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Power calling: Round 8 review (Sunday)

Round 8 review (Sunday)

Port’s Warren Tredrea was the star of the weekend with a mobile game that will get coaches talking.

AFL Rd 7 - Port Adelaide v KangaroosThe game at Footy Park was arguably the best of the round, with rain not dampening the attacking play from both sides. Tredrea got away early on Kelvin Moore and it was only when Joel Bowden was shifted onto him that Tredders slowed down. Down the other end, Robin Nahas had three goals at quarter time to keep the Tigers in the game. The two least accountable, most overpossessing teams in the AFL were treating the greasy conditions with contempt and delivering some pretty good fantasy scores.

A couple of players outperformed expectations, with Mark Coughlan scoring at an elite level in Dream Team if not Super Coach with 57% efficiency from his 28 disposals, while Travis Boak had a similar ratio with 60% efficiency from his 25 possessions including five clangers.

Andrew Raines was a disappointment to those coaches who had held onto him for all this time, having to play a defensive role on Brett Ebert who carved him up by running up the ground and racking up score assists. Similarly, Nathan Krakouer stamped his departure papers for thousands of fantasy teams with a por return of only 12 possessions, leaving his breakevens at unsustainable levels.

Kane Cornes pulled a Richo by delivering a terrible score and getting reinjured, though the knock to his shoulder wasn’;t as bad as Richo’s hammy tear. He spent much of the game getting cold standing next to Brett Deledio on a half forward flank. His owners have a big dilemma this week.

At the G, the game went much the same way as last week’s Collingwood match, with the Pies breaking even in the midfield with inside 50s, but their forward line being so completely useless that they could barely muster any kind of score by half time. At the other end, Bret Ratten told Brendan Fevola to take Simon Prestigiacomo up the ground and leave Jarrad Waite one on one with Nick Maxwell in the goal square, which worked a treat. The same structure with differing opponents persisted for the rest of the game, leaving Fev goal-less but enjoying himself by high fiving team mates after their goals.

Bryce Gibbs beat Dane Swan, while Chris Judd shaded his battle with Scott Pendlebury – maintaining the trend of coaches deciding to try to exploit Judd on the counter-attack instead of tagging him.

Over at Docklands, St Kilda got the jump but after quarter time Essendon remembered how they played against Hawthorn and held their own for the rest of the match, without ever really threatening to hit the lead. As happened in a number of games this weekend, a head to head match up produced high fantasy scores from both players, in this case being Lenny Hayes versus Jobe Watson. Watson had more touches (39 to 33) but also had more clangers (6 to 2) and trailed badly in efficiency (62% to 82%), which tells you why Hayes got the accolades.

Nick Dal Santo and Brent Stanton suffered under their tags, from Heath Hocking and Clinton Jones respectively. The Saint half backs weren’t as productive due to the huge amount of pressure both forward lines were putting on, though this same dynamic led the Bomber defence to overpossess so players like Tayte Pears and Henry Slattery got big numbers.

Finally, Patrick Ryder owners must be concerned by images late in the game of the kid getting his hamstrings worked over on the boundary line. Ryder got very few rotations with Tom Bellchambers in his battle against the twin towers of Steven King and Michael Gardiner, and it is worrying that Matthew Knights might be working the boy into the ground.

109 Comments

109 Comments

  1. Disco (UK)

    May 18, 2009 at 7:19 pm

    Wow, Fevola playing a team role, that would be a first!

  2. jb

    May 18, 2009 at 7:43 pm

    A first yes, good for fantasy, NO.
    He’s a risky enough player as it is without burdening him with being a ‘team’ player. sheesh bring back the selfish Fev!

  3. Joel

    May 18, 2009 at 9:28 pm

    Good read, keep it up Monty

  4. John

    May 18, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    Does anyone else think this photo of Tredrea makes him look like Will Ferrell?

  5. PIESBOY

    May 18, 2009 at 11:06 pm

    If anyone wants a laugh, go back and read m0nty’s bets of the week. I really hope you didn’t put your money where your mouth is. Stick to the fantasy based write-ups I reckon m0nty

    FYI – by far and away, the bet of the week this week was Hawthorn @$1.95 – money for jam that was

  6. Mr Sherminator

    May 18, 2009 at 11:32 pm

    I killed ’em! Buy me quick, trade me out in 2 weeks.

