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Title: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on January 28, 2021, 01:34:55 AM
Just threw together a quick side. I have so far

Lloyd, Stewart, Williams, Marchbank, Grainger-Barras, Gould, Bianco, McLennan
Neale, Cripps, Yeo, Taranto, Prestia, Cunnington, Kemp, Valente, Cockatoo, Stephens, Collier-Dawkins
Gawn, Preuss, Treacy
Sidebottom, Marshall, Zorko, Ziebell, Daniher, Ugle-Hagan, Hutchings, Macrae

I initially had Mitchell and Heppell in one of my first drafts but both are in doubt for round one. Rookies are placeholders and Marchbank, Daniher and Prestia have come into my team for the first time.

Prestia is the most expensive mid price mid that I would consider so he is a bit of a placeholder.

Marchbank I don't think will have the job security he did 2 years ago which is the only reason he would go out of my side.

Daniher I am meh on but again, most expensive mid price option I would look at for cash purposes.

Zorko is also one that I think may get cheaper at some point but I really like him as a forward option. I have the option to downgrade him to Heeney or upgrade him to Dusty.

Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Ashmore62 on January 28, 2021, 05:57:07 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on January 28, 2021, 01:34:55 AM
Just threw together a quick side. I have so far

Lloyd, Stewart, Williams, Marchbank, Grainger-Barras, Gould, Bianco, McLennan
Neale, Cripps, Yeo, Taranto, Prestia, Cunnington, Kemp, Valente, Cockatoo, Stephens, Collier-Dawkins
Gawn, Preuss, Treacy
Sidebottom, Marshall, Zorko, Ziebell, Daniher, Ugle-Hagan, Hutchings, Macrae

I initially had Mitchell and Heppell in one of my first drafts but both are in doubt for round one. Rookies are placeholders and Marchbank, Daniher and Prestia have come into my team for the first time.

Prestia is the most expensive mid price mid that I would consider so he is a bit of a placeholder.

Marchbank I don't think will have the job security he did 2 years ago which is the only reason he would go out of my side.

Daniher I am meh on but again, most expensive mid price option I would look at for cash purposes.

Zorko is also one that I think may get cheaper at some point but I really like him as a forward option. I have the option to downgrade him to Heeney or upgrade him to Dusty.


Sorry old mate, you've given excellent advice over the years but this side is not your usual high standard. Would start again .
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on February 10, 2021, 06:38:42 PM
Draft 2

Lloyd, Laird, Stewart, Williams, Grainger-Barras, Gould, Bianco, De Koning
Neale, Cripps, Taranto, Cunnington, Heppell, Atkins, Dow, Valente, Cockatoo, Rantall, Stephens
Gawn, Preuss, Treacy
Sidebottom, Marshall, Dusty, Ziebell, Daniher, Impey, Rowe, Macrae

I have 34k in the bank. I have had Mitchell and Zorko in and out of my team. My worry with Mitchell is the surgery and the possible doubt for Round 1. Zorko was apparently carrying an injury last year and still had a pretty good season. He always puts up a stinker though and could be a prime early upgrade candidate.

Yeo looks in doubt for round 1 so he has come out otherwise he was a lock. Simpkin is really tempting me but I am starting Cunnington at the cheaper price.

Defense I feel there are quite a few options with Ridley, Daniel and Ryan being great picks. I feel Doch will bounce back having the run in his legs after a couple years off and I like Lukosius as a breakout contender.

Forward line I'm pretty happy with. It just might be the Dusty to Zorko/Walters move.

Overall the key is to eliminate as many rookies on field as possible and capitalise on the value mids.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Ringo on February 10, 2021, 07:03:21 PM
Just keep an eye on Heppell as well Matt.  He has been in hospital with serious infections which may put his fitness a little behind.

Not sure on Zorks either as he has not yet participated in any of the intra club sessions. For that matter neither has Neale. May be precaution with his previous injury.

Personally think Mids a little light on Premiums but may pay off.

Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on February 10, 2021, 07:07:47 PM
I saw the Heppell news a few weeks back before SC opened and then read he played in the intra at HB. When I saw he played he came straight back in.

With the shorter off-season I think a lot of guys are going to be managed until R1 kicks off. It could be why Zorko/Neale haven't participated, especially going into a deep finals campaign.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on March 08, 2021, 02:40:32 AM
Current side as it stands

Lloyd, Laird, Mills, Stewart, Clark, Briggs, Kosi, Highmore
Neale, Fyfe, Gaff, Cripps, Taranto, Campbell, Bruhn, Powell, Brockman, Gulden, McNeil
Gawn, Grundy, Meek
Martin, Ziebell, Daniher, Impey, Dow, Warner, Bergman, Rowe

16k left over.

I have had a number of guys in and out of my side including 5 premiums down back in one draft. Dom Tyson is one that I had in after the North game and then thought about it a little bit more before taking him back out. If he plays he could be a great rookie priced player but then I saw how many mids North were missing that are due back for Round 1.

After watching the North game it gave me a little bit of cold feet over Simpkin/Cunnington in my side. LDU looked amazing, Anderson is due back along with Garner. If Cunnington gets thrown forward a bit more I'm not sure how he will score. Simpkin is also most likely to get tagged and that is something he struggled with last season. I'd personally rather wait and see before trading one in but I could flip again on that before the start of the season.

To upgrade Cunnington I had to downgrade Heppell. It allowed me to bring in Gaff who I think will benefit from the rule changes with the way he uses his running ability to cover the ground and receive handballs.

I am also targeting kick out specialists in defence. Stewart and Lloyd both fill that role. Laird is playing as a permeant mid so I think he picks himself. I'm not sure that Mills looked all that comfortable playing in the midfield at CB's and played better on the wing when pushed out. He is the one I may look to offload to a Daniel/Ridley type. If Williams doesn't get suspended he is the obvious pick so that's also an easy downgrade.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Ringo on March 08, 2021, 10:55:56 AM
Any concerns with Cripps who played mainly forward and only scored 69 from 91% TOG,  Cripps has been in and out of my teams and at the moment is out.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on March 08, 2021, 02:38:44 PM
Nope, he still attended the most CB's of any Carlton mid and pre-season is still time to experiment. He apparently dominated the practice match against the Bombers and McKay went down with an injury early so they needed a marking target up forward other than McDonald.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Bully on March 08, 2021, 02:47:34 PM
Tempted to pick Williams even if he's suspended, will be a great POD in that case. Quietly confident he spends plenty of time in the middle.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on March 08, 2021, 03:00:41 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 08, 2021, 02:47:34 PM
Tempted to pick Williams even if he's suspended, will be a great POD in that case. Quietly confident he spends plenty of time in the middle.

The issue is who covers Williams while he is out? Highmore may not be named Round 1. While Briggs was excellent does the spot go back to Flynn since he missed with injury? That leaves Kosi who you probably field at D6 anyway. So you're looking at missing a premo score for a donut which is costly.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Bully on March 08, 2021, 03:20:01 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 08, 2021, 03:00:41 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 08, 2021, 02:47:34 PM
Tempted to pick Williams even if he's suspended, will be a great POD in that case. Quietly confident he spends plenty of time in the middle.

The issue is who covers Williams while he is out? Highmore may not be named Round 1. While Briggs was excellent does the spot go back to Flynn since he missed with injury? That leaves Kosi who you probably field at D6 anyway. So you're looking at missing a premo score for a donut which is costly.

The solution with Briggs is to select Flynn, good chance you get 1 playing most weeks. If Briggs nails the spot you can sit Flynn at R3 until his time arrives. I see this arrangement as largely fool proof.

As far as the rookie score is concerned, it's risky but if you manage to pull in a 60 then it's probably worth it. We all know that Williams is a good shot for a 95 average & that is perfect for his price. Carlton will also be wanting to see a return on their investment.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Fid on March 08, 2021, 03:36:47 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 08, 2021, 03:20:01 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 08, 2021, 03:00:41 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 08, 2021, 02:47:34 PM
Tempted to pick Williams even if he's suspended, will be a great POD in that case. Quietly confident he spends plenty of time in the middle.

The issue is who covers Williams while he is out? Highmore may not be named Round 1. While Briggs was excellent does the spot go back to Flynn since he missed with injury? That leaves Kosi who you probably field at D6 anyway. So you're looking at missing a premo score for a donut which is costly.

The solution with Briggs is to select Flynn, good chance you get 1 playing most weeks. If Briggs nails the spot you can sit Flynn at R3 until his time arrives. I see this arrangement as largely fool proof.

As far as the rookie score is concerned, it's risky but if you manage to pull in a 60 then it's probably worth it. We all know that Williams is a good shot for a 95 average & that is perfect for his price. Carlton will also be wanting to see a return on their investment.

Then again, Meek looks pretty good @ R3
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Bully on March 08, 2021, 03:51:12 PM
Quote from: Fid on March 08, 2021, 03:36:47 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 08, 2021, 03:20:01 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 08, 2021, 03:00:41 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 08, 2021, 02:47:34 PM
Tempted to pick Williams even if he's suspended, will be a great POD in that case. Quietly confident he spends plenty of time in the middle.

The issue is who covers Williams while he is out? Highmore may not be named Round 1. While Briggs was excellent does the spot go back to Flynn since he missed with injury? That leaves Kosi who you probably field at D6 anyway. So you're looking at missing a premo score for a donut which is costly.

The solution with Briggs is to select Flynn, good chance you get 1 playing most weeks. If Briggs nails the spot you can sit Flynn at R3 until his time arrives. I see this arrangement as largely fool proof.

As far as the rookie score is concerned, it's risky but if you manage to pull in a 60 then it's probably worth it. We all know that Williams is a good shot for a 95 average & that is perfect for his price. Carlton will also be wanting to see a return on their investment.

Then again, Meek looks pretty good @ R3

Has Darcy fallen out of favour? If so this is a viable option.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on March 08, 2021, 03:58:55 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 08, 2021, 03:20:01 PM
The solution with Briggs is to select Flynn, good chance you get 1 playing most weeks. If Briggs nails the spot you can sit Flynn at R3 until his time arrives. I see this arrangement as largely fool proof.

As far as the rookie score is concerned, it's risky but if you manage to pull in a 60 then it's probably worth it. We all know that Williams is a good shot for a 95 average & that is perfect for his price. Carlton will also be wanting to see a return on their investment.

