Trading Rules:
- All trades must balance (ie. be 1-1 or 2-2 etc..)
- National and Rookie draft picks can be traded.
- There is no limit on movements (Recycle Draft year only)
- Teams will not be allowed to trade players that are named on the AFL website as Retired/Delisted or the compo picks unless allowed by admin ( the reason for allowing this might be be that an AFL club has agreed to re-draft this player)
- All trades will be ruled on by Grannyboy and Football Factory. Trades involving one of our own teams will see the coach involved excluded from the process in order to avoid a conflict of interest.
- If 4 or more coaches appeal a trade, a trade can be reviewed and a decision may be over-turned.
- Please save all comments regarding a trade for after both parties have publicly stated their confirmation.
Trade Period 1
Trading period 1 will finish on Sunday 16th November at 11pm EST.
* Trades have been added to team lists, Drafts
Team Lists: http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,99115.msg1478483.html#msg1478483
National Draft: http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,99117.0.html
Rookie Draft: http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,99119.0.html
Can coaches please look at team lists and drafts to make sure everything is correct, thanks :)
Trade 1:*
Hawaii Give: Alex Sexton + Darren Minchington
Calgary Give: Jimmy Webster + Nat Pick 39
Approved
Trade 2:*
Dallas Give: Levi Greenwood + Nat Pick 2 + Matt Buntine
Calgary Give: Bryce Gibbs + Nat Pick 10 + Tom Sheridan
Approved
Trade 3:*
Arizona Give: Nat Pick 18 + Dawson Simpson
Calgary Give: Jarrod Witts + Sean Lemmens
Approved
Trade 4:*
El Paso Give: David Zaharakis
Dallas Give: Dayne Zorko
Approved
Trade 5:*
Hawaii Give: Toby Greene + Travis Cloke + Thomas Bugg + Scott Thompson + Nat Pick 16
El Paso Give: Luke Parker + Josh J Kennedy + Ben Lennon + Ben Kennedy + Nat Pick 11
Approved
Trade 6:*
Asuncion Give: Matthew Lobbe + Nat Pick 46
Dallas Give: Paul Seedsman + Angus Litherland
Approved
Trade 7:*
El Paso Give: Patrick Dagerfield + Brad Crouch + Cameron Shenton
Vancouver Give: Pearce Hanley + Steele Sidebottom + Ben Brown
Approved
Trade 8:*
Dallas Give: Brent Stanton + Cameron Delaney + James Toohey
Vancouver Give: Jack Riewoldt + Shane Savage + Paul Duffield
Approved
Trade 9:*
Vancouver Give: Sam Mayes + Nat Pick 4
Calgary Give: Robbie Gray + Rookie Pick 15
Approved
Trade 10:*
Dallas Give: Kurt Tippet + Dane Rampe
Los Angeles Give: Rookie Pick 6 + Sam Reid
Approved
Trade 11:*
Vancouver Give: Lachlan Hansen + Dardy Gardiner + Nat Pick 21
Calgary Give: Luke Dunstan + Dom Barry + Kaiden Brand
Approved
Trade 12:*
Roswell Give: Dale Thomas + Rookie Pick 13 + Nat Pick 36
El Paso Give: Ryan Harwood + Rookie Pick 11 + Nat Pick 14
Approved
Trade 13:*
Vancouver Give: Sam Docherty + Daniel Rich + Nat Pick 28
Calgary Give: Jimmy Bartel + Jack Viney + Aidan Corr
Approved
Trade 14:*
Hawaii Give: Rohan Bail + Nat Pick 33
Vancouver Give: Mitch Golby + Shem Tatupu
Approved
Trade 15:*
Dallas Give: Dyson Heppell + Jacob Ballard
Hawaii Give: Jordan Lewis + Rookie Pick 9
Approved
Trade 16:*
Calgary Give: Adam Oxley + Nick Holman + Rookie Pick 10
El Paso Give: Nat Pick 35 + Nat Pick 36 + Nat Pick 38
Approved
Trade 17:*
El Paso Give: Tom Boyd
Springfield Give: Mark Hutchings
Approved
Trade 18:*
El Paso Give: Luke Shuey + Jarryd Lyons + Nat Pick 16
Vancouver Give: Jimmy Bartel + Luke Dunstan + Rookie Pick 4
Approved
Trade 19:*
Vancouver Give: Nat Pick 33 + Nat Pick 45
Calgary Give: Nat Pick 28 + Cameron Ellis-Yolmen
Approved
Trade 20:*
Hawaii Give: Nat Pick 39 + Nat Pick 40
Calgary Give: Trent Dumont + Kieran Harper
Approved
Trade 21:*
Roswell Give: Nat Pick 37 + Matthew Boyd
El Paso Give: Mitch Grigg + Nick Holman
Approved
Trade 22:*
Calgary Give: Koby Stevens
El Paso Give: Nat Pick 37
Approved
Trade 23:*
Hawaii Give: Matthew Wright + Ben Jacobs + Craig Moller
Vancouver Give: Jasper Pittard + Nat Pick 16 + Rookie Pick 15
Approved
Trade 24:*
Hawaii Give: Cameron Sutcliffe + Mitch Hallahan + Taylor Duryea
Dallas Give: Paul Duffield + Garrick Ibbotson + Shane Savage
Approved
Trade 25:*
El Paso Give: Dayne Zorko + Allen Christensen
Calgary Give: Todd Goldstein + Justin Westhoff
Approved
Trade 26:*
El Paso Give: Aaron Sandilands
Vancouver Give: Adam Cooney
Approved
Trade 27:*
Vancouver Give: C.Dixon + D.Lang + K.Brand
Springfield Give: T.Nicholls + Rookie 24 + Nat 48
Approved
Trade 28:*
Springfield Give: Jack Trengove [Melb]
Washington Give: NAT pick 41
Approved
Trade 29:*
Vancouver Give: Zac Smith + Nathan Freeman + Rookie 21
Hawaii Give: Shaun Higgins + Kieran Harper + Shem Tatupu
Approved
Trade 30:*
Arizona Give: Josh Green + Rookie 7
Calgary Give: Michael Johnson + Darren Minchington
Approved
Trade 31:
Hawaii Give: Tom Mitchell + Kieran Harper + Nat 16
Calgary Give: Mark LeCras + Jimmy Toumpas + Nat 15
Rejected - Kieran Harper doesn't play for Hawaii
Trade 32:*
Arizona Give: Jason Ashby
Springfield Give: Nat Pick 24
Approved
Trade 33:*
Vancouver Give: L. Montagna + Nat Pick 28
Calgary Give: Rookie Pick 7 + Nat Pick 18
Approved
Trade 34:*
El Paso Give: Marc Murphy + Jack Watts + Tom Curren
Hawaii Give: Stevie J + Zac Smith + Rookie 15
Approved
Trade 35:*
Calgary Give: M.Lecras + Nat 21 + Nat 28 + Nat 45
Vancouver Give: S.Higgins + K.Cornes + R.Bewick + K.Harper
Approved
Trade 36:
Vancouver Give: Matthew Wright + Jack Viney + Rookie Pick 7
Dallas Give: Bryce Gibbs + National Pick 26 + Thomas Downie
Rejected - Trade was ruled as unfair
Trade 37:*
Vancouver Give: Matthew Wright + Jack Viney + Rookie Pick 24
Dallas Give: Bryce Gibbs + National Pick 26 + Thomas Downie
Approved
Trade 38:*
Vancouver Give: Mark LeCras + Eddie Betts + Rookie Pick 7
El Paso Give: Luke Dunstan + Matthew Boyd + Matthew Shaw
Approved
Trade 39:
El Paso Give: Tom Bugg + Ben Brown
Dallas Give: Josh Caddy + Tom Bellchambers
Rejected - trade was ruled as unfair
Trade 40:*
Arizona Give: Liam Sumner + Nat 24 + Nat 31 + Rookie 18
Vancouver Give: Jake Neade + Nat 18 + + Nat 21 + Nat 45
Approved
Trade 41:
Calgary Give: Matthew Stokes + Isaac Smith
El Paso Give: Jamie Elliot + Mark LeCras
Rejected - trade was ruled as unfair
Trade 42:*
El Paso Give: Mark LeCras + Jamie Elliot + Josh Prudden
Calgary Give: Isaac Smith + Matthew Stokes + Travis Colyer
Approved
Trade 43:*
Hawaii Give: Nat 9 + Nat 11
Los Angeles Give: Nat 6 + Nat 19
Approved
Trade 44:*
Hawaii Give: Jack Billings + Nat 6 + Nat 19
Asuncion Give: Trent Cotchin + Simon Tunbridge + Rookie 22
Approved
Trade 45:*
Vancouver Give: Matt Shaw + Nat 28
Los Angelas Give: Tom Hawkins + Max Duffy
Approved
Trade 46:*
Roswell Give: Nat 14 + Nick Holman
Asuncion Give: Nat 19 + Brad Hartman
Approved
Trade 47:
Dallas Give: Josh Caddy + Mitch Clark + Joel Tippett
Vancouver Give: Nat Pick 24 + Nat Pick 26 + Rookie Pick 18
Trade was ruled as unfair
Dallas Give: Josh Caddy + Mitch Clark + Joel Tippet + Alex Silvagni
Vancouver Give: Nat 24 + Nat 26 + Nat 31 + Rookie 18
Trade was ruled again as unfair
Trade 48:
Hawaii Give: Tom Mitchell
Calgary Give: Lance Franklin
Trade was too late
TRADE PERIOD ONE IS NOW CLOSED
Hawaii Give: A.Sexton + D.Minchington
Calgary Give: J.Webster + Nat Pick 39
R.Griff to confirm
Quote from: elephants on October 08, 2014, 06:14:33 PM
Hawaii Give: A.Sexton + D.Minchington
Calgary Give: J.Webster + Nat Pick 39
R.Griff to confirm
Confirm
SydneyRox gets: Kurt Tippet + Dane Rampe
Atto gets: Rookie Pick 5 + Sam Reid
Memph gets: Paul Seedsman + Angus Litherland
Atto gets: Matthew Lobbe + National Pick 46
Picker man gets: Brent Stanton + Cameron Delaney + James Toohey
Atto gets: Jack Riewoldt + Shane Savage + Paul Duffield
TDog gets: Dayne Zorko
Atto gets: David Zaharakis
R.Griffen gets: Levi Greenwood + National Pick 2 + Matt Buntine
Atto gets: Bryce Gibbs +National Pick 10 + Tom Sheridan
Those guys to confirm.
Quote from: Atto on October 08, 2014, 06:20:54 PM
R.Griffen gets: Levi Greenwood + National Pick 2 + Matt Buntine
Atto gets: Bryce Gibbs +National Pick 10 + Tom Sheridan
Those guys to confirm.
Confirm
Arizona give: Pick 18 Nat draft + Dawson Simpson
Calgary give: Jarrod Witts + Sean Lemmens
Griff to confirm
Enormous trade this one!
Hawaii Give: T.Greene + T.Cloke + T.Bugg + S.Thompson + N16
El Paso Give: L.Parker + JJ.Kennedy + B.Lennon + B.Kennedy + N11
The Dog to confirm!
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 08, 2014, 06:29:43 PM
Arizona give: Pick 18 Nat draft + Dawson Simpson
Calgary give: Jarrod Witts + Sean Lemmens
Griff to confirm
Confirm
Quote from: Atto on October 08, 2014, 06:20:54 PM
TDog gets: Dayne Zorko
Atto gets: David Zaharakis
Those guys to confirm.
T Dog confirms
Quote from: elephants on October 08, 2014, 06:31:03 PM
Enormous trade this one!
Hawaii Give: T.Greene + T.Cloke + T.Bugg + S.Thompson + N16
El Paso Give: L.Parker + JJ.Kennedy + B.Lennon + B.Kennedy + N11
The Dog to confirm!
T Dog confirms
Calgary Receives S.Mayes + Nat 4
Vancouver Receives R.Gray + Rookie pick 15
Picker Man to confirm
Quote from: Atto on October 08, 2014, 06:20:54 PM
Memph gets: Paul Seedsman + Angus Litherland
Atto gets: Matthew Lobbe + National Pick 46
Confirmed.
We have the Nic Nat/Lycett combo and are in need of defenders so could afford to give up Lobbe.
Seedsman and Litherland I see as future premos and have a good age profile for our team.
Quote from: T Dog on October 08, 2014, 06:39:52 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 08, 2014, 06:31:03 PM
Enormous trade this one!
Hawaii Give: T.Greene + T.Cloke + T.Bugg + S.Thompson + N16
El Paso Give: L.Parker + JJ.Kennedy + B.Lennon + B.Kennedy + N11
The Dog to confirm!
T Dog confirms
Which S.Thompson is it? Probably a good idea to list this give there are two...
Quote from: Memphistopheles on October 08, 2014, 07:30:01 PM
Quote from: T Dog on October 08, 2014, 06:39:52 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 08, 2014, 06:31:03 PM
Enormous trade this one!
Hawaii Give: T.Greene + T.Cloke + T.Bugg + S.Thompson + N16
El Paso Give: L.Parker + JJ.Kennedy + B.Lennon + B.Kennedy + N11
The Dog to confirm!
T Dog confirms
Which S.Thompson is it? Probably a good idea to list this give there are two...
The only one I own, Scott Thompson (ADE)...
El Paso give: P.Dagerfield; B. Crouch; C. Shenton
Vancouver give: P. Hanley; S. Sidebottom; B. Brown
Pickerman to confirm
Quote from: R.Griffen on October 08, 2014, 06:47:30 PM
Calgary Receives S.Mayes + Nat 4
Vancouver Receives R.Gray + Rookie pick 15
Picker Man to confirm
Confirmed :)
If I want the premiership next year I needed atleast one gun forward, I highly rate Mayes but him and pick 4 don't fit into my plans for the next couple of years
More then happy to stick Gray at F1 :)
Quote from: T Dog on October 08, 2014, 08:05:54 PM
El Paso give: P.Dagerfield; B. Crouch; C. Shenton
Vancouver give: P. Hanley; S. Sidebottom; B. Brown
Pickerman to confirm
I'm a crows fan as if I don't want want Danger and a future gun!!
Confirmed :)
Quote from: Atto on October 08, 2014, 06:20:54 PM
SydneyRox gets: Kurt Tippet + Dane Rampe
Atto gets: Rookie Pick 5 + Sam Reid
Memph gets: Paul Seedsman + Angus Litherland
Atto gets: Matthew Lobbe + National Pick 46
Picker man gets: Brent Stanton + Cameron Delaney + James Toohey
Atto gets: Jack Riewoldt + Shane Savage + Paul Duffield
TDog gets: Dayne Zorko
Atto gets: David Zaharakis
R.Griffen gets: Levi Greenwood + National Pick 2 + Matt Buntine
Atto gets: Bryce Gibbs +National Pick 10 + Tom Sheridan
Those guys to confirm.
I confirm the trade between me and Atto in that post
I needed a Premo mid badly.... Most ppl bag on Stanton but his stats don't lie hence why i wanted him to help with the premiership quest next year :D
Quote from: picker_man on October 08, 2014, 08:27:23 PM
Quote from: Atto on October 08, 2014, 06:20:54 PM
SydneyRox gets: Kurt Tippet + Dane Rampe
Atto gets: Rookie Pick 5 + Sam Reid
Memph gets: Paul Seedsman + Angus Litherland
Atto gets: Matthew Lobbe + National Pick 46
Picker man gets: Brent Stanton + Cameron Delaney + James Toohey
Atto gets: Jack Riewoldt + Shane Savage + Paul Duffield
TDog gets: Dayne Zorko
Atto gets: David Zaharakis
R.Griffen gets: Levi Greenwood + National Pick 2 + Matt Buntine
Atto gets: Bryce Gibbs +National Pick 10 + Tom Sheridan
Those guys to confirm.
I confirm the trade between me and Atto in that post
I needed a Premo mid badly.... Most ppl bag on Stanton but his stats don't lie hence why i wanted him to help with the premiership quest next year :D
Hopefully he doesn't get banned for 6 months :-X
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 08, 2014, 08:35:10 PM
Quote from: picker_man on October 08, 2014, 08:27:23 PM
Quote from: Atto on October 08, 2014, 06:20:54 PM
SydneyRox gets: Kurt Tippet + Dane Rampe
Atto gets: Rookie Pick 5 + Sam Reid
Memph gets: Paul Seedsman + Angus Litherland
Atto gets: Matthew Lobbe + National Pick 46
Picker man gets: Brent Stanton + Cameron Delaney + James Toohey
Atto gets: Jack Riewoldt + Shane Savage + Paul Duffield
TDog gets: Dayne Zorko
Atto gets: David Zaharakis
R.Griffen gets: Levi Greenwood + National Pick 2 + Matt Buntine
Atto gets: Bryce Gibbs +National Pick 10 + Tom Sheridan
Those guys to confirm.
I confirm the trade between me and Atto in that post
I needed a Premo mid badly.... Most ppl bag on Stanton but his stats don't lie hence why i wanted him to help with the premiership quest next year :D
Hopefully he doesn't get banned for 6 months :-X
& hopefully he's a back next year mate :D
Chances of either...... Not much lol
Zaharakis didn't take part in the supplements program cause he is shower scared of needles
Quote from: picker_man on October 08, 2014, 08:47:04 PM
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 08, 2014, 08:35:10 PM
Quote from: picker_man on October 08, 2014, 08:27:23 PM
Quote from: Atto on October 08, 2014, 06:20:54 PM
SydneyRox gets: Kurt Tippet + Dane Rampe
Atto gets: Rookie Pick 5 + Sam Reid
Memph gets: Paul Seedsman + Angus Litherland
Atto gets: Matthew Lobbe + National Pick 46
Picker man gets: Brent Stanton + Cameron Delaney + James Toohey
Atto gets: Jack Riewoldt + Shane Savage + Paul Duffield
TDog gets: Dayne Zorko
Atto gets: David Zaharakis
R.Griffen gets: Levi Greenwood + National Pick 2 + Matt Buntine
Atto gets: Bryce Gibbs +National Pick 10 + Tom Sheridan
Those guys to confirm.
