WXV Predictions 2018

Started by Adamant, February 01, 2018, 09:59:25 PM

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Adamant

Right, the trade period is finally over and WXV lists are now locked in for 2018. Time to get into some predictions.

Like previous years, this is based strictly on averages from last year. For players who didn't play last year or were clearly injury-affected and played around 5 games, I took their average from the season before (or in some cases, their last fully fit season). Perhaps a bit generous in some instances but it's more accurate than leaving them out altogether and replacing with a depth player.

Copy and pasted straight from the 2017 thread...

Have a read of where I've put you below! But more importantly, be BOLD and make some predictions yourself! Who will win the Jim Stynes medal? The rising star medal? What's your ladder? Who wins the premiership? It can be about anything and anyone, go nuts, and see how silly you were when you look back in 8-9 months time :P.




1. Dublin Destroyers
2017 Average: 147
2018 Average: 152 (1517.9 raw)









Defenders
Midfielders
Ruck
Forwards
Utilities
CAPTAIN






Alex Rance
Dustin Martin
Todd Goldstein
Justin Westhoff
Brad Crouch
Dustin Martin

     
89.5
119.3
94.8
87.2
96.2
119.3



Tom McDonald
Matt Crouch

Jack Gunston
Stephen Hill


84.7
110.6

86.4
80.4



Steven May
Rory Sloane

Tom Hawkins




84.1
110.2

86.2



Grant Birchall
Joel Selwood

Jack Riewoldt


     
84
102.2

82.8

Comments: The Nightmares hey? Not sure about the new motto, but what I am sure about is that the reigning premiers will yet again be one of the teams to beat in 2018, but perhaps with a few more question marks this time around. Are Lids and Birchall past it or can they get back to their best? More importantly, will they be fit come finals? Goldy spent a couple of weeks at Belfast last year, is Preuss the future or will they back in their once marquee player to reclaim his mantle? How will they go splitting ruck duties? I'm sure the coach would be quietly hoping for an injury to one of his behemoths. Despite these concerns, Dublin would still fancy their chances at making the top 4 due to sheer firepower.




2. Seoul Magpies
2017 Average: 147
2018 Average: 149 (1488.6)









Defenders
Midfielders
Ruck
Forwards
Utilities
CAPTAIN






Zach Tuohy
Patrick Dangerfield
Ben McEvoy
Toby Greene
Isaac Smith
Patrick Dangerfield

     
88.1
136.4
95.2
96
84.7
136.4



Christian Salem
Josh Kelly

Tom J. Lynch
Liam Shiels


79.5
114.3

85
77.7



Nick Haynes
Clayton Oliver

Caleb Daniel




75.8
111.4

79.3



Caleb Marchbank
David Swallow

Charlie Curnow


     
69.4
85.2

74.2

Comments: What they lack in other areas compared to the teams around them, is compensated by the fact they have a 136.4 averaging captain, backed up by 'support' players, and 2017's breakouts in Kelly and Oliver. You could argue that at least one, and possibly all three of KeliveField will see a drop off in output which would naturally cause a negative flow-on effect, but you could also argue that David Swallow, who had a consolidation season in 2017 and is now fully fit, could get back to his best and make it a quartet of 100+ midfielders. There's still improvement to come from Salem, Haynes, Marchbank and their young superstar forward, Charlie Curnow, too. They wouldn't want to cop an injury or two down back or up forward however.




3. New Delhi Tigers
2017 Average: 148
2018 Average: 148 (1479.1)









Defenders
Midfielders
Ruck
Forwards
Utilities
CAPTAIN






Bachar Houli
Daniel Hannebery
Stefan Martin
Sam Menegola
Jack Ziebell
Sam Menegola

     
94.1
97.3
98.2
100.4
89.8
100.4



Jeremy Howe
Steele Sidebottom

Robbie Gray
Jack Newnes


94.1
96

91.7
84.7



Daniel Rich
Jack Steven

Luke Dahlhaus




91.5
90.7

90.7



Jake Lloyd
Scott Selwood

Jack Martin


     
87.3
90.7

81.5

Comments: Quite possibly the most balanced starting lineup in WXV history. The fact they sit 3rd overall despite Sam Menegola being their highest averaging player backs that up. The 2017 minor premiers still have plenty of improvement left in them too with Hanners, Sidey, Steven and Gray all at least 10 points below their 2017 output, coupled with some of the best depth in the competition in Heartless, Darling and my personal favourite, Ed Langdon, they are going to be hard to beat. I'm sure Rico and ele would be expecting Hanners to get back to his best and take care of the captaincy duties.




