AXVs: Official Discussion Thread

[Toga]

Not accusing you or wanting to create more work for you CW as after all you know what needs to be done, and how it needs to be done - you're the boss and I respect your decisions, as I'm sure everyone else does as well. :)

If it's too hard then no worries!


*BTW my comment about Nicholls not being on a list was just something interesting I thought others might think is funny! :P

[Nails]

IIRC for our proper draft we didn't have a list did we?

Just don't have a list of them just make them known as available or something. They should be available imo

We all know a decent % of players drafted in NAT Draft/Rookie draft NEVER EVER see AFL games

I don't see a reason to be forced to draft them when there's players not yet selected getting regular/decent AFL action.

[Adamant]

THE INITIAL DRAFT POOL

Defenders

307.Graham Johncock - 84.31
315.Jason Blake - 83.85
403.Matt Maguire - 75.56
405.Martin Mattner - 75.33
414.Campbell Brown - 74.84
416.Nathan Lovett-Murray - 74.76
426.Tom Logan - 73.58
451.Lewis Roberts-Thompson - 71.16
474.Cameron Delaney - 69.00
478.Andrew McInnes - 68.38
479.Darren Glass - 68.20
489.Michael Jamison - 67.50
495.Joel Patfull - 66.77
508.Tom Lonergan - 65.43
511.Eric Mackenzie - 65.00
524.Stephen Wrigley - 63.67
537.Simon White - 62.00
540.Ben Rutten  - 61.23
545.Stepham Gilham - 60.00
553.Matthew warnock - 58.91
554.Matthew Dea 58.64
556.Andrejs Everitt - 58.25
559.Luke Delaney - 58.08
565.Gerald Ugle - 57.00
567.Alipate Carlile - 56.55
573.Jayden Post (FWD) - 56.12
574.Jacob Townsend - 55.82
575.Lukas Markovic - 55.56
582.Niall McKeever - 54.33
584.Mark Austin - 54.18
587.Tom Young - 53.43
594.Kyle Cheney - 52.50
599.Nathan J.Brown - 52.00
602.Rhys O'Keeffe - 51.50
605.David Astbury - 50.50
606.Jeremy Taylor - 50.00
607.Shaum McKernan (FWD) -49.83
613.Joel Wilkinson - 48.33
617.Luke Thompson - 47.00
621.Patrick McCarthy - 46.00
625.Zac Dawson - 44.44
633.Cameron O'Shea - 41.75
643.Mitchell J.Brown - 38.88
651.Peter Yagmoor - 34.50
657.Marcus Davies - 29.00
658.Nathan Blee - 28.25
669.Jayden Pitt - 21.00

Justin Clarke
Richard Newell [MID]
Michael Hartley
Luke Davis
Hal Hunter
Peter Faulks
Jack Hutchins
Henry Schade
Jed Bews
Andrew Boseley
Jordan Kelly
Will Langford
Angus Litherland
Troy Davis
Will Sierakowski
Nick Salter
Ben Darrou
John Heslin
Steven Verrier
Jackson Ferguson [FWD]
Jimmy Webster
Nick Winmar
Alex Brown
Campbell Heath
Jordan Lockyer
Dale Morris
Jack Redpath [FWD]
Simon Tunbridge [FWD]
Blayne Wilson

Midfielders

329.Ben Johnson - 82.40
396.Aaron Davey - 76.00
494.Levi Greenwood - 66.80
526.Neville Jetta - 63.33
535.Jackson Sherringham - 62.20
541.Sam J.Reid - 61.20
549.Cameron Sutcliffe - 59.25
566.Matt White - 56.71
604.Jonathon Simpkin - 50.67
614.Daniel Pearce - 47.60
627.Jesse O'Brien - 43.50
641.Sam Schulz - 40.00
647.Bradley Helbig 37.00
654.Frazer Dale - 31.50
667.Caolon Mooney - 22.00

Cameron Ellis-Yolmen
Sam Martyn
Callum Bartlett
Dylan Buckley
Josh Thomas
Mark Blicavs
Josh Cowan
Taylor Duryea
Mitch Hallahan
Michael Evans
Rory Taggert
Max Warren
Thomas Curren
Shane Biggs
Alex Greenwood
Lewis Stevenson
Danny Butcher

Ruckmen

281.Angus Graham - 87.00
637.Jack Fitzpatrick - 41.00

James Craig
Ben Dowdell
Sam Michael
Corey Gault
Thomas Nicholls
Ryan Bathie
Tom Downie
Sam Grimley
Luke Lowden
Jordan Staley[FWD]
Jay Lever [DEF]

Forwards

336. Kepler Bradley - 81.91
392. Justin Koschitzke - 76.95
453. Jesse White - 71.00
471. Patrick Vespremi - 69.25
492. Daniel Stewart - 67.00
517. Lachlen Keeffe - 64.22
544. Josh Bruce - 60.33
560. Luke Mitchell - 58.00
569. Jacob Gillbee - 56.50
571. Mitchell Brown - 56.33
580. Aaron Black - 55.00
589. Fletcher Roberts - 53.00
601. Setanta O'halpin - 52.00
608. Jack Anthony - 49.50
610. Nathan Wilson - 48.67
636. Ben Griffiths - 41.33
656. Lincoln McCarthy - 31.00