    Mr poobags is right, def spudrenko to grimes.

    Poogags, have you got a great haircut? You deserve one, I can help with an A1 Greek chopper.

    Grimes goes there, so should you – you know it makes sense!

  7. W Tredrea

    May 18, 2009 at 11:34 pm

    m0nty,

    you owe me for that phone call. Great picture of me but,

  8. Jose O(liver) Shea

    May 19, 2009 at 12:12 am

    well done monty, keep up the good work.

    just interested to put it to the floor…who would people offload for steele sidebottom, from the following players based on their ability to make more money, make a nice profit already, play more games, or depreciate etc.

    mitch brown
    dayne beams
    dava zaharakis
    jeff garlett
    jack ziebell
    dan rich
    ??????

  9. jb

    May 19, 2009 at 12:16 am

    yeah just like backing Carlton the week before was money for jam too eh.

  10. PIESBOY

    May 19, 2009 at 1:02 am

    haha JB – I have no idea how you know that…..what about Carlton to beat Richmond round 1 – that was a pretty solid collect (in hindsight its hard to believe how fancied Richmond were in the lead up to the season).

    I really should have my own segment on here for bets of the week

  11. NOTAPIESBOY

    May 19, 2009 at 1:32 am

    @PIESBOY
    You could easily do a better job than the w**nkers who are tellin m0nty what to post.

  12. Andy

    May 19, 2009 at 11:40 am

    Tredrea is easily one of the best forwards in the comp at the moment, (step aside Buddy Franklin). treddas is free from the power’s captain curse and is gettin back to top form

  13. Andy

    May 19, 2009 at 11:54 am

    that phone call treddas is makin is to monty payin him out bout his top 3 finish for the tigers bahahaha

  14. Heated

    May 19, 2009 at 11:56 am

    he would definetely be up there with some of the greatest centre half forwards of all time, no doubt, he has proven himself over his long career. and that he still does it now shows what kind of a character he really is. i think over the past couple of injury riddled years people have forgotten how dominant this guy can be, and im a crows supporter!

  15. Heated

    May 19, 2009 at 12:00 pm

    haha tigers top 3, more like top 1 ranking in coaches sacked this year

  16. Frank

    May 19, 2009 at 12:30 pm

    Hill to Grimes will be a popular trade this week and its a nice reward to those who have held onto him. @ChuckNorris – who wouldnt you want to bank 179k when Grimes can score into the 70’s and 80’s consistently like Hill hasn’t done. You can get Broughton as well (i already have him) if you are concerned about scoring – after all these guys will be your 7th and 8th backs. Hill is worth too much to be nestled in that position anyway – so upgrade the skinny turd!

    179k plus the 79k in the bank i already have will allow me to upgrade Ziebell to Pavlich – giving me a forward line of Chappy, Lids, StevieJ, Pavlova, Higgins, Krak & Steele with Tex and M. Brown on the pine. That should get me back inside the top 500!!

  17. Chuck Norris

    May 19, 2009 at 12:30 pm

    Treds got them to a GF – not many forwards going around right now apart from JB can say that

  18. Masterchef (respect your ingredients) Guy

    May 19, 2009 at 1:02 pm

    Here’s my question yeah?

    Trade for sidebottom or mcGlynn, yeah?

    sidey is cheaper and could make great cash, yeah, but might lose his spot pretty quick when other pies get uninjured, yeah?

    mcglynn is scoring like a keeper and is on the bubble, yeah, and will be a great buy if he can maintain it, yeah? But, yeah, will he be able to, yeah?

    Got 12 trades left in DT… What do you think yeah?

  19. Chuck Norris

    May 19, 2009 at 2:13 pm

    @Masterchef – cannot see Sidey getting pushed before Corrie, Beams or Reid. And Leigh Browns AFL career would surely be virtually over.

    So there’s 4 spots.

