AXVs: Official Discussion Thread

[Football Factory]

I just copy and paste  :-X .. and change it if there's an injury. I'm not fussed either way

[Rusty00]

I probably prefer the format that all other comps use, but not too fussed if we keep the current format.

[Rids]

I just had a quick look at it was 8 vs 8 on the naming of teams structure.

Happy to leave it as is or if people want we can do a re-vote.

[Nige]

I just had a quick look at it was 8 vs 8 on the naming of teams structure.

Happy to leave it as is or if people want we can do a re-vote.

12 team comp now, I think doing a re-vote is probably worth it.

[Rids]

If 4 people want a re-vote then we will have one otherwise with only 2 weeks remaing till rd 1 it prob makes sense to leave it as is and vote for the change for season 2020.

Please post here if you want to do a re-vote on the format for posting teams.

[Nige]

Just returning to these comments:

We did 2 seperate threads last year so dont know why that would change this year.

Things don't have to stay the same from year to the year. The reason I suggested it is because for a number of years now, particularly last year, the 'match centre' threads had little to no activity in them, and generally that activty only came after BB posted the results in those threads. I would have thought only having one thread and condensing everything (matchups, submissions, banter, results) into it makes it easier from an administrative point of view.

I dont really mind what format people post in.

If you don't mind what format people post in, then why not just accept both formats and avoid the revote to force people into one or the other?

[Rids]

Just returning to these comments:

We did 2 seperate threads last year so dont know why that would change this year.

Things don't have to stay the same from year to the year. The reason I suggested it is because for a number of years now, particularly last year, the 'match centre' threads had little to no activity in them, and generally that activty only came after BB posted the results in those threads. I would have thought only having one thread and condensing everything (matchups, submissions, banter, results) into it makes it easier from an administrative point of view.

I dont really mind what format people post in.

If you don't mind what format people post in, then why not just accept both formats and avoid the revote to force people into one or the other?

Because the decision is not up to me. It has been voted on when there were 16 teams and was 8 to 8. Granted now we have 12 teams so happy to re-vote if 4 people post here saying they would like it. I prefer the old format myself. People complaining about spending an extra 2 minutes to post a team can spend 30 seconds now to get a re-vote simply by posting re-vote.

Again, I dont see why there needs to be change with the 2 threads. Again flexible with the majority so will change it if needed.

There is only 2 weeks to go till round 1. Changes now should really apply to next season but happy to make an exception in this case.

[Nige]

fwiw, this is the post I was thinking about/referring to when I mentioned the change in submission format.

I'll also add that now as we are using UF to collate our scores, I am happy for our team submission format to be relaxed and for coaches not be required to use our current team submission template. I know this has been an aspect of the comp a number of coaches have wanted changed for a while, so hopefully that is at least a small concession!

I thought it had gone to vote, but it appears BB simply made the decision to allow it.

[Rids]

It went to a vote...

Looking at what has been discussed so far in this thread http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,108074.0.html thinking that we should set out a list in preparation for discussion prion to this 2017 seasons completion.

1: Removal of Rookie List, meaning squad of 46 players. Saying if this gets up will also mean removal of the LTI thread also.

Rookie list to be removed. Voting Results: Remove 10. Keep 5. Other 1. Total Votes 16.
     
2: National Draft rule 2hr & 24hr remains, but for the first round, if it goes over, you get the next allocated AFL drafted player. Also if you log on prior to the next coach pick, you can change the allocated pick.

National Draft rule 2hr & 24hr remains. Voting Results: Yes 10. No 4. Awaiting Votes 1

3. Points Cap, tho previously discussed & defeated.

Points Cap. Voting Results: No 11. Yes 4. Awaiting Votes 2.

4. Finalise squads after AFL Draft, meaning if players (who are currently on a AXV list) are delisted and get picked up. AXV Clubs will know before finalising.

Finalise squads after AFL Draft. Voting Results: Yes 9. No 5. Awaiting Votes 2.

5. Bidding process for returning AFL players, returning players who have been out of the AFL system for at least one year. They will not be on a current AXV list. The Club who last owned that player will get to match any bid prior to the AXV Nat draft.

Bidding process for returning AFL players. Voting Results: Yes 10. No 4. Awaiting Votes 2.

6. Team Submission, (A) Keep the current naming of team. (B) Submit the traditional way & as well use UF.

Team Submission. Voting Results: Current 8. Traditional 8

7. Players Positions, (A) Maintain the current Virtual Sports. (B) Adopt UF's positions at start of the season.**Note saying if this gets voted in, would then require another vote on to "Allow In-Season Updates."

Players Positions. Voting Results:

8. Play through the bye rounds, Play through or have all these nominated bye rounds off.  Wording added "all these" to implement any others that may occur.

Play through bye rounds. Voting Results: Play through 8. Have off 8.

9. Leadership Group, In the week leading up to the first round of the season, each team must nominate 5 players on their list to form their leadership group. The Captain, Vice-Captain or Co-Captain's you select on any given game, MUST come from this group.

Leadership Group. Voting Results: Yes 3. No 12. Awaiting Votes 1

Have resent for voting Rule 2 to the coaches that have currently not voted.

Rules 3 4 & 5 feel that these need to be implemented prior to the seasons ending, so when the results from Rule 2 are in will send out rule 3.

With 4 rounds to go for the seasons end & then finals, these rules above will need to be voted on prior to trading & drafts.
Know that being harped on, but this way trading & drafting won't be held up.

Rule 2 has gone over by a majority & passed & will be implemented for the upcoming draft.

Rule 3 Defeated for the 2nd year in a row now.
Rule 4 Finalise squad after the Draft is in.
Rule 5 Bidding on players after a year out of system

PM will be sent out soon for voting on #6, #8 & #9. 
**Note #7 is a 3 part vote so will be the last one sent.
Thanks for all that have responded.

Update: #6 & #8 are in the balance.
#9 Leadership group is defeated.

Rule #6 has come in even, so the current way of naming teams stays.
Rule #8 has come in even so we play through the bye rounds.

Rule #7 will be sending out soon to be voted on.

[fanTCfool]

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[Nige]

That vote is pretty outdated though, it's from 2017. The BB quote is from just over 6 months ago.

[nas]

Yep vote on 2017 & BB a year later made the decision to change.

[Rids]

Yep vote on 2017 & BB a year later made the decision to change.

The vote was the last one taken from what I can see. BB or any admin should not be making any decision based on the comp. It has always been that there is a vote.

I am happy to send out a message and get a new vote on the team submission allocation format.

[SydneyRox]

Just catching up, have voted on the format, and TBH i never quite understood the two posts for submission and match.

Most of the comps catch the banter in the one thread where it happens.

When the admin had more time maybe, but like someone said the match thread was a bit of a ghost town last year or so

[Rids]

7 votes in so far.

Option A - 4 votes
Option B - 3 votes