That solution only works if Flynn can be picked as a defender which he can't be. You need coverage down back and you need Williams to outscore the other player by about 100 points on the season.

Quote from: Fid on March 08, 2021, 03:36:47 PM
Then again, Meek looks pretty good @ R3

There is this as well. If Flynn is picked Round 1 Briggs won't be. I'd pick Flynn in that case, but if Briggs gets the nod I'd start Meek at R3.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: shaker on March 08, 2021, 04:10:51 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 08, 2021, 03:58:55 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 08, 2021, 03:20:01 PM
The solution with Briggs is to select Flynn, good chance you get 1 playing most weeks. If Briggs nails the spot you can sit Flynn at R3 until his time arrives. I see this arrangement as largely fool proof.

As far as the rookie score is concerned, it's risky but if you manage to pull in a 60 then it's probably worth it. We all know that Williams is a good shot for a 95 average & that is perfect for his price. Carlton will also be wanting to see a return on their investment.

That solution only works if Flynn can be picked as a defender which he can't be. You need coverage down back and you need Williams to outscore the other player by about 100 points on the season.

Quote from: Fid on March 08, 2021, 03:36:47 PM
Then again, Meek looks pretty good @ R3

There is this as well. If Flynn is picked Round 1 Briggs won't be. I'd pick Flynn in that case, but if Briggs gets the nod I'd start Meek at R3.
For what I can find Darcy is on track for R1 I think I even heard them say that during yesterdays game.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on March 08, 2021, 04:12:03 PM
Darcy is a walking injury and Lobb is out long term. I don't think either option is bad at R3.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Bully on March 08, 2021, 04:29:46 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 08, 2021, 03:58:55 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 08, 2021, 03:20:01 PM
The solution with Briggs is to select Flynn, good chance you get 1 playing most weeks. If Briggs nails the spot you can sit Flynn at R3 until his time arrives. I see this arrangement as largely fool proof.

As far as the rookie score is concerned, it's risky but if you manage to pull in a 60 then it's probably worth it. We all know that Williams is a good shot for a 95 average & that is perfect for his price. Carlton will also be wanting to see a return on their investment.

That solution only works if Flynn can be picked as a defender which he can't be. You need coverage down back and you need Williams to outscore the other player by about 100 points on the season.

Quote from: Fid on March 08, 2021, 03:36:47 PM
Then again, Meek looks pretty good @ R3

There is this as well. If Flynn is picked Round 1 Briggs won't be. I'd pick Flynn in that case, but if Briggs gets the nod I'd start Meek at R3.

Thinking outside the box here, most years we select a floating donut, usually at r3. If this spot is taken with a playing ruck then I don't see an issue with playing that man at D8. I will be watching Bailey Laurie with keen interest, could be the perfect DPP pairing with Briggs.

As for Meek, will be interesting to watch his dual with Darcy, could be a Riley O'Brien scenario or could be a 1 round wonder.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Samsturmfels on March 11, 2021, 05:37:12 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 08, 2021, 02:40:32 AM
Current side as it stands

Lloyd, Laird, Mills, Stewart, Clark, Briggs, Kosi, Highmore
Neale, Fyfe, Gaff, Cripps, Taranto, Campbell, Bruhn, Powell, Brockman, Gulden, McNeil
Gawn, Grundy, Meek
Martin, Ziebell, Daniher, Impey, Dow, Warner, Bergman, Rowe

16k left over.

I have had a number of guys in and out of my side including 5 premiums down back in one draft. Dom Tyson is one that I had in after the North game and then thought about it a little bit more before taking him back out. If he plays he could be a great rookie priced player but then I saw how many mids North were missing that are due back for Round 1.

After watching the North game it gave me a little bit of cold feet over Simpkin/Cunnington in my side. LDU looked amazing, Anderson is due back along with Garner. If Cunnington gets thrown forward a bit more I'm not sure how he will score. Simpkin is also most likely to get tagged and that is something he struggled with last season. I'd personally rather wait and see before trading one in but I could flip again on that before the start of the season.

To upgrade Cunnington I had to downgrade Heppell. It allowed me to bring in Gaff who I think will benefit from the rule changes with the way he uses his running ability to cover the ground and receive handballs.

I am also targeting kick out specialists in defence. Stewart and Lloyd both fill that role. Laird is playing as a permeant mid so I think he picks himself. I'm not sure that Mills looked all that comfortable playing in the midfield at CB's and played better on the wing when pushed out. He is the one I may look to offload to a Daniel/Ridley type. If Williams doesn't get suspended he is the obvious pick so that's also an easy downgrade.

Like you said on my thread, your team structure is very similar to mine. Although a pod, im not sure about the Gaff pick (only highest average ever is a 108.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on March 11, 2021, 07:57:08 PM
Gaff isn't in my team anymore. It's changed about 5 times since posting this but with the same structure.

4 prem defenders and Clark
Neale, forward in the midfield, Cripps, Taranto M5 and rookies
Gawn, Grundy, Flynn/Hunter/Meek
Premium at F1, Ziebell F2, Daniher, Impey, rookies

I'm still undecided in my D4 with Lloyd, Laird and Stewart locked

Unsure of M2 and if I work out my cash to upgrade the forwardine player to a Macrae. I've gone cold on Heppell as well after using the Tooserious calculator.

Forward line is pretty set pending rookies. Same with rucks
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Bully on March 11, 2021, 09:13:21 PM
Top looking team, curious to know your approach with R3?

As for M2, plenty of choices available, Dusty looks to be ripping value so maybe go that way. All reports are he's tearing up the track & looks primed for a big year.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on March 12, 2021, 01:26:19 AM
I had Dusty as my F1 for a while and then swung him into my midfield and moved Dunkley into my forward line. After downgrading Heppell I had about 150k to play with. I could also downgrade Flynn/Meek to Hunter to give me 175k. That allowed me to upgrade Doc to one of Mills/Ridley/Daniel and upgrade Dusty to Macrae. That still leaves me with Fyfe at M3, Cripps at M4 and Taranto at M5
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Ringo on March 12, 2021, 12:06:08 PM
Looking good Matt. Only issue I see is will you get a price rise from Hunter as I think he goes when Ryder comes back but that is unknown at the moment.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on March 12, 2021, 11:15:09 PM
Quote from: Ringo on March 12, 2021, 12:06:08 PM
Looking good Matt. Only issue I see is will you get a price rise from Hunter as I think he goes when Ryder comes back but that is unknown at the moment.

It's pretty much the same with all the rookie rucks. We don't know who gets the nod out of Flynn/Briggs and both could be in and out. Meek is in as long as Darcy is out. That could be a couple rounds or it could be half a season. At least if Hunter gets a gig you get a ton of cash out of the move. If he gets dropped you get a loophole option.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on March 16, 2021, 01:58:11 AM
So Flynn has been named for Round 1 along with Hunter. I'm trying out a two rookie ruck set up and my side looks like this

Lloyd, Laird, Daniel, Stewart, Clark, Butts, Kosi, Highmore
Neale, Macrae, Fyfe, Martin, Cripps, Taranto, Dow, Powell, Brockman, Gulden, Scott
Gawn, Flynn, Hunter
Dunkley, Ziebell, Daniher, Impey, Campbell, Warner, Bergman, Rowe

12 keepers. When I look at ownership percentages my team is actually pretty cookie cutter which is surprising. Butts, Impey and Bergman are my only players under 15% ownership.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: IntegralX on March 16, 2021, 11:35:54 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 16, 2021, 01:58:11 AM
So Flynn has been named for Round 1 along with Hunter. I'm trying out a two rookie ruck set up and my side looks like this

Lloyd, Laird, Daniel, Stewart, Clark, Butts, Kosi, Highmore
Neale, Macrae, Fyfe, Martin, Cripps, Taranto, Dow, Powell, Brockman, Gulden, Scott
Gawn, Flynn, Hunter
Dunkley, Ziebell, Daniher, Impey, Campbell, Warner, Bergman, Rowe

12 keepers. When I look at ownership percentages my team is actually pretty cookie cutter which is surprising. Butts, Impey and Bergman are my only players under 15% ownership.

Structure notwithstanding, I can't say I like that team at all. There seems to be a lot of wasted dollars in there to only wind up with 12 keepers and 2 of them being low end keepers in Cripps and Taranto. Far too many expensive rooks for me, I can see cash generation being an issue if they don't score well early.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on March 17, 2021, 12:22:04 AM
I'm starting Cripps and Taranto regardless. Cripps has been a 115+ player before and I see him getting back. There is way too much value in picking Cripps ad I don't see him as a low end keeper. Taranto I'm expecting to bounce back and best case scenario becomes a top 10 mid, worst case I sideways him later or he sits at M8 and averages 100-105. The one guy in that midfield I would trade out if I had spare cash would be Dusty. To make the move I would probably downgrade Butts to Briggs and run the loophole at D6 using Kosi and Highmore assuming they both get named.

