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Title: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 06, 2013, 12:47:24 PM
Hello! And welcome to a huge big wall of text.

It's award season, and rule change notifications.

First, with the rules:

The Cap

Everybody gave a lot of feedback, and hopefully this solution is okay with everybody.

Last year, the cap was 33,000 (total points scored by your players over the 17 WXV rounds). The final points for this year are:

Cairo: 33,692
Mexico City: 33,054
Sao Paulo: 31,841
Berlin: 31,649
London: 31,546
Toronto: 30,866
Cape Town: 30,303
PNL: 28,662
Moscow: 28,011
Seoul: 27,670
New York: 27,261
Dublin: 27,212
Buenos Aires: 25,926
Pacific: 25,596
Tokyo: 24,895
Wellington: 24,252
New Delhi: 21,231
Beijing: 19,565

Meaning only 2 clubs went over, and with delistings and retirements, probably not even then.

Propose to reduce to 31,500 maximum cap.

But it isn't just the best teams getting better that is causing unevenness in the competition. I'm also proposing to have a minimum cap (much like the AFL does), and that cap should be 24,000 - meaning New Delhi and Beijing need to trade for players (and not just trade for picks).

Trade Period

A lot of thought, and mostly the same as last year where:

It starts the day after the WXV Grand Final finishes.
Each Monday will send out a list of trades to be approved (compulsory vote).
6 negative votes stops the trade

BUT with one change. As Admin, and with no team to bias my decisions, propose that I also have a vote and that vote is worth 3. I.e. if 4 coaches vote against a trade, and I also vote against it, that is a total of 7 votes against and the trade fails. Also have the power to do it the other way (if 8 coaches vote against a trade I think is fair, I vote 'for' it, and total vote is 5, and is approved). I'll only vote for some of them.


Home Advantage

I haven't calculated final membership points yet (will do at end of season). But propose that this is how they impact Home Ground Advantaged.

Each team is ranked - the team with the most points given a ranking of 1, the least a ranking of 18.

Rank, Home Game Adjustment
1, 2
2, 1.9
3, 1.8
4, 1.7
5, 1.6
6, 1.5
7, 1.4
8, 1.3
9, 1.2
10, 1.1
11, 1.0
12, 0.9
13, 0.8
14, 0.7
15, 0.65
16, 0.6
17, 0.55
18, 0.5

What does this mean? If you are the 9th ranked, your home game adjustment is multiplied by 1.2. If your home game score was 40, this changes it to 40*1.2 = 48.

Hope that makes sense :/

I invite comments on all!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 06, 2013, 01:00:34 PM
good stuff ossie and i really like the idea of a minimum cap, i feel its more importants than a maxiumum cap. only issue is long term injured players.

lower teams trading in someone like mitch clark would actually be a good move.


the only thing im not looking forward too is the membership bonus, will be devastated if i lose a game from it when really it has nothing to do with your team.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on August 06, 2013, 01:07:21 PM
Finish 2nd on ladder, 6th smallest cap. Is that a moneyball approach? (I forgot)

Hmmm, time to find 6,000 points of players to add to the list somehow :o
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 06, 2013, 01:10:37 PM
Quote from: Nails on August 06, 2013, 01:07:21 PM
Finish 2nd on ladder, 6th smallest cap. Is that a moneyball approach? (I forgot)

Hmmm, time to find 6,000 points of players to add to the list somehow :o

not at all, its having no depth and being incredibly lucky playing all the weak teams when you post low scores.

Dublin uses the money ball approach, 12th most points yet was pumping out the biggest scores at the end of the year.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on August 06, 2013, 02:14:04 PM
We did lose with a 152 to one of the weaker teams (Tokyo)

We didn't always get lucky. Posted a good score and lost to a team with their highest score of the season.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on August 06, 2013, 02:23:04 PM
New Delhi with the second lowest cap, yet no priority pick! :( Trade us your guns... Please :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 06, 2013, 02:39:25 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 06, 2013, 02:23:04 PM
New Delhi with the second lowest cap, yet no priority pick! :( Trade us your guns... Please :)

You can have Danny Stanley and Chris Newman (still a gun at 31) for a pick (and a packet of chips).  :P

But yeah...

Over the cap.  :-X :( There are a few players I want to delist (I'm looking at you Ashton Hams, Jeremy Laidler and Rohan Bail) and we're looking to trade out a few players as well.

Just one thing. If the team that finishes first on membership points is like Mexico (for example) and the team that finishes last is Wellington (for example), is that unfair, shower luck or the fault of Wellington?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 06, 2013, 03:00:31 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 06, 2013, 02:39:25 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 06, 2013, 02:23:04 PM
New Delhi with the second lowest cap, yet no priority pick! :( Trade us your guns... Please :)

You can have Danny Stanley and Chris Newman (still a gun at 31) for a pick (and a packet of chips).  :P

But yeah...

Over the cap.  :-X :( There are a few players I want to delist (I'm looking at you Ashton Hams, Jeremy Laidler and Rohan Bail) and we're looking to trade out a few players as well.

Just one thing. If the team that finishes first on membership points is like Mexico (for example) and the team that finishes last is Wellington (for example), is that unfair, shower luck or the fault of Wellington?

Well, pothead is very punctual when submitting teams, but doesn't seem to do much else. So I'd say somewhere between 'shower luck' and the 'fault of Wellington'.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on August 06, 2013, 03:03:38 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 06, 2013, 02:39:25 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 06, 2013, 02:23:04 PM
New Delhi with the second lowest cap, yet no priority pick! :( Trade us your guns... Please :)
You can have Danny Stanley and Chris Newman (still a gun at 31) for a pick (and a packet of chips).  :P

Done deal, where do I sign? :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on August 06, 2013, 03:04:34 PM
I'm not sure about the points minimum Oz, like I know where you're comin from as it will fast-track improvement, but Beijing is gonna be hit by a bunch of retirements at EOS so I'm worried we will struggle to being it up enough.

The picks we will get in return for the retirees will be too late to attract much attention I'd say... :-X
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 06, 2013, 03:10:06 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 06, 2013, 03:03:38 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 06, 2013, 02:39:25 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 06, 2013, 02:23:04 PM
New Delhi with the second lowest cap, yet no priority pick! :( Trade us your guns... Please :)
You can have Danny Stanley and Chris Newman (still a gun at 31) for a pick (and a packet of chips).  :P

Done deal, where do I sign? :P
You'll probably have to chuck in a player. :P And it better be the priority pick!  ;)

Quote from: Toga on August 06, 2013, 03:04:34 PM
I'm not sure about the points minimum Oz, like I know where you're comin from as it will fast-track improvement, but Beijing is gonna be hit by a bunch of retirements at EOS so I'm worried we will struggle to being it up enough.

The picks we will get in return for the retirees will be too late to attract much attention I'd say... :-X

That's why you cough up an earlier pick for a good player. ;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on August 06, 2013, 03:13:13 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 06, 2013, 03:10:06 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 06, 2013, 03:03:38 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 06, 2013, 02:39:25 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 06, 2013, 02:23:04 PM
New Delhi with the second lowest cap, yet no priority pick! :( Trade us your guns... Please :)
You can have Danny Stanley and Chris Newman (still a gun at 31) for a pick (and a packet of chips).  :P
Done deal, where do I sign? :P
You'll probably have to chuck in a player. :P And it better be the priority pick!  ;)

Now you're just teasing me :'( WE DON'T HAVE A PRIORITY PICK! :( :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 06, 2013, 03:35:30 PM
Quote from: Toga on August 06, 2013, 03:04:34 PM
I'm not sure about the points minimum Oz, like I know where you're comin from as it will fast-track improvement, but Beijing is gonna be hit by a bunch of retirements at EOS so I'm worried we will struggle to being it up enough.

The picks we will get in return for the retirees will be too late to attract much attention I'd say... :-X

Fair call Toga, its mostly stopping people from trading away all there players from picks (like happened a lot last year).

How about this as a slight adjustment?

Anyone who has less than 24,000 points can't do any trade that decreases there total points? (So Beijing can't trade a player for a pick, they would have to trade a pick for a player or a player for a better player/s).

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 06, 2013, 04:04:21 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 06, 2013, 03:13:13 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 06, 2013, 03:10:06 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 06, 2013, 03:03:38 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 06, 2013, 02:39:25 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 06, 2013, 02:23:04 PM
New Delhi with the second lowest cap, yet no priority pick! :( Trade us your guns... Please :)
You can have Danny Stanley and Chris Newman (still a gun at 31) for a pick (and a packet of chips).  :P
Done deal, where do I sign? :P
You'll probably have to chuck in a player. :P And it better be the priority pick!  ;)

Now you're just teasing me :'( WE DON'T HAVE A PRIORITY PICK! :( :P

;) Haha nah, we can sort something out.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 06, 2013, 05:12:58 PM
Everything sounds good oz! All I have to do is delist Setanta  ::)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on August 06, 2013, 05:16:12 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 06, 2013, 03:35:30 PM
Quote from: Toga on August 06, 2013, 03:04:34 PM
I'm not sure about the points minimum Oz, like I know where you're comin from as it will fast-track improvement, but Beijing is gonna be hit by a bunch of retirements at EOS so I'm worried we will struggle to being it up enough.

The picks we will get in return for the retirees will be too late to attract much attention I'd say... :-X

Fair call Toga, its mostly stopping people from trading away all there players from picks (like happened a lot last year).

How about this as a slight adjustment?

Anyone who has less than 24,000 points can't do any trade that decreases there total points? (So Beijing can't trade a player for a pick, they would have to trade a pick for a player or a player for a better player/s).
How about they can't go down overall in the draft period, can do a trade to go down in total points so long as they make those points up via another trade.

Often a deal comes along so good you have to take it, and can then offload different picks for players to boost the cap back up again.

ie New Delhi has to finish the trade period at 21,231 or more, Beijing 19,565.

How they get there is their business, if they want to start the period by trading for pick 5 in the draft and giving away senior players that's their choice, so long as they get some different players back in later to make up for this differential.

If they're under their starting cap when the trading period ends, consequences will apply.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Maca24 on August 06, 2013, 08:38:15 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on August 06, 2013, 05:16:12 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 06, 2013, 03:35:30 PM
Quote from: Toga on August 06, 2013, 03:04:34 PM
I'm not sure about the points minimum Oz, like I know where you're comin from as it will fast-track improvement, but Beijing is gonna be hit by a bunch of retirements at EOS so I'm worried we will struggle to being it up enough.

The picks we will get in return for the retirees will be too late to attract much attention I'd say... :-X

Fair call Toga, its mostly stopping people from trading away all there players from picks (like happened a lot last year).

How about this as a slight adjustment?

Anyone who has less than 24,000 points can't do any trade that decreases there total points? (So Beijing can't trade a player for a pick, they would have to trade a pick for a player or a player for a better player/s).
How about they can't go down overall in the draft period, can do a trade to go down in total points so long as they make those points up via another trade.

Often a deal comes along so good you have to take it, and can then offload different picks for players to boost the cap back up again.

ie New Delhi has to finish the trade period at 21,231 or more, Beijing 19,565.

How they get there is their business, if they want to start the period by trading for pick 5 in the draft and giving away senior players that's their choice, so long as they get some different players back in later to make up for this differential.

If they're under their starting cap when the trading period ends, consequences will apply.
I agree with RB. This is how it should be to allow them to have full control of their trading :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on August 06, 2013, 08:42:49 PM
Failure to get above the cap = sacking  ;D ;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 06, 2013, 08:49:51 PM
Quote from: Nails on August 06, 2013, 08:42:49 PM
Failure to get above the cap = sacking  ;D ;D

I wouldn't say that you could be in trouble when your guys retire
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on August 06, 2013, 08:54:33 PM
Well it'd be my fault for letting it deteriorate to such a point, so surely some form of banishment should be brought down upon me...

That said I'm here for a Kevin Sheedy length appearance if possible.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on August 07, 2013, 01:50:10 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 06, 2013, 03:10:06 PM
That's why you cough up an earlier pick for a good player. ;D

Doesn't really relate to what I'm saying TBH... Won't stop players retiring.


Quote from: ossie85 on August 06, 2013, 03:35:30 PM
Quote from: Toga on August 06, 2013, 03:04:34 PM
I'm not sure about the points minimum Oz, like I know where you're comin from as it will fast-track improvement, but Beijing is gonna be hit by a bunch of retirements at EOS so I'm worried we will struggle to being it up enough.

The picks we will get in return for the retirees will be too late to attract much attention I'd say... :-X

Fair call Toga, its mostly stopping people from trading away all there players from picks (like happened a lot last year).

How about this as a slight adjustment?

Anyone who has less than 24,000 points can't do any trade that decreases there total points? (So Beijing can't trade a player for a pick, they would have to trade a pick for a player or a player for a better player/s).

Yep, I like this! Although RB's model is appealing too...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 07, 2013, 11:31:03 AM
Quote from: Toga on August 07, 2013, 01:50:10 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 06, 2013, 03:10:06 PM
That's why you cough up an earlier pick for a good player. ;D

Doesn't really relate to what I'm saying TBH... Won't stop players retiring.

Hahaha I know buddy, I was just messin'.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on August 07, 2013, 03:13:14 PM
You better be Nige! ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on August 08, 2013, 12:40:09 AM
Hey fellas, I'm sure its been addressed somewhere but can someone please give me a date for Trade Period kicking off? Is it after the Granny? Cheers lads 8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 08, 2013, 09:10:24 AM
Quote from: elephants on August 08, 2013, 12:40:09 AM
Hey fellas, I'm sure its been addressed somewhere but can someone please give me a date for Trade Period kicking off? Is it after the Granny? Cheers lads 8)

Yup. As the minute hand ticks past midnight on the GF sunday night  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on August 08, 2013, 11:16:15 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 08, 2013, 09:10:24 AM
Quote from: elephants on August 08, 2013, 12:40:09 AM
Hey fellas, I'm sure its been addressed somewhere but can someone please give me a date for Trade Period kicking off? Is it after the Granny? Cheers lads 8)

Yup. As the minute hand ticks past midnight on the GF sunday night  ;)

Ahh fantastic ;D Couldn't be keener :D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 08, 2013, 11:43:53 AM
Assuming you mean WXV's Granny not the AFL's ??

As usual sorry if dumb question
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 08, 2013, 11:44:42 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 08, 2013, 11:43:53 AM
Assuming you mean WXV's Granny not the AFL's ??

As usual sorry if dumb question

You would be correct in your assumption.  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on August 08, 2013, 11:52:11 AM
Yeah ^ so really after round 23 ;)

Lucky for Eagles fans like myself we won't have anything to worry about after then haha :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: maximus on August 08, 2013, 06:17:26 PM
I am now the assistant at Pacific islanders ;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on August 08, 2013, 06:23:26 PM
Quote from: maximus on August 08, 2013, 06:17:26 PM
I am now the assistant at Pacific islanders ;D
Congratz Maxi 8). You'll be in for the long haul with them :P.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jukes on August 08, 2013, 06:41:10 PM
Quote from: maximus on August 08, 2013, 06:17:26 PM
I am now the assistant at Pacific islanders ;D

bad luck mate, better luck next time
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on August 08, 2013, 08:52:13 PM
Quote from: Jukes on August 08, 2013, 06:41:10 PM
Quote from: maximus on August 08, 2013, 06:17:26 PM
I am now the assistant at Pacific islanders ;D
bad luck mate, better luck next time

Yeah +1, sorry to hear about that mate :-\ ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 08, 2013, 09:01:33 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 08, 2013, 08:52:13 PM
Quote from: Jukes on August 08, 2013, 06:41:10 PM
Quote from: maximus on August 08, 2013, 06:17:26 PM
I am now the assistant at Pacific islanders ;D
bad luck mate, better luck next time

Yeah +1, sorry to hear about that mate :-\ ;)

Good luck on getting your opinion heard.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 12, 2013, 01:44:28 PM
Buddy set for blockbuster clash with Pies (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-08-12/buddy-set-for-pies)

Oh thank you God.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on August 12, 2013, 04:41:16 PM
I know it's late, but I'm not in favour of membership points... The HGA is fine as it is.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 13, 2013, 09:06:32 PM
Jayman why have you just stopped replying to my pm's during our trade talks?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on August 13, 2013, 09:50:11 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 13, 2013, 09:06:32 PM
Jayman why have you just stopped replying to my pm's during our trade talks?
because he'd rather deal with the reindeers :P































just stirring ya :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: AFEV on August 13, 2013, 09:57:34 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on August 13, 2013, 09:50:11 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 13, 2013, 09:06:32 PM
Jayman why have you just stopped replying to my pm's during our trade talks?
because he'd rather deal with the reindeers :P
Nobody wants to deal with the Reindeers. :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on August 13, 2013, 09:58:50 PM
Quote from: Sid on August 13, 2013, 09:57:34 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on August 13, 2013, 09:50:11 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 13, 2013, 09:06:32 PM
Jayman why have you just stopped replying to my pm's during our trade talks?
because he'd rather deal with the reindeers :P
Nobody wants to deal with the Reindeers. :P
Haha couldn't agree more, lucky we gave up on Cyril his hammies keep decreasing the trade value ;)

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on August 13, 2013, 10:02:45 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on August 13, 2013, 09:58:50 PM
Quote from: Sid on August 13, 2013, 09:57:34 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on August 13, 2013, 09:50:11 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 13, 2013, 09:06:32 PM
Jayman why have you just stopped replying to my pm's during our trade talks?
because he'd rather deal with the reindeers :P
Nobody wants to deal with the Reindeers. :P
Haha couldn't agree more, lucky we gave up on Cyril his hammies keep decreasing the trade value ;)
now you guys just being plain mean :(

























you really do wanna deal with us you know it :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on August 13, 2013, 10:14:44 PM
There are a few players I'm interested in from the Reindeers daz ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on August 13, 2013, 10:24:32 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on August 13, 2013, 10:02:45 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on August 13, 2013, 09:58:50 PM
Quote from: Sid on August 13, 2013, 09:57:34 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on August 13, 2013, 09:50:11 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 13, 2013, 09:06:32 PM
Jayman why have you just stopped replying to my pm's during our trade talks?
because he'd rather deal with the reindeers :P
Nobody wants to deal with the Reindeers. :P
Haha couldn't agree more, lucky we gave up on Cyril his hammies keep decreasing the trade value ;)
now you guys just being plain mean :(

























you really do wanna deal with us you know it :P

I deal with yas, if you play nice :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 13, 2013, 10:35:58 PM
lol Daz

Well Tokyo have pick 5 and want a premo ruck or defender for it people seem keen on the pick have had some interest we are just waiting to see what's the best we can get for it
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on August 13, 2013, 11:22:18 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on August 13, 2013, 10:14:44 PM
There are a few players I'm interested in from the Reindeers daz ;)
ahhhhhhh so who exactly has peaked your interest?

@JB we are always nice at the reindeers :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on August 13, 2013, 11:25:25 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on August 13, 2013, 11:22:18 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on August 13, 2013, 10:14:44 PM
There are a few players I'm interested in from the Reindeers daz ;)
ahhhhhhh so who exactly has peaked your interest?
Sent HP a message earlier. I'll CC you in to it ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on August 13, 2013, 11:31:52 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 13, 2013, 10:35:58 PM
lol Daz

Well Tokyo have pick 5 and want a premo ruck or defender for it people seem keen on the pick have had some interest we are just waiting to see what's the best we can get for it

Whatever you give to kb, I'll go one better #pick4 ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 13, 2013, 11:50:21 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 13, 2013, 11:31:52 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 13, 2013, 10:35:58 PM
lol Daz

Well Tokyo have pick 5 and want a premo ruck or defender for it people seem keen on the pick have had some interest we are just waiting to see what's the best we can get for it

Whatever you give to kb, I'll go one better #pick4 ;)

:P

(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j334/kilbluff1985/homer_kiss_my_ass-t.jpg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/kilbluff1985/media/homer_kiss_my_ass-t.jpg.html)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on August 13, 2013, 11:58:13 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 13, 2013, 11:31:52 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 13, 2013, 10:35:58 PM
lol Daz

Well Tokyo have pick 5 and want a premo ruck or defender for it people seem keen on the pick have had some interest we are just waiting to see what's the best we can get for it

Whatever you give to kb, I'll go one better #pick4 ;)

Ok can i sign on the dotted line now?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on August 14, 2013, 12:27:23 AM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 13, 2013, 11:58:13 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 13, 2013, 11:31:52 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 13, 2013, 10:35:58 PM
lol Daz

Well Tokyo have pick 5 and want a premo ruck or defender for it people seem keen on the pick have had some interest we are just waiting to see what's the best we can get for it

Whatever you give to kb, I'll go one better #pick4 ;)

Ok can i sign on the dotted line now?

What are you giving kb? ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on August 14, 2013, 12:42:13 AM
Send me offers for Dane Swan kgo.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on August 14, 2013, 12:53:41 AM
Quote from: elephants on August 14, 2013, 12:27:23 AM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 13, 2013, 11:58:13 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 13, 2013, 11:31:52 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 13, 2013, 10:35:58 PM
lol Daz

Well Tokyo have pick 5 and want a premo ruck or defender for it people seem keen on the pick have had some interest we are just waiting to see what's the best we can get for it

Whatever you give to kb, I'll go one better #pick4 ;)

Ok can i sign on the dotted line now?

What are you giving kb? ;)

Jay Lever for Pick 5
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 14, 2013, 12:55:16 AM
 :o i thought it was Zac Dawson why you giving them better offers...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on August 14, 2013, 01:13:01 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 14, 2013, 12:55:16 AM
:o i thought it was Zac Dawson why you giving them better offers...

Because pick 4 is better than pick 5 of course ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Maca24 on August 14, 2013, 10:12:33 AM
On the hunt for top midfielders and a younger forward, have forwards and picks to give.
Also have youth in Hrovat and Membrey that can be used as sweeteners.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 14, 2013, 10:30:33 AM
Just a reminder that reigning Finals Champion Medal winner David Swallow is up for sale! Will trade at the right price, not forcing myself to get rid of him

Have had solid interest from 4 clubs

Defenders are the most wanted, failing that, forwards.

Ruckman need not be offered.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on August 14, 2013, 06:16:24 PM
Now that my season is officially over, thought I'd do one of these:

Looking to move on or easy to get
Greg Broughton, Nathan Bock, Troy Chaplin, Lee Spurr, Lynden Dunn, James Gwilt, David Astbury, Mark Austin*, Edward Curnow, Karmichael Hunt, Rory Taggert, Stefan Martin, Stephen Milne, Brendan Ah Chee*, Lewis Pierce*

Avaliable
Jobe Watson, Dale Thomas (M/F), Tom Hawkins, Colin Sylvia (M/F), Ryan O'Keefe, Adam Cooney, Zach Smith, Craig Bird, Billie Smedts, Sam Dwyer, Nick Haynes (M/F), Josh Hall, Campbell Heath, Easton Wood, Cameron Guthrie, Jacob Brennan, Cameron O'Shea, Matthew Dick, Dean Kent, Jordan Schroder

Valued and would rather be kept
Alex Johnson, Jasper Pittard, Blaine Wilson, Josh Cowan, Jeff Garlett, Gary Rohan, Josh Kennedy

Don't even try
Nathan Vardy, Trent Cotchin, Jeremy Cameron


When I say don't even try, I really mean don't even try. If I get one more PM about Trent Cotchin that doesn't start with "YOU CAN HAVE *insert best player on the team here* AND MORE IF YOU GIVE HIM TO ME", you'll have an angry MyChumps on your hands :P

Plenty of talent on offer. Looking for forwards and defenders as most of us are.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 14, 2013, 06:26:45 PM
sounds tempting to send you an offer lol
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on August 14, 2013, 08:02:07 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 14, 2013, 06:26:45 PM
sounds tempting to send you an offer lol

Hahah I won't lie I opened another tab ready to do it ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 14, 2013, 09:52:27 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on August 14, 2013, 06:16:24 PM


When I say don't even try, I really mean don't even try. If I get one more PM about Trent Cotchin that doesn't start with "YOU CAN HAVE *insert best player on the team here* AND MORE IF YOU GIVE HIM TO ME", you'll have an angry MyChumps on your hands :P


YOU CAN HAVE Todd Goldstein AND MORE IF YOU GIVE HIM TO ME
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jukes on August 14, 2013, 11:43:54 PM
http://www.goldcoastfc.com.au/news/2013-08-14/aflcomaus-under23-all-australian-team

5 reps from Moscow in the u23 AA side...feels good

Basically 4 though, bloody Darling...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 15, 2013, 09:28:14 AM

Will do this progressively when I have the time, and feel like it!

Wellington Warriors

* - No longer at the Club

Senior Games
Murphy   Marc   29
Hayes   Lenny   29
Smith   Isaac   24
Golby   Mitch   24
Lester   Ryan   20
Nahas   Robin   19
Rance   Alex   18*
Thompson   Scott   18*
Jetta   Leroy   18
Walker   Taylor   18

Reserve Games
Armfield   Dennis   28
Patfull   Joel   26
Picken   Liam   19
Brown   Campbell   18
Doughty   Michael   18*
Ellis   Brandon   17*
Conca   Reece   12*
Smith   Nick   12
Crisp   Jack   11
McKeever   Niall   11

Games as Captain
Murphy   Marc   22
Thompson   Scott   11*
Walker   Taylor   1
Foley   Nathan   1

Games as Defender
Golby   Mitch   23
Rance   Alex   18*
Adcock   Jed   17*
Dempster   Sean   14
Drummond   Josh   13*

Games as Midfielder
Murphy   Marc   29
Hayes   Lenny   28
Thompson   Scott   18*
Smith   Isaac   16
Brennan   Jarred   13*

Games as Ruck
Giles   Jonathan   9*
Hannath   Jack   9
McIntosh   Hamish   7
Picken   Liam   3
Patfull   Joel   2

Games as Forward
Nahas   Robin   19
Walker   Taylor   18
Jetta   Leroy   18
Bewick   Rohan   15
McGuane   Luke   10

Games on Interchange
Mzungu   Tendai   9
Smith   Isaac   8
Giles   Jonathan   7*
Corey   Joel   7*
Picken   Liam   6
Bugg   Tomas   6*

Total Points scored - incl. Bonus/Penalties
Murphy   Marc   5195
Thompson   Scott   3281*
Hayes   Lenny   2953
Smith   Isaac   1880
Golby   Mitch   1795

Total Points scored - excl. Bonus/Penalties
Hayes   Lenny   2953
Murphy   Marc   2936
Thompson   Scott   2035*
Smith   Isaac   1880
Golby   Mitch   1795

Total Points scored - Reserves
Armfield   Dennis   1723
Patfull   Joel   1719
Picken   Liam   1255
Doughty   Michael   1244*
Brown   Campbell   967

Team of the Round
Thompson   Scott   4*
Murphy   Marc   3
Adcock   Jed   2*
Smith   Isaac   1
Lester   Ryan   1
Hayes   Lenny   1
Rance   Alex   1*
Giles   Jonathan   1*
Whitfield   Lachie   1
McIntosh   Hamish   1

Average - excl. Bonus/Penalties, min 10 matches
Thompson   Scott   113.06*
Hayes   Lenny   101.83
Murphy   Marc   101.24
Giles   Jonathan   93.13*
Adcock   Jed   90.53*

Average - Reserves, min 10 matches
Smith   Nick   72.25
Conca   Reece   71.50*
Doughty   Michael   69.11*
Patfull   Joel   66.12
Picken   Liam   66.05

Other Awards

2012 Best and Fairest: 1st S Thompson*, 2nd L Hayes, 3rd A Rance*
2013 Best and Fairest: TBA

Jim Stynes Medal Results
6th 2012: S Thompson*

Rising Stars
2012: M Golby, R Lester
2013: J Neade, L Whitfield

Schwass/Naitanui Medal
2013: L Hayes

Reserves All-Worlds Team
2012: R Conca*


Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Maca24 on August 15, 2013, 10:35:05 AM
Quote from: Jukes on August 14, 2013, 11:43:54 PM
http://www.goldcoastfc.com.au/news/2013-08-14/aflcomaus-under23-all-australian-team

5 reps from Moscow in the u23 AA side...feels good

Basically 4 though, bloody Darling...
I've got none because Steele Sidebottom got robbed. :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 15, 2013, 10:38:07 AM
Quote from: Maca24 on August 15, 2013, 10:35:05 AM
Quote from: Jukes on August 14, 2013, 11:43:54 PM
http://www.goldcoastfc.com.au/news/2013-08-14/aflcomaus-under23-all-australian-team

5 reps from Moscow in the u23 AA side...feels good

Basically 4 though, bloody Darling...
I've got none because Steele Sidebottom got robbed. :P

2 for me.

JOM - obivous (he got robbed though should be a starter)

here is a guy who has saved me many teams in the year.

Rory Thompson 22 years old, 73 average unsubbed. has pumped out some big scores with 95 103 97 105
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on August 15, 2013, 10:52:48 AM
Jeremy Cameron  8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on August 15, 2013, 10:57:07 AM
Quote from: Holzman on August 15, 2013, 10:38:07 AM
Quote from: Maca24 on August 15, 2013, 10:35:05 AM
Quote from: Jukes on August 14, 2013, 11:43:54 PM
http://www.goldcoastfc.com.au/news/2013-08-14/aflcomaus-under23-all-australian-team

5 reps from Moscow in the u23 AA side...feels good

Basically 4 though, bloody Darling...
I've got none because Steele Sidebottom got robbed. :P

2 for me.

JOM - obivous (he got robbed though should be a starter)

here is a guy who has saved me many teams in the year.

Rory Thompson 22 years old, 73 average unsubbed. has pumped out some big scores with 95 103 97 105
When did you get Rory Thompson? I traded him to Wellington, but I don't see a trade going to you... ???
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 15, 2013, 10:59:59 AM
Quote from: CrowsFan on August 15, 2013, 10:57:07 AM
Quote from: Holzman on August 15, 2013, 10:38:07 AM
Quote from: Maca24 on August 15, 2013, 10:35:05 AM
Quote from: Jukes on August 14, 2013, 11:43:54 PM
http://www.goldcoastfc.com.au/news/2013-08-14/aflcomaus-under23-all-australian-team

5 reps from Moscow in the u23 AA side...feels good

Basically 4 though, bloody Darling...
I've got none because Steele Sidebottom got robbed. :P

2 for me.

JOM - obivous (he got robbed though should be a starter)

here is a guy who has saved me many teams in the year.

Rory Thompson 22 years old, 73 average unsubbed. has pumped out some big scores with 95 103 97 105
When did you get Rory Thompson? I traded him to Wellington, but I don't see a trade going to you... ???

haha oops, ok my squad isnt as good as i first for. got him confused with T.Muprhy.

looks like its 1 for me. Still Murphy averaged low 70s too which helped me.

might have to trade in thompson ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on August 15, 2013, 11:22:22 AM
I had a desperately unlucky player named (Mitch Duncan), but none in the actual squad. I did have 3 players named who played for me last season who I then traded away, Rory Thompson, Dan Hannebery, and Steven Motlop. Gee I'm a great trader :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 15, 2013, 11:33:31 AM
Actually just looked assumed NN would be the ruck, but its Zach Clarke.

So JOM and Clarke in the squad.

Anyone want Zach Clarke?

92 average, 22 years old. got 120 this week with sandi in the squad. Sandi hasnt got long left, I would keep him but having a 100 average ruck on the bench is a waste.

teams with old rucks or not very good rucks shoudl be interested.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on August 15, 2013, 11:48:04 AM
How is it a waste Holz? You play 2 rucks and you smash out big scores. Worked for me so well last year when Jacobs was actually good ::)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 15, 2013, 11:52:09 AM
Quote from: CrowsFan on August 15, 2013, 11:48:04 AM
How is it a waste Holz? You play 2 rucks and you smash out big scores. Worked for me so well last year when Jacobs was actually good ::)

because im playing him as the utility. He is worth more than a midfielder who can score just as much.

so really trading him I should get a better scoring mid, who will increase my teams overall points. Or just as good a mid and another player to increase my depth. I agree though its doesnt hurt having that back up. Goldy would probably be the most solid ruck in the competition though.

Just feel he has better value elsewhere.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on August 15, 2013, 12:28:31 PM
Quote from: Holzman on August 14, 2013, 09:52:27 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on August 14, 2013, 06:16:24 PM


When I say don't even try, I really mean don't even try. If I get one more PM about Trent Cotchin that doesn't start with "YOU CAN HAVE *insert best player on the team here* AND MORE IF YOU GIVE HIM TO ME", you'll have an angry MyChumps on your hands :P


YOU CAN HAVE Todd Goldstein AND MORE IF YOU GIVE HIM TO ME
I feel like I'm actually okay with my rucks at his point. Zmith and Vardy has a lot of potential!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 15, 2013, 12:39:54 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on August 15, 2013, 12:28:31 PM
Quote from: Holzman on August 14, 2013, 09:52:27 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on August 14, 2013, 06:16:24 PM


When I say don't even try, I really mean don't even try. If I get one more PM about Trent Cotchin that doesn't start with "YOU CAN HAVE *insert best player on the team here* AND MORE IF YOU GIVE HIM TO ME", you'll have an angry MyChumps on your hands :P


YOU CAN HAVE Todd Goldstein AND MORE IF YOU GIVE HIM TO ME
I feel like I'm actually okay with my rucks at his point. Zmith and Vardy has a lot of potential!

you said to offer my best player.

YOU CAN HAVE Jaeger Omeara AND MORE IF YOU GIVE HIM TO ME
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on August 15, 2013, 02:07:04 PM
Quote from: Holzman on August 15, 2013, 12:39:54 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on August 15, 2013, 12:28:31 PM
Quote from: Holzman on August 14, 2013, 09:52:27 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on August 14, 2013, 06:16:24 PM


When I say don't even try, I really mean don't even try. If I get one more PM about Trent Cotchin that doesn't start with "YOU CAN HAVE *insert best player on the team here* AND MORE IF YOU GIVE HIM TO ME", you'll have an angry MyChumps on your hands :P


YOU CAN HAVE Todd Goldstein AND MORE IF YOU GIVE HIM TO ME
I feel like I'm actually okay with my rucks at his point. Zmith and Vardy has a lot of potential!

you said to offer my best player.

YOU CAN HAVE Jaeger Omeara AND MORE IF YOU GIVE HIM TO ME
I said you can offer him, doesn't mean I'll accept :P

Jeager and Goldy? ;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 15, 2013, 02:52:44 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on August 15, 2013, 02:07:04 PM
Quote from: Holzman on August 15, 2013, 12:39:54 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on August 15, 2013, 12:28:31 PM
Quote from: Holzman on August 14, 2013, 09:52:27 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on August 14, 2013, 06:16:24 PM


When I say don't even try, I really mean don't even try. If I get one more PM about Trent Cotchin that doesn't start with "YOU CAN HAVE *insert best player on the team here* AND MORE IF YOU GIVE HIM TO ME", you'll have an angry MyChumps on your hands :P


YOU CAN HAVE Todd Goldstein AND MORE IF YOU GIVE HIM TO ME
I feel like I'm actually okay with my rucks at his point. Zmith and Vardy has a lot of potential!

you said to offer my best player.

YOU CAN HAVE Jaeger Omeara AND MORE IF YOU GIVE HIM TO ME
I said you can offer him, doesn't mean I'll accept :P

Jeager and Goldy? ;D

nah goldy is probably ahead of cotchin anyway. It would be pretty close.

JOM can move though, you know I want a flag now.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 15, 2013, 03:09:41 PM
Quote from: Holzman on August 15, 2013, 02:52:44 PM
JOM can move though, you know I want a flag now.

Well, I reckon any of the remaining 6 teams would have O'Meara in there starting XV, and one of them is going to win the flag
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on August 15, 2013, 03:13:54 PM
Jaeger would only be starting XV with injuries

He'd be behind Kornes, Swan, Boyd, Cross, Barlow and Chapman

5 mids + chapman utility

= Jaeger would be a nice emerg.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 15, 2013, 03:17:35 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 15, 2013, 03:09:41 PM
Quote from: Holzman on August 15, 2013, 02:52:44 PM
JOM can move though, you know I want a flag now.

Well, I reckon any of the remaining 6 teams would have O'Meara in there starting XV, and one of them is going to win the flag

difference though is most if not all the teams have better forward and defenses. My D4 and F4 is very weak and its the reason i didnt make finals. To counter it i either need to work on my fwd/def or have the best midfield in the comp.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 15, 2013, 03:21:14 PM
Quote from: Nails on August 15, 2013, 03:13:54 PM
Jaeger would only be starting XV with injuries

He'd be behind Kornes, Swan, Boyd, Cross, Barlow and Chapman

5 mids + chapman utility

= Jaeger would be a nice emerg.

JOM over cross.

Kornes last month 87 75 78 93 101
JOM last month 119 95 66 94

pretty close.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 15, 2013, 03:23:15 PM

O'Meara has the better average than Cross, def JOM > Cross

Not relevant, but almost 11 years younger also!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on August 15, 2013, 03:46:08 PM
You have to take out Cross's sub affected game and he averages more.

This is our best team without injuries just to see what it looks like and I wasn't planning to, but I'll include season averages, taking out sub games where applicable:

I'll leave CCornes out...

SD Thompson 98, Burgoyne 86, Gilbert 83, Scotland 82
Swan 118, Barlow 113, Kornes 105, Boyd 99
Warnock 89
Johnson 116, Cox 106, Harvey 104, Chapman 100
Petrie 99 Cross 92


EMG - J. Brennan 79, J. Schulz 84, Dalziell 88

Therefore I guess Jaeger not really best XV. It could be argued Cox should go ruck, and Petrie Fwd therefore Jaeger (if we had him) would be best XV. But I'd say no, Warnock smashes when he plays except like 1 bad game. Therefore I wouldn't really consider him to fit.

Fully fit we'd average 161 before HGA. Damn injuries.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 15, 2013, 03:46:19 PM
Great stats by the way oz
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 15, 2013, 04:06:33 PM
Quote from: Nails on August 15, 2013, 03:46:08 PM
You have to take out Cross's sub affected game and he averages more.

Why take the sub score out though? Cross, in his current form, is more likely to be sub that O'Meara is. He started sub, he wasn't injured.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on August 15, 2013, 06:05:17 PM
Already been posted in the Toronto thread but thought I'd put it here as well just incase

Available
Andrew Embley, Tom Bell, Ash McGrath, Michael Jamison, Aaron Joseph, Jesse Crichton, Taylor Hine, Nick Hayes, Mason Shaw, Jacob Gillbee, Ben Mabon, Nick Salter, Tom Jonas, Mark Whiley, Tom Curran, Frazer Dale, Ben Johnson (all yours if you want him, might chuck a Hudson haha)

Tradeable
Mitch Robinson, Dan Nicholson, Matt Maguire, Cam Pedersen, Steven Morris, Sam Butler, Matt Shaw, Brock McLean, Clint Young, Clint Jones, Jamie MacMillan, Levi Greenwood, Aaron Edwards, Aaron Hall, Tommy Walsh, Jesse White, Tom Hickey

Vital to team structure, would consider trading for similar player
Darren Jolly, Michael Johnson, Dayne Zorko, Nathan Grima

Will require some offer
Jack Ziebell, Paddy Ryder, Jack Riewoldt, Ben Cunnington

Don't try
Scott Pendlebury, Andrew Swallow, David Rodan
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 15, 2013, 06:10:21 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on August 15, 2013, 06:05:17 PM
Don't try
David Rodan

Hehe...  :o
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Maca24 on August 15, 2013, 07:09:13 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on August 15, 2013, 11:48:04 AM
How is it a waste Holz? You play 2 rucks and you smash out big scores. Worked for me so well last year when Jacobs was actually good ::)
It got me a premiership, Maric and Sandi both pumped out 120+ scores weekly last year.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 15, 2013, 07:41:35 PM
Quote from: Holzman on August 15, 2013, 11:33:31 AM
Actually just looked assumed NN would be the ruck, but its Zach Clarke.

So JOM and Clarke in the squad.

Anyone want Zach Clarke?

92 average, 22 years old. got 120 this week with sandi in the squad. Sandi hasnt got long left, I would keep him but having a 100 average ruck on the bench is a waste.

teams with old rucks or not very good rucks shoudl be interested.

You can't say it's a waste when you've been trying to get Shane Mumford off us for 2 months even though you already have Goldy...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 15, 2013, 07:45:24 PM
Lol
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 15, 2013, 08:15:31 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 15, 2013, 07:41:35 PM
Quote from: Holzman on August 15, 2013, 11:33:31 AM
Actually just looked assumed NN would be the ruck, but its Zach Clarke.

So JOM and Clarke in the squad.

Anyone want Zach Clarke?

92 average, 22 years old. got 120 this week with sandi in the squad. Sandi hasnt got long left, I would keep him but having a 100 average ruck on the bench is a waste.

teams with old rucks or not very good rucks shoudl be interested.

You can't say it's a waste when you've been trying to get Shane Mumford off us for 2 months even though you already have Goldy...

clarke has more value than mummy. So trade clarke and bring in mumford + extra.

ALSO GOLDY MAY BE MOVING CLUBS!!!!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on August 15, 2013, 08:18:32 PM
Quote from: Holzman on August 15, 2013, 08:15:31 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 15, 2013, 07:41:35 PM
Quote from: Holzman on August 15, 2013, 11:33:31 AM
Actually just looked assumed NN would be the ruck, but its Zach Clarke.

So JOM and Clarke in the squad.

Anyone want Zach Clarke?

92 average, 22 years old. got 120 this week with sandi in the squad. Sandi hasnt got long left, I would keep him but having a 100 average ruck on the bench is a waste.

teams with old rucks or not very good rucks shoudl be interested.

You can't say it's a waste when you've been trying to get Shane Mumford off us for 2 months even though you already have Goldy...

clarke has more value than mummy. So trade clarke and bring in mumford + extra.

ALSO GOLDY MAY BE MOVING CLUBS!!!!

Holz you got that many deals atm...lol...
Go pavvy :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 15, 2013, 08:24:32 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on August 15, 2013, 08:18:32 PM
Quote from: Holzman on August 15, 2013, 08:15:31 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 15, 2013, 07:41:35 PM
Quote from: Holzman on August 15, 2013, 11:33:31 AM
Actually just looked assumed NN would be the ruck, but its Zach Clarke.

So JOM and Clarke in the squad.

Anyone want Zach Clarke?

92 average, 22 years old. got 120 this week with sandi in the squad. Sandi hasnt got long left, I would keep him but having a 100 average ruck on the bench is a waste.

teams with old rucks or not very good rucks shoudl be interested.

You can't say it's a waste when you've been trying to get Shane Mumford off us for 2 months even though you already have Goldy...

clarke has more value than mummy. So trade clarke and bring in mumford + extra.

ALSO GOLDY MAY BE MOVING CLUBS!!!!

Holz you got that many deals atm...lol...
Go pavvy :P

I  have 10+ potential trades, with the restrictions though will need to pick the best deals.

think i have about 5 different deals for hogan and about 3 for black.

PAV better do something, as im not impressed so far.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 15, 2013, 08:25:35 PM
No restrictions I believe, other than points cap
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on August 15, 2013, 08:26:21 PM
All our Picks but #2 and our first Priority are up for trade.

More to come.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 15, 2013, 08:33:02 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on August 15, 2013, 08:29:50 PM
Quote from: Holzman on August 15, 2013, 08:24:32 PM
I  have 10+ potential trades, with the restrictions though will need to pick the best deals.
What restrictions?  ???

im assuming there is some sort of cvap on the ammount of trades.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on August 15, 2013, 08:38:10 PM
Quote from: Holzman on August 15, 2013, 08:24:32 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on August 15, 2013, 08:18:32 PM
Quote from: Holzman on August 15, 2013, 08:15:31 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 15, 2013, 07:41:35 PM
Quote from: Holzman on August 15, 2013, 11:33:31 AM
Actually just looked assumed NN would be the ruck, but its Zach Clarke.

So JOM and Clarke in the squad.

Anyone want Zach Clarke?

92 average, 22 years old. got 120 this week with sandi in the squad. Sandi hasnt got long left, I would keep him but having a 100 average ruck on the bench is a waste.

teams with old rucks or not very good rucks shoudl be interested.

You can't say it's a waste when you've been trying to get Shane Mumford off us for 2 months even though you already have Goldy...

clarke has more value than mummy. So trade clarke and bring in mumford + extra.

ALSO GOLDY MAY BE MOVING CLUBS!!!!

Holz you got that many deals atm...lol...
Go pavvy :P

I  have 10+ potential trades, with the restrictions though will need to pick the best deals.

think i have about 5 different deals for hogan and about 3 for black.

PAV better do something, as im not impressed so far.
way i see it i want hogan
BUT
more then happy to keep the Pav as we all know he will come good sooner or later
we are trying to offload our older ones but if we don't receive much for them we don't mind keeping them while the youth comes on a bit more  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Maca24 on August 15, 2013, 09:21:06 PM
I want to aggressively trade but I'm not sure if anyone wants my players :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on August 15, 2013, 09:26:41 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on August 15, 2013, 09:21:06 PM
I want to aggressively trade but I'm not sure if anyone wants my players :P
whatcha got on the tradeable list?
and what u looking for?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on August 15, 2013, 09:35:03 PM
I offered you a truck load for Pav last year Daz/HP

But you two chickened out. You would've absolutely killed it.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on August 15, 2013, 09:41:28 PM
Quote from: Nails on August 15, 2013, 09:35:03 PM
I offered you a truck load for Pav last year Daz/HP

But you two chickened out. You would've absolutely killed it.
we did :P but got negged
so then we just traded Stevie J
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on August 15, 2013, 10:27:32 PM
PNL Reindeers! Can contact me or Daz, Daz heading the trades though ;).

Looking to move on
Heath Grundy, Andrew Boseley, Luke Davis, Leigh Osborne, Nick Lower, Matt Thomas, Nathan Lovett-Murray, Angus Graham, Beau Maister, Trent Dennis-Lane.

Avaliable
Luke McPharlin, Andrew McInnes, Phil Davis, Jackson Trengove, Christian Howard, Aidan Corr, Jordan Lockyer, Matt Priddis, Kade Simpson, Luke Ball, Clay Smith, Farren Ray, Ayce Cordy, Xavier Richards, Tom T. Lynch, Matthew Pavlich, Justin Westhoff, Liam Jones, Tyson Goldsack.

Valued and would rather be kept
David Myers, Marley Williams, Nathan Jones, Daniel Rich, Brad McKenzie, Elliott Kavanagh, Mitch Hallahan, Jonathon Griffin, Matthew Lobbe,  Jarrad Grant, Levi Casboult, Jonathan Patton.

Don't even try
Jarrod Harbrow, Chad Wingard, Dylan Shiel, Cyril Rioli.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on August 15, 2013, 10:32:44 PM
Thought I might as well do one of these availability things for the Pumas, so here we go...

Available for Right Price
Rory Sloane, Sam Jacobs, Matthew Wright, Jason Porplyzia, Aidan Riley, Andrew Raines, Ryan Harwood, Jared Polec, Simon White, Andrew Walker, Peter Yagmoor, Kyle Martin, David Zaharakis, Ariel Steinberg, Alex Silvagni, Alex Forster, Stephen Hill, Haiden Schloithe, Mitch Duncan, Shane Kersten, Seb Tape, Gary Ablett, Liam Sumner, Devon Smith, Matthew Buntine, Taylor Adams, Jonathan O'Rourke, Jarryd Roughead, Brendan Whitecross, Luke Lowden, Jack Gunston, Scott McMahon, Majak Daw, Mason Wood, Hamish Hartlett, Ben Newton, Bachar Houli, Brett O'Hanlon, Dylan Roberton, Tony Armstrong, Beau Waters, Brad Sheppard, Chris Masten, Mitch Wallis, Will Minson
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on August 15, 2013, 10:35:27 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on August 15, 2013, 10:32:44 PM
Thought I might as well do one of these availability things for the Pumas, so here we go...

Available for Right Price
Rory Sloane, Sam Jacobs, Matthew Wright, Jason Porplyzia, Aidan Riley, Andrew Raines, Ryan Harwood, Jared Polec, Simon White, Andrew Walker, Peter Yagmoor, Kyle Martin, David Zaharakis, Ariel Steinberg, Alex Silvagni, Alex Forster, Stephen Hill, Haiden Schloithe, Mitch Duncan, Shane Kersten, Seb Tape, Gary Ablett, Liam Sumner, Devon Smith, Matthew Buntine, Taylor Adams, Jonathan O'Rourke, Jarryd Roughead, Brendan Whitecross, Luke Lowden, Jack Gunston, Scott McMahon, Majak Daw, Mason Wood, Hamish Hartlett, Ben Newton, Bachar Houli, Brett O'Hanlon, Dylan Roberton, Tony Armstrong, Beau Waters, Brad Sheppard, Chris Masten, Mitch Wallis, Will Minson
lol looks like just about your whole list
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: AFEV on August 15, 2013, 10:50:28 PM
Quote from: Jukes on August 14, 2013, 11:43:54 PM
http://www.goldcoastfc.com.au/news/2013-08-14/aflcomaus-under23-all-australian-team

5 reps from Moscow in the u23 AA side...feels good

Basically 4 though, bloody Darling...
Christensen, Bennell, McKenzie were all unlucky for us I think. Struggling to believe Rampe and Mullett over Cannon.
We still have 3, Prestia, Liberatore, Heppell.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Maca24 on August 15, 2013, 10:58:38 PM
Sidebottom is easily the most unlucky to miss!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on August 15, 2013, 11:28:12 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on August 15, 2013, 10:35:27 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on August 15, 2013, 10:32:44 PM
Thought I might as well do one of these availability things for the Pumas, so here we go...

Available for Right Price
Rory Sloane, Sam Jacobs, Matthew Wright, Jason Porplyzia, Aidan Riley, Andrew Raines, Ryan Harwood, Jared Polec, Simon White, Andrew Walker, Peter Yagmoor, Kyle Martin, David Zaharakis, Ariel Steinberg, Alex Silvagni, Alex Forster, Stephen Hill, Haiden Schloithe, Mitch Duncan, Shane Kersten, Seb Tape, Gary Ablett, Liam Sumner, Devon Smith, Matthew Buntine, Taylor Adams, Jonathan O'Rourke, Jarryd Roughead, Brendan Whitecross, Luke Lowden, Jack Gunston, Scott McMahon, Majak Daw, Mason Wood, Hamish Hartlett, Ben Newton, Bachar Houli, Brett O'Hanlon, Dylan Roberton, Tony Armstrong, Beau Waters, Brad Sheppard, Chris Masten, Mitch Wallis, Will Minson
lol looks like just about your whole list
Hmm, perhaps could have just been easier writing "everyone" :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on August 17, 2013, 09:27:34 AM
I'm ready to trade >:D looking to give up some of our mids and fwds. Jack Martin is on the trade table!!!

Anyone is available at the right price, just chuck me a PM giving me your young talent/draft picks.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on August 17, 2013, 10:01:00 AM
Beijing Thunder have released a list of tradeable players! Here we are!



ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK: (Likely to delist or throw in to sweeten a deal)

Hal Hunter, Henry Schade, Patrick Veszpremi

Neville Jetta, Ben Speight

Dean Brogan, Sam Naismith

ON THE TABLE: (Looking to trade this player for a fair deal)

Darren Glass, Rhyce Shaw, Brent Guerra, Luke Tapscott

Daniel Kerr, Matthew Rosa, Liam Shiels

Aaron Cornelius, Matt Spangher

COULD BE PERSUADED: (Would need a ripper deal to let these players go)

Harry Taylor, Cale Hooker, Michael Talia, Jackson Thurlow, Elliott Yeo

Lachie Neale, Kane Mitchell, Tim Broomhead, Tom Temay Travis Varcoe, Sam Kerridge

Matt Kreuzer

Scott Gumbleton, Eddie Betts, Robbie Tarrant, James Stewart, Tim O'Brien


UNTOUCHABLE: (Not available for trade no way no how)

Oliver Wines, Josh Caddy, Sam Mayes, Ben Kennedy

Brodie Grundy


DRAFT PICKS: (Draft picks available for trade)

Pick #20, Pick #40-odd


TARGET PLAYERS
Young forwards are our priority, but we will consider offers of any young, rising stars.

No need for ruckmen.

RED - Tradeable player, but we will need a great deal to get it over the line.




If you are interested in any of the above, please contact Master Q and myself so we can talk trades!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 17, 2013, 10:02:32 AM
Quote from: Jayman on August 17, 2013, 09:27:34 AM
I'm ready to trade >:D looking to give up some of our mids and fwds. Jack Martin is on the trade table!!!

Anyone is available at the right price, just chuck me a PM giving me your young talent/draft picks.

You want young talent and draft picks and you're willing to trade Jack Martin? Lolwut.

Have you been diagnosed as clinically insane yet?  :o
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on August 17, 2013, 10:05:50 AM
Nigey BB did the same thing last year when looking to go the youh route. Decided to trade Sidebottom ::)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 17, 2013, 10:09:23 AM
Quote from: CrowsFan on August 17, 2013, 10:05:50 AM
Nigey BB did the same thing last year when looking to go the youh route. Decided to trade Sidebottom ::)

:o :o :o
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on August 17, 2013, 11:22:21 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 17, 2013, 10:02:32 AM
Quote from: Jayman on August 17, 2013, 09:27:34 AM
I'm ready to trade >:D looking to give up some of our mids and fwds. Jack Martin is on the trade table!!!

Anyone is available at the right price, just chuck me a PM giving me your young talent/draft picks.

You want young talent and draft picks and you're willing to trade Jack Martin? Lolwut.

Have you been diagnosed as clinically insane yet?  :o
Umm no. We have an overload of young mids so would like to trade some for other positions. The strategy is sound - focus on your own team.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on August 17, 2013, 11:27:05 AM
Quote from: CrowsFan on August 17, 2013, 10:05:50 AM
Nigey BB did the same thing last year when looking to go the youh route. Decided to trade Sidebottom ::)
yeah bit silly everyone seems to want to go the youth option
but with martin even though his a super talent i wouldn't go over the top for him (though most is this comp will the way youth is rated is ridiculous imo ) my point is yes a super talent but Jay would be better off keeping. think of it like this Jay
would you of given Holz more for JOM this time last season when JOM was a known talent but not proven yet or now when his proven his a gun?

see nails saw it and went for it maca the same you really have a better chanc eof trading in older ones for a tilt at a flag then trying to horde youth like everyone else (which we are guilty of too i know :P )

for example
if HP and i said ok Wingard is on the table give us offers
i reckon if we went for older types we could get more then a younger type


anywho just a bit of rambling there...lol...
note: in case you didn't realize this is not all directed at you CF only the agreeing part was
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 17, 2013, 11:33:08 AM
Quote from: DazBurg on August 17, 2013, 11:27:05 AM
yeah bit silly everyone seems to want to go the youth option
but with martin even though his a super talent i wouldn't go over the top for him (though most is this comp will the way youth is rated is ridiculous imo ) my point is yes a super talent but Jay would be better off keeping. think of it like this Jay
would you of given Holz more for JOM this time last season when JOM was a known talent but not proven yet or now when his proven his a gun?

This was essentially my point.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 17, 2013, 11:36:43 AM
Let him do what he wants, he got the head coach position for a reason
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on August 17, 2013, 11:40:05 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 17, 2013, 11:36:43 AM
Let him do what he wants, he got the head coach position for a reason
Exactly. I'm not complaining if he wants to trade me Martin :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on August 17, 2013, 11:40:55 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 17, 2013, 11:36:43 AM
Let him do what he wants, he got the head coach position for a reason
ofc P77 my post wasn't actually completely directed at Jay point bout thinking of will he be worth more now or after proving was and was simply food for thought
i.e i'll take martin from him but it's not like i'd give up the likes of a wingard for a guy who hasn't played a senior game

rest was just a honest look at how most of these XV's comps run not just worlds but most in regards to youth compared to older etc
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 17, 2013, 11:42:41 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 17, 2013, 11:36:43 AM
Let him do what he wants, he got the head coach position for a reason

You're right, we shouldn't care if he wants to turn them into the Pacific Crows.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on August 17, 2013, 12:09:01 PM
Quit your talking and trade with me for flowers sake. :P

At the right price, anyone is available. Apart from Mitch Grigg ;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 17, 2013, 12:18:13 PM
Quote from: Jayman on August 17, 2013, 12:09:01 PM
Quit your talking and trade with me for flowers sake. :P

At the right price, anyone is available. Apart from Mitch Grigg ;D

It's impossible to trade with someone who is unwavering in their approach to trading. Plus, last time I tried, you didn't want any of the guns we were offering.  ::)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on August 17, 2013, 12:31:46 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 17, 2013, 12:18:13 PM
Quote from: Jayman on August 17, 2013, 12:09:01 PM
Quit your talking and trade with me for flowers sake. :P

At the right price, anyone is available. Apart from Mitch Grigg ;D

It's impossible to trade with someone who is unwavering in their approach to trading. Plus, last time I tried, you didn't want any of the guns we were offering.  ::)
Well it's up to you. You tried to get Nicholls by giving up Lewis Stevenson hahahaha. No thanks.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 17, 2013, 12:41:01 PM
Quote from: Jayman on August 17, 2013, 12:31:46 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 17, 2013, 12:18:13 PM
Quote from: Jayman on August 17, 2013, 12:09:01 PM
Quit your talking and trade with me for flowers sake. :P

At the right price, anyone is available. Apart from Mitch Grigg ;D

It's impossible to trade with someone who is unwavering in their approach to trading. Plus, last time I tried, you didn't want any of the guns we were offering.  ::)
Well it's up to you. You tried to get Nicholls by giving up Lewis Stevenson hahahaha. No thanks.

Do you even remember why? Because you don't want anyone over like 24 or something... ??? There are certain players every club has that are off limits and you only seem to want those players from us. I could have made some really decent offers that most people would probably accept if you didn't have such a specific criteria. ::)

While we're talking about that... Apparently there are rumours about us possibly trading Beams.

BEAMS IS NOT FOR SALE.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on August 17, 2013, 12:45:27 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 17, 2013, 12:41:01 PM
Quote from: Jayman on August 17, 2013, 12:31:46 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 17, 2013, 12:18:13 PM
Quote from: Jayman on August 17, 2013, 12:09:01 PM
Quit your talking and trade with me for flowers sake. :P

At the right price, anyone is available. Apart from Mitch Grigg ;D

It's impossible to trade with someone who is unwavering in their approach to trading. Plus, last time I tried, you didn't want any of the guns we were offering.  ::)
Well it's up to you. You tried to get Nicholls by giving up Lewis Stevenson hahahaha. No thanks.

Do you even remember why? Because you don't want anyone over like 24 or something... ??? There are certain players every club has that are off limits and you only seem to want those players from us. I could have made some really decent offers that most people would probably accept if you didn't have such a specific criteria. ::)
Thats not very specific criteria lol, also said 1st and 2nd rounders are good but you weren't keen on giving them up. Why would Pacific want old spuds?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 17, 2013, 01:00:13 PM
Quote from: Jayman on August 17, 2013, 12:45:27 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 17, 2013, 12:41:01 PM
Quote from: Jayman on August 17, 2013, 12:31:46 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 17, 2013, 12:18:13 PM
Quote from: Jayman on August 17, 2013, 12:09:01 PM
Quit your talking and trade with me for flowers sake. :P

At the right price, anyone is available. Apart from Mitch Grigg ;D

It's impossible to trade with someone who is unwavering in their approach to trading. Plus, last time I tried, you didn't want any of the guns we were offering.  ::)
Well it's up to you. You tried to get Nicholls by giving up Lewis Stevenson hahahaha. No thanks.

Do you even remember why? Because you don't want anyone over like 24 or something... ??? There are certain players every club has that are off limits and you only seem to want those players from us. I could have made some really decent offers that most people would probably accept if you didn't have such a specific criteria. ::)
Thats not very specific criteria lol, also said 1st and 2nd rounders are good but you weren't keen on giving them up. Why would Pacific want old spuds?
Danny Stanley? An old spud at 25? Whatever you say.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on August 17, 2013, 01:03:41 PM
Nicholls >>>>> Stanley
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 17, 2013, 01:08:00 PM
Quote from: Jayman on August 17, 2013, 01:03:41 PM
Nicholls >>>>> Stanley

Even though you have 4 rucks and arguably the worst backline in the competition, sure.  ::)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: AFEV on August 17, 2013, 04:52:04 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 17, 2013, 01:08:00 PM
Quote from: Jayman on August 17, 2013, 01:03:41 PM
Nicholls >>>>> Stanley

Even though you have 4 rucks and arguably the worst backline in the competition, sure.  ::)
Just because they have a surplus of rucks, it doesn't mean they should trade them for unders. :-X
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on August 17, 2013, 04:55:59 PM
Quote from: Sid on August 17, 2013, 04:52:04 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 17, 2013, 01:08:00 PM
Quote from: Jayman on August 17, 2013, 01:03:41 PM
Nicholls >>>>> Stanley

Even though you have 4 rucks and arguably the worst backline in the competition, sure.  ::)
Just because they have a surplus of rucks, it doesn't mean they should trade them for unders. :-X
Sid knows where its at.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: AFEV on August 17, 2013, 05:19:07 PM
Quote from: Jayman on August 17, 2013, 04:55:59 PM
Quote from: Sid on August 17, 2013, 04:52:04 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 17, 2013, 01:08:00 PM
Quote from: Jayman on August 17, 2013, 01:03:41 PM
Nicholls >>>>> Stanley

Even though you have 4 rucks and arguably the worst backline in the competition, sure.  ::)
Just because they have a surplus of rucks, it doesn't mean they should trade them for unders. :-X
Sid knows where its at.
(http://i.imgur.com/y5VhR.gif)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on August 17, 2013, 06:06:48 PM
Yeah but rather trade a ruck for unders (at least it's something) than have 4 and just waste 2  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 17, 2013, 06:13:56 PM
Quote from: Master Q on August 17, 2013, 06:06:48 PM
Yeah but rather trade a ruck for unders (at least it's something) than have 4 and just waste 2  :P

This. Especially when 3 are young guns and Leuey is just a tad older and can serve their club for years...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on August 17, 2013, 06:38:47 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 17, 2013, 06:13:56 PM
Quote from: Master Q on August 17, 2013, 06:06:48 PM
Yeah but rather trade a ruck for unders (at least it's something) than have 4 and just waste 2  :P

This. Especially when 3 are young guns and Leuey is just a tad older and can serve their club for years...
but maybe someone is offering a better deal?
or maybe he has a thought of which 2 of 4 he'd like to keep and maybe his 1 of them?
or basically maybe he just will not be screwed over for trading's sake
if they waste better to keep and next year all monster it and then get more for them then trade for unders
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on August 17, 2013, 10:49:15 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on August 17, 2013, 06:38:47 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 17, 2013, 06:13:56 PM
Quote from: Master Q on August 17, 2013, 06:06:48 PM
Yeah but rather trade a ruck for unders (at least it's something) than have 4 and just waste 2  :P

This. Especially when 3 are young guns and Leuey is just a tad older and can serve their club for years...
but maybe someone is offering a better deal?
or maybe he has a thought of which 2 of 4 he'd like to keep and maybe his 1 of them?
or basically maybe he just will not be screwed over for trading's sake
if they waste better to keep and next year all monster it and then get more for them then trade for unders
And what if none of them monster it and there value goes down considering it and they are a year older?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: AFEV on August 18, 2013, 03:25:58 PM
Quote from: Master Q on August 17, 2013, 10:49:15 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on August 17, 2013, 06:38:47 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 17, 2013, 06:13:56 PM
Quote from: Master Q on August 17, 2013, 06:06:48 PM
Yeah but rather trade a ruck for unders (at least it's something) than have 4 and just waste 2  :P

This. Especially when 3 are young guns and Leuey is just a tad older and can serve their club for years...
but maybe someone is offering a better deal?
or maybe he has a thought of which 2 of 4 he'd like to keep and maybe his 1 of them?
or basically maybe he just will not be screwed over for trading's sake
if they waste better to keep and next year all monster it and then get more for them then trade for unders
And what if none of them monster it and there value goes down considering it and they are a year older?
Then they will probably get the same value they would have if they had taken an unders offer this off-season...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on August 18, 2013, 03:43:43 PM
Quote from: Sid on August 18, 2013, 03:25:58 PM
Quote from: Master Q on August 17, 2013, 10:49:15 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on August 17, 2013, 06:38:47 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 17, 2013, 06:13:56 PM
Quote from: Master Q on August 17, 2013, 06:06:48 PM
Yeah but rather trade a ruck for unders (at least it's something) than have 4 and just waste 2  :P

This. Especially when 3 are young guns and Leuey is just a tad older and can serve their club for years...
but maybe someone is offering a better deal?
or maybe he has a thought of which 2 of 4 he'd like to keep and maybe his 1 of them?
or basically maybe he just will not be screwed over for trading's sake
if they waste better to keep and next year all monster it and then get more for them then trade for unders
And what if none of them monster it and there value goes down considering it and they are a year older?
Then they will probably get the same value they would have if they had taken an unders offer this off-season...
exactly  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Maca24 on August 18, 2013, 05:33:46 PM
How goods our rookie list!?
B.Jack, T.Curren, M.Blicavs and D.Butcher!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on August 18, 2013, 08:11:46 PM
Thurlow, Wines, K.Mitchell, Mayes, Kennedy and Grundy to name a few  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on August 18, 2013, 08:12:57 PM
Quote from: Master Q on August 18, 2013, 08:11:46 PM
Thurlow, Wines, K.Mitchell, Mayes, Kennedy and Grundy to name a few  :P
That's not your rookie list... ::)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 18, 2013, 08:51:55 PM
Quote from: Master Q on August 18, 2013, 08:11:46 PM
Thurlow, Wines, K.Mitchell, Mayes, Kennedy and Grundy to name a few  :P
Sometimes I wonder whether you're coach of Beijing or not.  :o :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Maca24 on August 18, 2013, 09:08:32 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 18, 2013, 08:51:55 PM
Quote from: Master Q on August 18, 2013, 08:11:46 PM
Thurlow, Wines, K.Mitchell, Mayes, Kennedy and Grundy to name a few  :P
Sometimes I wonder whether you're coach of Beijing or not.  :o :P
Fail Q :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on August 18, 2013, 09:09:02 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on August 18, 2013, 08:12:57 PM
Quote from: Master Q on August 18, 2013, 08:11:46 PM
Thurlow, Wines, K.Mitchell, Mayes, Kennedy and Grundy to name a few  :P
That's not your rookie list... ::)
Oh, he meant literally  :P I thought he was just stating he had decent rookies but whatever  ;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on August 18, 2013, 09:30:19 PM
Ok so I will be doing my awards night sometime during the week after I have been eliminated so results aren't final yet (for seniors anyway, reserves are finished), but here are some odds for who you think will win the Senior and Reserves Best and Fairest.

Gato Grande Odds
$1.40 - Gary Ablett
$2.10 - Will Minson
$2.90 - Andrew Walker
$3.80 - Hamish Hartlett
$5.95 - Jarryd Roughead

Gatinho Odds
$1.25 - Mitch Duncan
$1.95 - Devon Smith
$2.15 - Mitch Wallis
$2.95 - Taylor Adams
$3.60 - Matthew Wright

So who is everyone's tip?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on August 18, 2013, 09:31:27 PM
Ablett & Taylor Adams!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on August 18, 2013, 10:18:04 PM
My tip is CF to be a tightarse with the odds  :P

Seriously though hard to go past Ablett for the seniors, just look at Pendles' dominance of mine. As for the magoos I'd like to chuck a tenner on an ex-Toronto boy! Purely because he's an ex-Toronto boy
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on August 18, 2013, 11:35:47 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on August 18, 2013, 10:18:04 PM
My tip is CF to be a tightarse with the odds  :P

Seriously though hard to go past Ablett for the seniors, just look at Pendles' dominance of mine. As for the magoos I'd like to chuck a tenner on an ex-Toronto boy! Purely because he's an ex-Toronto boy
Haha who says I'm a tightarse? :P

By the way I do a different scoring system for votes in the senior best and fairest. Every player in the match is awarded either 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, or 0 points depending on how well they played. So if someone does play well but 3 others play better they will still get a vote. For interests sake 20 players have received at least 1 vote this season :)

Reserves is just the basic 3-2-1 system though :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on August 18, 2013, 11:46:15 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on August 18, 2013, 11:35:47 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on August 18, 2013, 10:18:04 PM
My tip is CF to be a tightarse with the odds  :P

Seriously though hard to go past Ablett for the seniors, just look at Pendles' dominance of mine. As for the magoos I'd like to chuck a tenner on an ex-Toronto boy! Purely because he's an ex-Toronto boy
Haha who says I'm a tightarse? :P

By the way I do a different scoring system for votes in the senior best and fairest. Every player in the match is awarded either 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, or 0 points depending on how well they played. So if someone does play well but 3 others play better they will still get a vote. For interests sake 20 players have received at least 1 vote this season :)

Reserves is just the basic 3-2-1 system though :)

I planned on the old 5-4-3-2-1 system for New Delhi but Dawson was getting way too many votes :P made us look worse! Had to revert to the 3-2-1 haha ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: AFEV on August 18, 2013, 11:51:12 PM
I am thinking we will do a 15-14-13-12-11-10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1 vote system this season, for the seniors.
To like, reward consistency. It's not so that we can give MPM more votes, blasphemous.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on August 18, 2013, 11:53:23 PM
With my system you still have to score really well to get a vote. You don't just turn up and get one :P

Players who have played a senior game, but have received any votes (yet) are:

Taylor Adams (8 games)
Jason Porplyzia (7 games)
Mitch Wallis (6 games)
Kyle Martin (3 games)
Seb Tape (2 games)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on August 18, 2013, 11:54:26 PM
Quote from: Sid on August 18, 2013, 11:51:12 PM
I am thinking we will do a 15-14-13-12-11-10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1 vote system this season, for the seniors.
To like, reward consistency. It's not so that we can give MPM more votes, blasphemous.

Would... Take... So... Long... :o
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: AFEV on August 19, 2013, 12:07:14 AM
Quote from: elephants on August 18, 2013, 11:54:26 PM
Quote from: Sid on August 18, 2013, 11:51:12 PM
I am thinking we will do a 15-14-13-12-11-10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1 vote system this season, for the seniors.
To like, reward consistency. It's not so that we can give MPM more votes, blasphemous.

Would... Take... So... Long... :o
Nah, I'll be able to pump it out when I find a free day. :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: AFEV on August 25, 2013, 07:33:47 PM
Tom Liberatore since round 10:

Games: 12
Centuries: 9
Scores <90: 1
Standard Dev: 21.48
Average: 114.17

AGE: 21 yrs

This kid...  :-*
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 26, 2013, 08:45:38 AM

You face off against me! And I think I'm representing the Toronto Wolves lol

So Cape Town Cobras v Toronto Wolves in the SC League final
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 26, 2013, 10:02:00 AM
Zach Clarke 3 round average of 123.3 with 120 116 134 to take his average up to 96.

All those guys without a young gun ruck take notice.


Dublin was disapointing this week only a 154, would have put me second best this week.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 26, 2013, 10:04:56 AM

Yep, well, your first 12 rounds you had a maximum of 146 and averaged 132 :/
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 26, 2013, 10:09:27 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 26, 2013, 10:04:56 AM

Yep, well, your first 12 rounds you had a maximum of 146 and averaged 132 :/

not sure how my team turned it around so fast. somehow changed from a team just outside the bottom 4 to arguably the best team in the comp.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on August 26, 2013, 11:32:22 AM
I think you've mentioned this somewhere, but can't remember where. When is the awards night? :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 26, 2013, 12:26:16 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on August 26, 2013, 11:32:22 AM
I think you've mentioned this somewhere, but can't remember where. When is the awards night? :)

Purple is running it Friday night
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 26, 2013, 01:37:58 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 26, 2013, 12:26:16 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on August 26, 2013, 11:32:22 AM
I think you've mentioned this somewhere, but can't remember where. When is the awards night? :)

Purple is running it Friday night

This is true! Will start advertising soon  :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Maca24 on August 26, 2013, 01:45:25 PM
Quote from: Holzman on August 26, 2013, 10:09:27 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 26, 2013, 10:04:56 AM

Yep, well, your first 12 rounds you had a maximum of 146 and averaged 132 :/

not sure how my team turned it around so fast. somehow changed from a team just outside the bottom 4 to arguably the best team in the comp.
You aren't the best team in the comp.
Everytime you say that, I get annoyed :P
6 good weeks doesn't mean everything.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 26, 2013, 02:00:58 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on August 26, 2013, 01:45:25 PM
Quote from: Holzman on August 26, 2013, 10:09:27 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 26, 2013, 10:04:56 AM

Yep, well, your first 12 rounds you had a maximum of 146 and averaged 132 :/

not sure how my team turned it around so fast. somehow changed from a team just outside the bottom 4 to arguably the best team in the comp.
You aren't the best team in the comp.
Everytime you say that, I get annoyed :P
6 good weeks doesn't mean everything.

its 8.

top scored 3 out of the last 5 weeks of the home and away season. Top scored in the first and second round of the finals series and would have beat 3/4 of the prelim teams this week easy.

154 average from the last 5 home and away games than 159 164 154 in finals for a 8 week average of 156.

I think i coudl put a case to remove the term arguably.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on August 26, 2013, 03:51:27 PM
Quote from: Holzman on August 26, 2013, 02:00:58 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on August 26, 2013, 01:45:25 PM
Quote from: Holzman on August 26, 2013, 10:09:27 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 26, 2013, 10:04:56 AM

Yep, well, your first 12 rounds you had a maximum of 146 and averaged 132 :/

not sure how my team turned it around so fast. somehow changed from a team just outside the bottom 4 to arguably the best team in the comp.
You aren't the best team in the comp.
Everytime you say that, I get annoyed :P
6 good weeks doesn't mean everything.

its 8.

top scored 3 out of the last 5 weeks of the home and away season. Top scored in the first and second round of the finals series and would have beat 3/4 of the prelim teams this week easy.

154 average from the last 5 home and away games than 159 164 154 in finals for a 8 week average of 156.

I think i coudl put a case to remove the term arguably.
Holz I started off the season with an 11 week (3 weeks longer than you) average of 157. Does that mean I am the best team in the comp? Teams go through phases of scoring, your team hit good form at the end of the season, but you were crap to begin with. To be considered the best team in the comp you have to be consistent throughout the entire season. Suns are the best team in the comp quite clearly, and it pains me to say that as I would like to be!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on August 26, 2013, 03:52:54 PM
#iflessinjuriesdilloswouldbeupthere

#toomanyweekswith13men
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 26, 2013, 03:59:34 PM
Quote from: Nails on August 26, 2013, 03:52:54 PM
#toomanyweekswith13men

Yeah, but you won those :P And you were playing a team with 13.5 in the prelim :/
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on August 26, 2013, 04:00:34 PM
I mean in regards to consistency and being "the best team"

Suns/Pumas ran away with most points scored after we had to play short of a full XV a few times.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on August 26, 2013, 04:02:34 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 26, 2013, 01:37:58 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 26, 2013, 12:26:16 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on August 26, 2013, 11:32:22 AM
I think you've mentioned this somewhere, but can't remember where. When is the awards night? :)

Purple is running it Friday night

This is true! Will start advertising soon  :)
Ok sounds good :)
Will Ablett win the medal two years in a row? His poor form only hit during the finals, which aren't counted in the voting!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 26, 2013, 04:05:20 PM
Cairo's win streak in the second half of the season was pretty impressive.

Alexandria's first half of the season was simply amazing.

I think that balances it out.

Maybe Cairo are the best? If not, we're definitely one of the biggest improvers.  ;)

#banter
#youareallindanile
#nohatepls
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jukes on August 26, 2013, 04:05:58 PM
GRIFF! GRIFF! GRIFF! GRIFF! GRIFF! GRIFF! GRIFF! GRIFF! GRIFF! GRIFF!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 26, 2013, 04:08:21 PM
it depedns if your taking postions into account. If its purely just who scored the best ablett wins. But if its like the euro and positions are taken into account than goldy and minson are in with a shot of taking it out.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Maca24 on August 26, 2013, 04:15:05 PM
Holz I think you are inarguably not in the top 3 best teams this year. :P
So don't try say you're the best.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 26, 2013, 04:29:25 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on August 26, 2013, 04:15:05 PM
Holz I think you are inarguably not in the top 3 best teams this year. :P
So don't try say you're the best.

would you give me top 3 lists.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on August 26, 2013, 05:45:30 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 26, 2013, 08:45:38 AM

You face off against me! And I think I'm representing the Toronto Wolves lol

So Cape Town Cobras v Toronto Wolves in the SC League final
Wooo....Toronto might win something! :P

Cheers again for doing that Oss, will lock it into one of my slots first up next year
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on August 26, 2013, 05:47:37 PM
Quote from: Holzman on August 26, 2013, 04:29:25 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on August 26, 2013, 04:15:05 PM
Holz I think you are inarguably not in the top 3 best teams this year. :P
So don't try say you're the best.

would you give me top 3 lists.

I think Holz isnt in the 8 best teams this year ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 26, 2013, 06:34:28 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 26, 2013, 05:47:37 PM
Quote from: Holzman on August 26, 2013, 04:29:25 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on August 26, 2013, 04:15:05 PM
Holz I think you are inarguably not in the top 3 best teams this year. :P
So don't try say you're the best.

would you give me top 3 lists.

I think Holz isnt in the 8 best teams this year ;)

Lol JB
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on August 26, 2013, 11:49:05 PM
Hahahaha Holz is turning into the banter king recently :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 27, 2013, 12:08:55 AM
Quote from: elephants on August 26, 2013, 11:49:05 PM
Hahahaha Holz is turning into the banter king recently :P

Not sure what happenf a year ago I was the nice humble guy. Niw my teams are good and not spoon winners.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jukes on August 27, 2013, 06:28:16 PM
Somebody take my draft picks!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 28, 2013, 12:19:15 PM
Quote from: Jukes on August 27, 2013, 06:28:16 PM
Somebody take my draft picks!

Hand 'em over then.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on August 28, 2013, 12:45:54 PM
Please trade me your old farts who aren't guns but are in best 22 and play like 15+ games per season

I'll take the old farts who aren't good and probably will retire soon. I am interested in them. Gimme.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 28, 2013, 12:46:50 PM
Quote from: Nails on August 28, 2013, 12:45:54 PM
Please trade me your old farts who aren't guns but are in best 22 and play like 15+ games per season

I'll take the old farts who aren't good and probably will retire soon. I am interested in them. Gimme.

what do you have to give though?


Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on August 28, 2013, 12:51:59 PM
Quote from: Nails on August 28, 2013, 12:45:54 PM
Please trade me your old farts who aren't guns but are in best 22 and play like 15+ games per season

I'll take the old farts who aren't good and probably will retire soon. I am interested in them. Gimme.
I could give you Andrew Raines, but since he's 27 he's probably too young for your team...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on August 28, 2013, 12:53:48 PM
Quote from: Holzman on August 28, 2013, 12:46:50 PM
Quote from: Nails on August 28, 2013, 12:45:54 PM
Please trade me your old farts who aren't guns but are in best 22 and play like 15+ games per season

I'll take the old farts who aren't good and probably will retire soon. I am interested in them. Gimme.

what do you have to give though?

I have plenty to give :o

Intriguing CF, but probably not best 22 enough for my liking. Got dropped a few times this year.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on August 28, 2013, 12:59:10 PM
Well you said play 15+, and if he plays this weekend that will be 18 games for the season. I would say that is best 22 ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on August 28, 2013, 01:34:57 PM
Quote from: Nails on August 28, 2013, 12:53:48 PM
Quote from: Holzman on August 28, 2013, 12:46:50 PM
Quote from: Nails on August 28, 2013, 12:45:54 PM
Please trade me your old farts who aren't guns but are in best 22 and play like 15+ games per season

I'll take the old farts who aren't good and probably will retire soon. I am interested in them. Gimme.

what do you have to give though?

I have plenty to give :o

Intriguing CF, but probably not best 22 enough for my liking. Got dropped a few times this year.

Got james kelly, liam anthony ans joel corey for sale
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 28, 2013, 01:37:00 PM
Quote from: Nails on August 28, 2013, 12:45:54 PM
Please trade me your old farts who aren't guns but are in best 22 and play like 15+ games per season

I'll take the old farts who aren't good and probably will retire soon. I am interested in them. Gimme.

We're happy with deal we've got organised with ya.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on August 28, 2013, 03:02:00 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on August 28, 2013, 12:59:10 PM
Well you said play 15+, and if he plays this weekend that will be 18 games for the season. I would say that is best 22 ;)

I don't want someone who scores 15 in a game though

Sounds good Nige, would be nice if I could sell what I'm selling for more. But I guess a deal is a deal.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 28, 2013, 06:00:54 PM
Just letting everyone now that 90 averaging D/F lachie henderson is for sale at the right price
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on August 28, 2013, 06:08:34 PM
Quote from: Holzman on August 28, 2013, 12:46:50 PM
Quote from: Nails on August 28, 2013, 12:45:54 PM
Please trade me your old farts who aren't guns but are in best 22 and play like 15+ games per season

I'll take the old farts who aren't good and probably will retire soon. I am interested in them. Gimme.

what do you have to give though?
this
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on August 28, 2013, 06:14:25 PM
It depends what people want ;)

I have a bit of everything and a bag of chips.

Nigey and I already worked out a trade. Though I'd like to get more I have made a deal with Nige and it's fair

Nige knows how to work it out, sure the rest of you can ;o
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on August 28, 2013, 07:04:37 PM
Well who are you trading?  :P

We also have picks up for grabs, not pick #2 though unless an awesome offer comes along.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 31, 2013, 08:08:36 PM
A bit of deja vu for all the coaches who were here this time last year!

Matthew Stokes is for sale, but this time he averages like 20ppg more lol

Will consider any age and anyone other than draft picks and ruckmen.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 01, 2013, 09:18:16 PM
Just had a look back, we got Mark Hutchings with pick 89 (Round 8) of the International Draft last year.  :o

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on September 02, 2013, 08:29:37 AM
Ok so the players are still up celebrating their win, so haven't had time to sit down and talk to each player individually about where they stand at the club, but just thought I would point this out for the rest of you (because I'm such a nice guy). Next season my midfield is going to consist of...

Ablett, Sloane, Masten, Hartlett, Zaharakis, Hill, Duncan, Adams and Wallis. Which is then backed up by some young future stars.

That's 9 players fighting it out for a maximum of 6 spots, so with that in mind I may be willing to trade 1 or 2 of them. Mainly after a forward in return, but feel free to offer whatever you want :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 02, 2013, 08:49:10 AM

I'd imagine Zaharakis, Hill and Wallis will be looking for a new club, after missing out on Premiership glory :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on September 02, 2013, 09:10:44 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 02, 2013, 08:49:10 AM

I'd imagine Zaharakis, Hill and Wallis will be looking for a new club, after missing out on Premiership glory :P
Hill was unfortunately injured during the week leading up to the grand final so he was devastated about missing it. Zaha was very upset too, but understood that his form over the last few weeks had been poor and didn't deserve to play, whilst Wallis was a bit more upbeat. He knew he had played poorly at the start of the year, but was working his way in to form near the end, but he just couldn't displace anyone from a solid side. He will be hitting the preseason hard to force his way in to the side for next year!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 02, 2013, 09:56:05 AM
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 02, 2013, 09:10:44 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 02, 2013, 08:49:10 AM

I'd imagine Zaharakis, Hill and Wallis will be looking for a new club, after missing out on Premiership glory :P
Hill was unfortunately injured during the week leading up to the grand final so he was devastated about missing it. Zaha was very upset too, but understood that his form over the last few weeks had been poor and didn't deserve to play, whilst Wallis was a bit more upbeat. He knew he had played poorly at the start of the year, but was working his way in to form near the end, but he just couldn't displace anyone from a solid side. He will be hitting the preseason hard to force his way in to the side for next year!
All those mids, so many selection headaches, one simply doesn't need that when trying to go back-to-back in 2014.  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on September 02, 2013, 10:05:06 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 02, 2013, 09:56:05 AM
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 02, 2013, 09:10:44 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 02, 2013, 08:49:10 AM

I'd imagine Zaharakis, Hill and Wallis will be looking for a new club, after missing out on Premiership glory :P
Hill was unfortunately injured during the week leading up to the grand final so he was devastated about missing it. Zaha was very upset too, but understood that his form over the last few weeks had been poor and didn't deserve to play, whilst Wallis was a bit more upbeat. He knew he had played poorly at the start of the year, but was working his way in to form near the end, but he just couldn't displace anyone from a solid side. He will be hitting the preseason hard to force his way in to the side for next year!
All those mids, so many selection headaches, one simply doesn't need that when trying to go back-to-back in 2014.  ;)
Think I can handle making the big decisions. Dropping Zaha, stripping GAJ of captaincy and handing Buntine his debut in the grand final are all reasons as to why I am now premier ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on September 02, 2013, 10:23:18 AM
Oh also, I've decided to host the Pumas Awards night tonight before they all go off on the post season holidays. Will probably be posting the voting from around 7ish onwards to tune in to find out who wins the 4 awards :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 02, 2013, 01:38:28 PM

Hi everyone, letting people know that KoopKicka has resigned as Seoul co-coach. JBsHawks will continue as sole coach.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on September 02, 2013, 01:53:49 PM
Just a friendly warning to everyone, that If I have clearly expressed an interest in one of your players and at any point didn't withdraw my interest, and you trade him without telling me or giving me an opportunity to adjust my offer... I will refuse to trade with you for the rest of the trading period.

Common courtesy, not tolerating it anymore and I'm sure I'm not the only one that feels the same.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on September 02, 2013, 03:09:44 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 02, 2013, 01:53:49 PM
Just a friendly warning to everyone, that If I have clearly expressed an interest in one of your players and at any point didn't withdraw my interest, and you trade him without telling me or giving me an opportunity to adjust my offer... I will refuse to trade with you for the rest of the trading period.

Common courtesy, not tolerating it anymore and I'm sure I'm not the only one that feels the same.
very well said p77  :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on September 02, 2013, 03:33:44 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 02, 2013, 01:38:28 PM

Hi everyone, letting people know that KoopKicka has resigned as Seoul co-coach. JBsHawks will continue as sole coach.

Any news on the pending co-coaches situation at the Tigers? :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 02, 2013, 03:53:45 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 02, 2013, 03:33:44 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 02, 2013, 01:38:28 PM

Hi everyone, letting people know that KoopKicka has resigned as Seoul co-coach. JBsHawks will continue as sole coach.

Any news on the pending co-coaches situation at the Tigers? :)

Ah crap, forgot! Will put it to a vote when we send out the first run of trades next week :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on September 02, 2013, 04:21:42 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 02, 2013, 03:53:45 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 02, 2013, 03:33:44 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 02, 2013, 01:38:28 PM

Hi everyone, letting people know that KoopKicka has resigned as Seoul co-coach. JBsHawks will continue as sole coach.

Any news on the pending co-coaches situation at the Tigers? :)

Ah crap, forgot! Will put it to a vote when we send out the first run of trades next week :)

Too easy mate 8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on September 02, 2013, 04:38:37 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 02, 2013, 10:23:18 AM
Oh also, I've decided to host the Pumas Awards night tonight before they all go off on the post season holidays. Will probably be posting the voting from around 7ish onwards to tune in to find out who wins the 4 awards :)
So before I announce all the winners tonight anyone want to place some last minute guesses on who will win the 4 awards?

The favourites for each award are listed below in alphabetical order (no odds given sorry)...

Gato Grande
Gary Ablett
Bachar Houli
Will Minson
Rory Sloane
Andrew Walker

Gatinho
Taylor Adams
Mitch Duncan
Devon Smith
Mitch Wallis
Matthew Wright

Most Improved
Mitch Duncan
Ryan Harwood
Will Minson
Dylan Roberton
Devon Smith

Best First Year
Taylor Adams
Jack Gunston
Stephen Hill
Chris Masten
Andrew Walker
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on September 02, 2013, 05:22:14 PM
Ablett, Duncan, Roberton and Walker

.... would sure look good in Berlin colours haha
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on September 02, 2013, 05:28:19 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 02, 2013, 05:22:14 PM
Ablett, Duncan, Roberton and Walker

.... would sure look good in Berlin colours haha
Haha really? I don't think black is really their colour :P
Much more suited to the vibrant yellow, blue and green of Sao Paulo ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on September 02, 2013, 08:37:25 PM
Hi Oz - been talking trades with a few fellow coaches and was wondering whether you have an up-to-date list of each teams total points with each player's points listed?

Would be a massive help for Q and myself given our trades will be very reliant on this because we're under the cap.

Cheers :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on September 02, 2013, 08:54:23 PM
Third post in the trade thread Toges :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on September 02, 2013, 09:02:52 PM
To be honest this points cap minimum thing just makes trading way harder...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on September 02, 2013, 09:03:40 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 02, 2013, 08:54:23 PM
Third post in the trade thread Toges :)

Thanks mate! Thought I'd seen it somewhere ::) :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on September 02, 2013, 11:10:47 PM
Ok I'm going to make the availability of my players easy, by splitting them in to just 2 categories :)

Not all that fussed about
Def - Scott McMahon, Simon White, Alex Silvagni, Tony Armstrong, Seb Tape, Ariel Steinberg, Peter Yagmoor
Mid - Andrew Raines, Brad Sheppard, Jared Polec, Aiden Riley, Jono O'Rourke
Ruck - Luke Lowden
Fwd - Matthew Wright, Jason Porplyzia, Brett O'Hanlon, Mason Wood, Ben Newton, Haiden Schloithe

Would prefer to keep, but could be persuaded to part ways
Def - Andrew Walker, Bachar Houli, Beau Waters, Dylan Roberton, Matthew Buntine, Ryan Harwood, Alex Forster
Mid - Gary Ablett, Rory Sloane, Chris Masten, Hamish Hartlett, Stephen Hill, David Zaharakis, Mitch Duncan, Kyle Martin, Taylor Adams, Mitch Wallis, Liam Sumner
Ruck - Will Minson, Sam Jacobs, Majak Daw
Fwd - Jarryd Roughead, Jack Gunston, Devon Smith, Brendan Whitecross, Shane Kersten

Basically just after getting in a couple more forwards to give me some depth. I'm not going to be the most active trader at the moment due to uni and work constraints, so if you are after a deal you will most likely have to approach me :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 02, 2013, 11:22:23 PM
you could have saved time and just typed spuds in the tradeable section and not spuds in the non tradeable section lol
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jukes on September 02, 2013, 11:26:34 PM
Tom Williams for Ablett?

I'll chuck in a fifth rounder too
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on September 02, 2013, 11:34:02 PM
Quote from: Jukes on September 02, 2013, 11:26:34 PM
Tom Williams for Ablett?

I'll chuck in a fifth rounder too

Ok, I'll grab Nic Nat for Dawson then.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jukes on September 02, 2013, 11:47:58 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 02, 2013, 11:34:02 PM
Quote from: Jukes on September 02, 2013, 11:26:34 PM
Tom Williams for Ablett?

I'll chuck in a fifth rounder too

Ok, I'll grab Nic Nat for Dawson then.

Surely that'll be rejected though, you're getting ripped of. Number 1 full back at one-percenters in the comp for an injury-prone guy who isn't even the best ruckman at his club.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on September 03, 2013, 12:25:01 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 02, 2013, 11:22:23 PM
you could have saved time and just typed spuds in the tradeable section and not spuds in the non tradeable section lol
I wouldn't say they are all spuds. McMahon is a solid defender, and Tape very promising, whilst Sheppard, Sumner, Polec and O'Rourke are all top 10 draft picks. Then for the forwards Matthew Wright and Porps score well when they get games.

Anyway the sections weren't tradeable and non-tradeable, they were I don't mind if they go and they can go but need better offers. For example I have already said that I'm willing to trade one of my stronger mids, but put them all in the second section since I don't know which one people will want so you can have a go at them all ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on September 03, 2013, 05:29:10 PM
David Swallow is in serious talks guys, if you want him, come get him  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 04, 2013, 12:26:27 PM
I've posted this in the Trade Thread as well for people to have a look at, may be edited once ML replies my PM.

Red = Do not even try.
Green = On the table.
Blue = Getting cut from the list (could also be a trade sweetener).
Orange = Would rather keep, but could move on.

Backs:
Nick Malceski
Pearce Hanley
Danny Stanley
Josh Gibson
Jeremy Laidler
Lukas Markovic
Eric Mackenzie
Chris Newman
Jed Bews
Lewis Stevenson
Brett Goodes (B/M)
Sam Siggins
Jason Johannisen
Kyle Hartigan (R)
Harrison Marsh (R)

Mids:
Dayne Beams
Nick Dal Santo
Shaun Grigg
Brad Sewell
Richard Douglas
Clancee Pearce
David Armitage
Alex Woodward
James Polkinghorne
Michael Rischitelli
Ryan Crowley
Michael Evans
Rohan Bail
Matt Jones
Mark Hutchings

Rucks:
Shane Mumford
Sam Rowe
Orren Stephenson
Ben Dowdell (R)

Forwards:
Chris Knights
David Hale (F/R)
Luke Breust
Tory Dickson
Lewis Johnston
Lindsay Thomas
Paul Puopolo
Jared Petrenko
Bradley Hartman
Ashton Hams
Jordon Bourke (R)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on September 04, 2013, 12:49:02 PM
Hutchy! Haha :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 04, 2013, 12:55:18 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 04, 2013, 12:49:02 PM
Hutchy! Haha :P

100% serious.  ;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 04, 2013, 01:12:08 PM
Just noticed that Cairo has been misspelled in the Worlds Team Directory this whole time as 'Cario'.  :o :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 04, 2013, 01:26:50 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 04, 2013, 01:12:08 PM
Just noticed that Cairo has been misspelled in the Worlds Team Directory this whole time as 'Cario'.  :o :(

:/ my badio
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on September 04, 2013, 01:30:43 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 04, 2013, 01:26:50 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 04, 2013, 01:12:08 PM
Just noticed that Cairo has been misspelled in the Worlds Team Directory this whole time as 'Cario'.  :o :(

:/ my badio

lolio
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on September 04, 2013, 06:19:11 PM
Hey all,

Know a few of you were interested in Kerridge - he is now part of a deal which will probably be announced tomorrow night, so if there are any final offers with him involved please send it to Toga or I ASAP.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 04, 2013, 06:24:34 PM
Might let people who had a vested interest in him that Danny Stanley is likely to be wrapped up in a deal now, if you would like to make an offer for him, please do so in the next 24 hours if possible.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: pothead on September 05, 2013, 09:22:34 PM
Hey everyone, im looking to move one pick 1 for the best offer i can get ive had a few inquiries about it already, but i am looking for either a ruckman or a backman or forward, send me your offers  :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on September 05, 2013, 09:23:38 PM
Matthew Stokes, John Butcher, Jamie Cripps, David Swallow and Kane Lucas are taking their last looks at Germany. If you want in, now is the time!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on September 07, 2013, 10:27:40 AM
Add to that Shane Edwards who is looking for a new home
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 07, 2013, 10:43:30 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 07, 2013, 10:27:40 AM
Add to that Shane Edwards who is looking for a new home

:o Totally forgot to ask about him, it's okay, we'll settle for who we received.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on September 07, 2013, 10:53:30 AM
Posted in the other thread but may as well chuck it here too. PM us your best offers for either Nicholls or Witts, as one of them will leave Pacific :o we are looking for draft picks, backs & fwds this trade period.

The two Jack's, Martin and Viney are in some serious talks and if you want either one you are going to have to chuck me a PM with a very nice offer :P

Sam Gibson and Chris Dawes are available for draft picks if you're interested in some depth.

Cheers lads.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 08, 2013, 02:04:38 PM
Tokyo starting to look like a half decent team now if Mitchell gets DPP

Mitchell, Suckling, Carlisle, Suban
Jack, Shuey, Scooter, Judd
Nicholls/Simpson
Tippett, Dahlhaus, Motlop, Henderson
Parker, Broughton
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on September 08, 2013, 02:05:54 PM
Big if however.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on September 08, 2013, 04:03:51 PM
My forward line is terrible. Will trade 1/2 of my mids to get some. Come on, help a brother out ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: AFEV on September 08, 2013, 04:06:34 PM
Has a little bit too much Judd in it KB. :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on September 08, 2013, 09:09:53 PM
You really don't need Scooter kb ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 08, 2013, 09:14:04 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 08, 2013, 09:09:53 PM
You really don't need Scooter kb ;)

lol Holz want him to put the Brothers together he reckons
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on September 08, 2013, 09:16:35 PM
DON'T GIVE HIM ANYTHING! :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 08, 2013, 09:17:20 PM
don't worry Boomz has me on a leash lol
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Maca24 on September 09, 2013, 12:49:19 PM
Pick 17 is up for sale.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on September 09, 2013, 01:17:36 PM
Im not actively looking to trade anymore, have made the big moves I wanted to do and the team is basically finished.

Will still accept offers but the only deal im really looking at its Jed Anderson for a Forward.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Maca24 on September 11, 2013, 08:30:11 AM
Looking for a depth defender and a premium midfielder.
I have Yarran, Ebert, Vince, Waite and picks for sale.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 12, 2013, 11:37:24 AM
Lukas Markovic (already delisted by the Dogs), Sam Siggins, Rohan Bail, Orren Stephenson, Ben Dowdell, Ashtons Hams (retired) and Brad Hartman are more than likely going to be our delistings, so if anyone wants any of them (unlikely I know), now's your chance.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 12, 2013, 04:30:31 PM

I'm impressed by Royal and former Wolf Ben Hudson going around again, keeps-on-keeping-on!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jukes on September 12, 2013, 07:06:34 PM
Update

Pending Delistments/Retirements
T. Williams, J. Blake, B. Dick, S. Tuck

On the Trade Table
R. Murphy, D. Tyson, M. Clarke, S. Higgins, J. Hutchins, K. Hardingham, C. Gault, R. Tambling

Neutral
J. Mellington, C. Sinclair, J. Frawley, L. Adams, J. Thomas, S. May, T. Vickery, J. Growden, D. Fletcher, J. Allen, F. McInnes, A. Sexton, J. Ceglar, S. Menegola, E. Wallace, N. Joyce, G. Burbury

Valued and Would Rather Keep
D. Martin, A. Monfries, J. Hombsch, S. Colquhoun, S. Docherty

Probably Unavailable
P. Seedsman, N. Naitanui, R. Griffen, C. Dixon, H. Shaw, C. Ward, D. Heppell, J. O'Meara, J. Hogan

Positions Targeted
Defenders and Ruckmen

Draft Picks up for Sale
Most of them- currently have 10, 14, 31, 53 and 89.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on September 12, 2013, 07:07:13 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 12, 2013, 04:30:31 PM

I'm impressed by Royal and former Wolf Ben Hudson going around again, keeps-on-keeping-on!
With no Jolly (should play elsewhere though) would be very handy right about now.... :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on September 12, 2013, 07:18:42 PM
If anyone has any proven defenders, younger than 25 that you want to get rid of, chuck me a PM and we could do a deal. Keen to strengthen the backs, have good stuff to offer!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: pothead on September 12, 2013, 10:23:15 PM
Once again everyone the Warriors are looking at there options with the number 1 pick so if anyone is interested send in an offer
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on September 13, 2013, 06:23:06 PM
Will be on www.ffelitechat.webs.com all night tonight, so swing by if you want to discuss trades :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on September 13, 2013, 07:10:17 PM
If I get my assignment done I will Jay ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on September 18, 2013, 07:40:17 PM
Been a little quiet these days around here  :-X

Aside from maybe one or two sorta small trades I might do, I am stuck in the: "I wanna strengthen my list but I don't want to give up any of my players" situation lol
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 18, 2013, 08:24:32 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 18, 2013, 07:40:17 PM
Been a little quiet these days around here  :-X

Aside from maybe one or two sorta small trades I might do, I am stuck in the: "I wanna strengthen my list but I don't want to give up any of my players" situation lol

Hold on bro, I can't feel that fast.  :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on September 18, 2013, 09:02:18 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 18, 2013, 08:24:32 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 18, 2013, 07:40:17 PM
Been a little quiet these days around here  :-X

Aside from maybe one or two sorta small trades I might do, I am stuck in the: "I wanna strengthen my list but I don't want to give up any of my players" situation lol

Hold on bro, I can't feel that fast.  :(

Lol Nige
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 18, 2013, 09:05:12 PM
I'm kinda sitting around, twiddling my thumbs, waiting for AFL trades and drafts to take place now.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 18, 2013, 09:12:01 PM
Gathered as much since theres been a comment of yours in every single thread niv opened this week.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 18, 2013, 09:12:40 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 18, 2013, 09:12:01 PM
Gathered as much since theres been a comment of yours in every single thread niv opened this week.

Quality observations skills champ.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on September 18, 2013, 09:14:21 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 18, 2013, 09:12:01 PM
Gathered as much since theres been a comment of yours in every single thread niv opened this week.
Haha bloody oath mate!

Btw any of you guys can trade with me if you want. Pretty bored lol.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on September 21, 2013, 11:35:25 AM
Here are all the Jim Stynes and MVP award results, I said I would give them out eventually  :P Just haven't been bothered until now.

Feel free to use or not use them in your team threads, putting them out just in case  others wanted to use them  :)

Sorry about messiness.

Beijing Thunder
MVP                  Rank Votes
Harry Taylor   37   7
Brent Guerra   60   5
Cale Hooker   76   4
Sam Mayes           97   3
Eddie Betts           138   2
Matthew Kreuzer   138   2
Darren Glass   183   1
Jackson Thurlow   183   1
Scott Gumbleton   183   1
      
Jim Stynes   Rank   Votes
Matthew Kreuzer   8   14
Harry Taylor   40   7
Oliver Wines   50   6
Sam Kerridge   93   3
Brent Guerra   119   2
Eddie Betts           119   2
Cale Hooker   156   1
      
Berlin Brewers      
MVP   Rank   Votes
Jack Steven           18   9
Matthew Stokes   28   8
Lachlan Henderson 37   7
Daniel Wells   45   6
Michael Hibberd   45   6
Colin Garland   76   4
Daniel Jackson   97   3
Jack Grimes           97   3
Lance Franklin   97   3
Tom McDonald   97   3
Kane Lucas          138   2
      
Jim Stynes   Rank   Votes
Daniel Wells   24   10
Jack Steven      24   10
Jack Grimes           50   6
Lance Franklin   50   6
Daniel Jackson   60   5
Lachlan Henderson   60   5
Matthew Stokes   60   5
Michael Hibberd   119   2
Brad Crouch   156   1
Shane Edwards   156   1
      
Buenos Aires Armadillos      
MVP   Rank   Votes
Drew Petrie   10   10
Scott D Thompson   10   10
Steve Johnson   10   10
Dane Swan   28   8
Kane Cornes   28   8
Brent Harvey   37   7
Dean Cox   45   6
Jay Schulz   45   6
Michael Barlow   60   5
Shaun Burgoyne   76   4
Jarred Brennan   138   2
Matthew Boyd   183   1
Robbie Warnock   183   1
      
Jim Stynes   Rank   Votes
Dane Swan   5   15
Dean Cox   21   11
Kane Cornes   40   7
Michael Barlow   40   7
Steve Johnson   40   7
Drew Petrie   50   6
Brent Harvey   60   5
Bradd Dalziell   76   4
Scott D Thompson   76   4
Matthew Boyd   93   3
Robbie Warnock   119   2
Jay Schulz   156   1
      
Cairo Sands      
MVP   Rank   Votes
Nick Malceski   5   13
Pearce Hanley   6   12
Nick Dal Santo   28   8
David Hale   37   7
Luke Breust   45   6
David Armitage   60   5
Richard Douglas   76   4
Dayne Beams   97   3
Mark Hutchings   97   3
Shane Mumford   138   2
Clancee Pearce   183   1
Josh Gibson   183   1
Lindsay Thomas   183   1
Tory Dickson   183   1
      
Jim Stynes   Rank   Votes
Nick Dal Santo   24   10
Richard Douglas   31   9
Pearce Hanley   33   8
David Armitage   40   7
Nick Malceski   60   5
Shane Mumford   60   5
Dayne Beams   93   3
Mark Hutchings   93   3
David Hale   119   2
Tory Dickson   119   2
Brad Sewell   156   1
Chris Newman   156   1
Clancee Pearce   156   1

Cape Town Cobras      
MVP   Rank   Votes
Jeff Garlett   10   10
Jobe Watson   10   10
Trent Cotchin   28   8
Ryan O'Keefe   45   6
Josh P Kennedy   76   4
Adam Cooney   97   3
Craig Bird   97   3
James Gwilt   97   3
Tom Hawkins   97   3
Colin Sylvia   138   2
Dale Thomas   138   2
Greg Broughton   138   2
Troy Chaplin   138   2
Jeremy Cameron   183   1
      
Jim Stynes   Rank   Votes
Jobe Watson   4   16
Josh P Kennedy   14   12
Ryan O'Keefe   21   11
Trent Cotchin   24   10
Adam Cooney   50   6
Craig Bird   76   4
Jeff Garlett   76   4
Greg Broughton   93   3
Dale Thomas   119   2
Nathan Vardy   119   2
Zac Smith   119   2
Jeremy Cameron   156   1
      
Dublin  Destroyers      
MVP   Rank   Votes
Joel Selwood   18   9
Todd Goldstein   18   9
Travis Boak   45   6
Jack Redden   60   5
Robbie Gray   60   5
Aaron Black   76   4
Alex Rance   97   3
Lachlan Hansen   97   3
Jack Watts   138   2
Shaun Atley   138   2
David Mundy   183   1
Sam Day   183   1
Thomas Murphy   183   1
      
Jim Stynes   Rank   Votes
Joel Selwood   8   14
Todd Goldstein   10   13
Travis Boak   24   10
Jack Redden   33   8
David Mundy   60   5
Aaron Black   119   2
Alex Rance   119   2
Jack Watts   156   1
      
London Royals      
MVP   Rank   Votes
Harry O'Brien   37   7
Danyle Pearce   45   6
Jarrad McVeigh   45   6
Ben Reid   60   5
Brent Staker   76   4
Chris Mayne   76   4
Jonathan Brown   76   4
Andrew Mackie   97   3
Dan Hannebery   97   3
Tom Bellchambers   97   3
Brent Reilly   138   2
David Mackay   138   2
Jason Winderlich   138   2
      
Jim Stynes   Rank   Votes
Dan Hannebery   14   12
Jarrad McVeigh   14   12
Harry O'Brien   60   5
Ben Reid   93   3
Brent Reilly   93   3
Brent Stanton   93   3
Chris Mayne   119   2
Danyle Pearce   119   2
Jason Winderlich   119   2
Jonathan Brown   119   2
Tom Bellchambers   119   2
Andrew Mackie   156   1
Brent Staker   156   1
      
Mexico City Suns      
MVP   Rank   Votes
Nick Riewoldt   2   15
Shannon Hurn   18   9
Steele Sidebottom   18   9
Jed Adcock   28   8
Jordan Lewis   28   8
Brendon Goddard   37   7
Jimmy Bartel   60   5
Bradley Ebert   97   3
Brian Lake   97   3
Corey Enright   97   3
Mark LeCras   97   3
Scott Thompson   97   3
Ivan Maric   138   2
Luke Hodge   138   2
Daniel Merrett   183   1
      
Jim Stynes   Rank   Votes
Steele Sidebottom   14   12
Nick Riewoldt   24   10
Jimmy Bartel   50   6
Jordan Lewis   50   6
Luke Hodge   60   5
Bradley Ebert   76   4
Scott Thompson   76   4
Brendon Goddard   93   3
Jarrad Waite   93   3
Corey Enright   119   2
Daniel Merrett   119   2
Jed Adcock   119   2
Mark LeCras   156   1
      
Moscow Spetsnaz      
MVP   Rank   Votes
Dustin Martin   2   15
Ryan Griffen   8   11
Robert Murphy   28   8
Charlie Dixon   45   6
Angus Monfries   60   5
Heath Shaw   60   5
Leigh Adams   60   5
Nic Naitanui   76   4
Jack Darling   138   2
Callan Ward   183   1
      
Jim Stynes   Rank   Votes
Ryan Griffen   3   17
Dustin Martin   33   8
Heath Shaw   33   8
Callan Ward   40   7
Nic Naitanui   50   6
Nat Fyfe   60   5
Robert Murphy   60   5
Charlie Dixon   93   3
Jack Darling   156   1
      
New Delhi Tigers      
MVP   Rank   Votes
Garrick Ibbotson   60   5
Leigh Montagna   76   4
Aaron Mullett   97   3
James Podsiadly   97   3
Rhys Palmer   97   3
Ben Rutten   138   2
Ryan Bastinac   138   2
Jarryd Blair   183   1
Nick Vlastuin   183   1
Sharrod Wellingham   183   1
      
Jim Stynes   Rank   Votes
Leigh Montagna   14   12
Garrick Ibbotson   33   8
Aaron Mullett   50   6
Ryan Bastinac   76   4
Daniel Giansiracusa   93   3
Max Bailey   119   2
Nick Vlastuin   119   2
Rhys Palmer   119   2
Sharrod Wellingham   119   2
      
New York Revolution      
MVP   Rank   Votes
Tom Liberatore   18   9
Travis Cloke   45   6
Trent McKenzie   60   5
Dyson Heppell   76   4
Grant Birchall   76   4
Allen Christensen   97   3
Brodie Smith   97   3
Courtney Dempsey   97   3
Andrew Gaff   138   2
Arryn Siposs   138   2
Harley Bennell   138   2
Jonathan Giles   138   2
Josh Jenkins   138   2
Koby Stevens   138   2
Tom Lee   138   2
Dion Prestia   183   1
      
Jim Stynes   Rank   Votes
Tom Liberatore   5   15
Travis Cloke   40   7
Dion Prestia   76   4
Allen Christensen   93   3
Grant Birchall   93   3
Dyson Heppell   119   2
Harley Bennell   119   2
Jonathan Giles   119   2
Courtney Dempsey   156   1
Koby Stevens   156   1
Mike Pyke   156   1
Trent McKenzie   156   1
      
Pacific Islanders      
MVP   Rank   Votes
Matthew de Boer   76   4
Matthew Leuenberger   76   4
Dean Terlich   97   3
Jamie Elliott   97   3
Chris Dawes   138   2
Curtly Hampton   138   2
Jeremy Howe   138   2
Tim Mohr   138   2
Ben Howlett   183   1
Rhys Stanley   183   1
Tom Rockliff   183   1
      
Jim Stynes   Rank   Votes
Tom Rockliff   10   13
Matthew Leuenberger   33   8
Ben Howlett   93   3
Jamie Elliott   93   3
Dean Terlich   119   2
Tom Mitchell   119   2
Jeremy Howe   156   1
      
PNL Reindeers      
MVP   Rank   Votes
Justin Westhoff   10   10
Jarrod Harbrow   45   6
Chad Wingard   60   5
Marley Williams   76   4
Cyril Rioli   97   3
Luke Ball   97   3
Luke McPharlin   97   3
Tom T Lynch   97   3
Jonathon Griffin   138   2
Matt Priddis   138   2
Matthew Pavlich   138   2
      
Jim Stynes   Rank   Votes
Justin Westhoff   10   13
Chad Wingard   60   5
Cyril Rioli   76   4
Matt Priddis   76   4
Kade Simpson   93   3
Luke Ball   93   3
Jarrod Harbrow   119   2
Nathan Jones   119   2
Tom T Lynch   119   2
Jonathon Griffin   156   1
      
Sao Paulo Pumas      
MVP   Rank   Votes
Andrew Walker   1   16
Gary Ablett jnr   4   14
Hamish Hartlett   18   9
Jarryd Roughead   18   9
Rory Sloane   37   7
Bachar Houli   45   6
Dylan Roberton   76   4
Devon Smith   97   3
Will Minson   97   3
Beau Waters   138   2
Chris Masten   138   2
Jack Gunston   138   2
Mitch Duncan   183   1
      
Jim Stynes   Rank   Votes
Gary Ablett jnr   1   21
Andrew Walker   14   12
Will Minson   31   9
Rory Sloane   40   7
Jarryd Roughead   60   5
Hamish Hartlett   76   4
Chris Masten   93   3
Mitch Duncan   119   2
Jack Gunston   156   1
Sam Jacobs   156   1
Stephen Hill   156   1
      
Seoul Magpies      
MVP   Rank   Votes
Josh J Kennedy   8   11
Brett Deledio   10   10
Brandon Ellis   18   9
Patrick Dangerfield   37   7
Bryce Gibbs   97   3
Tom $cully   97   3
Brent Macaffer   138   2
Jude Bolton   138   2
Paul Duffield   138   2
Ben McEvoy   183   1
      
Jim Stynes   Rank   Votes
Patrick Dangerfield   5   15
Brett Deledio   14   12
Ben McEvoy   24   10
Josh J Kennedy   60   5
Brandon Ellis   76   4
Bryce Gibbs   76   4
Chris Yarran   156   1
James Kelly   156   1
Tom $cully   156   1
      
Tokyo Samurai      
MVP   Rank   Votes
Sam Mitchell   28   8
Kieran Jack   45   6
Kurt Tippett   60   5
Luke Dahlhaus   60   5
Ricky Henderson   76   4
Scott Selwood   76   4
Chris Judd   97   3
Nick Suban   138   2
Steven Motlop   138   2
Ben McGlynn   183   1
Ben Stratton   183   1
Jake Carlisle   183   1
Luke Shuey   183   1
      
Jim Stynes   Rank   Votes
Kieran Jack   10   13
Sam Mitchell   21   11
Scott Selwood   40   7
Chris Judd   50   6
Steven Motlop   76   4
Luke Shuey   93   3
Ricky Henderson   93   3
Jake Carlisle   119   2
Kurt Tippett   119   2
Luke Dahlhaus   119   2
Nick Suban   119   2
Luke Parker   156   1
      
Toronto Wolves      
MVP   Rank   Votes
Scott Pendlebury   6   12
Jack Riewoldt   10   10
Michael Johnson   18   9
Mitch Robinson   45   6
Paddy Ryder   76   4
Darren Jolly   97   3
Matt Shaw   97   3
Aaron Hall   138   2
Dayne Zorko   183   1
Sam Butler   183   1
      
Jim Stynes   Rank   Votes
Scott Pendlebury   2   19
Jack Riewoldt   33   8
Ben Cunnington   60   5
Andrew Swallow   76   4
Darren Jolly   76   4
Dayne Zorko   76   4
Mitch Robinson   93   3
Paddy Ryder   93   3
Sam Butler   93   3
Cameron Pedersen   156   1
Michael Johnson   156   1
      
Wellington Warriors      
MVP   Rank   Votes
Joel Patfull   60   5
Luke McGuane   76   4
Shannon Byrnes   97   3
Andrew Krakouer   138   2
Mitch Golby   138   2
Taylor Walker   138   2
Lenny Hayes   183   1
Rohan Bewick   183   1
Rory Thompson   183   1
Ryan Lester   183   1
      
Jim Stynes   Rank   Votes
Marc Murphy   40   7
Isaac Smith   60   5
Lachie Whitfield   93   3
Lenny Hayes   93   3
Ryan Lester   119   2
Tendai Mzungu   156   1


Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on September 21, 2013, 02:19:43 PM
Cheers Purps! Gave you a cheer for them 8). It is the off-season, so nobody should complain when you gave them out :P.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 21, 2013, 03:35:11 PM
Nice work Purps - Well done.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on September 21, 2013, 03:49:41 PM
Awesome work Purps!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on September 21, 2013, 04:10:17 PM
Cheers HP, everyone :)

May or may not do it again next year, was indeed a fair bit of work that I put days into. Depends on how Uni life works out  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 21, 2013, 04:16:19 PM
Spreadsheets runs in the family  ;) ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on September 21, 2013, 05:16:43 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 21, 2013, 04:16:19 PM
Spreadsheets runs in the family  ;) ;)

Lol Ringo, ossie actually did teach me how to make them when I was little  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on September 21, 2013, 05:27:52 PM
How are those votes coming along? Think that would spark some discussion!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on September 21, 2013, 05:52:48 PM
Quote from: Master Q on September 21, 2013, 05:27:52 PM
How are those votes coming along? Think that would spark some discussion!

Ah, you mean the Jim Stynes Medal and MVP award? I did that ages ago, what I just posted was the club-by-club results
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on September 21, 2013, 05:55:53 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 21, 2013, 05:52:48 PM
Quote from: Master Q on September 21, 2013, 05:27:52 PM
How are those votes coming along? Think that would spark some discussion!

Ah, you mean the Jim Stynes Medal and MVP award? I did that ages ago, what I just posted was the club-by-club results
I meant the PM for voting on trades  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on September 21, 2013, 06:34:53 PM
Quote from: Master Q on September 21, 2013, 05:55:53 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 21, 2013, 05:52:48 PM
Quote from: Master Q on September 21, 2013, 05:27:52 PM
How are those votes coming along? Think that would spark some discussion!

Ah, you mean the Jim Stynes Medal and MVP award? I did that ages ago, what I just posted was the club-by-club results
I meant the PM for voting on trades  ;)

Ah!  :-[
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on September 25, 2013, 09:49:22 AM
So if you have a good defender up for sale or are interested in an Islander or two, please PM tbag and if you like, me as well. Reason is, I'll be less active over the next 2.5 weeks as going away, so won't be able to reply to PMs as quick as tbag.

He is under strict instructions to consult with me before confirming though, so dont think you'll be getting an easy win ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 25, 2013, 09:51:07 AM
What's going on with Nicholls ?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on September 25, 2013, 09:55:16 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 25, 2013, 09:51:07 AM
What's going on with Nicholls ?
Not much at the moment. Had 2 offers we dont mind (yours was one) but having trouble getting anything across the line. Need to get a reply from another coach first :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on September 25, 2013, 09:17:43 PM
Heavy rumors coming out of the PNL camp that some players are not happy with the current coaching staff
made all the worse by the admin in Ossie85 point out that PNL over the last 2 seasons are the 8th highest scorers but have won the equal lowest amount of games

it is rumored some players believe the coaching staff are to blame for this and may be looking for a change

of course this is all innuendo and not proof has been found but the rumor suggest the likes of
mcpharlin/Pav/Westy/Priddis/ nathan Jones/smith

all could be looking for other options

of course when the question of these players future was put to Senior assistant DazBurg he had this to say
"I would like everyone to know that not 1 of these players has formally asked myself or Senior Coach Hellopplz for a trade they are required players as far as we are concerned and we look forward to the pre-season and going about having a successful season next year"
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 26, 2013, 08:05:00 AM
Trouble in Parisdise! (eck, bad pun)

Quote from: DazBurg on September 25, 2013, 09:17:43 PM
made all the worse by the admin in Ossie85 point out that PNL over the last 2 seasons are the 8th highest scorers but have won the equal lowest amount of games

Those stats were a while ago! PNL now have scored 9th most points overall, and have the equal 2nd least amount of wins :P

(excluding finals)

Position   Name   Score   Scored Against   Wins   Loses   Percentage   Average
1   Mexico City Suns   5085   4443   31   3   114.45   149.56
2   Sao Paulo Pumas   5187   4527   28   6   114.58   152.56
3   Buenos Aires Armadillos   4868   4443   24   10   109.57   143.18
4   Cape Town Cobras   4793   4552   24   10   105.29   140.97
5   Moscow Spetsnaz   4677   4556   23   11   102.66   137.56
6   Toronto Wolves   4775   4602   19   15   103.76   140.44
7   Cairo Sands   4560   4507   18   16   101.18   134.12
8   Seoul Magpies   4699   4567   16   18   102.89   138.21
9   London Royals   4493   4463   16   18   100.67   132.15
10   Berlin Brewers   4458   4470   15   19   99.73   131.12
11   Wellington Warriors   4247   4609   13   21   92.15   124.91
12   New York Revolution   4347   4584   12   22   94.83   127.85
13   Dublin Destroyers   4351   4663   12   22   93.31   127.97
14   Beijing Thunder   4221   4547   12   22   92.83   124.15
15   Paris Nice Lyon Reindeers   4546   4636   11   23   98.06   133.71
16   Tokyo Samurai   4515   4657   11   23   96.95   132.79
17   New Delhi Tigers   4068   4552   11   23   89.37   119.65
18   Pacific Islanders   4108   4620   10   24   88.92   120.82
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on September 26, 2013, 08:56:18 AM
10th makes a lot of sense to me, seeing as the middle position between 16th and 4th is 10th  ;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on September 26, 2013, 10:04:19 AM
Only team to average over 150 for the two seasons 8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 26, 2013, 10:30:53 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 26, 2013, 08:05:00 AM

Position   Name   Score   Scored Against   Wins   Loses   Percentage   Average
1   Mexico City Suns   5085   4443   31   3   114.45   149.56
2   Sao Paulo Pumas   5187   4527   28   6   114.58   152.56
3   Buenos Aires Armadillos   4868   4443   24   10   109.57   143.18
4   Cape Town Cobras   4793   4552   24   10   105.29   140.97
5   Moscow Spetsnaz   4677   4556   23   11   102.66   137.56
6   Toronto Wolves   4775   4602   19   15   103.76   140.44
7   Cairo Sands   4560   4507   18   16   101.18   134.12
8   Seoul Magpies   4699   4567   16   18   102.89   138.21
9   London Royals   4493   4463   16   18   100.67   132.15
10   Berlin Brewers   4458   4470   15   19   99.73   131.12
11   Wellington Warriors   4247   4609   13   21   92.15   124.91
12   New York Revolution   4347   4584   12   22   94.83   127.85
13   Dublin Destroyers   4351   4663   12   22   93.31   127.97
14   Beijing Thunder   4221   4547   12   22   92.83   124.15
15   Paris Nice Lyon Reindeers   4546   4636   11   23   98.06   133.71
16   Tokyo Samurai   4515   4657   11   23   96.95   132.79
17   New Delhi Tigers   4068   4552   11   23   89.37   119.65
18   Pacific Islanders   4108   4620   10   24   88.92   120.82

Green = Finals both years
Yellow = Finals 1 year
Red = Finals neither year
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 26, 2013, 10:32:53 AM
Seoul forever robbed!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 26, 2013, 10:34:37 AM
#GoCairo
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on October 01, 2013, 05:53:38 PM
Well, I thought Buddy would benefit SC wise with a move to GWS, and that thinking started at June I don't know what to think now!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 01, 2013, 05:57:45 PM
il trade you my 3rd round pick for him :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on October 02, 2013, 08:03:28 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 01, 2013, 05:53:38 PM
Well, I thought Buddy would benefit SC wise with a move to GWS, and that thinking started at June I don't know what to think now!

I actually think he'll do really well at Sydney...

Barry Hall had a year where he averaged like 130 one year for Sydney!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on October 02, 2013, 08:53:31 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on October 02, 2013, 08:03:28 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 01, 2013, 05:53:38 PM
Well, I thought Buddy would benefit SC wise with a move to GWS, and that thinking started at June I don't know what to think now!

I actually think he'll do really well at Sydney...

Barry Hall had a year where he averaged like 130 one year for Sydney!

God I hope so lol, he BETTER average 100+ next year, considering all the offers I turned down for him  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 02, 2013, 10:07:04 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 02, 2013, 08:53:31 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on October 02, 2013, 08:03:28 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 01, 2013, 05:53:38 PM
Well, I thought Buddy would benefit SC wise with a move to GWS, and that thinking started at June I don't know what to think now!

I actually think he'll do really well at Sydney...

Barry Hall had a year where he averaged like 130 one year for Sydney!

God I hope so lol, he BETTER average 100+ next year, considering all the offers I turned down for him  :P

If I didn't already offer a bag of chips, well... that offer is now on the table.  ;)

Would complete out all Hawks for... Oh wait.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on October 02, 2013, 11:21:01 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 02, 2013, 10:07:04 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 02, 2013, 08:53:31 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on October 02, 2013, 08:03:28 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 01, 2013, 05:53:38 PM
Well, I thought Buddy would benefit SC wise with a move to GWS, and that thinking started at June I don't know what to think now!

I actually think he'll do really well at Sydney...

Barry Hall had a year where he averaged like 130 one year for Sydney!

God I hope so lol, he BETTER average 100+ next year, considering all the offers I turned down for him  :P

If I didn't already offer a bag of chips, well... that offer is now on the table.  ;)

Would complete out all Hawks for... Oh wait.

hehe  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on October 05, 2013, 02:55:54 PM
Kinda wish I didn't trade Sylvia now that he's on his way to Freo! Could really get his act together this season.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on October 07, 2013, 09:43:18 AM
Hey os just a quick question.

I know it is possible to upgrade someone from your rookie list to your senior list by using one of your picks in the draft to do so, but is it possible to do the reverse? As in move someone from your senior list to your rookie list? Like for example what Essendon did with Ariel Steinberg last year...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on October 07, 2013, 10:18:08 AM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 07, 2013, 09:43:18 AM
Hey os just a quick question.

I know it is possible to upgrade someone from your rookie list to your senior list by using one of your picks in the draft to do so, but is it possible to do the reverse? As in move someone from your senior list to your rookie list? Like for example what Essendon did with Ariel Steinberg last year...

No, not the reverse. You can delist someone, and then pick them up as a rookie...

Must admit, not sure what happened with Ariel Steinberg though? What was the deal there?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on October 07, 2013, 10:53:31 AM
Not entirely sure of the details but it happened at collingwood with Peter Yagmoor too. The clubs announced that they would be moved to the rookie list, then used picks in the rookie draft to select them. Not sure if they were ever actually delisted though, so don't know if others could select them... ???
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on October 07, 2013, 11:16:43 AM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 07, 2013, 10:53:31 AM
Not entirely sure of the details but it happened at collingwood with Peter Yagmoor too. The clubs announced that they would be moved to the rookie list, then used picks in the rookie draft to select them. Not sure if they were ever actually delisted though, so don't know if others could select them... ???
Steinberg was delisted form the main list then redrafted i the rookie list
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 07, 2013, 01:55:58 PM
Yeah Daz is correct he got delisted with the intention of drafting him as a rookie
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on October 20, 2013, 09:44:50 AM
Looking at getting a second round pick. Someone like Brad Sheppard would be available :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on October 26, 2013, 01:06:02 PM
Sam Gibson is available to the highest bidder if anyone wants him :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on October 26, 2013, 03:47:56 PM
Jed Lamb doesn't play for Sydney anymore so he's up for trade :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 26, 2013, 03:59:10 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 26, 2013, 03:47:56 PM
Jed Lamb doesn't play for Sydney anymore so he's up for trade :P
Gimme.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: AFEV on October 26, 2013, 06:12:09 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 26, 2013, 03:47:56 PM
Jed Lamb doesn't play for Sydney anymore so he's up for trade :P
Do want.

Looking to trade lots of players, mostly midfielders but forward depth and Trent McKenzie also potentially.
Also trying to trade our second round picks. All of them.

Is that Godspeed You in your DP? Approve.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on October 26, 2013, 09:13:00 PM
Quote from: Sid on October 26, 2013, 06:12:09 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 26, 2013, 03:47:56 PM
Jed Lamb doesn't play for Sydney anymore so he's up for trade :P
Do want.

Looking to trade lots of players, mostly midfielders but forward depth and Trent McKenzie also potentially.
Also trying to trade our second round picks. All of them.

Is that Godspeed You in your DP? Approve.
Interested in McKenzie.

Also Godspeed (http://www.terranx.org/images/smilies/thumbs_up.png)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on October 26, 2013, 11:04:42 PM
Not sure if it's said somewhere but too lazy searching. How's the rookie promotions working here? Just curious as may elevate a few guys off the rookie list.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 26, 2013, 11:23:56 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on October 26, 2013, 11:04:42 PM
Not sure if it's said somewhere but too lazy searching. How's the rookie promotions working here? Just curious as may elevate a few guys off the rookie list.
I'm pretty sure it's done like the AFL? Using a late ND pick.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on October 26, 2013, 11:32:32 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 26, 2013, 11:23:56 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on October 26, 2013, 11:04:42 PM
Not sure if it's said somewhere but too lazy searching. How's the rookie promotions working here? Just curious as may elevate a few guys off the rookie list.
I'm pretty sure it's done like the AFL? Using a late ND pick.
Yep. You use your picks in the ND to promote them.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on October 27, 2013, 09:21:00 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 26, 2013, 11:32:32 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 26, 2013, 11:23:56 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on October 26, 2013, 11:04:42 PM
Not sure if it's said somewhere but too lazy searching. How's the rookie promotions working here? Just curious as may elevate a few guys off the rookie list.
I'm pretty sure it's done like the AFL? Using a late ND pick.
Yep. You use your picks in the ND to promote them.
Cheers fellas! Probably shouldn't have traded those late picks to the Islanders... Now we may need them back hahaha.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on October 27, 2013, 10:26:35 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on October 27, 2013, 09:21:00 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 26, 2013, 11:32:32 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 26, 2013, 11:23:56 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on October 26, 2013, 11:04:42 PM
Not sure if it's said somewhere but too lazy searching. How's the rookie promotions working here? Just curious as may elevate a few guys off the rookie list.
I'm pretty sure it's done like the AFL? Using a late ND pick.
Yep. You use your picks in the ND to promote them.
Cheers fellas! Probably shouldn't have traded those late picks to the Islanders... Now we may need them back hahaha.
You can always use a round 6 pick (or 7 or 8) ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on October 27, 2013, 10:28:15 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 27, 2013, 10:26:35 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on October 27, 2013, 09:21:00 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 26, 2013, 11:32:32 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 26, 2013, 11:23:56 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on October 26, 2013, 11:04:42 PM
Not sure if it's said somewhere but too lazy searching. How's the rookie promotions working here? Just curious as may elevate a few guys off the rookie list.
I'm pretty sure it's done like the AFL? Using a late ND pick.
Yep. You use your picks in the ND to promote them.
Cheers fellas! Probably shouldn't have traded those late picks to the Islanders... Now we may need them back hahaha.
You can always use a round 6 pick (or 7 or 8) ;)
do we have those since it isn't listed in the trade thread?
or do you get them by delisting extras?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on October 27, 2013, 10:31:51 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on October 27, 2013, 10:28:15 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 27, 2013, 10:26:35 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on October 27, 2013, 09:21:00 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 26, 2013, 11:32:32 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 26, 2013, 11:23:56 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on October 26, 2013, 11:04:42 PM
Not sure if it's said somewhere but too lazy searching. How's the rookie promotions working here? Just curious as may elevate a few guys off the rookie list.
I'm pretty sure it's done like the AFL? Using a late ND pick.
Yep. You use your picks in the ND to promote them.
Cheers fellas! Probably shouldn't have traded those late picks to the Islanders... Now we may need them back hahaha.
You can always use a round 6 pick (or 7 or 8) ;)
do we have those since it isn't listed in the trade thread?
or do you get them by delisting extras?
Yeah you have them. Just ossie doesn't want people trading ridiculously high numbers, so only shows up to round 5. Say you have 4 draft picks but you delist so you only have 35 on your list you will be given picks in rounds 6 and 7 to get up to 41 :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on October 27, 2013, 10:36:08 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 27, 2013, 10:31:51 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on October 27, 2013, 10:28:15 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 27, 2013, 10:26:35 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on October 27, 2013, 09:21:00 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 26, 2013, 11:32:32 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 26, 2013, 11:23:56 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on October 26, 2013, 11:04:42 PM
Not sure if it's said somewhere but too lazy searching. How's the rookie promotions working here? Just curious as may elevate a few guys off the rookie list.
I'm pretty sure it's done like the AFL? Using a late ND pick.
Yep. You use your picks in the ND to promote them.
Cheers fellas! Probably shouldn't have traded those late picks to the Islanders... Now we may need them back hahaha.
You can always use a round 6 pick (or 7 or 8) ;)
do we have those since it isn't listed in the trade thread?
or do you get them by delisting extras?
Yeah you have them. Just ossie doesn't want people trading ridiculously high numbers, so only shows up to round 5. Say you have 4 draft picks but you delist so you only have 35 on your list you will be given picks in rounds 6 and 7 to get up to 41 :)

awesome thanks CF  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on October 28, 2013, 09:44:39 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 27, 2013, 10:31:51 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on October 27, 2013, 10:28:15 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 27, 2013, 10:26:35 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on October 27, 2013, 09:21:00 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 26, 2013, 11:32:32 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 26, 2013, 11:23:56 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on October 26, 2013, 11:04:42 PM
Not sure if it's said somewhere but too lazy searching. How's the rookie promotions working here? Just curious as may elevate a few guys off the rookie list.
I'm pretty sure it's done like the AFL? Using a late ND pick.
Yep. You use your picks in the ND to promote them.
Cheers fellas! Probably shouldn't have traded those late picks to the Islanders... Now we may need them back hahaha.
You can always use a round 6 pick (or 7 or 8) ;)
do we have those since it isn't listed in the trade thread?
or do you get them by delisting extras?
Yeah you have them. Just ossie doesn't want people trading ridiculously high numbers, so only shows up to round 5. Say you have 4 draft picks but you delist so you only have 35 on your list you will be given picks in rounds 6 and 7 to get up to 41 :)
Anyone want pick 7000? :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 28, 2013, 09:55:59 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on October 28, 2013, 09:44:39 PM
Anyone want pick 7000? :P
Might pass on that.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on October 28, 2013, 10:22:29 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 28, 2013, 09:55:59 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on October 28, 2013, 09:44:39 PM
Anyone want pick 7000? :P
Might pass on that.  :P
I'm so confident  I'll offer you a trade in public.

Pick 7000 for Pick 7001 + Pick 7002?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 28, 2013, 10:26:24 PM
Quote from: Master Q on October 28, 2013, 10:22:29 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 28, 2013, 09:55:59 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on October 28, 2013, 09:44:39 PM
Anyone want pick 7000? :P
Might pass on that.  :P
I'm so confident  I'll offer you a trade in public.

Pick 7000 for Pick 7001 + Pick 7002?
I don't even think Os needs to send out a PM for this one. It's about as even and fair a trade as you'll ever see. 
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on October 28, 2013, 11:51:54 PM
Quote from: Master Q on October 28, 2013, 10:22:29 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 28, 2013, 09:55:59 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on October 28, 2013, 09:44:39 PM
Anyone want pick 7000? :P
Might pass on that.  :P
I'm so confident  I'll offer you a trade in public.

Pick 7000 for Pick 7001 + Pick 7002?
ZDawson for #7001?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 29, 2013, 09:59:34 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 28, 2013, 11:51:54 PM
Quote from: Master Q on October 28, 2013, 10:22:29 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 28, 2013, 09:55:59 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on October 28, 2013, 09:44:39 PM
Anyone want pick 7000? :P
Might pass on that.  :P
I'm so confident  I'll offer you a trade in public.

Pick 7000 for Pick 7001 + Pick 7002?
ZDawson for #7001?
Calm down there Ric, no need to pay overs.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 29, 2013, 10:04:37 AM
only way a trade with ZDawson would seem fair have to be something like

Pick 7001 + ZDawson

For

Pick 7005
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on October 29, 2013, 10:19:26 AM
hahaha he's worth -4 picks
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 31, 2013, 03:14:20 PM
Just updated Cairo's list after what I think might be the end of our trading (unless anyone approaches us), looks like we'll be needing another 3 picks in the International Draft to fill our list. Pretty sure that happened last year too... I wonder if I can snag another gem like Hutchy again.  ;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 01, 2013, 04:58:13 PM
Jezza Laidler has been picked up by the Swans.  ;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on November 01, 2013, 05:35:09 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on November 01, 2013, 04:58:13 PM
Jezza Laidler has been picked up by the Swans.  ;D

Should have given him to me when you had the chance :( aha
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 01, 2013, 05:52:56 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 01, 2013, 05:35:09 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on November 01, 2013, 04:58:13 PM
Jezza Laidler has been picked up by the Swans.  ;D

Should have given him to me when you had the chance :( aha
He's our boy. A proud Cairene.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on November 01, 2013, 05:56:03 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on November 01, 2013, 05:52:56 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 01, 2013, 05:35:09 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on November 01, 2013, 04:58:13 PM
Jezza Laidler has been picked up by the Swans.  ;D
Should have given him to me when you had the chance :( aha
He's our boy. A proud Cairene.

Not what I've been told...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 01, 2013, 05:59:48 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 01, 2013, 05:56:03 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on November 01, 2013, 05:52:56 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 01, 2013, 05:35:09 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on November 01, 2013, 04:58:13 PM
Jezza Laidler has been picked up by the Swans.  ;D
Should have given him to me when you had the chance :( aha
He's our boy. A proud Cairene.

Not what I've been told...
Well, I don't know who you've been listening to then. Must be a pretty shower source. Always been a man we've loved. Spiritual leader while he wasn't getting games this year.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on November 01, 2013, 06:02:31 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on November 01, 2013, 05:59:48 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 01, 2013, 05:56:03 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on November 01, 2013, 05:52:56 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 01, 2013, 05:35:09 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on November 01, 2013, 04:58:13 PM
Jezza Laidler has been picked up by the Swans.  ;D
Should have given him to me when you had the chance :( aha
He's our boy. A proud Cairene.
Not what I've been told...
Well, I don't know who you've been listening to then. Must be a pretty shower source. Always been a man we've loved. Spiritual leader while he wasn't getting games this year.

Straight from the boys mouth ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on November 01, 2013, 06:49:39 PM
Happy to announce Memphistopheles as assistant coach at Cape Town!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 01, 2013, 06:53:17 PM
Bugger guess i cant do any trades with you guys then memph said he would never discuss trading with me again lol
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 01, 2013, 06:54:33 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 01, 2013, 06:02:31 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on November 01, 2013, 05:59:48 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 01, 2013, 05:56:03 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on November 01, 2013, 05:52:56 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 01, 2013, 05:35:09 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on November 01, 2013, 04:58:13 PM
Jezza Laidler has been picked up by the Swans.  ;D
Should have given him to me when you had the chance :( aha
He's our boy. A proud Cairene.
Not what I've been told...
Well, I don't know who you've been listening to then. Must be a pretty shower source. Always been a man we've loved. Spiritual leader while he wasn't getting games this year.

Straight from the boys mouth ;)
I call bullshower. He's in the leadership group and we have ridiculously strong club culture. That began when Hutch came in.  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on November 01, 2013, 06:55:26 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 01, 2013, 06:53:17 PM
Bugger guess i cant do any trades with you guys then memph said he would never discuss trading with me again lol
Hahahaha, just come straight to the head coach  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 01, 2013, 06:59:18 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on November 01, 2013, 06:49:39 PM
Happy to announce Memphistopheles as assistant coach at Cape Town!
Welcome Memph!

Pity you've joined the showerter team in Africa.  ;)

#Cairo
#ThereIsOnlyOneTeamInAfrica
#YouAreAllInDaNile
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on November 01, 2013, 07:01:22 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on November 01, 2013, 06:49:39 PM
Happy to announce Memphistopheles as assistant coach at Cape Town!

Great signing!

When have you traded with memph before kb?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 01, 2013, 07:09:22 PM
in america's i offered him like Adams/Wellingham+Broadbent+ Kelly for Pendles + Ben Kennedy + NAT 15

When i was still new to trading and working out players worths and yeah but bit of an over reaction to just an offer

FYI i understand it was a terrible offer now but still
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on November 01, 2013, 08:20:20 PM
I woulda taken it, trade with us kb ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: specky92 on November 01, 2013, 10:50:05 PM
I'm found myself a lot of spare time recently so if anyone is in need of a trading consultant please don't hesitate to send me a pm, I like to think I'm very active these days. :)

Note: Not looking to be an assistant as I think I will be much busier during the season.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on November 02, 2013, 01:17:51 AM
Our defenders and mids seem a bit short at this stage. If you think you can help us out, we have good forward depth to offer :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 02, 2013, 01:45:18 AM
oh it was Jay i offered the deal to lol he posted it  ::) it and there was a debate and you said i was on the blacklist

(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j334/kilbluff1985/Capture-1.png) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/kilbluff1985/media/Capture-1.png.html)

water under the bridge i havnt really got a grudge over it was bored and tired when i brought it up
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on November 02, 2013, 04:04:27 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 02, 2013, 02:15:04 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 02, 2013, 01:45:18 AM
oh it was Jay i offered the deal to lol he posted it  ::) it and there was a debate and you said i was on the blacklist

(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j334/kilbluff1985/Capture-1.png) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/kilbluff1985/media/Capture-1.png.html)

water under the bridge i havnt really got a grudge over it was bored and tired when i brought it up

Fair enough. I'd long forgotten too

As long as you make reasonable offers then I'll be receptive. If someone makes too many rubbish offers though I'll lost interest in trading with them.
Jroo.... lol.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on November 06, 2013, 09:49:56 AM

Hi guys,

Announcing that Sid has stepped down as New York coach, with pyornerd now the sole coach of the team.

Oz
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on November 06, 2013, 09:52:37 AM
 :o
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 06, 2013, 10:33:50 AM
Still only expect monthly visits from Dane (pyro).  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 06, 2013, 11:03:19 AM
Hey all, just wanna give a heads up that I'll be down in Lorne from the 19th to the 22nd (coming back on the 22nd though), possibly without internet connection. Might try to steal some WiFi though. Not sure what date the draft is starting - 22nd or 23rd, if it's the former, I'll make sure somebody can pick for Cairo. If it's the latter, I'll be here.  :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: pyronerd on November 06, 2013, 01:17:44 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on November 06, 2013, 10:33:50 AM
Still only expect monthly visits from Dane (pyro).  :P
this month's visit has just been used

:P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 06, 2013, 01:52:31 PM
Quote from: pyronerd on November 06, 2013, 01:17:44 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on November 06, 2013, 10:33:50 AM
Still only expect monthly visits from Dane (pyro).  :P
this month's visit has just been used

:P
We expect you back at Christmas.  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on November 06, 2013, 02:43:17 PM
Quote from: pyronerd on November 06, 2013, 01:17:44 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on November 06, 2013, 10:33:50 AM
Still only expect monthly visits from Dane (pyro).  :P
this month's visit has just been used

:P

Your picture still never fails to make me laugh  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on November 06, 2013, 03:36:11 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on November 06, 2013, 09:49:56 AM
Hi guys,

Announcing that Sid has stepped down as New York coach, with pyornerd now the sole coach of the team.

Oz
Damn :(. Also only reason I'm doing the trade back was because Alex regretted it, and now he's gone :(. Daz and I really liked the trade so would have kept it otherwise :-X.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on November 06, 2013, 03:41:32 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on November 06, 2013, 03:36:11 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on November 06, 2013, 09:49:56 AM
Hi guys,

Announcing that Sid has stepped down as New York coach, with pyornerd now the sole coach of the team.

Oz
Damn :(. Also only reason I'm doing the trade back was because Alex regretted it, and now he's gone :(. Daz and I really liked the trade so would have kept it otherwise :-X.

I will get rejected anyway
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on November 07, 2013, 06:58:21 AM
Quote from: Holzman on November 06, 2013, 03:41:32 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on November 06, 2013, 03:36:11 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on November 06, 2013, 09:49:56 AM
Hi guys,

Announcing that Sid has stepped down as New York coach, with pyornerd now the sole coach of the team.

Oz
Damn :(. Also only reason I'm doing the trade back was because Alex regretted it, and now he's gone :(. Daz and I really liked the trade so would have kept it otherwise :-X.

I will get rejected anyway
Holz, you are rejected already :o
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on November 07, 2013, 07:52:15 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 06, 2013, 02:43:17 PM
Quote from: pyronerd on November 06, 2013, 01:17:44 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on November 06, 2013, 10:33:50 AM
Still only expect monthly visits from Dane (pyro).  :P
this month's visit has just been used

:P

Your picture still never fails to make me laugh  :P
It's invalid though.  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on November 19, 2013, 02:54:00 PM

Rightio, working on the 2014 fixture!

This is my tip for the new neutral rivalry round. Yell out now if you object, you'll be stuck with it for 2014 and 2015.

Sao Paulo   v   Mexico City      No explanation necessary
Moscow   v   Toronto      Finalists both years, disappointing in 2013, who can start the year on a positive? They also nominated themselves.
Berlin   v   London      Let's keep the war on the sporting field.
Buenos Aires   v   Cape Town      The two most succesful non-premiership teams, having faced off in a 2012 Prelim. Cape Town the 2012 runner-up, Buenos Aires top 4 both years.
New York   v   Pacific      John McCarthy Cup
Beijing   v   Wellington      From finalists, to bottom 2. Fall from grace, fight for pride
PNL   v   Seoul      Big scorers, big losers. Can't seem to buy wins the both of them. Everychance this will end in a draw
Dublin   v   Cairo      Big improvers in 2013 - tipped for big things in the future
New Delhi   v   Tokyo      These teams basically haven't achieved anything
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on November 19, 2013, 02:57:37 PM
gtfo Pumas are our rivalry. How can they not be? Knocking us out of prelim and history of great battles. We don't want any other rival!

Besides, why cape town? They're an easy beat. I don't want an easy beat rival.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on November 19, 2013, 02:59:04 PM
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/4713001472/hFB52C3B0/)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on November 19, 2013, 03:09:11 PM
Quote from: Nails on November 19, 2013, 02:57:37 PM
gtfo Pumas are our rivalry. How can they not be? Knocking us out of prelim and history of great battles. We don't want any other rival!

Besides, why cape town? They're an easy beat. I don't want an easy beat rival.

Grand Finals:

Buenos Aires: 0
Cape Town: 1 (after defeating Buenos Aires) ;P


Sao Paulo and Buenos Aires will play for the Rhythm Cup still, but doesn't seem to make sense to have these games played at a neutral ground all the time!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on November 19, 2013, 03:22:48 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on November 19, 2013, 02:54:00 PM
New Delhi   v   Tokyo      These teams basically haven't achieved anything

Hahahaha gold!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on November 20, 2013, 10:02:55 AM
So when is the draft going to start?
I'm guessing a few days after the rookie has been done so we have time to finalise our lists?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on November 20, 2013, 10:16:38 AM
Quote from: CrowsFan on November 20, 2013, 10:02:55 AM
So when is the draft going to start?
I'm guessing a few days after the rookie has been done so we have time to finalise our lists?

Pretty much :) Once the AFL teams have finalised there lists, I reckon we are good to go
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 20, 2013, 10:51:51 AM
really WXV NAT Draft starting after the AFL Rookie draft? why? BXV's NAT Draft is starting Friday night ;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on November 20, 2013, 11:04:27 AM
We do it this way so we know exactly who has been drafted and who we need to delist from our squads. Much better this way :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 20, 2013, 11:14:02 AM
Quote from: CrowsFan on November 20, 2013, 11:04:27 AM
We do it this way so we know exactly who has been drafted and who we need to delist from our squads. Much better this way :)
Won't lie, this is one thing WXVs does that is better than BXVs.  8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on November 20, 2013, 12:33:43 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on November 20, 2013, 11:14:02 AM
Quote from: CrowsFan on November 20, 2013, 11:04:27 AM
We do it this way so we know exactly who has been drafted and who we need to delist from our squads. Much better this way :)
Won't lie, this is one thing WXVs does that is better than BXVs.  8)

Amongst many other things  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 20, 2013, 12:38:38 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 20, 2013, 12:33:43 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on November 20, 2013, 11:14:02 AM
Quote from: CrowsFan on November 20, 2013, 11:04:27 AM
We do it this way so we know exactly who has been drafted and who we need to delist from our squads. Much better this way :)
Won't lie, this is one thing WXVs does that is better than BXVs.  8)

Amongst many other things  ;)

oh please...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: KoopKicka on November 20, 2013, 12:41:11 PM
#dontknowwhatImdoinghere
#AVXftwdoges
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on November 20, 2013, 12:54:07 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 20, 2013, 12:38:38 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 20, 2013, 12:33:43 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on November 20, 2013, 11:14:02 AM
Quote from: CrowsFan on November 20, 2013, 11:04:27 AM
We do it this way so we know exactly who has been drafted and who we need to delist from our squads. Much better this way :)
Won't lie, this is one thing WXVs does that is better than BXVs.  8)

Amongst many other things  ;)

oh please...
WXV the original and the best  8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on November 20, 2013, 01:49:18 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 19, 2013, 03:22:48 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on November 19, 2013, 02:54:00 PM
New Delhi   v   Tokyo      These teams basically haven't achieved anything
Hahahaha gold!
Made me chuckle as well ;D ;D.

Bring it Magpies, we shall beat you next time around >:D.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 20, 2013, 01:52:19 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on November 20, 2013, 01:49:18 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 19, 2013, 03:22:48 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on November 19, 2013, 02:54:00 PM
New Delhi   v   Tokyo      These teams basically haven't achieved anything
Hahahaha gold!
Made me chuckle as well ;D ;D.

Bring it Magpies, we shall beat you next time around >:D.

yet Tokyo has the most members :P, haters gonna hate
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on November 20, 2013, 03:03:10 PM
Going through last years draft thread...

Quote from: CrowsFan on December 18, 2012, 01:53:32 PM
Ok decided on my pick :)

Wasn't the most prolific midfielder this year (only averaging 80 DT in the TAC Cup) due to some hamstring injuries. Been described as extremely classy and has elite use by foot and hand. Likens himself to Pendles, so if he can turn out anywhere near as good as him I'll be happy :)

Jonathan O'Rourke
Quote from: Purple 77 on December 18, 2012, 01:54:51 PM
you would usually think Draft Pick 2 wouldn't go at 16 lol, so based on that I think its a steal!
Quote from: ossie85 on December 18, 2012, 01:55:01 PM

It amazes me that the #2 pick in the draft gets taken at #16!
Quote from: Hellopplz on December 18, 2012, 02:56:51 PM
And that was a great steal there with O'Rourke!
Quote from: Jayman on December 18, 2012, 03:06:58 PM
How did Orourke slip to #16 :o well done CF

Plays 1 game and scores 14... Hindsight's a dog! :-\
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on November 20, 2013, 03:28:51 PM
Haha yeah I know memph, I still expect him to turn out to be a quality player too. Just funny how little impact he had during his first season compared to the others.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on November 24, 2013, 10:46:42 PM
Want to get some discussions going since worlds is quite dead at the moment before the drafts, so...

With the first trading period over does anyone have any early predictions for next year? Who will storm up the ladder and take the league by storm, and who will sadly fall from grace? Dublin went from one of the worst teams around to playing in the final of the World Idol and just missing out on making the finals, where they would have had me and the other teams quite worried. Which team (if any) will do something similar this year?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 24, 2013, 10:49:52 PM
i think Tokyo can make the 8 and cause some trouble with any luck
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on November 24, 2013, 10:54:32 PM
Wellington to make a big move this year. Will depend when walker is back though. Dublin to take another step from mid table team to lock top 4.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on November 24, 2013, 11:03:17 PM
NDT to win everything.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on November 24, 2013, 11:12:03 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 24, 2013, 11:03:17 PM
NDT to win everything.

The spoon is definitely in your reach to win.

Sorry ele was just sitting there to say.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 24, 2013, 11:14:07 PM
Dublin for wooden spoon ;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on November 24, 2013, 11:14:42 PM
Quote from: Holzman on November 24, 2013, 11:12:03 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 24, 2013, 11:03:17 PM
NDT to win everything.

The spoon is definitely in your reach to win.

Sorry ele was just sitting there to say.

All good, dont care if we win the spoon if we also win the premiership, world idol, word star, world winner, world minor premier, world thingo, XV legend and errything else.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on November 24, 2013, 11:47:45 PM
Pacific and PNL will improve a fair bit
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 24, 2013, 11:52:32 PM
so nobody else think Tokyo will improve?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on November 24, 2013, 11:57:28 PM
Basically everyone just pumps up their own tyres in any predictions threads :P Hence, my silly answer.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 25, 2013, 12:00:50 AM
Quote from: elephants on November 24, 2013, 11:57:28 PM
Basically everyone just pumps up their own tyres in any predictions threads :P Hence, my silly answer.

i'm just generally curious i think we have traded pretty well to suit our teams need defense is much stronger now but our fortunes rest on Simpson/West getting games if they don't bottom 8 for us again :'(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on November 25, 2013, 12:02:08 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 24, 2013, 11:52:32 PM
so nobody else think Tokyo will improve?
Suckling returning from injury and the recruitment of Ibbo and Clisby will certainly help your defence. Plus Tippett for the whole year will be handy. I think you'll improve, but not enough to see you make an impact in the finals
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on November 25, 2013, 12:03:53 AM
As one of only two teams to boast having a 2013 premiership player on their squad I can see New Delhi jumping up the ladder next year. Again they won't make the 8, but we will see improvement :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 25, 2013, 12:07:42 AM
Quote from: CrowsFan on November 25, 2013, 12:02:08 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 24, 2013, 11:52:32 PM
so nobody else think Tokyo will improve?
Suckling returning from injury and the recruitment of Ibbo and Clisby will certainly help your defence. Plus Tippett for the whole year will be handy. I think you'll improve, but not enough to see you make an impact in the finals

yeah i'll be happy to just make the 8
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on November 25, 2013, 12:07:50 AM
Quote from: CrowsFan on November 25, 2013, 12:03:53 AM
As one of only two teams to boast having a 2013 premiership player on their squad I can see New Delhi jumping up the ladder next year. Again they won't make the 8, but we will see improvement :)

Haha #NDT-SPP #Alliance 8)

Seeing as we aren't genuine 2014 premiership threats, we will be throwing all our support behind Sao Paulo. We have even encouraged many of our single members to involve themselves with available members from Sao Paulo. We will one day construct a super-race of members making NDT and SPP the undoubted champions of WXV for the foreseeable future.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on November 25, 2013, 01:36:51 AM
Quote from: Jayman on November 24, 2013, 11:47:45 PM
Pacific and PNL will improve a fair bit
We say that about PNL every season so far, it has yet to happen :P. We can only hope 3rd time is the charm otherwise I'll stick to my word and step down :-X.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on November 25, 2013, 01:41:03 AM
Quote from: elephants on November 25, 2013, 12:07:50 AM
Quote from: CrowsFan on November 25, 2013, 12:03:53 AM
As one of only two teams to boast having a 2013 premiership player on their squad I can see New Delhi jumping up the ladder next year. Again they won't make the 8, but we will see improvement :)

Haha #NDT-SPP #Alliance 8)

Seeing as we aren't genuine 2014 premiership threats, we will be throwing all our support behind Sao Paulo. We have even encouraged many of our single members to involve themselves with available members from Sao Paulo. We will one day construct a super-race of members making NDT and SPP the undoubted champions of WXV for the foreseeable future.

Well that's a kick in the guts.

Dublin is currently tearing up the Destroyers Tigers alliance.  Throwing support to our toughest rival.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on November 25, 2013, 01:42:40 AM
Quote from: Holzman on November 25, 2013, 01:41:03 AM
Quote from: elephants on November 25, 2013, 12:07:50 AM
Quote from: CrowsFan on November 25, 2013, 12:03:53 AM
As one of only two teams to boast having a 2013 premiership player on their squad I can see New Delhi jumping up the ladder next year. Again they won't make the 8, but we will see improvement :)

Haha #NDT-SPP #Alliance 8)

Seeing as we aren't genuine 2014 premiership threats, we will be throwing all our support behind Sao Paulo. We have even encouraged many of our single members to involve themselves with available members from Sao Paulo. We will one day construct a super-race of members making NDT and SPP the undoubted champions of WXV for the foreseeable future.

Well that's a kick in the guts.

Dublin is currently tearing up the Destroyers Tigers alliance.  Throwing support to our toughest rival.

Its kinda like the ANZUS Alliance. NDT is Australia and we are mates with America (CF) and NZ (You) but America and NZ (CF and You) have beef ;) Simples!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on November 25, 2013, 01:47:46 AM
Quote from: elephants on November 25, 2013, 01:42:40 AM
Quote from: Holzman on November 25, 2013, 01:41:03 AM
Quote from: elephants on November 25, 2013, 12:07:50 AM
Quote from: CrowsFan on November 25, 2013, 12:03:53 AM
As one of only two teams to boast having a 2013 premiership player on their squad I can see New Delhi jumping up the ladder next year. Again they won't make the 8, but we will see improvement :)

Haha #NDT-SPP #Alliance 8)

Seeing as we aren't genuine 2014 premiership threats, we will be throwing all our support behind Sao Paulo. We have even encouraged many of our single members to involve themselves with available members from Sao Paulo. We will one day construct a super-race of members making NDT and SPP the undoubted champions of WXV for the foreseeable future.

Well that's a kick in the guts.

Dublin is currently tearing up the Destroyers Tigers alliance.  Throwing support to our toughest rival.

Its kinda like the ANZUS Alliance. NDT is Australia and we are mates with America (CF) and NZ (You) but America and NZ (CF and You) have beef ;) Simples!

Both rivals now.

I'll take you all out.

Except PNL, you guys are ok.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on November 25, 2013, 07:42:06 AM
Quote from: Hellopplz on November 25, 2013, 01:36:51 AM
Quote from: Jayman on November 24, 2013, 11:47:45 PM
Pacific and PNL will improve a fair bit
We say that about PNL every season so far, it has yet to happen :P. We can only hope 3rd time is the charm otherwise I'll stick to my word and step down :-X.

Noooooooo
#standbyHP
#inWetrust

(Lol on IPad so don't have actual links to the pics....lol  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on November 25, 2013, 07:43:20 AM
Quote from: Holzman on November 25, 2013, 01:47:46 AM
Quote from: elephants on November 25, 2013, 01:42:40 AM
Quote from: Holzman on November 25, 2013, 01:41:03 AM
Quote from: elephants on November 25, 2013, 12:07:50 AM
Quote from: CrowsFan on November 25, 2013, 12:03:53 AM
As one of only two teams to boast having a 2013 premiership player on their squad I can see New Delhi jumping up the ladder next year. Again they won't make the 8, but we will see improvement :)

Haha #NDT-SPP #Alliance 8)

Seeing as we aren't genuine 2014 premiership threats, we will be throwing all our support behind Sao Paulo. We have even encouraged many of our single members to involve themselves with available members from Sao Paulo. We will one day construct a super-race of members making NDT and SPP the undoubted champions of WXV for the foreseeable future.

Well that's a kick in the guts.

Dublin is currently tearing up the Destroyers Tigers alliance.  Throwing support to our toughest rival.

Its kinda like the ANZUS Alliance. NDT is Australia and we are mates with America (CF) and NZ (You) but America and NZ (CF and You) have beef ;) Simples!

Both rivals now.

I'll take you all out.

Except PNL, you guys are ok.
Legends over there at Dublin  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on November 25, 2013, 07:48:29 AM
The Dillos should improve and win a premiership 8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 25, 2013, 08:51:40 AM
Cairo to go one better and not miss out on the 4 by percentage.  ;)

A full season of Beams.  ;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on November 25, 2013, 09:27:33 AM
Berlin for back-to-back top 4 spots, and then go on to fluke the premiership  8)

Am also liking what Wellington has done over the trade period.

Sorry JB, but Seoul for the spoon (however your future will benefit from the young guns you got/will get)

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on November 25, 2013, 09:34:39 AM
Quote from: nrich102 on November 25, 2013, 07:48:29 AM
The Dillos should improve and win a premiership 8)
Pfft... where is the improvement coming from? Your team is so old!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on November 25, 2013, 10:47:08 AM
Bear in mind we have another trading period as well. London were quiet in the first period but dependent on drafting may be more involved in 2nd trade period.  Pretty happy with list just chasing a quality alternate Captain choice to Stanton.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on November 25, 2013, 11:10:34 AM
Can't really change much in the second period though ringo. Assuming it is the same as last year where you can make a max of 4 movements and you can only trade if there is an issue with change in positions once the new ones have been announced.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on November 25, 2013, 11:29:11 AM
Quote from: CrowsFan on November 25, 2013, 11:10:34 AM
Can't really change much in the second period though ringo. Assuming it is the same as last year where you can make a max of 4 movements and you can only trade if there is an issue with change in positions once the new ones have been announced.

Wasn't that a special 3rd trade period last year?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on November 25, 2013, 12:27:45 PM
Fairly sure we only had 2 trade periods
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on November 25, 2013, 12:51:49 PM
You probs right, my memory a little fuzzy lol
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on November 25, 2013, 12:52:08 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on November 25, 2013, 12:27:45 PM
Fairly sure we only had 2 trade periods

^ this one
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on November 25, 2013, 12:54:13 PM
Kinda would like to make another trade :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on November 25, 2013, 02:35:51 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on November 25, 2013, 07:43:20 AM
Quote from: Holzman on November 25, 2013, 01:47:46 AM
Except PNL, you guys are ok.
Legends over there at Dublin  ;)
Nobody hates PNL cause we have Reindeers and ties with Santa. Hating on PNL means you hate Santa :(.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 25, 2013, 02:39:32 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on November 25, 2013, 02:35:51 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on November 25, 2013, 07:43:20 AM
Quote from: Holzman on November 25, 2013, 01:47:46 AM
Except PNL, you guys are ok.
Legends over there at Dublin  ;)
kilbluff1985 hates PNL cause we have Reindeers and ties with Santa. Hating on PNL means you hate Santa :(.

fixed lol
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on November 25, 2013, 03:56:20 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 25, 2013, 02:39:32 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on November 25, 2013, 02:35:51 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on November 25, 2013, 07:43:20 AM
Quote from: Holzman on November 25, 2013, 01:47:46 AM
Except PNL, you guys are ok.
Legends over there at Dublin  ;)
kilbluff1985 hates PNL cause we have Reindeers and ties with Santa. Hating on PNL means you hate Santa :(.
fixed lol
Remember who gave you your start in World's ;).
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 25, 2013, 05:42:09 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on November 25, 2013, 03:56:20 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 25, 2013, 02:39:32 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on November 25, 2013, 02:35:51 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on November 25, 2013, 07:43:20 AM
Quote from: Holzman on November 25, 2013, 01:47:46 AM
Except PNL, you guys are ok.
Legends over there at Dublin  ;)
kilbluff1985 hates PNL cause we have Reindeers and ties with Santa. Hating on PNL means you hate Santa :(.
fixed lol
Remember who gave you your start in World's ;).

Santa Claus? ;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on November 25, 2013, 05:44:48 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 25, 2013, 05:42:09 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on November 25, 2013, 03:56:20 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 25, 2013, 02:39:32 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on November 25, 2013, 02:35:51 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on November 25, 2013, 07:43:20 AM
Quote from: Holzman on November 25, 2013, 01:47:46 AM
Except PNL, you guys are ok.
Legends over there at Dublin  ;)
kilbluff1985 hates PNL cause we have Reindeers and ties with Santa. Hating on PNL means you hate Santa :(.
fixed lol
Remember who gave you your start in World's ;).
Santa Claus? ;D
And now you have turned against him and Rudolph :'(.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on November 25, 2013, 05:52:52 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on November 25, 2013, 05:44:48 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 25, 2013, 05:42:09 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on November 25, 2013, 03:56:20 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 25, 2013, 02:39:32 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on November 25, 2013, 02:35:51 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on November 25, 2013, 07:43:20 AM
Quote from: Holzman on November 25, 2013, 01:47:46 AM
Except PNL, you guys are ok.
Legends over there at Dublin  ;)
kilbluff1985 hates PNL cause we have Reindeers and ties with Santa. Hating on PNL means you hate Santa :(.
fixed lol
Remember who gave you your start in World's ;).
Santa Claus? ;D
And now you have turned against him and Rudolph :'(.
How ungrateful :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 25, 2013, 06:00:51 PM
will i still get what i want for christmas?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on November 25, 2013, 06:03:26 PM
If you asked for coal, then sure :P.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 25, 2013, 06:05:00 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on November 25, 2013, 06:03:26 PM
If you asked for coal, then sure :P.

so i can burn Santas work shop to the ground for not bringing me what i wanted ;D

prob should stop now ???
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on November 25, 2013, 06:07:47 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 25, 2013, 12:07:50 AM
Quote from: CrowsFan on November 25, 2013, 12:03:53 AM
As one of only two teams to boast having a 2013 premiership player on their squad I can see New Delhi jumping up the ladder next year. Again they won't make the 8, but we will see improvement :)

Haha #NDT-SPP #Alliance 8)

Seeing as we aren't genuine 2014 premiership threats, we will be throwing all our support behind Sao Paulo. We have even encouraged many of our single members to involve themselves with available members from Sao Paulo. We will one day construct a super-race of members making NDT and SPP the undoubted champions of WXV for the foreseeable future.
If only I was the Lions instead of the Pumas. Then we could team up and be the Ligers :)
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/8b8f11a09d4d4056e9309b458109e6e8/tumblr_mjk6pjQZ8q1s8qyqpo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on November 25, 2013, 07:09:48 PM
Quote from: Holzman on November 25, 2013, 01:47:46 AM
Quote from: elephants on November 25, 2013, 01:42:40 AM
Quote from: Holzman on November 25, 2013, 01:41:03 AM
Quote from: elephants on November 25, 2013, 12:07:50 AM
Quote from: CrowsFan on November 25, 2013, 12:03:53 AM
As one of only two teams to boast having a 2013 premiership player on their squad I can see New Delhi jumping up the ladder next year. Again they won't make the 8, but we will see improvement :)

Haha #NDT-SPP #Alliance 8)

Seeing as we aren't genuine 2014 premiership threats, we will be throwing all our support behind Sao Paulo. We have even encouraged many of our single members to involve themselves with available members from Sao Paulo. We will one day construct a super-race of members making NDT and SPP the undoubted champions of WXV for the foreseeable future.

Well that's a kick in the guts.

Dublin is currently tearing up the Destroyers Tigers alliance.  Throwing support to our toughest rival.

Its kinda like the ANZUS Alliance. NDT is Australia and we are mates with America (CF) and NZ (You) but America and NZ (CF and You) have beef ;) Simples!

Both rivals now.

I'll take you all out.

Except PNL, you guys are ok.

lol, DUDlin. You ain't taking out anybody 8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on November 26, 2013, 04:00:04 PM
Was probably said somewhere, but are we waiting until the final list lodgements on Monday before we start drafting? Or after the drafts tomorrow?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on November 26, 2013, 05:14:05 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 26, 2013, 04:00:04 PM
Was probably said somewhere, but are we waiting until the final list lodgements on Monday before we start drafting? Or after the drafts tomorrow?

Monday reckon guys....
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on November 26, 2013, 05:15:08 PM
So we have to finalise our delistings by Sunday night then?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on November 27, 2013, 09:48:16 PM
Before i post my delistings just wanna clear something up

To get a pick in the preseason draft do i need to pass one of my International draft picks or do i get a pick if i have a space clear for it?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on November 27, 2013, 09:57:47 PM
You would have to pass one of your picks, because you will be given as many international picks as it takes to get your list up to 41
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on December 06, 2013, 10:05:16 AM
Liam Sumner a forward next season. Hooray! :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on December 06, 2013, 02:45:37 PM
Toby Greene and Zac Williams remain mids only.

NDT are screwed :( haha
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on December 06, 2013, 02:48:49 PM
Buggy stays a back :D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on December 06, 2013, 03:46:55 PM
Where are you guys finding this stuff out?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on December 06, 2013, 03:49:56 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on December 06, 2013, 03:46:55 PM
Where are you guys finding this stuff out?
If you pre register for dream team each day they are releasing the prices and positions of a club. Starting with GWS and going up the ladder. So Melbourne tomorrow...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on December 06, 2013, 03:50:11 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on December 06, 2013, 03:46:55 PM
Where are you guys finding this stuff out?

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,87993.0.html
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on December 06, 2013, 03:59:17 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on December 06, 2013, 03:49:56 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on December 06, 2013, 03:46:55 PM
Where are you guys finding this stuff out?
If you pre register for dream team each day they are releasing the prices and positions of a club. Starting with GWS and going up the ladder. So Melbourne tomorrow...
Cheers! Thought I did pre-register but guess not ::).

Thanks KB, going to bookmark the link within that thread.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on December 06, 2013, 04:00:54 PM
You can still pre register now. I only did it this morning. But probably doesn't really matter when others just post a link to it anyway ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on December 06, 2013, 04:01:58 PM
CF keeps beating me to the post lol  :'(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on December 06, 2013, 07:23:09 PM
So what is everyone thinking will occur with the positional changes?

So far I've had Sumner swap from pure mid to pure forward (was expecting fwd/mid) so pleased with that. Then the other changes I'm expecting are...

Andrew Walker from fwd/mid to def (possibly with mid or fwd, not sure)
Jarryd Roughead to be pure forward rather than fwd/ruck
Majak Daw to be ruck/fwd rather than pure ruck
Hamish Hartlett to lose defense status and be pure mid
Kyle Martin to gain DPP mid/fwd - reason for this is he scored 35 goals and 10 behinds in 13 VFL games and played forward mostly in his games for Collingwood. Probably won't happen, but will be very happy if it does :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on December 06, 2013, 07:25:04 PM
Pacific seem to have gained DPP from Howlett and Titchell. Very happy to hear this :D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on December 06, 2013, 07:39:18 PM
Where have you heard that jay?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on December 06, 2013, 07:42:01 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on December 06, 2013, 07:39:18 PM
Where have you heard that jay?
http://tooserious.net/Blog/tabid/90/EntryId/1954/Full-list-of-2014-DT-prices-and-positions.aspx
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on December 06, 2013, 07:42:37 PM
Its BS, don't believe anything until its official.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on December 06, 2013, 07:43:33 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on December 06, 2013, 07:39:18 PM
Where have you heard that jay?
TooSerious leaked the full list of players and their positions.

The page is going down every so often though, presumably because of all the hits it must be getting.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on December 06, 2013, 07:49:19 PM
Ah right. Stupid link won't load for me though :(

Edit: So since I can't load the page, who wants to tell me how close I was with my predictions?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on December 06, 2013, 07:53:19 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on December 06, 2013, 07:23:09 PM
So what is everyone thinking will occur with the positional changes?

So far I've had Sumner swap from pure mid to pure forward (was expecting fwd/mid) so pleased with that. Then the other changes I'm expecting are...

Andrew Walker from fwd/mid to def (possibly with mid or fwd, not sure) Correct. Walker DEF only.
Jarryd Roughead to be pure forward rather than fwd/ruck Correct. Roughy FWD only
Majak Daw to be ruck/fwd rather than pure ruck Correct. F/R now.
Hamish Hartlett to lose defense status and be pure mid Correct. MID only.
Kyle Martin to gain DPP mid/fwd - reason for this is he scored 35 goals and 10 behinds in 13 VFL games and played forward mostly in his games for Collingwood. Probably won't happen, but will be very happy if it does :) Wrong. MID only still.

The above in red are from memory.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on December 06, 2013, 07:54:40 PM
Boo to the last one. How can you average 3.5 scoring shots at goal a game and not get forward status?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 06, 2013, 08:31:52 PM
Dixon f/r that could have been season over if Goldy ever got injured.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on December 06, 2013, 08:56:52 PM
So a couple for my team I didn't pick. Ben Jacobs moved from pure def to pure mid (thought he would at least be DPP with def). Whitecross from fwd/mid to pure def. Did not see that one coming at all! Strengthens my defense (when he gets back on the park), but hurts my forwards :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on December 06, 2013, 08:59:19 PM
WINGARD Fwd/Mid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


;D ;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on December 06, 2013, 09:13:19 PM
Just went through my whole team and notice I've only got 3 players who are DPP! Matty Wright and Devon Smith are fwd/mid and Majak Daw is fwd/ruck, but apart from that everyone is single position players.

On my senior list I have got 12 defenders, 14 midfielders, 4 rucks (inc. Daw), 11 forwards.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on December 06, 2013, 09:24:29 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on December 06, 2013, 09:13:19 PM
Just went through my whole team and notice I've only got 3 players who are DPP! Matty Wright and Devon Smith are fwd/mid and Majak Daw is fwd/ruck, but apart from that everyone is single position players.

On my senior list I have got 12 defenders, 14 midfielders, 4 rucks (inc. Daw), 11 forwards.

In BXVs, I now have 17 mids and I only 9 defenders. :o

Gonna sort out my WXVs one now...  :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on December 07, 2013, 03:58:30 PM

So just noting that in the records that London Royal Harry O'Brien is now Heritier Lumumba....

And that the O'Brien medal played for between Sao Paulo and Buenos Aires players will be known as the Lumumba medal.

Also like to flag the sadness over former Buenos Aires player Michael Mascoulis death recently...




Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on December 07, 2013, 04:00:51 PM
The Lumumba Medal sounds much better than the O'Brien :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on December 07, 2013, 04:01:09 PM
I'd like to raise the dog act of former Tiger and Sands player Nick Duigan.  >:(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on December 07, 2013, 04:06:35 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on December 07, 2013, 04:01:09 PM
I'd like to raise the dog act of former Tiger and Sands player Nick Duigan.  >:(

you don't even know the circumstances behind that
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on December 07, 2013, 04:30:42 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on December 07, 2013, 04:06:35 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on December 07, 2013, 04:01:09 PM
I'd like to raise the dog act of former Tiger and Sands player Nick Duigan.  >:(

you don't even know the circumstances behind that
I know, it was more a joke. I'm sad about it. I like the guy and he's been given F/D DPP is he plays on.  :o
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on December 08, 2013, 01:27:07 PM
Oh thank god, Jack Grimes is a Def/Mid! Was so worried he'd be Mid only.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on December 08, 2013, 03:11:14 PM
The only thing I wanted was Grimes' Def status, so the rest of these are just bonuses:

Zorko M/F (expected and would have gladly settled for pure F)
Lewis Jetta M/F (expected pure F)
Mitch Honeychurch M/F (expected pure M)
Fitzpatrick R/F (went to plan)


Lost these MPPs
Aylett D/M -----> D
Clay Cameron D/F -----> D
Rory Atkins M/F -----> M
Josh Saunders D/M -----> M

None of those guys played senior matches (if any at all), so these positional changes are a total win. Nothing went wrong.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on December 08, 2013, 03:18:55 PM
Atkins and Saunders both becoming mids (Atkin didn't even play a game ::)) hurts in BXVs.  :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on December 08, 2013, 03:38:03 PM

So, each team now has a completed Senior list of 41 players, well done everybody!


The second trade period will begin after the rookie draft is completed... (I think positions have all been announced??)

Similar rules to last year:

Trades must be 1 for 1, 2 for 2, 3 for 3, or 4 for 4.

No more than 4 player movements per team.

Can't go over 31,500 or below 24,000

A trade can only be allowed if at least one of the players involved had a position change, or there was a reasonable expectation they were going to have a position change, but didn't.

Any questions?




Also thinking of allowing the teams with a cap under 24,000 (Beijing, New Delhi, Seoul) to be able to trade International Draft picks for 2014 (plus a player) for Players to help them out. What are people's thoughts on this?

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on December 08, 2013, 03:50:17 PM
can Tokyo get an allowance to go a little bit below our cap? since our cap is only so low due to injuries and suspension it's very annoying  :'(

worth a try
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on December 08, 2013, 04:09:25 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on December 08, 2013, 03:38:03 PM

Also thinking of allowing the teams with a cap under 24,000 (Beijing, New Delhi, Seoul) to be able to trade International Draft picks for 2014 (plus a player) for Players to help them out. What are people's thoughts on this?

Would get messy quick... neither supporting or opposing anything of the like.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on December 08, 2013, 04:10:17 PM
Every team had injuries.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on December 08, 2013, 04:29:45 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on December 08, 2013, 03:50:17 PM
can Tokyo get an allowance to go a little bit below our cap? since our cap is only so low due to injuries and suspension it's very annoying  :'(

worth a try
Your cap is low because you are crap :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on December 08, 2013, 04:32:03 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on December 08, 2013, 04:29:45 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on December 08, 2013, 03:50:17 PM
can Tokyo get an allowance to go a little bit below our cap? since our cap is only so low due to injuries and suspension it's very annoying  :'(

worth a try
Your cap is low because you are crap :P

bite me :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on December 08, 2013, 05:36:55 PM


Wonder over to this thread for some discussion...


http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,88023.0.html
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on December 08, 2013, 05:39:15 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on December 07, 2013, 03:58:30 PM

So just noting that in the records that London Royal Harry O'Brien is now Heritier Lumumba....

And that the O'Brien medal played for between Sao Paulo and Buenos Aires players will be known as the Lumumba medal.


The dressing room will be using Ritchie Valens - La Bamba  to fire up Heritier before each game. Goes with his newly acquired D/M DPP. Fire up mate.

Listen here if you do not know the song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp6j5HJ-Cok
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on December 08, 2013, 08:50:03 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on December 08, 2013, 03:38:03 PM

Also thinking of allowing the teams with a cap under 24,000 (Beijing, New Delhi, Seoul) to be able to trade International Draft picks for 2014 (plus a player) for Players to help them out. What are people's thoughts on this?

Would this be like a mini-draft type scenario? :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on December 16, 2013, 04:48:04 PM
Posting in this thread, because it'll get lost in the other :P

Pacific are in need of mids! Whether they're a gun or just depth, we've got a deal for you ;)

Have guys like Tom Bugg, Phil Davis, Rhys Stanley, Joel Tippett as backs up for trade. And as for fwds, might be able to give guys up such as Lindsay Thomas, Jarryd Blair, Matt de Boer, Jamie Elliot, Michael Hurley... Chuck me a PM if you're interested
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on January 11, 2014, 10:54:09 AM
So when does this trade period end ossie?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on January 11, 2014, 11:13:37 AM
Quote from: Honey Badger on January 11, 2014, 10:54:09 AM
So when does this trade period end ossie?
There's been a trade period? :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on January 11, 2014, 12:15:27 PM
Quote from: Jayman on January 11, 2014, 11:13:37 AM
Quote from: Honey Badger on January 11, 2014, 10:54:09 AM
So when does this trade period end ossie?
There's been a trade period? :P

Haha +1 :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on January 11, 2014, 02:27:32 PM
Quote from: Honey Badger on January 11, 2014, 10:54:09 AM
So when does this trade period end ossie?

Not sure :) will warn people well in advance before it closes.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on January 11, 2014, 02:30:58 PM
just make it Feb 10th a couple days before Nab Challenge
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on January 16, 2014, 03:49:36 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on January 11, 2014, 02:30:58 PM
just make it Feb 10th a couple days before Nab Challenge

As said in other thread now up to the end of the month.

VERY quiet (just like last year was).

Btw all, I've contacted Maca via PM. If he doesn't respond by the end of the month, I'll start the process of finding a new coach. If anyone has other ways of contacting him, now would be the time to do it.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on January 23, 2014, 01:00:59 PM

Still no word on Maca....
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on January 23, 2014, 04:23:41 PM
Hope he's alright though as he has dropped off the face off FF :-\.

Guessing if worst comes to worst, applications will be taken in?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on January 23, 2014, 04:26:05 PM
Probably still sulking he lost the grand final haha
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on January 23, 2014, 05:17:48 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on January 23, 2014, 04:23:41 PM
Hope he's alright though as he has dropped off the face off FF :-\.

Guessing if worst comes to worst, applications will be taken in?

Yup :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on January 25, 2014, 09:10:04 PM
Quote from: Honey Badger on January 23, 2014, 04:26:05 PM
Probably still sulking he lost the grand final haha
There goes the CF (Oops, HoneyBadger  :P)-Maca Rivalry.  :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on January 27, 2014, 12:30:43 AM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on January 25, 2014, 09:10:04 PM
Quote from: Honey Badger on January 23, 2014, 04:26:05 PM
Probably still sulking he lost the grand final haha
There goes the CF (Oops, HoneyBadger  :P)-Maca Rivalry.  :(
Technically, Honey Badger doesn't have a rivalry with Maca or anybody in World's as he hasn't been around long enough for one ;).
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on January 27, 2014, 05:03:01 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on January 27, 2014, 12:30:43 AM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on January 25, 2014, 09:10:04 PM
Quote from: Honey Badger on January 23, 2014, 04:26:05 PM
Probably still sulking he lost the grand final haha
There goes the CF-Maca Rivalry.  :(
Technically, Honey Badger doesn't have a rivalry with Maca or anybody in World's as he hasn't been around long enough for one ;).

I know.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on January 27, 2014, 06:38:18 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on January 27, 2014, 12:30:43 AM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on January 25, 2014, 09:10:04 PM
Quote from: Honey Badger on January 23, 2014, 04:26:05 PM
Probably still sulking he lost the grand final haha
There goes the CF (Oops, HoneyBadger  :P)-Maca Rivalry.  :(
Technically, Honey Badger doesn't have a rivalry with Maca or anybody in World's as he hasn't been around long enough for one ;).
We've already been through this though. It's the same guy, just going with the customary Brazilian traditions of changing his name ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on January 28, 2014, 12:29:03 PM

Maca still has time, but....


http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,88882.0.html
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on January 28, 2014, 12:40:50 PM
It's a good team, I'm sure somebody will be interested.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on January 28, 2014, 12:54:21 PM
Get around JROO! He's stepped up admirably.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on January 28, 2014, 02:08:15 PM
Hey I was wondering what happened to half of the post for this thread? Haha
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on January 28, 2014, 02:11:28 PM
Quote from: whatlez on January 28, 2014, 02:08:15 PM
Hey I was wondering what happened to half of the post for this thread? Haha

Yep, I was sick of looking at my un-hyperlinked name as the topic creator, so I split it :/
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on January 28, 2014, 04:18:01 PM
Quote from: elephants on January 28, 2014, 12:54:21 PM
Get around JROO! He's stepped up admirably.
If he's able to handle it, I support him. Always think assistants should get first crack at the team if they are able to commit!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on January 28, 2014, 04:19:21 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on January 28, 2014, 04:18:01 PM
Quote from: elephants on January 28, 2014, 12:54:21 PM
Get around JROO! He's stepped up admirably.
If he's able to handle it, I support him. Always think assistants should get first crack at the team if they are able to commit!
Cheers guys, I appreciate it  :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on January 28, 2014, 04:31:47 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on January 28, 2014, 04:18:01 PM
Quote from: elephants on January 28, 2014, 12:54:21 PM
Get around JROO! He's stepped up admirably.
If he's able to handle it, I support him. Always think assistants should get first crack at the team if they are able to commit!
Nobody said that when c4 stepped down  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on January 28, 2014, 05:37:30 PM
Quote from: Master Q on January 28, 2014, 04:31:47 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on January 28, 2014, 04:18:01 PM
Quote from: elephants on January 28, 2014, 12:54:21 PM
Get around JROO! He's stepped up admirably.
If he's able to handle it, I support him. Always think assistants should get first crack at the team if they are able to commit!
Nobody said that when c4 stepped down  :P

Did you apply? :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on February 01, 2014, 01:04:17 PM
Is the trade period over? Was intending on making 1 more trade but forgot.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on February 01, 2014, 01:07:22 PM
Quote from: Nails on February 01, 2014, 01:04:17 PM
Is the trade period over? Was intending on making 1 more trade but forgot.
Yep it's all over. Teams a locked in for the new season :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on February 01, 2014, 01:10:13 PM
flower! That snuck up on me.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on February 01, 2014, 01:24:15 PM
I'll give the new coach of mexico city a couple of days to trade
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on February 01, 2014, 06:54:34 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on February 01, 2014, 01:24:15 PM
I'll give the new coach of mexico city a couple of days to trade
That's fair. Out of interest will they only be positional trades or a free for all?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on February 01, 2014, 07:02:36 PM
Quote from: Honey Badger on February 01, 2014, 06:54:34 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on February 01, 2014, 01:24:15 PM
I'll give the new coach of mexico city a couple of days to trade
That's fair. Out of interest will they only be positional trades or a free for all?
Good question. Was wondering the same.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on February 01, 2014, 08:28:06 PM
Quote from: Honey Badger on February 01, 2014, 06:54:34 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on February 01, 2014, 01:24:15 PM
I'll give the new coach of mexico city a couple of days to trade
That's fair. Out of interest will they only be positional trades or a free for all?

Positional
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on February 04, 2014, 09:57:04 AM

So....

Trying to think how best to organise the preseason cup competition this year! The 18 matches over 18 days makes things difficult... And only 3 matches overall...

So, how about a simple method?

Over the '18 in 18' the score of your entire squad counts (using DT/AF scores).

Over the final round of practice matches, the 2 highest scoring teams play-off in the final with standard XV rules? (DT or SC... depending on the availability of SC)

More than happy for other suggestions.... My other thoughts turned out to be very complicated and probably not very fair.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on February 04, 2014, 10:07:44 AM
The format this year does make it tougher.

But I like the idea you've proposed.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on February 04, 2014, 10:35:10 AM
You just like it nigey since last year your team had the most depth so more players playing to score :P

Although I can't think of any other way to run it, so sounds fine.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on February 04, 2014, 10:42:37 AM
Actually just came up with another way...

The '18 in 18' gets split in to two rounds of 9 matches. For the first round teams are randomly allocated to one of four groups (2 with 4 teams, 2 with 5). The winner of the group is the team that scores the most using their entire squad as you suggested ossie. The second round then consists of just 4 teams with the winner of group 1 vs winner of group 3, and winner of group 2 vs winner of group 4. Again the winner of these matches is determined by score of entire squad. The two winners then play under normal rules (if teams are announced before hand) during the last round of practice matches to determine the winner.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on February 04, 2014, 10:44:42 AM
Quote from: Honey Badger on February 04, 2014, 10:42:37 AM
Actually just came up with another way...

The '18 in 18' gets split in to two rounds of 9 matches. For the first round teams are randomly allocated to one of four groups (2 with 4 teams, 2 with 5). The winner of the group is the team that scores the most using their entire squad as you suggested ossie. The second round then consists of just 4 teams with the winner of group 1 vs winner of group 3, and winner of group 2 vs winner of group 4. Again the winner of these matches is determined by score of entire squad. The two winners then play under normal rules (if teams are announced before hand) during the last round of practice matches to determine the winner.

Thoughts?

I like it! With a slight modification...

How about 3 groups of 6, with the winner of group going through + a lucky loser (highest scoring team that didn't qualify).

Than it is highest scoring team v 4th highest, 2nd v 3rd?

Fairly similar to last year I suppose that way....




Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on February 04, 2014, 10:47:26 AM
Yeah that also works :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on February 04, 2014, 11:58:13 AM
Quote from: Honey Badger on February 04, 2014, 10:35:10 AM
You just like it nigey since last year your team had the most depth so more players playing to score :P

Although I can't think of any other way to run it, so sounds fine.
We don't have that depth anymore though.  :o

I mean, we have the depth, just not like it was... and even then, Alexandria's end to the season wasn't much to write home about.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on February 04, 2014, 12:17:53 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on February 04, 2014, 11:58:13 AM
Quote from: Honey Badger on February 04, 2014, 10:35:10 AM
You just like it nigey since last year your team had the most depth so more players playing to score :P

Although I can't think of any other way to run it, so sounds fine.
We don't have that depth anymore though.  :o

I mean, we have the depth, just not like it was... and even then, Alexandria's end to the season wasn't much to write home about.

You are Rhineland both  :-\
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on February 04, 2014, 12:23:21 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 04, 2014, 12:17:53 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on February 04, 2014, 11:58:13 AM
Quote from: Honey Badger on February 04, 2014, 10:35:10 AM
You just like it nigey since last year your team had the most depth so more players playing to score :P

Although I can't think of any other way to run it, so sounds fine.
We don't have that depth anymore though.  :o

I mean, we have the depth, just not like it was... and even then, Alexandria's end to the season wasn't much to write home about.

You are Rhineland both  :-\
It was good while it lasted.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on February 04, 2014, 02:48:07 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on February 04, 2014, 12:23:21 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 04, 2014, 12:17:53 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on February 04, 2014, 11:58:13 AM
Quote from: Honey Badger on February 04, 2014, 10:35:10 AM
You just like it nigey since last year your team had the most depth so more players playing to score :P

Although I can't think of any other way to run it, so sounds fine.
We don't have that depth anymore though.  :o

I mean, we have the depth, just not like it was... and even then, Alexandria's end to the season wasn't much to write home about.

You are Rhineland both  :-\
It was good while it lasted.  :P
Bow down to the almighty Cape Town Cobras reserves premiers of 2013!  ;D

Also I like the idea's guys. Sounds like fun!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on February 04, 2014, 03:54:27 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on February 04, 2014, 02:48:07 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on February 04, 2014, 12:23:21 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 04, 2014, 12:17:53 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on February 04, 2014, 11:58:13 AM
Quote from: Honey Badger on February 04, 2014, 10:35:10 AM
You just like it nigey since last year your team had the most depth so more players playing to score :P

Although I can't think of any other way to run it, so sounds fine.
We don't have that depth anymore though.  :o

I mean, we have the depth, just not like it was... and even then, Alexandria's end to the season wasn't much to write home about.

You are Rhineland both  :-\
It was good while it lasted.  :P
Bow down to the almighty Cape Town Cobras reserves premiers of 2013!  ;D

Also I like the idea's guys. Sounds like fun!
I think you need to come up with a name for your reserves team.  :P

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on February 04, 2014, 07:52:17 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on February 04, 2014, 03:54:27 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on February 04, 2014, 02:48:07 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on February 04, 2014, 12:23:21 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 04, 2014, 12:17:53 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on February 04, 2014, 11:58:13 AM
Quote from: Honey Badger on February 04, 2014, 10:35:10 AM
You just like it nigey since last year your team had the most depth so more players playing to score :P

Although I can't think of any other way to run it, so sounds fine.
We don't have that depth anymore though.  :o

I mean, we have the depth, just not like it was... and even then, Alexandria's end to the season wasn't much to write home about.

You are Rhineland both  :-\
It was good while it lasted.  :P
Bow down to the almighty Cape Town Cobras reserves premiers of 2013!  ;D

Also I like the idea's guys. Sounds like fun!
I think you need to come up with a name for your reserves team.  :P
Yeah probably. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on February 04, 2014, 08:15:34 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on February 04, 2014, 07:52:17 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on February 04, 2014, 03:54:27 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on February 04, 2014, 02:48:07 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on February 04, 2014, 12:23:21 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 04, 2014, 12:17:53 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on February 04, 2014, 11:58:13 AM
Quote from: Honey Badger on February 04, 2014, 10:35:10 AM
You just like it nigey since last year your team had the most depth so more players playing to score :P

Although I can't think of any other way to run it, so sounds fine.
We don't have that depth anymore though.  :o

I mean, we have the depth, just not like it was... and even then, Alexandria's end to the season wasn't much to write home about.

You are Rhineland both  :-\
It was good while it lasted.  :P
Bow down to the almighty Cape Town Cobras reserves premiers of 2013!  ;D

Also I like the idea's guys. Sounds like fun!
I think you need to come up with a name for your reserves team.  :P
Yeah probably. Any suggestions?
Pretoria Gemsbok?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on February 04, 2014, 08:34:01 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on February 04, 2014, 07:52:17 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on February 04, 2014, 03:54:27 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on February 04, 2014, 02:48:07 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on February 04, 2014, 12:23:21 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 04, 2014, 12:17:53 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on February 04, 2014, 11:58:13 AM
Quote from: Honey Badger on February 04, 2014, 10:35:10 AM
You just like it nigey since last year your team had the most depth so more players playing to score :P

Although I can't think of any other way to run it, so sounds fine.
We don't have that depth anymore though.  :o

I mean, we have the depth, just not like it was... and even then, Alexandria's end to the season wasn't much to write home about.

You are Rhineland both  :-\
It was good while it lasted.  :P
Bow down to the almighty Cape Town Cobras reserves premiers of 2013!  ;D

Also I like the idea's guys. Sounds like fun!
I think you need to come up with a name for your reserves team.  :P
Yeah probably. Any suggestions?
Highveld Zebras?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on February 04, 2014, 08:49:00 PM
Adelaide CrowsFan

;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on February 04, 2014, 09:29:54 PM
Johannesburg Giants?

If you wanted to keep it to South Africa that is
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on February 04, 2014, 09:31:01 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 04, 2014, 09:29:54 PM
Johannesburg Giants?

If you wanted to keep it to South Africa that is
Or expand into Swaziland and go for the Swaziland Rhinos.  :o
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on February 04, 2014, 09:38:10 PM
Or you can stick with the snake them and call yourself the Mambas?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on February 04, 2014, 09:43:45 PM
Johannesburg Machetes
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on February 04, 2014, 10:23:32 PM
Hmm interesting ideas. Thanks for the help lads!
Quote from: Honey Badger on February 04, 2014, 09:38:10 PM
Or you can stick with the snake them and call yourself the Mambas?
I think I like this one. Except I'd like the reserves to be a slightly less feared snake than a Cobra, because they are the reserves ;)

Although it should also be indigenous to Africa... hmmmm.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on February 04, 2014, 10:24:34 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on February 04, 2014, 10:23:32 PM
Hmm interesting ideas. Thanks for the help lads!
Quote from: Honey Badger on February 04, 2014, 09:38:10 PM
Or you can stick with the snake them and call yourself the Mambas?
I think I like this one. Except I'd like the reserves to be a slightly less feared snake than a Cobra, because they are the reserves ;)

Although it should also be indigenous to Africa... hmmmm.
Protetia Pythons?  ???
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on February 04, 2014, 10:32:28 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on February 04, 2014, 10:24:34 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on February 04, 2014, 10:23:32 PM
Hmm interesting ideas. Thanks for the help lads!
Quote from: Honey Badger on February 04, 2014, 09:38:10 PM
Or you can stick with the snake them and call yourself the Mambas?
I think I like this one. Except I'd like the reserves to be a slightly less feared snake than a Cobra, because they are the reserves ;)

Although it should also be indigenous to Africa... hmmmm.
Protetia Pythons?  ???
I thought they were more South American?  ???
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on February 04, 2014, 10:35:56 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on February 04, 2014, 10:32:28 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on February 04, 2014, 10:24:34 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on February 04, 2014, 10:23:32 PM
Hmm interesting ideas. Thanks for the help lads!
Quote from: Honey Badger on February 04, 2014, 09:38:10 PM
Or you can stick with the snake them and call yourself the Mambas?
I think I like this one. Except I'd like the reserves to be a slightly less feared snake than a Cobra, because they are the reserves ;)

Although it should also be indigenous to Africa... hmmmm.
Protetia Pythons?  ???
I thought they were more South American?  ???
I really only read the snake part.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on February 04, 2014, 10:39:56 PM
Protetia Pirates
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on February 04, 2014, 10:51:34 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on February 04, 2014, 10:35:56 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on February 04, 2014, 10:32:28 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on February 04, 2014, 10:24:34 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on February 04, 2014, 10:23:32 PM
Hmm interesting ideas. Thanks for the help lads!
Quote from: Honey Badger on February 04, 2014, 09:38:10 PM
Or you can stick with the snake them and call yourself the Mambas?
I think I like this one. Except I'd like the reserves to be a slightly less feared snake than a Cobra, because they are the reserves ;)

Although it should also be indigenous to Africa... hmmmm.
Protetia Pythons?  ???
I thought they were more South American?  ???
I really only read the snake part.  :P
Haha, points for trying!  ;)

Screw it I'll just go with the Black Mumba due to it's pop culture references as Kobe Bryant and killing a guy in Kill Bill :P

Introducing the new reserves (pending an Ossie confirmation), the Cape Town Mumbas! It even sort of rhymes with Cobras... sort of.

Quote from: kilbluff1985 on February 04, 2014, 10:39:56 PM
Protetia Pirates
Haha saw this a bit late. It's not bad though!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on February 04, 2014, 10:55:41 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on February 04, 2014, 10:51:34 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on February 04, 2014, 10:35:56 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on February 04, 2014, 10:32:28 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on February 04, 2014, 10:24:34 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on February 04, 2014, 10:23:32 PM
Hmm interesting ideas. Thanks for the help lads!
Quote from: Honey Badger on February 04, 2014, 09:38:10 PM
Or you can stick with the snake them and call yourself the Mambas?
I think I like this one. Except I'd like the reserves to be a slightly less feared snake than a Cobra, because they are the reserves ;)

Although it should also be indigenous to Africa... hmmmm.
Protetia Pythons?  ???
I thought they were more South American?  ???
I really only read the snake part.  :P
Haha, points for trying!  ;)

Screw it I'll just go with the Black Mumba due to it's pop culture references as Kobe Bryant and killing a guy in Kill Bill :P

Introducing the new reserves (pending an Ossie confirmation), the Cape Town Mumbas! It even sort of rhymes with Cobras... sort of.

Quote from: kilbluff1985 on February 04, 2014, 10:39:56 PM
Protetia Pirates
Haha saw this a bit late. It's not bad though!
Mambas, with an a.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on February 04, 2014, 11:07:11 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on February 04, 2014, 10:55:41 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on February 04, 2014, 10:51:34 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on February 04, 2014, 10:35:56 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on February 04, 2014, 10:32:28 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on February 04, 2014, 10:24:34 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on February 04, 2014, 10:23:32 PM
Hmm interesting ideas. Thanks for the help lads!
Quote from: Honey Badger on February 04, 2014, 09:38:10 PM
Or you can stick with the snake them and call yourself the Mambas?
I think I like this one. Except I'd like the reserves to be a slightly less feared snake than a Cobra, because they are the reserves ;)

Although it should also be indigenous to Africa... hmmmm.
Protetia Pythons?  ???
I thought they were more South American?  ???
I really only read the snake part.  :P
Haha, points for trying!  ;)

Screw it I'll just go with the Black Mumba due to it's pop culture references as Kobe Bryant and killing a guy in Kill Bill :P

Introducing the new reserves (pending an Ossie confirmation), the Cape Town Mumbas! It even sort of rhymes with Cobras... sort of.

Quote from: kilbluff1985 on February 04, 2014, 10:39:56 PM
Protetia Pirates
Haha saw this a bit late. It's not bad though!
Mambas, with an a.  :P
Well this is embarrassing.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on February 06, 2014, 08:27:06 AM

Random.....

The Race for 50!

Mexico City Premiership Player Brad Ebert is the front-runner to be the first ever player to play 50 WXV matches! Having played in 41 of a possible 41 matches! (34 home & away, 7 finals). Can anyone catch him? These are the players not too far behind...

39: Brendon Goddard (Mexico City), Jordan Lewis (Mexico City), Will Minson (Sao Paulo)

Goddard and Lewis are Ebert's premiership team-mates, while Honey Badger may regret dropping Premiership star Will Minson that one time to the reserves (where he scored 117!).

38: Kane Cornes (Buenos Aires), Josh P Kennedy (Cape Town), Scott Thompson (Wellington/Mexico City), Rory Sloane (Sao Paulo)

Kane Cornes is a bit of a surprise! While JPK was hurt by Cape Town's early finals exit. Thompson missed out on a premiership as he was playing for Wellington in 2012, but then again missed out on a spoon as he was playing for Mexico City in 2013! While Rory Sloane, being one of the youngest and in a strong team, can look forward to leading the charge towards 100.

37: Daniel Wells (Berlin), Shaun Burgoyne (Mexico City/Buenos Aires), Trent Cotchin (Cape Town), Steele Sidebottom (Beijing/Mexico City), Jimmy Bartel (Mexico City), Nick Riewoldt (Mexico City), Jed Adcock (Wellington/Mexico City), Gary Ablett jnr (Sao Paulo), Jarryd Roughead (Sao Paulo), Bachar Houli (Sao Paulo), Jack Riewoldt (Toronto), Michael Johnson (Toronto)

And these would all be classified as unlikely. Though special props given to Daniel Wells (37 from 37 possible, 34 home & away, 3 finals) considering at the start of the 2012 season he was meant to have health issues.

Basically, Ebert needs a suspension/injury/serious drop in form to miss out. Round 9 shapes as game 50.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on February 06, 2014, 09:19:49 AM
Interesting stats! You would think Ebert would get it, or at least get it at the same time as someone else. Well done to my man Daniel Wells  :D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on February 06, 2014, 11:59:23 AM
No mention of anyone from New Delhi :( :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on February 06, 2014, 12:54:44 PM
Quote from: elephants on February 06, 2014, 11:59:23 AM
No mention of anyone from New Delhi :( :P
or London  ??? ???
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on February 06, 2014, 12:55:57 PM
Quote from: Ringo on February 06, 2014, 12:54:44 PM
Quote from: elephants on February 06, 2014, 11:59:23 AM
No mention of anyone from New Delhi :( :P
or London  ??? ???

Well, 17 rounds a year = 34 matches without finals....
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on February 06, 2014, 01:01:36 PM
Who's leading the way for Cairo, Oss?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on February 06, 2014, 01:13:53 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on February 06, 2014, 12:55:57 PM
Quote from: Ringo on February 06, 2014, 12:54:44 PM
Quote from: elephants on February 06, 2014, 11:59:23 AM
No mention of anyone from New Delhi :( :P
or London  ??? ???

Well, 17 rounds a year = 34 matches without finals....
Fair point Oss so if we did not make finals at all only 34 available.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on February 06, 2014, 01:18:03 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on February 06, 2014, 01:01:36 PM
Who's leading the way for Cairo, Oss?

By club, counting only games for your club:

Beijing: Harry Taylor (33)
Berlin: Daniel Wells (37)
Buenos Aires: Kane Cornes (38)
Cairo: Pearce Hanley (34)
Cape Town: Josh P Kennedy (38)
Dublin: Shaun Atley (33) * will play for New York next year
London: Jarrad McVeigh/Andrew Mackie (34)
Mexico City: Brad Ebert (41)
Moscow: Dustin Martin (36)
New Delhi: James Podsiadly (27)
New York: Andrew Gaff (33) * will play for New Delhi next year
Pacific: Tim Mohr (25)
PNL: Nathan Jones (33)
Sao Paulo: Will Minson (39)
Seoul: Brett Deledio (34)
Tokyo: Kieran Jack (34)
Toronto: Jack Riewoldt/Michael Johnson (37)
Wellington: Lenny Hayes/Marc Murphy (29)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on February 06, 2014, 01:20:50 PM
Tim Mohr with 25 for Pacific is certainly interesting.  :o
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on February 06, 2014, 01:25:23 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on February 06, 2014, 01:20:50 PM
Tim Mohr with 25 for Pacific is certainly interesting.  :o

Indeed, kinda says a lot!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on February 06, 2014, 01:44:55 PM

Positional Changes

Right, I've more than likely made mistakes... so please run your eyes over these changes and tell me if I've made a mistake...


Name, Club, New Position, Old Position

Caddy   Josh   Beijing Thunder   MF   M
Stanley   Danny   Beijing Thunder   M   D
Kennedy   Ben   Beijing Thunder   F   MF
Broomhead   Timothy   Beijing Thunder   F   M

Grimes   Jack   Berlin Brewers   DM   D
Petterd   Ricky   Berlin Brewers   D   F
Fitzpatrick   Jack   Berlin Brewers   RF   R
Saunders   Josh   Berlin Brewers   M   DM
Aylett   Kurt   Berlin Brewers   D   DM
Atkins   Rory   Berlin Brewers   M   MF
Cameron   Clay   Berlin Brewers   D   DF
Tutt   Jason   Berlin Brewers   F   M
Hunter   Lachie   Berlin Brewers   MF   M


Cox   Dean   Buenos Aires Armadillos   R   RF
Johnson   Steve   Buenos Aires Armadillos   M   MF
Scotland   Heath   Buenos Aires Armadillos   D   DM
Tunbridge   Simon   Buenos Aires Armadillos   F   DF

Hanley   Pearce   Cairo Sands   DM   D
Goodes   Brett   Cairo Sands   D   DM
Pearce   Clancee   Cairo Sands   D   M
Cripps   Jamie   Cairo Sands   F   M
Marsh   Harrison   Cairo Sands   M   D

Thomas   Dale   Cape Town Cobras   M   MF
Vardy   Nathan   Cape Town Cobras   RF   R
Reid   Ben   Cape Town Cobras   DF   D
Bock   Nathan   Cape Town Cobras   F   DF
Karnezis   Patrick   Cape Town Cobras   MF   F
Haynes   Nick   Cape Town Cobras   D   MF
Everitt   Andrejs   Cape Town Cobras   D   F

Rockliff   Tom   Dublin Destroyers   M   MF
Dixon   Charlie   Dublin Destroyers   RF   D
Hansen   Lachlan   Dublin Destroyers   D   F
Frost   Sam   Dublin Destroyers   F   D
Bruce   Josh   Dublin Destroyers   D   DF
Warren   Max   Dublin Destroyers   D   M

McVeigh   Jarrad   London Royals   DM   M
Broadbent   Matthew   London Royals   D   M
Bellchambers   Tom   London Royals   RF   R
Edwards   Shane   London Royals   MF   F
Wright   Sam   London Royals   DF   D
Staker   Brent   London Royals   F   DF
Lumumba   Heritier   London Royals   DM   D
Menzel   Troy   London Royals   F   MF
Towers   Dean   London Royals   MF   M
Dalgleish   Lachlan   London Royals   D   M
Rampe   Dane   London Royals   D   M

Goddard   Brendon   Mexico City Suns   M   DM
Bartel   Jimmy   Mexico City Suns   DM   MF
Lewis   Jordan   Mexico City Suns   M   MF
Hodge   Luke   Mexico City Suns   DM   M
Prudden   Joshua   Mexico City Suns   M   DM
Addison   Dylan   Mexico City Suns   F   DF
Pearce   Daniel   Mexico City Suns   D   M
Carter   Adam   Mexico City Suns   D   M
Yarran   Chris   Mexico City Suns   F   D
Blicavs   Mark   Mexico City Suns   R   MR

Naitanui   Nic   Moscow Spetsnaz   R   RF
Heppell   Dyson   Moscow Spetsnaz   M   DM
Seedsman   Paul   Moscow Spetsnaz   D   M
Monfries   Angus   Moscow Spetsnaz   F   MF
Dunn   Lynden   Moscow Spetsnaz   D   DF
Jenkins   Josh   Moscow Spetsnaz   F   RF
Gault   Corey   Moscow Spetsnaz   D   R
Mooney   Caolan   Moscow Spetsnaz   F   M
Williams   Tom   Moscow Spetsnaz   F   DF
Sinclair   Callum   Moscow Spetsnaz   R   RF
Tapscott   Luke   Moscow Spetsnaz   F   D
Steinberg   Ariel   Moscow Spetsnaz   D   DF

Wellingham   Sharrod   New Delhi Tigers   M   MF
Mullett   Aaron   New Delhi Tigers   D   M
Murdoch   Jordan   New Delhi Tigers   F   DF
Hampson   Shaun   New Delhi Tigers   R   RF
Michie   Viv   New Delhi Tigers   M   F
Palmer   Rhys   New Delhi Tigers   MF   M

Stokes   Matthew   New York Revolution   M   F
Christensen   Allen   New York Revolution   M   MF
Kommer   Nicholas   New York Revolution   MF   M
Sinclair   Ben   New York Revolution   D   F
Lycett   Scott   New York Revolution   R   F
Brown   Mitchell W   New York Revolution   D   F

Hoskin-Elliott   Will   New York Revolution   M   MF
Young   Aaron   New York Revolution   M   F
Colledge   Brant   New York Revolution   F   DF

Mitchell   Tom   Pacific Islanders   F   M
Howlett   Ben   Pacific Islanders   MF   M
Otten   Andy   Pacific Islanders   DF   D
Hampton   Curtly   Pacific Islanders   D   DF
Day   Sam   Pacific Islanders   DF   F
Stanley   Rhys   Pacific Islanders   D   F
Oxley   Adam   Pacific Islanders   M   DF

Wingard   Chad   PNL Reindeers   MF   M
Simpson   Kade   PNL Reindeers   D   M
Rioli   Cyril   PNL Reindeers   F   MF
Myers   David   PNL Reindeers   M   D
Goldsack   Tyson   PNL Reindeers   D   F
Cordy   Ayce   PNL Reindeers   F   RF
Richards   Xavier   PNL Reindeers   D   DF

Walker   Andrew   Sao Paulo Pumas   D   MF
Roughead   Jarryd   Sao Paulo Pumas   F   RF
Hartlett   Hamish   Sao Paulo Pumas   M   DM
Daw   Majak   Sao Paulo Pumas   RF   R
Jacobs   Ben   Sao Paulo Pumas   M   D
Whitecross   Brendan   Sao Paulo Pumas   D   MF
Sumner   Liam   Sao Paulo Pumas   F   M
Paparone   Marco   Sao Paulo Pumas   F   MF
Newton   Ben   Sao Paulo Pumas   M   F
Hall   Josh   Sao Paulo Pumas   F   R

Dangerfield   Patrick   Seoul Magpies   MF   M
Gibbs   Bryce   Seoul Magpies   M   DM
Ellis   Brandon   Seoul Magpies   M   D
Swallow   David   Seoul Magpies   DM   M
Macaffer   Brent   Seoul Magpies   M   F
Roughead   Jordan   Seoul Magpies   D   DF
Sutcliffe   Cameron   Seoul Magpies   D   M
McBean   Liam   Seoul Magpies   F   RF
Roberts   Fletcher   Seoul Magpies   F   D
Duryea   Taylor   Seoul Magpies   D   M

Mitchell   Sam   Tokyo Samurai   DM   M
Selwood   Scott   Tokyo Samurai   R   M
Parker   Luke   Tokyo Samurai   MF   M
Henderson   Ricky   Tokyo Samurai   D   DF
Broughton   Greg   Tokyo Samurai   D   DF
Suban   Nick   Tokyo Samurai   M   D
O'Brien   Nicholas   Tokyo Samurai   M   F
Campbell   Tom   Tokyo Samurai   F   R
Van Unen   Dylan   Tokyo Samurai   M   D
Hams   William   Tokyo Samurai   M   DM
Merrett   Jackson   Tokyo Samurai   F   M

Ryder   Paddy   Toronto Wolves   R   RF
Pedersen   Cameron   Toronto Wolves   D   DR
Shaw   Matt   Toronto Wolves   DM   D
McGrath   Ashley   Toronto Wolves   F   DF
Whiley   Mark   Toronto Wolves   M   D

Lester   Ryan   Wellington Warriors   M   D
Neade   Jake   Wellington Warriors   F   MF
Jaksch   Kristian   Wellington Warriors   F   DF
Picken   Liam   Wellington Warriors   D   M
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on February 08, 2014, 09:24:37 PM
When are the groups for the preseason comp going to be done ossie?

I'm happy to do the randomisation if you're too busy :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on February 09, 2014, 05:58:51 AM
Quote from: Honey Badger on February 08, 2014, 09:24:37 PM
When are the groups for the preseason comp going to be done ossie?

I'm happy to do the randomisation if you're too busy :)

How about:

Americas+Russia

Europe/Africa

Asia/Oceania?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on February 09, 2014, 09:03:24 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on February 09, 2014, 05:58:51 AM
Quote from: Honey Badger on February 08, 2014, 09:24:37 PM
When are the groups for the preseason comp going to be done ossie?

I'm happy to do the randomisation if you're too busy :)

How about:

Americas+Russia

Europe/Africa

Asia/Oceania?
Mexico City & Sao Paulo. Sweeeeeet.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on February 09, 2014, 10:27:31 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on February 09, 2014, 05:58:51 AM
Quote from: Honey Badger on February 08, 2014, 09:24:37 PM
When are the groups for the preseason comp going to be done ossie?

I'm happy to do the randomisation if you're too busy :)

How about:

Americas+Russia

Europe/Africa

Asia/Oceania?
Americas+Russia was the top 4 last year wasn't it?  :o
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on February 09, 2014, 10:37:10 AM
Kk, how about:

1,6,7,12,13,18

2,5,8,11,14,17

3,4,9,10,15,16

Based on premiership rankings?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on February 09, 2014, 10:38:40 AM
Definitely looks a fairer way to do it.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on February 09, 2014, 12:16:38 PM
Yeah I like the second suggestion more
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on February 11, 2014, 11:33:14 AM

Coaching Records:

(Table without teams coached so it looks better)


Coach   W   L   P   w%
Maca24   37   7   44   84.09%
Honey Badger   36   9   45   80.00%
Nails   15   5   20   75.00%
Jukes   14   7   21   66.67%
My Chumps   27   14   41   65.85%
NigeyS   13   8   21   61.90%
specky92   3   2   5   60.00%
meow meow   12   8   20   60.00%
PowerBug   12   9   21   57.14%
Ringo   12   10   22   54.55%
roo boys!   21   18   39   53.85%
bomberboy0618   10   9   19   52.63%
MajorLazer   19   20   39   48.72%
ossie85   13   14   27   48.15%
Cookie Monster   7   8   15   46.67%
Sid   8   10   18   44.44%
Purple 77   18   23   41   43.90%
KoopKicka   8   11   19   42.11%
pothead   15   22   37   40.54%
JBs-Hawks   8   12   20   40.00%
c4v3m4n   7   11   18   38.89%
FisherSaints   12   19   31   38.71%
Holzman   14   23   37   37.84%
Hellopplz   14   23   37   37.84%
pyronerd   12   24   36   33.33%
Master Q   4   9   13   30.77%
Toga   4   9   13   30.77%
Boomz   11   26   37   29.73%
kilbluff1985   5   14   19   26.32%
Jayman   4   14   18   22.22%
tbagrocks   4   14   18   22.22%
elephants   1   5   6   16.67%
Torpedo10   1   7   8   12.50%
JROO8   0   7   7   0.00%

Table, including each team each coach has coached...



Coach   Teams   W   L   P   w%
Maca24   Mexico City, AAP Alliance, Americas, NSW/ACT/TAS   37   7   44   84.09%
Honey Badger   Sao Paulo, AAP Alliance, Americas, Indigenous All-Stars   36   9   45   80.00%
Nails   Buenos Aires, Americas   15   5   20   75.00%
Jukes   Moscow, Europe, Vic Metro   14   7   21   66.67%
My Chumps   Cape Town, Africa/Oceania, Indigenous All-Stars, South Australia   27   14   41   65.85%
NigeyS   Cairo, Africa/Oceania, Vic Country   13   8   21   61.90%
specky92   New Delhi, Internationals   3   2   5   60.00%
meow meow   Moscow, Internationals   12   8   20   60.00%
PowerBug   Buenos Aires, QLD/NT   12   9   21   57.14%
Ringo   London, EurAsia, Europe   12   10   22   54.55%
roo boys!   Internationals, QLD/NT   21   18   39   53.85%
bomberboy0618   Beijing, Western Australia   10   9   19   52.63%
MajorLazer   Cairo, Africa/Oceania, South Australia, Vic Country   19   20   39   48.72%
ossie85   Seoul, EurAsia, Africa/Oceania, Americas, Asia, Europe, Western Australia   13   14   27   48.15%
Cookie Monster   London, Vic Metro   7   8   15   46.67%
Sid   New York, NSW/ACT/TAS   8   10   18   44.44%
Purple 77   Berlin, Europe, Indigenous All-Stars, QLD/NT   18   23   41   43.90%
KoopKicka   Seoul, Asia, NSW/ACT/TAS   8   11   19   42.11%
pothead   Wellington, South Australia, Vic Country   15   22   37   40.54%
JBs-Hawks   Seoul, Asia, NSW/ACT/TAS   8   12   20   40.00%
c4v3m4n   Pacific, NSW/ACT/TAS   7   11   18   38.89%
FisherSaints   New Delhi, Internationals, Vic Country   12   19   31   38.71%
Holzman   Dublin, Europe, Vic Metro   14   23   37   37.84%
Hellopplz   PNL, Europe, Indigenous All-Stars, South Australia   14   23   37   37.84%
pyronerd   New York, NSW/ACT/TAS, Western Australia   12   24   36   33.33%
Master Q   Beijing, Asia, Vic Country   4   9   13   30.77%
Toga   Beijing, Asia, Vic Country   4   9   13   30.77%
Boomz   Tokyo, Asia, QLD/NT, Vic Metro   11   26   37   29.73%
kilbluff1985   Tokyo, Asia, Vic Metro   5   14   19   26.32%
Jayman   Pacific, Internationals   4   14   18   22.22%
tbagrocks   Pacific, Internationals   4   14   18   22.22%
elephants   New Delhi, Asia   1   5   6   16.67%
Torpedo10   New Delhi   1   7   8   12.50%
JROO8   Beijing   0   7   7   0.00%
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on February 11, 2014, 11:37:10 AM
 :o someones bored ;D :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on February 11, 2014, 11:49:14 AM
Going to try and break 50% this year

Should be doable.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on February 11, 2014, 11:51:40 AM
(http://lookpic.com/O/i2/1193/pqwkHKx.jpeg)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on February 11, 2014, 11:56:30 AM
Quote from: Holzman on February 11, 2014, 11:49:14 AM
Going to try and break 50% this year

Should be doable.

That's a 9 game differential....  a 12-5 season and winning 2 finals wouldn't do it (assuming you break even with rep matches).
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on February 11, 2014, 12:07:52 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on February 11, 2014, 11:56:30 AM
Quote from: Holzman on February 11, 2014, 11:49:14 AM
Going to try and break 50% this year

Should be doable.

That's a 9 game differential....  a 12-5 season and winning 2 finals wouldn't do it (assuming you break even with rep matches).

aiming for 13-4 season. Monster task, depends on injuries really.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on February 11, 2014, 01:01:42 PM
13-8? I'm happy with that!

(http://seattlesportsnet.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/anchorman-celebration-gif.gif)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on February 26, 2014, 10:58:55 AM
After 2 years... these are the trophies/premierships each team have one...

Trophy Cabinets/Achievements

Beijing
*cobwebs*

Berlin
2013 European Cup
2012 European Cup

Buenos Aires
*cobwebs*

Cairo
*cobwebs*

Cape Town
2012 World Idol
2013 Reserves Premiership
2013 Africonia Premier
2012 Africonia Premier
2013 African Cup
2012 African Cup

Dublin
*cobwebs* and a 2012 Wooden Spoon

London
2013 European Premier
2013 British Isles Cup
2012 British Isles Cup

Mexico City
2012 Premiership
2013 World Cup Winner (Comp between 4 XV leagues)
2013 Minor Premiership
2013 World Idol
2012 Reserves Premiership
2013 AAP Alliance Premier
2013 Americas Premier
2013 North American Cup

Moscow
2013 EurAsian Premier
2012 EurAsian Premier
2012 European Premier
2013 Peace Cup

New Delhi
2013 Asian Premier
2012 Asian Premier
2013 Billions Cup
2012 Billions Cup

New York
2013 John McCarthy Memorial Trophy
2012 Peace Cup

Pacific
*cobwebs*

PNL
*cobwebs*

Sao Paulo
2013 Premiership
2013 Champions League Winner (comp between 4 XV Leagues)
2012 Minor Premiership
2012 Preseason Premier
2012 AAP Alliance Premier
2012 Americas Premier
2013 PF Rhythm Cup
2013 Rhythm Cup
2012 QF Rhythm Cup
2012 Rhythm Cup

Seoul
2013 Preseason Premier
2013 Asian Cup
2012 Asian Cup

Tokyo
*cobwebs*

Toronto
2012 North American Cup

Wellington
2013 Oceania Cup
2012 Oceania Cup
* - and the 2013 Wooden Spoon

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on February 26, 2014, 11:02:25 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on February 26, 2014, 10:58:55 AM
After 2 years... these are the trophies/premierships each team have one...

Trophy Cabinets/Achievements

Cairo
*cobwebs*

(http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/32100000/Teary-Leo-leonardo-dicaprio-32149934-245-200.gif)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on February 26, 2014, 11:47:46 AM
Yay I have the most achievements :P

Can also add 2013 Champions League Winner, or is this specifically WXV only? Also you're missing the World Idol for Mexico City
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on February 26, 2014, 11:53:27 AM
Quote from: Honey Badger on February 26, 2014, 11:47:46 AM
Yay I have the most achievements :P

Can also add 2013 Champions League Winner, or is this specifically WXV only? Also you're missing the World Idol for Mexico City

^ will add those 2, plus the World Cup winner
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on February 26, 2014, 12:21:12 PM

Speaking of World Idol...

I thought there's no reason I couldn't backdate it for 2012....

... so I did.

Eliminated Teams by Round:

Round 1: Beijing
Round 2: Dublin
Round 3: London
Round 4: Pacific
Round 5: New York
Round 6: Cairo
Round 7: New Delhi
Round 8: PNL
Round 9: Berlin
Round 10: Moscow
Round 11: Wellington
Round 12: Toronto
Round 13: Tokyo
Round 14: Mexico City
Round 15: Seoul
Round 16: Buenos Aires
Round 17: Sao Paulo

Winner: Cape Town
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on February 26, 2014, 12:25:13 PM
I'd say Cairo have no luck, but we did have that win streak last season.

I shall continue to pray that wasn't a purple patch.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on February 26, 2014, 12:55:54 PM
Gah no luck! :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on February 26, 2014, 01:00:25 PM
No big deal but NDT have the fourth most trophies in the league.

#top4 #doublechance
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on February 26, 2014, 01:01:54 PM
Quote from: Honey Badger on February 26, 2014, 12:55:54 PM
Gah no luck! :(
Because you don't already have a long list of achievements?  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on February 26, 2014, 01:06:20 PM
Quote from: elephants on February 26, 2014, 01:00:25 PM
No big deal but NDT have the fourth most trophies in the league.

#top4 #doublechance

This annoys me, as I was coach of Seoul at the time:

QuoteAsian Premiership

2012
Position   Name   Score   Scored Against   Wins   Loses   Percentage
1   New Delhi Tigers   385   374   2   1   102.94
2   Beijing Bears   414   427   2   1   96.96
3   Tokyo Samurai   421   413   1   2   101.94
4   Seoul Magpies   423   429   1   2   98.60

Ladder worked out to be REVERSE order of most points scored :/ No justice
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on February 26, 2014, 01:53:51 PM
Need to fix up your leaky defence then Os ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on February 26, 2014, 03:46:22 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on February 26, 2014, 12:21:12 PM

Speaking of World Idol...

I thought there's no reason I couldn't backdate it for 2012....

... so I did.

Eliminated Teams by Round:

Round 1: Beijing
Round 2: Dublin
Round 3: London
Round 4: Pacific
Round 5: New York
Round 6: Cairo
Round 7: New Delhi
Round 8: PNL
Round 9: Berlin
Round 10: Moscow
Round 11: Wellington
Round 12: Toronto
Round 13: Tokyo
Round 14: Mexico City
Round 15: Seoul
Round 16: Buenos Aires
Round 17: Sao Paulo

Winner: Cape Town
Add it to our already sizeable list of achievements :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on March 02, 2014, 07:39:09 AM
WXV admin ossie85 has the following statement:

"Wish to advise that we find it frustrating the length of time it has taken ASADA proceedings to occur. Until findings and recommendations are announced, we fully support the clubs and players involved."

The players under cloud, having admitted they have been injected with Thymosin, AOD-9604 or both, are:

Tom Bellchambers (London)
Alex Browne (Tokyo)
Stewart Crameri (Mexico City, at Buenos Aires in 2012)
Ricky Dyson (not currently listed, at Beijing in 2012)
Scott Gumbleton (Beijing)
Kyle Hardingham (Pacific, at Mexico City in 2012)
Dyson Heppell (Moscow, at New York in 2012)
Michael Hibberd (Berlin)
Heath Hocking (Seoul, at Tokyo in 2012)
Michael Hurley (Pacific, at London in 2012)
Sam Lonergan (not currently listed, at New Delhi in 2012)
Jake Melksham (New Delhi, at New York in 2012)
Tayte Pears (Tokyo)
Jobe Watson (Dublin, at Cape Town in 2012)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on March 02, 2014, 09:32:48 AM
hey Ossman you missed Heath Hocking and Michael Hibberd
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on March 02, 2014, 10:00:05 AM
#CleanAtCairo
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on March 02, 2014, 10:37:50 AM
Boomz i hope you got rid of the evidence like i said they are onto us
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on March 02, 2014, 10:41:28 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on March 02, 2014, 10:00:05 AM
#CleanAtCairo
#cleanatPNL

hmmm maybe that's the problem :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on March 02, 2014, 01:09:14 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on March 02, 2014, 09:32:48 AM
hey Ossman you missed Heath Hocking and Michael Hibberd

Fixed
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on March 02, 2014, 02:14:01 PM
A number of Worlds coaches/teams have been fairly quiet this off-season/pre-season. Hoping the activity picks up once the season gets going.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on March 02, 2014, 04:28:14 PM
The Royals have been working on strategies behind closed doors and with the latest ASADA development effecting Captain Stanton and our number one Ruck injured as well Bellchambers we need to really have a new game plan ready.

The Royals may surprise again but without a perma ruck due to injury will be behind the eight ball.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Boomz on March 02, 2014, 04:33:40 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 02, 2014, 10:37:50 AM
Boomz i hope you got rid of the evidence like i said they are onto us

Just keep quiet Dank  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on March 02, 2014, 05:17:32 PM
Quote from: Ringo on March 02, 2014, 04:28:14 PM
The Royals may surprise again but without a perma ruck due to injury will be behind the eight ball.

Meanwhile, over at NDT, Shaun Hampson has had a ripping pre-season and due to.. err.. unfortunate injuries to other players from other teams he's suddenly #1 ruck ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on March 05, 2014, 01:57:36 PM

Rules thread updated...

And I'll point out that because of the thousand of bonus/penalty points should clarify how rounding works..

ALL bonus/penalties are applied independently of each other (if your Captain is lowest score in home game, say he scores 20 points, he will get 20 points for being captain and 20 points for home advantage = 60. It won't be 20*2*2 = 80.).

All rounding is done UPWARDS. 20.1 = 21 points.

BUT, rounding is applied at the end of bonus/penalties. Example, Jobe Watson was rested the week before and is Co-Captain this week.

He scores 103.

He gets 51.5 points bonus for Co-Captains, and 10.3 points for resting. These two are added together (51.5 + 10.3 = 61.8) and then rounded (61.8 = 62). It isn't 52 + 11 = 63.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on March 05, 2014, 06:35:54 PM
Right, I'm acknowledging it now. My start of the season doesn't look great.

Cons

Garland, Clark and Steven won't be available due to injury for at least round 1, maybe till round 3  :(

Worrying signs for Jack Grimes being used in a negating role... may or may not happen  :-\

Concerns over depth in my defense and forward lines as far as quality goes. NAB challenge matches make me think that, but I guess they are only NAB matches.

Is Michael Hibberd ok after that hammy? Minor or not, it concerns me.

NAB no shows for my richmond trio Jackson, Grimes and Conca. Actually, maybe Conca did play... but not impressively otherwise it would have caught my eye. Add to that Mad Jack Viney and Brad Crouch.

2 out of my 4 rucks haven't played, one only playing one match (Fitzy), be he won't be a solid scorer

Underwhelming performance by all my forwards, except for...

Pros

the wonderful Dayne Zorko  :D

Jack Trengove looks the beans!

Fyfe! And fellow former-Destroyer Lachie Hunter.

Georgiou looks worth a measly Rookie Pick 15

McDonough and Honeychurch generally being mentioned favourably



As you can see, Cons outweigh Pros, so I am declaring this an "Underdone Pre-Season" for my Brewers  :-[

But I am still confident over another season reminiscent of 2013  :D

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on March 10, 2014, 04:31:39 PM
Douglas gone for six weeks, that's a bit of a blow.  :-\
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on March 10, 2014, 04:56:43 PM
So is a thread for the first round going to be put up soon ossie or too busy with your little pet project the V League? :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on March 10, 2014, 05:04:44 PM
Quote from: Honey Badger on March 10, 2014, 04:56:43 PM
So is a thread for the first round going to be put up soon ossie or too busy with your little pet project the V League? :P

lol

Cheers for the reminder!

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,91066.0.html
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on March 10, 2014, 08:21:12 PM
Can we have a quick reminder/overview of the new rules in place this season?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on March 10, 2014, 08:27:38 PM
Quote from: Master Q on March 10, 2014, 08:21:12 PM
Can we have a quick reminder/overview of the new rules in place this season?

Check the rule thread or open forum last couple of posts


Btw, any news from anyone on Maca? Hope he is ok, but looks like we made the right decision
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Boomz on March 11, 2014, 06:15:24 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on March 10, 2014, 08:27:38 PM
Quote from: Master Q on March 10, 2014, 08:21:12 PM
Can we have a quick reminder/overview of the new rules in place this season?

Check the rule thread or open forum last couple of posts


Btw, any news from anyone on Maca? Hope he is ok, but looks like we made the right decision

Pothead is friends with him from memory so he'd know if pots around?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: pothead on March 17, 2014, 04:56:41 PM
Quote from: Boomz on March 11, 2014, 06:15:24 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on March 10, 2014, 08:27:38 PM
Quote from: Master Q on March 10, 2014, 08:21:12 PM
Can we have a quick reminder/overview of the new rules in place this season?

Check the rule thread or open forum last couple of posts


Btw, any news from anyone on Maca? Hope he is ok, but looks like we made the right decision

Pothead is friends with him from memory so he'd know if pots around?
Yeah i saw maca just the other day i think he just lost interest and he thinks its too time consuming from what he said
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on March 17, 2014, 05:08:19 PM
Understandable, but very ordinary not to let people know
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on March 17, 2014, 05:09:34 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on March 17, 2014, 05:08:19 PM
Understandable, but very ordinary not to let people know
Beat me to it.

The least he could have done was let us know.  :-X
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: pothead on March 17, 2014, 07:37:58 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on March 17, 2014, 05:09:34 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on March 17, 2014, 05:08:19 PM
Understandable, but very ordinary not to let people know
Beat me to it.

The least he could have done was let us know.  :-X
Yeah i said that too him but he didnt seem to care much  :-\
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on March 17, 2014, 07:44:28 PM
Quote from: pothead on March 17, 2014, 07:37:58 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on March 17, 2014, 05:09:34 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on March 17, 2014, 05:08:19 PM
Understandable, but very ordinary not to let people know
Beat me to it.

The least he could have done was let us know.  :-X
Yeah i said that too him but he didnt seem to care much  :-\
he just couldn't stand losing to CF/HB :P...lol
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on March 17, 2014, 10:21:42 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on March 17, 2014, 07:44:28 PM
Quote from: pothead on March 17, 2014, 07:37:58 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on March 17, 2014, 05:09:34 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on March 17, 2014, 05:08:19 PM
Understandable, but very ordinary not to let people know
Beat me to it.

The least he could have done was let us know.  :-X
Yeah i said that too him but he didnt seem to care much  :-\
he just couldn't stand losing to CF/HB :P...lol
Was thinking the same thing ;)
I recall at the start of last year maca saying he was planning on staying on for a long time and wasn't going to be put off by the fact that he had an ageing squad that would need a rebuild in the not so distant future. I guess he changed his mind...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on March 17, 2014, 11:23:57 PM
Quote from: Honey Badger on March 17, 2014, 10:21:42 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on March 17, 2014, 07:44:28 PM
Quote from: pothead on March 17, 2014, 07:37:58 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on March 17, 2014, 05:09:34 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on March 17, 2014, 05:08:19 PM
Understandable, but very ordinary not to let people know
Beat me to it.

The least he could have done was let us know.  :-X
Yeah i said that too him but he didnt seem to care much  :-\
he just couldn't stand losing to CF/HB :P...lol
Was thinking the same thing ;)
I recall at the start of last year maca saying he was planning on staying on for a long time and wasn't going to be put off by the fact that he had an ageing squad that would need a rebuild in the not so distant future. I guess he changed his mind...

Guess you can say he didn't have Nails-like dedication.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on March 18, 2014, 06:58:59 AM
Quote from: Nails on March 17, 2014, 11:23:57 PM
Quote from: Honey Badger on March 17, 2014, 10:21:42 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on March 17, 2014, 07:44:28 PM
Quote from: pothead on March 17, 2014, 07:37:58 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on March 17, 2014, 05:09:34 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on March 17, 2014, 05:08:19 PM
Understandable, but very ordinary not to let people know
Beat me to it.

The least he could have done was let us know.  :-X
Yeah i said that too him but he didnt seem to care much  :-\
he just couldn't stand losing to CF/HB :P...lol
Was thinking the same thing ;)
I recall at the start of last year maca saying he was planning on staying on for a long time and wasn't going to be put off by the fact that he had an ageing squad that would need a rebuild in the not so distant future. I guess he changed his mind...

Guess you can say he didn't have Nails-like dedication.
Yeah you've lost to me more than anyone and you're still around :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Maca24 on March 19, 2014, 11:58:10 AM
Hey guys just thought I'd come here and apologize for my absence and too ossie for leaving unannounced! Hope I didn't cause any problems.. Still got too much on to be active again but I'll be popping up every now and again to check things out! :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on April 07, 2014, 03:42:23 PM

Sup guys

Will be creating quite a few new 'V League' threads soon, but will ask m0nty for V League child board so it will only be temporary.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on April 10, 2014, 01:46:26 AM
The spam! But all good, pretty sure it'll be fun watching how the bidding goes tomorrow near deadlines!

If I may ask Oss, regarding the rest rule. Thinking of using it, but just say the rested player then gets injured that week. Are we still forced to play him the following week (and then have to plan an emergency to cover them, so using up an emergency spot to cover him). Or can we just not name him since injured and get all 3 emergency spots like normal?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on April 10, 2014, 05:07:01 AM
Quote from: Hellopplz on April 10, 2014, 01:46:26 AM
The spam! But all good, pretty sure it'll be fun watching how the bidding goes tomorrow near deadlines!

If I may ask Oss, regarding the rest rule. Thinking of using it, but just say the rested player then gets injured that week. Are we still forced to play him the following week (and then have to plan an emergency to cover them, so using up an emergency spot to cover him). Or can we just not name him since injured and get all 3 emergency spots like normal?

If they aren't named in afl team you dint need to name them,  but you lose any rest bonus when they do return
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on April 10, 2014, 08:49:05 PM
Cheers Oss, figured that'd be the case!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on April 10, 2014, 09:17:08 PM
First time Dane Swan has ever been optionally rested?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on April 10, 2014, 09:38:00 PM
Go rest rule then Nails, then get 1.5X his score next week but must play him! Could actually be a good time if you're going to drop him anyway....
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on April 10, 2014, 09:39:03 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on April 10, 2014, 09:38:00 PM
Go rest rule then Nails, then get 1.5X his score next week but must play him! Could actually be a good time if you're going to drop him anyway....
1.1, not 1.5 :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on April 10, 2014, 09:42:26 PM
My mistake! Been a while since the rules were introduced, all I know is that there was a bonus :P.

And I knew something was wrong when I said 1.5 as that seemed a tad high haha.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on April 10, 2014, 09:43:03 PM
IDK HP as he's first emergency and therefore if he's called up to the team he'll be a great sub/emergency.

I'd like to rest him but I only really have Jordie McKenzie, Lin Jong or Brad Sewell (when he returns) as cover whilst Barlow is out. Therefore don't want to rest Swan then have to suffer a McKenzie/Jong sub affected 20.

Though my opposition I could probably beat with 14 players, after last week's shocker I'd prefer not risk it.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on April 10, 2014, 09:43:20 PM
so depressing 7 best xv players injured where is a tiny violin when u need one
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on April 10, 2014, 09:47:49 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on April 10, 2014, 09:43:20 PM
so depressing 7 best xv players injured where is a tiny violin when u need one
(http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/2zoktxy.gif)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on April 10, 2014, 09:49:22 PM
nah he looks happy not a good fit
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on April 10, 2014, 09:50:56 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on April 10, 2014, 09:49:22 PM
nah he looks happy not a good fit
Your wish is my command.

(http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2012/12/tiniest_violin.gif)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on April 10, 2014, 09:52:23 PM
much netter
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on April 10, 2014, 09:56:08 PM
I was just about to find that one Nigey ;D.

Quote from: Nails on April 10, 2014, 09:43:03 PM
IDK HP as he's first emergency and therefore if he's called up to the team he'll be a great sub/emergency.

I'd like to rest him but I only really have Jordie McKenzie, Lin Jong or Brad Sewell (when he returns) as cover whilst Barlow is out. Therefore don't want to rest Swan then have to suffer a McKenzie/Jong sub affected 20.

Though my opposition I could probably beat with 14 players, after last week's shocker I'd prefer not risk it.
Fair enough, is certainly better than most teams' first emergencies :P.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on April 12, 2014, 09:20:27 AM
Kb came up with a really interesting idea over in the British

I really like it, but have tweaked it a bit:

Tagging

You choose a player to tag an opposition player

Your player loses 20%, the opposition player loses 10%

This would be for 2015 at earliest.....
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on April 12, 2014, 09:26:16 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on April 12, 2014, 09:20:27 AM
Kb came up with a really interesting idea over in the British

I really like it, but have tweaked it a bit:

Tagging

You choose a player to tag an opposition player

Your player loses 20%, the opposition player loses 10%

This would be for 2015 at earliest.....

I'd be for it if the tagger loses a bigger percentage. I could play Nathan Brown on Gary Ablett... 20% just doesn't seem harsh enough IMO
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on April 12, 2014, 09:31:53 AM
Don't like it.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on April 12, 2014, 08:34:25 PM
Not a fan either.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on April 12, 2014, 08:36:57 PM
Yeah agree with the others, not a fan of that rule
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on April 12, 2014, 08:50:10 PM
Trophy for biggest score of the season? #Dillos2013 #Dillos2014
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on April 17, 2014, 11:04:10 PM
What a joke... Kreuzer, Shiels and now Caddy all out for at least a month each... Bullshower!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on April 17, 2014, 11:15:25 PM
Quote from: Toga on April 17, 2014, 11:04:10 PM
What a joke... Kreuzer, Shiels and now Caddy all out for at least a month each... Bullshower!

only 3 is that all? you obviously not seen Tokyo's injury list
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on April 17, 2014, 11:16:54 PM
Yeah but guys out for 12, 4 and 8 weeks respectively. Some of our  best players as well which hits hard for a team with showerty depth.

Oh, and Lewis Stevenson on the LTI now as well ::)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on April 17, 2014, 11:22:45 PM
Quote from: Toga on April 17, 2014, 11:16:54 PM
Oh, and Lewis Stevenson on the LTI now as well ::)
You're welcome.  :P :-*
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on April 17, 2014, 11:23:24 PM
we have had Judd, Ibbo, Henderson, Tippett, Motlop out for most of or all the season also Dahlhaus and Shuey last week
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on April 17, 2014, 11:34:43 PM
Yeah, we've been told mate ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on April 17, 2014, 11:44:34 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on April 17, 2014, 11:23:24 PM
we have had Judd, Ibbo, Henderson, Tippett, Motlop out for most of or all the season also Dahlhaus and Shuey last week
Judd is back this week probably, so can't use him in there anymore :P.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on April 17, 2014, 11:45:32 PM
Wait...


Tokyo has been missing some players?? :o
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on April 17, 2014, 11:47:52 PM
Quote from: Honey Badger on April 17, 2014, 11:45:32 PM
Wait...


Tokyo has been missing some players?? :o

Yeah you wouldn't have known would you Badge, nothing's been said about it :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on April 17, 2014, 11:48:27 PM
Quote from: Honey Badger on April 17, 2014, 11:45:32 PM
Wait...


Tokyo has been missing some players?? :o
First I've heard about it. Surprised the coaching staff haven't made a bigger deal out of it!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on April 18, 2014, 11:50:21 AM
Quote from: Honey Badger on April 17, 2014, 11:45:32 PM
Wait...


Tokyo has been missing some players?? :o
As if! I call bullshower.  :o
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on April 28, 2014, 06:42:23 PM
Always nice to open up Supercoach and see the top two available forwards (already own NRoo and Danger) in Zorko and Gray are both averaging over 100, and I traded both of them away!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on April 29, 2014, 11:36:18 AM
Quote from: roo boys! on April 28, 2014, 06:42:23 PM
Always nice to open up Supercoach and see the top two available forwards (already own NRoo and Danger) in Zorko and Gray are both averaging over 100, and I traded both of them away!

I needed a winning trade after trading Swallow  :-[

Hendo will come good  :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 05, 2014, 04:48:29 PM
Sam Mitchell out for 8 weeks  :'(

our Salary cap going to be flowered again to prob the most annoying thing
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on May 05, 2014, 06:38:28 PM
I forgot we have that salary cap in this... PNL may be going over at our rate :(.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on May 05, 2014, 09:38:16 PM
I totally forgot about the salary cap as well.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on May 06, 2014, 12:44:25 AM
Thinking we might be ok this season with the domination of our ressies side!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on May 06, 2014, 02:57:17 PM
Yo fellas,

Af is doing positional changes this week (I know right?)

Is this something coaches would like wxv to copy?

No players are losing positions,  just gaining
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 06, 2014, 03:00:14 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on May 06, 2014, 02:57:17 PM
Yo fellas,

Af is doing positional changes this week (I know right?)

Is this something coaches would like wxv to copy?

No players are losing positions,  just gaining

yeah i don't see any negative reason not to do it
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on May 06, 2014, 03:01:49 PM
If it'll only help teams out, I say go for it.

Although I wouldn't be for it normally, think a few teams may be helped by it so why not :).
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on May 06, 2014, 03:03:52 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on May 06, 2014, 02:57:17 PM
Yo fellas,

Af is doing positional changes this week (I know right?)

Is this something coaches would like wxv to copy?

No players are losing positions,  just gaining

Strongly against it, if this was the case would have traded accordingly during the offseason to bring in guys I predicted would gain dpp. Not against it being added next year but not this year.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on May 06, 2014, 03:09:44 PM
Quote from: Holzman on May 06, 2014, 03:03:52 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on May 06, 2014, 02:57:17 PM
Yo fellas,

Af is doing positional changes this week (I know right?)

Is this something coaches would like wxv to copy?

No players are losing positions,  just gaining

Strongly against it, if this was the case would have traded accordingly during the offseason to bring in guys I predicted would gain dpp. Not against it being added next year but not this year.

Yeah I'm with Holz on this one.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on May 06, 2014, 03:10:26 PM
I'm strongly for it. Adds realism to the competition. It's stupid when you're stuck with a midfielder who gets a lower average because they shifted that season to the back line or forward line.

IMO maybe we can vote on it?

This comp has been mostly designed for realism yes? I think it'd be stupid to continue to force coaches to play some defenders as midfielders or forwards as midfielders or similar when really they're not in that position anymore.

And if teams are only gaining DPP then it can only be good imo.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 06, 2014, 03:10:36 PM
vote  ;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on May 06, 2014, 03:11:46 PM
Ill send a vote around tonight,  but given timing might not be ready by this round
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on May 06, 2014, 03:12:54 PM
Quote from: Nails on May 06, 2014, 03:10:26 PM
I'm strongly for it. Adds realism to the competition. It's stupid when you're stuck with a midfielder who gets a lower average because they shifted that season to the back line or forward line.

IMO maybe we can vote on it?

This comp has been mostly designed for realism yes? I think it'd be stupid to continue to force coaches to play some defenders as midfielders or forwards as midfielders or similar when really they're not in that position anymore.

And if teams are only gaining DPP then it can only be good imo.

Agreed it's a good thing, just not this year. We play according to the rules of the comp and they shouldn't be changed mid year. Gives an unfair advantage to some in the comp.

Dublin will probably be one of the teams to benefit but I'm still against it.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on May 06, 2014, 03:18:08 PM
Yeah intro it next season but I don't like changes happening mid-season thats all.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on May 06, 2014, 03:27:29 PM
It's not a rule change though.

The rule has been to have positions as the SC/AF/RDT competitions have listed them. It has been the same as all 3 comps as these 3 have always been identical for positions.

To adjust positions to match what AF is changing to is simply refreshing/updating/keeping fresh our positions. It's not changing any rules. It's sticking to the rules.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on May 06, 2014, 03:30:31 PM
I'm for it. Let's do it.

It doesn't disadvantage anybody, and if anything... will only help. Just because you didn't see it coming and didn't "trade for it" in anticipation of it is no reason to oppose it.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on May 06, 2014, 03:35:40 PM
Quote from: Nails on May 06, 2014, 03:27:29 PM
It's not a rule change though.

The rule has been to have positions as the SC/AF/RDT competitions have listed them. It has been the same as all 3 comps as these 3 have always been identical for positions.

To adjust positions to match what AF is changing to is simply refreshing/updating/keeping fresh our positions. It's not changing any rules. It's sticking to the rules.

But by following AF we're ignoring what DT and SC are doing.

If we were really committing to this, something should have been said prior to round 1 imo. AF does tend to make rules up on the fly though haha

Quote from: NigeyS on May 06, 2014, 03:30:31 PM
I'm for it. Let's do it.

It doesn't disadvantage anybody, and if anything... will only help. Just because you didn't see it coming and didn't "trade for it" in anticipation of it is no reason to oppose it.

Not entirely true, other teams can be disadvantaged if they don't get favourable dpp changes yet everyone else around them does!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on May 06, 2014, 03:40:36 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 06, 2014, 03:35:40 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on May 06, 2014, 03:30:31 PM
I'm for it. Let's do it.

It doesn't disadvantage anybody, and if anything... will only help. Just because you didn't see it coming and didn't "trade for it" in anticipation of it is no reason to oppose it.

Not entirely true, other teams can be disadvantaged if they don't get favourable dpp changes yet everyone else around them does!
Well, I guess that's just kind of bad luck (tbh, if I was one of those that didn't get a DPP gain I wouldn't be cut). I mean, I suppose there are some obvious candidates for gains, but it's not like 12 teams will get a DPP change and 4 won't - not very probable.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on May 06, 2014, 03:52:02 PM
Just looking, we have 1203728637812678 midfielders and like 4 backs and 3 fwds... This is probably worth it for NDT...

I like it ;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on May 06, 2014, 04:03:23 PM
If Worlds does go with the changes, I really hope Nippa Gordon gets F eligibility as he really should already have it.  ::)

Matt McDonough would have to be a chance of gaining D eligibility too (who has him?).
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on May 06, 2014, 04:04:31 PM
I'm mainly looking at Welly (possible fwd) and Hutchy (unlikely but possible fwd).

Would be so handy since we have 3 playing fwds atm!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on May 06, 2014, 04:06:15 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 06, 2014, 04:04:31 PM
I'm mainly looking at Welly (possible fwd) and Hutchy (unlikely but possible fwd).

Would be so handy since we have 3 playing fwds atm!
Mark Hutchings woud look good in Cairo's forward line.  ;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on May 06, 2014, 04:57:02 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on May 06, 2014, 04:03:23 PM
If Worlds does go with the changes, I really hope Nippa Gordon gets F eligibility as he really should already have it.  ::)

Matt McDonough would have to be a chance of gaining D eligibility too (who has him?).

>:D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on May 06, 2014, 04:59:51 PM
First feeling was against it. Mainly because its AF doing it, not the pacesetters in SC and DT. To me, this is SC linked game and should remain linked through their positions. If all comps were doing it, I guess I have no problem.

Sort of feels like we are using a third party to have a say in our positions, and I don't like it. Not a fan unless the big boys follow suit (SC and DT, christ AF is bad). Feels unprofessional on top of all things.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on May 06, 2014, 05:04:45 PM
I don't actually have my own team here but I'm opposed to it completely.

It is unfair on the teams that don't receive any changes that would help them. I'm sure many people would have traded differently if they knew these changes were coming. Pretty much like Ele said, any mid-season rule change is abit stupid IMO.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on May 06, 2014, 05:05:26 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on May 06, 2014, 04:59:51 PM
First feeling was against it. Mainly because its AF doing it, not the pacesetters in SC and DT. To me, this is SC linked game and should remain linked through their positions. If all comps were doing it, I guess I have no problem.

Sort of feels like we are using a third party to have a say in our positions, and I don't like it. Not a fan unless the big boys follow suit (SC and DT, christ AF is bad). Feels unprofessional on top of all things.
I don't think it will hurt the comp but more against it because this is SC based, SC aren't doing this.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on May 06, 2014, 05:17:00 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on May 06, 2014, 05:05:26 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on May 06, 2014, 04:59:51 PM
First feeling was against it. Mainly because its AF doing it, not the pacesetters in SC and DT. To me, this is SC linked game and should remain linked through their positions. If all comps were doing it, I guess I have no problem.

Sort of feels like we are using a third party to have a say in our positions, and I don't like it. Not a fan unless the big boys follow suit (SC and DT, christ AF is bad). Feels unprofessional on top of all things.
I don't think it will hurt the comp but more against it because this is SC based, SC aren't doing this.

i agree with this

2 things
1.we usually do not change things mid season - i know it isn't a rule change per se but regardless things always get changed at EOS

2. We use SC as our base game scoring and  all that so i do not think using AF position changes is the right way to go
whats happens if say next season SC doesn't follow suit or AF keeps changing to what they feel like - for example
next season AF says Cox is back to R/F but SC says his simply R - what then?
yes i know usually they follow each other but obviously they are breaking tradition by doing this in the first place

dunno i know it is only a little thing like positions and we really can all benefit so not a problem their i just think it opens a can of worms imo

(lol even though i'm just an assistant that is my 2 cents :P )
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on May 06, 2014, 05:27:00 PM
This ain't Euros.

No from me at this stage, but will have to discuss with my Co-Coach.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on May 06, 2014, 05:38:45 PM
Quote from: Master Q on May 06, 2014, 05:27:00 PM
This ain't Euros.

No from me at this stage, but will have to discuss with my Co-Coach.

euro isnt doing it.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on May 06, 2014, 05:46:22 PM
Quote from: Holzman on May 06, 2014, 05:38:45 PM
Quote from: Master Q on May 06, 2014, 05:27:00 PM
This ain't Euros.

No from me at this stage, but will have to discuss with my Co-Coach.

euro isnt doing it.
Yeah, but Euros is based on the AF/DT game. This is SC.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 06, 2014, 05:49:43 PM
i think Goddard will get M/F kinda think Watson might also
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on May 06, 2014, 06:02:10 PM
Think it will be obvious ones like frawley to forward
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 06, 2014, 06:04:22 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on May 06, 2014, 06:02:10 PM
Think it will be obvious ones like frawley to forward

Goddard been playing heaps forwards

Carlisle should be D/F maybe just a forward next year :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on May 06, 2014, 06:09:28 PM
Quote from: Vinny on May 06, 2014, 05:04:45 PM
I don't actually have my own team here but I'm opposed to it completely.

It is unfair on the teams that don't receive any changes that would help them. I'm sure many people would have traded differently if they knew these changes were coming. Pretty much like Ele said, any mid-season rule change is abit stupid IMO.

Don't make me smack you back into line Mr. Buenos Aires Assistant :P we're FOR this! lol
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on May 06, 2014, 06:11:01 PM
Quote from: Nails on May 06, 2014, 06:09:28 PM
Quote from: Vinny on May 06, 2014, 05:04:45 PM
I don't actually have my own team here but I'm opposed to it completely.

It is unfair on the teams that don't receive any changes that would help them. I'm sure many people would have traded differently if they knew these changes were coming. Pretty much like Ele said, any mid-season rule change is abit stupid IMO.

Don't make me smack you back into line Mr. Buenos Aires Assistant :P we're FOR this! lol
I like it to, can only favour us.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on May 06, 2014, 06:14:05 PM
^^And thats why it shouldnt be put to a vote.

Also to the people saying it only helps.

What if i am playing Nails and his d4 averages 70. James Kelly gets given DPP and brings his d4 up to a 95 average. Then nails beats me by 20 points? How the flower does this help me?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on May 06, 2014, 06:15:19 PM
Some people say unfair because blah...

I'd say some coaches are suffering unfairly due to this rule not being in place. e.g. some people trading in players like *random name* James Kelly with expectations he'd play as a midfielder with midfielder output. But instead receive James Kelly defender and be stuck with him in mids.

but I'll leave out the point where Kelly is average more as a defender than last year as mid (if he was mid)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on May 06, 2014, 06:15:48 PM
Quote from: Nails on May 06, 2014, 06:09:28 PM
Quote from: Vinny on May 06, 2014, 05:04:45 PM
I don't actually have my own team here but I'm opposed to it completely.

It is unfair on the teams that don't receive any changes that would help them. I'm sure many people would have traded differently if they knew these changes were coming. Pretty much like Ele said, any mid-season rule change is abit stupid IMO.

Don't make me smack you back into line Mr. Buenos Aires Assistant :P we're FOR this! lol
Fire him.  :o
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on May 06, 2014, 06:17:41 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on May 06, 2014, 06:14:05 PM
^^And thats why it shouldnt be put to a vote.

Also to the people saying it only helps.

What if i am playing Nails and his d4 averages 70. James Kelly gets given DPP and brings his d4 up to a 95 average. Then nails beats me by 20 points? How the flower does this help me?

oh jb plz, let's be serious? 20 point win against Seoul? No need to get silly here jb.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on May 06, 2014, 06:19:39 PM
Quote from: Nails on May 06, 2014, 06:17:41 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on May 06, 2014, 06:14:05 PM
^^And thats why it shouldnt be put to a vote.

Also to the people saying it only helps.

What if i am playing Nails and his d4 averages 70. James Kelly gets given DPP and brings his d4 up to a 95 average. Then nails beats me by 20 points? How the flower does this help me?

oh jb plz, let's be serious? 20 point win against Seoul? No need to get silly here jb.

Just hypotheticals :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on May 06, 2014, 06:20:01 PM
Quote from: Nails on May 06, 2014, 06:15:19 PM
Some people say unfair because blah...

I'd say some coaches are suffering unfairly due to this rule not being in place. e.g. some people trading in players like *random name* James Kelly with expectations he'd play as a midfielder with midfielder output. But instead receive James Kelly defender and be stuck with him in mids.

but I'll leave out the point where Kelly is average more as a defender than last year as mid (if he was mid)

what is the difference to any other season that is the risk You as coach take no one forced you to do that trade

but weather it helps you or hinders you
same as us at PNL weather it helps or not
i still think SC Scoring SC positions
until SC change it we don't

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 06, 2014, 06:20:53 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on May 06, 2014, 06:15:48 PM
Quote from: Nails on May 06, 2014, 06:09:28 PM
Quote from: Vinny on May 06, 2014, 05:04:45 PM
I don't actually have my own team here but I'm opposed to it completely.

It is unfair on the teams that don't receive any changes that would help them. I'm sure many people would have traded differently if they knew these changes were coming. Pretty much like Ele said, any mid-season rule change is abit stupid IMO.

Don't make me smack you back into line Mr. Buenos Aires Assistant :P we're FOR this! lol
Fire him.  :o

fire Vinny lol
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on May 06, 2014, 06:24:14 PM
Quote from: Nails on May 06, 2014, 06:09:28 PM
Quote from: Vinny on May 06, 2014, 05:04:45 PM
I don't actually have my own team here but I'm opposed to it completely.

It is unfair on the teams that don't receive any changes that would help them. I'm sure many people would have traded differently if they knew these changes were coming. Pretty much like Ele said, any mid-season rule change is abit stupid IMO.

Don't make me smack you back into line Mr. Buenos Aires Assistant :P we're FOR this! lol

A position always available at the destroyers if he wants to join the winning team.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on May 06, 2014, 06:31:47 PM
Quote from: Holzman on May 06, 2014, 06:24:14 PM
Quote from: Nails on May 06, 2014, 06:09:28 PM
Quote from: Vinny on May 06, 2014, 05:04:45 PM
I don't actually have my own team here but I'm opposed to it completely.

It is unfair on the teams that don't receive any changes that would help them. I'm sure many people would have traded differently if they knew these changes were coming. Pretty much like Ele said, any mid-season rule change is abit stupid IMO.

Don't make me smack you back into line Mr. Buenos Aires Assistant :P we're FOR this! lol

A position always available at the destroyers if he wants to join the winning team.
Oh please.

Position   Name   Score   Scored Against   Wins   Losses   Points   Percentage
1   Buenos Aires Armadillos   1086   906   7   0   28   119.87
2   Mexico City Suns   1077   944   6   1   24   114.09
3   Dublin Destroyers   1044   943   5   2   20   110.71

Last time I heard, first was better than third.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on May 06, 2014, 06:38:29 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on May 06, 2014, 06:31:47 PM
Quote from: Holzman on May 06, 2014, 06:24:14 PM
Quote from: Nails on May 06, 2014, 06:09:28 PM
Quote from: Vinny on May 06, 2014, 05:04:45 PM
I don't actually have my own team here but I'm opposed to it completely.

It is unfair on the teams that don't receive any changes that would help them. I'm sure many people would have traded differently if they knew these changes were coming. Pretty much like Ele said, any mid-season rule change is abit stupid IMO.

Don't make me smack you back into line Mr. Buenos Aires Assistant :P we're FOR this! lol

A position always available at the destroyers if he wants to join the winning team.
Oh please.

Position   Name   Score   Scored Against   Wins   Losses   Points   Percentage
1   Buenos Aires Armadillos   1086   906   7   0   28   119.87
2   Mexico City Suns   1077   944   6   1   24   114.09
3   Dublin Destroyers   1044   943   5   2   20   110.71

Last time I heard, first was better than third.

Chance for a dynasty will be up for years. Dillos might not be able to field a team next year.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on May 06, 2014, 06:45:35 PM
Quote from: Holzman on May 06, 2014, 06:38:29 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on May 06, 2014, 06:31:47 PM
Quote from: Holzman on May 06, 2014, 06:24:14 PM
Quote from: Nails on May 06, 2014, 06:09:28 PM
Quote from: Vinny on May 06, 2014, 05:04:45 PM
I don't actually have my own team here but I'm opposed to it completely.

It is unfair on the teams that don't receive any changes that would help them. I'm sure many people would have traded differently if they knew these changes were coming. Pretty much like Ele said, any mid-season rule change is abit stupid IMO.

Don't make me smack you back into line Mr. Buenos Aires Assistant :P we're FOR this! lol

A position always available at the destroyers if he wants to join the winning team.
Oh please.

Position   Name   Score   Scored Against   Wins   Losses   Points   Percentage
1   Buenos Aires Armadillos   1086   906   7   0   28   119.87
2   Mexico City Suns   1077   944   6   1   24   114.09
3   Dublin Destroyers   1044   943   5   2   20   110.71

Last time I heard, first was better than third.

Chance for a dynasty will be up for years. Dillos might not be able to field a team next year.
Wasn't that said last year??? And we're stronger than last year 8) #DillosAllTheWay
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on May 06, 2014, 07:08:22 PM
Watch out fellas, I'm actually putting effort into WXVs this year as can be witnessed by the team thread:

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,86915.0.html

With our averages up to date and our player selection skills increased as a result, we going to be even more potent ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on May 06, 2014, 07:12:24 PM
Quote from: Nails on May 06, 2014, 07:08:22 PM
Watch out fellas, I'm actually putting effort into WXVs this year as can be witnessed by the team thread:

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,86915.0.html

With our averages up to date and our player selection skills increased as a result, we going to be even more potent ;)
Hmm maybe I should start putting in some effort then :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on May 06, 2014, 07:13:42 PM
Only started last week because of Suns match up. I never put effort in, just guess at random. But now it's like statistically analysed and shower.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on May 06, 2014, 07:14:38 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on May 06, 2014, 06:14:05 PM
What if i am playing Nails and his d4 averages 70. James Kelly gets given DPP and brings his d4 up to a 95 average. Then nails beats me by 20 points? How the flower does this help me?

THIS, is what I was trying to say earlier. When someone is being advantaged, someone else is always being disadvantaged.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on May 06, 2014, 07:17:31 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 06, 2014, 07:14:38 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on May 06, 2014, 06:14:05 PM
What if i am playing Nails and his d4 averages 70. James Kelly gets given DPP and brings his d4 up to a 95 average. Then nails beats me by 20 points? How the flower does this help me?

THIS, is what I was trying to say earlier. When someone is being advantaged, someone else is always being disadvantaged.

Then Nails is being punished for having great depth and not able to play Kelly because Champion Data screwed up the positions at the start of the season :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on May 06, 2014, 07:58:51 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on May 06, 2014, 05:05:26 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on May 06, 2014, 04:59:51 PM
First feeling was against it. Mainly because its AF doing it, not the pacesetters in SC and DT. To me, this is SC linked game and should remain linked through their positions. If all comps were doing it, I guess I have no problem.

Sort of feels like we are using a third party to have a say in our positions, and I don't like it. Not a fan unless the big boys follow suit (SC and DT, christ AF is bad). Feels unprofessional on top of all things.
I don't think it will hurt the comp but more against it because this is SC based, SC aren't doing this.
This

Even though it probably would help me with Higgins likely to get F/D and maybe Thomas to regain forward eligibility. Not keen.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on May 10, 2014, 10:16:50 AM

Well, votes are mostly in, with a 5 for and 9 against making the changes. I was leaning against also, so we stay the course for the rest of the year
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on May 10, 2014, 10:21:57 AM
Nooooooooo we need J Kelly in defence  :'(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on May 10, 2014, 10:30:47 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on May 10, 2014, 10:16:50 AM

Well, votes are mostly in, with a 5 for and 9 against making the changes. I was leaning against also, so we stay the course for the rest of the year
best outcome imo
stick to SC
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on May 10, 2014, 11:38:32 AM
Quote from: DazBurg on May 10, 2014, 10:30:47 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on May 10, 2014, 10:16:50 AM

Well, votes are mostly in, with a 5 for and 9 against making the changes. I was leaning against also, so we stay the course for the rest of the year
best outcome imo
stick to SC
Yep.

Proud of most of my fellow WXV coaches  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on May 10, 2014, 02:42:11 PM
Yeah, for the best definitely.


Higgins F/B would've been handy though :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on May 10, 2014, 03:05:23 PM
Fyfe 78 half time  :D

But then I look at the rest of the game related results... Jeez duffman is a rollercoaster
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on May 11, 2014, 06:42:52 PM
Time to start tanking.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on May 11, 2014, 06:53:38 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on May 11, 2014, 06:42:52 PM
Time to start tanking.

assumed you had already
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 11, 2014, 07:11:21 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on May 11, 2014, 06:53:38 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on May 11, 2014, 06:42:52 PM
Time to start tanking.

assumed you had already

ouch
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on May 11, 2014, 08:03:09 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on May 11, 2014, 06:53:38 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on May 11, 2014, 06:42:52 PM
Time to start tanking.

assumed you had already

LOL
Love it Ossman
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on May 11, 2014, 08:05:18 PM
Still love ya nige
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on May 11, 2014, 08:36:19 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on May 11, 2014, 08:05:18 PM
Still love ya nige
brb, writing my resignation.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on May 11, 2014, 08:48:21 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on May 11, 2014, 08:36:19 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on May 11, 2014, 08:05:18 PM
Still love ya nige
brb, writing my resignation.

#probablyforthebetter
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 11, 2014, 08:53:53 PM
Tokyo announcing Nigey will be joining us as an assistant coach
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on May 11, 2014, 09:18:21 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on May 11, 2014, 08:53:53 PM
Tokyo announcing Nigey will be joining us as an assistant coach
another Ex coach to toyko as an assistant
Tokyo where senile coaches go to pasture :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 11, 2014, 09:20:17 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on May 11, 2014, 09:18:21 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on May 11, 2014, 08:53:53 PM
Tokyo announcing Nigey will be joining us as an assistant coach
another Ex coach to toyko as an assistant
Tokyo where senile coaches go to pasture :P

they fit in well with the head coaches what can i say all senile at Tokyo
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on May 15, 2014, 02:41:50 PM
Good news for Alexandria with Jed Bews to make his debut.  :D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on May 22, 2014, 07:31:17 PM
THE MUMMY RETURNS!  8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on May 22, 2014, 07:50:09 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on May 22, 2014, 07:31:17 PM
THE MUMMY RETURNS!  8)
Lets see if you guys start winning again :P.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on May 22, 2014, 07:51:33 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on May 22, 2014, 07:50:09 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on May 22, 2014, 07:31:17 PM
THE MUMMY RETURNS!  8)
Lets see if you guys start winning again :P.
Just wait and see.  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 22, 2014, 10:27:27 PM
#mummyforredvest
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on May 22, 2014, 10:41:58 PM
#almostguaranteed
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on May 22, 2014, 10:43:43 PM
Mummy red vest, first half. Cairo no sub rule.

20 point captain.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on May 22, 2014, 10:47:09 PM
Doesn't even matter guys since Cairo aren't playing this week ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 22, 2014, 10:47:42 PM
#restmummy
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on May 22, 2014, 10:56:55 PM
It was pretty lol when I went to the footy with HP and one of his players was the sub and he hadn't used the sub rule.

Though he wasn't angry enough about it imo. Probably a sign of tanking. Sack him imo. Only logical option.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on May 23, 2014, 08:13:40 PM
Quote from: Nails on May 22, 2014, 10:56:55 PM
It was pretty lol when I went to the footy with HP and one of his players was the sub and he hadn't used the sub rule.

Though he wasn't angry enough about it imo. Probably a sign of tanking. Sack him imo. Only logical option.
If Reindeers don't make finals, there will be some coaching changes at PNL ;).

I'm just lucky that sub-rule didn't cost us the win in the end, then would have been more pissed :-X.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on May 23, 2014, 09:11:56 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on May 23, 2014, 08:13:40 PM
Quote from: Nails on May 22, 2014, 10:56:55 PM
It was pretty lol when I went to the footy with HP and one of his players was the sub and he hadn't used the sub rule.

Though he wasn't angry enough about it imo. Probably a sign of tanking. Sack him imo. Only logical option.
If Reindeers don't make finals, there will be some coaching changes at PNL ;).

I'm just lucky that sub-rule didn't cost us the win in the end, then would have been more pissed :-X.

yeah HP will sign on as head coach just at a lesser rate :D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on May 23, 2014, 10:09:35 PM
Guthrie and Hawkins pick a good week to have great games :(

Still promising signs though.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 02, 2014, 04:22:12 PM
The next 5 weeks are going to be tough, but the side is pretty much full strength and we seem to be regaining form.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on June 02, 2014, 04:45:26 PM
another injury for Tokyo with West :'(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on June 02, 2014, 04:46:45 PM
Sidey gone for three  :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 07, 2014, 08:55:21 AM


Some really solid assistants floating around that deserve a team! I encourage you to apply:

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,96405.0.html
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on June 08, 2014, 09:41:00 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-06-08/johnson-may-miss-a-month

Leading's game holder at the club and would have to be just behind Pendles in key players for Toronto this season! Has been ridiculously consistent and will be a big loss.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 08, 2014, 10:38:59 PM
Watson gone for a while.
Boak currently missing with an ankle.
NDS got hurt today
Buddy might get suspended

and Dillos next week.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on June 08, 2014, 10:41:08 PM
I wish our problems were that few :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 08, 2014, 10:43:37 PM
Quote from: Nails on June 08, 2014, 10:41:08 PM
I wish our problems were that few :(

this all in just 1 week though, been killing it the last month and this is the game i  really want to win.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on June 08, 2014, 11:25:46 PM
hey Ossie have you got an easy way to see Tokyo's current Total points scored for the whole list so far this season?

if you have to add them up don't worry but thought you might have it on a spreadsheet

just curious
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on June 08, 2014, 11:39:04 PM
Rico ain't going nowhere so don't god dang try!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on June 09, 2014, 12:03:51 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 08, 2014, 11:25:46 PM
hey Ossie have you got an easy way to see Tokyo's current Total points scored for the whole list so far this season?

if you have to add them up don't worry but thought you might have it on a spreadsheet

just curious
Could always make one yourself. That's what I've done :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on June 09, 2014, 12:07:34 AM
Quote from: Honey Badger on June 09, 2014, 12:03:51 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 08, 2014, 11:25:46 PM
hey Ossie have you got an easy way to see Tokyo's current Total points scored for the whole list so far this season?

if you have to add them up don't worry but thought you might have it on a spreadsheet

just curious
Could always make one yourself. That's what I've done :)

probably but i'm hopeless with spreadsheets was just curious what our salary cap is going to look like
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on June 09, 2014, 12:41:28 AM
Quote from: Nails on June 08, 2014, 10:41:08 PM
I wish our problems were that few :(
Pretty sure a weakened Dillos squad will still get over PNL this week :'(.

Btw, The bookies are paying $1.05 for PNL to go over the salary cap this season :P.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on June 09, 2014, 12:53:20 AM
Out of curiosity,was the idea behind the salary cap to keep the competition equal across the board?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on June 09, 2014, 12:58:47 AM
Quote from: elephants on June 09, 2014, 12:53:20 AM
Out of curiosity,was the idea behind the salary cap to keep the competition equal across the board?
What else would it be for ele?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on June 09, 2014, 01:04:44 AM
Quote from: Master Q on June 09, 2014, 12:58:47 AM
Quote from: elephants on June 09, 2014, 12:53:20 AM
Out of curiosity,was the idea behind the salary cap to keep the competition equal across the board?
What else would it be for ele?

Well I wasn't here when the comp first started up so I didn't know if that was the actual aim. For example, the actual purpose of the salary cap could be to make the competition unique and to add a little bit of complexity and challenge come trade time. Equalisation might be a by-product.

This is relevant to me because I've been doing some thinking.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 09, 2014, 06:14:05 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 08, 2014, 11:25:46 PM
hey Ossie have you got an easy way to see Tokyo's current Total points scored for the whole list so far this season?

if you have to add them up don't worry but thought you might have it on a spreadsheet

just curious

Yep, no problem. Will wait until this round finishes and send it over. WXV scores or AFL scores?

Quote from: elephants on June 09, 2014, 01:04:44 AM
Quote from: Master Q on June 09, 2014, 12:58:47 AM
Quote from: elephants on June 09, 2014, 12:53:20 AM
Out of curiosity,was the idea behind the salary cap to keep the competition equal across the board?
What else would it be for ele?

Well I wasn't here when the comp first started up so I didn't know if that was the actual aim. For example, the actual purpose of the salary cap could be to make the competition unique and to add a little bit of complexity and challenge come trade time. Equalisation might be a by-product.

This is relevant to me because I've been doing some thinking.

My attempt for equalisation, yes
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on June 09, 2014, 09:24:11 AM
Quote from: elephants on June 09, 2014, 01:04:44 AM
This is relevant to me because I've been doing some thinking.
(http://www.culture-games.com/wp-content/uploads/post/gameboy-mod-10.jpg)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on June 09, 2014, 09:29:19 AM
Um not sure just whatever our current Salary cap is

Just want to see if it looks like we'll be over or under the minimum

Cheers
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on June 09, 2014, 11:42:33 AM
Quote from: Honey Badger on June 09, 2014, 09:24:11 AM
Quote from: elephants on June 09, 2014, 01:04:44 AM
This is relevant to me because I've been doing some thinking.
(http://www.culture-games.com/wp-content/uploads/post/gameboy-mod-10.jpg)

;)



Cheers Oss!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on June 12, 2014, 04:08:42 PM
did you forget about the salary cap request Ossie? :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on June 12, 2014, 05:06:51 PM
Glass retired. Big blow to our backline  :-X
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 12, 2014, 05:15:13 PM
Quote from: Master Q on June 12, 2014, 05:06:51 PM
Glass retired. Big blow to our backline  :-X

That's nothing I lost bootsma.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on June 12, 2014, 05:27:17 PM
Quote from: Holzman on June 12, 2014, 05:15:13 PM
Quote from: Master Q on June 12, 2014, 05:06:51 PM
Glass retired. Big blow to our backline  :-X

That's nothing I lost bootsma.

He's got you there Q.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on June 12, 2014, 05:28:15 PM
Quote from: Master Q on June 12, 2014, 05:06:51 PM
Glass retired. Big blow to our backline  :-X

Very, just puts even more strain on our depth ::)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 12, 2014, 05:33:46 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 12, 2014, 04:08:42 PM
did you forget about the salary cap request Ossie? :P

yes lol
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 13, 2014, 11:11:59 AM

So... how's the cap tracking for all?

After 10 rounds this is how many points your squad has scored in the first 10 rounds, and based on this, what you are projected to end up after 17 rounds.

PNL the only team tracking over maximum 31,500, while Beijing the only team tracking under minimum 24,000.

Team   R1-R10   Projected
PNL Reindeers   19353   32900
Mexico City Suns   18524   31491
Cairo Sands   18288   31090
Dublin Destroyers   17901   30432
Toronto Wolves   17652   30008
Seoul Magpies   17457   29677
Buenos Aires Armadillos   17205   29249
Sao Paulo Pumas   17061   29004
Pacific Islanders   16513   28072
Cape Town Cobras   16455   27974
Moscow Spetsnaz   16421   27916
New Delhi Tigers   16032   27254
London Royals   15888   27010
Tokyo Samurai   15287   25988
Berlin Brewers   14616   24847
Wellington Warriors   14451   24567
New York Revolution   14376   24439
Beijing Thunder   13835   23520
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on June 13, 2014, 11:13:59 AM
Mine should end up much higher than that, as within the next couple of weeks I will be getting a good chunk of my team back...

24847 doesn't sit well with me.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on June 13, 2014, 11:17:19 AM
flower yeh. We might actually be able to trade properly this year :-X
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on June 13, 2014, 11:19:07 AM
I figured PNL would be tracking to go over :(.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: AaronKirk on June 13, 2014, 11:19:45 AM
There is good scope for New York to be aggressive at the trade table.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on June 13, 2014, 12:20:45 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on June 13, 2014, 11:19:07 AM
I figured PNL would be tracking to go over :(.

we'll prob be trading our what will most likely be a top 5 pick so maybe we can negotiate  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on June 13, 2014, 01:04:29 PM
Argh, that's annoying. Was hoping we'd be over this year :( Would've been fine if Krooz, Caddy and co. stayed on the bloody park
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 13, 2014, 03:24:39 PM
Wow, we axed a bit of depth but clearly some of our offseason recruitments have pretty much just taken their place.

At least we're under and not over.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on June 13, 2014, 03:41:37 PM
Quote from: Toga on June 13, 2014, 01:04:29 PM
Argh, that's annoying. Was hoping we'd be over this year :( Would've been fine if Krooz, Caddy and co. stayed on the bloody park
Still time to turn it around! Retirements and injuries hurt though.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 13, 2014, 05:55:27 PM
because I can, ill get trade talks off for the season early.

Robbie Gray, anyone want him?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on June 13, 2014, 06:01:21 PM
Yes please
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: AaronKirk on June 13, 2014, 06:03:54 PM
If Gray is still classified as a mid/forward then absolutely.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on June 13, 2014, 06:08:17 PM
Buy low, sell high ay Holz?  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 13, 2014, 06:26:46 PM
Quote from: Holzman on June 13, 2014, 05:55:27 PM
because I can, ill get trade talks off for the season early.

Robbie Gray, anyone want him?
If he's still a forward, definitely!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 13, 2014, 06:28:17 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 13, 2014, 06:08:17 PM
Buy low, sell high ay Holz?  :P

what are you talking about, I would be selling him at a low. Keeps improving every single game ;)

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on June 13, 2014, 06:28:30 PM
I love Gray, and  already have Westy + Wingard + Gray combo in Euro's but don't think Daz likes us being Port dependent :P.

PNL may be looking to move Goldsack, Dawes and possibly a big name forward if the right offer comes along ;).
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 13, 2014, 06:29:14 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on June 13, 2014, 06:28:30 PM
I love Gray, and  already have Westy + Wingard + Gray combo in Euro's but don't think Daz likes us being Port dependent :P.

PNL may be looking to move Goldsack, Dawes and possibly a big name forward if the right offer comes along ;).

good thing the port players want to come join captain boak.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on June 13, 2014, 06:29:47 PM
Quote from: Holzman on June 13, 2014, 05:55:27 PM
because I can, ill get trade talks off for the season early.

Robbie Gray, anyone want him?
You almost traded him to me last year. Bet you're glad you didn't now ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on June 13, 2014, 06:30:25 PM
i reckon Holz is just teasing and wont sell him

i have a certain brother of one of his players i know he wants lol
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 13, 2014, 06:30:36 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on June 13, 2014, 06:28:30 PM
I love Gray, and  already have Westy + Wingard + Gray combo in Euro's but don't think Daz likes us being Port dependent :P.

PNL may be looking to move Goldsack, Dawes and possibly a big name forward if the right offer comes along ;).
We'll take Dawes too.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 13, 2014, 06:30:58 PM
Quote from: Honey Badger on June 13, 2014, 06:29:47 PM
Quote from: Holzman on June 13, 2014, 05:55:27 PM
because I can, ill get trade talks off for the season early.

Robbie Gray, anyone want him?
You almost traded him to me last year. Bet you're glad you didn't now ;)

yeah that one worked out well in my favour.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 13, 2014, 06:38:25 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 13, 2014, 06:30:25 PM
i reckon Holz is just teasing and wont sell him

i have a certain brother of one of his players i know he wants lol

everyone bar Goldy Birchall Selwood Rocky are available.

scooter is having a shocker,
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 13, 2014, 06:40:08 PM
Quote from: Holzman on June 13, 2014, 06:38:25 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 13, 2014, 06:30:25 PM
i reckon Holz is just teasing and wont sell him

i have a certain brother of one of his players i know he wants lol

everyone bar Goldy Birchall Selwood Rocky are available.

scooter is having a shocker,
If that's the case, your whole forward line interests me, except for Spuddy... keep him.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on June 13, 2014, 06:41:41 PM
Il give you Mcglynn  back for Scooter kb.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on June 13, 2014, 07:17:30 PM
Quote from: Holzman on June 13, 2014, 06:38:25 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 13, 2014, 06:30:25 PM
i reckon Holz is just teasing and wont sell him

i have a certain brother of one of his players i know he wants lol

everyone bar Goldy Birchall Selwood Rocky are available.

scooter is having a shocker,

yeah i know  :o i didn't expect a straight swap though our 1st pick could be in play also

a Ruck is our priority though i think
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on June 13, 2014, 08:31:38 PM
(http://i.gyazo.com/cb4ead1f413c9842b6590cd7384f84df.png)

I think it's fair to say, the Dublin-PNL alliance may be helped with the above trade :P.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 13, 2014, 08:35:31 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on June 13, 2014, 08:31:38 PM
(http://i.gyazo.com/cb4ead1f413c9842b6590cd7384f84df.png)

I think it's fair to say, the Dublin-PNL alliance may be helped with the above trade :P.

Sam Gray and at Dublin, Bootsma has been given the name Rocky for his rocks in his brain.

So yeah Sam Gray + Boots for Rioli lets do it.

