The Process 21

Started by Mat0369, January 28, 2021, 01:34:55 AM

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Mat0369

Just threw together a quick side. I have so far

Lloyd, Stewart, Williams, Marchbank, Grainger-Barras, Gould, Bianco, McLennan
Neale, Cripps, Yeo, Taranto, Prestia, Cunnington, Kemp, Valente, Cockatoo, Stephens, Collier-Dawkins
Gawn, Preuss, Treacy
Sidebottom, Marshall, Zorko, Ziebell, Daniher, Ugle-Hagan, Hutchings, Macrae

I initially had Mitchell and Heppell in one of my first drafts but both are in doubt for round one. Rookies are placeholders and Marchbank, Daniher and Prestia have come into my team for the first time.

Prestia is the most expensive mid price mid that I would consider so he is a bit of a placeholder.

Marchbank I don't think will have the job security he did 2 years ago which is the only reason he would go out of my side.

Daniher I am meh on but again, most expensive mid price option I would look at for cash purposes.

Zorko is also one that I think may get cheaper at some point but I really like him as a forward option. I have the option to downgrade him to Heeney or upgrade him to Dusty.


Ashmore62

Quote from: Mat0369 on January 28, 2021, 01:34:55 AM
Just threw together a quick side. I have so far

Lloyd, Stewart, Williams, Marchbank, Grainger-Barras, Gould, Bianco, McLennan
Neale, Cripps, Yeo, Taranto, Prestia, Cunnington, Kemp, Valente, Cockatoo, Stephens, Collier-Dawkins
Gawn, Preuss, Treacy
Sidebottom, Marshall, Zorko, Ziebell, Daniher, Ugle-Hagan, Hutchings, Macrae

I initially had Mitchell and Heppell in one of my first drafts but both are in doubt for round one. Rookies are placeholders and Marchbank, Daniher and Prestia have come into my team for the first time.

Prestia is the most expensive mid price mid that I would consider so he is a bit of a placeholder.

Marchbank I don't think will have the job security he did 2 years ago which is the only reason he would go out of my side.

Daniher I am meh on but again, most expensive mid price option I would look at for cash purposes.

Zorko is also one that I think may get cheaper at some point but I really like him as a forward option. I have the option to downgrade him to Heeney or upgrade him to Dusty.


Sorry old mate, you've given excellent advice over the years but this side is not your usual high standard. Would start again .

Mat0369

Draft 2

Lloyd, Laird, Stewart, Williams, Grainger-Barras, Gould, Bianco, De Koning
Neale, Cripps, Taranto, Cunnington, Heppell, Atkins, Dow, Valente, Cockatoo, Rantall, Stephens
Gawn, Preuss, Treacy
Sidebottom, Marshall, Dusty, Ziebell, Daniher, Impey, Rowe, Macrae

I have 34k in the bank. I have had Mitchell and Zorko in and out of my team. My worry with Mitchell is the surgery and the possible doubt for Round 1. Zorko was apparently carrying an injury last year and still had a pretty good season. He always puts up a stinker though and could be a prime early upgrade candidate.

Yeo looks in doubt for round 1 so he has come out otherwise he was a lock. Simpkin is really tempting me but I am starting Cunnington at the cheaper price.

Defense I feel there are quite a few options with Ridley, Daniel and Ryan being great picks. I feel Doch will bounce back having the run in his legs after a couple years off and I like Lukosius as a breakout contender.

Forward line I'm pretty happy with. It just might be the Dusty to Zorko/Walters move.

Overall the key is to eliminate as many rookies on field as possible and capitalise on the value mids.

Ringo

Just keep an eye on Heppell as well Matt.  He has been in hospital with serious infections which may put his fitness a little behind.

Not sure on Zorks either as he has not yet participated in any of the intra club sessions. For that matter neither has Neale. May be precaution with his previous injury.

Personally think Mids a little light on Premiums but may pay off.