Here are the rookies we have available so far

Defence

Lachie Young - 200k for a guy that isn't high possession and not an intercept player off HB.
Jetta - Hard pass
Butts - In my team. He looks to have a good opportunity at the intercept role along with Doedee. He is 21 so he is mature and coming into his second season of playing games for the Crows.
Cox - 1k cheaper than Butts
Briggs - Likely not to play
Jones - Likely not to play
Kosi - In my team and just about every other team
Highmore - See Kosi and may not even play.
Murray - Ankle injury and may not play anyway even if he is fit. Also likely out when Talia returns in a fortnight and almost impossible to move at a basement price

Midfield

Tyson - Too risky with North missing Cunnington, Anderson and Dumont
Dow - In my side. Expected to play a lot of midfield and coming into his third season. Based on score history he is risky but he is going to be tougher to bring in if he does perform.
Campbell - In my side and will play off HB for the Swans. Amazing kick of the footy.
Perkins - 50/50 proposition and is pricey
Bruhn - Looked class but will play deep forward and need goals to supplement his scoring.
Powell - In my side and will play this week. He is playing higher up the ground than Bruhn so if I had to pick one it's probably Powell.
Ely Smith - Didn't even get named for the pre-season game. even though he has been 'tearing up the track'. I doubt he gets a gig and if he does he is on the fringe.
James Jordan - Brayshaw, Viney and Oliver all didn't play in the pre-season game. That would push Jordan into the reserves pretty quickly
Ralphsmith - Two games at HB before getting dropped? It's also Pickett's spot at HB so he won't play.
Sharp - May get the Rayner spot and could be worth it. Probably the only one I am missing
Brockman - In my team. Looked good but the worry is when Wingard comes back he goes out.
Downie - In the Hawks article this week they did not list him as a potential debutant. He didn't look great either in the first half of the game against North.
Lazzaro - He could play and be out just as fast round 2 with the North mids set to return over the first three weeks.
Gulden - In my side
McNeil - Probably only one of him or Scott gets the gig as the cheapie mid. Scott looked better and McNeil is probably prone to the string of 30's considering his role.
Scott - In my side

Rucks

Flynn - Yup
Hunter - Yup

Forwards

Ziebell - In just about every side
Daniher - See Ziebell
Impey - Averaged 74 playing at HB two seasons ago. His JS is also pretty good so I'll pick him
McDonald - Pricey and a KPP
Henry - Probably only in for the period Walters is out
Cahill - Pretty expensive and I don't think he will score very well
Chandler - See Cahill
Warner - Was everywhere in the game against the Giants. Looked really good and the spot is there for him.
Henry - Awkward priced and playing deep in the Pies forward line may not be ideal. Could be a decent downgrade option if one of Impey/Daniher/Ziebell flops and he performs.
Fullarton - He may play round 1, but how do you think the Lions are going to go with Hipwood, Daniher and Fullarton all up forward? They're going to provide 0 pressure when the ball hits the ground and are quite top heavy. From a team balance perspective I don't see it lasting all that long.
Jones - Young key forward in a terrible team. No thanks
Evans - Pass. If he does play I don't know how he holds the spot.
Bergman - In my team and is fringe in terms of even getting named.
Rowe - In my side
Waterman - Looks to have fallen out of frame for round 1.

The way I see it is I pay a little extra for the quality cash gen or I get stuck with a bench of crap that's dropped after 2 weeks and lots of 30-40 score slow burn rookies. Worst case the Impey/Dow picks don't work out and I can easily downgrade them with my two correction trades. If they do pan out it is going to be a lot harder for others to bring them in.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Bully on March 17, 2021, 01:43:28 AM
So you are going without Grundy or Gawn?
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on March 17, 2021, 01:53:35 AM
I'll start Gawn and go without Grundy. If the rookie rucks pan out they should be the biggest money makers
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: RoughRed on March 17, 2021, 02:25:09 AM
love the precis on the rooks - pretty hard nosed but fair IMO
Reckon you can sit out Thursdays and Fridays game and make changes if need be before Saturday Start time knowing who will be playing
Thursday Cripps, Dow and Martin affected - zero rooks?
Friday only Macrae? Scott, McNeil and henry as rook?
Saturday hard decisions but 8 teams playing
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Bully on March 17, 2021, 12:31:08 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 17, 2021, 01:53:35 AM
I'll start Gawn and go without Grundy. If the rookie rucks pan out they should be the biggest money makers

Risky but I see the logic. Just gotta hope Briggs doesn't spoil the party.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on March 17, 2021, 03:23:49 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 17, 2021, 12:31:08 PM
Risky but I see the logic. Just gotta hope Briggs doesn't spoil the party.

The reason I feel confident in running with the Flynn/Hunter set up is because Briggs played really well against the Swans and Flynn still got the nod. He appears to be the preferred option. Ryder could also be away from the team for an extended period and I don't see Marshall stepping straight into the ruck role when he does return.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Ringo on March 17, 2021, 04:10:33 PM
Just a note on Fullarton - Both his goals were crumbed in the AAMI and Fagan said good agility for a big man.  Lions have always played 3 talls forward McStay. Hipwood and the resting Ruck so can see that continuing. In saying that Fullarton will be out when McStay back in 3/4 weeks unless he takes the opportunity and makes it hard to be dropped.
Cameron, Zorko. McCarthy and Bailey will crumb.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Bully on March 17, 2021, 04:43:32 PM
Quote from: Ringo on March 17, 2021, 04:10:33 PM
Just a note on Fullarton - Both his goals were crumbed in the AAMI and Fagan said good agility for a big man.  Lions have always played 3 talls forward McStay. Hipwood and the resting Ruck so can see that continuing. In saying that Fullarton will be out when McStay back in 3/4 weeks unless he takes the opportunity and makes it hard to be dropped.
Cameron, Zorko. McCarthy and Bailey will crumb.

I love a former basketballer Ringo, they usually adjust really well.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on March 17, 2021, 04:49:53 PM
I think teams that have lined up too top heavy in years past have been exploited. I don't picture Hipwood as putting on a lot of defensive pressure for a tall. Daniher is in the same boat and doesn't have a defensive bone. The smalls make up for it when it hits the ground but I feel McStay was better in this area and he is far more agile which is why he could play both ends. Fullarton is young and may have the tools but the role is not one that sees big scores. Just looking at the Supercoach scores of the following players

McStay - averaged 62 in 2020 (career high) with 1 score of 98 (R5) and one ton (R17).

Archie Smith - Averaged 40.6, 55 and 45.3 in last 3 seasons. Averaged 79.3 in first season but played as the number 1 ruck in the first 2.

Matt Eagles - Averaged a whopping 17.5 in two games.

Fullarton - Kicked 1.2 and scored 54 in his first game against the Saints. Injured for a 6 in game 2.

Stef Martin - Averaged 50.6 in the hybrid role last year. Was banged up but his top score was a 72 in the last round and not cracking 60 in any other game.

Big O - Averaged 69 in the games listed as a forward with some  big scores in there (132 and 123) and some crap (49, 30, 38 and 48). Averaged 67 the year prior but had some games as first ruck. He is the best performing of the lot.

For comparison, one of the best young KPP prospects in Max King averaged 60.9 last year and didn't crack the ton once. Luke Jackson a 58. The Lions are also playing a handful of really good defensive teams early. The Swans, Cats, Pies and Dogs all decent or elite for points against. 
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on March 17, 2021, 04:52:10 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 17, 2021, 04:43:32 PM
I love a former basketballer Ringo, they usually adjust really well.

He is also 200cm and taller guys generally take longer to adjust.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Bully on March 17, 2021, 05:23:11 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 17, 2021, 04:52:10 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 17, 2021, 04:43:32 PM
I love a former basketballer Ringo, they usually adjust really well.

He is also 200cm and taller guys generally take longer to adjust.

I'll park him on the bench silmilar to Balta a couple of years ago, still made 200k despite the ups and downs.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on March 19, 2021, 02:19:50 AM
Annnd I made a last minute change that backfired. I was tossing up ditching Butts for potentially Harry Sharp in defence if he gets a game. I saw I could afford Mitchell for Dusty and made the move. Dusty has killed it tonight and I ended up moving Sharp to Briggs anyway so it was unnecessary tinkering which hurts.

Dow 60 and Cripps 88 is pretty disappointing considering where they were at at HT. It probably would have helped if the Richmond midfield didn't demolish them at the CB's after HT.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on March 20, 2021, 03:34:05 AM
So team as it stands

Lloyd, Laird, Daniel, Stewart, Clark, Kosi, Highmore, Sharp
Neale, Macrae, Fyfe, Mitchell, Cripps, Taranto, Campbell, Powell, Brockman, Gulden, Scott
Gawn, Flynn, Hunter
Dunkley, Ziebell, Daniher, Impey, Dow, Warner, Bergman, Rowe

Changes I may make last minute are Bergman to Jones if Bergman is not named and Mitchell to Merrett if Mitchell is a late out. I have the cash for both moves if needed. Pretty set with the rest of the side.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on March 21, 2021, 11:14:32 PM
Round 1 over and I have the following

Lloyd, Laird, Daniel, Stewart, Clark, Kosi (Highmore, Sharp)
Neale, Macrae, Fyfe, Mitchell, Cripps, Taranto, Campbell, Powell (Brockman, Gulden, Scott)
Gawn, Flynn (Hunter)
Dunkley, Ziebell, Daniher, Impey, Dow, Warner (Bergman, Rowe)

Total Score: 2096
Overall Rank: 6,247
Total Cash Left: $18,300

Positives: Laird, Daniel, Stewart, Clark, Macrae, Mitchell, Fyfe, Taranto, Flynn, Dunkley, Ziebell, Warner, Scott

Neutral: Lloyd, Kosi, Highmore (bench), Sharp, Cripps, Campbell, Powell, Daniher, Dow, Impey, Hunter

Bad: Neale, Brockman, Gulden (because he was on my bench), Gawn (Captain), Bergman, Rowe (on the bench)

So the real bad things for me were Captain Gawn, Lachie Neale scoring a 77, having my two best rookies on the bench and the scores from Brockman and Bergman. It is easy enough to manipulate a couple of sideways trades if needed by moving Scott forward if needed and turning Brockman/Bergman into Jordan as a worst case scenario. I probably hold my trades for this week since I think I've nailed most of my picks, I just need to field the right rookies and captain choice this week. If I do that I've scored 2280 on the round.

A couple of the last minute changes I made backfired. I was tossing up Daniel, Ridley and Mills. Had Mills in that spot for a while before settling on Daniel since he is one I have liked for the last few years but haven't managed to get into my side. I turned Dusty and Butts into Tom Mitchell and Sharp. I probably can't be too upset about the move overall, but I ended up VC'ing Cripps instead and put the C on Gawn. I still like both guys long term so it's just an unfortunate circumstance right now.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Bully on March 22, 2021, 01:01:51 AM
Good start, I think I got 1 point more than you & I'm pretty happy. Ruck strategy looking great for now, could be decisive if he holds on for 6 weeks & scores well. Grundy on the watchlist this week.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on March 22, 2021, 01:18:35 AM
Quote from: Bully on March 22, 2021, 01:01:51 AM
Good start, I think I got 1 point more than you & I'm pretty happy. Ruck strategy looking great for now, could be decisive if he holds on for 6 weeks & scores well. Grundy on the watchlist this week.

Main thing I was after in the rucks was cash gen.

