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Title: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on July 13, 2016, 09:21:14 PM
I made the 2015 version one year ago to the day. Let's see if we can get more than 2497 replies this time around.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: JBs-Hawks on July 13, 2016, 09:24:43 PM
Patrick Dangerfield is not available.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on July 13, 2016, 09:43:47 PM
I'm going to enjoy reading "Confabulation" for over 2000+ replies  :P
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Hellopplz on July 13, 2016, 09:49:35 PM
PNL needs mids or draft picks, or both. We offer candies and somebody you can talk to about Pokemon go.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on July 13, 2016, 10:12:27 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on July 13, 2016, 09:49:35 PM
PNL needs mids or draft picks, or both. We offer candies and somebody you can talk to about Pokemon go.

Hp is a pokemon go noob, come to dublin.

We also need mids and maybe picks
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Hellopplz on July 13, 2016, 10:34:47 PM
Here at PNL we offer somebody to talk to rather than tell you we're better than you.

PNL is for the regular coaches of Worlds. At Dublin, they're better than you and they know it.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Nige on July 13, 2016, 10:39:34 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 13, 2016, 09:43:47 PM
I'm going to enjoy reading "Confabulation" for over 2000+ replies  :P
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on July 13, 2016, 11:18:42 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on July 13, 2016, 10:34:47 PM
Here at PNL we offer somebody to talk to rather than tell you we're better than you.

PNL is for the regular coaches of Worlds. At Dublin, they're better than you and they know it.

Right so talk to the team that just beat the team that is better then you :P

Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Hellopplz on July 13, 2016, 11:37:01 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 13, 2016, 11:18:42 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on July 13, 2016, 10:34:47 PM
Here at PNL we offer somebody to talk to rather than tell you we're better than you.

PNL is for the regular coaches of Worlds. At Dublin, they're better than you and they know it.
Right so talk to the team that just beat the team that is better then you :P
Yep, cause we give people something to believe in!

We're having a fairy tale run. From 2-5 to 9-5, from the bottom to the top, from injuries to inspirations.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2016, 08:55:24 AM
Always good to see a word like confabulation get a run!

I expect mids will be in demand yet again and carry a high premium
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2016, 08:57:47 AM
And PNL are just doing a Richmond - hot streak to make finals only to bow out straight away (insert devil emoticon lol)

We're coming to take 4th and the double chance!

The banter is real :P
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on July 14, 2016, 11:10:30 AM
Quote from: Hellopplz on July 13, 2016, 09:49:35 PM
PNL needs mids or draft picks, or both. We offer candies and somebody you can talk to about Pokemon go.
Mids you say? Come talk to me
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on July 14, 2016, 11:10:59 AM
I look to be having defenders galore over at Berlin next year, with Josh Smith & Lachie Henderson likely to gain it.

So really, I'd be all about dem mids & forwards.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on July 14, 2016, 12:07:31 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 14, 2016, 11:10:59 AM
I look to be having defenders galore over at Berlin next year, with Josh Smith & Lachie Henderson likely to gain it.

So really, I'd be all about dem mids & forwards.

Montagna, Hartlett and Corey Ellis likely to gain defender status for us I'd say, and we've already got too many with Boyd, Reid, McVeigh, Gilbert, Dempster, Wilson, Andrews and Lever all in their AFL teams best 22.

I doubt anyone will give me what Ben Reid is actually worth (averages more than Wingard, Tex, Ebert and a plethora of other reputations) so I might have to trade a Boyd type instead.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on July 14, 2016, 12:12:01 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 14, 2016, 12:07:31 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 14, 2016, 11:10:59 AM
I look to be having defenders galore over at Berlin next year, with Josh Smith & Lachie Henderson likely to gain it.

So really, I'd be all about dem mids & forwards.

Montagna, Hartlett and Corey Ellis likely to gain defender status for us I'd say, and we've already got too many with Boyd, Reid, McVeigh, Gilbert, Dempster, Wilson, Andrews and Lever all in their AFL teams best 22.

I doubt anyone will give me what Ben Reid is actually worth (averages more than Wingard, Tex, Ebert and a plethora of other reputations) so I might have to trade a Boyd type instead.

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Saints Backline
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Nige on July 14, 2016, 12:16:16 PM
Our picks are on the table for proven guns, preferably mids (but fwds and defs will be okay depending on the offer).

Pretty much everyone available for the right price though, others harder to move than others. Don't pester me with PMs re: Dayne Beams unless it's a legitimate offer, had some really stupid/poor offers for him last offseason.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Jay on July 14, 2016, 12:54:57 PM
We're after a starting ruck and forward at Pacific. Perhaps a mid depending on how dpp changes are looking will be needed, not necessarily a premium but a solid M4 type would be good. We have lots of good young players & some proven solid players that could be available. We could maybe move on one of our better scoring players if a big offer came along.

Quote from: JBs-Hawks on July 13, 2016, 09:24:43 PM
Marcus Bontempelli is not available.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2016, 12:57:02 PM
Check your PM's Nige

Just sent you an offer of Conca and Kayne Turner for Beams

Instead of everyone saying what they need (because we all need everything) I'd be curios to hear what best 15-18 players teams are happy to put on the table (like Meow has done)

I dare say at this early stage, the only players we wouldn't trade at all are Heeney and Tippett. Everyone else I would be happy to at least discuss :)
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on July 14, 2016, 12:58:36 PM
Everyone is available at Dublin for the right price.

Nobody in the league should be unmovable given that the superstar Liam Anthony has retired because he was that far ahead of everyone else in the league.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2016, 01:01:26 PM
Holz I reckon you'll be a chasing a prem defender - that's probably the only area you're lacking in

Send one of your starting mids our forwards our way and maybe Houli can move  :-X :P
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on July 14, 2016, 01:08:28 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2016, 01:01:26 PM
Holz I reckon you'll be a chasing a prem defender - that's probably the only area you're lacking in

Send one of your starting mids our forwards our way and maybe Houli can move  :-X :P

1. its my area of strength when healthy

Rance Birchall Weits Yarran - Schoenemakers Grundy Hansen Omac Collins Byrne

im trading out backs not trading them in.

2. ill avoid a guy who goes 50 150 40 150. those low scores can lose me games and also I think Yarran will come in next year and hurt him badly in scoring.

Yarran to me is a superior player if he gets his body right. Thats why i bought yarran.

3. Im struggling to name 4 mids this week and 1 of my 5 premo forwards is battling cancer so not strong there. In the backs i had 10 available one week.

Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on July 14, 2016, 01:17:17 PM
Everyone has a price at Berlin, except for Fyfe and my Melbourne rucks  8)

That's right, this is the last time I'll say it, JAKE SPENCER IS NOT FOR SALE!

It'll also be hard to trade Hibberd once he is a demon too  8)
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2016, 01:32:26 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 14, 2016, 01:17:17 PM
Everyone has a price at Berlin, except for Fyfe and my Melbourne rucks  8)

That's right, this is the last time I'll say it, JAKE SPENCER IS NOT FOR SALE!

It'll also be hard to trade Hibberd once he is a demon too  8)

Crouch or Libba for TMac

Just playing with those heart strings  ;D
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on July 14, 2016, 01:36:38 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 14, 2016, 01:08:28 PM
2. ill avoid a guy who goes 50 150 40 150...

Yarran

Sure you will.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on July 14, 2016, 01:43:46 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 14, 2016, 01:36:38 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 14, 2016, 01:08:28 PM
2. ill avoid a guy who goes 50 150 40 150...

Yarran

Sure you will.

I have Yarran in the backline so thats why im not making it two :P

i also sold a guy (Walters) who at the time was a massive yoyo.

Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on July 14, 2016, 01:54:42 PM
Ben Reid scores over 70 every week and averages 84. Only 27 years old so I'll take a top 10 pick for him. Harry Taylor went for pick 10 despite averaging less and being older. Reid is over his injury woes and is now the #2 intercept mark in the comp. The 22nd best defender in terms of SC average. Would accept the 22nd best mid or forward in exchange for him.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on July 14, 2016, 01:58:32 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2016, 01:32:26 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 14, 2016, 01:17:17 PM
Everyone has a price at Berlin, except for Fyfe and my Melbourne rucks  8)

That's right, this is the last time I'll say it, JAKE SPENCER IS NOT FOR SALE!

It'll also be hard to trade Hibberd once he is a demon too  8)

Crouch or Libba for TMac

Just playing with those heart strings  ;D

Haha, Holz tried that last year, but as I told him, me being a melbourne supporter worked against him this time, as I really felt he wouldn't keep that form up  :-X
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2016, 02:05:25 PM
TMac's last 8 games are 144, 77, 82, 92, 94, 99, 74, 99

Just had a slow start to season but averaging 95 over last 8 rounds  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2016, 02:06:45 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 14, 2016, 01:54:42 PM
Ben Reid scores over 70 every week and averages 84. Only 27 years old so I'll take a top 10 pick for him. Harry Taylor went for pick 10 despite averaging less and being older. Reid is over his injury woes and is now the #2 intercept mark in the comp. The 22nd best defender in terms of SC average. Would accept the 22nd best mid or forward in exchange for him.

I'd whole-heatedly agree with that valuation of Reid if he wasn't made of paper
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on July 14, 2016, 02:24:50 PM
Nathan Wilson. 72 average, 23 years old. 60th best defender who now has rock solid JS. Shaw is 31 in November and his long kicking apprentice will continue to get better and eventually take over Shaw's role. He'll average an extra 5 points from 2 more play on kick ins alone.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Nige on July 14, 2016, 03:45:30 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2016, 12:57:02 PM
Check your PM's Nige

Just sent you an offer of Conca and Kayne Turner for Beams
Will take Conca, not Turner, and not for Beams.  :P  ;D
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Jroo on July 14, 2016, 04:16:47 PM
We need a ruckman, Hammer has been our #1 man all season lol  :-\

Also, can't go wrong with more mids
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on July 14, 2016, 05:26:06 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on July 14, 2016, 04:16:47 PM
We need a ruckman, Hammer has been our #1 man all season lol  :-\

Also, can't go wrong with more mids

Sandi and Gibbs?
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2016, 05:45:12 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 14, 2016, 05:26:06 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on July 14, 2016, 04:16:47 PM
We need a ruckman, Hammer has been our #1 man all season lol  :-\

Also, can't go wrong with more mids

Sandi and Gibbs?

I reckon JROO might pay overs to get get Sandi for 12 months whilst his still in the premiership window
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on July 14, 2016, 06:00:09 PM
Everyone for sale.

Clean out coming.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Nige on July 14, 2016, 07:21:37 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on July 14, 2016, 06:00:09 PM
Everyone for sale.

Clean out coming.
I don't believe this for a moment.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2016, 07:30:38 PM
In before Moscow do less than 5 trades
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Jroo on July 14, 2016, 07:35:34 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 14, 2016, 05:26:06 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on July 14, 2016, 04:16:47 PM
We need a ruckman, Hammer has been our #1 man all season lol  :-\

Also, can't go wrong with more mids

Sandi and Gibbs?
For Rocky?
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on July 14, 2016, 07:48:36 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on July 14, 2016, 07:35:34 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 14, 2016, 05:26:06 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on July 14, 2016, 04:16:47 PM
We need a ruckman, Hammer has been our #1 man all season lol  :-\

Also, can't go wrong with more mids

Sandi and Gibbs?
For Rocky?

No thanks. Wouldn't even give up Gibbs for the injury prone one.5 year wonder.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on July 14, 2016, 08:13:39 PM
Christchurch Overrated Players Guide



Bryce Gibbs - 102.9.
My value: 105. Never misses games. My MVP, for sale though. Will only trade for an old guy with similar average, or a 90ish value player who I really want.

Luke Breust - 83.3
My value - 85. Goes 83-87 every year, never misses games.

Jake Stringer - 78.2
My value: 85. Stu back in next year, Redpath/Boyd improving means more mid time for The Package.

Ben Reid - 84.6
My value: Will probably drop him to 80 due to injury in the past. Gun though!

Jordan Roughead - 68.3
My value: 75-80 as a #1 ruck. Scores well without Campbell in the team. WB combo will be Rough/Boyd.

Hamish Hartlett - 77.8
My value: 90 ave def/ 100 mid. Coming off 101, and 101 unsubbed the year before that, likely to regain DPP.

Nathan Wilson - 72.1
My value: 75-80. Think there's still room to improve.

Sam Gilbert - 66.5
My value: 72. Averaged 79 last year, including 90 in the final 6 matches.

Ryan Lester - 61
My value: 70+ ave fwd/mid. Played forward so will gain fwd status, has a career best average of 78 after a 68. Showed he can score with a 97 playing midfield (where he belongs) last week.

Koby Stevens - 87.1
My value: 87-90. Back to back years of 87 with minor injury interruptions. Small chance to regain fwd DPP, out of contract so could move clubs so I'll wait on that.

Tory Dickson - 61.5
My value: 70-75. Struggled after injury this year, averaged 77 last season.

Sean Dempster - 56.4
My value: 70. Averaged 80 last year, another who has stuggled with injury this year.

Jeff Garlett - 59.5
My value: 65-70. Has four 70+ seasons under his belt, including a high of 78.

Aaron Vandenberg - 58.8
My value: 75 fwd/mid. Averaged 75 last year (82.4 with no vest) and is starting to get back to that level after injury interruptions early.

Shaun McKernan - 43.3
My value: More than you can afford.

Will Hoskin-Elliott - 49
My value: 75-80. WTF? Averaged 77 unsubbed from 17 games before his 2 horror years, likely to move to Carlton in the trade period and become a solid scorer.

Jack Trengove - 69.3
My value: 80-85. Think he'll change clubs (almost went to Richmond 2 years ago), has a career best ave of 87 in season 2. Was a #2 draft pick for a reason.

Clay Smith - 88.5
My value: Said I would never trade him when I brought him to 'church. I lied.

Jed Anderson - 33
My value: First round draft pick. Hasn't had a real crack at it yet, showed a bit at the Hawks when not in the vest (70 ave fwd).

Mason Cox - 60.9
My value: 65-70. His rate of improvement has been quite outstanding, haven't seen the best yet.


Blakely, Steele, Andrews, Lever, McLean, Ellis, Langford unlikely to be put up since their ceiling is still unknown and they're showing plenty in their first couple of seasons.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: DazBurg on July 17, 2016, 04:18:46 PM
so with trade talk starting to come up what can i do with my spare time and creativity

http://ffchat.wix.com/chat

:P
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 17, 2016, 07:08:34 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2016, 02:05:25 PM
TMac's last 8 games are 144, 77, 82, 92, 94, 99, 74, 99

Just had a slow start to season but averaging 95 over last 8 rounds  ;)

Make that 9 games in a row - 111 today. Should be nudging a 100 avg by years end  :-*

Feeling pretty good about giving up Libba for him right about now  :)
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: DazBurg on July 19, 2016, 09:52:02 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/crmIMp5.jpg)
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on July 19, 2016, 09:53:45 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 17, 2016, 07:08:34 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2016, 02:05:25 PM
TMac's last 8 games are 144, 77, 82, 92, 94, 99, 74, 99

Just had a slow start to season but averaging 95 over last 8 rounds  ;)

Make that 9 games in a row - 111 today. Should be nudging a 100 avg by years end  :-*

Feeling pretty good about giving up Libba for him right about now  :)
Ha, we gave Libba up for him too in BXVs!
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on July 19, 2016, 09:55:42 PM
Nice little graphic there Daz!

Personally, I'll believe it when I see it  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: DazBurg on July 19, 2016, 09:58:49 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 19, 2016, 09:55:42 PM
Nice little graphic there Daz!

Personally, I'll believe it when I see it  ;)

thought you'd appreciate it purps ;)
hey you never know
we are one of the lesser traders but we are also known to do some trades we feel we need too and if we see a player we want


Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Toga on July 20, 2016, 03:52:55 AM
A defender!
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 20, 2016, 08:35:11 AM
Quote from: Toga on July 20, 2016, 03:52:55 AM
A defender!

Hit us up!

This threads started to tease me! I want to get stuck into trade talks!
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: JBs-Hawks on July 20, 2016, 10:14:19 AM
Quote from: DazBurg on July 19, 2016, 09:58:49 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 19, 2016, 09:55:42 PM
Nice little graphic there Daz!

Personally, I'll believe it when I see it  ;)

thought you'd appreciate it purps ;)
hey you never know
we are one of the lesser traders but we are also known to do some trades we feel we need too and if we see a player we want

You are seen to do a trade if you need too and want too?   :o :o :o
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: My Chumps on July 20, 2016, 03:14:39 PM
Just after forwards and defenders. Everyone's available but I'm also content for nobody to leave :P

Will probably chase after another top 10 pick if anyone's looking to palm theirs off.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Nige on July 20, 2016, 03:57:19 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on July 20, 2016, 03:14:39 PM
Just after forwards and defenders. Everyone's available but I'm also content for nobody to leave :P

Will probably chase after another top 10 pick if anyone's looking to palm theirs off.
You can have Picks 1 and 2 for Dion and Hunter!
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Toga on July 20, 2016, 05:45:12 PM
Will also most likely sell picks
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: DazBurg on July 20, 2016, 06:03:33 PM
we will take all your picks
;)
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on July 20, 2016, 06:49:46 PM
I'll take a first round pick for Nathan Wilson. You're not going to draft a 70+ defender with solid JS and his development years behind him, plus Wilson is still getting better too.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on July 20, 2016, 07:10:15 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 20, 2016, 06:49:46 PM
I'll take a first round pick for Nathan Wilson. You're not going to draft a 70+ defender with solid JS and his development years behind him, plus Wilson is still getting better too.

Marcus adams?
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on July 20, 2016, 07:13:12 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 20, 2016, 07:10:15 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 20, 2016, 06:49:46 PM
I'll take a first round pick for Nathan Wilson. You're not going to draft a 70+ defender with solid JS and his development years behind him, plus Wilson is still getting better too.

Marcus adams?

Pretty sure he's already been drafted.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: My Chumps on July 21, 2016, 12:08:45 AM
Quote from: Nige on July 20, 2016, 03:57:19 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on July 20, 2016, 03:14:39 PM
Just after forwards and defenders. Everyone's available but I'm also content for nobody to leave :P

Will probably chase after another top 10 pick if anyone's looking to palm theirs off.
You can have Picks 1 and 2 for Dion and Hunter!
Throw in Beams and you've got a deal!

PS, did you know Prestia's out for the rest of the season? Boy-oh-boy wowee.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on July 21, 2016, 09:59:36 PM
Wouldn't mind trading a back for a forward. McVeigh for NROO would be ideal so if anyone wants to extract him from JROO that would be cool. Wilson (74 ave before his injury affected game) for a 74ish forward would also be nice since it would turn a depth defender into a starting forward (my F4 averages only 68 :'(). Got a 74ish average 23 year old forward to send my way? Or 24yo 75/ 25yo 77/ 26 yo 79/ 27yo 81/ 28yo 83/ 29yo 85/ 30yo 87 etc?


BOYD, McVEIGH, MONTAGNA, HARTLETT - REID, Wilson, Lever, Andrews, C. Ellis, D. McKenzie, Gilbert, Dempster, Wigg, Viojo-Rainbow, Finlayson, Silvagni

WATSON, MITCHELL, GRIFFEN, GIBBS, STEVENS - Blakely, Trengove, Neal-Bullen, Davis

SANDILANDS - Roughead, Cox, McKernan, Minson

STRINGER, BREUST, CLAY, McLEAN - Steele (mid), Vandenberg (mid), Langford (mid), Lester (def), Hoskin-Elliott, Dickson, Anderson, McKenna, Garlett
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on July 21, 2016, 10:01:49 PM
im just worried about how trade voting will go.

there were lots of deals that passed that turned out to be ripping people off.

then lots of deals that were rejected that look very fair now.

Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on July 21, 2016, 10:45:03 PM
Nobody is going to trade with your arrogant ass anymore so you don't need to worry about the voting.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Nige on July 21, 2016, 10:52:00 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 21, 2016, 10:45:03 PM
Nobody is going to trade with your arrogant ass anymore so you don't need to worry about the voting.
Haha, you'll be surprised.

Holz can sell ice to eskimoes.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on July 21, 2016, 10:56:35 PM
Quote from: Nige on July 21, 2016, 10:52:00 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 21, 2016, 10:45:03 PM
Nobody is going to trade with your arrogant ass anymore so you don't need to worry about the voting.
Haha, you'll be surprised.

Holz can sell ice to eskimoes.

why use that normal ice when you can have this pure ice to drink from or this ice with sawdust in it to increase strengh by 20 times.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on July 21, 2016, 10:56:43 PM
Just remember everyone.

You negged:

Moscow Give: Cal Ward
Beijing Give: Cale Hooker, Tom Bell, Pick 8

We had to then give up Jenkins, not something we wanted or Toga really wanted at the time. He is now a 90 Forward.  ::)

#giveusaprioritypick
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 22, 2016, 12:06:22 AM
Quote from: Holz on July 21, 2016, 10:01:49 PM
there were lots of deals that passed that turned out to be ripping people off.

then lots of deals that were rejected that look very fair now.

Not being sarcastic, seriously asking - got some examples?

And Torp, you lose that trade in hindsight, but at the time Hooker was coming off a 90, Bell similar and Pick 8 so a starting def, starting forward and 1st round pick seems like a hell of a lot for mid. Jenkins was a 70 fwd and balanced it out - just unlucky in hindsight as nobody expected Jerker to score so well this year
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: JBs-Hawks on July 22, 2016, 12:19:35 AM
And if you didnt like the deal with Jenkins involved nobody was forcing you to do it so quit complaining.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on July 22, 2016, 09:59:09 AM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on July 22, 2016, 12:19:35 AM
And if you didnt like the deal with Jenkins involved nobody was forcing you to do it so quit complaining.

Could have given someone instead of jenkins aswell.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on July 22, 2016, 10:11:44 AM
It's alright guys, just reminding all coaches that you don't know anywhere near as much as the coaches involved in the trade, hence don't neg trades. ;)
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Nige on July 22, 2016, 10:13:23 AM
Um, what is that even supposed to mean?  ???
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on July 22, 2016, 10:15:02 AM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on July 22, 2016, 10:11:44 AM
It's alright guys, just reminding all coaches that you don't know anywhere near as much as the coaches involved in the trade, hence don't neg trades. ;)

But you obvisouly didnt see jenkins turning into a star so who do you trust.

No trade should be neeged we have soo many examples of the process failing. Its ridicoulous that teams can stop other teams from trading.

I thought we were supposed to following the afl, they dont have this for a very good reason
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on July 22, 2016, 10:15:12 AM
Quote from: Nige on July 22, 2016, 10:13:23 AM
Um, what is that even supposed to mean?  ???
Don't neg trades!

Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 22, 2016, 10:29:37 AM
Ahhh the old quarterly discussion around making changes to the way we trade  ;D

Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on July 22, 2016, 10:30:23 AM
Stop beating a dead horse Holz  ;) trade voting is here to stay

Which reminds me, I've been thinking long and hard on ways to make the whole process a bit more bearable.

Some of the ideas that I think I will implement:

1) I'm going to be a lot more strict on reasons why people are negging a trade. If I think it's because of a personal reason, or the neg is out of being petty, or not enough detail is in the neg, then I simply won't count it

2) I'll be PMing the coaches involved in the negged trade; quoting the reason why people negged the trade, but will omit the author of the trade rejecter(s)

3) I'll be implementing a strict "no whinging" policy. Whenever anyone is whinging about a trade decision, I'll simply say "stop whinging, move on", or maybe even delete their post, even if it looks like I'm being a dick, and even if it is a legitimate complaint... I'm tired of it. I'll no longer be defending my decisions outside of the post that made it, at least in the public eye, i.e. I won't be making ANY posts discussing the merits of a trade. You have no idea how much the last trade period took out of me.

4) I'm thinking about jumping the gun in ruling the decisions of some trades to speed the process up. For example, if we're waiting on 3 more coaches, and I'm happy with a trade that has 1 or 2 votes attached to it, then I'll pass it. The coaches that missed out still have to send me their votes though.

5) If a trade goes ahead where it involved one coach not resolving a loose end in trade talks with another coach i.e. trade someone who another coach PMed about, and you traded them anyway, then I think that might just be an auto-neg, until you resolve the loose end

6).... to be decided  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on July 22, 2016, 10:37:42 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 22, 2016, 10:30:23 AM
Stop beating a dead horse Holz  ;) trade voting is here to stay

Which reminds me, I've been thinking long and hard on ways to make the whole process a bit more bearable.

Some of the ideas that I think I will implement:

1) I'm going to be a lot more strict on reasons why people are negging a trade. If I think it's because of a personal reason, or the neg is out of being petty, or not enough detail is in the neg, then I simply won't count it

2) I'll be PMing the coaches involved in the negged trade; quoting the reason why people negged the trade, but will omit the author of the trade rejecter(s)

3) I'll be implementing a strict "no whinging" policy. Whenever anyone is whinging about a trade decision, I'll simply say "stop whinging, move on", or maybe even delete their post, even if it looks like I'm being a dick, and even if it is a legitimate complaint... I'm tired of it. I'll no longer be defending my decisions outside of the post that made it, at least in the public eye, i.e. I won't be making ANY posts discussing the merits of a trade. You have no idea how much the last trade period took out of me.

4) I'm thinking about jumping the gun in ruling the decisions of some trades to speed the process up. For example, if we're waiting on 3 more coaches, and I'm happy with a trade that has 1 or 2 votes attached to it, then I'll pass it. The coaches that missed out still have to send me their votes though.

5) If a trade goes ahead where it involved one coach not resolving a loose end in trade talks with another coach i.e. trade someone who another coach PMed about, and you traded them anyway, then I think that might just be an auto-neg, until you resolve the loose end

6).... to be decided  ;)

happy with those moves.

especially people having to give a valid reason for negging. People doing the trades probably end up doing at least 30 minutes of research (I do alot more) then i think some (not all) make a decision to neg or pass in a few seconds.



Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on July 22, 2016, 10:44:45 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 22, 2016, 10:30:23 AM
Stop beating a dead horse Holz  ;) trade voting is here to stay

Which reminds me, I've been thinking long and hard on ways to make the whole process a bit more bearable.

Some of the ideas that I think I will implement:

1) I'm going to be a lot more strict on reasons why people are negging a trade. If I think it's because of a personal reason, or the neg is out of being petty, or not enough detail is in the neg, then I simply won't count it

2) I'll be PMing the coaches involved in the negged trade; quoting the reason why people negged the trade, but will omit the author of the trade rejecter(s)

3) I'll be implementing a strict "no whinging" policy. Whenever anyone is whinging about a trade decision, I'll simply say "stop whinging, move on", or maybe even delete their post, even if it looks like I'm being a dick, and even if it is a legitimate complaint... I'm tired of it. I'll no longer be defending my decisions outside of the post that made it, at least in the public eye, i.e. I won't be making ANY posts discussing the merits of a trade. You have no idea how much the last trade period took out of me.

4) I'm thinking about jumping the gun in ruling the decisions of some trades to speed the process up. For example, if we're waiting on 3 more coaches, and I'm happy with a trade that has 1 or 2 votes attached to it, then I'll pass it. The coaches that missed out still have to send me their votes though.

5) If a trade goes ahead where it involved one coach not resolving a loose end in trade talks with another coach i.e. trade someone who another coach PMed about, and you traded them anyway, then I think that might just be an auto-neg, until you resolve the loose end

6).... to be decided  ;)
This I don't like.

If someone negs a trade they should be known.

We shouldn't treat this like an Election, we should treat it like a Parliament.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 22, 2016, 10:44:47 AM
Nice Purps

Good to see you've put your big boy pants on and made some firm decisions :)

I think in the past you've tried your best/too much to try and please everyone, and as Admin you just can't do that

We voted you in as Admin because we know you're fair and reasonable, so I'm glad to see you are now finally just telling us how it's going to be as opposed to asking 20 people how they want it to be

Once you make these sort of decisions, people who might not agree move on very quickly because what's done is done

Should have been like this from the beginning, but understand you're just a top bloke who wanted to please everyone and keep the peace but you've now realised that can't be done so it's up to you to lay down and enforce the law!  8)
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 22, 2016, 10:46:17 AM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on July 22, 2016, 10:44:45 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 22, 2016, 10:30:23 AM
Stop beating a dead horse Holz  ;) trade voting is here to stay

Which reminds me, I've been thinking long and hard on ways to make the whole process a bit more bearable.

Some of the ideas that I think I will implement:

1) I'm going to be a lot more strict on reasons why people are negging a trade. If I think it's because of a personal reason, or the neg is out of being petty, or not enough detail is in the neg, then I simply won't count it

2) I'll be PMing the coaches involved in the negged trade; quoting the reason why people negged the trade, but will omit the author of the trade rejecter(s)

3) I'll be implementing a strict "no whinging" policy. Whenever anyone is whinging about a trade decision, I'll simply say "stop whinging, move on", or maybe even delete their post, even if it looks like I'm being a dick, and even if it is a legitimate complaint... I'm tired of it. I'll no longer be defending my decisions outside of the post that made it, at least in the public eye, i.e. I won't be making ANY posts discussing the merits of a trade. You have no idea how much the last trade period took out of me.

4) I'm thinking about jumping the gun in ruling the decisions of some trades to speed the process up. For example, if we're waiting on 3 more coaches, and I'm happy with a trade that has 1 or 2 votes attached to it, then I'll pass it. The coaches that missed out still have to send me their votes though.

5) If a trade goes ahead where it involved one coach not resolving a loose end in trade talks with another coach i.e. trade someone who another coach PMed about, and you traded them anyway, then I think that might just be an auto-neg, until you resolve the loose end

6).... to be decided  ;)
This I don't like.

If someone negs a trade they should be known.

We shouldn't treat this like an Election, we should treat it like a Parliament.

You don't need to know, because that will influence your opinion of that coach and your future dealings with them

There is no benefit whatsoever of knowing who it was - just their reasoning is what's required
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on July 22, 2016, 10:49:17 AM
Haha cheers RD! Yeah I identified last off-season that making decisions was something I needed to work on, and that trade period made be jaded enough to not care anymore about pleasing everyone :P

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 22, 2016, 10:46:17 AM
You don't need to know, because that will influence your opinion of that coach and your future dealings with them

There is no benefit whatsoever of knowing who it was - just their reasoning is what's required

Yeah this is why, and it'll also get personal eventually.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on July 22, 2016, 10:52:20 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 22, 2016, 10:46:17 AM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on July 22, 2016, 10:44:45 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 22, 2016, 10:30:23 AM
Stop beating a dead horse Holz  ;) trade voting is here to stay

Which reminds me, I've been thinking long and hard on ways to make the whole process a bit more bearable.

Some of the ideas that I think I will implement:

1) I'm going to be a lot more strict on reasons why people are negging a trade. If I think it's because of a personal reason, or the neg is out of being petty, or not enough detail is in the neg, then I simply won't count it

2) I'll be PMing the coaches involved in the negged trade; quoting the reason why people negged the trade, but will omit the author of the trade rejecter(s)

3) I'll be implementing a strict "no whinging" policy. Whenever anyone is whinging about a trade decision, I'll simply say "stop whinging, move on", or maybe even delete their post, even if it looks like I'm being a dick, and even if it is a legitimate complaint... I'm tired of it. I'll no longer be defending my decisions outside of the post that made it, at least in the public eye, i.e. I won't be making ANY posts discussing the merits of a trade. You have no idea how much the last trade period took out of me.

4) I'm thinking about jumping the gun in ruling the decisions of some trades to speed the process up. For example, if we're waiting on 3 more coaches, and I'm happy with a trade that has 1 or 2 votes attached to it, then I'll pass it. The coaches that missed out still have to send me their votes though.

5) If a trade goes ahead where it involved one coach not resolving a loose end in trade talks with another coach i.e. trade someone who another coach PMed about, and you traded them anyway, then I think that might just be an auto-neg, until you resolve the loose end

6).... to be decided  ;)
This I don't like.

If someone negs a trade they should be known.

We shouldn't treat this like an Election, we should treat it like a Parliament.

You don't need to know, because that will influence your opinion of that coach and your future dealings with them

There is no benefit whatsoever of knowing who it was - just their reasoning is what's required
People's decisions do influence your opinion of the coach. Choosing to Neg a trade is a decision. As long as there's no hostility to select few coaches, then there shouldn't be issues.

That said, Purps' other rules are top notch and should cover any trade negging over other reasons. 
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on July 22, 2016, 11:07:07 AM
I'll take over trade rulings if its too much for you Purps. I'd be like "flower you peasant, I am the authorityand I say McKernan isn't worth 12 and if you whine anymore I'll cut your balls off and feed them to Ramsay's dogs.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on July 22, 2016, 11:11:52 AM
...after I give myself a compensation pick for the  Watson and Zorko/Griffen injustices :P
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on July 22, 2016, 11:16:32 AM
hahahaha meow


and great stuff Purps, happy with all those changes
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on July 22, 2016, 11:36:25 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 22, 2016, 12:06:22 AM
Quote from: Holz on July 21, 2016, 10:01:49 PM
there were lots of deals that passed that turned out to be ripping people off.

then lots of deals that were rejected that look very fair now.

Not being sarcastic, seriously asking - got some examples?

I picked 2014 as we have 1.5 years to evaluate

Trades Rejected:

1. New York Give: Harley Bennell + Aaron Black + Will Hoskin-Elliott + Craig Moller
Dublin Give: Michael Walters + Josh Green + Pick 21 + Pick 39 + Pick 57

Dublin won too much. Walters is looking pretty solid and Pick 21 i would have used on Miller.

2. Moscow trade: Callum Sinclair and 4th Round Pick
London trade: Joe Daniher

Moscow was winning too much. I reckon London came out on top

3. Moscow trade: Heath Shaw
New York trade: Luke McDonald and David Armitage

Moscow again winning too much. They ended up having to give more and in the end got ripped off.

4 Dublin Give: Pick 12 + Pick 21 + Luke Delaney + Shuan Grigg + Sam Frost + Neville Jetta + George Hewett
Dillos Give: Dane Swan + Paul Chapman

Dublin winning too much and bad for the comp. Grigg has turned into a good player, Jetta is starting for me this week and the picks were handy. Pick 12 was lachie weller and as i said 21 would have got me Touk Miller.

5. Dublin Trades: Tom Rockliff + Robert Murphy + N57
Dublin Receives: Steele Sidebottom + Shannon Hurn + Daniel Wells + Josh Saunders + N84

Mexico Trades: Steele Sidebottom + Shannon Hurn
Mexico Receives: Tom Rockliff

Berlin Trades: Daniel Wells + Josh Saunders + N84
Berlin Receives: Robert Murphy + N57

actually much fairer then the trade i ended up getting for rocky. Gunston + Boak over those guys every day of the week. gunston is worth more then Rocky.

6.NDT give: N5
Christchurch give: TAdams

pick 5 aparently not worth Adams.


7.New York give: Tom Liberatore and Harley Bennell
Dublin give: Travis Boak and Jack Gunston

Dublin apparently winning by too much. Thank you competition for saving me of this one.


ok so these are some of the trades that passed:

1. Pacific give: Brad Sheppard
London give: Rory Laird

2. Trade 14
New York give: Mark Blicavs and Darcy Lang
Cape Town give: Nathan Vardy and Jamie Bennell

3. Dublin trade: Charlie Dixon + Jack Watts
Berlin trade: Dayne Zorko + Pick 12

4.Dublin trade: Robbie Gray
Moscow trade: Dustin Martin

5.Dublin give: Brodie Martin + Matthew Taberner
Pacific give: Matthew Scharenberg.

6. Berlin trade: Josh J Kennedy, Paul Duffield + Pick 30
New York trade: Adam Treloar + Pick 24

7. Cairo give: Sam Mitchell and Pick 33
Christchurch give: Nick Smith and Travis Colyer

8. Mexico City give: Zak Jones
Berlin give: Leigh Montagna





Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Jay on July 22, 2016, 11:49:42 AM
Laird averaged 59 that year.. Sure the trade doesn't look good now but at the time it was fine. And that's always going to happen, we can't predict exactly how a trade will turn out. All we can do is look at the facts of each trade at the time. A few will always slip through but overall I think the trade system is very fair and Purp's new rules should make it even better.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on July 22, 2016, 11:51:44 AM
Lol meow :P




Hindsight is a wonderful thing though, isn't it?

No matter what trade process is involved, ranging from none, democracy, semi-democracy (where we are), or dictatorship, there is going to be some god damn awful trades passed and rejected.

So you listed 15 trades there out of the 200+ that was done during those two years? Not a bad strike rate if you ask me.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on July 22, 2016, 12:01:31 PM
Quote from: Jay on July 22, 2016, 11:49:42 AM
Laird averaged 59 that year.. Sure the trade doesn't look good now but at the time it was fine. And that's always going to happen, we can't predict exactly how a trade will turn out. All we can do is look at the facts of each trade at the time. A few will always slip through but overall I think the trade system is very fair and Purp's new rules should make it even better.
Exactly Jay.

Most trades that are experience for youth will come back looking shocking when you look at them again a couple of years later.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 22, 2016, 12:07:34 PM
Besides the last 2 trades (that passed) I think all of those other ones you listed are about right

Like Jay said, we can only assess at the time of the trade. Yes in hindsight some of them didn't work out but at the time I don't see any glaring issues

Now that Purps has grown a pair (:P) I think this upcoming trade period will be good
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: My Chumps on July 22, 2016, 02:30:11 PM
Quote from: Jay on July 22, 2016, 11:49:42 AM
Laird averaged 59 that year.. Sure the trade doesn't look good now but at the time it was fine. And that's always going to happen, we can't predict exactly how a trade will turn out. All we can do is look at the facts of each trade at the time. A few will always slip through but overall I think the trade system is very fair and Purp's new rules should make it even better.
Well said!

It's ridiculous to bring up all those "trades that passed" that now look uneven; that's how people attack the entire trade period, to pick up guys who they think are going to be good but are flying under the radar. You get bargains that people don't expect at the time, all part of the fun!

Quote from: Holz on July 22, 2016, 11:36:25 AM
2. Moscow trade: Callum Sinclair and 4th Round Pick
London trade: Joe Daniher

Moscow was winning too much. I reckon London came out on top
Just an aside, how on earth can you say London were coming out on top? Cal Sinclair is a 26y/o who averages 63. He's awful. Daniher at least has potential. He averages more as a 22y/o key forward. flower outta here
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on July 22, 2016, 03:34:38 PM
Number 6 is my compo pick isn't it? Thanks Purps, I always knew you were a fair dictator.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Levi434 on July 22, 2016, 04:10:07 PM
This is going to be one damn interesting trade period! 8)
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Jukes on July 22, 2016, 04:46:02 PM
I just think that trades should be negged only if they're extraordinarily lopsided and are being affected by other factors (not necessarily collusion but other stuff like personal bias or just plain lack of thought), not nitpicking every single little aspect of a trade and if they're not 100% even in every area they're not fair - this doesn't really reward good trading at all unless a coach knows something that the other coach (and other coaches) does not, moreso good luck (like the Sheppard-Laird trade - not necessarily because of great coaching or trading, just good luck)
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on July 22, 2016, 04:47:07 PM
Quote from: Jukes on July 22, 2016, 04:46:02 PM
I just think that trades should be negged only if they're extraordinarily lopsided and are being affected by other factors (not necessarily collusion but other stuff like personal bias or just plain lack of thought), not nitpicking every single little aspect of a trade and if they're not 100% even in every area they're not fair - this doesn't really reward good trading at all unless a coach knows something that the other coach (and other coaches) does not, moreso good luck (like the Sheppard-Laird trade - not necessarily because of great coaching or trading, just good luck)

heres a first I 100% agree with what a moscow coach has said.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on July 22, 2016, 04:57:42 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 22, 2016, 03:34:38 PM
Number 6 is my compo pick isn't it? Thanks Purps, I always knew you were a fair dictator.

You know nothing Jon Snow meow meow
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on July 22, 2016, 05:03:17 PM
I'll point out btw, is that Worlds, as a competition, hasn't been this even since 2012; when no trade restrictions were in place at the end of that year which severely lopsided the comp. Maybe that's got to do with good coaches taking over "those" ones, maybe that's got to do with the cap (it totally does), but MAYBE that's got to do with the trade voting as well.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on July 22, 2016, 05:07:59 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 22, 2016, 05:03:17 PM
I'll point out btw, is that Worlds, as a competition, hasn't been this even since 2012; when no trade restrictions were in place at the end of that year which severely lopsided the comp. Maybe that's got to do with good coaches taking over "those" ones, maybe that's got to do with the cap (it totally does), but MAYBE that's got to do with the trade voting as well.

maybe its got to do with coaches learning as their a history to go back on and also the fact that initially people went really old to win the flags or really young to try and dominate. The really old teams have pulled back on this approach as its no sustainable and they pull back as players get old. The young teams have had years of high draft picks and also their players arent as young any more and people have learnt having a whole team under 23 is silly.

The high draft picks is what causes equalisation, that and the quality coaching.

Sadly we dont have a parallel universe with no cap and no trade voting but i reckon it would be as even if not more even.

Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 22, 2016, 06:09:27 PM
Hmmm, I'm fine with the current system but I like the point Juker implied about the voting system essentially disabling a better coach who has insight etc that perhaps others don't etc

Not the best example by a long shot, but I wanted Grigg badly because I had him in i5's previously and watched him closely, believing he could go 90+ and although we got him cheap as he wasn't rated, if he was actually on others radars it could have changed things, essentially penalising me for my knowledge over the other coach

Like I said not a great example at all, but hopefully you get the point

I guess the negative is that having 20 coaches oversee every trade does take away the edge some coaches may have over others. Good for equality, but frustrating as a coach
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on August 01, 2016, 08:15:19 PM
... oh, the curiosities too much.

I'm now dropping his chance at staying to 99%. Please keep that in mind! But I just want to see what I COULD get for him.

For two young-to-mid-aged (no one 27 or over) premos (not potential, not has been), Nat Fyfe COULD be available. Note, one would have to likely be a midfielder, preferably both.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on August 01, 2016, 08:20:49 PM
Is the best player in the world the best player in the world if they never play?

Gibbs > Fyfe
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 01, 2016, 08:54:00 PM
Duncan and Hill

You won't get a better offer, but we wouldn't give that anyway :P

Or would we? :X
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on August 01, 2016, 09:07:33 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 01, 2016, 08:54:00 PM
Duncan and Hill

You won't get a better offer, but we wouldn't give that anyway :P

Or would we? :X
Im pretty sure you would :P
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on August 01, 2016, 09:09:46 PM
Quote from: iZander on August 01, 2016, 09:07:33 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 01, 2016, 08:54:00 PM
Duncan and Hill

You won't get a better offer, but we wouldn't give that anyway :P

Or would we? :X
Im pretty sure you would :P

You would then the first ever 16 vote rejects
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on August 01, 2016, 09:22:47 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 01, 2016, 09:09:46 PM
Quote from: iZander on August 01, 2016, 09:07:33 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 01, 2016, 08:54:00 PM
Duncan and Hill

You won't get a better offer, but we wouldn't give that anyway :P

Or would we? :X
Im pretty sure you would :P

You would then the first ever 16 vote rejects

well you wouldnt reject your own trade surly?
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 01, 2016, 09:50:25 PM
Haha, no chance we'd give that!

But I was more or less suggesting that is what it would take for Purps to even consider!

Basically, Purps won't trade him
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on August 01, 2016, 10:03:15 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 01, 2016, 09:50:25 PM
Haha, no chance we'd give that!

But I was more or less suggesting that is what it would take for Purps to even consider!

Basically, Purps won't trade him

Duncan - 95, Hill - 90 now lets say your captain averages 100 (didnt look that close at your team but i think its lewis?). Now lets say fyfe goes 120 (which is lower than last few years).

SO, lets compare, Lewis (100x2) + Duncan (95) + Hill (90) vs Fyfe (120x2) + Lewis (100) + 45

So if you can replace him with a 45 mid you are even, which would so so freaking easy to replace with a player much better than 45 average in the midfield. Basically could get 80+ for chips.

I honestly cant see how you could say you wouldnt do it...

This is worst case scenario too as i rounded up for your averages and rounded down for Fyfes :P

(i hope the maths is right, im really tired right now, but the point remains the same)
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on August 01, 2016, 10:04:57 PM
^ Good to see someone else who gets it.

Trading Boak and Gunston for Rocky and Green made sense when I factored in captaincy, then I reaslised that Rocky had no chance of going 120+ again so I bailed.



Purps should have to add something little (2nd round pick) to Fyfe in the above scenario.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: My Chumps on August 01, 2016, 10:07:17 PM
Haha I would be giving up Duncan and Hill in a heartbeat :-X
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on August 01, 2016, 10:09:21 PM
Heh.

;)
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on August 01, 2016, 10:34:49 PM
Matty Boyd agreed to be traded.

Nathan Wilson attracting a bit of attention as desired.

Hartlett attracting attention from people who think I'll trade him at his 2016 average, not going to happen sorry.

Daniel McKenzie had a couple of enquiries.

Alex Neal-Bullen the same as DMac.

Gibbs been offered a couple of times - no bites.

Stringer been offered a couple of times - no bites.

Picks 9, 28, 46, 64 and 82 offered for one player who averages less than 70 - no bite.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on August 01, 2016, 10:43:32 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 01, 2016, 10:34:49 PM
Matty Boyd agreed to be traded.

Nathan Wilson attracting a bit of attention as desired.

Hartlett attracting attention from people who think I'll trade him at his 2016 average, not going to happen sorry.

Daniel McKenzie had a couple of enquiries.

Alex Neal-Bullen the same as DMac.

Gibbs been offered a couple of times - no bites.

Stringer been offered a couple of times - no bites.

Picks 9, 28, 46, 64 and 82 offered for one player who averages less than 70 - no bite.

Meow trying to rip people off on trades - plenty of bites

;)
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: JBs-Hawks on August 01, 2016, 11:15:55 PM
Not Available

P Dangerfield, N Haynes, T Lynch, K Lovell, T Greene, J Kelly

Dont want to trade but could

T Langdon, T Duryea, C Salem, C Marchbank, D Swallow, L Whitfield, J Newnes, D Myers, C Oliver, L Weller, C Mccarthy, B Matera, T Boyd, C Daniel, J Thomas

More likely to be traded

C Sutcliffe (Freo), J Trengove (Port), T Doedee (Adel), J Frost (Coll), J Clarke (Bris), J Ashby (Ess), L Russell (GC)
L Shiels (Haw), L Whitfield (GWS) D Mackay (Adel), N Freeman (StK) M White (Port), P McKenna (GWS), J Snadden (WC)
B McEvoy (Haw), J Ceglar (Haw) B McGlynn (Syd), T Varcoe (Coll), B Boekhorst (Carl), E Templeton (StK) B Macaffer (Coll), J Castagna (Rich), C Glass (Haw), S Reid (GWS), K Brand (Haw)
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 01, 2016, 11:18:03 PM
My reasoning for saying I wouldn't do that trade was because our midfield is not deep enough to give up 2 for 1, and to be honest I just threw that out there off the cuff without evening thinking about it properly

That being said, of course Fyfe, Lewis and whatever scores more than Lewis, Duncan, Hill but the one thing you forget is Lewis is a lot older, so in 2 years time or whatever we could be Fyfe at M1 followed by rookies lol

Duncan and Hill I just through out because they met Purps criteria of age and status



Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on August 01, 2016, 11:21:14 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 01, 2016, 11:18:03 PM
My reasoning for saying I wouldn't do that trade was because our midfield is not deep enough to give up 2 for 1, and to be honest I just threw that out there off the cuff without evening thinking about it properly

That being said, of course Fyfe, Lewis and whatever scores more than Lewis, Duncan, Hill but the one thing you forget is Lewis is a lot older, so in 2 years time or whatever we could be Fyfe at M1 followed by rookies lol

Duncan and Hill I just through out because they met Purps criteria of age and status

Lewis was the player on both sides the equation, if anything that means you lose your captain choice? Feels like your adding to my point? :P

Yeah no doubt you need to have some kind of depth first but a 45 averaging mid cant be too hard to find ;)

Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: JBs-Hawks on August 01, 2016, 11:23:25 PM
Quote from: iZander on August 01, 2016, 11:21:14 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 01, 2016, 11:18:03 PM
My reasoning for saying I wouldn't do that trade was because our midfield is not deep enough to give up 2 for 1, and to be honest I just threw that out there off the cuff without evening thinking about it properly

That being said, of course Fyfe, Lewis and whatever scores more than Lewis, Duncan, Hill but the one thing you forget is Lewis is a lot older, so in 2 years time or whatever we could be Fyfe at M1 followed by rookies lol

Duncan and Hill I just through out because they met Purps criteria of age and status

Lewis was the player on both sides the equation, if anything that means you lose your captain choice? Feels like your adding to my point? :P

Yeah no doubt you need to have some kind of depth first but a 45 averaging mid cant be too hard to find ;)

I dunno Cairo seem to like playing OOP :P
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 01, 2016, 11:24:52 PM
Quote from: iZander on August 01, 2016, 11:21:14 PM
Lewis was the player on both sides the equation, if anything that means you lose your captain choice? Feels like your adding to my point? :P

Yeah no doubt you need to have some kind of depth first but a 45 averaging mid cant be too hard to find ;)

Not really, because we have other players for captain options - Lewis isn't the clear choice by any stretch, which is why we CC most weeks because we don't have a clear number 1

We're not Buenos Aires who rely on 1 captain :P

45 avg mid is fine in your example, but doesn't help in a couple of years when Lewis is not around

Anyway, let's just see if Purps is somewhat interested in discussing it and see what happens  :P
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 01, 2016, 11:37:42 PM
We're on the lookout for an elite mid, and starting prem forward

Let me know if you have someone you could possibly trade us

Ideally we would be looking to offer a prem defender (plus more depending on who you offer)
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on August 01, 2016, 11:41:47 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 01, 2016, 11:24:52 PM
Quote from: iZander on August 01, 2016, 11:21:14 PM
Lewis was the player on both sides the equation, if anything that means you lose your captain choice? Feels like your adding to my point? :P

Yeah no doubt you need to have some kind of depth first but a 45 averaging mid cant be too hard to find ;)

Not really, because we have other players for captain options - Lewis isn't the clear choice by any stretch, which is why we CC most weeks because we don't have a clear number 1

We're not Buenos Aires who rely on 1 captain :P

45 avg mid is fine in your example, but doesn't help in a couple of years when Lewis is not around

Anyway, let's just see if Purps is somewhat interested in discussing it and see what happens  :P

haha fair enough, ill start with adding that Fyfe would be the youngest player in the trade too :P

What? Rely on pendles? dont be silly ;)

Ok, so 3 + years down the track youve been running with a 45 avarging mid but lewis has reired.....flower...BUT, you are a great coach and you have budded some amazing talent so you have two 72.5 averaging mids to replace lewis and the 45 averager. Still even.

haha, dont try and justify this please :P
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on August 01, 2016, 11:45:56 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 01, 2016, 11:37:42 PM
We're on the lookout for an elite mid, and starting prem forward

Let me know if you have someone you could possibly trade us

Ideally we would be looking to offer a prem defender (plus more depending on who you offer)
Good thing NDT have roughly 1000 mids
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Toga on August 02, 2016, 02:23:35 AM
After mids and defenders, could trade pretty much any of our forwards except for Zorko and our first pick which looks like being 10. HMU
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Hellopplz on August 02, 2016, 01:36:24 PM
Boomz is having trouble accessing the forum while he's travelling. To those PMing him about trades he'll get back to you soon when he's able to access the forum again!
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on August 02, 2016, 01:48:09 PM
Argh, so many PMs... will get to you eventually! Have a heavy uni day atm.

But just quickly, Hill + Duncan is not even close to what I'm looking for :P
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 02, 2016, 01:53:48 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 02, 2016, 01:48:09 PM
Argh, so many PMs... will get to you eventually! Have a heavy uni day atm.

But just quickly, Hill + Duncan is not even close to what I'm looking for :P

Not even close? Bahumbug!
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on August 02, 2016, 01:55:19 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 02, 2016, 01:53:48 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 02, 2016, 01:48:09 PM
Argh, so many PMs... will get to you eventually! Have a heavy uni day atm.

But just quickly, Hill + Duncan is not even close to what I'm looking for :P

Not even close? Bahumbug!

Why would he take that when Gibbs and Stringer is on the table?
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 02, 2016, 01:58:08 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 02, 2016, 01:55:19 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 02, 2016, 01:53:48 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 02, 2016, 01:48:09 PM
Argh, so many PMs... will get to you eventually! Have a heavy uni day atm.

But just quickly, Hill + Duncan is not even close to what I'm looking for :P

Not even close? Bahumbug!

Why would he take that when Gibbs and Stringer is on the table?

If there is a better deal on the table, then no problems - but to say Duncan and Hill "isn't even close"  :o

All good, I know it's all in jest  :D
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 02, 2016, 02:02:40 PM
I love clicking "Who's Online" and seeing so many coaches showing as "sending a message"

Haha, trade talk fever is already in full swing!  ;D
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: DazBurg on August 02, 2016, 02:38:46 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 02, 2016, 02:02:40 PM
I love clicking "Who's Online" and seeing so many coaches showing as "sending a message"

Haha, trade talk fever is already in full swing!  ;D
LOL
i love doing this too

also @ purps
maybe you should of not mentioned Fyfe till a less busy couple of upcoming days :P

For fyfe i'll put Wingard on the table :P :P :P
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on August 02, 2016, 03:09:47 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 02, 2016, 02:02:40 PM
I love clicking "Who's Online" and seeing so many coaches showing as "sending a message"

Haha, trade talk fever is already in full swing!  ;D
omg, i thought i was the only one :P
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on August 02, 2016, 03:10:41 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 02, 2016, 01:48:09 PM
Have a heavy uni day atm.
Dont you even say that ;)
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on August 02, 2016, 03:24:40 PM
Quote from: iZander on August 02, 2016, 03:10:41 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 02, 2016, 01:48:09 PM
Have a heavy uni day atm.
Dont you even say that ;)

Shh, they don't know my schedule! :P
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on August 02, 2016, 03:26:06 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 02, 2016, 01:58:08 PM

If there is a better deal on the table, then no problems - but to say Duncan and Hill "isn't even close"  :o

All good, I know it's all in jest  :D

Much better deals  ;) and that's before I get to these 7 new PMs :P

Guys I'm after, at least one of them needs a high ceiling is all
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on August 02, 2016, 03:30:07 PM
calling it now, Fyfe stays at Berlin.

Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on August 02, 2016, 03:31:26 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 02, 2016, 03:26:06 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 02, 2016, 01:58:08 PM

If there is a better deal on the table, then no problems - but to say Duncan and Hill "isn't even close"  :o

All good, I know it's all in jest  :D

Much better deals  ;) and that's before I get to these 7 new PMs :P

Guys I'm after, at least one of them needs a high ceiling is all
Someone with a high average like Ed Curnow :P
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 02, 2016, 03:50:03 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 02, 2016, 03:30:07 PM
calling it now, Fyfe stays at Berlin.

Made that call yesterday

Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on August 02, 2016, 03:50:10 PM
Quote from: iZander on August 02, 2016, 03:31:26 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 02, 2016, 03:26:06 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 02, 2016, 01:58:08 PM

If there is a better deal on the table, then no problems - but to say Duncan and Hill "isn't even close"  :o

All good, I know it's all in jest  :D

Much better deals  ;) and that's before I get to these 7 new PMs :P

Guys I'm after, at least one of them needs a high ceiling is all
Someone with a high average like Ed Curnow :P

Exactly, with the consistency of a Zac Dawson
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on August 02, 2016, 07:27:05 PM
NDT now taking the best pick offer for SUPERSTAR SIMON WHITE

With a high of 113 this season, and some healthy scores of 86, 80, 79, 78 and 78, this gun could be your ultimate FWD/DEF swingman.

White also managed a respectable 84ave over the last month

Get in quick!
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 02, 2016, 07:30:01 PM
5th round pick
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: My Chumps on August 02, 2016, 07:34:56 PM
Time to come clean; throw in your offers for the fifth best player in the competition, Josh Kennedy. I don't want to get rid of him, but I'm curious.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on August 02, 2016, 07:36:26 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 02, 2016, 07:30:01 PM
5th round pick
Currently will have to beat a late 3rd rounder ;)
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on August 02, 2016, 08:34:42 PM
Tom Hickey has attracted alot of interest, if your interested send us a pm

Note: basically Vinny will get the final say but i cant get hold of him atm :)

iZander
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: DazBurg on August 02, 2016, 08:36:29 PM
it is getting to that time of year where

http://ffchat.wix.com/chat

can come in handy
(it has been quite dead these days myelf included not going on as busy lately)

but pm's are one thing but i personally love also using the chat can say and discuss a lot more in a short space of time rather then pm'ing over a couple of days

though i still use pm  and will reply and sent some ofc just saying
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 02, 2016, 09:15:48 PM
Seems like a few teams are in need of a starting defender

We've had several discussions already with clubs about Houli and TMac

We are in a position to possibly let one of them go (Most likely Houli) but we're looking for a starting mid or fwd in return, so hit me up if you're interested, because I reckon he won't be available for too long!
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: My Chumps on August 02, 2016, 09:20:11 PM
Bit of a more detailed analysis of our trade list to facilitate discussions: these are the guys we're receptive to offers for - of course a lot of the blokes listed are still very valuable, and everybody would have to be paid their worth - and the guys not listed are still somewhat moveable.

Def: J Geary, C O’Shea, B Smedts, W Schofield, N Drummond, L Plowman, M Dea

Mid: JP Kennedy, D Tyson, B Acres, N Graham, J Toumpas, G Horlin-Smith, S Colquhoun, B Grey

Ruck: T Nankervis, L Pierce

Fwd: T Hawkins, S Crameri, D Lang, S Reid, C Bird, T Broomhead, M Honeychurch, G Rohan, T Garner, J Freeman

Rookie List: C Hewett (Port), S Murray (Syd), B Lynch (WB), J Smith (Melb), P Lucey (Geel)
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: My Chumps on August 02, 2016, 10:25:47 PM
Imagine how MAD you'd all be if JPK ended up at Dublin! God! Can't think of a worse scenario! Better get those offers in or boy-oh-boy,
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on August 02, 2016, 10:46:14 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on August 02, 2016, 10:25:47 PM
Imagine how MAD you'd all be if JPK ended up at Dublin! God! Can't think of a worse scenario! Better get those offers in or boy-oh-boy,

Pretty sure "bad for the competition" is a reason to block trades.

Do it so Holzman can sook then ragequit.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on August 02, 2016, 11:08:25 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 02, 2016, 10:46:14 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on August 02, 2016, 10:25:47 PM
Imagine how MAD you'd all be if JPK ended up at Dublin! God! Can't think of a worse scenario! Better get those offers in or boy-oh-boy,

Pretty sure "bad for the competition" is a reason to block trades.

Do it so Holzman can sook then ragequit.

Me sook?

1 Word.

Watson

Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on August 02, 2016, 11:16:05 PM
Missin out on FF trade chat coaches, just spent the last hour and a bit glued to keyboard in a hectic trade room

#tradeseasonhasstarted

#theresfinalson?
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: ossie85 on August 03, 2016, 09:16:49 AM

I know people tend to get impatient to start trading...

So I wonder Purps if it is a good time to start of any proposed rule changes while the finals are on? That way, if new rules are approved before the Grand Final, trading could start right away?

Trading really shouldn't happen until the rules for next year are finalised IMO
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on August 03, 2016, 09:29:12 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 03, 2016, 09:16:49 AM

I know people tend to get impatient to start trading...

So I wonder Purps if it is a good time to start of any proposed rule changes while the finals are on? That way, if new rules are approved before the Grand Final, trading could start right away?

Trading really shouldn't happen until the rules for next year are finalised IMO

Yup, agreed. Was gonna start that thread sometime this week
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 03, 2016, 09:44:53 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 03, 2016, 09:16:49 AM

I know people tend to get impatient to start trading...

So I wonder Purps if it is a good time to start of any proposed rule changes while the finals are on? That way, if new rules are approved before the Grand Final, trading could start right away?

Trading really shouldn't happen until the rules for next year are finalised IMO

Just like the AFL trade talks happen while the season is going on :)

And as for JPK going to Dublin - I am aware of the proposed trade and I can make a case for either side, but I think Holz is crazy giving up as much as he would be
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on August 03, 2016, 10:24:32 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 03, 2016, 09:44:53 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 03, 2016, 09:16:49 AM

I know people tend to get impatient to start trading...

So I wonder Purps if it is a good time to start of any proposed rule changes while the finals are on? That way, if new rules are approved before the Grand Final, trading could start right away?

Trading really shouldn't happen until the rules for next year are finalised IMO

Just like the AFL trade talks happen while the season is going on :)

And as for JPK going to Dublin - I am aware of the proposed trade and I can make a case for either side, but I think Holz is crazy giving up as much as he would be

(https://cdn.meme.am/instances/400x/66670858.jpg)
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on August 03, 2016, 10:56:44 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 03, 2016, 09:44:53 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 03, 2016, 09:16:49 AM

I know people tend to get impatient to start trading...

So I wonder Purps if it is a good time to start of any proposed rule changes while the finals are on? That way, if new rules are approved before the Grand Final, trading could start right away?

Trading really shouldn't happen until the rules for next year are finalised IMO

Just like the AFL trade talks happen while the season is going on :)

And as for JPK going to Dublin - I am aware of the proposed trade and I can make a case for either side, but I think Holz is crazy giving up as much as he would be
I feel like you underestimate super premos like Fyfe/JPK :P
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 03, 2016, 11:16:42 AM
I don't underestimate them at all. Maybe you over value them?

JPK is a 110-113 mid, so I will value him at that, and Fyfe is a 125 mid so I will value him at that, and then use the same valuations for the other players involved in the discussion, as well as factoring in age etc

JPK has 3, maybe 4 gun years left

Weits is a 10+ year defender who could easily be averaging 90+ within the next 2-3 years, while Kennedy is last years Pick 6 and then there is this years Pick 17 too. Seems like a lot for JPK, but like I said I understand how both teams like it because JPK ensures Dublin remains the powerhouse for the following years, while those youngsters are exactly the path Cape Town are going down
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on August 03, 2016, 01:06:56 PM
I'll trade Sandi, Gibbs, Boyd, McVeigh, Mitchell, Watson and Hartlett to Mexico City if Holz gets JPK. Papley could easily average 90 in 2-3 years, then there's that other guy who'll be stuck in the reserves and the highly speculative pick too.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on August 03, 2016, 01:11:08 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 03, 2016, 01:06:56 PM
I'll trade Sandi, Gibbs, Boyd, McVeigh, Mitchell, Watson and Hartlett to Mexico City if Holz gets JPK. Papley could easily average 90 in 2-3 years, then there's that other guy who'll be stuck in the reserves and the highly speculative pick too.

That kind of looks like either Blackmail or Collusion.

Ban Meow.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on August 03, 2016, 01:16:12 PM
Probably shouldn't be talking about a potential trade before it goes up, as it can skew what would have been peoples' original opinion.

Plus trade period is 4 weeks away; plenty of time for ANY offers to be topped, or minds to be changed.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on August 03, 2016, 01:22:36 PM
Chumps is just pulling your chain anyway. He's just fishing for a better offer. He's not evil.

It's not a secret that Christchurch is just a front that actually exists to make Mexico City stronger.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on August 03, 2016, 01:26:56 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 03, 2016, 01:22:36 PM
Chumps is just pulling your chain anyway. He's just fishing for a better offer. He's not evil.

It's not a secret that Christchurch is just a front that actually exists to make Mexico City stronger.

you joke but it kinda looks that way :P

Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on August 03, 2016, 02:34:14 PM
Anyone got an 80ish + 70ish mid that they'd like to swap for 90ish average Koby Stevens and a 2nd round pick (similar age please)? Or an 80ish + mid-late first round pick for Koby alone? Need more depth and I'm willing to sacrifice 10ppg from my best XV unlike pretty much everyone else.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on August 03, 2016, 02:47:15 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 03, 2016, 02:34:14 PM
Anyone got an 80ish + 70ish mid that they'd like to swap for 90ish average Koby Stevens and a 2nd round pick (similar age please)? Or an 80ish + mid-late first round pick for Koby alone? Need more depth and I'm willing to sacrifice 10ppg from my best XV unlike pretty much everyone else.

2015 Lewis Jetta?

Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 03, 2016, 02:52:20 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 03, 2016, 02:34:14 PM
Anyone got an 80ish + 70ish mid that they'd like to swap for 90ish average Koby Stevens and a 2nd round pick (similar age please)? Or an 80ish + mid-late first round pick for Koby alone? Need more depth and I'm willing to sacrifice 10ppg from my best XV unlike pretty much everyone else.

LOL
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: upthemaidens on August 03, 2016, 03:06:38 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 03, 2016, 02:34:14 PM
Anyone got an 80ish + 70ish mid that they'd like to swap for 90ish average Koby Stevens and a 2nd round pick (similar age please)? Or an 80ish + mid-late first round pick for Koby alone? Need more depth and I'm willing to sacrifice 10ppg from my best XV unlike pretty much everyone else.
So a 78avg Mid + 68avg Mid  =  koby+#30   or  78avg Mid + #12 = Koby    ..Is that what you are saying?