I confirm the trade between me and Atto in that post
I needed a Premo mid badly.... Most ppl bag on Stanton but his stats don't lie hence why i wanted him to help with the premiership quest next year :D
Hopefully he doesn't get banned for 6 months :-X
& hopefully he's a back next year mate :D
Chances of either...... Not much lol
As a Bomber supporter with lots of Bomber players on my list I really hope your right man
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2014, 08:50:02 PM
Zaharakis didn't take part in the supplements program cause he is shower scared of needles
Luckiest bloke alive haha
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2014, 08:50:02 PM
Zaharakis didn't take part in the supplements program cause he is shower scared of needles
Talking about Stants mate
Quote from: Atto on October 08, 2014, 06:20:54 PM
SydneyRox gets: Kurt Tippet + Dane Rampe
Atto gets: Rookie Pick 5 + Sam Reid
Those guys to confirm.
confirm
Damn you have been busy!!
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 08, 2014, 11:09:56 PM
Quote from: Atto on October 08, 2014, 06:20:54 PM
SydneyRox gets: Kurt Tippet + Dane Rampe
Atto gets: Rookie Pick 5 + Sam Reid
Those guys to confirm.
confirm
Damn you have been busy!!
haha! It's fair to say I'm a 'tradeoholic'. :P
Quote from: Atto on October 08, 2014, 11:19:11 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 08, 2014, 11:09:56 PM
Quote from: Atto on October 08, 2014, 06:20:54 PM
SydneyRox gets: Kurt Tippet + Dane Rampe
Atto gets: Rookie Pick 5 + Sam Reid
Those guys to confirm.
confirm
Damn you have been busy!!
haha! It's fair to say I'm a 'tradeoholic'. :P
Join. The. Club.
:P
Vancouver Give: S.Docherty + D.Rich + M.Golby + Nat 28
Hawaii Give: J.Lewis + 3rd Nat + C.Moller + Nat 40
Picker to confirm
Quote from: elephants on October 09, 2014, 12:29:14 AM
Vancouver Give: S.Docherty + D.Rich + M.Golby + Nat 28
Hawaii Give: J.Lewis + 3rd Nat + C.Moller + Nat 40
Picker to confirm
Confirmed.
I think Docherty will be a gun defender one day so our back line will suffer from this trade in the future but I have very lil good midfielders, and to secure Lewis a top 5 ave playing from this yr our quest for the premiership just got a whole lot stronger!!
Quote from: picker_man on October 09, 2014, 12:38:04 AM
Quote from: elephants on October 09, 2014, 12:29:14 AM
Vancouver Give: S.Docherty + D.Rich + M.Golby + Nat 28
Hawaii Give: J.Lewis + 3rd Nat + C.Moller + Nat 40
Picker to confirm
Confirmed.
I think Docherty will be a gun defender one day so our back line will suffer from this trade in the future but I have very lil good midfielders, and to secure Lewis a top 5 ave playing from this yr our quest for the premiership just got a whole lot stronger!!
Did I miss something doesn't Mem have Nat 3?
3rd round Nat ^ so Nat 33
Quote from: elephants on October 09, 2014, 12:49:58 AM
3rd round Nat ^ so Nat 33
Oh sorry got confused as I never saw it traded before that
Vancouver Gives L.Hansen + D.Gardiner + Nat 21
Calgary Gives L..Dunstan + D.Barry + K.Brand
Quote from: R.Griffen on October 09, 2014, 12:57:08 AM
Vancouver Gives L.Hansen + D.Gardiner + Nat 21
Calgary Gives L..Dunstan + D.Barry + K.Brand
Confirmed.
My back line is getting small now :( Really needed another mid and prolly 2 more (anyone....) so hoping Dunstan improves next year, Should be a future gun though hopefully??
Quote from: elephants on October 08, 2014, 06:31:03 PM
Enormous trade this one!
Hawaii Give: T.Greene + T.Cloke + T.Bugg + S.Thompson + N16
El Paso Give: L.Parker + JJ.Kennedy + B.Lennon + B.Kennedy + N11
The Dog to confirm!
Eles now coaching the Alpacs and TDog the hydro bombs :P
Quote from: Grannyboy on October 09, 2014, 10:54:10 AM
Quote from: elephants on October 08, 2014, 06:31:03 PM
Enormous trade this one!
Hawaii Give: T.Greene + T.Cloke + T.Bugg + S.Thompson + N16
El Paso Give: L.Parker + JJ.Kennedy + B.Lennon + B.Kennedy + N11
The Dog to confirm!
Eles now coaching the Alpacs and TDog the hydro bombs :P
Ele would be so lucky..he can dream though.. ;D
Quote from: Grannyboy on October 09, 2014, 10:54:10 AM
Quote from: elephants on October 08, 2014, 06:31:03 PM
Enormous trade this one!
Hawaii Give: T.Greene + T.Cloke + T.Bugg + S.Thompson + N16
El Paso Give: L.Parker + JJ.Kennedy + B.Lennon + B.Kennedy + N11
The Dog to confirm!
Eles now coaching the Alpacs and TDog the hydro bombs :P
pmsl
Can everyone involved in trades please check the OP to make sure your trades are posted correctly. And if I have missed a confirmed trade please let me know thanks.
Quote from: elephants on October 08, 2014, 09:22:54 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2014, 08:50:02 PM
Zaharakis didn't take part in the supplements program cause he is shower scared of needles
Luckiest bloke alive haha
Him and windowlicker both.
Vancouver Give: S.Docherty + D.Rich + M.Golby + Nat 28
Hawaii Give: J.Lewis + Nat 33 + C.Moller + Nat 40
El Paso give: P.Dangerfield; B. Crouch; C. Shenton
Vancouver give: P. Hanley; S. Sidebottom; B. Brown
After some concern over these two trades raised by other coaches we are posting them for comment by other coaches. If you are involved in these trades please post reasons as to why you want the players/picks in question and why you are trading your players/picks.
Quote from: Grannyboy on October 09, 2014, 12:23:14 PM
Vancouver Give: S.Docherty + D.Rich + M.Golby + Nat 28
Hawaii Give: J.Lewis + Nat 33 + C.Moller + Nat 40
This one I'm just not entirely sure, Lewis had a breakout this season so essentially the main essence of this trade imo would be Docherty and Rich for Lewis, which I would I say is fair. So imo a fairer trade would be
Vancouver Give: S.Docherty + D.Rich
Hawaii Give: J.Lewis + Nat 40
Quote from: Grannyboy on October 09, 2014, 12:23:14 PM
El Paso give: P.Dangerfield; B. Crouch; C. Shenton
Vancouver give: P. Hanley; S. Sidebottom; B. Brown
This one I see as reasonably fair, especially if Hanley keeps his dpp back and Dangerfield loses his dpp fwd. If they are all going to be mids only, it still is fair as Sidebottom averaged more this season whilst Hanley is also a strong scorer, where Danger is a strong scorer and is proven to avg 100, and Crouch is a young gun who should avg 100 eventually. the other 2 players are just trade sweetners
Quote from: Grannyboy on October 09, 2014, 12:23:14 PM
Vancouver Give: S.Docherty + D.Rich + M.Golby + Nat 28
Hawaii Give: J.Lewis + Nat 33 + C.Moller + Nat 40
El Paso give: P.Dangerfield; B. Crouch; C. Shenton
Vancouver give: P. Hanley; S. Sidebottom; B. Brown
After some concern over these two trades raised by other coaches we are posting them for comment by other coaches. If you are involved in these trades please post reasons as to why you want the players/picks in question and why you are trading your players/picks.
The issue with the top one is that
Nat 28 + Golby
For
Nat 33 + Moller
Golby have played before and has been a 70+ Twice in his career at the age of 23.
Moller has played 1 game. And to state the obvious pick 28 is better than 33 doesn't make sense
This means Docherty + Rich for Lewis and Nat 40 I am fine with
The issue with the top one is that
Nat 28 + Golby
For
Nat 33 + Moller
Golby have played before and has been a 70+ Twice in his career at the age of 23.
Moller has played 1 game. And to state the obvious pick 28 is better than 33 doesn't make sense
This means Docherty + Rich for Lewis and Nat 40 I am fine with
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Its extremely concerning that he's been stuck in the NEAFL all season though. Leppa has come in and Golby is suddenly on the outer. Naturally, he's not a big part of this trade at all.
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He played 12 games in the AFL that's not all season in the NEAFL
Quote from: Grannyboy on October 09, 2014, 12:23:14 PM
El Paso give: P.Dangerfield; B. Crouch; C. Shenton
Vancouver give: P. Hanley; S. Sidebottom; B. Brown
2014 Averages
Danger 92,Crouch 96,Shenton 52
Hanley 98,Sidey 108,Brown 57
Danger and Hanley likely to lose DPP,Shenton likely to be def and Brown likely a fwd only not sure if they have factored this in at all would be nice to know this from the coaches involved in the trade :)
If the proposed positional cchanges happen you have 2 mids with higher averages are being traded for 2 mids with lower averages that may or mat not boost their averages next year.Brown seems to have cemented a spot in the Roos best 22 where Shenton is in and out of the team and seems to be a fringe player atm.
Quote from: LF on October 09, 2014, 01:08:21 PM
Quote from: Grannyboy on October 09, 2014, 12:23:14 PM
El Paso give: P.Dangerfield; B. Crouch; C. Shenton
Vancouver give: P. Hanley; S. Sidebottom; B. Brown
2014 Averages
Danger 92,Crouch 96,Shenton 52
Hanley 98,Sidey 108,Brown 57
Danger and Hanley likely to lose DPP,Shenton likely to be def and Brown likely a fwd only not sure if they have factored this in at all would be nice to know this from the coaches involved in the trade :)
If the proposed positional cchanges happen you have 2 mids with higher averages are being traded for 2 mids with lower averages that may or mat not boost their averages next year.Brown seems to have cemented a spot in the Roos best 22 where Shenton is in and out of the team and seems to be a fringe player atm.
Does Brown have a spot when Waite is there?
Quote from: R.Griffen on October 09, 2014, 01:11:11 PM
Quote from: LF on October 09, 2014, 01:08:21 PM
Quote from: Grannyboy on October 09, 2014, 12:23:14 PM
El Paso give: P.Dangerfield; B. Crouch; C. Shenton
Vancouver give: P. Hanley; S. Sidebottom; B. Brown
2014 Averages
Danger 92,Crouch 96,Shenton 52
Hanley 98,Sidey 108,Brown 57
Danger and Hanley likely to lose DPP,Shenton likely to be def and Brown likely a fwd only not sure if they have factored this in at all would be nice to know this from the coaches involved in the trade :)
If the proposed positional cchanges happen you have 2 mids with higher averages are being traded for 2 mids with lower averages that may or mat not boost their averages next year.Brown seems to have cemented a spot in the Roos best 22 where Shenton is in and out of the team and seems to be a fringe player atm.
Does Brown have a spot when Waite is there?
Apparently he does
Quote from: LF on October 09, 2014, 01:11:45 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on October 09, 2014, 01:11:11 PM
Quote from: LF on October 09, 2014, 01:08:21 PM
Quote from: Grannyboy on October 09, 2014, 12:23:14 PM
El Paso give: P.Dangerfield; B. Crouch; C. Shenton
Vancouver give: P. Hanley; S. Sidebottom; B. Brown
2014 Averages
Danger 92,Crouch 96,Shenton 52
Hanley 98,Sidey 108,Brown 57
Danger and Hanley likely to lose DPP,Shenton likely to be def and Brown likely a fwd only not sure if they have factored this in at all would be nice to know this from the coaches involved in the trade :)
If the proposed positional cchanges happen you have 2 mids with higher averages are being traded for 2 mids with lower averages that may or mat not boost their averages next year.Brown seems to have cemented a spot in the Roos best 22 where Shenton is in and out of the team and seems to be a fringe player atm.
Does Brown have a spot when Waite is there?
Apparently he does
Think Aaron Black might be the one to struggle a bit.
Quote from: Grannyboy on October 09, 2014, 12:23:14 PM
Vancouver Give: S.Docherty + D.Rich + M.Golby + Nat 28
Hawaii Give: J.Lewis + Nat 33 + C.Moller + Nat 40
El Paso give: P.Dangerfield; B. Crouch; C. Shenton
Vancouver give: P. Hanley; S. Sidebottom; B. Brown
After some concern over these two trades raised by other coaches we are posting them for comment by other coaches. If you are involved in these trades please post reasons as to why you want the players/picks in question and why you are trading your players/picks.
Given this is a Dreamteam scoring game I would be happy with both trades as they are not too unbalanced though there a couple of slight reservations.
The first trade - due to Lewis' age I think Vancouver are giving up a little too much. I would take Nat 28 and Nat 40 off that deal from their respective sides and it would be fine.
The second trade at first glance is like oh my god he's giving up Dangerfield and Crouch - that's way to much as these guys are/will be gun players. However, in DT scoring terms Hanley and Sidebottom are just as good as those two and Ben Brown is more useful (as a fwd/ruc) than Shenton imo so that balances the trade.
I'd actually say this one is biased towards they guy getting Hanley if he stays a back (he's arguably close to the #1 premo back then if he improves again a little next year) and Danger loses fwd but, honestly I think both Danger and Hanley will be mid only next season (or if not the one after) so it's all good.
My thoughts on the second trade basically mirror what Memph has said. A lot hinges on dpp but the fact I think all will be mid only has it all square for mine.
Not going to go into much detail cos i have a throat infection and my brain hurts ;D
I don't have a big problem with the second trade (Danger, Hanley,Sidebum) but the first trade needs to be worked on imo
Quote from: elephants on October 09, 2014, 01:12:39 PM
Quote from: LF on October 09, 2014, 01:11:45 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on October 09, 2014, 01:11:11 PM
Quote from: LF on October 09, 2014, 01:08:21 PM
Quote from: Grannyboy on October 09, 2014, 12:23:14 PM
El Paso give: P.Dangerfield; B. Crouch; C. Shenton
Vancouver give: P. Hanley; S. Sidebottom; B. Brown
2014 Averages
Danger 92,Crouch 96,Shenton 52
Hanley 98,Sidey 108,Brown 57
Danger and Hanley likely to lose DPP,Shenton likely to be def and Brown likely a fwd only not sure if they have factored this in at all would be nice to know this from the coaches involved in the trade :)
If the proposed positional cchanges happen you have 2 mids with higher averages are being traded for 2 mids with lower averages that may or mat not boost their averages next year.Brown seems to have cemented a spot in the Roos best 22 where Shenton is in and out of the team and seems to be a fringe player atm.
Does Brown have a spot when Waite is there?
Apparently he does
Think Aaron Black might be the one to struggle a bit.
That's what everyone is thinking but on trade radio they have talked to North Listmanagers and Blacks agent and he signed a 4 year deal not long ago and was injured most of last year apparently. Just seems like to me they want to stick with him. But In my mind Brown is better anyway
My opinion on the first trade is pretty much the same as Memph
I can't remember Black practically winning them a final, on the colour scale Brown comes before Black.
Plus he looks like Sideshow Bob :o
Quote from: LF on October 09, 2014, 01:22:21 PM
My opinion on the first trade is pretty much the same as Memph
The fact that both trades involve Vancouver and they're both slightly in favour of the other team is a concern of mine. PM effectively loses 5 or so starting players and gains 3 or so starters depending on Brown in both trades. Also gives up better Nat draft pick than the 2 he gets back and I'm not convinced Moller will play regular football anytime soon if ever.
Trade 1 needs some work imo.
Quote from: Grannyboy on October 09, 2014, 01:30:02 PM
Quote from: LF on October 09, 2014, 01:22:21 PM
My opinion on the first trade is pretty much the same as Memph
The fact that both trades involve Vancouver and they're are both slightly in favour of the other team is a concern of mine. PM effectively loses 5 or so starting players and gains 3 or so starters depending on Brown in both trades. Also gives up better Nat draft pick than the 2 he gets back and I'm not convinced Moller will play regular football anytime soon if ever.
I'm of the opinion that trades should be looked at as they are, not dependant on other deals that are going on. I see where you're coming from though and I understand that its a big part of the admins job to keep the competition relatively even.
Quote from: Grannyboy on October 09, 2014, 01:23:39 PM
I can't remember Black practically winning them a final, on the colour scale Brown comes before Black.
Plus he looks like Sideshow Bob :o
ahah I agree with that
What the protocol now? Do we go to a vote or?
Quote from: elephants on October 09, 2014, 01:46:09 PM
What the protocol now? Do we go to a vote or?
Not sure
But probably need to hear from the rest of the coaches first I guess
Quote from: Grannyboy on October 09, 2014, 12:23:14 PM
Vancouver Give: S.Docherty + D.Rich + M.Golby + Nat 28
Hawaii Give: J.Lewis + Nat 33 + C.Moller + Nat 40
El Paso give: P.Dangerfield; B. Crouch; C. Shenton
Vancouver give: P. Hanley; S. Sidebottom; B. Brown
After some concern over these two trades raised by other coaches we are posting them for comment by other coaches. If you are involved in these trades please post reasons as to why you want the players/picks in question and why you are trading your players/picks.
Hey Guys
Have gone into this trade period with my eyes open. Dangerfield was my 1st round pick whose sole purpose was to be trade bait. A bonus selection that gave flexibility in negotiation. Sidey and Brown where key targets as I seriously rate both and give me strong interest in the team each week. Hanley a gun. He hasn't lost DPP yet and is a great structural fit in the team redevelopment. Crouch is ok...but I simply don't rate everyone in the same manner as others. Using Crouch gives me a trade offer that I thought was fair and even..
There has been a lot of other trade work involved in resetting El Paso this year. I have kept a big picture view in all trade dealings and the final washout I am very pleased with. I have manged to bring in players I am simply interested in having - eg; Cloke, Sidey; Bugg; Zorko; Greene and Brown - as well as a quite strong final line up. Check the final draft 1st 18 on the teams page. No trades were done in isolation. The DPP risks are just that but so is trying to pick a young gun who may fire next season or hoping someone will get a game. The worst that can happen?...too many mids but I am not on my own if that happens.