Hunter is an interesting proposition. The Saints absolutely butchered their rotations. They got down to 5 with 5 minutes left and had Hunter on the bench with McKernan in the ruck. McKernan is bloody awful but they weren't going to sub a ruck back on in wet weather when they needed runners. He finished with 71% TOG and I feel he missed the last 10 minutes of the game.

Going back to Marvel this week and coming up against Gawn probably sees him playing more towards 80% because you can't let McKernan ruck against Gawn. It should see the cash gen start.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Bully on March 22, 2021, 01:47:23 AM
The cash generation slightly tenuous given Ryder could be back sooner rather than later, reckon you need a good 6 weeks.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Ringo on March 22, 2021, 10:40:47 AM
The good thing with Huntee is you can probably downgrade him to Treacy if Ryder returns early and continue cash gain assuming Treacy gets named.

You are a little better off than me I only scored 2031.  Like you had big scores sitting on the bench,
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Telescopic on March 22, 2021, 08:22:25 PM
Great start Mat! You've missed all the carnage! Berry and Gordon the two on you're watchlist probably. Then Dow/Impey the ones on the block?
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on March 22, 2021, 08:44:27 PM
I feel okay with Dow and Impey right now. I think it might be Brockman, Bergman and Scott on the chopping block if needed. Scott could be out for Wood this week which will be handy since I need a loophole option. I'm shocked how crap Brockman's score was considering his stat line seemed good for a 50. Bergman butchered the ball but he may be okay for JS right now with Bonner and Jones injuring themselves.

Impey went from around 49 to 64 really quickly. I think the game tracker may have been busted but he actually had an excellent first quarter. It's his first real full game in a while so he ran out of legs. Same goes with Dow.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Bully on March 22, 2021, 08:52:30 PM
Brockman played well, his 2 goals were pure class, no way he gets dropped.

Scott goes before McNeill but I reckon both might be on the chopping block, can't see JJ missing again.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on March 22, 2021, 09:10:43 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 22, 2021, 08:52:30 PM
Brockman played well, his 2 goals were pure class, no way he gets dropped.

Scott goes before McNeill but I reckon both might be on the chopping block, can't see JJ missing again.

JJ was trash in the VFL. Wood, West and Ugle-Hagan are the threats. Dale was apparently playing down back. They could go McNeil to Wood and move Dale forward.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Bully on March 22, 2021, 09:25:54 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 22, 2021, 09:10:43 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 22, 2021, 08:52:30 PM
Brockman played well, his 2 goals were pure class, no way he gets dropped.

Scott goes before McNeill but I reckon both might be on the chopping block, can't see JJ missing again.

JJ was trash in the VFL. Wood, West and Ugle-Hagan are the threats. Dale was apparently playing down back. They could go McNeil to Wood and move Dale forward.

Think it will be Scott to Wood & perhaps McNeill to West. The only hope for McNeill is the fact Bevo tends to allow some continuity, particularly given they got the 4 points. That small forward role still up for grabs, I picked him for JS in all honesty but 8 clangers & some god awful decision making puts him under severe threat.

Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on March 22, 2021, 09:30:22 PM
I didn't watch the game so I can't comment on performance, I just know the Dogs really rate Scott. He has come through their VFL program and I believe was named the captain before he got a shot in the AFL team. Clubs generally aren't keen to mess with a winning formula so it's a wait and see. Worst case scenario is both get dropped and are named emergency/sub. That will cause some chaos
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on March 29, 2021, 12:57:11 AM
Round 2

Lloyd, Laird, Daniel, Stewart, Clark, Highmore (Kosi, Sharp)
Neale, Macrae, Fyfe, Mitchell, Cripps, Taranto, Gulden, Powell (Brockman, Campbell, Scott)
Gawn, Flynn (Hunter)
Dunkley, Ziebell, Daniher, Impey, Dow, Warner (Bergman, Rowe)

Round Score: 2210
Overall Rank: 6796
Total Cash Left: $18,300

Positives: Lloyd, Laird, Highmore, Macrae, Mitchell, Gawn captain. Dunkley, Gulden, Flynn, Impey, Warner, Brockman, Powell
Neutral: Stewart, Clark, Daniher, Ziebell, Dow, Bergman, Rowe (on bench but cash gen killed)
Bad/Disappointments: Daniel, Cripps, Neale. Taranto, Fyfe (concussed), Kosi, Sharp, Hunter, Scott, Campbell on the bench

I'm at a bit of a loss what to do. Fyfe played forward the whole game before getting concussed in the third quarter. He now misses against Carlton (a team he has routinely destroyed) but hopefully when he comes back he should be able to move into the midfield again with Walters and Treacy in the side. He is a hold right now.

No idea what happened in the Dogs game but Daniel must have had some awful clangers. to finish on what he did. That hurts because I was tossing up him, Ridley and Mills with the other two scoring better.

Taranto started the first quarter with a bang and then completely disappeared. I missed the majority of the games this weekend so if anyone can shed some light on what the f happened here it would be appreciated. The score stings based off how he went last week.

Hunter looks like he is for the bin. I know he went up against Gawn but the scores have been atrocious. Same goes for Scott and Sharp.

Cripps spent basically the entire third quarter in the forward line and only started to score again when he pushed onto the ball late. Carlton have no idea how to use their midfield rotation right now and it's hurting them all. Dow falls into this basket as well and I was looking to trade these two before Friday night happened.

Daniher was looking for the scrap heap before he salvaged his score. However Lachie Neale is a whole other story. Back to back 70's at 700k is a complete failure. He hasn't handled the tag/attention at all. At his price I'm thinking it might be worth trading before he takes a dip and then bringing him back in later when he inevitably drops.

So of the guys I don't have these are probably the ones worth looking at

1. Jordon - Looks to be scoring surprisingly well and should be in there for a while with Harmes out
2. Tex Walker - Talk about a potential cash gen goldmine.
3. Clayton Oliver - Has killed it the first two rounds and is shaping as a must have.
4. Ridley - Another must have down back. Essendon suck so the ball is going to be down his end.a lot.
5. Heeney - Proven as a scorer in past years and has had back to back tons
6. Butters - Was spoken about as a breakout contender and may have just had his signature game on the weekend.

Any suggestions on which way I should go. In a way I'm leaning towards Neale>Jordon and Scott>Walker using Campbell. I can make as much cash as quickly as possible and then start upgrading. Although I feel it's a waste of a trade since I'm turning a keeper into stepping stone essentially.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on March 29, 2021, 01:08:22 AM
I forgot to add Dusty tot he list.

7. Dusty - He is a high deviation player but he will be a lock for the top handful of forwards.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Bully on March 29, 2021, 02:46:13 AM
Neale to Dusty, Dow to Jordon.

Swing Campbell to the forwards I reckon.

That leaves a decent war chest to get Oliver in a couple of weeks.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on March 29, 2021, 12:44:24 PM
Swap Dow with Scott and it's currently what I have. Left me with 177k
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Bully on March 29, 2021, 02:37:01 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 29, 2021, 12:44:24 PM
Swap Dow with Scott and it's currently what I have. Left me with 177k

Still looks good from my perspective, when Dusty has parity with Neale you will be in a strong position.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on April 02, 2021, 01:08:53 AM
Ended up going with Neale to Ridley and Sharp to Jordon. It allowed me to cull my dead weight rookie in Sharp and bring in a keeper. I can always bring back Sharp at a later point if he comes back and has an okay third game but with Scott getting named with JJ and Wood in the side I think he will get a decent crack. He will also make a little bit of coin this week which is a positive. Same goes for Dow.

Rookies on the chopping block in coming weeks are Bergman, Hunter, Scott, Kosi and Dow. The rest seem to be in an okay situation.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Bully on April 02, 2021, 01:22:33 AM
Any decent downgrade targets? That's my major concern at this point.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on April 02, 2021, 01:40:43 AM
Quote from: Bully on April 02, 2021, 01:22:33 AM
Any decent downgrade targets? That's my major concern at this point.

Robertson, Waterman, Perkins, Phillips, Treacy and Parks will all probably be available in about a fortnight as downgrades. I have Dow and a couple more 200k options that would net a ton of cash in these trades. Particularly to Parks/Treacy/Waterman 102k types.

Downie should hopefully be available soon.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on April 03, 2021, 08:14:31 PM
Neale to Ridley has been an excellent trade so far. Especially with Highmore getting dropped
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Bully on April 03, 2021, 08:28:34 PM
Yes mate, Cripps to Ridley may turn out to be my best trade this year. Will be 600k very soon & potentially very difficult to get in.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: coglan13 on April 04, 2021, 01:06:59 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on April 02, 2021, 01:08:53 AM
Ended up going with Neale to Ridley and Sharp to Jordon. It allowed me to cull my dead weight rookie in Sharp and bring in a keeper. I can always bring back Sharp at a later point if he comes back and has an okay third game but with Scott getting named with JJ and Wood in the side I think he will get a decent crack. He will also make a little bit of coin this week which is a positive. Same goes for Dow.

Rookies on the chopping block in coming weeks are Bergman, Hunter, Scott, Kosi and Dow. The rest seem to be in an okay situation.

Hunter being dropped means he is now 4th choice. Martial might be available next week, Ryder is back at the club, and McKernan and Carlisle did the rucking this round. I think he has to go now.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on April 04, 2021, 01:45:05 PM
Considering I don't have a loophole I'm happy to hold him until Treacy is on the bubble. It would have been nice to have Meek instead but that's not an option considering he will get a price rise this week and he also has questionable security
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Bully on April 04, 2021, 02:52:14 PM
So what are your feelings about Tex? He's the top forward after 3 rounds & should tear the North defence apart, -35 BE & is on track to hit 500k. Worth a stab or just wait for Danger, Zorko etc.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on April 04, 2021, 04:13:36 PM
I've got the cash but the only way I can do it is to swap Taranto/Cripps. Neither will lose cash, but I don't want to be sideways trading guys this early unless it's going to fix structural issues. I feel this week was the week to grab Tex and the ship may have sailed.

I've seen signs from both Cripps and Taranto that could result in them being keepers, role may be the issue right now for both. If I do make the move I can always go Taranto to Tex and Crippa to a mid premium with the cash I have available. I would have burnt through 4 of my 30 trades already for no net gain which would sting. The only reason to bring Tex in at this point is if you think he is a keeper.