Mat0369

I saw the Heppell news a few weeks back before SC opened and then read he played in the intra at HB. When I saw he played he came straight back in.

With the shorter off-season I think a lot of guys are going to be managed until R1 kicks off. It could be why Zorko/Neale haven't participated, especially going into a deep finals campaign.

Mat0369

Current side as it stands

Lloyd, Laird, Mills, Stewart, Clark, Briggs, Kosi, Highmore
Neale, Fyfe, Gaff, Cripps, Taranto, Campbell, Bruhn, Powell, Brockman, Gulden, McNeil
Gawn, Grundy, Meek
Martin, Ziebell, Daniher, Impey, Dow, Warner, Bergman, Rowe

16k left over.

I have had a number of guys in and out of my side including 5 premiums down back in one draft. Dom Tyson is one that I had in after the North game and then thought about it a little bit more before taking him back out. If he plays he could be a great rookie priced player but then I saw how many mids North were missing that are due back for Round 1.

After watching the North game it gave me a little bit of cold feet over Simpkin/Cunnington in my side. LDU looked amazing, Anderson is due back along with Garner. If Cunnington gets thrown forward a bit more I'm not sure how he will score. Simpkin is also most likely to get tagged and that is something he struggled with last season. I'd personally rather wait and see before trading one in but I could flip again on that before the start of the season.

To upgrade Cunnington I had to downgrade Heppell. It allowed me to bring in Gaff who I think will benefit from the rule changes with the way he uses his running ability to cover the ground and receive handballs.

I am also targeting kick out specialists in defence. Stewart and Lloyd both fill that role. Laird is playing as a permeant mid so I think he picks himself. I'm not sure that Mills looked all that comfortable playing in the midfield at CB's and played better on the wing when pushed out. He is the one I may look to offload to a Daniel/Ridley type. If Williams doesn't get suspended he is the obvious pick so that's also an easy downgrade.

Ringo

Any concerns with Cripps who played mainly forward and only scored 69 from 91% TOG,  Cripps has been in and out of my teams and at the moment is out.

Mat0369

Nope, he still attended the most CB's of any Carlton mid and pre-season is still time to experiment. He apparently dominated the practice match against the Bombers and McKay went down with an injury early so they needed a marking target up forward other than McDonald.

Bully

Tempted to pick Williams even if he's suspended, will be a great POD in that case. Quietly confident he spends plenty of time in the middle.

Mat0369

Quote from: Bully on March 08, 2021, 02:47:34 PM
Tempted to pick Williams even if he's suspended, will be a great POD in that case. Quietly confident he spends plenty of time in the middle.

The issue is who covers Williams while he is out? Highmore may not be named Round 1. While Briggs was excellent does the spot go back to Flynn since he missed with injury? That leaves Kosi who you probably field at D6 anyway. So you're looking at missing a premo score for a donut which is costly.

Bully

Quote from: Mat0369 on March 08, 2021, 03:00:41 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 08, 2021, 02:47:34 PM
Tempted to pick Williams even if he's suspended, will be a great POD in that case. Quietly confident he spends plenty of time in the middle.

The issue is who covers Williams while he is out? Highmore may not be named Round 1. While Briggs was excellent does the spot go back to Flynn since he missed with injury? That leaves Kosi who you probably field at D6 anyway. So you're looking at missing a premo score for a donut which is costly.

The solution with Briggs is to select Flynn, good chance you get 1 playing most weeks. If Briggs nails the spot you can sit Flynn at R3 until his time arrives. I see this arrangement as largely fool proof.

As far as the rookie score is concerned, it's risky but if you manage to pull in a 60 then it's probably worth it. We all know that Williams is a good shot for a 95 average & that is perfect for his price. Carlton will also be wanting to see a return on their investment.