If so, then you're suggesting that a  68avg Mid =  #12+#30
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on August 03, 2016, 03:09:01 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 03, 2016, 03:06:38 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 03, 2016, 02:34:14 PM
Anyone got an 80ish + 70ish mid that they'd like to swap for 90ish average Koby Stevens and a 2nd round pick (similar age please)? Or an 80ish + mid-late first round pick for Koby alone? Need more depth and I'm willing to sacrifice 10ppg from my best XV unlike pretty much everyone else.
So a 78avg Mid + 68avg Mid  =  koby+#30   or  78avg Mid + #12 = Koby    ..Is that what you are saying?

If so, then you're suggesting that a  68avg Mid =  #12+#30

isnt it a 70 mid + 30 = 12
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: upthemaidens on August 03, 2016, 03:16:49 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 03, 2016, 03:09:01 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 03, 2016, 03:06:38 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 03, 2016, 02:34:14 PM
Anyone got an 80ish + 70ish mid that they'd like to swap for 90ish average Koby Stevens and a 2nd round pick (similar age please)? Or an 80ish + mid-late first round pick for Koby alone? Need more depth and I'm willing to sacrifice 10ppg from my best XV unlike pretty much everyone else.
So a 78avg Mid + 68avg Mid  =  koby+#30   or  78avg Mid + #12 = Koby    ..Is that what you are saying?

If so, then you're suggesting that a  68avg Mid =  #12+#30

isnt it a 70 mid + 30 = 12
That's not the way it looks though.  To get Koby on his own, Meow wants #12 added to 78 Mid. 
   But if we replace #12 with a 68 Mid,  Meow will then add a #30 to Koby.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on August 03, 2016, 03:27:59 PM
Most people seem to think a 10 point improvement is worth a first round pick (Treloar over Libba last year comes to mind)

Stevens for IOmith + 12

or
Stevens + 28 for IOmith + Dumont
Dumont is worth more than pick 28, Stevens worth more than Smith.

I don't see the problem?
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: upthemaidens on August 03, 2016, 03:46:18 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 03, 2016, 03:27:59 PM
Most people seem to think a 10 point improvement is worth a first round pick (Treloar over Libba last year comes to mind)

Stevens for IOmith + 12

or
Stevens + 28 for IOmith + Dumont
Dumont is worth more than pick 28, Stevens worth more than Smith.

I don't see the problem?
In this scenario, you are saying that Dumont is worth more than #12.  In fact he's worth so much more than #12,  that you are willing to add #28 to your side of the deal.
  I may be simple, but that looks like Dumont is worth #12+#28.   Which isn't a problem as such, just an interesting observation. :)
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 03, 2016, 03:49:49 PM
Stevens ain't a 90ish mid either

2 seasons of 85ish, and avg about 12 games a season lol

Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Jroo on August 03, 2016, 03:55:53 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 03, 2016, 01:06:56 PM
I'll trade Sandi, Gibbs, Boyd, McVeigh, Mitchell, Watson and Hartlett to Mexico City if Holz gets JPK. Papley could easily average 90 in 2-3 years, then there's that other guy who'll be stuck in the reserves and the highly speculative pick too.
Yeah i'd be happy with that  :P

Sorry to those who have messaged me about trades, I've been busy but will get stuck into trade talks tomorrow!
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: elephants on August 03, 2016, 04:09:03 PM
Ahhh its that time of year again where any player mentioned in a trade discussion thread is torn to pieces and brutally devalued.

I live for this :p
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 03, 2016, 05:55:04 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 03, 2016, 04:09:03 PM
Ahhh its that time of year again where any player mentioned in a trade discussion thread is torn to pieces and brutally devalued.

I live for this :p

Haha, how good is it!  ;D
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on August 03, 2016, 06:16:02 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 03, 2016, 03:46:18 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 03, 2016, 03:27:59 PM
Most people seem to think a 10 point improvement is worth a first round pick (Treloar over Libba last year comes to mind)

Stevens for IOmith + 12

or
Stevens + 28 for IOmith + Dumont
Dumont is worth more than pick 28, Stevens worth more than Smith.

I don't see the problem?
In this scenario, you are saying that Dumont is worth more than #12.  In fact he's worth so much more than #12,  that you are willing to add #28 to your side of the deal.
  I may be simple, but that looks like Dumont is worth #12+#28.   Which isn't a problem as such, just an interesting observation. :)

What you're saying makes sense.

I'm no good at this trading thing. At least it shows I'm flexible when trying to negotiate a trade.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on August 03, 2016, 06:20:20 PM
And as a matter of fact I already have offered all my picks for a young player who averages less than 70 so far during negotiations so maybe I am loco.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Jroo on August 04, 2016, 12:39:31 PM
Here are a list of guys that I would be open to offers to atm: Matthew Broadbent, Brad Ebert, Eddie Betts, Harley Bennell, Daniel Wells, Sam Gray, James Sicily, Adam Cooney, Mark Baguely, James Gwilt, Jeremy Laidler, Dylan Buckley, Jonathan Marsh, Cameron Ellis-Yolmen, George Hewett, Ryan Davis, James Rose, Tom Papley

Also a couple of coaches have asked about Rocky. Obviously not looking to trade him, but would be silly not to at least listen to offers. If he were to be moved I'd need a GUN mid back in return and then an upgrade on my team elsewhere (eg. Betts/Broadbent to a GUN fwd or defender, or something along those lines).
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 05, 2016, 12:08:10 AM
Already have a trade locked in  :-X  ;D

This might surprise most, but I don't expect us to be doing a stack of trades this year. We turned over the list dramatically over the first 2 years in charge, so now it's just a matter of making a few slight tweaks and improvements

Moscow might do more trades than us this year! :P
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: JBs-Hawks on August 05, 2016, 12:11:14 AM
Two locked in  :o
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 05, 2016, 12:15:03 AM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 05, 2016, 12:11:14 AM
Two locked in  :o

Wow, haha

Can't wait to see how many trades get submitted on Day 1 of the Trade Period!
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on August 05, 2016, 02:59:36 AM
7* locked in  8)

New homes for Boyd, Reid, Hartlett, Koby, Picks 9 + 28, Trengove and Clay Smith.





















*blatant lie
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: MajorLazer on August 05, 2016, 03:08:17 AM
I've already locked in 3, if not 4 trades.

Not in worlds with you chaps though. Just thought you'd like to know.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: DazBurg on August 05, 2016, 08:29:05 AM
Quote from: MajorLazer on August 05, 2016, 03:08:17 AM
I've already locked in 3, if not 4 trades.

Not in worlds with you chaps though. Just thought you'd like to know.
LOL
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 05, 2016, 06:22:29 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 05, 2016, 12:11:14 AM
Two locked in  :o
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on August 05, 2016, 06:26:59 PM
Nek Minnit the rules get changed and undo everyone's work.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 06, 2016, 08:28:12 AM
Quote from: meow meow on August 05, 2016, 06:26:59 PM
Nek Minnit the rules get changed and undo everyone's work.

:'(
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
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Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on August 06, 2016, 11:47:29 AM
Hahaha RD, good
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on August 06, 2016, 12:23:14 PM
Small part of me wants to get all 12 smiths in the AFL, so I could name my WXV team as:

D: Smith, Smith, Smith, Smith
M: Smith, Smith, Horlin-Smith, Nat Fyfe
R: Smith
F: Smith, Smith, Smith, Smith
U: Smith, Naismith

Would be so worth it
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Nige on August 06, 2016, 12:34:26 PM
Just give us Jack Steven and Nick Smith is yours!
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on August 06, 2016, 12:38:32 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 06, 2016, 12:23:14 PM
Would be so worth it

Quote from: Nige on August 06, 2016, 12:34:26 PM
Just give us Jack Steven and Nick Smith is yours!

Turns out, it wouldn't be! :P
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Nige on August 06, 2016, 12:44:28 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 06, 2016, 12:38:32 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 06, 2016, 12:23:14 PM
Would be so worth it

Quote from: Nige on August 06, 2016, 12:34:26 PM
Just give us Jack Steven and Nick Smith is yours!

Turns out, it wouldn't be! :P
Big Maxwell Gawn then?!
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: DazBurg on August 06, 2016, 12:49:06 PM
kind of wondering what interest there is in regards to a few players here

(not saying they would be traded but it is possible)

Zac Williams

Priddis (would ofc take a good deal)

Rioli (same as priddis)

jones (most know we have thought about this)

now most of you know it is unlikely for ti to happen so up to you if you want to try

with the names above it is more is it worth keeping or is there decent offers out there (like purps tested with fyfe)
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on August 06, 2016, 01:38:34 PM
Had a bit of interest in
Ed Curnow
Marcus Adams
Josh Wagner

If you are interested give us a message :P
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: My Chumps on August 06, 2016, 03:09:27 PM
Dom Tyson's almost a certainty to leave if you want to make an offer! (probably won't be on till tomorrow evening though word of warning)
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: ossie85 on August 06, 2016, 03:15:24 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 06, 2016, 11:47:29 AM
Hahaha RD, good
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: AaronKirk on August 07, 2016, 12:50:22 AM
We are on the lookout for a 80+ averaging forward to join New York.

If you have any available and are in the lookout for defenders, depth mids or draft picks send me and RD a PM.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 09, 2016, 11:11:23 AM
Thought I would just provide an update for New York

Already Traded (So don't bother asking)
Bachar Houli, Nakia Cockatoo, Brayden Fiorini, Kayne Turner, Harley Balic and Nathan Hrovat

Unlikely (Happy to listen to offers but would take something huge to move)
Kurt Tippett, Isaac Heeney, Jade Gresham, Daniel Menzel, Stephen Hill, Mitch Duncan, Tom McDonald, Josh J Kennedy, David Mundy, Shannon Hurn, Jordan Lewis

Everyone Else (All of different value)
Shaun Grigg, Liam Picken, Josh Gibson, Reece Conca, James Harmes, Scott D Thompson, Ben Sinclair, Cameron Shenton, Mitch W Brown, Teia Miles, Mitch White, Matt Rosa, Alex Sexton, Adam Marcon, Tom Bellchambers, Jonathan Griffin, Jarrad Waite, Nathan Vardy, Jesse White, James Stewart, Jack Redpath, Jack Fitzpatrick, Dan Houston, Kurt Heatherly, Harrison Marsh, Todd Elton, Jackson Paine

Forwards are our number 1 priority, so if you have 80+ ones - let us know
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: ossie85 on August 09, 2016, 11:20:45 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 09, 2016, 11:11:23 AM
Thought I would just provide an update for New York

Already Traded (So don't bother asking)
Bachar Houli, Nakia Cockatoo, Brayden Fiorini, Kayne Turner, Harley Balic and Nathan Hrovat

Unlikely (Happy to listen to offers but would take something huge to move)
Kurt Tippett, Isaac Heeney, Jade Gresham, Daniel Menzel, Stephen Hill, Mitch Duncan, Tom McDonald, Josh J Kennedy, David Mundy, Shannon Hurn, Jordan Lewis

Everyone Else (All of different value)
Shaun Grigg, Liam Picken, Josh Gibson, Reece Conca, James Harmes, Scott D Thompson, Ben Sinclair, Cameron Shenton, Mitch W Brown, Teia Miles, Mitch White, Matt Rosa, Alex Sexton, Adam Marcon, Tom Bellchambers, Jonathan Griffin, Jarrad Waite, Nathan Vardy, Jesse White, James Stewart, Jack Redpath, Jack Fitzpatrick, Dan Houston, Kurt Heatherly, Harrison Marsh, Todd Elton, Jackson Paine

Forwards are our number 1 priority, so if you have 80+ ones - let us know

Pretty harsh trading players now! Not worried it will impact finals prep? Got a semi to prepare for!
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on August 09, 2016, 11:23:48 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 09, 2016, 11:20:45 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 09, 2016, 11:11:23 AM
Thought I would just provide an update for New York

Already Traded (So don't bother asking)
Bachar Houli, Nakia Cockatoo, Brayden Fiorini, Kayne Turner, Harley Balic and Nathan Hrovat

Unlikely (Happy to listen to offers but would take something huge to move)
Kurt Tippett, Isaac Heeney, Jade Gresham, Daniel Menzel, Stephen Hill, Mitch Duncan, Tom McDonald, Josh J Kennedy, David Mundy, Shannon Hurn, Jordan Lewis

Everyone Else (All of different value)
Shaun Grigg, Liam Picken, Josh Gibson, Reece Conca, James Harmes, Scott D Thompson, Ben Sinclair, Cameron Shenton, Mitch W Brown, Teia Miles, Mitch White, Matt Rosa, Alex Sexton, Adam Marcon, Tom Bellchambers, Jonathan Griffin, Jarrad Waite, Nathan Vardy, Jesse White, James Stewart, Jack Redpath, Jack Fitzpatrick, Dan Houston, Kurt Heatherly, Harrison Marsh, Todd Elton, Jackson Paine

Forwards are our number 1 priority, so if you have 80+ ones - let us know

Pretty harsh trading players now! Not worried it will impact finals prep? Got a semi to prepare for!

I wonder what Houli is thinking.

he should throw up a stinker.

I was the harshest on Sam Collins though. He put in a bad one to almost cost me the game so he is perma dropped from Dublin and was immediately traded from the squad.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 09, 2016, 12:27:20 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 09, 2016, 11:20:45 AM
Pretty harsh trading players now! Not worried it will impact finals prep? Got a semi to prepare for!

Welcome to AFL 2016. Gotta start preparing for the future. No impact on the lads as it's all been mutual and their commitment to NY for 2016 cannot be questioned :)

Quote from: Holz on August 09, 2016, 11:23:48 AM
I wonder what Houli is thinking.

he should throw up a stinker.

Houli is very happy now after the faith we showed in him whilst he was injured. He knows that he needs to perform on the big stage to get the $ next year  ;D
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 09, 2016, 02:24:50 PM
Pick 01 - Cairo
Pick 02 - Toronto
Pick 03 - Tokyo
Pick 04 - Moscow
Pick 05 - London
Pick 06 - Cape Town
Pick 07 - Berlin
Pick 08 - Christchurch
Pick 09 - Beijing
Pick 10 - Seoul
Pick 11 - Buenos Aires
Pick 12 - Pacific
Pick 13 - New York
Pick 14 - New Dehli
Pick 15 - PNL
Pick 16 - Rio
Pick 17 - Mexico
Pick 18 - Dublin

So we would have

Round 01 - 13
Round 02 - 31
Round 03 - 49
Round 04 - 67
Round 05 - 85

Is that all correct? Or are Cairo getting Pick 1&2, which would then bump all picks there after down the order by one?
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 09, 2016, 02:30:04 PM
Just had a read, and it looks like Cairo get 1 & 2, and Toronto get a priority pick after the first round

Pick 01 - Cairo
Pick 02 - Cairo
Pick 03 - Toronto
Pick 04 - Tokyo
Pick 05 - Moscow
Pick 06 - London
Pick 07 - Cape Town
Pick 08 - Berlin
Pick 09 - Christchurch
Pick 10 - Beijing
Pick 11 - Seoul
Pick 12 - Buenos Aires
Pick 13 - Pacific
Pick 14 - New York
Pick 15 - New Dehli
Pick 16 - PNL
Pick 17 - Rio
Pick 18 - Mexico
Pick 19 - Dublin
Pick 20 - Toronto

So we would have

Round 01 - 14
Round 02 - 32
Round 03 - 50
Round 04 - 68
Round 05 - 86

I think that's correct?
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on August 09, 2016, 03:09:56 PM
14, 33, 51, 69, 87

Depending on the outcome of finals.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 09, 2016, 03:49:23 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 09, 2016, 03:09:56 PM
14, 33, 51, 69, 87

Depending on the outcome of finals.

Oh, so it's based on ladder after finals? Wasn't sure if that was the case, but assumed it would have been based on ladder after home and away
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on August 09, 2016, 03:50:48 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 09, 2016, 03:49:23 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 09, 2016, 03:09:56 PM
14, 33, 51, 69, 87

Depending on the outcome of finals.

Oh, so it's based on ladder after finals? Wasn't sure if that was the case, but assumed it would have been based on ladder after home and away

Yep, after finals. Same as the AFL.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on August 09, 2016, 04:18:57 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 09, 2016, 03:50:48 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 09, 2016, 03:49:23 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 09, 2016, 03:09:56 PM
14, 33, 51, 69, 87

Depending on the outcome of finals.

Oh, so it's based on ladder after finals? Wasn't sure if that was the case, but assumed it would have been based on ladder after home and away

Yep, after finals. Same as the AFL.

Yep. Cairo Pick 1 & 2, Toronto also get another pick at the end of the first round
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 09, 2016, 04:48:05 PM
Thanks guys :)
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Jroo on August 09, 2016, 07:03:45 PM
For teams out there looking to be more competitive next year, I have quite a few short-term solutions.

Heath Shaw, Kade Simpson, Jimmy Bartel, Brendon Goddard, Brent Stanton, Brett Deledio, Nick Riewoldt, Brent Harvey, Eddie Betts, Daniel Wells, Adam Cooney

I would be open to the idea of trading some, to get some younger starters/good youth into my team.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on August 09, 2016, 07:17:27 PM
11th this year is simply not good enough so I don't mind if I do get more competitive.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on August 09, 2016, 07:37:28 PM
And if none of JROO's guys are particularly appealing, keep in mind that I'm willing to trade Gibbs for Goddard + a decent pick or young talent who hasn't taken off yet. So if you can lure BJ away it might be in your best interests, even if you've got no use for old guys.

Stringer for NRoo + a good pick anyone?

Hartlett would look good in a new jumper, my 31 year old former Moscow gun in the backline belongs with me.

Ben Reid is a solid 80 average player with lots of footy left.

I've said it plenty of times, I am very very willing to trade my guys who are 21-28 (except WHE and probably Breust)

3-way deals anyone?
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on August 09, 2016, 08:36:44 PM
Does anyone want to pay massive overs for Harris Andrews like they seem to be willing to do for Weits? I mean, HA averaged 90.7 across a patch of 6 matches (better than Weits has done) in his debut season. Nevermind that he was only just okay in most other games and finished with a mid 60's average (just like Weits), he's worth trading a premium for if Weitering is. I don't care if he wasn't pick 1, neither was Rory Sloane or Sam Mitchell or Dane Swan or Luke Parker...
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Toga on August 09, 2016, 09:05:11 PM
Neale - could be traded for a 100+ mid and an upgrade elsewhere (probably defense).
Christensen/Jenkins - could be traded for a mid worthy of a spot on the IC or a starting defender.
Picks + others - could be traded.. Why not enquire ;)
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 10, 2016, 04:09:29 PM
Motion to change the the Starting 15 line up to

DEF: 1, 2, 3, 4
MID: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
RUC: 1
FWD: 1, 2, 3
I:, 1, 2

It ain't easy getting half decent forwards!
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on August 10, 2016, 04:12:31 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 10, 2016, 04:09:29 PM
Motion to change the the Starting 15 line up to

DEF: 1, 2, 3, 4
MID: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
RUC: 1
FWD: 1, 2, 3
I:, 1, 2

It ain't easy getting half decent forwards!

there is 99 70+ fwds and only 18 teams so not too hard.

in saying that i need fwds too :P
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: ossie85 on August 10, 2016, 04:16:52 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 10, 2016, 04:09:29 PM
Motion to change the the Starting 15 line up to

DEF: 1, 2, 3, 4
MID: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
RUC: 1
FWD: 1, 2, 3
I:, 1, 2

It ain't easy getting half decent forwards!

^ I think that's the way to go also, people almost always name a midfielder on the Interchange anyway.

My only suggestion is that people get to choose whether they select a 4th defender or a 4th forward
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on August 10, 2016, 04:18:59 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 10, 2016, 04:16:52 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 10, 2016, 04:09:29 PM
Motion to change the the Starting 15 line up to

DEF: 1, 2, 3, 4
MID: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
RUC: 1
FWD: 1, 2, 3
I:, 1, 2

It ain't easy getting half decent forwards!

^ I think that's the way to go also, people almost always name a midfielder on the Interchange anyway.

My only suggestion is that people get to choose whether they select a 4th defender or a 4th forward

its true for some teams. But loads of teams are sturggling for mids.

I know i barely had 4 playing some weeks and then had 2 defenders on the utiiltiy bench,
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: JBs-Hawks on August 10, 2016, 04:25:17 PM
Dont have enough fwds or defs then trade more in!
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 10, 2016, 04:30:55 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 10, 2016, 04:25:17 PM
Dont have enough fwds or defs then trade more in!

Easier said than done!

Every team I speak with is also looking for forwards

I was obviously just joking when I posted it, but it is tough to get 4 good forwards
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on August 10, 2016, 04:35:08 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 10, 2016, 04:30:55 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 10, 2016, 04:25:17 PM
Dont have enough fwds or defs then trade more in!

Easier said than done!

Every team I speak with is also looking for forwards

I was obviously just joking when I posted it, but it is tough to get 4 good forwards


beijing is selling fwds.

Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: DazBurg on August 10, 2016, 06:10:08 PM
nope don't like it
at PNL we have fwds but struggle for quality mids
so do we then get to change it?

we have fwds we rate them highly but pay up and we may give some up
(will point out thought ppl only ask mostly for wingard or billings but mostly wingard
so ppl want starting fwds but wish to trade depth for them ::) )
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on August 10, 2016, 06:40:47 PM
how about we change it to

3
3
1
3
2

Rance Birchall Yarran
Dmart Treloar Sloane Selwood
Goldy
Jroo Gunston Buddy
Murphy JPK

very nice.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on August 10, 2016, 06:52:03 PM
I think that's exactly why we wouldn't decrease team sizes Holz :P
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 10, 2016, 06:55:12 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on August 10, 2016, 06:10:08 PM
nope don't like it
at PNL we have fwds but struggle for quality mids
so do we then get to change it?

we have fwds we rate them highly but pay up and we may give some up
(will point out thought ppl only ask mostly for wingard or billings but mostly wingard
so ppl want starting fwds but wish to trade depth for them ::) )

Relax Daz, deep breathes

Was only joking

And you'll have to trade some of your forwards eventually when your old fart midfield retires :P
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on August 10, 2016, 08:31:13 PM
Forwards? If you're not total tight asses I'm willing to include these guys in deals, all have F4 or better potential

Dickson - averaged 77 last year injury affected this year, two other seasons of 69+, lock 22. Priced at 70
Lester (should gain fwd status) - has averaged 69, 78, 68 before, decent JS. Priced at 65
Garlett - has averaged 78, 72, 73, 73, solid JS. Priced at 65-70
Cox - 60 average, can provide ruck cover, still improving, lock 22 player now. Priced at 65 ruck (75 mid)
Anderson - has talent and a likely best 22 player. Price: 1st round draft pick (who else will you pick who is better instead?)
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on August 10, 2016, 08:33:58 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 10, 2016, 06:40:47 PM
how about we change it to

3
3
1
3
2

Rance Birchall Yarran
Dmart Treloar Sloane Selwood
Goldy
Jroo Gunston Buddy
Murphy JPK

very nice.

:-X
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 10, 2016, 08:43:04 PM
DEF: 1, 2, 3
MID: 1, 2, 3, 4
RUC: 1
FWD: 1, 2, 3
I:, 1, 2, 3, 4

is way better
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on August 10, 2016, 08:46:57 PM
How about...

D: 1
M: 11
R: 1
F: 1
I: 1

?

Leave it as it is.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on August 10, 2016, 08:48:24 PM
how about

M1

Atleast we'd have a shot with pendles :P And hope danger has a bad one ;)
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: JBs-Hawks on August 10, 2016, 08:50:52 PM
Quote from: iZander on August 10, 2016, 08:48:24 PM
how about

M1

Atleast we'd have a shot with pendles :P And hope danger has a bad one ;)

Sounds good to me!
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: upthemaidens on August 10, 2016, 08:51:42 PM
Alex Fasolo is available, 24yo forward with good job security.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on August 10, 2016, 09:07:52 PM
Cloke 5.0 is NOT available
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on August 10, 2016, 09:52:12 PM
2013 is a while ago now, but Garlett did average 100.5 across the first 10 rounds (didn't do a Butcher, he played all 10) of that season. Just sayin





Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on August 10, 2016, 09:56:07 PM
John Butcher did average 132 this year from round 1 -19 if you disregard round 18!!! Lets not forget that, will take a first rounder

Heaps of forwards on the market if you look in the right place
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: JBs-Hawks on August 10, 2016, 10:00:11 PM
Ben McGlynn, come and get him!
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: DazBurg on August 10, 2016, 10:23:47 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 10, 2016, 06:55:12 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on August 10, 2016, 06:10:08 PM
nope don't like it
at PNL we have fwds but struggle for quality mids
so do we then get to change it?

we have fwds we rate them highly but pay up and we may give some up
(will point out thought ppl only ask mostly for wingard or billings but mostly wingard
so ppl want starting fwds but wish to trade depth for them ::) )

Relax Daz, deep breathes

Was only joking

And you'll have to trade some of your forwards eventually when your old fart midfield retires :P
I know you were but it gained traction with Ossman lol

Hey as I said offer away
Btw old fart midfield?
We played most of season without hodge & swan so only Prussia the worry
Sine we have Shiel + zerrett jones also has a few seasons left yet :P
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 10, 2016, 11:11:01 PM
Wasn't going to do this, but I think due to so many teams inquiring we at least need to start fielding offers

Jesse White is now on the market
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on August 11, 2016, 10:12:24 AM
I still don't really know who I want  :-[ can't I just be a premiership team next year?

Give me your decent old players I suppose. And give them to me for chips.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on August 11, 2016, 10:29:46 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 11, 2016, 10:12:24 AM
I still don't really know who I want  :-[ can't I just be a premiership team next year?

Give me your decent old players I suppose. And give them to me for chips.

Nathan "Chips" Fyfe?

if i get him i will call him chips in every post.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on August 11, 2016, 10:35:20 AM
Overrated, injury prone butcher who'll struggle when 211 isn't there to hand feed him.

Gibbs > Fyfe
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on August 11, 2016, 11:29:20 AM
Quote from: Holz on August 11, 2016, 10:29:46 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 11, 2016, 10:12:24 AM
I still don't really know who I want  :-[ can't I just be a premiership team next year?

Give me your decent old players I suppose. And give them to me for chips.

Nathan "Chips" Fyfe?

if i get him i will call him chips in every post.

He shall remain to be called "Foife" whenever he is killing it  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on August 11, 2016, 11:36:21 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 11, 2016, 11:29:20 AM
Quote from: Holz on August 11, 2016, 10:29:46 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 11, 2016, 10:12:24 AM
I still don't really know who I want  :-[ can't I just be a premiership team next year?

Give me your decent old players I suppose. And give them to me for chips.

Nathan "Chips" Fyfe?

if i get him i will call him chips in every post.

He shall remain to be called "Foife" whenever he is killing it  ;)

so can we call it chips when he is missing through injury :P

which is amazingly 41 of the last 110 home and away games. which is 37% of the time.

Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on August 11, 2016, 11:41:43 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 11, 2016, 10:12:24 AM
I still don't really know who I want  :-[ can't I just be a premiership team next year?
Yeh we're a bit torn as well.

Don't really want to trade any of the boys that have been huge us this year like Conigs, Ross, Scully, Wallis, etc but have had some ok offers that are worth considering
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 11, 2016, 11:46:10 AM
I hear you lads

Unfortunately, it's hard to secure a good player from another team without giving away a good player from your current team

I'm really happy with the trades we have secured so far. Reckon we could go with 1 more defender (to replace Gibson once he retires) and definitely a starting forward, but if we can't get them than I think we are still in pretty good shape for 2017
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Boomz on August 11, 2016, 11:46:37 AM
Johannisen, Dahl & Lycett are staying ;) Most others available at the right price.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on August 11, 2016, 03:32:56 PM
Is one premo year worth one premo year, or more?

Bontempeilli. Gun. 12 premo seasons left in him. Could Pacific trade him for 12 premos with one year left in them each? Would they have to pay more for the immediate benefit to their team? Is the immediate more important than the distant future in a game like this? Do they have to pay more since they get 12 starters for one year, even though it'll even itself out over the next 12 seasons? Should Montagna cost PNL more than he would cost Cairo, since PNL are in the premiership race?

I encourage all teams to answer, since all teams vote.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on August 11, 2016, 03:43:57 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 11, 2016, 03:32:56 PM
Is one premo year worth one premo year, or more?

Bontempeilli. Gun. 12 premo seasons left in him. Could Pacific trade him for 12 premos with one year left in them each? Would they have to pay more for the immediate benefit to their team? Is the immediate more important than the distant future in a game like this? Do they have to pay more since they get 12 starters for one year, even though it'll even itself out over the next 12 seasons? Should Montagna cost PNL more than he would cost Cairo, since PNL are in the premiership race?

I encourage all teams to answer, since all teams vote.

of course he isnt worth 12 guys with 1 year left.

lots of reasons.

1. these guys with 1 year left could have 2-3. Harvey has had 1 year left for 8 years.
2. diversification, bont could have a terrible injury, walk away from the game who knows. Bont might not have 12 years in him
3. we need to fill 15 spots and the 12 players can fill 12 of them, while bont can only field 1.


in part 2.

the whole basing a trade on the teams involved is a joke. Trades should be dealt on the merits of the players involved in the deal soley.

Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 11, 2016, 03:46:22 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 11, 2016, 03:32:56 PM
Is one premo year worth one premo year, or more?

Bontempeilli. Gun. 12 premo seasons left in him. Could Pacific trade him for 12 premos with one year left in them each? Would they have to pay more for the immediate benefit to their team? Is the immediate more important than the distant future in a game like this? Do they have to pay more since they get 12 starters for one year, even though it'll even itself out over the next 12 seasons? Should Montagna cost PNL more than he would cost Cairo, since PNL are in the premiership race?

I encourage all teams to answer, since all teams vote.

(http://imgur.com/NiSWOiH.jpg)
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on August 11, 2016, 03:47:56 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 11, 2016, 03:43:57 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 11, 2016, 03:32:56 PM
Is one premo year worth one premo year, or more?

Bontempeilli. Gun. 12 premo seasons left in him. Could Pacific trade him for 12 premos with one year left in them each? Would they have to pay more for the immediate benefit to their team? Is the immediate more important than the distant future in a game like this? Do they have to pay more since they get 12 starters for one year, even though it'll even itself out over the next 12 seasons? Should Montagna cost PNL more than he would cost Cairo, since PNL are in the premiership race?

I encourage all teams to answer, since all teams vote.

Trades should be dealt on the merits of the players involved in the deal soley.

^Already have to cap so any trade rejection on "comp evenness" is irrelevant imo

Immediate impact worth more then delayed impact
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 11, 2016, 04:02:00 PM
Sorry, but I don't consider the next the 12 years when doing a trade :P

There's every chance most of us won't even be here by then!

And

Quote from: Holz on August 11, 2016, 03:43:57 PM
the whole basing a trade on the teams involved is a joke. Trades should be dealt on the merits of the players involved in the deal soley.

The most sense I've ever heard from Holz :P
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on August 11, 2016, 04:06:55 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 11, 2016, 04:02:00 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 11, 2016, 03:43:57 PM
the whole basing a trade on the teams involved is a joke. Trades should be dealt on the merits of the players involved in the deal soley.

The most sense I've ever heard from Holz :P

why thank you, i say it every time when its brought up for a reason that a trade is rejected.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on August 11, 2016, 04:12:00 PM
Quote from: iZander on August 11, 2016, 03:47:56 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 11, 2016, 03:43:57 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 11, 2016, 03:32:56 PM
Is one premo year worth one premo year, or more?

Bontempeilli. Gun. 12 premo seasons left in him. Could Pacific trade him for 12 premos with one year left in them each? Would they have to pay more for the immediate benefit to their team? Is the immediate more important than the distant future in a game like this? Do they have to pay more since they get 12 starters for one year, even though it'll even itself out over the next 12 seasons? Should Montagna cost PNL more than he would cost Cairo, since PNL are in the premiership race?

I encourage all teams to answer, since all teams vote.

Trades should be dealt on the merits of the players involved in the deal soley.

^Already have to cap so any trade rejection on "comp evenness" is irrelevant imo

Immediate impact worth more then delayed impact

Deferred Consumption has a discount factor to it when compared against Immediate Consumption.

Economics 101
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on August 11, 2016, 04:23:33 PM
Alright, what kind of premium is put on next year vs future years? Are two 100 average players next season worth 3 years from one 100 average player?

M1: 100, 0, 0
M2: 100, 0, 0

vs

M1: 100, 100, 100
M2: 0, 0, 0
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ringo on August 11, 2016, 04:26:57 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 11, 2016, 04:12:00 PM
Quote from: iZander on August 11, 2016, 03:47:56 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 11, 2016, 03:43:57 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 11, 2016, 03:32:56 PM
Is one premo year worth one premo year, or more?

Bontempeilli. Gun. 12 premo seasons left in him. Could Pacific trade him for 12 premos with one year left in them each? Would they have to pay more for the immediate benefit to their team? Is the immediate more important than the distant future in a game like this? Do they have to pay more since they get 12 starters for one year, even though it'll even itself out over the next 12 seasons? Should Montagna cost PNL more than he would cost Cairo, since PNL are in the premiership race?

I encourage all teams to answer, since all teams vote.

Trades should be dealt on the merits of the players involved in the deal soley.

^Already have to cap so any trade rejection on "comp evenness" is irrelevant imo

Immediate impact worth more then delayed impact

Deferred Consumption has a discount factor to it when compared against Immediate Consumption.

Economics 101
With the cap do not think that fairness of comp should be a consideration.  Also time left for premo should be taken into consideration.  eg If Bonts was to be traded for say Dane Swan I would probably reject based on the Bonts potential to play 10 seasons compared to Swans 1. Know we can not factor in possible injuries but potential playing time left should be taken into consideration.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on August 11, 2016, 04:28:25 PM
If trades are to be dealt on the merits of players involved how is 12 100 average seasons not equal to 12 100 average seasons? Why is there a premium/discount factor?
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 11, 2016, 04:35:37 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 11, 2016, 04:28:25 PM
If trades are to be dealt on the merits of players involved how is 12 100 average seasons not equal to 12 100 average seasons? Why is there a premium/discount factor?

Because that scenario is 1200 points for one year vs 120 points per year over 10 years

How is that equal and fair? The team who takes the 12 gets 1 good year, and when they lose the 12 the following year they're flowered

Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: ossie85 on August 11, 2016, 04:42:01 PM

Cap: Designed to make sure teams don't get unbeatable or uncompetitive for any year (a good cap shouldn't stop teams being strong)

Trading: Based on a person's (reasonable) perception for the future (short or long term).
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on August 11, 2016, 04:43:18 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 11, 2016, 04:35:37 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 11, 2016, 04:28:25 PM
If trades are to be dealt on the merits of players involved how is 12 100 average seasons not equal to 12 100 average seasons? Why is there a premium/discount factor?

Because that scenario is 1200 points for one year vs 120 points per year over 10 years

How is that equal and fair? The team who takes the 12 gets 1 good year, and when they lose the 12 the following year they're flowered

But it's their choice to go one way or the other. Who gets the better deal in your opinion?
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on August 11, 2016, 04:47:09 PM
It's like getting paid. Would you prefer to get paid $52,000 in one go and not get paid for the rest of the year, or $1000 a week? Either way you still get the same amount of money. Same thing as getting the same amount of points scored for your team.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on August 11, 2016, 04:48:40 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 11, 2016, 04:28:25 PM
If trades are to be dealt on the merits of players involved how is 12 100 average seasons not equal to 12 100 average seasons? Why is there a premium/discount factor?

did you read points 1,2,3?

Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on August 11, 2016, 04:54:08 PM
Point 3 is moot.

Bont can fill one spot for 12 years, while the others can't fill any spots for 11 years. In the end it's 12 spots being filled in total in each scenario (assuming no injuries/only play for one season)
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on August 11, 2016, 04:54:56 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 11, 2016, 04:47:09 PM
It's like getting paid. Would you prefer to get paid $52,000 in one go and not get paid for the rest of the year, or $1000 a week? Either way you still get the same amount of money. Same thing as getting the same amount of points scored for your team.

You get interest....youd take the 52k as long as you know how to budget
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on August 11, 2016, 04:57:44 PM
Haha I give up.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on August 11, 2016, 05:12:12 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 11, 2016, 04:57:44 PM
Haha I give up.

here is the answer why trading for the future is bad. You spend your time at the bottom like Dublin did in 2012 and 2013 and then when you build your way up after 2 years of struggling you get constant hate for being a super team with a strong list.

just sit at the top like Mexico every year and nothing negative comes your way.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 11, 2016, 05:27:40 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 11, 2016, 04:43:18 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 11, 2016, 04:35:37 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 11, 2016, 04:28:25 PM
If trades are to be dealt on the merits of players involved how is 12 100 average seasons not equal to 12 100 average seasons? Why is there a premium/discount factor?

Because that scenario is 1200 points for one year vs 120 points per year over 10 years

How is that equal and fair? The team who takes the 12 gets 1 good year, and when they lose the 12 the following year they're flowered

But it's their choice to go one way or the other. Who gets the better deal in your opinion?

Yes it's their choice, and it's my choice to neg it :P
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on August 11, 2016, 05:29:13 PM
Who wins though?
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on August 11, 2016, 05:38:19 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 11, 2016, 05:29:13 PM
Who wins though?

if your assuming bont is a 115 average.

then the player getting 12 guys who average 115 if mids. 100 if fwds, 95 if defender and 100 if ruck is by a mile if they are all old.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 11, 2016, 05:50:38 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 11, 2016, 05:29:13 PM
Who wins though?

Depends

If my intention is to play WXV for one more year than resign, I'll take the 12 and win the comp and go out the champ

If not, then the guy getting the 12 clearly loses. And don't ask me why, because you know why :P
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on August 11, 2016, 05:52:47 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 11, 2016, 05:50:38 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 11, 2016, 05:29:13 PM
Who wins though?

Depends

If my intention is to play WXV for one more year than resign, I'll take the 12 and win the comp and go out the champ

If not, then the guy getting the 12 clearly loses. And don't ask me why, because you know why :P

so they get 12 guys to fill a whole team and they play for 1-3 years. Or you take a punt on 1 guy who could easily go down with injury or miss in a final or whatever.

Im surprised you say this as it kinda goes against the whole Treloar for JJK Duffield trade.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 11, 2016, 05:55:25 PM
My answer is because I took it that the scenario was that the 12 all retire after one year
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on August 11, 2016, 06:00:12 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 11, 2016, 05:55:25 PM
My answer is because I took it that the scenario was that the 12 all retire after one year

that scenario can never occur. Unless every single player comes out and signs they will retire before the year ends.

even then. I rate treloar as a minimum 110 player. If bont has 12 years then he has 10.

If you offered me this

90 90 90
110 110 110
100
95 95 95

what are the chances i turn that down if i could lock in those numbers for 1 year.

nobody in the comp should do that your giving away a insta flag.



Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on August 11, 2016, 06:01:09 PM
the hell is a confabulation
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on August 11, 2016, 06:05:41 PM
So back to my original question, how much extra is the immediate benefit worth? Is 2×100 worth 100, 100, 100? Is 3×100 worth 100 ,100, 100, 100? More?
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on August 11, 2016, 06:14:56 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 11, 2016, 06:05:41 PM
So back to my original question, how much extra is the immediate benefit worth? Is 2×100 worth 100, 100, 100? Is 3×100 worth 100 ,100, 100, 100? More?

i dont think you can quantify it.

as much as we like numbers. your missing way too many variables.

are they injury prone, is the prediction of 1 year correct, what positions are these players, let alone trying to project 12 years in the future.

Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on August 11, 2016, 06:15:18 PM
I think that value is in the eye of the beholder
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Levi434 on August 11, 2016, 06:52:34 PM
How about we put some names in?

Team 1:
D: x, x, x, x
M: M. Bontempelli, x, x, x
R: x
F: x, x, x, x
I: x, x

Team 2:
D: M. Boyd, J. Kelly, C. Enright, J. Gibson
M: D. Swan, S. Mitchell, B. Goddard, D. Mundy
R: A. Sandilands
F: N. Riewoldt, S. Johnson, J. Waite, x
I: x, x


Which team would you prefer?
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 11, 2016, 06:56:05 PM
This discussion is pointless anyway as it will never happen

And I don't agree with how meow values players using that model either

Can't just say years by average and whoever has more wins. Like Holz said there's so much more to it, but I know meow likes his way, I just don't agree with it
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: ossie85 on August 11, 2016, 07:32:34 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on August 11, 2016, 06:01:09 PM
the hell is a confabulation

I'm confabulating right now!
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: upthemaidens on August 11, 2016, 09:27:45 PM
Alex Fasolo is available, 24yo forward with good job security.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 12, 2016, 10:38:04 AM
Are there any teams looking for picks?
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on August 12, 2016, 10:43:12 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 12, 2016, 10:38:04 AM
Are there any teams looking for picks?

Hehe.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 12, 2016, 10:49:03 AM
What's so funny Purps?  :-\

Already got a few PM's haha, was just asking in general guys

Not looking to dump our picks just yet, but just wanted to see if there were any teams in particular preferably after picks :)
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Jay on August 13, 2016, 12:11:05 AM
Quote from: Levi434 on August 11, 2016, 06:52:34 PM
How about we put some names in?

Team 1:
D: x, x, x, x
M: M. Bontempelli, x, x, x
R: x
F: x, x, x, x
I: x, x

Team 2:
D: M. Boyd, J. Kelly, C. Enright, J. Gibson
M: D. Swan, S. Mitchell, B. Goddard, D. Mundy
R: A. Sandilands
F: N. Riewoldt, S. Johnson, J. Waite, x
I: x, x


Which team would you prefer?
Bont is worth more than all of them in their primes ;)
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on August 13, 2016, 12:15:07 AM
^ True story.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Toga on August 13, 2016, 02:27:30 AM
Also willing to part with pick 10. HMU.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on August 13, 2016, 02:45:04 AM
Quote from: Toga on August 13, 2016, 02:27:30 AM
Also willing to part with pick 10. HMU.
We'd probably be willing to give up pick 20 if you're interested
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 13, 2016, 07:06:05 AM
LOL Dave

Seeing as McKernan was demanding 12 last year, we'll offer Griffin for 10. HMU Purps  ;D
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Boomz on August 15, 2016, 12:23:49 PM
Fair bit of interest in Ryder and out of our rucks he is probably the one on the move so if you are interested send in an offer before it's too late
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 16, 2016, 11:18:52 PM
I'm suffering from a lack of confabulation  :'(
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on August 16, 2016, 11:20:22 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 16, 2016, 11:18:52 PM
I'm suffering from a lack of confabulation  :'(
Bit of a dry spell for ya? ;)
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 16, 2016, 11:22:01 PM
Quote from: GoLions on August 16, 2016, 11:20:22 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 16, 2016, 11:18:52 PM
I'm suffering from a lack of confabulation  :'(
Bit of a dry spell for ya? ;)

Yep, need some confabulation folks!

Forwards and defenders please
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 17, 2016, 11:15:01 AM
108 trades submitted in 2015 and 153 submitted in 2014

How many trades do people think will get lodged this season?

Ima guess 84
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on August 17, 2016, 02:06:09 PM
Submitted or passed?
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 17, 2016, 02:13:43 PM
Well I did say submitted and lodged, not passed :P
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on August 17, 2016, 02:41:28 PM
Well I've already organized about 15 trades myself so I'm guessing it'll be huge.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 17, 2016, 03:20:51 PM
So a full rebuild Meow?
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on August 17, 2016, 03:48:31 PM
Nah, I'm lying again.

My rebuild started as soon as I got the team. Most people think Christchurch is a retirement home but I've got almost a full team of 22 and under's who are AFL quality. Not stars yet but most are getting their development years done with in the AFL teams.

B: Lever, Andrews, D. McKenzie, C.Ellis
M: Blakely, Steele, Neal-Bullen, Wigg
R:
F: Stringer, McLean, Langford, WHE/dirty mo
I: Anderson/McKenna

Then there's guys like Breust, Wilson, Clay Smith, Trengove, Cox, Vandenberg and Lester who are 25 or under.
The ruck isn't a problem since 25 year old Roughead is averaging 80+ without Campbell in the WB team.

Dickson, Wilson, Trengove, Vandenberg, Lester, Ben Reid, Garlett, McKernan, Gibbs and Hartlett can move, but if I can't find a decent deal then I'm happy to have them during the transition from the old guys to the new guys. Gibbs can sit at M1 in both teams and I'm fine with that.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on August 17, 2016, 04:01:32 PM
Koby Stevens isn't old enough to be in the old team, but he's not listed above because I've agreed to trade him for a has-been/never-was.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on August 17, 2016, 06:13:56 PM
I'm finding it impossible to bring in a young depth midfielder so I'll put Kyle Langford up for trade for a pick then Draft one. He's an AFL first round pick, every Bomber fan has him in their best 22, and he's got 2 years development put into him. Don't be cheap.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Nige on August 17, 2016, 06:16:36 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 17, 2016, 06:13:56 PM
I'm finding it impossible to bring in a young depth midfielder so I'll put Kyle Langford up for trade for a pick then Draft one.
Seems like the only way to do it these days!
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on August 17, 2016, 06:31:20 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 17, 2016, 06:13:56 PM
I'm finding it impossible to bring in a young depth midfielder so I'll put Kyle Langford up for trade for a pick then Draft one. He's an AFL first round pick, every Bomber fan has him in their best 22, and he's got 2 years development put into him. Don't be cheap.

Also willing to package him with a Wilson type. Also willing to trade him for an ancient gun (any position) with one year left. Also willing to package him with a starter for a better starter. The options are endless.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: JBs-Hawks on August 17, 2016, 07:00:19 PM
Confabulation time

Caleb Daniel, Liam Shiels, Jackson Trengove, Cameron Sutcliffe, Travis Varcoe, Ben McGlynn, David Swallow all chances to move!
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Boomz on August 17, 2016, 07:00:33 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 17, 2016, 06:31:20 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 17, 2016, 06:13:56 PM
I'm finding it impossible to bring in a young depth midfielder so I'll put Kyle Langford up for trade for a pick then Draft one. He's an AFL first round pick, every Bomber fan has him in their best 22, and he's got 2 years development put into him. Don't be cheap.

Also willing to package him with a Wilson type. Also willing to trade him for an ancient gun (any position) with one year left. Also willing to package him with a starter for a better starter. The options are endless.
Straight swap for Dunkley?
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 17, 2016, 07:18:54 PM
Haha Boomz :D
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 17, 2016, 07:20:47 PM
Sexton, Harmes, Conca, Marcon = Young depth mid
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 17, 2016, 09:13:59 PM
I'll be on chat for a bit if anyone wants to talk trades  ;D

http://ffchat.wixsite.com/chat
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on August 17, 2016, 10:41:16 PM
Quote from: Boomz on August 17, 2016, 07:00:33 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 17, 2016, 06:31:20 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 17, 2016, 06:13:56 PM
I'm finding it impossible to bring in a young depth midfielder so I'll put Kyle Langford up for trade for a pick then Draft one. He's an AFL first round pick, every Bomber fan has him in their best 22, and he's got 2 years development put into him. Don't be cheap.

Also willing to package him with a Wilson type. Also willing to trade him for an ancient gun (any position) with one year left. Also willing to package him with a starter for a better starter. The options are endless.
Straight swap for Dunkley?

Post it up.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on August 19, 2016, 11:39:45 PM
Ruckmen dropping like flies!

Cox and McKernan available.

Sandi also available for a very selective group of old premos.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Boomz on August 20, 2016, 10:18:44 AM
Quote from: meow meow on August 17, 2016, 10:41:16 PM
Quote from: Boomz on August 17, 2016, 07:00:33 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 17, 2016, 06:31:20 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 17, 2016, 06:13:56 PM
I'm finding it impossible to bring in a young depth midfielder so I'll put Kyle Langford up for trade for a pick then Draft one. He's an AFL first round pick, every Bomber fan has him in their best 22, and he's got 2 years development put into him. Don't be cheap.

Also willing to package him with a Wilson type. Also willing to trade him for an ancient gun (any position) with one year left. Also willing to package him with a starter for a better starter. The options are endless.
Straight swap for Dunkley?

Post it up.

Sure you don't want JJ? To even it up
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: DazBurg on August 20, 2016, 01:49:15 PM
purps you yourself said you try to limit the amount of Melbourne players you have

(with the news of Hibberd asking to leave the bombers and his likely destination in fact being Melbourne)

i feel it is only the right thing to do at PNL and help you facilitate a trade for Hibberd to leave Berlin  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on August 20, 2016, 02:31:17 PM
1   Cairo

2   Cairo
3   Toronto
4   Tokyo
5   Moscow
6   London
7   Cape Town
8   Berlin
9   Christchurch
10   Beijing
11   Seoul
12   Buenos Aires
13   Pacific
14   NY
15   PNL

16   Mexico
17   Dublin
18   Rio
19   NDT

20   Toronto

21   Cairo
22   Toronto
23   Tokyo
24   Moscow
25   London
26   Cape Town
27   Berlin
28   Christchurch
29   Beijing
30   Seoul
31   Buenos Aires
32   Pacific
33   NY
34   PNL

35   Mexico
36   Dublin
37   Rio
38   NDT

39   Cairo
40   Toronto
41   Tokyo
42   Moscow
43   London
44   Cape Town
45   Berlin
46   Christchurch
47   Beijing
48   Seoul
49   Buenos Aires
50   Pacific
51   NY
52   PNL

53   Mexico
54   Dublin
55   Rio
56   NDT

57   Cairo
58   Toronto
59   Tokyo
60   Moscow
61   London
62   Cape Town
63   Berlin
64   Christchurch
65   Beijing
66   Seoul
67   Buenos Aires
68   Pacific
69   NY
70   PNL

71   Mexico
72   Dublin
73   Rio
74   NDT

75   Cairo
76   Toronto
77   Tokyo
78   Moscow
79   London
80   Cape Town
81   Berlin
82   Christchurch
83   Beijing
84   Seoul
85   Buenos Aires
86   Pacific
87   NY
88   PNL

89   Mexico
90   Dublin
91   Rio
92   NDT
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 20, 2016, 02:34:43 PM
Haha meow, love that order  ;D

And Moscow, If NicNat is gone for 12 months like it's looking we can give you Bellchambers

Would just need a package of Hogan and Moore, or a direct swap for Gray or Hep  :P
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Jay on August 20, 2016, 02:44:26 PM
Had a fair bit of interest in Barlow - we'd be willing to trade him, but is a premo so would need a premo in return, not a package of depth/picks etc. before you try to offer that :P We're willing to take a slight hit in current scoring to get someone a bit younger.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on August 20, 2016, 08:00:29 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on August 20, 2016, 01:49:15 PM
purps you yourself said you try to limit the amount of Melbourne players you have

(with the news of Hibberd asking to leave the bombers and his likely destination in fact being Melbourne)

i feel it is only the right thing to do at PNL and help you facilitate a trade for Hibberd to leave Berlin  ;)

Haha, I said I wouldn't go get melbourne players  ;)

It'd be especially good if he came to melbourne, because all of our defenders have been fantasy relevant in Worlds this year, as our game plan demands it  8)

And before anyone brings him up, don't look at Frost's season average, but look at his scores ever since we moved him back  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on August 21, 2016, 11:28:06 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 02, 2016, 07:27:05 PM
NDT now taking the best pick offer for SUPERSTAR SIMON WHITE

With a high of 113 this season, and some healthy scores of 86, 80, 79, 78 and 78, this gun could be your ultimate FWD/DEF swingman.

White also managed a respectable 84ave over the last month

Get in quick!
90 and 74 over last 2 weeks

Handy depth!

Still taking pick offers
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 23, 2016, 02:01:55 PM
Have had quite a fair bit of interest in Gibson

Has just signed on for 2017  8)

Hodge and Burgoyne also signed on for next year
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on August 23, 2016, 02:52:40 PM
Have had no interest in Tory Dickson

Signed up for 2017 and 2018 8)

Garlett also signed up for the next 3 years
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Nige on August 23, 2016, 03:45:19 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 23, 2016, 02:52:40 PM
Have had no interest in Tory Dickson

Signed up for 2017 and 2018 8)

Garlett also signed up for the next 3 years

Pick 80something for him like the last time he moved between our clubs.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on August 24, 2016, 11:48:51 PM
Updated Christchurch team list

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,99378.0.html
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 25, 2016, 07:59:52 AM
Quote from: meow meow on August 24, 2016, 11:48:51 PM
Updated Christchurch team list

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,99378.0.html

Interesting...

Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on August 25, 2016, 10:02:57 AM
Quote from: meow meow on August 24, 2016, 11:48:51 PM
Updated Christchurch team list

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,99378.0.html

Will the Saints get their god GAJ?
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Boomz on August 25, 2016, 12:05:03 PM
Available: Ibbotson, Dempsey, Liam Dawson, Corr, Jaksch, Willis, Cavka (retired), Clem Smith, Grimley, Ambrose, J Merrett, S Edwards, S Yarran, Beech, D Lloyd, L Jones, L Austin, S Morris, Durdin
For the right deal: Grimes, R. Henderson, A Kennedy, Menadue, A Morgan, Redden, Miles, Gore, R. O'Brien, Cunningham, Cripps, S Lloyd, T Phillips
Unlikely: Gleeson, D Thomas, Blair, C Cameron, Young, Atkins
Off the table (feel free to try): Parker, Johannisen, Dunkley, Ryder (gone), Z Smith, Lycett, Dahlhaus

Looking for 1-2 young defenders for depth, 1-2 decent forwards & a premium mid.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on August 25, 2016, 10:16:41 PM
Ed Curnow on the table for a forward :P

Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: DazBurg on August 27, 2016, 11:14:44 AM
Quote from: meow meow on August 24, 2016, 11:48:51 PM
Updated Christchurch team list

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,99378.0.html
what happened that list shrunk quite a bit over the last couple of days
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: My Chumps on August 27, 2016, 04:59:34 PM
Hey everyone, sorry about my absence over the last two weeks, it's been an unfortunately hectic period for me irl. But I'm back and churning through those PM's now :)

Cheers for the patience!
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: My Chumps on August 27, 2016, 05:15:37 PM
Also can't believe I missed two of the biggest upsets in Worlds history last weekend :o
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: elephants on August 28, 2016, 03:45:24 PM
So Purps has just chucked up the WXV Official Confirmation Thread...

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Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: fanTCfool on August 28, 2016, 03:51:34 PM
Confabulation and Confirmation is going to get confusing when checking out 'New Replies'
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on August 28, 2016, 03:52:25 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on August 28, 2016, 03:51:34 PM
Confabulation and Confirmation is going to get confusing when checking out 'New Replies'

Lol, I was about to say the same thing. I'll see what I can do
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 28, 2016, 05:25:15 PM
Jack Fitzpatrick doing alright!

Get your offers in!
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ringo on August 28, 2016, 05:50:16 PM
So with now having a $ cap we will have to wait till we find out values before trading as no doubt there are some discrepancies from point based to $ cap.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on August 28, 2016, 05:52:42 PM
Quote from: Ringo on August 28, 2016, 05:50:16 PM
So with now having a $ cap we will have to wait till we find out values before trading as no doubt there are some discrepancies from point based to $ cap.

Actually, that is a good point.

Yeah I'm gonna have to extend the trade period opening until I publicise all salaries (which oz is gonna work out for me). It might still be at midnight tonight though! So at worst, tomorrow midday I'd imagine.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ringo on August 28, 2016, 05:56:58 PM
and some already negotiated trades may not now be as clear cut.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: ossie85 on August 28, 2016, 06:01:51 PM
Quote from: Ringo on August 28, 2016, 05:56:58 PM
and some already negotiated trades may not now be as clear cut.

You can't have trades formally finalised yet. That's why rules are voted on before trade period starts.

No one has any obligation to honour any negotiations so far.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 28, 2016, 06:14:19 PM
I'd be surprised if people really care about the cap when it comes to negotiating trades now

Plenty of time to get below/above
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on August 29, 2016, 10:43:45 AM
Trade period is open!

Proceed to go nuts!  :D
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on August 29, 2016, 12:54:57 PM
ok so im sad to do this and i think he could come back

but Jarryd Roughead is on the trade table because of cap reasons.

Heath Grundy is too and despite being a starter needs to go with the cap. very good D4 and playing at a high afl level so should keep going.

Lewis Jetta also up for trade, starting to come good towards the end of the season, could have a big preseaon and be back, also always a chance of getting dpp.

please PM me if any interest. Not everyone will go but some will.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on August 30, 2016, 10:29:44 AM
Fairly quiet day 1 of trading compared to previous years  :o
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on August 30, 2016, 10:32:42 AM
Lol meow :P I just realised what you did to the thread title  :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Nige on August 30, 2016, 10:36:22 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 30, 2016, 10:32:42 AM
Lol meow :P I just realised what you did to the thread title  :P
;D
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 30, 2016, 11:37:24 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 30, 2016, 10:29:44 AM
Fairly quiet day 1 of trading compared to previous years  :o

Was thinking the same thing!

Things are too quiet around here  :(
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on August 30, 2016, 11:48:59 AM
Shaun McKernan is being traded for a pick. If you want him put in an offer. Best offer received by midnight will win.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Boomz on August 30, 2016, 12:36:57 PM
Liam Dawson, J Merrett, Corr, Jaksch, Clem Smith, Dempsey, S Morris all available for picks.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ringo on August 30, 2016, 01:59:19 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 30, 2016, 11:37:24 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 30, 2016, 10:29:44 AM
Fairly quiet day 1 of trading compared to previous years  :o

Was thinking the same thing!

Things are too quiet around here  :(
Cap having an effect - Got some trades planned but unfortunately end up below the cap so working on other trades,
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 30, 2016, 07:14:34 PM
Quote from: Ringo on August 30, 2016, 01:59:19 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 30, 2016, 11:37:24 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 30, 2016, 10:29:44 AM
Fairly quiet day 1 of trading compared to previous years  :o

Was thinking the same thing!

Things are too quiet around here  :(
Cap having an effect - Got some trades planned but unfortunately end up below the cap so working on other trades,

Come and see us then, because we've got points to give :)

Grigg, Picken, Rosa and SD Thompson can possibly move - good starters for some teams and interchange for others and carry $
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 30, 2016, 07:30:15 PM
Just a little updated on player availability at NY

Gibson, SD Thompson, Sinclair, Mitch Brown (Ess), Grigg, Picken, Conca, Rosa, Sexton, Marcon, Waite, Harmes, Vardy, Redpath, Fitzpatrick, Griffin, Shenton, White (Melb), White (Coll), Stewart (GWS), Miles (Haw)

If you're interested in any of them, let me know AND tell me what you can offer :)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Boomz on August 30, 2016, 09:33:16 PM
So... Let's liven this place up a bit. Dahlhaus or Dunkley could move for the right deal as I want more balance in my mids. Would take a premium mid or fwds/def's. Get in before meow offers me his whole team for Dunkley.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on August 30, 2016, 09:47:11 PM
Buenos Aires please give me a pick for Ben Reid or Nathan Wilson. If you parted with pick 20 for Adcock last year I'm very keen to talk.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on August 30, 2016, 09:51:59 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 30, 2016, 09:47:11 PM
Buenos Aires please give me a pick for Ben Reid or Nathan Wilson. If you parted with pick 20 for Adcock last year I'm very keen to talk.
Honestly i dont know what your talking about last year, youll need to be more clear with me :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on August 30, 2016, 10:05:56 PM
Pick 23, my mistake!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on August 30, 2016, 10:08:01 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 30, 2016, 10:05:56 PM
Pick 23, my mistake!
haha wasnt really hinting at a mistake, it was a genuine i dont know :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on August 31, 2016, 02:58:38 PM
79.5 average, 27 year old defender Ben Reid looking likely to be gone soon. Still open to negotiations though.

Can be packaged with a quality depth/starter like Wilson (or a host of others) if the deal suits.

Will strongly consider pick offers for one/both/others too.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 31, 2016, 05:29:56 PM
Really surprised about how quiet things are around here  :-\

We're in a position were we can probably look to shed a few dollars off the cap so here are some players that could probably move and help certain teams

Jarrad Waite - Last 3 years averaging 91.8, 80.6, 91.5
Matt Rosa - 29 years old so still has 2-3 years averaging 75+
Liam Picken - Just turned 30, 9 times went 90+ this year to average 85.5 after averaging 99.2 last year
Scott D Thompson - Good for 70+ most weeks, and still has a couple of years left

These guys are quite handy depth to have when starters miss, and could even start at D4, F4, Interchange etc for a lot of teams especially when they won't cost you much


Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: upthemaidens on August 31, 2016, 06:09:30 PM
Looking to do a few package type deals.   Needing to free up some space on the list, so come get yourself a bargain.
      All positions, old players, kids, pick upgrades etc. considered.   You can PM either Jay or myself.

J.Lamb(Carl), J.Hamling(WB), T.Mohr(GWS), J.Tippett(NM), B.Gowers(Carl), #50, #68, #86, PSD#13
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 31, 2016, 07:25:21 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 31, 2016, 05:29:56 PM
Jarrad Waite - Last 3 years averaging 91.8, 80.6, 91.5
Matt Rosa - 29 years old so still has 2-3 years averaging 75+
Liam Picken - Just turned 30, 9 times went 90+ this year to average 85.5 after averaging 99.2 last year
Scott D Thompson - Good for 70+ most weeks, and still has a couple of years left

Getting quite a bit of interest about these 4 so thought I would try to make things a little easier

Waite - might only have a year left, but still a starter so not interested in late picks or players that rarely ever get AFL time. Would want a decent player for him - lower averaging starter/cover, otherwise he can play out his career at NY

Picken - Would take a lower averaging younger player who is getting game time, or a pick*

Rosa & SDT - Happy to take a pick* or bundle to get a player

*Not interested in picks beyond the 2nd round

As you all know, it's hard to be really specific - just shoot me some offers and we'll go from there
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Jroo on August 31, 2016, 07:44:03 PM
Anyone have a ruckman for sale?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on August 31, 2016, 07:47:02 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 31, 2016, 07:44:03 PM
Anyone have a ruckman for sale?

YES!

ALL 211cms of him!

*edit*

211.4cms of Mason Cox that is!

People seem to think I mean Sandi.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ringo on August 31, 2016, 07:58:07 PM
Thought I would put up a list of London players available and not available.

There is discussions going on about some but here goes


Readily Tradeable:

Tom Lonergan, Ethan Hughes, Daniel Neilson, Hugh Beasley, Claye Beams, Kyle Hartigan, Josh Clayton, Hugh Beasley, Ben Cunnington*, Lin Jong, Matthew Shaw, Andrew Moore, Jarrad Jansen, Alec Waterman, Billy Evans, Declan Hamilton, Darcy MacPherson, Zac Bates, Darrean Wyatt, Mitchell Clark, Josh Hill, Corey Gregson, Michael Luxford,  Blake Hardwick; Maboir Chol

Tradeable but require strong offer:
Brad Sheppard,  Ryan Harwood, Dan McStay, Darcy Gardiner, Billy Hartung,  Jesse Lonergan, Will Langford, Chris Mayne, Dean Towers, Joshua schache,

Not going any where:

Adam Saad, Dane Rampe, Orazio Fantasia, Luke Shuey, Dan Hannebery; Tim Membrey, Tom T Lynch, Callum Sinclair, Jonathan Giles, Mav Weller.

Will be looking for a starting mid and willing to package players to get one.

Struggling with minimum cap but working on it as well.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Toga on August 31, 2016, 08:09:17 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 31, 2016, 07:44:03 PM
Anyone have a ruckman for sale?

Gach Nyuon
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on August 31, 2016, 08:10:44 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 31, 2016, 07:44:03 PM
Anyone have a ruckman for sale?
Lobb for rocky
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Nige on August 31, 2016, 10:13:18 PM
Quote from: GoLions on August 31, 2016, 08:10:44 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 31, 2016, 07:44:03 PM
Anyone have a ruckman for sale?
Lobb for rocky
Dawson Simpson and Tom Downie also!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: JBs-Hawks on August 31, 2016, 10:15:03 PM
Jackson Trengove!

Also

Could possibly do

Liam Shiels + 1st or 2nd round draft pick for a better midfielder if theres interest
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on September 01, 2016, 01:54:06 PM
Getting some interest in Matt Crouch recently.

We weren't planning on trading him at all, and still aren't too sure. But as always we're open to all offers

Ball magnet, superstar, gun kid, etc etc

Only 21

From rounds 11-23 he averaged 104

and remember...

He's better than Brad ;)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ringo on September 01, 2016, 05:18:46 PM
Getting a fair amount of interest in Cunnington so if you want a starting mid get your offers in. Willing to package other players if need be to get a decent mid.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 01, 2016, 05:28:29 PM
93
93
96
80

Isn't Cunnington a decent mid who had a down year? Three 93+ seasons prior to this one.

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Nige on September 01, 2016, 05:29:11 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 01, 2016, 05:28:29 PM
93
93
96
80

Isn't Cunnington a decent mid who had a down year? Three 93+ seasons prior to this one.
That he is.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ringo on September 01, 2016, 06:45:09 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 01, 2016, 05:29:11 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 01, 2016, 05:28:29 PM
93
93
96
80

Isn't Cunnington a decent mid who had a down year? Three 93+ seasons prior to this one.
That he is.
But will he get London to the finals that is the question?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Nige on September 01, 2016, 06:46:38 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 01, 2016, 06:45:09 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 01, 2016, 05:29:11 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 01, 2016, 05:28:29 PM
93
93
96
80

Isn't Cunnington a decent mid who had a down year? Three 93+ seasons prior to this one.
That he is.
But will he get London to the finals that is the question?
He won't if you trade him!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 01, 2016, 06:51:30 PM
Wanna get London to the finals?