Boots is a huge loss.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on June 13, 2014, 09:28:06 PM
You can always keep Bootsma on your list forever ;). Just don't delist him and he'll be there in spirit!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on June 13, 2014, 09:29:22 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on June 13, 2014, 09:28:06 PM
You can always keep Bootsma on your list forever ;). Just don't delist him and he'll be there in spirit!

So many possible jokes  :-X
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on June 13, 2014, 10:52:34 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 13, 2014, 06:08:17 PM
Buy low, sell high ay Holz?  :P
:'(

You'll probably do the same with Zorko too

:'(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 14, 2014, 02:34:33 AM
Quote from: roo boys! on June 13, 2014, 10:52:34 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 13, 2014, 06:08:17 PM
Buy low, sell high ay Holz?  :P
:'(

You'll probably do the same with Zorko too

:'(

I tried to get jroo of you but you insisted on gray. Same with purp, I wanted wells but settled for nds.

Got lucky on both counts
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on June 14, 2014, 10:09:54 AM
It still stings that I traded away Dwallow... if he was a pure mid it would sting so much less... at least he will be next year
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on June 14, 2014, 10:10:25 AM
Quote from: roo boys! on June 13, 2014, 10:52:34 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 13, 2014, 06:08:17 PM
Buy low, sell high ay Holz?  :P
:'(

You'll probably do the same with Zorko too

:'(

It was the one trade I got really, really lucky in  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on June 14, 2014, 10:40:25 AM
Quote from: Hellopplz on June 13, 2014, 06:28:30 PM
PNL may be looking to move Goldsack, Dawes and possibly a big name forward if the right offer comes along ;).

PNL also may table some others as well
this off season will be more active for PNL i hope
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 14, 2014, 11:29:16 AM
Idea to avoid byes next year, just an idea, cos I like thinking of them.

Currently we have 23 rounds, with 3 of them bye rounds. We split that into 17 WXV Rounds, 4 weeks of finals and 1 Representative week. While I think the current way of handling the bye rounds (1.5 rounds), I've never been a huge fan.

A solution? This:

Based on current scoring (so will change at end of year), and keeping rivals intact, have the following groups:

A: Dublin, London, PNL, Berlin, Pacific, Wellington (total 8075 points)
B: Mexico City, Toronto, Moscow, New York, Seoul, Tokyo (total 8209 points)
C: Sao Paulo, Buenos Aires, Cairo, Cape Town, Beijing, New Delhi (total 8122 points)


Rounds 1-10

Each Group Plays everyone else in the group twice.

Rounds 11-15

Top Tier: 1st and 2nd place in each group
Middle Tier: 3rd and 4th place in each group
Bottom Tier: 5th and 6th place in each group

Each Tier plays everyone in that tier once. Top tier plays for positions in top 6, middle tier plays for last 2 finals spots, bottom tier plays for pride.

4 Weeks of Finals

Same as AFL, with positions decided by:

1st: 1st in Top Tier
2nd: 2nd in Top Tier
3rd: 3rd in Top Tier
4th: 4th in Top Tier

5th: 5th in Top Tier
6th: 6th in Top Tier
7th: 1st in Middle Tier
8th: 2nd in Middle Tier

So 1st v 4th, 2nd v 3rd, 5th v 8th, 6th v 7th, etc....

The Three Bye Rounds

State of Origin Matches

Left over Round

EurAsia and APP Alliance Match

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 14, 2014, 11:31:10 AM
I really like the idea Oss, top work.  8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on June 14, 2014, 11:58:06 AM
While I appreciate the amount of thought and work put into this oz, but I am never going to support a tiered competition.

I hate the feeling of other teams being in a different group to me, it feels, unless you are in the top tier, that your achievement in your group is meaningless without having played the better teams, and hence would have a mostly meaningless year. Like, who would care how you went in the bottom or middle tier in a given week when the top teams are battling it out each week?

Nice idea, but one I won't be supporting to implement in Worlds.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 14, 2014, 12:05:43 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 14, 2014, 11:58:06 AM
While I appreciate the amount of thought and work put into this oz, but I am never going to support a tiered competition.

I hate the feeling of other teams being in a different group to me, it feels, unless you are in the top tier, that your achievement in your group is meaningless without having played the better teams, and hence would have a mostly meaningless year. Like, who would care how you went in the bottom or middle tier in a given week when the top teams are battling it out each week?

Nice idea, but one I won't be supporting to implement in Worlds.

I know I use the word tier, but it really isn't.

Basically it means after 10 rounds only 12 teams have a shot at finals.  Basically that is the same as it is now. Really only 12 have a real shot now
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on June 14, 2014, 01:46:35 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 14, 2014, 12:05:43 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 14, 2014, 11:58:06 AM
While I appreciate the amount of thought and work put into this oz, but I am never going to support a tiered competition.

I hate the feeling of other teams being in a different group to me, it feels, unless you are in the top tier, that your achievement in your group is meaningless without having played the better teams, and hence would have a mostly meaningless year. Like, who would care how you went in the bottom or middle tier in a given week when the top teams are battling it out each week?

Nice idea, but one I won't be supporting to implement in Worlds.

I know I use the word tier, but it really isn't.

Basically it means after 10 rounds only 12 teams have a shot at finals.  Basically that is the same as it is now. Really only 12 have a real shot now

Yes, but it is out of playing 5 teams twice. The opponents you would have normally played may or may not have been beatable, and could shape your season in an entirely different way.

The idea takes a gigantic step away from modelling the AFL. We have rules to try and emulate the AFL as much as possible, so to have a completely different format to it... it wouldn't feel like fantasy football to me. *well purps, it is a FANTASY comp after all*, however true, the only fantasy aspects here is that players score fantasy points, play 15 on the field and play with their real life rivals; the things we can't control.

I just think an untraditional format will lead to untraditional results and ladder placings.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on June 14, 2014, 01:50:00 PM
yeah i'm not a fan of this idea

if it ain't broke....
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on June 16, 2014, 06:25:40 PM
just curious

if you end the season under the minimum salary cap what happens if anything if you don't start the year over the minimum cap via trading?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 16, 2014, 06:28:22 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 16, 2014, 06:25:40 PM
just curious

if you end the season under the minimum salary cap what happens if anything if you don't start the year over the minimum cap via trading?
You get removed as coach and banished from WXVs forever.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on June 16, 2014, 06:29:51 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 16, 2014, 06:25:40 PM
just curious

if you end the season under the minimum salary cap what happens if anything if you don't start the year over the minimum cap via trading?
Nothing. Trading is just restricted that you can't lose points in a trade until you are above the minimum. You could chose not to trade at all if you wanted to.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: AaronKirk on June 16, 2014, 07:37:38 PM
I tend to agree with Purps.

While we all appreciate the amount of time and effort you put into this oz, I just don't like the idea of a skewed competition.

If the idea suggested is implemented it would be very likely that there will be skewed results which don't reflect the strength of each individual team which will lead to results and ladder positions which alter significantly from the relative performances of other teams.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 16, 2014, 08:51:17 PM
Oss You have done a lot of work but to try and get an even tiered comp.  Whilst it looks good on paper the competition could still get a little bit uneven and have the effect of a team that may finish 3rd in a "Tier" which could easily defeat Teams 1 or 2 in another "Tier" and yet miss out on finals.

Correct me if I am wrong but as I understand Teams 1 & 2 in each "Tier" are guaranteed of finals regardless of outcomes in rounds 11 - 15 and teams 3 & 4 ine each "Tier" are then fighting for the final 2 positions in the 8.
If I am correct how much interest will teams 5& 6 in the "Tier" in competing knowing they will not get anywhere how hard they try. Could be a devastating blow to the competition.

Trading may strengthen a team and if we go down this track competition would need to reviewed and will be subjective as well.

The other problem I see at the moment it is based on where sides currently sit but it could be that some teams have played the Top teams and others yet to play as well.

One or 2 bad weeks by a team due to injuries etc under the tiered system could wreck a season whereas under the current system you get a chance to climb back up.

Trying to work out some out cons for the system but having a little trouble sorry oss. One possible change I may suggest countering my arguments is having the 5th and 6th "Tier" Teams fighting for draft order with the order decided on how the Teams finish with order highest to lowest.

May have interpreted it incorrectly so correct me if wrong Oss.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 17, 2014, 04:06:47 PM

^ yeah, understand correctly Ringo

Except I was only using this as an example, would have used the final ladder to decide the groupings!


Something I really would like to add to the comp are ways to impact the scoring of the opposition. Currently, it is just who scores more than who....

One way is I'd like to revamp the Flood and Attack rules.

Basically, if you FLOOD (5 defenders, 3 attack), you DECREASE the score of the opposition forwards by 10% each but increase the oppositions forwards by 10% (and vice-versa if you ATTACK). Unless the other team matches you.

And I'm still a huge fan of kilbluff's tagging idea. My take would be that you choose one player to tag the opposition, and the player tagged loses 25% of its score and the tagger loses 50%. The tagger would have to be in the same line though....




Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 17, 2014, 04:14:40 PM
With that flood/attack idea though, if I see the Pumas attacking, couldn't I just employ the tactic to cancel it out?

Not really a fan of the tagging idea.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on June 17, 2014, 04:15:48 PM
if the tagger loses 50% it seems pointless just seems like it cancels it out
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 17, 2014, 04:17:25 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on June 17, 2014, 04:14:40 PM
With that flood/attack idea though, if I see the Pumas attacking, couldn't I just employ the tactic to cancel it out?

Yes you could, and I think that's a great thing

Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 17, 2014, 04:15:48 PM
if the tagger loses 50% it seems pointless just seems like it cancels it out

Has to be some risk involved...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on June 17, 2014, 04:20:58 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 17, 2014, 04:17:25 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on June 17, 2014, 04:14:40 PM
With that flood/attack idea though, if I see the Pumas attacking, couldn't I just employ the tactic to cancel it out?

Yes you could, and I think that's a great thing

Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 17, 2014, 04:15:48 PM
if the tagger loses 50% it seems pointless just seems like it cancels it out

Has to be some risk involved...

what risk? it would just be pointless
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on June 17, 2014, 04:25:05 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 17, 2014, 04:20:58 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 17, 2014, 04:17:25 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on June 17, 2014, 04:14:40 PM
With that flood/attack idea though, if I see the Pumas attacking, couldn't I just employ the tactic to cancel it out?

Yes you could, and I think that's a great thing

Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 17, 2014, 04:15:48 PM
if the tagger loses 50% it seems pointless just seems like it cancels it out

Has to be some risk involved...

what risk? it would just be pointless

It's stupid if its 50-50. I could just get Zac Dawson to tag the oppositions 100 ave backman every week and it would never fail. Fact is, tags don't always work. If a tagger scores 50 and loses 50% thats a 25 point loss. If GAJ scores 150 and loses 25% thats a 37.5 point loss.

Therefore, you'd consider the tag a win.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on June 17, 2014, 04:28:41 PM
Big fan of the tagging idea. I can see it being used probably as regularly as resting, so that not often, but it would add a great element to this game.

Flood and Attack rules I could get behind as well.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on June 17, 2014, 04:30:37 PM
I like resting but I'm not a huge fan of tagging/flood/attack...

If it ain't broke..
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on June 17, 2014, 04:41:15 PM
Quote from: elephants on June 17, 2014, 04:25:05 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 17, 2014, 04:20:58 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 17, 2014, 04:17:25 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on June 17, 2014, 04:14:40 PM
With that flood/attack idea though, if I see the Pumas attacking, couldn't I just employ the tactic to cancel it out?

Yes you could, and I think that's a great thing

Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 17, 2014, 04:15:48 PM
if the tagger loses 50% it seems pointless just seems like it cancels it out

Has to be some risk involved...

what risk? it would just be pointless

It's stupid if its 50-50. I could just get Zac Dawson to tag the oppositions 100 ave backman every week and it would never fail. Fact is, tags don't always work. If a tagger scores 50 and loses 50% thats a 25 point loss. If GAJ scores 150 and loses 25% thats a 37.5 point loss.

Therefore, you'd consider the tag a win.

yeah but your playing the tagging instead of someone you have that could surely score like even 70 so really it's like 45 points your losing by playing a tagger in Dawson
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on June 17, 2014, 04:43:00 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 17, 2014, 04:41:15 PM
Quote from: elephants on June 17, 2014, 04:25:05 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 17, 2014, 04:20:58 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 17, 2014, 04:17:25 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on June 17, 2014, 04:14:40 PM
With that flood/attack idea though, if I see the Pumas attacking, couldn't I just employ the tactic to cancel it out?

Yes you could, and I think that's a great thing

Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 17, 2014, 04:15:48 PM
if the tagger loses 50% it seems pointless just seems like it cancels it out

Has to be some risk involved...

what risk? it would just be pointless

It's stupid if its 50-50. I could just get Zac Dawson to tag the oppositions 100 ave backman every week and it would never fail. Fact is, tags don't always work. If a tagger scores 50 and loses 50% thats a 25 point loss. If GAJ scores 150 and loses 25% thats a 37.5 point loss.

Therefore, you'd consider the tag a win.

yeah but your playing the tagging instead of someone you have that could surely score like even 70 so really it's like 45 points your losing by playing a tagger in Dawson

lol, I think we're a bad example at NDT ;) #DawsonvsRuttenforD4
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on June 17, 2014, 05:46:37 PM
flower me scooter is out for the rest of the year

flowering flowered
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 17, 2014, 05:48:44 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 17, 2014, 05:46:37 PM
flower me scooter is out for the rest of the year

flowering flowered

too be fair I reckon you already were.....
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on June 17, 2014, 05:49:27 PM
We've lost Elliott Yeo as well now for 7 weeks which is just a pain :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on June 17, 2014, 05:52:27 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 17, 2014, 05:48:44 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 17, 2014, 05:46:37 PM
flower me scooter is out for the rest of the year

flowering flowered

too be fair I reckon you already were.....

We just can't get our best XV on the park so annoying
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: AaronKirk on June 17, 2014, 06:12:00 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 17, 2014, 05:52:27 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 17, 2014, 05:48:44 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 17, 2014, 05:46:37 PM
flower me scooter is out for the rest of the year

flowering flowered

too be fair I reckon you already were.....

We just can't get our best XV on the park so annoying

Christensen back this week. We will probably be resting him though.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on June 17, 2014, 08:17:03 PM
Crouch..... 57 disposals in 2 SANFL matches...

Gets suspended >:(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 18, 2014, 07:14:32 AM

Most votes all, all unanimous in having RaisyDaisy as new coach!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 18, 2014, 09:22:13 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 18, 2014, 07:14:32 AM

Most votes all, all unanimous in having RaisyDaisy as new coach!

Thanks guys :D

I have informed AK that I wont be in a position to dedicate much time for the rest of June, but from July onwards I will be right on board!

Thanks again for the offer AK, and thanks to those that approved (Not Holz and HP lol  :P)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on June 18, 2014, 03:53:00 PM
Last time I vote in your favour :(.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 18, 2014, 03:56:29 PM
Welcome to the family RD! :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 18, 2014, 05:57:55 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on June 18, 2014, 03:53:00 PM
Last time I vote in your favour :(.

My favour?

Quote from: Hellopplz on June 13, 2014, 06:16:51 PM
Congratz on the win AK47! Should be interesting seeing a new face in Worlds :D.

And just to be different, I'll vote against you guys being co-coaches, cause it won't matter as should pass with others >:D :P.

;D ;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on June 18, 2014, 06:28:00 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 18, 2014, 05:57:55 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on June 18, 2014, 03:53:00 PM
Last time I vote in your favour :(.

My favour?

Quote from: Hellopplz on June 13, 2014, 06:16:51 PM
Congratz on the win AK47! Should be interesting seeing a new face in Worlds :D.

And just to be different, I'll vote against you guys being co-coaches, cause it won't matter as should pass with others >:D :P.

;D ;D
Quote from: ossie85 on June 18, 2014, 07:14:32 AM

Most votes all, all unanimous in having RaisyDaisy as new coach!
That means everyone said yes, therefore HP also said yes ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on June 18, 2014, 08:30:23 PM
I'm a nice guy, I tend to do the right thing even if I say different here :P.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 18, 2014, 08:45:41 PM
Quote from: Honey Badger on June 18, 2014, 06:28:00 PM
That means everyone said yes, therefore HP also said yes ;)

I know what unanimous means :P But he did say it earlier ;)

And yes HP you are, although you do have a weird obsession with wanting to Stab someone lol
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on June 18, 2014, 08:55:27 PM
He's onto to me.... Better stab him

And it's either stab or set on fire :P. Maybe both >:D.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: AaronKirk on June 18, 2014, 11:16:07 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 18, 2014, 09:22:13 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 18, 2014, 07:14:32 AM

Most votes all, all unanimous in having RaisyDaisy as new coach!

Thanks guys :D

I have informed AK that I wont be in a position to dedicate much time for the rest of June, but from July onwards I will be right on board!

Thanks again for the offer AK, and thanks to those that approved (Not Holz and HP lol  :P)

Thanks guys and now RD and myself can start to plan our moves to make the Revs the best team we can be.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on June 23, 2014, 05:30:15 PM
(http://www.nmfc.com.au/AFL%20Tenant/NorthMelbourne/Files/GreenwoodInfo.jpg)

Along with pedersen two of the most improved players in the league..shame the rest of the squad has taken a backwards step :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2014, 08:30:01 PM
hey Ossie what do you think about this idea for next year

along with flooding and attacking strategy

have 'go small' strategy

instead of naming a ruck you name a third utility

to be used 3 times a season like the others

obviously i'm biased due to Tokyo's ruck stocks but i think this will be handy for everyone and will be used more then the other strategy  options
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 06, 2014, 08:31:01 PM
Or you just trade for a decent ruckman?  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2014, 08:31:40 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 06, 2014, 08:31:01 PM
Or you just trade for a decent ruckman?  :P

like i didn't flowering try? ffs
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 06, 2014, 08:32:54 PM

Go small was voted down.... Probably rightly so
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 06, 2014, 08:33:14 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2014, 08:31:40 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 06, 2014, 08:31:01 PM
Or you just trade for a decent ruckman?  :P

like i didn't flowering try? ffs
Another off-season, maybe different luck? Nothing like trying.  :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2014, 08:34:13 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 06, 2014, 08:32:54 PM

Go small was voted down.... Probably rightly so

oh forgot we voted for that already
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on July 06, 2014, 08:34:50 PM
I don't think I've ever seen an AFL team name a team without a ruckman.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2014, 08:35:20 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 06, 2014, 08:33:14 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2014, 08:31:40 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 06, 2014, 08:31:01 PM
Or you just trade for a decent ruckman?  :P

like i didn't flowering try? ffs
Another off-season, maybe different luck? Nothing like trying.  :)

doubt it, nobody wants to give up a premo ruck
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on July 06, 2014, 08:39:52 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2014, 08:35:20 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 06, 2014, 08:33:14 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2014, 08:31:40 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 06, 2014, 08:31:01 PM
Or you just trade for a decent ruckman?  :P

like i didn't flowering try? ffs
Another off-season, maybe different luck? Nothing like trying.  :)
doubt it, nobody wants to give up a premo ruck

Hampson for your top pick thanks
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2014, 08:40:25 PM
Quote from: elephants on July 06, 2014, 08:39:52 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2014, 08:35:20 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 06, 2014, 08:33:14 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2014, 08:31:40 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 06, 2014, 08:31:01 PM
Or you just trade for a decent ruckman?  :P

like i didn't flowering try? ffs
Another off-season, maybe different luck? Nothing like trying.  :)
doubt it, nobody wants to give up a premo ruck

Hampson for your top pick thanks

buy low sell high?  :-X
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 06, 2014, 08:40:46 PM
Have never, ever had a ruck problem.

Adopt the strat  8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on July 06, 2014, 08:41:49 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 06, 2014, 08:40:46 PM
Have never, ever had a ruck problem.

Adopt the strat  8)
Me neither :D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 06, 2014, 08:43:21 PM
Quote from: Honey Badger on July 06, 2014, 08:41:49 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 06, 2014, 08:40:46 PM
Have never, ever had a ruck problem.

Adopt the strat  8)
Me neither :D

all you need is goldy and you are set.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on July 06, 2014, 08:44:30 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2014, 08:40:25 PM
Quote from: elephants on July 06, 2014, 08:39:52 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2014, 08:35:20 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 06, 2014, 08:33:14 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2014, 08:31:40 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 06, 2014, 08:31:01 PM
Or you just trade for a decent ruckman?  :P

like i didn't flowering try? ffs
Another off-season, maybe different luck? Nothing like trying.  :)
doubt it, nobody wants to give up a premo ruck

Hampson for your top pick thanks

buy low sell high?  :-X

lol, Ibbo was a gun when I traded him to you. You broke him!

Quote from: Honey Badger on July 06, 2014, 08:41:49 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 06, 2014, 08:40:46 PM
Have never, ever had a ruck problem.

Adopt the strat  8)
Me neither :D

Fckn heroes the pair of ya.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on July 06, 2014, 08:45:55 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2014, 08:31:40 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 06, 2014, 08:31:01 PM
Or you just trade for a decent ruckman?  :P
like i didn't flowering try? ffs
PNL have tried before, but we haven't wanted to trade anybody as Rucks are overpriced in this form :(. Given if you try for a 2nd or 3rd ruck on a team can come quite a bit cheaper if they are fringe playing for the Senior team, so can try for a bargain there if you choose the right guy!

Quote from: Master Q on July 06, 2014, 08:34:50 PM
I don't think I've ever seen an AFL team name a team without a ruckman.
Essendon kinda have before in Ryder (when he was thrown into the Ruck after playing Back so many seasons) and then did again with Carlisle this year, so it has been done :P. Still talls, but weren't considered as legit ruckman at the time (Carlisle never will be :P ).
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2014, 08:46:58 PM
Ross Lyon broke Ibbo not us :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 06, 2014, 08:47:02 PM
Without looking and off memory, aren't Pacific the ruck hoarders?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 06, 2014, 08:48:26 PM
Ah no, New York are
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 06, 2014, 08:48:52 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 06, 2014, 08:47:02 PM
Without looking and off memory, aren't Pacific the ruck hoarders?
Yep, and yourself, and CF.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on July 06, 2014, 08:50:09 PM
kb you never tried very hard for Dean Cox, Robert Warnock or Jarrad Redden. You should have tried harder :-X
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 06, 2014, 08:50:22 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 06, 2014, 08:48:52 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 06, 2014, 08:47:02 PM
Without looking and off memory, aren't Pacific the ruck hoarders?
Yep, and yourself, and CF.  :P

Hey hey hey, I only have 4  ;)

And none of them are really that good! haha
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on July 06, 2014, 08:51:07 PM
Quote from: Nails on July 06, 2014, 08:50:09 PM
kb you never tried very hard for Dean Cox, Robert Warnock or Jarrad Redden. You should have tried harder :-X
PNL: You wanted Matthew Pavlich for Redden saying Redden was better than Lobbe :P.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2014, 08:51:24 PM
Quote from: Nails on July 06, 2014, 08:50:09 PM
kb you never tried very hard for Dean Cox, Robert Warnock or Jarrad Redden. You should have tried harder :-X

you never reply to your messages so no point
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 06, 2014, 08:51:48 PM
We've got 4.

One does get senior games, one stopped getting senior games, one is gonna lose DPP and the other can't play a full season without injuries.

Don't come to us!

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on July 06, 2014, 08:58:25 PM
Royals have 5 rucks on their books and yet still have played only 4 games where a ruck was fielded. (Bellchambers, Hudson, Gorringe. Thurlow and Archie Smith and only been able to field Bellchambers for 4 games and others not getting games despite their teams issues.)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2014, 09:00:42 PM
who has S Martin ? we're prob going to target him since we have West
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on July 06, 2014, 09:01:01 PM
We've got Krooz, Grundy, Sam Naismith and big bad bustling Rory Lobb
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on July 06, 2014, 09:03:59 PM
Quote from: Toga on July 06, 2014, 09:01:01 PM
We've got Krooz, Grundy, Sam Naismith and big bad bustling Rory Lobb
Should trade us Kroooooz
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on July 06, 2014, 09:13:06 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2014, 09:00:42 PM
who has S Martin ? we're prob going to target him since we have West

That would be us (Cape Town)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2014, 09:15:51 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on July 06, 2014, 09:13:06 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2014, 09:00:42 PM
who has S Martin ? we're prob going to target him since we have West

That would be us (Cape Town)

what do you want for him?  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on July 06, 2014, 09:21:38 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on July 06, 2014, 09:03:59 PM
Quote from: Toga on July 06, 2014, 09:01:01 PM
We've got Krooz, Grundy, Sam Naismith and big bad bustling Rory Lobb
Should trade us Kroooooz

Could do :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on July 06, 2014, 09:30:41 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2014, 09:15:51 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on July 06, 2014, 09:13:06 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2014, 09:00:42 PM
who has S Martin ? we're prob going to target him since we have West

That would be us (Cape Town)

what do you want for him?  :P
The Shoe + first rounder
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2014, 09:31:58 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on July 06, 2014, 09:30:41 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2014, 09:15:51 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on July 06, 2014, 09:13:06 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2014, 09:00:42 PM
who has S Martin ? we're prob going to target him since we have West

That would be us (Cape Town)

what do you want for him?  :P
The Shoe + first rounder

Shuey + like pick 5?  :o
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on July 06, 2014, 09:34:34 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2014, 09:31:58 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on July 06, 2014, 09:30:41 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2014, 09:15:51 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on July 06, 2014, 09:13:06 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2014, 09:00:42 PM
who has S Martin ? we're prob going to target him since we have West

That would be us (Cape Town)

what do you want for him?  :P
The Shoe + first rounder

Shuey + like pick 5?  :o
:P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on July 06, 2014, 09:34:43 PM
Whoever has Ablett should try get Rocky, Pendles, Beams and Swan as well because they might be able to get Krooz off us.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2014, 09:36:22 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on July 06, 2014, 09:34:34 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2014, 09:31:58 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on July 06, 2014, 09:30:41 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2014, 09:15:51 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on July 06, 2014, 09:13:06 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2014, 09:00:42 PM
who has S Martin ? we're prob going to target him since we have West

That would be us (Cape Town)

what do you want for him?  :P
The Shoe + first rounder

Shuey + like pick 5?  :o
:P

i might consider giving pick 5 or Shuey but not both ???
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 06, 2014, 09:36:50 PM
Quote from: Master Q on July 06, 2014, 09:34:43 PM
Whoever has Ablett should try get Rocky, Pendles, Beams and Swan as well because they might be able to get Krooz off us.
Don't give CF ideas.  ::)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on July 06, 2014, 09:40:41 PM
Stefan Martin won't even be getting a game in 2 weeks.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 06, 2014, 09:41:38 PM
Quote from: Nails on July 06, 2014, 09:40:41 PM
Stefan Martin won't even be getting a game in 2 weeks.

disagree but he wont be scoring anywhere near 100+ in 2 weeks.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2014, 09:42:52 PM
Quote from: Nails on July 06, 2014, 09:40:41 PM
Stefan Martin won't even be getting a game in 2 weeks.

yes he will, ask Ringo

they will ease Luey back in playing forward and probably leave him there next year since they need a forward and S Martin doing so well as a ruckmen it makes sense
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on July 06, 2014, 09:43:17 PM
You really want the biggest downhill skier in the league Chumpy? :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 06, 2014, 09:46:21 PM
I think speak on behalf of a number of teams when I say:

PNL, please share your forwards.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2014, 09:47:22 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 06, 2014, 09:46:21 PM
I think speak on behalf of a number of teams when I say:

PNL, please share your forwards.

we have a few good ones also willing to trade for a ruck ;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on July 06, 2014, 09:48:45 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2014, 09:36:22 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on July 06, 2014, 09:34:34 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2014, 09:31:58 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on July 06, 2014, 09:30:41 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2014, 09:15:51 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on July 06, 2014, 09:13:06 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2014, 09:00:42 PM
who has S Martin ? we're prob going to target him since we have West

That would be us (Cape Town)

what do you want for him?  :P
The Shoe + first rounder

Shuey + like pick 5?  :o
:P

i might consider giving pick 5 or Shuey but not both ???
Shuey and the Fas?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on July 06, 2014, 09:50:05 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on July 06, 2014, 09:48:45 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2014, 09:36:22 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on July 06, 2014, 09:34:34 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2014, 09:31:58 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on July 06, 2014, 09:30:41 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2014, 09:15:51 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on July 06, 2014, 09:13:06 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2014, 09:00:42 PM
who has S Martin ? we're prob going to target him since we have West

That would be us (Cape Town)

what do you want for him?  :P
The Shoe + first rounder

Shuey + like pick 5?  :o
:P

i might consider giving pick 5 or Shuey but not both ???
Shuey and the Fas?

Feel I should report this. Being a witness to a robbery and not doing anything about it doesn't sit too well with me :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on July 06, 2014, 09:52:12 PM
Quote from: elephants on July 06, 2014, 09:50:05 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on July 06, 2014, 09:48:45 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2014, 09:36:22 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on July 06, 2014, 09:34:34 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2014, 09:31:58 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on July 06, 2014, 09:30:41 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2014, 09:15:51 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on July 06, 2014, 09:13:06 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2014, 09:00:42 PM
who has S Martin ? we're prob going to target him since we have West

That would be us (Cape Town)

what do you want for him?  :P
The Shoe + first rounder

Shuey + like pick 5?  :o
:P

i might consider giving pick 5 or Shuey but not both ???
Shuey and the Fas?

Feel I should report this. Being a witness to a robbery and not doing anything about it doesn't sit too well with me :P
You're right; Shuey is a downhill skier. Not much chop :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on July 06, 2014, 09:53:43 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on July 06, 2014, 09:52:12 PM
Quote from: elephants on July 06, 2014, 09:50:05 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on July 06, 2014, 09:48:45 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2014, 09:36:22 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on July 06, 2014, 09:34:34 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2014, 09:31:58 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on July 06, 2014, 09:30:41 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2014, 09:15:51 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on July 06, 2014, 09:13:06 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2014, 09:00:42 PM
who has S Martin ? we're prob going to target him since we have West

That would be us (Cape Town)

what do you want for him?  :P
The Shoe + first rounder

Shuey + like pick 5?  :o
:P

i might consider giving pick 5 or Shuey but not both ???
Shuey and the Fas?

Feel I should report this. Being a witness to a robbery and not doing anything about it doesn't sit too well with me :P
You're right; Shuey is a downhill skier. Not much chop :P

Shuey is shockin' (would fit in at NDT actually) but Stef is a #2 ruckmen :p
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 06, 2014, 09:53:52 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2014, 09:47:22 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 06, 2014, 09:46:21 PM
I think speak on behalf of a number of teams when I say:

PNL, please share your forwards.

we have a few good ones also willing to trade for a ruck ;D
Well, you're not getting Mummy.  :P

Not sure whether you want Orren Stephenson... if he even stays on Richmond's list.  :o

Rowe's gonna lose DPP.  :(

I'd like to keep Giles as back-up for Mummy, even if he's likely to be traded at EOS by the Giants.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on July 06, 2014, 10:23:58 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 06, 2014, 09:46:21 PM
I think speak on behalf of a number of teams when I say:

PNL, please share your forwards.
We also have plenty of pretty solid 75+ backs :P. Much depth, so hopefully we can trade a few guys to land a star or two which we need :D.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 06, 2014, 10:30:26 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on July 06, 2014, 10:23:58 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 06, 2014, 09:46:21 PM
I think speak on behalf of a number of teams when I say:

PNL, please share your forwards.
We also have plenty of pretty solid 75+ backs :P. Much depth, so hopefully we can trade a few guys to land a star or two which we need :D.

gray another nice 110+ score.

just saying
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 06, 2014, 10:40:55 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 06, 2014, 10:30:26 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on July 06, 2014, 10:23:58 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 06, 2014, 09:46:21 PM
I think speak on behalf of a number of teams when I say:

PNL, please share your forwards.
We also have plenty of pretty solid 75+ backs :P. Much depth, so hopefully we can trade a few guys to land a star or two which we need :D.

gray another nice 110+ score.

just saying
Careful now, you don't wanna be docked premiership points for gloating.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 06, 2014, 10:53:06 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 06, 2014, 10:40:55 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 06, 2014, 10:30:26 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on July 06, 2014, 10:23:58 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 06, 2014, 09:46:21 PM
I think speak on behalf of a number of teams when I say:

PNL, please share your forwards.
We also have plenty of pretty solid 75+ backs :P. Much depth, so hopefully we can trade a few guys to land a star or two which we need :D.

gray another nice 110+ score.

just saying
Careful now, you don't wanna be docked premiership points for gloating.  :P

I hope thats not a rule or i could be getting the wodden spoon. In postive news number 1 draft pick would be nice.

people saying they want forwards, I have gray sitting there on the trade table. You pay for him you get him.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on July 06, 2014, 11:07:54 PM
How long until Gray's dodgy knee forces him back into the small forward role...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on July 06, 2014, 11:09:24 PM
Or he loses forward status :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on July 06, 2014, 11:10:19 PM
Or both!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 06, 2014, 11:12:41 PM
Quote from: elephants on July 06, 2014, 11:10:19 PM
Or both!

maybee in 5-6 years time.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on July 06, 2014, 11:14:24 PM
Orrrrrrrrrrrr in 3 months time ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on July 06, 2014, 11:28:35 PM
Well for those after rucks, I've got a pretty solid backup I could trade. Young Luke Lowden averages 82 a game, so pretty damn good for a young ruck. But be warned I like him, so may take a bit to get him...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 07, 2014, 10:17:26 AM
Damn. Wish I could trade a ruck a 2, they have waaay too much currency in Worlds  :P

Who knows? The Duff and Zorks aren't exactly off the table...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on July 07, 2014, 02:19:38 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 06, 2014, 09:46:21 PM
I think speak on behalf of a number of teams when I say:

PNL, please share your forwards.

We have all the good ones actually. John Butcher, Jared Petrenko and Scott Gumbleton package is available to the highest bidder
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on July 07, 2014, 03:10:11 PM
Lets end the season now and just have an extended trade period ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 07, 2014, 03:37:03 PM

How's this for a Trade idea?

"Blind Date Trading"

You submit a player in the pool (anonymously by PM to me), and request:

- A position
- Age range
- Average

And see if you get any matches, and if you do the trade goes through to vote automatically.

For example:

PNL Reindeers deposit Jonathan Patton into the pool (again nobody knows they have) and say they want:
- A defender, averaging 85, 25 or under.


Might not work at all, but could be interesting.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 07, 2014, 03:47:08 PM
a possible flaw in this is last year i would have put in Cam Delaney

a 90 average defender who is 22 years old.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 07, 2014, 03:51:15 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 07, 2014, 03:47:08 PM
a possible flaw in this is last year i would have put in Cam Delaney

a 90 average defender who is 22 years old.

True, could add a 'games played in 2014' range also.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 07, 2014, 04:00:31 PM
Quote from: Toga on July 07, 2014, 02:19:38 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 06, 2014, 09:46:21 PM
I think speak on behalf of a number of teams when I say:

PNL, please share your forwards.

We have all the good ones actually. John Butcher, Jared Petrenko and Scott Gumbleton package is available to the highest bidder
You're welcome for the first two.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Boomz on July 08, 2014, 01:39:42 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 07, 2014, 03:51:15 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 07, 2014, 03:47:08 PM
a possible flaw in this is last year i would have put in Cam Delaney

a 90 average defender who is 22 years old.

True, could add a 'games played in 2014' range also.

With a games played in 2014 range added then I'd be keen for it.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on July 08, 2014, 02:37:37 PM
Quote from: Toga on July 07, 2014, 02:19:38 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 06, 2014, 09:46:21 PM
I think speak on behalf of a number of teams when I say:

PNL, please share your forwards.
We have all the good ones actually. John Butcher, Jared Petrenko and Scott Gumbleton package is available to the highest bidder
You'd have to pay me to take those guys off your hands :P.

That's an interesting concept indeed to try out! Could certainly trial it.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: MajorLazer on July 08, 2014, 05:10:40 PM
I like the idea. Takes a little bias out of the equation.

Although I'm still gonna be really dodgy.  8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on July 08, 2014, 05:20:40 PM
Might make players like Swan impossible to trade. People using that fancy method will end up having used all their allocated trades then no way to get rid of my spuds :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 08, 2014, 05:25:46 PM
Quote from: Nails on July 08, 2014, 05:20:40 PM
Might make players like Swan impossible to trade. People using that fancy method will end up having used all their allocated trades then no way to get rid of my spuds :(

We don't have allocated trades in the first period at least
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on July 08, 2014, 05:27:24 PM
Quote from: Nails on July 08, 2014, 05:20:40 PM
Might make players like Swan impossible to trade. People using that fancy method will end up having used all their allocated trades then no way to get rid of my spuds :(

Ooo, spuds? PM me, I'm running a potato farm over at NDT!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 08, 2014, 06:04:12 PM
Quote from: MajorLazer on July 08, 2014, 05:10:40 PM
I like the idea. Takes a little bias out of the equation.

Although I'm still gonna be really dodgy.  8)
Mad consultation about our imminent shifty tactics.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on July 08, 2014, 06:14:03 PM
Here's an idea to make Wellington a top 16 contender: They get 5 captains.  ;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 08, 2014, 06:19:24 PM
Quote from: Nails on July 08, 2014, 06:14:03 PM
Here's an idea to make Wellington a top 16 contender: They get 5 captains.  ;D
Are you willing to stand by this idea when they beat you?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on July 08, 2014, 06:19:48 PM
Quote from: Nails on July 08, 2014, 06:14:03 PM
Here's an idea to make Wellington a top 16 contender: They get 5 captains.  ;D

Their list is better than ours, we should get 14 captains + Zac Dawson gets tripled.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on July 08, 2014, 06:29:43 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 08, 2014, 06:19:24 PM
Quote from: Nails on July 08, 2014, 06:14:03 PM
Here's an idea to make Wellington a top 16 contender: They get 5 captains.  ;D
Are you willing to stand by this idea when they beat you?

They get 100 x2, 90 x 2 then they stuck with 30x2x3. Not a big issue.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: MajorLazer on July 08, 2014, 06:59:35 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 08, 2014, 06:04:12 PM
Quote from: MajorLazer on July 08, 2014, 05:10:40 PM
I like the idea. Takes a little bias out of the equation.

Although I'm still gonna be really dodgy.  8)
Mad consultation about our imminent shifty tactics.  :P
Nah that's purely me. :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 09, 2014, 01:13:30 PM
Sup guys?

Currently we have a squad of 45 (41 senior, 4 rookie). Due to numbers,  reckon we reduce seniors to 40
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on July 09, 2014, 01:15:58 PM
Doesn't sound too bad to me really, although cutting down my list may be hard as grown attached :(.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on July 09, 2014, 01:18:55 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 09, 2014, 01:13:30 PM
Sup guys?

Currently we have a squad of 45 (41 senior, 4 rookie). Due to numbers,  reckon we reduce seniors to 40

I think we almost ran out of players to draft last time? I think this might be a decent idea.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on July 09, 2014, 01:20:35 PM
yeh and smaller lists should help with equality as well
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 09, 2014, 01:26:06 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 09, 2014, 01:20:35 PM
yeh and smaller lists should help with equality as well

Not sure I agree, can only talk for dublins case but I have experience on both sides.

When my list was bad I had a lot of speculative young guys on the bench, some of those punts turned out like black atley hill Anderson etc.. and I used them to improve my list and kept me comperetive. Now I'm up the top I have guys who play every week so don't need these fringe guys to name a squad. Cutting players now would be easy, but when I was bad I could have cut guys like black which would have really hurt my development.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on July 09, 2014, 01:29:00 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 09, 2014, 01:26:06 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 09, 2014, 01:20:35 PM
yeh and smaller lists should help with equality as well

Not sure I agree, can only talk for dublins case but I have experience on both sides.

When my list was bad I had a lot of speculative young guys on the bench, some of those punts turned out like black atley hill Anderson etc.. and I used them to improve my list and kept me comperetive. Now I'm up the top I have guys who play every week so don't need these fringe guys to name a squad. Cutting players now would be easy, but when I was bad I could have cut guys like black which would have really hurt my development.
Yeh but those with strong depth have to cut "better" players from their list which weaker clubs can pick up. Also have less players to use to acquire premo's through trades and take advantage of weaker teams. Stronger teams will also take less picks in the national draft, meaning more quality kids for weaker teams to pick up. Can work both ways though
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on July 09, 2014, 02:05:38 PM
Or strong clubs can easily pick up these better mature players during the draft while the weaker teams go for youngsters so may end up not doing much to close the gap.

What could work is if teams trade their depth to the lower teams to help them out, what I am probably going to do with 1-3 teams.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 09, 2014, 02:15:59 PM
I wonder if instead of a points cap we have a list size


.... So The Premiers have a list of 35 and the Spooners 52...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 09, 2014, 02:30:49 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 09, 2014, 02:15:59 PM
I wonder if instead of a points cap we have a list size


.... So The Premiers have a list of 35 and the Spooners 52...

i prefer that, i don't like the points cap
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on July 09, 2014, 02:35:27 PM
Nah points cap is good!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on July 09, 2014, 02:36:41 PM
Haha when we finally look to get over the points cap!

I reckon a max cap is ok, but the min cap restricted our trading a lot last season.

Don't mind the list size changes either actually...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on July 09, 2014, 02:37:31 PM
Yeh gotta keep the points cap, its probably the most effective way. Just might need a few alterations like Ele said
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 09, 2014, 02:37:51 PM
We need the Min cap, cos of crazy trading that crippled teams to begin with
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 09, 2014, 02:43:34 PM
yeah but it's pretty annoying when most of your team is young besides a couple of old guys like Judd and S Mitchell so it makes sense to trade them for youth but we couldn't do deals due to points cap and more annoying is ours was mainly so low due to injuries

so we couldn't do trades that would benefit the team long term

that's why i don't like it
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on July 09, 2014, 02:43:41 PM
I actually don't mind that idea of weaker teams having higher list numbers than the top sides - as Holz said we have a bunch of younger guys that are kind of speculative at the moment but hoping they turn into good players, and it would mean getting rid of some of these guys (although we do have a lot of spuds as well) :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on July 09, 2014, 03:15:06 PM
The points cap is a lie.

Buenos Aires had like 6th lowest cap this year despite being prelim finalists :-X

Imo 2015 - Minimum: 28,000, Maximum: 29,000. There's your equality.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on July 09, 2014, 03:39:44 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 09, 2014, 02:37:51 PM
We need the Min cap, cos of crazy trading that crippled teams to begin with

When I took over, NDT had (have) the worst list in the league. We needed to rebuild and trade players of value out for kids. That was made impossible as we had to get over the cap by brining in more hacks like Andrew Raines. It was really just an added obstacle for us. Much better for the comp if weak teams start loading up on kids then getting stuck with spuds just because they have more points..
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on July 09, 2014, 03:47:59 PM
Quote from: elephants on July 09, 2014, 03:39:44 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 09, 2014, 02:37:51 PM
We need the Min cap, cos of crazy trading that crippled teams to begin with

When I took over, NDT had (have) the worst list in the league. We needed to rebuild and trade players of value out for kids. That was made impossible as we had to get over the cap by brining in more hacks like Andrew Raines. It was really just an added obstacle for us. Much better for the comp if weak teams start loading up on kids then getting stuck with spuds just because they have more points..
Yep, sorta the same with Thunder. We proposed some trades where we "won" but we lost points...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on July 09, 2014, 03:50:17 PM
Whats the scenario where having a max cap and but no min cap doesn't work?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on July 09, 2014, 03:51:42 PM
Keep both caps, its only the teams that get stung by the caps that arent fans :P

With List sizes, give teams finish 5-12 1 extra rookie and 13-18 2 extra rookies
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on July 09, 2014, 03:52:39 PM
At first the pumas were afraid, they were petrified
Kept thinking they could never live without ablett, captain of their side
CF spent so many rounds
Thinking how Ablett's injury did them wrong
Pumas grew strong
And they learned how to get along

Now ablett won't be back
from Melbourne Doc's Place
They just walked in to find Ablett with those post-surgery stitches and pain upon his face.
They should have given him the week off
They should have given him annual leave
If they knew for just one second that it'd lead to season ending injury!

Go on now, recover some more
Just rest in bed
We don't need you this season anymore
Weren't you the one who tried to win the game off your boot
Without you we won't crumble
Did you think we'd not even rely on our vice?

Oh no not pumas, they will survive
As long as they have vice captain Jacobs
Their grand finals hopes will stay alive
They've got all the finals to live
Free tickets to player's wives to give
Pumas will survive! yay, yay!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 09, 2014, 04:12:53 PM

@New Dehli, Beijing...

.... you guys are already loaded up with kids and aren't competitive. Trading away your experienced players for more kid would make you less competitive IMO
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on July 09, 2014, 04:17:22 PM
But we will only ever be mid table if we only have half a team of kids and half a team of prems... That's not constructive for the comp moving forward..

@JB, sure. But does that make it good?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 09, 2014, 04:18:41 PM
So, what ground is toughest to win at?

(min 10 home games)

Row Labels   Team   W   L   Total   %W
Fireball Stadium   Mexico City   19   2   21   90.48
Estádio do Pumas   Sao Paulo   17   6   23   73.91
Rogers Centre   Toronto   17   6   23   73.91
Borg El Arab Stadium   Cairo   17   7   24   70.83
Estadio de River   Buenos Aires   18   8   26   69.23
Crooke Park   Dublin   15   7   22   68.18
Luzhniki Stadium   Moscow   15   8   23   65.22
London Olympic Stadium   London   9   5   14   64.29
Newlands Cricket Ground   Cape Town   15   9   24   62.50
MetLife Stadium   New York   9   12   21   42.86
Berlin Olympic Stadium   Berlin   9   14   23   39.13
The Basin Reserve   Wellington   9   14   23   39.13
Tata Stadium   New Delhi   4   7   11   36.36
Seoul World Cup Stadium   Seoul   8   14   22   36.36
Tokyo Olympic Stadium   Tokyo   7   16   23   30.43
Beijing Olympic Park   Beijing   7   17   24   29.17


So Mexico City, Sao Paulo no real surprise there. Toronto's home record is imposing though, while Buenos Aires - considering its overall record - is probably under par!

London's Olympic Stadium is tough, considering the side has never won more than 50% of its games, a 65.22% record at home is very good. While Berlin and Seoul have disappointing records...

Overall, the home team wins 53.92% of the time, which is the kind of percentage you like to see.


Other Home grounds:


Row Labels   Team   W   L   Total   %W
Old Trafford   London   1   0   1   100.00
Guadalajara   Mexico City   5   0   5   100.00
Estadio Centenario, Montevideo, Uruguay      Sao Paulo   1   0   1   100.00
Estadio Nacional, Lima, Peru   Sao Paulo   1   0   1   100.00
Stade de France   PNL   6   5   8   75.00
Stade de Gerland   PNL   4   2   6   66.67
Linkbelt Oval   Pacific   3   2   5   60.00
Stamford Bridge   London   1   1   2   50.00
Tuanaimato International Stadium   Pacific   3   3   6   50.00
Wembley   London   1   2   3   33.33
Wipro Stadium   New Delhi   2   4   6   33.33
Stade du Ray   PNL   2   4   6   33.33
Oakley Arena   Pacific   1   4   5   20.00
Nepal   New Delhi   1   5   6   16.67
Emierites   London   0   1   1   0.00
Lords   London   0   1   1   0.00
Michigan Stadium   New York   0   2   2   0.00
BSP Stadium   Pacific   0   6   6   0.00


Stade de France works well for PNL, while Pacific have yet to win at BSP Stadium
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on July 09, 2014, 04:22:55 PM
Yeh agree Oss, the only issues we had with it last year was we had a list that was below the cap. In order to get back above the cap we have to trade out quality kids for less quality (but more experienced) players. Stonger teams are less likely to go down that path because they are in a window of chance to challenge, and poor teams are already under the cap also, or close to it. We couldn't do 2 for 1 deals because we were already so low on points. So we had to trade in duds like Raines to get us above the cap. It just meant we couldn't trade for a quality players (like a decent ruckman). We should be fine this year now some of the kids have played but just this its something that should be looked into.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 09, 2014, 04:36:53 PM
Dublin hasnt lost at home since round 5 2013 against London

have taken out since than

Pacific Islanders
Tokyo Samurai
Seoul Magpies
Moscow Spetsnaz
PNL Reindeers
Sao Paulo Pumas
Toronto Wolves
Wellington Warriors
Cape Town Cobras
Toronto Wolves
Moscow Spetsnaz
Buenos Aires Armadillos
Beijing Thunder

to notch up 13 straight at home, very impressive considering i started 2-7 at home.

got the suns this week so will be a tough ask going for number 14 without Rocky.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on July 09, 2014, 05:04:55 PM
FunFact: An Ele/Rico coached side has NEVER lost at Dublin's home ground.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 09, 2014, 05:14:38 PM
Everyone has about 3 spuds on their list that aren't showing anything. Getting rid of one of them shouldn't be a drama.


I'm for both the min and max cap. Was over the max last year, and I didn't even have to try to get under it. Delistings/retirements did that for me.

It also looks like I might even go under the min this year, just through an insane amount of injuries. And I don't imagine it will effect my trading, as I always off-load draft picks for instant competitiveness, and use my later ones for recycled players. Which is how I jumped from 16th to 4th in one year; increasing depth by getting players whom play in their AFL sides' best 22. Which hence lead to more instant competitiveness.

The minimum cap enforces this healthy tactic, so I will always support it.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 09, 2014, 05:15:49 PM
Awesome stats btw oz
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on July 09, 2014, 06:36:04 PM
Quote from: Nails on July 09, 2014, 03:52:39 PM
At first the pumas were afraid, they were petrified
Kept thinking they could never live without ablett, captain of their side
CF spent so many rounds
Thinking how Ablett's injury did them wrong
Pumas grew strong
And they learned how to get along

Now ablett won't be back
from Melbourne Doc's Place
They just walked in to find Ablett with those post-surgery stitches and pain upon his face.
They should have given him the week off
They should have given him annual leave
If they knew for just one second that it'd lead to season ending injury!

Go on now, recover some more
Just rest in bed
We don't need you this season anymore
Weren't you the one who tried to win the game off your boot
Without you we won't crumble
Did you think we'd not even rely on our vice?

Oh no not pumas, they will survive
As long as they have vice captain Jacobs
Their grand finals hopes will stay alive
They've got all the finals to live
Free tickets to player's wives to give
Pumas will survive! yay, yay!
Brilliant nails! But considering what you had said in my team thread I didn't expect the song to say we would survive without him!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 09, 2014, 07:08:44 PM
Clever read Nails!

5th time the charm for Rhythm cup?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 09, 2014, 07:17:44 PM
Wouldn't mind reducing the list size, few guys I'd be happy to cut.

I like the points cap, it's good for the comp.

Nails' parody was great as always, top notch stuff.

And those stats were brilliant, nice work Oss.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 09, 2014, 07:20:57 PM
is the points cap even achieving anything? i don't see WXV any more equal then any other XV comp
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 09, 2014, 07:26:32 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 09, 2014, 07:20:57 PM
i don't see WXV any more equal then any other XV comp
This is clearly the statement of a man who isn't involved in Euros.  :P

Holz's Euro team is even better than his Dublin team atm, he has the luxury of benching guys like Douglas and Petrie iirc. On the other end of things, the Dinos (the team I co-coach) struggles to put together forward and back lines... oh and did I mention the fact that the rucks are Vardy, Daw and Currie?

The gap between the top team here and the bottom team is decent, but in Euros it's much worse imo.  :)

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 09, 2014, 07:51:39 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 09, 2014, 07:20:57 PM
is the points cap even achieving anything? i don't see WXV any more equal then any other XV comp

was trading that made the comp unequal and poor coaching
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: AaronKirk on July 09, 2014, 08:03:25 PM
Awesome stats as always Oss

Don't mind the idea of reducing lists to 40, will increase the draft pool and help equalise the comp to a point.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on July 09, 2014, 08:24:04 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 09, 2014, 07:20:57 PM
is the points cap even achieving anything? i don't see WXV any more equal then any other XV comp
hasn't been around long enough to have a big effect but it will work.

My only question is whether the minimum cap is needed.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 09, 2014, 08:43:25 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 09, 2014, 07:26:32 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 09, 2014, 07:20:57 PM
i don't see WXV any more equal then any other XV comp
This is clearly the statement of a man who isn't involved in Euros.  :P

Holz's Euro team is even better than his Dublin team atm, he has the luxury of benching guys like Douglas and Petrie iirc. On the other end of things, the Dinos (the team I co-coach) struggles to put together forward and back lines... oh and did I mention the fact that the rucks are Vardy, Daw and Currie?

The gap between the top team here and the bottom team is decent, but in Euros it's much worse imo.  :)

Dublin has a much better list than Serbia. Serbia is old, if I traded my young Dublin stars fir older players I could be much more dominant.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on July 09, 2014, 09:34:06 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 09, 2014, 07:51:39 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 09, 2014, 07:20:57 PM
is the points cap even achieving anything? i don't see WXV any more equal then any other XV comp

was trading that made the comp unequal and poor coaching

The thing that's hard now though is that new coaches have come in and taken over shower teams (ele + Rico, Q + me) and now we need to reform the teams somehow... I know the points cap means we can't trade away what talent we have but it is not a quick fix to import talent in to our team really. Not hating on the points cap (I don't mind it) or the rest of the system but there's clearly no quick fix for us low teams!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on July 09, 2014, 10:55:20 PM
Awesome stuff Nails, I tried singing it in tune as well ;D.

Quote from: ossie85 on July 09, 2014, 04:18:41 PM
Row Labels    Team W   L   Total   %W
Stade de France   PNL   6   2   8   75.00
Stade de Gerland   PNL   4   2   6   66.67
Stade du Ray   PNL   2   4   6   33.33

Any way we can play more games not at Stade du Ray? :P.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on July 09, 2014, 11:03:57 PM
Buenos Aires are building a new home stadium in which they only play against bottom 4 opponents in.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 11, 2014, 11:10:27 AM

Just playing around with thoughts, no need to panic! Not suggesting anything....

Looking at what this season might look like if we had a 'Divisions' based system from last year results...

This example has 4 divisions:

Division 1: Top 10 from 2013
Division 2: Bottom 8 from 2013 and Top 2 from Reserves in 2013
Division 3: Positions 3 to 10 from Reserves in 2013
Division 4: Bottom 8 from Reserves in 2013

Ladders, purely based on points scored this year, didn't bother doing a fixture...

Division 1:
Dublin Destroyers   2147
Mexico City Suns   2143
Sao Paulo Pumas   2135
Buenos Aires Armadillos   2066
Cairo Sands   2006
Moscow Spetsnaz   1987
Toronto Wolves   1914
Berlin Brewers   1908
Cape Town Cobras   1862
London Royals   1796

Division 2:
PNL Reindeers   1978
Tokyo Samurai   1876
Seoul Magpies   1874
New York Revolution   1765
Pacific Islanders   1729
Wellington Warriors   1702
Beijing Thunder   1686
New Delhi Tigers   1602
Cape Town Cobras (R)   1097
Imperial Princes   984

Division 3:
Marseille Kings   1919
Port Morseby Iguanadons   1537
Toronto Wolvers (R)   1528
Alexandria Hieroglyphics   1495
Mexico City Suns (R)   1350
Belfast Braves   1115
Rio de Janeiro Jaguars   1066
Rhineland Rum-Runners   551

Division 4:
Pyongyang Chollimas   1339
Mumbai Elephants   1325
Wellington Warriors (R)   1043
Buenos Aires Armadillos (R)   989
Siberian Wolverines   928
Yuzawa Typhoon   866
Washington Rebellion   764
Shanghai Storm   692



Thinks of note: PNL would look likely winners in Division 2 and would be the unlucky team not to be in Div 1. London would struggle in Div 1 this year. The 2 reserves teams in Div 2 wouldn't be competitive, but a team like Marseille in Div 3 would have caused some havoc for some senior teams if they were in Div 2.


Going forward it would be:
- Top 2 are promoted, bottom 2 demoted.
- Except a Reserves team can not be in the same league, or in a higher division, than its senior team. So a Reserves team could never be in Div 1, and Senior team could never be in Div 4.


Again, just playing.




Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 11, 2014, 11:12:46 AM
Oh and in the top 2 divisions everyone would play everyone twice (home and away), with the top 5 playing finals.

In the bottom 2 divisions, everyone plays everyone three times, no finals
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on July 11, 2014, 12:38:07 PM
Curse those rules! PNL and Marseilles would have dominated that Division 2 ;D. PNL get unlucky but Marseilles' overall score would have been very interesting if chucked in with other Senior teams :o. Didn't realise that they scored that much last year as well...

Of course this complicates thing, so sometimes just got to keep it simple ;).
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 12, 2014, 09:49:30 PM
Mark Hutchings up for trade for a packet of chips.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on July 12, 2014, 09:55:34 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 12, 2014, 09:49:30 PM
Mark Hutchings up for trade for a packet of chips.
What have you done with the real Nige?  :o
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 12, 2014, 09:58:35 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on July 12, 2014, 09:55:34 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 12, 2014, 09:49:30 PM
Mark Hutchings up for trade for a packet of chips.
What have you done with the real Nige?  :o
The love affair is over. Such a mediocre player.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on July 12, 2014, 10:37:43 PM
Hutchings for my last national pick, Nige to confirm.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 12, 2014, 10:40:09 PM
i'm going to vote against Ele is overpaying
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on July 12, 2014, 10:43:48 PM
Haha just give him to me, you've seen our list. #needsallthehelphecanget
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 12, 2014, 10:43:58 PM
Quote from: elephants on July 12, 2014, 10:37:43 PM
Hutchings for my first three national picks, Nige to confirm.
Confirmed.  :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 22, 2014, 03:56:25 PM
ossie85... the bringer of bad news...

If you see him having the last post in your team thread.

Don't read it.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 22, 2014, 03:58:29 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 22, 2014, 03:56:25 PM
ossie85... the bringer of bad news...

If you see him having the last post in your team thread.

Don't read it.
Rarely posts in the Cairo thread.  ;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 22, 2014, 04:00:56 PM
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Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 22, 2014, 04:16:18 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 22, 2014, 03:56:25 PM
ossie85... the bringer of bad news...

If you see him having the last post in your team thread.

Don't read it.

don't shoot the messenger!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on July 22, 2014, 04:44:03 PM
Il have one soon with the huge loss of Maister :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 22, 2014, 05:05:33 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on July 22, 2014, 04:44:03 PM
Il have one soon with the huge loss of Maister :P
I'm sure he was a spiritual leader yeah?  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on July 22, 2014, 07:05:02 PM
Well if Cassisi got a post... :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on July 22, 2014, 07:58:01 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 22, 2014, 05:05:33 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on July 22, 2014, 04:44:03 PM
Il have one soon with the huge loss of Maister :P
I'm sure he was a spiritual leader yeah?  :P

Think I deserve a priority pick or something to compensate how will I survive without him
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on July 22, 2014, 10:13:58 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on July 22, 2014, 07:58:01 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 22, 2014, 05:05:33 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on July 22, 2014, 04:44:03 PM
Il have one soon with the huge loss of Maister :P
I'm sure he was a spiritual leader yeah?  :P
Think I deserve a priority pick or something to compensate how will I survive without him
PNL couldn't handle that much of a man in Maister, so we had to let him go in hope another team was good enough to fit his prowess. Such a shame he is just too good so he doesn't play many games because he'd be better than Ablett. He held back in order to spare oppositions and give them a fighting chance.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on July 22, 2014, 10:24:20 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on July 22, 2014, 10:13:58 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on July 22, 2014, 07:58:01 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 22, 2014, 05:05:33 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on July 22, 2014, 04:44:03 PM
Il have one soon with the huge loss of Maister :P
I'm sure he was a spiritual leader yeah?  :P
Think I deserve a priority pick or something to compensate how will I survive without him
PNL couldn't handle that much of a man in Maister, so we had to let him go in hope another team was good enough to fit his prowess. Such a shame he is just too good so he doesn't play many games because he'd be better than Ablett. He held back in order to spare oppositions and give them a fighting chance.

I hear he's heading to the WAFL to kick 200 goals next season!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on July 22, 2014, 11:18:51 PM
Quote from: elephants on July 22, 2014, 10:24:20 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on July 22, 2014, 10:13:58 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on July 22, 2014, 07:58:01 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 22, 2014, 05:05:33 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on July 22, 2014, 04:44:03 PM
Il have one soon with the huge loss of Maister :P
I'm sure he was a spiritual leader yeah?  :P
Think I deserve a priority pick or something to compensate how will I survive without him
PNL couldn't handle that much of a man in Maister, so we had to let him go in hope another team was good enough to fit his prowess. Such a shame he is just too good so he doesn't play many games because he'd be better than Ablett. He held back in order to spare oppositions and give them a fighting chance.

I hear he's heading to the WAFL to kick 200 goals next season!

On a 5 game contract
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on July 23, 2014, 09:22:35 AM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on July 22, 2014, 11:18:51 PM
Quote from: elephants on July 22, 2014, 10:24:20 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on July 22, 2014, 10:13:58 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on July 22, 2014, 07:58:01 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 22, 2014, 05:05:33 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on July 22, 2014, 04:44:03 PM
Il have one soon with the huge loss of Maister :P
I'm sure he was a spiritual leader yeah?  :P
Think I deserve a priority pick or something to compensate how will I survive without him
PNL couldn't handle that much of a man in Maister, so we had to let him go in hope another team was good enough to fit his prowess. Such a shame he is just too good so he doesn't play many games because he'd be better than Ablett. He held back in order to spare oppositions and give them a fighting chance.

I hear he's heading to the WAFL to kick 200 goals next season!

On a 5 game contract
at Peel Chunder
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 23, 2014, 06:53:37 PM
ossie85... compensating for his bad news...

If you see him having the last post in your team thread.

You better have hoped you'd received bad news earlier.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on July 23, 2014, 07:09:30 PM
Still no recognition for Beau #maisterwatch
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 23, 2014, 08:19:15 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on July 23, 2014, 07:09:30 PM
Still no recognition for Beau #maisterwatch

lol you already know that !
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 24, 2014, 12:45:13 PM


So, had a quick play about what Worlds would look like with a salary cap...

Calculated:
- AFL average of each player from the last 3 years (2012-2014) multiplied by 5000 (simple magic number)
- Any player who has played less than 10 AFL games over the last 3 years is given a base salary of $100,000


So:

PNL Reindeers   $14,435,000
Toronto Wolves   $14,219,000
Buenos Aires Armadillos   $13,802,000
Sao Paulo Pumas   $13,621,000
Mexico City Suns   $13,580,000
Dublin Destroyers   $13,576,000
London Royals   $13,158,000
Cape Town Cobras   $13,109,000
Tokyo Samurai   $12,948,000
Cairo Sands   $12,926,000
Wellington Warriors   $12,764,000
Berlin Brewers   $12,742,000
Pacific Islanders   $12,725,000
New York Revolution   $12,641,000
Moscow Spetsnaz   $12,297,000
Seoul Magpies   $11,996,000
New Delhi Tigers   $11,697,000
Beijing Thunder   $10,918,000


More or less what you'd expect, with an average Salary of $12,953,000.


The top 20 Salaries are:
Surname   Given   Club   Salary
Ablett   Gary jnr   Sao Paulo Pumas   $672,000
Pendlebury   Scott   Toronto Wolves   $628,000
Beams   Dayne   Cairo Sands   $586,000
Selwood   Joel   Dublin Destroyers   $586,000
Watson   Jobe   Dublin Destroyers   $579,000
Kennedy   Josh P   Cape Town Cobras   $575,000
Swan   Dane   Buenos Aires Armadillos   $564,000
Dangerfield   Patrick   Seoul Magpies   $561,000
Cotchin   Trent   Cape Town Cobras   $549,000
Boyd   Matthew   Buenos Aires Armadillos   $546,000
Rockliff   Tom   Dublin Destroyers   $542,000
Fyfe   Nat   Berlin Brewers   $539,000
Johnson   Steve   Buenos Aires Armadillos   $538,000
Jack   Kieran   Tokyo Samurai   $538,000
Sloane   Rory   Sao Paulo Pumas   $537,000
Deledio   Brett   Wellington Warriors   $535,000
Cox   Dean   Buenos Aires Armadillos   $534,000
Priddis   Matt   PNL Reindeers   $532,000
Griffen   Ryan   Moscow Spetsnaz   $528,000
Ward   Callan   Moscow Spetsnaz   $528,000

The bottom 20 salaries (played 10 or more games from last 3 years) are:
Hine   Taylor   Toronto Wolves   $218,000
Brown   Mitchell J   London Royals   $217,000
Sheridan   Thomas   New Delhi Tigers   $217,000
Kennedy   Ben   Beijing Thunder   $213,000
Plowman   Lachlan   Cape Town Cobras   $212,000
McKenzie   Brad   PNL Reindeers   $212,000
Sumner   Tim   Wellington Warriors   $212,000
Townsend   Jacob   Tokyo Samurai   $209,000
Sheringham   Jackson   Tokyo Samurai   $208,000
Bootsma   Joshua   Dublin Destroyers   $205,000
Dunell   Sam   New Delhi Tigers   $203,000
Lemmens   Sean   Mexico City Suns   $202,000
Corr   Aidan   PNL Reindeers   $200,000
Salem   Christian   Seoul Magpies   $188,000
Rohan   Gary   Cape Town Cobras   $185,000
Sexton   Alex   Cape Town Cobras   $176,000
Hutchins   Jack   Pacific Islanders   $173,000
Wilson   Nathan   Berlin Brewers   $167,000
Whiley   Mark   Toronto Wolves   $167,000
Jack   Brandon   Mexico City Suns   $160,000



IF (and I realise it is a big if) we do a Salary cap, this is how I'd see it working.

- A cap of $13,500,000

- If a player has played 10 games in reserves, they can be poached. I.e: Troy Chaplin has played 15 Cairo reserves matches and his value is $374,000. Beijing, in desperate need for Defenders, would need to offer an extra 50% minimum ($561,000) to poach him. In order for Cairo to prevent him being poached, they would need to raise its salary offer by 25% (or 30% if they offered 60%, 45% if they offered 90%, etc) to $468,000.

- Any player, apart from 5 'franchise' players at each teams, can be poached at Twice the salary minimum. PNL's Daniel Rich is currently $440,000. In order for New Delhi to poach him, they'd need to offer $880,000. If PNL wanted to keep him, they'd need to offer $660,000 (half way between).

- Each team nominates 5 franchise players. These players can only be poached at a mammoth Three times the price. Gary Ablett jnr's price is $672,000. For him to be poached, someone would need to offer a whopping $2,016,000 to steal him. In order for Sao Paulo to keep him, all they would need to do is increase his salary by 25% (to a total of $840,000).


- All teams that have players poached would be compensated with draft picks.


- If you think a player is overvalued, say Buenos Aires Dane Swan at $564,000, you can offer him a pay decrease to anything you want. BUT, if any team matches that price they can register an interest. I.e. $564,000. I.e. Buenos Aires reduces Dane Swan's salary to $400,000. One of two things would happen - either nobody registers an interest and the salary decrease is accepted, or a team (say Seoul) registers an interest. If Buenos Aires wants to keep Swan they'd need to pay him $564,000. If they don't, Seoul are obliged to take him at $400,000.





I kinda like this idea. This would replace the points cap.










Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on July 24, 2014, 12:52:56 PM
Interesting, I like the idea too.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on July 24, 2014, 01:06:56 PM
Sounds pretty cool Ossie, would definitely add something to WXV I reckon.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 24, 2014, 01:43:43 PM
The problem I see with it is poaching. Let's say the weaker teams all decided to pick one top 4 team and target it and poach like the 6th 6th 8th 9th best players.

No way would that team be able to match and you can basically destroy that team.

Could see a lot of private dealings done to sabotage other teams.

Hey New dehli I'll give you player X If you try and poach my competitions players.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 24, 2014, 01:47:37 PM
We could add a you can only poach x players per team

But if say Dublin lose Rockliff, you'd theoretically be able to use that money to poach from someone else
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on July 24, 2014, 01:55:03 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 24, 2014, 01:43:43 PM
Hey New dehli I'll give you player X If you try and poach my competitions players.

In future its probably better to hit me up via PM but your wish I my command ;)



If this does happen, the value of players on the trade table is going to be thrown out completely...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on July 24, 2014, 02:21:12 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 24, 2014, 01:47:37 PM
We could add a you can only poach x players per team

But if say Dublin lose Rockliff, you'd theoretically be able to use that money to poach from someone else
2 players per team IMO. Would be a cool addition no doubt!

The only concern is the added workload for yourself Os!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Boomz on July 24, 2014, 02:30:32 PM
That sounds like a pretty interesting idea. I like it. Although it would be pretty hectic come poaching time lol
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on July 24, 2014, 02:31:59 PM
Like the idea but have a little trouble understanding the reduction as to why the club expressing interest at the reduced price get him at that price.

Surely it should be Swan is devalued to $400k and if club x comes in and says I want Swan for say $450k Buenos Aries has the opportunity to increase to $450k or he goes to Club x for the $450K not $400k because Buenos Aires did not match.

May be missing something with this one so happy to have it explained further.

With Drafts will all players be allocated same price or will it be tiered, eg All new draftees at say $90k and rookies at say $50k or will top 10 draft picks have a premium applied.

Salary Cap will make trading and drafting interesting,
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 24, 2014, 02:35:35 PM
Yeah happy enough with that suggestion Ringo :)

Reckon all newbies should be 100k, just for simplicity.  #1 not guaranteed and a pick 60ish player could win the rising star this year
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on July 24, 2014, 03:21:22 PM
What would the salary cap roughly be Oss? Out of interest.

Also, I wouldn't mind a sort of two (or three) year 'contract' for rookies making them unavailable via free agency for the first few years. Just because rookies can often have terrible averages over the first few seasons due to being the sub or having limited opportunities etc.

For example, say in the unlikely scenario that PNL ended up with the #1 pick last year (unlikely because what the hell would Daz actually gladly offer :P) and selected Tom Boyd, his price at the end of this season based on his average of 35 would be $175 000. Now we all know how much potential Boyd actually has, so say if PNL was teetering on the edge of the salary cap and couldn't afford that extra $225 000 that Beijing offered ($400 000, a pretty reasonable amount for a team that's keen on high end young talent), PNL would lose a potential star before they've really been able to assess his value or get anything of significance back.

tl;dr - I would like rookies to be unpoachable for their first two seasons at a club as they're too easy to pry away due to their low prices.

Sorry if that made little/no sense. I'm quite hungover.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 24, 2014, 04:11:37 PM
This idea has me excited. Poaching/trading period would just get so much cooler.

MC raises a very good point. I'd even say a draftee/newbie should not be allowed to be poached for 4 years.

How would compensation picks work?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jukes on July 24, 2014, 04:29:23 PM
Too complicated!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 24, 2014, 04:34:42 PM
Quote from: Jukes on July 24, 2014, 04:29:23 PM
Too complicated!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on July 24, 2014, 04:45:08 PM
I dunno, it's an interesting idea, but I'm sceptical over how well it would actually go down. I know you're all thinking wow look at all the players I can just take and I don't have to trade them anyone in return. But I'll use my team as an example for why I'm not a big fan...

My current salary is $13,621,000, so already above the proposed $13,500,000, but I would be under after delisting.

Say for example I nominate my 5 franchise players as Ablett, Sloane, Jacobs, Gunston and Walker. (Note for this I will just use this years averages as I can't be bothered working out 3 year averages
From here some team who doesn't have a ruck comes along and decides that they would like to take Minson from me, being right at the salary cap already I can't offer to match it, so I lose Minson, but gain roughly 500k in my salary cap, nowhere near enough to find an able replacement for the rucks.
Then along comes 2 more teams lacking in forwards and decide to poach Roughy and Devon Smith, offering 900,000 and 840,000 respectively, with the extra 500k I got from losing Minson I can afford to pay the 675k and 630k (an extra 435k), so I manage to keep both.
But then what do you know another team is lacking defenders so is willing to pay the 850k to take Houli from me. Sadly I can't afford to pay extra to get him, so goodbye Bachar. But luckily I now have his 425k to go along with the 65k form the Minson loss, giving me a total of 490k. Oh boy I really look forward to replacing 2 starting players with just 490k! *Note heavy sarcasm.

All this salary cap is going to do is cripple the bigger teams who will have no chance at keeping many of their starting XV because they can't afford to.

The current way works, and if good enough at trading the lower teams can climb very quickly, case in point Holz going from wooden spoon first season to premiership favourite this year.

Seems like my opinion is in the minority however :-\
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 24, 2014, 04:53:04 PM
Quote from: Honey Badger on July 24, 2014, 04:45:08 PM
The current way works, and if good enough at trading the lower teams can climb very quickly, case in point Holz going from wooden spoon first season to premiership favourite this year.

^ That's pretty much how I feel but I normally don't make any sense when I try to put my thoughts into words when dealing with matters like this.  :P



Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on July 24, 2014, 05:01:33 PM
Yeah I feel as though it would be a bit too tricky and absolute mayhem, and as the example CF just used about Dublin, they've shown that the current system ain't broke, and if it ain't broke.....
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on July 24, 2014, 05:11:30 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 24, 2014, 04:53:04 PM
Quote from: Honey Badger on July 24, 2014, 04:45:08 PM
The current way works, and if good enough at trading the lower teams can climb very quickly, case in point Holz going from wooden spoon first season to premiership favourite this year.

^ That's pretty much how I feel but I normally don't make any sense when I try to put my thoughts into words when dealing with matters like this.  :P
Lucky you have the friendly neighbourhood badger to help then ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 24, 2014, 05:15:42 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on July 24, 2014, 05:01:33 PM
Yeah I feel as though it would be a bit too tricky and absolute mayhem, and as the example CF just used about Dublin, they've shown that the current system ain't broke, and if it ain't broke.....

I think the system is a bit broke to be honest. Would have worked well, but unfortunately some teams were driven into the ground by some coaches (who are no longer part of the game).

Dublin did a fantastic job getting off the bottom.... but they were really the only terrible team that year, and now we have 4 teams that are struggling really badly... One or even 2 might be able to compete in a couple of years, but really struggle to see how all 4 can.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 24, 2014, 05:20:18 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on July 24, 2014, 03:21:22 PM
What would the salary cap roughly be Oss? Out of interest.

Also, I wouldn't mind a sort of two (or three) year 'contract' for rookies making them unavailable via free agency for the first few years. Just because rookies can often have terrible averages over the first few seasons due to being the sub or having limited opportunities etc.

For example, say in the unlikely scenario that PNL ended up with the #1 pick last year (unlikely because what the hell would Daz actually gladly offer :P) and selected Tom Boyd, his price at the end of this season based on his average of 35 would be $175 000. Now we all know how much potential Boyd actually has, so say if PNL was teetering on the edge of the salary cap and couldn't afford that extra $225 000 that Beijing offered ($400 000, a pretty reasonable amount for a team that's keen on high end young talent), PNL would lose a potential star before they've really been able to assess his value or get anything of significance back.

tl;dr - I would like rookies to be unpoachable for their first two seasons at a club as they're too easy to pry away due to their low prices.

Sorry if that made little/no sense. I'm quite hungover.

Currently have the salary cap at $13.5m, but that's just an initial estimate.

Happy enough for rookies to be unpoachable for a couple of years.


Quote from: Honey Badger on July 24, 2014, 04:45:08 PM
I dunno, it's an interesting idea, but I'm sceptical over how well it would actually go down. I know you're all thinking wow look at all the players I can just take and I don't have to trade them anyone in return. But I'll use my team as an example for why I'm not a big fan...

My current salary is $13,621,000, so already above the proposed $13,500,000, but I would be under after delisting.

Say for example I nominate my 5 franchise players as Ablett, Sloane, Jacobs, Gunston and Walker. (Note for this I will just use this years averages as I can't be bothered working out 3 year averages
From here some team who doesn't have a ruck comes along and decides that they would like to take Minson from me, being right at the salary cap already I can't offer to match it, so I lose Minson, but gain roughly 500k in my salary cap, nowhere near enough to find an able replacement for the rucks.
Then along comes 2 more teams lacking in forwards and decide to poach Roughy and Devon Smith, offering 900,000 and 840,000 respectively, with the extra 500k I got from losing Minson I can afford to pay the 675k and 630k (an extra 435k), so I manage to keep both.
But then what do you know another team is lacking defenders so is willing to pay the 850k to take Houli from me. Sadly I can't afford to pay extra to get him, so goodbye Bachar. But luckily I now have his 425k to go along with the 65k form the Minson loss, giving me a total of 490k. Oh boy I really look forward to replacing 2 starting players with just 490k! *Note heavy sarcasm.

All this salary cap is going to do is cripple the bigger teams who will have no chance at keeping many of their starting XV because they can't afford to.

The current way works, and if good enough at trading the lower teams can climb very quickly, case in point Holz going from wooden spoon first season to premiership favourite this year.

Seems like my opinion is in the minority however :-\

I agree HB that it will make it hard on the bigger teams, but that's kind of the point of the cap :P


But, Reckon if we limit it to:

- Max 1 Franchise, Max 1 'other' and 2 max on Reserve players. So at worst you'd lose 4 players. BUT if you've had to raise the price of any of your players because of it, that counts as 1. Sound fairer?

e.g. You've had to raise Ablett's salary to keep him to $800k. That counts as the franchise player they've tried to poach, so now nobody can steal any of your franchise players?




Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on July 24, 2014, 05:30:21 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 24, 2014, 05:20:18 PM
I agree HB that it will make it hard on the bigger teams, but that's kind of the point of the cap :P


But, Reckon if we limit it to:

- Max 1 Franchise, Max 1 'other' and 2 max on Reserve players. So at worst you'd lose 4 players. BUT if you've had to raise the price of any of your players because of it, that counts as 1. Sound fairer?

e.g. You've had to raise Ablett's salary to keep him to $800k. That counts as the franchise player they've tried to poach, so now nobody can steal any of your franchise players?
Haha I know that is the point of the cap to level the playing field, just felt that it wasn't really leveling it as much as it was crushing the big teams.

Those additions do make it more interesting though. Would there still be a trade period though or would it only be poaching of players? If there is still one, would it be before, after or at the same time as the poaching?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 24, 2014, 05:32:21 PM


@Purple 77... haven't worked out the compensation picks yet, happy for suggestions

@HB... we'd still have trade periods... Probably the regular trade period 1 happening concurrently with Poaching... again, happy for other ideas.













Noting that the prices will change after the rest of the season, but top 5 at each club currently:

Kreuzer   Matthew   Beijing Thunder   $469,000
Taylor   Harry   Beijing Thunder   $433,000
Wines   Oliver   Beijing Thunder   $428,000
Rosa   Matt   Beijing Thunder   $415,000
Stanley   Danny   Beijing Thunder   $394,000


Fyfe   Nat   Berlin Brewers   $539,000
Steven   Jack   Berlin Brewers   $484,000
Wells   Daniel   Berlin Brewers   $473,000
Zorko   Dayne   Berlin Brewers   $454,000
Hibberd   Michael   Berlin Brewers   $448,000


Swan   Dane   Buenos Aires Armadillos   $564,000
Boyd   Matthew   Buenos Aires Armadillos   $546,000
Johnson   Steve   Buenos Aires Armadillos   $538,000
Cox   Dean   Buenos Aires Armadillos   $534,000
Barlow   Michael   Buenos Aires Armadillos   $518,000



Beams   Dayne   Cairo Sands   $586,000
Prestia   Dion   Cairo Sands   $477,000
Mumford   Shane   Cairo Sands   $476,000
Hanley   Pearce   Cairo Sands   $467,000
Douglas   Richard   Cairo Sands   $457,000


Kennedy   Josh P   Cape Town Cobras   $575,000
Cotchin   Trent   Cape Town Cobras   $549,000
O'Keefe   Ryan   Cape Town Cobras   $496,000
Cooney   Adam   Cape Town Cobras   $442,000
Thomas   Dale   Cape Town Cobras   $425,000

^ this is a good example how ROK might be a tad overpriced...


Selwood   Joel   Dublin Destroyers   $586,000
Watson   Jobe   Dublin Destroyers   $579,000
Rockliff   Tom   Dublin Destroyers   $542,000
Dal Santo   Nick   Dublin Destroyers   $514,000
Goldstein   Todd   Dublin Destroyers   $512,000



McVeigh   Jarrad   London Royals   $520,000
Stanton   Brent   London Royals   $489,000
Hannebery   Dan   London Royals   $458,000
Hudson   Ben   London Royals   $453,000
Reilly   Brent   London Royals   $436,000


^ and Hudson....

Sidebottom   Steele   Mexico City Suns   $526,000
Goddard   Brendon   Mexico City Suns   $523,000
Maric   Ivan   Mexico City Suns   $520,000
Bartel   Jimmy   Mexico City Suns   $517,000
Sandilands   Aaron   Mexico City Suns   $510,000



Griffen   Ryan   Moscow Spetsnaz   $528,000
Ward   Callan   Moscow Spetsnaz   $528,000
Naitanui   Nic   Moscow Spetsnaz   $502,000
Martin   Dustin   Moscow Spetsnaz   $486,000
Shaw   Heath   Moscow Spetsnaz   $479,000



Montagna   Leigh   New Delhi Tigers   $519,000
Duncan   Mitch   New Delhi Tigers   $424,000
Greene   Toby   New Delhi Tigers   $422,000
Gaff   Andrew   New Delhi Tigers   $409,000
Bastinac   Ryan   New Delhi Tigers   $402,000


Liberatore   Tom   New York Revolution   $507,000
Bennell   Harley   New York Revolution   $487,000
Treloar   Adam   New York Revolution   $458,000
Armitage   David   New York Revolution   $445,000
Stokes   Matthew   New York Revolution   $433,000



Redden   Jack   Pacific Islanders   $505,000
Leuenberger   Matthew   Pacific Islanders   $442,000
Gibson   Sam   Pacific Islanders   $407,000
Blair   Jarryd   Pacific Islanders   $402,000
Howe   Jeremy   Pacific Islanders   $391,000



Priddis   Matt   PNL Reindeers   $532,000
Jones   Nathan   PNL Reindeers   $485,000
Simpson   Kade   PNL Reindeers   $474,000
Rioli   Cyril   PNL Reindeers   $473,000
Griffin   Jonathon   PNL Reindeers   $456,000



Ablett   Gary jnr   Sao Paulo Pumas   $672,000
Sloane   Rory   Sao Paulo Pumas   $537,000
Minson   Will   Sao Paulo Pumas   $515,000
Jacobs   Sam   Sao Paulo Pumas   $489,000
Roughead   Jarryd   Sao Paulo Pumas   $480,000



Dangerfield   Patrick   Seoul Magpies   $561,000
Gibbs   Bryce   Seoul Magpies   $492,000
McEvoy   Ben   Seoul Magpies   $482,000
Swallow   David   Seoul Magpies   $443,000
LeCras   Mark   Seoul Magpies   $424,000



Jack   Kieran   Tokyo Samurai   $538,000
Mitchell   Sam   Tokyo Samurai   $524,000
Selwood   Scott   Tokyo Samurai   $492,000
Judd   Chris   Tokyo Samurai   $490,000
Shuey   Luke   Tokyo Samurai   $488,000



Pendlebury   Scott   Toronto Wolves   $628,000
Swallow   Andrew   Toronto Wolves   $516,000
Ryder   Paddy   Toronto Wolves   $488,000
Johnson   Michael   Toronto Wolves   $451,000
Cunnington   Ben   Toronto Wolves   $443,000



Deledio   Brett   Wellington Warriors   $535,000
Murphy   Marc   Wellington Warriors   $519,000
Hayes   Lenny   Wellington Warriors   $495,000
McIntosh   Hamish   Wellington Warriors   $457,000
Walker   Taylor   Wellington Warriors   $435,000





Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 24, 2014, 05:42:56 PM
I feel the game is fine it's not the system that creates gaps its the coaches. I understand that most of the issues have been caused by coaches who have since left but the poaching really hurts coaches who have built there way up. I can only speak for myself but I built my team up from probably a worst state than any current team and would be pretty annoyed to have my players poached. This poaching issue would always been on my mind when trading instead of making as solid a squad as possible. Just like the cap pushes teams to go shallow and have little cover or overvalued players who have been injured.

I'm working on rebalncing in the euro and my prefered method is to mentor/give advice to the weaker teams and to make sure they have quality assistants. You can build with the current system has been done before and can be done again. Artificial constraints to me take away a lot of the freedom and cause possible explotiations and overvaluing of certain players.

Make sure the bottom teams have a trading strategy and drafting strategy. The way teams are ruined are having no direction or ridiculous strategies like going super super young and trading away players who are under 26 because they are too old.

On that note if anyone  wants some advice on building up a club I'm happy to help. These weak clubs have decent lists and with the right moves can move up the ladder with good direction.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on July 24, 2014, 05:51:08 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on July 24, 2014, 03:21:22 PM
What would the salary cap roughly be Oss? Out of interest.

Also, I wouldn't mind a sort of two (or three) year 'contract' for rookies making them unavailable via free agency for the first few years. Just because rookies can often have terrible averages over the first few seasons due to being the sub or having limited opportunities etc.

For example, say in the unlikely scenario that PNL ended up with the #1 pick last year (unlikely because what the hell would Daz actually gladly offer :P) and selected Tom Boyd, his price at the end of this season based on his average of 35 would be $175 000. Now we all know how much potential Boyd actually has, so say if PNL was teetering on the edge of the salary cap and couldn't afford that extra $225 000 that Beijing offered ($400 000, a pretty reasonable amount for a team that's keen on high end young talent), PNL would lose a potential star before they've really been able to assess his value or get anything of significance back.

tl;dr - I would like rookies to be unpoachable for their first two seasons at a club as they're too easy to pry away due to their low prices.

Sorry if that made little/no sense. I'm quite hungover.

got a mention :D

i see my reputation proceeds  me :P...lol


Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: MajorLazer on July 24, 2014, 05:55:17 PM
I think that there would also need to be a maximum amount of players that teams can poach, so there is still a focus on trading during this period. I can see teams pretty much scrapping the idea of trading because they think they can just poach enough players from other teams and still stay under the cap.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 24, 2014, 06:09:56 PM
Quote from: MajorLazer on July 24, 2014, 05:55:17 PM
I think that there would also need to be a maximum amount of players that teams can poach, so there is still a focus on trading during this period. I can see teams pretty much scrapping the idea of trading because they think they can just poach enough players from other teams and still stay under the cap.

Good point
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: MajorLazer on July 24, 2014, 06:16:04 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 24, 2014, 06:09:56 PM
Quote from: MajorLazer on July 24, 2014, 05:55:17 PM
I think that there would also need to be a maximum amount of players that teams can poach, so there is still a focus on trading during this period. I can see teams pretty much scrapping the idea of trading because they think they can just poach enough players from other teams and still stay under the cap.

Good point
Maybe 4, like the second trading window. Though this would still go along with all teams only being allowed to lose 4? I guess, to stop teams getting decimated.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 24, 2014, 06:20:43 PM
Basing it off averages kind of overvalues miss though. So if this went ahead I would weaken my kids and go after the best forwards and backs in the comp. Also ruck poaching could cripple certain teams. Like if someone went 1 mil for goldy no way could I match that than I have no rucks. Very interesting idea but I can see it causing a lit of problems. Plus with the rule I would have drafted and traded differently it will hurt some clubs more than others. PNL will get crippled and dillos having all old players will have few poachings as nobody will go after there players when there are guys Luke Rocky.

So hurts teams that built quality youngish lists.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 24, 2014, 06:24:24 PM
yeah i don't like it
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on July 24, 2014, 06:44:53 PM
Its a very interesting concept and a cool idea but I'm probably leaning toward the Keep it Simple/If it ain't broke ideology here.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on July 24, 2014, 07:53:52 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 24, 2014, 05:32:21 PM
@HB... we'd still have trade periods... Probably the regular trade period 1 happening concurrently with Poaching... again, happy for other ideas.
Ok. In my opinion if it were to go ahead, I would think the poaching should be done before the regular trading period, ie a week (or two) for poaching then the trade period starts after. My reasoning for that would be that if you were one of the unlucky clubs to lose a good player you would be able to then use the trade period to try and fix up the team. Whereas if they ran at the same time someone in the last day or two could poach a player, not giving the other team enough time to find a replacement. Or what would happen if you made a trade for a player and he then got poached from you?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on July 24, 2014, 07:59:22 PM
Think poaching should be only allowed on players over 25 or similar.

Anyway I think something like this would be better put in on a new competition rather than a pre-existing one.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on July 24, 2014, 08:01:30 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on July 24, 2014, 07:59:22 PM
Think poaching should be only allowed on players over 25 or similar.

Anyway I think something like this would be better put in on a new competition rather than a pre-existing one.
agreed.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on July 24, 2014, 08:03:49 PM
i have to agree with Holz and HB on this one
even though PNL could potentially poach a big name mid which we really need
but i tihnk it doesn't work well for a few reasons
1. it is meant to be a franchise game with poaching players especially marquee ones "could" be flying all over the place which isn't realistic imo

2.the ruckman issue i feel it is the hardest position to have 2 ore more great options and people have worked hard to get there it isn't fair for that along with other positions to be decimated by poaching (i get that is what the max limit is for though)

3. i feel trading can fix all (i know i am hard to deal with) but we are not one of those bottom 4 clubs we believe we had most of the pieces just missing a few not needing a huge overhaul
but i find (and this is not directed at the 4 clubs but in general) there is a big big emphasis on hoarding young players and getting in young players
ofc that is great for long term success but i feel alot sacrifice short term for that long term which is what makes it more uneven
a perfect example is Holz trading JOM nearly everyone else would of been like hell no yet he got fyfe and then ofc traded him for buddy

but the point is it can be done but there needs to be a balance
but if we go down the poaching route then trading becomes even more pointless
(and if someone really wants to be a pr*ck they could threaten poaching if trade talks are not going well)
the only way it has any chance imo is if it is used to get more depth at clubs i.e
each team could name say their 18 (just like a lineup with 3 emerg) and they are not poach able (ok might be too many i know that was what 5 was for but still think that is quite a low number for the really good teams)
that means teams will not be teared apart it also stops the power of trading becoming to diminished

see Ossman i understand what your trying to do and that is even the comp up more
but i see poaching get awful messy and also diminishing the power of trading
and if going on coinciding with trading could become rally confusing imo


edit: i hope this makes sense....lol


Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on July 24, 2014, 09:51:23 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 24, 2014, 12:45:13 PM
PNL Reindeers   $14,435,000

- A cap of $13,500,000
So screwed :P.

Quote from: Holzman on July 24, 2014, 06:20:43 PM
Basing it off averages kind of overvalues miss though. So if this went ahead I would weaken my kids and go after the best forwards and backs in the comp. Also ruck poaching could cripple certain teams. Like if someone went 1 mil for goldy no way could I match that than I have no rucks. Very interesting idea but I can see it causing a lit of problems. Plus with the rule I would have drafted and traded differently it will hurt some clubs more than others. PNL will get crippled and dillos having all old players will have few poachings as nobody will go after there players when there are guys Luke Rocky.

So hurts teams that built quality youngish lists.
Seeing as most of our guys won't have insane salaries but we have plenty of depth, can certainly see quite a few players getting poached as we're over the cap, therefore going to lose players :(.

Quote from: Honey Badger on July 24, 2014, 07:53:52 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 24, 2014, 05:32:21 PM
@HB... we'd still have trade periods... Probably the regular trade period 1 happening concurrently with Poaching... again, happy for other ideas.
Ok. In my opinion if it were to go ahead, I would think the poaching should be done before the regular trading period, ie a week (or two) for poaching then the trade period starts after. My reasoning for that would be that if you were one of the unlucky clubs to lose a good player you would be able to then use the trade period to try and fix up the team. Whereas if they ran at the same time someone in the last day or two could poach a player, not giving the other team enough time to find a replacement. Or what would happen if you made a trade for a player and he then got poached from you?
Agree with HB, if it does go through, has to be before trading period to allow teams who got poached at having a possibility to fill the void that was left. Just say a team came in and sniped Lobbe from us somehow, PNL wouldn't even have a ruckman (unless Griffin somehow remains on field).

Now for my opinion... It's an interesting concept indeed and could work for a salary cap over the point cap. However it may get a bit more confusing for you Oss keeping up all the prices, especially when it does get changed via bidding and stuff. However, I think if we do franchise 5 players, it would be too little as can still hurt teams, so if it was say 10-15 players, would be better in order to keep teams together.

Given, I still prefer trading system with a strict passing criteria. PNL have alot of depth and we actually don't mind trading off depth players. Daz is stingy, but I've tried to help other teams over at Euros with Iceland who are similar to PNL with the depth (and also lack mids ::) ). And usually aimed at lower teams who need some positions filled up forward or back, PNL could legit field a Reserves XV some weeks, so if people need players playing, we can unload points :D. So that also helps when teams are also willing to help out the lower teams trading out some players in order to raise their competitiveness. Not when teams get greedy, then that causes imbalance in the lead. That and teams going super young....
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 25, 2014, 09:26:46 AM
Starting to think I might change my vote on poaching.

An aside, I also think trade passing should be stricter. I still can't believe (although it was reversed in the end courtesy of the good people at PNL) that Liberatore deal to PNL got passed last trading period, and that an incredible 13 (!!!!) coaches (+ more co-coaches) let it through.

Yeah, this one:

PNL trade: Justin Westhoff, Luke Ball and Pick 6
New York trade: Tom Liberatore, Trent McKenzie and Pick 25

I think the fact that that trade got through means the system isn't strict enough.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on July 25, 2014, 10:16:25 AM
Just another thought oss

This comp at end of next year would have been going for 4 years. To maintain similarities to AFL could we work something similar to the free agency for players that have been with clubs for the 4 years. 
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on July 25, 2014, 12:41:46 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 25, 2014, 09:26:46 AM
Starting to think I might change my vote on poaching.

An aside, I also think trade passing should be stricter. I still can't believe (although it was reversed in the end courtesy of the good people at PNL) that Liberatore deal to PNL got passed last trading period, and that an incredible 13 (!!!!) coaches (+ more co-coaches) let it through.

Yeah, this one:

PNL trade: Justin Westhoff, Luke Ball and Pick 6
New York trade: Tom Liberatore, Trent McKenzie and Pick 25

I think the fact that that trade got through means the system isn't strict enough.

Haha, to be fair it is getting stricter. Some of the catastrophic trades that were done in 2012 on NDT were next level robbery, absolutely disgusting. Turned us from having a team pretty safely in the 5-8 range to the worst list in the league that somehow hasn't finished last this season :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 25, 2014, 12:43:19 PM
Quote from: elephants on July 25, 2014, 12:41:46 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 25, 2014, 09:26:46 AM
Starting to think I might change my vote on poaching.

An aside, I also think trade passing should be stricter. I still can't believe (although it was reversed in the end courtesy of the good people at PNL) that Liberatore deal to PNL got passed last trading period, and that an incredible 13 (!!!!) coaches (+ more co-coaches) let it through.

Yeah, this one:

PNL trade: Justin Westhoff, Luke Ball and Pick 6
New York trade: Tom Liberatore, Trent McKenzie and Pick 25

I think the fact that that trade got through means the system isn't strict enough.

Haha, to be fair it is getting stricter. Some of the catastrophic trades that were done in 2012 on NDT were next level robbery, absolutely disgusting. Turned us from having a team pretty safely in the 5-8 range to the worst list in the league that somehow hasn't finished last this season :P

What do you mean worst list in the league? You have Zac Dawson!  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on July 25, 2014, 12:53:21 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 25, 2014, 12:43:19 PM
Quote from: elephants on July 25, 2014, 12:41:46 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 25, 2014, 09:26:46 AM
Starting to think I might change my vote on poaching.

An aside, I also think trade passing should be stricter. I still can't believe (although it was reversed in the end courtesy of the good people at PNL) that Liberatore deal to PNL got passed last trading period, and that an incredible 13 (!!!!) coaches (+ more co-coaches) let it through.

Yeah, this one:

PNL trade: Justin Westhoff, Luke Ball and Pick 6
New York trade: Tom Liberatore, Trent McKenzie and Pick 25

I think the fact that that trade got through means the system isn't strict enough.

Haha, to be fair it is getting stricter. Some of the catastrophic trades that were done in 2012 on NDT were next level robbery, absolutely disgusting. Turned us from having a team pretty safely in the 5-8 range to the worst list in the league that somehow hasn't finished last this season :P

What do you mean worst list in the league? You have Zac Dawson!  :P
ZDawson for Fyfe, Zorko and JJK?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 25, 2014, 12:56:27 PM
Dawson played in 4 grand finals,  the others only 1 combined. Unfair trade
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on July 25, 2014, 12:58:14 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 25, 2014, 12:56:27 PM
Dawson played in 4 grand finals,  the others only 1 combined. Unfair trade
Yeh thought so as well but sometimes you have to cop a small loss
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on July 25, 2014, 01:03:03 PM
And on the back of this latest information...

ZAC DAWSON IS UP FOR TRADE

Highest bidder, enquire via PM ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on July 25, 2014, 02:31:12 PM
Thanks for putting our trade as the reason to change your stance on poaching Purps :P. Given, Ball has averaged over 90+ before and Westhoff is arguably one of the top forwards in the league, not to mention #6 landed Billings. Certainly would have been a big win for PNL if we weren't so nice >:(.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 25, 2014, 04:21:42 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on July 25, 2014, 02:31:12 PM
Thanks for putting our trade as the reason to change your stance on poaching Purps :P. Given, Ball has averaged over 90+ before and Westhoff is arguably one of the top forwards in the league, not to mention #6 landed Billings. Certainly would have been a big win for PNL if we weren't so nice >:(.

Good guys finish last    :P

I would have really struggled to reverse that trade if I were you, so kudos.  8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 25, 2014, 04:22:52 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 25, 2014, 12:53:21 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 25, 2014, 12:43:19 PM
Quote from: elephants on July 25, 2014, 12:41:46 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 25, 2014, 09:26:46 AM
Starting to think I might change my vote on poaching.

An aside, I also think trade passing should be stricter. I still can't believe (although it was reversed in the end courtesy of the good people at PNL) that Liberatore deal to PNL got passed last trading period, and that an incredible 13 (!!!!) coaches (+ more co-coaches) let it through.

Yeah, this one:

PNL trade: Justin Westhoff, Luke Ball and Pick 6
New York trade: Tom Liberatore, Trent McKenzie and Pick 25

I think the fact that that trade got through means the system isn't strict enough.

Haha, to be fair it is getting stricter. Some of the catastrophic trades that were done in 2012 on NDT were next level robbery, absolutely disgusting. Turned us from having a team pretty safely in the 5-8 range to the worst list in the league that somehow hasn't finished last this season :P

What do you mean worst list in the league? You have Zac Dawson!  :P
ZDawson for Fyfe, Zorko and JJK?

No point in me giving you JJK if I get dawson... Dawson makes his score better, so they have to be in the same team  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on July 25, 2014, 05:09:31 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 25, 2014, 04:21:42 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on July 25, 2014, 02:31:12 PM
Thanks for putting our trade as the reason to change your stance on poaching Purps :P. Given, Ball has averaged over 90+ before and Westhoff is arguably one of the top forwards in the league, not to mention #6 landed Billings. Certainly would have been a big win for PNL if we weren't so nice >:(.

Good guys finish last    :P

I would have really struggled to reverse that trade if I were you, so kudos.  8)

yeah we are nice guys
and Ax and pyro don't even coach the bloody team anymore
no more reverse for any trade is happening again that is for sure

but yeah there are some trades that get through that really shouldn't
not just that one listed above (though i think that was the biggest steal in that trade period if we didn't reverse it)

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on July 26, 2014, 08:08:40 PM
It's certainly an interesting idea but it is quite complicated. Although I would like a Free Agency type thing added, would be cool - especially reserves players not getting games becoming available as FA's or something!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 26, 2014, 08:23:16 PM

heard all the feedback, and will work on a simplified method :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on July 26, 2014, 10:24:09 PM
Could do free agency for those who play too many reserve games like Toga said. Know you've mentioned something like that in the past Oss, and allows some teams who need the depth get playing depth from other teams.

Given, limit it as I don't want Marseilles to lose too many players :P.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: AaronKirk on July 26, 2014, 11:10:25 PM
By the looks of it NY would have been screwed and locked on the bottom if that trade went through.

I like the idea of a salary cap, would be interesting to see how it played out.

A system where you could poach players over 25 would also even the comp I would think. It would make teams like mine who are below the cap be even more aggressive to make our list better.

There should however be some sort of dispensation were 1 or 2 players would be declared "marquee" players where either half or whole of their salary is excluded from the cap- This means the poaching/free agency would be brought in but would not necessarily be detrimental to the clubs that are near or above $13.5m cap.

And I would also think that the "marquee" players nominated by each club should be protected from poaching.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on July 26, 2014, 11:31:23 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on July 26, 2014, 11:10:25 PM
By the looks of it NY would have been screwed and locked on the bottom if that trade went through.
It did go through :-X. Should be happy the guys over at PNL are too nice :(.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on July 26, 2014, 11:33:40 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on July 26, 2014, 11:31:23 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on July 26, 2014, 11:10:25 PM
By the looks of it NY would have been screwed and locked on the bottom if that trade went through.
It did go through :-X. Should be happy the guys over at PNL are too nice :(.

Wishing FS and Torp traded with PNL when they set out to wreck New Delhi at the end of 2012 :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on July 26, 2014, 11:50:54 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on July 26, 2014, 11:31:23 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on July 26, 2014, 11:10:25 PM
By the looks of it NY would have been screwed and locked on the bottom if that trade went through.
It did go through :-X. Should be happy the guys over at PNL are too nice :(.

My excessive whinging saved NY imo ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on July 27, 2014, 12:20:42 AM
Quote from: Nails on July 26, 2014, 11:50:54 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on July 26, 2014, 11:31:23 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on July 26, 2014, 11:10:25 PM
By the looks of it NY would have been screwed and locked on the bottom if that trade went through.
It did go through :-X. Should be happy the guys over at PNL are too nice :(.
My excessive whinging saved NY imo ;)
Nope, we already planned to, just liked humouring people and acted like the bad guy :P. Twas fun.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on July 27, 2014, 12:22:29 AM
Quote from: Hellopplz on July 27, 2014, 12:20:42 AM
Quote from: Nails on July 26, 2014, 11:50:54 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on July 26, 2014, 11:31:23 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on July 26, 2014, 11:10:25 PM
By the looks of it NY would have been screwed and locked on the bottom if that trade went through.
It did go through :-X. Should be happy the guys over at PNL are too nice :(.
My excessive whinging saved NY imo ;)
Nope, we already planned to, just liked humouring people and acted like the bad guy :P. Twas fun.

my doging and moaning was in before the trade was even voted on :-X

You guys were naughty trying that. I told everybody Libba is GUN everybody say nope spud.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on July 27, 2014, 09:24:36 AM
Quote from: Nails on July 27, 2014, 12:22:29 AM
Quote from: Hellopplz on July 27, 2014, 12:20:42 AM
Quote from: Nails on July 26, 2014, 11:50:54 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on July 26, 2014, 11:31:23 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on July 26, 2014, 11:10:25 PM
By the looks of it NY would have been screwed and locked on the bottom if that trade went through.
It did go through :-X. Should be happy the guys over at PNL are too nice :(.
My excessive whinging saved NY imo ;)
Nope, we already planned to, just liked humouring people and acted like the bad guy :P. Twas fun.

my doging and moaning was in before the trade was even voted on :-X

You guys were naughty trying that. I told everybody Libba is GUN everybody say nope spud.
nah we already planned to reverse as Ax regretted it

but yeah was quite frustrating because we were made to feel like we cheated when everyone could of easily voted against

seems like about 7 or 8 seemed to think it was not a good trade yet most passed it

worst thing for us is we reversed for Ax and pyro's sake and both don't even coach new york anymore  :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on July 27, 2014, 09:57:11 AM
But as you can see now LIBBA

was a huge one way trade :o I honestly couldn't believe it got passed even for a second lol.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on July 27, 2014, 10:08:27 AM
Quote from: Nails on July 27, 2014, 09:57:11 AM
But as you can see now LIBBA

was a huge one way trade :o I honestly couldn't believe it got passed even for a second lol.
yeah we were pretty happy with it to say the least
but that is why we reversed as Ax regretted and we couldn't blame him for that

damn you Ax why you at Tokyo now :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 27, 2014, 02:16:40 PM
... ok...

I've made it more complicated :P But only how to work out salaries!

Holz brings a good point how salary cap over values mids. That is true. So bare with me.

For this analysis:

All defender-midfielders are considered defenders
All forward-midfielders are considered forwards
All ruck-forwards are considered rucks
All defender-forwards are considered forwards

Over the first 17 AFL rounds:

Defenders have played a total of 2001 AFL matches at an average of 70.30
Midfielders have played a total of 2193 AFL matches at an average of 82.02
Rucks have played a total of 451 matches at an average of 80.04
Forwards have played a total of 1691 matches at an average of 70.11

So I've adjusted each player's original salary I did before, but giving them a multiplier so they all equal the midfielders average:

Defenders salaries multiplied by 1.17, Mids by 1.00, rucks by 1.02 and forwards by 1.17

BUT there's a scarcity issue. Rucks are hard to come by (only 1.67 rucks available to fill the 1 ruck spot in each team), but forwards are even harder (only 6.26 forwards available to fill the 4 forward spots, or 1.57 for each forward spot). Defenders are at 1.85 per position, and midfielders 2.03. BUT as most people put midfielders on the interchange (66%) I had to adjust for that, with 13% of interchange players defenders, 12% ruck and 9% forwards (which really shows that it is forwards, not rucks, that are the problem).

So multiplied salaries again by a new multiplier (1.00 for defenders, 1.03 for midfielders, 1.20 for rucks and 1.17 for forwards) to compensate for that...


.... Basically the new salaries have substantially increased the value of forwards, and a bit less so for rucks. Which I think makes sense... The new top 20 salaries (again based on average from last 3 years):

Surname   Given   Club   SalaryAdj
Dangerfield   Patrick   Seoul Magpies   $768,000
Harvey   Brent   Buenos Aires Armadillos   $702,000
Franklin   Lance   Dublin Destroyers   $683,000
Ablett   Gary jnr   Sao Paulo Pumas   $672,000
Pavlich   Matthew   Mexico City Suns   $669,000
Martin   Dustin   Moscow Spetsnaz   $665,000
Chapman   Paul   Buenos Aires Armadillos   $663,000
Riewoldt   Nick   Mexico City Suns   $660,000
Roughead   Jarryd   Sao Paulo Pumas   $657,000
Cox   Dean   Buenos Aires Armadillos   $656,000
Rioli   Cyril   PNL Reindeers   $648,000
Maric   Ivan   Mexico City Suns   $639,000
Minson   Will   Sao Paulo Pumas   $632,000
Goldstein   Todd   Dublin Destroyers   $629,000
Pendlebury   Scott   Toronto Wolves   $628,000
Petrie   Drew   Buenos Aires Armadillos   $627,000
Sandilands   Aaron   Mexico City Suns   $626,000
Zorko   Dayne   Berlin Brewers   $621,000
Naitanui   Nic   Moscow Spetsnaz   $617,000
Gray   Robbie   Dublin Destroyers   $613,000

Midfielders aren't worth as much because they are freely available, and they score higher. I actually like this list a lot better, as forwards and rucks really are at a premium.

And the total salaries for each team:

PNL Reindeers   $17,060,000
Toronto Wolves   $16,496,000
Buenos Aires Armadillos   $15,838,000
London Royals   $15,604,000
Mexico City Suns   $15,590,000
Sao Paulo Pumas   $15,570,000
Dublin Destroyers   $15,491,000
Pacific Islanders   $15,247,000
Cape Town Cobras   $15,101,000
Tokyo Samurai   $15,034,000
Cairo Sands   $14,863,000
Wellington Warriors   $14,832,000
Berlin Brewers   $14,764,000
New York Revolution   $14,226,000
Moscow Spetsnaz   $14,190,000
Seoul Magpies   $13,542,000
New Delhi Tigers   $12,946,000
Beijing Thunder   $12,536,000


Which is a very interesting new table....

London's very high, pretty much because they have players like Hudson ($556k), Brown ($471k) and Q Lynch ($464k) who will all be gone next year, and plenty of other players like Bellchambers ($492k), Staker ($524k) and J Hill ($460k) who have all had disappointing years really. I wouldn't panic if I was London.

Other's that are high like PNL and Toronto are because they have a fair few forwards and rucks, and have great depth in general. While the only other abnormally high salary is Pacific - who actually have a whopping 12 forwards and rucks worth $400k or more.


I like these salaries better, what are your thoughts?

Will be working on a toned down 'poaching' strategy also....

Big 5 at each club:

Kreuzer   Matthew   Beijing Thunder   $576,000
Betts   Eddie   Beijing Thunder   $511,000
Mayes   Sam   Beijing Thunder   $487,000
Wines   Oliver   Beijing Thunder   $428,000
Varcoe   Travis   Beijing Thunder   $423,000


Zorko   Dayne   Berlin Brewers   $621,000
Kennedy   Josh J   Berlin Brewers   $545,000
Fyfe   Nat   Berlin Brewers   $539,000
Clark   Mitch   Berlin Brewers   $527,000
Jetta   Lewis   Berlin Brewers   $497,000



Harvey   Brent   Buenos Aires Armadillos   $702,000
Chapman   Paul   Buenos Aires Armadillos   $663,000
Cox   Dean   Buenos Aires Armadillos   $656,000
Petrie   Drew   Buenos Aires Armadillos   $627,000
Schulz   Jay   Buenos Aires Armadillos   $571,000



Breust   Luke   Cairo Sands   $594,000
Beams   Dayne   Cairo Sands   $586,000
Mumford   Shane   Cairo Sands   $585,000
Giles   Jonathan   Cairo Sands   $504,000
Prestia   Dion   Cairo Sands   $477,000



Kennedy   Josh P   Cape Town Cobras   $575,000
Hawkins   Tom   Cape Town Cobras   $550,000
Cotchin   Trent   Cape Town Cobras   $549,000
Higgins   Shaun   Cape Town Cobras   $533,000
Darling   Jack   Cape Town Cobras   $530,000



Franklin   Lance   Dublin Destroyers   $683,000
Goldstein   Todd   Dublin Destroyers   $629,000
Gray   Robbie   Dublin Destroyers   $613,000
Selwood   Joel   Dublin Destroyers   $586,000
Watson   Jobe   Dublin Destroyers   $579,000



Mayne   Chris   London Royals   $559,000
Hudson   Ben   London Royals   $556,000
Edwards   Shane   London Royals   $539,000
Staker   Brent   London Royals   $524,000
Winderlich   Jason   London Royals   $494,000




Pavlich   Matthew   Mexico City Suns   $669,000
Riewoldt   Nick   Mexico City Suns   $660,000
Maric   Ivan   Mexico City Suns   $639,000
Sandilands   Aaron   Mexico City Suns   $626,000
Waite   Jarrad   Mexico City Suns   $572,000



Martin   Dustin   Moscow Spetsnaz   $665,000
Naitanui   Nic   Moscow Spetsnaz   $617,000
Monfries   Angus   Moscow Spetsnaz   $533,000
Griffen   Ryan   Moscow Spetsnaz   $528,000
Ward   Callan   Moscow Spetsnaz   $528,000



Montagna   Leigh   New Delhi Tigers   $519,000
Podsiadly   James   New Delhi Tigers   $496,000
Palmer   Rhys   New Delhi Tigers   $479,000
Giansiracusa   Daniel   New Delhi Tigers   $454,000
Hampson   Shaun   New Delhi Tigers   $443,000



Cloke   Travis   New York Revolution   $574,000
Nicholls   Tom   New York Revolution   $528,000
Liberatore   Tom   New York Revolution   $507,000
Bennell   Harley   New York Revolution   $487,000
Pyke   Mike   New York Revolution   $486,000



Blair   Jarryd   Pacific Islanders   $550,000
Leuenberger   Matthew   Pacific Islanders   $543,000
Howe   Jeremy   Pacific Islanders   $535,000
Howlett   Ben   Pacific Islanders   $535,000
de Boer   Matthew   Pacific Islanders   $533,000



Rioli   Cyril   PNL Reindeers   $648,000
Westhoff   Justin   PNL Reindeers   $606,000
Griffin   Jonathon   PNL Reindeers   $560,000
Lobbe   Matthew   PNL Reindeers   $539,000
Wingard   Chad   PNL Reindeers   $533,000



Ablett   Gary jnr   Sao Paulo Pumas   $672,000
Roughead   Jarryd   Sao Paulo Pumas   $657,000
Minson   Will   Sao Paulo Pumas   $632,000
Jacobs   Sam   Sao Paulo Pumas   $601,000
Gunston   Jack   Sao Paulo Pumas   $571,000




Dangerfield   Patrick   Seoul Magpies   $768,000
McEvoy   Ben   Seoul Magpies   $592,000
LeCras   Mark   Seoul Magpies   $580,000
McGlynn   Ben   Seoul Magpies   $517,000
Ballantyne   Hayden   Seoul Magpies   $500,000



Dahlhaus   Luke   Tokyo Samurai   $587,000
Parker   Luke   Tokyo Samurai   $579,000
Tippett   Kurt   Tokyo Samurai   $567,000
Jack   Kieran   Tokyo Samurai   $538,000
Motlop   Steven   Tokyo Samurai   $517,000



Pendlebury   Scott   Toronto Wolves   $628,000
Ryder   Paddy   Toronto Wolves   $599,000
Riewoldt   Jack   Toronto Wolves   $598,000
Robinson   Mitch   Toronto Wolves   $580,000
Adams   Leigh   Toronto Wolves   $528,000



Walker   Taylor   Wellington Warriors   $595,000
McIntosh   Hamish   Wellington Warriors   $561,000
Deledio   Brett   Wellington Warriors   $535,000
Sylvia   Colin   Wellington Warriors   $535,000
Murphy   Marc   Wellington Warriors   $519,000




Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 27, 2014, 02:22:13 PM
You're right, that's complicated.

I don't understand it at all.  :-[

Then I saw Giles is our 'big 5' and got even more mindflowered.  :-X
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on July 27, 2014, 02:37:05 PM
so forwards are most scarce?
well seems we are screwed in poaching then

be interested to see how it is going to work
as basically it seems our 1 trade advantage is having alot of fowards
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on July 27, 2014, 02:41:39 PM
Remember the scores are based on 2013 averages Nigey :P. Why Wingard/Griffin is high up on our one despite less than stellar years from them. Oss handles all the harder work, but pretty much just made it for the system to take into account scarcity of forwards in the league compared to other positions (as well as Defenders/Rucks as well in general). As the other system would value mainly mids highly.

I understand it, I just don't like it because PNL are once again on top of the highest salaries :P.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on July 27, 2014, 03:05:25 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on July 27, 2014, 02:41:39 PM
Remember the scores are based on 2013 averages


somebody didn't read what ossie typed.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 27, 2014, 03:07:06 PM
Close hp, averages from 2012 to 2014
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on July 27, 2014, 03:08:00 PM
Let me be, I'm struck down with a cold that won't go away :'(.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on July 27, 2014, 03:32:09 PM
Has the Salary Cap changed Oss as well with this proposal or still up for negotiation.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 27, 2014, 03:59:35 PM
Quote from: Ringo on July 27, 2014, 03:32:09 PM
Has the Salary Cap changed Oss as well with this proposal or still up for negotiation.

Yeah that would change :) still playing with the numbers, may have gone too far with the forwards
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 27, 2014, 04:01:00 PM
Still might need the For Dummies version.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 27, 2014, 04:31:02 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 27, 2014, 04:01:00 PM
Still might need the For Dummies version.  :P

Forwards, Rucks and Defenders have had salaries adjusted up because they score less and/or their are less of them :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 27, 2014, 05:18:55 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 27, 2014, 04:31:02 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 27, 2014, 04:01:00 PM
Still might need the For Dummies version.  :P

Forwards, Rucks and Defenders have had salaries adjusted up because they score less and/or their are less of them :)
Right, I think I get it.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 27, 2014, 06:57:08 PM
Salaries are better in this system  8) great work and stats oz
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on July 27, 2014, 07:25:55 PM
Don't mind the new salary cap but still uneasy about poaching.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on July 27, 2014, 10:21:19 PM
so if this is implemented what is the actual magic number for the cap?
(i know your still working it out but have a general idea?)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 27, 2014, 11:26:42 PM
Quote from: Master Q on July 27, 2014, 07:25:55 PM
Don't mind the new salary cap but still uneasy about poaching.

I do like the new salary cap, but still don't like poaching. I'm ok with having to trade away some of my guys for younger players with weaker teams, but I don't like them getting stolen.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: AFEV on July 28, 2014, 10:57:09 PM
Man, too bad about that top 5 in NDT.
Eeeeeveryone would've been going for Hampson. Jet. :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on July 28, 2014, 11:09:28 PM
Haha NDT is a shambles.

Fold it and give me a good team pls :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 29, 2014, 10:25:39 AM
Quote from: elephants on July 28, 2014, 11:09:28 PM
Haha NDT is a shambles.

Fold it and give me a good team pls :P

Gee, how will the players react to that statement from their coach? The news should come from Dawson, the players will take the news better if it came from him   :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on July 29, 2014, 12:04:26 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 29, 2014, 10:25:39 AM
Quote from: elephants on July 28, 2014, 11:09:28 PM
Haha NDT is a shambles.

Fold it and give me a good team pls :P

Gee, how will the players react to that statement from their coach? The news should come from Dawson, the players will take the news better if it came from him   :P

Zachary has been player/coach/captain all season while I've been on holiday :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 30, 2014, 12:27:30 PM


Some finals records!


The following teams haven't played finals - Dublin, London, New York, New Delhi, Pacific, PNL, Seoul, Tokyo. Though that's about to change for Dublin and PNL.

Beijing
Finals: 1
Wins: 0

Beijing Bears   bomberboy0618   123   lost to   Moscow Spetsnaz   meow meow   174   -51   2012   H   Beijing Olympic Park   2nd Elimination Final

Berlin
Finals: 3
Wins: 2

Berlin Brewers   Purple 77   146   defeated   Cape Town Cobras   My Chumps   120   26   2013   A   Newlands Cricket Ground   2nd Elimination Final
Berlin Brewers   Purple 77   143   defeated   Moscow Spetsnaz   Jukes   119   24   2013   A   Luzhniki Stadium   2nd Semi Final
Berlin Brewers   Purple 77   145   lost to   Mexico City Suns   Maca24   173   -28   2013   A   Fireball Stadium   1st Preliminary Final

Buenos Aires
Finals: 5
Wins: 2

Buenos Aires Armadillos   PowerBug   117   lost to   Sao Paulo Pumas   Honey Badger   157   -40   2012   A   Estádio do Pumas   1st Qualifying Final
Buenos Aires Armadillos   PowerBug   140   defeated   Toronto Wolves   roo boys!   121   19   2012   H   Estadio de River   1st Semi Final
Buenos Aires Armadillos   PowerBug   140   lost to   Cape Town Cobras   My Chumps   151   -11   2012   A   Newlands Cricket Ground   2nd Preliminary Final
Buenos Aires Armadillos   Nails   143   defeated   Moscow Spetsnaz   Jukes   138   5   2013   H   Estadio de River   2nd Qualifying Final
Buenos Aires Armadillos   Nails   145   lost to   Sao Paulo Pumas   Honey Badger   146   -1   2013   H   Estadio de River   2nd Preliminary Final

Cairo
Finals: 2
Wins: 1

Cairo Sands   MajorLazer/NigeyS   149   defeated   Toronto Wolves   roo boys!   131   18   2013   H   Borg El Arab Stadium   1st Elimination Final
Cairo Sands   MajorLazer/NigeyS   144   lost to   Sao Paulo Pumas   Honey Badger   152   -8   2013   A   Estádio do Pumas   1st Semi Final

Cape Town
Finals: 4
Wins: 2

Cape Town Cobras   My Chumps   148   defeated   Mexico City Suns   Maca24   128   20   2012   A   Fireball Stadium   2nd Qualifying Final
Cape Town Cobras   My Chumps   151   defeated   Buenos Aires Armadillos   PowerBug   140   11   2012   H   Newlands Cricket Ground   2nd Preliminary Final
Cape Town Cobras   My Chumps   146   lost to   Mexico City Suns   Maca24   158   -12   2012   N2   Melbourne Cricket Ground   Grand Final
Cape Town Cobras   My Chumps   120   lost to   Berlin Brewers   Purple 77   146   -26   2013   H   Newlands Cricket Ground   2nd Elimination Final


Mexico City Suns
Finals: 7
Wins: 5

Mexico City Suns   Maca24   128   lost to   Cape Town Cobras   My Chumps   148   -20   2012   H   Fireball Stadium   2nd Qualifying Final
Mexico City Suns   Maca24   151   defeated   Moscow Spetsnaz   meow meow   120   31   2012   H   Fireball Stadium   2nd Semi Final
Mexico City Suns   Maca24   163   defeated   Sao Paulo Pumas   Honey Badger   137   26   2012   A   Estádio do Pumas   1st Preliminary Final
Mexico City Suns   Maca24   158   defeated   Cape Town Cobras   My Chumps   146   12   2012   N1   Melbourne Cricket Ground   Grand Final
Mexico City Suns   Maca24   136   defeated   Sao Paulo Pumas   Honey Badger   131   5   2013   H   Fireball Stadium   1st Qualifying Final
Mexico City Suns   Maca24   173   defeated   Berlin Brewers   Purple 77   145   28   2013   H   Fireball Stadium   1st Preliminary Final
Mexico City Suns   Maca24   150   lost to   Sao Paulo Pumas   Honey Badger   160   -10   2013   N1   Melbourne Cricket Ground   Grand Final


Moscow
Finals: 4
Wins: 1

Moscow Spetsnaz   meow meow   174   defeated   Beijing Bears   bomberboy0618   123   51   2012   A   Beijing Olympic Park   2nd Elimination Final
Moscow Spetsnaz   meow meow   120   lost to   Mexico City Suns   Maca24   151   -31   2012   A   Fireball Stadium   2nd Semi Final
Moscow Spetsnaz   Jukes   138   lost to   Buenos Aires Armadillos   Nails   143   -5   2013   A   Estadio de River   2nd Qualifying Final
Moscow Spetsnaz   Jukes   119   lost to   Berlin Brewers   Purple 77   143   -24   2013   H   Luzhniki Stadium   2nd Semi Final

Sao Paulo
Finals: 6
Wins: 4

Sao Paulo Pumas   Honey Badger   157   defeated   Buenos Aires Armadillos   PowerBug   117   40   2012   H   Estádio do Pumas   1st Qualifying Final
Sao Paulo Pumas   Honey Badger   137   lost to   Mexico City Suns   Maca24   163   -26   2012   H   Estádio do Pumas   1st Preliminary Final
Sao Paulo Pumas   Honey Badger   131   lost to   Mexico City Suns   Maca24   136   -5   2013   A   Fireball Stadium   1st Qualifying Final
Sao Paulo Pumas   Honey Badger   152   defeated   Cairo Sands   MajorLazer/NigeyS   144   8   2013   H   Estádio do Pumas   1st Semi Final
Sao Paulo Pumas   Honey Badger   146   defeated   Buenos Aires Armadillos   Nails   145   1   2013   A   Estadio de River   2nd Preliminary Final
Sao Paulo Pumas   Honey Badger   160   defeated   Mexico City Suns   Maca24   150   10   2013   N2   Melbourne Cricket Ground   Grand Final

Toronto
Finals: 3
Wins: 1

Toronto Wolves   roo boys!   140   defeated   Wellington Warriors   pothead   128   12   2012   A   The Basin Reserve   1st Elimination Final
Toronto Wolves   roo boys!   121   lost to   Buenos Aires Armadillos   PowerBug   140   -19   2012   A   Estadio de River   1st Semi Final
Toronto Wolves   roo boys!   131   lost to   Cairo Sands   MajorLazer/NigeyS   149   -18   2013   A   Borg El Arab Stadium   1st Elimination Final

Wellington
Finals: 1
Wins: 0

Wellington Warriors   pothead   128   lost to   Toronto Wolves   roo boys!   140   -12   2012   H   The Basin Reserve   1st Elimination Final

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 30, 2014, 12:46:27 PM

Highest averaging players in each club's history:

Beijing

Surname   Given   Club   Games   Points   Ave
Swallow   Andrew   Toronto Wolves   18   2025   112.50
Tuck   Shane   ZZ - No longer AFL Listed   18   1980   110.00
Sidebottom   Steele   Mexico City Suns   17   1854   109.06
Grigg   Shaun   Dublin Destroyers   18   1779   98.83
Pearce   Clancee   Cairo Sands   16   1510   94.38

^ None of which actually play for them anymore :/

Berlin

Surname   Given   Club   Games   Points   Ave
Fyfe   Nat   Berlin Brewers   14   1704   121.71
Franklin   Lance   Dublin Destroyers   30   3104   103.47
Zorko   Dayne   Berlin Brewers   16   1623   101.44
Steven   Jack   Berlin Brewers   31   3047   98.29
Wells   Daniel   Berlin Brewers   42   4063   96.74

Buenos Aires

Surname   Given   Club   Games   Points   Ave
Johnson   Steve   Buenos Aires Armadillos   28   3225   115.18
Swan   Dane   Buenos Aires Armadillos   48   5326   110.96
Harvey   Brent   Buenos Aires Armadillos   29   3199   110.31
Barlow   Michael   Buenos Aires Armadillos   30   3269   108.97
Boyd   Matthew   Buenos Aires Armadillos   41   4440   108.29

Cairo

Surname   Given   Club   Games   Points   Ave
Beams   Dayne   Cairo Sands   21   2385   113.57
Prestia   Dion   Cairo Sands   16   1671   104.44
Mumford   Shane   Cairo Sands   27   2745   101.67
Douglas   Richard   Cairo Sands   31   3061   98.74
Smith   Brodie   Cairo Sands   16   1574   98.38


Cape Town
Surname   Given   Club   Games   Points   Ave
Selwood   Joel   Dublin Destroyers   18   2171   120.61
Watson   Jobe   Dublin Destroyers   34   3992   117.41
Kennedy   Josh P   Cape Town Cobras   54   6189   114.61
Cotchin   Trent   Cape Town Cobras   53   5894   111.21
O'Keefe   Ryan   Cape Town Cobras   37   3908   105.62


Dublin
Surname   Given   Club   Games   Points   Ave
Rockliff   Tom   Dublin Destroyers   14   1798   128.43
Selwood   Joel   Dublin Destroyers   31   3543   114.29
Watson   Jobe   Dublin Destroyers   10   1124   112.40
Dal Santo   Nick   Dublin Destroyers   16   1788   111.75
Goldstein   Todd   Dublin Destroyers   33   3581   108.52


London
Surname   Given   Club   Games   Points   Ave
McVeigh   Jarrad   London Royals   50   5169   103.38
Hannebery   Dan   London Royals   28   2875   102.68
Stanton   Brent   London Royals   47   4732   100.68
Breust   Luke   Cairo Sands   11   1042   94.73
Lumumba   Heritier   London Royals   30   2570   85.67


Mexico City
Surname   Given   Club   Games   Points   Ave
McLean   Brock   Toronto Wolves   11   1254   114.00
Sidebottom   Steele   Mexico City Suns   33   3515   106.52
Goddard   Brendon   Mexico City Suns   51   5372   105.33
Maric   Ivan   Mexico City Suns   41   4285   104.51
Foley   Nathan   Wellington Warriors   10   1028   102.80


Moscow
Surname   Given   Club   Games   Points   Ave
Beams   Dayne   Cairo Sands   18   2184   121.33
Ward   Callan   Moscow Spetsnaz   34   3648   107.29
Heppell   Dyson   Moscow Spetsnaz   16   1697   106.06
Griffen   Ryan   Moscow Spetsnaz   30   3148   104.93
Fyfe   Nat   Berlin Brewers   17   1770   104.12


New Delhi
Surname   Given   Club   Games   Points   Ave
Zorko   Dayne   Berlin Brewers   10   1057   105.70
Montagna   Leigh   New Delhi Tigers   30   3119   103.97
Rockliff   Tom   Dublin Destroyers   17   1733   101.94
Dal Santo   Nick   Dublin Destroyers   17   1726   101.53
Duncan   Mitch   New Delhi Tigers   16   1545   96.56

New York
Surname   Given   Club   Games   Points   Ave
Cox   Dean   Buenos Aires Armadillos   17   1892   111.29
Stokes   Matthew   New York Revolution   11   1195   108.64
Treloar   Adam   New York Revolution   14   1507   107.64
Liberatore   Tom   New York Revolution   33   3548   107.52
Prestia   Dion   Cairo Sands   14   1384   98.86


Pacific
Surname   Given   Club   Games   Points   Ave
Judd   Chris   Tokyo Samurai   13   1488   114.46
Rockliff   Tom   Dublin Destroyers   16   1723   107.69
Redden   Jack   Pacific Islanders   13   1340   103.08
Bontempelli   Marcus   Pacific Islanders   3   308   102.67
Petrie   Drew   Buenos Aires Armadillos   17   1687   99.24


PNL
Surname   Given   Club   Games   Points   Ave
Priddis   Matt   PNL Reindeers   47   5022   106.85
Pavlich   Matthew   Mexico City Suns   22   2301   104.59
Jones   Nathan   PNL Reindeers   49   4825   98.47
Rioli   Cyril   PNL Reindeers   38   3662   96.37
Westhoff   Justin   PNL Reindeers   32   3018   94.31


Sao Paulo
Surname   Given   Club   Games   Points   Ave
Ablett   Gary jnr   Sao Paulo Pumas   51   6803   133.39
Sloane   Rory   Sao Paulo Pumas   54   5913   109.50
Minson   Will   Sao Paulo Pumas   52   5387   103.60
Jacobs   Sam   Sao Paulo Pumas   46   4598   99.96
Walker   Andrew   Sao Paulo Pumas   33   3294   99.82


Seoul
Surname   Given   Club   Games   Points   Ave
Dangerfield   Patrick   Seoul Magpies   48   5337   111.19
Deledio   Brett   Wellington Warriors   34   3738   109.94
Swallow   David   Seoul Magpies   16   1697   106.06
McEvoy   Ben   Seoul Magpies   35   3585   102.43
Griffen   Ryan   Moscow Spetsnaz   16   1620   101.25


Tokyo
Surname   Given   Club   Games   Points   Ave
Jack   Kieran   Tokyo Samurai   49   5441   111.04
Miles   Anthony   Tokyo Samurai   7   742   106.00
Mitchell   Sam   Tokyo Samurai   24   2491   103.79
Shuey   Luke   Tokyo Samurai   40   3977   99.43
Selwood   Scott   Tokyo Samurai   40   3933   98.33


Toronto
Surname   Given   Club   Games   Points   Ave
Pendlebury   Scott   Toronto Wolves   50   6213   124.26
Mitchell   Sam   Tokyo Samurai   18   2010   111.67
Hale   David   Buenos Aires Armadillos   18   1795   99.72
Ryder   Paddy   Toronto Wolves   42   4124   98.19
Swallow   Andrew   Toronto Wolves   25   2444   97.76


Wellington
Surname   Given   Club   Games   Points   Ave
Thompson   Scott   Mexico City Suns   18   2035   113.06
Murphy   Marc   Wellington Warriors   44   4621   105.02
Hayes   Lenny   Wellington Warriors   43   4384   101.95
Deledio   Brett   Wellington Warriors   12   1121   93.42
Giles   Jonathan   Cairo Sands   16   1490   93.13




Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on July 30, 2014, 12:57:55 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 30, 2014, 12:46:27 PM
New Delhi
Surname   Given   Club   Games   Points   Ave
Zorko   Dayne   Berlin Brewers   10   1057   105.70
Montagna   Leigh   New Delhi Tigers   30   3119   103.97
Rockliff   Tom   Dublin Destroyers   17   1733   101.94
Dal Santo   Nick   Dublin Destroyers   17   1726   101.53
Duncan   Mitch   New Delhi Tigers   16   1545   96.56
The fact that we once had these players and no longer do makes me sad
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on July 30, 2014, 02:11:17 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 30, 2014, 12:57:55 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 30, 2014, 12:46:27 PM
New Delhi
Surname   Given   Club   Games   Points   Ave
Zorko   Dayne   Berlin Brewers   10   1057   105.70
Montagna   Leigh   New Delhi Tigers   30   3119   103.97
Rockliff   Tom   Dublin Destroyers   17   1733   101.94
Dal Santo   Nick   Dublin Destroyers   17   1726   101.53
Duncan   Mitch   New Delhi Tigers   16   1545   96.56
The fact that we once had these players and no longer do makes me sad

I read that, cried, read it again and cried more. So depressing.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 30, 2014, 04:42:54 PM

Salary Cap

Ok. I've tried to make it simpler (or more streamlined), and taking in all feedback:

- All players you have played less than 10 games over the last 3 years are given a price of $100,000
- All players Average from the last 3 years is multiple by 5,000 (magic number) to get a salary
- Defender salaries are multiplied by 1.05, Rucks by 1.1 and Forwards by 1.15 - To compensate for them scoring less and being less available. Positions based on 2014, if they change for 2015, the salary DOESN'T CHANGE. Just to make it simpler. All defender-midfielders considered defenders, forward-midfielders are forwards, ruck-forwards are rucks and defender-forwards are forward.


The top 20 players in the comp are now:

Surname   Given   Club   SalaryAdj
Ablett   Gary jnr   Sao Paulo Pumas   $672,000
Dangerfield   Patrick   Seoul Magpies   $645,000
Pendlebury   Scott   Toronto Wolves   $627,000
Harvey   Brent   Buenos Aires Armadillos   $589,000
Selwood   Joel   Dublin Destroyers   $589,000
Beams   Dayne   Cairo Sands   $588,000
Cox   Dean   Buenos Aires Armadillos   $580,000
Watson   Jobe   Dublin Destroyers   $579,000
Franklin   Lance   Dublin Destroyers   $575,000
Kennedy   Josh P   Cape Town Cobras   $574,000
Maric   Ivan   Mexico City Suns   $573,000
Goldstein   Todd   Dublin Destroyers   $567,000
Minson   Will   Sao Paulo Pumas   $567,000
Swan   Dane   Buenos Aires Armadillos   $564,000
Riewoldt   Nick   Mexico City Suns   $562,000
Sandilands   Aaron   Mexico City Suns   $561,000
Chapman   Paul   Buenos Aires Armadillos   $560,000
Pavlich   Matthew   Mexico City Suns   $557,000
Martin   Dustin   Moscow Spetsnaz   $557,000
Roughead   Jarryd   Sao Paulo Pumas   $554,000


The Salaries for each team are:

PNL Reindeers   $15,431,000
Toronto Wolves   $15,073,000
Buenos Aires Armadillos   $14,705,000
Mexico City Suns   $14,366,000
Sao Paulo Pumas   $14,354,000
Dublin Destroyers   $14,299,000
London Royals   $14,083,000
Cape Town Cobras   $13,900,000
Tokyo Samurai   $13,715,000
Cairo Sands   $13,697,000
Pacific Islanders   $13,694,000
Wellington Warriors   $13,600,000
Berlin Brewers   $13,522,000
New York Revolution   $13,248,000
Moscow Spetsnaz   $12,981,000
Seoul Magpies   $12,561,000
New Delhi Tigers   $12,172,000
Beijing Thunder   $11,533,000



Average of $13.7m per team. Given all teams will have retirements and delistings, reckon $14m is fine.

I mean, we've already lost these players:

Glass   Darren   Beijing Thunder   $350,000
Clark   Mitch   Berlin Brewers   $443,000
King   Jake   Berlin Brewers   $363,000
Cox   Dean   Buenos Aires Armadillos   $580,000
Scotland   Heath   Buenos Aires Armadillos   $474,000
Bock   Nathan   Cape Town Cobras   $100,000
Bootsma   Joshua   Dublin Destroyers   $215,000
Brown   Jonathan   London Royals   $396,000
Williams   Tom   Moscow Spetsnaz   $306,000
Cassisi   Domenic   New Delhi Tigers   $348,000
Rutten   Ben   New Delhi Tigers   $291,000
Maxwell   Nick   Seoul Magpies   $368,000
Maister   Beau   Seoul Magpies   $285,000
Hayes   Nick   Toronto Wolves   $100,000
Hayes   Lenny   Wellington Warriors   $498,000
Byrnes   Shannon   Wellington Warriors   $309,000

Which is $5.426m, which would bring the average down to about $13.4m just from those, with a promise of many more to come. Happy to discuss though!



So, I'd see it working like this:

Trade Period 1

Our everyday normal trading period. No limits, and if you don't want to care about the salary cap, you don't have to.

First List Lodgements

This is the time where you'd delist any players that are deadwood.

Each club will also have 'Free Agents', players who have played 10 games in Home & Away reserves. If you want to guarantee these players don't get snapped up, you need to increase their salary by 25%. A list of Free agents are attached.

Teams who wish to decrease a player's value can do so here. I.e. Buenos Aires saying 'I want to decrease Swan's salary to $400k'. If any coach wants to pay that price (or any price up to his original salary), Buenos Aires will be forced to either match the maximum bid, keep him at his original price, or let him go (to be compensated with a draft pick).

Free Agency

All delisted players will be up for auction, with a $100,000 minimum reserve.

All players who have played 10 games in Home & Away reserves are up for grabs, unless they have had a 25% pay increase. Again these will go up for auction, with a reserve price of 50% more than current salary (if a player has a salary of $300,000, the bidding starts at $450,000).

Any team who is over the $14m cap, can have players poached until they are UNDER the salary cap. If say PNL are on $14.3m, and other clubs express interest in 4 of its players, PNL can choose which player (or players) they'd be willing to let go to get under the cap. This player (or players) would be also go up for Auction.  PNL would then be compensated with a draft pick (to be worked out).

No team can go over the $14m cap if they are buying players.


Trade Period 2

Again limited restrictions, except this time you can not go over the $14m value. If you are still over this value, you can not trade for more players unless it reduces your salary.

2nd List Lodgements

Final delistings, etc, to determine draft order

Drafts

International, preseason and rookie

3rd Trade Period After Positions are Finalised

Like previous years, only 1 for 1 trades (or 2 for 2, 3 for 3, 4 for 4). Only because of positional changes, and again same salary restrictions apply.




.... I think we've nutted it out?





Current Free Agents

(1 reserves match to go, so these are the players who have played 9 games or more. It will be 10 or more after next round).



Surname   Given   Club   Reserves Matches   SalaryAdj
Carlile   Alipate   Beijing Thunder   10   $307,000
Grimes   Dylan   Berlin Brewers   9   $286,000
Close   Michael   Buenos Aires Armadillos   9   $243,000
Chaplin   Troy   Cairo Sands   16   $393,000
Crowley   Ryan   Cairo Sands   16   $288,000
Laidler   Jeremy   Cairo Sands   13   $313,000
Clarke   Justin   Cairo Sands   13   $306,000
Impey   Jarman   Cairo Sands   13   $282,000
Rowe   Sam   Cairo Sands   12   $353,000
Bennell   Jamie   Cape Town Cobras   14   $250,000
Reid   Sam B   Cape Town Cobras   9   $352,000
Delaney   Luke   Dublin Destroyers   15   $250,000
Frost   Sam   Dublin Destroyers   13   $328,000
Green   Joshua   Dublin Destroyers   11   $346,000
Jetta   Neville   Dublin Destroyers   11   $274,000
Martin   Brodie   Dublin Destroyers   9   $305,000
Brown   Mitchell J   London Royals   14   $227,000
Lonergan   Tom   London Royals   12   $274,000
Tuohy   Zach   London Royals   11   $315,000
Gardiner   Darcy   London Royals   9   $263,000
Blicavs   Mark   Mexico City Suns   14   $358,000
Merrett   Daniel   Mexico City Suns   12   $397,000
Lemmens   Sean   Mexico City Suns   12   $210,000
Firrito   Michael   Mexico City Suns   10   $372,000
Hombsch   Jack   Moscow Spetsnaz   10   $368,000
Bail   Rohan   New Delhi Tigers   14   $302,000
Horlin-Smith   George   New Delhi Tigers   12   $324,000
Cassisi   Domenic   New Delhi Tigers   11   $348,000
Dawson   Zac   New Delhi Tigers   9   $246,000
Schofield   Will   New York Revolution   11   $343,000
Young   Aaron   New York Revolution   10   $230,000
Frost   Jack   Pacific Islanders   16   $291,000
Brown   Luke   Pacific Islanders   13   $299,000
Sheppard   Bradley   Pacific Islanders   13   $289,000
Hurley   Michael   Pacific Islanders   11   $421,000
Stanley   Rhys   Pacific Islanders   11   $337,000
Day   Sam   Pacific Islanders   10   $312,000
Grundy   Heath   PNL Reindeers   12   $373,000
Goldsack   Tyson   PNL Reindeers   11   $344,000
Dawes   Chris   PNL Reindeers   11   $362,000
Casboult   Levi   PNL Reindeers   11   $350,000
Patton   Jonathon   PNL Reindeers   10   $335,000
Merrett   Zachary   PNL Reindeers   10   $348,000
McKenzie   Brad   PNL Reindeers   10   $212,000
Wallis   Mitch   Sao Paulo Pumas   13   $377,000
Stringer   Jake   Sao Paulo Pumas   10   $330,000
Adams   Taylor   Sao Paulo Pumas   10   $367,000
Paparone   Marco   Sao Paulo Pumas   10   $297,000
Macaffer   Brent   Seoul Magpies   13   $289,000
Hocking   Heath   Seoul Magpies   12   $335,000
Keeffe   Lachlan   Seoul Magpies   12   $326,000
Russell   Luke   Seoul Magpies   9   $296,000
Kennedy   Adam   Tokyo Samurai   10   $305,000
Rivers   Jared   Tokyo Samurai   9   $352,000
Jamison   Michael   Toronto Wolves   13   $328,000
Jonas   Thomas   Toronto Wolves   13   $291,000
Shaw   Matt   Toronto Wolves   12   $330,000
Morris   Steven   Toronto Wolves   12   $293,000
Hall   Aaron   Toronto Wolves   11   $351,000
Litherland   Angus   Toronto Wolves   11   $292,000
Morris   Dale   Wellington Warriors   11   $316,000
Thompson   Rory   Wellington Warriors   10   $341,000
Foley   Nathan   Wellington Warriors   9   $396,000

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 30, 2014, 04:51:08 PM
I really like the cap ossie and i don't mind cutting a few of my players to fit under the cap and can see it balancing the comp abit, but is free agency definitely on or are you still floating that idea. Personally im really against free agency.

just because it can hit certain teams harder. I know its bias but Dublin will be hit probably the hardest of any comp. For one I have young players so bottom teams will poach my guys. Someone poaching Todd Goldstein would basically end my team and the only way I can stop it is to cut some of my players who I have built up.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 30, 2014, 04:56:47 PM
All but one of our free agents are or will be defenders next season.

To get something for them, we'd have to retain them (by upping their salary by 25%) and then trade them, is that right?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 30, 2014, 05:00:41 PM
Holz at the moment you are only $300k over, so it would be extremely unlikely that someone would be able to poach Goldstein

As for people poaching depth,  you have the option of keeping any player you want by increasing his salary.  But the point of a cap is so that others can get more depth. Beijing could only field 14 last week
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on July 30, 2014, 05:03:27 PM
Really like this amended version to be honest. Correct me if I read it wrong, but as far as I can see the only players you can lose to poaching are those that you haven't played enough in the seniors, so really won't be missed that much if people take them...

Although in saying that, maybe one other addition to the rule could be that to be free agents they have to be over a certain age, ie 22 or 23. I only say this because in the AFL you only become a free agent once you have been at a club for a while, so would be a bit harsh to lose youngsters who aren't scoring well enough yet to be in the team, but have massive potential. For example from my list Jake Stringer. I see him as a very important part of my future, but since he has only played 2 seasons he's not up to starting each week, but very handy backup. If I was to lose him because he didn't play enough it would be disappointing. I'm sure many teams will also have youngsters in similar positions...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on July 30, 2014, 05:06:09 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 30, 2014, 04:42:54 PM
Grundy   Heath   PNL Reindeers   12   $373,000
Goldsack   Tyson   PNL Reindeers   11   $344,000
Dawes   Chris   PNL Reindeers   11   $362,000
Casboult   Levi   PNL Reindeers   11   $350,000
Patton   Jonathon   PNL Reindeers   10   $335,000
Merrett   Zachary   PNL Reindeers   10   $348,000
McKenzie   Brad   PNL Reindeers   10   $212,000

Considering we want to keep our youngsters in Patton/Merrett, do we have to offer them 25% more to their salary to ensure we keep them. This may be tricky considering we're over the cap already.... Just say we're at 13.9 Mil after the first trading period, going under the 14 mil cap and teams want to grab Casboult/Patton/Merrett in Free Agency who we want to keep, we can't fight them off so we pretty much let them go for like nothing I assume (Just like draft pick consolation but we put in years into Patton and got him for #4) :-\. So letting him go even though we're under the cap would pretty much piss me off :P.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 30, 2014, 05:08:57 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 30, 2014, 05:00:41 PM
Holz at the moment you are only $300k over, so it would be extremely unlikely that someone would be able to poach Goldstein

As for people poaching depth,  you have the option of keeping any player you want by increasing his salary.  But the point of a cap is so that others can get more depth. Beijing could only field 14 last week

ok i get it now.

just a question. Brodie Martin will be playing in my seniors this week (like he did last week) this means he stays on 9 games. Does this also include finals or purely the home and away season becasue i might not play him in my finals squad if i get a few injured players back.

just think that should be the case as some teams arent playing finals so should keep it even. So want to make sure Martin isnt a free agent.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 30, 2014, 05:10:00 PM
Oh, I just read it all again, there's a trade period before the free agency period so we can in fact trade some of our depth. Awesome!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 30, 2014, 05:16:45 PM
Quote from: Honey Badger on July 30, 2014, 05:03:27 PM
Really like this amended version to be honest. Correct me if I read it wrong, but as far as I can see the only players you can lose to poaching are those that you haven't played enough in the seniors, so really won't be missed that much if people take them...

Although in saying that, maybe one other addition to the rule could be that to be free agents they have to be over a certain age, ie 22 or 23. I only say this because in the AFL you only become a free agent once you have been at a club for a while, so would be a bit harsh to lose youngsters who aren't scoring well enough yet to be in the team, but have massive potential. For example from my list Jake Stringer. I see him as a very important part of my future, but since he has only played 2 seasons he's not up to starting each week, but very handy backup. If I was to lose him because he didn't play enough it would be disappointing. I'm sure many teams will also have youngsters in similar positions...

people will need to pay 495k for stringer which is quite alot though so not sure people will do that.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 30, 2014, 05:17:50 PM
Happy to add an age limit also, 21 probably :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on July 30, 2014, 05:21:07 PM
Teams like Beijing and lower down will be able to afford them, especially if suit their long term plans Holz ;).

Think you'll have to enforce an age limit of maybe 22 Oss, just as a way to allow younger guys a few years in the system to mature and start scoring better. If that's the case I don't mind the new system!

Given, that is a heck of a lot of players PNL have to get rid off... 1.4 Mil worth :o.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on July 30, 2014, 05:22:04 PM
That sounds cool Oz :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on July 30, 2014, 05:23:10 PM
by the end of this discussion, bottom teams won't be able to target any quality lol
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 30, 2014, 05:25:10 PM
Yeah just to confirm free agency are any players who have played 10 home and away reserves matches
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 30, 2014, 05:32:06 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 30, 2014, 05:25:10 PM
Yeah just to confirm free agency are any players who have played 10 home and away reserves matches

yay Martin is safe, thats one less for free agency.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on July 30, 2014, 05:34:57 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 30, 2014, 05:17:50 PM
Happy to add an age limit also, 21 probably :)
Yeah 21/22 is probably fair. Just stops people from losing their high draft picks after 1 or 2 seasons when they aren't scoring well yet :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on July 30, 2014, 05:35:45 PM
I like HP Idea that we have an age restriction on players that re to be poached. We draft some players for depth and little do we now that all of a sudden they are playing Seniors because of injury.  In my case did not expect Darcy Gardiner to be playing Seniors this year,

So maybe players under 21 can not be poached and not subject to the 25% increase in salary. Just think that it will effect depth of some teams.

Apart from that is sound and do not mind it.

One clarification say I come to a trade agreement with Dublin for Josh Green does he stay on the free agency or is he removed. Would like to think he is removed. Just strategising here to see whether it is worth trading or holding out hoping to get at auction.  Trading becomes attractive if removed.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 30, 2014, 05:38:03 PM
Quote from: Ringo on July 30, 2014, 05:35:45 PM
One clarification say I come to a trade agreement with Dublin for Josh Green does he stay on the free agency or is he removed. Would like to think he is removed. Just strategising here to see whether it is worth trading or holding out hoping to get at auction.  Trading becomes attractive if removed.

Good point Ringo, always thinking of stuff I've overlooked!

.... Yeah, sounds fair to be removed from free agency I suppose. Can you imagine in the AFL if a player got traded to somewhere and then said 'nah, I'm going again!' lol
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on July 30, 2014, 05:38:26 PM
Seeing as Patton has pretty much been injured for 2 straight seasons, can we get an extra season or two at least considering injury affected youngsters? He's currently 21 but this is pretty much his first season where he's playing more than a handful of games.

Hard life at PNL :(. Have to cut 1.4 Mil from our salary cap not to mention likely having to load up another few $$$ for at least 2 of our players up for free agency :(.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 30, 2014, 05:42:23 PM

Yeah, it is tough for PNL, I agree, but no matter how I arrange the numbers PNL are way out in front for any salary cap :/

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on July 30, 2014, 05:44:22 PM
I've just been PM'd by more than one coach telling me they're interested in Patton... If I can't get special consideration for him, he's going to get poached and nothing we can do about it :(. Despite paying #4 for him and watching him sit out for two straight seasons :'(.

Please Oss, help your love-child team :( :( :(.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on July 30, 2014, 05:45:34 PM
Maybe I'm just a simple man and can't be bothered doing the maths every time I make a trade or assess my list...maybe its the fact I'm sitting a million bucks over the cap. I don't know what it is, but I'm still against this.

I do see the merit behind it, however I just think it would be simpler to stick to current rules. That being said, I do see how the lower sides with not a lot to throw around on the trade table may struggle. That's where their early draft picks can be good trade bait however!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on July 30, 2014, 05:45:50 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on July 30, 2014, 05:44:22 PM
I've just been PM'd by more than one coach telling me they're interested in Patton... If I can't get special consideration for him, he's going to get poached and nothing we can do about it :(. Despite paying #4 for him and watching him sit out for two straight seasons :'(.

Please Oss, help your love-child team :( :( :(.
Considering he turned 21 this year, wouldn't that make him exempt if the age barrier was set at 21, so he couldn't be poached?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on July 30, 2014, 05:50:16 PM
With your Dane Swan example - Nails wants to reduce him to 400k, I offer 600k, but so does another team. What happens from there? Does it become who is happy to pay the most?

Also, can you trade free agents after you acquire them (sign and trade)?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on July 30, 2014, 05:51:43 PM
Quote from: Honey Badger on July 30, 2014, 05:45:50 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on July 30, 2014, 05:44:22 PM
I've just been PM'd by more than one coach telling me they're interested in Patton... If I can't get special consideration for him, he's going to get poached and nothing we can do about it :(. Despite paying #4 for him and watching him sit out for two straight seasons :'(.

Please Oss, help your love-child team :( :( :(.
Considering he turned 21 this year, wouldn't that make him exempt if the age barrier was set at 21, so he couldn't be poached?
Unless it's like only under 21, if it's 21 then it'll work out for us :D.

Given, 1.4 Mil to cut from out team is no easy feat when alot will be in the mid 300k region...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 30, 2014, 06:07:55 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on July 30, 2014, 05:45:34 PM
Maybe I'm just a simple man and can't be bothered doing the maths every time I make a trade or assess my list...maybe its the fact I'm sitting a million bucks over the cap. I don't know what it is, but I'm still against this.

I do see the merit behind it, however I just think it would be simpler to stick to current rules. That being said, I do see how the lower sides with not a lot to throw around on the trade table may struggle. That's where their early draft picks can be good trade bait however!
Not alone there buddy.

I now understand the idea, but I'm still not such a fan.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 30, 2014, 06:17:59 PM
Quote from: Master Q on July 30, 2014, 05:50:16 PM
With your Dane Swan example - Nails wants to reduce him to 400k, I offer 600k, but so does another team. What happens from there? Does it become who is happy to pay the most?

Also, can you trade free agents after you acquire them (sign and trade)?

Yep, whoever offers the most but Nails gets final bid

Once you have them, reckon you can trade them.  But at that players new price

fine, 22 (as in if you turned 22 on January 1 2015 you are free game) as age lol

and we've always had maths with previous system also :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 30, 2014, 06:26:33 PM
Teams who wish to decrease a player's value can do so here. I.e. Buenos Aires saying 'I want to decrease Swan's salary to $400k'. If any coach wants to pay that price (or any price up to his original salary), Buenos Aires will be forced to either match the maximum bid, keep him at his original price, or let him go (to be compensated with a draft pick).


question on this.

say they drop swan from 600 to 400k and someone offers 650k. do they need to match the 650k or just go to the original price of 600k. becasue if its the original shouldnt every team just slash there budgets and worse case they just go back to original price.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 30, 2014, 06:28:47 PM
Good point Holz, yeah its the original price,  but lets set a 'you can only do it 3 times' rule
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on July 30, 2014, 06:39:19 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on July 30, 2014, 05:44:22 PM
I've just been PM'd by more than one coach telling me they're interested in Patton... If I can't get special consideration for him, he's going to get poached and nothing we can do about it :(. Despite paying #4 for him and watching him sit out for two straight seasons :'(.

Please Oss, help your love-child team :( :( :(.

There would be something you could do about it, you could trade him ;)

Just like in the NBA how Minnesota have to trade KLove otherwise he walks into free agency.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on July 30, 2014, 06:59:19 PM
few things i do not like
i do like the idea of say 21 years and under being "safe" for our sake and for the lower teams sake

what i do not like
i understand it is to "even" teams out but considering we don't do alot of trades we get punished for other teams screwing themselves up? (realize half the coaches are gone but as i said in another post trade your draft picks you cannot have both young guns and want better players) (also realize most will then say well i won't get such and such for nothing or what i offer that is the case hench why we don't land a fyfe or a deledio etc etc and that is our problem and our choice)

2nd since obviously weather it is liked or not it seems it will go ahead
i can see especially since i'm deemed difficult to deal with most coaches not dealing with me and simply poaching our players
in trade talks they are basically gonna be like oh you need to cut 1.4 mil so throw in him for extra wait you don't like it?
don't worry we'll just poach him since your over the cap (so again because we don't chop and change our side as much as other teams and choose to be happy with our side rather then trading away everyone we still get screwed again)

3rd even if it does go ahead still like that and people do poach our players
(if patton and merrett are safe it still leaves 2 forwards and 2 defenders from the "free agents" let along what is poached from main list)
so 2nd trade period has trade restrictions i imagine though your allowed to trade for the same position as poached?


like i said i know of at least 4 teams chasing forwards and a few have expressed interest in Dawes and knowing how most hate to deal with me will simply go for the poach approach of that i have no doubt



Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on July 30, 2014, 07:21:34 PM
also can i add that i can guarantee that when it comes to poaching most coaches will not say "oh i bid to poach trent dennis lane or tyson goldsack"

no if we don't trade away a crapload to get under the cap they will say "i want wingard or jones etc"

but that isn't too equal when say beijing (lowest salary atm) go oh instead of trading we will keep pick 4 or 5 or whatever it is and go and steal wingard as well" (i realize we get a pick for compensation but by no means will say pick 5 for wingard all that does is give us back the pick we paid for him but could turn out no good next time or the fact we traded our pick 4 for patton so we were willing to part with picks like they should be doing)

sorry to go on a big rant Oss but basically we get punished for having great depth
but you tell me a team right now who will take a few of our depth packaged say 4 of them for a out and out star?

that is right none and before they say they are not worth a gun if that is the case why do we want to trade them or delist them only to get players that don't play or are worse

again sorry to rant but i have always enjoyed the WXV's the only one i pay attention too (ask HP how much input i have in the euro's side..lol)

and the best thing about this one and all of them is the freedom of them
this feels like hands are being forced imo






Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on July 30, 2014, 07:48:14 PM
i'm being told by HP and Holz only the "free agents" can be poached

but i thought you said if you were over cap then you can be poached which is my point in people not trading since we are so far over
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 30, 2014, 08:04:49 PM
This amended version has my support, at the moment, because the compensation pick system hasn't been nutted out yet, so will hold off giving it my full nod of approval. Also think an age restriction is a good idea.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on July 30, 2014, 08:31:01 PM
Another question when we get to drafts will these players be $100k? Or will rookie draft have their prices discounted,
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 30, 2014, 08:51:30 PM
Hi Daz,

Yeah, it sucks - And I have to agree - the good teams are getting punished for the poor management of other teams. Unfortunately, that's exactly what caps - any kind of cap - is designed to do. So I can't disagree with you there!


Quote from: DazBurg on July 30, 2014, 06:59:19 PM
2nd since obviously weather it is liked or not it seems it will go ahead
i can see especially since i'm deemed difficult to deal with most coaches not dealing with me and simply poaching our players
in trade talks they are basically gonna be like oh you need to cut 1.4 mil so throw in him for extra wait you don't like it?
don't worry we'll just poach him since your over the cap (so again because we don't chop and change our side as much as other teams and choose to be happy with our side rather then trading away everyone we still get screwed again)

Yeah, that's a risk - but any player that gets poached goes to Auction - so teams shouldn't take that risk at all.


Quote from: DazBurg on July 30, 2014, 07:21:34 PM
also can i add that i can guarantee that when it comes to poaching most coaches will not say "oh i bid to poach trent dennis lane or tyson goldsack"

no if we don't trade away a crapload to get under the cap they will say "i want wingard or jones etc"

but that isn't too equal when say beijing (lowest salary atm) go oh instead of trading we will keep pick 4 or 5 or whatever it is and go and steal wingard as well" (i realize we get a pick for compensation but by no means will say pick 5 for wingard all that does is give us back the pick we paid for him but could turn out no good next time or the fact we traded our pick 4 for patton so we were willing to part with picks like they should be doing)

sorry to go on a big rant Oss but basically we get punished for having great depth
but you tell me a team right now who will take a few of our depth packaged say 4 of them for a out and out star?

that is right none and before they say they are not worth a gun if that is the case why do we want to trade them or delist them only to get players that don't play or are worse

again sorry to rant but i have always enjoyed the WXV's the only one i pay attention too (ask HP how much input i have in the euro's side..lol)

and the best thing about this one and all of them is the freedom of them
this feels like hands are being forced imo



Sorry Daz, struggle to follow a lot of that, please let me know if I've misinterpreted anything!

But currently you are $1.431m over the cap. Luke Ball's probably done, that's $412,000 you don't need to worry about. Corey Enright ($481,000) and Luke McPharlin ($398,000) can't be far away from retirement, and if you delisted a couple of players like Trent Dennis-Lane ($258,000) and Matthew Watson ($334,000), trade a Matt Thomas ($388,000) away for a pick or 2.. and suddenly you are $840,000 BELOW the salary cap, which you could use to sure up all your free agents.


Quote from: DazBurg on July 30, 2014, 07:48:14 PM
i'm being told by HP and Holz only the "free agents" can be poached

but i thought you said if you were over cap then you can be poached which is my point in people not trading since we are so far over

No, if you are over the salary cap you can have players poached.

Btw, this is the reason the Pacific and PNL have such large salary caps, have so many forwards/rucks playing for them:

Team, Forwards, Rucks, Forward-Rucks, Total AFL games played:

Poor London's ruck woes... New York have had 48 Forwards play across 18 rounds. Let that seep in!

Team   For   Ruck   For-Ruc   Total
Pacific Islanders   153   31   0   184
PNL Reindeers   146   17   0   163
Mexico City Suns   108   43   0   151
Sao Paulo Pumas   114   42   7   149
Cairo Sands   124   38   16   146
Toronto Wolves   114   21   0   135
Buenos Aires Armadillos   104   44   14   134
Moscow Spetsnaz   88   45   0   133
Tokyo Samurai   97   35   0   132
Cape Town Cobras   118   17   7   128
Berlin Brewers   102   25   3   124
Dublin Destroyers   103   30   13   120
London Royals   120   5   5   120
Wellington Warriors   99   18   0   117
Seoul Magpies   87   9   0   96
Beijing Thunder   79   15   0   94
New Delhi Tigers   68   12   0   80
New York Revolution   48   29   4   73



Quote from: Purple 77 on July 30, 2014, 08:04:49 PM
This amended version has my support, at the moment, because the compensation pick system hasn't been nutted out yet, so will hold off giving it my full nod of approval. Also think an age restriction is a good idea.


Next on the agenda


Quote from: Ringo on July 30, 2014, 08:31:01 PM
Another question when we get to drafts will these players be $100k? Or will rookie draft have their prices discounted,

All players under 10 games from the last 3 years will be $100k, just so I don't go crazy really.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on July 31, 2014, 01:15:43 PM
Its funny that in real life we worry about the top teams poaching all the good players in free agency, but in WXVs its the top teams worried about being poached :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 31, 2014, 04:27:21 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 31, 2014, 01:15:43 PM
Its funny that in real life we worry about the top teams poaching all the good players in free agency, but in WXVs its the top teams worried about being poached :P

To make it more realistic let's change it so the strong teams poach stars on the weaker teams. Who wants to come to Dublin for a premiership?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 31, 2014, 05:00:21 PM
Another thought...

Would people be adverse to naming one key (I.e. tall) defender or forward as a dual position ruck? The catch being they would score at 75% whether or not they play ruck or forward/defence.

So Chris Dawes is named a forward next year.  But PNL name him a ruckman also. So if he scores 100 he'd only get 75 in either forward or ruck
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 31, 2014, 05:01:51 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 31, 2014, 05:00:21 PM
Another thought...

Would people be adverse to naming one key (I.e. tall) defender or forward as a dual position ruck? The catch being they would score at 75% whether or not they play ruck or forward/defence.

So Chris Dawes is named a forward next year.  But PNL name him a ruckman also. So if he scores 100 he'd only get 75 in either forward or ruck
I do like it if we are starting a new comp but since this is established its a little unfair to teams that have worked hard to get a ruck and completely devalues back up rucks who score like 50-70.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 31, 2014, 05:09:13 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 31, 2014, 05:01:51 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 31, 2014, 05:00:21 PM
Another thought...

Would people be adverse to naming one key (I.e. tall) defender or forward as a dual position ruck? The catch being they would score at 75% whether or not they play ruck or forward/defence.

So Chris Dawes is named a forward next year.  But PNL name him a ruckman also. So if he scores 100 he'd only get 75 in either forward or ruck
I do like it if we are starting a new comp but since this is established its a little unfair to teams that have worked hard to get a ruck and completely devalues back up rucks who score like 50-70.

not really,  I doubt you'd give a 90 averaging defender this. It would be more the 50 to 70 averaging defenders/forwards,  meaning the back up rucks would still be preferential.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 31, 2014, 06:07:25 PM
I'd back away from that idea, but love the creative thinking oz.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 31, 2014, 06:13:31 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 31, 2014, 06:07:25 PM
I'd back away from that idea, but love the creative thinking oz.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on July 31, 2014, 07:32:40 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 31, 2014, 04:27:21 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 31, 2014, 01:15:43 PM
Its funny that in real life we worry about the top teams poaching all the good players in free agency, but in WXVs its the top teams worried about being poached :P
To make it more realistic let's change it so the strong teams poach stars on the weaker teams. Who wants to come to Dublin for a premiership?

Hah, well they'd be waiting some time... #Dublinhacks #bunchofspuds
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on July 31, 2014, 08:22:27 PM
What about a lottery like the NBA for the bottom 10 draft picks?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on July 31, 2014, 08:50:58 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on July 31, 2014, 08:22:27 PM
What about a lottery like the NBA for the bottom 10 draft picks?
You're joking right
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 09, 2014, 10:48:16 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 09, 2014, 09:21:24 AM
OK, so I FINALLY have time to get stuck into XV and get myself up to speed, however I am looking for some assistance please

I've read the thread by c4v3m4n about the rules and that all makes sense. Really good thread for newcomers to XV, but besides that thread there is nothing else I can EASILY find that explains so many other things that I have no idea about

World Idol: I cannot find a definition of what it is and how it works
Rising Star and Team of The Week: Pretty self explanatory, but are there any benefits/rewards to the winners? Or is it just a nice to know sort of thing?
Seniors vs Reserves: Are these two completely different leagues coached by different people?
There are so many different "Cups" and leagues I cant get my head around what is what. Even a V league too or whatever that is?

I guess I just thought Worlds was where we get a team, manage our own list and it has its own scoring system and rules, but there seems like there is so much more and not one central location to read/learn about everything  :-\

Gonna try and do this myself and Oss can correct anything I have wrong or add anything I've missed. Kinda doing it for my own good to make sure I know what everything is too.  :P

World Idol: Kinda based on the idea of 'Australian Idol' and we couldn't think of a better name. Basically is a knockout competition. Lowest scoring WXVs team each week says goodbye and the top scoring teams gets 'immunity' so they can't be eliminated the next week (it's unlikely to begin with but it's a nice get out of jail free card).

Rising Star and Team of the Week: No prizes as such, just kinda good for coaches to have a little brag and celebrate their players either getting a nomination or selected in the team of the week. Rising Star is the same rules as the AFL one, but obviously factoring in SC scores. TotW is the best 15 players each week. Can't remember how the coach is selected - it's either the coach of the highest scoring team of the week or the coach with the most players in the TotW.

Seniors and Reserves: Seniors are the main teams that everyone coaches weekly and the main competition itself, the reserves is basically just all your 'depth' players each week who aren't in the XV you name and that plays. Obviously, some teams have better depth than others (see: PNL) and others have little to no depth depending on teams (see: Beijing). It's good fun to cheer your reserves team, especially if your seniors aren't doing too flash.

Cups: All the little cups and stuff have been established since the first season and are just added in there as an extra thing for banter and for teams who may not necessarily be in the premiership race, they'll still have a shot at something. For example, pretty sure Tokyo took out Asia.

V-League: It's a separate little competition that Oss has run this year where there are 10 teams who select 10 players in an auction style (like the IPL). You field 5 each week. Best 5 teams stay in the competition for the following season.

I think that's it.  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 09, 2014, 11:28:39 AM

Perfect :)

The coach of the week is the highest scoring coach
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 09, 2014, 11:42:52 AM
Thanks heaps Nigey, I really appreciate that :)

So, from my perspective, being a new coach to all of this what would you say are the important things I need to be aware of, and stay on top off?

My initial thoughts are just around building and focussing on our team, and competing in the main senior league. Obviously the draft/s are coming up too so we will need to be active there, but is there anything else besides that?

I don't need to be actively aware of things like Idol, other leagues, Totw etc etc. They are more or less just "extras".

Would that be fair to say?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: AaronKirk on August 09, 2014, 11:48:58 AM
That would be fair to say RD.

All we need to focus on at the moment is selecting our best team possible (for Americas this week) and planning for the trade period/draft.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 09, 2014, 12:43:45 PM
Yeh RD I guess these are the main things people would focus on with a new team/joining. The other stuff just comes along and you can deal with it then

- Organising your team thread. Most teams are all pretty similar so its easy to do
- Posting your team each week
- When drafts come along, just being active so you can take your picks
- Trading will be pretty big soon so you should expect lots of PM's lol.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on August 09, 2014, 01:40:35 PM
Pretty much what Rico said. Just focus on building your XV with some depth through trading/drafting. For all the other cups, just added little things for during the season.

Ossie handles all the stats and organisational stuff which a fair bit of world for an ordinary mortal like ourselves ;). He does quite a heck of work to get things running and gotta tip my hat to him!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 09, 2014, 01:58:55 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 09, 2014, 11:28:39 AM
Perfect :)
Finally an A+ student.  ;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 09, 2014, 02:01:35 PM
AK, Rico & HP - Cheers guys, I feel much more knowledgeable now. Looking forward to the trade period!

Thanks again all :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 09, 2014, 02:22:13 PM
Thought I'd put it out there, that, even in my quest for forwards in the trading period, Dayne Zorko is available for trade.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 09, 2014, 03:32:28 PM
Royals may be interested ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: AaronKirk on August 09, 2014, 04:12:13 PM
Send me a PM Purps. We may be able to come to a deal  :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on August 09, 2014, 04:58:34 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 09, 2014, 02:22:13 PM
Thought I'd put it out there, that, even in my quest for forwards in the trading period, Dayne Zorko is available for trade.
Lachie Henderson of any interest? :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 09, 2014, 04:59:51 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on August 09, 2014, 04:58:34 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 09, 2014, 02:22:13 PM
Thought I'd put it out there, that, even in my quest for forwards in the trading period, Dayne Zorko is available for trade.
Lachie Henderson of any interest? :P
I'll take them both, cheers.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 10, 2014, 08:28:01 AM
Any chance the team graphics here can get updated to reflect who is coaching who?

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,51596.0.html

Or is there any other place that lists all the teams and who is coaching who?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 10, 2014, 08:28:46 AM
Happy for volunteers rd :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torp on August 10, 2014, 09:36:29 AM
Isn't that thread locked?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 10, 2014, 11:31:54 AM
Quote from: Torp on August 10, 2014, 09:36:29 AM
Isn't that thread locked?
Yes, it is. But Oss is a moderator and can edit it.  :P

For RD:

Beijing - Master Q and Toga
Berlin - Purple 77
Buenos Aires - Nails
Cairo - NigeyS and MajorLazer
Cape Town - My Chumps
Dublin - Holzman
London - Ringo
Mexico - JROO8
Moscow - Jukes
New Delhi - elephants (and Ricochet?)
New York - AaronKirk (and RaisyDaisy?)
Pacific - Jayman and tbagrocks
PNL - Hellopplz
Sao Paulo - Honey Badger
Seoul - JBs-Hawks
Tokyo - kilbluff1985 and Boomz
Toronto - roo boys!
Wellington - pothead

As for updating the graphic, if I can do it in Paint, I'll try.  :P Not sure about putting in new logos though haha.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on August 10, 2014, 11:37:29 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 10, 2014, 11:31:54 AM
Quote from: Torp on August 10, 2014, 09:36:29 AM
Isn't that thread locked?
Yes, it is. But Oss is a moderator and can edit it.  :P

For RD:

Beijing - Master Q and Toga
Berlin - Purple 77
Buenos Aires - Nails - Assistant Vinny
Cairo - NigeyS and MajorLazer
Cape Town - My Chumps - Assistant Memphistopheles
Dublin - Holzman
London - Ringo
Mexico - JROO8
Moscow - Jukes (isn't Torps Co -coach or just Assistant?)
New Delhi - elephants (and Ricochet?)
New York - AaronKirk (and RaisyDaisy?)
Pacific - Jayman and tbagrocks
PNL - Hellopplz - Assistant DazBurg and J959
Sao Paulo - Honey Badger
Seoul - JBs-Hawks
Tokyo - kilbluff1985 and Boomz
Toronto - roo boys!
Wellington - pothead

As for updating the graphic, if I can do it in Paint, I'll try.  :P Not sure about putting in new logos though haha.
reckon it doesn't hurt to try and get all the assistants in as i find in trade period coaches talk to their assistant before making a decision so easier to include all parties in pm i find  ;)

not sure if i missed any but added ones are in bold
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 10, 2014, 11:51:41 AM
Thanks again Nigey, and yes I am co-coach with AK now :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 10, 2014, 11:59:34 AM
This should do :)

(http://i.imgur.com/wqF05Sd.jpg)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on August 10, 2014, 12:10:33 PM
We need a complete makeover (being the Thunder and all  :P )
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 10, 2014, 12:15:45 PM
Yep Ele and I are co-coaches
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on August 10, 2014, 12:33:51 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 10, 2014, 12:15:45 PM
Yep Ele and I are co-coaches
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on August 10, 2014, 12:47:12 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 10, 2014, 12:33:51 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 10, 2014, 12:15:45 PM
Yep Ele and I are co-coaches
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on August 10, 2014, 12:50:25 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on August 10, 2014, 11:37:29 AM
Yes, it is. But Oss is a moderator and can edit it.  :P

For RD:

Beijing - Master Q and Toga
Berlin - Purple 77
Buenos Aires - Nails - Assistant Vinny  AND NRICH102
Cairo - NigeyS and MajorLazer
Cape Town - My Chumps - Assistant Memphistopheles
Dublin - Holzman
London - Ringo
Mexico - JROO8
Moscow - Jukes (isn't Torps Co -coach or just Assistant?)
New Delhi - elephants (and Ricochet?)
New York - AaronKirk (and RaisyDaisy?)
Pacific - Jayman and tbagrocks
PNL - Hellopplz - Assistant DazBurg and J959
Sao Paulo - Honey Badger
Seoul - JBs-Hawks
Tokyo - kilbluff1985 and Boomz
Toronto - roo boys!
Wellington - pothead
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on August 10, 2014, 01:10:06 PM
Quote from: Master Q on August 10, 2014, 12:47:12 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 10, 2014, 12:33:51 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 10, 2014, 12:15:45 PM
Yep Ele and I are co-coaches

Haha way to confuse erryone
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on August 10, 2014, 01:16:07 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 09, 2014, 02:22:13 PM
Thought I'd put it out there, that, even in my quest for forwards in the trading period, Dayne Zorko is available for trade.
Good to see some trade talks, to keep us non-finalists entertained  ;D

Pick 1 is available. PM if interested. May be wiling to package it with Jack Martin for a gun mid.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on August 10, 2014, 01:23:14 PM
Quote from: Jayman on August 10, 2014, 01:16:07 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 09, 2014, 02:22:13 PM
Thought I'd put it out there, that, even in my quest for forwards in the trading period, Dayne Zorko is available for trade.
Good to see some trade talks, to keep us non-finalists entertained  ;D

Pick 1 is available. PM if interested. May be wiling to package it with Jack Martin for a gun mid.
now your willing to part with martin  :P

but seriously over at PNL (since it seems we are about to be knocked out of the finals)
we have some serious cap problems people's so i see alot of teams needing forward and we have the likes of dawes and Tom T Lynch among other players

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,72900.0.html

patton will not be leaving the reindeers though as i know most are trying to eye him off on the cheap :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on August 10, 2014, 01:25:40 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on August 10, 2014, 01:23:14 PM
Quote from: Jayman on August 10, 2014, 01:16:07 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 09, 2014, 02:22:13 PM
Thought I'd put it out there, that, even in my quest for forwards in the trading period, Dayne Zorko is available for trade.
Good to see some trade talks, to keep us non-finalists entertained  ;D

Pick 1 is available. PM if interested. May be wiling to package it with Jack Martin for a gun mid.
now your willing to part with martin  :P
For the right price ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 10, 2014, 01:38:35 PM

Hey all - just sent this to Jayman/tbagrocks


QuoteHey guys,

Received a heap of comments and objections over the recent decision regarding the Pacific Islanders selection issue. That and given tbags comments implying that the rules aren't well known and an attitude suggesting that the Islanders will only try their best when they have a better team, it was decided to put things to a vote.

Of the 15 coaches that voted (2 did not vote), 11 voted that the Islanders should be given a sanction. It was then decided by the 15 coaches that sanction should be the loss of Pick 3.

I know this is a sensitive issue, and am happy to discuss. Will post this decision in the discussion thread, but I encourage all to be civil, and don't be antagonistic or personal in comments.

Oz


No antagonistic or personal comments guys. Seriously. Let's move on.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jukes on August 10, 2014, 01:43:00 PM
I reckon pretty poor form by pacific, but it's in the past now and let's just get over it and get on with finals!

Quote from: NigeyS on August 10, 2014, 11:31:54 AM
Quote from: Torp on August 10, 2014, 09:36:29 AM
Isn't that thread locked?
Yes, it is. But Oss is a moderator and can edit it.  :P

For RD:

Beijing - Master Q and Toga
Berlin - Purple 77
Buenos Aires - Nails
Cairo - NigeyS and MajorLazer
Cape Town - My Chumps
Dublin - Holzman
London - Ringo
Mexico - JROO8
Moscow - Jukes AND TORP
New Delhi - elephants (and Ricochet?)
New York - AaronKirk (and RaisyDaisy?)
Pacific - Jayman and tbagrocks
PNL - Hellopplz
Sao Paulo - Honey Badger
Seoul - JBs-Hawks
Tokyo - kilbluff1985 and Boomz
Toronto - roo boys!
Wellington - pothead

As for updating the graphic, if I can do it in Paint, I'll try.  :P Not sure about putting in new logos though haha.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 10, 2014, 01:43:30 PM
Presuming we all just move up in the draft order and they still have a priority pick?  :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 10, 2014, 01:45:22 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 10, 2014, 01:43:30 PM
Presuming we all just move up in the draft order and they still have a priority pick?  :)

Pick order currently:

Priority:
1. Pacific
2. Beijing

Round 1:
3. Beijing
4. New Delhi
5. Wellington
6. New York
7. Tokyo
8. Seoul
9. London
10. Berlin
11. Cairo
12-19 (Finalists)

Round 2:
20. Pacific
21. Beijing
etc..
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 10, 2014, 01:47:42 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 10, 2014, 01:45:22 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 10, 2014, 01:43:30 PM
Presuming we all just move up in the draft order and they still have a priority pick?  :)

Pick order currently:

Priority:
1. Pacific
2. Beijing

Round 1:
3. Beijing
4. New Delhi
5. Wellington
6. New York
7. Tokyo
8. Seoul
9. London
10. Berlin
11. Cairo
12-19 (Finalists)

Round 2:
20. Pacific
21. Beijing
etc..
Yep, thought so.

Cheers for that Oss.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on August 10, 2014, 01:48:47 PM
What's the punishment here?

Tank to get Pick 1 and the sanction is loss of Pick 3. Goal achieved.

Just wanted to add that, but the sanction has already been decided so I guess I'm moving on too  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 10, 2014, 01:51:28 PM
Quote from: Master Q on August 10, 2014, 01:48:47 PM
What's the punishment here?

Tank to get Pick 1 and the sanction is loss of Pick 3. Goal achieved.

Just wanted to add that, but the sanction has already been decided so I guess I'm moving on too  :P
Glad I'm not the only one who thought this.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on August 10, 2014, 01:54:03 PM
Quote from: Master Q on August 10, 2014, 01:48:47 PM
What's the punishment here?

Tank to get Pick 1 and the sanction is loss of Pick 3. Goal achieved.

Just wanted to add that, but the sanction has already been decided so I guess I'm moving on too  :P
nah i think it is ok almost too harsh

before everyone flies off the handle
it is pick 3 we are talking about a pretty decent pick and yeah they did seem to tank but then trying to trade harry taylor for pick 1 last trade period could be seen as not improving your side for the current system imo Q
(not having a direct dig at you just saying)

if they didn't lose and get picm 1 what would they have instead pick 2 and 3?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on August 10, 2014, 01:59:02 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on August 10, 2014, 01:54:03 PM
Quote from: Master Q on August 10, 2014, 01:48:47 PM
What's the punishment here?

Tank to get Pick 1 and the sanction is loss of Pick 3. Goal achieved.

Just wanted to add that, but the sanction has already been decided so I guess I'm moving on too  :P
nah i think it is ok almost too harsh

before everyone flies off the handle
it is pick 3 we are talking about a pretty decent pick and yeah they did seem to tank but then trying to trade harry taylor for pick 1 last trade period could be seen as not improving your side for the current system imo Q
(not having a direct dig at you just saying)

if they didn't lose and get picm 1 what would they have instead pick 2 and 3?

"then trying to trade harry taylor for pick 1 last trade period could be seen as not improving your side for the current system imo Q"

The reason that got blocked is because coaches thought we were ripping off Pot. So if that is seen as not improving our side (confused by that as well), well ok then, but that has nothing to do with tanking DURING the season.

If they got Pick 1 fairly, they would also have 3. We would have 2 and 4.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on August 10, 2014, 02:03:33 PM
Quote from: Master Q on August 10, 2014, 01:59:02 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on August 10, 2014, 01:54:03 PM
Quote from: Master Q on August 10, 2014, 01:48:47 PM
What's the punishment here?

Tank to get Pick 1 and the sanction is loss of Pick 3. Goal achieved.

Just wanted to add that, but the sanction has already been decided so I guess I'm moving on too  :P
nah i think it is ok almost too harsh

before everyone flies off the handle
it is pick 3 we are talking about a pretty decent pick and yeah they did seem to tank but then trying to trade harry taylor for pick 1 last trade period could be seen as not improving your side for the current system imo Q
(not having a direct dig at you just saying)

if they didn't lose and get picm 1 what would they have instead pick 2 and 3?

"then trying to trade harry taylor for pick 1 last trade period could be seen as not improving your side for the current system imo Q"

The reason that got blocked is because coaches thought we were ripping off Pot. So if that is seen as not improving our side (confused by that as well), well ok then, but that has nothing to do with tanking DURING the season.

If they got Pick 1 fairly, they would also have 3. We would have 2 and 4.

no i meant if they finished 2nd last they would of got 2 and 4 then
so they have been punished and you may say oh they still get pick 1
i can tell you now i'd rather 2 and 4 then just 1 by itself

so my point is losing pick 3 is massive imo
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on August 10, 2014, 02:10:26 PM
i think it should of been a 2nd round pick as i really do not think it was that clear cut that
it was like
"oh look if we tank we get pick 1 imo"

but i will stop posting about it now as Ossie did say let's move on so sorry Ossman
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on August 10, 2014, 02:32:45 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on August 10, 2014, 02:10:26 PM
i think it should of been a 2nd round pick as i really do not think it was that clear cut that
it was like
"oh look if we tank we get pick 1 imo"

This.

I think that the vote was bias anyway, because clubs want to move their draft picks up.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on August 10, 2014, 02:58:07 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 10, 2014, 01:38:35 PM
Seriously. Let's move on.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on August 10, 2014, 03:04:43 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 10, 2014, 02:58:07 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 10, 2014, 01:38:35 PM
Seriously. Let's move on.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on August 10, 2014, 03:32:29 PM
Quote from: Master Q on August 10, 2014, 12:10:33 PM
We need a complete makeover (being the Thunder and all  :P )
i'm not too good with photoshop especially compared to some around here but for now

(http://i.imgur.com/qdkt4XU.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/t8cZtM8.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/BcdfiJE.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/3o3kzv3.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/moC8wVb.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/I2pw07M.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/u8Q8K5C.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/7xyS6GB.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/GZ8Ms9n.png)


all i've done is taken current ones and changed names nothing else
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: tbagrocks on August 10, 2014, 05:44:39 PM
We could have utilized every rule, named every player who scores each week, still finish bottom three

so what the frog is the problem? We underestimate one player and forget to name another once and we are crucified?

Team was going to finish near bottom anyway, what's the problem here?

         :o
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 10, 2014, 05:46:48 PM
Quote from: Toga on August 10, 2014, 03:04:43 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 10, 2014, 02:58:07 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 10, 2014, 01:38:35 PM
Seriously. Let's move on.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torp on August 10, 2014, 05:47:15 PM
Amazing work Daz!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: tbagrocks on August 10, 2014, 06:14:31 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 10, 2014, 05:46:48 PM
Quote from: Toga on August 10, 2014, 03:04:43 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 10, 2014, 02:58:07 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 10, 2014, 01:38:35 PM
Seriously. Let's move on.
No let us not, pay attention to what I just said above firstly
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on August 10, 2014, 08:22:13 PM
On another note, lots of depth up for grabs at Toronto this off season.

Looking to do a lot of 2-3 players for 1 type deals using some of my fringe guys.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on August 10, 2014, 08:22:52 PM

Well tough, life isnt fair and thats how things are done in worlds. Dont like it, well then dont be a coach. Oh wait  ::)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 10, 2014, 08:31:33 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on August 10, 2014, 08:29:15 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 10, 2014, 08:22:52 PM

Well tough, life isnt fair and thats how things are done in worlds. Dont like it, well then dont be a coach. Oh wait  ::)
Bummer, I had my money on kb as the first person to make a mockery of me. No need to get aggressive, I'm just calling what I see.
Aggressive is the preferred style of a lot of people around these parts.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on August 10, 2014, 08:33:11 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 10, 2014, 08:31:33 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on August 10, 2014, 08:29:15 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 10, 2014, 08:22:52 PM

Well tough, life isnt fair and thats how things are done in worlds. Dont like it, well then dont be a coach. Oh wait  ::)
Bummer, I had my money on kb as the first person to make a mockery of me. No need to get aggressive, I'm just calling what I see.
Aggressive is the preferred style of a lot of people around these parts.  :P
OH SHUT UP NIGEY

:P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 10, 2014, 08:33:59 PM
Sensible solution PB, and it just might be the way to go...

Criticized for not acting, criticized for acting... If I piss off everyone I must be doing something right hey?

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 10, 2014, 08:48:55 PM
Quote from: Master Q on August 10, 2014, 08:33:11 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 10, 2014, 08:31:33 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on August 10, 2014, 08:29:15 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 10, 2014, 08:22:52 PM

Well tough, life isnt fair and thats how things are done in worlds. Dont like it, well then dont be a coach. Oh wait  ::)
Bummer, I had my money on kb as the first person to make a mockery of me. No need to get aggressive, I'm just calling what I see.
Aggressive is the preferred style of a lot of people around these parts.  :P
OH SHUT UP NIGEY

:P
Case in point.  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: tbagrocks on August 10, 2014, 08:50:34 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on August 10, 2014, 05:44:39 PM
Team was going to finish near bottom anyway, what's the problem here?

         :o
Forgetting we were actually bad to begin with? ::)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on August 10, 2014, 08:52:00 PM
Near bottom is not the same as bottom tbag.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 10, 2014, 08:52:11 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on August 10, 2014, 08:50:34 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on August 10, 2014, 05:44:39 PM
Team was going to finish near bottom anyway, what's the problem here?

         :o

Tbag priority picks and positions are important
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on August 10, 2014, 08:54:10 PM
Trying to keep my nose out of this as much as possible but just wanted to say;

Tbag, one of the reasons you're in a bit of trouble is because you're publicising your lack of care for the team this year because you were near the bottom and uncompetitive... You're not really making your point here :-X
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 10, 2014, 08:58:18 PM
Quote from: Toga on August 10, 2014, 08:54:10 PM
Tbag, one of the reasons you're in a bit of trouble is because you're publicising your lack of care for the team this year because you were near the bottom and uncompetitive... You're not really making your point here :-X
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jukes on August 10, 2014, 08:58:25 PM
Sorta related, I reckon we should sort the bottom 8's picks by points scored not position. NDT scored 100 points (5%) less than Pacific and Wellington but got lucky and won a game more. They should get pick 1 as they obviously need it more (i.e. playing Zac Dawson in their backline).

Not even bias.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on August 10, 2014, 08:58:54 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on August 10, 2014, 08:20:44 PM
Due to having posted on this thread at an earlier time, it pops up in my unread posts sections. Having stayed clear of this I thought I'd mention something I think was not done quite right.

Imagine a person is on trial for murder. Would it be fair if the victim's relatives made up the entire jury, and also the judge? The person would be found guilty and given the highest charge automatically, clearly not how things work.

I look at this situation, and I see a similar thing. The people affected by the ruling of this decision got to vote, and also decide on the length of the penalty, similar to the jury and the judge thing I have above.

I do not think the right process has been made to come to a decision here, completely impartial members should be given the story and then an executive decision should be made from there.
This is the exact reason I am upset. The people deciding our fate can benefit greatly from the outcome. That's not right.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 10, 2014, 09:03:37 PM
I too have been trying to keep out of it as still do not believe deliberate tanking was involved.

I have inadvertently left players out when naming a team due to my stupidity in forgetting them.  Also and I will use Brisbane as an example and i do have a number of the teenagers on my lists if Brisbane was playing Sydney I would not name Gardiner in defence as an example due to the opposition even though he may have been my best performing defender over the last 3 weeks.

Just using that to point out it is not as straight forward as it seems and some coaches name teams based on the opposition not their best team each week. 

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 10, 2014, 09:06:25 PM
Quote from: Jukes on August 10, 2014, 08:58:25 PM
Sorta related, I reckon we should sort the bottom 8's picks by points scored not position. NDT scored 100 points (5%) less than Pacific and Wellington but got lucky and won a game more. They should get pick 1 as they obviously need it more (i.e. playing Zac Dawson in their backline).

Not even bias.
Again, sorta related. I was saying the other day (I think it was in AXVs) that luck plays a decent part in these comps. This is a pretty good example.

I daresay that Beijing and NDT need the top pick/priority picks more than Pacific/Wellington.

So yeah, I agree with Jukes' notion. 
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: tbagrocks on August 10, 2014, 09:12:58 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 10, 2014, 08:58:18 PM
Quote from: Toga on August 10, 2014, 08:54:10 PM
Tbag, one of the reasons you're in a bit of trouble is because you're publicising your lack of care for the team this year because you were near the bottom and uncompetitive... You're not really making your point here :-X
No that is an assumption, how is it bad to name the best team each week realizing we might be up against it? So need to name the best team each week to be competitive? ???
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on August 10, 2014, 09:21:09 PM
No that's not what I meant tbag. It's more things like saying that you don't care about all the rule changes etc because they were for "nerds" and you didn't have any interest in looking at using them
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: tbagrocks on August 10, 2014, 09:26:09 PM
Quote from: Toga on August 10, 2014, 09:21:09 PM
No that's not what I meant tbag. It's more things like saying that you don't care about all the rule changes etc because they were for "nerds" and you didn't have any interest in looking at using them
Ok am sorry for the nerd comment, out of line, but

even if we followed every rule to a tee, still finish bottom or close, so really, when we can be competitive, if then we fail we should be looked at, not whilst we are still poor ::)

So really, haven't done anything wrong other than offend the nerds ??? ( Sorry btw) That will never stand up in any court
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on August 10, 2014, 09:32:57 PM
I haven't paid any attention to this, but I say sack both coaches.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on August 10, 2014, 09:37:37 PM
Quote from: whatlez on August 10, 2014, 09:32:57 PM
I haven't paid any attention to this, but I say sack both coaches.
Well if you haven't paid any attention how about you refrain from making ridiculous comments?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on August 10, 2014, 11:07:32 PM
Quote from: Jayman on August 10, 2014, 09:37:37 PM
Quote from: whatlez on August 10, 2014, 09:32:57 PM
I haven't paid any attention to this, but I say sack both coaches.
Well if you haven't paid any attention how about you refrain from making ridiculous comments?
Yeah well from observations from other comps, both you and tbag are very active, and between you two, the fact that you cannot name proper sides then the appropriate ruling should be made. Whether it is to get dedicated coaches over lazy coaches who are waiting for the next year or lose draft picks, something should be done to people who don't give a shower.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on August 10, 2014, 11:28:07 PM
Boy oh boy, some people seem more intent on stoking the fire than coming to a reasonable solution...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 11, 2014, 08:22:33 AM
Quote from: whatlez on August 10, 2014, 11:07:32 PM
Quote from: Jayman on August 10, 2014, 09:37:37 PM
Quote from: whatlez on August 10, 2014, 09:32:57 PM
I haven't paid any attention to this, but I say sack both coaches.
Well if you haven't paid any attention how about you refrain from making ridiculous comments?
Yeah well from observations from other comps, both you and tbag are very active, and between you two, the fact that you cannot name proper sides then the appropriate ruling should be made. Whether it is to get dedicated coaches over lazy coaches who are waiting for the next year or lose draft picks, something should be done to people who don't give a shower.
If you've been paying attention to AXVs then you'd know Jay's barely been around and really only named his team each week on either Thursday or Friday when needed and the only reason he did that was because he doesn't have a co-coach or assistant to delegate to over there.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 11, 2014, 09:33:03 AM
Quote from: Toga on August 10, 2014, 03:04:43 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 10, 2014, 02:58:07 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 10, 2014, 01:38:35 PM
Seriously. Let's move on.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on August 11, 2014, 10:35:59 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 10, 2014, 08:33:59 PM
Sensible solution PB, and it just might be the way to go...

Criticized for not acting, criticized for acting... If I piss off everyone I must be doing something right hey?

doing a fantastic job Ossman never forget that mate
much appreciated  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 11, 2014, 10:44:24 AM
So hard to not be part of the conversation  :-X

but

Quote from: Ricochet on August 11, 2014, 09:33:03 AM
Quote from: Toga on August 10, 2014, 03:04:43 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 10, 2014, 02:58:07 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 10, 2014, 01:38:35 PM
Seriously. Let's move on.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: MajorLazer on August 11, 2014, 11:21:35 AM
Quote from: DazBurg on August 11, 2014, 10:35:59 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 10, 2014, 08:33:59 PM
Sensible solution PB, and it just might be the way to go...

Criticized for not acting, criticized for acting... If I piss off everyone I must be doing something right hey?

doing a fantastic job Ossman never forget that mate
much appreciated  ;)
Too right. Thank you very much Os.  :D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on August 11, 2014, 12:08:20 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 11, 2014, 08:22:33 AM
Quote from: whatlez on August 10, 2014, 11:07:32 PM
Quote from: Jayman on August 10, 2014, 09:37:37 PM
Quote from: whatlez on August 10, 2014, 09:32:57 PM
I haven't paid any attention to this, but I say sack both coaches.
Well if you haven't paid any attention how about you refrain from making ridiculous comments?
Yeah well from observations from other comps, both you and tbag are very active, and between you two, the fact that you cannot name proper sides then the appropriate ruling should be made. Whether it is to get dedicated coaches over lazy coaches who are waiting for the next year or lose draft picks, something should be done to people who don't give a shower.
If you've been paying attention to AXVs then you'd know Jay's barely been around and really only named his team each week on either Thursday or Friday when needed and the only reason he did that was because he doesn't have a co-coach or assistant to delegate to over there.
Then two teams might be too much.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on August 11, 2014, 12:29:39 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 11, 2014, 09:33:03 AM
Quote from: Toga on August 10, 2014, 03:04:43 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 10, 2014, 02:58:07 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 10, 2014, 01:38:35 PM
Seriously. Let's move on.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on August 11, 2014, 05:22:34 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 11, 2014, 12:29:39 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 11, 2014, 09:33:03 AM
Quote from: Toga on August 10, 2014, 03:04:43 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 10, 2014, 02:58:07 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 10, 2014, 01:38:35 PM
Seriously. Let's move on.
Once there's been a fair, unbiased ruling then sure let's move on. But until this has been properly dealt with then we have every right to protest. I'm sure you would to if you lost a top 3 pick.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on August 11, 2014, 05:52:40 PM
I love how the recent ones to quote that all benefit greatly from the stripping of picks from Pacific :P.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on August 11, 2014, 05:58:29 PM
TBH I don't think Pacific should be robbed.

I myself forgot to name Lance Franklin once when I had him the VC the week before...

It happens. Lance Franklin is quite clearly best XV more than Bontempelli and all those.

Sh1t happens. IDK y everyone QQ - they were going to win it anyway. Partial lockouts (which I think is when this happened?) screw everyone too.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on August 11, 2014, 06:08:15 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on August 11, 2014, 05:52:40 PM
I love how the recent ones to quote that all benefit greatly from the stripping of picks from Pacific :P.
Glad I'm not the only one to notice this ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 11, 2014, 06:10:56 PM
Personally we only move up from 5 to 4 so its not a massive gain. Its just the fact its dragging out after a decision was made. It could have been a different outcome and would have felt the same
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on August 11, 2014, 06:12:26 PM
And of the sanctions this was the more lenient
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on August 11, 2014, 07:37:12 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 11, 2014, 06:12:26 PM
And of the sanctions this was the more lenient
Well maybe there weren't enough possible sanctions? I know many coaches have said that a 2nd round pick is more reasonable.

Quote from: Ricochet on August 11, 2014, 06:10:56 PM
Personally we only move up from 5 to 4 so its not a massive gain. Its just the fact its dragging out after a decision was made. It could have been a different outcome and would have felt the same
Well actually, Ossie's first decision was that we didn't tank. You guys appealed that and got it overturned. But now it's wrong when we do the same?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on August 11, 2014, 07:39:57 PM
You might of got away with it if it wasnt for comments like these:

16:01] Guest9252: I dont even care tbh, very young team going nowhere till players mature, hard to do much

[16:03] Guest9252: we cant all be expected to be nerds to play AXV
[16:03] Guest9252: WXV

[16:04] Lairdy: too many rules given how much effort I have to give into AF and SC

[16:06] Lairdy: why? When the team can compete Ill be putting in appropriatly
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on August 11, 2014, 07:49:53 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 11, 2014, 07:39:57 PM
You might of got away with it if it wasnt for comments like these:

16:01] Guest9252: I dont even care tbh, very young team going nowhere till players mature, hard to do much

[16:03] Guest9252: we cant all be expected to be nerds to play AXV
[16:03] Guest9252: WXV

[16:04] Lairdy: too many rules given how much effort I have to give into AF and SC

[16:06] Lairdy: why? When the team can compete Ill be putting in appropriatly
Did I make those comments? No. It's not just tbag who is being punished here...

I can't control what tbag says, and I don't particularly like those comments either. But if you have a problem, then that needs to be taken up with tbag rather than majorly stunting the development of a promising team in the form of stripping a top 3 pick.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on August 11, 2014, 07:52:42 PM
That is why I said on chat, T-Bag not knowing went to stop got you deeper shower and just made matters worse..

Now Jay is being punished for it which is unfair. I felt a different punishment should have been given considering the circumstances and everything that happened but I'll keep that to myself.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on August 11, 2014, 07:54:05 PM
Unfortunately when you are co-coaches you count as one
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on August 11, 2014, 07:57:26 PM
Zzz... Lets trade.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 11, 2014, 07:58:31 PM
Quote from: Vinny on August 11, 2014, 07:52:42 PM
That is why I said on chat, T-Bag not knowing went to stop got you deeper shower and just made matters worse..
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 11, 2014, 07:59:15 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 11, 2014, 07:57:26 PM
Zzz... Lets trade.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on August 11, 2014, 08:04:05 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 11, 2014, 07:54:05 PM
Unfortunately when you are co-coaches you count as one
I think you need to consider the circumstances. One coach talking on chat should not result in the other being punished this severely. 2nd round pick? Sure, I could live with that.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 11, 2014, 08:06:16 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on August 11, 2014, 05:52:40 PM
I love how the recent ones to quote that all benefit greatly from the stripping of picks from Pacific :P.

Fine,

I didn't vote for draft sanctions, I went the unbiased, more applicable option. And I do agree that some votes were done to benefit that coaches team.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on August 11, 2014, 08:09:34 PM
Quote from: Jayman on August 11, 2014, 08:04:05 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 11, 2014, 07:54:05 PM
Unfortunately when you are co-coaches you count as one
I think you need to consider the circumstances. One coach talking on chat should not result in the other being punished this severely. 2nd round pick? Sure, I could live with that.

But then by accepting a 2nd round pick you are conceeding to being in the wrong ;) So your just contesting the severity of the sanction.
Essendon got 2 first rounders taken from them and they were never found guilty :P
And who knows if Hurley played every game and the nerd rules were implemented you might have won one more game and you wouldnt have got the bonus pick 3
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: MajorLazer on August 11, 2014, 08:33:20 PM
So at Cairo we are definitely looking for some forwards in the trade period. We have a fair few backs to trade, including Eski, so send either/both Nige and I a PM if you're interested.

(I'm ignoring all this other stuff. 8))
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on August 11, 2014, 08:43:47 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 11, 2014, 08:09:34 PM
Quote from: Jayman on August 11, 2014, 08:04:05 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 11, 2014, 07:54:05 PM
Unfortunately when you are co-coaches you count as one
I think you need to consider the circumstances. One coach talking on chat should not result in the other being punished this severely. 2nd round pick? Sure, I could live with that.

But then by accepting a 2nd round pick you are conceeding to being in the wrong ;) So your just contesting the severity of the sanction.
Essendon got 2 first rounders taken from them and they were never found guilty :P
And who knows if Hurley played every game and the nerd rules were implemented you might have won one more game and you wouldnt have got the bonus pick 3
I'm not conceding that we're in the wrong at all. But if you all feel that action needs to be taken then let's at least be reasonable, losing pick 3 is far too harsh. If I cop a sanction for being inactive, then I can't argue with that. But the accusations of tanking, need to stop as they are both degrading and unfair.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 11, 2014, 08:55:43 PM
Quote from: MajorLazer on August 11, 2014, 08:33:20 PM
So at Cairo we are definitely looking for some forwards in the trade period. We have a fair few backs to trade, including Eski, so send either/both Nige and I a PM if you're interested.

(I'm ignoring all this other stuff. 8))
I'd like to add that we want a proper starting forward too.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on August 11, 2014, 09:05:00 PM
Johnny Butch comin' back atcha
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 11, 2014, 09:06:33 PM
Quote from: Toga on August 11, 2014, 09:05:00 PM
Johnny Butch comin' back atcha
No refunds.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on August 11, 2014, 09:07:53 PM
Ben McGlynn getting more expensive every week ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on August 11, 2014, 09:15:34 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 11, 2014, 08:55:43 PM
Quote from: MajorLazer on August 11, 2014, 08:33:20 PM
So at Cairo we are definitely looking for some forwards in the trade period. We have a fair few backs to trade, including Eski, so send either/both Nige and I a PM if you're interested.

(I'm ignoring all this other stuff. 8))
I'd like to add that we want a proper starting forward too.
i'd like to add that PNL have a plethora of forwards  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 11, 2014, 09:20:04 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on August 11, 2014, 09:15:34 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 11, 2014, 08:55:43 PM
Quote from: MajorLazer on August 11, 2014, 08:33:20 PM
So at Cairo we are definitely looking for some forwards in the trade period. We have a fair few backs to trade, including Eski, so send either/both Nige and I a PM if you're interested.

(I'm ignoring all this other stuff. 8))
I'd like to add that we want a proper starting forward too.
i'd like to add that PNL have a plethora of forwards  ;)
Are you over your stinginess?  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on August 11, 2014, 09:24:05 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 11, 2014, 09:07:53 PM
Ben McGlynn getting more expensive every week ;)

We are probably ok for midfielders thanks ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on August 11, 2014, 09:45:46 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 11, 2014, 09:24:05 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 11, 2014, 09:07:53 PM
Ben McGlynn getting more expensive every week ;)

We are probably ok for midfielders thanks ;)

Haha dreaming averaging over a goal a game ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on August 11, 2014, 09:50:55 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 11, 2014, 09:45:46 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 11, 2014, 09:24:05 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 11, 2014, 09:07:53 PM
Ben McGlynn getting more expensive every week ;)

We are probably ok for midfielders thanks ;)

Haha dreaming averaging over a goal a game ;)

Unfortunately its more based on where players get their possessions :P otherwise old mate GAJ would've been fwd/mid in previous seasons!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on August 11, 2014, 09:51:11 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 11, 2014, 09:45:46 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 11, 2014, 09:24:05 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 11, 2014, 09:07:53 PM
Ben McGlynn getting more expensive every week ;)

We are probably ok for midfielders thanks ;)

Haha dreaming averaging over a goal a game ;)
So is Gary Ablett...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on August 11, 2014, 09:56:17 PM
Whatever; he will a Mid/fwd next year.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on August 11, 2014, 10:04:13 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 11, 2014, 09:20:04 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on August 11, 2014, 09:15:34 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 11, 2014, 08:55:43 PM
Quote from: MajorLazer on August 11, 2014, 08:33:20 PM
So at Cairo we are definitely looking for some forwards in the trade period. We have a fair few backs to trade, including Eski, so send either/both Nige and I a PM if you're interested.

(I'm ignoring all this other stuff. 8))
I'd like to add that we want a proper starting forward too.
i'd like to add that PNL have a plethora of forwards  ;)
Are you over your stinginess?  :P
NEVER!!!!!!!! :P :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torp on August 11, 2014, 10:12:20 PM
Moscow are open to trading, everyone is available. Check with Jukes and I to show interest.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jukes on August 11, 2014, 10:23:59 PM
Quote from: Torp on August 11, 2014, 10:12:20 PM
Moscow are open to trading, everyone* is available. Check with Jukes and I to show interest.

*Does not include Heppell, Hogan, or O'Meara
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on August 11, 2014, 10:26:33 PM
Quote from: Jukes on August 11, 2014, 10:23:59 PM
Quote from: Torp on August 11, 2014, 10:12:20 PM
Moscow are open to trading, everyone* is available. Check with Jukes and I to show interest.

*Does not include Heppell, Hogan, or O'Meara
Who for O'Meara?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: MajorLazer on August 11, 2014, 10:27:06 PM
Quote from: Master Q on August 11, 2014, 10:26:33 PM
Quote from: Jukes on August 11, 2014, 10:23:59 PM
Quote from: Torp on August 11, 2014, 10:12:20 PM
Moscow are open to trading, everyone* is available. Check with Jukes and I to show interest.

*Does not include Heppell, Hogan, or O'Meara
Who for O'Meara?
Pick 3. :o :P 8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torp on August 11, 2014, 10:36:10 PM
Quote from: Jukes on August 11, 2014, 10:23:59 PM
Quote from: Torp on August 11, 2014, 10:12:20 PM
Moscow are open to trading, everyone* is available. Check with Jukes and I to show interest.

*Does not include Heppell, Hogan, or O'Meara
never say never Jukesy, if I was offered Rockliff and Buddy for Hogan I might consider.  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on August 11, 2014, 10:37:26 PM
Pick 2 and 3 are on the table, if anyone wants them.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jukes on August 11, 2014, 10:42:30 PM
Quote from: Torp on August 11, 2014, 10:36:10 PM
Quote from: Jukes on August 11, 2014, 10:23:59 PM
Quote from: Torp on August 11, 2014, 10:12:20 PM
Moscow are open to trading, everyone* is available. Check with Jukes and I to show interest.

*Does not include Heppell, Hogan, or O'Meara
never say never Jukesy, if I was offered Rockliff and Buddy for Hogan I might consider.  ;)

That's a scam, only one of them came from Claremont
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 12, 2014, 05:33:40 AM

Ok, first of all thank you for everyone letting me know their opinions and for mostly being fairly calm and collected about it. This is gotta be one of the more divisive issues we've had in our 3 years.

In the end though, I've tried going through the process, and have skirted/personfooted the issue. In reality I think it is clear what has happened:

- tbagrocks is coach who doesn't understand/care/respect the game fully.
- Jayman has been more absent than he should have been in the management of the team.

I've looked back through the results, and I can't say definitively whether any results would have changed with a more focused approach. Let's note that the Islanders have been absolutely RAVAGED by injury. But given how close the percentage was, I can't definitively rule it out. And in honestly, if a team who is legitimately trying to avoid the Spoon, they wouldn't forget to name a key player.

Although I don't believe their was a a lot of bias in the vote, it is a fair enough point. These are the kind of decisions that I should be able to make, given everybody has well and truly had their say now.

It is also clear that a rift exists between tbagrocks and Jayman.

So, and I'm serious, this is going to be the FINAL FINAL decision.

- tbagrocks is sacked.
- tbagrocks can still around as an assistant if he likes, but can't name the team.
- Jayman is now sole coach

Because of the percentage issue, and the fact I can't be sure if Pacific would have won any more games, the new order of the picks will be:

1. Beijing
2. Pacific
3. Pacific
4. Beijing


Done.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 12, 2014, 06:14:03 AM
not cool doing votes at 6am lol
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on August 12, 2014, 08:41:26 AM
Well done Ossman
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 12, 2014, 09:11:25 AM
Well done oz, think that is the best decision.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on August 12, 2014, 10:01:34 AM
Good work oss was considering suggesting something similar
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 12, 2014, 10:08:12 AM
Best possible outcome has been reached now for all parties, well done Oss.  :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on August 12, 2014, 10:22:48 AM
Appreciate the way you handled the process Oss, hats off to you. Unfortunately this has come at the loss of my co-coach but I promise you guys I'll be much more active in the future to avoid a mess like this happening again. Let's put this behind us.

Now, if anyone wants to talk trades then shoot me a PM 8) everyone not named Jack Redden is available for the right price. Picks 2 and 3 are available also.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on August 12, 2014, 10:30:15 AM
What do you want for Jack Redden?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on August 12, 2014, 10:37:29 AM
Nice work Oz, you've handled it very well. Jay definitely deserves a good deal of leniency given he has the added burden of his final year of school this year! :)

With the order of draft picks now decided, it's worth noting that pretty much all of our players will be on the trade table (maybe excepting Wines, Aish and Caddy), and we are looking to move on one or both of Pick 1 & Pick 4 for players. Shoot Master Q and myself a PM if you're interested in anyone! ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 12, 2014, 11:25:51 AM

trade talk over here:

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,98374.0.html
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 12, 2014, 11:27:18 AM

Also note that Jacobs has played 16 matches, not 13 as indicated in the voting email.

Similarly, Paparone played 5, not 4 matches.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 12, 2014, 11:55:49 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 12, 2014, 11:25:51 AM

trade talk over here:

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,98374.0.html
thought it would be best if I started a new topic ;) lol thanks for moving it Oss
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: tbagrocks on August 12, 2014, 05:11:44 PM
A rift between me and J ???  yeah nice joke ::)

bunch of no life nerds ::)

and JB needs to be looked at for bullying
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 12, 2014, 05:12:39 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on August 12, 2014, 05:11:44 PM
A rift between me and J ???  yeah nice joke ::)

bunch of no life nerds ::)

don't know how you get away with insulting people all the time
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on August 12, 2014, 05:19:25 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on August 12, 2014, 05:11:44 PM
bunch of no life nerds ::)

and JB needs to be looked at for bullying

Sends out personal insults... Calls someone out for bullying.

Tbag logic.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: tbagrocks on August 12, 2014, 05:22:29 PM
Hey I tried to be reasonable but you lot were only interested in a witch hunt
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on August 12, 2014, 06:09:28 PM
You're just gonna get yourself into more trouble than just a sacking T..
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on August 12, 2014, 06:10:39 PM
Quote from: Vinny on August 12, 2014, 06:09:28 PM
You're just gonna get yourself into more trouble than just a sacking T..

Immediately thought of GTA lol
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on August 12, 2014, 06:13:44 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 12, 2014, 06:10:39 PM
Quote from: Vinny on August 12, 2014, 06:09:28 PM
You're just gonna get yourself into more trouble than just a sacking T..

Immediately thought of GTA lol
Haha yess, haven't played story mode in ages.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 12, 2014, 06:40:18 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 12, 2014, 06:10:39 PM
Quote from: Vinny on August 12, 2014, 06:09:28 PM
You're just gonna get yourself into more trouble than just a sacking T..

Immediately thought of GTA lol
Lmao, so did I!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 13, 2014, 01:26:35 PM

Discuss

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,98389.0.html
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 14, 2014, 06:21:33 PM
Breaking News

i am announcing i am stepping down as co-coach of Tokyo i am very regretful in doing this but i'm not enjoying being a co-coach

i will consider my options to be an Assistant at another team maybe one that has one of the new coaches

i will also be applying for the next available team
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 14, 2014, 06:26:19 PM
 :o

Haven't seen Boomz in a while... this could get interesting.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 14, 2014, 06:30:49 PM
Sounds like KB and Boomz are not seeing eye to eye, or there is some sort of issue?

No need to make the matter public, but t's a shame to hear.

Having fun is what this is supposed to be all about
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 14, 2014, 06:31:06 PM
Jaybluff?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 14, 2014, 06:33:14 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 14, 2014, 06:31:06 PM
Jaybluff?
I just had this thought haha.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on August 14, 2014, 06:33:45 PM
Stepping down from a main coaching gig automatically puts somebody at the bottom of my "coaches to vote for next team vote" list.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on August 14, 2014, 06:36:01 PM
#beef
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on August 14, 2014, 06:36:09 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 14, 2014, 06:31:06 PM
Jaybluff?
No.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on August 14, 2014, 06:38:02 PM
Lol, so much tension.

Quote from: Vinny on August 14, 2014, 06:36:01 PM
#beef
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 14, 2014, 06:41:55 PM
Quote from: Nails on August 14, 2014, 06:33:45 PM
Stepping down from a main coaching gig automatically puts somebody at the bottom of my "coaches to vote for next team vote" list.

surely it depends on circumstances
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on August 15, 2014, 12:48:10 AM
I can imagine why you stepped down KB :-X. You did leave the fun happy times of PNL to join Tokyo, so your loss when we made finals >:D.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Boomz on August 15, 2014, 02:31:57 AM
So basically KB and I disagree on some (A lot) trade issues and he feels like he wants his own team (from what I gather) I'm all cool with him as he has been great doing majority of the work and I do really appreciate it as I have been a lot busier this year but I'm still keen to continue with Tokyo and will be happy to sole coach again rather than agree to trades etc I don't feel right about. I'm more into trading once the season is over but if anyone has anything to run by me feel free.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 16, 2014, 06:58:00 AM
now an Assistant at Soul Magpies  ;D

figured it makes sense since i'm an Assistant for him in AXV also
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on August 16, 2014, 07:20:26 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 16, 2014, 06:58:00 AM
now an Assistant at Soul Magpies  ;D

figured it makes sense since i'm an Assistant for him in AXV also

Just needa learn to spell Seoul first but welcome aboard kb :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 16, 2014, 07:21:20 AM
yeah but it's to early for spell check :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 16, 2014, 09:06:37 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 16, 2014, 07:21:20 AM
yeah but it's to early for spell check :P
*too

;) :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 16, 2014, 04:32:57 PM
Being relatively new to XV, I was just looking at other teams, and how the hell do some teams have such insanely good teams, while others are absolute rubbish?

The team AK and I took over is poor and needs heaps of work, as do others, but then there are teams mile ahead. How did that even happen in this environment in the first place?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on August 16, 2014, 04:35:36 PM
Two words mate, trade r*pe :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 16, 2014, 04:36:07 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 16, 2014, 04:32:57 PM
Being relatively new to XV, I was just looking at other teams, and how the hell do some teams have such insanely good teams, while others are absolute rubbish?

The team AK and I took over is poor and needs heaps of work, as do others, but then there are teams mile ahead. How did that even happen in this environment in the first place?

Yep, it's a little phrase we like to call...

Quote from: elephants on August 16, 2014, 04:35:36 PM
Two words mate, trade r*pe :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on August 16, 2014, 04:36:29 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 16, 2014, 04:32:57 PM
Being relatively new to XV, I was just looking at other teams, and how the hell do some teams have such insanely good teams, while others are absolute rubbish?

The team AK and I took over is poor and needs heaps of work, as do others, but then there are teams mile ahead. How did that even happen in this environment in the first place?
dodgy trading
and letting them through
i'm sure some poor drafting as well
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 16, 2014, 04:38:33 PM
Seriously? Dodgy trading?

If true, that's really disappointing to know that it was happening, and even more so that it was allowed to

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 16, 2014, 04:39:44 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 16, 2014, 04:38:33 PM
Seriously? Dodgy trading?

If true, that's really disappointing to know that it was happening, and even more so that it was allowed to

I basically quit having a team to try and stop this in future
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on August 16, 2014, 04:45:33 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 16, 2014, 04:38:33 PM
Seriously? Dodgy trading?

If true, that's really disappointing to know that it was happening, and even more so that it was allowed to
because most people like to win there trades
not work out a even deal
(not having a go at anyone in particular human nature especially when competitive to want to win)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on August 16, 2014, 04:46:29 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 16, 2014, 04:35:36 PM
Two words mate, trade r*pe :P
Well I pretty much just drafted my team. Not a huge amount of trading done by me...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on August 16, 2014, 04:47:00 PM
Poor drafting would be a big one too, as well as trade r*ping. Plus coaches trading with bias. But there is always going to be teams that are worse in a competition. It is a good challenge for new coaches to build them back up.

There is unlikely to be any super one sided trades in the future but more often than not a team will win a trade. That is down to the coach really. Good coaches will trade well and come out the other end the winner.

The crazy trades will be stopped of course though.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on August 16, 2014, 04:48:16 PM
Also terrible drafting.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 16, 2014, 08:48:18 PM
maybe we think of something like Cloning.

each team can name 1 player and they get two of them.

wouldn't mind 2 Rocky's
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 16, 2014, 08:49:25 PM
Quote from: Holzman on August 16, 2014, 08:48:18 PM
maybe we think of something like Cloning.

each team can name 1 player and they get two of them.

wouldn't mind 2 Rocky's

Are you drinking Holz?

We get that with Captains anyway
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 16, 2014, 08:52:05 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 16, 2014, 08:49:25 PM
Quote from: Holzman on August 16, 2014, 08:48:18 PM
maybe we think of something like Cloning.

each team can name 1 player and they get two of them.

wouldn't mind 2 Rocky's

Are you drinking Holz?

We get that with Captains anyway

I dont drink.

Rocky (C), Rocky (VC)

wouldnt mind that.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on August 16, 2014, 08:53:31 PM
Quote from: Holzman on August 16, 2014, 08:52:05 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 16, 2014, 08:49:25 PM
Quote from: Holzman on August 16, 2014, 08:48:18 PM
maybe we think of something like Cloning.

each team can name 1 player and they get two of them.

wouldn't mind 2 Rocky's

Are you drinking Holz?

We get that with Captains anyway

I dont drink.

Rocky (C), Rocky (VC)

wouldnt mind that.
And when Rockys a late out... lol
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on August 16, 2014, 08:53:31 PM
Il take Danger at f1 and f2 :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on August 16, 2014, 09:23:34 PM
Pendles squared...I like it.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on August 16, 2014, 09:28:36 PM
2 Abletts!!! *drool
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on August 16, 2014, 11:38:33 PM
Can we trade our clone?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on August 16, 2014, 11:39:16 PM
Quote from: Nails on August 16, 2014, 11:38:33 PM
Can we trade our clone?
Haha I thought this too.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 17, 2014, 05:09:19 PM

thoughts:

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,98506.0.html

?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on August 17, 2014, 07:20:29 PM
Hate seeing ex-Wolves Jordan Lewis, Robbie Gray and Dayne Zorko absolutely tear it to shreds...week after week  :-[
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 19, 2014, 09:58:49 AM
Ossie/everyone would like to know your thoughts on this idea

when lodging final lists everybody nominates there best 4 defenders, 4 forwards, 4 mids and 1 ruck

if 1 of these players gets injured/suspended if you want you can name an extra player on the interchange instead of that position

not sure if able to do this unlimited times or restricted like flood/attack

think it evens the comp a bit
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on August 19, 2014, 10:14:51 AM
no kb, just no.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on August 19, 2014, 12:42:19 PM
If you nominate a ruck and they're injured, pretty much don't need to play a ruck. So probably won't work out :-\.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on August 20, 2014, 06:16:32 PM
Just a thought on the OOP ruck.

I don't mind getting 50% for OOP def/mid/fwd as there are lot of these players and in theory teams should have enough depth to avoid OOP.

However, given how limited the number of rucks who actually play are the 50% score rule for an OOP ruck is a bit harsh/could be improved in my opinion.

In real life if a team has lost their ruckman they use their next tallest guy/most agile and sometimes they are quite useful.

Could we adapt this for Worlds with a new rule?

I'd suggest that the OOP ruck score would be weighted something like this. They get a certain % of their score which is higher the taller the OOP listed player is.

How about the standard 50% weighting plus and extra 3% per cm the player is above 190?

Here's a practical example with a few players, using the Bombers as an example (ignore the actual players I've just picked guys who are different heights).

OOP Ruck

Joe Daniher - (201cm). As Daniher is 11cm above 190cm his OOP ruck weighting would be 50%+(11*3=33). Which = 83%

Cale Hooker - (197cm). As Hooker is 7cm above 190cm his OOP ruck weighting would be 50%+(7*3=21). Which = 71%

Patrick Ambrose - (191cm). Ambrose is 1cm above 190cm so his OOP ruck weighting would be 50% +(1*3). Which = 53%

So then say Daniher, Hooker and Ambrose all score an even 100 points in SC in real life then as an OOP ruck Daniher scores 83 points, Hooker scores 71 points and Ambrose scores 53 points.

I don't think the rule would be difficult to police/score as most likely teams wouldn't use an OOP ruck because there still is a penalty. Daniher is close to the tallest OOP ruck option you could have had this season (in fact I think he is).
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 20, 2014, 06:51:12 PM
That's actually a pretty awesome idea. There would be more appropriate real-life options to put in the ruck, instead of say Josh Green playing there and getting reduced to 50 points, where in real-life he wouldn't have even got near it.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torp on August 20, 2014, 06:57:20 PM
Loves this idea,
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on August 20, 2014, 07:09:08 PM
I don't like it for obvious reasons :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on August 20, 2014, 07:15:35 PM
Quote from: Honey Badger on August 20, 2014, 07:09:08 PM
I don't like it for obvious reasons :P

Boo :P #sharingiscaring
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 20, 2014, 07:28:08 PM
M0nty medal tuesday night

for the idea, id beed someone to extract heights for me
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on August 20, 2014, 07:52:26 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 20, 2014, 07:28:08 PM
for the idea, id beed someone to extract heights for me

Could we just make it if you need to enforce the rule, you need to include the height of the OOP player in your team sheet for the week? And maybe just go by the FF listings on each player's profile?

And if you fail to notify that you are going OOP/fail to list the player's height then you cop a penalty?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on August 20, 2014, 07:55:04 PM
makes a hell of alot more of work for Ossie to double check things
so i think leave it as it is
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on August 20, 2014, 08:03:23 PM
surely we're all old enough to use the honour system

except Torp :-X but that's not an issue anymore :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 20, 2014, 08:29:21 PM
Could nominate a handful of players (like 5) at the start of the year, list their height and multiplier, then just refer to that if required
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 20, 2014, 08:31:53 PM
Not sure about things like this, people have drafted and traded accordingly to go after ruckman because of their value. I only have 1 ruck and if he misses I feel I should get the full discount just like if im short a forward or a midfielder.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torp on August 20, 2014, 08:48:14 PM
Quote from: Nails on August 20, 2014, 08:03:23 PM
surely we're all old enough to use the honour system

except Torp :-X but that's not an issue anymore :P
....What.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on August 20, 2014, 08:59:17 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on August 20, 2014, 07:55:04 PM
makes a hell of alot more of work for Ossie to double check things
so i think leave it as it is

It's not because how often does a team play an OOP ruck in a season?

Not many - I'd expect less than two a week if that. It's only likely to be the odd game or two.

Holz my point for this rule being for rucks only is that in the AFL there are a very limited amount of rucks so even if a WXV team drafts a few if they get hit by injuries (for examples, Vardy, ZSmith and S Martin all missed for us this year at the same time) then you are at a big disadvantage.

And if it's a serious injury then you are stuck with an OOP ruck all year.

There's still a substantial penalty as my example showed with Daniher literally the tallest non ruck listed player this year I believe and he only would get 83% of his score.

Also in the AFL you never see a short guy playing in the ruck which happens for OOP rucks in this comp. the worst ruck I can think of OOP in real life in the last few seasons is Zac Dawson last season for Freo.

It also helps mitigate the fact that in SC sometimes rucks are not given ruck status even though they are clearly ruckmen. For example Lycett last year (or was it this year) and Tom Campbell were forwards only.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on August 20, 2014, 09:09:29 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on August 20, 2014, 08:59:17 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on August 20, 2014, 07:55:04 PM
makes a hell of alot more of work for Ossie to double check things
so i think leave it as it is

It's not because how often does a team play an OOP ruck in a season?

Not many - I'd expect less than two a week if that. It's only likely to be the odd game or two.

Holz my point for this rule being for rucks only is that in the AFL there are a very limited amount of rucks so even if a WXV team drafts a few if they get hit by injuries (for examples, Vardy, ZSmith and S Martin all missed for us this year at the same time) then you are at a big disadvantage.

And if it's a serious injury then you are stuck with an OOP ruck all year.

There's still a substantial penalty as my example showed with Daniher literally the tallest non ruck listed player this year I believe and he only would get 83% of his score.

Also in the AFL you never see a short guy playing in the ruck which happens for OOP rucks in this comp. the worst ruck I can think of OOP in real life in the last few seasons is Zac Dawson last season for Freo.

It also helps mitigate the fact that in SC sometimes rucks are not given ruck status even though they are clearly ruckmen. For example Lycett last year (or was it this year) and Tom Campbell were forwards only.

let's not forget matthew knights going into the final with adelaide with nathan lovett murray as ruckman
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 20, 2014, 09:25:08 PM
I'm kinda over these 238219 new rules and concepts popping up.

Whatever happened to keeping it simple?  :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on August 21, 2014, 10:12:20 PM
Dillos have no playing ruck this season at this stage and we don't mind not having this rule. Like an AFL club we will draft or trade in a ruckmen. Great suggestion but, cannot just look for alternative ways that just fit the "Replicates AFL" when something goes wrong IMO. It's just makes WXV more complicated.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 24, 2014, 03:55:13 PM
Jim Stynes medal tuesday night guys
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on August 24, 2014, 03:57:50 PM
Ossie plllllleeeeease reply to my PM(s)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 24, 2014, 04:39:07 PM
Quote from: Nails on August 24, 2014, 03:57:50 PM
Ossie plllllleeeeease reply to my PM(s)

i'll do a deal with you nails, reply to mine and I'll reply to yours.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on August 24, 2014, 04:40:05 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 24, 2014, 04:39:07 PM
Quote from: Nails on August 24, 2014, 03:57:50 PM
Ossie plllllleeeeease reply to my PM(s)

i'll do a deal with you nails, reply to mine and I'll reply to yours.

I did? I think?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 24, 2014, 04:42:58 PM
Quote from: Nails on August 24, 2014, 04:40:05 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 24, 2014, 04:39:07 PM
Quote from: Nails on August 24, 2014, 03:57:50 PM
Ossie plllllleeeeease reply to my PM(s)

i'll do a deal with you nails, reply to mine and I'll reply to yours.

I did? I think?

haven't replied at least to my last 3
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on August 24, 2014, 05:00:25 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 24, 2014, 04:42:58 PM
Quote from: Nails on August 24, 2014, 04:40:05 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 24, 2014, 04:39:07 PM
Quote from: Nails on August 24, 2014, 03:57:50 PM
Ossie plllllleeeeease reply to my PM(s)

i'll do a deal with you nails, reply to mine and I'll reply to yours.

I did? I think?

haven't replied at least to my last 3

I went through my PMs and like replied to 2nd most recent and most recent was just an awards night invite

I r t3h repliest of them all now.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on August 24, 2014, 05:06:55 PM
Your talk reminded me to vote for the rules :P.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 27, 2014, 03:57:36 PM

Best and Fairests!

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,98724.0.html

Who are your best and fairests this year?

I know some are doing/have done counts already
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 29, 2014, 05:11:07 PM


Rookies

FYI

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,98773.msg1461670/topicseen.html#new
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 31, 2014, 04:16:43 PM

Trades start tomorrow :)

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,98819.0.html
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 02, 2014, 10:52:08 AM

Updated the records books (see the thread!) (still need to update the team records, which are now 2 years out of date, next on the agenda)


Games Records

Surname   Given   History   WXV
Ebert   Bradley   Mexico City   60
Sloane   Rory   Sao Paulo   58
Burgoyne   Shaun   Mexico City/Buenos Aires   57
Roughead   Jarryd   Sao Paulo   57
Lewis   Jordan   Mexico City   57
Houli   Bachar   Sao Paulo   57
Riewoldt   Nick   Mexico City   57
Kennedy   Josh P   Cape Town   56
Cotchin   Trent   Cape Town   56
Dal Santo   Nick   New Delhi/Cairo/Dublin   56
Bartel   Jimmy   Mexico City   56

Reserves Games Records

Surname   Given   History   RXV
Crowley   Ryan   Cairo/Alexandria   55
Lonergan   Tom   Pyongyang/Imperial   52
Morris   Steven   Moscow/Toronto   44
Shaw   Matt   Toronto   41
Jonas   Thomas   PNL/Toronto   41
Tuohy   Zach   Campinas/London   39
Carlile   Alipate   Berlin/Rhineland/Shanghai   39
Talia   Daniel   Mexico City/Port Morseby/Mumbai   38
Brown   Mitchell J   London/Imperial   38
Bail   Rohan   PNL/Alexandria/Mumbai   36

Most Finals Games
Surname   Given   History   WXVFinals
Waite   Jarrad   Mexico City   10
Maric   Ivan   Mexico City   10
Ebert   Bradley   Mexico City   10
Goddard   Brendon   Mexico City   10
Lewis   Jordan   Mexico City   9
Houli   Bachar   Sao Paulo   9
Burgoyne   Shaun   Mexico City/Buenos Aires   9
Bartel   Jimmy   Mexico City   9
Hodge   Luke   Mexico City   9
Jacobs   Sam   Sao Paulo   8
Minson   Will   Sao Paulo   8
Roughead   Jarryd   Sao Paulo   8
Sandilands   Aaron   Mexico City   8
Sloane   Rory   Sao Paulo   8

Most Games Named in Best
Surname   Given   History   WXVBest
Pendlebury   Scott   Toronto   46
Ablett   Gary jnr   Sao Paulo   44
Kennedy   Josh P   Cape Town   43
Sloane   Rory   Sao Paulo   42
Cotchin   Trent   Cape Town   42
Selwood   Joel   Cape Town/Dublin   39
Priddis   Matt   PNL   35
Goddard   Brendon   Mexico City   34
Sidebottom   Steele   Beijing/Mexico City   34
Ward   Callan   Dublin/Moscow   34



Most Games as Captain
Surname   Given   History   WXVCapt
Pendlebury   Scott   Toronto   50
Ablett   Gary jnr   Sao Paulo   49
Jack   Kieran   Tokyo   38
Swan   Dane   Buenos Aires   37
Rockliff   Tom   New Delhi/Pacific/Dublin   36
Stanton   Brent   London   36
Selwood   Joel   Cape Town/Dublin   35
Murphy   Marc   Wellington   35
Priddis   Matt   PNL   31
Montagna   Leigh   Cairo/New Delhi   28


Most Games as a Defender

Surname   Given   History   D
Houli   Bachar   Sao Paulo   57
Burgoyne   Shaun   Mexico City/Buenos Aires   57
Adcock   Jed   Wellington/Mexico City   54
Thompson   Scott D   Dublin/Buenos Aires   52
Enright   Corey   New Delhi/Mexico City/PNL   51
Johnson   Michael   Toronto   51
Malceski   Nick   Dublin/Cairo   50
Rance   Alex   Wellington/Dublin   50
Hanley   Pearce   Cairo   49
Taylor   Harry   Beijing   49
Murphy   Robert   London/Moscow/Dublin   49

Most Games as a Midfielder

Surname   Given   History   M
Ebert   Bradley   Mexico City   59
Sloane   Rory   Sao Paulo   58
Kennedy   Josh P   Cape Town   56
Cotchin   Trent   Cape Town   56
Pendlebury   Scott   Toronto   52
Boak   Travis   Buenos Aires/Dublin   52
Ablett   Gary jnr   Sao Paulo   51
Selwood   Joel   Cape Town/Dublin   51
Ward   Callan   Dublin/Moscow   51
Jack   Kieran   Tokyo   50
Barlow   Michael   Dublin/Buenos Aires   50
Bastinac   Ryan   Moscow/New Delhi   50

Most Games as a Ruck

Surname   Given   History   R
Goldstein   Todd   Cairo/Dublin   48
Naitanui   Nic   Moscow   40
Jacobs   Sam   Sao Paulo   37
Cox   Dean   New York/Buenos Aires   37
Mumford   Shane   Dublin/Cairo   37
McEvoy   Ben   Seoul   36
Jamar   Mark   Berlin   33
Maric   Ivan   Mexico City   32
Ryder   Paddy   Toronto   32
Kreuzer   Matthew   Beijing   31
Lobbe   Matthew   PNL   31

Most Games as a Forward

Surname   Given   History   F
Riewoldt   Nick   Mexico City   57
Roughead   Jarryd   Sao Paulo   57
Riewoldt   Jack   Toronto   55
Hawkins   Tom   Cape Town   54
Westhoff   Justin   Buenos Aires/PNL   51
Petrie   Drew   Pacific/Buenos Aires   51
Cloke   Travis   Tokyo/New York   50
Dahlhaus   Luke   Tokyo   49
Harvey   Brent   New Delhi/Buenos Aires   49
Franklin   Lance   Berlin/Dublin   47
Breust   Luke   London/Cairo   47
Mayne   Chris   London   47

Most Games on the Interchange
Surname   Given   History   I
Minson   Will   Sao Paulo   33
Mzungu   Tendai   PNL/Wellington   26
Cunnington   Ben   New York/Toronto   25
Parker   Luke   Tokyo   22
Jones   Clinton   Toronto   22
Clarke   Zachary   Dublin/Moscow   21
Cooney   Adam   Cape Town   20
Broadbent   Matthew   London   19
Giles   Jonathan   Wellington/New York/Cairo   19
Vince   Bernie   New York/Mexico City   19

Most Points - Including Bonus/Penalties

Surname   Given   History   TOTWXVA
Ablett   Gary jnr   Sao Paulo   13352
Pendlebury   Scott   Toronto   12625
Selwood   Joel   Cape Town/Dublin   10068
Rockliff   Tom   New Delhi/Pacific/Dublin   9555
Swan   Dane   Buenos Aires   9497
Jack   Kieran   Tokyo   9359
Kennedy   Josh P   Cape Town   9155
Murphy   Marc   Wellington   8438
Priddis   Matt   PNL   8321
Stanton   Brent   London   8123

Most Points - No bonus/penalties

Surname   Given   History   TOTWXVU
Ablett   Gary jnr   Sao Paulo   6803
Pendlebury   Scott   Toronto   6449
Sloane   Rory   Sao Paulo   6449
Kennedy   Josh P   Cape Town   6407
Selwood   Joel   Cape Town/Dublin   6256
Cotchin   Trent   Cape Town   6233
Sidebottom   Steele   Beijing/Mexico City   5859
Ebert   Bradley   Mexico City   5794
Goddard   Brendon   Mexico City   5778
Ward   Callan   Dublin/Moscow   5755

Most Points - Reserves

Surname   Given   History   TOTRES
Crowley   Ryan   Cairo/Alexandria   3141
Lonergan   Tom   Pyongyang   2771
Shaw   Matt   Toronto   2511
Jonas   Thomas   PNL/Toronto   2376
Morris   Steven   Moscow/Toronto   2312
Tuohy   Zach   Campinas/Imperial   2293
Firrito   Michael   Mexico City   2271
Carlile   Alipate   Berlin/Rhineland/Shanghai   2243
Duncan   Mitch   Campinas/Rio de Janeiro/Mumbai   2176
Baguley   Mark   Mexico City   2157


Jim Stynes Votes

Surname   Given   History   TOTV
Ablett   Gary jnr   Sao Paulo   79
Pendlebury   Scott   Toronto   56
Selwood   Joel   Cape Town/Dublin   44
Kennedy   Josh P   Cape Town   42
Sidebottom   Steele   Beijing/Mexico City   40
Swan   Dane   Buenos Aires   39
Rockliff   Tom   New Delhi/Pacific/Dublin   38
Ward   Callan   Dublin/Moscow   37
Watson   Jobe   Cape Town/Dublin   37
Murphy   Marc   Wellington   36


Teams of the Round (inc. Finals)

Surname   Given   History   TTofR
Ablett   Gary jnr   Sao Paulo   28
Pendlebury   Scott   Toronto   15
Selwood   Joel   Cape Town/Dublin   15
Rockliff   Tom   New Delhi/Pacific/Dublin   15
Goddard   Brendon   Mexico City   15
Johnson   Steve   PNL/Buenos Aires   14
Watson   Jobe   Cape Town/Dublin   13
Riewoldt   Nick   Mexico City   13
Hanley   Pearce   Cairo   13
Swan   Dane   Buenos Aires   12
Harvey   Brent   New Delhi/Buenos Aires   12
Deledio   Brett   Seoul/Wellington   12


Average Score - Including Bonus/Penalties (at least 17 matches)

Surname   Given   History   AVEWXVA
Ablett   Gary jnr   Sao Paulo   261.80
Pendlebury   Scott   Toronto   242.79
Rockliff   Tom   New Delhi/Pacific/Dublin   191.10
Selwood   Joel   Cape Town/Dublin   189.96
Swan   Dane   Buenos Aires   189.94
Murphy   Marc   Wellington   187.51
Jack   Kieran   Tokyo   187.18
Beams   Dayne   Moscow/Cairo   179.00
Priddis   Matt   PNL   169.82
Stanton   Brent   London   169.23

Average Score - No Bonus/Penalty (at least 17 matches)

Surname   Given   History   AVEWXVU
Ablett   Gary jnr   Sao Paulo   133.39
Pendlebury   Scott   Toronto   124.02
Beams   Dayne   Moscow/Cairo   118.25
Selwood   Joel   Cape Town/Dublin   118.04
Watson   Jobe   Cape Town/Dublin   114.70
Kennedy   Josh P   Cape Town   114.41
Rockliff   Tom   New Delhi/Pacific/Dublin   113.90
Cotchin   Trent   Cape Town   111.30
Sloane   Rory   Sao Paulo   111.19
Jack   Kieran   Tokyo   111.02

Average Score - Reserves (at least 17 matches)

Surname   Given   History   AVERES
Duncan   Mitch   Campinas/Rio de Janeiro/Mumbai   80.59
Thomas   Matt   PNL/Marseille   77.14
Mackay   David   London/Imperial   74.73
Jones   Matt   Alexandria/Shanghai   73.64
Adams   Taylor   Toronto/Rio de Janeiro   73.40
Hrovat   Nathan   Mexico City   73.24
Young   Clinton   Cairo/Toronto   73.11
Baguley   Mark   Mexico City   71.90
Glass   Darren   Beijing/Shanghai   71.78
Chaplin   Troy   Dublin/Cape Town/Alexandria   71.74


Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on September 02, 2014, 11:27:43 AM
So little Berlin. Think Jamar the only one still on my list mentioned  :-X

Think the term "Great Work Oz" has lost all it's meaning now, it gets said so much  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 02, 2014, 11:30:04 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 02, 2014, 11:27:43 AM
So little Berlin. Think Jamar the only one still on my list mentioned  :-X

Think the term "Great Work Oz" has lost all it's meaning now, it gets said so much  :P

McEvoy my only one in there
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 02, 2014, 12:40:42 PM
Crowley you deadset legend. 8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on September 02, 2014, 05:21:55 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on August 10, 2014, 03:32:29 PM
Quote from: Master Q on August 10, 2014, 12:10:33 PM
We need a complete makeover (being the Thunder and all  :P )
i'm not too good with photoshop especially compared to some around here but for now

(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g445/DazBurg/thunder_zps25806e00.jpg)
(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g445/DazBurg/armadillos_zpscab17db5.png)
(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g445/DazBurg/cobras_zpse7f64d1b.png)
(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g445/DazBurg/suns_zps183eed39.png)
(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g445/DazBurg/spetsnaz_zps15c9b8ad.png)
(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g445/DazBurg/tigers_zps12b21af4.png)
(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g445/DazBurg/islanders_zps2a57e0ca.jpg)
(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g445/DazBurg/reindeers_zpsf7ed28dd.png)
(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g445/DazBurg/magpies_zps983e8f26.jpg)
(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g445/DazBurg/samurais_zps21cd5dce.jpg)


all i've done is taken current ones and changed names nothing else
bump for Ossman
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 02, 2014, 05:28:08 PM
^^^

Need to be updated DB

KB now assistance at Seoul and Tbag noi longer with Pacific
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on September 02, 2014, 05:33:26 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 02, 2014, 05:28:08 PM
^^^

Need to be updated DB

KB now assistance at Seoul and Tbag noi longer with Pacific
yeah done them before all that :P
lol
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on September 02, 2014, 05:35:38 PM
Looks good with my name on there :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on September 02, 2014, 08:22:45 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on September 02, 2014, 05:21:55 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on August 10, 2014, 03:32:29 PM
Quote from: Master Q on August 10, 2014, 12:10:33 PM
We need a complete makeover (being the Thunder and all  :P )
i'm not too good with photoshop especially compared to some around here but for now

(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g445/DazBurg/thunder_zps25806e00.jpg)
(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g445/DazBurg/armadillos_zpscab17db5.png)
(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g445/DazBurg/cobras_zpse7f64d1b.png)
(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g445/DazBurg/suns_zps183eed39.png)
(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g445/DazBurg/spetsnaz_zps15c9b8ad.png)
(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g445/DazBurg/tigers_zps12b21af4.png)
(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g445/DazBurg/islanders_zps2a57e0ca.jpg)
(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g445/DazBurg/reindeers_zpsf7ed28dd.png)
(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g445/DazBurg/magpies_zps983e8f26.jpg)
(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g445/DazBurg/samurais_zps21cd5dce.jpg)


all i've done is taken current ones and changed names nothing else
bump for Ossman

updated
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on September 02, 2014, 08:32:36 PM
Just got me thinking who has been here the full 3 years.

roo boys, CF/HB, myself, My Chumps, HP, Holz, Boomz, and despite their inactiveness of late, I think pothead and ML

I think that's everyone... can't believe it's been 3 years!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on September 02, 2014, 08:36:31 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 02, 2014, 08:32:36 PM
Just got me thinking who has been here the full 3 years.

roo boys, CF/HB, myself, My Chumps, HP, Holz, Boomz, and despite their inactiveness of late, I think pothead and ML

I think that's everyone... can't believe it's been 3 years!
i been with HP from the start too :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on September 02, 2014, 08:47:53 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on September 02, 2014, 08:36:31 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 02, 2014, 08:32:36 PM
Just got me thinking who has been here the full 3 years.

roo boys, CF/HB, myself, My Chumps, HP, Holz, Boomz, and despite their inactiveness of late, I think pothead and ML

I think that's everyone... can't believe it's been 3 years!
i been with HP from the start too :P

Get the promotion damn it! Assistants aren't recorded in the books  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on September 02, 2014, 08:53:12 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 02, 2014, 08:47:53 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on September 02, 2014, 08:36:31 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 02, 2014, 08:32:36 PM
Just got me thinking who has been here the full 3 years.

roo boys, CF/HB, myself, My Chumps, HP, Holz, Boomz, and despite their inactiveness of late, I think pothead and ML

I think that's everyone... can't believe it's been 3 years!
i been with HP from the start too :P

Get the promotion damn it! Assistants aren't recorded in the books  :P

not your normal average everyday run of the mill assistants
but we all know i'm not your normal everday run of the mill assistant don't we...lol  8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 02, 2014, 09:08:01 PM
yeah HP complains all the time :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on September 02, 2014, 09:14:31 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 02, 2014, 09:08:01 PM
yeah HP complains all the time :P
yeah cause i gotta calm him down

he gets carried away :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: MajorLazer on September 02, 2014, 10:57:49 PM
Hey I'm still here. Nige is just minding the boys.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 03, 2014, 08:15:30 AM
Quote from: MajorLazer on September 02, 2014, 10:57:49 PM
Hey I'm still here. Nige is just minding the boys.
Best minder ever.  8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 03, 2014, 11:23:08 AM

Give you guys a week to decide your B&F before I choose for you :P

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,98724.15.html
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 03, 2014, 11:31:36 AM
Just waiting on those scores ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 03, 2014, 11:37:56 AM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 03, 2014, 11:31:36 AM
Just waiting on those scores ;)

yep, knew I'd forgotten something :/
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 03, 2014, 04:59:17 PM
Currently doing the Seoul B+F. Which Magpie will take it out? Danger? Swallow? Gibbs? McGlynn?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on September 03, 2014, 05:00:46 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 03, 2014, 04:59:17 PM
Currently doing the Seoul B+F. Which Magpie will take it out? Danger? Swallow? Gibbs? McGlynn?
McGlynn's my pick
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on September 03, 2014, 05:04:23 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 03, 2014, 04:59:17 PM
Currently doing the Seoul B+F. Which Magpie will take it out? Danger? Swallow? Gibbs? McGlynn?
Ellis a chance, too!
I'll go with Gibbs though.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 03, 2014, 05:07:03 PM

Swallow for sure I reckon
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on September 03, 2014, 06:10:27 PM
Will go Benny McGlynn.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 07, 2014, 03:56:36 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 03, 2014, 11:23:08 AM

Give you guys a week to decide your B&F before I choose for you :P

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,98724.15.html

tick tock
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 07, 2014, 04:07:21 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 07, 2014, 03:56:36 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 03, 2014, 11:23:08 AM

Give you guys a week to decide your B&F before I choose for you :P

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,98724.15.html

tick tock
Surely you're not expecting announcements from the Dillos, Cape Town and Wellington?  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on September 07, 2014, 04:10:34 PM
Clark may be returning!!!!

But not at the demons.... but still, Clark may be returning!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 07, 2014, 04:15:10 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 07, 2014, 04:10:34 PM
Clark may be returning!!!!

But not at the demons.... but still, Clark may be returning!

That's old new :P Was mentioned a week or two ago ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on September 07, 2014, 04:17:11 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 07, 2014, 04:10:34 PM
Clark may be returning!!!!

But not at the demons.... but still, Clark may be returning!
biggest load of crap if he returns
he should be made to pay back the payout he got from the dees
as even if they trade him the WA teams will lowball the dees on account of his "fragile" state of mind

sorry not WXV's related just annoys me is all
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on September 07, 2014, 04:17:33 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 07, 2014, 04:15:10 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 07, 2014, 04:10:34 PM
Clark may be returning!!!!

But not at the demons.... but still, Clark may be returning!

That's old new :P Was mentioned a week or two ago ;)

I knew that, but I thought it was just mere talk until today  :D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on September 07, 2014, 04:19:16 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on September 07, 2014, 04:17:11 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 07, 2014, 04:10:34 PM
Clark may be returning!!!!

But not at the demons.... but still, Clark may be returning!
biggest load of crap if he returns
he should be made to pay back the payout he got from the dees
as even if they trade him the WA teams will lowball the dees on account of his "fragile" state of mind

Oh, I am so disappointed that he may not return to the demons... it's just the sort of thing that happens to us.

I'd rate him less as a person tbh. Maybe he should repay the Dees with some loyalty? I dunno. I'm happy that he has recovered though. Which is the most important thing.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on September 07, 2014, 04:22:32 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 07, 2014, 04:19:16 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on September 07, 2014, 04:17:11 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 07, 2014, 04:10:34 PM
Clark may be returning!!!!

But not at the demons.... but still, Clark may be returning!
biggest load of crap if he returns
he should be made to pay back the payout he got from the dees
as even if they trade him the WA teams will lowball the dees on account of his "fragile" state of mind

Oh, I am so disappointed that he may not return to the demons... it's just the sort of thing that happens to us.

I'd rate him less as a person tbh. Maybe he should repay the Dees with some loyalty? I dunno. I'm happy that he has recovered though. Which is the most important thing.

yeah but also one of his reasons he reckons he couldn't go on was being on big money and feeling like he was letting the team down?


yeah retiring and taking money then coming back for another team is doing the opposite?
piss poor effort from him
twice his spoken complete crap when leaving brissy wanting to go home but didn't and now this
some character flaws scream out for sure
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on September 09, 2014, 07:31:37 PM
So... if Mitch Clark comes back, and I have very late draft picks and someone bids their first pick on him or something, what happens there oz?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on September 09, 2014, 07:38:09 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 09, 2014, 07:31:37 PM
So... if Mitch Clark comes back, and I have very late draft picks and someone bids their first pick on him or something, what happens there oz?
Isn't he still on your list?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on September 09, 2014, 07:39:03 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on September 09, 2014, 07:38:09 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 09, 2014, 07:31:37 PM
So... if Mitch Clark comes back, and I have very late draft picks and someone bids their first pick on him or something, what happens there oz?
Isn't he still on your list?

Was forced out because he retired? Or am I getting confused with that rule oz?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on September 09, 2014, 08:02:05 PM
World's easiest answer to your question...

Go look at the player list and draft order thread...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on September 09, 2014, 08:04:00 PM
Hmm. Good point.

You're alive Mitch Clark!  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on September 09, 2014, 08:26:18 PM
They're still on your list until they are delisted by you, so you still got him :P.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 09, 2014, 08:30:27 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on September 09, 2014, 08:26:18 PM
They're still on your list until they are delisted by you, so you still got him :P.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 10, 2014, 07:12:11 PM
Oss, will the draft order be updated after the last couple of trades are ruled on?  :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 10, 2014, 07:51:12 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 10, 2014, 07:12:11 PM
Oss, will the draft order be updated after the last couple of trades are ruled on?  :)

Yus
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 10, 2014, 07:53:34 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 10, 2014, 07:51:12 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 10, 2014, 07:12:11 PM
Oss, will the draft order be updated after the last couple of trades are ruled on?  :)

Yus
Cheerzzzzz.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on September 10, 2014, 11:01:15 PM
With Malceski being flown into Paris in a few days, think PNL are set up nicely.

Our top 4 backs look like Malceski, Simpson, Enright and Jaensch. This is 4 of the top 17 Defenders this season (SC average wise). When you consider we have Harbrow as well (81 average), reckon we have the best starting backs on paper 8).

That and even with the Coaches' Award winner Jaensch looking to move to greener pastures, still a lethal looking defence ;).
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on September 10, 2014, 11:15:02 PM
Very nice HP, will look forward to my forward line coming up against them, which contains 3 of the top 19 from this season with 2 of those (Smith and Gunston) due to improve further I reckon. Smith going to be one of the top forwards of the competition (SC wise) in a few seasons! And to think I picked him up through and auto pick in the draft! :-X
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on September 10, 2014, 11:16:05 PM
Guys, please.

Taylor, Hooker, Yeo, Carlile (Alipate). That's four of the top 163 defenders in 2014.

Halp.  ::)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 10, 2014, 11:16:26 PM
Quote from: Honey Badger on September 10, 2014, 11:15:02 PM
Very nice HP, will look forward to my forward line coming up against them, which contains 3 of the top 19 from this season with 2 of those (Smith and Gunston) due to improve further I reckon. Smith going to be one of the top forwards of the competition (SC wise) in a few seasons! And to think I picked him up through and auto pick in the draft! :-X
*an
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on September 10, 2014, 11:18:48 PM
Quote from: Honey Badger on September 10, 2014, 11:15:02 PM
Very nice HP, will look forward to my forward line coming up against them, which contains 3 of the top 19 from this season with 2 of those (Smith and Gunston) due to improve further I reckon. Smith going to be one of the top forwards of the competition (SC wise) in a few seasons! And to think I picked him up through and auto pick in the draft! :-X

3 of the top 19, that's cute

3 of the top 9 at Dublin.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on September 10, 2014, 11:29:08 PM
Zac Dawson and Daniel Talia.

Back the flower up lads.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on September 10, 2014, 11:31:37 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 10, 2014, 11:29:08 PM
Zac Dawson and Daniel Talia.

Back the flower up lads.
All-Australian lock, ele wins.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 11, 2014, 08:54:41 AM
Quote from: Jayman on September 10, 2014, 11:31:37 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 10, 2014, 11:29:08 PM
Zac Dawson and Daniel Talia.

Back the flower up lads.
All-Australian lock, ele wins.
/discussion
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on September 11, 2014, 05:58:59 PM
Pacific are over the cap :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RubBzkZzpUA
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on September 11, 2014, 05:59:58 PM
You're doing something right mate 8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 11, 2014, 06:01:08 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 11, 2014, 05:58:59 PM
Pacific are over the cap :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RubBzkZzpUA
Good work undone by linking a shower song.  :P

Quote from: Toga on September 11, 2014, 05:59:58 PM
You're doing something right mate 8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on September 11, 2014, 06:01:31 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 11, 2014, 05:58:59 PM
Pacific are over the cap :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RubBzkZzpUA
You've actually got the highest points for all the teams in the comp :o
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 11, 2014, 06:03:44 PM
Port Morseby Premiers 2015
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on September 11, 2014, 06:06:07 PM
Quote from: Honey Badger on September 11, 2014, 06:01:31 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 11, 2014, 05:58:59 PM
Pacific are over the cap :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RubBzkZzpUA
You've actually got the highest points for all the teams in the comp :o
Not sure how this happened :P but certainly a better position than last year where we were on the verge of going under...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on September 12, 2014, 02:28:31 PM
When do delistings start happening, Oz?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 12, 2014, 02:50:26 PM
Quote from: Toga on September 12, 2014, 02:28:31 PM
When do delistings start happening, Oz?

Whenever you like I suppose, doesn't really matter for a while. I prefer to wait until the AFL teams have lodged delistings.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on September 12, 2014, 03:27:09 PM
Best to mention them somewhere that they may be delisted, so could get something for them (e.g. a draft pick or another team's reject you like). Guys like ROK and Cox could get picked up again, so why some teams trading them off just incase.

PNL love grabbing some youngsters we researched and like who may be excess for other teams :P.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on September 12, 2014, 08:23:16 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 12, 2014, 02:50:26 PM
Quote from: Toga on September 12, 2014, 02:28:31 PM
When do delistings start happening, Oz?

Whenever you like I suppose, doesn't really matter for a while. I prefer to wait until the AFL teams have lodged delistings.

Yeah, fair enough. I'm not in any rush to do it, was just wondering if there was a deadline approaching or something ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 17, 2014, 02:34:28 PM

I should ask.. I don't really care myself but does anyone want child boards (check out Euros)?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on September 17, 2014, 02:39:26 PM
Yeh definitely mate. Makes it heaps cleaner and easier to find threads
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on September 17, 2014, 02:46:11 PM
I really don't see the point. There's 18 teams, so 18 threads, and not everyone posts in theirs anyway so not like they clog up the board.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on September 17, 2014, 02:58:25 PM
Quote from: Honey Badger on September 17, 2014, 02:46:11 PM
I really don't see the point. There's 18 teams, so 18 threads, and not everyone posts in theirs anyway so not like they clog up the board.

I find its easier to find them in the euro now, i just click on the board and they are all there. When trading I like to look at a teams best 15 so I look for their thread.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: MajorLazer on September 17, 2014, 03:06:57 PM
I think the main thing we could use a child board for is the 'match day threads'. They seem to clog things up a bit.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 17, 2014, 03:21:26 PM
Quote from: MajorLazer on September 17, 2014, 03:06:57 PM
I think the main thing we could use a child board for is the 'match day threads'. They seem to clog things up a bit.

Those are my favourite!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on September 17, 2014, 03:40:06 PM
Quote from: Holzman on September 17, 2014, 02:58:25 PM
Quote from: Honey Badger on September 17, 2014, 02:46:11 PM
I really don't see the point. There's 18 teams, so 18 threads, and not everyone posts in theirs anyway so not like they clog up the board.

I find its easier to find them in the euro now, i just click on the board and they are all there. When trading I like to look at a teams best 15 so I look for their thread.

This.

Child boards just for team threads I think would work. Maybe old threads (from 2 seasons ago) too
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on September 17, 2014, 04:15:51 PM
I'd prefer to delete duplicate team threads i.e. ones that belong to an old coach. That would certainly clean things up.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 17, 2014, 04:21:34 PM
@Purple77 you could do what i have done in British and any old threads call **** History and as coaches or team threads change get merged.  Check out British if you want with the 2 child boards as have finished cleaning up.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 17, 2014, 04:47:59 PM
Main Board has Discussion thread, current and previous round results, plus other threads such as Directory, trades etc

Then 2 child boards:

1 for Teams - 1 thread per team and nothing else
2 for previous weeks rounds posts. So the previous and current week threads by Os are in main board, and anything older go to this child board

Nice and clean  :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 17, 2014, 05:13:44 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 17, 2014, 04:47:59 PM
Main Board has Discussion thread, current and previous round results, plus other threads such as Directory, trades etc

Then 2 child boards:

1 for Teams - 1 thread per team and nothing else
2 for previous weeks rounds posts. So the previous and current week threads by Os are in main board, and anything older go to this child board

Nice and clean  :)
There's no need to 'archive' the previous rounds. Keep them in the main board. Only one gets made a week anyway, this isn't AXVs where they makes two threads a week just for the round.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: MajorLazer on September 17, 2014, 05:23:57 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 17, 2014, 03:21:26 PM
Quote from: MajorLazer on September 17, 2014, 03:06:57 PM
I think the main thing we could use a child board for is the 'match day threads'. They seem to clog things up a bit.

Those are my favourite!
I love them too, but they should have their own special place.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 18, 2014, 09:18:30 AM
Anyone interested in Johann Wagner?

Will be available in preseason and rookie draft btw
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on September 18, 2014, 01:38:16 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 18, 2014, 09:18:30 AM
Anyone interested in Johann Wagner?

Will be available in preseason and rookie draft btw

Sure why not.

Ossie quick question - Is their too many rounds of drafting? The AFL clubs will never take 90 Nat picks and then we have a pre-season and rookie draft as well (I'm not sure how many rounds that is). Is there enough players for all these drafts?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 18, 2014, 01:39:33 PM
should be fine most clubs wont use all there picks
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 18, 2014, 01:44:01 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 18, 2014, 01:39:33 PM
should be fine most clubs wont use all there picks
Plus there are the delistings from WXVs clubs (e.g. Jaensch and Miles to name a few from last year).

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 18, 2014, 01:57:51 PM

Yeah, we'll likely have 10ish rounds plus rookie upgrades.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on September 18, 2014, 04:01:52 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 18, 2014, 01:44:01 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 18, 2014, 01:39:33 PM
should be fine most clubs wont use all there picks
Plus there are the delistings from WXVs clubs (e.g. Jaensch and Miles to name a few from last year).
We're never gonna let Pacific forget that are we? :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on September 18, 2014, 04:06:38 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on September 18, 2014, 04:01:52 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 18, 2014, 01:44:01 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 18, 2014, 01:39:33 PM
should be fine most clubs wont use all there picks
Plus there are the delistings from WXVs clubs (e.g. Jaensch and Miles to name a few from last year).
We're never gonna let Pacific forget that are we? :P

whats even worse is that they slipped to pick 42 and 45.

was going to see who i picked ahead of them but lucky I had no picks before that.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on September 18, 2014, 04:30:51 PM
Daz wanted Miles but when he was selected before us I went for Jaensch for depth so not even mad at Tokyo.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 18, 2014, 04:41:10 PM


Last year's draft....




Round 1
1. Seoul - Thomas Boyd
2. Beijing - James Aish
3. Pacific - Matt Scharenberg
4. New York - Kade Kolodjashnij
5. New York - Luke McDonald
6. PNL - Jack Billings
7. Seoul - Josh Kelly
8. Pacific - Marcus Bontempelli
9. London - Ben Lennon
10. Moscow - Dom Sheed
11. New Delhi - Toby Nankervis
12. Cape Town - Matt Crouch
13. Cairo - Luke Dunstan
14. New Delhi - Dayle Garlett
15. Pacific - Cameron McCarthy
16. Seoul - Christian Salem
17. Sao Paulo - Nathan Freeman
18. Mexico City - Blake Acres

Priority Pick
19. Wellington - Patrick Cripps
20. Beijing - Rory Lobb
21. Cape Town - Trent Dumont

Round 2
22. Wellington - Lewis Taylor
23. Cairo - Jarman Impey
24. Sao Paulo - Zak Jones
25. New York - Darcy Lang
26. Berlin - Mitch Honeychurch
27. PNL - Zach Merrett
28. Seoul - Taylor Duryea
29. New Delhi - Nick Robertson
30. London - Will Hartung
31. New Delhi - Jimmy Webster
32. New Delhi - Riley Knight
33. Sao Paulo - Marco Paparone
34. Moscow - Matt Fuller
35. New York - Michael Apeness
36. Seoul - Jared Jansen
37. Pacific - Jake Kolodjashnij
38. Mexico City - Tom Cutler
39. Pacific - PASS


Round 3
40. Wellington - Jay Kennedy-Harris
41. Beijing - Mitchell Harvey
42. Tokyo - Anthony Miles
43. London - Darcy Gardner
44. Tokyo - Lloyd Perris
45. PNL - Matthew Jaensch
46. Tokyo - Sam Lloyd
47. New York - Tom Nicholls (Rookie Upgrade)
48. London - Daniel McStay
49. New York - Brant Colledge (Rookie Upgrade)
50. Toronto - Matt Spangher
51. Pacific - PASS
52. Cairo - Justin Clarke
53. Pacific - Cameron Wood (former player selection)
54. Seoul - Tom Langdon
55. Mexico City - Jake Barrett
56. Toronto - Jordan Lisle


Round 4
57. Wellington - Orazio Fantasia
58. Cairo - Nathan Gordon
59. Toronto - Jake Leslie
60. New Delhi - Cameron Giles
61. Wellington - James Sicily
62. Cairo - Karl Amon
63. London - PASS
64. Moscow - Tom Barrass
65. Toronto - Ben Brown
66. Berlin - Jonathan Marsh
67. Cairo - Seb Tape
68. Berlin - Luke Thompson
69. Buenos Aires - Darcy Byrne-Jones
70. Mexico City - Sean Lemmens
71. Moscow - Alex Pearce


Round 5
72. Wellington - PASS
73. Berlin - Jason Tutt
74. Dublin - Kurt Heatherley
75. New Delhi  - Zachary Williams (Rookie Upgrade)
76. Mexico City - Shane Biggs
77. PNL - PASS
78. London - Lachlan Dalgleish (Rookie Upgrade)
79. Dublin - Nick Holman
80. Toronto - Rhyce Shaw
81. Beijing - PASS
82. Moscow - David Ellard
83. Buenos Aires - Todd Banfield
84. Mexico City - Cameron Hitchcock

Round 6
85. PNL - Brad McKenzie (Rookie Upgrade)
86. Seoul - PASS
87. London - Dane Rampe (Rookie Upgrade)
88. Dublin - George Hewett
89. Toronto - PASS
90. Cairo - Malcolm Karpany
91. Moscow - Luke Tapscott
92. Berlin - Dylan Main
93. Buenos Aires - Aliir Aliir
94. Mexico City - Tom Curren (Rookie Upgrade)
95. Sao Paulo - Aiden Riley (Rookie Upgrade)

Round 7
96. Seoul - Sam Grimley (Rookie Upgrade)
97. Dublin - Jayden Hunt
98. Toronto - Tom Jonas (Rookie Upgrade)
99. Cairo - Jeremy McGovern
100. Moscow - Jesse Hogan (Rookie Upgrade)
101. Berlin - Mitch Wilkins
102. Buenos Aires - Jonathan Freeman
103. Mexico City - Brandon Jack (Rookie Upgrade)

Round 8
104. Dublin - Ciaran Byrne
105. Toronto - Mark Whiley (Rookie Upgrade)
106. Cairo - PASS
107. Moscow - Blayne Wilson (Rookie Upgrade)
108. Berlin - Jacob Brennan
109. Buenos Aires - Easton Wood
110. Mexico City - Mark Blicavs (Rookie Upgrade)

Round 9
111. Dublin - Jason Holmes
112. Cairo - Kyle Hartigan (Rookie Upgrade)
113. Moscow - George Burbury (Rookie Upgrade)
114. Berlin - Nathan Wilson
115. Buenos Aires - PASS

Round 10
116. Dublin - Ciaran Sheehan
117. Moscow - Sam Menegola (Rookie Upgrade)
118. Buenos Aires - PASS

Round 11
119. Dublin - Matthew Taberner (Rookie Upgrade)
120. Buenos Aires - Sam Schulz (Rookie Upgrade)



The bargains!



Round 1
8. Pacific - Marcus Bontempelli
22. Wellington - Lewis Taylor
33. Sao Paulo - Marco Paparone
54. Seoul - Tom Langdon
80. Toronto - Rhyce Shaw
99. Cairo - Jeremy McGovern
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on September 18, 2014, 04:52:09 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 18, 2014, 04:41:10 PM
14. New Delhi - Dayle Garlett
:'(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on September 18, 2014, 04:52:40 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 18, 2014, 04:52:09 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 18, 2014, 04:41:10 PM
14. New Delhi - Dayle Garlett
:'(

guys plz.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on September 18, 2014, 04:54:26 PM
Took Crouch + Dumont over Dunstan + Taylor... Early days, but I know who I'd rather have right now!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on September 18, 2014, 04:57:44 PM
We were very very close to taking Taylor over Lobb with Pick 21, shoulda gone with the gut!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on September 18, 2014, 04:58:18 PM
Eh. No real regrets about Honeychurch. Think he has bright potential, shame I traded him  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on September 18, 2014, 04:59:44 PM
billings, zach merrett and jaensch

pretty good job HP  8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on September 18, 2014, 05:01:33 PM
Last year's #38 + #70 + #76 for Scott D. Thompson + #36
Not too bad.

Btw Os, what would happen if a team doesn't have enough picks to fill their side? Do they just get picks at the end of the international draft?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 18, 2014, 05:21:11 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on September 18, 2014, 05:01:33 PM
Last year's #38 + #70 + #76 for Scott D. Thompson + #36
Not too bad.

Btw Os, what would happen if a team doesn't have enough picks to fill their side? Do they just get picks at the end of the international draft?

Yep, if you have 4 picks but need 8 players you'll get a round 6, 7, 8 and 9 pick.

Limited trading to first 5 rounds for my sanity more than anything else.

Theoretically you could have 40 rounds :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on September 18, 2014, 05:23:59 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 18, 2014, 05:21:11 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on September 18, 2014, 05:01:33 PM
Last year's #38 + #70 + #76 for Scott D. Thompson + #36
Not too bad.

Btw Os, what would happen if a team doesn't have enough picks to fill their side? Do they just get picks at the end of the international draft?

Yep, if you have 4 picks but need 8 players you'll get a round 6, 7, 8 and 9 pick.

Limited trading to first 5 rounds for my sanity more than anything else.

Theoretically you could have 40 rounds :P
Ok great, cheers Os.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 18, 2014, 05:37:09 PM
McGovern with #99, too good.  8)

Probably would have taken Lewis Taylor with #13 had we not got Dunstan.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 18, 2014, 05:38:32 PM

Rising Star at 54 is pretty spectacular
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 18, 2014, 05:39:04 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 18, 2014, 05:38:32 PM

Rising Star at 54 is pretty spectacular

:)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on September 18, 2014, 05:43:11 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 18, 2014, 04:54:26 PM
Took Crouch + Dumont over Dunstan + Taylor... Early days, but I know who I'd rather have right now!

I'm happy with our decisions.

Crouch is a ball magnet, just needs to break in to the Crows team on a regular basis while Dumont is classy and needs to do the same thing at North. I think we see him debut next season though. LT and Dunstan were good this season though.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 18, 2014, 10:50:58 PM
I couldn't sleep when it was close to our pick that's how bad I wanted Miles.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on September 18, 2014, 10:56:48 PM
Totally didn't know that delisted players were available in the international draft :o Otherwise probably would've taken Miles ahead of Mitch Harvey the pick before you guys :-X

Silly me, know the rules now though :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Boomz on September 18, 2014, 11:02:00 PM
Quote from: Toga on September 18, 2014, 10:56:48 PM
Totally didn't know that delisted players were available in the international draft :o Otherwise probably would've taken Miles ahead of Mitch Harvey the pick before you guys :-X

Silly me, know the rules now though :P

er the players available were all listed...  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on September 19, 2014, 05:54:25 PM
Breaking News!!!!


Rumour had it that the head coach of the Pumas had called a press conference to announce some breaking news! The reporters rushed to the Puma headquarters, but were sadly too late as Honey Badger had already left to go get drunk for the evening at an open bar nearby. Sadly we will have to wait until tomorrow to find out what this important news is, which could affect a few other clubs in the league...  :o
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 19, 2014, 06:04:47 PM
You're sacking yourself? :P

Now we have to wait you tease!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on September 19, 2014, 06:07:45 PM
Haha sorry, but I can't pass up an open bar :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on September 19, 2014, 06:09:39 PM
Gary Ablett has requested a trade to Dublin?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 19, 2014, 06:14:56 PM
So Ablett or Sloane are leaving for somewhere?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on September 19, 2014, 06:31:56 PM
Hehehe I know what it issss
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on September 19, 2014, 06:33:40 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 19, 2014, 06:31:56 PM
Hehehe I know what it issss

Let me guess you're signing Beau Waters off him...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 19, 2014, 06:35:28 PM
Better not be some NDT style Pods like announcement, we can't have another anticlimactic one.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on September 19, 2014, 06:39:15 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 19, 2014, 06:31:56 PM
Hehehe I know what it issss
I can guarantee that LE does not know what it is.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on September 19, 2014, 06:54:25 PM
Quote from: Honey Badger on September 19, 2014, 06:39:15 PM

Quote from: elephants on September 19, 2014, 06:31:56 PM
Hehehe I know what it issss
I can guarantee that LE does not know what it is.

You sure? ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 19, 2014, 07:17:00 PM
#icallbs
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on September 19, 2014, 09:47:15 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 19, 2014, 06:35:28 PM
Better not be some NDT style Pods like announcement, we can't have another anticlimactic one.  :P
+999999999999999999999996855745879999999

spot on nige i don't think i can take that
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails2 on September 19, 2014, 09:49:48 PM
Hi I am Nails2

I'm the guy that Dildos use when Nails has used his PM quota for the hour.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on September 19, 2014, 09:52:13 PM
Welcome to FF and WXV Nails2!  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails2 on September 19, 2014, 09:53:19 PM
Breaking news

Brent Harvey now up for auction.

Highest bidder wins him.

Bidding will start with a round 5 draft pick
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: AaronKirk on September 19, 2014, 10:05:44 PM
Quote from: Nails2 on September 19, 2014, 09:53:19 PM
Breaking news

Brent Harvey now up for auction.

Highest bidder wins him.

Bidding will start with a round 5 draft pick

Ok, Pick 62 is NY's bid  :o
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on September 19, 2014, 10:06:43 PM
*Waits for pick 62 to win*
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on September 19, 2014, 10:08:33 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on September 19, 2014, 10:05:44 PM
Quote from: Nails2 on September 19, 2014, 09:53:19 PM
Breaking news

Brent Harvey now up for auction.

Highest bidder wins him.

Bidding will start with a round 5 draft pick

Ok, Pick 62 is NY's bid  :o
his worth more then that say around pick 51...oh ait we have that pick yeah we will bid that seems fair....lol
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails2 on September 19, 2014, 10:09:24 PM
Bid 51 now the front runner and the possible winner.

Keep the bids coming!

We like young kids or picks!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on September 19, 2014, 10:10:15 PM
Quote from: Nails2 on September 19, 2014, 10:09:24 PM
Bid 51 now the front runner and the possible winner.

Keep the bids coming!

We like young kids or picks!
#44  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails2 on September 19, 2014, 10:11:25 PM
#44 now leading bid

Top bidder wins!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on September 19, 2014, 10:14:53 PM
Quote from: Nails2 on September 19, 2014, 10:11:25 PM
#44 now leading bid

Top bidder wins!
#40 :o
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails2 on September 19, 2014, 10:17:28 PM
#40 now leading.

Top bidder can walk away with a top 3 forward in the entire competition!

Don't miss your chance to pick up a 107 average forward!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 19, 2014, 10:17:45 PM
*Raises bidding paddle thingo*

N33!  8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on September 19, 2014, 10:20:56 PM
N24.

Here to flower shower up motherflowerers.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails2 on September 19, 2014, 10:21:22 PM
#33 now leading bid!

Also considering young players!

Get in early to avoid disappointment!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 19, 2014, 10:21:43 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 19, 2014, 10:20:56 PM
N24.

Here to flower shower up motherflowerers.
Not too old?  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on September 19, 2014, 10:22:01 PM
Quote from: Nails2 on September 19, 2014, 10:21:22 PM
#33 now leading bid!

Also considering young players!

Get in early to avoid disappointment!

24 actually
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 19, 2014, 10:22:40 PM
Lol won't be a forward next year
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on September 19, 2014, 10:22:52 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 19, 2014, 10:21:43 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 19, 2014, 10:20:56 PM
N24.

Here to flower shower up motherflowerers.
Not too old?  :P

NDT headed for 2015 success mate!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails2 on September 19, 2014, 10:23:39 PM
33
24

3 + 3 = 6
2 + 4 = 6

but 33 looks prettier

but nrich is assistant so I've decided 24 in the lead now.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 19, 2014, 10:24:39 PM
Quote from: Nails2 on September 19, 2014, 10:23:39 PM
33
24

3 + 3 = 6
2 + 4 = 6

but 33 looks prettier

but nrich is assistant so I've decided 24 in the lead now.
You're the coach, if you like 33. Go with 33.

I'll even tell you which gem to take with the pick.  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails2 on September 19, 2014, 10:26:30 PM
24 leading pick.  Private offers only considered if auction is passed in
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 19, 2014, 10:27:11 PM
Quote from: Nails2 on September 19, 2014, 10:26:30 PM
24 leading pick.  Private offers only considered if auction is passed in
33 and Jake Batchelor.  8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails2 on September 19, 2014, 10:28:13 PM
33 and batch now leading offer.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on September 19, 2014, 10:29:52 PM
Nails are you on chat?

Got lots of picks for sale.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on September 19, 2014, 10:30:15 PM
Quote from: Nails2 on September 19, 2014, 10:28:13 PM
33 and batch now leading offer.

33 + spud beats 24?

Pfft pls
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails2 on September 19, 2014, 10:30:58 PM
Nails seems to not want picks as vinny talked him out of it
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 19, 2014, 10:33:13 PM
Quote from: Nails2 on September 19, 2014, 10:30:58 PM
Nails seems to not want picks as vinny talked him out of it
Does Nails2 want picks?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on September 19, 2014, 10:45:27 PM
Hard to believe Nails2 is going to let Boomer go for pick 33 and Batchelor


WOW WHAT A STEAL!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on September 19, 2014, 10:46:07 PM
Quote from: Nails on September 19, 2014, 10:45:27 PM
Hard to believe Nails2 is going to let Boomer go for pick 33 and Batchelor


WOW WHAT A STEAL!

Not over yet, got higher picks on offer.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on September 19, 2014, 10:48:22 PM
I think he's only accepting public offers. He said something about private offers only considered if auction gets passed in.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on September 19, 2014, 10:56:25 PM
Quote from: Nails on September 19, 2014, 10:48:22 PM
I think he's only accepting public offers. He said something about private offers only considered if auction gets passed in.

well you have quite a few old guys your looking to move I have the high picks but want to negotiate a deal.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on September 19, 2014, 10:57:00 PM
Brent Harvey is in an auction, IDK if he can be discussed, better get your bid on!

Problem is I can't really trade a bunch of old guys for picks as you wish

as I'm only 2.4K above the cap - Brent Harvey = 1.8K = 600 points above cap...

I need players now.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on September 19, 2014, 10:57:58 PM
Quote from: Nails on September 19, 2014, 10:57:00 PM
Brent Harvey is in an auction, IDK if he can be discussed, better get your bid on!

do you have any other players your selling as well?

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on September 19, 2014, 10:58:38 PM
check edited post mate.

Robert Warnock available for a kid - doesn't have to be the best kid. I know a few teams have inquired.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on September 19, 2014, 11:01:11 PM
Warnock for Dan Talia. Young AA defender for a third choice ruck. You win.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on September 19, 2014, 11:04:38 PM
21 + Grigg + Delaney + 39 + 57 for Chapman + Kelly
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on September 19, 2014, 11:05:55 PM
Which Delaney? Which grigg?

Not sure I like that too much, plus those two are available for private sale :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on September 19, 2014, 11:08:19 PM
Quote from: Nails on September 19, 2014, 11:05:55 PM
Which Delaney? Which grigg?

Not sure I like that too much, plus those two are available for private sale :P

well either delaney but luke plays.

Shuan Grigg

counts as under 1500 lost for you.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on September 19, 2014, 11:12:57 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 19, 2014, 11:01:11 PM
Warnock for Dan Talia. Young AA defender for a third choice ruck. You win.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on September 20, 2014, 03:53:23 PM
Quote from: Honey Badger on September 19, 2014, 05:54:25 PM
Breaking News!!!!


Rumour had it that the head coach of the Pumas had called a press conference to announce some breaking news! The reporters rushed to the Puma headquarters, but were sadly too late as Honey Badger had already left to go get drunk for the evening at an open bar nearby. Sadly we will have to wait until tomorrow to find out what this important news is, which could affect a few other clubs in the league...  :o

WAITING!!!!!

LOL
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on September 20, 2014, 03:57:09 PM
Let me guess.

This stoned flowerer is going on the table. Gun!!

(http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/Collingwood/Images/131115_armstrong300.jpg)

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 20, 2014, 04:03:13 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on September 20, 2014, 03:53:23 PM
Quote from: Honey Badger on September 19, 2014, 05:54:25 PM
Breaking News!!!!


Rumour had it that the head coach of the Pumas had called a press conference to announce some breaking news! The reporters rushed to the Puma headquarters, but were sadly too late as Honey Badger had already left to go get drunk for the evening at an open bar nearby. Sadly we will have to wait until tomorrow to find out what this important news is, which could affect a few other clubs in the league...  :o

WAITING!!!!!

LOL
(http://cdn.overclock.net/b/b4/500x375px-LL-b43ddc98_Op_will_surely_deliver_Weird_Video_Game_Facts_Part_7-s500x375-138152-535.jpeg)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on September 20, 2014, 04:04:42 PM
So I looked at the OP after that meme for no reason and saw the HGA thingy, is that from t10?! :o
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on September 20, 2014, 04:06:01 PM
Quote from: Vinny on September 20, 2014, 04:04:42 PM
So I looked at the OP after that meme for no reason and saw the HGA thingy, is that from t10?! :o

No it's something I put a lot of work for in 2013 which Ossie didn't even implement ::)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 20, 2014, 04:07:51 PM
Quote from: Nails on September 20, 2014, 04:06:01 PM
Quote from: Vinny on September 20, 2014, 04:04:42 PM
So I looked at the OP after that meme for no reason and saw the HGA thingy, is that from t10?! :o

No it's something I put a lot of work for in 2013 which Ossie didn't even implement ::)

You mean this?