Fid

Quote from: Bully on March 08, 2021, 03:20:01 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 08, 2021, 03:00:41 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 08, 2021, 02:47:34 PM
Tempted to pick Williams even if he's suspended, will be a great POD in that case. Quietly confident he spends plenty of time in the middle.

The issue is who covers Williams while he is out? Highmore may not be named Round 1. While Briggs was excellent does the spot go back to Flynn since he missed with injury? That leaves Kosi who you probably field at D6 anyway. So you're looking at missing a premo score for a donut which is costly.

The solution with Briggs is to select Flynn, good chance you get 1 playing most weeks. If Briggs nails the spot you can sit Flynn at R3 until his time arrives. I see this arrangement as largely fool proof.

As far as the rookie score is concerned, it's risky but if you manage to pull in a 60 then it's probably worth it. We all know that Williams is a good shot for a 95 average & that is perfect for his price. Carlton will also be wanting to see a return on their investment.

Then again, Meek looks pretty good @ R3

Bully

Quote from: Fid on March 08, 2021, 03:36:47 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 08, 2021, 03:20:01 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 08, 2021, 03:00:41 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 08, 2021, 02:47:34 PM
Tempted to pick Williams even if he's suspended, will be a great POD in that case. Quietly confident he spends plenty of time in the middle.

The issue is who covers Williams while he is out? Highmore may not be named Round 1. While Briggs was excellent does the spot go back to Flynn since he missed with injury? That leaves Kosi who you probably field at D6 anyway. So you're looking at missing a premo score for a donut which is costly.

The solution with Briggs is to select Flynn, good chance you get 1 playing most weeks. If Briggs nails the spot you can sit Flynn at R3 until his time arrives. I see this arrangement as largely fool proof.

As far as the rookie score is concerned, it's risky but if you manage to pull in a 60 then it's probably worth it. We all know that Williams is a good shot for a 95 average & that is perfect for his price. Carlton will also be wanting to see a return on their investment.

Then again, Meek looks pretty good @ R3

Has Darcy fallen out of favour? If so this is a viable option.

Mat0369

Quote from: Bully on March 08, 2021, 03:20:01 PM
The solution with Briggs is to select Flynn, good chance you get 1 playing most weeks. If Briggs nails the spot you can sit Flynn at R3 until his time arrives. I see this arrangement as largely fool proof.

As far as the rookie score is concerned, it's risky but if you manage to pull in a 60 then it's probably worth it. We all know that Williams is a good shot for a 95 average & that is perfect for his price. Carlton will also be wanting to see a return on their investment.

That solution only works if Flynn can be picked as a defender which he can't be. You need coverage down back and you need Williams to outscore the other player by about 100 points on the season.

Quote from: Fid on March 08, 2021, 03:36:47 PM
Then again, Meek looks pretty good @ R3

There is this as well. If Flynn is picked Round 1 Briggs won't be. I'd pick Flynn in that case, but if Briggs gets the nod I'd start Meek at R3.

shaker

Quote from: Mat0369 on March 08, 2021, 03:58:55 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 08, 2021, 03:20:01 PM
The solution with Briggs is to select Flynn, good chance you get 1 playing most weeks. If Briggs nails the spot you can sit Flynn at R3 until his time arrives. I see this arrangement as largely fool proof.

As far as the rookie score is concerned, it's risky but if you manage to pull in a 60 then it's probably worth it. We all know that Williams is a good shot for a 95 average & that is perfect for his price. Carlton will also be wanting to see a return on their investment.

That solution only works if Flynn can be picked as a defender which he can't be. You need coverage down back and you need Williams to outscore the other player by about 100 points on the season.

Quote from: Fid on March 08, 2021, 03:36:47 PM
Then again, Meek looks pretty good @ R3

There is this as well. If Flynn is picked Round 1 Briggs won't be. I'd pick Flynn in that case, but if Briggs gets the nod I'd start Meek at R3.
For what I can find Darcy is on track for R1 I think I even heard them say that during yesterdays game.