So is Tex a keeper? Potentially. He won't average 130 on the year and will have a few low scores at some point, but I'm a little underwhelmed by some of the forward premiums. I broke it down in another thread but I feel this will be the structure of a lot of teams

Tier 1 (proven elite)

Dunks
Dusty
Danger

Tier 2 (second tier elite)

Zorko
Hawkins

Tier 3 (bounceback/breakout)

Butters
Heeney
JZ
Tex

Tier 4 (injured/role change)

Sidebottom
Marshall
Walters
Greene

Most teams will have all three of tier 1, 1 from tier two, one from tier three and one from tier 4. There may be a couple other guys that go on a run that scream must have later in the year. You can get away with him at F5/F6 if he averages 85-90 the rest of the way
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on April 04, 2021, 07:06:40 PM
Dow to Waterman next week. Pocket the cash. Parks looked okay but it's Marchbank's spot who isn't far off. Robertson the week after
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on April 05, 2021, 08:22:00 PM
Round 3

Lloyd, Laird, Ridley, Daniel, Stewart, Clark (Kosi, Highmore)
Macrae, Mitchell, Cripps, Taranto, Dow, Campbell, Gulden, Jordon (Powell, Fyfe, Scott)
Gawn, Flynn (Hunter)
Dunkley, Ziebell, Daniher, Impey, Warner, Rowe (Bergman, Brockman)

Round Score: 2264
Overall Rank: 3,159
Total Cash Left: $185,800

Positives: Daniher, Ziebell, Dunkley, Lloyd, Warner, Gulden, Ridley, Cripps, Gawn (C), Taranto, Flynn, Impey, Clark, Scott (bench)

Neutral: Macrae, Daniel, Laird, Stewart, Mitchell, Powell (bench)

Negatives: Rowe, Campbell, Dow, Jordon, Kosi, Brockman

A lot more positives this week. Bounce back games from Cripps and Taranto, Gawn captain and Neale out to Ridley were probably the highlights. Macrae was serviceable and could have had a great score if he wasn't caught on the bench in the third. Daniel, Laird and Stewart all scored in the 90's which was good without being wowing. Mitchell copped the heavy tag and scored about 89 which I can live with. He also got caught on the bench in the third quarter so he may have scored a little more.

The rookies are a nightmare. Rowe with a 40, Campbell, Dow, Kosi and Brockman all in the 20's, Jordon I traded in this week and copped the 40.

I get Fyfe back next week. That could be huge as I'm up a prem compared to this week. I'm pretty confident I will turn Dow into one of Chapman or Waterman next week. I need to figure out if I go a week early on Waterman and which rookies may require an early cull. There appears to be a few options for a double down next week as well before I start looking at a double up the week after that.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Colliwobblers on April 05, 2021, 11:04:27 PM
Good score good rank, doing nicely. With Fyfe on the bench !

Dow  :-X

Everyone in the same boat with rookies, and everyone would have had campbell and jordon on the field also.

Not your first rodeo, don't panic I guess. hard to ride dud rooks and it will end a lot of SC seasons chasing better/playing rooks.

Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on April 06, 2021, 01:55:17 AM
Yeah Dow is the dog. He only made 9k to top it off so what a dud pick in the end. His midfield time completely disappeared this week and he just doesn't hunt the ball in kick mark scenarios.  He was stiffed a little but even at a 40 he was a trade this week.

I feel my team is looking okay with the cash I have in the bank.

There are a couple of upgrade targets I have identified that I want, it is going to be tricky to bring them in unless I have rookies pushing 300-400k which will probably be about 4 weeks away. If Daniher, Impey and Gulden can keep it up it should be an easy swap. Some of the guys I am looking at

Defence - Ryan, Houston, Doc, Mills, Williams, Hurn, Rich and Luke McDonald are all in the running for my last spot

Midfield - Oliver, Steele, Guthrie, Brayshaw, Merrett, Neale, Petracca and Gaff

Rucks - Grundy

Forwards - Dusty, Danger, Zorko, Hawkins, Sidebottom and Marshall
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on April 12, 2021, 03:10:29 PM
Round 4

Lloyd, Laird, Ridley, Daniel, Stewart, Chapman (Kosi, Highmore)
Macrae, Mitchell, Fyfe, Cripps, Taranto, Clark, Gulden, Jordon (Powell, Brockman, Scott)
Gawn, Flynn (Meek)
Dunkley, Ziebell, Daniher, Impey, Warner, Campbell (Bergman, Rowe)

Round Score: 2074
Overall Rank: 4,317
Total Cash Left: $173,700

Positives: Ridley, Laird, Stewart, Chapman, Macrae (C), Fyfe, Mitchell, Gulden, Gawn, Dunkley, Ziebell, Impey, Warner

Neutral: Lloyd, Cripps, Taranto, Clark, Rowe (bench), Powell (bench), Campbell, Brockman

Negatives: Daniel, Jordon, Daniher, Scott, Hunter>Meek

This week was a freaking mess. It started with Flynn out and a potential donut in the ruck. I had two choices and settled on Meek over Treacy. I had a look at the ruck split between Meek and Darcy and found they preferred Meek in the ruck. I figured if I could pocket 80k over two weeks and then downgrade to Treacy later it may have been worth the trade. Then Meek spent 50% TOG, Darcy dominated, he put up a 30 and only made 30k. Absolutely horrid trade against my better judgement and feels like a pretty big waste. I was better off copping the donut.

Daniel has been a crapshow and the suspension at least allows me to trade him out. He has lost me about 80k and seems to be without a position which is even worse. The Dogs prefer a combo of Dale, Wood, JJ and Williams launching their attacks out of the backline and he was thrown into the forward line after HT.

Jordon was a waste of a trade. I was contemplating Tex and figured Jordon will make at least 150k. His cash gen has completely stalled and it wouldn't shock me if he is out of the team.

Jordan Clark also getting thrown deep into the forward line was horrendous for his scoring. To add to the pain Taranto had 10 clangers and Cripps got ripped off a 110+ score magically losing 10 points at HT.

I have a few options this week and I think I'm going the aggressive route. Daniel is out. I could turn him into Jones and bypass Waterman. I then look at either Danger in the forward line or Lyons in the middle as a POD.

If Flynn doesn't get named and Meek is dropped I'll have to look at Grundy and fix my ruck line.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Colliwobblers on April 12, 2021, 04:12:44 PM
i had a shocker too mate about the same score. gruny C over gawn, daniels daniher and a couple spud rooks onfield....

could be worth sorting the rucks with the luxury of daniels $$ never going to be an easy trade to get done

jones looks safe for awhile in the port side.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Bully on April 12, 2021, 08:35:17 PM
Not a terrible score under the circumstances, Grundy needs to be your first upgrade however.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on April 16, 2021, 01:14:46 AM
I was tossing up Steele, Oliver or Danger for an upgrade this week. I ended up passing on Steele and I'm waiting to see team announcements tomorrow.

My gut said to trade Jordon to Waterman but Goodwin came out and backed him this week. He also said that due to the May injury they swung the team around and it hurt Jordon. I still don't think he will average all that well but he may make some more cash. I'm still unsure who I downgrade for Waterman and it's now Oliver vs Danger with my gut saying Danger will tear North to shreds.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on April 18, 2021, 10:30:59 PM
Round 5

Lloyd, Laird, Ridley, Stewart, Chapman, Kosi (Clark, Highmore)
Macrae(C), Mitchell, Fyfe, Cripps, Taranto, Powell, Campbell Gulden (Jordon, Brockman, Scott)
Gawn, Grundy (Flynn)
Dunkley, Ziebell, Daniher, Impey, Warner, Bergman (Waterman, Rowe)

Round Score: 2252
Overall Rank: 3,153
Total Cash Left: $103,700

Positives: Stewart, Kosi, Macrae, Fyfe, Powell, Gulden, Gawn, Grundy, Dunkley, Ziebell, Daniher, Bergman, Scott (bench), Rowe (bench), Jordon (bench)

Neutral: Lloyd, Laird, Chapman, Cripps, Taranto, Warner

Negatives: Ridley, Campbell, Mitchell, Waterman

So there is more good than bad. I had to trade Daniel to Grundy to avoid the donut. The other option I was tossing up was Hickey and he injured his PCL so I lucked out there. I'm probably being harsh on Lloyd and Laird but both were below their averages this week.

Mitchell is getting about 30 touches a game but it's not converting to points. He has dropped in cash significantly so those that started without him appear to be the winners right now. The clanger numbers appeared to hurt him today.

Cripps and Taranto are becoming victims of circumstance and it's hurting my team. Cripps will come out, absolutely dominate and then have a quarter where he disappears. This week in the second he copped a free against that resulted in a 50 and goal to Port. It absolutely killed all the work he did that quarter and the chance at a ton. His DT has also been higher than his SC which is not the norm. The glimpses that he can rip a game apart are still there but it's not happening over 4 quarters.

Taranto seems to be following a similar script. 11 clangers last week killed his score and this week it was his disappearing act in the 2nd quarter.

The backline is going to be the trick this week. If Highmore doesn't return I may be facing a donut. I was pretty set on Clark>Jones but Jones looks a bit battered and may need a rest. Hopefully the 8 day break is enough for him to get up.

The trades I am considering this week

Clark>Jones as mentioned earlier
Gulden/Warner>Walsh

Gulden, Campbell and Warner may all be close to topping out. Walsh is the most undervalued mid right now based off points to price. I wasn't sold on Walsh heading into the season and felt he would be more of a DT option since he can turn it over but his scoring this year has been ridiculous. It leaves me with about 20k/5k in the bank depending which one I trade out of Warner or Gulden
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Bully on April 18, 2021, 11:58:46 PM
I'll probably cut Gulden this week, think he's settled into a scoring pattern and it's clearly on the decline. BE of 51 very achievable but cash is king right now.

I'm probably bringing in a mid, toss up between Walsh & Neale. I like Walsh but the Curnow tag aside I think Neale is the one who can make you pay if you don't have him.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on April 19, 2021, 12:35:46 AM
If you can afford Neale it might be the time to bring him in. For 560k I don't think I'm going to get much better than Walsh since I already have Titch.