(http://i.imgur.com/EcarsPs.png)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on September 20, 2014, 04:09:47 PM
and others.

They actually took a good 30 minutes plus the advanced ones.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 20, 2014, 04:09:56 PM
Oh the memories.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on September 20, 2014, 04:12:00 PM
Hahahahaha that is amazing
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on September 20, 2014, 04:14:12 PM
Wow hahahaha, teach me Nails
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on September 20, 2014, 04:19:58 PM
Quote from: Nails on April 25, 2013, 01:59:51 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/3fpirmP.png)

Simple:
D - Brennan, Scotland, Burgoyne, SD Thompson
M - Swan (C), Kornes (VC), Barlow, Boyd
R - Cox
F - Petrie, Chapman, Johnson, Schulz
INT - Cross, Gilbert
EMG - Carrazzo, Bradley, Johncock

Apologies for the potential page wrecking large graphic. It was needed to accomplish what I wanted.

http://i.imgur.com/3fpirmP.png

^ Link to full size graphic so you can read it all. Didn't realise it'd be ruined by stupid flowering graphic limitations on FF.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 20, 2014, 04:22:55 PM
Not gonna lie, that ^ was my all time favourite. 
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on September 20, 2014, 04:36:07 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 20, 2014, 04:22:55 PM
Not gonna lie, that ^ was my all time favourite.
I enjoyed it since they then lost the match :P

Also I'm at work so announcement will be tonight.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on September 20, 2014, 06:59:03 PM
Ok so home from work so might as well make the big announcement now...


The Pumas would like to announce that they have cut ties with the New Delhi Tigers, ending the SPNT alliance effective immediately. There are a few reasons for this, however the main sticking point is the Puma board felt that this was not an even alliance, with the Tigers benefiting more by taking from the Pumas, but not giving much back in return.

So there you have it. Hope it was worth the wait :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 20, 2014, 07:29:11 PM
Quote from: Honey Badger on September 20, 2014, 06:59:03 PM
Ok so home from work so might as well make the big announcement now...


The Pumas would like to announce that they have cut ties with the New Delhi Tigers, ending the SPNT alliance effective immediately. There are a few reasons for this, however the main sticking point is the Puma board felt that this was not an even alliance, with the Tigers benefiting more by taking from the Pumas, but not giving much back in return.

So there you have it. Hope it was worth the wait :P
Nah, flower this. You guys are definitely still flowering aligned conspiring together to make showerty announcements and getting us all hyped up.  :P

(http://media.tumblr.com/557608efbca7746988027fa7a5ea3e13/tumblr_inline_muywwq6tcA1rya2ad.gif)

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 20, 2014, 07:34:46 PM
Sacked.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on September 20, 2014, 07:35:32 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 20, 2014, 07:29:11 PM
Quote from: Honey Badger on September 20, 2014, 06:59:03 PM
Ok so home from work so might as well make the big announcement now...


The Pumas would like to announce that they have cut ties with the New Delhi Tigers, ending the SPNT alliance effective immediately. There are a few reasons for this, however the main sticking point is the Puma board felt that this was not an even alliance, with the Tigers benefiting more by taking from the Pumas, but not giving much back in return.

So there you have it. Hope it was worth the wait :P
Nah, flower this. You guys are definitely still flowering aligned conspiring together to make showerty announcements and getting us all hyped up.  :P

(http://media.tumblr.com/557608efbca7746988027fa7a5ea3e13/tumblr_inline_muywwq6tcA1rya2ad.gif)

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

THIS
THIS
THIS
THIS
THIS
THIS
THIS
THIS
THIS
THIS
THIS
THIS
THIS
THIS
THIS
THIS
THIS
THIS
THIS
THIS
THIS
THIS
THIS
THIS
THIS
THIS
THIS
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 20, 2014, 07:37:56 PM
(https://i.imgflip.com/1jbw7.gif)

I'll just wait for the real announcement.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 20, 2014, 07:38:02 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 20, 2014, 07:34:46 PM
Sacked.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on September 20, 2014, 07:38:26 PM
Replace HB with Tbag.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 20, 2014, 07:39:16 PM
Quote from: Nails on September 20, 2014, 07:38:26 PM
Replace HB with KB.

Fixed
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on September 20, 2014, 07:39:37 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 20, 2014, 07:39:16 PM
Quote from: Nails on September 20, 2014, 07:38:26 PM
Replace HB with nrich.

Fixed
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on September 20, 2014, 07:42:42 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on September 20, 2014, 07:39:37 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 20, 2014, 07:39:16 PM
Quote from: Nails on September 20, 2014, 07:38:26 PM
Replace HB with nrich.

Fixed

sacked.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on September 20, 2014, 07:44:55 PM
Nails  :'(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on September 20, 2014, 08:03:45 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 20, 2014, 07:34:46 PM
Sacked.
Think it's a bit harsh to sack LE just because he couldn't maintain an alliance with me... But your the boss. Sorry LE :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on September 20, 2014, 09:50:45 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 19, 2014, 06:31:56 PM
Hehehe I know what it issss

^ 100% expected it. We don't want that player :P if that means we end the alliance, so be it! :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 24, 2014, 04:57:33 PM
Hey guys, minor announcement, nothing on the scale of the ones you get out of New Delhi or Sao Paulo though. :P

I'd like to announce that Pkbaldy is joining ML and I at the Cairo Sands as an assistant.  8)

You've probably seen him around the P&T boards a little and the St Kilda/AFL boards of late. He's a pretty good SCer and top bloke, please make him welcome!

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 24, 2014, 05:16:03 PM

welcome!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 24, 2014, 05:19:52 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 24, 2014, 04:57:33 PM
Hey guys, minor announcement, nothing on the scale of the ones you get out of New Delhi or Sao Paulo though. :P

I'd like to announce that Pkbaldy is joining ML and I at the Cairo Sands as an assistant.  8)

You've probably seen him around the P&T boards a little and the St Kilda/AFL boards of late. He's a pretty good SCer and top bloke, please make him welcome!

Nice on PK

Yeah he is a champ - we often chat about our trade plans during the SC season

You'll enjoy WXV mate, it's a lot of fun!  ;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 24, 2014, 05:27:06 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 24, 2014, 05:19:52 PM
You'll enjoy WXV mate, it's a lot of fun!  ;D
It's even better when you're at Cairo.  8)

(http://3qdigital.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Smug.gif)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on September 24, 2014, 05:28:14 PM
Welcome pk, good to have you on board 8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 24, 2014, 05:31:43 PM
Should add that Toga, Ric and Dave can all confirm my above statement btw.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on September 24, 2014, 05:43:35 PM
I can confirm....



That NDT >>>>>> Cairo 8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 24, 2014, 05:44:06 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 24, 2014, 05:43:35 PM
I can confirm....



That NDT >>>>>> Cairo 8)
You're welcome for your boy Clancee.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 26, 2014, 02:57:23 PM

Hey guys,

Which draft do we want pre-signed rookies like Cian Hanley to go into?

Previously we've put them in the International Draft, and think that's a fair way to go, but if a strong preference to put them in the pre-season/rookie drafts will hear thoughts...

...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on September 26, 2014, 03:00:23 PM
my thougts are preseason rookie as those drafts are very very shallow.

should help abit with equlisation as the PSD picks now have some valuable and if you want to target some of those players you will need to compensate the weaker teams.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on September 26, 2014, 09:00:03 PM
Yeah I agree it would make the preseason/rookie drafts a bit deeper which would only be a good thing.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on September 26, 2014, 09:02:56 PM
Agree with the others, could chuck in those pre-signed rookies into the PSD/Rookie draft. International draft already carries some weight, whereas PSD/Rookie drafts getting overlooked a bit so doesn't hurt to have these guys in there. As think more will be looking at delisted players in the Nat draft, so gives the rookie draft a bit more oomph :P.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on September 27, 2014, 09:54:16 AM
I too vote PSD/rookie draft.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: AaronKirk on September 27, 2014, 09:58:29 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 27, 2014, 09:54:16 AM
I too vote PSD/rookie draft.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 27, 2014, 10:20:39 AM
Yep, into the PSd/Rookie draft they go.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 27, 2014, 12:12:32 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on September 27, 2014, 09:58:29 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 27, 2014, 09:54:16 AM
I too vote PSD/rookie draft.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 27, 2014, 01:38:23 PM
Agree PSD/Rookie draft just as long as London can pre-select the rookie.  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on September 27, 2014, 01:46:47 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 27, 2014, 01:38:23 PM
Agree PSD/Rookie draft just as long as London can pre-select the rookie.  ;)
Stay away, he is ours >:D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on September 27, 2014, 01:58:20 PM
I think if the player comes from your country you can pre select like father son.


Come on down Irish players.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 28, 2014, 11:17:17 AM

Have a mammoth announcement coming soon guys

It could mean that trading is suspended for a little bit after tonight.

Stay tuned
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 28, 2014, 11:25:38 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 28, 2014, 11:17:17 AM

Have a mammoth announcement coming soon guys

It could mean that trading is suspended for a little bit after tonight.

Stay tuned
:o

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on September 28, 2014, 11:26:10 AM
Massive.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on September 28, 2014, 11:38:24 AM
You can't suspend leaving us 12 hours to fix our rejected trade ::)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on September 28, 2014, 11:44:25 AM
Quote from: Nails on September 28, 2014, 11:38:24 AM
You can't suspend leaving us 12 hours to fix our rejected trade ::)

Wtf are you waiting for then!? Htfu!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on September 28, 2014, 01:09:42 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 28, 2014, 11:17:17 AM

Have a mammoth announcement coming soon guys

It could mean that trading is suspended for a little bit after tonight.

Stay tuned

You're giving Zac Dawson 60 extra points a game?

Otherwise, this is over-hyped  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 28, 2014, 02:19:32 PM
Honey Badger, founding member of WXVs, amazing contributor and premiership coach has resigned. He'll focus on a thing called 'life'  next year :p

This gives a huge opportunity going forward, with a team who finished top 3 every year on the cards.

I floated an idea to combine squads privately with some coaches, but support for this was limited.

Before I advertise can anyone who is also thinking of quitting please contact me via pm

Happy for discussions on the Way forward

Thanks again Honey Badger
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on September 28, 2014, 02:21:11 PM
HB  :'(

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 28, 2014, 02:25:46 PM
Congrats on your WXV success HB.

Time away from FF is something a few more of us probably need to do as well :P

So I guess some lucky bugger is going to get handed a very good side in the Pumas?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on September 28, 2014, 02:31:58 PM
Good luck CF!

Whoever gets this team is bloody lucky :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on September 28, 2014, 02:33:59 PM
Guess after finishing his degree, out to the real world he goes! Best of luck HB and hopefully you pop in occasionally still when you have time :D.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: AaronKirk on September 28, 2014, 02:34:12 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 28, 2014, 02:31:58 PM
Good luck CF!

Whoever gets this team is bloody lucky :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 28, 2014, 02:34:18 PM
thanks for what you have have done HB/CF.  You have built a team and whoever takes over will have a solid team.

All the best to you as I think from memory you have now completed your degree and joining the real world so enjoy. Welcome to comment any time.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on September 28, 2014, 03:10:30 PM
One of the very best coaches, in term of skill, activeness and pioneer (a founder coach and one of the first (maybe the first?) to introduce graphics) IMO, thank you CF/HB for being an outstanding member of the WXV community. So all the best!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 28, 2014, 03:24:15 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 28, 2014, 03:10:30 PM
One of the very best coaches, in term of skill, activeness and pioneer (a founder coach and one of the first (maybe the first?) to introduce graphics) IMO, thank you CF/HB for being an outstanding member of the WXV community. So all the best!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on September 28, 2014, 04:05:29 PM
One of the elite coaches, amazing to keep the team up the top for soo long and it still looks like it can stay around for years. Best of luck HB with your job next year.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on September 28, 2014, 04:52:22 PM
sad to see you go HB your a legend mate and always had great dealings with you

(though could of traded PNL some starts before you resigned :P ....)...lol
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on September 28, 2014, 05:35:56 PM
Thanks for the messages guys. I will still stick around FF and keep an eye on how the worlds is progressing. Just felt that next year I'm not going to have the time to run the team to the same standard as I had been, so thought I would give it up now so that whoever takes over can have some control over trades and draft selections rather than just being stuck with my squad. Must stress that this was a very hard decision to make!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on September 28, 2014, 06:04:13 PM
Quote from: Honey Badger on September 28, 2014, 05:35:56 PM
Thanks for the messages guys. I will still stick around FF and keep an eye on how the worlds is progressing. Just felt that next year I'm not going to have the time to run the team to the same standard as I had been, so thought I would give it up now so that whoever takes over can have some control over trades and draft selections rather than just being stuck with my squad. Must stress that this was a very hard decision to make!
Good call, congrats on your career, you're a champ  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on September 28, 2014, 06:41:24 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 28, 2014, 03:24:15 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 28, 2014, 03:10:30 PM
One of the very best coaches, in term of skill, activeness and pioneer (a founder coach and one of the first (maybe the first?) to introduce graphics) IMO, thank you CF/HB for being an outstanding member of the WXV community. So all the best!
^^^^

Well said, Purps!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on September 29, 2014, 10:13:53 AM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 28, 2014, 06:41:24 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 28, 2014, 03:24:15 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 28, 2014, 03:10:30 PM
One of the very best coaches, in term of skill, activeness and pioneer (a founder coach and one of the first (maybe the first?) to introduce graphics) IMO, thank you CF/HB for being an outstanding member of the WXV community. So all the best!
^^^^

Well said, Purps!
Agreed!  :) Thanks for everything CF/HB!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 29, 2014, 04:45:42 PM
Ok guys

I'd like to retire the Sao Paulo Pumas. They are a franchise that have achieved the pinnacle of success, it seems fitting that they retire with Honey Badger plus it gives a more challenging aspect to the new coach that arrives.

What I propose is that each of the 17 other teams pick a player from the Pumas (in reverse ladder order, so)

1. Pacific
2. Beijing
3. New Delhi
4. Wellington
5. New York
6. Tokyo
7. Seoul
8. London
9. Berlin
10. Cairo
11. Toronto
12. PNL
13. Cape Town
14. Moscow
15. Buenos Aires
16. Mexico City
17. Dublin


BUT there will be a twist at the end, which I don't think works all that well if you know it in advance, so will let people know after drafting has been completed what it is. Don't worry, you aren't locked into any decision.


The new team will be the RIO DE JANEIRO JAGUARS - a city who have a massive increase in infrastructure recently. And this is the squad that will go to the new coach. Don't worry, they won't be completely ravaged. They will be compensated in a way that does not impact current draft order (from the 'twist' above).

Thoughts?

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 29, 2014, 04:54:16 PM
I like the idea of retiring the Pumas with HB

This idea of yours does have me intrigued for sure!

*Starts to ponder who we could get with Pick 5* :D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 29, 2014, 05:01:05 PM
I don't mind it.

That reverse ladder position could be interesting given how teams such as Pacific and New York have done over the trading period.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 29, 2014, 05:02:49 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 29, 2014, 04:54:16 PM
I like the idea of retiring the Pumas with HB

This idea of yours does have me intrigued for sure!

*Starts to ponder who we could get with Pick 5* :D

can't trade these ones
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 29, 2014, 05:05:17 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 29, 2014, 05:02:49 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 29, 2014, 04:54:16 PM
I like the idea of retiring the Pumas with HB

This idea of yours does have me intrigued for sure!

*Starts to ponder who we could get with Pick 5* :D

can't trade these ones
Assuming he meant 'who we could get' as who we could pick/draft.  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 29, 2014, 05:06:18 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 29, 2014, 05:02:49 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 29, 2014, 04:54:16 PM
I like the idea of retiring the Pumas with HB

This idea of yours does have me intrigued for sure!

*Starts to ponder who we could get with Pick 5* :D

can't trade these ones

Wouldnt want to

There are plenty of guns up for grabs, so with Pick 5 we would get a great player

Ablett will be the first to go obviously, but then it opens up depending on team requirements
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 29, 2014, 05:12:12 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 29, 2014, 05:06:18 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 29, 2014, 05:02:49 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 29, 2014, 04:54:16 PM
I like the idea of retiring the Pumas with HB

This idea of yours does have me intrigued for sure!

*Starts to ponder who we could get with Pick 5* :D

can't trade these ones

Wouldnt want to

There are plenty of guns up for grabs, so with Pick 5 we would get a great player

Ablett will be the first to go obviously, but then it opens up depending on team requirements
I actually wouldn't be surprised to see somebody other than GAJ go first if it happened...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 29, 2014, 05:13:41 PM
Personally I would rather see the Pumas retired with all players transferred to the new franchise and a new coach.  Much more palatable although given that we do not know the twist.

Just do not see you can rape a team of their 17 best players and hope for them to be competitive without concessions which is obviously the twist.

Also what happens to trades completed so far by Pumas.

So in summary feel it is messy to disband a  team in the middle of trade season and then through in a twist hence my suggestion for a relocation aka South Melbourne to a new franchise and in South Melbournes case the Sydney Swans.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 29, 2014, 05:17:01 PM
need to know the twist before liking it really
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on September 29, 2014, 05:17:51 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 29, 2014, 05:13:41 PM
Personally I would rather see the Pumas retired with all players transferred to the new franchise and a new coach.  Much more palatable although given that we do not know the twist.

Just do not see you can rape a team of their 17 best players and hope for them to be competitive without concessions which is obviously the twist.

Also what happens to trades completed so far by Pumas.

So in summary feel it is messy to disband a  team in the middle of trade season and then through in a twist hence my suggestion for a relocation aka South Melbourne to a new franchise and in South Melbournes case the Sydney Swans.

Agree with this it seems unnecessary and while interesting will cause problems. I don't want anyone from that team and I don't want any of my players taken from my squad (which I assume is the twist).

HB has built a good list someone should continue that legacy. It's also pretty unfair doing this draft as teams like dillos get absolutely shafted and the drop off in players is massive.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 29, 2014, 05:19:33 PM
how can u not want anybody from there list :o
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on September 29, 2014, 05:33:09 PM
Quote from: Holzman on September 29, 2014, 05:17:51 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 29, 2014, 05:13:41 PM
Personally I would rather see the Pumas retired with all players transferred to the new franchise and a new coach.  Much more palatable although given that we do not know the twist.

Just do not see you can rape a team of their 17 best players and hope for them to be competitive without concessions which is obviously the twist.

Also what happens to trades completed so far by Pumas.

So in summary feel it is messy to disband a  team in the middle of trade season and then through in a twist hence my suggestion for a relocation aka South Melbourne to a new franchise and in South Melbournes case the Sydney Swans.

Agree with this it seems unnecessary and while interesting will cause problems. I don't want anyone from that team and I don't want any of my players taken from my squad (which I assume is the twist).

HB has built a good list someone should continue that legacy. It's also pretty unfair doing this draft as teams like dillos get absolutely shafted and the drop off in players is massive.

that has to be the twist imo
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 29, 2014, 05:38:08 PM
Something different I like it see how it goes
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on September 29, 2014, 05:45:44 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 29, 2014, 05:19:33 PM
how can u not want anybody from there list :o

Because I build my squad bu trading and Nat drafts .
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 29, 2014, 05:47:10 PM
Quote from: Holzman on September 29, 2014, 05:45:44 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 29, 2014, 05:19:33 PM
how can u not want anybody from there list :o

Because I build my squad bu trading and Nat drafts .

so take one of the players and trade him :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on September 29, 2014, 05:58:04 PM
Dislike this idea.

Retiring the team is ok but replace it with a new team with all these players or completely fold the team and have a draft for their players as British XVs have done this off season. But, that means another team needs to fold as having an uneven amount of teams doesn't work.

Perhaps if we'd known in advance if the offseason it was going to happen. But, not now all these trades have already been done.

For example if the twist is the new coach gets to pick 1 player from all the other teams to replace those being taken and they took Martin from us then we are screwed because we have already traded Z Smith.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 29, 2014, 06:02:05 PM
You wouldn't be locked into anything

no players will get poached
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on September 29, 2014, 06:04:42 PM
This would solve some of the equalisation issues for sure!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: AaronKirk on September 29, 2014, 06:13:04 PM
I'm not too fussed imo. disbanding the team and having a draft for Sao Paolo players is definitely an exciting option.

Could help even up the comp so I am for it.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on September 29, 2014, 06:29:12 PM
Interesting idea.... Really depends what this twist is as others say as if drafts and stuff are done, and there is no poaching, I have no idea what it could be unless it's like future draft picks or something.

But yeah, alot of thinking to go into it if disbanding the team and restarting a new one.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on September 29, 2014, 06:50:21 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 29, 2014, 05:13:41 PM
Personally I would rather see the Pumas retired with all players transferred to the new franchise and a new coach.  Much more palatable although given that we do not know the twist.

Just do not see you can rape a team of their 17 best players and hope for them to be competitive without concessions which is obviously the twist.

Also what happens to trades completed so far by Pumas.

So in summary feel it is messy to disband a  team in the middle of trade season and then through in a twist hence my suggestion for a relocation aka South Melbourne to a new franchise and in South Melbournes case the Sydney Swans.

Woah, Ringo said the 'r' word...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on September 29, 2014, 06:54:54 PM
I am pretty sure I've warned others for using that word on the forum, so here is a warning Ringo! Careful next time ;).
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on September 29, 2014, 06:56:15 PM
Wow you don't have to retire the Pumas just because I am gone! Very touching though! Great that the new team (if it happens) will already have a logo :)

(http://i.imgur.com/Vg9Zvfw.png)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on September 29, 2014, 07:01:03 PM
not poached? hmmm

I was thinking the twist would be

Team with pick 1 - jaguars can pick anyone from their team, just as team with pick 1 could pick anyone

Team with pick 2 - they get 1 safe player and jaguars can pick anyone other than them... just how team 2 could pick anyone except the safe player

Team 17 - they're allowed to allocate 16 safe players - jaguars can pick anyone outside this 16.

So like obviously team 17 gets to pick the 17th best player from Jaguars - therefore Jaguars can pick 17th best player from their squad.

I thought this might have been the "twist" but ossie said no poaching. Unless safe players = not poaching?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 29, 2014, 07:02:40 PM
Nice theory Nails - could be on the money

No poaching but dismantling the Pumas

We need to know what the Twist is, otherwise I dont think we will get a definitive answer on this idea
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 29, 2014, 07:04:24 PM
Quote from: Nails on September 29, 2014, 07:01:03 PM
not poached? hmmm

I was thinking the twist would be

Team with pick 1 - jaguars can pick anyone from their team, just as team with pick 1 could pick anyone

Team with pick 2 - they get 1 safe player and jaguars can pick anyone other than them... just how team 2 could pick anyone except the safe player

Team 17 - they're allowed to allocate 16 safe players - jaguars can pick anyone outside this 16.

So like obviously team 17 gets to pick the 17th best player from Jaguars - therefore Jaguars can pick 17th best player from their squad.

I thought this might have been the "twist" but ossie said no poaching. Unless safe players = not poaching?
Yeah, I was thinking that this is how it was going to work as well. It makes sense and seems fair imo.

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 29, 2014, 07:02:40 PM
We need to know what the Twist is, otherwise I dont think we will get a definitive answer on this idea
This is also true, it could get messy and lead to a bit of angst if the twist is something that doesn't sit with a number of coaches, because we'd be back to square one and where we were just a day or two ago with all the doging and all that jazz.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 29, 2014, 07:10:51 PM
Yea nails idea sounds good
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on September 29, 2014, 07:20:26 PM
Quote from: Nails on September 29, 2014, 07:01:03 PM
not poached? hmmm

I was thinking the twist would be

Team with pick 1 - jaguars can pick anyone from their team, just as team with pick 1 could pick anyone

Team with pick 2 - they get 1 safe player and jaguars can pick anyone other than them... just how team 2 could pick anyone except the safe player

Team 17 - they're allowed to allocate 16 safe players - jaguars can pick anyone outside this 16.

So like obviously team 17 gets to pick the 17th best player from Jaguars - therefore Jaguars can pick 17th best player from their squad.

I thought this might have been the "twist" but ossie said no poaching. Unless safe players = not poaching?
In which case I'd be happy to have pick 13!

The Jaguars would end up with a completely different squad. That'd be seriously interesting. Wouldn't mind an option to pass though...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 29, 2014, 07:22:13 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 29, 2014, 07:20:26 PM
Quote from: Nails on September 29, 2014, 07:01:03 PM
not poached? hmmm

I was thinking the twist would be

Team with pick 1 - jaguars can pick anyone from their team, just as team with pick 1 could pick anyone

Team with pick 2 - they get 1 safe player and jaguars can pick anyone other than them... just how team 2 could pick anyone except the safe player

Team 17 - they're allowed to allocate 16 safe players - jaguars can pick anyone outside this 16.

So like obviously team 17 gets to pick the 17th best player from Jaguars - therefore Jaguars can pick 17th best player from their squad.

I thought this might have been the "twist" but ossie said no poaching. Unless safe players = not poaching?
In which case I'd be happy to have pick 13!

The Jaguars would end up with a completely different squad. That'd be seriously interesting. Wouldn't mind an option to pass though...

I think youd have to pick a player and then choose to pass or not after that. Otherwise Dublin could get  14th best player with pick 17 for example.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on September 29, 2014, 07:22:42 PM
Yeh not sure what to make of it without knowing the twist
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 29, 2014, 07:23:29 PM
I'm starting to get the feeling that this could get really messy. Perhaps just giving the new coach SP would be easier, but then again this seems like much more fun!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on September 29, 2014, 07:25:51 PM
Poaching makes it all a bit messy
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on September 29, 2014, 07:41:54 PM
Tell us the twist then put it to a vote...

It will affect some teams in some way surely. Otherwise the new team will just be a basket case and that's not in the best interests of the competition.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on September 29, 2014, 08:04:16 PM
Something like this had to come up at one point or another, I honestly think this is the time to do it.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: pothead on September 29, 2014, 08:54:28 PM
Hey guys due to some different reasons in the last month i have had very limited access to World XVs which has therefore made it very hard for me to coach the warriors and reply to any other coaches messages sorry, so after coaching the Warriors for 3 now since the Competition started, so i am sadly resigning from the job of head coach at the warriors as i feel i am not able to coach up to the standards needed with the access i have at the moment, Ill thank Ossie for running the World XVs as it couldnt run as well as it does without the effort that Ossie puts in.
Cheers guys,
Pothead
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 29, 2014, 08:57:58 PM
Whoa.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on September 29, 2014, 09:00:29 PM
As the saying goes, too much pot, not enough time.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on September 29, 2014, 09:01:36 PM
Good move man, if you feel you can't put in the effort required to run the team then that's the right move.
Congrats on what you've done  :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on September 29, 2014, 09:03:32 PM
Wow another coach resigning. Thats sad to hear mate


Does this open up the opportunity for a 16 team comp? Would certainly help solve some equalisation issues
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on September 29, 2014, 09:04:34 PM
I might be taking on assistants with all my teams next year. Starting an actual job I might not be able to be on Friday night so who knows what will happen with Dildos ATM.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on September 29, 2014, 09:05:49 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 29, 2014, 09:03:32 PM
Wow another coach resigning. Thats sad to hear mate


Does this open up the opportunity for a 16 team comp? Would certainly help solve some equalisation issues
Could definitely see this as a good option, like what Brits have done.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 29, 2014, 09:06:42 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 29, 2014, 09:03:32 PM
Wow another coach resigning. Thats sad to hear mate

Does this open up the opportunity for a 16 team comp? Would certainly help solve some equalisation issues
Yeah, I think so.

I think it could be the best option. Would certainly help teams like Beijing and NDT (Pacific seem to be fine).
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on September 29, 2014, 09:07:14 PM
Quote from: Nails on September 29, 2014, 09:04:34 PM
I might be taking on assistants with all my teams next year. Starting an actual job I might not be able to be on Friday night so who knows what will happen with Dildos ATM.
Some of your current assistants may be called upon to coach  :-X
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on September 29, 2014, 09:09:31 PM
Quote from: Master Q on September 29, 2014, 09:07:14 PM
Quote from: Nails on September 29, 2014, 09:04:34 PM
I might be taking on assistants with all my teams next year. Starting an actual job I might not be able to be on Friday night so who knows what will happen with Dildos ATM.
Some of your current assistants may be called upon to coach  :-X
I won't be able to.  :-\
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on September 29, 2014, 09:10:43 PM
I'd never give a team up unless it gets really bad. I'll just fill myself with AFL quality coaching teams.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on September 29, 2014, 09:16:09 PM
ohhh so assuming Oss knew about pot pulling the pin

then the twist is the rest of the puma's merged with the warriors and introducing a bye system?

dunno just spitballin
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 29, 2014, 09:28:11 PM
Bye system would be terrible
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 29, 2014, 09:34:09 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 29, 2014, 09:28:11 PM
Bye system would be terrible
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on September 29, 2014, 09:51:04 PM
Quote from: Nails on September 29, 2014, 09:04:34 PM
I might not be able to be on Friday night so who knows what will happen with Dildos

???
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 29, 2014, 10:01:25 PM
So we have 2 teams without coaches now

I'm with Rico. I like the idea of shutting them down and spreading them across the 16 teams

Will bring some real balance to the comp

Os is going to have his hands full now! (Not as if he didn't already)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on September 29, 2014, 11:25:17 PM
Snake draft of every player from Pumas + Warriors?

ABBABAB (if that makes sense) format based on positions from this year. If Pacific, NDT and Beijing could get GAJ, Sloane and Murphy it would even the comp out significantly. And if good teams are picking up solid players at picks 12-20 I don't think there'd be many complaints.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on September 29, 2014, 11:25:50 PM
What about Dildos? :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 29, 2014, 11:26:47 PM
What about KB ?  :'(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on September 29, 2014, 11:28:24 PM
Quote from: Vinny on September 29, 2014, 11:25:50 PM
What about Dildos? :(
Paying for what is going to be a complete bottom out. You'd probably be able to pick up two very handy youngsters though.

Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 29, 2014, 11:26:47 PM
What about KB ?  :'(
... what about KB?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on September 29, 2014, 11:30:04 PM
Haha yeah there is a fair selection. Wouldn't mind holding this off a season and going off next seasons order. ;) :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on September 29, 2014, 11:32:11 PM
Fuk da snake. Give NDT all the good players.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on September 29, 2014, 11:34:59 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 29, 2014, 11:32:11 PM
Fuk da snake. Give NDT all the good players.
''We don't want handouts.'' ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on September 29, 2014, 11:46:52 PM
Quote from: Vinny on September 29, 2014, 11:34:59 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 29, 2014, 11:32:11 PM
Fuk da snake. Give NDT all the good players.
''We don't want handouts.'' ;)

Haha its completely different if everyone else is getting handouts too ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 29, 2014, 11:55:30 PM
Yea no snake we have positions  worked out snakes are only for initial drafts
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on September 30, 2014, 12:30:20 AM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 29, 2014, 11:55:30 PM
Yea no snake we have positions  worked out snakes are only for initial drafts
But the difference is too big between the top picks and the later ones IMO
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on September 30, 2014, 12:33:56 AM
I'd say no snake if before trading period

but as some teams are significantly stronger - NYR for example and some significantly weaker - dildos

I think picking off ladder order would rek it.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on September 30, 2014, 12:35:27 AM
Maybe average out the last 3 years positions.

so Dublin 18 + 9 + 1 so give me the 10th best pick.

seems fair.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on September 30, 2014, 12:58:25 AM
Quote from: Holz on September 30, 2014, 12:35:27 AM
Maybe average out the last 3 years positions.

so Dublin 18 + 9 + 1 so give me the 10th best pick.

seems fair.
Just let Ossie decide order if that, he can objectively look at the team lists and say which is weakest/strongest. Cause Dublin don't even need a pick ;).
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: MajorLazer on September 30, 2014, 01:01:58 AM
Yep. Like the idea of Os doing it.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on September 30, 2014, 01:02:29 AM
Dublin get 0 picks but their trade with dildos gets put through.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on September 30, 2014, 01:05:12 AM
Quote from: Hellopplz on September 30, 2014, 12:58:25 AM
Quote from: Holz on September 30, 2014, 12:35:27 AM
Maybe average out the last 3 years positions.

so Dublin 18 + 9 + 1 so give me the 10th best pick.

seems fair.
Just let Ossie decide order if that, he can objectively look at the team lists and say which is weakest/strongest. Cause Dublin don't even need a pick ;).

what are you talking about I have Daniel Wells and DavidMundy on my interchange bench than nothing in the mids. I need Ablett.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 30, 2014, 07:46:03 AM
Nope just heard about pothead now!

Changes everything :/

I'd still want 18 teams... Think it works better. Thoughts from others?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on September 30, 2014, 07:49:36 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 30, 2014, 07:46:03 AM
Nope just heard about pothead now!

Changes everything :/

I'd still want 18 teams... Think it works better. Thoughts from others?
i personally like 18 as well it models on the AFL perfectly

and for equalization well as Holz just posted Dublin have gone 18th into 9th into premiers so shows it can be done imo
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 30, 2014, 07:58:50 AM
How about the Rio de Janeiro Jaguars and Christchurch Saints pick squads from all the Sao Paulo and Wellington players?

And we just keep the rest as normal
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 30, 2014, 08:05:53 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 30, 2014, 07:58:50 AM
How about the Rio de Janeiro Jaguars and Christchurch Saints pick squads from all the Sao Paulo and Wellington players?

And we just keep the rest as normal

with the ability to trade picks? :o ;)

you would obviously have to be strict approving trades like making sure they are getting Best XV players in return for early picks but gives coaches a chance to pick and choose the team more

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on September 30, 2014, 08:32:23 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 30, 2014, 07:58:50 AM
How about the Rio de Janeiro Jaguars and Christchurch Saints pick squads from all the Sao Paulo and Wellington players?

And we just keep the rest as normal

This is what I would prefer personally. I think it appropriate to retire the Pumas and Weta Warriors as they have been coaches for 3 years, and create two new teams out of those players. 18 team model is what I would vote for.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on September 30, 2014, 08:39:17 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 30, 2014, 08:32:23 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 30, 2014, 07:58:50 AM
How about the Rio de Janeiro Jaguars and Christchurch Saints pick squads from all the Sao Paulo and Wellington players?

And we just keep the rest as normal

This is what I would prefer personally. I think it appropriate to retire the Pumas and Weta Warriors as they have been coaches for 3 years, and create two new teams out of those players. 18 team model is what I would vote for.
This might be the best option from here.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 30, 2014, 08:44:00 AM
Guys if anyone else is thinking of resigning, now'd be the time to do it
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on September 30, 2014, 08:46:14 AM
Would rather 18 but think 16 is better for more equal best 15s. Means the lesser teams field a 90-100+ player over a 50ave Player while the top teams may only gain 10-20pts
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 30, 2014, 08:52:55 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 30, 2014, 08:46:14 AM
Would rather 18 but think 16 is better for more equal best 15s. Means the lesser teams field a 90-100+ player over a 50ave Player while the top teams may only gain 10-20pts
Totally agree. As far as equalisation the comp goes, 16 teams is better.

Although, this still doesn't help teams like Beijing who are still evidently struggling.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 30, 2014, 10:50:51 AM

I'm going to keep pushing for 18 teams (if anything I'd like to eventually move to 20 :P )

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on September 30, 2014, 10:56:46 AM
I personally feel the Dublin vs Dildos competition that was suggested a few days ago is the best way forward.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on September 30, 2014, 10:58:01 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 30, 2014, 10:50:51 AM

I'm going to keep pushing for 18 teams (if anything I'd like to eventually move to 20 :P )
I've got a unique idea, you might not agree with it Oz but I think it would be very popular with all the coaches of the competition. Don't think it's been rasied yet, 20 teams in a two-tier comp.

:P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on September 30, 2014, 11:01:45 AM
Quote from: roo boys! on September 30, 2014, 10:58:01 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 30, 2014, 10:50:51 AM

I'm going to keep pushing for 18 teams (if anything I'd like to eventually move to 20 :P )
I've got a unique idea, you might not agree with it Oz but I think it would be very popular with all the coaches of the competition. Don't think it's been rasied yet, 20 teams in a two-tier comp.

:P
Totally.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on September 30, 2014, 11:06:41 AM
16 teams would solve the equalisation issue.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on September 30, 2014, 11:36:35 AM
36 teams

Each team fielding 7 players

2 mids, 2 forwards, 2 defenders and 1 ruck.

dere u go, problem solved.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 30, 2014, 11:38:30 AM
ban nails from having ideas
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 30, 2014, 12:26:24 PM
Like the idea of just letting the new coaches pick from both teams - Coin toss no doubt will decide who gets Ablett but rest should be straight forward,

If we are to go to 20 teams there is insufficient players in the AFL to allow full 45 players roster, So to work teams would need to reduce playing lists to say 36 and 4 rookies. Would the allow you 2 Tier competition with promotion and relegation. Think with 24 Rounds in the AFL would allow 18 weeks for a full home and away 2 rounds followed by finals series. Problem as I see atm though would need 4 new coaches but worth considering.

Speaking from British where we just reduced to 16 teams and very early stages atm sorting out draw and finals to fit in with 24 rounds is not going to be easy but that is for British to sort out. Just saying here for those that think comp should be reduced to 16 teams.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on September 30, 2014, 12:32:42 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 30, 2014, 12:26:24 PM
Speaking from British where we just reduced to 16 teams and very early stages atm sorting out draw and finals to fit in with 24 rounds is not going to be easy but that is for British to sort out. Just saying here for those that think comp should be reduced to 16 teams.
Why's it an issue? Some teams just play each other twice. Happens in real life and works in Asians also.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 30, 2014, 12:42:53 PM

I absolutely hate how in the AFL some teams play each other twice and others don't. It is crazy, and they need to address it.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 30, 2014, 01:22:21 PM
Oss beat me to it Richo Not a fan  of some teams playing each other twice and some once.  Although AFL does it creates an uneven draw which I do not like.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on September 30, 2014, 01:56:25 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 30, 2014, 01:22:21 PM
Oss beat me to it Richo Not a fan  of some teams playing each other twice and some once.  Although AFL does it creates an uneven draw which I do not like.

I agree. Play each team once and you should be fine.

This works especially well in the XVs competition when we need some of the regular season rounds to complete our season (finals).

I'm not against 20 teams either but it would be tricky to manage - I think having 18 is fine though.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 30, 2014, 02:54:48 PM
http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,99138.0.html

Bit of advertising for coach in British xv's
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on September 30, 2014, 02:55:53 PM
The AFL Home & Away season isn't a Draw, it's a Fixture. It's ruined the evenness of the game in some ways.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on September 30, 2014, 03:03:58 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 30, 2014, 02:55:53 PM
The AFL Home & Away season isn't a Draw, it's a Fixture. It's ruined the evenness of the game in some ways.
Gee, that's a big call.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on September 30, 2014, 03:06:23 PM
Quote from: Master Q on September 30, 2014, 03:03:58 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 30, 2014, 02:55:53 PM
The AFL Home & Away season isn't a Draw, it's a Fixture. It's ruined the evenness of the game in some ways.
Gee, that's a big call.
Guessing Sarcasm.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on September 30, 2014, 03:24:11 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 30, 2014, 07:58:50 AM
How about the Rio de Janeiro Jaguars and Christchurch Saints pick squads from all the Sao Paulo and Wellington players?

And we just keep the rest as normal

If I got one of the new teams I would be all for this idea.

But how do draft picks get allocated? Rio couldn't just pick up Sao Paulo's draft picks since (in theory) Rio and Christchurch would contain equal amounts of quality.

Maybe the current draft picks could be included in the draft. For example whoever gets Rio might use their 10th pick in the player draft to pick up Sao Paulo's #20 draft pick instead of selecting a player.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 30, 2014, 03:27:39 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 30, 2014, 03:24:11 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 30, 2014, 07:58:50 AM
How about the Rio de Janeiro Jaguars and Christchurch Saints pick squads from all the Sao Paulo and Wellington players?

And we just keep the rest as normal

If I got one of the new teams I would be all for this idea.

But how do draft picks get allocated? Rio couldn't just pick up Sao Paulo's draft picks since (in theory) Rio and Christchurch would contain equal amounts of quality.

My thoughts are you'd chuck in Sao Paulo and Wellington's pick in the draw also...


So for pick 18 in the Sao Paulo/Wellington draft, you could select Wellington's Pick 7 instead of Matthew Buntine or something.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on September 30, 2014, 03:29:22 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 30, 2014, 03:27:39 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 30, 2014, 03:24:11 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 30, 2014, 07:58:50 AM
How about the Rio de Janeiro Jaguars and Christchurch Saints pick squads from all the Sao Paulo and Wellington players?

And we just keep the rest as normal

If I got one of the new teams I would be all for this idea.

But how do draft picks get allocated? Rio couldn't just pick up Sao Paulo's draft picks since (in theory) Rio and Christchurch would contain equal amounts of quality.

My thoughts are you'd chuck in Sao Paulo and Wellington's pick in the draw also...


So for pick 18 in the Sao Paulo/Wellington draft, you could select Wellington's Pick 7 instead of Matthew Buntine or something.

I like it. Doesn't disrupt anything.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on September 30, 2014, 03:30:59 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 30, 2014, 03:27:39 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 30, 2014, 03:24:11 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 30, 2014, 07:58:50 AM
How about the Rio de Janeiro Jaguars and Christchurch Saints pick squads from all the Sao Paulo and Wellington players?

And we just keep the rest as normal

If I got one of the new teams I would be all for this idea.

But how do draft picks get allocated? Rio couldn't just pick up Sao Paulo's draft picks since (in theory) Rio and Christchurch would contain equal amounts of quality.

My thoughts are you'd chuck in Sao Paulo and Wellington's pick in the draw also...


So for pick 18 in the Sao Paulo/Wellington draft, you could select Wellington's Pick 7 instead of Matthew Buntine or something.

this is a really good idea, you should be able to make two good squads out of those two teams and wont cause major disruption to the league. Would be really interesting to watch the two coaches go pick for pick making a team.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 30, 2014, 03:34:52 PM
i want the ability to trade picks though so i can get a player/s i specificly want
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 30, 2014, 03:36:12 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1885 on September 30, 2014, 03:34:52 PM
i want the ability to trade picks though so i can get a player/s i specificly want

Yeah, the regular trade period will begin again once we've got this sorted.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 30, 2014, 03:38:49 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 30, 2014, 03:36:12 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1885 on September 30, 2014, 03:34:52 PM
i want the ability to trade picks though so i can get a player/s i specificly want

Yeah, the regular trade period will begin again once we've got this sorted.

i mean if 2 coaches are selected and they get 40 picks each for the 80 odd players i want to be able to trade those picks
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on September 30, 2014, 03:39:48 PM
I'm happy to coach both new teams and the dildos  :-X
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on September 30, 2014, 03:40:47 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1885 on September 30, 2014, 03:38:49 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 30, 2014, 03:36:12 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1885 on September 30, 2014, 03:34:52 PM
i want the ability to trade picks though so i can get a player/s i specificly want

Yeah, the regular trade period will begin again once we've got this sorted.

i mean if 2 coaches are selected and they get 40 picks each for the 80 odd players i want to be able to trade those picks

Interesting idea. So say Dublin wants ablett I put in a bid for pick 1
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on September 30, 2014, 03:42:17 PM
I hate that idea to be honest. Could get messy and confusing.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 30, 2014, 03:42:36 PM
yeah just have to be pretty strict on it making sure they get a best xv player if its an early pick etc
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on September 30, 2014, 03:42:59 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1885 on September 30, 2014, 03:38:49 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 30, 2014, 03:36:12 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1885 on September 30, 2014, 03:34:52 PM
i want the ability to trade picks though so i can get a player/s i specificly want

Yeah, the regular trade period will begin again once we've got this sorted.

i mean if 2 coaches are selected and they get 40 picks each for the 80 odd players i want to be able to trade those picks
Why wouldn't you just pick the players then trade them? Makes much more sense IMO, keep thing simple.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 30, 2014, 03:43:21 PM
Quote from: Nails on September 30, 2014, 03:42:17 PM
I hate that idea to be honest. Could get messy and confusing.

it's not rocket science
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 30, 2014, 03:43:35 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 30, 2014, 03:30:59 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 30, 2014, 03:27:39 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 30, 2014, 03:24:11 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 30, 2014, 07:58:50 AM
How about the Rio de Janeiro Jaguars and Christchurch Saints pick squads from all the Sao Paulo and Wellington players?

And we just keep the rest as normal

If I got one of the new teams I would be all for this idea.

But how do draft picks get allocated? Rio couldn't just pick up Sao Paulo's draft picks since (in theory) Rio and Christchurch would contain equal amounts of quality.

My thoughts are you'd chuck in Sao Paulo and Wellington's pick in the draw also...


So for pick 18 in the Sao Paulo/Wellington draft, you could select Wellington's Pick 7 instead of Matthew Buntine or something.

this is a really good idea, you should be able to make two good squads out of those two teams and wont cause major disruption to the league. Would be really interesting to watch the two coaches go pick for pick making a team.
Yeah, this isn't a bad idea at all actually.

As meow said, doesn't disrupt anything.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on September 30, 2014, 03:44:22 PM
Maybe just draft all the Sao Paolo and Wellington players first, and then the two new sides can trade just like a normal side would using their newly picked players/draft picks to target players they're after.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 30, 2014, 03:44:42 PM

I agree with Nails. And I hate it when that happens.

You can always trade Ablett later....
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 30, 2014, 03:44:43 PM
Quote from: Master Q on September 30, 2014, 03:42:59 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1885 on September 30, 2014, 03:38:49 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 30, 2014, 03:36:12 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1885 on September 30, 2014, 03:34:52 PM
i want the ability to trade picks though so i can get a player/s i specificly want

Yeah, the regular trade period will begin again once we've got this sorted.

i mean if 2 coaches are selected and they get 40 picks each for the 80 odd players i want to be able to trade those picks
Why wouldn't you just pick the players then trade them? Makes much more sense IMO, keep thing simple.

teams can pick whoever they want that way and they might get a steal
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 30, 2014, 03:45:09 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on September 30, 2014, 03:44:22 PM
Maybe just draft all the Sao Paolo and Wellington players first, and then the two new sides can trade just like a normal side would using their newly picked players/draft picks to target players they're after.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on September 30, 2014, 03:45:42 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1885 on September 30, 2014, 03:44:43 PM
Quote from: Master Q on September 30, 2014, 03:42:59 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1885 on September 30, 2014, 03:38:49 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 30, 2014, 03:36:12 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1885 on September 30, 2014, 03:34:52 PM
i want the ability to trade picks though so i can get a player/s i specificly want

Yeah, the regular trade period will begin again once we've got this sorted.

i mean if 2 coaches are selected and they get 40 picks each for the 80 odd players i want to be able to trade those picks
Why wouldn't you just pick the players then trade them? Makes much more sense IMO, keep thing simple.

teams can pick whoever they want that way and they might get a steal
And you'd end up waiting a week for each pick as those trades would need to be voted on.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 30, 2014, 03:46:58 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on September 30, 2014, 03:47:47 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 30, 2014, 03:45:09 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on September 30, 2014, 03:44:22 PM
Maybe just draft all the Sao Paolo and Wellington players first, and then the two new sides can trade just like a normal side would using their newly picked players/draft picks to target players they're after.
This sounds good.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on September 30, 2014, 03:49:25 PM
You seem to be the only one who likes that idea kb
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 30, 2014, 03:49:55 PM
Let's get these coaches and the draft underway.  8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 30, 2014, 03:52:33 PM
Quote from: Nails on September 30, 2014, 03:51:38 PM
Quote from: Master Q on September 30, 2014, 03:50:20 PM
Nails nooooo

edited

but it's bugging me that it hasn't been brought up yet.

EDIT

LOL I know :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on September 30, 2014, 03:53:04 PM
don't ruin it RD :o
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 30, 2014, 04:15:05 PM
Hey Meow, Tom $cully for Ablett? :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on September 30, 2014, 04:17:14 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 30, 2014, 04:15:05 PM
Hey Meow, Tom $cully for Ablett? :)
get in line mate ;)

Quote from: elephants on September 30, 2014, 02:37:23 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 29, 2014, 03:31:48 PM
I would like to apply for the job. Most of you already know what I bring to the competition.

I'd vote for meow then sell him Greene for all of Sao Paulo.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on September 30, 2014, 05:11:47 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1885 on September 30, 2014, 03:34:52 PM
i want the ability to trade picks though so i can get a player/s i specificly want
You realise you don't have a team yet, right? :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on September 30, 2014, 05:23:54 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 30, 2014, 08:44:00 AM
Guys if anyone else is thinking of resigning, now'd be the time to do it
Got to say it's tempting me just so there is an odd number of coaches departing :P.

But agree with those who want the two coaches to be decides, then alternate picks between them between both squads/picks. THEN can trade off like normal with trade season resuming. Simple and alot less messy than including other teams in the mix.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on September 30, 2014, 05:33:05 PM
All 18 coaches resign :o
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 30, 2014, 05:45:57 PM
Quote from: Nails on September 30, 2014, 05:33:05 PM
All 18 coaches resign :o
You resigning? Yeah right.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on September 30, 2014, 05:48:30 PM
Initial draft all over again, do it.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on September 30, 2014, 06:22:54 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on September 30, 2014, 05:23:54 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 30, 2014, 08:44:00 AM
Guys if anyone else is thinking of resigning, now'd be the time to do it
Got to say it's tempting me just so there is an odd number of coaches departing :P.

But agree with those who want the two coaches to be decides, then alternate picks between them between both squads/picks. THEN can trade off like normal with trade season resuming. Simple and alot less messy than including other teams in the mix.
your not even allowed to joke about that ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 30, 2014, 07:59:37 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 30, 2014, 05:11:47 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1885 on September 30, 2014, 03:34:52 PM
i want the ability to trade picks though so i can get a player/s i specificly want
You realise you don't have a team yet, right? :P

that's why i said 'when the 2 coaches are selected' in a post just prior to that ::)

i don't think i'll get one of the teams tbh unfortunately :'(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on October 01, 2014, 05:37:04 PM
Must admit it's kinda sad to see the Pumas being disbanded :( Would have been nice to see someone take over the team and see if they could continue with my goal of prolonged premiership success by having a very young list.

In a way next season will now become a 2 horse race between Mexico City and Dublin since the Pumas are now out.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on October 01, 2014, 05:38:59 PM
Quote from: Honey Badger on October 01, 2014, 05:37:04 PM
In a way next season will now become a 2 horse race between Mexico City and Dublin since the Pumas are now out.
Says who? #NDTforPremiers2015
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on October 01, 2014, 05:40:24 PM
Quote from: Honey Badger on October 01, 2014, 05:37:04 PM
Must admit it's kinda sad to see the Pumas being disbanded :( Would have been nice to see someone take over the team and see if they could continue with my goal of prolonged premiership success by having a very young list.

In a way next season will now become a 2 horse race between Mexico City and Dublin since the Pumas are now out.

kind of agree here. While two new teams will drag down a top team and pump up a weak team. The competition up the top just got easier.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on October 01, 2014, 05:42:15 PM
Quote from: Honey Badger on October 01, 2014, 05:37:04 PM
Must admit it's kinda sad to see the Pumas being disbanded :( Would have been nice to see someone take over the team and see if they could continue with my goal of prolonged premiership success by having a very young list.

In a way next season will now become a 2 horse race between Mexico City and Dublin since the Pumas are now out.

On the flip side, kind of opens up a new spot in the 4. And with the Armadillos have a dramatic squad change could have some new exciting fixtures and rivalries. All it takes for one slip and in the first 3 weeks and it won't be a Suns/Destroyers final.

Will call an early Destroyer, Suns, Sands and Revolution top 4 :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on October 01, 2014, 05:47:06 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on October 01, 2014, 05:42:15 PM
Quote from: Honey Badger on October 01, 2014, 05:37:04 PM
Must admit it's kinda sad to see the Pumas being disbanded :( Would have been nice to see someone take over the team and see if they could continue with my goal of prolonged premiership success by having a very young list.

In a way next season will now become a 2 horse race between Mexico City and Dublin since the Pumas are now out.

On the flip side, kind of opens up a new spot in the 4. And with the Armadillos have a dramatic squad change could have some new exciting fixtures and rivalries. All it takes for one slip and in the first 3 weeks and it won't be a Suns/Destroyers final.

Will call an early Destroyer, Suns, Sands and Revolution top 4 :P

(http://www2.psd100.com/ppp/2013/11/2801/Red-Nosed-Reindeer-1128043332.png)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 01, 2014, 06:14:11 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on October 01, 2014, 05:42:15 PM
Sands top 4
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on October 01, 2014, 06:16:11 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 01, 2014, 05:47:06 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on October 01, 2014, 05:42:15 PM
Quote from: Honey Badger on October 01, 2014, 05:37:04 PM
Must admit it's kinda sad to see the Pumas being disbanded :( Would have been nice to see someone take over the team and see if they could continue with my goal of prolonged premiership success by having a very young list.

In a way next season will now become a 2 horse race between Mexico City and Dublin since the Pumas are now out.

On the flip side, kind of opens up a new spot in the 4. And with the Armadillos have a dramatic squad change could have some new exciting fixtures and rivalries. All it takes for one slip and in the first 3 weeks and it won't be a Suns/Destroyers final.

Will call an early Destroyer, Suns, Sands and Revolution top 4 :P

(http://www2.psd100.com/ppp/2013/11/2801/Red-Nosed-Reindeer-1128043332.png)

love it Holz looking out for PNL there ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 01, 2014, 06:56:37 PM

Quote from: ossie85 on October 01, 2014, 05:42:15 PM
Sands top 1
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 01, 2014, 06:57:35 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 01, 2014, 06:56:37 PM

Quote from: ossie85 on October 01, 2014, 05:42:15 PM
Sands top 1

Loses credibility in BXV election  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on October 01, 2014, 07:03:19 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 01, 2014, 06:57:35 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 01, 2014, 06:56:37 PM

Quote from: ossie85 on October 01, 2014, 05:42:15 PM
Sands top 1

Looses credibility in BXV election  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 01, 2014, 07:09:34 PM
If he had competition lol
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on October 02, 2014, 09:20:01 AM
We have lots of candidates for teams 17 and 18, but feel free to apply in the application thread pb
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on October 04, 2014, 11:37:56 PM
I'm having withdrawals already haha!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 07, 2014, 07:02:07 PM
Had a look and I'm pretty convinced I'm blind but I can't find the initial Words draft thread, can anyone find it?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on October 07, 2014, 07:06:13 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 07, 2014, 07:02:07 PM
Had a look and I'm pretty convinced I'm blind but I can't find the initial Words draft thread, can anyone find it?
http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,44497.0.html (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,44497.0.html)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 07, 2014, 08:15:19 PM
Quote from: Honey Badger on October 07, 2014, 07:06:13 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 07, 2014, 07:02:07 PM
Had a look and I'm pretty convinced I'm blind but I can't find the initial Words draft thread, can anyone find it?
http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,44497.0.html (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,44497.0.html)
Muchas gracias.  :-*
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on October 07, 2014, 08:50:32 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 07, 2014, 08:15:19 PM
Quote from: Honey Badger on October 07, 2014, 07:06:13 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 07, 2014, 07:02:07 PM
Had a look and I'm pretty convinced I'm blind but I can't find the initial Words draft thread, can anyone find it?
http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,44497.0.html (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,44497.0.html)
Muchas gracias.  :-*
Hurley Pick 10. Lawd.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on October 07, 2014, 11:26:33 PM
Quote from: Master Q on October 07, 2014, 08:50:32 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 07, 2014, 08:15:19 PM
Quote from: Honey Badger on October 07, 2014, 07:06:13 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 07, 2014, 07:02:07 PM
Had a look and I'm pretty convinced I'm blind but I can't find the initial Words draft thread, can anyone find it?
http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,44497.0.html (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,44497.0.html)
Muchas gracias.  :-*
Hurley Pick 10. Lawd.
If I had've stopped trading after that first trade period (+ international draft)

D: Grimes, Guthrie, Dunn, Haynes
M: Selwood, Watson, JPK, Cotchin
R: Smith
F: Sylvia, Watts, Hawkins, Bird
U: Curnow, Cooney

With:
Rohan, J Cameron, Gwilt, Pittard, Johnson, O'Shea, Haynes, Wood, L Thomas, A Johnson, Gawn

Lordy. Pretty dodgy forward line and another defender wouldn't hurt but it's a pretty damn good list. Trading Selwood is easily the worst decision any world XV coach has ever made hyperbole alert
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on October 07, 2014, 11:36:44 PM
Trading in selwood was a decent move though.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on October 07, 2014, 11:51:23 PM
Dat midfield :o
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on October 08, 2014, 12:09:23 AM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 07, 2014, 11:51:23 PM
Dat midfield :o
:'( :'( :'(

Mistakes were definitely made.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 08, 2014, 03:17:36 PM
Note for Oss

Can you move the Royals team thread from Archives to Team Threads

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,66177.0.html

Do not think you want to remove us yet.!!!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on October 08, 2014, 03:52:01 PM
like MC looking what my team would be if i stopped trading after the first trade period + national drafts.

D: N.Malceski, S.D.Thompson, L.Hansen, S.Atley
M: C.Ward. D.Mundy, M.Barlow, J.Omeara
R: S.Mumford
F: D.Thomas, Z.Clarke, J.Hogan, A.Black
U: J.Caddy, L.Dunstan


actually a pretty good team, not as strong as the current dublin but could push for top 4 in a few years.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 08, 2014, 03:53:31 PM
Dunstan? How?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on October 08, 2014, 04:00:04 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 08, 2014, 03:53:31 PM
Dunstan? How?

I traded my 10 draft pick in the season in the deal to get birchall. If i had to use it i was going to pick up an AFL ready player from Stkilda as they were rebuilding.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 08, 2014, 04:07:54 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 08, 2014, 04:00:04 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 08, 2014, 03:53:31 PM
Dunstan? How?

I traded my 10 draft pick in the season in the deal to get birchall. If i had to use it i was going to pick up an AFL ready player from Stkilda as they were rebuilding.
Aren't these teams supposed to be after the first trade period following the initial draft though? Dunstan was draft just last year...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on October 08, 2014, 04:10:26 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 08, 2014, 04:07:54 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 08, 2014, 04:00:04 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 08, 2014, 03:53:31 PM
Dunstan? How?

I traded my 10 draft pick in the season in the deal to get birchall. If i had to use it i was going to pick up an AFL ready player from Stkilda as they were rebuilding.
Aren't these teams supposed to be after the first trade period following the initial draft though? Dunstan was draft just last year...

well i added in my national draft picks.

2012: 5 Jaeger Omeara
2013: 10 Jesse Hogan
2014: 10 Luke Dunstan (who it would have been)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 08, 2014, 04:13:29 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 08, 2014, 04:10:26 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 08, 2014, 04:07:54 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 08, 2014, 04:00:04 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 08, 2014, 03:53:31 PM
Dunstan? How?

I traded my 10 draft pick in the season in the deal to get birchall. If i had to use it i was going to pick up an AFL ready player from Stkilda as they were rebuilding.
Aren't these teams supposed to be after the first trade period following the initial draft though? Dunstan was draft just last year...

well i added in my national draft picks.

2012: 5 Jaeger Omeara
2013: 10 Jesse Hogan
2014: 10 Luke Dunstan (who it would have been)
Oh, I see.

I was confused because the way I read Chumps' post was that he was simply creating the team from the trade period following the draft and not including subsequent seasons and picks, so the team as of whenever the first trade period finished.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on October 08, 2014, 04:21:17 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 08, 2014, 03:17:36 PM
Note for Oss

Can you move the Royals team thread from Archives to Team Threads

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,66177.0.html

Do not think you want to remove us yet.!!!

Someone beat me to it
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on October 08, 2014, 04:35:58 PM
>:D.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on October 10, 2014, 04:58:32 PM
Think it's fine. Speak for yourself when saying you can't assess a trade  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on October 10, 2014, 05:05:03 PM
Quote from: Master Q on October 10, 2014, 04:58:32 PM
Think it's fine. Speak for yourself when saying you can't assess a trade  :P

I'm not the one of the coaches that let Dom Tyson get traded for Blayne Wilson and pick 37
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on October 10, 2014, 05:12:49 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 10, 2014, 05:05:03 PM
Quote from: Master Q on October 10, 2014, 04:58:32 PM
Think it's fine. Speak for yourself when saying you can't assess a trade  :P

I'm not the one of the coaches that let Dom Tyson get traded for Blayne Wilson and pick 37

in fairness Tyson hadn't done a thing at that stage
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jukes on October 10, 2014, 05:13:26 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 10, 2014, 05:05:03 PM
Quote from: Master Q on October 10, 2014, 04:58:32 PM
Think it's fine. Speak for yourself when saying you can't assess a trade  :P

I'm not the one of the coaches that let Dom Tyson get traded for Blayne Wilson and pick 37

check your privilege
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on October 10, 2014, 05:52:01 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 10, 2014, 05:05:03 PM
Quote from: Master Q on October 10, 2014, 04:58:32 PM
Think it's fine. Speak for yourself when saying you can't assess a trade  :P

I'm not the one of the coaches that let Dom Tyson get traded for Blayne Wilson and pick 37
What was wrong with that deal?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 15, 2014, 09:38:42 PM
Formal request for WXVs to never ever have another trade period.

This is getting ridiculous.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2014, 10:20:41 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 15, 2014, 09:38:42 PM
Formal request for WXVs to never ever have another trade period.

This is getting ridiculous.

You need a hug Nige? :P

Remember you being keen for XV preseason lol
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on October 15, 2014, 10:22:34 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 15, 2014, 09:38:42 PM
Formal request for WXVs to never ever have another trade period.

This is getting ridiculous.

people showing passion getting really interesting.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 15, 2014, 10:27:44 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2014, 10:20:41 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 15, 2014, 09:38:42 PM
Formal request for WXVs to never ever have another trade period.

This is getting ridiculous.

You need a hug Nige? :P

Remember you being keen for XV preseason lol
I'm just over the drama.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on October 15, 2014, 10:29:12 PM
This is what xvs is about. Better than noone ever saying anything like in other comps atm
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on October 15, 2014, 10:31:07 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2014, 10:29:12 PM
This is what xvs is about. Better than noone ever saying anything like in other comps atm
I couldn't agree more. Its flowering boring if no one says anything. I live for the drama. :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2014, 10:31:16 PM
Come on everybody group hug
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on October 15, 2014, 10:32:46 PM
A bit of robust discussion never hurt anyone. When people start having a hissy fit that's when there will be problems. I've seen no hissy fits yet.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on October 15, 2014, 10:34:45 PM
Quote from: Vinny on October 15, 2014, 10:31:07 PM
I live for the drama. :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2014, 10:36:36 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 15, 2014, 10:34:45 PM
Quote from: Vinny on October 15, 2014, 10:31:07 PM
I live for the drama. :P

Drama queen?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on October 15, 2014, 10:37:59 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2014, 10:36:36 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 15, 2014, 10:34:45 PM
Quote from: Vinny on October 15, 2014, 10:31:07 PM
I live for the drama. :P

Drama queen?
Do you even know what a Drama Queen is? :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2014, 10:39:37 PM
Quote from: Vinny on October 15, 2014, 10:37:59 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2014, 10:36:36 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 15, 2014, 10:34:45 PM
Quote from: Vinny on October 15, 2014, 10:31:07 PM
I live for the drama. :P

Drama queen?
Do you even know what a Drama Queen is? :P

Hahahaha
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on October 15, 2014, 10:41:41 PM
I swear kb is getting more bizarre haha
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on October 15, 2014, 10:41:47 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2014, 10:39:37 PM
Quote from: Vinny on October 15, 2014, 10:37:59 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2014, 10:36:36 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 15, 2014, 10:34:45 PM
Quote from: Vinny on October 15, 2014, 10:31:07 PM
I live for the drama. :P

Drama queen?
Do you even know what a Drama Queen is? :P

Hahahaha
Definitely high ^
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2014, 10:42:50 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 15, 2014, 10:41:41 PM
I swear kb is getting more bizarre haha

Still only 7 votes
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on October 15, 2014, 10:59:58 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2014, 10:29:12 PM
This is what xvs is about. Better than noone ever saying anything like in other comps atm
Literally say this every time someone complains and I seem to never be heard  :P

Nobody is actually taking anything personally. No harm in having a discussion about fantasy football which is kinda rare on this site these days  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: AaronKirk on October 15, 2014, 11:51:45 PM
No one is having a go at anyone, we are just debating the worth of trades, its fun and healthy for the competition. Definitely not boring either  ;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on October 15, 2014, 11:54:20 PM
It's funny how people rate picks, one of the most contentious parts about negging IMO. I guess it will clear up in a few seasons time when we can see how past draft talent has eventuated.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on October 16, 2014, 12:06:30 AM
I am just judging everybody quietly while I try to get work done (but failing) :P.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 16, 2014, 12:08:56 AM
Quote from: Hellopplz on October 16, 2014, 12:06:30 AM
I am just judging everybody quietly while I try to get work done (but failing) :P.

I'm eating reindeer for dinner :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 16, 2014, 12:13:32 AM
looking at the recent posts and I see kb say he's eating reindeer for dinner. thought it was coaches thread.

coming to ask how it was. disappointed :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on October 17, 2014, 10:58:06 AM

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,99304.0.html
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on October 17, 2014, 11:39:26 AM

So...

I quite liked the way Rio de Janeiro and Christchurch have turned out. Think it freshen things up a bit.


Wondering if we want to make this a regular thing every year?

For example:
- A coach resigns from a team after Round 8 next year. A new coach is selected and he is the 'caretaker' of that team for the rest of the year.
- Another coach resigns after Round 12. Another Caretaker is appointed.
- Another coach resigns at the end of the season. No caretaker is needed.

So after the season ends, those 3 teams will be combined into a draft. The 2 caretaker coaches and another newly selected coach would then get the chance to draft from the squads of those 3 teams.

It may give the new coaches a sense of ownership of the team if they got to select the players.


Did that make sense?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on October 17, 2014, 11:41:08 AM
Yeah I don't mind it
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 17, 2014, 11:41:58 AM
I'm not opposed to it.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on October 17, 2014, 11:46:01 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on October 17, 2014, 11:39:26 AM

So...

I quite liked the way Rio de Janeiro and Christchurch have turned out. Think it freshen things up a bit.


Wondering if we want to make this a regular thing every year?

For example:
- A coach resigns from a team after Round 8 next year. A new coach is selected and he is the 'caretaker' of that team for the rest of the year.
- Another coach resigns after Round 12. Another Caretaker is appointed.
- Another coach resigns at the end of the season. No caretaker is needed.

So after the season ends, those 3 teams will be combined into a draft. The 2 caretaker coaches and another newly selected coach would then get the chance to draft from the squads of those 3 teams.

It may give the new coaches a sense of ownership of the team if they got to select the players.


Did that make sense?
Only issue that may pop up, is one year you might get coach 1 who will go really young with his selections, and coach 2 who will get a lot of older players and be overly strong. Might not happen but it may. It didn't this time with the youngsters in the draft being quite strong already. Just the first thing I thought of
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 17, 2014, 11:50:02 AM
It is a good point Ric raises, especially if for example Dublin or Mexico were to be one of the teams and NDT or Beijing the other.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 17, 2014, 11:52:20 AM
I do not mind the idea at all - Seemed to work OK this year as well.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 17, 2014, 11:52:49 AM
Nice idea, but I think we should just cross that bridge when we get there, and play it by ear

It's an option, but other things need to be factored in, and can only be done so once we know what the situation is
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on October 17, 2014, 11:53:05 AM
Would it be a good idea if it was two weak teams though? Or should it only happen if a strong team was involved?

One of the reasons I liked the recent folding was that it turned one competitive team (although a pretty darn good one) into 2.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 17, 2014, 12:26:08 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 17, 2014, 11:53:05 AM
Would it be a good idea if it was two weak teams though? Or should it only happen if a strong team was involved?

One of the reasons I liked the recent folding was that it turned one competitive team (although a pretty darn good one) into 2.
Yeah, I feel like if it was two weaker teams it might not necessarily work as effectively as it did this time.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on October 17, 2014, 12:42:34 PM
The idea worked well this season except for one thing - now there seems an even bigger gap between the top team in the competition (Dublin) and the second best team (Mexico City) and the rest.

Sao Paolo was easily the third best team in my opinion and now they have been brought back to the pack. Which means a lot of teams will be looking at their 2016/2017 prospects now rather than focusing on next year.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 17, 2014, 12:50:18 PM
I do agree with Memph that it appears to be a two-horse race now and there's potentially an argument for it being a one-horse race.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 17, 2014, 12:51:59 PM
Just do a complete re draft :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on October 17, 2014, 12:53:26 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 17, 2014, 12:51:59 PM
Just do a complete re draft :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on October 17, 2014, 12:55:13 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 17, 2014, 12:53:26 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 17, 2014, 12:51:59 PM
Just do a complete re draft :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on October 17, 2014, 01:04:29 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 17, 2014, 12:50:18 PM
I do agree with Memph that it appears to be a two-horse race now and there's potentially an argument for it being a one-horse race.

Dublin and Mexico City are the clear favourites BUT stranger things have happened. I think with Buenos Aires doing a dramatic reshaping, we'll have 2 new teams in the top 4 next year.

In the finals, all it takes is a superb performance or some dud ones to really shake things up.

Shown that all 3 Minor Premiers have not won the flag, in fact 2 of them didn't even make the Grand Final.

We've also had 3 different premiers in 3 different years, so not too bad if either Dublin or Mexico City become the first team to win 2.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on October 17, 2014, 01:15:35 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on October 17, 2014, 01:04:29 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 17, 2014, 12:50:18 PM
I do agree with Memph that it appears to be a two-horse race now and there's potentially an argument for it being a one-horse race.

Dublin and Mexico City are the clear favourites BUT stranger things have happened. I think with Buenos Aires doing a dramatic reshaping, we'll have 2 new teams in the top 4 next year.

In the finals, all it takes is a superb performance or some dud ones to really shake things up.

Shown that all 3 Minor Premiers have not won the flag, in fact 2 of them didn't even make the Grand Final.

We've also had 3 different premiers in 3 different years, so not too bad if either Dublin or Mexico City become the first team to win 2.

I'm not saying it's a bad thing but it's kind of awkward in the trade period when you have 10-12 clubs all with the same plan (aiming to peak just after Mexico and Dublin do).

It means no-one wants the guys like Swan and Chapman from Buenos Aires except for Dublin and Mexico and then they get blocked from getting them anyway lol.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on October 17, 2014, 03:46:37 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on October 17, 2014, 01:15:35 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on October 17, 2014, 01:04:29 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 17, 2014, 12:50:18 PM
I do agree with Memph that it appears to be a two-horse race now and there's potentially an argument for it being a one-horse race.

Dublin and Mexico City are the clear favourites BUT stranger things have happened. I think with Buenos Aires doing a dramatic reshaping, we'll have 2 new teams in the top 4 next year.

In the finals, all it takes is a superb performance or some dud ones to really shake things up.

Shown that all 3 Minor Premiers have not won the flag, in fact 2 of them didn't even make the Grand Final.

We've also had 3 different premiers in 3 different years, so not too bad if either Dublin or Mexico City become the first team to win 2.

I'm not saying it's a bad thing but it's kind of awkward in the trade period when you have 10-12 clubs all with the same plan (aiming to peak just after Mexico and Dublin do).

It means no-one wants the guys like Swan and Chapman from Buenos Aires except for Dublin and Mexico and then they get blocked from getting them anyway lol.

this is the big issue, nobody wants to compete and thats a big problem. I offered up guys like Mundy and Watson who have plenty of years left and only the contenders wanted them. People need to realise this is fantasy anything can happen.

The best case to look at is the Euro. Serbia has been an absolute powerhouse there for the last two years. IN the home and away season they won 26 out of 28 games and been far more dominant than any world team has ever been. Yet they didnt win the flag either year. Iceland instead came from 5th this year to take it out even though on paper it looked like they were no chance against Serbia they tried to compete with the big clubs and took it out.

Not sure why but there seems to not be a want to compete in the Worlds at all, with people not looking at guns with years left because they plan to be dominant in 3-4 years. What I have learnt from coaching Serbia is the season is nothing is ever a certainty and Dublin is no certainty to win this year and in fact may not even make the grand final.

People cant complain that Dublin is too dominant when really every is planning to be dominant in 3-4 years. If Dublin is to win its going to be more from Clubs choosing not to compete, opposed to Dublin pulling away. This is why coaches like HP Daz as an example will win flags as every year they go out to compete. Sure they could rebuild and become more dominant later but they try and put a strong team out every year while also making sure they can stay  up there for as long as possible. Thats what people should strive for, not going young than making a powerhouse in 3-4 years.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 17, 2014, 04:05:48 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 17, 2014, 03:46:37 PM
This is why coaches like HP Daz as an example will win flags as every year they go out to compete. Sure they could rebuild and become more dominant later but they try and put a strong team out every year while also making sure they can stay  up there for as long as possible. Thats what people should strive for, not going young than making a powerhouse in 3-4 years.
This is what we at Cairo are doing too. Got a few older players and don't mind that. Happy to have a fairly even team across the board year after year to be able to compete and be in with a sneaky chance (see: 2013 and on occasion in 2014). We're a bit like North, need to bridge the gap between our best and worst.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on October 17, 2014, 04:07:18 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 17, 2014, 04:05:48 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 17, 2014, 03:46:37 PM
This is why coaches like HP Daz as an example will win flags as every year they go out to compete. Sure they could rebuild and become more dominant later but they try and put a strong team out every year while also making sure they can stay  up there for as long as possible. Thats what people should strive for, not going young than making a powerhouse in 3-4 years.
This is what we at Cairo are doing too. Got a few older players and don't mind that. Happy to have a fairly even team across the board year after year to be able to compete and be in with a sneaky chance (see: 2013 and on occasion in 2014). We're a bit like North, need to bridge the gap between our best and worst.  :P

yeah was just using PNL as an example there are a few teams going out there to compete which is great.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on October 17, 2014, 04:16:26 PM
Double mention in there >:D.

Worlds do have quite a few teams that can compete for top 8 spots and the bottom guys are slowly bridging the gap. Just need Dublin/Mexico to have an off week and they are eliminated from the finals! Happened in Euros to Serbia twice in two seasons, even though they were clearly above the pack point wise (clear 100 off from the pack which involved like 5-6 teams).

Even comps are there and fair enough having the top teams clear of the rest as they can falter (e.g. Sydney and Hawks), I've always been for having a mix of ages so can constantly compete rather than bide my time until I can have a legit premiership tilt. To be honest, PNL/Iceland were made to be just finals teams, not exactly Premiership quality unless we get a bunch of guys to step up to the next level like Iceland did.

Think quite a few teams are still trying to compete but are into covering their bases incase injuries do strike (which is why PNL had a bunch of depth almost every season :P ).
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on October 17, 2014, 04:26:47 PM
Why can't Worlds be the same in the other comps? No one wants to do trades like these in other comps. Not sure why :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 18, 2014, 12:58:43 AM
You cant say we are not trying to compete

NY has thrown the kitchen sink at 2015 and beyond :P

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on October 18, 2014, 10:34:44 AM
I have the master plan of getting into the finals, and fluking my way to the premiership  :P

That plan got me to the prelims in 2013  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on October 18, 2014, 10:46:33 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on October 17, 2014, 11:39:26 AM

So...

I quite liked the way Rio de Janeiro and Christchurch have turned out. Think it freshen things up a bit.


Wondering if we want to make this a regular thing every year?

For example:
- A coach resigns from a team after Round 8 next year. A new coach is selected and he is the 'caretaker' of that team for the rest of the year.
- Another coach resigns after Round 12. Another Caretaker is appointed.
- Another coach resigns at the end of the season. No caretaker is needed.

So after the season ends, those 3 teams will be combined into a draft. The 2 caretaker coaches and another newly selected coach would then get the chance to draft from the squads of those 3 teams.

It may give the new coaches a sense of ownership of the team if they got to select the players.


Did that make sense?

so what happens if only 1 coach resigns for the year?

or are they "forced" resignations?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 18, 2014, 10:47:24 AM
Quote from: The BeDazzler on October 18, 2014, 10:46:33 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on October 17, 2014, 11:39:26 AM

So...

I quite liked the way Rio de Janeiro and Christchurch have turned out. Think it freshen things up a bit.


Wondering if we want to make this a regular thing every year?

For example:
- A coach resigns from a team after Round 8 next year. A new coach is selected and he is the 'caretaker' of that team for the rest of the year.
- Another coach resigns after Round 12. Another Caretaker is appointed.
- Another coach resigns at the end of the season. No caretaker is needed.

So after the season ends, those 3 teams will be combined into a draft. The 2 caretaker coaches and another newly selected coach would then get the chance to draft from the squads of those 3 teams.

It may give the new coaches a sense of ownership of the team if they got to select the players.


Did that make sense?

so what happens if only 1 coach resigns for the year?

or are they "forced" resignations?
Then it obviously won't happen.

I'm fairly this is just an idea/plan for if two teams lose coaches.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on October 18, 2014, 11:00:13 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 18, 2014, 10:47:24 AM
Quote from: The BeDazzler on October 18, 2014, 10:46:33 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on October 17, 2014, 11:39:26 AM

So...

I quite liked the way Rio de Janeiro and Christchurch have turned out. Think it freshen things up a bit.


Wondering if we want to make this a regular thing every year?

For example:
- A coach resigns from a team after Round 8 next year. A new coach is selected and he is the 'caretaker' of that team for the rest of the year.
- Another coach resigns after Round 12. Another Caretaker is appointed.
- Another coach resigns at the end of the season. No caretaker is needed.

So after the season ends, those 3 teams will be combined into a draft. The 2 caretaker coaches and another newly selected coach would then get the chance to draft from the squads of those 3 teams.

It may give the new coaches a sense of ownership of the team if they got to select the players.


Did that make sense?

so what happens if only 1 coach resigns for the year?

or are they "forced" resignations?
Then it obviously won't happen.

I'm fairly this is just an idea/plan for if two teams lose coaches.
figured just wanted to make sure before commenting properly ;)

but yeah if that so then i'm all for it

(though with the coaches we got now i don't see alot of resignations now imo)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on October 18, 2014, 11:51:46 AM
Quote from: The BeDazzler on October 18, 2014, 11:00:13 AM
(though with the coaches we got now i don't see alot of resignations now imo)
Don't think many saw me resigning, so anything can happen ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on October 18, 2014, 01:52:29 PM
Quote from: Honey Badger on October 18, 2014, 11:51:46 AM
Quote from: The BeDazzler on October 18, 2014, 11:00:13 AM
(though with the coaches we got now i don't see alot of resignations now imo)
Don't think many saw me resigning, so anything can happen ;)
oh ofc HB wasn't implying anything of the sort at all mate
but that is a very good point i never saw that coming either
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on October 21, 2014, 02:08:04 PM

And with 13 of the 18 coaches having voted, I'm glad to announce that MEMPHIS is now an official co-coach of Cape Town.

He has 11 'yay' votes, and 2 coaches who forgot to vote one way or the other. I'd call that unanimous
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on October 21, 2014, 02:14:05 PM
Congrats Memph, well done mate
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on October 21, 2014, 02:16:08 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on October 21, 2014, 02:08:04 PM

And with 13 of the 18 coaches having voted, I'm glad to announce that MEMPHIS is now an official co-coach of Cape Town.

He has 11 'yay' votes, and 2 coaches who forgot to vote one way or the other. I'd call that unanimous

YAY!

Thanks guys - not much changes really but it's good to be recognised.

Now it's time to get the #CTC2015 trending  :D Or maybe #Cobras16 is more realistic :P or just #CobraStrike
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: AaronKirk on October 21, 2014, 08:55:12 PM
Well done Memph, I'd go with #CobraStrike
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: FS on October 22, 2014, 11:05:52 AM
I would like to become an assistant
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 31, 2014, 12:38:14 PM
Can not bother going back through the archives but do we have a date for delistments and what happens if we have more than 5 vacancies on our list after de-listing do we have additional draft rounds.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 31, 2014, 12:38:54 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 31, 2014, 12:38:14 PM
Can not bother going back through the archives but do we have a date for delistments and what happens if we have more than 5 vacancies on our list after de-listing do we have additional draft rounds.
Yep, there are additional rounds.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on October 31, 2014, 12:45:01 PM
Another trade for NDT takes us up to 15 for the off season... trying to catch New York :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on October 31, 2014, 12:49:18 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 31, 2014, 12:45:01 PM
Another trade for NDT takes us up to 15 for the off season... trying to catch New York :P
Not bad, 17 for us, with two more pending and one that was rejected.
How many do NY have  :o
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on October 31, 2014, 12:51:27 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 31, 2014, 12:49:18 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 31, 2014, 12:45:01 PM
Another trade for NDT takes us up to 15 for the off season... trying to catch New York :P
Not bad, 17 for us, with two more pending and one that was rejected.
How many do NY have  :o
like 19 or 20 i think
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on October 31, 2014, 01:01:43 PM

I've been slack with date announcements sorry guys, will put it on top of the list.

And yeah, additional rounds like previous seasons
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on October 31, 2014, 01:13:05 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 31, 2014, 12:51:27 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 31, 2014, 12:49:18 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 31, 2014, 12:45:01 PM
Another trade for NDT takes us up to 15 for the off season... trying to catch New York :P
Not bad, 17 for us, with two more pending and one that was rejected.
How many do NY have  :o
like 19 or 20 i think

Dublin has done the most trades if you count all my rejected ones, which is a lot.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on October 31, 2014, 01:25:34 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 31, 2014, 01:13:05 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 31, 2014, 12:51:27 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 31, 2014, 12:49:18 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 31, 2014, 12:45:01 PM
Another trade for NDT takes us up to 15 for the off season... trying to catch New York :P
Not bad, 17 for us, with two more pending and one that was rejected.
How many do NY have  :o
like 19 or 20 i think

Dublin has done the most trades if you count all my rejected ones, which is a lot.
You've only done like 15, I think.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on November 01, 2014, 09:40:06 PM
I like to come up with some left field ideas and I've got another one.

I reckon it might be interesting if we could nominate some of our players to be included in the available selections at the draft.

For example, I nominate Ryan Lester to be available in the draft pool.
Let's say a team picks him at #15.
I would then have the option of accepting the pick, then taking it if I choose to accept. The only downside is the draft would have to pause momentarily after every pick like this.

The team that selected him might not have wanted to trade him in during the trade period, but once the draft started all the good mids were taken and there wasn't anyone else available at pick 15. I think this would work pretty well with spud players too. If nobody else takes your players you are stuck with them.

Players could be withdrawn at any time. Let's say it gets to pick 20 and I decide that Lester was worth more than that, I could say he is no longer available to be selected and withdraw him from the draft pool.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on November 01, 2014, 09:46:57 PM
Well, seeing as my first draft pick is 84, I feel that this is relevant to me  :P


I actually kind of like it, there would be no harm done if no one, in this case, pick Lester either. meow would just keep him.

The stop-start of the draft would be annoying, but we are in no rush either.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on November 01, 2014, 09:47:34 PM
That's actually a pretty good idea, meow.

But it would really slow down the draft.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on November 01, 2014, 09:52:54 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 01, 2014, 09:46:57 PM
Well, seeing as my first draft pick is 84, I feel that this is relevant to me  :P

It could be relevant if you nominated some players to see what you could get for them.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on November 01, 2014, 10:02:09 PM
Another example is that I might not think it's worth trading Lester for 15 now, but if he gets picked at 15 during the draft and Petracca is still available, I might want to do the trade at that point.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 01, 2014, 10:34:52 PM
Too left field for me.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on November 01, 2014, 10:38:01 PM
I really like it as well, good idea Meow. The slowing down is a bit of a problem but we got plenty of time.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on November 01, 2014, 10:41:14 PM
Can't fully read the idea atm buuuuuut time really shouldn't be an issue imo :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on November 01, 2014, 10:58:56 PM
Yeah, I also like the idea.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on November 01, 2014, 11:02:56 PM
The second round of the draft shouldn't take too long.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 01, 2014, 11:11:53 PM
i like it

but

it's kinda like trading a pick for a player so do they need to be voted on?

like what if a team uses pick 5 on Lester or somebody not worth pick 5
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on November 01, 2014, 11:12:54 PM
Since it's a simple one for one, I don't think it can be too bad. It'll also come down to people's faith in their own ability to draft.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on November 01, 2014, 11:26:06 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 01, 2014, 11:11:53 PM
i like it

but

it's kinda like trading a pick for a player so do they need to be voted on?

like what if a team uses pick 5 on Lester or somebody not worth pick 5

If the team selecting him thinks he is worth pick 5, how is that any different from them selecting Oleg Markov if they think he is worth pick 5 even though they'd be the only person on the planet who thinks so? Should that be voted on too?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on November 02, 2014, 09:20:56 AM
on one hand i see the merit on the other i dislike it

the trading period is for trading players

your plan changed when no mids were left?
well maybe you should of thought ahead then and not screwed yourself over

it could make it way to complicated imo
what happens if you rated lester say top 15 but your at work or out etc and he gets taken at 23 before you got to take him out
too bad then? (which if this was implemented then yeah it should be)

but in saying that you shouldn't be ble to when you first nominate say his up till pick 25 then gone as that is a form of draft tampering if you think his worth that much then trade for a pick in that number zone

if every single team nominates say 2 players each

then after 1 or 32 get picked we then need to keep track of not only draftees but what of those players are available

but then holz takes but only 1 of his and we take back both
so need to then keep an eye on that as well

dunno i see what your trying to say but
it doesn't really mirror the afl much and like i said complicates things further
and really i can see in future ppl not trading certain players if they feel they are being offered unders just to take it to the draft

or on the other hand of it for example
if you had of put taylor adams up (yes i know traded but point is)
and NDT took him with #5 which is what was rejected
does that then make it
A: kinda pointless to have voted on that trade
B: kinda like a bit dodgy like draft tampering or i dunno not in the spirit of the comp

basically i can see this leading to opening a can of worms and undermining in some cases the trade period

(btw meow not directed solely at you in use of lester and adams was just you mentioned lester so easy to use and the adams trade was a straight forward pick for player one to get my point across to everyone ;) )
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on November 02, 2014, 02:20:45 PM
Do not want to be too negative here but are we trying to complicate Worlds even further with this idea.  It is as has been said going to be difficult to keep an eye on all through the trading period.

Think we can do without this additional complication.  It is bad enough trying to keep track of the cap.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on November 02, 2014, 02:50:27 PM
Haha feel free to say it's the dumbest thing you've ever heard, I won't take it personally. I just like to float ideas from time to time.

I don't think it is very complicated though. It's just the option of in-draft trading of a few selected players, but it's probably completely unnecessary with such a long trade period.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 02, 2014, 02:59:58 PM
Yeah, I guess you kind of said it yourself meow. I mean, we have such a long trade period anyway, I don't really get why it needs to continue or happen in-draft as well. Let drafting be for drafting imo. 
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on November 02, 2014, 03:48:57 PM
I don't mind it.

Would have to enforce a twenty-four hour time limit to reject/accept the pick and then it'd work fine. Better than trading a player for a pick and hoping a certain few draftees slip to your position. 
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 02, 2014, 06:42:22 PM
So meow's on track to have 10 of the picks in the first two rounds if counted right. Crazy stuff.

One of best draft pools in recent years and people are apparently quite content in missing out, quite intriguing.  :o
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on November 02, 2014, 06:45:51 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 02, 2014, 06:42:22 PM
So meow's on track to have 10 of the picks in the first two rounds if counted right. Crazy stuff.

One of best draft pools in recent years and people are apparently quite content in missing out, quite intriguing.  :o

Just the 9 picks inside the top 27 at this stage, I'm not a hog!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 02, 2014, 06:50:05 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 02, 2014, 06:45:51 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 02, 2014, 06:42:22 PM
So meow's on track to have 10 of the picks in the first two rounds if counted right. Crazy stuff.

One of best draft pools in recent years and people are apparently quite content in missing out, quite intriguing.  :o

Just the 9 picks inside the top 27 at this stage, I'm not a hog!
A casual 1/3 of the top 27. That's awesome, I must be the only envious one.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on November 02, 2014, 07:55:07 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 02, 2014, 06:50:05 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 02, 2014, 06:45:51 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 02, 2014, 06:42:22 PM
So meow's on track to have 10 of the picks in the first two rounds if counted right. Crazy stuff.

One of best draft pools in recent years and people are apparently quite content in missing out, quite intriguing.  :o

Just the 9 picks inside the top 27 at this stage, I'm not a hog!
A casual 1/3 of the top 27. That's awesome, I must be the only envious one.  :P

I would be jelly but 2 of the top 5 is pretty great ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 02, 2014, 07:57:19 PM
much better off trading picks for established players if you did it every year your list would be looking good
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on November 02, 2014, 09:11:26 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 02, 2014, 07:55:07 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 02, 2014, 06:50:05 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 02, 2014, 06:45:51 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 02, 2014, 06:42:22 PM
So meow's on track to have 10 of the picks in the first two rounds if counted right. Crazy stuff.

One of best draft pools in recent years and people are apparently quite content in missing out, quite intriguing.  :o

Just the 9 picks inside the top 27 at this stage, I'm not a hog!
A casual 1/3 of the top 27. That's awesome, I must be the only envious one.  :P

I would be jelly but 2 of the top 5 is pretty great ;)
I'm totally annoyed.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on November 02, 2014, 10:57:02 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 02, 2014, 07:57:19 PM
much better off trading picks for established players if you did it every year your list would be looking good

1) a lot of people don't wanna do that
2) given our position I'm more than happy to wait a while for my Nat picks to become superstars. Means we'll have 15 of the best in a few years time ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 02, 2014, 10:58:56 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 02, 2014, 10:57:02 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 02, 2014, 07:57:19 PM
much better off trading picks for established players if you did it every year your list would be looking good

1) a lot of people don't wanna do that
2) given our position I'm more than happy to wait a while for my Nat picks to become superstars. Means we'll have 15 of the best in a few years time ;)
+1
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on November 02, 2014, 11:14:45 PM
I'll be happy for you guys to let Lever slip through to the 20's then produce 2005-2007 Chad Cornes-like performances.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 03, 2014, 02:34:21 PM
With the trade period just about over and the drafts not far away, I'm very interested to see all the new best XVs and maybe some ladder predictions for 2015 after that.

Should keep the discussion and banter going while we wait for the drafts.  :D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on November 03, 2014, 02:35:41 PM

re: meow's idea

Is interesting, but think we've passed rule changes for a while. Next time we talk about rules, feel free to raise it again
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on November 03, 2014, 03:07:37 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on November 03, 2014, 02:35:41 PM

re: meow's idea

Is interesting, but think we've passed rule changes for a while. Next time we talk about rules, feel free to raise it again

Yeah we def couldn't do it now otherwise teams would have traded differently. Meow has a huge advantage at the moment with all his picks :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on November 03, 2014, 03:17:07 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 03, 2014, 03:07:37 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on November 03, 2014, 02:35:41 PM

re: meow's idea

Is interesting, but think we've passed rule changes for a while. Next time we talk about rules, feel free to raise it again

Yeah we def couldn't do it now otherwise teams would have traded differently. Meow has a huge advantage at the moment with all his picks :P

I didn't suggest it to gain some sort of advantage haha. I just thought it might be interesting, and could give people another chance to get a trade done. Look back through the old drafts and see how many people say "I wish i had another pick, there's a guy left who I would love to take".
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on November 03, 2014, 03:17:43 PM
I think it would be a cool idea! Maybe next year :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 03, 2014, 03:24:00 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 03, 2014, 03:17:07 PM
see how many people say "I wish i had another pick, there's a guy left who I would love to take".
Me, every time.

Hence why I'd like a pick in the 20s or 30s so I hopefully don't have to say that this time.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on November 03, 2014, 03:34:25 PM


http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,99396.0.html
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on November 04, 2014, 10:25:34 PM
Hey Os, would it be possible to do a trade under the proviso that it is automatically reversed if one or more of the players involved has his position changed if both coaches agree to that?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on November 05, 2014, 07:39:57 AM
Quote from: meow meow on November 04, 2014, 10:25:34 PM
Hey Os, would it be possible to do a trade under the proviso that it is automatically reversed if one or more of the players involved has his position changed if both coaches agree to that?

Nope. List lodgements under that proviso would be a head ache sorry
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on November 05, 2014, 07:45:12 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on November 05, 2014, 07:39:57 AM
Quote from: meow meow on November 04, 2014, 10:25:34 PM
Hey Os, would it be possible to do a trade under the proviso that it is automatically reversed if one or more of the players involved has his position changed if both coaches agree to that?

Nope. List lodgements under that proviso would be a head ache sorry
Could the two coaches involved just agree to complete the trade in reverse in the 2nd trade period after positional trades are announced?

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 05, 2014, 11:14:38 AM
Quote from: roo boys! on November 05, 2014, 07:45:12 AM
Could the two coaches involved just agree to complete the trade in reverse in the 2nd trade period after positional trades are announced?

Perhaps just wait until positional changes are announced and then make the trade?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on November 05, 2014, 11:29:58 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 05, 2014, 11:14:38 AM
Quote from: roo boys! on November 05, 2014, 07:45:12 AM
Could the two coaches involved just agree to complete the trade in reverse in the 2nd trade period after positional trades are announced?

Perhaps just wait until positional changes are announced and then make the trade?
That's what I was gonna say :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on November 05, 2014, 11:30:42 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 05, 2014, 11:14:38 AM
Quote from: roo boys! on November 05, 2014, 07:45:12 AM
Could the two coaches involved just agree to complete the trade in reverse in the 2nd trade period after positional trades are announced?

Perhaps just wait until positional changes are announced and then make the trade?
But if unexpectedly no positional changes are made then are you allowed to in the second period? I thought it was only for positional changes that HAD been made.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on November 05, 2014, 11:35:24 AM
Quote from: My Chumps on November 05, 2014, 11:30:42 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 05, 2014, 11:14:38 AM
Quote from: roo boys! on November 05, 2014, 07:45:12 AM
Could the two coaches involved just agree to complete the trade in reverse in the 2nd trade period after positional trades are announced?

Perhaps just wait until positional changes are announced and then make the trade?
But if unexpectedly no positional changes are made then are you allowed to in the second period? I thought it was only for positional changes that HAD been made.

The way I see it in the euro at least is dpp uncertainty should be also allowed.


For example I'm 50/50 on Nick Sal Santo getting dpp but can't trade either way as if he doesn't get dpp and I drop defenders now I'm in in trouble.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 05, 2014, 11:38:49 AM
i thought that was included anyway Holz as long as it's believable which NDS would be
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 05, 2014, 11:41:51 AM
You know what would be a good idea if someone was willing to do it?

We put together a list now of all the players we think are going to get DPP changes, and then if any player in that list does in fact get a change, or not, then the trade can be reversed/rejigged?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 05, 2014, 11:44:51 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 05, 2014, 11:41:51 AM
You know what would be a good idea if someone was willing to do it?

We put together a list now of all the players we think are going to get DPP changes, and then if any player in that list does in fact get a change, or not, then the trade can be reversed/rejigged?

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,98951.0.html

;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on November 05, 2014, 11:46:52 AM
Quote from: roo boys! on November 05, 2014, 07:45:12 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on November 05, 2014, 07:39:57 AM
Quote from: meow meow on November 04, 2014, 10:25:34 PM
Hey Os, would it be possible to do a trade under the proviso that it is automatically reversed if one or more of the players involved has his position changed if both coaches agree to that?

Nope. List lodgements under that proviso would be a head ache sorry
Could the two coaches involved just agree to complete the trade in reverse in the 2nd trade period after positional trades are announced?

Since the 2nd trade period will be a  1 for 1, 2 for 2, etc trade it would only work if it was an 'even number' trade. No picks could be involved. Have to hope it doesn't go over the salary cap, or one of the players hasn't retired/delisted for some reason... so many ways of it going wrong!

DPP change should be a factored risk in trades, like an injured player, young player, old player, etc...

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 05, 2014, 11:41:51 AM
You know what would be a good idea if someone was willing to do it?

We put together a list now of all the players we think are going to get DPP changes, and then if any player in that list does in fact get a change, or not, then the trade can be reversed/rejigged?

I'd be happy with this if someone voluntered, could get tricky though. Because an 'unexpected' change is just that, don't know how drunk the Champion Data people will be
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on November 05, 2014, 11:50:38 AM
I have a very detailed one I'll release Nov 11 ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 05, 2014, 11:54:23 AM
Cheers KB :)

Os, unexpected changes wouldn't be a problem. The list we put together just covers us all, but any unexpected changes from CD are fine, because they can also be reversed/rejigged as per the current rule
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on November 05, 2014, 02:48:03 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on November 05, 2014, 11:30:42 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 05, 2014, 11:14:38 AM
Quote from: roo boys! on November 05, 2014, 07:45:12 AM
Could the two coaches involved just agree to complete the trade in reverse in the 2nd trade period after positional trades are announced?

Perhaps just wait until positional changes are announced and then make the trade?
But if unexpectedly no positional changes are made then are you allowed to in the second period? I thought it was only for positional changes that HAD been made.

Yeah that is why I asked.

Like if I hypothetically wanted to trade Burgoyne for Bob Murphy but whoever has Bob didn't want to risk it due to the chance of Burgoyne being mid only, and they are both listed as defenders after positions are announced, would I be able to do that citing the uncertainty around Burgoyne?

If I was to do the trade now, and then Burgoyne becomes a mid only, Bob would be worth more and I win the trade. Creating an uneven trade. And some people seem to lose their shower over seemingly fair trades, so why should a team be hit with "too bad" due to DPP changes, but not "too bad" over a bad trade they made with no outside factors?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 11, 2014, 08:36:04 AM
Alright, with the trade period done and dusted, and almost 150 trades done, there are gonna be a number of teams looking pretty different in 2015. I think most teams would have improved, I guess we can find out!

Let's see if we can get everyone to post their new Best XV!

Also, if people want, they can list the draft picks they have and maybe a predicted ladder for 2015 (probably after all teams have posted their XV, or most anyway)?

Should create a bit of discussion in the two weeks until the draft.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on November 11, 2014, 09:26:07 AM
Quote from: Nige on November 11, 2014, 08:36:04 AM
Alright, with the trade period done and dusted, and almost 150 trades done, there are gonna be a number of teams looking pretty different in 2015. I think most teams would have improved, I guess we can find out!

Let's see if we can get everyone to post their new Best XV!

Also, if people want, they can list the draft picks they have and maybe a predicted ladder for 2015 (probably after all teams have posted their XV, or most anyway)?

Should create a bit of discussion in the two weeks until the draft.
Good idea mate. Going to be some scary sides next year! From my limited observation of trades it seems almost everyone has improved their best XV in some regard.

I'll have a go at Toronto's, factoring in some expected position changes (C.Young M to D/M, JZ M to M/F, Ryder R to R/F):
Def: R.Shaw, J.Kelly, C.Young, N.Grima
Mid: S.Pendlebury (C), R.Griffen, A.Swallow, B.Cunnington
Ruc: T.Hickey
Fwd: P.Ryder, J.Ziebell, L.Henderson, M.Pavlich
Int: I.Smith, R.Douglas

Emg: C.Sheehan (D), J.Crisp (M), M.Robinson (F)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 11, 2014, 09:36:19 AM
Cairo's would look something like:

D: B.Smith, E.Mackenzie, N.Smith, J.McGovern
M: D.Beams, D.Prestia, P.Hanley, M.Hutchings
R: S.Mumford
F: L.Breust, P.Puopolo, B.Brown, S.Dwyer
I: L.Dunstan, N.Gordon

E: R.Palmer, N.Kommer, R.Thompson

Something like that. We've got enough forwards rotate them around, so might even depend on match-ups or form and stuff there.

Should have the following picks in the draft if all our final trades go through: International Draft Picks: 10, 13, 31, 38, 50, 51, 52, 53, 65, 76, 77. That's 11 picks with 10 free list spaces. We'll probably elevate Jordon Bourke though, so we'll have 7 senior and 3 rookie spots to fill if my calculations are right.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on November 11, 2014, 10:05:58 AM
Not alot of shake up to Seouls best 15 but we do have plenty of good draft picks.

Def: Mckenzie, Newnes, Langdon, Sutcliffe

Mid: Dangerfield, Swallow, Greene, Ellis

Ruck: Mcevoy

Fwd: Lynch, Mcglynn, Matera, Boyd

Int: Kelly, Whitfield

Emg: Duryea, Kelly, Ceglar, Salem

liking my starting side the question is depth which can hopefully be addressed by draft picks.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on November 11, 2014, 10:19:14 AM
Beijing XV:
D: H.Taylor, M.Jaensch, C.Hooker, T.Jonas
M: O.Wines, J.Polec, J.Caddy, J.Aish
R: M.Kreuzer
F: E.Betts, S.Mayes, C.Dawes, A.Black
IC: L.Neale, L.Shiels

Emg: P.Davis / M.Weller / B.Grundy / T.Varcoe

Changes to Best XV:
OUT: J.Hunt, M.Rosa, D.Stanley, B.Grundy, T.Varcoe
IN: T.Jonas, J.Polec, A.Black, M.Kreuzer, C.Dawes

So that's our best XV before drafting, where we hold Picks 1, 23, 27 and 92. Need to go and see how many blokes we have on our list now so we can work out how many picks we'll need, but at this stage I think we're going to be taking all of those picks to the draft, and should be able to pick up some talent with them.

Our D4 and F4 positions are subject to change as there's a few blokes that are fighting for those spots. Depth is looking a lot better this year as well, hopefully we'll have more than 14 or 15 players a bit more regularly than we did last season! ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 11, 2014, 10:32:18 AM
For a team that finished near the bottom this year, I think we have a good team now that can really improve

B: Heath Shaw, Josh Gibson, Paul Duffield, Sam Fisher
C: Steve Johnson, Travis Boak, Mitch Duncan, Jack Macrae
R: Mike Pyke
F: Travis Cloke, Jack Gunston, Kurt Tippett, Josh J Kennedy
IC: Leigh Montagna, Jed Adcock

Emg: Jarrad Waite, Kade Kolodjashnij, Matt Rosa

Picks 11 and 28 are our good picks
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on November 11, 2014, 10:43:46 AM
Royals

Hopefully with the trades we have made we can have some depth this year:

This may be our starting 15: (last place open to conjecture given depth added)

B: Lumumba, Rampe, Baguley, Winderlich
M: Hanneberry, McVeigh, Stanton, Hoskin-Elliott
R: Bellchambers
F: LeCras, Mayne, Shane Edwards, Troy Menzell
U: MacKay, Sheppard

Emg: Touhy, Dannyle Pearce, Giles, Troy Menzell

We have 9 picks available to fill senior list,

Out: Daniher, Laird, Mackie, Broadbent. Matera, Gorringe, Lennon and delisted players Kaiden Brand, Jonathan Brown, Mitchell Brown, Jaryd Cachia, Ben Darrou, Stephen Gilham, Sean Gregory, Ben Hudson, Quentin Lynch, Fraser Thurlow, Matthew Warnock, Tom Young.
In: Sinclair, Sheppard, Baguley, Matt Shaw, Lecras, Hoskin-Elliott

Very large turnover at Royals this year.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on November 11, 2014, 11:46:04 AM
lol Ele and I were just looking at this... What NDT used to look like a few years ago

Garrick Ibbotson, Nicholas Duigan, Martin Mattner, Jordan Murdoch
(Ben Rutten, Lewis Roberts-Thomson, Zac Dawson, Dale Morris, Shaun Edwards, Josh Toy, Kyle Cheney)

Leigh Montagna, Simon Black, Sharrod Wellingham, Clinton Young
Domenic Cassisi, Brent Prismall
(Aaron Mullett, George Horlin-Smith, Matthew White, Rhys Palmer, Viv Michie, Piers Flanagan, Will Langford, Dylan Buckley, Kirk Ugle, Callum Bartlett, Sam Sheldon, Sam Dunell)

Max Bailey
(David Hille, Brent Renouf)

Daniel Giansiracusa, James Podsiadly, Ian Callinan, Justin Koschitzke
(Terry Milera, Nick Heyne)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 11, 2014, 12:02:15 PM
Just realised we only lost Douglas and Malceski from our best XV.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on November 11, 2014, 12:08:54 PM
Should be another good year for Cape Town we hope :P

Starting XV
B: Shane Savage, Shaun Higgins, Nick Haynes, Jasper Pittard
C: Josh P. Kennedy, Trent Cotchin, Dom Tyson, Scott Selwood
R: Stefan Martin
F: Tom Hawkins, Andrejs Everitt, Jeremy Cameron, Stewart Crameri
IC: Craig Bird, Adam Cooney

I think we have really improved our depth this off-season with our back-ups for each position looking strong. I think we have at least one ore more good reserve for each position. Here's a look at our reserves to highlight this.

Reserves
Def: Cam O'Shea, James Gwilt, Will Schofield, Lachie Plowman, Gary Rohan, Jimmy Toumpas, Alex Johnson, Brant Colledge, Harrison Marsh.
Mid: Ed Curnow, George Horlin-Smith, Alex Sexton, Darcy Lang, Trent Dumont, Michael Evans, Josh Cowan.
Ruc: Billy Longer, Mark Blicavs, Trent West.
Fwd: Lachie Hunter, Dean Kent, Sam Reid, Cam McCarthy, Mitch Honeychurch, Brandon Jack, Billie Smedts, Malcolm Karpany.


Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on November 11, 2014, 12:11:36 PM
Apart from Cario (but they've got some very good picks), looks as though most teams are stronger, so far.

I'll post mine, later.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on November 11, 2014, 12:18:07 PM
We have Nat 5 btw which get us a gun and then like 47, 57 and 61 which will just be used to top up our list with fillers most likely.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 11, 2014, 12:22:47 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on November 11, 2014, 12:11:36 PM
Apart from Cario (but they've got some very good picks), looks as though most teams are stronger, so far.

I'll post mine, later.
I still reckon we'll be fine tbh, the idea behind letting Eski go was that we could potentially get at least one younger defender into the starting XV to replace him and hope they grow to be as good as him. I mean, we may lose like 20ppg from going Eski to Nick Smith (basically who is replacing Eski in our backs) but I think long term it should be beneficial.

I'd be confident in saying that we'll be top 8 next year though.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Boomz on November 11, 2014, 01:06:32 PM
Def: Yarran, Suckling, R. Henderson/Dempsey/Johanissen/Broughton fighting for the last 2 unless Burgoyne gets def status
Mid: Kieran Jack, Anthony Miles, Luke Parker, Chris Judd
Ruck: Zac Smith
Fwd: Dahlhaus, Motlop, Carlisle, Lycett
U: Burgoyne, Cunningham

Reserves
Def: Rivers, Kennedy, Frost, Corr and the 2 who miss out on the starting spots from above.
Mid: Gleeson, Suban, Hewett, A. Young, Carrazzo
Ruck: Andrew Phillips, Tom Derickx
Fwd: J. Merrett, Ambrose, Jaksch, Cripps, C. Cameron, Lloyd

Have picks 39,43,44,45,64,69,72,80,84,86,88 but probably only going to use 6-7 of them.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on November 11, 2014, 01:44:58 PM
Christchurch before:

D: Burgoyne, Yarran, Dempster, Golby, Picken, Patfull, Buntine, Z.Jones, N.Smith, Roberton, Armstrong, White, D.Morris
M: Sloane, Hartlett, Whitfield, T.Adams, Lester, Freeman, Colyer, Armfield
R: Minson, H.McIntosh, Lowden, Hannath, Downie, King
F: Roughead, Devon, Gunston, Stringer, Jaksch, Kennedy-Harris, Daw, Sicily

Picks: 7, 20, 36, 37, 43


Christchurch after:

D: Dempster, Picken, Patfull, Buntine, Maguire, Roberton, Cameron, Armstrong, White
C: Gibbs, Hartlett, Shuey, S.Mitchell, M.Boyd, Scully, Lester, C. Smith, Hrovat, Freeman
R: Minson, Sandilands, McKernan, King
F: Zorko, Elliott, B.Reid, Stringer, Garlett, Green, Dickson, Sicily

Picks: 8, 16, 19, 20, 21, 22, 24, 25
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on November 11, 2014, 01:55:05 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 11, 2014, 01:44:58 PM
Christchurch before:

D: Burgoyne, Yarran, Dempster, Golby, Picken, Patfull, Buntine, Z.Jones, N.Smith, Roberton, Armstrong, White, D.Morris
M: Sloane, Hartlett, Whitfield, T.Adams, Lester, Freeman, Colyer, Armfield
R: Minson, H.McIntosh, Lowden, Hannath, Downie, King
F: Roughead, Devon, Gunston, Stringer, Jaksch, Kennedy-Harris, Daw, Sicily

Picks: 7, 20, 36, 37, 43


Christchurch after:

D: Dempster, Picken, Patfull, Buntine, Maguire, Roberton, Cameron, Armstrong, White
C: Gibbs, Hartlett, Shuey, S.Mitchell, M.Boyd, Scully, Lester, C. Smith, Hrovat, Freeman
R: Minson, Sandilands, McKernan, King
F: Zorko, Elliott, B.Reid, Stringer, Garlett, Green, Dickson, Sicily

Picks: 8, 16, 19, 20, 21, 22, 24, 25

I like the before team better to be honest. The picks could sway things your way in the future though. Good draft and you're dominating the second round.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on November 11, 2014, 02:00:40 PM
Yeh in terms of starting XV I like the first one slightly better also. But those draft pick will counter the those old pricks like Boyd, Mitchell and Sandi
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jukes on November 11, 2014, 02:09:02 PM
2014 - best XV that was playing then four back-ups
D: Shaw, Seedsman, Dunn, Vlastuin, Docherty, May, Frawley, Hombsch
M: Ward, Heppell, O'Meara, Griffen, Josh Thomas, Simpkin, Sheed, Ellard, Colquhoun
R: Naitanui, Clarke, Ceglar
F: Martin, Monfries, Vickery, Jenkins, May, Burbury, Lee, Tapscott (lol)

2015, add picks 14 and 17
D: McDonald, Vlastuin, Docherty, Seedsman, Dunn, Frawley, May, Hombsch
M: Ward, Heppell, O'Meara, Greenwood, Bastinac, Armitage, Josh Thomas, Sheed, Simpkin, Ellard
R: Naitanui, Gault
F: Gray, Monfries, Daniher, Hogan, Vickery, Ballantyne, Jenkins, Frawley

So improved immediate depth (i.e. utilities and primary back-ups) while maintaining a strong yet balanced best XV. Forward line definitely looks better, will need to draft a ruck though for sure. Lots of gun futures who could get good this season.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on November 11, 2014, 02:30:14 PM
NDT's 2014 Side

DEF Mullett, Webster, Langford, Talia Cheney, Stratton, Rutten
MIDS Montagna, Bastinac, Gaff, Greene, Duncan, Wellingham MWhite, Savage, Melksham
RUCK Hampson Nankervis
FWD Podsiadly, JMurdoch, Giansiracusa, LMcCarthy Dell'Olio, DGarlett



NDT's 2014 Side

DEF Mullett, Webster, JImpey, SDarley DTalia, ZWilliams, Cheney
MIDS Coniglio, Masten, Gaff, Conca, Trengove, Curren Seb Ross, Kerridge, NRobertson
RUCK Nicholls Warnock, Gorringe, Hannath, Nankervis
FWD ZClarke(fwd/ruck), JDarling, BGriffiths, KStevens JWhite, Apeness, JGrant, BJohnson, LMcCarthy

Mids are younger and slightly weaker but fwd line and ruck line are looking much much better
Also add in N3 and N4 to that side
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on November 11, 2014, 02:34:06 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 11, 2014, 02:00:40 PM
Yeh in terms of starting XV I like the first one slightly better also. But those draft pick will counter the those old pricks like Boyd, Mitchell and Sandi

I've only added one old prick. Sandi for Hmac, Mitchell for Burgoyne is a draw. Boyd for Adams is basically the only one, but when Boyd is gone Freeman will be gun so I don't mind doing that for +25ppg

Burgoyne > Picken -25
Yarran > Patfull -20
Sloane > Gibbs - 10
Whitfield > Shuey +20
Adams > Boyd +25
Lester > Mitchell +15, JS
HMac > Sandi +30
Roughy > Zorko +5
Devon > Elliott -5
Gunston > Reid -10

Best XV improves by 25. Got a showerload of extra picks, way better mid and forward cover, worse def cover.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on November 11, 2014, 04:05:17 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 11, 2014, 02:30:14 PM
NDT's 2014 Side

DEF Mullett, Webster, Langford, Talia Cheney, Stratton, Rutten
MIDS Montagna, Bastinac, Gaff, Greene, Duncan, Wellingham MWhite, Savage, Melksham
RUCK Hampson Nankervis
FWD Podsiadly, JMurdoch, Giansiracusa, LMcCarthy Dell'Olio, DGarlett



NDT's 2014 Side

DEF Mullett, Webster, JImpey, SDarley DTalia, ZWilliams, Cheney
MIDS Coniglio, Masten, Gaff, Conca, Trengove, Curren Seb Ross, Kerridge, NRobertson
RUCK Nicholls Warnock, Gorringe, Hannath, Nankervis
FWD ZClarke(fwd/ruck), JDarling, BGriffiths, KStevens JWhite, Apeness, JGrant, BJohnson, LMcCarthy

Mids are younger and slightly weaker but fwd line and ruck line are looking much much better
Also add in N3 and N4 to that side

Hard to tell which team is better.

Your forward line and has definitely improved but I'm not sure about the other lines.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on November 11, 2014, 04:18:47 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 11, 2014, 04:05:17 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 11, 2014, 02:30:14 PM
NDT's 2014 Side

DEF Mullett, Webster, Langford, Talia Cheney, Stratton, Rutten
MIDS Montagna, Bastinac, Gaff, Greene, Duncan, Wellingham MWhite, Savage, Melksham
RUCK Hampson Nankervis
FWD Podsiadly, JMurdoch, Giansiracusa, LMcCarthy Dell'Olio, DGarlett



NDT's 2014 Side

DEF Mullett, Webster, JImpey, SDarley DTalia, ZWilliams, Cheney
MIDS Coniglio, Masten, Gaff, Conca, Trengove, Curren Seb Ross, Kerridge, NRobertson
RUCK Nicholls Warnock, Gorringe, Hannath, Nankervis
FWD ZClarke(fwd/ruck), JDarling, BGriffiths, KStevens JWhite, Apeness, JGrant, BJohnson, LMcCarthy

Mids are younger and slightly weaker but fwd line and ruck line are looking much much better
Also add in N3 and N4 to that side

Hard to tell which team is better.

Your forward line and has definitely improved but I'm not sure about the other lines.
Yeh fwds are a a massive improvement.
As is the ruckline.
Defence has only lost Langford as a starter and replaced by Impey.
Mids have taken a step back but see the differences as:
Conigs = Greene
Masten = Bastinac
Trengove > Montags (Trengove has long term value)
Conca < Duncan (for next year, a couple of years down the track maybe not so much)
Curren/Kerridge/Ross > Wellingham
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on November 11, 2014, 05:21:56 PM
Hopefully you draft some decent defenders with that backline Rico  :-X
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on November 11, 2014, 05:27:13 PM
Quote from: Master Q on November 11, 2014, 05:21:56 PM
Hopefully you draft some decent defenders with that backline Rico  :-X
Mullett to bounce back to that 80ish ave from last year, Webster to breakout after teasing us this year, Impey will explode in his second year, and ZDawson to break out in his 9th season ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on November 11, 2014, 05:31:09 PM
Well, I don't know how other people see our rebuild. But it has been that great to be completely honest but decent given the currency we had.

We were unable to get a ruck which was the main problem.

But have dramatically increased the depth. We still lack stars but we feel the currency of numerous players will increase enough for us to have better trading power next season which is somewhat the plan.

Been a dramatic turn-over, will be delisting close to 20 players.

BEST XV:

Defence: S.Gilbert, T.Chaplin, S.Atley, S.Biggs.
Midfield: T.Adams, B.Hill, M.Crouch, M.Wallis.
Ruck: J.Redden
Forward: J.Schulz, T.Membrey, L.Thomas, J.Neade.
Utility: A.Brayshaw, L.Jong.

RESERVES:

Defence: C.Newman, E.Wood, T.Goldsack, J.Clarke, X.Richards,T.Cutler, D.Morris, D.Terlich, J.Ramsay.
Midfield: N.Foley, B.Acres, N.Graham, J.Melksham, B.Newton, J.McKenzie, S.Lemmens, J.Harmes.
Ruck: N/A
Forward: L.Jones, J.Tutt, R.Bewick, P.Karnezis, D.Armfield, J.Butcher, N.Wilson, J.Freeman, M.Close, P.Stewart.

PLUS: N7, N15, N41.

Gonna be a tough year next season but hopefully we some improvement from most of the young players.

Basically every single player is a new recruit except: Redden, Schulz, Newman, Wood, Cutler, Ramsay, Stewart, Freeman, McKenzie, Harmes.

We have a lot of players that we think will increase in value next year which will open up our options a bit.

Not overly happy but satisfied I guess.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on November 11, 2014, 05:55:04 PM
Think you've done a pretty great job vin considering what you had :)

Oooh you think you're gonna get Brayshaw do ya? ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on November 11, 2014, 05:56:06 PM
Quote from: Toga on November 11, 2014, 05:55:04 PM
Think you've done a pretty great job vin considering what you had :)

Oooh you think you're gonna get Brayshaw do ya? ;)
Haha thanks man.

We'll be happy either way! 8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 11, 2014, 05:56:17 PM
Quote from: Toga on November 11, 2014, 05:55:04 PM
Oooh you think you're gonna get Brayshaw do ya? ;)

lol wtf
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on November 11, 2014, 06:02:30 PM
Quote from: Vinny on November 11, 2014, 05:31:09 PM
Utility: A.Brayshaw,

Jumping the gun a bit there Vinny?

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 11, 2014, 06:05:11 PM
Gonna be playing an OOP ruck all season eh Vin? Lack of an obvious captain option could hurt too.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on November 11, 2014, 06:07:59 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 11, 2014, 05:56:17 PM
Quote from: Toga on November 11, 2014, 05:55:04 PM
Oooh you think you're gonna get Brayshaw do ya? ;)

lol wtf
What?

Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 11, 2014, 06:02:30 PM
Quote from: Vinny on November 11, 2014, 05:31:09 PM
Utility: A.Brayshaw,

Jumping the gun a bit there Vinny?
Yep.

Quote from: Nige on November 11, 2014, 06:05:11 PM
Gonna be playing an OOP ruck all season eh Vin? Lack of an obvious captain option could hurt too.
Yeah man, that's the worst part. :(

Those two things are going to kill us.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 11, 2014, 06:12:29 PM
Quote from: Vinny on November 11, 2014, 06:07:59 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 11, 2014, 06:05:11 PM
Gonna be playing an OOP ruck all season eh Vin? Lack of an obvious captain option could hurt too.
Yeah man, that's the worst part. :(

Those two things are going to kill us.
Maybe try and get one in the second period? Idk.

Should maybe change plans and draft a ruck with your first pick.  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on November 11, 2014, 06:14:15 PM
Yeah no one really wants to give away rucks though. I'll see what we can do!

We went hard for Clarke but got beaten by NDT. :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on November 11, 2014, 06:15:39 PM
Mustnt have gone that hard :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on November 11, 2014, 06:16:08 PM
Quote from: Vinny on November 11, 2014, 06:14:15 PM
Yeah no one really wants to give away rucks though. I'll see what we can do!

We went hard for Clarke but got beaten by NDT. :(
Yeh drove up his price ya barbies :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on November 11, 2014, 06:18:15 PM
Interesting that a few teams have outlined a need for a ruck in this draft when there's no standout young rucks this year :o

Will make for some interesting viewing ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on November 11, 2014, 06:20:18 PM
Peter Wright is a pretty standout R/F?

Dunno why they are taking Brayshaw at 2 instead of him ???
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on November 11, 2014, 06:21:36 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 11, 2014, 06:20:18 PM
Peter Wright is a pretty standout R/F?

Dunno why they are taking Brayshaw at 2 instead of him ???
BGrundy 2.0
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on November 11, 2014, 06:22:53 PM
;D >:D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on November 11, 2014, 06:32:04 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 11, 2014, 06:20:18 PM
Peter Wright is a pretty standout R/F?

Dunno why they are taking Brayshaw at 2 instead of him ???

Yeah if you need a ruck there's two possibles in Moore and Wright in the draft who could both be ruc/forwards.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on November 11, 2014, 06:37:20 PM
Moore? Durdin has more chance and I'd say he has a 0.1% chance.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 11, 2014, 06:40:37 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 11, 2014, 06:37:20 PM
Moore? Durdin has more chance and I'd say he has a 0.1% chance.
Yeah haha, I was literally like ??? when I read that.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on November 11, 2014, 06:41:05 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 11, 2014, 06:20:18 PM
Peter Wright is a pretty standout R/F?

Yeah of the potential rucks he's the obvious standout but he's said that he sees himself playing as a centre half forward instead - so will be interesting if he keeps DPP if that's where he plays. Definitely is Grundy 2.0!

Durdin another that could get D/R but as meow said its not all that likely, haven't heard anything about Moore rucking?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 11, 2014, 07:30:29 PM
Quote from: Vinny on November 11, 2014, 06:07:59 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 11, 2014, 05:56:17 PM
Quote from: Toga on November 11, 2014, 05:55:04 PM
Oooh you think you're gonna get Brayshaw do ya? ;)

lol wtf
What?


you think you will get Brayshaw with pick 7?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on November 11, 2014, 07:32:48 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 11, 2014, 07:30:29 PM
Quote from: Vinny on November 11, 2014, 06:07:59 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 11, 2014, 05:56:17 PM
Quote from: Toga on November 11, 2014, 05:55:04 PM
Oooh you think you're gonna get Brayshaw do ya? ;)

lol wtf
What?


you think you will get Brayshaw with pick 7?
They have pick 2 man
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on November 11, 2014, 07:33:31 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 11, 2014, 07:30:29 PM
Quote from: Vinny on November 11, 2014, 06:07:59 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 11, 2014, 05:56:17 PM
Quote from: Toga on November 11, 2014, 05:55:04 PM
Oooh you think you're gonna get Brayshaw do ya? ;)

lol wtf
What?


you think you will get Brayshaw with pick 7?
Yes, yes I do. Also thinking Petrecca is going to slip to 15. :P We got Pick 2 aswell man.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on November 11, 2014, 07:35:59 PM
if all trades pass then our starting lineup will be

Backs: Luke Hodge, Nick Malceski, Corey Enright, Jarrod Harbrow
Mids: Matt Priddis, Nathan Jones, Dylan Shiel, Dane Swan
Rucks: Matthew Lobbe
Fwds: Chad Wingard, Justin Westhoff, Cyril Rioli, Tom. T. Lynch
UTL: Daniel Rich, David Myers
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 11, 2014, 07:36:04 PM
ok you only listed N7
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on November 11, 2014, 07:50:50 PM
Quote from: The BeDazzler on November 11, 2014, 07:35:59 PM
if all trades pass then our starting lineup will be

Backs: Luke Hodge, Nick Malceski, Corey Enright, Jarrod Harbrow
Mids: Matt Priddis, Nathan Jones, Dylan Shiel, Dane Swan
Rucks: Matthew Lobbe
Fwds: Chad Wingard, Justin Westhoff, Cyril Rioli, Tom. T. Lynch
UTL: Daniel Rich, David Myers
Solid, solid team.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on November 11, 2014, 07:52:00 PM
Congrats Vinny!

The new, and third, coach of Buenos Aires!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on November 11, 2014, 07:53:46 PM
flower yeh. congrats legend
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on November 11, 2014, 08:03:32 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on November 11, 2014, 07:52:00 PM
Congrats Vinny!

The new, and third, coach of Buenos Aires!
so nails stepped down form dillos too?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on November 11, 2014, 08:05:19 PM
Well deserved vinny, been doing a great job champ!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on November 11, 2014, 08:17:55 PM
Do you have experience with rubbish dumps Vinny?  :P

Congrats  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 11, 2014, 08:19:04 PM
Quote from: Master Q on November 11, 2014, 08:17:55 PM
Do you have experience with rubbish dumps Vinny?  :P

Congrats  ;)

he used to work at a retirement home but it's turned into a youth centre now
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on November 11, 2014, 08:31:45 PM
Quote from: The BeDazzler on November 11, 2014, 08:03:32 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on November 11, 2014, 07:52:00 PM
Congrats Vinny!

The new, and third, coach of Buenos Aires!
so nails stepped down form dillos too?

nope, sorry, co-coach
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on November 11, 2014, 08:42:47 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 11, 2014, 06:05:11 PM
Gonna be playing an OOP ruck all season eh Vin?

#tanking :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on November 11, 2014, 08:43:32 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 11, 2014, 08:42:47 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 11, 2014, 06:05:11 PM
Gonna be playing an OOP ruck all season eh Vin?

#tanking :P
Sack Vinnamon
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on November 11, 2014, 08:44:08 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on November 11, 2014, 08:31:45 PM
Quote from: The BeDazzler on November 11, 2014, 08:03:32 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on November 11, 2014, 07:52:00 PM
Congrats Vinny!

The new, and third, coach of Buenos Aires!
so nails stepped down form dillos too?

nope, sorry, co-coach

thought so just wanted to make sure ;)
congrats Vin :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 11, 2014, 09:29:24 PM
am i he only one that thinks only trading for DPP changes in the 2nd trade period is really silly?

for starters it's easy to make up reasons for needing a player even though Ossie has to approve it but still easy

nothing like AFL trading and everyone wants it to be as close to AFL as possible

imo i think we should just have limited trade movements and make it one for one trades for list sizes in the 2nd period

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on November 11, 2014, 09:32:23 PM
There are limited movements iirc... could easily be wrong.

You don't trade if you don't want to kb, it's no big deal IMO  :-X
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on November 11, 2014, 09:33:51 PM
Cheers guys, happy for it to be official. :)


Quote from: Master Q on November 11, 2014, 09:32:23 PM
You don't trade if you don't want to kb, it's no big deal IMO  :-X
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 11, 2014, 09:37:38 PM
Just find it silly sorry for posting ::)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on November 11, 2014, 09:43:43 PM
Didn't say you couldn't post haha, settle. Just disagree, that's allowed right? :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 11, 2014, 09:45:32 PM
Just the way Q worded it is pretty hostile when I was just seeing if anybody thought the same
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on November 11, 2014, 09:49:04 PM
Oh right. Well I didn't mean it that way at least haha.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on November 12, 2014, 11:21:44 AM
I'd be in favour of having a set number of trades (say max of 5) or capping the number of players you can trade in/out in the second period rather than having to make it about players losing/changing dpp.

What's the criteria for that anyway. Can we argue that because Player A lost Def status or didn't get fwd status we need to find a replacement for him?

Or do the players that didn't get dpp, lost a position or got dpp have to be included in the trade?'

I mean every team is probably going to have at least one player change positions on them.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on November 12, 2014, 11:28:53 AM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 12, 2014, 11:21:44 AM
I'd be in favour of having a set number of trades (say max of 5) or capping the number of players you can trade in/out in the second period rather than having to make it about players losing/changing dpp.

What's the criteria for that anyway. Can we argue that because Player A lost Def status or didn't get fwd status we need to find a replacement for him?

Or do the players that didn't get dpp, lost a position or got dpp have to be included in the trade?'

I mean every team is probably going to have at least one player change positions on them.

Yes, the criteria for DPP changes is pretty soft. So when you say this:

QuoteWhat's the criteria for that anyway. Can we argue that because Player A lost Def status or didn't get fwd status we need to find a replacement for him?

You can argue that. And only one party has to be involved.

But the real restrictions are you can only have FOUR player movements that period, and they have to be 1 for 1, 2 for 2, 3 for 3 or 4 for 4.

Last couple of times have been pretty quiet.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on November 12, 2014, 11:31:38 AM
Just out of interest do we have a rough idea of when we're going to be starting the nat draft Oz? I know it's a while away, but just wondering how long after the AFL draft (Nov 27) we might start, just due to personal commitments etc. :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on November 12, 2014, 11:48:09 AM
Yeah similar for me, right after the draft would be good. I won't be around as much at all after December 7th. :-\
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on November 12, 2014, 11:57:50 AM
Quote from: Toga on November 12, 2014, 11:31:38 AM
Just out of interest do we have a rough idea of when we're going to be starting the nat draft Oz? I know it's a while away, but just wondering how long after the AFL draft (Nov 27) we might start, just due to personal commitments etc. :)

sorry been very slack, will wait, but prefer until AFL lists are finalised so we know who is available
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on November 12, 2014, 12:10:25 PM
Yeah no worries Oz, got plenty of time just thought I'd ask whether any plans had been made yet :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on November 12, 2014, 12:41:43 PM
Quote from: The BeDazzler on November 11, 2014, 07:35:59 PM
if all trades pass then our starting lineup will be

Backs: Luke Hodge, Nick Malceski, Corey Enright, Jarrod Harbrow
Mids: Matt Priddis, Nathan Jones, Dylan Shiel, Dane Swan
Rucks: Matthew Lobbe
Fwds: Chad Wingard, Justin Westhoff, Cyril Rioli, Tom. T. Lynch
UTL: Daniel Rich, David Myers
Nice team guys. Have done very well
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 12, 2014, 01:20:20 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 12, 2014, 12:41:43 PM
Quote from: The BeDazzler on November 11, 2014, 07:35:59 PM
if all trades pass then our starting lineup will be

Backs: Luke Hodge, Nick Malceski, Corey Enright, Jarrod Harbrow
Mids: Matt Priddis, Nathan Jones, Dylan Shiel, Dane Swan
Rucks: Matthew Lobbe
Fwds: Chad Wingard, Justin Westhoff, Cyril Rioli, Tom. T. Lynch
UTL: Daniel Rich, David Myers
Nice team guys. Have done very well
I agree. The team looks even better than last season, they've added Hodge, Malceski and Swan while barely losing anybody from the best XV.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on November 12, 2014, 02:07:24 PM
Cheers fellas :D. Only changes to starting team from this year was: Jaensch and Kade Simpson out for Eski, Hodge and Swan. Also got a pick upgrade from #15 to #6 :D. Although we lost a tonne of depth from our forward line and scorers from our back depth, but we always had too much depth haha. Will do the team again but add like top 3 back ups.

Backs: Luke Hodge, Nick Malceski, Corey Enright, Jarrod Harbrow (Marley Williams, Jackson Trengove, Seb Tape/Jed Bews)
Mids: Matt Priddis, Nathan Jones, Dane Swan, Dylan Shiel, Daniel Rich, David Myers (Farren Ray, Thomas Sheridan, Mitch Hallahan)
Rucks: Matthew Lobbe (Jonathon Griffin, Sam Naismith)
Fwds: Justin Westhoff, Cyril Rioli, Chad Wingard, Tom. T. Lynch (Zach Merrett, Zack Billings, Levi Casboult)

Forwards still got potential for that #4 spot, backs a bit lacking in depth but happy everywhere else :). And we pray Lobbe doesn't go down again :P.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on November 12, 2014, 07:16:16 PM
Def: Michael Hibberd, Jack Grimes, Jarryn Geary, Xavier Ellis
Mid: Nathan Fyfe (C), Jack Steven, Brad Crouch, Adam Treloar
Ruc: Mark Jamar
For: Charlie Dixon, Dale Thomas, Ricky Petterd, Jack Watts
Int: Daniel Wells, Daniel Cross


A lot depends on Daisy, Dixon and Grimes really, but fairly content with this starting XV.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on November 12, 2014, 10:03:26 PM
If DPP and Trading goes my way this isnt too shabby

Backs:  A.Rance, G.Birchall, R.Murphy, N. Dal Santo
Mids: J.Selwood, R.Sloane, J.Watson, T.Liberatore
Ruck: T.Goldstein
Fwds: L.Franklin, D.Martin, J.Roughead, H.Bennell
Interchange: D.Mundy, S.Thompson
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on November 12, 2014, 10:20:22 PM
A.Rance - #1 in the AFL for clangers
G.Birchall - bad knee
R.Murphy - old, 1st tagged now
N. Dal Santo - will finally get an injury for once in his career
J.Selwood - will KO himself 4 weeks in a row and retire due to brain damage
R.Sloane - Crouch bros will steal his points
J.Watson - always cops an injury at the worst time
T.Liberatore
T.Goldstein - due for an injury
L.Franklin - will dish up a 35 and cost you an important match
D.Martin - will get pissed with Swanny and cop a club suspension
J.Roughead - will miss 8 weeks with severe sunburn
J.Bennell - boycott since the coach doesn't know his name
D.Mundy - Ross will rest him for the WXV GF
S.Thompson - has-been, will get dropped by the Crows
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 12, 2014, 10:21:39 PM
And will still be premiers
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 12, 2014, 10:22:18 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 12, 2014, 10:20:22 PM
A.Rance - #1 in the AFL for clangers
G.Birchall - bad knee
R.Murphy - old, 1st tagged now
N. Dal Santo - will finally get an injury for once in his career
J.Selwood - will KO himself 4 weeks in a row and retire due to brain damage
R.Sloane - Crouch bros will steal his points
J.Watson - always cops an injury at the worst time
T.Liberatore
T.Goldstein - due for an injury
L.Franklin - will dish up a 35 and cost you an important match
D.Martin - will get pissed with Swanny and cop a club suspension
J.Roughead - will miss 8 weeks with severe sunburn
J.Bennell - boycott since the coach doesn't know his name
D.Mundy - Ross will rest him for the WXV GF
S.Thompson - has-been, will get dropped by the Crows
If any of these hold true in 2015, meow is the true prophet.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on November 12, 2014, 10:30:45 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 12, 2014, 10:20:22 PM
A.Rance - #1 in the AFL for clangers
G.Birchall - bad knee
R.Murphy - old, 1st tagged now
N. Dal Santo - will finally get an injury for once in his career
J.Selwood - will KO himself 4 weeks in a row and retire due to brain damage
R.Sloane - Crouch bros will steal his points
J.Watson - always cops an injury at the worst time
T.Liberatore
T.Goldstein - due for an injury
L.Franklin - will dish up a 35 and cost you an important match
D.Martin - will get pissed with Swanny and cop a club suspension
J.Roughead - will miss 8 weeks with severe sunburn
J.Bennell - boycott since the coach doesn't know his name
D.Mundy - Ross will rest him for the WXV GF
S.Thompson - has-been, will get dropped by the Crows

Haha!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on November 13, 2014, 11:42:59 AM
Not sure what's going to happen with my Rocky trade, but atm my team is:

Defenders: Kade Simpson, Shannon Hurn, Michael Johnson, Matthew Broadbent
Midfielders: Steele Sidebottom, Bryce Gibbs, Jordan Lewis, Brendon Goddard
Rucks: Aaron Sandilands
Forwards: Brett Deledio, Brent Harvey, Jimmy Bartel, Nick Riewoldt
Interchange: Brad Ebert, Ivan Maric

Emergencies: Allen Christensen, Matt Stokes,  Scott D. Thompson

That's if DPP goes my way. Must say I'm pretty happy with it  :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 13, 2014, 11:50:13 AM
Some really strong teams here

I think Dublin, Mexico and PNL stand out to me as being the most strongest teams, but I'm pleasantly surprised at how much we have improved and really think we can be the big improvers for 2015. Not a premiership threat, but much better than bottom 4
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on November 13, 2014, 11:52:00 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 13, 2014, 11:50:13 AM
Some really strong teams here

I think Dublin, Mexico and PNL stand out to me as being the most strongest teams, but I'm pleasantly surprised at how much we have improved and really think we can be the big improvers for 2015. Not a premiership threat, but much better than bottom 4
I reckon you guys, along with Rio (because of Ablett) should be pushing for top four, too.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on November 13, 2014, 11:55:42 AM
dogez pls... NDT are the only real contenders
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 13, 2014, 12:00:04 PM
will do one for Seoul

D: McKenzie, Langdon, Newnes, Sutcliffe
M: Dangerfield, Greene, D Swallow, Ellis
R: McEvoy
F: Boyd, Lynch, Matera, Ceglar/Salem
I/C: McGlynn, Kelly/Whitfield

hard to believe Kelly and Whitfield might be fighting for a spot

i think McGlynn will lose DPP jbs thinks he may keep it

think it's a good team but good enough for top 8
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on November 13, 2014, 01:01:50 PM
Going on last year's averages:

Dublin
Backs:  A.Rance (88), G.Birchall (88), R.Murphy (88), N. Dal Santo (105)
Mids: J.Selwood (120 x 2 = 240), R.Sloane (114), J.Watson (106), T.Boak (105)
Ruck: T.Goldstein (106)
Fwds: L.Franklin (108), D.Martin (99), J.Roughead (95), J.Gunston (90)
Interchange: D.Mundy (104), S.Thompson (99)

Total 1635

Mexico City
Defenders: Kade Simpson (95), Shannon Hurn (91), Michael Johnson (87), Matthew Broadbent (83)
Midfielders: Steele Sidebottom (113 x 2 = 226), Bryce Gibbs (106), Jordan Lewis (109), Brendon Goddard (107)
Rucks: Aaron Sandilands (108)
Forwards: Brett Deledio (102), Brent Harvey (107), Jimmy Bartel (102), Nick Riewoldt (91)
Interchange: Brad Ebert (94), Ivan Maric (99)

Total 1607

Not that far off Dublin, I've got much better depth, too. I reckon it will be even closer this year. Competition starting to become more even, too.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levis43 on November 13, 2014, 04:47:08 PM
If our revised Mackie trade goes through then our starting team will look like this:

D: Andrew Walker, Bachar Houli, Andrew Mackie, Beau Waters
M: Gary Ablett, Marc Murphy, David Zaharakis, Stephen Hill
R: Sam Jacobs
F: Paul Chapman, Taylor Walker, Jack Riewoldt, Matthew Wright
I: Bernie Vince, Kane Cornes
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on November 13, 2014, 08:49:48 PM
Quote from: Levis43 on November 13, 2014, 04:47:08 PM
If our revised Mackie trade goes through then our starting team will look like this:

D: Andrew Walker, Bachar Houli, Andrew Mackie, Beau Waters
M: Gary Ablett, Marc Murphy, David Zaharakis, Stephen Hill
R: Sam Jacobs
F: Paul Chapman, Taylor Walker, Jack Riewoldt, Matthew Wright
I: Bernie Vince, Kane Cornes

Very nice if Beau can keep his shoulders/elbows stuck together with glue this season :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 14, 2014, 02:37:05 PM
Went to post a gif in the trade talk thread and the pop up that appears when you hit notify appeared.

So, I'll have to leave the one I was going to post waiting in the wings, but I'm not going to pass up the opportunity to post another.

(http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2013/02/impressed.gif)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on November 16, 2014, 06:29:03 PM
Everytime I read "The 2014 U18/Draft Thread" I realise how smart Meow was to trade in basically the whole second round of the draft.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 16, 2014, 06:34:53 PM
Quote from: Vinny on November 16, 2014, 06:29:03 PM
Everytime I read "The 2014 U18/Draft Thread" I realise how smart Meow was to trade in basically the whole second round of the draft.
I also look at it the other way as well. It surprises me how happy people were to trade drafts picks.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on November 16, 2014, 06:38:01 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 16, 2014, 06:34:53 PM
Quote from: Vinny on November 16, 2014, 06:29:03 PM
Everytime I read "The 2014 U18/Draft Thread" I realise how smart Meow was to trade in basically the whole second round of the draft.
I also look at it the other way as well. It surprises me how happy people were to trade drafts picks.
I liked draft picks but also my team, otherwise I would have traded in a bunch in the 30-40 range as well for some players who'd likely slip there. Why I rated picks :P.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on November 16, 2014, 07:39:00 PM
Our first three picks are 1, 23 and 27. Pretty happy with that  :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on November 16, 2014, 07:39:42 PM
We got 2, 7 & 15 which is pretty decent. :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on November 16, 2014, 08:09:54 PM
We tried to grab picks but meow got in too fast.  :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on November 16, 2014, 09:07:20 PM
3 and 4... no biggy
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on November 16, 2014, 09:22:56 PM
I've got none lol

At least I can't get blamed for not selecting at player at whatever pick  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on November 16, 2014, 10:09:48 PM
No picks but pretty happy with the squad as it is.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on November 16, 2014, 10:35:56 PM
Quote from: Vinny on November 16, 2014, 06:29:03 PM
Everytime I read "The 2014 U18/Draft Thread" I realise how smart Meow was to trade in basically the whole second round of the draft.

Not really. I didn't keep many.

I had 26, 27, 30, 33, 36, 37, 41, 43 at various stages but they were all traded out. I would have liked to have been able to keep a couple of them but with the cap and all I can't even delist Simon White, so there's only so many spots on the list that can be used on picks.

I'll just have to settle for 8 picks in the top 25  :'(

Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 16, 2014, 08:09:54 PM
We tried to grab picks but meow got in too fast.  :(

Sorry Torp. Next time I'll give you a head start of weeks and weeks to work out some trades before I get involved.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 16, 2014, 10:37:41 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 16, 2014, 10:35:56 PM
I'll just have to settle for 8 picks in the top 25  :'(
You poor thing.  :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on November 17, 2014, 10:26:50 AM
Quote from: Holz on November 16, 2014, 10:09:48 PM
No picks but pretty happy with the squad as it is.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on November 17, 2014, 12:58:36 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 16, 2014, 10:35:56 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 16, 2014, 08:09:54 PM
We tried to grab picks but meow got in too fast.  :(

Sorry Torp. Next time I'll give you a head start of weeks and weeks to work out some trades before I get involved.
Lol. He's right Torp, no excuses  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on November 17, 2014, 01:02:02 PM
Quote from: Master Q on November 17, 2014, 12:58:36 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 16, 2014, 10:35:56 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 16, 2014, 08:09:54 PM
We tried to grab picks but meow got in too fast.  :(

Sorry Torp. Next time I'll give you a head start of weeks and weeks to work out some trades before I get involved.
Lol. He's right Torp, no excuses  :P

I was offering up 2 first round picks weeks before meow came into the comp and nobody wanted them.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on November 17, 2014, 05:43:37 PM
well trading didn't go my way so this is the squad

Backs:  A.Rance, G.Birchall, R.Murphy, L.Hansen
Mids: J.Selwood, R.Sloane, J.Watson, T.Boak
Ruck: T.Goldstein
Fwds: L.Franklin, D.Martin, J.Roughead, J.Gunston
Interchange: D.Mundy, N.Dal Santo
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on November 17, 2014, 05:45:34 PM
That is beautiful to look at haha. Lock in the flag!

That is close to the perfect forward line. Probably only missing Gray.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on November 17, 2014, 05:47:35 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 17, 2014, 05:43:37 PM
well trading didn't go my way so this is the squad

Backs:  A.Rance, G.Birchall, R.Murphy, L.Hansen
Mids: J.Selwood, R.Sloane, J.Watson, T.Boak
Ruck: T.Goldstein
Fwds: L.Franklin, D.Martin, J.Roughead, J.Gunston
Interchange: D.Mundy, N.Dal Santo

I'm sort of hard.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on November 17, 2014, 06:08:35 PM
Quote from: Vinny on November 17, 2014, 05:45:34 PM
That is beautiful to look at haha. Lock in the flag!

That is close to the perfect forward line. Probably only missing Gray.

I certainly don't mind looking at it.

not sure about the lock, with Rocky as a 125 captain I think Mexico could be the front runner. But Im defaintely a decent chance of back to back. Its stronger than it was last year.

just for comparison it was

Backs:  A.Rance, G.Birchall, R.Murphy, L.Hansen
Mids: J.Selwood, T.Rockliff, J.Watson, T.Boak
Ruck: T.Goldstein
Fwds: L.Franklin, R.Gray, C.Dixon, J.Watts
Interchange: D.Mundy, N.Dal Santo

so out Rocky Gray Dixon Watts in  Sloane Martin Roughy Gunston.

I think that's an improvement.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on November 17, 2014, 06:20:07 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 17, 2014, 06:08:35 PM
Quote from: Vinny on November 17, 2014, 05:45:34 PM
That is beautiful to look at haha. Lock in the flag!

That is close to the perfect forward line. Probably only missing Gray.

I certainly don't mind looking at it.

not sure about the lock, with Rocky as a 125 captain I think Mexico could be the front runner. But Im defaintely a decent chance of back to back. Its stronger than it was last year.

just for comparison it was

Backs:  A.Rance, G.Birchall, R.Murphy, L.Hansen
Mids: J.Selwood, T.Rockliff, J.Watson, T.Boak
Ruck: T.Goldstein
Fwds: L.Franklin, R.Gray, C.Dixon, J.Watts
Interchange: D.Mundy, N.Dal Santo

so out Rocky Gray Dixon Watts in  Sloane Martin Roughy Gunston.

I think that's an improvement.

It sure is an improvement.

Roughead and Gunston are way better than Dixon and Watts. Dusty = Gray pretty much while there's not that much difference between Rocky and Sloane and I think that gap closes again this year.

Going to be real hard to stop this season - could easily be Dublin up the number of WXV flags you have next September...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on November 17, 2014, 06:24:10 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 17, 2014, 06:08:35 PM
Quote from: Vinny on November 17, 2014, 05:45:34 PM
That is beautiful to look at haha. Lock in the flag!

That is close to the perfect forward line. Probably only missing Gray.

I certainly don't mind looking at it.

not sure about the lock, with Rocky as a 125 captain I think Mexico could be the front runner. But Im defaintely a decent chance of back to back. Its stronger than it was last year.

just for comparison it was

Backs:  A.Rance, G.Birchall, R.Murphy, L.Hansen
Mids: J.Selwood, T.Rockliff, J.Watson, T.Boak
Ruck: T.Goldstein
Fwds: L.Franklin, R.Gray, C.Dixon, J.Watts
Interchange: D.Mundy, N.Dal Santo

so out Rocky Gray Dixon Watts in  Sloane Martin Roughy Gunston.

I think that's an improvement.
Yeah definitely an improvement. Rocky is a loss but still got plenty of good captain options.

Reply to my T10 PM man. :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 17, 2014, 06:38:28 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 17, 2014, 05:43:37 PM
trading didn't go my way
He says even though he turned Rocky, Gray, Dixon and Watts into Sloane, Dusty, Roughy and Gunston.

I fail to see how that's not going one's way.

With the exception of Sloane > Rocky, you could say the others are improvements.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on November 17, 2014, 06:40:53 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 17, 2014, 06:38:28 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 17, 2014, 05:43:37 PM
trading didn't go my way
He says even though he turned Rocky, Gray, Dixon and Watts into Sloane, Dusty, Roughy and Gunston.

I fail to see how that's not going one's way.

With the exception of Sloane > Rocky, you could say the others are improvements.
Pretty sure Holz means the HBennell/Libba trade didn't work out man
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on November 17, 2014, 06:45:17 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 17, 2014, 06:40:53 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 17, 2014, 06:38:28 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 17, 2014, 05:43:37 PM
trading didn't go my way
He says even though he turned Rocky, Gray, Dixon and Watts into Sloane, Dusty, Roughy and Gunston.

I fail to see how that's not going one's way.

With the exception of Sloane > Rocky, you could say the others are improvements.
Pretty sure Holz means the HBennell/Libba trade didn't work out man

yeah that's it.

feeling I may lose out on the Rocky for Gunston + Boak deal as im not super confident on gunston and I have faith in my man rocky. but lets see how it goes.

lost basically all my picks but happy with the bench additions of Thompson and scharenberg.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 17, 2014, 08:01:01 PM
i assume holz would be the first team to go back to back in all xv comps?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on November 17, 2014, 08:07:35 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 17, 2014, 08:01:01 PM
i assume holz would be the first team to go back to back in all xv comps?

never happened in the euro. But hold up lets see if it happens first. As I said I fancy Mexico City next year. They have a deeper squad which based off last year with rocky I think out averages me.

I need my young guys to lift abit from last year but in fantasy anything can happen on the day. Probably 4-5 teams that are capable of winning it next year.

PNL is a good dark horse, I think they should be top 4 and could be a real danger team. Suns and PNL is who I fear next year.

If Christchurch keep Rocky they would be a big threat too.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on November 17, 2014, 08:08:30 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 17, 2014, 08:01:01 PM
i assume holz would be the first team to go back to back in all xv comps?

Bangladesh Bears (Adamant) won the first two AXV flags back to back ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on November 17, 2014, 08:11:13 PM
I think Rio are a major threat too. They are the 4th best team IMO after Dublin, Mexico and PNL.

Def: A. Walker, B. Houli, A. Mackie, B. Waters
Mid: G. Ablett, M. Murphy, D. Zaharakis, S. Hill
Ruck: S. Jacobs
Fwd: T. Walker, J. Riewoldt, M. Wright, P. Chapman
Interchange: B. Vince, K. Cornes

Pretty good depth too. Levis has done well.


Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 17, 2014, 08:12:02 PM
Quote from: Toga on November 17, 2014, 08:08:30 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 17, 2014, 08:01:01 PM
i assume holz would be the first team to go back to back in all xv comps?

Bangladesh Bears (Adamant) won the first two AXV flags back to back ;)

oh damn i wanted my bxv team or axviii sc team to be the first in a year or 2 that was mainly why i was asking both are pretty good young lists
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on November 17, 2014, 08:13:12 PM
Quote from: Vinny on November 17, 2014, 08:11:13 PM
I think Rio are a major threat too. They are the 4th best team IMO after Dublin, Mexico and PNL.

Def: A. Walker, B. Houli, A. Mackie, B. Waters
Mid: G. Ablett, M. Murphy, D. Zaharakis, S. Hill
Ruck: S. Jacobs
Fwd: T. Walker, J. Riewoldt, M. Wright, P. Chapman
Interchange: B. Vince, K. Cornes

Pretty good depth too. Levis has done well.

wow that's pretty impressive, any team with Ablett is a threat but they are decent all round. A lot will depend if that backline can remain fit.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on November 17, 2014, 08:16:43 PM
Levis has done a very good job, bit of a dark horse!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on November 17, 2014, 08:16:59 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 17, 2014, 08:13:12 PM
Quote from: Vinny on November 17, 2014, 08:11:13 PM
I think Rio are a major threat too. They are the 4th best team IMO after Dublin, Mexico and PNL.

Def: A. Walker, B. Houli, A. Mackie, B. Waters
Mid: G. Ablett, M. Murphy, D. Zaharakis, S. Hill
Ruck: S. Jacobs
Fwd: T. Walker, J. Riewoldt, M. Wright, P. Chapman
Interchange: B. Vince, K. Cornes

Pretty good depth too. Levis has done well.

wow that's pretty impressive, any team with Ablett is a threat but they are decent all round. A lot will depend if that backline can remain fit.
Yep, they got a solid 85 average Harwood to cover in defence. As well as Elliot Yeo. Then up forward Lewy Taylor, David Hale and Mitch Clark.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on November 17, 2014, 08:33:45 PM
Agreed, both of the new teams (assuming meow drafts as well as we expect him to) have done quite well for themselves I reckon
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 17, 2014, 08:55:58 PM
Def not getting ahead of myself or setting up unrealistic expectations, but I think Dublin and Mexico are the teams to beat, with PNL 3rd in line, but I think we can push for 4th if things go our way

B: Heath Shaw, Josh Gibson, Paul Duffield, Jed Adcock
C: Steve Johnson, Tom Liberatore, Mitch Duncan, Jack Macrae
R: Mike Pyke
F: Travis Cloke, Harley Bennell, Kurt Tippett, Josh J Kennedy
U: Leigh Montagna, Sam Fisher
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on November 17, 2014, 09:08:17 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 17, 2014, 08:13:12 PM
Quote from: Vinny on November 17, 2014, 08:11:13 PM
I think Rio are a major threat too. They are the 4th best team IMO after Dublin, Mexico and PNL.

Def: A. Walker, B. Houli, A. Mackie, B. Waters
Mid: G. Ablett, M. Murphy, D. Zaharakis, S. Hill
Ruck: S. Jacobs
Fwd: T. Walker, J. Riewoldt, M. Wright, P. Chapman
Interchange: B. Vince, K. Cornes

Pretty good depth too. Levis has done well.

wow that's pretty impressive, any team with Ablett is a threat but they are decent all round. A lot will depend if that backline can remain fit.
Yep, you basically summed it up. Any team with Ablett is dangerous.
A few older guys that I'm unsure about, like Cornes, Chappy and Waters, but solid team overall.

I think NY will be up there too.

As Holz said, I expect it to be close next season. Dublin deserve to be favourites, but there's a few contenders.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on November 17, 2014, 09:22:36 PM
Dildos with the late charge to take out the flag. Especially with our permanent captain Matt Crouch. Lock it in.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on November 17, 2014, 09:48:06 PM
Thunder fo' top 8!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on November 17, 2014, 10:04:02 PM
Toronto for a fourth straight season of making the bottom half of the 8 and not doing any damage.

Here's to mediocrity!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 17, 2014, 10:17:35 PM
If the pattern holds true, which it will because my supreme confidence in these types of thing always works out... we'll finish top 8 in 2015. We'll probably somehow go one better than in 2013 and somehow make the prelim only to be ridiculously uncompetitive.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on November 17, 2014, 10:29:26 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 17, 2014, 10:17:35 PM
If the pattern holds true, which it will because my supreme confidence in these types of thing always works out... we'll finish top 8 in 2015. We'll probably somehow go one better than in 2013 and somehow make the prelim only to be ridiculously uncompetitive.  :P
We'll get ANAL though - Awesome Nicknames Advantage, Losers! (See here (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,44838.msg1495539.html#msg1495539))
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 18, 2014, 09:06:33 AM
Quote from: GoLions on November 17, 2014, 10:29:26 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 17, 2014, 10:17:35 PM
If the pattern holds true, which it will because my supreme confidence in these types of thing always works out... we'll finish top 8 in 2015. We'll probably somehow go one better than in 2013 and somehow make the prelim only to be ridiculously uncompetitive.  :P
We'll get ANAL though - Awesome Nicknames Advantage, Losers! (See here (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,44838.msg1495539.html#msg1495539))
Hehe.  8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on November 18, 2014, 10:30:03 AM
Been 16th, 4th and then 10th... not a clue where this pattern is going  :-\
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on November 18, 2014, 11:07:58 AM
Rule out Cape Town and their ultra consistent captain in JPK at your peril... 8)

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on November 18, 2014, 11:11:04 AM
DEF: Zac Dawson (C)
MID:
RUCK:
FWD:

#Premiers
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on November 18, 2014, 11:13:17 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 18, 2014, 10:30:03 AM
Been 16th, 4th and then 10th... not a clue where this pattern is going  :-\

Much more consistent in the European Premiership, where you've come (out of 5), 5th, 5th and 5th :P

Loved in 2013 = 5th in Europe, 4th in the World!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on November 18, 2014, 11:18:04 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on November 18, 2014, 11:13:17 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 18, 2014, 10:30:03 AM
Been 16th, 4th and then 10th... not a clue where this pattern is going  :-\

Much more consistent in the European Premiership, where you've come (out of 5), 5th, 5th and 5th :P

Loved in 2013 = 5th in Europe, 4th in the World!

And the top 3 didn't have any europe teams :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on November 18, 2014, 11:50:57 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 18, 2014, 11:18:04 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on November 18, 2014, 11:13:17 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 18, 2014, 10:30:03 AM
Been 16th, 4th and then 10th... not a clue where this pattern is going  :-\

Much more consistent in the European Premiership, where you've come (out of 5), 5th, 5th and 5th :P

Loved in 2013 = 5th in Europe, 4th in the World!

And the top 3 didn't have any europe teams :P

its Europe time now. Europe the reigning premiers.

Hoping for a Dublin v PNL final
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on November 18, 2014, 12:04:03 PM

We've had 3 different winners of the European Premiership - Moscow, London and PNL.

Is the European flag a Dublin priority this year Holz?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 18, 2014, 12:12:02 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 18, 2014, 10:30:03 AM
Been 16th, 4th and then 10th... not a clue where this pattern is going  :-\
I think we've been like 13th, 6th and 9th. Might have to double-check that.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on November 18, 2014, 12:26:30 PM
I honestly think the Islanders are a great chance to finally make the 8.

Jeremy Howe, Michael Hurley, Curtly Hampton, Lee Spurr
Michael Barlow, Jack Redden, Sam Gibson, Tom Mitchell
Matt Leuenberger
Devon Smith, Jarryd Blair, Marcus Bontempelli, Ben Howlett
Cam Guthrie, Jarrod Witts
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on November 18, 2014, 12:35:24 PM
Quote from: Jayman on November 18, 2014, 12:26:30 PM
I honestly think the Islanders are a great chance to finally make the 8.

Jeremy Howe, Michael Hurley, Curtly Hampton, Lee Spurr
Michael Barlow, Jack Redden, Sam Gibson, Tom Mitchell
Matt Leuenberger
Devon Smith, Jarryd Blair, Marcus Bontempelli, Ben Howlett
Cam Guthrie, Jarrod Witts

A lot of things would have to go right..... well, basically everything. Good talent, but they'd all need to take it to the next level, and hope Leuey stands up
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on November 18, 2014, 01:02:15 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 18, 2014, 12:12:02 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 18, 2014, 10:30:03 AM
Been 16th, 4th and then 10th... not a clue where this pattern is going  :-\
I think we've been like 13th, 6th and 9th. Might have to double-check that.

Cape Town have finished 2nd, 7th and 6th.

Yet to drop out of the finals and we plan to continue that record this year.

The team at the moment is currently looking like this:

Def: Shaun Higgins, Shane Savage, Nick Haynes, Cam O'Shea
Mid: Josh P. Kennedy, Trent Cotchin, Scott Selwood, Dom Tyson
Ruc: Stefan Martin
Fwd: Tom Hawkins, Jeremy Cameron, Andrejs Everitt, Stewart Crameri
Uti: Adam Cooney, Craig Bird

Eme: James Gwilt/Jasper Pittard, Ed Curnow/George Horlin Smith, Tom Hickey/Mark Blicavs, Lachie Hunter/Sam Reid

Going to be very hard to pick those last couple of def/uti/fwd positions each week as we have much better depth I think.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on November 18, 2014, 02:04:28 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 18, 2014, 01:02:15 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 18, 2014, 12:12:02 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 18, 2014, 10:30:03 AM
Been 16th, 4th and then 10th... not a clue where this pattern is going  :-\
I think we've been like 13th, 6th and 9th. Might have to double-check that.

Cape Town have finished 2nd, 7th and 6th.

Yet to drop out of the finals and we plan to continue that record this year.

The team at the moment is currently looking like this:

Def: Shaun Higgins, Shane Savage, Nick Haynes, Cam O'Shea
Mid: Josh P. Kennedy, Trent Cotchin, Scott Selwood, Dom Tyson
Ruc: Stefan Martin
Fwd: Tom Hawkins, Jeremy Cameron, Andrejs Everitt, Stewart Crameri
Uti: Adam Cooney, Craig Bird

Eme: James Gwilt/Jasper Pittard, Ed Curnow/George Horlin Smith, Tom Hickey/Mark Blicavs, Lachie Hunter/Sam Reid

Going to be very hard to pick those last couple of def/uti/fwd positions each week as we have much better depth I think.
Jeez going to have a busy season playing for both Cape Town and Toronto! :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: upthemaidens on November 18, 2014, 02:11:36 PM
Quote from: Jayman on November 18, 2014, 12:26:30 PM
I honestly think the Islanders are a great chance to finally make the 8.

Jeremy Howe, Michael Hurley, Curtly Hampton, Lee Spurr
Michael Barlow, Jack Redden, Sam Gibson, Tom Mitchell
Matt Leuenberger
Devon Smith, Jarryd Blair, Marcus Bontempelli, Ben Howlett
Cam Guthrie, Jarrod Witts
Not forgetting-  Jack Martin, Matt Thomas, Adam Goodes, Matt De Boer, Brodie Martin, Rhys Stanley   :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on November 18, 2014, 03:07:52 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on November 18, 2014, 12:04:03 PM

We've had 3 different winners of the European Premiership - Moscow, London and PNL.

Is the European flag a Dublin priority this year Holz?

I would like to win, but really as long as a European team takes out the flag I'm fine.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on November 18, 2014, 03:52:45 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 18, 2014, 10:30:03 AM
Been 16th, 4th and then 10th... not a clue where this pattern is going  :-\
Crazy pattern, Purp! Fourth in 2013 was a dream run.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on November 18, 2014, 03:53:55 PM
18th 9th 1st,

nothing but another premiership is a failure from here.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on November 18, 2014, 04:14:29 PM
1st, 2nd, 3rd

Looks like I'll be playing finals football for another five years  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on November 18, 2014, 04:18:18 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on November 18, 2014, 04:14:29 PM
1st, 2nd, 3rd

Looks like I'll be playing finals football for another five years  :P
Top Eight all three seasons, I can see us making a serious play for the Cup over the next couple of seasons.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on November 18, 2014, 04:26:04 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on November 18, 2014, 04:14:29 PM
1st, 2nd, 3rd

Looks like I'll be playing finals football for another five years  :P

declining though. Last year you were 2nd as you were runnerup?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on November 18, 2014, 04:28:07 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 18, 2014, 04:26:04 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on November 18, 2014, 04:14:29 PM
1st, 2nd, 3rd

Looks like I'll be playing finals football for another five years  :P

declining though. Last year you were 2nd as you were runnerup?
Exactly, but if that trend continues we'll continue to play finals for a while  :P

Yep, isn't that what I put?
Premiers in first year.
Runners up in second year.
Loser in prelim final (but ahead of Dildos) in third year.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on November 18, 2014, 04:35:28 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on November 18, 2014, 04:28:07 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 18, 2014, 04:26:04 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on November 18, 2014, 04:14:29 PM
1st, 2nd, 3rd

Looks like I'll be playing finals football for another five years  :P

declining though. Last year you were 2nd as you were runnerup?
Exactly, but if that trend continues we'll continue to play finals for a while  :P

Yep, isn't that what I put?
Premiers in first year.
Runners up in second year.
Loser in prelim final (but ahead of Dildos) in third year.

ahh I thought we played in the final I forgot it was Pumas and we matched up in the prelims.

so 4th this year? ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on November 18, 2014, 05:28:46 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 18, 2014, 04:35:28 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on November 18, 2014, 04:28:07 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 18, 2014, 04:26:04 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on November 18, 2014, 04:14:29 PM
1st, 2nd, 3rd

Looks like I'll be playing finals football for another five years  :P

declining though. Last year you were 2nd as you were runnerup?
Exactly, but if that trend continues we'll continue to play finals for a while  :P

Yep, isn't that what I put?
Premiers in first year.
Runners up in second year.
Loser in prelim final (but ahead of Dildos) in third year.

ahh I thought we played in the final I forgot it was Pumas and we matched up in the prelims.

so 4th this year? ;)
Haha, nah I think I'll wreck it next year as I'll finish 1st ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on November 18, 2014, 05:31:20 PM

Does anyone want to actually finish first after home and away?

Minor Premiers are yet to win a Premiership
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on November 18, 2014, 05:32:08 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on November 18, 2014, 05:31:20 PM

Does anyone want to actually finish first after home and away?

Minor Premiers are yet to win a Premiership

I do, happy to break the trend and take out both.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on November 18, 2014, 05:35:18 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on November 18, 2014, 02:04:28 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 18, 2014, 01:02:15 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 18, 2014, 12:12:02 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 18, 2014, 10:30:03 AM
Been 16th, 4th and then 10th... not a clue where this pattern is going  :-\
I think we've been like 13th, 6th and 9th. Might have to double-check that.

Cape Town have finished 2nd, 7th and 6th.

Yet to drop out of the finals and we plan to continue that record this year.

The team at the moment is currently looking like this:

Def: Shaun Higgins, Shane Savage, Nick Haynes, Cam O'Shea
Mid: Josh P. Kennedy, Trent Cotchin, Scott Selwood, Dom Tyson
Ruc: Stefan Martin
Fwd: Tom Hawkins, Jeremy Cameron, Andrejs Everitt, Stewart Crameri
Uti: Adam Cooney, Craig Bird

Eme: James Gwilt/Jasper Pittard, Ed Curnow/George Horlin Smith, Tom Hickey/Mark Blicavs, Lachie Hunter/Sam Reid

Going to be very hard to pick those last couple of def/uti/fwd positions each week as we have much better depth I think.
Jeez going to have a busy season playing for both Cape Town and Toronto! :P

Haha I meant Billy Longer lol. Got mixed up with another team I have
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 18, 2014, 05:42:09 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on November 18, 2014, 05:31:20 PM

Does anyone want to actually finish first after home and away?

Minor Premiers are yet to win a Premiership
We need to win something.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on November 18, 2014, 05:43:31 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on November 18, 2014, 05:31:20 PM

Does anyone want to actually finish first after home and away?

Minor Premiers are yet to win a Premiership
Thats been NDT's plan for 3 years.... still haven't won a premiership either
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on November 18, 2014, 06:36:04 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on November 18, 2014, 05:31:20 PM
Does anyone want to actually finish first after home and away?

It would be an improvement on our two 17th placings in the last two years :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on November 18, 2014, 10:35:56 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 18, 2014, 11:50:57 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 18, 2014, 11:18:04 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on November 18, 2014, 11:13:17 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 18, 2014, 10:30:03 AM
Been 16th, 4th and then 10th... not a clue where this pattern is going  :-\

Much more consistent in the European Premiership, where you've come (out of 5), 5th, 5th and 5th :P

Loved in 2013 = 5th in Europe, 4th in the World!

And the top 3 didn't have any europe teams :P

its Europe time now. Europe the reigning premiers.

Hoping for a Dublin v PNL final

X2
:D
lock it in
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: AaronKirk on November 19, 2014, 12:31:51 AM
Our aim at New York would be to make the finals.

Anything above that would be a success in our first season as co-coaches.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: LF on November 22, 2014, 09:22:33 PM
Myself and Grazz are running some awards in the front bar for the XV and Americas comps
Nominations are open for a week then polls will be added to them so we can all vote feel free to add a nomination to any of the awards :)

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,99509.0.html
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on November 25, 2014, 10:54:49 AM
Quote from: JROO8 on November 13, 2014, 01:01:50 PM
Going on last year's averages:

Dublin
Backs:  A.Rance (88), G.Birchall (88), R.Murphy (88), N. Dal Santo (105)
Mids: J.Selwood (120 x 2 = 240), R.Sloane (114), J.Watson (106), T.Boak (105)
Ruck: T.Goldstein (106)
Fwds: L.Franklin (108), D.Martin (99), J.Roughead (95), J.Gunston (90)
Interchange: D.Mundy (104), S.Thompson (99)

Total 1635

Mexico City
Defenders: Kade Simpson (95), Shannon Hurn (91), Michael Johnson (87), Matthew Broadbent (83)
Midfielders: Steele Sidebottom (113 x 2 = 226), Bryce Gibbs (106), Jordan Lewis (109), Brendon Goddard (107)
Rucks: Aaron Sandilands (108)
Forwards: Brett Deledio (102), Brent Harvey (107), Jimmy Bartel (102), Nick Riewoldt (91)
Interchange: Brad Ebert (94), Ivan Maric (99)

Total 1607

Not that far off Dublin, I've got much better depth, too. I reckon it will be even closer this year. Competition starting to become more even, too.
Updated.
Dublin
Backs:  A.Rance (88), G.Birchall (88), R.Murphy (88), N. Dal Santo (105)
Mids: J.Selwood (120 x 2 = 240), R.Sloane (114), J.Watson (106), T.Boak (105)
Ruck: T.Goldstein (106)
Fwds: L.Franklin (108), D.Martin (99), J.Roughead (95), J.Gunston (90)
Interchange: D.Mundy (104), S.Thompson (99)

Total 1635

Mexico City
Defenders: Kade Simpson (95), Shannon Hurn (91), Michael Johnson (87), Matthew Broadbent (83)
Midfielders: Tom Rockliff (132 x2 =264), Steele Sidebottom (113), Jordan Lewis (109), Brendon Goddard (107)
Rucks: Ivan Maric (99)
Forwards: Brett Deledio (102), Brent Harvey (107), Jimmy Bartel (102), Nick Riewoldt (91)
Interchange: Brad Ebert (94), Allen Christensen (90)

Total 1634

:o How close is that?!
Although, not expecting Rocky to average a 132.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 25, 2014, 11:01:28 AM
and who have you got to replace Harvey in the forward line he will be mid only
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on November 25, 2014, 11:06:04 AM
Nick Sal Santo if mid only drops my average a lot.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on November 25, 2014, 11:08:16 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 25, 2014, 11:01:28 AM
and who have you got to replace Harvey in the forward line he will be mid only
He's the only guy I'm worried about losing DPP. Still think he keeps it, but if he doesn't, I think Christo or BJ could get DPP, if not I've got Petrie.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on November 25, 2014, 11:20:25 AM
The total ages of those Mexico players would nearly be more that NDT's average score lol.

Think that says more about NDT though haha
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on November 25, 2014, 12:22:45 PM
Scott Thompson didn't average 99
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on November 25, 2014, 12:32:50 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 25, 2014, 12:22:45 PM
Scott Thompson didn't average 99
I assume Holz took out his injured game(s)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on November 25, 2014, 01:49:10 PM
Quote from: GoLions on November 25, 2014, 12:32:50 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 25, 2014, 12:22:45 PM
Scott Thompson didn't average 99
I assume Holz took out his injured game(s)

I didn't do the scores, jroo probably took out the game.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on November 25, 2014, 02:36:55 PM
Quote from: Winnie the Pooh on November 25, 2014, 01:49:10 PM
Quote from: GoLions on November 25, 2014, 12:32:50 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 25, 2014, 12:22:45 PM
Scott Thompson didn't average 99
I assume Holz took out his injured game(s)

I didn't do the scores, jroo probably took out the game.
Potato tomato
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 25, 2014, 02:50:07 PM
Quote from: GoLions on November 25, 2014, 02:36:55 PM
Quote from: Winnie the Pooh on November 25, 2014, 01:49:10 PM
Quote from: GoLions on November 25, 2014, 12:32:50 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 25, 2014, 12:22:45 PM
Scott Thompson didn't average 99
I assume Holz took out his injured game(s)

I didn't do the scores, jroo probably took out the game.
Potato tomato

tomato potato
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on November 25, 2014, 03:32:33 PM
Quote from: Winnie the Pooh on November 25, 2014, 01:49:10 PM
Quote from: GoLions on November 25, 2014, 12:32:50 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 25, 2014, 12:22:45 PM
Scott Thompson didn't average 99
I assume Holz took out his injured game(s)

I didn't do the scores, jroo probably took out the game.
Yes, that is correct.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on November 26, 2014, 04:26:12 PM
When are we starting the NAT draft here Os? On Friday?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 26, 2014, 04:36:28 PM
Quote from: Vinny on November 26, 2014, 04:26:12 PM
When are we starting the NAT draft here Os? On Friday?
Read the other thread.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on November 26, 2014, 04:42:58 PM
I can't find it. :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 26, 2014, 04:45:05 PM
Quote from: Vinny on November 26, 2014, 04:42:58 PM
I can't find it. :(
2015 List Lodgments thread.

Quote from: ossie85 on November 24, 2014, 02:35:04 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 24, 2014, 01:40:29 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on November 24, 2014, 01:24:16 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 24, 2014, 01:11:13 PM
When does our list need to be submitted by Ossie?

Still a while away sorry guys. Final AFL listings are around mid-December, so probably not long after that.

It's just easier when we know who is playing for sure
From what I can find, final AFL list lodgements are on December 5th, so roughly 10 days away. I assume that means we tentatively set the draft date for the 6th or 7th which is the first weekend of the month?


VERY tentative at this stage, possibly later (we'll have plenty of time in Jan and Feb)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on November 26, 2014, 04:46:47 PM
Haha cheers.

Damn I'm not going to be around often after the 7th until the start of Jan.  :(



Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 26, 2014, 04:48:56 PM
I'll draft for every team if I have to.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on November 26, 2014, 05:23:08 PM
I still don't see why we can't start straight away. Nobody is going to pass their first and 2nd round picks.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on November 26, 2014, 05:28:25 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 26, 2014, 05:23:08 PM
I still don't see why we can't start straight away. Nobody is going to pass their first and 2nd round picks.

agree with this, starting a little earlier means we have even longer to draft which will really help with people going away and being inactive.

Also I have no early picks so it will be a long long wait till my pick, so wouldn't mind it starting earlier ;P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: AaronKirk on November 26, 2014, 06:14:29 PM
Quote from: Winnie the Pooh on November 26, 2014, 05:28:25 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 26, 2014, 05:23:08 PM
I still don't see why we can't start straight away. Nobody is going to pass their first and 2nd round picks.

agree with this, starting a little earlier means we have even longer to draft which will really help with people going away and being inactive.

Also I have no early picks so it will be a long long wait till my pick, so wouldn't mind it starting earlier ;P

Agreed.

Earlier the better.

I'll be away from home and not on here too much from December 18 to January 1
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 26, 2014, 06:17:01 PM
I think the idea of at least getting it started and potentially getting through as much as we can is best. If the last half of the draft drags on into late December/January, so be it, but I think it's better than starting it in the new year.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on November 27, 2014, 02:45:21 PM
So what you reckon Ossie, get the draft rolling in the next couple days?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on November 27, 2014, 03:17:14 PM
Quote from: Vinny on November 27, 2014, 02:45:21 PM
So what you reckon Ossie, get the draft rolling in the next couple days?

Nope, still a couple of weeks at least I think. AFL lists yet to be finalised, and I'm not ready to be honest



Am thinking about trying to create a Draft Night though - I know its unlikely, but if we could get all 18 clubs to commit to being around at a certain night, I think it could be a great time.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on November 27, 2014, 03:27:06 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on November 27, 2014, 03:17:14 PM
Quote from: Vinny on November 27, 2014, 02:45:21 PM
So what you reckon Ossie, get the draft rolling in the next couple days?

Nope, still a couple of weeks at least I think. AFL lists yet to be finalised, and I'm not ready to be honest



Am thinking about trying to create a Draft Night though - I know its unlikely, but if we could get all 18 clubs to commit to being around at a certain night, I think it could be a great time.

Is there any reason why we can't get the first 2 rounds done? Or at least the first 30 picks. I know what you're saying about AFL list not being finalised, but that won't make any difference early. I've got McKernan on my list and he might not get picked up. That's not going to make any difference to the first 2 rounds though. It's not like I am going to pass pick 25 then want it back if McKernan doesn't get picked up and I get a 6th round pick instead.

I'm not being a whinger, just wondering why it's not possible. You wouldn't have to do anything extra in the meantime.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 27, 2014, 03:30:05 PM
I agree with meow. At the very least get the first two rounds done, there shouldn't be any non-National draftees picked in like the first 40ish picks given how good the draft is, and as meow said, there's no extra work involved.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on November 27, 2014, 03:32:41 PM

Gotta be honest, the main reason there's a delay is because I haven't had the time to process all the list changes yet and work out who's available


Would people be keen for a big draft night though?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on November 27, 2014, 03:32:54 PM
I just figured that as soon as Decemeber starts, many are going to start going on holiday/spend time with ther families, making it even more difficult. I'm not going to be able to make any sort of draft night after Decemeber 7th. Definitely won't be around during Christmas/New Years either.

As good as it sounds, I reckon there is 0 chance of getting all 18 clubs present even for a night during that time of year.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on November 27, 2014, 03:34:45 PM
Its worked every other year.

And we cant just do the first 30 picks before final delistings are in, Paparone went at 33 last year after getting the axe. so if any decent players get delisted someone in the top 30 might want to pick them up.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 27, 2014, 03:35:01 PM
Quote from: Vinny on November 27, 2014, 03:32:54 PM
I just figured that as soon as Decemeber starts, many are going to start going on holiday/spend time with ther families, making it even more difficult. I'm not going to be able to make any sort of draft night after Decemeber 7th. Definitely won't be around during Christmas/New Years either.

As good as it sounds, I reckon there is 0 chance of getting all 18 clubs present even for a night during that time of year.
You've got Nails as a co-coach and nrich is still assistant right? Are you guys not in contact at all?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on November 27, 2014, 03:42:57 PM

Understand people want this going straight away.... but we will have months of basically no activity in Jan-Feb-March anyway, so think we can be a bit patient.

Side note - anyone know a good sight that has the most uptodate lists for AFL teams? The AFL website is a minefield of crap.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Master Q on November 27, 2014, 03:43:21 PM
Why split the draft in half? Do it all at once like every other draft in every other comp.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on November 27, 2014, 03:44:29 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on November 27, 2014, 03:32:41 PM

Gotta be honest, the main reason there's a delay is because I haven't had the time to process all the list changes yet and work out who's available


Would people be keen for a big draft night though?

very keen for a big draft night, unfortunately I think you will get 14 teams turn up and get held up with the one team.

just a plug for the Euro, if you want to see drafting we start 11:59PM AEST time tonight.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on November 27, 2014, 03:45:26 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on November 27, 2014, 03:42:57 PM

Understand people want this going straight away.... but we will have months of basically no activity in Jan-Feb-March anyway, so think we can be a bit patient.

Side note - anyone know a good sight that has the most uptodate lists for AFL teams? The AFL website is a minefield of crap.
Footy wire is up to date but might be a bit difficult to extract the data.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 27, 2014, 03:47:23 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on November 27, 2014, 03:42:57 PM

Understand people want this going straight away.... but we will have months of basically no activity in Jan-Feb-March anyway, so think we can be a bit patient.

Side note - anyone know a good sight that has the most uptodate lists for AFL teams? The AFL website is a minefield of crap.
We're only asking to start the draft and hopefully get the first two rounds done though Oss, having it drag out into Jan/Feb isn't a problem.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on November 27, 2014, 03:51:57 PM
Quote from: Vinny on November 27, 2014, 03:45:26 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on November 27, 2014, 03:42:57 PM

Understand people want this going straight away.... but we will have months of basically no activity in Jan-Feb-March anyway, so think we can be a bit patient.

Side note - anyone know a good sight that has the most uptodate lists for AFL teams? The AFL website is a minefield of crap.
Footy wire is up to date but might be a bit difficult to extract the data.

The player lists are correct but the rookie classification is still based on 2014 lists. Biggs, Jong and Redpath are still classed as rookies on there.

The individual club pages on wikipedia are the most accurate at this point.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: LF on November 28, 2014, 03:33:54 PM
All the polls are now open for voting in the XV comp Elxam Awards
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on November 28, 2014, 03:46:18 PM

My votes are in!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on December 02, 2014, 04:36:49 PM
Just a note on former players getting drafted again...

... Last year Cameron Wood was picked by Carlton after a year off from the AFL. The Pacific Islanders were able to bid for him in a father-son like capacity to take him.

The same thing will again happen this year, and it will happen quickly, so be prepared!

I think the most likely player is Ahmed Saad. The Islanders were forced to delist him at the end of 2013, and they'll have first crack at drafting him back again this year. If Saad is picked, other clubs will have a chance to bid for him.


The Islanders have picks:
9
34
37
Round 6 Pick (if they delist somebody else)
Round 7 pick (if they delist 2 others)
etc...
Rookie 1
Rookie 19
Rookie 37
Rookie 55


So if Seoul said it wanted to take Saad at pick 55, any team with a pick higher than 55 could outbid Seoul, but Pacific would only need to use its Round 6 pick to select him (or rookie pick if they didn't have a round 6 pick). If London bidded pick 35, the Islanders would need to use Pick 37. If Dublin bidded pick 18 in the rookie draft, the Islanders would need to use pick 19 in the rookie to grab him.

.... I hope that makes sense.

Stay tuned, because only a couple of days at most will be available for bidding!

Same applies for any other player like Saad.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on December 02, 2014, 04:39:53 PM
Sounds like Nathan Krakouer could be another one
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on December 02, 2014, 04:44:20 PM
Will Nathan Krouker qualify as well if Port pick him up.  Not sure who would have had him on their list,
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on December 02, 2014, 04:46:28 PM
What if, an ex-Brewer becomes available, and X bids a second round draft pick, and I only have a 6th round draft pick and wanted him back?

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on December 02, 2014, 04:49:45 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on December 02, 2014, 04:46:28 PM
What if, an ex-Brewer becomes available, and X bids a second round draft pick, and I only have a 6th round draft pick and wanted him back?

You'll be laughing all the way to the bank

Quote from: Ricochet on December 02, 2014, 04:39:53 PM
Sounds like Nathan Krakouer could be another one

Thought that also, but he was never on a WXV list!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on December 02, 2014, 04:50:45 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on December 02, 2014, 04:49:45 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 02, 2014, 04:39:53 PM
Sounds like Nathan Krakouer could be another one

Thought that also, but he was never on a WXV list!
Probably for good reason too lol
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on December 02, 2014, 04:52:20 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on December 02, 2014, 04:46:28 PM
What if, an ex-Brewer becomes available, and X bids a second round draft pick, and I only have a 6th round draft pick and wanted him back?
Would work same way, first available pick must be used in that case by you ;).
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on December 02, 2014, 05:32:46 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on December 02, 2014, 04:52:20 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on December 02, 2014, 04:46:28 PM
What if, an ex-Brewer becomes available, and X bids a second round draft pick, and I only have a 6th round draft pick and wanted him back?
Would work same way, first available pick must be used in that case by you ;).

Ah very good.

Come back Daniel Jackson  :'( next year maybe!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on December 03, 2014, 02:23:19 PM

So Joe Baker-Thomas was the only category B rookie not selected in the rookie draft.... anyone know his story?


Also that's the end of the road for....

Beijing Thunder   Petrenko   Jared
Beijing Thunder   Battersby   James
PNL Reindeers   Hardingham   Kyle
Seoul Magpies   Anthony   Liam
Toronto Wolves   Hayes   Nick

Who will be forced delisted from Worlds, sorry guys
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 03, 2014, 02:26:46 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on December 03, 2014, 02:23:19 PM


Also that's the end of the road for....

Seoul Magpies   Anthony   Liam

(http://cdn.meme.am/images/300x/5251063.jpg)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on December 03, 2014, 03:02:27 PM

Ahmed Saad bidding has begun! Go to the International Draft Thread
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on December 03, 2014, 03:28:42 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on December 03, 2014, 02:23:19 PM
PNL Reindeers   Hardingham   Kyle
Worst. Pickup. Ever. >:(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on December 03, 2014, 04:00:02 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on December 03, 2014, 02:23:19 PM

So Joe Baker-Thomas was the only category B rookie not selected in the rookie draft.... anyone know his story?


Also that's the end of the road for....

Beijing Thunder   Petrenko   Jared
Beijing Thunder   Battersby   James
PNL Reindeers   Hardingham   Kyle
Seoul Magpies   Anthony   Liam
Toronto Wolves   Hayes   Nick

Who will be forced delisted from Worlds, sorry guys
He is on the Saints List as an International Rookie from NZ.  Is into second year so possibly not picked up in Worlds last year.

http://www.saints.com.au/news/2014-06-03/joe-bakerthomas-halfyear-update
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on December 03, 2014, 04:07:16 PM

Cheers Ringo, he's up for grabs this time anyway
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on December 03, 2014, 04:37:56 PM

Now it is official, these are the players we said goodbye to in 2014!

Name, WXV Games, WXV Average, Teams (had to actually play a game)
Cox   Dean   51   102.14   New York/Buenos Aires
Hayes   Lenny   44   103.16   Wellington
Scotland   Heath   39   90.62   Buenos Aires
McLean   Brock   39   89.95   Mexico City/Toronto
O'Keefe   Ryan   37   105.62   Cape Town
Jackson   Daniel   37   87.49   Berlin
Brown   Jonathan   37   67.92   Moscow/London
Giansiracusa   Daniel   37   66.08   New Delhi
Jones   Clinton   31   79.26   Toronto
Sewell   Brad   28   91.64   Cairo/Buenos Aires
Moloney   Brent   28   79.50   Berlin/Mexico City
Lynch   Quentin   23   71.87   Pacific/London
Ball   Luke   21   82.19   PNL
Cassisi   Domenic   21   74.95   New Delhi
Glass   Darren   20   61.15   Beijing
Jetta   Leroy   19   70.53   Wellington
Hunt   Josh   19   67.11   Beijing
Clarke   Martin   18   70.94   Moscow
Rutten   Ben   18   58.22   Seoul/New Delhi
Petrenko   Jared   17   67.94   Buenos Aires/Cairo/Beijing
Porplyzia   Jason   15   60.20   Sao Paulo
Byrnes   Shannon   15   54.00   Wellington
Tapscott   Luke   15   46.47   Beijing/Moscow
Hudson   Ben   14   89.93   Toronto/London
Maxwell   Nick   14   73.29   Seoul
Anthony   Liam   13   82.23   Seoul
Nicholson   Daniel   13   62.23   Buenos Aires/Toronto
McGrath   Ashley   13   59.15   Toronto
Edwards   Aaron   11   67.27   Toronto
King   Jake   11   56.64   Beijing/Berlin
Bradley   Kepler   10   67.10   Buenos Aires
Milera   Terry   10   61.10   Mexico City/New Delhi/Pacific
Gumbleton   Scott   10   58.50   Beijing
Hardingham   Kyle   10   54.90   Mexico City/Moscow
Smith   Ashley   9   66.44   Tokyo
Stephenson   Orren   9   62.78   New Delhi/Cairo
Roberts-Thomson   Lewis   9   49.22   Pacific/New Delhi
Polkinghorne   James   8   65.63   Cairo
Maister   Beau   8   39.25   PNL
Murphy   Thomas   6   73.33   Dublin
Renouf   Brent   6   71.67   Seoul
Howard   Christian   6   42.67   PNL
Heath   Campbell   5   67.20   Cape Town
Hunt   Karmichael   5   58.20   Cape Town
Bock   Nathan   5   49.80   New Delhi/Cape Town
Martin   Kyle   4   69.25   Sao Paulo
Young   Thomas   4   64.75   London
McInnes   Andrew   4   61.25   PNL
Banfield   Todd   4   57.75   Pacific
Stringer   Jesse   4   52.00   Buenos Aires
Johnston   Lewis   3   65.67   Cairo
Burbury   George   3   56.00   Moscow
Dennis-Lane   Trent   3   54.00   PNL
Dell'Olio   Cory   3   45.67   New Delhi
Sheringham   Jackson   3   37.67   Tokyo
Gilham   Stephen   2   77.00   London
Evans   Michael   2   67.00   Cairo
Thompson   Luke   2   51.00   Berlin
Stevenson   Lewis   2   45.50   Cairo
Walsh   Tommy   2   44.00   Dublin
Dunell   Sam   2   34.50   New Delhi
Allen   Jackson   1   86.00   Moscow
Lisle   Jordan   1   77.00   Pacific
Wilson   Blayne   1   70.00   Cape Town
Cachia   Jaryd   1   64.00   London
Bootsma   Joshua   1   63.00   Dublin
Clisby   Mitchell   1   60.00   Berlin
Brennan   Jacob   1   38.00   Berlin
Mooney   Caolan   1   36.00   Moscow
Georgiou   Alexis   1   23.00   Berlin
Williams   Tom   0   NA   
Warnock   Matthew   0   NA   
Austin   Mark   0   NA   
Brown   Mitchell W   0   NA   
Ross   Ben   0   NA   
Hutchins   Jack   0   NA   
Van Unen   Dylan   0   NA   
Barry   Dominic   0   NA   
Simpson   Josh   0   NA   
O'Hanlon   Brett   0   NA   
Wanganeen   Derick   0   NA   
Battersby   James   0   NA   
Schroder   Jordan   0   NA   
Yagmoor   Peter   0   NA   
Garlett   Dayle   0   NA   
Helbig   Bradley   0   NA   
Temay   Tom   0   NA   
Lockyer   Jordan   0   NA   
Wilkins   Mitchell   0   NA   
Wearden   Patrick   0   NA   
Williams   Cadeyn   0   NA   
Darrou   Ben   0   NA   
Thurlow   Fraser   0   NA   
Gregory   Sean   0   NA   
Carter   Adam   0   NA   
Hitchcock   Cameron   0   NA   
Strauss   James   0   NA   
McGennis   Tim   0   NA   
Menegola   Sam   0   NA   
Osborne   Leigh   0   NA   
Rayner   Johnny   0   NA   
Mitchell   Patrick   0   NA   
Greenwood   Alex   0   NA   
Conway   Isaac   0   NA   
Wood   Michael   0   NA   
Michael   Sam   0   NA   
Reynolds   Luke   0   NA   
Graham   Angus   0   NA   
Curran   Tom   0   NA   
Hine   Taylor   0   NA   
Simon   Gideon   0   NA   
Taylor   Jeremy   0   NA   
Hayes   Nick   0   NA   
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: upthemaidens on December 03, 2014, 05:27:10 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on December 03, 2014, 03:28:42 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on December 03, 2014, 02:23:19 PM
PNL Reindeers   Hardingham   Kyle
Worst. Pickup. Ever. >:(
Oh well it only cost ya #49   ;D

  Mind you, it turned into something pretty sweet.  #49+Frost for #27    #27+Elliott for Devon Smith   :)

 
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on December 03, 2014, 06:05:26 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on December 03, 2014, 05:27:10 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on December 03, 2014, 03:28:42 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on December 03, 2014, 02:23:19 PM
PNL Reindeers   Hardingham   Kyle
Worst. Pickup. Ever. >:(
Oh well it only cost ya #49   ;D
  Mind you, it turned into something pretty sweet.  #49+Frost for #27    #27+Elliott for Devon Smith   :)
aren't you guys lucky? :'(. I just use Tom Campbell in place of hardy in that trade to make me feel better :(.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on December 04, 2014, 03:24:06 PM

Question guys:

Should players who have been delisted by AFL and WXV Clubs, but were later drafted as an AFL Rookie, be available in the International Draft, or the Pre-season/Rookie drafts?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on December 04, 2014, 03:29:58 PM
I'm not fussed.  8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on December 04, 2014, 03:31:45 PM
i'd say pre season or rookie draft treat them as players that have not been on a wxv list
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on December 04, 2014, 03:35:00 PM
I sort of think, they've been delisted by a WXV club, and are still on an AFL list. So I'd probably have them in the international draft
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 04, 2014, 03:37:03 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on December 04, 2014, 03:24:06 PM

Question guys:

Should players who have been delisted by AFL and WXV Clubs, but were later drafted as an AFL Rookie, be available in the International Draft, or the Pre-season/Rookie drafts?

I would say rookie as that's how the afl does it.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on December 04, 2014, 03:37:43 PM
I don't really mind, but kinda thinking that it would be better off having them in the rookie draft so it doesn't "force" people to have an AFL rookie on their WXV senior list... But it probably doesn't really matter either way :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on December 04, 2014, 03:50:19 PM
I reckon international draft. All delisted players should go in that draft IMO.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on December 04, 2014, 03:54:36 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on December 04, 2014, 03:50:19 PM
I reckon international draft. All delisted players should go in that draft IMO.

Then what's the point of having two more drafts?

It's just like one long draft.

IMO we should scrap the pre-season draft then have just and Int Draft and a Rookie draft (for AFL rookie listed players and all other leftover players).
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on December 04, 2014, 04:00:52 PM

I like the preseason draft, I think it adds an extra level tactics. Disagree that it is one long draft with the 3 of them, in fact it would be one long draft with just 2 IMO
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on December 04, 2014, 04:01:08 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on December 04, 2014, 03:54:36 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on December 04, 2014, 03:50:19 PM
I reckon international draft. All delisted players should go in that draft IMO.

Then what's the point of having two more drafts?

It's just like one long draft.

IMO we should scrap the pre-season draft then have just and Int Draft and a Rookie draft (for AFL rookie listed players and all other leftover players).
Well without the delisted players and just players selected in the National Draft we won't have enough players to fill everybody' senior list, so I think that all delisted players should be in that draft not just some.

But yeah, that's actually not a bad idea.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on December 04, 2014, 04:45:30 PM
I like the PSD :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on December 04, 2014, 06:19:23 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on December 04, 2014, 03:54:36 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on December 04, 2014, 03:50:19 PM
I reckon international draft. All delisted players should go in that draft IMO.

Then what's the point of having two more drafts?

It's just like one long draft.

IMO we should scrap the pre-season draft then have just and Int Draft and a Rookie draft (for AFL rookie listed players and all other leftover players).

What if I wanted to have an AFL rookie on my WXV senior list? The only way that could work with 2 drafts is if all rookies are available in the Int draft (which I think should be the way to go).
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on December 05, 2014, 10:42:55 PM
I reckon we penalise Cape Town for holding up the start of the draft.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on December 05, 2014, 10:52:21 PM
I will be busy for a lot of the weekend but hopefully we'll be able to kick off the draft in the morning ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on December 05, 2014, 10:59:17 PM
Quote from: Toga on December 05, 2014, 10:52:21 PM
I will be busy for a lot of the weekend but hopefully we'll be able to kick off the draft in the morning ;)
That won't happen because those dirty South Africans can't get their shower together.

#banter
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on December 06, 2014, 01:37:37 AM
Penalise them premiership points next year for holding it up!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on December 06, 2014, 06:53:47 AM

Ok, the players delisted by both WXV and AFL clubs, but later picked up in the AFL Rookie draft, will go into the WXV preseason/rookie selections.


DRAFT IS ON FROM NOW

Go Beijing!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Boomz on December 10, 2014, 02:11:36 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on December 06, 2014, 06:53:47 AM

Ok, the players delisted by both WXV and AFL clubs, but later picked up in the AFL Rookie draft, will go into the WXV preseason/rookie selections.


DRAFT IS ON FROM NOW

Go Beijing!

Wouldn't Jordan Kelly fit this category? :-X
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on December 10, 2014, 02:24:47 PM
Well if that's the case I would have selected Redden (since we have Lobbe), which messes up later picks :-X.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on December 10, 2014, 02:51:44 PM
Quote from: Boomz on December 10, 2014, 02:11:36 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on December 06, 2014, 06:53:47 AM

Ok, the players delisted by both WXV and AFL clubs, but later picked up in the AFL Rookie draft, will go into the WXV preseason/rookie selections.


DRAFT IS ON FROM NOW

Go Beijing!

Wouldn't Jordan Kelly fit this category? :-X

Crap, think I've made a mistake there. Sorry guys, think what has happened is these were late delistments by WXV clubs, which overruled my Rookie list before. My excel mistake (couple of others out there also).

Unfortunately think we are too far in the draft process to correct now, and the list of available players was there for all to see.

Sorry again :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on December 10, 2014, 03:00:58 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on December 10, 2014, 02:51:44 PM
Quote from: Boomz on December 10, 2014, 02:11:36 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on December 06, 2014, 06:53:47 AM

Ok, the players delisted by both WXV and AFL clubs, but later picked up in the AFL Rookie draft, will go into the WXV preseason/rookie selections.


DRAFT IS ON FROM NOW

Go Beijing!

Wouldn't Jordan Kelly fit this category? :-X

Crap, think I've made a mistake there. Sorry guys, think what has happened is these were late delistments by WXV clubs, which overruled my Rookie list before. My excel mistake (couple of others out there also).

Unfortunately think we are too far in the draft process to correct now, and the list of available players was there for all to see.

Sorry again :(
buuut we were hoping to re-rookie him... He was on our rookie list for 2 years so had to delist
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Boomz on December 10, 2014, 03:26:29 PM
Eh sorry to highlight it haha but yeah too late anyway at least only a minor player... hopefully doesnt suddenly become a beast  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on December 12, 2014, 08:24:46 AM

Another random ossie85 stat:

Players who have been at 4 clubs in 4 years (noting we still have another trade period to come)

J Bennell (New York, Cape Town, Mexico City, Tokyo)
A Carrazzo (Tokyo, Cairo, Buenos Aires, Toronto)
T Chaplin (Buenos Aires, Cairo, Cape Town, Dublin)
M Clark (Rio de Janeiro, Berlin, Dublin, Beijing)
J Darling (New Delhi, Cape Town, Moscow, New York)
P Davis (Beijing, Pacific, PNL, Tokyo)
C Dawes (Beijing, PNL, Pacific, Seoul)
C Dixon (Berlin, Dublin, Moscow, Seoul)
Je Garlett (Christchurch, Berlin, Cape Town, London)
J Giles (London, Cairo, New York, Wellington)
S Grigg (Mexico City, Dublin, Cairo, Beijing)
D Hale (Rio de Janeiro, Buenos Aires, Cairo, Toronto)
S Hampson (Mexico City, New Delhi, Tokyo, Cairo)
B Jacobs (Rio de Janeiro, Sao Paulo, New Delhi, Buenos Aires)
JJ Kennedy (New York, Berlin, Seoul, Cairo)
S Kerridge (New Delhi, Cairo, Beijing, Moscow)
B Matera (Seoul, London, Berlin, Moscow)
T Rockliff (Mexico City, Dublin, Pacific, New Delhi)
S Savage (Cape Town, New Delhi, Pacific, New York)
C Shenton (Beijing, PNL, Berlin, Sao Paulo)
L Thomas (Buenos Aires, Pacific, Cairo, Cape Town)
N Wilson (Buenos Aires, Berlin, London, Moscow)
D Zorko (Christchurch, Berlin, Toronto, New Delhi)


* Noting Jamie Bennell and Nathan Wilson are yet to get on the park for any team yet
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on December 12, 2014, 08:43:32 AM
Awesome stat oz

Lol at Nathan Wilson haha
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on December 12, 2014, 10:02:58 AM

So, some confirmed changes....

Former Buenos Aires Superstar Dane Swan, will be looking to move into the forward line at the PNL Reindeers

Mexico City trio of Brendon Goddard, Brett Deledio and Allen Christensen ALL gain forward status - combined with Nick Riewoldt, Brent Harvey and Drew Petrie that's a scary forward line.

Toronto's Jack Ziebell and Cape Town's Adam Cooney also looking to shine in the forward line


Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 12, 2014, 10:04:03 AM
Give jroo the flag.

NDS better get dpp or this is a rip.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 12, 2014, 10:05:35 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on December 12, 2014, 10:02:58 AM

So, some confirmed changes....

Former Buenos Aires Superstar Dane Swan, will be looking to move into the forward line at the PNL Reindeers

Mexico City trio of Brendon Goddard, Brett Deledio and Allen Christensen ALL gain forward status - combined with Nick Riewoldt, Brent Harvey and Drew Petrie that's a scary forward line.

Toronto's Jack Ziebell and Cape Town's Adam Cooney also looking to shine in the forward line

Give jroo the flag.

NDS better get dpp or its a rip. Played a lot more back than swan and Goddard did forward.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on December 12, 2014, 10:16:09 AM
Will be interesting to see if the AF changes are the same as DT/SC
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on December 12, 2014, 11:01:33 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 12, 2014, 10:16:09 AM
Will be interesting to see if the AF changes are the same as DT/SC
flower didn't even think about this. They better be.

That fwd line is looking awesome!!!!!

My pick will be up soon, I've got a very sore head, let me have a look at my options.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on December 12, 2014, 11:15:35 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on December 12, 2014, 10:02:58 AM


Toronto's Jack Ziebell looking to shine in the forward line
Big relief!

Now just for Ryder to join the party as well
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on December 12, 2014, 11:16:11 AM
Quote from: JROO8 on December 12, 2014, 11:01:33 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 12, 2014, 10:16:09 AM
Will be interesting to see if the AF changes are the same as DT/SC
flower didn't even think about this. They better be.

That fwd line is looking awesome!!!!!

My pick will be up soon, I've got a very sore head, let me have a look at my options.
Yeh Rids mentioned that they are still deciding on some things so could be different, but not sure
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on December 12, 2014, 12:07:25 PM

yes... I'm assuming SC is the same!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 12, 2014, 12:27:27 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 12, 2014, 11:16:11 AM
Quote from: JROO8 on December 12, 2014, 11:01:33 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 12, 2014, 10:16:09 AM
Will be interesting to see if the AF changes are the same as DT/SC
flower didn't even think about this. They better be.

That fwd line is looking awesome!!!!!

My pick will be up soon, I've got a very sore head, let me have a look at my options.
Yeh Rids mentioned that they are still deciding on some things so could be different, but not sure

they better be different too many mids now have DPP.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on December 12, 2014, 12:44:08 PM
Petraca to have M/F status as well - Darcy Moore rumoured to have D/F from Draft picks  so if Petraaca  is less than $225k probably a lock to give DPP link.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on December 12, 2014, 01:07:40 PM
Was expecting Petracca to get M/F, will be a good addition to our forward line 8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on December 12, 2014, 02:01:52 PM
That Suns forward line :o :o :o.

Quote from: ossie85 on December 12, 2014, 10:02:58 AM
Former Buenos Aires Superstar Dane Swan, will be looking to move into the forward line at the PNL Reindeers
:D :D :D Works perfectly for us!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 12, 2014, 02:34:53 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on December 12, 2014, 02:01:52 PM
That Suns forward line :o :o :o.

Quote from: ossie85 on December 12, 2014, 10:02:58 AM
Former Buenos Aires Superstar Dane Swan, will be looking to move into the forward line at the PNL Reindeers
:D :D :D Works perfectly for us!

well Boomer SHOULD lose dpp but given who they just gave it to it probably wont happen.

Yeah that's why I wanted Swanny I had a feeling they would do something silly and give him dpp. I also chased Goddard for that reason.

slightly annoyed, I chased actual forwards in Roughead Gunston etc.. and than mids got handed forward status.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on December 12, 2014, 02:56:52 PM
Wait, why is Boomer supposed to lose DPP?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 12, 2014, 02:59:21 PM
Quote from: Nige on December 12, 2014, 02:56:52 PM
Wait, why is Boomer supposed to lose DPP?

because he plays in the midfield for 80% of the game.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on December 12, 2014, 08:39:31 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on December 12, 2014, 10:02:58 AM

So, some confirmed changes....

Former Buenos Aires Superstar Dane Swan, will be looking to move into the forward line at the PNL Reindeers

Mexico City trio of Brendon Goddard, Brett Deledio and Allen Christensen ALL gain forward status - combined with Nick Riewoldt, Brent Harvey and Drew Petrie that's a scary forward line.

Toronto's Jack Ziebell and Cape Town's Adam Cooney also looking to shine in the forward line

awesome news about Swan


told everyone Dlids would get fwd status when the trade was done but was told i was silly for even thinking it  ::)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on December 12, 2014, 08:52:28 PM
Quote from: The BeDazzler on December 12, 2014, 08:39:31 PM
told everyone Dlids would get fwd status when the trade was done but was told i was silly for even thinking it  ::)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on December 13, 2014, 02:48:04 PM
Nrich asked on Twitter if positions for AF will be the same for SC/DT. They confirmed it would be.  :)

Quote from: ossie85 on December 12, 2014, 10:02:58 AM

Mexico City trio of Brendon Goddard, Brett Deledio and Allen Christensen ALL gain forward status - combined with Nick Riewoldt, Brent Harvey and Drew Petrie that's a scary forward line.
Also, just realised you forgot Jimmy Bartel, Oz...

So fwds are:
Lids, BJ, Christo, Bartel, Boomer, Nroo, Petrie and arguably the best of them all, Liam McBean.

Looking scary.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on December 13, 2014, 02:53:20 PM
That's just hoarding.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on December 13, 2014, 02:56:47 PM
Quote from: Nige on December 13, 2014, 02:53:20 PM
That's just hoarding.  :P
You can have one if you like. :P

Seriously though, I was expecting Lids to get DPP and thought one of Christo or BJ may get DPP, but wasn't expecting them all. So I probably would look at trading some fwds.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on December 13, 2014, 02:58:57 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on December 13, 2014, 02:56:47 PM
Quote from: Nige on December 13, 2014, 02:53:20 PM
That's just hoarding.  :P
You can have one if you like. :P

Seriously though, I was expecting Lids to get DPP and thought one of Christo or BJ may get DPP, but wasn't expecting them all. So I probably would look at trading some fwds.
Siposs is all yours.  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on December 13, 2014, 03:05:09 PM
Thinking about allowing teams to trade next year's draft picks in the second trade period...

Just a thought
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on December 13, 2014, 03:08:49 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on December 13, 2014, 03:05:09 PM
Thinking about allowing teams to trade next year's draft picks in the second trade period...

Just a thought

approval would have to be pretty strict like if it's going to weaken a team to much don't approve
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on December 13, 2014, 03:16:17 PM
Quote from: Nige on December 13, 2014, 02:58:57 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on December 13, 2014, 02:56:47 PM
Quote from: Nige on December 13, 2014, 02:53:20 PM
That's just hoarding.  :P
You can have one if you like. :P

Seriously though, I was expecting Lids to get DPP and thought one of Christo or BJ may get DPP, but wasn't expecting them all. So I probably would look at trading some fwds.
Siposs is all yours.  ;)
Hmm, can I take Beams instead?

That's a really interesting idea Oz, I like it.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on December 13, 2014, 03:39:22 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on December 13, 2014, 03:16:17 PM
Hmm, can I take Beams instead?
Not a chance.  :P



Personally not a fan Oss.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jukes on December 13, 2014, 04:32:56 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on December 13, 2014, 03:05:09 PM
Thinking about allowing teams to trade next year's draft picks in the second trade period...

Just a thought

I'm a big fan of this, just like it's done in the NFL!

I'd be happy to trade 6-years worth of first rounders for a super premium :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on December 13, 2014, 05:46:38 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on December 13, 2014, 02:56:47 PM
Quote from: Nige on December 13, 2014, 02:53:20 PM
That's just hoarding.  :P
You can have one if you like. :P

Seriously though, I was expecting Lids to get DPP and thought one of Christo or BJ may get DPP, but wasn't expecting them all. So I probably would look at trading some fwds.

shifty shifty

remember you claiming he had no chance

ofc i knew then and still know now that was holding your cards close to your chest

well played sir ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on December 13, 2014, 05:52:52 PM
Quote from: The BeDazzler on December 13, 2014, 05:46:38 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on December 13, 2014, 02:56:47 PM
Quote from: Nige on December 13, 2014, 02:53:20 PM
That's just hoarding.  :P
You can have one if you like. :P

Seriously though, I was expecting Lids to get DPP and thought one of Christo or BJ may get DPP, but wasn't expecting them all. So I probably would look at trading some fwds.

shifty shifty

remember you claiming he had no chance

ofc i knew then and still know now that was holding your cards close to your chest

well played sir ;)
Haha, I did claim that. But at that time I wasn't ultra confident  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on December 13, 2014, 06:13:43 PM
I wouldn't really go for it, could see teams crippling their short term, or teams becoming super premium through trading future picks. Unless you just meant 2015 picks?


Quote from: meow meow on December 13, 2014, 05:20:23 PM
There's a massive incentive to just take the cheap and easy option and trade away all your picks for players and a lot of teams do that now as it is. There should be some incentive to draft your own team. Can we get a 10% reduction of points under the cap for players originally drafted to our own teams? When my blokes start to come good I'll have to trade some out due to the cap and all that does is encourage teams to be poachers.

I like the cap reduction idea for players originally drafted at the club. Maybe have the 10% reduction only when you are close to the cap, but if struggling to be over the minimum cap, you could include those points back in again? Like, points in the flux or something  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: AaronKirk on December 13, 2014, 06:40:54 PM
Cannot say that I am a fan of your idea there Oss.

I see the merit in the idea thrown up by Meow though. An incentive to grow your team with players drafted instead of raiding the lower teams to top up.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on December 15, 2014, 07:58:28 AM
Nice surprise in Josh Saunders being a pure F  8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on December 15, 2014, 10:45:20 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on December 15, 2014, 07:58:28 AM
Nice surprise in Josh Saunders being a pure F  8)
Makes me wish I didn't trade him out in BXVs.  :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on December 15, 2014, 09:37:06 PM
Just read that Chris Scott said Nakia Cockatoo is a chance to break into the Rd1 team having transitioned very well into AFL so far

Very happy to hear that, seeing as we used our first pick (11) on him :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on December 15, 2014, 09:38:57 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 15, 2014, 09:37:06 PM
Just read that Chris Scott said Nakia Cockatoo is a chance to break into the Rd1 team having transitioned very well into AFL so far

Very happy to hear that, seeing as we used our first pick (11) on him :)

haha just buttering up supporters
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on December 15, 2014, 09:39:37 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on December 13, 2014, 03:05:09 PM
Thinking about allowing teams to trade next year's draft picks in the second trade period...

Just a thought
Love it.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on December 15, 2014, 10:05:19 PM
Quote from: Jayman on December 15, 2014, 09:39:37 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on December 13, 2014, 03:05:09 PM
Thinking about allowing teams to trade next year's draft picks in the second trade period...

Just a thought
Love it.
Me too
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on December 16, 2014, 01:15:07 PM

Best Rookie Draft Picks

2012

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,69202.0.html

The Top 10 Picks:

1. Dublin - Matthew Taberner --> 0 WXV matches
2. New York - Ben Richmond -->  0 WXV matches
3. Berlin - Mitch Clisby -->  1 WXV match
4. PNL - Xavier Richards -->  0 WXV matches
5. Cairo - Kyle Hartigan -->  0 WXV matches
6. Tokyo - Amos Frank -->  0 WXV matches
7. Pacific - Adam Oxley -->  0 WXV matches
8. New Delhi - Lincoln McCarthy -->  0 WXV matches
9. London - Dane Rampe -->  18 WXV matches
10. Seoul - Cameron Hitchcock -->  0 WXV matches

Think we have a clear winner here! London's Dane Rampe looks a star from the top 10 pick, amongst 9 busts.

In fact, these are the only Rookie listed players from 2012 to play games:
Official   WXV
D Rampe   18
M Blicavs   5
T Nicholls   4
A Cornelius   4
M Gleeson   4
T Curren   3
G Burbury   3
T Jonas   1
Z Williams   1
C Shenton   1
B Wilson   1
M Clisby   1
S Tunbridge   1
D Minchington   1
L McCarthy   1
M Warren   1
J Ferguson   1

They've had much more success in the reserves though:
Official   RXV
T Jonas   41
M Blicavs   31
N Brown   30
J Frost   21
D Rampe   18
B McKenzie   18
T Curren   16
M Austin   16
B Jack   15
Z Williams   14
C Shenton   10
A Riley   10


2013

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,87817.0.html

1. Wellington - Max King -->  0 WXV matches
2. Beijing - Sam Gray -->  5 WXV matches
3. Pacific - Joel Tippett -->  0 WXV matches
4. New Delhi - Ben Ross -->  0 WXV matches
5. Tokyo - Tom Derickx -->  4 WXV matches
6. PNL - Zach O'Brien -->  0 WXV matches
7. Seoul - Beau Maister -->  0 WXV matches
8. New York - Sam Russell -->  0 WXV matches
9. London - Archie Smith -->  0 WXV matches
10. Dublin - Tom Simpkin -->  0 WXV matches

Sam Gray the winner here. Hard to find many gems in the rookie draft apparently!

2013 Matches from the rookies:
Official   WXV15
S Gray   5
A Schneider   4
T Derickx   4
M Gleeson   4
P Ambrose   3
D Astbury   2
C Shenton   1
A Georgiou   1
L McCarthy   1
M Warren   1


And again better luck in the reserves:
Official   RXV15
J Frost   19
J Bennell   14
N Jetta   12
A Litherland   12
P Ambrose   9
C Shenton   9
M Austin   9
T Derickx   7
D Astbury   6
A Georgiou   6
Z O'Brien   5
T Simpkin   5




Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 16, 2014, 01:23:17 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on December 16, 2014, 01:15:07 PM

Best Rookie Draft Picks

2012


The Top 10 Picks:

1. Dublin - Matthew Taberner --> 0 WXV matches


Think we have a clear winner here! London's Dane Rampe looks a star from the top 10 pick, amongst 9 busts.


Amazing work as usual Ossie, I feel like Taberner wont turn out to be a bust. He was almost a premiership player with him a 50/50 to be picked for the Dublin 2014 Grand final squad.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on December 16, 2014, 01:51:01 PM

Re: trading future picks

Seems pretty split right now:

Yay: Mexico City, Moscow, Pacific, Cape Town

Nay: Cairo, Berlin, New York


So I don't think we will do it...


Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on December 16, 2014, 02:04:27 PM
If it's just the following season then can experiment with it. But also got to make sure the strong teams just don't get stronger by trading away picks, but can certainly help lower teams be able to build on their squad.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on December 16, 2014, 02:25:18 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on December 16, 2014, 02:04:27 PM
If it's just the following season then can experiment with it. But also got to make sure the strong teams just don't get stronger by trading away picks, but can certainly help lower teams be able to build on their squad.

There would still be a points cap so teams like Dublin and PNL won't be able to go shopping on credit.

What about list sizes though? Would trades have to be 1-for-1 or could some teams have 38 and others 42?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on December 16, 2014, 02:31:05 PM
I don't mind the idea of trading future picks!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on December 16, 2014, 02:32:41 PM
Forgot about the points cap, fair point there.

Reckon will be 1 for 1 + pick, but will be tough now that the PSD/Rookie draft have been/being completed. Had it been say a player for a future pick, could have used a draft in order for the team to get back up to list size. But as the drafts are being done now, not sure how it'll work without it being player for player + pick.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on December 16, 2014, 02:33:52 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on December 16, 2014, 01:15:07 PM
Official   RXV
T Jonas   41

Expecting this guy to improve his tally of senior games in 2015 at Beijing 8) Shenton also a chance down back while some of our younger boys develop a bit more!

Quote from: ossie85 on December 16, 2014, 01:15:07 PM
2. Beijing - Sam Gray -->  5 WXV matches

Wasn't a superb first season for him as it was hard to break into the PA team for most of the year, but it's good to hear that he rates as one of the better rookies from last year :) Should be a fwd as well next year so could get a few more games form permitting!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on December 16, 2014, 02:40:03 PM
Quote from: meow meow on December 16, 2014, 02:25:18 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on December 16, 2014, 02:04:27 PM
If it's just the following season then can experiment with it. But also got to make sure the strong teams just don't get stronger by trading away picks, but can certainly help lower teams be able to build on their squad.

There would still be a points cap so teams like Dublin and PNL won't be able to go shopping on credit.

What about list sizes though? Would trades have to be 1-for-1 or could some teams have 38 and others 42?

Future picks would be excluded from the 1 to 1: (So it would be Smith + First Round for Jones)

BUT, on that tangent... Would a 'list' cap be better than a points cap? I.e. this year it would have seen Dublin only allowed to have 35 players and Pacific 53....

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on December 16, 2014, 02:44:05 PM
Not a big fan of that. As could just mean more quality players for top teams while just depth guys for lower teams (53 players but maybe just a handful of fantasy players). More likely for somebody to come good with 53 on there, but there are always flaws to caps and stuff.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on December 16, 2014, 02:46:44 PM
Yeh I like the points cap (actually think the maximum could come down further :P)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on December 16, 2014, 02:47:25 PM
I don't mind the points cap at all either :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on December 16, 2014, 02:53:23 PM
Points cap is good as is :)

If anything could raise minimum slightly :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on December 16, 2014, 02:54:29 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 16, 2014, 02:46:44 PM
Yeh I like the points cap (actually think the maximum could come down further :P)

Quote from: Toga on December 16, 2014, 02:47:25 PM
I don't mind the points cap at all either :)

Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 16, 2014, 02:53:23 PM
Points cap is good as is :)

If anything could raise minimum slightly :P


God I get so much lip about the points cap, I forgot people actually liked it!

Min's already too low IMO :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on December 16, 2014, 02:55:42 PM
Haha it's interesting some love it, some hate it Oz. Can't please everybody!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Boomz on December 16, 2014, 02:57:03 PM
All for future picks if only one year ahead.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 16, 2014, 03:01:15 PM
you know my opinion on the point cap, I think its bad for the comp and actually benefits the very top teams.

In terms of a player cap instead than I have no issue with weaker teams being able to have more players on their list but top teams should not have that much fewer.

not sure its possible as we might run out of players.

something like top 4, only 38
5-8 41 players
9-14 44 players
5-18 47 players

for the record im against trading future picks aswell, as long as the point cap is in play. 
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on December 16, 2014, 03:03:16 PM
Why do you think it benefits the top teams Holz? Just out of curiosity :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on December 16, 2014, 03:05:20 PM
Quote from: Toga on December 16, 2014, 03:03:16 PM
Why do you think it benefits the top teams Holz? Just out of curiosity :)
Yeh its surely decreases quality depth of top teams? and gives more depth to poorer teams to trade with
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on December 16, 2014, 03:14:09 PM
points cap wouldn't be needed if the current trade approval system wasn't so flawed

Ossie should be approving trades by himself he can look at teams see if they can afford to lose player a or player b and look at reasons to trade to see if they make sense

like if a team rebuilding got offered NAT 1 for an old player like Jordan Lewis or whoever and cant do it cause of minimum caps it's crazy when it's in the best interest of the team to do it no point doing a half arsed job rebuilding
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 16, 2014, 03:18:15 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 16, 2014, 03:05:20 PM
Quote from: Toga on December 16, 2014, 03:03:16 PM
Why do you think it benefits the top teams Holz? Just out of curiosity :)
Yeh its surely decreases quality depth of top teams? and gives more depth to poorer teams to trade with

its good for that but it certainly makes a gap between the good teams and the elite teams.

I can go into this in a lot more detail but essentially it comes down to this.

If every team is capped at 30k points than yes on paper the top teams should be equal. However using Dublin as an example because my list is soo strong in quality of players I have much more than 30k worth of value in my team. Therefore I can trade my list to make a really young 30k team which will be the very best it can be for years i.e. 30k. Now teams wanting to compete with Dublin will also need to get to 30k but their list at 30k will be of lower quality e.g. older players.

Teams are unable to go fully old and overtake me as they are capped at 30k. So im allowed to have the most dominant team possible 30k while just keep building a younger and better list and the cap lets me do that. So say at the end of the year Im at 35k as my list is young and improves, I simply just trade a few guys out for quality rookies and im back at 30k with another super strong list. 

Yes it means elite teams will have competition each year but it means top teams can be top 4 for a long period of time as there is no need to keep improving my scoring output as im already there.

Caps can always be manipulated at the strongest lists are most able to do so.

Im all for helping bottom teams but im not sure capping the top is a good idea.

saying this, its just one persons opinion so happy to go with Ossie and/or the majority. I see equalisation differently coming from another comp im more about having a free system and than just helping the bottom teams with advice. that's why in the euro I took over the weakest team and why im trying to help the dillos rebuild.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on December 16, 2014, 03:23:29 PM
Yeh but every year (if your players keep improving) you will have to trade down from 35k to 30k (for arguments sake) and each year the bottom teams will be able to have more depth/ammo that the top teams for trading in quality players. There will always be better traders than others, but if you can give the bottom teams more ammo/depth to trade with and the top teams less, it should bring the comp closer together eventually
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 16, 2014, 03:28:16 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 16, 2014, 03:23:29 PM
Yeh but every year (if your players keep improving) you will have to trade down from 35k to 30k (for arguments sake) and each year the bottom teams will be able to have more depth/ammo that the top teams for trading in quality players. There will always be better traders than others, but if you can give the bottom teams more ammo/depth to trade with and the top teams less, it should bring the comp closer together eventually

it possibly helps the bottom clubs if those are the people the top teams trade with, but primarily this doesn't happen. I think a majority of my trading was with the teams inside the top 8 and that seemed the way with the other top teams.

for example this trade.  Sandi + Gibbs for Rocky. that trade helps Jroo under the cap (while I say improving his list). I didn't see much of trading away guns for picks to help the weak clubs.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on December 16, 2014, 03:35:44 PM
PNL (Iceland in Euros) trade with bottom teams, Holz's teams do not, it's just how he is :P.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on December 16, 2014, 03:36:57 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 16, 2014, 03:28:16 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 16, 2014, 03:23:29 PM
Yeh but every year (if your players keep improving) you will have to trade down from 35k to 30k (for arguments sake) and each year the bottom teams will be able to have more depth/ammo that the top teams for trading in quality players. There will always be better traders than others, but if you can give the bottom teams more ammo/depth to trade with and the top teams less, it should bring the comp closer together eventually

it possibly helps the bottom clubs if those are the people the top teams trade with, but primarily this doesn't happen. I think a majority of my trading was with the teams inside the top 8 and that seemed the way with the other top teams.

for example this trade.  Sandi + Gibbs for Rocky. that trade helps Jroo under the cap (while I say improving his list). I didn't see much of trading away guns for picks to help the weak clubs.
Yeh but if those top teams are above 30k, they'll have to trade with the bottom teams.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 16, 2014, 03:37:21 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on December 16, 2014, 03:35:44 PM
PNL (Iceland in Euros) trade with bottom teams, Holz's teams do not, it's just how he is :P.

that's the euro ;)

Holz is a bottom team and I trade with the top teams all the time :P

didn't see PNL lose any of their top guns for picks.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 16, 2014, 03:39:43 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 16, 2014, 03:36:57 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 16, 2014, 03:28:16 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 16, 2014, 03:23:29 PM
Yeh but every year (if your players keep improving) you will have to trade down from 35k to 30k (for arguments sake) and each year the bottom teams will be able to have more depth/ammo that the top teams for trading in quality players. There will always be better traders than others, but if you can give the bottom teams more ammo/depth to trade with and the top teams less, it should bring the comp closer together eventually

it possibly helps the bottom clubs if those are the people the top teams trade with, but primarily this doesn't happen. I think a majority of my trading was with the teams inside the top 8 and that seemed the way with the other top teams.

for example this trade.  Sandi + Gibbs for Rocky. that trade helps Jroo under the cap (while I say improving his list). I didn't see much of trading away guns for picks to help the weak clubs.
Yeh but if those top teams are above 30k, they'll have to trade with the bottom teams.

not necessarily, the rocky trade was done with a middle of the road team. I don't think Dublin did any trading with the bottom squads (well I did but they were the ones that got rejected)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on December 16, 2014, 03:45:47 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 16, 2014, 03:39:43 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 16, 2014, 03:36:57 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 16, 2014, 03:28:16 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 16, 2014, 03:23:29 PM
Yeh but every year (if your players keep improving) you will have to trade down from 35k to 30k (for arguments sake) and each year the bottom teams will be able to have more depth/ammo that the top teams for trading in quality players. There will always be better traders than others, but if you can give the bottom teams more ammo/depth to trade with and the top teams less, it should bring the comp closer together eventually

it possibly helps the bottom clubs if those are the people the top teams trade with, but primarily this doesn't happen. I think a majority of my trading was with the teams inside the top 8 and that seemed the way with the other top teams.

for example this trade.  Sandi + Gibbs for Rocky. that trade helps Jroo under the cap (while I say improving his list). I didn't see much of trading away guns for picks to help the weak clubs.
Yeh but if those top teams are above 30k, they'll have to trade with the bottom teams.

not necessarily, the rocky trade was done with a middle of the road team. I don't think Dublin did any trading with the bottom squads (well I did but they were the ones that got rejected)
The top teams would have to trade to lower their points though, which will have to be with a bottom/middle team (assuming top teams are near the max cap). Doesn't have to be top teams giving up guns. Even if its a top team giving up an ok player for a kid, it then gives the bottom teams more ammo to ontrade to get a premo.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on December 16, 2014, 04:25:07 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 16, 2014, 03:37:21 PM
didn't see PNL lose any of their top guns for picks.

PNL did trade Jaensch (+ Shenton and Clay Smith) for Nat 5 ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: upthemaidens on December 16, 2014, 07:19:49 PM
 How about this.  Top teams have a lower points cap, weaker teams have a higher cap.

Example:  If you finish top 4 your max. cap for the following season is 27K, if you finish bottom 4 cap it's 32K, and the middle teams have the normal 30K.
    Or have a sliding scale i.e. 1st gets 27K and for every spot lower the squad gets +300pts extra, so 6th will get 28.5K and 18th will get 32K.

  This would even out the comp. from year to year, would it not?
      It certainly will make strong teams have to manage their squads better and will force them to trade with teams that have room in their cap.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on December 16, 2014, 07:24:43 PM
I don't think that the top teams should be punished for being good. Plus what are the top teams meant to do? Trade all their guns to the bottom teams?


I must admit I wasn't a fan of the 30,000 cap at first, but it's not as bad as I expected. I'm happy for it to stay the same.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on December 16, 2014, 07:27:52 PM
top teams wouldn't be trading guns. You'd be trading like a D6 for a kid that would equal D8+ or picks
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on December 16, 2014, 07:37:31 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 16, 2014, 07:27:52 PM
top teams wouldn't be trading guns. You'd be trading like a D6 for a kid that would equal D8+ or picks
Well then how will we drop all those points? Look at us and Dublin. We only have 3-4 depth players who actually play. Outside that, most of our players have 0 cap points. So we'd have to get rid of guns or good depth.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on December 16, 2014, 07:48:39 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on December 16, 2014, 07:37:31 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 16, 2014, 07:27:52 PM
top teams wouldn't be trading guns. You'd be trading like a D6 for a kid that would equal D8+ or picks
Well then how will we drop all those points? Look at us and Dublin. We only have 3-4 depth players who actually play. Outside that, most of our players have 0 cap points. So we'd have to get rid of guns or good depth.
That's the point man. Top team's 'good depth' are starters for bottom teams. It evens up the comp
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on December 16, 2014, 07:53:57 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 16, 2014, 07:48:39 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on December 16, 2014, 07:37:31 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 16, 2014, 07:27:52 PM
top teams wouldn't be trading guns. You'd be trading like a D6 for a kid that would equal D8+ or picks
Well then how will we drop all those points? Look at us and Dublin. We only have 3-4 depth players who actually play. Outside that, most of our players have 0 cap points. So we'd have to get rid of guns or good depth.
That's the point man. Top team's 'good depth' are starters for bottom teams. It evens up the comp
Yeah but I doubt these bottom teams will be interested in half our players. Most teams aren't interested in competing now and don't want our old guys, haha.

I'm happy with the cap as it is now.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on December 16, 2014, 08:25:11 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on December 16, 2014, 07:53:57 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 16, 2014, 07:48:39 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on December 16, 2014, 07:37:31 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 16, 2014, 07:27:52 PM
top teams wouldn't be trading guns. You'd be trading like a D6 for a kid that would equal D8+ or picks
Well then how will we drop all those points? Look at us and Dublin. We only have 3-4 depth players who actually play. Outside that, most of our players have 0 cap points. So we'd have to get rid of guns or good depth.
That's the point man. Top team's 'good depth' are starters for bottom teams. It evens up the comp
Yeah but I doubt these bottom teams will be interested in half our players. Most teams aren't interested in competing now and don't want our old guys, haha.

I'm happy with the cap as it is now.
Its more that 90% of top teams trades/offers are to improve their starting side. So using depth players to get a better player off the bottom teams. Thats why it looks like lesser teams dont like older players. if its the other way round (good depth for two lesser depth/picks) then the middle/bottom teams will jump at your good depth. The lower the max cap the more top teams will have to do that
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 16, 2014, 08:34:09 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 16, 2014, 08:25:11 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on December 16, 2014, 07:53:57 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 16, 2014, 07:48:39 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on December 16, 2014, 07:37:31 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 16, 2014, 07:27:52 PM
top teams wouldn't be trading guns. You'd be trading like a D6 for a kid that would equal D8+ or picks
Well then how will we drop all those points? Look at us and Dublin. We only have 3-4 depth players who actually play. Outside that, most of our players have 0 cap points. So we'd have to get rid of guns or good depth.
That's the point man. Top team's 'good depth' are starters for bottom teams. It evens up the comp
Yeah but I doubt these bottom teams will be interested in half our players. Most teams aren't interested in competing now and don't want our old guys, haha.

I'm happy with the cap as it is now.
Its more that 90% of top teams trades/offers are to improve their starting side. So using depth players to get a better player off the bottom teams. Thats why it looks like lesser teams dont like older players. if its the other way round (good depth for two lesser depth/picks) then the middle/bottom teams will jump at your good depth. The lower the max cap the more top teams will have to do that

but the way the cap is arranged than to fit in the cap top teams need to reduce their depth. So wont trade a good depth for two lesser depth players as in most cases the two lesser depth players take up more cap than the quality depth.

for example a 80 average defender for two 65 average defenders actually increases your cap.

so the only way to really work is to package a bunch of bad depth for one good depth player.

e.g. I did Jack Redden + Michael Hurley + some spud for Tom Rockliff and that reduced my cap.

If it was the other way and lets say I wanted to give a weak team Tom Rockliff for Redden + Hurley I cant do that as it increases my points.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on December 16, 2014, 08:38:43 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 16, 2014, 08:34:09 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 16, 2014, 08:25:11 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on December 16, 2014, 07:53:57 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 16, 2014, 07:48:39 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on December 16, 2014, 07:37:31 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 16, 2014, 07:27:52 PM
top teams wouldn't be trading guns. You'd be trading like a D6 for a kid that would equal D8+ or picks
Well then how will we drop all those points? Look at us and Dublin. We only have 3-4 depth players who actually play. Outside that, most of our players have 0 cap points. So we'd have to get rid of guns or good depth.
That's the point man. Top team's 'good depth' are starters for bottom teams. It evens up the comp
Yeah but I doubt these bottom teams will be interested in half our players. Most teams aren't interested in competing now and don't want our old guys, haha.

I'm happy with the cap as it is now.
Its more that 90% of top teams trades/offers are to improve their starting side. So using depth players to get a better player off the bottom teams. Thats why it looks like lesser teams dont like older players. if its the other way round (good depth for two lesser depth/picks) then the middle/bottom teams will jump at your good depth. The lower the max cap the more top teams will have to do that

but the way the cap is arranged than to fit in the cap top teams need to reduce their depth. So wont trade a good depth for two lesser depth players as in most cases the two lesser depth players take up more cap than the quality depth.

for example a 80 average defender for two 65 average defenders actually increases your cap.

so the only way to really work is to package a bunch of bad depth for one good depth player.

e.g. I did Jack Redden + Michael Hurley + some spud for Tom Rockliff and that reduced my cap.

If it was the other way and lets say I wanted to give a weak team Tom Rockliff for Redden + Hurley I cant do that as it increases my points.
Not really man. Itd be more like
An 80ave depth player for one/two kids that have only played a handful of games or involving picks
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: upthemaidens on December 16, 2014, 08:42:57 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on December 16, 2014, 07:24:43 PM
I don't think that the top teams should be punished for being good. Plus what are the top teams meant to do? Trade all their guns to the bottom teams?


I must admit I wasn't a fan of the 30,000 cap at first, but it's not as bad as I expected. I'm happy for it to stay the same.
What's the difference between top teams being punished compared to weak teams being helped?
  Surely it's just the way you look at it, isn't it?    The same outcome is achieved.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 16, 2014, 08:46:23 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on December 16, 2014, 08:42:57 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on December 16, 2014, 07:24:43 PM
I don't think that the top teams should be punished for being good. Plus what are the top teams meant to do? Trade all their guns to the bottom teams?


I must admit I wasn't a fan of the 30,000 cap at first, but it's not as bad as I expected. I'm happy for it to stay the same.
What's the difference between top teams being punished compared to weak teams being helped?
  Surely it's just the way you look at it, isn't it?    The same outcome is achieved.

not really.

the weak team being helped is aimed to lift up the bottom clubs to the middle of the pack.

the strong teams being hurt is aimed to pull back the top clubs towards the middle of the pack.

so if you just do the first one than some teams will be stronger than others but you don't have any really bad teams if equalisation works. the latter is basically aiming for all 18 teams to be even.

so its a completely different way of approaching it. Worlds seems to want to go down the second route. Where in the Euro I only help the bottom clubs by giving them priority picks, strong rookie draft and make sure the bottom teams either have experienced coaches or I give advice on rebuilding.

Either way is fine but its about what your trying to do, so im fine with either. Ossie does a great Job and wanting a even comp right through is fine by me.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: upthemaidens on December 16, 2014, 08:50:33 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 16, 2014, 08:46:23 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on December 16, 2014, 08:42:57 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on December 16, 2014, 07:24:43 PM
I don't think that the top teams should be punished for being good. Plus what are the top teams meant to do? Trade all their guns to the bottom teams?


I must admit I wasn't a fan of the 30,000 cap at first, but it's not as bad as I expected. I'm happy for it to stay the same.
What's the difference between top teams being punished compared to weak teams being helped?
  Surely it's just the way you look at it, isn't it?    The same outcome is achieved.

not really.

the weak team being helped is aimed to lift up the bottom clubs to the middle of the pack.

the strong teams being hurt is aimed to pull back the top clubs towards the middle of the pack.

so if you just do the first one than some teams will be stronger than others but you don't have any really bad teams if equalisation works. the latter is basically aiming for all 18 teams to be even.
Well isn't that what is wanted? All teams, any given season have a shot.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on December 16, 2014, 08:56:36 PM
Seems like so many ideas keep getting thrown around with the initial thought of evening up the comp

It's not going to happen. Look at any competition in the world, there is always better teams, and teams that struggle

This comp, over years gives all teams a chance to turn around and build up if a capable coach is at the helm

I like the comp just the way it is
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on December 16, 2014, 09:08:28 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 16, 2014, 08:56:36 PM
Seems like so many ideas keep getting thrown around with the initial thought of evening up the comp

It's not going to happen. Look at any competition in the world, there is always better teams, and teams that struggle

This comp, over years gives all teams a chance to turn around and build up if a capable coach is at the helm

I like the comp just the way it is

I don't want the comp to be even, I just want any team to have a realistic chance of beating any other team on any given week. That chance only needs to be 5% or so, but some games are foregone conclusions.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on December 16, 2014, 09:12:22 PM
I like trading of future picks.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on December 16, 2014, 09:31:20 PM
Quote from: Toga on December 16, 2014, 04:25:07 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 16, 2014, 03:37:21 PM
didn't see PNL lose any of their top guns for picks.
PNL did trade Jaensch (+ Shenton and Clay Smith) for Nat 5 ;)
Holz looks at things that prove his point so ofc didn't notice that ;). I rate Clay highly, just had a bad run of injuries and Shenton came into his own this season 8). I also traded Grundy (ready-made back) + Corr for Morabito to New York. Harder to trade with bottom teams but it's possible if working at it. And PNL had/have too much depth but I like it that way >:D.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on December 16, 2014, 09:37:04 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 16, 2014, 08:25:11 PM
Its more that 90% of top teams trades/offers are to improve their starting side. So using depth players to get a better player off the bottom teams. Thats why it looks like lesser teams dont like older players. if its the other way round (good depth for two lesser depth/picks) then the middle/bottom teams will jump at your good depth. The lower the max cap the more top teams will have to do that

I can't agree anymore with this!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 16, 2014, 09:56:41 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on December 16, 2014, 09:31:20 PM
Quote from: Toga on December 16, 2014, 04:25:07 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 16, 2014, 03:37:21 PM
didn't see PNL lose any of their top guns for picks.
PNL did trade Jaensch (+ Shenton and Clay Smith) for Nat 5 ;)
Holz looks at things that prove his point so ofc didn't notice that ;). I rate Clay highly, just had a bad run of injuries and Shenton came into his own this season 8). I also traded Grundy (ready-made back) + Corr for Morabito to New York. Harder to trade with bottom teams but it's possible if working at it. And PNL had/have too much depth but I like it that way >:D.

Jaensch not a top gun.

Sorry should have said PNL ripped off one weak team ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on December 18, 2014, 02:14:40 PM
So Boomer keeps DPP and NDS doesn't get it. Holz isn't going to be happy lol...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on December 18, 2014, 02:22:04 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on December 18, 2014, 02:14:40 PM
So Boomer keeps DPP and NDS doesn't get it. Holz isn't going to be happy lol...

Holz probably slept with the Champion Data guys wife
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on December 18, 2014, 04:59:08 PM
Confirmed by superfooty and virtual sports today

Swan fwd/mid
Goddard fwd/mid
Deledio fwd/mid
Ziebell fwd/mid
HBennell fwd/mid
DThomas fwd/mid
Cooney fwd/mid
Ryder ruck.fwd
Bellchambers ruck/fwd
Harbrow def/mid
Karkouer mid/fwd
Petracca fwd/mid
Laverde fwd/mid
HGoddard def/fwd
Durdin def/ruck
Lambert fwd/mid
Duncan mid only
BEllis mid only
NDS is a mid only
KStevens a mid/fwd
JThomas a mid/fwd
CBird a mid/fwd
TAdams mid/fwd
MRobbo mid/fwd
Zaha mid only
Hunt mid only
CPearce def/mid
Duncan mid only
McGlynn mid only
Danger mid only
SMitchell mid only
PHanley mid only
Bartel fwd only
LParker mid only
JMcVeigh mid only
DSwallow mid only
SMartin ruck only
Wingard forward only
LTaylor forward only
Caddy mid only
LMcDonald def only
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on December 18, 2014, 05:03:14 PM
All good news for Toronto there with Ziebell, Ryder and Robbo hopefully making up 3 of my starting forwards next year!

Is that the complete list of those who have gained/lost DPP? If so it looks as though I may be able to play Pedo and Hendo as  defenders again! Bit of a shock if that's the case.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on December 18, 2014, 05:03:56 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on December 18, 2014, 05:03:14 PM
All good news for Toronto there with Ziebell, Ryder and Robbo hopefully making up 3 of my starting forwards next year!

Is that the complete list of those who have gained/lost DPP? If so it looks as though I may be able to play Pedo and Hendo as  defenders again! Bit of a shock if that's the case.
Nah not all mate. Just a few leaked today. SC Gold opens next week
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on December 18, 2014, 05:04:27 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on December 18, 2014, 05:03:14 PM
All good news for Toronto there with Ziebell, Ryder and Robbo hopefully making up 3 of my starting forwards next year!

Is that the complete list of those who have gained/lost DPP? If so it looks as though I may be able to play Pedo and Hendo as  defenders again! Bit of a shock if that's the case.
You guys were lucky!

Nope not the complete list. Rest will revealed next week.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on December 18, 2014, 05:05:53 PM
Cheers Rico!

Couple of big kicks in the teeth for some clubs. Can't imagine Seoul wanted to lose Danger AND Swallow to the mids, or London losing McVeigh defender status. Bunch of others also...

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on December 18, 2014, 05:07:24 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on December 18, 2014, 05:05:53 PM
Cheers Rico!

Couple of big kicks in the teeth for some clubs. Can't imagine Seoul wanted to lose Danger AND Swallow to the mids, or London losing McVeigh defender status. Bunch of others also...
No worries mate. Yeh and must admit MDuncan was a big surprise. We ended up getting basically Masten Nicholls and Griffiths for him
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 18, 2014, 05:08:36 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on December 18, 2014, 02:22:04 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on December 18, 2014, 02:14:40 PM
So Boomer keeps DPP and NDS doesn't get it. Holz isn't going to be happy lol...

Holz probably slept with the Champion Data guys wife

im half expecting lance franklin, jack gunston, grant birchall, alex rance, todd goldsteing  to soon be confirmed as mid only soon.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on December 18, 2014, 05:11:33 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on December 18, 2014, 05:05:53 PM
Cheers Rico!

Couple of big kicks in the teeth for some clubs. Can't imagine Seoul wanted to lose Danger AND Swallow to the mids, or London losing McVeigh defender status. Bunch of others also...

was expected but still hurts
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on December 18, 2014, 05:15:45 PM
Laverde with Forward/Mid status :D. We have a nice mix of forwards now that Swan also a forward.

Westhoff, Swan, Rioli, Wingard (Lynch, Billings, Zerrett, Casboult, Laverde).
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on December 18, 2014, 05:18:07 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on December 18, 2014, 05:15:45 PM
Westhoff, Swan, Rioli, Wingard (Lynch, Billings, Zerrett, Casboult, Laverde).

That's probably a 360 averaging forward line (consertive). And could go BANG over 500 any given week....
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on December 18, 2014, 05:22:29 PM
hope he does but doubt Zerrett will be a forward
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 18, 2014, 05:22:53 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on December 18, 2014, 05:15:45 PM
Laverde with Forward/Mid status :D. We have a nice mix of forwards now that Swan also a forward.

Westhoff, Swan, Rioli, Wingard (Lynch, Billings, Zerrett, Casboult, Laverde).

sold the house to get my forward line. yours is certainly deeper but I might have the bigger fire power.

Buddy, Martin, Roughead, Gunston (Walters, Boston)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on December 18, 2014, 05:26:56 PM
Yeah you got the top end easily on me Holz, but I like my depth and got like the next 5 years covered for forwards :D.

Quote from: kilbluff1985 on December 18, 2014, 05:22:29 PM
hope he does but doubt Zerrett will be a forward
Other sites have him as a straight forward, so I'm hoping he gets it!

Quote from: ossie85 on December 18, 2014, 05:18:07 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on December 18, 2014, 05:15:45 PM
Westhoff, Swan, Rioli, Wingard (Lynch, Billings, Zerrett, Casboult, Laverde).
That's probably a 360 averaging forward line (consertive). And could go BANG over 500 any given week....
Lets hope Rioli stays fit, Swan goes back to 110 and Wingard has his second year form again (so many factors).
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on December 18, 2014, 05:27:35 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 18, 2014, 05:22:53 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on December 18, 2014, 05:15:45 PM
Laverde with Forward/Mid status :D. We have a nice mix of forwards now that Swan also a forward.

Westhoff, Swan, Rioli, Wingard (Lynch, Billings, Zerrett, Casboult, Laverde).

sold the house to get my forward line. yours is certainly deeper but I might have the bigger fire power.

Buddy, Martin, Roughead, Gunston (Walters, Boston)

^ it's the 3 key forwards that's the risk. I can see you having some shockers occasionally (Mostly will be awesome though)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 18, 2014, 05:28:27 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on December 18, 2014, 05:27:35 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 18, 2014, 05:22:53 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on December 18, 2014, 05:15:45 PM
Laverde with Forward/Mid status :D. We have a nice mix of forwards now that Swan also a forward.

Westhoff, Swan, Rioli, Wingard (Lynch, Billings, Zerrett, Casboult, Laverde).

sold the house to get my forward line. yours is certainly deeper but I might have the bigger fire power.

Buddy, Martin, Roughead, Gunston (Walters, Boston)

^ it's the 3 key forwards that's the risk. I can see you having some shockers occasionally (Mostly will be awesome though)

got them because I thought VS would be tougher on DPP forwards this year ;P

not if you have ever kicked a goal in your career your a forward.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jukes on December 18, 2014, 05:28:43 PM
Nobody else can claim to have the next Lockett/Ablett/Dunstall in Daniher/Hogan/Moore tho :3
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on December 18, 2014, 05:30:28 PM
Quote from: Biff Tannen on December 18, 2014, 05:28:43 PM
Nobody else can claim to have the next Lockett/Ablett/Dunstall in Daniher/Hogan/Moore tho :3
Umm McCartin is the next Lockett >:( They should have given him #4
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on December 18, 2014, 05:31:04 PM
Thank god Daisy got F status for the price I paid  :D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 18, 2014, 05:33:07 PM
Quote from: Biff Tannen on December 18, 2014, 05:28:43 PM
Nobody else can claim to have the next Lockett/Ablett/Dunstall in Daniher/Hogan/Moore tho :3

Nathan ablett maybe.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on December 18, 2014, 05:36:21 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on December 18, 2014, 05:31:04 PM
Thank god Daisy got F status for the price I paid  :D

Midfield, forward, still scores nothing when injured
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on December 18, 2014, 05:38:50 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on December 18, 2014, 05:36:21 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on December 18, 2014, 05:31:04 PM
Thank god Daisy got F status for the price I paid  :D

Midfield, forward, still scores nothing when injured

Oh I'm sure he does some sort of scoring when injured  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on December 18, 2014, 05:47:40 PM
The only one that's had any impact on us is Hanley, but we're fairly confident we can cover him being mid only next season before he goes back to DPP in 2016.

Now pretty much just waiting on some of our lesser names like Gordon, McGovern, Brown and Colyer to name a few.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on December 18, 2014, 05:53:41 PM
McVeigh does not really hurt me a lot as he was played mid all year last season.

Waiting on other announcements to see where I end up.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on December 18, 2014, 06:03:42 PM
WE GOT A RUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

Thank you Mr Sam Durdin! :D

Hopefully he plays early.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 18, 2014, 06:08:02 PM
Quote from: Vinny on December 18, 2014, 06:03:42 PM
WE GOT A RUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

Thank you Mr Sam Durdin! :D

Hopefully he plays early.

what a genius pick up that late to get a first round D/R
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on December 18, 2014, 06:09:59 PM
So good, didn't think he'd get DPP though. :o :D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on December 18, 2014, 06:11:21 PM
Quote from: Vinny on December 18, 2014, 06:03:42 PM
WE GOT A RUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
NDT now have 7 lol


We were in your possie with zero rucks last year
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on December 18, 2014, 06:12:51 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 18, 2014, 06:11:21 PM
Quote from: Vinny on December 18, 2014, 06:03:42 PM
WE GOT A RUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
NDT now have 7 lol


We were in your possie with zero rucks last year
Shame you traded your best one.

M.Gale S.Hampson
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on December 18, 2014, 06:13:24 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 18, 2014, 05:28:27 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on December 18, 2014, 05:27:35 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 18, 2014, 05:22:53 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on December 18, 2014, 05:15:45 PM
Laverde with Forward/Mid status :D. We have a nice mix of forwards now that Swan also a forward.

Westhoff, Swan, Rioli, Wingard (Lynch, Billings, Zerrett, Casboult, Laverde).

sold the house to get my forward line. yours is certainly deeper but I might have the bigger fire power.

Buddy, Martin, Roughead, Gunston (Walters, Boston)

^ it's the 3 key forwards that's the risk. I can see you having some shockers occasionally (Mostly will be awesome though)

got them because I thought VS would be tougher on DPP forwards this year ;P

not if you have ever kicked a goal in your career your a forward.

Except McGlynn, averaged over a goal a game and instead of just gaining Mid DPP loses FWD altogether ::)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 18, 2014, 06:14:19 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 18, 2014, 06:13:24 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 18, 2014, 05:28:27 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on December 18, 2014, 05:27:35 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 18, 2014, 05:22:53 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on December 18, 2014, 05:15:45 PM
Laverde with Forward/Mid status :D. We have a nice mix of forwards now that Swan also a forward.

Westhoff, Swan, Rioli, Wingard (Lynch, Billings, Zerrett, Casboult, Laverde).

sold the house to get my forward line. yours is certainly deeper but I might have the bigger fire power.

Buddy, Martin, Roughead, Gunston (Walters, Boston)

^ it's the 3 key forwards that's the risk. I can see you having some shockers occasionally (Mostly will be awesome though)

got them because I thought VS would be tougher on DPP forwards this year ;P

not if you have ever kicked a goal in your career your a forward.

Except McGlynn, averaged over a goal a game and instead of just gaining Mid DPP loses FWD altogether ::)

I told you that would happen and you said it was no shot. that's why I was buying him as a mid only.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jukes on December 18, 2014, 06:16:52 PM
Quote from: Vinny on December 18, 2014, 06:03:42 PM
WE GOT A RUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

Thank you Mr Sam Durdin! :D

Hopefully he plays early.

We have Nic Nat, that's it :P

Pittonet should be good someday but not this season, don't think Gaulty will retain ruck status.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on December 18, 2014, 06:17:55 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 18, 2014, 06:11:21 PM
Quote from: Vinny on December 18, 2014, 06:03:42 PM
WE GOT A RUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
NDT now have 7 lol


We were in your possie with zero rucks last year
Haha yeah, we tried for rucks multiple times but no one wanted to trade them and then I flowering delisted Redden. ::)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on December 18, 2014, 06:18:34 PM
Quote from: Vinny on December 18, 2014, 06:17:55 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 18, 2014, 06:11:21 PM
Quote from: Vinny on December 18, 2014, 06:03:42 PM
WE GOT A RUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
NDT now have 7 lol


We were in your possie with zero rucks last year
Haha yeah, we tried for rucks multiple times but no one wanted to trade them and then I flowering delisted Redden. ::)
Classic Vin.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on December 18, 2014, 06:20:06 PM
To be fair I was sick when lodging that team and I thought I put him down already. :-[

I don't think he'll play at all anyway but would have been great just in case.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on December 18, 2014, 06:20:53 PM
Quote from: Vinny on December 18, 2014, 06:17:55 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 18, 2014, 06:11:21 PM
Quote from: Vinny on December 18, 2014, 06:03:42 PM
WE GOT A RUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
NDT now have 7 lol


We were in your possie with zero rucks last year
Haha yeah, we tried for rucks multiple times but no one wanted to trade them and then I flowering delisted Redden. ::)

Traded out Warnock and Hale also....
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on December 18, 2014, 06:21:58 PM
Quote from: Vinny on December 18, 2014, 06:20:06 PM
To be fair I was sick when lodging that team and I thought I put him down already. :-[

I don't think he'll play at all anyway but would have been great just in case.
You traded Hale and Warnock as well, didn't think to keep one?

Oss beat me to it.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on December 18, 2014, 06:27:34 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 18, 2014, 06:14:19 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 18, 2014, 06:13:24 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 18, 2014, 05:28:27 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on December 18, 2014, 05:27:35 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 18, 2014, 05:22:53 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on December 18, 2014, 05:15:45 PM
Laverde with Forward/Mid status :D. We have a nice mix of forwards now that Swan also a forward.

Westhoff, Swan, Rioli, Wingard (Lynch, Billings, Zerrett, Casboult, Laverde).

sold the house to get my forward line. yours is certainly deeper but I might have the bigger fire power.

Buddy, Martin, Roughead, Gunston (Walters, Boston)

^ it's the 3 key forwards that's the risk. I can see you having some shockers occasionally (Mostly will be awesome though)

got them because I thought VS would be tougher on DPP forwards this year ;P

not if you have ever kicked a goal in your career your a forward.

Except McGlynn, averaged over a goal a game and instead of just gaining Mid DPP loses FWD altogether ::)

I told you that would happen and you said it was no shot. that's why I was buying him as a mid only.

Didnt realise how incompetent they are
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on December 18, 2014, 07:33:26 PM
Adam Cooney gets forward statues! Hoorah.

Now just Savage needed.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on December 18, 2014, 07:34:24 PM
McGlynn didn't play in the forward line though so why would anyone expect him to be a forward? D. Beams kicked 23 goals from 19 games, should he be a forward too? Plenty of midfielders kick a few snags, they're still mids. This isn't netball.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on December 18, 2014, 08:19:48 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on December 18, 2014, 07:33:26 PM
Adam Cooney gets forward statues! Hoorah.

Now just Savage needed.
Savage got DPP, mate.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on December 18, 2014, 08:25:03 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on December 18, 2014, 08:19:48 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on December 18, 2014, 07:33:26 PM
Adam Cooney gets forward statues! Hoorah.

Now just Savage needed.
Savage got DPP, mate.

isn't he just a defender now not DPP?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on December 18, 2014, 08:26:43 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on December 18, 2014, 08:25:03 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on December 18, 2014, 08:19:48 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on December 18, 2014, 07:33:26 PM
Adam Cooney gets forward statues! Hoorah.

Now just Savage needed.
Savage got DPP, mate.

isn't he just a defender now not DPP?
Oh yeah, that's right. Defender only.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on December 18, 2014, 11:39:56 PM
Expected Caddy to be mid only so no real loss for Beijing, should be able to cover him in the forward line :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on December 19, 2014, 08:24:39 AM
Looks like Seoul catch a bit of a break with Josh Kelly gaining DPP
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on December 19, 2014, 08:28:35 AM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 19, 2014, 08:24:39 AM
Looks like Seoul catch a bit of a break with Josh Kelly gaining DPP

think i told you he would ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on December 19, 2014, 01:55:18 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on December 18, 2014, 08:26:43 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on December 18, 2014, 08:25:03 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on December 18, 2014, 08:19:48 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on December 18, 2014, 07:33:26 PM
Adam Cooney gets forward statues! Hoorah.

Now just Savage needed.
Savage got DPP, mate.

isn't he just a defender now not DPP?
Oh yeah, that's right. Defender only.

That's actually perfect for us.

I didn't realise Cooney was going to get dpp but he'll be a real handy forward and better than our current F4.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 19, 2014, 01:58:40 PM
seems everyone got a F/M for Christmas this year.

the forward line is almost as stacked as the midfield now.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on December 19, 2014, 02:14:48 PM
Starting to get a bit nervous about Clint Jones and James Kelly both getting defensive status given some of the remarks flying around about the lack of people gaining defensive eligibility and the large number losing it!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on December 19, 2014, 02:15:51 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 19, 2014, 01:58:40 PM
seems everyone got a F/M for Christmas this year.

the forward line is almost as stacked as the midfield now.

have you been naughty? is that why NDS didn't get DPP?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on December 19, 2014, 02:18:38 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 19, 2014, 01:58:40 PM
seems everyone got a F/M for Christmas this year.

the forward line is almost as stacked as the midfield now.
lol JRoo literally got them all in Asians

His starting fwd line
Swan DMart Lids Goddard (Ziebell, Cloke, JRoo, MRobbo)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on December 19, 2014, 02:19:07 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on December 19, 2014, 02:14:48 PM
Starting to get a bit nervous about Clint Jones and James Kelly both getting defensive status given some of the remarks flying around about the lack of people gaining defensive eligibility and the large number losing it!
Clint Jones  :o :P

They'll both most likely be defenders only, then.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on December 19, 2014, 02:22:33 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 19, 2014, 02:18:38 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 19, 2014, 01:58:40 PM
seems everyone got a F/M for Christmas this year.

the forward line is almost as stacked as the midfield now.
lol JRoo literally got them all in Asians

His starting fwd line
Swan DMart Lids Goddard (Ziebell, Cloke, JRoo, MRobbo)
Holy shower  :o


Quote from: JROO8 on December 19, 2014, 02:19:07 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on December 19, 2014, 02:14:48 PM
Starting to get a bit nervous about Clint Jones and James Kelly both getting defensive status given some of the remarks flying around about the lack of people gaining defensive eligibility and the large number losing it!
Clint Jones  :o :P

They'll both most likely be defenders only, then.
I've gotten so used to having them both on my list :P If Clint Jones did return to AFL footy and got defensive status that would be very handy haha

Clint Young I meant. Fair enough mate, cheers
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on December 19, 2014, 04:49:10 PM
Bird kept fwd/mid as well.

That's also very handy. Gives our team a lot more flexibility.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 19, 2014, 07:55:32 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on December 19, 2014, 02:15:51 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 19, 2014, 01:58:40 PM
seems everyone got a F/M for Christmas this year.

the forward line is almost as stacked as the midfield now.

have you been naughty? is that why NDS didn't get DPP?

Happy to let those less fortunate get the gifts. Because I'm that great a guy.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on December 20, 2014, 03:14:57 PM

Because I'm a gluten for punishment

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,99816.0.html
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on December 20, 2014, 03:43:44 PM
A gluten or a glutton? :P Looks cool Oz.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on December 20, 2014, 03:45:05 PM
Quote from: Toga on December 20, 2014, 03:43:44 PM
A gluten or a glutton? :P
Beat me to it hahaha.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on December 20, 2014, 05:38:57 PM
Lol  :-[
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on December 21, 2014, 04:54:10 PM
How did Biggs not get DPP?!

Going to need more defenders next period.

Midfielders and forwards are fine. Another young ruck or two would be great too.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jukes on December 21, 2014, 06:45:30 PM
Somebody trade me an ok ruck who'll play most weeks
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on December 21, 2014, 06:52:41 PM
Quote from: Biff Tannen on December 21, 2014, 06:45:30 PM
Somebody trade me an ok ruck who'll play most weeks

I'll give you both of mine for your one.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on December 21, 2014, 11:34:38 PM
Quote from: Biff Tannen on December 21, 2014, 06:45:30 PM
Somebody trade me an ok ruck who'll play most weeks
Warnock 8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on December 29, 2014, 01:26:09 PM
New Delhi Tigers Squad Breakdown

Best XV

B: Aaron Mullett, Zac Williams, Jarman Impey, Jimmy Webster
M: Chris Masten, Stephen Coniglio, Reece Conca, Andrew Gaff
U: Isaac Heeney, Jack Trengove
R: Tom Nicholls
F: Zac Clarke, Jack Darling, Koby Stevens, Sam Kerridge



Current Reserves

B: Sam Darley, Cameron Giles, Daniel Talia, Simon White, Sam Russell
M:Seb Ross, Nick Robertson, Will Hams, Viv Michie, Brad Walsh, James Harmes,
R:Rob Warnock, Daniel Gorringe, Jack Hannath, Toby Nankervis, Keegan Brooksby, Lewis Pierce
F:Patrick McCartin, Rohan Bail, Tom Curren, Jesse White, Simon Tunbridge, Michael Apeness, Jarrad Grant, Ben Griffiths, Blaine Johnson, Liam Sumner, Riley Knight, Tim O'Brien, Lincoln McCarthy, Ed Langdon



With dpp changes!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on December 29, 2014, 01:41:52 PM
Quote from: elephants on December 29, 2014, 01:26:09 PM
U: Isaac Heeney, Jack Trengove

Always a bit of a worry when you have a first year player and a guy who'll be injured most of the year in your Best XV.

The team's got a bit of promise though - just need a few more seasons to pass.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on December 29, 2014, 02:05:12 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on December 29, 2014, 01:41:52 PM
The team's got a bit of promise though - just need a few more seasons to pass.

Umm, I don't think thats news to anyone aha
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on December 29, 2014, 02:35:28 PM
Wish we had more than 4 movements. :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on December 29, 2014, 02:36:50 PM
We had a couple of movements but none really significant except for Bennell which we are keeping, so I don't think we are doing any trades

I wonder if there is going to be any trades at all?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on December 29, 2014, 03:57:14 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 29, 2014, 02:36:50 PM
We had a couple of movements but none really significant except for Bennell which we are keeping, so I don't think we are doing any trades

I wonder if there is going to be any trades at all?

only the one last year
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on December 29, 2014, 05:10:00 PM
I'll struggle to resist the urge to make one more trade. Wouldn't mind another defender or midfielder.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on December 29, 2014, 05:11:40 PM
we have McGlynn for sale for a defender or forward
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on January 02, 2015, 11:08:49 AM
we need a new coach in AXVIII Supercoach if anybody is interested
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: SydneyRox on January 02, 2015, 05:31:52 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on January 02, 2015, 11:08:49 AM
we need a new coach in AXVIII Supercoach if anybody is interested

Here is the link.

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,99971.0.html
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on January 12, 2015, 04:12:13 PM
SC just nerfed rucks, hurts teams with good rucks.

First mids becoming forwards, rebounding backman staying mid only mans now this. It's the world v Dublin.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on January 12, 2015, 04:15:48 PM
Shane Mumford to still get 3 votes.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Pkbaldy on January 12, 2015, 04:17:14 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 12, 2015, 04:12:13 PM
SC just nerfed rucks, hurts teams with good rucks.

First mids becoming forwards, rebounding backman staying mid only mans now this. It's the world v Dublin.

Surely NDS was never going to be defender status ;) only like  #1 in defensive rebounds mate haha. Clearly not good enough.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on January 12, 2015, 04:17:31 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 12, 2015, 04:12:13 PM
SC just nerfed rucks, hurts teams with good rucks.

First mids becoming forwards, rebounding backman staying mid only mans now this. It's the world v Dublin.

Probably shouldn't have traded Rocky for Gibbs and Sandi :-X
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on January 12, 2015, 04:19:04 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on January 12, 2015, 04:17:14 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 12, 2015, 04:12:13 PM
SC just nerfed rucks, hurts teams with good rucks.

First mids becoming forwards, rebounding backman staying mid only mans now this. It's the world v Dublin.

Surely NDS was never going to be defender status ;) only like  #1 in defensive rebounds mate haha. Clearly not good enough.

27th in rebound in the afl. 39 of the top 40 are defenders. He takes over 50% of the kick ins.

He could be almost defender only.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on January 12, 2015, 04:20:18 PM
Quote from: meow meow on January 12, 2015, 04:17:31 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 12, 2015, 04:12:13 PM
SC just nerfed rucks, hurts teams with good rucks.

First mids becoming forwards, rebounding backman staying mid only mans now this. It's the world v Dublin.

Probably shouldn't have traded Rocky for Gibbs and Sandi :-X

I tried my hardest to save you meow.

It's ok you still get the same points when he is injured and retired.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on February 02, 2015, 01:01:43 PM

Hey guys,

Over the last few months I've found I have had less and less time to even log onto fanfooty. Work is heating up, and with a second kid coming, I just don't see this changing anytime soon.

Because I'm a 'all or nothing' kinda guy, I'm looking at stepping back from fanfooty. I'll still be around, and I'll still be participating, but I don't think I can admin anymore.

So I'll be stepping back from elxam, WXVs and i5s (yes, I know I just created it). I'll still be helping out, particularly at the beginning, but the week-to-week stuff is too much for me anymore.

Purple 77 has agree to take over the Admin side of WXVs. Check his scores for the Brewers though, I'm not sure how impartial he can be. Purps has asked me to help with trade decisions though, and I've stupidly said yes.

I've asked Nige and nrich102 to take over from the i5s, they are yet to reply, but am more than happy to help set up fixtures/stats etc to whoever does take over.

Will be hoping to grab 3 elxam volunteers (one for each comp) to take over also. So PM me if interested. It is a tough job, and takes significant time each week, so be careful when volunteering! I'll make sure to have as much as I can set up to help the incumbent though.

Oz

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on February 02, 2015, 01:19:06 PM
Mr.Burns' ossie85s reign of terror is over.
CROWD: Yay! And today begins my reign of [ALL GASPING] terrific management.
[ALL SIGH THEN CHATTER] - I thought he was gonna say "terror." - I didn't think he was.
Unlike Mr.Burns ossie85, I will respect you, the working-class slob because we are all equals.
And now, as I ascend this crystal staircase to my office I say, avert your gaze.



Seriously though, what ossie has done in the past 4 years being the admin of this comp is amazing. It will be an eternal struggle to keep up his standard, something which I will endeavour to do.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on February 02, 2015, 02:29:15 PM
Can understand Oss - Family and work has to take precedence and I know how time consuming administration can be even with spreadsheets and all the tools available.

What you have done over the past 4 years that I know of has been incredible and wish you well and look forward to you appearances on the forum from time to time.

You can rely on me to double check the Brewers scores  ;)

Well done again Oss and all the best.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on February 02, 2015, 03:20:29 PM
All the best Oss! You've been an absolutely unbelievable admin since the comps inception. So often underapreciated, you'll be hard to replace all the extra effort you go to to make Worlds run smoothly (and exlam).

Quote from: Purple 77 on February 02, 2015, 01:19:06 PM
Mr.Burns' ossie85s reign of terror is over.
CROWD: Yay! And today begins my reign of [ALL GASPING] terrific management.
[ALL SIGH THEN CHATTER] - I thought he was gonna say "terror." - I didn't think he was.
Unlike Mr.Burns ossie85, I will respect you, the working-class slob because we are all equals.
And now, as I ascend this crystal staircase to my office I say, avert your gaze.
Fantastic! Good luck with it Purps  :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on February 02, 2015, 05:00:59 PM
great work ossman you've done a fantastic job and hope this legacy can continue as well as other ones you created

just don't be too much of a stranger mate we will miss you too much ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on February 02, 2015, 05:08:53 PM
I haven't been involved with WXV and Elxam as long as most, but I've always respected you for the amount of effort you put in. To spend so much of your own personal time doing something to make other people happy is a great reflection of the sort of person you are.

Thanks heaps Os :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on February 02, 2015, 05:34:30 PM
Thanks for everything Oz, you do a great job with it all. Good luck with it all!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on February 02, 2015, 06:16:02 PM
Cheers for the last 4 years Oz and all the best with the new addition to the young family!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: AaronKirk on February 02, 2015, 06:22:56 PM
Thanks for everything you have done here Oz.

Unbelievable time and effort you have poured into this. Good luck with the new addition!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jukes on February 02, 2015, 06:27:16 PM
To put it short and sweet,

Oss is GOAT
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on February 02, 2015, 06:43:00 PM
Thanks for everything Os, you've done an amazing job man. Best of luck with the future! ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on February 02, 2015, 09:14:25 PM
Your a legend oss thank you so much for all of your hard work over the years.

WXV and Elxam are my favourite parts of this forum and the time you have put into running such high standard competitions is amazing and I wish you all the best in your busy life and with the two young ones :)

Im with Jukes, oss for GOAT!!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on February 03, 2015, 10:49:32 AM
Along with what everyone else has said mate, thankyou for everything you've done. Its amazing how much you've put into it here and this site is so much better off for it. Thanks mate
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on February 03, 2015, 11:18:41 AM
thanks ossie for all the years and good luck with your real life.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on February 06, 2015, 03:18:28 PM
Hmm, seems this guy was left out in the drafts.

http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/player-profile/jordan-foote (http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/player-profile/jordan-foote)

Never heard of him til now. You can select him in SuperCoach...

Leave him be? Or give him to Cairo (next in line in rookie draft)?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on February 06, 2015, 06:04:35 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 06, 2015, 03:18:28 PM
Hmm, seems this guy was left out in the drafts.

http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/player-profile/jordan-foote (http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/player-profile/jordan-foote)

Never heard of him til now. You can select him in SuperCoach...

Leave him be? Or give him to Cairo (next in line in rookie draft)?
Might as well just leave him because we'd probably delist him first chance we get.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on February 06, 2015, 08:23:50 PM
Quote from: Nige on February 06, 2015, 06:04:35 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 06, 2015, 03:18:28 PM
Hmm, seems this guy was left out in the drafts.

http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/player-profile/jordan-foote (http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/player-profile/jordan-foote)

Never heard of him til now. You can select him in SuperCoach...

Leave him be? Or give him to Cairo (next in line in rookie draft)?
Might as well just leave him because we'd probably delist him first chance we get.

Well yeah, plus I feel the drafting periods are well and truly over and he has missed the boat.

Also, I'm a nice admin... I wouldn't be so cruel and send him to play at Cairo...  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on February 06, 2015, 08:28:50 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 06, 2015, 08:23:50 PM
Quote from: Nige on February 06, 2015, 06:04:35 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 06, 2015, 03:18:28 PM
Hmm, seems this guy was left out in the drafts.

http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/player-profile/jordan-foote (http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/player-profile/jordan-foote)

Never heard of him til now. You can select him in SuperCoach...

Leave him be? Or give him to Cairo (next in line in rookie draft)?
Might as well just leave him because we'd probably delist him first chance we get.

Well yeah, plus I feel the drafting periods are well and truly over and he has missed the boat.

Also, I'm a nice admin... I wouldn't be so cruel and send him to play at Cairo...  :P
I'm not even mad. I'm sure he'd enjoy the sands of Cairo.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on February 06, 2015, 09:06:25 PM
Toronto will happily take him, no-one wants to be the last kid left at lunchtime when everybody's picking teams, even worse being sent to the library because everyone's teams are full and the new administrator says you're not allowed to join in!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on February 06, 2015, 09:11:35 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on February 06, 2015, 09:06:25 PM
Toronto will happily take him, no-one wants to be the last kid left at lunchtime when everybody's picking teams, even worse being sent to the library because everyone's teams are full and the new administrator says you're not allowed to join in!
I should be more sympathetic, I was once that kid.  :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on February 07, 2015, 09:27:19 AM
Quote from: roo boys! on February 06, 2015, 09:06:25 PM
Toronto will happily take him, no-one wants to be the last kid left at lunchtime when everybody's picking teams, even worse being sent to the library because everyone's teams are full and the new administrator says you're not allowed to join in!

Seeing as your next in line after Cairo, think I'm fine with that.

I shall put Foote as your 6th rookie rb 
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on February 07, 2015, 09:49:35 AM
Nek minnit, Foote averages 150.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on February 07, 2015, 10:28:56 AM
Nige would have a Foote in his mouth if that happens.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on February 07, 2015, 11:02:14 AM
Quote from: Hellopplz on February 07, 2015, 10:28:56 AM
Nige would have a Foote in his mouth if that happens.
or someone else up his ass :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on February 07, 2015, 05:59:49 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 07, 2015, 09:27:19 AM
Quote from: roo boys! on February 06, 2015, 09:06:25 PM
Toronto will happily take him, no-one wants to be the last kid left at lunchtime when everybody's picking teams, even worse being sent to the library because everyone's teams are full and the new administrator says you're not allowed to join in!

Seeing as your next in line after Cairo, think I'm fine with that.

I shall put Foote as your 6th rookie rb
Thanks mate. You never know who could come from nowhere in this game!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on February 07, 2015, 06:00:28 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on February 07, 2015, 05:59:49 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 07, 2015, 09:27:19 AM
Quote from: roo boys! on February 06, 2015, 09:06:25 PM
Toronto will happily take him, no-one wants to be the last kid left at lunchtime when everybody's picking teams, even worse being sent to the library because everyone's teams are full and the new administrator says you're not allowed to join in!

Seeing as your next in line after Cairo, think I'm fine with that.

I shall put Foote as your 6th rookie rb
Thanks mate. You never know who could come from nowhere in this game!

Indeed! I love the Blicavs story... prime example!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on February 23, 2015, 12:34:08 PM
Hey all,

With the nab challenge games starting Thursday, was wondering if people wanted a pre-season comp?

I for one can't really run it, so would look for volunteers if someone wanted to take it on.

I'm not too sure whether SC scores will be made available when the games are completed, so maybe it would have to be DT based.



I'm not fussed one way or the other about a pre-season comp personally.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on February 23, 2015, 12:41:36 PM
Nice suggestion, but probably not really worth the effort

Pretty sure we might struggle to get SC scores until a bit later, and not interested in DT scores :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: AaronKirk on February 23, 2015, 03:11:34 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 23, 2015, 12:41:36 PM
Nice suggestion, but probably not really worth the effort

Pretty sure we might struggle to get SC scores until a bit later, and not interested in DT scores :P

I would have to concur with RD here Purps.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on February 23, 2015, 03:30:09 PM
Agree not really worth it unless we can get SC scores reasonably quickly.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on February 23, 2015, 04:46:44 PM
Yeah I was feeling along those lines too
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: AaronKirk on February 28, 2015, 09:20:35 PM
Hope Libba's ok  :'(

#NoLibbaNoNewYork
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 01, 2015, 12:25:07 PM
Put a line through New York for 2015  :'(

After such a successful off season as well  :'( :'(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on March 01, 2015, 12:27:00 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 01, 2015, 12:25:07 PM
Put a line through New York for 2015  :'(

After such a successful off season as well  :'( :'(
If you guys can't put together a successful season with all the work you guys did with the list in the offseason you should probably give up haha.

I don't think Libba going down will hurt you guys that much.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on March 01, 2015, 03:24:39 PM
Quote from: Nige on March 01, 2015, 12:27:00 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 01, 2015, 12:25:07 PM
Put a line through New York for 2015  :'(

After such a successful off season as well  :'( :'(
If you guys can't put together a successful season with all the work you guys did with the list in the offseason you should probably give up haha.

I don't think Libba going down will hurt you guys that much.

He's like the one guy you kept too, very unlucky  :(

Actually, he is one of 10 players that survived the RD/AK cut of '14

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: SinnerZ on March 01, 2015, 07:28:01 PM
Hey guys,

Really interested in taking up an assistant coaching role for any team that could use an extra hand.

I think i could really help out a team, although i just started on FanFooty, i have been playing AFL fantasy and Supercoach ever since it was created, might be a bit late but very keen.

PM me if your interested

Thanks
SinnerZ
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on March 13, 2015, 03:50:37 PM
I wasn't gonna do this, but it's a friday afternoon, got home from uni... if I didn't do this, I would have procrastinated in another form.


Seeing as the supercoach scores have been coming out pretty quickly, I thought it would be interesting to see how our teams would have performed if we had a pre-season comp. As I said, I was gonna do this, but curiosity got the better of me.


So I recorded each score, and took the best 15 scorers from each club, regardless of position, and no captains. And the results are interesting!

All scores were taken from FF live scoring, so hopefully they are accurate. They are also taken from the first games of each AFL club.

Gotta give it to New York, they were a step above! And will we finally see the lightning after hearing about the thunder for so long this year?