    Wood will step aside for Fraser. Sure Didak and the underwhelming Travis Cloake will get the nod as soon as they’re right (now down to two spots), but Thomas and Rocca mmm. I guess Rocca will displace L Brown, but that leaves Corrie and Beams struggling. And Malthouse has a big purple one for Sidey. I reckon Corrie or Beams will be the fall guys. But there’s always injury’s a concern.

    And about Medhurst, as far as I’m concerned -he’s a spent force. He will be there to replace an injured Didak, Sidey or Davis. A bit of a shame because he was sensational last year, but with Collingwood languishing and a real upside to putting the kids forward – this is where I see where he’s at. If the Pies were 5 – 3 right now, he’d be a lock every game. But they’re not.

    And Daisy is just a tease – a total showpony. He’s needs to look at Montagna – how a total punce can get 35 touches and replicate that.

  20. Chuck Norris

    May 19, 2009 at 2:32 pm

    @Frank – I reckon Hill will be back to high double figures (SC) or maybe even break the ton this week. My side North doesn’t really have a good match up to him. Dont forget he’s scored 341 pts in the last 4 rounds. I didn’t watch the Friday night game, but the Hawks did a job on him and they will probably do the same job on Grimey this weekend. I would bet London to a brick that Grimes get’s outscored by Hill and then Grimes will play the saints the following weekend so Grimes aint no takeover target yet. Grimes will get a big test in the next fornight – and if he’s lineball with Hill, you’ve wasted a trade. If you had 18 trades left then do it, but if you’re like everyone else on 12 to 15, hold off and let the humanoids in your league trade their way into finals trouble. The seasons not even half over. 13 games to go if you go all the way – how valuable will 4 or 5 trades be in August???

  21. Sammy H

    May 19, 2009 at 2:39 pm

    Chuck Norris

    Not that I’m disrespecting the great man, but J Brown didn’t get them to one of those GFs. I’m pretty sure Lynch, Voss, Aker, Black and Leppitsch can take the credit for that.

    Just saying…

    And Frank, get rid of KrakWhore this week before he haemorrhages $$$ everywhere. He’s playing the graveyard with a BE of 138. He’s done.

  22. Chuck Norris

    May 19, 2009 at 2:43 pm

    Sammy H -good point and I’m left with the struggling Krak but just dont have the room – I’m in the top 4 of all my leagues so I might take a few losses to retain trades when I’ll need them between R14 and the finals

  23. Frank

    May 19, 2009 at 3:03 pm

    @Chuck Norris. the theory is to gain 179k by ridding of Hill and using Broughton and or Grimes as my 7th back for the rest of the season!

    I’m sure everyone would love to upgrade a struggling player such as Krak, Taylor Walker or Mitch Brown to ROK, Franklin or Jono Brown.

    Makes sense to me Chucky!

  24. Chuck Norris

    May 19, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    @Frank – whats a trade worth???

  25. tom

    May 19, 2009 at 4:19 pm

    who do u think will score better in the long run s hill or rains

  26. bigmac

    May 19, 2009 at 6:22 pm

    @ disco

    how is coughlan going ???

  27. Masterchef (respect your ingredients) Guy

    May 19, 2009 at 6:22 pm

    Thanks Chuck… not sure who’ll be pushed out when injuries abate for the pies yeah? But I wonder about Malthouse’s hard-on for sidey when he bought a gug like barham in before him… he was at least 3rd in line to get into the team yeah? Will he be first out? Having said that he played pretty well in his two games yeah?

    I just traded Daisy out cos he was giving me the shits, but he does have his own crap ad… can’t see him being out of the side too long yeah?

    So… others… Sidey or McGlynn…. yeah?

  28. Disco (UK)

    May 19, 2009 at 6:57 pm

    @bigmac –
    http://www.fanfooty.com.au/players/profile.php?firstname=Mark&surname=Coughlan

    @Chuck Norris – haha, nice call on Montagna/Thomas!

  29. Smit

    May 19, 2009 at 9:17 pm

    Cant believe somebody is considering keeping Garlett. Gone for the yr, replaced by Yarran, & may get dropped off main list and back to Rookie list.

    Anyone who keeps Hill is a dill…..

  30. Kenzie

    May 20, 2009 at 5:29 am

    I think this week its
    Krak > ROK
    Hill/Petrenko > grimes
    then next week
    Walker > Balntyne
    Hill/Petrenko > Fisher/Lockyer/Mackie
    then my squad is almost done.