4. Berlin Brewers
2017 Average: 139
2018 Average: 148 (1475.7)









Defenders
Midfielders
Ruck
Forwards
Utilities
CAPTAIN






Michael Hibberd
Nathan Fyfe
Max Gawn
Lance Franklin
Jack Viney
Nathan Fyfe

     
99.2
108.8
91.6
98.3
90.4
108.8



Luke Hodge
Josh P. Kennedy

Charlie Dixon
Zak Jones


84
102.6

90.9
83.1



Jake Lever
Nathan Jones

Michael Walters




79
100.9

87



Dane Rampe
Brendon Goddard

Matthew Wright


     
77.7
97.4

76.1

Comments: One of the premiership fancies heading into the season, the Brewers really did have a season to forget in 2017, highlighted by a devastating elimination final defeat at the hands of the mighty Wolves. Despite this, they were still 6th overall for average points per game and have added some firepower over the off-season with the likes of JPK, Goddard and Nate Jones among others. Fyfe was a shade of his former self in his return season from a broken leg and Gawn missed a large chunk of the season and was underwhelming on return. If these two are fit and firing, they could be the only team with two 120+ averaging players which spells trouble for the rest of the competition.




5. Beijing Thunder
2017 Average: 143
2018 Average: 144 (1443)









Defenders
Midfielders
Ruck
Forwards
Utilities
CAPTAIN






Brandon Ellis
Dayne Zorko
Brodie Grundy
Taylor Walker
Tom Rockliff
Dayne Zorko

     
91.4
110.8
97.2
86.1
96.2
110.8



Sam Mayes
Lachie Neale

Kane Lambert
Bradley Hill


80.2
109

86
79.1



Marcus Adams
Callan Ward

Josh Caddy




79.1
99.7

76.3



Jayden Hunt
Oliver Wines

Luke Breust


     
70.9
98.9

71.3

Comments: You have to feel for them don't you? 4th overall for average points per game last year and finished 10th. They'll be out for some retribution this year, let me tell you. This was already reflected throughout their trade period when they brought in one of the best SC players of all time in Tom Rockliff to add to their already star-studded midfield. Can he be the difference in 2018? the coaches would certainly be hoping so. Can't afford any injuries up front.




6. Pacific Islanders
2017 Average: 141
2018 Average: 144 (1439)








Defenders
Midfielders
Ruck
Forwards
Utilities
CAPTAIN






Michael Hurley
Tom Mitchell
Jarrod Witts
Michael Barlow
Sam Gibson
Tom Mitchell

     
102.5
118.9
94.3
84.2
81.4
118.9



Rory Laird
Marcus Bontempelli

Devon Smith
Cam Guthrie


100.2
105.1

79.9
73.9



Matt Suckling
Andrew Gaff

Josh Jenkins




77.7
93.1

79.2



Liam Duggan
Jarryd Lyons

Rhys Stanley


     
64.9
89.8

75

Comments: One of the most consistent teams going around, the Islanders weren't overly active in the trade period for the second year in a row, instead backing in their list to take the next step into the Grand Final. The Titchempelli combo will strike fear into every team it comes up against, while improved outputs from Barlow, Devon and Motlop will see an overall increase in their scoring ceiling. The coaches would also be hoping for breakout seasons for one of Duggan (class) or Bailey Williams to hold down that D4 spot, which looks to be their downfall. Will challenge.




