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Title: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on March 25, 2014, 02:36:31 PM
Starting this thread so we can talk about each game, team selections, results etc.

Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on March 25, 2014, 02:45:42 PM
Carlton in 2 nights time.. Please Richmond just beat them  :'(

Going to be wet weather so for mine I say get Jacko, Kingy and Arnot in. Could name 10 players that dont deserve to play after last weekend
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on March 25, 2014, 02:47:18 PM
Good idea Quinny.
Can't wait until Thursday night, it's going to be a good game.
If Jacko is fit he must come in. We need a crumbling forward so Lloyd or King comes in too.
I hope McDonough keeps his place, I think he should.
I'd like to see Knights make his way in too, perhaps in place of Foley,
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on March 25, 2014, 02:48:02 PM
reckon McDonough holds his spot?

Also how safe if Griffiths spot in the team?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on March 25, 2014, 04:48:41 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on March 25, 2014, 02:48:02 PM
reckon McDonough holds his spot?

Also how safe if Griffiths spot in the team?
McDonough's will be performance based. We have guys to take his spot if he doesn't do too well.

Griff should be safe until Ivvy returns.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: nickstiges on March 25, 2014, 08:20:14 PM
Looking forward to Thursday night, I'll be at the Richmond end, the guy wearing the Richmond memorabilia easy to spot.

Really want to see Knights play at the G, big supporter of his, I think he would take the place of Foley or McDonough, played across wing/half-back in the VFL this week so adds even more versatility to his half-forward capabilities.
Also reckon Jackson and King will come in for Foley and Edwards or Petterd.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on March 25, 2014, 08:49:56 PM
Listening to Dimmas press conference it sounds to me like Jacko is more likely to play in the 2's for another week.
I expect King to come in for sure. I would bring Edwards in too. He played well against Carlton in the final last year.

Carlton will be without Judd, Carrazzo, Walker but it seems it doesnt matter what side they have in they always get up against us
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on March 26, 2014, 01:40:56 PM
Quote"We will see a change in the way we bring the ball in, the front six will pretty much stay the same with a mixture of Jack, Ty, Ben Griffiths will be down there, Chris Newman and those types ... but we'll try to get as many goals as we can through various amounts of sources," he said.

At selection, the Tigers are considering playing Daniel Jackson, but his limited pre-season makes it tough choice.

Recruit Matt Thomas will get either Marc Murphy or Bryce Gibbs, and Jackson, although naturally fit, wouldn't have the game legs to play either a run-with role, or as an out and out midfielder.

Forward Jake King another to be looked at, as will Aaron Edwards who kicked half a dozen goals in the VFL last week.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-coach-damien-hardwick-admits-slipping-to-02-would-put-tigers-on-back-foot/story-fni5f9jb-1226864395483
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on March 26, 2014, 01:47:36 PM
Good idea Quinny!

Would like to see Knights, Lloyd or King in for Petterd this week.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on March 26, 2014, 06:46:03 PM
McDonough dropped :'(

Rance also out, with Grimes & Kingy to come in.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: nickstiges on March 26, 2014, 06:47:18 PM
Foot injury for Rance, hope it's just a minor one.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: BigMac_93 on March 26, 2014, 07:01:56 PM
dissaponted to not see Knights get named again.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on March 26, 2014, 07:38:12 PM
Knights not getting a game sucks.

Az Edwards stiff after kicking six in the VFL.

Gutted that Donuts was dropped.

Good ins though, happy to see Grimesy and Push-Up in.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on March 27, 2014, 01:42:06 PM
Rance is a big out but I rate Grimes very highly and think he will get the job done on his match up.
Tiges by 20
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on March 27, 2014, 04:54:38 PM
Two big outs for the Blues, with Matthew Kreuzer and Matthew Watson out for tonight's clash.
Buckley and Rowe in.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/matthew-kreuzer-matthew-watson-late-withdrawals-for-carltons-match-against-richmond-20140327-zqnop.html

Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on March 27, 2014, 04:58:44 PM
Should work in our favour.

Gonna be interest to see Hammer up against his old side.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on March 27, 2014, 07:05:07 PM
Alright boys, I've copped the full force of Webster and Clurey being not named so can you help me out here... how good is Griffiths JS? Is there anyone coming back in that would push him out? What role is he playing atm?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on March 27, 2014, 07:13:44 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on March 27, 2014, 07:05:07 PM
Alright boys, I've copped the full force of Webster and Clurey being not named so can you help me out here... how good is Griffiths JS? Is there anyone coming back in that would push him out? What role is he playing atm?
His JS will probably only worsen when Ivvy returns. He can play the swing man role, and is also there to pinch hit.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: nickstiges on March 27, 2014, 07:21:22 PM
Was lining up to pick up member scarf when some of the players walked past, he's not on the injury list but Nathan Gordon was walking with a very heavy limp I'd say lower leg.
Would be surprised if he was selected in the next few weeks.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on March 27, 2014, 07:32:36 PM
Nippa.  :(
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on March 27, 2014, 11:31:06 PM
flowering hell they like making us nervous.

But stoked to notch up a win over the blues awww yeahh :D
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on March 28, 2014, 01:08:34 AM
Literally blew my lid when Menzel snapped that goal in the last quater to put them within a point. Punched my chair half a dozen times and went out of the ground for a cool off. Couldnt bare to watch us get run over from Carlton AGAIN!
Came back in with a minute to go just in time to see Dusty kick the sealer! Such relief. What is wrong with us though! The last 4 times we have played Carlton now we have led by over 30 points only to have them storm home. Im gonna die young if this keeps up
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on March 28, 2014, 10:18:37 AM
I said this to Toges in PM just after the game.

Quote from: NigeyS on March 27, 2014, 11:02:29 PM
I cried, punched a wall, flipped a table, almost necked myself, got on my knees and prayed... thought I was moments away from cardiac arrest.  :P

Don't do that to me again, Richmond.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on March 28, 2014, 10:23:48 AM
(http://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t31.0-8/q80/s720x720/1921044_10152307053698276_976044952_o.jpg)

:-*
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on March 28, 2014, 11:39:32 AM
^ 2 recruits of the year!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on March 28, 2014, 12:07:47 PM
Great win last night.
1-1 to start the season isn't to bad and hey it's a lot better than 0-2.
Like Quinny said, I really thought Carlton were gonna run over the top of us in the last, lucky they weren't kicking straight!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on March 28, 2014, 12:11:02 PM
1-1 now and with Bullies, Pies, Brissie in the next 3 you should be 4-1
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on March 28, 2014, 12:15:11 PM
What I liked is that we actually fought back and WON the game rather than them just running out of time like round 1 last year. Thats a sign of maturity. Still need to get rid of these momentum swings but it was nice to actually finish with the last 2 goals and show some fight rather than letting them run over the top of us.

On the way home from the game I was listening to SEN and someone made a great comparison that its the same thing Hawthorn have gone through with Geelong for years. Losing the un losable games after having a good lead. We have been in control against Carlton the last 4 times and for whatever reason Carlton know that if they keep pushing then doubt and panick will creep in to our game and they can over run us. Hopefully that got us over a bit of a mental demon against the Blues and we can just slaughter them when we have the chance from now on
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on March 28, 2014, 12:16:07 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on March 28, 2014, 12:11:02 PM
1-1 now and with Bullies, Pies, Brissie in the next 3 you should be 4-1

1 week at a time Rico ;)

We havent beaten the pies for yearsss though so would be nice to get one back on them
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on March 28, 2014, 12:17:43 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 28, 2014, 12:16:07 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on March 28, 2014, 12:11:02 PM
1-1 now and with Bullies, Pies, Brissie in the next 3 you should be 4-1

1 week at a time Rico ;)

We havent beaten the pies for yearsss though so would be nice to get one back on them
Haha. You will beat the Pies
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on March 28, 2014, 01:18:43 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on March 28, 2014, 12:17:43 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 28, 2014, 12:16:07 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on March 28, 2014, 12:11:02 PM
1-1 now and with Bullies, Pies, Brissie in the next 3 you should be 4-1

1 week at a time Rico ;)

We havent beaten the pies for yearsss though so would be nice to get one back on them
Haha. You will beat the Pies
We're no Freo, but considering how hapless they seemed against them, we should be able to run over the top of them.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Kellogscrunchynut on March 28, 2014, 03:22:34 PM
With our draw we'd be extremely unlucky to miss the 8.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on March 29, 2014, 12:08:01 PM
Richmond VFL team leading by 6 at Quarter Time. Jackson and Knights good early and McBean has kicked 2.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on March 29, 2014, 12:11:42 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on March 29, 2014, 12:08:01 PM
Richmond VFL team leading by 6 at Quarter Time. Jackson and Knights good early and McBean has kicked 2.
McBean!!!!
This isn't good news though, hopefully not serious.
@JRickard1991: Aaron Edwards off injured in VFL practice match. Couldn't run. Walked off with big limp. @superfooty
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on March 29, 2014, 12:16:44 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on March 29, 2014, 12:11:42 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on March 29, 2014, 12:08:01 PM
Richmond VFL team leading by 6 at Quarter Time. Jackson and Knights good early and McBean has kicked 2.
McBean!!!!
This isn't good news though, hopefully not serious.
@JRickard1991: Aaron Edwards off injured in VFL practice match. Couldn't run. Walked off with big limp. @superfooty
Everybody thought he was all set to play for us Round 2, instead plays VFL and gets injured.

::) :(

Hopefully this helps the chances of somebody like McBean/Knighta get a game.

Honestly though, I'm thinking we might go in almost unchanged.

Jacko will probs come in and the expense of Foley.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on March 29, 2014, 01:39:49 PM
That's 3 Quarter Time and the VFL Tigers now lead by 16. McBean has 3 and O'Hanlon has 2 while Sam Lloyd and Dan Jackson are getting involved. Take it home boys!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on March 30, 2014, 11:54:39 AM
So what do we think is the deal with Dusty fellas? Will he get off or will he get weeks?

Not conclusive footage that he even made contact, but didn't look like there was much in it even if it did connect. But if we assume he made contact, then the MRP would probably deem the hit as:

1. Reckless (2)
2. High contact (2)
3. Low impact (1)

Meaning Dusty gets 5 activation points and a two week suspension down to one with an early plea I'm pretty sure. :(

Any other redeeming factors in the situation?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on March 30, 2014, 11:56:59 AM
Unfortunately, I can't seem him getting off from this.

He'll have a one week holiday.  :(
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Kellogscrunchynut on March 30, 2014, 12:42:04 PM
How did that VFL match finish up?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on March 30, 2014, 12:44:45 PM
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on March 30, 2014, 12:42:04 PM
How did that VFL match finish up?
Thought I copied and pasted the result, my bad.




SIREN! The Richmond VFL team wins its FIRST match in a THRILLER by 2 points over Essendon. McBean starred with 4 goals.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on March 30, 2014, 10:36:57 PM
Quote from: Toga on March 30, 2014, 11:54:39 AM
So what do we think is the deal with Dusty fellas? Will he get off or will he get weeks?

Not conclusive footage that he even made contact, but didn't look like there was much in it even if it did connect. But if we assume he made contact, then the MRP would probably deem the hit as:

1. Reckless (2)
2. High contact (2)
3. Low impact (1)

Meaning Dusty gets 5 activation points and a two week suspension down to one with an early plea I'm pretty sure. :(

Any other redeeming factors in the situation?

Only hope is that the footage isnt enough and it could be classed as not enough force to warrant sanction. White didnt even flinch at it so it cant have been that bad
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ringo on March 31, 2014, 10:45:20 AM
White wasn't a wuss like Mitchell so as you say that may save him if footage is inclusive.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on March 31, 2014, 05:38:04 PM
DUSTY FREE TO PLAY!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on March 31, 2014, 05:40:59 PM
Yay Dusty! :-*
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on March 31, 2014, 05:48:43 PM
Quote from: Ringo on March 31, 2014, 10:45:20 AM
White wasn't a wuss like Mitchell so as you say that may save him if footage is inclusive.

LET. IT GO. MAAATE ::) ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on March 31, 2014, 06:09:36 PM
I don't want to act cocky, but I think we'll win quite comfortably on Saturday.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on March 31, 2014, 06:10:31 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on March 31, 2014, 06:09:36 PM
I don't want to act cocky, but I think we'll win quite comfortably on Saturday.
We have to win quite comfortably.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on March 31, 2014, 06:12:34 PM
We definitely should win I think, really hoping we do.

The Dogs had a tough turnaround last week after their game in the west, and looked really sore & tired yesterday because of it... We have a 9 day turnaround for this game as opposed to their 5 day turnaround so that definitely plays in our favour a well.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on March 31, 2014, 06:14:04 PM
Quote from: Toga on March 31, 2014, 06:12:34 PM
We definitely should win I think, really hoping we do.

The Dogs had a tough turnaround last week after their game in the west, and looked really sore & tired yesterday because of it... We have a 9 day turnaround for this game as opposed to their 5 day turnaround so that definitely plays in our favour a well.

wtf, thats a bit of a joke.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on March 31, 2014, 06:15:26 PM
Yeah I know mate it's pretty stupid isn't it... I mean we'll take everything we get but you'd think they would plan the draw around the traditional Richmond/Carlton Thursday nighter a bit better in the name of fairness..
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on March 31, 2014, 06:21:07 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on March 31, 2014, 06:10:31 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on March 31, 2014, 06:09:36 PM
I don't want to act cocky, but I think we'll win quite comfortably on Saturday.
We have to win quite comfortably.
We should.
I feel confident as Toga said, we have a 9 day turn around compared to the Bulldogs' 5.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on March 31, 2014, 06:21:47 PM
Two close matches to start the season wasn't great.

We lost the first and almost lost the next, winning this and winning it comfortably is the only option. If we don't win convincingly, the critics will be out in full force.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on March 31, 2014, 06:23:49 PM
Quote from: Toga on March 31, 2014, 06:15:26 PM
Yeah I know mate it's pretty stupid isn't it... I mean we'll take everything we get but you'd think they would plan the draw around the traditional Richmond/Carlton Thursday nighter a bit better in the name of fairness..

Yeah exactly. I dont think it would change the result but as you say, in the interest of being fair, thats pretty piss-poor!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Kellogscrunchynut on April 01, 2014, 11:07:46 AM
Can anyone tell me what Push Up's fine was for?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: BigMac_93 on April 01, 2014, 01:50:05 PM
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on April 01, 2014, 11:07:46 AM
Can anyone tell me what Push Up's fine was for?

The contact he made with Waite was viewed as "unnecessary" by the MRP.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on April 01, 2014, 01:52:33 PM
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on April 01, 2014, 11:07:46 AM
Can anyone tell me what Push Up's fine was for?

For a feather tap kick to Waits chest that Wait tried to make out like was a shot to the face  ::)

Glad they took action against Wait though, cant have that crap in our game
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Kellogscrunchynut on April 01, 2014, 05:09:05 PM
Should change your pic to Waite Quinny, keeping the caption of course.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on April 02, 2014, 12:03:08 AM
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on April 01, 2014, 05:09:05 PM
Should change your pic to Waite Quinny, keeping the caption of course.

haha true that :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on April 03, 2014, 01:52:32 PM
Cotch and Lids are both in doubt this week, due to soreness.
I reckon they'll play though, we've had a 9 day break.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on April 03, 2014, 01:59:37 PM
Wow, could see you possibly resting one of them against the Doggies but both would be a little extreme! Especially considering the Dogs greatest strength is there contested ball winning midfield.

If Cotch got rested I would probs cry though. Last thing I need atm.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 03, 2014, 02:06:19 PM
Resting them due to 'soreness' even though we've had a 9 day break sounds very strange and rather complacent.

I don't like the sound of that all.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on April 03, 2014, 02:06:56 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 03, 2014, 01:59:37 PM
Wow, could see you possibly resting one of them against the Doggies but both would be a little extreme! Especially considering the Dogs greatest strength is there contested ball winning midfield.

If Cotch got rested I would probs cry though. Last thing I need atm.
Lids more likely to get rested, I think Cotch will play.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/brett-deledio-in-doubt-for-bulldogs-clash-20140403-zqq6g.html
Nothing about Cotch there, but heard on Twitter he's sore.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on April 03, 2014, 02:10:35 PM
Haha I don't want to create any hate in here but I'd be saying toughen the flower up. You're an AFL footballer after all :P

#pleaserestLids
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 03, 2014, 02:52:38 PM
We'll take Cotchy in to the weekend, don't think we can be complacent enough to rest both at this stage of the season being 1-1.

Hope Lids gets up though, don't want him to miss a game and ruin his most current consecutive games title! :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on April 03, 2014, 05:05:47 PM
Cotch looks good to go
Ben Guthrie ‏@AFL_BenGuthrie  43m
@Tigermatt123 @JROO8 @Richmond_FC Can't see Cotchin missing guys. Trained strongly today. Did not miss a beat.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on April 03, 2014, 05:08:15 PM
http://www.triplem.com.au/melbourne/sport/afl/news/2014/4/brett-deledio-has-all-but-ruled-himself-out-of-richmond-tigers-match-against-the-western-bulldogs/

Brett Deledio has exclusiely told Triple M's Rush Hour that he doesn't expect to line up for Richmond against the Bulldogs on the weekend.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 03, 2014, 05:16:40 PM
Lids, y u do dis?  :(
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 03, 2014, 05:17:33 PM
Lidsyyyy :(
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on April 03, 2014, 06:21:57 PM
He's lucky I traded him outta my AF side after round 1 :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 03, 2014, 06:51:51 PM
NIPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPAAAAAAAAA!  8)

Hammer.  :'(
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 03, 2014, 06:56:54 PM
Ok I'm not feeling so confident now that both Hampson and Deledio are out... Hopefully O-Steph & Griff can compete well enough with Big Wilbur but makes me a bit nervous.

Stoked to see Nip Gordon get his first run in the ones though 8)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 03, 2014, 07:01:51 PM
Orren's fairly capable, but taking on Wilbur could be tough.

Hopefully our mids just get to the bottom of Minson's taps before his own teammates do.

Or alternatively, get Tank in there to tackle 'em straight away.  ;D
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on April 03, 2014, 07:14:04 PM
I'm guessing this is good news for Griff owners :D
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 04, 2014, 12:55:10 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on April 03, 2014, 07:14:04 PM
I'm guessing this is good news for Griff owners :D

Conversely, Jackson back in the side probably isn't the best news for Griff owners... Expect a run with role!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 04, 2014, 09:50:09 AM
Quote from: Toga on April 04, 2014, 12:55:10 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on April 03, 2014, 07:14:04 PM
I'm guessing this is good news for Griff owners :D

Conversely, Jackson back in the side probably isn't the best news for Griff owners... Expect a run with role!
I thought he was talking about our Griff.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 04, 2014, 11:47:15 AM
Ooooohh that would also make sense - yes, it does mean good news for that Griff! :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on April 04, 2014, 11:47:45 AM
Lol was wondering what you were on about mate
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 04, 2014, 11:49:39 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on April 04, 2014, 11:47:45 AM
Lol was wondering what you were on about mate

Iirc a lot of people seemed to think that a weak ruck division vs the Bulldogs would mean that Minson would be dominant = hit outs to advantage of Griffen = Griffen goes well haha so that's the first thing that jumped to my head :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on April 04, 2014, 12:20:51 PM
Haha fair enough. That does remind me though... Need to look at Minson for most SC points in his group
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on April 05, 2014, 02:23:37 PM
What's the chance of McDonough coming back into the side in the next couple weeks?

Should I just ditch him in SC.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 05, 2014, 02:52:19 PM
We have a huge problem.

Our forward line.

We need the old Jack back.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 05, 2014, 03:18:35 PM
Said this in the other thread, but we need more than 3 kicks and 0 marks from Vickery and Jroo as our key forwards...
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on April 05, 2014, 03:48:50 PM
How's Miles been going in the VFL guys?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 05, 2014, 03:50:10 PM
If we lose this, Dimma won't be our coach next year.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Kellogscrunchynut on April 05, 2014, 04:14:57 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on April 05, 2014, 03:50:10 PM
If we lose this, Dimma won't be our coach next year.
Doubt that, It' an uphill battle from the start with Stephenson vs Minson.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 05, 2014, 04:17:39 PM
Hopefully Dimma names some guys like he did after Round 1.

Jake King and Tyrone Vickery need a week in the twos.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Kellogscrunchynut on April 05, 2014, 04:20:23 PM
Tyrone looks like he's going to be a headache for the rest of the year, I reckon Riewoldt needs to gain 5kgs.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 05, 2014, 04:46:27 PM
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on April 05, 2014, 04:20:23 PM
Tyrone looks like he's going to be a headache for the rest of the year, I reckon Riewoldt needs to gain 5kgs.

Yeah Riewoldt looks like he needs that extra weight that he lost, still seems to be playing the same role as he was last year :-\

On another note I thought Nippa Gordon was really really impressive today and he should become a regular for us.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 05, 2014, 04:47:16 PM
But come on Ellis, that last contest was atrocious.. :'(
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on April 05, 2014, 04:48:53 PM
It's flash Gordan not Nippa  8)

So nobody knows how Miles is going ?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Kellogscrunchynut on April 05, 2014, 04:49:08 PM
Ellis seems to be having 3rd year blues, Vickery seems to be having every year blues.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 05, 2014, 04:51:09 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on April 05, 2014, 04:48:53 PM
It's flash Gordan not Nippa  8)

So nobody knows how Miles is going ?

Nah it's Nippa don't listen to everything the retard commentators like to tell you.

I haven't heard anything about Miles yet but he is still on the rookie list so won't be playing seniors until he's upgraded whenever that may be.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 05, 2014, 04:55:47 PM
Vickery can play the rest of the year out in the VFL team.

Liam McBean to come in and win the Coleman.  :)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: BigMac_93 on April 05, 2014, 04:57:46 PM
Fair result today, the boys just were not hungry enough. Dogs wanted it more. Can't expect to win when you don't turn up to play until 3/4 time. Atleast it was good to see Jack stand up when we needed him to so the media can get off his back. Flash Gordon looked good aswell.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 05, 2014, 05:49:50 PM
Pies next week on a Friday night... going to be a massive game for both clubs.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on April 05, 2014, 09:07:16 PM
Quote from: Toga on April 05, 2014, 04:51:09 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on April 05, 2014, 04:48:53 PM
It's flash Gordan not Nippa  8)

So nobody knows how Miles is going ?

Nah it's Nippa don't listen to everything the retard commentators like to tell you.

I haven't heard anything about Miles yet but he is still on the rookie list so won't be playing seniors until he's upgraded whenever that may be.

Yeah I was was curious have him in BXV
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on April 06, 2014, 10:32:36 AM
Seriously guys wtf happened yesterday? Cost me my multi lol
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 06, 2014, 10:36:36 AM
Wouldn't have a clue Rico, the team just wasn't clicking... Forwards were pretty average in the first half which I think was the difference. :(

Thinking Sam Lloyd could be in for a debut soon, we need some extra spark in the forward line.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 06, 2014, 10:37:13 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on April 06, 2014, 10:32:36 AM
Seriously guys wtf happened yesterday? Cost me my multi lol
Jack showed up at half time and Tyrone didn't show up at all. Push-Up seemingly got injured and Nip Gordon started sub.

Basically, no forward line and Cotch was the only player out there for us. Actually think Lids was sorely missed. Loves playing the Dogs, would have reflected in our game had he played. Not an excuse though, we should be able to function without him.

Hammer was also missed imo, has been great so far. Hopefully that knee is nothing too serious. I actually wanna see him and Ivvy play together, I reckon it could work really well.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 06, 2014, 10:38:47 AM
Quote from: Toga on April 06, 2014, 10:36:36 AM
Wouldn't have a clue Rico, the team just wasn't clicking... Forwards were pretty average in the first half which I think was the difference. :(

Thinking Sam Lloyd could be in for a debut soon, we need some extra spark in the forward line.
Yeah, Sammy can't be far off from a debut... and Ben Lennon might even get a run soon.

Chris Knights will almost certainly add something, he's been good in the games he's played for us to date.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 06, 2014, 10:42:52 AM
Yeah the forward line has just looked a bit flat so far.

I'm loving what Benny Griffiths has done so far, but Jack needs to show up for full games and not just give up like he seemed to do in the first half, while Tyrone just needs a bit of consistency. I don't think Titch Edwards and Jake King (I know he was injured) have been their usual exciting selves so far either so we need someone dangerous around goals so yeah wouldn't mind a few changes there... As you say Knightsy & Lloyd could well be those X-factor players we've needed, and Benny Lennon might not be too far off getting a run as you say. Aaron Edwards might have even been looking at a run in the next few weeks if he wasn't injured as well. :(
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 06, 2014, 10:49:23 AM
I think Griffo might keep his place even when Ivvy returns. He can play both ends and does so fairly well.

Jack seemed genuinely disappointed in his performance when the SNF team had a chat with him before the Pies/Cats last night.

Finger crossed he has a big game next week.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on April 06, 2014, 12:03:55 PM
Fair enough. Did McDonough play 2s? Anyone here how he went
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 06, 2014, 12:26:57 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on April 06, 2014, 12:03:55 PM
Fair enough. Did McDonough play 2s? Anyone here how he went

The VFL side got torn a new one by Footscray on yesterday by 100+ by the sounds of it... Not sure if he played as there was no mention of him in the match report I read, but he was listed as an emergency for yesterday so he might've had the weekend off. He'll be on the brink of a return IMO, there will be some changes to our lineup this week I daresay.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 06, 2014, 12:30:11 PM
The same 22 won't go in to next week's game against Collingwood, that's a given.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on April 06, 2014, 12:47:27 PM
Quote from: Toga on April 06, 2014, 12:26:57 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on April 06, 2014, 12:03:55 PM
Fair enough. Did McDonough play 2s? Anyone here how he went

The VFL side got torn a new one by Footscray on yesterday by 100+ by the sounds of it... Not sure if he played as there was no mention of him in the match report I read, but he was listed as an emergency for yesterday so he might've had the weekend off. He'll be on the brink of a return IMO, there will be some changes to our lineup this week I daresay.
Ok cheers man. 100+ is an ugly day :o
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 06, 2014, 12:54:20 PM
I actually thought our VFL side was looking pretty good going into the season, but they've had a rough start.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/footscray-returns-to-vfl-as-victor-over-richmond-20140405-zqr90.html

Batsanis, Miles and Ross Young were good. Helbig and Elton did okay too. Foley, Batch and Darrou didn't have good games either.

Undermanned and undersized in defence, outrun in the mids and forwards as bad, if not worse than the senior side.  :-\

Not a pretty start losing by 117 points.  :-X
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on April 07, 2014, 12:01:26 AM
Bring McDonough back pls, he's rotting on me SC bench :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on April 07, 2014, 02:40:33 AM
Needs to be changes made this week.

King is not fit and should not be finding his fitness and form in the senior team. Thats poor from the coaches and selection comitee. He was well off the pace last week against Carlton and couldnt keep up with the game and it hurt us and now it has hurt us for a second week in a row, this time in a close loss where having someone that could run could have been the difference in the game.

The forward line needs a shake up. I dont care what Hardwick says, Riewoldt is one of the best full forwards in the league and should play out of the goal square every quater of every week. Piss Vickery off out of the way and get the ball in quickly to Jack. Wasnt rocket science that we got back into the game when we started winning the ball out of the middle quickly and banging it into him.

Our tackling obviously wasnt adressed in the off season. We were 18th in tackles last season and are down near the bottom again this year. The bulldogs tackled really well. We couldnt break the tackles and they forced lock in ball ups and turn overs. We decided we would tackle well in the last quater when we had a sniff at winning. Theres no excuse for some things. Poor tackling is one of them.

Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 07, 2014, 09:56:45 AM
Tank's a revelation in that department. He's a tackle machine.

Matt Arnot would rack them up if he was in the side, similar playing to Tank.

Some of our guys don't even look like they know how to tackle though...
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 07, 2014, 01:21:04 PM
Happy Birthday to our superstar skipper - Trent Cotchin!  8)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 07, 2014, 02:35:31 PM
HB Cotchy!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on April 07, 2014, 02:49:51 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on April 07, 2014, 09:56:45 AM
Tank's a revelation in that department. He's a tackle machine.

Matt Arnot would rack them up if he was in the side, similar playing to Tank.

Some of our guys don't even look like they know how to tackle though...

Yeah the problem is we cant just play in and under players that will tackle, we need our class players to pull their fingers out and lay some decent tackles.

Watching the Essendon Carlton game last night and I noticed that the game was very similair to ours. Carlton came at Essendon in the 3rd quater. They started to take risks and run and you could feel the game beggining to swing. The reason Essendon were able to stop it is that they layed some great tackles when Carlton looked like breaking the lines. They didnt allow them to get momentum. When teams get a run on against us we are powerless to stop it because teams are running hard, taking risks with run and carry and you literally watch them brush through our tackles or get hanballs away from our half arsed tackles.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: TeeJay on April 07, 2014, 02:56:45 PM
Hardwick doesnt seem to rate tackling stats. He was asked about it numerous times last year and always made light of it. Dont know how he can be so contested ball orientated yet not rate tackling numbers. Richmond only lost the count by about 5 but it was clear to me which team was making tackles stick
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on April 07, 2014, 03:27:57 PM
Yeah, I don't the tackling stats are of huge concern.
We're a high possession team, so if we have the ball we can't tackle the opposition.  ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on April 07, 2014, 06:13:39 PM
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-04-07/two-more-for-maric

Richmond ruckman Ivan Maric will remain a Tiger until at least the end of the 2016 season after signing a two-year contract extension with the Club.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 07, 2014, 06:14:32 PM
We love you Ivvy.  :-*
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 07, 2014, 06:39:39 PM
Great news, love ya Ivvy. Looking forwards to having him back on the park and see how the talls are organised when all are fit!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on April 07, 2014, 08:10:31 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on April 07, 2014, 06:14:32 PM
We love you Ivvy.  :-*
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on April 07, 2014, 08:22:49 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 07, 2014, 12:01:26 AM
Bring McDonough back pls, he's rotting on me SC bench :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on April 07, 2014, 10:44:01 PM
I thought this was the part where someone gives me some sign of hope that he will play this week. :'(
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 07, 2014, 10:46:37 PM
Maybe. :P

King was obviously injured, expecting him to get a break. So either Gordon holds his spot, Sam Lloyd debuts, or McDonough is recalled... Not sure what it'll be yet, but I think Gordon should get another run after his performance on Saturday!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on April 08, 2014, 01:13:17 AM
Quote from: JROO8 on April 07, 2014, 03:27:57 PM
Yeah, I don't the tackling stats are of huge concern.
We're a high possession team, so if we have the ball we can't tackle the opposition.  ;)

Its not about numbers Jroo its about sticking a tackle and burying the player when you get the chance not letting them just slip through. Saw far to many broken tackles the past 2 weeks and its a major concern
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: T Dog on April 08, 2014, 12:03:38 PM
Any news on Vlas..is he ok?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on April 08, 2014, 12:29:50 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on April 08, 2014, 01:13:17 AM
Quote from: JROO8 on April 07, 2014, 03:27:57 PM
Yeah, I don't the tackling stats are of huge concern.
We're a high possession team, so if we have the ball we can't tackle the opposition.  ;)

Its not about numbers Jroo its about sticking a tackle and burying the player when you get the chance not letting them just slip through. Saw far to many broken tackles the past 2 weeks and its a major concern
Fair enough. That's where the inclusion of Thomas has helped, he's one of the hardest players in the comp.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on April 08, 2014, 01:06:28 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-04-08/in-the-mix-round-four

Vice-captain Brett Deledio will face a fitness test on his injured ankle, with the Tigers desperate to regain him for Friday night's clash against Collingwood. Ruckman Shaun Hampson (knee) and small forward Jake King (corked quad) will also need to prove their fitness ahead of the crucial match. Half-back Nick Vlastuin was substituted with concussion against the Western Bulldogs and will have six days to recover. Pushing up from the VFL team, Matt McDonough impressed in a half before heading to Etihad Stadium as the Tigers' emergency last Saturday. He appears first in line after an impressive pre-season with Nathan Foley and draftee Ben Lennon also on standby. -
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 08, 2014, 01:12:46 PM
No mention of Lloyd or Arnot, so we can probably put a line through their names.

Lids for Push-Up.
Orren for Hammer if he gets up.
Donuts unlucky to miss, unless Tigga doesn't get up.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 08, 2014, 03:10:03 PM
Good to hear McDonough is doing good things in the VFL and is in line for a recall. Dare I say it, might be a good downgrade target in a couple :P

I agree with those changes Nigey, Hampson in for Orren is pretty much a given, and with King looking sore on the weekend it's pretty likely that he could come straight out for Lids.

Who becomes the sub if those changes are made? Does Nippa Gordon keep the vest again or is there anyone else that might see some time as the sub?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 08, 2014, 03:16:51 PM
I'd like to see us give Nip a full game... maybe make Shaun Grigg the sub like we did once last year?

Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on April 09, 2014, 01:29:00 PM
Rohan CT ‏@RohanCT  18h
Achilles Tendonitis scans for Brett Deledio. #aflpiestigers

:-\
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on April 09, 2014, 01:37:29 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on April 09, 2014, 01:29:00 PM
Rohan CT ‏@RohanCT  18h
Achilles Tendonitis scans for Brett Deledio. #aflpiestigers

:-\
showertttt  :-[
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on April 09, 2014, 01:41:08 PM
 :-\ Hopefully it's not serious
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 09, 2014, 01:44:23 PM
Ah flower that's bad news :( Fingers crossed he's all ok
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 09, 2014, 03:01:51 PM
Oh flower. Please gawd no...  :(
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on April 09, 2014, 05:14:17 PM
QuoteAnd Deledio, who last week missed his first game in seven years with an ankle injury  ??? ???, says after six straight defeats since 2007 the Tigers had to get over the Magpies.

"I'm still a chance, I have just got to get through the last training session," Deledio said.  :)

"It is starting to feel good again. I am still 50-50 at this stage, but I definitely haven't ruled myself out.

"It's a huge game for us and I'd desperately love to play. We haven't beaten Collingwood for a while in the season proper, so hopefully we can this week.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-star-brett-deledio-says-its-time-richmond-started-beating-collingwood/story-fni5f9jb-1226879143580
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 09, 2014, 05:16:28 PM
I'm not hearing anything of this anywhere else so far... ???
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: nickstiges on April 09, 2014, 06:46:10 PM
Just a wait and see at the moment, won't know until tomorrow either way.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on April 09, 2014, 06:57:43 PM
Damn.
@AFL_JenPhelan: No Deledio, no Rance for Friday night v Pies. Have already been ruled out by @Richmond_FC. Lids has Achilles soreness, Rance foot problem.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on April 09, 2014, 06:58:36 PM
Wow thats huge. Had you boys locked in for a win but now I'm not too sure
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 09, 2014, 07:05:25 PM
Rance was never going to play I don't think, has been listed as 2-3 weeks iirc. But Lids is a big blow, I hope he's ok :(
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: nickstiges on April 09, 2014, 07:07:46 PM
So now they say he's out, good timing by me, bad for our chances on Friday.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on April 09, 2014, 07:25:40 PM
Quote from: Toga on April 09, 2014, 07:05:25 PM
Rance was never going to play I don't think, has been listed as 2-3 weeks iirc. But Lids is a big blow, I hope he's ok :(
Yeah I knew Rance was out, but I was hopeful Lids would get up  :(
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 09, 2014, 07:29:17 PM
The question is: who's going to stand up in Lids' absence?

Any number of guys could do it.

Dusty, Conca, Brandy, Tank, Jacko, Flossy? Somebody has to...


Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 09, 2014, 07:30:28 PM
Quote from: nickstiges on April 09, 2014, 07:07:46 PM
So now they say he's out, good timing by me, bad for our chances on Friday.

It's interesting how much difference one player as classy as Lids can make :(

Btw, since Rance is out, who gets Cloke? Last time we played Collingwood I remember Cloke absolutely smashed Rance, but I have a feeling Chaplin may also have been injured or something... Does Chaplin take Cloke? I personally wouldn't feel confident in Astbury standing Trav, and I don't think Grimes has the size.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 09, 2014, 07:31:14 PM
Also Lids not coming back into the team might see Nip get a full game I reckon, King will either be sub or (more likely) rested. Really hope Gordon gets a full game!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: nickstiges on April 09, 2014, 07:36:21 PM
I think Astbury has been pretty good so far this year but Cloke would be a tough ask, I'd say Chaplin has to assist if Astbury takes him. Grimes more likely to take a small forward than someone like Cloke.

Astbury - Cloke
Chaplin - White/Cloke
Grimes - Goldsack
Morris - Elliot/Kennedy
Houli - Blair/Sidebottom
Vlastuin/his replacement - resting mid

Maybe something like that?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 09, 2014, 07:38:24 PM
We've never missed Lids before, that's the problem.

He's like the one guy who has always played. There's never been a need to fill the void.

Last week, his absence threw a spanner in the works and we didn't cope.

I trust Dimma to be able to work around this though, the top teams can cover absences of key personnel (see: Hawthorn), so if we wanna be one of them, we have to as well.

Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 09, 2014, 07:42:56 PM
Quote from: nickstiges on April 09, 2014, 07:36:21 PM
I think Astbury has been pretty good so far this year but Cloke would be a tough ask, I'd say Chaplin has to assist if Astbury takes him. Grimes more likely to take a small forward than someone like Cloke.

Astbury - Cloke
Chaplin - White/Cloke
Grimes - Goldsack
Morris - Elliot/Kennedy
Houli - Blair/Sidebottom
Vlastuin/his replacement - resting mid

Maybe something like that?

Looks reasonable. Although I think Chappy has to take Cloke. Cloke is 196cm/108kg - a flowering huge human being. Astbury already gives up 10+kg on that I'm pretty sure, while Chappy is about the 100kg mark himself and about the same height so that matchup makes more sense to me personally. The rest of the matchups make sense though ;)

Nige I think it's gotta be a hard running midfielder that fills the void Lids leaves in the midfield so personally think it will be Brandon Ellis that needs to step up as he is more similar to Lids than the others - huge tank, elite disposal. If Nippa starts on the ground as well he is a great runner so could see some midfield rotations.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on April 09, 2014, 07:54:45 PM
Rance can take a break, Cloke sucks.

Let him run free and he will kick 0.8 and those will be his only 8 touches for the entire game.

You heard it here first.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on April 09, 2014, 07:59:35 PM
Astbury goes to Cloke, I reckon.
I think we'll miss Lids' run, which will be important. Wished we had Matty White back  :(
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: T Dog on April 09, 2014, 08:25:10 PM
Time to get Clokey back in by the looks... ;D
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 09, 2014, 08:26:52 PM
Quote from: Toga on April 09, 2014, 07:42:56 PM
Nige I think it's gotta be a hard running midfielder that fills the void Lids leaves in the midfield so personally think it will be Brandon Ellis that needs to step up as he is more similar to Lids than the others - huge tank, elite disposal. If Nippa starts on the ground as well he is a great runner so could see some midfield rotations.
Yeah, my pick's Brandon Ellis.

Hopefully he has a game worthy of 3 Brownlow votes.  ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on April 09, 2014, 09:00:57 PM
Quote from: Vinny on April 09, 2014, 07:54:45 PM
Rance can take a break, Cloke sucks.

Let him run free and he will kick 0.8 and those will be his only 8 touches for the entire game.

You heard it here first.

The hatred stays strong :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on April 09, 2014, 09:23:55 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 09, 2014, 09:00:57 PM
Quote from: Vinny on April 09, 2014, 07:54:45 PM
Rance can take a break, Cloke sucks.

Let him run free and he will kick 0.8 and those will be his only 8 touches for the entire game.

You heard it here first.

The hatred stays strong :P
Always. ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on April 09, 2014, 09:33:02 PM
Quote from: T Dog on April 09, 2014, 08:25:10 PM
Time to get Clokey back in by the looks... ;D
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: BigMac_93 on April 09, 2014, 11:05:23 PM
whoever plays on cloke must get assistance from someone else, possibly someone who plays as a loose man behind the ball. Last time when Cloke destroyed us it wasn't necessarily Rances fault, it was more the fact he kept getting caught one out due to the lack of support from teammates. That cannot happen again.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on April 10, 2014, 12:37:35 PM
Fantasy Freako ‏@FantasyFreako  14s
We may not see Brett Deledio for another 1-4 weeks with an Achilles injury according to @FOXSportsNews. #SuperCoach #AFLFantasy
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 10, 2014, 01:02:46 PM
Achilles injuries are always a few weeks on the sidelines, expected that.  :(
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: nickstiges on April 10, 2014, 07:22:43 PM
So Biscuits gets a go, Lloyd a debut and Hammer back in. Hope we have a real crack at them, time for an underdog win.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 10, 2014, 07:23:56 PM
Three awesome ins. So happy!  8)

Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on April 10, 2014, 07:45:59 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on April 10, 2014, 07:23:56 PM
Three awesome ins. So happy!  8)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 10, 2014, 08:21:58 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on April 10, 2014, 07:45:59 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on April 10, 2014, 07:23:56 PM
Three awesome ins. So happy!  8)

Very happy!

Thinking Arnot or Lloyd will be the sub (more likely to be Arnot IMO), which will be great if Gordon gets a full game. Really excited to see what he can bring to the table 8)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 10, 2014, 09:52:12 PM
Tank, Jacko, Arnot, Morris all in the one team.

Love it.  8)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 10, 2014, 09:53:40 PM
Hard nuts galore :P

Oh, and didn't mention it before... Flossy is up! 8)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 10, 2014, 09:55:00 PM
Quote from: Toga on April 10, 2014, 09:53:40 PM
Hard nuts galore :P

Oh, and didn't mention it before... Flossy is up! 8)
He's another.  :o

5 of them, what an outfit.  ;D
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on April 11, 2014, 01:43:12 PM
This team has definitely been picked for the weather which I like! Smart coaching. I hope it pisses down.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 11, 2014, 02:00:36 PM
Is it meant to be raining over that way quinny?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 11, 2014, 02:03:09 PM
Quote from: Toga on April 11, 2014, 02:00:36 PM
Is it meant to be raining over that way quinny?
Yeah, it's been wet and windy here.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: nickstiges on April 11, 2014, 04:07:25 PM
Only small chance of rain during the game though, ground would still be soaked although drainage is excellent at the MCG.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 11, 2014, 08:31:12 PM
I've seen enough to make this call.

We're so flowering lost without Lids.  :(
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 11, 2014, 09:10:22 PM
I hope Tyrone Vickery never plays another game on AFL football.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 11, 2014, 10:41:09 PM
Lloyd and Arnot were fantastic, hope they both retain their place.

Vickery needs to be dropped.

Nip only decent for a quarter.

We missed Lids waaaay too much.

I want Ivan back.

We rely on Cotch too much.

There are probably more things, but they're all negatives... and I'm not sure I want to talk about them.  :(
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: nickstiges on April 11, 2014, 10:46:35 PM
Well on the bright side Astbury held Cloke goalless & Lloyd, a debutant, was arguably our best player.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 11, 2014, 10:48:53 PM
Quote from: nickstiges on April 11, 2014, 10:46:35 PM
Well on the bright side Astbury held Cloke goalless & Lloyd, a debutant, was arguably our best player.
Yeah, happy with how Astbury played on Cloke.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ziplock on April 11, 2014, 11:31:10 PM
Quote from: nickstiges on April 11, 2014, 10:46:35 PM
Well on the bright side Astbury held Cloke goalless & Lloyd, a debutant, was arguably our best player.

on the downside, you guys got soundly beaten even with cloke held goaless, and a debutant was your best player? :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on April 11, 2014, 11:41:23 PM
has Sam Lloyd just ended The Push Ups career ?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 11, 2014, 11:45:05 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on April 11, 2014, 11:41:23 PM
has Sam Lloyd just ended The Push Ups career ?
I wouldn't say he's ended King's career, that's a bit extreme.

However, Lloyd was arguably our best player and should retain his place for next week vs the Lions at the very least.  8)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: nickstiges on April 11, 2014, 11:46:25 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on April 11, 2014, 11:31:10 PM
Quote from: nickstiges on April 11, 2014, 10:46:35 PM
Well on the bright side Astbury held Cloke goalless & Lloyd, a debutant, was arguably our best player.

on the downside, you guys got soundly beaten even with cloke held goaless, and a debutant was your best player? :P

Oh there'll be plenty of downside talked about for the next week on forums & media, might as well look at some silver lining.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 12, 2014, 01:36:22 AM
Christ almighty. :(

Well, at least Sammy Lloyd showed a lot tonight, think he's got a good future at the club. Much in Cotchin's hit?

Quote from: kilbluff1985 on April 11, 2014, 11:41:23 PM
has Sam Lloyd just ended The Push Ups career ?

He's definitely going to be putting strain on it. Called it all preseason (and earlier tonight) that Sam & Kingy are playing for the one spot, and a good performance might see King on the outer.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on April 12, 2014, 03:44:01 AM
The Last Time Richmond played Finals consecutive years in a row was 1974-75 (40 Years ago).

:o
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 12, 2014, 09:35:51 AM
Quote from: Toga on April 12, 2014, 01:36:22 AM
Much in Cotchin's hit?
I don't think there's much in it.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on April 12, 2014, 10:17:57 AM
Guys wtf? Had you boys as a top 3 side. What is going on?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on April 12, 2014, 10:31:24 AM
Astbury was solid but for reals, I could keep Cloke goalless atm :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on April 12, 2014, 10:33:32 AM
Quote from: elephants on April 12, 2014, 10:31:24 AM
Astbury was solid but for reals, I could keep Cloke goalless atm :P
See I told you all, worst player in the AFL.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ziplock on April 12, 2014, 10:54:37 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on April 12, 2014, 09:35:51 AM
Quote from: Toga on April 12, 2014, 01:36:22 AM
Much in Cotchin's hit?
I don't think there's much in it.

mmm, I could see him being cited for high, intentional and medium impact (because it was behind play and had the potential for injury, it wouldn't be graded as low impact). That'd be like 7 activation points/ a grade 4 offence or 425 points/ 4 matches (3 with an early plea). Ftr- if it was high, that is actually what he should be copping by  the tribunal grading system.

Which would  be brutal... I saw the footage last night, and I thought it was high- what'd you guys think? If it was body contact, it'd probably be only 1 match with an early plea.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: nickstiges on April 12, 2014, 10:56:12 AM
Not sure a body punch would be considered high.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ziplock on April 12, 2014, 11:32:31 AM
Quote from: nickstiges on April 12, 2014, 10:56:12 AM
Not sure a body punch would be considered high.

It looked like he bumped and punched him at the same time. Does anyone have footage?

Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Kellogscrunchynut on April 12, 2014, 01:27:56 PM
So, 2015?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 12, 2014, 01:30:23 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on April 12, 2014, 11:32:31 AM
Quote from: nickstiges on April 12, 2014, 10:56:12 AM
Not sure a body punch would be considered high.

It looked like he bumped and punched him at the same time. Does anyone have footage?

I don't know what footage you saw but there was no high contact at all.

I think it's a joke if Cotch gets anything for that, they hit each other at the same time, nothing in it.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on April 13, 2014, 10:24:56 AM
Here it is. Really not sure whether they'll go after him for that or not

(http://i58.tinypic.com/1z6f48z.png)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 13, 2014, 10:28:25 AM
They literally just showed it on Game Day.

The Game Day folk's (Campbell Brown... he'd know best haha :P) verdict was a reprimand for Cotch.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 13, 2014, 10:52:09 AM
The thing I can't understand.... Cotchin and Young ran into each other, it's not like they went after one another.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 13, 2014, 10:57:16 AM
Quote from: Toga on April 13, 2014, 10:52:09 AM
The thing I can't understand.... Cotchin and Young ran into each other, it's not like they went after one another.
Yep, exactly.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on April 13, 2014, 12:14:04 PM
Cotch was clearly pretty filthy, I don't think he should get anything but I have a horrible feeling the MRP will give him a week...
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on April 13, 2014, 12:22:42 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 13, 2014, 12:14:04 PM
Cotch was clearly pretty filthy, I don't think he should get anything but I have a horrible feeling the MRP will give him a week...
Clearly the MRP have money on Danger to win the Brownlow, but since he's started off poorly they are eliminating the competition so he wins by default. First Rocky, then Fyfe and now Cotchin ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 13, 2014, 12:25:11 PM
Quote from: Honey Badger on April 13, 2014, 12:22:42 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 13, 2014, 12:14:04 PM
Cotch was clearly pretty filthy, I don't think he should get anything but I have a horrible feeling the MRP will give him a week...
Clearly the MRP have money on Danger to win the Brownlow, but since he's started off poorly they are eliminating the competition so he wins by default. First Rocky, then Fyfe and now Cotchin ;)
I'll be damned. I think the Honey Fan is on to something.  :o

Inb4 left field winner - Cooney style.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on April 13, 2014, 12:28:38 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on April 13, 2014, 12:25:11 PM
Quote from: Honey Badger on April 13, 2014, 12:22:42 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 13, 2014, 12:14:04 PM
Cotch was clearly pretty filthy, I don't think he should get anything but I have a horrible feeling the MRP will give him a week...
Clearly the MRP have money on Danger to win the Brownlow, but since he's started off poorly they are eliminating the competition so he wins by default. First Rocky, then Fyfe and now Cotchin ;)
I'll be damned. I think the Honey Fan is on to something.  :o

Inb4 left field winner - Cooney style.
stand up ZDawson
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 13, 2014, 02:12:19 PM
Had not thought about it like that HB but maybe you are on to something,

With Cotch now going public with his suggestion of illegal tactics do you think umps may start paying attention to taggers.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-04-13/tag-tactics-illegal-cotch

It seems to me watching games at the moment there seems to be a fair latitude on the holding rule.  Maybe it is time to firm up and if a hold is there pay it.  Not easy to decipher though inn some cases when both appear to be holding but I have seen quite a few obvious ones this round not paid.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 13, 2014, 06:39:13 PM
I hope so Ringo.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 13, 2014, 08:09:12 PM
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-04-13/vfl-tigers-notch-first-win

Our VFL side beat Coburg by 42 points.  :)

Foley, Miles, Stephenson, O'Hanlon and McDonough were some of the standouts.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on April 14, 2014, 02:07:18 AM
Could drop half the team after that performance but that's not going to happen.

Drop Vickery please! Bring Azza Edwards or Knights in for him.
Fingers crossed Lids will be back, we need him bad!
Ivan and Rance can't get back soon enough either!

Some blokes are seriously down on confidence at the moment. Can happen so quick in footy but on the bright side it can turn around the other way very quickly to.
Haven't seen chappy play so poorly since being at the club. Cotchin frustrated and completely tagged out of a game is very rare (although the tactics were questionable) no run or dare in our game at the moment.

A good win against Brisbane could ignite our season and give us the confidence to get going but I'm afraid if we lose then it's curtains on our season. You may think that's a premature call but looking at the season and form so far and we can safely say that hawthorn, Geelong and Freo are all certainties to make the 8. Port are probably the next best at the moment then there are 4 spots remaining which I think are between North, West Coast, Essendon, Sydney, Collingwood and us. We are the worst performing of those teams and the least likely to make it at this stage. Things can and will change though so we just need to make sure it's us that makes the move first.

Very interested to see how we perform this Thursday night. Massive game for us

Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 14, 2014, 09:13:45 AM
Massive game for Brisbane as well so should be a great game. I will be there cheering for Brisbane though and just hoping for a competitive game.  Should be fine as well according to Weather forecasts.



Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Rusty00 on April 14, 2014, 09:18:14 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on April 13, 2014, 12:28:38 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on April 13, 2014, 12:25:11 PM
Quote from: Honey Badger on April 13, 2014, 12:22:42 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 13, 2014, 12:14:04 PM
Cotch was clearly pretty filthy, I don't think he should get anything but I have a horrible feeling the MRP will give him a week...
Clearly the MRP have money on Danger to win the Brownlow, but since he's started off poorly they are eliminating the competition so he wins by default. First Rocky, then Fyfe and now Cotchin ;)
I'll be damned. I think the Honey Fan is on to something.  :o

Inb4 left field winner - Cooney style.
stand up ZDawson
He's already suspended as well :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on April 14, 2014, 09:27:19 AM
Quote from: Rusty00 on April 14, 2014, 09:18:14 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on April 13, 2014, 12:28:38 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on April 13, 2014, 12:25:11 PM
Quote from: Honey Badger on April 13, 2014, 12:22:42 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 13, 2014, 12:14:04 PM
Cotch was clearly pretty filthy, I don't think he should get anything but I have a horrible feeling the MRP will give him a week...
Clearly the MRP have money on Danger to win the Brownlow, but since he's started off poorly they are eliminating the competition so he wins by default. First Rocky, then Fyfe and now Cotchin ;)
I'll be damned. I think the Honey Fan is on to something.  :o

Inb4 left field winner - Cooney style.
stand up ZDawson
He's already suspended as well :P
haha damn, HB is definitely on to something then!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 14, 2014, 10:14:47 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on April 14, 2014, 02:07:18 AM
Drop Vickery please! Bring Azza Edwards or Knights in for him.

This - the team seems a bit tall atm and one of those smaller guys that can play tall would be perfect. Although iirc I think they might both be injured atm :(

Anyone else that can play that position? Could Benny Lennon, O'Hanlon, McDonough be the guys we might look at bringing in?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 14, 2014, 10:30:53 AM
Beatle (188) and O'Hanlon (189) are the right size.

Think McDonough (180) is a bit shorter.

Ricky (185) and Nippa (186) could possibly do it as well.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on April 14, 2014, 11:29:14 AM
Lids won't play this week.
Brisbane will be missing some too though, Rich, Hanley and Berger.

About Tyrone, maybe he's carrying some sort of injury, as he's been shocking in most games this year. I'm not sure if you could hear it on TV but there was a massive cheer when Ty was subbed off.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on April 14, 2014, 11:31:31 AM
Lloyd to last to the byes, right?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 14, 2014, 11:41:04 AM
Quote from: JROO8 on April 14, 2014, 11:29:14 AM
Lids won't play this week.
Brisbane will be missing some too though, Rich, Hanley and Berger.

About Tyrone, maybe he's carrying some sort of injury, as he's been shocking in most games this year. I'm not sure if you could hear it on TV but there was a massive cheer when Ty was subbed off.
Also Merrett still suspended from Brisbane.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on April 14, 2014, 12:02:08 PM
Quote from: Ringo on April 14, 2014, 11:41:04 AM
Quote from: JROO8 on April 14, 2014, 11:29:14 AM
Lids won't play this week.
Brisbane will be missing some too though, Rich, Hanley and Berger.

About Tyrone, maybe he's carrying some sort of injury, as he's been shocking in most games this year. I'm not sure if you could hear it on TV but there was a massive cheer when Ty was subbed off.
Also Merrett still suspended from Brisbane.
Yeah another important out, knew I forgot someone.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: LF on April 14, 2014, 12:02:41 PM
Arnot going to hold his spot in the team>
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 14, 2014, 12:10:31 PM
Quote from: Vinny on April 14, 2014, 11:31:31 AM
Lloyd to last to the byes, right?

You would definitely think so after that performance.


Quote from: luvfooty on April 14, 2014, 12:02:41 PM
Arnot going to hold his spot in the team>

I wouldn't be surprised if he did his tackling pressure was great when he came on, and hit the scoreboard as well which was great to see. He's the kind of guy we need in the middle to protect Cotchin from taggers by putting blocks on etc I think.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 14, 2014, 12:37:57 PM
Yeah, I can see both Arnot and Lloyd holding their spots. Although I wouldn't be surprised to see us make Arnot the sub again.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 14, 2014, 05:25:42 PM
"A lot of rumours going around that Grigg and possibly Vickery may be dropped."
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on April 14, 2014, 06:09:36 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on April 14, 2014, 05:25:42 PM
"A lot of rumours going around that Grigg and possibly Vickery may be dropped."
If this is true there will be lots of happy Tiger supporter.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on April 14, 2014, 06:13:04 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on April 14, 2014, 06:09:36 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on April 14, 2014, 05:25:42 PM
"A lot of rumours going around that Grigg and possibly Vickery may be dropped."
If this is true there will be lots of happy Tiger supporter.

I'm ine of them lol. Have thought Grigg has avoided the axe for far too long. About time he was made accountable
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 14, 2014, 08:47:08 PM
Who would come in for them?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: nickstiges on April 14, 2014, 08:53:56 PM
1 of Foley, McDonough & Lennon and 1 of McBean, A Edwards & Elton.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 14, 2014, 08:56:11 PM
If Lids doesn't get up, which is unlikely... and Dan Jackson also doesn't get up (going for scans I thought I heard), I'd be fairly sure that Foley might get a recall.

Foley could get the vest and allow Arnot to play a full game.

If Foley doesn't get named, I'll make an educated guess and say Ricky Petterd will come back and maybe bring Matty McDonough with him. Can't see O'Hanlon getting called up, would be a tad random (would make sense to get Ricky in and put him forward and make him play tall or possibly do the whole swingman thing).

Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 14, 2014, 09:00:13 PM
Quote from: nickstiges on April 14, 2014, 08:53:56 PM
1 of Foley, McDonough & Lennon and 1 of McBean, A Edwards & Elton.

Is Az Edwards still injured?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 14, 2014, 09:03:02 PM
Quote from: Toga on April 14, 2014, 09:00:13 PM
Quote from: nickstiges on April 14, 2014, 08:53:56 PM
1 of Foley, McDonough & Lennon and 1 of McBean, A Edwards & Elton.

Is Az Edwards still injured?
I thought he was...

McBean played ressies along with Foley, McDonough and Elton iirc.

