AXVs 2018 Rule Discussion

Started by Ricochet, September 16, 2016, 05:21:23 PM

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nas

I'll update & resend out 2morrow as away ATM

nas

#46
Quote from: nas on January 09, 2017, 10:46:06 AM
Looking at what has been discussed so far in this thread http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,108074.0.html thinking that we should set out a list in preparation for discussion prion to this 2017 seasons completion.

1: Removal of Rookie List, meaning squad of 46 players. Saying if this gets up will also mean removal of the LTI thread also.

Rookie list to be removed. Voting Results: Remove 10. Keep 5. Other 1. Total Votes 16.
     
2: National Draft rule 2hr & 24hr remains, but for the first round, if it goes over, you get the next allocated AFL drafted player. Also if you log on prior to the next coach pick, you can change the allocated pick.

National Draft rule 2hr & 24hr remains. Voting Results:

3. Points Cap, tho previously discussed & defeated.

Points Cap. Voting Results:

4. Finalise squads after AFL Draft, meaning if players (who are currently on a AXV list) are delisted and get picked up. AXV Clubs will know before finalising.

Finalise squads after AFL Draft. Voting Results:

5. Bidding process for returning AFL players, returning players who have been out of the AFL system for at least one year. They will not be on a current AXV list. The Club who last owned that player will get to match any bid prior to the AXV Nat draft.

Bidding process for returning AFL players. Voting Results:

6. Team Submission, (A) Keep the current naming of team. (B) Submit the traditional way & as well use UF.

Team Submission. Voting Results:

7. Players Positions, (A) Maintain the current Virtual Sports. (B) Adopt UF's positions at start of the season.**Note saying if this gets voted in, would then require another vote on to "Allow In-Season Updates."

Players Positions. Voting Results:

8. Play through the bye rounds, Play through or have all these nominated bye rounds off.  Wording added "all these" to implement any others that may occur.

Play through bye rounds. Voting Results:

9. Leadership Group, In the week leading up to the first round of the season, each team must nominate 5 players on their list to form their leadership group. The Captain, Vice-Captain or Co-Captain's you select on any given game, MUST come from this group.

Leadership Group. Voting Results:


Have resent for voting Rule 2 to the coaches that have currently not voted.

Rules 3 4 & 5 feel that these need to be implemented prior to the seasons ending, so when the results from Rule 2 are in will send out rule 3.

Nige

Okay, so I don't think I've ever made a secret of how much I hate how the byes work in the comp, it's arguably the worst rule across the entire XVs imo. I rather we not play the byes at all like Euros. There's only marginally more activity here so it's not like people will miss the action. Although a 3 week hiatus is kinda counterproductive in terms of activity. I really that's extremely contradictory, but I guess unless there's some kind of like all stars game that other comps have, there's no real other solution.

Ricochet

I don't mind if we scrap playing over the byes, but it would have to be replaced with something. Can't have 3 weeks of nothing imo



We could use something similar to the WXVs fixture and still get the Rounds in across the 3 weeks

Or, something a little different, instead of a best XV each week what about condensing it down for the bye period? Best X? Best VIII?

Nige

Quote from: Ricochet on June 14, 2017, 12:39:42 PM
I don't mind if we scrap playing over the byes, but it would have to be replaced with something. Can't have 3 weeks of nothing imo



We could use something similar to the WXVs fixture and still get the Rounds in across the 3 weeks

Or, something a little different, instead of a best XV each week what about condensing it down for the bye period? Best X? Best VIII?
I'm okay with the idea of condensing it down.

GoLions

Quote from: Ricochet on June 14, 2017, 12:39:42 PM
I don't mind if we scrap playing over the byes, but it would have to be replaced with something. Can't have 3 weeks of nothing imo



We could use something similar to the WXVs fixture and still get the Rounds in across the 3 weeks

Or, something a little different, instead of a best XV each week what about condensing it down for the bye period? Best X? Best VIII?
If you want to condense, don't need to condense too much. 3-4-1-3-1 (3) should be fine.