7. Toronto Wolves
2017 Average: 136
2018 Average: 142 (1422.3)









Defenders
Midfielders
Ruck
Forwards
Utilities
CAPTAIN






Kade Simpson
Jackson Macrae
Nic Naitanui
David Mundy
Tom Bellchambers
Jackson Macrae

     
93.9
107
105.8
89.4
91.8
107



Alex Witherden
Scott Pendlebury

Allen Christensen
Jack Redden


87.1
106.7

86.2
79.7



Kade Kolodjashnij
Connor Blakely

Travis Boak



72.4
89.2

85.1



Ryan Clarke
Dion Prestia

Jesse Hogan


     
67.1
83

69.7

Comments: Ahh. If WXV was SuperCoach you would probably be picking this team. Destroyed by mass injuries early on, the Wolves averaged 141.3 over the last 11 rounds in 2017 (including finals) when they got close to their best side on the park, and have gotten considerably stronger over the off-season thanks to another whirlwind trade period. The coach would be expecting at least 10 point improvements from the likes of Blakely, Prestia, Hogan, Kolodjashnij, Clarke and Redden to take them even further than last year. Pendles and Nic Nat bouncing back to uber premo status would be handy too.




8. Christchurch Saints
2017 Average: 133
2018 Average: 142 (1421.5)









Defenders
Midfielders
Ruck
Forwards
Utilities
CAPTAIN






Heath Shaw
Gary Ablett Jnr
Aaron Sandilands
Toby McLean
Tom Scully
Gary Ablett Jnr

     
83.3
114.8
87.3
85.5
88.1
114.8



Jarrad McVeigh
Marc Murphy

Jarrad Waite
Tom Liberatore


82.7
108.2

82.1
79.1



Tom Langdon
Bryce Gibbs

Daniel Wells



82.1
102.4

71.1



Nathan Wilson
Luke Parker

Jake Stringer


     
75.9
99.3

64.6

Comments: Usually renowned for their depth, the under-performing Saints had a very productive trade period and now boast one of the more menacing starting lineups in the competition, headlined by one Gary Ablett Jnr. He's well backed up in the midfield too, with Parker, Murphy and Gibbs all likely to average 100+, throw in Libba, Heater, Waite and Wells, and this team probably has the highest ceiling in the competition. The only question mark is can their veteran's stay on the park? That will be the difference between an early finals exit and a premiership. Ryan Griffen is their M7 so he's not crucial. McVeigh hasn't missed a beat this pre-season, does he have one last hurrah left in him? If Toby Mac can continue at his rapid rate of improvement going all the way back to his junior days then he might just be the #1 forward in 2018.

Adamant

#1
 9. Moscow Spetsnaz
2017 Average: 128
2018 Average: 141 (1412.5)









Defenders
Midfielders
Ruck
Forwards
Utilities
CAPTAIN






Ryan Burton
Adam Treloar
Matthew Kreuzer
Joe Daniher
Sam Jacobs
Matthew Kreuzer

     
83.7
101.4
109.8
86
95.7
109.8



Jack Crisp
Dyson Heppell

Jordan De Goey
Jack Sinclair


82.2
99.6

79
83.6



Liam Jones
Stephen Coniglio

Jack Watts



77.5
91.7

75.8



David Astbury
Shaun Grigg

Blake Acres


     
73.2
88.5

75

Comments: Heppell, JOM and Hooker gone in 2016, NN and JOM last year, and they now lose their superstar defender for 2018. Poor buggers. Were shaping up as a consensus top 8 side before Docherty went down, but Moscow will still do some damage this year. Treloar, Heppell and Coniglio is a very good midfield trio, and each of them have up to 10 points improvement still in them. The twin towers (Kreuzer and Jacobs) is the envy of just about every coach in the league, and they also have some of the best young talent in the competition in Burton, Daniher, De Goey, Acres, Scharenberg, SPS and Jack Sinclair (underrated gun). Wouldn't be shocked if they were up there come the end of the season.