And sorry nige, I gotta say it, #NoMummyNoCairo



















New York Revolution1501
Beijing Thunder1398
Tokyo Samurai1379
Cape Town Cobras1328
PNL Reindeers1321
Mexico City Suns1319
London Royals1294
Pacific Islanders1290
Christchurch Saints1255
Moscow Spetsnaz1253
Seoul Magpies1228
New Delhi Tigers1227
Berlin Brewers1160
Rio de Janeiro Jaguars1119
Dublin Destroyers1113
Toronto Wolves1112
Buenos Aires Armadillos1097
Cairo Sands1007
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on March 13, 2015, 03:52:53 PM
And for the people curious to see how their boys went in their first nab game

Beijing   
Eddie Betts   164
Lachie Neale   127
Maverick Weller   108
Harry Taylor   101
Oliver Wines   97
Ben Kennedy   89
Liam Shiels   87
Brodie Grundy   85
Kane Lambert   85
Danny Stanley   82
Cameron Wood   80
Matthew Jaensch   76
Tom Bell   76
Touk Miller   71
Sam Gray   70
Josh Caddy   66
Travis Varcoe   65
Luke Brown   63
Thomas Jonas   61
Cameron Shenton   57
Michael Talia   57
Alipate Carlile   54
James Aish   52
Timothy Broomhead   52
Phil Davis   50
Daniel Howe   49
Chris Dawes   46
Matt Jones   46
Tom Clurey   45
Sam Mayes   44
Malcolm Karpany   6
   
Berlin Brewers   
Jarryn Geary   152
Brad Crouch   127
Will Langford   97
Lewis Jetta   85
Daniel Cross   84
Jack Redpath   82
Marco Paparone   79
Xavier Ellis   75
Ricky Petterd   64
Drew Petrie   59
Ben Sinclair   55
Dylan Grimes   55
Jesse Lonergan   52
Max Gawn   49
James Podsiadly   45
Jack Grimes   43
Luke McGuane   41
Mark Jamar   41
Jack Steven   40
Colin Garland   36
Jay Kennedy-Harris   36
Jacob Townsend   24
Jordan Murdoch   18
   
Buenos Aires Armadillos   
Mitch Wallis   120
Patrick Karnezis   95
Lin Jong   89
Rohan Bewick   88
Taylor Adams   83
Easton Wood   76
Ben Lennon   73
Jordan De Goey   66
Jay Schulz   66
Nathan Wilson   65
Jackson Ramsay   64
Justin Clarke   57
Ben Newton   55
Michael Close   50
Dennis Armfield   50
Shaun Atley   49
Nicholas Graham   48
John Butcher   46
Liam Jones   41
Jason Tutt   34
Tyson Goldsack   33
Xavier Richards   31
Lindsay Thomas   30
Jake Neade   29
Tim Membrey   28
Dale Morris   25
   
Cairo Sands   
Dayne Beams   118
Matthew Arnot   95
Tom Downie   79
Alex Woodward   73
Chris Knights   69
Jake Batchelor   69
Luke Breust   65
Jeremy McGovern   65
Jeremy Laidler   64
Karl Amon   57
Jack Lonie   54
Ben Stratton   53
Eric MacKenzie   53
Dallas Willsmore   51
Nathan Gordon   42
Jake Long   37
Nick Smith   36
Sam Dwyer   27
Ben Brown   20
Sam Rowe   18
Connor Blakely   8
   
Cape Town Cobras   
Shaun Higgins   136
Edward Curnow   121
Nick Haynes   121
Dom Tyson   106
Shane Savage   102
Josh P Kennedy   93
Nicholas O'Brien   83
Darcy Lang   83
Jasper Pittard   76
Tom Hawkins   74
Lachie Hunter   72
Dean Kent   69
Mitch Honeychurch   67
Jeremy Cameron   63
Brandon Jack   62
Cameron O'Shea   58
Billy Longer   54
Mark Blicavs   53
Jimmy Toumpas   50
Cameron McCarthy   47
Jaden McGrath   46
Nathan Drummond   45
Craig Bird   45
Billie Smedts   44
Trent Dumont   42
Matthew Dick   35
Jake Kelly   33
Gary Rohan   19
Sam B Reid   -4
   
Christchurch Saints   
Sam Mitchell   124
Luke Shuey   112
Joel Patfull   110
Liam Picken   104
Matthew Boyd   94
Dayne Zorko   86
Will Minson   84
Jamie Elliott   80
Jake Stringer   77
Dylan Roberton   73
Jeff Garlett   67
Joshua Green   65
Aaron Vandenberg   62
Tory Dickson   61
Nathan Freeman   56
Shaun McKernan   55
Sean Dempster   52
Matthew Buntine   51
Ryan Lester   50
Kyle Langford   37
Nathan Hrovat   30
Harris Andrews   26
Jack Steele   19
Hamish Hartlett   14
Harrison Wigg   12
Dillon Viojo-Rainbow   3
   
Dublin Destroyers   
Majak Daw   131
Travis Boak   111
Jack Gunston   107
Tom McDonald   99
Nick Dal Santo   89
Michael Walters   87
Rory Sloane   75
Robert Murphy   61
Nathan van Berlo   59
Daniel Currie   58
Sam Frost   57
Josh Bruce   56
David Mundy   52
Ciaran Byrne   36
Neville Jetta   35
Daniel Butler   34
Max Warren   28
Jason Holmes   21
Tanner Smith   6
   
London Royals   
Mark LeCras   115
Jonathan Giles   111
Heritier Lumumba   109
Callum Sinclair   102
Dane Rampe   95
Zach Tuohy   93
Bradley Sheppard   89
Andrew Moore   88
Chris Mayne   86
Will Hoskin-Elliott   79
Dan Hannebery   78
Dean Towers   70
Adam Saad   67
Matt Shaw   57
Billy Hartung   55
Tom Lonergan   53
Lachlan Dalgleish   52
Josh Hill   51
Scott McMahon   50
Cory Gregson   44
Kyle Hartigan   42
Daniel McStay   41
Archie Smith   36
Michael Luxford   26
Darcy Gardiner   19
Brent Staker   16
Daniel Nielson   7
Kaiden Brand   0
   
Mexico City Suns   
Jimmy Bartel   148
Michael Johnson   116
Matthew Stokes   113
Paul Stewart   104
Shaun Hampson   104
Bradley Ebert   99
Steele Sidebottom   96
Tom Rockliff   87
Daniel Wells   75
Cameron Ellis-Yolmen   73
Taylor Hunt   69
Brent Harvey   66
Matthew McDonough   61
Sam Siggins   56
James Sicily   52
Daniel Robinson   52
Kade Simpson   50
Shaun Grigg   49
Shannon Hurn   49
Blake Acres   46
Nathan Krakouer   42
Liam McBean   35
Adam Oxley   34
Joshua Prudden   24
   
Moscow Spetsnaz   
Robbie Gray   169
Clancee Pearce   118
Callan Ward   109
David Armitage   109
Corey Gault   107
Levi Greenwood   84
Dominic Sheed   73
Josh Thomas   68
Ryan Bastinac   68
Jesse Hogan   65
Hayden Ballantyne   64
Keenan Ramsey   59
Sam Docherty   58
Jared Hardisty   51
Jonathan Simpkin   51
Luke McDonald   51
Josh Jenkins   49
Nick Vlastuin   46
Tom Lee   46
Tyrone Vickery   45
James Frawley   42
Lynden Dunn   42
Marc Pittonet   7
   
New Delhi Tigers   
Chris Masten   117
Simon White   103
Stephen Coniglio   97
Andrew Gaff   95
Jesse White   93
Koby Stevens   86
Viv Michie   80
Sam Kerridge   79
Simon Tunbridge   75
Sebastian Ross   73
Rohan Bail   71
Zachary Clarke   67
Zachary Williams   66
Isaac Heeney   63
Patrick McCartin   62
Daniel Talia   57
Keegan Brooksby   53
Jarrad Grant   47
Jarman Impey   42
Daniel Gorringe   29
Toby Nankervis   29
Michael Apeness   13
Tom Curren   11
Blaine Johnson   5
   
New York Revolution   
Josh J Kennedy   131
Jackson Macrae   130
Jed Adcock   117
Alex Sexton   111
Matt Rosa   109
Sam Fisher   108
Heath Grundy   102
Jarrad Waite   101
Leigh Montagna   100
Mitch Duncan   96
Harley Bennell   88
Kade Kolodjashnij   84
Sharrod Wellingham   83
Paul Duffield   75
Hayden Crozier   66
Nathan Brown   62
Teia Miles   59
Nakia Cockatoo   55
Todd Elton   54
Dawson Simpson   49
Mike Pyke   47
Jamie Bennell   46
Dylan Buckley   29
Patrick McGinnity   26
Matthew White   24
Tom Liberatore   24
Padraig Lucey   17
Tom Lamb   13
   
Pacific Islanders   
Matthew Taberner   111
Michael Rischitelli   106
Adam Tomlinson   104
Jarryd Lyons   96
Alex Fasolo   93
Marcus Bontempelli   91
Rory Laird   85
Tomas Bugg   85
Curtly Hampton   82
Cameron Guthrie   81
Tom Mitchell   75
Claye Beams   74
Mitchell Grigg   72
Matthew Leuenberger   72
Jed Lamb   63
Jack Redden   60
Joel Tippett   60
Sam Gibson   58
Joel Hamling   57
Brodie Martin   56
Michael Barlow   48
Matthew de Boer   42
Jake Kolodjashnij   40
Lee Spurr   30
   
PNL Reindeers   
Dylan Shiel   126
Matt Priddis   126
Mitch Hallahan   100
Nathan Jones   99
Daniel Rich   97
Matthew Lobbe   95
Marley Williams   91
Farren Ray   86
Corey Enright   85
Jarrod Garlett   80
Elliott Kavanagh   71
Justin Westhoff   71
Luke McPharlin   66
Levi Casboult   65
Jarrod Harbrow   63
Luke Delaney   57
Thomas Sheridan   49
Sebastian Tape   44
Nick Malceski   42
Connor McKenna   30
Jed Bews   28
Matthew Watson   26
Tom T Lynch   23
Jonathon Griffin   21
Sam Naismith   17
Brad McKenzie   16
Jack Billings   0
   
Rio de Janeiro Jaguars   
Lewis Taylor   109
Kane Cornes   101
Stephen Hill   98
Tendai Mzungu   93
Alex Silvagni   89
Ben Jacobs   80
Patrick Cripps   78
Matthew Wright   74
Elliot Yeo   74
Paul Chapman   68
Mitch Clark   66
Taylor Walker   59
Andrew Mackie   47
Reece McKenzie   42
Ahmed Saad   41
Shane Kersten   39
Jermaine Miller-Lewis   35
Robbie Tarrant   32
Louis Herbert   23
   
Seoul Magpies   
Taylor Duryea   118
Jed Anderson   110
Jack Newnes   100
Thomas Boyd   98
Tom Langdon   92
Lachie Whitfield   91
Cameron Sutcliffe   81
Ben McEvoy   78
Toby Greene   73
Jason Ashby   72
Tom J Lynch   72
Joshua Kelly   71
Jackson Nelson   61
Sam Grimley   56
Jordan Roughead   55
Brandon Matera   54
David Swallow   51
Jonathon Ceglar   51
Jason Castagna   51
Eli Templeton   51
Trent McKenzie   48
Kane Lucas   46
Christian Salem   40
Blaine Boekhorst   29
Ben McGlynn   27
   
Tokyo Samurai   
Zac Smith   127
Kieran Jack   116
Chris Yarran   103
Jackson Merrett   101
Luke Dahlhaus   100
Luke Parker   91
Jamie Cripps   91
Steven Motlop   90
Scott Lycett   89
Anthony Miles   85
Aaron Young   82
Kristian Jaksch   80
Adam Kennedy   77
Nick Suban   76
Martin Gleeson   71
Sam Lloyd   66
Andrew Phillips   63
Harry Cunningham   58
Reilly O'Brien   54
Jason Johannisen   53
Greg Broughton   52
Aidan Corr   47
Charlie Cameron   46
Jack Frost   38
Lewis Melican   33
Dean Gore   32
Jordie McKenzie   32
Ricky Henderson   31
Tom Fields   26
Clem Smith   17
Connor Menadue   11
   
Toronto Wolves   
Ryan Griffen   161
James Kelly   95
Jamie MacMillan   93
Jack Ziebell   89
Rhyce Shaw   81
Ben Cunnington   80
Shaun Edwards   79
Matthew Pavlich   73
Kayne Turner   68
Kane Mitchell   65
Steven Morris   52
Angus Litherland   47
Jack Crisp   45
Mitch Robinson   44
Daniel Merrett   40
Jack Leslie   40
Josh Hall   40
Jayden Short   38
Brendon Ah Chee   31
Alan Toovey   29
Jack Hiscox   29
Henry Schade   25
Ciaran Sheehan   23
Cameron Pedersen   17
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 13, 2015, 04:00:52 PM
As flattering as that is for us, especially without Libba, unfortunately the better teams rested a lot of their best players who didn't play
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on March 13, 2015, 04:27:02 PM
Well... I guess a plus is that two of our new recruits were in our top three scorers.  :P

Without actually counting, it looks like we had the least playing too, which I guess contributed.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on March 13, 2015, 05:26:05 PM
Interesting! Good stuff Purps
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on March 13, 2015, 07:33:32 PM
Nice stuff Purps. All I'm hoping from Toronto's perspective is that Griffen can sustain 161 every week :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on March 14, 2015, 10:47:18 AM
Awesome stuff Purps!

Higgins, Curnow and Haynes having stellar pre-seasons ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on March 15, 2015, 01:29:29 AM
basically Dublins whole starting 15 is resting up for the real stuff.

very happy with Tmac though, he is pushing hard to fight his way into the 15.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on March 16, 2015, 11:45:07 AM
And just because I can, I did round 2 as well.

Best XV taken, no captains... love seeing Berlin up there, even if it doesn't matter  8)

Round 2         Score
Mexico City Suns           1456
Berlin Brewers      1434
Tokyo Samurai      1388
London Royals      1384
Cape Town Cobras   1367
New York Revolution   1343
Beijing Thunder      1303
Seoul Magpies      1294
Rio de Janeiro Jaguars   1277
Christchurch Saints   1201
Moscow Spetsnaz      1189
Buenos Aires Armadillos   1162
PNL Reindeers      1160
Dublin Destroyers           1150
Toronto Wolves      1112
Cairo Sands              1101
New Delhi Tigers           1039
Pacific Islanders           1030
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on March 16, 2015, 11:45:37 AM
#notonthebottom
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on March 16, 2015, 11:47:58 AM
Quote from: Nige on March 16, 2015, 11:45:37 AM
#notonthebottom
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on March 16, 2015, 11:49:42 AM
And the proof.

Beijing Thunder   
Lachie Neale   154
Harry Taylor   135
Josh Caddy   108
James Aish   98
Jared Polec   84
Cameron Shenton   83
Eddie Betts   81
Tom Bell   80
Maverick Weller   79
Tom Clurey   71
Touk Miller   71
Chris Dawes   68
Danny Stanley   65
Liam Shiels   64
Luke Brown   62
Sam Mayes   61
Matt Jones   60
Ted Richards   60
Phil Davis   51
Kane Lambert   50
Ben Kennedy   49
Brodie Grundy   43
James Stewart   43
Timothy Broomhead   41
Malcolm Karpany   36
Daniel Howe   33
Sam Gray   29
Travis Varcoe   28
Michael Talia   22
Mitchell Harvey   21
Aaron Black   12
Jarred Ellis   4
Roarke Smith   3
   
Berlin Brewers   
Nat Fyfe   133
Jack Steven   124
Daniel Cross   123
Jay Kennedy-Harris   120
Adam Treloar   115
Brad Crouch   111
Colin Garland   88
Josh Saunders   86
Jack Viney   84
Marco Paparone   80
Jarryn Geary   79
Jack Grimes   78
Max Gawn   76
Lewis Jetta   72
Ben Sinclair   65
Dylan Grimes   65
Darren Minchington   61
Jesse Lonergan   51
Xavier Ellis   46
Kyle Cheney   45
Mark Jamar   44
Ricky Petterd   42
Jordan Murdoch   41
Jack Redpath   37
Jack Watts   34
James Podsiadly   32
Drew Petrie   19
   
Buenos Aires Armadillos   
Lindsay Thomas   111
Rohan Bewick   100
Ben Newton   84
Troy Chaplin   80
Brett Goodes   79
Tyson Goldsack   79
Bradley Hill   78
Ben Lennon   77
Lin Jong   76
Tim Membrey   72
Nathan Wilson   70
Jason Tutt   68
Sean Lemmens   67
Jake Neade   62
Michael Close   59
Robin Nahas   51
Dale Morris   45
Jordan De Goey   44
Liam Jones   44
Patrick Karnezis   44
Shaun Atley   40
Justin Clarke   34
Tom Cutler   30
Jackson Ramsay   27
John Butcher   21
Xavier Richards   8
   
Cairo Sands   
Jack Lonie   105
Shane Mumford   99
Dayne Beams   84
Rhys Palmer   84
Sam Rowe   77
Nick Smith   76
Luke Dunstan   75
Luke Breust   74
Brodie Smith   72
Karl Amon   70
Ben Stratton   69
Connor Blakely   61
Hugh Goddard   56
Jake Batchelor   52
Nathan Gordon   47
Alex Woodward   45
Paul Puopolo   38
Jeremy Laidler   35
Jeremy McGovern   30
Sam Dwyer   27
Tom Downie   12
Ben Brown   10
   
Cape Town Cobras   
Josh P Kennedy   153
Cameron McCarthy   118
James Gwilt   109
Jimmy Toumpas   108
Craig Bird   101
Dom Tyson   97
Andrejs Everitt   95
Edward Curnow   86
Stefan Martin   83
Mitch Honeychurch   80
Mark Blicavs   79
Tom Hawkins   68
Cameron O'Shea   67
Nicholas O'Brien   62
Gary Rohan   61
George Horlin-Smith   56
Jeremy Cameron   53
Adam Cooney   52
Billie Smedts   51
Jasper Pittard   49
Darcy Lang   42
Brandon Jack   34
Jake Kelly   34
Johann Wagner   34
Billy Longer   32
Jaden McGrath   28
Brant Colledge   25
   
Christchurch Saints   
Jeff Garlett   118
Dayne Zorko   112
Matthew Boyd   106
Joshua Green   105
Matthew Buntine   90
Jack Steele   87
Jake Stringer   86
Luke Shuey   82
Ryan Lester   82
Kyle Langford   78
Sean Dempster   70
Sam Mitchell   66
Will Minson   45
Tory Dickson   43
Toby McLean   31
Bryce Gibbs   18
Aaron Vandenberg   8
Shaun McKernan   5
Mason Cox   3
   
Dublin Destroyers   
Dustin Martin   149
Tom McDonald   108
Neville Jetta   90
Tanner Smith   85
Joel Selwood   82
Jack Gunston   80
Rory Sloane   79
David Mundy   71
Alex Rance   66
Todd Goldstein   63
Ciaran Byrne   59
Nathan van Berlo   58
Josh Bruce   56
Michael Walters   54
Jarrad Redden   50
Jarryd Roughead   50
Lance Franklin   44
Jason Holmes   40
Sam Frost   34
Majak Daw   32
Dougal Howard   29
Andrew Boston   -1
   
London Royals   
Shane Edwards   128
Dan Hannebery   124
Bradley Sheppard   116
Heritier Lumumba   110
Lachlan Dalgleish   106
Dean Towers   90
Sam Wright   87
Chris Mayne   83
Tom Lonergan   83
Daniel McStay   82
Zach Tuohy   81
Mark LeCras   78
Darcy Gardiner   76
Dane Rampe   71
Adam Saad   69
Billy Hartung   64
Jonathan Giles   40
Andrew Moore   36
Cory Gregson   34
Matt Shaw   32
Troy Menzel   31
Declan Hamilton   26
Brent Staker   24
Kyle Hartigan   19
David Mackay   14
   
Mexico City Suns   
Jimmy Bartel   126
Jordan Lewis   116
Cameron Ellis-Yolmen   107
Brian Lake   105
Taylor Hunt   103
Scott D Thompson   99
Tom Rockliff   98
Matthew Broadbent   97
Michael Johnson   95
Adam Oxley   90
Ivan Maric   87
Shaun Grigg   87
Paul Stewart   84
Brett Deledio   82
Daniel Robinson   80
Brendon Goddard   79
Kade Simpson   78
Nathan Krakouer   78
Kamdyn McIntosh   71
Matthew Stokes   65
Brent Harvey   53
Blake Acres   46
Bailey Dale   37
Josh Glenn   34
Darcy Byrne-Jones   30
Jake Barrett   27
Jesse Palmer   20
Liam McBean   12
Joshua Prudden   6
   
Moscow Spetsnaz   
Ryan Bastinac   104
Lynden Dunn   97
Levi Greenwood   95
Tyrone Vickery   92
Fraser McInnes   88
Sam Docherty   86
Corey Gault   85
Nick Vlastuin   85
Josh Thomas   81
David Armitage   72
Jack Hombsch   69
Dominic Sheed   65
Joe Daniher   64
Michael Jamison   56
James Frawley   50
Jack Sinclair   47
Jesse Hogan   42
Josh Jenkins   42
Clancee Pearce   30
Marc Pittonet   14
Hayden Ballantyne   10
   
New Delhi Tigers   
Stephen Coniglio   120
Simon White   117
Andrew Gaff   91
Sebastian Ross   88
Reece Conca   84
Zachary Clarke   80
Robert Warnock   64
Daniel Talia   63
Isaac Heeney   59
Daniel Gorringe   55
Jarrad Grant   51
Sam Darley   49
Zachary Williams   47
Keegan Brooksby   36
Viv Michie   35
Simon Tunbridge   34
Tom Nicholls   32
Rohan Bail   26
Patrick McCartin   25
Sam Russell   14
Toby Nankervis   12
Michael Apeness   10
   
New York Revolution   
Josh Gibson   160
Leigh Montagna   110
Heath Shaw   105
Harley Bennell   104
Nathan Brown   97
Mitch Duncan   89
Mike Pyke   87
Michael Firrito   83
Kade Kolodjashnij   82
Matt Rosa   82
Tom Lamb   82
Nakia Cockatoo   77
Heath Grundy   64
Josh J Kennedy   63
Jed Adcock   58
Daniel Pearce   45
Matthew White   44
Hayden Crozier   41
Jarrad Waite   41
Travis Cloke   40
Dawson Simpson   33
Jamie Bennell   32
Sharrod Wellingham   32
Orazio Fantasia   28
Patrick McGinnity   24
Todd Elton   12
   
Pacific Islanders   
Rory Laird   101
Tom Mitchell   78
Jarryd Blair   77
Jed Lamb   77
Claye Beams   73
Jack Redden   73
Sam Gibson   72
Tomas Bugg   66
Tom Logan   63
Alex Fasolo   62
Marcus Bontempelli   62
Devon Smith   61
Matthew de Boer   57
Cameron Guthrie   55
Joel Hamling   53
Curtly Hampton   50
Jarryd Lyons   49
Sam Blease   48
Matthew Leuenberger   44
Adam Tomlinson   40
Brodie Martin   37
Mitchell Grigg   36
Jack Martin   35
Adam Goodes   30
Joel Tippett   26
Liam Duggan   10
   
PNL Reindeers   
Matt Priddis   135
Nathan Jones   126
Tom T Lynch   101
Daniel Rich   78
Ayce Cordy   75
Nick Malceski   74
Luke Hodge   73
Sebastian Tape   71
Brad McKenzie   69
Zachary Merrett   66
Dane Swan   63
Cyril Rioli   61
Levi Casboult   61
Luke Delaney   60
Jordan Kelly   47
Marley Williams   47
Thomas Sheridan   46
Tim Golds   36
Jonathon Griffin   35
Tom Campbell   35
Sam Naismith   34
Elliott Kavanagh   33
Jed Bews   29
Jarrod Garlett   24
Corey Enright   10
   
Rio de Janeiro Jaguars   
Mitch Clark   160
Bachar Houli   115
Andrew Mackie   114
Patrick Cripps   106
Jack Riewoldt   104
Alex Silvagni   84
Robbie Tarrant   83
Lewis Taylor   75
Ahmed Saad   72
David Hale   65
Matthew Wright   64
Ben Jacobs   60
Elliot Yeo   60
Taylor Walker   58
David Zaharakis   57
Jonathan O'Rourke   56
Tendai Mzungu   42
Sam Jacobs   41
Mason Wood   38
Stephen Hill   25
Max Duffy   24
Shane Kersten   16
   
Seoul Magpies   
Christian Salem   132
Patrick Dangerfield   125
Brandon Ellis   111
David Swallow   99
Jake Lloyd   88
Toby Greene   86
Lachie Whitfield   83
Jack Newnes   81
Trent McKenzie   77
Blaine Boekhorst   76
Jason Ashby   70
Jed Anderson   69
Tom Langdon   69
Nathan Wright   66
Caleb Daniel   62
Lukas Webb   59
Cameron Sutcliffe   46
Eli Templeton   46
Kane Lucas   45
Taylor Duryea   39
Jackson Nelson   37
Jonathon Ceglar   37
Tom J Lynch   33
Brandon Matera   32
Lachlan Weller   19
   
Tokyo Samurai   
Luke Parker   144
Chris Yarran   137
Andrew Carrazzo   110
Chris Judd   104
Nick Suban   104
Kristian Jaksch   98
Aaron Young   86
Kieran Jack   83
Martin Gleeson   80
Sam Lloyd   78
Matt Suckling   75
Jared Rivers   74
Garrick Ibbotson   73
Shaun Burgoyne   72
Harry Cunningham   70
Patrick Ambrose   68
Scott Lycett   66
Jackson Merrett   64
Steven Motlop   61
Jamie Cripps   57
Liam Dawson   57
Greg Broughton   52
Anthony Miles   51
Adam Kennedy   50
Reilly O'Brien   46
Andrew Phillips   43
Zac Smith   42
Aidan Corr   36
Clem Smith   28
Jason Johannisen   26
Jordie McKenzie   25
Charlie Cameron   9
Mitchell J Brown   9
   
Toronto Wolves   
Daniel Merrett   99
Ben Cunnington   96
Andrew Swallow   95
Jack Crisp   89
Kane Mitchell   82
Sam Butler   78
Jack Ziebell   76
Jamie MacMillan   71
Scott Pendlebury   70
Kayne Turner   68
Lachlan Henderson   64
Alan Toovey   62
Brendon Ah Chee   62
Leigh Adams   55
Rhyce Shaw   45
Richard Douglas   43
Isaac Smith   36
Matthew Pavlich   36
James Kelly   34
Shaun Edwards   34
Tom Hickey   33
Jack Leslie   32
Steven Morris   22
Mitch Robinson   12
Josh Hall   7
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on March 16, 2015, 12:12:28 PM
Lonie you superstar!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on March 16, 2015, 12:16:30 PM

Reckon the team that scores the most over the NAB cup should be the preseason premier?

Doing a great job Purps
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on March 16, 2015, 12:16:55 PM
Simon White has posted back-to-back tons at an average of 110.

This 26 year old premium defender is coming into his prime and is available for a forward or midfielder with a similar average only.

Thanks. (:p)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on March 16, 2015, 12:24:02 PM
Quote from: elephants on March 16, 2015, 12:16:55 PM
Simon White has posted back-to-back tons at an average of 110.

This 26 year old premium defender is coming into his prime and is available for a forward or midfielder with a similar average only.

Thanks. (:p)
Don't you have like no defensive depth though...?  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on March 16, 2015, 12:27:08 PM
Quote from: Nige on March 16, 2015, 12:24:02 PM
Quote from: elephants on March 16, 2015, 12:16:55 PM
Simon White has posted back-to-back tons at an average of 110.

This 26 year old premium defender is coming into his prime and is available for a forward or midfielder with a similar average only.

Thanks. (:p)
Don't you have like no defensive depth though...?  :P
"Attacking" like flower until Mullett gets back on the park
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on March 16, 2015, 12:27:23 PM
Quote from: elephants on March 16, 2015, 12:16:55 PM
Simon White has posted back-to-back tons at an average of 110.

This 26 year old premium defender is coming into his prime and is available for a forward or midfielder with a similar average only.

Thanks. (:p)

Just poking my head in... but isn't trading over?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on March 16, 2015, 12:29:02 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on March 16, 2015, 12:27:23 PM
Quote from: elephants on March 16, 2015, 12:16:55 PM
Simon White has posted back-to-back tons at an average of 110.

This 26 year old premium defender is coming into his prime and is available for a forward or midfielder with a similar average only.

Thanks. (:p)

Just poking my head in... but isn't trading over?
Getting in early while he has market value I think.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on March 16, 2015, 12:30:13 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on March 16, 2015, 12:27:08 PM
Quote from: Nige on March 16, 2015, 12:24:02 PM
Quote from: elephants on March 16, 2015, 12:16:55 PM
Simon White has posted back-to-back tons at an average of 110.

This 26 year old premium defender is coming into his prime and is available for a forward or midfielder with a similar average only.

Thanks. (:p)
Don't you have like no defensive depth though...?  :P
"Attacking" like flower until Mullett gets back on the park

^

Quote from: ossie85 on March 16, 2015, 12:27:23 PM
Quote from: elephants on March 16, 2015, 12:16:55 PM
Simon White has posted back-to-back tons at an average of 110.

This 26 year old premium defender is coming into his prime and is available for a forward or midfielder with a similar average only.

Thanks. (:p)

Just poking my head in... but isn't trading over?

What Purps doesn't know, won't hurt him... :-X
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on March 16, 2015, 12:35:37 PM
Quote from: elephants on March 16, 2015, 12:30:13 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on March 16, 2015, 12:27:08 PM
Quote from: Nige on March 16, 2015, 12:24:02 PM
Quote from: elephants on March 16, 2015, 12:16:55 PM
Simon White has posted back-to-back tons at an average of 110.

This 26 year old premium defender is coming into his prime and is available for a forward or midfielder with a similar average only.

Thanks. (:p)
Don't you have like no defensive depth though...?  :P
"Attacking" like flower until Mullett gets back on the park

^
The feels when Mullett misses more than 3 weeks and you've used your attack quota. :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on March 16, 2015, 12:38:16 PM
Quote from: Nige on March 16, 2015, 12:35:37 PM
Quote from: elephants on March 16, 2015, 12:30:13 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on March 16, 2015, 12:27:08 PM
Quote from: Nige on March 16, 2015, 12:24:02 PM
Quote from: elephants on March 16, 2015, 12:16:55 PM
Simon White has posted back-to-back tons at an average of 110.

This 26 year old premium defender is coming into his prime and is available for a forward or midfielder with a similar average only.

Thanks. (:p)
Don't you have like no defensive depth though...?  :P
"Attacking" like flower until Mullett gets back on the park

^
The feels when Mullett misses more than 3 weeks and you've used your attack quota. :P

flower quotas I do what I want
:p
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on March 16, 2015, 12:41:18 PM
Quote from: elephants on March 16, 2015, 12:38:16 PM
Quote from: Nige on March 16, 2015, 12:35:37 PM
Quote from: elephants on March 16, 2015, 12:30:13 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on March 16, 2015, 12:27:08 PM
Quote from: Nige on March 16, 2015, 12:24:02 PM
Quote from: elephants on March 16, 2015, 12:16:55 PM
Simon White has posted back-to-back tons at an average of 110.

This 26 year old premium defender is coming into his prime and is available for a forward or midfielder with a similar average only.

Thanks. (:p)
Don't you have like no defensive depth though...?  :P
"Attacking" like flower until Mullett gets back on the park

^
The feels when Mullett misses more than 3 weeks and you've used your attack quota. :P

flower quotas I do what I want
:p
You've like 10 rucks and 20 forwards to play OOP anyway, no biggie right?  8)

Don't worry, Cairo is experiencing similar feels in the mids this season.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on March 16, 2015, 12:47:08 PM
Quote from: Nige on March 16, 2015, 12:41:18 PM
Quote from: elephants on March 16, 2015, 12:38:16 PM
Quote from: Nige on March 16, 2015, 12:35:37 PM
Quote from: elephants on March 16, 2015, 12:30:13 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on March 16, 2015, 12:27:08 PM
Quote from: Nige on March 16, 2015, 12:24:02 PM
Quote from: elephants on March 16, 2015, 12:16:55 PM
Simon White has posted back-to-back tons at an average of 110.

This 26 year old premium defender is coming into his prime and is available for a forward or midfielder with a similar average only.

Thanks. (:p)
Don't you have like no defensive depth though...?  :P
"Attacking" like flower until Mullett gets back on the park

^
The feels when Mullett misses more than 3 weeks and you've used your attack quota. :P

flower quotas I do what I want
:p
You've like 10 rucks and 20 forwards to play OOP anyway, no biggie right?  8)

Don't worry, Cairo is experiencing similar feels in the mids this season.

I thought OOP stood for Overly Outstanding Players?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on March 16, 2015, 12:49:16 PM
Quote from: elephants on March 16, 2015, 12:47:08 PM
Quote from: Nige on March 16, 2015, 12:41:18 PM
Quote from: elephants on March 16, 2015, 12:38:16 PM
Quote from: Nige on March 16, 2015, 12:35:37 PM
Quote from: elephants on March 16, 2015, 12:30:13 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on March 16, 2015, 12:27:08 PM
Quote from: Nige on March 16, 2015, 12:24:02 PM
Quote from: elephants on March 16, 2015, 12:16:55 PM
Simon White has posted back-to-back tons at an average of 110.

This 26 year old premium defender is coming into his prime and is available for a forward or midfielder with a similar average only.

Thanks. (:p)
Don't you have like no defensive depth though...?  :P
"Attacking" like flower until Mullett gets back on the park

^
The feels when Mullett misses more than 3 weeks and you've used your attack quota. :P

flower quotas I do what I want
:p
You've like 10 rucks and 20 forwards to play OOP anyway, no biggie right?  8)

Don't worry, Cairo is experiencing similar feels in the mids this season.

I thought OOP stood for Overly Outstanding Players?
In NDT's case, the whole team is OOP then right?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on March 16, 2015, 12:52:00 PM
Quote from: Nige on March 16, 2015, 12:49:16 PM
Quote from: elephants on March 16, 2015, 12:47:08 PM
Quote from: Nige on March 16, 2015, 12:41:18 PM
Quote from: elephants on March 16, 2015, 12:38:16 PM
Quote from: Nige on March 16, 2015, 12:35:37 PM
Quote from: elephants on March 16, 2015, 12:30:13 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on March 16, 2015, 12:27:08 PM
Quote from: Nige on March 16, 2015, 12:24:02 PM
Quote from: elephants on March 16, 2015, 12:16:55 PM
Simon White has posted back-to-back tons at an average of 110.

This 26 year old premium defender is coming into his prime and is available for a forward or midfielder with a similar average only.

Thanks. (:p)
Don't you have like no defensive depth though...?  :P
"Attacking" like flower until Mullett gets back on the park

^
The feels when Mullett misses more than 3 weeks and you've used your attack quota. :P

flower quotas I do what I want
:p
You've like 10 rucks and 20 forwards to play OOP anyway, no biggie right?  8)

Don't worry, Cairo is experiencing similar feels in the mids this season.

I thought OOP stood for Overly Outstanding Players?
In NDT's case, the whole team is OOP then right?

Yeah man :) Pretty sure we've had the most OOP's in the comps history :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on March 16, 2015, 04:49:27 PM
Yeah trading period is over, I think it was the last thing ossie did before the end of his tyranny  :P

Quote from: ossie85 on March 16, 2015, 12:16:30 PM

Reckon the team that scores the most over the NAB cup should be the preseason premier?

Doing a great job Purps

Sure, why not.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on March 16, 2015, 06:21:09 PM
Purp you should have taken Tmac

what a beast.

stuff the swallow bros

happy with the McBrothers.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on March 16, 2015, 06:50:26 PM
Quote from: Holz on March 16, 2015, 06:21:09 PM
Purp you should have taken Tmac

what a beast.

stuff the swallow bros

happy with the McBrothers.

I have noticed his two good scores  ::)

But... SC is a bull shower representation of what he does in a match lol. I don't care if his disposal accuracy is 75% or higher in any given match, HE IS THE WORST KICK IN OUR SIDE... and yet he does pretty well for a KPP in SC! I don't understand  :-X
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on March 16, 2015, 08:10:24 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on March 16, 2015, 11:47:58 AM
Quote from: Nige on March 16, 2015, 11:45:37 AM
#onthebottom
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on March 20, 2015, 08:45:45 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on March 16, 2015, 06:50:26 PM
Quote from: Holz on March 16, 2015, 06:21:09 PM
Purp you should have taken Tmac

what a beast.

stuff the swallow bros

happy with the McBrothers.

I have noticed his two good scores  ::)

But... SC is a bull shower representation of what he does in a match lol. I don't care if his disposal accuracy is 75% or higher in any given match, HE IS THE WORST KICK IN OUR SIDE... and yet he does pretty well for a KPP in SC! I don't understand  :-X

make that 3
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on March 23, 2015, 08:00:40 PM
The 3rd and final round of the pre-season! Results as follows, as per norm, best XV taken regardless of position, and no captains.

Mexico and Dublin must have heard last week that there would be a winner to this comp, sending a message to the rest of the comp of what's to come.

NDT still struggle to cover the loss of Dawson, with rumours that co-coaches ric and ele are looking over their shoulders as they walk the halls at the NDTFC.

Round 3                     Score
Mexico City Suns               1549
Dublin Destroyers               1530
Beijing Thunder               1432
PNL Reindeers               1382
Toronto Wolves               1362
New York Revolution       1339
Seoul Magpies               1334
Christchurch Saints       1332
Cape Town Cobras       1307
Tokyo Samurai               1289
Rio de Janeiro Jaguars       1279
Berlin Brewers               1258
Buenos Aires Armadillos       1247
Pacific Islanders               1223
London Royals               1173
Moscow Spetsnaz               1089
Cairo Sands                       1076
New Delhi Tigers               1009
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on March 23, 2015, 08:03:34 PM
And the proof (all players that played AFL shown):

Beijing Thunder   
Eddie Betts   134
Oliver Wines   132
Phil Davis   114
Chris Dawes   106
Tom Bell   103
Harry Taylor   99
Jared Polec   95
Cameron Shenton   90
Cameron Wood   86
Lachie Neale   86
Maverick Weller   81
Michael Talia   79
Josh Caddy   78
Touk Miller   77
Luke Brown   72
James Aish   70
Matt Jones   70
Alipate Carlile   49
Travis Varcoe   47
Sam Gray   46
Ted Richards   46
Brodie Grundy   43
Kane Lambert   41
Thomas Jonas   38
Tom Clurey   13
   
Berlin Brewers   
Nat Fyfe   136
Jack Grimes   98
Jack Watts   95
Will Langford   95
Lewis Jetta   94
Daniel Cross   90
Colin Garland   89
Jack Steven   88
Adam Treloar   75
Drew Petrie   74
Jack Redpath   72
Jack Viney   69
Dale Thomas   67
Mark Jamar   62
Kyle Cheney   54
Marco Paparone   52
Dylan Grimes   30
Darren Minchington   28
Max Gawn   26
Ben Sinclair   23
Brad Crouch   13
Jordan Murdoch   12
   
Buenos Aires Armadillos   
Bradley Hill   122
Brett Goodes   121
Lindsay Thomas   115
Lin Jong   100
Taylor Adams   99
Mitch Wallis   92
Justin Clarke   90
Rohan Bewick   71
John Butcher   69
Troy Chaplin   69
Ben Newton   65
Jackson Ramsay   63
Shaun Atley   63
Jake Neade   56
Dale Morris   52
Easton Wood   50
Ben Lennon   48
Tim Membrey   40
Tyson Goldsack   38
Michael Close   37
Jay Schulz   36
Liam Jones   35
David Astbury   28
Jason Tutt   6
   
Cairo Sands   
Dayne Beams   111
Nick Smith   100
Dion Prestia   95
Luke Dunstan   85
Jeremy McGovern   84
Rhys Palmer   76
Shane Mumford   71
Luke Breust   64
Rory Thompson   62
Jeremy Laidler   61
Ben Stratton   60
Paul Puopolo   55
Brodie Smith   53
Sam Rowe   52
Connor Blakely   47
Ben Brown   43
Jack Lonie   33
Jake Batchelor   11
   
Cape Town Cobras   
Tom Hawkins   130
Scott Selwood   117
Stefan Martin   108
Shaun Higgins   101
Jeremy Cameron   98
Josh P Kennedy   96
Mark Blicavs   92
Dom Tyson   86
Trent Cotchin   82
Craig Bird   72
Edward Curnow   71
James Gwilt   69
Nick Haynes   69
Mitch Honeychurch   59
Andrejs Everitt   57
Jaden McGrath   57
Adam Cooney   56
Darcy Lang   54
Cameron O'Shea   53
Gary Rohan   52
Matthew Dick   51
Jasper Pittard   48
Sam B Reid   45
Cameron McCarthy   39
George Horlin-Smith   25
Jimmy Toumpas   18
Jake Kelly   15
   
Christchurch Saints   
Will Minson   123
Sam Mitchell   116
Sean Dempster   109
Tory Dickson   104
Dayne Zorko   93
Jeff Garlett   92
Aaron Vandenberg   91
Matthew Boyd   88
Joel Patfull   86
Jamie Elliott   84
Luke Shuey   79
Liam Picken   76
Ryan Lester   67
Shaun McKernan   66
Aaron Sandilands   58
Jake Stringer   57
Dylan Roberton   50
Tom Scully   49
Joshua Green   35
Kyle Langford   29
Matthew Buntine   27
   
Dublin Destroyers   
Jarryd Roughead   140
Travis Boak   140
Jack Gunston   138
Todd Goldstein   135
Joel Selwood   112
Dustin Martin   111
Rory Sloane   104
Robert Murphy   103
Tom McDonald   96
Alex Rance   89
Nick Dal Santo   85
David Mundy   80
Ciaran Byrne   73
Michael Walters   70
Neville Jetta   54
Sam Frost   50
Nathan van Berlo   49
Josh Bruce   48
Tanner Smith   2
Lance Franklin   0
   
London Royals   
Heritier Lumumba   141
Dan Hannebery   99
Mark LeCras   95
Troy Menzel   86
Chris Mayne   85
Matt Shaw   83
Dane Rampe   77
Dean Towers   71
Shane Edwards   69
David Mackay   65
Mark Baguley   64
Lachlan Dalgleish   62
Adam Saad   61
Zach Tuohy   58
Tom Lonergan   57
Daniel McStay   45
Sam Wright   41
Bradley Sheppard   40
Danyle Pearce   36
Jonathan Giles   34
Will Hoskin-Elliott   28
Cory Gregson   20
Darcy Gardiner   17
Kyle Hartigan   11
   
Mexico City Suns   
Jordan Lewis   134
Michael Johnson   127
Tom Rockliff   119
Cameron Ellis-Yolmen   117
Bradley Ebert   112
Ivan Maric   112
Steele Sidebottom   106
Brett Deledio   103
Brent Harvey   100
Brendon Goddard   99
Jimmy Bartel   91
Daniel Wells   90
Matthew Broadbent   85
Kamdyn McIntosh   77
Shaun Grigg   77
Shannon Hurn   73
Scott D Thompson   69
Allen Christensen   59
Taylor Hunt   59
Adam Oxley   58
Matthew Stokes   57
Brian Lake   48
Blake Acres   37
Daniel Robinson   29
James Sicily   29
Paul Stewart   13
   
Moscow Spetsnaz   
Robbie Gray   112
Joe Daniher   86
Callan Ward   80
Dominic Sheed   78
Josh Thomas   76
Josh Jenkins   74
Sam Docherty   74
Clancee Pearce   72
Lynden Dunn   67
Nic Naitanui   66
James Frawley   64
Luke McDonald   64
Ryan Bastinac   61
Levi Greenwood   58
Jack Hombsch   57
Steven May   57
Jack Sinclair   56
Jesse Hogan   52
Nick Vlastuin   37
Tyrone Vickery   17
Corey Gault   16
Fraser McInnes   16
Michael Jamison   11
Jonathan Simpkin   2
Keenan Ramsey   0
   
New Delhi Tigers   
Chris Masten   120
Stephen Coniglio   92
Isaac Heeney   91
Andrew Gaff   90
Zachary Clarke   72
Jarrad Grant   71
Ben Griffiths   60
Daniel Talia   58
Reece Conca   58
Simon White   57
Jesse White   52
Rohan Bail   51
Tom Nicholls   49
Jack Hannath   48
Patrick McCartin   40
William Hams   38
Daniel Gorringe   37
Jarman Impey   26
Lewis Pierce   21
Tom Curren   21
Simon Tunbridge   14
   
New York Revolution   
Harley Bennell   123
Mitch Duncan   116
Heath Shaw   111
Jackson Macrae   111
Josh Gibson   108
Heath Grundy   91
Steve Johnson   82
Michael Firrito   80
Patrick McGinnity   80
Kade Kolodjashnij   79
Orazio Fantasia   79
Josh J Kennedy   74
Jed Adcock   73
Matt Rosa   70
Mike Pyke   62
Nathan Brown   60
Sharrod Wellingham   60
Matthew White   56
Travis Cloke   56
Jamie Bennell   52
Dawson Simpson   51
Hayden Crozier   47
Nakia Cockatoo   46
Sam Fisher   44
Tom Lamb   42
Leigh Montagna   29
Alex Sexton   28
   
Pacific Islanders   
Marcus Bontempelli   131
Cameron Guthrie   101
Tomas Bugg   98
Lee Spurr   96
Matthew Leuenberger   96
Jack Redden   92
Matthew de Boer   74
Devon Smith   73
Adam Tomlinson   71
Jarryd Blair   69
Tom Mitchell   68
Jarryd Lyons   66
Rory Laird   65
Sam Gibson   64
Joel Tippett   59
Michael Rischitelli   55
Claye Beams   54
Joel Hamling   51
Mitchell Grigg   51
Adam Goodes   50
Curtly Hampton   27
Alex Fasolo   25
   
PNL Reindeers   
Thomas Sheridan   130
Daniel Rich   105
Nick Malceski   101
Elliott Kavanagh   99
Marley Williams   98
Cyril Rioli   97
Nathan Jones   92
Corey Enright   89
Dane Swan   88
Tom T Lynch   88
Luke Hodge   82
Dylan Shiel   81
Matthew Lobbe   78
Matt Priddis   77
Mitch Hallahan   77
Jarrod Harbrow   66
Justin Westhoff   65
Luke McPharlin   61
Ayce Cordy   58
Luke Delaney   58
Sebastian Tape   51
Sam Naismith   50
Matthew Watson   49
Jed Bews   37
Jarrod Garlett   35
Jayden Laverde   32
   
Rio de Janeiro Jaguars   
Jack Riewoldt   121
Patrick Cripps   119
Mitch Clark   95
Marc Murphy   91
Paul Chapman   88
David Zaharakis   85
Sam Jacobs   82
Andrew Mackie   79
Jonathan O'Rourke   79
Stephen Hill   79
Matthew Wright   77
Bachar Houli   75
Kane Cornes   74
Taylor Walker   74
Adam Schneider   61
Lewis Taylor   60
Robbie Tarrant   59
Elliot Yeo   57
Ben Jacobs   54
Max Duffy   54
Mason Wood   53
Ahmed Saad   48
   
Seoul Magpies   
David Swallow   125
Patrick Dangerfield   120
Jonathon Ceglar   118
Ben McEvoy   109
Jack Newnes   102
Brandon Ellis   98
Cameron Sutcliffe   86
Christian Salem   84
Toby Greene   74
Brandon Matera   73
Jake Lloyd   73
Tom Langdon   73
Trent McKenzie   69
Jed Anderson   65
Luke Russell   65
Joshua Kelly   63
Thomas Boyd   56
Jason Ashby   54
Jordan Roughead   50
Lachie Whitfield   48
Jackson Nelson   39
Nathan Wright   36
Blaine Boekhorst   27
Caleb Daniel   23
Eli Templeton   23
Taylor Duryea   12
   
Tokyo Samurai   
Luke Parker   109
Luke Dahlhaus   108
Jared Rivers   103
Matt Suckling   101
Martin Gleeson   99
Andrew Carrazzo   92
Aaron Young   91
Ricky Henderson   89
Chris Judd   84
Steven Motlop   77
Garrick Ibbotson   76
Zac Smith   69
Aidan Corr   66
Patrick Ambrose   65
Greg Broughton   60
Shaun Burgoyne   59
Harry Cunningham   54
Kristian Jaksch   53
Scott Lycett   53
Jackson Merrett   52
Jamie Cripps   49
Jack Frost   33
Clem Smith   29
Kieran Jack   25
Sam Lloyd   24
Jason Johannisen   14
Liam Dawson   4
Jordie McKenzie   0
Nick Suban   0
   
Toronto Wolves   
Richard Douglas   140
Scott Pendlebury   120
Isaac Smith   109
James Kelly   104
Ben Cunnington   100
Andrew Swallow   96
Daniel Merrett   94
Ryan Griffen   94
Matthew Pavlich   91
Kane Mitchell   84
Rhyce Shaw   72
Steven Morris   71
Shaun Edwards   63
Lachlan Henderson   62
Tom Hickey   62
Sam Butler   61
Mitch Robinson   50
Jack Ziebell   45
Jamie MacMillan   44
Kayne Turner   39
Aaron Hall   38
Jack Crisp   34
Alan Toovey   29
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on March 23, 2015, 08:10:48 PM
Quote from: Jayman on March 16, 2015, 08:10:24 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on March 16, 2015, 11:47:58 AM
Quote from: Nige on March 16, 2015, 11:45:37 AM
#onthebottom
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on March 23, 2015, 08:23:05 PM
The winner of the pre-season cup follows a pretty simple formula this year:

The winner is the team that scored the most points from all 3 weeks (i.e. the best XV scores from each week were added up, not what the whole team scored each week).

Thought it was the best way to go, seeing as none of us really care about pre-season  :P

So without further ado, the winner of the 2015 WXV Pre-season is...

THE MEXICO CITY SUNS

With 7 players averaging 100 from at least two games, it should really come as no surprise that the Jimmy Bartel (scores of 148, 126 and 91 with a team high average of 125) led Suns secured their first pre-season title.

The Suns join the Crowsfan/HoneyBadger lead Sao Paulo Pumas (2012 & 2014) and the JBs-Hawks led Seoul (2013) in the teams to have won the pre-season title.

Well done!

The full results are as follows:

Team    Total Score
Mexico City Suns   4324
New York Revolution   4183
Beijing Thunder   4133
Tokyo Samurai   4056
Cape Town Cobras   4002
PNL Reindeers   3863
Seoul Magpies   3856
Berlin Brewers   3852
London Royals   3851
Dublin Destroyers   3793
Christchurch Saints   3788
Rio de Janeiro Jaguars   3675
Toronto Wolves   3586
Pacific Islanders   3543
Moscow Spetsnaz   3531
Buenos Aires Armadillos   3506
New Delhi Tigers   3275
Cairo Sands    3184


Special mention to Beijing! Is this signs of things to come? With Eddie Betts, Lachie Neale and Harry Taylor averaging over 110, have they entered the finals' challengers group?

Kudos also to New York, whom stayed resilient despite a tough pre-season regarding injuries  :(

Questions to be answered Cairo?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on March 23, 2015, 08:32:39 PM
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! #preseasonspecialists
My older guys out in some big scores, but good to see the younger guys in Cam Ellis-Yolmen and Kamdyn McIntosh doing well too.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on March 23, 2015, 08:34:43 PM
Disgusting effort by Moscow, Toronto & Cairo, we've gotta lift our game.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on March 23, 2015, 08:37:21 PM
In our defence, we didn't have Rocky all pre-season
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on March 23, 2015, 08:40:21 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on March 23, 2015, 08:10:48 PM
Quote from: Jayman on March 16, 2015, 08:10:24 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on March 16, 2015, 11:47:58 AM
Quote from: Nige on March 16, 2015, 11:45:37 AM
#notonthebottom
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on March 23, 2015, 08:40:46 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on March 23, 2015, 08:32:39 PM
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! #preseasonspecialists
My older guys out in some big scores, but good to see the younger guys in Cam Ellis-Yolmen and Kamdyn McIntosh doing well too.

YESSSSSSSSSSSSS

preseason curse goes to the suns. No team has ever won both.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on March 23, 2015, 08:44:01 PM
Quote from: Holz on March 23, 2015, 08:40:46 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on March 23, 2015, 08:32:39 PM
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! #preseasonspecialists
My older guys out in some big scores, but good to see the younger guys in Cam Ellis-Yolmen and Kamdyn McIntosh doing well too.

YESSSSSSSSSSSSS

preseason curse goes to the suns. No team has ever won both.
Haha yep, I'm clearly very excited by this  :P

Oh well, we will change that this year  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 23, 2015, 09:01:34 PM
Things might not be as bad as expected without Libba  ???

Ah who I am kidding, we're just making up numbers  :'(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on March 23, 2015, 09:05:42 PM
Well 16 teams are only making up the numbers this year, only out of Mexico City and Dublin  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on March 23, 2015, 09:06:40 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on March 23, 2015, 09:05:42 PM
Well 16 teams are only making up the numbers this year, only out of Mexico City and Dublin  :P
How about Dublin and Mexico play each other every week, and the rest of us battle it out like we normally would haha
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on March 23, 2015, 09:17:24 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on March 23, 2015, 08:10:48 PM
Quote from: Jayman on March 16, 2015, 08:10:24 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on March 16, 2015, 11:47:58 AM
Quote from: Nige on March 16, 2015, 11:45:37 AM
#onthebottom
8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on March 24, 2015, 03:25:55 PM

Beijing have a strong record in the preseason comp! Probably a bad omen really....
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on March 24, 2015, 04:34:05 PM
11th is pretty pathetic but Hartlett played for 5 minutes, Gibbs played for 5 minutes, Hrovat played for 5 minutes and most importantly of all Dawson didn't play at all.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on March 24, 2015, 05:43:03 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on March 23, 2015, 09:05:42 PM
Well 16 teams are only making up the numbers this year, only out of Mexico City and Dublin  :P

Or just give it to the Sun's.

Not sure I can compete.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on March 24, 2015, 07:52:26 PM
Quote from: Holz on March 24, 2015, 05:43:03 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on March 23, 2015, 09:05:42 PM
Well 16 teams are only making up the numbers this year, only out of Mexico City and Dublin  :P

Or just give it to the Sun's.

Not sure I can compete.
Yeah sounds good to me
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Boomz on March 25, 2015, 03:05:25 PM
Surprisingly didn't do too bad...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on March 25, 2015, 06:46:13 PM
Very pleased with the Cobras pre-season and I think we are primed to make a very good run at the Top 4.

Down back Andrejs Everitt showed good signs for us and somehow is still listed as a defender. Shaun Higgins looks good at his new club, Nick Haynes looked good on return from injury, Gwilt looked decent for Essendon and MacKenzie's injury means Schofield is likely a regular starter for the Eagles this year.

In the midfield JPK and Tyson picked up where they left off, both Cotchin and Scooter gave strong performances in the last NAB Cup despite earlier injury worries and Darcy Lang pressed his claim for a Round 1 spot.

Stefan Martin performed well in the ruck despite Berger's return and Blicavs looked very solid as well.

Up forward a couple of problems with Hunter and Crameri not playing but Hawkins, Bird and Cooney looked solid, Cameron returned strongly from injury and Honeychurch and McCarthy pressed their claims for a regular spot in their respective teams.

I reckon we might be a premo mid or two short of a title challenge but, if things keep going our way who knows.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on March 26, 2015, 12:40:20 PM
Pretty happy with how we went in the preseason, good to see some of our boys in Betts, Taylor, Neale and co performing well heading into the season.

We've probably done well in preseason compared to the season proper in the past because our young guys that get games in the NAB and then not once the season starts. We have worked hard to get in guys with better JS this offseason though so I think that might change this year, and we'll have a lot more blokes to choose from each week.

#ThunderStruck
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on March 26, 2015, 01:44:24 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on March 25, 2015, 06:46:13 PM
Very pleased with the Cobras pre-season and I think we are primed to make a very good run at the Top 4.

Down back Andrejs Everitt showed good signs for us and somehow is still listed as a defender. Shaun Higgins looks good at his new club, Nick Haynes looked good on return from injury, Gwilt looked decent for Essendon and MacKenzie's injury means Schofield is likely a regular starter for the Eagles this year.

In the midfield JPK and Tyson picked up where they left off, both Cotchin and Scooter gave strong performances in the last NAB Cup despite earlier injury worries and Darcy Lang pressed his claim for a Round 1 spot.

Stefan Martin performed well in the ruck despite Berger's return and Blicavs looked very solid as well.

Up forward a couple of problems with Hunter and Crameri not playing but Hawkins, Bird and Cooney looked solid, Cameron returned strongly from injury and Honeychurch and McCarthy pressed their claims for a regular spot in their respective teams.

I reckon we might be a premo mid or two short of a title challenge but, if things keep going our way who knows.
Scooters return had got me pretty excited!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on March 26, 2015, 01:54:31 PM
I don't know what made me think of this now, but if Brad (or Matt) Crouch was at New Delhi, they'd be a crouching tiger...


Feel I should now say I'm not trading Brad Crouch  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on March 26, 2015, 02:00:06 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on March 26, 2015, 01:54:31 PM
I don't know what made me think of this now, but if Brad (or Matt) Crouch was at New Delhi, they'd be a crouching tiger...


Feel I should now say I'm not trading Brad Crouch  :P
Thats too good for it not to happen mate, you must trade him to us now
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on March 26, 2015, 02:01:20 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on March 26, 2015, 02:00:06 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on March 26, 2015, 01:54:31 PM
I don't know what made me think of this now, but if Brad (or Matt) Crouch was at New Delhi, they'd be a crouching tiger...


Feel I should now say I'm not trading Brad Crouch  :P
Thats too good for it not to happen mate, you must trade him to us now

Well, if you still had Dawson...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on March 26, 2015, 02:10:53 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on March 26, 2015, 02:01:20 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on March 26, 2015, 02:00:06 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on March 26, 2015, 01:54:31 PM
I don't know what made me think of this now, but if Brad (or Matt) Crouch was at New Delhi, they'd be a crouching tiger...


Feel I should now say I'm not trading Brad Crouch  :P
Thats too good for it not to happen mate, you must trade him to us now

Well, if you still had Dawson...
You're the monster who got rid of Nathan Brown, you have no right to speak.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 26, 2015, 02:24:15 PM
Hmmm, maybe we should elevate Brown for Libba, just to give Brown a run vs Berlin :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on March 26, 2015, 03:00:22 PM
Quote from: Nige on March 26, 2015, 02:10:53 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on March 26, 2015, 02:01:20 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on March 26, 2015, 02:00:06 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on March 26, 2015, 01:54:31 PM
I don't know what made me think of this now, but if Brad (or Matt) Crouch was at New Delhi, they'd be a crouching tiger...


Feel I should now say I'm not trading Brad Crouch  :P
Thats too good for it not to happen mate, you must trade him to us now

Well, if you still had Dawson...
You're the monster who got rid of Nathan Brown, you have no right to speak.  :P

:(

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 26, 2015, 02:24:15 PM
Hmmm, maybe we should elevate Brown for Libba, just to give Brown a run vs Berlin :P

:'(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on March 30, 2015, 06:43:14 PM
just worked out what my team would like if my trades werent all blocked :(

Birchall Hurn Rance Hansen (Tmac)
Selwood Sloane Sidey Watson (Thompson/Wells)
Goldy
Swan Roughead Franklin Martin (Bennell)
Gibbs NDS
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on March 30, 2015, 06:55:00 PM
Not even having Harley Bennell in an XV makes me sick.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on March 30, 2015, 07:06:36 PM
Quote from: Nige on March 30, 2015, 06:55:00 PM
Not evening Harley Bennell in an XV makes me sick.

he actually would be over Swan but i love swan that much
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on March 30, 2015, 09:34:51 PM
Quote from: Nige on March 30, 2015, 06:55:00 PM
Not evening Harley Bennell in an XV makes me sick.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on March 30, 2015, 09:51:27 PM
Quote from: elephants on March 30, 2015, 09:34:51 PM
Quote from: Nige on March 30, 2015, 06:55:00 PM
Not evening Harley Bennell in an XV makes me sick.
I'm unsure whether you're quoting in agreement on to glorify my typo.  :-[
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on March 30, 2015, 10:34:00 PM
Quote from: Nige on March 30, 2015, 09:51:27 PM
Quote from: elephants on March 30, 2015, 09:34:51 PM
Quote from: Nige on March 30, 2015, 06:55:00 PM
Not evening Harley Bennell in an XV makes me sick.
I'm unsure whether you're quoting in agreement on to glorify my typo.  :-[
Definitely the typo.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on March 30, 2015, 11:15:59 PM
An evening on Harley is awesome! I imagine.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on March 31, 2015, 01:14:57 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on March 23, 2015, 08:34:43 PM
Disgusting effort by Moscow, Toronto & Cairo, we've gotta lift our game.
Not overly fussed. Toronto don't usually get going until about round 5 anyway, usually about the stage when I know who is and isn't on my list for that season :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: upthemaidens on April 06, 2015, 12:51:03 PM
Home Ground Advantage

9. When you have a home-match (the first team listed in the roster, except for round 1 which is neutral), your lowest scoring player will have his score counted twice.


  ..Just to clarify, is there Home ground advantage this round?  I've seen some Coaches mentioning that HGA still to be added to there progress scores etc.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on April 06, 2015, 01:04:53 PM
I totally forgot about that tbh.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 06, 2015, 01:19:48 PM
Well it clearly says except for rd1, so it doesn't play this round
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on April 06, 2015, 01:25:34 PM
The rules haven't been entirely updated. So apologies for that, I'll update them myself by the end of the week.

This year in the fixturing, ossie has allocated  one neutral match for each team at different rounds in the year. These are the matches that have no HGA. You can see these matches in the fixture thread, shown in the venue of the match
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on April 06, 2015, 04:37:38 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on April 06, 2015, 01:25:34 PM
The rules haven't been entirely updated. So apologies for that, I'll update them myself by the end of the week.

This year in the fixturing, ossie has allocated  one neutral match for each team at different rounds in the year. These are the matches that have no HGA. You can see these matches in the fixture thread, shown in the venue of the match
Our neutral game is against Dublin in Round 10.  :'(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on April 06, 2015, 05:18:19 PM
Quote from: Nige on April 06, 2015, 04:37:38 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on April 06, 2015, 01:25:34 PM
The rules haven't been entirely updated. So apologies for that, I'll update them myself by the end of the week.

This year in the fixturing, ossie has allocated  one neutral match for each team at different rounds in the year. These are the matches that have no HGA. You can see these matches in the fixture thread, shown in the venue of the match
Our neutral game is against Dublin in Round 10.  :'(

On the upside it could be crooke park.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on April 06, 2015, 05:22:27 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 06, 2015, 05:18:19 PM
Quote from: Nige on April 06, 2015, 04:37:38 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on April 06, 2015, 01:25:34 PM
The rules haven't been entirely updated. So apologies for that, I'll update them myself by the end of the week.

This year in the fixturing, ossie has allocated  one neutral match for each team at different rounds in the year. These are the matches that have no HGA. You can see these matches in the fixture thread, shown in the venue of the match
Our neutral game is against Dublin in Round 10.  :'(

On the upside it could be crooke park.
Good point.  :P

But we're listed first, so it's like a home game for us... or could have been.  :'(

We'll pray for an upset or some bad luck for Dublin.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on April 10, 2015, 02:01:48 PM
Rules updated. (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,51596.0.html)

Should be nothing new to the veteran coaches.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on April 13, 2015, 09:27:27 AM
Anyone know that kids show Chuggington? I've only seen it because of ossie13 I swear  :P

Anyways, whenever Foife goes amazing, like yesterday for instance, I can't stop singing this in my head... to the tune of Chuggington's theme song:

Fyfe-fing-ton.

FYFE-FYFE-FYFE-FYFE-FYFE-FYFE-FYFE-FYFE-FING-TON!

Don't tell me no one else doesn't do something similar  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on April 13, 2015, 11:16:45 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on April 13, 2015, 09:27:27 AM
Anyone know that kids show Chuggington? I've only seen it because of ossie13 I swear  :P

Anyways, whenever Foife goes amazing, like yesterday for instance, I can't stop singing this in my head... to the tune of Chuggington's theme song:

Fyfe-fing-ton.

FYFE-FYFE-FYFE-FYFE-FYFE-FYFE-FYFE-FYFE-FING-TON!

Don't tell me no one else doesn't do something similar  :P

no, the rest of us are sane.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on April 13, 2015, 11:18:56 AM
Quote from: Nails on April 13, 2015, 11:16:45 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on April 13, 2015, 09:27:27 AM
Anyone know that kids show Chuggington? I've only seen it because of ossie13 I swear  :P

Anyways, whenever Foife goes amazing, like yesterday for instance, I can't stop singing this in my head... to the tune of Chuggington's theme song:

Fyfe-fing-ton.

FYFE-FYFE-FYFE-FYFE-FYFE-FYFE-FYFE-FYFE-FING-TON!

Don't tell me no one else doesn't do something similar  :P

no, the rest of us are sane.

True that may be... I'm sure people do something similar haha
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on May 02, 2015, 10:28:36 AM
Brad Hartman has parted ways with Geelong.  :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on May 05, 2015, 06:33:51 PM
Not a good day today, checking in to see Douglas out for up to 6 weeks, Kelly possibly the same, as well as Henderson's hammy and Pav's concussion...depth will really be tested over the next month or so!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on May 05, 2015, 07:30:30 PM
Hodge gone for 3 weeks :(. At least able to cover for him.

Trent McKenzie, Harley Bennell and Brandon Matera suspended by Suns for drinking :o. Harley a big loss for New York and Seoul loses two of their starters :-\.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on May 05, 2015, 07:35:09 PM
If Beams misses...

(╯°□°）╯︵ â"»â"â"»
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on May 05, 2015, 08:48:02 PM
Quote from: Nige on May 05, 2015, 07:35:09 PM
If Beams misses...

(╯°□°）╯︵ â"»â"â"»
Conflicted; I have him in SC but don't want him to play for Worlds  :-\
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on May 05, 2015, 09:49:08 PM
We finally get Montagna back this week only to lose Bennell

>:(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on May 05, 2015, 10:03:42 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 05, 2015, 09:49:08 PM
We finally get Montagna back this week only to lose Bennell

>:(
We finally get back Nroo, then lose Rocky and Lewis lol.

Wells, Stokes and Lids might come back too, who knows
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on May 05, 2015, 11:52:21 PM
I don't think we're getting anyone back this week and we might lose Beams and Puopolo.  :'(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jukes on May 05, 2015, 11:58:29 PM
We'll be missing Jaeger, Greenwood and Joshy Thomas for long time :/
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on May 06, 2015, 12:41:01 AM
Nick dal Santo and Hansen still out but thry might not get there spot back.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on May 06, 2015, 10:36:43 PM
Polec joins Wines on the sidelines with a 2-month navicular injury :'(

At least Shielsy will come back in this week, and youngsters Touk Miller and Jackson Thurlow seem to be capable replacements for the time being!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on May 16, 2015, 11:42:43 AM
So turns out Pendles had a shoulder reco over the summer...still averaging 120  8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on May 16, 2015, 12:31:12 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on May 16, 2015, 11:42:43 AM
So turns out Pendles had a shoulder reco over the summer...still averaging 120  8)

I still can't quite decide whether Pendles or GAJ should have been Pick 1... GAJ obviously better in the first 3 years, but long-term you'd back Pendles. But 3 Jim-Stynes medals though  :-\
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on May 16, 2015, 01:20:08 PM
Fanfooty has Pendles scoring 8369 points at an average of 124.91, and Ablett scoring 7728 points at an average of 133.24

So as you said Ablett has been phenomenal for the first 3 seasons but I feel Pendles 4 years younger hopefully accounts for the points difference in the long run.

To be honest you can't really go wrong with either they are superstars, and I'm still very grateful I managed to land the number 1 pick of the initial draft
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on May 16, 2015, 01:58:04 PM
Rio average captain scores for and against

                                         Jags                         Opponent
Round 1 VS Reindeers: G.Ablett(119x2=238) VS M.Priddis(78x2=156)

Round 2 VS Islanders: G.Ablett(87x2=174) VS M.Barlow(136x2+10%=286)

Round 3 VS Revolution: S.Jacobs(67X2=134) VS H.Bennell(84x2=168)

Round 4 VS Cobras: S.Jacobs(110x2=220) VS J.P.Kennedy(118x2=236)

Round 5 VS Magpies: S.Jacobs(62x2=144) VS P.Dangerfield(119x2=238)

Round 6 VS Spetsnaz: T.Walker(90x2=180) VS R.Gray/D.Armitage(143+134/2=139)x2 =278

Therefore plus/minuses for each round:
R1: Jags plus 82
R2: Jags minus 112
R3: Jags minus 34
R4: Jags minus 16
R5: Jags minus 94
R6: Jags minus 98

Average 22.67 x 2 = 45.33 points given up per week due to captaincy. Not a good stat! Hoping we can turn that around by the end of the season. Good thing we put the C on Sam Jacobs again this week as you can see he's been super consistent. Looks like he is in for a 68.  ::)

(http://www.onlinecharttool.com/graph/image/blank?antifreeze=1431747268)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on May 16, 2015, 02:01:47 PM
Wow, nice stats Levi! Good to see your identifying the problem with the Jaguars :P

I'm lucky I don't have to think about my Captaincy choice, Fyfe is life.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on May 16, 2015, 02:18:01 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on May 16, 2015, 02:01:47 PM
Wow, nice stats Levi! Good to see your identifying the problem with the Jaguars :P

I'm lucky I don't have to think about my Captaincy choice, Fyfe is life.

Hoping Gaz can get back then Gaz is life.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on May 19, 2015, 05:00:24 PM
So turns out despite me resting him last week, Swallow broke his thumb :(

Shows how fickle this game is, a few weeks ago I was sitting 2nd on the ladder and flying, now two weeks later I have Douglas, Swallow, Hendo and half my defence out and I'm not expecting to be in 2nd for long.

I guess its just hopefully a matter of staying in touch with the top 4 until I can hopefully regain a few players after the byes
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on May 23, 2015, 01:36:16 PM
I think all we can do is laugh right now.

The joke that has been going around is #NoMummyNoCairo and that was more or less expected to be what ruined our season if anything yet again.

Had a few early injuries like Hanley, Mackenzie and Hutchings as notable examples but we were still fine. In fact, trading Malceski has amazingly paid off and on-trading Mackie has basically worked out so far too.

We did make a mistake axing so much depth but it is pretty funny how literally everything that can wrong has gone wrong so far this season after our shock win over Moscow in Round 1.

Hoping for some Richmond 2014 style miracle comeback and finals berth.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on May 23, 2015, 01:41:22 PM
Good draft picks for next year Nige :(


Blicavs form is stunning.

I remember he was taken with the 4th last pick of the ROOKIE draft, and he was autupicked cos Maca24 didn't come on in time. He was pissed about that and got in a somewhat heated argument with CF about it.

I doubt he'd be complaining now
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on May 23, 2015, 01:44:10 PM
Yeah, it really has been an awful year for Cairo  :-\

But... I did see it coming :P

This was the PM I sent out after your round 1 win...

Quote from: Purple 77 on April 07, 2015, 09:00:35 PM
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Something to ponder...

Any revaluations on your predictions on teams this year based off round 1? Cairo out of your bottom 4 calculations? Beijing and Pacific to challenge for finals? Mexico City to crumble with the loss of Rocky and Sidebum?

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But funnily enough, yeah your major trades seem like the right ones so far. Reckon Hanley being missing, particularly no longer a defender, has really hurt.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on May 23, 2015, 02:07:20 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on May 23, 2015, 01:44:10 PM
But funnily enough, yeah your major trades seem like the right ones so far. Reckon Hanley being missing, particularly no longer a defender, has really hurt.
The thing is that we have like zero mid depth now because apparently (I thought otherwise, likely bias) Hutchings and Dwyer are fringe. Hanley being a defender would be making things worse to be honest because that's the one line we have that seems to be fine, playing depth and all. When he comes back, the extra mid will help heaps.

I think the biggest regret was trading Rischitelli, it was personally one of the ones I debated most and it has reaaally hurt us because he's seemingly gotten better with age.

Trading Tory Dickson for pick 85 has also surprisingly burnt us and the extension of that M.White + 85 for Kommer + 53, has a little as well given White's DPP would be really helpful given out current struggles.

All our major trades really have worked out well though which is the odd bit.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on May 23, 2015, 04:49:20 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on May 23, 2015, 01:41:22 PM
Good draft picks for next year Nige :(


Blicavs form is stunning.

I remember he was taken with the 4th last pick of the ROOKIE draft, and he was autupicked cos Maca24 didn't come on in time. He was pissed about that and got in a somewhat heated argument with CF about it.

I doubt he'd be complaining now
Crazy development. If he keeps his position, you'd say he's probably the second most valuable ruckman in Worlds right now.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on May 23, 2015, 05:04:47 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on May 23, 2015, 04:49:20 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on May 23, 2015, 01:41:22 PM
Good draft picks for next year Nige :(


Blicavs form is stunning.

I remember he was taken with the 4th last pick of the ROOKIE draft, and he was autupicked cos Maca24 didn't come on in time. He was pissed about that and got in a somewhat heated argument with CF about it.

I doubt he'd be complaining now
Crazy development. If he keeps his position, you'd say he's probably the second most valuable ruckman in Worlds right now.

isnt everyone just second to goldy anyway.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on May 23, 2015, 05:17:38 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 23, 2015, 05:04:47 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on May 23, 2015, 04:49:20 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on May 23, 2015, 01:41:22 PM
Good draft picks for next year Nige :(


Blicavs form is stunning.

I remember he was taken with the 4th last pick of the ROOKIE draft, and he was autupicked cos Maca24 didn't come on in time. He was pissed about that and got in a somewhat heated argument with CF about it.

I doubt he'd be complaining now
Crazy development. If he keeps his position, you'd say he's probably the second most valuable ruckman in Worlds right now.

isnt everyone just second to goldy anyway.
Well I'd say there's Goldy > the gun youngsters in Blicavs, Grundy and potentially Hickey > the group of 27-30 year olds that average around that 100-110 mark in Jacobs, Maric, S.Martin and Mumford.
>
Nic Nat, who I thought was THE most valuable player in the comp 2/3 years ago but has stalled big time.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on May 23, 2015, 05:35:27 PM
And then there's Spencer....
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on May 24, 2015, 04:00:27 PM

Any comment meow on Will Minson? Pushed an ump!

Long fall from grace for the 2013 Sao Paulo Premiership Captain
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on May 24, 2015, 05:28:54 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on May 23, 2015, 05:35:27 PM
And then there's Spencer....
Surely you wouldn't say he's worse than Cordy? :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on May 24, 2015, 08:18:45 PM
Cape Town rucks > Dublin rucks ... daylight to the rest :P

Blicavs and SMartin then Longer and Peter Wright the developing kids.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on May 25, 2015, 09:36:33 AM
Regarding World Idol elimination this week;

Seeing as I didn't really need to make a decision out of those criterion this week, I reckon it's a good opportunity to yet your opinion at what should be the decider, in case we get this scenario again.

So, we have:

1) Lowest on the Ladder
2) Lowest total points scored
3) Lowest score of the previous week

Thoughts?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on May 25, 2015, 09:38:30 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on May 25, 2015, 09:36:33 AM
Regarding World Idol elimination this week;

Seeing as I didn't really need to make a decision out of those criterion this week, I reckon it's a good opportunity to yet your opinion at what should be the decider, in case we get this scenario again.

So, we have:

1) Lowest on the Ladder
2) Lowest total points scored
3) Lowest score of the previous week

Thoughts?

Lowest total points scored.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on May 25, 2015, 09:49:08 AM
I feel as it is an elimination the second criteria should be total points scored as that is a true reflection for the year to date.

With the players so up and down this year the previous weeks lowest score could be screwed due to circumstances. One team may have had a blinder and the other an average one so really not fair to base on previous week.

In my opinion ladder position should be irrelevant in this section.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on May 25, 2015, 09:52:25 AM
Lowest points scored is fair I think, Ringo made a good point.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on May 25, 2015, 09:58:28 AM
I leaned towards lowest previous week score, because, as shown by Toronto recently, the eliminated team can have an abnormal shocker, and a poor team have a blinder, like Ringo points out.  These elements are in the scope of one week already in this game. So, I thought the consistent option would be expanding that scope to the previous week.

0-3-1 so far though  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on May 25, 2015, 04:06:38 PM
I seriously have no idea what I did to deserve this, I want to cry, I really do. I guess all we can do is laugh though, there's no other option.

Dion Prestia likely done for the season as he'll be getting surgery on his knee.

Press f to pay respects.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on May 25, 2015, 04:09:17 PM
f
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jukes on May 25, 2015, 04:10:57 PM
f.ucking shut up I didn't have a cry when Jaeger was ruled out for the season and Levi hasn't even played yet. Jaeger is 10 times the player prestia is and you know it
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on May 25, 2015, 04:15:06 PM
Quote from: Bane on May 25, 2015, 04:10:57 PM
f.ucking shut up I didn't have a cry when Jaeger was ruled out for the season and Levi hasn't even played yet. Jaeger is 10 times the player prestia is and you know it
Hahahaha, the difference is you still have players to field a team. We just lost our second best player and probably won't even have 15-18 next week.  :P

Also, mb on hitting modify instead of quote lel.  :-[
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on May 25, 2015, 04:18:54 PM
Oh gosh Nige...

Have you played New Delhi and Buenos Aires yet?    :-X
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on May 25, 2015, 04:19:38 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on May 25, 2015, 04:18:54 PM
Oh gosh Nige...

Have you played New Delhi and Buenos Aires yet?    :-X
Don't think so.  :'(

Edit: We're 1-7, only win against Moscow, flowered up by everybody in between, including HGA.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jukes on May 25, 2015, 04:21:19 PM
Just because we know how to attract stars at Moscow (Gray, Heppell, Ward, Armitage, Nic Nat...) doesn't mean we still don't need Jaeger :'(

If all our players were fit our mids would be Heppell, Ward, Armitage and Jaeger with Greenwood as a utility and that is GOAT tier, now we have to play flowering Bastinac as a starting mid and it sickens me :'(

And tbh I'm still a little mad we caught you on the only possible week you would ever score 130+ :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on May 25, 2015, 04:24:50 PM
Haha, we'll be getting Pearce Hanley back soon, he's a couple of weeks away, after the Lions bye I think.

Rhys Palmer still a few weeks off a return also I think.

At least they'll be two decent boosts to the XV.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on May 25, 2015, 04:28:53 PM
Our next 4 are Dillos, Dublin, NDT, and Mexico City after rep round.

Looking forward to that. 8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on May 25, 2015, 04:56:39 PM
Quote from: Nige on May 25, 2015, 04:28:53 PM
Our next 4 are Dillos, Dublin, NDT, and Mexico City after rep round.

Looking forward to that. 8)

to be fair your getting me at my weakest. Sloane NDS really starting to hurt.

the good news is with the cap injured players become more valuable.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on May 25, 2015, 05:17:46 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 25, 2015, 04:56:39 PM
Quote from: Nige on May 25, 2015, 04:28:53 PM
Our next 4 are Dillos, Dublin, NDT, and Mexico City after rep round.

Looking forward to that. 8)

to be fair your getting me at my weakest. Sloane NDS really starting to hurt.

the good news is with the cap injured players become more valuable.
There's no point getting you at your weakest if we're also at our weakest.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on May 25, 2015, 09:35:38 PM
Right when Yeo starts to hit form he gets suspended.  ::)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on May 25, 2015, 09:38:41 PM
Reckon we might challenge it tbh
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on May 28, 2015, 09:12:44 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on May 24, 2015, 04:00:27 PM

Any comment meow on Will Minson? Pushed an ump!

Long fall from grace for the 2013 Sao Paulo Premiership Captain

Luring the competition into thinking he's a spent force, when in reality he's just building into the season while overhyped players like Todd continue to spiral downwards after peaking too early. Big Will was merely patting the ump on the back in encouragement, and has even generously chipped in some of his own cash towards umpiring programs. Minson is a hero and should be praised for his actions.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 01, 2015, 10:33:31 PM
Will have Idol, Rising Star and TOTW up tonight.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on June 03, 2015, 11:43:34 AM
Cape Town's core best XV is quite young :)

Higgins (27), Everitt (26), Pittard (24), Savage (24), Haynes (23)

JPK (26), Cotchin (25), Scooter (25), Tyson (21)

Martin (28)

Hawkins (26), Bird (26), Cameron (22), McCarthy (20)

Blicavs (24), Curnow (25).

In fact we have no players over 30 in our squad

Our oldest is Adam Cooney who is 29 then James Gwilt who is 28. Both are fringe best XV as well. Aside from them we have Stewart Crameri and Will Schofield who are 26 and then everyone else is 23 or younger.

We should be coming in to our prime in terms of challenging for Top 4/a premiership very soon.


Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 03, 2015, 11:49:37 AM
It's like I've stumbled into /r/humblebrag
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jukes on June 03, 2015, 12:38:08 PM
Quote from: meow meow on June 02, 2015, 08:00:00 PM
Quote from: Bane on May 31, 2015, 09:37:00 PM
Youngest team in the comp and we're scoring with the best of them :D

A little too young. If you had have kept Shaw, Murphy and Fyfe you'd be the best team in the comp right now, not years down the track.

Well first, we got Armitage (119) and Luke McDonald for Heater, so scrub that.

And even if you add Fyfe and Murphy into the side without taking out whoever we got for them (because it's weird), we wouldn't beat Dublin. That's only about 100 more points per week at absolute most. It's not worth going all out for a premiership if you're not going to win one, so back out of the race (but we're still the 5th highest scorers) and wait for an easier window of opportunity.


Everything you can do I can do better memph ;)
D: Dunn (28), Seedsman (23), Docherty (21), Vlastuin (21)
McDonald (20) or Pearce (24) to replace Dunn when ready/soon

M: Armitage (26), Ward (25), Heppell (23), O'Meara (21)

R: Naitanui (25)

F: Monfries (28), Gray (27), Daniher (21), Hogan (20)
Moore (19) to replace Monfries when ready/soon

U: Greenwood (26), Sheed (20)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on June 03, 2015, 12:48:57 PM
I won't even do one, coz Petrie, Cross and Fletcher are in my best XV  :-X

And ALL of those inclusions were late trades or a draft pick... and I don't regret any of those trades/pick.

Besides, got worthy replacements after they retire  8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on June 03, 2015, 04:55:10 PM
Woah, what scintillating discussion :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on June 03, 2015, 05:15:13 PM
Oh yeah well you're all peaking (climaxing) too early. NDT 4 da win yo.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on June 03, 2015, 05:20:14 PM
Thought it'd be interesting to see the Average age of the best XV from France. Will take their ages by the end of this year.

Parisian Nice Lyon Reindeers

Backs: L.. Hodge (31), C. Enright (34), J. Harbrow (27), M. Williams (22)     - N. Malceski (31), J. Trengove (25)
Mids: M. Priddis (30), D. Shiel (22), N. Jones (27), D. Rich (25)     - M. Hallahan (23), Myers (26)
Ruck: M. Lobbe (26)     - Nobody :P.
Fwds: D. Swan (31), C. Rioli (26), C. Wingard (22), Z. Merrett (20)    - J. Westhoff (29), T. Lynch (25), J. Billings (20)

With Hallahan + Westhoff on bench, average age for this lot is 26.33 years. Forwards I'm prepared, Mids look fine (good enough) as well but Backline looks pretty ill-prepared for the future. We have 4 guys over 30 years of age and I expect Enright + McPharlin to retire this year.

So if anybody needs a forward, and have backs to spare, you know where to come ;).
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on June 03, 2015, 05:47:23 PM
Also interested to see how old our squad is!

D: H.Taylor (28), C.Hooker (26), M.Jaensch (25), J.Thurlow (21)
M: O.Wines (20), L.Neale (22), J.Caddy (22), J.Polec (22)
R: B.Grundy (21)
F: E.Betts (28), T.Bell (23), D.Stanley (27), T.Broomhead (21)
I/C: T.Miller (19), L.Shiels (24)

Emg: J.Aish (19), P.Davis (24), M.Kreuzer (26)

Average age of squad: 23.2 years

Oldest players are Harry Taylor and Eddie Betts at 28 years old. Youngest current starter is Touk Miller who is still a teenager, closely followed by Ollie Wines - captain at 20yo!

I think the thing that stands out most to me is the age of our midfield, which should only get better. Christian Petracca could well have been starting over Danny Stanley/Tim Broomhead this year if he was playing as well :'(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 03, 2015, 05:51:12 PM
Thought I would add London to the discussion: Like PNL ages at end of year.

Def: Dane Rampe (25) , Heritier Lumumba (29) Sam Wright (25), Adam Saad (21) - Darcy Gardiner (20) Daniel McStay (20); Mark Baguley (28) -          
Mids: Daniel Hanneberry (24);Dannyle Pearce (29); Brent Stanton (29);Jarrad McVeigh (30), Billy Hartung (20) Billy Stretch (20), David Mackay (27)                                       
Rucks: Callum Sinclair (26), Tom Bellchambers (26)                          
Fwds:Mark LeCras (29); Shane Edwards (27);Chris Mayne(27) ; Will Hoskin-Elliott. (21); Troy Menzell (21) Cory Gregson (19)                         
   
Will probably be looking for forwards and mids for depth             
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on June 03, 2015, 07:08:07 PM
OLD TEAM
Dempster, Patfull, Gilbert, Picken
Mitchell, Boyd, Gibbs, Hartlett
Sandi
Dickson, Reid, Garlett, Zorko
Shuey, Lester

YOUNG TEAM
Roberton, Buntine, McKenzie, Lever
Scully, Vandenberg, Smith, Freeman
Minson
Elliott, Stringer, Hrovat, Green
Andrews, Langford

Oh and there's top 30 picks Steele, McLean, Neal-Bullen, Wigg, Viojo-Rainbow waiting in the wings too.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on June 03, 2015, 09:11:21 PM
Quote from: Bane on June 03, 2015, 12:38:08 PM
Quote from: meow meow on June 02, 2015, 08:00:00 PM
Quote from: Bane on May 31, 2015, 09:37:00 PM
Youngest team in the comp and we're scoring with the best of them :D

A little too young. If you had have kept Shaw, Murphy and Fyfe you'd be the best team in the comp right now, not years down the track.

Well first, we got Armitage (119) and Luke McDonald for Heater, so scrub that.

And even if you add Fyfe and Murphy into the side without taking out whoever we got for them (because it's weird), we wouldn't beat Dublin. That's only about 100 more points per week at absolute most. It's not worth going all out for a premiership if you're not going to win one, so back out of the race (but we're still the 5th highest scorers) and wait for an easier window of opportunity.


Everything you can do I can do better memph ;)
D: Dunn (28), Seedsman (23), Docherty (21), Vlastuin (21)
McDonald (20) or Pearce (24) to replace Dunn when ready/soon

M: Armitage (26), Ward (25), Heppell (23), O'Meara (21)

R: Naitanui (25)

F: Monfries (28), Gray (27), Daniher (21), Hogan (20)
Moore (19) to replace Monfries when ready/soon

U: Greenwood (26), Sheed (20)

sooooo f/when Holz decides to leave FF thenand hope it is before your team gets to old or? :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 03, 2015, 09:34:25 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on June 03, 2015, 09:11:21 PM
Quote from: Bane on June 03, 2015, 12:38:08 PM
Quote from: meow meow on June 02, 2015, 08:00:00 PM
Quote from: Bane on May 31, 2015, 09:37:00 PM
Youngest team in the comp and we're scoring with the best of them :D

A little too young. If you had have kept Shaw, Murphy and Fyfe you'd be the best team in the comp right now, not years down the track.

Well first, we got Armitage (119) and Luke McDonald for Heater, so scrub that.

And even if you add Fyfe and Murphy into the side without taking out whoever we got for them (because it's weird), we wouldn't beat Dublin. That's only about 100 more points per week at absolute most. It's not worth going all out for a premiership if you're not going to win one, so back out of the race (but we're still the 5th highest scorers) and wait for an easier window of opportunity.


Everything you can do I can do better memph ;)
D: Dunn (28), Seedsman (23), Docherty (21), Vlastuin (21)
McDonald (20) or Pearce (24) to replace Dunn when ready/soon

M: Armitage (26), Ward (25), Heppell (23), O'Meara (21)

R: Naitanui (25)

F: Monfries (28), Gray (27), Daniher (21), Hogan (20)
Moore (19) to replace Monfries when ready/soon

U: Greenwood (26), Sheed (20)

sooooo f/when Holz decides to leave FF thenand hope it is before your team gets to old or? :P

Love yah Daz.

Hopefully thats not for a long time.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on June 04, 2015, 01:07:02 PM
Anyone who has plenty of midfielders but is looking for a developing forward or defender come talk to Cape Town in the off-season.

In fact if you're looking for more depth in general and have midfielders on the table we can help.

Every single on of our 13 forwards has gotten AFL gametime this season and all bar 2 (Plowman and Toohey) of our 14 defenders have played as well.

We'd happily package a good young defender and forward for a better midfielder this off-season. The better the midfielder you offer up the better the defender/forward you can get :D.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 05, 2015, 11:19:54 AM

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php?topic=103452.0
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 05, 2015, 01:23:09 PM
WXV Rising Star stats:

This table shows how many Rising Star nominations each team has won, and how many Rising Star nominated players they still have on its list (i.e. traded in our out).

Couple of notes:
- Billy Longer has been nominated twice for Pacific, but only counts once as a player on the list
- Michael Evans is the only WXV Rising Star Nominated player who is no longer on an AFL list


Team   Noms   On List   Turnover
Beijing   10   10   0
Berlin   4   8   4
Buenos Aires   2   4   2
Cairo   3   3   0
Cape Town   2   5   3
Christchurch   0   2   2
Dublin   2   1   -1
London   2   3   1
Moscow   3   5   2
Mexico City   1   1   0
New Delhi   4   5   1
New York   7   2   -5
Pacific   11   5   -6
PNL   1   1   0
Rio de Janeiro   1   2   1
Sao Paulo   3   0   -3
Seoul   2   3   1
Tokyo   1   3   2
Toronto   1   1   0
Wellington   6   0   -6
Delisted   0   1   1


So Pacific have the most nominations with 11, though you could argue they tie with Beijing on 10 as Longer nominated twice.

New York and Pacific like to ship off its young players more than any other team, while Berlin like to scab rising star nominations off other teams.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 05, 2015, 01:37:37 PM
Cool stats, that's super fascinating.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on June 05, 2015, 02:09:34 PM
Well, I suck at drafting, so I just trade my picks for the proven good draft picks of the previous couple of years  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on June 05, 2015, 02:34:09 PM
Cool stats Oz! Just shows Beijing's list has a lot of young talent on it at the moment :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 06, 2015, 11:17:30 AM
Average age of Dublin

Murphy 33 Birchall 27 Rance 26 Mcdonald 23 (Hansen 27)
Sloane 25 Boak 27 Selwood 27 Watson 30
Goldstein 27
Franklin 28 Martin 24 Gunston 24 Roughead 28 (Bruce 23)
Mundy 30 Walters 24 (Thompson 32)

Average 26.87

got a few old guys out there in Murphy Watson Mundy but pretty happy with the rest of the squad being 28 or under.

got my boys Boston (21) and Scharenberg (20) Mcdonald Jnr (20)  being the future. need a few more


Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 09, 2015, 12:35:12 PM
Daz did a interesting analysis of PNL with total points scored and ranking of players.

Tmac #1 Rance #5 Murphy #10
Mundy #5 Boak#20 Selwood #25
Goldy #1
Martin#1 Gunston #8 Franklin #9 Roughead #10


don't mind having #1 forward, ruck and back. my midfield is pretty disappointing though.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on June 09, 2015, 01:35:23 PM
Ah. Turns out Dublin does have a superior forward line compared to PNL  :-\

But you know what PNL has? Heart, Holz, the thing that's supposed to go in that black vortex in your chest  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 09, 2015, 01:37:18 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 09, 2015, 01:35:23 PM
Ah. Turns out Dublin does have a superior forward line compared to PNL  :-\

But you know what PNL has? Heart, Holz, the thing that's supposed to go in that black vortex in your chest  :P
flowering savage.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 09, 2015, 01:42:30 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 09, 2015, 01:35:23 PM
Ah. Turns out Dublin does have a superior forward line compared to PNL  :-\

But you know what PNL has? Heart, Holz, the thing that's supposed to go in that black vortex in your chest  :P

Interesting point of notice. There is a marvel comic about the Black Vortex.

Black Vortex, is an ancient artifact imbued with immeasurable power. Rumors claim that whoever wields it can unlock their true potential through cosmic power.

that sounds about right for Dublin and I.

stuff heart.


I would be worried more about Berlin's lack of guts. Posts decent scores but finds a way to lose alot of close battles and when they come up against Dublin they can't even put up a decent challenge.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on June 09, 2015, 01:47:51 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 09, 2015, 01:42:30 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 09, 2015, 01:35:23 PM
Ah. Turns out Dublin does have a superior forward line compared to PNL  :-\

But you know what PNL has? Heart, Holz, the thing that's supposed to go in that black vortex in your chest  :P

Interesting point of notice. There is a marvel comic about the Black Vortex.

Black Vortex, is an ancient artifact imbued with immeasurable power. Rumors claim that whoever wields it can unlock their true potential through cosmic power.

that sounds about right for Dublin and I.

stuff heart.


I would be worried more about Berlin's lack of guts. Posts decent scores but finds a way to lose alot of close battles and when they come up against Dublin they can't even put up a decent challenge.

I suppose you're right... I should make my players wear a crown so they look more like Royals when we play you  :-X
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 09, 2015, 01:49:25 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 09, 2015, 01:47:51 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 09, 2015, 01:42:30 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 09, 2015, 01:35:23 PM
Ah. Turns out Dublin does have a superior forward line compared to PNL  :-\

But you know what PNL has? Heart, Holz, the thing that's supposed to go in that black vortex in your chest  :P

Interesting point of notice. There is a marvel comic about the Black Vortex.

Black Vortex, is an ancient artifact imbued with immeasurable power. Rumors claim that whoever wields it can unlock their true potential through cosmic power.

that sounds about right for Dublin and I.

stuff heart.


I would be worried more about Berlin's lack of guts. Posts decent scores but finds a way to lose alot of close battles and when they come up against Dublin they can't even put up a decent challenge.

I suppose you're right... I should make my players wear a crown so they look more like Royals when we play you  :-X
Maybe just stick to being Berlin? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFasFq4GJYM)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 09, 2015, 01:51:37 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 09, 2015, 01:47:51 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 09, 2015, 01:42:30 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 09, 2015, 01:35:23 PM
Ah. Turns out Dublin does have a superior forward line compared to PNL  :-\

But you know what PNL has? Heart, Holz, the thing that's supposed to go in that black vortex in your chest  :P

Interesting point of notice. There is a marvel comic about the Black Vortex.

Black Vortex, is an ancient artifact imbued with immeasurable power. Rumors claim that whoever wields it can unlock their true potential through cosmic power.

that sounds about right for Dublin and I.

stuff heart.


I would be worried more about Berlin's lack of guts. Posts decent scores but finds a way to lose alot of close battles and when they come up against Dublin they can't even put up a decent challenge.

I suppose you're right... I should make my players wear a crown so they look more like Royals when we play you  :-X

you need to do something it's extremely lucky you have fyfe. Would be very nervous if he is rested towards the end of the season.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 09, 2015, 01:59:08 PM
So Rico and ele have lost to me in BXVs and AXVs so far, plus Richmond beat Freo.

Naturally, a win over NDT is a sure thing, as is Richmond beating West Coast in two weeks.

All that leaves in Storm vs Bashers, I feel I can with that too.  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on June 09, 2015, 02:42:15 PM
Quote from: Nige on June 09, 2015, 01:59:08 PM
Naturally, a win over NDT is a sure thing, as is Richmond beating West Coast in two weeks.

Prepare for an immense barrage of banter and abuse if you don't win both of these haha
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on June 09, 2015, 03:08:36 PM
Quote from: Nige on June 09, 2015, 01:59:08 PM
So Rico and ele have lost to me in BXVs and AXVs so far, plus Richmond beat Freo.

Naturally, a win over NDT is a sure thing, as is Richmond beating West Coast in two weeks.

All that leaves in Storm vs Bashers, I feel I can with that too.  ;)
b!tch pls,
Since round 5 you've only scored 120 more points than NDT. Total. That's it. :-X

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 09, 2015, 04:11:10 PM
Quote from: elephants on June 09, 2015, 02:42:15 PM
Quote from: Nige on June 09, 2015, 01:59:08 PM
Naturally, a win over NDT is a sure thing, as is Richmond beating West Coast in two weeks.

Prepare for an immense barrage of banter and abuse if you don't win both of these haha
I won't lie, I'm sweating a bit. I've set myself up for the fall. :'(

Quote from: Ricochet on June 09, 2015, 03:08:36 PM
Quote from: Nige on June 09, 2015, 01:59:08 PM
So Rico and ele have lost to me in BXVs and AXVs so far, plus Richmond beat Freo.

Naturally, a win over NDT is a sure thing, as is Richmond beating West Coast in two weeks.

All that leaves in Storm vs Bashers, I feel I can with that too.  ;)
b!tch pls,
Since round 5 you've only scored 120 more points than NDT. Total. That's it. :-X
Eh, we've barely had a team for the past 6 weeks or so though, we're getting players back now.  8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on June 09, 2015, 04:15:51 PM
Quote from: Nige on June 09, 2015, 04:11:10 PM
Quote from: elephants on June 09, 2015, 02:42:15 PM
Quote from: Nige on June 09, 2015, 01:59:08 PM
Naturally, a win over NDT is a sure thing, as is Richmond beating West Coast in two weeks.

Prepare for an immense barrage of banter and abuse if you don't win both of these haha
I won't lie, I'm sweating a bit. I've set myself up for the fall. :'(

Quote from: Ricochet on June 09, 2015, 03:08:36 PM
Quote from: Nige on June 09, 2015, 01:59:08 PM
So Rico and ele have lost to me in BXVs and AXVs so far, plus Richmond beat Freo.

Naturally, a win over NDT is a sure thing, as is Richmond beating West Coast in two weeks.

All that leaves in Storm vs Bashers, I feel I can with that too.  ;)
b!tch pls,
Since round 5 you've only scored 120 more points than NDT. Total. That's it. :-X
Eh, we've barely had a team for the past 6 weeks or so though, we're getting players back now.  8)
As do we... come on down Jack Darling ;)
Also wouldn't mind if Conca and Mullett hurried up
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 09, 2015, 04:18:25 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 09, 2015, 04:15:51 PM
Quote from: Nige on June 09, 2015, 04:11:10 PM
Quote from: elephants on June 09, 2015, 02:42:15 PM
Quote from: Nige on June 09, 2015, 01:59:08 PM
Naturally, a win over NDT is a sure thing, as is Richmond beating West Coast in two weeks.

Prepare for an immense barrage of banter and abuse if you don't win both of these haha
I won't lie, I'm sweating a bit. I've set myself up for the fall. :'(

Quote from: Ricochet on June 09, 2015, 03:08:36 PM
Quote from: Nige on June 09, 2015, 01:59:08 PM
So Rico and ele have lost to me in BXVs and AXVs so far, plus Richmond beat Freo.

Naturally, a win over NDT is a sure thing, as is Richmond beating West Coast in two weeks.

All that leaves in Storm vs Bashers, I feel I can with that too.  ;)
b!tch pls,
Since round 5 you've only scored 120 more points than NDT. Total. That's it. :-X
Eh, we've barely had a team for the past 6 weeks or so though, we're getting players back now.  8)
As do we... come on down Jack Darling ;)
Also wouldn't mind if Conca and Mullett hurried up
Hahaha of course!

Conca's still gonna be a while and I don't think we'll rush him back, re-injured his hammy iirc.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on June 09, 2015, 04:36:43 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 09, 2015, 04:15:51 PM
Quote from: Nige on June 09, 2015, 04:11:10 PM
Quote from: elephants on June 09, 2015, 02:42:15 PM
Quote from: Nige on June 09, 2015, 01:59:08 PM
Naturally, a win over NDT is a sure thing, as is Richmond beating West Coast in two weeks.

Prepare for an immense barrage of banter and abuse if you don't win both of these haha
I won't lie, I'm sweating a bit. I've set myself up for the fall. :'(

Quote from: Ricochet on June 09, 2015, 03:08:36 PM
Quote from: Nige on June 09, 2015, 01:59:08 PM
So Rico and ele have lost to me in BXVs and AXVs so far, plus Richmond beat Freo.

Naturally, a win over NDT is a sure thing, as is Richmond beating West Coast in two weeks.

All that leaves in Storm vs Bashers, I feel I can with that too.  ;)
b!tch pls,
Since round 5 you've only scored 120 more points than NDT. Total. That's it. :-X
Eh, we've barely had a team for the past 6 weeks or so though, we're getting players back now.  8)
As do we... come on down Jack Darling ;)
Also wouldn't mind if Conca and Mullett hurried up
We have Hanley back, so we're basically pushing for top 4 now
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 11, 2015, 04:07:38 PM
12 months for Crowley.  :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on June 11, 2015, 04:37:09 PM
Ryder out until round 14...flower :( Thought it was just a precautionary 1 week rest?

Means I'll have to persist with the incredibly out of form Hickey  >:(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on June 11, 2015, 06:38:01 PM
Quote from: Nige on June 11, 2015, 04:07:38 PM
12 months for Crowley.  :(

Big blow. Few things can screw up a team more than losing a 31 year old who averages in the 50's.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 11, 2015, 07:19:48 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on June 11, 2015, 04:37:09 PM
Ryder out until round 14...flower :( Thought it was just a precautionary 1 week rest?

Means I'll have to persist with the incredibly out of form Hickey  >:(

Or not.....
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on June 11, 2015, 07:30:32 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 11, 2015, 07:19:48 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on June 11, 2015, 04:37:09 PM
Ryder out until round 14...flower :( Thought it was just a precautionary 1 week rest?

Means I'll have to persist with the incredibly out of form Hickey  >:(

Or not.....
Jack Leslie it is  :-[
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on June 11, 2015, 07:35:17 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on June 11, 2015, 07:30:32 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 11, 2015, 07:19:48 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on June 11, 2015, 04:37:09 PM
Ryder out until round 14...flower :( Thought it was just a precautionary 1 week rest?

Means I'll have to persist with the incredibly out of form Hickey  >:(

Or not.....
Jack Leslie it is  :-[
He's a defender isn't he?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on June 11, 2015, 07:42:32 PM
Fanfooty has him listed as a ruck, I'm assuming that will change come the end of the season but hopefully I'll never, ever, ever need him again haha
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on June 11, 2015, 07:43:08 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on June 11, 2015, 07:42:32 PM
Fanfooty has him listed as a ruck, I'm assuming that will change come the end of the season but hopefully I'll never, ever, ever need him again haha
SC has him as a defender though :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on June 11, 2015, 07:48:37 PM
Quote from: GoLions on June 11, 2015, 07:43:08 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on June 11, 2015, 07:42:32 PM
Fanfooty has him listed as a ruck, I'm assuming that will change come the end of the season but hopefully I'll never, ever, ever need him again haha
SC has him as a defender though :P
Seeing as we're playing this game on the Fanfooty website it seems fair to me that m0nty's say is final and SC positioning is irrelevant.

Just quickly Crows fans, how are Jack Osborn's odds of a sneaky debut looking this week? :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 11, 2015, 07:52:25 PM
This an SC game sorry rb :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on June 11, 2015, 08:19:34 PM
Yeah I wasn't too sincere, I realise I'm going to have to go OOP this week. Not to worry, probably my fault for not investing in a back-up back-up playing ruck
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 11, 2015, 08:57:18 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on June 11, 2015, 08:19:34 PM
Yeah I wasn't too sincere, I realise I'm going to have to go OOP this week. Not to worry, probably not my fault for investing in a back-up back-up playing ruck

if it helps your only coming up against TODD GOLDSTEIN in the ruck
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 14, 2015, 05:16:53 PM

Wondering if a 'Pinch-Hitter' ruck is needed?

I.e. each team (at the start of the year) nominated a tall player(s) (who aren't a ruckmen) to be a pinch hitter, who can fill in if a team doesn't have a ruck available. This player would score at 0.75 (instead of only 0.5 for being OOP), and can only be used if you don't have a ruck on your list?

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on June 14, 2015, 05:21:39 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 14, 2015, 05:16:53 PM

Wondering if a 'Pinch-Hitter' ruck is needed?

I.e. each team (at the start of the year) nominated a tall player(s) (who aren't a ruckmen) to be a pinch hitter, who can fill in if a team doesn't have a ruck available. This player would score at 0.75 (instead of only 0.5 for being OOP), and can only be used if you don't have a ruck on your list?
don't have a ruck as in no ruckman at all on the list

none available due to injury or not getting games etc?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 14, 2015, 05:26:12 PM
Yes like no ruckman available any given week
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on June 14, 2015, 05:29:33 PM
I don't mind that Oz but maybe there should be a limit on how many times it can be used (as with the flood/attack rules) so teams that have managed their list well aren't punished (for lack of a better word) too much?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 14, 2015, 05:41:29 PM
Just expanding a little further as I do not mind it:

1) We are allowed to use a maximum of 5 times per year. Do not mind if reduced to 3 though but for discussion.
2) Nominate each week you use it but the player nominated must be a minimum height of 195cm.
3) Player scores 0.75% of his score
4) Can only be used if you don not have a playing ruck on your list for that week.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on June 14, 2015, 06:18:35 PM
I'd support that, no issues here.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: upthemaidens on June 14, 2015, 06:40:54 PM
 Another option could be to add a "No Ruck strategy"  in the same way as the Fwd or Def Strategies are used. (Ruck replaced by any position player).
    **With the additional restrictions of not having a playing Ruck man available for selection.

 
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on June 14, 2015, 06:53:59 PM
^ That's interesting. Like the Bulldogs not playing a ruckman for a little while earlier in the season... The rule could involve something like playing a 'pinch-hitter' at 75%-100% of their score, but the opposition ruck gets a 10% bonus or something?

Just spitballing :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 14, 2015, 07:50:15 PM
Quote from: Ringo on June 14, 2015, 05:41:29 PM
Just expanding a little further as I do not mind it:

1) We are allowed to use a maximum of 5 times per year. Do not mind if reduced to 3 though but for discussion.
2) Nominate each week you use it but the player nominated must be a minimum height of 195cm.
3) Player scores 0.75% of his score
4) Can only be used if you don not have a playing ruck on your list for that week.

as someone who has very good ruck stocks i should not be in favour of this but i think its good for the comp. However i think the height thing is very important and basically must fit all criteria. would really help out dillos.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jukes on June 14, 2015, 07:53:52 PM
Maybe a scale for the height?

200+ cm gets 0.90x
197-199 0.80
194-196 0.75
190+ 0.55
Under that is just OOP
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 14, 2015, 08:00:26 PM
Quote from: Bane on June 14, 2015, 07:53:52 PM
Maybe a scale for the height?

200+ cm gets 0.90x
197-199 0.80
194-196 0.75
190+ 0.55
Under that is just OOP

seems like alot of work for purp. maybe teams like the one with martin blicavs should spread the love around ;) i may cop alot of flack but i only have about 20 players who do anything.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on June 15, 2015, 09:45:31 AM
Think it was Memph who brought this idea up originally? Not sure how long ago it was discussed, but it was pretty detailed
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on June 15, 2015, 01:31:53 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 14, 2015, 08:00:26 PM
maybe teams like the one with martin blicavs should spread the love around ;)
Nah probs not.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jukes on June 15, 2015, 02:16:46 PM
Nic Nat > Martin + Blicavs + Goldstein ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on June 15, 2015, 02:17:56 PM
Nic Nat is love, Nic Nat is life.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on June 15, 2015, 02:19:10 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 15, 2015, 09:45:31 AM
Think it was Memph who brought this idea up originally? Not sure how long ago it was discussed, but it was pretty detailed

I did raise this before.

An OOP Ruck Rule and you all voted it down.

I'd worked it all out as well. Here's the rundown if you're wondering:

Quote from: Memphistopheles on September 11, 2014, 05:13:52 PM
Just a thought on the OOP ruck.

I don't mind getting 50% for OOP def/mid/fwd as there are lot of these players and in theory teams should have enough depth to avoid OOP.

However, given how limited the number of rucks who actually play are the 50% score rule for an OOP ruck is a bit harsh/could be improved in my opinion.

In real life if a team has lost their ruckman they use their next tallest guy/most agile and sometimes they are quite useful.

Could we adapt this for Worlds with a new rule?

I'd suggest that the OOP ruck score would be weighted something like this. They get a certain % of their score which is higher the taller the OOP listed player is.

How about the standard 50% weighting plus and extra 3% per cm the player is above 190?

Here's a practical example with a few players, using the Bombers as an example (ignore the actual players I've just picked guys who are different heights).

OOP Ruck

Joe Daniher - (201cm). As Daniher is 11cm above 190cm his OOP ruck weighting would be 50%+(11*3=33). Which = 83%

Cale Hooker - (197cm). As Hooker is 7cm above 190cm his OOP ruck weighting would be 50%+(7*3=21). Which = 71%

Patrick Ambrose - (191cm). Ambrose is 1cm above 190cm so his OOP ruck weighting would be 50% +(1*3). Which = 53%

So then say Daniher, Hooker and Ambrose all score an even 100 points in SC in real life then as an OOP ruck Daniher scores 83 points, Hooker scores 71 points and Ambrose scores 53 points.

I don't think the rule would be difficult to police/score as most likely teams wouldn't use an OOP ruck because there still is a penalty. Daniher is close to the tallest OOP ruck option you could have had this season (although someone in British pointed out that Lachlan Keefe was taller I think).
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 15, 2015, 03:32:58 PM
Quote from: Bane on June 15, 2015, 02:16:46 PM
Nic Nat > Martin + Blicavs + Goldstein ;)

Goldy would have scored 200 against no ruckline like Nic nat faced. His score is actually pretty disappointing considering he only just edged out Goldy.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on June 15, 2015, 03:39:53 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 15, 2015, 03:32:58 PM
Quote from: Bane on June 15, 2015, 02:16:46 PM
Nic Nat > Martin + Blicavs + Goldstein ;)

Goldy would have scored 200 against no ruckline like Nic nat faced. His score is actually pretty disappointing considering he only just edged out Goldy.

One immense difference. Callum Sinclair. North don't play a second ruck, we do. NicNat probably played 65% ruck at best (missed the game) so that hurt his scoring somewhat.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 15, 2015, 04:15:26 PM
Quote from: elephants on June 15, 2015, 03:39:53 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 15, 2015, 03:32:58 PM
Quote from: Bane on June 15, 2015, 02:16:46 PM
Nic Nat > Martin + Blicavs + Goldstein ;)

Goldy would have scored 200 against no ruckline like Nic nat faced. His score is actually pretty disappointing considering he only just edged out Goldy.

One immense difference. Callum Sinclair. North don't play a second ruck, we do. NicNat probably played 65% ruck at best (missed the game) so that hurt his scoring somewhat.

Im not sure NN has the ability to solo ruck all season long, week in week out. That is one of the strengths of goldy he just lumbers around the ground. I can just see NN getting injured or just worn down if he tried to do it alone.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on June 15, 2015, 04:21:54 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 15, 2015, 04:15:26 PM
Quote from: elephants on June 15, 2015, 03:39:53 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 15, 2015, 03:32:58 PM
Quote from: Bane on June 15, 2015, 02:16:46 PM
Nic Nat > Martin + Blicavs + Goldstein ;)

Goldy would have scored 200 against no ruckline like Nic nat faced. His score is actually pretty disappointing considering he only just edged out Goldy.

One immense difference. Callum Sinclair. North don't play a second ruck, we do. NicNat probably played 65% ruck at best (missed the game) so that hurt his scoring somewhat.

Im not sure NN has the ability to solo ruck all season long, week in week out. That is one of the strengths of goldy he just lumbers around the ground. I can just see NN getting injured or just worn down if he tried to do it alone.

Maybe, but you cant just ignore the fact he ruck-shared on the weekend (be it required or not)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 15, 2015, 04:51:24 PM
Quote from: elephants on June 15, 2015, 04:21:54 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 15, 2015, 04:15:26 PM
Quote from: elephants on June 15, 2015, 03:39:53 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 15, 2015, 03:32:58 PM
Quote from: Bane on June 15, 2015, 02:16:46 PM
Nic Nat > Martin + Blicavs + Goldstein ;)

Goldy would have scored 200 against no ruckline like Nic nat faced. His score is actually pretty disappointing considering he only just edged out Goldy.

One immense difference. Callum Sinclair. North don't play a second ruck, we do. NicNat probably played 65% ruck at best (missed the game) so that hurt his scoring somewhat.

Im not sure NN has the ability to solo ruck all season long, week in week out. That is one of the strengths of goldy he just lumbers around the ground. I can just see NN getting injured or just worn down if he tried to do it alone.

Maybe, but you cant just ignore the fact he ruck-shared on the weekend (be it required or not)

thanks for bringing it up, just further evidence that goldy >>> nic nat
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on June 15, 2015, 05:02:27 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 15, 2015, 04:51:24 PM
Quote from: elephants on June 15, 2015, 04:21:54 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 15, 2015, 04:15:26 PM
Quote from: elephants on June 15, 2015, 03:39:53 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 15, 2015, 03:32:58 PM
Quote from: Bane on June 15, 2015, 02:16:46 PM
Nic Nat > Martin + Blicavs + Goldstein ;)

Goldy would have scored 200 against no ruckline like Nic nat faced. His score is actually pretty disappointing considering he only just edged out Goldy.

One immense difference. Callum Sinclair. North don't play a second ruck, we do. NicNat probably played 65% ruck at best (missed the game) so that hurt his scoring somewhat.

Im not sure NN has the ability to solo ruck all season long, week in week out. That is one of the strengths of goldy he just lumbers around the ground. I can just see NN getting injured or just worn down if he tried to do it alone.

Maybe, but you cant just ignore the fact he ruck-shared on the weekend (be it required or not)

thanks for bringing it up, just further evidence that goldy >>> nic nat

Depends who takes the place that Sinclair occupies in North's 22.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on June 15, 2015, 05:30:25 PM
Blicavs soon to be > Nic Nat, Goldy and Martin.

105.9 average in just his third season playing AFL.

The sky is the limit for Blitz!

Also Nic Nat won't solo ruck all season long. He'll always have one of Sinclair, Lycett or McInness to back him up. So your point about him not being able to manage it isn't valid Holz.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 15, 2015, 05:46:00 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on June 15, 2015, 05:30:25 PM
Blicavs soon to be > Nic Nat, Goldy and Martin.

105.9 average in just his third season playing AFL.

The sky is the limit for Blitz!

Also Nic Nat won't solo ruck all season long. He'll always have one of Sinclair, Lycett or McInness to back him up. So your point about him not being able to manage it isn't valid Holz.

I said he will probably always have someone backing him up, that's one of the reasons goldy is better both in supercoach and in the afl as he needs to have people backing him up.

Blicavs is more a mid than a ruck, it wouldn't surprise me if he is mid only at some stage. He only gets 13 a game to Goldy's monster 41.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on June 15, 2015, 06:20:21 PM
Guys, guys, the one AFL-team ruck strategy is surpassed by no individual  :P

Round 1: Jamar (90)
Round 2: Jamar (73)
Round 3: Jamar (65)
Round 4: Jamar (82)
Round 5: Jamar (61)
Round 6: Spencer (68)
Round 7: Spencer (90)
Round 8: Spencer (115)
Round 9: Spencer (102)
Round 10: Gawn (98)
Round 11: Gawn (118)

Huh, it actually wasn't that great up until Round 7... the past month made me forget about the start of the season :P

Still, guaranteed a ruck each and every week  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 15, 2015, 07:10:09 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 15, 2015, 06:20:21 PM
Guys, guys, the one AFL-team ruck strategy is surpassed by no individual  :P

Round 1: Jamar (90)
Round 2: Jamar (73)
Round 3: Jamar (65)
Round 4: Jamar (82)
Round 5: Jamar (61)
Round 6: Spencer (68)
Round 7: Spencer (90)
Round 8: Spencer (115)
Round 9: Spencer (102)
Round 10: Gawn (98)
Round 11: Gawn (118)

Huh, it actually wasn't that great up until Round 7... the past month made me forget about the start of the season :P

Still, guaranteed a ruck each and every week  ;)

i have gone for that too

Goldstein Currie Daw.

Goldy doing just fine alone though
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on June 15, 2015, 07:27:53 PM
Yep Maric and Hampson going well too :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 15, 2015, 07:32:22 PM
If Boomz would give us Phillips, that'd be great.  :P :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on June 16, 2015, 09:57:14 AM
Yeh maybe instead of a new ruck rule we just trade harder to get a teams complete ruck stocks. That was our plan anyway. Got Nicholls, Gorringe, Brooksby... just needed ZSmith.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 16, 2015, 10:03:21 AM
Maybe Purps should set up a system where each Worlds team gets all the rucks of one AFL club.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on June 16, 2015, 10:10:00 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 16, 2015, 09:57:14 AM
Yeh maybe instead of a new ruck rule we just trade harder to get a teams complete ruck stocks. That was our plan anyway. Got Nicholls, Gorringe, Brooksby... just needed ZSmith.

Smith wont be at GC next year anyway
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 16, 2015, 10:15:38 AM
Quote from: Nige on June 16, 2015, 10:03:21 AM
Maybe Purps should set up a system where each Worlds team gets all the rucks of one AFL club.  :P

suck if you had Essendon
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 16, 2015, 10:23:36 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 16, 2015, 10:15:38 AM
Quote from: Nige on June 16, 2015, 10:03:21 AM
Maybe Purps should set up a system where each Worlds team gets all the rucks of one AFL club.  :P

suck if you had Essendon
Poor Ringo with Belly and Giles.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 16, 2015, 11:19:05 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 16, 2015, 10:15:38 AM
Quote from: Nige on June 16, 2015, 10:03:21 AM
Maybe Purps should set up a system where each Worlds team gets all the rucks of one AFL club.  :P

suck if you had Essendon

dibs on north. saying that i really wouldnt mind ports lobbe ryder combo though.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on June 16, 2015, 01:49:17 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 16, 2015, 11:19:05 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 16, 2015, 10:15:38 AM
Quote from: Nige on June 16, 2015, 10:03:21 AM
Maybe Purps should set up a system where each Worlds team gets all the rucks of one AFL club.  :P

suck if you had Essendon

dibs on north. saying that i really wouldnt mind ports lobbe ryder combo though.

I'd rather Nic Nat, Sinclair and Lycett I think.

Though the Geelong combo would be interesting the future. Blicavs, Stanley, Simpson, McIntosh, Vardy, Luxford, Clark - may as well have their whole team lol.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 16, 2015, 02:02:51 PM
Shane Mumford apparently gone for the season as he'll have ankle surgery. Do we laugh? Do we cry? Do we get down on our knees and beg Boomz to give us Andrew Phillips as a goodwill gesture?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 16, 2015, 02:11:24 PM
Quote from: Nige on June 16, 2015, 02:02:51 PM
Shane Mumford apparently gone for the season as he'll have ankle surgery. Do we laugh? Do we cry? Do we get down on our knees and beg Boomz to give us Andrew Phillips as a goodwill gesture?

Why choose? Do all three
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 16, 2015, 02:12:08 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 16, 2015, 02:11:24 PM
Quote from: Nige on June 16, 2015, 02:02:51 PM
Shane Mumford apparently gone for the season as he'll have ankle surgery. Do we laugh? Do we cry? Do we get down on our knees and beg Boomz to give us Andrew Phillips as a goodwill gesture?

Why choose? Do all three
Already have done.  :'(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 16, 2015, 02:14:58 PM
Quote from: Nige on June 16, 2015, 10:23:36 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 16, 2015, 10:15:38 AM
Quote from: Nige on June 16, 2015, 10:03:21 AM
Maybe Purps should set up a system where each Worlds team gets all the rucks of one AFL club.  :P

suck if you had Essendon
Poor Ringo with Belly and Giles.
At least Sinclair is playing at the moment One would have thought with all three ruck stocks were reasonable with Archie Smith developing.  just saying you think you are covered and the crap hit the fan.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on June 16, 2015, 04:30:28 PM
Quote from: Nige on June 16, 2015, 10:03:21 AM
Maybe Purps should set up a system where each Worlds team gets all the rucks of one AFL club.  :P

and if WXV goes to a 19 or 20 team competition...?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 16, 2015, 04:50:56 PM
Quote from: meow meow on June 16, 2015, 04:30:28 PM
Quote from: Nige on June 16, 2015, 10:03:21 AM
Maybe Purps should set up a system where each Worlds team gets all the rucks of one AFL club.  :P

and if WXV goes to a 19 or 20 team competition...?

I don't think it was ever a serious idea. People have been playing OOP in heaps of lines so the ruck isnt any difference. 
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on June 16, 2015, 05:42:57 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 16, 2015, 04:50:56 PM
Quote from: meow meow on June 16, 2015, 04:30:28 PM
Quote from: Nige on June 16, 2015, 10:03:21 AM
Maybe Purps should set up a system where each Worlds team gets all the rucks of one AFL club.  :P

and if WXV goes to a 19 or 20 team competition...?

I don't think it was ever a serious idea. People have been playing OOP in heaps of lines so the ruck isnt any difference.

Me and oz have certainly discussed it length... I wouldn't say its not serious.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 16, 2015, 05:46:42 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 16, 2015, 05:42:57 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 16, 2015, 04:50:56 PM
Quote from: meow meow on June 16, 2015, 04:30:28 PM
Quote from: Nige on June 16, 2015, 10:03:21 AM
Maybe Purps should set up a system where each Worlds team gets all the rucks of one AFL club.  :P

and if WXV goes to a 19 or 20 team competition...?

I don't think it was ever a serious idea. People have been playing OOP in heaps of lines so the ruck isnt any difference.

Me and oz have certainly discussed it length... I wouldn't say its not serious.

hmm the logistics of it would be extremely hard to do without just redrafting.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 16, 2015, 05:53:02 PM

Holz is talking about the one-team ruck rule Purps, not the 20 team rule..

... I think
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 16, 2015, 06:06:52 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 16, 2015, 05:53:02 PM

Holz is talking about the one-team ruck rule Purps, not the 20 team rule..

... I think

correct. the 20 team rule could work, the one ruck pert team no way.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on June 16, 2015, 06:47:25 PM
Just use my OOP ruck rule - honestly what issues do people have with it?

All the admin needs to do is recognise the ruck is OOP and then check the players height and apply the formula (which could be changed if people want).

For example this weekend with the Bombers rucks.

Say their WXV team had to use either Carlisle or Ambrose in the ruck, which would mean they would be OOP.

Jake Carlisle scored 26.

Patrick Ambrose scored 54.

Carlisle is 8cm above 190cm so his OOP ruck weighting would be 50% + (8x3) = 74%. So Carlisle scores 26 x 74% = 19.

Ambrose is 1cm above 190cm so his OOP ruck weighting would be 50% +(1x3) = 53%. So Ambrose scores 54 x 53% = 29.

Have rounded to the nearest whole number. The taller players who are placed OOP in the ruck spot score more points - it seems like a logical thing to do.


Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on June 16, 2015, 07:11:54 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on June 16, 2015, 06:47:25 PM
Just use my OOP ruck rule - honestly what issues do people have with it?

All the admin needs to do is recognise the ruck is OOP and then check the players height and apply the formula (which could be changed if people want).

For example this weekend with the Bombers rucks.

Say their WXV team had to use either Carlisle or Ambrose in the ruck, which would mean they would be OOP.

Jake Carlisle scored 26.

Patrick Ambrose scored 54.

Carlisle is 8cm above 190cm so his OOP ruck weighting would be 50% + (8x3) = 74%. So Carlisle scores 26 x 74% = 19.

Ambrose is 1cm above 190cm so his OOP ruck weighting would be 50% +(1x3) = 53%. So Ambrose scores 54 x 53% = 29.

Have rounded to the nearest whole number. The taller players who are placed OOP in the ruck spot score more points - it seems like a logical thing to do.

i think it is good except for the height part it may take what seems only a few minutes to search players height but with the work Purps already does doubt he needs to be always searching player's heights weather it take 2 minutes or 10
doesn't need even more things to complicate it

plus i like the idea of it being like a strategy and like the way Ringo stipulated it

Quote from: Ringo on June 14, 2015, 05:41:29 PM
Just expanding a little further as I do not mind it:

1) We are allowed to use a maximum of 5 times per year. Do not mind if reduced to 3 though but for discussion.
2) Nominate each week you use it but the player nominated must be a minimum height of 195cm.
3) Player scores 0.75% of his score
4) Can only be used if you don not have a playing ruck on your list for that week.

or Ossman's idea

Quote from: ossie85 on June 14, 2015, 05:16:53 PM

Wondering if a 'Pinch-Hitter' ruck is needed?

I.e. each team (at the start of the year) nominated a tall player(s) (who aren't a ruckmen) to be a pinch hitter, who can fill in if a team doesn't have a ruck available. This player would score at 0.75 (instead of only 0.5 for being OOP), and can only be used if you don't have a ruck on your list?

not quite as involved as having to look up exact height to work out exact scores

plus i also think if teams have more then 1 good ruck they should cash in and trade them surely you can offer those teams a ripper deal or stop complaining at not having a ruck (injuries ofc being bad luck and cannot really be helped)



Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on June 16, 2015, 07:15:45 PM
There's been about 2 players a week OOP in the ruck, so looking up their heights isn't a big deal, but I appreciate your concern daz  :)

I'd probably vote for the basic 0.75% on everyone though at a minimum of 193 cm, as I think 195cm is a little too tall.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 16, 2015, 07:50:06 PM
posting up my preliminary European Destroyers side, feel free to say who should make it and who should be dropped.

L.Hodge, T.Mcdonald, A.Rance, C.Enright
N.Fyfe, P.Dangerfield, D.Hannebery, D.Mundy
T.Goldy
R.Gray, D.Martin, L.Dahlhaus, D.Swan
C.Ward, M.Priddis

L.Neale, L.Franklin, N.Natinui, R.Murphy


interesting note 11 players are either from Dublin or were on a Dublin list at some point.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 16, 2015, 07:59:11 PM
No Asian players?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on June 16, 2015, 08:04:58 PM
Pedo out for the season, had been good this year too. I see he's out of contract at the Dees, lets hope this injury doesn't cost him a spot on their list
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Boomz on June 16, 2015, 08:10:00 PM
Quote from: Nige on June 16, 2015, 02:02:51 PM
Shane Mumford apparently gone for the season as he'll have ankle surgery. Do we laugh? Do we cry? Do we get down on our knees and beg Boomz to give us Andrew Phillips as a goodwill gesture?

May just save our season if Phillips can actually hold down the spot   :-X
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on June 16, 2015, 08:17:42 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 16, 2015, 07:59:11 PM
No Asian players?

The best in Asia is there  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 16, 2015, 11:43:33 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 16, 2015, 07:59:11 PM
No Asian players?

I totally forgot it was euroasia. Europe beastly.

Could give them to AAP they might need it.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on June 17, 2015, 11:02:58 AM
Goooood. Aaron Black looks like he might request a trade to somewhere like Freo next year. Would be very handy in our fwd line right about now!

What a trade though between Beijing & NYR - Black (struggling for chances as a key fwd in a poor VFL team at the moment) and Matty Rosa (constantly injured) have both been great pickups hey! :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on June 17, 2015, 11:26:11 AM
Quote from: Toga on June 17, 2015, 11:02:58 AM
Goooood. Aaron Black looks like he might request a trade to somewhere like Freo next year. Would be very handy in our fwd line right about now!

What a trade though between Beijing & NYR - Black (struggling for chances as a key fwd in a poor VFL team at the moment) and Matty Rosa (constantly injured) have both been great pickups hey! :P
haha there's a couple of trades like that. Looked through the trade confirmation thread and there are a few stinkers but not heaps. Thought there would be a lot more. Guess its a bit too early to judge them properly
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 17, 2015, 11:40:01 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 17, 2015, 11:26:11 AM
Quote from: Toga on June 17, 2015, 11:02:58 AM
Goooood. Aaron Black looks like he might request a trade to somewhere like Freo next year. Would be very handy in our fwd line right about now!

What a trade though between Beijing & NYR - Black (struggling for chances as a key fwd in a poor VFL team at the moment) and Matty Rosa (constantly injured) have both been great pickups hey! :P
haha there's a couple of trades like that. Looked through the trade confirmation thread and there are a few stinkers but not heaps. Thought there would be a lot more. Guess its a bit too early to judge them properly

dont mind my grant birchall pick up for black and other randoms.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 17, 2015, 12:40:39 PM
Looks like GWS will give Phillips the nod in Mummy's absence.

Here's hoping that Goldy tears Phillips a new one and he gets dropped in favour of Lobb or Downie.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 17, 2015, 02:59:01 PM

Hi all,

Me thinking again. Yes. I know.

Proposing to add more strategy to the Worlds games. Where teams will actually have to pay attention to the other person's team.

How? By changing position restriction.

As normal, you choose 13 on the ground, and 2 on the interchange.

For the 13 on the ground you can choose:
- A maximum 6 midfielders, 6 forwards, 6 defenders and 3 ruck
- A minimum 2 midfielders, 2 forwards, 2 defenders and 1 ruck

And if you can't do the minimum you still have to name someone OOP.

I.e. Your starting 13 can be 5 midfielders, 5 forwards, 2 defenders and a ruck.

BUT, there's risk!

Your midfielders play against the other team's midfielders. Ruck v Ruck, forward v defenders, and defenders v forwards.

So let's take the forward v defenders as an example. For every extra forward you have, each forward gets an extra 5% scoring boost. So if you 5 forwards against 3 defenders, each one of your forwards will be increased by 10%. But, if you have less forwards against defenders, you are penalised 5% + another 5% for every player extra they have. So if you have 3 forwards against the 5 defenders, each one of your forwards score is reduced by 15% (5% penalty + 2 players less).

Teams would be submitted in private.

Interchange is free choice, they count as per normal, but do not count for on field numbers, unless they are required to come in as a late change.

Did that make sense?

I'm wondering if we should test it out EurAsia v AAP Alliance!






Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 17, 2015, 03:03:05 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 17, 2015, 02:59:01 PM
Did that make sense?
As someone who likes simplicity and doesn't like numbers, nope.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on June 17, 2015, 03:05:37 PM
As I said to oz last night, would like to this "hypothesis" tested out before giving a final conclusion, but in theory... it sounds pretty cool to me.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 17, 2015, 04:07:21 PM
Do not like it much at all. How can you pay attention to opponents team when they are lodged in secret?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 17, 2015, 04:08:53 PM
Quote from: Ringo on June 17, 2015, 04:07:21 PM
Do not like it much at all. How can you pay attention to opponents team when they are lodged in secret?

It'd be more looking at that person's squad, and thinking 'hey, that person is only going to have 1 ruck, I could get a real advantage by playing my 3 OR that guy is likely to play 5 forwards, I need to adjust my structure to match it'
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on June 17, 2015, 04:13:42 PM
I really like the idea of introducing fwds vs backs and using it to an advantage somehow, like in real life. Not sure if I'm fully on board with this way to go about it though.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on June 17, 2015, 04:54:55 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 17, 2015, 03:05:37 PM
As I said to oz last night, would like to this "hypothesis" tested out before giving a final conclusion, but in theory... it sounds pretty cool to me.
Maybe could trial it in the pre-season period or after the regular season is over, have the teams who didn't make finals play some friendlies to test it out and see if it'll work.

Quote from: Ricochet on June 17, 2015, 04:13:42 PM
I really like the idea of introducing fwds vs backs and using it to an advantage somehow, like in real life. Not sure if I'm fully on board with this way to go about it though.
I'm with Rico here, but only qualm with me is that it'll be more work for Purps to calculate everything. Makes it realistic but I'd say keep midfielders set, cause it's where the most points can be obtained and teams could just load midfielders to play 6 midfielders and get bonuses on them.

I like the idea though to add strategy, just need to see if it's applicable through a trial period and if it's not too much added work. Submitting teams through PM is interesting.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 17, 2015, 05:07:39 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 17, 2015, 02:59:01 PM
So let's take the forward v defenders as an example. For every extra forward you have, each forward gets an extra 5% scoring boost. So if you 5 forwards against 3 defenders, each one of your forwards will be increased by 10%. But, if you have less forwards against defenders, you are penalised 5% + another 5% for every player extra they have. So if you have 3 forwards against the 5 defenders, each one of your forwards score is reduced by 15% (5% penalty + 2 players less).

Teams would be submitted in private.

Interchange is free choice, they count as per normal, but do not count for on field numbers, unless they are required to come in as a late change.

Did that make sense?

I'm wondering if we should test it out EurAsia v AAP Alliance!

couldnt a legit strategy than say for the case of dublin i have 5 gun forwards. I trade one of my best backman to make it 6 forwards and play 2 6 1 6 each week and just crush people with my forward line, racking up huge bonus points on guys like buddy martin roughy gunston etc..?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 17, 2015, 05:27:29 PM
No Holz because you would be short in other lines and run the very real risk of losing more than you gain

I.e if you play 6 forwards you could only play say 3 mids and 3 defenders, if someone plays 6 mids against you you'd quickly lose the advantage
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 17, 2015, 05:43:04 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 17, 2015, 05:27:29 PM
No Holz because you would be short in other lines and run the very real risk of losing more than you gain

I.e if you play 6 forwards you could only play say 3 mids and 3 defenders, if someone plays 6 mids against you you'd quickly lose the advantage

didnt see that you could play 6 mids. isnt that abit insane given you could than basically just play 8 midfielders. that totally devalues the forward and back positions.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 17, 2015, 05:56:54 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 17, 2015, 05:43:04 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 17, 2015, 05:27:29 PM
No Holz because you would be short in other lines and run the very real risk of losing more than you gain

I.e if you play 6 forwards you could only play say 3 mids and 3 defenders, if someone plays 6 mids against you you'd quickly lose the advantage

didnt see that you could play 6 mids. isnt that abit insane given you could than basically just play 8 midfielders. that totally devalues the forward and back positions.

well champion data has been doing that for a while. And if you played 6 mids you'd be short everywhere else, increasing the value of forwards and defenders
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on June 17, 2015, 06:00:29 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 17, 2015, 05:56:54 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 17, 2015, 05:43:04 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 17, 2015, 05:27:29 PM
No Holz because you would be short in other lines and run the very real risk of losing more than you gain

I.e if you play 6 forwards you could only play say 3 mids and 3 defenders, if someone plays 6 mids against you you'd quickly lose the advantage

didnt see that you could play 6 mids. isnt that abit insane given you could than basically just play 8 midfielders. that totally devalues the forward and back positions.

well champion data has been doing that for a while. And if you played 6 mids you'd be short everywhere else, increasing the value of forwards and defenders
Not really. Midfielders will generally score more, so the bonus you receive from them will be at it's highest. Whereas your forwards and defenders will usually score a fair bit less, so the penalty you receive from having less of them in comparison to your opponent will be pretty low (in comparison to the bonus from your mids).
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 17, 2015, 06:03:09 PM
Which is why the penalty for having less players is more than the benefit of having more

Fyfe scores an extra 5% so lets say 8 points max. Mcdonald punished 10% so lets say 10 points
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on June 17, 2015, 06:12:05 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 17, 2015, 06:03:09 PM
Which is why the penalty for having less players is more than the benefit of having more

Fyfe scores an extra 5% so lets say 8 points max. Mcdonald punished 10% so lets say 10 points
Missed that.

Let's say we name a team with 5 defenders and 3 forwards, and our opponent goes 4 and 4. Would they also get a bonus and penalty? Or does that only apply for when you name a team that isn't of the regular format? I feel like this would be a bit too confusing :P

I don't mind the def/fwd being able to have extra, we can name an extra fwd or def in T10, and whoever you name in the last position of that line gets a 10% bonus or something if they're a 'loose man' so to speak.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 17, 2015, 06:24:48 PM
â–² they'd both get bonus penalties
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on June 18, 2015, 12:49:59 PM
You know what is lacking from this game which I think could be added?

Including key position players in the forward and defence lines. This is something we have in AFL but haven't so far replicated in fantasy games.

To do this how about introducing the FB, CHB, CHF and FF positions in to WXVs.

So for example naming your backline and forward lines like this:

Back Pocket (BP):
Full Back (FB):
Half-Back Flank (HBF):
Centre-Half Back: (CHB):

Centre-Half Forward: (CHF):
Half-Forward Flank (HFF):
Full Forward (FF):
Forward Pocket (FP):

We need to define what makes a key position player (I'd suggest perhaps 190cm or taller) and put the onus on coaches to list the players' heights when posting their teams to save the admins some work.

There'd be no penalty for teams who didn't have a 190cm+ player to name at FB, CHB, CHF and FF positions but if they did have an actual key position player there then the player would get a small scoring bonus (say an extra 5%).

It encourages a bit more strategy/thought when naming teams because you have to think whether a smaller player but a better scorer in general would be worth playing over a key position player in the FB, CHB, CHF or FF posts. For example Cape Town would now have to consider whether Nick Haynes or Will Schofield might be better served in our defence in a key post than say Jasper Pittard or Shane Savage.

It would also give key position players more currency in the off-season and encourage coaches to go after them instead of the mid/fwd or rebounding defender types which are always so popular. Also coaches would be more inclined to hang on to the best key position players who are, in my opinion, the most valuable players in the actual AFL.

Thoughts?

PS - I like the idea of using the All-Stars game to test out ideas like the AFL does with the NAB Cup.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 18, 2015, 01:12:44 PM
Personally I think we have enough things that we do that make Worlds unique and exciting enough.

I feel all these latest suggestions are just going to make a good comp unnecessarily convoluted and add even more work for the admin (even though he's a glutton for punishment :P).
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 18, 2015, 01:46:11 PM
Quote from: Nige on June 18, 2015, 01:12:44 PM
Personally I think we have enough things that we do that make Worlds unique and exciting enough.

I feel all these latest suggestions are just going to make a good comp unnecessarily convoluted and add even more work for the admin (even though he's a glutton for punishment :P).

this is huge, Nige and I agree on something.

finally something well said :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on June 18, 2015, 04:34:59 PM
Always love adding strategy to the game, so love hearing the ideas memph!

I like to think next year will have at least one change; whether it be tiny, or completely re-structure the game.

After my last exam tomorrow, that means I have NOTHING BUT WORLDS to focus on for like the next 3 weeks  :P so I might try and test some of these things out. I'll also try and put forward my take at expansion.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 19, 2015, 12:52:54 PM
What I'd like to see in world's is the ability for 1 team to impact the score of the other - something that all fantasy games lack really

I'd love a tagging player for instance

At the moment there's a bit too much of 'well I played that team on a good day'

Although he doesn't complain at all about it :p Moscow played Cairo on it's one good game of the year which will likely impact his finish.

I'm fine with that, but it would be good if you had your destiny in your own hands a bit
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 19, 2015, 01:15:32 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 19, 2015, 12:52:54 PM
What I'd like to see in world's is the ability for 1 team to impact the score of the other - something that all fantasy games lack really

I'd love a tagging player for instance

At the moment there's a bit too much of 'well I played that team on a good day'

Although he doesn't complain at all about it :p Moscow played Cairo on it's one good game of the year which will likely impact his finish.

I'm fine with that, but it would be good if you had your destiny in your own hands a bit

I reckon a simple tagging is the way to go if that's your goals this postional stuff is abit complex.

one i would like to see if tagging a captain. So for example im playing fyfe this week i put the hard tag on him this week and he gets 1.2 of his score or whatever and I give up my captaincy and only get 1.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 19, 2015, 01:52:32 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 19, 2015, 01:15:32 PM
I reckon a simple tagging is the way to go if that's your goals this postional stuff is abit complex.

one i would like to see if tagging a captain. So for example im playing fyfe this week i put the hard tag on him this week and he gets 1.2 of his score or whatever and I give up my captaincy and only get 1.

Let's simplify it a bit:

Forwards/Defenders
- You can choose whether you play 5 forward and 3 defenders, 4 and 4 or 3 and 5
- If you have +1 forward over opposition defense, each forward is given +5%, while opposition defender loses -10%. Same if +1 defender over opposition attack.
- If you have +2 forward over opposition defense, each forward is given +10%, while opposition defender loses -15%. Same if +2 defenders over opposition attack.

Midfielders
- Can only play 4 midfielders, but you can nominate one midfielder to tag an opposition midfielder (tagger loses 25%, tagged loses 20%). So if Montagna tags Fyfe. Fyfe scores 140 and loses 28 points for being tagged, Montagna scores 80 and loses 20 points for tagging.

Ruck
- You can name a 'pinch-hitter' ruck with NO penalty (must by 190cm tall), but the opposition ruck gets +25%


Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 19, 2015, 02:02:48 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 19, 2015, 01:52:32 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 19, 2015, 01:15:32 PM
I reckon a simple tagging is the way to go if that's your goals this postional stuff is abit complex.

one i would like to see if tagging a captain. So for example im playing fyfe this week i put the hard tag on him this week and he gets 1.2 of his score or whatever and I give up my captaincy and only get 1.

Let's simplify it a bit:

Forwards/Defenders
- You can choose whether you play 5 forward and 3 defenders, 4 and 4 or 3 and 5
- If you have +1 forward over opposition defense, each forward is given +5%, while opposition defender loses -10%. Same if +1 defender over opposition attack.
- If you have +2 forward over opposition defense, each forward is given +10%, while opposition defender loses -15%. Same if +2 defenders over opposition attack.

Midfielders
- Can only play 4 midfielders, but you can nominate one midfielder to tag an opposition midfielder (tagger loses 25%, tagged loses 20%). So if Montagna tags Fyfe. Fyfe scores 140 and loses 28 points for being tagged, Montagna scores 80 and loses 20 points for tagging.

Ruck
- You can name a 'pinch-hitter' ruck with NO penalty (must by 190cm tall), but the opposition ruck gets +25%

love it, even though the rules hurt a team like dublin it should give the weaker teams more of a shot when they can tag 115+ players with spuds. I reckon there should be abit more of a punsihment for tagging but its close.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on June 19, 2015, 02:12:55 PM
Reckon a tagger should have to get within x amount of points of the player they're tagging. Like 40? and if they don't then its not an effective tag. So, like in real life, a gun player can beat the tag
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 19, 2015, 02:31:43 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 19, 2015, 02:12:55 PM
Reckon a tagger should have to get within x amount of points of the player they're tagging. Like 40? and if they don't then its not an effective tag. So, like in real life, a gun player can beat the tag

That's an interesting thought....

... but I think it kind of defeats the purpose. If Ablett scores 200+, that's when you'd want to tag him the most
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 19, 2015, 03:08:37 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 19, 2015, 02:31:43 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 19, 2015, 02:12:55 PM
Reckon a tagger should have to get within x amount of points of the player they're tagging. Like 40? and if they don't then its not an effective tag. So, like in real life, a gun player can beat the tag

That's an interesting thought....

... but I think it kind of defeats the purpose. If Ablett scores 200+, that's when you'd want to tag him the most

but sometimes a player is just way too good and cant be tagged so its kind of realisitc. If he goes 200 it means that he was just on fire and nothing would have stopped him.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 19, 2015, 03:16:22 PM

Not disputing that, but that's in the real world where Ablett is playing some nuff nuff and goes crazy.

Here trying to make it so that you have a legitimate fantasy battle going on between Ablett and the Tagger, playing against each other, in way that is independent on who they play in the real world
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 19, 2015, 03:38:43 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 19, 2015, 03:16:22 PM

Not disputing that, but that's in the real world where Ablett is playing some nuff nuff and goes crazy.

Here trying to make it so that you have a legitimate fantasy battle going on between Ablett and the Tagger, playing against each other, in way that is independent on who they play in the real world

how do you account for some nuff nuff in fantasy tagging Ablett though. Lets take ryan bastinac for example. The guy averages 70 and he comes up against fyfe who averages 130. Given this is a fantasy game Basti is a spud and fyfe is a gun. If basti goes to fyfe than fyfe should just kill him and the tag wouldnt do much. But if instead I know and instead RB puts Pendlebury who is a gun on fyfe than the tag should be more effective. So i like the within limit as it means you might have to put a good player on a star instead of just your worst player.

makes it more realistic in my opinion and there is your level of strategy, the goal of a tagger is to pick your worst player who will come within say the 40 point gap. So if i think fyfe will go 140 this week i need to put a guy who i think will go 100+ on him if not the tag fails and the tagger gets hurt in scoring and the tagee scores 100%.

this is the ideal

<20 great tag: 20% reduction in both
20<X<40 average tag: 20% reduction in tagger 10% in tagee
>40 failed tag: 20% reduction in tagger 0% reduction in tagge
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 19, 2015, 04:08:11 PM
Well, first of if a team can only play 70 averaging midfielders they aren't in great shape.

It does actually reflect real world stuff, most times a 'lesser' player tags the greats. When they don't you get craziness like the Fyfe-Dangerfield thing the other day.

I mean under your proposal, if Bastinac scores 140 and Fyfe 150, he's effectively being punished for scoring higher??

Under your proposal:

Bastinac scores 160 v Fyfe 150: Bastinac loses 32 and Fyfe loses 30: -2
Bastinac scores 140 v Fyfe 150: Bastinac loses 28 and Fyfe loses 30: +2
Bastinac Scores 120 v Fyfe 150: Bastinac loses 24 and Fyfe loses 15: -9
Bastinac Scores 100 v Fyfe 150: Bastinc loses 20 and Fyfe loses: 0: -20

That scoring systems makes tagging just not worth it
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 19, 2015, 04:43:49 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 19, 2015, 01:52:32 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 19, 2015, 01:15:32 PM
I reckon a simple tagging is the way to go if that's your goals this postional stuff is abit complex.

one i would like to see if tagging a captain. So for example im playing fyfe this week i put the hard tag on him this week and he gets 1.2 of his score or whatever and I give up my captaincy and only get 1.

Let's simplify it a bit:

Forwards/Defenders
- You can choose whether you play 5 forward and 3 defenders, 4 and 4 or 3 and 5
- If you have +1 forward over opposition defense, each forward is given +5%, while opposition defender loses -10%. Same if +1 defender over opposition attack.
- If you have +2 forward over opposition defense, each forward is given +10%, while opposition defender loses -15%. Same if +2 defenders over opposition attack.

Midfielders
- Can only play 4 midfielders, but you can nominate one midfielder to tag an opposition midfielder (tagger loses 25%, tagged loses 20%). So if Montagna tags Fyfe. Fyfe scores 140 and loses 28 points for being tagged, Montagna scores 80 and loses 20 points for tagging.

Ruck
- You can name a 'pinch-hitter' ruck with NO penalty (must by 190cm tall), but the opposition ruck gets +25%
Even though I'm generally against this kind of stuff, this is simple enough to work.

For the def/fwd thing, if it's the current Cairo defense (B.Smith, McGovern, N.Smith, Rowe) vs Dublin fwds (Dusty, Buddy, Roughy, Gunston, Walters), I think it's fair to say that the quality between them is massive, if Dulin's fwds who are basically all 'premos' get an added bonus against our defenders as they are who aren't that great for whatever reason, is that fair and does it undo some of the equality we've tried so hard to create?

For the mid thing, would the captain (or co-captains) be exempt from being tagged? If not, it seems like teams would basically make sure the captain gets tagged every week.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 19, 2015, 04:44:23 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 19, 2015, 04:08:11 PM
Well, first of if a team can only play 70 averaging midfielders they aren't in great shape.

It does actually reflect real world stuff, most times a 'lesser' player tags the greats. When they don't you get craziness like the Fyfe-Dangerfield thing the other day.

I mean under your proposal, if Bastinac scores 140 and Fyfe 150, he's effectively being punished for scoring higher??

Under your proposal:

Bastinac scores 160 v Fyfe 150: Bastinac loses 32 and Fyfe loses 30: -2
Bastinac scores 140 v Fyfe 150: Bastinac loses 28 and Fyfe loses 30: +2
Bastinac Scores 120 v Fyfe 150: Bastinac loses 24 and Fyfe loses 15: -9
Bastinac Scores 100 v Fyfe 150: Bastinc loses 20 and Fyfe loses: 0: -20

That scoring systems makes tagging just not worth it

Maybe if you beat your opponent no penalties for either


You can change the numbers around.

Now days alot of teams are putting stars on stars thiugh.

The difference is in afl there are legit average fantasy players who are good taggers, think Crowley. So being q tagger usually results in low fantasy.

However if not having these rules poor fantasy players become the best taggers.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on June 19, 2015, 04:48:26 PM
Quote from: Nige on June 19, 2015, 04:43:49 PM
For the mid thing, would the captain (or co-captains) be exempt from being tagged? If not, it seems like teams would basically make sure the captain gets tagged every week.
Yeh this brings up an interesting point. At what point are teams locked in. Say we can't tag captains, we declare we're tagging a star and at the last minute the team with the star getting the tag decides to make him C or CC. 
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 19, 2015, 04:58:19 PM
Quote from: Nige on June 19, 2015, 04:43:49 PM
For the def/fwd thing, if it's the current Cairo defense (B.Smith, McGovern, N.Smith, Rowe) vs Dublin fwds (Dusty, Buddy, Roughy, Gunston, Walters), I think it's fair to say that the quality between them is massive, if Dulin's fwds who are basically all 'premos' get an added bonus against our defenders as they are who aren't that great for whatever reason, is that fair and does it undo some of the equality we've tried so hard to create?

Well, it isn't about creating equality, it is about creating strategy. In this example I believe you have a lot defenders? So you could match it with 5 defenders.

Quote
For the mid thing, would the captain (or co-captains) be exempt from being tagged? If not, it seems like teams would basically make sure the captain gets tagged every week.

I'd apply bonus/penalties independent of each other. So Pendblebury is Captain and Tagged. He scores 120 + 120 captain bonus - Tagging penalty (So he will get the 120 Captain bonus no matter what).

Quote from: Holz on June 19, 2015, 04:44:23 PM
You can change the numbers around.

Now days alot of teams are putting stars on stars thiugh.

The difference is in afl there are legit average fantasy players who are good taggers, think Crowley. So being q tagger usually results in low fantasy.

However if not having these rules poor fantasy players become the best taggers.


Not against a different method, just the one you proposes Holz gives you a maximum bonus of 4 points (or 0.4 points rounded), and relatively large losses (20, or even more if the starts align).

Beating your opponent would have no penalty on opponent? That doesn't make much sense sorry Holz

Yes, the 15th best player in your team would be the best tagger. But if your 15th best player can only manage 60-70 a week that is actually a decent representative of a tagger. Plus there's no advantage (in fact a big disadvantage) for deliberately selecting a low scoring player. I.e. you wouldn't select a 50 averaging player over a 80 averaging player just to be a tagger.


Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: upthemaidens on June 19, 2015, 05:11:05 PM
If both teams used a tag (and why wouldn't they) doesn't that effectively nullify each other out?

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 19, 2015, 05:19:22 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on June 19, 2015, 05:11:05 PM
If both teams used a tag (and why wouldn't they) doesn't that effectively nullify each other out?

tagging can easily backfire, its not a given people would
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 19, 2015, 05:24:33 PM
How about this - you can 'break' a tag if they start on the bench. So its a risk which player you choose to tag
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on June 19, 2015, 06:21:38 PM
Love the idea Oz, especially the ruck/pinch-hitter one (similar to what i suggested a few pages ago).

And also think that the tagging thing could work. Something like you could nominate your midfielder to 'rotate fwd' like guys like Fyfe and Deledio have this year. If you nominate them to rotate fwd they maybe lose 5% of the score (unless they kick a goal?) but can't lose 20% due to tagging... But if they aren't nominated to rotate fwd then they can be tagged and lose 20%.

I really like the idea though, a lot of possibilities we just need to narrow down the right one.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 21, 2015, 01:44:57 PM
Since we're kinda (but not really) half way through the season, how are teams looking cap wise at this point in time?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 21, 2015, 03:21:57 PM
Quote from: Nige on June 21, 2015, 01:44:57 PM
Since we're kinda (but not really) half way through the season, how are teams looking cap wise at this point in time?

This will be bad, I need more injuries.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on June 21, 2015, 03:49:46 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 21, 2015, 03:21:57 PM
Quote from: Nige on June 21, 2015, 01:44:57 PM
Since we're kinda (but not really) half way through the season, how are teams looking cap wise at this point in time?

This will be bad, I need more injuries.

We're going to be way over the cap this off-season.

All players bar 4 (Plowman, Toohey, N O'Brien and Wagner) from our squad have played at least one game so far this season o.O

So if you want some depth Nigey (or anyone else) come knocking in the off-season and we'll see what we can do :D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on June 21, 2015, 05:22:34 PM
Quote from: Nige on June 21, 2015, 01:44:57 PM
Since we're kinda (but not really) half way through the season, how are teams looking cap wise at this point in time?

Excellent idea! Shall see that tomorrow  :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 21, 2015, 06:24:20 PM
RANCE SIGNED FOR 4 YEARS!!!!!

I was soo woried he would walk away from the game and I would be screwed.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on June 21, 2015, 11:23:05 PM
Nice Bernie! Really needed that from ya this week!

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 22, 2015, 10:16:38 AM
Travis Colyer may have a serious foot injury. :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: AaronKirk on June 22, 2015, 06:35:21 PM
Quote from: Nige on June 22, 2015, 10:16:38 AM
Travis Colyer may have a serious foot injury. :(

Unfortunately he is out for the rest of the season.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 22, 2015, 07:04:09 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on June 22, 2015, 06:35:21 PM
Quote from: Nige on June 22, 2015, 10:16:38 AM
Travis Colyer may have a serious foot injury. :(

Unfortunately he is out for the rest of the season.
Yep, of course.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 22, 2015, 07:06:11 PM
Quote from: Nige on June 22, 2015, 07:04:09 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on June 22, 2015, 06:35:21 PM
Quote from: Nige on June 22, 2015, 10:16:38 AM
Travis Colyer may have a serious foot injury. :(

Unfortunately he is out for the rest of the season.
Yep, of course.

because of the cap injured players will need to go out a premium, so at least thats a positive. (of the injury not the cap, which i still reckon goes :P )
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on June 22, 2015, 07:20:29 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 21, 2015, 06:24:20 PM
RANCE SIGNED FOR 4 YEARS!!!!!

I was soo woried he would walk away from the game and I would be screwed.
Like he was ever going to blow off such a massive contract.  :P

He has YEARS to travel, he came to his senses.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on June 22, 2015, 07:43:42 PM
As requested, below is the state of each team's points cap, both current and projected. I worked out the projected total simply from taking the average amount of points per game, and multiplying that by the remaining amount of games (6).





















TeamCurrentProjected
Beijing Thunder 2029231362
Berlin Brewers1754827118
Buenos Aires Armadillos 1702226304
Cairo Sands 1432322135
Cape Town Cobras 2059031822
Christchurch Saints 1935029904
Dublin Destroyers 2005330991
London Royals 2000830922
Mexico City Suns 1943030026
Moscow Spetsnaz 1891229226
New Delhi Tigers 1090516851
New York Revolution 1903529415
Pacific Islanders 1875628986
PNL Reindeers 2070932007
Rio de Janeiro Jaguars 1714026488
Seoul Magpies 1588124545
Tokyo Samurai 1988230724
Toronto Wolves 1676925913

So 7 teams looking to end up over the cap, and just New Delhi projected to go under it at this stage.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on June 22, 2015, 07:49:09 PM
About as deep as a puddle this year at Toronto :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 22, 2015, 08:01:57 PM
great stuff purp,just want to highlight this though

Dublin Destroyers  20053 ladder position 1
Mexico City Suns  19430  ladder position 5 (but 2nd best team in the comp)

Cape Town Cobras 20590 ladder position 13
London Royals      20008 ladder position 10
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on June 22, 2015, 08:32:18 PM
flower bit of a change in depth for Beijing this year that's for sure! Still a few spuds that just rack up some points that we might be able to piss off at the end of the season.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on June 22, 2015, 09:30:34 PM
24320 up to 29904 will be a good result considering it's the first year players who are mostly responsible for the boost. It's certainly not Gibbs, Minson, Zorko, Gilbert, Clay, Reid or Dawson.

Steele, Lever, McKenzie, McLean, Neal-Bullen, Langford, Andrews and Vandenberg all getting games warms my black heart.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jukes on June 22, 2015, 09:32:13 PM
Missing two of our starting mids sure has helped out our cap situation :P

Greenwood's return will probs set us over tho
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on June 23, 2015, 01:03:29 AM
PNL always has to go over the cap :'(.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on June 23, 2015, 02:22:05 AM
Quote from: Hellopplz on June 23, 2015, 01:03:29 AM
PNL always has to go over the cap :'(.

better then struggling to field a team each week lol
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 23, 2015, 09:52:28 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 23, 2015, 02:22:05 AM
Quote from: Hellopplz on June 23, 2015, 01:03:29 AM
PNL always has to go over the cap :'(.

better then struggling to field a team each week lol
Can confirm.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 23, 2015, 11:14:37 AM
Just shows what happens when you get a couple of players lift on previous seasons. Hanners and Edwards and to a lesser extent Rampe ups your points. Yet to play finals but each year find myself over cap.  Maybe we need a concession for teams not making the 8.  Teams with injuries get advantaged under this points system as well.
Like the system but think it needs some tweaking to remain fair.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 23, 2015, 11:43:23 AM
Personally prefer a flat cap, but I see that being a point.

How about this - so if you are premier you have a max of 28,000 and a min of 17,000 --> and every position you add 500 to it. But you keep the minimum at 22,000

Finish (After Finals)   Max   Min
1st   28000   17000
2nd   28500   17500
3rd   29000   18000
4th   29500   18500
5th   30000   19000
6th   30500   19500
7th   31000   20000
8th   31500   20500
9th   32000   21000
10th   32500   21500
11th   33000   22000
12th   33500   22000
13th   34000   22000
14th   34500   22000
15th   35000   22000
16th   35500   22000
17th   36000   22000
18th   36500   22000
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on June 23, 2015, 11:44:43 AM
I'd support that ^^
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on June 23, 2015, 11:47:10 AM
Is the minimum really needed anymore?? Surely we are past what has happened previously. The minimum cap really does hurt trading for us bottom teams
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 23, 2015, 11:49:03 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 23, 2015, 11:47:10 AM
Is the minimum really needed anymore?? Surely we are past what has happened previously. The minimum cap really does hurt trading for us bottom teams

Buenos Aires proved that it is still important. They'd barely be fielding a team as it is
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 23, 2015, 11:50:42 AM
Maybe refining Oss a little putting into bands rather than individual placings.

1- 4 Max 30,000 Min 19,000
4 - 8 Max 31,000 Min 20,000
8 - 12 Max 32,000 Min 21,000
12 - 16 Max 33,000 Min 22,000
16 - 18 Max 34,000 Min 22,000
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on June 23, 2015, 11:52:12 AM
flowering c(r)ap.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 23, 2015, 11:53:26 AM
No surprises here but i'm very very strongly against this.

Don't punish success. What is this communist Russia?

basically its a massive massive advantage to build a young list miss the 8, load up as the teams who competed are forced to cull their players and than just take the flag.

I don't see any evidence that the cap has had any positives on the comp but i can bring up quite a few negatives. Forced equalization methods like this aren't the way to go. Make sure the bottom teams have good support and lead by good coaches and than giving them advantages in the drafts is the way to go.

the euro might not be well run but its a very very even comp and its not because we only have 14 teams. The free market will always beat a heavily regulated one. Also if you want equalization adding two more teams is the last thing you want to do.


1. scrap the cap
2. tighten the trades with the weaker squads
3. more priority picks for those that need it
4. keep teams to 18
5. have less of a punishment for OOP rucks
6. have less of a punishment for OOP players in general for weaker teams.

essentially less focus on bringing the top down and more focus on bringing the bottom up. that's the way to do things. From both a worlds perspective but more important an economics lesson.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 23, 2015, 11:55:08 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 23, 2015, 11:49:03 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 23, 2015, 11:47:10 AM
Is the minimum really needed anymore?? Surely we are past what has happened previously. The minimum cap really does hurt trading for us bottom teams

Buenos Aires proved that it is still important. They'd barely be fielding a team as it is

I think Buenos Aries prove that caps hurt them. The max hurt them build up depth when they were at the top and also made it tough to trade older players this year to teams as only top teams wanted them and they were over the cap so they werent able to trade their old guys for youth. Secondly the minimum was restrictive on them with good trades for their future being blocked because of it.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 23, 2015, 11:58:29 AM

Caps punish success, I agree

but so do every one of your suggestions Holz

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 23, 2015, 12:03:29 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 23, 2015, 11:58:29 AM

Caps punish success, I agree

but so do every one of your suggestions Holz

they relatively do by only giving benefits to those who are poor.

there is a big difference between giving to the poor and taking from the rich directly and giving to the poor that's what im opposed to. A priority pick for NDT would move me from 18 to 19. thats nothing to me.

the cap forces me to sack my bench and trade in injured players at a premium. That does damage to me next year but more importantly hurts my future.

It will force teams to go the way of the dillos and in need of handouts in the future when it could have been avoided.

If a team cant improve with say pick 1 and 3 in the draft than they aren't running things properly.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 23, 2015, 12:07:19 PM
I still say me helping out Dillos with trade and drafting advice did more to equal the comp than any equalization rules did and I will continue to do so.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: MajorLazer on June 23, 2015, 12:09:04 PM
Teams do improve with pick 1 and 3, but ultimately teams improve more drastically through trading. With different coaches rating different players/picks, it's always gonna be hit and miss. It's really difficult to see the improvement of a team through the draft til further down the track. I don't think we need any changes through this season and offseason. It seems like we are gonna have a stable base of coaches and it gives everyone an opportunity to decide what they are gonna do with their lists. If we still have problems next season, then that could be the time to make a decision, but not yet.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 23, 2015, 12:11:40 PM
Quote from: MajorLazer on June 23, 2015, 12:09:04 PM
Teams do improve with pick 1 and 3, but ultimately teams improve more drastically through trading. With different coaches rating different players/picks, it's always gonna be hit and miss. It's really difficult to see the improvement of a team through the draft til further down the track. I don't think we need any changes through this season and offseason. It seems like we are gonna have a stable base of coaches and it gives everyone an opportunity to decide what they are gonna do with their lists. If we still have problems next season, then that could be the time to make a decision, but not yet.

agree but i have seen issues with the cap every year and issues with the OOP Ruck this year.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 23, 2015, 12:14:36 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 23, 2015, 12:11:40 PM
Quote from: MajorLazer on June 23, 2015, 12:09:04 PM
Teams do improve with pick 1 and 3, but ultimately teams improve more drastically through trading. With different coaches rating different players/picks, it's always gonna be hit and miss. It's really difficult to see the improvement of a team through the draft til further down the track. I don't think we need any changes through this season and offseason. It seems like we are gonna have a stable base of coaches and it gives everyone an opportunity to decide what they are gonna do with their lists. If we still have problems next season, then that could be the time to make a decision, but not yet.

agree but i have seen issues with the cap every year and issues with the OOP Ruck this year.
How'd you let your second team end up with no ruck?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 23, 2015, 12:15:28 PM
Quote from: MajorLazer on June 23, 2015, 12:09:04 PM
Teams do improve with pick 1 and 3, but ultimately teams improve more drastically through trading. With different coaches rating different players/picks, it's always gonna be hit and miss. It's really difficult to see the improvement of a team through the draft til further down the track. I don't think we need any changes through this season and offseason. It seems like we are gonna have a stable base of coaches and it gives everyone an opportunity to decide what they are gonna do with their lists. If we still have problems next season, then that could be the time to make a decision, but not yet.

Great points ML

Ruck issues have mostly been bad luck, except for Buenos Aires who traded them all out
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: MajorLazer on June 23, 2015, 12:18:38 PM
Yeah I understand that, but it seems like every season we've also had coaches leave and huge lists overhauls. Some stability from coaches and lists could be handy to let us take a step back and see the state of the league.

Rucks have almost always been down to injury and seriously if people are struggling to play a ruckman, they should be willing to do more to get one.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 23, 2015, 12:20:23 PM
Quote from: Nige on June 23, 2015, 12:14:36 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 23, 2015, 12:11:40 PM
Quote from: MajorLazer on June 23, 2015, 12:09:04 PM
Teams do improve with pick 1 and 3, but ultimately teams improve more drastically through trading. With different coaches rating different players/picks, it's always gonna be hit and miss. It's really difficult to see the improvement of a team through the draft til further down the track. I don't think we need any changes through this season and offseason. It seems like we are gonna have a stable base of coaches and it gives everyone an opportunity to decide what they are gonna do with their lists. If we still have problems next season, then that could be the time to make a decision, but not yet.

agree but i have seen issues with the cap every year and issues with the OOP Ruck this year.
How'd you let your second team end up with no ruck?
I only stepped in after the first trade period and they dropped redden without me. It wasnt worth a top 5 pick to waste on a ruck so the best I could do was punt on Sam Durdin as a ruck. I picked up Redden for Dublin to help them but was unable to give him to them because of the trading restrictions.

when I have a full trade period to work on it it will be my first goal. Its very very tough though so I would like to see some concession with the OOP rucks or dillos will need to massively overpay for a ruck man, putting their development back a year.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 23, 2015, 12:21:10 PM
Quote from: MajorLazer on June 23, 2015, 12:18:38 PM
Yeah I understand that, but it seems like every season we've also had coaches leave and huge lists overhauls. Some stability from coaches and lists could be handy to let us take a step back and see the state of the league.

Rucks have almost always been down to injury and seriously if people are struggling to play a ruckman, they should be willing to do more to get one.

Anyone out there willing to give up a starting ruckman? if you are send me a PM as im on the look out for one.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: MajorLazer on June 23, 2015, 12:25:15 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 23, 2015, 12:20:23 PM
Quote from: Nige on June 23, 2015, 12:14:36 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 23, 2015, 12:11:40 PM
Quote from: MajorLazer on June 23, 2015, 12:09:04 PM
Teams do improve with pick 1 and 3, but ultimately teams improve more drastically through trading. With different coaches rating different players/picks, it's always gonna be hit and miss. It's really difficult to see the improvement of a team through the draft til further down the track. I don't think we need any changes through this season and offseason. It seems like we are gonna have a stable base of coaches and it gives everyone an opportunity to decide what they are gonna do with their lists. If we still have problems next season, then that could be the time to make a decision, but not yet.

agree but i have seen issues with the cap every year and issues with the OOP Ruck this year.
How'd you let your second team end up with no ruck?
I only stepped in after the first trade period and they dropped redden without me. It wasnt worth a top 5 pick to waste on a ruck so the best I could do was punt on Sam Durdin as a ruck. I picked up Redden for Dublin to help them but was unable to give him to them because of the trading restrictions.

when I have a full trade period to work on it it will be my first goal. Its very very tough though so I would like to see some concession with the OOP rucks or dillos will need to massively overpay for a ruck man, putting their development back a year.
I think that the main thing is that rucks are a valuable position. So what would seem to be overpaying, is just due to their scarcity. Also I understand that some teams were kinda put in a bad situation by previous coaches, but undervaluing rucks and not having a decent ruck is a huge mistake in my eyes.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 23, 2015, 12:30:48 PM
Sorry for starting this.  Only pointing out that when I get a player reaching potential I virtually have to trade them because no one wants the older player.  Tried to get rid of Stanton last year but no one wanted him as an example.
So this year will probably have to trade Hanners, Edwards or Rampe maybe 2 to get another prem and remain below cap.

A solution to this is hard to be fair which is why i have not really commented a lot on it.

Teams that have super premium players out for lengthy periods really benefit from the cap and how do we treat that.
Teams that have O'Meara, Ablett, Swallow, Bennell, Rocky, Mumford, Wells, Liberatore to name some that have missed or will miss at least 6 weeks of the season really benefit as opposed to a team that has mid tier p[layers playing every week.

Been thinking further on this and just wondering whether this may be an option maybe a little complicated but will take away the inconsistencies of the cap and I do not mind being shot down.
Players are categoirsied based on previous performances into 4 tiers
super Premium say players averaging above 105
Mid Premium players averaging between 90 and 105
Other
Rookie players (that is played less than 5 games for the club)  Do away with rookie list as well

Then we list restrictions
Maximum of 7 super premiums and 7 mid premiums per team

Will mean 1/3rd of you list averages more than 90 and will encourage depth being built in others to cover injuries.

Injured players maintain their average so teams do not benefit from injuries as is the case now.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on June 23, 2015, 12:31:52 PM
Can't help but disagree with pretty much everything you bring up Holz.

Quote from: Holz on June 23, 2015, 12:03:29 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 23, 2015, 11:58:29 AM

Caps punish success, I agree

but so do every one of your suggestions Holz

they relatively do by only giving benefits to those who are poor.

there is a big difference between giving to the poor and taking from the rich directly and giving to the poor that's what im opposed to. A priority pick for NDT would move me from 18 to 19. thats nothing to me.

the cap forces me to sack my bench and trade in injured players at a premium. That does damage to me next year but more importantly hurts my future.

It will force teams to go the way of the dillos and in need of handouts in the future when it could have been avoided.

If a team cant improve with say pick 1 and 3 in the draft than they aren't running things properly.


You say that you are forced to cut bench players. That's not entirely true now, is it. The only player you were forced to delist of note was James Podsiadly, and he has done literally nothing this year.

You say that the top teams will go the way of the Dillos... also not true. Look at the youth of your list for goodness sake, you'll be dominating for years. Your old players; Dal Santo, Murphy and Mundy, the former two you deliberately traded in knowing that they won't last long and were for a premiership push. When they retire, you basically pay the price then don't you, for that short term fix. You got the benefit of the premium years they gave you, but when their careers end, the cost is you lose them for nothing (or trade them at a huge discount, like Buenos Aires). That's just the way it is, and shouldn't be brought up as a reason to critique the cap.

Quote from: Holz on June 23, 2015, 11:53:26 AM
I don't see any evidence that the cap has had any positives on the comp but i can bring up quite a few negatives. Forced equalization methods like this aren't the way to go. Make sure the bottom teams have good support and lead by good coaches and than giving them advantages in the drafts is the way to go.

Are you serious? Look at 2013, and look now. The comp is WAY more even. My resurgence in 2013 and continued improvement was entirely due to the depth I acquired in 2013, then traded out to bring in fewer but better players. Beijing and Pacific are also on the same rout, they have acquired mountains of depth now (just look at their cap), with a lot of this acquirement of depth spear-headed by getting above the minimum cap. The minimum cap forces improvement via ensuring you have players playing every week! And usually one of these depth players that weren't very good at every club, break out into a best XV player. Hence, the cap forces you to bring in more AFL ready players, and increases the likelihood of receiving a surprise gem.

Even this year when New Delhi will fall drastically short of the cap, they'll HAVE to bring in more AFL regulars, which ensures they'll have XV players playing most weeks, something they haven't had this year.

And the maximum cap? It is incredibly easy to get under it. There is a plethora of options: 1) required delistings usually bring it under, but if it doesn't 2) trading often does 3) trade depth players for a decent draft pick.... these are beneficial moves. If anything, I would love to see the maximum cap brought down, but I won't.



This is something I heavily supported ossie bringing in at the time, and, like him, and putting the foot down. The cap isn't going anywhere... but is open for modifications.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on June 23, 2015, 12:43:12 PM
Quote from: MajorLazer on June 23, 2015, 12:18:38 PM
Yeah I understand that, but it seems like every season we've also had coaches leave and huge lists overhauls. Some stability from coaches and lists could be handy to let us take a step back and see the state of the league.

Rucks have almost always been down to injury and seriously if people are struggling to play a ruckman, they should be willing to do more to get one.
Exactly. That's what we tried to do anyway

Which is why I'm not that keen on the OOP Ruck new rules everyone is proposing tbh. We went hard after rucks because they are scarce. And now they will be less valuable if these new rules do come in
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: MajorLazer on June 23, 2015, 12:43:41 PM
Quote from: Ringo on June 23, 2015, 12:30:48 PM
Sorry for starting this.  Only pointing out that when I get a player reaching potential I virtually have to trade them because no one wants the older player.  Tried to get rid of Stanton last year but no one wanted him as an example.
So this year will probably have to trade Hanners, Edwards or Rampe maybe 2 to get another prem and remain below cap.

A solution to this is hard to be fair which is why i have not really commented a lot on it.

Teams that have super premium players out for lengthy periods really benefit from the cap and how do we treat that.
Teams that have O'Meara, Ablett, Swallow, Bennell, Rocky, Mumford, Wells, Liberatore to name some that have missed or will miss at least 6 weeks of the season really benefit as opposed to a team that has mid tier p[layers playing every week.

Been thinking further on this and just wondering whether this may be an option maybe a little complicated but will take away the inconsistencies of the cap and I do not mind being shot down.
Players are categoirsied based on previous performances into 4 tiers
super Premium say players averaging above 105
Mid Premium players averaging between 90 and 105
Other
Rookie players (that is played less than 5 games for the club)  Do away with rookie list as well

Then we list restrictions
Maximum of 7 super premiums and 7 mid premiums per team

Will mean 1/3rd of you list averages more than 90 and will encourage depth being built in others to cover injuries.

Injured players maintain their average so teams do not benefit from injuries as is the case now.
Yeah the main thing I think is important to remember is that teams that have these players are already penalised by not having their best players to play each week. I agree that it may seem unfair at the end of the season when it comes to the cap and trading and what not, but during the season (trust me, and I'm sure you've had similar) it's definitely not fun. I'd much rather have Mummy playing all year and cop the cap hit than the situation we have now. Just my two cents on the matter.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on June 23, 2015, 12:45:51 PM
Quote from: Ringo on June 23, 2015, 12:30:48 PM
Then we list restrictions
Maximum of 7 super premiums and 7 mid premiums per team

Will mean 1/3rd of you list averages more than 90 and will encourage depth being built in others to cover injuries.

Injured players maintain their average so teams do not benefit from injuries as is the case now.
You can't punish teams for trading well though. You should be allowed as many premium players as you want providing you're under tha cap. Just means you'd have zero depth, which is the risk you take.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 23, 2015, 12:49:41 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 23, 2015, 12:31:52 PM
Can't help but disagree with pretty much everything you bring up Holz.

Quote from: Holz on June 23, 2015, 12:03:29 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 23, 2015, 11:58:29 AM

Caps punish success, I agree

but so do every one of your suggestions Holz

they relatively do by only giving benefits to those who are poor.

there is a big difference between giving to the poor and taking from the rich directly and giving to the poor that's what im opposed to. A priority pick for NDT would move me from 18 to 19. thats nothing to me.

the cap forces me to sack my bench and trade in injured players at a premium. That does damage to me next year but more importantly hurts my future.

It will force teams to go the way of the dillos and in need of handouts in the future when it could have been avoided.

If a team cant improve with say pick 1 and 3 in the draft than they aren't running things properly.


You say that you are forced to cut bench players. That's not entirely true now, is it. The only player you were forced to delist of note was James Podsiadly, and he has done literally nothing this year.

You say that the top teams will go the way of the Dillos... also not true. Look at the youth of your list for goodness sake, you'll be dominating for years. Your old players; Dal Santo, Murphy and Mundy, the former two you deliberately traded in knowing that they won't last long and were for a premiership push. When they retire, you basically pay the price then don't you, for that short term fix. You got the benefit of the premium years they gave you, but when their careers end, the cost is you lose them for nothing (or trade them at a huge discount, like Buenos Aires). That's just the way it is, and shouldn't be brought up as a reason to critique the cap.

Quote from: Holz on June 23, 2015, 11:53:26 AM
I don't see any evidence that the cap has had any positives on the comp but i can bring up quite a few negatives. Forced equalization methods like this aren't the way to go. Make sure the bottom teams have good support and lead by good coaches and than giving them advantages in the drafts is the way to go.

Are you serious? Look at 2013, and look now. The comp is WAY more even. My resurgence in 2013 and continued improvement was entirely due to the depth I acquired in 2013, then traded out to bring in fewer but better players. Beijing and Pacific are also on the same rout, they have acquired mountains of depth now (just look at their cap), with a lot of this acquirement of depth spear-headed by getting above the minimum cap. The minimum cap forces improvement via ensuring you have players playing every week! And usually one of these depth players that weren't very good at every club, break out into a best XV player. Hence, the cap forces you to bring in more AFL ready players, and increases the likelihood of receiving a surprise gem.

Even this year when New Delhi will fall drastically short of the cap, they'll HAVE to bring in more AFL regulars, which ensures they'll have XV players playing most weeks, something they haven't had this year.

And the maximum cap? It is incredibly easy to get under it. There is a plethora of options: 1) required delistings usually bring it under, but if it doesn't 2) trading often does 3) trade depth players for a decent draft pick.... these are beneficial moves. If anything, I would love to see the maximum cap brought down, but I won't.



This is something I heavily supported ossie bringing in at the time, and, like him, and putting the foot down. The cap isn't going anywhere... but is open for modifications.

ill right a long reply when I have the time and respect your opinion.

just a note, the cap helps Dublin but i think certain teams it hurts and thats evident with Dillos. my opinion os for the sake of the comp, the cap stops alot of teams challenging me so if it stays from that perspective I dont mind.

the rich almost always end up exploiting the situation, its the middle class who suffer. I would have over paid for Stanton last year but didn't because of the cap. I probably would have given up players like tom mcdonald, scharenberg, bruce example to Dillos for their old players last year.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on June 23, 2015, 01:01:45 PM
Not sure if the minimum cap is necessary. Teams that are struggling will want to get in youth (who haven't played a game), or getting rid of all their depth to try and improve their Best XV (probably going to lower their cap as well). The max is fine for now I guess, but I'd say the coaches we have right now are competent enough so that we don't need a min for the cap.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 23, 2015, 01:04:35 PM

Min cap is designed so that coaches don't sacrifice being able to play 15 every week for the sake of the future. 22000 isn't much
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 23, 2015, 01:14:19 PM
Quote from: GoLions on June 23, 2015, 12:45:51 PM
Quote from: Ringo on June 23, 2015, 12:30:48 PM
Then we list restrictions
Maximum of 7 super premiums and 7 mid premiums per team

Will mean 1/3rd of you list averages more than 90 and will encourage depth being built in others to cover injuries.

Injured players maintain their average so teams do not benefit from injuries as is the case now.
You can't punish teams for trading well though. You should be allowed as many premium players as you want providing you're under tha cap. Just means you'd have zero depth, which is the risk you take.
And conversely I should not be penalised for trying to build depth with a team that will be competitive in 2 years which the cap is forcing me to as I have to play these developing players each week so it lifts my cap. Why as i said earlier should I have to trade these developing players to stay below a cap because no one wants the old players which I have to also play for balance.

Know not easy to resolve.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 23, 2015, 01:16:29 PM
Quote from: Ringo on June 23, 2015, 01:14:19 PM
Quote from: GoLions on June 23, 2015, 12:45:51 PM
Quote from: Ringo on June 23, 2015, 12:30:48 PM
Then we list restrictions
Maximum of 7 super premiums and 7 mid premiums per team

Will mean 1/3rd of you list averages more than 90 and will encourage depth being built in others to cover injuries.

Injured players maintain their average so teams do not benefit from injuries as is the case now.
You can't punish teams for trading well though. You should be allowed as many premium players as you want providing you're under tha cap. Just means you'd have zero depth, which is the risk you take.
And conversely I should not be penalised for trying to build depth with a team that will be competitive in 2 years which the cap is forcing me to as I have to play these developing players each week so it lifts my cap. Why as i said earlier should I have to trade these developing players to stay below a cap because no one wants the old players which I have to also play for balance.

Know not easy to resolve.
no cap solved :)
I wont harp on about it though respect the admin's view. Ill always challenge it but whatever they go with ill follow along.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on June 23, 2015, 01:21:15 PM
Quote from: Ringo on June 23, 2015, 01:14:19 PM
Quote from: GoLions on June 23, 2015, 12:45:51 PM
Quote from: Ringo on June 23, 2015, 12:30:48 PM
Then we list restrictions
Maximum of 7 super premiums and 7 mid premiums per team

Will mean 1/3rd of you list averages more than 90 and will encourage depth being built in others to cover injuries.

Injured players maintain their average so teams do not benefit from injuries as is the case now.
You can't punish teams for trading well though. You should be allowed as many premium players as you want providing you're under tha cap. Just means you'd have zero depth, which is the risk you take.
And conversely I should not be penalised for trying to build depth with a team that will be competitive in 2 years which the cap is forcing me to as I have to play these developing players each week so it lifts my cap. Why as i said earlier should I have to trade these developing players to stay below a cap because no one wants the old players which I have to also play for balance.

Know not easy to resolve.
You should be able to trade some of those developing players for draft picks to weaker teams under the cap though mate
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: AaronKirk on June 23, 2015, 01:31:01 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 23, 2015, 12:15:28 PM
Quote from: MajorLazer on June 23, 2015, 12:09:04 PM
Teams do improve with pick 1 and 3, but ultimately teams improve more drastically through trading. With different coaches rating different players/picks, it's always gonna be hit and miss. It's really difficult to see the improvement of a team through the draft til further down the track. I don't think we need any changes through this season and offseason. It seems like we are gonna have a stable base of coaches and it gives everyone an opportunity to decide what they are gonna do with their lists. If we still have problems next season, then that could be the time to make a decision, but not yet.

Great points ML

Ruck issues have mostly been bad luck, except for Buenos Aires who traded them all out

Don't talk about rucks... I convinced myself that trading in Blicavs was going to be a masterstroke and then got convinced that trading him out was a good idea... how much is his PPG slaughtering Pyke by?

Trade 4
New York Give: Allen Christensen + Pick 26
Mexico City Give: Mark Blicavs + Jarrad Waite + Jed Adcock + Pick 73

The above would in theory be a win slightly to us.

Trade 14
New York give: Mark Blicavs and Darcy Lang
Cape Town give: Nathan Vardy and Jamie Bennell

How the heck did I agree to that  ::)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on June 23, 2015, 01:37:27 PM
In my opinion the cap is what makes World XVs the best XVs competition.

It's another added element of strategy/intrigue and I'm all for more of this. I think in the long run it will help even out the competition which is where we are getting towards now.

Having a minimum cap is essential as well even though it may hurt some 'rebuilding' teams. Look at some of the other XV competitions without the cap and you can see several teams who are really struggling due going all out youth.

That makes for some pretty boring years for those teams (two of my teams come to mind - Taiwan and Staines). Those sides will be competitive in a few seasons once the kids develop but for now it's essentially just a free win when you come up against them.

The cap also allows for unlimited trading (because of the restrictions of going over/under the cap) which I love. It does put a bit of an unhealthy emphasis/price on injured players in the off-season though but, I'm not sure we can do anything about that.

Also for those of you interested in a ruck we could perhaps put Billy Longer on the trade table in the offseason.

Longer was recruited as a back up ruck to Martin but, then Blicavs has come on (and boy how has he come on) so Longer has become a tradeable asset. He's first choice as well at the Saints it seems

Longer is also an example of paying a good price to secure a ruck though.

At the time we gave up a decent midfielder and our first and second round draft picks to secure Longer and a young, unproven forward and a fourth round pick. That's a pretty hefty price to pay to get a guy who at the time wasn't even a guaranteed #1 ruck.

Cape Town give: Cameron Guthrie + NAT #9 (Liam Duggan) + NAT #34 (Matthew Goodyear)
Pacific give: Billy Longer + Cameron McCarthy + NAT #59 (We ended upgrading this to Nat 57 = Jaden McGrath)

If you look at the trade now it seems like we didn't pay as much and got a reasonable deal but, that's more due to McCarthy's development who was previously an unproven forward.

Long term I have my doubts if we'll win the deal as Duggan looks a gun and Guthrie could be too if he stops tagging but Longer is a first choice ruck, McCarthy looks a hidden gem and McGrath showed some good signs in the games he played earlier this year.

PS - We also picked up Peter Wright in the draft because of the ruck shortages. We know he's going to have no impact for us for the next few seasons but, in the long term he'll either become a first choice player or have a lot of currency because of the lack of ruck options around the place.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on June 23, 2015, 01:37:57 PM
As a team that's experienced being both below the cap, and (looking like) being over it at the end of this season, I personally don't see a problem with it. It forced us to bring in much better depth, which has been very handy so far this year, and means that we haven't completely sacrificed the now for the future.

Also Ringo, I don't want to see the rookie list scrapped, adds a bit more strategy and I really like it!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on June 23, 2015, 01:39:00 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on June 23, 2015, 01:31:01 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 23, 2015, 12:15:28 PM
Quote from: MajorLazer on June 23, 2015, 12:09:04 PM
Teams do improve with pick 1 and 3, but ultimately teams improve more drastically through trading. With different coaches rating different players/picks, it's always gonna be hit and miss. It's really difficult to see the improvement of a team through the draft til further down the track. I don't think we need any changes through this season and offseason. It seems like we are gonna have a stable base of coaches and it gives everyone an opportunity to decide what they are gonna do with their lists. If we still have problems next season, then that could be the time to make a decision, but not yet.

Great points ML

Ruck issues have mostly been bad luck, except for Buenos Aires who traded them all out

Don't talk about rucks... I convinced myself that trading in Blicavs was going to be a masterstroke and then got convinced that trading him out was a good idea... how much is his PPG slaughtering Pyke by?

Trade 4
New York Give: Allen Christensen + Pick 26
Mexico City Give: Mark Blicavs + Jarrad Waite + Jed Adcock + Pick 73

The above would in theory be a win slightly to us.

Trade 14
New York give: Mark Blicavs and Darcy Lang
Cape Town give: Nathan Vardy and Jamie Bennell

How the heck did I agree to that  ::)

:D :D :D :D :D :D

This is turning in to the best trade I've been part of in an XV comp. Lang and Blicavs are killing it this year. To the point where I'd feel bad for New York ... until I remember that they beat us this week  >:(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 23, 2015, 01:44:12 PM
Quote from: Toga on June 23, 2015, 01:37:57 PM
As a team that's experienced being both below the cap, and (looking like) being over it at the end of this season, I personally don't see a problem with it. It forced us to bring in much better depth, which has been very handy so far this year, and means that we haven't completely sacrificed the now for the future.

Also Ringo, I don't want to see the rookie list scrapped, adds a bit more strategy and I really like it!
Conversely, as a team that has been over and is now on the opposite end where we're not too far above the minimum, I'm very happy the cap is in place. It works well and does the job it's in place to do. I honestly don't even think it needs modification.

For us, we weren't dramatically over the cap but we traded out more than we should have (hindsight is a wonderful thing), so it's not hard to get below and it's honestly not hard to get above. The problem really just lies in coaches not wanting to acquire depth because their lists are 'young' or are too attached to their lists or committed to a premiership push to cull some players.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 23, 2015, 01:54:58 PM

Loving the passion and discussion from everyone
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 23, 2015, 01:59:07 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on June 23, 2015, 01:31:01 PM
Trade 14
New York give: Mark Blicavs and Darcy Lang
Cape Town give: Nathan Vardy and Jamie Bennell

How the heck did I agree to that  ::)

LOL that didn't work out well for us!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on June 23, 2015, 02:00:37 PM
Someone give us a playing defender for Warnock + Gorringe + Brooksby + Pierce :p
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 23, 2015, 02:02:04 PM
Quote from: elephants on June 23, 2015, 02:00:37 PM
Someone give us a playing defender for Warnock + Gorringe + Brooksby + Pierce :p
Cairo give: Fletcher Roberts
New Delhi give: Daniel Gorringe and Keegan Brooksby

elephants/Ricochet to confirm.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on June 23, 2015, 02:03:53 PM
Nige pls, we don't trade with sides significantly worse than us ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on June 23, 2015, 02:06:35 PM
Quote from: elephants on June 23, 2015, 02:00:37 PM
Someone give us a playing defender for Warnock + Gorringe + Brooksby + Pierce :p
Leaving us with Nicholls, Clarke, Hannath, Apeness, Nankervis.

Just need Sandi to hurry up and retire
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 23, 2015, 02:07:50 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 23, 2015, 02:06:35 PM
Quote from: elephants on June 23, 2015, 02:00:37 PM
Someone give us a playing defender for Warnock + Gorringe + Brooksby + Pierce :p
Leaving us with Nicholls, Clarke, Hannath, Apeness, Nankervis.

Just need Sandi to hurry up and retire

Craig Moller steps in and take over.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 23, 2015, 02:08:38 PM
Quote from: elephants on June 23, 2015, 02:03:53 PM
Nige pls, we don't trade with sides significantly worse than us ;)
:'(

Maybe we can include Tokyo in a three-way trade or something, Phillips would be nice.  :-X
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on June 23, 2015, 02:09:48 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 23, 2015, 02:07:50 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 23, 2015, 02:06:35 PM
Quote from: elephants on June 23, 2015, 02:00:37 PM
Someone give us a playing defender for Warnock + Gorringe + Brooksby + Pierce :p
Leaving us with Nicholls, Clarke, Hannath, Apeness, Nankervis.

Just need Sandi to hurry up and retire

Craig Moller steps in and take over.
Moller's next step is regular league games for Peel...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 23, 2015, 02:49:24 PM
Most seem to be missing my 2 main points and love the passion here and will work with what is decided.

1) I adopted a strategy 2 years ago to try and get youngsters to develop into a strong team for the future. As a result of playing them each week which I had to do points are inflated to above cap. (I am probably the only team who has been over the cap but not in the top 8 and forced to delist some depth that I was developing as part of strategy).

2) Teams despite having players not play due to injury can retain their prems as cap not effected. Stanton for Liberatore will assist but will not eventuate to illustrate my point.  Stanton is effecting my cap but Liberatore is not to the team with him. This is my main reason for saying cap not fair.  Would be happy if for cap purposes injured prems are only discounted by an agreed figure not a 0 for the year.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on June 23, 2015, 02:55:50 PM
Yeah get what you mean Ringo, I guess it adds value to injured players. Guess you can look at it one of two ways: either it compensates teams that have seen their guns injured, reducing the impact of that injury slightly, OR maybe injured players should be given some sort of weighting to discount the effects that injuries have on the cap.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on June 23, 2015, 02:56:30 PM
Quote from: Ringo on June 23, 2015, 02:49:24 PM
Would be happy if for cap purposes injured prems are only discounted by an agreed figure not a 0 for the year.
Don't mind that ^
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 23, 2015, 02:56:53 PM
Quote from: Ringo on June 23, 2015, 02:49:24 PM
Most seem to be missing my 2 main points and love the passion here and will work with what is decided.

1) I adopted a strategy 2 years ago to try and get youngsters to develop into a strong team for the future. As a result of playing them each week which I had to do points are inflated to above cap. (I am probably the only team who has been over the cap but not in the top 8 and forced to delist some depth that I was developing as part of strategy).

2) Teams despite having players not play due to injury can retain their prems as cap not effected. Stanton for Liberatore will assist but will not eventuate to illustrate my point.  Stanton is effecting my cap but Liberatore is not to the team with him. This is my main reason for saying cap not fair.  Would be happy if for cap purposes injured prems are only discounted by an agreed figure not a 0 for the year.

I couldnt agree with you more Ringo. when i said the cap hurts teams i was referring to ones such as yourself. You cant keep the depth hoping some of them turn into stars to help you push up the ladder and you cant keep your guns together to push into that top bracket. There is nothing really you can do to catch teams like Dublin. The usual progression would be keep the youth, trade out guys like stanton to me, than ill fall away and you turn into a powerhouse later.

at the moment I see it hard to move much out of that middle team bracket. The best and maybe only way would be delist all your guys over 28. Tank hard and pick up kids in the draft.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on June 23, 2015, 02:58:03 PM
We went from being on the fringes of under the cap, to being over it in the matter of one season.

It can be done. The rules are fine.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 23, 2015, 02:58:22 PM
Quote from: Ringo on June 23, 2015, 02:49:24 PM
Most seem to be missing my 2 main points and love the passion here and will work with what is decided.

1) I adopted a strategy 2 years ago to try and get youngsters to develop into a strong team for the future. As a result of playing them each week which I had to do points are inflated to above cap. (I am probably the only team who has been over the cap but not in the top 8 and forced to delist some depth that I was developing as part of strategy).

2) Teams despite having players not play due to injury can retain their prems as cap not effected. Stanton for Liberatore will assist but will not eventuate to illustrate my point.  Stanton is effecting my cap but Liberatore is not to the team with him. This is my main reason for saying cap not fair.  Would be happy if for cap purposes injured prems are only discounted by an agreed figure not a 0 for the year.

Hey Ringo,

For 1), note it doesn't matter if the players are playing in seniors or not, it still counts towards the cap. Not sure if that's what you mean, but thought I'd clarify. The Cap should, theoretically, help teams who are carrying players who are scoring lower for the future. Take Rampe for example, played for a couple of years scoring low, and is now only just starting to show benefit. I don't think you were the only team over the cap not in the top 8.

For 2), Yeah, that can be an issue. I wonder if we should use the 'max' score of the last two years. I.e. that would mean Rockliff's 2014 score would count instead of the 2015 score.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on June 23, 2015, 03:02:08 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 23, 2015, 02:58:22 PM
For 2), Yeah, that can be an issue. I wonder if we should use the 'max' score of the last two years. I.e. that would mean Rockliff's 2014 score would count instead of the 2015 score.
Maybe a % of the max score. The team has already suffered by not having that player for most the year, so if he still counts for 100% of his points it may be a little unfair.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on June 23, 2015, 04:07:32 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 23, 2015, 02:06:35 PM
Just need Sandi to hurry up and retire

Got at least 10 years left. Has no pace to lose, isn't going to shrink. Injuries are a thing of the past. And to think I only had to give up a spud like Rocky to get this gun!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 23, 2015, 04:15:22 PM
Quote from: meow meow on June 23, 2015, 04:07:32 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 23, 2015, 02:06:35 PM
Just need Sandi to hurry up and retire

Got at least 10 years left. Has no pace to lose, isn't going to shrink. Injuries are a thing of the past. And to think I only had to give up a spud like Rocky to get this gun!

would you rather Boak + Gunston or Gibbs + Sandi?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on June 23, 2015, 04:22:17 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 23, 2015, 04:15:22 PM
Quote from: meow meow on June 23, 2015, 04:07:32 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 23, 2015, 02:06:35 PM
Just need Sandi to hurry up and retire

Got at least 10 years left. Has no pace to lose, isn't going to shrink. Injuries are a thing of the past. And to think I only had to give up a spud like Rocky to get this gun!

would you rather Boak + Gunston or Gibbs + Sandi?

Oh yep because that was the exact trade wasn't it? In case you haven't noticed, Wilbur has been missing most of the year and I'd be screwed without a ruck, so my team is better off for having done the trade.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on June 23, 2015, 04:45:16 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 23, 2015, 03:02:08 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 23, 2015, 02:58:22 PM
For 2), Yeah, that can be an issue. I wonder if we should use the 'max' score of the last two years. I.e. that would mean Rockliff's 2014 score would count instead of the 2015 score.
Maybe a % of the max score. The team has already suffered by not having that player for most the year, so if he still counts for 100% of his points it may be a little unfair.

How about we just have a similar injury discount that the fantasy games do?

So take the players previous season average and discount it depending on how many games they missed.

I think for SC/AFL Fantasy is is a maximum of 40% injury discount if the player missed the whole season and then in a decreasing scale up until 10 games (or is it 7?).

So if you play 1 game you get a 36% discount, 2 games a 32% discount, 3 games a 28% discount and so on down to if you played 10 games you get 0% discount (and use the 2015 avg not the 2014 one).

Thinking on my feet here but, maybe, just maybe we could do similar for non-injured players and make it so any player who's played under 10 games for the season gets a discount to their salary?

That way the teams with the good youngsters could hold on to them longer and not have to worry about going over their cap the first season or two that these kids got a game because they wouldn't count as much?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 23, 2015, 04:49:49 PM
Quote from: meow meow on June 23, 2015, 04:22:17 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 23, 2015, 04:15:22 PM
Quote from: meow meow on June 23, 2015, 04:07:32 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 23, 2015, 02:06:35 PM
Just need Sandi to hurry up and retire

Got at least 10 years left. Has no pace to lose, isn't going to shrink. Injuries are a thing of the past. And to think I only had to give up a spud like Rocky to get this gun!

would you rather Boak + Gunston or Gibbs + Sandi?

Oh yep because that was the exact trade wasn't it? In case you haven't noticed, Wilbur has been missing most of the year and I'd be screwed without a ruck, so my team is better off for having done the trade.

its not a year game though
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: AaronKirk on June 23, 2015, 05:05:23 PM
I agree with the points Ringo made and like the idea of Memph in relation to discounts in points for injured players being the same rates as SC.

Just to make it clear though Libba isn't gong to be traded  ;) Perma captain in 2016.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on June 23, 2015, 08:22:57 PM
Trade Review (Part 1)

There's still a large chunk of the season remaining but it could be interesting to look at how our trades are shaping up at this point. Not much else to do over the bye.

New Delhi give: N66
Christchurch give: Jack Hannath

The definition of meh


Dildos trade: Pick 90
Christchurch trade: Dennis Armfield

See above


Christchurch trade: Jay Kennedy-Harris
Berlin trade: Clay Cameron

Same again


Christchurch trade: pick 92
New York trade: Shaun McKernan

And again


Cairo give: Sam Mitchell and Pick 33
Christchurch give: Nick Smith and Travis Colyer

Mitchell averaged 91 last year, back up to 108 this year and has signed on for another season. Colyer and Smith have improved but Colyer's season is over. The pick was used in a later trade. Very happy with this one.


Christchurch trade: Mitch Golby
Berlin trade: Jeff Garlett

Golby 5 games @49 vs Jeff 12 @72. Would call it a win at this point and I'm glad I could procure the services of Jeffy before he had some Demon stink on him. If only he could kick straight.


Cairo trade: Pick 85
Christchurch trade: Tom Downie

Cairo trade: Tory Dickson
Christchurch trade: pick 85

Tom Downie n/a vs Dickson 11 @81. No Dickson, No Cairo. No lube.


New York trade: Pick 30
Christchurch trade: Luke Lowden

Rio Give: Nat 24 + Nat 25
Christchurch Give: H.McIntosh +Nat 30 + Nat 41

Ditched a couple of nothing rucks to turn pick 41 into 24 and 25. Like it.


Christchurch trade: Taylor Adams, Dale Morris and pick 7
Dildos trade: Matthew Boyd, picks 8 and 26

Wanted Steele and knew he'd be there at 8 so losing one spot meant nothing. Adams has been very good (9 @88) and Boyd has been great (9 @104) and will most likely play on as a defender next year. Pick 26 was packaged with pick 33 (Mitchell deal) for 19 (Neal-Bullen) and 41 (used in ruck deal above).


Pacific trade: Jamie Elliot and pick 27
Christchurch trade: Devon Smith

Christchurch give: Pick 27
Beijing give: Clay Smith

D.Smith (12 @89) vs Elliott (11 @82) is a loss but may have been worth it if Clay didn't do his 3rd ACL. 'jing winners here, Pacific would be pretty happy too. I still think Elliott can match Smith by the end of the year.


Tokyo trade: Luke Shuey and Ben Reid
Christchurch trade: Chris Yarran and Shuan Burgoyne

Yarran (7 @72) + Burgoyne (11 @86) vs Shuey (12 @95) and Reid (n/a...yet!)

Doesn't look too bad and if I had kept the defenders whatever I gained there would have been lost by having to play a 70 averaging mid anyway. Happy to have Shuey for the long term and hopefully Reid can come back and match Yarran who has been disappointing. Would do it again.


Mexico City give: Nathan Hrovat, Sam Gilbert, Tom Curren + Pick 18
Mexico City receive: Brad Ebert, Zak Jones, Taylor Hunt + Picks 46, 86

Christchurch give: Lachie Whitfield, Zak Jones + Pick 36
Christchurch receive: Nathan Hrovat, Sam Gilbert + Pick 22

Seoul give: Brad Ebert, Taylor Hunt + Picks 22, 46, 86
Seoul receive: Lachie Whitfield, Eli Templeton + Picks 18, 36

New Delhi give: Eli Templeton
New Delhi receive: Tom Curren

I'll only comment on my part of this trade. 22 (Langford) for Jones I would take every day. Gilbert for 36 remains to be seen. Whitfield for Hrovat was a mistake despite Hrovat gaining forward status as hoped for. LW has been good without being outstanding though (11 @84) so it doesn't hurt as bad as it could have. Bad trade on my part.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on June 23, 2015, 08:35:17 PM
Tory Dickson is the only player that I've coached at both clubs.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on June 23, 2015, 09:08:42 PM
Nice m2! Will have to do one for us at some point as well.

Was a bit unsure about our Clay Smith for pick trade as Clay could be a gun when fit but it has turned out well for us. Just a shame that we win on this one purely because Clay has done his knee again!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 23, 2015, 09:13:27 PM
The Colyer/N.Smith trade hasn't been a bad one for us, I'm kinda glad we did it (though having Smitchell scoring well every week would be nice considering we're struggling to field 4 mids).

The Dickson trade was a shocker, we could probably use him or could have at some points this year. Downie's semi-important since we've 3/4 of the GWS ruck stocks.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on June 23, 2015, 09:27:57 PM
i don't mind the injury discount idea

though i do not like the discount for playing less then 10 games
(unless injured ofc i mean)....if they purely playing less due to no being ready you still should not get a discount otherwise you could stockpile a fair few and hope they all start firing (i.e youth hoarding instead fo trying to improve)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on June 23, 2015, 09:36:41 PM
Good read meow!

Fairly happy with my JKH trade, but yeah you definitely have come out better with Jeffy.

However, I don't mind too much as Jeffy would not have played a game for me this year, whereas Golby has, so I would do it again.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on June 26, 2015, 12:15:01 PM
I saw a few posts about perhaps having a champions league. I have enough time to run a tournament style comp. If there is enough interest we can get it underway!

Was going to run it basically the same as a FIFA World Cup. Total of 32 teams with the top 8 teams from each of the 4 XV comps getting in. Will be run from AFL Rounds 16 through til 22. Once we have the 32 teams we can randomise them and arrange them into groups.

Group Rounds
AFL Round 16
AFL Round 17
AFL Round 18

Round of 16
AFL Round 19

Quater Finals
AFL Round 20

Semi-Finals
AFL Round 21

Grand Final
AFL Round 22


Group A
1
2
3
4

Group B
1
2
3
4

Group C
1
2
3
4

Group D
1
2
3
4

Group E
1
2
3
4

Group F
1
2
3
4

Group G
1
2
3
4

Group H
1
2
3
4


Round of 16 Fixtures:
Match 1:
Winner of Group A
VS
Runner Up of Group B

Match 2:
Winner of Group B
VS
Runner Up of Group A

Match 3:
Winner of Group C
VS
Runner Up of Group D

Match 4:
Winner of Group D
VS
Runner Up of Group C

Match 5:
Winner of Group E
VS
Runner Up of Group F

Match 6:
Winner of Group F
VS
Runner Up of Group E

Match 7:
Winner of Group G
VS
Runner Up of Group H

Match 8:
Winner of Group H
VS
Runner Up of Group G


Quarter Finals Fixtures:
QF 1:
Winner of Match 1
VS
Winner of Match 3

QF 2:
Winner of Match 2
VS
Winner of Match 4

QF 3:
Winner of Match 5
VS
Winner of Match 7

QF 4:
Winner of Match 6
VS
Winner of Match 8


Semi Finals Fixtures:
SF 1:
Winner of QF 1
VS
Winner of QF 3

SF 2:
Winner of QF 2
VS
Winner of QF 4


Grand Final Fixture:
Winner of SF 1
VS
Winner of SF 2


The only problem will be the scoring and which system to use. Am happy to hear suggestions.

Scoring Options:
- Plain Supercoach scoring
- Plain Dreamteam scoring
- Plain Sportsbet scoring
- (SC+DT)/2
- (SC+DT+SB)/3

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on June 26, 2015, 12:17:16 PM
Would love to see a Champions league, so I fully support this :)

However, IMO I reckon the fairest (and most time consuming way) would be (SC + DT + SB)/3
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on June 26, 2015, 12:21:57 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 26, 2015, 12:17:16 PM
Would love to see a Champions league, so I fully support this :)

However, IMO I reckon the fairest (and most time consuming way) would be (SC + DT + SB)/3
100% with both these. Well done Levi too for running it.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on June 26, 2015, 12:26:29 PM
Set up an official thread in the XV's competition's board:

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,103822.0.html
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 26, 2015, 04:36:17 PM
I of course liked my ratio model from the original champs league. The ratio calc could use tweaking. Its the fastest to admin aswell.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on June 27, 2015, 05:40:40 PM
Just quietly Liam Shiels putting up his 4th 120+ score in 6 weeks! The man can score!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 27, 2015, 05:59:50 PM
Quote from: Toga on June 27, 2015, 05:40:40 PM
Just quietly Liam Shiels putting up his 4th 120+ score in 6 weeks! The man can score!

always had the potential just needs the right role.

i remember when he was traded for joel selwood in the euro.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on June 27, 2015, 07:06:10 PM
Definitely, not playing that more defensive minded role that he has in recent years has let him step it up a bit. Iirc he was traded to us for Andrew Swallow before I came in as coach as well..
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on June 28, 2015, 01:12:52 PM
Yeah Swallow for Shiels was one of my best ever coups, however this season Shiels has really lifted and Swallow has plateaued since his achilles injury a couple of years back
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 28, 2015, 02:12:33 PM
Our midfield is literally Beams and Dunstan.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jukes on June 28, 2015, 05:52:10 PM
Heppell, Ward, Gray, Armitage, O'Meara, Greenwood, Sheed, Bastinac :D

If only they weren't all injured
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 28, 2015, 05:55:44 PM
Quote from: Bane on June 28, 2015, 05:52:10 PM
Heppell, Ward, Gray, Armitage, O'Meara, Greenwood, Sheed, Bastinac :D

If only they weren't all injured

great for the cap. I have too many playing. lucky sloane is gone
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on June 28, 2015, 06:18:23 PM
If Krooz can find some form that will really add another factor to our team. Tommy Bell with another huge performance today as well 8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on June 28, 2015, 06:19:23 PM
Would love Brad Crouch to come back any day now...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 28, 2015, 06:25:46 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 28, 2015, 06:19:23 PM
Would love Brad Crouch to come back any day now...
Came off early today in SANFL so may be injured again.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on June 28, 2015, 06:55:37 PM
Quote from: meow meow on May 15, 2015, 06:48:24 PM
McKernan to do a Stefan Martin and turn into a premo ruck.

Are you paying attention London? We'll talk come trade time.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 02, 2015, 02:32:20 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 12, 2014, 10:20:22 PM
J.Roughead - will miss 8 weeks with severe sunburn

Close!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on July 02, 2015, 04:27:33 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 02, 2015, 02:32:20 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 12, 2014, 10:20:22 PM
J.Roughead - will miss 8 weeks with severe sunburn

Close!
hahahaha, struth!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 02, 2015, 04:39:18 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 02, 2015, 02:32:20 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 12, 2014, 10:20:22 PM
J.Roughead - will miss 8 weeks with severe sunburn

Close!

Uncanny!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on July 02, 2015, 05:39:36 PM
Some nice predictions, although poor Roughy :-X.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 03, 2015, 12:03:18 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 02, 2015, 04:39:18 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 02, 2015, 02:32:20 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 12, 2014, 10:20:22 PM
J.Roughead - will miss 8 weeks with severe sunburn

Close!

Uncanny!

wasnt there one in there about sloane and his cheek?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 03, 2015, 08:33:06 AM
Hey guys following the tragic events with Phil Walsh I think it is likely that the Crows/Cats players won't play this weekend

Propose that the average of these players are used for this week
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on July 03, 2015, 08:57:53 AM
Either that OSS or use the scores of Adelaide and Geelong players from next weeks games.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 03, 2015, 09:18:46 AM
Think I'll take the averages of the players this week, but there's still a chance the players might play I guess.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 03, 2015, 09:21:06 AM
Let's just approach the round like business as usual, but if the game does in fact not get played, averages are the sensible option
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 03, 2015, 09:26:11 AM
Or, seeing as this is an SC based game, we can just wait and see what SC does regarding this and just copy their decision
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 03, 2015, 09:34:34 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 03, 2015, 09:26:11 AM
Or, seeing as this is an SC based game, we can just wait and see what SC does regarding this and just copy their decision

I'm not confident a decision will be made before lock-out, but yes, if they announce something before that, go for what SC is doing.

Should clarify - you wouldn't be able to pick a player like Sloane (sorry Dublin), would only be players who were actually named to play to begin with
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on July 03, 2015, 09:45:00 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 03, 2015, 09:21:06 AM
Let's just approach the round like business as usual, but if the game does in fact not get played, averages are the sensible option
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 06, 2015, 10:59:10 AM
Thought about starting a new thread for this, but was just thinking about all the trades we did over the pre-season and reflecting on what worked and what didn't

We traded out Blicavs and Arma, and at the time based off their history to date the trades where fair, but damn losing those two has cost us a bucket load of points

Imagine we had Blicavs instead of Pyke in the ruck, and Arma in the mids instead of guys like Grundy, Adcock etc taking up a U spot?

Trading out Treloar I can take, because we got great forward and back cover in return, although the fall of Duffield was something we never saw coming. Hopefully his 93 on the weekend might be a turning point?

Tom Nicholls would have been handy too without Blitz, so we definitely lost out big there from a team performance perspective

It's not all doom and gloom though. Getting in guys like Montagna, Heater, Duncan, JJK and other have seen us take big steps forward, and I reckon if we can get a good run with injuries next year as well as be active in the trade period again New York can be a genuine Top 4 club next year

What about you guys?

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 06, 2015, 11:20:23 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 06, 2015, 10:59:10 AM
Thought about starting a new thread for this, but was just thinking about all the trades we did over the pre-season and reflecting on what worked and what didn't

We traded out Blicavs and Arma, and at the time based off their history to date the trades where fair, but damn losing those two has cost us a bucket load of points

Imagine we had Blicavs instead of Pyke in the ruck, and Arma in the mids instead of guys like Grundy, Adcock etc taking up a U spot?

Trading out Treloar I can take, because we got great forward and back cover in return, although the fall of Duffield was something we never saw coming. Hopefully his 93 on the weekend might be a turning point?

Tom Nicholls would have been handy too without Blitz, so we definitely lost out big there from a team performance perspective

It's not all doom and gloom though. Getting in guys like Montagna, Heater, Duncan, JJK and other have seen us take big steps forward, and I reckon if we can get a good run with injuries next year as well as be active in the trade period again New York can be a genuine Top 4 club next year

What about you guys?

thoughts on the Walters bennell deal.

Walters started a little slow 112 99 94 99 74 100 105 for a 98 average in his lat 7. Bennell showed he can score but lots of off field issues.

im happy with Walters personally.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 06, 2015, 11:51:25 AM
I didn't have many major trades really. Except I guess the JJK+Duff for Treloar deal. Annoyed that JJK is tearing it up, but I'd do the trade again, Treloar has been what I've expected him to be.

My last two trades were crucial however (together):

Out: Wells, McDonough, Tutt, N.Wilson, Pick 81
In: Petrie, J.Lonergan and Cross.

Those two trades have got me out of otherwise tight spots this season.

Easily my most successful trade was trading backstabber Clark for Paparone and X.Ellis. Who would have thought Paparone would end up being the best scorer out of the 3? Certainly not me.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on July 06, 2015, 12:22:57 PM
Just did a trade review in the Thunder team thread :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on July 06, 2015, 01:20:16 PM
Ours is in our team thread too. Had a mixed bag,

The Best Trades:

1.  Pick 10(Chris Masten) + Tom Nicholls and Ben Griffiths
    for Mitch Duncan and Pick 24

2. Shaun Hampson
    for Tom Bell

3. Koby Stevens
   for Dylan Buckley


The Worst
1. Tom Bell
    for Seb Ross

2. Leigh Montagna and Langford
    for Jack Trengove and N24 
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on July 06, 2015, 01:29:05 PM
Hey Purps, just wondering if you have any details on the highest scores so far this season and the lowest. Maybe even a bit of standard deviation style stats.

I'd hazard a guess that while we've produced some pretty big scores we'd also be one of the worst teams in terms of consistency.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 06, 2015, 02:02:16 PM
Trade review Part II


All of the following trades are tied in together in some way. You could look at them individually or in reality and how they suit my team needs and structure.



Jarryd Roughead (12 @98), Rory Sloane (9 @100), picks 37 & 43 for Dayne Zorko (13 @90), Travis Boak (13 @99), picks 12 & 21 (D.McKenzie)

Pick 56 and Majak Daw for pick 43

Kristian Jaksch, picks 43 & 79 for pick 16 (J.Lever) & 63

Picks 12, 26 & 33 for Tom Scully (12 @88), picks 19 & 41

Picks 63 & 66 for Matt Maguire

Jack Gunston (13 @92) and Travis Boak for Tom Rockliff (7 @77) and Josh Green

Tom Rockliff and James Sicily for Bryce Gibbs (9 @81) and Aaron Sandilands (13 @ 99)


Okay so, the Maguire and Daw trades are a meh and the Jaksch trade is basically KJ for Jake Lever.

On to the big one.

Roughy, Sloane, Gunston for Zorko, Gibbs, Sandi and Scully

Roughy vs Zorko will probably prove to be spot on even due to Roughy's missed games due to his unfortunate situation that I hope he recovers from ASAP. Boak has performed better than Sloane so this would have been a pretty even trade, if the draft picks weren't involved. Take a look at Tom Scully (who I got for pick 12) and this trade has been a big win at this point.

Gunston and Boak for basically Rocky would have been a disaster if I had have kept Tom.
Green ain't much but he's worth more than Sicily. Little win.
Gibbs is a slight improvement over Rocky, but I'd be much better off if I had have kept Boak and Gunston. If I didn't need a ruck.
Sandi has performed as well as the best midfield premos in these trades, and my team would be screwed without him.

You can look at it as I had a long term loss of Gunston for Sandi, but getting Tom Scully in makes up for that so overall I would say it's all even except for the fact that I have a ruck this year, since Wilbur isn't the only ruck that I need. I'd also have to be playing Ryan Lester at U2 if I kept Gunston, but now I can go with Scully at U2 and The Package/Garlett at F4 so there's nothing lost in terms of best XV output.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 06, 2015, 02:16:48 PM
^^

A response Holz?

Quote from: Memphistopheles on July 06, 2015, 01:29:05 PM
Hey Purps, just wondering if you have any details on the highest scores so far this season and the lowest. Maybe even a bit of standard deviation style stats.

Sure, will be up shortly.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jukes on July 06, 2015, 02:24:00 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 06, 2015, 02:16:48 PM
^^

A response Holz?

Quote from: Memphistopheles on July 06, 2015, 01:29:05 PM
Hey Purps, just wondering if you have any details on the highest scores so far this season and the lowest. Maybe even a bit of standard deviation style stats.

Sure, will be up shortly.

I'm sure I've been one of the more consistent teams, we've scored in the 145-155 bracket pretty much every week for two months, with the exception of the NDT game
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 06, 2015, 02:29:12 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 06, 2015, 02:16:48 PM
A response Holz?


Gibbs has proved to be the spud I said he was. Meow is just lucky that Rocky has been injured, unfortunately for him this isnt a 1 year comp and Rocky will come back and absolutely smash gibbs.

the biggest winner out of all those moves was Dublin, even though Rocky will be back im more than happy with boak + gunston. Gunston has had one shocker which dropped his average to low 90s but he has had an injured hand. besides that he is averaging around 100 so very very happy with that.

Granted Sandi has helped him but unless they win in the next year or two it will be a waste.

Jroo will be laughing in a few years when sandi is gone and Rocky is pumping gibbs.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 06, 2015, 02:31:03 PM
the interesting one will be Dublins trade review which will include trades that were blocked.

I would like to thank ossie for letting me keep Walters instead of getting Bennell.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on July 06, 2015, 02:34:11 PM
yeh speaking of blocked trades

Trade 68
NDT give: N5
Christchurch give: TAdams

Apparently we were giving too much for Adams :'(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jukes on July 06, 2015, 02:39:52 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 06, 2015, 02:31:03 PM
the interesting one will be Dublins trade review which will include trades that were blocked.

I would like to thank ossie for letting me keep Walters instead of getting Bennell.

I'm not even bothering with blocked trades, seeing as there are so many.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 06, 2015, 02:43:00 PM
Quote from: Jukes on July 06, 2015, 02:39:52 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 06, 2015, 02:31:03 PM
the interesting one will be Dublins trade review which will include trades that were blocked.

I would like to thank ossie for letting me keep Walters instead of getting Bennell.

I'm not even bothering with blocked trades, seeing as there are so many.

I reckon i had almost as many blocked trades as you had trades.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jukes on July 06, 2015, 02:44:10 PM
Quote from: Jukes on July 06, 2015, 02:43:02 PM
Since everybody's doing it, here's our trade review - and no, not including the many negged trades.

Trade 23
Dublin trade: Robbie Gray
Moscow trade: Dustin Martin
Result: No Gain
Summary: Pretty much a like-for-like trade here, if you exclude his concussion-affected game (where he was the leading scorer on ground before the sub), Gray averages 116, while Martin averages 109. Seeing as Gray is 3 years older, we'll call this one a draw.


Trade 26
Moscow trade: Jonathon Ceglar
Seoul trade: Hayden Ballantyne + Pick 28
Result: No Gain
Summary: Not the end of the world, but tbh we could use some ruck depth - Nic Nat has been our only playing ruckman all year. Ballantyne has played to a low standard most of the time, and we used 28 to get Armitage so it's alright.


Trade 30
Moscow trade: Callum Sinclair and Pick 35
London trade: Joe Daniher
Result: No Gain
Summary: If we were allowed to go ahead with the original trade, we'd win for sure. But seeing as nobody except us two coaches saw that Sinclair was actually good we were robbed of a pick. Daniher is still the future runner-up GOAT (behind Hogan), as shown by his Pyke/Jesaulenko Medal for BOG in the Peace Cup.


Trade 44
Moscow give: Heath Shaw and Picks 18 and 53
New York give: David Armitage and Luke McDonald
Result: Win
Heater has been great this season, averaging 106 down back. Armitage, meanwhile, has been averaging a lazy 116.4, with only 2 scores under 100. McDonald has been rubbish, 7 games for an average barely over 50, but seeing as he played 23 games in 2014 we're still confident in him being a future gun, although he'll have to fight for backline spots with Vlastuin, Docherty, Seedsman and Pearce.


Trade 96
Toronto Trade: Levi Greenwood, Michael Jamison and Pick 14
Moscow Trade: Ryan Griffen
Result: Win
Summary: Greenwood and Darcy Moore for Griff will certainly be a long-term win, assuming Greenwood ever returns from injury. But, seeing as Griff is averaging 90 this season (well below what he averaged with us), and neither Greenwood, Moore or Jamison have been able to get on the park, it's obviously a short-term loss - but we don't care.


Trade 142
Moscow Give: Zachary Clarke
NDT Give: Clancee Pearce and Ryan Bastinac
Result: Win
Summary: Bastinac (10 games at 71) and Clarke (11 games at 71) are both so dreadful they cancel each other out (although Basti is younger so maybe a slight advantage there). So we're left with Clancee Pearce - who has averaged 87 and played in every game this season, with his average let down by the first few weeks where he wasn't even in the team - remove those, and he averages 95.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on July 06, 2015, 02:44:53 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 06, 2015, 02:02:16 PM
but now I can go with Scully at U2 and The Package/Garlett at F4 so there's nothing lost in terms of best XV output.
Can we please not let this catch on?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 06, 2015, 02:55:27 PM
Hopefully the table is self-explanatory. STDEV means standard deviation, which is pretty much the average amount of points you score away from your average each week, kinda. This is measured in WXV points, so yeah, times by 10 to get the amount of SC points you deviate by. Was surprised to see Beijing had the lowest STDEV.





















TeamHIGHLOWAVERSTDEV
Beijing Thunder 1491221366.97
Berlin Brewers16912714612.36
Buenos Aires Armadillos 133971119.8
Cairo Sands 14810312312.1
Cape Town Cobras 1521221378.54
Christchurch Saints 1551221419.27
Dublin Destroyers 19213316115.64
London Royals 15612313710.44
Mexico City Suns 16612914412.68
Moscow Spetsnaz 15312414210.61
New Delhi Tigers 1428610819.16
New York Revolution 1531181419.3
Pacific Islanders 1481241387.44
PNL Reindeers 1631291489.96
Rio de Janeiro Jaguars 1531211379.88
Seoul Magpies 1461201287.22
Tokyo Samurai 14811913310.67
Toronto Wolves 1531211389.44
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 06, 2015, 02:56:58 PM
Also, there has been 10 occurrences this year that a team has scored 160+, which just goes to show that that is the elite barrier IMO.

R3   Dublin   1919
R2   Dublin   1840
R5   Dublin   1692
R8   Berlin   1685
R8   Mexico City   1660
R7   Dublin   1657
R11   PNL   1633
R7   PNL   1628
R9   Mexico City   1610
R4   Dublin   1600
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on July 06, 2015, 03:00:41 PM
I was going to say I wouldn't be surprised if we had a low std deviation, seems like we're going around that 130-140 mark every week!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 06, 2015, 03:01:45 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 06, 2015, 02:29:12 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 06, 2015, 02:16:48 PM
A response Holz?


Gibbs has proved to be the spud I said he was. Meow is just lucky that Rocky has been injured, unfortunately for him this isnt a 1 year comp and Rocky will come back and absolutely smash gibbs.

the biggest winner out of all those moves was Dublin, even though Rocky will be back im more than happy with boak + gunston. Gunston has had one shocker which dropped his average to low 90s but he has had an injured hand. besides that he is averaging around 100 so very very happy with that.

Granted Sandi has helped him but unless they win in the next year or two it will be a waste.

Jroo will be laughing in a few years when sandi is gone and Rocky is pumping gibbs.

It's not Rocky vs Gibbs.

It's Sloane/Boak/Rocky and Gunston vs Gibbs, Sandi and Scully.

I like how you completely disregard the fact that the short term matters. It's not a one year comp but it's not completely about the future either. We are winning this trade in 2015. I don't care if we don't win the flag this year, if we could cause an upset in the finals on the back of a dominant Sandilands performance and knock Dublin out that would be good enough for me ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 06, 2015, 03:19:33 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on July 06, 2015, 02:44:53 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 06, 2015, 02:02:16 PM
but now I can go with Scully at U2 and The Package/Garlett at F4 so there's nothing lost in terms of best XV output.
Can we please not let this catch on?

Haha it's so bad that it's good.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 06, 2015, 03:27:14 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 06, 2015, 03:01:45 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 06, 2015, 02:29:12 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 06, 2015, 02:16:48 PM
A response Holz?


Gibbs has proved to be the spud I said he was. Meow is just lucky that Rocky has been injured, unfortunately for him this isnt a 1 year comp and Rocky will come back and absolutely smash gibbs.

the biggest winner out of all those moves was Dublin, even though Rocky will be back im more than happy with boak + gunston. Gunston has had one shocker which dropped his average to low 90s but he has had an injured hand. besides that he is averaging around 100 so very very happy with that.

Granted Sandi has helped him but unless they win in the next year or two it will be a waste.

Jroo will be laughing in a few years when sandi is gone and Rocky is pumping gibbs.

It's not Rocky vs Gibbs.

It's Sloane/Boak/Rocky and Gunston vs Gibbs, Sandi and Scully.

I like how you completely disregard the fact that the short term matters. It's not a one year comp but it's not completely about the future either. We are winning this trade in 2015. I don't care if we don't win the flag this year, if we could cause an upset in the finals on the back of a dominant Sandilands performance and knock Dublin out that would be good enough for me ;)

Is there anyway you could have got Sandi without having to massively downgrade rocky to gibbs though. Thats where the trade is lost in my books. Or got another ruck for that matter because gibbs has been pretty shocking.

the season isnt over yet, for the top teams its the back half of the season that matters. If rocky comes back and goes 110+ and gibbs keeps being gibbs than im not sure even sandi this year makes up for that.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on July 06, 2015, 04:53:05 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 06, 2015, 02:56:58 PM
Also, there has been 10 occurrences this year that a team has scored 160+, which just goes to show that that is the elite barrier IMO.

R3   Dublin   1919
R2   Dublin   1840
R5   Dublin   1692
R8   Berlin   1685
R8   Mexico City   1660
R7   Dublin   1657
R11   PNL   1633
R7   PNL   1628
R9   Mexico City   1610
R4   Dublin   1600

most recent team to do it  8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 06, 2015, 04:59:48 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on July 06, 2015, 04:53:05 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 06, 2015, 02:56:58 PM
Also, there has been 10 occurrences this year that a team has scored 160+, which just goes to show that that is the elite barrier IMO.

R3   Dublin   1919
R2   Dublin   1840
R5   Dublin   1692
R8   Berlin   1685
R8   Mexico City   1660
R7   Dublin   1657
R11   PNL   1633
R7   PNL   1628
R9   Mexico City   1610
R4   Dublin   1600

most recent team to do it  8)

a came close to number 6 this week.

hopefully i get it this week instead.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on July 06, 2015, 10:02:39 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 06, 2015, 02:55:27 PM
Hopefully the table is self-explanatory. STDEV means standard deviation, which is pretty much the average amount of points you score away from your average each week, kinda. This is measured in WXV points, so yeah, times by 10 to get the amount of SC points you deviate by. Was surprised to see Beijing had the lowest STDEV.





















TeamHIGHLOWAVERSTDEV
Beijing Thunder 1491221366.97
Berlin Brewers16912714612.36
Buenos Aires Armadillos 133971119.8
Cairo Sands 14810312312.1
Cape Town Cobras 1521221378.54
Christchurch Saints 1551221419.27
Dublin Destroyers 19213316115.64
London Royals 15612313710.44
Mexico City Suns 16612914412.68
Moscow Spetsnaz 15312414210.61
New Delhi Tigers 1428610819.16
New York Revolution 1531181419.3
Pacific Islanders 1481241387.44
PNL Reindeers 1631291489.96
Rio de Janeiro Jaguars 1531211379.88
Seoul Magpies 1461201287.22
Tokyo Samurai 14811913310.67
Toronto Wolves 1531211389.44

Awesome work Purple!

Hmm, I'm surprised to see our Standard Deviation so low.

And, also that this week was our highest score of the season.

Hopefully a good sign that we're ready for a finals charge against those 160+ teams.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on July 06, 2015, 11:09:56 PM
Must say Purps you've done an absolutely stellar job filling the enormous shoes left by Oss as admin! You're an absolute star, love all the work you put in mate.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on July 07, 2015, 12:08:22 AM
Quote from: My Chumps on July 06, 2015, 11:09:56 PM
Must say Purps you've done an absolutely stellar job filling the enormous shoes left by Oss as admin! You're an absolute star, love all the work you put in mate.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on July 07, 2015, 07:04:34 AM
Quote from: Levi434 on July 07, 2015, 12:08:22 AM
Quote from: My Chumps on July 06, 2015, 11:09:56 PM
Must say Purps you've done an absolutely stellar job filling the enormous shoes left by Oss as admin! You're an absolute star, love all the work you put in mate.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 07, 2015, 08:59:44 AM
Quote from: DazBurg on July 07, 2015, 07:04:34 AM
Quote from: Levi434 on July 07, 2015, 12:08:22 AM
Quote from: My Chumps on July 06, 2015, 11:09:56 PM
Must say Purps you've done an absolutely stellar job filling the enormous shoes left by Oss as admin! You're an absolute star, love all the work you put in mate.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on July 07, 2015, 09:26:58 AM
Quote from: Nige on July 07, 2015, 08:59:44 AM
Quote from: DazBurg on July 07, 2015, 07:04:34 AM
Quote from: Levi434 on July 07, 2015, 12:08:22 AM
Quote from: My Chumps on July 06, 2015, 11:09:56 PM
Must say Purps you've done an absolutely stellar job filling the enormous shoes left by Oss as admin! You're an absolute star, love all the work you put in mate.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 07, 2015, 09:54:13 AM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on July 07, 2015, 09:26:58 AM
Quote from: Nige on July 07, 2015, 08:59:44 AM
Quote from: DazBurg on July 07, 2015, 07:04:34 AM
Quote from: Levi434 on July 07, 2015, 12:08:22 AM
Quote from: My Chumps on July 06, 2015, 11:09:56 PM
Must say Purps you've done an absolutely stellar job filling the enormous shoes left by Oss as admin! You're an absolute star, love all the work you put in mate.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 07, 2015, 10:01:47 AM
breaking the chain, top stuff though purps.

and somehow your a bigger dublin hater than ossie, which is tough.

good luck this week in the idol

ohh wait....

I don't know why people dislike Dublin :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on July 07, 2015, 10:05:57 AM
Yeh Purps you're doing an amazing job mate
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 07, 2015, 12:19:43 PM
Wow, thanks all! I admit I had my doubts at the start of the year whether I could continue the fantastic work and standard that oz as set, but it's a pleasure and privilege running worlds, and I'm loving it. It also helps that there has been no dramas yet in my reign :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 07, 2015, 12:20:51 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 07, 2015, 10:01:47 AM
breaking the chain, top stuff though purps.

and somehow your a bigger dublin hater than ossie, which is tough.

good luck this week in the idol

ohh wait....

I don't know why people dislike Dublin :P

Hating Dublin is the easiest part of the job, comes very naturally  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on July 07, 2015, 12:27:57 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 07, 2015, 10:01:47 AM
breaking the chain, top stuff though purps.

and somehow your a bigger dublin hater than ossie, which is tough.

good luck this week in the idol

ohh wait....

I don't know why people dislike Dublin :P

It's not so much that we hate Dublin, more that we're either jealous of how good your team is or (in my case) like to root for the underdog - which is everyone against Dublin every week.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 07, 2015, 12:41:09 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 07, 2015, 12:20:51 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 07, 2015, 10:01:47 AM
breaking the chain, top stuff though purps.

and somehow your a bigger dublin hater than ossie, which is tough.

good luck this week in the idol

ohh wait....

I don't know why people dislike Dublin :P

Hating Dublin is the easiest part of the job, comes very naturally  :P

I understand it don't worry, its winning that comes naturally to Dublin though

maybe not so much in Berlin :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 07, 2015, 12:53:04 PM
You're a huge reason why this comp is so good and we are all committed Purps

Love your work mate, and really enjoy and appreciate it :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on July 07, 2015, 01:03:39 PM
Agree with the others, you do a fantastic job Purps :)

Love the extra work you do, especially with stuff like the game previews. Fantastic stuff :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on July 07, 2015, 01:04:11 PM
Agree with the others, you do a fantastic job Purps :)

Love the extra work you do, especially with stuff like the game previews. Fantastic stuff :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 07, 2015, 01:11:37 PM
Purps, I love you.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 07, 2015, 01:15:28 PM

You're like a brother to me Purps
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 07, 2015, 01:24:02 PM
Aww guys  :-[

Quote from: ossie85 on July 07, 2015, 01:15:28 PM
You're like a brother to me Purps

Lol. Also, ossies contributions are still awesome!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on July 07, 2015, 03:54:57 PM
Top 10 In Form Forwards (5 Rd Avg)

1. DMartin 115
2. Riewoldt 111
3. Westhoff 110
4. Deledio 109
5. Bennell 107
6. Gawn 107
7. Zorko 104
8. Wingard 103
9. KStevens 102  8)
10. Crisp 101
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on July 07, 2015, 04:49:51 PM
I echo the sentiments Purps you are doing an amazing job and as others have said it's a reason you have such committed coaches in this comp. And yes I love Ossie's continuing contributions! Top stuff guys :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on July 07, 2015, 05:09:08 PM
Watson out for the year... Dublin are crumbling


Oh and Ben Griffiths out for 2-3 weeks for us in anyone cares :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 07, 2015, 05:15:48 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 07, 2015, 05:09:08 PM
Oh and Ben Griffiths out for 2-3 weeks for us in anyone cares :(
As a Richmond fan and a coach of a team is this comp that is struggling with fielding a side because of injuries and whatnot, I care and know how you feel.  :P :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 08, 2015, 03:04:47 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 07, 2015, 05:09:08 PM
Watson out for the year... Dublin are crumbling


Oh and Ben Griffiths out for 2-3 weeks for us in anyone cares :(

Far out, at least it explains his form and helps the cap. Not great that the draw is stacked. Ill be fine when Sloane is back

Discussion point I dont like the stacked draw for this reason. All my hard ganes in a row while im down is a little unfair. I reckon they should be spread around the season. For example if the hard ganes where at the start Mexico would be scrwwed. If they were random both Mexico and I would be eqyally affected.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 08, 2015, 06:05:43 AM
Quote from: Holz on July 08, 2015, 03:04:47 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 07, 2015, 05:09:08 PM
Watson out for the year... Dublin are crumbling


Oh and Ben Griffiths out for 2-3 weeks for us in anyone cares :(

Far out, at least it explains his form and helps the cap. Not great that the draw is stacked. Ill be fine when Sloane is back

Discussion point I dont like the stacked draw for this reason. All my hard ganes in a row while im down is a little unfair. I reckon they should be spread around the season. For example if the hard ganes where at the start Mexico would be scrwwed. If they were random both Mexico and I would be eqyally affected.


I think the way the fixture has been set out has been hugely successful and has added some real tension leading to the finals

Injury impacts are just luck no matter how you shape it
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 08, 2015, 09:41:52 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 08, 2015, 06:05:43 AM
Quote from: Holz on July 08, 2015, 03:04:47 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 07, 2015, 05:09:08 PM
Watson out for the year... Dublin are crumbling


Oh and Ben Griffiths out for 2-3 weeks for us in anyone cares :(

Far out, at least it explains his form and helps the cap. Not great that the draw is stacked. Ill be fine when Sloane is back

Discussion point I dont like the stacked draw for this reason. All my hard ganes in a row while im down is a little unfair. I reckon they should be spread around the season. For example if the hard ganes where at the start Mexico would be scrwwed. If they were random both Mexico and I would be eqyally affected.


I think the way the fixture has been set out has been hugely successful and has added some real tension leading to the finals

Injury impacts are just luck no matter how you shape it

it is luck but all teams have some down points in the season. So a big block of easy games or hard games just compounds that. Mexico was sheltered because they had their injury crisis during the easy streak. Where i have it during the hard streak.

I just thought if it was spread throughout the season its more fair. As it stands im at my weakest against all the top teams. Will probably lose the minor premiership because of it.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 08, 2015, 09:45:39 AM

Mexico City still lost a bunch of games against 'lesser' teams anyway. They may have preferred their injuries against the 'stronger' teams who they might lose to anyway.

The finals are always at the end of the year, and unfortunately some teams will be hit by injuries then also
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 08, 2015, 09:47:56 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 08, 2015, 09:45:39 AM

Mexico City still lost a bunch of games against 'lesser' teams anyway. They may have preferred their injuries against the 'stronger' teams who they might lose to anyway.

The finals are always at the end of the year, and unfortunately some teams will be hit by injuries then also

agreed cant do anything about finals and if your injured during that period than thats unlucky but the way it is its basically finals now.

Im not sure about mexico wanting to be against the top teams injured, they sneaked in alot of wins that they shouldnt have, probably would have gone 1-4 with their early team.

I just got to push through anyway.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on July 08, 2015, 11:32:59 AM
Classic Holz, most elite team ever yet he still finds something to whinge and complain about. :p
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on July 08, 2015, 11:34:03 AM
http://www.nmfc.com.au/news/2015-07-08/grima-retires

:(

Was continually checking his recovery updates and had been stuck at 1-2 weeks for a fair while so I feared something was not quite right

A loyal Wolf through and through, and quite a handy scorer down back when he got on the park, ever since making the switch from Dublin at the end of the 2012 season he has been one of my first picked defenders

Great clubman, will be missed
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 08, 2015, 11:46:33 AM
Quote from: elephants on July 08, 2015, 11:32:59 AM
Classic Holz, most elite team ever yet he still finds something to whinge and complain about. :p

LOL yeah holz - you're team is that ridiculously unfair to the rest of us as it is that complaining about the draw is just LOL

We cop a few injuries to us and it destroys our team where as it just means B+ players step in for you
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 08, 2015, 11:54:48 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 08, 2015, 11:46:33 AM
Quote from: elephants on July 08, 2015, 11:32:59 AM
Classic Holz, most elite team ever yet he still finds something to whinge and complain about. :p

LOL yeah holz - you're team is that ridiculously unfair to the rest of us as it is that complaining about the draw is just LOL

We cop a few injuries to us and it destroys our team where as it just means B+ players step in for you

actually i might only have 16-17 playing this week, a few more injuries and i might not be able to fill a team. Remember I had to drop all my depth because of the cap.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on July 08, 2015, 12:12:13 PM
We're blaming the draw as well. No way we would be bottom 8 if it wasn't far this bias fixture!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 08, 2015, 12:58:29 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 08, 2015, 12:12:13 PM
We're blaming the draw as well. No way we would be bottom 8 if it wasn't far this bias fixture!

LOL Rico!

We're just blaming Libba and Duncan for getting LTI's and Bennell for being a d!ck
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 08, 2015, 01:17:54 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 08, 2015, 12:58:29 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 08, 2015, 12:12:13 PM
We're blaming the draw as well. No way we would be bottom 8 if it wasn't far this bias fixture!

LOL Rico!

We're just blaming Libba and Duncan for getting LTI's and Bennell for being a d!ck

and the comp for stopping you getting Walters :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jukes on July 08, 2015, 01:20:51 PM
Nobody else has been missing the next big thing in the midfield in Jaeger (although Heppell could stake a claim for that) all year, he'd be averaging 115 if no injury :/

At least Greenwood picked up 42 possessions in his 2 VFL games, he'll be back soon.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 08, 2015, 01:24:05 PM
Quote from: Jukes on July 08, 2015, 01:20:51 PM
Nobody else has been missing the next big thing in the midfield in Jaeger (although Heppell could stake a claim for that) all year, he'd be averaging 115 if no injury :/

At least Greenwood picked up 42 possessions in his 2 VFL games, he'll be back soon.

that is huge the bomb would be elite if he was fully fit. I worry that he never will be though. I knew he was a risk when i traded him but i put it a low risk, its basically worst case scenario for him at the moment.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 08, 2015, 01:25:18 PM
Not having an otherwise 110 averaging Crouch is a little annoying  :-X
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 08, 2015, 01:26:29 PM
Um I think you're all forgetting that I've been missing Zac Dawson all season.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on July 08, 2015, 01:29:04 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 08, 2015, 01:26:29 PM
Um I think you're all forgetting that I've been missing Zac Dawson all season.
winner
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 08, 2015, 01:29:19 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 08, 2015, 01:25:18 PM
Not having an otherwise 110 averaging Crouch is a little annoying  :-X

be quiet you have Steven and Fyfe.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 08, 2015, 01:41:44 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 08, 2015, 01:26:29 PM
Um I think you're all forgetting that I've been missing Zac Dawson all season.

I feel a bit silly now  :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 09, 2015, 10:58:57 AM
I think Cairo would be fine if Ryan Crowley didn't get himself suspended indefinitely.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on July 13, 2015, 02:26:47 PM
So Zac Williams will definitely be starting in defence for us this week... 103, 89, 93 in last 3 :o
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 13, 2015, 02:27:54 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 13, 2015, 02:26:47 PM
So Zac Williams will definitely be starting in defence for us this week... 103, 89, 93 in last 3 :o

next three.... 72, 65, 42
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 13, 2015, 04:44:07 PM
With Vandenberg in such good form, Christchurch have decided to give Gibbs the rest of the season off.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 13, 2015, 04:50:43 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 13, 2015, 04:44:07 PM
With Vandenberg in such good form, Christchurch have decided to give Gibbs the rest of the season off.

just a fun fact.

Gibbs 2 100+ games top of 113 all season

Rocky last 3 games 100+ for 116 average
Last 5 games 90+  for 107 average

Meow you may have just given a premiership to Mexico. not sure if that was your plan or not.

Rocky is catching fire they would be in trouble with gibbs (wouldn't make their team anyway)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on July 13, 2015, 05:49:42 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 13, 2015, 04:50:43 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 13, 2015, 04:44:07 PM
With Vandenberg in such good form, Christchurch have decided to give Gibbs the rest of the season off.

just a fun fact.

Gibbs 2 100+ games top of 113 all season

Rocky last 3 games 100+ for 116 average
Last 5 games 90+  for 107 average

Meow you may have just given a premiership to Mexico. not sure if that was your plan or not.

Rocky is catching fire they would be in trouble with gibbs (wouldn't make their team anyway)

Stop trying to claim the underdog tag Holz - Dublin is still the clear favourites to win.

...




At least until you lose to us this weekend :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 13, 2015, 05:56:37 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 13, 2015, 02:26:47 PM
So Zac Williams will definitely be starting in defence for us this week... 103, 89, 93 in last 3 :o

Thanks for this Rico. I have him in i5's and he hasn't got a run for me yet, but I reckon I will make him my EMG this week, and am tempted to even give him a run on the park over Christensen
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on July 13, 2015, 06:05:31 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 13, 2015, 05:56:37 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 13, 2015, 02:26:47 PM
So Zac Williams will definitely be starting in defence for us this week... 103, 89, 93 in last 3 :o

Thanks for this Rico. I have him in i5's and he hasn't got a run for me yet, but I reckon I will make him my EMG this week, and am tempted to even give him a run on the park over Christensen
Happy to help mate
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 13, 2015, 06:26:05 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on July 13, 2015, 05:49:42 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 13, 2015, 04:50:43 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 13, 2015, 04:44:07 PM
With Vandenberg in such good form, Christchurch have decided to give Gibbs the rest of the season off.

just a fun fact.

Gibbs 2 100+ games top of 113 all season

Rocky last 3 games 100+ for 116 average
Last 5 games 90+  for 107 average

Meow you may have just given a premiership to Mexico. not sure if that was your plan or not.

Rocky is catching fire they would be in trouble with gibbs (wouldn't make their team anyway)

Stop trying to claim the underdog tag Holz - Dublin is still the clear favourites to win.

...




At least until you lose to us this weekend :P

I reckon Mexico slight favourites they are injury free and have rocky and sidey turning it on, just got bartel back.

I desperately need Sloane and Roughy back.

Watson Sloane Roughy Selwood gone this week.

I might lose. My depth isnt great. Im probably playing Bruce and sxhoenemakers
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 13, 2015, 07:03:40 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 13, 2015, 04:50:43 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 13, 2015, 04:44:07 PM
With Vandenberg in such good form, Christchurch have decided to give Gibbs the rest of the season off.

just a fun fact.

Gibbs 2 100+ games top of 113 all season

Rocky last 3 games 100+ for 116 average
Last 5 games 90+  for 107 average

Meow you may have just given a premiership to Mexico. not sure if that was your plan or not.

Rocky is catching fire they would be in trouble with gibbs (wouldn't make their team anyway)

So? Sandi has a 5 game average of 120.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 21, 2015, 10:23:48 AM
Just realised if I had beaten Christchurch 2 weeks ago I'd be in the 4... And considering they just scored 127....

FARRRKKKK!!!!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 21, 2015, 10:48:58 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 21, 2015, 10:23:48 AM
Just realised if I had beaten Christchurch 2 weeks ago I'd be in the 4... And considering they just scored 127....

FARRRKKKK!!!!

Finishing 4th means you play Dublin at home which is an obvious loss. So its pretty much the same as long as you win the elimination final.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on July 22, 2015, 11:06:15 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 07, 2015, 03:54:57 PM
Top 10 In Form Forwards (5 Rd Avg)

1. DMartin 115
2. Riewoldt 111
3. Westhoff 110
4. Deledio 109
5. Bennell 107
6. Gawn 107
7. Zorko 104
8. Wingard 103
9. KStevens 102  8)
10. Crisp 101
flowering jinxed him. Subbed, late out, and now out for over a month.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 29, 2015, 09:08:57 AM
Just saw no fyfe this week....

Oh, GAWD!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 29, 2015, 09:20:52 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 29, 2015, 09:08:57 AM
Just saw no fyfe this week....

Oh, GAWD!

Fyfe v Ablett battle a fizzle
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on July 29, 2015, 04:54:23 PM
So he'll be at 100% for next week Toronto vs Berlin?   :-\
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 29, 2015, 05:10:51 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on July 29, 2015, 04:54:23 PM
So he'll be at 100% for next week Toronto vs Berlin?   :-\

you said dont write of Pendles.

Its a big stage. Fyfe and Pendles can battle it out for the 2nd best SCer in the land behind Goldy.

Much like everyone else is battling it out for the 2nd best WXV team in the land behind Dublin.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 29, 2015, 05:47:07 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 29, 2015, 05:10:51 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on July 29, 2015, 04:54:23 PM
So he'll be at 100% for next week Toronto vs Berlin?   :-\

you said dont write of Pendles.

Its a big stage. Fyfe and Pendles can battle it out for the 2nd best SCer in the land behind Goldy.

Much like everyone else is battling it out for the 2nd best WXV team in the land behind Dublin.

You're arrogance has been in full effect around here as of late  :-X

We all know that you have the best team by a country mile and Goldy is a beast, which tbh makes things boring because we already know you're going to win every year.

I think this competition would be much more interesting if Dublin didn't exist :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 29, 2015, 05:50:17 PM
#evictdublin
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 29, 2015, 05:54:09 PM
The year prior doesn't matter come finals time when Dublin loses in straight sets  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 29, 2015, 05:59:23 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 29, 2015, 05:47:07 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 29, 2015, 05:10:51 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on July 29, 2015, 04:54:23 PM
So he'll be at 100% for next week Toronto vs Berlin?   :-\

you said dont write of Pendles.

Its a big stage. Fyfe and Pendles can battle it out for the 2nd best SCer in the land behind Goldy.

Much like everyone else is battling it out for the 2nd best WXV team in the land behind Dublin.

You're arrogance has been in full effect around here as of late  :-X

We all know that you have the best team by a country mile and Goldy is a beast, which tbh makes things boring because we already know you're going to win every year.

I think this competition would be much more interesting if Dublin didn't exist :P

Want everyone have a great time when I actually lose to Mexico who nobody seems to have an issue with for some reason. After i have been saying Mexico have just as strong a team all season long.

There is a very good chance this is the last year of the Dublin Destroyers existence. So Mexico can win the next 2-3
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 29, 2015, 06:05:25 PM
Mexico don't talk themselves up like it's a sport
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 29, 2015, 06:08:57 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 29, 2015, 05:47:07 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 29, 2015, 05:10:51 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on July 29, 2015, 04:54:23 PM
So he'll be at 100% for next week Toronto vs Berlin?   :-\

you said dont write of Pendles.

Its a big stage. Fyfe and Pendles can battle it out for the 2nd best SCer in the land behind Goldy.

Much like everyone else is battling it out for the 2nd best WXV team in the land behind Dublin.

You're arrogance has been in full effect around here as of late  :-X

We all know that you have the best team by a country mile and Goldy is a beast, which tbh makes things boring because we already know you're going to win every year.

I think this competition would be much more interesting if Dublin didn't exist :P

Dublin win every year? Thompson, Mundy, Murphy, Watson, NDS and no youth coming through. Holz will claim another wooden spoon soon unless he can use his trade wizardry and somehow turn a spud like Brodie Martin into a top 6 pick again.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 29, 2015, 06:13:57 PM
Obviously "every year" was an exaggeration, but the short term future is really only Dublin and Mexico

And yes, Mexico don't pump themselves up every 2 minutes holz :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on July 29, 2015, 06:36:24 PM
lol he does it on purpose. It'd be boring if he didn't
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 29, 2015, 07:06:11 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 29, 2015, 06:13:57 PM
Obviously "every year" was an exaggeration, but the short term future is really only Dublin and Mexico

And yes, Mexico don't pump themselves up every 2 minutes holz :P

PNL could legitimately win this year
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 29, 2015, 07:08:08 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 29, 2015, 07:06:11 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 29, 2015, 06:13:57 PM
Obviously "every year" was an exaggeration, but the short term future is really only Dublin and Mexico

And yes, Mexico don't pump themselves up every 2 minutes holz :P

Seoul could legitimately win this year

fixed lol
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on July 29, 2015, 07:09:25 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 29, 2015, 06:36:24 PM
lol he does it on purpose. It'd be boring if he didn't
'

I'm pretty bored of it
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 29, 2015, 07:13:40 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 29, 2015, 07:06:11 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 29, 2015, 06:13:57 PM
Obviously "every year" was an exaggeration, but the short term future is really only Dublin and Mexico

And yes, Mexico don't pump themselves up every 2 minutes holz :P

PNL could legitimately win this year

I've kept up with PNL and Mexico City ALL year in regards to points... where is the love for Berlin?!  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on July 29, 2015, 07:56:11 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 29, 2015, 07:13:40 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 29, 2015, 07:06:11 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 29, 2015, 06:13:57 PM
Obviously "every year" was an exaggeration, but the short term future is really only Dublin and Mexico

And yes, Mexico don't pump themselves up every 2 minutes holz :P
PNL could legitimately win this year
I've kept up with PNL and Mexico City ALL year in regards to points... where is the love for Berlin?!  :P
Except we actually win games ;D.

Given all it takes is for Dublin to have one bad week in Finals and could be gone. We did beat them last year and London always beats them, so there is hope yet!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 29, 2015, 08:16:29 PM
I love how we're getting better and have scored 150+ in 3 of our last 4 away games yet we ain't even in the conversation.  Very possible for us to finish 2nd, get some HGA action and pump out 160's. Just need Bevo to play Wilbur and we're set!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 29, 2015, 08:30:38 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 29, 2015, 07:13:40 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 29, 2015, 07:06:11 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 29, 2015, 06:13:57 PM
Obviously "every year" was an exaggeration, but the short term future is really only Dublin and Mexico

And yes, Mexico don't pump themselves up every 2 minutes holz :P

PNL could legitimately win this year

I've kept up with PNL and Mexico City ALL year in regards to points... where is the love for Berlin?!  :P

you'll need to win 4 games sorry bro!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 29, 2015, 08:32:17 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on July 29, 2015, 07:09:25 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 29, 2015, 06:36:24 PM
lol he does it on purpose. It'd be boring if he didn't
'

I'm pretty bored of it
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 29, 2015, 08:42:10 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 29, 2015, 06:08:57 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 29, 2015, 05:47:07 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 29, 2015, 05:10:51 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on July 29, 2015, 04:54:23 PM
So he'll be at 100% for next week Toronto vs Berlin?   :-\

you said dont write of Pendles.

Its a big stage. Fyfe and Pendles can battle it out for the 2nd best SCer in the land behind Goldy.

Much like everyone else is battling it out for the 2nd best WXV team in the land behind Dublin.

You're arrogance has been in full effect around here as of late  :-X

We all know that you have the best team by a country mile and Goldy is a beast, which tbh makes things boring because we already know you're going to win every year.

I think this competition would be much more interesting if Dublin didn't exist :P

Dublin win every year? Thompson, Mundy, Murphy, Watson, NDS and no youth coming through. Holz will claim another wooden spoon soon unless he can use his trade wizardry and somehow turn a spud like Brodie Martin into a top 6 pick again.

Sloane Goldy scharenberg tmac Martin gubston Walters etc.. Are about to retire are they?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on July 29, 2015, 09:05:45 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 29, 2015, 05:59:23 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 29, 2015, 05:47:07 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 29, 2015, 05:10:51 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on July 29, 2015, 04:54:23 PM
So he'll be at 100% for next week Toronto vs Berlin?   :-\

you said dont write of Pendles.

Its a big stage. Fyfe and Pendles can battle it out for the 2nd best SCer in the land behind Goldy.

Much like everyone else is battling it out for the 2nd best WXV team in the land behind Dublin.

You're arrogance has been in full effect around here as of late  :-X

We all know that you have the best team by a country mile and Goldy is a beast, which tbh makes things boring because we already know you're going to win every year.

I think this competition would be much more interesting if Dublin didn't exist :P

Want everyone have a great time when I actually lose to Mexico who nobody seems to have an issue with for some reason. After i have been saying Mexico have just as strong a team all season long.

There is a very good chance this is the last year of the Dublin Destroyers existence. So Mexico can win the next 2-3

wait what?

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 29, 2015, 09:33:08 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on July 29, 2015, 09:05:45 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 29, 2015, 05:59:23 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 29, 2015, 05:47:07 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 29, 2015, 05:10:51 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on July 29, 2015, 04:54:23 PM
So he'll be at 100% for next week Toronto vs Berlin?   :-\

you said dont write of Pendles.

Its a big stage. Fyfe and Pendles can battle it out for the 2nd best SCer in the land behind Goldy.

Much like everyone else is battling it out for the 2nd best WXV team in the land behind Dublin.

You're arrogance has been in full effect around here as of late  :-X

We all know that you have the best team by a country mile and Goldy is a beast, which tbh makes things boring because we already know you're going to win every year.

I think this competition would be much more interesting if Dublin didn't exist :P

Want everyone have a great time when I actually lose to Mexico who nobody seems to have an issue with for some reason. After i have been saying Mexico have just as strong a team all season long.

There is a very good chance this is the last year of the Dublin Destroyers existence. So Mexico can win the next 2-3

wait what?

Just Holz getting ahead of himself and experimenting with ideas  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 29, 2015, 10:33:55 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 29, 2015, 09:33:08 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on July 29, 2015, 09:05:45 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 29, 2015, 05:59:23 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 29, 2015, 05:47:07 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 29, 2015, 05:10:51 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on July 29, 2015, 04:54:23 PM
So he'll be at 100% for next week Toronto vs Berlin?   :-\

you said dont write of Pendles.

Its a big stage. Fyfe and Pendles can battle it out for the 2nd best SCer in the land behind Goldy.

Much like everyone else is battling it out for the 2nd best WXV team in the land behind Dublin.

You're arrogance has been in full effect around here as of late  :-X

We all know that you have the best team by a country mile and Goldy is a beast, which tbh makes things boring because we already know you're going to win every year.

I think this competition would be much more interesting if Dublin didn't exist :P

Want everyone have a great time when I actually lose to Mexico who nobody seems to have an issue with for some reason. After i have been saying Mexico have just as strong a team all season long.

There is a very good chance this is the last year of the Dublin Destroyers existence. So Mexico can win the next 2-3

wait what?

Just Holz getting ahead of himself and experimenting with ideas  :P

All may or may not be revealed
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on July 29, 2015, 10:41:45 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 29, 2015, 10:33:55 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 29, 2015, 09:33:08 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on July 29, 2015, 09:05:45 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 29, 2015, 05:59:23 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 29, 2015, 05:47:07 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 29, 2015, 05:10:51 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on July 29, 2015, 04:54:23 PM
So he'll be at 100% for next week Toronto vs Berlin?   :-\

you said dont write of Pendles.

Its a big stage. Fyfe and Pendles can battle it out for the 2nd best SCer in the land behind Goldy.

Much like everyone else is battling it out for the 2nd best WXV team in the land behind Dublin.

You're arrogance has been in full effect around here as of late  :-X

We all know that you have the best team by a country mile and Goldy is a beast, which tbh makes things boring because we already know you're going to win every year.

I think this competition would be much more interesting if Dublin didn't exist :P

Want everyone have a great time when I actually lose to Mexico who nobody seems to have an issue with for some reason. After i have been saying Mexico have just as strong a team all season long.

There is a very good chance this is the last year of the Dublin Destroyers existence. So Mexico can win the next 2-3

wait what?

Just Holz getting ahead of himself and experimenting with ideas  :P

All may or may not be revealed
is this the merge idea again :P ?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on July 29, 2015, 10:55:42 PM
Probably just gonna change Dublin Destroyers into Dublin Goldy's

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on July 29, 2015, 10:57:24 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on July 29, 2015, 10:55:42 PM
Probably just gonna change Dublin Destroyers into Dublin Goldy's
I heard he was going to trade Goldy to Pacific.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: MajorLazer on July 29, 2015, 11:01:51 PM
Quote from: Jayman on July 29, 2015, 10:57:24 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on July 29, 2015, 10:55:42 PM
Probably just gonna change Dublin Destroyers into Dublin Goldy's
I heard he was going to trade Goldy to Pacific.
I heard you were gonna trade Pacific to Goldy.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 30, 2015, 12:01:42 AM
Quote from: MajorLazer on July 29, 2015, 11:01:51 PM
I heard you were gonna trade Pacific to Goldy.

LOL  ;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 30, 2015, 04:20:52 AM
Quote from: Levi434 on July 29, 2015, 10:55:42 PM
Probably just gonna change Dublin Destroyers into Dublin Goldy's

Goldy's Destroyers

sounds way better
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 30, 2015, 08:44:10 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 30, 2015, 04:20:52 AM
Quote from: Levi434 on July 29, 2015, 10:55:42 PM
Probably just gonna change Dublin Destroyers into Dublin Goldy's

Goldy's Destroyers

sounds way better

that does sound good.


Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 30, 2015, 02:37:50 PM
After all the discussion im going to announce that the Dublin Destroyers will be around in 2016.

As a sign of good faith there will be no pro Dublin talk for a whole week. starting now.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 30, 2015, 02:52:58 PM
who does everything think will be the pacific and Beijing of 2016 and shoot up the ladder?

my money is on Cairo, they actually have a pretty decent list with one of the best mid fields in the comp (when its playing). Guys like brodie smith could bounce back big time.

Armed with a top 5 pick and good coaching staff, could be a smokey finals team next year.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on July 30, 2015, 02:55:02 PM
So I hear Dublin are going to choke for their next 4 matches. Anybody with me with that prediction?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on July 30, 2015, 02:55:57 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 30, 2015, 02:52:58 PM
who does everything think will be the pacific and Beijing of 2016 and shoot up the ladder?

my money is on Cairo, they actually have a pretty decent list with one of the best mid fields in the comp (when its playing). Guys like brodie smith could bounce back big time.

Armed with a top 5 pick and good coaching staff, could be a smokey finals team next year.
New Delhi will play finals in 2016 #truth
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 30, 2015, 03:12:37 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 30, 2015, 02:55:57 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 30, 2015, 02:52:58 PM
who does everything think will be the pacific and Beijing of 2016 and shoot up the ladder?

my money is on Cairo, they actually have a pretty decent list with one of the best mid fields in the comp (when its playing). Guys like brodie smith could bounce back big time.

Armed with a top 5 pick and good coaching staff, could be a smokey finals team next year.
New Delhi will play finals in 2016 #truth

way to talk your team up Ric. Thats requires a pretty big ego :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 30, 2015, 03:19:38 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 29, 2015, 08:42:10 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 29, 2015, 06:08:57 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 29, 2015, 05:47:07 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 29, 2015, 05:10:51 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on July 29, 2015, 04:54:23 PM
So he'll be at 100% for next week Toronto vs Berlin?   :-\

you said dont write of Pendles.

Its a big stage. Fyfe and Pendles can battle it out for the 2nd best SCer in the land behind Goldy.

Much like everyone else is battling it out for the 2nd best WXV team in the land behind Dublin.

You're arrogance has been in full effect around here as of late  :-X

We all know that you have the best team by a country mile and Goldy is a beast, which tbh makes things boring because we already know you're going to win every year.

I think this competition would be much more interesting if Dublin didn't exist :P

Dublin win every year? Thompson, Mundy, Murphy, Watson, NDS and no youth coming through. Holz will claim another wooden spoon soon unless he can use his trade wizardry and somehow turn a spud like Brodie Martin into a top 6 pick again.

Sloane Goldy scharenberg tmac Martin gubston Walters etc.. Are about to retire are they?

This is WXV. Not WX. Dublin has no future.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on July 30, 2015, 03:20:30 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 30, 2015, 03:12:37 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 30, 2015, 02:55:57 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 30, 2015, 02:52:58 PM
who does everything think will be the pacific and Beijing of 2016 and shoot up the ladder?

my money is on Cairo, they actually have a pretty decent list with one of the best mid fields in the comp (when its playing). Guys like brodie smith could bounce back big time.

Armed with a top 5 pick and good coaching staff, could be a smokey finals team next year.
New Delhi will play finals in 2016 #truth

way to talk your team up Ric. Thats requires a pretty big ego :)
haha my ego would rival yours mate... we just have a slightly worse side than yours ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on July 30, 2015, 06:04:24 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 30, 2015, 02:52:58 PM
who does everything think will be the pacific and Beijing of 2016 and shoot up the ladder?

my money is on Cairo, they actually have a pretty decent list with one of the best mid fields in the comp (when its playing). Guys like brodie smith could bounce back big time.

Armed with a top 5 pick and good coaching staff, could be a smokey finals team next year.
Gotta be Rio doesn't it?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: MajorLazer on July 30, 2015, 06:16:06 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on July 30, 2015, 06:04:24 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 30, 2015, 02:52:58 PM
who does everything think will be the pacific and Beijing of 2016 and shoot up the ladder?

my money is on Cairo, they actually have a pretty decent list with one of the best mid fields in the comp (when its playing). Guys like brodie smith could bounce back big time.

Armed with a top 5 pick and good coaching staff, could be a smokey finals team next year.
Gotta be Rio doesn't it?
Can't you read? It's gotta be us. Duh.  ::)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 30, 2015, 06:35:48 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on July 30, 2015, 06:04:24 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 30, 2015, 02:52:58 PM
who does everything think will be the pacific and Beijing of 2016 and shoot up the ladder?

my money is on Cairo, they actually have a pretty decent list with one of the best mid fields in the comp (when its playing). Guys like brodie smith could bounce back big time.

Armed with a top 5 pick and good coaching staff, could be a smokey finals team next year.
Gotta be Rio doesn't it?

Good call I guess it depends if they try to rebuild or not.  I like Cairo though.

Rumours are they could be getting a young gun defender to compliment their strong midfield and ruckline along with a quality young forward.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 30, 2015, 07:19:36 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 30, 2015, 06:35:48 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on July 30, 2015, 06:04:24 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 30, 2015, 02:52:58 PM
who does everything think will be the pacific and Beijing of 2016 and shoot up the ladder?

my money is on Cairo, they actually have a pretty decent list with one of the best mid fields in the comp (when its playing). Guys like brodie smith could bounce back big time.

Armed with a top 5 pick and good coaching staff, could be a smokey finals team next year.
Gotta be Rio doesn't it?

Good call I guess it depends if they try to rebuild or not. 

They traded pick 10 for Andrew Mackie last year. Something tells me that Rio are yet another team that doesn't rate acquiring players when they're at their cheapest in their initial draft year.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 30, 2015, 07:29:23 PM
I've always quite liked Seoul's list tbh. I almost think they don't need to do much trading as natural improvement of their players might see them spring into the 8!

That, and that I'm going for the premiership hard next year. And I'm going to win it  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 31, 2015, 11:39:38 AM
If Cairo doesn't get flowered by injuries, we'll make the 8 in 2016.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 31, 2015, 12:30:32 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 30, 2015, 07:19:36 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 30, 2015, 06:35:48 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on July 30, 2015, 06:04:24 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 30, 2015, 02:52:58 PM
who does everything think will be the pacific and Beijing of 2016 and shoot up the ladder?

my money is on Cairo, they actually have a pretty decent list with one of the best mid fields in the comp (when its playing). Guys like brodie smith could bounce back big time.

Armed with a top 5 pick and good coaching staff, could be a smokey finals team next year.
Gotta be Rio doesn't it?

Good call I guess it depends if they try to rebuild or not. 

They traded pick 10 for Andrew Mackie last year. Something tells me that Rio are yet another team that doesn't rate acquiring players when they're at their cheapest in their initial draft year.
I disagree that they are at their cheapest in the initial draft. if you get the correct ones it is.

1. Boomz - J Patton
6. FisherSaints - M Buntine
2   Wellington - Jimmy Toumpas
4   Tokyo - Jesse Lonergan
8   London - Troy Menzel
9   London - Joe Daniher
1. Seoul - Thomas Boyd
2. Beijing - James Aish
3. Pacific - Matt Scharenberg
7. Seoul - Josh Kelly
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 31, 2015, 12:56:17 PM
however

4. Dublin - J O'Meara
13. Berlin - B Crouch
5. PNL - C Wingard
9. Cookie Monster - S Docherty
18. Toronto - T Adams
48. c4v3m4n - J Newnes
69. Dublin - L Neale
3   Beijing - Oliver Wines
6   Pacific - Jack Martin
7   New Delhi - Jake Stringer
10   Dublin - Jesse Hogan
11   Beijing - Brodie Grundy
15   New York - Jackson Macrae
8. Pacific - Marcus Bontempelli
13. Cairo - Luke Dunstan
19. Wellington - Patrick Cripps
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 31, 2015, 02:41:26 PM
Brad Crouch at 13 should be on that list too ^^
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on July 31, 2015, 02:51:32 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 31, 2015, 12:30:32 PM
2. Beijing - James Aish

Lol, a bit early to make a call on him ???
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 31, 2015, 03:05:29 PM
Quote from: Toga on July 31, 2015, 02:51:32 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 31, 2015, 12:30:32 PM
2. Beijing - James Aish

Lol, a bit early to make a call on him ???

unless a huge turn around bit of a fail of a pick 2.

Shaz been injured so got that one wrong (for now)

but Billings Shaz KK was my top 3.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 31, 2015, 03:06:22 PM
None of those top 10 picks are bad picks and they'd still fetch a first round pick if they were to be traded out so nothing is lost there. But when the picks pay off, they pay off in a big way. Dublin are where they are now because they got gold in the drafts then traded them for established gold.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on July 31, 2015, 03:09:27 PM
You've pretty much only given him one season to prove himself though (this year has been a bit of a write off through injury and contract saga...

He had a better first season avg than guys like Newnes, Neale, Wingard, and on par with Neale, TAdams etc... So I think the call is a bit premature bud.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on July 31, 2015, 03:10:21 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 31, 2015, 03:06:22 PM
None of those top 10 picks are bad picks and they'd still fetch a first round pick if they were to be traded out so nothing is lost there. But when the picks pay off, they pay off in a big way. Dublin are where they are now because they got gold in the drafts then traded them for established gold.

And this...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 31, 2015, 03:53:49 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 31, 2015, 03:06:22 PM
None of those top 10 picks are bad picks and they'd still fetch a first round pick if they were to be traded out so nothing is lost there. But when the picks pay off, they pay off in a big way. Dublin are where they are now because they got gold in the drafts then traded them for established gold.

Its a part of the reason why I got where i am.

Jaeger Omeara (4) and 32 got me Fyfe which got me Buddy Tmac
Jesse Hogan (10) got my Michael Walters

I disagree with the value of the top picks, i guess it depends what you gave up for them.

I hate to bring this up but pick 5 got me Robbie Gray which got me Dustin Martin.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on July 31, 2015, 08:10:44 PM
<3 Wingard, Billings and Laverde <3
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on July 31, 2015, 08:13:17 PM
Very harsh on Josh Kelly, kid is a gun!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 31, 2015, 08:22:06 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on July 31, 2015, 08:13:17 PM
Very harsh on Josh Kelly, kid is a gun!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 03, 2015, 05:44:52 PM
Have tallied all the JS votes so far...

All I will say, that it is COMPLETELY different to the previous 3 years.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 03, 2015, 07:03:51 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 03, 2015, 05:44:52 PM
Have tallied all the JS votes so far...

All I will say, that it is COMPLETELY different to the previous 3 years.

is there any scaling for positions or is a 120 from a mid worth more than a 115 from a back.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 03, 2015, 07:26:31 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 03, 2015, 07:03:51 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 03, 2015, 05:44:52 PM
Have tallied all the JS votes so far...

All I will say, that it is COMPLETELY different to the previous 3 years.

is there any scaling for positions or is a 120 from a mid worth more than a 115 from a back.

No scaling whatsoever.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on August 06, 2015, 04:56:21 PM
The AFL has given the green light to trading of future draft picks with some restrictions. Shall we be following suit?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 06, 2015, 05:27:16 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 06, 2015, 04:56:21 PM
The AFL has given the green light to trading of future draft picks with some restrictions. Shall we be following suit?

I think so with similar restrictions
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 06, 2015, 05:31:48 PM
I want 2016 picks.

why you ask?

because why not.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 07, 2015, 05:10:07 PM

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,104485.0.html
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 09, 2015, 09:41:59 PM
So... anyone wanna know their final cap?

I don't hear anyone...

You must not want to know I guess  :-\
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 09, 2015, 09:47:46 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 09, 2015, 09:41:59 PM
So... anyone wanna know their final cap?

I don't hear anyone...

You must not want to know I guess  :-\

I do.

it should be quite low given Sloane Watson NDS and a few more with lots of missed games.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 09, 2015, 09:50:34 PM
You know what? I'm gonna tease this out.

I want at least 10 coaches to say they want to know  :P

I can tell you 8 clubs are over the cap  :o
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on August 09, 2015, 10:12:59 PM
Senior side 9th and reserves 13th, not a lot of points there! I'm happy to know :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on August 09, 2015, 10:15:54 PM
I want to know/I think Beijing is over the cap :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on August 09, 2015, 10:28:54 PM
Well we are over again i know that already just a matter of how far over
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 09, 2015, 10:42:57 PM
We're not over the cap for once.  :P

And it means people will have to trade us their players to get under. >:D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on August 09, 2015, 10:59:00 PM
I'd be thrilled if we could get over the cap. Coming from 24,320 last year, and with Gibbs and Minson going AWOL it'd be a huge effort on the back of young guns like Harris Andrews, Aaron Vandenberg and Jake Lever making our cap swell.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on August 09, 2015, 11:10:36 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on August 09, 2015, 10:28:54 PM
Well we are over again i know that already just a matter of how far over
The banes of PNL :P.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 09, 2015, 11:24:05 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 09, 2015, 10:59:00 PM
I'd be thrilled if we could get over the cap. Coming from 24,320 last year, and with Gibbs and Minson going AWOL it'd be a huge effort on the back of young guns like Harris Andrews, Aaron Vandenberg and Jake Lever making our cap swell.

wouldnt be too hard you had numerous players on no games at all taking zero cap.

I think i will increase even though i basically had no debutants except shaz who is nothing in the cap.

Goldy Mundy Thompson Walters Tmac will push my cap up.

Jelly Sloane Watson NDS will drag it back down/.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Boomz on August 10, 2015, 05:58:20 AM
Spill purp  :'(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 10, 2015, 08:51:21 AM
I suspect we are over given the from of Hannebery and Stanton this year, So would like to know
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 10, 2015, 09:53:00 AM
Alright, alright, here are the final caps:

(http://wonderopolis.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Wonder-87-Polar-Ice-Cap-Static-Image2.jpg)

(http://guardianlv.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/polarmelt_630-8163.jpg)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 10, 2015, 09:55:02 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 10, 2015, 09:53:00 AM
(http://guardianlv.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/polarmelt_630-8163.jpg)
only one person over the cap?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on August 10, 2015, 11:34:24 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 10, 2015, 09:55:02 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 10, 2015, 09:53:00 AM
(http://guardianlv.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/polarmelt_630-8163.jpg)
only one person over the cap?

gold :p
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 10, 2015, 11:41:27 AM
You want to see caps?

I'LL SHOW YOU CAPS!!!!!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on August 10, 2015, 12:48:27 PM
By my calculations we ended up on 33,107.

Substantially over the cap.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 10, 2015, 12:55:12 PM
Looks like there are no caps this year.

Great decision purp.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on August 10, 2015, 03:20:31 PM
Well, it was a disappointing year for Cape Town but, there were plenty of positives to take out of it.

We've pretty much completely rebuilt the squad in two season, going from a team with a great starting XV and no depth to a side with fantastic depth but a little lacking in Starting XV guns.

We had five players average 98 or higher (Martin, JPK, Blicavs, Cotchin and Higgins) but, then there was a substantial drop off with the next best player (Hawkins) averaging just under 82.

We had 42 out of 46 players on our list play an AFL game this season which is great news for the future.

None of our players are over 30 and a lot are in the 19-23 range which means there's plenty of improvement to come.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 10, 2015, 03:28:44 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on August 10, 2015, 03:20:31 PM
Well, it was a disappointing year for Cape Town but, there were plenty of positives to take out of it.

We've pretty much completely rebuilt the squad in two season, going from a team with a great starting XV and no depth to a side with fantastic depth but a little lacking in Starting XV guns.

We had five players average 98 or higher (Martin, JPK, Blicavs, Cotchin and Higgins) but, then there was a substantial drop off with the next best player (Hawkins) averaging just under 82.

We had 42 out of 46 players on our list play an AFL game this season which is great news for the future.

None of our players are over 30 and a lot are in the 19-23 range which means there's plenty of improvement to come.

does that mean you want to trade one of your big 5 for a couple 90+ guys or whats the goal?  Having two dominant rucks is big plus
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 10, 2015, 03:31:02 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on August 10, 2015, 03:20:31 PM
We had 42 out of 46 players on our list play an AFL game this season which is great news for the future.

That is pretty crazy
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 10, 2015, 03:38:12 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 10, 2015, 03:28:44 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on August 10, 2015, 03:20:31 PM
Well, it was a disappointing year for Cape Town but, there were plenty of positives to take out of it.

We've pretty much completely rebuilt the squad in two season, going from a team with a great starting XV and no depth to a side with fantastic depth but a little lacking in Starting XV guns.

We had five players average 98 or higher (Martin, JPK, Blicavs, Cotchin and Higgins) but, then there was a substantial drop off with the next best player (Hawkins) averaging just under 82.

We had 42 out of 46 players on our list play an AFL game this season which is great news for the future.

None of our players are over 30 and a lot are in the 19-23 range which means there's plenty of improvement to come.

does that mean you want to trade one of your big 5 for a couple 90+ guys or whats the goal?  Having two dominant rucks is big plus
Hahaha settle Holz.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 10, 2015, 04:57:18 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 10, 2015, 03:38:12 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 10, 2015, 03:28:44 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on August 10, 2015, 03:20:31 PM
Well, it was a disappointing year for Cape Town but, there were plenty of positives to take out of it.

We've pretty much completely rebuilt the squad in two season, going from a team with a great starting XV and no depth to a side with fantastic depth but a little lacking in Starting XV guns.

We had five players average 98 or higher (Martin, JPK, Blicavs, Cotchin and Higgins) but, then there was a substantial drop off with the next best player (Hawkins) averaging just under 82.

We had 42 out of 46 players on our list play an AFL game this season which is great news for the future.

None of our players are over 30 and a lot are in the 19-23 range which means there's plenty of improvement to come.

does that mean you want to trade one of your big 5 for a couple 90+ guys or whats the goal?  Having two dominant rucks is big plus
Hahaha settle Holz.  :P

had my eyes on Cotchin for 3 years, would have given anything for him three years ago. But now its more he is just on my list, with guys like Ablett Pendles Swanny Beamer
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 10, 2015, 05:49:02 PM
Alrighty guys, for real, here are the final caps :P

Beijing Thunder    30271
Berlin Brewers   27303
Buenos Aires Armadillos    24923
Cairo Sands    21339
Cape Town Cobras    31194
Christchurch Saints    30681
Dublin Destroyers    30770
London Royals    30153
Mexico City Suns    30729
Moscow Spetsnaz    29366
New Delhi Tigers    17850
New York Revolution    28853
Pacific Islanders    29049
PNL Reindeers    31478
Rio de Janeiro Jaguars    26652
Seoul Magpies    24081
Tokyo Samurai    30167
Toronto Wolves    26676


@Memph, did you include captain bonuses and such?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 10, 2015, 05:57:44 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 10, 2015, 05:49:02 PM
Alrighty guys, for real, here are the final caps :P

Beijing Thunder    30271
Berlin Brewers   27303
Buenos Aires Armadillos    24923
Cairo Sands    21339
Cape Town Cobras    31194
Christchurch Saints    30681
Dublin Destroyers    30770
London Royals    30153
Mexico City Suns    30729
Moscow Spetsnaz    29366
New Delhi Tigers    17850
New York Revolution    28853
Pacific Islanders    29049
PNL Reindeers    31478
Rio de Janeiro Jaguars    26652
Seoul Magpies    24081
Tokyo Samurai    30167
Toronto Wolves    26676


@Memph, did you include captain bonuses and such?
Damn, we have a fair way to go. Ok, boys like Conca, Trengove, Mullett, ZWilliams and co who have missed large chunks of this year are on the table for those needing to come under the cap.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 10, 2015, 05:58:44 PM
Am i 770 over cap?

If yes thats easy

Mass injury finally helped me
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 10, 2015, 06:04:15 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 10, 2015, 05:58:44 PM
Am i 770 over cap?

If yes thats easy

Mass injury finally helped me

which is a good thing. The cap isn't designed to stop teams getting good, but to stop teams having too many players
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 10, 2015, 06:07:39 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 10, 2015, 03:31:02 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on August 10, 2015, 03:20:31 PM
We had 42 out of 46 players on our list play an AFL game this season which is great news for the future.

That is pretty crazy

like 37 for us
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on August 10, 2015, 06:46:43 PM
Yay... #1 team over the cap :'(.

Lucky already got a plan to get rid of points, so we're all set :P.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on August 10, 2015, 10:02:49 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 10, 2015, 05:49:02 PM
Alrighty guys, for real, here are the final caps :P

Beijing Thunder    30271
Berlin Brewers   27303
Buenos Aires Armadillos    24923
Cairo Sands    21339
Cape Town Cobras    31194
Christchurch Saints    30681
Dublin Destroyers    30770
London Royals    30153
Mexico City Suns    30729
Moscow Spetsnaz    29366
New Delhi Tigers    17850
New York Revolution    28853
Pacific Islanders    29049
PNL Reindeers    31478
Rio de Janeiro Jaguars    26652
Seoul Magpies    24081
Tokyo Samurai    30167
Toronto Wolves    26676


@Memph, did you include captain bonuses and such?

Nope.

Though I think I did count all points scored by our players up until the end of the current round. Thinking about it perhaps the points scored over the bye rounds in some weeks don't count?

How exactly are the caps calculated Purple? Is it only points scored during rounds when the WXV would have played?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 10, 2015, 10:34:03 PM
The REP round doesn't count.

The cap includes EVERY player's score in each of the 17 WXV matches.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 11, 2015, 09:20:02 AM
Weird seeing our cap number so low, we're used to being on the opposite end. :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on August 11, 2015, 01:48:49 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 10, 2015, 05:49:02 PM
Alrighty guys, for real, here are the final caps :P

Beijing Thunder    30271
Berlin Brewers   27303
Buenos Aires Armadillos    24923
Cairo Sands    21339
Cape Town Cobras    31194
Christchurch Saints    30681
Dublin Destroyers    30770
London Royals    30153
Mexico City Suns    30729
Moscow Spetsnaz    29366
New Delhi Tigers    17850
New York Revolution    28853
Pacific Islanders    29049
PNL Reindeers    31478
Rio de Janeiro Jaguars    26652
Seoul Magpies    24081
Tokyo Samurai    30167
Toronto Wolves    26676


@Memph, did you include captain bonuses and such?

Just doing a few calculations.

So in total teams scored 501,535 points this season. 

Divide that by 18 and you get 27,863 points per team

11 of the 18 teams are above this line and 8 are below it.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 11, 2015, 03:54:11 PM

Yup. With retirements and delistings though, I don't think anyone will have a problem getting under the cap
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on August 11, 2015, 03:56:22 PM
Over the cap however...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 11, 2015, 03:56:41 PM
Purps, who scored the most points across the 17 WXV rounds?

Quote from: elephants on August 11, 2015, 03:56:22 PM
Over the cap however...

There's no requirement to go over the cap
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 11, 2015, 04:03:50 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 11, 2015, 03:56:41 PM
Purps, who scored the most points across the 17 WXV rounds?

clearly Goldy right?

averaged the most and played every single game.

Nobody would have came close. Fyfe missed a few and Pendles was alot lower average.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on August 11, 2015, 04:04:11 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 11, 2015, 03:56:41 PM
Purps, who scored the most points across the 17 WXV rounds?

Quote from: elephants on August 11, 2015, 03:56:22 PM
Over the cap however...

There's no requirement to go over the cap

Over the minimum cap so we can trade freely
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 11, 2015, 05:13:00 PM
2211   Todd Goldstein
1986   Scott Pendlebury
1969   Matt Priddis
1953   Dan Hannebery
1947   David Mundy
1927   Patrick Dangerfield
1905   Heath Shaw
1872   Nat Fyfe
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on August 11, 2015, 05:17:07 PM
Pridda #3 <3
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 13, 2015, 12:08:47 PM
Surley if NDT get a priority pick than the dillos should too.

NDT averaged 101.12 points per game while Dillos only 103.12 points per game.

16th placed Cairo averaged 113 and that was with mass mass injuries so they are much better than that.
15th placed Rio averaged 131.88 and thats probably more cairo speed (perhaps better)

so there is about a 17+ point gap between Dillos and the other 16.

I could also argue that NDT had more injuries than Dillos so on paper the Dillos are actually the weakest squad in the comp.

When you look at averages (and im bumping up Cairo as they had probably the unluckiest injury year you can have)

it looks like this (just rough)

150
140
140
140
135
135
135
135
135
130
130
130
130
130
130
130*
103
101

that looks like there are two teams who deserve priority.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on August 13, 2015, 12:48:00 PM
Alright, they can have Dublin's first round pick since you clearly don't deserve it according to your little hypothesis and disregard for the rules in place.

Buenos Aires do get a priority pick anyway. Just not before the first round. Yet.

Buenos Aires did this to themselves now they have to ride it out while Swanny is still being a gun. They can put their hand out for an early priority pick next year.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: MajorLazer on August 13, 2015, 12:52:29 PM
I'll take about 7 priority picks, thanks.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 13, 2015, 01:01:55 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 13, 2015, 12:48:00 PM

Buenos Aires do get a priority pick anyway. Just not before the first round. Yet.

Buenos Aires did this to themselves now they have to ride it out while Swanny is still being a gun. They can put their hand out for an early priority pick next year.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on August 13, 2015, 01:24:46 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 13, 2015, 01:01:55 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 13, 2015, 12:48:00 PM

Buenos Aires do get a priority pick anyway. Just not before the first round. Yet.

Buenos Aires did this to themselves now they have to ride it out while Swanny is still being a gun. They can put their hand out for an early priority pick next year.

I'm not completely sure what the rules are regarding priority picks but, I'm strongly in favour of not handing out a priority pick based on the results from one season.

As Hoz has pointed out teams like Cairo, and to a lesser extent Rio, can have a poor year due to injuries but, still have a pretty decent side. So giving them a priority pick in those circumstances is unfair in my opinion, especially to the teams who have been bad for a while (New Delhi) as it lessens the advantage the priority pick gives them.

I think the priority pick should be based on the amount of games you win over a cumulative two season period.

Yes, we have the case of Buenos Aires this year but, that's something that they need to take in to consideration when going for the rebuild. As meow has pointed out they could have kept Swan this year, had a gun captain option and still have traded him for something decent at the end of the year.

And, even so they get a Top 3 pick this year which is handy in their rebuild.

And, if they are poor again next year which is highly likely - then they will get the priority pick. And, if they are poor again the next year then they will get another (because they've still won less than X games over the last two years).
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 13, 2015, 01:26:30 PM
I think Buenos Aires lost the right to a priority back (before first round) the moment they traded out all of their rucks.

But they'll be fine anyway.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 13, 2015, 01:33:15 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 13, 2015, 01:26:30 PM
I think Buenos Aires lost the right to a priority back (before first round) the moment they traded out all of their rucks.