Can't remember if Beatle did. Edit: Beatle played, got 17 possies. Could be in line for a debut.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 14, 2014, 09:06:09 PM
Yeah I think Lennon is even a chance to come into the side for Vickery if he is dropped. Team is a bit too tall at the moment and Lennon is kind of that medium-sized forward (like A.Edwards), so could be a good fit for the team.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: nickstiges on April 14, 2014, 09:06:22 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on April 14, 2014, 09:03:02 PM
Quote from: Toga on April 14, 2014, 09:00:13 PM
Quote from: nickstiges on April 14, 2014, 08:53:56 PM
1 of Foley, McDonough & Lennon and 1 of McBean, A Edwards & Elton.

Is Az Edwards still injured?
I thought he was...

McBean played ressies along with Foley, McDonough and Elton iirc.

Can't remember if Beatle did. Edit: Beatle played, got 17 possies. Could be in line for a debut.

Edwards needs to pass a fitness test in order to play if picked & Lennon had 17 touches according to the VFL match report his best game of the year.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 14, 2014, 09:08:20 PM
Is Chris Knights injured too? Haven't heard his name pop up anywhere (time to trawl BF).
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 14, 2014, 09:21:42 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on April 14, 2014, 09:08:20 PM
Is Chris Knights injured too? Haven't heard his name pop up anywhere (time to trawl BF).

Yep, check out the injury update on the Tigers' website (I'll post it in the other thread now), but Knights "is a week or two away".

Says Deledio is hoping he'll be back soon - don't think it'll be in the next two weeks but hopefully will be back by around the byes (earlier would be great though!)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 14, 2014, 10:29:20 PM
Hmm, just thinking about if Dimma does get the axe during the season or at the end of it (hope it doesn't come to that, he's been great imo)... who do we reckon are some of the candidates (it's probably a bit early for such discussions only four rounds in, but yeah)?

I don't think Choco would (although I could see him possibly taking the interim role if Dimma went during the season).

Brendon Lade perhaps, maybe Tim Clarke or Ross Smith?

A few external options around too that I can't think of at the minute. 
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 14, 2014, 10:56:12 PM
Keep Dimma.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: nickstiges on April 14, 2014, 11:18:14 PM
He won't go, we're not going back to the times when we sacked coaches for 1 bad year. Fox Footy even made a doco about it.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on April 15, 2014, 01:24:28 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on April 14, 2014, 10:29:20 PM
Hmm, just thinking about if Dimma does get the axe during the season or at the end of it (hope it doesn't come to that, he's been great imo)... who do we reckon are some of the candidates (it's probably a bit early for such discussions only four rounds in, but yeah)?

I don't think Choco would (although I could see him possibly taking the interim role if Dimma went during the season).

Brendon Lade perhaps, maybe Tim Clarke or Ross Smith?

A few external options around too that I can't think of at the minute.

No chance of that happening at all. Pretty sure he signed a new deal at the start of the year didn't he? He has literally taken this club from a rabble to a good side that can push for a premiership in the next couple of years.
Up to the players now to find there confidence and form again. Few injuries to key players haven't helped but there's no excuses, we just have to hit some firm and quickly
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: nrich102 on April 15, 2014, 07:13:01 AM
If Lennon gets named whats the chance of him being sub?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 15, 2014, 10:00:11 AM
Quote from: nrich102 on April 15, 2014, 07:13:01 AM
If Lennon gets named whats the chance of him being sub?
It would probably depend who else is named.

I'm pretty sure that if Foley plays, he's a good chance for the vest (it's becoming a bit like Gia getting the vest at the Dogs).
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 15, 2014, 10:06:40 AM
Quote from: nickstiges on April 14, 2014, 11:18:14 PM
He won't go, we're not going back to the times when we sacked coaches for 1 bad year. Fox Footy even made a doco about it.

Yeah, this. Wouldn't get us anywhere IMO, but the media will talk it up heaps like they do ::)


Quote from: nrich102 on April 15, 2014, 07:13:01 AM
If Lennon gets named whats the chance of him being sub?

As Nige said will depend who else plays. But we have the Thursday night game so you'll know before lockout ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 15, 2014, 10:33:19 AM
It was a hypothetical/worst case scenario really.

Dimma's brought us out of a poor period, going 1-3 should be easy to bounce back from compared to some other hurdles we've faced in the past.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 15, 2014, 12:29:45 PM
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-04-15/the-vfl-report-round-2

I'll post the main ones.

Nathan Foley
Was fantastic, providing real spark early in the game. A quality midfielder at AFL level and continues his impressive attitude and work ethic in the VFL. Although his performance was just standard by his measures, those watching the game thought he was exceptional.

Anthony Miles
Was again the Tigers' best ball-winner, and has been outstanding inside over the last six to eight weeks. Every time he plays he gets clearances and really helps to get the ball to the outside players.

Ben Lennon
Still developing really well and is playing through half back and the midfield area at the moment. A beautiful kick, but still needs to work on choosing the right option. Likely to show his face at senior level in the next three or four weeks.

Jake King
Worked tirelessly as a forward during the game. Provided much needed pressure and caused a heap of turnovers. He hit the scoreboard once but could've kicked two or three goals on the day.

Liam McBean
Was exciting in patches but the game wasn't really for key forwards, and he didn't really have much of an impact on the game. He had a couple of shots on goal but we expect more.

Matt McDonough
Was very good through half back and midfield, providing plenty of exciting run and carry. Was very good around the ball with very clean hands and was able to get the ball to the outside players.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 15, 2014, 12:31:13 PM
Yeah so looks like if Grigg & Vickery come out as someone suggested then Foley & Lennon could be the guys that come into the team (unless Az is fit as I think he would be a good inclusion).
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 15, 2014, 12:37:00 PM
There's also this:

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-04-15/richos-sixpointers-round-4

Richo's six-pointers are a weekly thing (for those that don't know) and I really thought this week's were especially spot on.

- Sam Lloyd made a top-class debut
- Dave Astbury continues to be a rock in the Tigers' defence
- Daniel Jackson's will to win is compensating for his lack of a pre-season
- Bachar Houli has become more important to the Tigers' team in Brett Deledio's absence
- Matt Arnot provided some important grunt and run when he came on as the sub
- Richmond faces a must-win game against the Brisbane Lions at the Gabba on Thursday night
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 15, 2014, 12:39:45 PM
Quote from: Toga on April 15, 2014, 12:31:13 PM
Yeah so looks like if Grigg & Vickery come out as someone suggested then Foley & Lennon could be the guys that come into the team (unless Az is fit as I think he would be a good inclusion).
I'd like to see Madonna (McDonough - just adopting the name I've seen him on BF) come back in.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on April 15, 2014, 12:47:10 PM
so keen to see Anthony Miles elevated off the rookie list and get games damn you Matt Thomas
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 15, 2014, 02:33:13 PM
Pics from training today are on the Facebook page.

Looks like most of the boys were there. Didn't see Az though.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 15, 2014, 03:15:12 PM
I saw one of Az, he had his knee heavily strapped though by the looks of it.

Good to see Lids, Maric & Knights among others out on the track though.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 15, 2014, 03:17:44 PM
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Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 15, 2014, 03:36:22 PM
Quote from: Toga on April 15, 2014, 03:17:44 PM
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Of course I missed it.  :P

I was too busy looking for Knighta and Arnot!  :P

Sidenote: Loving McBean's look, unleash the big fella already!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: nickstiges on April 16, 2014, 01:12:19 PM
Lennon on the plane to Brisbane according to twitter.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on April 16, 2014, 01:21:21 PM
Yeh and no Vickery

Jen Phelan (Witham) ‏@AFL_JenPhelan  42s
No Vickery on the flight to Brisbane. Foley, Petterd, McDonough and Ben Lennon traveling as part of the 25 #AFLLionsTigers
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on April 16, 2014, 02:25:56 PM
Did anyone hold onto McDonough? Looks as though he could be back.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 16, 2014, 05:08:11 PM
Yay! I like all of those ins - would be great to see Benny get a game 8) And glad Vickery is getting a week off, needs to get his shower together.

Didn't hold but will look to het him in I think Jroo.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 16, 2014, 06:49:36 PM
Round 5 team:

B:  Chaplin, Astbury, Grimes

HB:  Houli, Newman, Morris

C:  Grigg, Jackson, Conca

HF:  Martin, Griffiths, Lloyd

F:  S. Edwards, Riewoldt, Petterd

R:  Hampson, Thomas, Cotchin

IC:  Ellis, Vlastuin, Arnot, Gordon

Em:  Lennon, McDonough, Foley
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: LF on April 16, 2014, 06:52:36 PM
Gordon gets the vest maybe?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: nickstiges on April 16, 2014, 07:23:47 PM
Yeah I'd say Gordon, would be between Arnot and him though.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 16, 2014, 07:41:20 PM
I reckon after the way Biscuits performed last week, he'd be a good chance to start the game. The pressure he provides could be great from the outset. Nippa faded after the first quarter last week, so maybe he might get the green vest. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Donnie Brasco on April 16, 2014, 08:11:12 PM
Quote from: luvfooty on April 16, 2014, 06:52:36 PM
Grigg gets the vest

Smart man, couldn't have said it better myself.

Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: LF on April 16, 2014, 08:15:03 PM
Quote from: Donnie Brasco on April 16, 2014, 08:11:12 PM
Quote from: luvfooty on April 16, 2014, 06:52:36 PM
Grigg gets the vest

Smart man, couldn't have said it better myself.

Maybe you need to just be a little careful next time ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 16, 2014, 08:17:16 PM
I'd be interested in seeing Grigg get the vest.

From memory, he did get in once last year.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on April 16, 2014, 10:29:51 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on April 16, 2014, 08:17:16 PM
I'd be interested in seeing Grigg get the vest.

From memory, he did get in once last year.

Id be more interested in him playing in the reserves.
Dont know how he gets a game to be honest. Ball magnet, but no good old fashioned guts and determination
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 16, 2014, 10:32:36 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on April 16, 2014, 10:29:51 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on April 16, 2014, 08:17:16 PM
I'd be interested in seeing Grigg get the vest.

From memory, he did get in once last year.

Id be more interested in him playing in the reserves.
Dont know how he gets a game to be honest. Ball magnet, but no good old fashioned guts and determination
We'll pray he has a shower one haha.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on April 17, 2014, 12:49:32 PM
Grigg is barely in our best 22.
He's slow, soft and isn't a great kick, but he can find the footy. I'm hoping he can turn his form around.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Donnie Brasco on April 17, 2014, 09:06:56 PM
Really embarrassing, absolute rubbish.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on April 17, 2014, 10:35:20 PM
Was Thomas injured? If not, then I'd rather sub off Grigg
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 17, 2014, 10:43:03 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on April 17, 2014, 10:35:20 PM
Was Thomas injured? If not, then I'd rather sub off Grigg
Nope. Or at least as far as I know he wasn't. I found it strange.

Apparently he hasn't touch it at all in the third before he was subbed.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 17, 2014, 10:57:24 PM
Shocking game but :D
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 17, 2014, 11:09:23 PM
Glad we at least built up that margin towards the end of the game. Should have converted half of those behinds though.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 17, 2014, 11:10:28 PM
Yeah I'm at least taking some consolation in the fact that we played poorly for over half the match and still won by a fair margin in the end. Now we need to start playing properly for whole matches and we'll be right ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 17, 2014, 11:11:22 PM
Hawks next week...  :o :-X
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 17, 2014, 11:14:24 PM
Good record against them... Don't think it'll count for much though, hope this win can get us on a roll and kick us back in to form.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 17, 2014, 11:15:51 PM
Quote from: Toga on April 17, 2014, 11:14:24 PM
Good record against them...
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.  :'(

Now we're definitely gonna lose.

I did this to Cairo in Worlds last week.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Donnie Brasco on April 17, 2014, 11:27:27 PM
If Brisbane had more than half a team, we would have been smashed.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 17, 2014, 11:32:30 PM
We're also missing some pretty key players. Lids' run is sorely missed, while I noticed our ruckwork was pretty poor tonight as well compared to what it has been in the past - Hampson may still be a bit underdone. We want Lids & Maric back!

Bright note, Gordon looked lively up front when he came on, Arnot's tackling pressure was great and he needs to hold his spot in the team. I liked what Petterd did giving Lewi Taylor a pat on the back after that nasty blow to the shoulder as well, good sportsmanship.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 17, 2014, 11:37:04 PM
The Ricky Petterd haters can take a seat.

Had a fantastic game imo, one of his best for the club (yes, I know it was against Brisbane, but still).
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 17, 2014, 11:39:13 PM
Some of his handballs were a bit nothing, which pissed me off but a lot of the boys were doing them in the second. Had a good game but yeah he's not gonna be able to mop up outside ball with no pressure on him every week :P

Great sign of sportsmanship though, and that goal was sweeeet. Happy that he and Gordon had good games.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 17, 2014, 11:42:59 PM
I was really happy with Jack's game tonight as well. Definitely a confidence player. When up and about, he's our best player by a mile imo.

Team looks a lot better with Vickery absent, might have to stay that away unless we need to go tall (but once Ivvy returns, R.I.P. Tyrone's career as Tiger :P).

Please drop Grigg.

Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 17, 2014, 11:55:58 PM
Holy shower just realised Hampson had 52 hitouts! Wouldn't have realised watching the game. That's pretty huge - Trent West is a spud though :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: nickstiges on April 17, 2014, 11:56:57 PM
Griggs 29 touches 0 tackles, fantastic pressure...
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Donnie Brasco on April 18, 2014, 12:05:10 AM
Does Troy Chaplin possess any skills?

Does anyone else think we've got far too many recycled players from other clubs? Not one of them can kick.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Donnie Brasco on April 18, 2014, 12:09:37 AM
Quote from: Toga on April 17, 2014, 11:55:58 PMThat's pretty huge - Trent West is a premiership ruckman
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on April 18, 2014, 01:30:16 AM
I'm just happy we got the four points.
I though Petterd was superb tonight. Hampson was decent in the ruck, but he doesn't look 100%.
Jack looked like he was back to his best in the first half, hopefully he plays like that for the rest of the year.

As pointed out above, Grigg finds the ball but doesn't do much else. I can't see him being dropped though.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: nickstiges on April 18, 2014, 09:35:10 AM
Griffiths played very well second fiddle to Jack & Hammer though, very impressive.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 18, 2014, 11:56:08 AM
Do we think Ty could find himself on the outer?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 18, 2014, 12:18:02 PM
Absolutely. Hampson, Griff & Jroo obviously ahead of him at the moment so will have to find something to get back in the team.

Hammer looked a bit sore last night though so hopefully he pulls up ok.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 18, 2014, 12:19:30 PM
Not to mention my main man McJesus knocking on the door.  ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: TheAnt on April 18, 2014, 02:19:31 PM
Quote from: Donnie Brasco on April 18, 2014, 12:09:37 AM
Quote from: Toga on April 17, 2014, 11:55:58 PMThat's pretty huge - Trent West is a premiership ruckman
So is Brent Renouf and Mark Blake  ::) What's your point?
Quote from: Donnie Brasco on April 18, 2014, 12:05:10 AM
Does Troy Chaplin possess any skills?

Does anyone else think we've got far too many recycled players from other clubs? Not one of them can kick.
Light years away from the form he displayed last year, been soft to be honest. It's only now that people are commenting on our recycled players just because we've been rubbish at the start of the year. Not a huge issue given most of them are players we didn't spend a lot on. Still, Matt Thomas should only be in the team if Dan Jackson isn't. Piss him off now thanks.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on April 18, 2014, 09:33:08 PM
Yeah not sure anyone can question our recycled players.

Look at it this way..
We got all of these guys except Hampson for next to nothing

Houli could barely get a game at Essendon and has become an elite running half back
Grigg we got for Collins. Pretty sure Collins played a handful of Games for Carlton then was delisted
Maric couldnt get a game at Adelaide and has become one of the better rucks in the comp with us
Chappy has had a slow start to the season as half our team has but last year was a rock in defence
Petterd Im not conviced on completely but he has been handy
Hampson couldnt get a game with Carlton and has saved us in the ruck. We would have been stuffed without him.
Matt Thomas couldnt get a game at Port and would probably be top 3 in our B&F at the moment

Then the others are fringe players like Edwards who has done good things, Stephenson provides a back up in the ruck, Knights was playing well before doing his knee and Gordon who hasnt had enough games to form an opinion

Think we have had a pretty good strike rate. The jury is still out on a few but I think we have got the better trade/deal on all of those

Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on April 18, 2014, 11:05:20 PM
got some Bomber mates giving me shower for having Houli i my SC team they reckon he is crap don't know wtf they are on this was like a few weeks ago
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Bully on April 19, 2014, 12:37:17 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on April 18, 2014, 11:05:20 PM
got some Bomber mates giving me shower for having Houli i my SC team they reckon he is crap don't know wtf they are on this was like a few weeks ago

I bet if he was playing for them they would be gushing with praise. It's the old Bomber mentality, anything they reject must be useless. Funny thing is that James Hird begged and pleaded for him to stay, I reckon Houli would be counting his lucky stars he stood firm and told him to rack off.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on April 19, 2014, 02:03:25 AM
Ben Griffiths is awesome.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Donnie Brasco on April 19, 2014, 08:58:27 AM
And Nathan Gordon, too.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on April 19, 2014, 09:30:28 AM
Quote from: elephants on April 19, 2014, 02:03:25 AM
Ben Griffiths is awesome.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on April 19, 2014, 11:02:15 AM
I like Griffiths a lot. He can take a mark, has an enormous boot when he gets onto it, can pinch-hit in the ruck... I wish I had him in more fantasy teams and not just AF!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on April 19, 2014, 11:14:45 AM
Quote from: elephants on April 19, 2014, 11:02:15 AM
I like Griffiths a lot. He can take a mark, has an enormous boot when he gets onto it, can pinch-hit in the ruck... I wish I had him in more fantasy teams and not just AF!
Us Tiger fans have been saying this for years, we've know he'll come good one day. He's been one of our best players so far. Happy I got on in every comp apart from SC.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on April 20, 2014, 10:04:23 PM
God this is a tight competition now. Early in the season but we almost have to pinch one of the next 2 games against Hawthorn or Geelong to have any hope of top 4 and perhaps top 8.

I have no doubt things will change throughout the season. Injuries, form, the draw will all play a part at different stages for all teams but at this stage I break the finals contenders into these sections..

The certainties:
1. Hawthorn
2. Geelong
3. Fremantle

The next best:
4. Port Adelaide
5. Collingwood

The hot and colds:
6. West Coast
7. North Melb
8. Sydney
9. Essendon
10. Richmond


Think the top 8 is between these 10 and if we dont get some players back quickly and start playing good footy were going to find it hard.



Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 23, 2014, 09:58:47 PM
So looks like Rance trained yesterday.. If he comes back in, surely we can't take all of him, Chaplin, Astbury and Grimes into the game this weekend?

Who do we think holds their spot and who goes?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 23, 2014, 10:53:06 PM
Quote from: Toga on April 23, 2014, 09:58:47 PM
So looks like Rance trained yesterday.. If he comes back in, surely we can't take all of him, Chaplin, Astbury and Grimes into the game this weekend?

Who do we think holds their spot and who goes?
They've all got strong cases for staying in... tough one.

Chaplin's the most experienced, Grimes is arguably the best at full fitness and Astbury's form so far this year has been amazing.

I can't pick it.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on April 23, 2014, 11:04:37 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on April 20, 2014, 10:04:23 PM


The certainties:
1. Hawthorn
2. Geelong
3. Fremantle

The next best:
4. Port Adelaide
5. Collingwood

The hot and colds:
6. West Coast
7. North Melb
8. Sydney
9. Essendon
10. Richmond


Think the top 8 is between these 10 and if we dont get some players back quickly and start playing good footy were going to find it hard.
+1 spot on Quinny,
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on April 24, 2014, 02:37:32 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on April 23, 2014, 10:53:06 PM
Quote from: Toga on April 23, 2014, 09:58:47 PM
So looks like Rance trained yesterday.. If he comes back in, surely we can't take all of him, Chaplin, Astbury and Grimes into the game this weekend?

Who do we think holds their spot and who goes?
They've all got strong cases for staying in... tough one.

Chaplin's the most experienced, Grimes is arguably the best at full fitness and Astbury's form so far this year has been amazing.

I can't pick it.

Chappy has been terrible this year but I think they will play all 4. Astbury, Rance and Chappy will go to any of Gunston, Rough, and Hale. Grimes can play tall or small so can go to someone like Breust
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 24, 2014, 08:26:06 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on April 24, 2014, 02:37:32 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on April 23, 2014, 10:53:06 PM
Quote from: Toga on April 23, 2014, 09:58:47 PM
So looks like Rance trained yesterday.. If he comes back in, surely we can't take all of him, Chaplin, Astbury and Grimes into the game this weekend?

Who do we think holds their spot and who goes?
They've all got strong cases for staying in... tough one.

Chaplin's the most experienced, Grimes is arguably the best at full fitness and Astbury's form so far this year has been amazing.

I can't pick it.

Chappy has been terrible this year but I think they will play all 4. Astbury, Rance and Chappy will go to any of Gunston, Rough, and Hale. Grimes can play tall or small so can go to someone like Breust
Yeah, I know. I didn't say anything about his form, just that he's the most experienced. All four bring something to the table, but I can't workout who will miss from the 22 that played Brisbane.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on April 24, 2014, 09:18:06 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on April 24, 2014, 02:37:32 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on April 23, 2014, 10:53:06 PM
Quote from: Toga on April 23, 2014, 09:58:47 PM
So looks like Rance trained yesterday.. If he comes back in, surely we can't take all of him, Chaplin, Astbury and Grimes into the game this weekend?

Who do we think holds their spot and who goes?
They've all got strong cases for staying in... tough one.

Chaplin's the most experienced, Grimes is arguably the best at full fitness and Astbury's form so far this year has been amazing.

I can't pick it.

Chappy has been terrible this year but I think they will play all 4. Astbury, Rance and Chappy will go to any of Gunston, Rough, and Hale. Grimes can play tall or small so can go to someone like Breust
Yeah well said, Grimes can definitely play small. I think we can play all of Grimes, Astbury, Rance and Chappy.

Also, Ty Vickery? I think he comes back this week, we can really stretch the Hawks' defence. Apart from Lake, Gibson and Cheney (who may be dropped) aren't big.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 24, 2014, 09:26:43 AM
I want to see Grimes play on Gunston, I reckon that would be a great match up :P


And Jroo yea you're probably right there, the Hawks' defence is a bit undersized atm so that could be a good move bringing in Vickery. Not sure his form warrants a recall though :-\
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on April 24, 2014, 09:45:09 AM
Quote from: Toga on April 24, 2014, 09:26:43 AM
I want to see Grimes play on Gunston, I reckon that would be a great match up :P


And Jroo yea you're probably right there, the Hawks' defence is a bit undersized atm so that could be a good move bringing in Vickery. Not sure his form warrants a recall though :-\
Yeah agreed, his from doesn't warrant selection, but we don't really have any other talls. McBean and Elton aren't ready, while Azza Edwards is injured (when he's fit I'd like to see him in the side).
Another option could be bring in the Big O and move Hampson forward, but Hampson is a much better ruckman than Big O, so I guess Ty will probably come in.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 24, 2014, 09:47:35 AM
Az is listed as a test this week (same as Rance & Lids).
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on April 24, 2014, 09:52:01 AM
Quote from: Toga on April 24, 2014, 09:47:35 AM
Az is listed as a test this week (same as Rance & Lids).
Oh, didn't realise that, cheers Toga.
Well, if he's ready he deserves a go.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on April 24, 2014, 01:32:37 PM
@TravKing_AFL: No Ty Vickery again this week for @Richmond_FC - will play VFL. Deledio, Maric still training away from main group. http://t.co/6gZXK7uls9
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 24, 2014, 01:36:41 PM
No Ty, Lids and Ivvy. Same team?  :o
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 24, 2014, 06:20:57 PM
Well at least it sounds like Rancey will be back. Az Edwards could also be included but not sure who he'd come in for.

Sounds like Lids & Iv are close at least, hopefully will be back in the next fortnight.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on April 24, 2014, 06:44:03 PM
No Vickery? Imma starting Benny Griffiths 8)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 24, 2014, 07:37:44 PM
The Round 6 Tiger squad

B:  Chaplin, Astbury, Grimes
HB:  Houli, Newman, Morris
C:  Grigg, Jackson, Conca
HF:  Martin, Griffiths, Lloyd
F:  S. Edwards, Riewoldt, Petterd
R:  Hampson, Ellis, Cotchin
IC (from):  Helbig, Vlastuin, Arnot, Gordon, Batchelor, McDonough, Lennon

In:  Helbig, Batchelor, McDonough, Lennon
Out:  Thomas (inj - knee)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 24, 2014, 07:39:50 PM
Flossy, Biscuits, Nippa are locks for the bench (you would think).

Means the final spot (and maybe even vest) is between Helbig, Batch, Madonna and Beatle.

I'd guess it's between Madonna and Beatle for that final spot.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 24, 2014, 10:58:12 PM
Yeah can't see Batchelor coming into the team tbh think our backs are doing alright. Helbig could actually be a smokie for that last bench spot, losing Thomas means we might look to include another inside mid which Helbig would fit nicely.

Would love to see McDonough get another game though, and would love to see Lennon get a debut... I'll be happy with any of the three, just not Batch!!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on April 25, 2014, 11:22:39 AM
Batch has actually been pretty good in the VFL, I don't mint him. But most of you guys hate him.
Doubt he comes in though, I think it will be out if the other three.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 25, 2014, 11:29:10 AM
I hadn't heard how he's doing in the VFL, but good to hear he's doing ok. Definitely not a big fan of him Jroo, think he just lacks defensive pressure sometimes which isn't really what you want from a defender lol :P

But my reason for not wanting him in is because we've already got plenty of guys in this week's team that play where Batch does, and he's not as versatile as the other blokes.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on April 25, 2014, 02:53:34 PM
Lennon playing in the VFL, so you wouldn't think he'd play tomorrow.
Probs out of McDonuts and Helbig.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 25, 2014, 03:32:15 PM
Lock in Madonna.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 25, 2014, 09:43:40 PM
McDonough back in the team.

Vickery kicked 3.2 in the reserves today in a draw which is at least a bit promising. Aaron Edwards racked them up and kicked a couple of goals playing in the midfield & up forward, Lennon was again good on the back flanks.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on April 26, 2014, 06:17:16 PM
And Miles best on ground.. again! Get this man on the senior list
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: BigMac_93 on April 26, 2014, 11:12:24 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on April 26, 2014, 06:17:16 PM
And Miles best on ground.. again! Get this man on the senior list
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 27, 2014, 01:51:34 AM
Quote from: BigMac_93 on April 26, 2014, 11:12:24 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on April 26, 2014, 06:17:16 PM
And Miles best on ground.. again! Get this man on the senior list
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on April 27, 2014, 02:00:51 AM
Lads, is there any possibility that Lloyd could be sub tomorrow? Basically my only chance in a number of league matches due to having Fasolo as a unique in many head2heads :'(
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 27, 2014, 09:50:27 AM
Quote from: elephants on April 27, 2014, 02:00:51 AM
Lads, is there any possibility that Lloyd could be sub tomorrow? Basically my only chance in a number of league matches due to having Fasolo as a unique in many head2heads :'(

Really doubt it mate we need him in our forward line as our main goalkicking small forward.

The sub will probably be between McDonough (most likely), Matty Arnot or Nathan Gordon. ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 27, 2014, 09:54:16 AM
Bikkies and Nippa have both shown that they can be effective for a full game, so I'm hoping Dimma shows some faith there and gives Madonna the vest.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on April 27, 2014, 12:04:49 PM
Haha bugger thanks guys. Can't believe I took Fasolo over him!!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on April 27, 2014, 03:16:50 PM
AW Football ‏@3AWisfootball  2m
Thomas: 'Deledio will play next week, he was touch and go for today' #AFLTigersHawks
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on April 27, 2014, 03:21:13 PM
What is the deal with Matt Thomas, was the injury bad? Should be back this week right?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 27, 2014, 03:30:26 PM
What has Dusty done to his arm?! :o
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 27, 2014, 06:24:16 PM
Dan Jackson and Ricky Petterd were flowering terrible today I thought.

Shaun Grigg and Troy Chaplin were the only two players on our list that didn't register one tackle today... That's saying something IMO.

Conca played a good game I thought, Gordon was again really good with his run, and Jack & Cotch battled well.

Josh Gibson is piss weak and hope he gets weeks for that softcock hit on Conca.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 27, 2014, 06:36:02 PM
Jacko had a poor 150th.

Ricky was very poor.

Grigg had a good second quarter, but that was it.

Chappy didn't stand out.

Conca did well for a fair portion of the game.

Nippa impressed, I'd like to see more of him.

Jack was arguably our best today, it was just a shame that he missed a few that he probably would have got any other day.

Cotch fought a bit and didn't let the tag fully get the better of him.

Brandy had a fantastic game, probably equal with Jack for our best today.

Dusty had a shower one, there's nothing else to say.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on April 27, 2014, 06:47:47 PM
Chaplin has been horrible this year.
Luckily Astbury has realllly stepped up.
Shocking performance today, Hawks were CLEARLY too good.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 27, 2014, 06:57:19 PM
Do you think Chaplin could be dropped when Rance comes back in? Hasn't been himself this year, same as Vickery.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 27, 2014, 07:07:10 PM
It seems like the right move, but I'm not so sure it will happen.

Petterd looks likely to make way for Rance.
McDonough or Arnot for Lids.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: BigMac_93 on April 27, 2014, 07:27:07 PM
We desperately need Lids, Ivy and Rance to come back. Hampson dosen't do enough around the ground for me, good tap ruckman but not much else. Grimes has not looked himself this year either, and Petterd has the occasional good game but far too inconsistent.

Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on April 27, 2014, 07:42:49 PM
Quote from: BigMac_93 on April 27, 2014, 07:27:07 PM
We desperately need Lids, Ivy and Rance to come back. Hampson dosen't do enough around the ground for me, good tap ruckman but not much else. Grimes has not looked himself this year either, and Petterd has the occasional good game but far too inconsistent.
Agree about Hampson.
Petterd too, I'm not his biggest fan
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on April 27, 2014, 07:59:48 PM
We need a shake up here. We are limping into the bye and the season is all but gone.
May as well try a few things.  Best 22 after the bye?

FB: Morris, Astbury, Grimes

HB: Houli, Rance, Newman

C:  Ellis, Deledio, Jackson

HF: Martin, Griffiths, Knights

FF: A.Edwards, Riewoldt, Lennon

Foll: Maric, Cotchin, Conca

I/C: Arnot, McBean, Vlastuin Sub: Gordon

Chaplin is not up to it. I dont know if there is an injury or what the problem is but he needs a spell until he finds form. Asbury is in all Australian form down back. Keeping all of the best forwards to low numbers and Rance will be back.

Vickery can stay in the 2's until he learns how to chase and show some heart. King has a toe injury which explained his lack of pace and attack.

Grigg and Petterd need a spell. They should only ever be fill in players if we have injuries. I dont know why they seem to be automatic starters in the best 22 every week.

Hampson has done his job. Maric will be back but I dont think it would be wise to play him as a forward. Would rather Griffiths play that role and fill in for Maric.

Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 27, 2014, 08:13:39 PM
Yeah I like the look of that team quinny. Although surely they won't drop Newman :-X

I'd also probably have Lloyd in there over McBean otherwise we're gonna be too tall IMO. But yeah a shakeup is in order.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 27, 2014, 08:14:13 PM
Not sure Az is straight best 22 fresh off an injury. Chuck McDonough in there, he's been working hard. Lloyd would be stiff to get the boot, probably him over McBean.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on April 27, 2014, 08:18:19 PM
yeah sorry I did Vlastuin twice. I would definitely have Newy
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on April 27, 2014, 08:22:58 PM
I just think McBean needs a chance at it. We have to get through some of these kids to see which ones can play. We know what McDonough and Lloyd have to offer. Is it best 22? Probably not but they have shown enough to know they can play, now lets see what Lennon and McBean have to offer
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 27, 2014, 08:24:59 PM
The only thing I am worried about is that we will enter full rebuild mode again and just play kids, push our premiership window back yet again and let the cycle repeat :(
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 27, 2014, 08:32:01 PM
Yep, that's my exact fear.

I don't what to go the club to go into a mindset of 'oh well, our season is over'. Persist with whoever is showing something and make those that aren't pay the price and rewards the kids that way.

We really need to bridge the gap between our best (Cotch, Lids, Jack etc) and then those guys on the level below.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on April 27, 2014, 08:35:18 PM
Quote from: Toga on April 27, 2014, 08:24:59 PM
The only thing I am worried about is that we will enter full rebuild mode again and just play kids, push our premiership window back yet again and let the cycle repeat :(

Nah thats definitely not the case. This team is capable and talented. It was baisically the same list that got us to half a game away from 4th spot last year. We have had some bad luck with injury and some players horribly out of form. It can turn quickly.

We hit the lead against GC and the Dogs in the last quater, If we win those games and are 4-2 right now were about where you would think we would be. Not saying were playing ok because were not but I dont think we are that far off.

The problem we have is that we have too many players that only play well when the side is playing well. Guys like Grigg, Petterd, Shane Edwards etc. They have to be pushed out. They are not quality players they are just players that make up the 22. Im not saying to give them the ass all together but at least give them a spell, make them earn there spot with good form in the VFL and reward the guys that are playing well in the VFL
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 27, 2014, 08:37:31 PM
I totally get the idea of rewarding the guys playing well in the VFL, but I always wonder how detrimental chopping and changing the side week win, week out actually has.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on April 27, 2014, 08:42:45 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on April 27, 2014, 08:37:31 PM
I totally get the idea of rewarding the guys playing well in the VFL, but I always wonder how detrimental chopping and changing the side week win, week out actually has.

Yeah you are right but we have put ourselves in a hole now and have no choice. The season will be gone if we dont give it a try. Getting Maric, Rance, Lids back will be massive to the team structure. It sucks having Miles on the rookie list. He really needs to be given a chance.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on April 27, 2014, 08:45:24 PM
will Lloyd get dropped guys
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: TomK on April 27, 2014, 08:45:41 PM
It's funny you guys all hating on Grigg but he actually got named in the best players today. http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-04-27/cyril-hawks-crush-tigers
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on April 27, 2014, 08:47:33 PM
Quote from: TomK on April 27, 2014, 08:45:41 PM
It's funny you guys all hating on Grigg but he actually got named in the best players today. http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-04-27/cyril-hawks-crush-tigers

He floated around the backline and gathered possessions so sure, stats wise he looks fine but he plays with no desperation or heart. Needs a spell imo
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 27, 2014, 08:47:56 PM
Yeah I like your points quinny! Just don't want to see the team completely flop, to be honest there's only the one game that we've lost that we definitely should have won and that was against the Doggies. All the others have been against quality sides so far, I think we're just a bit caught up in disappointment at being thumped by the Hawks today.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on April 27, 2014, 08:52:03 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on April 27, 2014, 08:45:24 PM
will Lloyd get dropped guys

Definitely a chance but King is injured so that may save him.

Quote from: Toga on April 27, 2014, 08:47:56 PM
Yeah I like your points quinny! Just don't want to see the team completely flop, to be honest there's only the one game that we've lost that we definitely should have won and that was against the Doggies. All the others have been against quality sides so far, I think we're just a bit caught up in disappointment at being thumped by the Hawks today.

Yeah I think we will be alright. Just need to find the right mix and get some players back and some others back into form.
Today was bad but we certainly wont be the last team to get flogged by Hawthorn this year.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 27, 2014, 08:55:56 PM
Quote from: TomK on April 27, 2014, 08:45:41 PM
It's funny you guys all hating on Grigg but he actually got named in the best players today. http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-04-27/cyril-hawks-crush-tigers

That may be so but 0 tackles is a pretty damning statistic IMO - especially when 20/22 of our players today laid one tackle or more.

For the record I thought he was much better than Petterd & Jackson today.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on April 27, 2014, 09:07:49 PM
Just saw this on the AFL website just to add to your discussion.




Out-of-favour Richmond forward Ty Vickery booted three goals for the Tigers
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: TomK on April 27, 2014, 09:10:26 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on April 27, 2014, 08:47:33 PM
Quote from: TomK on April 27, 2014, 08:45:41 PM
It's funny you guys all hating on Grigg but he actually got named in the best players today. http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-04-27/cyril-hawks-crush-tigers

He floated around the backline and gathered possessions so sure, stats wise he looks fine but he plays with no desperation or heart. Needs a spell imo
Yeah, I saw none of the game so I don't know how we went but I just thought it was interesting he was named in the bests, that's all.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 27, 2014, 09:13:51 PM
Yeah saw that the other day Vin, kicked three in the ANZAC day clash against Frankston on Friday. I'd like to see him perform well in a loss though, as the weekend before he kicked 1 goal among 11 possessions when Williamstown defeated the Richmond VFL.

Needs to show he's not a flat-track bully and can kick goals when we really need them :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on April 27, 2014, 09:19:34 PM
Quote from: Toga on April 27, 2014, 09:13:51 PM
Yeah saw that the other day Vin, kicked three in the ANZAC day clash against Frankston on Friday. I'd like to see him perform well in a loss though, as the weekend before he kicked 1 goal among 11 possessions when Williamstown defeated the Richmond VFL.

Needs to show he's not a flat-track bully and can kick goals when we really need them :P

Vickery can kick goals. He was kicking goals in the seniors to but its his defensive acts and laziness that has him back in the VFL. He needs to be splitting packs, chasing, tackling all of those things. Right now if he doesnt take the mark he is useless
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on April 27, 2014, 09:22:39 PM
flower haha stupid copy and paste.

There was heaps more talking about attitude and stuff haha, and Edwards, Lennon and Miles.

Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on April 27, 2014, 09:45:58 PM
I don't think you guys are in as bad a possie as you think!

You're 2-4 and have lost some very winnable games. Looking ahead though you have the Catters next week in what should be a belter. The Cats were clobbered by Port tonight and the Tiges always save their best footy for Hawks/Cats/Pies. Even if you go down, you've got a week off then Melbourne, the Giants before Dream-Time at the G. If you snag a win against the Cats or Dons and account for the Dees and Giants you'll be sitting at 6-6 at round 12. All won't be lost!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 27, 2014, 09:47:44 PM
I think you're right there ele and that's what I was trying to say before - IMO the only game we've dropped now that really should have been a win was that 3 point loss to the Doggies. All the others have been against quality opponents.

Hopefully we can be competitive against the Cats next week and then really give it a crack after the byes with some very winnable games.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on April 28, 2014, 04:02:34 PM
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-04-27/star-pair-set-to-return
:D
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 28, 2014, 04:28:01 PM
8)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 28, 2014, 04:34:10 PM
Thank you Lord.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on April 29, 2014, 10:44:02 AM
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-04-29/lennon-debut-looming

Richmond's first choice in the 2013 AFL National Draft, Ben Lennon, is in line to make his senior debut for the Club, against Geelong at the MCG next Sunday.

Lennon, who was taken by the Tigers at pick 12 overall, has been in impressive form with Richmond's VFL team during the past few weeks.

The talented teenage utility player was named as an emergency for Richmond's AFL side in last Sunday's clash with Hawthorn, and coach Damien Hardwick has declared him right in the mix for the Round 7 match against the Cats.

"He'll be close," Hardwick said.

"He reminds me a little bit of a (Geelong's Andrew) Mackie type... he can play tall, small, uses the ball well, and he marks it well.

"So, he'll be thereabouts this week."
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on April 29, 2014, 11:55:17 AM
Yeah I reckon it's pretty close to 100% that he comes in.
Not sure what this means for Lloyd, though.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: nickstiges on April 29, 2014, 11:58:54 AM
Lennon is playing half back in the VFL not small forward, Lloyd shouldn't make way for him. McDonough or Newman maybe.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on April 29, 2014, 12:03:31 PM
Quote from: nickstiges on April 29, 2014, 11:58:54 AM
Lennon is playing half back in the VFL not small forward, Lloyd shouldn't make way for him. McDonough or Newman maybe.
I know. I'm not saying he's going to replace Lloyd up forward, but he's the guy that will probably have to make way. I'd like to see McDonough given another go.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 29, 2014, 12:35:14 PM
The ins and outs this week will be interesting.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: BigMac_93 on April 29, 2014, 01:41:45 PM
I will be interested to see who makes way for Rance. I am not sure we can play all 4 of Rance, Grimes, Chaplin and Astbury.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Rusty00 on April 29, 2014, 01:43:16 PM
You'd think if Lennon and Lids are back this week then there is no room for Lloyd. Unless they decide to make a statement and drop Grigg, Jackson, Petterd, etc.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on April 29, 2014, 01:56:43 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on April 29, 2014, 01:43:16 PM
You'd think if Lennon and Lids are back this week then there is no room for Lloyd. Unless they decide to make a statement and drop Grigg, Jackson, Petterd, etc.
Yeah, that's what I was trying to say.
No chance Jackson will be dropped, I think he's been good. Petterd's been good too and Dimma loves him.
Grigg probably won't be dropped either, even though he deserves to be  :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 29, 2014, 03:44:22 PM
I think Petterd is right in the firing line this week and will probably make way for one of Lids or Lennon. If both come into the team, then guys like McDonough, Newman are probably more at risk than Lloyd but you never know :-X

Quote from: BigMac_93 on April 29, 2014, 01:41:45 PM
I will be interested to see who makes way for Rance. I am not sure we can play all 4 of Rance, Grimes, Chaplin and Astbury.

That's what I was asking last week.. On form Chappy is the one that makes way but I seriously don't know what's going to happen, don't think we can afford to play all three though.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on April 29, 2014, 04:29:18 PM
Lloyd being dropped on the eve of bye-time would mean fantasy mayhem!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on April 30, 2014, 12:08:13 PM
Might post this here.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/tigers-legendary-premiership-coach-tommy-hafey-faces-his-toughest-rematch-yet-as-he-battles-cancer-again/story-fni0fit3-1226900298404

For those of faith, keep Tommy Hafey in your prayers.  :)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on April 30, 2014, 12:11:55 PM
Yeah thoughts are with Hafey, all the best with his treatment & recovery.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: BigMac_93 on April 30, 2014, 05:21:17 PM
Sad news, all the best to Tom and his family.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on May 01, 2014, 01:27:54 PM
You blokes reckon Dimma would play Maric, Hampson and Griffiths in the same team?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 01, 2014, 01:29:36 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 01, 2014, 01:27:54 PM
You blokes reckon Dimma would play Maric, Hampson and Griffiths in the same team?
Potentially, but it means Ty wouldn't be playing.

Form could be another thing, because when Ivan comes back, Griffiths will probably have to play as a tall forward or defender. 
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on May 01, 2014, 01:38:03 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on May 01, 2014, 01:29:36 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 01, 2014, 01:27:54 PM
You blokes reckon Dimma would play Maric, Hampson and Griffiths in the same team?
Potentially, but it means Ty wouldn't be playing.

Form could be another thing, because when Ivan comes back, Griffiths will probably have to play as a tall forward or defender.

Yeah that was my next question haha, where does Vickery fit in? It should be interesting for sure. If Griffiths moved back he's then competing with Rance, Chaplin, Astbury and Grimes for the key-back spot.

One things for sure, you don't lack kpp's!

(Ftr, Griffiths > Chaplin, Astbury, Vickery, Hampson) ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 01, 2014, 02:24:14 PM
On current form, Astbury's leading the pack of names you've mentioned.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on May 01, 2014, 02:42:02 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 01, 2014, 01:27:54 PM
You blokes reckon Dimma would play Maric, Hampson and Griffiths in the same team?

I think we can play a maximum of four out of those three + Vickery.. And even that might be too tall.

At the moment I'm thinking the pecking order will be something like: Maric > Griffiths > Hampson > Vickery. Hampson has been good and we would've been dead without him (although we're practically dead anyways this season), but he doesn't do enough around the ground to have himself ahead of Maric, and Griffiths is far more suited to the pinch-hitting forward role in my opinion as he has a fantastic contested mark & a huge boot on him, can kick goals (which Hampson can struggle with, see: time at Carlton).

I don't see us playing Griffiths down back as I think he's been a find up forwards this season, so in my opinion Hampson and Vickery might find themselves fighting out for 0 or 1 position in the team, depending on how tall Dimma wants to go. Throw Aaron Edwards into that mix as well and it'll be a hot contest.

So basically no I can't see all four of those blokes playing in the same side, imo it will be only two or three I would've thought!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on May 01, 2014, 02:46:50 PM
Awesome, thanks guys! That all looks about right :)

I'm a huge Griffiths fan and its killing me to cull him this week in AF :'( Also have Hampson in SC and am thinking with Maric on his way back its almost time to cull him too (he's currently my R3).

Melbourne and GWS after your bye is very very tasty though! Almost want to hold them both through the round 8 bye and give them both a crack at the softer sides!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on May 01, 2014, 02:52:32 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 01, 2014, 02:46:50 PM
Awesome, thanks guys! That all looks about right :)

I'm a huge Griffiths fan and its killing me to cull him this week in AF :'( Also have Hampson in SC and am thinking with Maric on his way back its almost time to cull him too (he's currently my R3).

Melbourne and GWS after your bye is very very tasty though! Almost want to hold them both through the round 8 bye and give them both a crack at the softer sides!

Yeah I love Griffo but getting rid of him this week as well in AF. Our upcoming draw does look tasty but he could well chuck up a 40 this week against a very experienced Geelong defence, while Maric could be back as early as R9 so there's question marks over how his return will affect everyone... I would look at culling Griff for sure, Hampson could be worth persisting with for a few more weeks but his time is just around the corner as well!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 01, 2014, 02:53:12 PM
I'm adamant that this could be Az Edwards' last season with us.

The guy is like 30 now and we've got guys who are younger who can play a similar role. I don't mind him and I think he's been pretty decent in the games he's played, but he always did feel like a stopgap player imo.

I do feel our small and medium forwards seem to do okay though.

Lloyd, McDonough (although he seems to have been made a defender), Beatle (hasn't played but it's imminent), Knights, Petterd (can swing), Push-Up (you'd think this could be his final year as well), not to mention we have guys like Dusty, Arnot etc that are mids that can play forward too (that aren't talls).

I still don't think we've quite found the structure that suits our forward line the best.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on May 01, 2014, 03:02:05 PM
Yeah it could be his last definitely Nigey. Although for the moment I think he's the best option we've got for this year. Jake King is on his last legs and as you say it could be his last season as well. For Christ's sake, can they play McDonough in the forward line?! He was recruited as one of the better small forwards in his draft year, play him there. flower me.

As for our forward structure i think (although we played sh!tehouse), on the weekend it was better than it had been earlier in the season. It had been far too tall before that IMO.

HF: Knights/S.Edwards, Griffiths, McDonough
FF: A.Edwards, Riewoldt, Lloyd

I think that's the set up we should be looking at going with - two talls (with Jack deep FFS!!!), a lead-up medium forward like Az (or maybe Lennon, I'm not sure), dangerous crumbing small forwards in Lloyd, McDonough, Titch, and Knights on a HFF with that magnificent leg of his.

My take on it anyway. :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 01, 2014, 03:05:52 PM
Ah yes, Titch... I knew I was forgetting somebody.  :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on May 01, 2014, 04:09:59 PM
Rance and Lids are back  8)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on May 01, 2014, 04:43:33 PM
Not good news for King, placed on LTI.
http://tige.rs/1u7vMu4

Hopefully Miles comes in  ;D
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on May 01, 2014, 04:46:02 PM
Bad news for King, definitely on his last legs as a footy player I think unfortunately. But...

THE PRAYER WE'VE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR - IT'S MILES TIME.

Form in the VFL has been outstanding, surely he debuts for the club in the next three weeks. Surely!

Also good news for Lloyd you'd think.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on May 01, 2014, 04:47:44 PM
I don't think it's likely, but I'm hoping he gets named this week!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on May 01, 2014, 04:49:10 PM
Yeah it might be a long shot for this week, and then we've got the bye next week, but you'd think he will be the one to be upgraded, and if so, he should be given a run in the seniors soon.

13 clearances last week in the 2's!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on May 01, 2014, 04:54:10 PM
Haha imagine the outrage if we upgrade Banfield instead  :o
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on May 01, 2014, 05:01:02 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on May 01, 2014, 04:54:10 PM
Haha imagine the outrage if we upgrade Banfield instead  :o

Omfg don't even :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 01, 2014, 05:35:59 PM
I've got this stupid gut feeling that just because Push-Up is a small forward that Banfield may get the upgrade.

However, given his ridiculously good form, it would crazy not to give Anthony Miles the upgrade.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on May 01, 2014, 05:41:34 PM
Kind of want Banfield to get upgraded just to see the reaction in here :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on May 01, 2014, 05:57:57 PM
Quote from: Toga on May 01, 2014, 05:01:02 PM
Omfg don't even :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on May 01, 2014, 06:49:21 PM
WHAT THE flowerING flower. WHY WOULD YOU DROP GRIFFITHS DIMMA YOU SPASTIC.

This is an outrage.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on May 01, 2014, 06:50:16 PM
What a flowering joke! Griff and Arnot dropped  >:(

In:  Deledio, Rance, Thomas, A. Edwards, Vickery, Stephenson

Out:  Grimes, Griffiths, Arnot
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on May 01, 2014, 06:52:27 PM
How does Griff lose his spot (potentially) to Edwards, Vickery or Stephenson ::)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on May 01, 2014, 06:54:57 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 01, 2014, 06:52:27 PM
How does Griff lose his spot (potentially) to Edwards, Vickery or Stephenson ::)
I know what a flowering joke. What a disgrace!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 01, 2014, 06:55:14 PM
Deledio for Arnot.
Rance for Grimes.
Griffiths for (please) be Az/Tank
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on May 01, 2014, 06:57:15 PM
Matt Thomas is back, get ready for his awesomeness. 8)

90+ SC please. :)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 01, 2014, 07:13:20 PM
Quote from: Vinny on May 01, 2014, 06:57:15 PM
Matt Thomas is back, get ready for his awesomeness. 8)

90+ SC please. :)
Not necessarily.  :P

Needs to survive the cut from 25 to 22.

I think he might.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on May 01, 2014, 08:25:54 PM
Oh shower true, haha.

Lloyd likely to be cut Nige?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 01, 2014, 08:32:11 PM
Quote from: Vinny on May 01, 2014, 08:25:54 PM
Oh shower true, haha.

Lloyd likely to be cut Nige?
Gonna be perfectly honest here, and I reckon Toga, JROO etc might agree... but after Griff was dropped (possibly) in favour of Ty/Orren/Az... who knows what shower Dimma has in mind.  :-\
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on May 01, 2014, 08:46:35 PM
Hmm. Griffiths has been very impressive this season so my hopes are that we are just managing him this week. Think this means that Vickery might be back in the team this week, otherwise we would be rolling with just Jack & small/mediums up forwards... Which isn't tall enough.

Deledio for Arnot and Rance for Grimes are the obvious like-for-like replacements.. One other change I could see happening is possibly McDonough out for Az but not sure on this one.

I'm just happy, happy, happy that Lids & Tross are back :D
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on May 01, 2014, 09:26:01 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on May 01, 2014, 08:32:11 PM
Quote from: Vinny on May 01, 2014, 08:25:54 PM
Oh shower true, haha.

Lloyd likely to be cut Nige?
Gonna be perfectly honest here, and I reckon Toga, JROO etc might agree... but after Griff was dropped (possibly) in favour of Ty/Orren/Az... who knows what shower Dimma has in mind.  :-\
Fair enough man, thanks anyway. I've prepared for the worst and got some bench cover to cover for my bench cover that is Lloyd who is meant to cover for Fas. :P  ???
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on May 01, 2014, 09:34:07 PM
I'm boycotting fantasy until Griff gets recalled.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on May 01, 2014, 09:46:41 PM
I'm sure Dimma will listen :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on May 01, 2014, 09:52:07 PM
Haha good ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on May 02, 2014, 02:35:49 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on May 01, 2014, 05:35:59 PM
I've got this stupid gut feeling that just because Push-Up is a small forward that Banfield may get the upgrade.

However, given his ridiculously good form, it would crazy not to give Anthony Miles the upgrade.

Banfield probably will be elevated..
If we elevate Miles he can only play for 8-10 weeks while King is on the LTI then he would be forced back onto the rookie list, however if e wait till round 11 to elevate him he can play the rest of the season. Would be silly not to take this approach
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 02, 2014, 09:11:22 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on May 02, 2014, 02:35:49 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on May 01, 2014, 05:35:59 PM
I've got this stupid gut feeling that just because Push-Up is a small forward that Banfield may get the upgrade.

However, given his ridiculously good form, it would crazy not to give Anthony Miles the upgrade.

Banfield probably will be elevated..
If we elevate Miles he can only play for 8-10 weeks while King is on the LTI then he would be forced back onto the rookie list, however if e wait till round 11 to elevate him he can play the rest of the season. Would be silly not to take this approach
That's what I was thinking about last night.

Banfield gives us that option of another small forward if we need him and he's in some decent form to be rewarded with a game, and then come Round 11, Miles gets that other elevation.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on May 02, 2014, 05:30:42 PM
Petterd dropped!  :o
Wasn't expecting that from Dimma, he loves Ricky.
Surprised Thomas wasn't named, but good too see McDonough, Lloyd and Gordon given a go!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 02, 2014, 05:37:29 PM
Let's mention that both Az and Ty are in as well, idk about this.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: BigMac_93 on May 02, 2014, 05:41:40 PM
Anyone thinking Vickery could share ruck duties with Hampson?

Good to see Aaron Edwards back in.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on May 02, 2014, 05:44:27 PM
Quote from: BigMac_93 on May 02, 2014, 05:41:40 PM
Anyone thinking Vickery could share ruck duties with Hampson?

Good to see Aaron Edwards back in.
Yeah, I reckon he will have to, Hampson can't ruck 100% of the time!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 02, 2014, 05:46:10 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on May 02, 2014, 05:44:27 PM
Quote from: BigMac_93 on May 02, 2014, 05:41:40 PM
Anyone thinking Vickery could share ruck duties with Hampson?

Good to see Aaron Edwards back in.
Yeah, I reckon he will have to, Hampson can't ruck 100% of the time!
It's looking that way.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on May 02, 2014, 10:11:25 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on May 02, 2014, 05:30:42 PM
Petterd dropped!  :o
Wasn't expecting that from Dimma, he loves Ricky.

I was. Pathetic last week.

Quote from: NigeyS on May 02, 2014, 05:37:29 PM
Let's mention that both Az and Ty are in as well, idk about this.

Az is a great inclusion for us IMO - dominated in the mids & forward line in the VFL last week and provides that balance between small and tall that we have been struggling with in our forward line.

Quote from: BigMac_93 on May 02, 2014, 05:41:40 PM
Anyone thinking Vickery could share ruck duties with Hampson?

Good to see Aaron Edwards back in.

You would think he will have to given he's the only other bloke able to ruck in this weekend's team (Griffiths isn't playing).
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 04, 2014, 05:02:47 PM
Nip Gordon subbed at half time and I don't think he was injured. That can't be good.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on May 04, 2014, 05:32:52 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on May 04, 2014, 05:02:47 PM
Nip Gordon subbed at half time and I don't think he was injured. That can't be good.

Well 1 disposal and 2 tackles at half time...
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 04, 2014, 05:37:49 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on May 04, 2014, 05:32:52 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on May 04, 2014, 05:02:47 PM
Nip Gordon subbed at half time and I don't think he was injured. That can't be good.

Well 1 disposal and 2 tackles at half time...
Yeah, I'm aware of that.

Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on May 04, 2014, 06:16:36 PM
Good result today I thought. Would've loved a win and we almost got there, but the Cats & Umpires were just too good for us in the end.

Rance and Deledio are just so important to us, and it's great to have them back. Hampson has fought hard so far but he really doesn't have that intensity in him that Ivvy has, will be great to get him into the team after the byes. Thought we played really well for three quarters and if we can start performing like that every week then I will be happy. :)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 04, 2014, 06:23:07 PM
I'll be honest, I liked Tyrone's game today.

I made a premature call in the first about him, but in fairness... the team as a whole only showed up halfway through the second quarter.

Lids and Tross were good today, great to have them back.

I also thought Madonna was good as well, as were Conca and Jacko.

Did feel we got flowered over by the umpires a bit, which along with our terribly slow start, cost us the game.

The way we played from halfway through the second onwards is the way we need to play every week for four quarters, then we'll certainly get wins on the board. The bye next week, but then we have Melbourne and the Giants, two games we need to win and win big to inject some life into out percentage if we're gonna be in with a chance of sneaking into the 8. 
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on May 04, 2014, 07:29:44 PM
Good result today, the boys done well.
We need to come out firing after the byes and beat Melbourne and GWS.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on May 05, 2014, 03:02:21 PM
No Griffiths, No Victory.

Coincidence? Unlikely.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on May 05, 2014, 03:43:39 PM
Lids offered a week fellas...

AFL ‏@AFL  1m
MRP - J Viney referred directly to @AFLTribunal. B Deledio, M Stokes both offered 1 game. L McGuane, D Mundy both offered reprimands.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on May 05, 2014, 03:47:54 PM
FFS  >:(
We finnaly get Lids back and this happens. I've got no idea what he even done, can't recall him doing anything yesterday. If anything, I'd think Chappy would be in a bit of trouble for his hit on Motlop, but he was lucky he didn't hit him in the head.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on May 05, 2014, 04:02:26 PM
What the flower?

Yeah I thought Chappy & Stokes would've been on the side for a few but Lids? What? ???
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 05, 2014, 04:12:40 PM
I actually don't even know what Lids did...
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on May 05, 2014, 04:30:24 PM
oh and...