10. New York Revolution
2017 Average: 135
2018 Average: 141 (1408.3)









Defenders
Midfielders
Ruck
Forwards
Utilities
CAPTAIN






Shannon Hurn
Shaun Higgins
Patrick Ryder
Isaac Heeney
Hugh Greenwood
Patrick Ryder

     
88.6
91.9
103.1
97.6
84.6
103.1



Robbie Tarrant
Jack Steele

Josh J. Kennedy
Richard Douglas


79.2
91.1

93.5
82



Pearce Hanley
Luke Dunstan

Jarryd Roughead



77.9
88.3

86.6



Lachie Henderson
Jordan Lewis

Sam Reid


     
77.7
87.3

75.8

Comments: A rock solid team with a killer forward trio, the Revolution are clearly lacking in the midfield but Luke Dunstan had a strong finish to the season and the coaches would be hoping he can push triple figures in 2018 to cover the loss of star midfielder Joel Selwood. The general consensus was that they weren't deserving of their top 8 spot in 2017, and yet they ended up winning a final and went out with a score of 154. They'll be looking to silence their critics again.




11. Cape Town Cobras
2017 Average: 126
2018 Average: 136 (1355.7)









Defenders
Midfielders
Ruck
Forwards
Utilities
CAPTAIN






Luke McDonald
Mitch Duncan
Toby Nankervis
Tom Papley
Touk Miller
Mitch Duncan

     
83.9
109.8
88.8
82.1
76.3
109.8



Aaron Mullett
Brad Ebert

Lewis Taylor
Darcy Lang


80.2
100.7

79.6
70.1



Jasper Pittard
Ben Cunnington

Alex Neal-Bullen



78.9
91.1

75.5



Callum Mills
Mark Blicavs

Kieren Jack


     
73.3
81.6

74

Comments: The Cobras have a nice mix of youth and experience, with some elite young talent on every line. The underperforming 2017 midfield of JPK, Prestia and Hunter has been renovated into Duncan, Ebert and Cunnington in the hope they will bring better fortunes to the engine room. The Cobras also have plenty of players looking to improve on their 2017 averages in McDonald, Mills, Blicavs, Jack, Touk and Lang. Should be one of the big improvers this year.




12. PNL Reindeers
2017 Average: 133
2018 Average: 132 (1339.8)









Defenders
Midfielders
Ruck
Forwards
Utilities
CAPTAIN






Jarrod Harbrow
Zach Merrett
Sam Naismith
Chad Wingard
Marley Williams
Zach Merrett

     
80.4
109.2
66.2
93
72.1
109.2



Paul Seedsman
Dylan Shiel

Jack Billings
Ben Keays


78
97.7

92.7
68.8



Luke Ryan
Mitch Wallis

Cyril Rioli



76.8
87.8

89.8



Andy Otten
Matthew Kennedy

Jonathon Patton


     
72.7
64.8

80.6

Comments: One of the best young forward lines in the comp, a 22yo gun captain, and a host of breakout contenders in their midst. The Reindeers have a good foundation for future success, but perhaps lack the depth at this point in time (particularly down back). A couple more wins should be on the cards at the very least.




13. Cairo Sands
2017 Average: 136
2018 Average: 133 (1327.3)









Defenders
Midfielders
Ruck
Forwards
Utilities
CAPTAIN






Dylan Roberton
Taylor Adams
Dawson Simpson
Mitch Robinson
Ricky Henderson
Taylor Adams

     
92.6
107.5
44
82.1
77.2
107.5



Jeremy McGovern
Dayne Beams

Ben Brown
Andrew McGrath


90.7
101.4

77
70.7



Shane Savage
David Zaharakis

Rory Lobb



87.3
91.2

72.1



Nick Vlastuin
Sam Kerridge

Jeff Garlett


     
78.2
78.4

69.4

Comments: One of the hard luck stories of last year, 2018 is going to be a lot harder without a ruck. On the bright side, the retirement of Mummy gives Rory Lobb the opportunity to be one of the top forwards of the competition, so it's not all bad. Cairo have some genuine guns in Adams, Beams, Roberton, McGovern and McGrath to name a few, but perhaps looking towards 2019 and Izak Rankine isn't a bad idea.