Trade Hanners and Rampe

Could get 3-4 starters, albeit not as high averaging but more points overall and more depth across all lines

Surprised other teams don't do this, and yes I'm serious

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on September 01, 2016, 07:21:40 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 01, 2016, 06:51:30 PM
Wanna get London to the finals?

Trade Hanners and Rampe

Could get 3-4 starters, albeit not as high averaging but more points overall and more depth across all lines

Surprised other teams don't do this, and yes I'm serious

Agreed trade them to mexico for oldies finish 6 then take the spoon out in 2018
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 01, 2016, 07:37:36 PM
The spoon is mine in 2018 m8.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on September 01, 2016, 07:41:26 PM
Sammy Menegola could be leaving Moscow!

Chuck me a PM if interested.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: elephants on September 01, 2016, 07:42:27 PM
If you wanna see how to turn a shower list into an (almost) premiership winning one, look at NDT's transformation!

(Too many posts without an NDT mention) :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 01, 2016, 07:45:48 PM
Really I should have been allowed to get Menegola under the previously listed player rule since I drafted him, not the current Moscow coaches.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Hellopplz on September 01, 2016, 07:53:29 PM
How would Panos be should he return to an AFL list? Meow had him but PNL were the last team with him before he got delisted a few weeks later :P.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 01, 2016, 08:00:27 PM
If Moscow get Liam Jurrah when he returns I'll be so pissed!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 01, 2016, 08:01:37 PM
Would slash wrists if Bling returned and I couldn't have him.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: DazBurg on September 01, 2016, 08:56:30 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 01, 2016, 07:45:48 PM
Really I should have been allowed to get Menegola under the previously listed player rule since I drafted him, not the current Moscow coaches.
actually how come this didn't happen?

i thought that was the rules we played by if they left afl then were redrafted original team had first crack?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 01, 2016, 08:59:19 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on September 01, 2016, 08:56:30 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 01, 2016, 07:45:48 PM
Really I should have been allowed to get Menegola under the previously listed player rule since I drafted him, not the current Moscow coaches.
actually how come this didn't happen?

i thought that was the rules we played by if they left afl then were redrafted original team had first crack?

Haha Moscow was his original team. I don't coach them anymore, that's why!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 01, 2016, 09:03:34 PM
Haha Daz

London trade Hanners + another, and Cairo trade Beams + another and they'll be pushing the 8

Guaranteed  8)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on September 01, 2016, 09:05:59 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 01, 2016, 09:03:34 PM
Haha Daz

London trade Hanners + another, and Cairo trade Beams + another and they'll be pushing the 8

Guaranteed  8)

Trading hannas and pushing for finals shouldnt be used in the same sentence ;) Its either pushing for finals. Or trading Hannas :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: DazBurg on September 01, 2016, 09:12:02 PM
lol good point guys

i'll show myself out....lololol
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 01, 2016, 09:30:08 PM
Been said before already, but really really surprised at the lack of trading

Feels flat around here  :-[
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Nige on September 01, 2016, 09:36:58 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 01, 2016, 09:03:34 PM
Haha Daz

London trade Hanners + another, and Cairo trade Beams + another and they'll be pushing the 8

Guaranteed  8)
Yeah righto Ringo, you heard the man.

Trade us Hanners and Rampe and we'll give ya Beams and Hanley.  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 01, 2016, 09:40:49 PM
I blame Holz.

Do something evil so we can argue for weeks.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Hellopplz on September 01, 2016, 09:42:07 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 01, 2016, 09:40:49 PM
I blame Holz.

Do something evil so we can argue for weeks.
He was close to doing it, but then pulled the plug on it :P.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on September 01, 2016, 10:19:46 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 01, 2016, 09:40:49 PM
I blame Holz.

Do something evil so we can argue for weeks.

Its brewing
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Nige on September 01, 2016, 10:39:38 PM
Oh god.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: My Chumps on September 02, 2016, 01:06:50 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 01, 2016, 09:03:34 PM
Haha Daz

London trade Hanners + another, and Cairo trade Beams + another and they'll be pushing the 8

Guaranteed  8)
It's definitely not that easy dude. People aren't willing to give up two starters for one, especially forwards and defenders.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 02, 2016, 02:28:00 AM
This should liven things up a bit. What's the worst offer/demand/valuation you've received this trade period? And also the worst you've received in any trade period.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on September 02, 2016, 08:50:15 AM
Quote from: meow meow on September 02, 2016, 02:28:00 AM
This should liven things up a bit. What's the worst offer/demand/valuation you've received this trade period? And also the worst you've received in any trade period.

Haha, oh, this could get heated :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Nige on September 02, 2016, 12:16:58 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 02, 2016, 02:28:00 AM
This should liven things up a bit. What's the worst offer/demand/valuation you've received this trade period? And also the worst you've received in any trade period.
This should be good.  ;D
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 02, 2016, 12:26:49 PM
Can't recall any specific offers (but there's been a few!), but I have found that there are a couple of teams who are more or less impossible to deal with due to their ridiculous demands/valuations, so I've pretty much just stopped even bothering to attempt to talk/negotiate with them



Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Nige on September 02, 2016, 12:28:38 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 02, 2016, 12:26:49 PM
Can't recall any specific offers (but there's been a few!), but I have found that there are a couple of teams who are more or less impossible to deal with due to their ridiculous demands/valuations, so I've pretty much just stopped even bothering to attempt to talk/negotiate with them
This is basically a recurring thing I've found, some serial offenders.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 02, 2016, 06:21:06 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 31, 2016, 02:58:38 PM
79.5 average, 27 year old defender Ben Reid looking likely to be gone soon. Still open to negotiations though.

Can be packaged with a quality depth/starter like Wilson (or a host of others) if the deal suits.

Will strongly consider pick offers for one/both.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Levi434 on September 02, 2016, 07:20:36 PM
Sorry about the inactivity levels by myself over the past week. I've been quite unwell, but hopefully will be able to get to everyone over the next day or two.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on September 02, 2016, 10:07:32 PM
Two coaches to go in the first lot of trade voting.

Trades 1-7 and Trade 11 have so far attracted 0 or 1 votes, so they will definitely pass (because we revised the auto-pass limit to 3 votes).

So yeah, consider them done! Except Trade 6 has not yet been confirmed by Levi, so it is not yet official.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on September 03, 2016, 04:59:13 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 01, 2016, 10:19:46 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 01, 2016, 09:40:49 PM
I blame Holz.

Do something evil so we can argue for weeks.

Its brewing

(https://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Technology/Pix/pictures/2009/7/24/1248433874260/Nuclear-Explosion-001.jpg)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 03, 2016, 08:42:46 PM
How many more votes are we waiting on?

Kind of annoying that every deal that doesn't involve spuds always seems to get negs from some coaches

The 3 trades in question are all easily fair. Nobody is getting bent over
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on September 03, 2016, 08:44:31 PM
Votes are in!

Trade 1
Dublin trade: Samuel Collins
New York trade: Kayne Turner + Pick 51
Votes: 0
Admin comments: Meh.
Verdict: PASS

Trade 2
Dublin trade: Daniel Currie + Pick 54
Buenos Aires trade: Kieran Collins + Pick 49
Votes: 0
Admin comments: Meh.
Verdict: PASS

Trade 3
Christchurch trade: Pick 9 + Pick 28
Seoul trade: Thomas Boyd
Votes: 1
Admin comments: Fair enough.
Verdict: PASS

Trade 4
Dublin trade: Marc Murphy + Pick 72
New Delhi trade: Kieren Jack + Pick 55
Votes: 0
Admin comments: 3 Dublin trades, 0 negs, great to see!
Verdict: PASS

Trade 5
Cairo trade: Shaun Higgins
Christchurch trade: Koby Stevens, Pick 46, Pick 64 + Pick 82
Votes: 1
Admin comments: Yup, all good. Higgins the biggest fantasy tease I know.
Verdict: PASS

Trade 6 (unconfirmed)
Rio de Janeiro trade: Robert Murphy
Christchurch trade: Matthew Boyd
Votes: 1
Admin comments: Oldie for Oldie, defender for defender.
Verdict: PASS, but not official until Rio confirmation.

Trade 7
Cairo trade: Kamdyn McIntosh + Charlie Curnow
Seoul trade: Jack Newnes + Jason Castagna
Votes: 0
Admin comments: Good trade.
Verdict: PASS

Trade 8
New Delhi trade: Tom $cully + Pick 18
New York trade: Bachar Houli, Harley Balic + Brayden Fiorini
Votes: 4
Admin comments: Hmm. A few coaches made mention of this trade and in some eyes felt the late pick upgrade stopped it from being neg worthy. Houli last year matched $cully this year in scoring.... but I suppose $cully is on the up and is younger... for arguments sake, I'll take NY's word for it and say $cully is a little > than Houli. Balic & Fiorini were WXV picks 19 & 20 last year, so I'll be generous and say Pick 18 = Fiorini. Does Balic = that difference between Houli & $cully? I'd say Balic > difference. I have a feeling this trade was agreed upon weeks ago, before Fiorini had those great two games, which sparked the late pick upgrade. But this is an example of why you don't agree to a trade before the trade period opens :P. I personally don't like the trade, but enough to overturn the PASS decision to a REJECTION? Probably not. As much as it pains me, I can see how that $cully valuation came to be, so I'll give the coaches the benefit of the doubt.
Verdict: PASS

Trade 9
New York trade: Nakia Cockatoo, Nathan Hrovat + Pick 33
Cape Town trade: Dom Tyson + Pick 44
Votes: 3
Admin comments: Aw, Tyson 103 average from last 6 weeks and starting to step into elite category IRL in second half of year... lucky it didn't get to 4 votes IMO, as I'm not a fan.  Pressure on Cockatoo to perform!
Verdict: PASS

Trade 10
PNL trade: Zachary Williams, Billy Stretch, Pick 15 + Pick 70
Tokyo trade: Paddy Ryder, Pick 4 + Pick 41
Votes: 3
Admin comments: Valuable components in this trade. I actually quite like it despite some coaches feeling Tokyo is overpaying. 
Verdict: PASS

Trade 11
Christchurch trade: Shaun McKernan
Rio de Janeiro trade: Pick 56
Votes: 0
Admin comments: Hehe.
Verdict: PASS
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on September 03, 2016, 10:23:03 PM
Ok.

So Robbie Gray MIGHT be for sale.

Offers via PM please.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Hellopplz on September 03, 2016, 11:53:17 PM
Weren't you offering him up a few weeks ago? :P. He's as good as gone this period I reckon as he seems disgruntled on Moscow's plans for his future.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on September 03, 2016, 11:54:29 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on September 03, 2016, 11:53:17 PM
Weren't you offering him up a few weeks ago? :P. He's as good as gone this period I reckon as he seems disgruntled on Moscow's plans for his future.
He was :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 03, 2016, 11:58:34 PM
Torp has been shopping around most of their guns already, but does he have the stones to actually agree to a deal and trade?  :P

Ima say probably not, because he wants too much :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on September 04, 2016, 12:17:35 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 03, 2016, 11:58:34 PM
Torp has been shopping around most of their guns already, but does he have the stones to actually agree to a deal and trade?  :P

Ima say probably not, because he wants too much :P
Is that like when you guys rejected the first Ward deal because I wanted too much there?

Please.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Hellopplz on September 04, 2016, 12:40:32 AM
Justin Westhoff is looking towards a move to help his Premiership chances before his career is out. PNL are shocked at the announcement of his lack of faith in the club, especially his close friend Matthew Lobbe.

We went to Matthew for a comment, but he needed 5 minutes to compose himself.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: fanTCfool on September 04, 2016, 12:46:18 AM
Love the reference
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 04, 2016, 01:48:38 AM
Alright, we're looking pretty solid and bat deep now in both the mids and def, so we're looking for a starting forward and have the picks and players to pay up for one

If you've got a starting forward, hit me up
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on September 04, 2016, 11:28:42 AM
Quote from: Hellopplz on September 04, 2016, 12:40:32 AM
We went to Matthew for a comment, but he needed 5 minutes to compose himself.

This makes me happy.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Nige on September 04, 2016, 11:33:16 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 04, 2016, 11:28:42 AM
Quote from: Hellopplz on September 04, 2016, 12:40:32 AM
We went to Matthew for a comment, but he needed 5 minutes to compose himself.

This makes me happy.
I genuinely laughed out loud hahaha.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: upthemaidens on September 04, 2016, 01:56:52 PM
Just a heads-up, the last trade between Berlin and Dublin has #72 included, Dublin used that pick already in an earlier trade..
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: ossie85 on September 04, 2016, 02:43:53 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on September 04, 2016, 01:56:52 PM
Just a heads-up, the last trade between Berlin and Dublin has #72 included, Dublin used that pick already in an earlier trade..

I'll tell that to him now... he's about to get in a car with me
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 04, 2016, 02:47:35 PM
Typical Holz.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 04, 2016, 03:03:05 PM
I'll be on chat now for a bit if anyone wants to talk trades :)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on September 04, 2016, 04:01:48 PM
Oh right, Tom Hickey could be on his way out so if you dont have a ruck or want a better one could be your last chance :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: My Chumps on September 04, 2016, 05:07:04 PM
Certainly wasn't planing on trading this guy but Blake Acres may be on his way out of Cape Town if anyone wants to put in some last ditch offers!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Nige on September 04, 2016, 05:09:27 PM
Jeepers.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on September 04, 2016, 06:48:19 PM
Thread updated :)

WXV Player Lists & Draft Order (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,108063.0.html)

And a spreadsheet that I hope you'll find handy... it's one of mine  ;)

WXV Trade Centre (http://jmp.sh/g3v7gq1)

^^ Haven't tried this site before... be sure to click download button on top right of screen. Hopefully it works!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 05, 2016, 12:14:50 PM
Sam Gilbert
Nathan Wilson
Corey Ellis
Daniel McKenzie
Sean Dempster
Alex Silvagni
DVR
Jeremy Finlayson
Jack Trengove
Alex Neal-Bullen
Mason Cox
Ivan Soldo
Jeff Garlett
Clay Smith
Ryan Lester
Jed Anderson
Tory Dickson
Aaron Vandenberg
44

I need to reduce my list size by 5 so I'm open to trading 2 or more of these guys for one player or pick. Ideally it'll be 44 + Silvagni for 30 something to spare me from the lowball offers for the good players.

I may be open to packaging one/some with a starter like Mitchell for a player just as good but younger.
Title: Re: WXV Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on September 05, 2016, 12:24:22 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 02, 2016, 07:27:05 PM
NDT now taking the best pick offer for SUPERSTAR SIMON WHITE

With a high of 113 this season, and some healthy scores of 86, 80, 79, 78 and 78, this gun could be your ultimate FWD/DEF swingman.

Get in quick!
75ave over last 7 games of year.  Very handy depth defender (possibly D4)

Will take best pick offered
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: ossie85 on September 05, 2016, 12:46:23 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 05, 2016, 12:14:50 PM
Jack Trengove
Alex Neal-Bullen
Jeff Garlett

Purps will trade you any non-Melbourne player, including Fyfe, for these.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on September 05, 2016, 12:51:37 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 05, 2016, 12:46:23 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 05, 2016, 12:14:50 PM
Jack Trengove
Alex Neal-Bullen
Jeff Garlett

Purps will trade you any non-Melbourne player, including Fyfe, for these.

I'll point out that I didn't trade in any melbourne players last year :P

But Nibbler is quality  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on September 05, 2016, 12:55:49 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 05, 2016, 12:51:37 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 05, 2016, 12:46:23 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 05, 2016, 12:14:50 PM
Jack Trengove
Alex Neal-Bullen
Jeff Garlett

Purps will trade you any non-Melbourne player, including Fyfe, for these.

I'll point out that I didn't trade in any melbourne players last year :P

But Nibbler is quality  ;)

but you drafted one :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: ossie85 on September 05, 2016, 01:00:22 PM
Biggest (top 10) value players to be moved this trade period (officially):

$567k Kieran Jack (New Delhi to Dublin)
$531k Marc Murphy (Dublin to New Delhi)
$443k Bachar Houli (New York to New Delhi)
$433k Dom Tyson (Cape Town to New York)
$432k Jack Newnes (Seoul to Cairo)
$419k Paddy Ryder (Tokyo to PNL)
$415k Tom Scully (New York to New Delhi)
$374k Shaun Higgins (Cairo to Christchurch)
$299k Koby Stevens (Christchurch to Cairo)
$294k Zachary Williams (PNL to Tokyo)

Nothing really huge right now!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on September 05, 2016, 01:06:11 PM
Quote from: iZander on September 05, 2016, 12:55:49 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 05, 2016, 12:51:37 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 05, 2016, 12:46:23 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 05, 2016, 12:14:50 PM
Jack Trengove
Alex Neal-Bullen
Jeff Garlett

Purps will trade you any non-Melbourne player, including Fyfe, for these.

I'll point out that I didn't trade in any melbourne players last year :P

But Nibbler is quality  ;)

but you drafted one :P

Awww whatever haha, sue me for completing my Melbourne ruck set :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 05, 2016, 01:39:40 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 05, 2016, 12:46:23 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 05, 2016, 12:14:50 PM
Jack Trengove
Alex Neal-Bullen
Jeff Garlett

Purps will trade you any non-Melbourne player, including Fyfe, for these.

Vandenberg added to the tradable list.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 05, 2016, 01:52:15 PM
M: Lewis (30), Duncan (25), Scully (25), Hill (26)
I: Tyson (23), Grigg (28)

Mostly young starting mids, and we are open to trading one for a prem forward (or ruck)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 05, 2016, 02:43:47 PM
Also, Scott D Thompson and Liam Picken, both only 30 and are available for a pick

SDT is quite handy bench cover to have when you're down a defender

Picken can start on the interchange in most teams, and is good cover too

Roughly what we're after for them:

Picken - 2nd round pick
SDT - 3rd round pick
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 05, 2016, 07:15:38 PM
Alright, so we've already had 5-6 bids on Picken lol

Clearly we might be giving him away with that much interest haha, so we're going to sit tight with him for now because we think he is a chance of getting DPP next year so we will wait to see on his 2017 position before trading him for a pick

Thanks for all the interest, and we will get back to those who showed interest later in the year once positions become available

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 05, 2016, 08:30:01 PM
If only you had advertised that you were giving away Balic and Fiorini.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 05, 2016, 08:38:09 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 05, 2016, 08:30:01 PM
If only you had advertised that you were giving away Balic and Fiorini.

Since when did we have to advertise? People can always ask about our players :)

Balic meh, but Fiorini  :'(
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 05, 2016, 08:40:54 PM
You don't have to, but it's the best way to maximise your potential of getting something good.

Nathan Wilson is up for trade. Anyone? Anyone? Beuller?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 05, 2016, 08:44:27 PM
Yeah fair point, and we know that - but we're happy with what we got for him. Not a lot of 25 year old 95-100 mids on the market

As for Wilson, you seem to be really struggling to get rid of him haha
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: elephants on September 05, 2016, 08:49:49 PM
We'll give our last pick for Wilson. If there's no publically advance on this we'll consider him a Tiger tomorrow.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 05, 2016, 08:56:06 PM
I dunno why, he averaged 74.3 in the first 13 weeks. Injured himself so that game was a write off, looked shower in his first game back. Hasn't looked that impressive upon return but he's a certainty to average 70 next year, and has rock solid JS. #1 in the league for long kicks, and what's going to happen when 31 year old Shaw moves on? Will Wilson get more or less of the kicks out of defense? Hmm.

Screw it. Hartlett up for trade instead. Wilson can be my D4. Will take a midfielder or a pick.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: MajorLazer on September 05, 2016, 09:15:46 PM
After bringing in some new faces, we've kinda made the call that a few of our more established guys can be moved on. Cairo have Pearce Hanley and Luke Dunstan on the block for forwards or defenders. If you have any interest chuck one of us coaches a pm or whatever and let us know.

Cheers fam.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 05, 2016, 09:19:03 PM
Cairo trading out midfielders. Crazy times.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: MajorLazer on September 05, 2016, 09:21:16 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 05, 2016, 09:19:03 PM
Cairo trading out midfielders. Crazy times.
yes chef we gon crazy
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on September 05, 2016, 11:54:38 PM
Levi Greenwood could very well go for a pick, or player + pick combo.

Get your offers in!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 06, 2016, 09:57:07 AM
Are there any teams that are keen on getting first round picks?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 06, 2016, 11:00:37 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 06, 2016, 09:57:07 AM
Are there any teams that are keen on getting first round picks?

Sort of.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on September 06, 2016, 11:01:42 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 06, 2016, 09:57:07 AM
Are there any teams that are keen on getting first round picks?

depends what you want for those picks. im keen but at what cost,.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 06, 2016, 11:12:28 AM
Well we have two first rounders - Picks 14 and 18

Just curious if someone would offer up a good player for both of those picks

Happy to take them to the draft or use them in separate deals, but wondering if we could land a starter by packaging them
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 06, 2016, 12:53:44 PM
LOL @ Holz decline

haha  :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 06, 2016, 01:33:55 PM
Jack Silvagni is a 3rd generation player and his ancestors were nothing short of superstars. The future is bright for this young gun in the making.

I'm willing to trade Silvagni for the right deal.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on September 06, 2016, 01:35:46 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 06, 2016, 01:33:55 PM
Jack Silvagni is a 3rd generation player and his ancestors were nothing short of superstars. The future is bright for this young gun in the making.

I'm willing to trade Silvagni for the right deal.

Im really confused, i thought Jack Silvagni was on Holz list? You have Alex Silvagni though?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Nige on September 06, 2016, 01:36:25 PM
Quote from: iZander on September 06, 2016, 01:35:46 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 06, 2016, 01:33:55 PM
Jack Silvagni is a 3rd generation player and his ancestors were nothing short of superstars. The future is bright for this young gun in the making.

I'm willing to trade Silvagni for the right deal.

Im really confused, i thought Jack Silvagni was on Holz list? You have Alex Silvagni though?
Exactly.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on September 06, 2016, 01:37:29 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 06, 2016, 01:36:25 PM
Quote from: iZander on September 06, 2016, 01:35:46 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 06, 2016, 01:33:55 PM
Jack Silvagni is a 3rd generation player and his ancestors were nothing short of superstars. The future is bright for this young gun in the making.

I'm willing to trade Silvagni for the right deal.

Im really confused, i thought Jack Silvagni was on Holz list? You have Alex Silvagni though?
Exactly.
Gee Meow is going to hate the fact that he is promoting Holz's players :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 06, 2016, 01:43:56 PM
The joke

iZander's head
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on September 06, 2016, 01:45:38 PM
hahaha
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 06, 2016, 01:56:27 PM
LOL!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on September 06, 2016, 02:39:49 PM
Quote from: iZander on September 06, 2016, 01:37:29 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 06, 2016, 01:36:25 PM
Quote from: iZander on September 06, 2016, 01:35:46 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 06, 2016, 01:33:55 PM
Jack Silvagni is a 3rd generation player and his ancestors were nothing short of superstars. The future is bright for this young gun in the making.

I'm willing to trade Silvagni for the right deal.

Im really confused, i thought Jack Silvagni was on Holz list? You have Alex Silvagni though?
Exactly.
Gee Meow is going to hate the fact that he is promoting Holz's players :P

He is saying I pump up my players to sell them.

which is pretty untrue, i pump them up but thats because i like them. Everyone is avilable for the right price i even had a deal for Todd Goldstein last year. Nobody on any list should be untradeable, every player has a price.

Have pumped up Omac Weits Williams in defence quite abit, still on my list. Same for Matt Kennedy up front.

and while we are on the topic of Silvagni,

3rd generation does mean something, he does have a extra advantage because of the name, he pretty much got picked up for it and everyone is suprised how well he is actually doing. I need forwards so im more then happy to keep him on my list.

I think the reason Zander didnt get the joke is everything you said Meow is true, not sure on the Gun part thats your words not mine. :P  he has the potential to be a solid cover so ill take that.

also Meow king of pump up.

Heard quite abit about Wilson the last few weeks.

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on September 06, 2016, 03:43:54 PM
Lol meow!




Alright, with this weird trade period being so quite, I've decided to send out a vote once 5 trades accumulate.

But I reserve the right to change my mind :P

I'll send out the vote now.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on September 06, 2016, 03:52:40 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 06, 2016, 03:43:54 PM
Alright, with this weird trade period being so quite, I've decided to send out a vote once 5 trades accumulate.
Good idea mate :)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 06, 2016, 04:47:55 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 06, 2016, 03:43:54 PM
with this weird trade period being so quite

What the hell is going on around here??!!

We need way more trade action  8)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on September 06, 2016, 04:55:08 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 06, 2016, 04:47:55 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 06, 2016, 03:43:54 PM
with this weird trade period being so quite

What the hell is going on around here??!!

We need way more trade action  8)
16 in the first week isn't toooo bad. About 10 more at the same point last year
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on September 06, 2016, 05:00:44 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 06, 2016, 04:55:08 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 06, 2016, 04:47:55 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 06, 2016, 03:43:54 PM
with this weird trade period being so quite

What the hell is going on around here??!!

We need way more trade action  8)
16 in the first week isn't toooo bad. About 10 more at the same point last year
Also, no new coaches this year. Coaches who have had a certain list for more than a year are probably less likely to make a lot of changes straight off the bat.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 06, 2016, 05:07:07 PM
Seoul have picks 9 + 10 we're open to trading for a premo
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 06, 2016, 06:22:34 PM
Seoul trade: 9 & 11 (not 10)
Seoul receive: Hamish Hartlett & 44

NDT trade: Fiorini
NDT receive: 9

Pacific trade: Witts
Pacific receive: 11

Christchurch trade: Hartlett and 44
Christchurch receive: Fiorini and Witts


Somebody post it up.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 06, 2016, 06:29:30 PM
Yeah good luck with that :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 06, 2016, 06:32:59 PM
Thanks!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 06, 2016, 06:39:50 PM
New York trade: 14 & 18
New York receive: Hamish Hartlett & 44

NDT trade: Fiorini
NDT receive: 14

Pacific trade: Witts
Pacific receive: 18

Christchurch trade: Hartlett and 44
Christchurch receive: Fiorini and Witts

That's better ;)

And fairer too!  8)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: elephants on September 06, 2016, 06:42:35 PM
We wouldn't do Fiorini for N9, let alone N14 :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 06, 2016, 06:47:43 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 06, 2016, 06:42:35 PM
We wouldn't do Fiorini for N9, let alone N14 :P

Don't blame you!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 06, 2016, 06:50:21 PM
Seoul trade: pick 11
Seoul receive: pick 14 & 18

New York trade: 14 & 18
New York receive: pick 11


Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on September 06, 2016, 06:52:05 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 06, 2016, 06:47:43 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 06, 2016, 06:42:35 PM
We wouldn't do Fiorini for N9, let alone N14 :P
Don't blame you!
lol
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 06, 2016, 06:54:43 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 06, 2016, 06:50:21 PM
Seoul trade: pick 11
Seoul receive: pick 14 & 18

New York trade: 14 & 18
New York receive: pick 11

Um no

Quote from: iZander on September 06, 2016, 06:52:05 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 06, 2016, 06:47:43 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 06, 2016, 06:42:35 PM
We wouldn't do Fiorini for N9, let alone N14 :P
Don't blame you!
lol

I didn't want to trade Fiorini - believe me, but sometimes you need do things like that for the better good

A lot more teams should realise that :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on September 06, 2016, 07:12:40 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 06, 2016, 06:54:43 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 06, 2016, 06:50:21 PM
Seoul trade: pick 11
Seoul receive: pick 14 & 18

New York trade: 14 & 18
New York receive: pick 11

Um no

Quote from: iZander on September 06, 2016, 06:52:05 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 06, 2016, 06:47:43 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 06, 2016, 06:42:35 PM
We wouldn't do Fiorini for N9, let alone N14 :P
Don't blame you!
lol

I didn't want to trade Fiorini - believe me, but sometimes you need do things like that for the better good

A lot more teams should realise that :P

Agree

Teams downgrade a starter then ill give you a pick below the value of a young gun

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 06, 2016, 09:34:57 PM
Mason Cox + 44 to be traded, hopefully for a pick.

Cox alone is worth a 2nd rounder (this draft sucks FYI). His JS is somewhat decent, and with Cloke departing it should improve. Hasn't reached his apogee as a player yet either.

Don't PM me, just put your offer forward here. I'll be doing all my negotiating in this thread from now on.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 06, 2016, 09:42:37 PM
That is if Pacific don't accept my offer that I've given them involving Hartlett (44 is included)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on September 07, 2016, 05:25:58 PM
And you guys thought the Buddy trade was big
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Nige on September 07, 2016, 05:28:35 PM
Quote from: GoLions on September 07, 2016, 05:25:58 PM
And you guys thought the Buddy trade was big
I believe a Cairene (not me, don't worry) once famously said "big dick, big trades." Such wisdom I tell ya.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 07, 2016, 05:33:48 PM
With the severe lack of forwards available, I'm floating Jesse White for sale

Yeah he's a spud, but with Cloke more or less gone he will be playing every week

He's actually not that bad for SC too - he averaged 74 this year which is pretty reasonable for a F4, and scored 70+ in a lot of games

If you're interested, shoot me an offer
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Adamant on September 07, 2016, 07:39:39 PM
Jack Ziebell could be on the table for a lesser mid + a pick or young player I like.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Hellopplz on September 07, 2016, 08:18:18 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 07, 2016, 05:17:06 PM
Berlin trade: William Hams
Cairo trade: Tom Cole

Like the look of Cole, and I reckon he'll match the awesomeness that is Hams future (whom is destined to out-average all PNL players). Therefore, Cole will out-average PNL.

Flowering Purps >:(. Flowering Golds >:(.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Nige on September 07, 2016, 09:18:56 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on September 07, 2016, 08:18:18 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 07, 2016, 05:17:06 PM
Berlin trade: William Hams
Cairo trade: Tom Cole

Like the look of Cole, and I reckon he'll match the awesomeness that is Hams future (whom is destined to out-average all PNL players). Therefore, Cole will out-average PNL.

Flowering Purps >:(. Flowering Golds >:(.
Steamed Hams on sale at Cairo.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Hellopplz on September 07, 2016, 09:21:17 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 07, 2016, 09:18:56 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on September 07, 2016, 08:18:18 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 07, 2016, 05:17:06 PM
Berlin trade: William Hams
Cairo trade: Tom Cole

Like the look of Cole, and I reckon he'll match the awesomeness that is Hams future (whom is destined to out-average all PNL players). Therefore, Cole will out-average PNL.
Flowering Purps >:(. Flowering Golds >:(.
Steamed Hams on sale at Cairo.
Is that what you call burgers?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Nige on September 07, 2016, 09:27:55 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on September 07, 2016, 09:21:17 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 07, 2016, 09:18:56 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on September 07, 2016, 08:18:18 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 07, 2016, 05:17:06 PM
Berlin trade: William Hams
Cairo trade: Tom Cole

Like the look of Cole, and I reckon he'll match the awesomeness that is Hams future (whom is destined to out-average all PNL players). Therefore, Cole will out-average PNL.
Flowering Purps >:(. Flowering Golds >:(.
Steamed Hams on sale at Cairo.
Is that what you call burgers?
Nah, no Leuenberger at Cairo.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on September 08, 2016, 09:45:49 AM
Quote from: Hellopplz on September 07, 2016, 09:21:17 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 07, 2016, 09:18:56 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on September 07, 2016, 08:18:18 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 07, 2016, 05:17:06 PM
Berlin trade: William Hams
Cairo trade: Tom Cole

Like the look of Cole, and I reckon he'll match the awesomeness that is Hams future (whom is destined to out-average all PNL players). Therefore, Cole will out-average PNL.
Flowering Purps >:(. Flowering Golds >:(.
Steamed Hams on sale at Cairo.
Is that what you call burgers?

Haha, brilliant  :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on September 08, 2016, 10:47:59 AM
clubs circling NDS.

would be huge as I think he could get DPP.

would mean im certainly selling backs.

NDS Birchall Rance Yarran - Grundy (75 average) Weits Omac Jetta Hansen Byrne
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on September 08, 2016, 10:52:04 AM
Just 4 coaches left to vote, after 12 in the first 4 hours voted :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on September 08, 2016, 11:01:24 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 08, 2016, 10:52:04 AM
Just 4 coaches left to vote, after 12 in the first 4 hours voted :P

any updates on how people are voting?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on September 08, 2016, 11:19:45 AM
Quote from: Holz on September 08, 2016, 11:01:24 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 08, 2016, 10:52:04 AM
Just 4 coaches left to vote, after 12 in the first 4 hours voted :P

any updates on how people are voting?

Nope! :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on September 08, 2016, 11:24:06 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 08, 2016, 11:19:45 AM
Quote from: Holz on September 08, 2016, 11:01:24 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 08, 2016, 10:52:04 AM
Just 4 coaches left to vote, after 12 in the first 4 hours voted :P

any updates on how people are voting?

Nope! :P

Rumour has it all your trades are being rejected Holz :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on September 08, 2016, 11:27:08 AM
Quote from: iZander on September 08, 2016, 11:24:06 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 08, 2016, 11:19:45 AM
Quote from: Holz on September 08, 2016, 11:01:24 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 08, 2016, 10:52:04 AM
Just 4 coaches left to vote, after 12 in the first 4 hours voted :P

any updates on how people are voting?

Nope! :P

Rumour has it all your trades are being rejected Holz :P
And also water is wet
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: DazBurg on September 08, 2016, 11:27:29 AM
Sorry we are one of the group that haven't voted I'll try to talk to HP
I'm currently away atm
Was going to talk last night then my daughter ripped a gash and needed 4 stiches 5 hours at the hospital
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Nige on September 08, 2016, 11:28:57 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 08, 2016, 11:27:08 AM
Quote from: iZander on September 08, 2016, 11:24:06 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 08, 2016, 11:19:45 AM
Quote from: Holz on September 08, 2016, 11:01:24 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 08, 2016, 10:52:04 AM
Just 4 coaches left to vote, after 12 in the first 4 hours voted :P

any updates on how people are voting?

Nope! :P

Rumour has it all your trades are being rejected Holz :P
And also water is wet
Fuark, this changes everything. My whole life is a lie.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on September 08, 2016, 11:38:05 AM
Quote from: Nige on September 08, 2016, 11:28:57 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 08, 2016, 11:27:08 AM
Quote from: iZander on September 08, 2016, 11:24:06 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 08, 2016, 11:19:45 AM
Quote from: Holz on September 08, 2016, 11:01:24 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 08, 2016, 10:52:04 AM
Just 4 coaches left to vote, after 12 in the first 4 hours voted :P

any updates on how people are voting?

Nope! :P

Rumour has it all your trades are being rejected Holz :P
And also water is wet
Fuark, this changes everything. My whole life is a lie.

Water actually isnt Wet.

Wet: is a verb when something is covered in Water or another Liquid.

Also Dublin hasn't received a vote against yet.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: ossie85 on September 08, 2016, 11:54:57 AM
Quote from: DazBurg on September 08, 2016, 11:27:29 AM
Sorry we are one of the group that haven't voted I'll try to talk to HP
I'm currently away atm
Was going to talk last night then my daughter ripped a gash and needed 4 stiches 5 hours at the hospital

Sorry to hear Daz, what happened?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: DazBurg on September 08, 2016, 12:03:27 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 08, 2016, 11:54:57 AM
Quote from: DazBurg on September 08, 2016, 11:27:29 AM
Sorry we are one of the group that haven't voted I'll try to talk to HP
I'm currently away atm
Was going to talk last night then my daughter ripped a gash and needed 4 stiches 5 hours at the hospital

Sorry to hear Daz, what happened?
Staying in the cabin she went to run into our room hit the sliding door and hit the corner of the wooden base
Nice gash just under the knee nice puddle of blood and 4 stiches and 3:20 am finish
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on September 08, 2016, 01:24:11 PM
Just a bit of an update on NDT boys that have come up in trade talks



Mitch Wallis: Obviously his injury has hurt his value a little bit but if we compare him to a 1st or 2nd year player for a sec, they may take 3-4+ years to breakout, and most likely won't be a start in your best XV in that time. But with Mitch you get a proven 98+ scorer in 12months time. Barlow's injury was similar and he returned exactly 12months later with scores of 69 (98DT), 21 (started as sub, on in last Q), 101, 120, 112, 109, 88, 81 and 52 (destroyed by Cross). So for a year of sitting on the sideline (which a kid would anyway), there's huge reward for the 10 years after.


Stephen Coniglio: Superstar. Gun. Reliable Captain Option. Lovechild. Conigs isn't off limits. If we were to trade him though it would need to be
- 27-30yr old averaging similar  + upgrade kid to starter elsewhere OR
- 20<26yr old averaging 100ish  + upgrade kid to starter elsewhere
something like that


Darcy Tucker: Not moveable #betterthanFyfe


Daniel Rich: 85ave this year. 96ave in the last 6 games. Will only get better when Beams returns, giving him more protection in the middle, and Brissie sort their shower out (oh and as you don't start him against North when Jacobs is playing :P ). Could push 95-100. Perfect for a starting spot.


Stef Martin; Obviously had a down year and concussion rocked him for a while. But still averaged 106.5 from round 12 annnnd was a beast when we needed him to make finals. If he moves, a ruck will need to be involved. But he's not unmovable.


Zac Clarke: Hurt his knee early last year at Falls Festival. Re-hurt it again earlier this year. Like Lycett, he can play with it but struggles to run. A cleanup and a full preseason will see him return to some decent form. Has posted 96ave and 88ave before. New club and a fresh start will only do him wonders as well.


Simon White: 75ave over last 7 games. Healthy scores of 113, 96, 70, 79, 78 and 78. Great F4/D4 / depth. Will take best pick offered.


Tommy Bugg: Actually a decent chance to stay a defender in 2017 after playing a lot of the second half down there. 9 from his 18 games were in defence
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on September 08, 2016, 02:12:30 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 08, 2016, 01:24:11 PM

Darcy Tucker: Not moveable #betterthanFyfe


Fyfe a Scrub.

Ben Cunnington has outscored him the last 3 years.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: elephants on September 08, 2016, 02:15:10 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 08, 2016, 02:12:30 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 08, 2016, 01:24:11 PM

Darcy Tucker: Not moveable #betterthanFyfe


Fyfe a Scrub.

Ben Cunnington has outscored him the last 3 years.

Show some respect mate. Being the first girl to win the brownlow is a big achievement.

(http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/6811682-3x2-700x467.jpg)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on September 08, 2016, 02:19:49 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 08, 2016, 02:15:10 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 08, 2016, 02:12:30 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 08, 2016, 01:24:11 PM

Darcy Tucker: Not moveable #betterthanFyfe


Fyfe a Scrub.

Ben Cunnington has outscored him the last 3 years.

Show some respect mate. Being the first girl to win the brownlow is a big achievement.

(http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/6811682-3x2-700x467.jpg)

Brownlow kinda loses the shine when this happend.

(https://proxy.bigfooty.com/forum/proxy.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fl.yimg.com%2Fea%2Fimg%2F-%2F100920%2Fshane_woewodin_2000_169e1el-169e1h7.jpg%3Fx%3D390%26q%3D80%26n%3D1%26sig%3DE_KCjGwX38vBrZXtBLLdcg--&hash=2443ccf7f693106f7b232b7c7a8eda81)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Nige on September 08, 2016, 02:27:14 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 08, 2016, 02:19:49 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 08, 2016, 02:15:10 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 08, 2016, 02:12:30 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 08, 2016, 01:24:11 PM

Darcy Tucker: Not moveable #betterthanFyfe


Fyfe a Scrub.

Ben Cunnington has outscored him the last 3 years.

Show some respect mate. Being the first girl to win the brownlow is a big achievement.

(http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/6811682-3x2-700x467.jpg)

Brownlow kinda loses the shine when this happend.

(https://proxy.bigfooty.com/forum/proxy.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fl.yimg.com%2Fea%2Fimg%2F-%2F100920%2Fshane_woewodin_2000_169e1el-169e1h7.jpg%3Fx%3D390%26q%3D80%26n%3D1%26sig%3DE_KCjGwX38vBrZXtBLLdcg--&hash=2443ccf7f693106f7b232b7c7a8eda81)
But then this happened and made everything right in the world again:

(http://www.droppunt.com/images/2008-Brownlow-Medal/adam-cooney-brownlow.jpg)

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Jukes on September 08, 2016, 02:29:07 PM
I'd make a joke about the North Brownlow medallists in the last 30 years, but that would be a bit difficult for obvious reasons...
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 08, 2016, 02:31:59 PM
Jeff Garlett, the man who has kicked the 250th most AFL/VFL goals in history can move for a pick in the 30's. Jeffy had a pretty average year but has four 70+ seasons under his belt including a 78. Plays every week. Still has four seasons left in him. Melbourne improving = more goals.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on September 08, 2016, 02:44:35 PM
Quote from: Jukes on September 08, 2016, 02:29:07 PM
I'd make a joke about the North Brownlow medallists in the last 30 years, but that would be a bit difficult for obvious reasons...

agreed, much beter to have a balanced side where no real standout, too many guys stealing votes.

which is shown in a player for North in the last 30 years (Carey) beter then anyone who has ever played in a Essendon Jumper in the history of that club never winning one. Who also has as many premierships as the essnedon football club in the last 30 years.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on September 08, 2016, 02:45:29 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 08, 2016, 02:44:35 PM
Quote from: Jukes on September 08, 2016, 02:29:07 PM
I'd make a joke about the North Brownlow medallists in the last 30 years, but that would be a bit difficult for obvious reasons...

agreed, much beter to have a balanced side where no real standout, too many guys stealing votes.

which is shown in a player for North in the last 30 years (Carey) beter then anyone who has ever played in a Essendon Jumper in the history of that club never winning one. Who also has as many premierships as the essnedon football club in the last 30 years.

But Essendon dont have Tipppppaaaaaa
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 08, 2016, 02:46:54 PM
And we have one bid in already from a very intelligent coach. Draft picks often result in nothing, you'll get a guaranteed return on Buddy's cousin.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on September 08, 2016, 02:48:17 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 08, 2016, 02:46:54 PM
And we have one bid in already from a very intelligent coach. Draft picks often result in nothing, you'll get a guaranteed return on Buddy's cousin.

i thought you didnt take PMs for offers? i havent seen a bid on this page yet.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 08, 2016, 02:48:32 PM
Carey cost the all stars the match, dunno how you can say he's good.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 08, 2016, 02:49:34 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 08, 2016, 02:48:17 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 08, 2016, 02:46:54 PM
And we have one bid in already from a very intelligent coach. Draft picks often result in nothing, you'll get a guaranteed return on Buddy's cousin.

i thought you didnt take PMs for offers? i havent seen a bid on this page yet.

Yeah I just made that up.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: elephants on September 08, 2016, 02:51:19 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 08, 2016, 02:46:54 PM
And we have one bid in already from a very intelligent coach. Draft picks often result in nothing, you'll get a guaranteed return on Buddy's cousin.

Gotta be worth a pick in the 30s on its own? The fact the bloke can play is a bonus
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 08, 2016, 02:54:51 PM
Jeff was homeless before he was an AFL player. His junior coach used to feed him before training. Slept in his car. Inspirational player this one.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 08, 2016, 03:13:26 PM
LOL I love your approach with pumping up your guys meow - random facts really make it a good read!

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: elephants on September 08, 2016, 03:22:53 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 08, 2016, 02:54:51 PM
Jeff was homeless before he was an AFL player. His junior coach used to feed him before training. Slept in his car. Inspirational player this one.

Pretty mental story actually, taken in by Andrew Embley's parents.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: upthemaidens on September 08, 2016, 03:28:16 PM
Ben Howlett 28yo 76avg. Fwd   A starter for some clubs, a solid F5/6 for others.
   Plus Jed Lamb 25yo 56avg. Fwd   Played 15 games this year, scored a couple of 90s.  Plus pick#68 and PSD#13.

This complete Forward package all for the one low low price of an  80+avg Mid (85+ if over 30yo).
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on September 08, 2016, 03:31:34 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on September 08, 2016, 03:28:16 PM
Ben Howlett 28yo 76avg. Fwd   A starter for some clubs, a solid F5/6 for others.
   Plus Jed Lamb 25yo 56avg. Fwd   Played 15 games this year, scored a couple of 90s.  Plus pick#68 and PSD#13.

This complete Forward package all for the one low low price of an  80+avg Mid (85+ if over 30yo).

Lewis Jetta was a 80+ mid last year.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: elephants on September 08, 2016, 03:33:49 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 08, 2016, 03:31:34 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on September 08, 2016, 03:28:16 PM
Ben Howlett 28yo 76avg. Fwd   A starter for some clubs, a solid F5/6 for others.
   Plus Jed Lamb 25yo 56avg. Fwd   Played 15 games this year, scored a couple of 90s.  Plus pick#68 and PSD#13.

This complete Forward package all for the one low low price of an  80+avg Mid (85+ if over 30yo).

Lewis Jetta was a 80+ mid last year.

Wish he was playing tonight, starting to look the goods
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 08, 2016, 03:42:56 PM
Garlett is also the nephew of Neon Leon, who peaked right at the end of his career. Jeffrey about to do the same.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on September 08, 2016, 03:48:22 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 08, 2016, 03:42:56 PM
Garlett is also the nephew of Neon Leon, who peaked right at the end of his career. Jeffrey about to do the same.

and apparently im the guy who pumps up my players.

At least my guys are good :P

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on September 08, 2016, 03:49:16 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 08, 2016, 03:48:22 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 08, 2016, 03:42:56 PM
Garlett is also the nephew of Neon Leon, who peaked right at the end of his career. Jeffrey about to do the same.

and apparently im the guy who pumps up my players.

At least my guys are good :P
Not the ones you hype!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on September 08, 2016, 03:52:18 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 08, 2016, 03:49:16 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 08, 2016, 03:48:22 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 08, 2016, 03:42:56 PM
Garlett is also the nephew of Neon Leon, who peaked right at the end of his career. Jeffrey about to do the same.

and apparently im the guy who pumps up my players.

At least my guys are good :P
Not the ones you hype!

gee I thought Treloar Goldy Gunston Rance Weits Kennedy  where ok players.

Silvagni, Omac, William, Turner i can hype all i want end of the day they arent moving unless its for another guy i really like for example Shaz.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 08, 2016, 03:56:00 PM
Garlett averaged 100.5 from the first ten games one year. Haven't seen Scharenberg do anything like that,  in fact all I've seen him do is his acl. Jeffy gets it done while these other chumps get by on potential and "will be a gun" for their whole careers.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on September 08, 2016, 03:59:19 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 08, 2016, 03:56:00 PM
Garlett averaged 100.5 from the first ten games one year. Haven't seen Scharenberg do anything like that,  in fact all I've seen him do is his acl. Jeffy gets it done while these other chumps get by on potential and "will be a gun" for their whole careers.

Its better then getting by on "gee he was almost a semi decent player once, maybe he can do it again"

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 08, 2016, 04:03:03 PM
LOL, this convo is getting funny!  ;D

Quote from: upthemaidens on September 08, 2016, 03:28:16 PM
Ben Howlett 28yo 76avg. Fwd   A starter for some clubs, a solid F5/6 for others.
   Plus Jed Lamb 25yo 56avg. Fwd   Played 15 games this year, scored a couple of 90s.  Plus pick#68 and PSD#13.

This complete Forward package all for the one low low price of an  80+avg Mid (85+ if over 30yo).

So you basically want to get rid of all your junk for a player you can start on the interchange? Good Luck :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 08, 2016, 04:03:24 PM
Doing your acl isn't that impressive tbh.

250th best goal kicker of all time! Will rise to the top 200 by the time his career has finished. Semi decent? Pfft, Jeffy is a star and I should probably be asking for a premo mid in return.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 08, 2016, 04:04:26 PM
Alright, you've sold me!

Pick 56 for Jeff!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Nige on September 08, 2016, 04:05:59 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 08, 2016, 04:03:03 PM
LOL, this convo is getting funny!  ;D

Quote from: upthemaidens on September 08, 2016, 03:28:16 PM
Ben Howlett 28yo 76avg. Fwd   A starter for some clubs, a solid F5/6 for others.
   Plus Jed Lamb 25yo 56avg. Fwd   Played 15 games this year, scored a couple of 90s.  Plus pick#68 and PSD#13.

This complete Forward package all for the one low low price of an  80+avg Mid (85+ if over 30yo).

So you basically want to get rid of all your junk for a player you can start on the interchange? Good Luck :P
Probably one of the reasons Pacific haven't got a deal done yet.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on September 08, 2016, 04:07:51 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 08, 2016, 04:03:24 PM
Doing your acl isn't that impressive tbh.

250th best goal kicker of all time! Will rise to the top 200 by the time his career has finished. Semi decent? Pfft, Jeffy is a star and I should probably be asking for a premo mid in return.

Im talking about Super Coach not AFL.

If you want a premo mid then maybe Garlett for Ben Jacobs. Jacobs did a pretty great job of shutting players down last year so could be seen as a premo mid.


Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Nige on September 08, 2016, 04:11:03 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 08, 2016, 04:04:26 PM
Alright, you've sold me!

Pick 56 for Jeff!
Jeffy's better than that!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 08, 2016, 04:17:25 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 08, 2016, 04:04:26 PM
Alright, you've sold me!

Pick 56 for Jeff!

Already received an offer in the 30's. I was lying when I said I was lying.

https://youtu.be/kHULjJKVb78
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 08, 2016, 04:26:22 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 08, 2016, 04:11:03 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 08, 2016, 04:04:26 PM
Alright, you've sold me!

Pick 56 for Jeff!
Jeffy's better than that!

Yeah I know - we just don't have any picks in the 20-50 range  :-\
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: ossie85 on September 08, 2016, 04:27:50 PM

"This player is great! Please buy him from me" - every trader ever
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on September 08, 2016, 04:31:33 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 08, 2016, 04:27:50 PM

"This player is great! Please buy him from me" - every trader ever

I challenge that :P

In recent trades I have said Lewis Jetta is a scrub take him off my hands for cap reasons

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: elephants on September 08, 2016, 04:32:15 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 08, 2016, 04:27:50 PM

"This player is great! Please buy him from me" - every trader ever

Holz telling me Mitch Clark will play again in Euros :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on September 08, 2016, 04:38:39 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 08, 2016, 04:32:15 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 08, 2016, 04:27:50 PM

"This player is great! Please buy him from me" - every trader ever

Holz telling me Mitch Clark will play again in Euros :P

in fairness did I or did i not force you to take him in a deal. so basically he was a negative.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Nige on September 08, 2016, 04:40:05 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 08, 2016, 04:26:22 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 08, 2016, 04:11:03 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 08, 2016, 04:04:26 PM
Alright, you've sold me!

Pick 56 for Jeff!
Jeffy's better than that!

Yeah I know - we just don't have any picks in the 20-50 range  :-\
I was gonna offer you three picks in that range for the J-Pack but you only wanted Lobb and/or Gov, bad luck. :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: elephants on September 08, 2016, 04:40:46 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 08, 2016, 04:38:39 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 08, 2016, 04:32:15 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 08, 2016, 04:27:50 PM

"This player is great! Please buy him from me" - every trader ever

Holz telling me Mitch Clark will play again in Euros :P

in fairness did I or did i not force you to take him in a deal. so basically he was a negative.

hahaha yeah very true
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on September 08, 2016, 04:59:14 PM
3 coaches to go now, so the following trades (that have so far received 0 votes) will pass:

Trade 12
Dublin trade: Lance Franklin, Jarryd Roughead + Pick 55
Berlin trade: Brad Crouch, Pick 27 + Pick 45

Trade 13
Christchurch trade: Ben Reid + Pick 56
New York trade: Nathan Vardy, James Stewart + Pick 44

Trade 15
Moscow trade: Tyrone Vickery
Mexico City trade: George Hewett

Trade 16
New York trade: Scott D Thompson
Seoul trade: Ben McGlynn




The only one that is not yet decided is

Trade 14
Mexico City trade: Cameron Ellis-Yolmen + Sam Gray
London trade: Ben Cunnington + Pick 25
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on September 08, 2016, 05:05:10 PM
lets just say im shocked.

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on September 08, 2016, 05:11:11 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 08, 2016, 05:05:10 PM
lets just say im shocked.

Yep; Dublin maintains it's no-neg 2016  :-X

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 08, 2016, 05:18:03 PM
PSD #8 & #26 available. There's usually some quality available in the AFL rookies. I've got 44 players on my senior list as it is so can't use the picks at this stage.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 08, 2016, 05:21:54 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 08, 2016, 05:05:10 PM
lets just say im shocked.

I was shocked you did the deal, but we obviously passed it because on it's merits I guess it's fair, but I personally wouldn't have given up Bud and Rough for Crouch

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ringo on September 08, 2016, 05:23:46 PM
I'll take PSD 8 for Jong but need to play around with minimum cap.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 08, 2016, 05:25:00 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 08, 2016, 05:23:46 PM
I'll take PSD 8 for Jong but need to play around with minimum cap.

Surely you can get better than a PSD pick for Jong!  :o
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Nige on September 08, 2016, 06:49:03 PM
Pick 64 for Lin Jong is a good deal tbh.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 08, 2016, 06:51:12 PM
He meant as part of our deal for Jong. I need to cut my list, Ringo needs players/$$$ and we've been working on it for months! Clearly he didn't mean just for one PSD pick.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 08, 2016, 06:52:23 PM
Jake Stringer might be rage traded in a few hours depending on how he goes tonight.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Boomz on September 08, 2016, 07:04:25 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 08, 2016, 06:52:23 PM
Jake Stringer might be rage traded in a few hours depending on how he goes tonight.

Keen
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 08, 2016, 07:19:11 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 08, 2016, 06:52:23 PM
Jake Stringer might be rage traded in a few hours depending on how he goes tonight.

8 touches, 1goal. 52SC
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 08, 2016, 07:25:07 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 08, 2016, 07:19:11 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 08, 2016, 06:52:23 PM
Jake Stringer might be rage traded in a few hours depending on how he goes tonight.

8 touches, 1goal. 52SC

In the first quarter?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Nige on September 08, 2016, 07:27:05 PM
Quote from: Boomz on September 08, 2016, 07:04:25 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 08, 2016, 06:52:23 PM
Jake Stringer might be rage traded in a few hours depending on how he goes tonight.

Keenest
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 08, 2016, 07:31:37 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 08, 2016, 07:25:07 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 08, 2016, 07:19:11 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 08, 2016, 06:52:23 PM
Jake Stringer might be rage traded in a few hours depending on how he goes tonight.

8 touches, 1goal. 52SC

In the first quarter?

For the rest of the year!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 08, 2016, 07:40:58 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 08, 2016, 07:31:37 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 08, 2016, 07:25:07 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 08, 2016, 07:19:11 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 08, 2016, 06:52:23 PM
Jake Stringer might be rage traded in a few hours depending on how he goes tonight.

8 touches, 1goal. 52SC

In the first quarter?

For the rest of the year!

So an average of 2 disposals a game? Better trade him right now since his value will be so low after that.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on September 08, 2016, 10:02:41 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 08, 2016, 05:23:46 PM
I'll take PSD 8 for Jong but need to play around with minimum cap.
Just done his shoulder.  :'(
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 09, 2016, 11:22:29 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 08, 2016, 07:19:11 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 08, 2016, 06:52:23 PM
Jake Stringer might be rage traded in a few hours depending on how he goes tonight.

8 touches, 1goal. 52SC

10 touches, 1 goal, 50SC

I was pretty damn close!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 09, 2016, 01:45:31 PM
Garlett going once...
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on September 09, 2016, 03:31:06 PM
Shaun Burgoyne has come up a couple times... happy to keep, but will listen to offers.

Give me mid. Or a forward I guess. Their age doesn't fuss me, as long as they are contracted next year  8)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 09, 2016, 03:45:34 PM
Hartlett being traded leaves Stringer, Dempster, Wilbur and Lester as the only remaining players on Christchurch's list who were taken in the redraft. Roughy, Sloane and Burgoyne didn't last more than a few weeks, Roberton and Picken were cashed in after a year. Guys like Steele, Lever, McLean and Andrews came in through the draft of that offseason and probably won't ever leave.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 09, 2016, 03:50:29 PM
Hartlett hasn't been traded just yet ;)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 09, 2016, 03:52:40 PM
Neither has Garlett, so get your offers in ASAP!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 09, 2016, 03:59:18 PM
Somebody take Garlett already so meow can stop selling him!  ;D

I'll offer up Cam Shenton and Andrew Walker for him
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 09, 2016, 04:04:18 PM
1194th most games played, 250th most goals kicked of any player... ever!

31st most goals kicked for Carlton

98th most goals kicked for Melbourne.

2011: 48 goals
2012: 29 goals
2013: 43 goals
2014: 12 goals
2015: 40 goals
2016: 29 goals

I think it's safe to assume that Jeffy is going to kick 40+ goals next year since he's due.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on September 09, 2016, 04:06:24 PM
what pick will you take to not talk about that SC scrub again
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 09, 2016, 04:07:40 PM
Contracted for another 3 seasons. He will have just turned 30 at the end of that so a good chance to play for another couple after that too. 5 seasons of brilliance from an AFL star for a pick in the 30's? Bargain.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on September 09, 2016, 04:08:45 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 09, 2016, 04:07:40 PM
Contracted for another 3 seasons. He will have just turned 30 at the end of that so a good chance to play for another couple after that too. 5 seasons of brilliance from an AFL star for a pick in the 30's? Bargain.

The Saints are no good, perhaps you should keep these stars to improve your squad.

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 09, 2016, 04:10:58 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 09, 2016, 04:08:45 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 09, 2016, 04:07:40 PM
Contracted for another 3 seasons. He will have just turned 30 at the end of that so a good chance to play for another couple after that too. 5 seasons of brilliance from an AFL star for a pick in the 30's? Bargain.

The Saints are no good, perhaps you should keep these stars to improve your squad.

But I want to follow in Dublin's footsteps and finish last sometime. Won't be able to do that with this superstar on the list.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on September 09, 2016, 04:13:02 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 09, 2016, 04:10:58 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 09, 2016, 04:08:45 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 09, 2016, 04:07:40 PM
Contracted for another 3 seasons. He will have just turned 30 at the end of that so a good chance to play for another couple after that too. 5 seasons of brilliance from an AFL star for a pick in the 30's? Bargain.

The Saints are no good, perhaps you should keep these stars to improve your squad.

But I want to follow in Dublin's footsteps and finish last sometime. Won't be able to do that with this superstar on the list.

thats ok keep trading you will achieve that goal.

but to truly finish in Dublin's footsteps you might want to do some good trades.

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Nige on September 09, 2016, 06:35:17 PM
Straight swaps are trendy this year.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on September 10, 2016, 11:16:56 AM
Just one coach to go, but I've made my mind up on that trade anyway. That coach still needs to vote though

Trade 12
Dublin trade: Lance Franklin, Jarryd Roughead + Pick 55
Berlin trade: Brad Crouch, Pick 27 + Pick 45
Votes: 0
Admin comments: Well, there was ONE neg, but he said he did it just for the laughs (this was after it was announced it would pass), which doesn't qualify as a valid vote :P
Verdict: PASS

Trade 13
Christchurch trade: Ben Reid + Pick 56
New York trade: Nathan Vardy, James Stewart + Pick 44
Votes: 0
Admin comments: Seems fine enough
Verdict: PASS

Trade 14
Mexico City trade: Cameron Ellis-Yolmen + Sam Gray
London trade: Ben Cunnington + Pick 25
Votes: 3
Admin comments: Let's just say this gets 4 votes so I need to decide whether it should be overturned. Although I think we'd mostly agree that Cunnington will rebound next year, let's say to his usual 93 self, I think you could also mount an argument that Sam Gray could rebound to his 89 average next year too and could have scope to improve on that. Cunnington > Gray? Yes. By a lot? No. The thing with CEY is not so much his fantasy scoring, but his JS. The Crouch brothers have played a part in his drop from last year I reckon, but who replaces Scott Thompson next year if as predicted he steps down? Or what if CEY does break in the team? Then all of a sudden Pick 25 for CEY makes a lot of sense, and London could very well come out a winner. I can see the logic behind it, and will give the benefit of the doubt to London here. Although I personally think Mexico City is more likely to come out on top, it's not enough for me to overturn a PASS decision.
Verdict: PASS

Trade 15
Moscow trade: Tyrone Vickery
Mexico City trade: George Hewett
Votes: 0
Admin comments: Eh.
Verdict: PASS

Trade 16
New York trade: Scott D Thompson
Seoul trade: Ben McGlynn
Votes: 0
Admin comments: Good trade.
Verdict: PASS




PS: Coaches are reminded that if a trade does get negged, the coaches that negged it will have their reasons forwarded to the coaches involved in the trade. That means you have got to be clear why you negged it, so it can assist the coaches involved in understanding why. A lack of detail or a vague reason means I won't count it (I'm not asking for a huge paragraph, just a clear identification of why in a couple of sentences). Balance of comp is no longer a valid reason as well.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on September 10, 2016, 11:52:04 AM
Updated thread

WXV Player Lists & Draft Order (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,108063.0.html)

Updated spreadsheet

WXV Trade Centre (http://jmp.sh/g3v7gq1)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 10, 2016, 12:43:11 PM
Over the past month or so we've had quite a lot of interest in Mitch Duncan and Stephen Hill

We are open to trading one of them if it gets us a starting defender or forward

So if you want a 25/26 year old mid entering their prime averaging 90+ with potential to push 100ish then get your offers in :)

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on September 10, 2016, 03:24:21 PM
Colin Garland, contracted for the next two years... alas, is rumoured that Melbourne might trade him.

Bidding starts at a 5th round draft pick, and I'll trade him to the highest bidder by tomorrow night

All of a sudden, this "cap" is becoming a concern for me :P

Could be handy for teams needing to get above the minimum cap, or build distance from it
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 10, 2016, 03:28:49 PM
Jake Stringer officially on the trade table.

All negotiations for him are to be done in this thread though. Anyone interested?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: fanTCfool on September 10, 2016, 03:34:14 PM
What's the reason behind only wanting to complete trade talks on a public thread? Surely that would just scare potential buyers away?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on September 10, 2016, 03:35:11 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on September 10, 2016, 03:34:14 PM
What's the reason behind only wanting to complete trade talks on a public thread? Surely that would just scare potential buyers away?

Would scare the low-ballers away  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 10, 2016, 03:37:42 PM
Saves me from having to get back to coaches and tell them that I'm going to accept another trade. Basically because I am lazy.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 10, 2016, 03:44:43 PM
PSD #28 + Rookie #62 + Dillon Viojo-Rainbow pretty much free to anyone who wants them.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: upthemaidens on September 10, 2016, 04:46:07 PM
M.Goodyear, T.Mohr, J.Tippett, J.Lamb, B.Gowers  #50,#68,#86

We are over stocked and if they don't get sold, some will have to be de-listed to make room.  So come in and grab yourself a bargain.

Selling either separately or in a package.   Pick upgrades preferred at this stage.

Paul Ahern is also on the table.   Yes he has re-injured himself, but is still young and has plenty of time to get back.
   Obviously a talented kid. #7 AFL draft 2014.   Picked at #9 in WXV.  We basically paid #13 for him last year.
After the latest set back his price has clearly fallen.  I feel his true value is around #20-25 now.  Will consider any offers inside the top 40 though.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Levi434 on September 10, 2016, 08:37:20 PM
Scott Thompson + Pick 19 for a slightly younger mid.

Get your offers in!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on September 10, 2016, 08:45:36 PM
Who stickied this thread?!

It's the only separation I can get from the trade confirmation thread :P

Whoever it is... consider this a facebook poke war >:D
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Nige on September 10, 2016, 09:39:20 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 10, 2016, 08:45:36 PM
Who stickied this thread?!

It's the only separation I can get from the trade confirmation thread :P

Whoever it is... consider this a facebook poke war >:D
I'll be honest.

I considered it.

But it wasn't me.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 11, 2016, 11:39:19 AM
Stephen Hill could be on the move very soon, which would also mean Duncan comes off the table

If you want either, and have a starting defender or forward to offer - get in quick!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: DazBurg on September 11, 2016, 02:14:24 PM
Westy almost out the door

but i feel to compete with M2 talking up players i will step in :P

fun fact
buddy vs westy

westy only 4 months onler
and if you take their averages for the last 4 years and add them together it equals

Buddy total = 372
Westy = 369.6

total games

Buddy = 77
Westy = 87


westy has played all 22 last 3 years

anyways probably makes no difference to most anyhow
just thoguht i'd point it out before everyone misses their chances
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 11, 2016, 04:04:58 PM
Westhoff better than Buddy. Noted. I'll keep that in mind when assessing the fairness of the trade.

Topping up Dublin's forward line with a guy more valuable than Lance is going to have to cost heaps. More than I'd be willing to pay for sure.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 11, 2016, 04:20:46 PM
Don't worry meow, I'm hearing whispers that Westy isn't going to Dublin anymore, which might just flower Dublin now seeing as they already traded Bud and Rough  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on September 11, 2016, 04:34:42 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 11, 2016, 04:20:46 PM
Don't worry meow, I'm hearing whispers that Westy isn't going to Dublin anymore, which might just flower Dublin now seeing as they already traded Bud and Rough  ;)

Haha I can let everyone over bid for him.