Gulden's scoring appears to have settled into the 60's range. The reason I am thinking Warner is Rowbottom. He appears to be fit having played VFL and will chew into those CB's. Both should hit their BE's but I don't know how much more cash they will make
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: RoughRed on April 19, 2021, 04:28:25 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 18, 2021, 11:58:46 PM
I'll probably cut Gulden this week, think he's settled into a scoring pattern and it's clearly on the decline. BE of 51 very achievable but cash is king right now.

I'm probably bringing in a mid, toss up between Walsh & Neale. I like Walsh but the Curnow tag aside I think Neale is the one who can make you pay if you don't have him.
If I had a functioning backline I would be taking Neale (already have Walsh)
IMO Neale will be moving into some serious SC scores over the next weeks
I think the Lions know they need to protect him, and are working on that, plus he was moving so much better so maybe the back issue is resolved
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Bully on April 19, 2021, 05:11:45 PM
Quote from: RoughRed on April 19, 2021, 04:28:25 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 18, 2021, 11:58:46 PM
I'll probably cut Gulden this week, think he's settled into a scoring pattern and it's clearly on the decline. BE of 51 very achievable but cash is king right now.

I'm probably bringing in a mid, toss up between Walsh & Neale. I like Walsh but the Curnow tag aside I think Neale is the one who can make you pay if you don't have him.
If I had a functioning backline I would be taking Neale (already have Walsh)
IMO Neale will be moving into some serious SC scores over the next weeks
I think the Lions know they need to protect him, and are working on that, plus he was moving so much better so maybe the back issue is resolved

I'm a bit torn actually, Neale scored 140 last time he played Carlton but the vibe is Curnow will get the job done. What do you reckon?
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Colliwobblers on April 19, 2021, 10:56:44 PM
Great round!, I'd be neale over anyone,  but walsh is value as you say.

Clark to jones goes without saying, wish i did it a week earlier. i don't even like donuts, taste like s#i7
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on April 20, 2021, 01:08:33 AM
If I trade Gulden I can't afford Neale. If I trade Warner I can.

I already started with Neale and I can still taste the crap he dished up to start the season. I'm inclined to see how he goes against Curnow before I break the bank for him. I have a way I can sneak him in next week if he does go off anyway.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Ringo on April 20, 2021, 08:52:29 AM
Hard decisions with Port and Saints playing last game to see if Jones named.  If Clarke is named on Friday night I would probably hold as surely Highmore comes in this week. Neale has a B/E of 98 so even if he kills it if Curnow does not tag effectively and goes 140 only a 21k increase which you can cover next week as you say.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: coglan13 on April 21, 2021, 07:36:55 AM
Highmore has not even been in the emergencies the last 2 weeks, highly doubt he comes back in.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Bully on April 21, 2021, 09:37:11 AM
Quote from: coglan13 on April 21, 2021, 07:36:55 AM
Highmore has not even been in the emergencies the last 2 weeks, highly doubt he comes back in.

Who replaces Webster?
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on April 21, 2021, 12:09:01 PM
Ben Long
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on April 23, 2021, 01:04:20 AM
What rookies are worth grabbing this week with Jones out?

I was planning to grab Walsh as an upgrade but I may need to change my plans up.

If I grab a defensive rookie my options are Mansell or Prior. I would then have to field one of those two with a combination of Chapman, Kosi and Donut Highmore at D5/D6 which could be catastrophic.

Mid rookies we have  Dev Robertson on the bubble but he is expensive and probably won't play this week. Giro is around the 170k mark but is a vest candidate every fortnight and is currently out of the side. Otherwise it's go a week early on Macrae? I would rather have Macrae as an option next week if possible and not go early.

Forwards we have Jones (gross), Langdon (gross), McCreery (bleh), Stone (bleh), Tom Campbell (double gross) and Treacy (is it possible to lose cash as a 102k rookie?)

I can hide the mid rookie pretty easily. The forward rookie I would have to filed 2 of Bergman, Rowe, Waterman and whatever rookie comes in which isn't awful but not great.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on April 23, 2021, 06:19:03 PM
I've been tossing up my options and this is what I have come up with

Option 1

(https://i.imgur.com/ZSxCWSA.jpg)

Warner to Macrae/McCreery and Clark into Luke Ryan. It has a good balance of rookies across all my lines and I still pocket 50k.

Option 2 and 3

(https://i.imgur.com/t6ynRN7.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/WOAs616.jpg)

Clark to Mansell and Warner to Walsh/Oliver. I would have to field one of Mansell or Kosi at D6 indefinitely which could be messy.

Option 4

(https://i.imgur.com/X4AN2Vl.jpg)

Hold Clark if he plays and get rid of both Sydney rookies to grab Walsh/Oliver. Probably the one I'm not really too keen on

Option 5

(https://i.imgur.com/kqTC06L.jpg)

Campbell to McCreery and Clark to Bowes. It should hopefully leave me enough cash to go Warner>Macrae and Gulden>Walsh next week.



Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Bully on April 23, 2021, 06:25:06 PM
I like the Ryan pick, reckon there's a fair chance 1 of Kosi or Highmore will get named, picking which one a toss of the coin.

Exposing D6 not such a great move unless Highmore cements a spot & we don't even know if he will get a chance. Webster 50/50 at this stage.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on April 23, 2021, 06:31:21 PM
Kosi will play, it's the fact that I have to roll with one of Kosi/Highmore/Mansell at D6 for probably the next 3 weeks which is a worry.

I'm liking option 5 since Campbell is now officially out.  I could also swap in Short, Doc, Lever, Hunter Clark, Williams, Maynard and Crisp. Of those guys I like Doc and Bowes the most for the price point. Maynard will likely kill it with Howe now out but it's only a short term move in that case.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Bully on April 23, 2021, 06:46:28 PM
I prefer Docherty over Bowes personally.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on April 23, 2021, 10:54:28 PM
Well with Dunkley injured I'll probably have to trade him. I can turn him into Dusty and pocket about 100k with that one move which is nice.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Bully on April 23, 2021, 11:21:58 PM
It's actually a good money making opportunity, even with Neale who should be affordable.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: RoughRed on April 23, 2021, 11:24:29 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 23, 2021, 06:46:28 PM
I prefer Docherty over Bowes personally.
Ditto, was lucky to be at MCG to  see the sad game Carlton v Port last week
Dock was very good ...
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on April 24, 2021, 12:24:24 AM
Thanks guys, I think I've talked myself into Doc.

I'm churning through the trades faster than I would have liked. I have 22 trades and 7 upgrades left. I've checked my bye structure as well since I've put no thought into it and this is what I have so far and it actually looks pretty solid. Of the keepers in my side right now I have the following guys out

Round 12

1/2/0/2

Round 13

2/2/0/1

Round 14

2/1/2/0

(https://i.imgur.com/4p1bmjs.jpg)

Next week I'll go Dusty to Dunkley and pocket the cash. I'll also turn one of Gulden/Warner into Macrae to leave me with a ton of cash in the bank.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on April 26, 2021, 10:39:07 PM
Round 6

(https://i.imgur.com/4p1bmjs.jpg)

Round Score: 2321
Overall Rank: 2,038
Total Cash Left: $13,600

Positives: Lloyd, Stewart, Laird, Doc, Kosi, Macrae (C), Fyfe, Taranto, Powell, Jordon (bench), Grundy, Gawn, Flynn (bench), Ziebell, Impey, Daniher, Warner, Scott (bench)

Neutral: McCreery (bench), Bergman

Negatives: Dunkley (injured), Chapman, Cripps, Gulden, Rowe

With such little cash available I'm a little stuck on what to do. Dunkley to a prem is trade one. I'm not really keen on any of the rookies this week and don't know if I want to go early on Flash from Port. I might just settle for Macrae and sit him on my mid bench.

In terms of what premiums I am looking at this week. I can go with either Walsh or Sidebottom. Sidebottom will give me an extra 100k to play with next week but he doesn't give me enough to upgrade Gulden to anyone of relevance this week. I think I'll just grab Walsh.

Next week is tricky, I have a handful of guys who will feel ripe for the picking but I don't know who to grab or how. If I don't grab Sidey this week next week would be a nice opportunity to grab him for perhaps Rowe, Warner or Daniher. There is also Tomahawk if he has another good game this week with Cameron in the side, Zorko and Marshall.

Down back I have Houston as target number 1 along with the potential downgrade option of Flash. Chapman is close to his peak price and that will probably be the ideal time to cut him.

The midfield can probably wait but Guthrie, Lyons, Steele and Oliver are the 4 guys that intrigue me the most.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Ringo on April 27, 2021, 01:58:31 PM
Not interested in Steele or Oliver for Dunkley.  Would give you another one of the Top 3 mids at this stage.

Like you wish I had taken Walsh over Cripps.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on April 27, 2021, 02:54:38 PM
Steele will cost me coin. Oliver and Walsh I am tossing up. Walsh I wanted last week but considering there isn't much difference between the two now maybe Oliver.

Have we heard what's going on with the Dees vs North game yet?
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Ringo on April 27, 2021, 03:00:57 PM
Have not heard anything as yet.  Suspect probably tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on April 29, 2021, 09:19:48 PM
I'm thinking these are my possible options

Dunkley and Gulden to a combo of the following

Oliver/Macrae and 234k
Walsh/Macrae and 250k
Oliver/Robertson and 135k
Walsh/Robertson and 150k

I thought if I grabbed Brayshaw I may be able to do a double upgrade this week. If I go with Brayshaw the best forward I can afford is Bolton. He has been in pretty good form the last 3 weeks with scores of 110, 110 and 99. He scored a 29 the week before that which is puke worthy.

I could also go Brayshaw and a combo of Robertson/252k, Macrae/351k or May/70k. Ideally I would want Houston at D6 so I prefer to wait a week instead of grab May.

The last option is go a week early on Fredrick but that could really backfire if Highmore doesn't play. Since Macrae looks like a real slow burn I don't think I'm too fussed if I miss him. Plus already have McCreery and Poulter being another possible rookie option the Pies rookies could burn down the road.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on April 30, 2021, 07:24:38 PM
I'm thinking Walsh and Robertson wins out. This will help set up my trades next week. The plan for next week is to go Chapman to Flash and probably Rowe to Houston using Robertson and Laird's DPP.  To do that the extra 15k between Walsh and Oliver could be critical.