But they'll be fine anyway.

fair enough if its going on NDT being bottom for a while than that's fine. But based on this year the probably deserve the same treatment, i understand the distinction based on dillos being a top team last year. I personally feel it would be huge in helping the rebuild as its what I did in the euro but will follow what you go for.

Redden didn't play all year anyway.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 13, 2015, 01:35:42 PM
Current rules are less than 4 wins = priority pick after first round

Less than 4 wins 2 years in a row = priority pick before first round

If you can only manage 3 wins for the year your team has issues, and not just because of injury
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 13, 2015, 01:47:19 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 13, 2015, 01:35:42 PM
Current rules are less than 4 wins = priority pick after first round

Less than 4 wins 2 years in a row = priority pick before first round

If you can only manage 3 wins for the year your team has issues, and not just because of injury

fair enough, was just a discussion. Just wanted to bring the numbers to attention.

I am by no means saying Cairo dont deserve a pick but wow they are much much better than the whole Dillos list. I wouldn't trade Beams + Prestia + Hanley for the whole Dillos squad.

I like the cairo list they will be real good in two years.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: MajorLazer on August 13, 2015, 01:49:41 PM
Good thing we're gonna blow the shower out of it this offseason.

FIRE SALE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Erryone PM me.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 13, 2015, 01:51:41 PM
Yes, PM him. Not me, him.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: MajorLazer on August 13, 2015, 01:58:59 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 13, 2015, 01:51:41 PM
Yes, PM him. Not me, him.
Don't listen to him. He's trying to trick you. Nige loves a good PM.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on August 13, 2015, 02:01:54 PM
Nige man you've changed
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 13, 2015, 02:08:23 PM
For the better elephants, for the better.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 20, 2015, 01:59:07 PM
Jason Holmes gets a game!!!!

I must admit the fact his name is only two letters of my name was one of the reasons i picked him. But I have hoarded international players, hoping to find the next Peace Hanley.

I have liked what  I have seen from Holmes soo far and would be great to get another Ruck playing possibly even F/R.

(http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2014/08/21/1227031/456755-874c7644-2804-11e4-943a-734490773104.jpg)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on August 20, 2015, 02:31:20 PM
Heath Shaw was an international player? Huh?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on August 20, 2015, 10:32:00 PM
Hey guys

Just thought I'd post here to let you all know that I'm stepping down as Coach of the Toronto Wolves

It's a decision I've been mulling over for a few weeks, and one that definitely wasn't easy to make, but I feel like the time is right. I've enjoyed the last 4 years immensely, there has been a lot of highs and perhaps a few too many lows, but the WXV game has always been a great love of mine and a real passion, and it's not easy to say goodbye.

Over the years I've dedicated more and more time to building this current Toronto list, and have gone from coaching a DT, SC and WXV side, to just SC and WXV, and for the last couple seasons just the WXV side to focus on. Those 15 boys at Toronto each week, and the 17 other coaches/sides I get the share the journey with has been keeping me interested in fantasy footy for years

Unfortunately I feel as though I'm not the right man to take Toronto forward, I'm not a good enough coach, and with a lot of the talent around these forums desperate for a gig in the elite competition, WXV, it makes sense to let one of these guys take over because I really do want to see Toronto succeed and although I may be a bit bias, I don't think the list is as bad as it may seem

Initially I was going to wait until the conclusion of finals to let you know of my intentions, but after discussions with Purps and a lot of PM's I haven't replied to (sorry about that guys, I hope this explains why I wasn't too intent on committing to any trades), it made sense to announce it now to give the competition plenty of time to find a new coach before trading really gets into the swing of things

Obviously I've got a lot to thank Oz and Purps for, and I owe a lot to them for making this great game what it is. It's been a pleasure coaching alongside each of you guys every week and although this probably brings an end to my time as a regular on FF I'll continue to drop in and check up on WXV I'm sure of it. Best of luck to the teams left in finals, and the rest of you in 2016

Cheers
RB
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on August 20, 2015, 10:37:09 PM
RB  :'(

will miss you mate
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on August 20, 2015, 10:42:46 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on August 20, 2015, 10:37:09 PM
RB  :'(

will miss you mate
Toronto made finals most of the season, so obviously you aren't a bad coach! You will be sorely missed RB :'(.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 20, 2015, 10:45:49 PM
An absolutely outstanding contributor, pioneer coach and incredible coach (none of this nonsense of you being a bad coach  >:(), you will be sorely missed rb!

There from the very beginning, you could always count on rb. Whether it be submitting his team, taking his draft pick promptly or responding to votes. IIRC, not once (if not, a couple of times) did RB fail to do any of these things EVERY single week for the PAST 4 YEARS! But the thing I'll miss most about him, is really his wit and sense of humour about his team and players  :P you added something unique to Worlds, and it will be hard to replace you mate.

All the best in future, and here's hoping we haven't heard the last from you either! It's safe to say you left your mark on the comp.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on August 20, 2015, 11:07:48 PM
I might add, I'll miss the Pendles love RB grew to have for the man ;D.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Boomz on August 21, 2015, 01:52:51 AM
Sad to see you go RB  :( All the old timers are dropping like flies  :-X :'(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 21, 2015, 03:21:47 AM
Thanks for being a huge part of this competition rb
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 21, 2015, 06:55:12 AM
Although our interactions were not frequent, I always enjoy talking trades with you RB :)

Not only just WXV, but the entire forum you have been a huge contributor for years so thanks man, and all the best :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 21, 2015, 09:21:18 AM
Sad to see you go RB.  Do not consider yourself a bad coach as you have Toronto in the finals unlike London who are yet to make it in my 3 years  ;)

All the best in what you decide for the future,
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 21, 2015, 09:33:37 AM
Always a love hate thing with RB,

was a great guy who brought alot to the comp but at the same time stole all my North players ;P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 21, 2015, 09:48:37 AM
RB :( We will miss you around here mate
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 21, 2015, 11:44:12 AM
WXV Vacant Coachin Position (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,104688.0.html)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 21, 2015, 12:49:28 PM
Always enjoyed you being a part of this community rb, it's sad to see another one of the original coaches go, but I guess that's just the way the cookie crumbles. Good luck with your future endeavours and I'm sure whoever replaces you will carry on your fine work.  8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 21, 2015, 01:02:01 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 21, 2015, 12:49:28 PM
Always enjoyed you being a part of this community rb, it's sad to see another one of the original coaches go, but I guess that's just the way the cookie crumbles. Good luck with your future endeavours and I'm sure whoever replaces you will carry on your fine work.  8)

maybe a Cairo boy will step up.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 21, 2015, 01:27:47 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 21, 2015, 01:02:01 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 21, 2015, 12:49:28 PM
Always enjoyed you being a part of this community rb, it's sad to see another one of the original coaches go, but I guess that's just the way the cookie crumbles. Good luck with your future endeavours and I'm sure whoever replaces you will carry on your fine work.  8)

maybe a Cairo boy will step up.
They're not crazy enough to leave the best coaching team in the competition.  :P

Edit: Also mb for the edit of Holz's comment, hit modify instead of quote.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 21, 2015, 01:32:30 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 21, 2015, 01:27:47 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 21, 2015, 01:02:01 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 21, 2015, 12:49:28 PM
Always enjoyed you being a part of this community rb, it's sad to see another one of the original coaches go, but I guess that's just the way the cookie crumbles. Good luck with your future endeavours and I'm sure whoever replaces you will carry on your fine work.  8)

maybe a Cairo boy will step up.
They're not crazy enough to leave the best coaching team in the competition.  :P

Edit: Also mb for the edit of Holz's comment, hit modify instead of quote.  :P

the coaching pannel which just turned a 8 win team into a 2 win team :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on August 21, 2015, 02:35:05 PM
Sad to see ya go RB! You've been a great contributor to the comp. Would have been forever greatful if you traded me Pendles before stepping down ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on August 21, 2015, 02:43:55 PM
All class RB. I don't know what you mean about not being a good coach. Your replacement has big shoes to fill.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on August 21, 2015, 02:46:02 PM
Great stuff rb, always enjoyed having a chat with you

Sorry about all those times I asked about Pendles  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 21, 2015, 02:47:48 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 21, 2015, 01:32:30 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 21, 2015, 01:27:47 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 21, 2015, 01:02:01 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 21, 2015, 12:49:28 PM
Always enjoyed you being a part of this community rb, it's sad to see another one of the original coaches go, but I guess that's just the way the cookie crumbles. Good luck with your future endeavours and I'm sure whoever replaces you will carry on your fine work.  8)

maybe a Cairo boy will step up.
They're not crazy enough to leave the best coaching team in the competition.  :P

Edit: Also mb for the edit of Holz's comment, hit modify instead of quote.  :P

the coaching pannel which just turned a 8 win team into a 2 win team :P
You've been nothing but supportive of us, now you backflip.  :o

Also, injuries did that to us.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 21, 2015, 02:48:29 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 21, 2015, 02:46:02 PM
Great stuff rb, always enjoyed having a chat with you

Sorry about all those times I asked about Pendles :P

probably only bugged him less then 10% of the times i asked him for Pendles. Every week in trade period for 4 years.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 21, 2015, 02:54:37 PM
sorry to see you go RB

Pendles will be for sale if i get the team #rebuild
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on August 21, 2015, 03:00:44 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 21, 2015, 02:47:48 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 21, 2015, 01:32:30 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 21, 2015, 01:27:47 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 21, 2015, 01:02:01 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 21, 2015, 12:49:28 PM
Always enjoyed you being a part of this community rb, it's sad to see another one of the original coaches go, but I guess that's just the way the cookie crumbles. Good luck with your future endeavours and I'm sure whoever replaces you will carry on your fine work.  8)

maybe a Cairo boy will step up.
They're not crazy enough to leave the best coaching team in the competition.  :P

Edit: Also mb for the edit of Holz's comment, hit modify instead of quote.  :P

the coaching pannel which just turned a 8 win team into a 2 win team :P
You've been nothing but supportive of us, now you backflip.  :o


Don't trust him. He's shifty as flower. Sweet talks you when he's trying to trade in one of your guns.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 21, 2015, 03:03:37 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 21, 2015, 02:47:48 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 21, 2015, 01:32:30 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 21, 2015, 01:27:47 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 21, 2015, 01:02:01 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 21, 2015, 12:49:28 PM
Always enjoyed you being a part of this community rb, it's sad to see another one of the original coaches go, but I guess that's just the way the cookie crumbles. Good luck with your future endeavours and I'm sure whoever replaces you will carry on your fine work.  8)

maybe a Cairo boy will step up.
They're not crazy enough to leave the best coaching team in the competition.  :P

Edit: Also mb for the edit of Holz's comment, hit modify instead of quote.  :P

the coaching pannel which just turned a 8 win team into a 2 win team :P
You've been nothing but supportive of us, now you backflip.  :o

Also, injuries did that to us.

taking a friendly pot shot. I love your guys list, remember im tipping you to make the finals next year. I haven't seen any list decimated by injuries as much as Cairo.

take it as a compliment there is a subtle difference in taking shots at teams i like (for example PNL, Cairo) and teams that I dont like e.g. Pretenders (Berlin + Christchurch).

Mexico and I just have a mutual dislike, despite me respecting them.


edit: meow would do anything to take Dublin down, we saw that last year when he purposely gave away his best player to my biggest rival.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 21, 2015, 03:26:50 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 21, 2015, 03:03:37 PM

take it as a compliment there is a subtle difference in taking shots at teams i like (for example PNL, Cairo) and teams that I dont like e.g. Pretenders (Berlin + Christchurch).

Oh come on Holz, it's not like I've dissed Dublin for the past 18 weeks or anything... or rejected any of the dozens of offers you've made me over the past month.

Oh wait...  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 21, 2015, 03:30:34 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 21, 2015, 03:26:50 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 21, 2015, 03:03:37 PM

take it as a compliment there is a subtle difference in taking shots at teams i like (for example PNL, Cairo) and teams that I dont like e.g. Pretenders (Berlin + Christchurch).

Oh come on Holz, it's not like I've dissed Dublin for the past 18 weeks or anything... or rejected any of the dozens of offers you've made me over the past month.

Oh wait...  :P

A comment to Meow's lie.

I think Purple and his Berlin Pretenders can clearly say I haven't sweet talked them despite trying to take one of their very few stars.

Its all good Purp I know your just jealous and to be fair you have good reason to be. Im torn this week, if you win I know its a bye into the grandfinal for Dublin. However you dont deserve to be playing in a prelim over PNL.

So go PNL go

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on August 21, 2015, 03:35:35 PM
Holz is just mad that he was completely wrong about Rocky.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on August 21, 2015, 03:38:08 PM
Insert denial of reality below.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 21, 2015, 03:39:29 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 21, 2015, 03:30:34 PM

I think Purple and his Berlin Pretenders can clearly say I haven't sweet talked them despite trying to take one of their very few stars.

I think I just spat out my cornflakes!

What a god damn lie lol, you're the master of it Holz, just yesterday you were painting me out to be a WXVs heavyweight, when I'm clearly not haha

But still, my win against you in two weeks time will be the sweetest thing of all  8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on August 21, 2015, 03:44:08 PM
Fricken Sandi :P.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on August 21, 2015, 03:53:48 PM
Will miss ya, RB!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 21, 2015, 03:55:45 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 21, 2015, 03:39:29 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 21, 2015, 03:30:34 PM

I think Purple and his Berlin Pretenders can clearly say I haven't sweet talked them despite trying to take one of their very few stars.

I think I just spat out my cornflakes!

What a god damn lie lol, you're the master of it Holz, just yesterday you were painting me out to be a WXVs heavyweight, when I'm clearly not haha

But still, my win against you in two weeks time will be the sweetest thing of all  8)


To be fair everyone is a pretender compared to Dublin PNL Mexico in my eyes. With that trade I mentioned you would have been a WXV heavyweight (because you would be 1/3 Dublin) and Dublin would be weak for 1-2 years. By weak im talking Dublin weak.

the projected team I sent you was very strong, you cant possibly refute that.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 21, 2015, 03:59:45 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 21, 2015, 03:38:08 PM
Insert denial of reality below.
ill let Rocky do the talking in the next 5+ years.

135 115 145 in his last 3 games is a good start.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 21, 2015, 04:24:36 PM
Holz always sucks up to people he trying to do trades with lol
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 21, 2015, 04:42:02 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 21, 2015, 04:24:36 PM
Holz always sucks up to people he trying to do trades with lol

haha not true, im dealing with Purp and Jroo now and its fair to say im fairly harsh against them.

plus I never trade with you anyway KB. Nobody i ever want :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 21, 2015, 05:00:39 PM
interesting how one friendly joke about Cairo (a team I like) and all the Holz/Dublin haters are out in force.

will enjoy seeing Cairo knock up a few wins on the Dublin haters, after Dublin also takes you out.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on August 21, 2015, 05:14:23 PM
holz is a huge PNL supporter
number of deals between our 2 clubs = zero

the love is real lol
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 21, 2015, 05:15:31 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on August 21, 2015, 05:14:23 PM
holz is a huge PNL supporter
number of deals between our 2 clubs = zero

the love is real lol

<3 yah Daz.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on August 21, 2015, 08:05:15 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 21, 2015, 01:27:47 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 21, 2015, 01:02:01 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 21, 2015, 12:49:28 PM
Always enjoyed you being a part of this community rb, it's sad to see another one of the original coaches go, but I guess that's just the way the cookie crumbles. Good luck with your future endeavours and I'm sure whoever replaces you will carry on your fine work.  8)

maybe a Cairo boy will step up.
They're not crazy enough to leave the best coaching team in the competition.  :P
:-X
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on August 21, 2015, 08:35:45 PM
Quote from: GoLions on August 21, 2015, 08:05:15 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 21, 2015, 01:27:47 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 21, 2015, 01:02:01 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 21, 2015, 12:49:28 PM
Always enjoyed you being a part of this community rb, it's sad to see another one of the original coaches go, but I guess that's just the way the cookie crumbles. Good luck with your future endeavours and I'm sure whoever replaces you will carry on your fine work.  8)
maybe a Cairo boy will step up.
They're not crazy enough to leave the best coaching team in the competition.  :P
:-X
FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! So who started crying first? ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 22, 2015, 12:36:58 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on August 21, 2015, 08:35:45 PM
Quote from: GoLions on August 21, 2015, 08:05:15 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 21, 2015, 01:27:47 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 21, 2015, 01:02:01 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 21, 2015, 12:49:28 PM
Always enjoyed you being a part of this community rb, it's sad to see another one of the original coaches go, but I guess that's just the way the cookie crumbles. Good luck with your future endeavours and I'm sure whoever replaces you will carry on your fine work.  8)
maybe a Cairo boy will step up.
They're not crazy enough to leave the best coaching team in the competition.  :P
:-X
FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! So who started crying first? ;)
You should have seen the tears in his eyes when he handed me his letter of resignation.  :o
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 24, 2015, 04:40:30 PM
Just letting everyone know, that since Master Q hasn't been online since February, I have decided to sack him from Beijing. I discussed with Toga, whom wasn't overly fussed either way, but feel like since he has literally done nothing this year, that he doesn't deserve to be a coach.

Should he ever come back, I'm sure he can get the gig back.

If anyone disagrees with me, or feels I should have put it to a vote, let me know and I'll review the decision.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on August 24, 2015, 07:33:00 PM
Think fair enough call as Q will be away for a while, so think fair decision considering Toga continues to run them smoothly in his absence. Hopefully not long before Q returns again though!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on August 24, 2015, 07:56:42 PM
Yeah I haven't heard from Q in a while, I know he was going away but thought he was going to be back by now. For the moment doesn't really make a difference to me, but would be happy to have him back on as a coach if he returns :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 25, 2015, 06:38:14 AM
PNL have any comment on Hodge getting himself suspended for the Prelim and GF?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on August 25, 2015, 07:14:17 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 25, 2015, 06:38:14 AM
PNL have any comment on Hodge getting himself suspended for the Prelim and GF?
it wouldn't be a PNL story without something going wrong

in other words HP blew a fuse at him and told him
"that in no uncertain terms if we lose it's his stupid fault" :P

(well that's the media G rated version)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 25, 2015, 10:47:56 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 25, 2015, 06:38:14 AM
PNL have any comment on Hodge getting himself suspended for the Prelim and GF?
I know how they feel, Chris Masten decided biting would be a good idea and missed a prelim final win and might miss a grand final win in BXVs.  :P >:(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 25, 2015, 10:51:10 AM
Quote from: Nige on August 25, 2015, 10:47:56 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 25, 2015, 06:38:14 AM
PNL have any comment on Hodge getting himself suspended for the Prelim and GF?
I know how they feel, Chris Masten decided biting would be a good idea and missed a prelim final win and might miss a grand final win in BXVs.  :P >:(
cost New Delhi. We woulda been still in otherwise
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 25, 2015, 10:51:55 AM
Quote from: DazBurg on August 25, 2015, 07:14:17 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 25, 2015, 06:38:14 AM
PNL have any comment on Hodge getting himself suspended for the Prelim and GF?
it wouldn't be a PNL story without something going wrong

in other words HP blew a fuse at him and told him
"that in no uncertain terms if we lose it's his stupid fault" :P

(well that's the media G rated version)

well he isnt playing in the GF so its only the one match. Look at the positives Daz.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 25, 2015, 10:52:55 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 25, 2015, 10:51:10 AM
Quote from: Nige on August 25, 2015, 10:47:56 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 25, 2015, 06:38:14 AM
PNL have any comment on Hodge getting himself suspended for the Prelim and GF?
I know how they feel, Chris Masten decided biting would be a good idea and missed a prelim final win and might miss a grand final win in BXVs.  :P >:(
cost New Delhi. We woulda been still in otherwise
I wanna say the same about Dion Prestia's knee giving way and needing surgery.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on August 25, 2015, 11:39:47 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 25, 2015, 10:51:10 AM
Quote from: Nige on August 25, 2015, 10:47:56 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 25, 2015, 06:38:14 AM
PNL have any comment on Hodge getting himself suspended for the Prelim and GF?
I know how they feel, Chris Masten decided biting would be a good idea and missed a prelim final win and might miss a grand final win in BXVs.  :P >:(
cost New Delhi. We woulda been still in otherwise

hahaha too right
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on August 25, 2015, 06:38:19 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on August 25, 2015, 07:14:17 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 25, 2015, 06:38:14 AM
PNL have any comment on Hodge getting himself suspended for the Prelim and GF?
it wouldn't be a PNL story without something going wrong

in other words HP blew a fuse at him and told him
"that in no uncertain terms if we lose it's his stupid fault" :P

(well that's the media G rated version)
We had to make an example of him after he blew a fuse and did that to his own teammate in Chad :(. Going to be sorely missed with our backline, and is the only reason why if we lose, it's because we had to make an example of Hodge.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 25, 2015, 07:36:16 PM
All, righty.

Busy couple of days on the coaching front!

First of all, have got 13/16 coaches that have voted on Daz. I see no point in holding out any longer, as he has a received an extremely positive response (to no surprise), with 100% of votes a firm yes.

So its finally official! Daz is now a co-coach at PNL! Whoo!

Second of all, following the sacking of Q, I'd like to inform everyone that Nails is no longer a co-coach at Buenos Aires (with the blessing of co-coach Vinny). I wasn't originally going to do it, but a certain former Seoul-coach (I think you may have heard about him before), has proposed an idea with my blessing, that he and Vinny have a go at coaching a team together.

"So why haven't you sent the vote out yet Purple?" - I hear you say?

You'll notice I didn't say Nails was sacked... rather I said he was no longer a co-coach. Why? Because there will be no more Buenos Aires!  :o :o :o :o :o :o

And no more Toronto!  :o :o :o :o :o

Yes folks, we will be doing another Sao Paulo/Wellington, with Buenos Aires joining the Toronto players in the wilderness, to eventually be redrafted into two new teams!

This of course means, that Vinny and ossie85 will have to apply for one of the positions (and they'll be applying as co-coaches), so they have to get re-voted in eventually.



So yeah. Nails is a slightly different situation compared to Q, as he has been online every now and then, but Vinny has told me he has done literally nothing, and agrees with me that he should be sacked. If enough people disagree with the decision, send me a PM and we'll see what happens.

Also, need some team name ideas!

I reckon Toronto's reserve team in Manitoba will get a gig at Worlds, but I'm open for suggestions on the second name. I was always disappointed rb didn't choose Manitoba Manners, so that's my suggestion :P

But Buenos Aires didn't have a reserves team name, so I'm up for suggestions!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 25, 2015, 08:01:17 PM
I think using a Canadian team name is good to keep it in that part of the world.

I think keeping the new team in South America is probably a good idea too.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on August 25, 2015, 08:16:03 PM
Dismantled the list then abandoned the rebuild after one season. Outstanding coaching performance Vin :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on August 25, 2015, 08:19:52 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 25, 2015, 08:01:17 PM

I think keeping the new team in South America is probably a good idea too.

South America ain't big enough for another team.  8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on August 25, 2015, 08:20:16 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 25, 2015, 08:16:03 PM
Dismantled the list then abandoned the rebuild after one season. Outstanding coaching performance Vin :P
Hey if you look back at our trades, all of them were pretty good except for trading out all our rucks and not getting enough for Swan (before DPP). It was either that or letting all our pensioners retire, which was our whole team :P

Buenos Aires Dildos trade: Shaun Burgoyne
Sao Paulo Poomas trade: Mitch Wallis

Buenos Aires Dildos give: Scott D. Thompson + N36
Mexico City Suns give: Biggs + Cutler + Lemmens

Beunos Aires Dildos give: Steve Johnson
New York give: Pick 8 and Shaun Atley

Buenos Aires Dildos give: R.Warnock + N.72
New Dehli Tigers give: J.Melksham + N38

Buenos Aires Didlos give: N4 + N54
Cape Town give: Matt Crouch + Patrick Karnezis

Buenos Aires Dildos give: Brent Harvey + James Kelly + Pick 18
Mexico City Suns give: Brad Hill + Blake Acres + Dean Terlich

Buenos Aires give: Sam Gilbert + Pick 22
Mexico City Suns give: Tim Membrey + Pick 26

Christchurch trade: Taylor Adams, Dale Morris and pick 7
Dildos trade: Matthew Boyd, Picks 8 and Pick 26

Dildos trade: N38
Cairo trade: Justin Clarke and Troy Chaplin.

Rio Give: N.Graham + B.Newton + N.Foley + R.Nahas
Dildos Give: K.Cornes + D.Hale

PNL Trade: #15 + Liam Jones + Tyson Goldsack + Xavier Richards
Dillos Trade: Dane Swan + #58

Berlin trade: Jason Tutt, Nathan Wilson + Pick 81
Buenos Aires trade: Daniel Cross

Mexico trade: Lindsay Thomas, Sam Gilbert, Sam Siggins, John Butcher
Dillos trade: Drew Petrie, Darcy Byrne-Jones

Dildos trade: P.Chapman
Rio trade: J.Neade + R.Bewick + 41
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 25, 2015, 08:25:04 PM
i'm so confused now i have to compete with ossie and vinny to be coach of Toronto and they are going to be co coach so i have to be co coach if i want Toronto?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on August 25, 2015, 08:28:35 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 25, 2015, 08:25:04 PM
i'm so confused now i have to compete with ossie and vinny to be coach of Toronto and they are going to be co coach so i have to be co coach if i want Toronto?
No clue what you just said man but..

There are two new teams that will be drafted from the players from the Dillos and Toronto. Ossie and I are applying as co-coaches for one of the teams.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on August 25, 2015, 08:29:04 PM
Quote from: Vinny on August 25, 2015, 08:20:16 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 25, 2015, 08:16:03 PM
Dismantled the list then abandoned the rebuild after one season. Outstanding coaching performance Vin :P
Hey if you look back at our trades, all of them were pretty good except for trading out all our rucks and not getting enough for Swan (before DPP). It was either that or letting all our pensioners retire, which was our whole team :P

They do look like good long term trades. Why are you ditching the team though? If you need help running the team you could have just gotten a co-coach.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on August 25, 2015, 08:35:24 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 25, 2015, 08:29:04 PM
Quote from: Vinny on August 25, 2015, 08:20:16 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 25, 2015, 08:16:03 PM
Dismantled the list then abandoned the rebuild after one season. Outstanding coaching performance Vin :P
Hey if you look back at our trades, all of them were pretty good except for trading out all our rucks and not getting enough for Swan (before DPP). It was either that or letting all our pensioners retire, which was our whole team :P

They do look like good long term trades. Why are you ditching the team though? If you need help running the team you could have just gotten a co-coach.
Not ditching but I raised that I might struggle to keep up to date with all my XVs teams but was never going to drop the Dillos. But Ossie raised the idea, Purps liked it. I am happy to run with it because Ossie wants to get back into the game but can't do it alone and I want to stay in it but can't do it alone. Nails ditched because Nails.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 25, 2015, 08:49:54 PM
Why is a redraft needed??
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 25, 2015, 08:57:34 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 25, 2015, 08:49:54 PM
Why is a redraft needed??

I feel like by having a redraft, it gives the new coaches a sentimental feel towards the team and makes them feel like it is their own, rather than inheriting someone else's list. I also think this would cause them stick around for a little longer than they might have.

The other reason being, is to make Buenos Aires a little more competitive.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 25, 2015, 08:57:41 PM
Really happy to have Ossie as a coach. Oh sorry, I might have given away my vote lol

And this

Quote from: Ricochet on August 25, 2015, 08:49:54 PM
Why is a redraft needed??

Doesn't seem fair to teams like NDT and the other bottom teams

Dillos decided to take this approach of rebuilding, and the redraft seems like a get out of jail card for them

As for giving the new coaches a feeling of it being their own, plenty of coaches have taken over from teams (AK and I for example) and we made it our own by our trading and transformation so I don't see why it cant be done here. I get it would make them better, but on that assumption then you should add NDT to the redraft too although they wont opt for that and rightly so

TBH whatever decision is made wont bother me personally, but it does seem like a bit of a get out jail scenario
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 25, 2015, 09:02:34 PM
I do agree it might look like it makes NDT's quest up the ladder seem harder, but first I'd like to point out that they're not as bad as they have been, and that they also have Picks 1 and 2 at their disposal, which in the past has been used to acquire people like Alex Rance and Michael Barlow, so they are avenues to instantly improve.

The other bottom team this year was Cairo, and really they were just injury hit. The next bottom team was Rio, but they were the 6th highest scoring team this year.

You can also think of it this way; Buenos Aires becomes harder to beat, but Toronto becomes easier to beat as well. The challenge ahead for New Delhi really hasn't changed. Even look at Pacific last year, they got the spoon, only to then make finals the year after.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on August 25, 2015, 09:02:48 PM
I think the re draft will just create two mediocre teams. It worked last year because the Pumas were such a good side.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on August 25, 2015, 09:05:31 PM
To be fair, we didn't have much of a choice other than to rebuild. It is not like we flowered the team up, can't dispute any of our trades besides Swan one. No one was going to pay for those old guys and we did what we had to. People were also saying that they don't see us being competitive anytime soon because we don't have enough trade chips.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 25, 2015, 09:09:02 PM
so  going off current applications the 2 applicants who gets the highest votes out of

ossie/vinne
GL
iZander
me


gets a team?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 25, 2015, 09:10:02 PM
On averages, potentially

Team 1:

D: Jamie MacMillan, Tyson Goldsack, Lachlan Henderson, Daniel Merrett
M: Scott Pendlebury, Andrew Swallow, Taylor Adams, Jack Ziebell
R: Tom Hickey
F: Matthew Pavlich, Aaron Hall, Cameron Pedersen, Kane Mitchell
I: Richard Douglas, Jack Crisp


Team 2:

D: Ryan Griffen, Easton Wood, James Kelly, Troy Chaplin
M: Mitch Wallis, Ben Cunnington, Isaac Smith, Mitch Robinson
R: Paddy Ryder
F: Jay Schulz, Lindsay Thomas, Robin Nahas, Jake Melksham
I: Nicholas Graham, Bradley Hill


Then there is players like Brayshaw, De Goey, Ah Chee, Lennon, Turner, Lemmens, Ellis...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 25, 2015, 09:10:46 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 25, 2015, 09:09:02 PM
so  going off current applications the 2 applicants who gets the highest votes out of

ossie/vinne
GL
iZander
me


gets a team?

Yes.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 25, 2015, 09:14:36 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 25, 2015, 09:10:46 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 25, 2015, 09:09:02 PM
so  going off current applications the 2 applicants who gets the highest votes out of

ossie/vinne
GL
iZander
me


gets a team?

Yes.

Maybe KB and GL can co-coach too?

No offense to Zander - just suggesting it as they have both been around here much longer and know each other. Could work

Purps - So this is final - the Dildos are getting merged for sure? No vote?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 25, 2015, 09:18:37 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 25, 2015, 09:14:36 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 25, 2015, 09:10:46 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 25, 2015, 09:09:02 PM
so  going off current applications the 2 applicants who gets the highest votes out of

ossie/vinne
GL
iZander
me


gets a team?

Yes.

Maybe KB and GL can co-coach too?

No offense to Zander - just suggesting it as they have both been around here much longer and know each other. Could work

Purps - So this is final - the Dildos are getting merged for sure? No vote?

I kinda thought (perhaps naively) that people would be keen for this...

I guess I could put a vote out if people wanted that.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 25, 2015, 09:22:22 PM
sorry but no

that's why i left Tokyo i don't like being co coach yes i am in bxv but i pretty much do as i please there

i don't even like being assistant

spend all day discussing a trade then offer it to the other party and get told no gets old real quick
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 25, 2015, 09:26:34 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 25, 2015, 09:22:22 PM
spend all day discussing a trade then offer it to the other party and get told no gets old real quick

AK and I don't have that problem - just gotta be in sync  ;D

Yeah fair enough man. Good Luck with your application :)

@ Purps, like I said earlier to me personally it doesn't bother me one bit. I was just raising the fact that some of the lower teams might feel differently and they might care
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 25, 2015, 09:29:41 PM
btw team name suggestion or place of the team anyway https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malta
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 25, 2015, 09:30:45 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 25, 2015, 09:26:34 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 25, 2015, 09:22:22 PM
spend all day discussing a trade then offer it to the other party and get told no gets old real quick



Yeah fair enough man. Good Luck with your application :)


cheers bro
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on August 25, 2015, 09:37:05 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 25, 2015, 09:18:37 PM
I kinda thought (perhaps naively) that people would be keen for this...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on August 25, 2015, 09:42:51 PM
Yeah I'm pretty strongly against a re-draft. Holz, Toga and I had a bottom team not long ago and now will all probably be top 8 sides next year. I really like all the trades the Dildos did last year and with another strong draft they won't be too far away - just have to be patient.

The re-draft will just take away another team that might be able to compete with Dublin in the future imo. For the balance of the comp, I'd rather have a fringe top 8 side (Toronto) and a team at the bottom of the ladder but w/ great potential (Dildos) rather than just two teams in the 10-12 range if a re-draft was done.

Just my two cents :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on August 25, 2015, 10:15:34 PM
Also against the re-draft because of the Buenos Aires rebuild last season. If they hadn't done that then I might be for it but, as others have said they've just abandoned it one season in.

If we do this we set a precedent where teams abandon their team after a bad year and get it re-drafted. Then being popular Worlds coaches they are highly likely to get voted back in to coach one of the new teams if they wanted. I don't like that. To be honest I'm not sure why we did it last year. It has turned out okay because, as someone mentioned before me, of how good Sao Paolo was but, Toronto is maybe only half the team the Pumas were and Buenos Aires is the second worst side in the comp.

This will just create two lower mid table teams - neither likely to push for finals in the near future. They will both eventually rebuild, or go for youth straight away handing their players to the top teams and further expanding the divide between the worst and best teams in the competition.

If Ossie wants in then he can be the Buenos Aires co-coach if Vinny wants or form a partnership to be a co-coach with one of the new guys who wants to coach Toronto.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 25, 2015, 10:27:07 PM
the thing that ruins teams is no direction and changing strategy too much. thats why redraft is hard as you kind of need to have a strategy on the fly.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 25, 2015, 10:30:11 PM
memph what you mean who wants to coach tokyo?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on August 25, 2015, 10:44:35 PM
thanks everyone who voted me to be co-coach  ;D ;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on August 25, 2015, 10:49:18 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 25, 2015, 10:30:11 PM
memph what you mean who wants to coach tokyo?

Toronto - I always get mixed up between those two sides. Hopefully no more when Toronto goes
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on August 25, 2015, 10:55:14 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on August 25, 2015, 10:44:35 PM
thanks everyone who voted me to be co-coach  ;D ;D

Thoroughly deserved 8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on August 26, 2015, 12:19:29 AM
Yeah same as kb, I'd rather be sole coach of a team. Otherwise it'd mean always having to wait for the other person to respond to PMs and stuff, and would just get annoying (for me anyway). And that goes both ways, using kb as an example, I'd feel like as he's on much more than I am, he'd always be waiting on me for responses and stuff and that would make me sort of feel like I shouldn't be co-coach, if that makes any sense at all haha.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on August 26, 2015, 12:40:09 AM
Quote from: Toga on August 25, 2015, 10:55:14 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on August 25, 2015, 10:44:35 PM
thanks everyone who voted me to be co-coach  ;D ;D
Thoroughly deserved 8)
Did the hard yards for a good 3-4 years before being fully prepared and committed for the role :D.

Also yay Ossie coming back to a team :D. Also means Vinny can stick around to see the Dillos rebuild considering he wanted to stick around for it.

And re-draft is interesting... Reckon put it to a vote seeing as some here are against it, so some won't say it out in the open forum but may vote against it given a vote in private.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on August 26, 2015, 07:08:34 AM
Yeah I don't mind either way but people saying that it'll create two mid table teams, I disagree. With a re-drafted team we will be able to trade harder and turn it around quickly whereas Dillos will take longer because there are little players people want.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 26, 2015, 08:41:27 AM
Quote from: Vinny on August 26, 2015, 07:08:34 AM
Yeah I don't mind either way but people saying that it'll create two mid table teams, I disagree. With a re-drafted team we will be able to trade harder and turn it around quickly whereas Dillos will take longer because there are little players people want.

Yeah but you knew that would happen when you decided to completely gut the team and rebuild  :-\
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 26, 2015, 09:03:42 AM
i love rebuilding teams have turned the Ducks and Dragons into awesome young teams
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 26, 2015, 09:36:40 AM

Ah! Turned out to be a bit controversial :/

Please note I'm not in favor of redrafting just to get a better side (I don't play this game to have the best team necessarily), I'm for a redraft because I feel it gives new-coaches coming in a greater sense of ownership of a team. And we did talk about this becoming a regular thing last year (when multiple coaches quit the teams are 'merged').

We've had new coaches come into bad teams, and leave pretty quickly after it, because it isn't much fun losing every week to a team you had no control of in the beginning, while I think the Rio de Janeiro and Christchurch new teams have worked out outstandingly well (realising coming off a stronger base).

I don't believe it makes it harder for New Delhi - as Purps pointed out on average the other 17 teams are the same strength. New Delhi are in it for the long haul and have previously rejected ideas of similar mergers for them, which I also respect.

I also think it is a myth that Buenos Aires was going through a rebuild, it felt to me more like a move to burn down the house, but I don't believe that was Vinny's fault or intention, and feel we could have a strong partnership.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 26, 2015, 09:45:20 AM
Ok... think a vote is gonna happen.

Stay tuned!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 26, 2015, 10:29:22 AM
I'm not fussed about the re-draft either way, and I'm sure my co-coach feels the same.

Speaking of which, co-coaches generally don't work out unless they're really in sync and have ease of communication.

For example, at Cairo: Polo, Dave, Marlon and I have a Facebook chat to discuss everything and talk shower (plus Dave, Marlon and I all coach in BXVs too) so that makes everything much easier for us. Not to mention that Polo and I are pretty laidback and he's happy for me to be the forum active side of our co-coaching duo.

But yeah, as long as we get good and active coaches on board, everything will be fine.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 26, 2015, 10:42:08 AM
Quote from: Nige on August 26, 2015, 10:29:22 AM
I'm not fussed about the re-draft either way, and I'm sure my co-coach feels the same.

Speaking of which, co-coaches generally don't work out unless they're really in sync and have ease of communication.

For example, at Cairo: Polo, Dave, Marlon and I have a Facebook chat to discuss everything and talk shower (plus Dave, Marlon and I all coach in BXVs too) so that makes everything much easier for us. Not to mention that Polo and I are pretty laidback and he's happy for me to be the forum active side of our co-coaching duo.

But yeah, as long as we get good and active coaches on board, everything will be fine.

It depends on people.

If your stubborn have a bit of an ego and think your correct all the time you need to do it alone.


in Soviet Dublin, Holz word is final.


Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 26, 2015, 11:35:12 AM
After one hour, already 9 votes in!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 26, 2015, 03:46:58 PM
Don't want to put any pressure on the last coach (and you know who you are), but the votes are currently 8-7 (I won't say which vote is winning).

Argh. Really? I bet ya it will be a tie, then someone's gotta have to make a decision that people won't like  :-\
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 26, 2015, 03:51:21 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 26, 2015, 03:46:58 PM
Don't want to put any pressure on the last coach (and you know who you are), but the votes are currently 8-7 (I won't say which vote is winning).

Argh. Really? I bet ya it will be a tie, then someone's gotta have to make a decision that people won't like  :-\

go tie go.

make a call Purp when its this close.

I dont have any voting just get a few peoples advice and go for it. My advice is basically your going to annoy 50% of people no matter what you do, so just do what you think is right
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on August 26, 2015, 04:12:27 PM
If it's 8-8, I'll make the deciding vote. So don't worry Jack, I got your back! doges be crazy.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on August 26, 2015, 04:18:59 PM
What would you prefer, GoLions (if that really is your name)?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 26, 2015, 04:19:13 PM
As in any democracy as leader of the house you get the casting vote Purps so use it well, (How much do you want in that paper bag)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on August 26, 2015, 04:26:45 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 26, 2015, 04:18:59 PM
What would you prefer, GoLions (if that really is your name)?
The one that makes me a coach and that I also get Pendles.

Alternatively, the one that Nige doesn't vote for.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on August 26, 2015, 04:35:48 PM
So this is what I get for sleeping in today... FFS
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 26, 2015, 06:04:54 PM
Fyfe gone.

terrible end to the year.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 26, 2015, 06:06:24 PM
All, righty.

Yep. It happened. 8 votes a-piece. Great. It's funny, coz I obviously voted for option 1 first, then the next 5 coaches to vote all said option 2, and I was like "Really?! Am I that out of touch with everyone?!" There were people on either side that said they weren't fussed, but voted for that particular option anyway, so I think that cancels each other out.

I feel like the major reason why people voted to keep the players separate, is that they didn't want to give vinny/Buenos Aires the get out of jail-free card after just one season into the rebuild. And that is fair enough, I'd vote no too if I didn't have my reasons (to follow). I don't want to set a precedent for coaches that, if they cocked up their team, then they can team-up with another coach who mucked up theirs and they get start over again. And people will say that they probably will just vote them in again anyway, because it would be "against the spirit" of something... so the risk of not getting re-elected is minimal. I disagree. I feel that if its obvious that this is the case, people will vote against them to get re-elected. We saw that happen (I forget who) when someone left a Worlds team to join another stronger one... only for comp to deny him the move.

I also think that vinny's intention to merge is not spurred on by a selfish unsportsman desire to get out of the rebuild. I feel like he is doing it with the right intentions. It should also be pointed out, that even though vinny did decide his share of those trades (most of which were pretty good), I believe the direction was decided by Nails. So it is of my opinion and belief that his coaching moves shouldn't be affected by that of the decisions of his co-coach.

After saying that, I hope some of the people whom voted the keep the players separate might be lenient, and understand my decision to continue with the re-draft.

I totally understand why people voted against it. When ossie and I were talking hypothetical's (like we often do), I brought up that I wasn't sure if I'd support a merger if a bottom team was to join a mid tier team (this was before Toronto), in fear of competitiveness. However, after I did some research, I quickly came around. So if this was the major reason why you voted against it, I hope in time you will also find that it won't be that bad.

I think I remember (but can't find a quote... think ossie said it), that at the time that Christchurch & Rio were being built, that it was discussed that this would/could become a regular thing. So this decision is also consistent with that.

So yes, that's my decision *hides behind clipboard*
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 26, 2015, 06:08:15 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 26, 2015, 06:04:54 PM
Fyfe gone.

terrible end to the year.

Yeah - I would have been pissed if I made it this week!  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 26, 2015, 06:09:47 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 26, 2015, 06:08:15 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 26, 2015, 06:04:54 PM
Fyfe gone.

terrible end to the year.

Yeah - I would have been pissed if I made it this week!  :P

Happy that i got Libba + Buddy + NDS + SJ for Fyfe + Mundy + Clark
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 26, 2015, 06:10:33 PM
We were one of the teams that said we are not fussed with either decision, because quite frankly we're not

I raised the issue initially as I had the other lower teams in mind, but personally NY isn't bothered

Good Luck to the applicants, and lets hope this works out well for all of us :)

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 26, 2015, 06:12:47 PM
why doesnt the new coaches get a say if they want to redraft or not
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 26, 2015, 06:13:29 PM
Thanks Purps, I really don't want to cause a division though :/ wondering if it's best to withdraw?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 26, 2015, 06:15:50 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 26, 2015, 06:13:29 PM
Thanks Purps, I really don't want to cause a division though :/ wondering if it's best to withdraw?

Don't be silly Os

It has nothing to do with you personally, or even Vinny for that matter. It's all about the pass the Dillos get, but I agree in that Nails was the driving force behind that poor decision

There's rebuilding, but that was completely gutting the side
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 26, 2015, 06:16:06 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 26, 2015, 06:12:47 PM
why doesnt the new coaches get a say if they want to redraft or not

It should be a community decision for current senior coaches IMO.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 26, 2015, 06:16:43 PM
Ill change my vote to redraft so it win 9 to 7.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 26, 2015, 06:18:07 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 26, 2015, 06:16:06 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 26, 2015, 06:12:47 PM
why doesnt the new coaches get a say if they want to redraft or not

It should be a community decision for current senior coaches IMO.

yeah but the new coaches should get a vote and once elected maybe state to the other coaches if they want a redraft or not

not like ossie/vinny getting a team is guaranteed
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Boomz on August 26, 2015, 06:18:48 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 26, 2015, 06:13:29 PM
Thanks Purps, I really don't want to cause a division though :/ wondering if it's best to withdraw?

Nah it's all good os, don't withdraw.

I voted against it but at the end of the day someone has to make a decision, I'll back it and move on   :)

Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 26, 2015, 06:12:47 PM
why doesnt the new coaches get a say if they want to redraft or not

Because they haven't been chosen yet and it kind of has to been decided on before choosing coaches...

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on August 26, 2015, 06:18:50 PM
I know most of you reckon I dismantled the team but when I made those trades, they were when I was assistant and Nails just asked to trade out all the old guys for the best deals possible, he was super firm on this. Not trying to get out of blame for them and I stand by them being the right trades for that particular path but anyway. Then he realized we were going to get destroyed and ditched, eventually because he was inactive, I became co-coach.

Then when I ask for him to help name teams and get involved, he said we suck and we had different intentions for the team in the off-season, ahah flower that.

This is why I am kind of bitter and don't give a shower if Nails is sacked with or without his opinion.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 26, 2015, 06:21:17 PM
Quote from: Boomz on August 26, 2015, 06:18:48 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 26, 2015, 06:13:29 PM
Thanks Purps, I really don't want to cause a division though :/ wondering if it's best to withdraw?

Nah it's all good os, don't withdraw.

I voted against it but at the end of the day someone has to make a decision, I'll back it and move on   :)

Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 26, 2015, 06:12:47 PM
why doesnt the new coaches get a say if they want to redraft or not

Because they haven't been chosen yet and it kind of has to been decided on before choosing coaches...

why do you need to know if we're redrafting or not? whoever you vote in should be competent in any scenario
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 26, 2015, 06:23:00 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 26, 2015, 06:15:50 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 26, 2015, 06:13:29 PM
Thanks Purps, I really don't want to cause a division though :/ wondering if it's best to withdraw?

Don't be silly Os

It has nothing to do with you personally, or even Vinny for that matter. It's all about the pass the Dillos get, but I agree in that Nails was the driving force behind that poor decision

There's rebuilding, but that was completely gutting the side

I know it's not personal :)

I reckon though Vinny and I will be a good pair if elected, will go with decision, thanks guys
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 26, 2015, 06:23:22 PM
Also... I can't actually believe everyone voted today. You guys are pretty damn awesome, I'm just sayin.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 26, 2015, 06:25:21 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 26, 2015, 06:23:22 PM
Also... I can't actually believe everyone voted today. You guys are pretty damn awesome, I'm just sayin.

very quick for awards also. Great bunch of coaches
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 26, 2015, 06:30:02 PM
We voted against it but meh not too concerned either way tbh. I know that we don't want to be apart of a redraft though, so that when we make finals next year it'll be our boys that have done it.

I just hope we don't continue to have redrafts just for the hell of it in the future. The Dillos would have been fine if they have another decent year of trading.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 26, 2015, 06:35:39 PM
Whats interesting is there is much much more talk about rules then the actual prelim finals.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 26, 2015, 06:41:17 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 26, 2015, 06:35:39 PM
Whats interesting is there is much much more talk about rules then the actual prelim finals.

and trading
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on August 26, 2015, 07:01:58 PM
There's only four teams in the prelim finals and it seems like those matches are foregone conclusions to me with Dublin and Mexico set to meet in the final.

Yeah there could be an upset but, not if Dublin/Mexico continue to score the way they have in the back half of the season.

To be honest as a weaker team this year we are just looking forward to the off-season/next year where we can try and work at improving our side enough to break Dublin/Mexico City's dominance on the future (probably not quite next season though for us).

Although I was against the merger I'm happy with your decision Purple.

Can I ask one thing though? We get the merger draft done asap so it doesn't affect the trade window :P.

Because, as it stands now these new teams are going to miss out on some players because deals have been agreed to. I reckon to make it fair for them we open trading maybe a week after the re-draft is done?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 26, 2015, 07:04:38 PM
yeah waiting until the end of round 23 to close applications sucks make it this Sunday
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on August 26, 2015, 07:11:51 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on August 26, 2015, 07:01:58 PM
Yeah there could be an upset but, not if Dublin/Mexico continue to score the way they have in the back half of the season.

QuoteBut the Saints would have won 3 of the past 5

I called it early in the season when Dublin were scoring 5000 every week; we don't peak in round 1.

What's it going to take to get some respect around here? 5 flags in a row?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Boomz on August 26, 2015, 07:11:54 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on August 26, 2015, 07:01:58 PM
There's only four teams in the prelim finals and it seems like those matches are foregone conclusions to me with Dublin and Mexico set to meet in the final.

Yeah there could be an upset but, not if Dublin/Mexico continue to score the way they have in the back half of the season.

To be honest as a weaker team this year we are just looking forward to the off-season/next year where we can try and work at improving our side enough to break Dublin/Mexico City's dominance on the future (probably not quite next season though for us).

Although I was against the merger I'm happy with your decision Purple.

Can I ask one thing though? We get the merger draft done asap so it doesn't affect the trade window :P.

Because, as it stands now these new teams are going to miss out on some players because deals have been agreed to. I reckon to make it fair for them we open trading maybe a week after the re-draft is done?

Yeah agree with this. Maybe send out the vote along with the rule changes?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on August 26, 2015, 07:25:23 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 26, 2015, 06:30:02 PM
I just hope we don't continue to have redrafts just for the hell of it in the future. The Dillos would have been fine if they have another decent year of trading.
Agree with this 100%.
Not sure why we don't just let Vinny keep the Dillos so he can continue on his rebuild, and then find a new coach for Toronto.

But happy to move on, and respect Purp's decision. Also, it'd be great to have Oss back in WXV. So if having the re-draft gets him back in, it should work out well :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 26, 2015, 07:35:42 PM
Yeah ok, why not. Will close applications this Sunday.  :)

Should be a busy week next week!  :o
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 26, 2015, 07:38:52 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/fmUb1u7.gif)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 26, 2015, 07:48:04 PM
also regarding team names do the new coaches get to make suggestions and vote

you guys talk about having the coaches feel like it's there own team choosing the name greatly achieves this i think it's silly this has to get voted on

let the new coaches decide team names if enough coaches voice there dislike then come up with another name
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on August 26, 2015, 07:51:02 PM
Kb with the strong gif game, flower. Gonna have to up my game it seems.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 26, 2015, 07:54:21 PM
One new team name needs to come from Canada, the other needs to come from South America.

The new coach can decide the secondary name, but I'd like to push that the Cananda-based team be called Manitoba, as it was Toronto's reserve team name.

This is just an informal process. Decide a name, idc, and if people like it, that's what we'll do.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 26, 2015, 08:10:03 PM
Manitoba Warriors
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on August 26, 2015, 08:11:27 PM
Manitoba is a state, WXV is city based is it not?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 26, 2015, 08:12:09 PM
Winnipeg Warriors even better

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on August 26, 2015, 08:18:11 PM
The Moody Manitoba Mammoths

Venezuela Vuvuzelas

Brazilian Beavers
Brazilian Blizzards
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 26, 2015, 08:27:25 PM
Quote from: Jayman on August 26, 2015, 07:25:23 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 26, 2015, 06:30:02 PM
I just hope we don't continue to have redrafts just for the hell of it in the future. The Dillos would have been fine if they have another decent year of trading.
Agree with this 100%.
Not sure why we don't just let Vinny keep the Dillos so he can continue on his rebuild, and then find a new coach for Toronto.

But happy to move on, and respect Purp's decision. Also, it'd be great to have Oss back in WXV. So if having the re-draft gets him back in, it should work out well :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 26, 2015, 08:46:16 PM
Manitoba? Nah,  gotta be bigger

Vancouver, Montreal, Calgary, heck even Nova Scotia!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: AaronKirk on August 26, 2015, 08:52:09 PM
Vancouver Vikings

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 26, 2015, 09:39:46 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 26, 2015, 08:46:16 PM
Manitoba? Nah,  gotta be bigger

Vancouver, Montreal, Calgary, heck even Nova Scotia!
Calgary Canucks surely!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on August 26, 2015, 09:53:06 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 26, 2015, 08:12:09 PM
Winnipeg Warriors even better
Hailing from Winnipeg personally I'd love to see some of the boys run around under this name!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on August 26, 2015, 10:36:36 PM
The Manitoba Maple Syrups.

If France was allowed to have three cities and Reindeers, surely nobody can top that 8).

And sorry for the hold up guys, I can confirm, Daz and I were the last ones to vote today.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 27, 2015, 08:47:37 AM
Quote from: Nige on August 26, 2015, 09:39:46 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 26, 2015, 08:46:16 PM
Manitoba? Nah,  gotta be bigger

Vancouver, Montreal, Calgary, heck even Nova Scotia!
Calgary Canucks surely!

Well we cant go with Vancouver Canucks because that already exists (NHL team) so Calgary is OK!

Seriously though, this is WORLDS and Manitoba isnt exactly on the world scale haha

I actually like Toronto Wolves as is

What about the Buenos Aires Butchers? :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 27, 2015, 09:31:47 AM
Quote from: meow meow on August 26, 2015, 08:11:27 PM
Manitoba is a state, WXV is city based is it not?

It's clear I can't geography  :-[
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 27, 2015, 10:57:30 AM
Montreal Moose?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 27, 2015, 11:01:01 AM
It doesn't get much more Canadian than moose.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 27, 2015, 11:22:51 AM
Quote from: Hellopplz on August 26, 2015, 10:36:36 PM
The Manitoba Maple Syrups.

If France was allowed to have three cities and Reindeers, surely nobody can top that 8).

And sorry for the hold up guys, I can confirm, Daz and I were the last ones to vote today.

Barrie Beliebers?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on August 27, 2015, 11:41:02 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 27, 2015, 10:57:30 AM
Montreal Moose?
Montreal Meese :P.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on August 27, 2015, 12:25:48 PM
If anyone is interested in picking up a T10 team, shoot me a PM
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 27, 2015, 03:12:58 PM
Montreal Meese sounds pretty good.

Not much love for South America though  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on August 27, 2015, 03:16:51 PM
Lima Beans?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 27, 2015, 03:19:00 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 27, 2015, 03:12:58 PM
Montreal Meese sounds pretty good.

Not much love for South America though  :P

La Plata Armada

great homage to the dillos.

1.There is a armadillo called the La Plata three banded armidillo.
2. La Plata is the capital city of the province of Beunos Aires.

also how cool is the name
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 27, 2015, 03:24:37 PM
Montreal Meese - We're not your Friends, Buddy
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 27, 2015, 03:58:52 PM
Montreal Mounties, and the team logo is a Mountie with a porn stash
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on August 27, 2015, 04:04:11 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 27, 2015, 03:58:52 PM
Montreal Mounties

I like it!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 27, 2015, 04:05:29 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 27, 2015, 03:24:37 PM
Montreal Meese - We're not your Friends, Buddy

I'm not your buddy, pal!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on August 27, 2015, 04:06:05 PM
Surely we should keep the dildos as the name :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 27, 2015, 04:06:51 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 27, 2015, 03:19:00 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 27, 2015, 03:12:58 PM
Montreal Meese sounds pretty good.

Not much love for South America though  :P

La Plata Armada

great homage to the dillos.

1.There is a armadillo called the La Plata three banded armidillo.
2. La Plata is the capital city of the province of Beunos Aires.

also how cool is the name

That is actually so epic, so epic.

I'm keen for Montreal Meese and La Plate Armada personally! Or is Armada too close to Destroyers?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on August 27, 2015, 04:08:44 PM
And I like the Armada as well Holz cool suggestion ;)

I prefer Montreal Mounties to Meese, Meese seems a bit comical :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 27, 2015, 04:12:35 PM
After me deleting my PMs for the first couple of years then giving up, I finally made it!

(http://i1298.photobucket.com/albums/ag44/Purple7734/thing_zpsl6a3dydg.jpg)

Lol, random, but it looked cool to me :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 27, 2015, 04:18:10 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 27, 2015, 04:06:51 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 27, 2015, 03:19:00 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 27, 2015, 03:12:58 PM
Montreal Meese sounds pretty good.

Not much love for South America though  :P

La Plata Armada

great homage to the dillos.

1.There is a armadillo called the La Plata three banded armidillo.
2. La Plata is the capital city of the province of Beunos Aires.

also how cool is the name

That is actually so epic, so epic.

I'm keen for Montreal Meese and La Plate Armada personally! Or is Armada too close to Destroyers?

ohh and Amrada Armadillos.

pretty close.

well Destroyers still might not be around. So the Armada could take over
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 27, 2015, 04:19:38 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 27, 2015, 04:05:29 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 27, 2015, 03:24:37 PM
Montreal Meese - We're not your Friends, Buddy

I'm not your buddy, pal!
haha classic
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on August 27, 2015, 04:31:18 PM
La Plata Armada & Montreal Mounties sound pretty sick I reckon
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 27, 2015, 04:31:47 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 27, 2015, 04:12:35 PM
After me deleting my PMs for the first couple of years then giving up, I finally made it!

(http://i1298.photobucket.com/albums/ag44/Purple7734/thing_zpsl6a3dydg.jpg)

Lol, random, but it looked cool to me :P
Clocked up 6500 overnight, thanks to Toges.  :P

Sometimes I feel like I should have gone on a deleting spree, other days I just want the number to grow.

Pretty sure Holz has like double the amount I have though. :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on August 27, 2015, 05:07:24 PM
I have 4535 but it always tells me I have 3 new message even when I don't.

Anyone know how to fix that bug?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on August 27, 2015, 05:13:04 PM
Quote from: Vinny on August 27, 2015, 04:31:18 PM
La Plata Armada & Montreal Mounties sound pretty sick I reckon
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 27, 2015, 05:17:16 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 27, 2015, 04:31:47 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 27, 2015, 04:12:35 PM
After me deleting my PMs for the first couple of years then giving up, I finally made it!

(http://i1298.photobucket.com/albums/ag44/Purple7734/thing_zpsl6a3dydg.jpg)

Lol, random, but it looked cool to me :P
Clocked up 6500 overnight, thanks to Toges.  :P

Sometimes I feel like I should have gone on a deleting spree, other days I just want the number to grow.

Pretty sure Holz has like double the amount I have though. :(

thats still a pretty good effort. I probably have the most on FF though

14,422 and counting. will hit 15,000 probably in a month.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on August 27, 2015, 05:21:34 PM
Almost cracked 10k myself, Holz just has an unhealthy number haha
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 27, 2015, 05:22:24 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 27, 2015, 05:21:34 PM
Holz just has an unhealthy number haha
That's almost the exact phrase I was about to use haha.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 27, 2015, 05:23:24 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 27, 2015, 05:22:24 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 27, 2015, 05:21:34 PM
Holz just has an unhealthy number haha
That's almost the exact phrase I was about to use haha.

the scary thing would be how many I have sent.

you want to know how I get good deals. that number is the reason.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 27, 2015, 05:34:47 PM
Tom McDonald was exceptional this year 98 average soo far and he is still only 22 years old. Rumors are flying that he might be out the door already at the hands of the ruthless coach.

Weirdly one of the reasons is that his young, taller,  better brother Oscar is getting a gig this week.

coach Holz was heard saying "You though Tmac was special, wait till you see Omac"

(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/Media/Images/347694-tlsnewsportrait.jpg)

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 27, 2015, 06:28:54 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on August 27, 2015, 05:07:24 PM
I have 4535 but it always tells me I have 3 new message even when I don't.

Anyone know how to fix that bug?

there must be 3 messages somewhere that u missed maybe
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on August 27, 2015, 07:02:30 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 27, 2015, 06:28:54 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on August 27, 2015, 05:07:24 PM
I have 4535 but it always tells me I have 3 new message even when I don't.

Anyone know how to fix that bug?

there must be 3 messages somewhere that u missed maybe

Nope I've looked many times. It's something to do with coming to the site on my phone I think.

It started happened after that. Having said that though I just tried updating some settings and how I view  the messages and it seems to hav fixed itself.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 27, 2015, 07:17:47 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 27, 2015, 05:34:47 PM
Tom McDonald was exceptional this year 98 average soo far and he is still only 22 years old. Rumors are flying that he might be out the door already at the hands of the ruthless coach.

Weirdly one of the reasons is that his young, taller,  better brother Oscar is getting a gig this week.

coach Holz was heard saying "You though Tmac was special, wait till you see Omac"

You're basing that off what I told you at the start of the year aren't you  :P

OMac can actually kick, so look out AFL.

Also this:

Quote from: Toga on August 27, 2015, 05:13:04 PM
Quote from: Vinny on August 27, 2015, 04:31:18 PM
La Plata Armada & Montreal Mounties sound pretty sick I reckon
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 27, 2015, 07:23:43 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 27, 2015, 07:17:47 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 27, 2015, 05:34:47 PM
Tom McDonald was exceptional this year 98 average soo far and he is still only 22 years old. Rumors are flying that he might be out the door already at the hands of the ruthless coach.

Weirdly one of the reasons is that his young, taller,  better brother Oscar is getting a gig this week.

coach Holz was heard saying "You though Tmac was special, wait till you see Omac"

You're basing that off what I told you at the start of the year aren't you  :P

OMac can actually kick, so look out AFL.

Also this:

Quote from: Toga on August 27, 2015, 05:13:04 PM
Quote from: Vinny on August 27, 2015, 04:31:18 PM
La Plata Armada & Montreal Mounties sound pretty sick I reckon

Partly but I also looked through lots of phantom drafts from last year. Interestingly he is name in the forward line
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 27, 2015, 07:27:03 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 27, 2015, 07:23:43 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 27, 2015, 07:17:47 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 27, 2015, 05:34:47 PM
Tom McDonald was exceptional this year 98 average soo far and he is still only 22 years old. Rumors are flying that he might be out the door already at the hands of the ruthless coach.

Weirdly one of the reasons is that his young, taller,  better brother Oscar is getting a gig this week.

coach Holz was heard saying "You though Tmac was special, wait till you see Omac"

You're basing that off what I told you at the start of the year aren't you  :P

OMac can actually kick, so look out AFL.

Also this:

Quote from: Toga on August 27, 2015, 05:13:04 PM
Quote from: Vinny on August 27, 2015, 04:31:18 PM
La Plata Armada & Montreal Mounties sound pretty sick I reckon

Partly but I also looked through lots of phantom drafts from last year. Interestingly he is name in the forward line

Yeah it's a typo. In the club interview with him, he says he'll be playing defence. Seeing as Dawes is out, Tom McDonald will be playing up forward this week.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 28, 2015, 09:44:20 AM
A bit of shameless advertising - Vacant coaching position British XV's

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,104783.0.html
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on August 28, 2015, 03:36:35 PM
Very, very late to the conversation but it'll be sad to see two original teams folding. I like the idea of clubs having long histories, ups-and-downs, rebuilds etc. Certainly hope that if I were to leave Cape Town for whatever reason that the club would still prosper.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 28, 2015, 03:41:16 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on August 28, 2015, 03:36:35 PM
Very, very late to the conversation but it'll be sad to see two original teams folding. I like the idea of clubs having long histories, ups-and-downs, rebuilds etc. Certainly hope that if I were to leave Cape Town for whatever reason that the club would still prosper.

this is what I was thinking but never said.

There will be only 14 original teams left if this keeps happening the whole spirit of the comp is ruined. Its supposed to be able creating history and teams lasting for years.

thats four teams gone in the last two years.

I would like to see the mighty Dillos rebuild from the ashes and the Wolves who have always been just below the best teams actually rise up and take it.

these two new teams are in fact that, new. The history basically abolished.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on August 28, 2015, 04:10:29 PM
Coaches are able to put their stamp on inherited teams. Look at NY. Actually, look at Moscow. They've ripped my old list to shreds in search of being the greatest young team. When I look at them I think to myself that I never want to lose to Moscow because I think what they've done is a travesty, but I acknowledge that it's well and truly their team that's unrecognizable from the one I built. I wouldn't feel the same about St. Petersberg.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 28, 2015, 04:32:57 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 28, 2015, 04:10:29 PM
Coaches are able to put their stamp on inherited teams. Look at NY. Actually, look at Moscow. They've ripped my old list to shreds in search of being the greatest young team. When I look at them I think to myself that I never want to lose to Moscow because I think what they've done is a travesty, but I acknowledge that it's well and truly their team that's unrecognizable from the one I built. I wouldn't feel the same about St. Petersberg.

even teams without new coaches look nothing like they used too.

2012:

Scott Thompson, Nathan Grima, Nick Malceski, Ryan Schoenemakers
Dale Thomas, David Mundy, Michael Barlow, Callan Ward
Shane Mumford
Sam Day, Lachlan Hansen, Ashton Hams, Josh Walker
Josh Caddy, Shuan Atley

still on list

2015:

Grant Birchall, Robert Murphy, Tom Mcdonald, Alex Rance
Joel Selwood, Rory Sloane, Travis Boak, David Mundy
Todd Goldstein
Lance Franklin, Dustin Martin, Jack Gunston, Jarryd Roughead
Nick Dal Santo, Scott Thompson



Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 28, 2015, 04:47:58 PM
lol our original list when we took over

Still On List

New Delhi
1   Ben Jacobs
2   Domenic Cassisi
3   Garrick Ibbotson
4   Simon Black
5   Jarryd Blair
6   Kyle Cheney
7   Nicholas Duigan
8   George Horlin-Smith
9   Zac Dawson
10   Shaun Edwards
11   Leigh Montagna
12   Sharrod Wellingham
13   Ryan Bastinac
14   Kyal Horsley
15   Jake Melksham
16   Rhys Palmer
17   Aaron Mullett
18   Terry Milera
19   Sam Dunell
20   Ben Rutten
21   Matthew White
22   Dylan Buckley
23   Max Bailey
24   David Hille
25   Brent Renouf
26   Martin Mattner
27   Daniel Giansiracusa
28   James Podsiadly
29   Callum Bartlett
30   Lewis Roberts-Thomson
31   Jordan Murdoch
32   Viv Michie
33   Justin Koschitzke
34   Ian Callinan
35   Cory Dell'Olio
36   Will Langford
N07.37   Jake Stringer
N17.38   Nick Vlastuin
N79.39   Sam J Reid
N81.40   Cameron Ellis-Yolmen
N86.41   Gerald Ugle
R08.42   Lincoln McCarthy
R26.43   Jordan Kelly
R44.44   Bradley Helbig
R56.45   Jackson Ferguson
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 28, 2015, 04:58:01 PM
I actually forgot that we had Kosi, LRT, Dawson AND Renouf
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 28, 2015, 04:59:05 PM
terrible list to inherit.

probably should have kept stringer though, kids going to be amazing. Would love him on my list.

apart from that great effort.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 28, 2015, 05:06:32 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 28, 2015, 04:59:05 PM
terrible list to inherit.

probably should have kept stringer though, kids going to be amazing. Would love him on my list.

apart from that great effort.
Yeh from memory we got Duncan for Stringer so was quality for quality. Stringer will most likely turn out better though
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on August 28, 2015, 05:08:42 PM
Moscow

B: Shaw, Murphy, Higgins, Hombsch, Seedsman, May, Colq, Frawley, (Tambling, Blake, Hutchins, Allen, Hardingham, Clarke)
M: Fyfe, Ward, Treloar, Griffen, Tyson, J.Thomas, Sexton, (Tuck, Growden, Menegola)
R: Naitanui, C.Sinclair, Ceglar, Wallace
F: Martin, Darling, Dixon, Walters, Monfries, WHE, Vickery, McInnes, Gault (L.Adams, Burbury, T.Williams, Mooney, Dick, Mellington)


Since then Moscow have had 2 seasons of draft picks and trade periods


B: Dunn, Docherty, Vlastuin, Hombsch, Seedsman, May, Frawley, Colq, McDonald, C. Pearce,  Steinberg, Jamison, Fuller, Barrass, Pearce
M: Heppell, Ward, JOM, Armitage, Greenwood, Sheed, Bastinac, J.Thomas, J Simpkin
R: Naitanui, Pittonet
F: Gray, Hogan, Moore, Daniher, Ballantyne, Monfries, Vickery, J.Sinclair, Jenkins, Pickett, Hardisty, Lee, Ellard, McInnes, Gault


Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 28, 2015, 05:22:26 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 28, 2015, 05:08:42 PM
Moscow

B: Shaw, Murphy, Higgins, Hombsch, Seedsman, May, Colq, Frawley, (Tambling, Blake, Hutchins, Allen, Hardingham, Clarke)
M: Fyfe, Ward, Treloar, Griffen, Tyson, J.Thomas, Sexton, (Tuck, Growden, Menegola)
R: Naitanui, C.Sinclair, Ceglar, Wallace
F: Martin, Darling, Dixon, Walters, Monfries, WHE, Vickery, McInnes (L.Adams, Burbury, T.Williams, Mooney, Dick, Mellington)

dam thats a good team


Shaw 164 Murphy 93 Higgins 65 Hombsch 52
Fyfe 216 Ward 103 Treloar 114 Griffen 98
Nic Nat 137
Martin 111 Darling 93 Walters 99 Vickery 143
Sinclair 98 May 71

166 without HGA
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on August 28, 2015, 06:51:55 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 28, 2015, 04:59:05 PM
terrible list to inherit.

probably should have kept stringer though, kids going to be amazing. Would love him on my list.

apart from that great effort.

I'd kill for Stringer right now, bloke is a freak.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 28, 2015, 09:26:17 PM
Daniel Menzel killing it first game back. Menzel, Vardy and Cockatoo have got bright  futures with Geelong and New York :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 29, 2015, 08:54:13 PM
Starting to lean towards keeping the names of Toronto and Buenos Aires, as history is important and I do agree with points being made about keeping associations with current teams...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 30, 2015, 04:36:45 PM
Isaac motherflowering Heeney going big today. Premo forward in 2016
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 31, 2015, 10:01:26 PM
I'm glad to announce that WXVs are welcoming back both ossie85 & Vinny as newly elected coaches!

Furthermore, please join me in welcoming Adamant to the WXV community! You'll love it here mate!  8)

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on August 31, 2015, 10:12:55 PM
Welcome back Ossie and Vinny and welcome Adamant.

Now to your first point of business - trading Cape Town Pendlebury when you pick him up in the draft :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on August 31, 2015, 10:19:44 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on August 31, 2015, 10:12:55 PM
Welcome back Ossie and Vinny and welcome Adamant.

Now to your first point of business - trading Cape Town Pendlebury when you pick him up in the draft :P
congrats guys

but hang on memph pendles is PNL bound

if not i demand a vote recount :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 31, 2015, 10:40:02 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on August 31, 2015, 10:19:44 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on August 31, 2015, 10:12:55 PM
Welcome back Ossie and Vinny and welcome Adamant.

Now to your first point of business - trading Cape Town Pendlebury when you pick him up in the draft :P
congrats guys

but hang on memph pendles is PNL bound

if not i demand a vote recount :P

Your all fighting for Pendles when Graham is available
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on August 31, 2015, 10:54:41 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 31, 2015, 10:40:02 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on August 31, 2015, 10:19:44 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on August 31, 2015, 10:12:55 PM
Welcome back Ossie and Vinny and welcome Adamant.

Now to your first point of business - trading Cape Town Pendlebury when you pick him up in the draft :P
congrats guys

but hang on memph pendles is PNL bound

if not i demand a vote recount :P

Your all fighting for Pendles when Graham is available

Ben Graham retired years ago mate...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on September 01, 2015, 12:00:08 AM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on August 31, 2015, 10:54:41 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 31, 2015, 10:40:02 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on August 31, 2015, 10:19:44 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on August 31, 2015, 10:12:55 PM
Welcome back Ossie and Vinny and welcome Adamant.

Now to your first point of business - trading Cape Town Pendlebury when you pick him up in the draft :P
congrats guys

but hang on memph pendles is PNL bound

if not i demand a vote recount :P

Your all fighting for Pendles when Graham is available

Ben Graham retired years ago mate...

Not that ill get him now but check out nick Graham.

Lots of talent scouts at dublin.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on September 01, 2015, 01:04:08 AM
Quote from: Holz on September 01, 2015, 12:00:08 AM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on August 31, 2015, 10:54:41 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 31, 2015, 10:40:02 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on August 31, 2015, 10:19:44 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on August 31, 2015, 10:12:55 PM
Welcome back Ossie and Vinny and welcome Adamant.

Now to your first point of business - trading Cape Town Pendlebury when you pick him up in the draft :P
congrats guys

but hang on memph pendles is PNL bound

if not i demand a vote recount :P

Your all fighting for Pendles when Graham is available

Ben Graham retired years ago mate...

Not that ill get him now but check out nick Graham.

Lots of talent scouts at dublin.

That was a joke. I'm hot on Graham, had my eye on him for a while and picked him up in AXV the season before last. Good luck getting Vinny to trade him though if he drafts him back.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on September 01, 2015, 03:26:59 AM
congrats boys well done
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on September 01, 2015, 10:02:24 AM
Dublin could be in a bit of trouble this week!
Mundy likely to be rested
Sounds like North will be doing something similar.... look out Goldy, Hansen and NDS
Buddy under an injury cloud
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on September 01, 2015, 10:05:31 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 01, 2015, 10:02:24 AM
Dublin could be in a bit of trouble this week!
Mundy likely to be rested
Sounds like North will be doing something similar.... look out Goldy, Hansen and NDS
Buddy under an injury cloud

literally about to post this. Going to be massively annoyed if i lose because players were rested. Playing poorly like this week and losing in the champs is fine. Not even getting a chance with all those guys gone is just unfair given how well we went all season.

I could legit struggle to field a team.


Goldy, Hansen, NDS, Mundy, Walters, Buddy and who else?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 01, 2015, 10:39:02 AM
If all those guys do in fact get rested, at no fault of Mexico's it will feel like a tainted victory and it would be a real disappointing way to end what's been a great season in Worlds
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on September 01, 2015, 10:41:08 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 01, 2015, 10:39:02 AM
If all those guys do in fact get rested, at no fault of Mexico's it will feel like a tainted victory and it would be a real disappointing way to end what's been a great season in Worlds

If i won with those guys out though :P

remember I had no Buddy Goldy Rocky last year
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on September 01, 2015, 10:59:27 AM
Just give Goldy a rest, the others can play. I probably should've kept Currie :-\

Wonder what the odds are now?  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on September 01, 2015, 11:27:54 AM
Regarding this, At the end of last year I pushed for the BXV season to finish in Round 22.

This year for the first time it did and while we still had one of the finalists missing Fyfe that was supposedly for a genuine injury.

Otherwise the final went great. Now instead we have rep games in Round 23 instead of the most important game of the year.

I'd recommend this for WXV as well.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 01, 2015, 12:11:16 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on September 01, 2015, 11:27:54 AM
Regarding this, At the end of last year I pushed for the BXV season to finish in Round 22.

This year for the first time it did and while we still had one of the finalists missing Fyfe that was supposedly for a genuine injury.

Otherwise the final went great. Now instead we have rep games in Round 23 instead of the most important game of the year.

I'd recommend this for WXV as well.

Playing 2 matches over the bye rounds would be crappy... but generally don't have a huge objection to this

Of course players miss games during the regular season due to being rested also. And it is mostly just Ross Lyon
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on September 01, 2015, 12:14:08 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on September 01, 2015, 10:59:27 AM
Just give Goldy a rest, the others can play. I probably should've kept Currie :-\

Wonder what the odds are now?  :P

honeslty losing Goldy isnt the worse case scenario. Losing Buddy and Walters would suck far worse.


would mean Schoenemakers or josh Walker will have to play. Currie is actually good with Goldy. What would suck is a goldy late out.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on September 01, 2015, 12:18:30 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 01, 2015, 12:11:16 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on September 01, 2015, 11:27:54 AM
Regarding this, At the end of last year I pushed for the BXV season to finish in Round 22.

This year for the first time it did and while we still had one of the finalists missing Fyfe that was supposedly for a genuine injury.

Otherwise the final went great. Now instead we have rep games in Round 23 instead of the most important game of the year.

I'd recommend this for WXV as well.

Playing 2 matches over the bye rounds would be crappy... but generally don't have a huge objection to this

Of course players miss games during the regular season due to being rested also. And it is mostly just Ross Lyon

Yes some players are rested of managed throughout the season but, it's only generally one or two players and they usually only miss one week each.

There's a much higher percentage of players being rested in Round 23 and there could be multiples from one team (Freo are saying up to 11 this week).

Imagine if Berlin makes the the Grand Final in 2020 and the Demons make the finals for the first time in a long time but, can't lose their position and they rest 10 players. Instant win for whoever the Brewers are playing...

The CL final finished Rd 22 (and was a cracker) and the Americas XVIII SC grand final was in Rd 22 as well (also a cracker).
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on September 01, 2015, 12:19:24 PM
Also FYI McPharlin, Sandilands, Pavlich, Mundy, Hill and Spurr confirmed resting this week.

If Goldy misses Dublin are in big trouble...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on September 01, 2015, 12:20:10 PM
Walters also confirmed as missing
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 01, 2015, 12:23:24 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on September 01, 2015, 12:18:30 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 01, 2015, 12:11:16 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on September 01, 2015, 11:27:54 AM
Regarding this, At the end of last year I pushed for the BXV season to finish in Round 22.

This year for the first time it did and while we still had one of the finalists missing Fyfe that was supposedly for a genuine injury.

Otherwise the final went great. Now instead we have rep games in Round 23 instead of the most important game of the year.

I'd recommend this for WXV as well.

Playing 2 matches over the bye rounds would be crappy... but generally don't have a huge objection to this

Of course players miss games during the regular season due to being rested also. And it is mostly just Ross Lyon

Yes some players are rested of managed throughout the season but, it's only generally one or two players and they usually only miss one week each.

There's a much higher percentage of players being rested in Round 23 and there could be multiples from one team (Freo are saying up to 11 this week).

Imagine if Berlin makes the the Grand Final in 2020 and the Demons make the finals for the first time in a long time but, can't lose their position and they rest 10 players. Instant win for whoever the Brewers are playing...

The CL final finished Rd 22 (and was a cracker) and the Americas XVIII SC grand final was in Rd 22 as well (also a cracker).


Not disagreeing, just pointing out it isn't perfect. At least in the Grand Final it can only possibly impact 2 teams, whereas the Top of the Ladder Demons (we should really use realistic examples Memph :P ) could rest 5 players against the cellar dweller Hawks, just when Berlin is playing its most important match of the season.


BUT, I agree, it will probably be better to have Round 23 clear. Just the pain of having 2 rounds during the 3 bye rounds (it would mean it the middle round you'd actually be playing 2 games at the same time) isn't ideal either.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on September 01, 2015, 12:28:17 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on September 01, 2015, 12:19:24 PM
Also FYI McPharlin, Sandilands, Pavlich, Mundy, Hill and Spurr confirmed resting this week.

If Goldy misses Dublin are in big trouble...

If Walters plays then its a huge plus, i have 5 premo forward I need 4 to play.

Mundy Watson out in the mids hurt badly. Thompson and Walters are my cover for that.



edit Walters out.

Im screwed if anyone else is missing.

Buddy is the deal break he goes i dont think im any shot.

As it stands im playing one non premo
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on September 01, 2015, 04:07:49 PM
very big rumbling that the Shaz could make his worlds debut in the grandfinal.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 02, 2015, 03:16:24 PM
So when is this redraft happening?

In an ideal world I would love for the new teams to be selected, and the trade period opened by Sunday night  ;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: AaronKirk on September 02, 2015, 03:18:27 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 02, 2015, 03:16:24 PM
So when is this redraft happening?

In an ideal world I would love for the new teams to be selected, and the trade period opened by Sunday night  ;D

We have all off season so sort this out.....

no rush.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on September 02, 2015, 04:31:58 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 02, 2015, 03:16:24 PM
So when is this redraft happening?

In an ideal world I would love for the new teams to be selected, and the trade period opened by Sunday night  ;D

Ah, right. I guess I should tell everyone :P

Trade Window will still open Sunday Midnight :)

I will also open the draft thread on Sunday night as well. The new coaches agreed to this  :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 02, 2015, 04:37:49 PM
Rules need to be finalised before we draft

I'd prefer to have a team before trading starts

Why rush?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on September 02, 2015, 04:43:43 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 02, 2015, 04:37:49 PM
Rules need to be finalised before we draft

I'd prefer to have a team before trading starts

Why rush?

I am supportive of this as well.

Redraft the new teams first (why not start it now?) then open the trade window maybe a day or two after that has been done.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on September 02, 2015, 04:46:45 PM
Yes, why not start the draft now? It won't take the attention away from the grand final, it'll make WXV a vibrant hive of activity.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 02, 2015, 04:48:03 PM
Be nice to know final rules firsr those guys, particularly rucks
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on September 02, 2015, 04:48:22 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 02, 2015, 04:46:45 PM
Yes, why not start the draft now? It won't take the attention away from the grand final, it'll make WXV a vibrant hive of activity.

the grandfinal is already over. Just need Goldy NDS to be rested and its a matter how much do Mexico win by.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on September 02, 2015, 04:50:41 PM
The old 'act like you have no chance then when you win try to say its the upset of the millenia technique'

Noice!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on September 02, 2015, 04:52:57 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 02, 2015, 04:50:41 PM
The old 'act like you have no chance then when you win try to say its the upset of the millenia technique'

Noice!

exactly honestly i am the underdog but when you have guns your always a shot. I should have lost last year untill Selly pumped out 350 as captain

thats why he will never be traded. Single handed got me a flag.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on September 02, 2015, 04:56:10 PM
Sandilands single handedly got me a Champions League trophy.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on September 02, 2015, 04:58:25 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 02, 2015, 04:56:10 PM
Sandilands single handedly got me a Champions League trophy.

I know someone who will whole-Hartlettly disagree with you there...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on September 02, 2015, 05:08:47 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on September 02, 2015, 04:58:25 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 02, 2015, 04:56:10 PM
Sandilands single handedly got me a Champions League trophy.

I know someone who will whole-Hartlettly disagree with you there...

Tom Rockliff.

drop Sandi from the team.

put Shuan Mckernan in the ruck, put jeff garlett in the forward line.

Stick Rocky in the team instead of Ben reid.


-240 Sandi
-83 Reid

+292 Rocky
+ 97 Garlett

improved the squad by 66.

If i had of named a slightly different team i would have won, Sandi almost cost you a final.

Hartlett won you the game, or more importantly Tmac, Buddy, NDS, Selwood won you the game.


Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on September 02, 2015, 05:11:22 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 02, 2015, 04:50:41 PM
The old 'act like you have no chance then when you win try to say its the upset of the millenia technique'

Noice!
It's flowering annoying tbh
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on September 02, 2015, 05:15:43 PM
I wouldn't have even been in the final without Sandi since McKernan wasn't playing in the early rounds and I don't think Rockliff would have scored too well in the ruck. Sandi is the man. Champions League trophy winning captain, something Todd aspires to be someday.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 02, 2015, 05:44:44 PM
Yes I agree the draft needs to be done before the trade period opens - but why cant the draft just be done now?

I cant see how the rule changes are going to influence who you pick that much
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 02, 2015, 05:45:45 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 02, 2015, 05:44:44 PM
Yes I agree the draft needs to be done before the trade period opens - but why cant the draft just be done now?

I cant see how the rule changes are going to influence who you pick that much

probably not, but may as well have all the information
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 02, 2015, 06:05:15 PM
Well based on the update Purps gave earlier today - it doesn't look like there is going to be many rule changes anyway

I reckon the 3 of you just get together asap and smash out the redraft - get your new fresh teams out there for the rest of us to see and then get straight into your planning and trade talks, because whether you like it or not the longer you delay getting into trade talks the more you could find yourself missing out
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on September 02, 2015, 06:15:56 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 02, 2015, 05:45:45 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 02, 2015, 05:44:44 PM
Yes I agree the draft needs to be done before the trade period opens - but why cant the draft just be done now?

I cant see how the rule changes are going to influence who you pick that much

probably not, but may as well have all the information

I imagine the ruck rule will influence where Ryder goes.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on September 02, 2015, 06:26:35 PM
Have a way to solve the problem! Forget the re-draft, trading starts Sunday night, Oss/Vin get Dillos, Adamant gets Toronto. Just like how it's always worked in the past. Sometimes the simple way, is the best way :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on September 02, 2015, 06:31:08 PM
Don't mind when we do it.

Quote from: Jayman on September 02, 2015, 06:26:35 PM
Have a way to solve the problem! Forget the re-draft, trading starts Sunday night, Oss/Vin get Dillos, Adamant gets Toronto. Just like how it's always worked in the past. Sometimes the simple way, is the best way :)
Haha it is happening dude. Plus the reason Ada applied for the team was because we are doing the re-draft.

This is from a PM;

Quote from: Adamant on September 01, 2015, 07:03:59 PM
I was pretty keen on the fact there was going to be a re-draft (hence why I finally applied for a coaching gig), so would like to go though with it please. :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on September 03, 2015, 11:19:42 AM
Quote from: Holz on September 03, 2015, 11:16:04 AM
Can anyone think of a solution for restings. Perhaps start a round earlier?

A player getting 90% of their average if a clear resting?

not sure it just seems abit silly to have one team all year then 5-6 guys out who arent injured just because its round 23.

I know most people will say deal with it, but its something to think about.

Mexico could have mass restings as well and it just doesnt feel like a grandfinal with Dublin B against Mexcio B

Fair call.

Will see how the AFL is fixtured with two byes instead of one. Might look at having the final second last round.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on September 03, 2015, 11:22:48 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 03, 2015, 11:19:42 AM
Quote from: Holz on September 03, 2015, 11:16:04 AM
Can anyone think of a solution for restings. Perhaps start a round earlier?

A player getting 90% of their average if a clear resting?

not sure it just seems abit silly to have one team all year then 5-6 guys out who arent injured just because its round 23.

I know most people will say deal with it, but its something to think about.

Mexico could have mass restings as well and it just doesnt feel like a grandfinal with Dublin B against Mexcio B

Fair call.

Will see how the AFL is fixtured with two byes instead of one. Might look at having the final second last round.

Thanks.

I dont want to be making any excuses but this is two years in a row I have been hit hard by resting.

Last year Goldy Rocky Buddy this year im feeling it will be far worse.

The AFL has basically given the greenlight on Resting that concerns me as a footy fan. Im not going to the game friday night anymore.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on September 03, 2015, 01:12:01 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 03, 2015, 11:19:42 AM
Quote from: Holz on September 03, 2015, 11:16:04 AM
Can anyone think of a solution for restings. Perhaps start a round earlier?

A player getting 90% of their average if a clear resting?

not sure it just seems abit silly to have one team all year then 5-6 guys out who arent injured just because its round 23.

I know most people will say deal with it, but its something to think about.

Mexico could have mass restings as well and it just doesnt feel like a grandfinal with Dublin B against Mexcio B

Fair call.

Will see how the AFL is fixtured with two byes instead of one. Might look at having the final second last round.

I'm pretty sure I mentioned this in the rule discussion thread somewhere?

If not I definitely meant to.

The BXV finished in Round 22 and so did the Americas XVIII SC league and those finals were great and largely resting-unaffected.

Play the Rep games in the last round when restings come in to play and coaches have an unlimited amount of players to pick from.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on September 03, 2015, 02:42:58 PM
See ya later subs!

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Breaking: AFL will reduce interchange rotations from 120 to 90 next season. Sub rule gone. Clubs have been told.
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Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on September 03, 2015, 02:43:47 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 03, 2015, 02:42:58 PM
See ya later subs!

Jay Clark ‏@ClarkyHeraldSun
Breaking: AFL will reduce interchange rotations from 120 to 90 next season. Sub rule gone. Clubs have been told.
More @superfooty

CELLLLLLLLLLL

LLLLAAAAAA

BBRRAAATTTEEE

GOOD

TIMES

COME ON!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on September 03, 2015, 02:44:13 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 03, 2015, 02:43:47 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 03, 2015, 02:42:58 PM
See ya later subs!

Jay Clark ‏@ClarkyHeraldSun
Breaking: AFL will reduce interchange rotations from 120 to 90 next season. Sub rule gone. Clubs have been told.
More @superfooty

CELLLLLLLLLLL

LLLLAAAAAA

BBRRAAATTTEEE

GOOD

TIMES

COME ON!

booooooo
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on September 03, 2015, 02:44:49 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 03, 2015, 02:44:13 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 03, 2015, 02:43:47 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 03, 2015, 02:42:58 PM
See ya later subs!

Jay Clark ‏@ClarkyHeraldSun
Breaking: AFL will reduce interchange rotations from 120 to 90 next season. Sub rule gone. Clubs have been told.
More @superfooty

CELLLLLLLLLLL

LLLLAAAAAA

BBRRAAATTTEEE

GOOD

TIMES

COME ON!

booooooo
Trust
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on September 03, 2015, 02:55:56 PM
London would be pretty happy with that.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 03, 2015, 03:00:37 PM
To right Meow. No more subbing by Hartung who cost me some games.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on September 03, 2015, 04:04:18 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 03, 2015, 02:42:58 PM
See ya later subs!

Jay Clark ‏@ClarkyHeraldSun
Breaking: AFL will reduce interchange rotations from 120 to 90 next season. Sub rule gone. Clubs have been told.
More @superfooty

Why reduce the interchange cap?

Why not just let clubs do unlimited interchanges?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on September 03, 2015, 04:11:02 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on September 03, 2015, 04:04:18 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 03, 2015, 02:42:58 PM
See ya later subs!

Jay Clark ‏@ClarkyHeraldSun
Breaking: AFL will reduce interchange rotations from 120 to 90 next season. Sub rule gone. Clubs have been told.
More @superfooty

Why reduce the interchange cap?

Why not just let clubs do unlimited interchanges?

Because the game is turning to an ugly, boring rolling pack. The theory is that if players can't rest as much, they'll tire more and be more inclined to stay in positions rather than run around like headless chooks chasing the football.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on September 03, 2015, 04:17:30 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 03, 2015, 04:11:02 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on September 03, 2015, 04:04:18 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 03, 2015, 02:42:58 PM
See ya later subs!

Jay Clark ‏@ClarkyHeraldSun
Breaking: AFL will reduce interchange rotations from 120 to 90 next season. Sub rule gone. Clubs have been told.
More @superfooty

Why reduce the interchange cap?

Why not just let clubs do unlimited interchanges?

Because the game is turning to an ugly, boring rolling pack. The theory is that if players can't rest as much, they'll tire more and be more inclined to stay in positions rather than run around like headless chooks chasing the football.

If you didn't have the rule where players who go in and get the ball get penalised then that would fix it. Instead of trying to make players tired - what a load of BS.

Players don't want to get the ball because they'll get pinged for HTB, or done for the below the knees rule or some other bs interpretation.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 03, 2015, 04:32:29 PM

A cap on interchange would limit the damage of a player going down early
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on September 03, 2015, 04:33:16 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 03, 2015, 04:32:29 PM

A cap on interchange would limit the damage of a player going down early

but also increase the chance of a player getting injured (in my opinion)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on September 03, 2015, 04:56:34 PM
Another 2016 gun best XV forward in Petterd retires  :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on September 03, 2015, 05:04:06 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 03, 2015, 04:56:34 PM
Another 2016 gun best XV forward in Petterd retires  :(

@Fremantlefoootballclub Nathan Fyfe has called it quits #hewillbemissed
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on September 03, 2015, 05:11:20 PM
ok im calling dibs on this guy

Jonty Scharenberg - 2016 draftee.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 04, 2015, 08:20:03 AM
Looks like Sam Fisher is about to sign on for next year

Good news for NY being able to squeeze another year out of the veteran
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 07, 2015, 09:16:47 AM

Sup guys

My wife and I are expecting our 2nd kid sometime between now and Thursday :)

I'm taking a bit of a break from fanfooty for a bit, talk to Vinny about WXV or Purps for anything else.

Exciting times!

Oz
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on September 07, 2015, 09:33:06 AM
congrats Oss!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on September 07, 2015, 09:42:16 AM
Indeed! ossie13 now has ossie15 to contend for their uncle's favouritism...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on September 07, 2015, 10:06:53 AM
Congrats Os! Hope it all goes well. :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on September 07, 2015, 10:07:27 AM
Congrats Oz :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on September 07, 2015, 01:52:21 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 07, 2015, 09:16:47 AM

Sup guys

My wife and I are expecting our 2nd kid sometime between now and Thursday :)

I'm taking a bit of a break from fanfooty for a bit, talk to Vinny about WXV or Purps for anything else.

Exciting times!

Oz

Congrats mate!

Enjoy your break. I'm sure we'll (just) be able to manage without you.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on September 07, 2015, 02:08:17 PM
Quote from: Vinny on September 07, 2015, 10:06:53 AM
Congrats Os! Hope it all goes well. :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 07, 2015, 02:08:36 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 07, 2015, 02:08:17 PM
Quote from: Vinny on September 07, 2015, 10:06:53 AM
Congrats Os! Hope it all goes well. :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on September 07, 2015, 02:34:09 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 07, 2015, 02:08:36 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 07, 2015, 02:08:17 PM
Quote from: Vinny on September 07, 2015, 10:06:53 AM
Congrats Os! Hope it all goes well. :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on September 07, 2015, 04:52:34 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on September 07, 2015, 02:34:09 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 07, 2015, 02:08:36 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 07, 2015, 02:08:17 PM
Quote from: Vinny on September 07, 2015, 10:06:53 AM
Congrats Os! Hope it all goes well. :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on September 07, 2015, 07:03:07 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on September 07, 2015, 04:52:34 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on September 07, 2015, 02:34:09 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 07, 2015, 02:08:36 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 07, 2015, 02:08:17 PM
Quote from: Vinny on September 07, 2015, 10:06:53 AM
Congrats Os! Hope it all goes well. :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on September 07, 2015, 07:13:29 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on September 07, 2015, 07:03:07 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on September 07, 2015, 04:52:34 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on September 07, 2015, 02:34:09 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 07, 2015, 02:08:36 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 07, 2015, 02:08:17 PM
Quote from: Vinny on September 07, 2015, 10:06:53 AM
Congrats Os! Hope it all goes well. :D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: AaronKirk on September 07, 2015, 07:15:12 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 07, 2015, 07:13:29 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on September 07, 2015, 07:03:07 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on September 07, 2015, 04:52:34 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on September 07, 2015, 02:34:09 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 07, 2015, 02:08:36 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 07, 2015, 02:08:17 PM
Quote from: Vinny on September 07, 2015, 10:06:53 AM
Congrats Os! Hope it all goes well. :D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Adamant on September 07, 2015, 07:20:25 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on September 07, 2015, 07:15:12 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 07, 2015, 07:13:29 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on September 07, 2015, 07:03:07 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on September 07, 2015, 04:52:34 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on September 07, 2015, 02:34:09 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 07, 2015, 02:08:36 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 07, 2015, 02:08:17 PM
Quote from: Vinny on September 07, 2015, 10:06:53 AM
Congrats Os! Hope it all goes well. :D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 07, 2015, 07:55:27 PM
Quote from: Adamant on September 07, 2015, 07:20:25 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on September 07, 2015, 07:15:12 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 07, 2015, 07:13:29 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on September 07, 2015, 07:03:07 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on September 07, 2015, 04:52:34 PM
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Congrats Os! Hope it all goes well. :D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
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Congrats Os! Hope it all goes well. :D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: MajorLazer on September 07, 2015, 08:47:31 PM
Congrats Os! Hope it all goes well.  :D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on September 07, 2015, 08:48:12 PM
Quote from: MajorLazer on September 07, 2015, 08:47:31 PM
Congrats Os! Hope it all goes well.  :D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on September 07, 2015, 08:48:50 PM
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Congrats Os! Hope it all goes well. :D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: MajorLazer on September 07, 2015, 08:49:31 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 07, 2015, 08:48:12 PM
Quote from: MajorLazer on September 07, 2015, 08:47:31 PM
Congrats Os! Hope it all goes well.  :D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on September 07, 2015, 08:54:10 PM
Stop trying to steal my thunder :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on September 07, 2015, 09:02:35 PM
Quote from: Vinny on September 07, 2015, 08:54:10 PM
Stop trying to steal my thunder :P
Your Northern Thunder?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Vinny on September 07, 2015, 09:05:16 PM
Quote from: GoLions on September 07, 2015, 09:02:35 PM
Quote from: Vinny on September 07, 2015, 08:54:10 PM
Stop trying to steal my thunder :P
Your Northern Thunder?
I get it, cause my T10 team and we are talking about Thunder; and that was Northern Thunder. Jesus, you're good!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: fanTCfool on September 07, 2015, 11:34:11 PM
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Congrats Os! Hope it all goes well. :D

Oh and, while I'm here, is there any easy way to find out who owns what player without clicking through every team list?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 07, 2015, 11:39:06 PM
to find who has a player i use this thread

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,99835.0.html

then ctrl + f to search for the player
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: fanTCfool on September 07, 2015, 11:43:29 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 07, 2015, 11:39:06 PM
to find who has a player i use this thread

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,99835.0.html

then ctrl + f to search for the player

Sweet! Thanks KB!
Beijing, watch out.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on September 08, 2015, 07:19:19 AM
Quote from: fanTCfool on September 07, 2015, 11:43:29 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 07, 2015, 11:39:06 PM
to find who has a player i use this thread

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,99835.0.html

then ctrl + f to search for the player

Sweet! Thanks KB!
Beijing, watch out.

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,104833.0.html

basically the same as what KB posted but has this years points each player scored and also who has what draft picks

edit: and the updated dillos and wolves team lists after the re-draft
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on September 08, 2015, 12:22:21 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on September 07, 2015, 11:43:29 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 07, 2015, 11:39:06 PM
to find who has a player i use this thread

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,99835.0.html

then ctrl + f to search for the player

Sweet! Thanks KB!
Beijing, watch out.

Seriously dude - I don't want to see Tony's ugly mug on the FanFooty Forums...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 10, 2015, 04:15:59 PM
Federer always cracks me up with his humble brags, and he just said this

“It’s nice to play this way,” Federer said. “And, maybe at my age, to run through five opponents the way I have done here at the US Open, I don’t consider that normal, to be quite honest, even though I expect it in some ways.”

Reminds me of holz so much  ;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on September 10, 2015, 04:20:41 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 10, 2015, 04:15:59 PM
Federer always cracks me up with his humble brags, and he just said this

“It’s nice to play this way,” Federer said. “And, maybe at my age, to run through five opponents the way I have done here at the US Open, I don’t consider that normal, to be quite honest, even though I expect it in some ways.”

Reminds me of holz so much  ;D

why Thank you being compared to Federer is a really nice compliment.

Federer is the greatest tennis player i have ever seen and does it with a level of class unparalleled. To me im just Holz and i dont compare myself to anyone but thanks for the kind words.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 12, 2015, 02:04:10 PM
Thanks for cleaning up the Worlds forum HP - All the old stuff gone, nice and simple now :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on September 12, 2015, 02:21:06 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 12, 2015, 02:04:10 PM
Thanks for cleaning up the Worlds forum HP - All the old stuff gone, nice and simple now :)

I got HP to bulk move the game day threads, I did  the rest  :P

Still got some to clean up in due time in the Archives, but will get there  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 14, 2015, 07:14:07 PM
Cairo favourites Sam Dwyer and Jordon Bourke delisted.  :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on September 14, 2015, 08:18:45 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 12, 2015, 02:21:06 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 12, 2015, 02:04:10 PM
Thanks for cleaning up the Worlds forum HP - All the old stuff gone, nice and simple now :)
I got HP to bulk move the game day threads, I did  the rest  :P

Still got some to clean up in due time in the Archives, but will get there  ;)
Dratz, I can't claim any credit :P. But yeah, Comp Admins free to hit me up and I can bulk move basically all the threads somewhere else, whereas Mods for the boards can only do one at a time which is a pain and tedious.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 14, 2015, 10:25:11 PM
is anyone looking for a co coach
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on September 14, 2015, 10:31:22 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 14, 2015, 10:25:11 PM
is anyone looking for a co coach
I think Seoul is
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 14, 2015, 10:35:40 PM
Quote from: GoLions on September 14, 2015, 10:31:22 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 14, 2015, 10:25:11 PM
is anyone looking for a co coach
I think Seoul is

is it Dave be a smartass day?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Rusty00 on September 15, 2015, 10:34:31 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 14, 2015, 10:35:40 PM
Quote from: GoLions on September 14, 2015, 10:31:22 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 14, 2015, 10:25:11 PM
is anyone looking for a co coach
I think Seoul is

is it Dave be a smartass day?
Isn't that every day ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 15, 2015, 11:11:16 AM
Quote from: Rusty00 on September 15, 2015, 10:34:31 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 14, 2015, 10:35:40 PM
Quote from: GoLions on September 14, 2015, 10:31:22 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 14, 2015, 10:25:11 PM
is anyone looking for a co coach
I think Seoul is

is it Dave be a smartass day?
Isn't that every day ;)
Can confirm.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on September 15, 2015, 12:05:46 PM
I actually plan on having a few picks inside the top 35. Very exciting times.

got Omac 56 and Redden 66 last year and Holman 79, byrne 104, Holmes 111, Sheehan  116 the year before

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 15, 2015, 04:35:59 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 14, 2015, 07:14:07 PM
Cairo favourites Sam Dwyer and Jordon Bourke delisted.  :(
Add Matt Arnot to that.  :'(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 15, 2015, 06:11:29 PM
Quick question. Do the 4 rookies on top of our 40 players count in the Cap?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on September 15, 2015, 06:16:43 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 15, 2015, 06:11:29 PM
Quick question. Do the 4 rookies on top of our 40 players count in the Cap?

Pretty sure they do mate.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on September 15, 2015, 07:11:27 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 15, 2015, 06:11:29 PM
Quick question. Do the 4 rookies on top of our 40 players count in the Cap?

Yup.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 15, 2015, 07:50:42 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 14, 2015, 10:25:11 PM
is anyone looking for a co coach

guess nobody does
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on September 15, 2015, 07:53:41 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 15, 2015, 07:50:42 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 14, 2015, 10:25:11 PM
is anyone looking for a co coach

guess nobody does

Based on the activity of coaches this off-season I'd suggest maybe London might. Guessing Ringo is away but, he hasn't replied to one of my many PMs so far this off-season (I think) :P

But, you might have trouble getting hold of him.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 15, 2015, 08:11:52 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on September 15, 2015, 07:53:41 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 15, 2015, 07:50:42 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 14, 2015, 10:25:11 PM
is anyone looking for a co coach

guess nobody does

Based on the activity of coaches this off-season I'd suggest maybe London might. Guessing Ringo is away but, he hasn't replied to one of my many PMs so far this off-season (I think) :P

But, you might have trouble getting hold of him.
Some of us have lives outside of FF and September is always the busiest month of the year for me outside of football. with a number of things I am involved with. It is a pity it usually coincides with trading time as well has Football GF but that is the way the cookie crumbles.

I have 2 PM's from you sitting in my in box which I have started to look at but everytime I look at your list another player I am interested in has already been traded.  I am happy just sitting and going at my own pace over this period and if it costs me so be it.   
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on September 15, 2015, 08:13:11 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on September 15, 2015, 07:53:41 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 15, 2015, 07:50:42 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 14, 2015, 10:25:11 PM
is anyone looking for a co coach

guess nobody does

Based on the activity of coaches this off-season I'd suggest maybe London might. Guessing Ringo is away but, he hasn't replied to one of my many PMs so far this off-season (I think) :P

But, you might have trouble getting hold of him.
Hahahahahaha *cough* bxvs *cough*
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 15, 2015, 08:15:00 PM
don't make fun of Ringo
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on September 15, 2015, 10:16:18 PM
Got a bit of time on my hands atm so might do a quick B&F count in our thread soon. Pop by and see who's won!

And place your bets. Quick odds, Kennedy favourite to take out his third B&F and second in a row, but could see stiff competition from ruckmen Stef Martin and Mark Blicavs. Simple 5-4-3-2-1 voting system.

JPK - $2.40
Stef Martin - $3.00
Mark Blicavs - $5.00
Trent Cotchin - $14.00
Shaun Higgins - $14.00
Anyone else - $20.00
James Gwilt - $1001.00
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on September 15, 2015, 10:18:53 PM
$100 on Blicavs
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on September 15, 2015, 10:22:44 PM
20 on Higgins
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: AaronKirk on September 15, 2015, 10:25:25 PM
$50 on Stef Martin
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 15, 2015, 10:27:47 PM
1k on a boxed trifecta of JPK, Blitz and Stef  ;D

Money for jam  8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on September 15, 2015, 10:30:38 PM
Stefan would've polled a few 5's I reckon, Blicavs was nicely consistent though. I'll go with $20 on Stef ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on September 15, 2015, 11:06:44 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 15, 2015, 10:27:47 PM
1k on a boxed trifecta of JPK, Blitz and Stef  ;D

Money for jam  8)
RD may have just bankrupted the Cobras  :P

Cotchin made you sweat though!

JPK takes out his third B&F. What a man  :-*
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on September 16, 2015, 11:54:10 AM
check out Meows Team if you just held it

H.Shaw, B.Smith, P.Seedsman, J.Frawley
D.Mart, A.Treloar,D.Beams, T.Liberatore
Nic Nat
S.Higgins, T.Vickery, A.Christenson, T.Lynch
H.Bennell,R.Bastinac

then add 4 years of draft picks and see how you go.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on September 16, 2015, 12:05:21 PM
Put Dublin's first season team up
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on September 16, 2015, 12:28:32 PM
Moscow 2012

H.Shaw, B.Smith, P.Seedsman, J.Frawley
D.Mart, A.Treloar,D.Beams, T.Liberatore
Nic Nat
S.Higgins, T.Vickery, A.Christenson, T.Lynch
H.Bennell,R.Bastinac

Dublin 2012

S.D.Thompson, S.Atley, N.Malceski, L.Hansen
C.Ward, M.Barlow, J.Caddy, D.Mundy
S.Mumford
D.Thomas,R.Schoenemakers, Z.Clarke, J.Bruce
L.Neale, J.Omeara


T.Chaplin
B.Hill
B.Longer
S.Day


actually looking at that I had abit better theam then i expected. Lachy Neale and Jaeger Bomb saved me.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on September 16, 2015, 12:43:34 PM
Yeh that Dublin team isn't as bad as what i thought it was.

Even looking at NDT's original team. It had some ok players until the guns got traded away
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: LF on September 27, 2015, 03:28:22 PM
Just a bit of advertising for a vacant position in AXVIII DT

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,104976.0.html
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on September 27, 2015, 03:30:52 PM
Have had interest in young gun Riley Knight. We were keen to keep the kid, but if your interested hit us up
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on September 29, 2015, 02:14:17 PM
WXV Brownlow Medal Votes According to Last Seasons Teams:

Thought I'd do this just as a fun little thing to see how your players went in the Brownlow count. These are based off last seasons teams.

Beijing Thunder
Lachie Neale - 10
Eddie Betts - 7
Tom Bell - 6
Harry Taylor - 6
Josh Caddy - 6
Oliver Wines - 6
Sam Gray - 5
Liam Shiels    - 5
Matthew Kreuzer    - 3
Alipate Carlile - 2


Berlin Brewers
Nat Fyfe - 31
Jack Steven - 12
Adam Treloar - 7
Drew Petrie - 7
Charlie Dixon - 6
Max Gawn   - 4
Jack Viney   - 3
Jordan Murdoch   - 3
Michael Hibberd   - 2
Lewis Jetta    - 1
Total: 76


Buenos Aires Armadillos
Mitch Wallis - 8
Taylor Adams - 8
Easton Wood - 6
Bradley Hill    - 4
Lindsay Thomas   - 2
Lin Jong - 2
Jay Schulz - 1
Total: 31

Cairo Sands
Dayne Beams - 9
Brodie Smith - 6
Pearce Hanley - 3
Luke Breust - 3
Shane Mumford - 3
Jeremy McGovern - 2
Ben Brown   - 2
Rhys Palmer - 1
Dion Prestia - 1
Total: 30

Cape Town Cobras
Josh P Kennedy - 25
Trent Cotchin - 17
Jeremy Cameron - 12
Shaun Higgins - 8
Stefan Martin - 7
Mark Blicavs - 4
Tom Hawkins - 3
Stewart Crameri - 3
Sam B Reid - 2
Lachie Hunter - 2
Cameron McCarthy - 2
Total: 85

Christchurch Saints
Sam Mitchell - 26
Aaron Sandilands - 14
Matthew Boyd - 8
Luke Shuey - 7
Dayne Zorko - 5
Liam Picken - 4
Hamish Hartlett - 3
Jamie Elliott - 3
Jake Stringer - 3
Aaron Vandenberg - 3
Sean Dempster - 2
Tory Dickson - 2
Dylan Roberton - 2
Sam Gilbert - 1
Bryce Gibbs - 1
Total: 84

Dublin Destroyers
Dustin Martin - 21
David Mundy - 19
Todd Goldstein - 18
Travis Boak - 16
Joel Selwood - 13
Scott Thompson - 12
Jarryd Roughead    - 9
Alex Rance    - 8
Lance Franklin - 8
Jack Gunston - 7
Jobe Watson - 7
Robert Murphy - 5
Rory Sloane - 4
Josh Bruce - 4
Michael Walters - 3
Nick Dal Santo - 2
Josh Walker - 1
Total: 157

London Royals
Dan Hannebery - 24
Brent Stanton - 6
Shane Edwards - 6
Josh Hill - 3
Chris Mayne - 3
Jarrad McVeigh - 3
Adam Saad    - 3
Mark LeCras - 2
Danyle Pearce - 1
Sam Wright - 1
David Mackay - 1
Total: 53

Mexico City Suns
Bradley Ebert - 10
Steele Sidebottom - 9
Brett Deledio - 8
Jordan Lewis - 8
Nick Riewoldt - 6
Tom Rockliff - 4
Taylor Hunt - 4
Brent Harvey - 4
Ivan Maric - 3
Brendon Goddard - 2
Matthew Broadbent - 2
Kamdyn McIntosh - 2
Adam Oxley - 2
Kade Simpson - 1
Total: 65

Moscow Spetsnaz
Callan Ward - 19
Robbie Gray - 13
David Armitage - 12
Dyson Heppell - 10
Nic Naitanui - 7
Jesse Hogan - 5
Joe Daniher - 5
Tyrone Vickery - 4
Josh Jenkins - 3
Paul Seedsman - 3
Steven May - 1
Total: 82

New Delhi Tigers
Andrew Gaff - 17
Chris Masten - 5
Stephen Coniglio - 4
Jack Darling - 3
Isaac Heeney - 2
Total: 31

New York Revolution
Josh J Kennedy - 12
Jackson Macrae - 11
Harley Bennell - 7
Mitch Duncan - 6
Leigh Montagna - 5
Kurt Tippett - 4
Travis Cloke - 4
Sharrod Wellingham - 3
Jarrad Waite - 3
Josh Gibson - 1
Total: 56

Pacific Islanders
Marcus Bontempelli - 13
Tom Mitchell - 12
Cameron Guthrie - 6
Michael Barlow - 5
Devon Smith - 3
Michael Rischitelli - 3
Ben Howlett - 3
Jeremy Howe - 3
Michael Hurley - 2
Rory Laird - 2
Adam Goodes - 1
Tomas Bugg - 1
Jack Redden - 1
Total: 55

PNL Reindeers
Matt Priddis - 28
Dane Swan    - 17
Luke Hodge - 13
Nathan Jones - 10
Cyril Rioli - 7
Chad Wingard - 6
Dylan Shiel    - 6
Corey Enright - 4
Justin Westhoff - 3
Daniel Rich    - 3
Tom T Lynch - 2
Jack Billings - 2
Zachary Merrett - 1
Total: 102

Rio de Janeiro Jaguars
Bernie Vince - 14
Marc Murphy - 12
Taylor Walker - 10
Patrick Cripps - 6
Stephen Hill - 6
Elliot Yeo - 5
Gary Ablett - 5
Sam Jacobs - 4
Andrew Mackie - 3
Jack Riewoldt - 3
Bachar Houli - 2
Andrew Walker - 1
Total: 71

Seoul Magpies
Patrick Dangerfield - 22
Brandon Ellis - 7
Tom J Lynch - 5
Toby Greene - 3
Brandon Matera - 1
Total: 38

Tokyo Samurai
Anthony Miles - 9
Luke Parker - 9
Luke Dahlhaus - 7
Steven Motlop - 7
Jason Johannisen - 4
Kieran Jack    - 3
Shaun Burgoyne - 2
Andrew Carrazzo    - 1
Jack Frost - 1
Chris Judd - 1
Total: 44

Toronto Wolves
Scott Pendlebury    - 15
Andrew Swallow - 8
Jack Ziebell - 8
Aaron Hall - 5
Jack Crisp - 4
Sam Butler    - 3
Isaac Smith - 3
Ben Cunnington -3
Mitch Robinson - 3
Brendon Ah Chee -3
Jamie MacMillan   - 2
James Kelly - 2
Matthew Pavlich   - 2
Ryan Griffen - 2
Lachlan Henderson - 1
Total: 64





Final Team Leaderboard:
Dublin Destroyers - 157
PNL Reindeers - 102
Cape Town Cobras - 85
Christchurch Saints - 84
Moscow Spetsnaz - 82
Berlin    Brewers - 76
Rio de Janeiro Jaguars    - 71
Mexico City Suns    - 65
Toronto Wolves - 64
Beijing Thunder - 56
New York Revolution - 56
Pacific Islanders - 55
London Royals - 53
Tokyo Samurai - 44
Seoul Magpies - 38
Buenos Aires - 31
New Delhi Tigers - 31
Cairo Sands - 30
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on September 29, 2015, 02:21:28 PM
Priddis is making quite a name of himself 8).
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on September 29, 2015, 02:38:48 PM
ok I didnt quite expect that margin

Also Dmart most votes was a suprise. Goldy was robbed.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on September 29, 2015, 02:56:14 PM
#NoMummyNoCairo
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 29, 2015, 03:03:39 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 29, 2015, 02:56:14 PM
#NoMummyNoCairo
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on September 29, 2015, 03:06:45 PM
Fantastic work levi!


The Charlie is where it belongs 8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: upthemaidens on September 29, 2015, 03:15:29 PM
13 Votes in his second season.   Bontempelli you beast of a man.  :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on September 29, 2015, 03:25:09 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on September 29, 2015, 03:15:29 PM
13 Votes in his second season.   Bontempelli you beast of a man.  :)

Stringer is moving into the mids next year so Bont will probably have to settle for being runner up for the next decade.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on September 29, 2015, 03:39:07 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 29, 2015, 03:06:45 PM
Fantastic work levi!


The Charlie is where it belongs 8)

He probably was the best mid.

Goldy so good he came 10th as a mid.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 29, 2015, 11:31:10 PM
Could have posted this in other threads, but here is an update of all the retired and delisted players so far

ADELAIDE
Brent Reilly (retired)
Sam Siggins (retired)
James Podsiadly (retired)

BRISBANE LIONS
Matt Maguire (retired)
Brent Staker (retired)
Luke McGuane (retired)
Mitch Golby (delisted)
Jordon Bourke (delisted)
Jed Adcock (delisted)

CARLTON
Chris Judd (retired)
Andrew Carrazzo (retired)
David Ellard (retired)
Matthew Watson (delisted)
Cameron Giles (delisted)
Blaine Johnson (delisted)
Fraser Russell (delisted)

COLLINGWOOD
Clinton Young (delisted)
Sam Dwyer (delisted)
Tony Armstrong (delisted)
Michael Manteit (delisted)
Josh Thomas (delisted)
Lachie Keeffe (delisted)
Patrick Karnezis (retired)

ESSENDON
Paul Chapman (retired)
Dustin Fletcher (retired)
Jason Winderlich (retired)

FREMANTLE
Colin Sylvia (retired)

GEELONG
Jared Rivers (retired)
Hamish McIntosh (retired)
Brad Hartman (retired)
Sam Blease (retired)
James Toohey (retired)
Steve Johnson (delisted)
James Kelly (delisted)
Mathew Stokes (delisted)

GOLD COAST
Timmy Sumner (retired)
Andrew Raines (retired)
Greg Broughton (retired)
Josh Hall (delisted)
Tyrone Downie (delisted)
Jarred Ellis (delisted)
Andrew Raines (delisted)

GWS

HAWTHORN

MELBOURNE
Daniel Cross (retired)
Mark Jamar (delisted)
Aidan Riley (delisted)
Rohan Bail (delisted)
Jordie McKenzie (delisted)
Jack Fitzpatrick (delisted)

NORTH MELBOURNE
Nathan Grima (retired)
Leigh Adams (retired)
Eric Wallace (delisted)
Scott McMahon (delisted)
Max Warren (delisted)

PORT ADELAIDE
Kane Cornes (retired)
Daniel Flynn (retired)
Tom Logan (retired)
Mitch Harvey (delisted)
Sam Russell (delisted)
Jarrad Redden (delisted)
Mason Shaw (delisted)
Johann Wagner (delisted)

RICHMOND
Nathan Foley (retired)
Chris Newman (retired)
Chris Knights (retired)
Ricky Petterd (retired)
Matt McDonough (delisted)
Matt Arnot (delisted)

ST KILDA
Adam Schneider (retired)
Spencer White (delisted)
Arryn Siposs (delisted)
Tom Simpkin (delisted)
Daniel Markworth (delisted)

SYDNEY SWANS
Rhyce Shaw (retired)
Adam Goodes (retired)

WEST COAST
Beau Waters (retired)

WESTERN BULLDOGS
Ayce Cordy (delisted)
Brett Goodes (delisted)
Matthew Fuller (delisted)
Sam Darley (delisted)
Daniel Pearce (delisted)
Jordan Kelly (delisted)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on September 30, 2015, 12:22:07 AM
Nice job RD.

Dissapointed at the amount of Jags on that list though.  :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on September 30, 2015, 11:29:14 AM
Just had a look at my starting 15 and a have a heavy Victorian club bias.

when Treloar moves I will have 13 of my 15 players from Victorian Teams.

3 from tigers
3 from north
3 from hawks

quite interesting that 60% of my team comes from just 3 teams.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 06, 2015, 06:20:22 PM
Big win for Pacific

Alirr Aliir has just signed a contract extension for next year - Still a chance!  :D

Can add Lake and Hale to the list above for retirements too
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 08, 2015, 07:28:27 PM
Two of Karen's favourite boys have been delisted today. Club favourites Alex Woodward and Ryan Crowley are no longer on lists.  :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on October 08, 2015, 07:35:38 PM
#NoCrowleyNoCairo
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 08, 2015, 07:38:58 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 08, 2015, 07:35:38 PM
#NoCrowleyNoCairo
#NoAlexNoAlexandria
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on October 08, 2015, 08:30:27 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 08, 2015, 07:28:27 PM
Two of Karen's favourite boys have been delisted today. Club favourites Alex Woodward and Ryan Crowley are no longer on lists.  :(

Hawks said they will rookie Woodward though if no one else picks him up.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on October 19, 2015, 01:05:52 PM
Stevie J looking like going to GWS for 1 year minimum with an option for 2 years.

look out.

heres hoping he can do a Heath Shaw.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on October 19, 2015, 01:20:56 PM
Heath Shaw wasn't a 32 year old has-been when he switched to GWS.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on October 19, 2015, 01:28:14 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 19, 2015, 01:20:56 PM
Heath Shaw wasn't a 32 year old has-been when he switched to GWS.

Heath Shaw was never and will never be as good as SJ.

A 85 average forward isnt exactly a has-been.

If he can lift that to 90 ill be stoked.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on October 19, 2015, 01:31:11 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 19, 2015, 01:28:14 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 19, 2015, 01:20:56 PM
Heath Shaw wasn't a 32 year old has-been when he switched to GWS.

Heath Shaw was never and will never be as good as SJ.

A 85 average forward isnt exactly a has-been.

If he can lift that to 90 ill be stoked.

I'm sure your reserves team will be thrilled with that.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on October 19, 2015, 01:54:23 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 19, 2015, 01:31:11 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 19, 2015, 01:28:14 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 19, 2015, 01:20:56 PM
Heath Shaw wasn't a 32 year old has-been when he switched to GWS.

Heath Shaw was never and will never be as good as SJ.

A 85 average forward isnt exactly a has-been.

If he can lift that to 90 ill be stoked.

I'm sure your reserves team will be thrilled with that.

according to some people in trades.

Buddy is basically retired
Walters is injury prone and not that good.

he should play every game if that's the case.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on October 21, 2015, 06:04:33 PM
Adam Treloar goes to the pies, not calrton

(http://www.children-ne.org.uk/sites/default/files/donations/files/celebrate%20webversion.gif)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 26, 2015, 01:44:59 AM
me just sitting here waiting for a team to call me own in WXV

(http://i57.tinypic.com/eitb13.jpg)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on October 28, 2015, 05:02:18 PM
i always forget what draft do category B international rookies go into.

please say PSD
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on October 28, 2015, 05:04:43 PM
PSD
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on October 28, 2015, 05:37:48 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 28, 2015, 05:04:43 PM
PSD
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on October 29, 2015, 12:20:53 PM
Great news with the bye coming up before the finals.

should mean that half my squad isn't rested in the grand final.

Goldy is still yet to play in a grandfinal
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on October 29, 2015, 12:26:28 PM
Ah good, saves me a decision to make  8)

This is why I waited til the fixture was released :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on November 02, 2015, 10:36:59 AM
ok lets say I have a tiny list.

In what draft do i get to make the picks up in.

I dont have enough Nat Rookie and PSD picks to make up my sqaud numbers.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on November 02, 2015, 10:42:02 AM
Quote from: Holz on November 02, 2015, 10:36:59 AM
ok lets say I have a tiny list.

In what draft do i get to make the picks up in.

I dont have enough Nat Rookie and PSD picks to make up my sqaud numbers.

Say you have 23 players on your senior list. And you only have 5 NAT picks.

You would get (17-5=) 12 picks allocated to you at the end of the draft. You can pass on your last one to make use of your first PSD pick, your second last one to make use of your second PSD pick etc, etc. If you pass on more than two NAT picks, similarly, you will be allocated more PSD picks at the end of the PSD draft.

In the rookie draft, you will have (4 minus how many rookies you have =) X picks. After the first 4 rounds, we will continue to draft the remaining players until everyone has a home.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on November 02, 2015, 05:14:05 PM
Am I correct in assuming the players I de-list go into the PSD. There may be some surprise de-listings coming from London hence my query is there is nothing in the rules about de-listing players.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on November 02, 2015, 05:50:59 PM
Go into the nat draft
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on November 02, 2015, 08:16:15 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 02, 2015, 05:50:59 PM
Go into the nat draft

Yup. All the delisted players will be available in every draft, until they are selected.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 05, 2015, 02:14:40 PM
Nick O'Brien delisted.  :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on November 05, 2015, 02:18:01 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 05, 2015, 02:14:40 PM
Nick O'Brien delisted.  :(
Felt for PNL today after just trading them Hams, but he'll get re-rookied by Essendon so all good.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on November 05, 2015, 02:19:02 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 05, 2015, 02:18:01 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 05, 2015, 02:14:40 PM
Nick O'Brien delisted.  :(
Felt for PNL today after just trading them Hams, but he'll get re-rookied by Essendon so all good.
It was payback for Moller wasn't it? :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 05, 2015, 02:19:39 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 05, 2015, 02:18:01 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 05, 2015, 02:14:40 PM
Nick O'Brien delisted.  :(
Felt for PNL today after just trading them Hams, but he'll get re-rookied by Essendon so all good.
I'm just annoyed because we felt NOB would be good for the future and he was got him in to boost our mid stocks in the trade where we downgraded Prestia to Cotch.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on November 05, 2015, 02:24:58 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on November 05, 2015, 02:19:02 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 05, 2015, 02:18:01 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 05, 2015, 02:14:40 PM
Nick O'Brien delisted.  :(
Felt for PNL today after just trading them Hams, but he'll get re-rookied by Essendon so all good.
It was payback for Moller wasn't it? :(
haha didn't expect him to be delisted either. He's struggled so far but he's still developing.

So many NDT trades have involved delistings :o

ZWilliams + Apeness FOR Rich + Moller
Gaff + Darley + N40 FOR JMartin + Howe
Giles + McCarthy + N58 FOR Colledge + N47
Nicholls + Gorringe + Brooksby + N22 FOR Wallis + MCrouch + N59
Warnock FOR Myers + LDelaney
WHams   FOR   N72

Although a lot should get rookied


Quote from: Nige on November 05, 2015, 02:19:39 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 05, 2015, 02:18:01 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 05, 2015, 02:14:40 PM
Nick O'Brien delisted.  :(
Felt for PNL today after just trading them Hams, but he'll get re-rookied by Essendon so all good.
I'm just annoyed because we felt NOB would be good for the future and he was got him in to boost our mid stocks in the trade where we downgraded Prestia to Cotch.
He should get picked up surely
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on November 05, 2015, 05:34:07 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 05, 2015, 02:24:58 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on November 05, 2015, 02:19:02 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 05, 2015, 02:18:01 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 05, 2015, 02:14:40 PM
Nick O'Brien delisted.  :(
Felt for PNL today after just trading them Hams, but he'll get re-rookied by Essendon so all good.
It was payback for Moller wasn't it? :(
haha didn't expect him to be delisted either. He's struggled so far but he's still developing.

So many NDT trades have involved delistings :o

ZWilliams + Apeness FOR Rich + Moller
Gaff + Darley + N40 FOR JMartin + Howe
Giles + McCarthy + N58 FOR Colledge + N47
Nicholls + Gorringe + Brooksby + N22 FOR Wallis + MCrouch + N59
Warnock FOR Myers + LDelaney
WHams   FOR   N72

Although a lot should get rookied


Quote from: Nige on November 05, 2015, 02:19:39 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 05, 2015, 02:18:01 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 05, 2015, 02:14:40 PM
Nick O'Brien delisted.  :(
Felt for PNL today after just trading them Hams, but he'll get re-rookied by Essendon so all good.
I'm just annoyed because we felt NOB would be good for the future and he was got him in to boost our mid stocks in the trade where we downgraded Prestia to Cotch.
He should get picked up surely
Think we need to put you on the PNL's do not trade with list.....first Warnock now hams :P

Damn phone and spelling errors
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on November 05, 2015, 05:51:32 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on November 05, 2015, 05:34:07 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 05, 2015, 02:24:58 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on November 05, 2015, 02:19:02 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 05, 2015, 02:18:01 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 05, 2015, 02:14:40 PM
Nick O'Brien delisted.  :(
Felt for PNL today after just trading them Hams, but he'll get re-rookied by Essendon so all good.
It was payback for Moller wasn't it? :(
haha didn't expect him to be delisted either. He's struggled so far but he's still developing.

So many NDT trades have involved delistings :o

ZWilliams + Apeness FOR Rich + Moller
Gaff + Darley + N40 FOR JMartin + Howe
Giles + McCarthy + N58 FOR Colledge + N47
Nicholls + Gorringe + Brooksby + N22 FOR Wallis + MCrouch + N59
Warnock FOR Myers + LDelaney
WHams   FOR   N72

Although a lot should get rookied


Quote from: Nige on November 05, 2015, 02:19:39 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 05, 2015, 02:18:01 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 05, 2015, 02:14:40 PM
Nick O'Brien delisted.  :(
Felt for PNL today after just trading them Hams, but he'll get re-rookied by Essendon so all good.
I'm just annoyed because we felt NOB would be good for the future and he was got him in to boost our mid stocks in the trade where we downgraded Prestia to Cotch.
He should get picked up surely
Think we need to put you on the PNL's do not trade with list.....first Warnock now hams :P

Damn phone and spelling errors
Haha please don't be like that Daz, I enjoy our trade talks.

We would have had no idea those boys would get the chop, just lucky i guess. Might buy a lotto ticket tonight actually
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 05, 2015, 06:25:42 PM
Hams will get rookie listed he was told if nobody else takes him
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on November 05, 2015, 06:33:19 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 05, 2015, 05:51:32 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on November 05, 2015, 05:34:07 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 05, 2015, 02:24:58 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on November 05, 2015, 02:19:02 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 05, 2015, 02:18:01 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 05, 2015, 02:14:40 PM
Nick O'Brien delisted.  :(
Felt for PNL today after just trading them Hams, but he'll get re-rookied by Essendon so all good.
It was payback for Moller wasn't it? :(
haha didn't expect him to be delisted either. He's struggled so far but he's still developing.

So many NDT trades have involved delistings :o

ZWilliams + Apeness FOR Rich + Moller
Gaff + Darley + N40 FOR JMartin + Howe
Giles + McCarthy + N58 FOR Colledge + N47
Nicholls + Gorringe + Brooksby + N22 FOR Wallis + MCrouch + N59
Warnock FOR Myers + LDelaney
WHams   FOR   N72

Although a lot should get rookied


Quote from: Nige on November 05, 2015, 02:19:39 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 05, 2015, 02:18:01 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 05, 2015, 02:14:40 PM
Nick O'Brien delisted.  :(
Felt for PNL today after just trading them Hams, but he'll get re-rookied by Essendon so all good.
I'm just annoyed because we felt NOB would be good for the future and he was got him in to boost our mid stocks in the trade where we downgraded Prestia to Cotch.
He should get picked up surely
Think we need to put you on the PNL's do not trade with list.....first Warnock now hams :P

Damn phone and spelling errors
Haha please don't be like that Daz, I enjoy our trade talks.

We would have had no idea those boys would get the chop, just lucky i guess. Might buy a lotto ticket tonight actually

nah i know mate was firmly tongue in cheek humor

no problems at all ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on November 06, 2015, 05:56:10 PM
Shame this is a weak draft could have 10 draft picks to take in the nat and PSD

beter find some guys in there only have about 28 guys on AFL lists at the moment in my senior squad.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on November 06, 2015, 05:58:03 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 06, 2015, 05:56:10 PM
Shame this is a weak draft could have 10 draft picks to take in the nat and PSD

beter find some guys in there only have about 28 guys on AFL lists at the moment in my senior squad.
Orrr do some 1 player for 2 players type trades ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on November 06, 2015, 06:03:52 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 06, 2015, 05:58:03 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 06, 2015, 05:56:10 PM
Shame this is a weak draft could have 10 draft picks to take in the nat and PSD

beter find some guys in there only have about 28 guys on AFL lists at the moment in my senior squad.
Orrr do some 1 player for 2 players type trades ;)

thats Dublin blasphemy I just did a 4 for 0 player trade in the pick 5 deal.

I guess i picked up Dale and Yarran for Walters.

lets see these drafting skills come into play. picked up a few gems in the past.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on November 09, 2015, 03:24:57 PM
probably missed it by where are the Rookie and PSD lists?

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on November 09, 2015, 03:34:31 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 09, 2015, 03:24:57 PM
probably missed it by where are the Rookie and PSD lists?

After the trade period I'll create the official threads, but for the time being (assuming you meant draft order);

This is what it is currently:

PSD

1   Mexico City Suns
2   Toronto Wolves
3   Cairo Sands
4   Dublin Destroyers
5   Beijing Thunder
6   London Royals
7   Seoul Magpies
8   Cape Town Cobras
9   Tokyo Samurai
10   Buenos Aires Armadillos
11   New York Revolution
12   Pacific Islanders
13   Moscow Spetnaz
14   Berlin Brewers
15   Paris Nice Lyon Reindeers
16   Christchurch Saints
17   Dublin Destroyers
18   Mexico City Suns
19   New Delhi Tigers
20   Toronto Wolves
21   Cairo Sands
22   Christchurch Saints
23   Beijing Thunder
24   London Royals
25   Seoul Magpies
26   Cape Town Cobras
27   Tokyo Samurai
28   Buenos Aires Armadillos
29   New York Revolution
30   Pacific Islanders
31   Moscow Spetnaz
32   Berlin Brewers
33   Paris Nice Lyon Reindeers
34   Christchurch Saints
35   Dublin Destroyers
36   Mexico City Suns


Rookie Draft

1   New Delhi Tigers
2   Buenos Aires Armadillos
3   Cairo Sands
4   Rio de Janeiro Jaguars
5   Beijing Thunder
6   London Royals
7   Seoul Magpies
8   Cape Town Cobras
9   Tokyo Samurai
10   Buenos Aires Armadillos
11   New York Revolution
12   Pacific Islanders
13   Moscow Spetnaz
14   Berlin Brewers
15   Paris Nice Lyon Reindeers
16   Christchurch Saints
17   Dublin Destroyers
18   Mexico City Suns
19   New Delhi Tigers
20   Toronto Wolves
21   Cairo Sands
22   Rio de Janeiro Jaguars
23   Beijing Thunder
24   London Royals
25   Seoul Magpies
26   Cape Town Cobras
27   Tokyo Samurai
28   Toronto Wolves
29   New York Revolution
30   Pacific Islanders
31   Moscow Spetnaz
32   Berlin Brewers
33   Paris Nice Lyon Reindeers
34   Christchurch Saints
35   Dublin Destroyers
36   Mexico City Suns
37   New Delhi Tigers
38   Buenos Aires Armadillos
39   Cairo Sands
40   Rio de Janeiro Jaguars
41   Beijing Thunder
42   London Royals
43   Seoul Magpies
44   Cape Town Cobras
45   Tokyo Samurai
46   Buenos Aires Armadillos
47   New York Revolution
48   Pacific Islanders
49   Moscow Spetnaz
50   Berlin Brewers
51   Paris Nice Lyon Reindeers
52   Christchurch Saints
53   Dublin Destroyers
54   Mexico City Suns
55   New Delhi Tigers
56   Toronto Wolves
57   Cairo Sands
58   Rio de Janeiro Jaguars
59   Beijing Thunder
60   London Royals
61   Seoul Magpies
62   Cape Town Cobras
63   Tokyo Samurai
64   Toronto Wolves
65   New York Revolution
66   Pacific Islanders
67   Moscow Spetnaz
68   Berlin Brewers
69   Paris Nice Lyon Reindeers
70   Christchurch Saints
71   Dublin Destroyers
72   Mexico City Suns
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on November 09, 2015, 03:41:58 PM
thank you it is what i meant.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on November 09, 2015, 03:44:35 PM
Huge World News


(http://cache4.asset-cache.net/gc/478846408-nick-holman-of-the-blues-handballs-whilst-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=X7WJLa88Cweo9HktRLaNXhWb9eFE5WoEoRWW9sQYxfmjNlLy3tOYMRjFje3FEtdQVORikELq7EfzGQBTk0Cicg%3D%3D)
Carlton midfielder Nick Holman, who will keep training with Blues ahead of this month's NAB AFL Draft.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-09/permission-to-train-list-holman-training-with-blues-in-bid-to-continue-career (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-09/permission-to-train-list-holman-training-with-blues-in-bid-to-continue-career)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on November 14, 2015, 12:31:11 PM
hey guys
for the FF chat i hoste dit on a new page
http://ffchat.wix.com/chat

so i an thinking of taking down the pics of ablett and NN

and wanting to put up a logo for each comp that linkt o the board

we do not have a logo that i can see of
closet is one phas made a few years ago

(http://i.imgur.com/mAEHwrT.png)

are we happy to use this one? or does someone want a crack at making a new one?
or not bother?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on November 14, 2015, 01:32:01 PM
I've always wanted a logo for Worlds!

The above looks great, but love seeing other pitches!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 14, 2015, 03:03:52 PM
I'd love to see what Ada could create

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on November 14, 2015, 03:17:07 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 14, 2015, 03:03:52 PM
I'd love to see what Ada could create
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: fanTCfool on November 14, 2015, 05:45:02 PM
Thinking:
- WXVs = World
- Something that travels world = Bag
- Footy

(http://image-dumpster.weebly.com/uploads/2/3/0/8/23086026/248304_orig.png)

(http://image-dumpster.weebly.com/uploads/2/3/0/8/23086026/8608942_orig.jpg)


- That tag needs something on it

(http://image-dumpster.weebly.com/uploads/2/3/0/8/23086026/2936516_orig.png)

- That didn't fix the issue
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on November 14, 2015, 06:36:05 PM
Top job FTCF! That literally made me laugh ;D ;D.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: fanTCfool on November 15, 2015, 12:06:15 AM
Quote from: Hellopplz on November 14, 2015, 06:36:05 PM
Top job FTCF! That literally made me laugh ;D ;D.

Thanks HP!  8)

The font for 'WXV' would not have been my preference, but have seen it on Sherrin products before,

eg.

(http://media.supercheapauto.com.au/sports/images/zooms/41943601-zoom.jpg)

Have made one small adjustment, replacing the 'WXVs' on the tag to the FF Logo, as you would have the owner's name on a baggage name-tag, it just made sense.

(http://image-dumpster.weebly.com/uploads/2/3/0/8/23086026/8260597_orig.png)

Looking forward to seeing more ideas!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 23, 2015, 04:29:11 PM
Scharenberg has done his ACL.

What has Dublin coach Holz got to say on this matter?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on November 23, 2015, 04:34:23 PM
Looks like spud-Oxley has moved up in the pecking order and is now only 5 ppl deep for a game
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on November 23, 2015, 04:37:27 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 23, 2015, 04:29:11 PM
Scharenberg has done his ACL.

What has Dublin coach Holz got to say on this matter?

Not happy at all. Was going to be my d4.

Still got Grundy Hansen and depth players
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 23, 2015, 04:39:54 PM
20 years old and now both knees have been done

Feel sorry for the kid

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on November 24, 2015, 12:54:51 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 24, 2015, 12:29:16 PM
since Scharenberg is already LTI can i put him on the rookie list?

J.Foster, D.Butler, D.Howard, C Delaney, K.Heatherley, A.Browne to maybe go onto list instead of picks so this is just a guide.

Nah; but you'll basically be able to come Round 1 next year and promote someone off the rookie list for the year in place of the Shaz.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on November 24, 2015, 01:01:11 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 24, 2015, 12:54:51 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 24, 2015, 12:29:16 PM
since Scharenberg is already LTI can i put him on the rookie list?

J.Foster, D.Butler, D.Howard, C Delaney, K.Heatherley, A.Browne to maybe go onto list instead of picks so this is just a guide.

Nah; but you'll basically be able to come Round 1 next year and promote someone off the rookie list for the year in place of the Shaz.

Darn tough to chose spots on my main list. If I drop guys on my main list and pick them up on rookie do they get two years. Also if i drop a rookie then pick him up on the rookie do they get two more years?

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on November 24, 2015, 01:04:05 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 24, 2015, 01:01:11 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 24, 2015, 12:54:51 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 24, 2015, 12:29:16 PM
since Scharenberg is already LTI can i put him on the rookie list?

J.Foster, D.Butler, D.Howard, C Delaney, K.Heatherley, A.Browne to maybe go onto list instead of picks so this is just a guide.

Nah; but you'll basically be able to come Round 1 next year and promote someone off the rookie list for the year in place of the Shaz.

Darn tough to chose spots on my main list. If I drop guys on my main list and pick them up on rookie do they get two years. Also if i drop a rookie then pick him up on the rookie do they get two more years?

Yes on both.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on November 24, 2015, 01:06:36 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 24, 2015, 01:04:05 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 24, 2015, 01:01:11 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 24, 2015, 12:54:51 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 24, 2015, 12:29:16 PM
since Scharenberg is already LTI can i put him on the rookie list?

J.Foster, D.Butler, D.Howard, C Delaney, K.Heatherley, A.Browne to maybe go onto list instead of picks so this is just a guide.

Nah; but you'll basically be able to come Round 1 next year and promote someone off the rookie list for the year in place of the Shaz.

Darn tough to chose spots on my main list. If I drop guys on my main list and pick them up on rookie do they get two years. Also if i drop a rookie then pick him up on the rookie do they get two more years?

Yes on both.
It is a risk though and I suspect a number of us are in the same boat making a decision do we promote or do we d-list those over 2 years. Calculated risks maybe.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on November 24, 2015, 01:07:35 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 24, 2015, 01:04:05 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 24, 2015, 01:01:11 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 24, 2015, 12:54:51 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 24, 2015, 12:29:16 PM
since Scharenberg is already LTI can i put him on the rookie list?

J.Foster, D.Butler, D.Howard, C Delaney, K.Heatherley, A.Browne to maybe go onto list instead of picks so this is just a guide.

Nah; but you'll basically be able to come Round 1 next year and promote someone off the rookie list for the year in place of the Shaz.

Darn tough to chose spots on my main list. If I drop guys on my main list and pick them up on rookie do they get two years. Also if i drop a rookie then pick him up on the rookie do they get two more years?

Yes on both.

thanks Purp.

probably shouldnt have dumped all my rookie picks then :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on November 24, 2015, 05:23:40 PM
Lads if you're interested in joining the Asian comp, have a read of the below

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,105139.0.html

Please Note
Due to the need to start our own drafts and keep the off-season moving, applications will be open for just over a day, closing at 11:59PM AEDT on Wednesday 25th November

So jump in straight away
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on November 26, 2015, 03:08:26 PM
Hey all!

Below is the before-list-lodgement rookie list for each team.

* denotes second year rookie that must be delisted or promoted

Beijing Thunder
Braydon Preuss
Jarred Ellis *
Jayden Hunt
Malcolm Karpany
Roarke Smith
Zac Webster *

Berlin Brewers
Lachlan Langford
Luke McGuane
Max King
Rowen Powell
Sam Schulz

Buenos Aires Armadillos
Fraser Russell
John Butcher
Robin Nahas

Cairo Sands
Dallas Willsmore *
Fletcher Roberts
Jake Long
Tyrone Downie
Will Fordham

Cape Town Cobras
James Toohey
Johann Wagner

Christchurch Saints
Harris Andrews
Ivan Soldo
Jeremy Finlayson
Zac Dawson

Dublin Destroyers
Joe Baker-Thomas
Max Warren
Neville Jetta *
Paddy Brophy
Shem-Kalvin Tatupu *

London Royals
Archie Smith *
Hugh Beasley
Josh Clayton
Kaiden Brand
Michael Luxford *
Scott McMahon

Mexico City Suns
Dylan Main
James Rose
Jesse Palmer
Nic Newman
Sam Siggins *

Moscow Spetsnaz
Ariel Steinberg *
Brenton Payne
Eric Wallace
Keenan Ramsey
Sean McLaren

New Delhi Tigers
Bradley Walsh
Sam Russell
Simon White

New York Revolution
Daniel Pearce
Dylan Addison
Mitchell White

Pacific Islanders
Alirr Aliir
Anthony Wilson
Billy Gowers
Harry Dear
Joel Tippett *
Tom Logan

PNL Reindeers
Thomas Vandeleur
Tom Simpkin
Zac O'Brien *

Rio de Janeiro Jaguars
Adam Schneider *
Alex Johnson
Jermaine Miller-Lewis
Matthew Hammelmann
Tom Read

Seoul Magpies
Brent Macaffer
Daniel Flynn
Jacob Ballard *
Jason Castagna
Michael Manteit
Zachary Bates *

Tokyo Samurai
Jordie McKenzie
Lewis Melican
Mitchell J Brown
Patrick Ambrose *
Reilly O'Brien
Tom Derickx *

Toronto Wolves
Corey Adamson
Jordan Foote
Josh Watts
Kurt Aylett
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on November 26, 2015, 03:12:00 PM
Some teams have less than 5, because they traded them out to another team.

FTR, those players are now on those teams senior list, and can't stay on that teams rookie list.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on November 27, 2015, 06:20:59 PM
For anyone that wants a quick read ;) http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,83787.msg1692496.html#msg1692496
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on November 28, 2015, 06:42:06 PM
Alrighty.

Now, I may be wrong, but I count 119 players delisted or retired this year.

I also count 115 new players.

So, 819 - 119 + 115 = 815.

815/18 = 45 players each + 5 remaining players.

Which means 5 teams will have 6 rookies, and the rest will have 5. However, as I may be wrong, I would still prefer everyone to submit 4 rookie spots, and have everyone to re-enter the rookie draft at Round 5.

Which means say, if you have a top 10 rookie pick and decide to keep 4 rookies, you won't be able to use that top 10 pick... instead re-enter at Round 5. I know that kinda sucks, but it's the way I'd like it to be done.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 01, 2015, 03:06:43 PM
(http://www.watoday.com.au/content/dam/images/1/m/1/2/j/t/image.related.articleLeadNarrow.300x0.1m0tml.png/1426578237966.jpg)

He's back
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 09, 2015, 05:26:24 PM
With all the academy selections in the draft, who thinks that its a good idea for worlds.

If a player from your Country makes it into the afl you can bid on them.

Would be great for the comp i think to have those links.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on December 09, 2015, 05:33:57 PM
No otherwise i want to move to the US
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on December 09, 2015, 05:44:29 PM
or Ireland
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on December 09, 2015, 05:47:39 PM
Karen shall be moving to Australia and be called the 'Strayan Sands'.

Also we left Nige in Cairo, so Polo (ML) is now the official sole coach.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 09, 2015, 05:56:42 PM
actually if you count people with parents from overseas you want England. I was just joking but its an interesting topic.l

Germany:
Jack Riewoldt
Nick Riewoldt
Dean Terlich

Italy:
Brett Deledio
Reece Conca
Stephen Coniglio
Paul Puopolo

Netherlands:
Andrew Swallow
David Swallow
David Hale
Daniel Pearce

NZ:
Dustin Martin
Shane Savage
Marley Williams

England:
Pearce Hanley
Brodie Smith
Andrew Swallow
David Swallow
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on December 09, 2015, 07:34:30 PM
It's a nice idea, but ultimately I don't think it would be a very fair rule, as some countries would produce much more than others, if they do at all.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 10, 2015, 01:25:53 PM
ok so it looks like Martin is a good shot at keeping dpp

absolutely stacked up front if it happen

Dustin Martin
Lance Franklin
Jarryd Roughead
Jack Gunston
Jack Reiwoldt
Steve Johnson
Matt Kennedy

I know people were chasing forwards last trade period and with 7 of the top 10 forwards (DT) losing status there will be teams that need it.

I need mids.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on December 10, 2015, 03:02:18 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 10, 2015, 01:25:53 PM
ok so it looks like Martin is a good shot at keeping dpp

absolutely stacked up front if it happen

Dustin Martin
Lance Franklin
Jarryd Roughead
Jack Gunston
Jack Reiwoldt
Steve Johnson
Matt Kennedy

I know people were chasing forwards last trade period and with 7 of the top 10 forwards (DT) losing status there will be teams that need it.

I need mids.

Assuming he's not banned for year :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 10, 2015, 03:10:33 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on December 10, 2015, 03:02:18 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 10, 2015, 01:25:53 PM
ok so it looks like Martin is a good shot at keeping dpp

absolutely stacked up front if it happen

Dustin Martin
Lance Franklin
Jarryd Roughead
Jack Gunston
Jack Reiwoldt
Steve Johnson
Matt Kennedy

I know people were chasing forwards last trade period and with 7 of the top 10 forwards (DT) losing status there will be teams that need it.

I need mids.

Assuming he's not banned for year :P

im calling it the overreaction of the year.

would be a transitivity if that happened, I would lose alot of respect for the afl and general society for the double standards
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on December 10, 2015, 07:24:30 PM
Nice try with the bidding system Holz, all those Irish recruits on the cheap? Pfft ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 10, 2015, 07:26:07 PM
Quote from: elephants on December 10, 2015, 07:24:30 PM
Nice try with the bidding system Holz, all those Irish recruits on the cheap? Pfft ;)

You do get first dibs on all the Indian players coming through though.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 11, 2015, 09:23:37 AM
Saints look good with monty dpp
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on December 11, 2015, 09:36:39 AM
Quote from: Holz on December 11, 2015, 09:23:37 AM
Saints look good with monty dpp

How the hell...

There is not one FF game summary that mentions him playing forward. But, I suppose that's not exactly DPP criteria.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 11, 2015, 09:55:08 AM
Does annoy me when I have real forwards in Gunston Roughy buddy Jroo


Dont even care if Martin mid only.

Watch all these mids get dpp and NDS stay mid only.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on December 11, 2015, 01:28:33 PM
Annoying that Montagna now somehow gets fwd dpp after we traded him

No crystal ball saw that coming :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 11, 2015, 01:37:02 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 11, 2015, 01:28:33 PM
Annoying that Montagna now somehow gets fwd dpp after we traded him

No crystal ball saw that coming :(

they just pick dpp out of a hat sometimes. so we cant guess it.

who Knows maybe Tom Liberatore will be a F/R next year for some reason.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on December 11, 2015, 01:37:57 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 11, 2015, 01:37:02 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 11, 2015, 01:28:33 PM
Annoying that Montagna now somehow gets fwd dpp after we traded him

No crystal ball saw that coming :(

they just pick dpp out of a hat sometimes. so we cant guess it.
Yep that's exactly what happens
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on December 11, 2015, 01:42:46 PM
They use heat maps don't they? Surely Joey didn't spend so much time forward?

Anyway, Rosa got def dpp so that's great for us
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on December 11, 2015, 02:42:50 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 11, 2015, 09:23:37 AM
Saints look good with monty dpp
meow is a genius  :o
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on December 11, 2015, 02:43:34 PM
*sits back*

Ah, FINALLY sorted out all threads in the past 4 years into the relative Archives  8)

Loved reading through some of those threads, the nostalgia is real.

Can't believe it's been 4 years now  :D

Especially were it all began:

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,44494.0.html (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,44494.0.html)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on December 11, 2015, 02:50:59 PM
I used to delete my PMs when I first started, but I don't anymore. But anyway, at the time, I kept a chosen few, and this is my first PM in my inbox

Quote from: ossie85

The draft is now open!

When it is your turn to pick, you have 24 hours to pick a player. If you are going to be unavailable, organise for someone else to take your pick for you, or send draft preferences to the neutral MTTY.

Players can only be picked from 2011 listed players. A seperate draft for the newly drafted players will be held later.

Remember. We're picking not just for the present, but for the future! Scoring is based on SUPERCOACH. Meaning you should pick players that score well in this game primarily.

The order has been randomly decided, and is a reverse draft. The first 36 picks are:

roo boys!   1
PowerBug   2
CrowsFan   3
pothead   4
Purple 77   5
My Chumps   6
carltonrok   7
Sid   8
MajorLazer   9
Cookie Monster   10
meow meow   11
Maca24   12
FisherSaints   13
Hellopplz   14
Holzman   15
bomberboy0618   16
ossie85   17
Boomz   18
Boomz   19
ossie85   20
bomberboy0618   21
Holzman   22
Hellopplz   23
FisherSaints   24
Maca24   25
meow meow   26
Cookie Monster   27
MajorLazer   28
Sid   29
carltonrok   30
My Chumps   31
Purple 77   32
pothead   33
CrowsFan   34
PowerBug   35
roo boys!   36


Anyway, I'll stop now  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on December 11, 2015, 05:01:20 PM
Haha, I've read through the OG draft countless amounts of times :P

For some reason all your posts have vanished in that thread tho Purps.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 11, 2015, 05:18:07 PM
Had  such a late pick.

Good to see alot of the top 10 now dubliners
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on December 11, 2015, 05:21:29 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on December 11, 2015, 05:01:20 PM
Haha, I've read through the OG draft countless amounts of times :P

For some reason all your posts have vanished in that thread tho Purps.

Yeah... to this day, I have no idea why. Some sort of FF glitch? Ah well.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on December 11, 2015, 06:37:43 PM
Hanley mid only for 2016  :o

Does that go against Cairo's plans next year?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on December 11, 2015, 06:38:44 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on December 11, 2015, 06:37:43 PM
Hanley mid only for 2016  :o

Does that go against Cairo's plans next year?
Nup, was expected. We're hopeful that we plays a role this year that sees him D/M in 2017, but we won't hold our breath.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on December 11, 2015, 06:39:51 PM
Harley somehow keeps M/F.. great news for Mexico City. But, Goddard MID only would irritate a little.

Motlop keeps forward status too... lucky for Pacific IMO.

Brayshaw with a handy forward status for Toronto too.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on December 11, 2015, 06:42:28 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on December 11, 2015, 06:39:51 PM
Harley somehow keeps M/F.. great news for Mexico City. But, Goddard MID only would irritate a little.

Motlop keeps forward status too... lucky for Pacific IMO.

Brayshaw with a handy forward status for Toronto too.

Anyone got a link to these player positions please?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on December 11, 2015, 06:43:27 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on December 11, 2015, 06:42:28 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on December 11, 2015, 06:39:51 PM
Harley somehow keeps M/F.. great news for Mexico City. But, Goddard MID only would irritate a little.

Motlop keeps forward status too... lucky for Pacific IMO.

Brayshaw with a handy forward status for Toronto too.

Anyone got a link to these player positions please?
There's a thread in the SC P&T section of the forum.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on December 11, 2015, 06:45:03 PM
Quote from: Nige on December 11, 2015, 06:43:27 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on December 11, 2015, 06:42:28 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on December 11, 2015, 06:39:51 PM
Harley somehow keeps M/F.. great news for Mexico City. But, Goddard MID only would irritate a little.

Motlop keeps forward status too... lucky for Pacific IMO.

Brayshaw with a handy forward status for Toronto too.

Anyone got a link to these player positions please?
There's a thread in the SC P&T section of the forum.

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,105208.msg1695705.html#new
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on December 11, 2015, 06:58:37 PM
Touk Miller Mid/Fwd :D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on December 11, 2015, 07:12:36 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on December 11, 2015, 06:39:51 PM
Harley somehow keeps M/F.. great news for Mexico City. But, Goddard MID only would irritate a little.

Motlop keeps forward status too... lucky for Pacific IMO.

Brayshaw with a handy forward status for Toronto too.
BJ I didn't expect to so all good

Does the second trade period start after the rookie draft? Need to find another gun mid I reckon
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 11, 2015, 07:13:47 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on December 11, 2015, 07:12:36 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on December 11, 2015, 06:39:51 PM
Harley somehow keeps M/F.. great news for Mexico City. But, Goddard MID only would irritate a little.

Motlop keeps forward status too... lucky for Pacific IMO.

Brayshaw with a handy forward status for Toronto too.
BJ I didn't expect to so all good

Does the second trade period start after the rookie draft? Need to find another gun mid I reckon

gee that Bennell pick up looking really good right now. I reckon you stole him as a mid only.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on December 11, 2015, 07:15:32 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on December 11, 2015, 07:12:36 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on December 11, 2015, 06:39:51 PM
Harley somehow keeps M/F.. great news for Mexico City. But, Goddard MID only would irritate a little.

Motlop keeps forward status too... lucky for Pacific IMO.

Brayshaw with a handy forward status for Toronto too.
BJ I didn't expect to so all good

Does the second trade period start after the rookie draft? Need to find another gun mid I reckon

That's a good question...

Last year it opened after the rookie draft, so we'll do the same.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 11, 2015, 07:17:15 PM
I think that Dusty Martin keeps DPP

Martin
Roughead
Jroo
Gunston
Buddy
SJ
M.Kennedy

if you want forwards you know where to come.  I got like 4 of the top 10 and i think 5 of the top 15.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on December 11, 2015, 07:51:09 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 11, 2015, 09:23:37 AM
Saints look good with monty dpp

Doesn't make any difference. Could play Joey in the mids and have Dickson (75) at F4. Now I can play Joey up forward and have Trengove (75) in the mids.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 11, 2015, 07:53:20 PM
Quote from: meow meow on December 11, 2015, 07:51:09 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 11, 2015, 09:23:37 AM
Saints look good with monty dpp

Doesn't make any difference. Could play Joey in the mids and have Dickson (75) at F4. Now I can play Joey up forward and have Trengove (75) in the mids.

Well it does when injyry Strikes.

Its why I got sj to have 5 premo forwards. Now I have 6
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on December 12, 2015, 04:14:23 AM
Quote from: Holz on December 11, 2015, 07:17:15 PM
if you want forwards you know where to come.

Christchurch.

I didn't expect Jack Steele to retain forward DPP but vandenBerg gained it as expected. Alex Neal-Bullen is a good chance, along with Clay Smith and Ryan Lester.

Leigh Montagna
Shaun McKernan
Luke Breust
Jake Stringer
Toby McLean
Tory Dickson
Ben Reid
Jed Anderson
Jack Steele
Aaron vandenBerg
Will Hoskin-Elliott
Jeff Garlett
Kyle Langford
Conor McKenna
Mason Cox
Ryan Lester ?
Clay Smith ?
Alex Neal-Bullen ?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on December 12, 2015, 09:12:35 AM
Just want to re-ignite some discussion about the potential new trade processing method for next year (won't be used for this years 2nd Trade Period)

I reckon I'll send out a vote once the rookie draft finishes.

Ideas discussed were:

- Leave as is.

- Trade Committee composed of neutral outsiders.

- Trade Committee of 5 WXV coaches (one of those would be me) as voted by the coaches

- Trade Committee of 5 WXV coaches (one of those would be me) that I decide

Those would probably be the options I send out at this stage. But I'm willing to hear more options and just have some more discussion about it, so everyone has plenty of time to think about it and be informed before they vote.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on December 12, 2015, 09:30:13 AM
My two cents...

I personally think it is fine as is, but it does attract a lot of complaining.

The same results would be achieved IMO with a committee, but with the potential of less complaining. I also think we could streamline the process with a committee, perhaps (like someone said... I think it was Ric) having a Wednesday deadline in addition to the Sunday deadline. But it would be potentially an ask for the other 4 people on the committee.

If we were to have a committee, I don't mind either way if I choose it or the coaches do.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on December 12, 2015, 10:27:20 AM
My 2 cents worth :

Just enhancing what we have now:
We have a trades review committee of 5. Administrator and 4 nominees,
Coaches vote by Tuesday weekly.
Trades committee to review any trades requiring review on Wednesday.
If 4 or less votes against trade passes
4 - 7 votes trade is reviewed by trades committee. If any of trades committee teams are involved they are excluded from voting. If as a result of this that decision results in tied vote Administrator has a casting vote.
8 votes or more against trade automatically rejected.

Do not think we need the 2 periods just shorten the voting time and if all are aware.  Would suggest though rather than a Sunday deadline we have a Saturday midnight deadline with vote being sent out on Sunday. This should then allow most coaches to meet the Tuesday deadline. 
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on December 12, 2015, 10:39:31 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on December 12, 2015, 09:30:13 AM
The same results would be achieved IMO with a committee, but with the potential of less complaining. I also think we could streamline the process with a committee,
^^

We need to go to Wed and Sun. Other comps you usually wait what 3-4 days for a result on trades. I know if it gets any longer in Asians then ppl start asking about them. In worlds if you put a trade in on Monday you can still wait 7-8 days even with a Tuesday vote deadline.

Needs to go to Wed and Sun
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on December 12, 2015, 11:35:49 AM
Am in 2 minds here Rico and if Purps is happy with sending votes out twice a week then may be ok.  May get rid of what we seen in the trade period with the number of trades being posted Sunday nights.

One thing I would hate to see though is Worlds trading become similar to other XV's. Like to keep the competitions different.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on December 12, 2015, 12:20:37 PM
Quote from: Ringo on December 12, 2015, 11:35:49 AM
One thing I would hate to see though is Worlds trading become similar to other XV's. Like to keep the competitions different.
100% agree man ^
But i reckon we have plenty of other awesome features in worlds that make it such a better comp (salary cap, all the different in season rules,  unlimited trades, 3 different drafts, etc), so this wouldn't matter too much
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 12, 2015, 05:28:35 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 12, 2015, 12:20:37 PM
Quote from: Ringo on December 12, 2015, 11:35:49 AM
One thing I would hate to see though is Worlds trading become similar to other XV's. Like to keep the competitions different.
100% agree man ^
But i reckon we have plenty of other awesome features in worlds that make it such a better comp (salary cap, all the different in season rules,  unlimited trades, 3 different drafts, etc), so this wouldn't matter too much

100% disagree

The voting is the only bad thing with this comp everything else is great. Dont be bad for the sake of being different
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 12, 2015, 05:32:11 PM
Quote from: meow meow on December 12, 2015, 04:14:23 AM
Quote from: Holz on December 11, 2015, 07:17:15 PM
if you want forwards you know where to come.

Christchurch.

I didn't expect Jack Steele to retain forward DPP but vandenBerg gained it as expected. Alex Neal-Bullen is a good chance, along with Clay Smith and Ryan Lester.

Leigh Montagna
Shaun McKernan
Luke Breust
Jake Stringer
Toby McLean
Tory Dickson
Ben Reid
Jed Anderson
Jack Steele
Aaron vandenBerg
Will Hoskin-Elliott
Jeff Garlett
Kyle Langford
Conor McKenna
Mason Cox
Ryan Lester ?
Clay Smith ?
Alex Neal-Bullen ?

Massive depth but no stars.

Stringer yes
Monty yes but old

You should come asking Dublin.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on December 12, 2015, 09:03:33 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 12, 2015, 05:28:35 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 12, 2015, 12:20:37 PM
Quote from: Ringo on December 12, 2015, 11:35:49 AM
One thing I would hate to see though is Worlds trading become similar to other XV's. Like to keep the competitions different.
100% agree man ^
But i reckon we have plenty of other awesome features in worlds that make it such a better comp (salary cap, all the different in season rules,  unlimited trades, 3 different drafts, etc), so this wouldn't matter too much

100% disagree

The voting is the only bad thing with this comp everything else is great. Dont be bad for the sake of being different
Thats... kinda what i was saying...
Its awesome becuase its different but we can look at changing this part of it and it will still be different
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 12, 2015, 09:21:31 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 12, 2015, 09:03:33 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 12, 2015, 05:28:35 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 12, 2015, 12:20:37 PM
Quote from: Ringo on December 12, 2015, 11:35:49 AM
One thing I would hate to see though is Worlds trading become similar to other XV's. Like to keep the competitions different.
100% agree man ^
But i reckon we have plenty of other awesome features in worlds that make it such a better comp (salary cap, all the different in season rules,  unlimited trades, 3 different drafts, etc), so this wouldn't matter too much

100% disagree

The voting is the only bad thing with this comp everything else is great. Dont be bad for the sake of being different
Thats... kinda what i was saying...
Its awesome becuase its different but we can look at changing this part of it and it will still be different

Was disagree with Ringo post Rico.

Not you.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on December 12, 2015, 09:26:32 PM
Do we think it's possible to come up with a system where voting doesn't exist?

Teams can do their own trades without having to satisfy the other teams, just like real AFL,  but perhaps just Admin monitor trades to prevent blatant rorting? I guess trades that admin have serious concerns over could then go a committee or all teams as per the current system

Considering all the discussion we've had about this I'm thinking we look at this option, or just leave it as is. After all we didn't have a huge amount of negs anyway and we're never going to be eliminate the complaining completely
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on December 12, 2015, 09:50:09 PM
In my opinion the real flaw in the system is there is too much pressure on Administrator who has to decide fate of trades when we have 3 - 8 votes against.  This is why I am proposing to take the pressure of Admin by having a trades review committee as outlined in my original post and then only having them review when we have 4 - 7 votes against.

Thinking further on RD proposal will something like this work. 
Trades are posted
Coaches have 48 hours to object to the trade - Trade is automatically confirmed if 3 or less objections received.
If 4 or more coaches object to Admin giving reasons and then Admin or Trade committee will rule on the trade.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on December 13, 2015, 09:51:50 AM
Not sure your initial idea of having the committee vote on Wednesdays will work because we just cant guarantee all 18 coaches could vote by the Tuesday deadline, but your alternative about reversing the system so that coaches don't necessarily need to vote on every trade, only ones they disapprove within 48 hours sounds like it could work

With that being said, I agree with Rico that we need the Sunday and Wednesday close off dates, so if we go down this path I think it becomes a little unrealistic to expect all 18 teams to be able to vote twice a week within 72 hour blocks. If we introduce the two close off days each week, then I think we have to go with the option of a committee, or what Ringo said about all trades essentially auto passing and only then being reviewed (by admin only or a committee) if enough people publicly object within 48 hours
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on December 16, 2015, 10:45:51 AM
Ha, Griffen mid only. People thought I was crazy when I told them I didn't think he'd get defense status :P

Wells being a M/F is yet another win for Mexico City  ::)

Oxley mid only is a kick in the guts for New Delhi

Conca M/F is handy for New York

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on December 16, 2015, 10:47:25 AM
We'll be right ;)
We actually needed more mids and he was only D4
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on December 16, 2015, 10:50:53 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 16, 2015, 10:47:25 AM
We'll be right ;)
We actually needed more mids and he was only D4
I know those feels.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 16, 2015, 10:51:12 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 16, 2015, 10:47:25 AM
We'll be right ;)
We actually needed more mids and he was only D4

hey mid only only, def/mid or even def/ruck

you dont get points for the vfl anyway :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on December 16, 2015, 11:07:54 AM
Quote from: Holz on December 16, 2015, 10:51:12 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 16, 2015, 10:47:25 AM
We'll be right ;)
We actually needed more mids and he was only D4

hey mid only only, def/mid or even def/ruck

you dont get points for the vfl anyway :P
ha flower off.


We got lucky with Rich so can cop Oxley losing it.

Rich, Howe(fwd/def), Wellingham and then one of Kraks, Bugg, Davis will be fine

and Tucker will be D1 in 2016
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 16, 2015, 11:19:33 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 16, 2015, 11:07:54 AM
Quote from: Holz on December 16, 2015, 10:51:12 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 16, 2015, 10:47:25 AM
We'll be right ;)
We actually needed more mids and he was only D4

hey mid only only, def/mid or even def/ruck

you dont get points for the vfl anyway :P
ha flower off.


We got lucky with Rich so can cop Oxley losing it.

Rich, Howe(fwd/def), Wellingham and then one of Kraks, Bugg, Davis will be fine

and Tucker will be D1 in 2016

very nice looking team, huge improvement from where you started. Just shows you just need good coaches for a rebuild
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on December 16, 2015, 11:49:43 AM
We've jagged a few DPP's which is great for us

Rosa, Tippett, Vardy, Conca, Fitzpatrick, A.Walker are the ones I've noticed so far :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on December 16, 2015, 12:07:33 PM
Hutch with F/M a nice surprise. Tommy Cole gets D/M as expected, plus Rupert Wills and Karl Amon are M/F as expected.  8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on December 16, 2015, 12:25:27 PM
So I traded a 26 year old 100 average forward for a 29 year old 90 average midfielder. Beijing and Toronto have to make it up to me in the next trade period in the name of fairness, or the trade voting is a waste of time. Right?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on December 16, 2015, 01:24:42 PM
So Wells somehow gets fwd status too, nice  8)

Anyone need forwards? I need mids

Forwards: Brett Deledio, Harley Bennell, Eddie Betts, Nick Riewoldt, Brent Harvey, Sam Gray,  Daniel Wells, Adam Cooney
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 16, 2015, 01:35:07 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on December 16, 2015, 01:24:42 PM
So Wells somehow gets fwd status too, nice  8)

Anyone need forwards? I need mids

Forwards: Brett Deledio, Harley Bennell, Eddie Betts, Nick Riewoldt, Brent Harvey, Sam Gray,  Daniel Wells, Adam Cooney

are you sure?

you have zero young forwards who will keep DPP. maybe Bennell and gray.

I reckon you need forwards.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on December 16, 2015, 01:44:42 PM
Yeah I'm sure, I could do with some more mids

I'd still take Dusty though
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on December 16, 2015, 02:51:38 PM
Lewis Jetta, pure mid.

WHAT IS THE POINT OF YOU NOW?!

Far out. Now I need another fudging forward...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on December 16, 2015, 02:58:39 PM
Ah, great! Jordan Murdoch is a pure mid too!

Cya forward depth  ::)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on December 16, 2015, 03:05:24 PM
We have plenty of forwards  8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on December 16, 2015, 03:09:24 PM
I have two ruckmen, abbreviated as M. King. Both are RUC/FOR, and both from melbourne  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 16, 2015, 03:10:10 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on December 16, 2015, 02:58:39 PM
Ah, great! Jordan Murdoch is a pure mid too!

Cya forward depth  ::)

I got the reverse

D.Martin, B.Crocker,  J.Hiscox all got unexpected F/M
C. Hanley got Defense which would be great if he ever got a game


very few mid only on my list, 9 actually
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on December 16, 2015, 03:11:42 PM
Ben Crocker's was definitely expected. I picked him in BXVs with that in mind!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 16, 2015, 03:14:48 PM
Quote from: Nige on December 16, 2015, 03:11:42 PM
Ben Crocker's was definitely expected. I picked him in BXVs with that in mind!

must admit didnt research him that much.

so fair call.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Adamant on December 16, 2015, 03:56:13 PM
Tom Keough is listed as a M/F? I thought he was a key defender. :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 16, 2015, 03:57:47 PM
Quote from: Adamant on December 16, 2015, 03:56:13 PM
Tom Keough is listed as a M/F? I thought he was a key defender. :P

he was a key forward that switched to being a key defender

he should be

D only or D/F

no clue what they are doing
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Adamant on December 16, 2015, 04:05:43 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 16, 2015, 03:57:47 PM
Quote from: Adamant on December 16, 2015, 03:56:13 PM
Tom Keough is listed as a M/F? I thought he was a key defender. :P

he was a key forward that switched to being a key defender

he should be

D only or D/F

no clue what they are doing

I need mid/forwards anyway so I'll take it haha.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on December 16, 2015, 04:13:22 PM
Quote from: Adamant on December 16, 2015, 03:56:13 PM
Tom Keough is listed as a M/F? I thought he was a key defender. :P
Yeah, that slightly baffled me.  :o
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on December 16, 2015, 04:21:53 PM

Def: T Langdon (Coll), T Duryea (Haw), C Salem (Melb), N Haynes (GWS), C Sutcliffe (Freo), J Trengove (Port), D Mackay (Adel), C Marchbank (GWS), T Doedee (Adel), J Frost (Coll), J Clarke (Bris), J Ashby (Ess), L Russell (GC)

Mid: P Dangerfield (Geel), D Swallow (GC), L Shiels (Haw), L Whitfield (GWS), J Newnes (StK), J Kelly (GWS), D Myers (Ess), N Freeman (StK), C Oliver (Melb), L Weller (Freo), K Lovell (Haw), M White (Port), P McKenna (GWS), J Snadden (WC)

Ruck: B McEvoy (Haw), J Ceglar (Haw)

Fwd: T Greene (GWS), TJ Lynch (GC), B McGlynn (Syd), T Varcoe (Coll), C McCarthy (GWS), B Matera (GC), T Boyd (WB), C Daniel (WB), B Boekhorst (Carl), E Templeton (StK), J Thomas (Coll)

Seoul is starting to look like a decent team if some of the young guns develop

future forward line TJ Lynch, McCarthy, Boyd  :o
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on December 16, 2015, 05:11:12 PM
OK, so I just went over the positions and we have a nice balance across all line, but plenty of forwards who should get games that's for sure

Defence
Tom McDonald
Josh Gibson
Bachar Houli
Shannon Hurn
Scott D Thompson
Cameron Shenton
Ben Sinclair
Mitch W Brown (FWD)
Mitchell White
Teia Miles
Kurt Heatherley

Midfield
David Mundy
Jordan Lewis
Mitch Duncan
Stephen Hill
Liam Picken
Shaun Grigg
Reece Conca (FWD)
Matt Rosa (DEF)
Alex Sexton (FWD)
Jade Gresham
Harley Balic (FWD)
Brayden Fiorini
Adam Marcon

Rucks
Tom Bellchambers
Jonathan Griffin (FWD)

Forwards
Josh J Kennedy
Kurt Tippett (RUC)
Jarrad Waite
Isaac Heeney
Andrew Walker (DEF)
Jesse White
Nathan Vardy (RUC)
Daniel Menzel
James Stewart
Nathan Hrovat
Kayne Turner
Jack Redpath
Jack Fitzpatrick (DEF)

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on December 20, 2015, 04:44:42 AM
Best Best XV

D: McVeigh (188), Boyd (164), Gilbert (134), Dempster (134)
M: Watson (392), Gibbs (192), Griffen (189), Mitchell (161)
R: Sandilands (172)
F: Montagna (174), Breust (165), Dickson (151), Garlett (144)
I: Minson (154), Hartlett (150)

Total: 2664
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on December 20, 2015, 10:28:15 AM
You forgot captaincy meow... Watson should be 784
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on December 20, 2015, 03:12:45 PM
This will be fun!

Jags Best Best XV:

D: A. Mackie(165), R. Murphy(163), E. Yeo(146), K. Kolodjashnij(136)

M: G. Ablett(254x2=508), P. Cripps(177), B. Vince(167), T. Boak(166)

R: S. Jacobs(164)

F: M. Robinson(166), A. Hall(150), J. Bruce(145), L. Taylor(125)

I: S. Thompson(162), D. Zaharakis(154) 

Total = 2694
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on December 20, 2015, 04:53:06 PM
Ohhhh didn't realise what meow was doing. On it now

Some big big numbers there :o
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on December 20, 2015, 07:20:22 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 20, 2015, 04:53:06 PM
Ohhhh didn't realise what meow was doing. On it now

Some big big numbers there :o
I'm still confused?  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on December 20, 2015, 07:30:56 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on December 20, 2015, 07:20:22 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 20, 2015, 04:53:06 PM
Ohhhh didn't realise what meow was doing. On it now

Some big big numbers there :o
I'm still confused?  :P
i believe (anyone correct me if wrong)

but it seems to be their best XV but counting the top score for 2015 i assume?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on December 20, 2015, 08:20:33 PM
It's each players highest SC score ever
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 21, 2015, 10:48:14 AM
The best best XV

Rance 154 Birchall 152 Yarran 136 Hansen 134
Selwood 176 Sloane 172 Treloar 176 Murphy 187
Goldy 221
Franklin 472 Jroo 217 Roughy 184 Gunston 165
SJ 199 NDS 170

2915 bang.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on December 21, 2015, 10:58:29 AM
Quote from: Holz on December 21, 2015, 10:48:14 AM
The best best XV

Rance 154 Birchall 152 Yarran 136 Hansen 134
Selwood 176 Sloane 172 Treloar 176 Murphy 187
Goldy 221
Franklin 472 Jroo 217 Roughy 184 Gunston 165
SJ 199 NDS 170

2915 bang.

Was a good day... I actually got that score from Franklin  ;)

It was the day of THIRTEEN! THIRTEEEEEEEENNN!!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 21, 2015, 11:02:50 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on December 21, 2015, 10:58:29 AM
Quote from: Holz on December 21, 2015, 10:48:14 AM
The best best XV

Rance 154 Birchall 152 Yarran 136 Hansen 134
Selwood 176 Sloane 172 Treloar 176 Murphy 187
Goldy 221
Franklin 472 Jroo 217 Roughy 184 Gunston 165
SJ 199 NDS 170

2915 bang.

Was a good day... I actually got that score from Franklin  ;)

It was the day of THIRTEEN! THIRTEEEEEEEENNN!!

I remember that day he did nothing in the first quarter and I was having a go at him.

Jroo with 217 and Goldy 221 ain bad either.

Dont think anyone will come close to that score, helps when you have key forwards who can go huge. Didnt know treloar pumped out a 176 thats impressive.

Dmart didnt make the squad despite having lots and lots of 140+ games.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on December 21, 2015, 11:18:00 AM
Jesus Holz, that's ridiculous
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 21, 2015, 11:23:02 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 21, 2015, 11:18:00 AM
Jesus Holz, that's ridiculous

went my boys go big they go real big.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on December 21, 2015, 11:39:36 AM
We'll be a little bit off the pack I think...



DEF: Howe (166), Krakouer (158), Rich (145), Wellingham (128),
MID: KJack (178), Sidebottom (178), Wallis (153), Oxley (148)
UTIL:  Coniglio (129), Scully (129)
RUCK: SMartin (159)
FWD: Cloke (164), Darling (141), JCameron (135), TCurren (128)

Total: 2,417

Oxley as our 4th mid :o And Tom Curren sneaks in at F4
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 21, 2015, 12:15:30 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 21, 2015, 11:39:36 AM
We'll be a little bit off the pack I think...



DEF: Howe (166), Krakouer (158), Rich (145), Wellingham (128),
MID: KJack (178), Sidebottom (178), Wallis (153), Oxley (148)
UTIL:  Coniglio (129), Scully (129)
RUCK: SMartin (159)
FWD: Cloke (164), Darling (141), JCameron (135), TCurren (128)

Total: 2,417

Oxley as our 4th mid :o And Tom Curren sneaks in at F4

if you add your captain in, its not too bad.

what would be funny is the worst XV that is your actualy best 15 worst scores from 2015 (unsubbed)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on December 21, 2015, 05:48:53 PM
wow i see that trade period has started early for holz
already changing your team lineup :P

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 21, 2015, 05:50:17 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on December 21, 2015, 05:48:53 PM
wow i see that trade period has started early for holz
already changing your team lineup :P

I had Kennedy on my list in October :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on December 21, 2015, 05:53:19 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 21, 2015, 05:50:17 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on December 21, 2015, 05:48:53 PM
wow i see that trade period has started early for holz
already changing your team lineup :P

I had Kennedy on my list in October :P
i demand Will Hams back From Berlin for Trade fixing :P

LOL
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on December 21, 2015, 06:24:52 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on December 21, 2015, 05:53:19 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 21, 2015, 05:50:17 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on December 21, 2015, 05:48:53 PM
wow i see that trade period has started early for holz
already changing your team lineup :P

I had Kennedy on my list in October :P
i demand Will Hams back From Berlin for Trade fixing :P

LOL

You cheeky sod Holz :P

Kinda admire the eye of Daz though!

Nothin dodgy I assure you  ;) even have Nige ready to judge my trades  8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on December 21, 2015, 07:22:17 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on December 21, 2015, 06:24:52 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on December 21, 2015, 05:53:19 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 21, 2015, 05:50:17 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on December 21, 2015, 05:48:53 PM
wow i see that trade period has started early for holz
already changing your team lineup :P

I had Kennedy on my list in October :P
i demand Will Hams back From Berlin for Trade fixing :P

LOL

You cheeky sod Holz :P

Kinda admire the eye of Daz though!

Nothin dodgy I assure you  ;) even have Nige ready to judge my trades  8)
thanks i thought it was a god pick up

so that means we can't have hams back then?

LOL
:P :P :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on December 21, 2015, 08:59:45 PM
http://ffchat.wix.com/chat

got a WXV up there now
just went with the default image atm
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on December 21, 2015, 09:11:00 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on December 21, 2015, 08:59:45 PM
http://ffchat.wix.com/chat

got a WXV up there now
just went with the default image atm

Is a good logo!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on January 11, 2016, 01:24:13 PM
I FINALLY got round to updating the rule book :P

If you see something that hasn't been covered, let me know  :)

*I'll get around to updating the team banners
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on January 11, 2016, 05:05:04 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on January 11, 2016, 01:24:13 PM
I FINALLY got round to updating the rule book :P

If you see something that hasn't been covered, let me know  :)

*I'll get around to updating the team banners
as much as i like the credit that Worlds logo was made by Phasir not me

i simply brought it back up ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on January 11, 2016, 06:37:53 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on January 11, 2016, 05:05:04 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on January 11, 2016, 01:24:13 PM
I FINALLY got round to updating the rule book :P

If you see something that hasn't been covered, let me know  :)

*I'll get around to updating the team banners
as much as i like the credit that Worlds logo was made by Phasir not me

i simply brought it back up ;)

Ah! Thanks for that :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on January 12, 2016, 09:35:59 AM
Well if essendon gone for a year that makes things interesting

Saints - Watson
Mexico - goddard Stanton
Berlin - hibberd
Mexico - heppel

My no essendon policy looking good at the moment.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on January 12, 2016, 09:37:50 AM
Quote from: Holz on January 12, 2016, 09:35:59 AM
Well if essendon gone for a year that makes things interesting

Saints - Watson
Mexico - goddard Stanton
Berlin - hibberd
Mexico - heppel

My no essendon policy looking good at the moment.

Goddard isn't out
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on January 12, 2016, 09:39:56 AM
NO! *sobs*

Oh, god why?!

Why didn't ASADA/WADA think of the impact it would have on WXVs?

I'm thinking its bad luck for the teams that have the affected players :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on January 12, 2016, 09:40:52 AM
Quote from: Holz on January 12, 2016, 09:35:59 AM
Well if essendon gone for a year that makes things interesting

Saints - Watson
Mexico - goddard Stanton
Berlin - hibberd
Mexico - heppel

My no essendon policy looking good at the moment.
Moscow I think you meant at the bottom, and I think we lose Hooker too.  :(

Togs you screwed us over in that trade, I demand a retrade.  >:( ::)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on January 12, 2016, 09:43:11 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on January 12, 2016, 09:39:56 AM
NO! *sobs*

Oh, god why?!

Why didn't ASADA/WADA think of the impact it would have on WXVs?

I'm thinking its bad luck for the teams that have the affected players :(
I wouldn't usually say this, but I really think reopening the trading for a period of 1-2 weeks due to this would be allowable. We have directly lost 1/5th of our best XV and that is basically a transition from a Top 4 position to outside the finals.

Of course we could make trades anyway, and sight loss of players as a reason.   :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on January 12, 2016, 09:43:25 AM
I think we only lose Colyer and Hocking, that's not too bad.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on January 12, 2016, 09:47:04 AM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on January 12, 2016, 09:43:11 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on January 12, 2016, 09:39:56 AM
NO! *sobs*

Oh, god why?!

Why didn't ASADA/WADA think of the impact it would have on WXVs?

I'm thinking its bad luck for the teams that have the affected players :(
I wouldn't usually say this, but I really think reopening the trading for a period of 1-2 weeks due to this would be allowable. We have directly lost 1/5th of our best XV and that is basically a transition from a Top 4 position to outside the finals.

Of course we could make trades anyway, and sight loss of players as a reason.  :P

Yeah that would be a totally valid reason I reckon. I think we'll keep this trade period unchanged and still ending at the end of the month.

Essendon might be getting some top up players in, I reckon the affected Worlds Teams should have a minidraft consisting of those players. The order to be determined average of player lost maybe? So Heppell was probably the highest averaging Don, so Moscow would get Pick 1 kinda thing?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on January 12, 2016, 10:15:10 AM
in the euro im doing it the affected clubs get to pick the replacements and the order is by the players value in the postion. this is very very lenient, we all knew this was still ongoing and some teams purposely avoided essendon players for this reason.

got to say as a Dubliner im not too unhappy :) shame about goddard though, in not getting him (was going to chase him this week)  I reckon he will explode as the only star. Probably can go 110
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on January 12, 2016, 10:20:19 AM
So belcho ranks 3rd behind Hep and Jobe right? You know, being a ruck and all ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on January 12, 2016, 10:20:46 AM
Quote from: Holz on January 12, 2016, 10:15:10 AM
shame about goddard though.
Wait, what? You wanted a player suspended?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on January 12, 2016, 10:30:34 AM
Quote from: Nige on January 12, 2016, 10:20:46 AM
Quote from: Holz on January 12, 2016, 10:15:10 AM
shame about goddard though.
Wait, what? You wanted a player suspended?

oops hit send before finished, I hate Essendon but love Goddard. Goddard will kill it now and Mexico wont trade him after losing stants. Im basically looking through who i really like if this does happen.

PNL just had Lobbe turn from a spud back in to a starter.

geez Carlisle to Saints not looking good.

no clue why they didnt miss two weeks and avoid all this
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on January 12, 2016, 10:32:16 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 12, 2016, 10:20:19 AM
So belcho ranks 3rd behind Hep and Jobe right? You know, being a ruck and all ;)

2nd should be Hurley not Watson

in terms of belly not sure you need compo for losing a VFL player.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on January 12, 2016, 10:45:12 AM
Quote from: Holz on January 12, 2016, 10:32:16 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 12, 2016, 10:20:19 AM
So belcho ranks 3rd behind Hep and Jobe right? You know, being a ruck and all ;)

2nd should be Hurley not Watson

in terms of belly not sure you need compo for losing a VFL player.
hahahaha
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on January 12, 2016, 11:07:17 AM
Watson
Heppell
Hurley
Hooker
Stanton
Hibberd
Myers
Pears
Howlett
Bellchambers
Hocking
Coyler
Carlisle
Melksham
Ryder
Monfries
Crameri

Im sure everyone knew but still thought it best to have a list of current players suspended

Well as holz pointed out lobbe should get back to being decent

And at least it doesnt look so stupid for us now trading myers for warnock ( though myers can come back no one bringing robbie back..lol)


Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on January 12, 2016, 11:12:00 AM
Quote from: DazBurg on January 12, 2016, 11:07:17 AM
And at least it doesnt look so stupid for us now trading myers for warnock ( though myers can come back no one bringing robbie back..lol)

yesterday I was starting to regret Watson Boak Bruce Holmes for Jroo Murphy.

This deal looks absolutely terrible

Trade 59
Rio de Janeiro trade: Jobe Watson + Pick 12
Christchurch trade: Picks 2, Pick 26 + Pick 46

basically lost Jacob Hopper

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on January 12, 2016, 11:21:53 AM
Pretty glad I traded out Stanton in the end  :-X

Maybe Ryder's absence might help Dixon out a little?   :-\
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on January 12, 2016, 11:23:35 AM
Sooooo trade week is still open and we hot some players that can fill holes  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on January 12, 2016, 03:29:07 PM
Well, I reckon we will have a draft out of any top up players selected.

But, will there be top up players for Port Adelaide, St Kilda, Western Bulldogs and Melbourne?

If no, then that means there won't be enough players to go around, so only the teams that lost the best players will get first dibs on them.

I reckon, in order of value, I have them roughly at:

Dyson Heppell
Michael Hurley
Paddy Ryder
Cale Hooker
Brent Stanton
Jobe Watson
Michael Hibberd
Ben Howlett
Stewart Crameri
Jake Carlisle
Tom Bellchambers
Travis Colyer
Angus Monfries
Jake Melksham
Heath Hocking
Tayte Pears
David Myers


But, for the meantime, lets see the events that play out in the next few days
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on January 12, 2016, 03:34:33 PM
AFL has confirmed EFC can top-up and promote all its rookies. Melbourne, PA and, St Kilda and Bulldogs can only upgrade rookies with immediate effect.

Well, there you go.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on January 12, 2016, 03:56:34 PM
95ave back > 105ave mid in my opinion  :-X

Doesn't really matter though, both massive losses.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on January 12, 2016, 07:09:44 PM
Come on, Belly is not that low.

His value as a ruck needs to be factored. Behind guys like Howlett? No way
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on January 12, 2016, 07:20:53 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on January 12, 2016, 03:29:07 PM
Well, I reckon we will have a draft out of any top up players selected.

But, will there be top up players for Port Adelaide, St Kilda, Western Bulldogs and Melbourne?

If no, then that means there won't be enough players to go around, so only the teams that lost the best players will get first dibs on them.

I reckon, in order of value, I have them roughly at:

Dyson Heppell
Michael Hurley
Paddy Ryder
Cale Hooker
Brent Stanton
Jobe Watson
Michael Hibberd
Ben Howlett
Stewart Crameri
Jake Carlisle
Tom Bellchambers
Travis Colyer
Angus Monfries
Jake Melksham
Heath Hocking
Tayte Pears
David Myers


But, for the meantime, lets see the events that play out in the next few days
Just on this though. In the case of a team like ourselves, we've got Hocking and Colyer, both of decent importance to us. We'd apparently get no compensation or top up replacement player. As a team that finished low on the ladder last year and struggled for depth, is that a problem?

I guess the counter argument to what I just said is that we got a couple extra players at the end of the rookie draft, not that they're particularly helpful in this scenario considering they're not really starters whereas Colyer and Hocking could be.

Just something to think about and maybe discuss, idk. That's basically just what came to mind reading the quoted post.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on January 12, 2016, 07:42:48 PM
I'm applying for a compensation pick.

Firstly, I deserve one since a grossly unfair trade was passed. Dustin Martin for Shaun Grigg wouldn't pass Zorko for Griffen shouldn't either since the disparity is very similar. In terms of a fair competition this can't be allowed to be put down as bad luck.

Secondly, Dyson Heppell will play again. This ban is likely to end the career of Jobe Watson, who I effectively gave up Jamie Elliott, Nathan Hrovat and pick 26 for.
Shaun McKernan IS worth pick 12 now so I should actually have Stefan Martin on my list but instead I've got someone worthless.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on January 12, 2016, 07:49:45 PM
Quote from: meow meow on January 12, 2016, 07:42:48 PM
I'm applying for a compensation pick.

Firstly, I deserve one since a grossly unfair trade was passed. Dustin Martin for Shaun Grigg wouldn't pass Zorko for Griffen shouldn't either since the disparity is very similar. In terms of a fair competition this can't be allowed to be put down as bad luck.

Secondly, Dyson Heppell will play again. This ban is likely to end the career of Jobe Watson, who I effectively gave up Jamie Elliott, Nathan Hrovat and pick 26 for.
Shaun McKernan IS worth pick 12 now so I should actually have Stefan Martin on my list but instead I've got someone worthless.

wasnt there always a risk of this. I sold watson cheap because everyone kept on saying how this could happen. He was looking on fire in the preseason and would have easily have gone 100+ i reckon he would have gone 105-110.

I actually posted yesterday in chat that i regretted letting him go
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on January 12, 2016, 08:08:21 PM
So it's just bad luck that I've lost the 4th best forward (Zorko), Jamie Elliott, Nathan Hrovat and pick 26 and recieved a 29 year old mid who averages 90? If NDT lost that much they'd surely get another priority pick.

There was always the risk of Bellchambers getting rubbed out but everyone ignored it and all I heard was how McKernanisn't worth pick 12. He's got good JS now and if a 25 year old, 80 average ruck isn't worth pick 12 I don't know what is. That trade should have passed, and I should have Stefan Martin on my books.

If you think Luke Breust, Jack Steele and pick 26 for nothing is good for the comp then I'll shh but that's ccomparable to what I've given up, on top of a trade comparable to Dusty for Grigg.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on January 12, 2016, 08:15:39 PM
Quote from: meow meow on January 12, 2016, 08:08:21 PM
So it's just bad luck that I've lost the 4th best forward (Zorko), Jamie Elliott, Nathan Hrovat and pick 26 and recieved a 29 year old mid who averages 90? If NDT lost that much they'd surely get another priority pick.

There was always the risk of Bellchambers getting rubbed out but everyone ignored it and all I heard was how McKernanisn't worth pick 12. He's got good JS now and if a 25 year old, 80 average ruck isn't worth pick 12 I don't know what is. That trade should have passed, and I should have Stefan Martin on my books.

If you think Luke Breust, Jack Steele and pick 26 for nothing is good for the comp then I'll shh but that's ccomparable to what I've given up, on top of a trade comparable to Dusty for Grigg.

to be fair i thought it was unfair at the time but the rest of the comp didnt.

I also felt that 12 was worth mckernan so you just got really unlucky.

incidently enough though reminds me of the folua for 30 deal, then folou retired the day after.

it just shows that we should have taken the essendon thing more seriously.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on January 12, 2016, 08:21:20 PM
soooo next question if the top up players are players from former WXV teams?

usually when a player comes back in from redraft the original team has a chance to redraft
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on January 12, 2016, 08:23:24 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 12, 2016, 08:15:39 PM
Quote from: meow meow on January 12, 2016, 08:08:21 PM
So it's just bad luck that I've lost the 4th best forward (Zorko), Jamie Elliott, Nathan Hrovat and pick 26 and recieved a 29 year old mid who averages 90? If NDT lost that much they'd surely get another priority pick.

There was always the risk of Bellchambers getting rubbed out but everyone ignored it and all I heard was how McKernanisn't worth pick 12. He's got good JS now and if a 25 year old, 80 average ruck isn't worth pick 12 I don't know what is. That trade should have passed, and I should have Stefan Martin on my books.

If you think Luke Breust, Jack Steele and pick 26 for nothing is good for the comp then I'll shh but that's ccomparable to what I've given up, on top of a trade comparable to Dusty for Grigg.

to be fair i thought it was unfair at the time but the rest of the comp didnt.

I also felt that 12 was worth mckernan so you just got really unlucky.

incidently enough though reminds me of the folua for 30 deal, then folou retired the day after.

it just shows that we should have taken the essendon thing more seriously.

to be fair though MM no one forced you to trade zorko that was your choice

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on January 12, 2016, 08:58:56 PM
Hmm. Valid points.

That list I put up was where I was pretty much looking up averages from last year.

I'm still umming and arring about Hurley v Heppell, I think I went Heppell in the end because Moscow also lose Hooker.

@Nige, that is also a good point you raise about losing those two lesser players. I did notice Colyer did play for you a fair bit last year.

I just want to see how the next few days play out in the AFL before we go and do something, but I'll be striving for a fair mini-draft order.

@meow, yeah you have been on the receiving end of a series of unfortunate trades  :( but ultimately, there is always risk associated with a trade. I mean, you could trade in 3 guys then all of them get an LTI. I personally had my doubts that Griffen would get DEF status myself, I even mentioned that to Adamant when he offered him to me. I also disagree that if it a weaker club that did those trades, then they would get a compensation pick purely because of those trades; it would depend on how they'll do during the season; where you are still strongly positioned in.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on January 12, 2016, 09:02:25 PM
It was also my choice to trade McKernan in a fair trade that would have netted me Stefan Martin. Instead I was forced to keep pick 2, then traded it for Watson (worthless). The fair trade failed while the unfair trade passed. How is that good for equality? I shouldn't be punished because other coaches are wrong, I should be compensated for it.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on January 12, 2016, 09:09:13 PM
Quote from: meow meow on January 12, 2016, 09:02:25 PM
It was also my choice to trade McKernan in a fair trade that would have netted me Stefan Martin. Instead I was forced to keep pick 2, then traded it for Watson (worthless). The fair trade failed while the unfair trade passed. How is that good for equality? I shouldn't be punished because other coaches are wrong, I should be compensated for it.
but no one forced you to trade pick 2 for watson

regardless of the first trade passing or not

(i know you well say if it passed you would not of done the 2nd)

but my point is if you traded and got what you gave for dusty and he tore up you wouldn't complain
or if jobe was not suspended and scored 110 that would be fine too

i mean what happens when we trade for players then they are delisted (ala warnock and hams)
i know that is a different thing entirley but either way
(thought the myers for warnock one both team ended up with no players..lol)

i mean what do you want to happen

all trades after that reversed and you then get martin?

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on January 12, 2016, 09:21:23 PM
No I want a compensation pick for giving up Jamie Elliott and Nathan Hrovat and receiving nothing in return. In the interests of a fair competition and all.

I also want to know why some unfair trades are simply written off as "Oh well, bad luck" when people put so much effort into judging them and trying to keep the competition even.

If I tried to trade Griffen for Zorko now it would fail. If i traded 2 for Watson it would fail. If i traded McKernan for 12 would pass. I didn't vote on these trades so I wasn't in the wrong. I suggest that you guys admit you were wrong, ammend your decisions and compensate me for your errors in judgement. If you want a fair and equitable competition that is.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on January 12, 2016, 09:32:55 PM
Quote from: meow meow on January 12, 2016, 09:02:25 PM
It was also my choice to trade McKernan in a fair trade that would have netted me Stefan Martin. Instead I was forced to keep pick 2, then traded it for Watson (worthless). The fair trade failed while the unfair trade passed. How is that good for equality? I shouldn't be punished because other coaches are wrong, I should be compensated for it.

A fair trade; in your opinion.

But aren't you contradicting yourself by using the same argument in saying McKernan has worth and Watson doesn't?

You would have never pursued Watson if you knew the guilty verdict would happen, so I'm going to say you assumed it wouldn't.

Seeing as you assumed it wouldn't happen, then you can't imply McKernan was always worth this much (i.e. in a team without Bellchambers) when you initially thought there was going to be a non-guilty decision. You can't have it both ways.

Quote from: meow meow on January 12, 2016, 09:21:23 PM
No I want a compensation pick for giving up Jamie Elliott and Nathan Hrovat and receiving nothing in return. In the interests of a fair competition and all.

I also want to know why some unfair trades are simply written off as "Oh well, bad luck" when people put so much effort into judging them and trying to keep the competition even.

If I tried to trade Griffen for Zorko now it would fail. If i traded 2 for Watson it would fail. If i traded McKernan for 12 would pass. I didn't vote on these trades so I wasn't in the wrong. I suggest that you guys admit you were wrong, ammend your decisions and compensate me for your errors in judgement. If you want a fair and equitable competition that is.

You could look at every trade period we have ever had, and some trades look really bad and one sided after a couple months after the trade, when they looked perfectly fair at the time.

You didn't have to trade Pick 2. You didn't have to go after a player that could have got suspended by WADA. You also got Pick 12 out of trading Pick 2, which helped you get Koby Stevens and Jack Trengove, so no, you didn't get nothing.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on January 12, 2016, 10:13:01 PM
NDT demand compensation because we didn't have any Essendon players get suspended and now feel left out
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on January 12, 2016, 10:27:34 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 12, 2016, 10:13:01 PM
NDT demand compensation because we didn't have any Essendon players get suspended and now feel left out
Colyer and Hocking for Sidebottom?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on January 12, 2016, 10:37:54 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 12, 2016, 10:13:01 PM
NDT demand compensation because we didn't have any Essendon players get suspended and now feel left out
and we demand comp for trading you an essendon player for a guy who got delisted but you on traded said essendon player for a player still on a list

the injustice!!

:P :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on January 12, 2016, 11:04:24 PM
We have learnt a lesson here, meow is the best drafter and one of the best at trading in cheap guys who turn into stars.

He should never trade in premos

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on January 12, 2016, 11:17:19 PM
lol meow
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on January 12, 2016, 11:50:00 PM
Does Myers 12 months start from his last game?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on January 12, 2016, 11:57:35 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on January 12, 2016, 11:50:00 PM
Does Myers 12 months start from his last game?

annoyingly it doesnt. same for watson who missed the last 3rd of the season
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jukes on January 13, 2016, 12:14:02 AM
I for one certainly think compensation should be given to teams affected - if we lose Heppell and Hooker that's our season right down the drain. How does that make for a fair competition?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on January 13, 2016, 01:42:48 AM
Quote from: Jukes on January 13, 2016, 12:14:02 AM
I for one certainly think compensation should be given to teams affected - if we lose Heppell and Hooker that's our season right down the drain. How does that make for a fair competition?

so how about when Libba went down injured with an ACL.

in that case you couldn't predict that, but you knew they had impending bans for years.

picking up top up players is very very lucky and actually pretty questionable.

when I tried to trade watson people said he wasnt worth as much as this could happen. the fact it did was a calculated risk that didnt pay off.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on January 13, 2016, 09:11:34 AM
What sort of compensation are you expecting? You're getting a top up player at best, so just like Libba for us last year you just have to cop it

We had no Libba all year, and Duncan missed a massive chunk while Bennell was a mess. Welcome to our 2015
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on January 13, 2016, 10:01:19 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 13, 2016, 09:11:34 AM
We had no Libba all year, and Duncan missed a massive chunk while Bennell was a mess. Welcome to our 2015
That's cute, but please do tell me more about injuries ruining a season. :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on January 13, 2016, 10:57:11 AM
Just throwing ideas out there, what if we copy the scores of the banned 17 from the 2015 season, but they cannot be selected as captain or be able to be loopholed?

Eh. That doesn't feel right as I type it... but thoughts?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on January 13, 2016, 11:03:28 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on January 13, 2016, 10:57:11 AM
Just throwing ideas out there, what if we copy the scores of the banned 17 from the 2015 season, but they cannot be selected as captain or be able to be loopholed?

Eh. That doesn't feel right as I type it... but thoughts?

Im trying to write something to say how opposed I am to this idea. i will be kind.

good to think outside the box and you have come up with some great ideas doing so, this isn't one of them.

I think people knew this could happen and all these players had a asterix on the trade table and this droped their value. Obvisouly not enough as people all felt it wouldnt happen but it did and getting to pick top up players is lenient as it is. I wasnt even sure about that in the Euro.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on January 13, 2016, 11:04:34 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on January 13, 2016, 10:57:11 AM
Just throwing ideas out there, what if we copy the scores of the banned 17 from the 2015 season, but they cannot be selected as captain or be able to be loopholed?

Eh. That doesn't feel right as I type it... but thoughts?
Hate it, sorry mate.

We try and replicate real life in this comp. Essendon won't get Heppell's output for the 2016 season, so neither should a WXV team. Otherwise you start opening cases for players with LTIs like Libba.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on January 13, 2016, 03:31:07 PM
One thing to remember here it is the AFL who are allowing Bombers top players.  As we try to replicate AFL as much as possible should not we try and do something similar for those effected.  Does not worry me at all as i am not effected in the slightest since i traded Stanton and Bellchambers, but just voicing an opinion.

bear in mind also the AFL did not allow Pies to top up for Keeffe and Thomas so it is a different situation here.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on January 13, 2016, 07:05:17 PM
It's not like any top up players are going to replicate hep, jobe etc. Heck the top ups won't even be best XV in most cases.

Just draft them by order of banned players value and cop it on the chin
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on January 13, 2016, 07:24:30 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on January 12, 2016, 11:17:19 PM
lol meow

Glad someone knew I was just stirring the pot.

Holz wants Jobe and will get him unless someone else wants to take the punt on him playing on, refreshed physically and mentally in 2017. Make an offer!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on January 13, 2016, 08:14:06 PM
Quote from: meow meow on January 13, 2016, 07:24:30 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on January 12, 2016, 11:17:19 PM
lol meow

Glad someone knew I was just stirring the pot.

Holz wants Jobe and will get him unless someone else wants to take the punt on him playing on, refreshed physically and mentally in 2017. Make an offer!

Ah god dammit :P I gotta admit, I thought you were serious. Well played.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on January 13, 2016, 08:15:09 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on January 13, 2016, 08:14:06 PM
Quote from: meow meow on January 13, 2016, 07:24:30 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on January 12, 2016, 11:17:19 PM
lol meow

Glad someone knew I was just stirring the pot.

Holz wants Jobe and will get him unless someone else wants to take the punt on him playing on, refreshed physically and mentally in 2017. Make an offer!

Ah god dammit :P I gotta admit, I thought you were serious. Well played.
agree got me too
well done Meow well done ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on January 14, 2016, 10:26:23 AM
As predicted and rightly so Martin is clear. maybe might miss a NAB or two and a suspension.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on January 14, 2016, 02:10:15 PM
Ok, all votes are in for the trade processing vote!

QuoteA) Leave the system as it currently is. If you vote for this option, we might have a look at the trade vote levels i.e. 0-2 votes auto pass, 3-5 votes pass with admin able to reject etc... we might have a vote to change those levels.

B) Have a trade committee of 5, me (the Admin) and 4 others, voted by everyone.

C) Have a trade committee of 5, me (the Admin) and 4 others, selected by me.

D) Have admin decide every trade, with the coaches PMing the admin to express any qualms, which will trigger further discussion of trade.

The results were;

A) 11
B) 0
C) 3
D) 4

So it's staying like it is.

Which brings us to our next vote... deciding how many votes constitutes what (i.e. currently 0-2 auto pass, 3-5 pass without admin intervention, 6-8 fail without admin intervention, 9+ auto fail).

The people have spoken, the decision is final. I'll be sending out the next vote shortly.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on January 14, 2016, 02:20:56 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 14, 2016, 02:18:42 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on January 14, 2016, 02:10:15 PM
Ok, all votes are in for the trade processing vote!

QuoteA) Leave the system as it currently is. If you vote for this option, we might have a look at the trade vote levels i.e. 0-2 votes auto pass, 3-5 votes pass with admin able to reject etc... we might have a vote to change those levels.

B) Have a trade committee of 5, me (the Admin) and 4 others, voted by everyone.

C) Have a trade committee of 5, me (the Admin) and 4 others, selected by me.

D) Have admin decide every trade, with the coaches PMing the admin to express any qualms, which will trigger further discussion of trade.

The results were;

A) 11
B) 0
C) 3
D) 4

So it's staying like it is.

Which brings us to our next vote... deciding how many votes constitutes what (i.e. currently 0-2 auto pass, 3-5 pass without admin intervention, 6-8 fail without admin intervention, 9+ auto fail).

The people have spoken, the decision is final. I'll be sending out the next vote shortly.

thats 7 votes against A. under the system thats 6-8 fail without admin intervention. So is the admin voting against option C or D? :P

Lol :P

I actually voted C fwiw
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on January 14, 2016, 02:21:33 PM
-  7 votes against and the trade fails

- 5-6 votes against and the trade fails, unless the Admin decides to let it pass

- 4 votes against and the trade passes, unless the Admin decides to let it fail

- 0-3 votes against and the trade passes.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on January 14, 2016, 02:23:10 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on January 14, 2016, 02:20:56 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 14, 2016, 02:18:42 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on January 14, 2016, 02:10:15 PM
Ok, all votes are in for the trade processing vote!

QuoteA) Leave the system as it currently is. If you vote for this option, we might have a look at the trade vote levels i.e. 0-2 votes auto pass, 3-5 votes pass with admin able to reject etc... we might have a vote to change those levels.

B) Have a trade committee of 5, me (the Admin) and 4 others, voted by everyone.

C) Have a trade committee of 5, me (the Admin) and 4 others, selected by me.

D) Have admin decide every trade, with the coaches PMing the admin to express any qualms, which will trigger further discussion of trade.

The results were;

A) 11
B) 0
C) 3
D) 4

So it's staying like it is.

Which brings us to our next vote... deciding how many votes constitutes what (i.e. currently 0-2 auto pass, 3-5 pass without admin intervention, 6-8 fail without admin intervention, 9+ auto fail).

The people have spoken, the decision is final. I'll be sending out the next vote shortly.

thats 7 votes against A. under the system thats 6-8 fail without admin intervention. So is the admin voting against option C or D? :P

Lol :P

I actually voted C fwiw

so option C it is :p

would love to see an indifferent option.

I have a feeling it would be far less A votes and still the 7 against.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on January 14, 2016, 02:25:07 PM
@ Holz, it's not completely accurate as to whether they are "against" Option A

Each team could select one option (which didnt mean they are negging the other 3)

They might like A too, but liked C or D more

Cant please everyone, and the majority has spoken so A it is!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on January 14, 2016, 02:25:46 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 14, 2016, 02:21:33 PM
-  7 votes against and the trade fails

- 5-6 votes against and the trade fails, unless the Admin decides to let it pass

- 4 votes against and the trade passes, unless the Admin decides to let it fail

- 0-3 votes against and the trade passes.

if we really are all about a democracy then this should be the rules. we just had 7 people unhappy with the system and that was overruled.

10 votes against and the trade fails

7-9 votes against and the trade fails, unless the Admin decides to let it pass

6-8 votes against and the trade passes, unless the Admin decides to let it fail

0-6 votes against and the trade passes.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on January 14, 2016, 02:45:31 PM
I expect everyone to vote for option A in the latest vote since they apparently don't want the system changed at all.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on January 14, 2016, 03:03:06 PM
can someone who voted A just provide me for a reason as im abit confused.

it cant be because you want a majority of the coaches to get a say as in every trade that has got rejected barring a small handfull the majoirty has voted to pass the trade.

the system is slow and takes weeks

it has caused mass arguments.

other comps use the other systems and have had great experiences with it and far less arguments

the admin himself would like a trade committee.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on January 14, 2016, 03:44:45 PM
I find it fine the way it is
majority who complain are the compulsive traders

Does not matter what system haters gonna hate
Complainers gonna complain
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on January 14, 2016, 03:46:30 PM
And potatoes gonna potate
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on January 14, 2016, 03:48:10 PM
Quote from: GoLions on January 14, 2016, 03:46:30 PM
And potatoes gonna potate
^^
This guy gets it..lol
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on January 14, 2016, 04:02:51 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on January 14, 2016, 03:44:45 PM
I find it fine the way it is
majority who complain are the compulsive traders

Does not matter what system haters gonna hate
Complainers gonna complain

lots of compulsive traders in the other comps who dont complain though.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on January 14, 2016, 04:12:42 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 14, 2016, 03:03:06 PM
can someone who voted A just provide me for a reason as im abit confused.

it cant be because you want a majority of the coaches to get a say as in every trade that has got rejected barring a small handfull the majoirty has voted to pass the trade.

the system is slow and takes weeks

it has caused mass arguments.

other comps use the other systems and have had great experiences with it and far less arguments

the admin himself would like a trade committee.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on January 14, 2016, 04:38:18 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 14, 2016, 04:02:51 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on January 14, 2016, 03:44:45 PM
I find it fine the way it is
majority who complain are the compulsive traders

Does not matter what system haters gonna hate
Complainers gonna complain

lots of compulsive traders in the other comps who dont complain though.
then they should stick to those comps

why do we need to change to be like the other comps
lets just make them all the same hey?

edit: i know the answer here we've said all this before :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on January 14, 2016, 04:53:33 PM
Is there any system where voting on trades could be done at any time and not structured.

Like as soon as a trade drops it can be voted on by whoever is online. Once it gets to a 4-5 (whateva it is) it passes unless Purps wants to reject it.

Messy but could it be done?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on January 14, 2016, 04:54:03 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on January 14, 2016, 04:38:18 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 14, 2016, 04:02:51 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on January 14, 2016, 03:44:45 PM
I find it fine the way it is
majority who complain are the compulsive traders

Does not matter what system haters gonna hate
Complainers gonna complain

lots of compulsive traders in the other comps who dont complain though.
then they should stick to those comps

why do we need to change to be like the other comps
lets just make them all the same hey?

having a system that causes fights and lots and lots of stress on the admin is a problem though. I honestly feel very sorry for Purp and Ossie having to deal with a horrendous trade period every single year. The committee takes alot of stress off him in my opinion (as an admin)

the main reason I voted for A was as an admin myself i know it takes pressure off the admin and given how great a job purp does anytime we can take pressure of his shoulders for such the huge effort he puts in and to increase his enjoyment in the comp the better.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on January 14, 2016, 05:06:26 PM
I appreciate the concern Holz  :) it does get pretty bad on occasion, but really I totally accept the decision that's been made as the preference of the majority of coaches; no matter what option we choose, the same amount of shower will be tossed around anyway.

I thought a committee would have been good purely to speed up the process. What the current system does best though, is get across the thoughts of the coaches better than whatever alternative we come up with, which is a good thing, and that's why I think it got the go ahead.

Only 10 coaches to go already on the latest vote  8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on January 14, 2016, 05:20:53 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 14, 2016, 04:54:03 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on January 14, 2016, 04:38:18 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 14, 2016, 04:02:51 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on January 14, 2016, 03:44:45 PM
I find it fine the way it is
majority who complain are the compulsive traders

Does not matter what system haters gonna hate
Complainers gonna complain

lots of compulsive traders in the other comps who dont complain though.
then they should stick to those comps

why do we need to change to be like the other comps
lets just make them all the same hey?

having a system that causes fights and lots and lots of stress on the admin is a problem though. I honestly feel very sorry for Purp and Ossie having to deal with a horrendous trade period every single year. The committee takes alot of stress off him in my opinion (as an admin)

the main reason I voted for A was as an admin myself i know it takes pressure off the admin and given how great a job purp does anytime we can take pressure of his shoulders for such the huge effort he puts in and to increase his enjoyment in the comp the better.

i do get that but i think we have two options really

1. stay as is
2. purps decides all trades

as the problem with a committee is i think it is unfair that say it is Purps and 4 WXV coaches

why 5 current coaches have a say and not the rest
so then you could still complain at the decision of those 4 (minus purps)
why are those 4 considered to have the right to determine over others
(and even if you say using the option purps picks them himself so too bad that is how it is)

ppl will still complain if and when some are rejected

but the reason i went for A


is to spare purps the stress of voting on them himself and then having to hear them complain in pm to him every week as i'm sure some would happen
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on January 14, 2016, 07:10:34 PM
The other comps don't complain as much because they are no where near as active as  World's. Apples and oranges

Is it a coincidence that the bulk of the complaining here usually involves Holz in one way or another, but no complaining in the comp he runs?

You're just not getting your way here like you can in Euro :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on January 14, 2016, 07:17:49 PM
I vote for a compensation pick.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on January 14, 2016, 07:37:55 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 14, 2016, 07:10:34 PM
The other comps don't complain as much because they are no where near as active as  World's. Apples and oranges

Is it a coincidence that the bulk of the complaining here usually involves Holz in one way or another, but no complaining in the comp he runs?

You're just not getting your way here like you can in Euro :P
Have you seen the british thread lately.  ;) ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on January 14, 2016, 07:50:17 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 14, 2016, 07:10:34 PM
The other comps don't complain as much because they are no where near as active as  World's. Apples and oranges

Is it a coincidence that the bulk of the complaining here usually involves Holz in one way or another, but no complaining in the comp he runs?

You're just not getting your way here like you can in Euro :P

I complain alot but far less then new york
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on January 14, 2016, 08:29:32 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 14, 2016, 07:50:17 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 14, 2016, 07:10:34 PM
The other comps don't complain as much because they are no where near as active as  World's. Apples and oranges

Is it a coincidence that the bulk of the complaining here usually involves Holz in one way or another, but no complaining in the comp he runs?

You're just not getting your way here like you can in Euro :P

I complain alot but far less then new york

Our trades rarely ever get negged, so we don't complain

I am involved in a lot of the discussions in Worlds, but it's not complaining - if anything it's always the opposite
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on January 14, 2016, 08:31:17 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 14, 2016, 08:29:32 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 14, 2016, 07:50:17 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 14, 2016, 07:10:34 PM
The other comps don't complain as much because they are no where near as active as  World's. Apples and oranges

Is it a coincidence that the bulk of the complaining here usually involves Holz in one way or another, but no complaining in the comp he runs?

You're just not getting your way here like you can in Euro :P

I complain alot but far less then new york

Our trades rarely ever get negged, so we don't complain

I am involved in a lot of the discussions in Worlds, but it's not complaining - if anything it's always the opposite
Quit complaining RD and just accept the truth
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on January 14, 2016, 09:16:45 PM
Quote from: meow meow on January 14, 2016, 07:17:49 PM
I vote for a compensation pick.
we want 1 too  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on January 15, 2016, 10:21:02 AM
Quote from: DazBurg on January 14, 2016, 09:16:45 PM
Quote from: meow meow on January 14, 2016, 07:17:49 PM
I vote for a compensation pick.
we want 1 too  ;)

check me one too
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on January 15, 2016, 10:23:57 AM
Any thoughts?
Quote from: Ricochet on January 14, 2016, 04:53:33 PM
Is there any system where voting on trades could be done at any time and not structured.

Like as soon as a trade drops it can be voted on by whoever is online. Once it gets to a 4-5 (whateva it is) it passes unless Purps wants to reject it.

Messy but could it be done?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on January 15, 2016, 10:29:44 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 15, 2016, 10:23:57 AM
Any thoughts?
Quote from: Ricochet on January 14, 2016, 04:53:33 PM
Is there any system where voting on trades could be done at any time and not structured.

Like as soon as a trade drops it can be voted on by whoever is online. Once it gets to a 4-5 (whateva it is) it passes unless Purps wants to reject it.

Messy but could it be done?

it would work as a comitee as the 5 would probably be guys who come on all the time. For example i would have recomended you and you live on here. Doesnt work with 18 coaches, many who arent that active and some who come on and dont look on the worlds board.

i dont think we can do anything to improve the broken system of 18 coaches unfortunately. Probably just have to leave it as it is.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on January 15, 2016, 10:33:00 AM
Quote from: Holz on January 15, 2016, 10:29:44 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 15, 2016, 10:23:57 AM
Any thoughts?
Quote from: Ricochet on January 14, 2016, 04:53:33 PM
Is there any system where voting on trades could be done at any time and not structured.

Like as soon as a trade drops it can be voted on by whoever is online. Once it gets to a 4-5 (whateva it is) it passes unless Purps wants to reject it.

Messy but could it be done?

it would work as a comitee as the 5 would probably be guys who come on all the time. For example i would have recomended you and you live on here. Doesnt work with 18 coaches, many who arent that active and some who come on and dont look on the worlds board.

i dont think we can do anything to improve the broken system of 18 coaches unfortunately. Probably just have to leave it as it is.
Nah you'd only need like 4-6 to be active and vote whenever they feel like it, could be as soon as they see it.

This way we're not waiting till Sunday every week
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on January 15, 2016, 10:34:34 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 15, 2016, 10:33:00 AM
Quote from: Holz on January 15, 2016, 10:29:44 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 15, 2016, 10:23:57 AM
Any thoughts?
Quote from: Ricochet on January 14, 2016, 04:53:33 PM
Is there any system where voting on trades could be done at any time and not structured.

Like as soon as a trade drops it can be voted on by whoever is online. Once it gets to a 4-5 (whateva it is) it passes unless Purps wants to reject it.

Messy but could it be done?

it would work as a comitee as the 5 would probably be guys who come on all the time. For example i would have recomended you and you live on here. Doesnt work with 18 coaches, many who arent that active and some who come on and dont look on the worlds board.

i dont think we can do anything to improve the broken system of 18 coaches unfortunately. Probably just have to leave it as it is.
Nah you'd only need like 4-6 to be active and vote whenever they feel like it, could be as soon as they see it.

This way we're not waiting till Sunday every week

the first 5 could vote yes then others come on after and vote no

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on January 15, 2016, 10:35:26 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 15, 2016, 10:33:00 AM
Quote from: Holz on January 15, 2016, 10:29:44 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 15, 2016, 10:23:57 AM
Any thoughts?
Quote from: Ricochet on January 14, 2016, 04:53:33 PM
Is there any system where voting on trades could be done at any time and not structured.

Like as soon as a trade drops it can be voted on by whoever is online. Once it gets to a 4-5 (whateva it is) it passes unless Purps wants to reject it.

Messy but could it be done?

it would work as a comitee as the 5 would probably be guys who come on all the time. For example i would have recomended you and you live on here. Doesnt work with 18 coaches, many who arent that active and some who come on and dont look on the worlds board.

i dont think we can do anything to improve the broken system of 18 coaches unfortunately. Probably just have to leave it as it is.
Nah you'd only need like 4-6 to be active and vote whenever they feel like it, could be as soon as they see it.

This way we're not waiting till Sunday every week
Actually just realised my mistake. It's 4-6 negs not 4-6 passes.

Still, wonder if it would work
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on January 15, 2016, 10:40:37 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 15, 2016, 10:35:26 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 15, 2016, 10:33:00 AM
Quote from: Holz on January 15, 2016, 10:29:44 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 15, 2016, 10:23:57 AM
Any thoughts?
Quote from: Ricochet on January 14, 2016, 04:53:33 PM
Is there any system where voting on trades could be done at any time and not structured.

Like as soon as a trade drops it can be voted on by whoever is online. Once it gets to a 4-5 (whateva it is) it passes unless Purps wants to reject it.

Messy but could it be done?

it would work as a comitee as the 5 would probably be guys who come on all the time. For example i would have recomended you and you live on here. Doesnt work with 18 coaches, many who arent that active and some who come on and dont look on the worlds board.

i dont think we can do anything to improve the broken system of 18 coaches unfortunately. Probably just have to leave it as it is.
Nah you'd only need like 4-6 to be active and vote whenever they feel like it, could be as soon as they see it.

This way we're not waiting till Sunday every week
Actually just realised my mistake. It's 4-6 negs not 4-6 passes.

Still, wonder if it would work

i think the way it works is if 4-6 negs come in it fails

the system should be


0-6 passes
7-9 passes unless admin says no
10-12 fails unless admin says yes
13-18 fails

thats a true democracy. not 6-7 neg happy people having a majority on the competition.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on January 15, 2016, 10:40:59 AM
How many "inactive" coaches do we have?

Hardly any. Maybe a Wednesday and Sunday voting process could work
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on January 15, 2016, 10:41:57 AM
Quote from: Holz on January 15, 2016, 10:40:37 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 15, 2016, 10:35:26 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 15, 2016, 10:33:00 AM
Quote from: Holz on January 15, 2016, 10:29:44 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 15, 2016, 10:23:57 AM
Any thoughts?
Quote from: Ricochet on January 14, 2016, 04:53:33 PM
Is there any system where voting on trades could be done at any time and not structured.

Like as soon as a trade drops it can be voted on by whoever is online. Once it gets to a 4-5 (whateva it is) it passes unless Purps wants to reject it.

Messy but could it be done?

it would work as a comitee as the 5 would probably be guys who come on all the time. For example i would have recomended you and you live on here. Doesnt work with 18 coaches, many who arent that active and some who come on and dont look on the worlds board.

i dont think we can do anything to improve the broken system of 18 coaches unfortunately. Probably just have to leave it as it is.
Nah you'd only need like 4-6 to be active and vote whenever they feel like it, could be as soon as they see it.

This way we're not waiting till Sunday every week
Actually just realised my mistake. It's 4-6 negs not 4-6 passes.

Still, wonder if it would work

i think the way it works is if 4-6 negs come in it fails

the system should be


0-6 passes
7-9 passes unless admin says no
10-12 fails unless admin says yes
13-18 fails

thats a true democracy. not 6-7 neg happy people having a majority on the competition.
Have you been reading my PMs? Exactly what I put for Option E.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on January 15, 2016, 10:44:57 AM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on January 15, 2016, 10:41:57 AM
Quote from: Holz on January 15, 2016, 10:40:37 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 15, 2016, 10:35:26 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 15, 2016, 10:33:00 AM
Quote from: Holz on January 15, 2016, 10:29:44 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 15, 2016, 10:23:57 AM
Any thoughts?
Quote from: Ricochet on January 14, 2016, 04:53:33 PM
Is there any system where voting on trades could be done at any time and not structured.

Like as soon as a trade drops it can be voted on by whoever is online. Once it gets to a 4-5 (whateva it is) it passes unless Purps wants to reject it.

Messy but could it be done?

it would work as a comitee as the 5 would probably be guys who come on all the time. For example i would have recomended you and you live on here. Doesnt work with 18 coaches, many who arent that active and some who come on and dont look on the worlds board.

i dont think we can do anything to improve the broken system of 18 coaches unfortunately. Probably just have to leave it as it is.
Nah you'd only need like 4-6 to be active and vote whenever they feel like it, could be as soon as they see it.

This way we're not waiting till Sunday every week
Actually just realised my mistake. It's 4-6 negs not 4-6 passes.

Still, wonder if it would work

i think the way it works is if 4-6 negs come in it fails

the system should be


0-6 passes
7-9 passes unless admin says no
10-12 fails unless admin says yes
13-18 fails

thats a true democracy. not 6-7 neg happy people having a majority on the competition.
Have you been reading my PMs? Exactly what I put for Option E.

good to see we think alike. if 11/18 can vote to keep a trading system as 18 coaches voting and did that with a majority. then the voting system itself should be the same.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on January 15, 2016, 11:22:59 AM
2012
130 total
9 failed
121 passed

2013
59 total
7 failed
52 passed

2014
152 total
22 failed
130 passed

2015
106 total
13 failed
93 pass

Total years combined
447 made
51 failed
396 passed

i still do not see the problem here that is a fairly decent amount of passed
if that isn't good enough then there is no point in voting at all

everyone that wants a different system due to trade fails keeps pointing to AFL clubs do not have a say in other clubs trades

but then again AFL clubs don't do nearly 450 trades in 4 seasons combined either

yes other comps do not have our trade vote most have either a commettie or an admin decide but they also have a cap on movements (some do i'm not sure if all do so bare with me here)

point being if your more restricted in your movements your more likely to do less trades meaning a lot less rejected meaning a lot less complaints
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on January 15, 2016, 11:31:41 AM
I don't necessarily want to change to voting process in regards to passing/negging, just want it to be done quicker. NO other comp has to wait 7-10 days to find out the results of trades each week.


Also on those stats Daz, if we were looking into it like that we should look at how many passed/failed when they attracted 2+ votes? Because most trades are so simple or insignificant that they will never attract votes


But that's not my issue, my concern is the time it takes to get an answer on trades :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on January 15, 2016, 11:45:21 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 15, 2016, 11:31:41 AM
I don't necessarily want to change to voting process in regards to passing/negging, just want it to be done quicker. NO other comp has to wait 7-10 days to find out the results of trades each week.


Also on those stats Daz, if we were looking into it like that we should look at how many passed/failed when they attracted 2+ votes? Because most trades are so simple or insignificant that they will never attract votes


But that's not my issue, my concern is the time it takes to get an answer on trades :)
i know your was to the time frame Rico
wasn't directing at anyone individually just as a collective for any that has thoughts the system is wrong even slight doubts

yeah i see what you mean with the vote part but then my point about we should be happy espeically with unlimted movements hence ofc some will be negged is this
if we applied Euro's 10 player movements rule (they have admin pass rights which nothing agianst you here holz i'm just saying with unlimited movements ofc a lot more will get rejected and righly so)

New Delhi would of had trades
2, 3, 7, 19, 12 pass but 10 movements would be reached so trades
17, 22, 49, 53, 54, 60, 61, 64, 67, 71, 75, 79, 86, 97, 104, 105 (also trades 41, 72, 92, but they failed anyways)
auto fail too many movements

now i know that is not our system but my point here is in a restricted movement comp (which i'm not voting for i like a free for all) but there are less amount of trades meaning a lot less complaints about rejections New Delhi got to do 5 trades

with our system they got 21 trades  that all passed and 3 that failed

so
24 trades
3 fails
of the total 13 failed for the entire period
but with a more restricted movement (again using euro's just as an example)

24 trades
5 pass
rest over movement limit

ofc i know no one would then do 24 trades but those 3 rejections came after the initial 5 so now it looks like 5 done 5 passed no rejections no complaints ;)

if your not using movements to control the trading then voting needs to imo

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on January 15, 2016, 11:48:25 AM
Quote from: Holz on January 15, 2016, 11:38:51 AM
2014:

Moscow trade: Callum Sinclair and 4th Round Pick
London trade: Joe Daniher

failed - Sinclair was not worth JoeD

NDT give: N5
Christchurch give: TAdams

failed - adams was not worth pick 5

New York give: Mark Blicavs and Darcy Lang
Cape Town give: Nathan Vardy and Jamie Bennell

-pass

Christchurch trade: pick 92
New York trade: Shaun McKernan

-pass

Mexico City give: Zak Jones
Berlin give: Leigh Montagna

-pass

PNL Trade: #15 + Liam Jones + Tyson Goldsack + Xavier Richards
Dillos Trade: Dane Swan + #58

-pass

Mexico City give: Bryce Gibbs, Aaron Sandilands
Christchurch give: Tom Rockliff, James Sicily

-pass

Irrelevant point IMO. No matter what process it is, there will always be mistakes.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on January 15, 2016, 11:49:29 AM
Quote from: Holz on January 15, 2016, 11:38:51 AM
2014:

Moscow trade: Callum Sinclair and 4th Round Pick
London trade: Joe Daniher

failed - Sinclair was not worth JoeD

NDT give: N5
Christchurch give: TAdams

failed - adams was not worth pick 5

New York give: Mark Blicavs and Darcy Lang
Cape Town give: Nathan Vardy and Jamie Bennell

-pass

Christchurch trade: pick 92
New York trade: Shaun McKernan

-pass

Mexico City give: Zak Jones
Berlin give: Leigh Montagna

-pass

PNL Trade: #15 + Liam Jones + Tyson Goldsack + Xavier Richards
Dillos Trade: Dane Swan + #58

-pass

Mexico City give: Bryce Gibbs, Aaron Sandilands
Christchurch give: Tom Rockliff, James Sicily

-pass
hindsight is a wonderful thing isn't it if you want to use hindsight then

Trade 14
Cape Town trade: Tom Hawkins
New York trade: Andrew Gaff and Pick 8

rejected (your prefer this passes?)

Wellington gives: Alex Rance and Brandon Ellis
Wellington receives: Pick 1 and Adam Schneider

Dublin gives: Picks 1, 56 and 74, Scott D. Thompson and Adam Schneider
Dublin receives: Travis Boak, Brandon Ellis and Alex Rance

Buenos Aires gives: Travis Boak
Buenos Aires receives: Picks 56 & 74, Scott D. Thompson

passed (back then ok with hindsight wellington and Buenos Aires were ripped off)


Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on January 15, 2016, 11:49:47 AM
Purp do you think a dual-weekly voting process or even an unstructured voting process could work??
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on January 15, 2016, 12:10:27 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 15, 2016, 11:49:47 AM
Purp do you think a dual-weekly voting process or even an unstructured voting process could work??

Aw. It would be gosh darn messy. And I wouldn't have the right to penalise those who don't vote in time.

We could always trial it out maybe in the first week or two, and see if it works?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on January 15, 2016, 12:11:15 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on January 15, 2016, 11:45:21 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 15, 2016, 11:31:41 AM
I don't necessarily want to change to voting process in regards to passing/negging, just want it to be done quicker. NO other comp has to wait 7-10 days to find out the results of trades each week.


Also on those stats Daz, if we were looking into it like that we should look at how many passed/failed when they attracted 2+ votes? Because most trades are so simple or insignificant that they will never attract votes


But that's not my issue, my concern is the time it takes to get an answer on trades :)
i know your was to the time frame Rico
wasn't directing at anyone individually just as a collective for any that has thoughts the system is wrong even slight doubts

yeah i see what you mean with the vote part but then my point about we should be happy espeically with unlimted movements hence ofc some will be negged is this
if we applied Euro's 10 player movements rule (they have admin pass rights which nothing agianst you here holz i'm just saying with unlimited movements ofc a lot more will get rejected and righly so)

New Delhi would of had trades
2, 3, 7, 19, 12 pass but 10 movements would be reached so trades
17, 22, 49, 53, 54, 60, 61, 64, 67, 71, 75, 79, 86, 97, 104, 105 (also trades 41, 72, 92, but they failed anyways)
auto fail too many movements

now i know that is not our system but my point here is in a restricted movement comp (which i'm not voting for i like a free for all) but there are less amount of trades meaning a lot less complaints about rejections New Delhi got to do 5 trades

with our system they got 21 trades  that all passed and 3 that failed

so
24 trades
3 fails
of the total 13 failed for the entire period
but with a more restricted movement (again using euro's just as an example)

24 trades
5 pass
rest over movement limit

ofc i know no one would then do 24 trades but those 3 rejections came after the initial 5 so now it looks like 5 done 5 passed no rejections no complaints ;)

if your not using movements to control the trading then voting needs to imo

reason behind my system:

1. admin along with committee means trades can be reviewed within 1-2 days
2. admin along with committee means can negotiate one on one with the coach winning too much to make a deal fair.
3. trade movement means teams have a resemblance of structure, teams changing from one structure to another too quickly has been the cause of basically every struggling team.
4. trade movement also creates a sense of loyalty with no huge turnovers.


Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on January 15, 2016, 12:11:55 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on January 15, 2016, 12:10:27 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 15, 2016, 11:49:47 AM
Purp do you think a dual-weekly voting process or even an unstructured voting process could work??

Aw. It would be gosh darn messy. And I wouldn't have the right to penalise those who don't vote in time.

We could always trial it out maybe in the first week or two, and see if it works?
Yeh that would be cool if we could. I reckon we have enough active coaches to try it anyway
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on January 15, 2016, 12:22:20 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 15, 2016, 12:11:15 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on January 15, 2016, 11:45:21 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 15, 2016, 11:31:41 AM
I don't necessarily want to change to voting process in regards to passing/negging, just want it to be done quicker. NO other comp has to wait 7-10 days to find out the results of trades each week.


Also on those stats Daz, if we were looking into it like that we should look at how many passed/failed when they attracted 2+ votes? Because most trades are so simple or insignificant that they will never attract votes


But that's not my issue, my concern is the time it takes to get an answer on trades :)
i know your was to the time frame Rico
wasn't directing at anyone individually just as a collective for any that has thoughts the system is wrong even slight doubts

yeah i see what you mean with the vote part but then my point about we should be happy espeically with unlimted movements hence ofc some will be negged is this
if we applied Euro's 10 player movements rule (they have admin pass rights which nothing agianst you here holz i'm just saying with unlimited movements ofc a lot more will get rejected and righly so)

New Delhi would of had trades
2, 3, 7, 19, 12 pass but 10 movements would be reached so trades
17, 22, 49, 53, 54, 60, 61, 64, 67, 71, 75, 79, 86, 97, 104, 105 (also trades 41, 72, 92, but they failed anyways)
auto fail too many movements

now i know that is not our system but my point here is in a restricted movement comp (which i'm not voting for i like a free for all) but there are less amount of trades meaning a lot less complaints about rejections New Delhi got to do 5 trades

with our system they got 21 trades  that all passed and 3 that failed

so
24 trades
3 fails
of the total 13 failed for the entire period
but with a more restricted movement (again using euro's just as an example)

24 trades
5 pass
rest over movement limit

ofc i know no one would then do 24 trades but those 3 rejections came after the initial 5 so now it looks like 5 done 5 passed no rejections no complaints ;)

if your not using movements to control the trading then voting needs to imo

reason behind my system:

1. admin along with committee means trades can be reviewed within 1-2 days
2. admin along with committee means can negotiate one on one with the coach winning too much to make a deal fair.
3. trade movement means teams have a resemblance of structure, teams changing from one structure to another too quickly has been the cause of basically every struggling team.
4. trade movement also creates a sense of loyalty with no huge turnovers.

points 3 & 4 i agree with you completely was never having a go at that system just showing how it wuld look n WCv's

i think an average of 111 trades every off season is 1. more  then enough (well not really realistic at all though is it)


but again if you were to use a committee
would it be made up of current WXV coaches?
if so when they pass or reject trades why do they have a say over the rest

(i know because there chosen but my point i'm trying to say)
if the problem is that too many reject and too many pass

isn't that what your post before was about if we cannot trust the coaches already should they be coaching?

(i.e if you think the way some value players is wrong or look at trades is wrong do you doubt there ability to have a team then? )

then when one is rejected will ppl not complain?

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on January 15, 2016, 12:54:49 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on January 15, 2016, 12:22:20 PM

but again if you were to use a committee
would it be made up of current WXV coaches?
if so when they pass or reject trades why do they have a say over the rest

(i know because there chosen but my point i'm trying to say)
if the problem is that too many reject and too many pass

isn't that what your post before was about if we cannot trust the coaches already should they be coaching?

(i.e if you think the way some value players is wrong or look at trades is wrong do you doubt there ability to have a team then? )

then when one is rejected will ppl not complain?

in the euro I actually dont have a formal committee. I have about 5-6 people I trust and most of them are active so i either jump on chat on send a PM if im unsure of a trade I normally get a response. Not everyone is in the euro but everyone I speak too knows DT. I put alot of effort into looking at trades myself, I read reports from a few sources to get an informed decision, analyse the numbers etc..  this is on the 10% of trades i think are quetionable or if anyone PMs me.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on January 15, 2016, 01:47:02 PM
As I have said before no system is perfect and we have to work with whatever system we agree with.

My opinion for the 8 votes against trade auto fails is that taking out the 2 or more coaches involved if vote against then 50% of coaches remaining are against the trade so by democracy should be rejected. Conversely imo if less than 1/3 of coaches reject a trade it should auto pass with admin only ruling on the so called grey area trades  between 33% and 50%,

Regarding twice weekly voting would also like to trial if not too cumbersome. If coaches no there are 2 per week then they will make the effort. As a query Purps how many times during the season did we not have all coaches voting by Wednesday.  So my suggestion for a trial Votes sent each Monday and Thursday with cut off times Wednesday and Sunday. May have to tweak a little to allow renegotiations.

Interestingly when we look at the stats only 11% actually fail so are we putting to much effort into refining a system that has minimal trade fails.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on January 15, 2016, 01:49:07 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 15, 2016, 12:54:49 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on January 15, 2016, 12:22:20 PM

but again if you were to use a committee
would it be made up of current WXV coaches?
if so when they pass or reject trades why do they have a say over the rest

(i know because there chosen but my point i'm trying to say)
if the problem is that too many reject and too many pass

isn't that what your post before was about if we cannot trust the coaches already should they be coaching?

(i.e if you think the way some value players is wrong or look at trades is wrong do you doubt there ability to have a team then? )

then when one is rejected will ppl not complain?

in the euro I actually dont have a formal committee. I have about 5-6 people I trust and most of them are active so i either jump on chat on send a PM if im unsure of a trade I normally get a response. Not everyone is in the euro but everyone I speak too knows DT. I put alot of effort into looking at trades myself, I read reports from a few sources to get an informed decision, analyse the numbers etc..  this is on the 10% of trades i think are questionable or if anyone PMs me.
and that is a great job you do in euro's
but in WXV's if we were to make a committee
what is to stop complaints when they have made a decision?
what makes it different to now
(i see in term of turn around it will be quicker by i'm referring to the overall satisfaction of the outcome in regards to rejection of trades)


(* enjoy the discussion we have going here i'm on my last day off after having the week off and your doing a fantastic job of giving me some good discussion and awesome reading and overall something to pass the time ;) )
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on January 15, 2016, 01:53:02 PM
We have a trade committee in British and still get complaints Daz so i think whatever system you use there will always be complaints.  Basically it is human nature with people being upset at rulings against them.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on January 15, 2016, 01:57:24 PM
Quote from: Ringo on January 15, 2016, 01:53:02 PM
We have a trade committee in British and still get complaints Daz so i think whatever system you use there will always be complaints.  Basically it is human nature with people being upset at rulings against them.
this is what i was getting at
our system is fine not that many rejections tbh
ofc certain trades can look dodgy with hindsight we can agree for either side using hindsight

but changing the way there will still be complaints no matter what
i think it is fine the way it is and good all comps have there own way to make them unique
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on January 15, 2016, 02:07:46 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on January 15, 2016, 01:49:07 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 15, 2016, 12:54:49 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on January 15, 2016, 12:22:20 PM

but again if you were to use a committee
would it be made up of current WXV coaches?
if so when they pass or reject trades why do they have a say over the rest

(i know because there chosen but my point i'm trying to say)
if the problem is that too many reject and too many pass

isn't that what your post before was about if we cannot trust the coaches already should they be coaching?

(i.e if you think the way some value players is wrong or look at trades is wrong do you doubt there ability to have a team then? )

then when one is rejected will ppl not complain?

in the euro I actually dont have a formal committee. I have about 5-6 people I trust and most of them are active so i either jump on chat on send a PM if im unsure of a trade I normally get a response. Not everyone is in the euro but everyone I speak too knows DT. I put alot of effort into looking at trades myself, I read reports from a few sources to get an informed decision, analyse the numbers etc..  this is on the 10% of trades i think are questionable or if anyone PMs me.
and that is a great job you do in euro's
but in WXV's if we were to make a committee
what is to stop complaints when they have made a decision?
what makes it different to now
(i see in term of turn around it will be quicker by i'm referring to the overall satisfaction of the outcome in regards to rejection of trades)


(* enjoy the discussion we have going here i'm on my last day off after having the week off and your doing a fantastic job of giving me some good discussion and awesome reading and overall something to pass the time ;) )

we can negotiate it though. the frustrating thing is 4 people think you won 4 people think you lost now negotiate. I have had quite a few times when i had no clue what i needed to do to get it passed.

in my system if its 2 v 2 then i pass the trade if its say 4 v 1 then i talk to the winning team to negotiate and normally we get it done in a few PMs.

I do get complaints by the way via PM but i discuss it as its not 18 peoples opinion i need to juggle its just a few.

thats the big difference.

I personally actually dont complain if a trade is rejected with say 7 say im winning by too much (ok i do but not much)

i complain when i get the 4 wins 4 loss stuff and then frustrated that i cant fix it.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on January 15, 2016, 02:10:36 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 15, 2016, 02:07:46 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on January 15, 2016, 01:49:07 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 15, 2016, 12:54:49 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on January 15, 2016, 12:22:20 PM

but again if you were to use a committee
would it be made up of current WXV coaches?
if so when they pass or reject trades why do they have a say over the rest

(i know because there chosen but my point i'm trying to say)
if the problem is that too many reject and too many pass

isn't that what your post before was about if we cannot trust the coaches already should they be coaching?

(i.e if you think the way some value players is wrong or look at trades is wrong do you doubt there ability to have a team then? )

then when one is rejected will ppl not complain?

in the euro I actually dont have a formal committee. I have about 5-6 people I trust and most of them are active so i either jump on chat on send a PM if im unsure of a trade I normally get a response. Not everyone is in the euro but everyone I speak too knows DT. I put alot of effort into looking at trades myself, I read reports from a few sources to get an informed decision, analyse the numbers etc..  this is on the 10% of trades i think are questionable or if anyone PMs me.
and that is a great job you do in euro's
but in WXV's if we were to make a committee
what is to stop complaints when they have made a decision?
what makes it different to now
(i see in term of turn around it will be quicker by i'm referring to the overall satisfaction of the outcome in regards to rejection of trades)


(* enjoy the discussion we have going here i'm on my last day off after having the week off and your doing a fantastic job of giving me some good discussion and awesome reading and overall something to pass the time ;) )

we can negotiate it though. the frustrating thing is 4 people think you won 4 people think you lost now negotiate. I have had quite a few times when i had no clue what i needed to do to get it passed.

in my system if its 2 v 2 then i pass the trade if its say 4 v 1 then i talk to the winning team to negotiate and normally we get it done in a few PMs.

I do get complaints by the way via PM but i discuss it as its not 18 peoples opinion i need to juggle its just a few.

thats the big difference.

I personally actually dont complain if a trade is rejected with say 7 say im winning by too much (ok i do but not much)

i complain when i get the 4 wins 4 loss stuff and then frustrated that i cant fix it.
Yeah IMO that stuff should pass if it's fairly even with people saying different sides winning a trade
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on January 15, 2016, 02:13:00 PM
Quote from: GoLions on January 15, 2016, 02:10:36 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 15, 2016, 02:07:46 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on January 15, 2016, 01:49:07 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 15, 2016, 12:54:49 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on January 15, 2016, 12:22:20 PM

but again if you were to use a committee
would it be made up of current WXV coaches?
if so when they pass or reject trades why do they have a say over the rest

(i know because there chosen but my point i'm trying to say)
if the problem is that too many reject and too many pass

isn't that what your post before was about if we cannot trust the coaches already should they be coaching?

(i.e if you think the way some value players is wrong or look at trades is wrong do you doubt there ability to have a team then? )

then when one is rejected will ppl not complain?

in the euro I actually dont have a formal committee. I have about 5-6 people I trust and most of them are active so i either jump on chat on send a PM if im unsure of a trade I normally get a response. Not everyone is in the euro but everyone I speak too knows DT. I put alot of effort into looking at trades myself, I read reports from a few sources to get an informed decision, analyse the numbers etc..  this is on the 10% of trades i think are questionable or if anyone PMs me.
and that is a great job you do in euro's
but in WXV's if we were to make a committee
what is to stop complaints when they have made a decision?
what makes it different to now
(i see in term of turn around it will be quicker by i'm referring to the overall satisfaction of the outcome in regards to rejection of trades)


(* enjoy the discussion we have going here i'm on my last day off after having the week off and your doing a fantastic job of giving me some good discussion and awesome reading and overall something to pass the time ;) )

we can negotiate it though. the frustrating thing is 4 people think you won 4 people think you lost now negotiate. I have had quite a few times when i had no clue what i needed to do to get it passed.

in my system if its 2 v 2 then i pass the trade if its say 4 v 1 then i talk to the winning team to negotiate and normally we get it done in a few PMs.

I do get complaints by the way via PM but i discuss it as its not 18 peoples opinion i need to juggle its just a few.

thats the big difference.

I personally actually dont complain if a trade is rejected with say 7 say im winning by too much (ok i do but not much)

i complain when i get the 4 wins 4 loss stuff and then frustrated that i cant fix it.
Yeah IMO that stuff should pass if it's fairly even with people saying different sides winning a trade
Yeh that's a very fair point
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on January 15, 2016, 02:13:16 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 15, 2016, 02:07:46 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on January 15, 2016, 01:49:07 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 15, 2016, 12:54:49 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on January 15, 2016, 12:22:20 PM

but again if you were to use a committee
would it be made up of current WXV coaches?
if so when they pass or reject trades why do they have a say over the rest

(i know because there chosen but my point i'm trying to say)
if the problem is that too many reject and too many pass

isn't that what your post before was about if we cannot trust the coaches already should they be coaching?

(i.e if you think the way some value players is wrong or look at trades is wrong do you doubt there ability to have a team then? )

then when one is rejected will ppl not complain?

in the euro I actually dont have a formal committee. I have about 5-6 people I trust and most of them are active so i either jump on chat on send a PM if im unsure of a trade I normally get a response. Not everyone is in the euro but everyone I speak too knows DT. I put alot of effort into looking at trades myself, I read reports from a few sources to get an informed decision, analyse the numbers etc..  this is on the 10% of trades i think are questionable or if anyone PMs me.
and that is a great job you do in euro's
but in WXV's if we were to make a committee
what is to stop complaints when they have made a decision?
what makes it different to now
(i see in term of turn around it will be quicker by i'm referring to the overall satisfaction of the outcome in regards to rejection of trades)


(* enjoy the discussion we have going here i'm on my last day off after having the week off and your doing a fantastic job of giving me some good discussion and awesome reading and overall something to pass the time ;) )

we can negotiate it though. the frustrating thing is 4 people think you won 4 people think you lost now negotiate. I have had quite a few times when i had no clue what i needed to do to get it passed.

in my system if its 2 v 2 then i pass the trade if its say 4 v 1 then i talk to the winning team to negotiate and normally we get it done in a few PMs.

I do get complaints by the way via PM but i discuss it as its not 18 peoples opinion i need to juggle its just a few.

thats the big difference.

I personally actually dont complain if a trade is rejected with say 7 say im winning by too much (ok i do but not much)

i complain when i get the 4 wins 4 loss stuff and then frustrated that i cant fix it.
Think you also have to factor in the Dublin factor Holz. Should not come into it though.   And with 18 coaches voting the chances are certain coaches would view trades differently to another coach. We seen that quite a few times when Purple announced result.   
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on January 15, 2016, 02:15:20 PM
can i propose a change to the system.

when you vote you vote either

-1 team A wins
0 even
1 team B wins

so if it gets 5 A votes 4 B votes and 9 neutrals instead of getting 9 rejects and it auto failing it counts as 1 vote A wins by too much and it auto passes.

would prefer -2
-1
0
1
2

but thats probably too involved without a comitee
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on January 15, 2016, 03:03:39 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 15, 2016, 02:15:20 PM
can i propose a change to the system.

when you vote you vote either

-1 team A wins
0 even
1 team B wins

so if it gets 5 A votes 4 B votes and 9 neutrals instead of getting 9 rejects and it auto failing it counts as 1 vote A wins by too much and it auto passes.

would prefer -2
-1
0
1
2

but thats probably too involved without a comitee

Will have to wait until the end of the year if any change is to happen; the decision has been made. But I don't mind this way of looking at it, say -2 is really disagree, -1 is I do disagree etc. Worth remembering!

Quote from: Ringo on January 15, 2016, 01:47:02 PM
As a query Purps how many times during the season did we not have all coaches voting by Wednesday. 

Well, without looking into it, excluding the last month, all votes were easily in by Thursday, and quite a few by Wednesday. The last month we had two votes go into Saturday iirc.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on January 15, 2016, 03:04:08 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 15, 2016, 02:15:20 PM
can i propose a change to the system.

when you vote you vote either

-1 team A wins
0 even
1 team B wins

so if it gets 5 A votes 4 B votes and 9 neutrals instead of getting 9 rejects and it auto failing it counts as 1 vote A wins by too much and it auto passes.

would prefer -2
-1
0
1
2

but thats probably too involved without a comitee

that is actually a simple and really good idea
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on January 15, 2016, 03:32:47 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on January 15, 2016, 03:03:39 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 15, 2016, 02:15:20 PM
can i propose a change to the system.

when you vote you vote either

-1 team A wins
0 even
1 team B wins

so if it gets 5 A votes 4 B votes and 9 neutrals instead of getting 9 rejects and it auto failing it counts as 1 vote A wins by too much and it auto passes.

would prefer -2
-1
0
1
2

but thats probably too involved without a comitee

Will have to wait until the end of the year if any change is to happen; the decision has been made. But I don't mind this way of looking at it, say -2 is really disagree, -1 is I do disagree etc. Worth remembering!

isn't it soo obvious that we should just introduce it.

the negatives is it abit more work for you. however can gurantee would reduce arguments, so actually less work.

the only reason im my mind a person wouldnt want this system is if they are too lazy or dont put enough effort into voting that instead of Yes or Now its A Even or B. If thats the case then really they should be removed from voting.

can we think about introducing it? happy to hear if anybody can find a flaw in the idea to say why, but i cant see any.

as to not stack votes teams shouldn't be able to vote on their own trades. that covers the only flaw.

im talking -1 0 1.

the -2 -1 0 1 2 im happy to wait to go for a vote next offseason.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on January 19, 2016, 11:34:40 AM
All votes are in... (also, just one coach left to go in Rivalry preferences)

There is (kinda) an even spread though. So what I'm in the process of doing now, is I asked the two coaches whom voted a certain option (the least polled), to vote for another option in the hope of having a clearer outcome.

The leading option has 8 votes, but I want at least half the comp to agree on one option.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on January 19, 2016, 12:02:05 PM
If still inclusive have a revote of the Top 2 options,  That is democratic with the bottom 3 falling out.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on January 19, 2016, 12:08:12 PM
Quote from: Ringo on January 19, 2016, 12:02:05 PM
If still inclusive have a revote of the Top 2 options,  That is democratic with the bottom 3 falling out.

Democratic would be the one torp and  i voted for ;)

technically everyone other one is undemocratic.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on January 19, 2016, 01:56:36 PM
Big thanks to Ada for re-doing the banners in the Rulebook thread, looks great  8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on January 19, 2016, 02:07:29 PM
Rival preferences are in.

These were how many times each time was nominated (FIRST = nominated as first preferene, etc)


TEAM      FIRST   SECOND   THIRD   ALL
Beijing Thunder    1   3   3   7
Berlin Brewers   1   0   0   1
Buenos Aires Armadillos    0   1   0   1
Cairo Sands    3   1   1   5
Cape Town Cobras    1   0   0   1
Christchurch Saints    0   1   2   3
Dublin Destroyers    2   0   2   4
London Royals    1   1   0   2
Mexico City Suns    0   1   0   1
Moscow Spetsnaz    1   1   1   3
New Delhi Tigers    1   4   1   6
New York Revolution    0   2   1   3
Pacific Islanders    0   0   2   2
PNL Reindeers    2   0   3   5
Rio de Janeiro Jaguars    1   1   0   2
Seoul Magpies    1   0   1   2
Tokyo Samurai    0   0   0   0
Toronto Wolves    3   0   0   3


Ada hasn't coached a game, yet was named main rival by 3 different teams!

Cairo was also named main rival 3 times, but that makes sense ;) :P

Tokyo officially the team that no one has a problem with, not being nominated once!

Beijing nominated the most. Does their improvement pose a threat I wonder?


I don't quite wanna match up yet, as there are 4 teams where none of their 3 preferences nominated them in return, so I'm gonna PM those teams and give them a chance to choose again if they wish, or let me allocate them a rival.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on January 19, 2016, 02:19:32 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on January 19, 2016, 02:07:29 PM
Cairo was also named main rival 3 times, but that makes sense ;) :P
Cause we have top bantz. Except Nige.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on January 19, 2016, 04:05:38 PM
Quote from: GoLions on January 19, 2016, 02:19:32 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on January 19, 2016, 02:07:29 PM
Cairo was also named main rival 3 times, but that makes sense ;) :P
Cause we have top bantz. Except Nige.

More importantly easy beats :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on January 19, 2016, 04:20:13 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 19, 2016, 04:05:38 PM
Quote from: GoLions on January 19, 2016, 02:19:32 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on January 19, 2016, 02:07:29 PM
Cairo was also named main rival 3 times, but that makes sense ;) :P
Cause we have top bantz. Except Nige.

More importantly easy beats :P
Nah it's definitely the bantz.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on January 19, 2016, 04:37:03 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 19, 2016, 04:05:38 PM
Quote from: GoLions on January 19, 2016, 02:19:32 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on January 19, 2016, 02:07:29 PM
Cairo was also named main rival 3 times, but that makes sense ;) :P
Cause we have top bantz. Except Nige.

More importantly easy beats :P
Feels like a slap in the face.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on January 19, 2016, 05:10:13 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on January 19, 2016, 01:56:36 PM
Big thanks to Ada for re-doing the banners in the Rulebook thread, looks great  8)
why is there 2 beijing's? lol
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on January 19, 2016, 06:39:33 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on January 19, 2016, 05:10:13 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on January 19, 2016, 01:56:36 PM
Big thanks to Ada for re-doing the banners in the Rulebook thread, looks great  8)
why is there 2 beijing's? lol

*ahem*

I don't know what you're talking about....
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on January 19, 2016, 06:47:21 PM
Ryan Crowley first top-up player  :o
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on January 19, 2016, 06:48:31 PM
Kind of seems a bit weird to try and force rivalries. They need to naturally develop
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on January 19, 2016, 06:51:20 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on January 19, 2016, 06:47:21 PM
Ryan Crowley first top-up player  :o
We'll take him back, thank you very much.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on January 19, 2016, 09:39:38 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 19, 2016, 06:48:31 PM
Kind of seems a bit weird to try and force rivalries. They need to naturally develop

Most of them are natural. Have to have every team a rival or every team not have a rival. This is just a way to decide who has a neutral game against whom.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on January 19, 2016, 10:46:58 PM
Think at first Ossie just selected rivals for everybody based on geographical positions. But think now rivalries started between managers which is why we're allowed to change up to suit who we'd like now :).

I reckon PNL have two main rivals and both are around where we are currently as well, so works out :D. I will avenge my Champions League loss next season!!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on January 20, 2016, 12:25:46 PM
We like the African rivalry ... Mainly because we seem to beat Cairo every time :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on January 21, 2016, 10:33:22 AM
Dublin Recruit:

Jacob Weitering: Worlds Pick #8 2015

CARLTON full-back Michael Jamison has not seen a first-year player more physically ready to play AFL football than Jacob Weitering.

"A lot's been said, but he is really impressive," Jamison said.

"We look after the first-year players in terms of loads and things like that, but even off-field his willingness to learn and ask questions and really want to fast-track his development, that's probably been the thing that has stood out for me.

"It's always hard to tell (whether a first-year player will play round one), but he's as ready as any first-year player in terms of his body that I've seen."

(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/Media/Images/382619-tlsnewsportrait.jpg)

The big question is will he play a senior game at Dublin in season 1. The backline is easily our weak point with Murphy and Tmac gone and Nick Dal Santo needing to help out in the mid. so who knows. 
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on January 22, 2016, 12:23:47 PM
I tried to get everyone with a team they nominated, but that in the end was kinda impossible. The match ups here are in order of... strength of rivalry-ness? I guess you could say, as according to each teams preferences. My apologies to the teams I couldn't get a preference too, but that team might become your main rival anyway  :o



Rivals

Beijing v New Delhi

Cairo v Cape Town

Berlin v PNL

Buenos Aires v Toronto

Dublin v Mexico City

Christchurch v Rio de Janeiro

Moscow v Pacific

Seoul v Tokyo

London v New York
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on January 22, 2016, 12:29:21 PM
Ha good luck Toga >:D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on January 22, 2016, 12:49:41 PM
All things considering, I reckon that's a pretty good setup in terms of where the teams sit right now and factoring in geography etc

Nice job Purps, and watch out Ringo!  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on January 22, 2016, 01:04:48 PM
Will miss our rivalry with Dublin but sure to continue when we are scheduled to meet. Dublin is yet to beat London in 4 attempts so if Mexico want to know the secret can give advice.

And where the hell is New York some where squirelled away in that far away part of the world where they think they dominate.  They may dominate the financial scene but do the dominate FF and SC we will enjoy the challenge.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on January 22, 2016, 01:05:25 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on January 22, 2016, 12:23:47 PM
Dublin v Mexico City

In a few years I should be winning by 30+ :P

then again is there any rival to Dublin?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on January 22, 2016, 01:06:36 PM
Quote from: Ringo on January 22, 2016, 01:04:48 PM
Will miss our rivalry with Dublin but sure to continue when we are scheduled to meet. Dublin is yet to beat London in 4 attempts so if Mexico want to know the secret can give advice.


Can I play London early please so i can end this quickly.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on January 22, 2016, 02:24:54 PM
Quote from: Ringo on January 22, 2016, 01:04:48 PM
And where the hell is New York some where squirelled away in that far away part of the world where they think they dominate.  They may dominate the financial scene but do the dominate FF and SC we will enjoy the challenge.

Straight into the banter hey!

Well, New York and London are the powerhouse states of their countries so that makes sense I reckon

And yes, we will dominate the FF and SC scene in this rivalry too!  ;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Adamant on January 22, 2016, 02:28:15 PM
We'll prove we didn't come out of that re-draft second best. :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: BB67th on January 22, 2016, 02:47:46 PM
Hey WXV, a bit of shameless advertising going on here, as we need to find a new admin for the AXV competition.

I have to announce that I intend to step down as AXV administrator. It's been great to run the competition for the last couple of seasons, but unfortunately in the coming year I will not have the time to commit to running the competition on a weekly basis, and making it the best it can be. I do intend to remain as coach of the Manila Folders. Ricochet my assistant admin does a great job, but he too lacks the time to run the competition on his own.

So far we haven't had any members of the current AXV community who have the time to and are willing to take over to run the competition, which is entirely understandable as it is quite an extensive role. So we are now extending to ask the wider FF community if there are any coaches out there interested in taking over the primary administrator position of the competition. It is quite an involved position, but it is great fun, and a way to get even further involved in fantasy football. We still have a couple of months to go before the season proper starts, so there is plenty of time for a new member to come into the position and get settled. I will be more than happy to help out the new coach and show them the ropes, and show them how the weekly running of the competition functions.

So if anyone is interested, please send a short application to myself and Ric as to why you believe you should gain the position of competition admin. As we haven't had any current AXV Coaches wishing to take on the role, we are willing to look at someone who is not a current head coach to take on this role. Its great fun to do, so send me a message if you think you might be interested and want some more details.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on January 22, 2016, 04:00:29 PM
I love when this happens.

Read a report on sam Collins how he is expected to be a shot to play round 1. Quickly jumped on to see who had him and if i could trade for him. then realised it was me :)

thank you pick 63
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on January 22, 2016, 04:02:14 PM
Best of luck BB67th - as a former Admin, I know the work it takes to do these things...


Quote from: Holz on January 22, 2016, 01:06:36 PM
Quote from: Ringo on January 22, 2016, 01:04:48 PM
Will miss our rivalry with Dublin but sure to continue when we are scheduled to meet. Dublin is yet to beat London in 4 attempts so if Mexico want to know the secret can give advice.


Can I play London early please so i can end this quickly.

Well, sorry Purple for the spoiler in fixture, but my draft of the fixture that I gave to Purps had a London/Dublin Round 1 opener....

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on January 22, 2016, 05:02:39 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on January 22, 2016, 04:02:14 PM
Best of luck BB67th - as a former Admin, I know the work it takes to do these things...


Quote from: Holz on January 22, 2016, 01:06:36 PM
Quote from: Ringo on January 22, 2016, 01:04:48 PM
Will miss our rivalry with Dublin but sure to continue when we are scheduled to meet. Dublin is yet to beat London in 4 attempts so if Mexico want to know the secret can give advice.


Can I play London early please so i can end this quickly.

Well, sorry Purple for the spoiler in fixture, but my draft of the fixture that I gave to Purps had a London/Dublin Round 1 opener....

was going to rest coming into it to get the extra bonus.

Playing in London i guess im a shot at losing but really there is no way i should. Saying that I should have won the last two times.

its on London i put down as my rival so cant wait till round 1.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on January 25, 2016, 04:04:54 PM
Sorry for delay with trade voting stuff; went away for the weekend and just got back  8)

Alrighty;

QuoteA) Keep it as it is:
- 0-2 votes is an auto-pass
- 3-5 votes passes the trade with the admin having the power to reject it
- 6-8 votes fails a trade with the admin having the power to pass it
- 9+ votes is an auto-fail.

B) Strict
- 0-2 votes is an auto-pass
- 3-4 votes passes the trade with the admin having the power to reject it
- 5-6 votes fails a trade with the admin having the power to pass it
- 7+ votes is an auto-fail.

C) "Just Right" Porridge (not meaning to imply this is what you should vote for, I just wanted to put in a Goldilocks reference)
- 0-3 votes is an auto-pass
- 4-5 votes passes the trade with the admin having the power to reject it
- 6-7 votes fails a trade with the admin having the power to pass it
- 8+ votes is an auto-fail.

D) Lenient
- 0-4 votes is an auto-pass
- 5-6 votes passes the trade with the admin having the power to reject it
- 7-8 votes fails a trade with the admin having the power to pass it
- 9+ votes is an auto-fail.

E) The option I want has vastly different levels then the ones presented in A, B C and D (but also vote for A, B, C or D in case not many people vote E)(write your custom option if you vote E).

A - 4
B - (two coaches asked to re-vote, as it was unpopular)
C - 9
D - 5
E - (two voted E (actually 3 did, but one co-coach voted before they did) so their backup option was counted instead as it was unpopular)


Which means I'm gonna call it and say OPTION C is the winner.

In addition to this, I've been thinking of ways to speed the process up by deciding on trades privately a little sooner than I normally would.

What does this mean?

This means, for example, if we have 5 coaches left waiting to vote, and a certain trade currently with 0 votes is a good trade IMO, then I will pass that as even if it attracted 5 votes, it will still pass as I decided to let it pass.

Make sense?

With these new levels as well, we will have a few more trades auto-passed and another trade or two auto-rejected, also speeding up the process.

As long as I'm admin, we will have an annual vote to review on trade process and levels, so don't fret if you think this is a long term solution :P

Hopefully we can have a more efficient and... cleaner, trade period this year  8)

Cheers guys :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on January 25, 2016, 04:09:50 PM
7 people wanted more lenient rules then option C which according to option C is enough for it to fail unless admin thinks otherwise :P

A majority of voters just voted to have a minority in power.

A minority of voters voted for the fair majority

its a paradox.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on January 25, 2016, 04:12:52 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 22, 2016, 05:02:39 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on January 22, 2016, 04:02:14 PM
Best of luck BB67th - as a former Admin, I know the work it takes to do these things...


Quote from: Holz on January 22, 2016, 01:06:36 PM
Quote from: Ringo on January 22, 2016, 01:04:48 PM
Will miss our rivalry with Dublin but sure to continue when we are scheduled to meet. Dublin is yet to beat London in 4 attempts so if Mexico want to know the secret can give advice.


Can I play London early please so i can end this quickly.

Well, sorry Purple for the spoiler in fixture, but my draft of the fixture that I gave to Purps had a London/Dublin Round 1 opener....

was going to rest coming into it to get the extra bonus.

Playing in London i guess im a shot at losing but really there is no way i should. Saying that I should have won the last two times.

its on London i put down as my rival so cant wait till round 1.

Joel Selwood might not play round 1.

I can feel it happening already.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on January 25, 2016, 05:03:18 PM
Fixture up tomorrow I reckon as well  :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on January 25, 2016, 07:50:32 PM
0-3 votes is an auto pass. So McKernan for 12 would have passed and I'd have Stefan Martin instead of Jobe Watson.

I'll accept a mid first round compensation pick.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on January 31, 2016, 04:50:14 PM
Roughy gone for 4-5 months and the effect that could have on Gunstons output is a potential double whammy for Dublin
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on January 31, 2016, 04:52:43 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 31, 2016, 04:50:14 PM
Roughy gone for 4-5 months and the effect that could have on Gunstons output is a potential double whammy for Dublin

Should be fighting fit for playoffs.

good thing i have Jroo as my F5.

also schoenemakers should be a lock 22 so have him sitting on the bench aswel.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on February 02, 2016, 01:05:09 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 31, 2016, 04:52:43 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 31, 2016, 04:50:14 PM
Roughy gone for 4-5 months and the effect that could have on Gunstons output is a potential double whammy for Dublin

Should be fighting fit for playoffs.

good thing i have Jroo as my F5.

also schoenemakers should be a lock 22 so have him sitting on the bench aswel.

I can't help but wonder if this is the first of a series of unfortunate events to ensure you lose against London in Round 1 :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on February 02, 2016, 01:09:03 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 02, 2016, 01:05:09 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 31, 2016, 04:52:43 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 31, 2016, 04:50:14 PM
Roughy gone for 4-5 months and the effect that could have on Gunstons output is a potential double whammy for Dublin

Should be fighting fit for playoffs.

good thing i have Jroo as my F5.

also schoenemakers should be a lock 22 so have him sitting on the bench aswel.

I can't help but wonder if this is the first of a series of unfortunate events to ensure you lose against London in Round 1 :P

Selwood might miss round 1 too.

Goldy up against Sauce Jacobs

and coincidentally Sloane probably tagged by Ben Jacobs

my Hawk forwards coming up against an improved Geelong.

dont worry im saved though. Richmond heavy squad against carlton with the rolling lock out. Huzzah for that

Dmart VC, Yarran sitting on the bench with an E.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on February 02, 2016, 08:45:09 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 02, 2016, 01:09:03 PM
and coincidentally Sloane probably tagged by Ben Jacobs

That's right! My boy Benny Jacobs is on a mission: Stop any and all captain options! Except Ablett
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on February 02, 2016, 08:47:32 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on February 02, 2016, 08:45:09 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 02, 2016, 01:09:03 PM
and coincidentally Sloane probably tagged by Ben Jacobs

That's right! My boy Benny Jacobs is on a mission: Stop any and all captain options! Except Ablett
Good luck stopping Stefan :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on February 02, 2016, 09:20:16 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on February 02, 2016, 08:47:32 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on February 02, 2016, 08:45:09 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 02, 2016, 01:09:03 PM
and coincidentally Sloane probably tagged by Ben Jacobs

That's right! My boy Benny Jacobs is on a mission: Stop any and all captain options! Except Ablett
Good luck stopping Stefan :P

Martin more a mid but yes tough to stop.

Jacobs cant stop goldy though, even if they wernt on the same team

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on February 03, 2016, 02:04:00 AM
Quote from: Holz on February 02, 2016, 09:20:16 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on February 02, 2016, 08:47:32 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on February 02, 2016, 08:45:09 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 02, 2016, 01:09:03 PM
and coincidentally Sloane probably tagged by Ben Jacobs

That's right! My boy Benny Jacobs is on a mission: Stop any and all captain options! Except Ablett
Good luck stopping Stefan :P

Martin more a mid but yes tough to stop.

Jacobs cant stop goldy though, even if they wernt on the same team

Rhys Palmer stopped Michael Barlow when they were on the same team.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on February 03, 2016, 06:45:50 PM
When do we have to name our leadership group by?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on February 03, 2016, 07:16:05 PM
Quote from: meow meow on February 03, 2016, 06:45:50 PM
When do we have to name our leadership group by?

Would think that the week leading up to rd1 would be fine.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on February 04, 2016, 10:55:57 AM
Quote from: meow meow on February 03, 2016, 06:45:50 PM
When do we have to name our leadership group by?

^ that would make this:

Quote from: Holz on February 02, 2016, 01:09:03 PM
dont worry im saved though. Richmond heavy squad against carlton with the rolling lock out. Huzzah for that

Dmart VC, Yarran sitting on the bench with an E.

harder

You'd only be able to VC loophole if one is already in your leadership group (or none are available). I think.

Question for Purps....

Hypothetical (an unlikely one I admit)

You only have 1 Captain option available, but he isn't in the best 15 - are you forced to select him?

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on February 04, 2016, 11:39:13 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on February 04, 2016, 10:55:57 AM
Quote from: meow meow on February 03, 2016, 06:45:50 PM
When do we have to name our leadership group by?

^ that would make this:

Quote from: Holz on February 02, 2016, 01:09:03 PM
dont worry im saved though. Richmond heavy squad against carlton with the rolling lock out. Huzzah for that

Dmart VC, Yarran sitting on the bench with an E.

harder

You'd only be able to VC loophole if one is already in your leadership group (or none are available). I think.

Question for Purps....

Hypothetical (an unlikely one I admit)

You only have 1 Captain option available, but he isn't in the best 15 - are you forced to select him?

Dustin Martin would be in my leadership team.

Wouldnt i just have to waste a non playing guy on my leadership squad to use loophole?

So Martin, Goldy. Sloane, Selwood and roughead
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on February 04, 2016, 01:28:16 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 03, 2016, 07:16:05 PM
Quote from: meow meow on February 03, 2016, 06:45:50 PM
When do we have to name our leadership group by?

Would think that the week leading up to rd1 would be fine.

Yup! :)

Quote from: ossie85 on February 04, 2016, 10:55:57 AM
Quote from: meow meow on February 03, 2016, 06:45:50 PM
When do we have to name our leadership group by?

^ that would make this:

Quote from: Holz on February 02, 2016, 01:09:03 PM
dont worry im saved though. Richmond heavy squad against carlton with the rolling lock out. Huzzah for that

Dmart VC, Yarran sitting on the bench with an E.

harder

You'd only be able to VC loophole if one is already in your leadership group (or none are available). I think.

Question for Purps....

Hypothetical (an unlikely one I admit)

You only have 1 Captain option available, but he isn't in the best 15 - are you forced to select him?

Glad you asked! Because this is the type of situation where I may introduce a level of lenience.

Although I will say yes, you are forced to select him, I reckon I'd allow that one person to be a CC with someone outside of the leadership group. I reckon there have been times in AFL (although rare), that the captain is very out of form and if he weren't captain, he'd get dropped.

So choose your options wisely!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on February 07, 2016, 01:23:54 PM
For those that didn't hear, ossie85 has quit his position at Worlds

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,99764.msg1703255.html#msg1703255 (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,99764.msg1703255.html#msg1703255)

I know it, and he certainly knows it that he messed up by applying in the first place. I'd imagine ossie will find it hard to ever get back into a coaching position at Worlds again  :-\ but lets be understanding of why he left, and encourage him to pop his head around here now and then  ;)

As a result, Vinny has been on hunt for a while now for a new co-coach, and he has found a willing one in iZander; coach of a BXVs team and an AXVs team; and my friend IRL that I often talk to on a daily basis during the Uni year about Worlds :P

I will be sending a vote out later today for the Worlds Community approval to accept iZander as a co-coach of Buenos Aires, it's just I thought I mention what is happening now instead of surprising a few with the vote PM.

Vinny has always wanted someone to help him during the season; to ensure team submissions are made and anything else; while he begins a busy year ahead of him. This was always the plan; it just didn't work out with ossie unfortunately. I'd be disappointed if there were any ill feelings towards him, as he has not been at the fault of anything at any stage of the coaching situation at Buenos Aires   :)

iZander applied for this position as well back yonder, so it would be good to have one of those applicants share the load at Buenos Aires :)

Cheers guys, and I will send the vote out later today  8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on February 07, 2016, 01:27:27 PM
Grats and gl;hf Zander.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on February 07, 2016, 01:44:43 PM
Welcome iZander. I look forward to whooping yo ass.

Also, is the vote for my compensation pick going out as well or is it already decided that I'm getting it?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on February 07, 2016, 03:11:35 PM
Welcome Izander, cant wait for your 10 shocking trade offers every week :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: iZander on February 07, 2016, 04:28:52 PM
Quote from: Nige on February 07, 2016, 01:27:27 PM
Grats and gl;hf Zander.

haha thanks mate :P

Quote from: meow meow on February 07, 2016, 01:44:43 PM
Welcome iZander. I look forward to whooping yo ass.

Also, is the vote for my compensation pick going out as well or is it already decided that I'm getting it?

haha, we will see ;P

Quote from: JBs-Hawks on February 07, 2016, 03:11:35 PM
Welcome Izander, cant wait for your 10 shocking trade offers every week :P

Back at uni mate so probably going to trim it down to 5 or so ;)

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: AaronKirk on February 07, 2016, 04:32:52 PM
Welcome iZander and best of luck.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on February 07, 2016, 08:48:52 PM
Quote from: meow meow on February 07, 2016, 01:44:43 PM
Welcome iZander. I look forward to whooping yo ass.

Also, is the vote for my compensation pick going out as well or is it already decided that I'm getting it?

8 votes in, and the coaches are divided about whether to let meow cry a river, or whether we will allow him to stop the flow via a shoulder  :-\

Am hoping everyone can be calm about the matter, and not jump at each other's throats while the rest of the votes are polled  :-[
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: iZander on February 08, 2016, 05:14:45 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on February 07, 2016, 04:32:52 PM
Welcome iZander and best of luck.

Thanks mate :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on February 12, 2016, 04:06:35 PM
16 of 17 coaches have voted, but I'm gonna call it now.

Please welcome iZander as the new co-coach of Buenos Aires!!!

All 16 coaches to vote gave iZander the nod  8)

Good luck mate, Berlin looks forward to beating Vin and yourself :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: iZander on February 12, 2016, 07:39:25 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 12, 2016, 04:06:35 PM
16 of 17 coaches have voted, but I'm gonna call it now.

Please welcome iZander as the new co-coach of Buenos Aires!!!

All 16 coaches to vote gave iZander the nod  8)

Good luck mate, Berlin looks forward to beating Vin and yourself :P

haha awesome thanks guys :P

pffft we know thats not going to happen ;)

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on February 13, 2016, 04:20:53 PM
I'm thinking about bringing WXV Tipping back. Back in 2012, Master Q was in charge of it, and I think it suffered a little from inconsistent management which lead to a dwindling of interest.

Would be entirely optional. It's just if I did bring it back, I would be after at least 8-10 people a week doing it. I was thinking about like having (lame) weekly "prizes", like, in my Round write-ups, say Dazburg got the most tips right in Round 1, for the Round 2 write-ups, I'd say what is Dazburg's MATCH OF THE ROUND, with his tips for the following week advertised. You would obviously have your tipster of the year... any other little incentives people can think of?

A bit of lame casual fun and something else to banter about, and easy enough for me to admin, was just after a gauge of people's interest :)


EDIT: Oh! Could have things like, you have to nominate your "Lock" of the week, and if you get it wrong, you get zero points for the week... or put a curse on some team, and if they lose, you get double points...

And what's that type of tipping, where you have to tip each team at least once throughout the year, and if you get one wrong you lose overall or something?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: iZander on February 13, 2016, 04:39:39 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 13, 2016, 04:20:53 PM
I'm thinking about bringing WXV Tipping back. Back in 2012, Master Q was in charge of it, and I think it suffered a little from inconsistent management which lead to a dwindling of interest.

Would be entirely optional. It's just if I did bring it back, I would be after at least 8-10 people a week doing it. I was thinking about like having (lame) weekly "prizes", like, in my Round write-ups, say Dazburg got the most tips right in Round 1, for the Round 2 write-ups, I'd say what is Dazburg's MATCH OF THE ROUND, with his tips for the following week advertised. You would obviously have your tipster of the year... any other little incentives people can think of?

A bit of lame casual fun and something else to banter about, and easy enough for me to admin, was just after a gauge of people's interest :)


EDIT: Oh! Could have things like, you have to nominate your "Lock" of the week, and if you get it wrong, you get zero points for the week... or put a curse on some team, and if they lose, you get double points...

And what's that type of tipping, where you have to tip each team at least once throughout the year, and if you get one wrong you lose overall or something?

Id be up for that :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: fanTCfool on February 13, 2016, 05:14:44 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 13, 2016, 04:20:53 PM
And what's that type of tipping, where you have to tip each team at least once throughout the year, and if you get one wrong you lose overall or something?

It's some variety of streak tipping, you just tip the games you 'know' who will win, and if you get one wrong the streak resets.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on February 13, 2016, 05:16:40 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on February 13, 2016, 05:14:44 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 13, 2016, 04:20:53 PM
And what's that type of tipping, where you have to tip each team at least once throughout the year, and if you get one wrong you lose overall or something?

It's some variety of streak tipping, you just tip the games you 'know' who will win, and if you get one wrong the streak resets.
I think you're just out if you get it wrong.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on February 13, 2016, 05:59:40 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 13, 2016, 04:20:53 PM
I'm thinking about bringing WXV Tipping back. Back in 2012, Master Q was in charge of it, and I think it suffered a little from inconsistent management which lead to a dwindling of interest.

Would be entirely optional. It's just if I did bring it back, I would be after at least 8-10 people a week doing it. I was thinking about like having (lame) weekly "prizes", like, in my Round write-ups, say Dazburg got the most tips right in Round 1, for the Round 2 write-ups, I'd say what is Dazburg's MATCH OF THE ROUND, with his tips for the following week advertised. You would obviously have your tipster of the year... any other little incentives people can think of?

A bit of lame casual fun and something else to banter about, and easy enough for me to admin, was just after a gauge of people's interest :)


EDIT: Oh! Could have things like, you have to nominate your "Lock" of the week, and if you get it wrong, you get zero points for the week... or put a curse on some team, and if they lose, you get double points...

And what's that type of tipping, where you have to tip each team at least once throughout the year, and if you get one wrong you lose overall or something?
love the idea

that could be because i'm mentioned as a winner that never hurts an idea :D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: iZander on February 13, 2016, 06:05:52 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on February 13, 2016, 05:59:40 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 13, 2016, 04:20:53 PM
I'm thinking about bringing WXV Tipping back. Back in 2012, Master Q was in charge of it, and I think it suffered a little from inconsistent management which lead to a dwindling of interest.

Would be entirely optional. It's just if I did bring it back, I would be after at least 8-10 people a week doing it. I was thinking about like having (lame) weekly "prizes", like, in my Round write-ups, say Dazburg got the most tips right in Round 1, for the Round 2 write-ups, I'd say what is Dazburg's MATCH OF THE ROUND, with his tips for the following week advertised. You would obviously have your tipster of the year... any other little incentives people can think of?

A bit of lame casual fun and something else to banter about, and easy enough for me to admin, was just after a gauge of people's interest :)


EDIT: Oh! Could have things like, you have to nominate your "Lock" of the week, and if you get it wrong, you get zero points for the week... or put a curse on some team, and if they lose, you get double points...