I hope this makes some sense.. ;D
Quote from: LF on October 09, 2014, 01:48:21 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 09, 2014, 01:46:09 PM
What the protocol now? Do we go to a vote or?
Not sure
But probably need to hear from the rest of the coaches first I guess
Wait for Pickerman first.
Quote from: picker_man on October 08, 2014, 08:23:20 PM
Quote from: T Dog on October 08, 2014, 08:05:54 PM
El Paso give: P.Dagerfield; B. Crouch; C. Shenton
Vancouver give: P. Hanley; S. Sidebottom; B. Brown
Pickerman to confirm
I'm a crows fan as if I don't want want Danger and a future gun!!
Confirmed :)
Pickers did mention a comment.
Quote from: T Dog on October 09, 2014, 02:11:46 PM
Quote from: picker_man on October 08, 2014, 08:23:20 PM
Quote from: T Dog on October 08, 2014, 08:05:54 PM
El Paso give: P.Dagerfield; B. Crouch; C. Shenton
Vancouver give: P. Hanley; S. Sidebottom; B. Brown
Pickerman to confirm
I'm a crows fan as if I don't want want Danger and a future gun!!
Confirmed :)
Pickers did mention a comment.
Thought this trade getting through wouldn't be a problem but ok here's my thoughts...
Danger IMO has a better chance of keeping DPP over Hanley, is one year younger, both will ave roughly the same but Danger plays for the team I follow......
I don't rate Sidebottom that's just my opinion but I think Crouch will be abserloute star plus he is 3 years younger then Sidebum hence why I was happy to give up Brown for shenton as I have plenty of Fwd back ups and last time I checked a 200cm key fwd isn't really goin to set the DT competition on fire, he might have the talent to be a good SC scorer but yeah doesn't interest me at all keeping him in DT
So we give what will prolly be 2mids each who IMO will ave roughly the same but my guys are a combined 4 yrs younger so that's why Brown was added to even it out....
Hope this makes sense :)
Quote from: picker_man on October 09, 2014, 03:57:54 PM
Quote from: T Dog on October 09, 2014, 02:11:46 PM
Quote from: picker_man on October 08, 2014, 08:23:20 PM
Quote from: T Dog on October 08, 2014, 08:05:54 PM
El Paso give: P.Dagerfield; B. Crouch; C. Shenton
Vancouver give: P. Hanley; S. Sidebottom; B. Brown
Pickerman to confirm
I'm a crows fan as if I don't want want Danger and a future gun!!
Confirmed :)
Pickers did mention a comment.
Thought this trade getting through wouldn't be a problem but ok here's my thoughts...
Danger IMO has a better chance of keeping DPP over Hanley, is one year younger, both will ave roughly the same but Danger plays for the team I follow......
I don't rate Sidebottom that's just my opinion but I think Crouch will be abserloute star plus he is 3 years younger then Sidebum hence why I was happy to give up Brown for shenton as I have plenty of Fwd back ups and last time I checked a 200cm key fwd isn't really goin to set the DT competition on fire, he might have the talent to be a good SC scorer but yeah doesn't interest me at all keeping him in DT
So we give what will prolly be 2mids each who IMO will ave roughly the same but my guys are a combined 4 yrs younger so that's why Brown was added to even it out....
Hope this makes sense :)
Think most people are happy with that one now ..its the other trade that needs work
Oh the Lewis one ok I'll chuck my reasoning for that trade up now ;)
S.Docherty + D.Rich + M.Golby + Nat 28
For
J.Lewis + Nat 33 + C.Moller + Nat 40
I needed a gun mid and with Lewis being a top 5 ave player I knew he wouldn't come cheap
First IMO rich is a DT spud will be 25 next year, coming off a seriouse injury and has never ave more then 85 as a mid.... Anyone thinking he would be a starter in my team is wrong so I more then happy to get pick 33 and put a new youngen in the team for him
Golby - at 23 he can only play 12 games in a Brisbane lions team who fielding young players.... That's a worry and is obviously not going to make my back line at an ave of 60, he would need a big turn around from this year to become relevant IMO, C.Moller is more then fair for him, I have lil ruck stocks so I wanted a young guy I RATE. He may not be a household name but it's rare when a 20 yr old ruck is, I have more faith Moller will make my team then Golby ever will
This is my chance 2 get rid of IMO 2guys that are spuds and bring in a young ruck I rate for the future and be able to pick someone young with picks 33 & 40 still & I'm going for the premiership so to add Lewis to midfield is huge!! He will play instead prolly Cooney or Mzungu so it's like a 25 points per game gain for me in the Mids and give me a 2nd captain option which I needed!! Yeah Docherty is a loss but I only drafted him cause I was talking trades with someone and they wanted the deal to include either Docherty or Brodie Smith they weren't getting Smith so I grabbed Docherty then the trade fell through cause I wanted a mid and they wouldn't give one up so I took the next best deal and I seriously have no problems with this trade and am more then happy with it and I believe Ele was too, he rates Rich and Golby and obviously some others do but I certainly don't so I don't want em lol
Haha wow, after reading Pickers reasoning I feel like I'm getting ripped :( hahaha
lol after reading that properly i don't mind it as much ..see what others think :)
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 09, 2014, 05:49:56 PM
lol after reading that properly i don't mind it as much ..see what others think :)
I maintain my original stance on this one which is I'm happy for it to pass but I still think it's slightly to much to give for Lewis who's 28 and a guy who hasn't even looked like getting a game for Freo.
Take out Nat 28 and 40 and the trade is a draw. Keep them in and no-one really loses as they are getting players they need but there is a winner of the trade in my opinion.
Looking at just the numbers I think PM is overpaying, especially when you throw in the 12 place pick upgrade?
I think you could argue that Docherty + Rich for Lewis and N33 is close to even, maybe, but add the rest on and it stacks it clearly in Ele favour.
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 09, 2014, 06:07:44 PM
Looking at just the numbers I think PM is overpaying, especially when you throw in the 12 place pick upgrade?
I think you could argue that Docherty + Rich for Lewis and N33 is close to even, maybe, but add the rest on and it stacks it clearly in Ele favour.
Lewis is elite. He's a top 5 midfielder. I'm not giving him + middle range pick up for a midfielder coming off a serious injury who probably won't ever be elite in DT and a young defender who still is quite unproven at AFL level despite putting together a solid season.
Golby isn't even best 22 at the Lions so no idea why everyone is up in arms about him.
Don't want to have to do this but its the only trade in question at the moment
Ele, Picker ... Looks like your going to have to change the trade a little to get it done. Have had some messages and posts regarding the fact that the trade is a little unfair.
Well this has put me in a pretty awkward position...
Quote from: elephants on October 09, 2014, 06:40:37 PM
Well this has put me in a pretty awkward position...
I understand ele and this is the shower part about being a mod. If you guys could just tweak it a little it would help, then we can move on :)
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 09, 2014, 06:47:30 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 09, 2014, 06:40:37 PM
Well this has put me in a pretty awkward position...
I understand ele and this is the shower part about being a mod. If you guys could just tweak it a little it would help, then we can move on :)
Probably best to say how they need to tweak it mate - who needs to give more/less etc
Well according to the coaches Ele needs to give more or Picker needs to give less .. up to them how they get the trade done.
Yeah all good FF, understand completely. I have no beef with anyone here about the trade ruling.
My situation is, I was only just convinced into the trade by pickers when he threw in the pick upgrade. Otherwise I was more than happy to keep 110+ JL to bolster my midfield scoring power.
If I have to give up more/get less, my inclination to go this deal drops off severely. I was only just happy with this trade and actually surprised that people had issues.
Have a talk to Pickers see what you can do mate :)
I want to approve all other trades if everyone is cool with that ?
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 09, 2014, 06:57:36 PM
Have a talk to Pickers see what you can do mate :)
Will do mate!
First trade for us
Roswell Aliens give: Dale Thomas + Rook Pick 13 + Nat 36
El Paso Give: Ryan Harwood + Rook Pick 11 + Nat 14
Tdog to confirm
Quote from: LF on October 09, 2014, 07:29:06 PM
First trade for us
Roswell Aliens give: Dale Thomas + Rook Pick 13 + Nat 36
El Paso Give: Ryan Harwood + Rook Pick 11 + Nat 14
Tdog to confirm
El Paso confirms. Very keen on Daisy. Potential DPP very useful for the Alpacas . Have other backs.
Seems really rediculouse something as small as dropping pick Nat 28 off and pick 40 it was your asking for it to pass, like anyone seriously think I'll get some great player at 28 and 40 will just give me a spud... Ah no it will both be spuds it's as I said seems rediculouse something so small can stop a trade ::)
Anywayz we'll see if we can worth somethin out prolly not but so cancel the trade then FF ;) ::) :'(
Cant help but think people think im a prick now ...ahhh the joys of being a mod ???
Quote from: Memphistopheles on October 09, 2014, 06:50:17 PM
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 09, 2014, 06:47:30 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 09, 2014, 06:40:37 PM
Well this has put me in a pretty awkward position...
I understand ele and this is the shower part about being a mod. If you guys could just tweak it a little it would help, then we can move on :)
Probably best to say how they need to tweak it mate - who needs to give more/less etc
We try not to take players potential into account with trades when we judge them, just what the player has already done in DT. Moller may go on to set the world on fire but what we see in this trade is 3 younger players who if fit will play 50+ games a year for 1 older player who will play 20+ and also a downgrade in Nat picks, that's the main reason we blocked it.
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 09, 2014, 08:48:55 PM
Cant help but think people think im a prick now ...ahhh the joys of being a mod ???
You mean you're not? :P Cool you can be the good cop from now on ;D 8)
FF says: I'm just saying give it a tweak cos if Grannyboy gets on and sees that trade he gonna tear shreds off you, I've seen him do it, don't make him angry! >:(
Nah not at all FF ;) I have never liked the idea of other coaches being able to be involved in other teams trades.... Should be worried about there team and there trades not what MY plans are for my team....
Anywayz as I said In a PM respect your decision and GBs FF so can move on and chuck these guys back up for trade.... Sounds like I should get Rocky in return since there so highly rated though ;D
All good I hate trade period because of things like this
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 09, 2014, 08:48:55 PM
Cant help but think people think im a prick now ...ahhh the joys of being a mod ???
Nah man not at all. No angst either, sure you weren't the only one to have concerns about our trade.
Might chat to Pickers tomorrow but it looks like hes keen to can it all together which is unfortunate. Scared he was going to think I was being a prick about it if I pushed to can, but now he is so it might turn out ok lol :(
Quote from: elephants on October 10, 2014, 03:59:38 AM
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 09, 2014, 08:48:55 PM
Cant help but think people think im a prick now ...ahhh the joys of being a mod ???
Nah man not at all. No angst either, sure you weren't the only one to have concerns about our trade.
Might chat to Pickers tomorrow but it looks like hes keen to can it all together which is unfortunate. Scared he was going to think I was being a prick about it if I pushed to can, but now he is so it might turn out ok lol :(
Hope so, i think its not far off getting through it would be a shame to just can it if you were both keen on getting it done.
Quote from: LF on October 09, 2014, 07:29:06 PM
First trade for us
Roswell Aliens give: Dale Thomas + Rook Pick 13 + Nat 36
El Paso Give: Ryan Harwood + Rook Pick 11 + Nat 14
Tdog to confirm
I have concerns with this one now. It all seems even with the first 2 parts and then the last swap of picks throws it right out in my eyes. Harwood is 4 years younger and last season averaged almost the same in a harder scoring position, the 2nd part barely matters but the third; a 22 place upgrade when we only have 48 picks in the draft is huge.
Daisy will be F/M and worth more then Harwood who has not even cemented his spot yet the rookie pick upgrade worth pretty much nothing the NAT upgrade evens it out
Quote from: Grannyboy on October 10, 2014, 09:10:46 PM
Quote from: LF on October 09, 2014, 07:29:06 PM
First trade for us
Roswell Aliens give: Dale Thomas + Rook Pick 13 + Nat 36
El Paso Give: Ryan Harwood + Rook Pick 11 + Nat 14
Tdog to confirm
I have concerns with this one now. It all seems even with the first 2 parts and then the last swap of picks throws it right out in my eyes. Harwood is 4 years younger and last season averaged almost the same in a harder scoring position, the 2nd part barely matters but the third; a 22 place upgrade when we only have 48 picks in the draft is huge.
Thomas highly likely get DPP that is why we feel he is of more value than a straight up defender
We don`t need Thomas due to the amount of mids we have and we can`t fit him on field in the forward line either or as a utility he is of no use to us really.
Harwood however will be since we will likely lose Smitch and Burgoyne in defence and maybe Carlisle then Enright is obviously not far off leaving as well we need a defender that can take over so we can field a half decent defence.
Yeah we discussed it and with the impending dpp that we all think he will get it evens it up a fair bit. I still think it's in your favour LF but the fact TDog has already posted how keen he is on him, we will now post it in the trade list.
Hey guys
My key here is getting Daisy. Don't need Harwood.
Trade picks who may or may not get games next year and the who knows how whoever your pick will go just doesn't rate with me.
Plenty of coaches have picks on offer and I will trade accordingly..but unless I can be guaranteed Petracca..speculative picks are just that to me. Daisy the key for me in this transaction. I rate him as an improver this season. Nat pick 14 is nowhere in the scheme of things.
Hope this makes sense.. ;D
FOOTBALL FACTORY (Arizona) gives:
Ashby and Rookie Pick 7
For
Grannyboy (Springfield) gives:
J.Holmes and Rookie Pick 1
I need backs and I think if Hibberd goes asada style this guy will step in and plays his role of half back. I have a plethora of young rucks and this is my only rookie listed player from last year, he's about 7th in line for 1 position on the field in my team. I doubt if I will ever play him.
Confirm
Im keen on getting first pick in the rookie draft, i offered a range of players and Grannyboy wanted Ashby plus rookie pick 7 as his next pick is last pick. I picked from his worst players offered to even it up.
We cant rule on this trade so its up to the coaches to.
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 10, 2014, 09:51:12 PM
We cant rule on this trade so its up to the coaches to.
How does it work?
Via pm or just post thoughts here?
Quote from: LF on October 10, 2014, 09:52:23 PM
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 10, 2014, 09:51:12 PM
We cant rule on this trade so its up to the coaches to.
How does it work?
Via pm or just post thoughts here?
I think everyone should just post on here, no probs with that.
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 10, 2014, 09:53:30 PM
Quote from: LF on October 10, 2014, 09:52:23 PM
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 10, 2014, 09:51:12 PM
We cant rule on this trade so its up to the coaches to.
How does it work?
Via pm or just post thoughts here?
I think everyone should just post on here, no probs with that.
ok cool
All good from me.for what it's worth thought LF and Tdogs trade was all good 2 8)
Quote from: picker_man on October 10, 2014, 09:55:05 PM
All good from me.for what it's worth thought LF and Tdogs trade was all good 2 8)
I guess that's why its a good idea to post why its a fair trade, helps others understand the trade more.
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 10, 2014, 09:57:43 PM
Quote from: picker_man on October 10, 2014, 09:55:05 PM
All good from me.for what it's worth thought LF and Tdogs trade was all good 2 8)
I guess that's why its a good idea to post why its a fair trade, helps others understand the trade more.
Nah I didn't even read that :P I would pass prolly every trade lol
Quote from: picker_man on October 10, 2014, 10:03:29 PM
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 10, 2014, 09:57:43 PM
Quote from: picker_man on October 10, 2014, 09:55:05 PM
All good from me.for what it's worth thought LF and Tdogs trade was all good 2 8)
I guess that's why its a good idea to post why its a fair trade, helps others understand the trade more.
Nah I didn't even read that :P I would pass prolly every trade lol
I would like to pass every trade ;D its a nasty business trading sometimes :o
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 10, 2014, 10:06:47 PM
Quote from: picker_man on October 10, 2014, 10:03:29 PM
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 10, 2014, 09:57:43 PM
Quote from: picker_man on October 10, 2014, 09:55:05 PM
All good from me.for what it's worth thought LF and Tdogs trade was all good 2 8)
I guess that's why its a good idea to post why its a fair trade, helps others understand the trade more.
Nah I didn't even read that :P I would pass prolly every trade lol
I would like to pass every trade ;D its a nasty business trading sometimes :o
Haha yeah I could imagine, this is exactly why I would never be allowed lol or want to be the Administrator wouldn't be fun having people like me whinge at ya's when there trade don't go through haha ;D
New trade deal.
Vancouver Give: S.Docherty + D.Rich + Nat 28
Calgary Give: J.Bartel + J.Viney + N.Blee
Needed another good fwd. So with Bartel more then likely being one I'm thinking I can get a good 2 yrs out of him still to fill that role. and with being short a mid also Viney is someone who should have a big impact at the Titans for years to come.
RGriff to confirm
Obviously me and Pickers mutually decided to can our deal. But watch this space, thing could be happening in the near future ;)
Quote from: picker_man on October 10, 2014, 10:41:51 PM
New trade deal.
Vancouver Give: S.Docherty + D.Rich + Nat 28
Calgary Give: J.Bartel + J.Viney + N.Blee
Needed another good fwd. So with Bartel more then likely being one I'm thinking I can get a good 2 yrs out of him still to fill that role. and with being short a mid also Viney is someone who should have a big impact at the Titans for years to come.
RGriff to confirm
Confirm
Don't think Viney is ever going to be a huge scorer and needed some youth in my back line from McVeigh, Bartel, Mackie, Johnson
Quote from: elephants on October 10, 2014, 10:43:34 PM
Obviously me and Pickers mutually decided to can our deal. But watch this space, thing could be happening in the near future ;)
Oh yeah sorry forgot to mention that we got that sorted
Quote from: R.Griffen on October 10, 2014, 10:45:11 PM
Quote from: picker_man on October 10, 2014, 10:41:51 PM
New trade deal.
Vancouver Give: S.Docherty + D.Rich + Nat 28
Calgary Give: J.Bartel + J.Viney + N.Blee
Needed another good fwd. So with Bartel more then likely being one I'm thinking I can get a good 2 yrs out of him still to fill that role. and with being short a mid also Viney is someone who should have a big impact at the Titans for years to come.