SuperFooty (AFL) ‏@superfooty  3m
Tigers say Chris Newman will miss 4-6 weeks with calf strain. Tough break in just about his best game of the year #gotiges
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on May 05, 2014, 04:51:58 PM
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-05-05/round-7-deledio-striking-charge
There's the incident.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on May 05, 2014, 04:54:26 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on May 05, 2014, 04:30:24 PM
SuperFooty (AFL) ‏@superfooty  3m
Tigers say Chris Newman will miss 4-6 weeks with calf strain. Tough break in just about his best game of the year #gotiges

Unlucky for Newmo, thought he did alright on the weekend.

Quote from: JROO8 on May 05, 2014, 04:51:58 PM
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-05-05/round-7-deledio-striking-charge
There's the incident.

What the flower? Not a lot to go by...
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on May 05, 2014, 04:59:49 PM
Yeah, can't really see much, so hard to tell.
Bad news about Newy, but he hasn't done a lot this year, borderline best 22. At least Miles or a kid will get a chance.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 05, 2014, 05:02:30 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on May 05, 2014, 04:30:24 PM
oh and...

SuperFooty (AFL) ‏@superfooty  3m
Tigers say Chris Newman will miss 4-6 weeks with calf strain. Tough break in just about his best game of the year #gotiges
I called it straight away while I was watching. I'm like "he's gone for a month"... just the way he pulled up so abruptly and could barely move. The grimace said a lot too, it was like he knew it as well.

Quote from: JROO8 on May 05, 2014, 04:51:58 PM
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-05-05/round-7-deledio-striking-charge
There's the incident.
Blink and you'll miss it.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on May 05, 2014, 05:06:23 PM
This one shows it a lot better. At the 2:00 mark

http://www.afl.com.au/video/2014-05-05/charged-round-seven
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 05, 2014, 05:11:27 PM
Striking.

- Intentional conduct
- Low impact
- High contact

Two match sanction.
One match sanction due to good record.




That's pretty lame...
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on May 05, 2014, 05:11:48 PM
Hmm not sure about that. I guess it was a bit of a striking action but it was more on the collarbone than anything, not sure it should be graded as "high impact" ::)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 05, 2014, 05:15:02 PM
Quote from: Toga on May 05, 2014, 05:11:48 PM
Hmm not sure about that. I guess it was a bit of a striking action but it was more on the collarbone than anything, not sure it should be graded as "high impact" ::)
It's graded as low impact, but high contact.

Would have got most players in the chest, but Stokes is shorter so it got his neck/chin area (paused it).

Honestly think Lids is probably unlucky here.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on May 05, 2014, 05:24:11 PM
Oops I meant high contact
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 05, 2014, 05:27:57 PM
Quote from: Toga on May 05, 2014, 05:24:11 PM
Oops I meant high contact
Haha, thought so.

At least Stokes got picked up as well.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on May 06, 2014, 11:47:52 AM
Good, Deledio to challenge at Tribunal.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-05-06/deledio-to-challenge-at-tribunal
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 06, 2014, 12:47:24 PM
I think he might get off.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 06, 2014, 04:32:24 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1.0-9/10251925_10152396125118276_6031403251147406097_n.jpg)

:-*
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on May 06, 2014, 08:33:41 PM
Lids is free to play  8) you bewwdyy
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 06, 2014, 08:34:32 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on May 06, 2014, 08:33:41 PM
Lids is free to play  8) you bewwdyy
;D So happy!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on May 06, 2014, 08:35:29 PM
Great news.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on May 06, 2014, 08:58:04 PM
:D
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on May 07, 2014, 03:44:25 AM
Something about Ben Griffiths in the Tiges VFL jumper doesn't look right. #isanAFLstandardplayer #playhimDimmayadimwit

Equally, something about Toga not having an image on his dp also doesn't look right :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on May 07, 2014, 06:37:12 PM
Better, ele? :P

<-----
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on May 07, 2014, 06:39:37 PM
In the latest club medical report, Ivan Maric and Chris Knights are listed as "tests" for this week. Both will probably have a game or two in the ressies but good to hear they are both getting close as I think they will be important additions to the team for the second half of the season.

Jake King is listed as 8-10 weeks with an injury to a toe-joint, while Newman has a high-grade medial calf tear and is expected to miss 5-6 weeks.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on May 07, 2014, 06:53:23 PM
Quote from: Toga on May 07, 2014, 06:39:37 PM
In the latest club medical report, Ivan Maric and Chris Knights are listed as "tests" for this week. Both will probably have a game or two in the ressies but good to hear they are both getting close as I think they will be important additions to the team for the second half of the season.

Jake King is listed as 8-10 weeks with an injury to a toe-joint, while Newman has a high-grade medial calf tear and is expected to miss 5-6 weeks.
Good news.
Dimma has said Maric will be out for 2-3 more weeks.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: nickstiges on May 08, 2014, 01:10:12 PM
Maric will play VFL next week after the bye, the VFL team has a bye the same week the seniors do.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on May 08, 2014, 05:50:09 PM
Dusty Martin interview with Richo ahead of the break:

http://www.afl.com.au/video/2014-05-08/i-want-to-be-elite-dusty


Play him in the middle more Dimma, that's where he wants to be! :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on May 08, 2014, 07:38:21 PM
Quote from: Toga on May 08, 2014, 05:50:09 PM
Dusty Martin interview with Richo ahead of the break:

http://www.afl.com.au/video/2014-05-08/i-want-to-be-elite-dusty


Play him in the middle more Dimma, that's where he wants to be! :P

Good to see him actually crack a bit a smile every now and then  :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on May 08, 2014, 08:57:56 PM
Haha you don't see too many of them do ya quinny. I noticed a lot of them were in replays of him on the footy field though, it's obviously not just a job for him but something he loves I think. :)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 13, 2014, 07:01:55 PM
Flowering just do it Richmond
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on May 13, 2014, 07:17:06 PM
Hahahaha
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on May 13, 2014, 08:21:14 PM
Any chance of the legend himself Benny Griffiths getting recalled boys!?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on May 13, 2014, 08:32:48 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on May 13, 2014, 07:01:55 PM
Flowering just do it Richmond

I don't get it :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on May 13, 2014, 08:49:27 PM
Quote from: Toga on May 13, 2014, 08:32:48 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on May 13, 2014, 07:01:55 PM
Flowering just do it Richmond

I don't get it :P
http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,91163.0.html

:P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on May 13, 2014, 09:16:46 PM
Ohhhhh I get ya now ;) Please do Tiggies!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on May 13, 2014, 09:18:58 PM
Yeah FFS, hurry the flower up Tigers. :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on May 14, 2014, 01:01:02 AM
Quote from: Vinny on May 13, 2014, 09:18:58 PM
Yeah FFS, hurry the flower up Tigers. :P

Round 12 ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 14, 2014, 08:38:49 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on May 14, 2014, 01:01:02 AM
Quote from: Vinny on May 13, 2014, 09:18:58 PM
Yeah FFS, hurry the flower up Tigers. :P

Round 12 ;)

Now!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 15, 2014, 06:37:19 PM
Richmond VFL ‏@RichmondVFL 59s

Ivan Maric returns for us as we take on Box Hill, see the squad here http://tige.rs/T5CbIn




:D :D :D
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: BigMac_93 on May 15, 2014, 06:47:19 PM
In: Lennon, Griffiths, Foley
Out: A Edwards, Gordon, Newman

Good to see Lennon getting a go :)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 15, 2014, 06:51:55 PM
Bit sad to see Nippa dropped.

However, Griff back in.

But more importantly...

IT'S BEATLE TIME!  8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: nickstiges on May 15, 2014, 07:00:32 PM
Can't wait to see how he goes on Saturday and hopefully he won't be the YellowGreen Submarine since he's named on field, would go to Foley probably.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on May 15, 2014, 07:08:38 PM
Lennon debuts, called it!

So happy that Maric is returning to the VFL side this week 8)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 15, 2014, 07:33:21 PM
Quote from: nickstiges on May 15, 2014, 07:00:32 PM
Can't wait to see how he goes on Saturday and hopefully he won't be the YellowGreen Submarine since he's named on field, would go to Foley probably.
Yep, I'm thinking Foley wears green too.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on May 16, 2014, 06:01:45 PM
Foley for green boys?

I'm looking at brining in Lloyd and it'd be a disaster if he got the vest over Lennon/Foley/Mcdonuts!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 16, 2014, 06:03:55 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 16, 2014, 06:01:45 PM
Foley for green boys?

I'm looking at brining in Lloyd and it'd be a disaster if he got the vest over Lennon/Foley/Mcdonuts!
Yeah, I reckon Foley's a pretty good chance for the green vest.

Bringing in Lloyd? Isn't it a little late?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on May 16, 2014, 07:32:33 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on May 16, 2014, 06:03:55 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 16, 2014, 06:01:45 PM
Foley for green boys?

I'm looking at brining in Lloyd and it'd be a disaster if he got the vest over Lennon/Foley/Mcdonuts!
Yeah, I reckon Foley's a pretty good chance for the green vest.

Bringing in Lloyd? Isn't it a little late?

Yes and no :P Its late but in DT he only has a BE of 6 and there's sfa good fwd prems or fwd rooks with the round 8 bye!

Plus I'm backing biiiig scores from him, Dusty and my boy (Griff) over the next two weeks against the Dees and Giants!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on May 17, 2014, 10:02:06 AM
Quote from: elephants on May 16, 2014, 06:01:45 PM
Foley for green boys?

I'm looking at brining in Lloyd and it'd be a disaster if he got the vest over Lennon/Foley/Mcdonuts!

Foley > McDonough > Lennon for the vest this week IMO so you should be right. If anything he's more of a red vest candidate given the way he plays but I expect one of Vickery or Griffiths to get that - barring injuries - because we've taken quite a tall team into this weekend.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 17, 2014, 04:26:41 PM
I'm done. Adios.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on May 17, 2014, 04:28:27 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on May 17, 2014, 04:26:41 PM
I'm done. Adios.

I told you to get on Gold Coast and the beginning of this season ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on May 17, 2014, 04:34:21 PM
Hahahahaha Richmond.

Go Dees, that's 2 from 2! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 17, 2014, 04:34:51 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on May 17, 2014, 04:28:27 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on May 17, 2014, 04:26:41 PM
I'm done. Adios.

I told you to get on Gold Coast and the beginning of this season ;)
Me and a mate of mine have been supporting Gold Coast since they came in to the competition in 2011. Since then, we've considered jumping ship and have both been passively supporting the Suns. Today was the last straw. As of now, I'm officially a Suns fan.  :)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on May 17, 2014, 04:36:21 PM
Nige I hope you are joking, that's low as flower.

Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 17, 2014, 04:48:13 PM
Quote from: Vinny on May 17, 2014, 04:36:21 PM
Nige I hope you are joking, that's low as flower.
I'm not. When Gold Coast came in to the competition in 2011, I genuinely almost became a supporter. They've been my 'second team' since and today confirmed that I should have made the switch four years ago.

I'll still be a fan of Richmond and they'll always have a place in my heart. After all, stuck with them for 19 years.  ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on May 17, 2014, 04:50:28 PM
Haha nah lift Nige ;)

Hoping Lloyd and Griffiths survive the chop this week...
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on May 17, 2014, 04:52:03 PM
Nah that's bullshower man, that's low as.

You don't drop your team when they are doing shower, reckon that's just sad.

There's stacks of teams doing way worse than Richmond. Should be sticking by them...

Come on dude.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: LF on May 17, 2014, 04:52:11 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 17, 2014, 04:50:28 PM
Haha nah lift Nige ;)

Hoping Lloyd and Griffiths survive the chop this week...

Simple if Lloyd gets chopped and Lennon doesn`t grab Lennon :D
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on May 17, 2014, 04:54:32 PM
Quote from: Vinny on May 17, 2014, 04:52:03 PM
There's stacks of teams doing way worse than Richmond. Should be sticking by them...

Don't want to be mean but :/
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 17, 2014, 04:56:30 PM
Quote from: Vinny on May 17, 2014, 04:52:03 PM
Nah that's bullshower man, that's low as.

You don't drop your team when they are doing shower, reckon that's just sad.

There's stacks of teams doing way worse than Richmond. Should be sticking by them...

Come on dude.
Not just jumping off them because they did bad today. ::)

Still a Richmond fan, just like the Suns that little bit more now.  ;)

Quote from: luvfooty on May 17, 2014, 04:52:11 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 17, 2014, 04:50:28 PM
Haha nah lift Nige ;)

Hoping Lloyd and Griffiths survive the chop this week...

Simple if Lloyd gets chopped and Lennon doesn`t grab Lennon :D
Griffiths did okay tbh, the axe will be swung in Lloyd's direction.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on May 17, 2014, 04:57:07 PM
Quote from: luvfooty on May 17, 2014, 04:52:11 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 17, 2014, 04:50:28 PM
Haha nah lift Nige ;)

Hoping Lloyd and Griffiths survive the chop this week...

Simple if Lloyd gets chopped and Lennon doesn`t grab Lennon :D

Haha, that'd be perfect but there are more important trades to be made next week!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on May 17, 2014, 04:59:30 PM
I'm aware of that man but there has been teams like Melbourne who have been so so shower but supporters have stuck by.

Haha I just reckon it's a pathetic thing to do. That's just IMO.

If it takes that little to make you change, I can't say you were a loyal supporter ever.

Dude I'm just saying how I feel about people changing teams.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 17, 2014, 05:02:03 PM
Quote from: Vinny on May 17, 2014, 04:59:30 PM
I'm aware of that man but there has been teams like Melbourne who have been so so shower but supporters have stuck by.

Haha I just reckon it's a pathetic thing to do. That's just IMO.

If it takes that little to make you change, I can't say you were a loyal supporter ever.

Dude I'm just saying how I feel about people changing teams.
I get what you're saying.  :)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on May 17, 2014, 05:03:39 PM
Good, I hope you wake up and change your mind tomorrow morning. ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 17, 2014, 05:05:40 PM
Quote from: Vinny on May 17, 2014, 05:03:39 PM
Good, I hope you wake up and change your mind tomorrow morning. ;)
Maybe if Richmond beat GWS by 100 + next week.  :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 17, 2014, 05:09:11 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on May 17, 2014, 05:05:40 PM
Quote from: Vinny on May 17, 2014, 05:03:39 PM
Good, I hope you wake up and change your mind tomorrow morning. ;)
Maybe if Richmond beat GWS by 100 + next week.  :P

bandwagon supporter ???
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 17, 2014, 05:10:05 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on May 17, 2014, 05:09:11 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on May 17, 2014, 05:05:40 PM
Quote from: Vinny on May 17, 2014, 05:03:39 PM
Good, I hope you wake up and change your mind tomorrow morning. ;)
Maybe if Richmond beat GWS by 100 + next week.  :P

bandwagon supporter ???
You know it. ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: ossie85 on May 17, 2014, 06:00:36 PM
In fairness to nige,  the amount of false dawns the tigers have had is incredble

2-6

Hardwick under pressure
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on May 17, 2014, 06:03:44 PM
lol wtf richmond
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on May 17, 2014, 06:08:04 PM
What a disgraceful performance today, can't believe we couldn't get up for Tommy.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on May 17, 2014, 06:09:13 PM
Hahahahahahahahaha Richmond!

And lol at switching to the suns when in a rough patch ::)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on May 17, 2014, 06:13:47 PM
And I picked you boys for top 3...

Like Oss said, Hardwick has to be put under pressure now
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on May 17, 2014, 06:19:49 PM
A couple of positives out of today,
Dusty was great close to BOG.
Lennon looked great when he came on.
Jackson has been superb this year.
McDonough looked good in patches.

But yeah, today's performance is not acceptable and we've got GWS next week. Don't know if we'll win.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on May 17, 2014, 06:33:23 PM
If I were a Richmond supporter I'd be placing a ban on you for the Richmond section Nige  :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on May 17, 2014, 06:36:20 PM
Quote from: brad on May 17, 2014, 06:33:23 PM
If I were a Richmond supporter I'd be placing a ban on you for the Richmond section Nige  :P
Haha same. I'd be ripping into him big time despite his good blokenessness. :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on May 17, 2014, 06:40:27 PM
Quote from: Vinny on May 17, 2014, 06:36:20 PM
Quote from: brad on May 17, 2014, 06:33:23 PM
If I were a Richmond supporter I'd be placing a ban on you for the Richmond section Nige  :P
Haha same. I'd be ripping into him big time despite his good blokenessness. :P
think his blood was boiling a bit. which is fair enough after a loss but you never turn your back on your own team. Nigey will be back supporting Richmond again soon I have no doubt :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on May 17, 2014, 06:44:15 PM
Quote from: brad on May 17, 2014, 06:40:27 PM
Quote from: Vinny on May 17, 2014, 06:36:20 PM
Quote from: brad on May 17, 2014, 06:33:23 PM
If I were a Richmond supporter I'd be placing a ban on you for the Richmond section Nige  :P
Haha same. I'd be ripping into him big time despite his good blokenessness. :P
think his blood was boiling a bit. which is fair enough after a loss but you never turn your back on your own team. Nigey will be back supporting Richmond again soon I have no doubt :P
Yeah for sure haha
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 17, 2014, 06:48:38 PM
Quote from: brad on May 17, 2014, 06:33:23 PM
If I were a Richmond supporter I'd be placing a ban on you for the Richmond section Nige  :P
Same.  :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Donnie Brasco on May 17, 2014, 06:53:43 PM
Grigg
Vickery
Chaplin

Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on May 17, 2014, 06:56:49 PM
DAMMIT TIGERS FANS SOMEONE RIP INTO NIGEL.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on May 17, 2014, 06:58:37 PM
Chaplin is flowering useless, a shadow of what he was last year.
Grigg finds a lot of the ball, but isn't damaging.
If Dimma wants to make a statement, he should drop both, but he won't.
Especially with Astbury out, I can't see Chappy coming out.  :(
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 17, 2014, 08:36:18 PM
Quote from: Vinny on May 17, 2014, 06:56:49 PM
DAMMIT TIGERS FANS SOMEONE RIP INTO NIGEL.
I'll come to Knox, find you and rip out your intestines if you don't shut the flower up.  :P

Don't worry Vin, I don't really mean in it.  :-*
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on May 17, 2014, 09:00:44 PM
Hahaha I know mate. :P I'm just stirring.

BUT SERIOUSLY WHY THE flower WOULD YOU CHANGE YOUR TEAM

SUCH A DOG
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 17, 2014, 09:04:31 PM
Quote from: Vinny on May 17, 2014, 09:00:44 PM
Hahaha I know mate. :P I'm just stirring.

BUT SERIOUSLY WHY THE flower WOULD YOU CHANGE YOUR TEAM

SUCH A DOG
I'll meet you at the TAB at 10. Be there.  ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on May 17, 2014, 09:06:38 PM
Hahaha I'm too busy watching my mate Pav destroy Geelong. 8)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 17, 2014, 09:07:38 PM
Quote from: Vinny on May 17, 2014, 09:06:38 PM
Hahaha I'm too busy watching my mate Pav destroy Geelong. 8)
You can watch the game at the TAB.  :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 17, 2014, 09:09:16 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on May 17, 2014, 09:07:38 PM
Quote from: Vinny on May 17, 2014, 09:06:38 PM
Hahaha I'm too busy watching my mate Pav destroy Geelong. 8)
You can watch the game at the TAB.  :P

not whilst being beaten up by a GC supporter
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on May 17, 2014, 09:10:15 PM
GC Bandwagoner ;) ;D
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 17, 2014, 09:10:55 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on May 17, 2014, 09:09:16 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on May 17, 2014, 09:07:38 PM
Quote from: Vinny on May 17, 2014, 09:06:38 PM
Hahaha I'm too busy watching my mate Pav destroy Geelong. 8)
You can watch the game at the TAB.  :P

not whilst being beaten up by a GC supporter
Good point.  ;D
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 17, 2014, 09:12:31 PM
but i think i'd back Vinny to win he would just keep laughing (hahaha) and put Nigel off his game
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Kellogscrunchynut on May 17, 2014, 09:22:53 PM
Not happy Nige, and wheres my gif?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 17, 2014, 09:28:16 PM
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on May 17, 2014, 09:22:53 PM
Not happy Nige, and wheres my gif?
I'll probably do it tomorrow.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on May 17, 2014, 09:37:15 PM
Quote from: Vinny on May 17, 2014, 09:10:15 PM
GC Bandwagoner ;) ;D
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on May 18, 2014, 01:38:00 AM
That was definitely the nail in the coffin. Had to win that to keep finals hopes alive. Been a disappointing season, so many players out of form. Time to start just playing the youngsters for the rest of the year I think and remove the fringe players.
Over the next few weeks I would like to see guys like Lennon, Arnot, McBean, Miles, Elton etc all get a couple games and push out guys like Petterd, Vickery, Grigg and a few others
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 18, 2014, 01:53:55 AM
Do you want Lloyd to keep playing ?

Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on May 18, 2014, 01:59:45 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on May 18, 2014, 01:53:55 AM
Do you want Lloyd to keep playing ?

Yep I think he will become a very dangerous small forward
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 18, 2014, 02:02:15 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on May 18, 2014, 01:59:45 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on May 18, 2014, 01:53:55 AM
Do you want Lloyd to keep playing ?

Yep I think he will become a very dangerous small forward

Same I think he will be very good when you guys find form again think he needs the team to be playing well
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: MTTY on May 18, 2014, 10:47:55 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on May 17, 2014, 04:26:41 PM
I'm done. Adios.

Nige, I started following AFL (properly) in 2006, where I chose to support Melbourne. That is the only decent year i've witnessed as a supporter. We lost in a semi-final to Fremantle.

After that Melbourne have finished (in order): 14th (5 wins), Wooden Spooners (3 wins), Wooden Spooners (4 wins), 12th (8 wins, 1 draw), 13th (8 wins, 1 draw), 16th (4 wins) and 17th (2 wins). (Not including the current season)

Taking out the first year I followed them (which was around halfway through the season anyway), I've witnessed and sat through:

- 34 wins in 7 years (and 2 draws)
- An average of 4.86 wins per year
- 2 Wooden Spoons
- Averaging a Wooden Spoon every 0.29 years (close to every third year)
- 1 Finals appearance


You'll be fine...
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 18, 2014, 11:17:49 AM
Quote from: MTTY on May 18, 2014, 10:47:55 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on May 17, 2014, 04:26:41 PM
I'm done. Adios.

Nige, I started following AFL (properly) in 2006, where I chose to support Melbourne. That is the only decent year i've witnessed as a supporter. We lost in a semi-final to Fremantle.

After that Melbourne have finished (in order): 14th (5 wins), Wooden Spooners (3 wins), Wooden Spooners (4 wins), 12th (8 wins, 1 draw), 13th (8 wins, 1 draw), 16th (4 wins) and 17th (2 wins). (Not including the current season)

Taking out the first year I followed them (which was around halfway through the season anyway), I've witnessed and sat through:

- 34 wins in 7 years (and 2 draws)
- An average of 4.86 wins per year
- 2 Wooden Spoons
- Averaging a Wooden Spoon every 0.29 years (close to every third year)
- 1 Finals appearance


You'll be fine...
I give it a week. I'll be back on board when Richmond beat GWS next round.  :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: MTTY on May 18, 2014, 11:28:36 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on May 18, 2014, 11:17:49 AM
Quote from: MTTY on May 18, 2014, 10:47:55 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on May 17, 2014, 04:26:41 PM
I'm done. Adios.

Nige, I started following AFL (properly) in 2006, where I chose to support Melbourne. That is the only decent year i've witnessed as a supporter. We lost in a semi-final to Fremantle.

After that Melbourne have finished (in order): 14th (5 wins), Wooden Spooners (3 wins), Wooden Spooners (4 wins), 12th (8 wins, 1 draw), 13th (8 wins, 1 draw), 16th (4 wins) and 17th (2 wins). (Not including the current season)

Taking out the first year I followed them (which was around halfway through the season anyway), I've witnessed and sat through:

- 34 wins in 7 years (and 2 draws)
- An average of 4.86 wins per year
- 2 Wooden Spoons
- Averaging a Wooden Spoon every 0.29 years (close to every third year)
- 1 Finals appearance


You'll be fine...
I give it a week. I'll be back on board when Richmond beat GWS next round.  :P

Good to hear  :)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 18, 2014, 12:26:16 PM
my man played this weekend yet?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 18, 2014, 12:36:45 PM
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-05-17/maric-returns-but-vfl-tigers-fall-short

named in the best again  8)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on May 18, 2014, 01:18:17 PM
Good to see Maric did ok, he can't come back soon enough. Also pleasing to hear Thomas & Miles (again) were among our better players, can't wait for Miles to get his well-deserved call up.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 18, 2014, 03:05:47 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on May 18, 2014, 12:36:45 PM
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-05-17/maric-returns-but-vfl-tigers-fall-short

named in the best again  8)
Tell me truthfully, would you give a shower if he wasn't in your BXVs (and WXVs?) team(s)?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Andrew3747 on May 18, 2014, 03:57:15 PM
No idea how you can go from 5th to 14th with a better list in 12 months.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: ossie85 on May 18, 2014, 04:06:55 PM
Quote from: Andrew3747 on May 18, 2014, 03:57:15 PM
No idea how you can go from 5th to 14th with a better list in 12 months.

the others got betterer
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on May 18, 2014, 04:10:01 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on May 18, 2014, 04:06:55 PM
Quote from: Andrew3747 on May 18, 2014, 03:57:15 PM
No idea how you can go from 5th to 14th with a better list in 12 months.

the others got betterer
Exactly, plus not many have improved from our side.
Pretty even comp this year. There are plenty of sides outside the eight that can make finals.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Donnie Brasco on May 18, 2014, 06:06:54 PM
I reckon a lot of guys played above themselves, too many of them just aren't up to it.

When have you seen Grigg or Vickery come off the ground exhausted? Both are just taking the p155, because they know they are untouchable and won't be dropped.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on May 19, 2014, 01:43:36 PM
You know you're having a shower year when the Melbourne supporters are offering support  :'(
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: MTTY on May 19, 2014, 01:57:40 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on May 19, 2014, 01:43:36 PM
You know you're having a shower year when the Melbourne supporters are offering support  :'(

Seriously quinny? Why the dig at Melbourne??
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on May 19, 2014, 01:59:11 PM
Quinny always thinks melbourne is bad
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: MTTY on May 19, 2014, 01:59:48 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on May 19, 2014, 01:59:11 PM
Quinny always thinks melbourne is bad

Yeah i've noticed that.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 19, 2014, 02:00:02 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on May 19, 2014, 01:59:11 PM
Quinny always thinks melbourne is bad
Yeah, seems to have some Barrett like vendetta.  :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on May 19, 2014, 02:01:10 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on May 19, 2014, 02:00:02 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on May 19, 2014, 01:59:11 PM
Quinny always thinks melbourne is bad
Yeah, seems to have some Barrett like vendetta.  :P

SCATTER GUN APPROACH
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: MTTY on May 19, 2014, 02:15:04 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on May 19, 2014, 02:01:10 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on May 19, 2014, 02:00:02 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on May 19, 2014, 01:59:11 PM
Quinny always thinks melbourne is bad
Yeah, seems to have some Barrett like vendetta.  :P

SCATTER GUN APPROACH

Hold on a sec.....

quinny, you're not actually Damian Barrett are you?  ???
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on May 19, 2014, 02:15:46 PM
Quote from: MTTY on May 19, 2014, 01:57:40 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on May 19, 2014, 01:43:36 PM
You know you're having a shower year when the Melbourne supporters are offering support  :'(

Seriously quinny? Why the dig at Melbourne??

It was a joke.. Lol
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: MTTY on May 19, 2014, 02:17:25 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on May 19, 2014, 02:15:46 PM
Quote from: MTTY on May 19, 2014, 01:57:40 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on May 19, 2014, 01:43:36 PM
You know you're having a shower year when the Melbourne supporters are offering support  :'(

Seriously quinny? Why the dig at Melbourne??

It was a joke.. Lol

Be that as it may, you have your fair share of digs at them. So I just presumed it was not.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on May 19, 2014, 02:18:01 PM
Melbourne further ahead in their rebuild than the Tigers ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on May 19, 2014, 02:20:26 PM
Quote from: MTTY on May 19, 2014, 02:17:25 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on May 19, 2014, 02:15:46 PM
Quote from: MTTY on May 19, 2014, 01:57:40 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on May 19, 2014, 01:43:36 PM
You know you're having a shower year when the Melbourne supporters are offering support  :'(

Seriously quinny? Why the dig at Melbourne??

It was a joke.. Lol

Be that as it may, you have your fair share of digs at them. So I just presumed it was not.

What are you on about?  :o I had a dig at them a year ago when Neeld was coaching them and I told you all he was a useless coach and recruited poorly with top up players to try and save his job which I ended up being right about..
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: MTTY on May 19, 2014, 02:39:41 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on May 19, 2014, 02:20:26 PM
Quote from: MTTY on May 19, 2014, 02:17:25 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on May 19, 2014, 02:15:46 PM
Quote from: MTTY on May 19, 2014, 01:57:40 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on May 19, 2014, 01:43:36 PM
You know you're having a shower year when the Melbourne supporters are offering support  :'(

Seriously quinny? Why the dig at Melbourne??

It was a joke.. Lol

Be that as it may, you have your fair share of digs at them. So I just presumed it was not.

What are you on about?  :o I had a dig at them a year ago when Neeld was coaching them and I told you all he was a useless coach and recruited poorly with top up players to try and save his job which I ended up being right about..

That's still having a dig, no matter when it was. Not saying you don't also praise us at times, but you do take digs. Which is why I assumed it wasn't a joke.

Anyhow just for a laugh  ;) :

Quote from: quinny88 on April 14, 2014, 02:41:14 AM

Because we already knew Melbourne were shower. Carlton were meant to be good and have just lost to a team that they couldn't lose to. Bravo to Melbourne but a big club like Carlton with high expectations going into the season only to quickly be 0-4 and having just lost to the worst side in the comp will always be a bigger story than Melbourne winning. I'm glad the heats on Carlton. Stops the media sinking the boots in to Richmond for a couple of weeks :P


Quote from: quinny88 on December 21, 2013, 11:42:02 PM
They are still gonna get flogged most weeks this coming season. You left their best player out of that midfield. Nathan jones


Quote from: quinny88 on November 01, 2013, 11:40:14 AM
Hate to be a Debbie downer but I think Roos is overrated. I watched him on "on the coach" all season and he repeats the same old boring crap every week (talking up Sydney).
He seems to have this  legacy as though he was a coach for the ages. Leigh Matthews was a coach for the ages. Roos won one premiership that Sydney could have easily not been in if not for some miracle last quarter from Nick Davis.
He has a good winning record but it was all  built on half way ladder finishes and keeping the team topped up with players in fear that if they bottomed out the club could go under (his own admission)
His game plan is based on defensive choking..
If Melbourne play like that, no one will go and watch them. They are lucky to get 20,000 people through the gates as it is. I hope he brings something fresh to the table.


Quote from: quinny88 on November 01, 2013, 03:03:56 PM
I didn't mean in this thread I just mean in general football discussion I feel as though it's been made out that he was this football mastermind. He was a solid coach but no legend. I'm sure he will go well though. They can't get any worse lol


Quote from: quinny88 on November 01, 2013, 03:08:20 PM
Yeah but they aren't going to win games.. That's my point. They are going to lose regardless so they may as well do t with a bit of flare.
You only have to cast your mind back to when Lyon arrived at freo and for half of 2011 everyone was calling for his head because they were playing ugly defensive football and not winning that much. No one cares how their team plays when they are winning but when u play ugly and are losing crowds are turned away and Melbourne can't afford that.
Who knows though! Roos isn't stupid, he may bring a whole new game plan to the table. We will soon see


Quote from: quinny88 on November 01, 2013, 04:23:51 PM
Who are they gonna beat apart from gws?

Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on May 19, 2014, 02:40:55 PM
Cop that, hahahaha.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on May 19, 2014, 02:47:03 PM
Boooom! haha
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 19, 2014, 02:59:09 PM
My lord, it's almost as if MTTY was waiting for this moment.  :o

That's impressive.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on May 19, 2014, 03:05:44 PM
Oh wow... So me stating that Melbourne are a bottom side is having a dig? Captain obvious could have made those calls. I bet I could find as many posts from anyone that has muttered a word about the dees in the past 12 months.

What would you have liked my posts to be? :o "Melbourne are a top 8 side not a bottom side"
They were just obvious statements based on the fact that they had won like 5 games in 2 years...
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: MTTY on May 19, 2014, 03:11:26 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on May 19, 2014, 03:05:44 PM
Oh wow... So me stating that Melbourne are a bottom side is having a dig? Captain obvious could have made those calls. I bet I could find as many posts from anyone that has muttered a word about the dees in the past 12 months.

What would you have liked my posts to be? :o "Melbourne are a top 8 side not a bottom side"
They were just obvious statements based on the fact that they had won like 5 games in 2 years...

1. No, but you using words like 'shower' and 'worst' is having a dig.

2. Didn't say you couldn't, but i'm not talking about them. I'm talking about you.

3. No, I would have liked you to actually call us a bottom side, as opposed to 'shower' or 'worst'


Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on May 19, 2014, 03:15:30 PM
You were shower and the worst team when I said that! I wasn't having a dig I was just saying it how it was.. Sorry for not using it in a polite manner as to not offend you ::)
Guess what, I say a lot worse about my own club when we play bad so don't take it personally. No vendetta against Melbourne I just don't beat around the bush and say things as I see them
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: MTTY on May 19, 2014, 03:18:01 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on May 19, 2014, 03:15:30 PM
You were shower and the worst team when I said that! I wasn't having a dig I was just saying it how it was.. Sorry for not using it in a polite manner as to not offend you ::)

Well to me if you call something or someone 'shower' it's offensive and having a dig.

I'll leave it at that, as this is way off topic now.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on May 19, 2014, 03:21:54 PM
And there's the smackdown!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on May 19, 2014, 03:24:13 PM
Sit down Quinny.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on May 19, 2014, 03:29:01 PM
Quote from: MTTY on May 19, 2014, 03:18:01 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on May 19, 2014, 03:15:30 PM
You were shower and the worst team when I said that! I wasn't having a dig I was just saying it how it was.. Sorry for not using it in a polite manner as to not offend you ::)

Well to me if you call something or someone 'shower' it's offensive and having a dig.

I'll leave it at that, as this is way off topic now.

How long have you followed Melbourne? :o You must get offended every day if you find it offensive every time people call them shower?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: TeeJay on May 19, 2014, 03:40:31 PM
He's a Melbourne supporter. Don't you know they are all senior aged scholars that smoke wooden pipes, drive range rovers and spend more of the winter in their log cabins at the snow than at the actual footy. They find cheering at the football offensive so they sit and clap politely and say "jolly good" when they kick a goal then go back to reading their novel in the MCC members stand
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ringo on May 19, 2014, 03:45:08 PM
Careful Tee Jay Comments starting to get a little offensive now. You can have banter without these offensive remarks.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: TeeJay on May 19, 2014, 03:47:22 PM
Quote from: Ringo on May 19, 2014, 03:45:08 PM
Careful Tee Jay Comments starting to get a little offensive now. You can have banter without these offensive remarks.

:-X
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: stew42 on May 19, 2014, 04:41:09 PM
So anyway...

When can Miles claim his glory in the seniors? Really needing a mid downgrade soon...
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: stew42 on May 19, 2014, 04:42:08 PM
Whoops just saw the discussion the next thread down. As you were :)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 19, 2014, 04:43:05 PM
Quote from: stew42 on May 19, 2014, 04:41:09 PM
So anyway...

When can Miles claim his glory in the seniors? Really needing a mid downgrade soon...
He'll almost certainly get upgraded when each team gets their perma-upgrade for the rest of the season. I think that happens Round 12?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on May 19, 2014, 07:14:15 PM
QuoteDamien Hardwick says he will reward VFL form so you can put the house on Anthony Miles being promoted from the rookie list to take on his old side. He had another 32 touches against Box Hill on Saturday.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/the-afl-barometer-whos-hot-whos-not-and-whos-in-line-for-selection-in-round-10/story-fncufbo5-1226922729390
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 19, 2014, 07:17:19 PM
Miles vs his old side should be a beauty, especially if his VFL form translate to AFL level.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 19, 2014, 07:25:14 PM
INJURIES

Jake King (toe) 7-9 weeks
Chris Knights (knee soreness) test
Chris Newman (calf) 4-6 weeks
David Astbury (knee) indefinite
Jake Batchelor (Achilles soreness) TBC
Trent Cotchin (ankle) test

ON THE BLOCK: This could be a long list. Skipper Trent Cotchin (ankle) is confident he'll be right to play despite coach Damien Hardwick taking a more conservative approach. So many players were disappointing against Melbourne and for many it's a serious trend. Troy Chaplin and Bachar Houli are leaders at the club but they aren't showing it on the field, Ty Vickery is Ty Vickery, Shaun Grigg can find the pill but butchers it, Ben Griffiths shows signs but can't put four quarters together, Brandon Ellis has stalled in his development and Steve Morris might not be able to cut it at this level. There will be one forced change against the Giants with luckless defender David Astbury - one of the few Tiger improvers this year - out with another knee injury.

ON THE CUSP: Damien Hardwick says he will reward VFL form so you can put the house on Anthony Miles being promoted from the rookie list to take on his old side. He had another 32 touches against Box Hill on Saturday as did Matt Thomas - and at least you can rely on those two to put their heads over the ball. Dylan Grimes will replace Astbury while Ricky Petterd and Brad Helbig were in the best again and Ivan Maric got through a half OK, but Hardwick says he needs a couple more weeks to be ready for AFL action.

AL PATON'S FORECAST: Oh boy. Forget finals calculations, the Tigers need to figure out how to play a winning brand of football. The slick transition that made Richmond great to watch in 2013 has disappeared, but then it's hard to get the game on your terms if you can't win the footy in the first place. Maybe some players thought the improvement curve of the past four years would continue and forgot that requires hard work. Some hard questions will be asked at Punt Rd this week and if there isn't a response against GWS there could be a nationwide power failure as microwaves go into a membership-frying meltdown.




That's rather accurate and well said imo.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on May 19, 2014, 07:37:04 PM
Who is more likely to make finals, Carlton or Richmond? ???

Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on May 19, 2014, 07:40:22 PM
Quote from: Vinny on May 19, 2014, 07:37:04 PM
Who is more likely to make finals, Carlton or Richmond? ???

Neither
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on May 19, 2014, 07:41:11 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on May 19, 2014, 07:40:22 PM
Quote from: Vinny on May 19, 2014, 07:37:04 PM
Who is more likely to make finals, Carlton or Richmond? ???

Neither
Answer the question haha. Neither are likely but who is more likely?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on May 19, 2014, 08:02:14 PM
On present form Carlton are more likely, but neither team looks like they will improve from last years results
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on May 19, 2014, 08:21:07 PM
Quote from: Vinny on May 19, 2014, 07:41:11 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on May 19, 2014, 07:40:22 PM
Quote from: Vinny on May 19, 2014, 07:37:04 PM
Who is more likely to make finals, Carlton or Richmond? ???

Neither
Answer the question haha. Neither are likely but who is more likely?

Well I will just go mathematically then and say Carlton as they have 1 more win lol.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on May 19, 2014, 08:23:50 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on May 19, 2014, 08:02:14 PM
On present form Carlton are more likely, but neither team looks like they will improve from last years results
Yeah probably not but still haha.

Quote from: quinny88 on May 19, 2014, 08:21:07 PM
Quote from: Vinny on May 19, 2014, 07:41:11 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on May 19, 2014, 07:40:22 PM
Quote from: Vinny on May 19, 2014, 07:37:04 PM
Who is more likely to make finals, Carlton or Richmond? ???

Neither
Answer the question haha. Neither are likely but who is more likely?

Well I will just go mathematically then and say Carlton as they have 1 more win lol.
Trust.. ::)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on May 19, 2014, 09:04:38 PM
If Benny Griffiths gets dropped, people will be burnt.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: MTTY on May 19, 2014, 09:22:32 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 19, 2014, 09:04:38 PM
If Benny Griffiths gets dropped, people will be burnt.

What would it take to get Griffiths in a trade, Tigers fans?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on May 19, 2014, 09:35:00 PM
Sorry to hijack that thought there MTTY buuuut...

Matt Rosa has put off signing and new contract and he is actually a Vic boy. Would you Tiger fans be interested in him at all?

I don't think anything would realistically come of it as we have stacks of KPPs and lack stars through the midfield. I also don't want to think too much about losing my fav player but just interested in the opinions of Eastern states fans on MR!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 19, 2014, 09:36:57 PM
Quote from: MTTY on May 19, 2014, 09:22:32 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 19, 2014, 09:04:38 PM
If Benny Griffiths gets dropped, people will be burnt.

What would it take to get Griffiths in a trade, Tigers fans?
He's rated very highly internally. He's Choco Williams project player as well this year iirc. I think he's started to show why we've invested in him and is repaying the faith shown in him by the club. His versatility is another thing I'm fairly certain Dimma loves and yeah, I can't see him going anywhere.

You can have Todd Elton.  :P

Quote from: elephants on May 19, 2014, 09:35:00 PM
Sorry to hijack that thought there MTTY buuuut...

Matt Rosa has put off signing and new contract and he is actually a Vic boy. Would you Tiger fans be interested in him at all?

I don't think anything would realistically come of it as we have stacks of KPPs and lack stars through the midfield. I also don't want to think too much about losing my fav player but just interested in the opinions of Eastern states fans on MR!
Rosa's an interesting one. He's a good player already and would be a good addition to our midfield for sure, just not sure if we would make a play for him and where he would fit in exactly.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on May 19, 2014, 09:41:00 PM
Quote from: MTTY on May 19, 2014, 09:22:32 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 19, 2014, 09:04:38 PM
If Benny Griffiths gets dropped, people will be burnt.

What would it take to get Griffiths in a trade, Tigers fans?

Take Vickery instead ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on May 19, 2014, 09:41:59 PM
Quote from: Vinny on May 19, 2014, 08:23:50 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on May 19, 2014, 08:02:14 PM
On present form Carlton are more likely, but neither team looks like they will improve from last years results
Yeah probably not but still haha.

Quote from: quinny88 on May 19, 2014, 08:21:07 PM
Quote from: Vinny on May 19, 2014, 07:41:11 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on May 19, 2014, 07:40:22 PM
Quote from: Vinny on May 19, 2014, 07:37:04 PM
Who is more likely to make finals, Carlton or Richmond? ???

Neither
Answer the question haha. Neither are likely but who is more likely?

Well I will just go mathematically then and say Carlton as they have 1 more win lol.
Trust.. ::)

Well what do you think?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on May 19, 2014, 09:42:26 PM
Yeah, I really hope Rosa re-signs and I just know it will come after he plays a blinder (his last two re-signings were both after 40+ possession games).

Starting to play a different role across half-back, obviously taking advantage of his elite endurance and outside work.

Just hope he puts pen to paper soon :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: MTTY on May 19, 2014, 09:43:34 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 19, 2014, 09:35:00 PM
Sorry to hijack that thought there MTTY buuuut...

Matt Rosa has put off signing and new contract and he is actually a Vic boy. Would you Tiger fans be interested in him at all?

I don't think anything would realistically come of it as we have stacks of KPPs and lack stars through the midfield. I also don't want to think too much about losing my fav player but just interested in the opinions of Eastern states fans on MR!

All good ele.  :)


Quote from: NigeyS on May 19, 2014, 09:36:57 PM
Quote from: MTTY on May 19, 2014, 09:22:32 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 19, 2014, 09:04:38 PM
If Benny Griffiths gets dropped, people will be burnt.

What would it take to get Griffiths in a trade, Tigers fans?
He's rated very highly internally. He's Choco Williams project player as well this year iirc. I think he's started to show why we've invested in him and is repaying the faith shown in him by the club. His versatility is another thing I'm fairly certain Dimma loves and yeah, I can't see him going anywhere.

You can have Todd Elton.  :P

Damn, that's a shame.  :-\

I actually rated Elton as a junior
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: MTTY on May 19, 2014, 09:44:27 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on May 19, 2014, 09:41:00 PM
Quote from: MTTY on May 19, 2014, 09:22:32 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 19, 2014, 09:04:38 PM
If Benny Griffiths gets dropped, people will be burnt.

What would it take to get Griffiths in a trade, Tigers fans?

Take Vickery instead ;)

Elton maybe. Vickery no way!!!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Noz on May 19, 2014, 09:52:41 PM
I dont want to start anything im just here to voice my opinion list a couple of points and leave.

The problem with Richmond which i have been saying all along:

- Most of these players peaked last year, this is showing this year as none of the players are playing better then they did last year, Nor is anyone having a breakout year where ever other club has at least one player breaking out.

- You have absolutely no depth at all in any position.

- Hardwick decided to bring in experience rather than youth in an attempt to win a flag which has blown up in his face. None of the players he has brought in with the exception of Maric has done anything. Chaplin did pretty good last year but this season he has been OK

- The fact that Foley can't even get a gig in this current team is laughable.

- For the price you paid for Hampson he barely gets a pass mark this year. 

I think thats all for now.

Richmond dont have any chance at all this week they will get embarrassed again against the Giants this week and will become the first ever team to loose to Melbourne, Giants and the Suns in the one year.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 19, 2014, 09:53:40 PM
Quote from: MTTY on May 19, 2014, 09:44:27 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on May 19, 2014, 09:41:00 PM
Quote from: MTTY on May 19, 2014, 09:22:32 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 19, 2014, 09:04:38 PM
If Benny Griffiths gets dropped, people will be burnt.

What would it take to get Griffiths in a trade, Tigers fans?

Take Vickery instead ;)

Elton maybe. Vickery no way!!!
Roos could transform Vickery, have a little faith.  :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on May 19, 2014, 10:07:07 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on May 19, 2014, 09:41:59 PM
Quote from: Vinny on May 19, 2014, 08:23:50 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on May 19, 2014, 08:02:14 PM
On present form Carlton are more likely, but neither team looks like they will improve from last years results
Yeah probably not but still haha.

Quote from: quinny88 on May 19, 2014, 08:21:07 PM
Quote from: Vinny on May 19, 2014, 07:41:11 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on May 19, 2014, 07:40:22 PM
Quote from: Vinny on May 19, 2014, 07:37:04 PM
Who is more likely to make finals, Carlton or Richmond? ???

Neither
Answer the question haha. Neither are likely but who is more likely?

Well I will just go mathematically then and say Carlton as they have 1 more win lol.
Trust.. ::)

Well what do you think?
It could go either way really. Depends which Tigers team show up from now, the one against Geelong or the one every other week? Same depends for the Blues. Both teams are lacking confidence and hunger like TBag said I think. We'd probably be in a better position to do it but both are unlikely but not impossible. 13 rounds is a long time to turn things around.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 19, 2014, 10:13:40 PM
Quote from: Noz on May 19, 2014, 09:52:41 PM
I dont want to start anything im just here to voice my opinion list a couple of points and leave.

The problem with Richmond which i have been saying all along:

- Most of these players peaked last year, this is showing this year as none of the players are playing better then they did last year, Nor is anyone having a breakout year where ever other club has at least one player breaking out.

- You have absolutely no depth at all in any position.

- Hardwick decided to bring in experience rather than youth in an attempt to win a flag which has blown up in his face. None of the players he has brought in with the exception of Maric has done anything. Chaplin did pretty good last year but this season he has been OK

- The fact that Foley can't even get a gig in this current team is laughable.

- For the price you paid for Hampson he barely gets a pass mark this year. 

I think thats all for now.

Richmond dont have any chance at all this week they will get embarrassed again against the Giants this week and will become the first ever team to loose to Melbourne, Giants and the Suns in the one year.

Righto Noz, you know I generally respect your opinion and I think you're a decent bloke, but I'd like to call you out on a few points here.




Quote- Most of these players peaked last year, this is showing this year as none of the players are playing better then they did last year, Nor is anyone having a breakout year where ever other club has at least one player breaking out.

This I can't argue with and is true, although peaked probably isn't the right word, but the essence of the point is there.

Quote- You have absolutely no depth at all in any position.

The term 'depth' is interesting imo. Some see depth as having a surplus of players in certain positions, others see it as having good replacements if necessary (see: Hawthorn). I think Richmond's in the middle of those definitions. We have a load of guys with ability/potential, but I'll admit that a lot of them either haven't got the chance or when they have, are yet to show it.

Quote- Hardwick decided to bring in experience rather than youth in an attempt to win a flag which has blown up in his face. None of the players he has brought in with the exception of Maric has done anything. Chaplin did pretty good last year but this season he has been OK

This is a tough call. I'd argue that most of the 'recycled' or 'experienced' players have done better in their time with us than they have at their old clubs, but in no way am I saying they've done exceptionally well. I think guys like Maric, Houli, Chaplin and Petterd (bit controversial this one) have been considerably better as Tigers than they were previously. Some of these were specific recruitments (Maric obviously was) while others like Orren Stephenson, Matt Thomas etc were for depth, experience and back-up purposes and to be stopgap players.

Quote- The fact that Foley can't even get a gig in this current team is laughable.

I'm a fan of Foley, but he's an interesting case. Injuries kind of cost him a little and he's been fighting his way back in to the side. Played last week and definitely wasn't out worst. However, as much as I like him, I feel his time at the club is limited as other younger mids come through like Miles, Arnot etc.

Quote- For the price you paid for Hampson he barely gets a pass mark this year.

We gave up Pick 32, which Carlton traded for 39 and Everitt. Everitt's been decent for Carlton and the Blues picked Cameron Giles (yet to play). Hampson was a needs-based recruitment though, we need a back-up ruck for Ivan because Orren is like 31 and not gonna be around past this season or next and Vickery, Griffiths and McBean aren't rucks, and can only pinch-hit. I think Hammer has been good without being great, started the season well but has faded and I think that's only because he's not used to shouldering the ruck duties on his own with little support since Carlton thought he'd be a good forward option. So, to say he 'barely' gets a pass mark is probably a tad harsh considering we'd be even more flowered without him this season.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Noz on May 19, 2014, 10:17:59 PM
Honestly im glad to hear your side of things Nige in a respectable way.  :)

Oh yes i did forget about Houli i will say he has been quite a good player at his time in Richmond but does he belong at half back? He normally gets caught out in one on one contests i just feel he would be a lot better if he was giving the ability to play further up the ground maybe as a wingmen. Would like to hear your thoughts on the Houli case.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 19, 2014, 10:21:42 PM
Quote from: Noz on May 19, 2014, 10:17:59 PM
Honestly im glad to hear your side of things Nige in a respectable way.  :)

Oh yes i did forget about Houli i will say he has been quite a good player at his time in Richmond but does he belong at half back? He normally gets caught out in one on one contests i just feel he would be a lot better if he was giving the ability to play further up the ground maybe as a wingmen. Would like to hear your thoughts on the Houli case.
I like Houli in his current role, but I guess it could be interesting to see him do that. I'm assuming we're talking a bit like a Lumumba kind of role (think Heater does something like this too)?

It probably wouldn't hurt trialling him like that, but I think he does a good job in defense. 
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on May 19, 2014, 10:23:58 PM
Oi Noz, wtf man your opinion sucks.

I'm right.

Richmond are the best man.

flower you Noz

what do you know man

Hate you man.

man man man

apologies I'm going mad.

Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Noz on May 19, 2014, 10:27:27 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on May 19, 2014, 10:21:42 PM
Quote from: Noz on May 19, 2014, 10:17:59 PM
Honestly im glad to hear your side of things Nige in a respectable way.  :)

Oh yes i did forget about Houli i will say he has been quite a good player at his time in Richmond but does he belong at half back? He normally gets caught out in one on one contests i just feel he would be a lot better if he was giving the ability to play further up the ground maybe as a wingmen. Would like to hear your thoughts on the Houli case.
I like Houli in his current role, but I guess it could be interesting to see him do that. I'm assuming we're talking a bit like a Lumumba kind of role (think Heater does something like this too)?

It probably wouldn't hurt trialling him like that, but I think he does a good job in defense.

Yeah thats exactly what im talking about moulding him into one of those running types like Lumumba or Heater will suit the team

Quote from: Vinny on May 19, 2014, 10:23:58 PM
Oi Noz, wtf man your opinion sucks.

I'm right.

Richmond are the best man.

flower you Noz

what do you know man

Hate you man.

man man man

apologies I'm going mad.

Is this the first ever post that Vin didn't reply with a laugh  :(

Im sorry Vin.  :-\
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on May 19, 2014, 10:29:22 PM
Hahaha just kidding man. We're cool. ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 19, 2014, 10:30:29 PM
Quote from: Noz on May 19, 2014, 10:27:27 PM
Is this the first ever post that Vin didn't reply with a laugh  :(
Yep.  :o

I think Brandon Ellis is supposed to be playing a role like that atm, not completely sure. But yeah, wouldn't mind seeing Dimma let Houli try that out.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on May 19, 2014, 11:43:39 PM
Quote from: Noz on May 19, 2014, 09:52:41 PM
I dont want to start anything im just here to voice my opinion list a couple of points and leave.

The problem with Richmond which i have been saying all along:

- Most of these players peaked last year, this is showing this year as none of the players are playing better then they did last year, Nor is anyone having a breakout year where ever other club has at least one player breaking out.

- You have absolutely no depth at all in any position.

- Hardwick decided to bring in experience rather than youth in an attempt to win a flag which has blown up in his face. None of the players he has brought in with the exception of Maric has done anything. Chaplin did pretty good last year but this season he has been OK

- The fact that Foley can't even get a gig in this current team is laughable.

- For the price you paid for Hampson he barely gets a pass mark this year. 

I think thats all for now.

Richmond dont have any chance at all this week they will get embarrassed again against the Giants this week and will become the first ever team to loose to Melbourne, Giants and the Suns in the one year.

Sorry, I know we have rarely seen eye to eye on anything this year so you make think im just disagreeing with you for the sake of disagreeing but these points are all wrong on some level or another and its obvious that you are basing them on a very distant view without knowing the clubs reasonings etc. Not having a go at you, I wouldnt expect you to know the ins and outs of Richmond just as I dont know the ins and outs of Ports but ill respond to each point anyway.

- I agree that a lot of our players had their best years last year but my theory on our improvemnt was that alot didnt. Our 3 best and most important players in Maric, Cotchin and Deledio all had significantly quieter years than the previous year so I thought they would all go to another level again. Hasnt helped that Lids and Maric have only seen 3 games between them.
The guys that had career best seasons were Conca, Ellis, Martin, Vlastuin, Rance, Chaplin, Jackson. Most of these guys are very young so I dont see it as a "peak" but just natural progression of young players. Chappy was always a reasonable defender but has gone completely backwards. The breakout player that you didnt mention is David Astbury. Has kept nearly every one of the oppositions best forwards goalless but is now probably gone for the season.

- The depth is wrong. I think we have plenty in all areas except key defenders. The problem is that we are still a young side, Richmond VFL team is in their first year but the idea of that is that we can develop them with the same game plan and structure to step straight into the seniors.

- Hardwick didnt bring in experience to win a flag at all. That is the most far off point you have made. When he started doing this was Gold Coasts first year and they devised a plan to us the trade table rather than the draft to fill positions because all of the good picks were going to GC and GWS and we were finishing middle of the table missing out all together. None of the players Richmond went after were stars and most could barely get a game at their old clubs. They had a role for them to fill and apart from this year have done it very well. Similair to Port identifying they need pace and instead of going to the draft, looking at fringe players in Polec and Matty White and having a specific role for them that has worked well.
I still back in most of our recruits, just horribly out of form. Grigg can F off though.

- Foley has had an injury interupted career. When fit has always been selected but like alot of the team is out of form and playing poorly. Did play on the weekend by the way for 14 disposals which is poor.

- Hampson wasnt recruited to be a sole ruckman but im bloody glad he's their because without we would be stuffed right now. 2nd most hitouts to advantage in the league speaks for itself. No issues their but time will tell on that one.

And the cheap shot at the end saying "were no chance to beat GWS" thats just dumb  ::) honestly wouldnt be surprised if we lost but we are still heavy favourites
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: ossie85 on May 20, 2014, 06:31:09 AM

Having players isn't depth. Each team has 40 odd players. Having quality is depth.

Richmond do not have good depth, you only have to look at the bottom 6 players playing for the Tigers to see this

Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on May 20, 2014, 02:41:46 PM
SuperFooty (AFL) ‏@superfooty  6m
More pain for @Richmond_FC with Nick Vlastuin to miss 3-5 weeks with broken finger. Fitness test for Trent Cotchin http://hsun.info/1ghBwxw
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 20, 2014, 02:45:08 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on May 20, 2014, 02:41:46 PM
SuperFooty (AFL) ‏@superfooty  6m
More pain for @Richmond_FC with Nick Vlastuin to miss 3-5 weeks with broken finger. Fitness test for Trent Cotchin http://hsun.info/1ghBwxw
McBean also broke his finger in the VFL.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on May 20, 2014, 03:12:19 PM
Fantasy Freako ‏@FantasyFreako  5m
Anthony Miles has been promoted to the senior list and one would expect him to face his former side GWS this week. #AFLFantasy #SuperCoach
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 20, 2014, 03:24:00 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on May 20, 2014, 03:12:19 PM
Fantasy Freako ‏@FantasyFreako  5m
Anthony Miles has been promoted to the senior list and one would expect him to face his former side GWS this week. #AFLFantasy #SuperCoach

so happy would post a happy dance gif but cbf

to bad i don't have to name a BXV team this week :'(
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on May 20, 2014, 03:35:09 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on May 20, 2014, 06:31:09 AM

Having players isn't depth. Each team has 40 odd players. Having quality is depth.

