Is 2014 Rocky better than 2012 Swan?

[pommyadam]

okay.....

in 2012, Dane Swan was a machine, averaging 133.55 per game
We thought no one would get close to that

in 2014, we find a new challenger, rival to his "pig" status, averaging more, but still a game to go
That man is Tom Rockliff

In order to beat Swan, he MUST score 112 vs Geelong
An easy task you say? Geelong have only given up 2 scores over that mark since rd17 - to Barlow 137 and Hoskin-Elliott 113
if he scores 111, then he fails

Which pig are you backing?

[GoLions]

He'll get it at half time

[Nige]

Gotta back Rocky in.

[RiOtChEsS]

he is better, that was peak Swan, Rockliff could average 150 based on the last 8 weeks

[Flame]

I'm backing Rocky in!

;D

[Mailman the 2nd]

Swan was better in 2012, only went under 100 once and that was because he got injured

[strikes91]

If he hadn't conceded the third most free kicks in the comp he'd be there.

[GoLions]

Swan was better in 2012, only went under 100 once and that was because he got injured

Swan rarely got tagged though (only 4 times in 2012 I think), whereas Rocky has been tagged a few extra times (about 7). Rocky has had only the 3 games under 100, and one of them he had a tagging role on Smitch, so you would've expected him to go 100+ easily in that considering he ended on 96. Also, Rocky is in a team getting beaten most weeks, whereas the Pies were dominating in 2012 which IMO helps a bit, especially when you have guys like Pendles and Beams feeding the ball to you.

[Mailman the 2nd]

Swan was better in 2012, only went under 100 once and that was because he got injured

Swan rarely got tagged though (only 4 times in 2012 I think), whereas Rocky has been tagged a few extra times (about 7). Rocky has had only the 3 games under 100, and one of them he had a tagging role on Smitch, so you would've expected him to go 100+ easily in that considering he ended on 96. Also, Rocky is in a team getting beaten most weeks, whereas the Pies were dominating in 2012 which IMO helps a bit, especially when you have guys like Pendles and Beams feeding the ball to you.

Swan was favorite for the Brownlow in 2012 as well. He was the best player in the competition in 2012. Rocky isn't.

[GoLions]

Swan was better in 2012, only went under 100 once and that was because he got injured

Swan rarely got tagged though (only 4 times in 2012 I think), whereas Rocky has been tagged a few extra times (about 7). Rocky has had only the 3 games under 100, and one of them he had a tagging role on Smitch, so you would've expected him to go 100+ easily in that considering he ended on 96. Also, Rocky is in a team getting beaten most weeks, whereas the Pies were dominating in 2012 which IMO helps a bit, especially when you have guys like Pendles and Beams feeding the ball to you.

Swan was favorite for the Brownlow in 2012 as well. He was the best player in the competition in 2012. Rocky isn't.

But let's be honest, if Rocky was playing for a team like the Hawks this year with this kind of output (and ignoring his suspension), he'd probably be a brownlow favourite as well.

[Mailman the 2nd]

Swan was better in 2012, only went under 100 once and that was because he got injured

Swan rarely got tagged though (only 4 times in 2012 I think), whereas Rocky has been tagged a few extra times (about 7). Rocky has had only the 3 games under 100, and one of them he had a tagging role on Smitch, so you would've expected him to go 100+ easily in that considering he ended on 96. Also, Rocky is in a team getting beaten most weeks, whereas the Pies were dominating in 2012 which IMO helps a bit, especially when you have guys like Pendles and Beams feeding the ball to you.

Swan was favorite for the Brownlow in 2012 as well. He was the best player in the competition in 2012. Rocky isn't.

But let's be honest, if Rocky was playing for a team like the Hawks this year with this kind of output (and ignoring his suspension), he'd probably be a brownlow favourite as well.

Its a hypothetical, but I'd still say no. Swan had a more consistent season. Rockcliff's has been back loaded a ton in the past 2 months

[Master Q]

Rocky. Imagine when Brisbane get average, his scores will increase by like 20 points  :P

[pommyadam]

I meant more for DT purposes when I set this poll

but anyway... raw figures:
Swan 2012: 18 games played, 17 tons, 14 over 110, 10 over 120, 9 over 130, 7 over 140, and 5 over 150, maximum of 187 and a standard deviation of 27.36, post-rd10 average of 141.7

Rocky 2014 (as of rd22): 18 games played, 15 tons, 14 over 110, 12 over 120, 11 over 130, 9 over 140, 7 over 150, maximum of 190, and a standard deviation of 33.89, post-rd10 average of 141.8

what can we say....
Swan's more likely to get you the ton (having failed on one occasion, and even then he made 95)
but Rocky's the better C option, passing 150 on 7 occassions

[nrich102]

He'll get it at quarter time.

[RiOtChEsS]

ppl love going off topic, clearly Rockliff better, bigger average, bigger potential :-X