RGriff to confirm
Confirm
Don't think Viney is ever going to be a huge scorer and needed some youth in my back line from McVeigh, Bartel, Mackie, Johnson
Yeah Memph kindly did a write up on Viney for me cause I really wasn't sure on him, and he did say the same where he doesn't think Viney will be a huge DT scorer so hope people don't take that into account when assessing the trade cause I know ;) I'm looking at him more off a solid 95-100 scorer hopefully for years to come
Quote from: Grannyboy on October 10, 2014, 09:44:39 PM
FOOTBALL FACTORY (Arizona) gives:
Ashby and Rookie Pick 7
For
Grannyboy (Springfield) gives:
J.Holmes and Rookie Pick 1
I need backs and I think if Hibberd goes asada style this guy will step in and plays his role of half back. I have a plethora of young rucks and this is my only rookie listed player from last year, he's about 7th in line for 1 position on the field in my team. I doubt if I will ever play him.
Happy with this one.
Ashby appears to be a whole lot closer to his sides best 22 than Holmes, especially when you consider pending ASADA movements at Bomberland. The upgrade is significant given the strength of the draft but its offset by the difference in each players fantasy prospects.
If anyone had any major issue with this trade, please speak now or forever hold your peace!
Quote from: picker_man on October 10, 2014, 10:41:51 PM
New trade deal.
Vancouver Give: S.Docherty + D.Rich + Nat 28
Calgary Give: J.Bartel + J.Viney + N.Blee
Needed another good fwd. So with Bartel more then likely being one I'm thinking I can get a good 2 yrs out of him still to fill that role. and with being short a mid also Viney is someone who should have a big impact at the Titans for years to come.
RGriff to confirm
We have problems with this trade. Nathan Blee is playing for East Perth and is not an AFL listed player. If R.Griff wants to replace him with another player we will have another look at the trade after.
Quote from: Grannyboy on October 11, 2014, 12:03:39 AM
Quote from: picker_man on October 10, 2014, 10:41:51 PM
New trade deal.
Vancouver Give: S.Docherty + D.Rich + Nat 28
Calgary Give: J.Bartel + J.Viney + N.Blee
Needed another good fwd. So with Bartel more then likely being one I'm thinking I can get a good 2 yrs out of him still to fill that role. and with being short a mid also Viney is someone who should have a big impact at the Titans for years to come.
RGriff to confirm
We have problems with this trade. Nathan Blee is playing for East Perth and is not an AFL listed player. If R.Griff wants to replace him with another player we will have another look at the trade after.
Getting done now we are onto it. I assumed since he was a top draft pick he might have got more time
Quote from: Grannyboy on October 11, 2014, 12:03:39 AM
Quote from: picker_man on October 10, 2014, 10:41:51 PM
New trade deal.
Vancouver Give: S.Docherty + D.Rich + Nat 28
Calgary Give: J.Bartel + J.Viney + N.Blee
Needed another good fwd. So with Bartel more then likely being one I'm thinking I can get a good 2 yrs out of him still to fill that role. and with being short a mid also Viney is someone who should have a big impact at the Titans for years to come.
RGriff to confirm
We have problems with this trade. Nathan Blee is playing for East Perth and is not an AFL listed player. If R.Griff wants to replace him with another player we will have another look at the trade after.
Yeah whoops we'll change for Aiden Corr thanks GB 8)
He's obviously one who slipped through the last delist. There's a couple now we've seen still on lists that aren't playing AFL. I blame nrich ::) when in doubt fall back on that. Hopefully we don't see anymore but I would encourage everyone to check all players involved in a trade on their respective clubs website.
Quote from: Grannyboy on October 11, 2014, 12:19:57 AM
He's obviously one who slipped through the last delist. There's a couple now we've seen still on lists that aren't playing AFL. I blame nrich ::) when in doubt fall back on that. Hopefully we don't see anymore but I would encourage everyone to check all players involved in a trade on their respective clubs website.
ahah I even made an effort just to make sure he wasn't delisted this year as I found out he wasn't aha just happen to not even be playing afl aha
Hawaii Give: R.Bail + N33
Vancouver Give: M.Golby + S.Tatupu
Pickers to confirm.
Quote from: elephants on October 11, 2014, 01:28:07 AM
Hawaii Give: R.Bail + N33
Vancouver Give: M.Golby + S.Tatupu
Pickers to confirm.
Confirmed.
Hawaii Give: N39 + N40
Calgary Give: Brent Moloney Compensation Pick + Tom Williams Compensation Pick
RG to confirm
Quote from: elephants on October 11, 2014, 07:09:08 PM
Hawaii Give: N39 + N40
Calgary Give: Brent Moloney Compensation Pick + Tom Williams Compensation Pick
RG to confirm
Trading Rules: - All trades must balance (ie. be 1-1 or 2-2 etc..)
- National and Rookie draft picks can be traded.
- There is
no limit on movements.
- Teams will not be allowed to trade players that are named on the AFL website as Retired/Delisted unless allowed by admin ( the reason for allowing this might be be that an AFL club has agreed to re-draft this player)
- All trades will be ruled on by Grannyboy and Football Factory. Trades involving one of our own teams will see the coach involved excluded from the process in order to avoid a conflict of interest.
- If 4 or more coaches appeal a trade, a trade can be reviewed and a decision
may be over-turned.
- Please save all comments regarding a trade for after both parties have publicly stated their confirmation.
Sorry retired/delisted players are not allowed to be traded
But they are trading the compo pick not the actual player
Quote from: LF on October 11, 2014, 07:43:38 PM
But they are trading the compo pick not the actual player
^
Quote from: LF on October 11, 2014, 07:43:38 PM
But they are trading the compo pick not the actual player
Want to trade a few yours westy? Can negotiate.. ;D
I have said from the beginning that Delsited and retired players will not be allowed to be traded this includes the compo picks.
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 11, 2014, 07:51:01 PM
I have said from the beginning that Delsited and retired players will not be allowed to be traded this includes the compo picks.
I get that trading of retired players is not allowed but trading the compo picks confuses me. They can do it in the AFL? Oh well, no dramas.
Its pretty obvious why people want to trade for compo picks, there's a larger pool of good AFL ready players in the Rookie draft mainly because of the recycle draft leftovers and the undrafted players of previous years. The Rookie draft will probably have the equivalent of 3 rounds worth of players being picked as opposed to the Nat drafts 4 rounds. imo these picks are worth more than 3rd 4th round Nat picks. These compo picks for retirements are a one off thing to keep teams even, i don't want people trading them.
If people are duly compensated for losing these picks in trades though, I don't see the issue. If course though, you're the boss!
Quote from: elephants on October 11, 2014, 08:16:04 PM
If people are duly compensated for losing these picks in trades though, I don't see the issue. If course though, you're the boss!
You offered your last 2 picks in the Nat, how is that compensation.
Its easier not to allow trades of compo picks.
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 11, 2014, 08:24:04 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 11, 2014, 08:16:04 PM
If people are duly compensated for losing these picks in trades though, I don't see the issue. If course though, you're the boss!
You offered your last 2 picks in the Nat, how is that compensation.
Its easier not to allow trades of compo picks.
Haha he made the offer mate, I'm willing to bump up if needed. Not that it matters.
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 11, 2014, 08:12:28 PM
Its pretty obvious why people want to trade for compo picks, there's a larger pool of good AFL ready players in the Rookie draft mainly because of the recycle draft leftovers and the undrafted players of previous years. The Rookie draft will probably have the equivalent of 3 rounds worth of players being picked as opposed to the Nat drafts 4 rounds. imo these picks are worth more than 3rd 4th round Nat picks. These compo picks for retirements are a one off thing to keep teams even, i don't want people trading them.
I need youth. Nat picks give me youth
Quote from: R.Griffen on October 11, 2014, 09:04:16 PM
I need youth. Nat picks give me youth
Throw me something then, Griff.
Calgary gives Adam Oxley + Nick Holman + Rookie Pick 10
El Paso gives Nat Pick 35 + Nat Pick 36 + Nat Pick 37
TDog to confirm
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 11, 2014, 07:51:01 PM
I have said from the beginning that Delsited and retired players will not be allowed to be traded this includes the compo picks.
This was why I wanted the recycled pool in the national draft too, so the rookie draft wasn't overloaded and those picks weren't weighted against every other season. I therefore don't think those picks should be traded either.
Quote from: elephants on October 11, 2014, 07:09:08 PM
Hawaii Give: N39 + N40
Calgary Give: Brent Moloney Compensation Pick + Tom Williams Compensation Pick
RG to confirm
Quote from: LF on October 11, 2014, 07:43:38 PM
But they are trading the compo pick not the actual player
If we had the leftovers in the National draft and they were available to everyone filtering down through 6 picks we may have considered allowing trading of compo picks. As the leftover pool was added solely to the Rookie Draft no trading of compensation picks will be allowed.
Quote from: R.Griffen on October 11, 2014, 11:22:27 PM
Calgary gives Adam Oxley + Nick Holman + Rookie Pick 10
El Paso gives Nat Pick 35 + Nat Pick 36 + Nat Pick 37
TDog to confirm
t dog confirms. El paso has no interest in late nat draft picks this year. Recycled players in Rd will do nicely.
Dallas gets: Lewis + Rookie Pick 9
Hawaii gets: Heppell + Ballard?
elephants to confirm.
Quote from: Atto on October 12, 2014, 10:21:36 AM
Dallas gets: Lewis + Rookie Pick 9
Hawaii gets: Heppell + Ballard?
elephants to confirm.
Confirmed. Despite averaging less, in Heppell I acquire one of the young future elites of the game, the only Bombers player I can stand. It did cost me a good rookie pick to compensate Atto for the large age differential. Job done, thanks mate.
Just so I don't have to look, whats Ballards first name ?
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 12, 2014, 12:07:39 PM
Just so I don't have to look, whats Ballards first name ?
Jacob
Thanks :)
Just so everyone knows Grannyboy and I have decided not to go through with our trade.
Quote from: T Dog on October 12, 2014, 05:13:27 AM
Quote from: R.Griffen on October 11, 2014, 11:22:27 PM
Calgary gives Adam Oxley + Nick Holman + Rookie Pick 10
El Paso gives Nat Pick 35 + Nat Pick 36 + Nat Pick 37
TDog to confirm
t dog confirms. El paso has no interest in late nat draft picks this year. Recycled players in Rd will do nicely.
sorry it's meant to be pick 38 not 37 but I assume that doesnt change the decision
Quote from: R.Griffen on October 12, 2014, 01:19:30 PM
Quote from: T Dog on October 12, 2014, 05:13:27 AM
Quote from: R.Griffen on October 11, 2014, 11:22:27 PM
Calgary gives Adam Oxley + Nick Holman + Rookie Pick 10
El Paso gives Nat Pick 35 + Nat Pick 36 + Nat Pick 37
TDog to confirm
t dog confirms. El paso has no interest in late nat draft picks this year. Recycled players in Rd will do nicely.
sorry it's meant to be pick 38 not 37 but I assume that doesnt change the decision
All good man..I didn't have 37..just 38 :)
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 12, 2014, 12:13:45 PM
Thanks :)
Just so everyone knows Grannyboy and I have decided not to go through with our trade.
:( after I ruled on it and everything :P
Quote from: elephants on October 12, 2014, 01:34:00 PM
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 12, 2014, 12:13:45 PM
Thanks :)
Just so everyone knows Grannyboy and I have decided not to go through with our trade.
:( after I ruled on it and everything :P
Yeah sorry to waste your time.
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 12, 2014, 02:03:16 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 12, 2014, 01:34:00 PM
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 12, 2014, 12:13:45 PM
Thanks :)
Just so everyone knows Grannyboy and I have decided not to go through with our trade.
:( after I ruled on it and everything :P
Yeah sorry to waste your time.
No no mate all good!
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 12, 2014, 12:13:45 PM
Thanks :)
Just so everyone knows Grannyboy and I have decided not to go through with our trade.
Um confirmed. I dont mind either way. I could work w pick 1 or 7 n Ashby.
T Dogs "El Paso" and Pickermans "Vancouver Titans" have negotiated some key player movement.
El Paso gives : L.Shuey + J.Lyons + Nat Draft pick 16
Vancouver gives: J.Bartel +L. Dunstan + Rookie Draft pick 4
El Paso a big wrap for Bartel as you know from SC trades, Dunstan a really valuable young gun keeper and RD pick 4 is ideal in our recruitment strategy this year. Shuey can be done without as the DPP uncertainty in El Paso needs cover. The RD pick is valued highly as part of the players still coming into the team with good young picks at RD #4; #10; #13; #14.
Pickerman to confirm
Quote from: T Dog on October 13, 2014, 07:38:39 PM
T Dogs "El Paso" and Pickermans "Vancouver Titans" have negotiated some key player movement.
El Paso gives : L.Shuey + J.Lyons + Nat Draft pick 16
Vancouver gives: J.Bartel +L. Dunstan + Rookie Draft pick 4
El Paso a big wrap for Bartel as you know from SC trades, Dunstan a really valuable young gun keeper and RD pick 4 is ideal in our recruitment strategy this year. Shuey can be done without as the DPP uncertainty in El Paso needs cover. The RD pick is valued highly as part of the players still coming into the team with good young picks at #4; #10; #13; #14.
Pickerman to confirm
Confirmed :) Is a big trade for our club also as we really needed to get in another solid midfielder and think Shuey could be ready for a big year next year, and whilst I think Dunstan has a big future ahead of him aswell he isn't ready to fill the M4 position we needed to fill if were a chance at the flag in the next few years like Shuey is. Losing Bartel hurts my Fwds a lot but I had to take his age into consideration and the fact that I think Lyons will get a whole lot more chances under a new coach or with a new club next year he also has the talent to be a solid DT scorer.
Trade between Vancouver Titans & Calgary Fireflies
Titans Give: Nat 33 + Nat 45
Fireflies Give: Nat 28 + Cameron Ellis-Yolmen
CEY might get a go under a new coach :-\
R.Griff to confirm
Quote from: picker_man on October 13, 2014, 10:09:30 PM
Trade between Vancouver Titans & Calgary Fireflies
Titans Give: Nat 33 + Nat 45
Fireflies Give: Nat 28 + Cameron Ellis-Yolmen
CEY might get a go under a new coach :-\
R.Griff to confirm
Confirm
I feel like I need some Nat picks since I am running a bit low in that part of my team ;)
Quote from: elephants on October 10, 2014, 11:24:59 PM
Quote from: Grannyboy on October 10, 2014, 09:44:39 PM
FOOTBALL FACTORY (Arizona) gives:
Ashby and Rookie Pick 7
For
Grannyboy (Springfield) gives:
J.Holmes and Rookie Pick 1
I need backs and I think if Hibberd goes asada style this guy will step in and plays his role of half back. I have a plethora of young rucks and this is my only rookie listed player from last year, he's about 7th in line for 1 position on the field in my team. I doubt if I will ever play him.
Happy with this one.
Ashby appears to be a whole lot closer to his sides best 22 than Holmes, especially when you consider pending ASADA movements at Bomberland. The upgrade is significant given the strength of the draft but its offset by the difference in each players fantasy prospects.
If anyone had any major issue with this trade, please speak now or forever hold your peace!
I'm not so sure on this trade an I am am surprised no-one else has flagged any potential issues.
Rookie Pick 1 is worth substantially more than rookie pick 7 in my opinion given the quality of players on offer this season due to the recycle draft and Ashby has hardly played at all/shown anything for the Bombers
Pick 1 could be a Rosa, Harry L, Wells, J Merrett, Fasolo type - I can probably see a clear Top 5-6 whereas it drops off a tad after that.
Holmes also has come on quite well in the Saints reserves (the best of the American recruits if reports are anything to go by) so while Ashby maybe slightly ahead of him football wise I'm not so sure about in terms of potential DT value (rucks are rarer).
I also don't think trading based on the fact Hibberd may get a six month ban can be factored in. Especially as this is a keeper/dynasty style league and what if Ashby goes back to the scrapheap when Hibberd returns?
Hey Memph..trade was withdrawn
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 12, 2014, 12:13:45 PM
Thanks :)
Just so everyone knows Grannyboy and I have decided not to go through with our trade.
Quote from: Memphistopheles on October 14, 2014, 12:37:45 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 10, 2014, 11:24:59 PM
Quote from: Grannyboy on October 10, 2014, 09:44:39 PM
FOOTBALL FACTORY (Arizona) gives:
Ashby and Rookie Pick 7
For
Grannyboy (Springfield) gives:
J.Holmes and Rookie Pick 1
I need backs and I think if Hibberd goes asada style this guy will step in and plays his role of half back. I have a plethora of young rucks and this is my only rookie listed player from last year, he's about 7th in line for 1 position on the field in my team. I doubt if I will ever play him.
Happy with this one.
Ashby appears to be a whole lot closer to his sides best 22 than Holmes, especially when you consider pending ASADA movements at Bomberland. The upgrade is significant given the strength of the draft but its offset by the difference in each players fantasy prospects.
If anyone had any major issue with this trade, please speak now or forever hold your peace!
I'm not so sure on this trade an I am am surprised no-one else has flagged any potential issues.
Rookie Pick 1 is worth substantially more than rookie pick 7 in my opinion given the quality of players on offer this season due to the recycle draft and Ashby has hardly played at all/shown anything for the Bombers
Pick 1 could be a Rosa, Harry L, Wells, J Merrett, Fasolo type - I can probably see a clear Top 5-6 whereas it drops off a tad after that.
Holmes also has come on quite well in the Saints reserves (the best of the American recruits if reports are anything to go by) so while Ashby maybe slightly ahead of him football wise I'm not so sure about in terms of potential DT value (rucks are rarer).
I also don't think trading based on the fact Hibberd may get a six month ban can be factored in. Especially as this is a keeper/dynasty style league and what if Ashby goes back to the scrapheap when Hibberd returns?
You've got to factor in that there will be 3-4 Nat draft sliders and mature age recruits that are highly rated fantasy prospects. Examples off the top of my head; Templeton, Horsley, Laird, Shenton and Colquhoun. I'd say the number of viable rookie picks in the draft is closer to 10-12.