Richmond do not have good depth, you only have to look at the bottom 6 players playing for the Tigers to see this

Our team is out of form. They were fine last year, they are fine this year just playing like crap and more kids being played as a result of injuries/form. Not concerned with our depth at all
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on May 20, 2014, 03:36:30 PM
Well done to miles. Has earned his shot the way a player should be made to earn it. Consistent good form in the VFL
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 20, 2014, 03:46:26 PM
hope he not the sub
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 20, 2014, 04:23:17 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on May 20, 2014, 03:46:26 PM
hope he not the sub
I think this would be unlikely.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on May 20, 2014, 04:41:52 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on May 20, 2014, 06:31:09 AM

Having players isn't depth. Each team has 40 odd players. Having quality is depth.

Richmond do not have good depth, you only have to look at the bottom 6 players playing for the Tigers to see this

^
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on May 21, 2014, 11:21:19 AM
Quote from: Noz on May 19, 2014, 09:52:41 PM
- Most of these players peaked last year, this is showing this year as none of the players are playing better then they did last year, Nor is anyone having a breakout year where ever other club has at least one player breaking out.

You've hit the nail on the head with this point definitely Noz. Last year a lot of our players had career best years and that's why we progressed so far up the ladder, and while this year other clubs have had breakout players, we definitely haven't.

I'd argue that David Astbury has 'broken out' as a player but then again he is a key defender so there's only so much his break out can achieve for us... We need our rebounding & offensive players to exceed expectations if we want to improve as a team.

But yeah, I completely agree with your point here mate! :)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on May 21, 2014, 11:23:27 AM
Quote from: Noz on May 19, 2014, 10:17:59 PM
Oh yes i did forget about Houli i will say he has been quite a good player at his time in Richmond but does he belong at half back? He normally gets caught out in one on one contests i just feel he would be a lot better if he was giving the ability to play further up the ground maybe as a wingmen. Would like to hear your thoughts on the Houli case.

This is also an interesting idea and I quite like it tbh. I am a big fan of Houli and think his penetration and willingness to kick the footy (rather than look for stupid handballs, see: Dan Jackson) is a big asset to us, but I know a lot of Tigers supporters aren't big fans of him because he can be quite poor defensively.

Moving Houli to a wing (Ellis on the other wing) in place of Grigg could be a very good move!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on May 21, 2014, 11:25:46 AM
On another note, woo! Stoked for Miles. Has been in good form in the VFL and hopefully will teach the rest of the team a thing or two about how to win the contested ball.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: shaker on May 21, 2014, 07:08:42 PM
Good to see Miles finally being elevated don't know why it took quite so long , the Tiges have recruited to many rejects of late instead of investing in more youth and we are paying the price , also saw that Shane Edwards has been given another 2 year contract thought they might have said goodbye to him as he really has not shown any improvement in the last couple of years he still goes missing when things get a bit tough , totally disappointed with them this year but just hoping they can turn it around who knows  :(
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on May 21, 2014, 07:09:56 PM
About time.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on May 21, 2014, 07:49:25 PM
I like Titch Edwards, glad he signed on. I know his development has stalled a bit of late but he can still be a very dangerous small forward to add to the midfield rotations.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on May 21, 2014, 08:21:53 PM
Quote from: Toga on May 21, 2014, 07:49:25 PM
I like Titch Edwards, glad he signed on. I know his development has stalled a bit of late but he can still be a very dangerous small forward to add to the midfield rotations.
Agreed, I think he's pretty dangerous when he's up and going.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 21, 2014, 08:38:16 PM
I particularly liked Titch's game after he came on as the sub, that was good. He did okay last week too.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: shaker on May 22, 2014, 09:46:18 AM
Quote from: Toga on May 21, 2014, 07:49:25 PM
I like Titch Edwards, glad he signed on. I know his development has stalled a bit of late but he can still be a very dangerous small forward to add to the midfield rotations.

Agree that at the moment the cupboard is a bit bare for dangerous small forwards but I think he developing days are over have not seen really any change in him for the last 2 or 3 years but he is far from alone and like I said hoping they can turn it around , this week against GWS it is the Tiges most important game of the year failure will send them back to pre 2013 times
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on May 22, 2014, 10:23:53 AM
Lol Hardwick on Riewoldt after his comments the other day

"We caught up with him this morning - we've removed his foot from his mouth & my foot from his arse"
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on May 22, 2014, 11:00:15 AM
He also wouldn't confirm if Jack was playing this week
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Mr.Craig on May 22, 2014, 11:42:42 AM
We're a happy team at Richmond
We're the mighty, fighting Tiges
We love our cubs and we play to win
Clawing the lounge with a grin (at Richmond)
Come what may you'll find us sleeping
Catnip is the thing that talks
One for paw and all for paw
Is the way we play at Richmond
We are the mighty fighting Tiges
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on May 22, 2014, 01:07:08 PM
Very strange from Hardwick and I really don't think justified either.

Riewoldt was hardly scathing and he kind of had a point, not sure what sticking your foot up his arse for that is at all useful for
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: SydneyRox on May 22, 2014, 01:12:48 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on May 22, 2014, 10:23:53 AM
Lol Hardwick on Riewoldt after his comments the other day

"We caught up with him this morning - we've removed his foot from his mouth & my foot from his arse"

best AFL quote of all time!!  ;D
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: ossie85 on May 22, 2014, 01:29:17 PM
Well Riewoldt shouldn't be talking about the game plan

worst.  Media.  Ban. Ever
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 22, 2014, 01:41:28 PM
Fairly sure the media ban ended weeks ago.

Gotta love Jack, you just do.  ;D

Dimma goes alright also.  :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on May 22, 2014, 04:34:44 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on May 22, 2014, 01:07:08 PM
Very strange from Hardwick and I really don't think justified either.

Riewoldt was hardly scathing and he kind of had a point, not sure what sticking your foot up his arse for that is at all useful for

Was spot on from Hardwick. What jack said was out of line. Not a players job to make those sort of comments.
Pretty much all of the media were waiting for the backlash from dimma. I thought he did well to keep it humerous because I don't think it would have been humerous in the meeting this morning
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 22, 2014, 04:42:31 PM
i'm way to nervous waiting for Miles to get named
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on May 22, 2014, 04:49:55 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on May 22, 2014, 04:42:31 PM
i'm way to nervous waiting for Miles to get named

Will be the first picked player mate. Absolute certainty
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on May 22, 2014, 04:58:01 PM
Good to see you edit numerous to humorous :P

I read it, thinking wtf numerous hehe
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 22, 2014, 05:00:56 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 22, 2014, 04:58:01 PM
Good to see you edit numerous to humorous :P

I read it, thinking wtf numerous hehe

i was like great another word i not heard of lol

i'm just annoyed i cant name Miles in BXV this week :(
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Capper on May 22, 2014, 05:32:18 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on May 22, 2014, 10:23:53 AM
Lol Hardwick on Riewoldt after his comments the other day

"We caught up with him this morning - we've removed his foot from his mouth & my foot from his arse"
Just read that. Hillarious......

Doesnt sound good for jack
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on May 22, 2014, 05:42:00 PM
Quote from: shaker on May 22, 2014, 09:46:18 AM
Agree that at the moment the cupboard is a bit bare for dangerous small forwards but I think he developing days are over have not seen really any change in him for the last 2 or 3 years but he is far from alone and like I said hoping they can turn it around , this week against GWS it is the Tiges most important game of the year failure will send them back to pre 2013 times

I think if he can just regain his form then not a whole lot of development is needed. It would be great, sure, but when on song I think he's good enough to hold his own at AFL level.

Quote from: kilbluff1985 on May 22, 2014, 04:42:31 PM
i'm way to nervous waiting for Miles to get named

You can pretty much lock him in mate
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on May 22, 2014, 05:58:38 PM
LOL Jack

Several hours after training had finished, the 25-year-old scaled the fence surrounding Punt Road oval, jumped over and sprinted across Punt Road toward Richmond train station with several cameras and journalists in hot pursuit.


Instead of taking the direct route up Stewart Street, Riewoldt took the back streets to throw the media off the scent.


The Tiger even ducked down behind a parked car for a brief period of time, before walking briskly into Richmond station where he was forced to buy a Myki card to catch a train home
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 22, 2014, 06:00:03 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 22, 2014, 05:58:38 PM
LOL Jack

Several hours after training had finished, the 25-year-old scaled the fence surrounding Punt Road oval, jumped over and sprinted across Punt Road toward Richmond train station with several cameras and journalists in hot pursuit.


Instead of taking the direct route up Stewart Street, Riewoldt took the back streets to throw the media off the scent.


The Tiger even ducked down behind a parked car for a brief period of time, before walking briskly into Richmond station where he was forced to buy a Myki card to catch a train home
Such a Jack thing to do omfg  ;D
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 22, 2014, 06:02:31 PM
buy a Jeep
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on May 22, 2014, 06:04:25 PM
Hahaha oh my god those Myki things are flowered.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 22, 2014, 06:06:42 PM
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8)

Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 22, 2014, 06:41:12 PM
flower u tigers

Dimma tanking
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 22, 2014, 06:46:13 PM
I'm really happy to see Matty Dea in, I like the guy.

Tank back also.  8)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: BigMac_93 on May 22, 2014, 06:48:40 PM
Miles not named. Grigg and Vickery stay in the side. Lloyd dropped.

Boy they better perform well this week.

Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Capper on May 22, 2014, 06:53:31 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on May 22, 2014, 06:41:12 PM
flower u tigers

Dimma tanking
Going to pick up another Vickery at the draft
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 22, 2014, 06:53:44 PM
Not sure of the changes tbh.

Really surprised Miles wasn't given a run.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: nickstiges on May 22, 2014, 07:05:03 PM
I seriously don't understand the team, did the match committee not see last week?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 22, 2014, 07:11:19 PM
Okay yeah, we're tanking.

Grigg and Vickery are still in the side, like what the actual flower?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on May 22, 2014, 07:11:41 PM
I reckon Miles is every chance to be a late in if Cotchin's ankle isn't right in time

Seems too bizarre to upgrade him only to be an emergency
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on May 22, 2014, 07:13:00 PM
Miles not in, what a joke.
Lloyd dropped is disappointing, he's been good up forward.
I was hoping O'Hanlon or Helbig came in.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 22, 2014, 07:13:56 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 22, 2014, 07:11:41 PM
I reckon Miles is every chance to be a late in if Cotchin's ankle isn't right in time

Seems too bizarre to upgrade him only to be an emergency
I sense an eleventh hour fitness test for his ankle.

But honestly, he's one of our best players. If he's not going to play or not 100%... don't risk him, just name Miles.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on May 22, 2014, 07:16:06 PM
Cotch is fine, I've heard he trained earlier in the week and was fine.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Capper on May 22, 2014, 07:18:21 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on May 22, 2014, 07:16:06 PM
Cotch is fine, I've heard he trained earlier in the week and was fine.
haha, you sound really nervous. MAybe you should keep saying that Cotch is going to be FINE!!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on May 22, 2014, 07:32:28 PM
Flowering Lloyd dropped what the flowering flower.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: shaker on May 22, 2014, 07:58:28 PM
Lloyd dropped thought he would keep his spot , no Miles ? why elevate him could he be a late in , some of these other players must be on there last chance this week I'm a bit puzzled with the Tiges at the moment  :o
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on May 22, 2014, 07:58:49 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 22, 2014, 07:32:28 PM
Flowering Lloyd dropped what the flowering flower.
flowering +1
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on May 22, 2014, 08:07:28 PM
Quote from: brad on May 22, 2014, 07:58:49 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 22, 2014, 07:32:28 PM
Flowering Lloyd dropped what the flowering flower.
flowering +1
flowering filthy, flower you Dimma >:(
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on May 22, 2014, 08:35:07 PM
Quote from: tabs on May 22, 2014, 07:18:21 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on May 22, 2014, 07:16:06 PM
Cotch is fine, I've heard he trained earlier in the week and was fine.
haha, you sound really nervous. MAybe you should keep saying that Cotch is going to be FINE!!
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_r8pvZUPNybc/S_PxWpJBxBI/AAAAAAAAAAU/Ty6WNPNG39A/s400/BartRocking.jpg)
"Cotch is playing, Cotch is playing, Cotch is playing..."
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on May 22, 2014, 08:35:50 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 22, 2014, 08:07:28 PM
Quote from: brad on May 22, 2014, 07:58:49 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 22, 2014, 07:32:28 PM
Flowering Lloyd dropped what the flowering flower.
flowering +1
flowering filthy, flower you Dimma >:(
I'm quite surprised, half the team should be dropped before him.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on May 22, 2014, 08:44:35 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on May 22, 2014, 08:35:07 PM
Quote from: tabs on May 22, 2014, 07:18:21 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on May 22, 2014, 07:16:06 PM
Cotch is fine, I've heard he trained earlier in the week and was fine.
haha, you sound really nervous. MAybe you should keep saying that Cotch is going to be FINE!!
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_r8pvZUPNybc/S_PxWpJBxBI/AAAAAAAAAAU/Ty6WNPNG39A/s400/BartRocking.jpg)
"Cotch is playing, Cotch is playing, Cotch is playing..."

Hahahahaa! Good call 8)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 22, 2014, 08:45:11 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on May 22, 2014, 08:35:07 PM
Quote from: tabs on May 22, 2014, 07:18:21 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on May 22, 2014, 07:16:06 PM
Cotch is fine, I've heard he trained earlier in the week and was fine.
haha, you sound really nervous. MAybe you should keep saying that Cotch is going to be FINE!!
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_r8pvZUPNybc/S_PxWpJBxBI/AAAAAAAAAAU/Ty6WNPNG39A/s400/BartRocking.jpg)
"Cotch is playing, Cotch is playing, Cotch is playing..."

think we need to make a sacrifice to the SC Gods
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 22, 2014, 08:48:09 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on May 22, 2014, 08:45:11 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on May 22, 2014, 08:35:07 PM
Quote from: tabs on May 22, 2014, 07:18:21 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on May 22, 2014, 07:16:06 PM
Cotch is fine, I've heard he trained earlier in the week and was fine.
haha, you sound really nervous. MAybe you should keep saying that Cotch is going to be FINE!!
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_r8pvZUPNybc/S_PxWpJBxBI/AAAAAAAAAAU/Ty6WNPNG39A/s400/BartRocking.jpg)
"Cotch is playing, Cotch is playing, Cotch is playing..."

think we need to make a sacrifice to the SC Gods
I offer KB's sore arm as tribute.  :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 22, 2014, 08:52:32 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on May 22, 2014, 08:48:09 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on May 22, 2014, 08:45:11 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on May 22, 2014, 08:35:07 PM
Quote from: tabs on May 22, 2014, 07:18:21 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on May 22, 2014, 07:16:06 PM
Cotch is fine, I've heard he trained earlier in the week and was fine.
haha, you sound really nervous. MAybe you should keep saying that Cotch is going to be FINE!!
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_r8pvZUPNybc/S_PxWpJBxBI/AAAAAAAAAAU/Ty6WNPNG39A/s400/BartRocking.jpg)
"Cotch is playing, Cotch is playing, Cotch is playing..."

think we need to make a sacrifice to the SC Gods
I offer KB's sore arm as tribute.  :P

i was thinking blues123
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 22, 2014, 08:54:26 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on May 22, 2014, 08:52:32 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on May 22, 2014, 08:48:09 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on May 22, 2014, 08:45:11 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on May 22, 2014, 08:35:07 PM
Quote from: tabs on May 22, 2014, 07:18:21 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on May 22, 2014, 07:16:06 PM
Cotch is fine, I've heard he trained earlier in the week and was fine.
haha, you sound really nervous. MAybe you should keep saying that Cotch is going to be FINE!!
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_r8pvZUPNybc/S_PxWpJBxBI/AAAAAAAAAAU/Ty6WNPNG39A/s400/BartRocking.jpg)
"Cotch is playing, Cotch is playing, Cotch is playing..."

think we need to make a sacrifice to the SC Gods
I offer KB's sore arm as tribute.  :P

i was thinking blues123
Por que no los dos?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 22, 2014, 08:56:00 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on May 22, 2014, 08:54:26 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on May 22, 2014, 08:52:32 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on May 22, 2014, 08:48:09 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on May 22, 2014, 08:45:11 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on May 22, 2014, 08:35:07 PM
Quote from: tabs on May 22, 2014, 07:18:21 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on May 22, 2014, 07:16:06 PM
Cotch is fine, I've heard he trained earlier in the week and was fine.
haha, you sound really nervous. MAybe you should keep saying that Cotch is going to be FINE!!
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_r8pvZUPNybc/S_PxWpJBxBI/AAAAAAAAAAU/Ty6WNPNG39A/s400/BartRocking.jpg)
"Cotch is playing, Cotch is playing, Cotch is playing..."

think we need to make a sacrifice to the SC Gods
I offer KB's sore arm as tribute.  :P

i was thinking blues123
Por que no los dos?

unos dos tres
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on May 22, 2014, 09:01:47 PM
I am baffled as to how Miles wasn't named  :o
Surely will be a late in? Makes no sense as to why they would upgrade him otherwise.
It's not like he needs to show any more in the 2's, he's averaging 30 possessions a game this year.
Of he wasn't an emergency I would think maybe he has a small injury or something but he is so I have no idea what's going on there.

Aside from him it looks like dimma is backing in the same underperformance blokes. Only one unforced change to the side which is just a kid going out..
Kind of hope we lose so he is forced to make some harsher calls on guys like Grigg, Vickery etc
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Capper on May 22, 2014, 09:08:45 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on May 22, 2014, 07:11:19 PM
Okay yeah, we're tanking.

Grigg and Vickery are still in the side, like what the actual flower?
does this mean you are back on the Tiges and have given the Suns the flick??
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: nickstiges on May 22, 2014, 09:54:47 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on May 22, 2014, 09:01:47 PM
Aside from him it looks like dimma is backing in the same underperformance blokes. Only one unforced change to the side which is just a kid going out..
Kind of hope we lose so he is forced to make some harsher calls on guys like Grigg, Vickery etc

This was the week to make the tough calls following a shock season ending loss, this weekend's game is meaningless for supporters (other than watching Lennon) without changes to the side and forced ones don't count.
Dropping Lloyd is ridiculous it's almost as if he's being blamed for losing us the game against Melbourne.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on May 22, 2014, 10:03:13 PM
Omfg I can't believe we didn't name Miles. And wtf why drop Lloyd? While he wasn't fantastic last week don't think you could ask for a whole lot when it seemed like the delivery was pretty ordinary.

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 22, 2014, 07:11:41 PM
I reckon Miles is every chance to be a late in if Cotchin's ankle isn't right in time

Seems too bizarre to upgrade him only to be an emergency

This is one thing that crossed my mind, and it could be tactical from Dimma if Cotch isn't right to leave it till the last minute to pull him out... Who knows though.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on May 22, 2014, 10:03:14 PM
My fantasy teams hate ya Dimma.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 22, 2014, 11:16:40 PM
Quote from: tabs on May 22, 2014, 09:08:45 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on May 22, 2014, 07:11:19 PM
Okay yeah, we're tanking.

Grigg and Vickery are still in the side, like what the actual flower?
does this mean you are back on the Tiges and have given the Suns the flick??
Have you been dead for the past week?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on May 24, 2014, 03:58:49 PM
Quote from: Noz on May 19, 2014, 09:52:41 PM
Richmond dont have any chance at all this week they will get embarrassed again against the Giants this week and will become the first ever team to loose to Melbourne, Giants and the Suns in the one year.

Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on May 24, 2014, 04:00:40 PM
I think while Richmond are playing much better today , I still think they could've produced the same performance as last week and still beaten GWS by 30+
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: ossie85 on May 24, 2014, 04:08:52 PM
Honestly,  if I was a richmond supporter, this game would annoy me more than the melbourne match
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 24, 2014, 04:10:50 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on May 24, 2014, 04:08:52 PM
Honestly,  if I was a richmond supporter, this game would annoy me more than the melbourne match
May I ask why (think I know why but...)?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: ossie85 on May 24, 2014, 04:12:30 PM
Play really well when it doesn't matter

play badly when it does
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on May 24, 2014, 04:13:35 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on May 24, 2014, 04:08:52 PM
Honestly,  if I was a richmond supporter, this game would annoy me more than the melbourne match

It does.. It's a response though at least and hopefully a confidence boost to roll into the 2nd half of the season.
Not getting carried away, it's GWS and our season is still 90% likely to be over but from the bashing we have copped in the media and internally lately it's good to see them show something.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 24, 2014, 04:16:25 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on May 24, 2014, 04:12:30 PM
Play really well when it doesn't matter

play badly when it does
Yep, thought as much.

As quinny said, it is annoying. But, as he also said - it's a confidence booster and a response at the very least.

It would have been even more annoying had we come out and only won by a couple of goals, or worse... lost.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: ossie85 on May 24, 2014, 04:18:53 PM
I disagree,  reckon this thrashing could give the players a false impression of where they are at
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on May 24, 2014, 04:20:51 PM
I don't think so, GWS has been all over the place since round 3 I think most teams don't really take a whole lot away from it.

This game was more about pressure from outside
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 24, 2014, 04:22:20 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on May 24, 2014, 04:18:53 PM
I disagree,  reckon this thrashing could give the players a false impression of where they are at
I think Dimma will offer the boys a stern reminder that we've just played GWS, that we're still only 3-6 and that he's not gonna be happy unless we win the crucial Dreamtime game next week against a much better club than this week.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on May 24, 2014, 04:43:38 PM
It's funny.. The general consensus was that it was a 50/50 game.. We win by 111 points and all of a sudden "it's only GWS". No one is getting ahead of themselves but it's a win we needed and we did it the best possible way.

The club aren't stupid, they will put the points in the bag and look straight to the dreamtime game
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 24, 2014, 04:51:15 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on May 24, 2014, 04:43:38 PM
It's funny.. The general consensus was that it was a 50/50 game.. We win by 111 points and all of a sudden "it's only GWS". No one is getting ahead of themselves but it's a win we needed and we did it the best possible way.

The club aren't stupid, they will put the points in the bag and look straight to the dreamtime game

but GWS did not turn up Tigers played ok but says much more about GWS then Tigers
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on May 24, 2014, 04:58:02 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on May 24, 2014, 04:51:15 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on May 24, 2014, 04:43:38 PM
It's funny.. The general consensus was that it was a 50/50 game.. We win by 111 points and all of a sudden "it's only GWS". No one is getting ahead of themselves but it's a win we needed and we did it the best possible way.

The club aren't stupid, they will put the points in the bag and look straight to the dreamtime game

but GWS did not turn up Tigers played ok but says much more about GWS then Tigers

Anytime a team wins by 100+ takes a side to play bad and the other to play good. Nothing new there. We were switched on today though from the very start and you could see that
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 24, 2014, 05:05:22 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on May 24, 2014, 04:58:02 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on May 24, 2014, 04:51:15 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on May 24, 2014, 04:43:38 PM
It's funny.. The general consensus was that it was a 50/50 game.. We win by 111 points and all of a sudden "it's only GWS". No one is getting ahead of themselves but it's a win we needed and we did it the best possible way.

The club aren't stupid, they will put the points in the bag and look straight to the dreamtime game

but GWS did not turn up Tigers played ok but says much more about GWS then Tigers

Anytime a team wins by 100+ takes a side to play bad and the other to play good. Nothing new there. We were switched on today though from the very start and you could see that

now just do it again against a half decent team
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on May 24, 2014, 05:19:54 PM
flower yeah boys! Needed that win bad, hopefully gets our season rolling into motion. Still way behind the eight-ball but would love for us to salvage a bit of respect and put in some solid performances to end the year.

Good work fellas, way to show 'em Jack!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Kellogscrunchynut on May 24, 2014, 05:30:05 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on May 24, 2014, 05:05:22 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on May 24, 2014, 04:58:02 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on May 24, 2014, 04:51:15 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on May 24, 2014, 04:43:38 PM
It's funny.. The general consensus was that it was a 50/50 game.. We win by 111 points and all of a sudden "it's only GWS". No one is getting ahead of themselves but it's a win we needed and we did it the best possible way.

The club aren't stupid, they will put the points in the bag and look straight to the dreamtime game

but GWS did not turn up Tigers played ok but says much more about GWS then Tigers

Anytime a team wins by 100+ takes a side to play bad and the other to play good. Nothing new there. We were switched on today though from the very start and you could see that

now just do it again against a half decent team
Last team that we beat by over 100 was Fitzroy does that count  ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: ossie85 on May 24, 2014, 05:32:34 PM
That seriously the last time?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Kellogscrunchynut on May 24, 2014, 05:42:04 PM
Last team we beat GWS 100+ last year.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on May 24, 2014, 06:30:19 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on May 24, 2014, 05:05:22 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on May 24, 2014, 04:58:02 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on May 24, 2014, 04:51:15 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on May 24, 2014, 04:43:38 PM
It's funny.. The general consensus was that it was a 50/50 game.. We win by 111 points and all of a sudden "it's only GWS". No one is getting ahead of themselves but it's a win we needed and we did it the best possible way.

The club aren't stupid, they will put the points in the bag and look straight to the dreamtime game

but GWS did not turn up Tigers played ok but says much more about GWS then Tigers

Anytime a team wins by 100+ takes a side to play bad and the other to play good. Nothing new there. We were switched on today though from the very start and you could see that

now just do it again against a half decent team

Half decent teams don't get beaten by 100 points, that's the thing..
And Richmond aren't a half decent team this year so it's a good win for us
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 24, 2014, 06:34:05 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on May 24, 2014, 06:30:19 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on May 24, 2014, 05:05:22 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on May 24, 2014, 04:58:02 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on May 24, 2014, 04:51:15 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on May 24, 2014, 04:43:38 PM
It's funny.. The general consensus was that it was a 50/50 game.. We win by 111 points and all of a sudden "it's only GWS". No one is getting ahead of themselves but it's a win we needed and we did it the best possible way.

The club aren't stupid, they will put the points in the bag and look straight to the dreamtime game

but GWS did not turn up Tigers played ok but says much more about GWS then Tigers

Anytime a team wins by 100+ takes a side to play bad and the other to play good. Nothing new there. We were switched on today though from the very start and you could see that

now just do it again against a half decent team

Half decent teams don't get beaten by 100 points, that's the thing..
And Richmond aren't a half decent team this year so it's a good win for us

That makes no sense to me
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on May 24, 2014, 06:37:15 PM
What isn't making sense?

We have been useless all year and thumped another team that has been equally as useless.
No one is claiming it's an amazing win but it's a good win for the club and what we needed at this point in the season with all of the low points we've had this year
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 24, 2014, 06:51:56 PM
I was saying now you just need to play well again against a half decent team in  Essendon next week and not get over confident from this game
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on May 24, 2014, 06:57:46 PM
If anything I'd say Richmond needs tonnes of confidence. Go out against Essendon with the mindset that they can come out and destroy them and they just might do well
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 24, 2014, 07:17:54 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on May 24, 2014, 06:51:56 PM
I was saying now you just need to play well again against a half decent team in  Essendon next week and not get over confident from this game
Question for ya KB.

You've been wanting Miles to play all year yeah? If Jackson's out, it would seem rather likely that Miles would come in for him. Our next game is against your mob. Would you rather Miles do well and slaughter your mob in he process (;)) or Essendon win?  :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 24, 2014, 08:40:26 PM
I'll be naming him in BXV he can kill it if he likes  ;D

Edit - Oh didn't read the last words

Um your mean lol
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 24, 2014, 08:49:28 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on May 24, 2014, 08:40:26 PM
I'll be naming him in BXV he can kill it if he likes  ;D

Edit - Oh didn't read the last words

Um your mean lol
:P >:D
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on May 24, 2014, 09:21:06 PM
Haha found this gif on BigFooty.
(http://s22.postimg.org/u8x816t3z/griigg.gif)
That is why he's our whipping boy.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 24, 2014, 09:59:14 PM
Haha, I remember that. Commented on it in the Matchday thread for the game.

Absolutely hopeless.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 24, 2014, 10:41:15 PM
Just a heads up lads, Noz is with us next week!

[22:25] Noz: I believe Richmond will defeat Essendon next saturday night may 31st 2014 by 15 points

;D
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Noz on May 24, 2014, 10:44:43 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on May 24, 2014, 10:41:15 PM
Just a heads up lads, Noz is with us next week!

[22:25] Noz: I believe Richmond will defeat Essendon next saturday night may 31st 2014 by 15 points

;D

Can confirm.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on May 24, 2014, 10:53:11 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on May 24, 2014, 10:41:15 PM
Just a heads up lads, Noz is with us next week!

[22:25] Noz: I believe Richmond will defeat Essendon next saturday night may 31st 2014 by 15 points

;D
:o :o :o
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 24, 2014, 11:04:04 PM
Ivan looks set to play the Dreamtime game.  8)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on May 25, 2014, 12:29:18 AM
Was going to say, if Jackson's injury is serious (looked like a very nasty corky to me) then surely surely surely Miles plays next week!!

Everyone stop hating on Grigg I don't mind him that much. Sounds like he did a pretty good job today tagging Ward, and laid four tackles which is definitely pleasing! (For me at least).

Maric will be a huge in for us if he plays next week.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on May 25, 2014, 12:35:35 AM
If Maric is in I'd back Richmond vs the Bombers. I think that from the games vs GWS and Geelong the Tigers can obviously play like a top 8 side that otherwise has been lacking.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on May 25, 2014, 12:38:04 AM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on May 25, 2014, 12:35:35 AM
If Maric is in I'd back Richmond vs the Bombers. I think that from the games vs GWS and Geelong the Tigers can obviously play like a top 8 side that otherwise has been lacking.

This. Our best is good, but our poor is just shower. If we can find some consistency then we'll be right.

Maric back will be good for the whole team, really think his presence on the field makes such a difference to the boys.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on May 25, 2014, 01:14:40 AM
Maric back coincides with me sending Griffiths and Hampson packing in SC. Its been a fun ride boys!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on May 25, 2014, 03:01:09 AM
Noz?  :o is this the same noz that said we had no chance against GWS??

I knew I liked you
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Capper on May 26, 2014, 07:15:37 PM
How did MAric go in the 2s on the weekend??
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on May 26, 2014, 07:16:17 PM
Quote from: tabs on May 26, 2014, 07:15:37 PM
How did MAric go in the 2s on the weekend??

B.O.G.!!!!!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: nickstiges on May 26, 2014, 07:41:32 PM
41 hits outs 19 disposals and 2 goals pretty impressive.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on May 28, 2014, 02:03:17 PM
Anthony Miles was given a tight tag on the weekend but still managed 19 disposals at 100% efficiency! Please give the man a run!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 28, 2014, 02:07:39 PM
Dimma pls.  :(
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Rusty00 on May 28, 2014, 08:58:05 PM
Hey guys, what's your thoughts on Lennon's JS? He was injured at the start of the year wasn't he?

Guys like Lloyd, Gordon, Arnott, McDonough have been in and out of the team as fringe players. Do we think Lennon is ahead of them all and will be a permanent fixture in the team now he's fully fit?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on May 28, 2014, 09:10:27 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on May 28, 2014, 08:58:05 PM
Hey guys, what's your thoughts on Lennon's JS? He was injured at the start of the year wasn't he?

Guys like Lloyd, Gordon, Arnott, McDonough have been in and out of the team as fringe players. Do we think Lennon is ahead of them all and will be a permanent fixture in the team now he's fully fit?
Yea, ahead of them all.
The only reason why he didn't play at the start of the year was because he was injured.
I would get him in ahead of Cameron, if you can afford him.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on May 28, 2014, 09:32:09 PM
I'm not sure Lennon was assured of a spot at the start of the season even if he was fit like Conca, Ellis, Vlastuin have been the last few years. So he's had to earn his spot in the team which I think is saying something about how he's performed in the VFL which has now transferred into a good start to his AFL career.

His two performances so far this season I would argue have been more solid then Gordon, Arnot & McDonough, with Lloyd coming close to him in terms of composure & effectiveness. But I think Lennon has cemented his spot in the side for the moment and barring a form slump he should retain his spot for a while yet!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: LF on May 28, 2014, 09:33:24 PM
Maric back this week?
Miles in this week?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on May 28, 2014, 09:51:40 PM
Yep, sounds like Maric will be back this week LF. Was BOG in the 2's at the weekend! Not sure who comes out for him though, my guess would be Hampson or Vickery but you never know.

As for Miles - who knows? We all thought he was guaranteed in last week but that didn't happen.. If Jackson doesn't come up (listed as a test) then you'd think you can lock him in, not sure what's the go though.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 28, 2014, 09:51:47 PM
Quote from: luvfooty on May 28, 2014, 09:33:24 PM
Maric back this week?
Miles in this week?

hopefully both
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on May 28, 2014, 09:58:22 PM
I would've said earlier the week that Miles will play, but now Jacko looks as though he's fine.
50/50 on Maric, I wouldn't mind them giving him one more week in the VFL.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 28, 2014, 10:15:55 PM
The Dreamtime game is a big game, Ivan will play imo.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: BigMac_93 on May 29, 2014, 11:58:25 AM
Maric looks set to play but it is a tough call on who goes out. Hampson, Griff and Vickery were all good last week and if one of them went out it would be harsh.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on May 29, 2014, 12:02:36 PM
Apparently Vickery didn't train this morning
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 29, 2014, 12:40:03 PM
I think Ty would be the most logical omission tbh... structure wise. Could drop Hampson though, not sure if that will happen or not.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on May 29, 2014, 12:59:50 PM
I think Hampson would be the more logical omission tbh as I think Vickery is the better forward out of the two (whelp). But he's been rucking fairly well so would be a bit harsh to drop him..
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 29, 2014, 01:10:05 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on May 28, 2014, 09:58:22 PM
I would've said earlier the week that Miles will play, but now Jacko looks as though he's fine.
50/50 on Maric, I wouldn't mind them giving him one more week in the VFL.

Miles :'(
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on May 29, 2014, 01:13:23 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on May 29, 2014, 01:10:05 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on May 28, 2014, 09:58:22 PM
I would've said earlier the week that Miles will play, but now Jacko looks as though he's fine.
50/50 on Maric, I wouldn't mind them giving him one more week in the VFL.

Miles :'(
He's still a chance KB!

http://www.sen.com.au/display-article-2013/Maric-a-strong-change-to-return/65047

2013 Jack Dyer medalist Daniel Jackson looks unlikely to take his place this weekend after he was subbed out against the Giants with a leg injury. The midfielder trained away from the main group on Thursday morning being restricted to only stationery drills.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 29, 2014, 01:15:34 PM
nice Ric cheers
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on May 29, 2014, 01:22:37 PM
Dimma's press conference today said that Jackson was going to be returning to training today and his recovery was going well so far, better than they expected.. No mention of Miles though :(
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on May 29, 2014, 01:57:54 PM
Love that there was no mention of Griff being dropped ;D
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 29, 2014, 01:58:58 PM
Quote from: Toga on May 29, 2014, 12:59:50 PM
I think Hampson would be the more logical omission tbh as I think Vickery is the better forward out of the two (whelp). But he's been rucking fairly well so would be a bit harsh to drop him..
I think it would be best to trial Ivan and Hammer in the same side first, then drop Hammer if it doesn't work out.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: LF on May 29, 2014, 02:08:13 PM
FL #IndigenousRound ‏@AFL  25m
Big Ivan is all but confirmed to return: http://afl.to/1woQsyD
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 29, 2014, 02:12:51 PM
Quote from: luvfooty on May 29, 2014, 02:08:13 PM
FL #IndigenousRound ‏@AFL  25m
Big Ivan is all but confirmed to return: http://afl.to/1woQsyD
8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on May 29, 2014, 04:00:40 PM
Awesome  8)
I think Griff may be the one to miss out, but if Ty is not 100% then he shouldn't play.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 31, 2014, 10:29:59 PM
I have no words.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on May 31, 2014, 10:36:41 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on May 31, 2014, 10:29:59 PM
I have no words.

Why? I thought you supported GC now? ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 31, 2014, 10:37:40 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 31, 2014, 10:36:41 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on May 31, 2014, 10:29:59 PM
I have no words.

Why? I thought you supported GC now? ;)
I think you're stuck in three weeks ago.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on May 31, 2014, 10:40:25 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on May 31, 2014, 10:37:40 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 31, 2014, 10:36:41 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on May 31, 2014, 10:29:59 PM
I have no words.
Why? I thought you supported GC now? ;)
I think you're stuck in three weeks ago.

I'm sorry, its tough to keep up with your back and forth!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 31, 2014, 10:49:33 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 31, 2014, 10:40:25 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on May 31, 2014, 10:37:40 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 31, 2014, 10:36:41 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on May 31, 2014, 10:29:59 PM
I have no words.
Why? I thought you supported GC now? ;)
I think you're stuck in three weeks ago.

I'm sorry, its tough to keep up with your back and forth!
No, I'm sorry for being human and overreacting in the heat of the moment.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on May 31, 2014, 10:54:17 PM
Haha el ;D

But yeah pretty average performance tonight. Thought Rance & Grimes were real positives for us, while Grigg did a great job for most of the match. Maric wasn't great but lets hope a few weeks back and he'll be back rolling at his best. Jack fought well also!

Think McDonough was a bit of a weak link in our backline to be honest, I like him but yeah didn't have a good game I didn't think.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on May 31, 2014, 10:55:31 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on May 31, 2014, 10:49:33 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 31, 2014, 10:40:25 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on May 31, 2014, 10:37:40 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 31, 2014, 10:36:41 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on May 31, 2014, 10:29:59 PM
I have no words.
Why? I thought you supported GC now? ;)
I think you're stuck in three weeks ago.
I'm sorry, its tough to keep up with your back and forth!
No, I'm sorry for being human and overreacting in the heat of the moment.

Haha alright mate, just relax. I wasn't having a go!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 31, 2014, 11:00:15 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 31, 2014, 10:55:31 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on May 31, 2014, 10:49:33 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 31, 2014, 10:40:25 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on May 31, 2014, 10:37:40 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 31, 2014, 10:36:41 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on May 31, 2014, 10:29:59 PM
I have no words.
Why? I thought you supported GC now? ;)
I think you're stuck in three weeks ago.
I'm sorry, its tough to keep up with your back and forth!
No, I'm sorry for being human and overreacting in the heat of the moment.
Haha alright mate, just relax. I wasn't having a go!
Yeah, my bad... not in the greatest mood as you can imagine.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: stew42 on May 31, 2014, 11:00:33 PM
Quote from: Toga on May 31, 2014, 10:54:17 PM
Haha el ;D

But yeah pretty average performance tonight. Thought Rance & Grimes were real positives for us, while Grigg did a great job for most of the match. Maric wasn't great but lets hope a few weeks back and he'll be back rolling at his best. Jack fought well also!

Think McDonough was a bit of a weak link in our backline to be honest, I like him but yeah didn't have a good game I didn't think.
Think that's a tad optimistic. Jack only scored in junk time, Rance made some stupid decisions (turning it over from advantage in opp50), Grimes did alright, but like the rest of the team faded away after HT...

Kinda speaking of which, the thing Richmond are really lacking is tough inside mids. Cotchin is, Thomas is (although he was meant to be a depth player, wasn't he?) but Ellis, Grigg, Conca, Foley, etc aren't. And when Richmond aren't winning, it looks like (from a neutral perspective) that they just won't put in any effort.

\tired rant
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on May 31, 2014, 11:09:44 PM
Jack only kicked junk time goals? Thanks for proving my point :P Jack is getting a bit of a reputation for dropping his head and getting fed up with the delivery sometimes. Yeah Hooker beat him tonight but he didn't give up, as shown by his junk time goals - real footy is not all about fantasy points.

Yep, Rance made some bad skill errors. But what about all the great one-on-ones he won? You can rely on Rance to give 110% week in week out. Grimes I disagree with you about, I think he really stood out for us but hey that's my opinion.

And I agree on the inside mid thing - Thomas has been good but he is just too damn slow for the AFL I think, and Jackson's a bit the same IMO... Conca is an inside mid but we need another one to compliment Cotch. I think what's happened is we've drafted guys like Dusty and Ellis as tough, head over the ball kind of players but their development has seen their outside game improve tenfold and we are now lacking inside - hopefully this is something we can address at this years draft now that it won't be dominated by the expansion clubs at last.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 31, 2014, 11:14:43 PM
surely Miles gets a game now
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on May 31, 2014, 11:18:10 PM
Miles and Arnot are the inside mids that we have and should be using. They both have decent pace as well.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Kellogscrunchynut on May 31, 2014, 11:37:00 PM
Last year we had a bunch of over-performing players now we are paying the price.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on May 31, 2014, 11:39:44 PM
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on May 31, 2014, 11:37:00 PM
Last year we had a bunch of over-performing players now we are paying the price.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Donnie Brasco on May 31, 2014, 11:43:55 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on May 31, 2014, 11:18:10 PM
Miles and Arnot should have been playing weeks ago
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 01, 2014, 10:16:48 AM
Quote from: Donnie Brasco on May 31, 2014, 11:43:55 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on May 31, 2014, 11:18:10 PM
Miles and Arnot should have been playing weeks ago
Arnot was, and got dropped. He had a bad game though the week it happened, and I called it at like quarter time.

I'm hoping he sneaks his way back in soon.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on June 01, 2014, 12:04:54 PM
If Miles doesn't get a game next week, my membership is getting microwaved  :P
Seriously though, what an awful performance.
The only positive was Dusty, he's been sooo good in the last four weeks. Time to give the kids games, Helbig, O'Hanlon and co. need games.
Hampson is a great ruckman, but terrible around the ground, Chappy is still shower, would like to see them both dropped.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 01, 2014, 12:10:24 PM
Can't believe I'm saying it, but Grigg was good yesterday. He wasn't great, but he was good. This tagging thing is working for him.

Hampson or Griffiths will be dropped for Vickery next week, that's for sure. I'm thinking that it's gonna be Hampson actually, just because he does nothing other than get taps.

Miles has to play next week, I don't care who gets dropped.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Donnie Brasco on June 01, 2014, 12:22:43 PM
They have to persist with Griffiths, actually give him a chance and good run at it, the same given to Vickery.

Vickery should have to genuinely earn his spot and be breaking the door down before he plays again.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on June 01, 2014, 12:23:18 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on June 01, 2014, 12:10:24 PM
Can't believe I'm saying it, but Grigg was good yesterday. He wasn't great, but he was good. This tagging thing is working for him.
Yeah, I think Grigg has been good when tagging, hopefully he keeps it up.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 01, 2014, 12:41:40 PM
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-05-31/vfl-tigers-win-dreamtime-clash

Ruckman Orren Stephenson picked up the Sir Doug Nicholls best player award for his standout 20-disposal, 30-hit out, three-goal performance.

Anthony Miles was another contender for the award with a terrific performance that has become standard for the in-form midfielder. He gathered a team-high 35 disposals and always provided an option.

The Tigers lifted after the break and goals to Cadeyn Williams, Ross Young and Aaron Edwards - who finished with four  put Essendon on the back foot.

He was assisted by other hard-bodied ball-winners Brad Helbig (26 disposals) and Matt Arnot (25 disposals) who both found form with impressive performances.

The Tigers didn't release the pressure after the main break. Sharp, smart ball movement, and a barrage of inside 50 entries saw them pile on seven goals and break the game open.

Ty Vickery (21 disposals), Brett O'Hanlon (20) also played their roles well.

Ricky Petterd's influence ensured that Essendon couldn't respond. He entered the game after half time and had an immediate impact with his damaging run and carry. He collected 20 possessions and five clearances.




Highlighted main bits regarding AFL listed players.  :)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on June 01, 2014, 12:45:38 PM
If Miles doesn't get a game this week, Richmond are flowering stupid.

Should have been playing from the start, such a gun.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 01, 2014, 02:10:59 PM
So Terry Wallace just showed his rolling draft which is a rough indicator of who could go where.

He's got us taking Lachie Weller at Pick 6 as it stands, I'd be rapt if that was the case.  8)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on June 01, 2014, 05:11:59 PM
Anywhere I can find that Nige?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 01, 2014, 05:15:57 PM
Quote from: elephants on June 01, 2014, 05:11:59 PM
Anywhere I can find that Nige?
Not sure whether they publish it online anywhere mate, sorry.

Only saw it on the TV while watching TAC Cup Future Stars.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on June 01, 2014, 05:17:42 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on June 01, 2014, 05:15:57 PM
Quote from: elephants on June 01, 2014, 05:11:59 PM
Anywhere I can find that Nige?
Not sure whether they publish it online anywhere mate, sorry.

Only saw it on the TV while watching TAC Cup Future Stars.

Ah ok, no dramas! Wonder who we'll grab.. Hopefully a quick mid!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 01, 2014, 05:23:41 PM
Quote from: elephants on June 01, 2014, 05:17:42 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on June 01, 2014, 05:15:57 PM
Quote from: elephants on June 01, 2014, 05:11:59 PM
Anywhere I can find that Nige?
Not sure whether they publish it online anywhere mate, sorry.

Only saw it on the TV while watching TAC Cup Future Stars.

Ah ok, no dramas! Wonder who we'll grab.. Hopefully a quick mid!
I think he had you guys grabbing Clem Smith. Only showed the top 10 I think.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on June 01, 2014, 05:25:00 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on June 01, 2014, 05:23:41 PM
Quote from: elephants on June 01, 2014, 05:17:42 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on June 01, 2014, 05:15:57 PM
Quote from: elephants on June 01, 2014, 05:11:59 PM
Anywhere I can find that Nige?
Not sure whether they publish it online anywhere mate, sorry.

Only saw it on the TV while watching TAC Cup Future Stars.

Ah ok, no dramas! Wonder who we'll grab.. Hopefully a quick mid!
I think he had you guys grabbing Clem Smith. Only showed the top 10 I think.

Biiiig fan, with Bennell we don't have a huge need for Clem any more but who knows, Bennell could be an amazing mentor for the kid...
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on June 01, 2014, 07:11:20 PM
I'd like to see Hampson for Vickery, Thomas for Miles and McDonough for Az Edwards this week.

Seriously though, if Miles doesn't get a game I really don't know what else he can do..
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 02, 2014, 01:03:17 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on June 01, 2014, 05:23:41 PM
Quote from: elephants on June 01, 2014, 05:17:42 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on June 01, 2014, 05:15:57 PM
Quote from: elephants on June 01, 2014, 05:11:59 PM
Anywhere I can find that Nige?
Not sure whether they publish it online anywhere mate, sorry.

Only saw it on the TV while watching TAC Cup Future Stars.

Ah ok, no dramas! Wonder who we'll grab.. Hopefully a quick mid!
I think he had you guys grabbing Clem Smith. Only showed the top 10 I think.
Just out of Curiosity who did he have us grabbing - trust it was one of the 2 Tall forwards that are likely to go Top 15.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 02, 2014, 02:29:16 PM
Quote from: Ringo on June 02, 2014, 01:03:17 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on June 01, 2014, 05:23:41 PM
Quote from: elephants on June 01, 2014, 05:17:42 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on June 01, 2014, 05:15:57 PM
Quote from: elephants on June 01, 2014, 05:11:59 PM
Anywhere I can find that Nige?
Not sure whether they publish it online anywhere mate, sorry.

Only saw it on the TV while watching TAC Cup Future Stars.

Ah ok, no dramas! Wonder who we'll grab.. Hopefully a quick mid!
I think he had you guys grabbing Clem Smith. Only showed the top 10 I think.
Just out of Curiosity who did he have us grabbing - trust it was one of the 2 Tall forwards that are likely to go Top 15.
If I remember correctly, Pat McCartin.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on June 02, 2014, 05:00:19 PM
Our players obviously felt that it was just going to happen this year but it hasn't. When things are going bad you really find out who the players are that you want playing for you and the type of players you need to bring in.

What I now know and im sure the coaches do too is that we need pace, we need a secondary consistent key forward to help Jack and we need a small/medium classy half forward.

Lids is our quickest player, but he is also the oppositions number 1 tagging target. Our guys that play on our wings or off the flanks and dont cop heavy attention are slow ie. Grigg, Jackson. You need these guys to be damaging. Polec and Matty White spring to mind from Port. Hopefully we target some pace in the off season.
For the small/medium forward. Robbie Gray or Lecras will do fine  8)
And for the 2nd tall forward.. Maybe we can over ride buddys contract and offer him 20 mill for 20 years
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 02, 2014, 06:16:23 PM
Anthony Miles appears likely to FINALLY make his debut against North Melbourne this week. Brett O'Hanlon is also pushing for selection after a superb game in the VFL.

;D


Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on June 02, 2014, 06:18:43 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on June 02, 2014, 06:16:23 PM
Anthony Miles appears likely to FINALLY make his debut against North Melbourne this week. Brett O'Hanlon is also pushing for selection after a superb game in the VFL.

;D

sure he is  ::)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 02, 2014, 06:32:33 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 02, 2014, 06:18:43 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on June 02, 2014, 06:16:23 PM
Anthony Miles appears likely to FINALLY make his debut against North Melbourne this week. Brett O'Hanlon is also pushing for selection after a superb game in the VFL.

;D

sure he is  ::)
Put it this way... if he doesn't, I'll start a petition.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on June 02, 2014, 09:49:37 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on June 02, 2014, 05:00:19 PM
For the small/medium forward. Robbie Gray or Lecras will do fine  8)

lol, back the fuuck up.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on June 03, 2014, 12:19:13 AM
Quote from: elephants on June 02, 2014, 09:49:37 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on June 02, 2014, 05:00:19 PM
For the small/medium forward. Robbie Gray or Lecras will do fine  8)

lol, back the fuuck up.

hey its called sharing. We gave you Oakley-Nicholls a few years back  ;D
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on June 03, 2014, 12:45:02 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on June 03, 2014, 12:19:13 AM
Quote from: elephants on June 02, 2014, 09:49:37 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on June 02, 2014, 05:00:19 PM
For the small/medium forward. Robbie Gray or Lecras will do fine  8)

lol, back the fuuck up.

hey its called sharing. We gave you Oakley-Nicholls a few years back  ;D

Haha you may as well take Lecca for free! JON was such a top signing, we really owe you! :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 03, 2014, 09:54:10 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on June 02, 2014, 05:00:19 PM
And for the 2nd tall forward.. Maybe we can over ride buddys contract and offer him 20 mill for 20 years
No thanks.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on June 03, 2014, 01:58:27 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on June 03, 2014, 09:54:10 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on June 02, 2014, 05:00:19 PM
And for the 2nd tall forward.. Maybe we can over ride buddys contract and offer him 20 mill for 20 years
No thanks.

Gotta be better than watching Vickery pretend to be an AFL footballer lol
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 03, 2014, 02:01:35 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on June 03, 2014, 01:58:27 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on June 03, 2014, 09:54:10 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on June 02, 2014, 05:00:19 PM
And for the 2nd tall forward.. Maybe we can over ride buddys contract and offer him 20 mill for 20 years
No thanks.

Gotta be better than watching Vickery pretend to be an AFL footballer lol
Ty > Buddy.  ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on June 03, 2014, 03:59:01 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on June 03, 2014, 02:01:35 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on June 03, 2014, 01:58:27 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on June 03, 2014, 09:54:10 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on June 02, 2014, 05:00:19 PM
And for the 2nd tall forward.. Maybe we can over ride buddys contract and offer him 20 mill for 20 years
No thanks.

Gotta be better than watching Vickery pretend to be an AFL footballer lol
Ty > Buddy.  ;)

haha come on now
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on June 03, 2014, 06:02:00 PM
Vlas is back  :D
@Richmond_FC: VIDEO: Good news! @nickvlastuin has been given the all clear from the doc to return this week http://t.co/yLTG7RleGB http://t.co/An1u9VzO2g
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on June 03, 2014, 06:06:35 PM
Awesome. Does this put more doubt over a Miles debut though?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 03, 2014, 06:15:30 PM
Quote from: Toga on June 03, 2014, 06:06:35 PM
Awesome. Does this put more doubt over a Miles debut though?
Sadly, yes.  :( ::)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on June 03, 2014, 07:32:59 PM
Oh flower off Richmond. Play the kid.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ziplock on June 03, 2014, 08:23:46 PM
Quote from: Vinny on June 03, 2014, 07:32:59 PM
Oh flower off Richmond. Play the kid.

Well, something needs to change.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Donnie Brasco on June 03, 2014, 09:18:50 PM
What's the latest on Lloyd, is he any chance to return this week?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on June 03, 2014, 10:02:12 PM
Miles will play
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on June 03, 2014, 10:03:59 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on June 03, 2014, 10:02:12 PM
Miles will play

you said that vs GWS ::)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on June 03, 2014, 11:39:41 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 03, 2014, 10:03:59 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on June 03, 2014, 10:02:12 PM
Miles will play
you said that vs GWS ::)

Sorry to disappoint mate but Quinny isn't on the Tigers selection panel. I wasn't aware you didn't know that.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on June 03, 2014, 11:44:47 PM
Quote from: elephants on June 03, 2014, 11:39:41 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 03, 2014, 10:03:59 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on June 03, 2014, 10:02:12 PM
Miles will play
you said that vs GWS ::)

Sorry to disappoint mate but Quinny isn't on the Tigers selection panel. I wasn't aware you didn't know that.

Quinny y u do dis
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on June 04, 2014, 03:07:59 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 03, 2014, 11:44:47 PM
Quote from: elephants on June 03, 2014, 11:39:41 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 03, 2014, 10:03:59 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on June 03, 2014, 10:02:12 PM
Miles will play
you said that vs GWS ::)

Sorry to disappoint mate but Quinny isn't on the Tigers selection panel. I wasn't aware you didn't know that.

Quinny y u do dis

haha sorry KB I lied :P
Nah I honestly thought he was a shoe in. Who elevates someone to the senior list thats been averaging 30 possessions a game, on the exact week they play their old side.. then doesnt play them??  :o

If he doesnt play this week ill change my DP to something of your choice KB ;)
Say it before selection though haha
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on June 04, 2014, 09:44:19 AM
Well they had to elevate him because he was an emergency. Means he was really really close.

If he doesn't play soon though, it makes you wonder whether there are still some deficiencies in his game that he needs to work out. Might also be the reason he didn't get many games at GWS.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on June 04, 2014, 10:24:16 AM
It's pretty well publicised that he has needed to work on his disposal, and he even admitted this in his interview with Richo after he was elevated. But two weeks ago when he was tagged he still had 19 disposals and operated at 100% efficiency so not sure what it is at the moment.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on June 04, 2014, 10:26:50 AM
Yeh and also thought maybe defensively he might not be there yet. But wouldn't have a clue tbh, it just got me wondering.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on June 04, 2014, 04:45:35 PM
Just had a look at the article about the GWS players that come out of contract at the end of the season, I think Devon Smith is someone we should really have a look at poaching, certainly the kind of player we could use.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: stew42 on June 04, 2014, 04:56:17 PM
You don't deserve good players after what you've done with Miles :P

*bit of sarcasm there*
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 04, 2014, 05:50:01 PM
Quote from: Toga on June 04, 2014, 04:45:35 PM
Just had a look at the article about the GWS players that come out of contract at the end of the season, I think Devon Smith is someone we should really have a look at poaching, certainly the kind of player we could use.
I reckon he's been one of their best from day dot. I don't think they'll give him up easily, if at all.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on June 04, 2014, 05:54:56 PM
He's outta contract though so, as we saw with Brisbane last year, negotiations can't be completely dictated by them. I know he wouldn't be cheap but he's the kind of damaging small forward that our team is lacking at the moment.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 04, 2014, 05:59:19 PM
Quote from: Toga on June 04, 2014, 05:54:56 PM
He's outta contract though so, as we saw with Brisbane last year, negotiations can't be completely dictated by them. I know he wouldn't be cheap but he's the kind of damaging small forward that our team is lacking at the moment.
Hopefully the recruiting team decides to make a play then.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on June 04, 2014, 06:01:00 PM
I wonder if they'd entertain the idea of grabbing ROK for a year to add a bit more grunt in the middle and leadership to the group
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on June 04, 2014, 10:38:59 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 04, 2014, 06:01:00 PM
I wonder if they'd entertain the idea of grabbing ROK for a year to add a bit more grunt in the middle and leadership to the group

Richmond? I dont think we would.
We have certainly drafted recycled players in recent years but only ones for specific roles and all younger guys.
ROK is 33, someone that is pushing for a flag will snatch him up for a year
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on June 04, 2014, 10:40:25 PM
i think he meant GWS?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 04, 2014, 10:52:52 PM
Richo's been inducted into the hall of fame.  8)

#champion
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on June 04, 2014, 11:02:14 PM
Great to hear, well deserved :)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on June 04, 2014, 11:21:07 PM
since it's a Sunday game will be such a tease if Miles is in the 25 man squad but still dropped
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on June 04, 2014, 11:26:45 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on June 04, 2014, 10:38:59 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 04, 2014, 06:01:00 PM
I wonder if they'd entertain the idea of grabbing ROK for a year to add a bit more grunt in the middle and leadership to the group

Richmond? I dont think we would.
We have certainly drafted recycled players in recent years but only ones for specific roles and all younger guys.
ROK is 33, someone that is pushing for a flag will snatch him up for a year
Yeh. Was just thinking about it today. You should be pushing for a flag tbh. You look like a long way off it atm but last year you were there abouts. Not sure the ROK idea was a good one but he could add a bit to the squad even if only for a year
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Donnie Brasco on June 05, 2014, 09:07:51 AM
Richo!

Number 12 on the back forever...
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on June 05, 2014, 03:35:21 PM
Quote from: Donnie Brasco on June 05, 2014, 09:07:51 AM
Richo!

Number 12 on the back forever...

Still one of my favourite memories of going to the footy at the MCG was the roar every time Richo went near the ball.

Especially from the 'grog squad' behind the punt road end goals

That chant was infectious
"RICHO, RICHO MAN! I WANT TO BE A RICHO MAN!"
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 05, 2014, 04:16:30 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on June 05, 2014, 03:35:21 PM
Quote from: Donnie Brasco on June 05, 2014, 09:07:51 AM
Richo!