Im stacked in the forward line now with decent guys and rather thrn playing collins omac at u1 u2 i have jack crouch.

So I'm Much stronger then last year and now i have a 1st Rounder 2 2nd rounders and 2 3rd rounders to build my depth.

This just extends dublins window. Why do you think i dropped thompson, murphy etc...

Belfast should be a finals contender this year.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 11, 2016, 08:31:17 PM
B: Bob, McVeigh, Montagna, Dempster
M: Mitchell, Watson, Griffen, Gibbs
R: Sandilands
F: Breust, Higgins, Waite, C Smith
I: Fiorini, Masten of puppets

B: Wilson, Lever, Andrews, C Ellis
M: Blakely, Steele, Trengove, Neal-Bullen
R: Roughead
F: Boyd, McLean, Dickson, Hoskin-Elliott
I: Langford, McKenzie

B: Gilbert, McKenna, Silvagni
M: Wigg, 8, 18, 37
R: Vardy
F: Stewart, Lester, Anderson
I: Minson

Rookie #8, #15, #26, #32 to be used to find the next Harris Andrews

PSD 8, 26, Rookie 44 unused.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 11, 2016, 08:51:14 PM
My entire backline and 3 out of my 4 mids might retire after next year so I doubt I'll be trading out any more defenders or mids.

Stringer for a decent pick(s) or a midfielder please.

Can package some players like Dickson, Gilbert, Lester, Cox, 39, 44 for better picks.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 12, 2016, 12:17:08 AM
8 teams enquired about The Package. Some excellent offers so far, and he WILL be traded.

NY have put in a very strong offer, and it has been beaten by Rio.

The whole negotiation in this thread thing isn't happening but I'll update here.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 12, 2016, 12:28:35 PM
NY back in the lead.

Also what's this shower about a 78 def being worth significantly more (grossly unfair and neg worthy) than an 85 mid who is 5 years younger?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on September 12, 2016, 02:13:27 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 08, 2016, 01:24:11 PM
Just a bit of an update on NDT boys that have come up in trade talks



Mitch Wallis: Obviously his injury has hurt his value a little bit but if we compare him to a 1st or 2nd year player for a sec, they may take 3-4+ years to breakout, and most likely won't be a start in your best XV in that time. But with Mitch you get a proven 98+ scorer in 12months time. Barlow's injury was similar and he returned exactly 12months later with scores of 69 (98DT), 21 (started as sub, on in last Q), 101, 120, 112, 109, 88, 81 and 52 (destroyed by Cross). So for a year of sitting on the sideline (which a kid would anyway), there's huge reward for the 10 years after.


Stephen Coniglio: Superstar. Gun. Reliable Captain Option. Lovechild. Conigs isn't off limits. If we were to trade him though it would need to be
- 27-30yr old averaging similar  + upgrade kid to starter elsewhere OR
- 20<26yr old averaging 100ish  + upgrade kid to starter elsewhere
something like that


Darcy Tucker: Not moveable #betterthanFyfe


Daniel Rich: 85ave this year. 96ave in the last 6 games. Will only get better when Beams returns, giving him more protection in the middle, and Brissie sort their shower out (oh and as you don't start him against North when Jacobs is playing :P ). Could push 95-100. Perfect for a starting spot.


Stef Martin; Obviously had a down year and concussion rocked him for a while. But still averaged 106.5 from round 12 annnnd was a beast when we needed him to make finals. If he moves, a ruck will need to be involved. But he's not unmovable.


Zac Clarke: Hurt his knee early last year at Falls Festival. Re-hurt it again earlier this year. Like Lycett, he can play with it but struggles to run. A cleanup and a full preseason will see him return to some decent form. Has posted 96ave and 88ave before. New club and a fresh start will only do him wonders as well.


Simon White: 75ave over last 7 games. Healthy scores of 113, 96, 70, 79, 78 and 78. Great F4/D4 / depth. Will take best pick offered.


Tommy Bugg: Actually a decent chance to stay a defender in 2017 after playing a lot of the second half down there. 9 from his 18 games were in defence
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 12, 2016, 08:06:26 PM
Gibbo has signed on for next year, and on radio today JB said that Waite will be playing on

This will probably only appeal to teams in the premiership window, but if you think these guys might help you out then shoot me an offer

What do we want in return? A player from the same position who is younger but averages less, but it has to be someone who is best 22 and is a decent SC prospect. Don't bother offering up spuds who will never become anything SC relevant. We can add more on top if need be

I know it might be asking a bit considering their age, but we're happy to play them out and get their good scoring as opposed to giving them away for nothing
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 12, 2016, 08:29:49 PM
any interest in a McCarthy + Pick 11 package? after a mid might consider a higher pick too
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 12, 2016, 11:28:19 PM
Just doing a little spring cleaning and the following players can be taken for a pick

Cameron Shenton
Teia Miles (I know HP loves him :P)
Jack Redpath
Jonathan Griffin (Ruck, so decent pick required)
Adam Marcon

Waite and Gibson can also be potentially traded as per above post

And these guys can possibly be traded too, but we rate them as handy depth so would need something good in return or can package a few of them up

Mitch W Brown (Ess)
Mitch White
Ben Sinclair
Reece Conca
Alex Sexton
Matt Rosa
James Harmes
Jesse White
Jack Fitzpatrick


Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 12, 2016, 11:31:06 PM
Oh, and of course our current rookie listed players are available too

Dan Houston
Kurt Heatherley
Harrison Marsh
Todd Elton
Jackson Paine
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on September 13, 2016, 03:36:01 PM
So I reckon about half the coaches here have asked about Hanley or Dunstan at one stage or another.

Might be getting a package deal done within the next 2 days or so, so if you're still interested, chuck us a PM. Can be a defender, forward, or mid (however preference would be fwd).
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 13, 2016, 03:38:06 PM
A "Package" deal
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 13, 2016, 04:06:22 PM
Only 26 trades submitted so far

Wowzers  :o
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on September 13, 2016, 04:29:12 PM
3 votes left to go... I will officially confirm each trade once the remaining teams vote (Cape Town, London & Tokyo... I named you just in case I missed you)

But the following trades have received 0 votes, and will hence auto-pass:

Trade 17
Dublin trade: Pick 49
Cairo trade: Ed Vickers-Willis

Trade 18
Berlin trade: William Hams
Cairo trade: Tom Cole

Trade 19
Mexico City trade: Rookie Draft Pick 15
Christchurch trade: Ivan Soldo

Trade 20
Dublin trade: Lewis Jetta
Rio de Janeiro trade: Josh Bruce


Trade 22
Cairo trade: Pick 39
Christchurch trade: Jeff Garlett

Trade 23
Berlin trade: Josh Cowan
Moscow trade: Hayden Ballantyne




The only trade left is

Trade 21
New Delhi trade: Brayden Fiorini
Christchurch trade: Hamish Hartlett

This has got 7 votes, and I don't disagree with it enough for me to turn a REJECT decision into a PASS. Once the remaining coaches vote, I'll forward the reasons to Cape Town & New Delhi, but for now, I'll say each vote pointed towards Christchurch not getting enough back for Hartlett.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: ossie85 on September 13, 2016, 04:32:23 PM
Yawn
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on September 13, 2016, 04:54:02 PM
5/5 with no votes against. got to say this is nice.

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 13, 2016, 05:25:25 PM
Cairo just pulled off the biggest steal in trade history.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on September 13, 2016, 05:29:41 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 13, 2016, 05:25:25 PM
Cairo just pulled off the biggest steal in trade history.

Hams is ok but i think your going overboard.

it balances out as they got robbed in the other trade though.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: elephants on September 13, 2016, 05:34:45 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 13, 2016, 05:29:41 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 13, 2016, 05:25:25 PM
Cairo just pulled off the biggest steal in trade history.

Hams is ok but i think your going overboard.

it balances out as they got robbed in the other trade though.

Well not if this is true

Quote from: Koop on September 11, 2016, 09:25:32 PM
Rumour floating around that both Will Hams & Shaun Edwards were told they were delisted by the Bombers after today's VFL game.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on September 13, 2016, 05:35:49 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 13, 2016, 05:34:45 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 13, 2016, 05:29:41 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 13, 2016, 05:25:25 PM
Cairo just pulled off the biggest steal in trade history.

Hams is ok but i think your going overboard.

it balances out as they got robbed in the other trade though.

Well not if this is true

Quote from: Koop on September 11, 2016, 09:25:32 PM
Rumour floating around that both Will Hams & Shaun Edwards were told they were delisted by the Bombers after today's VFL game.

hams is no good, but surely he wasnt talking about the other spud.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 13, 2016, 05:37:51 PM
Um clearly I meant the one where they got the 2017 Coleman, Brownlow and Norm Smith medalist for a mere 3rd round pick.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on September 13, 2016, 05:38:46 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 13, 2016, 05:34:45 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 13, 2016, 05:29:41 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 13, 2016, 05:25:25 PM
Cairo just pulled off the biggest steal in trade history.

Hams is ok but i think your going overboard.

it balances out as they got robbed in the other trade though.

Well not if this is true

Quote from: Koop on September 11, 2016, 09:25:32 PM
Rumour floating around that both Will Hams & Shaun Edwards were told they were delisted by the Bombers after today's VFL game.
http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/2016-09-13/hams-heppell-lead-the-way (http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/2016-09-13/hams-heppell-lead-the-way)

Do we have a source cause it seems a little weird if Hams was delisted?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: elephants on September 13, 2016, 05:41:54 PM
Quote from: iZander on September 13, 2016, 05:38:46 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 13, 2016, 05:34:45 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 13, 2016, 05:29:41 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 13, 2016, 05:25:25 PM
Cairo just pulled off the biggest steal in trade history.

Hams is ok but i think your going overboard.

it balances out as they got robbed in the other trade though.

Well not if this is true

Quote from: Koop on September 11, 2016, 09:25:32 PM
Rumour floating around that both Will Hams & Shaun Edwards were told they were delisted by the Bombers after today's VFL game.
http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/2016-09-13/hams-heppell-lead-the-way (http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/2016-09-13/hams-heppell-lead-the-way)

Do we have a source cause it seems a little weird if Hams was delisted?

I was just quoting what Koops posted in the Offseason thread
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 13, 2016, 05:48:08 PM
Garlett averaged more than superstar in the making Darcy Moore.

Still not impressed? Prepare to have your socks knocked off. In the season just gone Garlett averaged a whopping 58.7 points more than one of the top 5 SCers of all time in Dane Swan! He'll do similar to Ablett, Fyfe, Danger, Rocky etc next year.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: elephants on September 13, 2016, 05:51:02 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 13, 2016, 05:48:08 PM
Garlett averaged more than superstar in the making Darcy Moore.

Still not impressed? Prepare to have your socks knocked off. In the season just gone Garlett averaged a whopping 58.7 points more than one of the top 5 SCers of all time in Dane Swan! He'll do similar to Ablett, Fyfe, Danger, Rocky etc next year.

Based on this, I'm shocked that the Garlett deal slipped under the radar while the Fiorini deal was negged.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 13, 2016, 05:54:09 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 13, 2016, 05:51:02 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 13, 2016, 05:48:08 PM
Garlett averaged more than superstar in the making Darcy Moore.

Still not impressed? Prepare to have your socks knocked off. In the season just gone Garlett averaged a whopping 58.7 points more than one of the top 5 SCers of all time in Dane Swan! He'll do similar to Ablett, Fyfe, Danger, Rocky etc next year.

Based on this, I'm shocked that the Garlett deal slipped under the radar while the Fiorini deal was negged.

Compo
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Nige on September 13, 2016, 06:00:46 PM
If and/or when Will Hams is officially delisted, we're demanding compo.

It's beyond outrageous that the admin thinks he can rob struggling teams like this.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: elephants on September 13, 2016, 06:04:48 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 13, 2016, 06:00:46 PM
It's beyond outrageous that the admin thinks he can rob struggling teams like this.

Sack Purps

ily purps you're gr8
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Jroo on September 13, 2016, 06:23:54 PM
For those who have enquired about the below, most are available for a pick, or another player

Ryan Davis
Dylan Buckley
Tom Papley
James Rose
Jeremy Laidler
Jonathan Marsh
Brandon White
Tyrone Leonardis
Jacob Townsend
Mark Whiley
Jordan Cunico
Daniel Robinson
Jesse Palmer
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on September 13, 2016, 06:47:25 PM
Come onnnn Petrie. Get to the eagles!

On an unrelated note, who's idea was this salary cap anyway?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ringo on September 13, 2016, 07:04:09 PM
Definitely not mine - Miniimum Capp not helping with trading,
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on September 13, 2016, 07:10:13 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 13, 2016, 07:04:09 PM
Definitely not mine - Miniimum Capp not helping with trading,
Simon White has been available all trade period for a pick/pick upgrade

$200,000+ right there

And scoring ok for a f4/d4 possie
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: DazBurg on September 13, 2016, 07:15:31 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 13, 2016, 06:47:25 PM
Come onnnn Petrie. Get to the eagles!

On an unrelated note, who's idea was this salary cap anyway?
told you we have plenty of room at pnl so could help you  out ;)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Levi434 on September 13, 2016, 08:15:15 PM
Who has a 95 mid they are looking to move?

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on September 13, 2016, 08:19:53 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on September 13, 2016, 08:15:15 PM
Who has a 95 mid they are looking to move?
All are available at NDT
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 13, 2016, 08:27:15 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on September 13, 2016, 08:15:15 PM
Who has a 95 mid they are looking to move?

What are you offering?

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Levi434 on September 13, 2016, 09:03:54 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 13, 2016, 08:27:15 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on September 13, 2016, 08:15:15 PM
Who has a 95 mid they are looking to move?

What are you offering?

A back of some sort depending on who the mid is. Would also consider adding pick 19.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 13, 2016, 09:21:10 PM
Pick 39
Pick 44
Mason Cox
Ryan Lester

Choose 2 or more and offer me one pick/player (preferably a pick).

Need to free up some spots on the senior list to upgrade 3 rookies on top of having 43 spots filled by players and picks already. Got one trade in the works that'll free up 2 spots but more needs to be done.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 13, 2016, 09:40:42 PM
Cox averaged 59 in his debut season and averages 1.54 goals a game. With Cloke moving on he'll likely be the #2 target for the Pies. Not unrealistic to expect 40 goals next year from the 211.4cm beast. Capable of pushing a 70 average and at his height should continue to get ruck time to relieve Grundy.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: ossie85 on September 14, 2016, 05:12:25 AM
Quote from: Ringo on September 13, 2016, 07:04:09 PM
Definitely not mine - Miniimum Capp not helping with trading,

Sorry if that's the case Ringo :(

You're over the cap right? Surprised you're trying to trade players for picks/cheaper players though
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ringo on September 14, 2016, 09:45:16 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 14, 2016, 05:12:25 AM
Quote from: Ringo on September 13, 2016, 07:04:09 PM
Definitely not mine - Miniimum Capp not helping with trading,

Sorry if that's the case Ringo :(

You're over the cap right? Surprised you're trying to trade players for picks/cheaper players though
It is just ham strunging me a little Oss.  I have only $167k wriggle room.  And if a pick is involved in any trade as a combination I run the risk of falling below minimum cap. This is my argument for allowing to fall below in trading if gaining a pick but I will live with the rules and keep trying.
eg one of the trade proposals for Cunnington proposed was Player X + 1st Round pick which to me was solid but dropped me 47k below minimum cap.
Just a little explanation as to why.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ringo on September 14, 2016, 09:50:07 AM
Chris Mayne has told the club he definitely wants out of the club and has spoken to a number of clubs.

Accordingly if you would like to get Chris Mayne and give him a new start get offers in. Prepared to Package players eg Ethan Hughes, Hartung etc. and picks with Mayne to get a decent scoring mid.

Send offers my way. Clubs who have made offers may like to revise their offers.

Will be accepting the best offers. 
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 14, 2016, 10:30:25 AM
Quote from: Ringo on September 14, 2016, 09:45:16 AM
It is just ham strunging me a little Oss.  I have only $167k wriggle room.  And if a pick is involved in any trade as a combination I run the risk of falling below minimum cap. This is my argument for allowing to fall below in trading if gaining a pick but I will live with the rules and keep trying.
eg one of the trade proposals for Cunnington proposed was Player X + 1st Round pick which to me was solid but dropped me 47k below minimum cap.
Just a little explanation as to why.

You know a Pick is worth 100k though right?

If you're trading or receiving picks plus players, it should be pretty easy to do so and stay above the cap

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on September 14, 2016, 10:41:43 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 14, 2016, 10:30:25 AM
Quote from: Ringo on September 14, 2016, 09:45:16 AM
It is just ham strunging me a little Oss.  I have only $167k wriggle room.  And if a pick is involved in any trade as a combination I run the risk of falling below minimum cap. This is my argument for allowing to fall below in trading if gaining a pick but I will live with the rules and keep trying.
eg one of the trade proposals for Cunnington proposed was Player X + 1st Round pick which to me was solid but dropped me 47k below minimum cap.
Just a little explanation as to why.

You know a Pick is worth 100k though right?

If you're trading or receiving picks plus players, it should be pretty easy to do so and stay above the cap
Or use a middle to late pick for some depth with good JS. We had to do it when we had cap issues like London
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ringo on September 14, 2016, 10:57:29 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 14, 2016, 10:30:25 AM
Quote from: Ringo on September 14, 2016, 09:45:16 AM
It is just ham strunging me a little Oss.  I have only $167k wriggle room.  And if a pick is involved in any trade as a combination I run the risk of falling below minimum cap. This is my argument for allowing to fall below in trading if gaining a pick but I will live with the rules and keep trying.
eg one of the trade proposals for Cunnington proposed was Player X + 1st Round pick which to me was solid but dropped me 47k below minimum cap.
Just a little explanation as to why.

You know a Pick is worth 100k though right?

If you're trading or receiving picks plus players, it should be pretty easy to do so and stay above the cap
Know that but you missed the point that during trading pick is not worth 100k as shown by my example. If it was then I would have been ok with the trade as I still would have been above the minimum cap. So maybe the answer is to allocate picks as 100k when trading.

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 14, 2016, 11:05:04 AM
Quote from: Ringo on September 14, 2016, 10:57:29 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 14, 2016, 10:30:25 AM
Quote from: Ringo on September 14, 2016, 09:45:16 AM
It is just ham strunging me a little Oss.  I have only $167k wriggle room.  And if a pick is involved in any trade as a combination I run the risk of falling below minimum cap. This is my argument for allowing to fall below in trading if gaining a pick but I will live with the rules and keep trying.
eg one of the trade proposals for Cunnington proposed was Player X + 1st Round pick which to me was solid but dropped me 47k below minimum cap.
Just a little explanation as to why.

You know a Pick is worth 100k though right?

If you're trading or receiving picks plus players, it should be pretty easy to do so and stay above the cap
Know that but you missed the point that during trading pick is not worth 100k as shown by my example. If it was then I would have been ok with the trade as I still would have been above the minimum cap. So maybe the answer is to allocate picks as 100k when trading.

I just assumed they were

Yeah, picks need to be allocated 100k and factored in to the cap for sure during the trade period. They clearly have currency, so to not be recognised now while trading but to then be recognised a little later in the year isn't right
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 14, 2016, 11:26:22 AM
On the flipside though, like Rico said just use some of your mid draft picks to get in decent depth which helps your side and increases your cap
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on September 14, 2016, 11:26:50 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 14, 2016, 11:05:04 AM
Quote from: Ringo on September 14, 2016, 10:57:29 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 14, 2016, 10:30:25 AM
Quote from: Ringo on September 14, 2016, 09:45:16 AM
It is just ham strunging me a little Oss.  I have only $167k wriggle room.  And if a pick is involved in any trade as a combination I run the risk of falling below minimum cap. This is my argument for allowing to fall below in trading if gaining a pick but I will live with the rules and keep trying.
eg one of the trade proposals for Cunnington proposed was Player X + 1st Round pick which to me was solid but dropped me 47k below minimum cap.
Just a little explanation as to why.

You know a Pick is worth 100k though right?

If you're trading or receiving picks plus players, it should be pretty easy to do so and stay above the cap
Know that but you missed the point that during trading pick is not worth 100k as shown by my example. If it was then I would have been ok with the trade as I still would have been above the minimum cap. So maybe the answer is to allocate picks as 100k when trading.

I just assumed they were

Yeah, picks need to be allocated 100k and factored in to the cap for sure during the trade period. They clearly have currency, so to not be recognised now while trading but to then be recognised a little later in the year isn't right
This is exactly what I was saying when it got voted in :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 14, 2016, 11:47:18 AM
Surely they add 100k?! Depending on list size of course. If you've got 20 players and 40 picks only 20 picks should count but that's better than 0 counting.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: ossie85 on September 14, 2016, 11:47:54 AM
The pick at $100k thing seems fair to me
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 14, 2016, 11:48:25 AM
If anyone has picks in the 20-40 range, and are open to trading them - hit me up and tell me what you'd need

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 14, 2016, 11:53:10 AM
3 horse race for Jake Stringer at the moment. I'm holding up other potential deals so I should hurry up and make a decision. If you're interested in him let me know ASAP because it's likely that he'll be gone soon.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on September 14, 2016, 11:54:19 AM
The cap wants to encourage getting in competitive depth to those close to the minimum. Draft picks, generally, are not.

I'd wager those close to the minimum cap will be below it after delistments. The draft picks would probably get it back over the 9.1 mill minimum

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 14, 2016, 11:58:49 AM
Ringo, if cap points is what you need, I'm happy to inject nearly 900k into your list

Gibbo + Waite for Pick 6 :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on September 14, 2016, 12:35:22 PM
N5 could well be up for grabs.  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: elephants on September 14, 2016, 12:37:38 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 14, 2016, 12:35:22 PM
N5 could well be up for grabs.  ;)

N91 might be on the table if the offer is good.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on September 14, 2016, 12:39:23 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 14, 2016, 12:37:38 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 14, 2016, 12:35:22 PM
N5 could well be up for grabs.  ;)

N91 might be on the table if the offer is good.
John Butcher? ;)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: elephants on September 14, 2016, 12:42:25 PM
Quote from: iZander on September 14, 2016, 12:39:23 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 14, 2016, 12:37:38 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 14, 2016, 12:35:22 PM
N5 could well be up for grabs.  ;)

N91 might be on the table if the offer is good.
John Butcher? ;)

Haha I'd like to report you for that offer. Pick 91 is more than 18 times better than N5
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on September 14, 2016, 12:45:12 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 14, 2016, 12:42:25 PM
Quote from: iZander on September 14, 2016, 12:39:23 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 14, 2016, 12:37:38 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 14, 2016, 12:35:22 PM
N5 could well be up for grabs.  ;)

N91 might be on the table if the offer is good.
John Butcher? ;)

Haha I'd like to report you for that offer. Pick 91 is more than 18 times better than N5
m8, butcher went 132 in round 19, GUN
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ringo on September 14, 2016, 05:01:44 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 14, 2016, 11:58:49 AM
Ringo, if cap points is what you need, I'm happy to inject nearly 900k into your list

Gibbo + Waite for Pick 6 :P
I have a few that I hope are available at 6 so will not be trading pick 6.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on September 14, 2016, 06:21:35 PM
Cape Town still left to vote, but making things "official"... this time informally:

All trades except Trade 21 received 0 votes, and Trade 21 received 9 votes and hence was auto-rejected.

Shall work on my updates now...
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on September 14, 2016, 06:39:19 PM
Thread updated

WXV Player Lists & Draft Order (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,108063.0.html)

Spreadsheet updated

WXV Trade Centre (http://jmp.sh/g3v7gq1)




Let me know if you want anymore stats!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on September 14, 2016, 06:41:26 PM
Beijing & Pacific keeping the faith in their lists atm as the only teams not have traded, whilst Toronto's first is currently pending  :o
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 14, 2016, 06:44:20 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 14, 2016, 06:41:26 PM
Beijing & Pacific keeping the faith in their lists atm as the only teams not have traded, whilst Toronto's first is currently pending  :o

Yeah..... that's what they're doing.....
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Nige on September 14, 2016, 06:46:25 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 14, 2016, 06:44:20 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 14, 2016, 06:41:26 PM
Beijing & Pacific keeping the faith in their lists atm as the only teams not have traded, whilst Toronto's first is currently pending  :o

Yeah..... that's what they're doing.....
Hahah it was a generous call!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Jay on September 14, 2016, 07:05:44 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 14, 2016, 06:44:20 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 14, 2016, 06:41:26 PM
Beijing & Pacific keeping the faith in their lists atm as the only teams not have traded, whilst Toronto's first is currently pending  :o

Yeah..... that's what they're doing.....
We like our team. Why trade for the sake of it?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: upthemaidens on September 14, 2016, 07:33:27 PM
The big clean out and restructuring was done over the last few years.
  There's not a lot that needs to be done apart from some fine tuning and letting the young guys age.
 
Always happy to hear any offers for our players.  :)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Adamant on September 14, 2016, 09:27:33 PM
Toronto trade update

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on September 14, 2016, 09:42:12 PM
Hooker could go within the hour! Get your last dash offers in now!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 14, 2016, 09:43:45 PM
So that takes me to 41 players (not including Silvagni who can remain on the rookie list), 5 national draft picks (8, 18, 37, 39, 44) and 2 PSD picks (8, 26).

48 into 40 don't fit.

Cox
Dickson
Gilbert
Wellingham
Davis
PSD 8
PSD 26
8
18
37
39
44

Looking to package some together, preferably for a pick or Lin Jong but others might also be considered.

Could also look at packaging the above with guys like Trengove, Anderson, Lester etc but I have found that I overprice them while others want them cheaply so it's probably not going to end well.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on September 14, 2016, 09:44:45 PM
Jack Crisp is probably being traded soon.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 15, 2016, 12:10:10 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 14, 2016, 11:54:19 AM
The cap wants to encourage getting in competitive depth to those close to the minimum. Draft picks, generally, are not.

I'd wager those close to the minimum cap will be below it after delistments. The draft picks would probably get it back over the 9.1 mill minimum

So teams who are below the cap or close to it, cannot do a trade unless it gets them enough $ back from the other team to get them over the cap after that trade, and it can't include their draft picks at 100k a pick?

That would have a pretty big impact on their ability to trade freely like the rest of us

It can't be fair that you can be over the cap during the trade period, and just get yourself under via delistings at team lodgement but you can't be under the cap during the trade period

If this is the case, the pending Toronto/Rio deal cannot be assessed because Toronto would still be under the cap after it, and that's just not fair

Let the draft picks count
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on September 15, 2016, 12:16:34 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 15, 2016, 12:10:10 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 14, 2016, 11:54:19 AM
The cap wants to encourage getting in competitive depth to those close to the minimum. Draft picks, generally, are not.

I'd wager those close to the minimum cap will be below it after delistments. The draft picks would probably get it back over the 9.1 mill minimum

So teams who are below the cap or close to it, cannot do a trade unless it gets them enough $ back from the other team to get them over the cap after that trade, and it can't include their draft picks at 100k a pick?

That would have a pretty big impact on their ability to trade freely like the rest of us

It can't be fair that you can be over the cap during the trade period, and just get yourself under via delistings at team lodgement but you can't be under the cap during the trade period

If this is the case, the pending Toronto/Rio deal cannot be assessed because Toronto would still be under the cap after it, and that's just not fair

Let the draft picks count
Its to stop weaker teams trading its proven performers for draft picks and sending them back further.

Theoretically, without the minimum cap they could trade in 20 draft picks, with the aim of bringing in as much youth as possible but really making them uncompetitive for years
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 15, 2016, 12:19:01 AM
???

All I'm saying is that let them trade during the trade period and if they remain under the cap that's fine, but as long as they get to above the cap by the end of the trade period then it's all good
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on September 15, 2016, 12:27:52 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 15, 2016, 12:19:01 AM
???

All I'm saying is that let them trade during the trade period and if they remain under the cap that's fine, but as long as they get to above the cap by the end of the trade period then it's all good
Which part are you questioning??

Without the minimum cap, London could decide trade Shuey for some picks. Even if the deal is overs for Shuey it would make them less competitive for a few years. That's why the minimum cap is important

OK, and what if they don't get above the min? What's the punishment?

It's not anything new. Was like it last year as well

All they have to do is trade in some depth with some middle/late picks. Its not even a bad thing, it actually helps them. It's not hard
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 15, 2016, 12:32:28 AM
Yeah I get that it's not hard, and they should just use some junk picks to get some depth with $ attached, but I think the comp is very healthy in the sense that we don't have teams tanking like that, so they should just be able to trade

Like I said, they can't ever be below, but we can go above without question? I dunno, feel like they are crippled a little, and now the Toronto/Rio deal needs to be revised because of this, and really it shouldn't because it's clearly fair as it is
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 15, 2016, 02:08:21 AM
Having $ attached is just one more reason why Garlett is a gun.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 15, 2016, 02:23:36 AM
They can be below and trade. They just can't send themselves even further below.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on September 15, 2016, 09:13:22 AM
Quote from: meow meow on September 15, 2016, 02:23:36 AM
They can be below and trade. They just can't send themselves even further below.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ringo on September 15, 2016, 09:24:04 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 15, 2016, 12:27:52 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 15, 2016, 12:19:01 AM
???

All I'm saying is that let them trade during the trade period and if they remain under the cap that's fine, but as long as they get to above the cap by the end of the trade period then it's all good
Which part are you questioning??

Without the minimum cap, London could decide trade Shuey for some picks. Even if the deal is overs for Shuey it would make them less competitive for a few years. That's why the minimum cap is important

OK, and what if they don't get above the min? What's the punishment?

It's not anything new. Was like it last year as well

All they have to do is trade in some depth with some middle/late picks. Its not even a bad thing, it actually helps them. It's not hard
Just saying that Cap $ is different to Cap Points. My initial proposed Cunnington trade was OK under the points system but took me below the $ Cap because pick was involved.
My argument against London using picks for $ is we have quite a few if these type of players on our list and trading in further stiffles us further.  And for the record Shuey is staying.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 15, 2016, 10:12:41 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 15, 2016, 09:13:22 AM
Quote from: meow meow on September 15, 2016, 02:23:36 AM
They can be below and trade. They just can't send themselves even further below.

Oh OK then, that's fine. Didn't get that impression based on what was previously said

Should be a piece of cake to get above then
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 15, 2016, 10:40:06 AM
Will take a pick for any of these guys

Cameron Shenton, Teia Miles, Adam Marcon, Jack Repath, Dan Houston, Todd Elton, Harrison Marsh, Kurt Heatherley, Jackson Paine

Jarrad Waite and Jon Griffin could also possibly move for a pick too, but would want picks in the 20-40 range
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ringo on September 15, 2016, 02:38:32 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 15, 2016, 10:12:41 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 15, 2016, 09:13:22 AM
Quote from: meow meow on September 15, 2016, 02:23:36 AM
They can be below and trade. They just can't send themselves even further below.

Oh OK then, that's fine. Didn't get that impression based on what was previously said

Should be a piece of cake to get above then
So to clarify Toronto can trade and remain under cap so long as they do not go below their current cap of $8,695,000 but London can not trade below minimum cap even though a pick maybe involved.
Also for clarification some previous trades involved players on rookie lists so is the rule still they go to the receiving franchise rookie list as well.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 15, 2016, 03:08:05 PM
Pretty sure the new team can decide whether they want to put them on their rookie list or senior list

Counts towards to cap either way so does it matter?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on September 15, 2016, 03:15:47 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 15, 2016, 03:08:05 PM
Pretty sure the new team can decide whether they want to put them on their rookie list or senior list

Counts towards to cap either way so does it matter?

i think it styas where they were on as it takes a pick to upgrade a guy off the rookie list
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Nige on September 15, 2016, 03:16:50 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 15, 2016, 03:15:47 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 15, 2016, 03:08:05 PM
Pretty sure the new team can decide whether they want to put them on their rookie list or senior list

Counts towards to cap either way so does it matter?

i think it styas where they were on as it takes a pick to upgrade a guy off the rookie list
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 15, 2016, 04:06:08 PM
Rookies from other teams cannot go on your rookie list. They must go on your senior list if you trade them in.

Doesn't cost any picks to upgrade rookies.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 15, 2016, 04:14:08 PM

2010: 75.8
2011: 75.9
2012: 81.5
2013: 73.2
2014: 69.7
2015: 75.7
2016: 62.9

Sharrod should average somewhere around 70 based on the above and he can be yours for a pick upgrade (or in a deal for Lin Jong). Decent defensive depth or even D4 when he's up and about.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 15, 2016, 04:18:09 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 15, 2016, 04:06:08 PM
Rookies from other teams cannot go on your rookie list. They must go on your senior list if you trade them in.

Doesn't cost any picks to upgrade rookies.

Exactly what I thought, which is why what Ringo and Holz said confused the shower out of me
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on September 15, 2016, 05:30:48 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 15, 2016, 02:38:32 PM
So to clarify Toronto can trade and remain under cap so long as they do not go below their current cap of $8,695,000 but London can not trade below minimum cap even though a pick maybe involved.
Also for clarification some previous trades involved players on rookie lists so is the rule still they go to the receiving franchise rookie list as well.

So long as Toronto is under the cap, they have to make trades that gives them more salary. They can't say, gain $50,000 (which is below the minimum cap but allowed as it improves their cap) then make another trades that loses $25,000. They have to keep improving.

Quote from: meow meow on September 15, 2016, 04:06:08 PM
Rookies from other teams cannot go on your rookie list. They must go on your senior list if you trade them in.

Doesn't cost any picks to upgrade rookies.

This too.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 15, 2016, 05:59:07 PM
Getting several offers and interest for Waite and Griffin

Every chance they will be gone very soon, so get your offers in

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 16, 2016, 07:11:44 PM
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Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 16, 2016, 07:24:15 PM

1. B Gibbs
2. S Mitchell
3. L Montagna
4. R Murphy
5. R Griffen
6. J Watson
7. J McVeigh
8. B Fiorini
9. L Breust
10. S Higgins
11. C Blakely
12. J Lever
13. T McLean
14. J Roughead
15. J Trengove
16. N Wilson
17. S Gilbert
18. H Andrews
19. S Dempster
20. C Smith
21. J Steele
22. A Vandenberg
23. J Waite
24. A Sandilands
25. C Ellis
26. T Dickson
27. N Vardy
28. K Langford
29. W Minson
30. R Lester
31. T Boyd
32. A N-Bullen
33. C McKenna
34. D McKenzie
35. W H-Elliott
36. J Anderson
37. J Stewart
38. H Wigg
39. #8
40. #18
41. #37
42. #39
43. Abe Davis
44. PSD #8
45. PSD #26

1. A Silvagni
2. Rookie #8
3. Rookie #15
4. Rookie #26
5. Rookie #32
6. Rookie #44
7. Rookie #62
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 16, 2016, 07:40:48 PM
Delist Davis, Minson, McKenzie, Finlayson and Silvagni

Send 2 picks and Wigg my way for 1 player we've been talking about ;)

Pass all rookie draft picks



Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Jay on September 16, 2016, 09:00:49 PM
We're willing to trade De Boer for a draft pick. PM with your offer if interested :)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Hellopplz on September 17, 2016, 01:07:45 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 16, 2016, 07:40:48 PM
Delist Davis, Minson, McKenzie, Finlayson and Silvagni
Don't delist Mckenzie. Trade him to us :P.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on September 17, 2016, 10:27:39 AM
Been thinking about putting Steven on the market... if you can offer me a starting mid (starting 4 mid) and a forward (depending on who they both are), then yeah, he could be yours!

He was averaging 110 after Round 18, before he let the other mortals catch up to his average

Scores of 138, 148, 150, 164 and 170 this year are not to be ignored. Those scores win you games.

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 17, 2016, 10:32:49 AM
I hope CD take finals into consideration when deciding on 2017 positions, because Billy Picken is doing his best to cement Forward status  8)

Also, considering our depth now we are probably in a position to trade Gibson + another good player for a younger defender so if you're interested let me know
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on September 17, 2016, 12:31:20 PM
Ok Wallis + Sheed will be going for either a premo mid or fwd.

Remember with Wallis, 12 months time you get a proven 98ave mid. That's better than any draftee/kid

Hit me up if interested
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on September 17, 2016, 02:20:59 PM
Btw Levi, your updated gif is gold  ;D

Jacobs, Wright and Whitecross :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Vinny on September 17, 2016, 03:18:21 PM
Hit iZander and I up if you are interested in Scott Pendlebury.

Not interested in depth players or picks.

2 midfielders OR 1 midfielder and 1 forward/defender.

J.Wagner, K.Collins, A.Everitt, J.Schulz, S.Atley could also be traded in packages.

All our picks are on the table; N12, N31, N54.

Looking for starting forwards.

Interested in midfield depth too.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 17, 2016, 03:25:41 PM
He's alive!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 17, 2016, 03:50:54 PM
Haha, Hi Vinny!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on September 17, 2016, 04:46:42 PM
Obviously doesn't realise Zander traded Collins. :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on September 17, 2016, 04:58:02 PM
Quote from: Vinny on September 17, 2016, 03:18:21 PM
Hit iZander and I up if you are interested in Scott Pendlebury.

Not interested in depth players or picks.

2 midfielders OR 1 midfielder and 1 forward/defender.

J.Wagner, K.Collins, A.Everitt, J.Schulz, S.Atley could also be traded in packages.

All our picks are on the table; N12, N31, N54.

Looking for starting forwards.

Interested in midfield depth too.

S Pendlebury   10508   Toronto/Buenos Aires
J Selwood   10319   Dublin/Cape Town
R Sloane   9921   Sao Paulo/Dublin
JP Kennedy   9910   Cape Town
T Cotchin   9737   Cape Town/Mexico City
T Goldstein   9618   Dublin/Cairo
C Ward   9587   Moscow/Beijing/Dublin
P Dangerfield   9540   Seoul
S Sidebottom   9496   Mexico City/New Delhi/Beijing
B Goddard   9445   Mexico City

Thought id just post this year, best player over last 5 years! probably further ahead if it were longer than 5 years tbh.

Now the amazing thing about these stats is that it counts WXV games. Youre probably wondering why guys like sloane and jelwood are even close to him? Reason is id say Dublin makes finals every year so they get a few extra games each year there!!! Clear best is all im saying :D
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Vinny on September 17, 2016, 05:40:55 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 17, 2016, 03:25:41 PM
He's alive!
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 17, 2016, 03:50:54 PM
Haha, Hi Vinny!
Hey gents.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on September 18, 2016, 08:23:50 PM
David Armitage could be out the door very soon!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on September 18, 2016, 11:19:19 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 18, 2016, 08:23:50 PM
David Armitage could be out the door very soon!

I have pick 90 but i can probably add a 1St round rookie if you chuck in a 2nd round.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on September 18, 2016, 11:35:56 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 03, 2016, 11:58:34 PM
Torp has been shopping around most of their guns already, but does he have the stones to actually agree to a deal and trade?  :P

Ima say probably not, because he wants too much :P
I thought I'd bring this up.  :P

Also Oss, I noticed you posted a top 10 price players to be traded a couple weeks back? Any chance of an updated one?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: ossie85 on September 19, 2016, 06:16:13 AM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 18, 2016, 11:35:56 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 03, 2016, 11:58:34 PM
Torp has been shopping around most of their guns already, but does he have the stones to actually agree to a deal and trade?  :P

Ima say probably not, because he wants too much :P
I thought I'd bring this up.  :P

Also Oss, I noticed you posted a top 10 price players to be traded a couple weeks back? Any chance of an updated one?

Mebbie :)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 19, 2016, 09:50:45 AM
Haha Torp

Conigs is a great acquisition, but you've paid up for Clarke, hope it works out!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 19, 2016, 09:53:23 AM
Quote from: Holz on September 18, 2016, 11:19:19 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 18, 2016, 08:23:50 PM
David Armitage could be out the door very soon!

I have pick 90 but i can probably add a 1St round rookie if you chuck in a 2nd round.

At least throw in your first PSD pick too
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on September 19, 2016, 10:49:14 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 17, 2016, 12:31:20 PM
Ok Wallis + Sheed will be going for either a premo mid or fwd.

Remember with Wallis, 12 months time you get a proven 98ave mid. That's better than any draftee/kid

Hit me up if interested
Combo will go shortly. Get in quick if your interested
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 19, 2016, 08:47:15 PM
Dickson
Wellingham
Cox
Gilbert
Minson
Davis
PSD 8, 26
Picks 8, 18, 29, 37, 39, 44

Choose 2 or more and let us make a deal.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 19, 2016, 08:58:06 PM
Picks 37 and 39

Can give Pick 38
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on September 20, 2016, 01:11:06 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 17, 2016, 12:31:20 PM
Ok Wallis + Sheed will be going for either a premo mid or fwd.

Remember with Wallis, 12 months time you get a proven 98ave mid. That's better than any draftee/kid

Hit me up if interested
Update on this Wallis + Sheed.  2 very similar offers are on the table and being weighed up, and a couple of other coaches have enquired.

Will go soon
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on September 20, 2016, 04:05:24 PM
2 coaches left to vote, but I can say the following trades have so far received 1 or less vote, and will hence auto-pass:

Trade 24
Christchurch trade: Dillon Viojo-Rainbow
PNL trade: Rookie Pick 32

Trade 25
Toronto trade: Jack Watts, Michael Close + Ben McKay
Rio de Janeiro trade: Travis Boak, Lewis Taylor + Tom Lamb

Trade 26
Berlin trade: Lachlan Henderson + Pick 8
New York trade: Stephen Hill + Pick 14

Trade 28
New York trade: Pick 8 + Pick 18
Christchurch trade: Jake Stringer

Trade 29
Buenos Aires trade: Jack Crisp + Pick 31
Moscow trade: Cale Hooker + Pick 24
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on September 20, 2016, 04:10:07 PM
Wow completely shocked by 1.

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 20, 2016, 04:11:30 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 20, 2016, 04:10:07 PM
Wow completely shocked by 1.

Which one?

Not too surprised to see the 2 that are still pending, but we passed them both.... just  :-X
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Nige on September 20, 2016, 04:12:20 PM
^
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 20, 2016, 05:41:15 PM
9 trades for us so far, and I think we might be done  :-X

Next stop: Nat Draft

Feel free to enquire about our players, but I think I can now take a break from sending 1000 PM's to enquire and negotiate  :)

It's been a hectic and time consuming month or two, but totally worth it
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Nige on September 20, 2016, 05:42:54 PM
So what's this new look New York look like after another semi-radical makeover?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 20, 2016, 05:51:00 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 20, 2016, 05:42:54 PM
So what's this new look New York look like after another semi-radical makeover?

Players can shuffle around depending on 2017 positions, but lets assume

Best XV
D: Mundy, Gibson, McDonald, Hurn
M: Lewis, Duncan, Scully, Tyson
R: Tippett
F: JJK, Heeney, Menzel, Stringer
U: Grigg, Picken

Reserve XV
D: Henderson, Reid, S.Collins, Sinclair
M: Conca, Rosa, Sexton, Harmes
R: Bellchambers
F: McGlynn, Gresham, White, M.W Brown
U: Fitzpatrick, H.Marsh

Obviously got a few picks to bring in some new kids too

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 20, 2016, 06:20:09 PM
Don't like Monday's chances of being a defender much.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 20, 2016, 06:45:01 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 20, 2016, 06:20:09 PM
Don't like Monday's chances of being a defender much.

Yeah it's 50/50 I reckon, but if he isn't then we bring Hendo/Reid into def, move Mundy to mids, Tyson to Interchange and Picken/Grigg to Emergency

Would be nice if Picken gets fwd status too.

Happy with the depth and overall age profile, so hopefully 2017 is a decent year for us
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Nige on September 20, 2016, 06:57:03 PM
Gresham not starting is an injustice and needs to be addressed.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 20, 2016, 07:00:24 PM
Nobody ever gets their best XV on the park anyway so he'll play plenty.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Vinny on September 20, 2016, 10:30:49 PM
On chat if anyone wants to talk WXV trades with iZander and myself.

M.Hartley, T.Chaplin, J.Adcock, R.Bewick, S.Butler, S.Skinner, J.Wagner, D.Merrett could all move for picks or midfield depth.

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on September 20, 2016, 10:35:05 PM
Quote from: Vinny on September 20, 2016, 10:30:49 PM
On chat if anyone wants to talk WXV trades with iZander and myself.

M.Hartley, T.Chaplin, J.Adcock, R.Bewick, S.Butler, S.Skinner, J.Wagner, D.Merrett could all move for picks or midfield depth.
Keen.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 20, 2016, 10:37:20 PM
Haha,

Vin, we can add Andrew Walker, Adam Marcon and Cam Shenton and package all 6 up
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: MajorLazer on September 21, 2016, 12:25:10 AM
Howdy all

Dayne Beams is very close to gone from Cairo, so if you wanna get in on this action, chuck one of us coaches at Cairo a PM with your best offers.

Adios
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on September 21, 2016, 09:51:05 AM
Trade 24
Christchurch trade: Dillon Viojo-Rainbow
PNL trade: Rookie Pick 32
Votes: 0
Admin Comments: Eh.
Verdict: PASS

Trade 25
Toronto trade: Jack Watts, Michael Close + Ben McKay
Rio de Janeiro trade: Travis Boak, Lewis Taylor + Tom Lamb
Votes: 0
Admin Comments: All the best Wattsy
Verdict: PASS

Trade 26
Berlin trade: Lachlan Henderson + Pick 8
New York trade: Stephen Hill + Pick 14
Votes: 1
Admin Comments: Second time trading Lachlan Henderson out
Verdict: PASS

Trade 27
New Delhi trade: Brayden Fiorini, Sharrod Wellingham + Pick 37
Christchurch trade: Hamish Hartlett
Votes: 3
Admin Comments: I fail to see the value in Sharrod + Pick 37, but what can you do
Verdict: PASS

Trade 28
New York trade: Pick 8 + Pick 18
Christchurch trade: Jake Stringer
Votes: 2
Admin Comments: Pricey but his name attracts a premium
Verdict: PASS

Trade 29
Buenos Aires trade: Jack Crisp + Pick 31
Moscow trade: Cale Hooker + Pick 24
Votes: 0
Admin Comments: Nice trade.
Verdict: PASS

Trade 30
Moscow trade: Robbie Gray, Dominic Sheed + Nick Vlastuin
New Delhi trade: Stephen Coniglio, Jarman Impey, Zachary Clarke, Jack Hannath + Luke Partington
Votes: 7
Admin Comments: I entirely agree with the reject decision, and will not be overturning the verdict. You could mount an argument that Gray equals Coniglio tbh, given regular history of being a captain choice and Coniglio turning it up for just one season so far. Sheed is quality, as is Vlastuin, whilst Impey, Clarke, Hannath and Partington (at least atm) are not. Rucks have a premium, sure, but not so much when neither of them are no 1 choices in their AFL team. New Delhi have much more to give to make this trade fair, and should focus on reducing quantity for increased quality. I will send the reasons out shortly.
Verdict: REJECTED
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on September 21, 2016, 10:24:01 AM
Ah right. Just read through the reasons so we'll reassess it.

Just for those that said Conigs has only had one good year, just keep this in mind

Last year round 1 he wore the vest and got 18SC. Excluding that game he went at 96ave last year as a 21yr old
This year 105+ as a 22yr old
So he has backed up a solid season and has 8+ years left of similar scoring

He was borderline the #1 pick in that huge draft. He played WAFL as a 16yr old. Kicked 4 goals in a WAFL GF as a 16 yr old. He is quality.

And if worried about the other GWS mids affecting him.
Pendles Swan Sidey Beams Ball all managed to score premo numbers
JPK Parker KJack Hannebery mcVeigh Malceski and McGlynn all averaged over 100 in Buddy's first year at Swans

And he's an inside mid. Outside players would be the first to be affected if at all.

22yr old 105+ mid
Compared to Gray who's 29 next year... we had to get something back to move him or its not worth it

And lastly one of the initial offers from moscow was
Conigs + a late pick
For
Gray + Sheed

But we'll have another look at it and resubmit
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 21, 2016, 10:27:56 AM
Hey Rico, just my 2c but I think Gray for Conigs considering the age difference is fair - def not enough to neg and reading Purps explanation it seems that way too

The problem is Sheed and Vlastuin are good young prospects who have shown enough to tell us they'll be decent starters one day or handy cover while the 4 you added are not

Just need to fix that part of the trade

Good Luck :)

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on September 21, 2016, 10:37:11 AM
Thread updated

WXV Player Lists & Draft Order (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,108063.0.html)

Spreadsheet updated

WXV Trade Centre (http://jmp.sh/g3v7gq1)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 21, 2016, 06:14:01 PM
2012    17    69.9
2013    13    69.8
2014    4    46.2
2015    22    76.8
2016    18    62.9

2014 was an injury write off but it's not unreasonable to say Tory Dickson could pump out a 70 average next year. Bit like Sharrod, decent depth and capable of being F4 when he's up and about. Rock solid JS.

2009    19    95.8
2010    22    92.6
2011    22    79.8
2012    21    72.5
2013    9    79.3
2014    6    54.7
2015    11    80.5
2016    22    66.1
   
Sam Gilbert's elite days are over but he could also be decent depth or a starter depending on his role next year. With Carlisle coming in it wouldn't be absurd to see him playing a bit more through the midfield like in 2015. Potentially another 80 ave season on the cards for the old lad. Also has rock solid JS (injury permitting but his foot is fine now).


Willing to package one or both with one or both of 37 and/or 39.

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on September 22, 2016, 12:11:26 PM
ok for people who need a back im selling a few of them.

Heath Grundy: only just turned 30 and is super consistent with 76 77 76 in his last 3 years.

Neville Jetta: 26 years old an a gun player, starting to turn into decent bench cover 77 average over a 2 month average in the back half of the season, when he gets into some form he goes ok. played a few games for me this year.

Lachy Hansen: Just turned 28 a few weeks ago. was going 80 unsubbed in 2014 and has been struck down with injuries since. 101 61 58 back from injury isnt too shabby. If he gets healthy he could push that 80 again.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on September 22, 2016, 12:16:25 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 22, 2016, 12:11:26 PM
Neville Jetta: 26 years old an a gun player

Can confirm. Should be All-Aus small defender.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on September 22, 2016, 12:17:48 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 22, 2016, 12:11:26 PM
ok for people who need a back im selling a few of them.

Heath Grundy: only just turned 30 and is super consistent with 76 77 76 in his last 3 years.

Neville Jetta: 26 years old an a gun player, starting to turn into decent bench cover 77 average over a 2 month average in the back half of the season, when he gets into some form he goes ok. played a few games for me this year.

Lachy Hansen: Just turned 28 a few weeks ago. was going 80 unsubbed in 2014 and has been struck down with injuries since. 101 61 58 back from injury isnt too shabby. If he gets healthy he could push that 80 again.
Simon White greater than all 3... combined ;)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on September 22, 2016, 12:21:09 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 22, 2016, 12:17:48 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 22, 2016, 12:11:26 PM
ok for people who need a back im selling a few of them.

Heath Grundy: only just turned 30 and is super consistent with 76 77 76 in his last 3 years.

Neville Jetta: 26 years old an a gun player, starting to turn into decent bench cover 77 average over a 2 month average in the back half of the season, when he gets into some form he goes ok. played a few games for me this year.

Lachy Hansen: Just turned 28 a few weeks ago. was going 80 unsubbed in 2014 and has been struck down with injuries since. 101 61 58 back from injury isnt too shabby. If he gets healthy he could push that 80 again.
Simon White greater than all 3... combined ;)

is this Jepordy

umm

Something a Comedian would say?
Something Simon White's mum would say?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: upthemaidens on September 22, 2016, 12:26:01 PM
I'll take Potent potables for 200 thanks Alex
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: elephants on September 22, 2016, 12:27:59 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 22, 2016, 12:21:09 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 22, 2016, 12:17:48 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 22, 2016, 12:11:26 PM
ok for people who need a back im selling a few of them.

Heath Grundy: only just turned 30 and is super consistent with 76 77 76 in his last 3 years.

Neville Jetta: 26 years old an a gun player, starting to turn into decent bench cover 77 average over a 2 month average in the back half of the season, when he gets into some form he goes ok. played a few games for me this year.

Lachy Hansen: Just turned 28 a few weeks ago. was going 80 unsubbed in 2014 and has been struck down with injuries since. 101 61 58 back from injury isnt too shabby. If he gets healthy he could push that 80 again.
Simon White greater than all 3... combined ;)

is this Jepordy

umm

Something a Comedian would say?
Something Simon White's mum would say?

Something everyones mum would say #SleepySimon #GetsAround #absolutelad
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on September 22, 2016, 12:44:57 PM
Daniel Talia --> average of 78.55 puts him as the 36th best defender you can buy.

That average consisted of just 7 scores below 70, with two of those being tolerable scores of 69 and 64. He played ALL 22 games this year, and has only missed 2 games in the last 5 years!

In 2016, he boasts scores of 103, 116, 122 and 137 to go along with best XV worthy scores of 84, 73, 70, 77, 73, 90, 97, 84, 122, 77, 103, 137, 74 and 74

All-Australian defender with unquestionable JS, and the reigning WXV Coaches Award recipient. Ask yourself, where would a 78.55 averaging defender sit in your defence? D3? D2?

flower me, I should be asking for the 36th best mid in Michael Barlow!

With me having a surplus of defenders, Talia now finds himself available for trade. Am open to most ideas, and age isn't a barrier.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on September 22, 2016, 12:47:07 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 22, 2016, 12:44:57 PM

All-Australian defender with unquestionable JS, and the reigning WXV Coaches Award recipient. Ask yourself, where would a 78.55 averaging defender sit in your defence? D3? D2?


If all things turn out right for Dublin D5 D6 :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Jukes on September 22, 2016, 01:30:43 PM
With those stats, how did that guy win the coaches award over a guy like Dochers who's average went from 87->109 with one score below Talia's average ::) 16 tons, 6 120+, compared to 3 and 1 in 2015...
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on September 22, 2016, 01:34:35 PM
Quote from: Jukes on September 22, 2016, 01:30:43 PM
With those stats, how did that guy win the coaches award over a guy like Dochers who's average went from 87->109 with one score below Talia's average ::) 16 tons, 6 120+, compared to 3 and 1 in 2015...

umm 58.7% increase in scoring for a guy in his 6th year in the comp. Went from irrelevant to starter.

Dochers was huge with a 25% increase from premo to uber premo. But dont worry he will go back down again so we dont have to worry. HBFer blip.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on September 22, 2016, 01:45:15 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 20, 2016, 05:41:15 PM
9 trades for us so far, and I think we might be done  :-X

6hrs later...

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 20, 2016, 11:38:08 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on September 20, 2016, 11:36:36 PM
BIG TRADE HERE!

PNL Gives: N52 + PSD 14
NY Gives: T. Miles + R31

Reason: I like Miles and have for several seasons. He'll join the rest of the backs I like but never eventuate into anything.

Confirmed

HP's been asking for years for Miles, so happy to do it :)

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 21, 2016, 11:41:54 AM
Quote from: GoLions on September 21, 2016, 11:40:14 AM
Cairo trade: N21, N57
New York trade: Jesse White, N38, PSD13

Reasoning: White has fwd status

RD/AK to confirm.

Confirmed

Cairo needs a forward and White averaged 75 which isn't bad at all, plus Cloke leaving could help more


Classic RD  ;D
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 22, 2016, 01:55:33 PM
Wilbur looks likely to change AFL clubs and he'll probably go to whoever can offer him the most opportunity at AFL level.

Had a couple of enquiries about him so I'll let everyone know that he is most certainly available.

Best case scenario: he goes to Richmond, injury prone Hampson gets injured, Minson plays as #1 ruck and averages 80+
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 22, 2016, 01:57:55 PM
Haha Rico!

Well we we're done, those last two trades are more or less nothing trades, just getting the list size right :)

Quote from: Holz on September 22, 2016, 12:47:07 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 22, 2016, 12:44:57 PM

All-Australian defender with unquestionable JS, and the reigning WXV Coaches Award recipient. Ask yourself, where would a 78.55 averaging defender sit in your defence? D3? D2?


If all things turn out right for Dublin D5 D6 :P

You're assuming Yarran will actually play though :P

Talia would be D3 for us. Well, our Ressies  8)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: My Chumps on September 22, 2016, 05:51:34 PM
Now receiving offers for Dion Prestia. Get in fellas
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 22, 2016, 06:02:26 PM
Since Wilbur is the only ruck that I need I may be open to trading gun ruckman Jordan Roughead instead. A healthy 79.1 average without Tom Campbell in the team, and scores of 89 + 90 in the finals so far shows that he is really hitting his straps as a player. Cemented his spot as the #1 ruck and still just 25 years of age.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Jukes on September 22, 2016, 08:50:34 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 22, 2016, 01:34:35 PM
Quote from: Jukes on September 22, 2016, 01:30:43 PM
With those stats, how did that guy win the coaches award over a guy like Dochers who's average went from 87->109 with one score below Talia's average ::) 16 tons, 6 120+, compared to 3 and 1 in 2015...

umm 58.7% increase in scoring for a guy in his 6th year in the comp. Went from irrelevant to starter.

Dochers was huge with a 25% increase from premo to uber premo. But dont worry he will go back down again so we dont have to worry. HBFer blip.

Talia went from way-way-way below average to just acraping above average (75 is SC score average isn't it?). So he's literally an average player, why not give it to a rookie who went from a 0 average to 70s or 80s? That's a 100% average improvement! Nothing compared to an above average back to the #1 (or just about) SC backman in the comp
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 23, 2016, 03:09:39 PM
Blakely.

Older but better mid Thanks.

He's worth pick 1 so don't offer shower.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 24, 2016, 11:17:20 AM
Trade 105
New Delhi trade: Isaac Heeney, Nathan Hrovat + Pick 12
New Delhi receive: Steele Sidebottom + Pick 18

Mexico City trade: Steele Sidebottom, Shannon Hurn, Shaun Grigg + Rookie Pick 18
Mexico City receive: Heath Shaw, Taylor Adams + Pick 64

New York trade: Heath Shaw, Taylor Adams, Pick 18 + Pick 64
New York receive: Isaac Heeney, Shannon Hurn, Shaun Grigg, Nathan Hrovat, Pick 12 + Rookie Pick 18

Was just reminiscing over this trade.

Heeney is the future GOAT, Hurn and Grigg were very good and we landed Gresh with 12 as well as using Hrovat to land Tyson

And most coaches thought we we're the losers in this trade  8)

I think I'm actually in love with Heeney  ;D
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Levi434 on September 24, 2016, 11:29:51 AM
If anyone has a mid to trade and is interested in Pick 19 send me a PM! 8)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Vinny on September 24, 2016, 11:42:11 AM
Andrew Swallow could be on the move soon.

Contracted until 2018, had no-preseason this year after surgery but expect him to get back to a solid 95 average.

Obviously has the ability to score with 5 years of 100+

Looking for a good forward, good pick and solid depth or a combination of any. Please don't offer up random spud depth.

Hit us up iZander and myself if you're interested.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 24, 2016, 12:05:24 PM
^^^ Sounds like you two could work something out
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on September 24, 2016, 07:18:52 PM
It's not like Meow was going to let it happen before now, but;

Clay Smith certainly isn't leaving Christchurch now.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: DazBurg on September 24, 2016, 07:25:36 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 24, 2016, 07:18:52 PM
It's not like Meow was going to let it happen before now, but;

Clay Smith certainly isn't leaving Christchurch now.  :P
Or he'll sell him while at a high and get someone to over pay for him ;)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 25, 2016, 02:26:05 PM
Torp coming through with some real cracking trade offers today
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Vinny on September 25, 2016, 02:35:45 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 25, 2016, 02:26:05 PM
Torp coming through with some real cracking trade offers today
Standard
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on September 25, 2016, 02:43:15 PM
JB just overrating a  defender who has been quality for one year?   :-X

Funny how I supposedly put out all these bad offers, but then have my trades negged because I lose by too much.    :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 25, 2016, 03:35:31 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 25, 2016, 02:43:15 PM
JB just overrating a  defender who has been quality for one year?   :-X

Funny how I supposedly put out all these bad offers, but then have my trades negged because I lose by too much.    :P

Come on Torp. Hooker was quality for only one year too and you overrated him :P

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on September 25, 2016, 03:46:06 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 25, 2016, 03:35:31 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 25, 2016, 02:43:15 PM
JB just overrating a  defender who has been quality for one year?   :-X

Funny how I supposedly put out all these bad offers, but then have my trades negged because I lose by too much.    :P

Come on Torp. Hooker was quality for only one year too and you overrated him :P
Yes but I'm offering up Crisp like quality and pretty much getting told to GTFO.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ringo on September 25, 2016, 05:02:17 PM
Both Mitch Clark and Tom Lonergan have decided they are too old for the youthful London Royals and have requested trades.
So we will trade both or either for late International Picks. Clark averaged 64 in 2015 so could be a handy forawrd back up for those chasing forwards and Lonergan is a solid defender who will play every game and average 60.
So hit us up.
Also Mayne and Hartung/Langford available for a starting M4.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Jroo on September 25, 2016, 06:13:55 PM
For those that were interested in Harley Bennell earlier, he could be gone soon
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Vinny on September 25, 2016, 06:19:21 PM
Hickey likely to be traded soon too, if anyone is still interested, now is the time.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Levi434 on September 25, 2016, 06:37:34 PM
Levi is looking for an old washed up mid. Send him a PM to discuss. He has lots of backs + Nat19 to give.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on September 25, 2016, 06:50:19 PM
3 teams left to vote (Seoul, Tokyo & Cape Town).

The following trades have received 0 votes so far, and hence will auto-pass:

Trade 31
Rio de Janeiro trade: Pick 38
New York trade: Jack Redpath + Jonathan Griffin

Trade 32
Dublin trade: Pick 17, Pick 27, Pick 36, Pick 45 + Pick 51
PNL trade: Justin Westhoff, Hugh Greenwood + Tim Golds

Trade 33
Christchurch trade: Matthew Boyd + Jeremy Finlayson
Rio de Janeiro trade: Robert Murphy

Trade 34
Beijing trade: Pick 29
Christchurch trade: Mason Cox + Sharrod Wellingham

Trade 35
Christchurch trade: Pick 29 + Pick 44
New York trade: Jarrad Waite

Trade 36
PNL trade: Pick 52 + PSD Pick 14
New York trade: Teia Miles + Rookie Pick 31

Trade 37
Cairo trade: Pick 21 + Pick 57
New York trade: Jesse White, Pick 38 + PSD Pick 13
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 25, 2016, 07:03:15 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 25, 2016, 02:43:15 PM
JB just overrating a  defender who has been quality for one year?   :-X

Funny how I supposedly put out all these bad offers, but then have my trades negged because I lose by too much.    :P

Im overrating players and you want Oliver + Mcintosh for Bastinac?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 25, 2016, 07:17:35 PM
Can I neg the London/Rio trade since Lonergan isn't a mid?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Vinny on September 25, 2016, 07:42:25 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 25, 2016, 07:03:15 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 25, 2016, 02:43:15 PM
JB just overrating a  defender who has been quality for one year?   :-X

Funny how I supposedly put out all these bad offers, but then have my trades negged because I lose by too much.    :P

Im overrating players and you want Oliver + Mcintosh for Bastinac?
Easton Wood + Andrew Swallow for Bastinac + potato.

Bastinac GOAT?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ringo on September 25, 2016, 09:31:22 PM
Quote from: Vinny on September 25, 2016, 07:42:25 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 25, 2016, 07:03:15 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 25, 2016, 02:43:15 PM
JB just overrating a  defender who has been quality for one year?   :-X

Funny how I supposedly put out all these bad offers, but then have my trades negged because I lose by too much.    :P

Im overrating players and you want Oliver + Mcintosh for Bastinac?
Easton Wood + Andrew Swallow for Bastinac + potato.

Bastinac GOAT?
Mayne, Jesse Lonergan and Hartung for Bastinac and N42?

Bastinac GOAT
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 25, 2016, 09:33:03 PM
LMAO! This is great

I'd offer Heeney + Stringer for Basti, but I don't think it's enough  :'(

Basti GOAT
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on September 25, 2016, 09:36:02 PM
Quote from: Vinny on September 25, 2016, 07:42:25 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 25, 2016, 07:03:15 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 25, 2016, 02:43:15 PM
JB just overrating a  defender who has been quality for one year?   :-X

Funny how I supposedly put out all these bad offers, but then have my trades negged because I lose by too much.    :P

Im overrating players and you want Oliver + Mcintosh for Bastinac?
Easton Wood + Andrew Swallow for Bastinac + potato.

Bastinac GOAT?
It didn't say potato and you know it.  ::)

So I thought I was being fair with my offers, then an offer gets negged because we get destroyed (obviously) so I readjust my markers and get this backlash?

I'm happy to discuss counter offers, and it really speaks volumes on your personalities if you'd rather just have a whinge.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on September 25, 2016, 09:50:23 PM
In Torp's defence, Basti's scoring will likely improve a heap after the AFL team he plays for wins the premiership next year.

#BASTIGOAT
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Nige on September 25, 2016, 10:44:34 PM
Torp's scoring will improve when Bastinac trades him. #bigmovezbasti
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on September 25, 2016, 10:48:52 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 25, 2016, 10:44:34 PM
Torp's scoring will improve when Bastinac trades him. #bigmovezbasti
This is the logic every coach should know is true.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Levi434 on September 25, 2016, 11:40:35 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 25, 2016, 07:17:35 PM
Can I neg the London/Rio trade since Lonergan isn't a mid?