Holmes is promising, but the fact is he is currently behind Hickey and Longer in the ruck depo (and possibly Stanley as a pinch-hitter) plus, he's older than them all (being 25 next season). Maybe as a key forward one day, but it seems unlikely given he's played a majority of his VFL footy as a ruckman. The number of times he got less than 5 touches in the VFL/development league this season is also a concern :P
And although, I agree to an extent, you can't look at the ASADA bans too much, it'd be nonsensical to discount them completely. I agree though that they shouldn't be a decisive factor. Ashby (five years younger than Holmes) regularly had 20+ possessions down back for the Bombers VFL side, good prospect imo.
Overall, whilst I agree there is a difference between rookie 1 and rookie 7, there is enough quality at rookie 7 for Ashby/Holmes swap to compensate for the pick downgrade.
I've also heard that Holmes is the best developing American project player... Although, that's not saying much :P
I'll keep pick 1 and Holmes, surely that should mean I get Watson too, he follows him everywhere ;D
I was waiting for TDog to write it up but meh, we have come up with this trade:
El Paso gives: Tom Boyd
Isotopes give: Mark Hutchings.
TDog to confirm.
Oh yeah the reasons. I'm looking to the future in my forward line and picked up Prestia and Brad Hill in the recycled draft, so I can do without Hutchings. Also have 3 starting Weagles in the mids so if they go bad I go bad, trying to spread it around a bit.
Quote from: Grannyboy on October 14, 2014, 01:33:21 PM
I was waiting for TDog to write it up but meh, we have come up with this trade:
El Paso gives: Tom Boyd
Isotopes give: Mark Hutchings.
TDog to confirm.
T Dog confirms. Both big trades but a young gun mid suits El Paso's older mix balance more than a fwd.
Quote from: Grannyboy on October 14, 2014, 01:33:21 PM
Also have 3 starting Weagles in the mids so if they go bad I go bad, trying to spread it around a bit.
No danger of that ;)
Hawaii Give: Nat 39 & Nat 40
Calgary Give: Trent Dumont & Kieran Harper
R.Griff to confirm.
Quote from: elephants on October 14, 2014, 04:14:40 PM
Hawaii Give: Nat 39 & Nat 40
Calgary Give: Trent Dumont & Kieran Harper
R.Griff to confirm.
Confirm
Im happy to confirm these trades Griff but its getting beyond a joke, its like some kind of strange addiction to want as many Nat picks as possible. I have concerns that the fabric of your team is weakened severly by the fact that 70% of your team will only just be able to drink alchohol let alone play senior football for an AFL club.
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 14, 2014, 05:37:22 PM
Im happy to confirm these trades Griff but its getting beyond a joke, its like some kind of strange addiction to want as many Nat picks as possible. I have concerns that the fabric of your team is weakened severly by the fact that 70% of your team will only just be able to drink alchohol let alone play senior football for an AFL club.
I have traded 2 guys Gray and Bartel which I didn't have to start with anyway. I gained Buddy and Boomer I am sure they are both better than Gray also got Docuerty to replace Bartel I don't see the problem
Quote from: R.Griffen on October 14, 2014, 05:48:49 PM
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 14, 2014, 05:37:22 PM
Im happy to confirm these trades Griff but its getting beyond a joke, its like some kind of strange addiction to want as many Nat picks as possible. I have concerns that the fabric of your team is weakened severly by the fact that 70% of your team will only just be able to drink alchohol let alone play senior football for an AFL club.
I have traded 2 guys Gray and Bartel which I didn't have to start with anyway. I gained Buddy and Boomer I am sure they are both better than Gray also got Docuerty to replace Bartel I don't see the problem
No you don't do you, like I said im happy to confirm them I just dont want you to trade your whole team for Nat picks that's all :)
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 14, 2014, 05:59:56 PM
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Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 14, 2014, 05:37:22 PM
Im happy to confirm these trades Griff but its getting beyond a joke, its like some kind of strange addiction to want as many Nat picks as possible. I have concerns that the fabric of your team is weakened severly by the fact that 70% of your team will only just be able to drink alchohol let alone play senior football for an AFL club.
I have traded 2 guys Gray and Bartel which I didn't have to start with anyway. I gained Buddy and Boomer I am sure they are both better than Gray also got Docuerty to replace Bartel I don't see the problem
No you don't do you, like I said im happy to confirm them I just dont want you to trade your whole team for Nat picks that's all :)
I haven't sold rocky and he's my whole team so I'm fine atm
Should only have maybe 1 more like this coming. Then I better make sure my research is correct
Quote from: R.Griffen on October 14, 2014, 06:04:38 PM
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Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 14, 2014, 05:37:22 PM
Im happy to confirm these trades Griff but its getting beyond a joke, its like some kind of strange addiction to want as many Nat picks as possible. I have concerns that the fabric of your team is weakened severly by the fact that 70% of your team will only just be able to drink alchohol let alone play senior football for an AFL club.
I have traded 2 guys Gray and Bartel which I didn't have to start with anyway. I gained Buddy and Boomer I am sure they are both better than Gray also got Docuerty to replace Bartel I don't see the problem
No you don't do you, like I said im happy to confirm them I just dont want you to trade your whole team for Nat picks that's all :)
I haven't sold rocky and he's my whole team so I'm fine atm
Should only have maybe 1 more like this coming. Then I better make sure my research is correct
I wonder if he will be as prolific next year with Redden coming back from injury and Dayne Beams ? joining the club ?
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Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 14, 2014, 05:37:22 PM
Im happy to confirm these trades Griff but its getting beyond a joke, its like some kind of strange addiction to want as many Nat picks as possible. I have concerns that the fabric of your team is weakened severly by the fact that 70% of your team will only just be able to drink alchohol let alone play senior football for an AFL club.
I have traded 2 guys Gray and Bartel which I didn't have to start with anyway. I gained Buddy and Boomer I am sure they are both better than Gray also got Docuerty to replace Bartel I don't see the problem
No you don't do you, like I said im happy to confirm them I just dont want you to trade your whole team for Nat picks that's all :)
I haven't sold rocky and he's my whole team so I'm fine atm
Should only have maybe 1 more like this coming. Then I better make sure my research is correct
I wonder if he will be as prolific next year with Redden coming back from injury and Dayne Beams ? joining the club ?
Down to a 110 ave is my guess
Does this mean Rocky is up for trade? :)
Quote from: T Dog on October 14, 2014, 06:50:04 PM
Does this mean Rocky is up for trade? :)
For O'Meara, Shiel, D.Beams or Treloar he might be unless you can offer up a nice package
Quote from: R.Griffen on October 14, 2014, 06:51:22 PM
Quote from: T Dog on October 14, 2014, 06:50:04 PM
Does this mean Rocky is up for trade? :)
For O'Meara, Shiel, D.Beams or Treloar he might be unless you can offer up a nice package
How about 5 nat draft picks :-X
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 14, 2014, 06:53:37 PM
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Quote from: T Dog on October 14, 2014, 06:50:04 PM
Does this mean Rocky is up for trade? :)
For O'Meara, Shiel, D.Beams or Treloar he might be unless you can offer up a nice package
How about 5 nat draft picks :-X
Nat pick 5 +?
Quote from: R.Griffen on October 14, 2014, 06:56:48 PM
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Quote from: R.Griffen on October 14, 2014, 06:51:22 PM
Quote from: T Dog on October 14, 2014, 06:50:04 PM
Does this mean Rocky is up for trade? :)
For O'Meara, Shiel, D.Beams or Treloar he might be unless you can offer up a nice package
How about 5 nat draft picks :-X
Nat pick 5 +?
All jokes aside, if you do try and trade him you better get a really high scoring player/captain to replace him or I will reject the trade.
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 14, 2014, 06:58:48 PM
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Quote from: R.Griffen on October 14, 2014, 06:51:22 PM
Quote from: T Dog on October 14, 2014, 06:50:04 PM
Does this mean Rocky is up for trade? :)
For O'Meara, Shiel, D.Beams or Treloar he might be unless you can offer up a nice package
How about 5 nat draft picks :-X
Nat pick 5 +?
All jokes aside, if you do try and trade him you better get a really high scoring player/captain to replace him or I will reject the trade.
I know I am not giving him away lightly. I would really like pick 1 as I see the guy who is going 1 being a future star. Also why I said I only want O'Meara, Treloar, Shiel or Beams
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Quote from: R.Griffen on October 14, 2014, 06:51:22 PM
Quote from: T Dog on October 14, 2014, 06:50:04 PM
Does this mean Rocky is up for trade? :)
For O'Meara, Shiel, D.Beams or Treloar he might be unless you can offer up a nice package
How about 5 nat draft picks :-X
Nat pick 5 +?
All jokes aside, if you do try and trade him you better get a really high scoring player/captain to replace him or I will reject the trade.
I know I am not giving him away lightly. I would really like pick 1 as I see the guy who is going 1 being a future star. Also why I said I only want O'Meara, Treloar, Shiel or Beams
You have a superstar at the moment, why would you even think of trading him.
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Quote from: T Dog on October 14, 2014, 06:50:04 PM
Does this mean Rocky is up for trade? :)
For O'Meara, Shiel, D.Beams or Treloar he might be unless you can offer up a nice package
How about 5 nat draft picks :-X
Nat pick 5 +?
All jokes aside, if you do try and trade him you better get a really high scoring player/captain to replace him or I will reject the trade.
I know I am not giving him away lightly. I would really like pick 1 as I see the guy who is going 1 being a future star. Also why I said I only want O'Meara, Treloar, Shiel or Beams
You have a superstar at the moment, why would you even think of trading him.
People will pay overs thinking he will do the same as last season
Theres an eerie silence ..... 10 coaches frantically putting offers in :P
And Griff's inbox has just blown up ;D
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 14, 2014, 07:28:21 PM
Theres an eerie silence ..... 10 coaches frantically putting offers in :P
I'm not. ::)
Quote from: T Dog on October 14, 2014, 07:29:38 PM
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 14, 2014, 07:28:21 PM
Theres an eerie silence ..... 10 coaches frantically putting offers in :P
I'm not. ::)
Why have I got no new messages yet?
Quote from: R.Griffen on October 14, 2014, 07:31:08 PM
Quote from: T Dog on October 14, 2014, 07:29:38 PM
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 14, 2014, 07:28:21 PM
Theres an eerie silence ..... 10 coaches frantically putting offers in :P
I'm not. ::)
Why have I got no new messages yet?
There are no Nat picks left, and you wont get any Rookie picks for him ;)
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 14, 2014, 07:32:34 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on October 14, 2014, 07:31:08 PM
Quote from: T Dog on October 14, 2014, 07:29:38 PM
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 14, 2014, 07:28:21 PM
Theres an eerie silence ..... 10 coaches frantically putting offers in :P
I'm not. ::)
Why have I got no new messages yet?
There are no Nat picks left, and you wont get any Rookie picks for him ;)
Nat 1 is still there I am extremely frustrated about that
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 14, 2014, 07:32:34 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on October 14, 2014, 07:31:08 PM
Quote from: T Dog on October 14, 2014, 07:29:38 PM
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 14, 2014, 07:28:21 PM
Theres an eerie silence ..... 10 coaches frantically putting offers in :P
I'm not. ::)
Why have I got no new messages yet?
There are no Nat picks left, and you wont get any Rookie picks for him ;)
Booohahahaha...lmfao ;D Oh hang on..I've got rookie picks :-[....
Quote from: R.Griffen on October 14, 2014, 07:40:19 PM
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 14, 2014, 07:32:34 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on October 14, 2014, 07:31:08 PM
Quote from: T Dog on October 14, 2014, 07:29:38 PM
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 14, 2014, 07:28:21 PM
Theres an eerie silence ..... 10 coaches frantically putting offers in :P
I'm not. ::)
Why have I got no new messages yet?
There are no Nat picks left, and you wont get any Rookie picks for him ;)
Nat 1 is still there I am extremely frustrated about that
8) I don't think it's going anywhere.
Haha I thought my offer for Rocky was dope :P Ah well
Roswell Aliens give Nat 37 + Matthew Boyd
El Paso give Mitch Grigg + Nick Holman
Tdog to confirm
Quote from: LF on October 14, 2014, 09:16:46 PM
Roswell Aliens give Nat 37 + Matthew Boyd
El Paso give Mitch Grigg + Nick Holman
Tdog to confirm
T Dog confirms. Boyd potential Bullies Capt for a year or 2. Good depth player.
To finish off my trading
Calgary Gives Koby Stevens
El Paso Gives Nat pick 37
I was really disappointed with Stevens he had a high score of 68 since round 16 a long way off of playing for Calgary now so he's a player on the out
Quote from: R.Griffen on October 15, 2014, 04:45:36 PM
To finish off my trading
Calgary Gives Koby Stevens
El Paso Gives Nat pick 37
I was really disappointed with Stevens he had a high score of 68 since round 16 a long way off of playing for Calgary now so he's a player on the out
T Dog confirms. More than happy to risk Stevens as depth. Trade needs to be seen in conjunction with the previous El Paso deal with Roswell.
Ends up being M.Grigg and Holman out for Matty Boyd and Stevens in for the Alpacas.
I'm starting 2 think we should put a cap on how many draft picks 1 coach can have in the same draft.
Quote from: Grannyboy on October 15, 2014, 05:12:38 PM
I'm starting 2 think we should put a cap on how many draft picks 1 coach can have in the same draft.
Its been concerning me for a while, Griff has had about 20+ player movements and most of them are for Nat picks :o
Not saying we shouldn't but GWS didn't have a cap
That was my last trade that will involve a pick so it's all good no need to worry
Quote from: R.Griffen on October 15, 2014, 06:03:57 PM
Not saying we shouldn't but GWS didn't have a cap
That was my last trade that will involve a pick so it's all good no need to worry
They didn't have a team
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 15, 2014, 06:05:41 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on October 15, 2014, 06:03:57 PM
Not saying we shouldn't but GWS didn't have a cap
That was my last trade that will involve a pick so it's all good no need to worry
They didn't have a team
aha good point, not trying to start a fight but I have followed the rules of trading except once which we managed to work around it so I don't think there's a problem
Quote from: R.Griffen on October 15, 2014, 06:08:09 PM
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 15, 2014, 06:05:41 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on October 15, 2014, 06:03:57 PM
Not saying we shouldn't but GWS didn't have a cap
That was my last trade that will involve a pick so it's all good no need to worry
They didn't have a team
aha good point, not trying to start a fight but I have followed the rules of trading except once which we managed to work around it so I don't think there's a problem
Yes you have, but its getting to the point where we are going to change the rules... might be called the Griff rule ;)
You know what would be worse? If all RG's draft picks fire up and gun it in the 1st 2 seasons... :o
Quote from: T Dog on October 15, 2014, 06:51:01 PM
You know what would be worse? If all RG's draft picks fire up and gun it in the 1st 2 seasons... :o
Might annoy a few coaches that traded them away ;D
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 15, 2014, 06:53:30 PM
Quote from: T Dog on October 15, 2014, 06:51:01 PM
You know what would be worse? If all RG's draft picks fire up and gun it in the 1st 2 seasons... :o
Might annoy a few coaches that traded them away ;D
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Quote from: R.Griffen on October 14, 2014, 06:51:22 PM
Quote from: T Dog on October 14, 2014, 06:50:04 PM
Does this mean Rocky is up for trade? :)
For O'Meara, Shiel, D.Beams or Treloar he might be unless you can offer up a nice package
*Sees this post.*
*Checks team*
*Looks at O'Meara, Shiel and Treloar*
Hmm - wanna chat Griff?
Quote from: Memphistopheles on October 16, 2014, 04:20:58 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on October 14, 2014, 06:51:22 PM
Quote from: T Dog on October 14, 2014, 06:50:04 PM
Does this mean Rocky is up for trade? :)
For O'Meara, Shiel, D.Beams or Treloar he might be unless you can offer up a nice package
*Sees this post.*
*Checks team*
*Looks at O'Meara, Shiel and Treloar*
Hmm - wanna chat Griff?
Are those guys up for trade?
Feels a big trade coming on :o
Quote from: R.Griffen on October 16, 2014, 04:25:45 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on October 16, 2014, 04:20:58 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on October 14, 2014, 06:51:22 PM
Quote from: T Dog on October 14, 2014, 06:50:04 PM
Does this mean Rocky is up for trade? :)
For O'Meara, Shiel, D.Beams or Treloar he might be unless you can offer up a nice package
*Sees this post.*
*Checks team*
*Looks at O'Meara, Shiel and Treloar*
Hmm - wanna chat Griff?
Are those guys up for trade?
Possibly - check your PMs...
Trade between Ele & Myself :)
Hawaii Give: M.Wright + B.Jacobs + C.Moller
Titans Give: J.Pittard + Nat 16 + Rookie 15
I'm short on Fwds due to losing Bartel and even though Pittard, pick 16 & R15 is giving Ele atleast one future star!! Fwds averaging Ova 80 I've found are hard to get so this is a good trade for the Titans future premiership hopes :)
Ele to confirm 8)
Dallas gets: Sutcliffe, Hallahan and Duryea.
Hawaii gets: Duffield, Ibbotson and Savage.
Ele to confirm.
Quote from: picker_man on October 18, 2014, 06:04:14 PM
Trade between Ele & Myself :)
Hawaii Give: M.Wright + B.Jacobs + C.Moller
Titans Give: J.Pittard + Nat 16 + Rookie 15
I'm short on Fwds due to losing Bartel and even though Pittard, pick 16 & R15 is giving Ele atleast one future star!! Fwds averaging Ova 80 I've found are hard to get so this is a good trade for the Titans future premiership hopes :)
Ele to confirm 8)
Martin, Harvey, Buddy,
Bartel,
Gray, Westhoff, LeCras
Fwd's averaging over 80 hard to get :P I've lost 2 and still got 5
Quote from: R.Griffen on October 18, 2014, 11:05:39 PM
Quote from: picker_man on October 18, 2014, 06:04:14 PM
Trade between Ele & Myself :)
Hawaii Give: M.Wright + B.Jacobs + C.Moller
Titans Give: J.Pittard + Nat 16 + Rookie 15
I'm short on Fwds due to losing Bartel and even though Pittard, pick 16 & R15 is giving Ele atleast one future star!! Fwds averaging Ova 80 I've found are hard to get so this is a good trade for the Titans future premiership hopes :)
Ele to confirm 8)
Martin, Harvey, Buddy, Bartel, Gray, Westhoff, LeCras
Fwd's averaging over 80 hard to get :P I've lost 2 and still got 5
:(
Quote from: picker_man on October 18, 2014, 06:04:14 PM
Trade between Ele & Myself :)
Hawaii Give: M.Wright + B.Jacobs + C.Moller
Titans Give: J.Pittard + Nat 16 + Rookie 15
I'm short on Fwds due to losing Bartel and even though Pittard, pick 16 & R15 is giving Ele atleast one future star!! Fwds averaging Ova 80 I've found are hard to get so this is a good trade for the Titans future premiership hopes :)
Ele to confirm 8)
Confirmed!