And what's that type of tipping, where you have to tip each team at least once throughout the year, and if you get one wrong you lose overall or something?
love the idea

that could be because i'm mentioned as a winner that never hurts an idea :D

That'll be the last time ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on February 13, 2016, 07:19:03 PM
Quote from: iZander on February 13, 2016, 06:05:52 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on February 13, 2016, 05:59:40 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 13, 2016, 04:20:53 PM
I'm thinking about bringing WXV Tipping back. Back in 2012, Master Q was in charge of it, and I think it suffered a little from inconsistent management which lead to a dwindling of interest.

Would be entirely optional. It's just if I did bring it back, I would be after at least 8-10 people a week doing it. I was thinking about like having (lame) weekly "prizes", like, in my Round write-ups, say Dazburg got the most tips right in Round 1, for the Round 2 write-ups, I'd say what is Dazburg's MATCH OF THE ROUND, with his tips for the following week advertised. You would obviously have your tipster of the year... any other little incentives people can think of?

A bit of lame casual fun and something else to banter about, and easy enough for me to admin, was just after a gauge of people's interest :)


EDIT: Oh! Could have things like, you have to nominate your "Lock" of the week, and if you get it wrong, you get zero points for the week... or put a curse on some team, and if they lose, you get double points...

And what's that type of tipping, where you have to tip each team at least once throughout the year, and if you get one wrong you lose overall or something?
love the idea

that could be because i'm mentioned as a winner that never hurts an idea :D

That'll be the last time ;)
for tipping or did you just join Holz as co-coach of the Dublin team?

cause need i remind you that you actually joined Toronto :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: iZander on February 13, 2016, 07:27:40 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on February 13, 2016, 07:19:03 PM
Quote from: iZander on February 13, 2016, 06:05:52 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on February 13, 2016, 05:59:40 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 13, 2016, 04:20:53 PM
I'm thinking about bringing WXV Tipping back. Back in 2012, Master Q was in charge of it, and I think it suffered a little from inconsistent management which lead to a dwindling of interest.

Would be entirely optional. It's just if I did bring it back, I would be after at least 8-10 people a week doing it. I was thinking about like having (lame) weekly "prizes", like, in my Round write-ups, say Dazburg got the most tips right in Round 1, for the Round 2 write-ups, I'd say what is Dazburg's MATCH OF THE ROUND, with his tips for the following week advertised. You would obviously have your tipster of the year... any other little incentives people can think of?

A bit of lame casual fun and something else to banter about, and easy enough for me to admin, was just after a gauge of people's interest :)


EDIT: Oh! Could have things like, you have to nominate your "Lock" of the week, and if you get it wrong, you get zero points for the week... or put a curse on some team, and if they lose, you get double points...

And what's that type of tipping, where you have to tip each team at least once throughout the year, and if you get one wrong you lose overall or something?
love the idea

that could be because i'm mentioned as a winner that never hurts an idea :D

That'll be the last time ;)
for tipping or did you just join Holz as co-coach of the Dublin team?

cause need i remind you that you actually joined Toronto :P

haha well i was talking about the tipping but watch out for Toronto ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on February 13, 2016, 07:31:34 PM
Quote from: iZander on February 13, 2016, 07:27:40 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on February 13, 2016, 07:19:03 PM
Quote from: iZander on February 13, 2016, 06:05:52 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on February 13, 2016, 05:59:40 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 13, 2016, 04:20:53 PM
I'm thinking about bringing WXV Tipping back. Back in 2012, Master Q was in charge of it, and I think it suffered a little from inconsistent management which lead to a dwindling of interest.

Would be entirely optional. It's just if I did bring it back, I would be after at least 8-10 people a week doing it. I was thinking about like having (lame) weekly "prizes", like, in my Round write-ups, say Dazburg got the most tips right in Round 1, for the Round 2 write-ups, I'd say what is Dazburg's MATCH OF THE ROUND, with his tips for the following week advertised. You would obviously have your tipster of the year... any other little incentives people can think of?

A bit of lame casual fun and something else to banter about, and easy enough for me to admin, was just after a gauge of people's interest :)


EDIT: Oh! Could have things like, you have to nominate your "Lock" of the week, and if you get it wrong, you get zero points for the week... or put a curse on some team, and if they lose, you get double points...

And what's that type of tipping, where you have to tip each team at least once throughout the year, and if you get one wrong you lose overall or something?
love the idea

that could be because i'm mentioned as a winner that never hurts an idea :D

That'll be the last time ;)
for tipping or did you just join Holz as co-coach of the Dublin team?

cause need i remind you that you actually joined Toronto :P

haha well i was talking about the tipping but watch out for Toronto ;)

You dont even know what team you joined?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: iZander on February 13, 2016, 07:32:40 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on February 13, 2016, 07:31:34 PM
Quote from: iZander on February 13, 2016, 07:27:40 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on February 13, 2016, 07:19:03 PM
Quote from: iZander on February 13, 2016, 06:05:52 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on February 13, 2016, 05:59:40 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 13, 2016, 04:20:53 PM
I'm thinking about bringing WXV Tipping back. Back in 2012, Master Q was in charge of it, and I think it suffered a little from inconsistent management which lead to a dwindling of interest.

Would be entirely optional. It's just if I did bring it back, I would be after at least 8-10 people a week doing it. I was thinking about like having (lame) weekly "prizes", like, in my Round write-ups, say Dazburg got the most tips right in Round 1, for the Round 2 write-ups, I'd say what is Dazburg's MATCH OF THE ROUND, with his tips for the following week advertised. You would obviously have your tipster of the year... any other little incentives people can think of?

A bit of lame casual fun and something else to banter about, and easy enough for me to admin, was just after a gauge of people's interest :)


EDIT: Oh! Could have things like, you have to nominate your "Lock" of the week, and if you get it wrong, you get zero points for the week... or put a curse on some team, and if they lose, you get double points...

And what's that type of tipping, where you have to tip each team at least once throughout the year, and if you get one wrong you lose overall or something?
love the idea

that could be because i'm mentioned as a winner that never hurts an idea :D

That'll be the last time ;)
for tipping or did you just join Holz as co-coach of the Dublin team?

cause need i remind you that you actually joined Toronto :P

haha well i was talking about the tipping but watch out for Toronto ;)

You dont even know what team you joined?

haha na i followed the redraft :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on February 13, 2016, 07:36:37 PM
Quote from: iZander on February 13, 2016, 07:32:40 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on February 13, 2016, 07:31:34 PM
Quote from: iZander on February 13, 2016, 07:27:40 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on February 13, 2016, 07:19:03 PM
Quote from: iZander on February 13, 2016, 06:05:52 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on February 13, 2016, 05:59:40 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 13, 2016, 04:20:53 PM
I'm thinking about bringing WXV Tipping back. Back in 2012, Master Q was in charge of it, and I think it suffered a little from inconsistent management which lead to a dwindling of interest.

Would be entirely optional. It's just if I did bring it back, I would be after at least 8-10 people a week doing it. I was thinking about like having (lame) weekly "prizes", like, in my Round write-ups, say Dazburg got the most tips right in Round 1, for the Round 2 write-ups, I'd say what is Dazburg's MATCH OF THE ROUND, with his tips for the following week advertised. You would obviously have your tipster of the year... any other little incentives people can think of?

A bit of lame casual fun and something else to banter about, and easy enough for me to admin, was just after a gauge of people's interest :)


EDIT: Oh! Could have things like, you have to nominate your "Lock" of the week, and if you get it wrong, you get zero points for the week... or put a curse on some team, and if they lose, you get double points...

And what's that type of tipping, where you have to tip each team at least once throughout the year, and if you get one wrong you lose overall or something?
love the idea

that could be because i'm mentioned as a winner that never hurts an idea :D

That'll be the last time ;)
for tipping or did you just join Holz as co-coach of the Dublin team?

cause need i remind you that you actually joined Toronto :P

haha well i was talking about the tipping but watch out for Toronto ;)

You dont even know what team you joined?

haha na i followed the redraft :P

Then you should know that Adamant is sole coach of Toronto
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: iZander on February 13, 2016, 07:37:38 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on February 13, 2016, 07:36:37 PM
Quote from: iZander on February 13, 2016, 07:32:40 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on February 13, 2016, 07:31:34 PM
Quote from: iZander on February 13, 2016, 07:27:40 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on February 13, 2016, 07:19:03 PM
Quote from: iZander on February 13, 2016, 06:05:52 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on February 13, 2016, 05:59:40 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 13, 2016, 04:20:53 PM
I'm thinking about bringing WXV Tipping back. Back in 2012, Master Q was in charge of it, and I think it suffered a little from inconsistent management which lead to a dwindling of interest.

Would be entirely optional. It's just if I did bring it back, I would be after at least 8-10 people a week doing it. I was thinking about like having (lame) weekly "prizes", like, in my Round write-ups, say Dazburg got the most tips right in Round 1, for the Round 2 write-ups, I'd say what is Dazburg's MATCH OF THE ROUND, with his tips for the following week advertised. You would obviously have your tipster of the year... any other little incentives people can think of?

A bit of lame casual fun and something else to banter about, and easy enough for me to admin, was just after a gauge of people's interest :)


EDIT: Oh! Could have things like, you have to nominate your "Lock" of the week, and if you get it wrong, you get zero points for the week... or put a curse on some team, and if they lose, you get double points...

And what's that type of tipping, where you have to tip each team at least once throughout the year, and if you get one wrong you lose overall or something?
love the idea

that could be because i'm mentioned as a winner that never hurts an idea :D

That'll be the last time ;)
for tipping or did you just join Holz as co-coach of the Dublin team?

cause need i remind you that you actually joined Toronto :P

haha well i was talking about the tipping but watch out for Toronto ;)

You dont even know what team you joined?

haha na i followed the redraft :P

Then you should know that Adamant is sole coach of Toronto

Lel, na don't know the name haha i know the players though :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on February 13, 2016, 09:00:53 PM
Can i stick a lock on dublin for every round?

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on February 13, 2016, 10:09:47 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on February 13, 2016, 07:36:37 PM
Quote from: iZander on February 13, 2016, 07:32:40 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on February 13, 2016, 07:31:34 PM
Quote from: iZander on February 13, 2016, 07:27:40 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on February 13, 2016, 07:19:03 PM
Quote from: iZander on February 13, 2016, 06:05:52 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on February 13, 2016, 05:59:40 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 13, 2016, 04:20:53 PM
I'm thinking about bringing WXV Tipping back. Back in 2012, Master Q was in charge of it, and I think it suffered a little from inconsistent management which lead to a dwindling of interest.

Would be entirely optional. It's just if I did bring it back, I would be after at least 8-10 people a week doing it. I was thinking about like having (lame) weekly "prizes", like, in my Round write-ups, say Dazburg got the most tips right in Round 1, for the Round 2 write-ups, I'd say what is Dazburg's MATCH OF THE ROUND, with his tips for the following week advertised. You would obviously have your tipster of the year... any other little incentives people can think of?

A bit of lame casual fun and something else to banter about, and easy enough for me to admin, was just after a gauge of people's interest :)


EDIT: Oh! Could have things like, you have to nominate your "Lock" of the week, and if you get it wrong, you get zero points for the week... or put a curse on some team, and if they lose, you get double points...

And what's that type of tipping, where you have to tip each team at least once throughout the year, and if you get one wrong you lose overall or something?
love the idea

that could be because i'm mentioned as a winner that never hurts an idea :D

That'll be the last time ;)
for tipping or did you just join Holz as co-coach of the Dublin team?

cause need i remind you that you actually joined Toronto :P

haha well i was talking about the tipping but watch out for Toronto ;)

You dont even know what team you joined?

haha na i followed the redraft :P

Then you should know that Adamant is sole coach of Toronto
well played sir
well played
the Dillos are his team so i was wrong as well....lol

no need to know the right name either way it is a Win for us :P :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on February 17, 2016, 11:47:26 AM
Quote from: Holz on February 02, 2016, 01:09:03 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 02, 2016, 01:05:09 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 31, 2016, 04:52:43 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 31, 2016, 04:50:14 PM
Roughy gone for 4-5 months and the effect that could have on Gunstons output is a potential double whammy for Dublin

Should be fighting fit for playoffs.

good thing i have Jroo as my F5.

also schoenemakers should be a lock 22 so have him sitting on the bench aswel.

I can't help but wonder if this is the first of a series of unfortunate events to ensure you lose against London in Round 1 :P

Selwood might miss round 1 too.

Goldy up against Sauce Jacobs

and coincidentally Sloane probably tagged by Ben Jacobs

my Hawk forwards coming up against an improved Geelong.

dont worry im saved though. Richmond heavy squad against carlton with the rolling lock out. Huzzah for that

Dmart VC, Yarran sitting on the bench with an E.

Now Yarran is out until at least Round 6  :-X
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on February 17, 2016, 01:37:51 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 17, 2016, 11:47:26 AM
Quote from: Holz on February 02, 2016, 01:09:03 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 02, 2016, 01:05:09 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 31, 2016, 04:52:43 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 31, 2016, 04:50:14 PM
Roughy gone for 4-5 months and the effect that could have on Gunstons output is a potential double whammy for Dublin

Should be fighting fit for playoffs.

good thing i have Jroo as my F5.

also schoenemakers should be a lock 22 so have him sitting on the bench aswel.

I can't help but wonder if this is the first of a series of unfortunate events to ensure you lose against London in Round 1 :P

Selwood might miss round 1 too.

Goldy up against Sauce Jacobs

and coincidentally Sloane probably tagged by Ben Jacobs

my Hawk forwards coming up against an improved Geelong.

dont worry im saved though. Richmond heavy squad against carlton with the rolling lock out. Huzzah for that

Dmart VC, Yarran sitting on the bench with an E.

Now Yarran is out until at least Round 6  :-X

stuff this

already Yarran Roughy gone and selwood in doubt and its mid feb.

still I have Grundy to cover Yarran who averaged 77 (which is more then yarran)

Jetta is flying so just depends where his role is.

as long as im fit for finals though i dont mind.

this is why i extended my window.

no clue how my young dublin players are going down and the old men at mexico magically stay healthy.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on February 17, 2016, 01:53:54 PM
I now have made my best 15 and my health 18

this is my healthy 18

HEALTHY 18

Backs:  A.Rance, G.Birchall, L.Hansen, H.Grundy
Mids: J.Selwood, R.Sloane, A.Treloar, M.Murphy
Ruck: T.Goldstein
Fwds: D.Martin, L.Franklin,J.Gunston, J.Riewoldt
Interchange: N. Dal Santo , L.Jetta

Emg: R.Schoenmakers, M.Kennedy, J.Weitering
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on February 27, 2016, 08:50:10 PM
Also, FYI, I'm quietly doing a pre-season comp, the same as what I did last year by adding up the best 15 scorers from each team each round. No participation required; this is just for curiosities sake and the lolz.

Essendon are the only team not to have played yet, so just waiting on them to complete Round 1  8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on February 27, 2016, 08:55:15 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 27, 2016, 08:50:10 PM
Also, FYI, I'm quietly doing a pre-season comp, the same as what I did last year by adding up the best 15 scorers from each team each round. No participation required; this is just for curiosities sake and the lolz.

Essendon are the only team not to have played yet, so just waiting on them to complete Round 1  8)

In before cairo or ndt win and declare themselves cup channces
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on February 27, 2016, 08:56:58 PM
We've always been cup chances! ;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on February 28, 2016, 05:22:24 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 27, 2016, 08:55:15 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 27, 2016, 08:50:10 PM
Also, FYI, I'm quietly doing a pre-season comp, the same as what I did last year by adding up the best 15 scorers from each team each round. No participation required; this is just for curiosities sake and the lolz.

Essendon are the only team not to have played yet, so just waiting on them to complete Round 1  8)

In before cairo or ndt win and declare themselves cup channces
I've been calling NDT cup chances since last year ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on February 28, 2016, 06:38:53 PM
Matt Crouch >> Brad Crouch
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on February 28, 2016, 06:44:44 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on February 28, 2016, 06:38:53 PM
Matt Crouch >> Brad Crouch

#ShotsFired

Please, Brad will walk all over his younger brother. That's what Matt's are for  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on February 28, 2016, 07:00:10 PM
Weits pulls a 99

A got an early feeling we will look back at this draft and say wow how did he slip.

I love kennedy but i think weits is better
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on February 28, 2016, 07:03:48 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 28, 2016, 06:44:44 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on February 28, 2016, 06:38:53 PM
Matt Crouch >> Brad Crouch

#ShotsFired

Please, Brad will walk all over his younger brother. That's what Matt's are for  ;)
Haha woah lets be serious for a second tho....

Matt has scored more SC points than Brad in the last 2 years

#gun
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on February 29, 2016, 11:26:11 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 28, 2016, 06:44:44 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on February 28, 2016, 06:38:53 PM
Matt Crouch >> Brad Crouch

#ShotsFired

Please, Brad will walk all over his younger brother. That's what Matt's are for  ;)

Brad's foot is cooked, I doubt he'll be walking anyway especially not over his fantasy monster brother ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on February 29, 2016, 11:35:58 AM
Quote from: elephants on February 29, 2016, 11:26:11 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 28, 2016, 06:44:44 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on February 28, 2016, 06:38:53 PM
Matt Crouch >> Brad Crouch

#ShotsFired

Please, Brad will walk all over his younger brother. That's what Matt's are for  ;)

Brad's foot is cooked, I doubt he'll be walking anyway especially not over his fantasy monster brother ;)
Monster Crouch > lil B!tch Crouch
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on February 29, 2016, 11:39:50 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on February 29, 2016, 11:35:58 AM
Quote from: elephants on February 29, 2016, 11:26:11 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 28, 2016, 06:44:44 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on February 28, 2016, 06:38:53 PM
Matt Crouch >> Brad Crouch

#ShotsFired

Please, Brad will walk all over his younger brother. That's what Matt's are for  ;)

Brad's foot is cooked, I doubt he'll be walking anyway especially not over his fantasy monster brother ;)
Monster Crouch > lil B!tch Crouch

can we both just agree neither are that great and move on?

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on February 29, 2016, 11:47:07 AM
Quote from: Holz on February 28, 2016, 07:00:10 PM
Weits pulls a 99

A got an early feeling we will look back at this draft and say wow how did he slip.

I love kennedy but i think weits is better
Wow, judging how Weitering is going to go by how he played against a 4th-string Essendon side?  :P

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on February 29, 2016, 11:58:29 AM
Quote from: Holz on February 29, 2016, 11:39:50 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on February 29, 2016, 11:35:58 AM
Quote from: elephants on February 29, 2016, 11:26:11 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 28, 2016, 06:44:44 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on February 28, 2016, 06:38:53 PM
Matt Crouch >> Brad Crouch

#ShotsFired

Please, Brad will walk all over his younger brother. That's what Matt's are for  ;)

Brad's foot is cooked, I doubt he'll be walking anyway especially not over his fantasy monster brother ;)
Monster Crouch > lil B!tch Crouch

can we both just agree neither are that great and move on?
Monster Crouch > Goldy
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on February 29, 2016, 12:00:44 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on February 29, 2016, 11:47:07 AM
Quote from: Holz on February 28, 2016, 07:00:10 PM
Weits pulls a 99

A got an early feeling we will look back at this draft and say wow how did he slip.

I love kennedy but i think weits is better
Wow, judging how Weitering is going to go by how he played against a 4th-string Essendon side?  :P

its how he performed and handled himself. He didnt get the CHB or FB role so will play the 3rd tall so plenty of intercept marks. Honestly he hasnt put a foot wrong as of yet.

great Preseason training - huge wraps from club - very good NAB soo far.

second most touches and 9 marks is pretty impressive. I dont think he will do this in his first year but this certainly looks like a Weits game in 3-4 year. Looked very much like Rance.

his game was just soo solid

"Weitering just kept his head when all around him Carlton teammates were losing theirs"

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on February 29, 2016, 12:02:18 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on February 29, 2016, 11:58:29 AM
Quote from: Holz on February 29, 2016, 11:39:50 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on February 29, 2016, 11:35:58 AM
Quote from: elephants on February 29, 2016, 11:26:11 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 28, 2016, 06:44:44 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on February 28, 2016, 06:38:53 PM
Matt Crouch >> Brad Crouch

#ShotsFired

Please, Brad will walk all over his younger brother. That's what Matt's are for  ;)

Brad's foot is cooked, I doubt he'll be walking anyway especially not over his fantasy monster brother ;)
Monster Crouch > lil B!tch Crouch

can we both just agree neither are that great and move on?
Monster Crouch > Goldy

Purp you sure you want crazy people coaching a worlds team?

maybe Rico is confused by what the > symbol means, so ill give it a pass.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on February 29, 2016, 12:05:13 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 29, 2016, 12:02:18 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on February 29, 2016, 11:58:29 AM
Quote from: Holz on February 29, 2016, 11:39:50 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on February 29, 2016, 11:35:58 AM
Quote from: elephants on February 29, 2016, 11:26:11 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 28, 2016, 06:44:44 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on February 28, 2016, 06:38:53 PM
Matt Crouch >> Brad Crouch

#ShotsFired

Please, Brad will walk all over his younger brother. That's what Matt's are for  ;)

Brad's foot is cooked, I doubt he'll be walking anyway especially not over his fantasy monster brother ;)
Monster Crouch > lil B!tch Crouch

can we both just agree neither are that great and move on?
Monster Crouch > Goldy

Purp you sure you want crazy people coaching a worlds team?

maybe Rico is confused by what the > symbol means, so ill give it a pass.
isn't being at least 84.56% legit crazy a prerequisite in Worlds?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on February 29, 2016, 12:16:46 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on February 29, 2016, 12:05:13 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 29, 2016, 12:02:18 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on February 29, 2016, 11:58:29 AM
Quote from: Holz on February 29, 2016, 11:39:50 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on February 29, 2016, 11:35:58 AM
Quote from: elephants on February 29, 2016, 11:26:11 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 28, 2016, 06:44:44 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on February 28, 2016, 06:38:53 PM
Matt Crouch >> Brad Crouch

#ShotsFired

Please, Brad will walk all over his younger brother. That's what Matt's are for  ;)

Brad's foot is cooked, I doubt he'll be walking anyway especially not over his fantasy monster brother ;)
Monster Crouch > lil B!tch Crouch

can we both just agree neither are that great and move on?
Monster Crouch > Goldy

Purp you sure you want crazy people coaching a worlds team?

maybe Rico is confused by what the > symbol means, so ill give it a pass.
isn't being at least 84.56% legit crazy a prerequisite in Worlds?

correct but comparing him to Goldy is crossing the line.

Clone Crouch 15 times and then I might trade all of them for goldy.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on February 29, 2016, 12:22:47 PM
Quote from: elephants on February 29, 2016, 11:26:11 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 28, 2016, 06:44:44 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on February 28, 2016, 06:38:53 PM
Matt Crouch >> Brad Crouch

#ShotsFired

Please, Brad will walk all over his younger brother. That's what Matt's are for  ;)

Brad's foot is cooked, I doubt he'll be walking anyway especially not over his fantasy monster brother ;)

Hush now coaches from New Delhi; Brad is trying to focus on his genuine finals chances.

*click* *snap* *click*
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on February 29, 2016, 12:25:40 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 29, 2016, 12:22:47 PM
Quote from: elephants on February 29, 2016, 11:26:11 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 28, 2016, 06:44:44 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on February 28, 2016, 06:38:53 PM
Matt Crouch >> Brad Crouch

#ShotsFired

Please, Brad will walk all over his younger brother. That's what Matt's are for  ;)

Brad's foot is cooked, I doubt he'll be walking anyway especially not over his fantasy monster brother ;)

Hush now coaches from New Delhi; Brad is trying to focus on his genuine finals chances.

*click* *snap* *click*
Is there another trade period??
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on February 29, 2016, 12:32:11 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on February 29, 2016, 12:25:40 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 29, 2016, 12:22:47 PM
Quote from: elephants on February 29, 2016, 11:26:11 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 28, 2016, 06:44:44 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on February 28, 2016, 06:38:53 PM
Matt Crouch >> Brad Crouch

#ShotsFired

Please, Brad will walk all over his younger brother. That's what Matt's are for  ;)

Brad's foot is cooked, I doubt he'll be walking anyway especially not over his fantasy monster brother ;)

Hush now coaches from New Delhi; Brad is trying to focus on his genuine finals chances.

*click* *snap* *click*
Is there another trade period??

Haha, you won't have Pick 1 & 2 to use as bait this time :P

No... actually, let's not speak too soon :P :P



On a serious note, I do remember saying we might have another brief one after the Essendon mess, but I don't think it's necessary - there was hardly any activity in the January one, so it looks to me that everyone doesn't have any urgent needs they want addressing.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on February 29, 2016, 01:33:25 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 29, 2016, 12:32:11 PM
so it looks to me that everyone doesn't have any urgent needs they want addressing.

hmm

Roughead - PCL
Yarran - Calf
Selwood - Plantar Fascitis

thats 20% of my team injured in the preseason.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on February 29, 2016, 01:38:40 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 29, 2016, 01:33:25 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 29, 2016, 12:32:11 PM
so it looks to me that everyone doesn't have any urgent needs they want addressing.

hmm

Roughead - PCL
Yarran - Calf
Selwood - Plantar Fascitis

thats 20% of my team injured in the preseason.
Matt Crouch for Jelwood, done deal
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on February 29, 2016, 01:58:15 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on February 29, 2016, 01:38:40 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 29, 2016, 01:33:25 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 29, 2016, 12:32:11 PM
so it looks to me that everyone doesn't have any urgent needs they want addressing.

hmm

Roughead - PCL
Yarran - Calf
Selwood - Plantar Fascitis

thats 20% of my team injured in the preseason.
Matt Crouch for Jelwood, done deal
But i have joel selwood not scott selwood.

its ok we only worry about finals and all 3 should be good by the byes.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on February 29, 2016, 02:13:59 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on February 29, 2016, 01:38:40 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 29, 2016, 01:33:25 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 29, 2016, 12:32:11 PM
so it looks to me that everyone doesn't have any urgent needs they want addressing.

hmm

Roughead - PCL
Yarran - Calf
Selwood - Plantar Fascitis

thats 20% of my team injured in the preseason.
Matt Crouch for Jelwood, done deal

I'll have to intervene here. Why do we want to give Holz the best player on the planet?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on February 29, 2016, 07:08:56 PM
Well with Jaensch retiring we could use another lil bit of time to suss our options :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on February 29, 2016, 11:30:31 PM
If it was a genuine free-for-all trade period not a 'only trade if you can justify it on positions' then I'd be interested.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on March 01, 2016, 10:19:58 AM
Vin we picked up Jordan de Goey for the dillos 2 years ago.

looks like he was a good pick

sadly not at the club anymore :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on March 04, 2016, 10:00:35 AM
Quote from: Holz on February 29, 2016, 01:33:25 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 29, 2016, 12:32:11 PM
so it looks to me that everyone doesn't have any urgent needs they want addressing.

hmm

Roughead - PCL
Yarran - Calf
Selwood - Plantar Fascitis

thats 20% of my team injured in the preseason.

Lewis Jetta now injured.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on March 04, 2016, 10:08:32 AM
Shame, was looking forward to beating a full strength Dublin
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on March 04, 2016, 10:08:56 AM
Quote from: Holz on March 04, 2016, 10:00:35 AM
Quote from: Holz on February 29, 2016, 01:33:25 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 29, 2016, 12:32:11 PM
so it looks to me that everyone doesn't have any urgent needs they want addressing.

hmm

Roughead - PCL
Yarran - Calf
Selwood - Plantar Fascitis

thats 20% of my team injured in the preseason.

Lewis Jetta now injured.

London's Jesse Lonergan also got injured though.

Both ex-Brewers   :-X
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on March 04, 2016, 10:38:31 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on March 04, 2016, 10:08:32 AM
Shame, was looking forward to beating a full strength Dublin

will be annoying to lose to a half strength Dublin than.

im looking like Mexico 2015. Will struggle early but probably do enough to win a majority of games. Come home strong in the second half.

my healthy 18 looking in real trouble if Selwood and jetta dont get up. Weitering might Debut in the utility spot.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on March 04, 2016, 10:45:10 AM
During the trade period most teams are hellbent on improving their best XV only but neglects the depth.

Injuries happen, Christchurch rises.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on March 04, 2016, 11:17:16 AM
Quote from: meow meow on March 04, 2016, 10:45:10 AM
During the trade period most teams are hellbent on improving their best XV only but neglects the depth.

Injuries happen, Christchurch rises.

Most teams pushing for a flag are hellbent on going old, but neglect their core of 22-28.

Retirings happen, Christchurch falls.

Sandi, Monty, Mitchell, Mcveigh, Boyd, Wil Minson, Watson

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on March 07, 2016, 12:16:50 PM
Finally some good news for this thread.

RICHMOND recruit Chris Yarran has backed up claims of a shock early return from injury, showcasing his improved fitness with a strong training run on Sunday morning.

Yarran was all but ruled out for the first third of the season just three weeks ago by coach Damien Hardwick, but his touch at Punt Road Oval suggested otherwise.

Teammate Bachar Houli has even suggested Yarran could return for the Tigers' blockbuster season opener against his former club Carlton in just 18 days.

That remains unlikely, given Hardwick's firm stance that the Tigers would not rush Yarran back until he had done the required work to play, but he has clearly made quick progress in the past three weeks.

On Sunday, Yarran completed the full 90-minute training session at Punt Road Oval, moving well and receiving no special treatment for his troubled calf, which he injured twice over the summer.

He kicked well on both feet, took part in all agility work and tackling and wasn't protected from any contact drills.

Star teammate Jack Riewoldt said the 25-year-old had also made strong progress with his physical conditioning.

"At the moment he's tracking along nicely; he's doing a lot of extra hard work just to catch up," Riewoldt said after training on Sunday.

"He's got behind unfortunately just because he's had a couple of niggling calf injuries, but he's on top of those at the moment and he's looking really fit.

"I'd love to see him out there as soon as possible, but we'll do what's best for Chris and his body.

"There's no point rushing him back for round one or two or whenever."



Proably still lose to London somehow but great news puts some massive competition for defence spots with Rance Weits Grundy Hansen all firing and Birchall just resting up for a huge 2016. Might see a few get a spot on the utlity bench.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on March 15, 2016, 12:42:33 PM
A few midfield struggles early at Seoul.

Swallow, Shiels, Myers all missing.

Clayton Oliver looking good though for the round 1 rising star nomination though!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on March 15, 2016, 01:05:47 PM
Kinda regret kennedy over oliver. Early days though
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on March 15, 2016, 02:03:59 PM
Beams and Matho won't be lining up Round 1 for Cairo, we're just praying for no more injuries.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on March 15, 2016, 02:31:18 PM
Beijing being decimated :(

Jaensch and Thurlow for the season, Zorko, Christensen, Petracca all unlikely for Round 1... Lucky our depth is as good as it's ever been!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on March 15, 2016, 03:00:43 PM
Berlin is just hiding in the corner, praying the universe doesn't find out that our worse and only problem at the moment is an injury to Chris Masten  :-X
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on March 15, 2016, 03:16:13 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on March 15, 2016, 03:00:43 PM
Berlin is just hiding in the corner, praying the universe doesn't find out that our worse and only problem at the moment is an injury to Chris Masten  :-X

dont worry with Fyfe Crouch MJ Fisher Petrie Walters Dixon SJ Burgoyne its coming.

interesting side note 5 of those guys are former Dubliners. 
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on March 15, 2016, 03:22:29 PM
Quote from: Holz on March 15, 2016, 03:16:13 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on March 15, 2016, 03:00:43 PM
Berlin is just hiding in the corner, praying the universe doesn't find out that our worse and only problem at the moment is an injury to Chris Masten  :-X

dont worry with Fyfe Crouch MJ Fisher Petrie Walters Dixon SJ Burgoyne its coming.


Ah. I've never listed them all like that before...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on March 15, 2016, 04:32:15 PM
Just to rub in the Stefan Martin thing even more I probably won't have a ruck available in round 1. Sandi suspended. Wilbur hamstring. McKernan underrated. Roughead injured. Maybe Mason Cox will save the day.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on March 15, 2016, 04:49:10 PM
Quote from: meow meow on March 15, 2016, 04:32:15 PM
Just to rub in the Stefan Martin thing even more I probably won't have a ruck available in round 1. Sandi suspended. Wilbur hamstring. McKernan underrated. Roughead injured. Maybe Mason Cox will save the day.
During the trade period most teams are hellbent on improving their best XV only but neglects the depth.

Injuries happen, Christchurch rises?


this is where handcuffing comes in to play

Goldy is out Daw plays.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on March 15, 2016, 05:24:30 PM
You don't win the premiership in round 1. Sandi does his best work at the business end of the season. Go ahead and talk smack all through the season and fail at the final hurdle again pal.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on March 15, 2016, 05:35:11 PM
Quote from: meow meow on March 15, 2016, 05:24:30 PM
You don't win the premiership in round 1. Sandi does his best work at the business end of the season. Go ahead and talk smack all through the season and fail at the final hurdle again pal.


Im happy with how I have done, 2 final appearances for 2 grand finals and 1 flag.

5/6 finals wins Ill take that every day.

you cant win them all, you just have to put yourself in a position to win.






Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on March 15, 2016, 09:25:34 PM
Quote from: Holz on March 15, 2016, 05:35:11 PM
Quote from: meow meow on March 15, 2016, 05:24:30 PM
You don't win the premiership in round 1. Sandi does his best work at the business end of the season. Go ahead and talk smack all through the season and fail at the final hurdle again pal.


Im happy with how I have done, 2 final appearances for 2 grand finals and 1 flag.

5/6 finals wins Ill take that every day.

you cant win them all, you just have to put yourself in a position to win.
Spoken like a true Lebron fan :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on March 15, 2016, 09:42:03 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on March 15, 2016, 09:25:34 PM
Quote from: Holz on March 15, 2016, 05:35:11 PM
Quote from: meow meow on March 15, 2016, 05:24:30 PM
You don't win the premiership in round 1. Sandi does his best work at the business end of the season. Go ahead and talk smack all through the season and fail at the final hurdle again pal.


Im happy with how I have done, 2 final appearances for 2 grand finals and 1 flag.

5/6 finals wins Ill take that every day.

you cant win them all, you just have to put yourself in a position to win.
Spoken like a true Lebron fan :P

If anything im trying to recreate the spurs. never go all out to win it this year just make sure your up there in the conversation every year.

Have super respect for the organisation and thats what im trying to create here at Dublin.

(http://orig05.deviantart.net/ee4a/f/2014/142/c/1/san_antonio_spurs_the_destroyers_fb_cover_by_michaelherradura-d7jd73d.jpg)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on March 16, 2016, 09:01:32 PM
Quote from: Holz on March 15, 2016, 09:42:03 PM
If anything im trying to recreate the spurs. never go all out to win it this year just make sure your up there in the conversation every year.

Did you just compare yourself to Pop?

yeah I could probably see that


(http://oi66.tinypic.com/21lkhub.jpg)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on March 16, 2016, 10:31:43 PM
Gold Levi haha
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on March 17, 2016, 12:32:29 PM
Quote from: Holz on March 17, 2016, 12:23:14 PM
Going through the AFL injury list is no fun

Marc Murphy
Joel Selwood
Grant Birchall
Jarryd Roughead
Lewis Jetta

Yea must be horrible seeing

Murphy - Available
Selwood - Available
Birchall - Test
Jetta - Test
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on March 17, 2016, 02:38:57 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on March 17, 2016, 12:32:29 PM
Quote from: Holz on March 17, 2016, 12:23:14 PM
Going through the AFL injury list is no fun

Marc Murphy
Joel Selwood
Grant Birchall
Jarryd Roughead
Lewis Jetta

Yea must be horrible seeing

Murphy - Available
Selwood - Available
Birchall - Test
Jetta - Test

hahaha gold
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on March 17, 2016, 04:26:39 PM
Quote from: Holz on March 17, 2016, 04:15:19 PM
Quote from: elephants on March 17, 2016, 02:38:57 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on March 17, 2016, 12:32:29 PM
Quote from: Holz on March 17, 2016, 12:23:14 PM
Going through the AFL injury list is no fun

Marc Murphy
Joel Selwood
Grant Birchall
Jarryd Roughead
Lewis Jetta

Yea must be horrible seeing

Murphy - Available
Selwood - Available
Birchall - Test
Jetta - Test

hahaha gold

others might like seeing 33% of your squad with question marks leading into the season? and another guy out for 3 months.

must have high standards at Dublin.

how many times have you seen a player listed available miss a week or a player on test turn into 3-4 weeks.

If I had a dollar for every time you whinged about something I'd be a millionaire.

Birchall and Jetta are very recent injures so they've done basically all of pre-season and will be unaffected. Marc and Jelwood have been under injury clouds for around 12 months (especially Marc) so you've had time to prep for this kind of stuff, not like its a sudden shock.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: LF on March 19, 2016, 02:11:53 PM
http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,106263.0.html

Vacant Coaching position if anyone is interested
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on March 20, 2016, 03:11:35 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on March 15, 2016, 12:42:33 PM
A few midfield struggles early at Seoul.

Swallow, Shiels, Myers all missing.

Clayton Oliver looking good though for the round 1 rising star nomination though!

Think you've forgotten about a lad called Callum Mills...

Prestia the only Best XV Cobra under an injury cloud. Well, maybe Longer but, I think he's just depth at this point.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on March 20, 2016, 03:23:58 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on March 20, 2016, 03:11:35 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on March 15, 2016, 12:42:33 PM
A few midfield struggles early at Seoul.

Swallow, Shiels, Myers all missing.

Clayton Oliver looking good though for the round 1 rising star nomination though!

Think you've forgotten about a lad called Callum Mills...

Think you've forgotten about a lad called Jack Steele...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on March 20, 2016, 04:09:04 PM
It would have gone to Matho!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on March 20, 2016, 07:17:15 PM
Finally got one who is a shot.

Go weits go
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on March 20, 2016, 08:02:28 PM
You boys ready to get Petrekt?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on March 20, 2016, 08:18:07 PM
Quote from: Toga on March 20, 2016, 08:02:28 PM
You boys ready to get Petrekt?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 20, 2016, 09:08:25 PM
InGreshWeTrust
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: AaronKirk on March 20, 2016, 09:09:03 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 20, 2016, 09:08:25 PM
InGreshWeTrust
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on March 20, 2016, 11:38:27 PM
you all forgetting about Laverde!!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on March 21, 2016, 09:02:09 AM
Um... hmm. Yeah. No, I won't be having a player that wins it this year  :-X

But, for curiosities sake, here are all the eligible players;

Braydon Preuss      Beijing Thunder
Christian Petracca      Beijing Thunder
Daniel Butler      Beijing Thunder
Daniel Howe      Beijing Thunder
Gach Nyuon      Beijing Thunder
Jayden Hunt      Beijing Thunder
Kade Stewart      Beijing Thunder
Matthew Flynn      Beijing Thunder
Roarke Smith      Beijing Thunder
Yestin Eades      Beijing Thunder
Corey Wagner      Berlin Brewers
Darcy Byrne-Jones      Berlin Brewers
Jaden McGrath      Berlin Brewers
Lachlan Langford      Berlin Brewers
Malcolm Karpany      Berlin Brewers
Mason Redman      Berlin Brewers
Max King      Berlin Brewers
Mitch King      Berlin Brewers
Wylie Buzza      Berlin Brewers
Bailey Rice      Buenos Aires Armadillos
Callum Moore      Buenos Aires Armadillos
Jack Leslie      Buenos Aires Armadillos
Jesse Joyce      Buenos Aires Armadillos
Jordan Dawson      Buenos Aires Armadillos
Kieran Collins      Buenos Aires Armadillos
Sam Skinner      Buenos Aires Armadillos
Shem-Kalvin Tatupu      Buenos Aires Armadillos
Trent Dumont      Buenos Aires Armadillos
Charlie Curnow      Cairo Sands
David Cuningham      Cairo Sands
Dougal Howard      Cairo Sands
Ed Vickers-Willis      Cairo Sands
Hugh Goddard      Cairo Sands
Jesse Glass-McCasker      Cairo Sands
Josh Deluca      Cairo Sands
Josh McGuinness      Cairo Sands
Karl Amon      Cairo Sands
Oleg Markov      Cairo Sands
Rhys Mathieson      Cairo Sands
Rupert Wills      Cairo Sands
Tom Cole      Cairo Sands
Will Snelling      Cairo Sands
Blake Acres      Cape Town Cobras
Bradley Lynch      Cape Town Cobras
Brady Grey      Cape Town Cobras
Callum Mills      Cape Town Cobras
Cameron Hewett      Cape Town Cobras
Darcy Parish      Cape Town Cobras
Lukas Webb      Cape Town Cobras
Nathan Drummond      Cape Town Cobras
Peter Wright      Cape Town Cobras
Samuel Murray      Cape Town Cobras
Connor Blakely      Christchurch Saints
Conor McKenna      Christchurch Saints
Corey Ellis      Christchurch Saints
Daniel McKenzie      Christchurch Saints
Dillon Viojo-Rainbow      Christchurch Saints
Harrison Wigg      Christchurch Saints
Ivan Soldo      Christchurch Saints
Jack Steele      Christchurch Saints
Jeremy Finlayson      Christchurch Saints
Kyle Langford      Christchurch Saints
Luke Goetz      Christchurch Saints
Toby McLean      Christchurch Saints
Aidyn Johnson      Dublin Destroyers
Bailey Dale      Dublin Destroyers
Ben Crocker      Dublin Destroyers
Jack Silvagni      Dublin Destroyers
Jacob Weitering      Dublin Destroyers
James Parsons      Dublin Destroyers
Jayden Foster      Dublin Destroyers
Kurt Mutimer      Dublin Destroyers
Kyle Galloway      Dublin Destroyers
Luke Surman      Dublin Destroyers
Marc Pittonet      Dublin Destroyers
Matthew Kennedy      Dublin Destroyers
Oscar McDonald      Dublin Destroyers
Reuben William      Dublin Destroyers
Ryan Gardner      Dublin Destroyers
Alec Waterman      London Royals
Billy Evans      London Royals
Blake Hardwick      London Royals
Daniel Nielson      London Royals
Darcy MacPherson      London Royals
Declan Hamilton      London Royals
Hugh Beasley      London Royals
Jarrad Jansen      London Royals
Josh Clayton      London Royals
Josh Schache      London Royals
Joshua Schoenfeld      London Royals
Mabior Chol      London Royals
Michael Luxford      London Royals
Orazio Fantasia      London Royals
Zachary Bates      London Royals
Brandon White      Mexico City Suns
George Hewett      Mexico City Suns
James Rose      Mexico City Suns
James Sicily      Mexico City Suns
Jesse Palmer      Mexico City Suns
Jonathon Marsh      Mexico City Suns
Jordan Cunico      Mexico City Suns
Nicholas Coughlan      Mexico City Suns
Reece McKenzie      Mexico City Suns
Tom Papley      Mexico City Suns
Tyrone Leonardis      Mexico City Suns
Brenton Payne      Moscow Spetsnaz
Cian Hanley      Moscow Spetsnaz
Darcy Moore      Moscow Spetsnaz
Eric Hipwood      Moscow Spetsnaz
Jarrod Pickett      Moscow Spetsnaz
Keenan Ramsey      Moscow Spetsnaz
Matthew Scharenberg      Moscow Spetsnaz
Ryan Burton      Moscow Spetsnaz
Ryan Clarke      Moscow Spetsnaz
Sam Weideman      Moscow Spetsnaz
Tom Barrass      Moscow Spetsnaz
Wayne Milera      Moscow Spetsnaz
Archie Smith      New Delhi Tigers
Brayden Sier      New Delhi Tigers
Dallas Willsmore      New Delhi Tigers
Darcy Tucker      New Delhi Tigers
Ed Langdon      New Delhi Tigers
Jake Barrett      New Delhi Tigers
Luke Partington      New Delhi Tigers
Nick O'Kearney      New Delhi Tigers
Patrick McCartin      New Delhi Tigers
Tom Wallis      New Delhi Tigers
Zac Webster      New Delhi Tigers
Brayden Fiorini      New York Revolution
Dan Houston      New York Revolution
Harley Balic      New York Revolution
Jade Gresham      New York Revolution
James Harmes      New York Revolution
Kurt Heatherley      New York Revolution
Mitchell White      New York Revolution
Teia Miles      New York Revolution
Bailey Williams      Pacific Islanders
Billy Gowers      Pacific Islanders
Callum Ah Chee      Pacific Islanders
Declan Mountford      Pacific Islanders
Harrison Himmelberg      Pacific Islanders
Harry Dear      Pacific Islanders
Jake Kolodjashnij      Pacific Islanders
Matthew Goodyear      Pacific Islanders
Paul Ahern      Pacific Islanders
Tom Read      Pacific Islanders
Will Fordham      Pacific Islanders
Ben Keays      PNL Reindeers
Cameron Loersch      PNL Reindeers
Jarrod Garlett      PNL Reindeers
Jayden Laverde      PNL Reindeers
Jermaine Miller-Lewis      PNL Reindeers
Michael Apeness      PNL Reindeers
Mitchell Hibberd      PNL Reindeers
Ryan Nyhuis      PNL Reindeers
Aaron Francis      Rio de Janeiro Jaguars
Brayden Maynard      Rio de Janeiro Jaguars
Daniel Rioli      Rio de Janeiro Jaguars
Matthew Hammelmann      Rio de Janeiro Jaguars
Tom Lamb      Rio de Janeiro Jaguars
Zaine Cordy      Rio de Janeiro Jaguars
Caleb Daniel      Seoul Magpies
Caleb Marchbank      Seoul Magpies
Clayton Oliver      Seoul Magpies
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Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on March 21, 2016, 11:32:30 AM
PartingTON
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on March 21, 2016, 11:39:11 AM
Putting some tips in

1.Jack Steele
2. Daniel Howe (If cracks 22)
3. Jake Kolodjashnij
4. Jayden Laverde
5. Callum Mills

this might surprise a few.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on March 21, 2016, 02:26:45 PM
Mexico are ripe for the picking round 1!

No Lids
No Bennell
Rocky coming off a hammy
No Stanton obviously

Get around NDT for an early win!

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on March 21, 2016, 02:27:46 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on March 21, 2016, 02:26:45 PM
Mexico are ripe for the picking round 1!

No Lids
No Bennell
Rocky coming off a hammy
No Stanton obviously

Get around NDT for an early win!

Go NDT Go.

saying that NDT are ripe for the picking.

1. they are NDT
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on March 21, 2016, 02:35:27 PM
Quote from: Holz on March 21, 2016, 02:27:46 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on March 21, 2016, 02:26:45 PM
Mexico are ripe for the picking round 1!

No Lids
No Bennell
Rocky coming off a hammy
No Stanton obviously

Get around NDT for an early win!

Go NDT Go.

saying that NDT are ripe for the picking.

1. they are NDT
Pls

We do have a few out though, with Howe and Jezza Cameron

Mexico backline kills ours, our mids are a little deeper, SMartin over Maric, their forward line over ours.

Rich, Wellingham, Bugg, Davis
Sidey, KJack, Conigs, Wallis, Scully, MCrouch
SMartin
Darling, Cloke, JMartin, ZClarke

vs

Shaw, Bartel, Simpson, Broadbent
Rocky, Cotchin, Ebert, Goddard, Ellis-Yolmen??, SGray??
Maric
NRoo, Betts, BHarvey, Wells
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 21, 2016, 02:46:54 PM
Quote from: Holz on March 21, 2016, 02:27:46 PM
1. they are NDT

Sorry Rico, but that actually made me laugh lol

Go NDT!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on March 22, 2016, 10:55:13 AM
CHRISTCHURCH SAINTS

B: Matthew Boyd, Sam Gilbert, Nathan Wilson, Harris Andrews
M: Sam Mitchell (VC), Bryce Gibbs, Hamish Hartlett, Ryan Griffen (C)
R: Shaun McKernan
F: Leigh Montagna,  Jake Stringer, Luke Breust, Jeff Garlett
U: Koby Stevens, Jack Steele

E: Aaron Vandenberg, Sean Dempster, Kyle Langford

Rest: Aaron Vandenberg
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on March 22, 2016, 11:08:39 AM
Quote from: meow meow on March 22, 2016, 10:55:13 AM
CHRISTCHURCH SAINTS

B: Matthew Boyd, Sam Gilbert, Nathan Wilson, Harris Andrews
M: Sam Mitchell (VC), Bryce Gibbs, Hamish Hartlett, Ryan Griffen (C)
R: Shaun McKernan
F: Leigh Montagna,  Jake Stringer, Luke Breust, Jeff Garlett
U: Koby Stevens, Jack Steele

E: Aaron Vandenberg, Sean Dempster, Kyle Langford

Rest: Aaron Vandenberg

wrong thread Meow I posted it in the week 1 thread just in case you dont see this.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on March 22, 2016, 11:10:37 AM
Thanks Holz.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on March 22, 2016, 11:14:10 AM
Quote from: meow meow on March 22, 2016, 11:10:37 AM
Thanks Holz.

good team im legit worried about it this year.

didnt see you had Wilson, i think the kid will be a jet this year.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on March 24, 2016, 03:57:04 PM
Beams out for the first half of the year Leppa reckons.

Nah, that's okay, we had no aspirations of doing better than last year anyway.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on March 24, 2016, 05:01:59 PM
The 2016 draft crop is pretty handy so there's your silver lining. I'll give you a couple of good players for Beams in the trade period so you've got that to look forward to too.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on March 24, 2016, 09:26:00 PM
On a side note, PNL are also on the market for another top 10 pick this season if we don't finish in the bottom 8 :P.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jukes on March 25, 2016, 03:11:59 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on March 24, 2016, 09:26:00 PM
On a side note, PNL are also on the market for another top 10 pick this season if we don't finish in the bottom 8 :P.

We'll give you the first overall pick for Priddis

Done deal?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: AaronKirk on April 04, 2016, 02:50:00 PM
I saw an article online saying that Tippett was out for a month with a back injury thinking oh flower and then read it only to find that it was Joel Tippett and not Kurt.

I didn't think Joel was still at North Melbourne LOL.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on April 04, 2016, 02:55:59 PM
I'm just imagining our team with Jaensch and Thurlow at D1 & D3... Not a score over 53 in our backline this week is so yuck haha :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on April 04, 2016, 03:04:11 PM
Gibbs 2 vs Rocky 0
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on April 04, 2016, 03:08:17 PM
Quote from: meow meow on April 04, 2016, 03:04:11 PM
Gibbs 2 vs Rocky 0



yeah Rocky not looking great. He just cant get his body right. Gibbs looking somewhat decent.

im not unhappy as Gunston 2 vs 0 Gibbs/Rocky especially when I get Murphy added on top. :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on April 04, 2016, 03:11:39 PM
These two trades will end up costing me the flag

Trade 74
Dublin trade: Scott Thompson, Robert Murphy, Nathan van Berlo, Josh Walker + Pick 92
Rio de Janeiro trade: Pick 5

Trade 107
Berlin trade: Lewis Jetta
Dublin trade: Steve Johnson

unbelievable amount of damage in trying to make my team all under 30

cost me 17 points this week and a win.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on April 04, 2016, 03:14:36 PM
Rocky and Gibbs played in the same round only 6 times last year. Gibbs won that 5-1.
Gibbs won 4 rounds by default since Rocky wasn't playing, Tom won 10 purely because Bryce missed.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on April 04, 2016, 03:19:08 PM
Quote from: meow meow on April 04, 2016, 03:14:36 PM
Rocky and Gibbs played in the same round only 6 times last year. Gibbs won that 5-1.
Gibbs won 4 rounds by default since Rocky wasn't playing, Tom won 10 purely because Bryce missed.

to be fair my point was always you could have got more out him.

he cost you  Gunston + Boak.



Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on April 04, 2016, 03:28:06 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 04, 2016, 03:08:17 PM
Quote from: meow meow on April 04, 2016, 03:04:11 PM
Gibbs 2 vs Rocky 0



yeah Rocky not looking great. He just cant get his body right. Gibbs looking somewhat decent.

im not unhappy as Gunston 2 vs 0 Gibbs/Rocky especially when I get Murphy added on top. :P

It's quite a complicated string of trades when you look back on it. Basically for my team its:

Sloane and Roughead for Boak, Zorko and 12 basically
12 for Scully
Scully for Koby Stevens
Zorko and Frampton for Griffen and Corey Ellis
Boak and Gunston for Rocky and Josh Green
Green for Nathan Wilson
Rocky and Sicily for Sandi and Gibbs

So Sloane, Roughead, Gunston, Sicily and Frampton for Gibbs, Sandi, Griffen, Stevens, Wilson and Ellis.
Sicily and Ellis cancel each other out.
Sloane = Gibbs.
I'm happy enough with Roughead and Gunston for Sandi, Griff, Stevens and Wilson. Added depth which is what I wanted to do.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 11, 2016, 01:11:18 PM
Top of the table clash this week should be very interesting

If we can knock off Cairo, then we're guaranteed to be in the Top 2  :)

Early days I know, but we can enjoy it while it lasts haha
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on April 11, 2016, 01:44:13 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 11, 2016, 01:11:18 PM
If we can knock off Cairo, then we're guaranteed to be in the Top 2  :)
Just ask PNL how fun that can be.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on April 11, 2016, 01:51:26 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 04, 2016, 03:11:39 PM
These two trades will end up costing me the flag

Trade 74
Dublin trade: Scott Thompson, Robert Murphy, Nathan van Berlo, Josh Walker + Pick 92
Rio de Janeiro trade: Pick 5

Trade 107
Berlin trade: Lewis Jetta
Dublin trade: Steve Johnson

unbelievable amount of damage in trying to make my team all under 30

cost me 17 points this week and a win.

Feeling better this week with jetta pushing 100 and murphy going down injured
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 11, 2016, 01:59:10 PM
Quote from: Nige on April 11, 2016, 01:44:13 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 11, 2016, 01:11:18 PM
If we can knock off Cairo, then we're guaranteed to be in the Top 2  :)
Just ask PNL how fun that can be.

I know, which is why I said "if we can"

No arrogance here - but hoping to get it done
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on April 11, 2016, 02:38:28 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 11, 2016, 01:59:10 PM
Quote from: Nige on April 11, 2016, 01:44:13 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 11, 2016, 01:11:18 PM
If we can knock off Cairo, then we're guaranteed to be in the Top 2  :)
Just ask PNL how fun that can be.

I know, which is why I said "if we can"

No arrogance here - but hoping to get it done
At least Jarrad Waite is due for a shower one.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 11, 2016, 09:56:56 PM
Feels like World's is a lot quieter this year

Seems like at least half the coaches just come on, post their team for the week then vanish again

I miss the buzz and chatter that trade period brings around here when all coaches are active
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on April 11, 2016, 10:09:01 PM
I bet 4.5 Nigeys that New York's captain scores less than 70.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on April 11, 2016, 10:35:31 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 11, 2016, 09:56:56 PM
Feels like World's is a lot quieter this year

Seems like at least half the coaches just come on, post their team for the week then vanish again

I miss the buzz and chatter that trade period brings around here when all coaches are active

As do I  :-\ the game threads are noticeably smaller than what they were last year.

I suppose the novelty wears off after a while  :(. For some coaches this is crazily their 5th season  :o
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 11, 2016, 11:09:31 PM
If the novelty wears off, then resign and hand the team over to someone who wants to be involved

I'm not saying that applies to anyone here - I wouldn't know - but it does seem pretty flat around here this year.

Just the usual suspects getting really involved

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on April 11, 2016, 11:27:48 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 11, 2016, 11:09:31 PM
If the novelty wears off, then resign and hand the team over to someone who wants to be involved

I'm not saying that applies to anyone here - I wouldn't know - but it does seem pretty flat around here this year.

Just the usual suspects getting really involved
I'm with you.

There are quite a number of coaches in XVs these days who literally just post their teams and do nothing else. Worlds arguably has the most banter which is crazy considering how little there seems to be.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on April 11, 2016, 11:50:48 PM
Its FF in general. Comments have dropped off over weekends. Matchday threads use to have a lot more traffic

Worlds has been pretty good i thought :-X

As long as coaches keep posting teams we can't expect much more. Not everyone can be on FF heaps throughout the week
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on April 12, 2016, 08:15:46 AM
not many posts from me atm or HP
we are trapped in a groundhog day type scenario
it is 2012 all over again and whatever can go wrong will go wrong

(for the newer guys unaware PNL had a shocking run with injury for the first couple of years and got the unluckiest team tag)

nott hat many injuries so far but bloody big ones

so bill murray broke it when he got everything perfect in his life

looks like we are screwed i don't think we will win the flag
we may be trapped forever
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 12, 2016, 08:49:51 AM
Just because you're having a bad year Daz doesn't mean you have to run away :)

Dunno, just seems a bit of a shame. We've got 18 teams and over 20 coaches but about 1/3 actively participate, 1/3 drop in once every blue moon and the other 1/3 are ghosts

Not much that can be done, just a little disappointing I guess

Maybe we need all year round trading to keep everyone involved hehe
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on April 12, 2016, 09:37:04 AM
Some people post useless dribble, some people brag, some people banter, some people are quiet. Everyones entitled to their own personality and strategies!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on April 12, 2016, 09:40:06 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 12, 2016, 08:49:51 AM
Maybe we need all year round trading to keep everyone involved hehe


RD wants me dead via insanity, can confirm.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 12, 2016, 09:40:46 AM
Confirmed  ;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 12, 2016, 10:54:37 AM
Something I have raised before and will do so again here do we need a two week mid season trading period to assist teams who are injury ravished in certain lines.

Do not post a lot in here i know mainly because of being admin of other comp.

Agree with the comment earlier that FF in general has been a lot quieter than normal this year all round.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on April 12, 2016, 11:16:41 AM
I tend to lean more towards not having a mid-season trade period; a combination of because the AFL doesn't do it and because its another step towards having less meaningful significance of a player being on your list.

Could be something we might look at I guess if that idea gets a lot of noise though.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on April 12, 2016, 11:19:26 AM
I blame life for getting in the way, such an inconsiderate barbie.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on April 12, 2016, 11:55:55 AM
Beijing supports a midseason trade period. Jaensch & Thurlow going down just after trading has us struggling down back!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on April 12, 2016, 11:57:57 AM
Quote from: elephants on April 12, 2016, 11:19:26 AM
I blame life for getting in the way, such an inconsiderate barbie.
This large grey beast speaks the truth
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on April 12, 2016, 12:27:36 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on April 11, 2016, 10:35:31 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 11, 2016, 09:56:56 PM
Feels like World's is a lot quieter this year

Seems like at least half the coaches just come on, post their team for the week then vanish again

I miss the buzz and chatter that trade period brings around here when all coaches are active

As do I  :-\ the game threads are noticeably smaller than what they were last year.

I suppose the novelty wears off after a while  :(. For some coaches this is crazily their 5th season  :o
That was probably just me posting quarterly updates in a tight Sunday match, or reminding you all of the resurgent wolves in A.Hall and Robbo (who, may I add, are still flowering killing it :P)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on April 12, 2016, 01:28:17 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on April 12, 2016, 12:27:36 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on April 11, 2016, 10:35:31 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 11, 2016, 09:56:56 PM
Feels like World's is a lot quieter this year

Seems like at least half the coaches just come on, post their team for the week then vanish again

I miss the buzz and chatter that trade period brings around here when all coaches are active

As do I  :-\ the game threads are noticeably smaller than what they were last year.

I suppose the novelty wears off after a while  :(. For some coaches this is crazily their 5th season  :o
That was probably just me posting quarterly updates in a tight Sunday match, or reminding you all of the resurgent wolves in A.Hall and Robbo (who, may I add, are still flowering killing it :P)

Your Jamie MacMillan hype was probably the reason why I got him you know :P

He isn't exactly killing though mind you >:(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on April 12, 2016, 01:41:02 PM
Dublin
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on April 12, 2016, 01:43:03 PM
Useless drivel.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on April 12, 2016, 01:43:37 PM
Quote from: meow meow on April 12, 2016, 01:41:02 PM
Dublin
are going to lose this weekend
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on April 12, 2016, 01:43:55 PM
Gibbs > Rockliff
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on April 12, 2016, 01:45:58 PM
Zorko >>>>>>> mid only Griffen. Where's my flowering compo pick? No wonder Jing are dominating when you let them rob me blind.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on April 12, 2016, 01:49:02 PM
Everyone including Dawson >>>>>>>>>> Watson. Where's my flowering compo pick? No wonder Rio are dominating when you let them rob me blind. Fair and equitable trading my muscular buttocks.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on April 12, 2016, 08:10:36 PM
Quote from: meow meow on April 12, 2016, 01:49:02 PM
Everyone including Dawson >>>>>>>>>> Watson. Where's my flowering compo pick? No wonder Rio are dominating when you let them rob me blind. Fair and equitable trading my muscular buttocks.

I offered you for him back though  ;D ;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on April 12, 2016, 08:27:12 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on April 12, 2016, 08:10:36 PM
Quote from: meow meow on April 12, 2016, 01:49:02 PM
Everyone including Dawson >>>>>>>>>> Watson. Where's my flowering compo pick? No wonder Rio are dominating when you let them rob me blind. Fair and equitable trading my muscular buttocks.

I offered you for him back though  ;D ;D

You gave up murphy jroo for boak watson. So if watson useless you got ripped off
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on April 12, 2016, 08:33:37 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 12, 2016, 08:27:12 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on April 12, 2016, 08:10:36 PM
Quote from: meow meow on April 12, 2016, 01:49:02 PM
Everyone including Dawson >>>>>>>>>> Watson. Where's my flowering compo pick? No wonder Rio are dominating when you let them rob me blind. Fair and equitable trading my muscular buttocks.

I offered you for him back though  ;D ;D

You gave up murphy jroo for boak watson. So if watson useless you got ripped off

I on traded Watson to meow though. So in hindsight he did get ripped off, but at the time of the trade we obviously didn't know Watson would be getting suspended.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on April 12, 2016, 08:43:25 PM
Jobe for Bob mid season trade period done deal.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on April 12, 2016, 11:02:15 PM
Quote from: meow meow on April 12, 2016, 08:43:25 PM
Jobe for Bob mid season trade period done deal.

Both Ex Dubliners
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on April 13, 2016, 12:22:31 AM
Quote from: Holz on April 12, 2016, 11:02:15 PM
Quote from: meow meow on April 12, 2016, 08:43:25 PM
Jobe for Bob mid season trade period done deal.

Both Ex Dubliners
Both ex Cobras too now you mention it.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nails on April 13, 2016, 12:27:11 AM
How about those armour dildos? They are getting robbed. Don't deserve to be bottom.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on April 13, 2016, 11:49:39 AM
thanks for blocking my Goldy trade everyone

I would have Sam Jacobs, Travis Boak, Taylor Garner, Josh Bruce instead of Todd Golstein, Jim Parsons, Daniel Currie, Majak Daw

basically Jacobs (78) + Boak (78) over Goldy (131)

Rio would be looking almost invincible.



Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on April 13, 2016, 12:18:45 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 13, 2016, 11:49:39 AM
thanks for blocking my Goldy trade everyone

I would have Sam Jacobs, Travis Boak, Taylor Garner, Josh Bruce instead of Todd Golstein, Jim Parsons, Daniel Currie, Majak Daw

basically Jacobs (78) + Boak (78) over Goldy (131)

Rio would be looking almost invincible.
Doing trade reviews three weeks into the season is a bit of a stretch Holz, even for you! Haha.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on April 13, 2016, 12:32:26 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on April 13, 2016, 12:18:45 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 13, 2016, 11:49:39 AM
thanks for blocking my Goldy trade everyone

I would have Sam Jacobs, Travis Boak, Taylor Garner, Josh Bruce instead of Todd Golstein, Jim Parsons, Daniel Currie, Majak Daw

basically Jacobs (78) + Boak (78) over Goldy (131)

Rio would be looking almost invincible.
Doing trade reviews three weeks into the season is a bit of a stretch Holz, even for you! Haha.

its goldy though, i dont know what I was thinking.

Boak would help but not at this cost.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jukes on April 13, 2016, 02:16:02 PM
I'm not even going to go into how much our team has been screwed over by you guys negging about 9001 trades that favour us...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on April 13, 2016, 05:49:56 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 12, 2016, 08:49:51 AM
Just because you're having a bad year Daz doesn't mean you have to run away :)

Dunno, just seems a bit of a shame. We've got 18 teams and over 20 coaches but about 1/3 actively participate, 1/3 drop in once every blue moon and the other 1/3 are ghosts

Not much that can be done, just a little disappointing I guess

Maybe we need all year round trading to keep everyone involved hehe

Think Daz was just summing up how we're having luck again this year, but not why we are posting less (which probably was confusing there haha) :P. I try to banter when I can, but think everybody has noticed I'm not on the forum much as life getting a bit hectic and not really on the forum much because of it (sometimes still lurk ;) ). Daz also got a little boost in his job so he's also keeping busy, otherwise we try to bob in every now and again for the banter, like how we proved the Thunder was all bang :P.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on April 13, 2016, 06:15:07 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on April 13, 2016, 05:49:56 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 12, 2016, 08:49:51 AM
Just because you're having a bad year Daz doesn't mean you have to run away :)

Dunno, just seems a bit of a shame. We've got 18 teams and over 20 coaches but about 1/3 actively participate, 1/3 drop in once every blue moon and the other 1/3 are ghosts

Not much that can be done, just a little disappointing I guess

Maybe we need all year round trading to keep everyone involved hehe

Think Daz was just summing up how we're having luck again this year, but not why we are posting less (which probably was confusing there haha) :P. I try to banter when I can, but think everybody has noticed I'm not on the forum much as life getting a bit hectic and not really on the forum much because of it (sometimes still lurk ;) ). Daz also got a little boost in his job so he's also keeping busy, otherwise we try to bob in every now and again for the banter, like how we proved the Thunder was all bang :P.
^^
HP got it i probably worded it poorly
but yeah wasn't saying because we are going bad we crack the showers or anything

was more making a light hearted joke of the poor luck into a movie reference

as HP said both been bit busy lately and for the next week going to be hectic then should die down a little form there
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on April 13, 2016, 06:28:52 PM
Sorry all should really mention dublin a few more times.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: MajorLazer on April 14, 2016, 12:33:28 AM
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo




im a ghost
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 14, 2016, 08:43:24 AM
Quote from: MajorLazer on April 14, 2016, 12:33:28 AM
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo




im a ghost

Boo!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on April 14, 2016, 11:58:14 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 11, 2016, 09:56:56 PM
Feels like World's is a lot quieter this year

Seems like at least half the coaches just come on, post their team for the week then vanish again

I miss the buzz and chatter that trade period brings around here when all coaches are active

Been a busy off-season for me. Changed jobs, moved house - lots still going at the moment which is why I've been around less.

Also a bit less interest for Cape Town this season as it's kind of a mini rebuild year for us.

Some real good signs for us this week with Miller returning from injury and Bird and Acres regaining their spots in the team.

Also really pleased to see Lachie Plowman get a game for Carlton this week. Now to see if he's as good as meow (and I) thought - we knocked back a stack of offers for him over the off-season #NextBirchall

Some more good signs for us with Mitch Honeychurch, George Horlin-Smith and Peter Wright going well in the reserves and Sam Colquhoun named on the extended bench for Port.

Billy Longer is back from injury and Hickey looks like he could be dropped for him if he doesn't perform. Nankervis seems to have cemented his spot as the third choice ruck at the Swans after Tippett/Sinclair while we could see Lukas Webb and Tim Broomhead soon I hope.

PS - Matt Dea as the last pick in recycled draft could be the find of the season.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on April 15, 2016, 11:02:11 AM
It's never too early to open trade discussions so all you clubs struggling to field a team at round 4 should be aware that depth is valuable. When the OOP's start rolling in only then will you value guys like Garlett, Vandenberg and Reid properly. I look forward to your enquiries.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on April 15, 2016, 11:58:48 AM
Which reminds me, there has only been ONE OOP player so far this year (I'm looking at you Beijing), which is a HUGE improvement from 2015.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on April 15, 2016, 12:15:50 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on April 15, 2016, 11:58:48 AM
Which reminds me, there has only been ONE OOP player so far this year (I'm looking at you Beijing), which is a HUGE improvement from 2015.

Fu*#ing Buckley!!!!  >:(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on April 15, 2016, 01:50:23 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on April 14, 2016, 11:58:14 PM
PS - Matt Dea as the last pick in recycled draft could be the find of the season.
Been good so far, I wanted him but I already had a plethora of defenders
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on April 15, 2016, 02:07:13 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on April 15, 2016, 01:50:23 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on April 14, 2016, 11:58:14 PM
PS - Matt Dea as the last pick in recycled draft could be the find of the season.
Been good so far, I wanted him but I already had a plethora of defenders
Yep, same here.

Eazy and Gov in doubt for tonight though, which means we may have to elevate Dale Morris and play Sam Rowe if they're late outs.  :-X
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on April 15, 2016, 02:19:27 PM
Quote from: Nige on April 15, 2016, 02:07:13 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on April 15, 2016, 01:50:23 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on April 14, 2016, 11:58:14 PM
PS - Matt Dea as the last pick in recycled draft could be the find of the season.
Been good so far, I wanted him but I already had a plethora of defenders
Yep, same here.

Eazy and Gov in doubt for tonight though, which means we may have to elevate Dale Morris and play Sam Rowe if they're late outs.  :-X

I've also heard that Crippa and Pridda might be out as well so watch this space haha
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on April 15, 2016, 02:51:58 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 15, 2016, 02:19:27 PM
Quote from: Nige on April 15, 2016, 02:07:13 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on April 15, 2016, 01:50:23 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on April 14, 2016, 11:58:14 PM
PS - Matt Dea as the last pick in recycled draft could be the find of the season.
Been good so far, I wanted him but I already had a plethora of defenders
Yep, same here.

Eazy and Gov in doubt for tonight though, which means we may have to elevate Dale Morris and play Sam Rowe if they're late outs.  :-X

I've also heard that Crippa and Pridda might be out as well so watch this space haha
My Supercoach really doesn't need Matt Priddis to miss this wee. Pridda pls.  :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on April 15, 2016, 02:57:23 PM
Quote from: Nige on April 15, 2016, 02:51:58 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 15, 2016, 02:19:27 PM
Quote from: Nige on April 15, 2016, 02:07:13 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on April 15, 2016, 01:50:23 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on April 14, 2016, 11:58:14 PM
PS - Matt Dea as the last pick in recycled draft could be the find of the season.
Been good so far, I wanted him but I already had a plethora of defenders
Yep, same here.

Eazy and Gov in doubt for tonight though, which means we may have to elevate Dale Morris and play Sam Rowe if they're late outs.  :-X

I've also heard that Crippa and Pridda might be out as well so watch this space haha
My Supercoach really doesn't need Matt Priddis to miss this wee. Pridda pls.  :(

Priddis is our Deledio though, without him we'd need a monstrous game from Jack Redden
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on April 16, 2016, 12:04:48 AM
Even without Pridda, you didn't get it :P.

On that note, Pridda :'( :'(.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on April 18, 2016, 04:48:46 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on April 16, 2016, 12:04:48 AM
Even without Pridda, you didn't get it :P.

On that note, Pridda :'( :'(.

Haha yeah it seems he's taking some time to fit in. Clearly it was Shuey and Yeoy that went nuts in his absence!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 20, 2016, 06:56:57 PM
Just realised our next 4 games are at home

Tough competition in  Christchurch, Beijing, PNL and Dublin

Hopeful HGA can really help us!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on April 20, 2016, 08:08:04 PM
Season defining month for New York I see...

*takes mental note for next week's write-up*
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 20, 2016, 08:17:50 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on April 20, 2016, 08:08:04 PM
Season defining month for New York I see...

*takes mental note for next week's write-up*

It really is. If we can somehow get through this next month at 2-2 I'd be pretty damn happy with that, which would have us sitting at 5-3 with a softer draw in the second half of the season
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on April 20, 2016, 08:28:51 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on April 19, 2016, 09:34:23 PM
"Great Work LeviPurple!"

:P

Berlin just happen to be the highest scored against. Surely not because of bad coaching? Such as inconsistent captaincy? Constant fear of Ben Jacobs? Coach Purple providing inspiration to his opponents each week in his write-ups?

Pacific quietly impressive in 5th top scoring, unfortunately for them they sit 3rd in points against. Brutal!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on April 20, 2016, 08:43:30 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on April 20, 2016, 08:28:51 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on April 19, 2016, 09:34:23 PM
"Great Work LeviPurple!"

:P

Berlin just happen to be the highest scored against. Surely not because of bad coaching? Such as inconsistent captaincy? Constant fear of Ben Jacobs? Coach Purple providing inspiration to his opponents each week in his write-ups?

Pacific quietly impressive in 5th top scoring, unfortunately for them they sit 3rd in points against. Brutal!

Lol :P

.... um, we gotta take a step backwards before we take two steps forwards?  :-X
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 21, 2016, 08:52:59 AM
To be fair, points against is a useless stat in this comp. We can only control our offence, not defence in this game
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on April 21, 2016, 09:56:48 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 21, 2016, 08:52:59 AM
To be fair, points against is a useless stat in this comp. We can only control our offence, not defence in this game

Also the draw is stacked. In the final 5 rounds all the top teams will be cold as well as hot streak.

Can i suggest cold streak is when a team is peforming lower then average.for example dublin on a cold streak averaging only 150 when its normally 170 :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on April 21, 2016, 10:21:53 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 21, 2016, 08:52:59 AM
To be fair, points against is a useless stat in this comp. We can only control our offence, not defence in this game

I just like to pretend  :P

Quote from: Holz on April 21, 2016, 09:56:48 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 21, 2016, 08:52:59 AM
To be fair, points against is a useless stat in this comp. We can only control our offence, not defence in this game

Also the draw is stacked. In the final 5 rounds all the top teams will be cold as well as hot streak.

Can i suggest cold streak is when a team is peforming lower then average.for example dublin on a cold streak averaging only 150 when its normally 170 :P

In a world where I had extra time, I reckon I would acknowledge this as well.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on April 21, 2016, 10:27:16 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on April 21, 2016, 10:21:53 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 21, 2016, 08:52:59 AM
To be fair, points against is a useless stat in this comp. We can only control our offence, not defence in this game

I just like to pretend  :P

Quote from: Holz on April 21, 2016, 09:56:48 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 21, 2016, 08:52:59 AM
To be fair, points against is a useless stat in this comp. We can only control our offence, not defence in this game

Also the draw is stacked. In the final 5 rounds all the top teams will be cold as well as hot streak.

Can i suggest cold streak is when a team is peforming lower then average.for example dublin on a cold streak averaging only 150 when its normally 170 :P

In a world where I had extra time, I reckon I would acknowledge this as well.

yeah everything is really good, you put in enough time.

just wanted to point out Dublin underpeforming :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on April 25, 2016, 12:59:15 PM
We haven't seen O'Kearney yet but still regret not grabbing Wagner.

Quote from: Ricochet on December 11, 2015, 01:51:04 PM
Quote from: Vinny on December 11, 2015, 01:46:34 PM
Joshua Wagner
How did he last this long. We were tossing him up over O'Kearney

Awesome pick man
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on April 25, 2016, 01:41:36 PM
It was either him or Gallucci for me.. Bad choice.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on April 25, 2016, 02:18:42 PM
I never thought Wagner would be this impressive so far!

I'm just stoked Josh Smith will debut today, after I was SO GLAD jroo picked Papley instead ::)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on April 25, 2016, 02:25:42 PM
The thing that showers me is the deciding factor to go Gallucci over Wagner for me was the massive imbalance of defenders:forwards I had on my list... Look how those defenders are going now, and I've got forwards coming out of my ears :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 25, 2016, 04:20:46 PM
Bad luck Purps re Fyfe  :-[
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on April 25, 2016, 04:31:40 PM
there is always a positve.

berlin wont pick the wrong guy out of fyfe and gawn again
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on April 25, 2016, 06:41:01 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 25, 2016, 04:20:46 PM
Bad luck Purps re Fyfe  :-[

If I was not currently in the bottom 4, and my bottom lip wasn't already showing, I'd be chucking a tantrum.

But he wasn't going to do much good in my premiership push THIS year at least  :(

Quote from: Holz on April 25, 2016, 04:31:40 PM
there is always a positve.

berlin wont pick the wrong guy out of fyfe and gawn again

I did think of that lol
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on April 25, 2016, 07:08:18 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on April 25, 2016, 06:41:01 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 25, 2016, 04:20:46 PM
Bad luck Purps re Fyfe  :-[

If I was not currently in the bottom 4, and my bottom lip wasn't already showing, I'd be chucking a tantrum.

But he wasn't going to do much good in my premiership push THIS year at least  :(

Quote from: Holz on April 25, 2016, 04:31:40 PM
there is always a positve.

berlin wont pick the wrong guy out of fyfe and gawn again

I did think of that lol

Are Berlin the Freo of the WXV?

Fyfe and Johnson out long term - time to rebuild perhaps?  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on April 25, 2016, 08:23:59 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on April 25, 2016, 07:08:18 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on April 25, 2016, 06:41:01 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 25, 2016, 04:20:46 PM
Bad luck Purps re Fyfe  :-[

If I was not currently in the bottom 4, and my bottom lip wasn't already showing, I'd be chucking a tantrum.

But he wasn't going to do much good in my premiership push THIS year at least  :(

Quote from: Holz on April 25, 2016, 04:31:40 PM
there is always a positve.

berlin wont pick the wrong guy out of fyfe and gawn again

I did think of that lol

Are Berlin the Freo of the WXV?

Fyfe and Johnson out long term - time to rebuild perhaps?  :P


... I didn't know about Johnson...

*looks towards the sky*

"YOU THINK THIS IS FUNNY?!"
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on April 25, 2016, 09:08:10 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on April 25, 2016, 08:23:59 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on April 25, 2016, 07:08:18 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on April 25, 2016, 06:41:01 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 25, 2016, 04:20:46 PM
Bad luck Purps re Fyfe  :-[

If I was not currently in the bottom 4, and my bottom lip wasn't already showing, I'd be chucking a tantrum.

But he wasn't going to do much good in my premiership push THIS year at least  :(

Quote from: Holz on April 25, 2016, 04:31:40 PM
there is always a positve.

berlin wont pick the wrong guy out of fyfe and gawn again

I did think of that lol

Are Berlin the Freo of the WXV?

Fyfe and Johnson out long term - time to rebuild perhaps?  :P


... I didn't know about Johnson...

*looks towards the sky*

"YOU THINK THIS IS FUNNY?!"

if you need the rebuild
what does PNL need?  :-X
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on April 25, 2016, 10:17:13 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on April 25, 2016, 09:08:10 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on April 25, 2016, 08:23:59 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on April 25, 2016, 07:08:18 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on April 25, 2016, 06:41:01 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 25, 2016, 04:20:46 PM
Bad luck Purps re Fyfe  :-[

If I was not currently in the bottom 4, and my bottom lip wasn't already showing, I'd be chucking a tantrum.

But he wasn't going to do much good in my premiership push THIS year at least  :(

Quote from: Holz on April 25, 2016, 04:31:40 PM
there is always a positve.

berlin wont pick the wrong guy out of fyfe and gawn again

I did think of that lol

Are Berlin the Freo of the WXV?

Fyfe and Johnson out long term - time to rebuild perhaps?  :P


... I didn't know about Johnson...

*looks towards the sky*

"YOU THINK THIS IS FUNNY?!"

if you need the rebuild
what does PNL need?  :-X

To trade with dublin

Thats never not paid off
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on April 28, 2016, 02:25:01 PM
Who has the worst DT:SC ratio in worlds this year??

Seb Ross is so frustrating atm

Finding so much footy and averaging 103DT.... but only 86SC ::)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on April 28, 2016, 03:16:12 PM
Dickson 89:62
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on April 28, 2016, 03:21:45 PM
Quote from: meow meow on April 28, 2016, 03:16:12 PM
Dickson 89:62
I was hoping you'd pop up meow. What's the go with Ross? Averaging 27possies a game, going at 76% DE, 5.2 tackles a game, 4 clearances a game... only 2.6 clangers, only 2 Frees Against all year, Kicks more than he handballs. Is it the lack of contested footy?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on April 28, 2016, 04:12:01 PM
Jack Steven always has a pretty trash ratio - 111:99 this year - but Ross has outdone him.

So frustrating when they're in your SC side. You check match day FF, get stoked that they're at the top only for the SC scores to come in and have 20 points less ::)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on April 28, 2016, 04:27:05 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on April 28, 2016, 04:12:01 PM
Jack Steven always has a pretty trash ratio - 111:99 this year - but Ross has outdone him.

So frustrating when they're in your SC side. You check match day FF, get stoked that they're at the top only for the SC scores to come in and have 20 points less ::)

Haha I hate this feeling, hence why I try steer clear of those types of players in SC. Main reason I justified to myself leaving Stef out of my SC even though he was in every DT format :P

The Ross one is a doozy though, seems to be doing everything right. Must have nailed someone's daughter who works on the SC scoring panel lol
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on April 28, 2016, 04:27:53 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on April 28, 2016, 04:12:01 PM
So frustrating when they're in your SC side. You check match day FF, get stoked that they're at the top only for the SC scores to come in and have 20 points less ::)
haha tell me about it. Don't have him in normal SC but Seb's 119DT for a lousy 79SC  in RD1 was a prime example
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on April 28, 2016, 04:32:37 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 28, 2016, 04:27:05 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on April 28, 2016, 04:12:01 PM
Jack Steven always has a pretty trash ratio - 111:99 this year - but Ross has outdone him.

So frustrating when they're in your SC side. You check match day FF, get stoked that they're at the top only for the SC scores to come in and have 20 points less ::)

Haha I hate this feeling, hence why I try steer clear of those types of players in SC. Main reason I justified to myself leaving Stef out of my SC even though he was in every DT format :P

Thats why I love Rance 78:105

once last year i saw he was on 40 DT and was like you spud but then I saw he put up 90 SC.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on April 28, 2016, 04:58:54 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 28, 2016, 04:32:37 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 28, 2016, 04:27:05 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on April 28, 2016, 04:12:01 PM
Jack Steven always has a pretty trash ratio - 111:99 this year - but Ross has outdone him.

So frustrating when they're in your SC side. You check match day FF, get stoked that they're at the top only for the SC scores to come in and have 20 points less ::)

Haha I hate this feeling, hence why I try steer clear of those types of players in SC. Main reason I justified to myself leaving Stef out of my SC even though he was in every DT format :P

Thats why I love Rance 78:105

once last year i saw he was on 40 DT and was like you spud but then I saw he put up 90 SC.

Yep he's a good one too. Nic Nat is generally another solid example although he's pretty consistent in DT too these days
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on April 28, 2016, 05:00:23 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 28, 2016, 04:58:54 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 28, 2016, 04:32:37 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 28, 2016, 04:27:05 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on April 28, 2016, 04:12:01 PM
Jack Steven always has a pretty trash ratio - 111:99 this year - but Ross has outdone him.

So frustrating when they're in your SC side. You check match day FF, get stoked that they're at the top only for the SC scores to come in and have 20 points less ::)

Haha I hate this feeling, hence why I try steer clear of those types of players in SC. Main reason I justified to myself leaving Stef out of my SC even though he was in every DT format :P

Thats why I love Rance 78:105

once last year i saw he was on 40 DT and was like you spud but then I saw he put up 90 SC.

Yep he's a good one too. Nic Nat is generally another solid example although he's pretty consistent in DT too these days
Phil Davis has been good for us. 58DT for 82SC
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on April 28, 2016, 05:00:57 PM
Danger  8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on April 28, 2016, 05:02:26 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 28, 2016, 04:32:37 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 28, 2016, 04:27:05 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on April 28, 2016, 04:12:01 PM
Jack Steven always has a pretty trash ratio - 111:99 this year - but Ross has outdone him.

So frustrating when they're in your SC side. You check match day FF, get stoked that they're at the top only for the SC scores to come in and have 20 points less ::)

Haha I hate this feeling, hence why I try steer clear of those types of players in SC. Main reason I justified to myself leaving Stef out of my SC even though he was in every DT format :P

Thats why I love Rance 78:105

once last year i saw he was on 40 DT and was like you spud but then I saw he put up 90 SC.
I swear Rance actually gets points for nothing haha.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on April 28, 2016, 05:04:19 PM
How many points did he get for Richmond hitting Watts?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on April 28, 2016, 06:13:15 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on April 28, 2016, 05:02:26 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 28, 2016, 04:32:37 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 28, 2016, 04:27:05 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on April 28, 2016, 04:12:01 PM
Jack Steven always has a pretty trash ratio - 111:99 this year - but Ross has outdone him.

So frustrating when they're in your SC side. You check match day FF, get stoked that they're at the top only for the SC scores to come in and have 20 points less ::)

Haha I hate this feeling, hence why I try steer clear of those types of players in SC. Main reason I justified to myself leaving Stef out of my SC even though he was in every DT format :P

Thats why I love Rance 78:105

once last year i saw he was on 40 DT and was like you spud but then I saw he put up 90 SC.
I swear Rance actually gets points for nothing haha.

he gets points for stuff that isnt counted in DT

when he gets these he sky rockets in SC while on going up in DT a little

Intercept contested mark: 8 points
Intercept possession: 4.5 points

These make his SC go up without any DT points.
Spoil: 2 points
Shepherd: 1.5 points

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on April 28, 2016, 07:04:00 PM
I have seen only 1 Saints game this year and Ross didn't do much. I'm guessing he gets a lot of uncontested possession and can't kick. Jack Steven is an abysmal kick so that explains his discrepancy. Possessions won inside the arcs are worth more and I don't think Ross ventures there very often either.

Those scores are incorrect btw Holz. Spoil is worth 1, spoil to a teammate gathering possession is worth 3. Shepherd is worth 1 but CD pick and choose when to award it, same as mark on lead 3 vs uncontested mark 1. Intercept contested mark is worth 5 around the ground, 6 inside defensive 50.

Ross averages 5 tackles so there's 5 less in SC straight up. 3 marks and I'm guessing not many contested or Intercept (9 DT vs 3 SC). A couple of backwards kicks (3 DT vs 1 SC) and there you have it.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 28, 2016, 09:47:45 PM
Where can I find the rules for attacking etc.  Rules page only has details for resting only
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 28, 2016, 09:49:21 PM
Quote from: Ringo on April 28, 2016, 09:47:45 PM
Where can I find the rules for attacking etc.  Rules page only has details for resting only

3. You must select 4 defenders, 4 midfielders, 4 forwards, 1 ruckman and 2 additional players from any position, along with 3 emergency players.

      3a. Three times a year, a coach can implement the 'Flood' strategy, where they can play 5 defenders and 3 forwards. This has to be nominated before the round starts. Can not be used in finals.

      3b. Three times a year, a coach can implement the 'Attack' strategy, where they can play 3 defenders and 5 forwards. This has to be nominated before the round starts. Can not be used in finals.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 28, 2016, 09:58:44 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 28, 2016, 09:49:21 PM
Quote from: Ringo on April 28, 2016, 09:47:45 PM
Where can I find the rules for attacking etc.  Rules page only has details for resting only

3. You must select 4 defenders, 4 midfielders, 4 forwards, 1 ruckman and 2 additional players from any position, along with 3 emergency players.

      3a. Three times a year, a coach can implement the 'Flood' strategy, where they can play 5 defenders and 3 forwards. This has to be nominated before the round starts. Can not be used in finals.

      3b. Three times a year, a coach can implement the 'Attack' strategy, where they can play 3 defenders and 5 forwards. This has to be nominated before the round starts. Can not be used in finals.
Seen that but was looking at the scoring effect.  When implemented I had in my head there were some bonuses and penalties involved and that was what I was looking for.  May be wrong though,
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 28, 2016, 10:02:42 PM
No bonuses as far as I'm aware

10% bonus for resting players is the only bonus I'm aware of
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on April 28, 2016, 10:19:33 PM
Quote from: Ringo on April 28, 2016, 09:58:44 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 28, 2016, 09:49:21 PM
Quote from: Ringo on April 28, 2016, 09:47:45 PM
Where can I find the rules for attacking etc.  Rules page only has details for resting only

3. You must select 4 defenders, 4 midfielders, 4 forwards, 1 ruckman and 2 additional players from any position, along with 3 emergency players.

      3a. Three times a year, a coach can implement the 'Flood' strategy, where they can play 5 defenders and 3 forwards. This has to be nominated before the round starts. Can not be used in finals.

      3b. Three times a year, a coach can implement the 'Attack' strategy, where they can play 3 defenders and 5 forwards. This has to be nominated before the round starts. Can not be used in finals.
Seen that but was looking at the scoring effect.  When implemented I had in my head there were some bonuses and penalties involved and that was what I was looking for.  May be wrong though,

We discussed that as a potential rule (which I still want but nobody else is game :P)

But yeah, the only bonuses are C, CC, HA & Resting, whilst the penalties are OOP, late inclusion and numerous non-submission of teams.



Jack Steven annoys me to no end about that >:( I always live in hope he can replicate 2013 where he averaged 110.



If someone can give me all the DT scores, I'd be happy to look at who has the worst/best conversion. Otherwise, I ain't recording a further 5 x 396 = 1980 player scores :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on May 03, 2016, 12:59:47 PM
Can I promote someone to my leadership group? Sandi is still out for ages, Griff has a broken back, Joey is playing shower, after an unmaintainable start Mitchell scores 85-90 from 32 touches. It's Boyd or nothing for Christchurch while Koby is on fire and Gibbs is great every second week.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on May 03, 2016, 01:48:08 PM
Poor Pacific can't take a trick at the moment! First Suckers, now both Devon and Laird.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on May 03, 2016, 01:51:11 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on May 03, 2016, 01:48:08 PM
Poor Pacific can't take a trick at the moment! First Suckers, now both Devon and Laird.
Lee Spurr at D1 is something I will not enjoy.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on May 03, 2016, 02:17:56 PM
Quote from: meow meow on May 03, 2016, 12:59:47 PM
Can I promote someone to my leadership group? Sandi is still out for ages, Griff has a broken back, Joey is playing shower, after an unmaintainable start Mitchell scores 85-90 from 32 touches. It's Boyd or nothing for Christchurch while Koby is on fire and Gibbs is great every second week.

New York probably had a more valid argument than this :P

You could have promoted someone for Sandi when he first got injured... but seeing as he is now listed as 4-5 weeks away (not the required 6), that opportunity has been missed.

Besides, you have ONE player averaging more than 100 in your entire list and he's already in the leadership group  :P. Who could possibly be a better option then your current leaders? :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on May 03, 2016, 02:29:22 PM
Can I change my team name at least? The Christchurch Oppressed has a nice ring to it.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on May 03, 2016, 02:34:57 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on May 03, 2016, 01:48:08 PM
Poor Pacific can't take a trick at the moment! First Suckers, now both Devon and Laird.

from a SC perspective laird out would be nice, sorry Jay
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jukes on May 03, 2016, 02:35:29 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on May 03, 2016, 01:48:08 PM
Poor Pacific can't take a trick at the moment! First Suckers, now both Devon and Laird.

Heppell, Hooker, Gray, O'Meara, Sheed, Scharenberg, May, and Monfries missing here so shhhhh
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on May 03, 2016, 02:39:12 PM
Fyfe and that increasingly annoying Brad Crouch  >:(

Along with Michael Johnson and Michael Hibberd.

But yeah, Moscow wins.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on May 03, 2016, 02:43:10 PM
You cant count Scharenburg when you traded him in knowing his knee was cooked.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on May 03, 2016, 02:47:58 PM
Jobe Watson: out the whole season
Bob Murphy: Probably out for the season
Tom Mcdonald: 95 to 74 drop in average
David Mundy: 113 down to 81 missed 3 games
Travis Boak: 99 average down to 88
Josh Bruce: 68 average down to 56

in saying that Walters and SJ for yarran and jetta were epic fails.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on May 03, 2016, 04:13:33 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 03, 2016, 02:47:58 PM
Jobe Watson: out the whole season
Bob Murphy: Probably out for the season
Tom Mcdonald: 95 to 74 drop in average
David Mundy: 113 down to 81 missed 3 games
Travis Boak: 99 average down to 88
Josh Bruce: 68 average down to 56

in saying that Walters and SJ for yarran and jetta were epic fails.

Can it be that I finally figured out Holz in trade talks? :P

Lewis Jetta will rebound anyway. Trade him back to me if you don't want him  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on May 03, 2016, 04:16:46 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on May 03, 2016, 04:13:33 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 03, 2016, 02:47:58 PM
Jobe Watson: out the whole season
Bob Murphy: Probably out for the season
Tom Mcdonald: 95 to 74 drop in average
David Mundy: 113 down to 81 missed 3 games
Travis Boak: 99 average down to 88
Josh Bruce: 68 average down to 56

in saying that Walters and SJ for yarran and jetta were epic fails.

Can it be that I finally figured out Holz in trade talks? :P

Lewis Jetta will rebound anyway. Trade him back to me if you don't want him  ;)
nah jetta still good for me long term. the punt was he would play HFF or HBF annoyingly he looks to be playing wing so shouldnt get dpp.

If he got D/M status i would be laughing.

SJ isnt a spud though, cant believe how much he got talked down. basically the only thing that has gone good for Berlin. i reckon he has 2-3 years of 90 in him, could actually win a flag with GWS.

if you worked me out trade with me this year :P

Crouch Fyfe must be big headaches, ill handle them for you.







Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on May 03, 2016, 08:55:29 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 03, 2016, 04:16:46 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on May 03, 2016, 04:13:33 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 03, 2016, 02:47:58 PM
Jobe Watson: out the whole season
Bob Murphy: Probably out for the season
Tom Mcdonald: 95 to 74 drop in average
David Mundy: 113 down to 81 missed 3 games
Travis Boak: 99 average down to 88
Josh Bruce: 68 average down to 56

in saying that Walters and SJ for yarran and jetta were epic fails.

Can it be that I finally figured out Holz in trade talks? :P

Lewis Jetta will rebound anyway. Trade him back to me if you don't want him  ;)
nah jetta still good for me long term. the punt was he would play HFF or HBF annoyingly he looks to be playing wing so shouldnt get dpp.

If he got D/M status i would be laughing.

SJ isnt a spud though, cant believe how much he got talked down. basically the only thing that has gone good for Berlin. i reckon he has 2-3 years of 90 in him, could actually win a flag with GWS.

if you worked me out trade with me this year :P

Crouch Fyfe must be big headaches, ill handle them for you.

Haha, my current feelings on Crouch will change as soon as he pumps out regular hundreds  ;) whereas Fyfe is the key to my success  8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on May 03, 2016, 09:08:47 PM
A week or two ago a few of the coaches were having a conversation about which players got scaled up and down the most. I did a bit of digging a came up with the following:

Players who get scaled UP the most:
1: Steven May 54.8 DT for 84.2 SC   ( +29.4 )
2: Daniel Merrett 37.6 DT for 65.2 SC   ( +27.6 )
3: Alex Rance 78.2 DT for 105.4 SC   ( +27.2 )
4: Nic Naitanui 93.5 DT for 117.8 SC   ( +24.3 )
5: Callan Ward 94.7 DT for 117.8 SC   ( +23.1 )
6: Scott Thompson(NM) 63 DT for 85.8 SC   ( +22.8 )
7: Patrick Dangerfield 108.2 DT for 128.8 SC   ( +20.6 )
8: Max Gawn 98.7 DT for 118.8 SC   ( +20.1 )
9: Phil Davis 51.5 DT for 71.5 SC   ( +20 )
10: Shane Mumford 78.2 DT for 98.2 SC   ( +20 )



Players who get scaled DOWN the most:
1: Sebastian Ross 102.3 DT for 86.5 SC   ( -15.8 )
2: Caleb Daniel 97.8 DT for 84.2 SC   ( -13.6 )
3: Matthew Stokes 79.7 DT for 66.3 SC   ( -13.4 )
4: Levi Greenwood 87.5 DT for 76.3 SC   ( -11.2 )
5: Matthew Lobbe 72 DT for 61 SC   ( -11 )
6: Sam Gray 79.2 DT for 68.3 SC   ( -10.9 )
7: Jack Steele 79 DT for 68.2 SC   ( -10.8 )
8: Zachary Merrett 112.3 DT for 101.7 SC   ( -10.6 )
9: Hamish Hartlett 83.5 DT for 73.2 SC   ( -10.3 )
10: Jackson Merrett 69.3 DT for 59 SC   ( -10.3 )

Corey Gault, Liam Shiels, Matthew Goodyear all have -16 but weren't included due to minimal games played.

Seb Ross is indeed the most scaled down player. Also I must say that it is an outrage that Sir Daniel is on that list.

I'll also take requests if people have any :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on May 03, 2016, 09:19:23 PM
Moscow have owned 3 out of that top 5 scaled up.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on May 03, 2016, 09:29:47 PM
Appreciate the effort that went into that - good work Levi :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on May 03, 2016, 10:03:32 PM
Very interesting stats Levi!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on May 03, 2016, 10:05:32 PM
Ah awesome, I love fun stats  8) appreciate the effort Levi!

I bloomin noticed Steven May is treated kind by SC, I was tempted to try and trade for him for a while because of it :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on May 03, 2016, 10:25:25 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on May 03, 2016, 10:05:32 PM
Ah awesome, I love fun stats  8) appreciate the effort Levi!

I bloomin noticed Steven May is treated kind by SC, I was tempted to try and trade for him for a while because of it :P
Fyfe? He's got that dodgy leg.  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on May 03, 2016, 11:44:18 PM
Quote from: Jukes on May 03, 2016, 02:35:29 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on May 03, 2016, 01:48:08 PM
Poor Pacific can't take a trick at the moment! First Suckers, now both Devon and Laird.

Heppell, Hooker, Gray, O'Meara, Sheed, Scharenberg, May, and Monfries missing here so shhhhh
Don't recruit drug cheats/injured blokes then :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on May 03, 2016, 11:47:07 PM
Nice work Levi!

Oh well, hopefully one day Ross can balance that ratio up
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on May 04, 2016, 09:48:38 AM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on May 03, 2016, 09:19:23 PM
Moscow have owned 3 out of that top 5 scaled up.

You're welcome.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on May 04, 2016, 01:23:58 PM
Its time to start worrying everyone.

The Hawks estimate Roughead, who had the posterior cruciate ligament in his knee reconstructed in February, is around six weeks away from being available to play.

Surely Chris Yarran isnt too far away either.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on May 04, 2016, 05:37:32 PM
Purps, can we get a thread created that has each rounds results in the OP?

Would be much easier than having to go through each weekly thread to see previous scores
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on May 04, 2016, 05:45:55 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 04, 2016, 05:37:32 PM
Purps, can we get a thread created that has each rounds results in the OP?

Would be much easier than having to go through each weekly thread to see previous scores
This used to happen in the fixture thread from memory.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on May 04, 2016, 06:59:01 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 04, 2016, 05:37:32 PM
Purps, can we get a thread created that has each rounds results in the OP?

Would be much easier than having to go through each weekly thread to see previous scores

Funnily enough, the thought never occurred to me  :-X

I'm make up something presentable later tonight.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on May 04, 2016, 10:48:32 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 04, 2016, 05:37:32 PM
Purps, can we get a thread created that has each rounds results in the OP?

Would be much easier than having to go through each weekly thread to see previous scores

You can now find them in the OP in the newly renamed "WXV 2016 Fixture & Results" thread
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on May 04, 2016, 11:00:03 PM
Cheers Purps  :D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on May 04, 2016, 11:39:31 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 04, 2016, 11:00:03 PM
Cheers Purps  :D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: AaronKirk on May 09, 2016, 03:07:28 AM
So we play Dublin this week and Holz did rest Goldy last week.

I am hoping that North Melbourne have brains to realise that they don't need Goldy against Essendon and give him a spell.

Why risk him against a team they are going to smash when they are unbeaten on top of the table. It hurts my AF and DT but I am looking at the bigger picture here ;)

They may think the same thing about Waite though  :-\
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on May 09, 2016, 09:09:34 AM
Quote from: AaronKirk on May 09, 2016, 03:07:28 AM
So we play Dublin this week and Holz did rest Goldy last week.

That's the funny part, they didn't even rest him :P

But I guess Rance comes back in for them, which isn't ideal for the Revs!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on May 09, 2016, 10:18:52 AM
Yeah he wasn't rested AK, just omitted

Dublin and Rio in the next 2 weeks, so I expect to lose these two (but we won't make it too easy for them!) so we should slide down the ladder, but we've expected this and plan on storming home after this 2 week mare and try to finish Top 4
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on May 09, 2016, 12:35:11 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 09, 2016, 10:18:52 AM
Yeah he wasn't rested AK, just omitted

Dublin and Rio in the next 2 weeks, so I expect to lose these two (but we won't make it too easy for them!) so we should slide down the ladder, but we've expected this and plan on storming home after this 2 week mare and try to finish Top 4

General Soreness is the AFL term for resting. He was obviously rested im not going to drop my best player for no reason.

I dont need the 10% bonus though. Except for going for top scoring. Incidentally resting him cost me the score of the round. 



Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on May 09, 2016, 12:40:53 PM
Would be hilarious if we somehow win and the difference is you not resting Goldy so the 10% costs you the win Haha

Wishful thinking I know, but would be good!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on May 09, 2016, 01:24:32 PM

Seems to me it would either be resting or tanking, I'd wager Holz using 'general soreness' means rested.

But, you know, should state it clearly lol
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on May 09, 2016, 01:39:32 PM
After conversing with Holz, and;
- the fact that it was Goldstein
- that I believe him that he was trying to put a humorous spin on it
- that it makes ZERO sense to drop him

Then yeah, I'll count it has him being rested.

But please, make sure you state it clearly next time Holz  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on May 09, 2016, 01:45:36 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on May 09, 2016, 01:39:32 PM
After conversing with Holz, and;
- the fact that it was Goldstein
- that I believe him that he was trying to put a humorous spin on it
- that it makes ZERO sense to drop him

Then yeah, I'll count it has him being rested.

But please, make sure you state it clearly next time Holz  :P

thanks Purp, will be more clear in the future.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on May 09, 2016, 01:57:39 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on May 09, 2016, 01:24:32 PM

Seems to me it would either be resting or tanking, I'd wager Holz using 'general soreness' means rested.

But, you know, should state it clearly lol

I reckon Dublin has had the most tanking accusations of any team. funny given my standing.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on May 09, 2016, 02:08:57 PM
Tanked first season for draft picks  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on May 09, 2016, 02:26:10 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 09, 2016, 01:57:39 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on May 09, 2016, 01:24:32 PM

Seems to me it would either be resting or tanking, I'd wager Holz using 'general soreness' means rested.

But, you know, should state it clearly lol

I reckon Dublin has had the most tanking accusations of any team. funny given my standing.

Well maybe, except for that one time in 2014...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on May 09, 2016, 02:40:27 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on May 09, 2016, 02:08:57 PM
Tanked first season for draft picks  :P

back then it was

#nomummynodublin
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on May 09, 2016, 03:01:52 PM
So now Goldy gets 10% extra vs us this week?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on May 09, 2016, 03:07:56 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on May 09, 2016, 01:39:32 PM
After conversing with Holz, and;
- the fact that it was Goldstein
- that I believe him that he was trying to put a humorous spin on it
- that it makes ZERO sense to drop him

Then yeah, I'll count it has him being rested.

But please, make sure you state it clearly next time Holz  :P

what about that time i named Newnes twice but one of them was meant to be Kelly and you believed me but i still had to cop Kelly in the ressies!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on May 09, 2016, 03:10:09 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on May 09, 2016, 03:07:56 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on May 09, 2016, 01:39:32 PM
After conversing with Holz, and;
- the fact that it was Goldstein
- that I believe him that he was trying to put a humorous spin on it
- that it makes ZERO sense to drop him

Then yeah, I'll count it has him being rested.

But please, make sure you state it clearly next time Holz  :P


what about that time i named Newnes twice but one of them was meant to be Kelly and you believed me but i still had to cop Kelly in the ressies!

isnt there a big difference in making a mistake and intentionally resting someone and calling it general soreness (A.K.A Resting) rather then the comp specific term.

I would have thougt there is .

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on May 09, 2016, 03:13:09 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 09, 2016, 03:10:09 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on May 09, 2016, 03:07:56 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on May 09, 2016, 01:39:32 PM
After conversing with Holz, and;
- the fact that it was Goldstein
- that I believe him that he was trying to put a humorous spin on it
- that it makes ZERO sense to drop him

Then yeah, I'll count it has him being rested.

But please, make sure you state it clearly next time Holz  :P


what about that time i named Newnes twice but one of them was meant to be Kelly and you believed me but i still had to cop Kelly in the ressies!

isnt there a big difference in making a mistake and intentionally resting someone and calling it general soreness (A.K.A Resting) rather then the comp specific term.

I would have thougt there is .

Nope you made a mistake by typing the wrong word, so did i!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 09, 2016, 03:16:43 PM
think jbs is making a valid argument actually

you cant punish someone for making a mistake and not punish someone else

who thinks naming a team is meant to be funny anyway
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on May 09, 2016, 03:19:54 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on May 09, 2016, 03:13:09 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 09, 2016, 03:10:09 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on May 09, 2016, 03:07:56 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on May 09, 2016, 01:39:32 PM
After conversing with Holz, and;
- the fact that it was Goldstein
- that I believe him that he was trying to put a humorous spin on it
- that it makes ZERO sense to drop him

Then yeah, I'll count it has him being rested.

But please, make sure you state it clearly next time Holz  :P


what about that time i named Newnes twice but one of them was meant to be Kelly and you believed me but i still had to cop Kelly in the ressies!

isnt there a big difference in making a mistake and intentionally resting someone and calling it general soreness (A.K.A Resting) rather then the comp specific term.

I would have thougt there is .

Nope you made a mistake by typing the wrong word, so did i!

I didnt accident type the wrong word. I attempted to make my post realistic. By calling a resting, general soreness on a sperate line below my team announcement like i do every time i rest a player.

by the way i have been caught out the same way you have on the newnes thing.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on May 09, 2016, 03:22:15 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on May 09, 2016, 03:16:43 PM
think jbs is making a valid argument actually

you cant punish someone for making a mistake and not punish someone else

who thinks naming a team is meant to be funny anyway

it wasnt a mistake but anyway.

I personally like the fun of the competition where people take it soo seriously its like they are running their own afl squad.

If anyone actually thinks that Goldy wasnt rested then ill happily take back the 10% bonus, but I doubt anyone will as its basically as obvious as can be.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on May 09, 2016, 03:24:37 PM

Either way, if the game is decided by 10% of Goldstein's score, never hear the end of it!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: AaronKirk on May 09, 2016, 03:33:50 PM
Of course Goldy was rested.

It would be stupid just to drop him for no real reason.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on May 09, 2016, 03:34:33 PM
I know that it won't change much and we will still lose, but I am calling BS on Goldy getting 10% resting bonus vs us

"He is listed as general soreness but rumors are he could be dropped."

That's Holz dropping Goldy for the 49 he put up, and he knew he could drop him because he has Currie, was always going to win that week, and Holz loves showing off/being arrogant because of how good his side is. No one else could ever drop a player like Goldy but he can

He was not rested, he was arrogantly dropped just to show off and make a point and now for that he should not be getting the resting bonus

Like I said, we will still lose anyway, but come on Holz you know you dropped him just to show off that you can, and have since realised you made a mistake by not resting him. Your Dublin ego got the better of you and caused the oversight ;)

Quote from: AaronKirk on May 09, 2016, 03:33:50 PM
Of course Goldy was rested.

It would be stupid just to drop him for no real reason.

The real reason is "because he can"

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on May 09, 2016, 03:42:11 PM
^ Pretty well summed up.

If I was NY and the result did come down to the resting bonus even though it was never formally stated, I'd be salty.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on May 09, 2016, 03:46:29 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on May 09, 2016, 03:07:56 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on May 09, 2016, 01:39:32 PM
After conversing with Holz, and;
- the fact that it was Goldstein
- that I believe him that he was trying to put a humorous spin on it
- that it makes ZERO sense to drop him

Then yeah, I'll count it has him being rested.

But please, make sure you state it clearly next time Holz  :P

what about that time i named Newnes twice but one of them was meant to be Kelly and you believed me but i still had to cop Kelly in the ressies!

Yeah, valid point. But the difference here is that Holz at least alluded to Goldstein being rested as "general soreness" (because that's how the AFL rests their players).

But like that match, I doubt it'll make a difference.

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 09, 2016, 03:34:33 PM
I know that it won't change much and we will still lose, but I am calling BS on Goldy getting 10% resting bonus vs us

"He is listed as general soreness but rumors are he could be dropped."

That's Holz dropping Goldy for the 49 he put up, and he knew he could drop him because he has Currie, was always going to win that week, and Holz loves showing off/being arrogant because of how good his side is. No one else could ever drop a player like Goldy but he can

He was not rested, he was arrogantly dropped just to show off and make a point and now for that he should not be getting the resting bonus

Like I said, we will still lose anyway, but come on Holz you know you dropped him just to show off that you can, and have since realised you made a mistake by not resting him. Your Dublin ego got the better of you and caused the oversight ;)

Quote from: AaronKirk on May 09, 2016, 03:33:50 PM
Of course Goldy was rested.

It would be stupid just to drop him for no real reason.

The real reason is "because he can"


Not gonna lie, that was my first thought too. But I see what Holz was trying to do and I don't think he'd to try as scrounge up a rest bonus if he believed he didn't deserve it.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on May 09, 2016, 03:55:50 PM
Ha as if Holz was dropping Goldy! He likes to stir the pot but he's not going drop Goldy when Team/Coach of the week is on the line

It was obvious it was resting
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on May 09, 2016, 04:01:50 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 09, 2016, 03:34:33 PM
I know that it won't change much and we will still lose, but I am calling BS on Goldy getting 10% resting bonus vs us

"He is listed as general soreness but rumors are he could be dropped."

That's Holz dropping Goldy for the 49 he put up, and he knew he could drop him because he has Currie, was always going to win that week, and Holz loves showing off/being arrogant because of how good his side is. No one else could ever drop a player like Goldy but he can

He was not rested, he was arrogantly dropped just to show off and make a point and now for that he should not be getting the resting bonus

Like I said, we will still lose anyway, but come on Holz you know you dropped him just to show off that you can, and have since realised you made a mistake by not resting him. Your Dublin ego got the better of you and caused the oversight ;)

Quote from: AaronKirk on May 09, 2016, 03:33:50 PM
Of course Goldy was rested.

It would be stupid just to drop him for no real reason.

The real reason is "because he can"

I like to play the villain abit but even im not arrogant enough to purposely drop a player to just say look how good i am, thats completely disrespectful to Capetown.

you can call me a bragger, super ego or whatever but i wouldn't do something disrespectful. The resting improves my squad this week in what I think is a tougher match up and also increases my chances of getting a team of the week which i care about.

If you think i dropped a player with no reason then thats tanking and is a serious offence.

Rico is correct, team of the week means alot to me. Thats my ego coming into play.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on May 09, 2016, 05:41:50 PM
Fair comments Holz - appreciate it

It's not something I am going to push because I believe you, but I think it was worth mentioning

Just remember to actually state that you're resting a player next time :)

Do us a favour though - rest Jelly this week please  ;)

And watch out, we rested TMac last week....  :-X
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on May 09, 2016, 05:51:38 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 09, 2016, 05:41:50 PM
Fair comments Holz - appreciate it

It's not something I am going to push because I believe you, but I think it was worth mentioning

Just remember to actually state that you're resting a player next time :)

Do us a favour though - rest Jelly this week please  ;)

And watch out, we rested TMac last week....  :-X

nah im coming for you this week :P

coming in full strength, New York away from Crooke park is a danger game

Houli can pull 50-150
Gibson is the same

Mundy is good just been injured
Waite could go huge against essendon


Im not taking any risks this week


Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on May 09, 2016, 06:03:11 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 09, 2016, 05:51:38 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 09, 2016, 05:41:50 PM
Fair comments Holz - appreciate it

It's not something I am going to push because I believe you, but I think it was worth mentioning

Just remember to actually state that you're resting a player next time :)

Do us a favour though - rest Jelly this week please  ;)

And watch out, we rested TMac last week....  :-X

nah im coming for you this week :P

coming in full strength, New York away from Crooke park is a danger game

Houli can pull 50-150
Gibson is the same

Mundy is good just been injured
Waite could go huge against essendon


Im not taking any risks this week

I'm sure Lewis Jetta could ton...

Baha, I can't even finish that sentence ;D  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on May 09, 2016, 06:06:39 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on May 09, 2016, 06:03:11 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 09, 2016, 05:51:38 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 09, 2016, 05:41:50 PM
Fair comments Holz - appreciate it

It's not something I am going to push because I believe you, but I think it was worth mentioning

Just remember to actually state that you're resting a player next time :)

Do us a favour though - rest Jelly this week please  ;)

And watch out, we rested TMac last week....  :-X

nah im coming for you this week :P

coming in full strength, New York away from Crooke park is a danger game

Houli can pull 50-150
Gibson is the same

Mundy is good just been injured
Waite could go huge against essendon


Im not taking any risks this week

I'm sure Lewis Jetta could ton...

Baha, I can't even finish that sentence ;D  :P

we dont talk about lewis jetta

now he is probably getting dropped, not rested.

Dan Currie will take over.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on May 10, 2016, 12:37:13 AM
I totally rested Jeff Garlett last week and I fully expect the 10% bonus even though I simply said he was dropped. It wouldn't make sense to drop him. It was just for the lolz.

Why the flower can't I promote Gibbs to the leadership group? I had the choice out of 2 players last week. Griff was listed as 6 weeks with a back injury but got denied because apparently I don't have anyone worthy of promoting.

Where's my compo?

The points cap is a joke.

Don't trade with Holz.

Gibbs> Rocky

etc...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 10, 2016, 07:10:42 AM
Quote from: AaronKirk on May 09, 2016, 03:33:50 PM
Of course Goldy was rested.

It would be stupid just to drop him for no real reason.

but we can say of course we meant to name Kelly instead of Newnes twice
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on May 10, 2016, 09:14:46 AM
With injuries and unexpected form/breakouts I think there will be a few teams suggesting we dump the leadership group rule next year

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: AaronKirk on May 10, 2016, 10:16:36 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on May 10, 2016, 07:10:42 AM
Quote from: AaronKirk on May 09, 2016, 03:33:50 PM
Of course Goldy was rested.

It would be stupid just to drop him for no real reason.

but we can say of course we meant to name Kelly instead of Newnes twice

When did this happen KB? I haven't been following these things as intently this year.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on May 10, 2016, 10:18:45 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on May 10, 2016, 07:10:42 AM
Quote from: AaronKirk on May 09, 2016, 03:33:50 PM
Of course Goldy was rested.

It would be stupid just to drop him for no real reason.

but we can say of course we meant to name Kelly instead of Newnes twice

I really hope you notice the difference and are just trying to make some point.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 10, 2016, 10:32:45 AM
Quote from: AaronKirk on May 10, 2016, 10:16:36 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on May 10, 2016, 07:10:42 AM
Quote from: AaronKirk on May 09, 2016, 03:33:50 PM
Of course Goldy was rested.

It would be stupid just to drop him for no real reason.

but we can say of course we meant to name Kelly instead of Newnes twice

When did this happen KB? I haven't been following these things as intently this year.

not sure which round but jbs names Newnes twice by accident and had to take 1st emergencies score

i guess my point where i'm a bit annoyed is how purps said he believed Holz why didn't he believe jbs and use Kelly's score instead?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on May 10, 2016, 10:40:30 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on May 10, 2016, 10:32:45 AM
Quote from: AaronKirk on May 10, 2016, 10:16:36 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on May 10, 2016, 07:10:42 AM
Quote from: AaronKirk on May 09, 2016, 03:33:50 PM
Of course Goldy was rested.

It would be stupid just to drop him for no real reason.

but we can say of course we meant to name Kelly instead of Newnes twice

When did this happen KB? I haven't been following these things as intently this year.

not sure which round but jbs names Newnes twice by accident and had to take 1st emergencies score

i guess my point where i'm a bit annoyed is how purps said he believed Holz why didn't he believe jbs and use Kelly's score instead?

because naming Newnes twice is an error in naming your team, plus you could have named other players instead of Kelly. So you tried to name kelly and made a mistake like lots of others have done and something i have done.

I rested Goldy and called it General Soreness instead of Rested. When 99.9% of people know that General Soreness is codename for Rested. I made no mistake in my team selection I did what I wanted to do and rested Goldy in my typcial fashion of annocuning it a line below my team selection.

the week before I actually intended to make Goldy and Selwood CC but due to me being on autopilot I cut and copied my team and forgot to make the change. thats a mistake in team selection and it almost cost me the game.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on May 10, 2016, 10:51:05 AM
I've been 100% consistent when it comes to team submission errors, where the outcome has always been you have to live with it.

With Holz, it wasn't so much an error as it was poor communication. I mean, this is similar when a coach names a player with the same last name as someone else on their list and I have to guess whom they really mean (although easily deduced). You can see what their trying to do. With Holz, you could see what he was trying to do. When you name a player twice in a team, who knows what you're trying to do?

Even the statement of "Rumours is that he could be dropped" means that at the time of writing, he wasn't actually dropped.

Now I'm just repeating myself, meaning I have nothing more to add to this conversation.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on May 10, 2016, 10:54:11 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 10, 2016, 09:14:46 AM
With injuries and unexpected form/breakouts I think there will be a few teams suggesting we dump the leadership group rule next year
Honestly, its not that bad. You guys have just been super unlucky in some and poor choices in other games

Mundy back playing. It'll only get easier for you

RD7 - Went Houli and Duncan CC (94 and 57) - Lewis 104, Tippett 102, Duncan 94, Mundy 80
RD6 - Went Duncan Capt (98) - Houli 107, Tippett 101, Duncan 98, Mundy 82
RD5 - Went Lewis and Duncan CC (57 and 112) - Duncan 112
RD4 - Went Duncan Capt (75) - Lewis 117
RD3 - Went Lewis Capt (43) - Houli 144, Duncan 126
RD2 - Went Duncan Capt (25) - Houli 127, Lewis 115, Tippett 110 (pretty sure Duncan got cleaned up by Mummy this game)
RD1 - Went Mundy Capt (82) - Duncan 108, Lewis 108, Tippett 82, Mundy 82
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on May 10, 2016, 11:02:53 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on May 10, 2016, 10:54:11 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 10, 2016, 09:14:46 AM
With injuries and unexpected form/breakouts I think there will be a few teams suggesting we dump the leadership group rule next year
Honestly, its not that bad. You guys have just been super unlucky in some and poor choices in other games

Mundy back playing. It'll only get easier for you

RD7 - Went Houli and Duncan CC (94 and 57) - Lewis 104, Tippett 102, Duncan 94, Mundy 80
RD6 - Went Duncan Capt (98) - Houli 107, Tippett 101, Duncan 98, Mundy 82
RD5 - Went Lewis and Duncan CC (57 and 112) - Duncan 112
RD4 - Went Duncan Capt (75) - Lewis 117
RD3 - Went Lewis Capt (43) - Houli 144, Duncan 126
RD2 - Went Duncan Capt (25) - Houli 127, Lewis 115, Tippett 110 (pretty sure Duncan got cleaned up by Mummy this game)
RD1 - Went Mundy Capt (82) - Duncan 108, Lewis 108, Tippett 82, Mundy 82

Can we just make a new rule that whoever is your highest scoring player for the round has their points doubled? :P

Would make things a lot easier for us!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on May 11, 2016, 11:06:38 AM
Well, we're not gonna get our best XV on the park this season after all.

Missy's gone for 3 months. Meniscus tear. Surgery.  :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on May 11, 2016, 11:45:57 AM
Quote from: Nige on May 11, 2016, 11:06:38 AM
Well, we're not gonna get our best XV on the park this season after all.

Missy's gone for 3 months. Meniscus tear. Surgery.  :(

Ouch  :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on May 11, 2016, 01:54:58 PM
Overrated, injury prone trade bait that Shaun Higgins guy is.

We're not going to get our best XV on the park either. Jobe is even going to lose his Brownlow to Sammy, making Mitchell the first man in history to win two Brownlow medals in the same year.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on May 17, 2016, 02:26:25 PM
Flower, Houli out for 12 weeks

So we get to add in a replacement to our leadership group for him soon don't we?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on May 17, 2016, 02:27:54 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 17, 2016, 02:26:25 PM
Flower, Houli out for 12 weeks

So we get to add in a replacement to our leadership group for him soon don't we?

You can do it now if you like :P

Quote
     19b. If a player in your leadership group suffers a long term injury, you are able to promote another player in their place. However, should that player recover, he will resume his place in the leadership group at the expense of his replacement.

But yeah, after Round 9 (upcoming round), every team will be allowed to review their leadership group for the first and FINAL time for the year.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on May 17, 2016, 03:15:47 PM
Roughead melonoma back :(

You gotta feel for the bloke. I hope its just cut it out and he is all good.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on May 17, 2016, 08:38:08 PM
Will put the match day thread up tomorrow morning instead of the usual Tuesday night this time around.

I can't be bothered doing it now  :-X
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on May 17, 2016, 10:40:23 PM
Not good enough Purps

Just not good enough
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on May 18, 2016, 12:02:23 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 17, 2016, 10:40:23 PM
Not good enough Purps

Just not good enough
(https://corinawrites.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/tumblr_lp5q4tffn71qhcw62o1_500.gif?w=551)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on May 18, 2016, 08:48:19 AM
Well we'll put Waite in our leadership group just for this week to replace Houli, and then next week we will name a new 5 man group for the second half of the season
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on May 18, 2016, 10:45:57 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 18, 2016, 08:48:19 AM
Well we'll put Waite in our leadership group just for this week to replace Houli, and then next week we will name a new 5 man group for the second half of the season

*whispers*

"Do it here (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,106095.0.html)"  ;)



And lol at that gif
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on May 18, 2016, 02:12:13 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 17, 2016, 10:40:23 PM
Not good enough Purps

Just not good enough

The shame.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on May 24, 2016, 10:22:18 AM
looks like Dubliner Sam Collins will get a call up to the AFL. For a team with no depth i go alright

A.Rance, G.Birchall, L.Hansen, J.Weitering, H.Schade, H.Grundy, O. Mcdonald, C.Byrne, N.Jetta, S.Collins all played an AFL game and still got Yarran as a possible in.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on May 24, 2016, 10:38:38 AM
Haha, yep that's a mighty impressive list of defenders haha  :P

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on May 24, 2016, 10:50:46 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 24, 2016, 10:38:38 AM
Haha, yep that's a mighty impressive list of defenders haha  :P

geez could i use some mids or forwards though.

I actually only had 4 forwards play last round.

going with 5 premo forwards is a good idea unless one is out indefinitely :(

at least Currie is a beast and can cover my U2. I knew keeping him this long would pay off. Serisouly though trade me some mids. Matt kennedy is a gun but tough to crack into GWS.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on May 24, 2016, 10:53:24 AM
Did I see somewhere that we can update our team lists this week as well as leadership groups?

Or was I just imagining that?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on May 24, 2016, 11:22:27 AM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on May 24, 2016, 10:53:24 AM
Did I see somewhere that we can update our team lists this week as well as leadership groups?

Or was I just imagining that?
There are threads for both.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on May 24, 2016, 11:43:02 AM
Quote from: Nige on May 24, 2016, 11:22:27 AM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on May 24, 2016, 10:53:24 AM
Did I see somewhere that we can update our team lists this week as well as leadership groups?

Or was I just imagining that?
There are threads for both.

Yup. I made posts in the places you can, but when I send my PM tonight, I'll direct everyone to the right places.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on May 24, 2016, 08:32:57 PM
Just had a MASSIVE roller coaster of emotions.

I was about 40 minutes into my previews, and my F*CKING COMPUTER CRASHED!

I just stared blankly into the screen for about 5 minutes. Absolutely devastated. All that work...

AW shower YEAH GOOGLE CHROME RESTORED MY FANFOOTY POST! That never happens! Proof of divine intervention!

WHOO!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on May 25, 2016, 11:40:28 AM
Hallelujah!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on May 30, 2016, 09:23:37 PM
After 10 rounds here's a rundown of the unavailability of Christchurch players.

B: Boyd, McVeigh, Reid, Wilson
M: Gibbs, Mitchell, Hartlett, Griffen
R: Sandilands
F: Montagna, Breust, Stringer, McLean
I: Watson, Stevens

Watson - 10 matches
Sandilands - 8
Griffen - 5
Stevens - 3
McVeigh - 3
Reid - 2
Hartlett - 2
Mitchell - 1
Boyd - 1

35 weeks missed from our best XV players. I'm sure there's others out there who have copped it worse. Sandi is our most important player so that 8 weeks hurts a lot. He was subbed off in one of his two games so it's really 9 missed. Losing a 96 averaging Griffen and replacing him with a guy who scores 70 isn't so bad, but having to replace 105 from Sandi with 50's sucks.



Depth injuries/not selected

Minson - 10
Trengove - 10
C. Smith - 10
Anderson - 9
McKernan - 8
Hoskin-Elliott - 8
Neal-Bullen - 8
McKenzie - 8
Vandenberg - 7
McKenna - 6
Blakely - 5
Dickson - 4
Cox - 4
Andrews - 3
Steele - 3
Garlett - 2
Ellis - 1

Some of these guys simply haven't been selected, some have been injured. Guys like WHE, McKernan and Vandenberg have been a combination of both. Trengove has played a lot of VFL and his return is imminent.



Played every game

Gibbs
Montagna
Breust
Stringer
Wilson
McLean
Roughead
GILBERT
Dempster
Lever
Lester
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on May 30, 2016, 09:46:37 PM
All that's missing from that post is a claim for compensation :P

Christchurch definitely is a unique team in Worlds, and with such depth and now obvious scope for improvement, will be a threat for the premiership, even if it doesn't look like it now IMO
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on May 31, 2016, 12:41:08 AM
We won't win the premiership. We'll be eliminated by Mexico City on the back of an inspired Tom Rockliff performance.

Compo you say? Feeling guilty about allowing a then 100 averaging 26 year old elite forward to be swapped for a 29 year old 90 averaging mediocre mid? This year has further proven just how horribly lopsided that trade was. 100 average forward is worth a 110 average mid of the same age, not one averaging just 90 and who is three years older! It's gotten worse since then too. Just let me trade one of my players for someone who's worth at least 20 points more while being three years younger and that's all the compo I'll require.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on May 31, 2016, 10:01:51 AM
Quote from: meow meow on May 31, 2016, 12:41:08 AM
We won't win the premiership. We'll be eliminated by Mexico City on the back of an inspired Tom Rockliff performance.

Compo you say? Feeling guilty about allowing a then 100 averaging 26 year old elite forward to be swapped for a 29 year old 90 averaging mediocre mid? This year has further proven just how horribly lopsided that trade was. 100 average forward is worth a 110 average mid of the same age, not one averaging just 90 and who is three years older! It's gotten worse since then too. Just let me trade one of my players for someone who's worth at least 20 points more while being three years younger and that's all the compo I'll require.

If you get boomer harvey then you might be able to pull off that trade for say enright.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on May 31, 2016, 10:19:21 AM
Quote from: Holz on May 31, 2016, 10:01:51 AM
Quote from: meow meow on May 31, 2016, 12:41:08 AM
We won't win the premiership. We'll be eliminated by Mexico City on the back of an inspired Tom Rockliff performance.

Compo you say? Feeling guilty about allowing a then 100 averaging 26 year old elite forward to be swapped for a 29 year old 90 averaging mediocre mid? This year has further proven just how horribly lopsided that trade was. 100 average forward is worth a 110 average mid of the same age, not one averaging just 90 and who is three years older! It's gotten worse since then too. Just let me trade one of my players for someone who's worth at least 20 points more while being three years younger and that's all the compo I'll require.

If you get boomer harvey then you might be able to pull off that trade for say enright.

Haha, brilliant
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on May 31, 2016, 11:24:45 AM
Please... Enright is the heart and soul of the reindeer backline.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on May 31, 2016, 06:25:38 PM
I love Dayne. Will he stay at 'Jing forever? Most probably. Do I feel bad that I nabbed him in a trade I'm clearly winning now? A little bit(not really). I could give you compo at the end of the year but then I'd need compo for the compo.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on May 31, 2016, 06:31:48 PM
Quote from: Toga on May 31, 2016, 06:25:38 PM
I love Dayne. Will he stay at 'Jing forever? Most probably. Do I feel bad that I nabbed him in a trade I'm clearly winning now? A little bit(not really). I could give you compo at the end of the year but then I'd need compo for the compo.
You've ripped everyone off.

*Cue a Cal Ward Rant*  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on May 31, 2016, 06:37:13 PM
Takes two to tango!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on May 31, 2016, 08:01:42 PM
Ada still remains the most evil trader I've ever dealt with :P

Although it probably wouldn't have ever happened (because Moscow won't let go of Hulk), the little deviant posed the hypothetical to me of Brayshaw + Hogan FOR Fyfe.

That's the most evil thing I've ever read.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on May 31, 2016, 08:26:13 PM
Oliver and Salem for fyfe and you have a deal!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on May 31, 2016, 08:56:15 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on May 31, 2016, 08:01:42 PM
Ada still remains the most evil trader I've ever dealt with :P

Although it probably wouldn't have ever happened (because Moscow won't let go of Hulk), the little deviant posed the hypothetical to me of Brayshaw + Hogan FOR Fyfe.

That's the most evil thing I've ever read.
If I offered you Hulk for Fyfe (In his Broken Leg state) would you take it?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on May 31, 2016, 09:16:56 PM
& Petracca... Look at all these young stars on offer >:D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Adamant on May 31, 2016, 09:20:21 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on May 31, 2016, 08:01:42 PM
Ada still remains the most evil trader I've ever dealt with :P

Although it probably wouldn't have ever happened (because Moscow won't let go of Hulk), the little deviant posed the hypothetical to me of Brayshaw + Hogan FOR Fyfe.

That's the most evil thing I've ever read.

Haha surely heart over head Purps. ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on May 31, 2016, 09:38:49 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on May 31, 2016, 08:56:15 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on May 31, 2016, 08:01:42 PM
Ada still remains the most evil trader I've ever dealt with :P

Although it probably wouldn't have ever happened (because Moscow won't let go of Hulk), the little deviant posed the hypothetical to me of Brayshaw + Hogan FOR Fyfe.

That's the most evil thing I've ever read.
If I offered you Hulk for Fyfe (In his Broken Leg state) would you take it?

I have cue cards prepared for whenever I have that thought.

I'll type it out now:

"Purple, for gods sake, Fyfe is the SC lovechild. Hogan is just your pretend lovechild. Get a grip"

Seriously though, I won't be trading Fyfe in the near future. Besides, I wouldn't want to give up Fyfe for a guy that could potentially wedge a dagger in my ribcage and then rage trade him for Zac Dawson.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on June 01, 2016, 06:07:36 PM
Moscow
Season 2012: 10 wins, 7 losses - 59%
Finals: 1 win, 1 loss - 50%
Total: 11 wins, 8 losses - 58%

Christchurch
Season 2015: 13 wins, 4 losses - 76%
Finals: 1 win, 1 loss - 50%
Total: 14 wins, 5 losses - 74%

Season 2016: 7 wins, 3 losses - 70%

meow meow: 32 wins, 16 losses - 67%

My form this year has been spot on. Win two, lose one.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on June 01, 2016, 06:19:15 PM
Even Moscow in 2013 went at 13/4 (76%) in the season then 0/2 in finals for a yearly winning percentage of 68%. I wasn't coach but it was 100% my list build.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on June 01, 2016, 06:36:52 PM
Dublin

2012 - 2/15 12%
2013 - 10/7 59%
2014 - 14/3 3/0 82% 100% - 85%
2015 - 16/1 2/1 94% 67% - 90%
2016 - 8/2 80%

Overall: 55/84 - 65%

#betterrecordthanHolz
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on June 01, 2016, 06:44:04 PM
A needed reminder that Holz is 8-2 this year, wouldn't have guessed it from the amount of whining that goes on :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on June 01, 2016, 09:18:27 PM
In my 4 years, I've finished 16th, 4th, 9th, 5th... I wouldn't really like to know what my winning % is  :-\

Love those stats btw meow
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on June 01, 2016, 09:54:32 PM

Seoul wins

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on June 01, 2016, 10:00:49 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 01, 2016, 09:18:27 PM
In my 4 years, I've finished 16th, 4th, 9th, 5th... I wouldn't really like to know what my winning % is  :-\

Love those stats btw meow

48% overall. 60% in finals though!

2012: 5-12 29%
2013: 10-7  2-1 59% 67% 60%
2014: 8-9 47%
2015: 10-7 1-1 59% 50% 58%
2016: 4-6 40%

40/83 48%
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on June 01, 2016, 10:07:03 PM
I dunno exactly what our winning % for finals is but I'm assuming it's at least 80%
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on June 01, 2016, 10:28:03 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 01, 2016, 09:18:27 PM
In my 4 years, I've finished 16th, 4th, 9th, 5th... I wouldn't really like to know what my winning % is  :-\

Love those stats btw meow
Lets just say better than mine, but worse than Daz's :P.

I'm fairly sure my winning percentage in Finals is 33% unless I'm forgetting games, if that's the case it'll probably be worse :P.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on June 01, 2016, 10:39:21 PM
Quote from: meow meow on June 01, 2016, 10:00:49 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 01, 2016, 09:18:27 PM
In my 4 years, I've finished 16th, 4th, 9th, 5th... I wouldn't really like to know what my winning % is  :-\

Love those stats btw meow

48% overall. 60% in finals though!

2012: 5-12 29%
2013: 10-7  2-1 59% 67% 60%
2014: 8-9 47%
2015: 10-7 1-1 59% 50% 58%
2016: 4-6 40%

40/83 48%

Huh, well there you go!



IIRC, I think Moscow has lost a semi final every single year  :-X
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 02, 2016, 10:13:36 AM
Dublin record is pretty amazing

2012: 2-15
2013: 10-7
2014: 14-3  Finals 3-0
2015: 16-1  Finals 2-1
2016: 8-2

Total: 50-28
Total with Finals 55-29

64% wins in home and away with 65.5% overall largely due to my first 1.5 seasons.
83% in finals im pretty happy with.

The scary stat is 43-7 is 86% in the last 3 years.

I want to be the first club to get to 100 H & A wins. I reckon that will require a moscow colapse. I reckon they would be about 60 wins. and about 70 in total
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on June 02, 2016, 10:22:16 AM
Quote from: Holz on June 02, 2016, 10:13:36 AM
Dublin record is pretty amazing

2012: 2-15
2013: 10-7
2014: 14-3  Finals 3-0
2015: 16-1  Finals 2-1
2016: 8-2

Total: 50-28
Total with Finals 55-29

64% wins in home and away with 65.5% overall largely due to my first 1.5 seasons.
83% in finals im pretty happy with.

The scary stat is 43-7 is 86% in the last 3 years.

I want to be the first club to get to 100 H & A wins. I reckon that will require a moscow colapse. I reckon they would be about 60 wins. and about 70 in total


Well, there is Mexico City too
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on June 02, 2016, 10:25:27 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 02, 2016, 10:22:16 AM
Quote from: Holz on June 02, 2016, 10:13:36 AM
Dublin record is pretty amazing

2012: 2-15
2013: 10-7
2014: 14-3  Finals 3-0
2015: 16-1  Finals 2-1
2016: 8-2

Total: 50-28
Total with Finals 55-29

64% wins in home and away with 65.5% overall largely due to my first 1.5 seasons.
83% in finals im pretty happy with.

The scary stat is 43-7 is 86% in the last 3 years.

I want to be the first club to get to 100 H & A wins. I reckon that will require a moscow colapse. I reckon they would be about 60 wins. and about 70 in total


Well, there is Mexico City too
And NDT
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 02, 2016, 10:35:03 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 02, 2016, 10:22:16 AM
Quote from: Holz on June 02, 2016, 10:13:36 AM
Dublin record is pretty amazing

2012: 2-15
2013: 10-7
2014: 14-3  Finals 3-0
2015: 16-1  Finals 2-1
2016: 8-2

Total: 50-28
Total with Finals 55-29

64% wins in home and away with 65.5% overall largely due to my first 1.5 seasons.
83% in finals im pretty happy with.

The scary stat is 43-7 is 86% in the last 3 years.

I want to be the first club to get to 100 H & A wins. I reckon that will require a moscow colapse. I reckon they would be about 60 wins. and about 70 in total


Well, there is Mexico City too
I meant Mexico.

Ill crush Moscow in getting to 100. Bunch of spuds living off Meow drafting :P

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on June 02, 2016, 10:50:09 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 02, 2016, 10:25:27 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 02, 2016, 10:22:16 AM
Quote from: Holz on June 02, 2016, 10:13:36 AM
Dublin record is pretty amazing

2012: 2-15
2013: 10-7
2014: 14-3  Finals 3-0
2015: 16-1  Finals 2-1
2016: 8-2

Total: 50-28
Total with Finals 55-29

64% wins in home and away with 65.5% overall largely due to my first 1.5 seasons.
83% in finals im pretty happy with.

The scary stat is 43-7 is 86% in the last 3 years.

I want to be the first club to get to 100 H & A wins. I reckon that will require a moscow colapse. I reckon they would be about 60 wins. and about 70 in total


Well, there is Mexico City too
And NDT
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 06, 2016, 10:01:04 PM
So we're at the half way mark of the AFL season, and most teams have had their fair share of casualties which got me thinking - what type of players can you see yourself targeting in the 16/17 trade period?

For us, I think our midfield is where we will look to bolster mostly, but of course all lines will need development
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on June 06, 2016, 10:08:05 PM
Defenders.

Matt Jaensch retired, Jackson Thurlow ACL and then we've got guys like Aish that haven't come on quite as we expected. Then to top it off our depth guys aren't even available to cover! Tom Jonas (suspension), Ted Richards (concussion), Heritier (concussion), Michael Talia (foot), even Alipate flowerin Carlile (wrist/knee)!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on June 06, 2016, 10:11:06 PM
Just felt that oh so faint sense of dread at the thought of the trade period  :-[  :P

Dunno... still reckon I got decent depth across the lines, and I don't expect Viney, Fyfe & Brad Crouch to be out (or shower) most weeks. But maybe another decent mid.

I do have 2 targets though, but I ain't sayin otherwise their owners will play hard ball with me :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 06, 2016, 10:11:57 PM
Is that even a question? Mids, mids and more mids.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on June 06, 2016, 10:15:05 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 02, 2016, 10:35:03 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 02, 2016, 10:22:16 AM
Quote from: Holz on June 02, 2016, 10:13:36 AM
Dublin record is pretty amazing

2012: 2-15
2013: 10-7
2014: 14-3  Finals 3-0
2015: 16-1  Finals 2-1
2016: 8-2

Total: 50-28
Total with Finals 55-29

64% wins in home and away with 65.5% overall largely due to my first 1.5 seasons.
83% in finals im pretty happy with.

The scary stat is 43-7 is 86% in the last 3 years.

I want to be the first club to get to 100 H & A wins. I reckon that will require a moscow colapse. I reckon they would be about 60 wins. and about 70 in total


Well, there is Mexico City too
I meant Mexico.

Ill crush Moscow in getting to 100. Bunch of spuds living off Meow drafting :P
Arrogance gets you nowhere.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on June 06, 2016, 10:32:09 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 06, 2016, 10:11:06 PM
Just felt that oh so faint sense of dread at the thought of the trade period  :-[  :P

Dunno... still reckon I got decent depth across the lines, and I don't expect Viney, Fyfe & Brad Crouch to be out (or shower) most weeks. But maybe another decent mid.

I do have 2 targets though, but I ain't sayin otherwise their owners will play hard ball with me :P
we know you want stretch :P

Seriously though what does PNL need?

a few weeks ago i might of said defenders but Zac Williams coming on well and stretch as well (though i worry will either keep Def status) but we have been missing Marley for majority of season too

mids have been tested with Swan and hodge out but mckenzie & keays are there not great of course but showing signs

Fwds once again are our strong suit at times it seemed to struggle but in recent weeks our revivial is down to our fwds stepping up
wingard finding form
same as westy
Cyril always dangerous
Billings doing fine
Zerrett is a star but will lose Fwd butt hat helps bolster mids

Crozier past couple of weeks starring

so for us i think a lot of it will be too see how the young ones and older ones finishes off the year respectively
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Memphistopheles on June 06, 2016, 10:36:32 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 06, 2016, 10:01:04 PM
So we're at the half way mark of the AFL season, and most teams have had their fair share of casualties which got me thinking - what type of players can you see yourself targeting in the 16/17 trade period?

For us, I think our midfield is where we will look to bolster mostly, but of course all lines will need development

Our forward line needs bolstering. And, with Matt Dea sadly not being able to stay on next season unless we draft him we might need another back. Although Mills as a back is tasty next year.

But, to be honest our young talent across all lines is pretty good - it's more a matter of time to waiting for them to come on (and hopefulyl all develop like Lachie Hunter).

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on June 06, 2016, 10:39:56 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on June 06, 2016, 10:32:09 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 06, 2016, 10:11:06 PM
Just felt that oh so faint sense of dread at the thought of the trade period  :-[  :P

Dunno... still reckon I got decent depth across the lines, and I don't expect Viney, Fyfe & Brad Crouch to be out (or shower) most weeks. But maybe another decent mid.

I do have 2 targets though, but I ain't sayin otherwise their owners will play hard ball with me :P
we know you want stretch :P

Sure I do :P I want almost every melbourne player haha, but my self-imposed ban from last year has worked really well for me and I plan for that to continue...

... except for one player. Then I swear I'm done!

... Well, I'm the only one who knows how to appreciate Nate Jones btw, thought you should know. But he isn't my target :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on June 06, 2016, 11:00:22 PM
He keeps telling me you keep coming by to visit.... He's not sure what to think... He's gonna be a star.... At 'Jing!





<----------- ;) ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on June 06, 2016, 11:06:55 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 06, 2016, 10:39:56 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on June 06, 2016, 10:32:09 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 06, 2016, 10:11:06 PM
Just felt that oh so faint sense of dread at the thought of the trade period  :-[  :P

Dunno... still reckon I got decent depth across the lines, and I don't expect Viney, Fyfe & Brad Crouch to be out (or shower) most weeks. But maybe another decent mid.

I do have 2 targets though, but I ain't sayin otherwise their owners will play hard ball with me :P
we know you want stretch :P

Sure I do :P I want almost every melbourne player haha, but my self-imposed ban from last year has worked really well for me and I plan for that to continue...

... except for one player. Then I swear I'm done!

... Well, I'm the only one who knows how to appreciate Nate Jones btw, thought you should know. But he isn't my target :P

The Ladder begs to differ on this strategy

when Dees were bad you loaded up and it hurt

now they coming good you have less and it hurts :P

hey jones is available for the right price show him how much you love him lol
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on June 06, 2016, 11:36:27 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on June 06, 2016, 10:32:09 PM
Seriously though what does PNL need?

mids have been tested with Swan and hodge out but mckenzie & keays are there not great of course but showing signs
Think Daz is on the ball for us. We could always use another top midfield, as everybody can see how without Swan/Hodge we really do fall off for our top range depth there. Backs and Forwards been in and out of form, wouldn't turn down another high class back along with a midfielder. Rucks as usual for us as well :P.

We aren't afraid to take some risks on some youngsters, got in Sheridan a few seasons ago, Crozier, Stretch, Troy Menzel and Zac Williams last season. Daniel Rich for Zac was quite a risk given Rich is reliable but that tag limits him :(. Given Zac has been better than we expected and really cementing his spot in the side :D.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on June 07, 2016, 12:52:47 AM
I'm looking to trade out Hartlett at his 2014 price. Or I'll keep him and watch him bounce back like Gibbs.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on June 07, 2016, 01:30:03 AM
On the table

Reid
Wilson
Gilbert
Dempster

Gibbs
Hartlett
Stevens
Trengove

Wilbur
Cox

Stringer
Vandenberg
Dickson
Garlett
Anderson
Lester

Montagna has played half back heaps so defender status is a real possibility. Corey Ellis a certainty. I've got too many players so two for one deals are my ideal.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on June 07, 2016, 10:10:23 AM
Quote from: DazBurg on June 06, 2016, 11:06:55 PM

The Ladder begs to differ on this strategy

when Dees were bad you loaded up and it hurt

now they coming good you have less and it hurts :P

hey jones is available for the right price show him how much you love him lol

iZander tells me that too :P

But I got rid of Grimes (hasn't played, will get delisted EOS), Watts (maybe this one hurts coz I always knew he'd come good... still only 79 av), Cross & Jamar retired... the only new Demon I got was Mitch King, and that was to complete the ruck set.

But I kept Gawn & Viney for a reason  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 07, 2016, 10:21:45 AM
remember when Purp was annoyed that he tacked on Tmac at the end of this trade, well now im annoyed. I need my mids. In saying that I love buddy, nds is handy and tmac helped me get treloar.

Trade 57:
Dublin trade: Nathan Fyfe, Mitch Clark, Lachie Hunter
Berlin trade: Lance Franklin, Nick Dal Santo, Tom McDonald

this one though

Berlin gives: Josh Green
Dublin gives: Pick 68, Rookie Pick 37, Lachie Neale

it hurts more every year.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on June 07, 2016, 11:23:56 AM
Quote from: Holz on June 07, 2016, 10:21:45 AM
remember when Purp was annoyed that he tacked on Tmac at the end of this trade, well now im annoyed. I need my mids. In saying that I love buddy, nds is handy and tmac helped me get treloar.

Trade 57:
Dublin trade: Nathan Fyfe, Mitch Clark, Lachie Hunter
Berlin trade: Lance Franklin, Nick Dal Santo, Tom McDonald

this one though

Berlin gives: Josh Green
Dublin gives: Pick 68, Rookie Pick 37, Lachie Neale

it hurts more every year.

If only I didn't trade away Neale and Hunter for nothing...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 07, 2016, 11:25:51 AM
Hahaha all that for Green. That's gotta hurt!

There's been a few doozies over the years
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on June 07, 2016, 11:31:45 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 06, 2016, 10:01:04 PM
So we're at the half way mark of the AFL season, and most teams have had their fair share of casualties which got me thinking - what type of players can you see yourself targeting in the 16/17 trade period?
With Rich, MCrouch, Ross, Oxley, Lloyd rotating through U2 next year, we'll be looking to sell mids and targeting mainly defenders and then forwards.

Oh and a decent ruck >:(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on June 07, 2016, 02:26:39 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 07, 2016, 11:31:45 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 06, 2016, 10:01:04 PM
So we're at the half way mark of the AFL season, and most teams have had their fair share of casualties which got me thinking - what type of players can you see yourself targeting in the 16/17 trade period?
With Rich, MCrouch, Ross, Oxley, Lloyd rotating through U2 next year, we'll be looking to sell mids and targeting mainly defenders and then forwards.

Oh and a decent ruck >:(

We'll sell Stef and West as a package for free haha
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 07, 2016, 02:32:51 PM
Quote from: elephants on June 07, 2016, 02:26:39 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 07, 2016, 11:31:45 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 06, 2016, 10:01:04 PM
So we're at the half way mark of the AFL season, and most teams have had their fair share of casualties which got me thinking - what type of players can you see yourself targeting in the 16/17 trade period?
With Rich, MCrouch, Ross, Oxley, Lloyd rotating through U2 next year, we'll be looking to sell mids and targeting mainly defenders and then forwards.

Oh and a decent ruck >:(

We'll sell Stef and West as a package for free haha

perhaps you can trade them for Jobe Watson.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on June 07, 2016, 02:33:27 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 07, 2016, 02:32:51 PM
Quote from: elephants on June 07, 2016, 02:26:39 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 07, 2016, 11:31:45 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 06, 2016, 10:01:04 PM
So we're at the half way mark of the AFL season, and most teams have had their fair share of casualties which got me thinking - what type of players can you see yourself targeting in the 16/17 trade period?
With Rich, MCrouch, Ross, Oxley, Lloyd rotating through U2 next year, we'll be looking to sell mids and targeting mainly defenders and then forwards.

Oh and a decent ruck >:(

We'll sell Stef and West as a package for free haha

perhaps you can trade them for Jobe Watson.
We'd need compo
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on June 07, 2016, 02:46:43 PM
Pretty stoked about trading Martin last year to be honest :D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on June 07, 2016, 02:49:37 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on June 07, 2016, 02:46:43 PM
Pretty stoked about trading Martin last year to be honest :D
Well obviously haha. He's dropped like 30pts in ave and you got Mills for him
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 07, 2016, 02:56:42 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 07, 2016, 02:49:37 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on June 07, 2016, 02:46:43 PM
Pretty stoked about trading Martin last year to be honest :D
Well obviously haha. He's dropped like 30pts in ave and you got Mills for him

You've got a better chance of getting compo than Meow does :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on June 07, 2016, 04:09:45 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 07, 2016, 02:49:37 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on June 07, 2016, 02:46:43 PM
Pretty stoked about trading Martin last year to be honest :D
Well obviously haha. He's dropped like 30pts in ave and you got Mills for him
Too be fair this drop off has been totally out of the blue. I had totally thought he'd be averaging 110 for the next couple of seasons at least.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on June 07, 2016, 04:10:59 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on June 07, 2016, 04:09:45 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 07, 2016, 02:49:37 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on June 07, 2016, 02:46:43 PM
Pretty stoked about trading Martin last year to be honest :D
Well obviously haha. He's dropped like 30pts in ave and you got Mills for him
Too be fair this drop off has been totally out of the blue. I had totally thought he'd be averaging 110 for the next couple of seasons at least.
Same :'(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on June 07, 2016, 04:34:57 PM
Dammit RD, now you've got me thinking about trades already :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 07, 2016, 04:36:52 PM
definitely think we should seriously look at a mid season trade period.

I could use a veteran mid bad right now. 
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on June 07, 2016, 04:39:26 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 07, 2016, 04:36:52 PM
definitely think we should seriously look at a mid season trade period.

I could use a veteran mid bad right now.
Would love the trade talks right now haha but having a trade period in the middle of the year could get messy pretty quickly imo
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 07, 2016, 04:50:20 PM
Maybe there could be a trade period that just goes over the 3 bye weeks, and each team is limited to 2-3 trades or something like that just to keep it manageable whilst allowing teams to fulfil needs
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jukes on June 07, 2016, 04:53:00 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 07, 2016, 04:39:26 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 07, 2016, 04:36:52 PM
definitely think we should seriously look at a mid season trade period.

I could use a veteran mid bad right now.
Would love the trade talks right now haha but having a trade period in the middle of the year could get messy pretty quickly imo
And many teams who are out of it for the year (us) would go into full tank mode and give up a few stars in order to get better in the future.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on June 07, 2016, 05:02:04 PM
Quote from: Jukes on June 07, 2016, 04:53:00 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 07, 2016, 04:39:26 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 07, 2016, 04:36:52 PM
definitely think we should seriously look at a mid season trade period.

I could use a veteran mid bad right now.
Would love the trade talks right now haha but having a trade period in the middle of the year could get messy pretty quickly imo
And many teams who are out of it for the year (us) would go into full tank mode and give up a few stars in order to get better in the future.
Yep exactly. Which hurts the middle teams the most
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 07, 2016, 05:03:31 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 07, 2016, 05:02:04 PM
Quote from: Jukes on June 07, 2016, 04:53:00 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 07, 2016, 04:39:26 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 07, 2016, 04:36:52 PM
definitely think we should seriously look at a mid season trade period.

I could use a veteran mid bad right now.
Would love the trade talks right now haha but having a trade period in the middle of the year could get messy pretty quickly imo
And many teams who are out of it for the year (us) would go into full tank mode and give up a few stars in order to get better in the future.
Yep exactly. Which hurts the middle teams the most

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Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on June 07, 2016, 05:18:58 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 07, 2016, 05:02:04 PM
Quote from: Jukes on June 07, 2016, 04:53:00 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 07, 2016, 04:39:26 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 07, 2016, 04:36:52 PM
definitely think we should seriously look at a mid season trade period.

I could use a veteran mid bad right now.
Would love the trade talks right now haha but having a trade period in the middle of the year could get messy pretty quickly imo
And many teams who are out of it for the year (us) would go into full tank mode and give up a few stars in order to get better in the future.
Yep exactly. Which hurts the middle teams the most
but obviously if we ever had such a thing
it would still  be monitored probably like 2nd trade period Purps simply decides weather it passes or fails

that way no waiting times as most hate especially over a 3 week period and really think he could decide on a trade anytime he wants (i.e no waiting till end of week etc but when he feels like it)

but ofc it does create more things for purps to do
also if ever such a thing was to happen you'd have to delay the leadership group and team preference lists till after a trade period so ppl can change there's etc


but I'm just stating the bloody obvious now :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on June 07, 2016, 05:48:16 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 07, 2016, 04:34:57 PM
Dammit RD, now you've got me thinking about trades already :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on June 07, 2016, 05:52:11 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on June 07, 2016, 05:18:58 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 07, 2016, 05:02:04 PM
Quote from: Jukes on June 07, 2016, 04:53:00 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 07, 2016, 04:39:26 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 07, 2016, 04:36:52 PM
definitely think we should seriously look at a mid season trade period.

I could use a veteran mid bad right now.
Would love the trade talks right now haha but having a trade period in the middle of the year could get messy pretty quickly imo
And many teams who are out of it for the year (us) would go into full tank mode and give up a few stars in order to get better in the future.
Yep exactly. Which hurts the middle teams the most
but obviously if we ever had such a thing
it would still  be monitored probably like 2nd trade period Purps simply decides weather it passes or fails

that way no waiting times as most hate especially over a 3 week period and really think he could decide on a trade anytime he wants (i.e no waiting till end of week etc but when he feels like it)

but ofc it does create more things for purps to do
also if ever such a thing was to happen you'd have to delay the leadership group and team preference lists till after a trade period so ppl can change there's etc


but I'm just stating the bloody obvious now :P

Yup on all of those things.

I personally wouldn't like a mid-season trade period, but I see the merits and cons on both sides.

Coach Purps says
Mid season trades would make my year SOOO much more interesting! We're an old and failing bunch, and we could generate some excitement and even WXV activity with a trade period.

Admin Purps says
flower you coach Purps. It takes away some realism about having actual teams, and you even insinuated yourself that you'd trade your old players, probably to the premiership challenging teams, for young players which just encourages a lopsided second half of the year. Did you even think of the cap restrictions mid year? Yeah, you didn't, coz your arrogant, stupid and I flowering hate you. Get out.



Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on June 07, 2016, 05:53:48 PM
I like Admin Purps... just tells it how it is
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on June 07, 2016, 05:57:14 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 07, 2016, 05:52:11 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on June 07, 2016, 05:18:58 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 07, 2016, 05:02:04 PM
Quote from: Jukes on June 07, 2016, 04:53:00 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 07, 2016, 04:39:26 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 07, 2016, 04:36:52 PM
definitely think we should seriously look at a mid season trade period.

I could use a veteran mid bad right now.
Would love the trade talks right now haha but having a trade period in the middle of the year could get messy pretty quickly imo
And many teams who are out of it for the year (us) would go into full tank mode and give up a few stars in order to get better in the future.
Yep exactly. Which hurts the middle teams the most
but obviously if we ever had such a thing
it would still  be monitored probably like 2nd trade period Purps simply decides weather it passes or fails

that way no waiting times as most hate especially over a 3 week period and really think he could decide on a trade anytime he wants (i.e no waiting till end of week etc but when he feels like it)

but ofc it does create more things for purps to do
also if ever such a thing was to happen you'd have to delay the leadership group and team preference lists till after a trade period so ppl can change there's etc


but I'm just stating the bloody obvious now :P

Yup on all of those things.

I personally wouldn't like a mid-season trade period, but I see the merits and cons on both sides.

Coach Purps says
Mid season trades would make my year SOOO much more interesting! We're an old and failing bunch, and we could generate some excitement and even WXV activity with a trade period.

Admin Purps says
flower you coach Purps. It takes away some realism about having actual teams, and you even insinuated yourself that you'd trade your old players, probably to the premiership challenging teams, for young players which just encourages a lopsided second half of the year. Did you even think of the cap restrictions mid year? Yeah, you didn't, coz your arrogant, stupid and I flowering hate you. Get out.

LOL
Gold purps
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 07, 2016, 06:08:03 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on June 07, 2016, 05:57:14 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 07, 2016, 05:52:11 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on June 07, 2016, 05:18:58 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 07, 2016, 05:02:04 PM
Quote from: Jukes on June 07, 2016, 04:53:00 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 07, 2016, 04:39:26 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 07, 2016, 04:36:52 PM
definitely think we should seriously look at a mid season trade period.

I could use a veteran mid bad right now.
Would love the trade talks right now haha but having a trade period in the middle of the year could get messy pretty quickly imo
And many teams who are out of it for the year (us) would go into full tank mode and give up a few stars in order to get better in the future.
Yep exactly. Which hurts the middle teams the most
but obviously if we ever had such a thing
it would still  be monitored probably like 2nd trade period Purps simply decides weather it passes or fails

that way no waiting times as most hate especially over a 3 week period and really think he could decide on a trade anytime he wants (i.e no waiting till end of week etc but when he feels like it)

but ofc it does create more things for purps to do
also if ever such a thing was to happen you'd have to delay the leadership group and team preference lists till after a trade period so ppl can change there's etc


but I'm just stating the bloody obvious now :P

Yup on all of those things.

I personally wouldn't like a mid-season trade period, but I see the merits and cons on both sides.

Coach Purps says
Mid season trades would make my year SOOO much more interesting! We're an old and failing bunch, and we could generate some excitement and even WXV activity with a trade period.

Admin Purps says
flower you coach Purps. It takes away some realism about having actual teams, and you even insinuated yourself that you'd trade your old players, probably to the premiership challenging teams, for young players which just encourages a lopsided second half of the year. Did you even think of the cap restrictions mid year? Yeah, you didn't, coz your arrogant, stupid and I flowering hate you. Get out.

LOL
Gold purps

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someone take out the Angel.

1. yeah realism from actual afl teams but its done in the NBA and its great.
2. the draw is stacked so the second half of the year the top teams play each other, its also means that teams that now realise they need to rebuild can do so when their players have more value. I can tell you now Ill pay almost double what I would to pick up an old mid now then i would at the end of the year. Which actually helps teams not fall below the pack too much when they rebuild. I would pick up a 34 year old now but i wont at the end of the year so it weakens the top teams in the long run.
3. (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-89SzS2C3s2M/Ue3uIKY0-uI/AAAAAAAAAUM/nFPO6qdgiu4/s1600/scrap+the+cap.PNG)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on June 07, 2016, 06:12:10 PM
NBA is the perfect example.

That said, we aren't the NBA. I like Admin Purps.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on June 07, 2016, 06:26:53 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 07, 2016, 05:52:11 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on June 07, 2016, 05:18:58 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 07, 2016, 05:02:04 PM
Quote from: Jukes on June 07, 2016, 04:53:00 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 07, 2016, 04:39:26 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 07, 2016, 04:36:52 PM
definitely think we should seriously look at a mid season trade period.

I could use a veteran mid bad right now.
Would love the trade talks right now haha but having a trade period in the middle of the year could get messy pretty quickly imo
And many teams who are out of it for the year (us) would go into full tank mode and give up a few stars in order to get better in the future.
Yep exactly. Which hurts the middle teams the most
but obviously if we ever had such a thing
it would still  be monitored probably like 2nd trade period Purps simply decides weather it passes or fails

that way no waiting times as most hate especially over a 3 week period and really think he could decide on a trade anytime he wants (i.e no waiting till end of week etc but when he feels like it)

but ofc it does create more things for purps to do
also if ever such a thing was to happen you'd have to delay the leadership group and team preference lists till after a trade period so ppl can change there's etc


but I'm just stating the bloody obvious now :P

Yup on all of those things.

I personally wouldn't like a mid-season trade period, but I see the merits and cons on both sides.

Coach Purps says
Mid season trades would make my year SOOO much more interesting! We're an old and failing bunch, and we could generate some excitement and even WXV activity with a trade period.

Admin Purps says
flower you coach Purps. It takes away some realism about having actual teams, and you even insinuated yourself that you'd trade your old players, probably to the premiership challenging teams, for young players which just encourages a lopsided second half of the year. Did you even think of the cap restrictions mid year? Yeah, you didn't, coz your arrogant, stupid and I flowering hate you. Get out.
(https://cdn.meme.am/instances/67277775.jpg)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on June 07, 2016, 06:34:30 PM
Lol god damnit, I really hate it when I misspell your or your're
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 07, 2016, 07:20:10 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 07, 2016, 06:34:30 PM
Lol god damnit, I really hate it when I misspell your or your're
Just quoting...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 07, 2016, 07:53:29 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 07, 2016, 06:34:30 PM
Lol god damnit, I really hate it when I misspell your or your're

^dammit

^'your'

^'you're'.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: PowerBug on June 16, 2016, 10:19:23 PM
2016 XVs Champions League (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,107460.0.html)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on June 17, 2016, 12:36:41 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on June 16, 2016, 10:19:23 PM
2016 XVs Champions League (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,107460.0.html)

^^ Get about it! ^^



Also, with the bye rounds over the next weeks, we both have WXV Round 13 and the annual AAP Alliance v EurAsia clash. With the second half of the bye weeks requiring just the two coaches to take part, I was wondering whether the remaining coaches wanted to do something light-hearted during that game, or just wanted a week off?

For example, I was thinking about introducing this concept at the start of the year, but we could have a betting round/thread? That could be anything from the results of the EurAsia/AAP Alliance clash, or you could set up an exhibition match (which I'll happily host) and bet each other on those, or simply whether Zac Dawson will outscore Travis Cloke?

Thoughts?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on June 17, 2016, 12:38:46 PM
Oh, bets wouldn't actually involve money lol, like I'm thinking personal profile pic bets, or making a user post nice things on an AFL team thread
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 17, 2016, 12:39:27 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on June 16, 2016, 10:19:23 PM
2016 XVs Champions League (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,107460.0.html)

Carn Dublin,

win off the back of Kennedy
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on June 17, 2016, 12:43:00 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 17, 2016, 12:38:46 PM
Oh, bets wouldn't actually involve money lol, like I'm thinking personal profile pic bets, or making a user post nice things on an AFL team thread
We bet Nigey's position as co-coach of Karen that we can win a friendly against Dublin
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 17, 2016, 01:14:45 PM
Quote from: GoLions on June 17, 2016, 12:43:00 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 17, 2016, 12:38:46 PM
Oh, bets wouldn't actually involve money lol, like I'm thinking personal profile pic bets, or making a user post nice things on an AFL team thread
We bet Nigey's position as co-coach of Karen that we can win a friendly against Dublin

ok so I have to take Nige if I lose.

what do i get if i win.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on June 17, 2016, 01:18:15 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 17, 2016, 01:14:45 PM
Quote from: GoLions on June 17, 2016, 12:43:00 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 17, 2016, 12:38:46 PM
Oh, bets wouldn't actually involve money lol, like I'm thinking personal profile pic bets, or making a user post nice things on an AFL team thread
We bet Nigey's position as co-coach of Karen that we can win a friendly against Dublin

ok so I have to take Nige if I lose.

what do i get if i win.
Haha ;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on June 18, 2016, 03:31:14 PM
Just a heads up, I have a feeling this comp will be in for a real treat later this year...

Stay tuned; for it shall be announced during the EurAsia v AAP Alliance clash!  :o
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 22, 2016, 11:49:32 AM
Another Dublin boy could be coming in soon.

Jack Silvagni with back to back 4 goal efforts is knocking down the door for selection.

The future is looking bright.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: PowerBug on June 22, 2016, 09:17:34 PM
Managers of:
Christchurch Saints
Mexico City Suns
Dublin Destroyers
Paris Nice Lyon Reindeers
Berlin Brewers
Moscow Spetnaz
Pacific Islanders
New York Revolution

Hope to see you all here (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,107460.0.html) for the live draw of the 2016 Champions League groups. Starts 25th June 8:30pm AEST
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on June 23, 2016, 08:14:53 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 18, 2016, 03:31:14 PM
Just a heads up, I have a feeling this comp will be in for a real treat later this year...

Stay tuned; for it shall be announced during the EurAsia v AAP Alliance clash!  :o
soooooooo?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on June 23, 2016, 08:45:15 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on June 23, 2016, 08:14:53 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 18, 2016, 03:31:14 PM
Just a heads up, I have a feeling this comp will be in for a real treat later this year...

Stay tuned; for it shall be announced during the EurAsia v AAP Alliance clash!  :o
soooooooo?

during

:P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on June 23, 2016, 08:51:12 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 23, 2016, 08:45:15 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on June 23, 2016, 08:14:53 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 18, 2016, 03:31:14 PM
Just a heads up, I have a feeling this comp will be in for a real treat later this year...

Stay tuned; for it shall be announced during the EurAsia v AAP Alliance clash!  :o
soooooooo?

during

:P

it is now Goldy is in play :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on June 23, 2016, 09:24:01 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on June 23, 2016, 08:51:12 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 23, 2016, 08:45:15 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on June 23, 2016, 08:14:53 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 18, 2016, 03:31:14 PM
Just a heads up, I have a feeling this comp will be in for a real treat later this year...

Stay tuned; for it shall be announced during the EurAsia v AAP Alliance clash!  :o
soooooooo?

during

:P

it is now Goldy is in play :P

Haha, in due course!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on June 23, 2016, 09:44:55 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 23, 2016, 09:24:01 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on June 23, 2016, 08:51:12 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 23, 2016, 08:45:15 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on June 23, 2016, 08:14:53 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 18, 2016, 03:31:14 PM
Just a heads up, I have a feeling this comp will be in for a real treat later this year...

Stay tuned; for it shall be announced during the EurAsia v AAP Alliance clash!  :o
soooooooo?

during

:P

it is now Goldy is in play :P

Haha, in due course!
as i'm sure you can tell
i hate waiting on surprises  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on June 24, 2016, 12:04:09 AM
Is Purps pregnant so we know this will be passed on to his child? I know he can't get pregnant, but imagine he was, the surprise of that!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on June 24, 2016, 11:27:36 AM
Quote from: Hellopplz on June 24, 2016, 12:04:09 AM
Is Purps pregnant so we know this will be passed on to his child? I know he can't get pregnant, but imagine he was, the surprise of that!

... no? But I've got ossie13 on standby  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on June 24, 2016, 11:53:38 AM
So close :P.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 24, 2016, 02:28:09 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 24, 2016, 11:27:36 AM
Quote from: Hellopplz on June 24, 2016, 12:04:09 AM
Is Purps pregnant so we know this will be passed on to his child? I know he can't get pregnant, but imagine he was, the surprise of that!

... no? But I've got ossie13 on standby  :P

He just turned 3 and gave him a North Melbourne football for his birthday. Purps is displeased
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on June 24, 2016, 03:26:17 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 24, 2016, 02:28:09 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 24, 2016, 11:27:36 AM
Quote from: Hellopplz on June 24, 2016, 12:04:09 AM
Is Purps pregnant so we know this will be passed on to his child? I know he can't get pregnant, but imagine he was, the surprise of that!

... no? But I've got ossie13 on standby  :P

He just turned 3 and gave him a North Melbourne football for his birthday. Purps is displeased
That in itself justifies North's Tasmanian foray!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on June 24, 2016, 05:40:58 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on June 24, 2016, 03:26:17 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on June 24, 2016, 02:28:09 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 24, 2016, 11:27:36 AM
Quote from: Hellopplz on June 24, 2016, 12:04:09 AM
Is Purps pregnant so we know this will be passed on to his child? I know he can't get pregnant, but imagine he was, the surprise of that!

... no? But I've got ossie13 on standby  :P

He just turned 3 and gave him a North Melbourne football for his birthday. Purps is displeased
That in itself justifies North's Tasmanian foray!

Yeah, at least North are actually doing right by Tassy, I'll give them that.

I still say let ossie13 choose or be chosen!  Just like I did...

... nevertheless, I still stay let him choose or be chosen!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on June 27, 2016, 11:29:59 AM
Forget Pups' announcement, I think the real question here is...

Can New Delhi make finals!??


4. NY - Cape Town(H), Pacific, Seoul, Tokyo - 11 Wins (current % 103)
5. Pacific - Seoul(H), New York(H), Tokyo(H), Toronto(H) - 11 Wins (current % 97)
6. PNL - Dublin, Moscow, Mexico, Christchurch(H) - 10 Wins (current % 105)
7. Beijing - Beunos Aires, London(H), Cairo(H), NDT - 10 Wins (current % 101)
8. NDT - Rio(H), Buenos Aires, London, Beijing - 9 Wins (current % 103)
9. Buenos Aires - Beijing(H), NDT(H), Rio(H), Cairo - 9 Wins (current % 100)
10. Seoul - Pacific, Toronto, New York(H), Cape Town - 9 Wins (current % 96)
11. Christchurch - Moscow, Mexico(H), Berlin, PNL(H) - 8 Wins (current % 100)


Pretty much guaranteed imo...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on June 27, 2016, 12:59:42 PM
Outscored Berlin and PNL this week, no reason why we can't do it again when we meet them. PNL are my dog late in the season.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on June 27, 2016, 11:42:43 PM
Being it Meow. We'll dash your finals hope in the last round for good measure ;).

Payback for Champs league last year :P.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on June 29, 2016, 10:48:50 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 27, 2016, 11:29:59 AM
Forget Pups' announcement, I think the real question here is...

Can New Delhi make finals!??


4. NY - Cape Town(H), Pacific, Seoul, Tokyo - 11 Wins (current % 103)
5. Pacific - Seoul(H), New York(H), Tokyo(H), Toronto(H) - 11 Wins (current % 97)
6. PNL - Dublin, Moscow, Mexico, Christchurch(H) - 10 Wins (current % 105)
7. Beijing - Beunos Aires, London(H), Cairo(H), NDT - 10 Wins (current % 101)
8. NDT - Rio(H), Buenos Aires, London, Beijing - 9 Wins (current % 103)
9. Buenos Aires - Beijing(H), NDT(H), Rio(H), Cairo - 9 Wins (current % 100)
10. Seoul - Pacific, Toronto, New York(H), Cape Town - 9 Wins (current % 96)
11. Christchurch - Moscow, Mexico(H), Berlin, PNL(H) - 8 Wins (current % 100)


Pretty much guaranteed imo...
Barlow out for Pacific could change things a bit :-X and not in a good way
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on June 29, 2016, 11:27:37 AM
Bevo said Wilbur's inclusion is imminent. We'll probably go 4-0 now.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on June 29, 2016, 11:34:50 AM
Christo (collarbone) and Caddy (medial) aren't gonna be helping Beijing's chances...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on June 29, 2016, 11:44:26 AM
Quote from: Toga on June 29, 2016, 11:34:50 AM
Christo (collarbone) and Caddy (medial) aren't gonna be helping Beijing's chances...
4 weeks out from our rivalry match and I'm already hearing excuses  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on June 29, 2016, 11:51:01 AM
My predictions:
NY WWWW - 15
Pacific WLWW - 14
PNL LWLW - 13
Beijing LWWW - 13
NDT LWWL - 11
Buenos WLLW - 11
Seoul LWLW - 11
Christchurch WLLL - 9

If BA beat 'Jing this week it could be a very interesting final round Rico ;) Beijing has been fairly consistent around the 130 mark... So which NDT shows up? ;)

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: AaronKirk on June 29, 2016, 11:54:28 AM
If we don't get any of our rucks back soon we could lose all 4.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on June 29, 2016, 11:59:22 AM
Quote from: Toga on June 29, 2016, 11:51:01 AM
My predictions:
NY WWWW - 15
Pacific WLWW - 14
PNL LWLW - 13
Beijing LWWW - 13
NDT LWWL - 11
Buenos WLLW - 11
Seoul LWLW - 11
Christchurch WLLL - 9

If BA beat 'Jing this week it could be a very interesting final round Rico ;) Beijing has been fairly consistent around the 130 mark... So which NDT shows up? ;)
Those wins i put in my post were including my predictions. So your ladder would be

4. NY WWWW - 12
5. PNL LWLW - 10
6. Beijing LWWW - 10
7. Buenos WLLW - 10
8. Pacific WLWW - 10
9. Seoul LWLW - 9
10. NDT LWWL - 8
11. Christchurch WLLL - 8


and don't worry we'll make sure we'll turn up against the Jing ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on June 29, 2016, 12:28:55 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 29, 2016, 11:59:22 AM
Those wins i put in my post were including my predictions. So your ladder would be

4. NY WWWW - 12
5. PNL LWLW - 10
6. Beijing LWWW - 10
7. Buenos WLLW - 10
8. Pacific WLWW - 10
9. Seoul LWLW - 9
10. NDT LWWL - 8
11. Christchurch WLLL - 8


and don't worry we'll make sure we'll turn up against the Jing ;)

Ahh I see! Well it's gonna be a tight finish to the season that's for sure :o If Buenos Aires get up over us next week chances are (looking at reasonable predictions) our rivalry matchup in the final round could decide who makes the 8 out of the two of us :o :-X
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 29, 2016, 12:53:29 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on June 29, 2016, 11:54:28 AM
If we don't get any of our rucks back soon we could lose all 4.

Pretty sure Ross Lyon said last week that Griff should be back this week

Fingers crossed
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on June 29, 2016, 01:05:21 PM
Quote from: Toga on June 29, 2016, 12:28:55 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 29, 2016, 11:59:22 AM
Those wins i put in my post were including my predictions. So your ladder would be

4. NY WWWW - 12
5. PNL LWLW - 10
6. Beijing LWWW - 10
7. Buenos WLLW - 10
8. Pacific WLWW - 10
9. Seoul LWLW - 9
10. NDT LWWL - 8
11. Christchurch WLLL - 8


and don't worry we'll make sure we'll turn up against the Jing ;)

Ahh I see! Well it's gonna be a tight finish to the season that's for sure :o If Buenos Aires get up over us next week chances are (looking at reasonable predictions) our rivalry matchup in the final round could decide who makes the 8 out of the two of us :o :-X
Could be!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 01, 2016, 01:41:44 PM
Quote from: meow meow on June 29, 2016, 11:27:37 AM
Bevo said Wilbur's inclusion is imminent. We'll probably go 4-0 now.

Jamar with a hamstring, Leuenberger with a bad knee = McKernan wreaking havoc in the 2nd half of the season once again.

Sandi will return in the finals.

Add in Cox and Roughead and that'll be 5 playing rucks.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on July 01, 2016, 02:48:52 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 01, 2016, 01:41:44 PM
Jamar with a hamstring, Leuenberger with a bad knee = McKernan wreaking havoc in the 2nd half of the season once again.

Interesting call. If given the license as #1 ruck as was done late last season, he could be an unbelievable trump card!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 01, 2016, 02:52:41 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 01, 2016, 01:41:44 PM
Quote from: meow meow on June 29, 2016, 11:27:37 AM
Bevo said Wilbur's inclusion is imminent. We'll probably go 4-0 now.

Jamar with a hamstring, Leuenberger with a bad knee = McKernan wreaking havoc in the 2nd half of the season once again.

Sandi will return in the finals.

Add in Cox and Roughead and that'll be 5 playing rucks.

Shame its Quality not Quantity.

in saying that at some point I had Goldy Daw Currie Pittonet Frost all playing.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 01, 2016, 02:53:41 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 01, 2016, 02:52:41 PM
Shame its Quality not Quantity.

You mean the other way around?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 01, 2016, 02:56:10 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 01, 2016, 02:53:41 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 01, 2016, 02:52:41 PM
Shame its Quality not Quantity.

You mean the other way around?

no im saying shame you only need 1 quality ruck not 5 below average ones or having that list would be fine.

Christchurch has an amazing quantity of average scorers. Lacks the quality starting squad though.



Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 01, 2016, 03:03:02 PM
Yes, so it was meant to be the other away around

Meow has Quantity, not Quality
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 01, 2016, 03:04:28 PM
(http://www.theage.com.au/content/dam/images/g/k/t/3/z/4/image.related.articleLeadwide.620x349.gocrzh.png/1461315532389.jpg)

Huge in this week.

Weits at pick 9 is probably the steal of the draft but very happy I was able to pick this guy up with PICK 74!!!!

you basically cant get a better Pedigree.

the guy was injured leading into the draft and is abit undersized because of that. Showing alot in the VFL, give him a few years in the gym and i think he could be exactly what carlton need up front as a third tall much like Jack Gunston. Great reader of the play so just needs to build a running tank.

Exactly what Dublin needs with Roughy up in the air.

starting to really like Calrton with Murphy Weits Byrne Silvagni
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on July 01, 2016, 03:07:09 PM
Holz is saying "shame its quality you need not quantity (like Meow has)"

It works either way, I don't even know why I replied to this message tbh haha
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on July 02, 2016, 12:54:55 AM
Good to see Boak going huge in the week we needed him most ::)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 02, 2016, 10:33:00 AM
Good to see Hartlett produce 67 quality points. The man is on fire. Oh well, at least he'll regain defender status next year. Montagna and Corey Ellis will too so I'll be overflowing with backs.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 03, 2016, 01:14:23 AM
The real Christchurch is back. Would have scored 145 this week with Gibbs as Captain. Boyd, McVeigh, Reid, Mitchell and Griffen with tons. That score includes 44 from Dickson, 70 from Joey and 53 from Andrews. Room to improve.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 04, 2016, 10:50:47 AM
Byrne did his ACL :(

was just starting to come good too.

pressure falling on Collins Jetta Hansen now.

however the "50k Man" Chris Yarran is back training at richmond so could be a big in for finals.

If i can bring back Murphy and Yarran then i like my chances agasint mexico.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 05, 2016, 02:31:08 PM
Can we have a mini trade period or an extra round next season? The AAP/Eurasia clash doesn't do much for me. An additional rivalry round perhaps?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 05, 2016, 02:45:15 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 05, 2016, 02:31:08 PM
Can we have a mini trade period or an extra round next season? The AAP/Eurasia clash doesn't do much for me. An additional rivalry round perhaps?

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 05, 2016, 03:51:03 PM
The last part of the season will see a new and improved Christchurch. 4 big inclusions likely this week.

(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSW4HhbVlKHw7LI1s_hDXSpeVGxrG3cVO35ybpMRCiauJpIm6yVuLpq92SckQ)

(http://www-static2.spulsecdn.net/pics/00/00/24/41/244113_1_O.jpg)

(http://images.theage.com.au/2012/10/19/3726021/narrow-koby-stevens-300x0.jpg)

(http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/AFL+Rd+21+Western+Bulldogs+v+Adelaide+mkJvbmo-xySx.jpg)

Even Jeffy got a recall to the Melbourne senior team and scored 97. Gilbert has found some form. Vandenberg has played a couple of games. Jed Anderson will be ready to return very soon. Jack Steele will be back in the GWS team for their run of 7/8 wins to end the season.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 05, 2016, 04:14:28 PM
You're better than that meow. Stevens is solid, but the other 3 aren't "big" inclusions :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 05, 2016, 06:11:08 PM
Clay Smith is a forward and very capable of averaging 80. That's better than Stringer.

McKernan as sole ruck is capable of 130 on his day


Wilbur is the only ruck that I need. Averaged 113 once upon a time and if he averages 30 less than that he's still a big improvement over Cox.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 05, 2016, 07:29:21 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 05, 2016, 02:45:15 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 05, 2016, 02:31:08 PM
Can we have a mini trade period or an extra round next season? The AAP/Eurasia clash doesn't do much for me. An additional rivalry round perhaps?

An additional round would introduce an unevenness in the fixture  :-\

Plus I also think the AFL byes had a part to play in making the week feel wanting.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on July 05, 2016, 07:41:53 PM
Worlds tradition > An Extra Round
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 05, 2016, 08:52:01 PM
big fan of the AAP/Euroasia comp,

actually find it much more interesting then the regular season.

love the mid season trade period idea though.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 05, 2016, 09:47:57 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 05, 2016, 08:52:01 PM
big fan of the AAP/Euroasia comp,

actually find it much more interesting then the regular season.

That doesn't surprise me one bit LOL

Might be fun for you and JROO, but I'm sure most others probably don't care

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 05, 2016, 10:11:47 PM
Yeah, honestly, in 2017 onwards, Dublin and Mexico City should be banned from participating just so it's marginally interesting.

Maybe have a restriction of 2 players per team or something as well so that everyone actually gets to be involved.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on July 05, 2016, 10:46:17 PM
Holz wont be coach next year anyway
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 06, 2016, 12:00:26 AM
Quote from: Nige on July 05, 2016, 10:11:47 PM
Yeah, honestly, in 2017 onwards, Dublin and Mexico City should be banned from participating just so it's marginally interesting.

Maybe have a restriction of 2 players per team or something as well so that everyone actually gets to be involved.

I actually thinking a minimum of 2 players from each team must be on the list and perhaps a maximum of 4.

For the record i always liked the AAP Euroasia comp even when i was the wooden spoon team and had nobody on it. I like the history of it.

Im also stepping down as the head coach if i get it next year

Time to give it to somebody else.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 06, 2016, 12:00:57 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 05, 2016, 10:46:17 PM
Holz wont be coach next year anyway

your right but not for the reason you said
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on July 06, 2016, 12:50:47 AM
Quote from: Holz on July 06, 2016, 12:00:57 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 05, 2016, 10:46:17 PM
Holz wont be coach next year anyway

your right but not for the reason you said
haha


Yeh I also enjoy this round and really like the idea of min/max from each team
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on July 06, 2016, 08:55:27 AM
i like it as well nice to sit back a little and enjoy it

though a trade period sounds nice
and if that isn't viable even an open discussion towards what teams may or may not be looking for in trade time (i know early for that but instead of ppl starting early behind closed doors could all start a open discussion in a thread etc for that week only)

dunno probably don't need a thread but was a thought
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 06, 2016, 09:00:17 AM
9 teams per alliance, 15 + 3 EMG = 18 which is 2 players per team, and the coach decides how to field the 18

Easy

Might not be the absolute best 18 from the alliance but it will be the best 18 from all teams
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 06, 2016, 09:03:13 AM
And as for a mid season trade period there are pro's and cons

Obviously a team could jag a player that helps them improve a lot, but it could also mean that the 8 is still wide open all the way up to the final round so I'm for it, but with a maximum of say 2 trades per team to keep it small and not drag out/have a massive impact
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 06, 2016, 10:12:36 AM

As Purps said, a lot of it depends on AFL fixturing, and unless you want an uneven draw, an early finish or extended finals, there's always going to be 21 Worlds weeks (17 rounds + 4 finals) and 22 AFL weeks.

I don't like a mid-season trade week. In the AFL, they could be doing a mini-draft mid-season, but that's entirely different to actual trading.

With a mid-season trade week, suddenly the fixture is compromised. Some team will trade an Ablett or a Pendlebury to a team on the cusp of making finals, and suddenly it matters (beyond luck) when you play a certain a team.

Could you imagine being a team who got beaten by another team who had Ablett as Captain score 170, only to face a team again with Ablett as Captain scoring 180 later in the year?

Or a team without a ruck all year, suddenly has one in the 2nd half of the year?

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 06, 2016, 09:03:13 AM
And as for a mid season trade period there are pro's and cons

Obviously a team could jag a player that helps them improve a lot, but it could also mean that the 8 is still wide open all the way up to the final round so I'm for it, but with a maximum of say 2 trades per team to keep it small and not drag out/have a massive impact

No real issue with that, and you could have the coaches selecting based on ladder position (i.e. Holz selects first, 2nd place selects 2nd, etc....)



But I have no say in this anymore anyway :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 06, 2016, 10:29:32 AM
The trade period could be restricted to involve players averaging 75 or less to stop blatant abuse of the system. It would mainly be to help the teams who are playing an OOP.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 06, 2016, 10:54:12 AM
I'd also shy away from a mid-season trade period, just because I like how the lists are locked in for the whole season, and where coach preparation and AFL luck determines your season success.

And for the reason oz says.

Also like the min/max for EurAsia/AAP clash :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 06, 2016, 10:59:55 AM
Quote from: meow meow on July 06, 2016, 10:29:32 AM
The trade period could be restricted to involve players averaging 75 or less to stop blatant abuse of the system. It would mainly be to help the teams who are playing an OOP.

how about older teams who have been hit by injuries and now want to rebuild. Their older players have alot more value now then then at the end of the year.

The team in question would be PNL. They have been masacered. If they wanted to move on someone like hodge to get a little younger they will get much more from him then they will at the end of the trade period.

or what about teams hit by injury in one line.

I have had yarran roughy miss for the whole of the year, if instead of yarran it was buddy that would basically end my hopes. Whereas I have defenders everywhere.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 06, 2016, 11:15:08 AM
Quote from: Holz on July 06, 2016, 10:59:55 AM
Quote from: meow meow on July 06, 2016, 10:29:32 AM
The trade period could be restricted to involve players averaging 75 or less to stop blatant abuse of the system. It would mainly be to help the teams who are playing an OOP.

how about older teams who have been hit by injuries and now want to rebuild. Their older players have alot more value now then then at the end of the year.

The team in question would be PNL. They have been masacered. If they wanted to move on someone like hodge to get a little younger they will get much more from him then they will at the end of the trade period.

or what about teams hit by injury in one line.

I have had yarran roughy miss for the whole of the year, if instead of yarran it was buddy that would basically end my hopes. Whereas I have defenders everywhere.


But its not like the players suddenly aged, they were old to begin with at the start of the season. Older players have a greater odd of being injured, so it is a risk to be mitigated.

I have absolutely nothing against luck - good or bad. That's what makes these things fun. What I am against is bias, and I think that is what a mid-season trade period adds.

If depth is the chief concern, I think you should be able to call on your reserves. Players that aren't injured, but are selected to play in the VFL/WAFL/SANFL/NEAFL if you have no other person available in that position. How you determine what they score is a different conversation (i.e. score 75 points if named in the best for that game, 50 points if they play at all, score 20% lower than the lowest scorer in that line, kind of thing), but at least it doesn't add bias and would solve a lot of issues (and kind of be more realistic).
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 06, 2016, 11:36:27 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 06, 2016, 11:15:08 AM
Quote from: Holz on July 06, 2016, 10:59:55 AM
Quote from: meow meow on July 06, 2016, 10:29:32 AM
The trade period could be restricted to involve players averaging 75 or less to stop blatant abuse of the system. It would mainly be to help the teams who are playing an OOP.

how about older teams who have been hit by injuries and now want to rebuild. Their older players have alot more value now then then at the end of the year.

The team in question would be PNL. They have been masacered. If they wanted to move on someone like hodge to get a little younger they will get much more from him then they will at the end of the trade period.

or what about teams hit by injury in one line.

I have had yarran roughy miss for the whole of the year, if instead of yarran it was buddy that would basically end my hopes. Whereas I have defenders everywhere.


But its not like the players suddenly aged, they were old to begin with at the start of the season. Older players have a greater odd of being injured, so it is a risk to be mitigated.

I have absolutely nothing against luck - good or bad. That's what makes these things fun. What I am against is bias, and I think that is what a mid-season trade period adds.

If depth is the chief concern, I think you should be able to call on your reserves. Players that aren't injured, but are selected to play in the VFL/WAFL/SANFL/NEAFL if you have no other person available in that position. How you determine what they score is a different conversation (i.e. score 75 points if named in the best for that game, 50 points if they play at all, score 20% lower than the lowest scorer in that line, kind of thing), but at least it doesn't add bias and would solve a lot of issues (and kind of be more realistic).

its not necessarily the older players getting injured though. If you say have 3-4 older players in your squad and your pushing for a flag and your young guys go down, causing you no chance of a flag it makes sense to move on the older guys, especially if they are playing and on fire.

the value of older players (and really all players in general) is how many years left. So the perfect example is Luke Hodge.

PNL wants to move him on because

A. Lobbe has gone down (not an old guy)
B. Swan season long broken foot (Not an old guy injury)

now Hodge is/will be playing. He is 32 years old but an old 32. So lets say i think he will retire end of next year (which i do).

If i buy him next year im buying a guy who can help me in 1 finals series. If i buy him now I can buy a guy who will help me in 2 finals series. Essentially his value is double now then it is in the end of the year.

This is why lots of comps around the world have this system.

It works the other way round with Collins Weits Omac Jetta over peforming and then my forward line struggling with Roughy out for the year and then his backup in Schoey injured. I would like to have some forward cover.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 06, 2016, 12:21:48 PM
Holz wants it so it's probably a bad idea. No mid season trading it is.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 06, 2016, 12:22:50 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 06, 2016, 12:21:48 PM
Holz wants it so it's probably a bad idea. No mid season trading it is.

I do but the main reason is for PNL.

my ally.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 06, 2016, 12:24:47 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 06, 2016, 12:22:50 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 06, 2016, 12:21:48 PM
Holz wants it so it's probably a bad idea. No mid season trading it is.

I do but the main reason is for PNL.

my ally.
So they can trade their 'old guys' to you so you can keep winning?

Yeah nah, nice try mate.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on July 06, 2016, 04:00:48 PM
How about we revert to our 45 players per list and then have a mid season draft involving left over players plus any delisted players to keep lists at 45. May not work though but also do away with rookie lists as well.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 06, 2016, 10:43:08 PM
Quote from: Ringo on July 06, 2016, 04:00:48 PM
How about we revert to our 45 players per list and then have a mid season draft involving left over players plus any delisted players to keep lists at 45. May not work though but also do away with rookie lists as well.

Lists are already at 45 per team, with about 6 having 46

Rookie lists are something to talk about though
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on July 06, 2016, 11:14:02 PM
How about we leave everything as it is now?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 06, 2016, 11:46:47 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 06, 2016, 11:14:02 PM
How about we leave everything as it is now?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on July 07, 2016, 02:13:54 AM
Just saying, don't think we've ever actually traded any players with Holz :P.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on July 07, 2016, 08:04:27 AM
Quote from: Hellopplz on July 07, 2016, 02:13:54 AM
Just saying, don't think we've ever actually traded any players with Holz :P.
+1 (and doubt we actually will ever get one over the line TBH)

i still personally think it would be too messy to have a mid week trade period and actually for the comps sake think we shouldn't have one unless it was heavily regulated

on  a personal and team level - i just like talking trades...lol....so any reasont o dot hat is good for me hence event he thread idea
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 07, 2016, 04:43:31 PM
ok So Matt kennedy debuting was very exciting.

Silvagni not as much but was very very happy.

however this next guy not as much from a fantasy perspective (yet) but from a personal perspective is the best debut of any player in the AFL this year.

amazing story of a guy who as a kid escaped the war and spent 4 years in a refuge camp in Kenya. Absolutely loves the game and can name every single player in the AFL just with club and jumper number. Huge fantasy fan as well.

Stoked he gets his shot at the AFL and i really hope he goes well.

will probably end up being my favorite player not in a north or cats jumper.
(http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/92518652335551f4d5cb3b21a6bafb60)

REUBEN WILLIAMS
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 07, 2016, 04:47:53 PM
You clearly don't love him enough to get his name right though.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 07, 2016, 04:50:56 PM
Quote from: Nige on July 07, 2016, 04:47:53 PM
You clearly don't love him enough to get his name right though.  :P
thats my mild dyslexia, not an indication of how much i like the guy.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 08, 2016, 11:19:48 AM

Just musings and thinking outside the box a bit, to add a random element of 'weather' to the system

Average temp and rainfall for July for each city (chose July cos I couldn't be bothered going longer, and it seems the middle)

   July Temp   July Precipitation
New Delhi   35   237
Cairo   34   1
Beijing   31   176
New York   29   117
Tokyo   29   154
Seoul   27   383
Toronto   27   64
Pacific   26   125
Rio de Janeiro   25   42
PNL   25   62
Berlin   24   56
Mexico City   24   70
London   23   41
Moscow   23   94
Dublin   20   56
Cape Town   18   100
Buenos Aires   15   66
Christchurch   11   68


Cold teams: PNL, Berlin, Mexico City, London, Moscow, Dublin, Cape Town, Buenos Aires, Christchurch

Hot teams: New Delhi, Cairo, Beijing, New York, Tokyo, Seoul, Toronto, Pacific, Rio de Janeiro

Wet teams: Seoul (!!), New Delhi, Beijing, Tokyo, Pacific, New York, Cape Town, Moscow, Mexico City

Dry teams: Christchurch, Buenos Aires, Toronto, PNL, Berlin, Dublin, Rio de Janeiro, London, Cairo


So... let's say before every match (well before the match starts), each game is given a random (50-50) chance of being a 'hot' or 'cold' game, and a random (50-50) chance of being a 'wet' or 'dry' game. Not actually going to use actual forecasts, because who can be bothered, and makes it almost impossible to be fair.


If a match does not suit your natural conditions, this happens:

Hot or Cold: Need 2 midfielders on the bench to avoid a 50 SC point start to the other team
Wet or Dry: Need to either flood or attack to avoid a 50 SC point start to the other team


So, let's say the start of a match is 'Hot' and 'Wet':

If your team is:
Hot / Wet : No action required, do what you like
Hot / Dry : In order to avoid a 50 point start to the other team, you need to adjust to the Dry conditions by either flooding or attacking
Cold / Wet : In order to avoid a 50 point start to the other team, you need to adjust to the Cold conditions by having 2 midfielders on the bench
Cold / Dry : In order to avoid a 100 point start to the other team, you need to adjust to the Dry conditions by either flooding or attacking, and adjust to the Cold conditions by having 2 midfielders on the bench


Yep, likely too complicated, but just having a think...

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 08, 2016, 12:41:48 PM
I god damn love that idea. Love it!

But I doubt the consensus would agree to this added complexity to Worlds  :(

Let's say, hypothetically, this were to happen, then I think we remove the Attack/Flood limits? Also, does this replace HGA? So like, if it's a Berlin home game, and we are a Cold & Dry team, meaning that's our home environment, we put the responsibility on the opposing teams to adjust to our conditions?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 08, 2016, 12:46:30 PM

Quote from: Purple 77 on July 08, 2016, 12:41:48 PM
I god damn love that idea. Love it!

But I doubt the consensus would agree to this added complexity to Worlds  :(

Let's say, hypothetically, this were to happen, then I think we remove the Attack/Flood limits? Also, does this replace HGA? So like, if it's a Berlin home game, and we are a Cold & Dry team, meaning that's our home environment, we put the responsibility on the opposing teams to adjust to our conditions?

I think it would be in additional to HGA (crowd, ground size, etc). But the way I set up the weather conditions was that it didn't really matter if you were the home team or not (which isn't realistic I know).

Yeah, I'd think you would remove the attack/flood restrictions.

Trying to keep it simply complex :p, without having to look up actual weather forecasts every week lol


Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on July 08, 2016, 12:48:13 PM
So how would we know what the weather is if we weren't using real forecasts?

A good concept, but complications may be a little too much.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 08, 2016, 01:12:05 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on July 08, 2016, 12:48:13 PM
So how would we know what the weather is if we weren't using real forecasts?

A good concept, but complications may be a little too much.

When Purps puts up the fixture, he'd also put up a randomly generated forecast
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on July 08, 2016, 02:35:23 PM
I like it!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on July 08, 2016, 07:55:43 PM
Could even simplify it.

Say its always wet when played at a wet teams home

Always dry at a dry teams home

If a wet team plays a wet team no need to adapt all square

If a dry plays a wet in the wet then they need to adapt or lose 50 point head start
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 09, 2016, 06:31:47 AM
Personally i hate it, its already way to complex with resting, leadership groups, floodings.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 09, 2016, 07:11:37 AM
Quote from: Holz on July 09, 2016, 06:31:47 AM
Personally i hate it, its already way to complex with resting, leadership groups, floodings.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 09, 2016, 07:53:35 AM
Have said it before - love your creativity Os but there's already enough going on in Worlds and that just puts more on our plate each week for what would most likely be a small impact on the end result

I'd honestly lose interest if something like that was implemented. Call me old fashioned, but I just want to trade during the trade period then name my team each week - that's enough fun for me  :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on July 09, 2016, 09:58:33 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 09, 2016, 07:53:35 AM
Have said it before - love your creativity Os but there's already enough going on in Worlds and that just puts more on our plate each week for what would most likely be a small impact on the end result

I'd honestly lose interest if something like that was implemented. Call me old fashioned, but I just want to trade during the trade period then name my team each week - that's enough fun for me  :)


I swear you were just complaining about tradition and wanted to disband the eurasis/aap game and have another trade period and now your old fashioned.....
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on July 09, 2016, 12:01:01 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on July 09, 2016, 09:58:33 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 09, 2016, 07:53:35 AM
Have said it before - love your creativity Os but there's already enough going on in Worlds and that just puts more on our plate each week for what would most likely be a small impact on the end result

I'd honestly lose interest if something like that was implemented. Call me old fashioned, but I just want to trade during the trade period then name my team each week - that's enough fun for me  :)


I swear you were just complaining about tradition and wanted to disband the eurasis/aap game and have another trade period and now your old fashioned.....
Ha snap
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 09, 2016, 12:46:53 PM
I like it. If people think it's too complex then how do you manage to do things like cook toast when there's 2 pieces of equipment in addition to the ingredients? Plus who eats toast by itself? You're probably going to need a beverage to go with that so it's getting complicated now. I have faith in everyone here that they're able to cook toast.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 09, 2016, 01:56:13 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on July 09, 2016, 09:58:33 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 09, 2016, 07:53:35 AM
Have said it before - love your creativity Os but there's already enough going on in Worlds and that just puts more on our plate each week for what would most likely be a small impact on the end result

I'd honestly lose interest if something like that was implemented. Call me old fashioned, but I just want to trade during the trade period then name my team each week - that's enough fun for me  :)


I swear you were just complaining about tradition and wanted to disband the eurasis/aap game and have another trade period and now your old fashioned.....

What?

I clearly said I just want to trade when we can and name my team (with the current rules like flood, attack etc) and don't like the idea of having more rules and stuff to do because there's enough as it is, which is what the reference to being old fashion was

And yes, I don't care about Eurasia/AAP but I don't see how that has anything to do with what my initial statement was. Yes that's tradition and I don't mind it continuing at all - it's not a new rule that needs to be added on the top of the current long list of rules

I think you took a lot more out what I said than what I actually said. I simply agree with Holz and Nige, but just expanded

And meow, that comparison is just ridiculous and you know it :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on July 09, 2016, 02:10:01 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 09, 2016, 12:46:53 PM
I like it. If people think it's too complex then how do you manage to do things like cook toast when there's 2 pieces of equipment in addition to the ingredients? Plus who eats toast by itself? You're probably going to need a beverage to go with that so it's getting complicated now. I have faith in everyone here that they're able to cook toast.
Except at Moscow, where the toast cooks you.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 09, 2016, 10:26:04 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 01, 2014, 11:26:06 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 01, 2014, 11:11:53 PM
i like it

but

it's kinda like trading a pick for a player so do they need to be voted on?

like what if a team uses pick 5 on Lester or somebody not worth pick 5

If the team selecting him thinks he is worth pick 5, how is that any different from them selecting Oleg Markov if they think he is worth pick 5 even though they'd be the only person on the planet who thinks so? Should that be voted on too?

Markov definitely worth pick 5.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on July 11, 2016, 07:38:11 PM
 :'(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 11, 2016, 07:45:24 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on July 11, 2016, 07:38:11 PM
:'(

Unlucky
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 11, 2016, 08:13:02 PM
Gibbs > Ablett
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 11, 2016, 08:57:38 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 11, 2016, 08:13:02 PM
Gibbs > Ablett

Pick 12 > McKernan :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 11, 2016, 09:03:36 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 11, 2016, 08:57:38 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 11, 2016, 08:13:02 PM
Gibbs > Ablett

Pick 12 > McKernan :P

Yet if I traded McKernan for Gresham (WXV pick 12) it would probably pass. AFL pick 12 Curnow has set the world on fire so far too.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on July 12, 2016, 12:00:59 AM
Quote from: meow meow on July 11, 2016, 09:03:36 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 11, 2016, 08:57:38 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 11, 2016, 08:13:02 PM
Gibbs > Ablett

Pick 12 > McKernan :P

Yet if I traded McKernan for Gresham (WXV pick 12) it would probably pass.
What? Show of hands who would pass that trade and we'll know to discount your votes for the upcoming period.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 12, 2016, 12:38:51 PM
Apologies for the delay in the end of round stuff, was away all weekend at a house party and still kinda catching up on news/fanatasy happenings. Still dead tired so I reckon I might only get Idol, RS and TOTW done tomorrow when my brain is functioning haha.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 25, 2016, 09:14:23 AM
Number of times each side has made the finals (not including this year)

Finals   #
Mexico City   4
Moscow   4
Buenos Aires   3
Cape Town   3
Sao Paulo   3
Toronto   3
Berlin   2
Dublin   2
PNL   2
Beijing   1
Cairo   1
Christchurch   1
New York   1
Pacific   1
Wellington   1
London   0
New Delhi   0
Rio de Janeiro   0
Seoul   0
Tokyo   0

So Mexico City will be the only club to be in the finals all 5 years

Rio de Janeiro is guaranteed, while Seoul and New Delhi are huge chances to break the duck this year.

Leaving a lot of pressure on London and Tokyo, who could be the only teams to have never made the finals soon. Noting either team has never really been 'cellar' dwellers either
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 25, 2016, 10:37:04 AM
Nice stat!

I still find it interesting Moscow has lost a semi-final every single year
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 25, 2016, 10:49:23 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 25, 2016, 10:37:04 AM
Nice stat!

I still find it interesting Moscow has lost a semi-final every single year

What about this one - Rory Sloane has been BOG (Finals Champion Medal) in a Qualifying Final in each of the last 3 years
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 25, 2016, 10:52:14 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 25, 2016, 10:49:23 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 25, 2016, 10:37:04 AM
Nice stat!

I still find it interesting Moscow has lost a semi-final every single year

What about this one - Rory Sloane has been BOG (Finals Champion Medal) in a Qualifying Final in each of the last 3 years

... how do you record these stats?! Blows my mind...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on July 25, 2016, 10:53:13 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 25, 2016, 10:52:14 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 25, 2016, 10:49:23 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 25, 2016, 10:37:04 AM
Nice stat!

I still find it interesting Moscow has lost a semi-final every single year

What about this one - Rory Sloane has been BOG (Finals Champion Medal) in a Qualifying Final in each of the last 3 years

... how do you record these stats?! Blows my mind...
This ^
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 25, 2016, 10:55:53 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 25, 2016, 10:52:14 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 25, 2016, 10:49:23 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 25, 2016, 10:37:04 AM
Nice stat!

I still find it interesting Moscow has lost a semi-final every single year

What about this one - Rory Sloane has been BOG (Finals Champion Medal) in a Qualifying Final in each of the last 3 years

... how do you record these stats?! Blows my mind...

thats is one of the most amazing stats i have heard. To be in 3 straight qualifying finals for 2 different teams is pretty unique but to be best on ground.

he will get another shot this year and playing Brisbane at home gezz he would be a good shot to go 4. Selwood v essendon at home will give him a big chalenge though.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on July 25, 2016, 08:13:01 PM
A very interesting week this one! A clash to decide the top of the table between Dublin and Mexico.

If Dublin win they secure top spot, if Mexico win they secure top spot. Or do they? However, top spot isn't all that's on the line in this match enter.......The top 3 situation:



IF Mexico wins by a bit and Rio win by plenty. THEN Rio finish 1st, Mexico 2nd.

IF Mexico wins and Rio wins by a bit THEN Mexico 1st, Dublin 2nd.

IF Dublin win by any margin and Rio win. THEN Dublin 1st and Rio 2nd.

IF Rio loses at all THEN They have to travel to the loser of the Mexico/Dublin game in Week 1 of finals.


Rio have the rare chance at finishing top of the seniors and the reserves. However it seems almost impossible.

I'd say the most likely scenarios are anything but the first one 8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: upthemaidens on July 26, 2016, 12:06:14 PM
Should WXV do away with percentage to form the ladder?  And just use points scored instead.

I understand that we want to stay as close to the AFL as possible, but unlike the AFL, a WXV club has no control over points scored against them.
   
A team that doesn't get scored against much,  will already get an advantage of likely winning more games during the season.
     Should they also get the double bonus of a better percentage on top of that as well?

...Figured it's something worth bringing up.  If it's been discussed before then please disregard.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 26, 2016, 12:19:32 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on July 26, 2016, 12:06:14 PM
Should WXV do away with percentage to form the ladder?  And just use points scored instead.

I understand that we want to stay as close to the AFL as possible, but unlike the AFL, a WXV club has no control over points scored against them.
   
A team that doesn't get scored against much,  will already get an advantage of likely winning more games during the season.
     Should they also get the double bonus of a better percentage on top of that as well?

...Figured it's something worth bringing up.  If it's been discussed before then please disregard.

It's a valid argument

I think sometimes we take the "close to AFL as possible" thing a bit too far. We can't be like the AFL in every aspect, and we're not, but I agree that % has no real significance in this league as we cannot control our defence so to speak

That being said, we could end up in a position where a team that finished 10-6 for example which would have them 6th, ends up finishing 9th because another team scored more overall

It's a tricky situation with pro's and con's for both sides of the argument
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on July 26, 2016, 12:22:00 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 26, 2016, 12:19:32 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on July 26, 2016, 12:06:14 PM
Should WXV do away with percentage to form the ladder?  And just use points scored instead.

I understand that we want to stay as close to the AFL as possible, but unlike the AFL, a WXV club has no control over points scored against them.
   
A team that doesn't get scored against much,  will already get an advantage of likely winning more games during the season.
     Should they also get the double bonus of a better percentage on top of that as well?

...Figured it's something worth bringing up.  If it's been discussed before then please disregard.

It's a valid argument

I think sometimes we take the "close to AFL as possible" thing a bit too far. We can't be like the AFL in every aspect, and we're not, but I agree that % has no real significance in this league as we cannot control our defence so to speak

That being said, we could end up in a position where a team that finished 10-6 for example which would have them 6th, ends up finishing 9th because another team scored more overall

It's a tricky situation with pro's and con's for both sides of the argument
And then the other side of that being that a team finishes 9th on %, but if on points scored would have gone up to 6th and had a home final. It's an interesting thing to discuss, I kinda like the % though, but can see why others might prefer it on points.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 26, 2016, 12:44:52 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 26, 2016, 12:19:32 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on July 26, 2016, 12:06:14 PM
Should WXV do away with percentage to form the ladder?  And just use points scored instead.

I understand that we want to stay as close to the AFL as possible, but unlike the AFL, a WXV club has no control over points scored against them.
   
A team that doesn't get scored against much,  will already get an advantage of likely winning more games during the season.
     Should they also get the double bonus of a better percentage on top of that as well?

...Figured it's something worth bringing up.  If it's been discussed before then please disregard.

It's a valid argument

I think sometimes we take the "close to AFL as possible" thing a bit too far. We can't be like the AFL in every aspect, and we're not, but I agree that % has no real significance in this league as we cannot control our defence so to speak

That being said, we could end up in a position where a team that finished 10-6 for example which would have them 6th, ends up finishing 9th because another team scored more overall

It's a tricky situation with pro's and con's for both sides of the argument

Points for is far more fair. We cant control what other teams do so putting up big scores yourslef should be the way to go. If mexico finished on equal wins and a lower percentage but more point scored then I would feel i dont really deserve the minor premiership.

There is no point trying to replicate the afl in every point as above we cant control the opponent scoring. If you want to be more afl realistic then other teams voting on trades is far far worse in terms of resembling the AFL.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 26, 2016, 12:46:51 PM
It is a valid argument, I agree (part of the reason I'd like to rules in this game that allowed you to impact the other coaches score... but can never get a rule up lol).

But if you want to use total points as an indicator, I think you may as well not have head to head matches and just have the top scoring coaches for the year win. Far less exciting, but probably a more accurate reflection of the game. Because head to head games are also based on the luck of the draw (just like the score against).

For instance, if you switched Christchuch and Berlin's fixture, chances are Berlin would be pushing top 4. Surely Berlin, being the 4th-5th scoring team be in the finals?

So I think you use percentage still, as it reflects the week to week variability that makes the game exciting.

The other side has a valid argument, just mine is more valider.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 26, 2016, 01:02:34 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 26, 2016, 12:46:51 PM
It is a valid argument, I agree (part of the reason I'd like to rules in this game that allowed you to impact the other coaches score... but can never get a rule up lol).

But if you want to use total points as an indicator, I think you may as well not have head to head matches and just have the top scoring coaches for the year win. Far less exciting, but probably a more accurate reflection of the game. Because head to head games are also based on the luck of the draw (just like the score against).

For instance, if you switched Christchuch and Berlin's fixture, chances are Berlin would be pushing top 4. Surely Berlin, being the 4th-5th scoring team be in the finals?

So I think you use percentage still, as it reflects the week to week variability that makes the game exciting.

The other side has a valid argument, just mine is more valider.

The fixture is basically luck and your scoing is basically all that you can control in using skill to improve your list. We should never want to take all the luck out of the game so keep the head to head but having points scored means there is a combination of luck and skill in finishing higher up on the ladder.

teams who have lots of points scored against them already are unlucky is they might get a few losses that they probably should have won its compounded if it also hurts their percentages.

By the way the biggest winner of the % situation is Dublin as teams rest players against us some weeks so i have a reasonably low Points against. Also kinda helps the bottom teams abit as people also rest. It will help the middle teams who everyone goes full strength on and these are the teams who are trying to make the 8 and care the most.



Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 26, 2016, 01:44:52 PM
You people speak of "can't impact other teams scores", well, you could if you were willing to implement those negating tactics :P

I feel hard done by on luck for sure, but not hard done by in the system. I like it the way it is personally, because tbh it is less exciting if the more "deserving" teams make finals, if that makes sense.

I mean, in 2013, I think I sat 10th on total points, but made the prelims.

Keep luck in it I say
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 26, 2016, 01:54:05 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 26, 2016, 01:44:52 PM
You people speak of "can't impact other teams scores", well, you could if you were willing to implement those negating tactics :P

I feel hard done by on luck for sure, but not hard done by in the system. I like it the way it is personally, because tbh it is less exciting if the more "deserving" teams make finals, if that makes sense.

I mean, in 2013, I think I sat 10th on total points, but made the prelims.

Keep luck in it I say
In 2013 i was the in form team in the comp and i think i worked out i would have lost in the grand final but never made finals.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 26, 2016, 02:10:42 PM
I think it needs to stay as is, because that's just how any sport ladder and league works

Sometimes you get lucky, and sometimes you get unlucky, but instead of trying to decide between % vs Overall, maybe we can leave things as is, but let's talk about ideas of the possibility of implementing something extra for overall?

Keep this in mind too - you might have scored higher overall than a team who is above you on the ladder, but at least you will get higher draft picks ;) Pro's and con's to both

Hmmm, is there something extra we could add or do for overall?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 26, 2016, 02:12:20 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 26, 2016, 02:10:42 PM

Keep this in mind too - you might have scored higher overall than a team who is above you on the ladder, but at least you will get higher draft picks ;) Pro's and con's to both

That means weaker but luckier teams are worse off and when the luck runs out will struggle more.

In terms of finals spots its very important big difference between 4th and 5th
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 26, 2016, 02:50:33 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 26, 2016, 02:12:20 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 26, 2016, 02:10:42 PM

Keep this in mind too - you might have scored higher overall than a team who is above you on the ladder, but at least you will get higher draft picks ;) Pro's and con's to both

That means weaker but luckier teams are worse off and when the luck runs out will struggle more.

In terms of finals spots its very important big difference between 4th and 5th

Can't have it both ways though

You either make finals, or you miss out and get a higher pick

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 26, 2016, 03:09:56 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 26, 2016, 02:50:33 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 26, 2016, 02:12:20 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 26, 2016, 02:10:42 PM

Keep this in mind too - you might have scored higher overall than a team who is above you on the ladder, but at least you will get higher draft picks ;) Pro's and con's to both

That means weaker but luckier teams are worse off and when the luck runs out will struggle more.

In terms of finals spots its very important big difference between 4th and 5th

Can't have it both ways though

You either make finals, or you miss out and get a higher pick

or you finish 9th and have a worse pick then finishing 11th

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 26, 2016, 03:46:37 PM
I think we're the perfect example

We are 4th for overall points scored, but currently sit 8th on the ladder

To be honest, I think that's a fair reflection of the year we've had. Yes when we're on we're on and can score well, but we still have plenty of stinkers and when we do teams that would be seen to be below us have beaten us and got the points

That being said, I don't think we should be 4th on the ladder at all because we have been poor on many occasions, so I guess this is an argument to leave things as is based on %

You can score all you like, but you have to beat who is put in front of you each week and do it enough to qualify for finals
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on July 26, 2016, 04:12:04 PM
Is it necessary to draft all players on an AFL list each year? I dunno about all the other comps, but in British we always have some leftover players due to our set list sizes. What usually happens is that each year, there will be a few "gems" that appear out of nowhere, and these guys can then be picked up in the next rookie draft by the bottom teams, to help them improve that little bit quicker. It also makes rookie picks a lot more valuable for trading which, again, helps out those bottom teams a little bit more.

I bring this up because I was trying to find who we could take in the rookie draft this year and then realized there are no leftover players :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 26, 2016, 04:14:04 PM

Brits have less teams I think
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on July 26, 2016, 04:18:30 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 26, 2016, 04:14:04 PM

Brits have less teams I think
Yes, but reducing team list sizes by 1 could easily fix that. Also, I'm not sure if the Essendon saga has anything to do with it, but checking our list size against Berlin's, seems like we have 2 extra players?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on July 26, 2016, 04:21:05 PM
(https://i.gyazo.com/d29c50224a5d6dd2edc1175da5f0617c.png)

So, can we change this rule?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 26, 2016, 04:22:26 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 26, 2016, 04:14:04 PM

Brits have less teams I think

Yeah this, and also, we have 18 teams, AFL has 18 teams, so why should there be leftover players?

I find it more enjoyable when a player does come out of no where and he is on someones list. The Rookie draft also has VERY little quality in it, with say, Tom Ruggles (Toronto), Daniel Talia (Berlin), Dale Morris (Cairo) and Kade Stewart (Beijing) being the best to come from it. So I don't think Rookie draft picks would attract any more value if there were left overs.

Quote from: GoLions on July 26, 2016, 04:21:05 PM
(https://i.gyazo.com/d29c50224a5d6dd2edc1175da5f0617c.png)

So, can we change this rule?

Anything anyone brings up in the Rule Discussion thread that normally opens in September will be voted on, so feel free to bring it up then :)

But I know I sure don't wanna change it  :-X but that's just me and my OCD of having all players drafted. Don't forget there are teams struggling to field 15-20 players each week, so I don't want to cut back on their potential depth either by having available players not on a WXV list
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 26, 2016, 04:25:18 PM
I'm with Dave on this one, he explained it pretty well.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on July 26, 2016, 04:26:52 PM
I guess my point is that these leftover players, which could easily go to a bottom team the next year and help them out, can instead go to a top team who doesn't really need them.

For any British team struggling in defence, we currently have a few guys like Ruggles, Collins, and Dea who would be reasonable depth, and even starters for a few teams. So if any of the bottom 3-4 teams need a defender, theybasically have an instant fix. And if they don't, their rookie pick has decent value for anyone above them needing a defender.

Hopefully I remember to bring it up again in September ahaha
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 26, 2016, 04:32:51 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 26, 2016, 03:46:37 PM
I think we're the perfect example

We are 4th for overall points scored, but currently sit 8th on the ladder

To be honest, I think that's a fair reflection of the year we've had. Yes when we're on we're on and can score well, but we still have plenty of stinkers and when we do teams that would be seen to be below us have beaten us and got the points

That being said, I don't think we should be 4th on the ladder at all because we have been poor on many occasions, so I guess this is an argument to leave things as is based on %

You can score all you like, but you have to beat who is put in front of you each week and do it enough to qualify for finals

I dont think anyone is saying it should go on points scored. Of course winning games is more important.

If it was done on Points scored then you would not be 4th, you would be 6th which i think is fair reflection of a team that is inconsistent but the 4th highest scoring.

in fact the only changes in the 8 would be

New York Revolution 8th to 6th
New Delhi Tigers 6th to 7th
Beijing Thunder 7th to 8th

no change to the finals.

so really if the season ended now you get to play NDT at home opposed to Seoul in Korea.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 26, 2016, 04:52:22 PM
How would we be 6th and not 4th?

Our points scored for the year is 2260, only behind Mexico, Dublin and Rio

And of course someone has said it should go on points scored (upthemaidens) - well at least raised the question. If not, we wouldn't even be talking about this lol
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 26, 2016, 04:54:03 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 26, 2016, 04:52:22 PM
How would we be 6th and not 4th?

Our points scored for the year is 2260, only behind Mexico, Dublin and Rio

because im suggesting and im pretty much everyone else is not to say just do the ladder by points scored. Keep the system as it is hence wins and losses then instead of %, use points for.

You have won less games then 4th and 5th, so it doesn't matter that you have scored more points.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 26, 2016, 04:54:49 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 26, 2016, 04:18:30 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 26, 2016, 04:14:04 PM

Brits have less teams I think
Yes, but reducing team list sizes by 1 could easily fix that. Also, I'm not sure if the Essendon saga has anything to do with it, but checking our list size against Berlin's, seems like we have 2 extra players?

Yeah you got Essendon top-ups which increased your overall list size temporarily. You also had one extra player in the leftover rounds in the rookie draft.

Lets take the players from the "leftover" rookie rounds, then introduce the next last 18 picks of the rookie draft:

29. Moscow - Alex Keath
30. Berlin - Daniel Talia
31. PNL - Paul Hunter
32. Rio de Janeiro - Lachlan Keeffe
33. New Delhi - Dallas Willsmore
34. Buenos Aires - Matt Spangher
35. Cairo - Dougal Howard
36. Tokyo - Liam Jones
37. New York - Todd Elton
38. PNL - Cameron Loersch
39. Mexico City - Nicholas Coughlan
40. New Delhi - Jordan Foote
41. PNL - Ryan Nyhuis
42. Dublin - Ryan Gardner
43. Mexico City - Sam Shaw
44. Dublin - Kyle Galloway
45. Mexico City - Matt Korcheck
46. Dublin - Luke Surman
47. New Delhi - Zac Webster
48. Buenos Aires - Shem-Kalvin Tatupu
49. Cairo - Paul Stewart
50. Rio de Janeiro - Tom Derickx
51. Beijing - Xavier Richards
52. London - Zachary Bates
53. Seoul - Kaiden Brand
54. Cape Town - Padraig Lucey
55. Tokyo - Steven Morris
56. Toronto - Jake Long
57. New York - Jackson Paine
58. Pacific - Tom Read
59. Moscow - Cameron Delaney
60. Berlin - Malcolm Karpany
61. PNL - Jermaine Miller-Lewis
62. Christchurch - Alex Silvagni
63. Dublin - Luke Delaney
64. Mexico City - Lewis Melican
65. New Delhi - Michael Jamison
66. Buenos Aires - Zac Dawson
67. Cairo - Dale Morris
68. Rio de Janeiro - Sean Hurley

There is literally ONE player that would be of some value in that entire list. I'm not sure that's an easy fix.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 26, 2016, 05:01:18 PM
Having 16 teams instead of 18 widens the talent pool immensely, and it makes sense to not draft every player as it would make list sizes almost unmanageable and unrealistic. So that leads itself to having quality develop from that pool.

Having 18 teams doesn't allow any talent to slip through the cracks, so why not make every team draft every player and increase your team depth? From that list, I can see a handful of players that was called on to play for their team... I'd much prefer them to use those players instead of no one; making them less competitive  :-\
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 26, 2016, 05:03:36 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 26, 2016, 05:01:18 PM
Having 16 teams instead of 18 widens the talent pool immensely, and it makes sense to not draft every player as it would make list sizes almost unmanageable and unrealistic. So that leads itself to having quality develop from that pool.

Having 18 teams doesn't allow any talent to slip through the cracks, so why not make every team draft every player and increase your team depth? From that list, I can see a handful of players that was called on to play for their team... I'd much prefer them to use those players instead of no one; making them less competitive  :-\

Agreed 18 draft everyone.

16 or less let people slip.

Euro with 14 teams gives us very very good rookie drafts.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 26, 2016, 05:03:44 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 26, 2016, 04:54:03 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 26, 2016, 04:52:22 PM
How would we be 6th and not 4th?

Our points scored for the year is 2260, only behind Mexico, Dublin and Rio

because im suggesting and im pretty much everyone else is not to say just do the ladder by points scored. Keep the system as it is hence wins and losses then instead of %, use points for.

You have won less games then 4th and 5th, so it doesn't matter that you have scored more points.

Ah I'm with you now - thought the discussion was about replacing % with points scored, but replacing % with points scored with wins and losses like you say makes more sense
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: upthemaidens on July 26, 2016, 05:08:41 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 26, 2016, 05:03:44 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 26, 2016, 04:54:03 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 26, 2016, 04:52:22 PM
How would we be 6th and not 4th?

Our points scored for the year is 2260, only behind Mexico, Dublin and Rio

because im suggesting and im pretty much everyone else is not to say just do the ladder by points scored. Keep the system as it is hence wins and losses then instead of %, use points for.

You have won less games then 4th and 5th, so it doesn't matter that you have scored more points.

Ah I'm with you now - thought the discussion was about replacing % with points scored, but replacing % with points scored with wins and losses like you say makes more sense
Yeah I wasn't suggesting taking away wins and loses, just replacing percentage with points scored.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 26, 2016, 06:57:29 PM
I'm all for it
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on July 26, 2016, 07:02:19 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 26, 2016, 06:57:29 PM
I'm all for it
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on July 26, 2016, 08:25:35 PM
WXV > AFL



In regards to the percentage discussion I had a few ideas:

Option 1:
- Since every team plays each other once guaranteed every year.
- So lets say Beijing and New York both finish on 10-7.
- The winner of their regular season match is the team that is given the top spot. (Could easily take HGA out if need be.)
- Since New York won their matchup then they are given preference.

Option 2:
- Same situation. Beijing and New York are tied 10-7 and only one can be put in 8th spot.
- Each teams record against the teams ABOVE them aka finals teams get listed and that is used to determine who finishes higher.
- Example: Beijing went 5-2 against top 7 teams whilst New York went 4-3.
- Jing gets in because they had the better record.

Option 3: <- Highly controversial
- Change the finals system.
- Change from the current AFL system to a 3 week system. Where 1 VS 8, 4 VS 5, 3 VS 6, 2 VS 7
- This means we have an extra week before finals to have a tiebreaker match where the winner gets in.
- If there are no tiebreakers needed then we can bring the finals on straight away to avoid round 23 restings.
- Using the Beijing VS New York example, they would simply have a neutral match to determine who gets into the finals.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 26, 2016, 08:31:49 PM
What if there's 4 teams on 10-7, do we have a fatal 4-way hell in a cell ladder match?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on July 26, 2016, 08:47:28 PM
Option 1 is the ideal IMO, but as Meow mentions it brings into account some dodgy three or four way dealings in terms of a mini-ladder which may well need another tiebreaker.

I like Points Scored TBH.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on July 26, 2016, 08:57:01 PM
I like it how it is
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 26, 2016, 09:00:08 PM
Love the ideas Levi

Although I prefer how it is, I actually really like Option 1, as it makes a H&A match against a peer mean more
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 26, 2016, 09:22:26 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on July 26, 2016, 08:57:01 PM
I like it how it is
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 26, 2016, 09:26:45 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 26, 2016, 08:31:49 PM
What if there's 4 teams on 10-7, do we have a fatal 4-way hell in a cell ladder match?

Tables, Ladders and Chairs
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 27, 2016, 03:54:37 PM
Thought I'd bring up something that's never been talked about and is rarely controversial....

... the Cap.

How's this for an idea? Instead of the points cap, we have a salary cap.

I don't have the numbers to give an indication of what that cap would be.... but this is how I'd do it.

Each player's price is determined by the average score of that player over the last 3 years (and some kind of base level for players that haven't played a game, again, don't have the numbers on me).

This is the MINIMUM price you have to pay for that player.

Every team can 'poach' at most 1 player (and no team can lose more than 3 players to poaching, I thought about having no limit to poaching, but doesn't seem fair. And it has to be more than 1, otherwise it basically turns into trading.).

So how do you poach?

In order to poach, you have to offer at least 50% more than they are getting paid, and commit to that price for 3 years (as a minimum, if the player's average goes above what the new price would be, they'd have to pay the higher price. Also don't have to pay if they retire). The club that poached would also have to give up its first round draft pick to the team they poached the player from.

Let's say Rio's G Ablett is worth $600,000, and Toronto want to be able to poach him. They offer a $1,000,000 (which is more than 50% what he is currently being paid).

Two things would happen:
a) Rio match the price, committing to paying $1,000,000 over the next 3 years. In which case Toronto do not get the player, and as they failed to poach that player, are still free to try and poach another player.

b) Rio do not match the price, and Toronto have signed Ablett for 3 years at that price (free to trade him still, but only at that price and the other team would have to pay Ablett that new price). Toronto have successfully poached a player, and Rio could theoretically still have 2 more players poached from them (but would have more money, as they no longer have to pay Ablett, to avoid further poaching). Toronto would also have to give up its first round pick to Rio.



It would take some time to administer, but I think it could work.



edit: Actually, since you can only poach one player, let's just make a blanket rule that if you poach a player, you have to give up your first round draft pick.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 27, 2016, 04:06:27 PM
While i find it interesting i dont like the idea of poaching at all.

I despise the cap but a salary cap would be worse. You build a list based on structure. In the AFL it works because the draft is far more valuable then it is in Supercoach.

plus teams go for other factors then just money. For example hawks have been poaching players because they give them an opportunity to win a flag.

If we really went the AFL route i should be able to go to patrick dangerfield and ask him to move to Dublin for a chance of winning a premiership.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 27, 2016, 04:10:38 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 27, 2016, 04:06:27 PM
While i find it interesting i dont like the idea of poaching at all.

I despise the cap but a salary cap would be worse. You build a list based on structure. In the AFL it works because the draft is far more valuable then it is in Supercoach.

plus teams go for other factors then just money. For example hawks have been poaching players because they give them an opportunity to win a flag.

If we really went the AFL route i should be able to go to patrick dangerfield and ask him to move to Dublin for a chance of winning a premiership.

Re: Dangerfield, that's why you have a 'minimum' salary. That's the player they are worth at the very least. I.e. Dangerfield would never have gone to Geelong for minimum price, they still had to pay him something.

If a player is worth that much to you for your structure, you should be willing to pay more for them.

And if we really wanted to go the AFL route, we should also introduce a 'random' element where a player simply walks out of a club (i.e. Beams, Cam McCarthy) for personal reasons. But random doesn't seem fair.

This way is at least systematic, and only MINIMAL damage to the top teams (lose 3 players at most and gain 3 first round draft picks, and they can poach themselves, so 2 at most really)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 27, 2016, 04:15:50 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 27, 2016, 04:10:38 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 27, 2016, 04:06:27 PM
While i find it interesting i dont like the idea of poaching at all.

I despise the cap but a salary cap would be worse. You build a list based on structure. In the AFL it works because the draft is far more valuable then it is in Supercoach.

plus teams go for other factors then just money. For example hawks have been poaching players because they give them an opportunity to win a flag.

If we really went the AFL route i should be able to go to patrick dangerfield and ask him to move to Dublin for a chance of winning a premiership.

Re: Dangerfield, that's why you have a 'minimum' salary. That's the player they are worth at the very least. I.e. Dangerfield would never have gone to Geelong for minimum price, they still had to pay him something.

If a player is worth that much to you for your structure, you should be willing to pay more for them.

And if we really wanted to go the AFL route, we should also introduce a 'random' element where a player simply walks out of a club (i.e. Beams, Cam McCarthy) for personal reasons. But random doesn't seem fair.

This way is at least systematic, and only MINIMAL damage to the top teams (lose 3 players at most and gain 3 first round draft picks, and they can poach themselves, so 2 at most really)

From an outsider looking in perspective i think it would be incredibly interesting.

From a coaches point of view I would  quit Worlds as soon as any poaching rule comes into place. We already have no control on what are players do on the field, having 100% control of our list brings some sanity (excluding cap). Losing control with trade voting  has been hard enough. 
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 27, 2016, 04:22:20 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 27, 2016, 04:15:50 PM
From a coaches point of view I would  quit Worlds as soon as any poaching rule comes into place. We already have no control on what are players do on the field, having 100% control of our list brings some sanity (excluding cap). Losing control with trade voting  has been hard enough.

You still have an amazing amount of control - the right to match is always with the current team. And just like the current points cap, you just have to be aware of how much room in the cap you have.

Honestly though, we should be able to have conversations without someone saying 'I'll quit if this happens'. Of course people can (and have) quit at anytime.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 27, 2016, 04:28:45 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 27, 2016, 04:22:20 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 27, 2016, 04:15:50 PM
From a coaches point of view I would  quit Worlds as soon as any poaching rule comes into place. We already have no control on what are players do on the field, having 100% control of our list brings some sanity (excluding cap). Losing control with trade voting  has been hard enough.

You still have an amazing amount of control - the right to match is always with the current team. And just like the current points cap, you just have to be aware of how much room in the cap you have.

Honestly though, we should be able to have conversations without someone saying 'I'll quit if this happens'. Of course people can (and have) quit at anytime.

It wasn't meant as a blackmail or deterrent it was highlighting how opposed I would be to it. i think it fundamentally goes against everything some of us have built for 5 years, even the new coaches have put hours and hours into their team.

Losing a player to injury is just bad luck.

Can you imagine the flaws in it. One team could be systematically attacked. Matching offers for the first few then they would simply be unable to change it. It would be soo hard to regulate.

What happens if you poach a ruckman? most teams have only 1.

What happens if you have 5 good backman and then 5 different teams put a bid in for each of the players. You cant keep them all.

soo many things that can go wrong with it. I doubt many people wuill enjoy losing their players its the thing that list managers dislike the most in real life.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on July 27, 2016, 04:36:50 PM
I dunno if this would work. At Karen, I would imagine we'd be a fair chunk under the salary (if one were introduced), so we could just go up to Mexico and offer Rocky an insaaaaaaaane amount of cash and get him, and that would be incredibly unfair on Mexico.

Sorta on the same topic of the cap, would there be any merit in draft picks having points associated with them as well? We'd probably like to delist almost half our squad (maybe a slight exaggeration :P), or trade for picks and hope we snag a gem late, but this would obviously put us under the cap.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 27, 2016, 04:40:06 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 27, 2016, 04:28:45 PM
Can you imagine the flaws in it. One team could be systematically attacked. Matching offers for the first few then they would simply be unable to change it. It would be soo hard to regulate.

At most you lose 3 players, in return you'd get 3 first round draft picks. If you can't afford to keep your best 1-5 players, you must have a hell of a team. So really you'd only be losing the players you could afford to lose.

It might be good to add a ceiling to a player's price though, just so it doesn't go crazy (i.e. maybe no player can get paid more than $1,000,000).

QuoteWhat happens if you poach a ruckman? most teams have only 1.

If you have 1 ruckman, and he's worth a lot to you, keep them. Alternatively, poach someone elses ruck.

QuoteWhat happens if you have 5 good backman and then 5 different teams put a bid in for each of the players. You cant keep them all.

Well, as I've said a few times. At most only 3 players can leave a club. And you can poach a defender back. So in that case, at worst, you'd lose 2, and only if you couldn't afford them.


Quotesoo many things that can go wrong with it. I doubt many people wuill enjoy losing their players its the thing that list managers dislike the most in real life.

Each club will have favourite players. And if you are willing to let a player go, chances are either that player isn't a favourite, or your a team so full of talent you can't afford them. Either way, should be fine.



Quote from: GoLions on July 27, 2016, 04:36:50 PM
I dunno if this would work. At Karen, I would imagine we'd be a fair chunk under the salary (if one were introduced), so we could just go up to Mexico and offer Rocky an insaaaaaaaane amount of cash and get him, and that would be incredibly unfair on Mexico.

Sorta on the same topic of the cap, would there be any merit in draft picks having points associated with them as well? We'd probably like to delist almost half our squad (maybe a slight exaggeration :P), or trade for picks and hope we snag a gem late, but this would obviously put us under the cap.

It might be worth putting a ceiling on what you can offer, that's a fair point. But remember, you'd be committed to that price for 3 years, which would hurt your ability to build a list in the future.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 27, 2016, 04:44:09 PM
So this is just a more complex way of trading?

The end result is the same as if we were to just trade, but with more complexity and less control to retain?

I think I would prefer us to refine and improve the current rules for WXV first before we start bringing in more features

Issues like trade voting, total points scored vs % etc are thing I'd like us to be discussing and trying to improve before we started looking at more new things to introduce
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on July 27, 2016, 04:44:20 PM
I should start my own XVs with some completely insane rules! Tagging, Salary, Gameplans, training, weather, early season trades.


I like the salary cap rule but if it was introduced then some other things such as "bird years" and Mid Level Exception(MLE) would need to come into it.

Bird Years:
For each 3 years a player is on your roster, they gain one "Bird" year. For each bird year you can go over the salary cap to "sign" half their contract.
Example: Alex Rance has been on Dublin's roster for 3 years and currently has a contract of $700,000. Next year Dublin can sign him for the same except on 50% gets counted to their salary cap.

MLE:
For teams that are at/over the cap they are eligible to sign as many free agents for a minimum salary.
Example: Dublin has 39 out of 40 players on their roster. So they are given an extra Lets say $150,000 to sign one "free agent"
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 27, 2016, 04:47:57 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 27, 2016, 04:44:09 PM
So this is just a more complex way of trading?

The end result is the same as if we were to just trade, but with more complexity and less control to retain?

I think I would prefer us to refine and improve the current rules for WXV first before we start bringing in more features

Issues like trade voting, total points scored vs % etc are thing I'd like us to be discussing and trying to improve before we started looking at more new things to introduce

I'd argue this is refining a current rule - the issue of a cap, which people have always had feedback on.

There's no reason we can't discuss caps, voting and % at the same time. They are all basically mutually exclusive...

Quote from: Levi434 on July 27, 2016, 04:44:20 PM
I should start my own XVs with some completely insane rules! Tagging, Salary, Gameplans, training, weather, early season trades.


I like the salary cap rule but if it was introduced then some other things such as "bird years" and Mid Level Exception(MLE) would need to come into it.

Bird Years:
For each 3 years a player is on your roster, they gain one "Bird" year. For each bird year you can go over the salary cap to "sign" half their contract.
Example: Alex Rance has been on Dublin's roster for 3 years and currently has a contract of $700,000. Next year Dublin can sign him for the same except on 50% gets counted to their salary cap.

MLE:
For teams that are at/over the cap they are eligible to sign as many free agents for a minimum salary.
Example: Dublin has 39 out of 40 players on their roster. So they are given an extra Lets say $150,000 to sign one "free agent"

Like it, but complexity creeps into it :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 27, 2016, 04:51:07 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 27, 2016, 04:44:09 PM
So this is just a more complex way of trading?

The end result is the same as if we were to just trade, but with more complexity and less control to retain?

I think I would prefer us to refine and improve the current rules for WXV first before we start bringing in more features

Issues like trade voting, total points scored vs % etc are thing I'd like us to be discussing and trying to improve before we started looking at more new things to introduce

not really.

For example if someone ends up taking a Treloar off me and i get a first round pick. Even if that is #1 its robbery. in the AFL it works as the #1 picks are valuable.

But i wouldn't take #1, #2 #5  etc... for Treloar.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on July 27, 2016, 04:54:00 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 27, 2016, 04:47:57 PM
Like it, but complexity creeps into it :)

The story of WXV rules ^

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 27, 2016, 04:56:14 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 27, 2016, 04:51:07 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 27, 2016, 04:44:09 PM
So this is just a more complex way of trading?

The end result is the same as if we were to just trade, but with more complexity and less control to retain?

I think I would prefer us to refine and improve the current rules for WXV first before we start bringing in more features

Issues like trade voting, total points scored vs % etc are thing I'd like us to be discussing and trying to improve before we started looking at more new things to introduce

not really.

For example if someone ends up taking a Treloar off me and i get a first round pick. Even if that is #1 its robbery. in the AFL it works as the #1 picks are valuable.

But i wouldn't take #1, #2 #5  etc... for Treloar.

Which is why you'd keep Treloar.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 27, 2016, 05:02:47 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 27, 2016, 04:56:14 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 27, 2016, 04:51:07 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 27, 2016, 04:44:09 PM
So this is just a more complex way of trading?

The end result is the same as if we were to just trade, but with more complexity and less control to retain?

I think I would prefer us to refine and improve the current rules for WXV first before we start bringing in more features

Issues like trade voting, total points scored vs % etc are thing I'd like us to be discussing and trying to improve before we started looking at more new things to introduce

not really.

For example if someone ends up taking a Treloar off me and i get a first round pick. Even if that is #1 its robbery. in the AFL it works as the #1 picks are valuable.

But i wouldn't take #1, #2 #5  etc... for Treloar.

Which is why you'd keep Treloar.

ok so i give an example.

someone bids big on Goldy i match it
someone bids big on Sloane i match it
someone bids big on Dmart i match it
someone bids big on rance i match it
then others bid on selwood, , etc..

im out of money and then 3 bids come in for Gunston, Jroo, Buddy.

now my forward line is gone and i have a bunch of stars that i have paid big for and i struggle to make the 8. I cant go and out poach anyone as people protect them and i used all my cap on other players.

so in compensation best case scenario I get pick 1,2,3 worse case 19,20,21.

thats my team gone.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 27, 2016, 05:06:39 PM

Yes, that could happen Holz. You'd be able keep your best players
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on July 27, 2016, 05:10:33 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 27, 2016, 05:02:47 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 27, 2016, 04:56:14 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 27, 2016, 04:51:07 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 27, 2016, 04:44:09 PM
So this is just a more complex way of trading?

The end result is the same as if we were to just trade, but with more complexity and less control to retain?

I think I would prefer us to refine and improve the current rules for WXV first before we start bringing in more features

Issues like trade voting, total points scored vs % etc are thing I'd like us to be discussing and trying to improve before we started looking at more new things to introduce

not really.

For example if someone ends up taking a Treloar off me and i get a first round pick. Even if that is #1 its robbery. in the AFL it works as the #1 picks are valuable.

But i wouldn't take #1, #2 #5  etc... for Treloar.

Which is why you'd keep Treloar.

ok so i give an example.

someone bids big on Goldy i match it
someone bids big on Sloane i match it
someone bids big on Dmart i match it
someone bids big on rance i match it
then others bid on selwood, , etc..

im out of money and then 3 bids come in for Gunston, Jroo, Buddy.

now my forward line is gone and i have a bunch of stars that i have paid big for and i struggle to make the 8. I cant go and out poach anyone as people protect them and i used all my cap on other players.

so in compensation best case scenario I get pick 1,2,3 worse case 19,20,21.

thats my team gone.

See this is where my Bird year rule can come into it.

It would matter too much if that did happen to Dublin as they would be able to match bid on newer guys such as Treloar. Whilst you could go over the cap to sign Goldy, Selwood, Rance It wouldn't be such a stretch to sign the others.


Another idea is that since everyone is going to have a contract under this salary cap, how about only people who are out of contract can be poached?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on July 27, 2016, 05:11:39 PM
That's where strategy comes into it.

Would it be better to let Rance go, considering he isn't of supreme average and try to save a forward?

Also, where did you get 19/20/21 from? Worst case 16/17/18 and considering you'll be top 3 there goes a pick.

Also keep in mind it's unlikely the higher ranked teams will be able to bid high, as they have to cover their own players. It's more likely they'll bid on younger guns.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 27, 2016, 05:18:41 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on July 27, 2016, 05:11:39 PM
That's where strategy comes into it.

Would it be better to let Rance go, considering he isn't of supreme average and try to save a forward?

Also, where did you get 19/20/21 from? Worst case 16/17/18 and considering you'll be top 3 there goes a pick.

Also keep in mind it's unlikely the higher ranked teams will be able to bid high, as they have to cover their own players. It's more likely they'll bid on younger guns.

because 18 teams. so if its a pick after my pick then im assuming i win (worse case) then i get 19,20,21.

but thats exactly another floor. established players have huge base salaries.

the system is too complex. so if we use 3 year average.

first up mids become overpriced. a 100 defender is worth twice as much as a 100 mid.

secondly age works against players.

Joel Selwood has a 3 year average of 113.
marcus Bontempelli has a 3 year average of 96
how do you value Jaeger Omera.
Jacob Weiteiring is valued at 65
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 27, 2016, 05:22:11 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on July 27, 2016, 04:44:20 PM
Tagging, Salary, Gameplans, training, weather, early season trades.

I REALLY want Tagging, Confidence, Weather and Gameplans introduced to Worlds. Heck, I could even get behind the salary cap.

We have a great comp... adding strategy is only a good thing, and I'm for it.

But I think the obstacle that none of these ideas will overcome, is that 1) on the whole, people are resistant to change, and 2) WXVs would start to look like something entirely different than to what everyone signed up for. Whether that's for the better or worse doesn't matter, it's borderlining on a new game, when everyone wanted to play Worlds as it is.

But I can't stress enough, I'd love to see some, if not all, of these ideas implemented. I'm just pessimistic about whether they'll voted to come in  :-\
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on July 27, 2016, 05:24:23 PM
I think that's sort of the point Holz; pretty sure a salary cap is supposed to promote evenness. You would lose a lot of good players, but you have a significantly better team than most.

I'm totally open to a cap, but it would drastically change the competition. It's a moral/ethical debate tbh. It decides the future of this competition; do we want to be more like the NBA, where players are bounced around all the time, where new teams are able to rapidly improve resulting in more frequent cycles of premiership contention (in theory), where complex management is essential to success; or should we stick with what we've got, where trading is the only real movement (which to be fair already promotes a hefty chunk of movement in the offseason), where teams are able to have incomparable sustained long term success - more like the AFL with Hawthorn, Sydney, Geelong's recent dominance and no real "bottoming out" - in WXV, because the best teams have the best assets, they can maintain success as the only way they currently lose players is by choice, and that lost is replaced by something that is deemed as equal value.

If it was there for the comps inception, player lists like Dublin + Mexico wouldn't exist, so there'd be no debate from the people that are drastically disadvantaged (i.e. Holz) but to bring it in at this stage is going to come under a lot of scrutiny - and does seem kinda cruel to the guys that have worked hard to build their list.

If we're all for it though then flower holz you can quit if you want tbh :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on July 27, 2016, 05:30:38 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 27, 2016, 05:22:11 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on July 27, 2016, 04:44:20 PM
Tagging, Salary, Gameplans, training, weather, early season trades.

I REALLY want Tagging, Confidence, Weather and Gameplans introduced to Worlds. Heck, I could even get behind the salary cap.

We have a great comp... adding strategy is only a good thing, and I'm for it.

But I think the obstacle that none of these ideas will overcome, is that 1) on the whole, people are resistant to change, and 2) WXVs would start to look like something entirely different than to what everyone signed up for. Whether that's for the better or worse doesn't matter, it's borderlining on a new game, when everyone wanted to play Worlds as it is.

But I can't stress enough, I'd love to see some, if not all, of these ideas implemented. I'm just pessimistic about whether they'll voted to come in  :-\
Taggng and Confidence are two things I think could be done very well, Weather's randomness is unnecessary I think and Game Plans are a bit too out there for the moment. If anything, just make it able to Flood/Attack at any point during the season.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on July 27, 2016, 05:35:33 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 27, 2016, 05:18:41 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on July 27, 2016, 05:11:39 PM
That's where strategy comes into it.

Would it be better to let Rance go, considering he isn't of supreme average and try to save a forward?

Also, where did you get 19/20/21 from? Worst case 16/17/18 and considering you'll be top 3 there goes a pick.

Also keep in mind it's unlikely the higher ranked teams will be able to bid high, as they have to cover their own players. It's more likely they'll bid on younger guns.

because 18 teams. so if its a pick after my pick then im assuming i win (worse case) then i get 19,20,21.

but thats exactly another floor. established players have huge base salaries.

the system is too complex. so if we use 3 year average.

first up mids become overpriced. a 100 defender is worth twice as much as a 100 mid.

secondly age works against players.

Joel Selwood has a 3 year average of 113.
marcus Bontempelli has a 3 year average of 96
how do you value Jaeger Omera.
Jacob Weiteiring is valued at 65
The three year average thing is a difficult issue and one of the many intricacies that would have to be ironed out. Unfortunately I'm not sure there's a formulaic solution, but I would suggest that with the forwards/defenders a players ranking on average amongst other players in their position should determine their price. OR (and I just thought of this while writing) you SHOULD have to pay more for your midfielders (higher averages) because chances are you're playing 6 of them.

Your argument about Jeager is essentially pointless though because the underlying theme is about how the coaches value him - if he's given the price tag for a 94 average then people have to decide whether they average him 50% more than that, and likewise if he's given a reduced salary because of his injury.

It would only matter for teams cap room/overall salary, which I suppose I have ignored, but isn't the essential debate to bringing in a cap imo.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 27, 2016, 05:39:19 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on July 27, 2016, 05:24:23 PM
I think that's sort of the point Holz; pretty sure a salary cap is supposed to promote evenness. You would lose a lot of good players, but you have a significantly better team than most.

I'm totally open to a cap, but it would drastically change the competition. It's a moral/ethical debate tbh. It decides the future of this competition; do we want to be more like the NBA, where players are bounced around all the time, where new teams are able to rapidly improve resulting in more frequent cycles of premiership contention (in theory), where complex management is essential to success; or should we stick with what we've got, where trading is the only real movement (which to be fair already promotes a hefty chunk of movement in the offseason), where teams are able to have incomparable sustained long term success - more like the AFL with Hawthorn, Sydney, Geelong's recent dominance and no real "bottoming out" - in WXV, because the best teams have the best assets, they can maintain success as the only way they currently lose players is by choice, and that lost is replaced by something that is deemed as equal value.

If it was there for the comps inception, player lists like Dublin + Mexico wouldn't exist, so there'd be no debate from the people that are drastically disadvantaged (i.e. Holz) but to bring it in at this stage is going to come under a lot of scrutiny - and does seem kinda cruel to the guys that have worked hard to build their list.

If we're all for it though then flower holz you can quit if you want tbh :P

I wouldnt quit, i care about Dublin too much :P

by the way Mexico will be gone at some point. look at the list it will be shot in a few years. If you really want to equalize the comp teams should stop trading youth to the top teams for players over 27.

Unless you can continually find talent that others miss e.g. Robbie Gray then you cant possibly stay on top.

Dublin personally plans on trading away its youth for players in the late 20s. if people let that happen then its only a matter of time before they fall. Thats what happend with the dillos. Its what happens in the real comps too look at hawks they have been top for years but at some point they fall.

90s North, early 2000 Brisbane, The Gellong Dynasty nobody can last.

others will rise, Pacific is my tip as one of the next powerhouse teams if Jay plays it right.

Dublin has been dominant yes but we have sliped from last year already. Remember it was only 2012 that I was the wooden spooner and 2013 that i didnt make finals,  Seems a long time as that the length of this comp but its not really.

check out Mexico in a few years.

Def: M Broadbent (Port), M Baguley (Ess), J Laidler (Syd), D Buckley (Carl), J Gwilt (Ess), J Marsh (Coll), N Newman (Syd), B White (StK), T Leonardis (Syd)

Mid: T Rockliff (Bris), T Cotchin (Rich), B Ebert (Port), C Ellis-Yolmen (Adel), M Whiley (Carl), J Townsend (Rich), D Robinson (Syd), G Hewett (Syd), J Cunico (Geel), R Davis (GC)

Ruck: S Hampson (Rich), S Michael (Ess)

Fwd:  H Bennell (Freo), S Gray (Port), , J Sicily (Haw), J Saunders (StK), L McBean (Rich), J Rose (Syd), R McKenzie (Rich), T Papley (Syd)

Rookie List: J Palmer (Port), N Coughlan (StK), S Shaw (Adel), M Korcheck (Carl), L Melican (Syd)


Looks pretty bad when you factor in they wont be getting any picks.


now look at say Moscow and remember they are getting a top 5 pick to add to the team.

Def: S Docherty (Carl), C Hooker (Ess), P Seedsman (Adel), N Vlastuin (Rich), M Scharenberg (Coll), C Pearce (Freo),], J Hombsch (Port), J Frawley (Haw), E Hipwood (Bris), S May (GC), A Pearce (Freo), T Barrass (WC)

Mid: D Heppell (Ess), J O’Meara (GC), L Greenwood (Coll), R Bastinac (Bris), J Polkinghorne (Ess), B Newton (Melb), J Pickett (GWS), R Clarke (NM), S Menegola (Geel)

Ruck: N Naitanui (WC), M Pittonet (Haw)

Fwd: R Gray (Port), T Bell (Bris), J Hogan (Melb), T Vickery (Rich), D Sheed (WC), J Simpkin (Ess), J Daniher (Ess), , H Ballantyne (Freo), D Moore (Coll), W Milera (Adel), R Burton (Haw), J Sinclair (StK), F McInnes (WC), S Weideman (Melb), C Gault (Coll), T Lee (StK)

Rookie List: B Payne (StK), K Ramsey (Adel), D Terlich (Melb), A Keath (Adel), C Delaney (NM)




Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 27, 2016, 05:40:09 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 27, 2016, 05:18:41 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on July 27, 2016, 05:11:39 PM
That's where strategy comes into it.

Would it be better to let Rance go, considering he isn't of supreme average and try to save a forward?

Also, where did you get 19/20/21 from? Worst case 16/17/18 and considering you'll be top 3 there goes a pick.

Also keep in mind it's unlikely the higher ranked teams will be able to bid high, as they have to cover their own players. It's more likely they'll bid on younger guns.

because 18 teams. so if its a pick after my pick then im assuming i win (worse case) then i get 19,20,21.

but thats exactly another floor. established players have huge base salaries.

the system is too complex. so if we use 3 year average.

first up mids become overpriced. a 100 defender is worth twice as much as a 100 mid.

secondly age works against players.

Joel Selwood has a 3 year average of 113.
marcus Bontempelli has a 3 year average of 96
how do you value Jaeger Omera.
Jacob Weiteiring is valued at 65

I still don't know where you got picks 19-21 from. It would be first round picks.

3 year average takes away injury prone years which i think is nore accurate
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 27, 2016, 05:43:27 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 27, 2016, 05:40:09 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 27, 2016, 05:18:41 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on July 27, 2016, 05:11:39 PM
That's where strategy comes into it.

Would it be better to let Rance go, considering he isn't of supreme average and try to save a forward?

Also, where did you get 19/20/21 from? Worst case 16/17/18 and considering you'll be top 3 there goes a pick.

Also keep in mind it's unlikely the higher ranked teams will be able to bid high, as they have to cover their own players. It's more likely they'll bid on younger guns.

because 18 teams. so if its a pick after my pick then im assuming i win (worse case) then i get 19,20,21.

but thats exactly another floor. established players have huge base salaries.

the system is too complex. so if we use 3 year average.

first up mids become overpriced. a 100 defender is worth twice as much as a 100 mid.

secondly age works against players.

Joel Selwood has a 3 year average of 113.
marcus Bontempelli has a 3 year average of 96
how do you value Jaeger Omera.
Jacob Weiteiring is valued at 65

I still don't know where you got picks 19-21 from. It would be first round picks.

3 year average takes away injury prone years which i think is nore accurate

18 teams in the comp. If Hawks get a first round compo and they win they get the pick after 18 dont they?

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 27, 2016, 05:56:45 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 27, 2016, 05:43:27 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 27, 2016, 05:40:09 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 27, 2016, 05:18:41 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on July 27, 2016, 05:11:39 PM
That's where strategy comes into it.

Would it be better to let Rance go, considering he isn't of supreme average and try to save a forward?

Also, where did you get 19/20/21 from? Worst case 16/17/18 and considering you'll be top 3 there goes a pick.

Also keep in mind it's unlikely the higher ranked teams will be able to bid high, as they have to cover their own players. It's more likely they'll bid on younger guns.

because 18 teams. so if its a pick after my pick then im assuming i win (worse case) then i get 19,20,21.

but thats exactly another floor. established players have huge base salaries.

the system is too complex. so if we use 3 year average.

first up mids become overpriced. a 100 defender is worth twice as much as a 100 mid.

secondly age works against players.

Joel Selwood has a 3 year average of 113.
marcus Bontempelli has a 3 year average of 96
how do you value Jaeger Omera.
Jacob Weiteiring is valued at 65

I still don't know where you got picks 19-21 from. It would be first round picks.

3 year average takes away injury prone years which i think is nore accurate

18 teams in the comp. If Hawks get a first round compo and they win they get the pick after 18 dont they?

If you read what was said holz, the team who poached the player would have to give you its first round pick. So it will be somewhere between 1 and 18 (barring priority)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 27, 2016, 05:58:20 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 27, 2016, 05:56:45 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 27, 2016, 05:43:27 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 27, 2016, 05:40:09 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 27, 2016, 05:18:41 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on July 27, 2016, 05:11:39 PM
That's where strategy comes into it.

Would it be better to let Rance go, considering he isn't of supreme average and try to save a forward?

Also, where did you get 19/20/21 from? Worst case 16/17/18 and considering you'll be top 3 there goes a pick.

Also keep in mind it's unlikely the higher ranked teams will be able to bid high, as they have to cover their own players. It's more likely they'll bid on younger guns.

because 18 teams. so if its a pick after my pick then im assuming i win (worse case) then i get 19,20,21.

but thats exactly another floor. established players have huge base salaries.

the system is too complex. so if we use 3 year average.

first up mids become overpriced. a 100 defender is worth twice as much as a 100 mid.

secondly age works against players.

Joel Selwood has a 3 year average of 113.
marcus Bontempelli has a 3 year average of 96
how do you value Jaeger Omera.
Jacob Weiteiring is valued at 65

I still don't know where you got picks 19-21 from. It would be first round picks.

3 year average takes away injury prone years which i think is nore accurate

18 teams in the comp. If Hawks get a first round compo and they win they get the pick after 18 dont they?

If you read what was said holz, the team who poached the player would have to give you its first round pick. So it will be somewhere between 1 and 18 (barring priority)

ok my bad, missed that point.

so really its a big difference if the wooden spooner or if say the 10th placed team poaches my players.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on July 27, 2016, 06:09:49 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 27, 2016, 05:22:11 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on July 27, 2016, 04:44:20 PM
Tagging, Salary, Gameplans, training, weather, early season trades.

I REALLY want Tagging, Confidence, Weather and Gameplans introduced to Worlds. Heck, I could even get behind the salary cap.

We have a great comp... adding strategy is only a good thing, and I'm for it.

But I think the obstacle that none of these ideas will overcome, is that 1) on the whole, people are resistant to change, and 2) WXVs would start to look like something entirely different than to what everyone signed up for. Whether that's for the better or worse doesn't matter, it's borderlining on a new game, when everyone wanted to play Worlds as it is.

But I can't stress enough, I'd love to see some, if not all, of these ideas implemented. I'm just pessimistic about whether they'll voted to come in  :-\

How about we just have a trial week(s) where we just give EVERYTHING a go?

I think people wouldn't be opposed to trying out a few new rules and they would be more likely to pass a rule change if they've had a look at it.

We could easily hold it in week 2 and/or 3 of finals. It may take away a bit from finals, but I think it is worth it to get the rules 100%.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 27, 2016, 06:15:14 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on July 27, 2016, 06:09:49 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 27, 2016, 05:22:11 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on July 27, 2016, 04:44:20 PM
Tagging, Salary, Gameplans, training, weather, early season trades.

I REALLY want Tagging, Confidence, Weather and Gameplans introduced to Worlds. Heck, I could even get behind the salary cap.

We have a great comp... adding strategy is only a good thing, and I'm for it.

But I think the obstacle that none of these ideas will overcome, is that 1) on the whole, people are resistant to change, and 2) WXVs would start to look like something entirely different than to what everyone signed up for. Whether that's for the better or worse doesn't matter, it's borderlining on a new game, when everyone wanted to play Worlds as it is.

But I can't stress enough, I'd love to see some, if not all, of these ideas implemented. I'm just pessimistic about whether they'll voted to come in  :-\

How about we just have a trial week(s) where we just give EVERYTHING a go?

I think people wouldn't be opposed to trying out a few new rules and they would be more likely to pass a rule change if they've had a look at it.

We could easily hold it in week 2 and/or 3 of finals. It may take away a bit from finals, but I think it is worth it to get the rules 100%.

rules to add strategy i would support as long as the control of your players is obtained. So tag, flood, confidence all you want.

something like a hot streak for a player where they cant score below 75% of their monthly average for example. So if Rory Sloane is on fire going 130 140 120 130 he is the on a hot streak and if he scores a 70 in real life he gets bumped up to 98.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 27, 2016, 06:16:26 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on July 27, 2016, 06:09:49 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 27, 2016, 05:22:11 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on July 27, 2016, 04:44:20 PM
Tagging, Salary, Gameplans, training, weather, early season trades.

I REALLY want Tagging, Confidence, Weather and Gameplans introduced to Worlds. Heck, I could even get behind the salary cap.

We have a great comp... adding strategy is only a good thing, and I'm for it.

But I think the obstacle that none of these ideas will overcome, is that 1) on the whole, people are resistant to change, and 2) WXVs would start to look like something entirely different than to what everyone signed up for. Whether that's for the better or worse doesn't matter, it's borderlining on a new game, when everyone wanted to play Worlds as it is.

But I can't stress enough, I'd love to see some, if not all, of these ideas implemented. I'm just pessimistic about whether they'll voted to come in  :-\

How about we just have a trial week(s) where we just give EVERYTHING a go?

I think people wouldn't be opposed to trying out a few new rules and they would be more likely to pass a rule change if they've had a look at it.

We could easily hold it in week 2 and/or 3 of finals. It may take away a bit from finals, but I think it is worth it to get the rules 100%.

Hmm, dunno. I'd like to try it out, but I want the finals to be all about the teams involved, as they've earned the spotlight.

I'd happily do it in private, and release the results after the finals results have been announced, then post it in this thread even, as part of the argument "for" these rules?

Or I could do it publicly if people were fine with that too.

Quote from: Holz on July 27, 2016, 06:15:14 PM
something like a hot streak for a player where they cant score below 75% of their monthly average for example. So if Rory Sloane is on fire going 130 140 120 130 he is the on a hot streak and if he scores a 70 in real life he gets bumped up to 98.

Another interesting idea!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 27, 2016, 06:17:51 PM
No.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 27, 2016, 06:21:36 PM
I mean yes.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 27, 2016, 06:27:14 PM
Cairo flowered themselves by giving me Blakely for nothing. Self inflicted. They shouldn't be able to steal Gibbs just because they're crap at this game and somebody wants it to be even.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 27, 2016, 06:28:38 PM
A well thought through salary cap and contract system would add another interesting layer of strategy to this fine competition.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on July 27, 2016, 06:32:45 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 27, 2016, 06:28:38 PM
A well thought through salary cap and contract system would add another interesting layer of strategy to this fine competition.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on July 27, 2016, 06:40:24 PM
If people are against running the trial at the same time as the finals, we could wait until offseason and just do a silly thing where players get a random score from their past 2 seasons to try out some rules.

Otherwise I have no problem with doing it in private/public whatever is chosen.

I simply think it's a better idea to try the rules this season opposed to waiting for next years NAB.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 27, 2016, 07:42:21 PM
Having to give up a first round draft pick is all well and good but doesn't it favour the top teams too much? If I am paying Sandi 400K do you think Cairo would give up 600K and pick 1 for him, or would Mexico City be more likely to part way with the cashola and the pathetic pick?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 27, 2016, 07:51:42 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 27, 2016, 07:42:21 PM
Having to give up a first round draft pick is all well and good but doesn't it favour the top teams too much? If I am paying Sandi 400K do you think Cairo would give up 600K and pick 1 for him, or would Mexico City be more likely to part way with the cashola and the pathetic pick?

Correct and i would hate top teams poachimg from me more then bottom teams
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 27, 2016, 08:06:38 PM
If we were going to have a salary cap we should be mimicking the AFL as closely as possible.

We should be able to pay our players whatever we want, for as long as we want.

We shouldn't be able to poach players still under contract, but we should be able to trade our players any time we want (at their current rate) if the other team picks up their contract.

Then we've got to ask if we can front load contracts and all that. Shouldn't be a problem if done correctly, but we shouldn't be able to sign WXV contracts longer than players are AFL contracted for.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 27, 2016, 08:22:36 PM
This is sounding more and more complex with plenty of intricacies that probably haven't even been identified yet. By the time it has been flushed out and every scenario has been considered with it's correlating rules this could get way too big

I don't mind the idea of using a salary cap at all, but I do mind if it's going to make things really complex

Finding a way to simplify this and make it fair to all is going to be the real challenge, and may not even be possible

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 27, 2016, 08:28:33 PM
Just whipped up a quick salary cap.

700   1   700
650   4   2600
440   5   2200
330   5   1650
220   6   1320
80    19  1520
        40  9990

Got 19 players on minimum wage since none of them are worth a first round draft pick so nobody would be poaching them.
Is Ben Reid worth 495K and a first round pick? Would anyone pay 1.05 million for Gibbs? 975K for Stringer, Breust, Hartlett or Stevens? Maybe. Maybe not. Interesting.


Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 27, 2016, 08:37:20 PM
The greater the fish you poach, the more disadvantaged you'd be. If Pacific pay Bont the million he's worth, I'd have to give myself a salary cap of 500K less that every other team in the comp to grab him.

Gibbs @ 700K + Stringer @ 650K + Ryan Lester @ 80K + Tory Dickson @ 80K vs Bont @ 1.5 Million? Keep him!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on July 27, 2016, 08:42:43 PM
But that's a classic risk versus reward scenario.

One would argue that it would be better to have the masses than that couple of guns. That would be the main thing in this sort of rule change.

I personally like the idea of locking in a "Salary Cap" First, and then say we have to allocate amounts/years to commit to our players and then work from there with the Poaching idea.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on July 27, 2016, 08:45:24 PM
Also, what happens if someone trades away their first rounder?  ;)
Best idea would be to allocate a certain Price level, and dedicate a number of players to that level which would be sacrificed in the result of a poach?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 27, 2016, 08:58:36 PM
I'd assume, like the AFL, they'd be a poaching period (i.e. Free Agency) before the trade period?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 27, 2016, 09:00:55 PM
Perfect plan sell a star for 2 solid players then poach them next year.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 27, 2016, 09:06:41 PM
Identifying a player's initial value will be nearly impossible. Sure, you could base it on prior averages but that doesn't cover everything.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 27, 2016, 09:18:22 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 27, 2016, 06:27:14 PM
Cairo flowered themselves by giving me Blakely for nothing.
I still regret this.  :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 27, 2016, 09:23:17 PM
How do you maintain a full list of 40 and rookies, poach players and keep it all under the cap?

There would be heaps of scenarios where teams have poached a few players or lost a few and your either under the cap but don't have a full list (which is required) or vice versa

Unless you end up trading equal value overall for equal value, you're going to have less or more than 40 on the list, which means some teams will have to have 40+ while some under 40

Almost sounds like a completely new XV comp needs to be created to roll this out from the beginning, because a change like this is going to undo a lot of hard work from previous years for all of us

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 27, 2016, 09:29:51 PM
Quote from: Nige on July 27, 2016, 09:18:22 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 27, 2016, 06:27:14 PM
Cairo flowered themselves by giving me Blakely for nothing.
I still regret this.  :(

You've got picks 1 and 20 don't you? Blakely is/will be better than Will Brodie so you'd need to include the 2nd rounder too.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 27, 2016, 09:40:59 PM
Quote from: Nige on July 27, 2016, 09:18:22 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 27, 2016, 06:27:14 PM
Cairo flowered themselves by giving me Blakely for nothing.
I still regret this.  :(

Thats nothing i gave away neale for nothing. Imagine dublin with neale thats game over
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on July 27, 2016, 11:48:45 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 27, 2016, 09:23:17 PM
How do you maintain a full list of 40 and rookies, poach players and keep it all under the cap?

There would be heaps of scenarios where teams have poached a few players or lost a few and your either under the cap but don't have a full list (which is required) or vice versa

Unless you end up trading equal value overall for equal value, you're going to have less or more than 40 on the list, which means some teams will have to have 40+ while some under 40

Almost sounds like a completely new XV comp needs to be created to roll this out from the beginning, because a change like this is going to undo a lot of hard work from previous years for all of us

How about we have a hard cap then?

So lets say the Salary Cap is $10mil.

If you go at all over you lose your 1st round pick. Then for each $250,000 after that you lose another draft pick.

Basically then there is a punishment for going over? But teams may still weigh up if going over is worth it.

With this though I could see people trading away all their assets for a shot at the cup and not worry about the future. Or just quit after they win.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on July 28, 2016, 01:01:23 AM
Quote from: Levi434 on July 27, 2016, 11:48:45 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 27, 2016, 09:23:17 PM
How do you maintain a full list of 40 and rookies, poach players and keep it all under the cap?

There would be heaps of scenarios where teams have poached a few players or lost a few and your either under the cap but don't have a full list (which is required) or vice versa

Unless you end up trading equal value overall for equal value, you're going to have less or more than 40 on the list, which means some teams will have to have 40+ while some under 40

Almost sounds like a completely new XV comp needs to be created to roll this out from the beginning, because a change like this is going to undo a lot of hard work from previous years for all of us

How about we have a hard cap then?

So lets say the Salary Cap is $10mil.

If you go at all over you lose your 1st round pick. Then for each $250,000 after that you lose another draft pick.

Basically then there is a punishment for going over? But teams may still weigh up if going over is worth it.

With this though I could see people trading away all their assets for a shot at the cup and not worry about the future. Or just quit after they win.
Then you'd just trade away all your picks :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on July 28, 2016, 01:17:54 AM
I'm just reading this all, will comment in good time when I'm not too busy thinking about data stuff :P.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 28, 2016, 10:04:33 AM
Quote from: My Chumps on July 28, 2016, 01:01:23 AM
Quote from: Levi434 on July 27, 2016, 11:48:45 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 27, 2016, 09:23:17 PM
How do you maintain a full list of 40 and rookies, poach players and keep it all under the cap?

There would be heaps of scenarios where teams have poached a few players or lost a few and your either under the cap but don't have a full list (which is required) or vice versa

Unless you end up trading equal value overall for equal value, you're going to have less or more than 40 on the list, which means some teams will have to have 40+ while some under 40

Almost sounds like a completely new XV comp needs to be created to roll this out from the beginning, because a change like this is going to undo a lot of hard work from previous years for all of us

How about we have a hard cap then?

So lets say the Salary Cap is $10mil.

If you go at all over you lose your 1st round pick. Then for each $250,000 after that you lose another draft pick.

Basically then there is a punishment for going over? But teams may still weigh up if going over is worth it.

With this though I could see people trading away all their assets for a shot at the cup and not worry about the future. Or just quit after they win.
Then you'd just trade away all your picks :P

I think the robbing period is before the trade period.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 28, 2016, 10:15:47 AM
Just saw Dustin Martin's heat map, possible D/M?

:P

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-07-26/the-stats-files-is-dustin-martin-doing-enough-damage
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 28, 2016, 10:26:00 AM
Like I said in the DPP thread in SC, needs to be 35%+ so he will be Mid only :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 28, 2016, 10:53:07 AM
Do you even watch football Holz? He gets cheap kicks across half back playing as a roaming midfielder. Where players are in relation to the ball at stoppages is the easiest way to predict what positions they get classified as and Dustin is right there at those stoppages every time. There's lots of them in Richmond's back half since they're shower.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 28, 2016, 10:57:39 AM
Quote from: meow meow on July 28, 2016, 10:53:07 AM
Do you even watch football Holz? He gets cheap kicks across half back playing as a roaming midfielder. Where players are in relation to the ball at stoppages is the easiest way to predict what positions they get classified as and Dustin is right there at those stoppages every time. There's lots of them in Richmond's back half since they're shower.

to answer your question not I actually dont watch Richmond games, I havent since last years North v Richmond finals game. Hence why i make a post asking the question if he gets it once i see a heat map that shows him gettting ball in defence.

im fine with him being a mid only, he has been killing it in the guts.

good to know its not where they win the ball and where the line up. That seems stupid to me but if thats the guide line so be it. I personally line up on the wing but get bascially 100% of my ball 75m from goal. I personally call myself a F/M but i guess i would be a mid only.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 28, 2016, 11:13:50 AM
Quote from: Holz on July 28, 2016, 10:57:39 AM
I personally line up on the wing but get bascially 100% of my ball 75m from goal.

LOL, isn't 75 metres from the goal the wing anyway?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: iZander on July 28, 2016, 11:18:48 AM
Quote from: Holz on July 28, 2016, 10:15:47 AM
Just saw Dustin Martin's heat map, possible D/M?

:P

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-07-26/the-stats-files-is-dustin-martin-doing-enough-damage
Heat maps have nothing to do with positions haha
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 28, 2016, 11:20:15 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 28, 2016, 11:13:50 AM
Quote from: Holz on July 28, 2016, 10:57:39 AM
I personally line up on the wing but get bascially 100% of my ball 75m from goal.

LOL, isn't 75 metres from the goal the wing anyway?
nah where i line up is around 80m. 75m is just before the centre bounce.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 28, 2016, 11:22:14 AM
Quote from: iZander on July 28, 2016, 11:18:48 AM
Quote from: Holz on July 28, 2016, 10:15:47 AM
Just saw Dustin Martin's heat map, possible D/M?

:P

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-07-26/the-stats-files-is-dustin-martin-doing-enough-damage
Heat maps have nothing to do with positions haha

If this is true i have been misinformed. This is what i read.

There are a range of factors that go into making the decision to upgrade a player. The major ones being;

Where players get their possessions. This can be highlighted by heat maps (which the regular Joe punter can find via the ‘coach’ section of the AFL Live app if you have purchased the season pass) which show hot spots for disposals and also the percentages in forward and defensive halves. Darker areas on heatmaps show more traffic for possessions.

Which zones they get their touches. Like the above dot point, these are broken down into forward 50, defensive 50, midfield zone, forward half, defensive half, attacking midfield and defensive midfield adding more than what the heat maps show.

Where players line up. Where players are situated for bounces and stoppages have a factor on DPP additions. The biggest one for this that have been found this year is that a lot of wingers are getting a lot of ball in the back half, despite not playing as a defender. More on that later.

It is a mix of the above and looking into other stats that can help finalise decisions such as centre bounce attendances, game play for different teams, among others.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 28, 2016, 11:23:24 AM
Quote from: meow meow on July 27, 2016, 08:06:38 PM
If we were going to have a salary cap we should be mimicking the AFL as closely as possible.

We should be able to pay our players whatever we want, for as long as we want.

We shouldn't be able to poach players still under contract, but we should be able to trade our players any time we want (at their current rate) if the other team picks up their contract.

Then we've got to ask if we can front load contracts and all that. Shouldn't be a problem if done correctly, but we shouldn't be able to sign WXV contracts longer than players are AFL contracted for.

Can't happen that way because our players have no free will

Quote from: meow meow on July 27, 2016, 09:06:41 PM
Identifying a player's initial value will be nearly impossible. Sure, you could base it on prior averages but that doesn't cover everything.

The initial value is the average. The market would determine actual value

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 27, 2016, 09:23:17 PM
How do you maintain a full list of 40 and rookies, poach players and keep it all under the cap?

There would be heaps of scenarios where teams have poached a few players or lost a few and your either under the cap but don't have a full list (which is required) or vice versa

Unless you end up trading equal value overall for equal value, you're going to have less or more than 40 on the list, which means some teams will have to have 40+ while some under 40

Almost sounds like a completely new XV comp needs to be created to roll this out from the beginning, because a change like this is going to undo a lot of hard work from previous years for all of us



It would be done before the draft and list lodgements and trade periods. Plenty of time to get under the cap. The minimum might not apply here anymore either.



Just remember not changing something is a decision in itself that will impact the competition going forward.

I think you'll find, especially when the fine details are ironed out, this will add to the enjoyment of the game. Minimal impact to the teams, while allowing desperate teams to fix themselves without relying on the kindness of others

Anyone poaching pays a price. If they don't think it is worth that price, they won't do it.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on July 28, 2016, 11:45:02 AM
Wouldn't this mean we'd have to increase the salary cap every year?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 28, 2016, 11:49:38 AM
Quote from: Levi434 on July 28, 2016, 11:45:02 AM
Wouldn't this mean we'd have to increase the salary cap every year?

I wouldn't think so? SC scores are constant.

If you don't have enough money, you can't afford to poach or pick a player

The trick being getting the salary cap right
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 28, 2016, 11:57:52 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 28, 2016, 11:49:38 AM
Quote from: Levi434 on July 28, 2016, 11:45:02 AM
Wouldn't this mean we'd have to increase the salary cap every year?

I wouldn't think so? SC scores are constant.

If you don't have enough money, you can't afford to poach or pick a player

The trick being getting the salary cap right

Well, if we use SC as an example, they have 10 mill for 30 players.

For arguments sake, lets say the most common starting team consists of:

13 premos; 3 mid pricers and 14 rookies.

Probably just add the salary that is allocated to that 14 rookies, and would you have our salary cap for 44 players?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 28, 2016, 12:10:38 PM
Each individual player doesn't have their own price right?

What about positions? We would need to break down the groups, but lets say we have 450-500k

Is a 450-500k defender worth more than a 450-500k mid? I would think so, so how does that get included in the valuations?

The dollar value groupings would need to be tight too Can't just have something like 400-500k, because the high end up players in that group are much better than the low end, but that would value them the same
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on July 28, 2016, 12:16:10 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 28, 2016, 11:49:38 AM
Quote from: Levi434 on July 28, 2016, 11:45:02 AM
Wouldn't this mean we'd have to increase the salary cap every year?

I wouldn't think so? SC scores are constant.

If you don't have enough money, you can't afford to poach or pick a player

The trick being getting the salary cap right

I mean to be able to keep "homegrown" players?

As cool/uncool as poaching can be, the comp shouldn't completely change to a poaching league. There should still be other ways to build a team.

So if a team decides to build entirely through the draft, they should be able to structure their team so only 3-4 players are out of contract at a time and the cap should allow them to keep their own players.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 28, 2016, 12:24:45 PM
I'd love to introduce a worth-while incentive to keep drafted players btw, either included in a cap or separate.

"Homegrown" or "one-club" players should attract a loyalty bonus IMO
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 28, 2016, 12:29:54 PM
See my problem is this is getting very very complex very fast and actually takes more thought then the actual game. Really if you wanted to start the comp again it would be fine, but coaches plan years into the future and with drastic rule changes its kinda very unfair.

Really instead of a draft you would have an auction system where every player is bid on to establish prices. then the draft you would have salary based on where players are selected. If players are undervalued others will bid them up in the off season. If players are overvalued you can drop their salaries but then i think you should be at risk of getting poached with no opportunity to up the offer etc.. or just 1 oppurtunity.

so Selwood getting older i drop him from 1 million to 650k. someone bids 700k i can then raise him to 800k and if someone bids 850k then he moves.

this system would work fine and be totally fair. Implementing it now 5 years into a comp isnt. 
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on July 28, 2016, 12:30:26 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 28, 2016, 12:24:45 PM
I'd love to introduce a worth-while incentive to keep drafted players btw, either included in a cap or separate.

"Homegrown" or "one-club" players should attract a loyalty bonus IMO
Or alternatively, the poacher needs to pay/give up more to get them.

E.g. if someone is a one club player or in your leadership group, gotta pay up twice their salary and lose your first rounder.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 28, 2016, 12:49:50 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 28, 2016, 12:10:38 PM
Each individual player doesn't have their own price right?

What about positions? We would need to break down the groups, but lets say we have 450-500k

Is a 450-500k defender worth more than a 450-500k mid? I would think so, so how does that get included in the valuations?

The dollar value groupings would need to be tight too Can't just have something like 400-500k, because the high end up players in that group are much better than the low end, but that would value them the same

Each player would have an individual price - based on last 3 years average.

Position prices wouldn't matter, as everyone in that position would be relative to each other

Holz it would be a lot of thought in the off season, just the same in regular


The argument thar it isn't fair to change the rules 5 years in, while undestantable, doesn't really apply. We change rules all the time

You can keep any player you want to keep, but maybe not every player.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 28, 2016, 12:56:15 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 28, 2016, 12:49:50 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 28, 2016, 12:10:38 PM
Each individual player doesn't have their own price right?

What about positions? We would need to break down the groups, but lets say we have 450-500k

Is a 450-500k defender worth more than a 450-500k mid? I would think so, so how does that get included in the valuations?

The dollar value groupings would need to be tight too Can't just have something like 400-500k, because the high end up players in that group are much better than the low end, but that would value them the same

Each player would have an individual price - based on last 3 years average.

Position prices wouldn't matter, as everyone in that position would be relative to each other

Holz it would be a lot of thought in the off season, just the same in regular


The argument thar it isn't fair to change the rules 5 years in, while undestantable, doesn't really apply. We change rules all the time

You can keep any player you want to keep, but maybe not every player.

the ideal strategy is now not to have 10 stars 5 solid players and then no bench. Those teams get destroyed.

having 20 good players would be the optimal thing because you can just steal a gun from one of the teams with 10 stars.

here is a serious question besides being a interesting thing what is this actually trying to add to the comp?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on July 28, 2016, 12:58:51 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 28, 2016, 12:56:15 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 28, 2016, 12:49:50 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 28, 2016, 12:10:38 PM
Each individual player doesn't have their own price right?

What about positions? We would need to break down the groups, but lets say we have 450-500k

Is a 450-500k defender worth more than a 450-500k mid? I would think so, so how does that get included in the valuations?

The dollar value groupings would need to be tight too Can't just have something like 400-500k, because the high end up players in that group are much better than the low end, but that would value them the same

Each player would have an individual price - based on last 3 years average.