Lonergan isn't a mid ATM but after round 7 when Lonergan is averaging 156, the SC managers will ban him as a back as he is too overpowered! So therefore making him a mid only.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on September 26, 2016, 01:11:23 PM
absolutely stoked to pick up Hoff and Greenwood.

I knew greenwood was doing ok in the SANFL but i just looked up his finals performances.

22 touches (17 contested), 2 marks, 11 tackles, 2 goals and Score Assist
16 touches (11 contested), 4 marks, 10 tackles , 2 goals and a Score Assist.
15 touches (10 contested), 1 mark,4 tackles and 3 goals

I think i have found a new "Dublin Boy" to hype up.

No he isnt for sale.

How many guys have represented Australia in a actual competition (not a international rules friendly)
(http://www.aussiehoopla.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Greenwood.jpg)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 26, 2016, 04:56:49 PM
Jason Tutt was the Australian Captain in the under 17's world champion softball team and hasn't he set the AFL world on fire!?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Adamant on September 27, 2016, 03:43:16 PM
Jack Ziebell will be out the door very soon. If you wanted to make an offer, speak now or forever hold your peace.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on September 27, 2016, 05:05:37 PM
One more coach to vote (Cape Town), whom have until midnight tomorrow else they miss the deadline...

But I've made up my mind anyway on the one trade in dispute:

Trade 31
Rio de Janeiro trade: Pick 38
New York trade: Jack Redpath + Jonathan Griffin
Votes: 0
Admin Comments: Meh.
Verdict: PASS

Trade 32
Dublin trade: Pick 17, Pick 27, Pick 36, Pick 45 + Pick 51
PNL trade: Justin Westhoff, Hugh Greenwood + Tim Golds
Votes: 0
Admin Comments: Picks galore!
Verdict: PASS

Trade 33
Christchurch trade: Matthew Boyd + Jeremy Finlayson
Rio de Janeiro trade: Robert Murphy
Votes: 0
Admin Comments: I would have been surprised if I was meow and was asked specifically for Jeremy Finlayson :P
Verdict: PASS

Trade 34
Beijing trade: Pick 29
Christchurch trade: Mason Cox + Sharrod Wellingham
Votes: 0
Admin Comments: Makes me rethink even more on the true value of what was added to Fiorini a while back :P
Verdict: PASS

Trade 35
Christchurch trade: Pick 29 + Pick 44
New York trade: Jarrad Waite
Votes: 0
Admin Comments: Meh.
Verdict: PASS

Trade 36
PNL trade: Pick 52 + PSD Pick 14
New York trade: Teia Miles + Rookie Pick 31
Votes: 0
Admin Comments: Teia Miles huh?
Verdict: PASS

Trade 37
Cairo trade: Pick 21 + Pick 57
New York trade: Jesse White, Pick 38 + PSD Pick 13
Votes: 0
Admin Comments: Cairo rackin up the forward guns ;) but glad they're building some nice depth!
Verdict: PASS

Trade 38
New Delhi trade: Stephen Coniglio, Luke Partington, Zachary Clarke + Jack Hannath
Moscow trade: Robbie Gray + Dominic Sheed
Votes: 3
Admin Comments: Couple of coaches reckon Moscow win, the other thinks New Delhi wins. I personally would rather Gray + Sheed over those 4, but I see enough merit behind the trade to withhold overturning the PASS decision (assuming Cape Town negs).
Verdict: PASS
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 27, 2016, 05:12:19 PM
Finlayson is almost AFL quality and an excellent kick. He'd be getting games in another team but with Patfull retiring he might get some games soon if a defender goes down. Astute trading by Levi.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on September 27, 2016, 05:20:56 PM
for some reason i thought my shache trade was in this batch and was wondering if it was rejected as it wasn't on the list.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on September 27, 2016, 05:32:09 PM
Thread updated

WXV Player Lists & Draft Order (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,108063.0.html)

Spreadsheet updated

WXV Trade Centre (http://jmp.sh/g3v7gq1)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 27, 2016, 05:38:04 PM
NDT Flag Favourites now?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on September 27, 2016, 05:42:15 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 27, 2016, 05:38:04 PM
NDT Flag Favourites now?

They have done extremely well in the off season.

should change there name to the      New Dehli "Red Paper Clips"

Still wouldn't have them flag favorites though. Dont think you can go past Dublin who have improved, after stepping back last year in my mini rebuild.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 27, 2016, 05:42:44 PM
Plenty of contenders.

Mexico City, Dublin, Rio, NDT, NY, Berlin, Chokers, Pacific, Seoul, Christchurch all with strong teams. Pendlebury also a threat if he's in form.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on September 27, 2016, 05:47:11 PM
Oh god please let Fyfe & Gawn play 22 games each next year
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Levi434 on September 27, 2016, 07:54:19 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 27, 2016, 05:12:19 PM
Finlayson is almost AFL quality and an excellent kick. He'd be getting games in another team but with Patfull retiring he might get some games soon if a defender goes down. Astute trading by Levi.

Thank You. *Blushes*
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Vinny on September 28, 2016, 01:31:14 AM
Quote from: meow meow on September 27, 2016, 05:42:44 PM
Plenty of contenders.

Mexico City, Dublin, Rio, NDT, NY, Berlin, Chokers, Pacific, Seoul, Christchurch all with strong teams. Pendlebury also a threat if he's in form.
#Pendlesandtheboys2017
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Hellopplz on September 28, 2016, 01:43:44 AM
Hey! PNL just don't like Finals... Our players just can't get over the hump :'(.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Hellopplz on September 28, 2016, 12:48:23 PM
I'm glad you changed the reasoning for your trade Torpy, considering Conigs isn't even apart of this deal :P.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on September 28, 2016, 12:54:16 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 27, 2016, 05:38:04 PM
NDT Flag Favourites now?
Ha not quite. Still nowhere near Dublin/Mexico level

Quote from: Holz on September 27, 2016, 05:42:15 PM
They have done extremely well in the off season.

should change there name to the      New Dehli "Red Paper Clips"
As in the guy that turned a Red Paper Clip into a House?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on September 28, 2016, 12:58:25 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 27, 2016, 05:42:15 PM
They have done extremely well in the off season.

should change there name to the      New Dehli "Red Paper Clips"
As in the guy that turned a Red Paper Clip into a House?
[/quote]

Yep,

im happy you got that reference.

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Nige on September 28, 2016, 12:58:53 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on September 28, 2016, 12:48:23 PM
I'm glad you changed the reasoning for your trade Torpy, considering Conigs isn't even apart of this deal :P.
For the uninformed: http://prnt.sc/cn6o9z
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on September 28, 2016, 01:07:33 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 28, 2016, 12:58:53 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on September 28, 2016, 12:48:23 PM
I'm glad you changed the reasoning for your trade Torpy, considering Conigs isn't even apart of this deal :P.
For the uninformed: http://prnt.sc/cn6o9z
Yeh was split up to give Torp assurance that he'll definitely get Conigs first
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Nige on September 28, 2016, 01:21:18 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 28, 2016, 01:07:33 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 28, 2016, 12:58:53 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on September 28, 2016, 12:48:23 PM
I'm glad you changed the reasoning for your trade Torpy, considering Conigs isn't even apart of this deal :P.
For the uninformed: http://prnt.sc/cn6o9z
Yeh was split up to give Torp assurance that he'll definitely get Conigs first
Haha yeah, I knew why you did it.

Just thought it was amusing and gave context to Bunny's post haha.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on September 28, 2016, 03:18:32 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 27, 2015, 11:34:49 AM
Quote from: meow meow on October 27, 2015, 11:28:58 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 27, 2015, 11:15:38 AM
You're trade is the other way around, because you're giving 2 oldies to a team that wont win the flag

Rio would be a contender with Thommo + SJ. Their best XV would average about 150 which puts them in the top 4. From there anything can happen. You don't have to have the best team to win. Like when I whooped Dublin in the Champions League final (even without Sam Mitchell).

100% agree with you Meow. Its why im doing the trade. I have realised that being the number 1 team in the comp means nothing. i was clearly the best team in Worlds and walked away with no premiership or champs medal.

losing thommo and SJ severely weakens my team and pulls me back to the pack. But helps me stay in the top 4 for longer.

Rio are a major major threat and im probably most scared of them after Mexico as they have the super high ceiling,.

So i was looking over last years trade thread and found some blinders.

1. RD looks like Rio could win the flag :p
2. I had them 3rd for the flag, after Dublin and Mexico.
3. Old man SJ who was only going to play 1 more year, just contracted to play another year.

yes this is a brag post. But might as well chuck this in there when people tell me i have no clue or im being bias.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on September 28, 2016, 03:26:37 PM
In actual Trade news, Dublin is basically officially closed for trading untill I know what NDS is doing.

Very happy with the squad so cant see any trade enticing me. 
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on September 28, 2016, 03:31:35 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 28, 2016, 03:26:37 PM
In actual Trade news, Dublin is basically officially closed for trading untill I know what NDS is doing.

Very happy with the squad so cant see any trade enticing me.
N2 for NDS and treloar
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Koop on September 28, 2016, 03:34:45 PM
Quote from: GoLions on September 28, 2016, 03:31:35 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 28, 2016, 03:26:37 PM
In actual Trade news, Dublin is basically officially closed for trading untill I know what NDS is doing.

Very happy with the squad so cant see any trade enticing me.
N2 for NDS and treloar
Nah man, that's way unders, gotta entice him with Bastinac.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 28, 2016, 03:35:02 PM
He's retiring. Spoke to him the other day and he said Collingwood were keen for a bit but now want Wells instead and won't take them both.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 28, 2016, 03:40:01 PM
Willing to trade 8 for a couple around the 20 mark. Can add 37/39/PSD 8
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on September 28, 2016, 03:41:22 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 28, 2016, 03:35:02 PM
He's retiring. Spoke to him the other day and he said Collingwood were keen for a bit but now want Wells instead and won't take them both.

knowing you, you could well have spoken to him and be telling the truth.

But equally could be flat out lying.

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on September 28, 2016, 05:56:27 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 28, 2016, 01:21:18 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 28, 2016, 01:07:33 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 28, 2016, 12:58:53 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on September 28, 2016, 12:48:23 PM
I'm glad you changed the reasoning for your trade Torpy, considering Conigs isn't even apart of this deal :P.
For the uninformed: http://prnt.sc/cn6o9z
Yeh was split up to give Torp assurance that he'll definitely get Conigs first
Haha yeah, I knew why you did it.

Just thought it was amusing and gave context to Bunny's post haha.
We wanted the deal combined with the Coniglio deal as per original, but that wasn't agreed to by all parties.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 28, 2016, 10:04:23 PM
Officially the 25th best player of ALL TIME, Jobe Watson could be yours if you want him. Fresh off a little break he's back, better than ever. His father played until he was well into his 40's so the genetics are strong. Essendon are going to win the premiership so Jobe will automatically get 10 points extra every week just for being in a winning team.

I'm looking to package him with Luke Breust who'll be around about the 20th best forward when the fake forwards like Barlow lose their undeserved classifications. Breust alone is worth a 95 average mid of the same age, and with Jobe on top of that it'll be more expensive, so this will probably amount to naught when the junk offers flow in.

Just like Blakely this will get no serious bites. But 2 starters for one should be taken seriously.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on September 28, 2016, 10:25:20 PM
Also picks 37 + 39 and PSD 8 + 26 look like they'll be forfeited due to my list size and inability to get any trades done with you unreasonable lot. I basically gave Wellingham away and could do the same with these if anyone wants them (preference given to teams that I've got a good trading history with).
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Levi434 on September 29, 2016, 08:35:36 PM
If you need back depth:

- Taylor Hunt averaged 69.5 this year and showed signs of a breakout. I expect him to average 75 so very solid D4 material and still young.

- Andrew Mackie averaged 70 this year and will average 70 next year.

If you need forward depth:

- Cameron Pedersen went at 68 and is great cover when he plays.

- Chris Dawes only went at 52 but you may want to consider that Dawes + Pedersen is a combo where one is guaranteed to play each week, so you should always have an option.

- Josh Walker still fairly young and is a decent short term option.


If interested in any of these send me a PM. :)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 01, 2016, 11:08:31 AM
Was really happy to get McGlynn for SDT, especially when at the time of agreeing to the trade I read McGlynn literally said a week earlier that he wants to play on next year, but now all the talk I'm hearing is that it could be his last game today  :'(
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 02, 2016, 06:42:48 PM
Tom Boyd with an 82 finals average and Clay with a low of 86 in his 101 finals average. Along with Higgo, Breust and Waite that should be a decent forward line for next season so a guy like Vandenberg can move for a pick or a mid. Injury ravaged last year, averaged 75 in his first season coming off no preseason due to his shoulder. No reason why he won't be a 70+ forward next year.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on October 02, 2016, 06:45:28 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 02, 2016, 06:42:48 PM
Tom Boyd with an 82 finals average and Clay with a low of 86 in his 101 finals average. Along with Higgo, Breust and Waite that should be a decent forward line for next season so a guy like Vandenberg can move for a pick or a mid. Injury ravaged last year, averaged 75 in his first season coming off no preseason due to his shoulder. No reason why he won't be a 70+ forward next year.

Tom Boyd was a great pick up.

Basically picked him up at his cheapest, when he should have been his most expensive given he has down the usual key forward development so not too long till you reap the rewards.

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 02, 2016, 06:46:45 PM
After that finals series, will now consider a Top 3 pick or 110+ mid for Liam Picken, who should have fwd dpp too

;D
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on October 02, 2016, 07:35:34 PM
Left to vote:
Buenos Aires Armadillos
Moscow Spetnaz
Paris Nice Lyon Reindeers
Rio de Janeiro Jaguars
Seoul Magpies
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on October 02, 2016, 07:43:24 PM
BAM! 3 votes in 5 minutes :P

Can say Trade 39 & 40 will auto-pass

Trade 39
Dublin trade: Heath Grundy, Neville Jetta + Josh Bruce
London trade: Josh Schace + Daniel Nielson

Trade 40
London trade: Mitch Clark + Tom Lonergan
Rio de Janeiro trade: Pick 74 + Pick 92
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Levi434 on October 02, 2016, 08:01:06 PM
Chuffed to get the number 1 SC mid
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on October 03, 2016, 08:49:38 AM
1 more vote to go, but Trade 41 now auto-passes

Trade 41
Dublin trade: Ciaran Byrne
Beijing trade: Braydon Preuss + Pick 47
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on October 03, 2016, 10:03:05 AM
Nice so pretty much got my team to the best it has ever been.

geez this years trade period was nice, actually no stress
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Vinny on October 03, 2016, 11:57:45 AM
Have two Top 15 pick offers for Andrew Swallow. If anyone else would like him, hit iZander and I up! Gone very soon.

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Jroo on October 03, 2016, 10:33:45 PM
Who has all the forwards  ??? ???
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 03, 2016, 10:47:41 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 03, 2016, 10:33:45 PM
Who has all the forwards  ??? ???

You just traded one out!

There is not a lot of them available until will find out who gets DPP
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 04, 2016, 01:25:07 AM
Cairo have Garlett.

I just traded another one out. Leaving just Boyd, Clay, Breust, Higgins, Waite, Steele, Hoskin-Elliott, Langford, Vardy, McLean, Dickson, Lester, Anderson and Stewart. Woe is me.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Nige on October 04, 2016, 09:51:20 AM
But who has all the forwards?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on October 04, 2016, 10:21:32 AM
Quote from: meow meow on October 04, 2016, 01:25:07 AM
Cairo have Garlett.

I just traded another one out. Leaving just Boyd, Clay, Breust, Higgins, Waite, Steele, Hoskin-Elliott, Langford, Vardy, McLean, Dickson, Lester, Anderson and Stewart. Woe is me.

Well it depends you can go into the season with that weak forward line, or trade out someone from another line to put some starters in rather then bench cover.

But thats really robbing peter to pay paul.

I actually think you have a bit of potential there so wouldnt be too harsh on that forward line.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 04, 2016, 10:53:35 AM
McGlynn says he wants to play on

Trade Waite and White

McGlynn now might not play on

Whoops! :(
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on October 04, 2016, 11:04:20 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 04, 2016, 09:51:20 AM
But who has all the forwards?

PNL has them all.

in saying that I have targeted mass forwards this year besides losing Buddy.

Gunston Jroo Hoff Daw Schache Kennedy my elites

Turner Silvagni Greenwood with potential

Schoey Crocker Dale possible bench cover.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 04, 2016, 11:25:14 AM
Those last 3 elites belong in the potential list ;)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: ossie85 on October 04, 2016, 11:28:42 AM

I hear Berlin are trading Fyfe, Steven, Franklin, Liberatore, all its draft picks and an escort service to Moscow for Jesse Hogan, after today's announcement....
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 04, 2016, 12:26:03 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 04, 2016, 10:21:32 AM
Quote from: meow meow on October 04, 2016, 01:25:07 AM
Cairo have Garlett.

I just traded another one out. Leaving just Boyd, Clay, Breust, Higgins, Waite, Steele, Hoskin-Elliott, Langford, Vardy, McLean, Dickson, Lester, Anderson and Stewart. Woe is me.

Well it depends you can go into the season with that weak forward line, or trade out someone from another line to put some starters in rather then bench cover.

But thats really robbing peter to pay paul.

I actually think you have a bit of potential there so wouldnt be too harsh on that forward line.

The woe is me line was a little bit of sarcasm. Bunch of guns.

Waite: will average 90
Higgo: bounce back to 95
Breust: 85ish every year without fail
Clay: 80 at least, goal kicking tackling machine
Boyd: won't look back 80 ruck/forward
Steele: 85+ in the St kilda midfield
WHE: 77 unsubbed at GWS one year, will do the same at the Pies, maybe better
Langford: 70 with a bullet
McLean: 75+ and a million frees for too high
Vardy: new club, will live up to his potential. 82 average.
Dickson: will have a preseason, back to 77
Lester: new coach with a clue about anything will put him back on the wing where he averaged 78
Stewart: will be the #1 forward at Carlton this time next year, 75+
Anderson: will have more importance in the NM team, plays every week for 70

Not all of them have to happen for the forward line to be decent. But all of them will happen. If anything I'm being conservative.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on October 04, 2016, 12:34:41 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 04, 2016, 12:26:03 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 04, 2016, 10:21:32 AM
Quote from: meow meow on October 04, 2016, 01:25:07 AM
Cairo have Garlett.

I just traded another one out. Leaving just Boyd, Clay, Breust, Higgins, Waite, Steele, Hoskin-Elliott, Langford, Vardy, McLean, Dickson, Lester, Anderson and Stewart. Woe is me.

Well it depends you can go into the season with that weak forward line, or trade out someone from another line to put some starters in rather then bench cover.

But thats really robbing peter to pay paul.

I actually think you have a bit of potential there so wouldnt be too harsh on that forward line.

The woe is me line was a little bit of sarcasm. Bunch of guns.

Waite: will average 90
Higgo: bounce back to 95
Breust: 85ish every year without fail
Clay: 80 at least, goal kicking tackling machine
Boyd: won't look back 80 ruck/forward
Steele: 85+ in the St kilda midfield
WHE: 77 unsubbed at GWS one year, will do the same at the Pies, maybe better
Langford: 70 with a bullet
McLean: 75+ and a million frees for too high
Vardy: new club, will live up to his potential. 82 average.
Dickson: will have a preseason, back to 77
Lester: new coach with a clue about anything will put him back on the wing where he averaged 78
Stewart: will be the #1 forward at Carlton this time next year, 75+
Anderson: will have more importance in the NM team, plays every week for 70

Not all of them have to happen for the forward line to be decent. But all of them will happen. If anything I'm being conservative.
Youll be lucky to get all of Higgo, Clay and Waite on the field at the same time though :P

Way to early to call boyd after 53 average this year, was looking better torwards the end of the season but a call of 80 is big :P I like it!

Steele is a beast :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on October 04, 2016, 12:41:41 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 04, 2016, 12:26:03 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 04, 2016, 10:21:32 AM
Quote from: meow meow on October 04, 2016, 01:25:07 AM
Cairo have Garlett.

I just traded another one out. Leaving just Boyd, Clay, Breust, Higgins, Waite, Steele, Hoskin-Elliott, Langford, Vardy, McLean, Dickson, Lester, Anderson and Stewart. Woe is me.

Well it depends you can go into the season with that weak forward line, or trade out someone from another line to put some starters in rather then bench cover.

But thats really robbing peter to pay paul.

I actually think you have a bit of potential there so wouldnt be too harsh on that forward line.

The woe is me line was a little bit of sarcasm. Bunch of guns.

Waite: will average 90
Higgo: bounce back to 95
Breust: 85ish every year without fail
Clay: 80 at least, goal kicking tackling machine
Boyd: won't look back 80 ruck/forward
Steele: 85+ in the St kilda midfield
WHE: 77 unsubbed at GWS one year, will do the same at the Pies, maybe better
Langford: 70 with a bullet
McLean: 75+ and a million frees for too high
Vardy: new club, will live up to his potential. 82 average.
Dickson: will have a preseason, back to 77
Lester: new coach with a clue about anything will put him back on the wing where he averaged 78
Stewart: will be the #1 forward at Carlton this time next year, 75+
Anderson: will have more importance in the NM team, plays every week for 70

Not all of them have to happen for the forward line to be decent. But all of them will happen. If anything I'm being conservative.

I know thats what you were saying.

But you dont have any true guns.

Breust is super solid but he is a F2 really F3.
Higgo i like if he can stay healthy and he is a F2 pushin F1
Boyd i reckon you got at his cheapest, the guy can play was always going to take some time, he will be better but not there yet.
Steele i like in the right role

I dont really like the rest of them being more then F4s.

Anderson i reckon wont go near 70. he hasnt even put up 70 in his last 2 years. I also think he has competition from Garner and Turner in the small forward role and clarke dummonts hibberd in the small mid role. I was very very underwhelmed with him as most north fans were.

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: elephants on October 04, 2016, 12:42:33 PM
All this chat is good, but wtf is the bloke doing who has the final trade vote?!?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on October 04, 2016, 12:44:39 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 04, 2016, 12:42:33 PM
All this chat is good, but wtf is the bloke doing who has the final trade vote?!?
Could that trade vote be from the unassigned team? ;)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on October 04, 2016, 12:50:08 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on October 04, 2016, 11:28:42 AM

I hear Berlin are trading Fyfe, Steven, Franklin, Liberatore, all its draft picks and an escort service to Moscow for Jesse Hogan, after today's announcement....

Still riding the high, so will chuck in Gawn, Viney and Hibberd too!

Quote from: iZander on October 04, 2016, 12:44:39 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 04, 2016, 12:42:33 PM
All this chat is good, but wtf is the bloke doing who has the final trade vote?!?
Could that trade vote be from the unassigned team? ;)

At uni so I can't do any official yet, but I have recently got the last vote.

It's got 4 votes that, and it will probably pass. But I'm still thinking about it.

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Levi434 on October 04, 2016, 12:55:39 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 04, 2016, 12:42:33 PM
All this chat is good, but wtf is the bloke or lady doing who has the final trade vote?!?

Fixed it. We're PC here on FF.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 04, 2016, 02:53:03 PM
Nobody has any true guns in the forward line next year m8. 85+ from a forward will definitely be premo territory in WXV.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on October 04, 2016, 03:03:09 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 04, 2016, 02:53:03 PM
Nobody has any true guns in the forward line next year m8. 85+ from a forward will definitely be premo territory in WXV.

well Gunston Hoff Jroo all 85+

Mexico has Lids, Nroo, Betts and maybe Bennell

but your right most of the top forwards will lose dpp but i reckon quite a few will get rubbish calls like Monty did this year.

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Levi434 on October 04, 2016, 03:06:01 PM
GAJ will be a forward next year. 8)

Will demand compo if he isn't.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on October 04, 2016, 03:10:06 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on October 04, 2016, 03:06:01 PM
GAJ will be a forward next year. 8)

Will demand compo if he isn't.

doesnt matter if he was F/M/D/R if he is out injured :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 04, 2016, 03:19:28 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 04, 2016, 03:03:09 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 04, 2016, 02:53:03 PM
Nobody has any true guns in the forward line next year m8. 85+ from a forward will definitely be premo territory in WXV.

well Gunston Hoff Jroo all 85+

Mexico has Lids, Nroo, Betts and maybe Bennell

but your right most of the top forwards will lose dpp but i reckon quite a few will get rubbish calls like Monty did this year.

JJK and Tippett can go 85+ and I reckon Heeney might get there too

Menzel coming off a 82 ain't bad either

And lets hope The Package improves

Would love to see McGlynn go around again because when fit he can go 85+ too
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on October 04, 2016, 04:41:34 PM
Trade 39
Dublin trade: Heath Grundy, Neville Jetta + Josh Bruce
London trade: Josh Schace + Daniel Nielson
Votes: 1
Admin Comment: Actually like this trade, despite rating Schache. Helps London with cap & competitiveness, helps Dublin with cap whilst getting quality too.
Verdict: PASS

Trade 40
London trade: Mitch Clark + Tom Lonergan
Rio de Janeiro trade: Pick 74 + Pick 92
Votes: 0
Admin Comment: Rio trying to break the record for highest salary cap :P
Verdict: PASS

Trade 41
Dublin trade: Ciaran Byrne
Beijing trade: Braydon Preuss + Pick 47
Votes: 2
Admin Comment: When fit, Byrne could be quality, and some stated only the ACL made it OK
Verdict: PASS

Trade 42
New Delhi trades: Tomas Bugg + Jarman Impey
Moscow trades: Nick Vlastuin
Votes: 4
Admin Comment: Not sure whether to assess this trade together with Coniglio trade (as it's clearly tied in with it --> see Torp's initial reasoning), or assess it by itself. A LOT of coaches expressed annoyance with how this was done, but let it pass anyway. But, amongst the four that did reject it, one said Moscow was winning by too much, the others said New Delhi was winning by too much. Given the reasoning of the one coach that said Moscow was winning by too much directly contradicts with what the others were saying, I don't see a solution that would make all of those coaches happy. The lack of cohesion between the reasons makes me lean towards the "3" vote barrier, rather than the "6" vote barrier. Assessing the trade by itself (which I'm dirty that I have to do), I can see the logic behind it, in that the defender Bugg (whom I think will be M only btw) only averaged one SC point less than Vlas; the gap of which is bridged with Jarman Impey. So yeah... I won't overturn the decision. The coaches involved know how I feel about this whole thing, though.
Verdict: PASS
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on October 04, 2016, 05:02:55 PM
Thread updated

WXV Player Lists & Draft Order (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,108063.0.html)

Spreadsheet updated

WXV Trade Centre (http://jmp.sh/g3v7gq1)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on October 04, 2016, 05:47:16 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 04, 2016, 03:03:09 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 04, 2016, 02:53:03 PM
Nobody has any true guns in the forward line next year m8. 85+ from a forward will definitely be premo territory in WXV.

well Gunston Hoff Jroo all 85+

Mexico has Lids, Nroo, Betts and maybe Bennell

but your right most of the top forwards will lose dpp but i reckon quite a few will get rubbish calls like Monty did this year.
Didn't Mexico trade Bennell?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Nige on October 04, 2016, 05:48:48 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 04, 2016, 05:47:16 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 04, 2016, 03:03:09 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 04, 2016, 02:53:03 PM
Nobody has any true guns in the forward line next year m8. 85+ from a forward will definitely be premo territory in WXV.

well Gunston Hoff Jroo all 85+

Mexico has Lids, Nroo, Betts and maybe Bennell

but your right most of the top forwards will lose dpp but i reckon quite a few will get rubbish calls like Monty did this year.
Didn't Mexico trade Bennell?
I figured that's why he said 'maybe Bennell' but I could be wrong.

It's possible he meant 'maybe Bennell' as a possible 85+ player though.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on October 04, 2016, 06:02:29 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 04, 2016, 05:48:48 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 04, 2016, 05:47:16 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 04, 2016, 03:03:09 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 04, 2016, 02:53:03 PM
Nobody has any true guns in the forward line next year m8. 85+ from a forward will definitely be premo territory in WXV.

well Gunston Hoff Jroo all 85+

Mexico has Lids, Nroo, Betts and maybe Bennell

but your right most of the top forwards will lose dpp but i reckon quite a few will get rubbish calls like Monty did this year.
Didn't Mexico trade Bennell?
I figured that's why he said 'maybe Bennell' but I could be wrong.

It's possible he meant 'maybe Bennell' as a possible 85+ player though.
Ah yep right.


On forwards though, does Gray get dpp?
I wasn't convinced but a few ppl mentioned he was a chance in their trade vote reasoning
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on October 04, 2016, 06:04:50 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 04, 2016, 06:02:29 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 04, 2016, 05:48:48 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 04, 2016, 05:47:16 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 04, 2016, 03:03:09 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 04, 2016, 02:53:03 PM
Nobody has any true guns in the forward line next year m8. 85+ from a forward will definitely be premo territory in WXV.

well Gunston Hoff Jroo all 85+

Mexico has Lids, Nroo, Betts and maybe Bennell

but your right most of the top forwards will lose dpp but i reckon quite a few will get rubbish calls like Monty did this year.
Didn't Mexico trade Bennell?
I figured that's why he said 'maybe Bennell' but I could be wrong.

It's possible he meant 'maybe Bennell' as a possible 85+ player though.
Ah yep right.


On forwards though, does Gray get dpp?
I wasn't convinced but a few ppl mentioned he was a chance in their trade vote reasoning
He better not.  :-X
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 04, 2016, 06:10:57 PM
No chance.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: DazBurg on October 04, 2016, 06:17:50 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 04, 2016, 06:10:57 PM
No chance.
+ 1
if he does there should be a few more before him to get it
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on October 05, 2016, 02:45:15 PM
Figured I'd make a post here after receiving between 7 and 272 PMs in the last few hours ;)

Basically everyone can be traded, no-one is ever really off the table.

Main priority is a starting ruckman, main trading chips are mids and I guess N7. Also looking for one more starting forward, doesn't have to be a gun, but depends who I'm trading as well.

If I either don't respond to a PM, or say I will and still haven't after a day or 2, it means I've probably missed it (literally been flooded by PMs now haha). So just chuck me another, or quote the original, and I'll get onto it ASAP :)

Had quite a bit of interest in JPK, Prestia, Miller, Parish, Honeychurch, and Hrovat so far, so if you're keen on any of them then hit me up! Will most likely be trading one of those mids at the very least.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on October 05, 2016, 04:49:02 PM
Parish will probably be gone soon for those that have asked about him
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2016, 04:52:02 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 05, 2016, 04:49:02 PM
Parish will probably be gone soon for those that have asked about him

Undoing all of Chumps hard work I see  :-X
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: elephants on October 05, 2016, 04:55:10 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2016, 04:52:02 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 05, 2016, 04:49:02 PM
Parish will probably be gone soon for those that have asked about him

Undoing all of Chumps hard work I see  :-X

Gotta give some to get some, I'd trade Parish if I had him.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on October 05, 2016, 04:58:04 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 05, 2016, 04:55:10 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2016, 04:52:02 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 05, 2016, 04:49:02 PM
Parish will probably be gone soon for those that have asked about him

Undoing all of Chumps hard work I see  :-X

Gotta give some to get some, I'd trade Parish if I had him.
Pretty much. Parish as E1 and an OOP ruck vs having an actual ruck... :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2016, 05:50:02 PM
LOL, was taking the piss lads
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: elephants on October 05, 2016, 06:11:57 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2016, 05:50:02 PM
LOL, was taking the piss lads

Haha so hard to tell when there's no :P ;D or haha :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on October 06, 2016, 01:05:29 PM
Tom Bell, David Armitage & Ryan Bastinac could all be out the door soon. Get your offers in!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: roo boys! on October 06, 2016, 10:08:43 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 06, 2016, 01:05:29 PM
Tom Bell, David Armitage & Ryan Bastinac could all be out the door soon. Get your offers in!
I'll grab Basti thanks
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Toga on October 07, 2016, 12:32:34 AM
Still shopping around the 7th best supercoacher in the land from last season LACHIE NEALE. 7th best in the competition and only 23 years old.

Enquire within.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on October 07, 2016, 01:34:25 AM
Quote from: Toga on October 07, 2016, 12:32:34 AM
Still shopping around the 7th best supercoacher in the land from last season LACHIE NEALE. 7th best in the competition and only 23 years old.

Enquire within.
Must. Resist.

Oh who am i kidding

Take all of NDT

Ele too
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Toga on October 07, 2016, 01:41:11 AM
Haha come geddit ;)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: elephants on October 07, 2016, 02:11:33 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2016, 01:34:25 AM
Quote from: Toga on October 07, 2016, 12:32:34 AM
Still shopping around the 7th best supercoacher in the land from last season LACHIE NEALE. 7th best in the competition and only 23 years old.

Enquire within.
Must. Resist.

Oh who am i kidding

Take all of NDT

Ele too

Haha that would clearly be negged, you gotta pay people to take me!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Jukes on October 07, 2016, 02:19:49 AM
If Neale's so good, why are you trying to trade him? #hardhittingquestions #togaexposed
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: AaronKirk on October 07, 2016, 02:52:11 AM
Quote from: Jukes on October 07, 2016, 02:19:49 AM
If Neale's so good, why are you trying to trade him? #hardhittingquestions #togaexposed

Very good point. We will happily take him off your hands Toga
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Toga on October 07, 2016, 03:22:31 AM
Because I have an itchy trigger finger boys and want to make some trades 8)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 07, 2016, 08:42:01 AM
He knows Fyfe returning will impact him ;)

Will still go 105+ easily though
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 07, 2016, 09:11:32 AM
McGlynn retires. Get flowered

Compo!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 07, 2016, 09:13:28 AM
Kinda regretting trading Waite and White now :(

We've gone from having too many forwards to now being a tad short lol

Compo!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Vinny on October 07, 2016, 09:13:40 AM
Why have Neale when you can have Pendles? ;)

Pendles + N12 for two starting midfielders. Hit us up!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 07, 2016, 09:25:35 AM
Gibbs won the longest kick competition.

Gibbs > Rocky
Gibbs > Neale
Gibbs > Pendlebury
Gibbs = Garlett
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on October 07, 2016, 09:46:51 AM
Insanely quick voting lately guys, awesome! Just three more teams to vote:

Moscow Spetnaz
Paris Nice Lyon Reindeers
Seoul Magpies

The following trades have received 0 votes, and hence will auto-pass:

Trade 44
Berlin trade: Chris Masten
Christchurch trade: Aaron Vandenberg + Pick 39

Trade 45
Berlin trade: Pick 55
Tokyo trade: Jonathon Beech

Trade 48
Pacific trade: Pick 13 + Pick 32
Buenos Aires trade: Andrew Swallow

Trade 49
Cape Town trade: Gary Rohan
Rio de Janeiro trade: Johnathan Griffin
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 07, 2016, 09:58:18 AM
Updated team(s)

B: Bob, McVeigh, Montagna, Dempster
M: Mitchell, Watson, Griffen, Gibbs
R: Sandilands
F: Boyd, Higgins, Waite, C Smith
I: Wells, Masten

B: Wilson, Lever, Andrews, C Ellis
M: Fiorini, Blakely, Steele, Neal-Bullen
R: Roughead
F: McLean, Langford, Hoskin-Elliott, Lester
I: Trengove, Anderson

B: McKenzie, McKenna, Silvagni
M: Wigg, 8, 16, 18
R: Vardy
F: Stewart
I: Minson, 29

Rookie #8, #15, #26, #32 will be used to find the next Harris Andrews

PSD #8 + #26, Rookie #44 unused

Abe Davis delisted.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on October 07, 2016, 10:06:07 AM
Quote from: Jukes on October 07, 2016, 02:19:49 AM
If Neale's so good, why are you trying to trade him? #hardhittingquestions #togaexposed

in fairness you droped Gray a much better player for not much.

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on October 07, 2016, 10:11:36 AM
Quote from: Holz on October 07, 2016, 10:06:07 AM
Quote from: Jukes on October 07, 2016, 02:19:49 AM
If Neale's so good, why are you trying to trade him? #hardhittingquestions #togaexposed

in fairness you droped Gray a much better player for not much.
You were offering even less.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on October 07, 2016, 10:43:26 AM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 07, 2016, 10:11:36 AM
Quote from: Holz on October 07, 2016, 10:06:07 AM
Quote from: Jukes on October 07, 2016, 02:19:49 AM
If Neale's so good, why are you trying to trade him? #hardhittingquestions #togaexposed

in fairness you droped Gray a much better player for not much.
You were offering even less.  :P

one of the deals you proposed was Selwood Rance for Gray Burton.

then

Treloar + Collins + 1st Round Nat for Gray + May + 2nd Round NAT. (this wasnt too shocking)

then

NicNat + Gray for Goldy + Treloar

basically Treloar a guy who had gone 107 106 111 was valued the same as a guy who went 84 91 106
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on October 07, 2016, 10:45:56 AM
2 more votes to come, but ALL trade will auto-pass.

The remaining two teams, be sure to still vote though!

Trade 43
Buenos Aires trade: Tom Hickey + Pick 54
Mexico City trade: Harley Bennell + Pick 25
Votes: 1
Admin Comments: Harley will pretty much determine whether this trade is a stinker or amazing for Mexico City
Verdict: PASS

Trade 44
Berlin trade: Chris Masten
Christchurch trade: Aaron Vandenberg + Pick 39
Votes: 0
Admin Comments: No more wincing at typing Masten's name in my XV anymore!
Verdict: PASS

Trade 45
Berlin trade: Pick 55
Tokyo trade: Jonathon Beech
Votes: 0
Admin Comments: Beech is the early favourite for the coaches award... provided he doesn't get delisted by Adelaide.
Verdict: PASS

Trade 46
New Delhi trade: Mitch Wallis + Dominic Sheed
Toronto trade: Jack Ziebell + Pick 40
Votes: 1
Admin Comments: Toronto's next trade makes me feel better at them assuming the injured Mitch Wallis. Great 2018 trade though for them!
Verdict: PASS

Trade 47
Toronto trade: Dominic Sheed + Pick 22
Cairo trade: Pearce Hanley + Pick 49
Votes: 1
Admin Comments: Moscow --> New Delhi ---> Toronto ---> Cairo. Keep passing the parcel Cairo!
Verdict: PASS

Trade 48
Pacific trade: Pick 13 + Pick 32
Buenos Aires trade: Andrew Swallow
Votes: 0
Admin Comments: Islanders on the board.
Verdict: PASS

Trade 49
Cape Town trade: Gary Rohan
Rio de Janeiro trade: Johnathan Griffin
Votes: 0
Admin Comments: Meh.
Verdict: PASS
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on October 07, 2016, 10:46:57 AM
Thread updated

WXV Player Lists & Draft Order (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,108063.0.html)

Spreadsheet updated

WXV Trade Centre (http://jmp.sh/g3v7gq1)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on October 07, 2016, 11:51:16 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 07, 2016, 08:42:01 AM
He knows Fyfe returning will impact him ;)

Will still go 105+ easily though
Yep, head says this.

Heart says...

(http://i64.tinypic.com/2a77xxh.jpg)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 07, 2016, 12:11:07 PM
LOL!  ;D
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on October 07, 2016, 12:22:21 PM
Can relate Ric.

There was a brief few days there where I almost convinced myself to trade Jack Steven for Hogan, but thankfully head prevailed and told me I needed to keep my midfield firepower  :-X
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on October 07, 2016, 12:37:11 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 28, 2016, 03:39:03 PM
Trade 9
New York trade: Nakia Cockatoo, Nathan Hrovat + Pick 33
Cape Town trade: Dom Tyson + Pick 44
Not gonna lie, Tyson would have been great right now :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on October 07, 2016, 12:39:58 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 07, 2016, 12:22:21 PM
Can relate Ric.

There was a brief few days there where I almost convinced myself to trade Jack Steven for Hogan, but thankfully head prevailed and told me I needed to keep my midfield firepower  :-X
Tough isn't it!


@meow

B: Wilson, Lever, Andrews, C Ellis
M: Blakely, Steele, Trengove, Neal-Bullen
R: Roughead
F: Boyd (R), McLean, Dickson, Hoskin-Elliott
I: Langford, McKenzie

vs

B: PDavis, Krakouer, Oxley, Mullett
M: JLloyd, Tucker, Robertson, ELangdon
R: Archie
F: Cloke, Griffiths, McCartin, Balic
I: O'Kearney, SiWhite


Thought we were looking pretty good, but having another look just realised how quality your 2s are lol
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on October 07, 2016, 12:41:38 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2016, 12:39:58 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 07, 2016, 12:22:21 PM
Can relate Ric.

There was a brief few days there where I almost convinced myself to trade Jack Steven for Hogan, but thankfully head prevailed and told me I needed to keep my midfield firepower  :-X
Tough isn't it!


@meow

B: Wilson, Lever, Andrews, C Ellis
M: Blakely, Steele, Trengove, Neal-Bullen
R: Roughead
F: Boyd (R), McLean, Dickson, Hoskin-Elliott
I: Langford, McKenzie

vs

B: PDavis, Krakouer, Oxley, Mullett
M: JLloyd, Tucker, Robertson, ELangdon
R: Archie
F: Cloke, Griffiths, McCartin, Balic
I: O'Kearney, SiWhite


Thought we were looking pretty good, but having another look just realised how quality your 2s are lol
CLOKE IN THE 2's???? wtf??
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on October 07, 2016, 12:49:14 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 07, 2016, 12:41:38 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2016, 12:39:58 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 07, 2016, 12:22:21 PM
Can relate Ric.

There was a brief few days there where I almost convinced myself to trade Jack Steven for Hogan, but thankfully head prevailed and told me I needed to keep my midfield firepower  :-X
Tough isn't it!


@meow

B: Wilson, Lever, Andrews, C Ellis
M: Blakely, Steele, Trengove, Neal-Bullen
R: Roughead
F: Boyd (R), McLean, Dickson, Hoskin-Elliott
I: Langford, McKenzie

vs

B: PDavis, Krakouer, Oxley, Mullett
M: JLloyd, Tucker, Robertson, ELangdon
R: Archie
F: Cloke, Griffiths, McCartin, Balic
I: O'Kearney, SiWhite


Thought we were looking pretty good, but having another look just realised how quality your 2s are lol
CLOKE IN THE 2's???? wtf??
IF Gray somehow manages fwd status then unfortunately Cloke 15.0 may have to start 2017 with Mumbaiiiiii

B: Houli, Howe, Hartlett, Vlastuin
M: Sidebottom, Murphy, MCrouch, Ziebell
R: SMartin
F: Gray, Darling, JMartin, JCameron
I: Ross, Rich
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Koop on October 07, 2016, 01:00:00 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2016, 12:49:14 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 07, 2016, 12:41:38 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2016, 12:39:58 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 07, 2016, 12:22:21 PM
Can relate Ric.

There was a brief few days there where I almost convinced myself to trade Jack Steven for Hogan, but thankfully head prevailed and told me I needed to keep my midfield firepower  :-X
Tough isn't it!


@meow

B: Wilson, Lever, Andrews, C Ellis
M: Blakely, Steele, Trengove, Neal-Bullen
R: Roughead
F: Boyd (R), McLean, Dickson, Hoskin-Elliott
I: Langford, McKenzie

vs

B: PDavis, Krakouer, Oxley, Mullett
M: JLloyd, Tucker, Robertson, ELangdon
R: Archie
F: Cloke, Griffiths, McCartin, Balic
I: O'Kearney, SiWhite


Thought we were looking pretty good, but having another look just realised how quality your 2s are lol
CLOKE IN THE 2's???? wtf??
IF Gray somehow manages fwd status then unfortunately Cloke 15.0 may have to start 2017 with Mumbaiiiiii

B: Houli, Howe, Hartlett, Vlastuin
M: Sidebottom, Murphy, MCrouch, Ziebell
R: SMartin
F: Gray, Darling, JMartin, JCameron
I: Ross, Rich

Jake Lloyd likely to be DEF/MID too FWIW
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 07, 2016, 02:04:04 PM
Jack Martin spend enough time forward? Looks like a gun half back now.

Quality depth there. Makes me wonder if there's some teams out there who'll play OOP's since there's lots of quality in some reserves teams.

That's a nice looking XV.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on October 07, 2016, 02:14:55 PM
Quote from: Koop on October 07, 2016, 01:00:00 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2016, 12:49:14 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 07, 2016, 12:41:38 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2016, 12:39:58 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 07, 2016, 12:22:21 PM
Can relate Ric.

There was a brief few days there where I almost convinced myself to trade Jack Steven for Hogan, but thankfully head prevailed and told me I needed to keep my midfield firepower  :-X
Tough isn't it!


@meow

B: Wilson, Lever, Andrews, C Ellis
M: Blakely, Steele, Trengove, Neal-Bullen
R: Roughead
F: Boyd (R), McLean, Dickson, Hoskin-Elliott
I: Langford, McKenzie

vs

B: PDavis, Krakouer, Oxley, Mullett
M: JLloyd, Tucker, Robertson, ELangdon
R: Archie
F: Cloke, Griffiths, McCartin, Balic
I: O'Kearney, SiWhite


Thought we were looking pretty good, but having another look just realised how quality your 2s are lol
CLOKE IN THE 2's???? wtf??
IF Gray somehow manages fwd status then unfortunately Cloke 15.0 may have to start 2017 with Mumbaiiiiii

B: Houli, Howe, Hartlett, Vlastuin
M: Sidebottom, Murphy, MCrouch, Ziebell
R: SMartin
F: Gray, Darling, JMartin, JCameron
I: Ross, Rich

Jake Lloyd likely to be DEF/MID too FWIW
Lovely.


Quote from: meow meow on October 07, 2016, 02:04:04 PM
Jack Martin spend enough time forward? Looks like a gun half back now.

Quality depth there. Makes me wonder if there's some teams out there who'll play OOP's since there's lots of quality in some reserves teams.

That's a nice looking XV.
Yeh he didn't move into defence until RD10-11 so should be a fwd/def.


And yep, Pacific is one that comes to mind who has some amazing depth
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on October 07, 2016, 02:43:53 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2016, 12:49:14 PM
[
B: Houli, Howe, Hartlett, Vlastuin
M: Sidebottom, Murphy, MCrouch, Ziebell
R: SMartin
F: Gray, Darling, JMartin, JCameron
I: Ross, Rich

Gray wont get forward stauts but still its an amazing squad.

done incredibly well in the trade period.

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: upthemaidens on October 07, 2016, 03:52:36 PM
With a good mix of experience and youth, the Islanders are setting up for a big 2017. 

Laird, Hurley, Suckling, Spurr
Bont, TMitch, Gaff, Barlow
Leuey
Smith, Lyons, Motlop, Fasolo
Swallow, Guthrie

Tomlinson, Day, JKolo, Aliir, Hamling, Hampton, Williams
Gibson, Rischitelli, Howlett, Michie, Ahern
Stanley, Witts
Duggan, Ah Chee, McGovern, Taberner, De Boer, Lamb, Himmelberg

...The Reserves are looking very solid, keeping the pressure on the Seniors to perform if they want to hold their spot in the XV.  :)

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 07, 2016, 06:07:05 PM
Wouldn't want Lyons and Duggan to be mid only then cop an injury to one of your forwards.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: upthemaidens on October 07, 2016, 06:33:03 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 07, 2016, 06:07:05 PM
Wouldn't want Lyons and Duggan to be mid only then cop an injury to one of your forwards.
With Fwd dpp in guys like   Howlett, Stanley, Witts, Tomlinson, Day etc.  I think we should be able to cope with any issues that might arise.  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on October 07, 2016, 06:47:29 PM
Looking for mid whom can score.

Doesn't have to be huge.

Doesn't have to be overly young.

Josh Smith, Daniel Talia, Pick 14, Darcy Byrne-Jones, all available...
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Nige on October 07, 2016, 07:57:31 PM
Pretty sure Cairo has the best depth.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: ossie85 on October 07, 2016, 08:57:33 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 07, 2016, 07:57:31 PM
Pretty sure Cairo has the best depth.  :P

Depth of despair maybe
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Nige on October 07, 2016, 09:37:02 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on October 07, 2016, 08:57:33 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 07, 2016, 07:57:31 PM
Pretty sure Cairo has the best depth.  :P

Depth of despair maybe
:(
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: MajorLazer on October 08, 2016, 12:15:56 AM
Pleasure doing business with you, Slurple.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on October 08, 2016, 12:18:14 AM
Quote from: MajorLazer on October 08, 2016, 12:15:56 AM
Pleasure doing business with you, Slurple.

Careful, Josh Smith is no ordinary Joe Blow.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: MajorLazer on October 08, 2016, 12:20:04 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 08, 2016, 12:18:14 AM
Quote from: MajorLazer on October 08, 2016, 12:15:56 AM
Pleasure doing business with you, Slurple.

Careful, Josh Smith is no ordinary Joe Blow.
He's just another Smith to me. We needed to make sure we had 2.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on October 08, 2016, 12:20:57 AM
Quote from: MajorLazer on October 08, 2016, 12:20:04 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 08, 2016, 12:18:14 AM
Quote from: MajorLazer on October 08, 2016, 12:15:56 AM
Pleasure doing business with you, Slurple.

Careful, Josh Smith is no ordinary Joe Blow.
He's just another Smith to me. We needed to make sure we had 2.

If only you kept Brodie Smith :( then you could name your defence as:

D: McLovin, Smith, Smith, Smith
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: MajorLazer on October 08, 2016, 12:22:52 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 08, 2016, 12:20:57 AM
Quote from: MajorLazer on October 08, 2016, 12:20:04 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 08, 2016, 12:18:14 AM
Quote from: MajorLazer on October 08, 2016, 12:15:56 AM
Pleasure doing business with you, Slurple.

Careful, Josh Smith is no ordinary Joe Blow.
He's just another Smith to me. We needed to make sure we had 2.

If only you kept Brodie Smith :( then you could name your defence as:

D: McLovin, Smith, Smith, Smith
Is there another Smith going round? Could get a family reunion going.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on October 08, 2016, 12:24:44 AM
Quote from: MajorLazer on October 08, 2016, 12:22:52 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 08, 2016, 12:20:57 AM
Quote from: MajorLazer on October 08, 2016, 12:20:04 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 08, 2016, 12:18:14 AM
Quote from: MajorLazer on October 08, 2016, 12:15:56 AM
Pleasure doing business with you, Slurple.

Careful, Josh Smith is no ordinary Joe Blow.
He's just another Smith to me. We needed to make sure we had 2.

If only you kept Brodie Smith :( then you could name your defence as:

D: McLovin, Smith, Smith, Smith
Is there another Smith going round? Could get a family reunion going.

I'm glad you asked!

Full Name2016 POS12016 POS2
Devon SmithFWD
Isaac SmithMID
Archie SmithRUC
Zac SmithRUC
Brodie SmithDEFMID
Josh SmithMID
Sam NaismithRUCFWD
Clay SmithMIDFWD
Nick SmithDEF
Roarke SmithDEF
George Horlin-SmithMID
Tanner SmithDEF
Joel SmithFWD
Clem SmithDEFFWD

Shame there is only 14  :-\
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: MajorLazer on October 08, 2016, 12:28:02 AM
So close to a full team but no cigar.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on October 08, 2016, 12:29:02 AM
Quote from: MajorLazer on October 08, 2016, 12:28:02 AM
So close to a full team but no cigar.

Surely a couple more get drafted?

This needs to happen.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: MajorLazer on October 08, 2016, 12:31:33 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 08, 2016, 12:29:02 AM
Quote from: MajorLazer on October 08, 2016, 12:28:02 AM
So close to a full team but no cigar.

Surely a couple more get drafted?

This needs to happen.
Are there any names that have more? Johnson? Williams? Can't think of any more common ones though.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 08, 2016, 12:44:47 AM
Sam Mitchell named his son Smith.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on October 08, 2016, 12:46:07 AM
Quote from: meow meow on October 08, 2016, 12:44:47 AM
Sam Mitchell named his son Smith.
So the kids going to have a first name and a second name but itll just be the wrong way around?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Adamant on October 08, 2016, 12:48:44 AM
Quote from: iZander on October 08, 2016, 12:46:07 AM
Quote from: meow meow on October 08, 2016, 12:44:47 AM
Sam Mitchell named his son Smith.
So the kids going to have a first name and a second name but itll just be the wrong way around?

Poor kid.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on October 08, 2016, 01:23:37 AM
I'm pretty sure I got back to everyone who asked about Parish, apologies if I didn't. 132 PMs in 2 days is a lot to go through :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 08, 2016, 10:11:37 AM
Alright, I pretty much haven't talked trades for weeks now because I felt like we were pretty much done, but I've just updated our team list and feel like there might be more to do

We currently only have 31 players on our senior list (And one of them is delisted Marcon!) so we'll be picking up 9-10 new players via the upcoming drafts. The 30 players we have on our senior list all play AFL football and 25-28 are best 22 so we're solid for depth, but having to get 25% of our entire senior list in the upcoming draft isn't ideal, although not a problem

So, I'm wanting to do a few small deals, most likely where we get 2 or 3 for 1, to build up our list size

I've updated our team thread so check it out, and hit me up if you have excess picks/players to trade or have any offers :)

Am interested in Picks in the 20-50 range too
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 08, 2016, 11:46:55 AM
Dom Tyson could be on the move  :o

Have not been shopping him around at all, but heaps of teams have inquired but we have now received an attractive offer for him, so for all those that have asked about him, now's the time to get your offers in because we might actually be trading him now!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: ossie85 on October 08, 2016, 11:49:47 AM
Reckon Toronto have done well getting above the cap btw
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 08, 2016, 03:48:46 PM
JACK STEELE could be on the move... From Wellington to Christchurch.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on October 08, 2016, 03:49:57 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 08, 2016, 03:48:46 PM
JACK STEELE could be on the move... From Wellington to Christchurch.
Christchurch would want to be sending something decent back to Wellington or it might get negged
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on October 08, 2016, 08:15:19 PM
Just thought I'd post here, as a couple of people have asked about it now.

With Matt Dea and James Kelly looking to continue on with the Bombers, they'll be available in the draft.

However, they will be bidded on similar to Father/Son bidding (the way it used to be), with the team that last had them BEFORE this year having first rights to them.

That means Toronto can choose to match bids on James Kelly (not Pacific), and Tokyo can choose to match bids on Matt Dea (not Cape Town).
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on October 08, 2016, 08:19:12 PM
For a split second I was like "ohhhhh yisssss"

And then ya kicked me in the nuts, Purps
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 09, 2016, 12:30:10 AM
it's interesting seeing what trades Dave is doing

and seeing if i would of done them or not
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 09, 2016, 04:24:56 AM
Jack Trengove could move for a decent enough pick. Has averaged 85 and will benefit from getting most of a season under his belt and now able to do his first preseason in yonks. Dude was a #2 pick and he's not a dud footballer, just unlucky so far. Took Scully this long to become elite despite no injuries.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Levi434 on October 09, 2016, 11:58:34 AM
Matthew Boyd could be traded for a 90+ mid of any age. Send me a PM! :)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2016, 05:36:38 PM
2015 Trade #57 = Oct 17th
2016 Trade #57 = Oct 10th

We did start a week earlier this year but after a slow start we've caught up pretty quickly to last year
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 10, 2016, 07:05:28 PM
1   111.5   Zachary Merrett - midfielder
2   109   Dayne Zorko - midfielder
3   108.1   Dustin Martin - midfielder
5   101   Nick Riewoldt - old as shower
6   100.6   Daniel Wells - midfielder
7   98.9   Leigh Montagna - defender
8   98   Michael Barlow - midfielder who gets dropped
9   97.8   Joshua Kennedy
10   95.7   Luke Dahlhaus - midfielder
11   95.5   Aaron Hall - midfielder
12   95   Brett Deledio - injury prone mid/defender
13   94.6   Lance Franklin
14   93.2   Tom Lynch
15   92.8   Brent Harvey - retired
16   92.3   Jack Gunston
17   92   Jeremy Howe - defender
18   91.8   Jarrad Waite - old as shower
19   90.4   Toby Greene - GUN
20   90.2   Jarryd Lyons - midfielder
21   90.1   Cyril Rioli
22   88.4   Eddie Betts
23   88.1   Kurt Tippett - ruck
24   87.5   Tom Lynch
25   86   Josh Jenkins
26   85.9   Jack Riewoldt
27   85.4   Steve Johnson - old as shower
28   85.2   Justin Westhoff
28   85.2   Steven Motlop
30   85   Matthew Wright
31   84.9   Mitch Robinson - midfielder
32   84.5   Tom Hawkins
33   84.2   Tom Hickey - ruckman
34   84.1   Jack Watts
35   83.2   Scott Lycett - injured ruckman
36   82.7   Luke Breust - GUN!


Luke Breust - The 20th best forward (by average, even better if you take age into account) could be yours if you want him. Gibbs with a 106 average is the 20th best mid so I should be asking for something in that range but might settle for someone below him. Could even package Luke with someone else or a pick for the right deal.

Breust is as solid as they come.

2012    21    85.8
2013    22    82.5
2014    22    85.0
2015    21    82.7
2016    22    82.7

Still 25 years of age, this gun will be a forwardline mainstay for at least the next 5 years.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on October 10, 2016, 07:27:42 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 10, 2016, 07:05:28 PM
1   111.5   Zachary Merrett - midfielder
2   109   Dayne Zorko - midfielder
3   108.1   Dustin Martin - midfielder
5   101   Nick Riewoldt - old as shower
6   100.6   Daniel Wells - midfielder
7   98.9   Leigh Montagna - defender
8   98   Michael Barlow - midfielder who gets dropped
9   97.8   Joshua Kennedy
10   95.7   Luke Dahlhaus - midfielder
11   95.5   Aaron Hall - midfielder
12   95   Brett Deledio - injury prone mid/defender
13   94.6   Lance Franklin
14   93.2   Tom Lynch
15   92.8   Brent Harvey - retired
16   92.3   Jack Gunston
17   92   Jeremy Howe - defender
18   91.8   Jarrad Waite - old as shower
19   90.4   Toby Greene - GUN
20   90.2   Jarryd Lyons - midfielder
21   90.1   Cyril Rioli
22   88.4   Eddie Betts
23   88.1   Kurt Tippett - ruck
24   87.5   Tom Lynch
25   86   Josh Jenkins
26   85.9   Jack Riewoldt
27   85.4   Steve Johnson - old as shower
28   85.2   Justin Westhoff
28   85.2   Steven Motlop
30   85   Matthew Wright
31   84.9   Mitch Robinson - midfielder
32   84.5   Tom Hawkins
33   84.2   Tom Hickey - ruckman
34   84.1   Jack Watts
35   83.2   Scott Lycett - injured ruckman
36   82.7   Luke Breust - GUN!


Luke Breust - The 20th best forward (by average, even better if you take age into account) could be yours if you want him. Gibbs with a 106 average is the 20th best mid so I should be asking for something in that range but might settle for someone below him. Could even package Luke with someone else or a pick for the right deal.

Breust is as solid as they come.

2012    21    85.8
2013    22    82.5
2014    22    85.0
2015    21    82.7
2016    22    82.7

Still 25 years of age, this gun will be a forwardline mainstay for at least the next 5 years.

so your assuming that everyone loses DPP and nobody gains it?

the other thing is there is 17 guys scoring within 5 points of Breust, so while he may be the 20th best forward once you take out everyone and dont put anyone back in

If you account for all the guys who surprisingly keep it or get forward status then he really isnt that much better then the 40th -50th best forward.






Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 10, 2016, 07:39:48 PM
righto m8

Breust is shower, will accept a 6th round pick for him.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2016, 07:42:05 PM
JJK #1 and Tippett #1 Ruck/FWD  8)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 10, 2016, 07:43:29 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2016, 07:42:05 PM
JJK #1 and Tippett #1 Ruck/FWD  8)

Don't get too excited, he'll be the 70th best forward when others overtake him and others gain DPP.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2016, 07:45:28 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 10, 2016, 07:43:29 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2016, 07:42:05 PM
JJK #1 and Tippett #1 Ruck/FWD  8)

Don't get too excited, he'll be the 70th best forward when others overtake him and others gain DPP.

Can't see any of the premo rucks getting fwd DPP tbh. Reckon Tippett will still be number 1 in the aspect

JJK good for 90+ average so I'll take it
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2016, 08:48:03 PM
Sneaky delete there GL?  :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on October 10, 2016, 08:50:08 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2016, 08:48:03 PM
Sneaky delete there GL?  :P
There was a slight misunderstanding :P

Just working out the kinks now ;)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 10, 2016, 08:50:34 PM
I saw it.

Sack him.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on October 10, 2016, 09:02:44 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 10, 2016, 07:39:48 PM
righto m8

Breust is shower, will accept a 6th round pick for him.

you said you should be asking for someone in the 105 mid range.

not even close
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 10, 2016, 09:07:50 PM
Will trade Breust for a 110+ mid if anyone is interested.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2016, 09:11:33 PM
Hahaha!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on October 10, 2016, 09:28:47 PM
For anyone looking for some picks, happy to package up 26, 33, and 40 for a pick upgrade (either 2 of them or all 3)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on October 10, 2016, 09:39:06 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 10, 2016, 09:28:47 PM
For anyone looking for some picks, happy to package up 26, 33, and 40 for a pick upgrade (either 2 of them or all 3)
To add to this, also happy to package picks with guys like Bird, Graham, Plowman, Geary, Kent, etc etc (you get the idea) for a player upgrade to get our cap up a little bit (not an elite player ofc, just depth with higher cap $$$)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 11, 2016, 02:29:32 PM
More propping up of the Mexico City Suns on its way soon if nobody else shows genuine interest in Broooooooooost.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on October 11, 2016, 02:36:25 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 11, 2016, 02:29:32 PM
More propping up of the Mexico City Suns on its way soon if nobody else shows genuine interest in Broooooooooost.

Probably shouldn't joke about that when there is a strong enough history of you doing this already.

Breust will probably cost me Treloar but i reckon you will trade him to Mexico for like Stanton

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 11, 2016, 02:47:08 PM
Wells actually. Breust never misses, while getting half a season out of Wells would be a miracle but I'll go for it anyway.

Would take Jamie Elliott + extra though if anyone wants to offer Dom Tyson to Buenos. Tyson for Breust isn't horrible.

Could even package him with Gibbs for Neale and something inferior to Luke in a 2 for 2.

Would consider a swap with a former #1 at Gold Coast who never plays.

I'm sure there's more options.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: AaronKirk on October 11, 2016, 02:57:47 PM
Tyson isn't going anywhere BTW.

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on October 11, 2016, 03:10:26 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 11, 2016, 02:47:08 PM
Wells actually. Breust never misses, while getting half a season out of Wells would be a miracle but I'll go for it anyway.

Would take Jamie Elliott + extra though if anyone wants to offer Dom Tyson to Buenos. Tyson for Breust isn't horrible.

Could even package him with Gibbs for Neale and something inferior to Luke in a 2 for 2.

Would consider a swap with a former #1 at Gold Coast who never plays.

I'm sure there's more options.

was going to say Wells

seems about right a

old guy who at his absolute best is the 28th mid and will likely get injured and struggle to play half the season

for as you say the 20th best forward who is much younger and is extremely durable.

scary thing is i can see this deal going down.


Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 11, 2016, 03:16:21 PM
28th best mid for like the 180th best forward after new DPP and even then he's barely better than the players below him as you said. Make up your mind!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on October 11, 2016, 03:19:54 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 11, 2016, 03:16:21 PM
28th best mid for like the 180th best forward after new DPP and even then he's barely better than the players below him as you said. Make up your mind!

you first up said he was almost worth a 105 mid.

He is a good player at the 40th best fwd aint actually too bad.

Its a long extreme between a primed 105 mid and wells.

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on October 11, 2016, 03:27:29 PM
Hahahahahaha
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 11, 2016, 03:29:21 PM
You think there will be 20 new forwards with a better than 83 average? Highly unlikely. At worst he'll be the 30th best average and a great number of the 29 ahead of him are older.

Like when I gave you Gunston for Rocky, he's worth almost as much as Tom now despite the significant difference in average. Breust isn't that far behind Gunston plus I'm not asking for a Rocky.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on October 11, 2016, 03:43:44 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 11, 2016, 03:29:21 PM
You think there will be 20 new forwards with a better than 83 average? Highly unlikely. At worst he'll be the 30th best average and a great number of the 29 ahead of him are older.

Like when I gave you Gunston for Rocky, he's worth almost as much as Tom now despite the significant difference in average. Breust isn't that far behind Gunston plus I'm not asking for a Rocky.

did you purposely omit it was Gunston + Boak for Rocky?

this is when boak was a 105 player.

plus Gunston is 10 points better then Breust thats not even close.


Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 11, 2016, 04:07:54 PM
Mexico City likely to get Gibbs in the deal too. Unlike lots of other teams in this comp I'm willing to downgrade my stars for old guys for the sake of depth.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on October 11, 2016, 04:35:45 PM
Still two teams left to vote (PNL & Tokyo), but all the trades have been decided now anyway. Be sure to still vote though!