Number 12 on the back forever...

Still one of my favourite memories of going to the footy at the MCG was the roar every time Richo went near the ball.

Especially from the 'grog squad' behind the punt road end goals

That chant was infectious
"RICHO, RICHO MAN! I WANT TO BE A RICHO MAN!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyowUKWvtP4

Absolute classic.  ;D
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on June 05, 2014, 04:26:49 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on June 05, 2014, 03:35:21 PM
Quote from: Donnie Brasco on June 05, 2014, 09:07:51 AM
Richo!

Number 12 on the back forever...

Still one of my favourite memories of going to the footy at the MCG was the roar every time Richo went near the ball.

Especially from the 'grog squad' behind the punt road end goals

That chant was infectious
"RICHO, RICHO MAN! I WANT TO BE A RICHO MAN!"
The best, we'd lose every week, but Richo would still make the footy enjoyable, absolute champion.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on June 05, 2014, 06:47:26 PM
About flowering time, Miles is named!
IN: Jake Batchelor, Ricky Petterd, Anthony Miles, Ty Vickery, Nick Vlastuin, Brad Helbig, Brett O'Hanlon
OUT: Dylan Grimes (Toe), Shaun Grigg (Hamstring), Daniel Jackson (Hip), Reece Conca (Groin)

Bench is:
36 Matt McDonough
41 Nathan Foley
26 Anthony Miles
29 Ty Vickery
31 Nick Vlastuin
32 Brad Helbig
45 Brett O'Hanlon

So three to come out.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 05, 2014, 06:49:27 PM
If we're choosing from that bench.

Helbig, O'Hanlon will probably get chopped and I'm worried that Miles might be the other.  :-X

Interesting outs though.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on June 05, 2014, 06:52:11 PM
I'm hoping we go with
Int: Miles, Vlastuin, Helbig, BOH
Emg: Vickery, Foley, McDonough

Helbig, BOH, Miles and Batchelor have been in good form in the VFL, so good to see them rewarded.

EDITL wouldn't mind if dropped Hammer and brought in Ty, tbh.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on June 05, 2014, 06:57:25 PM
guess who's in KB :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 05, 2014, 06:58:19 PM
Totally agree.

Dropping Hammer for Ty would work.

I actually would probably prefer BOH, Ty, Miles and Flossy.

Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on June 05, 2014, 08:14:02 PM
Quote from: brad on June 05, 2014, 06:57:25 PM
guess who's in KB :P

pfff

25 man squad such a tease
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on June 05, 2014, 09:21:52 PM
Batchelor will come in for Grimes, and the only way Vickery would come in is if Hampson or Griffiths were dropped. Otherwise we'll be too tall.

Losing Conca & Jackson though, we'll definitely be bringing in two inside mids for those two IMO, meaning it's likely that Miles & Helbig will come in I think. We've been weak on the inside as is so don't think we can lose those two without adding some inside grunt.

Think it will be cut to Vlastuin, Miles, Helbig and one of Petterd/McDonough/O'Hanlon
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Noz on June 05, 2014, 10:21:43 PM
I suppose 4 changes is enough i mean if Hardwick omits the entire team and puts them on the injury list with the description being "missing heart and courage" questions would be raised.

I suppose wizard of oz is basically the life of a richmond footballer.

Tinman needed a heart - every richmond player
Scarecrow needed a brain - richmond coaching staff
Lion needed a brain - every richmond player

Kind of spooky actually when you think about it.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on June 05, 2014, 10:23:57 PM
Quote from: Toga on June 05, 2014, 09:21:52 PM
Batchelor will come in for Grimes, and the only way Vickery would come in is if Hampson or Griffiths were dropped. Otherwise we'll be too tall.

Losing Conca & Jackson though, we'll definitely be bringing in two inside mids for those two IMO, meaning it's likely that Miles & Helbig will come in I think. We've been weak on the inside as is so don't think we can lose those two without adding some inside grunt.

Think it will be cut to Vlastuin, Miles, Helbig and one of Petterd/McDonough/O'Hanlon

Did you just say Miles is not an inside mid?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 05, 2014, 10:26:44 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 05, 2014, 10:23:57 PM
Quote from: Toga on June 05, 2014, 09:21:52 PM
Batchelor will come in for Grimes, and the only way Vickery would come in is if Hampson or Griffiths were dropped. Otherwise we'll be too tall.

Losing Conca & Jackson though, we'll definitely be bringing in two inside mids for those two IMO, meaning it's likely that Miles & Helbig will come in I think. We've been weak on the inside as is so don't think we can lose those two without adding some inside grunt.

Think it will be cut to Vlastuin, Miles, Helbig and one of Petterd/McDonough/O'Hanlon

Did you just say Miles is not an inside mid?
Read again champ.  ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on June 05, 2014, 10:30:02 PM
Yeah I misread thought it was strange lol
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on June 05, 2014, 11:19:55 PM
Quote from: Noz on June 05, 2014, 10:21:43 PM
I suppose 4 changes is enough i mean if Hardwick omits the entire team and puts them on the injury list with the description being "missing heart and courage" questions would be raised.

I suppose wizard of oz is basically the life of a richmond footballer.

Tinman needed a heart - every richmond player
Scarecrow needed a brain - richmond coaching staff
Lion needed a brain - every richmond player

Kind of spooky actually when you think about it.

*Bzzt*, fail.

Lion needed courage, unlucky mate ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on June 05, 2014, 11:51:42 PM
Quote from: elephants on June 05, 2014, 11:19:55 PM
Quote from: Noz on June 05, 2014, 10:21:43 PM
I suppose 4 changes is enough i mean if Hardwick omits the entire team and puts them on the injury list with the description being "missing heart and courage" questions would be raised.

I suppose wizard of oz is basically the life of a richmond footballer.

Tinman needed a heart - every richmond player
Scarecrow needed a brain - richmond coaching staff
Lion needed a brain - every richmond player

Kind of spooky actually when you think about it.

*Bzzt*, fail.

Lion needed courage, unlucky mate ;)

Ironic that hes bagging people for not having a brain and gets the punch line wrong  ::)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on June 06, 2014, 10:26:30 AM
Quote from: Toga on June 05, 2014, 09:21:52 PM
Batchelor will come in for Grimes, and the only way Vickery would come in is if Hampson or Griffiths were dropped. Otherwise we'll be too tall.

Losing Conca & Jackson though, we'll definitely be bringing in two inside mids for those two IMO, meaning it's likely that Miles & Helbig will come in I think. We've been weak on the inside as is so don't think we can lose those two without adding some inside grunt.

Think it will be cut to Vlastuin, Miles, Helbig and one of Petterd/McDonough/O'Hanlon
Yeah, I agree with you there. Although I'd rather see Vlastuin in the midfield then down back, so I think he'll get first crack.
Petterd is already on the field of 18, so I think he's locked in.
I really want to see BOH play.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on June 06, 2014, 01:38:26 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on June 06, 2014, 10:26:30 AM
Quote from: Toga on June 05, 2014, 09:21:52 PM
Batchelor will come in for Grimes, and the only way Vickery would come in is if Hampson or Griffiths were dropped. Otherwise we'll be too tall.

Losing Conca & Jackson though, we'll definitely be bringing in two inside mids for those two IMO, meaning it's likely that Miles & Helbig will come in I think. We've been weak on the inside as is so don't think we can lose those two without adding some inside grunt.

Think it will be cut to Vlastuin, Miles, Helbig and one of Petterd/McDonough/O'Hanlon
Yeah, I agree with you there. Although I'd rather see Vlastuin in the midfield then down back, so I think he'll get first crack.
Petterd is already on the field of 18, so I think he's locked in.
I really want to see BOH play.

if he gets in over Miles i swear to god there will be hell to pay
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on June 06, 2014, 05:21:01 PM
Miles is in ;D
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 06, 2014, 05:22:49 PM
Petterd, Vickery, Miles, Batchelor, Vlastuin in for Jackson, Grigg, Hampson, Grimes, Conca.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on June 06, 2014, 06:01:02 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 06, 2014, 05:21:01 PM
Miles is in ;D
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on June 06, 2014, 06:26:02 PM
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Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: nickstiges on June 06, 2014, 06:28:21 PM
MILES!!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on June 06, 2014, 06:29:26 PM
Vlastuin a likely sub coming back from injury?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on June 06, 2014, 06:31:54 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 06, 2014, 06:29:26 PM
Vlastuin a likely sub coming back from injury?
It will probably be Foley, or even Miles  :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on June 06, 2014, 06:35:17 PM
Staying in and watching it this week just so I can press red for Kev  8)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on June 06, 2014, 06:36:09 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on June 06, 2014, 06:31:54 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 06, 2014, 06:29:26 PM
Vlastuin a likely sub coming back from injury?
It will probably be Foley, or even Miles  :P

don't even JROO >:(
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on June 06, 2014, 08:51:30 PM
YES! :D

Thinking Foles will be sub again, but you never know.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Donnie Brasco on June 07, 2014, 08:37:04 AM
Love KB, will be pressing red.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 08, 2014, 09:58:26 PM
A tale of two halves.

That's it.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: BigMac_93 on June 08, 2014, 10:03:20 PM
Once again the opposition get a run on and we look hopeless to stop it.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Donnie Brasco on June 08, 2014, 11:42:53 PM
Every ...... time!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on June 08, 2014, 11:44:55 PM
Yuuuck Tiges!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 09, 2014, 07:21:23 AM

Stopped watching at half time, thinking yes! I might win tipping this week! Tipped the Tigers!

But I didn't realise the Tigers would also stop at half time.

Hardwick has to be on thin ice.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on June 09, 2014, 09:50:32 AM
From an outsider what seems most disappointing is the underperformance of your big time players when times get tough.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on June 09, 2014, 01:03:16 PM
We got flowered by the umpires it was unbelievable.
Dusty was incredible in the first half, shame he couldn't keep it up, but there's some positive signs.
Miles is a gun, should've been playing from round one.
We were pretty unlucky, Petrie and Goldy have down flower all, all year but decide to turn up last night.
Cotch didn't look 100%, I saw him in the bench a lot getting attention.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Donnie Brasco on June 09, 2014, 01:07:05 PM
Who might be interested in Vickery?

Doggies? Brisbane?

He's still quite young, just turned 24, top ten draft pick...
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on June 09, 2014, 01:08:35 PM
Blues maybe? Dees?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on June 09, 2014, 01:15:11 PM
wheres he from originally?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on June 09, 2014, 01:15:55 PM
The third quarter is on Fox Footy now, the Roos have got about 10 frees to 1 and all of those were in front of goal.
They got the Roos back in the game, if we just came out and kicked the first goal we would've been fine.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 09, 2014, 01:16:39 PM
Pies would take Vickery,  turn him into a star like White and L Brown
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on June 09, 2014, 01:18:04 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 09, 2014, 01:16:39 PM
Pies would take Vickery,  turn him into a star like White and L Brown
A forward line with Cloke and Vickery, now that would be interesting to watch  :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on June 09, 2014, 01:19:27 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 09, 2014, 01:15:11 PM
wheres he from originally?

He was recruited from Sandringham so he's a local. Dunno if there's much point in us trading him, probably wouldn't get enough for him to make it worthwhile.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 09, 2014, 01:20:06 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on June 09, 2014, 01:18:04 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 09, 2014, 01:16:39 PM
Pies would take Vickery,  turn him into a star like White and L Brown
A forward line with Cloke and Vickery, now that would be interesting to watch  :P

A bit like Vickery and Riewoldt,  except they'd play in September :p
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on June 09, 2014, 01:23:41 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 09, 2014, 01:20:06 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on June 09, 2014, 01:18:04 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 09, 2014, 01:16:39 PM
Pies would take Vickery,  turn him into a star like White and L Brown
A forward line with Cloke and Vickery, now that would be interesting to watch  :P

A bit like Vickery and Riewoldt,  except they'd play in September :p
Haha, ouch.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on June 09, 2014, 01:23:58 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 09, 2014, 01:20:06 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on June 09, 2014, 01:18:04 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 09, 2014, 01:16:39 PM
Pies would take Vickery,  turn him into a star like White and L Brown
A forward line with Cloke and Vickery, now that would be interesting to watch  :P

A bit like Vickery and Riewoldt,  except they'd play in September :p
hahahaha
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 09, 2014, 01:31:21 PM
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Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Mat0369 on June 09, 2014, 01:45:59 PM
Quote from: elephants on June 09, 2014, 01:08:35 PM
Blues maybe? Dees?

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Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on June 09, 2014, 01:58:27 PM
Vickery-Casboult would have to be the least scary forward line in the league!? ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Mat0369 on June 09, 2014, 02:07:18 PM
Quote from: elephants on June 09, 2014, 01:58:27 PM
Vickery-Casboult would have to be the least scary forward line in the league!? ;)

At least Levi can take a grab  :P

Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Master Q on June 09, 2014, 03:39:13 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on June 09, 2014, 02:07:18 PM
Quote from: elephants on June 09, 2014, 01:58:27 PM
Vickery-Casboult would have to be the least scary forward line in the league!? ;)

At least Levi has potential :P
Fixed that for you Mat.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on June 09, 2014, 04:39:03 PM
Vickery to Carlton? Yeah flower off. :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on June 09, 2014, 04:40:12 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 09, 2014, 01:16:39 PM
Pies would take Vickery,  turn him into a star like White and L Brown

"star" is a very subjective term
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on June 09, 2014, 04:44:17 PM
Ty Vickery offered a three match ban for striking Michael Firrito, down to two with an early plea.

Matt Thomas offered a one match suspension for engaging in rough conduct against Brent Harvey.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on June 09, 2014, 04:45:11 PM
Vickery haha spas.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 09, 2014, 04:46:46 PM
Quote from: Toga on June 09, 2014, 04:44:17 PM
Ty Vickery offered a three match ban for striking Michael Firrito, down to two with an early plea.

Matt Thomas offered a one match suspension for engaging in rough conduct against Brent Harvey.
Whelp.

Hopefully O'Hanlon and Helbig/Arnot come in for them then.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on June 09, 2014, 04:55:57 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on June 09, 2014, 04:46:46 PM
Quote from: Toga on June 09, 2014, 04:44:17 PM
Ty Vickery offered a three match ban for striking Michael Firrito, down to two with an early plea.

Matt Thomas offered a one match suspension for engaging in rough conduct against Brent Harvey.
Whelp.

Hopefully O'Hanlon and Helbig/Arnot come in for them then.
Not massive loses.
They seem like the logical replacements.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on June 09, 2014, 05:00:19 PM
Quote from: Vinny on June 09, 2014, 04:39:03 PM
Vickery to Carlton? Yeah flower off. :P

I can see it now, Cloke-Levi-Vickers. What an FF line. ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on June 09, 2014, 05:07:59 PM
Quote from: elephants on June 09, 2014, 05:00:19 PM
Quote from: Vinny on June 09, 2014, 04:39:03 PM
Vickery to Carlton? Yeah flower off. :P

I can see it now, Cloke-Levi-Vickers. What an FF line. ;)
I'd have to kill myself. :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 09, 2014, 05:45:50 PM
Not to have a shot,  but hasn't Riewoldt kicked 17 goals in the last 3 weeks. ... and each essentially meaningless?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on June 09, 2014, 06:01:48 PM
What do you mean by essentially meaningless Oz? A goal is a goal, someone has to kick them :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 09, 2014, 06:02:32 PM
The 11 vs GWS helped us win that game...  :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Mat0369 on June 09, 2014, 06:09:06 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 09, 2014, 05:45:50 PM
Not to have a shot,  but hasn't Riewoldt kicked 17 goals in the last 3 weeks. ... and each essentially meaningless?

Junktime Jack
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on June 09, 2014, 06:18:13 PM
Jack can't win, he kicks goals he gets bagged.
He doesn't kick goals he gets bagged.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on June 09, 2014, 06:23:12 PM
Hahaha true
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: roo boys! on June 09, 2014, 06:27:42 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on June 09, 2014, 04:55:57 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on June 09, 2014, 04:46:46 PM
Quote from: Toga on June 09, 2014, 04:44:17 PM
Ty Vickery offered a three match ban for striking Michael Firrito, down to two with an early plea.

Matt Thomas offered a one match suspension for engaging in rough conduct against Brent Harvey.
Whelp.

Hopefully O'Hanlon and Helbig/Arnot come in for them then.
Not massive loses.
They seem like the logical replacements.
Like someone said on the NMFC facebook page this morning, would be more of a punishment to force Richmond to play Vickery for the next 3 weeks rather than let them off easy and suspend him :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on June 09, 2014, 06:48:42 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on June 09, 2014, 06:18:13 PM
Jack can't win, he kicks goals he gets bagged.
He doesn't kick goals he gets bagged.

Spot on!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 09, 2014, 06:52:57 PM
Quote from: Toga on June 09, 2014, 06:48:42 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on June 09, 2014, 06:18:13 PM
Jack can't win, he kicks goals he gets bagged.
He doesn't kick goals he gets bagged.

Spot on!
Nailed it.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 10, 2014, 06:45:10 AM
Quote from: Toga on June 09, 2014, 06:01:48 PM
What do you mean by essentially meaningless Oz? A goal is a goal, someone has to kick them :P

Giants were terrible,  those 11 goals meant nothing really

Kicked the other 6 in the final quarters of Essendon and North when the game was over
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Rusty00 on June 10, 2014, 07:32:57 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 10, 2014, 06:45:10 AM
Quote from: Toga on June 09, 2014, 06:01:48 PM
What do you mean by essentially meaningless Oz? A goal is a goal, someone has to kick them :P

Giants were terrible,  those 11 goals meant nothing really

Kicked the other 6 in the final quarters of Essendon and North when the game was over
At least he kept trying till the end unlike many of his teammates.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on June 10, 2014, 09:44:01 AM
Does that say more about Jack or his teammates getting him the ball.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: nickstiges on June 10, 2014, 10:36:02 AM
Quote from: JROO8 on June 09, 2014, 06:18:13 PM
Jack can't win, he kicks goals he gets bagged.
He doesn't kick goals he gets bagged.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on June 10, 2014, 10:56:26 AM
Yeah, fair enough Oz and you're not the first person that has said that, but I don't really agree in this situation. Rusty sums up my thoughts on it:

Quote from: Rusty00 on June 10, 2014, 07:32:57 AM
At least he kept trying till the end unlike many of his teammates.

And regardless, as Jroo said it doesn't matter what Jack does he will get bagged so there's not that much point in defending him :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on June 10, 2014, 12:57:22 PM
It's really silly IMO to say Jack Riewoldt's goals didn't matter because then in perspective:

1. None of Travis Cloke's goals this entire season have mattered.
2. Chad Wingard's mark didn't matter.
3. Roughead's goals didn't matter, or any forward who kicked goals against a weaker team or when the game was over
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ziplock on June 10, 2014, 01:08:04 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on June 10, 2014, 12:57:22 PM
It's really silly IMO to say Jack Riewoldt's goals didn't matter because then in perspective:

1. None of Travis Cloke's goals this entire season have mattered.
2. Chad Wingard's mark didn't matter.
3. Roughead's goals didn't matter, or any forward who kicked goals against a weaker team or when the game was over


Nothing Cameron kicked last year mattered at all.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on June 10, 2014, 01:11:24 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on June 10, 2014, 01:08:04 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on June 10, 2014, 12:57:22 PM
It's really silly IMO to say Jack Riewoldt's goals didn't matter because then in perspective:

1. None of Travis Cloke's goals this entire season have mattered.
2. Chad Wingard's mark didn't matter.
3. Roughead's goals didn't matter, or any forward who kicked goals against a weaker team or when the game was over


Nothing Cameron kicked last year mattered at all.

Exactly, Jeremy Cameron isn't a star of the future, he's only kicked about 20 goals that have mattered
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 10, 2014, 01:53:06 PM
Travis Cloke has been poor, Wingard didn't matter really either as awesome as it was.

Roughy goals kept hawthorn in the match

My point is that jroo should kick goals that contribute to richmonds results.  Not even his fault really,  but at the moment he is on track to win his second Coleman and not make the all aus side in the same year
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Rusty00 on June 10, 2014, 02:14:52 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 10, 2014, 01:53:06 PM
Travis Cloke has been poor, Wingard didn't matter really either as awesome as it was.

Roughy goals kept hawthorn in the match

My point is that jroo should kick goals that contribute to richmonds results.  Not even his fault really,  but at the moment he is on track to win his second Coleman and not make the all aus side in the same year
Well really, whoever wins the Coleman this year wouldn't have really set the world alight. I don't know what the lowest amount of goals kicked to win a Coleman is, but this year is going to go close.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on June 10, 2014, 02:43:35 PM
From what I can see only twice has the Coleman medal gone to the team 1st on the ladder since 2000, and only 3 times to the Premiers so essentially it doesn't really mean anything anyway.

Personally, it says to me Riewoldt is far from the problem at the Tigers at the moment. Him kicking the "important" goals is entirely up to how is team goes about playing
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on June 10, 2014, 07:01:57 PM
Tiger supporters, have a look Rex's jumper presentation to Miles. Brilliant.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-06-09/round-12-miles-jumper-presentation
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 10, 2014, 07:04:18 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on June 10, 2014, 07:01:57 PM
Tiger supporters, have a look Rex's jumper presentation to Miles. Brilliant.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-06-09/round-12-miles-jumper-presentation
Rex is such a legend.  :-*
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on June 10, 2014, 07:07:33 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on June 10, 2014, 07:04:18 PM
Rex is such a legend.  :-*
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on June 10, 2014, 08:46:08 PM
So Vickers and Thomas accept their suspensions.. Hampson/Az/BOH in for Vickery, Jackson or Conca in for Thomas?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 10, 2014, 08:51:51 PM
Quote from: Toga on June 10, 2014, 08:46:08 PM
So Vickers and Thomas accept their suspensions.. Hampson/Az/BOH in for Vickery, Jackson or Conca in for Thomas?
Yeah, you'd think so.

Surely Jacko and Concs both come if they're fit.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on June 10, 2014, 09:01:38 PM
Yeah you would think so, not sure who comes out? Maybe Petterd again, not sure how he played on the weekend though as I didn't get to watch the game. Wouldn't mind seeing Sammy Lloyd get another run as well, maybe its time Lennon has another rest.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on June 10, 2014, 09:05:34 PM
So Griffiths hold his spot? He was very quiet on the weekend..
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on June 10, 2014, 09:06:46 PM
Quote from: elephants on June 10, 2014, 09:05:34 PM
So Griffiths hold his spot? He was very quiet on the weekend..

would be the first dropped for me been quiet 2 weeks in a row
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on June 10, 2014, 09:12:25 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 10, 2014, 09:06:46 PM
Quote from: elephants on June 10, 2014, 09:05:34 PM
So Griffiths hold his spot? He was very quiet on the weekend..

would be the first dropped for me been quiet 2 weeks in a row

Yeah thats what I'm thinking, still holding him on my back bench in AF but his dpp has been mega-handy and if Langford aint back this week I'd love to keep Griff and cull Langers.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on June 10, 2014, 09:50:30 PM
I was thinking about him as I wrote the above actually ele - personally I'm thinking he will get a rest as well. If both Griffiths and Vickery go out, Hampson and Aaron Edwards come in maybe?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: nickstiges on June 10, 2014, 10:32:07 PM
Thought Batch & Dea played quite well, leave them in for the rest of the year. A Edwards or Elton in for Vickery, don't think O'Hanlon fits the role that Vickery takes unless the team is restructured them Griff would also come out for two mid-sizers (BOH, Helbig, McIntosh, Arnot take your pick).
Also Conca & Jackson in for Thomas & Lennon most likely.

Anyone heard anything on Knights? Haven't read a thing all year.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on June 10, 2014, 10:43:00 PM
Yeah I really like the way Dea is going about it, the club has persisted with him so I think he's one to keep playing. Looks like we value him as a played and a leader. Didn't see how Batch went so good to hear that he did ok.

Yeah I haven't heard anything at all mate, which is really disappointing. Thought he had a lot to bring to the table for us last year before that terrible injury, he's been listed as "test" on our injury list on and off for a while now but haven't heard anything about him in VFL reports or anything either... Hopefully he can get fit for a few games towards the end of the season.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on June 10, 2014, 11:06:10 PM
All I could find on Knights.

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-04-30/knights-out-of-the-dark
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 10, 2014, 11:09:51 PM
I really hate to say it, but from what I've read and heard, Knights probably won't be back any time soon.

He was playing such good football and really bring something to the team before such a freak incident struck him down.

I'm not sure whether he'll get a game again this season purely because of his injury history and there's been zero news on him at all.

At this point in time, I'm worried that Chris Knights' career is done. As good as he is, persistent injuries and incredibly terrible luck might spell the end of his time with us and subsequently cut short his career. And that really saddens me, because I'm a fan.

Just not sure if there's a place for him if he's not being featured anywhere.

Quote from: Vinny on June 10, 2014, 11:06:10 PM
All I could find on Knights.

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-04-30/knights-out-of-the-dark
That was April 30th, we're at June 6th and the guy seems to be a 'test' every week for his knee. That can't be good news.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on June 11, 2014, 11:40:58 AM
Quote from: nickstiges on June 10, 2014, 10:32:07 PM
Thought Batch & Dea played quite well, leave them in for the rest of the year. A Edwards or Elton in for Vickery, don't think O'Hanlon fits the role that Vickery takes unless the team is restructured them Griff would also come out for two mid-sizers (BOH, Helbig, McIntosh, Arnot take your pick).
Also Conca & Jackson in for Thomas & Lennon most likely.

Anyone heard anything on Knights? Haven't read a thing all year.
Yeah +1, really liked Batch and Dea too.
I'd like to see both Elton and BOH come into our forward line.
Griff might have to go to the VFL.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on June 12, 2014, 06:55:42 PM
i know it does not really matter but looks good that Miles is named in the 18 on the field
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on June 12, 2014, 07:17:12 PM
Hampson, Grimes, Azza and Newman in.
I love Newy, but he's nearly finished and not best 22. Hampson is useless and BOH should be in, ahead of Azza.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 12, 2014, 07:30:04 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on June 12, 2014, 07:17:12 PM
Hampson, Grimes, Azza and Newman in.
I love Newy, but he's nearly finished and not best 22. Hampson is useless and BOH should be in, ahead of Azza.
Yeah, mixed feelings.

Not happy with McDonough's omission either.

We'll see if these changes work.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on June 12, 2014, 07:54:53 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on June 12, 2014, 07:30:04 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on June 12, 2014, 07:17:12 PM
Hampson, Grimes, Azza and Newman in.
I love Newy, but he's nearly finished and not best 22. Hampson is useless and BOH should be in, ahead of Azza.
Yeah, mixed feelings.

Not happy with McDonough's omission either.

We'll see if these changes work.
Yep same, weird to drop him.

They probably brought in Hampson, as Maric can't ruck alone against Sandi, Griff and Tyrone are out, so that's not so bad.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 12, 2014, 08:14:58 PM
I suppose it was finally time for Griff to be dropped, but I'd like us to persist with him.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: nickstiges on June 12, 2014, 08:26:59 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on June 12, 2014, 08:14:58 PM
I suppose it was finally time for Griff to be dropped, but I'd like us to persist with him.

Thought he would be given the chance to play a proper second forward and pinch hit ruck role with Vickery suspended...
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 12, 2014, 08:28:12 PM
Quote from: nickstiges on June 12, 2014, 08:26:59 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on June 12, 2014, 08:14:58 PM
I suppose it was finally time for Griff to be dropped, but I'd like us to persist with him.

Thought he would be given the chance to play a proper second forward and pinch hit ruck role with Vickery suspended...
So did I actually, but at the same time... his form's been ordinary the past couple of weeks.

A week in the twos should fire him up and bring him back next week while Ty is still out.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on June 12, 2014, 08:59:15 PM
Az and Hampson in, called it :P

You would think on form/expectations that McDonough would be ahead of Newman right now but I think we will see him off with the rest of the season and he will retire at EOS (although I'm not sure he should be gifted games just for this reason :() Interesting taking Rance, Batch, Chaplin and Grimes all into the game but I guess there's a bit of versatility there so all can play in the one side.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 15, 2014, 07:45:45 PM
So now we're in the bottom four after both the Dogs and Dees got up.

Sydney next week as well. :-\
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on June 15, 2014, 07:52:06 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on June 15, 2014, 07:45:45 PM
So now we're in the bottom four after both the Dogs and Dees got up.

Sydney next week as well. :-\
We're just percentage off the bottom. We could get pick #1  :o :o
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on June 15, 2014, 07:56:00 PM
Richmond usually do ok vs Sydney at the MCG.

Tippett, Hannebery, McGylnn and Pyke all out at the moment so you guys are a shot
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on June 15, 2014, 08:00:31 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on June 15, 2014, 07:56:00 PM
Richmond usually do ok vs Sydney at the MCG.

Tippett, Hannebery, McGylnn and Pyke all out at the moment so you guys are a shot
If we were playing like we did last year, I'd be confident we could win.
You guys should win comfortably.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 15, 2014, 08:38:37 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on June 15, 2014, 07:56:00 PM
Richmond usually do ok vs Sydney at the MCG.

Tippett, Hannebery, McGylnn and Pyke all out at the moment so you guys are a shot
You've got this bloke named Lance 'Buddy' Franklin... ya know, just in case you forgot or something.  :P

We're a rabble.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on June 15, 2014, 08:41:36 PM
Buddy to kick 11 and make everyone Richmond player beg for mercy.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 15, 2014, 08:42:30 PM
Quote from: Vinny on June 15, 2014, 08:41:36 PM
Buddy to kick 11 and make everyone Richmond player beg for mercy.
That was pretty much implied in my post.  :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on June 15, 2014, 08:45:45 PM
Hahaha true.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on June 15, 2014, 10:01:09 PM
lol, would love to see the Tiges with pick 1. Maybe they can unearth the next Tambling!!

:P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 15, 2014, 10:03:56 PM
Quote from: elephants on June 15, 2014, 10:01:09 PM
lol, would love to see the Tiges with pick 1. Maybe they can unearth the next Tambling!!

:P
If we get Pick 1 (unlikely, but hey... I'm not about to rule anything out), I hope to God we grab Petracca, Wright or McCartin.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on June 16, 2014, 01:11:33 AM
Quote from: JROO8 on June 15, 2014, 07:52:06 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on June 15, 2014, 07:45:45 PM
So now we're in the bottom four after both the Dogs and Dees got up.

Sydney next week as well. :-\
We're just percentage off the bottom. We could get pick #1  :o :o

Haha we won't finish bottom but as bad as it sounds I honestly hope we finish in the bottom 6 at least.
No point finishing out of the 8 and not taking advantage of this delicious draft! 
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on June 16, 2014, 01:14:37 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on June 16, 2014, 01:11:33 AM
Quote from: JROO8 on June 15, 2014, 07:52:06 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on June 15, 2014, 07:45:45 PM
So now we're in the bottom four after both the Dogs and Dees got up.

Sydney next week as well. :-\
We're just percentage off the bottom. We could get pick #1  :o :o

Haha we won't finish bottom but as bad as it sounds I honestly hope we finish in the bottom 6 at least.
No point finishing out of the 8 and not taking advantage of this delicious draft!

Honestly thinking the same with WCE :P We aren't gonna make the 8 so lets wrap up sore players in cotton-wool (Scooter, Shuey, Coxy...) and blood the kids for the rest of the season!!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 16, 2014, 08:23:36 AM
Oh is that where you guys go in September?

I forgot some teams don't play the

in all seriousness,  never play for draft picks. The Pies always get star rookies and draft gems like Langdon.  There's always a player to suit your needs
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on June 16, 2014, 10:49:08 AM
If Richmond win every game from here on

(http://i59.tinypic.com/14nilg8.png) 

:P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on June 16, 2014, 01:11:00 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 16, 2014, 08:23:36 AM
in all seriousness,  never play for draft picks. The Pies always get star rookies and draft gems like Langdon.  There's always a player to suit your needs

Not sure if you're aware but not every team in the comp has the Pies recruiting department ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on June 16, 2014, 06:10:59 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 16, 2014, 10:49:08 AM
If Richmond win every game from here on

(http://i59.tinypic.com/14nilg8.png) 

:P
Hahahahaha if they come ninth, I'll laugh so hard I'll probably die.

If they come last, I'll laugh so hard I'll probably die. :P

Pretty much if they don't come first, I'll laugh so hard I'll probably die. ???
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 16, 2014, 06:15:25 PM
Quote from: Vinny on June 16, 2014, 06:10:59 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 16, 2014, 10:49:08 AM
If Richmond win every game from here on

(http://i59.tinypic.com/14nilg8.png) 

:P
Hahahahaha if they come ninth, I'll laugh so hard I'll probably die.

If they come last, I'll laugh so hard I'll probably die. :P

Pretty much if they don't come first, I'll laugh so hard I'll probably die. ???
So basically you're gonna die in September when Round 23 finishes and we're not first.

I'm not coming to your funeral.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on June 16, 2014, 07:07:27 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on June 16, 2014, 06:15:25 PM
Quote from: Vinny on June 16, 2014, 06:10:59 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 16, 2014, 10:49:08 AM
If Richmond win every game from here on

(http://i59.tinypic.com/14nilg8.png) 

:P
Hahahahaha if they come ninth, I'll laugh so hard I'll probably die.

If they come last, I'll laugh so hard I'll probably die. :P

Pretty much if they don't come first, I'll laugh so hard I'll probably die. ???
So basically you're gonna die in September when Round 23 finishes and we're not first.

I'm not coming to your funeral.
Yes  :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on June 16, 2014, 07:14:07 PM
WTF is up with Knights?
Listed as 4-6 weeks on our injury list.  :(
Conca could be back this week.
Jackson and Griffiths are one more week away.
Grigg a couple more.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-06-16/conca-a-chance-to-return
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on June 16, 2014, 08:33:49 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on June 16, 2014, 07:14:07 PM
WTF is up with Knights?
Listed as 4-6 weeks on our injury list.  :(
Conca could be back this week.
Jackson and Griffiths are one more week away.
Grigg a couple more.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-06-16/conca-a-chance-to-return

Injury prone.
Griffiths one more week away? He played in the VFL on the weekend
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on June 16, 2014, 09:03:56 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on June 16, 2014, 08:33:49 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on June 16, 2014, 07:14:07 PM
WTF is up with Knights?
Listed as 4-6 weeks on our injury list.  :(
Conca could be back this week.
Jackson and Griffiths are one more week away.
Grigg a couple more.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-06-16/conca-a-chance-to-return

Injury prone.
Griffiths one more week away? He played in the VFL on the weekend
Well that's what the article said. Maybe he got injured in the VFL?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on June 16, 2014, 09:59:05 PM
Yeah I just heard apparently he injured his hip in the VFL
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on June 17, 2014, 05:45:44 PM
Highlights from the VFL report on the weekend's clash against the Northern Blues:

Matt Arnot: 29 disposals (16 contested), 9 tackles, 1 goal
Matt continued his good form, he had a quiet first quarter and then really got going in the last three. Whether hes playing forward or through the midfield, he was really on-song when hunting the ball.

Brett OHanlon: 2 goals, 20 disposals
This week it was a pretty consistent four-quarter effort from Brett. He hit the scoreboard late when we really needed, it was really important from the teams point of view. Hes a damaging player and starting to get fitness up, starting to play some good footy and really push for senior selection.

Brad Helbig: 21 disposals (12 contested), 7 clearances, 5 rebound 50s
One of his better games for the year. He was terrific across half-back and through the midfield and again. Good to see him on ball for the first time in a few weeks and its probably something well look at going forward.

Cadeyn Williams: 2 goals, 21 disposals, 5 inside 50s
Played his best game for the year. His first half was quiet but got going in the second, we saw some really pleasing signs from him.

Nathan Gordon: 20 disposals, 12 marks
Played one of his better VFL games. Been down on form but started well with his run and put in a really good four-quarter performance, which is what we expect.

Sam Lloyd: 2 goals, 22 disposals, 6 inside 50s
Probably the best VFL game hes played this year, he helped set up a number of goals and marked well. He was a key player for us during our second half comeback.

Full report: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-06-17/the-vfl-report-round-10
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on June 17, 2014, 05:48:45 PM
Sounds like the taller boys in Griffiths, McBean and Elton all had quiet games so not sure any of them will be in line for a recall, so we'll probably persist with Riewoldt, Edwards and (god help us) Hampson.

Good to hear Arnot, O'Hanlon and Helbig have continued their impressive form, wouldn't mind seeing them get a run in coming weeks, while Sam Lloyd hasn't done his chances of a recall any harm with a good display with a couple of goals.

Sounds like Reece Conca is on track to return from injury this weekend as well
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on June 17, 2014, 06:00:55 PM
Get Helbig, BOH and Arnot in already!!!
I'm hoping we drop Hammer, hopefully we only brought him in as we didn't want Maric to ruck alone against Sandi. Up against Derickx/Pyke, Maric can hold his own.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 17, 2014, 06:09:11 PM
Yeah, very keen for Bikkies, BOH and Biggie to get a run.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on June 17, 2014, 06:09:15 PM
That's what I was thinking, but does it make our forward line too short? Means we'd only have Jack (195) and Az (184) - and whoever would come in for Hampson.. O'Hanlon (189)?

I agree ruck-wise, Maric will be able to hold his own, but just thinking of forward structures.

Another thing: if Arnot comes in, play him as a bloody midfielder and not as a forward!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 17, 2014, 06:13:52 PM
Yeah, I'm not sure why we're using Bikkies as a forward. Chuck him in the guts and watch him bowl over midfields. ;D
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on June 17, 2014, 06:23:20 PM
Quote from: Toga on June 17, 2014, 06:09:15 PM
That's what I was thinking, but does it make our forward line too short? Means we'd only have Jack (195) and Az (184) - and whoever would come in for Hampson.. O'Hanlon (189)?

I agree ruck-wise, Maric will be able to hold his own, but just thinking of forward structures.

Another thing: if Arnot comes in, play him as a bloody midfielder and not as a forward!
Hmm yeah you're right. Probably means they keep playing Hampson  :(
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 17, 2014, 06:26:31 PM
Playing Hampson is as good as tanking tbh.  :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on June 17, 2014, 07:52:45 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on June 17, 2014, 06:26:31 PM
Playing Hampson is as good as tanking tbh.  :P

Is now a bad time to say you guys paid a 2nd round draft pick for him  :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 17, 2014, 08:27:56 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on June 17, 2014, 07:52:45 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on June 17, 2014, 06:26:31 PM
Playing Hampson is as good as tanking tbh.  :P

Is now a bad time to say you guys paid a 2nd round draft pick for him  :P
Wouldn't mind that draft pick back.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on June 17, 2014, 08:44:08 PM
so what do you guys think your ins and outs will be?

Miles should play the rest of the year unless he has a couple bad games yeah?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on June 17, 2014, 08:51:00 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 17, 2014, 08:44:08 PM
so what do you guys think your ins and outs will be?

Miles should play the rest of the year unless he has a couple bad games yeah?
Miles is our best player, no chance he gets dropped  ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on June 17, 2014, 08:59:51 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on June 17, 2014, 08:51:00 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 17, 2014, 08:44:08 PM
so what do you guys think your ins and outs will be?

Miles should play the rest of the year unless he has a couple bad games yeah?
Miles is our best player, no chance he gets dropped  ;)

yeah has been one of if not the best in the last 2 weeks

but Conca and Thomas might come in so i was wondering who goes out
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on June 17, 2014, 09:14:18 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 17, 2014, 08:59:51 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on June 17, 2014, 08:51:00 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 17, 2014, 08:44:08 PM
so what do you guys think your ins and outs will be?

Miles should play the rest of the year unless he has a couple bad games yeah?
Miles is our best player, no chance he gets dropped  ;)

yeah has been one of if not the best in the last 2 weeks

but Conca and Thomas might come in so i was wondering who goes out
Was good against North, but our best player last week.
Jacko has to come back in, too. But If Miles is dropped there will be riots.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: nickstiges on June 17, 2014, 11:04:34 PM
Any of Lennon, Grimes, A Edwards or Hampson could go out, obviously the last one due to pure inability to kick a football. Lennon's had a crack at the seniors, probably needs a full game in the VFL & Grimes looked underdone coming back, didn't do much.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 18, 2014, 08:37:27 AM
I thought Az wasn't too bad last week. Would have liked more goals out of him though.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on June 19, 2014, 03:14:43 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-06-19/tigers-aggression-pays-off

RICHMOND forward Chris Knights has had a breakthrough in his lengthy return from a serious knee injury, with another round of surgery three weeks ago revealing a piece of floating bone that been stonewalling his recovery.

Knights, who has not played at senior level since round seven last season, has experienced multiple setbacks since tearing the patella tendon in his right knee more than 13 months ago.   

But now he has renewed hope of playing at senior level this season.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on June 19, 2014, 03:24:00 PM
THANK YOU Ric

I have been waiting for soooo long to hear something, anything about Knightsy. That's really good news that he knows what has been stalling his recovery. He's now listed as 4-6 weeks away (which is better than the repetitive "TBC"), so here's hoping he can string a few solid games together at the end of the season.

The article also says "Knights has taken on mentoring roles with young players, particularly Matt Arnot" which I think is really good, if Arnot can take on some of Knights' qualities he could be a real asset for us
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on June 19, 2014, 03:27:39 PM
haha no worries mate, thought you might like that one
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on June 19, 2014, 03:32:03 PM
We have really missed him across half forward.
Such a classy player but so injury prone
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 19, 2014, 05:01:12 PM
Quote from: Toga on June 19, 2014, 03:24:00 PM
THANK YOU Ric

I have been waiting for soooo long to hear something, anything about Knightsy. That's really good news that he knows what has been stalling his recovery. He's now listed as 4-6 weeks away (which is better than the repetitive "TBC"), so here's hoping he can string a few solid games together at the end of the season.

The article also says "Knights has taken on mentoring roles with young players, particularly Matt Arnot" which I think is really good, if Arnot can take on some of Knights' qualities he could be a real asset for us
Yeah, Toga's pretty much covered it.

Glad to finally get an update on Knights.

I'd really like Arnot to become a player like Knights. Considering the club sees Knights as a key best 22 player, it also means Bikkies is well and truly in our future plans.  8)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on June 19, 2014, 05:24:20 PM
Would love to see Knights back, we've been lacking a classy HFF this year.

Also Quinny,by our pic looks great  :-* 8)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 19, 2014, 06:38:29 PM
Patrick Keane ‏@AFL_PKeane 14s

Rd 14 teams named - Rich v Syd; Thomas, Conca in for Newman, Lennon. Pyke, Jones in for Hannebery, Rohan.




Tank and Conca in, as I expected.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on June 19, 2014, 07:02:31 PM
Anyone give is a chance Tommorow night?

We do have a good track record against Sydney but they are in some great form and we are not.

Think it will be reasonably close but swans should win
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 19, 2014, 07:20:12 PM
We won't win, but I think we can stay in it.

I'd be happy if we kept is to a similar margin of the Freo game.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on June 19, 2014, 10:53:08 PM
Some good ins for us for sure, should adds some much-needed inside grunt, and Lennon looked like he needed a rest. On another note surely this is Newman's last season with another injury putting him on the sidelines?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: SydneyRox on June 19, 2014, 10:56:51 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on June 19, 2014, 07:02:31 PM
Anyone give is a chance Tommorow night?

We do have a good track record against Sydney but they are in some great form and we are not.

Think it will be reasonably close but swans should win

yeah, swans by 5+
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 20, 2014, 10:31:06 PM
So, the same thing has happened two weeks in a row.

And on top of that, we could have potentially won the game if the umpires paid the holding the ball against Richards and award Lids that clear mark.

Although, to be fair to Sydney, with that second half... we didn't deserve to win at all.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on June 20, 2014, 10:32:17 PM
Happy with the performance, a lot of positive signs.
Anthony Miles is a flowering gun, where have you been this whole time  ::)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on June 20, 2014, 10:34:23 PM
While I complained about Rance the entire game, Richmond played pretty well.

Disappointing 2nd half and I felt Cotchin could've had more of an impact but Miles is super good
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 20, 2014, 10:36:48 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on June 20, 2014, 10:34:23 PM
While I complained about Rance the entire game, Richmond played pretty well.

Disappointing 2nd half and I felt Cotchin could've had more of an impact but Miles is super good
As I just said in the matchday thread, it was sad that Cotch went missing in the last quarter when the team needed him after his huge first three quarters.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on June 20, 2014, 10:40:34 PM
The scene was really set up for him to lead a huge win but he kind of fell flat, even though he was getting some disposals.

Troy Chaplin looked a lot better than he did earlier in the year as well
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: BigMac_93 on June 20, 2014, 10:41:39 PM
was a good effort which was not at all helped by the pathetic umpring yet again. Disgusting!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 20, 2014, 10:45:19 PM
That was definitely Troy Chaplin's best game all year.

I really thought Ricky Petterd had a sensational game too. Laid a huge amount of tackles (9, I think). Did a decent job on JPK.

Dusty had a great game as well, he's been super the last few weeks.

Ellis and Conca had a few iffy disposal moments, in fact... a lot of the boys did. I think we need to work on that.

Tank did okay after coming on as sub, still don't think he was the right man for the green vest though.

I also felt Dea was unlucky to get subbed, he played pretty well until he was handed the red vest.

Rance did a good job for the most part.

Miles is a star, very happy to see him in yellow and black.

Hampson has to go, offered nothing.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on June 20, 2014, 10:48:13 PM
All of a sudden the fox panel are talking about Richmond dumping half the team and rebuilding.
We lose to the best team in the league by 10 points, if we win that game they would be rambling on about how we have turned our season around and the future is bright  ::)

Really don't think we're in that bad of a position. List needs some topping up but the core is there to build a strong side.
1 more gun mid and 1 more gun forward and some maturing of our young guns and were on the up.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on June 20, 2014, 10:48:56 PM
@Thomo_Grant: Why does Sydney get holding decisions but Tigers don't? 4 to zip I reckon. While I'm at it not paying mark to Deledio game breaking costly
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 20, 2014, 10:52:13 PM
Yeah, agreed quinny.

Just need a star mid to slot in and a second forward to accompany Jack and things are looking good.

We have definitely shown a bit of how could we can be in the past fortnight.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on June 20, 2014, 10:52:23 PM
new DP  8)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on June 20, 2014, 10:54:11 PM
Can't see it KB?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 20, 2014, 10:54:25 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on June 20, 2014, 10:54:11 PM
Can't see it KB?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on June 20, 2014, 10:59:02 PM
was building the suspense  8)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on June 20, 2014, 11:00:38 PM
Ah I see  8) what a jet he is
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on June 20, 2014, 11:34:15 PM
Great effort from the boys, wish we could've held on but I'm a proud Richmond supporter tonight :)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on June 20, 2014, 11:37:28 PM
Whatever happened to Aaron Edwards? One point at North he was the best sharpshooter in the game.

Lack of effort? Injuries?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on June 21, 2014, 01:42:36 AM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on June 20, 2014, 11:37:28 PM
Whatever happened to Aaron Edwards? One point at North he was the best sharpshooter in the game.

Lack of effort? Injuries?

Was always a fringe player at North to, hes just continued that on with Richmond.

He's 30 years old now, I wouldnt be surprised if he retired at the end of the year.

Been a serviceable player over his career but probably lacked the height to be a genuine key forward and cement a spot.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 21, 2014, 10:47:31 AM
Richmond's pressure applied is the 3rd-highest by any team to halftime this year. Petterd leading the way with 7 tackles from 7 attempts.
-stat courtesy of Champion Data
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on June 21, 2014, 11:25:08 AM
It also took the 38th most tackles by a team in a game to effectively stop you guys.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on June 22, 2014, 03:25:49 AM
which senior AFL player does Miles remind you of?

think i'd say Watson or JPK?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on June 22, 2014, 01:22:58 PM
No.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on June 22, 2014, 01:45:30 PM
He's hardly elite, but he has good work rate and gets into good positions which is beneficial to him.

Hardly a star, but a strong worker
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ziplock on June 22, 2014, 02:45:51 PM
Keep in mind he's only 22... watson and JPK weren't exactly stars at that age :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on June 23, 2014, 12:34:26 AM
Nope, but Watson was a Bombers regular as a 21 year old and JPK hasn't missed a game since 2010 (when he was 22) :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ziplock on June 23, 2014, 12:39:44 AM
Quote from: elephants on June 23, 2014, 12:34:26 AM
Nope, but Watson was a Bombers regular as a 21 year old and JPK hasn't missed a game since 2010 (when he was 22) :P

yeah, essendon were also a bottom 4 team then.

wait...

doesn't really help my case considering richmond atm....


in any case, should probably give miles at least until the end of the season before casting judgement :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on June 23, 2014, 01:22:50 AM
Quote from: Ziplock on June 23, 2014, 12:39:44 AM
Quote from: elephants on June 23, 2014, 12:34:26 AM
Nope, but Watson was a Bombers regular as a 21 year old and JPK hasn't missed a game since 2010 (when he was 22) :P

yeah, essendon were also a bottom 4 team then.

wait...

doesn't really help my case considering richmond atm....

Haha, I lol'd at this :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on June 23, 2014, 04:49:41 AM
geez all i asked was who does he remind you of don't get your nickers in a twist
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 24, 2014, 02:35:04 PM
Richmond VFL stats from the weekend.

(http://i.imgur.com/WRxu8cF.png)

Plus here's what coach Tim Clarke had to say about all our AFL-listed players in summary:

Cadeyn Williams
19 disposals, 5 tackles
Had a run-with role on one of their better midfielders. Played his role well for two quarters but his opponent found the ball late. Probably his best offensive game.

Brad Helbig
24 disposals, 5 inside 50s
He was a solid contributor for us but was well beaten. It was his first game as a midfielder so it was really good to see him in there but we need a bigger effort from our midfielders.

Orren Stephenson
3 goals, 44 hit-outs
He was terrific again with his ruck work and gave our mids first use. Went forward and kicked three goals. His hands are much better now, he's really marking the ball well.

Matt McDonough
22 disposals, 4 rebound 50s
Started down back and was solid but we needed something different in the last quarter so he played on ball. Got a few touches, was a bit messy but an OK game from him.

Ben Lennon
1 goal, 24 disposals, 5 clearances
First game in the midfield was solid without being great. Would've liked a bit more inside ball but also needs to continue working on his decision making.

Matt Arnot
2 goals, 17 disposals
Played mainly as an extra midfielder and also played inside at different stages. Was solid but we expect more from him. We feel he's a high quality player and needs a better output to push for AFL selection.

Sam Lloyd
1 goal, 18 disposals, 5 marks
Was probably our best forward on the day. Won the ball well, put it inside 50 well and kicked a crucial goal. It's his second good game in a row so he's pushing for senior selection.

Brett O'Hanlon
17 disposals, 3 inside 50s
Was a bit down on previous weeks in terms of numbers but put the ball inside 50 and contributed to two or three goals. Once again we need our on-ballers getting more touches if we're going to win games.

Ben Darrou
17 disposals, 6 rebound 50s
Our backs were pretty competitive all day. For three quarters he won his position. The last quarter was a dampener on his game but he was quite solid.

Nathan Gordon
17 disposals, 5 marks
Played well on the wing early then went out of the game a bit. We need a bigger performance from him, a stronger presence around contests and more outside ball.

Todd Elton
10 disposals
Played a mixture of forward, ruck and back - he's a bit of a swingman at the moment. He's playing really good footy, he's improved his contested game but hasn't been able to take a game by the scruff of the neck yet this year.

Todd Banfield
1 goal, 9 disposals, 10 tackles
Didn't get too many touches but had a lot of tackles. We spoke to him about trying to contribute in some way if he's not actually finding the ball and he was able to do that on the weekend.

Liam McBean
4 disposals
Had a disappointing day but there were several contests where he showed that he's been improving in some areas we've been working on. He presented well and provided good contests, which resulted in goals, but he's better than his output on the weekend.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on June 24, 2014, 02:59:32 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on June 24, 2014, 02:35:04 PM
Richmond VFL stats from the weekend.
(http://i.imgur.com/WRxu8cF.png)
Where did you find that, Nige?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on June 24, 2014, 03:00:16 PM
Please play Lloyd or O'Hanlon unsubbed. :-[
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 24, 2014, 04:55:13 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on June 24, 2014, 02:59:32 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on June 24, 2014, 02:35:04 PM
Richmond VFL stats from the weekend.
(http://i.imgur.com/WRxu8cF.png)
Where did you find that, Nige?
In the VFL match report on the Tiges site there's a link to pdf that can be downloaded with all the stats from the game (including that of our opposition).
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on June 24, 2014, 05:01:18 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on June 24, 2014, 04:55:13 PM
In the VFL match report on the Tiges site there's a link to pdf that can be downloaded with all the stats from the game (including that of our opposition).
Oh, awesome cheers.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 24, 2014, 11:01:58 PM
Oh, for those that don't know...

Shaun Grigg and wife Sarah welcomed a son into the world.

Let's hope Sonny Grigg (Yes, his name is Sonny :P) has at least 10x times the amount of talent as his father, and then some.

But yeah, congrats to Griggy and his missus.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 25, 2014, 09:10:29 PM
6PR SportsToday @6PRSportsToday

MUNDY: I'm still quite torn about living in the most isolated capital city in the world. I try to get home as much as possible but it's hard

Jay Clark has said on Twitter that we are one of many Vic clubs chasing after Mundy. Would you like to see him in the Yellow & Black next season?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on June 25, 2014, 10:32:15 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on June 25, 2014, 09:10:29 PM
6PR SportsToday @6PRSportsToday

MUNDY: I'm still quite torn about living in the most isolated capital city in the world. I try to get home as much as possible but it's hard

Jay Clark has said on Twitter that we are one of many Vic clubs chasing after Mundy. Would you like to see him in the Yellow & Black next season?

Nope. Gun player but he is a couple of years too old for my liking.
Not really a game breaker either. We need a super star (fyfe)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Kellogscrunchynut on June 25, 2014, 11:39:14 PM
There's been talk of Mundy coming back to Melbourne for as long as I can remember so no point chasing him I reckon, Fyfe on the other hand embodies what I want to see in the tigers game and I would love to see him in yellow and black.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on June 26, 2014, 10:56:35 AM
Mundy is a freak.
He's not young, but we still have the talent in our side to push into the top 8 next year and he would really help.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on June 26, 2014, 11:04:53 AM
He is a gun but is he the guy you want? Wouldn't it be wiser to chase someone younger.

In saying that, don't blame anyone young and talented that doesn't wanna go to Richmond though, I mean your skipper apparently might want out. :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on June 26, 2014, 11:12:05 AM
Quote from: Vinny on June 26, 2014, 11:04:53 AM
He is a gun but is he the guy you want? Wouldn't it be wiser to chase someone younger.

In saying that, don't blame anyone young and talented that doesn't wanna go to Richmond though, I mean your skipper apparently might want out. :P
Yeah, Mundy is what we need.
I would like someone younger, and I'd give a lot to get someone like Dylan Shiel, he's just about GWS's most promising youngster. I'd give our first round pick up for him in a heartbeat. The only problem is that GWS would want more than that, they knocked back an offer from Melbourne last year for pick two, so unless he wants out of GWS, it will be pretty hard to get him.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on June 26, 2014, 11:12:36 AM
to be honest Richmond could do with a bit more leadership and experience to help them teach and develop, and also when needed in big games


... but hands off Mundy
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on June 26, 2014, 11:14:07 AM
Quinny is putting Mundy in a Tiges jumper as we speak. :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 26, 2014, 01:10:39 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 26, 2014, 11:12:36 AM
to be honest Richmond could do with a bit more leadership and experience to help them teach and develop, and also when needed in big games
Exactly.

Mundy's exactly the kind of player we could do with.

He's not the youngest target out there, but I really think he's probably the best fit for the current playing group.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 26, 2014, 01:20:25 PM
Also, happy 23rd Dusty.  :-* 8)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on June 26, 2014, 01:31:53 PM
Happy Birthday Dusty you beast.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on June 26, 2014, 02:00:06 PM
So...Fyfe has resigned. Dangerfield it is I guess! :P

As for Mundy, I'm not sure.. At 28 I'm not sure his age really suits the structure of the team and we'd be better off going for a younger bloke who will be around for longer and has more development left in him. Wouldn't say no, just have others ahead of him.

Onya Dusty, doesn't seem like he's been around long enough for him to be chalking up #100 this weekend
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 26, 2014, 03:45:40 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-06-26/best-players-need-to-lift-hardwick

Thought this was a good read, fair comments by Dimma.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on June 26, 2014, 05:05:11 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on June 26, 2014, 01:10:39 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 26, 2014, 11:12:36 AM
to be honest Richmond could do with a bit more leadership and experience to help them teach and develop, and also when needed in big games
Exactly.

Mundy's exactly the kind of player we could do with.

He's not the youngest target out there, but I really think he's probably the best fit for the current playing group.

Mundy turns 30 next year. Definitely not!
Offer danger a mountain of cash or don't bother I reckon
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 26, 2014, 06:46:43 PM
Newy and Ty in for Az and Hammer.