14. Rio de Janeiro Jaguars
2017 Average: 139
2018 Average: 130 (1304.2)









Defenders
Midfielders
Ruck
Forwards
Utilities
CAPTAIN






Elliot Yeo
Patrick Cripps
Cameron Pedersen
Jeremy Cameron
Matt Rosa
Elliot Yeo

     
102.1
97.7
85.8
89.1
74
102.1



Angus Brayshaw
Jaeger O'Meara

Gary Rohan
Billy Hartung


72
97.6

69.4
73.2



Brayden Maynard
Aaron Hall

Tim Taranto



71.8
92.2

66.5



Mark Baguley
Dom Tyson

Levi Greenwood


     
67.1
81.3

62.3

Comments: Hard to believe it was only a year ago when the Jags were the reigning WXV premiers. They decided to take some action after their premiership hangover and their list is now nearly unrecognisable as a result. Cripps is a beast and is more than capable of filling the void left by Ablett. JOM, Cameron, Brayshaw, Taranto, Tyson and Ah Chee were good inclusions which will see them rise again in the not too distant future.




15. Tokyo Samurai
2017 Average: 125
2018 Average: 127 (1273.7)









Defenders
Midfielders
Ruck
Forwards
Utilities
CAPTAIN






Jason Johannisen
Sebastian Ross
Zac Smith
McDonald-Tipungwuti
Rory Atkins
Sebastian Ross

     
82
101
91.3
73.8
79
101



Martin Gleeson
Trent Cotchin

Charlie Cameron
Tom Phillips


69.5
101

67.8
75.9



Lachie Plowman
Lachie Whitfield

Jamie Cripps



65.3
97.6

64.6



Aidan Corr
Will Hoskin-Elliott

Kayne Turner


     
60.5
81.3

62.1

Comments: Trent Cotchin was a good get for the perennial cellar dwellars. Other than that I'm struggling to find any real positives. Zac Williams going down was a huge blow to an already weakened backline. Who knows, mabye they'll surprise a few this year.




16. London Royals
2017 Average: 122
2018 Average: 125 (1252.2)









Defenders
Midfielders
Ruck
Forwards
Utilities
CAPTAIN






Adam Saad
Luke Shuey
Callum Sinclair
Tom T. Lynch
Orazio Fantasia
Luke Shuey

     
72.7
96.2
79.5
85.7
73.5
96.2



Heath Grundy
Shaun Burgoyne

Ryan Lester
Jordan Roughead


72.5
87.6

79
71.5



Neville Jetta
Dom Sheed

Sam Gray



67.7
83.6

75.5



Blake Hardwick
Rhys Mathieson

Tim Membrey


     
63.5
72.8

74.7

Comments: Made some inroads during the trade period at least. Trading out their superstar in Hanners was a big call, but they were well compensated with Sheed, Mathieson and Jack Higgins. Was it worth it? I would say absolutely yes. Sometimes you have to go back to move forward. Burgoyne will bring experience which will assist the development of the youngsters.




17. Buenos Aires Armadillos
2017 Average: 116
2018 Average: 121 (1206.7)









Defenders
Midfielders
Ruck
Forwards
Utilities
CAPTAIN






Shane Biggs
David Armitage
Tom Nicholls
Cale Hooker
Chris Masten
David Armitage

     
79.4
87
41
79.1
73.5
87



Jamie MacMillan
Ed Curnow

Darcy Parish
Jimmy Webster


77.2
86.1

76.2
71.1



Harry Taylor
Koby Stevens

Shane Edwards



73.6
79.1

75.4



Lee Spurr
Trent Dumont

Jamie Elliott


     
72.2
75

73.8

Comments: What the flower, is this team living in the 70s or what? Jokes aside... is there anything left to say? Alright I'll be serious for a minute. What this team does possess is some incredible kids. Parish, Dumont, Berry, Dow, Brayshaw, Cerra, Joe Atley, Coffield, Scrimshaw, Bonner, Simpkin, Florent, Bonar and the tank-less Rayner. If they can keep this group together, they're going to be hard to beat in a few seasons time. Or, you know, they could just cash them in for guns after a couple of seasons. Either way, there is a platform there to become a real threat in the near future.