Trade 50
Cairo trade: Dougal Howard
PNL trade: Pick 51
Votes: 0
Admin comments: Dooooooogal!
Verdict: PASS

Trade 51
Berlin trade: Josh Smith
Cairo trade: Luke Dunstan
Votes: 0
Admin comments: Goodbye, my no ordinary Joe Blow :(
Verdict: PASS

Trade 52
Cape Town trade: Darcy Parish, Pick 7 + Billy Longer
PNL trade: Sam Naismith, Pick 4 + Pick 27
Votes: 9
Admin comments: *whistles*, the coaches did not like this. Although I'll forward the reasons why shortly, most believed Parish is worth Pick 4 + Pick 27 and that Naismith doesn't have the runs on the board (i.e. form with Sinclair in the team) to warrant being worth Pick 7 + Longer. I would think that dropping Picks 7 & 27, and Cape Town adding Pick 26 to this deal would appeases the masses, or PNL add someone with potential along with the deal. But also remember, neither team is forced into renegotiating if they don't want to.
Verdict: REJECT

Trade 53
Toronto trade: Pick 20
Cape Town trade: Nathan Hrovat
Votes: 0
Admin comments: Probably a higher draft pick than was needed IMO, but the Rat has potential!
Verdict: PASS

Trade 54
PNL trade: Pick 88 + Rookie Pick 31
Cairo trade: Jake Batchelor + Rhys Palmer
Votes: 1
Admin comments: All that's missing from this trade is John Butcher.
Verdict: PASS

Trade 55
Christchurch trade: Sam Gilbert + Pick 37
New York trade: Pick 29
Votes: 0
Admin comments: Yup.
Verdict: PASS

Trade 56
Dublin trade: Bailey Dale
Rio de Janeiro trade: Andrew Mackie
Votes: 1
Admin comments: Dale Bailey, or whatever he is called, keeps on-a-movin
Verdict: PASS

Trade 57
Cape Town trade: Nakia Cockatoo
New Dehli trade: Ben Griffiths + Pick 40
Votes: 0
Admin comments: All I can think about is Tyson, & cry.
Verdict: PASS
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on October 11, 2016, 04:37:27 PM
Thread updated

WXV Player Lists & Draft Order (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,108063.0.html)

Spreadsheet updated

WXV Trade Centre (http://jmp.sh/g3v7gq1)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on October 11, 2016, 04:42:53 PM
geez Parish is overrated.

give me Bowes Brodie Glugg of Grath over him every day of the week.



Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Jukes on October 11, 2016, 04:53:41 PM
Parish >>>>> every north player since Carey
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on October 11, 2016, 04:56:04 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 11, 2016, 04:53:41 PM
Parish >>>>> every north player since Carey

and this guy can vote :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: elephants on October 11, 2016, 05:04:52 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 11, 2016, 04:42:53 PM
geez Parish is overrated.

give me Bowes Brodie Glugg of Grath over him every day of the week.

Thats your opinion.

Nearly half the comp (plus more if you include co-coaches) disagree with you ;)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on October 11, 2016, 05:05:40 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 11, 2016, 05:04:52 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 11, 2016, 04:42:53 PM
geez Parish is overrated.

give me Bowes Brodie Glugg of Grath over him every day of the week.

Thats your opinion.

Nearly half the comp (plus more if you include co-coaches) disagree with you ;)

ill back myself in.

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: elephants on October 11, 2016, 05:16:56 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 11, 2016, 05:05:40 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 11, 2016, 05:04:52 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 11, 2016, 04:42:53 PM
geez Parish is overrated.

give me Bowes Brodie Glugg of Grath over him every day of the week.

Thats your opinion.

Nearly half the comp (plus more if you include co-coaches) disagree with you ;)

ill back myself in.

Haha I never woulda guessed :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 11, 2016, 07:20:29 PM
Naismith was the one being overrated, not Parish
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 11, 2016, 07:23:28 PM
And he's just gone in for a shoulder reco and will miss a chunk of preseason, probably giving up his #1 position in the process.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 11, 2016, 07:27:13 PM
Pls Levi
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on October 11, 2016, 08:08:01 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 11, 2016, 07:27:13 PM
Pls Levi
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Levi434 on October 11, 2016, 08:30:52 PM
Sorry lads been busy, I'll return messages now.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 11, 2016, 08:37:50 PM
I was referring to that insulting offer you sent me :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on October 12, 2016, 10:47:48 PM
Parish could be gone tonight :-X
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on October 12, 2016, 11:41:36 PM
DON'T BE UPSET CHUMPY
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 12, 2016, 11:57:45 PM
 :o
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: MajorLazer on October 12, 2016, 11:58:12 PM
Parish is overated
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on October 12, 2016, 11:58:49 PM
Quote from: MajorLazer on October 12, 2016, 11:58:12 PM
Parish is overated
Not as much as the draft each year :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on October 13, 2016, 12:19:36 AM
Are you not entertaineddddd
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on October 13, 2016, 12:40:56 AM
Just a heads up, got two assignments due Friday and cricket on Saturday, so I don't plan on doing any trading over the next 3 days. Feel free to still send in offers though.

Off the top of my head, have started (but not made much progress) trade talks with at least another 6 coaches (you know who you are), so haven't forgotten about you guys and will come up with some offers on Sunday hopefully <3

But yeah, just gotta focus on other stuff next few days :)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Toga on October 13, 2016, 01:07:36 AM
Keen for some picks in the 20-30's range if anyone is selling.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on October 13, 2016, 02:08:55 AM
Quote from: GoLions on October 13, 2016, 12:19:36 AM
Are you not entertaineddddd
lol love it
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 13, 2016, 02:49:12 AM
Quote from: Toga on October 13, 2016, 01:07:36 AM
Keen for some picks in the 20-30's range if anyone is selling.

what are you willing to give
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Jukes on October 13, 2016, 03:39:41 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 13, 2016, 02:49:12 AM
Quote from: Toga on October 13, 2016, 01:07:36 AM
Keen for some picks in the 20-30's range if anyone is selling.

what are you willing to give

North Korean state secrets
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 13, 2016, 01:55:53 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 13, 2016, 01:07:36 AM
Keen for some picks in the 20-30's range if anyone is selling.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on October 13, 2016, 02:04:11 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 13, 2016, 01:55:53 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 13, 2016, 01:07:36 AM
Keen for some picks in the 20-30's range if anyone is selling.
Got picks 24 and 25 that could potentially go, dont see it being for a player though, more on in a package deal

Hit Vin and i up :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 13, 2016, 02:26:01 PM
Would consider 29 + Jobe Watson for a better pick(s). Always the possibility of other options too

Could be the final piece to the premiership puzzle.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on October 13, 2016, 03:02:36 PM
@ Holz

#paperclipping


28/11/11
Nat Draft Pick #42 - Dylan Buckley

05/11/14
NDT give: Dylan Buckley
New York give: Koby Stevens

28/10/15
New Delhi Trade: Koby Stevens + Trengove
Christchurch Trade: Tom Scully + N12

29/08/16
NDT Trade: Scully + N18
New York Trade: Houli + Balic + Fiorini
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on October 13, 2016, 03:07:42 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 13, 2016, 03:02:36 PM
@ Holz

#paperclipping


28/11/11
Nat Draft Pick #42 - Dylan Buckley

05/11/14
NDT give: Dylan Buckley
New York give: Koby Stevens

28/10/15
New Delhi Trade: Koby Stevens + Trengove
Christchurch Trade: Tom Scully + N12

29/08/16
NDT Trade: Scully + N18
New York Trade: Houli + Balic + Fiorini
Gresh went at 12 and should be a gun, was great this year. You still come out *just* on top though ;)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on October 13, 2016, 03:15:22 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 13, 2016, 03:07:42 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 13, 2016, 03:02:36 PM
@ Holz

#paperclipping


28/11/11
Nat Draft Pick #42 - Dylan Buckley

05/11/14
NDT give: Dylan Buckley
New York give: Koby Stevens

28/10/15
New Delhi Trade: Koby Stevens + Trengove
Christchurch Trade: Tom Scully + N12

29/08/16
NDT Trade: Scully + N18
New York Trade: Houli + Balic + Fiorini
Gresh went at 12 and should be a gun, was great this year. You still come out *just* on top though ;)
then add HH for Fiorini, loss.  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 13, 2016, 03:22:15 PM
N28 and n30 are for sale
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 13, 2016, 03:55:28 PM
Hrovat + Elliott for 2
2, 26, 46 for Watson + 12
12 for Trengove

If I trade Watson for 20ish (What Hrovat was traded for) I'll basically have given Elliott, 26 and 46 for Trengove.

Compo.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on October 13, 2016, 03:59:26 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 13, 2016, 03:55:28 PM
Hrovat + Elliott for 2
2, 26, 46 for Watson + 12
12 for Trengove

If I trade Watson for 20ish (What Hrovat was traded for) I'll basically have given Elliott, 26 and 46 for Trengove.

Compo.

kick him out the league for poor trading I say.

there is your compensation for the Saints. Rebuild around a new coach.



Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on October 13, 2016, 04:04:02 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 13, 2016, 03:55:28 PM
Hrovat + Elliott for 2
2, 26, 46 for Watson + 12
12 for Trengove

If I trade Watson for 20ish (What Hrovat was traded for) I'll basically have given Elliott, 26 and 46 for Trengove.

Compo.
20 could be traded ;)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on October 13, 2016, 09:05:47 PM
In the interest of my salary cap, I'm auctioning Nick Suban + Jordan Murdoch for just one draft pick!

Suban linked to victorian clubs, could be a nice little surprise for your team. Whilst Jordan Murdoch showed his ability particularly last year with a score of 152!

Could be a tempting option for you teams near the minimum cap  :o

Bidding starts at a 5th round draft pick, and they WILL be traded to the highest bidder in this time in two days!

Go!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Hellopplz on October 13, 2016, 09:12:45 PM
I'll bid Kane Lucas, worth a 5th round pick :P.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on October 13, 2016, 09:13:25 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on October 13, 2016, 09:12:45 PM
I'll bid Kane Lucas, worth a 5th round pick :P.

Just as I was about to post  ;)

BANG! A high-end fourth rounder already offered.

Phwoah, I'll own Pick 14 at this rate!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on October 13, 2016, 09:16:35 PM
2nd assignment got extended to Monday evening 8)

So got a bit more time for trade talks now ;D

Not sure if I'll be using any picks after N21, which means I have like 35, 58, and a few others which I'm happy to package with one of 20, 21 (or 7 if Moscow or London are interested) for a small pick upgrade.

EDIT: http://ffchat.wixsite.com/chat ;)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on October 13, 2016, 09:17:28 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 13, 2016, 09:16:35 PM
2nd assignment got extended to Monday evening 8)

So got a bit more time for trade talks now ;D

Not sure if I'll be using any picks after N21, which means I have like 35, 58, and a few others which I'm happy to package with one of 20, 21 (or 7 if Moscow or London are interested) for a small pick upgrade.

Why not bid for Suban & Murdoch with Pick 58?

You'd hit the lead with that  :o :o
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on October 13, 2016, 09:18:22 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 13, 2016, 09:17:28 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 13, 2016, 09:16:35 PM
2nd assignment got extended to Monday evening 8)

So got a bit more time for trade talks now ;D

Not sure if I'll be using any picks after N21, which means I have like 35, 58, and a few others which I'm happy to package with one of 20, 21 (or 7 if Moscow or London are interested) for a small pick upgrade.

Why not bid for Suban & Murdoch with Pick 58?

You'd hit the lead with that  :o :o
I'll leave them for London to help with their mid depth and cap issues
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: My Chumps on October 13, 2016, 09:45:05 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 12, 2016, 11:40:43 PM
Chumps is gonna cry himself to sleep tonight...

Cobras give: Darcy Parish
Wolves give: N3
Just whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy :(

sorry I know I gave it up and should just shut up I just can't help being emotionally invested
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on October 13, 2016, 09:46:14 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 13, 2016, 09:45:05 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 12, 2016, 11:40:43 PM
Chumps is gonna cry himself to sleep tonight...

Cobras give: Darcy Parish
Wolves give: N3
Just whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy :(

sorry I know I gave it up and should just shut up I just can't help being emotionally invested
Isn't he just doing what you did two years ago, but with different players?  :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on October 13, 2016, 09:48:46 PM
Marc Murphy could be on the move for a good forward

If interested hit me or Ele up

And just a reminder of how well he can score. Before this year hes gone 103,  106,  92,  112,  118,  112,  113.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 13, 2016, 09:49:08 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 13, 2016, 09:45:05 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 12, 2016, 11:40:43 PM
Chumps is gonna cry himself to sleep tonight...

Cobras give: Darcy Parish
Wolves give: N3
Just whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy :(

sorry I know I gave it up and should just shut up I just can't help being emotionally invested

It's okay Chumpy, we have a plan!!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: My Chumps on October 13, 2016, 10:05:37 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 13, 2016, 09:46:14 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 13, 2016, 09:45:05 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 12, 2016, 11:40:43 PM
Chumps is gonna cry himself to sleep tonight...

Cobras give: Darcy Parish
Wolves give: N3
Just whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy :(

sorry I know I gave it up and should just shut up I just can't help being emotionally invested
Isn't he just doing what you did two years ago, but with different players?  :P
please oh mighty insightful torp please draw the similarities for me

Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 13, 2016, 09:49:08 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 13, 2016, 09:45:05 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 12, 2016, 11:40:43 PM
Chumps is gonna cry himself to sleep tonight...

Cobras give: Darcy Parish
Wolves give: N3
Just whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy :(

sorry I know I gave it up and should just shut up I just can't help being emotionally invested

It's okay Chumpy, we have a plan!!
Haha, best of luck fellas :)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on October 13, 2016, 10:55:08 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 13, 2016, 10:05:37 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 13, 2016, 09:46:14 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 13, 2016, 09:45:05 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 12, 2016, 11:40:43 PM
Chumps is gonna cry himself to sleep tonight...

Cobras give: Darcy Parish
Wolves give: N3
Just whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy :(

sorry I know I gave it up and should just shut up I just can't help being emotionally invested
Isn't he just doing what you did two years ago, but with different players?  :P
please oh mighty insightful torp please draw the similarities for me



Basically a big Youth rebuild? I seem to recall you grabbing several top picks via trades.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on October 14, 2016, 12:46:11 PM
So meow, in light of recent events, 58 and 80 for Smitch about right?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on October 14, 2016, 12:52:11 PM
Only plan on using 2 rookie picks, so if anyone is looking for another semi-decent pick, happy to package R20 (pending trade approval) and R24 to move up the rookie draft order a bit
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: elephants on October 14, 2016, 12:54:56 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 14, 2016, 12:46:11 PM
So meow, in light of recent events, 58 and 80 for Smitch about right?

Negged

Pick 80 should be enough, don't need to get silly!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on October 14, 2016, 12:56:16 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 14, 2016, 12:54:56 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 14, 2016, 12:46:11 PM
So meow, in light of recent events, 58 and 80 for Smitch about right?

Negged

Pick 80 should be enough, don't need to get silly!
True. Then I can pass on 58 to use my first PSD pick! Cheers ele, the voice of reason as usual 8)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on October 14, 2016, 03:15:50 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 13, 2016, 09:48:46 PM
Marc Murphy could be on the move for a good forward

If interested hit me or Ele up

And just a reminder of how well he can score. Before this year hes gone 103,  106,  92,  112,  118,  112,  113.
On top of this


Jeremy Howe could be on the table due to so many backmen coming in this trade period.

92ave defender. Played the first four games of the year up forward, then moved into defence to average 100 for the rest of the year, but we'll sell around that 90-95 mark

Again looking for premo fwds, or
can pair with a NDT mid  for  a better mid + lesser defender/fwd
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 14, 2016, 04:13:35 PM
Alex Neal-Bullen very much available. Preferably for a pick.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Vinny on October 14, 2016, 08:11:50 PM
Marcus Adams requested a trade back to WA. A 23 year old and averaged 81 in his first season.

Looking for a starting midfielder.

Pendlebury + N12 is still avalaible and in a series of discussions at the moment. If anyone else is interested, hit iZander and I up.

Willing to package up N24, N25 for a combination of solid depth too.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on October 15, 2016, 09:23:53 PM
Two coaches left to vote (Pacific & Rio), but all trades auto-pass. Be sure to still vote though!

Trade 58
Cape Town trade: Brodie Smith, Shane Savage + Pick 33
Toronto trade: Jasper Pittard, Jake Carlisle, Pick 58 + Rookie Pick 20
Votes: 0
Admin comments: Good trade this one!
Verdict: PASS

Trade 59
Cape Town trade: Nicholas Graham, Sam B Reid + Pick 40
New York trade: Samuel Collins + Pick 21
Votes: 0
Admin comments: All fine.
Verdict: PASS

Trade 60
Christchurch trade: Luke Breust + Tory Dickson
Mexico City trade: Daniel Wells + Pick 16
Votes: 1
Admin comments: *remembers when I could have got Wells ultra cheap this time last year*
Verdict: PASS

Trade 61
Toronto trade: Pick 33 + Pick 49
Rio de Janeiro trade: Shane Kersten
Votes: 0
Admin comments: I really like Toronto's trading in this batch. Love seeing the premiers giving good depth to a bottom 2 side.
Verdict: PASS

Trade 62
Mexico City trade: Tory Dickson
Seoul trade: Cameron Sutcliffe
Votes: 0
Admin comments: Dickson unwanted immediately by new owner  :(
Verdict: PASS

Trade 63
Mexico City trade: Shaun Hampson, Ivan Maric, Tom Papley, Cameron Sutcliffe, Jesse Palmer + Pick 35
Cape Town trade: Billy Longer, Trent McKenzie, Jarryn Geary, George Horlin-Smith, Lewis Pierce, Pick 26 + Pick 62
Votes: 0
Admin comments: Likewise Sutcliffe :P I do wonder, the teams with ruckman from various clubs must be very few!
Verdict: PASS

Trade 64
Cape Town trade: Darcy Parish
Toronto trade: Pick 3
Votes: 0
Admin comments: Noice.
Verdict: PASS

Trade 65
Cape Town trade: Lukas Webb + Pick 21
PNL trade: Pick 17
Votes: 0
Admin comments: If Webb turns out to do anything like he did to my Casey boys in the VFL Grand Final, Cape Town may regret this trade.
Verdict: PASS
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on October 15, 2016, 09:34:16 PM
Thread updated

WXV Player Lists & Draft Order (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,108063.0.html)

Spreadsheet updated

WXV Trade Centre (http://jmp.sh/g3v7gq1)

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Levi434 on October 17, 2016, 01:36:52 PM
If anyone is looking to move back slightly in the draft. I'm looking to trade 33 + 49 for a minimally better pick.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on October 17, 2016, 08:22:15 PM
Offering any two of the below for a pick I like. A PSD Pick in the top 10 should do it, or a late 3rd/early 4th rounder. But not BOTH JKH and Minchington, because they have the lowest caps :P

Colin Garland
Darren Minchington
Kyle Cheney
Jay Kennedy-Harris
Dylan Grimes
Drew Petrie (still linked to West Coast if you wanna take the gamble)
Sam Fisher (still might get another contract at the Saints)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on October 18, 2016, 12:24:19 PM
So... Fyfe for Lewis New York?

Can throw in Steven.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Jay on October 18, 2016, 01:24:44 PM
Looking to do some 2-for-1 deals involving some of our depth to move up in the draft slightly. Hamling, De Boer, Lamb. PM if interested :)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 18, 2016, 01:56:05 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 18, 2016, 12:24:19 PM
So... Fyfe for Lewis New York?

Can throw in Steven.

Haha,

Glad to see him get a 3 year deal so now his age isn't as much a problem as some had thought

3 guaranteed years - can trade if there is interest

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Jroo on October 18, 2016, 04:19:48 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 18, 2016, 01:56:05 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 18, 2016, 12:24:19 PM
So... Fyfe for Lewis New York?

Can throw in Steven.

Haha,

Glad to see him get a 3 year deal so now his age isn't as much a problem as some had thought

3 guaranteed years - can trade if there is interest
Gee, that Lewis, Grigg and SD Thompson deal really worked out for you guys
Probably cost me the premiership considering the guys I traded for them in Bennell, Duffield and Whiley didn't play a game  :'(
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 18, 2016, 05:05:47 PM
And everyone thought we were losing that deal :P

Not the first time people have thought we we're losing a big trade only to be proved wrong ;)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 18, 2016, 05:06:44 PM
Oh, you can have Lewis and Grigg back if you like JROO

For Rocky  :-X
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on October 18, 2016, 06:16:50 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 18, 2016, 05:05:47 PM
And everyone thought we were losing that deal :P

Not the first time people have thought we we're losing a big trade only to be proved wrong ;)

big call for a comp that runs continuously, when one guy is 23 years old and has 4 straight years of averaging 95 (and is a forward)

especially given you got a round 1 finals elimination, so neither guy really helped you this year, you could say it infact hurt you as it meant you got a lower pick.

Then you wouldn't have had to lose Stephen Hill to move up the order.

Its too early to make any type of call on the trade at this point.





Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 18, 2016, 06:20:46 PM
I agree it's too early to make that call, but considering Duff retired, Whiley most likely won't turn into anything and Harley has his issues I'm more than content with the trade

We actually won the first week of finals and made it to the second week, so we did improve

I cannot see at all how the Hill trade has anything to do with this lol, and we used that higher pick to land Stringer so we're pretty happy with how things have panned out thanks :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on October 18, 2016, 06:31:57 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 18, 2016, 06:20:46 PM
I agree it's too early to make that call, but considering Duff retired, Whiley most likely won't turn into anything and Harley has his issues I'm more than content with the trade

We actually won the first week of finals and made it to the second week, so we did improve

I cannot see at all how the Hill trade has anything to do with this lol, and we used that higher pick to land Stringer so we're pretty happy with how things have panned out thanks :P

you used 14 hill to get henderson 8.

so im saying if you didnt do the trade you probably would have got pick 8ish so doing the trade cost you hill to get hendo.

and Duffy was a good sell, pity he was part of the treloar deal though despite how good JJK is.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on October 18, 2016, 06:59:36 PM
Nice reference to two of my trades there Holz :P

Is this payback for me giving you Yarran +Lewis Jetta for Walters + Stevie J? :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 18, 2016, 07:04:58 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 18, 2016, 06:16:50 PM

Its too early to make any type of call on the trade at this point.

Wasn't too early for you to whine about it when it happened.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 18, 2016, 07:34:55 PM
Word on the street is that Tim English will still be available at pick 8 in the draft. I don't need another ruckman so I am open to doing some pick swapping if anyone wants to get him at his cheapest.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on October 18, 2016, 07:49:53 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 18, 2016, 07:34:55 PM
Word on the street is that Tim English will still be available at pick 8 in the draft. I don't need another ruckman so I am open to doing some pick swapping if anyone wants to get him at his cheapest.
Huh?  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 18, 2016, 08:02:39 PM
Don't know anything about him as haven't done my rookie research yet but with a name like Tim English I just can't ever see him being elite lol

Doesn't sound like a gun rucks name
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 18, 2016, 08:10:46 PM
Reminds me of Josh Fraser   ;)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 18, 2016, 08:24:01 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 18, 2016, 08:10:46 PM
Reminds me of Josh Fraser   ;)

Haha, I'm getting more of a Craig Moller feeling!

At least he's playing NBL now I guess
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on October 18, 2016, 09:45:56 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 18, 2016, 06:59:36 PM
Nice reference to two of my trades there Holz :P

Is this payback for me giving you Yarran +Lewis Jetta for Walters + Stevie J? :P

Its a compliment if people say your winning deals.

I still rate Yaz,

Sj hurts though.

Its ok you gave me Treloar. Treloar > fyfe
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: AaronKirk on October 18, 2016, 10:27:51 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 18, 2016, 09:45:56 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 18, 2016, 06:59:36 PM
Nice reference to two of my trades there Holz :P

Is this payback for me giving you Yarran +Lewis Jetta for Walters + Stevie J? :P

Its a compliment if people say your winning deals.

I still rate Yaz,

Sj hurts though.

Its ok you gave me Treloar. Treloar > fyfe

It is very likely IMO that he will never play another game for given his mental state but I hope I am wrong because he can be a very good pick up.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 19, 2016, 01:43:55 AM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 18, 2016, 07:49:53 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 18, 2016, 07:34:55 PM
Word on the street is that Tim English will still be available at pick 8 in the draft. I don't need another ruckman so I am open to doing some pick swapping if anyone wants to get him at his cheapest.
Huh?  ;)

Moscow won't take English over Benny. It's going like this...

1: Clugg
2: Brodie
3: McGrath
4: Bowes
5: Ainsworth
6: SPS
7: Taranto
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Adamant on October 19, 2016, 02:22:00 AM
McGrath better not go at 3. :-X
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Boomz on October 19, 2016, 02:41:08 AM
Looking to get rid of these guys for draft picks if anyone is keen - Shaun Edwards, Clem Smith, Courtenay Dempsey, Liam Jones, Logan Austin, Steven Morris, Kristian Jaksch

Sorry for not getting back to a lot of people, have been busy & planning to keep JJ & Dahl for now.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 19, 2016, 03:20:38 AM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 18, 2016, 08:10:46 PM
Reminds me of Josh Fraser   ;)

A 200+ game player who averaged 75DT from 21 games in his very first season? Wouldn't be the worst result!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: elephants on October 19, 2016, 04:52:13 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 18, 2016, 08:02:39 PM
Don't know anything about him as haven't done my rookie research yet but with a name like Tim English I just can't ever see him being elite lol

Doesn't sound like a gun rucks name

Meh, cant buy that anymore. People used to say the same about some lanky prick with a big nose starting with Bont and ending in Empelli
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on October 19, 2016, 10:11:50 AM
Quote from: elephants on October 19, 2016, 04:52:13 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 18, 2016, 08:02:39 PM
Don't know anything about him as haven't done my rookie research yet but with a name like Tim English I just can't ever see him being elite lol

Doesn't sound like a gun rucks name

Meh, cant buy that anymore. People used to say the same about some lanky prick with a big nose starting with Bont and ending in Empelli

Bontempelli is an awesome name i liked him in the draft because of the name. I didnt do much research that year.



Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 19, 2016, 10:18:33 AM
Shai is a ridiculous name but I'm going to draft him anyway.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2016, 10:55:43 AM
Jock Cornell and Wylie Buzzer are great names - how's that working out for them :P

Nah I was just mucking around, but if I had a pick inside the 10 I wouldn't be grabbing English
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2016, 10:57:26 AM
Quote from: Adamant on October 19, 2016, 02:22:00 AM
McGrath better not go at 3. :-X

Would be very surprised if he did

Surely Cairo go the Huge Luggage/McGrath combo
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on October 19, 2016, 11:03:54 AM
Fyfe + Steven FOR Hibberd!

Oh wait...

:D
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: MajorLazer on October 19, 2016, 11:19:59 AM
Don't tell me how to draft
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Nige on October 19, 2016, 11:23:29 AM
Quote from: MajorLazer on October 19, 2016, 11:19:59 AM
Don't tell me how to draft
Can confirm, doesn't listen.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on October 19, 2016, 11:30:07 AM
Matt Guelfi a smokey to go top 10 maybe in worlds.

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: elephants on October 19, 2016, 01:18:37 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2016, 10:55:43 AM
Jock Cornell and Wylie Buzzer are great names - how's that working out for them :P

Nah I was just mucking around, but if I had a pick inside the 10 I wouldn't be grabbing English

Haha wish you had N1-N9 and I had N10 :p
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2016, 01:22:21 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 19, 2016, 01:18:37 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2016, 10:55:43 AM
Jock Cornell and Wylie Buzzer are great names - how's that working out for them :P

Nah I was just mucking around, but if I had a pick inside the 10 I wouldn't be grabbing English

Haha wish you had N1-N9 and I had N10 :p

What % of rucks actually turn out to become good SC scorers?

Not a lot, so don't expect too much from English

Might go alright, but this is an SC game  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 19, 2016, 01:31:09 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2016, 01:22:21 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 19, 2016, 01:18:37 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2016, 10:55:43 AM
Jock Cornell and Wylie Buzzer are great names - how's that working out for them :P

Nah I was just mucking around, but if I had a pick inside the 10 I wouldn't be grabbing English

Haha wish you had N1-N9 and I had N10 :p

What % of rucks actually turn out to become good SC scorers?

Not a lot, so don't expect too much from English

Might go alright, but this is an SC game  ;)

English is defs worth it. Anywhere from N7-N15. Depending on the teams needs.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on October 19, 2016, 01:37:40 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2016, 01:22:21 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 19, 2016, 01:18:37 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2016, 10:55:43 AM
Jock Cornell and Wylie Buzzer are great names - how's that working out for them :P

Nah I was just mucking around, but if I had a pick inside the 10 I wouldn't be grabbing English

Haha wish you had N1-N9 and I had N10 :p

What % of rucks actually turn out to become good SC scorers?

Not a lot, so don't expect too much from English

Might go alright, but this is an SC game  ;)
Better than OOP ;)

A playing ruck could have won you your semi against the Jags! if they scored about 300
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Jroo on October 19, 2016, 01:38:20 PM
Rocky for Prestia?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on October 19, 2016, 01:39:53 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 19, 2016, 01:38:20 PM
Rocky for Prestia?
Post it up.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2016, 01:40:33 PM
Can do Grigg + Conca? :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on October 19, 2016, 01:41:06 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2016, 01:22:21 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 19, 2016, 01:18:37 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2016, 10:55:43 AM
Jock Cornell and Wylie Buzzer are great names - how's that working out for them :P

Nah I was just mucking around, but if I had a pick inside the 10 I wouldn't be grabbing English

Haha wish you had N1-N9 and I had N10 :p

What % of rucks actually turn out to become good SC scorers?

Not a lot, so don't expect too much from English

Might go alright, but this is an SC game  ;)

if your talking first round Rucks then in the last 10 years

Brodie Grundy
Billy Longer
Daniel Gorringe
Nic Nat
Matt Kreuzer
Matthew Lobbe
Matthew Leuenberger

Grundy NN guns and some of the most valuable players in the comp.

Kreuzer is a gun but cant stay healthy, still worth a top 10 pick if you could get a guy who could repeat his career.

Burger Lobbe have had good seasons but have dropped away, wouldnt call it a bust if you took them 5-10.

Longer is decent depth but yeah not a great pick

Gorringe is a spud.

so actually not too bad.

If i had a top 10 pick then he would be gone.

so of the tiny sample size 28.5% - 42.8% of first round rucks turn out to be guns with 71% having at least one premo year.

I would give a top 10 pick to get just 2 years out of lobbe with his 85 in 2013 and 100 in 2014.




Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: elephants on October 19, 2016, 01:55:12 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2016, 01:22:21 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 19, 2016, 01:18:37 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2016, 10:55:43 AM
Jock Cornell and Wylie Buzzer are great names - how's that working out for them :P

Nah I was just mucking around, but if I had a pick inside the 10 I wouldn't be grabbing English

Haha wish you had N1-N9 and I had N10 :p

What % of rucks actually turn out to become good SC scorers?

Not a lot, so don't expect too much from English

Might go alright, but this is an SC game  ;)

Well probably about half of first choice rucks are good SC scorers... And as every team needs one or else you're playing a crab or an OOP that only adds value.

English is widely tipped to be Freo's pick 7 in the AFL, whose current ruck stocks go something like Old Bloke, Spud, Spud so you'd do the math and suss English would probably be future #1 ;)

Not sure how you can go from not knowing who English is to then not rating him as a top 10 talent :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on October 19, 2016, 01:57:43 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 19, 2016, 01:55:12 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2016, 01:22:21 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 19, 2016, 01:18:37 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2016, 10:55:43 AM
Jock Cornell and Wylie Buzzer are great names - how's that working out for them :P

Nah I was just mucking around, but if I had a pick inside the 10 I wouldn't be grabbing English

Haha wish you had N1-N9 and I had N10 :p

What % of rucks actually turn out to become good SC scorers?

Not a lot, so don't expect too much from English

Might go alright, but this is an SC game  ;)

Well probably about half of first choice rucks are good SC scorers... And as every team needs one or else you're playing a crab or an OOP that only adds value.

English is widely tipped to be Freo's pick 7 in the AFL, whose current ruck stocks go something like Old Bloke, Spud, Spud so you'd do the math and suss English would probably be future #1 ;)

Not sure how you can go from not knowing who English is to then not rating him as a top 10 talent :P

hes also a midfielder who grew tall and is now learning to ruck. So he might not be the best ruck but he should find the ball. Kinda reminds me of Stef Martin and he is a decent SCer
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: elephants on October 19, 2016, 01:58:45 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 19, 2016, 01:57:43 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 19, 2016, 01:55:12 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2016, 01:22:21 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 19, 2016, 01:18:37 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2016, 10:55:43 AM
Jock Cornell and Wylie Buzzer are great names - how's that working out for them :P

Nah I was just mucking around, but if I had a pick inside the 10 I wouldn't be grabbing English

Haha wish you had N1-N9 and I had N10 :p

What % of rucks actually turn out to become good SC scorers?

Not a lot, so don't expect too much from English

Might go alright, but this is an SC game  ;)

Well probably about half of first choice rucks are good SC scorers... And as every team needs one or else you're playing a crab or an OOP that only adds value.

English is widely tipped to be Freo's pick 7 in the AFL, whose current ruck stocks go something like Old Bloke, Spud, Spud so you'd do the math and suss English would probably be future #1 ;)

Not sure how you can go from not knowing who English is to then not rating him as a top 10 talent :P

hes also a midfielder who grew tall and is now learning to ruck. So he might not be the best ruck but he should find the ball. Kinda reminds me of Stef Martin and he is a decent SCer

After SC changed the rules, it makes tap ruckman less dominant imo so thats definitely a plus.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on October 19, 2016, 02:31:52 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 19, 2016, 01:55:12 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2016, 01:22:21 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 19, 2016, 01:18:37 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2016, 10:55:43 AM
Jock Cornell and Wylie Buzzer are great names - how's that working out for them :P

Nah I was just mucking around, but if I had a pick inside the 10 I wouldn't be grabbing English

Haha wish you had N1-N9 and I had N10 :p

What % of rucks actually turn out to become good SC scorers?

Not a lot, so don't expect too much from English

Might go alright, but this is an SC game  ;)

Well probably about half of first choice rucks are good SC scorers... And as every team needs one or else you're playing a crab or an OOP that only adds value.

English is widely tipped to be Freo's pick 7 in the AFL, whose current ruck stocks go something like Old Bloke, Spud, Spud so you'd do the math and suss English would probably be future #1 ;)

Not sure how you can go from not knowing who English is to then not rating him as a top 10 talent :P
Spud? ZClarke is a gun. Well that's what you told us.  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on October 19, 2016, 02:36:55 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 19, 2016, 02:31:52 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 19, 2016, 01:55:12 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2016, 01:22:21 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 19, 2016, 01:18:37 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2016, 10:55:43 AM
Jock Cornell and Wylie Buzzer are great names - how's that working out for them :P

Nah I was just mucking around, but if I had a pick inside the 10 I wouldn't be grabbing English

Haha wish you had N1-N9 and I had N10 :p

What % of rucks actually turn out to become good SC scorers?

Not a lot, so don't expect too much from English

Might go alright, but this is an SC game  ;)

Well probably about half of first choice rucks are good SC scorers... And as every team needs one or else you're playing a crab or an OOP that only adds value.

English is widely tipped to be Freo's pick 7 in the AFL, whose current ruck stocks go something like Old Bloke, Spud, Spud so you'd do the math and suss English would probably be future #1 ;)

Not sure how you can go from not knowing who English is to then not rating him as a top 10 talent :P
Spud? ZClarke is a gun. Well that's what you told us.  ;)
I'm sure he's a gun at something, just not footy.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on October 19, 2016, 02:43:20 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 19, 2016, 02:36:55 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 19, 2016, 02:31:52 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 19, 2016, 01:55:12 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2016, 01:22:21 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 19, 2016, 01:18:37 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2016, 10:55:43 AM
Jock Cornell and Wylie Buzzer are great names - how's that working out for them :P

Nah I was just mucking around, but if I had a pick inside the 10 I wouldn't be grabbing English

Haha wish you had N1-N9 and I had N10 :p

What % of rucks actually turn out to become good SC scorers?

Not a lot, so don't expect too much from English

Might go alright, but this is an SC game  ;)

Well probably about half of first choice rucks are good SC scorers... And as every team needs one or else you're playing a crab or an OOP that only adds value.

English is widely tipped to be Freo's pick 7 in the AFL, whose current ruck stocks go something like Old Bloke, Spud, Spud so you'd do the math and suss English would probably be future #1 ;)

Not sure how you can go from not knowing who English is to then not rating him as a top 10 talent :P
Spud? ZClarke is a gun. Well that's what you told us.  ;)
I'm sure he's a gun at something, just not footy.

can grow a decent afro

(http://www-static2.spulsecdn.net/pics/00/01/47/55/1475553_2_O.jpg)

Pity you dont get SC points for that.

im happy i got Charlie Dixon and Bob Murphy out of him after his 96 average year.

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: elephants on October 19, 2016, 04:22:25 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 19, 2016, 02:31:52 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 19, 2016, 01:55:12 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2016, 01:22:21 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 19, 2016, 01:18:37 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2016, 10:55:43 AM
Jock Cornell and Wylie Buzzer are great names - how's that working out for them :P

Nah I was just mucking around, but if I had a pick inside the 10 I wouldn't be grabbing English

Haha wish you had N1-N9 and I had N10 :p

What % of rucks actually turn out to become good SC scorers?

Not a lot, so don't expect too much from English

Might go alright, but this is an SC game  ;)

Well probably about half of first choice rucks are good SC scorers... And as every team needs one or else you're playing a crab or an OOP that only adds value.

English is widely tipped to be Freo's pick 7 in the AFL, whose current ruck stocks go something like Old Bloke, Spud, Spud so you'd do the math and suss English would probably be future #1 ;)

Not sure how you can go from not knowing who English is to then not rating him as a top 10 talent :P
Spud? ZClarke is a gun. Well that's what you told us.  ;)

Spud-Gun

(http://www.agathatoys.co.uk/shopimages/products/normal/spud-gun.jpg)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 19, 2016, 09:00:55 PM
Jack Trengove for a pick in the 30's anyone?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 19, 2016, 09:19:01 PM
Former WXV pick 19 Alex Neal-Bullen for the best pick offered.

VFL averages of 29.4 possessions (lots of contested!), 6 tackles, 112.5 DT points

Pos   DT
34   145
21   124
19   73
31   129
39   112
22   77
19   78
33   124
27   94
37   124
31   128
37   133
35   133
32   106
30   119
31   121
22   92
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Toga on October 19, 2016, 09:30:49 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 19, 2016, 02:36:55 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 19, 2016, 02:31:52 PM
Spud? ZClarke is a gun. Well that's what you told us.  ;)
I'm sure he's a gun at something, just not footy.

;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: fanTCfool on October 19, 2016, 10:33:44 PM
meow selling Melbourne midfielders, wonder why...
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on October 19, 2016, 10:34:19 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 19, 2016, 10:33:44 PM
meow selling Melbourne midfielders, wonder why...
Puzzling isn't it.  ???
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Adamant on October 20, 2016, 01:06:43 PM
Hrovat at the Roos. Cha-ching.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on October 20, 2016, 01:09:35 PM
Quote from: Adamant on October 20, 2016, 01:06:43 PM
Hrovat at the Roos. Cha-ching.
He was always going to get traded. Now watch him perform as well as Jed :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: DazBurg on October 20, 2016, 02:43:19 PM
Quote from: Adamant on October 20, 2016, 01:06:43 PM
Marley  at the Roos. Cha-ching.
;)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on October 20, 2016, 02:46:02 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on October 20, 2016, 02:43:19 PM
Quote from: Adamant on October 20, 2016, 01:06:43 PM
Marley  at the Roos. Cha-ching.
;)

I hope he never plays a game in a north jumper.

dont really think we need a guy who racks up the ball and turns it over.

he better not push out Mcdonald, Atley or Hibberd.

I want to see vickers willis get a shot and not just because i have him
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 03:21:01 PM
Steele at St Kilda :D :D
Vardy at West Coast :D
Stewart at Essendon :D
WHE at Collingwood :D :D
Wells at Collingwood
Mitchell at West Coast

Gibbs still at Carlton :)
Hartlett still at Port ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on October 20, 2016, 03:23:16 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 03:21:01 PM
Steele at St Kilda :D :D
Vardy at West Coast :D
Stewart at Essendon :D
WHE at Collingwood :D :D
Wells at Collingwood
Mitchell at West Coast

Softie still at Carlton :)
Hartlett still at Port ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Saints still irrelevant :D :D :D
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on October 20, 2016, 03:23:24 PM
Cloke to Bullies  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D



:P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: elephants on October 20, 2016, 03:24:40 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 03:21:01 PM
Hartlett still at Port ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Just need Hartlett to not pick up a knock mid-year and get thrown back and he'll be back to 90s ;D
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 03:33:01 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 20, 2016, 03:24:40 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 03:21:01 PM
Hartlett still at Port ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Just need Hartlett to not pick up a knock mid-year and get thrown back and he'll be back to 90s ;D

GC have Lyons and 100 first round picks coming in too, so Fior will have plenty of competition for a spot.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 03:34:12 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 20, 2016, 03:23:24 PM
Cloke to Bullies  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D



:P

Hell yes. Bevo pumps up players and they play with confidence. Cloke has been a shattered man for 2 years, but he'll win the Coleman next year.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: elephants on October 20, 2016, 03:35:29 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 03:33:01 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 20, 2016, 03:24:40 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 03:21:01 PM
Hartlett still at Port ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Just need Hartlett to not pick up a knock mid-year and get thrown back and he'll be back to 90s ;D

GC have Lyons and 100 first round picks coming in too, so Fior will have plenty of competition for a spot.

He's a gun, you've got a gem there!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on October 20, 2016, 03:42:14 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 03:34:12 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 20, 2016, 03:23:24 PM
Cloke to Bullies  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D



:P

Hell yes. Bevo pumps up players and they play with confidence. Cloke has been a shattered man for 2 years, but he'll win the Coleman next year.
Heard it here first!

Come get him fellas
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 05:28:51 PM
I don't need Nathan Vardy at all. He should be the starting ruck early next year for the Iggs and from there who knows? I'm open to packaging him with a pick to move up the draft order, but am open to other deals too.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on October 20, 2016, 05:33:57 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 05:28:51 PM
I don't need Nathan Vardy at all. He should be the starting ruck early next year for the Iggs and from there who knows? I'm open to packaging him with a pick to move up the draft order, but am open to other deals too.

can you trade include an upgrade to our medical facility.

maybe like Vardy + 500k donation to the Dublin Hospital and ill take him off your hands for a 5th rounder.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 05:46:44 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 20, 2016, 05:33:57 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 05:28:51 PM
I don't need Nathan Vardy at all. He should be the starting ruck early next year for the Iggs and from there who knows? I'm open to packaging him with a pick to move up the draft order, but am open to other deals too.

can you trade include an upgrade to our medical facility.

maybe like Vardy + 500k donation to the Dublin Hospital and ill take him off your hands for a 5th rounder.

Says the guy who traded Shaz and Marc Murphy. Criminal.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on October 20, 2016, 05:56:04 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 05:46:44 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 20, 2016, 05:33:57 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 05:28:51 PM
I don't need Nathan Vardy at all. He should be the starting ruck early next year for the Iggs and from there who knows? I'm open to packaging him with a pick to move up the draft order, but am open to other deals too.

can you trade include an upgrade to our medical facility.

maybe like Vardy + 500k donation to the Dublin Hospital and ill take him off your hands for a 5th rounder.

Says the guy who traded Shaz and Marc Murphy. Criminal.

Vardy has played 21 games in 6 years!!!!!

Murphy has played 208 games since his 2nd year he has missed 3 or less games, 8 out of 10 years. His 2 injury prone years he played 26 combined games which is more then Vardy has managed his whole career.

Shaz just turned 21 and has been unlucky with 2 ACLs.

If thats not enough I just traded in Brad Crouch.

Vardy is next level



Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 06:09:21 PM
So Moscow should delist JOM?

Heard the same old shower about Ben Reid (17 games) and Sam Gilbert (22 games) before that. Vardy played plenty of VFL this year. Yes, he has had his issues, but yes he is talented and has plenty of upside. Luck with injuries does turn sometimes, you know?

If you don't want him you don't have to make an offer.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: elephants on October 20, 2016, 06:16:35 PM
Vardy will play for us injured or not, its him or its Mitch flowering Brown in the ruck lol
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Boomz on October 20, 2016, 08:00:24 PM
Quote from: Boomz on October 19, 2016, 02:41:08 AM
Looking to get rid of these guys for draft picks if anyone is keen - Shaun Edwards, Clem Smith, Courtenay Dempsey, Liam Jones, Logan Austin, Steven Morris, Kristian Jaksch

Sorry for not getting back to a lot of people, have been busy & planning to keep JJ & Dahl for now.

Jack Grimes, Liam Dawson, Jackson Merrett, Adam Kennedy, Patrick Ambrose, Aidan Corr also available for picks.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Toga on October 20, 2016, 09:47:31 PM
Caddy to Tiges ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on October 20, 2016, 11:35:02 PM
Willing to combo depth for picks in the 20s-40s, PM me if interested!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 21, 2016, 02:21:47 AM
12 for Trengove last year.
Trengove for 40 this year.

That's how it's done :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 21, 2016, 02:25:18 AM
Will Minson available for a pick that you're not even going to use.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on October 21, 2016, 10:27:16 AM
3 coaches left to vote (Mexico City, Moscow & Pacific), but all trades have been decided (in a day?!). Be sure to still vote though!

All trades auto-pass, as none of them received a vote.




Thread updated

WXV Player Lists & Draft Order (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,108063.0.html)

Spreadsheet updated

WXV Trade Centre (http://jmp.sh/g3v7gq1)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on October 22, 2016, 02:34:16 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on October 22, 2016, 01:49:57 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 22, 2016, 01:40:13 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on October 22, 2016, 01:33:00 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 22, 2016, 01:18:55 PM
Oh and for the record Rids, everyone is entitled to their opinion. How many times in WXVs have people pulled out of trades with me because they had a word with so called Mr.Important.

Hey Torp, just out of curiosity who is Mr Important?
Not just one person, but I think those in WXVs have an idea who likes to comment on other people's potential trades openly.  ;)

ok, no clue here, as not in WXV and don't read the threads there at all
Man up Torpedo10, if that's even your real name
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: MajorLazer on October 22, 2016, 03:05:56 PM
Don't worry fellas.



I'M MR IMPORTANT
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on October 22, 2016, 03:11:05 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 22, 2016, 02:34:16 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on October 22, 2016, 01:49:57 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 22, 2016, 01:40:13 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on October 22, 2016, 01:33:00 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 22, 2016, 01:18:55 PM
Oh and for the record Rids, everyone is entitled to their opinion. How many times in WXVs have people pulled out of trades with me because they had a word with so called Mr.Important.

Hey Torp, just out of curiosity who is Mr Important?
Not just one person, but I think those in WXVs have an idea who likes to comment on other people's potential trades openly.  ;)

ok, no clue here, as not in WXV and don't read the threads there at all
Man up Torpedo10, if that's even your real name
You answered your own question?  :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: fanTCfool on October 22, 2016, 03:12:38 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 22, 2016, 02:34:16 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on October 22, 2016, 01:49:57 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 22, 2016, 01:40:13 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on October 22, 2016, 01:33:00 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 22, 2016, 01:18:55 PM
Oh and for the record Rids, everyone is entitled to their opinion. How many times in WXVs have people pulled out of trades with me because they had a word with so called Mr.Important.

Hey Torp, just out of curiosity who is Mr Important?
Not just one person, but I think those in WXVs have an idea who likes to comment on other people's potential trades openly.  ;)

ok, no clue here, as not in WXV and don't read the threads there at all
Man up Torpedo10, if that's even your real name

Torpedo10 and important both have 9 characters, conspiracy...
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Koop on October 22, 2016, 03:13:28 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 22, 2016, 03:12:38 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 22, 2016, 02:34:16 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on October 22, 2016, 01:49:57 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 22, 2016, 01:40:13 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on October 22, 2016, 01:33:00 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 22, 2016, 01:18:55 PM
Oh and for the record Rids, everyone is entitled to their opinion. How many times in WXVs have people pulled out of trades with me because they had a word with so called Mr.Important.

Hey Torp, just out of curiosity who is Mr Important?
Not just one person, but I think those in WXVs have an idea who likes to comment on other people's potential trades openly.  ;)

ok, no clue here, as not in WXV and don't read the threads there at all
Man up Torpedo10, if that's even your real name

Torpedo10 and important both have 9 letters, conspiracy...

So does FanTCFool..... :o
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on October 22, 2016, 03:20:19 PM
Quote from: Koop on October 22, 2016, 03:13:28 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 22, 2016, 03:12:38 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 22, 2016, 02:34:16 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on October 22, 2016, 01:49:57 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 22, 2016, 01:40:13 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on October 22, 2016, 01:33:00 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 22, 2016, 01:18:55 PM
Oh and for the record Rids, everyone is entitled to their opinion. How many times in WXVs have people pulled out of trades with me because they had a word with so called Mr.Important.

Hey Torp, just out of curiosity who is Mr Important?
Not just one person, but I think those in WXVs have an idea who likes to comment on other people's potential trades openly.  ;)

ok, no clue here, as not in WXV and don't read the threads there at all
Man up Torpedo10, if that's even your real name

Torpedo10 and important both have 9 letters, conspiracy...

So does FanTCFool..... :o
So does KoopKicka.  :o
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on October 22, 2016, 03:47:44 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 22, 2016, 03:20:19 PM
Quote from: Koop on October 22, 2016, 03:13:28 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 22, 2016, 03:12:38 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 22, 2016, 02:34:16 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on October 22, 2016, 01:49:57 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 22, 2016, 01:40:13 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on October 22, 2016, 01:33:00 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 22, 2016, 01:18:55 PM
Oh and for the record Rids, everyone is entitled to their opinion. How many times in WXVs have people pulled out of trades with me because they had a word with so called Mr.Important.

Hey Torp, just out of curiosity who is Mr Important?
Not just one person, but I think those in WXVs have an idea who likes to comment on other people's potential trades openly.  ;)

ok, no clue here, as not in WXV and don't read the threads there at all
Man up Torpedo10, if that's even your real name

Torpedo10 and important both have 9 letters, conspiracy...

So does FanTCFool..... :o
So does KoopKicka.  :o

I don't think a coach wirh more then 8 characters has ever won.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 22, 2016, 08:13:16 PM
Updated team(s). Still willing to do deals even though I've got an even 40 and am happy to take four first round picks to the draft.

B: Bob, McVeigh, Montagna, Dempster
M: Mitchell, Gibbs, Griffen, Wells
R: Sandilands
F: Higgins, Waite, C Smith, Steele
I: Fiorini, Masten

B: Wilson, Lever, Andrews, C Ellis
M: Blakely, Wigg, Neal-Bullen, Davis
R: Roughead
F: McLean, Langford, Hoskin-Elliott, Lester
I: Boyd, Anderson

B: McKenzie, McKenna, Silvagni (R)
M:
R: Vardy
F: Stewart

Picks #8, #14, #16, #18, #39, #40

Rookie #8, #15, #18, #26 will be used.

PSD #26, Rookie #32 + #44 + #62 unused
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 22, 2016, 08:24:00 PM
Meow, I love your faith in good ol' Abe!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 24, 2016, 08:39:06 PM
Thread needs a lot more confabulating
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 24, 2016, 08:44:51 PM
Am open to trading Nathan Wilson again, since WHE will play wing/half back at the Pies and gain DPP. Lord James Stewart will take his forward line spot in my future team so that's fine, don't need a replacement forward so would take a pick/midfielder if I was to trade Wilson.

How's that RD?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 24, 2016, 09:14:51 PM
NY and Church have been doing the bulk of  confabulating as per usual

Others need to lift!

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 24, 2016, 09:23:06 PM
Good ol' delisted Luke Goetz keeping me just over the minimum $ cap. Would be 5K under if this guru wasn't on my list.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on October 24, 2016, 09:23:21 PM
2017 WXVs premiership player Stewart Crameri has attracted a fair bit of interest from other coaches, and could leave the Kate Upton Cobras if the right offer comes along.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 24, 2016, 09:32:08 PM
I think you mean 2017 AFL premiership player.

Wouldn't be wise to trade him out if he's going to be a WXV premiership player (clearly tanking - forfeit your 1st round pick next year to me as my compo)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on October 24, 2016, 09:36:48 PM
Ugh. I don't have any easily moveable currency anymore.

I'll do Pick 33 for a M/F that plays. Can add young guys like Redman or Wagner if they warrant it.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: elephants on October 24, 2016, 10:08:12 PM
Give NDT some good guys for bad guys.

Confabulate that!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: BB67th on October 24, 2016, 10:11:17 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 24, 2016, 10:08:12 PM
Give NDT some good guys for bad guys.

Confabulate that!
We come up with only the best quality trading plans at NDT.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 24, 2016, 10:26:33 PM
Any serious offers for Nathan Vardy?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on October 24, 2016, 11:57:07 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 24, 2016, 10:26:33 PM
Any serious offers for Nathan Vardy?
Hit up GL. He's a pretty serious kind of guy
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on October 25, 2016, 12:05:36 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 24, 2016, 11:57:07 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 24, 2016, 10:26:33 PM
Any serious offers for Nathan Vardy?
Hit up GL. He's a pretty serious kind of guy
I got 2 copies of Katy Perry: Part of Me for my birthday last year, so I guess I could trade one of those. Would need something added to Vardy though.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Levi434 on October 25, 2016, 12:09:09 AM
(https://tpc.googlesyndication.com/simgad/2833803840384719787)


Vardy for 2 rolls of these?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 25, 2016, 12:20:57 AM
Alright, I'm done. See you all in a month for the Draft.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: elephants on October 25, 2016, 12:23:09 AM
Hahahaha. I actually like Vardy, we just dont have any picks.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on October 25, 2016, 12:24:08 AM
Quote from: meow meow on October 25, 2016, 12:20:57 AM
Alright, I'm done. See you all in a month for the Draft.
Really done? Or pretensies done like RD?  ;D
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on October 25, 2016, 01:30:41 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 13, 2016, 09:48:46 PM
Marc Murphy could be on the move for a good forward

If interested hit me or Ele up

And just a reminder of how well he can score. Before this year hes gone 103,  106,  92,  112,  118,  112,  113.


And also looking for picks for
Nick Robbo
Brandon Jack
Simon White
Zac Webster
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: AaronKirk on October 25, 2016, 02:35:44 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 25, 2016, 12:24:08 AM
Quote from: meow meow on October 25, 2016, 12:20:57 AM
Alright, I'm done. See you all in a month for the Draft.
Really done? Or pretensies done like RD?  ;D

I did ask RD if he had anything planned a week ago and said no.

Nothing since then. We might be done  :o
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 25, 2016, 08:37:30 AM
Yeah I can't see us doing much more unless someone approaches us

Rico, we're passing Nat pick 87, so I'll give that to you for White and then insta delist him so we can stop hearing about him lol :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 25, 2016, 08:42:52 AM
Cobras and Church with 4 picks each inside the Top 20 looking really good to jag a few good prospects

If either of you would trade one of your picks in the 16-20 range let me know if we have anything that would interest you for one of those picks

Our first pick is 37, so wouldn't mind getting an earlier pick, although not fussed if we don't
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 25, 2016, 04:09:42 PM
Trade 24
Christchurch trade: Dillon Viojo-Rainbow
PNL trade: Rookie Pick 32

This smells a lot like Will Hams lol

Whiley chopped as well, so we pretty much got Lewis, Grigg and SDT for Bennell  :P

Everitt dumped too which sucks for the Dildos
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on October 25, 2016, 04:12:51 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 25, 2016, 04:09:42 PM
Trade 24
Christchurch trade: Dillon Viojo-Rainbow
PNL trade: Rookie Pick 32

This smells a lot like Will Hams lol

Whiley chopped as well, so we pretty much got Lewis, Grigg and SDT for Bennell  :P

Everitt dumped too which sucks for the Dildos

Just you wait till Bennell is 100 averaging fwd ;)

Yeah, Everitt sucks :( he actually scored alright
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Hellopplz on October 25, 2016, 05:20:03 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 25, 2016, 04:09:42 PM
Trade 24
Christchurch trade: Dillon Viojo-Rainbow
PNL trade: Rookie Pick 32

This smells a lot like Will Hams lol

Except we didn't give up Tom Cole to get him, at the moment that pick wouldn't have even been used for us so not a huge loss for the punt :P.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 25, 2016, 05:30:31 PM
I'll never be done.

I've said all trade period that I'm willing to trade guys in their prime. Stevens, Reid, Breust, Stringer, Heartless, Vandenberg, Garlett.

Wilson, Gibbs remain.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 27, 2016, 04:50:05 PM
This is a truly sad day for Church

Abe has been delisted  :'(
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 27, 2016, 05:49:24 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 27, 2016, 04:50:05 PM
This is a truly sad day for Church

Abe has been delisted  :'(

Well... flower.

Time for a full rebuild then.

Sandi
Montagna
Griff
Mitchell
Mick Vaye
Wells
Bob
Gibbs
Masten
Dempster

all available.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on October 27, 2016, 07:15:13 PM
Who is Abe?  :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 27, 2016, 08:18:54 PM
Nathan Wilson isn't going to retire or get delisted. Come at me PNL.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on October 27, 2016, 08:44:51 PM
First Enright, then McKenzie, now Malceski has pulled the pin for the Reindeers defence  :o
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 27, 2016, 08:55:07 PM
And Hodge is gone in 12 months

PNL's defense  :o

Gibson, TMac, Hurn, Henderson, Reid, Gilbert, Sinclair, Shenton, White, Marsh, Brown

Hit me up if we can assist  8)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on October 27, 2016, 08:57:34 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 27, 2016, 08:55:07 PM
And Hodge is gone in 12 months

PNL's defense  :o

Gibson, TMac, Hurn, Henderson, Reid, Gilbert, Sinclair, Shenton, White, Marsh, Brown

Hit me up if we can assist  8)
Didn't Shenton get delisted? And Gibson probably gone in 12 months as well :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 27, 2016, 09:01:37 PM
Shenton isn't delisted..... yet  :-X

Gibbo has 12 months obv, but just listed all our defenders
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on October 27, 2016, 09:03:46 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 27, 2016, 09:01:37 PM
Shenton isn't delisted..... yet  :-X

Gibbo has 12 months obv, but just listed all our defenders
Hmmm, could have sworn he was haha. Hopefully he gets another year, got him in British :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Hellopplz on October 27, 2016, 11:56:47 PM
We offer Jack Bowes, I mean Pick 4 for the worst defender offered.

DISCLAIMER: This is not a real offer, just poking fun at everybody jumping at the opportunity to try and take advantage by offering depth defenders for our first couple of picks.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 28, 2016, 03:25:58 PM
Wilbur on his way to the Hawks. Probably wouldn't have given him away for nothing.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on October 28, 2016, 03:36:58 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 28, 2016, 03:25:58 PM
Wilbur on his way to the Hawks. Probably wouldn't have given him away for nothing.

no brainer trade by Rio,

no risk, low reward move from them.

probably would have got more then free for him if people knew he was getting handed away.





Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 28, 2016, 03:47:50 PM
Well I did advertise that he was available multiple times! Needed to cut him so Abe had a spot on the list.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 28, 2016, 04:42:15 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 28, 2016, 03:47:50 PM
Well I did advertise that he was available multiple times! Needed to cut him so Abe had a spot on the list.

That backfired

Good ol' Abe!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 28, 2016, 04:46:23 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 27, 2016, 09:03:46 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 27, 2016, 09:01:37 PM
Shenton isn't delisted..... yet  :-X

Gibbo has 12 months obv, but just listed all our defenders
Hmmm, could have sworn he was haha. Hopefully he gets another year, got him in British :P

Way to go and jinx him

Just got delisted lol
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on October 28, 2016, 04:49:08 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 28, 2016, 04:46:23 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 27, 2016, 09:03:46 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 27, 2016, 09:01:37 PM
Shenton isn't delisted..... yet  :-X

Gibbo has 12 months obv, but just listed all our defenders
Hmmm, could have sworn he was haha. Hopefully he gets another year, got him in British :P

Way to go and jinx him

Just got delisted lol
Ah well hahaha
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 28, 2016, 05:32:30 PM
Cam Shenton
Adam Marcon
Jack Fitzpatrick

All have been delisted by their clubs

Will take any pick for them
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 29, 2016, 09:10:56 AM
Anyone got NAT Picks that they'll be passing/don't need?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on October 29, 2016, 10:10:00 AM
3 teams to go (Beijing, Moscow, PNL)

These trades will auto-pass:

Trade 71
Toronto trade: Tom Ruggles
Tokyo trade: Jack Grimes + Pick 70

Trade 72
Christchurch trade: Jack Trengove
New York trade: Pick 40

Trade 74
Moscow trade: Jarrod Garlett + Pick 34
PNL trade: Paul Seedsman + Pick 42

Trade 75
Dublin trade: Pick 47
Tokyo trade: Sam Durdin
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: DazBurg on October 29, 2016, 10:21:26 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 29, 2016, 10:10:00 AM
3 teams to go (Beijing, Moscow, PNL)

These trades will auto-pass:

Trade 71
Toronto trade: Tom Ruggles
Tokyo trade: Jack Grimes + Pick 70

Trade 72
Christchurch trade: Jack Trengove
New York trade: Pick 40

Trade 74
Moscow trade: Jarrod Garlett + Pick 34
PNL trade: Paul Seedsman + Pick 42

Trade 75
Dublin trade: Pick 47
Tokyo trade: Sam Durdin

i swear something screwy going on that is the 2nd pm this week i swear i didn't see

(other one i just happened to click into pm's and it was the most latest one though never saw it say 1 new)

anyways will have vote in shortly ;)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on October 29, 2016, 03:34:00 PM
Gunston reckons Roughie is a Round 1 chance  :D

That'd be an amazing achievement if he did it; but to highlight something that doesn't matter at all in the scheme of things, it'd be great for Berlin if he did   :)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 29, 2016, 04:29:25 PM
Plenty of Worlds coaches online now

Jump on chat to talk trades  8)

http://ffchat.wixsite.com/chat
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on October 29, 2016, 04:48:14 PM
1 coaches left to vote (Beijing), but all trades have been decided. Be sure to still vote though!

Trade 71
Toronto trade: Tom Ruggles
Tokyo trade: Jack Grimes + Pick 70
Votes: 0
Admin comments: Meh.
Verdict: PASS

Trade 72
Christchurch trade: Jack Trengove
New York trade: Pick 40
Votes: 0
Admin comments: God I hope Trenners establishes himself.
Verdict: PASS

Trade 73
Christchurch trade: Will Minson
Rio de Janeiro trade: Rookie Pick 18
Votes: 1
Admin comments: Will suck for the Saints if he lands at another club  :-X giving the reigning premiers the ruck that they need isn't great for comp balance.
Verdict: PASS

Trade 74
PNL trade: Jarrod Garlett + Pick 34
Moscow trade: Paul Seedsman + Pick 42
Votes: 0
Admin comments: Eh.
Verdict: PASS

Trade 75
Dublin trade: Pick 47
Tokyo trade: Sam Durdin
Votes: 0
Admin comments: I remember when Durdin was Buenos Aires' only ruck in 2015...
Verdict: PASS

Trade 76
Buenos Aires trade: Pick 12 + Pick 13
Christchurch trade: Pick 14 + Pick 16 + Pick 18
Votes: 4
Admin comments: I did agonise a bit on this one. The coaches that negged all thought Christchurch was paying a little too much, sighting the difference between 13 & 14 and 12 & 16 not equal to Pick 18. But I can see why Christchurch added Pick 18, coz there next pick Pick 39 wouldn't have been enough. Even though I think Christchurch could have reasonably asked for and attained Buenos Aires' Pick 32 as well, this one isn't unfair enough for me to overturn the PASS decision. I'll also back-in meow's drafting prowess and trust he has someone(s) in mind. I'm viewing it as, in other trades that attracted 4-5 votes, the perceived "loser" of the trade could have asked for a mid-late second rounder too, and I deemed those as non-decision overturn-able. Note, I would not have overturned a reject decision either.
Verdict: PASS

Trade 77
New York trade: Tom Bellchambers, Matt Rosa, Nicholas Graham + Pick 37
Moscow trade: David Armitage + Zachary Clarke + Pick 60
Votes: 2
Admin comments: I don't see a whole lot of difference between Bellchambers & Clarke, but there you go.
Verdict: PASS




Thread updated

WXV Player Lists & Draft Order (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,108063.0.html)

Spreadsheet updated

WXV Trade Centre (http://jmp.sh/g3v7gq1)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on October 29, 2016, 05:20:24 PM
According to the AFL Draft index points system I should have also received pick 28 for the pick swap to be equal.

Think the Wilbur trade was worse though. Big chance he ends up as the #1 ruck at the Hawks and averages 80. That's worth a 90 average mid. For a rookie pick...

How did it pass?

Compo.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 29, 2016, 06:11:07 PM
We go pretty deep in the mids now

Mundy, Lewis, Duncan, Scully, Armitage, Tyson, Grigg, Picken all 90+

If you want one, and have a starting defender or forward to offer, hit me up
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Hellopplz on October 29, 2016, 08:57:35 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 29, 2016, 05:20:24 PM
According to the AFL Draft index points system I should have also received pick 28 for the pick swap to be equal.
Hey we negged :P. Given you may have done what Hawks did to get 10, your choice ;).
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on October 30, 2016, 11:36:21 AM
If anybody is willing to take a punt on; Colquhoun, Grey, Lucey, Murray, O'Shea (maybe)

Then lemme know. Happy to move up 1 position in either the Rookie or PSD drafts (I'd say NAT but not expecting anyone to give an upgrade on a top 20 pick :P)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 03, 2016, 12:14:13 PM
Only 15 days left of trading!