Lloyd, Arnot and BOH are the emgs.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on June 26, 2014, 07:56:16 PM
I've been more patient with Ty than most.
A lot of Richmond supporters want him gone. If I don't see something from him in the next few games I'm afraid I'll have to join them
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on June 26, 2014, 08:00:33 PM
@FOXFOOTY: Nate Fyfe has just told Gerard and Robbo that he was offered a 7-year deal, but opted to stay with the @Fremantle_FC! #AFL360 - @FOXFOOTY

Rumours going around that it was us who had a crack at Fyfe, offering him the seven year deal.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 26, 2014, 08:14:30 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on June 26, 2014, 07:56:16 PM
I've been more patient with Ty than most.
A lot of Richmond supporters want him gone. If I don't see something from him in the next few games I'm afraid I'll have to join them
Yep, I'm still hoping he'll come good.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on June 27, 2014, 01:31:56 AM
Quote from: JROO8 on June 26, 2014, 08:00:33 PM
@FOXFOOTY: Nate Fyfe has just told Gerard and Robbo that he was offered a 7-year deal, but opted to stay with the @Fremantle_FC! #AFL360 - @FOXFOOTY

Rumours going around that it was us who had a crack at Fyfe, offering him the seven year deal.

I hope it was us. I want to know that we're being aggressive at trying to get a star to the tiges
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 30, 2014, 05:04:28 PM
"Richmond has prioritised quality midfielders and a key forward in the draft and is not expected to pursue Melbourne free agent defender James Frawley.

The Tigers expect to make six or seven changes to the list, with a number of players' futures still to be determined, but the club is staying the course and believes radical change is not necessary despite the team's disappointing fall this year.

Richmond is not likely to be aggressive in free agency, partly because few of the players potentially available fit their age profile. Fremantle's David Mundy, 29 next month, is considered too old for the Tigers, who are more likely to get involved in trades than chasing expensive free agents."

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/tigers-eye-midfielders-forward-in-draft-20140628-zspop.html#ixzz365wZwUJV




There was also this little bit:

The Tigers signed a number of players on one-year contracts, which gives the club flexibility. Veterans Chris Newman and Jake King are among those out of contract, along with Ben Griffith.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: nickstiges on June 30, 2014, 05:54:32 PM
That's confusing, who signed the one year contracts?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on June 30, 2014, 05:57:00 PM
Quote from: nickstiges on June 30, 2014, 05:54:32 PM
That's confusing, who signed the one year contracts?
No idea tbh.  ???
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on July 01, 2014, 01:51:55 PM
Well anyway, Mundy has signed for 3 years with Freo.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: LF on July 01, 2014, 02:29:43 PM
Will Jackson squeeze his way back into the team this week do you think guys?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on July 01, 2014, 02:56:43 PM
Quote from: luvfooty on July 01, 2014, 02:29:43 PM
Will Jackson squeeze his way back into the team this week do you think guys?
Yep, if he's fit he's definitely in.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: LF on July 01, 2014, 02:59:42 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on July 01, 2014, 02:56:43 PM
Quote from: luvfooty on July 01, 2014, 02:29:43 PM
Will Jackson squeeze his way back into the team this week do you think guys?
Yep, if he's fit he's definitely in.

Thank you
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on July 01, 2014, 03:00:43 PM
Quote from: Vinny on July 01, 2014, 01:51:55 PM
Well anyway, Mundy has signed for 3 years with Freo.
;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on July 01, 2014, 03:08:15 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 01, 2014, 03:00:43 PM
Quote from: Vinny on July 01, 2014, 01:51:55 PM
Well anyway, Mundy has signed for 3 years with Freo.
;D ;D ;D
Looks like we'll just have to take Shiel and JOR  :-\ :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on July 01, 2014, 04:09:00 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on July 01, 2014, 03:08:15 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 01, 2014, 03:00:43 PM
Quote from: Vinny on July 01, 2014, 01:51:55 PM
Well anyway, Mundy has signed for 3 years with Freo.
;D ;D ;D
Looks like we'll just have to take Shiel and JOR  :-\ :P

Good! I didn't want old man Mundy :P
My brother is actually a friend of Dylan Shiel. He played juniors for Edithvale-Asepndale.
I'll tell him to get in his ear :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on July 01, 2014, 04:16:26 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on July 01, 2014, 04:09:00 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on July 01, 2014, 03:08:15 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 01, 2014, 03:00:43 PM
Quote from: Vinny on July 01, 2014, 01:51:55 PM
Well anyway, Mundy has signed for 3 years with Freo.
;D ;D ;D
Looks like we'll just have to take Shiel and JOR  :-\ :P

Good! I didn't want old man Mundy :P
My brother is actually a friend of Dylan Shiel. He played juniors for Edithvale-Asepndale.
I'll tell him to get in his ear :P
Haha yes do it!
Would love Shiel at Tigerland  8)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 02, 2014, 08:00:45 AM
you guys don't really tag at all do you? besides Morris on forward/defender lock down role

think Rocky is going to go big worth putting VC on
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on July 02, 2014, 11:05:48 AM
Since Jackson started winning his own ball we haven't really used taggers much, although Petterd and Grigg have been doing some jobs in the last few weeks and have done alright with them.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: nickstiges on July 02, 2014, 01:14:37 PM
We don't have a dedicated tagger like Crowley but Ellis, Conca, Grigg, Jackson, Thomas have all been used this year, even Deledio (tagged Mundy last yr).
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 02, 2014, 01:44:48 PM
I think Ricky Petterd tagged in a game or two as well.

I actually didn't mind Shaun Grigg in his tagging role, he did a decent job on those few occasions.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on July 02, 2014, 01:45:59 PM
Chris Knights listed as 1 week away! :D
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 02, 2014, 01:55:14 PM
Quote from: Toga on July 02, 2014, 01:45:59 PM
Chris Knights listed as 1 week away! :D
And then he'll be listed as test.  :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on July 02, 2014, 02:07:47 PM
Nah he was listed as 2-3 last week so he must be on track now. Looks like clearing those bone shards out of the knee has really helped him out. Hopefully he'll have his fitness up to scratch with a few weeks in the VFL and gets a run in the next month
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 02, 2014, 02:17:29 PM
I honestly wouldn't even care if he returned as the sub. I just want to see him out there running around again.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Kellogscrunchynut on July 02, 2014, 07:00:47 PM
Wish we kept Jayden Post I reckon he would come in handy right about now.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 03, 2014, 06:43:21 PM
BRETT O'HANLON WILL PLAY HIS FIRST GAME THIS YEAR! WOOOOOOOOOOOO!  8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on July 03, 2014, 06:44:48 PM
BOH  :-*
Hopefully they don't start him as the sub.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 03, 2014, 07:01:46 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on July 03, 2014, 06:44:48 PM
BOH  :-*
Hopefully they don't start him as the sub.
Well, two weeks ago it was Tank, last week it was Ricky... I didn't pick either of those and they were both quite a surprise. For all we know, Dimma might pick Cotch as the sub.  ::) :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: LF on July 03, 2014, 10:54:15 PM
Jackson named is he a vest risk this week or do you reckon Foley might be wearing the green
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 04, 2014, 08:48:25 AM
As I said in my post above, it's hard to tell given the unexpected subs the past two weeks... imo anyway.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on July 04, 2014, 09:24:25 AM
I think the sub will be one of BOH, Petterd, Foley
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: LF on July 04, 2014, 11:26:10 AM
White out now Arnot in thinking maybe he'll get the vest now
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on July 04, 2014, 11:32:56 AM
Quote from: luvfooty on July 04, 2014, 11:26:10 AM
White out now Arnot in thinking maybe he'll get the vest now
you mean Thomas out.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 04, 2014, 04:18:22 PM
Happy to see Bikkies in!  8)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 05, 2014, 02:06:50 PM
Arnot playing forward pocket apparently.  ::)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on July 05, 2014, 03:10:21 PM
To people that don't like Titch...  ::) :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 05, 2014, 03:13:15 PM
Cotch having another good game, hope he keeps this up for the rest of the season.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 05, 2014, 04:18:52 PM
Some our much maligned players like Edwards, Vickery, Batchelor and Petterd have all done well today.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on July 05, 2014, 05:35:58 PM
Quote from: Toga on July 05, 2014, 03:10:21 PM
To people that don't like Titch...  ::) :P
Titch is a flowering gun, was close to BOG today.
Also impressed with Rance and Ty today
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 05, 2014, 05:39:58 PM
Again, a win is a win. I'd still like for us to win more convincingly though.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on July 05, 2014, 05:41:36 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 05, 2014, 05:39:58 PM
Again, a win is a win. I'd still like for us to win more convincingly though.
Yep, comepltey agree with this.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on July 05, 2014, 06:21:36 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on July 05, 2014, 05:35:58 PM
Quote from: Toga on July 05, 2014, 03:10:21 PM
To people that don't like Titch...  ::) :P
Titch is a flowering gun, was close to BOG today.
Also impressed with Rance and Ty today

I know, that's why I said that :P I'm not really sure why he was copping the spotlight in the first place, he is a great talent.

Yeah Rance holding Merrett to 2 marks and 0.1 was a great effort, and it was good to see Ty kick a bag. Dusty was great for about 3 quarters, while Cotch was pretty solid all day. Good to have consecutive wins for the first time this season! :)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 05, 2014, 06:23:37 PM
Quote from: Toga on July 05, 2014, 06:21:36 PM
Good to have consecutive wins for the first time this season! :)
Probably needed it too, we're gonna come crashing back down to Earth next week.  :-\
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on July 05, 2014, 06:25:03 PM
Quote from: Toga on July 05, 2014, 06:21:36 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on July 05, 2014, 05:35:58 PM
Quote from: Toga on July 05, 2014, 03:10:21 PM
To people that don't like Titch...  ::) :P
Titch is a flowering gun, was close to BOG today.
Also impressed with Rance and Ty today

I know, that's why I said that :P I'm not really sure why he was copping the spotlight in the first place, he is a great talent.

Yeah Rance holding Merrett to 2 marks and 0.1 was a great effort, and it was good to see Ty kick a bag. Dusty was great for about 3 quarters, while Cotch was pretty solid all day. Good to have consecutive wins for the first time this season! :)
Haha I know, I was just agreeing with you. Don't know why some fans don't rate him.
I like him in the mids, he's got incredibly quick hands and he's classy.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on July 06, 2014, 01:53:11 AM
Can't even enjoy a win when I know we're not making the finals  :'(
Just want the season to be over already so we can hit the trade table, get some good draft picks and get stuck into 2015
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: tor01doc on July 06, 2014, 01:58:40 AM
Like Tambling?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on July 06, 2014, 08:53:31 AM
Quote from: tor01doc on July 06, 2014, 01:58:40 AM
Like Tambling?

Nah like Mitch Thorp  ::)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: tor01doc on July 06, 2014, 09:23:20 AM
At least he had a few injuries do an excuse and nek minnit we have 2 flags.  :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on July 06, 2014, 10:42:42 AM
Quote from: tor01doc on July 06, 2014, 09:23:20 AM
At least he had a few injuries do an excuse and nek minnit we have 2 flags.  :P

Taking Mitch Thorp over Joel Selwood is a worse blunder than Tambling over Buddy.
Hawthorn supporters don't like to mention that one though ;)

But yes.. Richmond have made some stuff ups. Got a pretty good recent track record though and with this years draft I think the club will be rubbing their hands together  8)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: tor01doc on July 06, 2014, 10:56:38 AM
 :'(

I think I might even like watching him duck were he wearing the atrocious poo and wee coloured stripes.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: tor01doc on July 06, 2014, 10:58:04 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on July 06, 2014, 10:42:42 AM
Quote from: tor01doc on July 06, 2014, 09:23:20 AM
At least he had a few injuries do an excuse and nek minnit we have 2 flags.  :P

Taking Mitch Thorp over Joel Selwood is a worse blunder than Tambling over Buddy.
Hawthorn supporters don't like to mention that one though ;)

But yes.. Richmond have made some stuff ups. Got a pretty good recent track record though and with this years draft I think the club will be rubbing their hands together  8)

And another thing, we got JPK that draft - ha ha!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on July 06, 2014, 02:19:54 PM
Quote from: tor01doc on July 06, 2014, 10:58:04 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on July 06, 2014, 10:42:42 AM
Quote from: tor01doc on July 06, 2014, 09:23:20 AM
At least he had a few injuries do an excuse and nek minnit we have 2 flags.  :P

Taking Mitch Thorp over Joel Selwood is a worse blunder than Tambling over Buddy.
Hawthorn supporters don't like to mention that one though ;)

But yes.. Richmond have made some stuff ups. Got a pretty good recent track record though and with this years draft I think the club will be rubbing their hands together  8)

And another thing, we got JPK that draft - ha ha!

Yeah he's having a great season for you guys :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 07, 2014, 04:26:56 PM
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-07-05/mcbean-kicks-five-in-big-vfl-win

Great news from the VFL. 8)

And because I'm a good guy, I SS'd the article so you don't even have to click the link. Unless you wanna see the beast that is Liam McBean.  :P ;D

(http://i.imgur.com/CmLAEvZ.png)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Big Mac on July 07, 2014, 05:21:07 PM
Lennon a chance to get a game soon?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on July 07, 2014, 06:25:31 PM
Damn if Lloyd kicked 6 instead of 4.2, would have looked way better for selection in seniors surely.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on July 07, 2014, 07:08:54 PM
Well I wouldn't be surprised this week to see someone like O'Hanlon make way for another tall forward if we try to expose the Power's defence, given they're missing a few key talls back there.. You would think it'd be one of Griffiths, Hampson or Az Edwards but could McBean be an outside chance to debut?

Both Griff and Hampson were noted to have been lacking impact on the scoreboard in this week's VFL report, so we could see the Bean IMO!

On another note... Knights playing VFL this weekend :D
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 07, 2014, 10:42:48 PM
If Hampson comes back in...  ::)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on July 10, 2014, 05:20:21 PM
Big game against Port on the weekend, they will be looking to snap their losing streak and we will be looking to extend our winning streak. Haven't beaten any decent teams really so far this year so a win would be great for our confidence - it'll be a hard task against an incredibly talented team but a few key injuries to Trengove, Carlile and now Monfries could see us in with a shot.

Will be interesting to see what changes are made this week later tonight
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 12, 2014, 10:01:38 PM
Half Time in the VFL and although Richmond are trailing by 20 points the good news is that Chris Knights is playing superb football. He is our leading disposal getter with 13 disposals (9 contested) and 5 clearances.

Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 12, 2014, 10:50:10 PM
TIGERS WIN. THE VFL TIGERS WIN BY 4 POINTS AT SIMMONDS STADIUM!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: TheAnt on July 13, 2014, 12:36:06 AM
I think I know what page you've liked Nigey  8)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on July 13, 2014, 12:36:51 AM
Awesome to hear Knightsy has done well for himself 8) Hopefully will be back in the seniors shortly!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 13, 2014, 09:57:05 AM
Quote from: TheAnt on July 13, 2014, 12:36:06 AM
I think I know what page you've liked Nigey  8)
Love your work.  ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: nickstiges on July 13, 2014, 10:23:20 AM
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-07-13/knights-returns-as-tigers-win-vfl-thriller

Good to hear something positive about Knights. McBean with 4 sausages too must be close to a debut and Matty Dea with the game saving mark, shouldn't have been dropped in the first place.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 13, 2014, 10:26:46 AM
Quote from: nickstiges on July 13, 2014, 10:23:20 AM
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-07-13/knights-returns-as-tigers-win-vfl-thriller

Good to hear something positive about Knights. McBean with 4 sausages too must be close to a debut and Matty Dea with the game saving mark, shouldn't have been dropped in the first place.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on July 13, 2014, 11:10:06 AM
Yeah I thought McBean was a chance for this week if we wanted to stretch the Power defence but obviously not :P Hopefully he gets a chance soon though.

I didn't think Dea had performed too badly so I'm also a bit surprised he was dropped. Think the club values him pretty highly as a player so we should see him stay on at the club next year you would think.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 13, 2014, 11:01:37 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on July 14, 2014, 03:09:21 AM
Not bad, not bad at all.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on July 14, 2014, 03:05:54 PM
Great effort from the boys, thought we were a chance to push the Power but that was a great performance 8)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on July 15, 2014, 05:42:51 PM
Its strange because Riewoldt was easily the best forward on the ground for mine. Gotta wonder where the defensive intensity from him was all this time
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 21, 2014, 04:24:18 PM
Jacko and Ricky to miss through injury.

I wonder if Knights will get a call up.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 23, 2014, 05:05:08 PM
Shaun Grigg's returning via the VFL this week.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on July 23, 2014, 06:00:39 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 23, 2014, 05:05:08 PM
Shaun Grigg's returning via the VFL this week.

He can stay there  :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on July 24, 2014, 12:01:32 PM
flower, he's massive
(http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2014/07/23/1226998/895771-fda82eaa-1215-11e4-ae81-95568c4ed36e.jpg)

We've signed him, as category B rookie.
He's name is Ivan Soldo and is Ivan Maric's cousin.
HS 204 cm's and 106 kg.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on July 24, 2014, 12:55:22 PM
Never played a game of AFL apparently either
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on July 24, 2014, 12:59:36 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on July 24, 2014, 12:55:22 PM
Never played a game of AFL apparently either
Yep, I think that's true.
Will be playing for the Northern Knights, in the TAC Cup for the rest of the year.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ringo on July 24, 2014, 01:27:27 PM
If he learns as quickly as Archie Smith you will be set for rucks.  Smith also came from Basketball and is getting better each game I see him.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on July 24, 2014, 01:33:53 PM
Mike Pyke came in as a Cat B rookie in late 2008 and 4 years later he managed to basically solo ruck in the GF for Sydney, so he's definitely worth a shot
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 24, 2014, 04:36:59 PM
If Soldo can become anywhere near as good and valuable as Maric is to us right now, I'd be very very happy.  :D
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 24, 2014, 06:31:40 PM
Tank and Nippa in for Jacko and Ricky.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on July 24, 2014, 09:01:39 PM
Thomas shouldn't be in the team, we need run and carry.
McBean named as an emergency, surely not far away. Put him in next week against the Giants.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 24, 2014, 09:10:40 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on July 24, 2014, 09:01:39 PM
Thomas shouldn't be in the team, we need run and carry.
McBean named as an emergency, surely not far away. Put him in next week against the Giants.
Like for like replacements it seems. I think Nippa might be the sub and I'm thinking Tank will get subbed either during the third or at 3QT barring injury.

I am getting the feeling McBean might get a run against the Giants though, he's due.

Matt McDonough was a bit stiff not to get a call up I reckon.

Chris Knights might get a game next week too I reckon and Grigg will probably be back.

Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on July 24, 2014, 09:30:36 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 24, 2014, 09:10:40 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on July 24, 2014, 09:01:39 PM
Thomas shouldn't be in the team, we need run and carry.
McBean named as an emergency, surely not far away. Put him in next week against the Giants.
Like for like replacements it seems. I think Nippa might be the sub and I'm thinking Tank will get subbed either during the third or at 3QT barring injury.

I am getting the feeling McBean might get a run against the Giants though, he's due.

Matt McDonough was a bit stiff not to get a call up I reckon.

Chris Knights might get a game next week too I reckon and Grigg will probably be back.
Yeah, I guess they saw Thomas as Jacko's replacement, but I'd rather see Maddona given a game.
I'd like to see Knights back and yeah Grigg's definitely going to be back  ::)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 25, 2014, 04:04:04 AM
Miles first interstate game of the year interested to see how he goes

not a bad matchup for Priddis maybe
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on July 25, 2014, 01:14:27 PM
We give up massive midfield scores so I wouldn't be surprised to see him and Cotch rack it up. He is on my mid bench though in most things so if he scored less than 90 I'd be chuffed :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Rusty00 on July 25, 2014, 01:27:27 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on July 24, 2014, 01:33:53 PM
Mike Pyke came in as a Cat B rookie in late 2008 and 4 years later he managed to basically solo ruck in the GF for Sydney, so he's definitely worth a shot
Mumford played in that GF, but your point still stands though ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on July 25, 2014, 01:44:55 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on July 25, 2014, 01:27:27 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on July 24, 2014, 01:33:53 PM
Mike Pyke came in as a Cat B rookie in late 2008 and 4 years later he managed to basically solo ruck in the GF for Sydney, so he's definitely worth a shot
Mumford played in that GF, but your point still stands though ;)

Yes, except Mumford was injured the entire time and he was practically solo  ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ziplock on July 25, 2014, 03:08:50 PM
https://www.facebook.com/255625354469983/photos/a.255776027788249.70591.255625354469983/844105808955265/?type=1

haha.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 25, 2014, 06:20:48 PM
I've just been told that we're... and I quote "lol worthy", "taking the piss" among other things.

Other lines used were: "no one respects tigers" and "tigers as a franchise have been a joke" and the reasoning is because " richmond has one of the biggest supporter bases in the afl, plays MCG and has good fixture"




Obviously, I disagree. However, I'm wondering whether others feel the same.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on July 25, 2014, 07:15:14 PM
They've had a disappointing decade for sure, but every club at some point in history goes through those. They always beat some contenders each year so hardly a joke.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on July 25, 2014, 10:10:23 PM
Out: Vickery
In: McBeeeeeaaaannnnn  8)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 25, 2014, 10:12:41 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on July 25, 2014, 10:10:23 PM
Out: Vickery
In: McBeeeeeaaaannnnn  8)
Lock it in, Eddie!

Fresh off 9 goals in his past two VFL games.

Plays the Giants.

Watch him kick 5 on debut.  ;D
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 25, 2014, 10:14:00 PM
(http://www.richmondfc.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/Richmond/Images/mcbean14web.jpg)

:-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on July 25, 2014, 10:15:19 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 25, 2014, 10:12:41 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on July 25, 2014, 10:10:23 PM
Out: Vickery
In: McBeeeeeaaaannnnn  8)
Lock it in, Eddie!

Fresh off 9 goals in his past two VFL games.

Plays the Giants.

Watch him kick 5 on debut.  ;D
Haha, I wouldn't lock it in, how team selection has gone this year, we'll probably bring in Hampson  ::)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Mr.Craig on July 25, 2014, 10:16:48 PM
Wish Pettard could stay on the park. Giving me the showers.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 25, 2014, 10:34:24 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on July 25, 2014, 10:15:19 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 25, 2014, 10:12:41 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on July 25, 2014, 10:10:23 PM
Out: Vickery
In: McBeeeeeaaaannnnn  8)
Lock it in, Eddie!

Fresh off 9 goals in his past two VFL games.

Plays the Giants.

Watch him kick 5 on debut.  ;D
Haha, I wouldn't lock it in, how team selection has gone this year, we'll probably bring in Hampson  ::)
Haha yeah, probably.  :P

Quote from: Mr.Craig on July 25, 2014, 10:16:48 PM
Wish Pettard could stay on the park. Giving me the showers.
He's improved a fair bit this year and is a real role player. Had a couple of injuries though, think it was a finger this time. Cops more shower than he deserves by bandwagon supporters.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on July 26, 2014, 12:35:14 AM
So how many weeks for Ty?
I'm thinking 2-3?
Also, will Cox get a week for his elbow?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on July 26, 2014, 12:36:18 AM
Is there a video of it out?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: tor01doc on July 26, 2014, 12:39:35 AM
Vickery - 4 weeks.

Cox - depends on the X-rays.

Low impact / not high / no injury -> no worries.

Wasn't Vickery's father a boxer? In his DNA - that would be my defence strategy.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on July 26, 2014, 12:40:57 AM
afl.com.au is showing it vinny

I'd say anywhere between 3-5 weeks, although probably has a bad record too


Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on July 26, 2014, 12:46:32 AM
Thanks man, just saw it.

What a cow.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on July 26, 2014, 01:19:37 AM
4-5 imo. Should be impacted by a bad record and the old shower bloke tax of 10% ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 26, 2014, 10:21:25 AM
It'll be at least 3 weeks for Tyrone, possibly 4.

I reckon give him 4 and let him jet off on his holidays early or something and just let McJesus play out the final 5 rounds.  ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on July 26, 2014, 01:17:16 PM
VFL is on now, Richmond v Port Melbourne.
If McBean plays well, he's in next week. Griff and Hampson could potentially fill in for Tyrone.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 26, 2014, 01:19:05 PM
Griff pls. Not Hammer.  :-X
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 26, 2014, 01:21:05 PM
I'll watch the whole game.

I think this will be the first Richmond VFL game I've watched on TV.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: T Dog on July 26, 2014, 01:24:00 PM
Good looking surface at Punt Rd
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 26, 2014, 01:38:28 PM
Kniiiiiiiiiiiiiiights!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: shaker on July 26, 2014, 01:53:15 PM
If the coach does not give McBean a run in the next few weeks to cover Vickery you have to question why , the seasons done but sorry guys they don't need to win many more games they have to think about the draft and lot's of young guys our list is littered with mid 20's spuds only 3 players 19 years old plus they must move heaven and earth to get a big bodied mid from somewhere but there does not seem to be many up for grabs maybe Coniglio would be great but who could they offer I'm thinking Jack but GWS are fine for forwards thoughts ??
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on July 26, 2014, 02:03:14 PM
Quote from: shaker on July 26, 2014, 01:53:15 PM
If the coach does not give McBean a run in the next few weeks to cover Vickery you have to question why , the seasons done but sorry guys they don't need to win many more games they have to think about the draft and lot's of young guys our list is littered with mid 20's spuds only 3 players 19 years old plus they must move heaven and earth to get a big bodied mid from somewhere but there does not seem to be many up for grabs maybe Coniglio would be great but who could they offer I'm thinking Jack but GWS are fine for forwards thoughts ??
I'd like to see McBean get a game, but is he ready? He's still very skinny. Someone like Griff is bigger and is a better ruckman and with Ty out, we'd need someone to ruck to give Maric a rest.

Jack is the last guy I'd want to trade, he's so important. It's not all about goals, he's so unselfish and sets up lots of our goals.
I don't think GWS would want Riewoldt anyway, they've got plenty of key forwards.
We're probably looking at a JOR/Shiel, if they want to come home to Vic.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 26, 2014, 02:18:25 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on July 26, 2014, 02:03:14 PM
Quote from: shaker on July 26, 2014, 01:53:15 PM
If the coach does not give McBean a run in the next few weeks to cover Vickery you have to question why , the seasons done but sorry guys they don't need to win many more games they have to think about the draft and lot's of young guys our list is littered with mid 20's spuds only 3 players 19 years old plus they must move heaven and earth to get a big bodied mid from somewhere but there does not seem to be many up for grabs maybe Coniglio would be great but who could they offer I'm thinking Jack but GWS are fine for forwards thoughts ??
I'd like to see McBean get a game, but is he ready? He's still very skinny. Someone like Griff is bigger and is a better ruckman and with Ty out, we'd need someone to ruck to give Maric a rest.

Jack is the last guy I'd want to trade, he's so important. It's not all about goals, he's so unselfish and sets up lots of our goals.
I don't think GWS would want Riewoldt anyway, they've got plenty of key forwards.
We're probably looking at a JOR/Shiel, if they want to come home to Vic.
I'd think we may look at Jaksch too.




In other news, the VFL boys been absolutely terrible this second quarter.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: shaker on July 26, 2014, 02:20:41 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on July 26, 2014, 02:03:14 PM
Quote from: shaker on July 26, 2014, 01:53:15 PM
If the coach does not give McBean a run in the next few weeks to cover Vickery you have to question why , the seasons done but sorry guys they don't need to win many more games they have to think about the draft and lot's of young guys our list is littered with mid 20's spuds only 3 players 19 years old plus they must move heaven and earth to get a big bodied mid from somewhere but there does not seem to be many up for grabs maybe Coniglio would be great but who could they offer I'm thinking Jack but GWS are fine for forwards thoughts ??
I'd like to see McBean get a game, but is he ready? He's still very skinny. Someone like Griff is bigger and is a better ruckman and with Ty out, we'd need someone to ruck to give Maric a rest.

Jack is the last guy I'd want to trade, he's so important. It's not all about goals, he's so unselfish and sets up lots of our goals.
I don't think GWS would want Riewoldt anyway, they've got plenty of key forwards.
We're probably looking at a JOR/Shiel, if they want to come home to Vic.

That's the problem JR we really have not got many young guys that are showing promise , both Edwards , Petterd , Griffiths , Knights , Lloyd , Banfield , King , Hampson , Morris  and throw the oldies Newman , Foley and no disrespect to them are not going to take us very far and there is a few more that can be added but we need a big injection of youth but these guys are not worth any currency so do we just persist with this moneyball plan until we have to do a full rebuild ??
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 26, 2014, 02:22:26 PM
Quote from: shaker on July 26, 2014, 02:20:41 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on July 26, 2014, 02:03:14 PM
Quote from: shaker on July 26, 2014, 01:53:15 PM
If the coach does not give McBean a run in the next few weeks to cover Vickery you have to question why , the seasons done but sorry guys they don't need to win many more games they have to think about the draft and lot's of young guys our list is littered with mid 20's spuds only 3 players 19 years old plus they must move heaven and earth to get a big bodied mid from somewhere but there does not seem to be many up for grabs maybe Coniglio would be great but who could they offer I'm thinking Jack but GWS are fine for forwards thoughts ??
I'd like to see McBean get a game, but is he ready? He's still very skinny. Someone like Griff is bigger and is a better ruckman and with Ty out, we'd need someone to ruck to give Maric a rest.

Jack is the last guy I'd want to trade, he's so important. It's not all about goals, he's so unselfish and sets up lots of our goals.
I don't think GWS would want Riewoldt anyway, they've got plenty of key forwards.
We're probably looking at a JOR/Shiel, if they want to come home to Vic.

That's the problem JR we really have not got many young guys that are showing promise , both Edwards , Petterd , Griffiths , Knights , Lloyd , Banfield , King , Hampson , Morris  and throw the oldies Newman , Foley and no disrespect to them are not going to take us very far and there is a few more that can be added but we need a big injection of youth but these guys are not worth any currency so do we just persist with this moneyball plan until we have to do a full rebuild ??
The list and some players aren't as bad as you're making them out to be.

There does need to be a decent turnover in players and we do need a few good young players in the draft but a full rebuild is unnecessary and pointless.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: shaker on July 26, 2014, 02:38:31 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 26, 2014, 02:22:26 PM
Quote from: shaker on July 26, 2014, 02:20:41 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on July 26, 2014, 02:03:14 PM
Quote from: shaker on July 26, 2014, 01:53:15 PM
If the coach does not give McBean a run in the next few weeks to cover Vickery you have to question why , the seasons done but sorry guys they don't need to win many more games they have to think about the draft and lot's of young guys our list is littered with mid 20's spuds only 3 players 19 years old plus they must move heaven and earth to get a big bodied mid from somewhere but there does not seem to be many up for grabs maybe Coniglio would be great but who could they offer I'm thinking Jack but GWS are fine for forwards thoughts ??
I'd like to see McBean get a game, but is he ready? He's still very skinny. Someone like Griff is bigger and is a better ruckman and with Ty out, we'd need someone to ruck to give Maric a rest.

Jack is the last guy I'd want to trade, he's so important. It's not all about goals, he's so unselfish and sets up lots of our goals.
I don't think GWS would want Riewoldt anyway, they've got plenty of key forwards.
We're probably looking at a JOR/Shiel, if they want to come home to Vic.

That's the problem JR we really have not got many young guys that are showing promise , both Edwards , Petterd , Griffiths , Knights , Lloyd , Banfield , King , Hampson , Morris  and throw the oldies Newman , Foley and no disrespect to them are not going to take us very far and there is a few more that can be added but we need a big injection of youth but these guys are not worth any currency so do we just persist with this moneyball plan until we have to do a full rebuild ??
The list and some players aren't as bad as you're making them out to be.

There does need to be a decent turnover in players and we do need a few good young players in the draft but a full rebuild is unnecessary and pointless.

As I said Nigey do we persist with the  path we are on until a full rebuild not do a full rebuild but lets face the facts the list we have will not threaten the good teams no matter how much lipstick you apply but yes we need to unload lots of players and inject youth , and are watching the VFL and just can't see any of the older guys playing coming in and improving our team

Even the commentators are echoing what I'm saying we need to wake up and smell the roses  ::)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 26, 2014, 03:21:01 PM
To be fair, we're playing Port Melbourne who have been the VFL's best and most consistent team for years.

Not sure if anyone is really doing enough to get a call up for the Giants game tbh. However, I expect Grigg will definitely come in - who replaces Tyrone is a lottery at this stage.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: shaker on July 26, 2014, 03:29:15 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 26, 2014, 03:21:01 PM
To be fair, we're playing Port Melbourne who have been the VFL's best and most consistent team for years.

Not sure if anyone is really doing enough to get a call up for the Giants game tbh. However, I expect Grigg will definitely come in - who replaces Tyrone is a lottery at this stage.

Ha ha Nigey we both want the best for the Tiges but as the commentators said good AFL teams have good VFL teams I would rather lots more young guys running around in VFL next year instead of what I am watching today  :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 26, 2014, 03:54:00 PM
Ugh, that was difficult to watch.

Griff had the ball easy, got past his man and could have had a shot. McBean was right in front so he passed it to him but Beanie was too casual, got his kick smothered a few metres out in front and had another two shots off the ground and missed them.  :(

Still, I hope the two of them get called up with Grigg next week.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: nickstiges on July 26, 2014, 08:50:21 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Tb26HHZ.gif)

Amazing.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 26, 2014, 08:57:26 PM
Dat angle doe.  :o 8)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 27, 2014, 09:42:21 AM
If we beat the Giants next week, it'll be the first time since 2000 that we've won 5 in a row.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on July 27, 2014, 11:12:43 AM
Winning is infectious and would obviously rather watch us win than lose anyday but considering we can't play finals I can't help but feel like these late wins are just going to be a negative on our chances at securing a better draft pick. Would have really liked a top 5 pick but that won't be happening now
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 27, 2014, 11:14:05 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on July 27, 2014, 11:12:43 AM
Winning is infectious and would obviously rather watch us win than lose anyday but considering we can't play finals I can't help but feel like these late wins are just going to be a negative on our chances at securing a better draft pick. Would have really liked a top 5 pick but that won't be happening now

glad the players don't have the same attitude  :o
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 27, 2014, 11:43:23 AM
Dimma reckons the recruiters will take the best player available.

I've got faith that we'll pick up a good player regardless of the pick we have.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on July 27, 2014, 12:33:37 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 27, 2014, 11:43:23 AM
Dimma reckons the recruiters will take the best player available.

I've got faith that we'll pick up a good player regardless of the pick we have.

No doubt, but there's a big difference between pick 5 and pick 10.
Hopefully we can pick up a gem anyway
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 27, 2014, 12:50:29 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on July 27, 2014, 12:33:37 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 27, 2014, 11:43:23 AM
Dimma reckons the recruiters will take the best player available.

I've got faith that we'll pick up a good player regardless of the pick we have.

No doubt, but there's a big difference between pick 5 and pick 10.
Hopefully we can pick up a gem anyway
Dunno about that. The top 10-15 or so picks this year may very well be decided by who has which pick as there's no clear standouts (like Tom Boyd or Lachie Whitfield were as #1).
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on July 27, 2014, 12:53:41 PM
We'll soon see. We have a good track record in recent times so fingers crossed we make another good pick
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 27, 2014, 02:00:02 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on July 27, 2014, 12:53:41 PM
We'll soon see. We have a good track record in recent times so fingers crossed we make another good pick
I'm hoping we go for a small-ish type, somebody like Jarrod Pickett. He'd just offer something different to what we've gone for recently.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on July 27, 2014, 03:23:42 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 27, 2014, 02:00:02 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on July 27, 2014, 12:53:41 PM
We'll soon see. We have a good track record in recent times so fingers crossed we make another good pick
I'm hoping we go for a small-ish type, somebody like Jarrod Pickett. He'd just offer something different to what we've gone for recently.

Oi oi oi back up ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 27, 2014, 03:59:54 PM
Quote from: elephants on July 27, 2014, 03:23:42 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 27, 2014, 02:00:02 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on July 27, 2014, 12:53:41 PM
We'll soon see. We have a good track record in recent times so fingers crossed we make another good pick
I'm hoping we go for a small-ish type, somebody like Jarrod Pickett. He'd just offer something different to what we've gone for recently.

Oi oi oi back up ;)
Take Clem.  :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on July 27, 2014, 04:03:11 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 27, 2014, 02:00:02 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on July 27, 2014, 12:53:41 PM
We'll soon see. We have a good track record in recent times so fingers crossed we make another good pick
I'm hoping we go for a small-ish type, somebody like Jarrod Pickett. He'd just offer something different to what we've gone for recently.

Hardwick was asked about it on Gameday this morning and he didn't give much away but did mention that we will go fr the best talent available like we have in recent years, rather than going for role players.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Bully on July 27, 2014, 04:08:14 PM
That goal is freakish, eat your heart out Messi.

Quote from: quinny88 on July 27, 2014, 04:03:11 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 27, 2014, 02:00:02 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on July 27, 2014, 12:53:41 PM
We'll soon see. We have a good track record in recent times so fingers crossed we make another good pick
I'm hoping we go for a small-ish type, somebody like Jarrod Pickett. He'd just offer something different to what we've gone for recently.

Hardwick was asked about it on Gameday this morning and he didn't give much away but did mention that we will go fr the best talent available like we have in recent years, rather than going for role players.

Good discussion, I like the Pickett selection, he's everything we lack at the moment.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 27, 2014, 05:20:55 PM
Quote from: Bully on July 27, 2014, 04:08:14 PM
That goal is freakish, eat your heart out Messi.

Quote from: quinny88 on July 27, 2014, 04:03:11 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 27, 2014, 02:00:02 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on July 27, 2014, 12:53:41 PM
We'll soon see. We have a good track record in recent times so fingers crossed we make another good pick
I'm hoping we go for a small-ish type, somebody like Jarrod Pickett. He'd just offer something different to what we've gone for recently.

Hardwick was asked about it on Gameday this morning and he didn't give much away but did mention that we will go fr the best talent available like we have in recent years, rather than going for role players.

Good discussion, I like the Pickett selection, he's everything we lack at the moment.
Honestly, I think Dimma knows we need somebody like Pickett but didn't wanna name anybody or a type.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on July 27, 2014, 06:52:59 PM
I'll be pretty damn devs if the Tiges swipe Pickett. Although at this rate you might not have a chance :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on July 27, 2014, 07:04:02 PM
I'd love someone like Brayshaw if he slips to us
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Big Mac on July 27, 2014, 07:40:13 PM
Quote from: Toga on July 27, 2014, 07:04:02 PM
I'd love someone like Brayshaw if he slips to us

Don't think it would happen but it might. Apparently he lacks composure in traffic so that could put off some teams
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on July 27, 2014, 09:11:30 PM
Were going to friggen finish 9th again arent we  ::)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 27, 2014, 09:14:40 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on July 27, 2014, 09:11:30 PM
Were going to friggen finish 9th again arent we  ::)
I can't believe I'm saying this... but I want us to finish 9th.

Our season has been terrible, it's as good as finals.  :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on July 27, 2014, 09:35:51 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 27, 2014, 09:14:40 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on July 27, 2014, 09:11:30 PM
Were going to friggen finish 9th again arent we  ::)
I can't believe I'm saying this... but I want us to finish 9th.

Our season has been terrible, it's as good as finals.  :P

I would rather us capitulate than finish 9th again!
Unless Essendon can do us a favour and get stung for drugs again :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 27, 2014, 09:38:23 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on July 27, 2014, 09:35:51 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 27, 2014, 09:14:40 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on July 27, 2014, 09:11:30 PM
Were going to friggen finish 9th again arent we  ::)
I can't believe I'm saying this... but I want us to finish 9th.

Our season has been terrible, it's as good as finals.  :P

I would rather us capitulate than finish 9th again!
Unless Essendon can do us a favour and get stung for drugs again :P
Haha, I just said this yesterday.  ;D
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on July 28, 2014, 01:55:39 PM
@JacquiAReed: Jake King and Damien Hardwick are holding a media conference this afternoon @SENNews
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 28, 2014, 01:57:54 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on July 28, 2014, 01:55:39 PM
@JacquiAReed: Jake King and Damien Hardwick are holding a media conference this afternoon @SENNews
Farewell Push-Up, we love you!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on July 28, 2014, 03:25:57 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 28, 2014, 01:57:54 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on July 28, 2014, 01:55:39 PM
@JacquiAReed: Jake King and Damien Hardwick are holding a media conference this afternoon @SENNews
Farewell Push-Up, we love you!

:'(
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: LF on July 28, 2014, 03:26:35 PM
Richmond ‏@Richmond_FC  1m
Jake King has announced his retirement, effectively immediately http://tige.rs/1o5fr23

Yep confirmed
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on July 28, 2014, 03:28:07 PM
 :'( Sad to see Push Up go, he wasn't the most talented player but he'd give 110%
I'm sure the boys will miss him too, we seemed to play better when he was in the side.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 28, 2014, 03:29:11 PM
RFC will never be the same without him.  :(
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on July 28, 2014, 03:35:53 PM
Congrats on a good career Pushup - not the most talented bloke but he sure did make the most of what he was given. Would have been nice to see him have a farewell game but sounds like he's made the right decision

Sam Lloyd, Benny Lennon, Brett O'Hanlon... Step up!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on July 28, 2014, 03:56:21 PM
Vickery given 9 activation points for his hit on Cox, sent directly to the tribunal.

It's been judged as intentional, severe impact and high contact... So they've given him the highest possible grading for the hit. Will be interesting to see what they end up handing him.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 28, 2014, 03:59:00 PM
I'm thinking 4 weeks, but they might just give him 5 and end his season. Given that it's the highest possible grading, it's not getting reduced to 3 like I thought it might.

The fact that he's already been suspended once before this season for two weeks definitely doesn't help.

I wonder where he plans to go for his holiday.  :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on July 28, 2014, 04:03:22 PM
My Tigers fan mate is hoping he gets suspended for the rest of his career :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on July 28, 2014, 04:51:34 PM
Can't help but get the feeling that they only put it that high because it was Cox he decked...
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on July 28, 2014, 05:41:49 PM
Agreed. But it was still dirty as flower and he should be put away for life.

In other news, lots of talk on Jack Riewoldt to PSG or Barca for a packet of chips.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on July 28, 2014, 05:47:18 PM
Cotchin could get a gig at Barca with those soccer skills
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on July 28, 2014, 05:54:07 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on July 28, 2014, 04:51:34 PM
Can't help but get the feeling that they only put it that high because it was Cox he decked...
Yep, I agree. Saw this here (http://rfcramble.blogspot.com.au/2014/07/clenched-fists-full-hearts.html) and thought it was spot on.

QuoteIf Ty was Stefan Martin, Cox was Charlie Dixon and this had taken place yesterday, we'd barely have heard a murmur about it. But Ty is Ty, Cox is Bambi.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 28, 2014, 06:52:48 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on July 28, 2014, 05:54:07 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on July 28, 2014, 04:51:34 PM
Can't help but get the feeling that they only put it that high because it was Cox he decked...
Yep, I agree. Saw this here (http://rfcramble.blogspot.com.au/2014/07/clenched-fists-full-hearts.html) and thought it was spot on.

QuoteIf Ty was Stefan Martin, Cox was Charlie Dixon and this had taken place yesterday, we'd barely have heard a murmur about it. But Ty is Ty, Cox is Bambi.
Hahahahahaha, that's a good one!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on July 28, 2014, 08:21:16 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on July 28, 2014, 04:51:34 PM
Can't help but get the feeling that they only put it that high because it was Cox he decked...

Lol, really?

High contact? Obvs.
Intentional? Duh.
Severe Impact? It did KO him... This is probably the only one you could argue.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: tor01doc on July 28, 2014, 08:22:45 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on July 28, 2014, 05:54:07 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on July 28, 2014, 04:51:34 PM
Can't help but get the feeling that they only put it that high because it was Cox he decked...
Yep, I agree. Saw this here (http://rfcramble.blogspot.com.au/2014/07/clenched-fists-full-hearts.html) and thought it was spot on.

QuoteIf Ty was Stefan Martin, Cox was Charlie Dixon and this had taken place yesterday, we'd barely have heard a murmur about it. But Ty is Ty, Cox is Bambi.

If Ty was Lethal and Cox was a ranga, he'd .....

But if my Aunty had balls she'd be my Uncle.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on July 28, 2014, 09:02:42 PM
Quote from: elephants on July 28, 2014, 08:21:16 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on July 28, 2014, 04:51:34 PM
Can't help but get the feeling that they only put it that high because it was Cox he decked...

Lol, really?

High contact? Obvs.
Intentional? Duh.
Severe Impact? It did KO him... This is probably the only one you could argue.

Hardly severe contact, seemed more that they just tried to hastily pack him to the tribunal in fear they'd make a wrong decision.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on July 28, 2014, 09:26:52 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on July 28, 2014, 09:02:42 PM
Quote from: elephants on July 28, 2014, 08:21:16 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on July 28, 2014, 04:51:34 PM
Can't help but get the feeling that they only put it that high because it was Cox he decked...

Lol, really?

High contact? Obvs.
Intentional? Duh.
Severe Impact? It did KO him... This is probably the only one you could argue.

Hardly severe contact, seemed more that they just tried to hastily pack him to the tribunal in fear they'd make a wrong decision.

The way the MRP have ruled things though is a heavy influence of the injury suffered. Therefore, a punch to the head KOing a bloke for a minute is always going to be severe.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ziplock on July 28, 2014, 11:46:02 PM
Quote from: elephants on July 28, 2014, 09:26:52 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on July 28, 2014, 09:02:42 PM
Quote from: elephants on July 28, 2014, 08:21:16 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on July 28, 2014, 04:51:34 PM
Can't help but get the feeling that they only put it that high because it was Cox he decked...

Lol, really?

High contact? Obvs.
Intentional? Duh.
Severe Impact? It did KO him... This is probably the only one you could argue.

Hardly severe contact, seemed more that they just tried to hastily pack him to the tribunal in fear they'd make a wrong decision.

The way the MRP have ruled things though is a heavy influence of the injury suffered. Therefore, a punch to the head KOing a bloke for a minute is always going to be severe.

With new emphasis on concussions etc... something that knocked someone out cold instantly for a while is going to be graded harshly.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 29, 2014, 07:58:34 AM
they showed an interesting stat on 'on the couch' last night

when Anthony Miles is at stoppages you win 48.1% of them and lose 34.9% of them

when he is not at stoppages you win 32.3% of them and lose 51.6% of them

moral of the story is he is a gun  ;D
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 29, 2014, 09:05:33 AM
Apparently Miles has overtaken Jelwood in frees for this season.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on July 29, 2014, 09:30:23 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 29, 2014, 09:05:33 AM
Apparently Miles has overtaken Jelwood in frees for this season.
Currently 15th overall in total Frees For of only 7 games :o average of 3.4 a game. The next best for anyone whos played over 1 game is 2.6 (MMurphy). That is quite amazing really
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 29, 2014, 09:47:46 AM
Got posted on the Richmond Football Club Supporters Page. Found it, here it is:

Since Round 12
Contesed Possessions: Selwood 84, Miles 83.
KE%: Selwood 62.4%, Miles 64.8%.
Clearances: Selwood 39, Miles 50
Free kicks: Selwood 14, Miles 24
Miles is seven ahead of anyone else in free-kicks this season, and all of those free-kicks were won in a contest.

Stats thanks to @ScottyBarby on Twitter.


Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on July 29, 2014, 12:10:30 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 29, 2014, 09:47:46 AM
Got posted on the Richmond Football Club Supporters Page. Found it, here it is:

Since Round 12
Contesed Possessions: Selwood 84, Miles 83.
KE%: Selwood 62.4%, Miles 64.8%.
Clearances: Selwood 39, Miles 50
Free kicks: Selwood 14, Miles 24
Miles is seven ahead of anyone else in free-kicks this season, and all of those free-kicks were won in a contest.

Stats thanks to @ScottyBarby on Twitter.

That settles it.. Miles it better than Selwood :D

Yeah he will always get free kicks with the way he gets low and throws himself at the ball. Good hard nut player that we have missed since tucky retired
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on July 29, 2014, 06:21:09 PM
Ty gets four weeks.
About right.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 29, 2014, 06:24:53 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on July 29, 2014, 06:21:09 PM
Ty gets four weeks.
About right.
Yep, which means he'll be back for the Swans game if Dimma wants to pick him.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 29, 2014, 07:26:06 PM
you guys beat GWS by 113 points last time and they have many more injuries now

i reckon Tigers winning by 100+ @13.00 is really good value

i put money on it  :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on July 29, 2014, 08:03:55 PM
Right result for Vickery
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on July 29, 2014, 08:08:26 PM
should've been 5. give him the rest of the year
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on July 29, 2014, 08:17:57 PM
Quote from: brad on July 29, 2014, 08:08:26 PM
should've been 5. give him the rest of the year

He has 95 carry over points now.
Are you allowed to just say ill take an extra week so your points are clear for next year?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on July 29, 2014, 08:37:17 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on July 29, 2014, 08:17:57 PM
Quote from: brad on July 29, 2014, 08:08:26 PM
should've been 5. give him the rest of the year

He has 95 carry over points now.
Are you allowed to just say ill take an extra week so your points are clear for next year?
nah, should be 5 with 95 carry over :P why would they send it to the tribunal if they didn't do shower anyway
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on July 29, 2014, 08:42:42 PM
Yeah 5 would've been right.
Ah well whatever.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on July 29, 2014, 09:10:49 PM
Cox should have got 5 for being such a person. Yeah I went there  8)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on July 29, 2014, 10:48:32 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on July 29, 2014, 09:10:49 PM
Cox should have got 5 for being such a person. Yeah I went there  8)

Must. Resist. Urge. To. Insult. :P

Four on the trot for the Tiges and GWS this week! Ninth is a legitimate possibility! ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ringo on July 30, 2014, 08:15:16 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on July 29, 2014, 09:10:49 PM
Cox should have got 5 for being such a person. Yeah I went there  8)
Well then on that assumption Rance should have got three weeks for being a wuss with Rockys tap to the stomach.  ;D
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 30, 2014, 08:41:54 AM
Great article by Tim Lane on the Vickery incident.

http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/three-culprits-in-vickerycox-incident-20140729-zy86y.html
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on July 30, 2014, 11:16:17 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 30, 2014, 08:41:54 AM
Great article by Tim Lane on the Vickery incident.

http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/three-culprits-in-vickerycox-incident-20140729-zy86y.html

Its all hindsight. Chances are the umps were blind sided anyway.

Regardless, see my point talking to Zip. Elbows to the guts happens 100s of times a season. Not every ruckman feels the need to KO the bloke ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ziplock on July 30, 2014, 11:48:41 AM
Yeah, cox shouldn't have thrown an elbow in, but vickery's strike was a massive escalation and overreation.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on July 30, 2014, 12:11:31 PM
Quote from: elephants on July 30, 2014, 11:16:17 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 30, 2014, 08:41:54 AM
Great article by Tim Lane on the Vickery incident.

http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/three-culprits-in-vickerycox-incident-20140729-zy86y.html

Its all hindsight. Chances are the umps were blind sided anyway.

Regardless, see my point talking to Zip. Elbows to the guts happens 100s of times a season. Not every ruckman feels the need to KO the bloke ;)

Just watched the footage again, the ump saw it and even warned him after the elbow.
Why warn someone? Pay the free kick and get on with it. Whole situation would have been avoided.

Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Rusty00 on July 30, 2014, 12:33:53 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on July 30, 2014, 12:11:31 PM
Quote from: elephants on July 30, 2014, 11:16:17 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 30, 2014, 08:41:54 AM
Great article by Tim Lane on the Vickery incident.

http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/three-culprits-in-vickerycox-incident-20140729-zy86y.html

Its all hindsight. Chances are the umps were blind sided anyway.

Regardless, see my point talking to Zip. Elbows to the guts happens 100s of times a season. Not every ruckman feels the need to KO the bloke ;)

Just watched the footage again, the ump saw it and even warned him after the elbow.
Why warn someone? Pay the free kick and get on with it. Whole situation would have been avoided.
If we pay a free kick every time someone throws back an elbow/forearm into an opponent, there will be 200 free kicks a game.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ziplock on July 30, 2014, 12:50:30 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on July 30, 2014, 12:33:53 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on July 30, 2014, 12:11:31 PM
Quote from: elephants on July 30, 2014, 11:16:17 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 30, 2014, 08:41:54 AM
Great article by Tim Lane on the Vickery incident.

http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/three-culprits-in-vickerycox-incident-20140729-zy86y.html

Its all hindsight. Chances are the umps were blind sided anyway.

Regardless, see my point talking to Zip. Elbows to the guts happens 100s of times a season. Not every ruckman feels the need to KO the bloke ;)

Just watched the footage again, the ump saw it and even warned him after the elbow.
Why warn someone? Pay the free kick and get on with it. Whole situation would have been avoided.
If we pay a free kick every time someone throws back an elbow/forearm into an opponent, there will be 200 free kicks a game.

maybe for the first week, then players would stop being dirty little pricks :P

Forearms aren't really much of an issue- the increased area dissipates the force, and accidental forearms are always going to happen. It's a lot harder to accidentally elbow someone though.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on July 30, 2014, 02:44:56 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on July 30, 2014, 12:33:53 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on July 30, 2014, 12:11:31 PM
Quote from: elephants on July 30, 2014, 11:16:17 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 30, 2014, 08:41:54 AM
Great article by Tim Lane on the Vickery incident.

http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/three-culprits-in-vickerycox-incident-20140729-zy86y.html

Its all hindsight. Chances are the umps were blind sided anyway.

Regardless, see my point talking to Zip. Elbows to the guts happens 100s of times a season. Not every ruckman feels the need to KO the bloke ;)

Just watched the footage again, the ump saw it and even warned him after the elbow.
Why warn someone? Pay the free kick and get on with it. Whole situation would have been avoided.
If we pay a free kick every time someone throws back an elbow/forearm into an opponent, there will be 200 free kicks a game.

It wasn't just a soft little nudge though it was a big elbow. The umpires admitted that they should have paid a free kick
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on July 30, 2014, 02:45:27 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on July 30, 2014, 12:33:53 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on July 30, 2014, 12:11:31 PM
Quote from: elephants on July 30, 2014, 11:16:17 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 30, 2014, 08:41:54 AM
Great article by Tim Lane on the Vickery incident.

http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/three-culprits-in-vickerycox-incident-20140729-zy86y.html

Its all hindsight. Chances are the umps were blind sided anyway.

Regardless, see my point talking to Zip. Elbows to the guts happens 100s of times a season. Not every ruckman feels the need to KO the bloke ;)

Just watched the footage again, the ump saw it and even warned him after the elbow.
Why warn someone? Pay the free kick and get on with it. Whole situation would have been avoided.
If we pay a free kick every time someone throws back an elbow/forearm into an opponent, there will be 200 free kicks a game.

^
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on July 30, 2014, 02:48:41 PM
Mackay
@superfooty: Cross another name off the free agency list as David Mackay signs a four-year deal with @Adelaide_FC
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on July 30, 2014, 05:33:37 PM
So apparently we are one of four teams interested in Bulldogs RFA Shaun Higgins... What are everyone's thoughts on him?

He's a classy enough player that's for sure but he has had so many injury troubles it makes me think it is a risky move... And not sure whether we have other areas of more need (although he won't cost us anything by way of draft picks)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on July 30, 2014, 05:50:13 PM
Steve Morris ruled out for 1-2 weeks with a hand injury... http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-07-30/morris-to-miss

Wouldn't mind seeing Brad Helbig or Matt McDonough get a run as both have been playing down back in the two's, although Ricky Petterd is probably likely to come in if he recovers from his injury
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 30, 2014, 06:11:50 PM
Yep, I can see Ricky coming back in if fit to replace Morris, McDonough wasn't bad on the weekend though.

Quote from: Toga on July 30, 2014, 05:33:37 PM
So apparently we are one of four teams interested in Bulldogs RFA Shaun Higgins... What are everyone's thoughts on him?

He's a classy enough player that's for sure but he has had so many injury troubles it makes me think it is a risky move... And not sure whether we have other areas of more need (although he won't cost us anything by way of draft picks)

Yeah, after the Knights move hasn't exactly paid off and the Hampson trade either, not sure whether recruiting Higgins is the right move. However, I won't be disappointed if we do get him.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 31, 2014, 09:27:39 AM
Liking what I've read and seen about Paul Ahern.

Could be a great option.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on July 31, 2014, 11:07:02 AM
Not sure how much you can read into this but Hardwick on 3AW made this comment about ROK when talking about free agency

"A guy like Ryan O'Keefe, he's been playing in the NEAFL for 6 months. I'm sitting there going... Jeez, I wouldn't mind O'Keefe in my side"

Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on July 31, 2014, 11:12:18 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 31, 2014, 11:07:02 AM
Not sure how much you can read into this but Hardwick on 3AW made this comment about ROK when talking about free agency

"A guy like Ryan O'Keefe, he's been playing in the NEAFL for 6 months. I'm sitting there going... Jeez, I wouldn't mind O'Keefe in my side"
It's official, ROK to Richmond.  :P
I was thinking about this when I heard about ROK wanting to leave, but I really don't think we really need another slow midfielder, we already have Matt Thomas.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 31, 2014, 11:39:10 AM
didn't he used to be a mid/fwd type? he would look good in any teams forward line
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on July 31, 2014, 11:40:14 AM
As a guy that played some of his career in the forward line I think he could be a very good pickup for us. Would only play one or two years but obviously isn't past it, but could be a great addition to our forward line and midfield rotations as an experienced player that could really help the development of guys like Cotchin, Dusty, Vlastuin and Conca, but also have an impact on field.