Hurts me a lot short-term with Pittard not at the level of Wright yet, but I think one day he might be despite the hate he cops from PTA supporters :P Upgrades in the second parts of the deal to compensate for the proven nature of Wright over Pittard!
Thanks T 8)
Quote from: Atto on October 18, 2014, 08:42:56 PM
Dallas gets: Sutcliffe, Hallahan and Duryea.
Hawaii gets: Duffield, Ibbotson and Savage.
Ele to confirm.
Also confirmed!
This is a risky deal. I give up three kids with immense potential, and I believe all will average 80+ in the near future. In return however I get an older proven performer in Duffield, an injury prone fantasy beast in Ibbo and a promising young mid/maybe back in Sav! Basically, one of Duff and Ibbo should pump out premo-esque numbers so I'm covered in that department.
Thanks Atto!
El Paso and Calgary trading some talent in this deal.
El Paso gives: Zorko and Christensen
Calgary gives: Goldstein and Westhoff.
El Paso bringing in some needed ruck talent. Happy to thin out a mid to get it.
R Griff to confirm.
Quote from: T Dog on October 20, 2014, 08:31:46 AM
El Paso and Calgary trading some talent in this deal.
El Paso gives: Zorko and Christensen
Calgary gives: Goldstein and Westhoff.
El Paso bringing in some needed ruck talent. Happy to thin out a mid to get it.
R Griff to confirm.
Confirm my ruck stocks are fine with Kreuzer and super stef
Titans and El Paso exchanging EX Gun Dinosaurs in a short term trade strategy.
El Paso gives: Aaron "the toe" Sandilands
Tians give: Adam " Coon Dog" Cooney
El Paso had Sandi as bench reserve. Coon Dog adds depth.
Pickerman to confirm
Quote from: T Dog on October 20, 2014, 08:02:27 PM
Titans and El Paso exchanging EX Gun Dinosaurs in a short term trade strategy.
El Paso gives: Aaron "the toe" Sandilands
Tians give: Adam " Coon Dog" Cooney
El Paso had Sandi as bench reserve. Coon Dog adds depth.
Pickerman to confirm
Lol confirm.
Needed a premium ruck and if I can get 15+ games out of "the toe" with Smith, Dixon, Hale etc as backups I'll be happy
Quote from: T Dog on October 20, 2014, 08:02:27 PM
El Paso gives: Aaron "the toe" Sandilands
Tians give: Adam " Coon Dog" Cooney
You're a shaped, layered entree? Mmm sounds tasty, Carn the Tians! It's got a nice ring to it ;D ha that's hilarious if you're a chef lmao!
*Hears only the echoes of his own laughter, quietly sits back down* :-[
:o we'll I won't be trading with El Paso no more, hate it when ppl call us shaped, layered entrees >:(
Trade between Springfield Isotopes & Vancouver Titans
Titans give: C.Dixon + D.Lang + K.Brand
Isotopes give: T.Nicholls + Rookie 24 + Nat 48
Have finally got my rucks sorted for the future with Smith & now Nicholls and even though I like the look of Darcy Lang and Dixon may live up to his potential soon I thought getting my rucks sorted and trading in Nicholls was my teams main priority :)
GB to confirm.
Quote from: picker_man on October 20, 2014, 09:40:43 PM
Trade between Springfield Isotopes & Vancouver Titans
Titans give: C.Dixon + D.Lang + K.Brand
Isotopes give: T.Nicholls + Rookie 24 + Nat 48
Have finally got my rucks sorted for the future with Smith & now Nicholls and even though I like the look of Darcy Lang and Dixon may live up to his potential soon I thought getting my rucks sorted and trading in Nicholls was my teams main priority :)
GB to confirm.
Confirm. I have 4-5 young rucks on the verge of the 1st team, Dixon gives me cover for the forward line especially with TJL in my team. Rook 24/Nat 48 I would expect to get players similar to the quality of Lang and Brand but this way I know what I'm getting without drafting.
Quote from: picker_man on October 20, 2014, 09:31:25 PM
:o we'll I won't be trading with El Paso no more, hate it when ppl call us shaped, layered entrees >:(
Pmsl.
Quote from: Grannyboy on October 20, 2014, 09:14:16 PM
Quote from: T Dog on October 20, 2014, 08:02:27 PM
El Paso gives: Aaron "the toe" Sandilands
Tians give: Adam " Coon Dog" Cooney
You're a shaped, layered entree? Mmm sounds tasty, Carn the Tians! It's got a nice ring to it ;D ha that's hilarious if you're a chef lmao!
*Hears only the echoes of his own laughter, quietly sits back down* :-[
:-[
Springfield Isotopes gives: Jack Trengove [Melb]
Washington Senators gives: NAT pick 41 (round 4)
I believe he could get back to his best in the future when he recovers, I have plenty of young players on my team.
GB to confirm
Quote from: popedelio on October 21, 2014, 09:32:50 PM
Springfield Isotopes gives: Jack Trengove [Melb]
Washington Senators gives: NAT pick 41 (round 4)
I believe he could get back to his best in the future when he recovers, I have plenty of young players on my team.
GB to confirm
Confirm, recent news on his foot has him on the outer for a year at Springfield by then I should have a good spread of mids and he may just be back up, IF he gets back to how he was. I'd prefer to pick up an 18yo in the Nat draft.
Wow, should've said something. Coulda lined you up with a better pick there.. :p
Quote from: Grannyboy on October 20, 2014, 11:36:16 PM
I'm putting Alex Johnson, defender, and Jack Trengove, midfielder, on the table if anyone wants to take the chance. I'll take a fringe player or late picks for them. They're both still young and could have a fair bit of footy left in them.
I did. Maybe I shoulda waited but I confirmed already.
Ah, I stand correct. My fault then, play ball!
Quote from: Grannyboy on October 21, 2014, 10:28:30 PM
Quote from: popedelio on October 21, 2014, 09:32:50 PM
Springfield Isotopes gives: Jack Trengove [Melb]
Washington Senators gives: NAT pick 41 (round 4)
I believe he could get back to his best in the future when he recovers, I have plenty of young players on my team.
GB to confirm
Confirm, recent news on his foot has him on the outer for a year at Springfield by then I should have a good spread of mids and he may just be back up, IF he gets back to how he was. I'd prefer to pick up an 18yo in the Nat draft.
Pick 41 very interesting since I have the 8 picks before that could do with that aswell :p
Pretty stoked with the squad lads, but always keen to trade 8) Hit my inbox!
Quote from: elephants on October 21, 2014, 11:11:54 PM
Pretty stoked with the squad lads, but always keen to trade 8) Hit my inbox!
same, I have updated my best team on my team page on the topic page
Trade between Hawaiin Hydrogen Bombs and the Vancouver Titans
Vancouver Give: Zac Smith + Nathan Freeman + Rookie 21
Hawaii Give: Shaun Higgins + Kieran Harper + Shem Tatupu
Higgins will fit in nicely at D3 with his 75 ave, think he could improve that at the Roo's aswell. This is why I added rookie 21 cause that def status will make him more valuable next yr :)
Ele to confirm
Quote from: picker_man on October 24, 2014, 12:44:28 PM
Trade between Hawaiin Hydrogen Bombs and the Vancouver Titans
Vancouver Give: Zac Smith + Nathan Freeman + Rookie 21
Hawaii Give: Shaun Higgins + Kieran Harper + Shem Tatupu
Higgins will fit in nicely at D3 with his 75 ave, think he could improve that at the Roo's aswell. This is why I added rookie 21 cause that def status will make him more valuable next yr :)
Ele to confirm
Confirmed! Lost my D3 in Higgins but I grab a good young ruck while attempting to add to my crappy mid depth :P
Arizona Give: Josh Green + Rookie 7
Calgary Give: Michael Johnson + Darren Minchington
I need a back and Johnson should be good for another 2-3 years. Josh Green is a backup forward doesn't affect my team losing him and Rookie 7 will get you a good player but not what im after.
Griff to confirm
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 26, 2014, 05:24:43 PM
Arizona Give: Josh Green + Rookie 7
Calgary Give: Michael Johnson + Darren Minchington
I need a back and Johnson should be good for another 2-3 years. Josh Green is a backup forward doesn't affect my team losing him and Rookie 7 will get you a good player but not what im after.
Griff to confirm
Confirm
Hawaii Gives: Tom Mitchell + Kieran Harper + Nat 16
Calgary Gives: Mark LeCras + Jimmy Toumpas + Nat 15
RG to confirm.
Quote from: elephants on October 27, 2014, 11:32:24 PM
Hawaii Gives: Tom Mitchell + Kieran Harper + Nat 16
Calgary Gives: Mark LeCras + Jimmy Toumpas + Nat 15
RG to confirm.
Confirm
Trade between myself and Grannyboy, so LF and Ele will have to rule on this one :)
Arizona Give: Jason Ashby
Springfield Give: Nat Pick 24
GB is keen on Ashby as a back-up for Hibberd if needed ..asada or injury.
I have 2 Bomber defenders so he might be good as back-up for me but im happy to see what i can get from the Nat with pick 24
GB to confirm
Confirm. I want another young defender, Ashby looks promising and has already played in the firsts. He was taken at pick 34 in the AFL draft 2 years ago, swapping pick 24 from this year seems about right for him.
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 29, 2014, 05:36:52 PM
Trade between myself and Grannyboy, so LF and Ele will have to rule on this one :)
Arizona Give: Jason Ashby
Springfield Give: Nat Pick 24
GB is keen on Ashby as a back-up for Hibberd if needed ..asada or injury.
I have 2 Bomber defenders so he might be good as back-up for me but im happy to see what i can get from the Nat with pick 24
GB to confirm
Quote from: Grannyboy on October 29, 2014, 07:06:53 PM
Confirm. I want another young defender, Ashby looks promising and has already played in the firsts. He was taken at pick 34 in the AFL draft 2 years ago, swapping pick 24 from this year seems about right for him.
Trade was approved by trades committee
Vancouver Give: L. Montagna + Nat Pick 28
Calgary Give: Rookie Pick 7 + Nat Pick 18
Picker Man to confirm
I feel like I have a big chance with Rocky in my team to win the premiership or go close again. I was 1 premium short in the middle. If the Joey of old returns? the flag will return to Calgary :p
Quote from: R.Griffen on November 01, 2014, 12:09:01 AM
Vancouver Give: L. Montagna + Nat Pick 28
Calgary Give: Rookie Pick 7 + Nat Pick 18
Picker Man to confirm
I feel like I have a big chance with Rocky in my team to win the premiership or go close again. I was 1 premium short in the middle. If the Joey of old returns? the flag will return to Calgary :p
Confirmed.
Doesn't really help my premiership chances as think Montagna has a bit left him but think the picks seemed worth it :)
El Paso giving Murphy, Watts, Curren
Hawaii gives Stevie J, Zac Smith; and RD15
El Paso keen to get in Zac Smith as ruck depth and Stevie J is a favorite.
Hawaii to confirm.
Confirmed! Thanks TD!
Calgary Gives: M.Lecras + Nat 21 + Nat 28 + Nat 45
Vancouver Gives: S.Higgins + K.Cornes + R.Bewick + K.Harper
I feel like Vancouver is becoming apart of Calgary so many trades between us
Picker Man to Confirm
Quote from: R.Griffen on November 05, 2014, 03:03:21 PM
Calgary Gives: M.Lecras + Nat 21 + Nat 28 + Nat 45
Vancouver Gives: S.Higgins + K.Cornes + R.Bewick + K.Harper
I feel like Vancouver is becoming apart of Calgary so many trades between us
Picker Man to Confirm
Haha think weve just about got everyone were interested each other now ;D
& confirmed cheers Griff.
Vancouver trade: Matthew Wright + Jack Viney + Rookie Pick 7
Dallas trade: Bryce Gibbs + National Pick 26 + Thomas Downie
picker_man to confirm
I lose a solid midfielder but Wright makes my forward line look stronger and the way I see it, solid midfielders are easier to get than solid forwards.
Quote from: Atto on November 06, 2014, 07:46:13 PM
Vancouver trade: Matthew Wright + Jack Viney + Rookie Pick 7
Dallas trade: Bryce Gibbs + National Pick 26 + Thomas Downie
picker_man to confirm
I lose a solid midfielder but Wright makes my forward line look stronger and the way I see it, solid midfielders are easier to get than solid forwards.
Really needed a premium mid was lookin a little light on there, Losing Wright & Viney could come back to hurt think they both have lots of potential but Gibbs will make my team look alot stronger as a premiership threat I reckon
Cheers Atto 8)
Revised trade with our last being rejected
Vancouver Gives: Matthew Wright + Jack Viney + Rookie Pick 24
Dallas Gives : Bryce Gibbs + National Pick 26 + Thomas Downie
We have swapped Rookie 7 for Rookie 24
Atto to confirm.
Quote from: picker_man on November 10, 2014, 12:44:12 AM
Revised trade with our last being rejected
Vancouver Gives: Matthew Wright + Jack Viney + Rookie Pick 24
Dallas Gives : Bryce Gibbs + National Pick 26 + Thomas Downie
We have swapped Rookie 7 for Rookie 24
Atto to confirm.
Confirm.
Dallas and El Paso dealing:
El Paso gives T. Bugg and B. Brown
Dallas gives: J. Caddy and T. Bellchambers.
El Paso bringing in potential DPP's.
Atto to confirm.
El Paso & Vancouver at it again 8)
Vancouver Gives: M.LeCras + E.Betts + Rookie Pick 7
El Paso Gives: L.Dunstan + M.Boyd + M.Shaw
Tdog to confirm.
Quote from: picker_man on November 10, 2014, 02:00:59 PM
El Paso & Vancouver at it again 8)
Vancouver Gives: M.LeCras + E.Betts + Rookie Pick 7
El Paso Gives: L.Dunstan + M.Boyd + M.Shaw
Tdog to confirm.
T Dog confirms.
Quote from: T Dog on November 10, 2014, 01:21:36 PM
Dallas and El Paso dealing:
El Paso gives T. Bugg and B. Brown
Dallas gives: J. Caddy and T. Bellchambers.
El Paso bringing in potential DPP's.
Atto to confirm.
Confirmed.
Quote from: T Dog on November 10, 2014, 01:21:36 PM
Dallas and El Paso dealing:
El Paso gives T. Bugg and B. Brown
Dallas gives: J. Caddy and T. Bellchambers.
El Paso bringing in potential DPP's.
Atto to confirm.
What! o.0
How on earth is this fair?
Bellchambers > Brown and Caddy way better than Bugg
First trade between Vancouver and Arizona.
Arizona Give: Liam Sumner + Nat 24 + Nat 31 + Rookie 18
Vancouver Give: Jake Neade + Nat 18 + + Nat 21 + Nat 45
Bit of a player swap here as Vancouver was keen on Sumner and i wanted to trade my rookie pick for a Nat upgrade.
Picker_man to confirm
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 11, 2014, 06:07:52 PM
Quote from: T Dog on November 10, 2014, 01:21:36 PM
Dallas and El Paso dealing:
El Paso gives T. Bugg and B. Brown
Dallas gives: J. Caddy and T. Bellchambers.
El Paso bringing in potential DPP's.
Atto to confirm.
What! o.0
How on earth is this fair?
Bellchambers > Brown and Caddy way better than Bugg
Bellchambers is way better then Brown only atm... but I think Caddy is a spud and Bugg as a defender over the next few yrs will out class him.... With Ryder gone Chambers may flourish but we all hope that with new players, I highly rate Bugg obviously like El Paso so I think its definantly fair just to chuck in another opinion ;D
There have been lots of messages regarding this trade. Have spoken to TDog about it and haven't heard anything since. Will be looked at by the mods and the trade committee.
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on November 11, 2014, 06:15:29 PM
First trade between Vancouver and Arizona.
Arizona Give: Liam Sumner + Nat 24 + Nat 31 + Rookie 18
Vancouver Give: Jake Neade + Nat 18 + + Nat 21 + Nat 45
Bit of a player swap here as Vancouver was keen on Sumner and i wanted to trade my rookie pick for a Nat upgrade.
Picker_man to confirm
Got a trade outta ya mate 8)
Im hoping Sumner finds himself a regular HF spot next yr, Hence giving up Neade and a few Nat pick upgrades to get it done, if I grab the right player with R18 I'll be more than happy with the deal
Cheers FF.
Calgary Give Matthew Stokes + Isaac Smith
El Paso Give Jamie Elliot + Mark LeCras
Looks like LeCras leaves and might be coming back due to not many forwards been around on the market. I have been willing to give up Isaac Smith as I think he will never be a 105+ average midfielder and Matthew Stokes is 30+. I was able to get Elliott who shows a lot of potential and is some depth in my forwardline hopefully
TDog to Confirm
T Dog confirms.
Has been a few trades to incrementally strengthen mid cover.
Quote from: R.Griffen on November 11, 2014, 07:02:27 PM
Calgary Give Matthew Stokes + Isaac Smith
El Paso Give Jamie Elliot + Mark LeCras
Looks like LeCras leaves and might be coming back due to not many forwards been around on the market. I have been willing to give up Isaac Smith as I think he will never be a 105+ average midfielder and Matthew Stokes is 30+. I was able to get Elliott who shows a lot of potential and is some depth in my forwardline hopefully
TDog to Confirm
Another weird trade though I'm not sure I'd go as far as to block it.