Odds on any big trades coming through from now until then?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on November 03, 2016, 12:50:43 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 03, 2016, 12:14:13 PM
Only 15 days left of trading!

Odds on any big trades coming through from now until then?
Gonna be hard for people to top our last trade tbqh
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on November 03, 2016, 12:51:04 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 03, 2016, 12:14:13 PM
Only 15 days left of trading!

Odds on any big trades coming through from now until then?

Hope so!

About to go into my 2nd exam so will take the night off, ive already got a few guys that ill have to reply to if you want to do some trade talking send Vin and i a message :P

Still got guys like Pendles, Curnow, Smith, Touhy, Adams, Wagner and although we are happy where we sit in the draft our picks can be traded or added to other deals if right (N14, N15, N18, N24, N25, N32....)

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on November 03, 2016, 12:52:14 PM
I'll try to up my confabulation after my exams are finished  :-[
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on November 03, 2016, 12:55:31 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 03, 2016, 12:52:14 PM
I'll try to up my confabulation after my exams are finished  :-[
Yehh, just got outta my first, got another 2 over the next week, then I'm free 8)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on November 03, 2016, 01:19:16 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 03, 2016, 12:14:13 PM
Only 15 days left of trading!

Odds on any big trades coming through from now until then?

something big might be coming from a Dublin with cap space.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 03, 2016, 01:38:05 PM
I can feel the energy - something is brewing!

I'm keen to get involved, so hit me up if we have something you like!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 03, 2016, 02:38:51 PM
Gibbs has been offered in fair deals to 3 teams today. 2 polite declines so far. Looks like he's not getting to Adelaide in WXV either.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 03, 2016, 03:10:19 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 03, 2016, 02:38:51 PM
Gibbs has been offered in fair deals to 3 teams today. 2 polite declines so far. Looks like he's not getting to Adelaide in WXV either.

More than happy to take him, but don't have what you want  :'(
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on November 03, 2016, 03:16:39 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 03, 2016, 02:38:51 PM
Gibbs has been offered in fair deals to 3 teams today. 2 polite declines so far. Looks like he's not getting to Adelaide in WXV either.

so your overselling him just like Carlton, so he unfortunately he stays at a non contender in his prime.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 03, 2016, 03:37:10 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 03, 2016, 03:16:39 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 03, 2016, 02:38:51 PM
Gibbs has been offered in fair deals to 3 teams today. 2 polite declines so far. Looks like he's not getting to Adelaide in WXV either.

so your overselling him just like Carlton, so he unfortunately he stays at a non contender in his prime.

Gibbs scored the 10th most SC points last year. That's pretty valuable.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on November 03, 2016, 03:54:29 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 03, 2016, 03:37:10 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 03, 2016, 03:16:39 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 03, 2016, 02:38:51 PM
Gibbs has been offered in fair deals to 3 teams today. 2 polite declines so far. Looks like he's not getting to Adelaide in WXV either.

so your overselling him just like Carlton, so he unfortunately he stays at a non contender in his prime.

Gibbs scored the 10th most SC points last year. That's pretty valuable.

no idea what your offers where though considering there was essentially nothing that Dublin could do to get him.

if it was with Mexico I assume it would be like Goddard + 26
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 03, 2016, 04:42:25 PM
No idea what my offers were but happy to say I'm overselling him. Righto m8
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on November 03, 2016, 04:45:41 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 03, 2016, 04:42:25 PM
No idea what my offers were but happy to say I'm overselling him. Righto m8

If people declined the trade then at best the trade was viewed as even. At worst overselling.

the jab was more at the saints then Gibbs



Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Levi434 on November 03, 2016, 05:26:11 PM
Confab with me.

Matthew Boyd
Robbie Tarrant
Brayden Maynard
Mitch Robinson
David Zaharakis
Scott Thompson
Aaron Hall
Sam Jacobs
Jack Watts
Mathew Wright
Elliot Yeo
Mason Wood
Aaron Francis
Danyle Pearce
Brendan Whitecross

Looking for slighty younger equal level players. Or just old washed up guns.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Koop on November 03, 2016, 06:39:41 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 03, 2016, 04:45:41 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 03, 2016, 04:42:25 PM
No idea what my offers were but happy to say I'm overselling him. Righto m8

If people declined the trade then at best the trade was viewed as even. At worst overselling.

the jab was more at the saints then Gibbs

To be fair, the deal that meow offered to Cape Town was fair, but afaik Dave wanted to stay young. Was a very good deal on paper.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 04, 2016, 03:07:33 PM
Any team want a big chance at the flag next year? Willing to package up Sandi, Mitchell, McVeigh, Joey, Wells, Waite in an absurd deal or series of deals. If I trade one it's likely that I'll trade them all/most of them. Higgo, Griff and Bob unlikely to move though.

No I won't trade Sandi for a pick in the 30's.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on November 04, 2016, 03:12:13 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 04, 2016, 03:07:33 PM
Any team want a big chance at the flag next year? Willing to package up Sandi, Mitchell, McVeigh, Joey, Wells, Waite in an absurd deal or series of deals. If I trade one it's likely that I'll trade them all/most of them. Higgo, Griff and Bob unlikely to move though.

No I won't trade Sandi for a pick in the 30's.

any team that would want that package wont be able to comes close to fitting that under the cap.

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 04, 2016, 05:33:17 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 04, 2016, 03:12:13 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 04, 2016, 03:07:33 PM
Any team want a big chance at the flag next year? Willing to package up Sandi, Mitchell, McVeigh, Joey, Wells, Waite in an absurd deal or series of deals. If I trade one it's likely that I'll trade them all/most of them. Higgo, Griff and Bob unlikely to move though.

No I won't trade Sandi for a pick in the 30's.

any team that would want that package wont be able to comes close to fitting that under the cap.

They'll probably have to give me something in return.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on November 04, 2016, 05:36:37 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 04, 2016, 05:33:17 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 04, 2016, 03:12:13 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 04, 2016, 03:07:33 PM
Any team want a big chance at the flag next year? Willing to package up Sandi, Mitchell, McVeigh, Joey, Wells, Waite in an absurd deal or series of deals. If I trade one it's likely that I'll trade them all/most of them. Higgo, Griff and Bob unlikely to move though.

No I won't trade Sandi for a pick in the 30's.

any team that would want that package wont be able to comes close to fitting that under the cap.

They'll probably have to give me something in return.

your list of players are guys past their prime.

the cap is bias so that players past their prime are the most expensive.

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 04, 2016, 06:00:10 PM
True. Didn't stop Mitchell and Wells from scoring as well as ever though. Joey won't average 110 but 95-100 is still reasonable.

The cap is easy to manage. I've got heaps of overpriced has-beens and yet it's only delisted players Goetz and Davis keeping me just over the minimum. I might apply for an exemption
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 05, 2016, 07:15:46 PM
If anyone else has draft picks they don't plan on using and want Rookie 15, 18, 26 or 32 then let me know.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on November 06, 2016, 12:56:17 PM
Been far too long between trades




Robbie Gray   722
Steele Sidebottom   641
Stefan Martin   566
Marc Murphy   531
Hamish Hartlett   482
Jack Ziebell   457
Bachar Houli   443
Jeremy Howe   433
Daniel Rich   348
Jack Darling   345
Sebastian Ross   315

Matt Crouch   305
Jake Lloyd   305
Nick Vlastuin   297
Jeremy Cameron   287
Travis Cloke   284
Jack Martin   267
Adam Oxley   253
Phil Davis   213
Nathan Krakouer   211
Simon White   206
Trent West   182

Aaron Mullett   180
Michael Jamison   171
Nicholas Robertson   150
Tom Curren   136
Darcy Tucker   135
Ed Langdon   133
Nakia Cockatoo   124
Riley Knight   120
Liam Sumner   117
Patrick McCartin   105
Archie Smith   100

Jordan Foote   100
Brandon Jack   100
Brant Colledge   100
Brayden Sier   100
Dallas Willsmore   100
Harley Balic   100
Jake Barrett   100
Nick O'Kearney   100
Tom Wallis   100
Zac Webster   100

Plus N72, N73 and N91

Not chasing anything in particular but open to offers on just about everyone

Gray, Sidey, MCrouch, SMartin, JMartin, Hartlett, Tucker probably only ones we won't consider trades for
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on November 06, 2016, 10:40:28 PM
Moscow will be happy!

(https://i.gyazo.com/996ccf1faeb6e164ccd0fad9b2de4b12.png)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on November 07, 2016, 02:37:39 PM
Quote from: GoLions on November 06, 2016, 10:40:28 PM
Moscow will be happy!

(https://i.gyazo.com/996ccf1faeb6e164ccd0fad9b2de4b12.png)
Is that sarcasm?  It sounds like he hasn't been training and that's a bad thing.  ;)

Obviously bad New York habits.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 07, 2016, 02:50:10 PM
Pls Torp

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on November 07, 2016, 02:50:56 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 07, 2016, 02:37:39 PM
Quote from: GoLions on November 06, 2016, 10:40:28 PM
Moscow will be happy!

(https://i.gyazo.com/996ccf1faeb6e164ccd0fad9b2de4b12.png)
Is that sarcasm?  It sounds like he hasn't been training and that's a bad thing.  ;)

Obviously bad New York habits.

Is Moscow getting relegated to WXV (vfl edition) where you get points for starting in the 2s?

then its great news, I reckon Belly is a chance to crack the VFL squad best 22.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 07, 2016, 03:46:04 PM
Don't quite understand why people often question Belly's JS

As long as he has been fit, he has always been in the best 22. Luey won't impact that either

Belly's a half decent forward option, where as Luey isn't

Luey R1 with Belcho R2 and playing forward along side Joe and Co seems pretty straight forward to me
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on November 07, 2016, 03:56:35 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 07, 2016, 03:46:04 PM
Don't quite understand why people often question Belly's JS

As long as he has been fit, he has always been in the best 22. Luey won't impact that either

Belly's a half decent forward option, where as Luey isn't

Luey R1 with Belcho R2 and playing forward along side Joe and Co seems pretty straight forward to me

He got dropped for no ruckmen last year. We played carlisle in the ruck and he got smashed. Thats again, with no key forwards.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 07, 2016, 04:56:20 PM
At a guess, I would think at one point or another nearly every team has put up offers for Tyson

Like I just mentioned to Purps and Rico, I either rate him too highly, or everyone is trying to get him for a bargain lol (Like we got him for :P)

I know he "only" averaged 91 this year (100+ average in 2nd half of season) and averaged 95 as a 21 year old, but with the amount of interest we're getting for him, I figured I might as well come out here and state that you need to put up a starting gun to land Dom

23 years of age. I'm probably overrating him a bit, but to be fair I'm not looking to trade him, so only a Godfather offer gets him. Not expecting to get one, so more than happy keep Dom as intended :)

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on November 07, 2016, 05:04:24 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 07, 2016, 04:56:20 PM
Like I just mentioned to Purps and Rico, I either rate him too highly, or everyone is trying to get him for a bargain lol (Like we got him for :P)
:'(
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Toga on November 08, 2016, 12:37:49 AM
Anyone got late ND picks they aren't gonna use?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on November 08, 2016, 10:23:40 AM
Just 10 more days until the trade period is over  :o

Remember, there is a 2nd trade period after the drafts, but that is VERY restricted. You can only do trades that addressed unexpected player positional changes, and they can only be 1 for 1, 2 for 2 etc. You only have 4 movements in that trade period as well.

It's expected that you address your team needs in this unrestricted trade period, so make the most of it!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on November 08, 2016, 01:45:39 PM
Jarrod Garlett released from contract  :-X that hurts for Moscow
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Hellopplz on November 08, 2016, 02:02:52 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 08, 2016, 01:45:39 PM
Jarrod Garlett released from contract  :-X that hurts for Moscow
:-X
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on November 08, 2016, 02:11:04 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on November 08, 2016, 02:02:52 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 08, 2016, 01:45:39 PM
Jarrod Garlett released from contract  :-X that hurts for Moscow
:-X
Daz and HP knew about it the whole time, I'm sure ;)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on November 08, 2016, 02:29:08 PM
We can't take a trick.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 08, 2016, 02:34:25 PM
Jeff Garlett wouldn't pull that shower. Gun.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on November 08, 2016, 04:08:51 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 08, 2016, 10:23:40 AM
Just 10 more days until the trade period is over  :o

Remember, there is a 2nd trade period after the drafts, but that is VERY restricted. You can only do trades that addressed unexpected player positional changes, and they can only be 1 for 1, 2 for 2 etc. You only have 4 movements in that trade period as well.

It's expected that you address your team needs in this unrestricted trade period, so make the most of it!
Can you also trade if a player unexpectedly keeps DPP?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on November 08, 2016, 04:59:14 PM
Quote from: GoLions on November 08, 2016, 04:08:51 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 08, 2016, 10:23:40 AM
Just 10 more days until the trade period is over  :o

Remember, there is a 2nd trade period after the drafts, but that is VERY restricted. You can only do trades that addressed unexpected player positional changes, and they can only be 1 for 1, 2 for 2 etc. You only have 4 movements in that trade period as well.

It's expected that you address your team needs in this unrestricted trade period, so make the most of it!
Can you also trade if a player unexpectedly keeps DPP?

I'll judge it case-by-case. Flick me a PM when the time comes if you are uncertain about it  :)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on November 08, 2016, 05:05:07 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 08, 2016, 04:59:14 PM
Quote from: GoLions on November 08, 2016, 04:08:51 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 08, 2016, 10:23:40 AM
Just 10 more days until the trade period is over  :o

Remember, there is a 2nd trade period after the drafts, but that is VERY restricted. You can only do trades that addressed unexpected player positional changes, and they can only be 1 for 1, 2 for 2 etc. You only have 4 movements in that trade period as well.

It's expected that you address your team needs in this unrestricted trade period, so make the most of it!
Can you also trade if a player unexpectedly keeps DPP?

I'll judge it case-by-case. Flick me a PM when the time comes if you are uncertain about it  :)

Dustin Martin DPP and lets call the season already.

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 08, 2016, 05:13:59 PM
Dublin to not make the GF again?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: elephants on November 08, 2016, 05:20:15 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 08, 2016, 05:13:59 PM
Dublin to not make the GF again?

Currently paying $1.01
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on November 08, 2016, 05:21:00 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 08, 2016, 05:13:59 PM
Dublin to not make the GF again?

Any team can have a down day, especially towards the end of the year with restings and players going in second gear.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 08, 2016, 05:24:23 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 08, 2016, 05:21:00 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 08, 2016, 05:13:59 PM
Dublin to not make the GF again?

Any team can have a down day, especially towards the end of the year with restings and players going in second gear.

Sounds like excuses for a lack of depth :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on November 08, 2016, 05:37:59 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 08, 2016, 05:24:23 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 08, 2016, 05:21:00 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 08, 2016, 05:13:59 PM
Dublin to not make the GF again?

Any team can have a down day, especially towards the end of the year with restings and players going in second gear.

Sounds like excuses for a lack of depth :P

Its actually a brag about how the guns kinda go at second gear towards the end of the year, where as the teams with average to good players try all year round.

Lance Franklin can pick up under 10 touches kick no goals and still be a walk up starter when finals come around.


Sloane, Rance Goldy, Dmart, Gunston, Jroo, Buddy combined for sub 500 when realistically should be expecting 700+
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: DazBurg on November 08, 2016, 06:27:20 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 08, 2016, 02:29:08 PM
We can't take a trick.

Karma for this :P

Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 26, 2016, 04:47:21 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on October 26, 2016, 02:08:43 PM
Damn Mckenzie delisted didn't see that coming :(
Safe to say I'm glad you declined my offers for him less than a week ago.

declined him accepted Garlett same result just karma settings things straight in the WXV world ;)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 08, 2016, 07:09:15 PM
Season 1: 4 matches
Season 2: 12 matches
Season 3: 1 match
Season 4: 1 match
Season 5: Won Brownlow medal

Alex Silvagni is following a similar path as the great Libba snr. Get your offers in now.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on November 08, 2016, 07:12:27 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 08, 2016, 05:37:59 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 08, 2016, 05:24:23 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 08, 2016, 05:21:00 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 08, 2016, 05:13:59 PM
Dublin to not make the GF again?

Any team can have a down day, especially towards the end of the year with restings and players going in second gear.

Sounds like excuses for a lack of depth :P

Its actually a brag about how the guns kinda go at second gear towards the end of the year, where as the teams with average to good players try all year round.

Lance Franklin can pick up under 10 touches kick no goals and still be a walk up starter when finals come around.


Sloane, Rance Goldy, Dmart, Gunston, Jroo, Buddy combined for sub 500 when realistically should be expecting 700+
So 2 key forwards that scored inconsistently in the last 4 games of the year (Gunston and JRoo), which key forwards do...

Then
Rance: 120, 126, 80, 90
Dusty: 123, 97, 82, 87
Goldy: 127, 92, 82, 99
Sloane: 137, 77, 93, DNP
Buddy: 60 (inj), 141, 34(inj), 136

Plus
Jelwood: 88, 101, 116, 124
Treloar: 98, 148, 131, 146


Guns going in 2nd gear
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 08, 2016, 07:16:31 PM
Who has the longest streak of games played for GC?





A: JOM of all people! 44 games.

Get your offers in now.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on November 08, 2016, 07:31:55 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 08, 2016, 07:16:31 PM
Who has the longest streak of games played for GC?





A: JOM of all people! 44 games.

Get your offers in now.
Hehe thanks for the advertising?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 08, 2016, 07:33:38 PM
Matt de Boer holds a very special place in WXV history (anyone?). Get your offers in now.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 08, 2016, 07:34:36 PM
Would love to see a massive 3-4 way trade get through before the period ends

I'm keen!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 08, 2016, 07:37:07 PM
Would love to see an 18-way get done. Get your offers in now.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on November 08, 2016, 07:44:59 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 08, 2016, 07:33:38 PM
Matt de Boer holds a very special place in WXV history (anyone?). Get your offers in now.

I have no idea :P but he has played 42 senior WXV games from 2012-14, which is abnormally high for a player of his calibre
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on November 08, 2016, 07:50:40 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 08, 2016, 07:34:36 PM
Would love to see a massive 3-4 way trade get through before the period ends

I'm keen!
+1!

Quote from: DazBurg on November 08, 2016, 06:27:20 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 08, 2016, 02:29:08 PM
We can't take a trick.

Karma for this :P

Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 26, 2016, 04:47:21 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on October 26, 2016, 02:08:43 PM
Damn Mckenzie delisted didn't see that coming :(
Safe to say I'm glad you declined my offers for him less than a week ago.

declined him accepted Garlett same result just karma settings things straight in the WXV world ;)
But that was true.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: DazBurg on November 08, 2016, 07:54:20 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 08, 2016, 07:50:40 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 08, 2016, 07:34:36 PM
Would love to see a massive 3-4 way trade get through before the period ends

I'm keen!
+1!

Quote from: DazBurg on November 08, 2016, 06:27:20 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 08, 2016, 02:29:08 PM
We can't take a trick.

Karma for this :P

Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 26, 2016, 04:47:21 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on October 26, 2016, 02:08:43 PM
Damn Mckenzie delisted didn't see that coming :(
Safe to say I'm glad you declined my offers for him less than a week ago.

declined him accepted Garlett same result just karma settings things straight in the WXV world ;)
But that was true.  :P

yeah i know just was funny it still turned out the same way
dodged one bullet and got hit by the other
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: upthemaidens on November 08, 2016, 08:19:06 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 08, 2016, 07:44:59 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 08, 2016, 07:33:38 PM
Matt de Boer holds a very special place in WXV history (anyone?). Get your offers in now.

I have no idea :P but he has played 42 senior WXV games from 2012-14, which is abnormally high for a player of his calibre
85.5 average as a forward in 2012.  Absolute gun player.
   This is a once in a lifetime opportunity to purchase the only player called Matt de Boer in the entire Comp.  As Meow said "Get your offers in now".
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 08, 2016, 08:33:28 PM
De Boer was a part (not apart) of the first ever WXV trade. Get your offers in now.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 08, 2016, 08:40:02 PM
Sexton for McInnes?

Negged

And when I said big, I mean big name players :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 08, 2016, 08:40:04 PM
Lester will be listed as a forward and play in the mids again under the new coach. Averaged 79 last time he played in the correct position. Get your offers in now.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 08, 2016, 08:43:52 PM
And I wouldn't bring JKH back to Christchurch. I traded him for one of the best players in the competition/all time.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on November 08, 2016, 09:01:11 PM
3 teams left to vote (London, Moscow, Tokyo)

These two trades will auto-pass

Trade 78
New York trade: Pick 57
Cape Town trade: Pick 58 + Pick 80

Trade 81
Berlin trade: Rookie Pick 7
Cape Town trade: Joel Smith + Rookie Pick 14
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Levi434 on November 08, 2016, 09:44:39 PM
Thoughts?



Beijing trades: Lachie Neale
Beijing receives: Stephen Coniglio

Berlin trades: Jack Steven
Berlin receives: Josh Kennedy

Buenos Aires trades: Scott Pendlebury
Buenos Aires receives: Tom Rockliff

Cairo trades: Dayne Beams
Cairo receives: Matt Priddis

Cape Town trades: Josh Kennedy
Cape Town receives: Robbie Gray

Christchurch trades: Bryce Gibbs
Christchurch receives: Gary Ablett

Dublin trades: Adam Treloar
Dublin receives: Dan Hannerbery

London trades: Dan Hannerbery
London receives: Bryce Gibbs
 
Mexico City trades: Tom Rockliff
Mexico City receives: Lachie Neale

Moscow trades: Stephen Coniglio
Moscow receives: Adam Treloar

New Delhi trades: Robbie Gray
New Delhi receives: Tom Mitchell

New York trades: Jordan Lewis
New York receives: David Swallow
   
Pacific trades: Tom Mitchell
Pacific receives: Luke Parker
   
PNL trades: Matt Priddis
PNL receives: Jack Macrae

Rio trades: Gary Ablett
Rio receives: Dayne Beams
   
Seoul trades: David Swallow
Seoul receives: Jordan Lewis

Tokyo trades: Luke Parker
Tokyo receives: Scott Pendlebury

Toronto trades: Jackson Macrae
Toronto receives: Jack Steven
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on November 08, 2016, 10:01:39 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on November 08, 2016, 09:44:39 PM
Berlin trades: Jack Steven
Berlin receives: Josh Kennedy

Tried and failed a while ago :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on November 08, 2016, 10:06:11 PM
Gimme Rocky or gtfo :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on November 08, 2016, 10:10:47 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on November 08, 2016, 09:44:39 PM
Thoughts?



Beijing trades: Lachie Neale
Beijing receives: Stephen Coniglio

Berlin trades: Jack Steven
Berlin receives: Josh Kennedy

Buenos Aires trades: Scott Pendlebury
Buenos Aires receives: Tom Rockliff

Cairo trades: Dayne Beams
Cairo receives: Matt Priddis

Cape Town trades: Josh Kennedy
Cape Town receives: Robbie Gray

Christchurch trades: Bryce Gibbs
Christchurch receives: Gary Ablett

Dublin trades: Adam Treloar
Dublin receives: Dan Hannerbery

London trades: Dan Hannerbery
London receives: Bryce Gibbs
 
Mexico City trades: Tom Rockliff
Mexico City receives: Lachie Neale

Moscow trades: Stephen Coniglio
Moscow receives: Adam Treloar

New Delhi trades: Robbie Gray
New Delhi receives: Tom Mitchell

New York trades: Jordan Lewis
New York receives: David Swallow
   
Pacific trades: Tom Mitchell
Pacific receives: Luke Parker
   
PNL trades: Matt Priddis
PNL receives: Jack Macrae

Rio trades: Gary Ablett
Rio receives: Dayne Beams
   
Seoul trades: David Swallow
Seoul receives: Jordan Lewis

Tokyo trades: Luke Parker
Tokyo receives: Scott Pendlebury

Toronto trades: Jackson Macrae
Toronto receives: Jack Steven
Confirmed?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on November 08, 2016, 11:26:00 PM
Compo.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on November 09, 2016, 12:33:32 AM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 08, 2016, 11:26:00 PM
Compo.

Moscow the clear winner in the deal
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 09, 2016, 03:09:15 AM
Quote from: Holz on November 09, 2016, 12:33:32 AM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 08, 2016, 11:26:00 PM
Compo.

Moscow the clear winner in the deal

He was talking about compo for Garlett, and you know what, I agree. Just pick 39 for Jeff was an absolute rip off and I deserve the compo.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 09, 2016, 08:37:18 AM
I'm putting together a large, multi team trade. If you want in on it send me a PM detailing what you're willing to put up and what you want in return. Can involve small players or some big names.

Teams without an old gun might struggle to obtain Gibbs in a seperate trade but cutting in another one or five teams could work.

To get quality you have to give quality.

The more players in the pool the easier it'll be to even the trades out.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on November 09, 2016, 10:35:13 AM
2 teams left to vote.

This trade auto-passes:

Trade 82
Christchurch trade: Rookie Pick 8
Cape Town trade: Pick 57
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on November 09, 2016, 10:48:46 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 09, 2016, 10:35:13 AM
2 teams left to vote.

This trade auto-passes:

Trade 82
Christchurch trade: Rookie Pick 8
Cape Town trade: Pick 57

surprised, that was the worst trade.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on November 09, 2016, 11:33:17 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 08, 2016, 10:01:39 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on November 08, 2016, 09:44:39 PM
Berlin trades: Jack Steven
Berlin receives: Josh Kennedy

Tried and failed a while ago :P
Haha, if I get Rocky and the Dildos get Gray, consider JPK yours ;D
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on November 09, 2016, 12:05:53 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on November 08, 2016, 09:44:39 PM
Thoughts?



Beijing trades: Lachie Neale
Beijing receives: Stephen Coniglio

Berlin trades: Jack Steven
Berlin receives: Josh Kennedy

Buenos Aires trades: Scott Pendlebury
Buenos Aires receives: Tom Rockliff

Cairo trades: Dayne Beams
Cairo receives: Matt Priddis

Cape Town trades: Josh Kennedy
Cape Town receives: Robbie Gray

Christchurch trades: Bryce Gibbs
Christchurch receives: Gary Ablett

Dublin trades: Adam Treloar
Dublin receives: Dan Hannerbery

London trades: Dan Hannerbery
London receives: Bryce Gibbs
 
Mexico City trades: Tom Rockliff
Mexico City receives: Lachie Neale

Moscow trades: Stephen Coniglio
Moscow receives: Adam Treloar

New Delhi trades: Robbie Gray
New Delhi receives: Tom Mitchell

New York trades: Jordan Lewis
New York receives: David Swallow
   
Pacific trades: Tom Mitchell
Pacific receives: Luke Parker
   
PNL trades: Matt Priddis
PNL receives: Jack Macrae

Rio trades: Gary Ablett
Rio receives: Dayne Beams
   
Seoul trades: David Swallow
Seoul receives: Jordan Lewis

Tokyo trades: Luke Parker
Tokyo receives: Scott Pendlebury

Toronto trades: Jackson Macrae
Toronto receives: Jack Steven
Ha not bad Levi!
Some would need a little added to make coaches wanna trade their own gun
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on November 09, 2016, 02:21:53 PM
Current picks I'm not gonna use:
N35 (currently involved in a trade)
PSD24
R8
R42
R60

Happy to package any or all of these with a player for an upgrade on that player. I think I'm 98k over the min cap as well, so any offers that see me losing cap $$$ by more than that I won't be able to accept #scrapthecap #kateuptoncobras #nolibbanony
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 09, 2016, 02:40:26 PM
Had a decent amount of interest in the big trade so far but it'll be better for everyone with more teams involved. That means you GoLoins.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on November 09, 2016, 02:56:30 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 09, 2016, 02:40:26 PM
Had a decent amount of interest in the big trade so far but it'll be better for everyone with more teams involved. That means you GoLoins.

just remember big trades should be harder to pass.

I had a deal 13/18 coaches pass it and it still failed.

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on November 09, 2016, 03:00:25 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 09, 2016, 02:40:26 PM
Had a decent amount of interest in the big trade so far but it'll be better for everyone with more teams involved. That means you GoLoins.
Cape Town give: JPK
Cape Town get: Rocky

Everyone else: idgaf

:P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on November 09, 2016, 03:01:28 PM
Hypothetically, if we had an 18-team trade, would it auto-pass?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 09, 2016, 03:45:55 PM
No. Wouldn't be the first time that I've negged my own trade since it's unfair.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on November 09, 2016, 04:17:41 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on November 08, 2016, 06:27:20 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 08, 2016, 02:29:08 PM
We can't take a trick.

Karma for this :P

Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 26, 2016, 04:47:21 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on October 26, 2016, 02:08:43 PM
Damn Mckenzie delisted didn't see that coming :(
Safe to say I'm glad you declined my offers for him less than a week ago.

declined him accepted Garlett same result just karma settings things straight in the WXV world ;)

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-11-09/young-lion-jaden-mcgrath-quits-footy-after-losing-desire-to-play

Karma keeps on swingin :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 09, 2016, 04:42:52 PM
Shaun McKernan delisted

Could go down as the greatest potential Pick 12 in WXV  :P

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on November 09, 2016, 04:56:46 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 09, 2016, 04:42:52 PM
Shaun McKernan delisted

Could go down as the greatest potential Pick 12 in WXV  :P

Lol, I've been holding off from saying anything for like 2 months now, but I can't let this slip anymore

Quote from: Purple 77 on September 06, 2015, 08:11:16 PM
Trade 43
Christchurch trade: Shaun McKernan
Rio de Janeiro trade: Pick 12

Trade 51
Christchurch trade: Shaun McKernan + Dillon Viojo-Rainbow
Rio de Janeiro trade: Pick 12

Boy did I get hate for negging the second one from 3 votes!

You're welcome Rio :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on November 09, 2016, 05:18:48 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 09, 2016, 04:56:46 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 09, 2016, 04:42:52 PM
Shaun McKernan delisted

Could go down as the greatest potential Pick 12 in WXV  :P

Lol, I've been holding off from saying anything for like 2 months now, but I can't let this slip anymore

Quote from: Purple 77 on September 06, 2015, 08:11:16 PM
Trade 43
Christchurch trade: Shaun McKernan
Rio de Janeiro trade: Pick 12

Trade 51
Christchurch trade: Shaun McKernan + Dillon Viojo-Rainbow
Rio de Janeiro trade: Pick 12

Boy did I get hate for negging the second one from 3 votes!

You're welcome Rio :P

Heres the really funny thing. If that trade was passed then this trade probably doesn't happen.

Rio de Janeiro trade: Jobe Watson + Pick 12
Christchurch trade: Picks 2, Pick 26 + Pick 46

so Rio would have Watson and Saints would probably have Jacob Hopper.

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 09, 2016, 05:42:47 PM
2, 26, 29, 46 for 16, 39 and 40. Seems good.

2, 26, 46 for Watson +12
12 for Trengove (plus Scully for Koby)
Watson + 29 for 14 + 39
Trengove for 40

Not to mention Zorko for Griff + some Richmond spud

Seems I can get ripped off and it's all good but as soon as I win a trade (that the other team suggested) the negs flow freely.

So Rio gave me Watson and NDT gave me Trengove. Both made the GF while I went from 3rd to 11th.

Compo
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: DazBurg on November 09, 2016, 06:07:28 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 09, 2016, 04:17:41 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on November 08, 2016, 06:27:20 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 08, 2016, 02:29:08 PM
We can't take a trick.

Karma for this :P

Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 26, 2016, 04:47:21 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on October 26, 2016, 02:08:43 PM
Damn Mckenzie delisted didn't see that coming :(
Safe to say I'm glad you declined my offers for him less than a week ago.

declined him accepted Garlett same result just karma settings things straight in the WXV world ;)

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-11-09/young-lion-jaden-mcgrath-quits-footy-after-losing-desire-to-play

Karma keeps on swingin :P

meh makes it easier for our picks and spots

still not too bad minchinton + 63
for
45
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on November 09, 2016, 06:15:07 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 09, 2016, 05:42:47 PM
2, 26, 29, 46 for 16, 39 and 40. Seems good.

2, 26, 46 for Watson +12
12 for Trengove (plus Scully for Koby)
Watson + 29 for 14 + 39
Trengove for 40

Not to mention Zorko for Griff + some Richmond spud

Seems I can get ripped off and it's all good but as soon as I win a trade (that the other team suggested) the negs flow freely.

So Rio gave me Watson and NDT gave me Trengove. Both made the GF while I went from 3rd to 11th.

Compo

Roughy for zorko + 21 didnt work out great for me

Lucky boak + 12 for Sloane was amazing.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 09, 2016, 10:32:05 PM
4 × 18 = 72

Worst bext XV defender should be around 70 (72nd best averaged 69)
Average of 81.41

Worst best XV forwards should be around the 65 mark (72nd best averaged 65)
Average of 77.11

Worst best XV ruck will be around the 70 mark
Average of 87.48

Your 4 mids should be averaging 99.41 between them, the worst being 86.5

6 × 18 = 108
Assuming teams go in with 6 mids, the worst best XV interchange player should be around 75 average mark (108th best averaged 75)
Average of 80.85 in the Interchange (73rd-108th best mids)

If you've got players better than the average numbers you're doing well in that position.

The worst captain should be putting up 108. The average captain should be putting up 112.85
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 09, 2016, 10:50:34 PM
Even Dublin doesn't have a team above average in every position. Mine is

BAC: A, A. A, B
MID: A, A, A, B
RUC: B
FOR: A, A, B, B
INT: A, B
CAPT: B

My captain doesn't even have the right to be a captain, since he's not only below average, he's not even in the top 18. Some teams have 2+ captain options better than my best.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: upthemaidens on November 09, 2016, 10:59:52 PM
Tim Mohr has just signed for another 2 years with GWS.  Averages of 69.5 and 72.3 in the past, so could be a handy Defender for your Club.
    Will consider any offers, whether it's a player or draft pick.  Can package him up with something else, if need be.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on November 10, 2016, 01:29:06 AM
Quote from: upthemaidens on November 09, 2016, 10:59:52 PM
Tim Mohr has just signed for another 2 years with GWS.  Averages of 69.5 and 72.3 in the past, so could be a handy Defender for your Club.
    Will consider any offers, whether it's a player or draft pick.  Can package him up with something else, if need be.

Pnedles?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: upthemaidens on November 10, 2016, 06:37:40 AM
Quote from: iZander on November 10, 2016, 01:29:06 AM
Quote from: upthemaidens on November 09, 2016, 10:59:52 PM
Tim Mohr has just signed for another 2 years with GWS.  Averages of 69.5 and 72.3 in the past, so could be a handy Defender for your Club.
    Will consider any offers, whether it's a player or draft pick.  Can package him up with something else, if need be.

Pnedles?
Sure, post it up and we'll confirm.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on November 10, 2016, 01:32:49 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 09, 2016, 10:50:34 PM
Even Dublin doesn't have a team above average in every position. Mine is

would have to be close.

Omac averaged 69 so like 0.5 away from the 72nd best defender.
Weits averaged 68 so 1 point below the 72nd best defender, but that was in his first year carrying an injury.

I  obviously smash it in the mids if 86.5 being the worst (mines like 105) and the average being 99+ mine would be pushing 110.

Ruck well well above average

My forward obviously beat the average and the 72nd best of 65. Well Daw beats that.

Both the utilities are top 72 (and the M7)

so

BAC: A, A. A, B+
MID: A, A, A, A
RUC: A
FOR: A, A, A, A
INT: A, A
CAPT: A

so while technically correct for last year, given the defender retirings alone I now have a whole sqaud of top 72s.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 10, 2016, 01:49:09 PM
What are using to justify your grading's of A,B etc?

Is it just A for above the position average and B for below?

Mundy, Gibson, TMac, Hurn
Lewis, Duncan, Scully, Arma
Tippett
JJK, Heeney, Menzel, Picken
Tyson, Grigg

How does that stack up? Is that A's all over except B for Captain?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 10, 2016, 01:56:31 PM
A for above average
B for below average

OMac is more than 10 points below average, he's on the cusp of being good enough to be a starter (a top 72 player)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 10, 2016, 02:01:16 PM
I think we're all A's

Just B for Captain  :'(
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on November 10, 2016, 02:01:47 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 10, 2016, 01:56:31 PM
A for above average
B for below average

OMac is more than 10 points below average, he's on the cusp of being good enough to be a starter (a top 72 player)

ok misinterpreted you

so yeah my F4 and D4 are below average.

not sure anyone will ever have a whole team above average. Every team has some weakens.

that is unless Jack gets DPP and then Weits keeps going. Or a trade a super gun to fix up D4 F4.

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 10, 2016, 02:06:13 PM
Scully below average
Armitage below average

Which is good. An even comp would have a mix of 2 above, 2 below in every position except ruck, and one each on the bench. Obviously it matters how far above or below the players are but it's still interesting.

Edit: Duncan below average too.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on November 10, 2016, 02:08:29 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 10, 2016, 02:01:16 PM
I think we're all A's

Just B for Captain  :'(

BAC: A, A, A, B
MID: B, B, B, B
RUC: A
FOR: A, A, A, B
INT: A,A
CAPT: F

so not all As.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on November 10, 2016, 02:08:47 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 10, 2016, 02:01:16 PM
I think we're all A's

Just B for Captain  :'(
Isn't your entire midfield below avg from meow's numbers? (except maybe Lewis)

You'd be above the worst avg for each position though.

I think my only guys above average are JPK, Pittard, and Hawkins. But I'm ok with that considering the guys under include Mills, Prestia, Hunter, Miller, Blicavs, Blacres, Lmac, Collins who should all get better. Don't talk to me about rucks though :P

Also, looks like I'm above the worst avg in each position which is handy.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Levi434 on November 10, 2016, 02:15:00 PM
Open to trading Sam Jacobs + any combo of the following:

Nat 19, Nat 29, Aaron Francis, Brayden Maynard, Jackson Ramsay, Taylor Hunt, Zaine Cordy, Ben McKay, Mitch Robinson, David Zaharakis, Danyle Pearce, Leiws Jetta, Jack Redpath, Cam Pedersen.

I'd be looking for a half-decent ruck in return. According to meow's stats they need to average over 70. So I'd be looking for just about a 75 ruck.

Mainly looking for mids.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 10, 2016, 02:19:45 PM
I'll be playing 2 worse than worst XV quality forwards next year.

Probably 4 since the 2 starting/above average forwards are Waite and Higgins.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 10, 2016, 03:31:09 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 10, 2016, 02:08:29 PM
BAC: A, A, A, B
MID: B, B, B, B
RUC: A
FOR: A, A, A, B
INT: A,A
CAPT: F

so not all As.

Pretty sure D4 (Hurn) and F4 (Picken) are A's?

Lewis would be right on A too, just

Don't mind having all those B's in the mids because their solid with upside

F Captain is harsh, but whatever


Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 10, 2016, 03:55:36 PM
Basically the whole point was that

81 ave Def
93 ave Mid (if we're going with 6)
87 ave Ruc
77 ave Fwd

are all worth roughly the same based on averages. The rucks are skewed due to the low amount and wild variation so disregard them, everyone knows they're worth more. Teams asking for a 85 average forward in exchange for their 95 average mid are slightly off, since their mid is just 2 above average while the forward is 8 above.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Vinny on November 10, 2016, 05:17:27 PM
iZander and I are finished exams so can get back to trading!

Hit us up if you want any of Pendles and friends.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on November 10, 2016, 05:34:37 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 10, 2016, 03:31:09 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 10, 2016, 02:08:29 PM
BAC: A, A, A, B
MID: B, B, B, B
RUC: A
FOR: A, A, A, B
INT: A,A
CAPT: F

so not all As.

Pretty sure D4 (Hurn) and F4 (Picken) are A's?

Lewis would be right on A too, just

Don't mind having all those B's in the mids because their solid with upside

F Captain is harsh, but whatever

There is literally 1 team with a worse captain option, for a team aiming for a flag your captain option is certainly an F :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 10, 2016, 06:17:34 PM
Don't really need a super captain to win a flag

Obviously it helps, but it's certainly not the be all and end all

108+ mids are too hard to get. We're doing the best with what we have built up :)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on November 10, 2016, 07:21:32 PM
Quote from: iZander on November 10, 2016, 05:34:37 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 10, 2016, 03:31:09 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 10, 2016, 02:08:29 PM
BAC: A, A, A, B
MID: B, B, B, B
RUC: A
FOR: A, A, A, B
INT: A,A
CAPT: F

so not all As.

Pretty sure D4 (Hurn) and F4 (Picken) are A's?

Lewis would be right on A too, just

Don't mind having all those B's in the mids because their solid with upside

F Captain is harsh, but whatever

There is literally 1 team with a worse captain option, for a team aiming for a flag your captain option is certainly an F :P
Pretty harsh coming from a  team who would have a 95 average captain without Pendles.  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on November 10, 2016, 07:25:05 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 10, 2016, 07:21:32 PM
Quote from: iZander on November 10, 2016, 05:34:37 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 10, 2016, 03:31:09 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 10, 2016, 02:08:29 PM
BAC: A, A, A, B
MID: B, B, B, B
RUC: A
FOR: A, A, A, B
INT: A,A
CAPT: F

so not all As.

Pretty sure D4 (Hurn) and F4 (Picken) are A's?

Lewis would be right on A too, just

Don't mind having all those B's in the mids because their solid with upside

F Captain is harsh, but whatever

There is literally 1 team with a worse captain option, for a team aiming for a flag your captain option is certainly an F :P
Pretty harsh coming from a  team who would have a 95 average captain without Pendles.  ;)
well, we would still have a better captain option without pendles to be actually fair Torp, but if we didnt have pendles and you gave us an F for captain option i wouldnt say its harsh :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on November 10, 2016, 07:27:51 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 10, 2016, 06:17:34 PM
Don't really need a super captain to win a flag

Obviously it helps, but it's certainly not the be all and end all

108+ mids are too hard to get. We're doing the best with what we have built up :)

yeah no doubt :P Arent easy to get! Very consistent team, really just that captain choice :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 10, 2016, 08:58:55 PM
Don't worry Torp, iZander likes to take jabs at me from time to time

You should trade us Pendles, because he's going to waste at Buenos Aires :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on November 10, 2016, 09:32:49 PM
Somebody, please! Talk Trades!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 10, 2016, 09:39:54 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 10, 2016, 09:32:49 PM
Somebody, please! Talk Trades!

Put someone better on the table than Basti and I'm all ears! :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on November 10, 2016, 09:46:24 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 10, 2016, 09:39:54 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 10, 2016, 09:32:49 PM
Somebody, please! Talk Trades!

Put someone better on the table than Basti and I'm all ears! :P
Anyone is on the table for a fair price.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on November 11, 2016, 12:14:59 AM
I won't have my fancy spreadsheets with me for the next few days, so I won't be able to make things official for a little bit, but with the last vote in, I can say the last two trades auto pass with 3 votes each.

One was saying Dublin had to give up more, whilst the other said Henderson was worth more.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Hellopplz on November 11, 2016, 12:35:42 PM
Woot woot, PNL rebuild continues after those retirements :P. Priddis and Hodge remain for the experience and allow some time for youngsters to come in.

If anybody wants pick 47, we may be able to pair it off with something to upgrade somewhere, so if anybody wants it hit us up. We aren't expecting huge names, most likely pick upgrade or an average player upgrade (that we like of course). Or maybe even a straight depending :P.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on November 11, 2016, 12:51:45 PM
Pendles could be on his way out, hit Vin and i up with an offer if ur interested :p
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on November 11, 2016, 01:08:24 PM
Quote from: iZander on November 11, 2016, 12:51:45 PM
Pendles could be on his way out, hit Vin and i up with an offer if ur interested :p
I'll believe it when I see it.  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on November 11, 2016, 01:17:56 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 10, 2016, 09:46:24 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 10, 2016, 09:39:54 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 10, 2016, 09:32:49 PM
Somebody, please! Talk Trades!

Put someone better on the table than Basti and I'm all ears! :P
Anyone is on the table for a fair price.
everyone seems to cost way unders (Gray, Weits)

or way way over - basically everyone left.

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on November 11, 2016, 02:22:36 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 11, 2016, 01:17:56 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 10, 2016, 09:46:24 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 10, 2016, 09:39:54 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 10, 2016, 09:32:49 PM
Somebody, please! Talk Trades!

Put someone better on the table than Basti and I'm all ears! :P
Anyone is on the table for a fair price.
everyone seems to cost way unders (Gray, Weits)

or way way over - basically everyone left.
You realise I got Coniglio from Gray, who I have a sneaky suspicion is going to flop next year for various reasons.

Weits, well he will be a solid 80 but I think Schaz can exceed that.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on November 11, 2016, 02:49:51 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 06, 2016, 12:56:17 PM
Been far too long between trades




Robbie Gray   722
Steele Sidebottom   641
Stefan Martin   566
Marc Murphy   531
Hamish Hartlett   482
Jack Ziebell   457
Bachar Houli   443
Jeremy Howe   433
Daniel Rich   348
Jack Darling   345
Sebastian Ross   315

Matt Crouch   305
Jake Lloyd   305
Nick Vlastuin   297
Jeremy Cameron   287
Travis Cloke   284
Jack Martin   267
Adam Oxley   253
Phil Davis   213
Nathan Krakouer   211
Simon White   206
Trent West   182

Aaron Mullett   180
Michael Jamison   171
Nicholas Robertson   150
Tom Curren   136
Darcy Tucker   135
Ed Langdon   133
Nakia Cockatoo   124
Riley Knight   120
Liam Sumner   117
Patrick McCartin   105
Archie Smith   100

Jordan Foote   100
Brandon Jack   100
Brant Colledge   100
Brayden Sier   100
Dallas Willsmore   100
Harley Balic   100
Jake Barrett   100
Nick O'Kearney   100
Tom Wallis   100
Zac Webster   100

Plus N72, N73 and N91

Not chasing anything in particular but open to offers on just about everyone

Gray, Sidey, MCrouch, SMartin, JMartin, Hartlett, Tucker probably only ones we won't consider trades for
Looking into what we want a bit more atm


Ideally we'd like to land a top end premo fwd, or an upgrade of any of the mids below

MMurphy
JZ
Rich
Ross
JLloyd
Howe (probably only if we can get a premo fwd but still willing to see anything)
Vlastuin (similar to Howe)


Depth that can be used as well
Cloke
Cockatoo (possibly)
McCartin (possibly)
Oxley
PDavis
NRobertson
etc (basically anyone valued lower than these)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on November 11, 2016, 03:04:04 PM
I'll get back to people on trade offers later tonight/tomorrow morning. Been a bit busayyyy.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: JBs-Hawks on November 11, 2016, 06:25:23 PM
Interested in some top 40 picks if anyone is looking to move some
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on November 11, 2016, 07:20:54 PM
All my rookies avilable
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 12, 2016, 10:14:02 AM
How's the big trade you're trying to put together meow?

Haven't heard much, so assuming it might fizz?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on November 12, 2016, 07:28:35 PM
Quote from: GoLions on November 11, 2016, 03:04:04 PM
I'll get back to people on trade offers later tonight/tomorrow morning. Been a bit busayyyy.
If I've forgotten to respond to you, chuck me another PM :)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 13, 2016, 11:48:57 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 12, 2016, 10:14:02 AM
How's the big trade you're trying to put together meow?

Haven't heard much, so assuming it might fizz?

I think the only way it'll happen is if it gets thrashed out on chat. Too many slow replies and vague answers in the PM's to get anywhere.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on November 13, 2016, 12:02:30 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 13, 2016, 11:48:57 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 12, 2016, 10:14:02 AM
How's the big trade you're trying to put together meow?

Haven't heard much, so assuming it might fizz?

I think the only way it'll happen is if it gets thrashed out on chat. Too many slow replies and vague answers in the PM's to get anywhere.
Haha no1s ever in chat anymore so doesn't look likely haha :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 13, 2016, 12:06:42 PM
We've still got a week. It'll probably drop at 11:59:58 next Sunday.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Nige on November 13, 2016, 12:18:28 PM
Quote from: iZander on November 13, 2016, 12:02:30 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 13, 2016, 11:48:57 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 12, 2016, 10:14:02 AM
How's the big trade you're trying to put together meow?

Haven't heard much, so assuming it might fizz?

I think the only way it'll happen is if it gets thrashed out on chat. Too many slow replies and vague answers in the PM's to get anywhere.
Haha no1s ever in chat anymore so doesn't look likely haha :P
I can't even load chat anymore for some reason.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 13, 2016, 12:18:40 PM
Well it's a pretty miserable day in Melbourne today so I'll be home all day and can jump on chat whenever

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 13, 2016, 12:28:00 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 13, 2016, 12:18:28 PM
Quote from: iZander on November 13, 2016, 12:02:30 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 13, 2016, 11:48:57 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 12, 2016, 10:14:02 AM
How's the big trade you're trying to put together meow?

Haven't heard much, so assuming it might fizz?

I think the only way it'll happen is if it gets thrashed out on chat. Too many slow replies and vague answers in the PM's to get anywhere.
Haha no1s ever in chat anymore so doesn't look likely haha :P
I can't even load chat anymore for some reason.  :P

Should have listened to your mother's rant.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Nige on November 13, 2016, 12:29:01 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 13, 2016, 12:28:00 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 13, 2016, 12:18:28 PM
Quote from: iZander on November 13, 2016, 12:02:30 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 13, 2016, 11:48:57 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 12, 2016, 10:14:02 AM
How's the big trade you're trying to put together meow?

Haven't heard much, so assuming it might fizz?

I think the only way it'll happen is if it gets thrashed out on chat. Too many slow replies and vague answers in the PM's to get anywhere.
Haha no1s ever in chat anymore so doesn't look likely haha :P
I can't even load chat anymore for some reason.  :P

Should have listened to your mother's rant.
Ahaha, I'll never learn.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 13, 2016, 01:01:54 PM
Do we want to organise a time today to get on chat?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 13, 2016, 02:32:19 PM
1245 replies is a dismal effort. Just over half as many as last year's thread.

Nathan Wilson
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 13, 2016, 02:34:48 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 13, 2016, 02:32:19 PM
1245 replies is a dismal effort. Just over half as many as last year's thread.

Nathan Wilson

Plenty of teams have barely been involved this year  :-\



Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Nige on November 13, 2016, 02:36:56 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 13, 2016, 02:34:48 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 13, 2016, 02:32:19 PM
1245 replies is a dismal effort. Just over half as many as last year's thread.

Nathan Wilson

Plenty of teams have barely been involved this year  :-\
The activity levels of certain coaches combined with some pretty ridiculous offers, demands and valuing of players is the reason.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Levi434 on November 13, 2016, 02:41:25 PM
Just posting to junk up the post count.

Ben Jacobs still available but would want a top 10 Nat pick for him.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Levi434 on November 13, 2016, 02:42:32 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on November 13, 2016, 02:41:25 PM
Just posting to junk up the post count.

Ben Jacobs still available but would want a top 10 Nat pick for him.

;D
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Levi434 on November 13, 2016, 02:44:31 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on November 13, 2016, 02:42:32 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on November 13, 2016, 02:41:25 PM
Just posting to junk up the post count.

Ben Jacobs still available but would want a top 10 Nat pick for him.

;D

Levi you're a funny fella
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: elephants on November 13, 2016, 02:49:45 PM
Needs more memes in here
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 13, 2016, 03:06:00 PM
Purple 77, do draft picks have a $100,000 cap attached to them or not?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Levi434 on November 13, 2016, 03:07:11 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 13, 2016, 02:56:49 PM
There's something major brewing in chat that will have significant implications. 1000 relies worthy. 500 Holz, 500 myself like the good old days.

Can confirm.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 13, 2016, 04:56:57 PM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/JSxR8aX9qmnBu/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 13, 2016, 05:08:16 PM
You forgot a slide in there

(http://anglicanliving.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/RVA-300x213.png)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 13, 2016, 05:24:47 PM
Waite is the only one who certainly won't go around again in 2018.

Mitchell will play for 2 seasons
Wells has a 3 year contract
Joey has 1-3 years left off half back like Boyd
McVeigh has 1-3 years left
Waite has one season in him
Sandilands will probably play for 1 more, but if Freo can't get another ruck he might go for 2. He's not going to shrink and has no athleticsm to lose.

So that's 9-14 seasons between them.

Plus apparenly economics 101 says that the immediate is worth more than the future.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on November 13, 2016, 06:19:34 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 13, 2016, 02:34:48 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 13, 2016, 02:32:19 PM
1245 replies is a dismal effort. Just over half as many as last year's thread.

Nathan Wilson

Plenty of teams have barely been involved this year  :-\
20 trades last year
Only 9 this year

Ele, we need to pick our game up
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 13, 2016, 06:25:37 PM
2014: 22
2015: 12
2016: 21
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on November 13, 2016, 09:01:02 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 13, 2016, 03:06:00 PM
Purple 77, do draft picks have a $100,000 cap attached to them or not?

Draftees do, draft picks don't.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 13, 2016, 10:48:25 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 13, 2016, 09:01:02 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 13, 2016, 03:06:00 PM
Purple 77, do draft picks have a $100,000 cap attached to them or not?

Draftees do, draft picks don't.

So you basically need to factor in that every pick you plan on using is 100k to your overall cap
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on November 14, 2016, 08:19:40 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 13, 2016, 10:48:25 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 13, 2016, 09:01:02 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 13, 2016, 03:06:00 PM
Purple 77, do draft picks have a $100,000 cap attached to them or not?

Draftees do, draft picks don't.

So you basically need to factor in that every pick you plan on using is 100k to your overall cap

Yep
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: elephants on November 14, 2016, 01:26:38 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 13, 2016, 06:19:34 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 13, 2016, 02:34:48 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 13, 2016, 02:32:19 PM
1245 replies is a dismal effort. Just over half as many as last year's thread.

Nathan Wilson

Plenty of teams have barely been involved this year  :-\
20 trades last year
Only 9 this year

Ele, we need to pick our game up

Its tough, hard to improve on greatness but we can only try.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 14, 2016, 01:47:57 PM
Purps, can I block your trade on the basis of you saying you want to sure up your midfield, when in fact you should have said shore up? I've seen it too many times lately and these injustices need to be squashed.

I'm legitimately related to Adolf on my mother's side.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on November 14, 2016, 01:49:58 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 14, 2016, 01:47:57 PM
Purps, can I block your trade on the basis of you saying you want to sure up your midfield, when in fact you should have said shore up? I've seen it too many times lately and these injustices need to be squashed.

I'm legitimately related to Adolf on my mother's side.
i'm shore you can
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 14, 2016, 01:50:39 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 14, 2016, 01:49:58 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 14, 2016, 01:47:57 PM
Purps, can I block your trade on the basis of you saying you want to sure up your midfield, when in fact you should have said shore up? I've seen it too many times lately and these injustices need to be squashed.

I'm legitimately related to Adolf on my mother's side.
i'm shore you can

I'm shaw you can too
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on November 14, 2016, 04:59:11 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 14, 2016, 01:47:57 PM
Purps, can I block your trade on the basis of you saying you want to sure up your midfield, when in fact you should have said shore up? I've seen it too many times lately and these injustices need to be squashed.

I'm legitimately related to Adolf on my mother's side.

I understand.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 14, 2016, 05:20:01 PM
I'll be negging the trade because Basti is GOAT

Fyfe + Gawn at a minimum for it to pass
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on November 14, 2016, 06:44:02 PM
Pendles gone, final call.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 14, 2016, 11:48:40 PM
Alright, trade period is nearly over so I'm going for it!

We need a captain, a genuine captain option

Tom McDonald, Dom Tyson, anyone except Heeney

Got a genuine captain you will trade? Hit me up because I'm ready to pay up!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on November 15, 2016, 12:27:15 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 14, 2016, 11:48:40 PM
Alright, trade period is nearly over so I'm going for it!

We need a captain, a genuine captain option

Tom McDonald, Dom Tyson, anyone except Heeney

Got a genuine captain you will trade? Hit me up because I'm ready to pay up!
Simon White still avaliable

We'll put him on hold for 24hrs for you to give you time to make a serious offer
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on November 15, 2016, 01:10:47 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 15, 2016, 12:27:15 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 14, 2016, 11:48:40 PM
Alright, trade period is nearly over so I'm going for it!

We need a captain, a genuine captain option

Tom McDonald, Dom Tyson, anyone except Heeney

Got a genuine captain you will trade? Hit me up because I'm ready to pay up!
Simon White still avaliable

We'll put him on hold for 24hrs for you to give you time to make a serious offer
flower. I was LITERALLY just about to make an offer for him.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on November 15, 2016, 01:23:10 AM
Quote from: GoLions on November 15, 2016, 01:10:47 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 15, 2016, 12:27:15 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 14, 2016, 11:48:40 PM
Alright, trade period is nearly over so I'm going for it!

We need a captain, a genuine captain option

Tom McDonald, Dom Tyson, anyone except Heeney

Got a genuine captain you will trade? Hit me up because I'm ready to pay up!
Simon White still avaliable

We'll put him on hold for 24hrs for you to give you time to make a serious offer
flower. I was LITERALLY just about to make an offer for him.
We've only got ourselves to blame tbh, probably should have advertised him more
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on November 15, 2016, 01:28:40 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 15, 2016, 01:23:10 AM
Quote from: GoLions on November 15, 2016, 01:10:47 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 15, 2016, 12:27:15 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 14, 2016, 11:48:40 PM
Alright, trade period is nearly over so I'm going for it!

We need a captain, a genuine captain option

Tom McDonald, Dom Tyson, anyone except Heeney

Got a genuine captain you will trade? Hit me up because I'm ready to pay up!
Simon White still avaliable

We'll put him on hold for 24hrs for you to give you time to make a serious offer
flower. I was LITERALLY just about to make an offer for him.
We've only got ourselves to blame tbh, probably should have advertised him more
Yeah, it seemed as though he had flown under the radar a little bit.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 15, 2016, 02:25:10 AM
10th most points in 2016.

Gibbs > Fyfe

Will probably be gone within the next day so if you want him speak up now.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: upthemaidens on November 15, 2016, 12:24:02 PM
J.Hamling provides good job security depth to your defence.  A package of Hamling+PSD#30+R#30  is available, looking for a Nat pick.

Other players and picks are available as well, if needed.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on November 15, 2016, 06:37:01 PM
Finally got round to updating Trades 78-82  :-[

Thread updated

WXV Player Lists & Draft Order (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,108063.0.html)

Spreadsheet updated

WXV Trade Centre (http://jmp.sh/g3v7gq1)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 15, 2016, 06:40:12 PM
I've got the most salary cap space at this point so if anyone is feeling the squeeze and wants to offload their best player I suppose I could help you out.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on November 15, 2016, 06:41:50 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 15, 2016, 06:40:12 PM
I've got the most salary cap space at this point so if anyone is feeling the squeeze and wants to offload their best player I suppose I could help you out.
I guess I'll take the 2nd best player as I only have 3k less space than meow :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on November 15, 2016, 06:46:05 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 15, 2016, 06:40:12 PM
I've got the most salary cap space at this point so if anyone is feeling the squeeze and wants to offload their best player I suppose I could help you out.
In just under 6hrs you Simon White will be available, but I expect RD will have snapped him up before then
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on November 15, 2016, 06:50:10 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 15, 2016, 06:46:05 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 15, 2016, 06:40:12 PM
I've got the most salary cap space at this point so if anyone is feeling the squeeze and wants to offload their best player I suppose I could help you out.
In just under 6hrs you Simon White will be available, but I expect RD will have snapped him up before then
He'd look quite the fool if he hasn't!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on November 15, 2016, 06:51:04 PM
Quote from: GoLions on November 15, 2016, 06:50:10 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 15, 2016, 06:46:05 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 15, 2016, 06:40:12 PM
I've got the most salary cap space at this point so if anyone is feeling the squeeze and wants to offload their best player I suppose I could help you out.
In just under 6hrs you Simon White will be available, but I expect RD will have snapped him up before then
He'd look quite the fool if he hasn't!
It would be a costly mistake
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 15, 2016, 06:52:36 PM
$9,195,000
- $332,000 delisted (Goetz, Silvagni, Abe)
+ $700,000 draft picks
+ $500,000 rookie draft picks (if we're going with 5?)

$10,063,000

$1,337,000 cap space free
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on November 15, 2016, 06:52:44 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 15, 2016, 06:51:04 PM
Quote from: GoLions on November 15, 2016, 06:50:10 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 15, 2016, 06:46:05 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 15, 2016, 06:40:12 PM
I've got the most salary cap space at this point so if anyone is feeling the squeeze and wants to offload their best player I suppose I could help you out.
In just under 6hrs you Simon White will be available, but I expect RD will have snapped him up before then
He'd look quite the fool if he hasn't!
It would be a costly mistake
Could very well be the missing piece to the NY premiership puzzle
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on November 15, 2016, 06:54:26 PM
Quote from: GoLions on November 15, 2016, 06:52:44 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 15, 2016, 06:51:04 PM
Quote from: GoLions on November 15, 2016, 06:50:10 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 15, 2016, 06:46:05 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 15, 2016, 06:40:12 PM
I've got the most salary cap space at this point so if anyone is feeling the squeeze and wants to offload their best player I suppose I could help you out.
In just under 6hrs you Simon White will be available, but I expect RD will have snapped him up before then
He'd look quite the fool if he hasn't!
It would be a costly mistake
Could very well be the missing piece to the NY premiership puzzle
hahaha
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 15, 2016, 07:25:07 PM
4 rookies for now meow, but could well end up being 5 if players left over. And any future references of Abe, please refer to as Good Ol' Abe!

As for White, he isn't leaving NDT. As if they would let him go whilst in their premiership window
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 15, 2016, 07:33:37 PM
Just 5% of my list is from the original redraft (Lester, Dempster)

10% were traded in prior to season 1 (Gibbs, Sandi, Mitchell, C Smith)

20% were taken by myself in the 2014 draft (Steele, Lever, McLean, ANB, Langford, McKenzie, Wigg, Andrews (rookie - upgraded))

25% traded in after season 1 (Joey, McVeigh, Griff, Blakely, Wilson, WHE, Ellis, McKenna, Anderson)

22.5% traded in this period (Fiorini, Boyd, Bob, Masten, Waite, Higgins, Wells, Stewart, Vardy)

17.5% to be taken in the upcoming draft (McLuggage, McGrath, Bowes, Ainsworth, SPS, Brodie, Taranto)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Levi434 on November 15, 2016, 07:41:11 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 15, 2016, 07:33:37 PM
Just 5% of my list is from the original redraft (Lester, Dempster)

10% were traded in prior to season 1 (Gibbs, Sandi, Mitchell, C Smith)

20% were taken by myself in the 2014 draft (Steele, Lever, McLean, ANB, Langford, McKenzie, Wigg, Andrews (rookie - upgraded))

25% traded in after season 1 (Joey, McVeigh, Griff, Blakely, Wilson, WHE, Ellis, McKenna, Anderson)

22.5% traded in this period (Fiorini, Boyd, Bob, Masten, Waite, Higgins, Wells, Stewart, Vardy)

17.5% to be taken in the upcoming draft CENSORED

No naming unnamed players geez :-X
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 15, 2016, 07:44:46 PM
Pick 8 (one of those guns mentioned, or maybe WILL SETTERFIELD - THE NEXT BONT!!! is available if anyone wants to pay massive overs.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Levi434 on November 15, 2016, 07:51:15 PM
Anything on my roster available besides Cripps. Also have 19 and 29. Send me a message!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on November 15, 2016, 07:52:17 PM
Dylan Grimes for a pick or pick upgrade on 45!

This 5 year Berlin veteran is feelin the salary cap squeeze
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 15, 2016, 07:57:47 PM
Add in Perryman, Scrimshaw, English and Simpkin and pick 12 doesn't look too bad either. Could be yours.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 15, 2016, 08:00:27 PM
Not to mention all the remaining players available at #13. Maybe Florent, maybe Berry, maybe an early call on Mutch, or SPP. Could be yours.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Levi434 on November 15, 2016, 08:01:18 PM
Who should I get at pick 19?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 15, 2016, 08:03:01 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on November 15, 2016, 08:01:18 PM
Who should I get at pick 19?

There will only be duds availabe then. Trade it to me so I can waste it on another guy like Viojo-Rainbow at #24 a few years ago.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 15, 2016, 08:24:45 PM
13 and Blakely available for a pick in the top 6. Blakely alone is worth pick 6. None of those guys have done a thing at AFL level and Connor is surely at least equal to a guy like Brodie, but has 2 years development into him already.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Levi434 on November 15, 2016, 09:12:41 PM
Who has some Gold Coast spuds they want to trade me?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on November 15, 2016, 09:22:00 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 15, 2016, 08:24:45 PM
13 and Blakely available for a pick in the top 6. Blakely alone is worth pick 6. None of those guys have done a thing at AFL level and Connor is surely at least equal to a guy like Brodie, but has 2 years development into him already.
Wow I see how it is
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 15, 2016, 09:26:29 PM
Quote from: GoLions on November 15, 2016, 09:22:00 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 15, 2016, 08:24:45 PM
13 and Blakely available for a pick in the top 6. Blakely alone is worth pick 6. None of those guys have done a thing at AFL level and Connor is surely at least equal to a guy like Brodie, but has 2 years development into him already.
Wow I see how it is

Good. You've forced my hand by not giving me 7 when I asked politely. Now you're flowered.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Jroo on November 16, 2016, 11:23:02 AM
Looking for mid depth and a decent defender
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on November 16, 2016, 04:39:28 PM
3 teams left to vote (London, PNL, Toronto), but all trades auto-pass. Be sure to still vote though!