Koop

#51
Something like Worlds could work here tbh

INCDOCHINA TERRITORAL (Territoral Chinese Countries + Indochina pensinsulan countries) (Vietnam, Laos, Taiwan, Mongolia, Hong Kong, Tibet, KL, Bangkok)

WEST-SOUTH ASIAN ALLIANCE (West Asia, Subcontinent, Rest of South East Asia, PNG & AUS) (UAE, Turkey, Australia, PNG, Manila, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Kathmandu)

OR

INDOCHINA TERRITORIAL IGUANAS (Vietnam, Laos, Taiwan, Mongolia, Hong Kong, Tibet)

WEST ASIAN WARRIORS (Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Kathmandu, UAE, Turkey)

SOUTH EAST AUSTRALALASIA ANTELOPES  (Australia, PNG, Manila, Bangkok, KL)

OR

TERRITORIAL (Taiwan, Mongolia, Hong Kong, Tibet)
WA/SC (UAE, Bangladesh, Turkey, Sri Lanka)
INDOCHINA + KATHMANDU (lol) (Laos, Bangkok, Vietnam, Kathmandu)
SEA (Manila, Australia, PNG, KL

OR

NORTH (Mongolia, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Tibet)
WEST (Turkey, UAE, Kathmandu, Sri Lanka)
SOUTH (Australia, PNG, Manila, KL)
CENTRAL (Vietnam, Laos, Bangladesh, Bangkok)

OR

OILERS (Turkey, UAE)
SHERPAS (Kathmandu, Tibet)
ARE WE REALLY ASIANS? (Australia, PNG)
LADYBOYS (Bangkok, Manila)
GUERILLAS (Vietnam, Laos)
CRICKETERS (Sri Lanka, Bangladesh)
FLOWER OFF CHINA (Mongolia, Taiwan)
AIRPORTS N' STUFF (Hong Kong, KL)

----

I think representatives would be a lot more interesting than condensed/staggered bye scoring, if we were to change how things operate.



Koop

Would like to put forward a proposal for 2018 that the fixture be done so that the remaining 4 games after we play everyone once are truly random, and not just the first 4 teams you played against early in the season.

nas

Quote from: Koop on June 24, 2017, 05:24:28 PM
Would like to put forward a proposal for 2018 that the fixture be done so that the remaining 4 games after we play everyone once are truly random, and not just the first 4 teams you played against early in the season.

or if rule 8 gets up where we don't play through the bye rounds (4 this year) then that is / would be solved? Do the suggestion of your earlier post re playing a series like worlds etc.

Koop

Quote from: nas on June 24, 2017, 05:32:44 PM
Quote from: Koop on June 24, 2017, 05:24:28 PM
Would like to put forward a proposal for 2018 that the fixture be done so that the remaining 4 games after we play everyone once are truly random, and not just the first 4 teams you played against early in the season.

or if rule 8 gets up where we don't play through the bye rounds (4 this year) then that is / would be solved? Do the suggestion of your earlier post re playing a series like worlds etc.

Actually yeah fair comment, and odd round could be a rivalry round?

nas

Quote from: nas on June 09, 2017, 08:32:17 AM
Quote from: nas on January 09, 2017, 10:46:06 AM
Looking at what has been discussed so far in this thread http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,108074.0.html thinking that we should set out a list in preparation for discussion prion to this 2017 seasons completion.

1: Removal of Rookie List, meaning squad of 46 players. Saying if this gets up will also mean removal of the LTI thread also.

Rookie list to be removed. Voting Results: Remove 10. Keep 5. Other 1. Total Votes 16.
     
2: National Draft rule 2hr & 24hr remains, but for the first round, if it goes over, you get the next allocated AFL drafted player. Also if you log on prior to the next coach pick, you can change the allocated pick.

National Draft rule 2hr & 24hr remains. Voting Results:

3. Points Cap, tho previously discussed & defeated.

Points Cap. Voting Results:

4. Finalise squads after AFL Draft, meaning if players (who are currently on a AXV list) are delisted and get picked up. AXV Clubs will know before finalising.

Finalise squads after AFL Draft. Voting Results:

5. Bidding process for returning AFL players, returning players who have been out of the AFL system for at least one year. They will not be on a current AXV list. The Club who last owned that player will get to match any bid prior to the AXV Nat draft.