Two of the best forward options (in the Top 20-25 for scorers I reckon without checking) for two decent but not great midfielders (Probably in the best 100-150 averagin mids).
Seems a bit one-sided
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 12, 2014, 03:41:30 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on November 11, 2014, 07:02:27 PM
Calgary Give Matthew Stokes + Isaac Smith
El Paso Give Jamie Elliot + Mark LeCras
Looks like LeCras leaves and might be coming back due to not many forwards been around on the market. I have been willing to give up Isaac Smith as I think he will never be a 105+ average midfielder and Matthew Stokes is 30+. I was able to get Elliott who shows a lot of potential and is some depth in my forwardline hopefully
TDog to Confirm
Another weird trade though I'm not sure I'd go as far as to block it.
Two of the best forward options (in the Top 20-25 for scorers I reckon without checking) for two decent but not great midfielders (Probably in the best 100-150 averagin mids).
Seems a bit one-sided
Thanks Memph...but I am ok with it. What I have been doing is using a few trade deals to change mids cover from Boyd and Dunstan to I. Smith and Stokes at the expense of Elliott to Betts. I have a few picks (9) in the recycled draft to backfill the lines. The other trade with Atto causing feedback will be cancelled or reworked. Hope that makes some sense.
at this rate we should all be thinking Smith is going to be a premium has increased his average +8 in the last few years. from 77-86 and then 86-94 so 94-102?
I thought it was okay when i first saw it.
Stokes ..age 30 ..average 90
Smith .. age 26 ..average 94 ..will improve
LeCras .. age 28 .. average 89
Elliott .. age 22 ..average 84 ... will improve
Ill run it through the usual process, mods and trade committee.
Thinking we might end the trade period early .. end of this week. Way too many messages and complaints its doing my head in. We have already had 40+ trades. There will definitely be a trade limit imposed for season 2015.
Not confirmed yet but looking likely.
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on November 12, 2014, 06:19:24 PM
Thinking we might end the trade period early .. end of this week. Way too many messages and complaints its doing my head in. We have already had 40+ trades. There will definitely be a trade limit imposed for season 2015.
Not confirmed yet but looking likely.
Have spoken with Grannyboy ... Trade period 1 will end at 9pm EST on Sunday 16th November. If you have any trades get them in before then. Remember there will be a trade period 2 after all drafts are complete so don't think you have to go crazy trading before sunday.
9pm means 6pm in WA right smack at dinner time how about it ends a bit later than that since I guess there will be a lot of last minute trading happening as it happens that way in all the other comps
Quote from: LF on November 12, 2014, 06:48:26 PM
9pm means 6pm in WA right smack at dinner time how about it ends a bit later than that since I guess there will be a lot of last minute trading happening as it happens that way in all the other comps
I guess so .. cant we just do our trades if we want to now (this week) ? this trade period has been going for ages.
I wont be around as i work early and will be pushing up the Zeds after 9pm.
How about 11 pm surely people will be done by then if not there is another trade period ;)
No jokes about Zed being dead GB ;)
Arizona Give: Liam Sumner + Nat 24 + Nat 31 + Rookie 18
Vancouver Give: Jake Neade + Nat 18 + + Nat 21 + Nat 45
Have spoken with Ele, trade approved, seems close enough.
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on November 12, 2014, 07:22:48 PM
No jokes about Zed being dead GB ;)
Oo but wanna, :-\ can't stop, :o must...blueberry pancakes...chopper...l.a. privileges...the fking kangaroo...this watch is your birthright...who is Zed? :-[
Quote from: Atto on November 10, 2014, 02:13:22 PM
Quote from: T Dog on November 10, 2014, 01:21:36 PM
Dallas and El Paso dealing:
El Paso gives T. Bugg and B. Brown
Dallas gives: J. Caddy and T. Bellchambers.
El Paso bringing in potential DPP's.
Atto to confirm.
Confirmed.
This trade now withdrawn.
Calgary and El Paso have reworked the rejected trade:
El Paso gives: M. LeCras + J. Elliot + J. Prudden
and
Calgary gives: I. Smith + M. Stokes + T. Colyer
R Griffen to confirm
Quote from: T Dog on November 14, 2014, 11:36:04 AM
Calgary and El Paso have reworked the rejected trade:
El Paso gives: M. LeCras + J. Elliot + J. Prudden
and
Calgary gives: I. Smith + M. Stokes + T. Colyer
R Griffen to confirm
Confirm
Let's see how we go this time?
I give: N9 + N11
SR gives: N6 + N19
SR to confirm.
Quote from: elephants on November 16, 2014, 12:29:22 AM
I give: N9 + N11
SR gives: N6 + N19
SR to confirm.
confirm
I'll regret this but here we gooo..
I give: J.Billings + N6 + N19
Memph gives: T.Cotchin + S.Tunbridge + R22
Memph to confirm.
Vancouver Gives: M.Shaw + Nat 28
Los Angelas Gives: T.Hawkins + M.Duffy
Needed a solid scorer forward with Pav on the decline and unsure if Danger will Keep DPP. A good young back and Nat pick to make up for it :)
SR to confirm.
Quote from: elephants on November 16, 2014, 12:56:45 AM
I'll regret this but here we gooo..
I give: J.Billings + N6 + N19
Memph gives: T.Cotchin + S.Tunbridge + R22
Memph to confirm.
Confirm.
Losing Cotchin hurts but we'll dominate the draft now and Billings could be as good as Cotchin and is a mid/fwd as well which is handy.
Oh yeah reasons, basically Cotchin completes my super midfield (Pendles, Murphy, Cotchin, Parker, Jack, Heppell) at the cost of my F4/5 and some big Nat picks. I paid big but you've got to for the big names, Cotch could be elite one day.
Quote from: picker_man on November 16, 2014, 01:10:46 AM
Vancouver Gives: M.Shaw + Nat 28
Los Angelas Gives: T.Hawkins + M.Duffy
Needed a solid scorer forward with Pav on the decline and unsure if Danger will Keep DPP. A good young back and Nat pick to make up for it :)
SR to confirm.
confirm, i have good fwd depth, so bringihg in a good young shaw plus another solid nat pick works for us
Roswell Gives: Nat 14 + Nick Holman
Asuncion Gives: Nat 19 + Brad Hartman
Just trying to improve our forward depth and youth and I like the look of Hartman having him in another XV team as well and have plenty of depth mids to so Holman isn`t a great loss the pick upgrade is to even the trade
Memph to confirm
Quote from: LF on November 16, 2014, 03:41:03 PM
Roswell Gives: Nat 14 + Nick Holman
Asuncion Gives: Nat 19 + Brad Hartman
Just trying to improve our forward depth and youth and I like the look of Hartman having him in another XV team as well and have plenty of depth mids to so Holman isn`t a great loss the pick upgrade is to even the trade
Memph to confirm
Confirm.
Hartmann looks like he'll be okay but I also think Holman will turn out well so that's a fair deal. Hartman probably shown a bit more so far so the pick upgrade helps.
Thanks to LF and especially FS for your help doing this deal as I can't get on to chat at work today :P
Dallas gives: Josh Caddy + Mitch Clark + Joel Tippett
Vancouver gives: Nat Pick 24 + Nat Pick 26 + Rookie Pick 18
I think this is a fair trade, helps my nat and rookie draft positions.
picker_man to confirm
Quote from: Atto on November 16, 2014, 05:09:19 PM
Dallas gives: Josh Caddy + Mitch Clark + Joel Tippett
Vancouver gives: Nat Pick 24 + Nat Pick 26 + Rookie Pick 18
I think this is a fair trade, helps my nat and rookie draft positions.
picker_man to confirm
Needed to build up some decent depth players I think Caddy & Clark help with that
Confirmed :)
Quote from: picker_man on November 16, 2014, 05:14:59 PM
Quote from: Atto on November 16, 2014, 05:09:19 PM
Dallas gives: Josh Caddy + Mitch Clark + Joel Tippett
Vancouver gives: Nat Pick 24 + Nat Pick 26 + Rookie Pick 18
I think this is a fair trade, helps my nat and rookie draft positions.
picker_man to confirm
Needed to build up some decent depth players I think Caddy & Clark help with that
Confirmed :)
L. O. L.
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 16, 2014, 05:33:43 PM
Quote from: picker_man on November 16, 2014, 05:14:59 PM
Quote from: Atto on November 16, 2014, 05:09:19 PM
Dallas gives: Josh Caddy + Mitch Clark + Joel Tippett
Vancouver gives: Nat Pick 24 + Nat Pick 26 + Rookie Pick 18
I think this is a fair trade, helps my nat and rookie draft positions.
picker_man to confirm
Needed to build up some decent depth players I think Caddy & Clark help with that
Confirmed :)
L. O. L.
What a so funny eh??
Either you don't rate picks in the top 30 or Caddy and Clark??
Quote from: Atto on November 16, 2014, 05:09:19 PM
Dallas gives: Josh Caddy + Mitch Clark + Joel Tippett
Vancouver gives: Nat Pick 24 + Nat Pick 26 + Rookie Pick 18
I think this is a fair trade, helps my nat and rookie draft positions.
picker_man to confirm
Everyone seems to agree this trade definitely needs some work. Caddy and Clark for 2 post 20 picks doesn't seem close, Tippett for Rook 18 is close to fair but doesn't help even the trade up.
Quote from: Grannyboy on November 16, 2014, 10:14:09 PM
Quote from: Atto on November 16, 2014, 05:09:19 PM
Dallas gives: Josh Caddy + Mitch Clark + Joel Tippett
Vancouver gives: Nat Pick 24 + Nat Pick 26 + Rookie Pick 18
I think this is a fair trade, helps my nat and rookie draft positions.
picker_man to confirm
Everyone seems to agree this trade definitely needs some work. Caddy and Clark for 2 post 20 picks doesn't seem close, Tippett for Rook 18 is close to fair but doesn't help even the trade up.
Tippet is a spud wouldn't take him with my last compensation pick let alone R18 lol but yeah all good man FF let us know before so we worked this out were I'll get another spud in Silvagni and give Nat 31 aswell
Nat 24 + Nat 26 + Nat 31 + Rookie 18
For
J.Caddy + M.Clark + J.Tippet + A.Silvagni
Clark hasn't played in 2 yrs expected to ave 60 odd in his profile and Caddy will unfortunately more then like be mid only so surely that's all good now??
Atto to confirm :)
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on November 12, 2014, 06:59:03 PM
Quote from: LF on November 12, 2014, 06:48:26 PM
9pm means 6pm in WA right smack at dinner time how about it ends a bit later than that since I guess there will be a lot of last minute trading happening as it happens that way in all the other comps
I guess so .. cant we just do our trades if we want to now (this week) ? this trade period has been going for ages.
I wont be around as i work early and will be pushing up the Zeds after 9pm.
How about 11 pm surely people will be done by then if not there is another trade period ;)
If anyone has anymore trades they need to be posted before 11pm (8pm Perth). 10 minutes time.
Pm and Atto if you want to re-do your last one you've got til then, hurry up!
Quote from: picker_man on November 16, 2014, 10:48:10 PM
Quote from: Grannyboy on November 16, 2014, 10:14:09 PM
Quote from: Atto on November 16, 2014, 05:09:19 PM
Dallas gives: Josh Caddy + Mitch Clark + Joel Tippett
Vancouver gives: Nat Pick 24 + Nat Pick 26 + Rookie Pick 18
I think this is a fair trade, helps my nat and rookie draft positions.
picker_man to confirm
Everyone seems to agree this trade definitely needs some work. Caddy and Clark for 2 post 20 picks doesn't seem close, Tippett for Rook 18 is close to fair but doesn't help even the trade up.
Tippet is a spud wouldn't take him with my last compensation pick let alone R18 lol but yeah all good man FF let us know before so we worked this out were I'll get another spud in Silvagni and give Nat 31 aswell
Nat 24 + Nat 26 + Nat 31 + Rookie 18
For
J.Caddy + M.Clark + J.Tippet + A.Silvagni
Clark hasn't played in 2 yrs expected to ave 60 odd in his profile and Caddy will unfortunately more then like be mid only so surely that's all good now??
Atto to confirm :)
It's closer but I think FF is offline now so we'll have to talk about it tomorrow. I think Caddy was the main sticking point and the fact that there were no picks under 20 to compensate for him, so I can't promise this will pass either.
Quote from: picker_man on November 16, 2014, 10:48:10 PM
Quote from: Grannyboy on November 16, 2014, 10:14:09 PM
Quote from: Atto on November 16, 2014, 05:09:19 PM
Dallas gives: Josh Caddy + Mitch Clark + Joel Tippett
Vancouver gives: Nat Pick 24 + Nat Pick 26 + Rookie Pick 18
I think this is a fair trade, helps my nat and rookie draft positions.
picker_man to confirm
Everyone seems to agree this trade definitely needs some work. Caddy and Clark for 2 post 20 picks doesn't seem close, Tippett for Rook 18 is close to fair but doesn't help even the trade up.
Tippet is a spud wouldn't take him with my last compensation pick let alone R18 lol but yeah all good man FF let us know before so we worked this out were I'll get another spud in Silvagni and give Nat 31 aswell
Nat 24 + Nat 26 + Nat 31 + Rookie 18
For
J.Caddy + M.Clark + J.Tippet + A.Silvagni
Clark hasn't played in 2 yrs expected to ave 60 odd in his profile and Caddy will unfortunately more then like be mid only so surely that's all good now??
Atto to confirm :)
Confirm. One minute before the deadline. ;)
Hawaii? give Tom Mitchell
Calgary give Lance Franklin
Else to confirm if
Think we're a bit late there mate.
If not, confirm.
If so, bugger. We'll go next window.
Quote from: Grannyboy on November 16, 2014, 10:52:52 PM
Quote from: picker_man on November 16, 2014, 10:48:10 PM
Quote from: Grannyboy on November 16, 2014, 10:14:09 PM
Quote from: Atto on November 16, 2014, 05:09:19 PM
Dallas gives: Josh Caddy + Mitch Clark + Joel Tippett
Vancouver gives: Nat Pick 24 + Nat Pick 26 + Rookie Pick 18
I think this is a fair trade, helps my nat and rookie draft positions.
picker_man to confirm
Everyone seems to agree this trade definitely needs some work. Caddy and Clark for 2 post 20 picks doesn't seem close, Tippett for Rook 18 is close to fair but doesn't help even the trade up.
Tippet is a spud wouldn't take him with my last compensation pick let alone R18 lol but yeah all good man FF let us know before so we worked this out were I'll get another spud in Silvagni and give Nat 31 aswell
Nat 24 + Nat 26 + Nat 31 + Rookie 18
For
J.Caddy + M.Clark + J.Tippet + A.Silvagni
Clark hasn't played in 2 yrs expected to ave 60 odd in his profile and Caddy will unfortunately more then like be mid only so surely that's all good now??
Atto to confirm :)
It's closer but I think FF is offline now so we'll have to talk about it tomorrow. I think Caddy was the main sticking point and the fact that there were no picks under 20 to compensate for him, so I can't promise this will pass either.
In response to that mate....Cause he's getting 24 & 26 for Caddy now which is better then one mid to late teen Nat pick, Clarke is worth 31 maybe and Tippet Silvagni would be lucky to even be picked up in the rookie draft so R18 is more then fair for them so that's my reasoning but yeah that's cool let us know :)
Quote from: elephants on November 16, 2014, 11:01:01 PM
Think we're a bit late there mate.
If not, confirm.
If so, bugger. We'll go next window.
At least we know what we want unlike what's happening above ;)
Quote from: R.Griffen on November 16, 2014, 11:07:26 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 16, 2014, 11:01:01 PM
Think we're a bit late there mate.
If not, confirm.
If so, bugger. We'll go next window.
At least we know what we want unlike what's happening above ;)
??? And what's happening above? Someone whinged about our trade so we changed it lol
TRADE PERIOD ONE IS NOW CLOSED. I gave a little bit of leeway for coaches but only trades done before this post will be considered.
We now have about a two week wait until we start our National draft, it will commence in the days following the AFL Draft on the 27th of November.
Yes got the trade in!!!
Quote from: picker_man on November 16, 2014, 11:02:54 PM
Quote from: Grannyboy on November 16, 2014, 10:52:52 PM
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Quote from: Grannyboy on November 16, 2014, 10:14:09 PM
Quote from: Atto on November 16, 2014, 05:09:19 PM
Dallas gives: Josh Caddy + Mitch Clark + Joel Tippett
Vancouver gives: Nat Pick 24 + Nat Pick 26 + Rookie Pick 18
I think this is a fair trade, helps my nat and rookie draft positions.
picker_man to confirm
Everyone seems to agree this trade definitely needs some work. Caddy and Clark for 2 post 20 picks doesn't seem close, Tippett for Rook 18 is close to fair but doesn't help even the trade up.
Tippet is a spud wouldn't take him with my last compensation pick let alone R18 lol but yeah all good man FF let us know before so we worked this out were I'll get another spud in Silvagni and give Nat 31 aswell
Nat 24 + Nat 26 + Nat 31 + Rookie 18
For
J.Caddy + M.Clark + J.Tippet + A.Silvagni
Clark hasn't played in 2 yrs expected to ave 60 odd in his profile and Caddy will unfortunately more then like be mid only so surely that's all good now??
Atto to confirm :)
It's closer but I think FF is offline now so we'll have to talk about it tomorrow. I think Caddy was the main sticking point and the fact that there were no picks under 20 to compensate for him, so I can't promise this will pass either.
In response to that mate....Cause he's getting 24 & 26 for Caddy now which is better then one mid to late teen Nat pick, Clarke is worth 31 maybe and Tippet Silvagni would be lucky to even be picked up in the rookie draft so R18 is more then fair for them so that's my reasoning but yeah that's cool let us know :)
Sorry mate but I think this trade, even the revised version, is horrible and I don't like to see people ripped off which is what you're doing to Atto.
Josh Caddy has shown some very good signs already and is poised to break-out, probably as a mid/fwd, in the coming season. Especially when some of the other older Cats midfielders retire (SJ, Bartel, Kelly etc).