Thread updated

WXV Player Lists & Draft Order (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,108063.0.html)

Spreadsheet updated

WXV Trade Centre (http://jmp.sh/g3v7gq1)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ringo on November 16, 2016, 04:45:45 PM
Clarification required Purple. I currently have picks 6,43,61, 71 and 92. Currently using 6,43 and 61.

I plan on using 92 to upgrade a rookie. If I plan to use my PSD Pick 5 then I have to pass on 71 is this correct? Just want to know as I may wish to trade pick 71.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on November 16, 2016, 04:46:02 PM
Hawkins could be traded soon. A couple of coaches had shown interest a while back.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 16, 2016, 04:59:29 PM
Quote from: Ringo on November 16, 2016, 04:45:45 PM
Clarification required Purple. I currently have picks 6,43,61, 71 and 92. Currently using 6,43 and 61.

I plan on using 92 to upgrade a rookie. If I plan to use my PSD Pick 5 then I have to pass on 71 is this correct? Just want to know as I may wish to trade pick 71.

You don't need to use a pick to upgrade a rookie. You put the rookie on the senior list

You don't need to pass 71 either as you will be allocated a 6th and 7th round pick which you can pass instead

Pretty sure that's right
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on November 16, 2016, 05:14:08 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 16, 2016, 04:59:29 PM
Quote from: Ringo on November 16, 2016, 04:45:45 PM
Clarification required Purple. I currently have picks 6,43,61, 71 and 92. Currently using 6,43 and 61.

I plan on using 92 to upgrade a rookie. If I plan to use my PSD Pick 5 then I have to pass on 71 is this correct? Just want to know as I may wish to trade pick 71.

You don't need to use a pick to upgrade a rookie. You put the rookie on the senior list

You don't need to pass 71 either as you will be allocated a 6th and 7th round pick which you can pass instead

Pretty sure that's right
You need a pick to upgrade a rookie
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 16, 2016, 05:22:27 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 16, 2016, 05:14:08 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 16, 2016, 04:59:29 PM
Quote from: Ringo on November 16, 2016, 04:45:45 PM
Clarification required Purple. I currently have picks 6,43,61, 71 and 92. Currently using 6,43 and 61.

I plan on using 92 to upgrade a rookie. If I plan to use my PSD Pick 5 then I have to pass on 71 is this correct? Just want to know as I may wish to trade pick 71.

You don't need to use a pick to upgrade a rookie. You put the rookie on the senior list

You don't need to pass 71 either as you will be allocated a 6th and 7th round pick which you can pass instead

Pretty sure that's right
You need a pick to upgrade a rookie

Yeah but if he trades 71 he'll get an extra pick in round 6 if he's only got 39 players + picks.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 16, 2016, 05:30:10 PM
Yep what meow said

Yes you do need to "use" a pick to upgrade a rookie, but just use the 6th or 7th rounder that you will eventually be given. Don't need to allocate one of your current picks that has been allocated inside the first 5 rounds
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on November 16, 2016, 05:32:29 PM
Quote from: Ringo on November 16, 2016, 04:45:45 PM
Clarification required Purple. I currently have picks 6,43,61, 71 and 92. Currently using 6,43 and 61.

I plan on using 92 to upgrade a rookie. If I plan to use my PSD Pick 5 then I have to pass on 71 is this correct? Just want to know as I may wish to trade pick 71.

So this would mean you'll name 36 senior listed players in your list lodgement (35 + 1 promoted rookie), correct?

That means you'll only have 4 picks entering the draft. 6, 43, 61 & 71. To use a PSD pick, you'll have to pass on Pick 71 :)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on November 16, 2016, 05:34:08 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 16, 2016, 05:22:27 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 16, 2016, 05:14:08 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 16, 2016, 04:59:29 PM
Quote from: Ringo on November 16, 2016, 04:45:45 PM
Clarification required Purple. I currently have picks 6,43,61, 71 and 92. Currently using 6,43 and 61.

I plan on using 92 to upgrade a rookie. If I plan to use my PSD Pick 5 then I have to pass on 71 is this correct? Just want to know as I may wish to trade pick 71.

You don't need to use a pick to upgrade a rookie. You put the rookie on the senior list

You don't need to pass 71 either as you will be allocated a 6th and 7th round pick which you can pass instead

Pretty sure that's right
You need a pick to upgrade a rookie

Yeah but if he trades 71 he'll get an extra pick in round 6 if he's only got 39 players + picks.
Yep exactly
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ringo on November 16, 2016, 09:13:19 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 16, 2016, 05:32:29 PM
Quote from: Ringo on November 16, 2016, 04:45:45 PM
Clarification required Purple. I currently have picks 6,43,61, 71 and 92. Currently using 6,43 and 61.

I plan on using 92 to upgrade a rookie. If I plan to use my PSD Pick 5 then I have to pass on 71 is this correct? Just want to know as I may wish to trade pick 71.

So this would mean you'll name 36 senior listed players in your list lodgement (35 + 1 promoted rookie), correct?

That means you'll only have 4 picks entering the draft. 6, 43, 61 & 71. To use a PSD pick, you'll have to pass on Pick 71 :)
Yep Rookie is promoted with Pick 92.

So to use PSD5 I have to pass on pick 71.  So basically to put it simply either use PSD5 or Pick71 to complete the 40 Senior list. To use a scenario if I trade pick 71 for another PSD pick I will not be able to use the PSD picks as I will have no National Pick to pass as per rules.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 16, 2016, 10:12:57 PM
Quote from: Ringo on November 16, 2016, 09:13:19 PM
So to use PSD5 I have to pass on pick 71.  So basically to put it simply either use PSD5 or Pick71 to complete the 40 Senior list. To use a scenario if I trade pick 71 for another PSD pick I will not be able to use the PSD picks as I will have no National Pick to pass as per rules.

In that instance, trading 71 to another PSD wouldn't change anything would it? You wouldn't be able to use that PSD pick because you'll be using PSD5 for your last senior spot

You trade 71, but then you will be given a 6th round pick which you can pass so that you can use PSD5, but the later PSD pick received for 71 wouldn't be used anyway because you'd already filled your 40 with PSD5, so there's no point in trading 71 for a PSD

TL;DR, Use 71 or PSD5, pass the other
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 16, 2016, 10:20:10 PM
Just over 48 hours to go!  :o

Surely there's going to be some big last minute trades coming through  ???
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on November 17, 2016, 08:18:26 AM
Quote from: Ringo on November 16, 2016, 09:13:19 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 16, 2016, 05:32:29 PM
Quote from: Ringo on November 16, 2016, 04:45:45 PM
Clarification required Purple. I currently have picks 6,43,61, 71 and 92. Currently using 6,43 and 61.

I plan on using 92 to upgrade a rookie. If I plan to use my PSD Pick 5 then I have to pass on 71 is this correct? Just want to know as I may wish to trade pick 71.

So this would mean you'll name 36 senior listed players in your list lodgement (35 + 1 promoted rookie), correct?

That means you'll only have 4 picks entering the draft. 6, 43, 61 & 71. To use a PSD pick, you'll have to pass on Pick 71 :)
Yep Rookie is promoted with Pick 92.

So to use PSD5 I have to pass on pick 71.  So basically to put it simply either use PSD5 or Pick71 to complete the 40 Senior list. To use a scenario if I trade pick 71 for another PSD pick I will not be able to use the PSD picks as I will have no National Pick to pass as per rules.

RD is correct. Except this time your 4 picks you'd take in would be 6, 43, 61 and 92, and you'd pass on 92 to use your first PSD pick. But you can't use the other without passing on pick 61
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Adamant on November 17, 2016, 02:05:02 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 16, 2016, 10:20:10 PM
Just over 48 hours to go!  :o

Surely there's going to be some big last minute trades coming through  ???

Happy? :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 17, 2016, 02:47:36 PM
Quote from: Adamant on November 17, 2016, 02:05:02 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 16, 2016, 10:20:10 PM
Just over 48 hours to go!  :o

Surely there's going to be some big last minute trades coming through  ???

Happy? :P

He said big trade. Trading the best player in WXV history to a team without a forward line won't have any significant ramifications.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on November 17, 2016, 03:00:12 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 17, 2016, 02:47:36 PM
Quote from: Adamant on November 17, 2016, 02:05:02 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 16, 2016, 10:20:10 PM
Just over 48 hours to go!  :o

Surely there's going to be some big last minute trades coming through  ???

Happy? :P

He said big trade. Trading the best player in WXV history to a team without a forward line won't have any significant ramifications.

There you go, the biggest WXV club traded its  Icon
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on November 17, 2016, 03:34:02 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 09, 2016, 10:50:34 PM
Even Dublin doesn't have a team above average in every position.

umm Meow

BAC: A, A. A, A
MID: A, A, A, A
RUC: A
FOR: A, A, A, A
INT: A, A
CAPT: A
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: elephants on November 17, 2016, 03:39:02 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 17, 2016, 03:34:02 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 09, 2016, 10:50:34 PM
Even Dublin doesn't have a team above average in every position.

umm Meow

BAC: A, A. A, A
MID: A, A, A, A
RUC: A
FOR: A, A, A, A
INT: A, A
CAPT: A

ummm holz

NDT

BAC: A+, A+, A+, A+
MID: A+, A+, A+, A+
RUC: A+
FOR: A+, A+, A+, A+
INT: A+, A+
CAPT: A+

Just give us the next 10 premierships now and save time
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on November 17, 2016, 03:46:22 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 17, 2016, 03:39:02 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 17, 2016, 03:34:02 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 09, 2016, 10:50:34 PM
Even Dublin doesn't have a team above average in every position.

umm Meow

BAC: A, A. A, A
MID: A, A, A, A
RUC: A
FOR: A, A, A, A
INT: A, A
CAPT: A

ummm holz

NDT

BAC: A+, A+, A+, A+
MID: A+, A+, A+, A+
RUC: A+
FOR: A+, A+, A+, A+
INT: A+, A+
CAPT: A+

Just give us the next 10 premierships now and save time

your giving A+ to Travis Cloke.

im giving an A to Adam Treloar.

Its like im grading as if im teaching "Law" at Harvard Business School.

NDT is grading as if they are teaching "Accounting 101" at a Community College.

pretty apt depictions of our teams actually.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on November 17, 2016, 04:16:33 PM
Wow...

This would be the first time ever Pendles gets traded btw  :o
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on November 17, 2016, 04:19:21 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 17, 2016, 04:16:33 PM
Wow...

This would be the first time ever Pendles gets traded btw  :o

hes going back to his rightful home.

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: elephants on November 17, 2016, 05:29:04 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 17, 2016, 03:46:22 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 17, 2016, 03:39:02 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 17, 2016, 03:34:02 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 09, 2016, 10:50:34 PM
Even Dublin doesn't have a team above average in every position.

umm Meow

BAC: A, A. A, A
MID: A, A, A, A
RUC: A
FOR: A, A, A, A
INT: A, A
CAPT: A

ummm holz

NDT

BAC: A+, A+, A+, A+
MID: A+, A+, A+, A+
RUC: A+
FOR: A+, A+, A+, A+
INT: A+, A+
CAPT: A+

Just give us the next 10 premierships now and save time

your giving A+ to Travis Cloke.

im giving an A to Adam Treloar.

Its like im grading as if im teaching "Law" at Harvard Business School.

NDT is grading as if they are teaching "Accounting 101" at a Community College.

pretty apt depictions of our teams actually.

NDT > Dublin

Talk to us when you make a WXV grand final in 2016 m8
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on November 17, 2016, 05:33:39 PM
I have some salary to off load!

Come on chat and TAKE IT!

http://ffchat.wixsite.com/chat
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on November 17, 2016, 05:33:56 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 17, 2016, 05:29:04 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 17, 2016, 03:46:22 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 17, 2016, 03:39:02 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 17, 2016, 03:34:02 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 09, 2016, 10:50:34 PM
Even Dublin doesn't have a team above average in every position.

umm Meow

BAC: A, A. A, A
MID: A, A, A, A
RUC: A
FOR: A, A, A, A
INT: A, A
CAPT: A

ummm holz

NDT

BAC: A+, A+, A+, A+
MID: A+, A+, A+, A+
RUC: A+
FOR: A+, A+, A+, A+
INT: A+, A+
CAPT: A+

Just give us the next 10 premierships now and save time

your giving A+ to Travis Cloke.

im giving an A to Adam Treloar.

Its like im grading as if im teaching "Law" at Harvard Business School.

NDT is grading as if they are teaching "Accounting 101" at a Community College.

pretty apt depictions of our teams actually.

NDT > Dublin

Talk to us when you make a WXV grand final in 2016 m8

This is like Freo saying they are better team then Eagles the year they made the grandfinal.

As i have said before win something and come back to me.


Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: elephants on November 17, 2016, 05:36:06 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 17, 2016, 05:33:56 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 17, 2016, 05:29:04 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 17, 2016, 03:46:22 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 17, 2016, 03:39:02 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 17, 2016, 03:34:02 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 09, 2016, 10:50:34 PM
Even Dublin doesn't have a team above average in every position.

umm Meow

BAC: A, A. A, A
MID: A, A, A, A
RUC: A
FOR: A, A, A, A
INT: A, A
CAPT: A

ummm holz

NDT

BAC: A+, A+, A+, A+
MID: A+, A+, A+, A+
RUC: A+
FOR: A+, A+, A+, A+
INT: A+, A+
CAPT: A+

Just give us the next 10 premierships now and save time

your giving A+ to Travis Cloke.

im giving an A to Adam Treloar.

Its like im grading as if im teaching "Law" at Harvard Business School.

NDT is grading as if they are teaching "Accounting 101" at a Community College.

pretty apt depictions of our teams actually.

NDT > Dublin

Talk to us when you make a WXV grand final in 2016 m8

This is like Freo saying they are better team then Eagles the year they made the grandfinal.

As i have said before win something and come back to me.

What a ridiculous comparison, we all know you're only as good as your 2016 WXV finals run. AFL is irrelevant

NDT > Dublin

Tbh I didn't even know what a Dublin was until Rico said you were eliminated from finals.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on November 17, 2016, 05:38:23 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 17, 2016, 05:33:56 PM
As i have said before win something and come back to me.
How many Asian Premierships have Dublin won?

That's what i thought




Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on November 17, 2016, 05:39:11 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 17, 2016, 05:36:06 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 17, 2016, 05:33:56 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 17, 2016, 05:29:04 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 17, 2016, 03:46:22 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 17, 2016, 03:39:02 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 17, 2016, 03:34:02 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 09, 2016, 10:50:34 PM
Even Dublin doesn't have a team above average in every position.

umm Meow

BAC: A, A. A, A
MID: A, A, A, A
RUC: A
FOR: A, A, A, A
INT: A, A
CAPT: A

ummm holz

NDT

BAC: A+, A+, A+, A+
MID: A+, A+, A+, A+
RUC: A+
FOR: A+, A+, A+, A+
INT: A+, A+
CAPT: A+

Just give us the next 10 premierships now and save time

your giving A+ to Travis Cloke.

im giving an A to Adam Treloar.

Its like im grading as if im teaching "Law" at Harvard Business School.

NDT is grading as if they are teaching "Accounting 101" at a Community College.

pretty apt depictions of our teams actually.

NDT > Dublin

Talk to us when you make a WXV grand final in 2016 m8

This is like Freo saying they are better team then Eagles the year they made the grandfinal.

As i have said before win something and come back to me.

What a ridiculous comparison, we all know you're only as good as your 2016 WXV finals run. AFL is irrelevant

NDT > Dublin

Tbh I didn't even know what a Dublin was until Rico said you were eliminated from finals.
I thought it was some sort of Spanish gold coin
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on November 17, 2016, 05:58:48 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 17, 2016, 05:36:06 PM
What a ridiculous comparison, we all know you're only as good as your 2016 WXV finals run. AFL is irrelevant

NDT > Dublin

Tbh I didn't even know what a Dublin was until Rico said you were eliminated from finals.

Forget
The more points for the overall year,
The more wins if we played each other
The clearly superior Squad
The higher scores in 1/4 finals
The minor Premiership

Focus on  losing in a grand final :P

and in regards to Asian Premierships, does that even count everyone knows its the joke region of Worlds. That will set alot of people off.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on November 17, 2016, 06:01:53 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 17, 2016, 05:58:48 PM
and in regards to Asian Premierships, does that even count everyone knows its the joke region
Hes got you there haha
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Levi434 on November 17, 2016, 06:04:38 PM
Children please.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Koop on November 17, 2016, 06:25:47 PM
Quote from: iZander on November 17, 2016, 06:01:53 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 17, 2016, 05:58:48 PM
and in regards to Asian Premierships, does that even count everyone knows its the joke region
Hes got you there haha

:(
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: AaronKirk on November 17, 2016, 06:29:31 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 16, 2016, 10:20:10 PM
Just over 48 hours to go!  :o

Surely there's going to be some big last minute trades coming through  ???

And you said we were done a week or so ago.... Liar :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on November 17, 2016, 06:31:02 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on November 17, 2016, 06:29:31 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 16, 2016, 10:20:10 PM
Just over 48 hours to go!  :o

Surely there's going to be some big last minute trades coming through  ???

And you said we were done a week or so ago.... Liar :P
You believed him? :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on November 17, 2016, 06:31:19 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 17, 2016, 05:58:48 PM
and in regards to Asian Premierships, does that even count everyone knows its the joke
A joke like:
The more points for the overall year,
The more wins if we played each other
The clearly superior Squad
The higher scores in 1/4 finals
The minor Premiership

and not making the Grand Final
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: AaronKirk on November 17, 2016, 06:34:27 PM
Quote from: GoLions on November 17, 2016, 06:31:02 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on November 17, 2016, 06:29:31 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 16, 2016, 10:20:10 PM
Just over 48 hours to go!  :o

Surely there's going to be some big last minute trades coming through  ???

And you said we were done a week or so ago.... Liar :P
You believed him? :P
Of course not  ;) I just wish I had time to be more of a part of the negotiations but work is still too busy.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Levi434 on November 17, 2016, 07:28:56 PM
It's always nice when people give reasoning as to why they think the trade is good/bad or what could be added.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Nige on November 17, 2016, 07:30:28 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on November 18, 2016, 11:32:29 AM
Holz show us a before and after Dublin squad for this trade period
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Levi434 on November 18, 2016, 11:43:47 AM
Who has a 30-50 rookie pick for trade?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on November 18, 2016, 11:45:02 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 18, 2016, 11:32:29 AM
Holz show us a before and after Dublin squad for this trade period

I update my original page so just going off the top of my head.

Rance Birchall Weits Grundy - Omac Yarran Jetta Byrne William Frost Hansen
Selwood Treloar Sloane Murphy - Jetta
Goldy - Daw
Gunston Jroo Buddy Dmart - Kennedy Schoey Silvagni Crocker Dale
NDS Collins

to

Rance Tmac Birchall Yarran - Weits Omac Collins Vickers-Willis Durdin Nielson
Dmart Treloar Sloane Jones - Jack Trengove
Goldy - Preuss
Gunston Jroo Hoff Daw - Turner Schoey Silvagni Greenwood Menzel
Crouch Hill

so basically upgrade down back i reckon matched by a downgrade up forward. The ruck is the same but now i have all north rucks in Goldy Daw Preuss Durdin so slight improve.

But the midfield despite the loss of selwood is a slight increase with Dmart = Selwood and then Jones a upgrade on Murphy (hge upgrade considering he missed most of the year)

The big difference is that Utility Bench. The change is phenomenal NDS + Collins but givne murphy was injured it was basically Weits Collins and now its upgrade to Brad Crouch + Stephen Hill which is big enough but now Kieran Jack on the bench.

Very very happy with trade period this year.

However i gave up alot of talent with all my picks gone and then kennedy who was a top 5 pick. 
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on November 18, 2016, 11:54:26 AM
Dillos still open for trade!

Ed Curnow, Isaac Smith, Travis Boak all up for trade, hoping to downgrade them in age with a picks/sweeteners.

Defender wise, guys like Marcus Adams and Zach Tuohy could be traded also :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on November 18, 2016, 12:04:46 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 18, 2016, 11:45:02 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 18, 2016, 11:32:29 AM
Holz show us a before and after Dublin squad for this trade period

I update my original page so just going off the top of my head.

Rance Birchall Weits Grundy - Omac Yarran Jetta Byrne William Frost Hansen
Selwood Treloar Sloane Murphy - Jetta
Goldy - Daw
Gunston Jroo Buddy Dmart - Kennedy Schoey Silvagni Crocker Dale
NDS Collins

to

Rance Tmac Birchall Yarran - Weits Omac Collins Vickers-Willis Durdin Nielson
Dmart Treloar Sloane Jones - Jack Trengove
Goldy - Preuss
Gunston Jroo Hoff Daw - Turner Schoey Silvagni Greenwood Menzel
Crouch Hill

so basically upgrade down back i reckon matched by a downgrade up forward. The ruck is the same but now i have all north rucks in Goldy Daw Preuss Durdin so slight improve.

But the midfield despite the loss of selwood is a slight increase with Dmart = Selwood and then Jones a upgrade on Murphy (hge upgrade considering he missed most of the year)

The big difference is that Utility Bench. The change is phenomenal NDS + Collins but givne murphy was injured it was basically Weits Collins and now its upgrade to Brad Crouch + Stephen Hill which is big enough but now Kieran Jack on the bench.

Very very happy with trade period this year.

However i gave up alot of talent with all my picks gone and then kennedy who was a top 5 pick.
Right ok, but if it was the start of next year and Yarran and Roughead were healthy you'd include them

So changes are
Weits vs TMac
Murphy vs NJones
Jelwood vs Crouch
Franklin vs Hoff
Roughead vs Daw
Jetta vs SHill
annnd got KJack as depth

But that's if Yarran and Roughie are healthy next year

So many changes to a starting XV of an already super strong XV :o
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on November 18, 2016, 12:08:33 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 18, 2016, 12:04:46 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 18, 2016, 11:45:02 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 18, 2016, 11:32:29 AM
Holz show us a before and after Dublin squad for this trade period

I update my original page so just going off the top of my head.

Rance Birchall Weits Grundy - Omac Yarran Jetta Byrne William Frost Hansen
Selwood Treloar Sloane Murphy - Jetta
Goldy - Daw
Gunston Jroo Buddy Dmart - Kennedy Schoey Silvagni Crocker Dale
NDS Collins

to

Rance Tmac Birchall Yarran - Weits Omac Collins Vickers-Willis Durdin Nielson
Dmart Treloar Sloane Jones - Jack Trengove
Goldy - Preuss
Gunston Jroo Hoff Daw - Turner Schoey Silvagni Greenwood Menzel
Crouch Hill

so basically upgrade down back i reckon matched by a downgrade up forward. The ruck is the same but now i have all north rucks in Goldy Daw Preuss Durdin so slight improve.

But the midfield despite the loss of selwood is a slight increase with Dmart = Selwood and then Jones a upgrade on Murphy (hge upgrade considering he missed most of the year)

The big difference is that Utility Bench. The change is phenomenal NDS + Collins but givne murphy was injured it was basically Weits Collins and now its upgrade to Brad Crouch + Stephen Hill which is big enough but now Kieran Jack on the bench.

Very very happy with trade period this year.

However i gave up alot of talent with all my picks gone and then kennedy who was a top 5 pick.
Right ok, but if it was the start of next year and Yarran and Roughead were healthy you'd include them

So changes are
Weits vs TMac
Murphy vs NJones
Jelwood vs Crouch
Franklin vs Hoff
Roughead vs Daw
Jetta vs SHill
annnd got KJack as depth

But that's if Yarran and Roughie are healthy next year

So many changes to a starting XV of an already super strong XV :o

The other thins is the team got younger aswell.

thats part of it, like Selwood to Tmac Hill is about strengthening lines but i also traded 28 year old guy for a 24 and 25. 
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Levi434 on November 18, 2016, 01:47:35 PM
Looking to trade 1 of Zaharakis, Mitch Robinson or Danyle Pearce for a forward. 75ave or over.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on November 18, 2016, 01:49:33 PM
I liked the old Dublin better. I heard they had blackjack every Tuesday and Thursday. Now they just have Kieran Jack. Smh.

Also, let's get to 100+ trades boyzzz.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on November 18, 2016, 02:02:00 PM
Quote from: GoLions on November 18, 2016, 01:49:33 PM
IAlso, let's get to 100+ trades boyzzz.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 18, 2016, 02:05:39 PM
7 more to go!

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on November 18, 2016, 02:06:29 PM
Aaron Vandenberg or Hayden Ballantyne is tradeable, given my Menzel acquisition
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on November 18, 2016, 02:09:00 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 18, 2016, 02:06:29 PM
Aaron Vandenberg or Hayden Ballantyne is tradeable, given my Menzel acquisition
I swear i saw him traded to Dublin?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 18, 2016, 02:11:03 PM
Connor Blakely is available.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 18, 2016, 02:11:31 PM
LOL Yep I saw that too

Must have changed their minds

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 18, 2016, 02:13:13 PM
So we have to have our lists lodged by Nov 30

What dates are we doing the NAT, PSD and Rookie drafts? I know I read it somewhere before but can't find it
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on November 18, 2016, 02:16:38 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 18, 2016, 02:09:00 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 18, 2016, 02:06:29 PM
Aaron Vandenberg or Hayden Ballantyne is tradeable, given my Menzel acquisition
I swear i saw him traded to Dublin?

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 18, 2016, 02:11:31 PM
LOL Yep I saw that too

Must have changed their minds

(http://i.imgur.com/u1aOhzq.jpg)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on November 18, 2016, 02:57:42 PM
Quote from: GoLions on November 18, 2016, 02:16:38 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 18, 2016, 02:09:00 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 18, 2016, 02:06:29 PM
Aaron Vandenberg or Hayden Ballantyne is tradeable, given my Menzel acquisition
I swear i saw him traded to Dublin?

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 18, 2016, 02:11:31 PM
LOL Yep I saw that too

Must have changed their minds

(http://i.imgur.com/u1aOhzq.jpg)

Blame the cap.

Stoped me hoarding all the guns like Pederson
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Levi434 on November 18, 2016, 03:07:24 PM
Yeah this cap stopped me from keeping my main man Jarrad Grant
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: DazBurg on November 18, 2016, 03:12:35 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on November 18, 2016, 03:07:24 PM
Yeah this cap stopped me from keeping my main man Jarrad Grant

so that cap took his job?

(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/masonry/000/633/936/ff1.gif)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Levi434 on November 18, 2016, 03:14:46 PM
Why should I keep a gun like Jarrad Grant on my list for 192K when I can just put my personal Coleman Medal Favourite Josh Walker for 22K less?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on November 18, 2016, 03:23:15 PM
Holz couldn't fit Balla in his cap  :(

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 18, 2016, 02:13:13 PM
So we have to have our lists lodged by Nov 30

What dates are we doing the NAT, PSD and Rookie drafts? I know I read it somewhere before but can't find it

As soon as all WXV clubs have lodged their list, after Nov 30, the drafts will start.

Well, as soon as I process them at least, which should be 5 mins after the last lodgement :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on November 18, 2016, 03:23:58 PM
Welp, I got some cap to cut in the last 10 hours of trade period.

Will be on chat for the next bit if interested!

http://ffchat.wixsite.com/chat

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on November 18, 2016, 03:27:18 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 18, 2016, 02:02:00 PM
Quote from: GoLions on November 18, 2016, 01:49:33 PM
IAlso, let's get to 100+ trades boyzzz.

We need more random facts from meow to get the talks going
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on November 18, 2016, 03:27:49 PM
Anyone wanna finish with a massive trade to end the period?

I didn't lie before, I'm not lying now!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Adamant on November 18, 2016, 03:39:02 PM
Looking to package one of the following players with N32 for a 75+ forward. Age not a massive concern as long as they aren't ancient.

Lewis Taylor: 66 and 74 unsubbed in his first two seasons. It seems as though poor Lewy was a victim of Brisbane's showerness this season with a dismal 59 average. Under a new coach and a more permanent role on the wing will hopefully see him back to his Rising Star (and beyond) best.

Shane Kersten: New club, new opportunity for big Shaneo. Had some decent scores last year of 73, 78, 91, 95, 102 and 106 being in and out of the Geelong side. Expect him to post scores like that more regularly on the wide expanses of Domain Stadium.

Brendon Ah Chee: 64.6 average playing out of position on a HF flank. 128, 107, 88 and 93 in the last four games 2015 when played exclusively as an inside mid. Just needs an opportunity in there.

Sam Wright: 75.9 average last year before injury cut his season short this year. Undoubtedly in North's best 22.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on November 18, 2016, 03:39:39 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 18, 2016, 03:27:49 PM
Anyone wanna finish with a massive trade to end the period?

I didn't lie before, I'm not lying now!
Yeah, give us Heppel, that'd be big :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 18, 2016, 03:51:10 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 18, 2016, 03:23:15 PM
Holz couldn't fit Balla in his cap  :(

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 18, 2016, 02:13:13 PM
So we have to have our lists lodged by Nov 30

What dates are we doing the NAT, PSD and Rookie drafts? I know I read it somewhere before but can't find it

As soon as all WXV clubs have lodged their list, after Nov 30, the drafts will start.

Well, as soon as I process them at least, which should be 5 mins after the last lodgement :P

So why do we lodge lists before the drafts? Shouldn't it be after all drafts? That way we lodge our actual finalised team for 2017

And GL Ada, not many 75+ forwards readily available :(
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on November 18, 2016, 03:54:22 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 18, 2016, 03:51:10 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 18, 2016, 03:23:15 PM
Holz couldn't fit Balla in his cap  :(

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 18, 2016, 02:13:13 PM
So we have to have our lists lodged by Nov 30

What dates are we doing the NAT, PSD and Rookie drafts? I know I read it somewhere before but can't find it

As soon as all WXV clubs have lodged their list, after Nov 30, the drafts will start.

Well, as soon as I process them at least, which should be 5 mins after the last lodgement :P

So why do we lodge lists before the drafts? Shouldn't it be after all drafts? That way we lodge our actual finalised team for 2017

And GL Ada, not many 75+ forwards readily available :(

So we know how many picks to take in the international draft
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on November 18, 2016, 03:55:22 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 18, 2016, 03:51:10 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 18, 2016, 03:23:15 PM
Holz couldn't fit Balla in his cap  :(

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 18, 2016, 02:13:13 PM
So we have to have our lists lodged by Nov 30

What dates are we doing the NAT, PSD and Rookie drafts? I know I read it somewhere before but can't find it
And GL Ada, not many 75+ forwards readily available :(
Will take offers for any of Elliot, Edwards and Walker
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 18, 2016, 03:56:05 PM
Righto :)

Thanks
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 18, 2016, 03:58:42 PM
Quote from: iZander on November 18, 2016, 03:55:22 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 18, 2016, 03:51:10 PM
And GL Ada, not many 75+ forwards readily available :(
Will take offers for any of Elliot, Edwards and Walker

You've already cleaned out Toronto though lol

They probably don't have anything left that you'd accept :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Levi434 on November 18, 2016, 04:38:45 PM
A 75 forward aye? I got Premiership Hero Brendan WhiteXXXXXXXXXXX availible. But due to the nature of this such event. The law of supply and demand means he warrants a 90+ mid in return.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Adamant on November 18, 2016, 05:19:29 PM
Quote from: Adamant on November 18, 2016, 03:39:02 PM
Looking to package one of the following players with N32 for a 75+ forward. Age not a massive concern as long as they aren't ancient.

Lewis Taylor: 66 and 74 unsubbed in his first two seasons. It seems as though poor Lewy was a victim of Brisbane's showerness this season with a dismal 59 average. Under a new coach and a more permanent role on the wing will hopefully see him back to his Rising Star (and beyond) best.

Shane Kersten: New club, new opportunity for big Shaneo. Had some decent scores last year of 73, 78, 91, 95, 102 and 106 being in and out of the Geelong side. Expect him to post scores like that more regularly on the wide expanses of Domain Stadium.

Brendon Ah Chee: 64.6 average playing out of position on a HF flank. 128, 107, 88 and 93 in the last four games 2015 when played exclusively as an inside mid. Just needs an opportunity in there.

Sam Wright: 75.9 average last year before injury cut his season short this year. Undoubtedly in North's best 22.

Might also add Riley Bonner could be available in a deal like this too - I know a few were interested in him.

Also they don't necessarily have to be a 2016 75+ average forward if I like the player.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on November 18, 2016, 05:29:18 PM
7.5 hours to go!

Don't live in the land of inaction coaches, get about it!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 18, 2016, 05:33:38 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 18, 2016, 05:29:18 PM
7.5 hours to go!

Don't live in the land of inaction coaches, get about it!

Pacific, Tokyo and Beijing are working on a monster 3 way deal. Get involved lads!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on November 18, 2016, 05:38:11 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 18, 2016, 05:33:38 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 18, 2016, 05:29:18 PM
7.5 hours to go!

Don't live in the land of inaction coaches, get about it!

Pacific, Tokyo and Beijing are working on a monster 3 way deal. Get involved lads!
Are they actually or am I missing something.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on November 18, 2016, 05:39:09 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 18, 2016, 05:38:11 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 18, 2016, 05:33:38 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 18, 2016, 05:29:18 PM
7.5 hours to go!

Don't live in the land of inaction coaches, get about it!

Pacific, Tokyo and Beijing are working on a monster 3 way deal. Get involved lads!
Are they actually or am I missing something.
Nah it's legit
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: upthemaidens on November 18, 2016, 05:41:34 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 18, 2016, 05:33:38 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 18, 2016, 05:29:18 PM
7.5 hours to go!

Don't live in the land of inaction coaches, get about it!

Pacific, Tokyo and Beijing are working on a monster 3 way deal. Get involved lads!
Are we?  I'm always last to know....
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on November 18, 2016, 05:53:57 PM
Btw, I'll be strictly adhering to the 11.59:59 deadline AEDST (but will use FF clock... which seems about 5 mins off).

You can confirm trades after that time, but not post trades after that time.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Jay on November 18, 2016, 06:24:47 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 18, 2016, 05:38:11 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 18, 2016, 05:33:38 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 18, 2016, 05:29:18 PM
7.5 hours to go!

Don't live in the land of inaction coaches, get about it!

Pacific, Tokyo and Beijing are working on a monster 3 way deal. Get involved lads!
Are they actually or am I missing something.
It's true. Get in quick before Bont, Laird, Titch, Gaff and Barlow are all sold!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on November 18, 2016, 08:44:03 PM
It's all lonely in chat. Trade with me in the last 4 hours, get tense!

http://ffchat.wixsite.com/chat
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on November 18, 2016, 08:48:00 PM
Purps!

I'll be there in forty minutes to trade with you!

:D
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on November 18, 2016, 08:50:09 PM
Very good torp.

All talk and no trades makes Purple something something
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on November 18, 2016, 10:21:30 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 18, 2016, 08:50:09 PM
Very good torp.

All talk and no trades makes Purple something something
Go crazy and give me Fyfe?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Levi434 on November 18, 2016, 10:30:15 PM
If anyone has a late ripper 1 for 1 deal involving Zaha, Thommo, Pearce, THunt. Send us as a PM.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Levi434 on November 18, 2016, 10:38:40 PM
Will package Ramsay + THunt + 29 for a forward.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on November 18, 2016, 10:44:01 PM
Quote from: GoLions on November 18, 2016, 10:21:30 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 18, 2016, 08:50:09 PM
Very good torp.

All talk and no trades makes Purple something something
Go crazy and give me Fyfe?

Don't miiiiiind if I do!

:o :P :o :-X :P :o ::) :o
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 18, 2016, 10:52:49 PM
I won't be on from now until the deadline. Post a heap of trades involving my players and I'll confirm any that I like. No negotions necessary.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on November 19, 2016, 01:19:00 AM
You monsters. Not wanting to take Dylan Grimes. You've condemned him to the wilderness of the drafts!

Shame.

NB: Although Ada tried, but missed by 43 seconds  >:(
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Hellopplz on November 19, 2016, 02:07:13 AM
I wasn't even on for discussions :P. People missed out on a free pick and stuff if they actually had hit Daz up :P.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 19, 2016, 11:15:56 AM
I wish I knew Monfries was available for so little

Nice recovery from Ada to land him and Douglas for a bag of chips
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on November 19, 2016, 11:26:34 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 19, 2016, 11:15:56 AM
I wish I knew Monfries was available for so little

Nice recovery from Ada to land him and Douglas for a bag of chips
Tbh I'd want something in return for taking Monfries, and would probably prefer Bonner over Douglas :p
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on November 19, 2016, 11:28:05 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 19, 2016, 11:15:56 AM
I wish I knew Monfries was available for so little

Nice recovery from Ada to land him and Douglas for a bag of chips
Are you joking?

I've been trying to offload Monfries for months.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 19, 2016, 11:34:44 AM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 19, 2016, 11:28:05 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 19, 2016, 11:15:56 AM
I wish I knew Monfries was available for so little

Nice recovery from Ada to land him and Douglas for a bag of chips
Are you joking?

I've been trying to offload Monfries for months.

Didn't mention him once in all our conversations. If an Astbury type is all it took I would have grabbed him for cover

And yeah I don't mind Bonner tbh but Douglas is decent
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on November 19, 2016, 11:38:15 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 19, 2016, 11:34:44 AM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 19, 2016, 11:28:05 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 19, 2016, 11:15:56 AM
I wish I knew Monfries was available for so little

Nice recovery from Ada to land him and Douglas for a bag of chips
Are you joking?

I've been trying to offload Monfries for months.

Didn't mention him once in all our conversations. If an Astbury type is all it took I would have grabbed him for cover

And yeah I don't mind Bonner tbh but Douglas is decent
Astbury has a 3 year contract,  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on November 19, 2016, 11:41:11 AM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 19, 2016, 11:38:15 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 19, 2016, 11:34:44 AM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 19, 2016, 11:28:05 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 19, 2016, 11:15:56 AM
I wish I knew Monfries was available for so little

Nice recovery from Ada to land him and Douglas for a bag of chips
Are you joking?

I've been trying to offload Monfries for months.

Didn't mention him once in all our conversations. If an Astbury type is all it took I would have grabbed him for cover

And yeah I don't mind Bonner tbh but Douglas is decent
Astbury has a 3 year contract,  ;)
My condolences
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on November 19, 2016, 11:42:11 AM
99 trades  :(

43 seconds away from #100 haha
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on November 19, 2016, 11:43:41 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 19, 2016, 11:42:11 AM
99 trades  :(

43 seconds away from #100 haha
Would've had over 100 if it wasn't for the cap! #scrapthecap
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: DazBurg on November 19, 2016, 11:59:23 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 19, 2016, 11:42:11 AM
99 trades  :(

43 seconds away from #100 haha
should of ended it tonight so people had all day to trade would of easily got the 100 ;)

oh well happens every year goes quietish then doesn't matter when you end it always  a mad rush at the end...haha
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Levi434 on November 19, 2016, 12:29:42 PM
I'm still 1.8 mil over the cap. Willing to do move some starters for 100k players. Chuck us a PM if interested.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 19, 2016, 12:34:49 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on November 19, 2016, 12:29:42 PM
I'm still 1.8 mil over the cap. Willing to do move some starters for 100k players. Chuck us a PM if interested.

I think you might have to delist a bunch of blokes now to get under?

1.8 is huge lol

Just send GAJ and Sauce to the draft ;)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: DazBurg on November 19, 2016, 03:10:06 PM
soooooooooooooooooooooooo boooooooooooooooooooored
why does trade period need to end

time to get started on period 2 :P :P :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 19, 2016, 05:46:42 PM
This time next year Bryce will be 28 and coming off a 110 season. Get your offers in now.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on November 21, 2016, 04:23:18 PM
3 teams left to vote (Pacific, PNL and Seoul).

The following trades auto-pass

Trade 89
Dublin trade: Joel Selwood, Pick 50, Pick 86 + Pick 90
New York trade: Tom McDonald, Daniel Menzel, Jack Trengove + Pick 44

Trade 90
Dublin trade: Daniel Menzel, Pick 33 + Pick 44
Berlin trade: Stephen Hill + Pick 49

Trade 91
Cape Town trade: Billy Smedts + PSD Pick 24
Cape Town receive: Lachlan Hansen

Dublin trade: Lachlan Hansen
Dublin receive: Pick 47 + PSD Pick 24

PNL trade: Pick 47
PNL receive: Billie Smedts

Trade 92
New York trade: Shaun Grigg
Rio de Janeiro trade: Robbie Tarrant

Trade 93
Dublin trade: Rookie Pick 34 + PSD Pick 24 
Rio de Janeiro trade: PSD Pick 18

Trade 94
Toronto trade: Rookie Pick 38
Rio de Janeiro trade: Cameron Pedersen + Rookie Pick 72

Trade 95
Berlin trade: Rookie Pick 14
Moscow trade: PSD Pick 4

Trade 97
Toronto trade: David Astbury
Moscow trade: Angus Monfries + Pick 78

Trade 98
Berlin trade: Kyle Cheney
Pacific trade: Joel Hamling + Rookie Pick 30

Trade 99
Berlin trade: Pick 44 + Pick 45
Christchurch trade: Pick 40 + Pick 68
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on November 21, 2016, 04:32:12 PM
And another vote in, meaning that this trade now auto-passes

Trade 96
Toronto trade: Riley Bonner + PSD Pick 20
Buenos Aires trade: Richard Douglas + Pick 67
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 21, 2016, 04:37:49 PM
So barring the Pendles trade, all trades auto passed - nice work

Nice that all of our trades this year passed without a hiccup

Joel is officially on board!  8)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on November 21, 2016, 04:40:55 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 21, 2016, 04:37:49 PM
Joel is officially on board!  8)
A huge get mate, well done
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 21, 2016, 04:51:46 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 21, 2016, 04:40:55 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 21, 2016, 04:37:49 PM
Joel is officially on board!  8)
A huge get mate, well done

Thanks man

I know it's Jelly and we're stoked, but a part of me still misses TMac. In terms of SC and overall WXV value I just rate him so much and it was sad to see him go  :'(

Maybe he will find his way back to NY in the future  :-X
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: AaronKirk on November 21, 2016, 10:56:58 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 21, 2016, 04:51:46 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 21, 2016, 04:40:55 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 21, 2016, 04:37:49 PM
Joel is officially on board!  8)
A huge get mate, well done

Thanks man

I know it's Jelly and we're stoked, but a part of me still misses TMac. In terms of SC and overall WXV value I just rate him so much and it was sad to see him go  :'(

Maybe he will find his way back to NY in the future  :-X

Massive get for us. RD has done an unbelievable job during this period. 

0 negged NY trades in this period if I am correct.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 21, 2016, 11:09:01 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on November 21, 2016, 10:56:58 PM
0 negged NY trades in this period if I am correct.

Only 3* negged trades from 99 this entire period

The system is working well it seems, and if it ain't broke...
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Jukes on November 21, 2016, 11:11:09 PM
Good to see coaches are being less extremely strategic are more realistic/sensible about their neg decisions
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on November 22, 2016, 11:16:47 AM
All votes in!

With only Trade 88 attracting 3 votes, all trades auto-pass :)

Great trade period all
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on November 22, 2016, 11:34:19 AM
Thread updated

WXV Player Lists & Draft Order (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,108063.0.html)

Spreadsheet updated

WXV Trade Centre (http://jmp.sh/g3v7gq1)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on November 22, 2016, 11:38:45 AM
For those interested, below is the amount of times (anonymously) each team negged a trade (in the case of Cape Town, I've included both My Chumps and GL in the same figure).

(PM me if you are interested in how many/what trades you negged)
10
10
8
7
7
7
7
6
6
3
3
3
2
2
2
2
1

Which compared to last year...

34
18
17
16
13
10
8
8
8
8
5
5
5
5
4
3
2

Either suggests a change in thinking by the coaches, or the comp just got better at trading  :o
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on November 22, 2016, 11:42:02 AM
The bottom 3 "neggers" all voted on 1 particular trade too
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on November 22, 2016, 11:42:55 AM
Can I ask how many Cape Town negged? Cause I already know how many I did :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 22, 2016, 11:55:51 AM
Can't remember exactly because there was nearly 100 trades, but I'd take a guess that we are one of the teams who negged 2 or 3
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 22, 2016, 12:23:01 PM
I negged the Wilbur trade. Should have done the same for the Garlett one since Cairo absolutely slayed me.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on November 22, 2016, 12:33:25 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 22, 2016, 12:23:01 PM
I negged the Wilbur trade. Should have done the same for the Garlett one since Cairo absolutely slayed me.

We are you doing soo many bad trades?

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 22, 2016, 12:36:47 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 22, 2016, 12:33:25 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 22, 2016, 12:23:01 PM
I negged the Wilbur trade. Should have done the same for the Garlett one since Cairo absolutely slayed me.

We are you doing soo many bad trades?

I've got Tom Boyd so the rest doesn't matter. 10 flags in a row coming up.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on November 22, 2016, 12:41:36 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 22, 2016, 12:36:47 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 22, 2016, 12:33:25 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 22, 2016, 12:23:01 PM
I negged the Wilbur trade. Should have done the same for the Garlett one since Cairo absolutely slayed me.

We are you doing soo many bad trades?

I've got Tom Boyd so the rest doesn't matter. 10 flags in a row coming up.
And also Bryce Gibbs, the missing piece to the premiership puzzle
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Torpedo10 on November 22, 2016, 12:43:30 PM
Quote from: GoLions on November 22, 2016, 12:41:36 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 22, 2016, 12:36:47 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 22, 2016, 12:33:25 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 22, 2016, 12:23:01 PM
I negged the Wilbur trade. Should have done the same for the Garlett one since Cairo absolutely slayed me.

We are you doing soo many bad trades?

I've got Tom Boyd so the rest doesn't matter. 10 flags in a row coming up.
Cape Town's premiership puzzle?  :o
And also Bryce Gibbs, the missing piece to the premiership puzzle
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on November 22, 2016, 12:46:48 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 22, 2016, 12:43:30 PM
Quote from: GoLions on November 22, 2016, 12:41:36 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 22, 2016, 12:36:47 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 22, 2016, 12:33:25 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 22, 2016, 12:23:01 PM
I negged the Wilbur trade. Should have done the same for the Garlett one since Cairo absolutely slayed me.

We are you doing soo many bad trades?

I've got Tom Boyd so the rest doesn't matter. 10 flags in a row coming up.
And also Bryce Gibbs, the missing piece to the premiership puzzle
Cape Town's premiership puzzle?  :o
Rumour has it that he was almost a Cobra the night before the trade period ended :o
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: elephants on November 22, 2016, 12:50:19 PM
34 negs seems excessive as flower hahaha
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on November 22, 2016, 07:28:48 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 22, 2016, 12:50:19 PM
34 negs seems excessive as flower hahaha
Holz trying to stop the rise of NDT I presume
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 22, 2016, 07:45:34 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 22, 2016, 12:50:19 PM
34 negs seems excessive as flower hahaha

It made me genuinely lol last year when Purps posted those numbers, and seeing them again now made me genuinely lol again!

Negging 34 of 106 trades! ROFL!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on November 22, 2016, 07:54:18 PM
 Compo
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on November 22, 2016, 08:04:44 PM
Quote from: GoLions on November 22, 2016, 07:28:48 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 22, 2016, 12:50:19 PM
34 negs seems excessive as flower hahaha
Holz trying to stop the rise of NDT I presume
34 was last year and it was to stop the rise of dublin.

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on December 02, 2016, 05:40:27 PM
Think it's fair to say we were pretty optimistic Mundy would get def and Picken fwd, but it's looking like neither will

We're now super stacked in the mids so if you have a def or fwd and want a mid hit me up for the upcoming dpp trade period
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on December 02, 2016, 05:43:09 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 02, 2016, 05:40:27 PM
Think it's fair to say we were pretty optimistic Mundy would get def and Picken fwd, but it's looking like neither will

We're now super stacked in the mids so if you have a def or fwd and want a mid hit me up for the upcoming dpp trade period

you need defenders.

Tmac for Joel Selwood?

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on December 02, 2016, 05:46:32 PM
Hahaha, that actually made me laugh :)

Get back and throw in Menzel and I'll consider :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ricochet on December 02, 2016, 06:11:47 PM
Have defenders.... Houli, Hartlett, Howe, Lloyd (Vlastuin, JMart, Tucker, PDavis, Kraks)

Need good fwds

Or upgrade on mids

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on December 02, 2016, 06:15:32 PM
Touk <3
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on December 05, 2016, 02:35:01 AM
Traded Koby for Higgo because I wanted a forward to replace Joey. Stevens has forward DPP next year ::)

Compo
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on December 05, 2016, 08:22:14 PM
For those interested, I've updated my spreadsheet with all the 2017 player positions.

I've also added a heap of other sheets to help me throughout the drafts, which are of no use to you, but I can't be stuffed getting rid of them :P

WXV Trade Centre (http://jmp.sh/g3v7gq1)




Also meow...

Did the Western Bulldogs draft a guy called Tristan Tweedie?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on December 05, 2016, 08:39:44 PM
Oh... I only have 8 mids, on my entire list. Hmm. About 4 players I thought be DPP just turned out to be a pure defender or forward  :-X

Needs mids. Has forwards. Halp.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: JBs-Hawks on December 05, 2016, 08:41:38 PM
Caleb the Forward  8)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on December 05, 2016, 08:42:11 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 05, 2016, 08:41:38 PM
Caleb the Forward  8)
Soooooo good for British! Can't believe he's a pure forward though :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: DazBurg on December 05, 2016, 08:42:22 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on December 05, 2016, 08:22:14 PM
For those interested, I've updated my spreadsheet with all the 2017 player positions.

I've also added a heap of other sheets to help me throughout the drafts, which are of no use to you, but I can't be stuffed getting rid of them :P

WXV Trade Centre (http://jmp.sh/g3v7gq1)




Also meow...

Did the Western Bulldogs draft a guy called Tristan Tweedie?
awesome work purps love your spreadsheet it is my WXV bible ;)

just allowed me to update the PNL team thread with an updated team list quite painlessly :D
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: JBs-Hawks on December 05, 2016, 08:43:59 PM
Quote from: GoLions on December 05, 2016, 08:42:11 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 05, 2016, 08:41:38 PM
Caleb the Forward  8)
Soooooo good for British! Can't believe he's a pure forward though :P

Isaac Smith/Brad Hill/Caleb Daniel

Apparantly the wings are now part of the forward line.

Gaff must be stiff!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on December 05, 2016, 08:47:22 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 05, 2016, 08:43:59 PM
Quote from: GoLions on December 05, 2016, 08:42:11 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 05, 2016, 08:41:38 PM
Caleb the Forward  8)
Soooooo good for British! Can't believe he's a pure forward though :P

Isaac Smith/Brad Hill/Caleb Daniel

Apparantly the wings are now part of the forward line.

Gaff must be stiff!
Haha yeah ;D
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on December 05, 2016, 08:47:43 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 05, 2016, 08:43:59 PM
Quote from: GoLions on December 05, 2016, 08:42:11 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 05, 2016, 08:41:38 PM
Caleb the Forward  8)
Soooooo good for British! Can't believe he's a pure forward though :P

Isaac Smith/Brad Hill/Caleb Daniel

Apparantly the wings are now part of the forward line.

Gaff must be stiff!

If anything Gaffs stiff to not get defender ;)

Daniels being a pure forward is stupid, mid/fwd and it would be atleast understandable
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on December 05, 2016, 08:49:19 PM
Quote from: iZander on December 05, 2016, 08:47:43 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 05, 2016, 08:43:59 PM
Quote from: GoLions on December 05, 2016, 08:42:11 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 05, 2016, 08:41:38 PM
Caleb the Forward  8)
Soooooo good for British! Can't believe he's a pure forward though :P

Isaac Smith/Brad Hill/Caleb Daniel

Apparantly the wings are now part of the forward line.

Gaff must be stiff!

If anything Gaffs stiff to not get defender ;)

Daniels being a pure forward is stupid, mid/fwd and it would be atleast understandable
*Daniel, get outta here m8
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on December 05, 2016, 08:59:36 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on December 05, 2016, 08:42:22 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on December 05, 2016, 08:22:14 PM
For those interested, I've updated my spreadsheet with all the 2017 player positions.

I've also added a heap of other sheets to help me throughout the drafts, which are of no use to you, but I can't be stuffed getting rid of them :P

WXV Trade Centre (http://jmp.sh/g3v7gq1)




Also meow...

Did the Western Bulldogs draft a guy called Tristan Tweedie?
awesome work purps love your spreadsheet it is my WXV bible ;)

just allowed me to update the PNL team thread with an updated team list quite painlessly :D

Haha, cheers Daz! I aim to please  8)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on December 05, 2016, 09:26:23 PM
Quote from: GoLions on December 05, 2016, 08:49:19 PM
Quote from: iZander on December 05, 2016, 08:47:43 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 05, 2016, 08:43:59 PM
Quote from: GoLions on December 05, 2016, 08:42:11 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 05, 2016, 08:41:38 PM
Caleb the Forward  8)
Soooooo good for British! Can't believe he's a pure forward though :P

Isaac Smith/Brad Hill/Caleb Daniel

Apparantly the wings are now part of the forward line.

Gaff must be stiff!

If anything Gaffs stiff to not get defender ;)

Daniels being a pure forward is stupid, mid/fwd and it would be atleast understandable
*Daniel, get outta here m8
hahaha, not you too... ;)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ringo on December 05, 2016, 10:03:02 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on December 05, 2016, 08:39:44 PM
Oh... I only have 8 mids, on my entire list. Hmm. About 4 players I thought be DPP just turned out to be a pure defender or forward  :-X

Needs mids. Has forwards. Halp.
Join the club so if anyone needs forwards hit me up defender or mid/  After position changes and dpp I have 20 forwards, (5 with mid DPP though),
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on December 05, 2016, 11:03:02 PM
All you teams needing mids and having forwards to trade, hit me up!

Jelwood, Mundy, Lewis, Duncan, Scully, Tyson, Arma, Picken

We can't even start two!  :'(

*Jelwood and Tyson aren't going anywhere ;)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on December 05, 2016, 11:04:12 PM
Quote from: GoLions on December 02, 2016, 06:15:32 PM
Touk <3
Blacres <3
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on December 05, 2016, 11:36:12 PM
With the new position changes for 2017 we have only 2 players on our entire list that have DPP, and both are rookies from this years draft lol

Darcy Cameron with RUC/FWD and Brennan Cox with FWD/DEF

That's it!  :-X
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Jukes on December 05, 2016, 11:48:08 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 05, 2016, 11:36:12 PM
With the new position changes for 2017 we have only 2 players on our entire list that have DPP, and both are rookies from this years draft lol

Darcy Cameron with RUC/FWD and Brennan Cox with FWD/DEF

That's it!  :-X

Brb sending that in to Ripley's Believe It Or Not
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on December 05, 2016, 11:52:17 PM
Quote from: Jukes on December 05, 2016, 11:48:08 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 05, 2016, 11:36:12 PM
With the new position changes for 2017 we have only 2 players on our entire list that have DPP, and both are rookies from this years draft lol

Darcy Cameron with RUC/FWD and Brennan Cox with FWD/DEF

That's it!  :-X

Brb sending that in to Ripley's Believe It Or Not
Hahahahahaha ;D
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Jay on December 06, 2016, 01:24:39 AM
Quote from: GoLions on December 05, 2016, 11:52:17 PM
Quote from: Jukes on December 05, 2016, 11:48:08 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 05, 2016, 11:36:12 PM
With the new position changes for 2017 we have only 2 players on our entire list that have DPP, and both are rookies from this years draft lol

Darcy Cameron with RUC/FWD and Brennan Cox with FWD/DEF

That's it!  :-X

Brb sending that in to Ripley's Believe It Or Not
Hahahahahaha ;D
Lmao :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on December 06, 2016, 10:22:40 AM
Haha :P

It was more so to highlight the fact that all our existing dpp players like Tippett, Conca, Sexton etc all lost dpp :(
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Ringo on December 06, 2016, 10:57:21 AM
How Tippett can be a ruck only really surprises me.  He is a true Ruck Forward.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on December 06, 2016, 06:37:26 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on December 05, 2016, 08:39:44 PM
Oh... I only have 8 mids, on my entire list. Hmm. About 4 players I thought be DPP just turned out to be a pure defender or forward  :-X

Needs mids. Has forwards. Halp.

Following on this, I received interest on Roughead from a couple coaches, and a bit more after todays fantastic news for Roughie and the Hawthorn footy club :D

Received a couple of tempting offers, so letting people know Roughie is available for midfielder.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: fanTCfool on December 06, 2016, 06:39:43 PM
Tristan Tweedie has officially signed with the Doggies as a Category B Rookie
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Purple 77 on December 06, 2016, 07:17:19 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on December 06, 2016, 06:39:43 PM
Tristan Tweedie has officially signed with the Doggies as a Category B Rookie

Thanks for that mate :) that was really buggin me haha
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Vinny on December 07, 2016, 10:12:01 AM
Isaac Smith is now a forward. Hit us up if you're keen!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on December 07, 2016, 02:00:10 PM
Quote from: Vinny on December 07, 2016, 10:12:01 AM
Isaac Smith is now a forward. Hit us up if you're keen!

Should somehow try to package him with Tommy Sheridan.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on December 07, 2016, 08:07:55 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 05, 2016, 11:03:02 PM
All you teams needing mids and having forwards to trade, hit me up!

Jelwood, Mundy, Lewis, Duncan, Scully, Tyson, Arma, Picken

We can't even start two!  :'(

*Jelwood and Tyson aren't going anywhere ;)
Could be keen for a mid or defender now, with Touk and Blacres getting fwd (well, Touk keeping) and Carlisle I wasn't sure would keep fwd or not (but he has). Will wait until after the rookie though to get into serious talks.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on December 14, 2016, 03:01:52 PM
I don't have any Hawks or Cats on my list. Wouldn't mind changing that so I've got someone to watch when their matches are not the most interesting affairs.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on December 14, 2016, 03:35:55 PM
Quote from: meow meow on December 14, 2016, 03:01:52 PM
I don't have any Hawks or Cats on my list. Wouldn't mind changing that so I've got someone to watch when their matches are not the most interesting affairs.

Can send Fitzpatrick your way

As for us, we're still looking for a starting forward and have a starting mid to offer

Hit me up now of forever hold your peace, as we might be locking something in soon
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on December 14, 2016, 03:49:09 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 14, 2016, 03:35:55 PM
Quote from: meow meow on December 14, 2016, 03:01:52 PM
I don't have any Hawks or Cats on my list. Wouldn't mind changing that so I've got someone to watch when their matches are not the most interesting affairs.

Can send Fitzpatrick your way

As for us, we're still looking for a starting forward and have a starting mid to offer

Hit me up now of forever hold your peace, as we might be locking something in soon

Doesnt really help him having a hawk player who wont play in the AFL, kinda defeats the purpose unless he wants to watch the VFL.

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on December 14, 2016, 04:01:41 PM
What's a starting forward? What age/average are you looking for?


Boyd/Roughy/English
Sandi/Mummy 2.0

Vardy well and truly surplus to my needs. Would expect 75ish though so I won't give him away for next to nothing. Super available though!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Adamant on December 14, 2016, 04:19:29 PM
Looking for mids and defenders, got forwards to spare.

Fwd: J Macrae (WB), M Wallis (WB), R Douglas (Adel), A Brayshaw (Melb), J De Goey (Coll), J Hopper (GWS), N Hrovat (NM), L Taylor (Bris), S Kersten (Freo), A Monfries (Port), B Ah Chee (Port), C Pedersen (Melb), T Lamb (WC), H McKay (Carl), L Hulett (Melb), M Allen (WC), C Polson (Carl)

Players crossed out won't be moving. Anyone else I am open to offers.

For Wallis I'd be looking for a 90ish mid of a similar age. For Douglas I'd be looking for an 85-90 mid of a similar age.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on December 14, 2016, 04:19:43 PM
Hawkins
Crameri
Kent
Griffiths
Papley
Carlisle

Probs looking to trade 1-2 of these guys. A mid and a defender would be ideal. If trading Carlisle, would be expecting a defender who averages a bit more, due to his D/F DPP.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on December 14, 2016, 05:10:58 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 14, 2016, 03:49:09 PM
Doesnt really help him having a hawk player who wont play in the AFL, kinda defeats the purpose unless he wants to watch the VFL.

There was an implied :P when I said that

Quote from: meow meow on December 14, 2016, 04:01:41 PM
What's a starting forward? What age/average are you looking for?


Boyd/Roughy/English
Sandi/Mummy 2.0

Vardy well and truly surplus to my needs. Would expect 75ish though so I won't give him away for next to nothing. Super available though!

What's with all the rucks? Boyd might be a little risky for us atm

Vardy I wouldn't mind, but can he stay on the park?

Just after a genuine starter at this age - F2-4 type

Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on December 14, 2016, 06:33:01 PM
My ruck situation wasn't aimed at you RD, was seperate to what I was asking about your forward requirements.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on December 14, 2016, 06:47:43 PM
Ah yes, my bad - didn't see the break line initially :)
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on December 14, 2016, 10:44:35 PM
The cousin of SPS, Cedric Cox will go down as the steal of the draft and as such I don't really need Nathan Wilson anymore.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Holz on December 14, 2016, 11:55:57 PM
Quote from: meow meow on December 14, 2016, 10:44:35 PM
The cousin of SPS, Cedric Cox will go down as the steal of the draft and as such I don't really need Nathan Wilson anymore.

I'll translate for others.

Smoke screen, waffle, I don't think Wilson is best 22 anymore,  give me overs for him as I have talked him up for months to make it seem like he is decent
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on December 15, 2016, 12:39:29 AM
Of course he is best 22. Who is going to take his spot, Andrew McGrath? GWS rebounding defender pecking order is Shaw, Williams, Wilson, Cumming, Nobody.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: elephants on December 15, 2016, 01:15:06 AM
Wilson defo best 22 imo
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Jukes on December 15, 2016, 02:48:17 AM
Is this the same Wilson who averaged 66 in 2016?

Best 22 shouldn't matter when he scores like a potato
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on December 15, 2016, 08:17:24 AM
I like Wilson, and he is in their 22 but being behind Shaw and Williams I can't see him going much more higher than 70 but definitely has the scope to be prem in a few years once heater is out. Good long term option and can cover in the interim

The tension between Holz and meow is real! :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on December 15, 2016, 02:47:29 PM
Quote from: Jukes on December 15, 2016, 02:48:17 AM
Is this the same Wilson who averaged 66 in 2016?

Best 22 shouldn't matter when he scores like a potato

Straight swap for Joe Daniher?
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: RaisyDaisy on December 15, 2016, 02:48:33 PM
Quote from: meow meow on December 15, 2016, 02:47:29 PM
Quote from: Jukes on December 15, 2016, 02:48:17 AM
Is this the same Wilson who averaged 66 in 2016?

Best 22 shouldn't matter when he scores like a potato

Straight swap for Joe Daniher?

Snap!
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on December 15, 2016, 02:56:00 PM
Wilson averaged 74.2 in the first 13 weeks. Injured himself in 14, missed 3 weeks and struggled to play through the injury to finish the season. When fit he's a 75ish average defender, who still has some scope for improvement especially when Heef is no longer around. A simple glance at his season average doesn't paint the whole picture.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on December 15, 2016, 03:02:46 PM
9th in the league for rebound 50's even with Shaw in the team. Wonder what happens when Shaw isn't there.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: GoLions on December 15, 2016, 03:27:27 PM
Quote from: meow meow on December 15, 2016, 03:02:46 PM
9th in the league for rebound 50's even with Shaw in the team. Wonder what happens when Shaw isn't there.
He'll be 8th! ;D
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on December 15, 2016, 03:34:51 PM
Quote from: meow meow on December 15, 2016, 03:02:46 PM
9th in the league for rebound 50's even with Shaw in the team. Wonder what happens when Shaw isn't there.
They'll have the next Lindsay Gilbee to take over :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Adamant on December 15, 2016, 03:42:35 PM
Have had a bit of interest in Richard Douglas and he could be on the move soon. He's going to do a Matty Boyd so get in now if you want him.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/teams/adelaide/midfielder-richard-douglass-move-to-defence-signals-a-changing-of-the-guard-at-adelaide/news-story/20c26b35a93ff757326d5ba90b37c7ae
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: elephants on December 15, 2016, 04:46:21 PM
Haha Meow just keep him, there's clearly a reason you're trying so hard to move him
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: Jroo on December 15, 2016, 09:34:48 PM
Looking for a starting defender

And no not Nathan Wilson :P
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: meow meow on December 15, 2016, 10:53:08 PM
Could give you McVeigh and play Wilson myself since his ascension to premo status is a mere formality.
Title: Re: WXV Official Trade Confabulation
Post by: iZander on December 23, 2016, 11:17:58 AM
Have got forwards or defenders, looking for a mid and players on the younger side

Hit vin and i up or if u want message to get on chat if thats easier :P