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« on: December 22, 2020, 11:24:18 pm »

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« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2020, 01:19:05 pm »

What's Buddy going to be priced at heading into next season. He was about 350k heading into 2020 and didn't play a game so you would expect a discount.

Looking at some of the prices Ziebell has to be a lock
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« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2020, 01:52:08 pm »

Danger has a great draw to start the year and will in all likelihood be the #1 fwd in SC again. Must have.
Marshall will definitely be in my team as a fwd/ will have a DPP ruck so I can swing him for cover if need be. If Ryder misses the start of the year that only helps his scoring but it doesnít really matter too much as Marshall should be one of the best scoring forwards regardless.
Heeney is amazing value. Have to pick him.
JZís price makes him a starting lock in my eyes given he is that price based off a 48 season average in a year where 3 of his 8 games were injury affected (two first quarter ones) and his previous nine seasons had him averaging 80/90s. All we need from him is about 5 games and heís 100kplus profit and gone.
JoDaniher is a similar proposition. Wait for a couple of back to back big games and heís traded out for a healthy profit.
Unsure of Buddy.
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« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2020, 04:51:32 pm »

What's Buddy going to be priced at heading into next season. He was about 350k heading into 2020 and didn't play a game so you would expect a discount.

Looking at some of the prices Ziebell has to be a lock

Buddy is 312k
Hogan 310k
JZ and BB are 260k
Daniher 233k

I suspect most sides will be starting at least 1 from that lot
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« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2020, 04:58:58 pm »

Agree with Enzedder - Geelongs juicy initial draw makes Danger a must. Can see if you do not start him may be behind the eight ball to try and bring him in.
At the moment have Daniher but want to see how he goes with preseason games. If fit he starts and has the ability to make 100k quickly. As you say JZ and BB at $260 will be the other options if he does not start,
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« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2020, 09:38:12 pm »

 :)

Liking Dangerfield,  Dunkley,  Marshall,  Martin,  Daniher as starters but this is forcing me very thin in the mids.

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« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2020, 05:32:04 am »

:)

Liking Dangerfield,  Dunkley,  Marshall,  Martin,  Daniher as starters but this is forcing me very thin in the mids.

 :-\
Dunkley should be a great forward pick. Think we are spoiled to have the likes of him and Sidebottom, alongside Danger and Martin as premo forwards in 2021. Yet with the Bulldogs having so many genuine mids (Bont, Macrae, Libba, Treloar) as well as fantastic support that can rotate through (B Smith and Hunter) I'd be wary about starting Dunkley for fear of Bevo keeping him forward. The Treloar factor squeezes him out of mids for mine or certainly impacts on his number of centre bounce attendances and with Stef Martin recruited to support English I think Dunkley's days of rucking are done as well. He starts the year as a watch and see for me.
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« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2021, 06:40:36 pm »

I know itís early stages but Dunkley at 41% surprises me.

As Enzedder said, surely he is going to be pushed out of the midfield rotation and his point scoring will drop because of that?

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« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2021, 05:34:29 am »

Well, if they want to keep him, they better have him in the middle - surely Bont will spend time forward (sans Fyfe) and Macrae on the wing, leaving Dunkley to get a fair chunk of mid time - great value at his price
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« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2021, 06:44:21 am »

Well, if they want to keep him, they better have him in the middle - surely Bont will spend time forward (sans Fyfe) and Macrae on the wing, leaving Dunkley to get a fair chunk of mid time - great value at his price
Rotating with Bailey Smith, Treloar, Hunter and Libba.
Add Bont and Macrae who are too good not to get some mid time and Dunkley is just too risky for mine. Has to be on the watch list.
I initially had Macrae in my plans but Iíve even taken him out.
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« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2021, 11:52:27 am »

Well, if they want to keep him, they better have him in the middle - surely Bont will spend time forward (sans Fyfe) and Macrae on the wing, leaving Dunkley to get a fair chunk of mid time - great value at his price
Rotating with Bailey Smith, Treloar, Hunter and Libba.
Add Bont and Macrae who are too good not to get some mid time and Dunkley is just too risky for mine. Has to be on the watch list.
I initially had Macrae in my plans but Iíve even taken him out.
Can see the concerns about Dogs midfielders.   Though I feel Macrea is the one you can bank on.  Unless he is stuck as a high forward it is hard to not see him benefitting from Treleor, Libba et al getting the ball out to him.    I am sticking with Macrea and leaving the rest of the dogs alone.   
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« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2021, 12:10:20 pm »

Well, if they want to keep him, they better have him in the middle - surely Bont will spend time forward (sans Fyfe) and Macrae on the wing, leaving Dunkley to get a fair chunk of mid time - great value at his price
Rotating with Bailey Smith, Treloar, Hunter and Libba.
Add Bont and Macrae who are too good not to get some mid time and Dunkley is just too risky for mine. Has to be on the watch list.
I initially had Macrae in my plans but Iíve even taken him out.
Can see the concerns about Dogs midfielders.   Though I feel Macrea is the one you can bank on.  Unless he is stuck as a high forward it is hard to not see him benefitting from Treleor, Libba et al getting the ball out to him.    I am sticking with Macrea and leaving the rest of the dogs alone.
Yeah, probably an over reaction on my part and reckon that youíre right about Macrae being the safest of the WB mids. On the balance of byes he works better for me too.
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« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2021, 06:38:01 pm »

What are peoples thoughts on S.Bolton?

Averaged 86 last year, 462k. 22 years old, 40 career games. He came on a lot last year, could he breakout further this year? Can any Richmond fans talk to if they think he will continue to grow his midfield minutes if Prestia stays fit?

Currently my F3
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« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2021, 10:24:47 pm »

What are peoples thoughts on S.Bolton?

Averaged 86 last year, 462k. 22 years old, 40 career games. He came on a lot last year, could he breakout further this year? Can any Richmond fans talk to if they think he will continue to grow his midfield minutes if Prestia stays fit?

Currently my F3

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Not a Tigers fan, but I reckon he could easily avg 100. Currently my F2 (gone light-ish up forward.
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« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2021, 02:02:15 pm »

My thoughts on the main forwards, and how options seem bleak this year

Danger - injury pre season and forward time looming large
 
Sidebottom - super expensive for an aging player who will likely play forward for extended periods

Hawkins - Cameron in, no

Dunkley - treloar added and he could easily get squeezed as we see all the time

Marshall - seems safe and a good ruck cover but not a high ceiling

Dusty - how much will he play forward, do Richmond slow down and younger mids  coming through (Graham Ross Bolton)

Walters - plays forward a lot and can be up and down. Freos young mids also ready to take over

Zorko - similar to Walters

Heeney - eh will he ever be what we think he can be? No doubts he will be largely a forward still as heís too important there, ceiling not great

Butters/Bolton- breakout potential by not worth the risk of starting them

Degoey - see above


Daniher - sure heís cheap and can score, but His best year their forward line was Stanton, booker, francis, fantasia, colyer. Not exactly the same quality as Brisbaneís

Zieball - sure heís at halfback and cheap but heís one of the worst kicks in the AFL and the role may not last. Heís also getting older and is a huge bust candidate

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