Wouldn't cost us a lot, get it done Tiges ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on July 31, 2014, 12:30:59 PM
Thomas and Rok are not comparable lol
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on July 31, 2014, 12:37:34 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on July 31, 2014, 12:30:59 PM
Thomas and Rok are not comparable lol
I was more trying to say, we've already got some slow old mids like Thomas and Jacko, so do we really need another?
I liked Toga's post though, he could be useful playing HFF and rotating through the middle and he wouldn't cost a lot.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 31, 2014, 12:45:10 PM
I don't mind the idea of ROK sitting at HF with the occasional run through the middle.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on July 31, 2014, 01:31:34 PM
Yeah forget about him playing midfield. Wherever he goes he will be playing as a high half fwd.
Not sure that Richmond is a good fit though. More likely that a Club in a premiership window would grab him for a year or 2
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 31, 2014, 06:38:28 PM
Petterd and Griffiths in for Morris and Vickery. Happy with those ins.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on July 31, 2014, 07:23:44 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 31, 2014, 06:38:28 PM
Petterd and Griffiths in for Morris and Vickery. Happy with those ins.
Yep, I think Griff deserves another chance. McBean will get his chance eventually.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on July 31, 2014, 08:38:50 PM
No-brainer ins IMO.. Good to see Griffiths get another chance as I am a bit worried he might be hesitant about his future at the club if he doesn't start getting some more opportunity :-X
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on July 31, 2014, 09:16:46 PM
Quote from: Toga on July 31, 2014, 08:38:50 PM
No-brainer ins IMO.. Good to see Griffiths get another chance as I am a bit worried he might be hesitant about his future at the club if he doesn't start getting some more opportunity :-X
Nah, I think he'll be fine.

He got dropped after a few bad games.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on August 01, 2014, 12:23:20 AM
Watching Fyfe tonight and damn I wish he came to Richmond :(
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 01, 2014, 10:23:14 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on August 01, 2014, 12:23:20 AM
Watching Fyfe tonight and damn I wish he came to Richmond :(
never in doubt 8)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on August 01, 2014, 03:13:03 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 01, 2014, 10:23:14 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on August 01, 2014, 12:23:20 AM
Watching Fyfe tonight and damn I wish he came to Richmond :(
never in doubt 8)

He did look awfully good in the Y&B though  :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 01, 2014, 03:45:22 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on August 01, 2014, 03:13:03 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 01, 2014, 10:23:14 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on August 01, 2014, 12:23:20 AM
Watching Fyfe tonight and damn I wish he came to Richmond :(
never in doubt 8)

He did look awfully good in the Y&B though  :P
stop it lol
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on August 02, 2014, 03:16:37 PM
McBean has 4 goals at 3QTR Time #Gun
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 02, 2014, 03:20:53 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 02, 2014, 03:16:37 PM
McBean has 4 goals at 3QTR Time #Gun
:o ;D
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: shaker on August 02, 2014, 06:27:38 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 02, 2014, 03:16:37 PM
McBean has 4 goals at 3QTR Time #Gun

Yes and why is he not playing against GWS , coach is trying to save his own arse instead of looking to the future  >:(
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 02, 2014, 06:48:38 PM
Quote from: shaker on August 02, 2014, 06:27:38 PM
Yes and why is he not playing against GWS , coach is trying to save his own arse instead of looking to the future  >:(
Mate seriously, just stop the flowering pessimism.

Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 02, 2014, 06:51:47 PM
Also, Conca's hit was just stupid.

Intentional, low impact, contact to the head... that's like 6 points which I think is 3 weeks? Good record and a guilty plea reduces it to just the one week off?

Fair assessment?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on August 02, 2014, 07:03:27 PM
Haha I've seen a lot of commentators saying 3-4.

flower it was weak though.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 02, 2014, 07:09:27 PM
Dusty needs a new haircut wtf is he thinking it's shocking
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: shaker on August 02, 2014, 07:19:37 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 02, 2014, 06:48:38 PM
Quote from: shaker on August 02, 2014, 06:27:38 PM
Yes and why is he not playing against GWS , coach is trying to save his own arse instead of looking to the future  >:(
Mate seriously, just stop the flowering pessimism.



Not pessimism Nigey  just realism and will not stop till I can see some change in what this coach is doing , this season is flowered so lets play what young guys we have , you can sugarcoat every little thing they do this year but as far as I'm concerned Dimma has led us on a path like moneyball the movie since he got there , so you might not like what I say but I am sure if we continue on this path we will not get anywhere.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on August 02, 2014, 07:26:23 PM
Quote from: shaker on August 02, 2014, 06:27:38 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 02, 2014, 03:16:37 PM
McBean has 4 goals at 3QTR Time #Gun

Yes and why is he not playing against GWS , coach is trying to save his own arse instead of looking to the future  >:(

Who would he play instead of today though? Griffiths has a lot of potential to be a spearhead of our fwd line in the future as well...
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: shaker on August 02, 2014, 07:37:09 PM
Quote from: Toga on August 02, 2014, 07:26:23 PM
Quote from: shaker on August 02, 2014, 06:27:38 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 02, 2014, 03:16:37 PM
McBean has 4 goals at 3QTR Time #Gun

Yes and why is he not playing against GWS , coach is trying to save his own arse instead of looking to the future  >:(

Who would he play instead of today though? Griffiths has a lot of potential to be a spearhead of our fwd line in the future as well...

That's what I'm saying bugger Griffiths he has had years give McBean a crack give Lennon a go and Gordon a full game we really have not got many good young guys as it is but I'm called negative for saying this jeez what's the worst that can happen we get a lower draft pick  :o
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ziplock on August 02, 2014, 08:22:08 PM
Quote from: shaker on August 02, 2014, 07:37:09 PM
Quote from: Toga on August 02, 2014, 07:26:23 PM
Quote from: shaker on August 02, 2014, 06:27:38 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 02, 2014, 03:16:37 PM
McBean has 4 goals at 3QTR Time #Gun

Yes and why is he not playing against GWS , coach is trying to save his own arse instead of looking to the future  >:(

Who would he play instead of today though? Griffiths has a lot of potential to be a spearhead of our fwd line in the future as well...

That's what I'm saying bugger Griffiths he has had years give McBean a crack give Lennon a go and Gordon a full game we really have not got many good young guys as it is but I'm called negative for saying this jeez what's the worst that can happen we get a lower draft pick  :o

I'd say that if whatever you were doing was still failing, but you've won 5 in a row.... clearly something's working atm, so the coach is going to continue playing the best players they can. There's a fine line between developing players for the future and tanking, but if you're on a winning streak, you'll cross that line. Griffiths wasn't bad enough tonight to really warrant dropping.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: shaker on August 02, 2014, 08:37:11 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on August 02, 2014, 08:22:08 PM
Quote from: shaker on August 02, 2014, 07:37:09 PM
Quote from: Toga on August 02, 2014, 07:26:23 PM
Quote from: shaker on August 02, 2014, 06:27:38 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 02, 2014, 03:16:37 PM
McBean has 4 goals at 3QTR Time #Gun

Yes and why is he not playing against GWS , coach is trying to save his own arse instead of looking to the future  >:(

Who would he play instead of today though? Griffiths has a lot of potential to be a spearhead of our fwd line in the future as well...

That's what I'm saying bugger Griffiths he has had years give McBean a crack give Lennon a go and Gordon a full game we really have not got many good young guys as it is but I'm called negative for saying this jeez what's the worst that can happen we get a lower draft pick  :o

I'd say that if whatever you were doing was still failing, but you've won 5 in a row.... clearly something's working atm, so the coach is going to continue playing the best players they can. There's a fine line between developing players for the future and tanking, but if you're on a winning streak, you'll cross that line. Griffiths wasn't bad enough tonight to really warrant dropping.

Yes winning 5 in row is great but is not going to get us anywhere this year it's to late, might make the coach feel good but it's not getting games into young guys , we have some very good players but this squad is not going to match it with the best teams the quicker we change that the quicker the success
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 02, 2014, 09:08:53 PM
Quote from: shaker on August 02, 2014, 07:19:37 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 02, 2014, 06:48:38 PM
Quote from: shaker on August 02, 2014, 06:27:38 PM
Yes and why is he not playing against GWS , coach is trying to save his own arse instead of looking to the future  >:(
Mate seriously, just stop the flowering pessimism.
Not pessimism Nigey  just realism and will not stop till I can see some change in what this coach is doing , this season is flowered so lets play what young guys we have , you can sugarcoat every little thing they do this year but as far as I'm concerned Dimma has led us on a path like moneyball the movie since he got there , so you might not like what I say but I am sure if we continue on this path we will not get anywhere.
You're basically calling for Dimma's head.

Let's be honest, the team's development and growth under Dimma has been amazing to date. I'm sure you're old enough to remember the days of Danny Frawley and Terry Wallace, those years weren't great for the club and lot of terrible mistakes were made. Since Dimma's been in charge, the team's moved forward in just about every aspect.

Our poor start to the season has set us back. Realistically, we're not going to make finals unless we win every game from here on out and other results go our way. However, there's nothing wrong with aiming at finals regardless of how slim our chances are. We're also currently on a win streak. For that to happen, you have to been playing well and the team has had minimal changes in this time. There's no point changing a winning formula just because we can't 'realistically' make finals.

I daresay Griffiths has arguably the most potential on our list. He's a big guy, so naturally he's taken a why to develop but this year he's shown glimpses of the player he can be. We've even got Choco working with him this year, and we all know how good a coach he is. He worked with Dusty last year and that worked wonders. McBean isn't going anywhere and won't walk out on the club if we don't get games into him right now. Lennon and a handful of others have been stiff to miss in recent weeks, but we can only play 22 each week. Particularly if we're winning, there's no need to make too many changes.

We don't have many good young guys? Ellis, Vlastuin, Arnot, Griffiths, McBean, McDonough, O'Hanlon, Lloyd, Gordon, Lennon just to name some guys.

TL;DR - Be happy, show some optimism, have faith in the boys and trust in Dimma.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Big Mac on August 02, 2014, 09:38:40 PM
btw - Winning does a lot more than make the coach feel good. It lifts the whole atmosphere around the club and makes the players excited to play. It also makes those in the VFL work as hard as they can to make it. Not to mention the financial benefits from extra sponsors and members. IMO that's worth much more than the development some of your younger guys might get from playing in the firsts
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 02, 2014, 09:44:26 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on August 02, 2014, 09:38:40 PM
btw - Winning does a lot more than make the coach feel good. It lifts the whole atmosphere around the club and makes the players excited to play. It also makes those in the VFL work as hard as they can to make it. Not to mention the financial benefits from extra sponsors and members. IMO that's worth much more than the development some of your younger guys might get from playing in the firsts
Exactly.

Here's a little bit from the VFL match report on the RFC site.

"Experienced midfielder Shaun Grigg stood up when the game was on the line and dominated the stoppages in the last quarter to finish with a team-high 36 disposals (25 contested) and a staggering 19 clearances.

Liam McBean continued his exciting goalkicking form, finishing with four goals, including a superb gather and snap from 35 metres out.

Matt McDonough, who collected 17 disposals, was lively across half-forward and converted well to finish with three goals. Fellow forward Aaron Edwards constantly provided an option and also booted three majors.

Matt Arnot (24 disposals), Matt Dea (20) and Chris Knights (19) were all solid performers."

That's seven AFL listed players all posting good numbers and performing well in a close loss (it was a game they should won). They know they're playing for their places in the side. Even if they don't get picked the next week, they're gonna try and kick four or rack up 36 to push their case for selection.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: shaker on August 02, 2014, 09:47:44 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 02, 2014, 09:08:53 PM
Quote from: shaker on August 02, 2014, 07:19:37 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 02, 2014, 06:48:38 PM
Quote from: shaker on August 02, 2014, 06:27:38 PM
Yes and why is he not playing against GWS , coach is trying to save his own arse instead of looking to the future  >:(
Mate seriously, just stop the flowering pessimism.
Not pessimism Nigey  just realism and will not stop till I can see some change in what this coach is doing , this season is flowered so lets play what young guys we have , you can sugarcoat every little thing they do this year but as far as I'm concerned Dimma has led us on a path like moneyball the movie since he got there , so you might not like what I say but I am sure if we continue on this path we will not get anywhere.
You're basically calling for Dimma's head.

Let's be honest, the team's development and growth under Dimma has been amazing to date. I'm sure you're old enough to remember the days of Danny Frawley and Terry Wallace, those years weren't great for the club and lot of terrible mistakes were made. Since Dimma's been in charge, the team's moved forward in just about every aspect.

Our poor start to the season has set us back. Realistically, we're not going to make finals unless we win every game from here on out and other results go our way. However, there's nothing wrong with aiming at finals regardless of how slim our chances are. We're also currently on a win streak. For that to happen, you have to been playing well and the team has had minimal changes in this time. There's no point changing a winning formula just because we can't 'realistically' make finals.

I daresay Griffiths has arguably the most potential on our list. He's a big guy, so naturally he's taken a why to develop but this year he's shown glimpses of the player he can be. We've even got Choco working with him this year, and we all know how good a coach he is. He worked with Dusty last year and that worked wonders. McBean isn't going anywhere and won't walk out on the club if we don't get games into him right now. Lennon and a handful of others have been stiff to miss in recent weeks, but we can only play 22 each week. Particularly if we're winning, there's no need to make too many changes.

We don't have many good young guys? Ellis, Vlastuin, Arnot, Griffiths, McBean, McDonough, O'Hanlon, Lloyd, Gordon, Lennon just to name some guys.

TL;DR - Be happy, show some optimism, have faith in the boys and trust in Dimma.

Will have one more crack Nigey haha out of those guys you listed Ellis is not a new young player , Vlastuin who is already a regular and we need more like him out of the rest I see McBean , Gordon , Lennon with a future the rest have done little , but what I'm trying to say that I see successful teams like the Hawks and the Swans blooding more young guys than us but I suppose that is why they are successful

As for Dimma he has had 5 years and gone backwards this year, he will coach us next year and I hope he can prove me wrong but he needs a top 4 or very near that otherwise if we have another year like this he must go that will be 6 years and there will be talk of rebuilding another few years and unsuccessful coaches don't last that long , also he has made some poor coaching decisions in box this year especially earlier this year

It is great to win 5 in a row but we will not make the finals the Swans in Sydney in the last should put that to bed if it even goes that far , I'm just thinking of the future for the Tiges and we must hit the trade time hard this year unload a lot of dead wood and either chase someone like Tom Mitchell or Dylan Shiel or get some early draft picks and STOP GETTING MID AGED SPUDS FROM OTHER CLUBS instead of young blokes cheers
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on August 02, 2014, 09:48:41 PM
We're playing some good footy atm and if think it's more important to get some momentum for next year, then tank.
A few results go our way this season (games against Gold Coast, Melbourne, Bulldogs) and we'd be in the 8 and we'd think Dimma is a genius. I don't think we have to panic just get, I said earlier in the year I'd like to give Dimma until the end of next year before asking for him to be sacked.
Playing Griff over McBean wasn't a bad call, Griff is more AFL ready and McBean has got plenty of time to develop.

About today's game, we were lucky to get the four points. We were quite lazy so I'm just happy we got the win. Massive game against the Bombers this week.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on August 02, 2014, 09:53:33 PM
I don't think our recruiting has been as bad as some say.
Maric was a great pick up.
Houli was a good pick up too.
Petterd is unfairly criticised, he was good again today.
Miles is a gun, enough said.

Pretty unlikely we'll get either Shiel or TMitch, but I hope we have a go at them
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on August 02, 2014, 10:41:42 PM
Bugger Griffiths? He is only 22 years old and has had under 20 games of experience before this year... Give him a chance for god's sake!

Huge potential, take a look at that boot on him - find some more consistency and we have a gem on our hands. Not to mention he's the only bloke that was able to give Ivvy a chop out in the ruck today. McBean is still a bit undersized for that. Wouldn't mind seeing McBean get a run alongside Jroo & Vickery/Griffiths (as a third tall) but don't think he's gonna be up to a second tall/pinch hitting ruck at this stage of his development.

As for our mature-age recruits, as Roo said I think we are getting a bit carried away here... Maric, Houli and Miles have been invaluable so far in their time at the club, while Petterd and Grigg do their bits for the team despite being heavily criticised. Good to see Grigg had something like 27 contested possies today in the VFL - that's what we want to see from him!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: shaker on August 02, 2014, 10:50:13 PM
Ha ha fair dinkum all you guys must have rose colored glasses on all I see from a lot of these guys are players that cannot hold a spot in a team that has performed poorly and some young guys that don't get a crack , maybe I should go to the specsavers next week get some of these glasses  ::)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on August 02, 2014, 10:54:36 PM
Quote from: Toga on August 02, 2014, 10:41:42 PM
Bugger Griffiths? He is only 22 years old and has had under 20 games of experience before this year... Give him a chance for god's sake!

Huge potential, take a look at that boot on him - find some more consistency and we have a gem on our hands. Not to mention he's the only bloke that was able to give Ivvy a chop out in the ruck today. McBean is still a bit undersized for that. Wouldn't mind seeing McBean get a run alongside Jroo & Vickery/Griffiths (as a third tall) but don't think he's gonna be up to a second tall/pinch hitting ruck at this stage of his development.

As for our mature-age recruits, as Roo said I think we are getting a bit carried away here... Maric, Houli and Miles have been invaluable so far in their time at the club, while Petterd and Grigg do their bits for the team despite being heavily criticised. Good to see Grigg had something like 27 contested possies today in the VFL - that's what we want to see from him!
Yep agreed about McBean, McBean would've been killed by Mummy in the ruck, so Griff was picked.
McBean's time will come.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 02, 2014, 11:06:32 PM
Quote from: shaker on August 02, 2014, 10:50:13 PM
Ha ha fair dinkum all you guys must have rose colored glasses on all I see from a lot of these guys are players that cannot hold a spot in a team that has performed poorly and some young guys that don't get a crack , maybe I should go to the specsavers next week get some of these glasses  ::)
Or maybe you should give yourself an uppercut...
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: shaker on August 02, 2014, 11:10:43 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 02, 2014, 11:06:32 PM
Quote from: shaker on August 02, 2014, 10:50:13 PM
Ha ha fair dinkum all you guys must have rose colored glasses on all I see from a lot of these guys are players that cannot hold a spot in a team that has performed poorly and some young guys that don't get a crack , maybe I should go to the specsavers next week get some of these glasses  ::)
Or maybe you should give yourself an uppercut...

Now now Nigey don't get nasty just because you see things a different way , I'll just try the glasses first.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 02, 2014, 11:12:42 PM
Quote from: shaker on August 02, 2014, 11:10:43 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 02, 2014, 11:06:32 PM
Quote from: shaker on August 02, 2014, 10:50:13 PM
Ha ha fair dinkum all you guys must have rose colored glasses on all I see from a lot of these guys are players that cannot hold a spot in a team that has performed poorly and some young guys that don't get a crack , maybe I should go to the specsavers next week get some of these glasses  ::)
Or maybe you should give yourself an uppercut...

Now now Nigey don't get nasty just because you see things a different way , I'll just try the glasses first.
All I can is I am glad you have zero influence into the direction of the Richmond Football Club or we'd be in a worse position than St Kilda right now.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: shaker on August 02, 2014, 11:25:35 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 02, 2014, 11:12:42 PM
Quote from: shaker on August 02, 2014, 11:10:43 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 02, 2014, 11:06:32 PM
Quote from: shaker on August 02, 2014, 10:50:13 PM
Ha ha fair dinkum all you guys must have rose colored glasses on all I see from a lot of these guys are players that cannot hold a spot in a team that has performed poorly and some young guys that don't get a crack , maybe I should go to the specsavers next week get some of these glasses  ::)
Or maybe you should give yourself an uppercut...

Now now Nigey don't get nasty just because you see things a different way , I'll just try the glasses first.
All I can is I am glad you have zero influence into the direction of the Richmond Football Club or we'd be in a worse position than St Kilda right now.

We all have zero influence in those things and we can go back and forth for days on this but when it boils down to it there all only opinions no one will know what will happen next year until then so maybe we revisit this next august and see who was on the money .
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on August 02, 2014, 11:25:51 PM
Quote from: shaker on August 02, 2014, 10:50:13 PM
Ha ha fair dinkum all you guys must have rose colored glasses on all I see from a lot of these guys are players that cannot hold a spot in a team that has performed poorly and some young guys that don't get a crack , maybe I should go to the specsavers next week get some of these glasses  ::)

I dont really understand mate what players are you talking about when you say "players that cannot hold a spot in a team that has performed poorly"?

I would love to see guys like McDonough, Lennon and McBean get games as well but you can only pick so many players each week!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: shaker on August 02, 2014, 11:35:35 PM
Quote from: Toga on August 02, 2014, 11:25:51 PM
Quote from: shaker on August 02, 2014, 10:50:13 PM
Ha ha fair dinkum all you guys must have rose colored glasses on all I see from a lot of these guys are players that cannot hold a spot in a team that has performed poorly and some young guys that don't get a crack , maybe I should go to the specsavers next week get some of these glasses  ::)

I dont really understand mate what players are you talking about when you say "players that cannot hold a spot in a team that has performed poorly"?

I would love to see guys like McDonough, Lennon and McBean get games as well but you can only pick so many players each week!

Like I said to Nigey we can go back and forth for days on this Toga , for what I can see that a lot of you guys think the Tiges are going in the right direction and I don't and the only way is to see where they are this time next year cheers
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 02, 2014, 11:45:09 PM
I can guarantee you right now it will be us.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: shaker on August 02, 2014, 11:50:04 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 02, 2014, 11:45:09 PM
I can guarantee you right now it will be us.

No guarantees in life Nigey and that is still only an opinion  ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on August 03, 2014, 12:01:44 AM
It is not as if Richmond are coming last, they have won 5 in a row and are a mathematical chance of the 8. Yes, they have gone backwards this year but have shown they can play. Giving up and just playing kids for the sake of it is silly.

Also, the argument that there is no point winning now as it is too late is flowering ridiculous. Teams and players play AFL to win, regardless of where they are on the ladder. Just cause they are not a chance of playing finals does not mean they all of a sudden have the mentality that they want high draft picks like some of the fans do. Playing kids that definitely are not best 22 when you're best 22 players despite being older are fit because winning is supposedly not important to the club due to their ladder position is pretty much tanking.

That is the most Richmond defending I will ever do for the rest of my life. :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on August 03, 2014, 07:42:56 PM
Shaker, McBean isn't getting games because his defensive side is sub AFL standard.
No point throwing him in to be made a fool out of and put a dent in his confidence.
He was always going to be a long term project and will be worth the wait.

Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on August 04, 2014, 01:50:58 PM
Grigg dominated in the VFL, so expect him to come in for Conca.
Lloyd has been quite, the last two weeks so Madonna could replace him.
Any other possible changes?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 04, 2014, 01:54:23 PM
Nippa hasn't been bad as sub so I expect him to stay in the side as our sub.

Those are the two changes I'd make, but McDonough has to play forward (otherwise bring in O'Hanlon).
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 04, 2014, 02:35:27 PM
hope Miles bounces back after a quiet game
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on August 04, 2014, 02:48:29 PM
2 dumb acts 2 weeks in a row could really hurt us  ::)
Really need a full strength side to get over the Bombers.

I'm trying my best not to get excited but if we win this game we will only be a game outside the 8
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on August 04, 2014, 04:55:30 PM
Only 2 weeks for Conca.. Lucky man!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on August 04, 2014, 05:58:33 PM
Actually was expecting about two weeks for the hit... It looked really bad and I don't condone it at all but didn't think it could be graded anything higher than 'medium impact' so the two-week ban with an early plea seems about right.

Still, very stupid thing to do and hope he pulls his head in when he comes back into the team. As already said, Grigg the obvious replacement for him this week.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 04, 2014, 05:59:46 PM
Carlisle went in for scans on his knee so might not play :-X :'(
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on August 04, 2014, 06:01:24 PM
I would have confidence that Rance could hold him well anyway, but that could only help us... A very good player when in form
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on August 04, 2014, 06:05:46 PM
Quote from: Toga on August 04, 2014, 05:58:33 PM
Actually was expecting about two weeks for the hit... It looked really bad and I don't condone it at all but didn't think it could be graded anything higher than 'medium impact' so the two-week ban with an early plea seems about right.

Still, very stupid thing to do and hope he pulls his head in when he comes back into the team. As already said, Grigg the obvious replacement for him this week.

Yeah I was more concerned about it getting taken straight to the tribunal as it was a strange incident.
Probably would have got a lot more if it did. Good result really, still stupid thing to do though.

Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 04, 2014, 06:25:51 PM
It could have been a whole lot worse because the act was pretty despicable but I think the penalty is about right given the system. 
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on August 04, 2014, 06:33:35 PM
Was expecting three weeks for Conca, so two is good.
If Rance didn't miss games, then he'd probably be leading our B&F, he's been great this season. I was looking forward to seeing how he would go against Carlisle.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 04, 2014, 06:35:35 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 04, 2014, 06:33:35 PM
Was expecting three weeks for Conca, so two is good.
If Rance didn't miss games, then he'd probably be leading our B&F, he's been great this season. I was looking forward to seeing how he would go against Carlisle.
Is Carlisle sure to miss or is it just speculation?

If he does, that's a Bombers forward line without Carlisle, Joe and Ambrose. Who plays as their tall/main forward target?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on August 04, 2014, 06:40:26 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 04, 2014, 06:35:35 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 04, 2014, 06:33:35 PM
Was expecting three weeks for Conca, so two is good.
If Rance didn't miss games, then he'd probably be leading our B&F, he's been great this season. I was looking forward to seeing how he would go against Carlisle.
Is Carlisle sure to miss or is it just speculation?

If he does, that's a Bombers forward line without Carlisle, Joe and Ambrose. Who plays as their tall/main forward target?
Just speculation atm.
Here's a tweet about him, so he may line up
@MattThompson: Essendon's Jake Carlisle has just had a scan on sore leg. Wasn't very chatty on way out. Reckons he'll be right to play against Tigers. @afl

Essendon also have Belly/Ryder up there. Not sure who else would come in.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on August 04, 2014, 06:43:05 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 04, 2014, 06:35:35 PM
Is Carlisle sure to miss or is it just speculation?

If he does, that's a Bombers forward line without Carlisle, Joe and Ambrose. Who plays as their tall/main forward target?

Bellchambers would be the main forward target, why would Ambrose miss though? And apparently Ariel Steinberg has been close to debut over the last few weeks and I think he can play at either end
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 04, 2014, 06:44:16 PM
They did just elevate Steinberg who usually plays as the third tall at either end, maybe he'll come in.

Quote from: Toga on August 04, 2014, 06:43:05 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 04, 2014, 06:35:35 PM
Is Carlisle sure to miss or is it just speculation?

If he does, that's a Bombers forward line without Carlisle, Joe and Ambrose. Who plays as their tall/main forward target?

Bellchambers would be the main forward target, why would Ambrose miss though? And apparently Ariel Steinberg has been close to debut over the last few weeks and I think he can play at either end
Pretty sure I just read this afternoon that Ambrose has a fractured jaw.

Link to the thread: http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,98136.0.html
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on August 04, 2014, 06:45:18 PM
Yup Ambrose fractured a jaw and Carlisle had scans today
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on August 04, 2014, 06:48:30 PM
Yeah you'd think Steinberg could come in.
Hardingham and Pears are other options.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ziplock on August 04, 2014, 07:13:21 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on August 04, 2014, 04:55:30 PM
Only 2 weeks for Conca.. Lucky man!

So, so lucky.

Such a dangerous punch to throw- really got lucky he didn't seriously  hurt smith.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 04, 2014, 07:16:32 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 04, 2014, 06:48:30 PM
Yeah you'd think Steinberg could come in.
Hardingham and Pears are other options.

yeah Hurley could always play forward obviouslynot sure he is really needed in defense vs you guys anyway without Vickery, Fletch can go to Griffiths
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on August 04, 2014, 07:31:57 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on August 04, 2014, 07:13:21 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on August 04, 2014, 04:55:30 PM
Only 2 weeks for Conca.. Lucky man!

So, so lucky.

Such a dangerous punch to throw- really got lucky he didn't seriously  hurt smith.

Yeah was more of a forearm than a punch but I know what you mean.
The funny thing is when the umpire saw it and paid a free kick he threw his arms out as if to say "what did i do?" lol
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on August 04, 2014, 07:43:10 PM
The penalty was definitely right, was nothing like Lake or Vickey incident in terms of severity.

That said, if he got him in the right spot it would've been ugly
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 04, 2014, 07:58:52 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on August 04, 2014, 07:43:10 PM
The penalty was definitely right, was nothing like Lake or Vickey incident in terms of severity.

That said, if he got him in the right spot it would've been ugly
Yep. In terms of severity, it was nothing.

As far as stupidity, it tops them both. It didn't need to happen.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 04, 2014, 08:29:20 PM
oh yeah Zaharakis was in pain after the game with his knees so i'm worried about him also
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 05, 2014, 08:26:43 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBD49n36F9k

runs away
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on August 05, 2014, 02:48:09 PM
I'd rather us just lose every game haha
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Bully on August 05, 2014, 09:01:03 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on August 04, 2014, 07:43:10 PM
The penalty was definitely right, was nothing like Lake or Vickey incident in terms of severity.

That said, if he got him in the right spot it would've been ugly

Spot on, low impact and to the neck region. Deserved to be rubbed out but not for more than what he got.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on August 05, 2014, 09:49:49 PM
Just saw on the news "a prominent Melbourne lawyer is filing an assault claim against Conca".

What. I wasn't really watching but what.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 05, 2014, 09:52:49 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 05, 2014, 09:49:49 PM
Just saw on the news "a prominent Melbourne lawyer is filing an assault claim against Conca".

What. I wasn't really watching but what.
I'd like a source.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: LF on August 05, 2014, 09:54:37 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 05, 2014, 09:52:49 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 05, 2014, 09:49:49 PM
Just saw on the news "a prominent Melbourne lawyer is filing an assault claim against Conca".

What. I wasn't really watching but what.
I'd like a source.

I saw something about this earlier today
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 05, 2014, 09:55:49 PM
Quote from: luvfooty on August 05, 2014, 09:54:37 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 05, 2014, 09:52:49 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 05, 2014, 09:49:49 PM
Just saw on the news "a prominent Melbourne lawyer is filing an assault claim against Conca".

What. I wasn't really watching but what.
I'd like a source.

I saw something about this earlier today
Anyone got footage or a link or something...
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: LF on August 05, 2014, 09:56:34 PM
Found it

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-midfielder-reece-conca-should-be-charged-with-assault-for-cowardly-act-says-lawyer-david-galbally/story-fni5f9jb-1227013684413

Not sure if he is being charged or not but this was what I saw earlier today
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on August 05, 2014, 09:57:28 PM
Soz Nigella, just saw it flash up on ten news over here. I was eating dinner though so I wasn't really paying attention. Been plenty if coverage of the Conca case though with Conca being a WA lad
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 05, 2014, 10:01:22 PM
Just wanted to make sure this was legit and also curious to see what was actually said.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on August 05, 2014, 10:03:47 PM
All good brother all good
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on August 05, 2014, 10:06:28 PM
He's joking right?


right?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on August 05, 2014, 10:07:36 PM
Must be a bombers fan lol
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ziplock on August 06, 2014, 12:49:22 AM
A lot of what happens in football would be classified as assault in real life- it's one of the reasons why I feel a little bad for players when they do have off the field incidents- they've basically trained to hurt people on the field, and some of that aggression translates off it.

Honestly, Smith would probably have a legitimate legal case against him- a judge won't really give a flying flower that it was on the football field, it was well out of the bounds of the rules and was a dangerous coward punch.


But no football player would press charges unless it was a ridiculously, ridiculously severe case.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on August 06, 2014, 04:07:48 AM
LOL. Lock any one up that's ever assaulted someone on the footy field and throw away the key  ::)

I know that plenty of people think footy is getting weak.. Footy is only getting weak as a bi product of society getting weak as a whole.

Just this piss weak new age of political correctness. Everyone thinking they are entitled to something. People picking and choosing what they will take offence to. Everything is now "dangerous" or blown out to be looked at as if the worst case scenario COULD have happened when it HASN'T. If you have a beer now you're an alchaloic. If you take drugs you're a drug addict.

Conca forearms a bloke in the back of the head. He's an idiot and he copped a punishment but now people say he should be criminally charged and needs anger management classes. What an absolute joke! And because this was on the back of Vickery doing something stupid last week, now apparently Richmond have "disciplinary issues"... Because 2 guys on a list of 40 do something out of the blue both in retaliation the club has disciplinary problems?

I feel sorry for anyone that grows up in the generation after us. They will be wrapped in bubble wrap to walk down the street. Football will be played only by a minority as parents want their kids to play basketball or soccer now because they are "safer"

I grew up in the wrong generation  ::)

For the record I'm not condoning what Conca did. He's a goose and that was a silly act even in the 60s or 70s and would have got weeks. But why it has to be made out to be this huge ordeal with all of these branching issues is beyond me
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 06, 2014, 08:42:03 AM
Agree with just about everything you said mate. If anything more comes of this it'll be a joke
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on August 06, 2014, 09:53:31 AM
Quote from: Ziplock on August 06, 2014, 12:49:22 AM
A lot of what happens in football would be classified as assault in real life- it's one of the reasons why I feel a little bad for players when they do have off the field incidents- they've basically trained to hurt people on the field, and some of that aggression translates off it.

Honestly, Smith would probably have a legitimate legal case against him- a judge won't really give a flying flower that it was on the football field, it was well out of the bounds of the rules and was a dangerous coward punch.


But no football player would press charges unless it was a ridiculously, ridiculously severe case.

While I admit I have very limited knowledge, there'd be no way you could charge that in a court of law.

You can get charged for tackling someone off-field as assault. If it was actually brought to court it would probably be thrown out immediately given the AFL already punished Conca well under their guidelines.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ziplock on August 06, 2014, 11:43:35 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on August 06, 2014, 04:07:48 AM
LOL. Lock any one up that's ever assaulted someone on the footy field and throw away the key  ::)

I know that plenty of people think footy is getting weak.. Footy is only getting weak as a bi product of society getting weak as a whole.

Just this piss weak new age of political correctness. Everyone thinking they are entitled to something. People picking and choosing what they will take offence to. Everything is now "dangerous" or blown out to be looked at as if the worst case scenario COULD have happened when it HASN'T. If you have a beer now you're an alchaloic. If you take drugs you're a drug addict.

Conca forearms a bloke in the back of the head. He's an idiot and he copped a punishment but now people say he should be criminally charged and needs anger management classes. What an absolute joke! And because this was on the back of Vickery doing something stupid last week, now apparently Richmond have "disciplinary issues"... Because 2 guys on a list of 40 do something out of the blue both in retaliation the club has disciplinary problems?

I feel sorry for anyone that grows up in the generation after us. They will be wrapped in bubble wrap to walk down the street. Football will be played only by a minority as parents want their kids to play basketball or soccer now because they are "safer"

I grew up in the wrong generation  ::)

For the record I'm not condoning what Conca did. He's a goose and that was a silly act even in the 60s or 70s and would have got weeks. But why it has to be made out to be this huge ordeal with all of these branching issues is beyond me

I think the disciplinary problems was because richmond also gave away a lot of off the ball frees. The issue is that a strike to the back of the head has a huge chance of causing serious injury- that's why rabbit punches are banned in nearly every combat sport like boxing/ mma.

It's like saying 'I shot a loaded gun at him, just to scare him, and I missed, so that's ok'

The only people who've really been saying he should be charged are lawyers looking to make a few bucks... although, they'd probably have the best idea whether it'd hold up.  He should be receiving anger management classes though- they're there to teach you to control yourself in situations where you're pissed off... and not to go punching people in the back of the head.

Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on August 06, 2014, 09:53:31 AM
Quote from: Ziplock on August 06, 2014, 12:49:22 AM
A lot of what happens in football would be classified as assault in real life- it's one of the reasons why I feel a little bad for players when they do have off the field incidents- they've basically trained to hurt people on the field, and some of that aggression translates off it.

Honestly, Smith would probably have a legitimate legal case against him- a judge won't really give a flying flower that it was on the football field, it was well out of the bounds of the rules and was a dangerous coward punch.


But no football player would press charges unless it was a ridiculously, ridiculously severe case.

While I admit I have very limited knowledge, there'd be no way you could charge that in a court of law.

You can get charged for tackling someone off-field as assault. If it was actually brought to court it would probably be thrown out immediately given the AFL already punished Conca well under their guidelines.

Tackling is a defined part of the game, striking people in the back of the head isn't. And whether or not the AFL's passed judgement wouldn't affect the outcome of the decision- for instance, if you get into a fight at school, and the school suspends you, you can still be charged regardless.



More analogies than I'd like, but you see my point. I don't think Smith should charge him, that'd be a really, really bad decision on his behalf, would completely alienate him from the rest of the players and be a massive over reaction, but if he did choose to, I honestly think it'd have more than a 50% chance of holding up.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on August 06, 2014, 08:53:15 PM
Zip, please. This is a mans game, contact sport played at high tempo by young men with a lot on the line. It is not anything like the outside world. We've all heard of white line fever. People do and say things in the heat of the battle that they would never do in the outside world.
conca has never hit anyone before, he's never been in trouble with the law or done anything to suggest he needs anger management. He got in a scuffle on a football field and did something stupid. He cops the weeks and we move on.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 07, 2014, 01:04:30 PM
Bomber has said Fletch is sore and might not play tomorrow

Steinberg would be his replacement is my guess he has been playing well in the reserves all year
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 07, 2014, 01:08:17 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 07, 2014, 01:04:30 PM
Bomber has said Fletch is sore and might not play tomorrow

Steinberg would be his replacement is my guess he has been playing well in the reserves all year
Hibberd still out as well?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 07, 2014, 01:16:01 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 07, 2014, 01:08:17 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 07, 2014, 01:04:30 PM
Bomber has said Fletch is sore and might not play tomorrow

Steinberg would be his replacement is my guess he has been playing well in the reserves all year
Hibberd still out as well?

Assume so isn't he meant to be out for a couple?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 07, 2014, 01:26:55 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 07, 2014, 01:16:01 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 07, 2014, 01:08:17 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 07, 2014, 01:04:30 PM
Bomber has said Fletch is sore and might not play tomorrow

Steinberg would be his replacement is my guess he has been playing well in the reserves all year
Hibberd still out as well?

Assume so isn't he meant to be out for a couple?
Yeah, I thought so.

Figured the Bombers fan would know more than I would.  :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 07, 2014, 01:37:53 PM
yeah he found some magical fairy dust and is ok to play now :P

ASADA approved
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on August 07, 2014, 03:19:54 PM
Yeah Hibbo will be out for one more.
Daniher could be back, while it looks likely that Carlisle will play.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 07, 2014, 06:37:07 PM
IN: Grigg, Morris
OUT: Conca, Lloyd
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on August 07, 2014, 09:22:03 PM
Hope Lloyd gets more of a run at it next season as I think he has been solid without being spectacular. Good to see Grigg back in the side (I think anyways.. :P)

I think we can give Essendon a real run for their money tomorrow night
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on August 07, 2014, 10:10:26 PM
Quote from: Toga on August 07, 2014, 09:22:03 PM
Hope Lloyd gets more of a run at it next season as I think he has been solid without being spectacular. Good to see Grigg back in the side (I think anyways.. :P)

I think we can give Essendon a real run for their money tomorrow night
I'm not a massive Grigg fan, but deserves to come back in. Hopefully he does a good job on Hepp.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on August 08, 2014, 03:21:07 PM
This stat shows how good Rance has been this year
(http://i.imgur.com/kEUXLA8.png)

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-08-08/the-inquirer-totally-random-facts
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 08, 2014, 11:02:54 PM
6 on the trot!

Been a good run so far and we're sitting at 9-10, but we've got a huge test next week.

Really happy about the win tonight though.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on August 08, 2014, 11:04:50 PM
Essenwho!?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on August 08, 2014, 11:08:18 PM
Jack needs to grow some hair back. Looking too much like Bootsma for my liking
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 08, 2014, 11:24:39 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on August 08, 2014, 11:08:18 PM
Jack needs to grow some hair back. Looking too much like Bootsma for my liking
The first week I saw him with his haircut, I thought he was Steven Morris.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on August 08, 2014, 11:35:20 PM
:D
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on August 09, 2014, 12:03:33 AM
Rapt with the win.
Even though it's pretty unlikely that we will play finals, it always good to get a win over the Bombers.
Ellis is having some year, continues to rack up the ball.
Maric is super important to us and even though Ryder won the battle today, Ivan battled on hard.
Lids continues his good form, which is promising because he's had a disappointing year.
Miles is recruit of the year.
Petterd has really improved, a big fan of him recently.
Same with Shedwards, one of my favourites to watch, he's brilliant.
Griff was good, happy to see he's coming along nicely.
Matt Thomas has to be dropped, he was awful.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on August 09, 2014, 12:35:43 AM
Good assesment Jroo. Hard to argue with any of that.
Maric was just massive in that last quater ,as was Houli.

Really proud of the boys the last 6 weeks. Forget finals, it would have been easier for us to burry our heads in the sand and give up on the season but we've battled out the year and if nothing else will have gained some confidence and belief to roll into next year.

Plus its always nice to knock off the filthy dons ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on August 09, 2014, 12:40:25 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on August 09, 2014, 12:35:43 AM
Good assesment Jroo. Hard to argue with any of that.
Maric was just massive in that last quater ,as was Houli.

Really proud of the boys the last 6 weeks. Forget finals, it would have been easier for us to burry our heads in the sand and give up on the season but we've battled out the year and if nothing else will have gained some confidence and belief to roll into next year.

Plus its always nice to knock off the filthy dons ;)
Oh yeah forgot about Bachar, I thought he was important tonight.
But yeah, good to get some momentum for next year.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 09, 2014, 10:28:04 AM
We only had a few players last night that didn't do too well.

Grigg and Morris, our two ins didn't have great nights... however I can't see either being dropped.

Tank had a poor night, reflected in his subbing.

I think just about everyone else did something of note or played their role really well.

Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on August 09, 2014, 11:01:23 AM
Yeah agree with pretty much all that you said Jroo.. I thought Nip Gordon was also pretty impressive last night in his first full game in a while - he didn't get a heap of the footy but I thought he used it well and nailed two crucial goals.

Wouldn't mind seeing Matty McDonough get another game next week at the expense of Tank, sounds like he's had some good form in the middle in the VFL recently.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 09, 2014, 11:04:19 AM
Madonna or Bikkies has to come in this week, hell... even Beatle.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on August 09, 2014, 11:22:15 AM
Yeah Nippa done some good things, I like him up forward.
I'd like to see Madonna too, but Dimma loves Morris.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on August 09, 2014, 01:26:28 PM
Yes please
@3AWisfootball: BT: 'Richmond are going hard at Lenny Hayes for a coaching role next year' #AFL
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 09, 2014, 03:06:21 PM
 :o

Yes!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on August 09, 2014, 03:48:10 PM
Nigey and KB on behalf of the forum I ask if one of you can change your DP please :P

maybe a bet on something to see who keeps it :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 09, 2014, 03:49:55 PM
I had mine first weeks ago
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on August 09, 2014, 03:50:57 PM
Quote from: brad on August 09, 2014, 03:48:10 PM
Nigey and KB on behalf of the forum I ask if one of you can change your DP please :P

maybe a bet on something to see who keeps it :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 09, 2014, 04:02:15 PM
Nigey stole mine so your dreaming of you think I'll change it
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on August 09, 2014, 04:05:00 PM
Yeah Miles is KBs man. He earmarked him before he played a game
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on August 09, 2014, 04:22:15 PM
fair point fellas. Nige... :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 09, 2014, 04:37:56 PM
Quote from: brad on August 09, 2014, 04:22:15 PM
fair point fellas. Nige... :P

Still not changing it.  ;)

Quote from: quinny88 on August 09, 2014, 04:05:00 PM
Yeah Miles is KBs man. He earmarked him before he played a game

I thought you'd have the back of your fellow Richmond supporter but apparently not.  :o
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ziplock on August 09, 2014, 06:38:29 PM
No idea what's happening- I'm miles away.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 09, 2014, 06:40:12 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on August 09, 2014, 06:38:29 PM
No idea what's happening- I'm miles away.
:-* ;D
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 09, 2014, 06:44:12 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on August 09, 2014, 06:38:29 PM
No idea what's happening- I'm miles away.

You barely post anyway lol
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ziplock on August 09, 2014, 07:12:16 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 09, 2014, 06:44:12 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on August 09, 2014, 06:38:29 PM
No idea what's happening- I'm miles away.

You barely post anyway lol

wooooah. Might want to be careful about pushing me on that matter- to make coach in under a couple of months, I ended up posting like 175 posts in a day :P

You really don't want old school ziplock to be coming out of the woodwork :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 09, 2014, 10:51:44 PM
VFL result vs Bendigo.

Siren, Tigs win by 98 points.
Goals to McBean 5, Lloyd 4, Edwards 2, Bathie 2, Arnot 2, Hampson 2, Knights 2, Helbig, Conca, McDonough, Lennon.

Should also mention that McBean is leading the goalkicking in the VFL.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on August 10, 2014, 03:46:12 AM
Sorry Nige, I just have a clear recollection of kb claiming him even before he even played a game though.

We get him for keeps though as tiggy supporters :P
Such a gun
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 10, 2014, 06:54:52 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on August 10, 2014, 03:46:12 AM
Sorry Nige, I just have a clear recollection of kb claiming him even before he even played a game though.

We get him for keeps though as tiggy supporters :P
Such a gun

have been following him with keen interest since being drafted to GWS i even head hunted him in the 2012 trade period in BXV
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 10, 2014, 11:18:22 AM
If it means anything, I was a fan when he was running around for Murray Bushrangers in the TAC Cup.  :P

KB can claim him, I'm okay with it.

But:
1. He's still a Tiger.
2. I'm not changing my pic, at least not anytime soon.  :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on August 10, 2014, 11:20:22 AM
You suck lol
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ziplock on August 10, 2014, 11:42:06 AM
I call dibs.


suck it.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on August 10, 2014, 05:28:33 PM
haha half the forum will have him as their dp soon :P

Adelaide belting brissie not great for us. Need West Coast to win today
Just did the ladder predictor and if we win our last 3 we will most likely finish 8th or 9th  :-X
will come down to percentage.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on August 10, 2014, 06:34:08 PM
West Coast look to be helping you guys out
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on August 10, 2014, 06:37:27 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on August 10, 2014, 06:34:08 PM
West Coast look to be helping you guys out
Yep, although it would've been good if the Lions could help us out too.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ziplock on August 10, 2014, 11:15:26 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 10, 2014, 06:37:27 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on August 10, 2014, 06:34:08 PM
West Coast look to be helping you guys out
Yep, although it would've been good if the Lions could help us out too.

If you have to bet on the lions winning, you probably don't deserve to make the 8 :p
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on August 10, 2014, 11:15:59 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on August 10, 2014, 05:28:33 PM
haha half the forum will have him as their dp soon :P

Adelaide belting brissie not great for us. Need West Coast to win today
Just did the ladder predictor and if we win our last 3 we will most likely finish 8th or 9th  :-X
will come down to percentage.

Well we know where your finishing then ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on August 11, 2014, 04:57:24 AM
For Richmond to make the 8 the following has to happen.

Collingwood lose in rd 23 against hawthorn (very likely)
Adelaide to lose to us next week and north the following week down in tassie (50/50)
Westcoast to lose to Essendon next week at etihad (likely)
Goldcoast to lose one of their games (very likely)
Us to win our remaining 3 (unlikely)

Really it's in our hands.. I think all of those scenarios are probably going to happen except us winning all 3
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 11, 2014, 08:24:24 AM
Yep, I agree quinny.

I think we'll win our next two, but the game against Sydney might be too big an ask.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on August 11, 2014, 12:33:02 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on August 11, 2014, 04:57:24 AM
Westcoast to lose to Essendon next week at etihad (likely)

Pfft, no ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Bully on August 11, 2014, 03:21:32 PM
Anyone know if Beanie played in the ruck again? Quietly hoping he gets DPP status next year.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on August 11, 2014, 03:30:29 PM
Quote from: Bully on August 11, 2014, 03:21:32 PM
Anyone know if Beanie played in the ruck again? Quietly hoping he gets DPP status next year.
Not sure, but I doubt he'll get it.
He's had Hampson, Big O, Griffiths and others that he's had to compete with for ruck time, so you wouldn't think he'd get much time there. Weirder things have happened though.
In other news, Knights was BOG in the VFL, so wouldn't mind see him back to replace Thomas.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 11, 2014, 03:31:54 PM
Quote from: Bully on August 11, 2014, 03:21:32 PM
Anyone know if Beanie played in the ruck again? Quietly hoping he gets DPP status next year.
Won't happen, too many others actually rucking in front of him.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Bully on August 11, 2014, 03:41:50 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 11, 2014, 03:30:29 PM
Quote from: Bully on August 11, 2014, 03:21:32 PM
Anyone know if Beanie played in the ruck again? Quietly hoping he gets DPP status next year.
Not sure, but I doubt he'll get it.
He's had Hampson, Big O, Griffiths and others that he's had to compete with for ruck time, so you wouldn't think he'd get much time there. Weirder things have happened though.
In other news, Knights was BOG in the VFL, so wouldn't mind see him back to replace Thomas.

Knights is certainly the forgotten man, I thought Thomas was really poor on the weekend, dropped some absolute sitters. As for the ruck situation, if Beanie doesn't get the DPP maybe Griffiths will, could be an ideal swingman.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on August 11, 2014, 03:43:48 PM
Quote from: Bully on August 11, 2014, 03:41:50 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 11, 2014, 03:30:29 PM
Quote from: Bully on August 11, 2014, 03:21:32 PM
Anyone know if Beanie played in the ruck again? Quietly hoping he gets DPP status next year.
Not sure, but I doubt he'll get it.
He's had Hampson, Big O, Griffiths and others that he's had to compete with for ruck time, so you wouldn't think he'd get much time there. Weirder things have happened though.
In other news, Knights was BOG in the VFL, so wouldn't mind see him back to replace Thomas.

Knights is certainly the forgotten man, I thought Thomas was really poor on the weekend, dropped some absolute sitters. As for the ruck situation, if Beanie doesn't get the DPP maybe Griffiths will, could be an ideal swingman.
I like Knights, think we could do with his class up forward. May be used as the sub though.
Griff should get R/F.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Bully on August 11, 2014, 03:47:00 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 11, 2014, 03:43:48 PM
Quote from: Bully on August 11, 2014, 03:41:50 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 11, 2014, 03:30:29 PM
Quote from: Bully on August 11, 2014, 03:21:32 PM
Anyone know if Beanie played in the ruck again? Quietly hoping he gets DPP status next year.
Not sure, but I doubt he'll get it.
He's had Hampson, Big O, Griffiths and others that he's had to compete with for ruck time, so you wouldn't think he'd get much time there. Weirder things have happened though.
In other news, Knights was BOG in the VFL, so wouldn't mind see him back to replace Thomas.

Knights is certainly the forgotten man, I thought Thomas was really poor on the weekend, dropped some absolute sitters. As for the ruck situation, if Beanie doesn't get the DPP maybe Griffiths will, could be an ideal swingman.
I like Knights, think we could do with his class up forward. May be used as the sub though.
Griff should get R/F.

Reckon he would relish fronting up against the Crows, don't mind him as sub, he needs to be eased into the action.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 11, 2014, 03:55:25 PM
Quote from: Bully on August 11, 2014, 03:47:00 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 11, 2014, 03:43:48 PM
Quote from: Bully on August 11, 2014, 03:41:50 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 11, 2014, 03:30:29 PM
Quote from: Bully on August 11, 2014, 03:21:32 PM
Anyone know if Beanie played in the ruck again? Quietly hoping he gets DPP status next year.
Not sure, but I doubt he'll get it.
He's had Hampson, Big O, Griffiths and others that he's had to compete with for ruck time, so you wouldn't think he'd get much time there. Weirder things have happened though.
In other news, Knights was BOG in the VFL, so wouldn't mind see him back to replace Thomas.

Knights is certainly the forgotten man, I thought Thomas was really poor on the weekend, dropped some absolute sitters. As for the ruck situation, if Beanie doesn't get the DPP maybe Griffiths will, could be an ideal swingman.
I like Knights, think we could do with his class up forward. May be used as the sub though.
Griff should get R/F.

Reckon he would relish fronting up against the Crows, don't mind him as sub, he needs to be eased into the action.
Thought Miles would have been the same against the Giants.  :(
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on August 11, 2014, 07:22:49 PM
Would love to see Knighta back into the side this week!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on August 11, 2014, 11:58:13 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 11, 2014, 12:33:02 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on August 11, 2014, 04:57:24 AM
Westcoast to lose to Essendon next week at etihad (likely)

Pfft, no ;)

Haha well I think it's a hard one to call but think it's 60/40 in Essendons favour being at etihad.
Would say the opposite if it was at subi.
Massive game either way
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on August 12, 2014, 12:06:11 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on August 11, 2014, 11:58:13 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 11, 2014, 12:33:02 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on August 11, 2014, 04:57:24 AM
Westcoast to lose to Essendon next week at etihad (likely)

Pfft, no ;)

Haha well I think it's a hard one to call but think it's 60/40 in Essendons favour being at etihad.
Would say the opposite if it was at subi.
Massive game either way

Haha yeah you're not wrong! Really hope Lecca gets up, I've loved our last 8 quarters!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 12, 2014, 02:11:38 PM
 Clearance differential:

Rounds 1-14: 12th

Rounds 15-20: 1st

Contested possession differential

Rounds 1-14: 11th

Rounds 15-20:1st

Kick forward %

Rounds 1-14: 13th

Rounds 15-20: 4th

Points for

Rounds 1-14: 13th

Rounds 15-20: 3rd

Points from stoppages differential

Rounds 1-14: 11th

Rounds 15-20: 1st

Points from intercepts differential:

Rounds 1-14: 12th

Rounds 15-20: 4th
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on August 12, 2014, 05:39:12 PM
What the flower happened haha?

Drugs? :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on August 12, 2014, 06:05:14 PM
Quote from: Vinny on August 12, 2014, 05:39:12 PM
What the flower happened haha?

Drugs? :P

Steven Dank and the weapon have been seen leaving the club  ;D
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on August 12, 2014, 06:14:45 PM
Word is he is meeting up with the Blues next week. ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 12, 2014, 06:44:52 PM
Quote from: Vinny on August 12, 2014, 06:14:45 PM
Word is he is meeting up with the Blues next week. ;)
That explains why Juddy is hanging around.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on August 12, 2014, 06:52:51 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 12, 2014, 06:44:52 PM
Quote from: Vinny on August 12, 2014, 06:14:45 PM
Word is he is meeting up with the Blues next week. ;)
That explains why Juddy is hanging around.
For sure, Cousins would have given him a taster, it is time for the real deal.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 12, 2014, 07:04:04 PM
Quote from: Vinny on August 12, 2014, 06:52:51 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 12, 2014, 06:44:52 PM
Quote from: Vinny on August 12, 2014, 06:14:45 PM
Word is he is meeting up with the Blues next week. ;)
That explains why Juddy is hanging around.
For sure, Cousins would have given him a taster, it is time for the real deal.
He was a good man was Ben.  8)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on August 12, 2014, 07:06:33 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 12, 2014, 07:04:04 PM
Quote from: Vinny on August 12, 2014, 06:52:51 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 12, 2014, 06:44:52 PM
Quote from: Vinny on August 12, 2014, 06:14:45 PM
Word is he is meeting up with the Blues next week. ;)
That explains why Juddy is hanging around.
For sure, Cousins would have given him a taster, it is time for the real deal.
He was a good man was Ben.  8)
Legend
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: tor01doc on August 12, 2014, 08:32:52 PM
9th
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 14, 2014, 05:36:27 PM
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/ways-you-can-tell-youre-a-oneeyed-tigerland-tragic/story-fnkd6ppg-1227024253665

Was an interesting read.  :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 14, 2014, 06:41:13 PM
BEATLE IN FOR TANK.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on August 14, 2014, 06:43:13 PM
Yeah, happy with that.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 15, 2014, 09:59:57 PM
Stats tell us since start of 2013, the Tigers are 19-11 II (Ivan in), 5-7 IO (Ivan out).
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 15, 2014, 10:04:40 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 15, 2014, 09:59:57 PM
Stats tell us since start of 2013, the Tigers are 19-11 II (Ivan in), 5-7 IO (Ivan out).
Saw that stat today as well. Tbh I think its more the fact that you played much better football last year rather than Maric being the saviour.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 15, 2014, 10:18:41 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 15, 2014, 10:04:40 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 15, 2014, 09:59:57 PM
Stats tell us since start of 2013, the Tigers are 19-11 II (Ivan in), 5-7 IO (Ivan out).
Saw that stat today as well. Tbh I think its more the fact that you played much better football last year rather than Maric being the saviour.
Nah, Ivan makes a huge difference to the team mate.

Although it wasn't just him earlier this year that we missed, it was Tross (Rance) and Lids too. Both invaluable to the team as players and leaders.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 15, 2014, 10:20:32 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 15, 2014, 10:18:41 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 15, 2014, 10:04:40 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 15, 2014, 09:59:57 PM
Stats tell us since start of 2013, the Tigers are 19-11 II (Ivan in), 5-7 IO (Ivan out).
Saw that stat today as well. Tbh I think its more the fact that you played much better football last year rather than Maric being the saviour.
Nah, Ivan makes a huge difference to the team mate.

Although it wasn't just him earlier this year that we missed, it was Tross (Rance) and Lids too. Both invaluable to the team as players and leaders.
Yeh not saying he doesn't but they made it sound like he was the saviour. Would he have won you all those games at the start of the year when the whole team was struggling?

It was just misleading
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 15, 2014, 10:23:31 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 15, 2014, 10:20:32 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 15, 2014, 10:18:41 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 15, 2014, 10:04:40 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 15, 2014, 09:59:57 PM
Stats tell us since start of 2013, the Tigers are 19-11 II (Ivan in), 5-7 IO (Ivan out).
Saw that stat today as well. Tbh I think its more the fact that you played much better football last year rather than Maric being the saviour.
Nah, Ivan makes a huge difference to the team mate.