Why not just grab Macrae and solve my cash issues? The idea is I can comfortably field Dev Robertson at F5 next week in place of Rowe with Waterman and McCreery on the bench. I will likely gain more points and hopefully more cash by going this route to help finish off my other lines.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on May 03, 2021, 02:52:48 PM
So this week was fun

Round 7

Stewart, Lloyd, Ridley, Doc, Laird, Chapman (Kosi, Highmore)
Macrae, Walsh, Fyfe, Mitchell, Taranto, Cripps, Powell, Jordan (Robertson, Scott, Brockman)
Gawn (C), Grundy (Flynn)
Ziebell, Impey, Daniher, Warner, Rowe, Bergman (McCreery, Waterman)

Round Score: 2062
Overall Rank: 1,745
Total Cash Left: $150,400

Positives: Stewart, Lloyd, Walsh, Taranto, Jordon, Powell, Grundy, Ziebell, Daniher, Robertson (bench), McCreery (bench), Kosi (bench), Scott (bench)

Neutral: Doc, Ridley, Macrae, Mitchell, Fyfe, Warner, Impey

Negatives: Laird, Cripps, Chapman, Rowe

Disaster: Gawn Captain

So the Gawn captain was a double whammy. I set the over under for the captains choice at 130. That game ends and Grundy is sitting on 129. It felt a little low and the scores had been a bit bonkers over the whole weekend but I had to make the call then and there if I went with Grundy and thought Gawn would smash the 129 based off his past scores against North.

The Saints vs Hawks game starts and all of a sudden Grundy is on 144. My only other loophole option was potentially Waterman. I had to wait for the teams to be released before I could take the risk with Waterman as my C and get McCreery's score over Bergman. The AFL app has a fit and I can't see the emergencies until that nights games had already started and Bergman was already playing. It was an absolute disaster but I guess the positive is a lot of people were in the same boat. Having said that, it would have given me a nice leg up to have just taken the 129 in that situation considering how Gawn crashed and burned.

So what do I do this week? The initial plan was to get Houston but he had an absolute stinker and will continue to bleed cash. The two players I will be trading out this week are Chapman and Rowe. I have a couple options I can run with.

Chapman>Fredrick is locked. This will give me 277k to play with.

Who I turn Rowe into is the question mark. I could go Rowe to any forward not named Marshall.

I can grab Brayshaw in the midfield but I would have to sit one of Powell/Jordon on the bench.

I could also look at maybe Bowes/May down back or still go with Houston even though he will bleed cash for another fortnight.

I think the week after I have to get rid of Cripps. He has become an anchor in my midfield.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Bully on May 03, 2021, 03:44:38 PM
Still humming along nicely, I'd definitely look at getting Rowe off the field. Some decent value with Zorko, Sidey & Bolton.

Next week RCD could come in for Jordan & Powell could go up to a Guthrie/Steele.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Ringo on May 03, 2021, 03:57:32 PM
Could look at Rowe to Bolton Take out his 29 and he is averaging 102.  Nut either Sidey or Zorko not bad options either.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on May 03, 2021, 04:12:50 PM
Funnily enough I actually have Bolton in my team right now. The 29 could be an aberration and he appears to be the barometer for the Tigers. His scoring was pretty putrid early in that game but he turned it around along with the team. He has the same bye as Zorko and Dusty so it's not a back breaker. Dusty will probably be ripe in a fortnight and Zorko right after his bye.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on May 07, 2021, 07:49:57 PM
I had a couple options but I'm holding with the trade but Murphy in place of Fredrick. Next week RCD in for my worst performing rookie. Maybe Cripps to a legit gun. I'm going to hold off jumping early on a rookie and burning myself.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on May 09, 2021, 11:53:59 PM
Round 8

Stewart, Lloyd, Ridley, Doc, Laird, Murphy (Kosi, Highmore)
Macrae (C), Walsh, Fyfe, Mitchell, Taranto, Cripps, Powell, Jordan (Robertson, Scott, Brockman)
Gawn, Grundy (Flynn)
Ziebell, Impey, Bolton, Daniher, Warner, Bergman (McCreery, Waterman)

Round Score: 2316
Overall Rank: 1,023
Total Cash Left: $31,600

Positives: Lloyd, Doc, Laird, Fyfe, Mitchell, Taranto, Powell, Jordon, Grundy, Ziebell, Bolton, Impey, Daniher, Bergman, Scott (bench)

Neutral: Stewart, Ridley, Murphy, Gawn, Macrae (C)

Negatives: Kosi (bench), Cripps, Robertson (bench), McCreery (bench)

I ended up just swapping Fredrick for Murphy in the end. One thing I was considering (and hindsight says it was the right move) was to go early on RCD and turn Cripps into Lyons this week. Instead I backed my plan of trying to turn Cripps into Houston this week and pocket the cash in the RCD trade. Now Murphy has been concussed, Cripps stunk it up after a hot start and Houston is injured.

So the plan for this week?

I can still turn Warner into a rookie and field one of Poulter, Robertson and Scott while upgrading Cripps to Lyons.

Option 2 is maybe offloading Robertson since he had a stinker, hold Warner and offload Cripps.

Option 3 is downgrading both Warner and Robertson and pocketing the cash.

Option 4 is maybe try and upgrade Kosi and hold one of Warner/Robertson.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Ringo on May 10, 2021, 08:16:37 AM
Much better than me Matt.

I would look at Option 2 - Robertson may be dropped - Coleman is knocking on the door and was medical sub this week. Josh Kelly could be a nice replacement for Cripps.  I traded Cripps last week and at half time was regretting it but as you say stunk up after that,
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Bully on May 10, 2021, 10:42:17 AM
Next week Steele looks like a top buy, probably more bang for the buck than Lyons. Doubling down not such a bad move.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on May 10, 2021, 07:07:53 PM
I'm not going near Josh Kelly. He has burnt me in the past and will be bound to miss games at the most inopportune times. Plus I don't know where he will play from week to week.

Lyons I have been chasing for a while but after the Bolton news I'm thinking double downgrade. I just need to work out which players to downgrade
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Ringo on May 10, 2021, 07:11:50 PM
Fair comment Matt -  probably need to wait for teams and that may decide for you/
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on May 16, 2021, 09:34:37 PM
Round 9

Stewart, Lloyd, Ridley, Doc, Laird, Kosi (Murphy, Highmore)
Macrae, Lyons, Walsh, Fyfe, Mitchell, Taranto, Powell, Jordan (Bolton, Scott, Brockman)
Gawn, Grundy (Flynn)
Ziebell, Impey, Daniher, Robertson, Bergman, Poulter (McCreery, Waterman)

Round Score: 2157
Overall Rank: 1,220
Total Cash Left: $50,900

Positives: Lloyd, Stewart, Doc, Laird, Ridley, Kosi, Lyons, Macrae, Walsh, Jordon, Scott (bench), Daniher, Robertson, Poulter, Flynn (bench)

Neutral: Highmore, Taranto, Fyfe, Grundy, Gawn (C), Ziebell, Impey, Bergman

Negatives: McCreery (bench), Mitchell, Powell

Poulter ended up being a decent trade in for Warner this week. Lyons was an instant upgrade over Cripps so tick tick. It sucks I missed on RCD and Powell is now topped out with no downgrade options on the horizon.

Other rookies that are likely close to their peak include Robertson, Bergman, Kois and Scott. A couple of options I'm tossing up this week

Powell and Bergman>RCD and Zorko with $5,100 in the bank

Flynn and Powell>Bryan and Guthrie with $2,100 in the bank

Flynn and Powell>Bryan and Steele with $50,100 in the bank

Powell and Kosi>Jones and Mills/Rich/Salem and $3,000-$25,000 in the bank.

Otherwise I can do Powell and Kosi to RCD and a Blake Hardwick/Daniel although I don't really want Daniel since he burnt me. Part if it also depends on if I think RCD is still worth jumping on late after missing the first 50k. Brisbane and Adelaide in the next two games makes it interesting.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on May 16, 2021, 09:47:13 PM
Just having a quick look at my potential trades and future weeks. I think I'm leaning towards Powell and Bergman to RCD and Zorko. It gives me a solid bench rookie heading into the bye weeks and Zorko has DPP allowing me to cover multiple spots. The week after I can do a Daniher to Dusty trade and make money which is a bonus. I can also turn Flynn into Bryan and go hard in the 1st bye week with all my Flynn money to grab a couple of premium players.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Bully on May 16, 2021, 09:52:10 PM
Just curious to know why you are targeting Bryan & not Treacy?
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on May 16, 2021, 10:09:48 PM
Quote from: Bully on May 16, 2021, 09:52:10 PM
Just curious to know why you are targeting Bryan & not Treacy?

The theory behind the Treacy pick was to grab Marshall for ruck cover. With Marshall no longer an option in my eyes I want to pick a ruck that I feel has the best chance of playing from now to the end of the season. Sauce is nothing more than a bridge ruck and Bryan is coming off a BOG in the VFL and will push for selection. If he comes into the team this week that will be game 2 and he is ripe for the picking the week after on the bubble. Essendon are looking to get youth into their side and blood these guys this year, so with Draper out at least a month and injury prone himself I feel Bryan represents good value as not only a positive gain rookie but also potential bench coverage.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on May 19, 2021, 12:10:51 AM
I didn't realise Dusty's BE is so low and Daniher's is actually around 80. Of my available rookies, these are their BE's

Kosi - 59
Highmore - -24
Murphy - -12
Powell - 106
Jordon - 34
Scott - 29
Brockman - 30
Flynn - 16
Daniher - 80
Robertson - 59
Bergman - 42
Poulter - -43
McCreery - 46
Waterman - 6

Of those rookies, Brockman, Waterman and McCreery haven't made enough cash to trade yet. Poulter, Highmore, Jordon, Scott, Flynn and Murphy all have low to negative BE's. That leaves Bergman, Daniher, Kosi and Robertson as the trade bait this week.

Looking at projected price gains, Daniher has about 20k left in the next 3 weeks at his average with a 7.6k gain this round. Daniher would likely be traded out next week before his 8k expected price rise. He does get the Tigers this week and we saw that key forwards can get a hold of them. If he gets the Balta matchup it will probably be a little tougher.

Dev Robertson is expected to gain 15k with only a 1k price rise this week. The 44 comes out of his average and gives him a small boost in his cash gen.