Position prices wouldn't matter, as everyone in that position would be relative to each other

Holz it would be a lot of thought in the off season, just the same in regular


The argument thar it isn't fair to change the rules 5 years in, while undestantable, doesn't really apply. We change rules all the time

You can keep any player you want to keep, but maybe not every player.

the ideal strategy is now not to have 10 stars 5 solid players and then no bench. Those teams get destroyed.

having 20 good players would be the optimal thing because you can just steal a gun from one of the teams with 10 stars.

here is a serious question besides being a interesting thing what is this actually trying to add to the comp?
Forced equality? :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: iZander on July 28, 2016, 01:01:25 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 28, 2016, 12:58:51 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 28, 2016, 12:56:15 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 28, 2016, 12:49:50 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 28, 2016, 12:10:38 PM
Each individual player doesn't have their own price right?

What about positions? We would need to break down the groups, but lets say we have 450-500k

Is a 450-500k defender worth more than a 450-500k mid? I would think so, so how does that get included in the valuations?

The dollar value groupings would need to be tight too Can't just have something like 400-500k, because the high end up players in that group are much better than the low end, but that would value them the same

Each player would have an individual price - based on last 3 years average.

Position prices wouldn't matter, as everyone in that position would be relative to each other

Holz it would be a lot of thought in the off season, just the same in regular


The argument thar it isn't fair to change the rules 5 years in, while undestantable, doesn't really apply. We change rules all the time

You can keep any player you want to keep, but maybe not every player.

the ideal strategy is now not to have 10 stars 5 solid players and then no bench. Those teams get destroyed.

having 20 good players would be the optimal thing because you can just steal a gun from one of the teams with 10 stars.

here is a serious question besides being a interesting thing what is this actually trying to add to the comp?
Forced equality? :P
I think there comes a time when if equality is forced too much it defeats the purpose of the game. There is meant to be a winner.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 28, 2016, 01:03:18 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 28, 2016, 12:58:51 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 28, 2016, 12:56:15 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 28, 2016, 12:49:50 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 28, 2016, 12:10:38 PM
Each individual player doesn't have their own price right?

What about positions? We would need to break down the groups, but lets say we have 450-500k

Is a 450-500k defender worth more than a 450-500k mid? I would think so, so how does that get included in the valuations?

The dollar value groupings would need to be tight too Can't just have something like 400-500k, because the high end up players in that group are much better than the low end, but that would value them the same

Each player would have an individual price - based on last 3 years average.

Position prices wouldn't matter, as everyone in that position would be relative to each other

Holz it would be a lot of thought in the off season, just the same in regular


The argument thar it isn't fair to change the rules 5 years in, while undestantable, doesn't really apply. We change rules all the time

You can keep any player you want to keep, but maybe not every player.

the ideal strategy is now not to have 10 stars 5 solid players and then no bench. Those teams get destroyed.

having 20 good players would be the optimal thing because you can just steal a gun from one of the teams with 10 stars.

here is a serious question besides being a interesting thing what is this actually trying to add to the comp?
Forced equality? :P
lets just scrap the ownership of players and have this :P

(http://pre10.deviantart.net/52ca/th/pre/f/2013/284/e/3/everyone_is_a_winner_by_ser1o-d6q2r1t.jpg)

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on July 28, 2016, 01:04:12 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 28, 2016, 01:03:18 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 28, 2016, 12:58:51 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 28, 2016, 12:56:15 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 28, 2016, 12:49:50 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 28, 2016, 12:10:38 PM
Each individual player doesn't have their own price right?

What about positions? We would need to break down the groups, but lets say we have 450-500k

Is a 450-500k defender worth more than a 450-500k mid? I would think so, so how does that get included in the valuations?

The dollar value groupings would need to be tight too Can't just have something like 400-500k, because the high end up players in that group are much better than the low end, but that would value them the same

Each player would have an individual price - based on last 3 years average.

Position prices wouldn't matter, as everyone in that position would be relative to each other

Holz it would be a lot of thought in the off season, just the same in regular


The argument thar it isn't fair to change the rules 5 years in, while undestantable, doesn't really apply. We change rules all the time

You can keep any player you want to keep, but maybe not every player.

the ideal strategy is now not to have 10 stars 5 solid players and then no bench. Those teams get destroyed.

having 20 good players would be the optimal thing because you can just steal a gun from one of the teams with 10 stars.

here is a serious question besides being a interesting thing what is this actually trying to add to the comp?
Forced equality? :P
lets just scrap the ownership of players and have this :P

(http://pre10.deviantart.net/52ca/th/pre/f/2013/284/e/3/everyone_is_a_winner_by_ser1o-d6q2r1t.jpg)
#Karen2017
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 28, 2016, 01:06:48 PM
Stop saying opinions as fact Holz.

Imo This would bring:
- a better and fairer equalization measure than the current cap
- a new strategic element to the game
- a somewhat more realistic approach

Additionally, this rampant negativity that you bring Holz does not elevate the conversation. Disagreeing is fine but saying that the sky is falling for everything, not reading what was actually written, and threatening to quit doesn't help.

I respond to every query and concern you have, and the next thing you do is find something else query and concern. Never do offer alternatives or solutions that others do, or even have a general conversation, it is always just trying to bring the opposing idea down.

So let's just talk. Discuss. Don't try to make this a war of attrition. You know what? You'll win that war, but be wary of what you lose along the way.

I won't be annoyed if this doesn't go through. I will be annoyed if other ideas aren't shared because they are nitpicked into oblivion. We should be trying to innovate at all times, and that means a place that people can feel free to discuss l. Some people have already decided to not bother discussing things.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 28, 2016, 01:08:42 PM
Each team could separate players into 3 groups, however they like, and only 1 player at most can be poached from each group
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 28, 2016, 01:20:54 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 28, 2016, 01:06:48 PM
Stop saying opinions as fact Holz.

This would bring:
- a better and fairer equalization measure than the current cap
- a new strategic element to the game
- a somewhat more realistic approach

Additionally, this rampant negativity that you bring Holz does not elevate the conversation. Disagreeing is fine but saying that the sky is falling for everything, not reading what was actually written, and threatening to quit doesn't help.

I respond to every query and concern you have, and the next thing you do is find something else query and concern. Never do offer alternatives or solutions that others do, or even have a general conversation, it is always just trying to bring the opposing idea down.

So let's just talk. Discuss. Don't try to make this a war of attrition. You know what? You'll win that war, but be wary of what you lose along the way.

I won't be annoyed if this doesn't go through. I will be annoyed if other ideas aren't shared because they are nitpicked into oblivion. We should be trying to innovate at all times, and that means a place that people can feel free to discuss l. Some people have already decided to not bother discussing things.
how can you say dont say opinions as fact then post this.

- a better and fairer equalization measure than the current cap

that is a very opinionated comment, I woudl say it provides as worse and less equal measure then the current cap




I have suggested that for no cap and gave very valid reasons that have been pretty much shot down in the past. Given that i always said those that were most hurt where the dillos of this world.

I have suggested suggestions for teams how to stop the top teams (including Dublin) and that is to stop trading youth for older players and the solution is fixed as a matter of time. The true way of equalizing the comp with time as opposed to a rudimentary forcing square blocks into circle holes. This has been largely ignored. I posted up Moscow and Mexico and not one post about it.

Issues with trade voting and the clear bias that is involved and suggestions of a board or a dictatorship, largely ignored.

I highlighted exactly how a cap system would work and ideas and suggestions how to deal with player changes of values, but a new comp.

I totally understand what your trying to do and i am discussing it, however if I would like to see if any teams are strongly in favour of this and clearly there are teams that will be strongly against it.

I also dont understand how some aspects need to be more realistic and other not so. Voting on other teams trading in the AFL would be a farce. Free agency involves lots of other factors, people can control loyalty, go home factors and one of the biggest is top teams largely benefit from free agency the most. my question is has free agency created equality in the AFL or a greater diversity? my opinion is greater diversity.

Also how unequal is the comp actually?

my apparently invincible team has lost to Pacific, New York and PNL





Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on July 28, 2016, 01:24:52 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 28, 2016, 11:22:14 AM
Quote from: iZander on July 28, 2016, 11:18:48 AM
Quote from: Holz on July 28, 2016, 10:15:47 AM
Just saw Dustin Martin's heat map, possible D/M?

:P

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-07-26/the-stats-files-is-dustin-martin-doing-enough-damage
Heat maps have nothing to do with positions haha

If this is true i have been misinformed. This is what i read.

There are a range of factors that go into making the decision to upgrade a player. The major ones being;

Where players get their possessions. This can be highlighted by heat maps (which the regular Joe punter can find via the ‘coach’ section of the AFL Live app if you have purchased the season pass) which show hot spots for disposals and also the percentages in forward and defensive halves. Darker areas on heatmaps show more traffic for possessions.

Which zones they get their touches. Like the above dot point, these are broken down into forward 50, defensive 50, midfield zone, forward half, defensive half, attacking midfield and defensive midfield adding more than what the heat maps show.

Where players line up. Where players are situated for bounces and stoppages have a factor on DPP additions. The biggest one for this that have been found this year is that a lot of wingers are getting a lot of ball in the back half, despite not playing as a defender. More on that later.

It is a mix of the above and looking into other stats that can help finalise decisions such as centre bounce attendances, game play for different teams, among others.
Holz...
http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,105230.0.html
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 28, 2016, 01:30:28 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 28, 2016, 01:24:52 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 28, 2016, 11:22:14 AM
Quote from: iZander on July 28, 2016, 11:18:48 AM
Quote from: Holz on July 28, 2016, 10:15:47 AM
Just saw Dustin Martin's heat map, possible D/M?

:P

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-07-26/the-stats-files-is-dustin-martin-doing-enough-damage
Heat maps have nothing to do with positions haha

If this is true i have been misinformed. This is what i read.

There are a range of factors that go into making the decision to upgrade a player. The major ones being;

Where players get their possessions. This can be highlighted by heat maps (which the regular Joe punter can find via the ‘coach’ section of the AFL Live app if you have purchased the season pass) which show hot spots for disposals and also the percentages in forward and defensive halves. Darker areas on heatmaps show more traffic for possessions.

Which zones they get their touches. Like the above dot point, these are broken down into forward 50, defensive 50, midfield zone, forward half, defensive half, attacking midfield and defensive midfield adding more than what the heat maps show.

Where players line up. Where players are situated for bounces and stoppages have a factor on DPP additions. The biggest one for this that have been found this year is that a lot of wingers are getting a lot of ball in the back half, despite not playing as a defender. More on that later.

It is a mix of the above and looking into other stats that can help finalise decisions such as centre bounce attendances, game play for different teams, among others.
Holz...
http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,105230.0.html

fair enough.

this was for AF on DT Talk so maybe they are different. If it is different then i conceded this is the one thing AF does better then SC.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on July 28, 2016, 01:31:27 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 28, 2016, 01:30:28 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 28, 2016, 01:24:52 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 28, 2016, 11:22:14 AM
Quote from: iZander on July 28, 2016, 11:18:48 AM
Quote from: Holz on July 28, 2016, 10:15:47 AM
Just saw Dustin Martin's heat map, possible D/M?

:P

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-07-26/the-stats-files-is-dustin-martin-doing-enough-damage
Heat maps have nothing to do with positions haha

If this is true i have been misinformed. This is what i read.

There are a range of factors that go into making the decision to upgrade a player. The major ones being;

Where players get their possessions. This can be highlighted by heat maps (which the regular Joe punter can find via the ‘coach’ section of the AFL Live app if you have purchased the season pass) which show hot spots for disposals and also the percentages in forward and defensive halves. Darker areas on heatmaps show more traffic for possessions.

Which zones they get their touches. Like the above dot point, these are broken down into forward 50, defensive 50, midfield zone, forward half, defensive half, attacking midfield and defensive midfield adding more than what the heat maps show.

Where players line up. Where players are situated for bounces and stoppages have a factor on DPP additions. The biggest one for this that have been found this year is that a lot of wingers are getting a lot of ball in the back half, despite not playing as a defender. More on that later.

It is a mix of the above and looking into other stats that can help finalise decisions such as centre bounce attendances, game play for different teams, among others.
Holz...
http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,105230.0.html

fair enough.

this was for AF on DT Talk so maybe they are different. If it is different then i conceded this is the one thing AF does better then SC.
Nah i've checked that as well. CD decide both
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 28, 2016, 01:33:26 PM
Holz i realised the opinion thing after i posted it, and edited my post soon after to add imo - this was done before you posted your reply, but a valid point.

Realism can only go so far when you don't have to worry about a player's needs or a club's financial position
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 28, 2016, 01:50:47 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 28, 2016, 12:49:50 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 28, 2016, 12:10:38 PM
Each individual player doesn't have their own price right?

What about positions? We would need to break down the groups, but lets say we have 450-500k

Is a 450-500k defender worth more than a 450-500k mid? I would think so, so how does that get included in the valuations?

The dollar value groupings would need to be tight too Can't just have something like 400-500k, because the high end up players in that group are much better than the low end, but that would value them the same

Each player would have an individual price - based on last 3 years average.

Position prices wouldn't matter, as everyone in that position would be relative to each other

Holz it would be a lot of thought in the off season, just the same in regular


The argument thar it isn't fair to change the rules 5 years in, while undestantable, doesn't really apply. We change rules all the time

You can keep any player you want to keep, but maybe not every player.

I can already imagine the hours and hours I need to spend (waste) on looking through an 800+ player list every time I want to see how much someone is worth, and then there is everything else associated with it like reviewing current cap space, calculating how much we can afford to spend etc etc

I'm not trying to be negative at all. Like I previously said, I just think there is so much more to this than what has been talked about and it would turn into quite the beast of work for everyone

Ultimately, if we go through all of this, the only thing that matters at the end of the day is the end result. Is all of this worth what the result would be? Is all of this going to really change things?

Mexico and Dublin are the top teams because their recruitment and coaching got them there. We then have 10 teams who are all capable on their day so I personally don't have an issue with the current equality in Worlds, especially when  I see how old Mexico's list is and the lack of genuine up and coming star power Dublin has in depth

I feel like this undoes everyone's previous work. I know we can poach them, and they can poach us etc but the work load involved and impact it has on previous years of work seems unjustified atm. I guess you could say I'm interested still, but I'd need much more convincing because there are plenty of flow on effect, management and general questions marks that have not really been considered

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 28, 2016, 02:31:58 PM

All 800 players already have a value attached to them with the current cap, no difference really
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 28, 2016, 02:46:21 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 28, 2016, 02:31:58 PM

All 800 players already have a value attached to them with the current cap, no difference really

Practically, it isn't

Looking at a players SC total points and factoring it in to a trade decision takes 10 seconds. Looking at a players $ value, and then what you need to add on top (which can change through counter offers and other bidders) requires a tad more work

I know we're just discussing the idea, but I think you might need to provide a lot more info in terms of how it will work and look overall, how it impacts each team and all the possible scenarios/objections that can arise and how they would be ruled. You'd basically need to present an entire business plan for something this big lol
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 28, 2016, 03:00:27 PM
TBH my cap that I posted last year was far superior to the current model and it got squashed immediately. Jobe shouldn't be free next season but he shouldn't cost full 2015 average either. Then there's Sandi who'll cost next to nothing. Griffen cheap as hell. Under my cap I'd have to chop players but currently I can add more depth! I'm going to get 40 players who play AFL every week and choke the lowly clubs in protest of the administration not just implementing a better version of something that already exists.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 28, 2016, 03:02:31 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 28, 2016, 03:00:27 PM
TBH my cap that I posted last year was far superior to the current model and it got squashed immediately. Jobe shouldn't be free next season but he shouldn't cost full 2015 average either. Then there's Sandi who'll cost next to nothing. Griffen cheap as hell. Under my cap I'd have to chop players but currently I can add more depth! I'm going to get 40 players who play AFL every week and choke the lowly clubs in protest of the administration not just implementing a better version of something that already exists.

For the record if there is a cap i think yours was the best but with slightly different numbers.

Yarran and Roughy should not count as zero.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 28, 2016, 03:23:43 PM
The current state of the comp isn't bad. NDT could make finals this year so that proves that even the showertest list in the world could contend within 3 seasons with managers who are good at the game. Yes Cairo are shower but if they follow NDT and do good work instead of pinning their hopes on injury prone players all the time they'll bounce back in no time.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 28, 2016, 03:31:51 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 28, 2016, 03:23:43 PM
The current state of the comp isn't bad. NDT could make finals this year so that proves that even the showertest list in the world could contend within 3 seasons with managers who are good at the game. Yes Cairo are shower but if they follow NDT and do good work instead of pinning their hopes on injury prone players all the time they'll bounce back in no time.

Cairo is fine.

they dont even have a bad list, add Beams, Higgins, Brodie to that squad and they stand a good chance of knocking off some finals teams.

Just as long as they dont draft a Tom Boyd they will bounce back as all teams have.

here is the 2013 ladder. So in 3 years time look at the changes. Basically besides Mexico at the top there hasnt been any dominate team. Beijing, Pacific, NDT all look very promising. PNL Dublin shot up to the top quickly and have both slipped abit. Moscow, Cairo, Capetwon have all fallen

1   Mexico City Suns   2592   2246   16   1   115.41
2   Buenos Aires Armadillos   2532   2223   13   4   113.90
3   Moscow Spetsnaz   2405   2275   13   4   105.71
4   Sao Paulo Pumas   2567   2291   12   5   112.05
5   Cairo Sands   2373   2196   12   5   108.06
6   Cape Town Cobras   2324   2277   11   6   102.06
7   Berlin Brewers   2288   2172   10   7   105.34
8   Toronto Wolves   2384   2302   10   7   103.56
9   Dublin Destroyers   2354   2328   10   7   101.12
10   London Royals   2301   2252   9   8   102.18
11   New York Revolution   2265   2293   8   9   98.78
12   Seoul Magpies   2246   2192   7   10   102.46
13   Paris Nice Lyon Reindeers   2279   2302   6   11   99.00
14   Tokyo Samurai   2259   2301   5   12   98.17
15   New Delhi Tigers   1941   2287   4   13   84.87
16   Pacific Islanders   1967   2333   3   14   84.31
17   Beijing Thunder   1873   2230   2   15   83.99
18   Wellington Warriors   1903   2353   2   15   80.88
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 28, 2016, 03:39:57 PM
AK and I got New York and turned it into a finalist straight away  8)

Nearly every team has potential to play finals next year if the coaches correctly identify their areas to improve, what/how to use their bargaining chips etc

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 28, 2016, 03:45:21 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 28, 2016, 03:39:57 PM
AK and I got New York and turned it into a finalist straight away  8)

Nearly every team has potential to play finals next year if the coaches correctly identify their areas to improve, what/how to use their bargaining chips etc

Dublin won the flag the year after this.

PNL went from 13th to 5th


Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 28, 2016, 03:56:17 PM
Cairo will whoop me next year since I've been using them as an example of a bottom team.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 28, 2016, 04:44:15 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 28, 2016, 03:00:27 PM
TBH my cap that I posted last year was far superior to the current model and it got squashed immediately. Jobe shouldn't be free next season but he shouldn't cost full 2015 average either. Then there's Sandi who'll cost next to nothing. Griffen cheap as hell. Under my cap I'd have to chop players but currently I can add more depth! I'm going to get 40 players who play AFL every week and choke the lowly clubs in protest of the administration not just implementing a better version of something that already exists.

You brought the idea up after we finished voting on it... so we weren't going to implement it in the 2016 season.

Besides, because the last years' stats now come from my spreadsheets, I've been planning to see what that implementation would look like, because I could get behind it.

Don't imply that I didn't implement it last year because "I just didn't want to"  :-\
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 28, 2016, 05:29:03 PM
Not having a go at you Purps, just saying that between you and Ossie sometimes you should rule with an iron fist and just make changes without the need for a vote because you're wonderful admins who only act in the best interests of the comp. It wasn't a new rule, it was a tweak to an existing rule that simply made it more effective.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 28, 2016, 05:47:45 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 28, 2016, 05:29:03 PM
Not having a go at you Purps, just saying that between you and Ossie sometimes you should rule with an iron fist and just make changes without the need for a vote because you're wonderful admins who only act in the best interests of the comp. It wasn't a new rule, it was a tweak to an existing rule that simply made it more effective.

Damn straight, do as we say peasants
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 28, 2016, 05:50:21 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 28, 2016, 05:47:45 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 28, 2016, 05:29:03 PM
Not having a go at you Purps, just saying that between you and Ossie sometimes you should rule with an iron fist and just make changes without the need for a vote because you're wonderful admins who only act in the best interests of the comp. It wasn't a new rule, it was a tweak to an existing rule that simply made it more effective.

Damn straight, do as we say peasants

I have been calling out for the admins to have dictator power, if it came into play i would be extremely happy. I wouldnt complain with the decisions at all.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on July 28, 2016, 05:53:10 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 28, 2016, 05:50:21 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 28, 2016, 05:47:45 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 28, 2016, 05:29:03 PM
Not having a go at you Purps, just saying that between you and Ossie sometimes you should rule with an iron fist and just make changes without the need for a vote because you're wonderful admins who only act in the best interests of the comp. It wasn't a new rule, it was a tweak to an existing rule that simply made it more effective.

Damn straight, do as we say peasants

I have been calling out for the admins to have dictator power, if it came into play i would be extremely happy. I wouldnt complain with the decisions at all.

Just quoting this for when it happens.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 28, 2016, 05:56:06 PM
Go on admin(s), bring in a rule (weather!) without a vote and see how it goes!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 28, 2016, 07:58:43 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 28, 2016, 05:47:45 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 28, 2016, 05:29:03 PM
Not having a go at you Purps, just saying that between you and Ossie sometimes you should rule with an iron fist and just make changes without the need for a vote because you're wonderful admins who only act in the best interests of the comp. It wasn't a new rule, it was a tweak to an existing rule that simply made it more effective.

Damn straight, do as weI say peasants

Fixed :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 28, 2016, 08:00:20 PM


Coz you guys really want me to force more re-drafts :P

Or neg trades that I had a problem with but no one else did?

Or introduce Tagging? Weather? Confidence?

Coz I'll flowerin do it you know, I'm flowering crazy
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 28, 2016, 08:07:13 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 28, 2016, 08:00:20 PM


Coz you guys really want me to force more re-drafts :P

Or neg trades that I had a problem with but no one else did?

Or introduce Tagging? Weather? Confidence?

Coz I'll flowerin do it you know, I'm flowering crazy

happy with all but the re drafts. I doubt you would pull that one.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 28, 2016, 08:13:38 PM
If you don't do it now after talking tough you'll look weak!

As I said, the cap thing wasn't actually bringing in a new rule so it wouldn't have had as much of an impact as the new rules would. Most people won't notice any difference when it's brought in this year; )
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on July 28, 2016, 08:14:38 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 28, 2016, 08:00:20 PM
Coz I'll flowerin do it you know, I'm flowering crazy

We know because you go for Melbourne :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 28, 2016, 08:21:46 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on July 28, 2016, 08:14:38 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 28, 2016, 08:00:20 PM
Coz I'll flowerin do it you know, I'm flowering crazy

We know because you go for Melbourne :P

Oh... I assume you saw what I did after we lost to Essendon, St Kilda (the first time) and West Coast  :-X
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 28, 2016, 08:21:57 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on July 28, 2016, 08:14:38 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 28, 2016, 08:00:20 PM
Coz I'll flowerin do it you know, I'm flowering crazy

We know because you go for Melbourne :P

I do feel for purp must be tough. Hey position could be worst, could support essendon

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: iZander on July 28, 2016, 08:31:23 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 28, 2016, 08:21:57 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on July 28, 2016, 08:14:38 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 28, 2016, 08:00:20 PM
Coz I'll flowerin do it you know, I'm flowering crazy

We know because you go for Melbourne :P

I do feel for purp must be tough. Hey position could be worst, could support essendon

8th on the ladder with the oldest team isnt exactly that exciting either, atleast i have number 1 draft pick to look forward too ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 28, 2016, 08:38:18 PM
Quote from: iZander on July 28, 2016, 08:31:23 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 28, 2016, 08:21:57 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on July 28, 2016, 08:14:38 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 28, 2016, 08:00:20 PM
Coz I'll flowerin do it you know, I'm flowering crazy

We know because you go for Melbourne :P

I do feel for purp must be tough. Hey position could be worst, could support essendon

8th on the ladder with the oldest team isnt exactly that exciting either, atleast i have number 1 draft pick to look forward too ;)

I reckon the back to back prelims where fun.

Also 1 game behind second.

Also seen 2 premierships and about to watch boomer break the game record.

Very happy :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on July 28, 2016, 08:46:00 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 28, 2016, 08:38:18 PM
Quote from: iZander on July 28, 2016, 08:31:23 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 28, 2016, 08:21:57 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on July 28, 2016, 08:14:38 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 28, 2016, 08:00:20 PM
Coz I'll flowerin do it you know, I'm flowering crazy

We know because you go for Melbourne :P

I do feel for purp must be tough. Hey position could be worst, could support essendon

8th on the ladder with the oldest team isnt exactly that exciting either, atleast i have number 1 draft pick to look forward too ;)

I reckon the back to back prelims where fun.

Also 1 game behind second.

Also seen 2 premierships and about to watch boomer break the game record.

Very happy :P
Prelim is just the equal 2nd Losers.  ;)

And hey, we almost saw a perfect season. I'd argue that's better than any single premiership North has received via a charity loss from us (99')
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: iZander on July 28, 2016, 09:46:28 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 28, 2016, 08:38:18 PM
Quote from: iZander on July 28, 2016, 08:31:23 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 28, 2016, 08:21:57 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on July 28, 2016, 08:14:38 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 28, 2016, 08:00:20 PM
Coz I'll flowerin do it you know, I'm flowering crazy

We know because you go for Melbourne :P

I do feel for purp must be tough. Hey position could be worst, could support essendon

8th on the ladder with the oldest team isnt exactly that exciting either, atleast i have number 1 draft pick to look forward too ;)

I reckon the back to back prelims where fun.

Also 1 game behind second.

Also seen 2 premierships and about to watch boomer break the game record.

Very happy :P

Yeah but do North have Anthony Mcdonald-Tipungwuti?

The name itself is godly ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 28, 2016, 09:57:33 PM
Quote from: iZander on July 28, 2016, 09:46:28 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 28, 2016, 08:38:18 PM
Quote from: iZander on July 28, 2016, 08:31:23 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 28, 2016, 08:21:57 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on July 28, 2016, 08:14:38 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 28, 2016, 08:00:20 PM
Coz I'll flowerin do it you know, I'm flowering crazy

We know because you go for Melbourne :P

I do feel for purp must be tough. Hey position could be worst, could support essendon

8th on the ladder with the oldest team isnt exactly that exciting either, atleast i have number 1 draft pick to look forward too ;)

I reckon the back to back prelims where fun.

Also 1 game behind second.

Also seen 2 premierships and about to watch boomer break the game record.

Very happy :P

Yeah but do North have Anthony Mcdonald-Tipungwuti?

The name itself is godly ;)

Thats an anagram of goldy
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: iZander on July 28, 2016, 10:04:57 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 28, 2016, 09:57:33 PM
Quote from: iZander on July 28, 2016, 09:46:28 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 28, 2016, 08:38:18 PM
Quote from: iZander on July 28, 2016, 08:31:23 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 28, 2016, 08:21:57 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on July 28, 2016, 08:14:38 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 28, 2016, 08:00:20 PM
Coz I'll flowerin do it you know, I'm flowering crazy

We know because you go for Melbourne :P

I do feel for purp must be tough. Hey position could be worst, could support essendon

8th on the ladder with the oldest team isnt exactly that exciting either, atleast i have number 1 draft pick to look forward too ;)

I reckon the back to back prelims where fun.

Also 1 game behind second.

Also seen 2 premierships and about to watch boomer break the game record.

Very happy :P

Yeah but do North have Anthony Mcdonald-Tipungwuti?

The name itself is godly ;)

Thats an anagram of goldy

hahaha, Similar talent as well :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on July 28, 2016, 10:18:29 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 28, 2016, 03:23:43 PM
The current state of the comp isn't bad. NDT could make finals this year so that proves that even the showertest list in the world could contend within 3 seasons with managers who are good at the game. Yes Cairo are shower but if they follow NDT and do good work instead of pinning their hopes on injury prone players all the time they'll bounce back in no time.
It slightly annoys me that there's a tendency to talk about literal years as though it's not much time in this competition. Mexico have been dominant for four years and Holz's only statement is; "just give it a couple of years!" Like, seriously? I get that it's a dynasty game which by definition requires a lot of time, but I think we should be open to creating a more volatile competition.

Quote from: meow meow on July 28, 2016, 03:00:27 PM
TBH my cap that I posted last year was far superior to the current model and it got squashed immediately.
Refresh me
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 28, 2016, 10:34:56 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on July 28, 2016, 10:18:29 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 28, 2016, 03:23:43 PM
The current state of the comp isn't bad. NDT could make finals this year so that proves that even the showertest list in the world could contend within 3 seasons with managers who are good at the game. Yes Cairo are shower but if they follow NDT and do good work instead of pinning their hopes on injury prone players all the time they'll bounce back in no time.
It slightly annoys me that there's a tendency to talk about literal years as though it's not much time in this competition. Mexico have been dominant for four years and Holz's only statement is; "just give it a couple of years!" Like, seriously? I get that it's a dynasty game which by definition requires a lot of time, but I think we should be open to creating a more volatile competition.

Quote from: meow meow on July 28, 2016, 03:00:27 PM
TBH my cap that I posted last year was far superior to the current model and it got squashed immediately.
Refresh me

A few more years and they shouldn't be in finals. Mexico is the only team who has remained top.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on July 28, 2016, 11:26:58 PM
I think people are becoming concerned that teams such as Mexico or Dublin because they have so many assets can just continually stay at the top.

The championship window seems to be guys in that 27-29 bracket correct?

Lets say you have FIVE of each.
- FIVE 27 year olds
- FIVE 28 year olds
- FIVE 29 year olds

At the end of every season you simply trade your 29yos, rinse, repeat, sweeten the deals with picks. Endless dynasty. 8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on July 28, 2016, 11:28:48 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 28, 2016, 10:34:56 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on July 28, 2016, 10:18:29 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 28, 2016, 03:23:43 PM
The current state of the comp isn't bad. NDT could make finals this year so that proves that even the showertest list in the world could contend within 3 seasons with managers who are good at the game. Yes Cairo are shower but if they follow NDT and do good work instead of pinning their hopes on injury prone players all the time they'll bounce back in no time.
It slightly annoys me that there's a tendency to talk about literal years as though it's not much time in this competition. Mexico have been dominant for four years and Holz's only statement is; "just give it a couple of years!" Like, seriously? I get that it's a dynasty game which by definition requires a lot of time, but I think we should be open to creating a more volatile competition.

Quote from: meow meow on July 28, 2016, 03:00:27 PM
TBH my cap that I posted last year was far superior to the current model and it got squashed immediately.
Refresh me

A few more years and they shouldn't be in finals. Mexico is the only team who has remained top.
"A few more years" you've proved my point! Haha.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 28, 2016, 11:38:51 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on July 28, 2016, 11:26:58 PM
I think people are becoming concerned that teams such as Mexico or Dublin because they have so many assets can just continually stay at the top.

The championship window seems to be guys in that 27-29 bracket correct?

Lets say you have FIVE of each.
- FIVE 27 year olds
- FIVE 28 year olds
- FIVE 29 year olds

At the end of every season you simply trade your 29yos, rinse, repeat, sweeten the deals with picks. Endless dynasty. 8)

Exactly to stop it dont trade younger guns for older better guns
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on July 28, 2016, 11:55:23 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 28, 2016, 11:38:51 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on July 28, 2016, 11:26:58 PM
I think people are becoming concerned that teams such as Mexico or Dublin because they have so many assets can just continually stay at the top.

The championship window seems to be guys in that 27-29 bracket correct?

Lets say you have FIVE of each.
- FIVE 27 year olds
- FIVE 28 year olds
- FIVE 29 year olds

At the end of every season you simply trade your 29yos, rinse, repeat, sweeten the deals with picks. Endless dynasty. 8)

Exactly to stop it dont trade younger guns for older better guns

Not that simple unfortunately. Next year there will be people who have coached 5 seasons and have (very) little to show for it. As enjoyable WXV is, I don't think people want to spend the next 10 years on here building a team if they could simply trade a few players for a chance next year.


Let me lay out Dublin's list as of next season:
19: J.Weitering
24: A.Treloar
25: D.Martin, J.Gunston
26: A.Rance, C.Yarran
27: R.Sloane, L.Jetta
28: J.Selwood, T.Goldstein, J.Riewoldt
29: G.Birchall, M.Murphy
30: L.Franklin, J.Roughead

Lets say you traded with Rio to achieve the "perfect balance"
Birch, Murphy, Buddy, Roughy all out.
For those 4 I'd give
T.Boak(28), M.Robinson(27), D.Zaharakis(27), R.Tarrant(27)

After that Dublin would have five 27yos and four 28yos.

Simple trade right? I'd do that every day of the week! Rio would probably also have to add to that right? Oh lets say a 1st rounder. Now Dublin have TWO 1st rounders. Which they could package with ummm oh Weitering! And get a premium anything.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 29, 2016, 03:26:51 AM
Quote from: My Chumps on July 28, 2016, 10:18:29 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 28, 2016, 03:23:43 PM
The current state of the comp isn't bad. NDT could make finals this year so that proves that even the showertest list in the world could contend within 3 seasons with managers who are good at the game. Yes Cairo are shower but if they follow NDT and do good work instead of pinning their hopes on injury prone players all the time they'll bounce back in no time.
It slightly annoys me that there's a tendency to talk about literal years as though it's not much time in this competition. Mexico have been dominant for four years and Holz's only statement is; "just give it a couple of years!" Like, seriously? I get that it's a dynasty game which by definition requires a lot of time, but I think we should be open to creating a more volatile competition.

The opportunity is there during the trade period. Cape Town for example could probably get some guns if you gave up Parish or Mills or 2MP but the youthful teams choose not to be competitive. Nobody made you go down the youth path, and you could turn that around in one trade period if you really wanted to. So many teams trade away their older players or avoid bringing them in at all costs and those teams are as much to blame for the lopsided competition as anyone.

Quote from: meow meow on July 28, 2016, 03:00:27 PM
TBH my cap that I posted last year was far superior to the current model and it got squashed immediately.
Refresh me
[/quote]

100% of 2016 points or 90% of 2015 points if that's higher. I worked out the figures, what the new cap needs to be raised to, to accommodate the extra points. It eliminates guys like Libba being worth no points under the cap. Watson and Sandi will cost me about 100 points next year. Sandilands alone should cost 1500+ so the current model is almost useless.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 29, 2016, 04:33:46 AM
@Chumps - http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,104485.0.html
Barely worth reading though.

Aaron Black still sucks.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: upthemaidens on July 29, 2016, 08:05:52 AM
Well Guys, if you don't want the same teams on top every year, there's a very easy solution.. 

.. STOP trading with the top teams, especially stop trading premiums to them..
    Coaches have to take some responsibility for their actions. Can't just expect rule changes to even up the comp.

Send Mexico and Dublin to the draft every year with their late picks and dry up their source of instant premiums.   It's really quite simple.



Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 29, 2016, 08:50:38 AM
This

Quote from: meow meow on July 29, 2016, 03:26:51 AM
The opportunity is there during the trade period. Cape Town for example could probably get some guns if you gave up Parish or Mills or 2MP but the youthful teams choose not to be competitive. Nobody made you go down the youth path, and you could turn that around in one trade period if you really wanted to. So many teams trade away their older players or avoid bringing them in at all costs and those teams are as much to blame for the lopsided competition as anyone.

And what maidens said
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 29, 2016, 10:23:59 AM
Quote from: Levi434 on July 28, 2016, 11:55:23 PM
Not that simple unfortunately. Next year there will be people who have coached 5 seasons and have (very) little to show for it. As enjoyable WXV is, I don't think people want to spend the next 10 years on here building a team if they could simply trade a few players for a chance next year.

This is exactly me :-X I'm trading for the premiership each and every year now, which means I'll look towards the older players (whom are comparatively cheaper than those whom average the same but are younger), and only the top teams really have those.

Nuts to waiting.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 29, 2016, 10:34:47 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 29, 2016, 10:23:59 AM
Quote from: Levi434 on July 28, 2016, 11:55:23 PM
Not that simple unfortunately. Next year there will be people who have coached 5 seasons and have (very) little to show for it. As enjoyable WXV is, I don't think people want to spend the next 10 years on here building a team if they could simply trade a few players for a chance next year.

This is exactly me :-X I'm trading for the premiership each and every year now, which means I'll look towards the older players (whom are comparatively cheaper than those whom average the same but are younger), and only the top teams really have those.

Nuts to waiting.

Your team is/was a contender you just got hit by injuries. Give your team Fyfe and Hibberd back and it would do damage. thats the point loads of contenders.

Gawn, Fyfe, Steven, Libba, Crouch, Hibberd, Walters, Viney  thats a better set of youth then any of the top 4 in the comp have by a mile.



Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 29, 2016, 11:42:30 AM

Sorry for the format.....

So.... ignoring poaching for the moment, how's this for a regular salary cap?

How to value each player:

Average of the 17 H&A games from the last 3 years (51 games max), multiplied by 3000 (just a magic number to look good)
Multiplied by a 'Premium factor', i.e. 1 + percentage of times that player has scored over 100
Multiplied by a 'Durability factor', i.e. 1 + games played/48 games (games played in home and away season, I'm missing the last 3 rounds so this will be adjusted)

Players with less than 10 games are discounted. Minimum price is $200,000

Total value of each team (which I'm pretty happy with):
Team   Value   Total Players
Mexico City Suns   $20,321,000   46
Dublin Destroyers   $19,743,000   45
Rio de Janeiro Jaguars   $18,860,000   46
Berlin Brewers   $18,832,000   46
Pacific Islanders   $18,276,000   47
Christchurch Saints   $18,069,000   45
PNL Reindeers   $18,021,000   45
New York Revolution   $17,973,000   45
Buenos Aires Armadillos   $17,831,000   46
Moscow Spetsnaz   $17,768,000   47
Beijing Thunder   $17,708,000   45
New Delhi Tigers   $17,332,000   46
Seoul Magpies   $17,032,000   45
Tokyo Samurai   $16,545,000   46
Cairo Sands   $16,466,000   47
Cape Town Cobras   $16,432,000   46
London Royals   $15,294,000   45
Toronto Wolves   $14,668,000   46

That looks pretty good compared to the actual ladder right?


Not sure if the player numbers are right. Essendon players are probably messing with things here a bit (may have to adjust those in durablity stats also)

We have 15 players earning $1m or more. 5 of them on Dublin, and 0 on Mexico City.

Name   2016 Team   Games   Average   Price   Premium Factor   Durability Factor
S Pendlebury   Buenos Aires Armadillos   48   118.96   $1,339,000   1.88   2.00
P Dangerfield   Seoul Magpies   47   120.72   $1,204,000   1.68   1.98
T Goldstein   Dublin Destroyers   47   116.81   $1,179,000   1.70   1.98
G Ablett   Rio de Janeiro Jaguars   33   126.61   $1,166,000   1.82   1.69
N Fyfe   Berlin Brewers   35   122.11   $1,157,000   1.83   1.73
JP Kennedy   Cape Town Cobras   47   110.53   $1,146,000   1.74   1.98
M Priddis   PNL Reindeers   47   110.94   $1,122,000   1.70   1.98
J Selwood   Dublin Destroyers   46   114.22   $1,110,000   1.65   1.96
C Ward   Beijing Thunder   48   110.19   $1,103,000   1.67   2.00
D Hannebery   London Royals   42   111.95   $1,080,000   1.71   1.88
R Sloane   Dublin Destroyers   42   109.12   $1,022,000   1.67   1.88
D Martin   Dublin Destroyers   48   105.83   $1,020,000   1.60   2.00
D Beams   Cairo Sands   33   113.24   $1,008,000   1.76   1.69
A Treloar   Dublin Destroyers   46   106.52   $1,008,000   1.61   1.96
R Gray   Moscow Spetsnaz   44   107.02   $1,007,000   1.64   1.92


And the most valuable players on each team...

Beijing
Name   2016 Team   Games   Average   Price   Premium Factor   Durability Factor
C Ward   Beijing Thunder   48   110.19   $1,103,000   1.67   2.00
L Neale   Beijing Thunder   47   102.02   $941,000   1.55   1.98
D Zorko   Beijing Thunder   47   100.94   $893,000   1.49   1.98
O Wines   Beijing Thunder   43   98.63   $822,000   1.47   1.90
B Ellis   Beijing Thunder   48   93.65   $808,000   1.44   2.00


Berlin
Name   2016 Team   Games   Average   Price   Premium Factor   Durability Factor
N Fyfe   Berlin Brewers   35   122.11   $1,157,000   1.83   1.73
J Steven   Berlin Brewers   43   101.28   $871,000   1.51   1.90
T Liberatore   Berlin Brewers   31   103.32   $757,000   1.48   1.65
M Gawn   Berlin Brewers   26   104.65   $745,000   1.54   1.54
S Johnson   Berlin Brewers   44   91.89   $721,000   1.36   1.92

Buenos Aires

Name   2016 Team   Games   Average   Price   Premium Factor   Durability Factor
S Pendlebury   Buenos Aires Armadillos   48   118.96   $1,339,000   1.88   2.00
E Curnow   Buenos Aires Armadillos   42   89.90   $651,000   1.29   1.88
A Swallow   Buenos Aires Armadillos   38   89.61   $647,000   1.34   1.79
I Smith   Buenos Aires Armadillos   46   85.83   $635,000   1.26   1.96
Shan Edwards   Buenos Aires Armadillos   41   86.29   $621,000   1.29   1.85


Cairo
Name   2016 Team   Games   Average   Price   Premium Factor   Durability Factor
D Beams   Cairo Sands   33   113.24   $1,008,000   1.76   1.69
S Mumford   Cairo Sands   36   106.58   $902,000   1.61   1.75
P Hanley   Cairo Sands   35   97.80   $724,000   1.43   1.73
T Adams   Cairo Sands   34   85.85   $596,000   1.35   1.71
S Higgins   Cairo Sands   39   87.15   $594,000   1.26   1.81


Cape Town

Name   2016 Team   Games   Average   Price   Premium Factor   Durability Factor
JP Kennedy   Cape Town Cobras   47   110.53   $1,146,000   1.74   1.98
D Prestia   Cape Town Cobras   38   99.66   $789,000   1.47   1.79
M Blicavs   Cape Town Cobras   46   87.20   $669,000   1.30   1.96
B Smith   Cape Town Cobras   45   84.31   $632,000   1.29   1.94
D Tyson   Cape Town Cobras   44   86.25   $609,000   1.23   1.92


Christchurch

Name   2016 Team   Games   Average   Price   Premium Factor   Durability Factor
M Boyd   Christchurch Saints   42   103.36   $900,000   1.55   1.88
L Montagna   Christchurch Saints   41   102.39   $889,000   1.56   1.85
S Mitchell   Christchurch Saints   37   101.89   $835,000   1.54   1.77
J McVeigh   Christchurch Saints   44   98.32   $835,000   1.48   1.92
A Sandilands   Christchurch Saints   35   103.60   $830,000   1.54   1.73


Dublin

Name   2016 Team   Games   Average   Price   Premium Factor   Durability Factor
T Goldstein   Dublin Destroyers   47   116.81   $1,179,000   1.70   1.98
J Selwood   Dublin Destroyers   46   114.22   $1,110,000   1.65   1.96
R Sloane   Dublin Destroyers   42   109.12   $1,022,000   1.67   1.88
D Martin   Dublin Destroyers   48   105.83   $1,020,000   1.60   2.00
A Treloar   Dublin Destroyers   46   106.52   $1,008,000   1.61   1.96


London

Name   2016 Team   Games   Average   Price   Premium Factor   Durability Factor
D Hannebery   London Royals   42   111.95   $1,080,000   1.71   1.88
L Shuey   London Royals   46   97.96   $814,000   1.41   1.96
B Cunnington   London Royals   47   90.79   $722,000   1.34   1.98
D Rampe   London Royals   48   83.79   $596,000   1.19   2.00
TT Lynch   London Royals   36   80.94   $508,000   1.19   1.75


Mexico City

Name   2016 Team   Games   Average   Price   Premium Factor   Durability Factor
H Shaw   Mexico City Suns   44   107.66   $985,000   1.59   1.92
T Cotchin   Mexico City Suns   46   104.33   $946,000   1.54   1.96
T Rockliff   Mexico City Suns   36   107.92   $914,000   1.61   1.75
B Goddard   Mexico City Suns   45   99.20   $898,000   1.56   1.94
K Simpson   Mexico City Suns   46   97.59   $861,000   1.50   1.96


Moscow

Name   2016 Team   Games   Average   Price   Premium Factor   Durability Factor
R Gray   Moscow Spetsnaz   44   107.02   $1,007,000   1.64   1.92
D Heppell   Moscow Spetsnaz   34   106.03   $895,000   1.65   1.71
N Naitanui   Moscow Spetsnaz   44   98.07   $871,000   1.55   1.92
D Armitage   Moscow Spetsnaz   42   98.57   $793,000   1.43   1.88
S Docherty   Moscow Spetsnaz   40   92.25   $698,000   1.38   1.83


New Delhi

Name   2016 Team   Games   Average   Price   Premium Factor   Durability Factor
K Jack   New Delhi Tigers   47   99.19   $916,000   1.55   1.98
S Sidebottom   New Delhi Tigers   37   107.86   $915,000   1.59   1.77
S Coniglio   New Delhi Tigers   42   94.14   $781,000   1.48   1.88
S Martin   New Delhi Tigers   37   99.43   $770,000   1.46   1.77
J Howe   New Delhi Tigers   46   82.98   $657,000   1.35   1.96

New York

Name   2016 Team   Games   Average   Price   Premium Factor   Durability Factor
D Mundy   New York Revolution   44   102.91   $956,000   1.61   1.92
J Lewis   New York Revolution   44   101.18   $900,000   1.55   1.92
M Duncan   New York Revolution   42   95.48   $779,000   1.45   1.88
JJ Kennedy   New York Revolution   46   91.76   $714,000   1.33   1.96
J Gibson   New York Revolution   39   93.05   $687,000   1.36   1.81


Pacific

Name   2016 Team   Games   Average   Price   Premium Factor   Durability Factor
M Barlow   Pacific Islanders   41   99.66   $825,000   1.49   1.85
A Gaff   Pacific Islanders   47   91.40   $762,000   1.40   1.98
T Mitchell   Pacific Islanders   31   100.81   $738,000   1.48   1.65
M Bontempelli   Pacific Islanders   40   94.95   $732,000   1.40   1.83
Jam Kelly   Pacific Islanders   43   86.95   $667,000   1.35   1.90

New York

Name   2016 Team   Games   Average   Price   Premium Factor   Durability Factor
M Priddis   PNL Reindeers   47   110.94   $1,122,000   1.70   1.98
N Jones   PNL Reindeers   48   99.10   $866,000   1.46   2.00
D Shiel   PNL Reindeers   39   99.28   $817,000   1.51   1.81
L Hodge   PNL Reindeers   34   100.79   $744,000   1.44   1.71
C Enright   PNL Reindeers   44   91.39   $716,000   1.36   1.92


Rio de Janeiro

Name   2016 Team   Games   Average   Price   Premium Factor   Durability Factor
G Ablett   Rio de Janeiro Jaguars   33   126.61   $1,166,000   1.82   1.69
S Jacobs   Rio de Janeiro Jaguars   47   104.06   $959,000   1.55   1.98
B Vince   Rio de Janeiro Jaguars   46   96.17   $800,000   1.41   1.96
S Thompson   Rio de Janeiro Jaguars   43   95.93   $787,000   1.44   1.90
T Boak   Rio de Janeiro Jaguars   47   96.45   $779,000   1.36   1.98


Seoul

Name   2016 Team   Games   Average   Price   Premium Factor   Durability Factor
P Dangerfield   Seoul Magpies   47   120.72   $1,204,000   1.68   1.98
TJ Lynch   Seoul Magpies   46   84.89   $684,000   1.37   1.96
D Swallow   Seoul Magpies   23   98.87   $669,000   1.52   1.48
T Greene   Seoul Magpies   41   87.46   $640,000   1.32   1.85
J Newnes   Seoul Magpies   48   82.96   $591,000   1.19   2.00


Tokyo

Name   2016 Team   Games   Average   Price   Premium Factor   Durability Factor
L Parker   Tokyo Samurai   48   104.46   $991,000   1.58   2.00
L Dahlhaus   Tokyo Samurai   45   99.22   $898,000   1.56   1.94
A Miles   Tokyo Samurai   38   96.26   $736,000   1.42   1.79
Jac Redden   Tokyo Samurai   40   86.68   $644,000   1.35   1.83
P Ryder   Tokyo Samurai   29   92.28   $613,000   1.38   1.60

Toronto

Name   2016 Team   Games   Average   Price   Premium Factor   Durability Factor
J Macrae   Toronto Wolves   46   100.20   $859,000   1.46   1.96
J Ziebell   Toronto Wolves   43   89.35   $697,000   1.37   1.90
M Pavlich   Toronto Wolves   45   80.27   $560,000   1.20   1.94
T Walker   Toronto Wolves   40   81.08   $557,000   1.25   1.83
J Pittard   Toronto Wolves   46   80.37   $544,000   1.15   1.96







Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 29, 2016, 11:48:05 AM
Maybe drop the Magic number to 2000. Those prices look a little excessive.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 29, 2016, 11:51:07 AM
Quote from: meow meow on July 29, 2016, 11:48:05 AM
Maybe drop the Magic number to 2000. Those prices look a little excessive.

Yeah, that's just cosmetic at this stage, no issue
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 29, 2016, 11:52:20 AM
Amazing work Ossie and i actually much prefer this cap to the current cap. I understand the cap is here to stay so support it as its what purp/ossie wants so 100% behind it.

The thing that i think should be added is a age component. Selwood is probably my least valuable mid out of Dmart, Sloane, Treloar, Selwood super combo

Fyfe is worth far far more then Ablett.

I really like the numbers but the young break out players like Gawn, Bont undervalued the most so a age factor would help tremendously. a 75 average 19 year old is worth lots a 75 average 32 year old is worth nothing.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 29, 2016, 11:53:16 AM
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Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 29, 2016, 11:53:45 AM
We could copy the AFL'S cap to the exact dollar if we really wanted to. I think realistic pricing should be the goal.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 29, 2016, 11:54:50 AM
Age is an interesting one, unfortunately I don't have those stats easily enough :P I could adjust the durability factor a bit, which basically makes youth undervalued a tad

Quote from: meow meow on July 29, 2016, 11:53:45 AM
We could copy the AFL'S cap to the exact dollar if we really wanted to. I think realistic pricing should be the goal.

Why not. What's the AFL cap?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 29, 2016, 11:59:54 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 29, 2016, 11:54:50 AM
Age is an interesting one, unfortunately I don't have those stats easily enough :P I could adjust the durability factor a bit, which basically makes youth undervalued a tad

Quote from: meow meow on July 29, 2016, 11:53:45 AM
We could copy the AFL'S cap to the exact dollar if we really wanted to. I think realistic pricing should be the goal.

Why not. What's the AFL cap?

I think i could work on getting a age factor into it if its a case of you like it you just dont have the stats for it.

age seems to be one of if not the main reason people trade and value players.

first question i ask people when i trade is what age bracket are you looking for.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on July 29, 2016, 12:05:24 PM
If you want ages come and pay me for them :P

Yes, I google searched every single AFL player and I don't regret a second of those 7 hours 8)



Quote from: Purple 77 on July 28, 2016, 08:00:20 PM
I'm flowering crazy
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 29, 2016, 12:09:00 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on July 29, 2016, 12:05:24 PM
If you want ages come and pay me for them :P

Yes, I google searched every single AFL player and I don't regret a second of those 7 hours 8)



Quote from: Purple 77 on July 28, 2016, 08:00:20 PM
I'm flowering crazy

If Rio magically gets a priority pick now when know why :P

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 29, 2016, 12:13:06 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 29, 2016, 11:54:50 AM
Age is an interesting one, unfortunately I don't have those stats easily enough :P I could adjust the durability factor a bit, which basically makes youth undervalued a tad

Quote from: meow meow on July 29, 2016, 11:53:45 AM
We could copy the AFL'S cap to the exact dollar if we really wanted to. I think realistic pricing should be the goal.

Why not. What's the AFL cap?

$10,600,000 (GWS have more)

It's going up by 500K this year because the AFL is doing away with the veteran list and currently only half of a rookies salary counts (if a team has 4 rookies that is, less discount the more players a team has)

So pretty much 11.1 million next year with half of rookies pay still outside of the cap. 11.3 should take care of it.

There's certain pay rates for draftees too. A first round pick gets paid more than a second round and so on.

There's also match payments of 4500 per game for every player (factored into contracts already). A 500K contact only amounts to 410K if that player misses 20 games for the season. This detail is pretty much irrelevant though.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 29, 2016, 12:19:30 PM
Hawks salary cap is significantly higher than Richmond. Hawks have 5, tigers have 1. That's basically an extra 500k in their cap.

There are 49 players listed as veterans in 2016.

$127,435 per veteran is allowed outside of the cap.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 29, 2016, 12:20:44 PM
Excellent work Os - much appreciated

So at this stage, this proposal is simply to replace the cap, but does not include poaching right? So we just trade as per normal but need to now keep under a salary cap as opposed to points cap?

I think the average over 2-3 years and durability factors are great, but I'm not sure about the premium factor only because guys like Neale, Bont etc etc who might only have 1 year of premium scores will be undervalued because it looks over the past 2-3 years

In regards to the age factor being discussed, the issue there is that every year you will need to readjust every players value. I know you will have to do that with their averages and durability anyway, but I don't think ages should be factored into their value because ages is something we all take into consideration when negotiating and evaluating trades anyway

Instead of age, what about overall points scored factor? It's not the exactly the same as durability too so average, overall points and durability is my 2c to think about :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 29, 2016, 12:26:45 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 29, 2016, 12:20:44 PM
Excellent work Os - much appreciated

So at this stage, this proposal is simply to replace the cap, but does not include poaching right? So we just trade as per normal but need to now keep under a salary cap as opposed to points cap?

I think the average over 2-3 years and durability factors are great, but I'm not sure about the premium factor only because guys like Neale, Bont etc etc who might only have 1 year of premium scores will be undervalued because it looks over the past 2-3 years

In regards to the age factor being discussed, the issue there is that every year you will need to readjust every players value. I know you will have to do that with their averages and durability anyway, but I don't think ages should be factored into their value because ages is something we all take into consideration when negotiating and evaluating trades anyway

Instead of age, what about overall points scored factor? It's not the exactly the same as durability too so average, overall points and durability is my 2c to think about :)

but if its something we take into account then trading shouldnt it take into account in the cap. If we are talking equalisation it should be quality of the list and not just that output for the year. This hurts Dublin but in no way should Mexico have a value higher then me, this is not to come off as bragging or anything but if people had the choice of poaching a team would you rather poach Dublin's or Mexico.

I feel pacific and berlin are a little low on the list i would much prefer their lists then Rio, Meixco.

The age should balance that out. In the extreme if you had a team of 25 year olds who average 150 a week and a team of 32 year olds who average 155 a week. Who really is the stronger team.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 29, 2016, 12:44:11 PM
The concern I have with that though Holz is that if it's being taken into account in the cap, and then it also gets taken into account in trade negotiations (Because it will always) then it's essentially being factored in twice
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 29, 2016, 12:45:55 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 29, 2016, 12:44:11 PM
The concern I have with that though Holz is that if it's being taken into account in the cap, and then it also gets taken into account in trade negotiations (Because it will always) then it's essentially being factored in twice

isnt that the point. The cap should reflect the value of a players worth and in trading that should reflect the players worth. So everything that is factored in a trade should be factored in the cap.

Its like saying scoring ability is factored in trading so it shouldn't be in the cap.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on July 29, 2016, 01:09:19 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 29, 2016, 12:45:55 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 29, 2016, 12:44:11 PM
The concern I have with that though Holz is that if it's being taken into account in the cap, and then it also gets taken into account in trade negotiations (Because it will always) then it's essentially being factored in twice

isnt that the point. The cap should reflect the value of a players worth and in trading that should reflect the players worth. So everything that is factored in a trade should be factored in the cap.

Its like saying scoring ability is factored in trading so it shouldn't be in the cap.
Yep. If Boyd and Docherty both had the same 3 year average, you wouldn't want to be paying the same amount from your salary cap for them.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: upthemaidens on July 29, 2016, 01:27:47 PM
I've probably missed something, but why can't we just use the end of year SuperCoach prices as a bases for our salary cap?
     It's more reflective of SC fantasy relevance then the actual AFL salary.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on July 29, 2016, 01:34:02 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on July 29, 2016, 01:27:47 PM
I've probably missed something, but why can't we just use the end of year SuperCoach prices as a bases for our salary cap?
     It's more reflective of SC fantasy relevance then the actual AFL salary.
A very good idea!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 29, 2016, 01:36:15 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on July 29, 2016, 01:27:47 PM
I've probably missed something, but why can't we just use the end of year SuperCoach prices as a bases for our salary cap?
     It's more reflective of SC fantasy relevance then the actual AFL salary.

Because its a rolling average formula.

So the last few rounds matter greatly for example.

Bont 107 average priced at 590k
Pendles 118 average priced at 580k
hanners 110 average priced at 490k

also the multipier drops so if someone averaged 100 leading into the season and scored 100 every week their price would drop throught the season.

so Beams 612k 3rd most expensive in the comp.

Sandi 587K, apparently better then Pendles.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on July 29, 2016, 01:36:39 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on July 29, 2016, 01:34:02 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on July 29, 2016, 01:27:47 PM
I've probably missed something, but why can't we just use the end of year SuperCoach prices as a bases for our salary cap?
     It's more reflective of SC fantasy relevance then the actual AFL salary.
A very good idea!
End of year or start of year?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: upthemaidens on July 29, 2016, 01:50:51 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 29, 2016, 01:36:15 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on July 29, 2016, 01:27:47 PM
I've probably missed something, but why can't we just use the end of year SuperCoach prices as a bases for our salary cap?
     It's more reflective of SC fantasy relevance then the actual AFL salary.

Because its a rolling average formula.

So the last few rounds matter greatly for example.

Bont 107 average priced at 590k
Pendles 118 average priced at 580k
hanners 110 average priced at 490k

also the multipier drops so if someone averaged 100 leading into the season and scored 100 every week their price would drop throught the season.

so Beams 612k 3rd most expensive in the comp.

Sandi 587K, apparently better then Pendles.
So what about the prices at the start of the season instead?  Would they work better?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 29, 2016, 01:58:27 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 29, 2016, 01:36:39 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on July 29, 2016, 01:34:02 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on July 29, 2016, 01:27:47 PM
I've probably missed something, but why can't we just use the end of year SuperCoach prices as a bases for our salary cap?
     It's more reflective of SC fantasy relevance then the actual AFL salary.
A very good idea!
End of year or start of year?

The end/start of year prices go weird for players that have missed a large part of the season or only played a few games. There's always a few players that way under priced because of injury, and always a few players that are over priced because of a one-off great season

3 years seemed a decent run, what I could do is weight it so that the most recent year is worth 2 years....

That changes things a bit...... These would be the biggest winners:

NamePriceAlternate priceDiff
P Dangerfield$1,204,000$1,241,000$37,000
L Hunter$514,000$551,000$37,000
S Docherty$698,000$734,000$36,000
Z Merrett$611,000$647,000$36,000
S Ross$429,000$465,000$36,000
M Gawn$745,000$778,000$33,000
A Hall$463,000$495,000$32,000
S Kerridge$359,000$391,000$32,000
D Wells$550,000$580,000$30,000
Z Williams$400,000$429,000$29,000
J Lyons$322,000$350,000$28,000
L Neale$941,000$968,000$27,000
J Jenkins$536,000$562,000$26,000
M Crouch$405,000$431,000$26,000


And these the biggest losers...

NamePriceAlternate priceDiff
Jac Redden$644,000$606,000-$38,000
M Murphy$879,000$844,000-$35,000
S Martin$770,000$739,000-$31,000
G Ablett$1,166,000$1,138,000-$28,000
N Dal Santo$798,000$771,000-$27,000
D Mundy$956,000$931,000-$25,000
S Mumford$902,000$877,000-$25,000
B McGlynn$542,000$517,000-$25,000
S Jacobs$959,000$935,000-$24,000
L Shiels$549,000$525,000-$24,000

Thanks Levi for showing me how to format....
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 29, 2016, 02:16:01 PM

And going back to Holz comments, and using the original price I came up with, where youth can be disadvantaged because of going back 3 years...

I've added a 20% boost to all players price if they have improved upon (or stayed the same) average for the last 3 years...

I'm just playing around atm...

looking at the midpriced players, has given them a bit of a boost...

NamePriceAlternate priceDiff
S Docherty$698,000$838,000$140,000
J Ziebell$697,000$837,000$140,000
J Riewoldt$696,000$835,000$139,000
A Rance$694,000$833,000$139,000
J Gibson$687,000$825,000$138,000
TJ Lynch$684,000$821,000$137,000
S Grigg$656,000$788,000$132,000
R Murphy$646,000$775,000$129,000
T Scully$641,000$769,000$128,000
P Cripps$626,000$752,000$126,000
Z Merrett$611,000$733,000$122,000
M Broadbent$609,000$731,000$122,000
T Adams$596,000$716,000$120,000
J Viney$600,000$719,000$119,000
D Rampe$596,000$715,000$119,000
M Robinson$593,000$711,000$118,000
E Betts$588,000$706,000$118,000
R Laird$584,000$701,000$117,000
K Tippett$569,000$683,000$114,000
S Savage$557,000$668,000$111,000
T Walker$557,000$668,000$111,000
J Hogan$548,000$658,000$110,000
J Pittard$544,000$653,000$109,000
T Nicholls$522,000$626,000$104,000
J McGovern$520,000$624,000$104,000
L Hunter$514,000$617,000$103,000
M Walters$514,000$617,000$103,000
R Bastinac$510,000$613,000$103,000
TT Lynch$508,000$610,000$102,000
J Blair$502,000$602,000$100,000
A Fasolo$494,000$593,000$99,000
S Lycett$490,000$588,000$98,000
J Johannisen$486,000$583,000$97,000
Ja Stringer$484,000$581,000$97,000
K Stevens$478,000$574,000$96,000
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on July 29, 2016, 02:23:09 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 29, 2016, 01:58:27 PM
Thanks Levi for showing me how to format....

;D

Looks so nice now!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 29, 2016, 02:23:46 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 29, 2016, 02:16:01 PM

And going back to Holz comments, and using the original price I came up with, where youth can be disadvantaged because of going back 3 years...

I've added a 20% boost to all players price if they have improved upon (or stayed the same) average for the last 3 years...

I'm just playing around atm...

looking at the midpriced players, has given them a bit of a boost...

NamePriceAlternate priceDiff
S Docherty$698,000$838,000$140,000
J Ziebell$697,000$837,000$140,000
J Riewoldt$696,000$835,000$139,000
A Rance$694,000$833,000$139,000
J Gibson$687,000$825,000$138,000
TJ Lynch$684,000$821,000$137,000
S Grigg$656,000$788,000$132,000
R Murphy$646,000$775,000$129,000
T Scully$641,000$769,000$128,000
P Cripps$626,000$752,000$126,000
Z Merrett$611,000$733,000$122,000
M Broadbent$609,000$731,000$122,000
T Adams$596,000$716,000$120,000
J Viney$600,000$719,000$119,000
D Rampe$596,000$715,000$119,000
M Robinson$593,000$711,000$118,000
E Betts$588,000$706,000$118,000
R Laird$584,000$701,000$117,000
K Tippett$569,000$683,000$114,000
S Savage$557,000$668,000$111,000
T Walker$557,000$668,000$111,000
J Hogan$548,000$658,000$110,000
J Pittard$544,000$653,000$109,000
T Nicholls$522,000$626,000$104,000
J McGovern$520,000$624,000$104,000
L Hunter$514,000$617,000$103,000
M Walters$514,000$617,000$103,000
R Bastinac$510,000$613,000$103,000
TT Lynch$508,000$610,000$102,000
J Blair$502,000$602,000$100,000
A Fasolo$494,000$593,000$99,000
S Lycett$490,000$588,000$98,000
J Johannisen$486,000$583,000$97,000
Ja Stringer$484,000$581,000$97,000
K Stevens$478,000$574,000$96,000

hmm not sure on that one

Oz if you could get the ages for each player would that be your ideal scenario?

J Riewoldt   $696,000   $835,000   $139,000
J Gibson   $687,000   $825,000   $138,000
S Grigg   $656,000   $788,000   $132,000
M Robinson   $593,000   $711,000   $118,000
E Betts   $588,000   $706,000   $118,000


not exactly youth.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 29, 2016, 02:27:43 PM
I'm not hugely sold on Age as a factor to be honest. I want people to have some incentive to go young, not old. Youth have a bigger ceiling for sure, but they also have big floor.

For every Bontempelli (I priced him at $732k), you have a Toumpas (priced at $287k)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 29, 2016, 02:29:18 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 29, 2016, 02:16:01 PM
I've added a 20% boost to all players price if they have improved upon (or stayed the same) average for the last 3 years...

Probably a bit too much ambiguity with that. Defining if and how a player has improved is purely speculation and one persons opinion. Reckon we need to use cold hard facts/stats

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 29, 2016, 02:31:57 PM

I have O'Meara and Viney both priced at $600k... which seems fair, given Viney averages less but O'Meara hasn't played in 2 years. Who has the bigger upside? I certainly can't tell.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 29, 2016, 02:33:38 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 29, 2016, 02:27:43 PM
I'm not hugely sold on Age as a factor to be honest. I want people to have some incentive to go young, not old. Youth have a bigger ceiling for sure, but they also have big floor.

For every Bontempelli (I priced him at $732k), you have a Toumpas (priced at $287k)

true im definately not saying the 18 year olds needs to be pricey.

its more the 22-26 year olds guys. then expenonentially a greater discount as they get older. So a 26 year old full price. 27

28 maybe 97%
29 maybe 95%
30 92%
31 88%
32 84%
33 80%
34 75%

etc..
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 29, 2016, 02:45:01 PM
So what's the actual point of changing from cap to salary?

I don't really buy into the whole equality thing because there isn't a comp in the world that has everyone on a level playing field and that's simply because there isn't enough top players to go around all teams

We've seen teams go up and down, and that's done through the coaches vision and ability

Like meow said earlier, it's the coaches direction which puts them in the position they are in - not the cap
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on July 29, 2016, 03:03:51 PM
Bloody love the amount of thought, contribution and effort going into all this!

Quote from: ossie85 on July 29, 2016, 02:27:43 PM
For every Bontempelli (I priced him at $732k), you have a Toumpas (priced at $287k)
I got sad reading this then remembered I gave up Colin Sylvia for him :-X
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 29, 2016, 03:45:59 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on July 29, 2016, 03:03:51 PM
Bloody love the amount of thought, contribution and effort going into all this!

Quote from: ossie85 on July 29, 2016, 02:27:43 PM
For every Bontempelli (I priced him at $732k), you have a Toumpas (priced at $287k)
I got sad reading this then remembered I gave up Colin Sylvia for him :-X

Round 1
1. Seoul - Thomas Boyd
2. Beijing - James Aish
3. Pacific - Matt Scharenberg
4. New York - Kade Kolodjashnij
5. New York - Luke McDonald
6. PNL - Jack Billings
7. Seoul - Josh Kelly
8. Pacific - Marcus Bontempelli


Bont is worth pick 3 and 8.


some big losers in that group unfrotunately

19. Wellington - Patrick Cripps
27. PNL - Zach Merrett
65. Toronto - Ben Brown
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 29, 2016, 03:58:07 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 29, 2016, 02:45:01 PM
So what's the actual point of changing from cap to salary?

I don't really buy into the whole equality thing because there isn't a comp in the world that has everyone on a level playing field and that's simply because there isn't enough top players to go around all teams

We've seen teams go up and down, and that's done through the coaches vision and ability

Like meow said earlier, it's the coaches direction which puts them in the position they are in - not the cap

And that's a fair point, it may not be worth changing. I got excited when the numbers I pulled out actually reflected the ladder a bit, something the points cap has struggled with at times.


Adding current values I have (which in the 3 rounds I don't have, will likely go up for most)

Round 1
1. Seoul - Thomas Boyd $305k
2. Beijing - James Aish $358k
3. Pacific - Matt Scharenberg $208k
4. New York - Kade Kolodjashnij $497k
5. New York - Luke McDonald $363k
6. PNL - Jack Billings $429k
7. Seoul - Josh Kelly $462k
8. Pacific - Marcus Bontempelli $732k

Bont is worth pick 3 and 8.


some big losers in that group unfrotunately

19. Wellington - Patrick Cripps $626k
27. PNL - Zach Merrett $611k
65. Toronto - Ben Brown $403k

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: upthemaidens on July 29, 2016, 04:21:56 PM
Zero chance of us trading Bont for pick #3+#8  haha  :) 
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on July 29, 2016, 04:35:41 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on July 29, 2016, 04:21:56 PM
Zero chance of us trading Bont for pick #3+#8  haha  :)
My question though, using the cash formula.

Would you trade him for 1,2 and 8?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 29, 2016, 04:44:16 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on July 29, 2016, 04:35:41 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on July 29, 2016, 04:21:56 PM
Zero chance of us trading Bont for pick #3+#8  haha  :)
My question though, using the cash formula.

Would you trade him for 1,2 and 8?

You probably wont but its not far fetched to say he is worth it.

geez T.Mitchell Gaff Brodie Bowes Setterfield  would be an amazing combo for the future.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 29, 2016, 04:47:18 PM
Dayum, I go away for 4-5 hours and I come back to pages of discussion! I love it!

This idea has got me a little excited actually. I'm a big fan!

Quote from: ossie85 on July 29, 2016, 11:54:50 AM
Age is an interesting one, unfortunately I don't have those stats easily enough :P I could adjust the durability factor a bit, which basically makes youth undervalued a tad

Quote from: meow meow on July 29, 2016, 11:53:45 AM
We could copy the AFL'S cap to the exact dollar if we really wanted to. I think realistic pricing should be the goal.

Why not. What's the AFL cap?

I have everyones ages... so I especially lol'd when I saw me quoted in this:

Quote from: Levi434 on July 29, 2016, 12:05:24 PM
If you want ages come and pay me for them :P

Yes, I google searched every single AFL player and I don't regret a second of those 7 hours 8)



Quote from: Purple 77 on July 28, 2016, 08:00:20 PM
I'm flowering crazy

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 29, 2016, 04:51:20 PM
btw Levi, I would have done what I did last year and give everyone access to a spreadsheet with all the info they'd want for trades, including ages :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on July 29, 2016, 04:54:00 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 29, 2016, 04:51:20 PM
btw Levi, I would have done what I did last year and give everyone access to a spreadsheet with all the info they'd want for trades, including ages :P

Be funny if I looked everyone up for nothing :-X
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 29, 2016, 04:58:04 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on July 29, 2016, 04:54:00 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 29, 2016, 04:51:20 PM
btw Levi, I would have done what I did last year and give everyone access to a spreadsheet with all the info they'd want for trades, including ages :P

Be funny if I looked everyone up for nothing :-X

im sure you had fun doing it though.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on July 29, 2016, 04:59:40 PM
To go along with the Salary Cap how about we have Team Chemistry and Morale!

PLAYER CARD:
Name: Patrick Cripps
Team: Rio de Janeiro Jaguars
Age: 21
Contract: $752,000 each year for 5 years ($3,760,000 Million)
Morale Level: 90%
Friends: Aaron Hall(Rio), Matthew Wright(Rio), Marc Murphy(Dublin)
Not so friends: Travis Boak(Rio), Ben Jacobs(Rio), Jack Ziebell(Toronto)

Each player in the comp would get one of these "Player Cards". Friends can be randomly generated from you team list and 1 random from other lists.

Basically if your players have a high morale level the more likely they are to stay at your team.

WAYS TO INCREASE MORAL:
- Paying a player what they are worth(via Ossie's method). +20 Morale Level.
- Paying a player more than they are worth. +30 Morale Level.
- Signing a player to a deal. +2 for each year of that deal.
- Player plays in finals. +3.
- Player plays in a Grand Final. +5.
- Team uses a 1st Rounder Draft Pick. +1.

Weekly Events; Once a week on a Wednesday, there could be an option for a coach to either hold a:
- Media Day: Chose 1 player and they get +4 Morale.
- Closed Training: Chose 2 players and they both get +2 Morale.
- Open Training: Chose 4 players and they all get +1 Morale.

I could list a whole bunch more but I'll leave this list for now. Obviously a player can lose Morale as well aka trade a friend, not payed enough.

Then prior to every game, you average out the player morale and you get a Team Morale Number. If this team Morale is over 90% then your team gets a 5% bonus. If it's 100% you get 10% bonus. If it is under 60 then a -5% and if under 40 then -10%.



Using these methods we can say that if a team/coach doesn't keep a player(s) morale level up to the desired rate, then that player will choose to leave and test the free agency market.

Also if a player has very high Morale Level, they should be able to sign at a pay cut and/or be more willing to stay at one team opposed to leaving.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on July 29, 2016, 05:04:50 PM
That's excellent levi
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 29, 2016, 05:10:08 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on July 29, 2016, 12:05:24 PM
If you want ages come and pay me for them :P

Yes, I google searched every single AFL player and I don't regret a second of those 7 hours 8)



Quote from: Purple 77 on July 28, 2016, 08:00:20 PM
I'm flowering crazy

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/tp-adelaide-crows?year=2016&sby=11

It would take you about 7 minutes to do every team.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 29, 2016, 05:30:12 PM
Contracts are the way to go. Sam Mitchell and Bont should cost the same next year since they'll score the same, however Pacific should be able to have the security of signing their youthful asset beyond one year.

Players coming out of contract should be able to be bid on, like AFL free agents today. Bidding teams should have to pay that extra 50% to lure a player away from their current club.

Players should accumulate some sort of loyalty bonus in the form of salary cap concessions at the end of each contract cycle.

Long term contracts should be risky. Let's say Bont averages 105 this year and costs 700K and Pacific give him a 3 year deal at 700K a year. If he averages 130 next year then they have to pay him 865K in year 2 of his contract. However if he averages 90 they still have to pay him the 700k. That will make teams think twice about signing their players for forever, and it would stop a guy like Parish being signed for 10 years for just 200K a season. As his output rises, so would his price.

Pacific would be free to trade Bont at any time, as long as another team picks up his contract but he's unable to be bid on/poached while under contract.

Players aged 28 or older can only sign contracts for as long as they have an AFL contract for. A club offering Sam Mitchell a million dollars a year for the next 10 years wouldn't be able to be matched by Christchurch and it's totally unrealistic. Dublin should still be able to sign Lance for 5 years if that's how long he's got an AFL contract for.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 29, 2016, 05:35:01 PM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/BmmfETghGOPrW/giphy.gif)

Every team, trying to do a trade if the new rules come in to play :P

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 29, 2016, 05:37:22 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 29, 2016, 05:35:01 PM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/BmmfETghGOPrW/giphy.gif)

Every team, trying to do a trade if the new rules come in to play :P

The trading is exactly the same.

The points cap is replaced by a salary cap instead. Not that difficult. Obviously you'll know if you can afford a player or not, the same way as you know if you can afford them under the points cap.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 29, 2016, 05:40:11 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 29, 2016, 05:37:22 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 29, 2016, 05:35:01 PM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/BmmfETghGOPrW/giphy.gif)

Every team, trying to do a trade if the new rules come in to play :P

The trading is exactly the same.

The points cap is replaced by a salary cap instead. Not that difficult. Obviously you'll know if you can afford a player or not, the same way as you know if you can afford them under the points cap.

yes but if poaching and contracts.

anyway i thought the gif was funny.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 29, 2016, 05:44:47 PM
Oh I've got Gibbs, Stringer, Hartlett and 90 of my list signed up for next year, and have got a half a million dollars left. Can I afford to get Dangerfield? No. The end. Wow that was complicated.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 29, 2016, 05:52:09 PM
Much rules. Such creativity. Wow.



I've actually made a spreadsheet with each players' 2015 average and 2016 average on it, so I can easily see all the sliders.

But not sure whether to share, or keep my advantage...  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 29, 2016, 05:53:29 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 29, 2016, 05:35:01 PM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/BmmfETghGOPrW/giphy.gif)

Every team, trying to do a trade if the new rules come in to play :P
Basically me during this whole discussion.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 29, 2016, 05:57:00 PM
Quote from: Nige on July 29, 2016, 05:53:29 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 29, 2016, 05:35:01 PM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/BmmfETghGOPrW/giphy.gif)

Every team, trying to do a trade if the new rules come in to play :P
Basically me during this whole discussion.

thats what i wanted to post. nige you are the king of Gifs.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: upthemaidens on July 29, 2016, 06:08:39 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 29, 2016, 04:44:16 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on July 29, 2016, 04:35:41 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on July 29, 2016, 04:21:56 PM
Zero chance of us trading Bont for pick #3+#8  haha  :)
My question though, using the cash formula.

Would you trade him for 1,2 and 8?

You probably wont but its not far fetched to say he is worth it.

geez T.Mitchell Gaff Brodie Bowes Setterfield  would be an amazing combo for the future.
Oh sure, he has a value.  We paid #2+#4 for Barlow,  based on that.  Bont =?   Lots   :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 29, 2016, 06:19:29 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 29, 2016, 05:57:00 PM
Quote from: Nige on July 29, 2016, 05:53:29 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 29, 2016, 05:35:01 PM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/BmmfETghGOPrW/giphy.gif)

Every team, trying to do a trade if the new rules come in to play :P
Basically me during this whole discussion.

thats what i wanted to post. nige you are the king of Gifs.
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lyfak24ejt1ro91bjo1_500.gif)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 01, 2016, 10:43:48 AM

I think the fixture grouping is working great btw, believe it creates some real tension at the end of the year...

If kept the same, the 6 groups next year will be:

Top 6
Dublin, Rio de Janeiro, Mexico City, PNL, New Delhi OR Buenos Aires, New York OR Pacific

Middle 6
New Delhi OR Buenos Aires, New York OR Pacific, Seoul, Beijing, Christchurch, Berlin

Bottom 6
Cape Town, London, Moscow, Tokyo, Toronto, Cairo


I'm liking the number of teams that have moved groups from last year to this. Particularly if New Delhi and Rio go from bottom 6 to middle 6 - while Moscow go from top to bottom. A lot can change
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 01, 2016, 10:53:19 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 01, 2016, 10:43:48 AM

I think the fixture grouping is working great btw, believe it creates some real tension at the end of the year...

If kept the same, the 6 groups next year will be:

Top 6
Dublin, Rio de Janeiro, Mexico City, PNL, New Delhi OR Buenos Aires, New York OR Pacific

Middle 6
New Delhi OR Buenos Aires, New York OR Pacific, Seoul, Beijing, Christchurch, Berlin

Bottom 6
Cape Town, London, Moscow, Tokyo, Toronto, Cairo


I'm liking the number of teams that have moved groups from last year to this. Particularly if New Delhi and Rio go from bottom 6 to middle 6 - while Moscow go from top to bottom. A lot can change

Its good because it adds tension but its negative because it stacks draws.

If you have a major injury for 3 weeks and those 3 weeks are towards the back end of the year when your playing tough teams that can ruin our season. For fairness the games should be spread out.

a key injury when your playing the bottom teams equals 2-3 wins. a key injury when your playing the top teams equals 0-1.

Plus i have just played PNL and Mexico so it seems repetative.

just my opinion but wondering if others agree.

just another side point, the start of the year is very boring for the top teams with basically wins most weeks. I would like to have some tough games thrown in. The only interesting games are when bottom teams improve alot. If i start my year playing those bottom 6 teams i expect to go 6-0
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 01, 2016, 10:58:10 AM
Quote from: Holz on August 01, 2016, 10:53:19 AM
just another side point, the start of the year is very boring for the top teams with basically wins most weeks. I would like to have some tough games thrown in. The only interesting games are when bottom teams improve alot. If i start my year playing those bottom 6 teams i expect to go 6-0
You lost in round 2 Holz....
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 01, 2016, 11:28:14 AM

I know Levi has suggested this already, but would non-finals teams be interested in playing 'friendlies' over the finals, to test out some new rules?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 01, 2016, 11:47:20 AM
Not after Rory Lobb went down and Rupert was robbed of the final rising star nomination.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 01, 2016, 11:55:56 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 01, 2016, 10:58:10 AM
Quote from: Holz on August 01, 2016, 10:53:19 AM
just another side point, the start of the year is very boring for the top teams with basically wins most weeks. I would like to have some tough games thrown in. The only interesting games are when bottom teams improve alot. If i start my year playing those bottom 6 teams i expect to go 6-0
You lost in round 2 Holz....

correct by a team that improved rapidly and i had my worst game in like 2 years.

29, 42, 21, 27 were my other margins in the first 5 weeks.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 01, 2016, 12:43:51 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 01, 2016, 11:55:56 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 01, 2016, 10:58:10 AM
Quote from: Holz on August 01, 2016, 10:53:19 AM
just another side point, the start of the year is very boring for the top teams with basically wins most weeks. I would like to have some tough games thrown in. The only interesting games are when bottom teams improve alot. If i start my year playing those bottom 6 teams i expect to go 6-0
You lost in round 2 Holz....

correct by a team that improved rapidly and i had my worst game in like 2 years.

29, 42, 21, 27 were my other margins in the first 5 weeks.
And you're scores would have beaten nearly everyone in those rounds
Rd1 highest
Rd3 2nd highest (rio highest)
Rd4 highest
Rd5 2nd highest (NDT highest)

Wouldn't have mattered if you played top teams... you still would have won
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 01, 2016, 01:06:35 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 01, 2016, 12:43:51 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 01, 2016, 11:55:56 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 01, 2016, 10:58:10 AM
Quote from: Holz on August 01, 2016, 10:53:19 AM
just another side point, the start of the year is very boring for the top teams with basically wins most weeks. I would like to have some tough games thrown in. The only interesting games are when bottom teams improve alot. If i start my year playing those bottom 6 teams i expect to go 6-0
You lost in round 2 Holz....

correct by a team that improved rapidly and i had my worst game in like 2 years.

29, 42, 21, 27 were my other margins in the first 5 weeks.
And you're scores would have beaten nearly everyone in those rounds
Rd1 highest
Rd3 2nd highest (rio highest)
Rd4 highest
Rd5 2nd highest (NDT highest)

Wouldn't have mattered if you played top teams... you still would have won

correct but those 5 games i went in knowing i was 95% going to win.

Beijing was a fun game as i reckon i had a 75-80% chance of winning and ended up losing.

its just very unnatural to have the season split this way. As i said its unfair if you get hit in a particular period. If your a 150 team and 1-2 injuries bring you down to 140.

at the start of the season it could mean the difference in 5-1 and 6-0

at the end of the year it could be 0-6 and 6-0.

I would prefer looking forward to a rio, pnl, mexico every month or soo instead of bam its all in one go and then it kinda chepaens the finals abit as I just played Mexico. I like the wait to avenage a defeat thats half the fun.

been wanting to take out PNL bad to avenege a loss but it was only a month ago. If it had of been earlier the tension would have been even greater. 

its also not very realistic as the AFL doesnt do it for a reason. Having a round 23 or in our case a round 19 grudge match system is still a good idea though, So predict 1-18.

then go 1v2,  3v4, 5v6, 7v8, 9v10, 11v12, 13v14, 15v16, 17v18.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 01, 2016, 01:42:55 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 01, 2016, 11:28:14 AM

I know Levi has suggested this already, but would non-finals teams be interested in playing 'friendlies' over the finals, to test out some new rules?

I'll put my hand up!

Not exactly prepared to host in my spreadsheets though... but we'll see what happens
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on August 01, 2016, 02:37:03 PM
I have to name my seniors team for the reserves so I'll be friendly.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 01, 2016, 03:31:14 PM
Some early finals carnage.... Waite sent in for a minor op
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 01, 2016, 04:19:49 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 01, 2016, 03:31:14 PM
Some early finals carnage.... Waite sent in for a minor op

Was on our bench last round anyway so all good  :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 01, 2016, 04:23:31 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 01, 2016, 04:19:49 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 01, 2016, 03:31:14 PM
Some early finals carnage.... Waite sent in for a minor op

Was on our bench last round anyway so all good  :)
Jeez he's had a decent fall after that start to the season
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 01, 2016, 04:24:02 PM
Out of all of the teams that were fighting for the 5-8 spots, Pacific was the one I didn't want to face

Pacific $1.65
New York $2.00
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 01, 2016, 04:25:14 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 01, 2016, 04:23:31 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 01, 2016, 04:19:49 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 01, 2016, 03:31:14 PM
Some early finals carnage.... Waite sent in for a minor op

Was on our bench last round anyway so all good  :)
Jeez he's had a decent fall after that start to the season

Yeah, once Norf started facing decent teams he started to score what we expected. The first 7-8 weeks were just a huge bonus

I figure no one would want him in the upcoming trade period now too, so I guess he can just see out his career at New York. Handy bench cover I guess
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: upthemaidens on August 01, 2016, 04:41:48 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 01, 2016, 04:24:02 PM
Out of all of the teams that were fighting for the 5-8 spots, Pacific was the one I didn't want to face

Pacific $1.65
New York $2.00
Bont won't score 79pts two weeks in a row, also we should be gaining a 95avg James Kelly to the starting line-up.
  Even as the away team, I'd load up on Pacific at $1.65    ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 01, 2016, 04:42:57 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 01, 2016, 04:41:48 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 01, 2016, 04:24:02 PM
Out of all of the teams that were fighting for the 5-8 spots, Pacific was the one I didn't want to face

Pacific $1.65
New York $2.00
Bont won't score 79pts two weeks in a row, also we should be gaining a 95avg James Kelly to the starting line-up.
  Even as the away team, I'd load up on Pacific at $1.65    ;)
Or on the line at -7.5 (75)?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: upthemaidens on August 01, 2016, 05:10:24 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 01, 2016, 04:42:57 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 01, 2016, 04:41:48 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 01, 2016, 04:24:02 PM
Out of all of the teams that were fighting for the 5-8 spots, Pacific was the one I didn't want to face

Pacific $1.65
New York $2.00
Bont won't score 79pts two weeks in a row, also we should be gaining a 95avg James Kelly to the starting line-up.
  Even as the away team, I'd load up on Pacific at $1.65    ;)
Or on the line at -7.5 (75)?
Well we outscored NY by 17pts this week and in rd15 we beat them by 10pts(as the Home team).
HGA is worth about 5pts.    So a line of -7.5 is pretty much on the money.
....Just hope Thursday night team announcements are kind to us.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 01, 2016, 05:43:38 PM
Hoping Levi Greenwood goes to Bont and keeps him under 100 - that'd be a win!

Don't write us off just yet - we've had a lot of players performing well under their averages of late, but all it takes it one week for everything to click.

We scored 178 earlier in the year, so the ceiling is there!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 01, 2016, 05:52:42 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 01, 2016, 05:43:38 PM
Hoping Levi Greenwood goes to Bont and keeps him under 100 - that'd be a win!

Don't write us off just yet - we've had a lot of players performing well under their averages of late, but all it takes it one week for everything to click.

We scored 178 earlier in the year, so the ceiling is there!
... Greenwood isn't at North anymore RD ;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 01, 2016, 05:55:18 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 01, 2016, 05:52:42 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 01, 2016, 05:43:38 PM
Hoping Levi Greenwood goes to Bont and keeps him under 100 - that'd be a win!

Don't write us off just yet - we've had a lot of players performing well under their averages of late, but all it takes it one week for everything to click.

We scored 178 earlier in the year, so the ceiling is there!
... Greenwood isn't at North anymore RD ;D

LOL, I went to afl.com and skipped to the next round seeing WBD vs Coll, but afl.com have already moved on from last round and now have this weeks teams playing so what's why I thought WBD vs Coll this round

Alright, well hopefully Norf can shut Bont down!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 01, 2016, 05:57:43 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 01, 2016, 05:55:18 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 01, 2016, 05:52:42 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 01, 2016, 05:43:38 PM
Hoping Levi Greenwood goes to Bont and keeps him under 100 - that'd be a win!

Don't write us off just yet - we've had a lot of players performing well under their averages of late, but all it takes it one week for everything to click.

We scored 178 earlier in the year, so the ceiling is there!
... Greenwood isn't at North anymore RD ;D

LOL, I went to afl.com and skipped to the next round seeing WBD vs Coll, but afl.com have already moved on from last round and now have this weeks teams playing so what's why I thought WBD vs Coll this round

Alright, well hopefully Norf can shut Bont down!

North shut Jack Steven down.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on August 01, 2016, 05:58:27 PM
Ben Jacobs not playing either :'(

So you have to hope Gibson goes to Bont RD.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 01, 2016, 06:00:52 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on August 01, 2016, 05:58:27 PM
Ben Jacobs not playing either :'(

So you have to hope Gibson goes to Bont RD.

dummont
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 02, 2016, 04:28:07 PM
Final Points Cap for those interested!

TeamPoints Cap
Beijing Thunder26703
Berlin Brewers30269
Buenos Aires Armadillos30831
Cairo Sands24938
Cape Town Cobras27668
Christchurch Saints29914
Dublin Destroyers27676
London Royals27496
Mexico City Suns31081
Moscow Spetnaz23083
New Delhi Tigers30989
New York Revolution30710
Pacific Islanders29067
Paris Nice Lyon Reindeers27624
Rio de Janeiro Jaguars32043
Seoul Magpies26420
Tokyo Samurai27505
Toronto Wolves21151
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on August 02, 2016, 04:37:06 PM
What was the min/max's last year?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 02, 2016, 04:42:19 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 02, 2016, 04:37:06 PM
What was the min/max's last year?

22000 and 30000, same as this year, barring a salary cap
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 02, 2016, 04:59:36 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 02, 2016, 04:28:07 PM
Final Points Cap for those interested!

TeamPoints Cap
Beijing Thunder26703
Berlin Brewers30269
Buenos Aires Armadillos30831
Cairo Sands24938
Cape Town Cobras27668
Christchurch Saints29914
Dublin Destroyers27676
London Royals27496
Mexico City Suns31081
Moscow Spetnaz23083
New Delhi Tigers30989
New York Revolution30710
Pacific Islanders29067
Paris Nice Lyon Reindeers27624
Rio de Janeiro Jaguars32043
Seoul Magpies26420
Tokyo Samurai27505
Toronto Wolves21151
3rd :o What is this being over the cap bullshower #scrapthecap

;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 02, 2016, 05:51:29 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 29, 2016, 11:42:30 AM

Sorry for the format.....

So.... ignoring poaching for the moment, how's this for a regular salary cap?

How to value each player:

Average of the 17 H&A games from the last 3 years (51 games max), multiplied by 3000 (just a magic number to look good)
Multiplied by a 'Premium factor', i.e. 1 + percentage of times that player has scored over 100
Multiplied by a 'Durability factor', i.e. 1 + games played/48 games (games played in home and away season, I'm missing the last 3 rounds so this will be adjusted)

Players with less than 10 games are discounted. Minimum price is $200,000

Total value of each team (which I'm pretty happy with):
Team   Value   Total Players
Mexico City Suns   $20,321,000   46
Dublin Destroyers   $19,743,000   45
Rio de Janeiro Jaguars   $18,860,000   46
Berlin Brewers   $18,832,000   46
Pacific Islanders   $18,276,000   47
Christchurch Saints   $18,069,000   45
PNL Reindeers   $18,021,000   45
New York Revolution   $17,973,000   45
Buenos Aires Armadillos   $17,831,000   46
Moscow Spetsnaz   $17,768,000   47
Beijing Thunder   $17,708,000   45
New Delhi Tigers   $17,332,000   46
Seoul Magpies   $17,032,000   45
Tokyo Samurai   $16,545,000   46
Cairo Sands   $16,466,000   47
Cape Town Cobras   $16,432,000   46
London Royals   $15,294,000   45
Toronto Wolves   $14,668,000   46

That looks pretty good compared to the actual ladder right?


Quote from: Purple 77 on August 02, 2016, 04:28:07 PM
Final Points Cap for those interested!

TeamPoints Cap
Beijing Thunder26703
Berlin Brewers30269
Buenos Aires Armadillos30831
Cairo Sands24938
Cape Town Cobras27668
Christchurch Saints29914
Dublin Destroyers27676
London Royals27496
Mexico City Suns31081
Moscow Spetnaz23083
New Delhi Tigers30989
New York Revolution30710
Pacific Islanders29067
Paris Nice Lyon Reindeers27624
Rio de Janeiro Jaguars32043
Seoul Magpies26420
Tokyo Samurai27505
Toronto Wolves21151

Mine closer aligns to reality i think
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on August 02, 2016, 06:05:14 PM
Much more I'd say Oss.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on August 02, 2016, 06:13:49 PM
Had 39 players play AFL and still under the cap  8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: PowerBug on August 02, 2016, 06:16:13 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 02, 2016, 06:13:49 PM
Had 39 players play AFL and still under the cap  8)
Well that just means that they all suck doesn't it ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on August 02, 2016, 06:27:28 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on August 02, 2016, 06:16:13 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 02, 2016, 06:13:49 PM
Had 39 players play AFL and still under the cap  8)
Well that just means that they all suck doesn't it ;)
PB comes outta nowehere with the POW POW, ONE-TWO K.OOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 02, 2016, 06:35:17 PM
Oh, I forgot to take out the top-up players points... ah doesn't matter, you get the idea
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: PowerBug on August 02, 2016, 06:50:40 PM
Quote from: GoLions on August 02, 2016, 06:27:28 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on August 02, 2016, 06:16:13 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 02, 2016, 06:13:49 PM
Had 39 players play AFL and still under the cap  8)
Well that just means that they all suck doesn't it ;)
PB comes outta nowehere with the POW POW, ONE-TWO K.OOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
Yeah since I posted on here with the CL build up I get the notifications so I give it a read :) and this topic is interesting
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 02, 2016, 07:20:36 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on August 02, 2016, 06:16:13 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 02, 2016, 06:13:49 PM
Had 39 players play AFL and still under the cap  8)
Well that just means that they all suck doesn't it ;)

Lol! Thought the exact same thing. Well not they suck, but they're mostly mid priced useless depth :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 02, 2016, 07:24:06 PM
Teia Miles,  Harley Balic, Brayden Fiorini, Nathan Hrovat and Jack Fitzpatrick the only 5 on our list of 40 that didn't play a game :8)

And to think 2 years ago when we inherited this team youd struggle just to field 15!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 02, 2016, 07:37:17 PM
 :'( never gonna get a wxv team
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on August 02, 2016, 07:42:44 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 02, 2016, 07:20:36 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on August 02, 2016, 06:16:13 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 02, 2016, 06:13:49 PM
Had 39 players play AFL and still under the cap  8)
Well that just means that they all suck doesn't it ;)

Lol! Thought the exact same thing. Well not they suck, but they're mostly mid priced useless depth :P

I'd hardly call 11 of my 2nd year players getting AFL experience useless.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on August 02, 2016, 07:50:00 PM
Only 2000 over the cap! I'll take that!

At one point it was looking like we'd be over 4000-odd :-X
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: MajorLazer on August 02, 2016, 08:06:28 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 02, 2016, 07:42:44 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 02, 2016, 07:20:36 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on August 02, 2016, 06:16:13 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 02, 2016, 06:13:49 PM
Had 39 players play AFL and still under the cap  8)
Well that just means that they all suck doesn't it ;)

Lol! Thought the exact same thing. Well not they suck, but they're mostly mid priced useless depth :P

I'd hardly call 11 of my 2nd year players getting AFL experience useless.
I'll call it that then
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 06, 2016, 10:04:36 AM
Looking through our current team list and trying to get an idea of which players will have their positions change

Harmes is currently a FWD - does he maintain that? MID only or MID/FWD?
Mundy is MID only but I'm expecting DEF/MID  8)
Gresham should go from MID only to FWD only
Cockatoo I think might go from FWD only to MID/FWD
Rosa is currently MID/DEF but think he will go to MID only
Conca and Sexton are MID/FWD - not sure what happens with these two? Reckon Sexton maintains DPP but Conca is MID only?
Mitch Brown prob goes from DEF/FWD to FWD only

Everyone else I expect to stay the same
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 06, 2016, 10:10:53 AM
Harmes will be a D/M next year IMO, from watching every game religiously
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 06, 2016, 10:12:13 AM
That's very handy actually  :D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 06, 2016, 12:37:04 PM
Yep, Conca likely mid only.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: LF on August 14, 2016, 10:56:09 PM
Vacant Coaching position available

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php?topic=107956.msg1797122#msg1797122
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 16, 2016, 12:31:14 PM
Trent West retired :'(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 16, 2016, 12:35:54 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 16, 2016, 12:31:14 PM
Trent West retired :'(

So did Cooney (Last game this week)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on August 16, 2016, 06:08:23 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 16, 2016, 12:35:54 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 16, 2016, 12:31:14 PM
Trent West retired :'(

So did Cooney (Last game this week)
Been great this year! Especially since we got him for peanuts.

Would've liked him next week tho :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 16, 2016, 06:22:49 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 16, 2016, 06:08:23 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 16, 2016, 12:35:54 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 16, 2016, 12:31:14 PM
Trent West retired :'(

So did Cooney (Last game this week)
Been great this year! Especially since we got him for peanuts.

Would've liked him next week tho :(

when i saw he was retiring this week i was very happy.

dont owrry if dublin makes it ill have 7-8 restings.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 16, 2016, 06:25:10 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 16, 2016, 06:22:49 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 16, 2016, 06:08:23 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 16, 2016, 12:35:54 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 16, 2016, 12:31:14 PM
Trent West retired :'(

So did Cooney (Last game this week)
Been great this year! Especially since we got him for peanuts.

Would've liked him next week tho :(

when i saw he was retiring this week i was very happy.

dont owrry if dublin makes it ill have 7-8 restings.
Mexico won't be playing next week anyway
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 16, 2016, 06:33:53 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 16, 2016, 06:25:10 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 16, 2016, 06:22:49 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 16, 2016, 06:08:23 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 16, 2016, 12:35:54 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 16, 2016, 12:31:14 PM
Trent West retired :'(

So did Cooney (Last game this week)
Been great this year! Especially since we got him for peanuts.

Would've liked him next week tho :(

when i saw he was retiring this week i was very happy.

dont owrry if dublin makes it ill have 7-8 restings.
Mexico won't be playing next week anyway

Shots fired!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Koop on August 17, 2016, 10:55:14 PM
Looking to get involved with Worlds again for anyone in need of an extra set of eyes as an assistant for the off-season.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 21, 2016, 09:01:42 PM
Shameless advertising

We currently have 2 vacant coaching positions in the british XV's.  Information can be found in this thread,

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,108009.0.html
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 22, 2016, 10:42:25 PM
Cloke confirmed back for Pies this weekend........
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 29, 2016, 12:49:46 PM

Hey guys,

I've created this spreadsheet (let me know if link works):

http://jmp.sh/WJ2YtmN

I've also put it up on the player list thread (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,108063.0.html).

What you can now do:
- Go to your tab
- When you get a new player through trading, just add them to the bottom of the list!
- When you get rid of a player, just delete them off the list!

Hint: If you're worried about going over the cap, remember to delete your retired/delisted players!

Hunt: If you're worreid about going UNDER the cap, DON'T delete your retired/delisted players just yet (remember the minimum isn't a hard minimum, just means you can't trade your players (only picks) if you're under that number).
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 29, 2016, 02:34:57 PM
Quite the handy spreadsheet!

Love it when oz has time on his hands  8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on August 29, 2016, 08:13:54 PM
Yep thanks Oss for the nice and easy to use spreadsheet :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 31, 2016, 05:22:53 PM
ok so interesting one here, which team apart from Dublin do you would think win in a real AFL game?

got to say i dont mind Berlin

Macmillin MJ Burgoyne
Hibberd Talia Z.Jones

Gawn: Viney Libba
Fyfe Steven Crouch

SJ Petrie Lecras
Walters Dixon JKH

Bench: Masten, Henderson, J.Smith, Suban
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 31, 2016, 05:26:51 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 31, 2016, 05:22:53 PM
ok so interesting one here, which team apart from Dublin do you would think win in a real AFL game?

got to say i dont mind Berlin

Macmillin MJ Burgoyne
Hibberd Talia Z.Jones

Gawn: Viney Libba
Fyfe Steven Crouch

SJ Petrie Lecras
Walters Dixon JKH

Bench: Masten, Henderson, J.Smith, Suban
Whoever has Zac Dawson. They'd only have to score 1 point to win, because nothing gets past him
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 31, 2016, 06:17:33 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 31, 2016, 05:22:53 PM
ok so interesting one here, which team apart from Dublin do you would think win in a real AFL game?

got to say i dont mind Berlin

Macmillin MJ Burgoyne
Hibberd Talia Z.Jones

Gawn: Viney Libba
Fyfe Steven Crouch

SJ Petrie Lecras
Walters Dixon JKH

Bench: Masten, Henderson, J.Smith, Suban

Haha, the forward line needs work, but thanks! :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on August 31, 2016, 07:03:45 PM
Saints easy. Roughead isn't much of a CHF but there's guns everywhere.

B: Boyd, Lever, Dempster
HB: McVeigh, Reid, Wilson
C: Hartlett, Watson, Montagna
HF: Breust, Roughead, Higgins
F: Dickson, Stringer, C. Smith
R: Sandilands, Gibbs, Mitchell
I: Griffen, Blakely, Trengove, McLean

E: Cox, Garlett, Vandenberg

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on August 31, 2016, 07:14:58 PM
^might be a little slow. Griff off the bench would help but Watto, Smitch, Blakely and Trengove aren't known for their pace. Even Gibbs and HH are average.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 31, 2016, 07:17:51 PM
I reckon New York would go alright

B: Hurn, McDonald, Collins
HB: Mundy, Gibson, Sinclair/SDT
C: Hill, Lewis, Scully
HF: Grigg, Tippett, Heeney
F: Menzel, JJK, Gresham
R: Bellchambers, Tyson, Duncan
I: Waite, Picken, Harmes, Sexton

Can probably start Waite at CHF, Tippett at ruck and Belcho to bench too
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on August 31, 2016, 08:21:08 PM
B: L.Brown, T.Richards, T.Jonas
HB: S.Mayes, H.Taylor, J.Thurlow
C: B.Ellis, C.Ward, B.Hill
HF: D.Zorko, C.Petracca, J.Aish
FF: A.Christensen, J.Jenkins, K.Lambert
Fol: B.Grundy, L.Neale, O.Wines
IC: J.Caddy, J.Hunt, J.Polec, B.Kennedy

No true CHF but Petraccatack don't care.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on August 31, 2016, 08:25:38 PM
Are we talking a fit side?

B: Hombsch, May, Vlastuin
HB: Docherty, Barrass, Scharenberg
C: Armo, Menegola, Bastinac
HF: Bell, Daniher, Monfries
F: Moore, Hogan, Ballatyne
Fol: NN, Gray, Hepp
IC: Sheed, Greenwood, Hooker, Ryan Clarke

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 31, 2016, 08:31:16 PM
Some decent teams.

Still give edge to berlin.

Dublin invicible with my kpp love.

Grundy rance jetta
Birchall weits yarran

Goldy selwood Sloane
Treloar jack nds

Martin franklin roughead
Gunston jroo turner

Omac,  hansen, silvagni, daw
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 31, 2016, 08:39:53 PM
NDS and Rough you can remove  :P

Honestly, in terms of balance, skill and purely from an on field performing aspect (Not SC) I reckon we look the goods here. Pretty damn solid across all lines

Doesn't matter though, because Worlds is all about SC scoring
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on August 31, 2016, 09:01:21 PM
Shaw Gwilt Broadbent
Simpson Laidler Baguley
Stanton Rockliff BJ
Hampson Cotchin Wells
Lids Nroo Bennell
Betts Sicily Boomer

Bartel, S.Gray, Ebert, CEY

Apart from our talls, looks pretty good!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on August 31, 2016, 09:03:07 PM
It'd be sick if all these players actually committed to playing a tourny for us.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on September 02, 2016, 02:30:23 PM
Haha, interesting!

FB: L McDonald - L Plowman - T McKenzie
HB: S Savage - C O'Shea - B Smith
C: L Hunter - JPK - B Acres
HF: N Cockatoo - P Wright - D Kent
FF: G Rohan - T Hawkins - S Crameri
FOL: M Blicavs - D Prestia - T Miller

I: N Graham, C Bird, D Parish, C Mills

No CHB but youthhh, I reckon a fair few AFL teams would trade their list for that 22
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on September 02, 2016, 02:44:51 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 02, 2016, 02:30:23 PM
Haha, interesting!

FB: L McDonald - L Plowman - T McKenzie
HB: S Savage - C O'Shea - B Smith
C: L Hunter - JPK - B Acres
HF: N Cockatoo - P Wright - D Kent
FF: G Rohan - T Hawkins - S Crameri
FOL: M Blicavs - D Prestia - T Miller

I: N Graham, C Bird, D Parish, C Mills

No CHB but youthhh, I reckon a fair few AFL teams would trade their list for that 22

patience :P

yeah its a solid team, Blicavs not sure as a ruck thought. the team would probably struggle to win that many games in AFL but good future.

no bench is alright :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on September 03, 2016, 01:48:43 PM
im on chat for the next 3 hours if anyone wants to talk trades.

http://ffchat.wixsite.com/chat
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jukes on September 03, 2016, 04:47:27 PM
For 2017 can we just scrap SC scoring and instead put all our teams into AFL Live and sim the whole season to get results

Would be 10 times better
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on September 22, 2016, 11:53:21 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 29, 2016, 12:49:46 PM

Hey guys,

I've created this spreadsheet (let me know if link works):

http://jmp.sh/WJ2YtmN

I've also put it up on the player list thread (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,108063.0.html).

What you can now do:
- Go to your tab
- When you get a new player through trading, just add them to the bottom of the list!
- When you get rid of a player, just delete them off the list!

Hint: If you're worried about going over the cap, remember to delete your retired/delisted players!

Hunt: If you're worreid about going UNDER the cap, DON'T delete your retired/delisted players just yet (remember the minimum isn't a hard minimum, just means you can't trade your players (only picks) if you're under that number).
This spreadsheet is that good Os. It basically does everything for you
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 22, 2016, 01:51:35 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 22, 2016, 11:53:21 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 29, 2016, 12:49:46 PM

Hey guys,

I've created this spreadsheet (let me know if link works):

http://jmp.sh/WJ2YtmN

I've also put it up on the player list thread (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,108063.0.html).

What you can now do:
- Go to your tab
- When you get a new player through trading, just add them to the bottom of the list!
- When you get rid of a player, just delete them off the list!

Hint: If you're worried about going over the cap, remember to delete your retired/delisted players!

Hunt: If you're worreid about going UNDER the cap, DON'T delete your retired/delisted players just yet (remember the minimum isn't a hard minimum, just means you can't trade your players (only picks) if you're under that number).
This spreadsheet is that good Os. It basically does everything for you
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on September 22, 2016, 04:01:54 PM
Excuse my ignorance, but are we allowed to start delisting blokes yet?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on September 22, 2016, 04:08:55 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 22, 2016, 04:01:54 PM
Excuse my ignorance, but are we allowed to start delisting blokes yet?

Nothing official until list lodgements I think.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 22, 2016, 04:56:56 PM
You can keep your own record for now, but the list lodgements thread won't come just for a little bit.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on September 22, 2016, 04:59:41 PM
No worries, cheers fellas
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 23, 2016, 11:00:04 AM
Quote from: Nige on September 22, 2016, 01:51:35 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 22, 2016, 11:53:21 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 29, 2016, 12:49:46 PM

Hey guys,

I've created this spreadsheet (let me know if link works):

http://jmp.sh/WJ2YtmN

I've also put it up on the player list thread (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,108063.0.html).

What you can now do:
- Go to your tab
- When you get a new player through trading, just add them to the bottom of the list!
- When you get rid of a player, just delete them off the list!

Hint: If you're worried about going over the cap, remember to delete your retired/delisted players!

Hunt: If you're worreid about going UNDER the cap, DON'T delete your retired/delisted players just yet (remember the minimum isn't a hard minimum, just means you can't trade your players (only picks) if you're under that number).
This spreadsheet is that good Os. It basically does everything for you

Thanks guys, glad it helped
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on September 26, 2016, 07:27:03 PM
WXV Awards Night > AFL Brownlow
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 27, 2016, 07:05:27 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on September 26, 2016, 07:27:03 PM
WXV Awards Night > AFL Brownlow

Who needs Guy Pearce when yoy have guys pissed
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on September 27, 2016, 08:02:54 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 27, 2016, 07:05:27 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on September 26, 2016, 07:27:03 PM
WXV Awards Night > AFL Brownlow

Who needs Guy Pearce when yoy have guys pissed

Hehe
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on September 30, 2016, 03:33:15 PM
Hey gents, bit of an announcement

I'm not sure I can commit enough time to successfully run the Cobras with as much passion and dedication as I would like to. As I'm sure a lot of you would have noticed, I've been struggling to keep up with trade negotiations with the absence of Memph and have fallen behind in the management of it all. Instead of being something that's always been loads of fun, recently Worlds has began to feel like a bit of a chore for me as I try to manage RL stuff.

It really pains me to say it as a founding coach and considering the amount of hours I've put into this, but I think I have to step down as head coach.

I feel like the list is in a really strong position for the future, and I'd be keen to stay involved in a minor position with whomever took over, but right now I cannot commit the necessary time to successfully run the team.

I realise this may seem a little negligent from myself by not giving the new coach the chance to attack a full trade period but I certainly wasn't expecting to feel this way after a couple of weeks. Hopefully they will have enough time to shape the list a little bit in the remaining weeks.

Cheers lads, it's been a blast. I'll be sure to duck my head back in when the Cobras win the flag in 2020 :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on September 30, 2016, 03:36:21 PM
Good on ya MC, sad to see you go! I remember my apprenticeship at the Cobras as an assistant and I'm thankful for that chance!

Hope to see ya round the forums occasionally even if real life is getting more hectic!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on September 30, 2016, 03:49:37 PM
Sorry to see you go MC! You and Memph have done a ripper job with Cape Town mate, the future is certainly looking good there
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 30, 2016, 03:58:38 PM
Goodbye and good luck Chumpy! Hope to see ya around.  8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on September 30, 2016, 04:17:23 PM
Dang it.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on September 30, 2016, 04:20:33 PM
:(

Another pioneer coach down, and one of great quality that took his team to the 2012 WXV Grand Final.

Hope to see you poke your head in every once and a while MC!  :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on September 30, 2016, 04:22:59 PM
After making efforts to suss out where Memph is at (hasn't been online since July)... following the decisions in the other comps he's been involved in, I've come to the conclusion that he will be stepping down from Cape Town.

We'll be taking applications for MC's replacement immediately.

I'll be opening up a thread shortly.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on September 30, 2016, 04:40:47 PM
WXV Vacant Coaching Position (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,108136.0.html)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on September 30, 2016, 04:46:05 PM
how many coaches are left now, since inception
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on September 30, 2016, 04:51:23 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 30, 2016, 04:46:05 PM
how many coaches are left now, since inception

Good question!

MajorLazer, meow meow, Holz, Hellopplz & (basically) DazBurg, Boomz and me from my count.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on September 30, 2016, 04:54:44 PM
Just give the team to GoLions.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 30, 2016, 04:56:33 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 30, 2016, 04:54:44 PM
Just give the team to GoLions.
He's probably interested, but I know he's away for the weekend with his missus and future in-laws so it might have to wait!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on September 30, 2016, 05:16:09 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 30, 2016, 04:56:33 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 30, 2016, 04:54:44 PM
Just give the team to GoLions.
He's probably interested, but I know he's away for the weekend with his missus and future in-laws so it might have to wait!

Future in-laws bloody look out!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 30, 2016, 05:30:35 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 30, 2016, 04:51:23 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 30, 2016, 04:46:05 PM
how many coaches are left now, since inception

Good question!

MajorLazer, meow meow, Holz, Hellopplz & (basically) DazBurg, Boomz and me from my count.

Asterisk for meow :p
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 01, 2016, 10:55:04 AM
Gonna miss you around here MC

Always enjoyed our discussions/negotiations - hope you don't completely vanish

Oh, and can you send Mills my way now before you go? :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on October 02, 2016, 08:40:22 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 01, 2016, 10:55:04 AM
Oh, and can you send Mills my way now before you go? :P
Only if Heeney's coming back the other direction ;)

Cheers for the kind words lads.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on October 03, 2016, 12:51:20 PM

If interested in the WXV Women's Comp, please apply here:

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,108140.0.html
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: BB67th on October 05, 2016, 04:56:27 PM
Hey everyone, after not being successful in the vacant WXV coaching position, I still feel like I'd like to get involved with the competition a bit more.

If anyone is after an assistant coach to help out with running the team, let me know!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on October 07, 2016, 03:38:55 PM
ANNOUNCEMENT

Ele and I would like to welcome BB to the club as an assistant coach :)

His experience in XVs and footy knowledge will be a valuable addition to the Tigers, and we're stoked to have him on board.

Welcome mate!

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on October 07, 2016, 03:44:01 PM
Formidable coaching panel!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on October 07, 2016, 05:02:55 PM
Welcome BB!

I've had to take a pay-cut to allow us to sign BB to a lucrative deal, but I feel that it'll be worth it!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on October 07, 2016, 05:07:05 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 07, 2016, 05:02:55 PM
Welcome BB!

I've had to take a pay-cut to allow us to sign BB to a lucrative deal, but I feel that it'll be worth it!
Wait, you're getting paid??
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on October 07, 2016, 05:12:56 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2016, 05:07:05 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 07, 2016, 05:02:55 PM
Welcome BB!

I've had to take a pay-cut to allow us to sign BB to a lucrative deal, but I feel that it'll be worth it!
Wait, you're getting paid??

Haha nice try, I heard about the Grand Final bonus you had written into your contract during the finals series

#brownpaperbag #underthetable #investigatehimPurps
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: BB67th on October 07, 2016, 05:50:41 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 07, 2016, 05:12:56 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2016, 05:07:05 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 07, 2016, 05:02:55 PM
Welcome BB!

I've had to take a pay-cut to allow us to sign BB to a lucrative deal, but I feel that it'll be worth it!
Wait, you're getting paid??

Haha nice try, I heard about the Grand Final bonus you had written into your contract during the finals series

#brownpaperbag #underthetable #investigatehimPurps
Cheers guys, great to be a part of the WXV once more!

Let's hope I'll make that lucrative deal worthwhile for us all  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on October 08, 2016, 02:18:36 PM
Welcome BB. Hope you're able to control your head coaches :P.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on October 19, 2016, 05:20:41 PM
Corey Enright (PNL) retired

Jimmy Bartel (Mexico) retired

Andrew Mackie (Dublin) active

(http://d22zlbw5ff7yk5.cloudfront.net/images/cm-23138-050624abe3a9e6.jpeg)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on October 19, 2016, 05:24:44 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 19, 2016, 05:20:41 PM
Corey Enright (PNL) retired

Jimmy Bartel (Mexico) retired

Andrew Mackie (Dublin) active

(http://d22zlbw5ff7yk5.cloudfront.net/images/cm-23138-050624abe3a9e6.jpeg)
Ive always thought of you as Monty.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on October 26, 2016, 02:08:43 PM
Damn Mckenzie delisted didn't see that coming :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on October 26, 2016, 02:57:34 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on October 26, 2016, 02:08:43 PM
Damn Mckenzie delisted didn't see that coming :(

yeah its abit of a shock, great news for Dublin and pretty good news for Hibberd (PNL)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on October 26, 2016, 04:47:21 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on October 26, 2016, 02:08:43 PM
Damn Mckenzie delisted didn't see that coming :(
Safe to say I'm glad you declined my offers for him less than a week ago.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on October 26, 2016, 05:10:32 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 26, 2016, 04:47:21 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on October 26, 2016, 02:08:43 PM
Damn Mckenzie delisted didn't see that coming :(
Safe to say I'm glad you declined my offers for him less than a week ago.
True
Though reckon he could get picked up elsewhere in the delisted free agency
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: upthemaidens on October 27, 2016, 10:36:36 PM
Just out of interest.  Does anyone have the averages of using stand alone Captains compared to using Co-Captains ?

I'm guessing a solo Captain is a higher average, but volatile.  CC would be more stable and a "safer" option.  I wonder how big of a difference the average is.

Edit note: I'd expect if you don't have a stand out Captain choice, then using CC would be more beneficial.
  If you have a 20 point gap between M1 and M2, then a solo Capt would be of greater advantage..
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on October 27, 2016, 10:39:45 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on October 27, 2016, 10:36:36 PM
Just out of interest.  Does anyone have the averages of using stand alone Captains compared to using Co-Captains ?

I'm guessing a solo Captain is a higher average, but volatile.  CC would be more stable and a "safer" option.  I wonder how big of a difference the average is.

That would be interesting. But in the too-hard basket for me to find out :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: iZander on October 27, 2016, 10:40:17 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on October 27, 2016, 10:36:36 PM
Just out of interest.  Does anyone have the averages of using stand alone Captains compared to using Co-Captains ?

I'm guessing a solo Captain is a higher average, but volatile.  CC would be more stable and a "safer" option.  I wonder how big of a difference the average is.

Wouldnt really be a fair comparison as generally those that use stand alone captains have a beast captain options example Danger, Pendles, Gawn/Fyfe ect and those that use CC are more likely to have captaincy troubles :P

Stats can never hurt though!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: upthemaidens on October 27, 2016, 10:44:46 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 27, 2016, 10:40:17 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on October 27, 2016, 10:36:36 PM
Just out of interest.  Does anyone have the averages of using stand alone Captains compared to using Co-Captains ?

I'm guessing a solo Captain is a higher average, but volatile.  CC would be more stable and a "safer" option.  I wonder how big of a difference the average is.

Wouldnt really be a fair comparison as generally those that use stand alone captains have a beast captain options example Danger, Pendles, Gawn/Fyfe ect and those that use CC are more likely to have captaincy troubles :P

Stats can never hurt though!
Yeah I just of thought of that after typing..

Edit note: I'd expect if you don't have a stand out Captain choice, then using CC would be more beneficial.
  If you have a 20 point gap between M1 and M2, then a solo Capt would be of greater advantage..

That certainly would change the numbers and affect the stats.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 27, 2016, 10:57:27 PM
Just look at our results and compare

We pretty much always do CC  :'(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on October 27, 2016, 11:01:49 PM
I dislike the idea of CC because unless they score the same, you're guaranteed to not get the best possible captain score :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 27, 2016, 11:05:27 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 27, 2016, 11:01:49 PM
I dislike the idea of CC because unless they score the same, you're guaranteed to not get the best possible captain score :P

Goes both ways though

When you don't have a clear stand out, you could put the C on one and VC the other only for the C to spud out a 70 and flower you - just reduces the risk element by going with CC
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on October 27, 2016, 11:07:55 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 27, 2016, 11:05:27 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 27, 2016, 11:01:49 PM
I dislike the idea of CC because unless they score the same, you're guaranteed to not get the best possible captain score :P

Goes both ways though

When you don't have a clear stand out, you could put the C on one and VC the other only for the C to spud out a 70 and flower you - just reduces the risk element by going with CC
Nah, just go with your gut! More fun that way ;D

Only reason I'd use CC is if I had someone like Tommy J, and thought he was due to kick a bag and could go huge (same goes with guys like JJK, Buddy, Mckernan, etc), but wasn't entirely confident.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: fanTCfool on October 27, 2016, 11:18:00 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 27, 2016, 11:07:55 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 27, 2016, 11:05:27 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 27, 2016, 11:01:49 PM
I dislike the idea of CC because unless they score the same, you're guaranteed to not get the best possible captain score :P

Goes both ways though

When you don't have a clear stand out, you could put the C on one and VC the other only for the C to spud out a 70 and flower you - just reduces the risk element by going with CC
Nah, just go with your gut! More fun that way ;D

Only reason I'd use CC is if I had someone like Tommy J, and thought he was due to kick a bag and could go huge (same goes with guys like JJK, Buddy, Mckernan, etc), but wasn't entirely confident.

Someone's gotta call this out.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: iZander on October 27, 2016, 11:23:24 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 27, 2016, 11:07:55 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 27, 2016, 11:05:27 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 27, 2016, 11:01:49 PM
I dislike the idea of CC because unless they score the same, you're guaranteed to not get the best possible captain score :P

Goes both ways though

When you don't have a clear stand out, you could put the C on one and VC the other only for the C to spud out a 70 and flower you - just reduces the risk element by going with CC
Nah, just go with your gut! More fun that way ;D
Did your gut have anything to do with Riska over Cotch round2 in BXV? Cant imagine that was much fun ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on October 27, 2016, 11:25:30 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 27, 2016, 11:23:24 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 27, 2016, 11:07:55 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 27, 2016, 11:05:27 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 27, 2016, 11:01:49 PM
I dislike the idea of CC because unless they score the same, you're guaranteed to not get the best possible captain score :P

Goes both ways though

When you don't have a clear stand out, you could put the C on one and VC the other only for the C to spud out a 70 and flower you - just reduces the risk element by going with CC
Nah, just go with your gut! More fun that way ;D
Did your gut have anything to do with Riska over Cotch round2 in BXV? Cant imagine that was much fun ;)
Get outta my life.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: iZander on October 27, 2016, 11:26:51 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 27, 2016, 11:25:30 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 27, 2016, 11:23:24 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 27, 2016, 11:07:55 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 27, 2016, 11:05:27 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 27, 2016, 11:01:49 PM
I dislike the idea of CC because unless they score the same, you're guaranteed to not get the best possible captain score :P

Goes both ways though

When you don't have a clear stand out, you could put the C on one and VC the other only for the C to spud out a 70 and flower you - just reduces the risk element by going with CC
Nah, just go with your gut! More fun that way ;D
Did your gut have anything to do with Riska over Cotch round2 in BXV? Cant imagine that was much fun ;)
Get outta my life.
hehe ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on October 27, 2016, 11:59:34 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 27, 2016, 11:18:00 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 27, 2016, 11:07:55 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 27, 2016, 11:05:27 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 27, 2016, 11:01:49 PM
I dislike the idea of CC because unless they score the same, you're guaranteed to not get the best possible captain score :P
Goes both ways though

When you don't have a clear stand out, you could put the C on one and VC the other only for the C to spud out a 70 and flower you - just reduces the risk element by going with CC
Nah, just go with your gut! More fun that way ;D

Only reason I'd use CC is if I had someone like Tommy J, and thought he was due to kick a bag and could go huge (same goes with guys like JJK, Buddy, Mckernan, etc), but wasn't entirely confident.
Someone's gotta call this out.
Don't even mention him after he won Meowtwo's Champs League match against us 2 years ago >:(.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on October 28, 2016, 12:01:41 AM
Quote from: Hellopplz on October 27, 2016, 11:59:34 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 27, 2016, 11:18:00 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 27, 2016, 11:07:55 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 27, 2016, 11:05:27 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 27, 2016, 11:01:49 PM
I dislike the idea of CC because unless they score the same, you're guaranteed to not get the best possible captain score :P
Goes both ways though

When you don't have a clear stand out, you could put the C on one and VC the other only for the C to spud out a 70 and flower you - just reduces the risk element by going with CC
Nah, just go with your gut! More fun that way ;D

Only reason I'd use CC is if I had someone like Tommy J, and thought he was due to kick a bag and could go huge (same goes with guys like JJK, Buddy, Mckernan, etc), but wasn't entirely confident.
Someone's gotta call this out.
Don't even mention him after he won Meowtwo's Champs League match against us 2 years ago >:(.
Bunny gets it ;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on October 28, 2016, 10:06:27 AM
The point people are forgeting is high risk high reward suits some teams and not others.

If a team is likely to lose they should play a sole captain as if he pulls 70 who cares if he pulls 150 you can win.

If you likely to win a 70 can lose you the game so go CC as a 150 v 120 just means a bigger win.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 28, 2016, 10:50:44 AM
OK here is the argument based on Royals Team.

My Co Captains would be Hanners and Shuey.  Using averages last year Hanners averaged 114 and Shuey 106.

So based on averages Hanners as sole captain 228
Using Co Captains Hanners 171 and Shuey 159  Total 330.
Know this is hypothetical using averages but by using co captains I reckon I can at least 50 ppg except when both spud.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 28, 2016, 10:52:44 AM
You forgot to add Shuey's score in when Hanners is C

Hanners 228 + Shuey 106 = 334
Hanners 171 + Shuey 159 = 330
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 28, 2016, 10:55:06 AM
Dah Thanks RD torpedoes argument and now basically shows there is not much difference then between Captain and CCs for me.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 28, 2016, 10:57:25 AM
Any team with a 110+ averaging player should go C

Any team without that is more likely to go CC just to try and reduce variance

That being said, luck will always play a big part
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: iZander on October 28, 2016, 11:04:29 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 28, 2016, 10:57:25 AM
Any team with a 110+ averaging player should go C

Any team without that is more likely to go CC just to try and reduce variance

That being said, luck will always play a big part
Its more so to do with how big the difference is between your best and second best player :P Can imagine Berlin might have a pretty dangerous CC duo with Fyfe/Gawn next year?

And as Holz says, also who your playing and if you want the safer option or the higher/lower roof.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on October 28, 2016, 11:08:56 AM
Quote from: iZander on October 28, 2016, 11:04:29 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 28, 2016, 10:57:25 AM
Any team with a 110+ averaging player should go C

Any team without that is more likely to go CC just to try and reduce variance

That being said, luck will always play a big part
Its more so to do with how big the difference is between your best and second best player :P Can imagine Berlin might have a pretty dangerous CC duo with Fyfe/Gawn next year?

And as Holz says, also who your playing and if you want the safer option or the higher/lower roof.
That's if Maxy can keep it up, Rucks tend to fluctuate or get injured.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on November 17, 2016, 09:20:03 AM
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-rookies-could-be-eligible-to-play-from-round-1-expanded-lists-as-soon-as-2018/news-story/4b9f814f27debec43c03fcf969477483

Given this development should we be doing away with our rookie list as well or at least allow them to play without restriction.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 17, 2016, 09:31:00 AM
Quote from: Ringo on November 17, 2016, 09:20:03 AM
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-rookies-could-be-eligible-to-play-from-round-1-expanded-lists-as-soon-as-2018/news-story/4b9f814f27debec43c03fcf969477483

Given this development should we be doing away with our rookie list as well or at least allow them to play without restriction.

Saw that last night and thought the same thing

I'd say that once the AFL does it, we will too

Long overdue imo. Rookie lists and promotions are pointless
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on November 17, 2016, 09:34:39 AM
Yeah we'll only do it once the AFL does
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on November 17, 2016, 04:33:43 PM
So if AFL allows Rookies from Rd 1 without promotions etc will we do the same? That is all our rookies can be named from Rd 1 maybe.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on November 17, 2016, 04:36:07 PM
Quote from: Ringo on November 17, 2016, 04:33:43 PM
So if AFL allows Rookies from Rd 1 without promotions etc will we do the same? That is all our rookies can be named from Rd 1 maybe.
IMO it should only come into effect next year since some have traded for rookie picks, but don't really mind tbh
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on November 17, 2016, 05:16:44 PM
Hmm. I reckon we'll cross the bridge once we get to it
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on November 20, 2016, 09:12:22 PM
BXVs coaching position available

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,108219.0.html
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on November 22, 2016, 05:54:04 PM
Lucky you grabbed TMac Holz  :-X

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-11-22/club-statement-chris-yarran
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on November 22, 2016, 06:48:37 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 22, 2016, 05:54:04 PM
Lucky you grabbed TMac Holz  :-X

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-11-22/club-statement-chris-yarran

Sad news.

Well he is the reason i grabed tmac.

What happens now? Is he delisted.

I'm very anoyed i traded mackie for cap reasons
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 22, 2016, 07:18:57 PM
That's sad news

Sounded like he was going well recently, even training too

I think you delist him now holz as he is not on any afl team list
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on November 22, 2016, 09:19:16 PM
Yeah he gets delisted
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jukes on November 22, 2016, 10:16:05 PM
Compo
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 25, 2016, 10:34:00 AM
Just a quick question

List lodgement due next week. What if we have a player who is currently delisted, but we want to keep them just in case they get picked up in the PSD after list lodgement?

Can we keep them, or do we have to delist them and hope we can get them in the rookie draft?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on November 25, 2016, 10:34:50 AM
Good question RD - I've got a couple where there's speculation that they might get picked up.

Also, when are we looking to start the draft? (sorry if this has been covered already :P)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on November 25, 2016, 12:28:54 PM
PSD is November 28th right? List lodgements are due after the 30th and are locked in once everyone has lodged their list.

So you'll know if every player is on a list or not before your lodgement is due
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 25, 2016, 12:42:02 PM
Ah yep cool, just saw that PSD is 4pm Mon Nov 28 and Rookie draft is 10 mins later

Hoping Marcon gets picked up!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 26, 2016, 03:50:56 PM
Didn't want to post in the new thread because I figure that's just for selecting players, but am I correct in assuming that a 6th and 7th round will be added, so that we can use those picks to pass which will allow us to use our PSD picks?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 26, 2016, 04:14:26 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 26, 2016, 03:50:56 PM
Didn't want to post in the new thread because I figure that's just for selecting players, but am I correct in assuming that a 6th and 7th round will be added, so that we can use those picks to pass which will allow us to use our PSD picks?
Yep, that will happen.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on November 26, 2016, 04:20:31 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 26, 2016, 04:14:26 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 26, 2016, 03:50:56 PM
Didn't want to post in the new thread because I figure that's just for selecting players, but am I correct in assuming that a 6th and 7th round will be added, so that we can use those picks to pass which will allow us to use our PSD picks?
Yep, that will happen.

Yarp.

Also feel free to talk BS in the draft thread lol, as long as its somewhat relevant. But even then, idc
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on November 26, 2016, 04:28:08 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 27, 2016, 04:50:05 PM
This is a truly sad day for Church

Abe has been delisted  :'(

Brother Ben is raring to go!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 28, 2016, 05:20:14 PM
Shame Marcon didn't get picked up

Fitzy survives and stays on the NY list!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on November 28, 2016, 05:21:28 PM
Ahh... how to fit Petrie in the cap...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on November 28, 2016, 05:27:10 PM
Couldn't have picked a better club for Jake Barrett ;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on November 28, 2016, 05:31:47 PM
ill draft Jonty then delist him and have first rights next year, all good?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Adamant on December 02, 2016, 03:40:11 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 17, 2016, 02:47:36 PM
Quote from: Adamant on November 17, 2016, 02:05:02 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 16, 2016, 10:20:10 PM
Just over 48 hours to go!  :o

Surely there's going to be some big last minute trades coming through  ???

Happy? :P

He said big trade. Trading the best player in WXV history to a team without a forward line won't have any significant ramifications.

Yeah... think I'm ok for forwards.

Fwd: J Macrae (WB), R Douglas (Adel), A Brayshaw (Melb), J De Goey (Coll), J Hopper (GWS), N Hrovat (NM), L Taylor (Bris), S Kersten (Freo), A Monfries (Port), B Ah Chee (Port), C Pedersen (Melb), T Lamb (WC), L Hulett (Melb), M Allen (WC)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on December 02, 2016, 10:49:39 PM
Quote from: Adamant on December 02, 2016, 03:40:11 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 17, 2016, 02:47:36 PM
Quote from: Adamant on November 17, 2016, 02:05:02 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 16, 2016, 10:20:10 PM
Just over 48 hours to go!  :o

Surely there's going to be some big last minute trades coming through  ???

Happy? :P

He said big trade. Trading the best player in WXV history to a team without a forward line won't have any significant ramifications.

Yeah... think I'm ok for forwards.

Fwd: J Macrae (WB), R Douglas (Adel), A Brayshaw (Melb), J De Goey (Coll), J Hopper (GWS), N Hrovat (NM), L Taylor (Bris), S Kersten (Freo), A Monfries (Port), B Ah Chee (Port), C Pedersen (Melb), T Lamb (WC), L Hulett (Melb), M Allen (WC)
Hehe Checkmate.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on December 03, 2016, 03:14:11 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on December 02, 2016, 10:49:39 PM
Quote from: Adamant on December 02, 2016, 03:40:11 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 17, 2016, 02:47:36 PM
Quote from: Adamant on November 17, 2016, 02:05:02 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 16, 2016, 10:20:10 PM
Just over 48 hours to go!  :o

Surely there's going to be some big last minute trades coming through  ???

Happy? :P

He said big trade. Trading the best player in WXV history to a team without a forward line won't have any significant ramifications.

Yeah... think I'm ok for forwards.

Fwd: J Macrae (WB), R Douglas (Adel), A Brayshaw (Melb), J De Goey (Coll), J Hopper (GWS), N Hrovat (NM), L Taylor (Bris), S Kersten (Freo), A Monfries (Port), B Ah Chee (Port), C Pedersen (Melb), T Lamb (WC), L Hulett (Melb), M Allen (WC)
Hehe Checkmate.
Throw in Mitch Wallis later in the year as well!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on December 03, 2016, 03:31:21 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 03, 2016, 03:14:11 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on December 02, 2016, 10:49:39 PM
Quote from: Adamant on December 02, 2016, 03:40:11 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 17, 2016, 02:47:36 PM
Quote from: Adamant on November 17, 2016, 02:05:02 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 16, 2016, 10:20:10 PM
Just over 48 hours to go!  :o

Surely there's going to be some big last minute trades coming through  ???

Happy? :P

He said big trade. Trading the best player in WXV history to a team without a forward line won't have any significant ramifications.

Yeah... think I'm ok for forwards.

Fwd: J Macrae (WB), R Douglas (Adel), A Brayshaw (Melb), J De Goey (Coll), J Hopper (GWS), N Hrovat (NM), L Taylor (Bris), S Kersten (Freo), A Monfries (Port), B Ah Chee (Port), C Pedersen (Melb), T Lamb (WC), L Hulett (Melb), M Allen (WC)
Hehe Checkmate.
Throw in Mitch Wallis later in the year as well!
Wallis is M/F...?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on December 03, 2016, 03:44:39 PM
Quote from: GoLions on December 03, 2016, 03:31:21 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 03, 2016, 03:14:11 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on December 02, 2016, 10:49:39 PM
Quote from: Adamant on December 02, 2016, 03:40:11 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 17, 2016, 02:47:36 PM
Quote from: Adamant on November 17, 2016, 02:05:02 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 16, 2016, 10:20:10 PM
Just over 48 hours to go!  :o

Surely there's going to be some big last minute trades coming through  ???

Happy? :P

He said big trade. Trading the best player in WXV history to a team without a forward line won't have any significant ramifications.

Yeah... think I'm ok for forwards.

Fwd: J Macrae (WB), R Douglas (Adel), A Brayshaw (Melb), J De Goey (Coll), J Hopper (GWS), N Hrovat (NM), L Taylor (Bris), S Kersten (Freo), A Monfries (Port), B Ah Chee (Port), C Pedersen (Melb), T Lamb (WC), L Hulett (Melb), M Allen (WC)
Hehe Checkmate.
Throw in Mitch Wallis later in the year as well!
Wallis is M/F...?
Ya
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on December 03, 2016, 03:45:03 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 03, 2016, 03:44:39 PM
Quote from: GoLions on December 03, 2016, 03:31:21 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 03, 2016, 03:14:11 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on December 02, 2016, 10:49:39 PM
Quote from: Adamant on December 02, 2016, 03:40:11 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 17, 2016, 02:47:36 PM
Quote from: Adamant on November 17, 2016, 02:05:02 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 16, 2016, 10:20:10 PM
Just over 48 hours to go!  :o

Surely there's going to be some big last minute trades coming through  ???

Happy? :P

He said big trade. Trading the best player in WXV history to a team without a forward line won't have any significant ramifications.

Yeah... think I'm ok for forwards.

Fwd: J Macrae (WB), R Douglas (Adel), A Brayshaw (Melb), J De Goey (Coll), J Hopper (GWS), N Hrovat (NM), L Taylor (Bris), S Kersten (Freo), A Monfries (Port), B Ah Chee (Port), C Pedersen (Melb), T Lamb (WC), L Hulett (Melb), M Allen (WC)
Hehe Checkmate.
Throw in Mitch Wallis later in the year as well!
Wallis is M/F...?
Ya
fuark, Ada has hit the jackpot here haha
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on December 03, 2016, 03:50:34 PM
Ada with a decent forwardline and Pendles?

Forget Dublin and NDT, Toronto Premiership favourite IMO.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 05, 2016, 01:35:09 PM
Geez Brad Crouch you better be a superstar.

Buddy at F4 would almost give me a flag considering I have Kieran Jack sitting on the bench. I also moved on Roughy in this deal and there is talks of him playing round 1. Could have Roughy as my F5 :O

did the trade for cap reasons, if Crouch falters and Roughy plays round 1, watch my hatred of the Cap go to a whole new level.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on December 11, 2016, 04:42:50 PM
WXV Guessing Game - Who is the player wearing number 33 here?



(https://media.giphy.com/media/pOXibRBKrN1V6/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Adamant on December 11, 2016, 04:55:33 PM
Nick Larkey.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: fanTCfool on December 11, 2016, 04:57:05 PM
Majak Daw
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jukes on December 11, 2016, 05:03:08 PM
Albert Thurgood
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on December 11, 2016, 05:05:48 PM
Quote from: Adamant on December 11, 2016, 04:55:33 PM
Nick Larkey.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on December 12, 2016, 03:56:57 AM
Quote from: fanTCfool on December 11, 2016, 04:57:05 PM
Majak Daw
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on December 12, 2016, 01:54:34 PM
Dikembe Mutumbo
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on December 16, 2016, 08:38:10 PM
Loving all the articles I'm reading about Heeney

Best trade we've made

Future GOAT  8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 16, 2016, 08:44:57 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 16, 2016, 08:38:10 PM
Loving all the articles I'm reading about Heeney

Best trade we've made

Future GOAT  8)

yeah Sidey such a spud
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on December 16, 2016, 08:48:01 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 16, 2016, 08:44:57 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 16, 2016, 08:38:10 PM
Loving all the articles I'm reading about Heeney

Best trade we've made

Future GOAT  8)

yeah Sidey such a spud

??

I didn't say it was a bad trade for NDT. I'm just happy we actually traded Shaw to get Heeney
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on December 16, 2016, 08:50:57 PM
Articles don't score points.

Gibbs scores points.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 16, 2016, 09:01:04 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 16, 2016, 08:48:01 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 16, 2016, 08:44:57 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 16, 2016, 08:38:10 PM
Loving all the articles I'm reading about Heeney

Best trade we've made

Future GOAT  8)

yeah Sidey such a spud

??

I didn't say it was a bad trade for NDT. I'm just happy we actually traded Shaw to get Heeney

forgot it was a 3 way trade my bad.

who needs a 105 defender and 97 young defender I say.

if that trade went down today I would say its all round pretty even.

reckon mexico slight winners, NDT even and NY slight losers. would pass it though
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on December 16, 2016, 09:01:36 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 16, 2016, 08:44:57 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 16, 2016, 08:38:10 PM
Loving all the articles I'm reading about Heeney

Best trade we've made

Future GOAT  8)

yeah Sidey such a spud

Yeah we're pretty happy with Sidey 8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on December 17, 2016, 07:29:43 PM
Trade Process
B) Give the admin total power over trade rulings.

Leadership Groups
A) Keep it: with all restrictions and allowances i.e. mid-season re-selection, injury demotions/promotions

Former Player Bidding
A) Don't change a thing

B cannot work. It's already too lenient with not having to give up a pick in the next round (someone can bid pick 1, the team with rights can match with pick 100 - should have to give up a pick within 18 spots IMO.


Trade Period
The admin's ruling of trades that attract between 4-7 votes: 5
Consistency of admin's approach to ruling trades: 5
Promptness of processing trades: 5
The overall smoothness of the trade period: 5

Comments about the trade period (optional): Nathan Wilson

Comments about the year in general (optional): Gibbs > Rocky

Anything specific about any aspect/lingering issue of Worlds you'd like to bring up? (optional): Compo.
And that you're doing an absolutely outstanding job Purps, so thanks!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on December 18, 2016, 06:05:35 PM
Cheers meow!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 19, 2016, 12:49:25 PM
Dusty apparently going to go back to his forward roll.

give this man DPP back champion data.

reckon he will drop to 105 but get dp back so fantastic news for 2018.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on December 19, 2016, 01:03:24 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 19, 2016, 12:49:25 PM
Dusty apparently going to go back to his forward roll.

give this man DPP back champion data.

reckon he will drop to 105 but get dp back so fantastic news for 2018.
Prestia and Caddy coming in... The drop could be more than 105
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 19, 2016, 01:11:26 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 19, 2016, 01:03:24 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 19, 2016, 12:49:25 PM
Dusty apparently going to go back to his forward roll.

give this man DPP back champion data.

reckon he will drop to 105 but get dp back so fantastic news for 2018.
Prestia and Caddy coming in... The drop could be more than 105

not really he has scored 105 in that role before.

was pushing 112 when he was in that mid role.

Prestia and Caddy arent worthy of carrying Martin's bags. Martin is the best mid on the team easy, thing is he is much much better then all the forwards.

he is simply just a gun.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on December 19, 2016, 01:15:53 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 19, 2016, 01:11:26 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 19, 2016, 01:03:24 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 19, 2016, 12:49:25 PM
Dusty apparently going to go back to his forward roll.

give this man DPP back champion data.

reckon he will drop to 105 but get dp back so fantastic news for 2018.
Prestia and Caddy coming in... The drop could be more than 105

not really he has scored 105 in that role before.

was pushing 112 when he was in that mid role.

Prestia and Caddy arent worthy of carrying Martin's bags. Martin is the best mid on the team easy, thing is he is much much better then all the forwards.

he is simply just a gun.
He may be better, but that doesn't mean he won't spend less time in the middle because of them.

That 105 wasn't with Prestia and Caddy though, so its a bit of an unknown. Since he's a much better forward than them we could see him spending bulk time in the goal square for some games.

2018 looks great for dpp. But 2017's scoring? Who knows
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on December 19, 2016, 01:53:40 PM
Gibbs will outscore him.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on December 19, 2016, 02:11:33 PM
Quote from: meow meow on December 19, 2016, 01:53:40 PM
Gibbs will outscore him.

Gibbs is a elite, he will only be outscored by one man in 2017 and thats Luke Shuey
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 19, 2016, 03:04:01 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 19, 2016, 01:15:53 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 19, 2016, 01:11:26 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 19, 2016, 01:03:24 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 19, 2016, 12:49:25 PM
Dusty apparently going to go back to his forward roll.

give this man DPP back champion data.

reckon he will drop to 105 but get dp back so fantastic news for 2018.
Prestia and Caddy coming in... The drop could be more than 105

not really he has scored 105 in that role before.

was pushing 112 when he was in that mid role.

Prestia and Caddy arent worthy of carrying Martin's bags. Martin is the best mid on the team easy, thing is he is much much better then all the forwards.

he is simply just a gun.
He may be better, but that doesn't mean he won't spend less time in the middle because of them.

That 105 wasn't with Prestia and Caddy though, so its a bit of an unknown. Since he's a much better forward than them we could see him spending bulk time in the goal square for some games.

2018 looks great for dpp. But 2017's scoring? Who knows

he's that talented he will find the ball anywhere and its not like they will stick him forward pocket he will be off a HFF.

another thing to note is yeah Presita Caddy come in but Lids has gone out so that cancels out one of them plus extra. Actually dont rate either guy that highly.

the worrying factor is if you look at games with lids and wihtout lids last year there has to be a 10+ point differential. Thats my worry not prestia caddy.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 19, 2016, 03:06:13 PM
Quote from: meow meow on December 19, 2016, 01:53:40 PM
Gibbs will outscore him.

Meow,  NDT and Dublin are talking here, no need to talk about irrelevant players on irrelevant teams.

Weits will outscore Gibbs in the WXV finals

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on December 19, 2016, 04:26:43 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 19, 2016, 03:06:13 PM
Quote from: meow meow on December 19, 2016, 01:53:40 PM
Gibbs will outscore him.

Meow,  NDT and Dublin are talking here, no need to talk about irrelevant players on irrelevant teams.

Weits will outscore Gibbs in the WXV finals

You realize he's getting traded to the reigning premiers, right?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 19, 2016, 04:39:47 PM
Quote from: meow meow on December 19, 2016, 04:26:43 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 19, 2016, 03:06:13 PM
Quote from: meow meow on December 19, 2016, 01:53:40 PM
Gibbs will outscore him.

Meow,  NDT and Dublin are talking here, no need to talk about irrelevant players on irrelevant teams.

Weits will outscore Gibbs in the WXV finals

You realize he's getting traded to the reigning premiers, right?

have you given up on pumping Mexico up.

and no i didnt realise, wont put an offer in as I know you will accept a lower offer elsewhere.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on December 19, 2016, 09:32:10 PM
Quote from: elephants on December 19, 2016, 02:11:33 PM
Quote from: meow meow on December 19, 2016, 01:53:40 PM
Gibbs will outscore him.

Gibbs is a elite, he will only be outscored by one man in 2017 and thats Luke Shuey Rocky
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 21, 2016, 05:11:12 PM
Fun Fact:

Intercept marks after 20 career games - Weitering 39, Taylor 33, T. McDonald 29, SD. Thompson 28 and Rance 6.

Bonus Fact. Only wiets did that in his first year. what a gun

(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/538d44a4e4b0724f5a324a35/t/577306c5893fc001ed2704ac/1467156173605/)

Bonus Bonus Fact: 2017 WXV Premiership Medalist.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on December 21, 2016, 05:53:14 PM
and both have missed this stat And Harris Andrews 43 intercept marks after 20 games
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 21, 2016, 06:04:43 PM
Quote from: Ringo on December 21, 2016, 05:53:14 PM
and both have missed this stat And Harris Andrews 43 intercept marks after 20 games

where do you get these kind of stats from? I find them really interesying and usefull but tough to get. I only saw a tweet from champion data on the above topic.

only been able to see the mid year 2016 because i found an article. Andrews was 2.5 per game as was Weits. Certainly rate andrews though hope brisbane can rebound after a few years being down. Like the look of schace alot.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on December 21, 2016, 06:18:22 PM
Gibbs > Andrews > Weitering
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on December 22, 2016, 10:16:30 AM
Rance/TMac/Weits

Delicious

Not so for the rest of us though
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on December 22, 2016, 12:33:27 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 22, 2016, 10:16:30 AM
Rance/TMac/Weits

Delicious

Not so for the rest of us though
Well they are key defenders so they can be inconsistent. They are prone to putting in a stinker every now and then
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 22, 2016, 12:50:40 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on December 22, 2016, 12:33:27 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 22, 2016, 10:16:30 AM
Rance/TMac/Weits

Delicious

Not so for the rest of us though
Well they are key defenders so they can be inconsistent. They are prone to putting in a stinker every now and then

you would think that but its actually not that true

Rance with a season low of 67. a 98 average with only 3 scores over 120 means he is actually pretty consistent. The man can go sub 50 DT and go 90+ SC.

Tmac did have a few stinkers early on but from round 8 onwards only went sub 90 4 times with 71 73 77 82

Weits is a rookie who picked up a few niggle injuries.

I find the gun key backs start of with stinkers then they get rid of them and turn their stinkers into decent 70-85 games.

I actually find the half back flank guys are more inconsitent as the key backs always seem to get spoils, intercept marks and cant be tagged. HBF need the ball to score and can be tagged.

Birchall is my most inconsistent defender (besides weits) with 6 sub 70 scores that include a couple of 50s.

Shaw can throw up a few junk games to counter his monsters.

The reason i go for key defenders is their consistency :P I find they peform year after year if you get good ones. Rance has gone 84 86 87 89 97 98

HBF seem to have monster years, then down years and of course during the year go very big and then get tagged a few times and really struggle.



Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on December 25, 2016, 01:46:44 AM
Merry Christmas WXV.

Just remember Ben Jacobs is THE number 1 tagger and will ruin your season.

Nah srs hope everyone has a good holiday :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on December 28, 2016, 12:25:02 PM
Hey all!

Hoping everyone is having some great time off and had a merry christmas/happy holiday.

Just been getting around to some of the votes/feedback some have already sent in. I've read it all, and its ALL been great; the constructive feedback has been outstanding, keep it up :D but a lot of it was just... awesome to read as well, thanks very much :)

Just as a status update, 9.5 teams to go, but as I said in the PM, there is zero rush as I'm sure we're all taking some deserved rest.

Some popular options have presented themselves, a couple to my surprise too.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on January 01, 2017, 04:57:07 PM
St Kilda’s Jade Gresham is still only 19 and is preparing for just his second of football, but he’s already a standout.

He rated above average for disposals last season and could well be elite by the end of 2017 with more midfield time.

“To be honest, he couldn’t have had a more impressive start to his career,” St Kilda coach Alan Richardson said.

“He predominantly played as a forward, he pinch hit from time to time as a midfielder. That’s where he’ll end up, we need him to become a midfielder, a really dynamic inside mid that can create opportunities with his lateral movement and with his skills; that’s going to be the focus of his pre-season.”

(https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder103/400x/56234103.jpg)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jukes on January 01, 2017, 05:30:19 PM
Who?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on January 31, 2017, 07:23:34 PM
Although there are 3 coaches left to vote, I can well and truly announce that upthemaidens is now a co-coach at the Pacific Islanders!

Although already been around for a little bit and privy to how Worlds works, welcome to Worlds all the same! Congrats  8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: upthemaidens on January 31, 2017, 08:00:17 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on January 31, 2017, 07:23:34 PM
Although there are 3 coaches left to vote, I can well and truly announce that upthemaidens is now a co-coach at the Pacific Islanders!

Although already been around for a little bit and privy to how Worlds works, welcome to Worlds all the same! Congrats  8)
Thank you very much Purps, it's an honour to be co-coach of the Islanders.   Can't wait for that juicy pay rise and the key to the executive bathroom. 
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on February 01, 2017, 12:24:46 AM
Quote from: upthemaidens on January 31, 2017, 08:00:17 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on January 31, 2017, 07:23:34 PM
Although there are 3 coaches left to vote, I can well and truly announce that upthemaidens is now a co-coach at the Pacific Islanders!

Although already been around for a little bit and privy to how Worlds works, welcome to Worlds all the same! Congrats  8)
Thank you very much Purps, it's an honour to be co-coach of the Islanders.   Can't wait for that juicy pay rise and the key to the executive bathroom.
Please don't tell Daz about that for co-coaches :-X.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on February 01, 2017, 08:15:16 AM
Quote from: Hellopplz on February 01, 2017, 12:24:46 AM
Quote from: upthemaidens on January 31, 2017, 08:00:17 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on January 31, 2017, 07:23:34 PM
Although there are 3 coaches left to vote, I can well and truly announce that upthemaidens is now a co-coach at the Pacific Islanders!

Although already been around for a little bit and privy to how Worlds works, welcome to Worlds all the same! Congrats  8)
Thank you very much Purps, it's an honour to be co-coach of the Islanders.   Can't wait for that juicy pay rise and the key to the executive bathroom.

:O Dom!!!

haha
congrats UTM :D
Please don't tell Daz about that for co-coaches :-X.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: upthemaidens on February 01, 2017, 09:45:15 AM
Quote from: DazBurg on February 01, 2017, 08:15:16 AM
Quote from: Hellopplz on February 01, 2017, 12:24:46 AM
Quote from: upthemaidens on January 31, 2017, 08:00:17 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on January 31, 2017, 07:23:34 PM
Although there are 3 coaches left to vote, I can well and truly announce that upthemaidens is now a co-coach at the Pacific Islanders!

Although already been around for a little bit and privy to how Worlds works, welcome to Worlds all the same! Congrats  8)
Thank you very much Purps, it's an honour to be co-coach of the Islanders.   Can't wait for that juicy pay rise and the key to the executive bathroom.

:O Dom!!!

haha
congrats UTM :D
Please don't tell Daz about that for co-coaches :-X.
Thanks guys.     ...BTW that bathroom is pure luxury and we all know that a Maiden needs to poop in comfort. :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on February 01, 2017, 12:18:40 PM
How on earth did we get stricter on voting?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on February 01, 2017, 12:22:47 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on February 01, 2017, 12:18:40 PM
How on earth did we get stricter on voting?
You might wanna go through those results again Torpy
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on February 01, 2017, 12:25:01 PM
Quote from: GoLions on February 01, 2017, 12:22:47 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on February 01, 2017, 12:18:40 PM
How on earth did we get stricter on voting?
You might wanna go through those results again Torpy

My guess is he is talking about the 2 trades that just went down.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on February 02, 2017, 01:11:41 PM
Also, a thank you to Ada for updating the team banners in the World XV - Directory, About Us and Official Rulebook (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,51596.0.html) thread.

I like to think I've updated all the rules too, let me know if you see anything I've missed or want any "guideline" kinda things included.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on February 05, 2017, 03:25:54 PM
Would you be interested in managing a Women's WXV team this year? We've had a coach leave and there's an opening if anyone wants it? Here is a chance to be apart of history. AFLW has taken the footy world by storm and will only get bigger from here. The WXVW season will be finished prior to the men's AFL commencing so it won't cross over into SC, XVs, DT or whatever comps you are in.

Barcelona List:
1. Emma King (R)
2. Sabrina Frederick-Traub (F/R)
3. Ebony Marinoff (M)
4. Bianca Jakobsson (F)
5. Nicole Hildebrand (B)
6. Caitlyn Edwards (B)
7. Tiah Haynes (M)
8. Bree White (M/F)
9. Hannah Scott (M)
10. Melissa Caulfield (F/M)
11. Jasmine Garner (F)
12. Penny Cula-Reid (B)
13. Britt Tully (M)
14. Sarah Last (B)
15. Demi Okley (M/F)
16. Katherine Smith (M)
17. Tayla Bresland (B)
18. Jess Gardner (F/B)
19. Katie Loynes (M)
20. Selina Goodman (M)
21. Ruby Schleicher (R)
22. Melissa Kuys (M)
23. Nat Exon (M)
24. Kendra Heil (M/F)
25. Caitlin Collins (B)
26. Sophie Casey (F)
27. Rebecca Neaves (M)

The team is looking good. Well as good as it can after only 3 games into the year ahah. Marinoff and Jakobsson look elite as do Edwards and Tully. We'll get a look at Sabrina Frederick-Traub today.

I'll leave this open til tonight as we need a coach ASAP!

Register your interest here: http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,108172.0.html
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on February 07, 2017, 04:54:28 PM
WXV Fixture. I just realised I need to make one.

Thoughts on matching up your last 5 games of the year with the teams that finished in your "third" of the 2016 ladder? Like? Dislike? Early replies are likely to shape up what I end up doing coz I ain't sending out a vote on this :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on February 07, 2017, 05:04:41 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 07, 2017, 04:54:28 PM
WXV Fixture. I just realised I need to make one.

Thoughts on matching up your last 5 games of the year with the teams that finished in your "third" of the 2016 ladder? Like? Dislike? Early replies are likely to shape up what I end up doing coz I ain't sending out a vote on this :P

Hate the 1/3 system.

For top teams it means the first 2 months are boring. Then the last month all the good games in a row. Also means if you have a key player injured like a ruck getting injured in first month or last is a huge difference.

Spread it around so for exanole split into 3rd.

Then go A B C A B C etc..

So teams can top teams look forward to a tough matchup every 3 weeks. Bottom teams can look forward to a winable game every 3 weeks. Rather then getting pumped for like a month then a month of good games.

Will make rhe comp much more fun and also more fair with injuires
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on February 07, 2017, 05:12:57 PM
Like the concept and as Holz suggested is it better to stagger rather than have the 5 straight. May complicate the draw a little but would be more equitable. London could win 5 in a row and then not win another game so deflating.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: PowerBug on February 07, 2017, 05:19:07 PM
Could someone pleasepost the top 8 teams from WXVs last season in finishing order post-finals and including the manager(s) names. When two teams got knocked out in the same week the one higher on the ladder goes first. Cheers :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on February 07, 2017, 05:22:17 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 07, 2017, 05:04:41 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 07, 2017, 04:54:28 PM
WXV Fixture. I just realised I need to make one.

Thoughts on matching up your last 5 games of the year with the teams that finished in your "third" of the 2016 ladder? Like? Dislike? Early replies are likely to shape up what I end up doing coz I ain't sending out a vote on this :P

Hate the 1/3 system.

For top teams it means the first 2 months are boring. Then the last month all the good games in a row. Also means if you have a key player injured like a ruck getting injured in first month or last is a huge difference.

Spread it around so for exanole split into 3rd.

Then go A B C A B C etc..

So teams can top teams look forward to a tough matchup every 3 weeks. Bottom teams can look forward to a winable game every 3 weeks. Rather then getting pumped for like a month then a month of good games.

Will make rhe comp much more fun and also more fair with injuires

Whens the EXV rookie draft starting? Just curious
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on February 07, 2017, 05:39:38 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on February 07, 2017, 05:19:07 PM
Could someone pleasepost the top 8 teams from WXVs last season in finishing order post-finals and including the manager(s) names. When two teams got knocked out in the same week the one higher on the ladder goes first. Cheers :)

So the ladder post-finals ladder? Like the version where Western Bulldogs finish 1st and not 7th?

If so, it looked like this:

1   Rio de Janeiro Jaguars - Levi434
2   New Delhi Tigers - elephants & Ricochet
3   Dublin Destroyers - Holz
4   Mexico City Suns - JROO8
5   Paris Nice Lyon Reindeers - Hellopplz & DazBurg
6   New York Revolution - AaronKirk & RaisyDaisy
7   Pacific Islanders - Jay & upthemaidens
8   Buenos Aires Armadillos - Vinny & iZander



Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on February 07, 2017, 05:42:50 PM
Also, I just realised WXV Round 9 won't finish until AFL Round 11 or Round 12  :-X

Gosh darn Port & Gold Coast have a bye in Round 9, but the bye rounds are over Rounds 11, 12 & 13. They play every week in those.

So seeing as traditionally half of Round 12 & all of Round 13 is the EurAsia/AAP Alliance clash, we can choose whether Port/Gold Coast score for Round 9 comes from Round 11 or Round 12  :-X

I'm probably thinking Round 11... yeah, Round 11. That'll suck!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: PowerBug on February 07, 2017, 05:55:49 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 07, 2017, 05:39:38 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on February 07, 2017, 05:19:07 PM
Could someone pleasepost the top 8 teams from WXVs last season in finishing order post-finals and including the manager(s) names. When two teams got knocked out in the same week the one higher on the ladder goes first. Cheers :)

So the ladder post-finals ladder? Like the version where Western Bulldogs finish 1st and not 7th?

If so, it looked like this:

1   Rio de Janeiro Jaguars - Levi434
2   New Delhi Tigers - elephants & Ricochet
3   Dublin Destroyers - Holz
4   Mexico City Suns - JROO8
5   Paris Nice Lyon Reindeers - Hellopplz & DazBurg
6   New York Revolution - AaronKirk & RaisyDaisy
7   Pacific Islanders - Jay & upthemaidens
8   Buenos Aires Armadillos - Vinny & iZander
That's the version I want thank you :D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on February 10, 2017, 08:38:17 AM
If I still had him, I'd be spewin  :-X

QuoteINJURY-PRONE Adelaide midfielder Brad Crouch is unlikely to play in round one after struggling to overcome a hamstring injury.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on February 10, 2017, 09:52:48 AM
Absolutely no surprise whatsoever

Still think you're the big winner from that trade

Some players just don't have luck with their bodies, and Crouch is one of them
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on February 10, 2017, 11:29:19 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 10, 2017, 08:38:17 AM
If I still had him, I'd be spewin  :-X

QuoteINJURY-PRONE Adelaide midfielder Brad Crouch is unlikely to play in round one after struggling to overcome a hamstring injury.
Quote from: Ricochet on February 01, 2017, 06:42:42 PM
I got one.

Dublin are pie and won't make the 4
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on February 10, 2017, 11:50:31 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 10, 2017, 09:52:48 AM
Absolutely no surprise whatsoever

Still think you're the big winner from that trade

Some players just don't have luck with their bodies, and Crouch is one of them

His serious injuries are a broken leg and foot.

A hamstring strain is just unlucky and can happen to anyone. It has nothing to do with him being injury prone.

Not worried at all he misses a few weeks no big issue.

He has an issue with his foot then im worried.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on February 10, 2017, 12:11:31 PM
It kinda does have everything to do with him being injury prone as he's getting a bit of a history with soft tissue injuries :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on February 10, 2017, 12:53:25 PM
Bad feet lad to bad hammys
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on February 10, 2017, 02:24:44 PM
Quote from: Toga on February 10, 2017, 12:11:31 PM
It kinda does have everything to do with him being injury prone as he's getting a bit of a history with soft tissue injuries :P

Is he?

Not on my research.

Legit asking the question when he has had hammy injuries.

Not fased at all kids young and a star they are being careful with him. He has around 10 years to play
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on February 13, 2017, 04:59:46 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/unp3hKzh.jpg)

Lol all four of them are Suns. Still confident we can get at least one more season of premium scoring from these guys
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on February 16, 2017, 09:14:42 PM
I think it's fair to conclude that Tom Phillips is favourite for Stynes Medal.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on February 17, 2017, 08:18:54 PM
Sloane is fragile and Dublin are pie
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on February 23, 2017, 08:33:00 PM
Shower  :'(

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-02-23/freo-ruckman-zac-clarke-ruled-out-until-second-half-of-season

Hopefully the Tippett/Cameron combo will hold up for us this year

Still can't believe Cameron was available so late when we got him  ;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on February 23, 2017, 09:21:54 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 23, 2017, 08:33:00 PM
Shower  :'(

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-02-23/freo-ruckman-zac-clarke-ruled-out-until-second-half-of-season

Hopefully the Tippett/Cameron combo will hold up for us this year

Still can't believe Cameron was available so late when we got him  ;D
Damn mate that sucks.  :-\

Can't believe we might actually come out better off on a trade, especially with Graham Forward status. Just need Belly to hold a Best 22 spot.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on February 23, 2017, 10:43:57 PM
Haha all good Torpy, I'm sure Belly will break down soon enough :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on February 23, 2017, 11:00:11 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 23, 2017, 10:43:57 PM
Haha all good Torpy, I'm sure Belly will break down soon enough :P
Somehow I am too.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on March 13, 2017, 01:37:42 PM
http://www.gwsgiants.com.au/news/2017-03-13/coniglio-sidelined

Heh, this stuff always seems to happen to Torp
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on March 13, 2017, 02:10:07 PM
Gibbs > Conigs
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on March 13, 2017, 07:14:49 PM
Quote from: GoLions on March 13, 2017, 01:37:42 PM
http://www.gwsgiants.com.au/news/2017-03-13/coniglio-sidelined

Heh, this stuff always seems to happen to Torp
So the Moscow injury curse from 2016 continues on into 2017...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 14, 2017, 10:33:18 AM
NicNat with the beautiful tap to Conigs who takes it on the run and fires a bullet onto the chest of Bellchambers!!

Oh, wait a minute
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on March 14, 2017, 10:36:00 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 14, 2017, 10:33:18 AM
NicNat with the beautiful tap to Conigs who takes it on the run and fires a bullet onto the chest of Bellchambers!!

Oh, wait a minute

I would believe it if it bounced of the chest of Bellchambers and then the opposition picks it up and rebounds the ball.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on March 14, 2017, 11:41:08 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 14, 2017, 10:33:18 AM
NicNat with the beautiful tap to Conigs who takes it on the run and fires a bullet onto the chest of Bellchambers!!

Oh, wait a minute

flowering savage :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on March 14, 2017, 12:23:53 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on March 14, 2017, 11:41:08 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 14, 2017, 10:33:18 AM
NicNat with the beautiful tap to Conigs who takes it on the run and fires a bullet onto the chest of Bellchambers!!

Oh, wait a minute

flowering savage :P
I love it.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 14, 2017, 05:59:29 PM
Don't worry Torp - Belly for Clarke was a Nil all draw!  :-[
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on March 17, 2017, 01:22:19 PM
already have 6 confirmed out for rnd 1 :(
laverde fro half the season  :'(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on March 17, 2017, 10:26:48 PM
Just thought I'd mention GL, that there's a lot of mail recently about Joel Smith making his debut Round 1, given Hibberd is out.

It's great, because I have both players in Worlds  8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on March 17, 2017, 11:28:11 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on March 17, 2017, 10:26:48 PM
Just thought I'd mention GL, that there's a lot of mail recently about Joel Smith making his debut Round 1, given Hibberd is out.

It's great, because I have both players in Worlds  8)
Ahaha ;D

I got Zach Guthrie with Rookie pick 7 though, and he was awesome in the JLT. If he gets upgraded to the senior list... ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on March 18, 2017, 09:09:01 PM
Mzungu will be premo all year but I won't be able to play him since guys like Higgins and Waite aren't going to get injured, leaving no available means for Tendai to get upgraded.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on March 20, 2017, 01:06:06 PM
Idol, TOTW and Rising Star threads will go up before the round starts!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on March 20, 2017, 01:16:49 PM
Quote from: meow meow on March 18, 2017, 09:09:01 PM
Mzungu will be premo all year but I won't be able to play him since guys like Higgins and Waite aren't going to get injured, leaving no available means for Tendai to get upgraded.

#Justice4Tendai
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on March 20, 2017, 05:40:23 PM
http://m.afl.com.au/news/2017-03-20/veteran-dockers-ruckman-sandilands-quashes-retirement-talk

Awwww yeahhhhh.

Told you he isn't going to shrink. Dude could play until he's 40.

Gibbs/Sandi > Rocky/some other nobody
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: PowerBug on March 20, 2017, 08:25:11 PM
http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,108558.msg1839130.html#msg1839130
An hour away from the Champions League Draw beginning :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on March 21, 2017, 10:07:33 AM
Quote from: meow meow on March 20, 2017, 05:40:23 PM
http://m.afl.com.au/news/2017-03-20/veteran-dockers-ruckman-sandilands-quashes-retirement-talk

Awwww yeahhhhh.

Told you he isn't going to shrink. Dude could play until he's 40.

Gibbs/Sandi > Rocky/some other nobody

Sicily isnt a nobody.

besides you gave up Gunston and Boak to get Rocky then Pretty much gave Sloane for Boak + 12.

So Gunston + Sloane >>>>>>> Gibbs + Sandi + 12


Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on March 21, 2017, 10:37:21 AM
Sicily is a nobody in WXV. He wouldn't ever start for any respectable team.

But 12 got me Scully who got me Stevens who got me Higgins.

Plus I got Josh Green in the Rocky trade, and he got me Nathan Wilson who is a gun in the making! Up for trade btw
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on March 21, 2017, 10:40:13 AM
Quote from: meow meow on March 21, 2017, 10:37:21 AM
Nathan Wilson who is a gun in the making! Up for trade btw
First I've heard of it, big if true.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on March 21, 2017, 10:43:49 AM
Quote from: meow meow on March 21, 2017, 10:37:21 AM
Sicily is a nobody in WXV. He wouldn't ever start for any respectable team.

But 12 got me Scully who got me Stevens who got me Higgins.

Plus I got Josh Green in the Rocky trade, and he got me Nathan Wilson who is a gun in the making! Up for trade btw

still Sloane Gunston big big winners.

Sloane is just a younger better Gibbs.

Gunston is a top forward who is only 25.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on March 21, 2017, 11:57:55 AM
McKernan for 12 was worth it.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on March 21, 2017, 02:54:10 PM
Quote from: meow meow on March 20, 2017, 05:40:23 PM
http://m.afl.com.au/news/2017-03-20/veteran-dockers-ruckman-sandilands-quashes-retirement-talk

Awwww yeahhhhh.

Told you he isn't going to shrink. Dude could play until he's 40.

Gibbs/Sandi > Rocky/some other nobody
Same can't be said about Wells unfortunately

Happy I dumped him while he still had a little bit of value
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on March 21, 2017, 08:38:40 PM
Even if Wells never plays again that trade will be a success, since it played a vital role in securing Tim English.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on March 23, 2017, 07:30:09 PM
Naismith #1 ruck.

Compo.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on April 01, 2017, 12:34:40 PM
Been thinking about this for a long time.

I've decided to retire from WXV and Rio. I've simply lost my passion for it.

Thank you to all coaches and peace out all.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on April 01, 2017, 12:38:57 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on April 01, 2017, 12:34:40 PM
Been thinking about this for a long time.

I've decided to retire from WXV and Rio. I've simply lost my passion for it.

Thank you to all coaches and peace out all.
Levi no april's fools jokes in  WXV please :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on April 01, 2017, 12:47:45 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on April 01, 2017, 12:34:40 PM
Been thinking about this for a long time.

I've decided to retire from WXV and Rio. I've simply lost my passion for it.

Thank you to all coaches and peace out all.
:P :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on April 01, 2017, 01:23:26 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on April 01, 2017, 12:34:40 PM
Been thinking about this for a long time.

I've decided to retire from WXV and Rio. I've simply lost my passion for it.

Thank you to all coaches and peace out all.

My vote is for Izander to take over.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on April 01, 2017, 01:33:08 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on April 01, 2017, 12:38:57 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on April 01, 2017, 12:34:40 PM
Been thinking about this for a long time.

I've decided to retire from WXV and Rio. I've simply lost my passion for it.

Thank you to all coaches and peace out all.
Levi no april's fools jokes in  WXV please :P

Almost every April Fools joke gets me EVERY time... except perhaps Dane Swan today :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on April 01, 2017, 04:20:47 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on April 01, 2017, 01:33:08 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on April 01, 2017, 12:38:57 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on April 01, 2017, 12:34:40 PM
Been thinking about this for a long time.

I've decided to retire from WXV and Rio. I've simply lost my passion for it.

Thank you to all coaches and peace out all.
Levi no april's fools jokes in  WXV please :P

Almost every April Fools joke gets me EVERY time... except perhaps Dane Swan today :P

Can confirm this was indeed a joke. Sorry to disrespect WXV like that.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on April 01, 2017, 04:22:10 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on April 01, 2017, 04:20:47 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on April 01, 2017, 01:33:08 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on April 01, 2017, 12:38:57 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on April 01, 2017, 12:34:40 PM
Been thinking about this for a long time.

I've decided to retire from WXV and Rio. I've simply lost my passion for it.

Thank you to all coaches and peace out all.
Levi no april's fools jokes in  WXV please :P

Almost every April Fools joke gets me EVERY time... except perhaps Dane Swan today :P

Can confirm this was indeed a joke. Sorry to disrespect WXV like that.

haha nice try i was onto it early ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on April 01, 2017, 04:23:39 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on April 01, 2017, 04:22:10 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on April 01, 2017, 04:20:47 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on April 01, 2017, 01:33:08 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on April 01, 2017, 12:38:57 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on April 01, 2017, 12:34:40 PM
Been thinking about this for a long time.

I've decided to retire from WXV and Rio. I've simply lost my passion for it.

Thank you to all coaches and peace out all.
Levi no april's fools jokes in  WXV please :P

Almost every April Fools joke gets me EVERY time... except perhaps Dane Swan today :P

Can confirm this was indeed a joke. Sorry to disrespect WXV like that.

haha nice try i was onto it early ;)

Yes you were Daz ;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on April 06, 2017, 04:51:49 PM
Every one of our Freo young guns playing this week


(http://i63.tinypic.com/2ic1k3k.gif)


Balic, Tucker, Grey, Langdon vs Libba Bont Macrae Hunter

Should be fine
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on April 10, 2017, 10:51:03 AM
(http://footyfootyfooty.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Brad-Crouch-pics.jpg)

Crouch 40 Touches 4 marks 10 tackles. looking to show why i traded Buddy and Roughy for him.


Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on April 10, 2017, 11:03:20 AM
Quote from: Holz on April 10, 2017, 10:51:03 AM
(http://footyfootyfooty.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Brad-Crouch-pics.jpg)

Crouch 40 Touches 4 marks 10 tackles. looking to show why i traded Buddy and Roughy for him.

Should be good for 2-3 games before getting injured again
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on April 10, 2017, 11:05:43 AM
Quote from: elephants on April 10, 2017, 11:03:20 AM
Quote from: Holz on April 10, 2017, 10:51:03 AM
(http://footyfootyfooty.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Brad-Crouch-pics.jpg)

Crouch 40 Touches 4 marks 10 tackles. looking to show why i traded Buddy and Roughy for him.

Should be good for 2-3 games before getting injured again

Just wait, besides even without him i took you guys out. Dublin 2-1
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on April 10, 2017, 11:16:30 AM
Quote from: Holz on April 10, 2017, 11:05:43 AM
Quote from: elephants on April 10, 2017, 11:03:20 AM
Quote from: Holz on April 10, 2017, 10:51:03 AM
(http://footyfootyfooty.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Brad-Crouch-pics.jpg)

Crouch 40 Touches 4 marks 10 tackles. looking to show why i traded Buddy and Roughy for him.

Should be good for 2-3 games before getting injured again

Just wait, besides even without him i took you guys out. Dublin 2-1

Oh no, you beat us in round 1.

We don't peak early at NDT, unlike Dublin and his coach who I hear climax early regularly.

Except for finals 2016 where you hardly fired a shot
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on April 10, 2017, 11:25:09 AM
Jack Grimes often hit the stat sheets in the VFL last year.

Except I didn't get Buddy & (indirectly) Armitage out of Jack Grimes :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on April 10, 2017, 11:28:35 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on April 10, 2017, 11:25:09 AM
Jack Grimes often hit the stat sheets in the VFL last year.

Except I didn't get Buddy & (indirectly) Armitage out of Jack Grimes :P

Come on you love Brad Crouch.

trade him out and then turn on him instantly.

My guy is coming back from injury your guy is just a spud.

and just to make you jealous. Dont mind having this guy in the squad.

(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/Media/Images/327656-tlsnewsportrait.jpg)

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on April 10, 2017, 11:31:23 AM
Quote from: Holz on April 10, 2017, 11:28:35 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on April 10, 2017, 11:25:09 AM
Jack Grimes often hit the stat sheets in the VFL last year.

Except I didn't get Buddy & (indirectly) Armitage out of Jack Grimes :P

Come on you love Brad Crouch.

trade him out and then turn on him instantly.

My guy is coming back from injury your guy is just a spud.

and just to make you jealous. Dont mind having this guy in the squad.

(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/Media/Images/327656-tlsnewsportrait.jpg)

Haha true, just stirring the pot :P BTM Crouch for lyfe

Oh Jonesy. He is in career best form atm.

Jack Viney...

#NotMyCaptain
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on April 10, 2017, 11:32:51 AM
Haha, my Jesse Hogan pic is starting directly at Jones for me, and in combination with my description its perfect hahahahaha
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on April 10, 2017, 04:12:15 PM
*nervous laughter*

It's alright, Gawn will be back for finals

Spencer is no fantasy scrub in the meantime
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on April 10, 2017, 04:36:18 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on April 10, 2017, 04:12:15 PM
*nervous laughter*

It's alright, Gawn will be back for finals

Spencer is no fantasy scrub in the meantime

not sure if its better or worse then 2 Dubliners killing each others scores by sharing the load. Im pretty annoyed if goldy didnt roll his ankle i reckon he would be sole ruck and the number 1 ruck in the comp.

Goldy is not a good FF, he isnt top 20 in the comp in that role.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 10, 2017, 04:58:24 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on April 10, 2017, 04:12:15 PM
*nervous laughter*

It's alright, Gawn will be back for finals

Spencer is no fantasy scrub in the meantime

Sucks that you have Spencer

You could have played an OOP ruck! (And had HGA against!)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on April 10, 2017, 05:06:43 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 10, 2017, 04:58:24 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on April 10, 2017, 04:12:15 PM
*nervous laughter*

It's alright, Gawn will be back for finals

Spencer is no fantasy scrub in the meantime

Sucks that you have Spencer

You could have played an OOP ruck! (And had HGA against!)

this is why you just trade in everyone from the same team.

Goldy Preuss Daw the only issue is they are all playing and stuffing up each others scores.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 10, 2017, 05:12:00 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 10, 2017, 05:06:43 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 10, 2017, 04:58:24 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on April 10, 2017, 04:12:15 PM
*nervous laughter*

It's alright, Gawn will be back for finals

Spencer is no fantasy scrub in the meantime

Sucks that you have Spencer

You could have played an OOP ruck! (And had HGA against!)

this is why you just trade in everyone from the same team.

Goldy Preuss Daw the only issue is they are all playing and stuffing up each others scores.

Well we have Tippett and Cameron - but PNL think Naismith is Dean Cox so we couldn't get him from them :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on April 10, 2017, 05:20:16 PM
Bad luck on Gawn Purps :( In better news Grundy just lost his main competition to become All-Worlds ruckman this year...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on April 10, 2017, 05:22:05 PM
Quote from: Toga on April 10, 2017, 05:20:16 PM
Bad luck on Gawn Purps :( In better news Grundy just lost his main competition to become All-Worlds ruckman this year...
Wait, what? What happened to Nank?!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on April 10, 2017, 05:22:34 PM
Quote from: Toga on April 10, 2017, 05:20:16 PM
Bad luck on Gawn Purps :( In better news Grundy just lost his main competition to become All-Worlds ruckman this year...
(http://i64.tinypic.com/fb9nhe.png)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on April 10, 2017, 05:23:20 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 10, 2017, 05:12:00 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 10, 2017, 05:06:43 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 10, 2017, 04:58:24 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on April 10, 2017, 04:12:15 PM
*nervous laughter*

It's alright, Gawn will be back for finals

Spencer is no fantasy scrub in the meantime

Sucks that you have Spencer

You could have played an OOP ruck! (And had HGA against!)

this is why you just trade in everyone from the same team.

Goldy Preuss Daw the only issue is they are all playing and stuffing up each others scores.

Well we have Tippett and Cameron - but PNL think Naismith is Dean Cox so we couldn't get him from them :P

he was going cheap at pick 7 and for some reason most of the comp said it was too much.

#compo.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on April 10, 2017, 05:37:13 PM
Quote from: Toga on April 10, 2017, 05:20:16 PM
Bad luck on Gawn Purps :( In better news Grundy just lost his main competition to become All-Worlds ruckman this year...

... Did you miss my part about Spencer or?

:P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on April 10, 2017, 08:45:47 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 10, 2017, 05:12:00 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 10, 2017, 05:06:43 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 10, 2017, 04:58:24 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on April 10, 2017, 04:12:15 PM
*nervous laughter*

It's alright, Gawn will be back for finals

Spencer is no fantasy scrub in the meantime

Sucks that you have Spencer

You could have played an OOP ruck! (And had HGA against!)

this is why you just trade in everyone from the same team.

Goldy Preuss Daw the only issue is they are all playing and stuffing up each others scores.

Well we have Tippett and Cameron - but PNL think Naismith is Dean Cox so we couldn't get him from them :P
cameron no games
sinclair no games
tippett like crouch cannot stay injury free

Naismith #1 Ruck
enjoy your OOP :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on April 10, 2017, 09:57:18 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on April 10, 2017, 05:22:34 PM
Quote from: Toga on April 10, 2017, 05:20:16 PM
Bad luck on Gawn Purps :( In better news Grundy just lost his main competition to become All-Worlds ruckman this year...
(http://i64.tinypic.com/fb9nhe.png)
I think the reigning ruck of the week is pretty much a lock now.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on April 12, 2017, 11:22:25 AM
The power of Scott Thompson over the past 2 years:

With Scotty IN the team:
Wins: 31
Losses: 5
86.1% Win

With Scotty OUT:
Wins: 5
Losses: 4
55.5% Win



Perhaps explains Rio's slow start? :-[ I'm clutching at straws here. Equal highest points against with Dublin, Mexico, Berlin to come. Uh oh.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on April 12, 2017, 11:24:34 AM
Quote from: Levi434 on April 12, 2017, 11:22:25 AM
The power of Scott Thompson over the past 2 years:

With Scotty IN the team:
Wins: 31
Losses: 5
86.1% Win

With Scotty OUT:
Wins: 5
Losses: 4
55.5% Win



Perhaps explains Rio's slow start? :-[ I'm clutching at straws here. Equal highest points against with Dublin, Mexico, Berlin to come. Uh oh.

might rest Dusty for a huge game against you for a extra 15 or so points.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on April 12, 2017, 11:28:21 AM
Quote from: Holz on April 12, 2017, 11:24:34 AM
Quote from: Levi434 on April 12, 2017, 11:22:25 AM
The power of Scott Thompson over the past 2 years:

With Scotty IN the team:
Wins: 31
Losses: 5
86.1% Win

With Scotty OUT:
Wins: 5
Losses: 4
55.5% Win



Perhaps explains Rio's slow start? :-[ I'm clutching at straws here. Equal highest points against with Dublin, Mexico, Berlin to come. Uh oh.

might rest Dusty for a huge game against you for a extra 15 or so points.

Anyone know when Ben Jacobs is back?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on April 17, 2017, 10:41:05 PM
So apparently Steven May has done a hamstring.

;D

:'(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on April 18, 2017, 01:39:54 PM
You know what just happened?

I mentioned my hobby and the challenges of managing you lot, just in passing, in an interview I had for a graduate tax & accounting position.

In the next round of interviews, they actually explicitly brought it up and made me talk about it.

Now, they've offered me the position!

I feel like I should somehow thank Holz for this...  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: AaronKirk on April 18, 2017, 01:46:40 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on April 18, 2017, 01:39:54 PM
You know what just happened?

I mentioned my hobby and the challenges of managing you lot, just in passing, in an interview I had for a graduate tax & accounting position.

In the next round of interviews, they actually explicitly brought it up and made me talk about it.

Now, they've offered me the position!

I feel like I should somehow thank Holz for this...  :P

That is good man. Shows good management skills  ;)

Join the accounting club.

There is plenty of work around. Maybe take a bit off me. Hence why I am not around as much anymore.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on April 18, 2017, 01:51:32 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on April 18, 2017, 01:39:54 PM
You know what just happened?

I mentioned my hobby and the challenges of managing you lot, just in passing, in an interview I had for a graduate tax & accounting position.

In the next round of interviews, they actually explicitly brought it up and made me talk about it.

Now, they've offered me the position!

I feel like I should somehow thank Holz for this...  :P

Congrats Purp,

I assume your thanking me for bringing soo much joy to the comp and great ideas, so your able to deal with some of the more difficult members of worlds.

and to that i say "Your Welcome"


Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on April 18, 2017, 02:17:05 PM
Yes haha, thanks Holz.

And thanks AK! Yes, I think my time management skills will be put to test  :-\
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on April 18, 2017, 02:19:38 PM
Well done Purps! But if it gets too time consuming you know you're going to have to quit your job, not WXV management, right? RIGHT?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on April 18, 2017, 02:24:09 PM
Quote from: meow meow on April 18, 2017, 02:19:38 PM
Well done Purps! But if it gets too time consuming you know you're going to have to quit your job, not WXV management, right? RIGHT?

Lol, we're safe for 2017 at least! It kicks into gear about February next year.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on April 18, 2017, 02:40:09 PM
congrats purps well done mate :D

@ meow
you crack me up mate love that post

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on April 18, 2017, 03:06:50 PM
Is there a third brother to take over? :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on April 18, 2017, 03:14:50 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on April 18, 2017, 03:06:50 PM
Is there a third brother to take over? :P

Well... yes, but... *looks away*... he isn't a fan of football  :-[
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on April 18, 2017, 04:47:37 PM
Congrats Purps that's awesome!

You can't be leaving us just yet  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on April 18, 2017, 05:19:41 PM
Great work Purps!



But


Please don't ever leave
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 18, 2017, 06:53:40 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on April 18, 2017, 05:19:41 PM
Great work Purps!



But


Please don't ever leave

+1

#NoPurpsNoOsNoWorlds
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: AaronKirk on April 18, 2017, 07:59:24 PM
Tippett and Heeney may be back this week.

Would be nice to get close to our best team on the field.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on April 19, 2017, 06:55:13 PM
Congrats Purpy! That will be a great experience for you 8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on April 19, 2017, 06:56:34 PM
Also an appropriate place to say...

F*CK! Was looking forwards to having Allen Christensen back this week after a great comeback in the 2's but nope he's out for the season ::)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on April 19, 2017, 07:02:56 PM
Quote from: Toga on April 19, 2017, 06:56:34 PM
Also an appropriate place to say...

F*CK! Was looking forwards to having Allen Christensen back this week after a great comeback in the 2's but nope he's out for the season ::)

Geez super unlucky.

Was almost a dubliner. Not much worse then having weits who carlton are ruining by playing the most talented young chb in the comp up front.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on April 19, 2017, 08:37:03 PM
interesting purps

i manage 2 or 3 rocket league teams you think thats worth putting in a resume?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on April 19, 2017, 08:38:18 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on April 19, 2017, 08:37:03 PM
interesting purps

i manage 2 or 3 rocket league teams you think thats worth putting in a resume?

As a hobby/interest, definitely can't hurt
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Koop on April 19, 2017, 09:01:36 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on April 19, 2017, 08:37:03 PM
interesting purps

i manage 2 or 3 rocket league teams you think thats worth putting in a resume?

So joining in on banter with 3 13 year olds in a Discord server & having a fancy title despite having no commercial or personal bargaining standing or power regarding the players or the team is now resume-worthy? Nah. 

Congratulations Purp! Probably showed you have good organisational skills & stick-ability. Hope it goes really well for you!

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on April 19, 2017, 09:15:11 PM
koop thinking i read his comments still LUL
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on April 20, 2017, 12:07:11 AM
Congrats Purp! Accountants are slowly taking over WXVs >:D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on April 20, 2017, 11:30:37 PM
To be fair, it's good to list hobbies, and rocket league also shows KB can interact with people online.

I have put being Admin on FanFooty on my resume as extra-cirricular/hobby, and think it might have helped land my job cause they have a few big footy fans in my branch :P.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on April 20, 2017, 11:49:55 PM
Brad Crouch in

Real Goldy in

Watch out team of the week, the best ruck in the comp is back.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jukes on April 21, 2017, 12:06:03 AM
Cheers for the resume tips lads, AXVIII will look good on my resume :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 24, 2017, 07:24:48 PM
Mitch Wallis back this week via VFL is great news. Darcy Cameron also extended contract with Swans and hasn't played a game yet :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on May 05, 2017, 03:56:34 PM
I mentioned it at the time of making the fixture, but I think it was hard to know what I was talking about at  the time :P

Just to reiterate at what I've decided about WXV Round 9 (where Port & GCS have the bye) so it doesn't come as a surprise:

I will use the Round 11 Port/GCS scores for WXV Round 9, keeping WXV Round 10 exclusively to AFL Round 10.

WXV Round 11 will comprise of scores from AFL Round 11 (minus Port & Gold Coast) + AFL Round 12 scores from Brisbane, Carlton, Melbourne, St Kilda, Sydney, Western Bulldogs, Port Adeliade + Gold Coast.

The AAP Alliance & EurAsia game will comprise of AFL Round 12 scores from Adeliade, Collingwood, Essendon, Fremantle, GWS + Hawthorn + AFL Round 13   scores.

If you have an alternative that I like better, feel free to suggest it, but I'm fairly wedded to the above scenario.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on May 05, 2017, 04:03:51 PM
So all that means is that we won't know WXV Round 9 results until after AFL Round 11?

It's a messy situation so there's no easy fix, but that seems reasonable to me.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on May 05, 2017, 04:09:44 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on May 05, 2017, 03:56:34 PM
I mentioned it at the time of making the fixture, but I think it was hard to know what I was talking about at  the time :P

Just to reiterate at what I've decided about WXV Round 9 (where Port & GCS have the bye) so it doesn't come as a surprise:

I will use the Round 11 Port/GCS scores for WXV Round 9, keeping WXV Round 10 exclusively to AFL Round 10.

WXV Round 11 will comprise of scores from AFL Round 11 (minus Port & Gold Coast) + AFL Round 12 scores from Brisbane, Carlton, Melbourne, St Kilda, Sydney, Western Bulldogs, Port Adeliade + Gold Coast.

The AAP Alliance & EurAsia game will comprise of AFL Round 12 scores from Adeliade, Collingwood, Essendon, Fremantle, GWS + Hawthorn + AFL Round 13   scores.

If you have an alternative that I like better, feel free to suggest it, but I'm fairly wedded to the above scenario.

Test the depth, i say that wirh only 1 guy in my 15 :p
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on May 05, 2017, 04:15:03 PM
Quote from: Toga on May 05, 2017, 04:03:51 PM
So all that means is that we won't know WXV Round 9 results until after AFL Round 11?

It's a messy situation so there's no easy fix, but that seems reasonable to me.

Yep.

Also, I'm thinking that if you name Port/Gcs players and they DON'T play, then I'll move players (from the other 16 teams that have already played) in the 18 up, and add players from your list preferences onto your emergencies.

For example,

Berlin

.
.
F: Lance Franklin, Charlie Dixon, Mark LeCras, Jay Kennedy-Harris
U: Jobe Watson, Jack Trengove
E: Shaun Burgoyne, Michael Walters, Joel Smith

And if Dixon doesn't play, LeCras will move to F2, JKH will move to F3, Walters will move to F4, Smith will move to E2, and according to my list preferences, the next player on my list that has played is Dylan Grimes, so he will move to E3.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on May 05, 2017, 04:23:37 PM
Sounds good Purps.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on May 05, 2017, 04:49:17 PM
Yeah that's fine I think Purps. Best way to deal with a difficult situation and shouldn't disadvantage any one team more than it affects others.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on May 07, 2017, 11:06:14 PM
Can we make a play to call the New Delhi-Moscow rivalry the Coniglio-Gray Cup from now on?

I feel the controversy of our trade last offseason calls for it.  :P Or maybe the Vlastuin Cup?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on May 07, 2017, 11:11:26 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on May 07, 2017, 11:06:14 PM
Can we make a play to call the New Delhi-Moscow rivalry the Coniglio-Gray Cup from now on?

I feel the controversy of our trade last offseason calls for it.  :P Or maybe the Vlastuin Cup?

Haha. I'm reluctant to add any more cups, but if you feel the same way when we go make new rivals or discuss new rule changes at around September, remind me and we'll see.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on May 08, 2017, 11:17:55 PM
Sorry for not getting the end of round stuff up today guys, I haven't been feeling well for the past 48 hours. I'll endeavour to get it all done tomorrow.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on May 09, 2017, 03:05:27 PM
Far out Hill is 2 weeks into his 4-5 weeks off

Birchall comes back from injury and then goes out for another 6 weeks

Treloar is in doubt this week.


injuries are coming to bite, seems to be whenever i pick up young, durable players they become injured. Trade out a injury prone Murphy and he magically heels.

The craziest is Goldy the most durable guy in the comp basically has had 2 ankle problems. He is finally starting to play like Goldy, last week was the first time he looked 90%+

Greenwood, Menzle doing great but playing for the crows the toughest team to crack into, hopefully North destroying them will fix that.

Im still annoyed that Carlton are ruining me with Jacob Weitering who would have been Heath Shaw is not for the cap.

speaking of the Cap I should have Buddy Roughy not Brad Crouch.


If not for that I would have scored an additional 244

Rant over

on small good news, thank you Oscar for your 91 80 it is greatly needed.






Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on May 15, 2017, 03:47:22 AM
Nathan Buckley is a better coach than meow meow Round 1 edition

When you've got just 2 defenders named you should probably attack and cop one OOP, correct? Oh no, not this pathetic excuse of a coach. Named 2 non-playing defenders and copped a double OOP.

Captain choice Gibbs with a respectable 104 vs the better Mitchell with 118. Not horrific but still incorrect. 0/1 here.

XV time...

B: Bob 72, Andrews 63, Wilson DNP,  Dempster DNP
M: Gibbs  208, Mitchell 118, Griff 52, Masten 83
R: Vardy 51
F: Steele 113, Langford 49, McLean 59, Waite 104
I: Higgo 111, Sandi 107

E: SPS 59, Boyd 39, Petrie 49

R: Lester 63

1260


B: Bob 72, Andrews 63, SPS 59 (30)
M: Mitchell 236, Gibbs 104, Blakely 88, Masten 83
R: Sandi 107
F: Steele 113, Higgins 111, Waite 104, ANB 90, WHE 90
I:  Lester 63, McLean 59

1413

11 out of 15 isn't tooooo bad

Arrogantly flaunting the ruck depth but playing a hack who was never worthy of being a starter in the process even though he was solo ruck. Got the win away from NZ against a dismal Dillos outfit but it should have been a percentage booster. WHE is meant to be my boy. Can't be too annoyed with not selecting ANB, he didn't show signs of being good. Lester should have gotten a game (shower though), and Blakely is supposed to be best XV so why not name him, fool? Langford played plenty of midfield in the NAB and Griffen is supposed to be good. The rucks though, and the OOP's means the coach gets a 2 out of 10 in the review.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on May 15, 2017, 07:58:30 PM
FYI Purps for list purposes,  Luke Surman has walked away from Hawthorn and quit AFL
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on May 15, 2017, 11:17:59 PM
http://www.gwsgiants.com.au/news/2017-05-15/surgery-to-sideline-coniglio

.....  :-X
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on May 16, 2017, 03:24:36 PM
Dublin may be back.

there is a serious chance team sheets could read.

Out: Occonor, Plowman
In: Treloar, Hill

Thats a extra 150 points from last week.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on May 16, 2017, 03:28:44 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 16, 2017, 03:24:36 PM
Dublin may be back.

there is a serious chance team sheets could read.

Out: Occonor, Plowman
In: Treloar, Hill

Thats a extra 150 points from last week.
Yeah, if Treloar wasn't pie.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on May 16, 2017, 03:35:42 PM
Quote from: GoLions on May 16, 2017, 03:28:44 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 16, 2017, 03:24:36 PM
Dublin may be back.

there is a serious chance team sheets could read.

Out: Occonor, Plowman
In: Treloar, Hill

Thats a extra 150 points from last week.
Yeah, if Treloar wasn't pie.

He is averaging 96 which is shocking for him. if he gets back into form then its like 165 points extra.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on May 16, 2017, 03:58:11 PM
been waiting a long time for my first gun pick up from obscurity like Nic Newman, Josh Jenkins or Marc Blicavs

this could be the guy.

(http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/3d12a8bbf36000c390d63014da7b472b?width=1024)
Elevated with rumours he could be named

This has been his Disposal Tackles and Goal counts for the season

23 8 1
27 9 0
19 8 2
25 8 0
27 9 2

lazy 24.2 touches, 8.4 tackles and 1 goal.

i dont think i have seen a guy have a min 8 tackles over 5 games.


Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: iZander on May 16, 2017, 06:42:57 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 16, 2017, 03:58:11 PM
i dont think i have seen a guy have a min 8 tackles over 5 games.

Havnt been watching sloaney then ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on May 16, 2017, 08:17:30 PM
Rhys Palmer averaged 40 touches and 2 goals in a second tier comp.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on May 17, 2017, 11:27:24 AM
Quote from: meow meow on May 16, 2017, 08:17:30 PM
Rhys Palmer averaged 40 touches and 2 goals in a second tier comp.

what year and in what comp?

NEAFL is a joke.

SANFL VFL and WAFL are a level up.

Palmer also did average 87 in his first year from 20 games. Ill take that for one year and then 70 for the next 5-6 years.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on May 17, 2017, 11:32:11 AM
Quote from: iZander on May 16, 2017, 06:42:57 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 16, 2017, 03:58:11 PM
i dont think i have seen a guy have a min 8 tackles over 5 games.

Havnt been watching sloaney then ;)

Sloane <3

he hasnt done it though his best ever is 6 13 13 8 8 , oblivious this is the AFL not a tier 2 comp.

I did find someone who did it thought. 2014 Libba was a beast

10 8 14 12 10 14 10

as was 2014 Rocky

8 11 11 13 10 5 12 10 10 10
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: iZander on May 17, 2017, 12:14:39 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 17, 2017, 11:32:11 AM
Quote from: iZander on May 16, 2017, 06:42:57 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 16, 2017, 03:58:11 PM
i dont think i have seen a guy have a min 8 tackles over 5 games.

Havnt been watching sloaney then ;)

Sloane <3

he hasnt done it though his best ever is 6 13 13 8 8 , oblivious this is the AFL not a tier 2 comp.

I did find someone who did it thought. 2014 Libba was a beast

10 8 14 12 10 14 10

as was 2014 Rocky

8 11 11 13 10 5 12 10 10 10
He did 15,9,9,13,8 this year! Also I can't be bothered checking stats but a sneaking suspicion barratcould have done it :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on May 17, 2017, 12:16:01 PM
Quote from: iZander on May 17, 2017, 12:14:39 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 17, 2017, 11:32:11 AM
Quote from: iZander on May 16, 2017, 06:42:57 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 16, 2017, 03:58:11 PM
i dont think i have seen a guy have a min 8 tackles over 5 games.

Havnt been watching sloaney then ;)

Sloane <3

he hasnt done it though his best ever is 6 13 13 8 8 , oblivious this is the AFL not a tier 2 comp.

I did find someone who did it thought. 2014 Libba was a beast

10 8 14 12 10 14 10

as was 2014 Rocky

8 11 11 13 10 5 12 10 10 10
He did 15,9,9,13,8 this year! Also I can't be bothered checking stats but a sneaking suspicion barratcould have done it :P

hmm i didnt even look this year.

good pick up.

Sloane a beast just please stop tagigng him.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on May 21, 2017, 12:11:57 PM
Well another 8+ tackle game from greenwood.

His 15 touches a little low.

But he did get 3 goals so thats above average
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on May 22, 2017, 12:30:18 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 21, 2017, 12:11:57 PM
Well another 8+ tackle game from greenwood.

His 15 touches a little low.

But he did get 3 goals so thats above average

Won't play Brissie every week though
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on May 22, 2017, 12:57:18 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 22, 2017, 12:30:18 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 21, 2017, 12:11:57 PM
Well another 8+ tackle game from greenwood.

His 15 touches a little low.

But he did get 3 goals so thats above average

Won't play Brissie every week though

correct so he has more of a chance to lift that tackle count.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on May 22, 2017, 01:17:35 PM
Bradley 58 vs Stephen 57

#BTS

:P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on May 22, 2017, 06:36:05 PM
Bryce 109
Aaron 102

Tom 0
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on May 24, 2017, 12:14:06 PM
Hey all, so in attempt to kind of bring a more real time alternative for members of the forum, we've gone ahead and set up a FanFooty Forum Discord server. It'll serve as a newer and more modern version of the old FF chat. All the details you need to know are below:

Quote from: Nige on May 24, 2017, 10:26:25 AM
So, the Discord server is basically up and running. I still have to add a few things here and there but it's set up enough to be functional imo.

To download Discord, you can go here: https://discordapp.com/

The above link will allow you to either access Discord online or allow you to download the program (that's what I use). As I mentioned before, you can also get the app on your phone.

If you don't already have Discord, you'll have to create an account. It's free, quick and easy to do. It's probably best people use their FF name, but if you already use Discord under a different name or want to sign up under a different name, that's fine - we can always change your name once you get on.



The link to the server is: https://discord.gg/95UJz7f



Once you get on, you should be able to start chatting straight away in the text channels.

For anyone who wants to use the voice channels (I doubt this will be popular or interest many, but the option is there), I advise you set up push-to-talk (PTT). Basically, in the settings you can set up a key as your 'PTT' button to speak on mic if you want, this just blocks out background noise, typing sounds and other noises you might make while on mic. This obviously requires you to have a mic to speak, but you can still also sit in voice channels and simply listen to anyone conversing.

There's an @ feature to tag members. Generally, a member will get a notification if they've been tagged. Please don't abuse this feature or use it to annoy anyone. One thing I suggest is tagging an admin or mod when you get on so we know who has arrived for the first time and can help you with any basics like a name change or giving a role.

Another thing that people might find helpful is that you can still be on Discord but afk (away from keyboard). There are 3 other settings apart from online that you can mark yourself as to indicate your status. Idle, Do Not Disturb or Invisible. Might be good for those that still wanna be on and have access to Discord, but aren't around to actively chat, or are at work, school or whatever.

I'll add a bunch of rules and stuff over the course of the day but common sense and common courtesy apply. Anything that will get you reported, suspended or banned here on the forum will go for the Discord.

I plan to keep the same roles for the forum. So those who are site-wide mods here will get mod powers and those with Discord experience will also get mod powers to help assist those who are new.

If there are any other questions, let me know. KB and (I assume) a couple of others around here probably have used Discord before so I'll get them to help out with that stuff if need be.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on May 26, 2017, 07:47:16 PM
Tom Downie just retired.  :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: upthemaidens on May 27, 2017, 11:32:41 AM
Does anyone know how many games have been decided just by the rest bonus?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: iZander on May 27, 2017, 11:37:41 AM
Quote from: upthemaidens on May 27, 2017, 11:32:41 AM
Does anyone know how many games have been decided just by the rest bonus?
Very few, unless you count the games someone rests a player and it costs them the match :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on May 27, 2017, 12:28:16 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on May 27, 2017, 11:32:41 AM
Does anyone know how many games have been decided just by the rest bonus?

None to my recollection. I reckon your match against Beijing last year was the closest that a resting bonus determined a match outcome
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on June 03, 2017, 07:38:35 PM
Anyone just see that Dublin ad on Foxfooty?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 03, 2017, 08:33:11 PM
Quote from: GoLions on June 03, 2017, 07:38:35 PM
Anyone just see that Dublin ad on Foxfooty?

They've been playing it for a couple of weeks now

Thursday night is Dublin night!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 07, 2017, 12:23:27 PM
Birchall back in after the byes.

fingers crossed ill be able to name a full squad for the first time in a long time.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on June 07, 2017, 07:53:10 PM
Sandi back in after the byes.

I've never been able to name a full squad and never will be able to.

Got duds like McVeigh and Griffen who are always injured, and on the rare occasions when they're not injured they're just shower.

They cost me durable A graders Shuey and Zorko you know?

Compo
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 07, 2017, 08:49:05 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 07, 2017, 12:23:27 PM
Birchall back in after the byes.

fingers crossed ill be able to name a full squad for the first time in a long time.

I reckon Birch's best SC days are well behind him now

Can't see him doing any better than 80. Still good for WXV, but not what he used to produce
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on June 17, 2017, 08:48:24 PM
I'll leave this here.

(https://image.prntscr.com/image/NltjascEQJC78ps1zI-wPw.png)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on June 18, 2017, 12:37:16 AM
All my players are having good scores this round. Can I trust Lester to back up his 129? Absolutely not! Vardy is the only one I've got full faith in.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 18, 2017, 01:36:24 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 17, 2017, 08:48:24 PM
I'll leave this here.

(https://image.prntscr.com/image/NltjascEQJC78ps1zI-wPw.png)
The absolute madman.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on June 18, 2017, 09:18:42 PM
Jack Steele, Chris Masten and Brayden Fiorini can't get a game.
Griffen, Wells, B Murphy, Clay, McVeigh and Silvagni are injured.

They have Jeff.

We have Waite.

If Cairo can't beat us they are an absolute disgrace.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 18, 2017, 09:39:25 PM
Quote from: meow meow on June 18, 2017, 09:18:42 PM
Jack Steele, Chris Masten and Brayden Fiorini can't get a game.
Griffen, Wells, B Murphy, Clay, McVeigh and Silvagni are injured.

They have Jeff.

We have Waite.

If Cairo can't beat us they are an absolute disgrace.
Look, I definitely agree, but you still have Bryce Gibbs and Nathan Wilson, it should still be a contest.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: iZander on June 18, 2017, 10:02:54 PM
Quote from: Nige on June 18, 2017, 09:39:25 PM
Quote from: meow meow on June 18, 2017, 09:18:42 PM
Jack Steele, Chris Masten and Brayden Fiorini can't get a game.
Griffen, Wells, B Murphy, Clay, McVeigh and Silvagni are injured.

They have Jeff.

We have Waite.

If Cairo can't beat us they are an absolute disgrace.
Look, I definitely agree, but you still have Bryce Gibbs and Nathan Wilson, it should still be a contest.
They have Nathan Vardy as well, you guys have pretty much already lost
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on June 27, 2017, 02:27:26 PM
How will the ladder shape up?
A comprehensive guide to how the final WXV ladder may look.

None of these are my predictions, but instead purely stats based. I simulated the final 5 rounds of the 2017 WXV Season and found some interesting results.



What would happen if: The team higher on the ladder at Round 12 won their games?
The number in the bracket is where the team is currently ranked(after WXV Round 12).

PositionNameWinsLosses
1New Delhi Tigers(1)152
2Dublin Destroyers(3)134
3New York Revolution(2)134
4Rio de Janeiro Jaguars(5)134
5Seoul Magpies(4)125
6Pacific Islanders(7)107
7Mexico City Suns(8 )107
8Cairo Sands(6)98
9Christchurch Saints(10)98
10PNL Reindeers(11)98
11Berlin Brewers(9)89
12Toronto Wolves(12)710
13Moscow Spetsnaz(13)611
14Beijing Thunder(14)611
15Cape Town Cobras(15)512
16London Royals(16)512
17Tokyo Samurai(17)215
18Buenos Aires Armadillos(18)116
Notes:
- With this result we see 3 teams finish equal 2nd. Bringing percentage into it Dublin(107.82) would move to 2nd and push New York(103.18) to 3rd. Rio(102.89) could see themselves move up if they have a few big wins.
- Pacific(106.84) would hold 6th comfortably over Mexico(101.92).
- Cairo(102.36) would hold onto 8th due to superior percentage over Christchurch(97.96) and PNL(97.77)



What would happen if: The team averaging the most points won?
The number is what ranking the team is in points per game(after WXV Round 12).

PositionNameWinsLosses
1New Delhi Tigers(1)152
2Dublin Destroyers(2)134
3Seoul Magpies(3)134
4Rio de Janeiro Jaguars(5)125
5Pacific Islanders(4)116
6New York Revolution(10)116
7Cairo Sands(7)107
8Mexico City Suns(8 )107
9Toronto Wolves(11)98
10Berlin Brewers(9)89
11Christchurch Saints(12)89
12PNL Reindeers(13)710
13Beijing Thunder(6)710
14Moscow Spetsnaz(14)611
15Cape Town Cobras(15)512
16London Royals(17)413
17Tokyo Samurai(16)314
18Buenos Aires Armadillos(18)116

Notes:
- Dublin(107.82) would be just ahead of Seoul(106.55) due to percentage. Which could be a deciding factor in the Qualifying Final they'd play.
- Pacific(106.84) move above New York(103.18).
- Cairo(102.36) hold on for 7th over Mexico(101.92).


What "COULD" happen? #WorstCase

TeamHighest FinishLowest FinishPredicted Finish
New Delhi Tigers191
Dublin Destroyers1122
Seoul Magpies1123
Rio de Janeiro Jaguars1124
New York Revolution1115
Pacific Islanders1146
Cairo Sands1127
Mexico City Suns1148
Christchurch Saints5179
Berlin Brewers51710
Toronto Wolves51811
PNL Reindeers51712
Beijing Thunder81813
Moscow Spetsnaz71814
Cape Town Cobras81815
London Royals101816
Tokyo Samurai111817
Buenos Aires Armadillos121818

Notes:
- No team has clinched a finals berth yet! Even the mighty NDT could somehow fall out of the 8!
- 15 teams are still theoretically in contention for the 8! Some more likely than others.
- London, Tokyo and Buenos have been eliminated but could each move up 6 spots if they have strong finishes to the year.



If you would like to complete your own predictions simply put a 1 next to each team you think is going to win and I can simulate a ladder for you. Simply change the "0" to a "1"

Round 13, AFL Round 15
Rio de Janeiro Jaguars0Cape Town Cobras0
Pacific Islanders0Buenos Aires Armadillos0
Mexico City Suns0Christchurch Saints0
New York Revolution0Toronto Wolves0
PNL Reindeers0Moscow Spetsnaz0
Dublin Destroyers0Berlin Brewers0
Tokyo Samurai0London Royals0
Beijing Thunder0Seoul Magpies0
Cairo Sands0New Delhi Tigers0
Round 14, AFL Round 16
Home TeamScoreAway TeamScore
Cape Town Cobras0New Delhi Tigers0
Seoul Magpies0Cairo Sands0
London Royals0Beijing Thunder0
Berlin Brewers0Tokyo Samurai0
Moscow Spetsnaz0Dublin Destroyers0
PNL Reindeers0Toronto Wolves0
Christchurch Saints0New York Revolution0
Mexico City Suns0Buenos Aires Armadillos0
Pacific Islanders0Rio de Janeiro Jaguars0
Round 15, AFL Round 17
Home TeamScoreAway TeamScore
Toronto Wolves0Cape Town Cobras0
Christchurch Saints0Moscow Spetsnaz0
Buenos Aires Armadillos0Berlin Brewers0
Rio de Janeiro Jaguars0London Royals0
Seoul Magpies0Pacific Islanders0
New Delhi Tigers0Mexico City Suns0
New York Revolution0Cairo Sands0
Beijing Thunder0PNL Reindeers0
Tokyo Samurai0Dublin Destroyers0
Round 16, AFL Round 18
Home TeamScoreAway TeamScore
Cape Town Cobras0Christchurch Saints0
Buenos Aires Armadillos0Toronto Wolves0
Moscow Spetsnaz0Rio de Janeiro Jaguars0
Berlin Brewers0Pacific Islanders0
London Royals0Mexico City Suns0
New York Revolution0Seoul Magpies0
New Delhi Tigers0PNL Reindeers0
Cairo Sands0Dublin Destroyers0
Tokyo Samurai0Beijing Thunder0
Round 17, AFL Round 19
Home TeamScoreAway TeamScore
Tokyo Samurai0Cape Town Cobras0
Dublin Destroyers0Beijing Thunder0
PNL Reindeers0Cairo Sands0
New Delhi Tigers0New York Revolution0
Mexico City Suns0Seoul Magpies0
Pacific Islanders0London Royals0
Berlin Brewers0Rio de Janeiro Jaguars0
Buenos Aires Armadillos0Moscow Spetsnaz0
Christchurch Saints0Toronto Wolves0
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on June 27, 2017, 03:40:16 PM
(https://media.tenor.com/images/a7297988cd2c2afd75026454a9dad477/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on June 27, 2017, 06:57:16 PM
By request.



What would happen if: The team averaging the most over the last 5 rounds won?
The number in the bracket is where the team is ranked in total points over the last 5 rounds(WXV Round 7 thru 12).

PositionNameWinsLosses
1New Delhi Tigers(3)152
2Dublin Destroyers(2)134
3Seoul Magpies(1)134
4Rio de Janeiro Jaguars(5)134
5Pacific Islanders(7)107
6New York Revolution(9)107
7Cairo Sands(8 )107
8Mexico City Suns(11)107
9Toronto Wolves(6)107
10Berlin Brewers(10)89
11Moscow Spetsnaz(12)89
12Christchurch Saints(14)710
13Beijing Thunder(4)710
14PNL Reindeers(13)611
15Cape Town Cobras(15)512
16London Royals(17)413
17Tokyo Samurai(16)314
18Buenos Aires Armadillos(18)116

Notes:
- Dublin(107.82) would be just ahead of Seoul(106.55) due to percentage and both ahead of Rio(102.89).
- Massive log jam from 5th to 9th.
- Pacific(106.84) have the best percentage of those 5 teams so they go to 5th.
- New York(103.18) the next best. Tough to see them going ahead of Seoul's percentage but they certainly could fall.
- Cairo(102.36) have a very tough finish to the year and could see their percentage hurt. 3 out of 5 wins guarantees a finals berth I recon.
- Mexico(101.92) would fancy their chances to get into the 8 and will be a danger game for whoever plays them in finals.
- Toronto(99.38) whilst don't have the percentage, have probably the easiest run home of all these teams and would like to think their percentage would go up.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on June 27, 2017, 07:41:20 PM
Destined to finish 9th or 10th it seems :-/ very interesting insights Levi
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on June 29, 2017, 10:51:07 PM
Eagles dogging the boys by not playing Partington?

Or just Moscow?

;)  :'(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on June 29, 2017, 11:10:11 PM
@Purple 77

(https://i.gyazo.com/191ae4e5ca38884abd3e34b0746e5f3e.png)

Watch Guthrie knock out an 80+

Guthrie > Smith confirmed
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on June 30, 2017, 08:37:10 AM
Quote from: GoLions on June 29, 2017, 11:10:11 PM
@Purple 77

(https://i.gyazo.com/191ae4e5ca38884abd3e34b0746e5f3e.png)

Watch Guthrie knock out an 80+

Guthrie > Smith confirmed

Impressive! It only took him 15 weeks to get a debut this year!

Joel Smith is returning to the Vfl this week. Just see how long it takes for him to get back in the form team of the comp ;) (except for Sydney)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on June 30, 2017, 12:20:18 PM
With absolutely zero research, and done in about 2 minutes, i'll go with...

Round 13, AFL Round 15         
Rio de Janeiro Jaguars   1   Cape Town Cobras   0
Pacific Islanders   1   Buenos Aires Armadillos   0
Mexico City Suns   1   Christchurch Saints   0
New York Revolution   0   Toronto Wolves   1
PNL Reindeers   1   Moscow Spetsnaz   0
Dublin Destroyers   1   Berlin Brewers   0
Tokyo Samurai   0   London Royals   1
Beijing Thunder   0   Seoul Magpies   1
Cairo Sands   0   New Delhi Tigers   1

Round 14, AFL Round 16         
Home Team   Score   Away Team   Score
Cape Town Cobras   0   New Delhi Tigers   1
Seoul Magpies   1   Cairo Sands   0
London Royals   0   Beijing Thunder   1
Berlin Brewers   1   Tokyo Samurai   0
Moscow Spetsnaz   0   Dublin Destroyers   1
PNL Reindeers   0   Toronto Wolves   1
Christchurch Saints   1   New York Revolution   0
Mexico City Suns   1   Buenos Aires Armadillos   0
Pacific Islanders   1   Rio de Janeiro Jaguars   0

Round 15, AFL Round 17         
Home Team   Score   Away Team   Score
Toronto Wolves   1   Cape Town Cobras   0
Christchurch Saints   1   Moscow Spetsnaz   0
Buenos Aires Armadillos   0   Berlin Brewers   1
Rio de Janeiro Jaguars   1   London Royals   0
Seoul Magpies   0   Pacific Islanders   1
New Delhi Tigers   1   Mexico City Suns   0
New York Revolution   1   Cairo Sands   0
Beijing Thunder   1   PNL Reindeers   0
Tokyo Samurai   0   Dublin Destroyers   1

Round 16, AFL Round 18         
Home Team   Score   Away Team   Score
Cape Town Cobras   0   Christchurch Saints   1
Buenos Aires Armadillos   0   Toronto Wolves   1
Moscow Spetsnaz   0   Rio de Janeiro Jaguars   1
Berlin Brewers   0   Pacific Islanders   1
London Royals   0   Mexico City Suns   1
New York Revolution   0   Seoul Magpies   1
New Delhi Tigers   1   PNL Reindeers   0
Cairo Sands   0   Dublin Destroyers   1
Tokyo Samurai   0   Beijing Thunder   1

Round 17, AFL Round 19         
Home Team   Score   Away Team   Score
Tokyo Samurai   0   Cape Town Cobras   1
Dublin Destroyers   0   Beijing Thunder   1
PNL Reindeers   0   Cairo Sands   1
New Delhi Tigers   1   New York Revolution   0
Mexico City Suns   0   Seoul Magpies   1
Pacific Islanders   1   London Royals   0
Berlin Brewers   0   Rio de Janeiro Jaguars   1
Buenos Aires Armadillos   0   Moscow Spetsnaz   1
Christchurch Saints   1   Toronto Wolves   0
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 30, 2017, 01:12:00 PM
 :'(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 11, 2017, 10:40:46 PM
RIP Luke Hodge.

RIP Sam Mitchell? I think so. Could go on but I don't think he wants to.

McVeigh, Montagna, Bob and Waite should all play on, right?

Sandi, Griff and Wells contracted for 2018.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 11, 2017, 11:33:20 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 11, 2017, 10:40:46 PM
RIP Luke Hodge.

RIP Sam Mitchell? I think so. Could go on but I don't think he wants to.

McVeigh, Montagna, Bob and Waite should all play on, right?

Sandi, Griff and Wells contracted for 2018.

Self inflected. I think you have a sickness lol, You get some sort of pleasure from this :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 12, 2017, 11:32:56 PM
I was just having a good look at the remaining 3 rounds of the fixture and there's so much possibilities!

If a few results go their way, Beijing can still make the 8 (I really hope that happens)

NDT has 1st stitched up, and Seoul should be able to hang onto 2nd but could drop out of the 4 if things went horribly wrong and they lose every game from here (Pacific, New York and Mexico so not easy, but should be able to win)

If we can beat Cairo this week then that should be enough for us to finish in the 4, although other results could change that

Berlin vs Pacific next week will have a big say on the overall ladder come seasons end

Rio without Cripps and possibly Ablett could open the door for team including Jing so Levi would be a little nervous, but London and Moscow coming helps

Dublin has a surprisingly soft couple of weeks meaning Top 4 is a near formality, although Dublin vs Jing in the final round will be fun

So much drama still to unfold!

I know everyone (including myself lol) doesn't take us too serious atm, but if we can get a few starters back in time don't completely shrug us off just yet ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 13, 2017, 08:55:05 AM
Heaps of possibilities!

I didn't think it would be a couple weeks ago, but the finals race will be as hot as ever.

I swear, if Buenos Aires beat me this week, I'm quitting worlds :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on July 13, 2017, 11:21:08 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 13, 2017, 08:55:05 AM
Heaps of possibilities!

I didn't think it would be a couple weeks ago, but the finals race will be as hot as ever.

I swear, if Buenos Aires beat me this week, I'm quitting worlds :P
Up the dildos!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on July 13, 2017, 11:52:06 AM
5/9 and 7/9
Still better than my AFL tipping atm

Quote from: Ricochet on June 30, 2017, 12:20:18 PM
With absolutely zero research, and done in about 2 minutes, i'll go with...

Round 13, AFL Round 15         
Rio de Janeiro Jaguars   1   Cape Town Cobras   0
Pacific Islanders   1   Buenos Aires Armadillos   0
Mexico City Suns   1   Christchurch Saints   0
New York Revolution   0   Toronto Wolves   1
PNL Reindeers   1   Moscow Spetsnaz   0
Dublin Destroyers   1   Berlin Brewers   0
Tokyo Samurai   0   London Royals   1
Beijing Thunder   0   Seoul Magpies   1
Cairo Sands   0   New Delhi Tigers   1

Round 14, AFL Round 16         
Home Team   Score   Away Team   Score
Cape Town Cobras   0   New Delhi Tigers   1
Seoul Magpies   1   Cairo Sands   0
London Royals   0   Beijing Thunder   1
Berlin Brewers   1   Tokyo Samurai   0
Moscow Spetsnaz   0   Dublin Destroyers   1
PNL Reindeers   0   Toronto Wolves   1
Christchurch Saints   1   New York Revolution   0 Damn, so close
Mexico City Suns   1   Buenos Aires Armadillos   0
Pacific Islanders   1   Rio de Janeiro Jaguars   0

Round 15, AFL Round 17         
Home Team   Score   Away Team   Score
Toronto Wolves   1   Cape Town Cobras   0
Christchurch Saints   1   Moscow Spetsnaz   0
Buenos Aires Armadillos   0   Berlin Brewers   1
Rio de Janeiro Jaguars   1   London Royals   0
Seoul Magpies   0   Pacific Islanders   1
New Delhi Tigers   1   Mexico City Suns   0
New York Revolution   1   Cairo Sands   0
Beijing Thunder   1   PNL Reindeers   0
Tokyo Samurai   0   Dublin Destroyers   1

Round 16, AFL Round 18         
Home Team   Score   Away Team   Score
Cape Town Cobras   0   Christchurch Saints   1
Buenos Aires Armadillos   0   Toronto Wolves   1
Moscow Spetsnaz   0   Rio de Janeiro Jaguars   1
Berlin Brewers   0   Pacific Islanders   1
London Royals   0   Mexico City Suns   1
New York Revolution   0   Seoul Magpies   1
New Delhi Tigers   1   PNL Reindeers   0
Cairo Sands   0   Dublin Destroyers   1
Tokyo Samurai   0   Beijing Thunder   1

Round 17, AFL Round 19         
Home Team   Score   Away Team   Score
Tokyo Samurai   0   Cape Town Cobras   1
Dublin Destroyers   0   Beijing Thunder   1
PNL Reindeers   0   Cairo Sands   1
New Delhi Tigers   1   New York Revolution   0
Mexico City Suns   0   Seoul Magpies   1
Pacific Islanders   1   London Royals   0
Berlin Brewers   0   Rio de Janeiro Jaguars   1
Buenos Aires Armadillos   0   Moscow Spetsnaz   1
Christchurch Saints   1   Toronto Wolves   0
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Adamant on July 14, 2017, 02:16:50 AM
Time to end this for once and for all. I decided to track the movements of the players and picks involved in this infamous trade to see the end result for each party.

Trade 42
Christchurch trade: Dayne Zorko, William Frampton + Pick 31
Christchurch receive: Ryan Griffen, Corey Ellis + Pick 26

Toronto trade: Ryan Griffen, Corey Ellis, Ben Newton + Pick 26
Toronto receive: Matthew Kreuzer, Taylor Hunt, James Stewart, William Frampton + Pick 31

Beijing trade: Matthew Kreuzer, Taylor Hunt + James Stewart
Beijing receive: Dayne Zorko + Ben Newton



2015/16
Christchurch trade: Dayne Zorko, William Frampton + Pick 31
Christchurch receive: Ryan Griffen, Corey Ellis + Pick 26

Christchurch trade: Pick 2 + 26 + 46
Christchurch receive: Jobe Watson + Pick 12

Christchurch trade: Tom Scully + Pick 12
Christchurch receive: Koby Stevens + Jack Trengove

2016/17
Christchurch trade: Koby Stevens, Picks 46, 64, 82
Christchurch receive: Shaun Higgins

Christchurch trade: Jobe Watson + pick 29
Christchurch receive: Picks 14 + 39

Christchurch trade: Jack Trengove
Christchurch receive: Pick 40

Christchurch trade: Picks 14 + 16 + 18
Christchurch receive: Picks 12 + 13

Christchurch trade: Picks 40 + 68
Christchurch receive: Picks 44 + 45

OVERALL



Christchurch trade       
Dayne Zorko
Tom Scully
Pick 2 Aaron Francis
Pick 16 Jy Simpkin
Pick 18 Jarrod Berry
Pick 29 Alex Witherden
Pick 31 Bailey Rice
Pick 40 Jordan Ridley
Pick 46 Mason Redman
Pick 46 Tom Stewart
Pick 82 Jack Maibaum
William Frampton
Pick 64 (PASS)
Pick 68 (PASS)
Christchurch receive         
Shaun Higgins
Ryan Griffen
Corey Ellis
Pick 12 Tim English
Pick 13 Isaac Cumming
Pick 39 Josh Daicos
Pick 44 Sean Darcy
Pick 45 Cedric Cox

Seeing as meow was able to salvage it by landing the 90 averaging Higgins and the second best ruckman in the world...

VERDICT: NO COMPO



2015/16
Beijing trade: Matthew Kreuzer, Taylor Hunt + James Stewart
Beijing receive: Dayne Zorko + Ben Newton

Beijing trade: Cale Hooker, Tom Bell, Ben Newton + Pick 8
Beijing receive: Callan Ward + Josh Jenkins

OVERALL



Beijing trade       
Matthew Kreuzer
Cale Hooker
Tom Bell
James Stewart
Taylor Hunt
Pick 8 Jacob Weitering
Beijing receive         
Dayne Zorko
Callan Ward
Josh Jenkins



*Too many trades to list

OVERALL



Toronto trade       
Touk Miller
Kieran Jack
Shane Biggs
Ryan Griffen
Richard Douglas
Lin Jong
Nick Graham
Jarryn Geary
Jake Carlisle
Corey Ellis
Zaine Cordy
Jonathan Freeman
Ciaran Sheehan
Jarrad Grant
Pick 22 Brad Scheer
Pick 40 Jordan Ridley
Pick 49 Harrison Macreadie
Pick 53 Corey Wagner
Pick 58 Mitch Hannan
Pick 67 George Hewett
Pick 68 Yestin Eades
Ben Newton
Mitch Clark
Pick 50 PASS

Toronto receive         
Matthew Kreuzer
Mitch Duncan
Scott Selwood
Pearce Hanley
Brodie Smith
Liam Picken
Shane Savage
Shane Kersten
Sam Wright
Tyson Goldsack
Jake Kelly
Nathan Brown
Pick 3 Jacob Hopper
Pick 37 Harry McKay
Pick 48 Ben McKay
Rookie Pick 4 Tom Keough
Jack Grimes
Alan Toovey
Nathan van Berlo
Rhyce Shaw
William Frampton
Matthew Dick
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2017, 08:45:05 AM
Ada for PM
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 14, 2017, 10:08:33 AM
... how are Beijing not in the 8?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on July 14, 2017, 10:29:46 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 14, 2017, 10:08:33 AM
... how are Beijing not in the 8?
I blame the coach
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 14, 2017, 10:32:12 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 14, 2017, 10:29:46 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 14, 2017, 10:08:33 AM
... how are Beijing not in the 8?
I blame the coach
I blame NY
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2017, 10:59:56 AM
Quote from: Holz on July 14, 2017, 10:32:12 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 14, 2017, 10:29:46 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 14, 2017, 10:08:33 AM
... how are Beijing not in the 8?
I blame the coach
I blame NY

Why? We're taking their place in your eyes?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 14, 2017, 11:01:29 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2017, 10:59:56 AM
Quote from: Holz on July 14, 2017, 10:32:12 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 14, 2017, 10:29:46 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 14, 2017, 10:08:33 AM
... how are Beijing not in the 8?
I blame the coach
I blame NY

Why? We're taking their place in your eyes?

I think you stole all their luck, you have two teams worth of luck at least.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2017, 11:04:36 AM
Quote from: Holz on July 14, 2017, 11:01:29 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2017, 10:59:56 AM
Quote from: Holz on July 14, 2017, 10:32:12 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 14, 2017, 10:29:46 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 14, 2017, 10:08:33 AM
... how are Beijing not in the 8?
I blame the coach
I blame NY

Why? We're taking their place in your eyes?

I think you stole all their luck, you have two teams worth of luck at least.

Our past month has been terrible, but you all seem to forget we've been missing a lot of our best 15 and playing an OOP ruck each week

We beat Beijing and we beat you too, so we're a pretty good team when we aren't crippled with injuries. We have a lot of depth, but no team really contends with their best players not available
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on July 14, 2017, 11:10:25 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2017, 11:04:36 AM

Our past month has been terrible, but you all seem to forget we've been missing a lot of our best 15 and playing an OOP ruck each week

We beat Beijing and we beat you too, so we're a pretty good team when we aren't crippled with injuries. We have a lot of depth, but no team really contends with their best players not available
Case A: Moscow
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 14, 2017, 11:12:54 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2017, 11:04:36 AM
Quote from: Holz on July 14, 2017, 11:01:29 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2017, 10:59:56 AM
Quote from: Holz on July 14, 2017, 10:32:12 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 14, 2017, 10:29:46 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 14, 2017, 10:08:33 AM
... how are Beijing not in the 8?
I blame the coach
I blame NY

Why? We're taking their place in your eyes?

I think you stole all their luck, you have two teams worth of luck at least.

Our past month has been terrible, but you all seem to forget we've been missing a lot of our best 15 and playing an OOP ruck each week

We beat Beijing and we beat you too, so we're a pretty good team when we aren't crippled with injuries. We have a lot of depth, but no team really contends with their best players not available

You beat me when i posted a 127 one of if not my worst score in years. You only posted a 141.

I average a 147 so getting me a week where im 20 under my average is lucky.

teams only average 131 against you.

140 against Beijing thats a big difference.

138 v Dublin by the way.

your team is fine, but it has been lucky.





Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2017, 11:16:36 AM
Have you not seen all of the posts I have made about how lucky we have been? I already know that, but my point is that we've been lucky whilst undermanned. If we can get our best team on the park 140-160 most weeks is what we would be scoring
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 14, 2017, 11:21:17 AM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on July 14, 2017, 11:10:25 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2017, 11:04:36 AM

Our past month has been terrible, but you all seem to forget we've been missing a lot of our best 15 and playing an OOP ruck each week

We beat Beijing and we beat you too, so we're a pretty good team when we aren't crippled with injuries. We have a lot of depth, but no team really contends with their best players not available
Case A: Moscow

Some teams do :P

I won a flag playing a OOP in the ruck when my ruck (goldy) was rested and my back up (Dixon) was injured. Then Lance Franklin and Tom Rockliff (my captain) where late outs and to top if off a player got a green vest (NDS).

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: iZander on July 14, 2017, 11:23:10 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2017, 11:16:36 AM
Have you not seen all of the posts I have made about how lucky we have been? I already know that, but my point is that we've been lucky whilst undermanned. If we can get our best team on the park 140-160 most weeks is what we would be scoring
Other than Tyson you guys are pretty much full strength this week though? :D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2017, 11:55:05 AM
Quote from: iZander on July 14, 2017, 11:23:10 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2017, 11:16:36 AM
Have you not seen all of the posts I have made about how lucky we have been? I already know that, but my point is that we've been lucky whilst undermanned. If we can get our best team on the park 140-160 most weeks is what we would be scoring
Other than Tyson you guys are pretty much full strength this week though? :D

We have no ruck with Tippett still out

Not to mention Josh Gibson was "supposed" to be our D1, and rightly so after 90+ for years - no one could have seen that drop off coming  :'(

He has really flowered up our team balance
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 14, 2017, 11:58:06 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2017, 11:55:05 AM
Quote from: iZander on July 14, 2017, 11:23:10 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2017, 11:16:36 AM
Have you not seen all of the posts I have made about how lucky we have been? I already know that, but my point is that we've been lucky whilst undermanned. If we can get our best team on the park 140-160 most weeks is what we would be scoring
Other than Tyson you guys are pretty much full strength this week though? :D

We have no ruck with Tippett still out

Not to mention Josh Gibson was "supposed" to be our D1, and rightly so after 90+ for years - no one could have seen that drop off coming  :'(

He has really flowered up our team balance

Tippet doesn't get many games when he is 100% fit. Naismith is the man.

So pretty much full strength barring Tyson.

Im expecting a 140-160 from you guys this week. Considering Tyson is out 137-157 should be the goal.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: iZander on July 14, 2017, 12:03:31 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 14, 2017, 11:58:06 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2017, 11:55:05 AM
Quote from: iZander on July 14, 2017, 11:23:10 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2017, 11:16:36 AM
Have you not seen all of the posts I have made about how lucky we have been? I already know that, but my point is that we've been lucky whilst undermanned. If we can get our best team on the park 140-160 most weeks is what we would be scoring
Other than Tyson you guys are pretty much full strength this week though? :D

We have no ruck with Tippett still out

Not to mention Josh Gibson was "supposed" to be our D1, and rightly so after 90+ for years - no one could have seen that drop off coming  :'(

He has really flowered up our team balance

Tippet doesn't get many games when he is 100% fit. Naismith is the man.

So pretty much full strength barring Tyson.

Im expecting a 140-160 from you guys this week. Considering Tyson is out 137-157 should be the goal.
Probably going to reply something along those lines, Gibson is 33 so its not unheard of for a big drop to occur, similar thing happened with Matty Boyd this year :P
Should have traded me Tyson, his big breakout didnt seem to occur, probably cause Oliver is taking all the points now haha :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 14, 2017, 12:09:04 PM
Ah, Tyson, you bloody tease.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on July 14, 2017, 01:38:30 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 14, 2017, 11:58:06 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2017, 11:55:05 AM
Quote from: iZander on July 14, 2017, 11:23:10 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2017, 11:16:36 AM
Have you not seen all of the posts I have made about how lucky we have been? I already know that, but my point is that we've been lucky whilst undermanned. If we can get our best team on the park 140-160 most weeks is what we would be scoring
Other than Tyson you guys are pretty much full strength this week though? :D

We have no ruck with Tippett still out

Not to mention Josh Gibson was "supposed" to be our D1, and rightly so after 90+ for years - no one could have seen that drop off coming  :'(

He has really flowered up our team balance

Tippet doesn't get many games when he is 100% fit. Naismith is the man.

So pretty much full strength barring Tyson.

Im expecting a 140-160 from you guys this week. Considering Tyson is out 137-157 should be the goal.
Exactly. Compo.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2017, 01:45:12 PM
I'm quite happy with Tyson vs Elliott thanks ;)

As for Naismith, have you actually looked at his numbers? Basically the same as playing an OOP ruck! He's a scrub

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on July 14, 2017, 01:51:00 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2017, 01:45:12 PM
I'm quite happy with Tyson vs Elliott thanks ;)

As for Naismith, have you actually looked at his numbers? Basically the same as playing an OOP ruck! He's a scrub
If your OOP rucks are still scoring 70, then I dunno why you've been complaining this whole time.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2017, 01:54:25 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 14, 2017, 01:51:00 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2017, 01:45:12 PM
I'm quite happy with Tyson vs Elliott thanks ;)

As for Naismith, have you actually looked at his numbers? Basically the same as playing an OOP ruck! He's a scrub
If your OOP rucks are still scoring 70, then I dunno why you've been complaining this whole time.

I was responding to Naismith being "the man" and you wanting compo

Anyway, I'll be curious to see how we go this week because as long as we don't cop any late outs it's just Tyson + OOP ruck that we're now missing


Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 14, 2017, 02:05:53 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2017, 01:54:25 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 14, 2017, 01:51:00 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2017, 01:45:12 PM
I'm quite happy with Tyson vs Elliott thanks ;)

As for Naismith, have you actually looked at his numbers? Basically the same as playing an OOP ruck! He's a scrub
If your OOP rucks are still scoring 70, then I dunno why you've been complaining this whole time.

I was responding to Naismith being "the man" and you wanting compo

Anyway, I'll be curious to see how we go this week because as long as we don't cop any late outs it's just Tyson + OOP ruck that we're now missing

Doesnt matter what he scores, he is "the man" at Sydney as he is their number 1 ruck.

68 aint to bad thats almost 30 more then an OOP.

Its basically the same value as like a 95 fwd/def to you as thats a 30 point upgrade on D4 F4.

Naismith = Henney confirmed
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 14, 2017, 02:35:16 PM
Umm...

16, 18, 29, 31, (40, 46, 46, 64, 68, 82)
For
12, 13, (39, 44, 45)

is close enough to even. So you're saying...

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZORKOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Scully
Pick 2

Is equal to

Higgins
Griffen
Ellis

COMPO

We'll say Scully for Higgo is close enough (a minor loss due to ages).
Leaving Zorko and pick 2 for Griffen and Corey Ellis. WOW.

Put Zorko, Scully and potentially Oliver in my team and remove Higgins (Griff and Ellis are already absent) and see if we're in the same position. Even if Ellis and Griffen were playing it'd still be grossly unjust. It wouldn't pass if the trade was done any time in the past 2 years or in the upcoming trade period.

Compo.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 14, 2017, 02:45:27 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 14, 2017, 02:05:53 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2017, 01:54:25 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 14, 2017, 01:51:00 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2017, 01:45:12 PM
I'm quite happy with Tyson vs Elliott thanks ;)

As for Naismith, have you actually looked at his numbers? Basically the same as playing an OOP ruck! He's a scrub
If your OOP rucks are still scoring 70, then I dunno why you've been complaining this whole time.

I was responding to Naismith being "the man" and you wanting compo

Anyway, I'll be curious to see how we go this week because as long as we don't cop any late outs it's just Tyson + OOP ruck that we're now missing

Doesnt matter what he scores, he is "the man" at Sydney as he is their number 1 ruck.

68 aint to bad thats almost 30 more then an OOP.

Its basically the same value as like a 95 fwd/def to you as thats a 30 point upgrade on D4 F4.

Naismith = Henney confirmed

Couldn't agree more. A 30 point gain is a 30 point gain, regardless of how it happens.

Jordan Roughead is a 30 point gain and he's available in a package with Tim English.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Adamant on July 14, 2017, 03:32:00 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 14, 2017, 02:35:16 PM
Umm...

16, 18, 29, 31, (40, 46, 46, 64, 68, 82)
For
12, 13, (39, 44, 45)

is close enough to even. So you're saying...

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZORKOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Scully
Pick 2

Is equal to

Higgins
Griffen
Ellis

COMPO

We'll say Scully for Higgo is close enough (a minor loss due to ages).
Leaving Zorko and pick 2 for Griffen and Corey Ellis. WOW.

Put Zorko, Scully and potentially Oliver in my team and remove Higgins (Griff and Ellis are already absent) and see if we're in the same position. Even if Ellis and Griffen were playing it'd still be grossly unjust. It wouldn't pass if the trade was done any time in the past 2 years or in the upcoming trade period.

Compo.

Sean Darcy > Zorko, Scully and Pick 2 combined

No compo.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2017, 03:56:59 PM
Of course I know a ruck, even Naismith is better than OOP but we actually have a ruck who is clearly going through a rough patch in his career. I know it doesn't happen often, but a fit and firing Tippett is a big loss to our team

Might be a 20-30 point gain having Naismith, but I'm not paying insane overs for a poor player just because he has ruck status. Hope Tippett comes back, or chase a better ruck

Either way, we're OOP in the rucks and clearly plan on fixing that in the off season but in the meantime cut us a little slack. Can only play the cards we've been dealt

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2017, 04:04:01 PM
And I think playing an OOP ruck vs getting someone like Naismith isn't worth getting him at all

Most weeks he gives 50-60 with the odd 70-80 vs an 80+ player giving you 30-50. The amount we'd have to give up to get a Naismith type which is a loss of points elsewhere wouldn't be worth it overall

I think persisting with Tippett and OOP for now, while trying to get a better ruck is our best bet

Either way, it's our Achilles heel and costly
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 14, 2017, 04:36:59 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2017, 04:04:01 PM
And I think playing an OOP ruck vs getting someone like Naismith isn't worth getting him at all

Most weeks he gives 50-60 with the odd 70-80 vs an 80+ player giving you 30-50. The amount we'd have to give up to get a Naismith type which is a loss of points elsewhere wouldn't be worth it overall

I think persisting with Tippett and OOP for now, while trying to get a better ruck is our best bet

Either way, it's our Achilles heel and costly

why not get all the rucks from 1 team?

no OOP and generally the back ups put up good numbers anyway.

Goldy Preuss Daw Durdin
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 14, 2017, 06:19:35 PM
Get all the rucks from one team then somebody changes clubs and screws it up, meaning you'll have to pay overs. Not worth it.

NY would be fine if they didn't trade Vardy :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on July 14, 2017, 06:28:47 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2017, 04:04:01 PM
And I think playing an OOP ruck vs getting someone like Naismith isn't worth getting him at all

Most weeks he gives 50-60 with the odd 70-80 vs an 80+ player giving you 30-50. The amount we'd have to give up to get a Naismith type which is a loss of points elsewhere wouldn't be worth it overall

I think persisting with Tippett and OOP for now, while trying to get a better ruck is our best bet

Either way, it's our Achilles heel and costly

They are overs because as you well know it is hard to have one consistently playing

Example if we were to ask for tippet from you at EOS
Averaging 61 and being 31 next year he'd be worth practically nothing
Or still hold good value being a ruck?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 14, 2017, 06:55:52 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on July 14, 2017, 06:28:47 PM
They are overs because as you well know it is hard to have one consistently playing

This may be a little known fact, but Nathan Vardy has played every match this year.

Is this getting old yet?

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 14, 2017, 07:22:28 PM
Heh, I used to think the 'all rucks from one club' was a good strat...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 16, 2017, 10:09:43 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 14, 2017, 07:22:28 PM
Heh, I used to think the 'all rucks from one club' was a good strat...

If you had of got pedo it would have worked.

Goldy preuss daw durdin nielson it would take 5 injuries for me to go oop
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: iZander on July 16, 2017, 10:16:02 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 16, 2017, 10:09:43 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 14, 2017, 07:22:28 PM
Heh, I used to think the 'all rucks from one club' was a good strat...

If you had of got pedo it would have worked.

Goldy preuss daw durdin nielson it would take 5 injuries for me to go oop
Pedo wasnt a ruck so it wouldnt of worked :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 16, 2017, 10:39:13 PM
Quote from: iZander on July 16, 2017, 10:16:02 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 16, 2017, 10:09:43 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 14, 2017, 07:22:28 PM
Heh, I used to think the 'all rucks from one club' was a good strat...

If you had of got pedo it would have worked.

Goldy preuss daw durdin nielson it would take 5 injuries for me to go oop
Pedo wasnt a ruck so it wouldnt of worked :P

Correct
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Adamant on July 16, 2017, 10:40:34 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 16, 2017, 10:39:13 PM
Quote from: iZander on July 16, 2017, 10:16:02 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 16, 2017, 10:09:43 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 14, 2017, 07:22:28 PM
Heh, I used to think the 'all rucks from one club' was a good strat...

If you had of got pedo it would have worked.

Goldy preuss daw durdin nielson it would take 5 injuries for me to go oop
Pedo wasnt a ruck so it wouldnt of worked :P

Correct

He will be next year though. :D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 16, 2017, 10:42:58 PM
Quote from: Adamant on July 16, 2017, 10:40:34 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 16, 2017, 10:39:13 PM
Quote from: iZander on July 16, 2017, 10:16:02 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 16, 2017, 10:09:43 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 14, 2017, 07:22:28 PM
Heh, I used to think the 'all rucks from one club' was a good strat...

If you had of got pedo it would have worked.

Goldy preuss daw durdin nielson it would take 5 injuries for me to go oop
Pedo wasnt a ruck so it wouldnt of worked :P

Correct

He will be next year though. :D

Ah! But you assume there is a next year  :-X gut feel is that he will be 'retired' :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 28, 2017, 04:39:14 PM
knock knock
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on July 31, 2017, 03:32:23 PM
Just when we start to get them all back for finals.... we lose them again

Cameron and Cockatoo out will stretch our fwd line :-\

Thank god for the return of Travis
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 31, 2017, 03:56:57 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 31, 2017, 03:32:23 PM
Just when we start to get them all back for finals.... we lose them again

Cameron and Cockatoo out will stretch our fwd line :-\

Thank god for the return of Travis

Its abit of a shame, we both arent full strength.

last week I had 5 of my best 15 gone. Hoping to get a few guys back.

J Darling (WC), J Martin (GC), T Cloke (WB), R Knight  is that the only 4 forwards on your list who are playing?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on July 31, 2017, 05:09:07 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 31, 2017, 03:56:57 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 31, 2017, 03:32:23 PM
Just when we start to get them all back for finals.... we lose them again

Cameron and Cockatoo out will stretch our fwd line :-\

Thank god for the return of Travis

Its abit of a shame, we both arent full strength.

last week I had 5 of my best 15 gone. Hoping to get a few guys back.

J Darling (WC), J Martin (GC), T Cloke (WB), R Knight  is that the only 4 forwards on your list who are playing?
Ha yeh probably
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 31, 2017, 05:14:17 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 31, 2017, 05:09:07 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 31, 2017, 03:56:57 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 31, 2017, 03:32:23 PM
Just when we start to get them all back for finals.... we lose them again

Cameron and Cockatoo out will stretch our fwd line :-\

Thank god for the return of Travis

Its abit of a shame, we both arent full strength.

last week I had 5 of my best 15 gone. Hoping to get a few guys back.

J Darling (WC), J Martin (GC), T Cloke (WB), R Knight  is that the only 4 forwards on your list who are playing?
Ha yeh probably

geez imagine if one is rested.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Adamant on July 31, 2017, 05:41:27 PM
Danger gawn. Massive blow for Seoul!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jay on July 31, 2017, 07:26:35 PM
Quote from: Adamant on July 31, 2017, 05:41:27 PM
Danger gawn. Massive blow for Seoul!
What a shame :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 31, 2017, 08:18:12 PM
Quote from: Adamant on July 31, 2017, 05:41:27 PM
Danger gawn. Massive blow for Seoul!

far out Ada, you can't go and phrase it like that. I nearly died.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on August 01, 2017, 05:16:34 PM
My whole strategy is out of the window? What do i do? Please Send help!

Do I captain Kelly, Do I captain Clayton? Do I CC?

Its all too hard!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on August 01, 2017, 05:35:52 PM
Of course Lids come back now that our season is over  ::)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 02, 2017, 12:23:04 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 01, 2017, 05:16:34 PM
My whole strategy is out of the window? What do i do? Please Send help!

Do I captain Kelly, Do I captain Clayton? Do I CC?

Its all too hard!
hahaha gold

Quote from: JROO8 on August 01, 2017, 05:35:52 PM
Of course Lids come back now that our season is over  ::)
Will probably go nuts too
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: iZander on August 02, 2017, 07:59:01 PM
These teams without rucks just have poor team management, we wouldnt have seen this problem at Dillos this week.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on August 03, 2017, 01:59:57 AM
Quote from: Holz on July 31, 2017, 03:56:57 PM
J Darling (WC), J Martin (GC), T Cloke (WB), R Knight  is that the only 4 forwards on your list who are playing?

Haha wow, lucky we have this Robbie Gray bloke at F1 next season ;) And Sidey too if AF is anything to go by!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 07, 2017, 05:56:48 PM
Well the MRP is no fun

Duncan (1 week)
Hawkins (2 weeks)


Toronto lose Duncan against the Islanders

and I lose Hawkins against Islanders/Toronto


Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on August 07, 2017, 06:07:51 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 07, 2017, 05:56:48 PM
Well the MRP is no fun

Duncan (1 week)
Hawkins (2 weeks)


Toronto lose Duncan against the Islanders

and I lose Hawkins against Islanders/Toronto
Is there anyone named Jay on the MRP?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 07, 2017, 06:11:21 PM
Quote from: GoLions on August 07, 2017, 06:07:51 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 07, 2017, 05:56:48 PM
Well the MRP is no fun

Duncan (1 week)
Hawkins (2 weeks)


Toronto lose Duncan against the Islanders

and I lose Hawkins against Islanders/Toronto
Is there anyone named Jay on the MRP?

i know right, balances out that he has no witts possibly for both games.

I should have Jroo back so not too worried unless i have another forward out.

Duncan is big but not as big as witts.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 07, 2017, 06:12:21 PM
With all those outs spud Stanley should return, giving Pacific a ruck
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on August 07, 2017, 06:12:33 PM
Yeah there's about 20cms and 15 kgs size difference. Good call.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 07, 2017, 06:17:51 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 07, 2017, 06:12:33 PM
Yeah there's about 20cms and 15 kgs size difference. Good call.

What?

Stanley coming in for Hawkins is such a crazy thought?  :o
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on August 07, 2017, 06:20:29 PM
The return of the Aaron Black.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on August 07, 2017, 06:27:22 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 07, 2017, 06:12:33 PM
Yeah there's about 20cms and 15 kgs size difference. Good call.
Haha ;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on August 07, 2017, 06:39:59 PM
Quote from: GoLions on August 07, 2017, 06:07:51 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 07, 2017, 05:56:48 PM
Well the MRP is no fun

Duncan (1 week)
Hawkins (2 weeks)


Toronto lose Duncan against the Islanders

and I lose Hawkins against Islanders/Toronto
Is there anyone named Jay on the MRP?

No danger no worries!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 07, 2017, 06:52:28 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 07, 2017, 06:39:59 PM
Quote from: GoLions on August 07, 2017, 06:07:51 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 07, 2017, 05:56:48 PM
Well the MRP is no fun

Duncan (1 week)
Hawkins (2 weeks)


Toronto lose Duncan against the Islanders

and I lose Hawkins against Islanders/Toronto
Is there anyone named Jay on the MRP?

No danger no worries!

well Depends if you had of played Dublin or NDT you would have got destroyed.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on August 07, 2017, 07:19:05 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 07, 2017, 06:52:28 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 07, 2017, 06:39:59 PM
Quote from: GoLions on August 07, 2017, 06:07:51 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 07, 2017, 05:56:48 PM
Well the MRP is no fun

Duncan (1 week)
Hawkins (2 weeks)


Toronto lose Duncan against the Islanders

and I lose Hawkins against Islanders/Toronto
Is there anyone named Jay on the MRP?

No danger no worries!

well Depends if you had of played Dublin or NDT you would have got destroyed.

Irrelevant
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on August 07, 2017, 07:34:11 PM
Or Christchurch. Just as relevant.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on August 07, 2017, 07:40:39 PM
Purps can i run Danger around in the magoos this week to get some match fitness back? :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 07, 2017, 09:04:18 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 07, 2017, 07:40:39 PM
Purps can i run Danger around in the magoos this week to get some match fitness back? :P

As replacement for everyone else eligible for Pyongyang, yes :P

But I guess that wouldn't be fair on the Imperial Princes  :-X
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 08, 2017, 11:38:26 AM
Seoul just lost Lynch to a PCL.

big blow.

they dont have much depth up front at all (and every line really)

Parfitt was the cover last week and only put up 34 points and if averaging 56 for the season.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on August 08, 2017, 01:02:28 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 08, 2017, 11:38:26 AM
Seoul just lost Lynch to a PCL.

big blow.

they dont have much depth up front at all (and every line really)

Parfitt was the cover last week and only put up 34 points and if averaging 56 for the season.

Don't worry Greene is back and we had a forward playing as a utility to cover Danger plus forwards scoring 90s and 100s in the magoos
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on August 09, 2017, 07:29:46 PM
What ever happened to Truthin Ryan. Anyone know? Levi?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 14, 2017, 01:34:51 PM
Just coz...






RD     
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21

Matt     
113
76
88
78
124
111
97
79
88
123
105
100
131
132
116
104
134
120
139
139

Brad     




118
73
54
80
89
110
77
84
94
121
99
108
94

149
75

+/-   




+6
+38
+43
-1
-1
+13
+28
+16
+37
+11
+17
-4
+40

-10
+64

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 14, 2017, 01:38:19 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 14, 2017, 01:34:51 PM
Just coz...






RD     
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21

Matt     
113
76
88
78
124
111
97
79
88
123
105
100
131
132
116
104
134
120
139
139

Brad     




118
73
54
80
89
110
77
84
94
121
99
108
94

149
75

+/-   




+6
+38
+43
-1
-1
+13
+28
+16
+37
+11
+17
-4
+40

-10
+64
RD confirmed long lost Crouch brother.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 14, 2017, 01:47:23 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 14, 2017, 01:38:19 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 14, 2017, 01:34:51 PM
Just coz...






RD     
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21

Matt     
113
76
88
78
124
111
97
79
88
123
105
100
131
132
116
104
134
120
139
139

Brad     




118
73
54
80
89
110
77
84
94
121
99
108
94

149
75

+/-   




+6
+38
+43
-1
-1
+13
+28
+16
+37
+11
+17
-4
+40

-10
+64
RD confirmed long lost Crouch brother.

Otherwise known as Worse Than Brad, based off those terrible numbers

At least he's improving every week i suppose
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on August 14, 2017, 01:52:22 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 14, 2017, 01:47:23 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 14, 2017, 01:38:19 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 14, 2017, 01:34:51 PM
Just coz...






RD     
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21

Matt     
113
76
88
78
124
111
97
79
88
123
105
100
131
132
116
104
134
120
139
139

Brad     




118
73
54
80
89
110
77
84
94
121
99
108
94

149
75

+/-   




+6
+38
+43
-1
-1
+13
+28
+16
+37
+11
+17
-4
+40

-10
+64
RD confirmed long lost Crouch brother.

Otherwise known as Worse Than Brad, based off those terrible numbers

At least he's improving every week i suppose
"That's the thing about RD, you know exactly what you're gonna get. Basically the opposite of a box of chocolates."

- Forrest Gump, probably
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 14, 2017, 04:14:36 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 14, 2017, 01:34:51 PM
Just coz...






RD     
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21

Matt     
113
76
88
78
124
111
97
79
88
123
105
100
131
132
116
104
134
120
139
139

Brad     




118
73
54
80
89
110
77
84
94
121
99
108
94

149
75

+/-   




+6
+38
+43
-1
-1
+13
+28
+16
+37
+11
+17
-4
+40

-10
+64

All that I need to see is that Brad put up a 149 in Final 1 for Dublin. Given that my season is literally the 3 finals games he is on a 149 average soo far this season.

I cant wait to see what Brad does after a full preseason been very happy with his 106 post bye average. His Dt to SC ratio has been poor as he has been racking it up which is great, no doubt a full preseason will help tremendously in this.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on August 14, 2017, 07:02:37 PM
Tobys free to play  8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on August 17, 2017, 10:42:07 PM
Get around Josh Daics making his debut this week. Joins Christchurch's SPS, English, Cedric and Darcy from last draft getting a gig in the AFL. What a haul. The only remaining member, Isaac Cumming, will be worth the wait.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: fanTCfool on August 17, 2017, 11:28:14 PM
Quote from: GoLions on August 14, 2017, 01:52:22 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 14, 2017, 01:47:23 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 14, 2017, 01:38:19 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 14, 2017, 01:34:51 PM
Just coz...






RD     
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21

Matt     
113
76
88
78
124
111
97
79
88
123
105
100
131
132
116
104
134
120
139
139

Brad     




118
73
54
80
89
110
77
84
94
121
99
108
94

149
75

+/-   




+6
+38
+43
-1
-1
+13
+28
+16
+37
+11
+17
-4
+40

-10
+64
RD confirmed long lost Crouch brother.

Otherwise known as Worse Than Brad, based off those terrible numbers

At least he's improving every week i suppose
"That's the thing about RD, you know exactly what you're gonna get. Basically the opposite of a box of chocolates."

- Forrest Gump, probably


Just stumbled across these numbers, it's worth noting that RD has outscored Brad more times than Brad has outscored Matt  8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 17, 2017, 11:29:53 PM
It goes Matt, Me and then Brad  8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 18, 2017, 12:07:10 AM
Quote from: fanTCfool on August 17, 2017, 11:28:14 PM
Quote from: GoLions on August 14, 2017, 01:52:22 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 14, 2017, 01:47:23 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 14, 2017, 01:38:19 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 14, 2017, 01:34:51 PM
Just coz...






RD     
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21

Matt     
113
76
88
78
124
111
97
79
88
123
105
100
131
132
116
104
134
120
139
139

Brad     




118
73
54
80
89
110
77
84
94
121
99
108
94

149
75

+/-   




+6
+38
+43
-1
-1
+13
+28
+16
+37
+11
+17
-4
+40

-10
+64
RD confirmed long lost Crouch brother.

Otherwise known as Worse Than Brad, based off those terrible numbers

At least he's improving every week i suppose
"That's the thing about RD, you know exactly what you're gonna get. Basically the opposite of a box of chocolates."

- Forrest Gump, probably


Just stumbled across these numbers, it's worth noting that RD has outscored Brad more times than Brad has outscored Matt  8)
;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Boomz on August 18, 2017, 11:35:34 PM
Saw a few posts around about me going missing at the end of the year & not being very active so just thought I'd clarify. I was on holiday's and had some personal shower which limited my access to the internet (yes, I tend to go away the same month every year ;D) and once I did get online I couldn't login to FF for some reason, HP can vouch for this as I messaged him on FB.
I'll try to be more active from now on and anyone looking to trade PM me and I'll be on discord over the weekend too.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 20, 2017, 01:43:35 PM
Happy Birthday to Polo!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 21, 2017, 08:58:51 PM
I'd like to ask everyone to take a minute to reflect on what has happened today

The great Jack Fitzpatrick has called it a day and retired from the game due to issues with concussion

You were one of the greats Fitzy

One of the greats

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 21, 2017, 09:49:59 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 21, 2017, 08:58:51 PM
I'd like to ask everyone to take a minute to reflect on what has happened today

The great Jack Fitzpatrick has called it a day and retired from the game due to issues with concussion

You were one of the greats Fitzy

One of the greats
How fitting that the J-Pack all retired together.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on August 22, 2017, 10:42:02 AM
Quote from: Nige on August 21, 2017, 09:49:59 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 21, 2017, 08:58:51 PM
I'd like to ask everyone to take a minute to reflect on what has happened today

The great Jack Fitzpatrick has called it a day and retired from the game due to issues with concussion

You were one of the greats Fitzy

One of the greats
How fitting that the J-Pack all retired together.

Jarrad Waite is retiring?!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 22, 2017, 11:06:51 AM
Quote from: meow meow on August 22, 2017, 10:42:02 AM
Quote from: Nige on August 21, 2017, 09:49:59 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 21, 2017, 08:58:51 PM
I'd like to ask everyone to take a minute to reflect on what has happened today

The great Jack Fitzpatrick has called it a day and retired from the game due to issues with concussion

You were one of the greats Fitzy

One of the greats
How fitting that the J-Pack all retired together.

Jarrad Waite is retiring?!
Oh.

For some reason I remembered the J-Pack being Fitzpatrick, White and Gibson.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on August 22, 2017, 12:27:57 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 22, 2017, 11:06:51 AM
Quote from: meow meow on August 22, 2017, 10:42:02 AM
Quote from: Nige on August 21, 2017, 09:49:59 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 21, 2017, 08:58:51 PM
I'd like to ask everyone to take a minute to reflect on what has happened today

The great Jack Fitzpatrick has called it a day and retired from the game due to issues with concussion

You were one of the greats Fitzy

One of the greats
How fitting that the J-Pack all retired together.

Jarrad Waite is retiring?!
Oh.

For some reason I remembered the J-Pack being Fitzpatrick, White and Gibson.

Now that would be a kr3w!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on August 23, 2017, 01:34:46 PM
http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/afl/teams/brisbane/brisbane-coach-chris-fagan-says-ryan-lester-is-the-lions-most-important-player/news-story/67f7342b42b57fb59183e238694514a9
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on August 23, 2017, 01:38:07 PM
Coaching position in BXVs

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,110290.0.html
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 10:17:59 AM
What's the general consensus on a new 36 team XV competition? Do we have enough XV's already? Would it dilute the existing games? Would we struggle to get 36 coaches? Is having 2 of every player a stupid idea? Would it fail? Or would it be awesome to have more people involved? Would it be incredible to have an all new original draft? Would you like to see Rico vs Ele? Levi vs PK? Holz vs FTC?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 24, 2017, 10:23:36 AM
Quote from: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 10:17:59 AM
What's the general consensus on a new 36 team XV competition? Do we have enough XV's already? Would it dilute the existing games? Would we struggle to get 36 coaches? Is having 2 of every player a stupid idea? Would it fail? Or would it be awesome to have more people involved? Would it be incredible to have an all new original draft? Would you like to see Rico vs Ele? Levi vs PK? Holz vs FTC?

would ruin the current game as much as id love to have 2 Dustin Martin's.

The whole point is 1 player per team.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 24, 2017, 10:33:55 AM
Quote from: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 10:17:59 AM
What's the general consensus on a new 36 team XV competition?
Love the idea

Quote from: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 10:17:59 AM
Do we have enough XV's already?
If properly run it wouldn't matter. I'm assuming Purps would need a bit of a hand with an expansion that big

Quote from: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 10:17:59 AM
Would it dilute the existing games?
Only if the workload to admins means content drops. Previews. Writeups. etc.

Quote from: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 10:17:59 AM
Would we struggle to get 36 coaches?
No. 36 active ones maybe. But everyone wants to be apart for Worlds. Well almost everyone

Quote from: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 10:17:59 AM
Is having 2 of every player a stupid idea?
Nope its pretty cool

Quote from: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 10:17:59 AM
Would it fail?
Maybe

Quote from: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 10:17:59 AM
Or would it be awesome to have more people involved?
Totes Awes

Quote from: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 10:17:59 AM
Would it be incredible to have an all new original draft?
Incredible

Quote from: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 10:17:59 AM
Would you like to see Rico vs Ele? Levi vs PK? Holz vs FTC?
I'd smash ele
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 10:48:09 AM
Purps wouldn't be the admin. He does enough. He could relax and just participate. I'd admin and enlist plenty of help.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on August 24, 2017, 10:51:25 AM
I'd be keen!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 24, 2017, 01:59:29 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 10:48:09 AM
Purps wouldn't be the admin. He does enough. He could relax and just participate. I'd admin and enlist plenty of help.

Sounds good to me!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 24, 2017, 04:13:28 PM
36 Coaches may be the issue

A radical Idea maybe have 2 comps of 10 Teams playing a full home and away comp over the first 18 Rounds that is all teams playing each other twice.  Then Finals over 4 weeks.

Run as a promotion and relegation with bottom 4 and top 4 being promoted  or could be Premier and the next 3 highest placed teams.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 04:59:58 PM
36 would be easy. We've got at least 20 in WXV who could run their own team.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 31, 2017, 08:41:36 PM
And yet none are under the minimum.

We are not changing anything for another 11 months. Please stop campaigning for it.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on September 01, 2017, 12:01:26 AM
Tom Lonergan would have brought up the 100 reserves games this year if he was on a list. #Neverforget
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 01, 2017, 12:11:08 AM
imo what would be most interesting

a new comp with only 16 teams

but teams fielded like AFL teams

so 6 def/fwds etc
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on September 01, 2017, 11:32:40 AM
Quote from: Levi434 on September 01, 2017, 12:01:26 AM
Tom Lonergan would have brought up the 100 reserves games this year if he was on a list. #Neverforget

Haha wow thats an effort!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 15, 2017, 09:53:55 PM
Danger to get M/F surely :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on September 16, 2017, 01:35:33 AM
Gibbs to Adelaide
Rocky to Carlton

Blues get an upgrade  ;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 16, 2017, 09:09:16 AM
No way, Gibbs is a much better 'footballer'
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Rids on October 10, 2017, 07:59:12 PM
Just advertising a vacant AXV coaching position for anyone interested.

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,110393.0.html

Thanks
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jukes on October 20, 2017, 07:05:42 PM
ASC still looking for a coach if anybody's interested - elite team, 2014 2015 2016 2017 grand finallists, 2016 premiers.

Pm me and you'll probably get the gig

Edit from Nige: http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,108020.0.html Team is Boston, second team listed is the second post in that thread
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on October 23, 2017, 11:14:44 AM
Interesting but as expected.

B: Jesse Joyce, Steven May, Jarrod Harbrow
HB: Pearce Hanley, Rory Thompson, Sean Lemmens
C: Lachie Weller, David Swallow, Touk Miller
HF: Jack Martin, Peter Wright, Alex Sexton
F: Aaron Young, Tom Lynch, Ben Ainsworth
R: Jarrod Witts, Will Brodie, Aaron Hall
INT: Matt Rosa, Jarryd Lyons, Callum Ah Chee, Michael Rischitelli

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on October 23, 2017, 11:28:09 AM
Lemmens out Fiorini in. Seagull half back, 90 average coming up. Def status in 2019.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on October 23, 2017, 11:42:52 AM
Quote from: meow meow on October 23, 2017, 11:28:09 AM
Lemmens out Fiorini in. Seagull half back, 90 average coming up. Def status in 2019.
Lemmens was lock 22 before hurting his ankle.

KK Bowes Scrimshaw Barlow Scheer all trying to crack into this team too. 3 of those guys can/do play in defence.

seems alot for pick 4.


Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Adamant on October 23, 2017, 12:20:42 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 23, 2017, 11:42:52 AM
KK Barlow trying to crack into this team too.

Say no more. Just goes to show the legitimacy of the blokes writing these articles.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on October 23, 2017, 12:54:39 PM
Quote from: Adamant on October 23, 2017, 12:20:42 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 23, 2017, 11:42:52 AM
KK Barlow trying to crack into this team too.

Say no more. Just goes to show the legitimacy of the blokes writing these articles.

who do you kick out though?

Lemmens Joyce Young maybe.

Barlow was excluded because they didn't know how he was coming back from injury. So thats fair enough.
KK was out of the squad as he is struggling with ongoing concussion issues.

seems a pretty good 22 to be honest.

The point was Fiorini isnt in my best 22 and he wasnt in this one after.

on that note.

im surprised NDT have moved on Harry Morison.  79 average defender who is only 18. Going by trade value he would have to be worth what pick 1 or 2?




Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on October 23, 2017, 01:05:25 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 23, 2017, 12:54:39 PM
im surprised NDT have moved on Harry Morison.  79 average defender who is only 18. Going by trade value he would have to be worth what pick 1 or 2?
Um no we haven't. You'd want 2x top 3 picks if you're coming after Harry
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Adamant on October 23, 2017, 01:34:08 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 23, 2017, 12:54:39 PM
Quote from: Adamant on October 23, 2017, 12:20:42 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 23, 2017, 11:42:52 AM
KK Barlow trying to crack into this team too.

Say no more. Just goes to show the legitimacy of the blokes writing these articles.

who do you kick out though?

Lemmens Joyce Young maybe.

Barlow was excluded because they didn't know how he was coming back from injury. So thats fair enough.
KK was out of the squad as he is struggling with ongoing concussion issues.

seems a pretty good 22 to be honest.

The point was Fiorini isnt in my best 22 and he wasnt in this one after.

on that note.

im surprised NDT have moved on Harry Morison.  79 average defender who is only 18. Going by trade value he would have to be worth what pick 1 or 2?

Barlow will be ready for day one of pre-season so he's a round one lock. Can't see concussion keeping KK out for close to 9 months.

Lemmens was one of Rocket's favourites but he won't be so lucky under Dew.
Fiorini has shown more in 15 games than Sexton has in 75.
HazardousTelevision is finished. Rosa isn't far off.
Brodie will need to have a big pre-season to jump Fiorini based on what I saw this year.

You have strange vendettas against certain players. Here's something that is sure to rub you up the wrong way - I would take Fiorini over Weits in a fantasy comp every day of the week.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on October 23, 2017, 02:00:03 PM
Quote from: Adamant on October 23, 2017, 01:34:08 PM
You have strange vendettas against certain players. Here's something that is sure to rub you up the wrong way - I would take Fiorini over Weits in a fantasy comp every day of the week.

Doesnt rub me the wrong way at all.

First up I would too if this was DT. Fiorini has actually shown good numbers in DT when he plays. 5/15 games at 100+ is very good not only that but 4 where 109+. Certainly showed that if he plays he can score very well in DT.

Sadly he has a 1.24 DT to SC ratio. I looked up his 3 latest 100+ DT games.

26.3 disposals but only 6.6 Contested and 19.6 Uncontested at 73% disposal efficiency with 2 clanger. 8 marks but 0 contested. 0.6 1%ers and 3.7 tackles and 0.6 goals

Thats cherry picking his best games but Seagull from Meow is certainly correct.

As always time will always tell.

Im more then happy for most people to have a different opinion then me, when you are abit of an outsider if you are wrong more then correct then you typically would struggle in these types of comps and be abit of a joke. If you are correct more then you are wrong then you usually go fairly well in these comps.

You can be the judge if you consider Dublin a team that is fairly strong run by a guy who knows what he is doing or if its a joke easy beat team run by a guy who has no clue.








Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on October 23, 2017, 02:08:48 PM
TL;DR only teams in the top 4/8 can vote on trades now. I retract my previous votes from this morning @Purple 77
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 23, 2017, 02:45:58 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 23, 2017, 02:08:48 PM
TL;DR only teams in the top 4/8 can vote on trades now. I retract my previous votes from this morning @Purple 77
I too would like to follow this course of action.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 23, 2017, 02:59:34 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 23, 2017, 02:00:03 PM
Im more then happy for most people to have a different opinion then me, when you are abit of an outsider if you are wrong more then correct then you typically would struggle in these types of comps and be abit of a joke. If you are correct more then you are wrong then you usually go fairly well in these comps.
Hang on.

Did you say "most people" are allowed to have a different opinion? Who's not included in this? Do you have puppets or alts that have to agree?

Who are these outsiders you speak of? Care to name names? Maybe it might encourage them to participate more.

Also that's up there with the stupidest things you have said.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 23, 2017, 03:01:22 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 23, 2017, 02:45:58 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 23, 2017, 02:08:48 PM
TL;DR only teams in the top 4/8 can vote on trades now. I retract my previous votes from this morning @Purple 77
I too would like to follow this course of action.
With those suggestions might neg all trades this week then. 
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 23, 2017, 03:04:55 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 23, 2017, 03:01:22 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 23, 2017, 02:45:58 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 23, 2017, 02:08:48 PM
TL;DR only teams in the top 4/8 can vote on trades now. I retract my previous votes from this morning @Purple 77
I too would like to follow this course of action.
With those suggestions might neg all trades this week then.
Probably wouldn't change anything. Go for it, I say.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on October 23, 2017, 03:30:24 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 23, 2017, 03:04:55 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 23, 2017, 03:01:22 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 23, 2017, 02:45:58 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 23, 2017, 02:08:48 PM
TL;DR only teams in the top 4/8 can vote on trades now. I retract my previous votes from this morning @Purple 77
I too would like to follow this course of action.
With those suggestions might neg all trades this week then.
Probably wouldn't change anything. Go for it, I say.
Probably what Holz wants since there's no Dublin trades up for votes this week :-X
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on October 23, 2017, 03:42:53 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 23, 2017, 02:59:34 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 23, 2017, 02:00:03 PM
Im more then happy for most people to have a different opinion then me, when you are abit of an outsider if you are wrong more then correct then you typically would struggle in these types of comps and be abit of a joke. If you are correct more then you are wrong then you usually go fairly well in these comps.
Hang on.

Did you say "most people" are allowed to have a different opinion? Who's not included in this? Do you have puppets or alts that have to agree?

Who are these outsiders you speak of? Care to name names? Maybe it might encourage them to participate more.

Also that's up there with the stupidest things you have said.

Just a word of advice before you go around calling people stupid you might want to read what people actually say.

Most people do seem to have a different opinion to me, some (the minority it seems) agree with me and im ok with that. I then said im abit of an outsider (which again reiterates the point).

Again I am the outsider. Which It is very obviously implied that im referring myself to an outsider backed up by saying when outsiders are wrong more often then they are right they are bad at these comps and when its the reverse they are good.

I didn't think i had to spell this out but ill summarise it for you so its clear.

1. I have a different opinion to the majority on alot of things when it comes to fantasy football.
2. If you are different and make more good calls then bad then you succeed if you are different and make more bad calls then good then you fail.
3. Dublin is very successful so im implying i make more good calls then bad.

I have no clue what your going on about you might want to explain that to me.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on October 23, 2017, 03:57:14 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 23, 2017, 03:30:24 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 23, 2017, 03:04:55 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 23, 2017, 03:01:22 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 23, 2017, 02:45:58 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 23, 2017, 02:08:48 PM
TL;DR only teams in the top 4/8 can vote on trades now. I retract my previous votes from this morning @Purple 77
I too would like to follow this course of action.
With those suggestions might neg all trades this week then.
Probably wouldn't change anything. Go for it, I say.
Probably what Holz wants since there's no Dublin trades up for votes this week :-X
Exactly what i dont want. I vote on trades forgetting who both parties are, there is no need to take into consideration where that team is on the ladder, who the coach is or what the needs of their team is. Thats for the coaches to decide when they do the trade.

I might be an outsider by doing that but in my opinion its the correct way of going about.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 23, 2017, 04:20:27 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 23, 2017, 03:42:53 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 23, 2017, 02:59:34 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 23, 2017, 02:00:03 PM
Im more then happy for most people to have a different opinion then me, when you are abit of an outsider if you are wrong more then correct then you typically would struggle in these types of comps and be abit of a joke. If you are correct more then you are wrong then you usually go fairly well in these comps.
Hang on.

Did you say "most people" are allowed to have a different opinion? Who's not included in this? Do you have puppets or alts that have to agree?

Who are these outsiders you speak of? Care to name names? Maybe it might encourage them to participate more.

Also that's up there with the stupidest things you have said.

Just a word of advice before you go around calling people stupid you might want to read what people actually say.

Most people do seem to have a different opinion to me, some (the minority it seems) agree with me and im ok with that. I then said im abit of an outsider (which again reiterates the point).

Again I am the outsider. Which It is very obviously implied that im referring myself to an outsider backed up by saying when outsiders are wrong more often then they are right they are bad at these comps and when its the reverse they are good.

I didn't think i had to spell this out but ill summarise it for you so its clear.

1. I have a different opinion to the majority on alot of things when it comes to fantasy football.
2. If you are different and make more good calls then bad then you succeed if you are different and make more bad calls then good then you fail.
3. Dublin is very successful so im implying i make more good calls then bad.

I have no clue what your going on about you might want to explain that to me.
Nice try, but I never called you stupid. Even smart people can say stupid things, nobody is immune to that. There's no need to be smug.

Having a different opinion to others doesn't make you an outsider, it literally just means you have a different opinion and don't agree. Not sure why you're suddenly slapping this label on yourself. Is it an effort to feel special? We all know you like to wave your dick as it is and harp on about being successful. Just don't be a cow about it, it's very simple.

And if I did misconstrue what your post was saying, it obviously wasn't that clear.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on October 23, 2017, 04:40:39 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 23, 2017, 04:20:27 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 23, 2017, 03:42:53 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 23, 2017, 02:59:34 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 23, 2017, 02:00:03 PM
Im more then happy for most people to have a different opinion then me, when you are abit of an outsider if you are wrong more then correct then you typically would struggle in these types of comps and be abit of a joke. If you are correct more then you are wrong then you usually go fairly well in these comps.
Hang on.

Did you say "most people" are allowed to have a different opinion? Who's not included in this? Do you have puppets or alts that have to agree?

Who are these outsiders you speak of? Care to name names? Maybe it might encourage them to participate more.

Also that's up there with the stupidest things you have said.

Just a word of advice before you go around calling people stupid you might want to read what people actually say.

Most people do seem to have a different opinion to me, some (the minority it seems) agree with me and im ok with that. I then said im abit of an outsider (which again reiterates the point).

Again I am the outsider. Which It is very obviously implied that im referring myself to an outsider backed up by saying when outsiders are wrong more often then they are right they are bad at these comps and when its the reverse they are good.

I didn't think i had to spell this out but ill summarise it for you so its clear.

1. I have a different opinion to the majority on alot of things when it comes to fantasy football.
2. If you are different and make more good calls then bad then you succeed if you are different and make more bad calls then good then you fail.
3. Dublin is very successful so im implying i make more good calls then bad.

I have no clue what your going on about you might want to explain that to me.
Nice try, but I never called you stupid. Even smart people can say stupid things, nobody is immune to that. There's no need to be smug.

Having a different opinion to others doesn't make you an outsider, it literally just means you have a different opinion and don't agree. Not sure why you're suddenly slapping this label on yourself. Is it an effort to feel special? We all know you like to wave your dick as it is and harp on about being successful. Just don't be a cow about it, it's very simple.

And if I did misconstrue what your post was saying, it obviously wasn't that clear.

Just on that last point first. If one person misconstrues what somebody says that doesn't mean it wasn't clear.

I do like to banter as thats what adds to the competition it creates rivalries, villains, heroes. How boring would sport be if this wasn't the case.

I do quite often have a very different view on a number of fantasy topics to most people. So i do feel like a outsider to a point, that doesn't make me edgy and cool.

At the end of the day I dont make out there calls to be different i make out there calls because i think they are right and approach fantasy differently to most people. Which makes sense considering i dont even really watch AFL I approach it more as a money ball style approach which i know 90%+ of people on here dont do.

I will be wrong alot of the time but if im right 6 times out of 10 then thats a good year.

I will say the same thing that i say when people complain about Tiger Fans bragging about their grand final win. If you dont like it then hope your team beats them next year. The great thing about worlds is you actually can have an influence on how your team performs which is the appeal of fantasy sports.

If you dont like me talking up Dublin, then beat me on the field and then I cant'.





Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on October 23, 2017, 07:32:07 PM
Since this is where it all started, here is the last remaining GC fan on Earth's opinion(If not for much longer tehehe):

B: Jack Leslie, Steven May, Pearce Hanley

HB: Jack Bowes, Rory Thompson, Jarrod Harbrow

C: Lachie Weller, Aaron Hall, Kade Kolodjashnij

HF: Aaron Young, Peter Wright, Touk Miller

FF: Jack Martin, Tom Lynch, Ben Ainsworth

Foll: Jarrod Witts, David Swallow, Jarrod Lyons

Int: Brayden Fiorini, Michael Barlow, Michael Rischitelli, Will Brodie



Immediate Depth(No particular order):
Callum Ah Chee
Matt Rosa
Alex Sexton
Jesse Lonergan
Sam Day
Trent McKenzie
Sean Lemmens
Jack Scrimshaw
Jesse Joyce
Brad Scheer



Key Points:
-I highly doubt Fiorini will be a back but you can't tell what Dew will dew. He is in my team on the bench because there is no way he doesn't play.
-Scheer and Scrimshaw were too far back this year to call them best 22 randomly for next year.
-All the talk is that Barlow will be fit so he'll play and be best 22. IF fit.
-I don't want that UnsafeTelly in the team but he will be because... "leadership."
-I highly doubt Rosa will play. He's not good enough to be a mid and sucks as a back. NEAFL it is.
-As much as I love Lemmens, I don't think he will play. He is a great club man but don't mean nuffin on the park.
-I have KK on the wing because I feel like it. He can push back because there are 15 guys in my team who can run through the mids if need be.
-Jack Leslie was promising this year so I don't see why he loses his spot. He can play on talls and smalls as well.
-Ah Chee does nothing amazing. Anything he does well. Others also do.
-Sexton is trash and a selfish hog. Highly doubt that will be tolerated by Dewy.
-Joyce is good but I don't see a spot for him. I'd have Lemmens above Joyce honestly.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 23, 2017, 08:05:05 PM
Left out Josh Schoenfeldt in your depth Levi.
Also think Sam Day may start on bench because of versatility back or forward.  Remember injury cruelled his season this year,
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 23, 2017, 08:25:57 PM
Pretty hard to take any of you serious when you don't even mention the jet that is H.Wigg
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 23, 2017, 08:27:14 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 23, 2017, 08:25:57 PM
Pretty hard to take any of you serious when you don't even mention the jet that is H.Wigg
I was thinking he was a glaring omission.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on October 24, 2017, 06:00:22 PM
After all this talk of you just need to make top 4 and its all luck i just did a review of the last 6 premiers.