Although it wasn't just him earlier this year that we missed, it was Tross (Rance) and Lids too. Both invaluable to the team as players and leaders.
Yeh not saying he doesn't but they made it sound like he was the saviour. Would he have won you all those games at the start of the year when the whole team was struggling?

It was just misleading
Oh no, he definitely wouldn't have won us all the games, but he's definitely the most important player at the club.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Kellogscrunchynut on August 15, 2014, 10:52:37 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 14, 2014, 05:36:27 PM
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/ways-you-can-tell-youre-a-oneeyed-tigerland-tragic/story-fnkd6ppg-1227024253665

Was an interesting read.  :P
Very relatable  ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on August 16, 2014, 01:09:42 AM
Maric is hugely important. Not only is he a more imposing figure at the ruck contests than Hampson, he seems to just exert his presence more on the opposition midfielders at ground level which helps our midfielders even more. That bigger body that we need to be throwing his weight around at taggers now that Tucky is gone.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on August 16, 2014, 04:25:13 PM
Apparently Knighta done his hammy in the VFL, looks like seaosn over  :'(
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 16, 2014, 04:28:29 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 16, 2014, 04:25:13 PM
Apparently Knighta done his hammy in the VFL, looks like seaosn over  :'(
:'( :'( :'(

That better not be career over too.  :-\
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 16, 2014, 10:44:52 PM
Last time we won 8 in a row was 1980.

We won a premiership that year.

#ominous  ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on August 16, 2014, 10:49:30 PM
What a flowering win.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on August 16, 2014, 11:32:56 PM
What a great game from start to finish, I love Nath Gordon and he needs to be in our 22 from the get go next year.

Great effort boys! :D
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: LaHug on August 17, 2014, 01:03:45 AM
So... We need North to smash Adelaide and break their percentage and/or we need to beat the Swans. I can't see Adelaide losing to St Kilda...
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on August 17, 2014, 01:17:21 AM
I reckon on your form and depending on how guys like Shaw, Kennedy, Mcglynn, Reid and Bird all pull up from injury you could steal one in Sydney
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on August 17, 2014, 01:29:10 AM
#9th
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 17, 2014, 01:32:12 AM
I'd tip you to beat Sydney
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on August 17, 2014, 01:35:46 AM
I've actually tipped Richmond for all of the last 7, I'll probably tip them vs Sydney too.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: LaHug on August 17, 2014, 01:41:19 AM
Really? I wouldn't unless they rest players.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 17, 2014, 09:45:55 AM
I reckon we're half a chance to beat Sydney.

Probably depends on who plays and who doesn't for them though.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jay on August 17, 2014, 09:57:25 AM
Keep in mind that Sydney will still be in the race for top spot in round 23. Can't see them resting guys for that match.

Doubt you guys can catch us on %, going to need to win both games.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: nickstiges on August 17, 2014, 10:01:35 AM
The difference between 1st and 2nd is negligible since they both get home finals, but I understand your point.
Hopefully the boys don't get ahead of themselves and forget that St Kilda did beat Freo.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 17, 2014, 10:06:39 AM
Quote from: nickstiges on August 17, 2014, 10:01:35 AM
The difference between 1st and 2nd is negligible since they both get home finals, but I understand your point.
Hopefully the boys don't get ahead of themselves and forget that St Kilda did beat Freo.
Dimma mentioned that in the presser after the game, so hopefully he reminds the boys of that all week.

If anyone was to go into a game like next week's with almost too much confidence... it's our boys.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jay on August 17, 2014, 10:09:48 AM
Quote from: nickstiges on August 17, 2014, 10:01:35 AM
The difference between 1st and 2nd is negligible since they both get home finals, but I understand your point.
Hopefully the boys don't get ahead of themselves and forget that St Kilda did beat Freo.
I think there's a huge difference this year in getting to play 4th (Freo or Port), rather than 3rd (Hawks or Cats).
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: LaHug on August 17, 2014, 11:07:22 AM
Quote from: Jayman on August 17, 2014, 10:09:48 AM
Quote from: nickstiges on August 17, 2014, 10:01:35 AM
The difference between 1st and 2nd is negligible since they both get home finals, but I understand your point.
Hopefully the boys don't get ahead of themselves and forget that St Kilda did beat Freo.
I think there's a huge difference this year in getting to play 4th (Freo or Port), rather than 3rd (Hawks or Cats).

Yep. That's the problem. Sydney and Hawthorn don't want to play Geelong so top spot matters.

We technically can catch on percentage with North's ability to win big and St. Kilda's ability to lose big but you guys would have to play sub par two weeks in a row and we'd have to play our best. It really is a matter of winning both or we're out.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 17, 2014, 11:10:40 AM
pretty crazy how hard it will be to predict the top 8 next year
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jay on August 17, 2014, 11:20:49 AM
Quote from: LaHug on August 17, 2014, 11:07:22 AM
Quote from: Jayman on August 17, 2014, 10:09:48 AM
Quote from: nickstiges on August 17, 2014, 10:01:35 AM
The difference between 1st and 2nd is negligible since they both get home finals, but I understand your point.
Hopefully the boys don't get ahead of themselves and forget that St Kilda did beat Freo.
I think there's a huge difference this year in getting to play 4th (Freo or Port), rather than 3rd (Hawks or Cats).

Yep. That's the problem. Sydney and Hawthorn don't want to play Geelong so top spot matters.

We technically can catch on percentage with North's ability to win big and St. Kilda's ability to lose big but you guys would have to play sub par two weeks in a row and we'd have to play our best. It really is a matter of winning both or we're out.
Exactly, they'll have a lot on the line when the play Richmond, which isn't a good thing for the Tiges. I've got us losing to North by a couple of goals next week but St Kilda at home the week after should still boost our percentage well above Richmond's.

West Coast have a healthy percentage and games against the Dees and Suns, albeit they are both away games, you think they should win both comfortably. Crows and Tiges are in the same situation, need to win both to stay a game clear of the Eagles.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on August 17, 2014, 11:21:44 AM
We're fine playing Geelong at home  8)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jay on August 17, 2014, 11:24:27 AM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on August 17, 2014, 11:21:44 AM
We're fine playing Geelong at home  8)
Even after what happened, I'd still rather play Freo...
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 17, 2014, 11:31:42 AM
i give you guys a big chance vs North
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jay on August 17, 2014, 11:38:41 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 17, 2014, 11:31:42 AM
i give you guys a big chance vs North
You just never know with the Crows, we're that flowering unpredictable. Knowing us we'll beat North but then get flogged by the Saints ::)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: LaHug on August 17, 2014, 11:50:04 AM
Quote from: Jayman on August 17, 2014, 11:38:41 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 17, 2014, 11:31:42 AM
i give you guys a big chance vs North
You just never know with the Crows, we're that flowering unpredictable. Knowing us we'll beat North but then get flogged by the Saints ::)

You also never know with the Roos. At their best, they're significantly better than the Crows (and the Tigers, and most teams in the comp) but they are just as likely to play like piss as to play at their best. I'm hoping they play their best for 4 quarters and win by the 8 goals they're capable of but I know it won't happen...
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jay on August 17, 2014, 11:54:25 AM
Quote from: LaHug on August 17, 2014, 11:50:04 AM
Quote from: Jayman on August 17, 2014, 11:38:41 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 17, 2014, 11:31:42 AM
i give you guys a big chance vs North
You just never know with the Crows, we're that flowering unpredictable. Knowing us we'll beat North but then get flogged by the Saints ::)

You also never know with the Roos. At their best, they're significantly better than the Crows (and the Tigers, and most teams in the comp) but they are just as likely to play like piss as to play at their best. I'm hoping they play their best for 4 quarters and win by the 8 goals they're capable of but I know it won't happen...
I don't think we're bad enough to get blown out, it'll be a couple of kicks either way imo.

Can't help but thinking that it would be such a Richmond thing if they lose to the Saints this week :-X
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: LaHug on August 17, 2014, 12:04:07 PM
Quote from: Jayman on August 17, 2014, 11:54:25 AM
Quote from: LaHug on August 17, 2014, 11:50:04 AM
Quote from: Jayman on August 17, 2014, 11:38:41 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 17, 2014, 11:31:42 AM
i give you guys a big chance vs North
You just never know with the Crows, we're that flowering unpredictable. Knowing us we'll beat North but then get flogged by the Saints ::)

You also never know with the Roos. At their best, they're significantly better than the Crows (and the Tigers, and most teams in the comp) but they are just as likely to play like piss as to play at their best. I'm hoping they play their best for 4 quarters and win by the 8 goals they're capable of but I know it won't happen...
I don't think we're bad enough to get blown out, it'll be a couple of kicks either way imo.

Can't help but thinking that it would be such a Richmond thing if they lose to the Saints this week :-X

I don't think it's a matter of you guys being bad. I may be overrating them but I honestly think North is 6-10 goals better than everyone outside the top 4. They're just inconsistent as flower.

And yeah, it would be such a Richmond thing and I'm legitimately scared it'll happen...
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on August 17, 2014, 12:10:20 PM
Think you are overrating them LH. There are many teams at their very best that can match Top 4 sides. North have beaten Top 4 sides but your very best means nothing if you cannot do it consistently.

It is pretty much sums up the year for Richmond, WCE, Carlton, Adelaide and Collingwood.

All these clubs playing at their best have put up great performances, matched top sides and been competitive but if they aren't doing it consistently it means nothing, if that makes sense.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: LaHug on August 17, 2014, 12:12:53 PM
Quote from: Vinny on August 17, 2014, 12:10:20 PM
Think you are overrating them LH. There are many teams at their very best that can match Top 4 sides. North have beaten Top 4 sides but your very best means nothing if you cannot do it consistently.

It is pretty much sums up the year for Richmond, WCE, Carlton, Adelaide and Collingwood.

All these clubs playing at their best have put up great performances, matched top sides and been competitive but if they aren't doing it consistently it means nothing, if that makes sense.

Fair enough. Maybe I've just watched the games North has played well and missed the shower ones because they always look amazing when I see them on the idiot box.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on August 17, 2014, 12:15:18 PM
North are just a super polarized team. Impossible to tell whether they'll show up or not
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on August 17, 2014, 12:16:52 PM
Yeah they have definitely been good and at their very best would probably beat every side outside the 4 but if they  were matched up against any of the 5 teams whilst they too were playing at their best, think it would make a pretty good contest.

All five of WCE, Richmond, Carlton, Adelaide and Collingwood have all played good footy at times, just a matter of not doing it consistently enough. Whether that be across quarters or just weeks.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 17, 2014, 12:19:01 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on August 17, 2014, 12:15:18 PM
North are just a super polarized team. Impossible to tell whether they'll show up or not
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 17, 2014, 01:10:13 PM
Cotch's kid is due grand final week.  :o
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Bully on August 17, 2014, 03:19:10 PM
I wonder if Cotch is a sneaky chance for the Brownlow, reckon he's polled really strongly over the past 2 months.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on August 17, 2014, 03:22:36 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 17, 2014, 01:10:13 PM
Cotch's kid is due grand final week.  :o
good thing he won't be involved in the week :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 17, 2014, 03:27:00 PM
Quote from: Bully on August 17, 2014, 03:19:10 PM
I wonder if Cotch is a sneaky chance for the Brownlow, reckon he's polled really strongly over the past 2 months.
I put money on him before the season started so I hope so haha
its opened up a bit now with Pendles missing and JPK injured
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on August 17, 2014, 03:29:37 PM
Priddis..?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on August 17, 2014, 03:31:54 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 17, 2014, 03:29:37 PM
Priddis..?

He should definitely be in calculations
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Bully on August 17, 2014, 03:32:36 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 17, 2014, 03:27:00 PM
Quote from: Bully on August 17, 2014, 03:19:10 PM
I wonder if Cotch is a sneaky chance for the Brownlow, reckon he's polled really strongly over the past 2 months.
I put money on him before the season started so I hope so haha
its opened up a bit now with Pendles missing and JPK injured

Selwood is probably favourite but I have Cotch on about 20 votes so far, another 2 BOG's and I reckon he's well in contention.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: LaHug on August 17, 2014, 04:30:54 PM
Quote from: Bully on August 17, 2014, 03:32:36 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 17, 2014, 03:27:00 PM
Quote from: Bully on August 17, 2014, 03:19:10 PM
I wonder if Cotch is a sneaky chance for the Brownlow, reckon he's polled really strongly over the past 2 months.
I put money on him before the season started so I hope so haha
its opened up a bit now with Pendles missing and JPK injured

Selwood is probably favourite but I have Cotch on about 20 votes so far, another 2 BOG's and I reckon he's well in contention.

I've got Selwood favourite right now. If Selwood somehow misses the next two weeks, I still have GAJ winning... :o
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on August 17, 2014, 07:55:33 PM
Quote from: Bully on August 17, 2014, 03:19:10 PM
I wonder if Cotch is a sneaky chance for the Brownlow, reckon he's polled really strongly over the past 2 months.
The umps love him, so if he has two more big games, he will be up there.
I thought he was our best last night, he stood up and when we needed him to.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 17, 2014, 08:17:47 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 17, 2014, 07:55:33 PM
Quote from: Bully on August 17, 2014, 03:19:10 PM
I wonder if Cotch is a sneaky chance for the Brownlow, reckon he's polled really strongly over the past 2 months.
The umps love him, so if he has two more big games, he will be up there.
I thought he was our best last night, he stood up and when we needed him to.
Lids was fantastic too... and do we even need to state how bloody good Ivvy is? Such a gun.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on August 17, 2014, 08:19:42 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 17, 2014, 08:17:47 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 17, 2014, 07:55:33 PM
Quote from: Bully on August 17, 2014, 03:19:10 PM
I wonder if Cotch is a sneaky chance for the Brownlow, reckon he's polled really strongly over the past 2 months.
The umps love him, so if he has two more big games, he will be up there.
I thought he was our best last night, he stood up and when we needed him to.
Lids was fantastic too... and do we even need to state how bloody good Ivvy is? Such a gun.
Yep Lids and Cotch were great. Ellis was also good, he keeps delivering.
Jacobs was better than Ivvy in the ruck, but thought he still played a good game. So much better than that hack Hampson  ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: shaker on August 17, 2014, 08:28:20 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 17, 2014, 01:10:13 PM
Cotch's kid is due grand final week.  :o

Alright nigey I have not been to positive about the Tiges getting into the finals or  there future but that has got to be the most optimistic post I have seen  ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 17, 2014, 08:29:06 PM
Quote from: shaker on August 17, 2014, 08:28:20 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 17, 2014, 01:10:13 PM
Cotch's kid is due grand final week.  :o

Alright nigey I have not been to positive about the Tiges getting into the finals or  there future but that has got to be the most optimistic post I have seen  ;)
#daretodream
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: shaker on August 17, 2014, 08:36:40 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 17, 2014, 08:29:06 PM
Quote from: shaker on August 17, 2014, 08:28:20 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 17, 2014, 01:10:13 PM
Cotch's kid is due grand final week.  :o

Alright nigey I have not been to positive about the Tiges getting into the finals or  there future but that has got to be the most optimistic post I have seen  ;)
#daretodream

Beat the saints by 20 goals and I will daretodream go Tiges ha ha  :)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 19, 2014, 01:21:43 AM
(http://i61.tinypic.com/sd08p1.jpg)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on August 19, 2014, 09:07:34 AM
Not bad kb, although the "never bottom" is disputable :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on August 19, 2014, 10:43:00 AM
Haha brilliant.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on August 19, 2014, 12:24:52 PM
Not sure which Dusty GIF is the best here, I'd probably go with the last one  ;D

(http://i.imgur.com/NN9eI1R.gif)

(http://i.imgur.com/2DYfVh1.gif)

(http://i.imgur.com/suVOjSA.gif)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 19, 2014, 01:08:35 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-08-19/hold-that-tiger

Glad this didn't happen.  :o
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on August 19, 2014, 01:11:46 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 19, 2014, 01:08:35 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-08-19/hold-that-tiger

Glad this didn't happen.  :o
Yeah I saw that before.
Imagine where we would be withouth Tross  :o
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 19, 2014, 01:41:26 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 19, 2014, 01:11:46 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 19, 2014, 01:08:35 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-08-19/hold-that-tiger

Glad this didn't happen.  :o
Yeah I saw that before.
Imagine where we would be withouth Tross  :o
Lodging a submission for a priority pick.  :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on August 19, 2014, 05:43:13 PM
Yikes
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on August 19, 2014, 09:06:46 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 19, 2014, 12:24:52 PM
Not sure which Dusty GIF is the best here, I'd probably go with the last one  ;D

(http://i.imgur.com/suVOjSA.gif)

Is that you tbag?  :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on August 19, 2014, 09:18:42 PM
I'm trying to figure out what he's saying...

"you're a person, cow"  ?

obviously not cow though :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on August 19, 2014, 09:23:09 PM
Quote from: brad on August 19, 2014, 09:18:42 PM
I'm trying to figure out what he's saying...

"you're a person, cow"  ?

I think he said "great game man, all the best for the rest of the year"
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on August 19, 2014, 09:26:13 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on August 19, 2014, 09:23:09 PM
Quote from: brad on August 19, 2014, 09:18:42 PM
I'm trying to figure out what he's saying...

"you're a person, cow"  ?

I think he said "great game man, all the best for the rest of the year"

"also I think I've injured my finger, does it look alright?"
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on August 19, 2014, 09:31:08 PM
More like "I just got meself off... Using this!"
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 19, 2014, 09:35:57 PM
Something Radelaidian for sure. Who speaks the local lingo?  :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 20, 2014, 09:53:10 PM
Dave Astbury is making his return in the VFL this weekend.  :o

Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on August 20, 2014, 11:37:35 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 20, 2014, 09:53:10 PM
Dave Astbury is making his return in the VFL this weekend.  :o
Awesome, he will be ready for September :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: SydneyRox on August 21, 2014, 12:40:14 AM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 20, 2014, 11:37:35 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 20, 2014, 09:53:10 PM
Dave Astbury is making his return in the VFL this weekend.  :o
Awesome, he will be ready for September :P

Have the boys booked a holiday together?  :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 21, 2014, 09:59:19 AM
Quote from: SydneyRox on August 21, 2014, 12:40:14 AM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 20, 2014, 11:37:35 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 20, 2014, 09:53:10 PM
Dave Astbury is making his return in the VFL this weekend.  :o
Awesome, he will be ready for September :P

Have the boys booked a holiday together?  :P
How did you know?  :o




In sad news, Chris Knights suffered a season-ending quad injury. :(
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on August 21, 2014, 11:05:14 AM
So to get in, we need to
1. Win our remaining two games
2.  North beat Adelaide or Essendon lose to either Gold Coast or Carlton

I'm not confident North will get up this week.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on August 21, 2014, 11:10:55 AM
I'll be supporting North this weekend (much easier when Harvery isn't playing).

Beating Sydney would be an enormous effort from you boys though.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 21, 2014, 12:18:10 PM
Miles extends for two more years

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-08-21/miles-resigns
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on August 21, 2014, 12:24:28 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 21, 2014, 12:18:10 PM
Miles extends for two more years

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-08-21/miles-resigns
Good news  8)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 21, 2014, 12:54:19 PM
Dunno whether I can cheer for North.  :P

I'd be happy to see Essendon lose as well, but I'm not sure either side they face can win.

Sigh, looks like supporting North it is.  :(

I shall pray for a miracle in the form of a victory against the Swans.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on August 21, 2014, 06:34:49 PM
Looks as though our changes are
In: Conca A.Edwards Dea
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 21, 2014, 06:37:03 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 21, 2014, 06:34:49 PM
Looks as though our changes are
In: Conca A.Edwards Dea
Conca was a no-brainer.

Dea has been in ripping VFL form.

Not sure about Az making the team.

I wonder who gets cut.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: LaHug on August 22, 2014, 12:34:53 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 21, 2014, 06:37:03 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 21, 2014, 06:34:49 PM
Looks as though our changes are
In: Conca A.Edwards Dea
Conca was a no-brainer.

Dea has been in ripping VFL form.

Not sure about Az making the team.

I wonder who gets cut.

Conca in, Lennon out. Lennon wasn't really given a chance but he also stuffed up the moment he came on.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 22, 2014, 12:49:05 AM
Quote from: LaHug on August 22, 2014, 12:34:53 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 21, 2014, 06:37:03 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 21, 2014, 06:34:49 PM
Looks as though our changes are
In: Conca A.Edwards Dea
Conca was a no-brainer.

Dea has been in ripping VFL form.

Not sure about Az making the team.

I wonder who gets cut.

Conca in, Lennon out. Lennon wasn't really given a chance but he also stuffed up the moment he came on.
I thought I saw Beatle named on the field, doesn't mean much I know... but I'm hoping he gets another chance.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on August 22, 2014, 12:57:28 AM
Lennon would be a little stiff but I think it will be him that misses
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on August 22, 2014, 10:20:22 AM
Yeah I think Lennon will get a full game.
Dusty to be rested, Conca in.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 22, 2014, 05:14:26 PM
Surprisingly going in unchanged.

Maybe a late out?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: LaHug on August 22, 2014, 05:30:37 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 22, 2014, 05:14:26 PM
Surprisingly going in unchanged.

Maybe a late out?

Looks like the Dusty rumours are probably true then. I was expecting Lennon out, Conca in and then Lennon back in for Dusty if rumours were true. I can't see Conca missing so Dusty a late out for Conca is very likely.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Big Mac on August 23, 2014, 02:03:39 PM
Who, other then Lennon, is a chance to be sub? Really need Lennon to play now that Dusty is out
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 23, 2014, 02:12:17 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on August 23, 2014, 02:03:39 PM
Who, other then Lennon, is a chance to be sub? Really need Lennon to play now that Dusty is out
Vlastuin, Conca, Foley, Gordon among others.

I'm not sure whether any of them will be though.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 23, 2014, 05:03:16 PM
Well, Crows lose and Essendon win.

It's all up to us now. Gotta win tomorrow and beat Sydney next week for the miraculous finals appearance.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on August 23, 2014, 05:06:24 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 23, 2014, 05:03:16 PM
Well, Crows lose and Essendon win.

It's all up to us now. Gotta win tomorrow and beat lose to Sydney next week for the miraculous finals appearance for the Eagles.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 23, 2014, 05:07:20 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 23, 2014, 05:06:24 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 23, 2014, 05:03:16 PM
Well, Crows lose and Essendon win.

It's all up to us now. Gotta win tomorrow and beat lose to Sydney next week for the miraculous finals appearance for the Eagles.
Oi, we were the ones who were 3-10.  :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on August 24, 2014, 09:38:49 PM
We're back in the eight, where we belong  ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on August 24, 2014, 09:44:41 PM
Either you win 9 in a row or finish 9th ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: LaHug on August 24, 2014, 09:48:10 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on August 24, 2014, 09:44:41 PM
Either you win 9 in a row or finish 9th ;)

Nope. Probably gonna finish 10th.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on August 24, 2014, 09:52:13 PM
Quote from: LaHug on August 24, 2014, 09:48:10 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on August 24, 2014, 09:44:41 PM
Either you win 9 in a row or finish 9th ;)

Nope. Probably gonna finish 10th.

Oh wait yeah I misread the ladder. Damn now I'm disappointed hahaha
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 24, 2014, 10:03:05 PM
Dare to dream? I don't know about anyone else, but I can and I will.  8)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on August 24, 2014, 10:15:13 PM
#9th #DareToDream
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 25, 2014, 10:12:22 AM
Quote from: Vinny on August 24, 2014, 10:15:13 PM
#9th #DareToDream
Richmond lose to Sydney, WCE lose to GC, Richmond finish 9th #DareToDream
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 25, 2014, 10:21:36 AM
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-08-25/martin-expected-to-return

Richmond is expecting star midfielder Dustin Martin to be available for this weekend's clash against Sydney.

Martin missed last Sunday's win against St Kilda with a minor hamstring injury.

"He's had it (hamstring tightness) for the past two weeks, hence why he has been playing forward a little bit more," coach Damien Hardwick said after the win over St Kilda.

"He could have played. we probably thought we were able to win [and] possibly give him a rest.

"He'll come back in next week, which is obviously important to our side.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 25, 2014, 01:19:35 PM
Great to hear from both a supporter and fantasy coach perspective.  8)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 25, 2014, 08:12:37 PM
Dan Jackson got a suspended from the vfl so cant play this week
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 25, 2014, 08:16:46 PM
Lloyd kick three, Az and Beanie kicked two. McBean also finished second in the VFL goalkicking. Madonna continued his form as well.

Most importantly, Dave Astbury made a successful return but had limited game time.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on August 25, 2014, 08:18:49 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 25, 2014, 08:12:37 PM
Dan Jackson got a suspended from the vfl so cant play this week
I doubt they would've brought him in anyway.

Only change atm looks like Dusty for Lennon.
Ty back from suspension could come back too.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: LaHug on August 25, 2014, 08:27:52 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 25, 2014, 08:18:49 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 25, 2014, 08:12:37 PM
Dan Jackson got a suspended from the vfl so cant play this week
I doubt they would've brought him in anyway.

Only change atm looks like Dusty for Lennon.
Ty back from suspension could come back too.

I think Griffiths did enough to keep Ty's spot.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on August 25, 2014, 08:28:28 PM
I'd prefer to see Griffo stay in the side, has been hitting the ball well in the last couple of weeks
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 25, 2014, 08:29:06 PM
Yeah, I think Dusty might come in for Lennon.

I don't think Ty will come back in tbh because Griff has been good but you never know. #dimmacurveball
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on August 25, 2014, 08:42:41 PM
Quote from: LaHug on August 25, 2014, 08:27:52 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 25, 2014, 08:18:49 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 25, 2014, 08:12:37 PM
Dan Jackson got a suspended from the vfl so cant play this week
I doubt they would've brought him in anyway.

Only change atm looks like Dusty for Lennon.
Ty back from suspension could come back too.

I think Griffiths did enough to keep Ty's spot.
Yeah really impressed with Griffiths, no way he'll get dropped.
They may bring in Ty anyway and go with 3 talls.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on August 26, 2014, 01:10:11 AM
Not expecting to beat Sydney but funnier things have happened.
Super proud of the boys regardless. Amazing fight back from 3-10 sitting in the bottom 3 to now being 11-10 in the 8 with 1 game left.
Whatever was going wrong earlier in the year, injuries, game plan, training standards etc have obviously all been addressed and if nothing else we at least have a lot to look forward to next year.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: LaHug on August 26, 2014, 01:25:37 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on August 26, 2014, 01:10:11 AM
Not expecting to beat Sydney but funnier things have happened.
Super proud of the boys regardless. Amazing fight back from 3-10 sitting in the bottom 3 to now being 11-10 in the 8 with 1 game left.
Whatever was going wrong earlier in the year, injuries, game plan, training standards etc have obviously all been addressed and if nothing else we at least have a lot to look forward to next year.

I agree to an extent. I'm definitely proud of the way we turned things around!

However... losing to Melbourne and Bulldogs, and missing the finals because of it, is completely inexcusable. So, because of that, I just can't be happy with this season unless we beat the Swans. There are other games that I'm not happy with but those two were the worst.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on August 26, 2014, 07:06:50 AM
Quote from: LaHug on August 26, 2014, 01:25:37 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on August 26, 2014, 01:10:11 AM
Not expecting to beat Sydney but funnier things have happened.
Super proud of the boys regardless. Amazing fight back from 3-10 sitting in the bottom 3 to now being 11-10 in the 8 with 1 game left.
Whatever was going wrong earlier in the year, injuries, game plan, training standards etc have obviously all been addressed and if nothing else we at least have a lot to look forward to next year.

I agree to an extent. I'm definitely proud of the way we turned things around!

However... losing to Melbourne and Bulldogs, and missing the finals because of it, is completely inexcusable. So, because of that, I just can't be happy with this season unless we beat the Swans. There are other games that I'm not happy with but those two were the worst.

Certainly not excusing those performances but who knows, if we had of scraped over the line in those games it may have just band-aided the issues that were there. Like I said, whatever the issues were, they have now been addressed and corrected and we are playing like a top 4-6 club that most thought we should be this year.
Weather we scrape into the 8 or just miss out is irrelevant really. What will be rememberd is the turning point to what will hopefully be a more consistent successful era.
In saying that I will be over the moon if we can get over Sydney and make it. Will be the greatest run to the finals in the history of the game
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ziplock on August 26, 2014, 11:34:06 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on August 26, 2014, 07:06:50 AM
Quote from: LaHug on August 26, 2014, 01:25:37 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on August 26, 2014, 01:10:11 AM
Not expecting to beat Sydney but funnier things have happened.
Super proud of the boys regardless. Amazing fight back from 3-10 sitting in the bottom 3 to now being 11-10 in the 8 with 1 game left.
Whatever was going wrong earlier in the year, injuries, game plan, training standards etc have obviously all been addressed and if nothing else we at least have a lot to look forward to next year.

I agree to an extent. I'm definitely proud of the way we turned things around!

However... losing to Melbourne and Bulldogs, and missing the finals because of it, is completely inexcusable. So, because of that, I just can't be happy with this season unless we beat the Swans. There are other games that I'm not happy with but those two were the worst.

Certainly not excusing those performances but who knows, if we had of scraped over the line in those games it may have just band-aided the issues that were there. Like I said, whatever the issues were, they have now been addressed and corrected and we are playing like a top 4-6 club that most thought we should be this year.
Weather we scrape into the 8 or just miss out is irrelevant really. What will be rememberd is the turning point to what will hopefully be a more consistent successful era.
In saying that I will be over the moon if we can get over Sydney and make it. Will be the greatest run to the finals in the history of the game

Frankly, of you can't beat Sydney then there would have been no point of making finals anyway.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 26, 2014, 11:41:07 AM
Fantastic news! Newy has signed a one year contract extension.  8)

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-08-26/newman-extends-contract

I daresay it will be his last though.  :(
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on August 26, 2014, 11:43:38 AM
Good news, he tore up on the weekend!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 26, 2014, 11:47:23 AM
Quote from: elephants on August 26, 2014, 11:43:38 AM
Good news, he tore up on the weekend!
He was doing really well, I was actually pretty cut when he got subbed. I guess it was more a management thing.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on August 26, 2014, 12:23:55 PM
Earlier in the year, there were many calling from him to retire, but I think Newy has been good lately. Happy to have him on-board for another year.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 26, 2014, 02:57:01 PM
hope Rance does a number on Buddy this week
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Big Mac on August 26, 2014, 05:29:52 PM
How's the Bean looking? any chance of a regular gig in the seniors next year?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 26, 2014, 05:32:00 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on August 26, 2014, 05:29:52 PM
How's the Bean looking? any chance of a regular gig in the seniors next year?
Another pre-season should do him a world of good. Still fairly skinny, so if he adds to his frame a bit he could potentially be good to go Round 1 imo.

Did finished second in the VFL goalkicking (was equal first going into the last round iirc) so he's been kicking goals which is obviously important.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Sydney_Rox on August 26, 2014, 05:55:38 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 26, 2014, 02:57:01 PM
hope Rance does a number on Buddy this week

Dont see it happening. Buddy kicked 4 last time and the tigers defence didnt have Tippett there to worry about.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 26, 2014, 05:57:41 PM
Dave Astbury may come back.

It's unlikely, but would be very handy.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on August 26, 2014, 06:03:14 PM
Quote from: Sydney_Rox on August 26, 2014, 05:55:38 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 26, 2014, 02:57:01 PM
hope Rance does a number on Buddy this week

Dont see it happening. Buddy kicked 4 last time and the tigers defence didnt have Tippett there to worry about.
I thought Rance played pretty well on Buddy, even though he kicked four.
Looks like Chappy will get Tippett, I'm more worried about that, then Rance on Buddy tbh.
No chance Astbury will come in, he's only played the one game in the VFL and coming back from a serious injury we won't risk him.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 26, 2014, 06:05:37 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 26, 2014, 06:03:14 PM
No chance Astbury will come in, he's only played the one game in the VFL and coming back from a serious injury we won't risk him.
I agree, there's no need to risk him, but I was more or less saying the option is there.

But yeah, it would be silly.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Sydney_Rox on August 26, 2014, 06:08:26 PM
worry about goodes as well......

8)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on August 26, 2014, 06:09:04 PM
We've got Grimey for that 8)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 26, 2014, 06:09:21 PM
Quote from: Sydney_Rox on August 26, 2014, 06:08:26 PM
worry about goodes as well......

8)
Nearly there SR ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Sydney_Rox on August 26, 2014, 06:11:29 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 26, 2014, 06:09:21 PM
Quote from: Sydney_Rox on August 26, 2014, 06:08:26 PM
worry about goodes as well......

8)
Nearly there SR ;)

Yup. thanks this should do it.... can stop spamming every board... been hard work!! DOnt know how KB does it!!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 26, 2014, 06:17:38 PM
Quote from: Sydney_Rox on August 26, 2014, 06:11:29 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 26, 2014, 06:09:21 PM
Quote from: Sydney_Rox on August 26, 2014, 06:08:26 PM
worry about goodes as well......

8)
Nearly there SR ;)

Yup. thanks this should do it.... can stop spamming every board... been hard work!! DOnt know how KB does it!!
If you need help, KB and I will gladly assist.  ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on August 27, 2014, 01:48:24 AM
Quote from: Ziplock on August 26, 2014, 11:34:06 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on August 26, 2014, 07:06:50 AM
Quote from: LaHug on August 26, 2014, 01:25:37 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on August 26, 2014, 01:10:11 AM
Not expecting to beat Sydney but funnier things have happened.
Super proud of the boys regardless. Amazing fight back from 3-10 sitting in the bottom 3 to now being 11-10 in the 8 with 1 game left.
Whatever was going wrong earlier in the year, injuries, game plan, training standards etc have obviously all been addressed and if nothing else we at least have a lot to look forward to next year.

I agree to an extent. I'm definitely proud of the way we turned things around!

However... losing to Melbourne and Bulldogs, and missing the finals because of it, is completely inexcusable. So, because of that, I just can't be happy with this season unless we beat the Swans. There are other games that I'm not happy with but those two were the worst.

Certainly not excusing those performances but who knows, if we had of scraped over the line in those games it may have just band-aided the issues that were there. Like I said, whatever the issues were, they have now been addressed and corrected and we are playing like a top 4-6 club that most thought we should be this year.
Weather we scrape into the 8 or just miss out is irrelevant really. What will be rememberd is the turning point to what will hopefully be a more consistent successful era.
In saying that I will be over the moon if we can get over Sydney and make it. Will be the greatest run to the finals in the history of the game

Frankly, of you can't beat Sydney then there would have been no point of making finals anyway.

Huh?  ??? Not beating the top side in the comp would mean there's no point playing finals?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: LaHug on August 27, 2014, 10:52:11 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on August 27, 2014, 01:48:24 AM
Quote from: Ziplock on August 26, 2014, 11:34:06 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on August 26, 2014, 07:06:50 AM
Quote from: LaHug on August 26, 2014, 01:25:37 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on August 26, 2014, 01:10:11 AM
Not expecting to beat Sydney but funnier things have happened.
Super proud of the boys regardless. Amazing fight back from 3-10 sitting in the bottom 3 to now being 11-10 in the 8 with 1 game left.
Whatever was going wrong earlier in the year, injuries, game plan, training standards etc have obviously all been addressed and if nothing else we at least have a lot to look forward to next year.

I agree to an extent. I'm definitely proud of the way we turned things around!

However... losing to Melbourne and Bulldogs, and missing the finals because of it, is completely inexcusable. So, because of that, I just can't be happy with this season unless we beat the Swans. There are other games that I'm not happy with but those two were the worst.

Certainly not excusing those performances but who knows, if we had of scraped over the line in those games it may have just band-aided the issues that were there. Like I said, whatever the issues were, they have now been addressed and corrected and we are playing like a top 4-6 club that most thought we should be this year.
Weather we scrape into the 8 or just miss out is irrelevant really. What will be rememberd is the turning point to what will hopefully be a more consistent successful era.
In saying that I will be over the moon if we can get over Sydney and make it. Will be the greatest run to the finals in the history of the game

Frankly, of you can't beat Sydney then there would have been no point of making finals anyway.

Huh?  ??? Not beating the top side in the comp would mean there's no point playing finals?

I think he's trying to say that there's no point in making finals if you can't win it all... and you can't win it all if you can't beat the best. Makes sense to an extent but I still think finals experience is invaluable to a young side.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on August 27, 2014, 10:55:07 AM
But only 2 sides in the top 8 have actually beaten Sydney this year, so it's an odd statement to make
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ziplock on August 27, 2014, 11:59:32 AM
Quote from: LaHug on August 27, 2014, 10:52:11 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on August 27, 2014, 01:48:24 AM
Quote from: Ziplock on August 26, 2014, 11:34:06 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on August 26, 2014, 07:06:50 AM
Quote from: LaHug on August 26, 2014, 01:25:37 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on August 26, 2014, 01:10:11 AM
Not expecting to beat Sydney but funnier things have happened.
Super proud of the boys regardless. Amazing fight back from 3-10 sitting in the bottom 3 to now being 11-10 in the 8 with 1 game left.
Whatever was going wrong earlier in the year, injuries, game plan, training standards etc have obviously all been addressed and if nothing else we at least have a lot to look forward to next year.

I agree to an extent. I'm definitely proud of the way we turned things around!

However... losing to Melbourne and Bulldogs, and missing the finals because of it, is completely inexcusable. So, because of that, I just can't be happy with this season unless we beat the Swans. There are other games that I'm not happy with but those two were the worst.

Certainly not excusing those performances but who knows, if we had of scraped over the line in those games it may have just band-aided the issues that were there. Like I said, whatever the issues were, they have now been addressed and corrected and we are playing like a top 4-6 club that most thought we should be this year.
Weather we scrape into the 8 or just miss out is irrelevant really. What will be rememberd is the turning point to what will hopefully be a more consistent successful era.
In saying that I will be over the moon if we can get over Sydney and make it. Will be the greatest run to the finals in the history of the game

Frankly, of you can't beat Sydney then there would have been no point of making finals anyway.

Huh?  ??? Not beating the top side in the comp would mean there's no point playing finals?

I think he's trying to say that there's no point in making finals if you can't win it all... and you can't win it all if you can't beat the best. Makes sense to an extent but I still think finals experience is invaluable to a young side.

Yeah, basically.

Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on August 27, 2014, 10:55:07 AM
But only 2 sides in the top 8 have actually beaten Sydney this year, so it's an odd statement to make

Meh, not really. Kind of pointless for any team to go into finals with sydney there ;)

But seriously, the rest of those top 8 teams aren't playing sydney the week before finals, which would logically give the best indication of where the teams are at coming into finals.

Although, yeah, my statement wasn't really correct. If Richmond lose by like a goal or something, then I'd say it'd be devastating they didn't make finals.

If it's like 6 goals though, smeh- no big deal for this season (except for finals experience, which I didn't even consider unfortunately)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 27, 2014, 12:05:36 PM
Anything can happen in finals. A week is a long time in footy, let alone another month before the GF
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on August 28, 2014, 01:49:16 PM
Yeah I just think making the finals is a great thing regardless, especially for a team like Richmond.
Really the only teams I can see winning the flag are Hawthorn or Sydney but that doesn't mean there's no point in anyone else being there lol. You play footy for finals. Winning the flag is the ultimate goal and something most players never experience.

I have no hope of Richmond winning the flag at all this year but still want us to make the finals
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on August 28, 2014, 08:17:46 PM
No favours from Sydney, naming an almost full strength side  :'(
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on August 28, 2014, 08:23:30 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on August 28, 2014, 08:17:46 PM
No favours from Sydney, naming an almost full strength side  :'(
No JPK, McGlyn, Bird, Pyke, so yeah almost full strength.
Could be a late changes though.

Well we're going in with out strongest team of the year, only Jacko and Astbury are missing.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on August 28, 2014, 08:57:07 PM
What do you mean? I wouldn't say they are almost full strength at all missing JPK, McGlynn, Bird and Pyke ???

Ivvy against Naismith could be a defining matchup for us if Iv can really assert himself, but I must say I am a bit worried about a Chaplin vs Tippett situation.. Not sure whether Sydney will be able to exploit Tippett's size advantage, and means Chaplin has to be a lot more accountable than he has been in the last few games.

Also gotta say I am happy that Griffiths has held his spot over Vickery this week 8)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on August 28, 2014, 08:58:13 PM
Yeah still a few guns out but I mean they havent rested any. Only one unforced change which is just Laidler  ::)

Yeah looking forward to the game I reckon we will give it a real shake
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 28, 2014, 09:05:35 PM
Chappy was allowed to do as he pleased last week, now he's gotta shut down Tippett... really hoping he can.

If Tross can cull Buddy's influence (don't think he'll keep him goalless, but one or two goals is a win for us imo).

Grigg may get a tagging/run with role, if he does... I'm hoping he can do a good job - hasn't been too bad in that role at times this year.

I think Jack and Ivan will be the key to us winning. Ivan should beat Naismith and if Jack can get a goal or two early, his confidence should be up and hopefully can kick a bag.

Expecting Cotch and Lids to get shut down pretty easy though, which may pose a problem if guys like Ellis and Miles don't stand up.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on August 28, 2014, 09:19:24 PM
Im just glad its at ANZ and not that under 12's size ground, the SCG
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Sydney_Rox on August 29, 2014, 01:08:15 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on August 28, 2014, 09:19:24 PM
Im just glad its at ANZ and not that under 12's size ground, the SCG

Thats a myth, from 2years ago. Swans pretty happy with ANZ now. So much more run and carry than we have ever had.

Not nearly as confident as I was on Monday. Thought JPK was going to come in and Pyke rested might be a good idea but hope it doesnt create a negative mindset.

Still think we win by 20 odd points. You wont be able to hold Buddy and Tippett, one will kick 5 (Goodes 3) our fwd line will be the factor.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: LaHug on August 29, 2014, 01:28:06 AM
Quote from: Sydney_Rox on August 29, 2014, 01:08:15 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on August 28, 2014, 09:19:24 PM
Im just glad its at ANZ and not that under 12's size ground, the SCG

Thats a myth, from 2years ago. Swans pretty happy with ANZ now. So much more run and carry than we have ever had.

Not nearly as confident as I was on Monday. Thought JPK was going to come in and Pyke rested might be a good idea but hope it doesnt create a negative mindset.

Still think we win by 20 odd points. You wont be able to hold Buddy and Tippett, one will kick 5 (Goodes 3) our fwd line will be the factor.

I have you guys winning by about 30. Tigers up by 10 points at quarter time, down by 20 at half time. Never come back from there.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on August 30, 2014, 03:39:52 PM
Franklin out...
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 30, 2014, 04:39:08 PM
 :o ;D :o 8) :o
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on August 30, 2014, 04:46:42 PM
flower off Sydney
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 30, 2014, 06:48:00 PM
Do you guys think Miles needs a big pre season on the track? He seems to start well and drop off after half time not a major issue but just something I noticed
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 30, 2014, 06:54:55 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 30, 2014, 06:48:00 PM
Do you guys think Miles needs a big pre season on the track? He seems to start well and drop off after half time not a major issue but just something I noticed
No, that's just a team thing.  :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 30, 2014, 07:37:22 PM
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Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ziplock on August 30, 2014, 07:42:06 PM
When I heard buddy was out I was like- omfg, richmond can make the 8...

and congrats- you clearly deserve to be there.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on August 30, 2014, 07:43:47 PM
showers flowered.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on August 30, 2014, 07:44:09 PM
flower YESSSSSSS, flower THE HATERS  :P

ALEX RANCE IS flowerING INCREDIBLE
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 30, 2014, 07:47:42 PM
If there was any doubt about how important Ivan Maric and Alex Rance are to the Richmond Football Club, that has to be dead and buried.

Absolutely ridiculous.

I honestly don't even care if we lost next week now. This was insane.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jay on August 30, 2014, 07:49:09 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 30, 2014, 07:43:47 PM
showers flowered.
At least we get better draft picks, ele :P #PositiveThinking

Power gonna by very hard to beat at the Portress.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: elephants on August 30, 2014, 07:50:32 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 30, 2014, 07:47:42 PM
If there was any doubt about how important Ivan Maric and Lord Alex Rance are to the Richmond Football Club, that has to be dead and buried.

Absolutely ridiculous.

I honestly don't even care if we lost next week now. This was insane.

Just fixed the little typo you made there mate ;)

Quote from: Jayman on August 30, 2014, 07:49:09 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 30, 2014, 07:43:47 PM
showers flowered.
At least we get better draft picks, ele :P #PositiveThinking

Power gonna by very hard to beat at the Portress.

Haha yep, draft picks man. Hopefully we rest Scooter/Pridda/NicNat tomorrow and fly over the kids tonight :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 30, 2014, 07:51:27 PM
Quote from: Jayman on August 30, 2014, 07:49:09 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 30, 2014, 07:43:47 PM
showers flowered.
At least we get better draft picks, ele :P #PositiveThinking

Power gonna by very hard to beat at the Portress.
That's what they said about your mob when we played them a couple of weeks ago at the ('Crowval'?).  ;)

And we beat Port too in the miraculous streak.  8)

Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jay on August 30, 2014, 07:53:33 PM
Unfortunately for you lot, Port are much better than the Crows :( you beat them in Melbourne, thats a lot different to the Portress ;)

Quote from: elephants on August 30, 2014, 07:50:32 PM
Quote from: Jayman on August 30, 2014, 07:49:09 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 30, 2014, 07:43:47 PM
showers flowered.
At least we get better draft picks, ele :P #PositiveThinking

Power gonna by very hard to beat at the Portress.

Haha yep, draft picks man. Hopefully we rest Scooter/Pridda/NicNat tomorrow and fly over the kids tonight :P
Hope the Saints tear us a new one tomorrow :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on August 30, 2014, 07:58:49 PM
I recommend looking at this thread, crazy
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/dont-laugh-were-still-in-it-come-rnd-23-toty.1071056/
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 30, 2014, 08:02:22 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 30, 2014, 07:58:49 PM
I recommend looking at this thread, crazy
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/dont-laugh-were-still-in-it-come-rnd-23-toty.1071056/
Wow.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Master Q on August 30, 2014, 08:22:39 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10616374_649645171798561_2573195014693398155_n.jpg?oh=7e311607ff43b5c0e084115fa537ef3a&oe=5467998D&__gda__=1417650485_7a14db3fd906972d403976b52fc744cb)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 30, 2014, 08:33:21 PM
That's gold Q
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 30, 2014, 08:48:59 PM
Definitely one of the better photoshops I've seen in a while.

Probably should have the Crows in there over the Suns.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on August 30, 2014, 08:50:54 PM
I'll be honest and say I won't be suprised if Richmond get knocked out next week fairly easily.

Certainly did well to turn their mediocre season around into finals though
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 30, 2014, 08:53:19 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on August 30, 2014, 08:50:54 PM
I'll be honest and say I won't be suprised if Richmond get knocked out next week fairly easily.
I am 200% with you on that.  :P

I'm just over the moon that we made it.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Bully on August 30, 2014, 08:56:53 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 30, 2014, 08:53:19 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on August 30, 2014, 08:50:54 PM
I'll be honest and say I won't be suprised if Richmond get knocked out next week fairly easily.
I am 200% with you on that.  :P

I'm just over the moon that we made it.

Whatever happens next week won't overly concern me, to make it after 9 straight wins is a phenomenal performance. I also think some are underestimating our momentum. Playing port away isn't as insurmountable as some are suggesting.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 30, 2014, 09:07:01 PM
Quote from: Bully on August 30, 2014, 08:56:53 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 30, 2014, 08:53:19 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on August 30, 2014, 08:50:54 PM
I'll be honest and say I won't be suprised if Richmond get knocked out next week fairly easily.
I am 200% with you on that.  :P

I'm just over the moon that we made it.

Whatever happens next week won't overly concern me, to make it after 9 straight wins is a phenomenal performance. I also think some are underestimating our momentum. Playing port away isn't as insurmountable as some are suggesting.
Port just haven't looked like the side they were to start the year.

I reckon it's because they dropped Jarman Impey.  :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Big Mac on August 30, 2014, 09:19:31 PM
Congrats to all Richmond supporters on here - You deserve it, good luck next week I reckon you have a good chance with the form you're in
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ziplock on August 31, 2014, 01:29:57 AM
I rate Richmond to take port.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 31, 2014, 01:36:00 AM
Well done lads, thoroughly deserve it. Rance was on another level today

You'll win next week too
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 31, 2014, 01:37:16 AM
i give Tigers more of a chance vs Port then i did vs Swans but

they had to travel to Sydney this week and fight for there lives and now they have to travel to Portress and do it again

in saying that they have been fighting for there lives for 9 weeks now and still in it so who knows
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 31, 2014, 01:42:57 AM
Port travelled to WA and fought for their lives too and now have to travel all the way home
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on August 31, 2014, 01:46:15 AM
:D
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 31, 2014, 01:51:48 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 31, 2014, 01:42:57 AM
Port travelled to WA and fought for their lives too and now have to travel all the way home

but Port get to play at Portress and not travel anywhere

SA to WA no further then Melb to Sydney

just think Port will be more refreshed but still maybe only 60%/40% game in Port's favor
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 31, 2014, 01:57:55 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 31, 2014, 01:51:48 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 31, 2014, 01:42:57 AM
Port travelled to WA and fought for their lives too and now have to travel all the way home

but Port get to play at Portress and not travel anywhere

SA to WA no further then Melb to Sydney

just think Port will be more refreshed but still maybe only 60%/40% game in Port's favor
Not that it matters too much but its twice as long.

Both teams have travelled so it'll be pretty even imo. Only the Portress will play a factor
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: GoLions on August 31, 2014, 02:14:04 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 30, 2014, 08:48:59 PM
Definitely one of the better photoshops I've seen in a while.

Probably should have the Crows in there over the Suns.
That's what I was thinking. Still flowering hilarious nonetheless ;D
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ziplock on August 31, 2014, 03:15:53 AM
Quote from: Master Q on August 30, 2014, 08:22:39 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10616374_649645171798561_2573195014693398155_n.jpg?oh=7e311607ff43b5c0e084115fa537ef3a&oe=5467998D&__gda__=1417650485_7a14db3fd906972d403976b52fc744cb)

hahahahahahhahaha
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jay on August 31, 2014, 08:11:27 AM
Just out interest, at the start of the season would Richmond fans have been happy finishing 8th?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on August 31, 2014, 08:25:27 AM
I stand by what I said at the start of the season that I would be happy just making finals, I wasn't buying into the hype of a top 4 finish so yes, I think I would have been happy finishing 8th!

Stoked 8)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on August 31, 2014, 09:46:30 AM
Quote from: Toga on August 31, 2014, 08:25:27 AM
I stand by what I said at the start of the season that I would be happy just making finals, I wasn't buying into the hype of a top 4 finish so yes, I think I would have been happy finishing 8th!

Stoked 8)
Well said.  :)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on August 31, 2014, 12:15:13 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 31, 2014, 09:46:30 AM
Quote from: Toga on August 31, 2014, 08:25:27 AM
I stand by what I said at the start of the season that I would be happy just making finals, I wasn't buying into the hype of a top 4 finish so yes, I think I would have been happy finishing 8th!

Stoked 8)
Well said.  :)
Yep, would've taken a top eight finish, too  :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: LaHug on August 31, 2014, 12:53:16 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 31, 2014, 12:15:13 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 31, 2014, 09:46:30 AM
Quote from: Toga on August 31, 2014, 08:25:27 AM
I stand by what I said at the start of the season that I would be happy just making finals, I wasn't buying into the hype of a top 4 finish so yes, I think I would have been happy finishing 8th!

Stoked 8)
Well said.  :)
Yep, would've taken a top eight finish, too  :P

Honestly, at the start of the season, it was top 6 finish or I would be disappointed. Not saying I wouldn't have been happy just making the 8 but we were definitely good enough (on paper, at least) to get a home final so it's sucky that we didn't. That said, from 3-10, I never even dreamt of making the 8!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Bully on August 31, 2014, 05:44:11 PM
Quote from: Jayman on August 31, 2014, 08:11:27 AM
Just out interest, at the start of the season would Richmond fans have been happy finishing 8th?

I had us penciled in for top 6 but being 8th is fine, particularly given we haven't lost a game of footy for 2 months. A win against Port and we would have met all expectations.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on September 01, 2014, 10:34:31 AM
If you were being honest, or if you looked at it from the board pov, it would be considered a failed home and away season. They would have had goals to finished top 4-6 and had everything there to do so with the fixture. But everything changes if you win a final or two ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 01, 2014, 10:43:53 AM
i would say top 4-6 was a success, top 8 a pass and no top 8 a fail

i don't think they would call it a fail
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on September 01, 2014, 10:47:26 AM
At the start of the year, I probably would've wanted us to win one final.
If we beat Port, it would be massive for us.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on September 01, 2014, 10:48:59 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 01, 2014, 10:43:53 AM
i would say top 4-6 was a success, top 8 a pass and no top 8 a fail

i don't think they would call it a fail
A pass would have been the same as last year. A success anything above, a fail anything below. Boards are flowering ruthless lol
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ziplock on September 01, 2014, 11:34:33 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 01, 2014, 10:48:59 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 01, 2014, 10:43:53 AM
i would say top 4-6 was a success, top 8 a pass and no top 8 a fail

i don't think they would call it a fail
A pass would have been the same as last year. A success anything above, a fail anything below. Boards are flowering ruthless lol


Let's see how finals go before we judge success/ failure :p
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on September 01, 2014, 11:44:57 AM
Yeh thats what I said above too, will be a whole new ballgame if Rich win a finals game or two
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on September 01, 2014, 01:11:50 PM
Just got home.. Been out partying since Saturday night  :P

I think Sundays game is probably 60/40 in Ports favour but I've been saying that against a lot of our opponents so what do I know!

Go you tigers!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on September 01, 2014, 01:54:41 PM
Oi quinny give my DP back :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on September 01, 2014, 01:58:31 PM
Sorry toges I didn't realise.
I'll change it in a month to one of the boys holding up the premiership cup :P
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Ricochet on September 01, 2014, 02:01:47 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on September 01, 2014, 01:58:31 PM
Sorry toges I didn't realise.
I'll change it in a month to one of the boys holding up the premiership cup :P
So something like this then?

(http://i60.tinypic.com/iwpv1i.jpg)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on September 01, 2014, 02:09:59 PM
Haha you're right mate, quality pic ;)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on September 04, 2014, 06:05:59 PM
@paigecardona: Looks to be a two horse race for Dylan Shiel. Richmond and Melbourne. #AFLTrade

If we somehow manage to get Shiel, I'd go crazy.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on September 04, 2014, 06:10:36 PM
Wow, flower yes. I'd love that.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on September 04, 2014, 06:12:13 PM
Wow that would be some pick up :o
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: LaHug on September 04, 2014, 06:13:57 PM
Didn't even know Shiel was moving. What would we have to give up though?
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on September 04, 2014, 06:17:15 PM
Quote from: LaHug on September 04, 2014, 06:13:57 PM
Didn't even know Shiel was moving. What would we have to give up though?
Nothing official of course, but has been rumoured for some time that he wants to come home to Melbourne.
We'd have to give up a bit, unless he walks out (I can't remember if he's contracted beyond this year).
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 04, 2014, 06:18:47 PM
Would have to give up an arm
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on September 04, 2014, 06:19:50 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on September 04, 2014, 06:17:15 PM
Quote from: LaHug on September 04, 2014, 06:13:57 PM
Didn't even know Shiel was moving. What would we have to give up though?
Nothing official of course, but has been rumoured for some time that he wants to come home to Melbourne.
We'd have to give up a bit, unless he walks out (I can't remember if he's contracted beyond this year).
Quick Google search says he's contracted until the end of next year.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on September 04, 2014, 07:51:37 PM
Griffiths re-signs, which is great news as clubs were after him.
Ellis, McBean and McIntosh also sign!
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Toga on September 04, 2014, 08:08:49 PM
Fantastic news to have Griffiths re-sign, and Ellis to extend his contract early 8)
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Jroo on September 09, 2014, 06:38:59 PM
@Stevo7AFL: Port Adelaide investigating claims from a fan that Bachar Houli was racially abused on Sunday .. Fan says he was dubbed a terrorist ..
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on September 09, 2014, 07:13:55 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on September 09, 2014, 06:38:59 PM
@Stevo7AFL: Port Adelaide investigating claims from a fan that Bachar Houli was racially abused on Sunday .. Fan says he was dubbed a terrorist ..
Yep, have heard this.

Bloody poor that this is still going on after the Goodes and Buddy sagas already this year.  :-\
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: quinny88 on September 09, 2014, 07:41:02 PM
Exactly what I was talking about! Glad someone reported them.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Vinny on September 13, 2014, 12:15:50 PM
Hey Nigey, Togs, Quinny, JRoo, LH, Bully. :P

Was wondering if you think Matt Thomas is best 22 at the Tiges?

Just a yes or no is enough.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: Nige on September 13, 2014, 12:36:12 PM
Quote from: Vinny on September 13, 2014, 12:15:50 PM
Hey Nigey, Togs, Quinny, JRoo, LH, Bully. :P

Was wondering if you think Matt Thomas is best 22 at the Tiges?

Just a yes or no is enough.
In 2015, nope.
Title: Re: Richmond 2014 H&A discussion
Post by: LaHug on September 13, 2014, 03:00:36 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 13, 2014, 12:36:12 PM
Quote from: Vinny on September 13, 2014, 12:15:50 PM
Hey Nigey, Togs, Quinny, JRoo, LH, Bully. :P

Was wondering if you think Matt Thomas is best 22 at the Tiges?

Just a yes or no is enough.
In 2015, nope.

Fringe player I reckon. Not best 22 but can still fill a role if someone's missing.