  31. Fishy

    May 20, 2009 at 9:10 am

    What do people think of Newman? Approx 80 point average without much variation week in week out. Good value for $310k???

  32. Frank

    May 20, 2009 at 9:14 am

    @Chuck – for me – a trade is worth:

    Krak to Roo OR
    Mitch Brown to JB.

    ‘Nough said.

  33. Nick

    May 20, 2009 at 1:29 pm

    I’m considering keeping Mitch Brown on as a Darren Glass style dead end bench warmer, covering my forwards as opposed to trading him out for less than $100,000 to a new player with potentially less job security. He’s been looking like a pretty important key position player for the Eagles so far, I rate his job security. (Famous last words.)

    My trades this week are, as long as no bad news comes up, S. Hill to Giblee and N. Krakouer to S. Johnson, leaving $54,000 left over.

    I wonder though, would it be better to throw that money at Gilbee and look for a player priced around $392,500 or hold the extra cash and use it to suppliment my Mitch Robinson/Adam Cockie/ Ben Warren/ Nick Suban cash fund?

    My gut feeling is to spend more money in the midfield, moving that extra 50k onto D. Rich with my downgrade money and pick up a real premium instead of just a keeper for a rookie.

  34. turtle

    May 20, 2009 at 3:08 pm

    boys, all i hear you talk about is trades… has anyone thought of not trading this week, and roll with the punches… the loss u had in round 6, could win u a premiership in your league… everyone is panicking, and getting loose. grimes will break in a few weeks anyway. good luck.

  35. respect your ingerdients yeah!

    May 20, 2009 at 4:35 pm

    i need houlihan to play this week with milburn and bock out. Got a feeling than suban may be dropped also for headland this wk.

  36. Sam

    May 20, 2009 at 5:22 pm

    “Gary’s 100 per cent right” – AFL.com
    Starting to think Ablett over Cox as captain considering S.O.G will be under a roof and Cox might be in the rain.

    Anyway, I’m in a bit of a pickle..

    My forward line is Pavlich, Deledio, Franklin, Gian, Higgins, krak, Warren (M.Brown, Hogan) with 42k in the kitty.

    I’m doing Hill -> Grimes as trade 1.

    And either:
    1. Krakouer -> O’Keefe
    2. Krakouer -> Sidebottom
    3. M.Brown -> Sidebottom

    I’m currently leaning towards #1 but.. thoughts?

  37. Brendan Fevola

    May 20, 2009 at 5:41 pm

    I am a spud
    my price will go down with a Thud
    I get drunk like Elma Flood

  38. Charlie

    May 20, 2009 at 5:44 pm

    Sam – it really depends on the overall strategy.

    Think forward a few weeks and trades. Do you need cash? Then #2.

    #1. Is ROK really going to be a gun-keeper this year or are you just grabbing the best available for the sake of it…maybe. Will there be better players at decent prices later in the year? Probably.

    #3 just seems sideways for no real benefit. Brown looks a nice #9 prospect. Games and 50av.

  39. tom

    May 20, 2009 at 5:54 pm

    rains to grimes
    or hill to grimes?

  40. Sam

    May 20, 2009 at 5:57 pm

    Yeah thanks Charlie.

    I’ve got my eyes firmly fixed on Didak once he gets back and starts hitting some form. Riewoldt is a must so i will bring him in soon as well. Krakouer -> Sidebottom it is!

  41. Charlie

    May 20, 2009 at 5:58 pm

    Sam – just re-read your message. Your forward line is:

    Pavlich, Deledio, Franklin, Gian, Higgins, krak, Warren (M.Brown, Hogan).

    I’m not sure I would trade Krak. Ignore his short-term price fall for a moment…will he continue to get games? Probably.

    But adding Sidebottom to Warren and Hogan is really asking for donuts isn’t it? Along with M Brown, that’s too many rooks going into round 10.

    Again it comes back to the overall strategy, but I don’t really like the the idea of bringing Sidey into that fwd line, and I don’t really think ROK has the upside this year.