18. Mexico City Suns
2017 Average: 136
2018 Average: 118 (1175.9)









Defenders
Midfielders
Ruck
Forwards
Utilities
CAPTAIN






Bernie Vince
Nic Newman
Billy Longer
Christian Petracca
Anthony Miles
Nic Newman

     
74
82.7
78.1
78.8
70.6
82.7



Matthew Broadbent
Lachie Hunter

Jordan Murdoch
Lewis Jetta


68.9
82.3

70.6
70.3



Tyson Goldsack
Jack Graham

Tim O'Brien



67.8
81.5

60.4



Jarryn Geary
Jared Polec

Jarryd Blair


     
65.9
81.5

59.8

Comments: Look, this was a long time coming and we know that 2018 isn't going to be pleasant so I'm just going to go straight to the youth. Petracca, Hunter, Sicily, Graham, Longer, LDU, Weitering. There is something to work with there. The coach has already experienced premiership success but now it's time to invest in the kids and watch them develop. I have a feeling that big Billy will be captaining the side a few times this year.

Torpedo10

On 2017 averages, Docherty would've pushed us to 5th... :-[

Nige

I'd be stoked with 12th tbh.  :P

Levi434

Top work Adamant.

I think it would be cool if all coaches reasonably predicted their own players then we saw from there.

meow meow


Purple 77

An awesome read!

I feel like every year I do well in the predictions, but always fall short. Some luck would be appreciated, please.

RaisyDaisy

Fantastic work Ada!

I actually burst out in laughter to myself - you know you're in for a long year when Nic Newman is your M1 and Captain  ;D :P

Holz

152 im pretty happy with that.

especially with Jelly B.Crouch and Hill easily capable of adding 2-3 points to that.

hopefully i have a greenwood or Tmac on the bench aswell.

Balic and Holman would be my front runners for that

GoLions

Quote from: Adamant on February 01, 2018, 10:01:27 PM
11. Cape Town Cobras
2017 Average: 126
2018 Average: 136 (1355.7)









Defenders
Midfielders
Ruck
Forwards
Utilities
CAPTAIN






Luke McDonald
Mitch Duncan
Toby Nankervis
Tom Papley
Touk Miller
Mitch Duncan

     
83.9
109.8
88.8
82.1
76.3
109.8



Aaron Mullett
Brad Ebert

Lewis Taylor
Darcy Lang


80.2
100.7

79.6
70.1



Jasper Pittard
Ben Cunnington

Alex Neal-Bullen



78.9
91.1

75.5



Callum Mills
Mark Blicavs

Kieren Jack


     
73.3
81.6

74

Comments: The Cobras have a nice mix of youth and experience, with some elite young talent on every line. The underperforming 2017 midfield of JPK, Prestia and Hunter has been renovated into Duncan, Ebert and Cunnington in the hope they will bring better fortunes to the engine room. The Cobras also have plenty of players looking to improve on their 2017 averages in McDonald, Mills, Blicavs, Jack, Touk and Lang. Should be one of the big improvers this year.
Lmac +5
Mullet +90
showertard +10
Mills +10

Duncan about the same
Ebert -5
Cunnington about the same
Blicavs +10

Nank +5
Paps +10
Squizz +5
ANB +5
Jack +10

Touk +15
Lang +10

Extra 180ppg, puts me at 1535ppg and the #1 team. Ez.

Levi434

Quote from: GoLions on February 02, 2018, 12:43:33 PM

Mullet +90


Sssshhhhhhhhhiiiiiiiiiioooowwweerrrrr

Looks like we have another lock for our SC teams!

meow meow

Lucky Griff isn't in the best XV because his + would be incomprehensible to most.

Holz

Quote from: meow meow on February 02, 2018, 01:07:56 PM
Lucky Griff isn't in the best XV because his + would be incomprehensible to most.

I agree

is it

+0
-0
+/- 0
or just 0

im struggling to deal with it

Levi434


Levi434

It shall be very eye-opening!