Bergman has an expected 13k price rise at his average with 8.7k expected this week. He was my original choice to cull and his cash gen has pretty much stalled post this week. The question is do I take a shot at him having a decent score against the Pies and maybe getting a couple of nice rises before his bye?

Kosi has a 20k price rise leading into his bye and could also be a pretty solid D6 option with games against the Blues and Suns. The worry is he gets one of Weiters or Jones who are both excellent key defenders. Best case he gets Plow who he can destroy as we saw on the weekend with McDonald running rampant.

By trading Daniher this week I can actually afford Cam Guthrie or Jack Steele. Both options are quite tempting with Guthrie fitting my bye structure. It still allows me to turn Flynn into Bryan next week and grab Dusty
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Bully on May 19, 2021, 09:20:00 AM
I like the Guthrie/Steele picks, both shaping up as top 8 mids.

Not overly keen on Bryan over Treacy as I believe they will wind up both playing at various stages so better to pick the DPP guy. Marshall isn't the only option & there's some chance we will need cover.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on May 20, 2021, 11:54:41 PM
Quote from: Bully on May 19, 2021, 09:20:00 AM
I like the Guthrie/Steele picks, both shaping up as top 8 mids.

Not overly keen on Bryan over Treacy as I believe they will wind up both playing at various stages so better to pick the DPP guy. Marshall isn't the only option & there's some chance we will need cover.

Guthrie suits my byes pretty well which is why he is tempting. My only worry with Guthrie is how does he perform when Danger returns? If I was to grab a mid Steele feels like the best bang for your buck option and leads the way.

Another option I'm considering is Hawkins. I was looking at the available forwards and he was one that popped up. I didn't realise his BE was 49 this week which is quite low.  My original trade I was tossing up a Zorko/RCD combo for Powell and Bergman. Zorko would chew threw my entire bank which isn't necessarily a bad thing because I'm getting a locked in keeper. However I didn't realise that Dusty and Hawkins are also likely to spike in price this week. I feel both those guys will be up the pointy end and are also value picks right now. I can still go Daniher/Dusty pretty easily next week so it is extremely tempting to grab Hawkins instead as my premium option going up against a struggling Suns this week and look at Zorko after his bye.

With Jones potentially back I'm thinking that I can pass on RCD and grab Jones on the bubble instead. I don't want to miss out on Jones as I feel he can be a pretty good cash cow from the couple of games he did play this year.

Treacy is in this week. He has a BE of 26 which based on prior form he may not hit. Bryan looks to be an emergency for the Bombers but I feel that he still provides better coverage/cash cow potential. Of the other DPP R/F players not including Marshall we have

Campbell - Gross although his last 3 scores have been respectable.
Sav - Gross
Ladhams - Was dropped for poor form and is only in because Lycett was suspended
Lobb - Gross
Thilthorpe - Pass
Williams Pass

So there are no DPP options left that are worth wasting a trade on. I'd rather cop the donut.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Bully on May 21, 2021, 01:07:40 AM
They reckon around a month for Marshall but if either Gawn or Grundy miss a match that could be awkward. Always best to have some options up the sleeve.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on May 21, 2021, 01:37:08 AM
Quote from: Bully on May 21, 2021, 01:07:40 AM
They reckon around a month for Marshall but if either Gawn or Grundy miss a match that could be awkward. Always best to have some options up the sleeve.

I'm writing Marshall off this year. They were saying it would be a 4 week recovery time in the pre-season before it stretched out and he injured himself anyway. He had no feeling in his foot and will need to play himself into shape/form. If Bryan gets a handful of games I can hopefully pocket some cash in a downgrade to a DPP option if Marshall becomes available and viable down the track.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on May 27, 2021, 07:41:10 PM
Round 10

Stewart, Lloyd, Ridley, Doc, Jones, Kosi (Murphy, Highmore)
Macrae, Lyons (C), Walsh, Fyfe, Mitchell, Taranto, Laird, Jordan (Bolton, Poulter, Brockman)
Gawn, Grundy (Flynn)
Ziebell, Zorko, Impey, Daniher, Robertson, Scott (McCreery, Waterman)

Round Score: 2287
Overall Rank: 1,586
Total Cash Left: $47,800

Positives: Doc, Lloyd, Ridley, Lyons, Macrae, Walsh, Fyfe, Mitchell, Laird, Taranto, Poulter (bench), Grundy, Gawn, Flynn (bench), Ziebell, Zorko, Impey, Daniher, Robertson

Neutral: Kosi, McCreery (bench), Stewart, Jones, Waterman

Negatives:  Scott, Jordon

The big killer was Scott on field over Poulter. He stunk it up, got concussed and didn't hit his low BE. It was a bit of a disaster. The rest of the team was okay other than Kosi's muppet act and Jordon sucking.

A couple of trades I'm considering this week.

Kosi>Madden
Scott>Weightman/Hall
Daniher>Steele

I'm trying to work out my bye structure at the minute and I'm unsure of the best way to go about it.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Bully on May 28, 2021, 10:11:05 AM
Hall is a trap, he has a worse durability record than Whitfield, Greene & Jelly. Steele I like, draw opens up a bit & I reckon as as captain he will respond from the front.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on May 28, 2021, 07:27:16 PM
I'm going double down and winging the byes. I can actually hold my trades next week because I should have 22 and  with a ton of cash in the bank. I think Daniher is going to kill GWS with Taylor out. Hall I'm meh on and I don't know if it's worth holding Kosi for just this week.

Robertson and Daniher go their bye week and I can look at bringing in a couple of premiums then. I might scrape 18 together
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on May 28, 2021, 07:43:02 PM
Actually scrap that. I've gone Jordon and Scott to Steele and Madden.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on May 29, 2021, 04:16:18 PM
Should have traded Daniher. This Brisbane game has been awful. Taranto 100 DT fo 56 SC at 3QT. Lyons who hasn't dropped under the ton is on 66. Daniher 34, Madden 46 and Flynn 31. Awful result
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on June 01, 2021, 07:57:22 PM
Round 11

Stewart, Lloyd, Ridley, Doc, Jones, Highmore (Murphy, Kosi)
Macrae, Lyons, Steele, Walsh, Fyfe, Mitchell, Taranto, Laird (Robertson, Poulter, Brockman)
Gawn (C), Grundy (Flynn)
Ziebell, Zorko, Impey, Bolton, Daniher, Madden (McCreery, Waterman)

Round Score: 2207
Overall Rank: 1,943
Total Cash Left: $8,700

Positives: Lloyd, Stewart, Jones, Macrae, Steele, Robertson (bench), Poulter (bench), Gawn (C), Zorko, Ziebell, Bolton, Madden, Waterman

Neutral: Murphy, Lyons, Walsh, Fyfe, Laird, Mitchell, Flynn

Negatives:  Doc, Ridley, Highmore, Kosi, Taranto (harsh but reason below), Grundy, Daniher, Impey

There were a few flops/stinkers that really hurt. Lyons was down on production, Fyfe, Mitchell, Walsh were all meh, Taranto had one of the worst DT to SC ratios of seen in a highly disappointing result there. I should have held Jordon and traded Daniher to Steele to maximise cash and points. Ridley is looking like a shell of his previous self and the Grundy injury is an unknown.

What I am thinking this week

Option 1

Kosi>Houston
Flynn>Reeves
Daniher>Hawkins

10k left over

Option 2

Kosi>Bianco
Daniher>Kelly
Flynn>Reeves

$253,100 left over

Option 3

Kosi>Bianco
Daniher>Miller
Flynn>Reeves

$199,400 left over

I'm leaning towards option 1. Then I turn Robertson into Bianco and look to upgrade from there the following round.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Ringo on June 01, 2021, 08:40:02 PM
Have you thought about Kosi to CCJ swinging Madden back as well.

All options look good though.  Houston has a B/e of 103 and has not exceeded 100 since Rd 6 including 2 scores less than 60 so is it worth waiting for him? Bye this week as well.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on June 02, 2021, 12:03:23 AM
I can't get CCJ yet because I don't have enough available players for that bye week as it stands. I need to target R12 guys and the ones I have identified are Houston, Miller, Whitfield, Kelly and Hawkins as the best bets. Coleman-Jones is worth bringing in the week after his bye as a downgrade option. No reason to go early on him at all unless it is R3.

The only thing that worries me with Houston is the AC joint. I don't think he has been 100% which is where his scores have copped a hit. Just looking at them quickly

48 - Injured in the first quarter and was having a monster to that point and subbed at HT
107 - Good score and butchered the ball
54 - Whole team was beat down
94 - Subbed off in third quarter
49 - Abnormally low disposal count
97 - Decent numbers and close to the ton.

He was tracking big scores in both games that he was subbed off. The only comparable player for price and ceiling is probably Hurn. I think he is worth the risk at 400k if I grab him this week. Best available in general if I grab Hawkins are Houston, Heeney and probably Hurn and I'd take Houston of those three with all things considered.
Title: Re: The Process 21
Post by: Mat0369 on June 10, 2021, 07:23:55 PM
Round 12

Stewart, Lloyd, Laird, Ridley, Doc, Murphy  (Jones, Madden)
Macrae, Lyons, Steele, Walsh, Fyfe, Byrnes, Poulter, Bianco (Mitchell, Taranto, Brockman)
Gawn (C), Grundy (Flynn)
Zorko, Sidebottom, Bolton, Robertson, Waterman, Impey (McCreery, Ziebell)

Round Score: 1996
Overall Rank: 1,785
Total Cash Left: $60,500

Positives: Laird, Lloyd, Doc, Macrae, Steele, Walsh, Lyons, Poulter, Bianco, Gawn (C), Bolton, Sidebottom, Robertson,

Neutral: Ridley, Waterman, Zorko

Negatives:  Murphy, Fyfe, Byrnes

Fyfe injured and Zorko suspended were the two big negatives. I tried to get cute and grabbed Byrnes as a quick cash grab which turned out meh.  I was hesitant on my trades if the byes were moved so it altered my plans.

This week I'm going with the following

Flynn>Reeves
Robertson>Hawkins
Fyfe>Miller

and one of McCreery, Murphy or Brockman to CCJ. I'm leaning towards Brockman since I might squeeze out one more price rise from the other two prior to next week.