    Whatever you do, if the ONLY reason you end up trading is to avoid Krak’s short-term price fall, then don’t trade. Wait for his rolling average to rid the two bad scores, all going well he climbs back to $300,000, then maybe trade to Didak or someone…?

  42. dylan

    May 20, 2009 at 6:16 pm

    (Just posted on Bigfooty but would like to see what you guys think)
    I’m looking at getting Grimes in for Hill or Suban. Should i do this or not? got 13 trades left and 19k.

    Team looks like

    Backs: Fisher,Goddard, C.Cornes, Drummond, Adcock, Hill, Broughton EMG Cheney and Suban

    Mids:Gibbs,J.Selwood ,Kornes, S.Tuck,Rich,Otten EMG Danger and Robinson

    Rucks: Cox,Tippett EMG Spencer, Jacobs

    Forwards: S.Johnson, Deledio, N.Riewoldt, Pavlich, L.Davis,Higgins,Didak EMG M.Brown and Warren

    The ones with underlines are the 1s i plan to upgrade out of my starting 22.

    Would like to maybe get Cooney or Cross but Rich and Otten still have a bit more to make still.

    Not sure if i should be downgrading Brown to Sidebottom or maybe Danger to Davenport or sidebottom or continue to wait but Danger does not seem to be making any more money now and i could use the money next week if i was to downgrade Brown.

    I think my Rucks can wait because i dont really trust many rucks to upgrade Tippett to.

    Not much to downgrade in the backline and i don’t have much in the bank so i thought Grimes could be a keeper. Then Maybe downgrade 1 of my mids or backs then get mackie for suban/hill soon.

    What do you guys think?

  43. Disco (UK)

    May 20, 2009 at 6:57 pm

    @Nick – I’m with you on Brown.

    @Sam – I wouldn’t get Sideass, you don’t need another rookie.

  44. incog

    May 20, 2009 at 7:35 pm

    Krack could yet be an absolute gem as your number 7 forward depending on injuries.

    I note the volt is on the slide this week, has a b/e of 147 in sc, big ask, could drop another 30k after dropping 18k last week, you gonna trade him as well.

    Krack is healthy, playing, can score big, and if he finishes the year out with an average of 75 or so, not bad for a 200 odd k investment.

    Its round 9 is it not, not even half way there yet. Imagine your side picking up 3 long term injuries in the next 3 weeks..still wanna trade krack?

  45. incog

    May 20, 2009 at 7:40 pm

    some of you guys were moaning about donuts last week or the week before, and you want to trade a 200k(sc) player out cause his last 2 scores sucked, so what if he drops to 300k(sc)
    couple of decent games and he back up around 350k or so pretty quick. Who jumped off hill when he pulled 20 odd 4 or 5 weeks ago, they are rookies or 2nd year players, they will have shockers, thats just part of being a rookie guys..

  46. turtle

    May 20, 2009 at 9:07 pm

    why doesn’t anyone else bar me have JOEL BOWDEN. he’s the sort of guy who can win me DT matches, coz everyone’s backs are very similar. he was my 1st player picked this year – he’s had 2 shockers, but still average 100. i love him… JOEL BOWDEN 4 P.M.

  47. turtle

    May 20, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    oh joel, another mark/kick.. oh back to joel again.. hee hee.. hate it when wallace plays him up forward – he’s a loose checking, free-roaming defender terry u idiot, let him be free. wish his brother patrick as still there. now that was fun having both the boys.

  48. bluebaggas

    May 20, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    if you want more comments then just do one post not 4 monty

  49. Tim

    May 20, 2009 at 10:57 pm

    @ Turtle

    The reason many don’t have Bowden is because we understand the difference between Football and DT. Rather than side on a computer and watch DT scores update every 30 seconds, we go and watch an actual game. And we understand that 100 DT points might mean nothing in a game of real footy.

    And so we understand that Bowden is going to see a lot of Coburg time very, very soon.

  50. Masterchef (respect your ingredients) Guy

    May 20, 2009 at 10:58 pm

    Bowden might get axed again if the tigers start tanking… or “give up on the season and play the kids” depending on which you prefer… Still he’s doing the job, good onya for pickin him… (yeah)

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