2012: Mexico 2nd, PPG 147 (2nd)
2013: Pumas 4th, PPG 151 (2nd)
2014: Dublin 2nd, PPG 155 (1st)
2015: Mexico 4th, PPG 149 (2nd)
2016: Rio 2nd, PPG 143 (3rd)
2017: Dublin 4th, PPG 146 (3rd)

Few interesting notes:

1. People have only won from 2nd and 4th on the ladder with it alternating each year. So you want to finish 2nd that year.
2: No team has ever eon not being in the top 3 scorers that year.
3. The average scoring power of a winning squad is 149

So to win next year you must finish 2nd, be top 3 in scoring and be aiming to knock up about 149 points a week.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on October 24, 2017, 06:15:56 PM
Well I guess that rules out the best team ever in Dublin, then! Chuck me BTB for Cunnington and 7, Holz, will give you a better chance at winning the flag this year :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on October 24, 2017, 06:22:08 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 24, 2017, 06:15:56 PM
Well I guess that rules out the best team ever in Dublin, then! Chuck me BTB for Cunnington and 7, Holz, will give you a better chance at winning the flag this year :)

what rules me out?

Id tip NDT to finish top, so i have me 2nd at the moment.

Also at the moment Mexico is the best team ever.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on October 24, 2017, 06:42:22 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 24, 2017, 06:22:08 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 24, 2017, 06:15:56 PM
Well I guess that rules out the best team ever in Dublin, then! Chuck me BTB for Cunnington and 7, Holz, will give you a better chance at winning the flag this year :)

what rules me out?

Id tip NDT to finish top, so i have me 2nd at the moment.

Also at the moment Mexico is the best team ever.
But but but we only average 146 atm, not close enough to 149. We're no chance
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on October 24, 2017, 07:44:14 PM
Griff is going to average 421 which will see us become the dreaded minor premiers. Dang it.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 30, 2017, 07:05:47 PM
Just a question:

If a player on a list is de-listed and picked up as a rookie which of the following options can be used assuming he does not stay on Senior List:

1) Automatically moves to rookie list if vacancy.
2) De-List and pick up with rookie draft pick.

1 is the ideal but not sure whether allowed,
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 30, 2017, 07:40:20 PM
If a player is delisted and then put on his clubs rookie list (I suspect you're asking because of CEY) , we'll know before our drafts start here so you'll be able to decide if you want to keep them (have to stay on your senior list) or delist them and hope to draft them back yourself giving you the choice to put on your rookie list, but run the risk of someone else picking them up

You can't put senior players directly onto your rookie list

Correct me if I'm wrong Purps
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on October 30, 2017, 08:44:47 PM
5 gold stars for RD  8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 31, 2017, 03:07:07 PM
NDT might as well just trade out their entire team and start from scratch because they aren't a hope of winning now with the great Simon White being delisted today  :'(

I'd like to suggest some sort of WXV medal/award be created in his memory
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on October 31, 2017, 08:40:16 PM
NDT now taking applications for new coaches
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on November 15, 2017, 09:09:23 PM
When does the fixture usually get done? I'll do the write up/previews for round 1 matches and it'd be good to have months to work on the mother of all previews.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on November 16, 2017, 12:38:35 AM
Quote from: meow meow on November 15, 2017, 09:09:23 PM
When does the fixture usually get done? I'll do the write up/previews for round 1 matches and it'd be good to have months to work on the mother of all previews.

Best and funniest idea ever!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on November 16, 2017, 06:18:08 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 15, 2017, 09:09:23 PM
When does the fixture usually get done? I'll do the write up/previews for round 1 matches and it'd be good to have months to work on the mother of all previews.

I would love for you to do this haha.

Normally I'd do the fixture in January, but I can try to take time off playing PUBG and make it this year :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on November 16, 2017, 06:30:47 PM
Consider it done Purps, have a well earned week off. I don't really need the fixture as the write ups will focus more on the individual teams instead of the match up and history behind them. That'll be included but can be added in later.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on November 16, 2017, 06:36:27 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 16, 2017, 06:30:47 PM
Consider it done Purps, have a well earned week off. I don't really need the fixture as the write ups will focus more on the individual teams instead of the match up and history behind them. That'll be included but can be added in later.

Awesome!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on November 29, 2017, 10:03:34 PM
Just a question or for discussion with rookie listed players being able to be used from Rd 1 this next season are we changing our rules regarding rookies. Really no need for a rookie list going forward.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on November 29, 2017, 11:29:23 PM
#keeptherookies
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jukes on November 30, 2017, 01:38:35 AM
Make every player a rookie bar your best XV tbh
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Adamant on December 01, 2017, 05:35:59 PM
Heeney MID/FWD is good news for New York, though probably doesn't make much of a difference with a stacked forward line already. Greenwood MID only too.

Goddard and Zak Jones both MID only for Berlin. Ouch.

Lobb misses out on RUCK status as expected. RIP Cairo?

Barlow FWD status is a huge gain for Pacific.

Blakely MID only sucks for us. Clarke better get def status.

Newnes somehow being MID only is annoying for NDT (sorry Rico). Though Menegola getting FWD status softens the blow I'd imagine.

@RD Told you Boak and Mundy were locks for FWD status. :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Adamant on December 01, 2017, 05:41:16 PM
Quote from: Adamant on December 01, 2017, 05:35:59 PM
Blakely MID only sucks for us. Clarke better get def status.

And Clarke confirmed def status. Thank flower for that.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on December 01, 2017, 05:45:39 PM
Quote from: Adamant on December 01, 2017, 05:35:59 PM
Lobb misses out on RUCK status as expected. RIP Cairo?
Izak Rankine where you at?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on December 01, 2017, 06:11:41 PM
Gunston pure forward.

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316575334000492544/386036255646941188/image.png?width=187&height=301)

Hands down the worst fantasy position decision I have ever seen.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 01, 2017, 06:17:13 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on December 01, 2017, 06:11:41 PM
Gunston pure forward.

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316575334000492544/386036255646941188/image.png?width=187&height=301)

Hands down the worst fantasy position decision I have ever seen.

He played 2/3 of the year as a fwd, the other 3rd in defense.

F/D no brainier.

not too fussed though as Tmac got F/D and he was the important one.



Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on December 01, 2017, 06:26:04 PM
Danger robbed!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: upthemaidens on December 01, 2017, 06:47:56 PM
Barlow getting dpp is a nice surprise.  Motlop being Mid only not so much...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on December 01, 2017, 06:54:40 PM
Where can we find a full list of positions?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on December 01, 2017, 07:02:49 PM
There isn't one yet. AFL Fantasy has been been doing requests on their FB and Twitter pages.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Adamant on December 01, 2017, 07:21:33 PM
Here are all the confirmed leaks so far:

Menegola MID/FWD
Barlow MID/FWD
Mundy MID/FWD
Heeney MID/FWD
Boak MID/FWD
Mathieson MID/FWD
Parish MID/FWD
Setterfield MID/FWD
Wells MID/FWD
KJack MID/FWD
Thomas MID/FWD
Dahlhaus MID/FWD
Petracca MID/FWD
Wallis MID/FWD
Westhoff MID/FWD
De Goey MID/FWD
Acres MID/FWD
Wingard MID/FWD
MRobinson MID/FWD
Colyer MID/FWD
Balic MID/FWD
Walters MID/FWD
McCluggage MID/FWD
Hanley DEF/MID
Aish DEF/MID
Seedsman DEF/MID
ABrayshaw DEF/MID
LMcDonald DEF/MID
TMcDonald DEF/FWD
Sicily DEF/FWD
RClarke DEF
Yeo DEF
Duggan DEF
Vlastuin DEF
LJones DEF
Conca DEF
Rich DEF
Crisp DEF
Vince DEF
Suckling DEF
Salem DEF
Bowes DEF
BEllis DEF
Deledio FWD
RGray FWD
Picken FWD
Gunston FWD
Billings FWD
JMartin FWD
Lobb FWD
Keays FWD
Melksham FWD
Lang FWD
Hrovat FWD
Crozier FWD
Dangerfield MID
DMartin MID
Fyfe MID
TAdams MID
Lewis MID
Macrae MID
ISmith MID
BHill MID
Blakely MID
Newnes MID
Goddard MID
Daniel MID
Griffen MID
ZJones MID
Steele MID
Motlop MID
LHunter MID
Fiorini MID
Greenwood MID
DHowe MID
Higgins MID
Sheed MID
Sidebottom MID
WHE MID
Rockliff MID
Newman MID
MKennedy MID
Bastinac MID
Lovell MID
TPhillips MID
Amon MID
Wigg MID
Berry MID
CEY MID
Weller MID
JGraham MID
JSinclair MID
Nankervis RUC
Preuss RUC
MCox RUC/FWD
Daw RUC/FWD
ASmith RUC/FWD
McKernan RUC/FWD
Buzza RUC/FWD
Stanley RUC/FWD
Pedersen RUC/FWD
Tippett RUC/FWD
McInnes RUC/FWD
English RUC/FWD
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Adamant on December 01, 2017, 07:26:34 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on December 01, 2017, 06:47:56 PM
Barlow getting dpp is a nice surprise.  Forward four of  Barlow, Smith, Jenkins and Motlop  is pretty solid.

Well you've actually lost Motlop, so haven't really gained anything after all. :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Boomz on December 01, 2017, 07:28:12 PM
Argh WHE  :'(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on December 01, 2017, 07:42:28 PM
Says on afl.au

That Matthew Kennedy is mid only
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Adamant on December 01, 2017, 07:45:28 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on December 01, 2017, 07:42:28 PM
Says on afl.au

That Matthew Kennedy is mid only

Yeah you're right, must have misread it.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on December 01, 2017, 08:22:53 PM
Wowee Menegola.

Newnes missing out is crap but
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on December 01, 2017, 08:24:40 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on December 01, 2017, 06:11:41 PM
Gunston pure forward.

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316575334000492544/386036255646941188/image.png?width=187&height=301)

Hands down the worst fantasy position decision I have ever seen.
Yeh 100%! That heatmap says it all
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on December 01, 2017, 08:31:01 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 01, 2017, 08:24:40 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on December 01, 2017, 06:11:41 PM
Gunston pure forward.

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316575334000492544/386036255646941188/image.png?width=187&height=301)

Hands down the worst fantasy position decision I have ever seen.
Yeh 100%! That heatmap says it all

Spends two thirds of the year up forward and gets 12 kicks in total so his heat map doesn't have much activity, moves down back for a third of the season and racks up cheap kicks, making it look like he actually did something.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on December 01, 2017, 09:07:06 PM
Heeney getting DPP is delicious. MVP :P

Hanley Def/Mid beautiful

Tippett getting DPP too is great

Very happy with those changes :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on December 01, 2017, 09:23:38 PM
Quote from: meow meow on December 01, 2017, 08:31:01 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 01, 2017, 08:24:40 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on December 01, 2017, 06:11:41 PM
Gunston pure forward.

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316575334000492544/386036255646941188/image.png?width=187&height=301)

Hands down the worst fantasy position decision I have ever seen.
Yeh 100%! That heatmap says it all

Spends two thirds of the year up forward and gets 12 kicks in total so his heat map doesn't have much activity, moves down back for a third of the season and racks up cheap kicks, making it look like he actually did something.
I was joking. Heatmaps are useless
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on December 01, 2017, 10:07:16 PM
Haha yeah fair call.

They're not seeming too ridiculous on second investigation. Still feel like its such a subjective process.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on December 01, 2017, 10:18:14 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on December 01, 2017, 10:07:16 PM
Haha yeah fair call.

They're not seeming too ridiculous on second investigation. Still feel like its such a subjective process.
:P
yeh most should match up across the board. Like generally where you line up is where you'll find most of your ball.
But in terms of how they determine the possies, where a player finds their possessions (heatmaps) isn't taken into account.

That and that they only split the field in half instead of thirds
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Rusty00 on December 01, 2017, 11:32:06 PM
Is that Nic Newman MID only ???

Lachie Weller as well?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Adamant on December 01, 2017, 11:33:45 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on December 01, 2017, 11:32:06 PM
Is that Nic Newman MID only ???

Lachie Weller as well?

Yes to both, strangely enough.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on December 03, 2017, 02:27:38 PM
Quote from: Adamant on December 01, 2017, 07:21:33 PM
Here are all the confirmed leaks so far:

Daniel MID
Weller MID

Scared me with Caleb there!

But Weller wtf!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on December 07, 2017, 07:55:55 PM
I had to eye-ball these from a series of images, so a couple might be wrong, but these are the 2018 positions:

Full NameWXV ClubPOS1POS2
Aaron BlackBeijing ThunderFWD
Aaron FrancisRio de Janeiro JaguarsDEFFWD
Aaron HallToronto WolvesMID
Aaron MullettCape Town CobrasDEF
Aaron NaughtonMexico City SunsDEF
Aaron SandilandsChristchurch SaintsRUC
Aaron VandenbergBerlin BrewersFWD
Aaron YoungTokyo SamuraiFWD
Adam CerraBuenos Aires ArmadillosMID
Adam KennedyNo ClubDEFMID
Adam OxleyPNL ReindeersDEF
Adam SaadLondon RoyalsDEF
Adam TomlinsonPacific IslandersDEF
Adam TreloarMoscow SpetsnazMID
Aidan CorrTokyo SamuraiDEF
Aiden BonarBuenos Aires ArmadillosMIDFWD
Aidyn JohnsonNo ClubFWD
Alex FasoloPacific IslandersFWD
Alex JohnsonNo ClubDEF
Alex KeathNo ClubDEF
Alex MorganTokyo SamuraiDEF
Alex Neal-BullenCape Town CobrasFWD
Alex PearceToronto WolvesFWD
Alex RanceDublin DestroyersDEF
Alex SextonNew York RevolutionDEF
Alex SilvagniNo ClubFWD
Alex WitherdenToronto WolvesDEF
Aliir AliirPacific IslandersDEF
Allen ChristensenToronto WolvesFWD
Andrew BrayshawBuenos Aires ArmadillosMID
Andrew GaffPacific IslandersMID
Andrew McGrathCairo SandsDEF
Andrew McPhersonPacific IslandersDEF
Andrew PhillipsMoscow SpetsnazRUC
Andy OttenPNL ReindeersDEFFWD
Angus BrayshawRio de Janeiro JaguarsDEFMID
Angus SchumacherChristchurch SaintsDEFMID
Angus StylesDrafteeDEFMID
Anthony McDonald-TipungwutiTokyo SamuraiFWD
Anthony MilesMexico City SunsMID
Archie SmithNew Delhi TigersRUCFWD
Bachar HouliNew Delhi TigersDEF
Bailey BanfieldDrafteeMID
Bailey DaleRio de Janeiro JaguarsMID
Bailey RiceCairo SandsDEF
Bailey WilliamsPacific IslandersDEF
Bayley FritschTokyo SamuraiFWD
Ben AinsworthCape Town CobrasFWD
Ben BrownCairo SandsFWD
Ben CrockerBerlin BrewersFWD
Ben CunningtonCape Town CobrasMID
Ben DavisBerlin BrewersDEFFWD
Ben GriffithsCape Town CobrasFWD
Ben JacobsRio de Janeiro JaguarsMID
Ben JarmanLondon RoyalsFWD
Ben KeaysPNL ReindeersFWD
Ben LongTokyo SamuraiFWD
Ben McEvoySeoul MagpiesRUC
Ben McKayToronto WolvesDEFFWD
Ben McNieceNo ClubDEF
Ben MillerDrafteeRUC
Ben PatonNew York RevolutionDEF
Ben ReidNew York RevolutionDEFFWD
Ben RonkeNo ClubFWD
Ben StrattonCairo SandsDEF
Bernie VinceMexico City SunsDEF
Billy GowersPacific IslandersFWD
Billy HartungRio de Janeiro JaguarsMID
Billy LongerMexico City SunsRUC
Billy StretchMoscow SpetsnazMID
Blake AcresMoscow SpetsnazMIDFWD
Blake HardwickLondon RoyalsDEF
Brad CrouchDublin DestroyersMID
Brad EbertCape Town CobrasMID
Brad ScheerCairo SandsFWD
Brad SheppardLondon RoyalsDEF
Bradley HillBeijing ThunderMID
Bradley LynchToronto WolvesDEF
Brady GreyNo ClubFWD
Brandan ParfittSeoul MagpiesMIDFWD
Brandon EllisBeijing ThunderDEF
Brandon MateraSeoul MagpiesFWD
Brandon StarcevichBerlin BrewersMIDFWD
Brandon WhiteCairo SandsDEF
Brandon Zerk-ThatcherDrafteeDEFFWD
Brayden AinsworthMoscow SpetsnazMID
Brayden CrossleyChristchurch SaintsMID
Brayden FioriniToronto WolvesMID
Brayden MaynardRio de Janeiro JaguarsDEF
Brayden SierNew Delhi TigersMID
Braydon PreussDublin DestroyersRUC
Brendan WhitecrossCairo SandsFWD
Brendon Ah CheeRio de Janeiro JaguarsMIDFWD
Brendon GoddardBerlin BrewersMID
Brennan CoxChristchurch SaintsDEFFWD
Brent DanielsChristchurch SaintsMIDFWD
Brett DeledioDublin DestroyersFWD
Brodie GrundyBeijing ThunderRUC
Brodie SmithMexico City SunsDEF
Brody MihocekDrafteeDEF
Bryce GibbsChristchurch SaintsMID
Cale HookerBuenos Aires ArmadillosFWD
Caleb DanielSeoul MagpiesMIDFWD
Caleb MarchbankSeoul MagpiesDEF
Callan EnglandDrafteeMID
Callan WardBeijing ThunderMID
Callum Ah CheePacific IslandersFWD
Callum BrownMoscow SpetsnazMIDFWD
Callum Coleman-JonesBeijing ThunderRUC
Callum MillsCape Town CobrasDEF
Callum MooreMexico City SunsFWD
Callum PorterBeijing ThunderMID
Callum SinclairLondon RoyalsRUC
Cam McCarthySeoul MagpiesFWD
Cameron Ellis-YolmenNew York RevolutionMID
Cameron GuthriePacific IslandersMID
Cameron HewettNo ClubDEF
Cameron O'SheaCape Town CobrasDEF
Cameron PedersenRio de Janeiro JaguarsRUCFWD
Cameron PolsonBuenos Aires ArmadillosMIDFWD
Cameron RaynerBuenos Aires ArmadillosMIDFWD
Cameron SutcliffeCape Town CobrasDEF
Cameron ZurhaarSeoul MagpiesFWD
Cedric CoxChristchurch SaintsDEF
Chad WingardPNL ReindeersMIDFWD
Changkuoth JiathCat B RookieFWD
Charlie BallardPNL ReindeersMIDFWD
Charlie CameronTokyo SamuraiFWD
Charlie ConstableMexico City SunsMID
Charlie CurnowSeoul MagpiesMID
Charlie DixonBerlin BrewersFWD
Charlie SpargoLondon RoyalsMIDFWD
Chris MastenBuenos Aires ArmadillosMID
Chris MayneBuenos Aires ArmadillosFWD
Christian PetraccaMexico City SunsMIDFWD
Christian SalemSeoul MagpiesDEF
Cian HanleyNo ClubDEF
Ciaran ByrneBeijing ThunderDEF
Cillian McDaidCat B RookieDEF
Clay SmithChristchurch SaintsDEF
Claye BeamsNo ClubMID
Clayton OliverSeoul MagpiesMID
Colin O'RiordanDublin DestroyersDEF
Connor BallendenCape Town CobrasDEFFWD
Connor BlakelyToronto WolvesMID
Connor MenadueTokyo SamuraiMID
Connor NuttingDrafteeDEF
Conor GlassSeoul MagpiesDEF
Conor McKennaChristchurch SaintsDEF
Conor NashLondon RoyalsDEF
Corey EllisCairo SandsDEFMID
Corey LyonsCairo SandsMID
Corey MaynardSeoul MagpiesMID
Cory GregsonNo ClubFWD
Curtly HamptonPacific IslandersMID
Cyril RioliPNL ReindeersFWD
Dale MorrisChristchurch SaintsDEF
Dale ThomasTokyo SamuraiMIDFWD
Dallas WillsmoreNew Delhi TigersMID
Dan ButlerBeijing ThunderFWD
Dan HanneberyNew Delhi TigersMID
Dan HoustonNew York RevolutionDEF
Dane RampeBerlin BrewersDEF
Daniel HoweBeijing ThunderMID
Daniel LloydBerlin BrewersFWD
Daniel McKenzieCairo SandsDEF
Daniel McStayLondon RoyalsDEF
Daniel MenzelBerlin BrewersFWD
Daniel NielsonDublin DestroyersDEF
Daniel RichNew Delhi TigersDEF
Daniel RioliBeijing ThunderFWD
Daniel RobinsonMexico City SunsFWD
Daniel TaliaMoscow SpetsnazDEF
Daniel VenablesCape Town CobrasFWD
Daniel WellsChristchurch SaintsMIDFWD
Danyle PearceMexico City SunsDEF
Darcy Byrne-JonesMexico City SunsDEF
Darcy CameronPNL ReindeersRUC
Darcy FogartySeoul MagpiesMIDFWD
Darcy GardinerLondon RoyalsDEF
Darcy LangCape Town CobrasFWD
Darcy MacPhersonNo ClubFWD
Darcy MooreChristchurch SaintsFWD
Darcy ParishBuenos Aires ArmadillosMIDFWD
Darcy TuckerNew Delhi TigersMIDFWD
Darragh JoyceDublin DestroyersDEF
Darren MinchingtonBerlin BrewersFWD
David ArmitageBerlin BrewersMID
David AstburyMoscow SpetsnazDEF
David CuninghamLondon RoyalsMIDFWD
David MackayCape Town CobrasMID
David MirraDrafteeDEF
David MundyToronto WolvesMIDFWD
David MyersSeoul MagpiesMID
David SwallowSeoul MagpiesMID
David ZaharakisCairo SandsMID
Dawson SimpsonCairo SandsRUC
Dayne BeamsCairo SandsMID
Dayne ZorkoBeijing ThunderMID
Dean KentCape Town CobrasFWD
Dean TowersLondon RoyalsFWD
Declan KeiltyNew York RevolutionDEF
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on December 07, 2017, 07:56:06 PM
Full NameWXV ClubPOS1POS2
Declan MountfordToronto WolvesDEFMID
Declan WatsonPNL ReindeersDEF
Derek SmithCat B RookieDEF
Devon SmithPacific IslandersFWD
Dion JohnstoneNew York RevolutionMIDFWD
Dion PrestiaToronto WolvesMID
Dom BarrySeoul MagpiesMID
Dom SheedLondon RoyalsMID
Dom TysonRio de Janeiro JaguarsMID
Dougal HowardPNL ReindeersDEF
Doulton LanglandsDrafteeDEFMID
Dustin MartinDublin DestroyersMID
Dylan BuckleyNo ClubDEF
Dylan ClarkeCape Town CobrasMIDFWD
Dylan GrimesLondon RoyalsDEF
Dylan MooreMoscow SpetsnazMID
Dylan RobertonCairo SandsDEF
Dylan ShielPNL ReindeersMID
Dyson HeppellMoscow SpetsnazMID
Easton WoodBeijing ThunderDEF
Ed CurnowBuenos Aires ArmadillosFWD
Ed LangdonNew Delhi TigersMIDFWD
Ed RichardsChristchurch SaintsDEF
Ed Vickers-WillisDublin DestroyersDEF
Eddie BettsNew York RevolutionFWD
Edward PhillipsSeoul MagpiesMID
Elliot HimmelbergDublin DestroyersFWD
Elliot YeoRio de Janeiro JaguarsDEF
Emmanuel IrraBeijing ThunderDEF
Eric HipwoodRio de Janeiro JaguarsFWD
Eric MacKenzieCairo SandsDEF
Esava RatugoleaNew York RevolutionFWD
Ethan HughesLondon RoyalsDEF
Fergus GreeneNo ClubFWD
Fletcher RobertsNo ClubDEF
Flynn ApplebyDrafteeDEF
Francis WatsonBeijing ThunderDEF
Fraser McInnesTokyo SamuraiRUCFWD
Gary Jnr AblettChristchurch SaintsMID
Gary RohanRio de Janeiro JaguarsFWD
George HewettMoscow SpetsnazMIDFWD
George Horlin-SmithMexico City SunsMID
Gordon NarrierDrafteeFWD
Grant BirchallDublin DestroyersDEF
Griffin LogueCape Town CobrasDEF
Gryan MiersNew York RevolutionFWD
Hamish BrayshawLondon RoyalsMID
Hamish HartlettNew Delhi TigersDEF
Harley BalicDublin DestroyersMIDFWD
Harley BennellBuenos Aires ArmadillosFWD
Harris AndrewsChristchurch SaintsDEF
Harrison HimmelbergPacific IslandersDEF
Harrison JonesDrafteeMID
Harrison MacreadieDublin DestroyersDEF
Harrison MarshNew York RevolutionDEF
Harrison PettyBerlin BrewersDEF
Harrison WiggPacific IslandersMID
Harry CunninghamTokyo SamuraiFWD
Harry DearPacific IslandersDEFFWD
Harry McKayBerlin BrewersFWD
Harry MorrisonNew Delhi TigersDEF
Harry PerrymanTokyo SamuraiDEF
Harry TaylorBuenos Aires ArmadillosDEFFWD
Hayden BallantyneRio de Janeiro JaguarsFWD
Hayden CrozierPNL ReindeersFWD
Heath GrundyLondon RoyalsDEF
Heath ShawChristchurch SaintsDEF
Hugh DixonNew York RevolutionFWD
Hugh GoddardPNL ReindeersDEF
Hugh GreenwoodNew York RevolutionMID
Hugh McCluggageCairo SandsMIDFWD
Hunter ClarkPNL ReindeersMID
Isaac CummingRio de Janeiro JaguarsDEF
Isaac HeeneyNew York RevolutionMIDFWD
Isaac SmithSeoul MagpiesMID
Ivan SoldoMexico City SunsRUC
Jack BillingsPNL ReindeersFWD
Jack BowesCape Town CobrasMID
Jack BuckleyCat B RookieFWD
Jack CrispMoscow SpetsnazDEF
Jack DarlingNew Delhi TigersFWD
Jack FrostNo ClubDEF
Jack GrahamMexico City SunsMID
Jack GunstonDublin DestroyersFWD
Jack HenryDublin DestroyersFWD
Jack HigginsLondon RoyalsMIDFWD
Jack HombschMoscow SpetsnazDEF
Jack LeslieBerlin BrewersDEF
Jack LoniePNL ReindeersFWD
Jack MacraeToronto WolvesMID
Jack MadgenCat B RookieMID
Jack MaibaumBerlin BrewersDEF
Jack MartinNew Delhi TigersFWD
Jack NewnesNew Delhi TigersMID
Jack PayneDrafteeDEF
Jack PetruccelleCape Town CobrasMIDFWD
Jack ReddenToronto WolvesMID
Jack RedpathRio de Janeiro JaguarsFWD
Jack RiewoldtDublin DestroyersFWD
Jack ScrimshawBuenos Aires ArmadillosDEF
Jack SilvagniMexico City SunsDEF
Jack SinclairMoscow SpetsnazMID
Jack SteeleNew York RevolutionMID
Jack StevenNew Delhi TigersMID
Jack TrengoveBerlin BrewersMID
Jack VineyBerlin BrewersMID
Jack WattsMoscow SpetsnazFWD
Jack ZiebellNew Delhi TigersMID
Jackson EdwardsDrafteeMID
Jackson MerrettNo ClubDEFFWD
Jackson NelsonPNL ReindeersDEF
Jackson RossBeijing ThunderMIDFWD
Jackson ThurlowBeijing ThunderDEFMID
Jackson TrengoveSeoul MagpiesFWD
Jacob AllisonLondon RoyalsMID
Jacob DawsonCat B RookieFWD
Jacob HeronAcademy RookieDEF
Jacob HopperToronto WolvesMID
Jacob TownsendMexico City SunsFWD
Jacob WeiteringMexico City SunsDEF
Jade GreshamNew York RevolutionFWD
Jaeger O'MearaRio de Janeiro JaguarsMID
Jaidyn StephensonCape Town CobrasMIDFWD
Jake BarrettNew Delhi TigersFWD
Jake BrownCat B RookieMIDFWD
Jake CarlisleCape Town CobrasDEF
Jake KellyMoscow SpetsnazDEF
Jake KolodjashnijPacific IslandersDEF
Jake LeverBerlin BrewersDEF
Jake LloydNew Delhi TigersDEF
Jake LongNo ClubMID
Jake MelkshamRio de Janeiro JaguarsFWD
Jake NeadeNo ClubFWD
Jake PatmoreTokyo SamuraiMID
Jake SteinNo ClubDEF
Jake StringerChristchurch SaintsFWD
Jake WatermanLondon RoyalsFWD
Jamaine JonesNew York RevolutionFWD
James AishBeijing ThunderDEFMID
James BellCat B RookieMID
James CousinsLondon RoyalsMID
James FrawleyRio de Janeiro JaguarsDEF
James HarmesMexico City SunsMIDFWD
James ParsonsRio de Janeiro JaguarsFWD
James RoseNew Delhi TigersFWD
James SicilyMexico City SunsDEFFWD
James StewartChristchurch SaintsFWD
James WorpelMexico City SunsMID
Jamie CrippsTokyo SamuraiFWD
Jamie ElliottBuenos Aires ArmadillosFWD
Jamie MacMillanBuenos Aires ArmadillosDEF
Jared PolecMexico City SunsMID
Jarman ImpeyTokyo SamuraiFWD
Jarrad McVeighChristchurch SaintsDEF
Jarrad WaiteChristchurch SaintsFWD
Jarrod BerryBuenos Aires ArmadillosMID
Jarrod BranderPNL ReindeersDEFFWD
Jarrod GarlettToronto WolvesMIDFWD
Jarrod HarbrowPNL ReindeersDEF
Jarrod LienertBerlin BrewersDEF
Jarrod PickettMoscow SpetsnazFWD
Jarrod WittsPacific IslandersRUC
Jarryd BlairMexico City SunsFWD
Jarryd LyonsPacific IslandersMID
Jarryd RougheadNew York RevolutionFWD
Jarryn GearyMexico City SunsDEF
Jason CastagnaCairo SandsFWD
Jason JohannisenTokyo SamuraiDEF
Jasper PittardCape Town CobrasDEF
Jay Kennedy-HarrisCairo SandsMID
Jayden HuntBeijing ThunderDEF
Jayden LaverdePNL ReindeersFWD
Jayden ShortTokyo SamuraiDEF
Jed AndersonNew York RevolutionFWD
Jed BewsLondon RoyalsDEF
Jed LambPacific IslandersFWD
Jeff GarlettCairo SandsFWD
Jeremy CameronRio de Janeiro JaguarsFWD
Jeremy FinlaysonToronto WolvesDEFMID
Jeremy HoweNew Delhi TigersDEF
Jeremy McGovernCairo SandsDEF
Jesse Glass-McCaskerNo ClubDEF
Jesse HoganToronto WolvesFWD
Jesse JoyceBuenos Aires ArmadillosDEF
Jesse LonerganLondon RoyalsMID
Jimmy ToumpasNo ClubMID
Jimmy WebsterBuenos Aires ArmadillosDEF
Joe AtleyBuenos Aires ArmadillosMID
Joe DaniherMoscow SpetsnazFWD
Joel AmarteyDrafteeRUC
Joel GarnerNew York RevolutionDEF
Joel HamlingRio de Janeiro JaguarsDEF
Joel SelwoodDublin DestroyersMID
Joel SmithBerlin BrewersDEFMID
Jonathan O'RourkeCape Town CobrasMID
Jonathon CeglarSeoul MagpiesRUC
Jonathon PattonPNL ReindeersFWD
Jordan CunicoMexico City SunsMID
Jordan DawsonNew Delhi TigersMIDFWD
Jordan De GoeyMoscow SpetsnazMIDFWD
Jordan FooteNew Delhi TigersMIDFWD
Jordan GallucciRio de Janeiro JaguarsMIDFWD
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on December 07, 2017, 07:56:16 PM
Full NameWXV ClubPOS1POS2
Jordan HoulahanBeijing ThunderFWD
Jordan LewisNew York RevolutionMID
Jordan MurdochMexico City SunsMIDFWD
Jordan RidleyBerlin BrewersDEF
Jordan RougheadLondon RoyalsRUC
Josh BattleCape Town CobrasFWD
Josh BruceLondon RoyalsFWD
Josh CaddyBeijing ThunderMIDFWD
Josh DaicosChristchurch SaintsMIDFWD
Josh DunkleyTokyo SamuraiFWD
Josh GreenNo ClubFWD
Josh J KennedyNew York RevolutionFWD
Josh JaskaDrafteeDEF
Josh JenkinsPacific IslandersFWD
Josh KellySeoul MagpiesMID
Josh P KennedyBerlin BrewersMID
Josh RothamMoscow SpetsnazDEF
Josh SchachePNL ReindeersFWD
Josh SmithCape Town CobrasDEF
Josh ThomasSeoul MagpiesFWD
Josh WagnerNo ClubDEF
Josh WalkerRio de Janeiro JaguarsDEFFWD
Josh WilliamsBerlin BrewersDEF
Joshua BegleyMoscow SpetsnazFWD
Joshua SchoenfeldLondon RoyalsMID
Justin WesthoffDublin DestroyersMIDFWD
Jy SimpkinBuenos Aires ArmadillosFWD
Kade KolodjashnijToronto WolvesDEF
Kade SimpsonToronto WolvesDEF
Kaiden BrandNo ClubDEF
Kamdyn McIntoshSeoul MagpiesDEFMID
Kane FarrellDrafteeDEFMID
Kane LambertBeijing ThunderMIDFWD
Karl AmonCairo SandsMID
Kayle KirbyMexico City SunsFWD
Kayne TurnerTokyo SamuraiFWD
Kieran CollinsDublin DestroyersDEF
Kieran LovellSeoul MagpiesMID
Kieren JackCape Town CobrasMIDFWD
Kobe MutchPNL ReindeersMID
Koby StevensBuenos Aires ArmadillosMID
Kurt HeatherleyNo ClubDEF
Kurt MutimerDublin DestroyersFWD
Kurt TippettNew York RevolutionRUCFWD
Kyle CheneyPacific IslandersDEF
Kyle HartiganLondon RoyalsDEF
Kyle LangfordNew York RevolutionMIDFWD
Kym LeBoisBeijing ThunderFWD
Kyron HaydenToronto WolvesMID
Lachie HendersonNew York RevolutionDEF
Lachie HunterMexico City SunsMID
Lachie NealeBeijing ThunderMID
Lachie PlowmanTokyo SamuraiDEF
Lachie WellerSeoul MagpiesMID
Lachie WhitfieldTokyo SamuraiMID
Lachlan FilipovicChristchurch SaintsRUC
Lachlan FogartySeoul MagpiesMID
Lachlan KeeffeNew York RevolutionDEFFWD
Lachlan MurphyDrafteeDEF
Lachlan TizianiDublin DestroyersFWD
Lance FranklinBerlin BrewersFWD
Lee SpurrBuenos Aires ArmadillosDEF
Levi CasboultPNL ReindeersFWD
Levi GreenwoodRio de Janeiro JaguarsMIDFWD
Lewis JettaMexico City SunsMID
Lewis MelicanMexico City SunsDEF
Lewis PierceNo ClubRUC
Lewis TaylorCape Town CobrasFWD
Lewis YoungChristchurch SaintsDEF
Liam BakerDrafteeFWD
Liam DawsonNo ClubDEFFWD
Liam DugganPacific IslandersDEF
Liam JonesMoscow SpetsnazDEF
Liam PickenBerlin BrewersFWD
Liam RyanTokyo SamuraiFWD
Liam ShielsSeoul MagpiesMID
Lin JongLondon RoyalsMIDFWD
Lincoln McCarthyCairo SandsFWD
Lindsay ThomasNo ClubFWD
Lloyd MeekPacific IslandersRUC
Lochie O'BrienSeoul MagpiesDEFMID
Logan AustinChristchurch SaintsDEF
Lukas WebbPNL ReindeersMIDFWD
Luke BreustBeijing ThunderFWD
Luke BrownRio de Janeiro JaguarsDEF
Luke DahlhausNew Delhi TigersMIDFWD
Luke Davies-UniackeMexico City SunsMID
Luke DunstanNew York RevolutionMID
Luke HodgeBuenos Aires ArmadillosDEF
Luke LavenderCat B RookieRUC
Luke McDonaldCape Town CobrasDEFMID
Luke ParkerChristchurch SaintsMID
Luke PartingtonMoscow SpetsnazFWD
Luke RyanPNL ReindeersDEF
Luke ShueyLondon RoyalsMID
Luke StrnadicaTokyo SamuraiRUC
Lynden DunnRio de Janeiro JaguarsDEF
Mabior CholNo ClubFWD
Mackenzie WillisNo ClubDEF
Majak DawDublin DestroyersRUCFWD
Malcolm KarpanyBerlin BrewersFWD
Marc MurphyChristchurch SaintsMID
Marc PittonetDublin DestroyersRUC
Marco PaparoneRio de Janeiro JaguarsDEF
Marcus AdamsBeijing ThunderDEF
Marcus BontempelliPacific IslandersMID
Mark BaguleyRio de Janeiro JaguarsDEF
Mark BlicavsCape Town CobrasMID
Mark HutchingsCairo SandsMIDFWD
Mark LeCrasBuenos Aires ArmadillosFWD
Mark O'ConnorDublin DestroyersDEFMID
Marley WilliamsPNL ReindeersMID
Martin GleesonTokyo SamuraiDEF
Mason CoxBeijing ThunderRUCFWD
Mason RedmanBerlin BrewersDEF
Mason WoodMexico City SunsFWD
Matt BuntinePNL ReindeersDEF
Matt CrouchDublin DestroyersMID
Matt de BoerPacific IslandersFWD
Matt DeaTokyo SamuraiDEF
Matt EaglesNew York RevolutionDEF
Matt GuelfiBeijing ThunderFWD
Matt RosaRio de Janeiro JaguarsMID
Matt ShawToronto WolvesMID
Matt TabernerPacific IslandersFWD
Matthew AllenToronto WolvesFWD
Matthew BroadbentMexico City SunsDEF
Matthew FlynnCairo SandsRUCFWD
Matthew HayballNo ClubDEF
Matthew KennedyPNL ReindeersMID
Matthew KreuzerMoscow SpetsnazRUC
Matthew LeuenbergerToronto WolvesRUC
Matthew LingNew Delhi TigersDEF
Matthew LobbePNL ReindeersRUC
Matthew ScharenbergMoscow SpetsnazDEF
Matthew SignorelloNo ClubMIDFWD
Matthew SucklingPacific IslandersDEF
Matthew WrightBerlin BrewersFWD
Maverick WellerCairo SandsFWD
Max GawnBerlin BrewersRUC
Max LynchPNL ReindeersRUCFWD
Max SpencerBuenos Aires ArmadillosDEF
Michael ApenessNo ClubFWD
Michael BarlowPacific IslandersMIDFWD
Michael HartleyBuenos Aires ArmadillosDEF
Michael HibberdBerlin BrewersDEF
Michael HurleyPacific IslandersDEF
Michael JohnsonBerlin BrewersDEF
Michael RischitelliBuenos Aires ArmadillosMID
Michael WaltersBerlin BrewersMIDFWD
Mitch DuncanCape Town CobrasMID
Mitch HannanMexico City SunsMIDFWD
Mitch HoneychurchCairo SandsFWD
Mitch KingBerlin BrewersRUC
Mitch McGovernPacific IslandersFWD
Mitch RobinsonCairo SandsMIDFWD
Mitch W BrownNo ClubDEF
Mitch WallisPNL ReindeersMIDFWD
Mitchell CrowdenCape Town CobrasMIDFWD
Mitchell HibberdPNL ReindeersDEF
Mitchell HingeNew Delhi TigersDEF
Mitchell LewisDublin DestroyersFWD
Myles PoholkeCairo SandsMIDFWD
Nakia CockatooNew Delhi TigersFWD
Nat FyfeBerlin BrewersMID
Nathan BroadBeijing ThunderDEF
Nathan BrownNo ClubDEF
Nathan DrummondCape Town CobrasFWD
Nathan FreemanSeoul MagpiesMID
Nathan HrovatPacific IslandersFWD
Nathan JonesBerlin BrewersMID
Nathan Mullenger-McHughNo ClubFWD
Nathan MurphyPacific IslandersDEFFWD
Nathan VardyTokyo SamuraiRUC
Nathan WilsonChristchurch SaintsDEF
Nathan WrightNo ClubFWD
Neville JettaLondon RoyalsDEF
Nic NaitanuiToronto WolvesRUC
Nic NewmanMexico City SunsMID
Nicholas CoffieldBuenos Aires ArmadillosDEFMID
Nicholas ShipleyToronto WolvesMID
Nick GrahamMoscow SpetsnazMIDFWD
Nick HaynesSeoul MagpiesDEF
Nick HolmanDublin DestroyersMID
Nick LarkeyRio de Janeiro JaguarsFWD
Nick RobertsonToronto WolvesDEF
Nick SmithRio de Janeiro JaguarsDEF
Nick VlastuinCairo SandsDEF
Noah BaltaDublin DestroyersRUCFWD
Oleg MarkovCairo SandsDEF
Oliver FlorentBuenos Aires ArmadillosFWD
Oliver HanrahanCairo SandsFWD
Ollie WinesBeijing ThunderMID
Orazio FantasiaLondon RoyalsFWD
Oscar AllenPNL ReindeersFWD
Oscar ClavarinoSeoul MagpiesDEF
Oscar JunkerCape Town CobrasMID
Oscar McDonaldDublin DestroyersDEF
Oscar McInerneyNew Delhi TigersRUC
Oskar BakerBerlin BrewersFWD
Paddy DowBuenos Aires ArmadillosMID
Paddy McCartinNew Delhi TigersFWD
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on December 07, 2017, 07:56:23 PM
Full NameWXV ClubPOS1POS2
Patrick AmbroseNo ClubDEF
Patrick CrippsRio de Janeiro JaguarsMID
Patrick DangerfieldSeoul MagpiesMID
Patrick KerrTokyo SamuraiFWD
Patrick LipinskiMoscow SpetsnazMIDFWD
Patrick McKennaNo ClubDEF
Patrick NaishMoscow SpetsnazMIDFWD
Patrick RyderNew York RevolutionRUC
Patrick WilsonDrafteeMIDFWD
Paul AhernPacific IslandersMIDFWD
Paul HunterPacific IslandersRUC
Paul PuopoloCairo SandsFWD
Paul SeedsmanPNL ReindeersDEFMID
Pearce HanleyNew York RevolutionDEFMID
Peter LadhamsPacific IslandersFWD
Peter WrightToronto WolvesFWD
Phil DavisPNL ReindeersDEF
Quinton NarkleNo ClubMID
Ray ConnellanDublin DestroyersFWD
Reece ConcaNew York RevolutionDEF
Reilly O'BrienBuenos Aires ArmadillosRUC
Rhys MathiesonLondon RoyalsMIDFWD
Rhys StanleyPacific IslandersRUCFWD
Richard DouglasNew York RevolutionMID
Ricky HendersonCairo SandsMID
Riley BonnerBuenos Aires ArmadillosDEF
Riley KnightNew Delhi TigersFWD
Roarke SmithBeijing ThunderFWD
Robbie FoxToronto WolvesMID
Robbie GrayNew Delhi TigersFWD
Robbie TarrantNew York RevolutionDEF
Rohan BewickNo ClubMIDFWD
Rory AtkinsTokyo SamuraiMID
Rory LairdPacific IslandersDEF
Rory LobbCairo SandsFWD
Rory SloaneDublin DestroyersMID
Rory ThompsonSeoul MagpiesDEF
Rowan MarshallMoscow SpetsnazFWD
Rupert WillsChristchurch SaintsMID
Ryan AbbottNo ClubRUC
Ryan BastinacBerlin BrewersMID
Ryan BurrowsDrafteeFWD
Ryan BurtonMoscow SpetsnazDEF
Ryan ClarkeToronto WolvesDEF
Ryan GardnerDublin DestroyersDEF
Ryan GarthwaiteMoscow SpetsnazDEF
Ryan GriffenChristchurch SaintsMID
Ryan LesterLondon RoyalsMIDFWD
Ryan NyhuisPNL ReindeersDEFFWD
Ryan SchoenmakersMexico City SunsFWD
Ryley StoddartSeoul MagpiesDEF
Sam B ReidNew York RevolutionFWD
Sam DayPacific IslandersFWD
Sam DochertyMoscow SpetsnazDEF
Sam DraperBuenos Aires ArmadillosRUC
Sam DurdinDublin DestroyersDEF
Sam FrostBerlin BrewersDEF
Sam GibsonPacific IslandersMID
Sam GilbertNew York RevolutionDEF
Sam GrayLondon RoyalsFWD
Sam HayesLondon RoyalsRUCFWD
Sam J ReidRio de Janeiro JaguarsFWD
Sam JacobsMoscow SpetsnazRUC
Sam KerridgeCairo SandsMID
Sam LloydTokyo SamuraiFWD
Sam MayesBeijing ThunderDEF
Sam McLartyMexico City SunsDEF
Sam MenegolaNew Delhi TigersMIDFWD
Sam MurrayNew Delhi TigersDEF
Sam NaismithPNL ReindeersRUC
Sam Petrevski-SetonMoscow SpetsnazMIDFWD
Sam Powell-PepperTokyo SamuraiMID
Sam RoweNo ClubDEF
Sam SimpsonNew Delhi TigersFWD
Sam SkinnerNo ClubDEFFWD
Sam SwitkowskiBeijing ThunderFWD
Sam TaylorNew Delhi TigersDEF
Sam WeidemanMoscow SpetsnazFWD
Sam WrightMexico City SunsDEF
Scott D ThompsonToronto WolvesDEF
Scott JonesPacific IslandersRUC
Scott LycettTokyo SamuraiRUC
Scott PendleburyToronto WolvesMID
Scott SelwoodNew Delhi TigersMID
Sean DarcyChristchurch SaintsRUC
Sean LemmensRio de Janeiro JaguarsDEFFWD
Sebastian RossTokyo SamuraiMID
Shai BoltonMoscow SpetsnazFWD
Shane BiggsBuenos Aires ArmadillosDEF
Shane EdwardsBuenos Aires ArmadillosMIDFWD
Shane KerstenCairo SandsFWD
Shane SavageCairo SandsDEF
Shannon HurnNew York RevolutionDEF
Shaun AtleyBuenos Aires ArmadillosFWD
Shaun BurgoyneLondon RoyalsMID
Shaun GriggMoscow SpetsnazMID
Shaun HampsonCape Town CobrasRUC
Shaun HigginsNew York RevolutionMID
Shaun McKernanRio de Janeiro JaguarsRUCFWD
Steele SidebottomNew Delhi TigersMID
Stefan GiroDrafteeMID
Stefan MartinNew Delhi TigersRUC
Stephen ConiglioMoscow SpetsnazMID
Stephen HillDublin DestroyersMID
Steven MayDublin DestroyersDEF
Steven MotlopPacific IslandersMID
Stewart CrameriToronto WolvesFWD
Tarir BayokRio de Janeiro JaguarsMIDFWD
Taylin DumanToronto WolvesDEF
Taylor AdamsCairo SandsMID
Taylor DuryeaSeoul MagpiesDEFFWD
Taylor GarnerCape Town CobrasFWD
Taylor WalkerBeijing ThunderFWD
Teia MilesNew York RevolutionDEFFWD
Thomas BarrassMoscow SpetsnazDEF
Thomas ColeToronto WolvesDEF
Thomas MurphyDrafteeDEFMID
Tim BroomheadNew Delhi TigersMID
Tim KellyToronto WolvesMID
Tim MembreyLondon RoyalsFWD
Tim MohrNo ClubDEF
Tim O'BrienMexico City SunsFWD
Tim TarantoRio de Janeiro JaguarsMIDFWD
Timm HouseTokyo SamuraiFWD
Timothy EnglishLondon RoyalsRUCFWD
Timothy SmithTokyo SamuraiFWD
Toby GreeneSeoul MagpiesFWD
Toby McLeanChristchurch SaintsMIDFWD
Toby NankervisCape Town CobrasRUC
Toby PinkDublin DestroyersFWD
Toby WoollerNew Delhi TigersFWD
Todd GoldsteinDublin DestroyersRUC
Todd MarshallRio de Janeiro JaguarsFWD
Tom BellMoscow SpetsnazFWD
Tom BellchambersRio de Janeiro JaguarsRUC
Tom BoydChristchurch SaintsRUC
Tom CampbellPNL ReindeersRUC
Tom ClureyBeijing ThunderDEF
Tom CutlerBeijing ThunderDEF
Tom De KoningRio de Janeiro JaguarsRUCFWD
Tom DoedeeBuenos Aires ArmadillosDEF
Tom HawkinsDublin DestroyersFWD
Tom HickeyMexico City SunsRUC
Tom J LynchSeoul MagpiesFWD
Tom JeffriesNo ClubRUC
Tom JonasBeijing ThunderDEF
Tom LangdonChristchurch SaintsDEF
Tom LiberatoreChristchurch SaintsMID
Tom McCartinNew Delhi TigersFWD
Tom McDonaldDublin DestroyersDEFFWD
Tom MitchellPacific IslandersMID
Tom NichollsBuenos Aires ArmadillosRUC
Tom NorthTokyo SamuraiMID
Tom PapleyCape Town CobrasMIDFWD
Tom PhillipsTokyo SamuraiMID
Tom RockliffBeijing ThunderMID
Tom ScullyChristchurch SaintsMID
Tom StewartCairo SandsDEF
Tom T LynchLondon RoyalsFWD
Tom WilliamsonBeijing ThunderDEF
Tomas BuggMoscow SpetsnazFWD
Tommy SheridanPNL ReindeersDEF
Tony OlangoDrafteeRUC
Tory DicksonChristchurch SaintsFWD
Touk MillerCape Town CobrasMID
Travis BoakToronto WolvesMIDFWD
Travis ColyerCairo SandsMIDFWD
Travis VarcoeSeoul MagpiesDEFFWD
Trent CotchinTokyo SamuraiMID
Trent DumontBuenos Aires ArmadillosMID
Trent McKenzieNew Delhi TigersDEF
Trent MynottDrafteeMID
Tristan XerriDrafteeRUC
Ty VickeryNo ClubFWD
Tyler BrownChristchurch SaintsMIDFWD
Tyson GoldsackMexico City SunsDEF
Tyson StengleBeijing ThunderFWD
Wayne MileraRio de Janeiro JaguarsMIDFWD
Wil PowellBeijing ThunderMIDFWD
Will BrodiePNL ReindeersRUC
Will HaywardBuenos Aires ArmadillosFWD
Will Hoskin-ElliottTokyo SamuraiMID
Will LangfordLondon RoyalsMIDFWD
Will SchofieldCape Town CobrasDEF
Will SetterfieldSeoul MagpiesMIDFWD
Will SnellingCairo SandsMID
Will WalkerChristchurch SaintsMID
Willem DrewLondon RoyalsMID
William FramptonPacific IslandersRUCFWD
Willie RioliSeoul MagpiesFWD
Wylie BuzzaCairo SandsRUCFWD
Zac BaileyChristchurch SaintsMID
Zac FisherSeoul MagpiesFWD
Zac Giles-LangdonNew York RevolutionFWD
Zac SmithTokyo SamuraiRUC
Zac WilliamsTokyo SamuraiDEF
Zach GuthrieCape Town CobrasDEF
Zach MerrettPNL ReindeersMID
Zach SprouleBuenos Aires ArmadillosFWD
Zach TuohySeoul MagpiesDEF
Zaine CordyRio de Janeiro JaguarsDEF
Zak JonesBerlin BrewersMID
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on December 07, 2017, 09:44:25 PM
They are taking the flowering piss surely if they are naming Charlie Curnow as MID only WTF
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on December 07, 2017, 10:10:36 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 07, 2017, 09:44:25 PM
They are taking the flowering piss surely if they are naming Charlie Curnow as MID only WTF

ahh, probably my bad.

I'd say 98% of them are right :P

Curnow is pure FWD
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on December 07, 2017, 10:10:49 PM
Ed and Charlie’s switched round wrong way is all
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on December 07, 2017, 10:12:28 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on December 07, 2017, 10:10:49 PM
Ed and Charlie’s switched round wrong way is all

yes that's right, watch out for players with the same last name, that play for the same team...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on December 07, 2017, 10:33:41 PM
What are you doing to me Purps haha
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on December 08, 2017, 12:32:26 AM
Very very very nice work here Purple! :-*

Thanks so much for this!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on December 21, 2017, 05:33:01 PM
(https://imgur.com/AWO4rA8.png)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on December 21, 2017, 05:38:37 PM
Hahahahahaha
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on December 21, 2017, 07:09:07 PM
that damn heat map making me look like an idiot... :P #zakjonesragegettingbetterofme

I feel that 20,000 characters message so god damn much

Hilarious :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on January 12, 2018, 10:28:19 AM
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/ben-griffiths-drops-afl-career-to-take-up-us-scholarship-and-chase-american-football-punting-career/news-story/77c7bc6d63a3c258fc673fc5e92dbd2e (https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/ben-griffiths-drops-afl-career-to-take-up-us-scholarship-and-chase-american-football-punting-career/news-story/77c7bc6d63a3c258fc673fc5e92dbd2e)

Trade 57
Cape Town trade: Nakia Cockatoo
New Dehli trade: Ben Griffiths + Pick 40

Logged on for the first time in 8 months because the third trade made after I left Cape Town still haunts me
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on January 12, 2018, 10:51:22 AM
Lol, hello again MC!

GL, shame.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on January 12, 2018, 02:49:47 PM
At least it was better than the Tyson trade haha

N40 was used to get N21, which was used to get N17. Logue > Cockatoo so I'm still happy with it.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on January 14, 2018, 07:37:56 PM
WXV Thoughts

Alright so I just saw this: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-01-13/the-jurys-out-your-clubs-biggest-question-mark-in-2018

So I have now decided to create a WXV inspired one. It'll be very simple and will take a similar format to when I do the "WXV Superlatives (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,110206.msg1894917.html#msg1894917)" Basically I'll be sending a PM to every coach in WXV and all you have to do is make a brief comment/thought/question you have about each team. Once all of the responses have been answered I shall post them up here for discussion.

Of course for the sake of morale ALL RESPONSES WILL BE CONFIDENTIAL! And not all responses will be used.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on January 15, 2018, 07:37:49 PM
So of these are absolutely ripper to read!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on January 17, 2018, 03:26:04 PM
Get your replies in quick peeps! I've got about half so far.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on January 22, 2018, 05:22:34 PM
So Kurt Tippet just retired  :'(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on January 22, 2018, 05:23:43 PM
Should change my response to Levi

#NoKurtNoNewYork
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on January 22, 2018, 05:25:14 PM
Quote from: GoLions on January 22, 2018, 05:23:43 PM
Should change my response to Levi

#NoKurtNoNewYork

Nah, doesn't have the same ring to it as Libba  :P

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: AaronKirk on January 22, 2018, 05:28:08 PM
What a disappointment he has been for us.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on January 22, 2018, 05:28:59 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 22, 2018, 05:25:14 PM
Quote from: GoLions on January 22, 2018, 05:23:43 PM
Should change my response to Levi

#NoKurtNoNewYork

Nah, doesn't have the same ring to it as Libba  :P
This is true, it was painful to type out tbh
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Adamant on January 22, 2018, 05:32:10 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 22, 2018, 05:22:34 PM
So Kurt Tippet just retired  :'(

Should have traded him to me when you had the chance!

He could have joined Belly as an injury prone big guy turning 29 who's 13 games last year is his best effort in the last 3 seasons.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on January 22, 2018, 06:25:00 PM
Quote from: Adamant on January 22, 2018, 05:32:10 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 22, 2018, 05:22:34 PM
So Kurt Tippet just retired  :'(

Should have traded him to me when you had the chance!

He could have joined Belly as an injury prone big guy turning 29 who's 13 games last year is his best effort in the last 3 seasons.

I was waiting for you and Zander to say that ;)

We had to keep him as ruck cover, but now it's Paddy or bust

Ah well, who cares!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: iZander on January 22, 2018, 06:49:11 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 22, 2018, 06:25:00 PM
Quote from: Adamant on January 22, 2018, 05:32:10 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 22, 2018, 05:22:34 PM
So Kurt Tippet just retired  :'(

Should have traded him to me when you had the chance!

He could have joined Belly as an injury prone big guy turning 29 who's 13 games last year is his best effort in the last 3 seasons.

I was waiting for you and Zander to say that ;)

We had to keep him as ruck cover, but now it's Paddy or bust

Ah well, who cares!
i was too slow  :'(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on January 22, 2018, 07:48:43 PM
RIP...  :'( :'(

(https://imgur.com/LPPWCY1.png)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on January 22, 2018, 09:52:33 PM
I thought the Levi reply was what we’ve all been waiting for.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on January 22, 2018, 11:22:49 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on January 22, 2018, 07:48:43 PM
RIP...  :'( :'(

(https://imgur.com/LPPWCY1.png)

Your point?  ::)

If he was fit, I'm confident he would have been there R1 but alas, ol Tippo just couldn't get his body right  :'(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on January 23, 2018, 01:22:32 PM
Writing was on the wall for (Just The) Tipp. Younger players playing in his spot, body telling him it wasn't worth going around again!

Timing was very weird though in truth
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on January 24, 2018, 12:31:43 AM
Quote from: Levi434 on January 14, 2018, 07:37:56 PM
WXV Thoughts

Alright so I just saw this: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-01-13/the-jurys-out-your-clubs-biggest-question-mark-in-2018

So I have now decided to create a WXV inspired one. It'll be very simple and will take a similar format to when I do the "WXV Superlatives (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,110206.msg1894917.html#msg1894917)" Basically I'll be sending a PM to every coach in WXV and all you have to do is make a brief comment/thought/question you have about each team. Once all of the responses have been answered I shall post them up here for discussion.

Of course for the sake of morale ALL RESPONSES WILL BE CONFIDENTIAL! And not all responses will be used.

Last call to get these in!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on January 29, 2018, 02:14:14 PM
Sorry about the delay lads my internet has been cooked in the past week...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on January 30, 2018, 06:21:26 PM
WXV Thoughts
Part 1 of 6

Disclaimer: Once again Levi takes no responsibility for any feelings hurt.



Beijing Thunder:

- "No wonder they aren't called the Beijing Lightening, they are all noise and no show."

- "Dammit, I try to get to all your player interests but throwing me somebody averaging higher than 65 would be appreciated!"

- "Rockliff or Flopliff? Can he be the difference?"

- "Let's talk about their horrific treatment of the prince himself, Heritier Lumumba."

- "Year-long Grundy cameo resented by all."


Berlin Brewers:

- "Have loaded up for another tilt at the flag but that backline has to be a concern. If unsuccessful, are they going to be another Mexico City once 2018 is done and dusted?"

- "Is Purple's love for Dees getting a bit unhealthy? *cough* Jake Leaver *cough*"

- "Can they go all the way without scrapping the cap?"

- "How much brew could a brewer brew if a brewer could brew brew?"

- "More like the Olden Brewers, amirite."


Buenos Aires Armadillos:

- "Harley Bennell. Will the faith that the coach has shown in him pay off?"

- "How long till Meow demands compo for giving away Dow, Cerra and Brayshaw?"

- "Who the FLOWER is gonna captain this side?!"

- "Rumour has it that they have 2 coaches. Could easily do twice as well in 2018"

- "I bet they wish they had Parker right now."
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on January 30, 2018, 06:35:42 PM
Some of these are actually pretty funny!  ;D

We want more!  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on January 30, 2018, 07:39:26 PM
LMAO

I particular lol'd at my third one :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on January 30, 2018, 08:03:45 PM
WXV Thoughts
Part 2 of 6

Disclaimer: Once again Levi takes no responsibility for any feelings hurt.



Cairo Sands:

- "Worst co-coaches in the competition hands down."

- "Has the coach been unlucky or is he just not very good?"

- "Midfielders maketh the Mumford. Now the Sands have neither."

- "When will the heads came out of the sands?"

- "At what point do they realise they dont have a ruck?"


Cape Town Cobras:

- "Infrequent reminder that Dave's first year in charge resulted in Kate Upton losing the African Cup for the first time."

- "Pittard or showertard? Can he return to form?"

- "Chumps is fiery that GoLoins has ruined his previously trade-cheating-enhanced squad."

- "I feel like the players are dogged by the coach."

- "Griffiths a huge blow to their finals aspirations for 2018."


Christchurch Saints:

- "Will Ryan Griffen finally prove he is better than Dayne Zorko? #compo"

- "Is there such a thing as club loyalty for players anymore?!
Although Meow does live by the motto, go hard or go home. Bold strategist, which didn't pay off year 1, but could it this year? Doubt it :P."

- "Will they have enough walking frames to get 15 players out on the park each week and how will the first Grand Father, Grand Son combo of Sandi Darcy work. That sad moment when your nickname is 211 and people think its because of your age not your height."

- "When will this compo thing go away?"

- "I wonder if meow has a Luke Parker blow-up doll?"
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on January 30, 2018, 08:16:01 PM
These are fantastic.

And Worlds goes BANG at Cairo :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on January 30, 2018, 08:23:44 PM
Taking shots at Cairo is like kicking a puppy. You monsters!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on January 30, 2018, 08:29:50 PM
- "Will Ryan Griffen finally prove he is better than Dayne Zorko? #compo"
421 average coming up this year.

- "Is there such a thing as club loyalty for players anymore?!
Although Meow does live by the motto, go hard or go home. Bold strategist, which didn't pay off year 1, but could it this year? Doubt it :P."
Gibbs, Sandi... Griff. Need to get Higgins back somehow.
I was playing the long game and it kind of did pay off in year 1. Might not have instantly reaped the rewards but getting McLean, Steele, Andrews, Lever, ANB and DVR and cashing them in for guns after a couple of years is mostly paying off. Plus the Champs League trophy.


- "Will they have enough walking frames to get 15 players out on the park each week and how will the first Grand Father, Grand Son combo of Sandi Darcy work. That sad moment when your nickname is 211 and people think its because of your age not your height."
Mason Cox isn't that old, plus he doesn't play for 'Church anymore.
Sandi will only last 5 weeks and Sean will average 105 from that point onwards.

- "When will this compo thing go away?"
When I get it!

- "I wonder if meow has a Luke Parker blow-up doll?"
Tell me where I can get one. NOW.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on January 30, 2018, 09:03:14 PM
WXV Thoughts
Part 3 of 6

Disclaimer: Once again Levi takes no responsibility for any feelings hurt.



Dublin Destroyers:

- "When will Holz admit that Todd Goldstein is a B grader?"

- "Birchall, Goldstein, Deledio, Crows mids with Gibbs coming in. Severe lack of backline and midfield depth. We know that the coach will be as confident as ever, but will they be in for a rude awakening in 2018?"

- "Turns out Destroyers can still navigate with no depth below."

- "Overrated. Apart from the midfield they are a very average side."

- "Holy shower. My mom came into my room to bring me a plate of chicken nuggets and I literally screamed at her and hit the plate of chicken nuggets out of her hand. She started yelling and swearing at me and I slammed the door on her. I'm so distressed right now I don't know what to do. I didn't mean to do that to my mom but I'm literally in shock from the results tonight. I feel like I'm going to explode. Why the flowering flower are they winning? This can't be happening. I'm having a flowering breakdown. I don't want to believe the world is so corrupt. I want a future to believe in. I want Purple 77 to be president and fix this broken competition. I cannot flowering deal with this right now. It wasn't supposed to be like this, I thought Dublin was supposed to eventually decline???? This is so flowered."


London Royals:

- "Hmmm :-\ It's gonna be a long couple of years"

- "Which Christchurch "Ruck" will be on this list next year?"

- "Dane Rampe for Shaun Burgoyne and James Cousins was an interesting trade for a team looking to rebuild, will it pay off?"

- "I'm willing to pay the ransom on Jack HigGOAT, I'll do anything you want, just don't hurt my baby."

- "If you can name 2 players from their stating XV that's an achievement."


Mexico City Suns:

- "Ignores trade offers, gets back to you after they traded the player, feels sad, they act nice and you're all good again. Repeat."

- "I'd be surprised if this Weitering-led side are anything but cellar dwellers for the next decade."

- "Dat moment when Worlds isn't as fun when you're no longer winning."

- "Huge rebuild taking place, have they gone about it the right way though...?

- "Is that seriously an attempt at a rebuild?"

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on January 30, 2018, 09:14:18 PM
Geez Mexico got brutalised!

This one made me LMAO "If you can name 2 players from their stating XV that's an achievement."  ;D

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on January 30, 2018, 09:25:05 PM
WXV Thoughts
Part 4 of 6

Disclaimer: Once again Levi takes no responsibility for any feelings hurt.



Moscow Spetsnaz:

- "Kreuzer, Scharenberg, now Docherty. What do they feed their knees in Russia?

- "At what point in the season do Moscow regret moving on NN, JOM and going with Kreuz, Round 1 or can it last to Round 2?"

- "They should stop making excuses about their injuries."

- "Can the Spetsnaz stave off all forces this year?"

- "my dad owns a worlds team

i make more money in 1 min than you do in your life lol

i walk into the discord and people stop typing and clap

flower you for being to selfish to help me

and i was going to pay you lol

2 bad now

i guess you dont get any of ur precous money"


New Delhi Tigers:

- "Premiership Favourites alongside Seoul, but if Stef and Lion rucks underperform, could hurt them into the season. Could this become #NoStefiNoDehli ?"

- "The biggest luck pot going around."

- "Will Purp allow for Sam Menegola's touches in the VFL to count for WXV points?
Will they be the first team in WXV history to both get Mac'd and Crouched"

- "How many trades have NDT won by a mile?"

- "I preferred Nude Ele."


New York Revolution:

- "Hanley, Hurn, Tarrant, Henderson, Lewis, Greenwood, Douglas, Ryder, JJK, Roughy, Betts - boy o boy, loving the future prospects of this mob!"

Are they contending for a premiership or planning for the future? they don't seem to be doing either particularly well."

- "Have neglected youth for the past few seasons to stay in the top 4-8 conversation and it didn't pay off. They've now sacrificed their firepower to finally bring in some kids."

- "If you fold their list with Mexico they would still comfortably finish last. Especially without Libba."

- "What the flower did you just flowering say about me, you little dog? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Simpson-Worsfold school of coaching, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on various WXV teams, and I have over 300 confirmed trades. I am trained in WXVs coaching and I’m the top coach in the World XVs competition. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the flower out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my flowering words. You think you can get away with saying that shower to me over the Internet? Think again, flowerer. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re flowering dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can outcoach you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my basic knowledge. Not only am I extensively trained in WXVs coaching, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shower. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your flowering tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shower fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re flowering dead, kiddo."

- "I thought Trump was delusional. The NY coaches arguably just as bad."
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on January 30, 2018, 09:42:53 PM
What the hell is that massive slab of gibberish?  :o

As for the other comments, probably made by coaches who will finish below us anyway :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on January 30, 2018, 09:51:11 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 30, 2018, 09:42:53 PM
What the hell is that massive slab of gibberish?  :o
Supposedly a recorded New York co-coach outburst according to sources. :o
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on January 30, 2018, 10:15:13 PM
WXV Thoughts
Part 5 of 6

Disclaimer: Once again Levi takes no responsibility for any feelings hurt.



Pacific Islanders:

- "Team: I'll give you the Earth for Bont, Pacific: Naaaaaah I don't think so."

- "Needs something added. Like your best player."

- "If Jed Lamb is their best player by season's end, we should close down WXVs and all delete our accounts."

- "My bold prediction of the year: Jed Lamb to lead the Islanders to a flag in 2018. Whether it's a WXVs premiership flag, or a red and yellow beach flag, who knows."

- "If this was World XIII's they would be the Premiership favourites. D3-D4, M4-M6 and F3-F4 amongst the worst in the comp."


PNL Reindeers:

- "Sons of Purple, of WXVs. My brothers. I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me! The year may come, when the stubbornness of PNL fails, when they forsake their list and break all bonds of fellowship by trading one of their young players away, but it is not this year! An hour of wolves and shattered reindeers when the age of PNL comes crashing down! But it is not this year! This year they hold their trades! By all those on their list that they hold dear in this good comp, i bid you, stand, reindeers of the west!"

- "We are nice and fair, we just like winning trades."

- "How will the reindeers pull up after their Hectic Christmas schedule?"

- "I remember when PNL had a list to compete with Berlin. Lol, jk, they never did."

- "I'm Hellopplz, and this is my WXVs team. I coach here with my old friend and lifelong buddy, DazBurg. Everyone in our team has a story and a price. One thing I've learned after 7 years - you never know what is gonna come into your inbox."


Rio de Janeiro Jaguars:

- "Have made a complete overhaul of their list in search of sustained success and now have an abundance of quality youth. I think they will surprise a few next year."

- "Would like to see a bit more involvement from their head coach in 2018, some people would kill for a WXVs coaching position."

- "Is Levi actually Ben Jacobs?"

- "To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Levi434. His humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer’s head. There’s also Levi’s nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realise that they’re not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Levi434 truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn’t appreciate, for instance, the humour in Levi’s existential catchphrase “#whobetterthanbenjacobs” which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev’s Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I’m smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Levi434’s genius wit unfolds itself in WXVs threads. What fools.. how I pity them.

And yes, by the way, Levi DOES have a Ben Jacobs tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It’s for the ladies’ eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they’re within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kids.

- "Probably the most risk taken by former Premiers trusting in a vast amount of youth... In for the long term."
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on January 30, 2018, 10:22:38 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on January 30, 2018, 10:15:13 PM
PNL Reindeers:

- "Sons of Purple, of WXVs. My brothers. I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me! The year may come, when the stubbornness of PNL fails, when they forsake their list and break all bonds of fellowship by trading one of their young players away, but it is not this year! An hour of wolves and shattered reindeers when the age of PNL comes crashing down! But it is not this year! This year they hold their trades! By all those on their list that they hold dear in this good comp, i bid you, stand, reindeers of the west!"

Close the forum down, because anything posted from now on will just take it downhill.

That was an amazing comment haha
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on January 30, 2018, 10:23:55 PM
Yeah nice Levi. These are a great read! :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on January 30, 2018, 10:25:19 PM
For those who weren't online at the time, some quality commentary/reactions on Discord that you should read :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on January 30, 2018, 10:25:55 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on January 30, 2018, 10:23:55 PM
Yeah nice Levi. These are a great read! :)

The highlight of the off-season!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on January 30, 2018, 10:34:47 PM
That coach knows XIII is 13, and not 8, yeah?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on January 30, 2018, 10:44:20 PM
WXV Thoughts
Part 6 of 6

Disclaimer: Once again Levi takes no responsibility for any feelings hurt.



Seoul Magpies:

- "The quietest arrogant team going around."

- "I saw JBs-Hawks at a grocery store in Adelaide yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything. He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?” I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying. The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter. When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly."

- "How many teams will be pecked by magpies this year?"

- "The Zac Snyder of Worlds?"

- "Does JB even have a Seoul?"


Tokyo Samurai:

- "I wonder if some point in this team's history they can actually do something so I can come up with a Decent question."

- "Will they ever become relevant?"

- "Tim Smith, Bayley Fritsch and Round 1, 2016. I have nothing nice to say about this team."

- "Surprised many during the off-season, with at least 4 days of activity, if not 5."

- ".......Bueller.......


Toronto Wolves:

- "Scary if starting team fires, but may lack the depth if some injuries hit to key stars. Like a pack of wolves. Strong together, but if a few of the top dogs fall in form (NicNat, Pendles, Blakely, Macrae), they may get ravaged."

- "The kind of team in a zombie apocalypse that sneaks on top of a rooftop with you at the last second, and shoots you in the face to live another week."

- "Probably needed to be more active in the trade period, still some weaknesses to their list."

- "Being nice, when knowing they're gonna shower over the comp in 2k18"

- "Now usually I don't do this but uh
Go head' on and break 'em off wit a lil' previews of the remix

No I'm not gonna trade with you
Because your demands are pretty crude
And we can't do a 4-for-2
Since that damn cap impedes you
So why you all up in my grill
With some players you wanna sell
You must be a WXVs coach
The way you posting them deals

So Ada give me your captain
Let me give you that sweetener
Runnin' his offers through my PMs
Sweating on Trade 24
While they saying in the thread

It's the WXVs trading season
Trades fresh out the kitchen
Ada posting them trades
Got every coach in here wishin'
That they had his team
Like they livin' the dream
It's the trade season baby
I'm about to get deals done

Okay, so that lst bit starting from "Now usually" is for Toronto Wolves
Apologies for the mess and confusion haha"
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on January 30, 2018, 10:53:36 PM
"Okay, so that lst bit starting from "Now usually" is for Toronto Wolves
Apologies for the mess and confusion haha""

GOD DAMN IT LEVI.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on January 30, 2018, 11:25:39 PM
 "I'm Hellopplz, and this is my WXVs team. I coach here with my old friend and lifelong buddy, DazBurg. Everyone in our team has a story and a price. One thing I've learned after 7 years - you never know what is gonna come into your inbox."

Absolute quality  ;D

Props to whoever my fellow Pawn Stars fan is  8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on January 31, 2018, 12:00:32 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 30, 2018, 11:25:39 PM
"I'm Hellopplz, and this is my WXVs team. I coach here with my old friend and lifelong buddy, DazBurg. Everyone in our team has a story and a price. One thing I've learned after 7 years - you never know what is gonna come into your inbox."

Absolute quality  ;D

Props to whoever my fellow Pawn Stars fan is  8)
8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Adamant on January 31, 2018, 12:51:00 AM
Very good!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on January 31, 2018, 08:38:30 AM
Definitely showertard. Why do you think I got Aaron 'Docherty' Mullett?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on January 31, 2018, 10:41:18 AM
in light of Nige's comment, new year new motto

Dublin - The Nightmare That Never Ends

(http://fearworld.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/The-Nightmares.jpg)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on January 31, 2018, 05:33:29 PM
^ You could just quit if having such a pie team is giving you nightmares.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on January 31, 2018, 05:53:36 PM
new year, new motto, still pie
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on January 31, 2018, 06:18:34 PM
Quote from: meow meow on January 31, 2018, 05:33:29 PM
^ You could just quit if having such a pie team is giving you nightmares.

Its not me who is having the nightmare its Nige/other coaches

and

Quote from: Ricochet on January 31, 2018, 05:53:36 PM
new year, new motto, still pie

Yep new year, new motto, still PremIErs
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on January 31, 2018, 07:36:28 PM
Yesterday was really nice with the chat on discord and the thoughts going up. We should have more hang out and chat times like that. Hanging with you lads is great fun! We've got some real great personalities around these parts. Plus I'd do anything to get away from my crazy ex-wife Madeline...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on January 31, 2018, 07:48:15 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on January 31, 2018, 07:36:28 PM
Yesterday was really nice with the chat on discord and the thoughts going up. We should have more hang out and chat times like that. Hanging with you lads is great fun! We've got some real great personalities around these parts. Plus I'd do anything to get away from my crazy ex-wife Madeline...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on January 31, 2018, 09:27:31 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on January 31, 2018, 07:48:15 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on January 31, 2018, 07:36:28 PM
Yesterday was really nice with the chat on discord and the thoughts going up. We should have more hang out and chat times like that. Hanging with you lads is great fun! We've got some real great personalities around these parts. Plus I'd do anything to get away from my crazy ex-wife Madeline...
I wonder if your crazy ex-wives are the same person or just a coincidence
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on January 31, 2018, 09:57:59 PM
Quote from: GoLions on January 31, 2018, 09:27:31 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on January 31, 2018, 07:48:15 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on January 31, 2018, 07:36:28 PM
Yesterday was really nice with the chat on discord and the thoughts going up. We should have more hang out and chat times like that. Hanging with you lads is great fun! We've got some real great personalities around these parts. Plus I'd do anything to get away from my crazy ex-wife Madeline...
I wonder if your crazy ex-wives are the same person or just a coincidence

ha
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on February 03, 2018, 06:14:39 PM
It's time for a quick scorecheck as to how the offseason WXV SC is tracking:



(https://imgur.com/WlGle5W.png)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on February 03, 2018, 06:16:59 PM
There is so much humour in that post, I don't know where to begin :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on February 03, 2018, 06:22:24 PM
Hahah Holz on report ;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on February 03, 2018, 06:22:58 PM
Blue Moon for MajorLazer. Quality when posting :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Adamant on February 03, 2018, 06:28:40 PM
Levi are you secretly Alex Rance?

13 clangers for Holz seems a little low.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on February 03, 2018, 06:34:49 PM
TOG might drop now that I've started working haha
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on February 03, 2018, 06:35:42 PM
Is the knock I copped the blow from the 'thoughts' reveal?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on February 03, 2018, 07:12:06 PM
Quote from: Adamant on February 03, 2018, 06:28:40 PM
Levi are you secretly Alex Rance?

No I'm just Levi who is bad at computars and is still in love with my crazy ex-wife Madeline. I would love to be a male model as good looking as Rance though. Just imagine how hard and strong his body must be?

Quote from: Adamant on February 03, 2018, 06:28:40 PM
13 clangers for Holz seems a little low.

Everything here is stats based. Don't doubt the Holz.

Quote from: GoLions on February 03, 2018, 06:34:49 PM
TOG might drop now that I've started working haha

TOG actually refers to how many pages I had to go back on your profile until it reached the 28th of August 2017. So the TOG is based on posts not time.

Quote from: Nige on February 03, 2018, 06:35:42 PM
Is the knock I copped the blow from the 'thoughts' reveal?

Possibly. Although I think that blow worsened the never ending concussion that you sustained throughout the trade period.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on February 03, 2018, 07:45:51 PM
WXVW Vacant Coaching Position!

We only need one more coach! The sooner someone signs up the better the comp will be! The season is very short and will be done by the time AFL kicks off so it's fun!

The team list is as follows:
1. Emma King (R)
2. Sabrina Frederick-Traub (F/R)
3. Ebony Marinoff (M)
4. Bianca Jakobsson (F)
5. Nicole Hildebrand (B)
6. Caitlyn Edwards (B)
7. Tiah Haynes (M)
8. Bree White (M/F)
9. Hannah Scott (M)
10. Melissa Caulfield (F/M)
11. Jasmine Garner (F)
12. Penny Cula-Reid (B)
13. Britt Tully (M)
14. Sarah Last (B)
15. Demi Okley (M/F)
16. Katherine Smith (M)
17. Tayla Bresland (B)
18. Jess Gardner (F/B)
19. Katie Loynes (M)
20. Selina Goodman (M)
21. Ruby Schleicher (R)
22. Melissa Kuys (M)
23. Nat Exon (M)
24. Kendra Heil (M/F)
25. Caitlin Collins (B)
26. Sophie Casey (F)
27. Rebecca Neaves (M)

National Picks:
3, 11, 19, 27, 35, 43, 51, 59, 7th rounder*, 8th rounder*

PM Levi ASAP if interested!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on February 03, 2018, 09:57:03 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on February 03, 2018, 07:12:06 PM
Quote from: Nige on February 03, 2018, 06:35:42 PM
Is the knock I copped the blow from the 'thoughts' reveal?

Possibly. Although I think that blow worsened the never ending concussion that you sustained throughout the trade period.
Might as well give me the tombstone after that.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: fanTCfool on February 18, 2018, 07:39:17 PM
AFL UTG open for participants ahead of Season 3
http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,110802.msg1913252.html#msg1913252

Join WXV coaches Nige, GoLions, Holz and Levi who are all involved with the competition.

Looking to fill 2 or 3 placements before the commencement of the JLT Series so that a pre-season competition can be run.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on February 24, 2018, 12:47:00 PM
Sorry for the tumbleweeds of late!

But yeah, Worlds this year might be a bit more... compacted on behalf  :-X but the weekend stuff will be no different :)

If anyone throughout the year feels the urge to do a random round preview, flick me a PM, and the floor is yours :) you can say and do whatever you want haha
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on February 26, 2018, 01:31:44 AM
Redden + Fyfe to tie in the Stynes Medal.

Heard it here first. 8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on March 08, 2018, 08:35:26 AM
Naismith ACL :(

Bad blow for the reindeers :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on March 08, 2018, 01:23:41 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on March 08, 2018, 08:35:26 AM
Naismith ACL :(

Bad blow for the reindeers :(
yup big blow
good thing we still developing, not exactly premiership threatening, hahha
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on March 08, 2018, 01:24:37 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on March 08, 2018, 01:23:41 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on March 08, 2018, 08:35:26 AM
Naismith ACL :(

Bad blow for the reindeers :(
yup big blow
good thing we still developing, not exactly premiership threatening, hahha

Tanking
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on March 08, 2018, 07:28:41 PM
Quote from: meow meow on March 08, 2018, 01:24:37 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on March 08, 2018, 01:23:41 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on March 08, 2018, 08:35:26 AM
Naismith ACL :(

Bad blow for the reindeers :(
yup big blow
good thing we still developing, not exactly premiership threatening, hahha

Tanking

Sack PNL
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on March 08, 2018, 07:51:34 PM
We have the next #1 Brissie ruck available #midseasontrades
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on March 08, 2018, 08:24:55 PM
We have the current GWS #1 ruck! That ruck set succession plan really worked out!  8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on March 18, 2018, 06:25:25 PM
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Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on March 18, 2018, 06:46:24 PM
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Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on March 18, 2018, 07:45:22 PM
I uh, don't like where this is going.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on March 18, 2018, 08:51:09 PM
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Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on March 18, 2018, 09:05:07 PM
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Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on March 18, 2018, 11:33:51 PM
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Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on March 19, 2018, 01:19:58 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on March 18, 2018, 11:33:51 PM
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Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on March 19, 2018, 01:31:34 AM
I'm not even in this but I know exactly what's goin on, so...

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Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on April 01, 2018, 04:24:19 PM
What is actually going to happen if meow is gone forever?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on April 01, 2018, 04:26:17 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on April 01, 2018, 04:24:19 PM
What is actually going to happen if meow is gone forever?
:o
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on April 01, 2018, 06:03:50 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on April 01, 2018, 04:24:19 PM
What is actually going to happen if meow is gone forever?

Yeah I'm not entertaining that until the opening bounce next week and Christchurch hasn't submitted a team.

Until then, I'm assuming satire :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on April 01, 2018, 06:31:10 PM
did he randomly leave or was there a reason
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on April 01, 2018, 06:32:13 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on April 01, 2018, 06:31:10 PM
did he randomly leave or was there a reason
kb spots a potential opening
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on April 01, 2018, 06:34:09 PM
Quote from: GoLions on April 01, 2018, 06:32:13 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on April 01, 2018, 06:31:10 PM
did he randomly leave or was there a reason
kb spots a potential opening

;) :-X
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Koop on April 01, 2018, 09:16:26 PM
It's meow, he'll be back
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on April 01, 2018, 09:50:58 PM
Quote from: Koop on April 01, 2018, 09:16:26 PM
It's meow, he'll be back

Can he bring Rocky back with him? Or my compo?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Adamant on April 03, 2018, 06:13:34 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/sDsNzbY.png)

(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/YeSFqbOBA4PCOckkoomg1A--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9NjUwO2g9NDM0/http://media.zenfs.com/en-US/homerun/video.woven.com/df5b7309c385000d1c5a5505c4bf5229)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on April 03, 2018, 07:43:26 PM
Clearly with it being Easter and all, meow was just taking the whole Christchurch thing seriously.

(http://www.creationoutreach.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/.pond/he-is-risen_dp.jpg.w300h401.jpg)

He's back 3 days later.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 10, 2018, 11:28:26 AM
We just got Hanley and Reid back, and they lasted one game each lol

Just been announced Reid out for 8 weeks, and Hanley I imagine will be out for quite a while too

Getting smashed with injuries, but still doing relatively alright all things considered
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: WXV Media on April 10, 2018, 06:19:14 PM
Greetings coaches, users and followers on World XV's.

We are the media and we are here to break news stories and articles where appropriate. We will be breaking news articles across our great game of WXV through our expert communication and presentation skills.

We will not at all be forceful, pushy or overbearing. Well at least it won't feel like that to us.

We very much are looking forward to continuing to be at the forefront of breaking news in the world of WXV.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 10, 2018, 06:26:06 PM
Hi Levi  ;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on April 10, 2018, 06:35:01 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 10, 2018, 06:26:06 PM
Hi Levi  ;D

Hey RD
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on April 10, 2018, 06:39:02 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 10, 2018, 06:35:01 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 10, 2018, 06:26:06 PM
Hi Levi  ;D

Hey RD

RD was saying hi to me Holz!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: fanTCfool on April 10, 2018, 06:47:35 PM
Has anyone ever seen Levi and WXV Media in a room together?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on April 10, 2018, 06:58:30 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on April 10, 2018, 06:47:35 PM
Has anyone ever seen Levi and WXV Media in a room together?


Lol wtf that's not me ahaha


(https://i.imgur.com/ghB1hk3.png)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: WXV Media on April 10, 2018, 07:37:21 PM
HUGE DEVELOPMENT!



(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/53/c8/ff/53c8ff88e96704079a9a356a1e34520e.jpg)



If you are a WXV coach and are planning to go out and about your town this weekend, maybe you shouldn't! Long time observer and wannabe coach Kilbluff has hired a series of snipers with the intent of taking out a coach or 3 so that KB can finally take a spot!



(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/01/23/article-0-1AE652FE00000578-673_634x461.jpg)



Reports have arisen that KB has used his elite coaching skills to pay these snipers a ton of money. Their first request was a graphic of some sort with decent grammar, but KB refused.



Well you can't argue with that!



Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on April 10, 2018, 07:54:30 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on April 10, 2018, 06:39:02 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 10, 2018, 06:35:01 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 10, 2018, 06:26:06 PM
Hi Levi  ;D

Hey RD

RD was saying hi to me Holz!
Hi Levi
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on April 10, 2018, 08:01:11 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 10, 2018, 07:54:30 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on April 10, 2018, 06:39:02 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 10, 2018, 06:35:01 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 10, 2018, 06:26:06 PM
Hi Levi  ;D

Hey RD

RD was saying hi to me Holz!
Hi Levi

Hi Holz
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 10, 2018, 08:11:13 PM
Well you can't argue with that!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on April 10, 2018, 08:32:37 PM
Hahahaha, GOLD!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on April 10, 2018, 10:28:34 PM
Haha love this ;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on April 11, 2018, 12:14:59 AM
Well this has shaken up WXV! I hope the WXV Media blowtorch doesn't turn to the Jags :-X
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Koop on April 11, 2018, 01:00:11 AM
"Reports have arisen that KB has used his elite coaching skills to pay these snipers a ton of money. Their first request was a graphic of some sort with decent grammar, but KB refused."

HAHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on April 11, 2018, 11:24:46 AM
(http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Brad+Crouch+Adelaide+v+Richmond+W7nVUQFVgOcl.jpg)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9zeI5NoysA


He stares at his ceiling once again, with 100 thoughts. "Maybe he will be 100%?" "actually, probably not"...
He walks down the hall with her head down low
Scared to meet his eyes
Even when he hears he is fit, he's swarmed with butterflies

(Chorus)
It's impossible to get you off my mind
I think about 100 thoughts and you are 99
I've understood that you will never be 100%, and that's fine... I'm just breaking inside

He always walks the crowded halls, and is blinded by this light
A coach who keeps his head down low, and never shows his eyes...
He's tried to play for them but there's no easy way
'Cause every time he runs out on the park, he can't run all the way.

(Chorus)
Oh it's impossible to get you off my mind
I think about 100 thoughts and you are 99
I've understood that you will never be mine, and that's fine... I'm just breaking inside

And one day, maybe he will stay fit
And start to show the comp his worth
And one day, he'll run out on the park, and instead of breaking, I call him reliable...
One day he'll grab the captaincy by the reigns.
And force the comp to bow down.
Game by Game
And one day, he'll look into her eyes
And say that "You're my only Coach"
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on April 11, 2018, 11:47:33 AM
I didn't know you had such a lovely voice Holz!

That's really nice. :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on April 11, 2018, 11:53:32 AM
Quote from: Levi434 on April 11, 2018, 11:47:33 AM
I didn't know you had such a lovely voice Holz!

That's really nice. :)

yeah its a great song
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on April 11, 2018, 12:12:12 PM
What the flower is that?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on April 11, 2018, 12:13:32 PM
Quote from: Toga on April 11, 2018, 12:12:12 PM
What the flower is that?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on April 11, 2018, 12:20:26 PM
Quote from: Nige on April 11, 2018, 12:13:32 PM
Quote from: Toga on April 11, 2018, 12:12:12 PM
What the flower is that?
It's flowering pie is what it is
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on April 11, 2018, 12:27:56 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on April 11, 2018, 12:20:26 PM
Quote from: Nige on April 11, 2018, 12:13:32 PM
Quote from: Toga on April 11, 2018, 12:12:12 PM
What the flower is that?
It's flowering pie is what it is

You are correct it is a PremIErship player.

im surprised you know what that is :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on April 11, 2018, 12:44:17 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 11, 2018, 12:27:56 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on April 11, 2018, 12:20:26 PM
Quote from: Nige on April 11, 2018, 12:13:32 PM
Quote from: Toga on April 11, 2018, 12:12:12 PM
What the flower is that?
It's flowering pie is what it is

You are correct it is a PremIErship player.

im surprised you know what that is :P
tHat'S noT whAT i saId
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on April 11, 2018, 01:31:10 PM
lol why did nobody tell me about  that post
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Adamant on April 11, 2018, 03:22:55 PM
Quote from: Nige on April 11, 2018, 12:13:32 PM
Quote from: Toga on April 11, 2018, 12:12:12 PM
What the flower is that?

He's lost the plot. Obviously still rattled from the beatdown we gave him on the weekend.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: WXV Media on April 11, 2018, 03:34:46 PM
HUGE DEVELOPMENT!

A recent photo has been leaked on Ryan Clarke's Snapchat! The photo is Toronto Coach Adamant appearing to be boxing training with a speed bag. The important thing is that the bag actually has a cutout of the Dublin team logo! Clearly the Toronto coach has been training for this moment all preseason! No word as yet as to if Ryan Clarke will be punished.


(https://i.imgur.com/tDilIsF.png)


Well you can't argue with that!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on April 11, 2018, 04:01:52 PM
I just worked out why NDT and Toronto both celebrate things like home and away wins and making the grand final.

I found the link.

(http://instantmememaker.com/wp-content/themes/viralimagehubpro/images/memes/36d5f43e7b8530d1fec0fe2a9feea78a.png)

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on April 11, 2018, 04:26:37 PM
Using "Freo have no flags" jokes... Ada and I have seen these for 23 years Holz, gotta do better than that
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Adamant on April 11, 2018, 05:02:31 PM
Funny you say that Holz, because I just worked out why Dublin and Norf are both pie.

They both have this spud as their ruckman.

(http://i68.tinypic.com/33a894p.png)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on April 11, 2018, 05:03:31 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on April 11, 2018, 04:26:37 PM
Using "Freo have no flags" jokes... Ada and I have seen these for 23 years Holz, gotta do better than that

Toronto and NDT have no flags, gotta do better than that.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: fanTCfool on April 11, 2018, 05:05:11 PM
Great to see a resurgence in bottom text memes  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on April 11, 2018, 05:10:27 PM
Quote from: Adamant on April 11, 2018, 05:02:31 PM
Funny you say that Holz, because I just worked out why Dublin and Norf are both pie.

They both have this spud as their ruckman.

(http://i68.tinypic.com/33a894p.png)

Going at a 95 average and is a premiership player with a 101 in last years finals series.

He turns up when he is needed and he was needed last week. In all honesty the higher up the ladder Toronto is the better for me, id much rather face you in the finals then one of the big 3.

So far i have had 1 game that matters this year and Goldy went 105 thats decent enough for me.



Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Adamant on April 11, 2018, 05:35:08 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 11, 2018, 05:10:27 PM
In all honesty the higher up the ladder Toronto is the better for me, id much rather face you in the finals then one of the big 3.

Ah so you're a masochist. Makes sense.

Might be getting a little ahead of yourself though, that's assuming you make the finals.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on April 11, 2018, 05:43:16 PM
Quote from: Adamant on April 11, 2018, 05:35:08 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 11, 2018, 05:10:27 PM
In all honesty the higher up the ladder Toronto is the better for me, id much rather face you in the finals then one of the big 3.

Ah so you're a masochist. Makes sense.

Might be getting a little ahead of yourself though, that's assuming you make the finals.

Nah I like winning finals its why im running at 9-1 the last 3 years.

you beat me in the home and away, congrats your now in the class of London. (Sorry London I like you guys)

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on April 11, 2018, 06:37:07 PM
Quote from: WXV Media on April 11, 2018, 03:34:46 PM
HUGE DEVELOPMENT!

A recent photo has been leaked on Ryan Clarke's Snapchat! The photo is Toronto Coach Adamant appearing to be boxing training with a speed bag. The important thing is that the bag actually has a cutout of the Dublin team logo! Clearly the Toronto coach has been training for this moment all preseason! No word as yet as to if Ryan Clarke will be punished.


(https://i.imgur.com/tDilIsF.png)


Well you can't argue with that!

As controversial banter  preparation as the crows preseason, but will it pay off?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on April 11, 2018, 07:07:59 PM
Anyone know how to contact the WXV media? Will PM suffice?

I think I have uncovered some juicy info that the media would be interested in.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: WXV Media on April 11, 2018, 07:08:34 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on April 11, 2018, 07:07:59 PM
Anyone know how to contact the WXV media? Will PM suffice?

I think I have uncovered some juicy info that the media would be interested in.

PM will do.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: WXV Media on April 11, 2018, 07:14:29 PM
HUGE DEVELOPMENT!

Image courtesy of Levi.

(https://i.imgur.com/0jU2Snx.png)

Yes it is unfortunately true. To my great distain I have been revealed much earlier than I had hoped for. But as a commitment to breaking the WXV News I promise to continue posting breaking news. That said I will also be accepting any leaked or breaking documents anyone may have. Sorry if anyone was misled.
Thank you and kind regards - Holz
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on April 11, 2018, 07:16:45 PM
Don't buy it. There was no mention of Dublin in that post!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 11, 2018, 07:19:27 PM
LOL  ;D

(https://i.imgur.com/quuso41.png)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: WXV Media on April 11, 2018, 07:23:53 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 11, 2018, 07:19:27 PM
LOL  ;D

(https://i.imgur.com/quuso41.png)

We as the media are right on it! What can we say RD?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: WXV Media on April 11, 2018, 07:41:24 PM
HUGE DEVELOPMENT!


(https://i.imgur.com/66LutUG.png)


Huge news as a report has risen about Dublin Coach Holz, spying on a Rio training session. The above message was sent to the assistant coach but we managed to hack his phone. Holz and the rest of the Dublin team arrived in Rio today ahead of their blockbuster and match of the round this weekend. Holz obviously desperate to get a leg up has resorted to spying.


(https://i.imgur.com/A6blWCU.png)


Well you can't argue with that!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on April 11, 2018, 08:06:06 PM
Really Holz? Come on...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on April 11, 2018, 09:15:45 PM
Fake news

I was at a north training session talking to goldy.

This media person needs better sources
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: WXV Media on April 12, 2018, 01:15:03 PM
HUGE DEVELOPMENT!

The image below shows the whereabouts of Vinny! We were able to retain this image by helicoptering in and snapping it without him knowing. We chose not to rescue him because why should we?

(https://i.imgur.com/eVdMq2x.png)

Clearly Vinny is in a tough situation and most likely doesn't have reception. Now we can finally put to bed the 404 rumours.

Well you can't argue with that!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: WXV Media on April 12, 2018, 07:59:21 PM
HUGE DEVELOPMENT!

There has been a notable omission in recent weeks within WXV. That is of course the great meow meow. He has officially gone cold. The top banterer title going to Adamant and Holz. meow meow was once the only one with shoulders big enough to carry the entire WXV banter but it seems his time has come to an end.

(https://i.imgur.com/YzBvSLc.png)

No doubt part of this was the fact that the only SC God Gary Ablett got injured.

(https://i.imgur.com/SvWw5c4.png)

Well you can't argue with that!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on April 12, 2018, 09:41:18 PM
Really liked WXV Media's work until he said Holz was one of the kings of banter. Disgusting call
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on April 12, 2018, 09:54:54 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 12, 2018, 09:41:18 PM
Really liked WXV Media's work until he said Holz was one of the kings of banter. Disgusting call
(https://i.imgur.com/KhFtBby.png)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on April 12, 2018, 10:20:06 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 12, 2018, 09:41:18 PM
Really liked WXV Media's work until he said Holz was one of the kings of banter. Disgusting call
Got to agree with ele

"One of the kings" really

I am The Emperor of Banter.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on April 12, 2018, 10:51:49 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 12, 2018, 10:20:06 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 12, 2018, 09:41:18 PM
Really liked WXV Media's work until he said Holz was one of the kings of banter. Disgusting call
Got to agree with ele

"One of the kings" really

I am The Emperor of Banter.

I think Princess of Pie has a better ring to it
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on April 13, 2018, 12:01:57 AM
Quote from: elephants on April 12, 2018, 10:51:49 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 12, 2018, 10:20:06 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 12, 2018, 09:41:18 PM
Really liked WXV Media's work until he said Holz was one of the kings of banter. Disgusting call
Got to agree with ele

"One of the kings" really

I am The Emperor of Banter.

I think Princess of Pie has a better ring to it
;D ;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: WXV Media on April 13, 2018, 04:40:19 PM
HUGE DEVELOPMENT!

(https://i.imgur.com/ReKYvkR.png)

Purple 77 today has announced a blockbuster deal worth in excess of 500 million dollars! The deal will officially keep the WXV Grand Final at the MCG until 2057.

(https://i.imgur.com/CppJZ1r.png)

The so-called home of WXV has only held 2 games in the past year and many fans are questioning if Purple 77 has gone senile with this decision. Purple spoke to the media recently to address the concerns of the fans.

(https://i.imgur.com/4GQmAH9.png)

The WXV CEO, President and Admin addressed these concerns as "harmful to the integrity" and "unaccountable." He went on to say that this is a tradition that will remain forever and other states can shove it. Purple abruptly finished the TV interview with "There will be no further comments." Before storming off.

Well you can't argue with that!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on April 13, 2018, 08:28:49 PM
I think I come across very well
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: WXV Media on April 16, 2018, 07:34:24 PM
HUGE DEVELOPMENT!

Mexico Coach JROO8 powered off at the ill discipline of his few decent players.

(https://i.imgur.com/m4y0LuB.png)


Both Jack Graham and Lachie Hunter have been suspended for 1 game following their despicable outbreaks on the weekend. With Jroo very disappointed in his players, shaming them at their team interview this morning.

(https://i.imgur.com/xyTNSJ8.png)

Well you can't argue with that!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on April 16, 2018, 07:38:48 PM
my 4 year old nephew has better banter than holz
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on April 16, 2018, 08:06:20 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on April 16, 2018, 07:38:48 PM
my 4 year old nephew has better banter than holz

what a gun,

if a coaching spot comes up he should certainly get it.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on April 17, 2018, 11:04:04 AM
We actually have a winnable game this week and we lose our captain and a mid that actually plays. Oh well  ::) :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 17, 2018, 03:33:21 PM
Hanley confirmed 12 weeks out now

Jordan Lewis out for a couple with a broken hand

Ryder still 5 weeks away

NFI on Hendo

Betts done a hammy so will now miss

Sam Reid LTI

We can't catch a break this season, absolutely smashed with injuries every week so far

As soon as we get one player back, we lose 2 more
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: WXV Media on April 18, 2018, 11:03:36 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/EE6AIbk.png)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on April 18, 2018, 11:19:30 AM
Think im a Gamer/Tablet

also PN-Dell
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on April 18, 2018, 12:40:30 PM
think I'm the phone

and u can't just leave ff open gotta refresh every 15min
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: iZander on April 18, 2018, 02:53:20 PM
Im the phone and the bottom half of tablet haha
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on April 18, 2018, 05:34:14 PM
HP is the biggest public library I reckon.

I'm probably a full blown tablet haha
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 18, 2018, 05:48:55 PM
Probably a cross between Dell and the McDouble.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 28, 2018, 10:42:17 AM
Bit of shameless advertising

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,111423.0.html
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on May 07, 2018, 03:42:36 PM
78.6 average forward who has played every match this year. Apparently I had to upgrade a pick to get rid of him, and you clowns let the trade pass. I only did it to see how corrupt you lot are, and if you would be fair enough to neg it, but no let's screw Christchurch in the trade voting as usual.

COMPO

I demand 78 averaging player, and a pick upgrade from each and every team that didn't neg the Jed Anderson trade. Crooked cows.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on May 07, 2018, 03:47:26 PM
Quote from: meow meow on May 07, 2018, 03:42:36 PM
78.6 average forward who has played every match this year. Apparently I had to upgrade a pick to get rid of him, and you clowns let the trade pass. I only did it to see how corrupt you lot are, and if you would be fair enough to neg it, but no let's screw Christchurch in the trade voting as usual.

COMPO

I demand 78 averaging player, and a pick upgrade from each and every team that didn't neg the Jed Anderson trade. Crooked cows.

yeah that annoys me as i would have actually paid something for him.

im still not sure how that legally went through.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on May 07, 2018, 03:50:28 PM
I'll take Petracca and pick 60 for pick 65.
Charlie Dixon and pick 55 for pick 60.
Josh Dunkley and pick 50 for pick 55.
Jack Billings and pick 45 for pick 50.
Rory Lobb and pick 40 for pick 45.
Tom Papley and pick 35 for pick 40.

And apparently that's fair. None of those chumps are averaging as much as the Jed btw. Can't say he's shower and they're good because the facts say otherwise.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on May 07, 2018, 04:36:36 PM
Quote from: meow meow on May 07, 2018, 03:50:28 PM
I'll take Petracca and pick 60 for pick 65.
Charlie Dixon and pick 55 for pick 60.
Josh Dunkley and pick 50 for pick 55.
Jack Billings and pick 45 for pick 50.
Rory Lobb and pick 40 for pick 45.
Tom Papley and pick 35 for pick 40.

And apparently that's fair. None of those chumps are averaging as much as the Jed btw. Can't say he's shower and they're good because the facts say otherwise.
Happy to pass those tbh
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on May 07, 2018, 05:00:18 PM
What's all this crying about Jed Anderson about?

Thanks again for letting him slip through to pick 60odd for us

We didn't have our first pick in the draft until Pick 50 something - can't believe we got Jed and CEY

Thanks!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jukes on May 07, 2018, 06:20:37 PM
Still waiting on compo for that Daniher (56 average) for Sinkers (108 average) and a fourth getting negged
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on May 07, 2018, 06:42:06 PM
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/069/143/Yougetnothing.jpg)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on May 14, 2018, 02:09:37 PM
Quote from: meow meow on May 07, 2018, 03:42:36 PM
78.6 average forward who has played every match this year. Apparently I had to upgrade a pick to get rid of him, and you clowns let the trade pass. I only did it to see how corrupt you lot are, and if you would be fair enough to neg it, but no let's screw Christchurch in the trade voting as usual.

COMPO

I demand 78 averaging player, and a pick upgrade from each and every team that didn't neg the Jed Anderson trade. Crooked cows.

Make that 82.6

Increased compo
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on May 15, 2018, 08:45:03 AM
I was up-in-arms at the time meow!

... Although, not necessarily at the Jed Anderson part of the trade haha
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on May 17, 2018, 06:16:21 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on April 18, 2018, 05:34:14 PM
HP is the biggest public library I reckon.

I'm probably a full blown tablet haha
:-* I remember a time when I was the McDouble, but that was almost a decade ago :'(.

If you keep the stats, you can frame things however you want to be right >:D.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on May 17, 2018, 08:25:07 PM
MacBook here
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on May 17, 2018, 09:55:23 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 18, 2018, 11:19:30 AM
Think im a Gamer/Tablet

also PN-Dell
Holz, don't lie, you're a gamer on an iPad with a phone in your pocket.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on May 20, 2018, 11:01:18 PM
Meant to post this the other day, but better late than never.

Holz will appreciate this.

(https://i.gyazo.com/30026914aedffaca652892e58c279c05.png)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on May 21, 2018, 12:06:49 AM
Quote from: Nige on May 20, 2018, 11:01:18 PM
Meant to post this the other day, but better late than never.

Holz will appreciate this.

(https://i.gyazo.com/30026914aedffaca652892e58c279c05.png)

3 days in going well
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on May 21, 2018, 02:00:19 AM
Quote from: meow meow on May 14, 2018, 02:09:37 PM
Quote from: meow meow on May 07, 2018, 03:42:36 PM
78.6 average forward who has played every match this year. Apparently I had to upgrade a pick to get rid of him, and you clowns let the trade pass. I only did it to see how corrupt you lot are, and if you would be fair enough to neg it, but no let's screw Christchurch in the trade voting as usual.

COMPO

I demand 78 averaging player, and a pick upgrade from each and every team that didn't neg the Jed Anderson trade. Crooked cows.

Make that 82.6

Increased compo
Make that 86
Increased compo
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Adamant on May 21, 2018, 05:30:57 PM
De Goey > JOM
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: iZander on May 22, 2018, 10:48:57 AM
Quote from: Adamant on May 21, 2018, 05:30:57 PM
De Goey > JOM
Youd wanna hope so given the deal  ::)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on May 22, 2018, 10:51:06 AM
Quote from: iZander on May 22, 2018, 10:48:57 AM
Quote from: Adamant on May 21, 2018, 05:30:57 PM
De Goey > JOM
Youd wanna hope so given the deal  ::)

NN > Kreuzer DeGoey
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Adamant on May 22, 2018, 12:07:23 PM
Quote from: iZander on May 22, 2018, 10:48:57 AM
Quote from: Adamant on May 21, 2018, 05:30:57 PM
De Goey > JOM
Youd wanna hope so given the deal  ::)

Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

At the time of the deal, Kreuzer was coming off a 110 average after playing his first season as the sole ruck in years (not splitting duties with spuds like Wood and Phillips). Nic Nat hadn't played a game in over a year and there were no guarantees he would return as the player he was. De Goey (as a forward) was always worth more than broken down Jaeger, who in all likelihood will never reach elite status.

Nobody in their right mind would have straight swapped Kreuzer for Nic Nat or De Goey for JOM at the end of last season. I had to get something back - Hogan was coming off season averages of 78.3, 76 and 69.7 and only a few astute coaches would have seen him as a future premium forward. Holz himself told me on discord that he will never be much of a scorer (adding to his ever growing list of fantastic calls). If Hogan was averaging 75 again nobody would be batting an eyelid. Not my fault I picked the potential.

As mentioned previously, you can't dismiss Callum Brown as being worth nothing. People also seem to forgot a bloke named Jayden Short was in that deal too - a 22 year old, 76 averaging defender. Phillips and Gorringe (who retired shorty after) weren't worth a whole lot but they did/were supposed to provide ruck cover as Kreuzer's backups. I didn't receive any cover to go with injury prone Nic Nat which had to be taken into consideration too. Fair trade.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on May 22, 2018, 12:30:17 PM
Adamant - 08/01/2017
What players on mine are you keen on?

Holz - 08/01/2017
lots actually
just going through your list again
B Smith ,  S Savage , S Pendlebury, A Brayshaw, J Hopper, J De Goey


Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on May 22, 2018, 12:37:17 PM
Stop talking about that shower and talk about my compo instead.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on May 22, 2018, 12:49:42 PM
Quote from: meow meow on May 22, 2018, 12:37:17 PM
Stop talking about that shower and talk about my compo instead.

You decided to give him away i was always going to pay a pick 50ish for him. which is hindsight was way too low still better then nothing.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: iZander on May 22, 2018, 02:23:21 PM
Quote from: meow meow on May 22, 2018, 12:37:17 PM
Stop talking about that shower and talk about my compo instead.
Yeah, ive been thinking alot about this, ive been thinking a pick between 5-8 is probably about fair
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on May 22, 2018, 02:46:55 PM
Quote from: iZander on May 22, 2018, 02:23:21 PM
Quote from: meow meow on May 22, 2018, 12:37:17 PM
Stop talking about that shower and talk about my compo instead.
Yeah, ive been thinking alot about this, ive been thinking a pick between 5-8 is probably about fair
That's just for the Anderson trade, right? A 24 year old forward averaging 86 is definitely worth that. There's been other travesties and atrocities committed upon Church all throughout our history.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on May 22, 2018, 02:49:57 PM
Quote from: meow meow on May 22, 2018, 02:46:55 PM
Quote from: iZander on May 22, 2018, 02:23:21 PM
Quote from: meow meow on May 22, 2018, 12:37:17 PM
Stop talking about that shower and talk about my compo instead.
Yeah, ive been thinking alot about this, ive been thinking a pick between 5-8 is probably about fair
That's just for the Anderson trade, right? A 24 year old forward averaging 86 is definitely worth that. There's been other travesties and atrocities committed upon Church all throughout our history.
you cant stop it by not posting these bad deals up

(https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-a7742e14186d6079f8865ec2b3b81dad)

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on May 22, 2018, 02:52:39 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 22, 2018, 02:49:57 PM
Quote from: meow meow on May 22, 2018, 02:46:55 PM
Quote from: iZander on May 22, 2018, 02:23:21 PM
Quote from: meow meow on May 22, 2018, 12:37:17 PM
Stop talking about that shower and talk about my compo instead.
Yeah, ive been thinking alot about this, ive been thinking a pick between 5-8 is probably about fair
That's just for the Anderson trade, right? A 24 year old forward averaging 86 is definitely worth that. There's been other travesties and atrocities committed upon Church all throughout our history.
you cant stop it by not posting these bad deals up

What's the point of trade voting then, if it's up to the individual teams solely to ensure fair trading?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: iZander on May 22, 2018, 02:53:48 PM
Quote from: meow meow on May 22, 2018, 02:46:55 PM
Quote from: iZander on May 22, 2018, 02:23:21 PM
Quote from: meow meow on May 22, 2018, 12:37:17 PM
Stop talking about that shower and talk about my compo instead.
Yeah, ive been thinking alot about this, ive been thinking a pick between 5-8 is probably about fair
That's just for the Anderson trade, right? A 24 year old forward averaging 86 is definitely worth that. There's been other travesties and atrocities committed upon Church all throughout our history.
Well now i think about it, its probably more 1-4, Houstons worth a top 4 pick last year at 73 average as a defender so 86 as a forward has gotta be worth that
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Adamant on May 22, 2018, 03:16:37 PM
Quote from: iZander on May 22, 2018, 02:53:48 PM
Quote from: meow meow on May 22, 2018, 02:46:55 PM
Quote from: iZander on May 22, 2018, 02:23:21 PM
Quote from: meow meow on May 22, 2018, 12:37:17 PM
Stop talking about that shower and talk about my compo instead.
Yeah, ive been thinking alot about this, ive been thinking a pick between 5-8 is probably about fair
That's just for the Anderson trade, right? A 24 year old forward averaging 86 is definitely worth that. There's been other travesties and atrocities committed upon Church all throughout our history.
Well now i think about it, its probably more 1-4, Houstons worth a top 4 pick last year at 73 average as a defender so 86 as a forward has gotta be worth that

Don't forget that Weitering is worth more than pick 1. A 43 averaging defender that is currently playing VFL footy. Anderson is doubling his average so has to be worth the entire first round of the 2018 draft.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on May 22, 2018, 03:40:01 PM
Quote from: Adamant on May 22, 2018, 03:16:37 PM
Quote from: iZander on May 22, 2018, 02:53:48 PM
Quote from: meow meow on May 22, 2018, 02:46:55 PM
Quote from: iZander on May 22, 2018, 02:23:21 PM
Quote from: meow meow on May 22, 2018, 12:37:17 PM
Stop talking about that shower and talk about my compo instead.
Yeah, ive been thinking alot about this, ive been thinking a pick between 5-8 is probably about fair
That's just for the Anderson trade, right? A 24 year old forward averaging 86 is definitely worth that. There's been other travesties and atrocities committed upon Church all throughout our history.
Well now i think about it, its probably more 1-4, Houstons worth a top 4 pick last year at 73 average as a defender so 86 as a forward has gotta be worth that

Don't forget that Weitering is worth more than pick 1. A 43 averaging defender that is currently playing VFL footy. Anderson is doubling his average so has to be worth the entire first round of the 2018 draft.
Weitering's kicking on the weekend was worse than my kicking back when i played under 12s.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: iZander on May 22, 2018, 03:43:30 PM
Quote from: GoLions on May 22, 2018, 03:40:01 PM
Quote from: Adamant on May 22, 2018, 03:16:37 PM
Quote from: iZander on May 22, 2018, 02:53:48 PM
Quote from: meow meow on May 22, 2018, 02:46:55 PM
Quote from: iZander on May 22, 2018, 02:23:21 PM
Quote from: meow meow on May 22, 2018, 12:37:17 PM
Stop talking about that shower and talk about my compo instead.
Yeah, ive been thinking alot about this, ive been thinking a pick between 5-8 is probably about fair
That's just for the Anderson trade, right? A 24 year old forward averaging 86 is definitely worth that. There's been other travesties and atrocities committed upon Church all throughout our history.
Well now i think about it, its probably more 1-4, Houstons worth a top 4 pick last year at 73 average as a defender so 86 as a forward has gotta be worth that

Don't forget that Weitering is worth more than pick 1. A 43 averaging defender that is currently playing VFL footy. Anderson is doubling his average so has to be worth the entire first round of the 2018 draft.
Weitering's kicking on the weekend was worse than my kicking back when i played under 12s.
We all know you were a superstar in U12s
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on May 22, 2018, 04:42:33 PM
Quote from: iZander on May 22, 2018, 03:43:30 PM
Quote from: GoLions on May 22, 2018, 03:40:01 PM
Quote from: Adamant on May 22, 2018, 03:16:37 PM
Quote from: iZander on May 22, 2018, 02:53:48 PM
Quote from: meow meow on May 22, 2018, 02:46:55 PM
Quote from: iZander on May 22, 2018, 02:23:21 PM
Quote from: meow meow on May 22, 2018, 12:37:17 PM
Stop talking about that shower and talk about my compo instead.
Yeah, ive been thinking alot about this, ive been thinking a pick between 5-8 is probably about fair
That's just for the Anderson trade, right? A 24 year old forward averaging 86 is definitely worth that. There's been other travesties and atrocities committed upon Church all throughout our history.
Well now i think about it, its probably more 1-4, Houstons worth a top 4 pick last year at 73 average as a defender so 86 as a forward has gotta be worth that

Don't forget that Weitering is worth more than pick 1. A 43 averaging defender that is currently playing VFL footy. Anderson is doubling his average so has to be worth the entire first round of the 2018 draft.
Weitering's kicking on the weekend was worse than my kicking back when i played under 12s.
We all know you were a superstar in U12s
Look, I'm not gonna say you're right, but you're not wrong
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on May 22, 2018, 05:48:11 PM
Anderson is technically averaging 86, but it's over 100 the past month and I can't see that dropping tbqh. Probably gets DPP next year too

CEY going even better

:P


Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on May 22, 2018, 10:14:56 PM
Quote from: Adamant on May 22, 2018, 12:07:23 PM
Quote from: iZander on May 22, 2018, 10:48:57 AM
Quote from: Adamant on May 21, 2018, 05:30:57 PM
De Goey > JOM
Youd wanna hope so given the deal  ::)

Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

At the time of the deal, Kreuzer was coming off a 110 average after playing his first season as the sole ruck in years (not splitting duties with spuds like Wood and Phillips). Nic Nat hadn't played a game in over a year and there were no guarantees he would return as the player he was. De Goey (as a forward) was always worth more than broken down Jaeger, who in all likelihood will never reach elite status.

Nobody in their right mind would have straight swapped Kreuzer for Nic Nat or De Goey for JOM at the end of last season. I had to get something back - Hogan was coming off season averages of 78.3, 76 and 69.7 and only a few astute coaches would have seen him as a future premium forward. Holz himself told me on discord that he will never be much of a scorer (adding to his ever growing list of fantastic calls). If Hogan was averaging 75 again nobody would be batting an eyelid. Not my fault I picked the potential.

As mentioned previously, you can't dismiss Callum Brown as being worth nothing. People also seem to forgot a bloke named Jayden Short was in that deal too - a 22 year old, 76 averaging defender. Phillips and Gorringe (who retired shorty after) weren't worth a whole lot but they did/were supposed to provide ruck cover as Kreuzer's backups. I didn't receive any cover to go with injury prone Nic Nat which had to be taken into consideration too. Fair trade.
I'm still content with this deal.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: iZander on May 22, 2018, 11:33:12 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 22, 2018, 05:48:11 PM
Anderson is technically averaging 86, but it's over 100 the past month and I can't see that dropping tbqh. Probably gets DPP next year too

CEY going even better

:P
na hes about a 0% chance at dpp at this rate :P going well none the less
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 06, 2018, 10:05:36 PM
Apologies for the delay with the Idol and RS/TOTW stuff, I've had so much shower to do recently but I'll get it done when I'm back from class tomorrow.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on June 14, 2018, 09:42:33 PM
Trade 46
Moscow trade: Jarman Impey + Jayden Short
Tokyo trade: Billy Stretch

How did this pass?  :P :'(

If we'd kept Short, I would have firmly said we won that Toronto Hoges/De Goey deal.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on June 15, 2018, 01:31:15 AM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on June 14, 2018, 09:42:33 PM
Trade 46
Moscow trade: Jarman Impey + Jayden Short
Tokyo trade: Billy Stretch

How did this pass?  :P :'(

If we'd kept Short, I would have firmly said we won that Toronto Hoges/De Goey deal.

We all passed it because we like watching you and your fellow coaching staff ruin Moscow
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on June 15, 2018, 01:39:45 PM
Quote from: elephants on June 15, 2018, 01:31:15 AM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on June 14, 2018, 09:42:33 PM
Trade 46
Moscow trade: Jarman Impey + Jayden Short
Tokyo trade: Billy Stretch

How did this pass?  :P :'(

If we'd kept Short, I would have firmly said we won that Toronto Hoges/De Goey deal.

We all passed it because we like watching you and your fellow coaching staff ruin Moscow
Sorry, let me rephrase.

Why are all the players we're trading with little potential becoming superstars.  :P Stretch had so much potential from the last few years and Short was, by reports I heard from the Tigers', on the fringe with Vlas & the rest of their rebounding defenders.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 15, 2018, 03:40:22 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on June 15, 2018, 01:39:45 PM
Quote from: elephants on June 15, 2018, 01:31:15 AM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on June 14, 2018, 09:42:33 PM
Trade 46
Moscow trade: Jarman Impey + Jayden Short
Tokyo trade: Billy Stretch

How did this pass?  :P :'(

If we'd kept Short, I would have firmly said we won that Toronto Hoges/De Goey deal.

We all passed it because we like watching you and your fellow coaching staff ruin Moscow
Sorry, let me rephrase.

Why are all the players we're trading with little potential becoming superstars.  :P Stretch had so much potential from the last few years and Short was, by reports I heard from the Tigers', on the fringe with Vlas & the rest of their rebounding defenders.
We all have those days Torp. I delisted CEY because he was not getting games and look how he is benefiting NY.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on June 19, 2018, 02:24:35 PM
Levi been on holiday for the last 3 weeks :-X

Anyone got a quick rundown of what has happened?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 19, 2018, 02:42:45 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on June 19, 2018, 02:24:35 PM
Levi been on holiday for the last 3 weeks :-X

Anyone got a quick rundown of what has happened?

Round 11: 
Dublin top scored for the round
Dillos Upset Berlin
Nothing much else

Round 12:
Dublin with 14 players beat Cairo
PNL upset NDT
Nothing much else

Round 13:
Eurasia with the lead on AAP
Nothing much else


Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on June 19, 2018, 03:03:46 PM
Rumour has it that Dublin has now officially become the greatest team of all time after that win over the powerhouse that is Cairo.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 19, 2018, 03:21:31 PM
Quote from: GoLions on June 19, 2018, 03:03:46 PM
Rumour has it that Dublin has now officially become the greatest team of all time after that win over the powerhouse that is Cairo.

Become?

the question needs to be raised who is the greatest Worlds team ever?

on the numbers maybe slight edge to Mexico at the moment with the world idols.

Mexico
2 flags
1 runnerup
2 minor premierships
3 world Idols
1 APP title

Dublin
2 flags
1 runnerup
2 minor premierships
1 world idol
1 Eurasia  title
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on June 19, 2018, 05:59:03 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 19, 2018, 03:21:31 PM
Quote from: GoLions on June 19, 2018, 03:03:46 PM
Rumour has it that Dublin has now officially become the greatest team of all time after that win over the powerhouse that is Cairo.

Become?

the question needs to be raised who is the greatest Worlds team ever?

on the numbers maybe slight edge to Mexico at the moment with the world idols.

Mexico
2 flags
1 runnerup
2 minor premierships
3 world Idols
1 APP title

Dublin
2 flags
1 runnerup
2 minor premierships
1 world idol
1 Eurasia  title

I think GL used to agree with you Holz. Hence why GL said you had "BECOME" the greatest team thanks to the victory over the powerhouse that is Cairo.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 19, 2018, 06:05:22 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on June 19, 2018, 05:59:03 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 19, 2018, 03:21:31 PM
Quote from: GoLions on June 19, 2018, 03:03:46 PM
Rumour has it that Dublin has now officially become the greatest team of all time after that win over the powerhouse that is Cairo.

Become?

the question needs to be raised who is the greatest Worlds team ever?

on the numbers maybe slight edge to Mexico at the moment with the world idols.

Mexico
2 flags
1 runnerup
2 minor premierships
3 world Idols
1 APP title

Dublin
2 flags
1 runnerup
2 minor premierships
1 world idol
1 Eurasia  title

I think GL used to agree with you Holz. Hence why GL said you had "BECOME" the greatest team thanks to the victory over the powerhouse that is Cairo.

good call, i think i need a good showing in the finals this year to take the lead though.

but thanks Dave

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on June 19, 2018, 07:43:50 PM
Sao Paulo are the GOAT and will be until Christchurch takes the mantle after the next 3 flags in a row.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on June 19, 2018, 07:44:39 PM
Holz you forgot to include Dublin's wooden spoon
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: PowerBug on June 19, 2018, 07:46:50 PM
Buenos Aires are the real GOATs tbh
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on June 25, 2018, 12:06:16 PM
flower U Jeremy Cameron. Scores about 250 against us then destroyers my star defender. What rambunctious little scamp.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on June 25, 2018, 12:18:28 PM
Quote from: meow meow on June 25, 2018, 12:06:16 PM
flower U Jeremy Cameron. Scores about 250 against us then destroyers my star defender. What rambunctious little scamp.

Seconded meow. Hope he gets done for 17 weeks.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 25, 2018, 12:42:58 PM
I wouldn't be complaining Meow you and Jing pretty much the luckiest teams in the comp.

7th and 8th in points scored but sitting 2nd and 3rd as 1st and 3rd in points against.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Adamant on June 25, 2018, 03:34:27 PM
@Holz, how did your Pie + Fyfe exercise go? Did you get the chocolates?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 25, 2018, 03:54:24 PM
Quote from: Adamant on June 25, 2018, 03:34:27 PM
@Holz, how did your Pie + Fyfe exercise go? Did you get the chocolates?

I reckon i fell short. Davis Holman and Omac killed me. Luckily they will be off my field soon.

Hill Dusty Sloane in this week, May 1-2 weeks away and then Birchall Lids on track to be back before finals.


(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/J5DajhNjSJE/hqdefault.jpg)
Tmac adds another medal to the Dublin pile with a Euroasia AAP champions medal. Rance Goldy and Hoff probably should have added 3 more but really i have enough so happy to spread the love around with the other Eurasian Super teams. 



Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 25, 2018, 04:20:22 PM
I love how you continually bring up Birch as someone to come back like he will actually make a difference lol

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 25, 2018, 04:24:11 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 25, 2018, 04:20:22 PM
I love how you continually bring up Birch as someone to come back like he will actually make a difference lol

He most certainly makes a difference. Im playing OMac who is averaging 52.

Do you think if Birchall plays he can beat that average?

if he can come back and just put up 75 that would be extremely handy. Defense is the line i need the most help on, so id feel great if i can have

Tmac Rance May Davis/Birchall all available then i have Omac as my D6 providing good cover. Omac has moved into a horrible SC role which has massively dropped his average.




Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on June 25, 2018, 06:34:00 PM
Let the Moscow injury curse continue.

You won't find an unluckier team in the past three years, I don't think.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on June 25, 2018, 06:37:08 PM
Jags have defenders Nick Smith was in AAP's top 25 scoring players for the week! I'll accept 3 pick 1's for him.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 25, 2018, 06:48:08 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on June 25, 2018, 06:34:00 PM
Let the Moscow injury curse continue.

You won't find an unluckier team in the past three years, I don't think.
;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on June 25, 2018, 07:05:53 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 25, 2018, 12:42:58 PM
I wouldn't be complaining Meow you and Jing pretty much the luckiest teams in the comp.

7th and 8th in points scored but sitting 2nd and 3rd as 1st and 3rd in points against.

Still smacked you when it mattered though
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on June 25, 2018, 07:11:39 PM
Watch out! Jags have been training the house down over the break! Get ready for a huge finish to the year!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on June 25, 2018, 07:12:27 PM
Quote from: Toga on June 25, 2018, 07:05:53 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 25, 2018, 12:42:58 PM
I wouldn't be complaining Meow you and Jing pretty much the luckiest teams in the comp.

7th and 8th in points scored but sitting 2nd and 3rd as 1st and 3rd in points against.

Still smacked you when it mattered though

I thought you were talking about Christchurch for a second there until I realised that Jing smashed the pie too.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on June 25, 2018, 07:39:07 PM
Quote from: Nige on June 25, 2018, 06:48:08 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on June 25, 2018, 06:34:00 PM
Let the Moscow injury curse continue.

You won't find an unluckier team in the past three years, I don't think.
;D
Why do you hate us so much.  :(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 25, 2018, 07:45:01 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on June 25, 2018, 07:39:07 PM
Quote from: Nige on June 25, 2018, 06:48:08 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on June 25, 2018, 06:34:00 PM
Let the Moscow injury curse continue.

You won't find an unluckier team in the past three years, I don't think.
;D
Why do you hate us so much.  :(
Bitter about that result the other week.  :P

And I mean, can you really claim to be the unluckiest team if you haven't had to play OOP mids?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on June 25, 2018, 07:51:00 PM
Quote from: meow meow on June 25, 2018, 07:12:27 PM
Quote from: Toga on June 25, 2018, 07:05:53 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 25, 2018, 12:42:58 PM
I wouldn't be complaining Meow you and Jing pretty much the luckiest teams in the comp.

7th and 8th in points scored but sitting 2nd and 3rd as 1st and 3rd in points against.

Still smacked you when it mattered though

I thought you were talking about Christchurch for a second there until I realised that Jing smashed the pie too.

Lots of talk from young Holz about our teams but hasn't been able to back it up on the field has he meow?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 26, 2018, 12:05:16 AM
Quote from: Toga on June 25, 2018, 07:05:53 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 25, 2018, 12:42:58 PM
I wouldn't be complaining Meow you and Jing pretty much the luckiest teams in the comp.

7th and 8th in points scored but sitting 2nd and 3rd as 1st and 3rd in points against.

Still smacked you when it mattered though

Finals is when it matters
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 27, 2018, 06:49:11 PM
Levi434 (Team Dove) - Today at 5:54 PM
I love Toronto and Dublin beef
It is hilarious

Holz - Today at 5:54 PM
I think everyone including Adamant knows id crush him full strength
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on June 27, 2018, 10:39:52 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 27, 2018, 06:49:11 PM
Levi434 (Team Dove) - Today at 5:54 PM
I love Toronto and Dublin beef
It is hilarious

Holz - Today at 5:54 PM
I think everyone including Adamant knows id crush him full strength

Cool
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on June 27, 2018, 10:48:45 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on June 27, 2018, 10:39:52 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 27, 2018, 06:49:11 PM
Levi434 (Team Dove) - Today at 5:54 PM
I love Toronto and Dublin beef
It is hilarious

Holz - Today at 5:54 PM
I think everyone including Adamant knows id crush him full strength

Cool
Mmm, yes. Quite.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Adamant on July 02, 2018, 05:18:38 PM
First Macrae, then (C)onnor, and now Lynden has Dunn his ACL. Thank god we still have Jarrod Garlett fit and firing or else we'd be cooked.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 02, 2018, 05:30:01 PM
Quote from: Adamant on July 02, 2018, 05:18:38 PM
First Macrae, then (C)onnor, and now Lynden has Dunn his ACL. Thank god we still have Jarrod Garlett fit and firing or else we'd be cooked.

Sounds like you're doing pretty well if you only have 3 out

Out of curiosity, what teams right now have the most players missing from their best 15?

Hanley, Henderson and JJK would be 3 for us. CEY, both Reids and Betts are also missing and they are our first choice depth options too so we''re pretty stretched at the moment

Heeney to miss this week too means you can pretty much put a knife through our season - we're cooked

Curious to know which teams are similarly injured and which teams are cherry ripe with most available?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on July 02, 2018, 05:42:55 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 02, 2018, 05:30:01 PM
Quote from: Adamant on July 02, 2018, 05:18:38 PM
First Macrae, then (C)onnor, and now Lynden has Dunn his ACL. Thank god we still have Jarrod Garlett fit and firing or else we'd be cooked.

Sounds like you're doing pretty well if you only have 3 out

Out of curiosity, what teams right now have the most players missing from their best 15?

Hanley, Henderson and JJK would be 3 for us. CEY, both Reids and Betts are also missing and they are our first choice depth options too so we''re pretty stretched at the moment

Heeney to miss this week too means you can pretty much put a knife through our season - we're cooked

Curious to know which teams are similarly injured and which teams are cherry ripe with most available?
Houli, Darling, Scooter and Hannebery. So 4
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 02, 2018, 05:49:27 PM
LOL you can't count Hanners just because he's turned into a potato!  ;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 02, 2018, 06:05:31 PM
Quote from: Adamant on July 02, 2018, 05:18:38 PM
First Macrae, then (C)onnor, and now Lynden has Dunn his ACL. Thank god we still have Jarrod Garlett fit and firing or else we'd be cooked.

geez your in great shape if your complaining about losing 60 average spud defenders.

That or you have horrible depth.

which is is Ada?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 02, 2018, 06:12:13 PM
Last week

Andrews
Scully
Liberatore
Wells
Waite
Sandi

The forwards hurt the most since most of the depth is missing too.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on July 02, 2018, 07:31:16 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 02, 2018, 05:30:01 PM
Quote from: Adamant on July 02, 2018, 05:18:38 PM
First Macrae, then (C)onnor, and now Lynden has Dunn his ACL. Thank god we still have Jarrod Garlett fit and firing or else we'd be cooked.

Sounds like you're doing pretty well if you only have 3 out

Out of curiosity, what teams right now have the most players missing from their best 15?

Hanley, Henderson and JJK would be 3 for us. CEY, both Reids and Betts are also missing and they are our first choice depth options too so we''re pretty stretched at the moment

Heeney to miss this week too means you can pretty much put a knife through our season - we're cooked

Curious to know which teams are similarly injured and which teams are cherry ripe with most available?
Have we not been through this?  :P They're our key players too.

Docherty, Treloar, Kreuzer, Daniher, Acres, Bell & Barrass hey're just our starters. Throw Begley with an ACL & Hombsch as borderline starters when fit out injured too!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 02, 2018, 07:46:11 PM
Bell? A starter? The same bloke that can't and shouldn't get a start for Brisbane?

And you're depth can't be bad enough that Begley and Hombsch are 'borderline starters', that's just a huge reach.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 02, 2018, 08:03:16 PM
Yeah I'll give you the first 5 Torp but as Nige says you're stretching on the rest. Barrass is handy but hardly the type that costs much loss in points when absent

meow has a legit list, although the latter 3 can't seriously be trusted or expected to play most weeks anyway lol



Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on July 04, 2018, 11:10:29 AM
Cyril  :'( :'(
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 04, 2018, 11:20:36 AM
Purp if this requires work then dont bother. But if its just a case of running a spreadsheet could you update us on how the cap situation is looking.

The cap is soo confusing that i dont have a clue how im looking especially with alot of my guys missing large chunks of the year.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 05, 2018, 06:54:47 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 04, 2018, 11:20:36 AM
Purp if this requires work then dont bother. But if its just a case of running a spreadsheet could you update us on how the cap situation is looking.

The cap is soo confusing that i dont have a clue how im looking especially with alot of my guys missing large chunks of the year.
Definitely looking forward to finally dropping Sam Mitchell, Montagna, Bob, Petrie etc from the WXV cap. Totally makes sense to include them this year though as they are having a profound impact on the competition.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 05, 2018, 09:37:19 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 05, 2018, 06:54:47 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 04, 2018, 11:20:36 AM
Purp if this requires work then dont bother. But if its just a case of running a spreadsheet could you update us on how the cap situation is looking.

The cap is soo confusing that i dont have a clue how im looking especially with alot of my guys missing large chunks of the year.
Definitely looking forward to finally dropping Sam Mitchell, Montagna, Bob, Petrie etc from the WXV cap. Totally makes sense to include them this year though as they are having a profound impact on the competition.

Ha,

Weekend job Holz, it might take some doin, but I'll see how it goes.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 06, 2018, 12:23:15 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 05, 2018, 09:37:19 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 05, 2018, 06:54:47 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 04, 2018, 11:20:36 AM
Purp if this requires work then dont bother. But if its just a case of running a spreadsheet could you update us on how the cap situation is looking.

The cap is soo confusing that i dont have a clue how im looking especially with alot of my guys missing large chunks of the year.
Definitely looking forward to finally dropping Sam Mitchell, Montagna, Bob, Petrie etc from the WXV cap. Totally makes sense to include them this year though as they are having a profound impact on the competition.

Ha,

Weekend job Holz, it might take some doin, but I'll see how it goes.

Nah all good purp dont waste your weekend i just thought there was a chance it was a 5 minute job. Can wait till after finals
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Adamant on July 16, 2018, 10:59:32 PM
Quote from: Adamant on January 17, 2018, 05:08:23 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on January 17, 2018, 04:40:51 PM
First trade of TP 2 here for y'all.

Toronto Wolves Trade: Declan Mountford, Jeremy Finlayson, Kyron Hayden, Aaron Hall
Rio de Janeiro Trade: Wayne Milera, Lynden Dunn, Jake Melksham, Tom Bellchambers

Here at Rio we despise player attachment. Henceforth we have ensured to negate all feelings of attachment whilst trading this offseason. In addition we feel trading Aaron Hall back into this lineup is in accordance with our mantra. We see this as a Bellchambers for Hall swap. A Mountford for Milera swap and the other two for the other two. Our backline, whilst quite sturdy could use the stiffness gained by Mounting.

Toronto are clearly here to challenge for a premiership and their staff were committed to building some extra forward depth after a few DPP changes went away from them. Coach Adamant is always a little #CONCERNED about the health, fitness and playing capacity of NicNat. Adamant feels as though Belly could be the final piece of the premiership puzzle and wants that piece of mind of having some rock-solid ruck depth.

Confirmed.

If Nic Nat goes down my season is over. Belly averaged 105 against unrecognised/second tier rucks and 76.3 against the elite. He'll find himself at U2 when he comes up against rucks like Goldy. Mountford and Milera are the same age and averaged the same last year, purely a positional swap. The rest of the deal is Levi injecting some more youth at the expense of old depth.

Might just become the most important trade ever made in WXVs.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 16, 2018, 11:02:04 PM
Quote from: Adamant on July 16, 2018, 10:59:32 PM
Quote from: Adamant on January 17, 2018, 05:08:23 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on January 17, 2018, 04:40:51 PM
First trade of TP 2 here for y'all.

Toronto Wolves Trade: Declan Mountford, Jeremy Finlayson, Kyron Hayden, Aaron Hall
Rio de Janeiro Trade: Wayne Milera, Lynden Dunn, Jake Melksham, Tom Bellchambers

Here at Rio we despise player attachment. Henceforth we have ensured to negate all feelings of attachment whilst trading this offseason. In addition we feel trading Aaron Hall back into this lineup is in accordance with our mantra. We see this as a Bellchambers for Hall swap. A Mountford for Milera swap and the other two for the other two. Our backline, whilst quite sturdy could use the stiffness gained by Mounting.

Toronto are clearly here to challenge for a premiership and their staff were committed to building some extra forward depth after a few DPP changes went away from them. Coach Adamant is always a little #CONCERNED about the health, fitness and playing capacity of NicNat. Adamant feels as though Belly could be the final piece of the premiership puzzle and wants that piece of mind of having some rock-solid ruck depth.

Confirmed.

If Nic Nat goes down my season is over. Belly averaged 105 against unrecognised/second tier rucks and 76.3 against the elite. He'll find himself at U2 when he comes up against rucks like Goldy. Mountford and Milera are the same age and averaged the same last year, purely a positional swap. The rest of the deal is Levi injecting some more youth at the expense of old depth.

Might just become the most important trade ever made in WXVs.

That's a bit rich.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: iZander on July 16, 2018, 11:03:03 PM
Quote from: Adamant on July 16, 2018, 10:59:32 PM
Quote from: Adamant on January 17, 2018, 05:08:23 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on January 17, 2018, 04:40:51 PM
First trade of TP 2 here for y'all.

Toronto Wolves Trade: Declan Mountford, Jeremy Finlayson, Kyron Hayden, Aaron Hall
Rio de Janeiro Trade: Wayne Milera, Lynden Dunn, Jake Melksham, Tom Bellchambers

Here at Rio we despise player attachment. Henceforth we have ensured to negate all feelings of attachment whilst trading this offseason. In addition we feel trading Aaron Hall back into this lineup is in accordance with our mantra. We see this as a Bellchambers for Hall swap. A Mountford for Milera swap and the other two for the other two. Our backline, whilst quite sturdy could use the stiffness gained by Mounting.

Toronto are clearly here to challenge for a premiership and their staff were committed to building some extra forward depth after a few DPP changes went away from them. Coach Adamant is always a little #CONCERNED about the health, fitness and playing capacity of NicNat. Adamant feels as though Belly could be the final piece of the premiership puzzle and wants that piece of mind of having some rock-solid ruck depth.

Confirmed.

If Nic Nat goes down my season is over. Belly averaged 105 against unrecognised/second tier rucks and 76.3 against the elite. He'll find himself at U2 when he comes up against rucks like Goldy. Mountford and Milera are the same age and averaged the same last year, purely a positional swap. The rest of the deal is Levi injecting some more youth at the expense of old depth.

Might just become the most important trade ever made in WXVs.
Maybe, if Lynden Dunn hadnt done his ACL
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Adamant on July 16, 2018, 11:20:20 PM
Quote from: iZander on July 16, 2018, 11:03:03 PM
Quote from: Adamant on July 16, 2018, 10:59:32 PM
Quote from: Adamant on January 17, 2018, 05:08:23 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on January 17, 2018, 04:40:51 PM
First trade of TP 2 here for y'all.

Toronto Wolves Trade: Declan Mountford, Jeremy Finlayson, Kyron Hayden, Aaron Hall
Rio de Janeiro Trade: Wayne Milera, Lynden Dunn, Jake Melksham, Tom Bellchambers

Here at Rio we despise player attachment. Henceforth we have ensured to negate all feelings of attachment whilst trading this offseason. In addition we feel trading Aaron Hall back into this lineup is in accordance with our mantra. We see this as a Bellchambers for Hall swap. A Mountford for Milera swap and the other two for the other two. Our backline, whilst quite sturdy could use the stiffness gained by Mounting.

Toronto are clearly here to challenge for a premiership and their staff were committed to building some extra forward depth after a few DPP changes went away from them. Coach Adamant is always a little #CONCERNED about the health, fitness and playing capacity of NicNat. Adamant feels as though Belly could be the final piece of the premiership puzzle and wants that piece of mind of having some rock-solid ruck depth.

Confirmed.

If Nic Nat goes down my season is over. Belly averaged 105 against unrecognised/second tier rucks and 76.3 against the elite. He'll find himself at U2 when he comes up against rucks like Goldy. Mountford and Milera are the same age and averaged the same last year, purely a positional swap. The rest of the deal is Levi injecting some more youth at the expense of old depth.

Might just become the most important trade ever made in WXVs.
Maybe, if Lynden Dunn hadnt done his ACL

Well obviously. Who else would I be talking about?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 18, 2018, 10:33:43 AM
Always a good read.

Stick or twist? The verdict on your club's over 30s http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-07-18/stick-or-twist-your-clubs-over30s

here is the list of GOs that have some fantasy relevance

Brendon Goddard - Berlin - would be a decent loss, especially as he never got DPP
Matthew Leuenberger - Toronto - with NN out, losing the Belly backup makes the ruck line more shakey
Michael Barlow - Islanders - done nothing this year but if he made 22 he would have been a big help
Jarrad Waite - Christchurch - when healthy has been a very good forward starter


Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: iZander on July 18, 2018, 10:44:34 AM
Quote from: Holz on July 18, 2018, 10:33:43 AM
Always a good read.

Stick or twist? The verdict on your club's over 30s http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-07-18/stick-or-twist-your-clubs-over30s

here is the list of GOs that have some fantasy relevance

Brendon Goddard - Berlin - would be a decent loss, especially as he never got DPP
Matthew Leuenberger - Toronto - with NN out, losing the Belly backup makes the ruck line more shakey
Michael Barlow - Islanders - done nothing this year but if he made 22 he would have been a big help
Jarrad Waite - Christchurch - when healthy has been a very good forward starter
Goddard wont go :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 18, 2018, 01:49:19 PM
He better not iZ, you were the reason why I got him  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: iZander on July 18, 2018, 01:58:59 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 18, 2018, 01:49:19 PM
He better not iZ, you were the reason why I got him  :P
Awww cmon, he was robbed of defender :( so were 7 or 8 others
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 18, 2018, 02:19:25 PM
Quote from: iZander on July 18, 2018, 01:58:59 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 18, 2018, 01:49:19 PM
He better not iZ, you were the reason why I got him  :P
Awww cmon, he was robbed of defender :( so were 7 or 8 others

pretty comfortable in saying Zander was right on this and Champion Data got it wrong.

At this rate im worried about Alex Rance becoming a mid only.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Adamant on July 18, 2018, 10:54:23 PM
Goddard won 71.3% of his disposals in the midfield last year, the second-highest percentage of his career. He also attended 35% of centre bounces, up from 25% in 2016. He wasn't robbed of anything.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: iZander on July 18, 2018, 10:57:35 PM
Quote from: Adamant on July 18, 2018, 10:54:23 PM
Goddard won 71.3% of his disposals in the midfield last year, the second-highest percentage of his career. He also attended 35% of centre bounces, up from 25% in 2016. He wasn't robbed of anything.
What were those percentages with first 6 rounds vs rest of the rounds
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Adamant on July 19, 2018, 02:48:39 PM
Quote from: iZander on July 18, 2018, 10:57:35 PM
Quote from: Adamant on July 18, 2018, 10:54:23 PM
Goddard won 71.3% of his disposals in the midfield last year, the second-highest percentage of his career. He also attended 35% of centre bounces, up from 25% in 2016. He wasn't robbed of anything.
What were those percentages with first 6 rounds vs rest of the rounds

Couldn't tell ya. That was just straight from his player profile in the Prospectus.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: iZander on July 19, 2018, 03:11:40 PM
Quote from: Adamant on July 19, 2018, 02:48:39 PM
Quote from: iZander on July 18, 2018, 10:57:35 PM
Quote from: Adamant on July 18, 2018, 10:54:23 PM
Goddard won 71.3% of his disposals in the midfield last year, the second-highest percentage of his career. He also attended 35% of centre bounces, up from 25% in 2016. He wasn't robbed of anything.
What were those percentages with first 6 rounds vs rest of the rounds

Couldn't tell ya. That was just straight from his player profile in the Prospectus.
Yeah he played pure mid first 6 rounds then moved behind ball
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: upthemaidens on July 23, 2018, 07:23:22 AM
Pre season Cup - Check
Africona Premiership - Check
AAP Alliance Premiership - Check
World Idol - Check
WXV Premiership - ?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Adamant on July 24, 2018, 12:22:17 AM
One-Man Band
Which top 8 team relies on their captain the most?











Team         No. of times captain has scored
   sub-100		   Average when captain scores
   sub-100		   Average when captain scores
   100+		   Diff
Toronto   4   146.8   150.4   +3.6
Pacific   4   141.3   152.6   +11.3
New Delhi   7   138.9   147.4   +8.5
Dublin   7   136.9   150.3   +14.1
Christchurch   7   132.1   139.6   +7.5
Berlin   3   130.3   142.3   +12
Beijing   4   128   145.9   +17.9
Seoul   1   128   145.1   +17.1
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Adamant on July 24, 2018, 12:53:58 AM
Pacific have a ceiling of 145 when Mitchell doesn't ton up but still have the second highest floor of all top 8 teams. As long as they don't come up against Toronto with a sub-100 captain they should be right. Having a good captain doesn't seem to phase New Delhi or Christchurch TOO much. Berlin's reliance on Fyfe and Gawn is on full display while Dublin and Beijing better nail their captaincy choice come finals otherwise they might as well not even show up. It would be unfair to read into Seoul's numbers too much given Danger has only scored below 100 just once and doesn't look like happening again.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 24, 2018, 07:40:56 AM
Kinda abit flawed since dublin hasnt even got a go to captain and pretty much the form team of the comp when you take out captains

Id say having my urilities score 180+ as opposed to 50 a bigger factor.

Also id love to see these numbers but with 140+ which is nailimg captaincy
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 24, 2018, 08:36:39 AM
Yeah I'm not sure those numbers really mean much

A captain going 100-120 etc isn't really a big deal - in fact it's expected

It's no real surprise really, if you've got Titch, Gawn, Grundy etc the highest scoring guys in the entire game then you've got a massive leg up every week and even more so when they go huge
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on July 24, 2018, 08:45:27 AM
#scrapthecap(tains)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on July 24, 2018, 11:49:29 AM
Everyone very quick to shut down this discussion but that definitely took a LOT of work and time. Very informative Adamant.

Overall, it is still interesting to see how different these scores are.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 24, 2018, 12:21:49 PM
Just looking at form heading in to the finals with HGA excluded and then secondly without captains to see who truly relies on their captain.

Form Power Rankings

1. Pacific  151.3
2. Dublin  151.1
3. Toronto 150.0
4. Beijing 144.5
5. Seoul 141.2
6. New Dehli 138.8
7. Berlin 130.5
8. Christchurch 126.6

Form Power Ranking Without Captain Bonus

1. Toronto 140.0
2. Dublin 139.6
3. Pacific 136.0
4. Beijing 132.0
5. Seoul 128.6
6. New Dehli 128.1
7. Berlin 117.5
8. Christchurch 116.2


140+ games without Captain

1. Dublin/Toronto 2
3. Beijing/Pacific 1
5. Seoul, NDT, Berlin, Christchurch 0

130+ games without Captain

1. Dublin/Toronto/Pacific 4
4. Beijing Seoul 2
6. NDT, Berlin Christchurch 1








Not too much surprising stuff there, Pacific clearly the team who has relied on the captain the most dropping from a #1 to a #3 when you take out the captain. Toronto looking the overall most solid side without a captain.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on July 24, 2018, 12:43:34 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 24, 2018, 12:21:49 PM
Just looking at form heading in to the finals with HGA excluded and then secondly without captains to see who truly relies on their captain.

Form Power Rankings

1. Pacific  151.3
2. Dublin  151.1
3. Toronto 150.0
4. Beijing 144.5
5. Seoul 141.2
6. New Dehli 138.8
7. Berlin 130.5
8. Christchurch 126.6

Form Power Ranking Without Captain Bonus

1. Toronto 140.0
2. Dublin 139.6
3. Pacific 136.0
4. Beijing 132.0
5. Seoul 128.6
6. New Dehli 128.1
7. Berlin 117.5
8. Christchurch 116.2


140+ games without Captain

1. Dublin/Toronto 2
3. Beijing/Pacific 1
5. Seoul, NDT, Berlin, Christchurch 0

130+ games without Captain

1. Dublin/Toronto/Pacific 4
4. Beijing Seoul 2
6. NDT, Berlin Christchurch 1








Not too much surprising stuff there, Pacific clearly the team who has relied on the captain the most dropping from a #1 to a #3 when you take out the captain. Toronto looking the overall most solid side without a captain.

Pretty irrelevant unless i missed the rule were we voted out captain bonus in finals...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 24, 2018, 12:52:44 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on July 24, 2018, 12:43:34 PM
Pretty irrelevant unless i missed the rule were we voted out captain bonus in finals...

Well it shows how much you rely on your captain.

So if your captain is matched by the other teams captain then it cancels out.

whats its saying if Toronto's captain can come within 40 points of Titch then Toronto should win. That actually hasnt happened in the last month.

However ill back Macrae + 40 against Titch.
Ill even back Dusty + 36 v Titch




Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: upthemaidens on July 24, 2018, 01:03:37 PM
A sample size of 4.  Yeah nah
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on July 24, 2018, 01:09:05 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on July 24, 2018, 01:03:37 PM
A sample size of 4.  Yeah nah
25% is a decent sample size m80
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 24, 2018, 01:13:00 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on July 24, 2018, 01:03:37 PM
A sample size of 4.  Yeah nah

will be interesting to see how accurate it is come finals

I have the ladder going this way

Round 1

Toronto def Seoul
Pacific def Beijing (very close could lose on HGA)
NDT def Christchurch
Dublin def Berlin

Round 2

Seoul def NDT
Dublin def Beijing (very close could lose on HGA)

Round 3

Toronto def Dublin (on HGA)
Pacific def Seoul

Round 4

Toronto def Pacific



Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: upthemaidens on July 24, 2018, 01:26:17 PM
TMitchell Last four matches   Ess, Geel, StK, Syd   More relevant if it's all about the Captain score.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 24, 2018, 02:22:23 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on July 24, 2018, 01:26:17 PM
TMitchell Last four matches   Ess, Geel, StK, Syd   More relevant if it's all about the Captain score.

Dons 127 116 = 122
Geel 148 136 85 = 123
Stk 126 117 = 122
Syd 72 98 105 = 92

122, 123, 122, 92 would be lovely.

Sydney in the Grand Final looms as a a danger game.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: upthemaidens on July 24, 2018, 02:30:05 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 24, 2018, 02:22:23 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on July 24, 2018, 01:26:17 PM
TMitchell Last four matches   Ess, Geel, StK, Syd   More relevant if it's all about the Captain score.

Dons 127 116 = 122
Geel 148 136 85 = 123
Stk 126 117 = 122
Syd 72 98 105 = 92

122, 123, 122, 92 would be lovely.

Sydney in the Grand Final looms as a a danger game.
The Bont plays Richmond if we make the Grand Final, could be a possible left field Captain pick.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 24, 2018, 02:53:11 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on July 24, 2018, 02:30:05 PM
The Bont plays Richmond if we make the Grand Final, could be a possible left field Captain pick.

Pity there isn't Free Agency in this comp or Gaff and Laird would walk after that insult.

Gaff has Lions
Laird has Carlton

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: upthemaidens on July 24, 2018, 02:56:57 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 24, 2018, 02:53:11 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on July 24, 2018, 02:30:05 PM
The Bont plays Richmond if we make the Grand Final, could be a possible left field Captain pick.

Pity there isn't Free Agency in this comp or Gaff and Laird would walk after that insult.

Gaff has Lions
Laird has Carlton
[/quote]Bont 136avg. vs Tigers
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on July 24, 2018, 04:34:55 PM
Y'all need to learn how to quote.

Do you even re-read or look over your post after you submit? Or you too lazy to see that you've made an error and fix it?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 24, 2018, 04:39:42 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on July 24, 2018, 04:34:55 PM
Y'all need to learn how to quote.

Do you even re-read or look over your post after you submit? Or you too lazy to see that you've made an error and fix it?
Hahah I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 24, 2018, 05:07:46 PM
Quote from: Nige on July 24, 2018, 04:39:42 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on July 24, 2018, 04:34:55 PM
Y'all need to learn how to quote.

Do you even re-read or look over your post after you submit? Or you too lazy to see that you've made an error and fix it?
[/quote][/quote]
Hahah I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way.
[/quote]
I agree
[/quote]
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on July 24, 2018, 05:34:31 PM
omg  holZ   i'm soo  floweringg triggerred pleaze  S''topp
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 24, 2018, 06:05:13 PM
I've asked you this once before Ada, and you said you DON'T keep your own stats.

Which if true, makes your work all the more remarkable! Thanks for those interesting insights!

I'm afraid I'll have to once again concede Berlin's season. With my shallow team, I won't be going past Week 1 of finals without Hibberd & Viney confirmed out, with possibly Fyfe not getting up in time too  :-\

Tis a relentless beast, Worlds.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on July 24, 2018, 06:12:05 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 24, 2018, 06:05:13 PM
I've asked you this once before Ada, and you said you DON'T keep your own stats.

Which if true, makes your work all the more remarkable! Thanks for those interesting insights!

I'm afraid I'll have to once again concede Berlin's season. With my shallow team, I won't be going past Week 1 of finals without Hibberd & Viney confirmed out, with possibly Fyfe not getting up in time too  :-\

Tis a relentless beast, Worlds.
I reckon I've just missed out on finals after the loss to Moscow :-\
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on July 24, 2018, 06:18:52 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 24, 2018, 06:12:05 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 24, 2018, 06:05:13 PM
I've asked you this once before Ada, and you said you DON'T keep your own stats.

Which if true, makes your work all the more remarkable! Thanks for those interesting insights!

I'm afraid I'll have to once again concede Berlin's season. With my shallow team, I won't be going past Week 1 of finals without Hibberd & Viney confirmed out, with possibly Fyfe not getting up in time too  :-\

Tis a relentless beast, Worlds.
I reckon I've just missed out on finals after the loss to Moscow :-\

You're the real winner of the bottom 10, 5th worst team, yet pick #1!  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on July 24, 2018, 06:23:03 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on July 24, 2018, 06:18:52 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 24, 2018, 06:12:05 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 24, 2018, 06:05:13 PM
I've asked you this once before Ada, and you said you DON'T keep your own stats.

Which if true, makes your work all the more remarkable! Thanks for those interesting insights!

I'm afraid I'll have to once again concede Berlin's season. With my shallow team, I won't be going past Week 1 of finals without Hibberd & Viney confirmed out, with possibly Fyfe not getting up in time too  :-\

Tis a relentless beast, Worlds.
I reckon I've just missed out on finals after the loss to Moscow :-\

You're the real winner of the bottom 10, 5th worst team, yet pick #1!  ;)
Don't tell anyone, but i was actually the one who injured Mills outside the cafe
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on July 24, 2018, 06:25:32 PM
It takes a special kind of shower to lose some of the games I've lost across wxvs and bxvs
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on July 24, 2018, 06:26:53 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 24, 2018, 06:25:32 PM
It takes a special kind of shower to lose some of the games I've lost across wxvs and bxvs
So special it just might be golden. A golden shower. I should trademark that or something.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 24, 2018, 06:49:17 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 24, 2018, 06:26:53 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 24, 2018, 06:25:32 PM
It takes a special kind of shower to lose some of the games I've lost across wxvs and bxvs
So special it just might be golden. A golden shower. I should trademark that or something.

Heh
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on July 24, 2018, 11:22:01 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 24, 2018, 06:05:13 PM
I'm afraid I'll have to once again concede Berlin's season. With my shallow team, I won't be going past Week 1 of finals without Hibberd & Viney confirmed out, with possibly Fyfe not getting up in time too  :-\

Tis a relentless beast, Worlds.

Sounds stupid sitting in 2nd at the moment but I've lost too many first-choice defenders this year (due to poor form or injury) to challenge much in the finals I think :-\ It's one thing having our midfield fit and firing but I can't have spuds like Roarke Smith and Tom Clurey playing down back if I'm to match it with the big guns.

Tom Jonas (90 avg, injured), Tom Cutler (82 avg, suspended), James Aish (75 avg, injured), Sam Mayes (80 avg last year, dropped), Jayden Hunt (70 avg last year, dropped)

Then backups: Easton Wood (injured), Jackson Thurlow (killing two's, no opportunity at Geelong), Tom Williamson (injured), Ciaran Byrne (injured)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 24, 2018, 11:25:28 PM
Quote from: Toga on July 24, 2018, 11:22:01 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 24, 2018, 06:05:13 PM
I'm afraid I'll have to once again concede Berlin's season. With my shallow team, I won't be going past Week 1 of finals without Hibberd & Viney confirmed out, with possibly Fyfe not getting up in time too  :-\

Tis a relentless beast, Worlds.

Sounds stupid sitting in 2nd at the moment but I've lost too many first-choice defenders this year (due to poor form or injury) to challenge much in the finals I think :-\ It's one thing having our midfield fit and firing but I can't have spuds like Roarke Smith and Tom Clurey playing down back if I'm to match it with the big guns.

Tom Jonas (90 avg, injured), James Aish (75 avg, injured), Sam Mayes (80 avg last year, dropped), Jayden Hunt (70 avg last year, dropped)

Then backups: Easton Wood (injured), Jackson Thurlow (killing two's, no opportunity at Geelong), Tom Williamson (injured), Ciaran Byrne (injured)

Sounds like you need to bring in some defenders, and can probably offload a mid

We should talk  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on July 24, 2018, 11:27:56 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 24, 2018, 11:25:28 PM
Quote from: Toga on July 24, 2018, 11:22:01 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 24, 2018, 06:05:13 PM
I'm afraid I'll have to once again concede Berlin's season. With my shallow team, I won't be going past Week 1 of finals without Hibberd & Viney confirmed out, with possibly Fyfe not getting up in time too  :-\

Tis a relentless beast, Worlds.

Sounds stupid sitting in 2nd at the moment but I've lost too many first-choice defenders this year (due to poor form or injury) to challenge much in the finals I think :-\ It's one thing having our midfield fit and firing but I can't have spuds like Roarke Smith and Tom Clurey playing down back if I'm to match it with the big guns.

Tom Jonas (90 avg, injured), James Aish (75 avg, injured), Sam Mayes (80 avg last year, dropped), Jayden Hunt (70 avg last year, dropped)

Then backups: Easton Wood (injured), Jackson Thurlow (killing two's, no opportunity at Geelong), Tom Williamson (injured), Ciaran Byrne (injured)

Sounds like you need to bring in some defenders, and can probably offload a mid

We should talk  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on July 24, 2018, 11:31:32 PM
Getting just two of the above back would be pretty handy but might have to chat at the end of the year ;)

Edit forgot Tommy Cutler as well :D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on July 24, 2018, 11:40:25 PM
After i trade pick 1 for Andrews I'll have harris, lmac, mills, blicavs, Carlisle, showertard, bowes. I'm sure we won't work something out toges.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on July 24, 2018, 11:55:30 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 24, 2018, 11:40:25 PM
showertard

;D ;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on July 25, 2018, 08:11:07 AM
Quote from: Toga on July 24, 2018, 11:22:01 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 24, 2018, 06:05:13 PM
I'm afraid I'll have to once again concede Berlin's season. With my shallow team, I won't be going past Week 1 of finals without Hibberd & Viney confirmed out, with possibly Fyfe not getting up in time too  :-\

Tis a relentless beast, Worlds.

Sounds stupid sitting in 2nd at the moment but I've lost too many first-choice defenders this year (due to poor form or injury) to challenge much in the finals I think :-\ It's one thing having our midfield fit and firing but I can't have spuds like Roarke Smith and Tom Clurey playing down back if I'm to match it with the big guns.


Meanwhile the premiership favourites are likely to welcome back Stringer, Sandilands, Darcy, Griffen, Moore, Stewart, Andrews and McKenna this week with McVeigh a chance for the first week of finals.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 02, 2018, 06:49:46 AM
how long can a coach have a team and have no success at all? looks at Tokyo

thought wxv was meant to be prestigious
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 02, 2018, 08:34:00 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 02, 2018, 06:49:46 AM
how long can a coach have a team and have no success at all? looks at Tokyo

thought wxv was meant to be prestigious

Shots fired!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on August 02, 2018, 08:39:58 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 02, 2018, 06:49:46 AM
how long can a coach have a team and have no success at all? looks at Tokyo

thought wxv was meant to be prestigious
I believe it can be modeled by the equation; y = 2x + 1, where y is the number of consecutive years without success, and x is the number of consecutive years where you complain about not being a wxvs coach
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 02, 2018, 09:22:02 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 02, 2018, 06:49:46 AM
how long can a coach have a team and have no success at all? looks at Tokyo

thought wxv was meant to be prestigious

Tokyo just took out the Asian cup.

Taking out NDT Seoul Jing.

That is some achievement its not like they are in the weak AAP conference.

Zach Williams back next year. Whitfield getting dpp. Just a shame they wont get a top pick as they almost made finals.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Boomz on August 02, 2018, 12:19:53 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 02, 2018, 06:49:46 AM
how long can a coach have a team and have no success at all? looks at Tokyo

thought wxv was meant to be prestigious

How many times can someone apply for a Worlds team without success... Salty much.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 02, 2018, 01:13:47 PM
Quote from: Boomz on August 02, 2018, 12:19:53 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 02, 2018, 06:49:46 AM
how long can a coach have a team and have no success at all? looks at Tokyo

thought wxv was meant to be prestigious

How many times can someone apply for a Worlds team without success... Salty much.
snap
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 02, 2018, 01:17:38 PM
maybe i am salty but i know i'm not wrong

2013 = 14th
2014 = 13th
2015 = 10th
2016 = 16th
2017 = 17th
2018 = 10th

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 02, 2018, 01:31:54 PM
now lets look at London Royals

2012 = 10th
2013 = 10th
2014 = 11th
2015 = 13th
2016 = 14th
2017 = 16th
2018 = 17th
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 02, 2018, 01:47:51 PM
Self sabotaging are we KB?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 02, 2018, 01:54:48 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 02, 2018, 01:47:51 PM
Self sabotaging are we KB?

inspiration from survivor last night
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on August 02, 2018, 02:07:43 PM
How do your WXVs results stack up against them kb?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 02, 2018, 02:10:33 PM
Quote from: GoLions on August 02, 2018, 02:07:43 PM
How do your WXVs results stack up against them kb?

i'd say all of mine are respected and all made finals and a chance to be premiers
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on August 02, 2018, 02:12:09 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 02, 2018, 02:10:33 PM
Quote from: GoLions on August 02, 2018, 02:07:43 PM
How do your WXVs results stack up against them kb?

i'd say all of mine are respected and all made finals and a chance to be premiers
Wowee, how many WXVs teams do you have?! I had no idea!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 02, 2018, 02:13:24 PM
good  one bro real good
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: fanTCfool on August 02, 2018, 04:59:07 PM
Personally I think London, Tokyo and their respective coaches are doing a terrific job  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on August 02, 2018, 05:04:06 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on August 02, 2018, 04:59:07 PM
Personally I think London, Tokyo and their respective coaches are doing a terrific job  ;)
I love your attitude fanTCfool! :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 02, 2018, 05:05:36 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on August 02, 2018, 04:59:07 PM
Personally I think London, Tokyo and their respective coaches are doing a terrific job  ;)

hear hear

Rio though

Premiership, Knocked out First Round, Didn't Make Finals


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Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: iZander on August 02, 2018, 05:10:20 PM
Quote from: GoLions on August 02, 2018, 05:04:06 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on August 02, 2018, 04:59:07 PM
Personally I think London, Tokyo and their respective coaches are doing a terrific job  ;)
I love your attitude fanTCfool! :)
This sounds more like a man who wants a WXV position if you ask me!! :D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 02, 2018, 05:36:41 PM
thought you guys liked banter
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 02, 2018, 05:44:50 PM
A reminder to those that haven't, to please respond to my latest pm.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 02, 2018, 06:15:24 PM
Balic retired

Glad we traded him as the steak knives to get that deal done last year
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Levi434 on August 02, 2018, 06:36:19 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 02, 2018, 05:05:36 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on August 02, 2018, 04:59:07 PM
Personally I think London, Tokyo and their respective coaches are doing a terrific job  ;)

hear hear

Rio though

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Rio are the most unlucky team in WXV history. Every single year we've had bulk injuries or bullshower. That has cost us 4 flags.

2015: Ablett, Chapman, Waters, HMac, KCornes
2016: Ablett, Sauce, Bob, Mackie, KK, L.Taylor
2017: Cripps, SThompson, J.Kelly, M.Boyd, KK
2018: Hall, JCameron, Jacobs, Maynard, Brayshaw

Every single person here missed multiple games during that respective year. Pretty much every single person here is/was a premo and would have helped us win the flag.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 07, 2018, 11:28:49 AM

7: Out 6-7 weeks
8:
9: Out for 4 weeks
10:
11
12: Out for 4 weeks
13:
14: 4 weeks
15 3 - 4 weeks
16
17
18
19: 2 - 4 weeks
20 2- 4 weeks

not sure they understand what a week is. Been a 4 week injury since round 9 and now its still possibly a 4 week injury.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on August 07, 2018, 11:53:55 AM
Quote from: Holz on August 07, 2018, 11:28:49 AM

7: Out 6-7 weeks
8:
9: Out for 4 weeks
10:
11
12: Out for 4 weeks
13:
14: 4 weeks
15 3 - 4 weeks
16
17
18
19: 2 - 4 weeks
20 2- 4 weeks

not sure they understand what a week is. Been a 4 week injury since round 9 and now its still possibly a 4 week injury.
Who is this about? Injury Magee?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 07, 2018, 12:12:50 PM
Quote from: GoLions on August 07, 2018, 11:53:55 AM
Quote from: Holz on August 07, 2018, 11:28:49 AM

7: Out 6-7 weeks
8:
9: Out for 4 weeks
10:
11
12: Out for 4 weeks
13:
14: 4 weeks
15 3 - 4 weeks
16
17
18
19: 2 - 4 weeks
20 2- 4 weeks

not sure they understand what a week is. Been a 4 week injury since round 9 and now its still possibly a 4 week injury.
Who is this about? Injury Magee?

Birchall

im fine if he is injured.

just say he is injured. not 4 weeks away for 11 weeks.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on August 07, 2018, 12:15:58 PM
He's injured
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on August 07, 2018, 12:18:38 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 07, 2018, 12:15:58 PM
He's injured
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 07, 2018, 12:19:31 PM
Quote from: Toga on August 07, 2018, 12:18:38 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 07, 2018, 12:15:58 PM
He's injured

clearly its not a 4 week injury then.

perhaps it was a typo and it was 4 months.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 07, 2018, 01:02:43 PM
Does it even matter?

Phil Davis is probably a better choice then Birch these days

Birch is cooked - surprised you haven't already moved on
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 07, 2018, 01:14:10 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 07, 2018, 01:02:43 PM
Does it even matter?

Phil Davis is probably a better choice then Birch these days

Birch is cooked - surprised you haven't already moved on

its a bigger issue of misleading injury reports.

I wouldn't have minded him last week when i played Omac as May was suspended. You are right though i wont need him at all from next year onward.

Majak Daw 85 107 70 111 92 = 93 5 round average
Stephen Hill will be a defender
Jack Henry will be a defender
Phil Davis will stay




Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on August 07, 2018, 10:52:03 PM
From what I've heard they've had Birch doing a mini preseason from about round 12. So really they're playing it by ear. I suppose they really should have TBC or something there but if you read up on his situation it does become more clear
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Adamant on August 08, 2018, 09:20:02 PM
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Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 08, 2018, 09:40:06 PM
Lets not forget about may
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 08, 2018, 09:44:31 PM
Lol Ada

May's actually a good SC player and not someone you've been flogging which is why he didn't get mentioned ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 08, 2018, 10:15:43 PM
(https://i.giphy.com/media/14dXclYKbx2ONW/giphy.webp)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 13, 2018, 10:30:29 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 08, 2018, 09:44:31 PM
Lol Ada

May's actually a good SC player and not someone you've been flogging which is why he didn't get mentioned ;)

I have actually been offering May up for trade and im not shopping Daw around.

85 107 70 111 92 101 = 94 average last 6 weeks.

Id say those are pretty good SC numbers from Daw. I do talk about him abit but how good he has been and how i can afford to trade other defenders because of him.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: upthemaidens on August 24, 2018, 01:28:25 AM
Something didn't smell right.  Those Toronto/Rio trades were laughable.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: upthemaidens on August 24, 2018, 02:57:47 AM
Christchurch and Cape town as well.   Anyone else?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 24, 2018, 09:08:28 AM
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 24, 2018, 02:57:47 AM
Christchurch and Cape town as well.   Anyone else?

What do you mean cape town?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on August 24, 2018, 09:14:58 AM
Quote from: Holz on August 24, 2018, 09:08:28 AM
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 24, 2018, 02:57:47 AM
Christchurch and Cape town as well.   Anyone else?

What do you mean cape town?
UTM is on to us clearly. This must be why he never makes any useful trades, because the other 17 teams are all the same person.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on August 25, 2018, 01:27:23 AM
Surely the redraft will be a three way with London involved since they're the most hopeless team in all the land.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 25, 2018, 01:43:08 PM
Just an idea

With 2 new teams about the enter - as this is "Worlds" why don't we have the two new teams based in Australia and Antarctica, then we can truly be Worlds having covered all 7 continents?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on August 25, 2018, 05:40:25 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 25, 2018, 01:43:08 PM
Just an idea

With 2 new teams about the enter - as this is "Worlds" why don't we have the two new teams based in Australia and Antarctica, then we can truly be Worlds having covered all 7 continents?
By technicality, NZ (C'Church) are technically on the Australian continent, so Antarctica is the only one you need to fill.

Eskimoes could work? But then you lose the history of the two clubs in some ways.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 25, 2018, 06:22:34 PM
Not exactly realistic to base a team in Antarctica though.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: iZander on August 25, 2018, 06:24:47 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 25, 2018, 06:22:34 PM
Not exactly realistic to base a team in Antarctica though.
Its not realistic to base an AFL team anywhere other than Australia, of which their are no teams

You think AFLX is gonna make other countries get into AFL, pffft
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: fanTCfool on August 25, 2018, 06:25:10 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 25, 2018, 06:22:34 PM
Not exactly realistic to base a team in Antarctica though.

Would make a pretty good home ground advantage  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 25, 2018, 08:13:38 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 25, 2018, 01:43:08 PM
Just an idea

With 2 new teams about the enter - as this is "Worlds" why don't we have the two new teams based in Australia and Antarctica, then we can truly be Worlds having covered all 7 continents?

Valid point, I don't mind the idea of re-branding.

The only reason why I'm hesitant, is that both clubs have had a re-structure in their history, and feel a second change kinda harms their history.

I think I'll let the new coaches decide whether they want a new character name, though.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: WXV Media on August 26, 2018, 05:53:23 PM
EXCLUSIVE: Interview with recently departed WXV coach Levi434.

WXV Media sat down with Levi434 in an exclusive tell-all interview since that fateful night of Thursday, August 23. Levi reveals everything from the people behind the accounts, to their original plan for 2019 and of course the motives behind leaving World XVs in a state of disarray, before deactivating their account.

WXV Media: Thanks for doing this Levi. The question on everyone’s lips - what exactly happened on Thursday night? Levi, can you give a rundown of the night as you saw it?

Levi: Thursday was suppose to be FanFooty’s night of nights. The night that I look forward to most in the year. I spend hours on end researching, collating, formatting, making memes, sending out superlatives and everything to make it as good as I can. In turn ruining my own night because I know exactly what was to happen. No excitement or suspense for me.

The night was set to commence at 9PM AEST. I went on to discord at 8:40 to build hype but there were only 5 coaches present. I already had a feeling that the night would be a major disappointment. I began to question if I had done anything wrong, forgotten to post anything or if people simply didn’t care.

Nevertheless, I continued with Awards Night. Posting the round intros, round-by-round results, the leaderboard all whilst continuing to chat on discord. The night was going well regardless of the fewer numbers.

At this point the night started to go downhill. A few people in the discord chat decided to make the night all about themselves.

Unfortunately despite the fact we are living in 2018, I can still sense the misogynistic, sexist undertones of being called out for my lifestyle. My music taste was belittled and mocked. When I sent out the superlatives, the number of coaches who made homophobic or sexist comments in relation to the question “If you had to marry a WXV coach who would you choose?” was disgraceful.

The ever present toxic masculinity on this website drove me to becoming fearful of who I am. Despite the fact that no one here knows who I am, I felt like coming on here was fun and a simply way to get away from the daily subversion I feel. Being a homosexual male who is contemplating transitioning is a perfect excuse for narrow-minded individuals to turn on their “gay-dar”, slur or to force us into certain corners of society.

I noticed some more subversion and disregard being directed towards one of our fellow coaches, Adamant. At this point I contacted Adamant and reassured them that I didn’t want them to leave. I told Adamant that the vibe being displayed in the discord chat was NOT a representation of the community and that I could tell that a certain few others felt the same way.

Here we decided that this wasn’t something we wanted to be apart of. We devised a plan to leave this place behind us once and for all.

WXV Media: You mean to tell us that all of this was an impulsive idea?

Levi: Of course it was. You really think that my big announcement was this? I had an announcement planned that would have shifted WXV to new levels. I was originally planning to create a new thread in WXV. I was going to be called “The WXV Themepark.”  It would have basically been a year-long Awards Night. There would have been; Weekly Superlatives, WXV Confessions/Thoughts, WXV Yes/No, Tag-a-bles, Memes, Starterpacks, Rule tryouts, Fun minigames, ‘Who said this’ game, Rolling Stynes Medal, New Awards and so much more.

WXV Media: What has happened from just a few days ago when you were considering creating Continental XVs?

Levi: It's honestly sad how much effort I put into awards night amongst other things. Counting votes is a nightmare. It's heartbreaking to think about. Going through every round putting all the players into their team and sort that. And then having to format it all. Send out and tally superlatives. Make write-ups for each round. But I was fine doing that. I wanted WXV to be the pinnacle competition and was willing to admin and run it. I love WXV and wanted it to be absolutely amazing.

WXV Media: So you and Adamant are definitely NOT the same person?

I’ve never actually met Adamant before in my life. If we passed each other on the street we wouldn’t recognise each other. For whatever reason we’ve simply become friends through FF and it’s gone from there. It’s not dissimilar to how Purp and Zander are friends. Nor HP and Daz or RD and AK.

All of our trades were fair and realistic at the time. How was I suppose to know that trading Alex Witherden for James Kelly would look so bad in hindsight? At the time Alex Witherden was Pick 29 who hadn’t played a game and was coming off a broken leg. James Kelly was coming off a 95 averaging season as a defender and Rio were chasing a second flag.

Also why wouldn't we just send Cripps and Yeo to Toronto and just completely stack one team?

WXV Media: Have you been in contact with Adamant since then?

Levi: I have no way of contacting Adamant as I’ve said, we do not know each other outside of FF. Having said that, Adamant if you are reading this, I would really like you to share your point of view of the whole situation in the coming weeks.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 31, 2018, 08:49:11 AM
Nothing positive to say? I’m honoured someone hates me that much, that’s literally never happened before haha.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Koop on September 01, 2018, 05:26:22 PM
So as most know, I'm currently off-season trade advisory/semi-assistant at Cairo, it's a pleasant, banterful environment apart from the fact that Nige is a bit of a tool, and it's been good to get a little window into the WXV over the last few years.

I am however, after consideration, happy to look at moving somewhere that requires a more active assistant presence in order to get a better understanding/be more heavily involved as a 2IC moving forward.

I love to trade & specialise in youth & picking breakout seasons in order to maximise value from trades. I'm an avid watcher/researcher throughout the year of both the lower leagues & of draft prospects, and feel I can bring a fair bit to the table for someone looking for some help.

Plus I also have an AFL live pass, so I'm your heat map guy for predicting DPP's. :P

Please don't hesitate to contact me if you're looking for a new assistant. :)

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: BB67th on September 03, 2018, 06:05:08 PM
After missing out on one of the coaching roles, I'm keen to still get a bit more involved with the WXV competition.

If there are any clubs out there looking for an assistant through the trading/drafting periods, please send me a pm :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on September 13, 2018, 06:11:23 PM
If I delist Ablett but remained within the cap is that acceptable? Or will I be done for taking, even though the cap is there to prohibit tanking?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on September 13, 2018, 08:28:02 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 13, 2018, 06:11:23 PM
If I delist Ablett but remained within the cap is that acceptable? Or will I be done for taking, even though the cap is there to prohibit tanking?

You'd have a net loss, so you wouldn't be taking anything.

Tanking on the other hand... interesting. A PM would be sent at the very least.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on September 14, 2018, 10:17:10 AM
R1
1 rb: S Pendlebury - Current Dubliner
2 PB: D Swan
3 CF: G Ablett jnr
4 pot: M Murphy - Past Dubliner
5 P77: L Franklin- Past Dubliner
6 MC: J Selwood - Current Dubliner
7 Crok: C Judd
8 Sid: N Fyfe - On a Dublin List
9 ML: T Goldstein - Current Dubliner
10 CM: M Hurley
11 meow: N Naitanui
12 M24: B Goddard
13 FS: T Rockliff - Past Dubliner
14 Hlpz: M Priddis
15 Holz: S Mumford - Past Dubliner
16 BB: A Swallow
17 Oz: B Gibbs
18 Boomz: T Cloke

just one more to complete the 50%

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on September 14, 2018, 11:07:50 AM
Cloke for Pendles.

Post it up.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 28, 2018, 02:46:29 PM
Will be in the US for 3 weeks, apologies if I'm slow in replying to trades and votes.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on September 28, 2018, 06:03:39 PM
Hey all, just letting you know that the great man that is Koop (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php?action=profile;u=11216) will be joining me as an assistant at Beijing!

Figure it's a good way to get another worthy future coach involved and will provide me some much needed help particularly during the trade period. We will be going over any existing trade offers together but feel free to reach out to him or myself in the meantime! :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 28, 2018, 06:39:21 PM
@Purps can this move be negged because Coop never handed in a resignation?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Koop on September 29, 2018, 12:35:46 AM
Quote from: Nige on September 28, 2018, 06:39:21 PM
@Purps can this move be negged because Coop never handed in a resignation?

uw0tm9?


But yeah, holla  8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on October 04, 2018, 05:29:42 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-10-04/afl-brings-in-midseason-rookie-draft-for-2019-

hmm interesting
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on October 05, 2018, 08:36:43 AM
Yeah I did think about what that means for us.

I guess probably nothing... They enter the draft pool at the end of the year I guess. We'll see what happens.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on October 15, 2018, 02:34:30 PM
I'll take one Sam Collins thanks.

I assume he isn't allowed to be traded until after the draft @PurpleBollard?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 15, 2018, 02:41:35 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 15, 2018, 02:34:30 PM
I'll take one Sam Collins thanks.

I assume he isn't allowed to be traded until after the draft @PurpleBollard?

Always thought he was really stiff to be dropped by Freo

Good to see him getting another chance at AFL, because there's certainly players worse than him on lists
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on October 15, 2018, 08:03:11 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 15, 2018, 02:34:30 PM
I'll take one Sam Collins thanks.

I assume he isn't allowed to be traded until after the draft @PurpleBollard?

Hmm. Probably, yeah. I was thinking the other day of letting players like Collins be traded, but feel they are made official after AFL list lodgements, so as such, would only be made available after the drafts.

So yes, you're correct.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on October 20, 2018, 12:49:18 PM
Also, officially announcing Vinny is no longer a coach of Buenos Aires, due to inactivity.

iZander is now the sole coach for all intents and purposes.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on October 24, 2018, 04:37:01 PM
I would like to announce that I have a new assistant coach. Please welcome him to the WXV community!

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php?action=profile;u=10797
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: PowerBug on November 17, 2018, 06:20:14 PM
Apparently Zac Clarke was on Rio's list when he was delisted, so I get first dibs at him if I want? Do I need to do anything important or is this post saying that I want him enough?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 17, 2018, 06:27:29 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on November 17, 2018, 06:20:14 PM
Apparently Zac Clarke was on Rio's list when he was delisted, so I get first dibs at him if I want? Do I need to do anything important or is this post saying that I want him enough?

Pretty sure it's enough. GL did the same for Collins a few posts above

Pretty handy get!

Edit: Do guys like Collins and Clarke come in at their previous cap value, or just 100k?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 17, 2018, 07:39:38 PM
We’ll be taking Sausage Mumford back to improve club culture.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on November 17, 2018, 07:56:25 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 17, 2018, 06:27:29 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on November 17, 2018, 06:20:14 PM
Apparently Zac Clarke was on Rio's list when he was delisted, so I get first dibs at him if I want? Do I need to do anything important or is this post saying that I want him enough?

Pretty sure it's enough. GL did the same for Collins a few posts above

Pretty handy get!

Edit: Do guys like Collins and Clarke come in at their previous cap value, or just 100k?
New calculated cap value
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on November 17, 2018, 09:40:24 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on November 17, 2018, 06:20:14 PM
Apparently Zac Clarke was on Rio's list when he was delisted, so I get first dibs at him if I want? Do I need to do anything important or is this post saying that I want him enough?

It'll be official once you name him in your list lodgement, and I've finalised all of them in preparation for the draft.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 18, 2018, 11:16:08 PM
Flex by showing us your brand new XVs after the trade period, you know you want to.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: iZander on November 18, 2018, 11:25:00 PM
Def: Webster, Doedee, Macmillan, Hooker
Mid: Parker (C), Wines, Gibbs, ECurnow
Ruck: Jacobs
Forward: Parish, Hayward, Cerra, ???Bennell (Rayner)
Int: Berry, Dumont

Emg: ABrayshaw, Talia, Bonar, ROB
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on November 18, 2018, 11:33:11 PM
DEF: Harris, Burgoyne, Mills, Carlisle
MID: Duncan, Higgins, Cunnington, Touk
RUCK: Nank
FWD: ANB, Papley, Squizz, Kent
UTIL: Ebert, Grigg

EMG: Conca, Lmac, Ainsworth
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Koop on November 18, 2018, 11:40:45 PM
DEF: Shaw, Jonas, DBJ, Aish/Ellis/Adams (who knows lol)
MID: Neale, Ward, Zorko, Swallow
RUC: Grundy
FWD: Caddy, Breust, T.Walker, Simpkin
UTL: Rockliff, Lambert

POS?: Cutler

EMG: D.Howe, Ellis/Adams, D.Rioli
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on November 19, 2018, 09:11:29 AM
A.Rance J.HOWE S.May J.MCVEIGH
D.Martin M.Crouch R.Sloane J.Selwood
T.Goldstien
J.Gunston T.McDonald T.GREENE J.Riewoldt
B.Crouch J.STEVEN

M.Daw B.Deledio G.Birchall
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 19, 2018, 09:21:02 AM
Gov, Robbo, Stewart, Vlastuin
Beams, Adams, Zaha, Clugg
Mummy
Brown, Lobb, Robbo, Melk
Greenwood, McGrath
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on November 21, 2018, 02:43:49 PM
The saviour of Pacific's fwd line, Michael Apeness, has announced his retirement.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: iZander on November 21, 2018, 04:11:58 PM
Quote from: GoLions on November 21, 2018, 02:43:49 PM
The saviour of Pacific's fwd line, Michael Apeness, has announced his retirement.
Thats ok, Devon Smith will hold it together :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on November 21, 2018, 04:19:00 PM
Quote from: iZander on November 21, 2018, 04:11:58 PM
Quote from: GoLions on November 21, 2018, 02:43:49 PM
The saviour of Pacific's fwd line, Michael Apeness, has announced his retirement.
Thats ok, Devon Smith will hold it together :P

yeah so Smith is an OOP 50 at f3 so what about f4?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on November 22, 2018, 12:53:03 AM
Lloyd, Hurn, Savage, Houli
Pendlebury, Sidebottom, Brayshaw, Hannebery
Stef
Menegola, Gray, Darling, JMartin
Langdon, Dahlhaus
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on November 22, 2018, 12:11:34 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 21, 2018, 04:19:00 PM
Quote from: iZander on November 21, 2018, 04:11:58 PM
Quote from: GoLions on November 21, 2018, 02:43:49 PM
The saviour of Pacific's fwd line, Michael Apeness, has announced his retirement.
Thats ok, Devon Smith will hold it together :P

yeah so Smith is an OOP 50 at f3 so what about f4?

Hahaha bang
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on November 23, 2018, 08:10:49 PM
so purps
what will we do if a delisted player is picked up in the Pre-Season Supplemental Selection Period
which runs from
December 1 through until March 15 next year

does the former club just get them if they wish them

example, you have goddard, your going to delist him as no club
but if he gets picked up after our drafts etc say in January, you just get an extra player?

for what it is worth i reckon this is the way to go, as clarke and mumford already going to former teams etc and lists will be filled anyways
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on November 24, 2018, 10:22:51 AM
Good point!

Yeah I'd be happy with that. If they get picked up during that period only, and provided they were on your list last, then yeah they can get added to your list (if your salary cap allows it)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: AaronKirk on November 27, 2018, 11:38:14 AM
Hi All,

After careful consideration which has been going on for quite a while now I have decided that I will no longer be continuing as co-coach of New York.

Work and life commitments have got to the point where my contribution to the coaching of the team is near non-existent and it really is not fair on RD that I continue to to be in the role.

This probably should have happened 12 months ago but anyways.

The breaking point I guess is that we have the draft coming up and some valuable picks in the top 10.  I have just had my work contract extended again for another year and I will be flat out until Christmas and then will be going away for 3 weeks (will be working when away) and don't have the time to contribute to make the best drafting decisions.

This has been a very enjoyable experience and a great fun over the last 4 years and hopefully in the future (maybe in an assistant role) I can come back into WXV.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 27, 2018, 01:40:46 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on November 27, 2018, 11:38:14 AM
Hi All,

After careful consideration which has been going on for quite a while now I have decided that I will no longer be continuing as co-coach of New York.

Work and life commitments have got to the point where my contribution to the coaching of the team is near non-existent and it really is not fair on RD that I continue to to be in the role.

This probably should have happened 12 months ago but anyways.

The breaking point I guess is that we have the draft coming up and some valuable picks in the top 10.  I have just had my work contract extended again for another year and I will be flat out until Christmas and then will be going away for 3 weeks (will be working when away) and don't have the time to contribute to make the best drafting decisions.

This has been a very enjoyable experience and a great fun over the last 4 years and hopefully in the future (maybe in an assistant role) I can come back into WXV.

We've spoken about this via PM at length, even last year too, but I just want to publicly thank AK

We've got along really well from the very first day we took over NY, and it's going to be weird without him, but I'm sure we'll see him back one day :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on November 27, 2018, 02:52:58 PM
Thanks for being a part of the comp AK! You slotted in perfectly from day dot, and I never had a bad experience with you.

All the best!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on November 30, 2018, 06:24:50 PM
Compo
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on November 30, 2018, 09:08:01 PM
Danger <3
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on December 01, 2018, 12:18:40 AM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 30, 2018, 09:08:01 PM
Danger <3

And McLean

If Seoul doesn't win the 2019 flag, you never will
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on December 01, 2018, 01:48:27 PM
Sicily, Newman, Weitering, AKennedy
Hunter, BHill, Dunstan, Miles
Hickey
Petracca, Worpel, MWood, Murdoch
Walsh, Graham
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on December 01, 2018, 02:17:05 PM
Dylan Roberton, Nick Vlastuin, Tom Stewart, Jeremy McGovern
Dayne Beams, Taylor Adams, David Zaharakis, Hugh McCluggage
Shane Mumford
Ben Brown, Shane Edwards, Mitch Robinson, Rory Lobb
Hugh Greenwood, Andrew McGrath
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: fanTCfool on December 08, 2018, 01:23:52 AM
RD has not taken AK's departure well  :(

(https://i.ibb.co/vdTx3Mp/image.jpg)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: fanTCfool on December 08, 2018, 01:26:34 AM
We also have this bad boy for future reference, watch out in 2020

(https://i.ibb.co/6n4rMrk/image.jpg)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 08, 2018, 01:32:30 AM
Quote from: fanTCfool on December 08, 2018, 01:26:34 AM
We also have this bad boy for future reference, watch out in 2020

(https://i.ibb.co/6n4rMrk/image.jpg)

What's a juggernaught?

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on December 08, 2018, 03:48:55 AM
Quote from: Holz on December 08, 2018, 01:32:30 AM
Quote from: fanTCfool on December 08, 2018, 01:26:34 AM
We also have this bad boy for future reference, watch out in 2020

(https://i.ibb.co/6n4rMrk/image.jpg)

What's a juggernaught?
ask Scott Watters
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on December 08, 2018, 08:46:11 AM
Context is a wonderful thing

(https://i.imgur.com/Z3C9jds.png)

But hey, at least I'll have fun building my own list. Doesn't take much skill to ride Ada's coattails
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on December 08, 2018, 09:42:44 AM
Ummm wow, language. There are Torps present.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on December 08, 2018, 10:50:58 AM
Winner doesn't matter.

Must be a New York thing - Knicks - Jets - Revolution
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on December 08, 2018, 12:35:14 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 08, 2018, 10:50:58 AM
Winner doesn't matter.

Must be a New York thing - Knicks - Jets - Revolution

Haha  ;D

I'll actually care about winning when there's actually something to win ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: elephants on December 08, 2018, 03:01:37 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 08, 2018, 12:35:14 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 08, 2018, 10:50:58 AM
Winner doesn't matter.

Must be a New York thing - Knicks - Jets - Revolution

Haha  ;D

I'll actually care about winning when there's actually something to win ;)

#sackRD for not caring about WXV
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on December 08, 2018, 03:50:04 PM
if your not 1st your last
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on December 08, 2018, 06:57:46 PM
Gotta be in it to win it!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on December 09, 2018, 12:16:02 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 08, 2018, 12:35:14 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 08, 2018, 10:50:58 AM
Winner doesn't matter.

Must be a New York thing - Knicks - Jets - Revolution

Haha  ;D

I'll actually care about winning when there's actually something to win ;)

Going to wait till i retire?

So you are a chance?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on January 13, 2019, 10:29:46 AM
Alright! My attention is turning to the fixture.

With the disclaimer that we're in the second year of the 2018/2019 pairing (i.e. who'll host whoever you played 'Away' last year and vice versa, as well as having the same neutral opponent)... any fixture requests? In general, and/or specific to your team?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on January 13, 2019, 01:44:33 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on January 13, 2019, 10:29:46 AM
Alright! My attention is turning to the fixture.

With the disclaimer that we're in the second year of the 2018/2019 pairing (i.e. who'll host whoever you played 'Away' last year and vice versa, as well as having the same neutral opponent)... any fixture requests? In general, and/or specific to your team?

Seeing as we're in the second year of pairing, what actual requests could we possibly make Purps?

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on January 13, 2019, 05:12:25 PM
Timing of opponents, timing of home games etc...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: iZander on January 13, 2019, 05:14:20 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on January 13, 2019, 05:12:25 PM
Timing of opponents, timing of home games etc...
id like to avoid playing Seoul and play unofficial rival NY twice, cheers :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on January 13, 2019, 10:11:42 PM
Get rid of that rivalry thing to start the season. Worst time to play a rival is round 1
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on January 13, 2019, 11:19:40 PM
I'm sure it won't be easy, but it would be cool if the 2nd half of the season could be structured so that there are more instances than in the first half of the season where the top teams play each other while the bottom teams also play each other then

Would really build up the excitement leading into the finals, because every match will just have that bit extra riding on it and really shape the ladder

A rough example, in the first 10 rounds Dublin plays just 3 top teams, but then 5 in the last 7 rounds, and vice versa for lower ranked teams.

Won't be easy, but just throwing out idea's as requested :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on January 14, 2019, 11:07:54 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 13, 2019, 11:19:40 PM
I'm sure it won't be easy, but it would be cool if the 2nd half of the season could be structured so that there are more instances than in the first half of the season where the top teams play each other while the bottom teams also play each other then

Would really build up the excitement leading into the finals, because every match will just have that bit extra riding on it and really shape the ladder

A rough example, in the first 10 rounds Dublin plays just 3 top teams, but then 5 in the last 7 rounds, and vice versa for lower ranked teams.

Won't be easy, but just throwing out idea's as requested :)
Could work but would require some work by Admin.
Something like this would create interest.
Split the comp based on last years ladder into 3 groups:
Teams 1 - 6; 7 - 12 and 12 - 18.
Each group plays each other in the first 5 rounds and last 5 rounds with playing other groups from rounds 6 - 14.

Unsure how rivalry round though would work if both teams in same group. Maybe bring a round forward to accommodate.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on January 14, 2019, 12:22:01 PM
RD and banjo can have their fixture however they like, but I'll take a random one thanks
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on January 31, 2019, 11:37:20 AM
just for fun seeing what the list would look like of all the guys who have been on my list at some point. Clearly a high turnover team.

Divison 1:

Sam Docherty, Michael Hurley, Jeremy Howe, Alex Rance
Nat Fyfe, Dustin Martin, Lachie Neale, Matt Crouch
Todd Goldstein
Lance Franklin, Robbie Gray, Jack Gunston, Tom McDonald
Dayne Zorko, Joel Selwood

Divison 2:

Steven May, Jarrad McVeigh, Shannon Hurn, Majak Daw
Rory Sloane, Adam Treloar, Scott Pendlebury, Jaeger O'Meara
Shane Mumford
Toby Greene , Justin Westhoff, Michael Walters,Tom Hawkins
Brad Crouch, Jack Steven

Best of the Rest

MID:   Marc Murphy, Matt Kennedy, Tom Liberatore, Tom Rockliff, ,  Jack Redden
FWD:  Jack Riewoldt, Josh J Kennedy,  David Mundy, Travis Boak,    Jesse Hogan, Charlie Dixon

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on February 09, 2019, 02:20:57 PM
Kinda tempted to introduce this prize for the pre-season comp...

... The Gibbons Cup?



Each team names 5 players per pre-season week. The team with the highest score over the two weeks gets the ability to name Michael Gibbons for the year, but Gibbons will come off your list at seasons end. Runner-up can name Cottrell too.

Thoughts? Understand the objections... could be fun tho.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on February 09, 2019, 03:19:17 PM
Personally, I think it's too big a prize for a comp that's pretty unpredictable
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on February 09, 2019, 03:46:36 PM
Quote from: Nige on February 09, 2019, 03:19:17 PM
Personally, I think it's too big a prize for a comp that's pretty unpredictable

Agree

Can't really think of a fair way to do it either. Might just have to keep them off lists, and then they go into next years draft? Don't even love that tbh, but not sure how to do this fairly
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on February 09, 2019, 04:06:09 PM
couple of suggestions (really only helpful for next seasons onwards as not in place now)

but
A) if a player retires after list lodgement (i.e how meow lost bugg or holz if he hadn't of traded him etc)

B) with this rule in place now in the AFL we could make it possible to leave 1 list spot open for such an event? (of course this means passing with last spot in all 3 drafts so risk V reward plus if no one picked up then too bad)

C) could be the new priority pick (but if no one gets picked up like this in future seasons would hurt more for the team that should of got a priority pick)

D) could put them in a bid style auction like we used to have for former players etc bid now lose the pick at End of season (i.e you bid your 2nd you will have no 2nd pick at EOS regardless of where you finish and will need to delist an extra player now or EOS)

dunno some food for thought probably all terrible ideas and i have now just wasted 5 minutes of your lives that you will never get back

but hey it is off season gave you something to do right :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: iZander on February 09, 2019, 04:53:35 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on February 09, 2019, 04:06:09 PM
couple of suggestions (really only helpful for next seasons onwards as not in place now)

but
A) if a player retires after list lodgement (i.e how meow lost bugg or holz if he hadn't of traded him etc)

B) with this rule in place now in the AFL we could make it possible to leave 1 list spot open for such an event? (of course this means passing with last spot in all 3 drafts so risk V reward plus if no one picked up then too bad)

C) could be the new priority pick (but if no one gets picked up like this in future seasons would hurt more for the team that should of got a priority pick)

D) could put them in a bid style auction like we used to have for former players etc bid now lose the pick at End of season (i.e you bid your 2nd you will have no 2nd pick at EOS regardless of where you finish and will need to delist an extra player now or EOS)

dunno some food for thought probably all terrible ideas and i have now just wasted 5 minutes of your lives that you will never get back

but hey it is off season gave you something to do right :P
Ive been off the radar so i have no idea if who Gibbons is or if hes good but by the sounds of it its a decent prize? if so, i like option D for this year or even next year, highest bidder gets him, that makes sense? Id prefer it next year so you know what pick you are bidding exactly
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on February 10, 2019, 01:35:28 AM
He's mine you cheats.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on February 11, 2019, 12:26:27 PM
he has to go into next year draft. The team that wants him most gets him fair and square. If he is the best player then the team who gets the #1 pick can pay up for him (which wont happen).

dont think its even a discussion point to be honest, every other option will make 1 coach happy and every other coach unhappy.


Giving him to a team that has lost a player is clearly wrong as thats basically an advantage for losing a player. Most teams would happily drop plenty of guy on their list to get gibbons. So thats not an option.

Awarding him as a prize in a comp that is based off a bunch of practice sessions where stars rest and pretty much its a joke inst a solution.



Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on February 11, 2019, 12:28:18 PM
I'd probably just give him to whoever finished last in 2018
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: fanTCfool on February 11, 2019, 12:33:44 PM
We lost our last match by 1461 points. We need him.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on February 11, 2019, 12:37:34 PM
Quote from: GoLions on February 11, 2019, 12:28:18 PM
I'd probably just give him to whoever finished last in 2018

Well Purp did suggest a prize for winning a comp.

How about the winner of the comp get him?

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on February 12, 2019, 09:07:08 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on February 09, 2019, 02:20:57 PM
Kinda tempted to introduce this prize for the pre-season comp...

... The Gibbons Cup?



Each team names 5 players per pre-season week. The team with the highest score over the two weeks gets the ability to name Michael Gibbons for the year, but Gibbons will come off your list at seasons end. Runner-up can name Cottrell too.

Thoughts? Understand the objections... could be fun tho.

Yep love this maybe even make it just 3 players so it's harder to nail/relies on a bit more luck. Hopefully one of the lower teams can get it.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on February 12, 2019, 09:33:47 PM
I traded for PSD pick 1 so I could get Gibbons. He's mine you cheats.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Rids on February 17, 2019, 11:42:53 AM
Apologies for the spam. AXV is looking for a new coach. Thread topic link is below.

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,112758.0.html
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on March 14, 2019, 07:50:01 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on November 23, 2018, 08:10:49 PM
so purps
what will we do if a delisted player is picked up in the Pre-Season Supplemental Selection Period
which runs from
December 1 through until March 15 next year

does the former club just get them if they wish them

example, you have goddard, your going to delist him as no club
but if he gets picked up after our drafts etc say in January, you just get an extra player?

for what it is worth i reckon this is the way to go, as clarke and mumford already going to former teams etc and lists will be filled anyways

Quote from: Purple 77 on November 24, 2018, 10:22:51 AM
Good point!

Yeah I'd be happy with that. If they get picked up during that period only, and provided they were on your list last, then yeah they can get added to your list (if your salary cap allows it)

Consistent with the above, Mexico City can add Jonathon Marsh to its list (because they have cap room).

Yes, this will take their list total to 47 (if they choose to add him).

If this happened during the trade period, and they wanted to trade, they would have to reduce their list size to 46 in the first trade they do in order for it to be valid.

At the end of the day, he was on their list last, and he's playing AFL this year. Given this, it doesn't make sense for him to be unlisted to me.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on March 14, 2019, 10:18:16 PM
Yeah I'll take Marsh
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: c4v3m4n on March 17, 2019, 01:07:08 AM
BREAKING NEWS
Richard Applewood, Fiji Times

8 minutes ago

(https://synergyrealtyspokane.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/fd4bbd7f8e57003797eaf06eb7c0b076_person-with-question-mark-clipart-clipart-pie-cliparts-vectors-question-mark-person-clipart_1000-1000.jpeg)

The rumor mill is in overdrive tonight, with major news outlets reporting that the former Head Coach of the Pacific Islanders, c4v3m4n will be coming out of retirement and mounting a comeback.

c4v3m4n is of course remembered as one of the founding coaches of the World XV, and an influential member of the greater FanFooty community, once serving as forum administrator under the tutelage of the legendary m0nty. On the eve of his 10th anniversary with FanFooty, rumors have been circulating that this decision has been in the works for the past few weeks.

Sources close to c4v3m4n have said that he will be making a formal announcement in the coming days, but his timing has been met with some initial skepticism.

"The Pacific Islanders have tasted success without c4v3m4n. He abandoned the club when the members, the players and the fans needed a leader the most, and truthfully, I wouldn't welcome him back", said Greg Matthews, loyal supporter of the Pacific Islanders. Mr. Matthews also questioned c4v3m4n motives, stating "These actions reek of someone who is motivated by greed, no doubt."

In a statement made by the Fijian Regional Minister of Football Operations, Paul McAllister has expressed his concerns in an open statement on Twitter.

"If these rumors are true and c4v3m4n is returning to the community, we hope that he does so with caution. The community has evolved over the 5 years that he is been in retirement and I hope that c4v3m4n is patient in his return. The Ministry are supportive of c4v3m4n's actions and wishes him all the best in and out of retirement".

No word from World XV Commissioner, Purple 77 or current Head Coach of the Pacific Islanders, Jayman as yet, but both have been sought for comment.

c4v3m4n first burst onto the scene in 2009, but started capturing the attention of the football community with his antics and frivolity, including his now infamous m0nty Medal afterparties. It was in 2012 that he was scouted as the head coach for the newly created Pacific Islanders but after just one season, c4v3m4n announced his shock retirement to the bewilderment of the football world. A bewilderment that will be surely noticed across the globe tonight.

More to come
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on March 17, 2019, 07:38:33 AM
"Big, if true."
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on March 17, 2019, 09:20:27 AM
Welcome back c4!

Good luck getting a word out of Jay in 2019 though.  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on March 17, 2019, 11:03:12 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on March 17, 2019, 07:38:33 AM
"Big, if true."
Large, if not a facade
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: upthemaidens on March 17, 2019, 11:16:28 AM
The press will print anything these days.
 
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: c4v3m4n on March 18, 2019, 10:09:41 AM
EXCLUSIVE FOOTAGE
Brayden Johnson, Fiji Times

Posted 27 minutes ago

The Fiji Times has obtained exclusive footage of a coffee chat that occurred between former Head Coach of the Pacific Islanders, c4v3m4n and WXV League Commisioner, Purple 77.

Taken this morning, the pair met at a local cafe in Suva, Fiji, the famous Eden Bistro. This is the first time that c4v3m4n has actually been sighted outside of his island residence, sporting a beard and very casual attire.

(https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1200/1*B10QRF7r1wrbFOcZdoqLAw.png)

Chats between the two lasted 45 minutes, with various topics discussed including the state of World XV and c4v3m4n's return to the World XV, but not as a coach. This information goes against recent rumors and revelations, as it was believed the c4v3m4n would be wishing to be re-instated as head coach of the Pacific Islanders.

c4v3m4n's return has been met with some hostility by local fans of the Islanders, and even some WXV coaches. Coach of the Christchurch Saints, meow said on record, "Who the **** is this guy?". Other WXV coaches have been supportive, with Cairo Sands Nige reaching out to c4v3m4n on Twitter with a short message, "Welcome back c4".

The footage was taken by a patron, who wishes to remain anonymous.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on March 18, 2019, 12:54:34 PM
Haha, love it c4 :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: c4v3m4n on March 19, 2019, 12:45:48 PM
Quote from: Nige on March 17, 2019, 09:20:27 AM
Good luck getting a word out of Jay in 2019 though.  :P

(https://media.giphy.com/media/3o7TKxBr7xhEgJhaFy/giphy.gif)


Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on March 20, 2019, 08:49:40 PM
Also, if Seoul had the salary cap space available, they could have added Sam Rowe FWIW
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: c4v3m4n on March 22, 2019, 10:25:23 PM
Quote from: c4v3m4n on March 19, 2019, 12:45:48 PM
Quote from: Nige on March 17, 2019, 09:20:27 AM
Good luck getting a word out of Jay in 2019 though.  :P

(https://media.giphy.com/media/3o7TKxBr7xhEgJhaFy/giphy.gif)

I see what you mean...still waiting from a reply from Jay.

(https://media.tenor.com/images/42143b23a4be8a1f857a206774f251fc/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on March 22, 2019, 10:38:08 PM
Quote from: c4v3m4n on March 22, 2019, 10:25:23 PM
Quote from: c4v3m4n on March 19, 2019, 12:45:48 PM
Quote from: Nige on March 17, 2019, 09:20:27 AM
Good luck getting a word out of Jay in 2019 though.  :P

(https://media.giphy.com/media/3o7TKxBr7xhEgJhaFy/giphy.gif)

I see what you mean...still waiting from a reply from Jay.

(https://media.tenor.com/images/42143b23a4be8a1f857a206774f251fc/tenor.gif)
You can disappear for as long as you did the first time and he probably still wouldn't have replied.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: c4v3m4n on March 23, 2019, 12:16:57 AM
Quote from: Nige on March 22, 2019, 10:38:08 PM
You can disappear as long as you did the first time and he probably still wouldn't have replied.

I never truly disappeared.  ;)

(https://i.imgur.com/uh6CqV4.gif?noredirect)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on April 04, 2019, 09:12:55 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 31, 2018, 03:55:22 PM
Getting in with a monster trade already  ;D

New York trade: Gryan Miers
Cape Town trade: NAT Pick 74

GL to confirm

rekt.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 04, 2019, 09:29:14 PM
Quote from: GoLions on April 04, 2019, 09:12:55 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 31, 2018, 03:55:22 PM
Getting in with a monster trade already  ;D

New York trade: Gryan Miers
Cape Town trade: NAT Pick 74

GL to confirm

rekt.

Haha  ;D

Trade 26
New York trade: Reece Conca, Jordan Lewis, Robbie Tarrant + Pick 47
Cape Town trade: Pick 19 + Pick 20

I used 19 and 20 to move up to get Rankine and Duursma, so..

rekt :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on April 04, 2019, 09:53:45 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 04, 2019, 09:29:14 PM
Quote from: GoLions on April 04, 2019, 09:12:55 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 31, 2018, 03:55:22 PM
Getting in with a monster trade already  ;D

New York trade: Gryan Miers
Cape Town trade: NAT Pick 74

GL to confirm

rekt.

Haha  ;D

Trade 26
New York trade: Reece Conca, Jordan Lewis, Robbie Tarrant + Pick 47
Cape Town trade: Pick 19 + Pick 20

I used 19 and 20 to move up to get Rankine and Duursma, so..

rekt :P
Conca won me my match last week! And how is Rankine going?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 04, 2019, 10:38:52 PM
Quote from: GoLions on April 04, 2019, 09:53:45 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 04, 2019, 09:29:14 PM
Quote from: GoLions on April 04, 2019, 09:12:55 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 31, 2018, 03:55:22 PM
Getting in with a monster trade already  ;D

New York trade: Gryan Miers
Cape Town trade: NAT Pick 74

GL to confirm

rekt.

Haha  ;D

Trade 26
New York trade: Reece Conca, Jordan Lewis, Robbie Tarrant + Pick 47
Cape Town trade: Pick 19 + Pick 20

I used 19 and 20 to move up to get Rankine and Duursma, so..

rekt :P
Conca won me my match last week! And how is Rankine going?

Ask me in 2 years when Lewis and Tarrant aren't playing  ;)

Miers had the game of his life and scored 69 - enjoy :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on April 05, 2019, 07:15:38 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 04, 2019, 10:38:52 PM
Quote from: GoLions on April 04, 2019, 09:53:45 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 04, 2019, 09:29:14 PM
Quote from: GoLions on April 04, 2019, 09:12:55 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 31, 2018, 03:55:22 PM
Getting in with a monster trade already  ;D

New York trade: Gryan Miers
Cape Town trade: NAT Pick 74

GL to confirm

rekt.

Haha  ;D

Trade 26
New York trade: Reece Conca, Jordan Lewis, Robbie Tarrant + Pick 47
Cape Town trade: Pick 19 + Pick 20

I used 19 and 20 to move up to get Rankine and Duursma, so..

rekt :P
Conca won me my match last week! And how is Rankine going?

Ask me in 2 years when Lewis and Tarrant aren't playing  ;)

Miers had the game of his life and scored 69 - enjoy :P

He was even better last week
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on April 08, 2019, 07:58:55 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on April 07, 2019, 08:44:56 PM
WXV trade: 1st round draft pick
Christchurch trade: meow meow

Reasoning: compo.

Don't say I didn't warn you!

WXV Vacant Coaching Position (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,113003.msg1978841.html#msg1978841)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: upthemaidens on April 09, 2019, 08:31:45 AM
Well it was pretty obvious he was going to leave.  Dump your team in a hole and let someone else deal with it.
   Solid evidence that the Min. Cap needs to be brought back in.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on April 09, 2019, 08:58:03 AM
Quote from: upthemaidens on April 09, 2019, 08:31:45 AM
Well it was pretty obvious he was going to leave.  Dump your team in a hole and let someone else deal with it.
   Solid evidence that the Min. Cap needs to be brought back in.
It never left?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: upthemaidens on April 09, 2019, 11:27:57 AM
Quote from: GoLions on April 09, 2019, 08:58:03 AM
Quote from: upthemaidens on April 09, 2019, 08:31:45 AM
Well it was pretty obvious he was going to leave.  Dump your team in a hole and let someone else deal with it.
   Solid evidence that the Min. Cap needs to be brought back in.
It never left?
I mean the not being able to make trade if it brings you under min cap rule.   Punishment for not getting above min cap is counter productive.
 
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on April 09, 2019, 11:55:50 AM
Quote from: upthemaidens on April 09, 2019, 11:27:57 AM
Quote from: GoLions on April 09, 2019, 08:58:03 AM
Quote from: upthemaidens on April 09, 2019, 08:31:45 AM
Well it was pretty obvious he was going to leave.  Dump your team in a hole and let someone else deal with it.
   Solid evidence that the Min. Cap needs to be brought back in.
It never left?
I mean the not being able to make trade if it brings you under min cap rule.   Punishment for not getting above min cap is counter productive.


The only time Christchurch went under the minimum cap was after the very last trade. I doubt Stephen Hill would be making much of a difference.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: upthemaidens on April 09, 2019, 12:29:30 PM
Quote from: meow meow on April 09, 2019, 11:55:50 AM
Quote from: upthemaidens on April 09, 2019, 11:27:57 AM
Quote from: GoLions on April 09, 2019, 08:58:03 AM
Quote from: upthemaidens on April 09, 2019, 08:31:45 AM
Well it was pretty obvious he was going to leave.  Dump your team in a hole and let someone else deal with it.
   Solid evidence that the Min. Cap needs to be brought back in.
It never left?
I mean the not being able to make trade if it brings you under min cap rule.   Punishment for not getting above min cap is counter productive.


The only time Christchurch went under the minimum cap was after the very last trade. I doubt Stephen Hill would be making much of a difference.
Losing the following years pick does make a difference.
   You clearly were not making decisions in the best interest of your club by not staying over min.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 09, 2019, 12:59:47 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on April 09, 2019, 12:29:30 PM
Quote from: meow meow on April 09, 2019, 11:55:50 AM
Quote from: upthemaidens on April 09, 2019, 11:27:57 AM
Quote from: GoLions on April 09, 2019, 08:58:03 AM
Quote from: upthemaidens on April 09, 2019, 08:31:45 AM
Well it was pretty obvious he was going to leave.  Dump your team in a hole and let someone else deal with it.
   Solid evidence that the Min. Cap needs to be brought back in.
It never left?
I mean the not being able to make trade if it brings you under min cap rule.   Punishment for not getting above min cap is counter productive.


The only time Christchurch went under the minimum cap was after the very last trade. I doubt Stephen Hill would be making much of a difference.
Losing the following years pick does make a difference.
   You clearly were not making decisions in the best interest of your club by not staying over min.
I was one that wanted the change as it cost decent trades in 2017 - Wanted to trade 2 lower priced players for a prem but trade rejected because it took me below minimum cap not by much but still below.  Same this year but was easily fixed by start of season.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 10, 2019, 02:43:29 PM
I know this is going to be controversial and could even ruffle a few feathers, but with the recent departure of meow I can't help but feel that this might be the right time to evaluate WXV and possibly use this opportunity to make a change

Fact of the matter is, the Church list is absolutely stuffed - barely scraping over 100 points per week

You can throw picks at them, but this team will be lucky to win a couple of matches over the next couple of years, which leads me to my point - I think 18 teams might be too much, as we use every single player in the AFL - many which are useless too so I think WXV might be more competitive and certainly more healthy if we moved to 16 teams

This obviously means another team would need to be scrapped, and it's an awkward conversation to have because nobody wants to ask/tell someone to step away, but I think the comp would be much better with 16 sides

The 90ish players both Church and the second club would be redrafted by the remaining 16 clubs in a random lottery style draft using the snake draft approach

Of the 90ish players, there is probably only going to be 10-15 starting quality players, so each team will likely end up picking up an extra starter, and the rest is just spread around

This would also require the min/max caps to be increased to accommodate the extra players

Now I know the easy thing to say is that we're already in the middle of a season, so it's too hard, just push it to the side and forget about it, and I won't be surprised if that's the actual outcome, but sometimes you need to make big decisions when the pressure is on, and I think for the longevity and future of this comp it would be the best thing to do

We only have a couple of FF members waiting in the wings to coach too - so once they get a team there's every chance the quality applications dry up, so I see that as another benefit as this will ensure we have a few good coaches in the wings long term as well which is important to keep the comp going long term

Now I understand it's not ideal for me to be raising this and expecting someone else to step aside for the betterment of the comp for this to happen, so by default I need to put my hand up as being someone who might be willing to do this, although I would hope it's something that perhaps the majority would vote on

Discuss

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on April 10, 2019, 03:03:27 PM
certainly some that makes sense and would fix a few issues.

admin wise its going to push Purp
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: fanTCfool on April 10, 2019, 03:20:02 PM
IMO dropping to 16 teams is punishing someone else for the questionable decisions made by the departing coach.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 10, 2019, 03:23:00 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on April 10, 2019, 03:20:02 PM
IMO dropping to 16 teams is punishing someone else for the questionable decisions made by the departing coach.

Fair comment, and there is no arguing what was done to Church, but I think it has highlighted some of the points I made above

Do we want an 18 team comp that is always going to have a few sides that struggle endlessly, or do we want 16 teams which would bridge the gap and make all teams more competitive?

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on April 10, 2019, 03:32:40 PM
Worlds has always had 18 comps and this is an overreaction I feel, plus I also agree with what Ryno said.

In the AFL, and even Worlds since it's inception, there's always been team that have struggled, not every team can be competitive in this comp, that's just the nature of it. Sure, this is an extreme, but just because it is doesn't mean we suddenly uproot the essence of what Worlds is.

This also feels disrespectful to the prospective coaches, obviously it's the opinion of most that the list isn't in great shape, but depriving them of the opportunity to turn the list around seems unfair and unwarranted, it's been done to some extent before, there's no reason why it can't be done again.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 10, 2019, 03:35:50 PM
Quote from: Nige on April 10, 2019, 03:32:40 PM
Worlds has always had 18 comps and this is an overreaction I feel, plus I also agree with what Ryno said.

In the AFL, and even Worlds since it's inception, there's always been team that have struggled, not every team can be competitive in this comp, that's just the nature of it. Sure, this is an extreme, but just because it is doesn't mean we suddenly uproot the essence of what Worlds is.

This also feels disrespectful to the prospective coaches, obviously it's the opinion of most that the list isn't in great shape, but depriving them of the opportunity to turn the list around seems unfair and unwarranted, it's been done to some extent before, there's no reason why it can't be done again.

3 days ago there was no prospective coaches to worry about, so I think the health of the comp trumps them, which is why I decided to float this suggestion

I don't think it's an overreaction either, but I didn't expect anyone to really get on board with it anyway, because I know how things generally roll here
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: fanTCfool on April 10, 2019, 03:39:32 PM
Dropping to 16 teams makes everyone more competitive in theory, but I think you'll always have struggling teams no matter the attempt to regulate competitiveness. Some teams will trade well in hindsight while others set themselves back, let alone the possibility of getting hammered by injury regardless of how good your list looks on paper.

As Nige says, I tend to agree with the notion that struggling teams are simply a part of AFL and keeper leagues alike.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on April 10, 2019, 03:42:43 PM
lets instead talk about bringing in a mid season trade period that would be good

right guys?

regarding the Saints if they keep performing like they are now its a simple fix, give them priority pick 2. Meow stuffed this team up with drafting badly to pick 2 would make up for it. The trading was reckless but it was the drafting that killed it.

Add in Walsh, Rozee, Butters over what he picked and this team is fine.

Pick 1,2,19 is more then enough to rebuild a squad with a competent and aggressive coach we saw what Dave was able to do with Karen
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on April 10, 2019, 03:50:05 PM
Could also as concession give church any new players picked up via the rookie rule that isn’t on a list?

Ie gibbons and Lockhart plus couple teams have a spot
If none a former player etc

Good discussion though
And understand why RD is raising the idea

Think I like the way the Como is and rather help church then fold and redraft another 2 teams
Seems to be done every off season
(I know those were 3 redrafted by 3 not merged into other 16 but point of redrafting a lot I mean)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on April 10, 2019, 03:52:35 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on April 10, 2019, 03:50:05 PM
Could also as concession give church any new players picked up via the rookie rule that isn’t on a list?

Ie gibbons and Lockhart plus couple teams have a spot
If none a former player etc

Good discussion though
And understand why RD is raising the idea

Think I like the way the Como is and rather help church then fold and redraft another 2 teams
Seems to be done every off season
(I know those were 3 redrafted by 3 not merged into other 16 but point of redrafting a lot I mean)

id 100% give Church Gibbons and Lockhart right now
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 10, 2019, 03:54:47 PM
Good idea Daz

Gibbons, Lockart and Stack should go onto the Church list right now

God knows they have the cap space :P

Priority pick so 1, 2 and 19 should do the job as well
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on April 10, 2019, 04:01:17 PM
It's always worth mentioning that there are several coaches who suddenly decide that they "can't compete" or are gonna "rebuild". At the end of the day, while it's obvious and realistic that not every team can and/or will be competitive every season, this is still a conscious choice that means the comp never will be even anyway.

If every team is hypothetically getting one 'best XV player' then how does that really help a team that's already struggling? It's not like there's gonna be a drastic difference between the best and 16th best player, and depending on how people draft (and people make some real odd decisions), players 'slip' or 'go too early' as a result. If anything, it's probably helping the rich get richer and doing nothing to equalise.

Quote from: Holz on April 10, 2019, 03:42:43 PM
lets instead talk about bringing in a mid season trade period that would be good

right guys?
You're not fooling anyone in this being purely fuelled by self-interest haha.

Quote from: Holz on April 10, 2019, 03:42:43 PM
we saw what Dave was able to do with Karen
Excuse me?  :P

Also, I don't think giving the 'leftover' SSP players to Christchurch now is really much of a solution. None are exactly guaranteed permanent fixtures in their side or fantastic scorers (don't give me Stack's one game sample as evidence). It's a temporary solution to a larger issue and unfairly (even in these circumstances) gives them first access to players that should be available to everyone.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on April 10, 2019, 04:08:37 PM
Quote from: Nige on April 10, 2019, 04:01:17 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 10, 2019, 03:42:43 PM
lets instead talk about bringing in a mid season trade period that would be good

right guys?
You're not fooling anyone in this being purely fuelled by self-interest haha.

lets be fair i have called for this for years and im introducing it in the Euro too.

plus also by mid season i should actually be in ok shape.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: fanTCfool on April 10, 2019, 04:09:39 PM
Surely a mid-season trading period has to be voted in pre-season  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on April 10, 2019, 04:27:04 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on April 10, 2019, 04:09:39 PM
Surely a mid-season trading period has to be voted in pre-season  :P

comp is full of kill joys

if you dont want to trade mid season dont trade mid season. if you want to trade mid season then trade mid season.

it will never get up even though your not forced to trade so no reason to reject it.



Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: PowerBug on April 10, 2019, 04:40:09 PM
I guess I'm down for disbanding Church and NY, good idea RD!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: fanTCfool on April 10, 2019, 04:48:16 PM
Can't just make-up and adjust rules during the course of the season, this isn't the AFL  ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 10, 2019, 05:13:59 PM
Do not like the idea of a team folding mid season. As has been said earlier even with 16 teams there will always be weaker teams.

What would be the basis for redrafting all the players would list sizes have to increase to accommodate? Bearing in mind that Worlds exhaust all players in the Draft.

Couple of suggestions for improvement:
Limit all teams to 44 players - If player suffers a LTI more than 8 weeks  eg Dunn or retires after start of Season eg Picken Then coaches have the option of replacing from the list of left overs.
During the bye periods have a mid season trade period capped at say 3/4 movements. Know this has been defeated but may be worth consideration again.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on April 10, 2019, 05:20:30 PM
Feel like I've seen this before...
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 10, 2019, 02:43:29 PM
Fact of the matter is, the Church list is absolutely stuffed - barely scraping over 100 points per week

You can throw picks at them, but this team will be lucky to win a couple of matches over the next couple of years


Start of the 2015/16 trade period
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 03, 2015, 02:14:35 PM
Just looking at that list Rico. Sheeesh, it's going to take years before NDT can be competitive.

I think that needs to be changed. WXV is for fun - it's not real life or anything and being coaches of a team that is poor and barely ever wins shouldn't really exist IMO.

It's going to take years of priority picks to fix that side, and that cant be much fun for Rico and the other coaches who barely ever win a game simply because their lists are so shot


In case anyone forgot...

We made the GF that season
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 10, 2019, 05:33:28 PM
No doubt you guys did an amazing job Rico, but I don't think trades like this are going to pass or come up much for the new Church coach

Trade 10
New Delhi Trade: Tom Nicholls, Daniel Gorringe, Keegan Brooksby + Pick 22
Buenos Aires Trade: Mitch Wallis, Matt Crouch + Pick 59

Trade 61
Seoul trade: Jake Lloyd
New Delhi: David Myers

Trade 67
New Delhi trade: Koby Stevens + Jack Trengove
Christchurch trade: Tom $cully + Pick 12

The rebuild process is vastly fastracked when you get trades like this :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on April 10, 2019, 05:47:51 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 10, 2019, 05:33:28 PM
No doubt you guys did an amazing job Rico, but I don't think trades like this are going to pass or come up much for the new Church coach

Trade 10
New Delhi Trade: Tom Nicholls, Daniel Gorringe, Keegan Brooksby + Pick 22
Buenos Aires Trade: Mitch Wallis, Matt Crouch + Pick 59

Trade 61
Seoul trade: Jake Lloyd
New Delhi: David Myers

Trade 67
New Delhi trade: Koby Stevens + Jack Trengove
Christchurch trade: Tom $cully + Pick 12

The rebuild process is vastly fastracked when you get trades like this :P
That's hindsight for you...

Back then, Lloyd was a 69ave fwd and Myers had gone 85ave the year before

That was the whole GC ruck line and Nicholls had averaged 91 in his 2nd year, 79 in his 3rd year and just come off 81ave that year.
Matt Crouch was averaging 68

Koby Stevens was an 86ave fwd and Scully had one year over 79 which was 83.



Guaranteed there will be similar trades this year (and every year) that we'll look back in 3-4 years time and think they were just as uneven.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on April 10, 2019, 05:52:15 PM
lol that reminds me of how NDT got Lloyd

Trade 22
New Delhi trade: Robbie Warnock
PNL trade: David Myers + Luke Delaney

Trade 61
Seoul trade: Jake Lloyd
New Delhi: David Myers


Robbie flowering Warnock
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on April 10, 2019, 05:58:16 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on April 10, 2019, 05:52:15 PM
lol that reminds me of how NDT got Lloyd

Trade 22
New Delhi trade: Robbie Warnock
PNL trade: David Myers + Luke Delaney

Trade 61
Seoul trade: Jake Lloyd
New Delhi: David Myers


Robbie flowering Warnock
Was delisted too after thy
Still filthy at that one
Haha
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on April 10, 2019, 06:23:02 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on April 10, 2019, 05:20:30 PM
Feel like I've seen this before...
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 10, 2019, 02:43:29 PM
Fact of the matter is, the Church list is absolutely stuffed - barely scraping over 100 points per week

You can throw picks at them, but this team will be lucky to win a couple of matches over the next couple of years


Start of the 2015/16 trade period
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 03, 2015, 02:14:35 PM
Just looking at that list Rico. Sheeesh, it's going to take years before NDT can be competitive.

I think that needs to be changed. WXV is for fun - it's not real life or anything and being coaches of a team that is poor and barely ever wins shouldn't really exist IMO.

It's going to take years of priority picks to fix that side, and that cant be much fun for Rico and the other coaches who barely ever win a game simply because their lists are so shot


In case anyone forgot...

We made the GF that season

Clearly a fluke

Done nothing since
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on April 10, 2019, 06:53:47 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on April 10, 2019, 05:52:15 PM
lol that reminds me of how NDT got Lloyd

Trade 22
New Delhi trade: Robbie Warnock
PNL trade: David Myers + Luke Delaney

Trade 61
Seoul trade: Jake Lloyd
New Delhi: David Myers


Robbie flowering Warnock

Dont remind me lol
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on April 10, 2019, 07:40:49 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 10, 2019, 03:42:43 PM
Pick 1,2,19 is more then enough to rebuild a squad with a competent and aggressive coach we saw what Dave was able to do with Karen
"Karen"

(http://www.adrants.com/images/kate_upton_gillette.png)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on April 10, 2019, 09:02:24 PM
Personally I feel there is an overreaction to Christchurch's plight. If no one was keen to take on the Christchurch challenge, then I think you have a point. But as long as people are signing up for the challenge... then well, that's validation for 18 teams.

Other comps are struggling for numbers. We have a waiting list.

I say lets maximise the opportunities, and be patient with the cellar dwellers.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on April 10, 2019, 09:02:58 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on April 10, 2019, 04:48:16 PM
Can't just make-up and adjust rules during the course of the season, this isn't the AFL  ;)

Also, this ^^

Have no intentions to have another asterisk season.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on April 10, 2019, 09:48:05 PM
Agreed I think we should keep it at 18

If another coach drops out by the end of the season could just do a redraft between those teams maybe?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on April 11, 2019, 11:47:54 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on April 10, 2019, 09:02:58 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on April 10, 2019, 04:48:16 PM
Can't just make-up and adjust rules during the course of the season, this isn't the AFL  ;)

Also, this ^^

Have no intentions to have another asterisk season.
Dublin*
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on April 11, 2019, 11:50:43 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on April 10, 2019, 05:47:51 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 10, 2019, 05:33:28 PM
No doubt you guys did an amazing job Rico, but I don't think trades like this are going to pass or come up much for the new Church coach

Trade 10
New Delhi Trade: Tom Nicholls, Daniel Gorringe, Keegan Brooksby + Pick 22
Buenos Aires Trade: Mitch Wallis, Matt Crouch + Pick 59

Trade 61
Seoul trade: Jake Lloyd
New Delhi: David Myers

Trade 67
New Delhi trade: Koby Stevens + Jack Trengove
Christchurch trade: Tom $cully + Pick 12

The rebuild process is vastly fastracked when you get trades like this :P
That's hindsight for you...

Back then, Lloyd was a 69ave fwd and Myers had gone 85ave the year before

That was the whole GC ruck line and Nicholls had averaged 91 in his 2nd year, 79 in his 3rd year and just come off 81ave that year.
Matt Crouch was averaging 68

Koby Stevens was an 86ave fwd and Scully had one year over 79 which was 83.



Guaranteed there will be similar trades this year (and every year) that we'll look back in 3-4 years time and think they were just as uneven.


Clearly wasn't Crouch that made that trade uneven ;D

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 02, 2017, 08:02:45 PM
Calling it now

Will never go 105+, hence irrelevant for SC
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on April 11, 2019, 12:06:37 PM
Quote from: GoLions on April 10, 2019, 07:40:49 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 10, 2019, 03:42:43 PM
Pick 1,2,19 is more then enough to rebuild a squad with a competent and aggressive coach we saw what Dave was able to do with Karen
"Karen"

(http://www.adrants.com/images/kate_upton_gillette.png)

Karen Kate same thing.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on April 11, 2019, 05:13:00 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 11, 2019, 12:06:37 PM
Quote from: GoLions on April 10, 2019, 07:40:49 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 10, 2019, 03:42:43 PM
Pick 1,2,19 is more then enough to rebuild a squad with a competent and aggressive coach we saw what Dave was able to do with Karen
"Karen"

(http://www.adrants.com/images/kate_upton_gillette.png)

Karen Kate same thing.
Actually, the difference is Karen beat Dublin.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on April 11, 2019, 05:37:20 PM
Quote from: Nige on April 11, 2019, 05:13:00 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 11, 2019, 12:06:37 PM
Quote from: GoLions on April 10, 2019, 07:40:49 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 10, 2019, 03:42:43 PM
Pick 1,2,19 is more then enough to rebuild a squad with a competent and aggressive coach we saw what Dave was able to do with Karen
"Karen"

(http://www.adrants.com/images/kate_upton_gillette.png)

Karen Kate same thing.
Actually, the difference is Karen beat Dublin.
And Kate is top 4
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on April 11, 2019, 05:37:35 PM
Quote from: Nige on April 11, 2019, 05:13:00 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 11, 2019, 12:06:37 PM
Quote from: GoLions on April 10, 2019, 07:40:49 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 10, 2019, 03:42:43 PM
Pick 1,2,19 is more then enough to rebuild a squad with a competent and aggressive coach we saw what Dave was able to do with Karen
"Karen"

(http://www.adrants.com/images/kate_upton_gillette.png)

Karen Kate same thing.
Actually, the difference is Karen beat Dublin.

Correction Karen beat Belfast
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on April 11, 2019, 05:43:18 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 11, 2019, 05:37:35 PM
Quote from: Nige on April 11, 2019, 05:13:00 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 11, 2019, 12:06:37 PM
Quote from: GoLions on April 10, 2019, 07:40:49 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 10, 2019, 03:42:43 PM
Pick 1,2,19 is more then enough to rebuild a squad with a competent and aggressive coach we saw what Dave was able to do with Karen
"Karen"

(http://www.adrants.com/images/kate_upton_gillette.png)

Karen Kate same thing.
Actually, the difference is Karen beat Dublin.

Correction Karen beat Belfast
If you say so, just don't refer to Howe, McVeigh, Martin, Sloane, Crouch x2, Selwood, Goldstein, TMcDonald, Gunston or Kennedy as best XV or Dublin players again in that case.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on April 12, 2019, 12:53:26 PM
If i had to guess i would think the majority of regular FF users would be voting for a FF coach, but its the non FF coaches that we really dont know which way will go. Should be interesting!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 12, 2019, 12:55:19 PM
Quote from: GoLions on April 12, 2019, 12:53:26 PM
If i had to guess i would think the majority of regular FF users would be voting for a FF coach, but its the non FF coaches that we really dont know which way will go. Should be interesting!

(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/en.futurama/images/d/da/Fry_Looking_Squint.jpg/revision/latest/zoom-crop/width/240/height/240?cb=20110701192358)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on April 12, 2019, 08:28:54 PM
Please welcome the coach of Christchurch! (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,113003.msg1980045.html#msg1980045)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on May 03, 2019, 09:10:00 AM
so purps with the mid season draft in the AFL

if a former WXV player is picked up and gets a contract beyond this year (or signs anew one near end of season)

will we still follow at our EOS former rule sin grabbing former players?


so not saying anyone gets them now but if they stay on at a club etc
just thought before it is ran and any players do good/bad might be easier to hash it out so everyone knows

(so london had gregson who i always thought wasn't too bad, so if he gets picked up at eos if he is signed longer then this year can london grab him per normal rules?)

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on May 03, 2019, 09:05:41 PM
Good question!

Former WXV players picked up in the mid-season WON'T walk back onto your list DURING the season, but yes as you point out Daz, if they get a contract beyond this season on an AFL list, they can then walk back onto your list EOS.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: PowerBug on May 12, 2019, 02:14:13 PM
I think Flood and Attack should be allowed to be used in finals. Obviously not this season as it's underway, but maybe one for a poll for 2020?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on May 13, 2019, 06:49:57 PM
See you all in 2020
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on May 13, 2019, 07:32:15 PM
Quote from: GoLions on May 13, 2019, 06:49:57 PM
See you all in 2020
Told you to take Soldo  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: fanTCfool on May 13, 2019, 08:04:21 PM
Quote from: Jroo on May 13, 2019, 07:32:15 PM
Quote from: GoLions on May 13, 2019, 06:49:57 PM
See you all in 2020
Loosely discussed Soldo  :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on May 13, 2019, 08:19:34 PM
Quote from: Jroo on May 13, 2019, 07:32:15 PM
Quote from: GoLions on May 13, 2019, 06:49:57 PM
See you all in 2020
Told you to take Soldo  :P
Rather the oop
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Koop on May 13, 2019, 08:53:02 PM
Church were one monster Danger quarter away from having the same amount of wins at the end of Round 8 that Cape Town managed for the entire 2018 season. ;)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on May 14, 2019, 10:21:32 PM
tfw you lose your #1 and #2 rucks within the space of 24 hours
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 20, 2019, 04:21:48 PM
all of you have smelly butts
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 16, 2019, 10:23:44 AM
Just 2 more players needed for me to have a full XV of injured best 22 players

D: Pearce Hanley, Tom Barrass, Lachie Henderson, Taylor Duryea
M: Jack Steele, Tom Liberatore, Kieran Jack, Ed Phillips
R: X
F: Izak Rankine, Jack Watts, Daniel Wells, X
I: Shane Kersten, Ben Paton

Anyone else beat that?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on June 16, 2019, 10:40:38 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 16, 2019, 10:23:44 AM
Just 2 more players needed for me to have a full XV of injured best 22 players

D: Pearce Hanley, Tom Barrass, Lachie Henderson, Taylor Duryea
M: Jack Steele, Tom Liberatore, Kieran Jack, Ed Phillips
R: X
F: Izak Rankine, Jack Watts, Daniel Wells, X
I: Shane Kersten, Ben Paton

Anyone else beat that?

Pretty loose use of best 22.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 16, 2019, 12:46:58 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 16, 2019, 10:40:38 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 16, 2019, 10:23:44 AM
Just 2 more players needed for me to have a full XV of injured best 22 players

D: Pearce Hanley, Tom Barrass, Lachie Henderson, Taylor Duryea
M: Jack Steele, Tom Liberatore, Kieran Jack, Ed Phillips
R: X
F: Izak Rankine, Jack Watts, Daniel Wells, X
I: Shane Kersten, Ben Paton

Anyone else beat that?

Pretty loose use of best 22.

Awwww, just because your side falls to pieces after losing just 3-4 players, don't be a hater

GL, how's yours look? You've been copping it too right?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on June 16, 2019, 01:41:27 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 16, 2019, 12:46:58 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 16, 2019, 10:40:38 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 16, 2019, 10:23:44 AM
Just 2 more players needed for me to have a full XV of injured best 22 players

D: Pearce Hanley, Tom Barrass, Lachie Henderson, Taylor Duryea
M: Jack Steele, Tom Liberatore, Kieran Jack, Ed Phillips
R: X
F: Izak Rankine, Jack Watts, Daniel Wells, X
I: Shane Kersten, Ben Paton

Anyone else beat that?

Pretty loose use of best 22.

Awwww, just because your side falls to pieces after losing just 3-4 players, don't be a hater

GL, how's yours look? You've been copping it too right?
D: Carlisle, Collins
M: Higgoat, Ebert, Bowes, Touk
R: Nank
F: Ainsworth, ANB (not sure if still concussed but also borderline 22), Venagoat
U: Grigg

Logue just returned this week. Garner just returned as well. Harris missed almost a month previously. Mayne and Burgoyne were out for a bit too. Been a good year.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on June 16, 2019, 07:37:46 PM
not missing as many but missing a good enough starting 4 forwards

wingard, wallis, patton, lonie


injure list was was actually larger 2 weeks ago as got crozier and shiel back
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on June 16, 2019, 09:36:38 PM
ZJones, JPK, Jack Steven, Cotchin and (stuff you all, this is true) Vandenberg all on the sidelines for me as the headline acts.

Hopefully they all come back when it counts...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 16, 2019, 09:39:03 PM
4-5 injuries? Cry me a river!  ;D

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on June 16, 2019, 09:44:39 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 16, 2019, 09:39:03 PM
4-5 injuries? Cry me a river!  ;D

I did say headline acts :P
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: PowerBug on June 16, 2019, 10:00:57 PM
I have Nick Smith injured so there's that, I guess.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: upthemaidens on June 16, 2019, 10:44:13 PM
Yeah we're missing some VFL players as well.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: iZander on June 17, 2019, 07:02:48 PM
I feel left out

Macmillan, Doedee, Webster, Scrimshaw
Wines, Berry, Bennell,
Cerra, Hayward,
Talia,
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on June 19, 2019, 02:35:53 PM
And now Stepho gone ahahaha
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 19, 2019, 03:23:51 PM
Quote from: GoLions on June 19, 2019, 02:35:53 PM
And now Stepho gone ahahaha
I bet you didn’t see that one coming.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on June 19, 2019, 04:24:14 PM
Quote from: Nige on June 19, 2019, 03:23:51 PM
Quote from: GoLions on June 19, 2019, 02:35:53 PM
And now Stepho gone ahahaha
I bet you didn’t see that one coming.
Now listen here you little shower
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 12, 2019, 11:44:57 PM
Bit of advertising - vacant ADT coaching position: http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,113329.0.html
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Koop on July 18, 2019, 06:20:27 PM
Pretty sure there's a rule discussion voting process to do, but Nige told me to post here anyway, sorry if it isn't the right place.

I'd like to float the idea of being able explore the possibility of adding a list management tweak that gives inclined coaches greater ability to react to what happens on draft night.

In other comps, this has taken the form of live trading throughout the national draft, as well as list management deadlines post said draft. I know this doesn't work here for a few reasons (delisted players being available in the NAT, salary caps, list management given we take every player, etc.) and honestly, I'm not really sure I'd want it implemented regardless. It's a hell of a lot of work from an admin perspective and I really like how unique worlds is compared to the pack.

HOWEVER, I wouldn't mind the ability to trade up and down the order up until the final WXV list lodgement deadline post the AFL rookie draft.

For example, if a player I was targeting at say, Pick 7, ends up sliding to Pick 30 in the real draft and I'm confident that I can risk him dropping. I could trade 7 to say, Cairo, who's target has gone earlier than expected and they'd like to come up the order, for Picks 15 & 21, as a very hypothetical example. This raises the potential headache of list sizes if trades are not 1 for 1, so I'm not sure how feasible it would be without being savvy to admin work, but I'd raise the uneducated argument that players who would potentially drop off lists into the delisted pool from this would've already been floated as 'trading for chips or delisting' targets anyway. I could be very wrong on that, but yeah. Also didn't teams without the required amount of picks just take extra picks at the end to top up their list anyway? Could potentially look at pick trades between the player and list lodgement deadlines being 1 for 1 to alleviate admin headaches too.

This would also be different from every single other comp, as well as bring us into a bit more of an AFL realism alignment, not that that is relevant at all though. :P

So yeah, TL;DR what I'd propose is as follows.

- Trade deadline for PLAYERS to stay at the weekend before the draft.
- Trade deadline for PICKS to be extended to match the list lodgement deadline date.
- The restrictions, etc. TBA
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on July 18, 2019, 07:40:37 PM
big tick of approval from Dublin
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Koop on July 18, 2019, 09:12:21 PM
Just clarifying because someone (1 guess ;)), misinterpreted the concept.

Using last years dates as an example

All PLAYERS would be tradeable up until the trade deadline (18th November)
The AFL NATIONAL DRAFT will be held (22nd-23rd November)
The AFL ROOKIE DRAFT will be held (23rd November
All PICKS would be tradeable up until the list lodgement deadline (27th November)
WXV Drafts would follow
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 18, 2019, 09:13:06 PM
Valid - keen to give it a go
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on July 18, 2019, 09:38:49 PM
So to clarify using the example if pick 7 is traded for picks 15 and 21.  Giving me say picks 15, 21, 39 and 46 and only have 3 vacancies on my list I can use Picks 15 and 21 Pass on 39 and 46 and use 1st pick in Rookie Draft.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on July 18, 2019, 09:52:06 PM
I assume there'd be no issue with trading say 3 picks for 1, because you just get given extra in the rookie if you need more, or pass on picks if you have too many.

I like it.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: upthemaidens on August 05, 2019, 05:10:34 PM
Allow the use of Flood/Attack during finals. 
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Koop on August 05, 2019, 05:20:13 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 05, 2019, 05:10:34 PM
Allow the use of Flood/Attack during finals. 

(https://i.imgur.com/t67YUxf.jpg)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 05, 2019, 05:21:01 PM
3. You must select 4 defenders, 4 midfielders, 4 forwards, 1 ruckman and 2 additional players from any position, along with 3 emergency players. However, you may choose to name an alternative team format ('Flood' or 'Attack' has described below) no more than a combined 5 times in a season. This cannot be done in finals.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: PowerBug on August 05, 2019, 05:21:09 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 05, 2019, 05:10:34 PM
Allow the use of Flood/Attack during finals. 
Gets a tick from me
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: fanTCfool on August 05, 2019, 05:26:46 PM
I get it, but I think that removes a lot of the value from acquiring depth. It's a no from me.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 05, 2019, 05:27:34 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on August 05, 2019, 05:26:46 PM
I get it, but I think that removes a lot of the value from acquiring depth. It's a no from me.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 05, 2019, 05:31:35 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on August 05, 2019, 05:26:46 PM
I get it, but I think that removes a lot of the value from acquiring depth. It's a no from me.

"acquiring depth" aka having rucks and midfielders playing in the forward line

shot was there had to take it.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: upthemaidens on August 05, 2019, 06:31:22 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on August 05, 2019, 05:26:46 PM
I get it, but I think that removes a lot of the value from acquiring depth. It's a no from me.
Having it during the season also removes value from depth.
   Being able to avoid an OOP in a knock out final and limiting luck at the pointy end of the season, surely is a good thing.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 05, 2019, 06:32:01 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 05, 2019, 06:31:22 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on August 05, 2019, 05:26:46 PM
I get it, but I think that removes a lot of the value from acquiring depth. It's a no from me.
Having it during the season also removes value from depth.
   Being able to avoid an OOP in a knock out final and limiting luck at the pointy end of the season, surely is a good thing.

get a fwd off me for next year

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: upthemaidens on August 05, 2019, 07:07:25 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 05, 2019, 06:32:01 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 05, 2019, 06:31:22 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on August 05, 2019, 05:26:46 PM
I get it, but I think that removes a lot of the value from acquiring depth. It's a no from me.
Having it during the season also removes value from depth.
   Being able to avoid an OOP in a knock out final and limiting luck at the pointy end of the season, surely is a good thing.

get a fwd off me for next year
I don't come up with rule suggestions to favour our club, but because it's good for the comp.   I know, crazy right?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 05, 2019, 07:22:57 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 05, 2019, 07:07:25 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 05, 2019, 06:32:01 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 05, 2019, 06:31:22 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on August 05, 2019, 05:26:46 PM
I get it, but I think that removes a lot of the value from acquiring depth. It's a no from me.
Having it during the season also removes value from depth.
   Being able to avoid an OOP in a knock out final and limiting luck at the pointy end of the season, surely is a good thing.

get a fwd off me for next year
I don't come up with rule suggestions to favour our club, but because it's good for the comp.   I know, crazy right?

Sounds familar.

Lets remove it all together.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: upthemaidens on August 05, 2019, 07:27:45 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 05, 2019, 07:22:57 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 05, 2019, 07:07:25 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 05, 2019, 06:32:01 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 05, 2019, 06:31:22 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on August 05, 2019, 05:26:46 PM
I get it, but I think that removes a lot of the value from acquiring depth. It's a no from me.
Having it during the season also removes value from depth.
   Being able to avoid an OOP in a knock out final and limiting luck at the pointy end of the season, surely is a good thing.

get a fwd off me for next year
I don't come up with rule suggestions to favour our club, but because it's good for the comp.   I know, crazy right?

Sounds familar.

Lets remove it all together.
Remove Flood/Attack during the season all together?  Don't you think it adds a little match day strategy?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on August 05, 2019, 07:57:12 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 05, 2019, 07:27:45 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 05, 2019, 07:22:57 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 05, 2019, 07:07:25 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 05, 2019, 06:32:01 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 05, 2019, 06:31:22 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on August 05, 2019, 05:26:46 PM
I get it, but I think that removes a lot of the value from acquiring depth. It's a no from me.
Having it during the season also removes value from depth.
   Being able to avoid an OOP in a knock out final and limiting luck at the pointy end of the season, surely is a good thing.

get a fwd off me for next year
I don't come up with rule suggestions to favour our club, but because it's good for the comp.   I know, crazy right?

Sounds familar.

Lets remove it all together.
Remove Flood/Attack during the season all together?  Don't you think it adds a little match day strategy?

It's not really strategy it's just a way to cover for poor depth
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: upthemaidens on August 05, 2019, 08:24:01 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 05, 2019, 07:57:12 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 05, 2019, 07:27:45 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 05, 2019, 07:22:57 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 05, 2019, 07:07:25 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 05, 2019, 06:32:01 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 05, 2019, 06:31:22 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on August 05, 2019, 05:26:46 PM
I get it, but I think that removes a lot of the value from acquiring depth. It's a no from me.
Having it during the season also removes value from depth.
   Being able to avoid an OOP in a knock out final and limiting luck at the pointy end of the season, surely is a good thing.

get a fwd off me for next year
I don't come up with rule suggestions to favour our club, but because it's good for the comp.   I know, crazy right?

Sounds familar.

Lets remove it all together.
Remove Flood/Attack during the season all together?  Don't you think it adds a little match day strategy?

It's not really strategy it's just a way to cover for poor depth
Is that a bad thing?   
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 06, 2019, 09:51:16 AM
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 05, 2019, 08:24:01 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 05, 2019, 07:57:12 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 05, 2019, 07:27:45 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 05, 2019, 07:22:57 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 05, 2019, 07:07:25 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 05, 2019, 06:32:01 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 05, 2019, 06:31:22 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on August 05, 2019, 05:26:46 PM
I get it, but I think that removes a lot of the value from acquiring depth. It's a no from me.
Having it during the season also removes value from depth.
   Being able to avoid an OOP in a knock out final and limiting luck at the pointy end of the season, surely is a good thing.

get a fwd off me for next year
I don't come up with rule suggestions to favour our club, but because it's good for the comp.   I know, crazy right?

Sounds familar.

Lets remove it all together.
Remove Flood/Attack during the season all together?  Don't you think it adds a little match day strategy?

It's not really strategy it's just a way to cover for poor depth
Is that a bad thing?

I think it is. Its the same as this oop ruck thing.

Get better depth, get better ruckline and its not an issue.

We all drafted and traded based on the rules of oop and for most of the time no flood or attack.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 06, 2019, 12:20:27 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 06, 2019, 09:51:16 AM
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 05, 2019, 08:24:01 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 05, 2019, 07:57:12 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 05, 2019, 07:27:45 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 05, 2019, 07:22:57 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 05, 2019, 07:07:25 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 05, 2019, 06:32:01 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 05, 2019, 06:31:22 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on August 05, 2019, 05:26:46 PM
I get it, but I think that removes a lot of the value from acquiring depth. It's a no from me.
Having it during the season also removes value from depth.
   Being able to avoid an OOP in a knock out final and limiting luck at the pointy end of the season, surely is a good thing.

get a fwd off me for next year
I don't come up with rule suggestions to favour our club, but because it's good for the comp.   I know, crazy right?

Sounds familar.

Lets remove it all together.
Remove Flood/Attack during the season all together?  Don't you think it adds a little match day strategy?

It's not really strategy it's just a way to cover for poor depth
Is that a bad thing?

I think it is. Its the same as this oop ruck thing.

Get better depth, get better ruckline and its not an issue.

We all drafted and traded based on the rules of oop and for most of the time no flood or attack.

Pretty stupid thing to say

It's very hard to get a better ruck line when there's not much playing rucks in the first place

If you can't field 4 defenders for example then yes your depth is trash and you should be punished because there's hundred of defenders playing every week

Sometimes you get hit hard with injury so flood attack helps out with that, but why not for rucks which are a much more limited specie?


Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 29, 2019, 11:28:17 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/CSQWiSt.jpg)

Senior Coach Holz: Given the rise of guns like Roids and MOC we have had to hire a full time coach for Belfast to look after all the depth of Dublin.

We are happy to announce the appointment of Meow as Head Coach of Belfast.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Jroo on September 30, 2019, 03:32:59 PM
Hey coaches, just letting you all know I'm stepping down us head coach of Mexico City.

I know it's probably not the best timing, but I've found it difficult to commit the time to stay on over the past year so think it would be best to get a new coach to take over immediately.

Sorry to those that I started talk trades with but I'm sure it won't be long before Purps gets someone new in the door to continue.

Just wanted to use the opportunity to say thanks to Purps for all he's done running Worlds and thanks to all the other coaches who have all been great, it's been a great journey and I have had a lot of fun over the years!

I hope to see Mexico City up there competing again shortly  8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on September 30, 2019, 03:39:02 PM
sad to see you go Jroo, you did a wonderfull job with Mexcio steering them to a flag and an even better job with the rebuild with probably the best draft in WXV history last year.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on September 30, 2019, 06:42:16 PM
You've been an absolute pleasure Jroo to have in WXVs!

Achieving the ultimate glory in 2015, you've been masterfully guiding the rebuild, ensuring whoever is the next Mexico City coach has a nice inheritance waiting for them.

Forever welcome in Worlds mate!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on September 30, 2019, 07:21:40 PM
sad to see you go JROO, but had a great run and a great bloke, cheers
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: fanTCfool on October 04, 2019, 08:49:45 PM
Sad to see you go mate, gave me my WXV start by taking me on board at the Suns and I'm very thankful for it. All the best for whatever lies ahead!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 04, 2019, 11:18:49 PM
btw i know some coaches question what ive done to new delhi or make fun of it

i said in my application i was going to do a rebuild and the reason being even if i were to win a flag next year i wouldnt get any satisfaction out of it or any credit for it and new dehli was similar to my other 3 teams on the older side so i wanted to do something different and build a young team or a not old team anyway
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 04, 2019, 11:27:01 PM
It's just banter kb, you also promised us that  8)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: upthemaidens on December 04, 2019, 01:18:35 AM
Tokyo forward line has just got a whole lot stronger with Whitfield getting F/M status.
    Seoul take a huge hit losing Dangerfield to the Mids only.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on December 04, 2019, 02:05:34 PM
Jack Steven, M/F.

flower, to the yes.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on December 10, 2019, 12:19:21 PM
With Trade Period 2 now open I have added every rookie/player to the Lists By Position thread, so that we can see every player available to help with trade talks

For now, I've put each player in the position that I think they will have, but if there's any changes once SC opens with official positions I will change them

For each coach, please look over your side to make sure I have every one of your players listed, and PM me any changes if required

Cheers
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: upthemaidens on December 10, 2019, 12:32:14 PM
This may not be 100% correct, but it's what's on DT Talk in regards to draftees positions.
  https://dreamteamtalk.com/2019/12/01/2019-afl-draftees-fantasy-positions-and-prices/
   
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on December 10, 2019, 01:05:59 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on December 10, 2019, 12:32:14 PM
This may not be 100% correct, but it's what's on DT Talk in regards to draftees positions.
  https://dreamteamtalk.com/2019/12/01/2019-afl-draftees-fantasy-positions-and-prices/


Thanks for this :)

I've made a few DPP changes based off that, but I'll wait for SC as I know some of them are different to what DT is doing (Based off some of the rookie positions already mentioned by Herald Sun)

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on January 29, 2020, 09:09:21 PM
Looking to see if there's interest in creating a WXV SC League this season?

We have 22 coaches in total, and 18 teams can enter a league, so even if there's a few of you that don't play SC we should hopefully still have enough to get 18 in and create a league

Should be fun

Who's interested?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on January 29, 2020, 10:18:28 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 29, 2020, 09:09:21 PM
Looking to see if there's interest in creating a WXV SC League this season?

We have 22 coaches in total, and 18 teams can enter a league, so even if there's a few of you that don't play SC we should hopefully still have enough to get 18 in and create a league

Should be fun

Who's interested?
Keen!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on February 01, 2020, 03:20:50 PM
15 coaches/teams already joined :)

Just 3 spots remaining - be quick!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on February 09, 2020, 11:29:21 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 01, 2020, 03:20:50 PM
15 coaches/teams already joined :)

Just 3 spots remaining - be quick!

Come on, just 3 more coaches needed to fill this league up!



Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: meow meow on February 10, 2020, 02:42:54 PM
I'll join.

Oh wait...
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Pkbaldy on February 24, 2020, 08:17:04 AM
Willing to sell Petracca for 3 first round picks and a 110 avg fwd.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on February 24, 2020, 03:49:21 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on February 24, 2020, 08:17:04 AM
Willing to sell Petracca for 3 first round picks and a 110 avg fwd.

negged
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on February 26, 2020, 01:51:48 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 09, 2020, 11:29:21 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 01, 2020, 03:20:50 PM
15 coaches/teams already joined :)

Just 3 spots remaining - be quick!

Come on, just 3 more coaches needed to fill this league up!

Just 2 spots left

Would love to have this filled before the season starts so we don't have some random put in

UTM, Toga, HP and Boomz hopefully 2 of you can join :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on March 06, 2020, 03:34:47 PM
Yeah I can join as coming back to SC this year.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 06, 2020, 05:05:34 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on March 06, 2020, 03:34:47 PM
Yeah I can join as coming back to SC this year.

Sorry, league is full now  :-X
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Hellopplz on March 07, 2020, 01:51:19 PM
Always next year :P.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on March 18, 2020, 09:16:32 PM
Sooo...

The AFL are phrasing this year as 153 games (17 x 9), rather than 17 rounds.

All this means is that some WXV Rounds (including simultaneous rounds) will potentially span over 2 weeks, or however long it takes for all 18 teams to play the next game.

This may mean we have several rounds playing at once.

Not ideal! But just bracing you all for what might be required.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: PowerBug on March 18, 2020, 09:21:06 PM
World Idol begins from Round 1 as well I assume?

Thoughts on still running a EurAsia vs AAP match on one of the weekends in the middle of the season anyway?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: fanTCfool on March 19, 2020, 12:05:13 AM
Quote from: PowerBug on March 18, 2020, 09:21:06 PM
World Idol begins from Round 1 as well I assume?

Thoughts on still running a EurAsia vs AAP match on one of the weekends in the middle of the season anyway?

Keen -- If we can run other things simultaneously, EurAsia vs AAP can squeeze in there somewhere... right?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on March 19, 2020, 08:21:44 AM
World Idol definitely happening! As is TOTW

And sure, why not. Let's make the EurAsia/AAP game simultaneous with WXV Round 11 (AFL Round 8 ). Shall make official in due course
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: upthemaidens on March 26, 2020, 10:35:53 AM
Now the wait begins.  Any thought on having some type of trade period?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on March 26, 2020, 10:38:29 AM
Quote from: upthemaidens on March 26, 2020, 10:35:53 AM
Now the wait begins.  Any thought on having some type of trade period?

Has come up a bit in Discord this idea.

I won't be allowing one given the season has already started, if teams changed now it would harm the integrity of the season (Corona aside).

But certainly happy to hear ideas to fill the time!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: upthemaidens on March 26, 2020, 10:52:35 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on March 26, 2020, 10:38:29 AM
Quote from: upthemaidens on March 26, 2020, 10:35:53 AM
Now the wait begins.  Any thought on having some type of trade period?

Has come up a bit in Discord this idea.

I won't be allowing one given the season has already started, if teams changed now it would harm the integrity of the season (Corona aside).

But certainly happy to hear ideas to fill the time!
Fair enough.    Maybe a mini comp that uses previous seasons scores in some way?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on March 26, 2020, 05:09:07 PM
Each week, go through the 2020 fixture and choose a MotR. Go into the history books and find the best matchup between those two sides, giving score updates throughout the weekend, using the actual scores when that game took place.

If anyone can be bothered anyway haha
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on March 27, 2020, 01:43:39 PM
ill make a simulation model and then run a season based on that. If Dublin somehow goes undefeated then thats just a coincidence.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: PowerBug on March 28, 2020, 12:08:24 PM
Quote from: Holz on March 27, 2020, 01:43:39 PM
ill make a simulation model and then run a season based on that. If Dublin somehow goes undefeated then thats just a coincidence.
I mean, I did start something from last year, could always spend some time on that again  ;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: upthemaidens on May 15, 2020, 04:06:23 PM
Thank flower footy will be back soon.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: PowerBug on July 27, 2020, 03:20:31 PM
Have you got an idea as to how this fixturing will be worked out? We’re waiting on Ess vs Melb to be played for Rd 4 but that match is going to fall into another round but not as a double up for them.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 27, 2020, 03:29:50 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on July 27, 2020, 03:20:31 PM
Have you got an idea as to how this fixturing will be worked out? We’re waiting on Ess vs Melb to be played for Rd 4 but that match is going to fall into another round but not as a double up for them.

I would have thought the simple solution is to just use the scores of that match for both the round it happens in, and Round 4?

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on July 27, 2020, 04:02:32 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 27, 2020, 03:29:50 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on July 27, 2020, 03:20:31 PM
Have you got an idea as to how this fixturing will be worked out? We’re waiting on Ess vs Melb to be played for Rd 4 but that match is going to fall into another round but not as a double up for them.

I would have thought the simple solution is to just use the scores of that match for both the round it happens in, and Round 4?
That would mean they have an afl game that doesn't count to a wxvs round
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 27, 2020, 04:51:17 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 27, 2020, 04:02:32 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 27, 2020, 03:29:50 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on July 27, 2020, 03:20:31 PM
Have you got an idea as to how this fixturing will be worked out? We’re waiting on Ess vs Melb to be played for Rd 4 but that match is going to fall into another round but not as a double up for them.

I would have thought the simple solution is to just use the scores of that match for both the round it happens in, and Round 4?
That would mean they have an afl game that doesn't count to a wxvs round

I'm assuming we play through all the upcoming bye rounds as is this season

We can't really do much else, with the limited rounds etc
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on July 27, 2020, 04:58:04 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 27, 2020, 04:51:17 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 27, 2020, 04:02:32 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 27, 2020, 03:29:50 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on July 27, 2020, 03:20:31 PM
Have you got an idea as to how this fixturing will be worked out? We’re waiting on Ess vs Melb to be played for Rd 4 but that match is going to fall into another round but not as a double up for them.

I would have thought the simple solution is to just use the scores of that match for both the round it happens in, and Round 4?
That would mean they have an afl game that doesn't count to a wxvs round

I'm assuming we play through all the upcoming bye rounds as is this season

We can't really do much else, with the limited rounds etc
Yeah i mean if we double up the scores for dons vs dees, and their following games they play eagles and freo respectively, the eagles and freo player scores would count for wxvs but we'd have already used dons and dees for 2 matches so they wouldnt be used at all.

Idk if this makes sense, its hard to explain haha
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on July 27, 2020, 05:35:10 PM
If it’s in the middle of another round then round 4 gets completed and that round gets pushed back till those games are caught up too I’d of thought
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Ringo on July 27, 2020, 06:11:06 PM
My understanding is it will be as normal as Dees and Bombers considered to have their bye in Rd 4.  So whenever they play would be a double round Pts for Rd 4 and Pts for Rd whatever.
Similar to suggestions that scores from next rd for bye players apply to their bye round.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on July 27, 2020, 06:13:36 PM
Just to be clear - every team will play 17 games. So, excluding our own double round weeks, no scores should have to count for more than 1 round.

Just gonna be a flowerin mess for a few weeks heh
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 27, 2020, 06:33:06 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on July 27, 2020, 05:35:10 PM
If it’s in the middle of another round then round 4 gets completed and that round gets pushed back till those games are caught up too I’d of thought

JB gets me
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on July 27, 2020, 06:38:43 PM
Interrupted rounds will be fluid - when Essendon v Melbourne play, that completes Round 4.

Those AFL teams that have their bye first up in the upcoming rounds, the corresponding WXV round will be completed via their next AFL match.

Rolling lockouts will probably be allowed, but I'll likely allow floating positions. Say for example, if you chose a Melbourne player in Round 4, and they don't play, I'll use your list preferences to replace them. Same applies going forward.

All will be made clear in the coming days, promise.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: PowerBug on July 27, 2020, 08:23:29 PM
All good, just wondering. Doesn't really bother my rubbish side but obviously others will need to know well in advance
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 27, 2020, 11:47:15 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on July 27, 2020, 08:23:29 PM
All good, just wondering. Doesn't really bother my rubbish side but obviously others will need to know well in advance
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: upthemaidens on August 02, 2020, 02:20:59 AM
By the way, you are doing a great job Purps in what is a very difficult season.   ..And year in general.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 02, 2020, 12:27:12 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 02, 2020, 02:20:59 AM
By the way, you are doing a great job Purps in what is a very difficult season.   ..And year in general.

Thanks UTM - much appreciated :)

Haven't thrown as much time into as previous years which I regret, but it just shows it's a credit to everyone that the season has travelled fairly smoothly despite the challenges.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 16, 2020, 04:02:21 PM
Guidelines on 'Loopholing' interpretation

This season has been quite complex. The introduction of rolling lockouts - in simultaneous rounds too - has not made it easier.

I also appreciate the 'grey' in the loopholing interpretation, and that two sentences of guidelines in the rulebook may be not be offering the required support.

QuoteThe Practice of Loopholing
19. Captain/Vice-Captain/Co-Captain or Emergency loopholing is forbidden. Only AFL selected players can be chosen in the starting XV and as Captain/Co-Captain. If this criteria has somehow been leveraged to benefit the coach that sough to exploit it, the admin may determine the entire team submission as they see fit.

I would like to take this moment to provide some further guidelines, as there is two contrasting examples in the active rounds submissions.



Guideline 1: Your team submissions are my primary reference point as the preferences of your players at a point in time, and they will be relied upon as the basis of interpreting the practice of loopholing.

In Rio's Round 16 submission, we can see that Jack Viney was named in the first team submission, prior to knowledge of his omission. In the same submission, Eric Hipwood was named at E1.

When PB was able to modify his team submission to cater for this - it was during the Brisbane game that Hipwood was playing. This meant that he was unable to legally put Hipwood into his starting XV, despite it being known prior to both the Brisbane and Melbourne games that he was the next most preferred player.

Decision: I allowed Viney to be named on-field so that Hipwood would come on as an emergency.

Did he have an opportunity to fix this prior to Brisbane game? Although he did know about it - he wasn't aware of the structure of his team at the time, due to being at an AFL match. Why do I allow this as an excuse? Because...

Guideline 2: If you're proactive about a potential issue and contact me for assistance, I'm likely to give you the benefit of the doubt. If you don't... then I tend to not.

I'm aware this is an exploitable advantage - you could just lie about it. PB could be lying too. But my approach is that if you feel the need to lie about that kind of stuff to get approval on an AFL Fantasy submission to get an advantage, then... I encourage some self-reflection.

What if Hipwood was garbage, and PB could modify his team to avoid his score?

A great question. Ultimately, consistent with the above, I'm trusting all of you to act with integrity. Failing that, because I'm assuming you are all acting with integrity, I'm not actively looking for this so if you see it, report it.

I also acknowledge that this could be the beginning of a bad culture in regards to trust. Which is why I'll be suggesting to re-allow the practice of emergency loopholing in rolling lockouts EOS, because I don't have time for that.



I'll contrast this with Toronto's submission. Before I go on, I'm not for a second saying FTC is dishonest. I think he is the victim of a lack of clear guidelines, and just a little bit of good ol temptation. I regret if this example puts you in a bad light - my intention here is just to educate.

In Round 15, with respect to defenders, Toronto's last submission before the first lockout was:

Connor Blakely, Alex Witherden, Kade Simpson, Tobe Watson, Lachlan Sholl (utility), Michael Hibberd (emergency)

Michael Hibberd plays in-between this submission and the next one - and scores a handy 78, which compared to averages of D3+ is a better score.

The next submission is

Connor Blakely, Alex Witherden, Lachlan Sholl, Tobe Watson, Michael Hibberd

Tobe Watson - despite would have only played last night if selected - was dropped for the WXV Round 14 equivalent game the night of that submission. As you can see, the preference of Sholl was moved ahead of Tobe, whilst Simpson (now 6th - out of team) was moved after Tobe,  despite Tobe's availability legitimately in doubt. These are red flags.

Decision: Toronto has illegally loopholed Hibberd's score by the act of selecting Tobe despite indications he would be unavailable, in combination with changing the preference of Simpson's selection below Tobe.

This will result in Kade Simpson coming in for Tobe Watson, consistent with the initial submission.



I hope this provides some guidance to this grey area.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: upthemaidens on August 16, 2020, 08:05:48 PM
Purps would you have done this year different knowing what you know now? 
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on August 16, 2020, 08:30:05 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 16, 2020, 08:05:48 PM
Purps would you have done this year different knowing what you know now?

A good question.

I still stand by simultaneous rounds... But I don't like how the lockouts operated. Our no loopholing rule isn't compatible with the required flexible nature that this season has brought upon us.

For ease, I would have rescheduled the last simultaneous round a week earlier (a non rolling lockout).

I also would take essendon and Melbourne next score for round 4.

Other than those points, I'm satisfied with how we've gone.

A good discussion point though... Would people have preferred a different kind of fixture in hindsight?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: PowerBug on August 19, 2020, 05:11:56 PM
We should allow loopholing in season 2021
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Holz on August 21, 2020, 10:07:16 AM
I love the bigger emergency bench. 4 should be a absolute min with 4 positions to cover. 5 would solve all looping except special rounds where we can go bigger.

On partial lockouts I think we should remove flood)attack being locked after the first game.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: upthemaidens on August 21, 2020, 11:35:22 PM
The more on bench the better, an AFL team would never play undermanned and neither should we because of late outs.
   
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 31, 2020, 03:01:18 PM
I've just added NAT and PSD picks for the teams who haven't made finals, to the List By Position thread :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on October 07, 2020, 11:49:00 PM
WXV coaches,

Letting you all know that the time has come for me to hand over my Thunder to a new coach. Thanks to everyone involved for making the WXV such a fun and enjoyable competition to be a part of over the past few years. I've really enjoyed rebranding my team from the Beijing Bears to the Beijing Thunder, and watching my Thunder develop from cellar-dweller to contending for the premiership over the past few seasons - alas we never quite got the job done. A couple of reserves premierships will have to be my legacy.

I'm calling quits because life has become busy and it doesn't seem possible for me to meet the constant demands for activity and for me to enjoy the competition at the same time.

Special thanks to Purps for being such a gem in running this awesome comp. I hope for the community's sake that you stick around as you truly are running something fantastic and no one could possibly match the dedication and effort you put in. You're a legend and can't speak highly enough of you. Also thanks to some coaches that were around in the early days that I enjoyed competing against - Holz, JBsHawks, Jayman, Ricochet to name a few. It was always good fun watching our teams battle and to talk trades.

I hope the new coach of the mighty Thunder can take the boys to the next level and grab that maiden flag. Hopefully my timing means that they will get a good run at the trade period and be able to stamp their own flavour on the team - I will watch on with keen interest.

Go 'Jing.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 07, 2020, 11:55:19 PM
It’s been an absolute pleasure Toges! You will definitely be missed, we’ve had plenty of tough battles over the years. A mighty shame you didn’t get the ultimate glory you built one hell of a team especially from where you started!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Torpedo10 on October 08, 2020, 12:07:27 AM
Gonna miss ya Toges. Been wonderful to chat to in all the big trades we've done and generally. Wishing you the best of luck in whatever the future holds!
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 08, 2020, 12:12:36 AM
Sad to see ya go Toges!  :( I remember the chats we had in the early days as Tiges fans, they were good times. Also been very impressive to see what you’ve built the Beijing team into over the years, kudos for doing such a great job! Enjoy life and don’t forget to swing by occasionally to check on the mighty ‘Jing.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 08, 2020, 12:13:22 AM
Toga, what you've done with the Jing list over the time that I've been in WXV has really shown how good a coach you truly are, and this competition definitely isn't going to be the same without you

I've enjoyed our interactions and trade talks over the years - you were always easy to deal with and understood how to value pieces fairly too

All the very best mate, you'll be missed
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: fanTCfool on October 08, 2020, 12:14:32 AM
All the best Toges, it's been great, from now all the way back to the Mongolian Lambs taking the AXV cake.
Hope to see you stay around WXV.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: DazBurg on October 08, 2020, 12:19:11 AM
All the best toga
Been great in all my dealings with you
Sad to see you go
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: GoLions on October 08, 2020, 10:11:22 AM
All the best Toges! Will definitely miss having you around here. Good luck with everything :)
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on October 08, 2020, 09:45:43 PM
Wanted to wait until I had time to properly sit down and give Toges the send off he deserves!

Toga's journey begun during the tumultuous season of 2013, having applied for the then Beijing Bears twice!

JROO8 actually was the first coach to take over the Bears from bomberboy0618, but it would turn out his time was too soon, leaving the Bears two months later.

It was then where Toges partnered up with Master Q to become WXVs second official co-coaches, renaming the Bears to the Thunder.

But, having joined in May, there was only so much he and Q could do with the list, finishing 17th that year.

Beijing featured in only 3 trades of the 59 that off-season, opting to play the long game and back in its list and draft picks. Unsurprisingly, Beijing would finish 17th again in 2014, but it was all part of the plan.

Receiving Pick 1 as a priority pick that year, Beijing made its first major step back to respectability: drafting Christian Petracca. Upping their trade game to 12 out of 153 (jesus), the Thunder shuffled their deck once again, attempting to build a stronger foundation for their eventual push. The progress was slow but steady, finishing 14th in 2015. But an important 2015 trade period (and the shedding of one Master Q) saw Toga masterfully trade in Zorko, Jenkins and Ward for really not all that much as hindsight would later tell you!

2016 was meant to be the year of the 'Jing! Having comfortably scored within the top 8 that year, but alas slipped in Round 17 to finish 10th that season.

Oh, but 2017 was even more heartbreaking! Despite scoring even better than 2016, Beijing once again resided in 10th spot. However, they were coming, yes sirree.

2018 was the year  8) Beijing skyrocketed to a much deserved preliminary final, and it was just accepted Beijing were a really good team ever since.

Scoring 1509 in the 2018 prelim would win you a lot of games, but it was not meant to be. 12 months later, they found themselves in the same spot in less impressive circumstances, and it was the same story in 2020.

But it's not the 'from 17th to 3 consecutive preliminary finals' story that makes Toges great (any by no means diminishing that amazing feat).

It's his character.

Courteous, fair and humble, and not ONCE in 7.5 years making my job harder, Toges will go down, in my opinion, as one of WXVs greatest people.

Always, always welcome at WXVs Toges, and if by some miracle I'm still running this addiction in years to come, and you feel like coming back, say the word and I'll... (put sunglasses on) find room  8).
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Toga on October 10, 2020, 04:58:01 PM
Thanks for the (mostly) kind words fellas. Will miss chatting with a lot of you guys. WXVs is a great community and has been great fun to be a part of. Would've loved to be clocking off with a flag in the cabinet but we just didn't quite get there.

I've gotta say thanks once again Purps for everything you do for the comp. That writeup is awesome!! Bit of history in that. Just shows how much you care and do for this comp, it really is something else. You are a legend!

Enjoy guys.
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: PowerBug on November 14, 2020, 10:07:50 PM
So AFL clubs can have between 37 and 44 players on their list. What will be the go with us?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on November 15, 2020, 11:19:08 AM
Quote from: PowerBug on November 14, 2020, 10:07:50 PM
So AFL clubs can have between 37 and 44 players on their list. What will be the go with us?

Thought it over, and honestly, I'm not sure how much science I can apply to this.

There will be a minimum of 37, which say, the likes of North might strive to. But, then there's Gold Coast, who'll likely have 44.

So, I think for the purposes of submitting a list lodgement, and for the applicable cap for the trade period, I'll split it down the middle, and round up to 41 players, as I think there will be a tendency to have more players rather than less from AFL clubs.

We will continue to draft all available players. If this means teams will draft 42nd, 43rd or 44th players, then they will be forced to be selected by clubs IF they have the available cap.

Teams flirting with the minimum cap cannot use 42nd, 43rd or 44th players to boost it. The cap levels are based on 41 players per list, so you must be over the minimum (and below the maximum) assuming a list of 41 players, as follows:

BEFORE

AVERAGE PER PLAYER 225,419.59
PLAYERS827
AVERAGE LIST SIZE45.94
AVERAGE SALARY $10,355,776
MAX (+5%) $10,900,000
MIN (-15%) $8,800,000

AFTER

AVERAGE PER PLAYER 225,419.59
PLAYERS (estimate)738
AVERAGE LIST SIZE (estimate)41
AVERAGE SALARY $9,242,203
MAX (+5%) $9,800,000
MIN (-15%) $7,800,000

So to clarify, I'm using the avg salary per player from 2020, and applying it to the estimate list size, to calculate the salary cap limits.

Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on November 15, 2020, 04:08:50 PM
alright, after some reflection (and a much better suggestion), we'll do this with the new cap.

The average cap of the top 738 players is $240,545. This excludes 89 players with a cap of $100k, which for the most part, reflects the kinds of players being delisted by AFL clubs.

so plugging that average in, our new cap looks like

NOW

AVERAGE PER PLAYER (top 738 players by cap) 240,545.00
PLAYERS (estimate)738
AVERAGE LIST SIZE (estimate)41
AVERAGE SALARY $9,862,345
MAX (+5%) $10,400,000
MIN (-15%) $8,300,000
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: upthemaidens on November 15, 2020, 04:36:54 PM
Will every AFL player be on a WXV list? Or will we have leftovers which will be available in next years draft?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Purple 77 on November 15, 2020, 06:30:21 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on November 15, 2020, 04:36:54 PM
Will every AFL player be on a WXV list? Or will we have leftovers which will be available in next years draft?

Quote from: Purple 77 on November 15, 2020, 11:19:08 AM
We will continue to draft all available players. If this means teams will draft 42nd, 43rd or 44th players, then they will be forced to be selected by clubs IF they have the available cap
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on December 12, 2020, 09:14:47 PM
can we neg someones draft pick?

then again i dont mind the boys club overrating players and taking them early
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on December 12, 2020, 09:17:23 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on December 12, 2020, 09:14:47 PM
can we neg someones draft pick?

then again i dont mind the boys club overrating players and taking them early

;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: PowerBug on December 12, 2020, 09:24:46 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on December 12, 2020, 09:14:47 PM
can we neg someones draft pick?

then again i dont mind the boys club overrating players and taking them early
Get your own draft picks then and show everyone what to do
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on December 12, 2020, 09:29:06 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on December 12, 2020, 09:24:46 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on December 12, 2020, 09:14:47 PM
can we neg someones draft pick?

then again i dont mind the boys club overrating players and taking them early
Get your own draft picks then and show everyone what to do

i'm the best drafter ever i don't even need pick 1 to get will phillips
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Pkbaldy on December 12, 2020, 09:32:20 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on December 12, 2020, 09:14:47 PM
can we neg someones draft pick?

then again i dont mind the boys club overrating players and taking them early

Da BoIz KluB
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: PowerBug on July 19, 2021, 07:52:34 PM
At what point do the people who were demanding a redraft of Church apologise to Koop who has clearly made this team no longer the worst in the comp?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Pkbaldy on July 20, 2021, 11:50:51 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on December 12, 2020, 09:14:47 PM
can we neg someones draft pick?

then again i dont mind the boys club overrating players and taking them early

Was this from Nige picking Davies? haha
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 20, 2021, 02:37:57 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on July 20, 2021, 11:50:51 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on December 12, 2020, 09:14:47 PM
can we neg someones draft pick?

then again i dont mind the boys club overrating players and taking them early

Was this from Nige picking Davies? haha
People hating me for being ahead of the curve, what's new?
Title: Re: WXV Discussion
Post by: PowerBug on March 22, 2022, 08:24:24 PM
Hi RD, if you want can you chuck this edit into your team list by position thread, I just like the players ordered in this way.

D: Daniel Rich, Brayden Maynard, Isaac Cumming, Changkuoth Jiath, Will Day, Luke Brown, Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera (MID), Josh Walker, Joel Hamling, Darragh Joyce, Alastair Lord

M: Brad Crouch, Matthew Kennedy, Karl Amon, Kyle Langford, Jack Viney, James Jordon, Ben Hobbs, Oskar Baker, Harry Sharp, Joel Western

R: Tom De Koning, Andrew Phillips, Sam Hayes, Oscar Adams (DEF), Charlie Comben (FWD)

F: Tim Taranto (MID), Tarryn Thomas (MID), Jeremy Cameron, Ben Brown, Jeremy Finlayson, Mason Wood, Gary Rohan, Eric Hipwood, Matt de Boer (MID), Jamarra Ugle-Hagan, Jed McEntee (MID), Todd Marshall, Steven Motlop, Mason Cox, Mitch W Brown, Eddie Ford, Taj Schofield (MID)
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