Bidding process for returning AFL players. Voting Results:

6. Team Submission, (A) Keep the current naming of team. (B) Submit the traditional way & as well use UF.

Team Submission. Voting Results:

7. Players Positions, (A) Maintain the current Virtual Sports. (B) Adopt UF's positions at start of the season.**Note saying if this gets voted in, would then require another vote on to "Allow In-Season Updates."

Players Positions. Voting Results:

8. Play through the bye rounds, Play through or have all these nominated bye rounds off.  Wording added "all these" to implement any others that may occur.

Play through bye rounds. Voting Results:

9. Leadership Group, In the week leading up to the first round of the season, each team must nominate 5 players on their list to form their leadership group. The Captain, Vice-Captain or Co-Captain's you select on any given game, MUST come from this group.

Leadership Group. Voting Results:


Have resent for voting Rule 2 to the coaches that have currently not voted.

Rules 3 4 & 5 feel that these need to be implemented prior to the seasons ending, so when the results from Rule 2 are in will send out rule 3.

With 4 rounds to go for the seasons end & then finals, these rules above will need to be voted on prior to trading & drafts.
Know that being harped on, but this way trading & drafting won't be held up.

nas

Quote from: nas on July 06, 2017, 06:21:42 PM
Quote from: nas on June 09, 2017, 08:32:17 AM
Quote from: nas on January 09, 2017, 10:46:06 AM
Looking at what has been discussed so far in this thread http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,108074.0.html thinking that we should set out a list in preparation for discussion prion to this 2017 seasons completion.

1: Removal of Rookie List, meaning squad of 46 players. Saying if this gets up will also mean removal of the LTI thread also.

Rookie list to be removed. Voting Results: Remove 10. Keep 5. Other 1. Total Votes 16.
     
2: National Draft rule 2hr & 24hr remains, but for the first round, if it goes over, you get the next allocated AFL drafted player. Also if you log on prior to the next coach pick, you can change the allocated pick.

National Draft rule 2hr & 24hr remains. Voting Results: Yes 10. No 4. Awaiting Votes 2

3. Points Cap, tho previously discussed & defeated.

Points Cap. Voting Results:

4. Finalise squads after AFL Draft, meaning if players (who are currently on a AXV list) are delisted and get picked up. AXV Clubs will know before finalising.

Finalise squads after AFL Draft. Voting Results:

5. Bidding process for returning AFL players, returning players who have been out of the AFL system for at least one year. They will not be on a current AXV list. The Club who last owned that player will get to match any bid prior to the AXV Nat draft.

Bidding process for returning AFL players. Voting Results:

6. Team Submission, (A) Keep the current naming of team. (B) Submit the traditional way & as well use UF.

Team Submission. Voting Results:

7. Players Positions, (A) Maintain the current Virtual Sports. (B) Adopt UF's positions at start of the season.**Note saying if this gets voted in, would then require another vote on to "Allow In-Season Updates."

Players Positions. Voting Results:

8. Play through the bye rounds, Play through or have all these nominated bye rounds off.  Wording added "all these" to implement any others that may occur.

Play through bye rounds. Voting Results:

9. Leadership Group, In the week leading up to the first round of the season, each team must nominate 5 players on their list to form their leadership group. The Captain, Vice-Captain or Co-Captain's you select on any given game, MUST come from this group.

Leadership Group. Voting Results:


Have resent for voting Rule 2 to the coaches that have currently not voted.

Rules 3 4 & 5 feel that these need to be implemented prior to the seasons ending, so when the results from Rule 2 are in will send out rule 3.

With 4 rounds to go for the seasons end & then finals, these rules above will need to be voted on prior to trading & drafts.
Know that being harped on, but this way trading & drafting won't be held up.

Rule 2 has gone over by a majority & passed & will be implemented for the upcoming draft.

Hawka


SydneyRox

what about a vote on some sort of penalty for not voting on rule changes!!

:)


nas

#59
Progressing along, 6 5 4 coaches remaining to vote on the rules: #3, #4, & #5.