He was traded to the Cats for a mid first round pick plus Nat 55 in the AFL and has since developed (and possibly gained dpp next year) which makes him worth more than two second round nat picks.
That leaves Nat 31 for Mitch Clark and Joel Tippett. Not enough I don't think - still in Pickers favour.
The addition to this deal also doesn't improve it.
Silvagni is a spud however with McPharlin's body shaky he could get some good gametime this year and is not that much worse than rookie 18 so you haven't really improved the deal at all.
However,
my main concern is that Atto is trading out four players and only getting picks in return. These kids (especially second round/later draft picks) are not going to be ready to play for at least 2-3 seasons at least whereas Caddy is just coming in to his prime, Clark could come good at Geelong and the other two are fringes of the Best 22 at their clubs already.
So that sets his already weak team back a long way and I don't really want to see any uncompetitive teams in the competition.
PS - for the record I'd have given up Nat 19 + 22 for Caddy if that's what you think he's worth Atto :P
i think it's fine tbh
memph i think you're over evaluating Clarke and Caddy to an extent Clarke is worth bugger all and is a big risk and also the rookie pick is actually pretty valuable due to the left over players from the recycled draft and Joel Tippett worth bugger all so he will get a decent player in the rookie draft
the trade isn't worth blocking imo it's nowhere near as bad as you seem to think just because you don't like the idea of him trading players for picks
Quote from: R.Griffen on November 16, 2014, 10:59:07 PM
Hawaii? give Tom Mitchell
Calgary give Lance Franklin
Else to confirm if
Wow.
Quote from: SydneyRox on November 17, 2014, 01:22:13 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on November 16, 2014, 10:59:07 PM
Hawaii? give Tom Mitchell
Calgary give Lance Franklin
Else to confirm if
Wow.
As I have now become awhere to go look at the recyled draft Mitchell went after Buddy while I had 2 picks before that
Quote from: R.Griffen on November 17, 2014, 02:27:09 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on November 17, 2014, 01:22:13 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on November 16, 2014, 10:59:07 PM
Hawaii? give Tom Mitchell
Calgary give Lance Franklin
Else to confirm if
Wow.
As I have now become awhere to go look at the recyled draft Mitchell went after Buddy while I had 2 picks before that
Bit irrelevant, I'm just an amazing drafter ;) Titch was a steal imo
Yeah shower up Memph as if I'm ripping him off, he came to me saying no one could match my offer and another coach told him to take it cause it was a good offer and then I chuck in Nat 31 aswell ::)
There's Nuthin wrong with the trade as KB said your overrating Clark a guy who hasn't played in 2 yrs mate!! So ya welcome to put your opinion in on trades I'm actually glad you did unlike other coaches but don't sit there and say your being a saint trying to stop me from ripping ppl off or some shower when that clearly isn't what happend!!
And if you wanted to pay 19 & 22 or wateva it was for caddy then ya should got ya ass into gear and made it happen then mate no point tellin someone when the trade period is over lol
That is all :)
Quote from: elephants on November 17, 2014, 02:34:16 PM
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Quote from: SydneyRox on November 17, 2014, 01:22:13 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on November 16, 2014, 10:59:07 PM
Hawaii? give Tom Mitchell
Calgary give Lance Franklin
Else to confirm if
Wow.
As I have now become awhere to go look at the recyled draft Mitchell went after Buddy while I had 2 picks before that
Bit irrelevant, I'm just an amazing drafter ;) Titch was a steal imo
I am just surprised at how much I almost overpaid for buddy :o
Quote from: SydneyRox on November 17, 2014, 02:37:00 PM
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Quote from: R.Griffen on November 17, 2014, 02:27:09 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on November 17, 2014, 01:22:13 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on November 16, 2014, 10:59:07 PM
Hawaii? give Tom Mitchell
Calgary give Lance Franklin
Else to confirm if
Wow.
As I have now become awhere to go look at the recyled draft Mitchell went after Buddy while I had 2 picks before that
Bit irrelevant, I'm just an amazing drafter ;) Titch was a steal imo
I am just surprised at how much I almost overpaid for buddy :o
Me too SR I nearly paid heaps more then Mitchell lol
But nicely done Ele if/when goes through would make you premiership favs over LF IMO mate, team looks deadly now 8)
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Quote from: R.Griffen on November 16, 2014, 10:59:07 PM
Hawaii? give Tom Mitchell
Calgary give Lance Franklin
Else to confirm if
Wow.
As I have now become awhere to go look at the recyled draft Mitchell went after Buddy while I had 2 picks before that
Bit irrelevant, I'm just an amazing drafter ;) Titch was a steal imo
I am just surprised at how much I almost overpaid for buddy :o
I don't think the trade we were going to do was going to pass. I was getting way to much
Quote from: picker_man on November 17, 2014, 02:47:08 PM
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Quote from: R.Griffen on November 16, 2014, 10:59:07 PM
Hawaii? give Tom Mitchell
Calgary give Lance Franklin
Else to confirm if
Wow.
As I have now become awhere to go look at the recyled draft Mitchell went after Buddy while I had 2 picks before that
Bit irrelevant, I'm just an amazing drafter ;) Titch was a steal imo
I am just surprised at how much I almost overpaid for buddy :o
Me too SR I nearly paid heaps more then Mitchell lol
But nicely done Ele if/when goes through would make you premiership favs over LF IMO mate, team looks deadly now 8)
Don't get too caught up Picker I have Rocky :p
Quote from: R.Griffen on November 17, 2014, 02:54:54 PM
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Quote from: R.Griffen on November 16, 2014, 10:59:07 PM
Hawaii? give Tom Mitchell
Calgary give Lance Franklin
Else to confirm if
Wow.
As I have now become awhere to go look at the recyled draft Mitchell went after Buddy while I had 2 picks before that
Bit irrelevant, I'm just an amazing drafter ;) Titch was a steal imo
I am just surprised at how much I almost overpaid for buddy :o
Me too SR I nearly paid heaps more then Mitchell lol
But nicely done Ele if/when goes through would make you premiership favs over LF IMO mate, team looks deadly now 8)
Don't get too caught up Picker I have Rocky :p
Hahah might have to retract that statement above mate just saw you have Zaccy boy too, gotta be Calgary all the way now ;D
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Quote from: R.Griffen on November 16, 2014, 10:59:07 PM
Hawaii? give Tom Mitchell
Calgary give Lance Franklin
Else to confirm if
Wow.
As I have now become awhere to go look at the recyled draft Mitchell went after Buddy while I had 2 picks before that
Bit irrelevant, I'm just an amazing drafter ;) Titch was a steal imo
I am just surprised at how much I almost overpaid for buddy :o
Me too SR I nearly paid heaps more then Mitchell lol
But nicely done Ele if/when goes through would make you premiership favs over LF IMO mate, team looks deadly now 8)
Don't get too caught up Picker I have Rocky :p
Hahah might have to retract that statement above mate just saw you have Zaccy boy too, gotta be Calgary all the way now ;D
Also I had 2 out of the 3 highest averages in my mind I am favourite ;)
Quote from: picker_man on November 17, 2014, 02:35:50 PM
Yeah shower up Memph as if I'm ripping him off, he came to me saying no one could match my offer and another coach told him to take it cause it was a good offer and then I chuck in Nat 31 aswell ::)
There's Nuthin wrong with the trade as KB said your overrating Clark a guy who hasn't played in 2 yrs mate!! So ya welcome to put your opinion in on trades I'm actually glad you did unlike other coaches but don't sit there and say your being a saint trying to stop me from ripping ppl off or some shower when that clearly isn't what happend!!
And if you wanted to pay 19 & 22 or wateva it was for caddy then ya should got ya ass into gear and made it happen then mate no point tellin someone when the trade period is over lol
That is all :)
I didn't realise Caddy was on the table otherwise I would or that a team looking to improve would trade him out when he's only just coming in to his peak. This catches me out a bit - I need to start taking the approach that I can target anyone at any club I think.
I'd also recommend shopping players around a bit more.
I'd be willing to bet that at the end of this we'll look back at this one and see what a shocker it was (none of the draftees will have played by then and Caddy and Clark, with no e, will have looked good/impressed).
I'll stand by my opinion that the trade is a rort but others are welcome to their opinions.
PS - Not sure how the Tom Mitchell for Franklin deal can pass either based on what we've seen from the two so far (Top 6 forward vs Fringe 22 player).
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 17, 2014, 03:35:40 PM
PS - Not sure how the Tom Mitchell for Franklin deal can pass either based on what we've seen from the two so far (Top 6 forward vs Fringe 22 player).
Fringe 22? He was struggling with recurring ankle injuries all season. If he had a full pre-season and was injury free he would've been in their 22. Just look what he did in r23 when given the chance.
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 17, 2014, 03:35:40 PM
Quote from: picker_man on November 17, 2014, 02:35:50 PM
Yeah shower up Memph as if I'm ripping him off, he came to me saying no one could match my offer and another coach told him to take it cause it was a good offer and then I chuck in Nat 31 aswell ::)
There's Nuthin wrong with the trade as KB said your overrating Clark a guy who hasn't played in 2 yrs mate!! So ya welcome to put your opinion in on trades I'm actually glad you did unlike other coaches but don't sit there and say your being a saint trying to stop me from ripping ppl off or some shower when that clearly isn't what happend!!
And if you wanted to pay 19 & 22 or wateva it was for caddy then ya should got ya ass into gear and made it happen then mate no point tellin someone when the trade period is over lol
That is all :)
I didn't realise Caddy was on the table otherwise I would or that a team looking to improve would trade him out when he's only just coming in to his peak. This catches me out a bit - I need to start taking the approach that I can target anyone at any club I think.
I'd also recommend shopping players around a bit more.
I'd be willing to bet that at the end of this we'll look back at this one and see what a shocker it was (none of the draftees will have played by then and Caddy and Clark, with no e, will have looked good/impressed).
I'll stand by my opinion that the trade is a rort but others are welcome to their opinions.
PS - Not sure how the Tom Mitchell for Franklin deal can pass either based on what we've seen from the two so far (Top 6 forward vs Fringe 22 player).
That's it Memph you won't know till you ask in most teams everyone is available for the right price except maybe a couple is what I've found
But What I find funny with this trade and your reasonings is you think 19 & 22 is fair enough for you to get Caddy but 24 & 26 from me is a Rort lol plus I'm giving what's left from Tippet & Silvagni cause let's be honest you wouldn't take either of them with 18, and they wouldn't even be in this trade if it didn't have to be one for one as there basically worthless and will be like my 10th back reserves unless massive improvement is found and Clark is worth 31 no doubts about it so your basically thinking this trade is a Rort from a couple of picks being 4 or 5 apart lol. Howz about you read WXVs discussion thread some guys actually know what Draft picks this year are worth in there one coach was basically labeled a genius for trading in all the picks from 16-25 ;)
And I just realised Silvagni is 27 and only ave 48 this yr (yes I didn't even look before cause new he was a spud) & played a whooping 7 games woohoo and when I add Nat 31 for him your previous comments said It didn't improve the trade much.... I rest my case if you think Silvagni is worth any Nat pick let alone 31 lol
Trade period 1 is now closed. Don't worry there will be another soon ;D
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Nat picks 33-40? Who is this R.Griffen bloke, seems to have some youth in his team
Quote from: R.Griffen on November 16, 2014, 10:59:07 PM
Hawaii? give Tom Mitchell
Calgary give Lance Franklin
Else to confirm if
in what universe is that trade going to pass??
Quote from: tabs on November 17, 2014, 07:29:49 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on November 16, 2014, 10:59:07 PM
Hawaii? give Tom Mitchell
Calgary give Lance Franklin
Else to confirm if
in what universe is that trade going to pass??
Nice to see you Tabs ;D
Trade was too late(trade deadline) and therefore did not get looked at.
Quote from: picker_man on November 17, 2014, 04:04:22 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 17, 2014, 03:35:40 PM
Quote from: picker_man on November 17, 2014, 02:35:50 PM
Yeah shower up Memph as if I'm ripping him off, he came to me saying no one could match my offer and another coach told him to take it cause it was a good offer and then I chuck in Nat 31 aswell ::)
There's Nuthin wrong with the trade as KB said your overrating Clark a guy who hasn't played in 2 yrs mate!! So ya welcome to put your opinion in on trades I'm actually glad you did unlike other coaches but don't sit there and say your being a saint trying to stop me from ripping ppl off or some shower when that clearly isn't what happend!!
And if you wanted to pay 19 & 22 or wateva it was for caddy then ya should got ya ass into gear and made it happen then mate no point tellin someone when the trade period is over lol
That is all :)
I didn't realise Caddy was on the table otherwise I would or that a team looking to improve would trade him out when he's only just coming in to his peak. This catches me out a bit - I need to start taking the approach that I can target anyone at any club I think.
I'd also recommend shopping players around a bit more.
I'd be willing to bet that at the end of this we'll look back at this one and see what a shocker it was (none of the draftees will have played by then and Caddy and Clark, with no e, will have looked good/impressed).
I'll stand by my opinion that the trade is a rort but others are welcome to their opinions.
PS - Not sure how the Tom Mitchell for Franklin deal can pass either based on what we've seen from the two so far (Top 6 forward vs Fringe 22 player).
That's it Memph you won't know till you ask in most teams everyone is available for the right price except maybe a couple is what I've found
But What I find funny with this trade and your reasonings is you think 19 & 22 is fair enough for you to get Caddy but 24 & 26 from me is a Rort lol plus I'm giving what's left from Tippet & Silvagni cause let's be honest you wouldn't take either of them with 18, and they wouldn't even be in this trade if it didn't have to be one for one as there basically worthless and will be like my 10th back reserves unless massive improvement is found and Clark is worth 31 no doubts about it so your basically thinking this trade is a Rort from a couple of picks being 4 or 5 apart lol. Howz about you read WXVs discussion thread some guys actually know what Draft picks this year are worth in there one coach was basically labeled a genius for trading in all the picks from 16-25 ;)
And I just realised Silvagni is 27 and only ave 48 this yr (yes I didn't even look before cause new he was a spud) & played a whooping 7 games woohoo and when I add Nat 31 for him your previous comments said It didn't improve the trade much.... I rest my case if you think Silvagni is worth any Nat pick let alone 31 lol
Dude I am a co-coach in WXV and I know plenty about the draft. The top 30 or so look good and the Top 7 or so are really good but it doesn't change the fact that draftees won't be getting many early games for an AFL club.
Only 10 players outside the Top 10 from last year played more than 10 games for their club this year and 22 guys didn't play a single game. A lot of those guys probably won't either - drafting has a big element of risk.
I don't think Nat 19 + 22 is fair for Caddy either - it was just to highlight the fact that he could have got a better deal for him.
Sorry I though you'd added rookie 18 to the deal not Nat 31.
I still think Clark is worth more than that given what he could produce (94 avg in 2009 and a former Top 10 draft pick) but I agree that it's a bit of a risk due to his injury history and battle with depression. He looks to be back on track now though so he'll be an absolute bargain for Pick 31 as a ruc/forward even if he goes a 75/80 avg.
It's not the worst deal ever offered but it's still not great. Anyway I'm over it, let's move on now.
Quote from: elephants on November 17, 2014, 03:43:58 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 17, 2014, 03:35:40 PM
PS - Not sure how the Tom Mitchell for Franklin deal can pass either based on what we've seen from the two so far (Top 6 forward vs Fringe 22 player).
Fringe 22? He was struggling with recurring ankle injuries all season. If he had a full pre-season and was injury free he would've been in their 22. Just look what he did in r23 when given the chance.
He got 60+ possessions and was not injured and didn't get a game the next week. Also in Round 23 JPK was injured (plus the Swans rested a few).
Titch's issue is, imo, that he's too similar to players they have a lot of already in those strong in and under mids. He's competing for a spot with the likes of JPK, K Jack, Hannebery, McVeigh, McGlynn etc.
Which is why he's not getting a game and guys like Bird, Rohan, Cunningham and Lloyd play over him - they offer different things to the team aside from contested ball winning (Swans already have that in JPK and K Jack) like pace, tagging ability and outside run.
So yes, I stand by my assertion he's only fringe 22 at the moment whereas Franklin is the best forward in the competition and in the Top few forwards for scoring ability. He started slow but only one game under 77 in his last 12 matches (15 counting finals).
Come on, even with Mitchell's age difference you're not going to convince me this would have been a fair deal.
Is there some kind of time after the trade period allowed to renegotiate rejected trades?? In other comps you atleast get a couple of days but mainly a week to renogiate them does that happen here?? I really don't care bout the Caddy one no more I won't be paying more for him but let's say I came into the same situation as the Buddy for Mitchell trade.... Yeah a lil unfair and prolly takes a Nat pick upgrade to make it even enough to pass so do we get a chance to do rectify it before the Nat trade period or is just ruled even and we have to do it next period??
Hope that makes sense :-\ :)
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on September 30, 2014, 07:45:42 PM
Hawaii Give: Nat 9 + Nat 11
Los Angeles Give: Nat 6 + Nat 19
Approved
Trade 44:*
Hawaii Give: Jack Billings + Nat 6 + Nat 19
Asuncion Give: Trent Cotchin + Simon Tunbridge + Rookie 22
Approved
Hey can I check on this one.
The National Draft thread currently has Roswell having Nat 19 not me.
Was there a mistake somewhere down the line?
You traded Nat 19 and Hartman to us for Nat 14 and Holman
Quote from: LF on November 18, 2014, 01:36:33 PM
You traded Nat 19 and Hartman to us for Nat 14 and Holman
^ lol
Quote from: LF on November 18, 2014, 01:36:33 PM
You traded Nat 19 and Hartman to us for Nat 14 and Holman
So we did haha.
Even better then!
I ran through every trade and so did FF to make sure all traded picks were correct at the end of trading. We believe the current lists are correct but encourage everyone to check to make sure. AFTER WE HAVE DRAFTED ALL PICKS WILL STAND. If anyone discovers a mistake after the draft has taken place it will not be changed.
Yeah we are all good picks are correct and team list is correct