Dylan Orval
Sam Menegola
Haiden Schloithe[MID] 
Ben Newton
Darren Minchington
Cameron Shenton[MID]
Matthew Spangher
Jeremy  McGovern
Brad Dick
Kelvin Lawrence
George Burbury
Josh Growden[MID]
Amos Frank
Patrick Wearden[MID]


THE NATIONAL DRAFT POOL

MINI DRAFT  / PRELISTED

*Eric Wallace
*Ciaran Killkenny
*Gideon Simon
*Jack Osborn
*Tim Claosen

NATIONAL DRAFT

39 Fremantle - Max Duffy
44 Sydney Swans - Harrison Marsh
47 North Melbourne - Mitchell Wilkins
51 Essendon - Dylan Van Unen
53 Essendon - Martin Gleeson
55 Gold Coast Suns - Tim Sumner
59 West Coast Eagles - Adam Carter
62 Adelaide - Sam Siggins
64 Sydney Swans - Matthew Dick
66 Hawthorn - Kaiden Brand
70 Hawthorn - 501. Michael Osborne - 66.14
72 Melbourne - Michael Evans
73 Essendon - Nicholas Kommer
75 St Kilda - Lewis Pierce
79 West Coast Eagles - Brad Dick
88 Essendon - Sean Gregory
99 Brisbane Lions - Niall McKeever

[Nails]

Man we left some guns on there.

[Colliwobblers]

ok we will vote on it.

as i said i am happy to put how we do it to a vote.

part of drafting is picking the right players as it is in the AFL, if you draft a spud - even if that spud was a high draft pick thats a fail, and it happens in the AFL.

I am for allowing this in the rookie/ preseason draft - as it feels right to me to be picking existing older players in that draft, but i think the national draft should be ONLY for what it is for - U18 talent. ONLY>

I will monitor the list and the delistings and retirements over the off season if we decide to include these existing players in either of or both of our drafts for next season.

it won't be that hard, it was just hard the first season i suppose next season will be easier....

anyway it will go to the vote. same as byes trades a few other rule points which have come up, and anything else which is raised by the end of the season.

if we can improve or make the comp better in the opinion of the majority of coaches we will naturally make the changes.

My main desire however is to try to make our competition as AFL - LIFE - LIKE as possible. I would like owning a team in the AXVS to be as close as possible to running a real AFL club... the list anyway...

[Justin Bieber]

I really wish I took Nicholls :( bi picked him up in British... And that is why I brought it up as I need a player  to play ruckbthis week :(

Yeah I agree that some players should be allowed to be selected next year and should not be invisible. All these players should be able to be picked up in the rookie draft.

[BB67th]

Definitely should be able to pick up those players who weren't selected. Doesn't make sense if they just go to waste and can never be picked. I personally think that they should be able to be selected in any draft. This is as if say Nicholls becomes an absolute gun this year, suddenly the rookie 1 pick becomes more valuable than the NAT 1 pick. I don't think it should be that way. You are the coach and you should be able to pick who you draft and when.

[Colliwobblers]

Definitely should be able to pick up those players who weren't selected. Doesn't make sense if they just go to waste and can never be picked. I personally think that they should be able to be selected in any draft. This is as if say Nicholls becomes an absolute gun this year, suddenly the rookie 1 pick becomes more valuable than the NAT 1 pick. I don't think it should be that way. You are the coach and you should be able to pick who you draft and when.

i get what you are saying but that is NOT how the AFL works.... the AFL teams can't just use national draft picks to pick up ANY PLAYERS other than the elligible national draft players.....

And it makes no difference either as the draft order for national and rookie/preseason in AXVS is the SAME in all future seasons, so the bottom team with pick #1 has it in the national draft and the rookie/preseason draft.

[Justin Bieber]

Definitely should be able to pick up those players who weren't selected. Doesn't make sense if they just go to waste and can never be picked. I personally think that they should be able to be selected in any draft. This is as if say Nicholls becomes an absolute gun this year, suddenly the rookie 1 pick becomes more valuable than the NAT 1 pick. I don't think it should be that way. You are the coach and you should be able to pick who you draft and when.

i get what you are saying but that is NOT how the AFL works.... the AFL teams can't just use national draft picks to pick up ANY PLAYERS other than the elligible national draft players.....

And it makes no difference either as the draft order for national and rookie/preseason in AXVS is the SAME in all future seasons, so the bottom team with pick #1 has it in the national draft and the rookie/preseason draft.

If you want to be more like the AFL, than the AFL can pick up players who's not currently in AFL through rookie draft... so we can pick up these players through the rookie draft?

[Colliwobblers]

that's what i am thinking Whatlez, yes, bt in the end we will come up with a few options and vote.

[Justin Bieber]

that's what i am thinking Whatlez, yes, bt in the end we will come up with a few options and vote.

The vote will be one sided.

[Justin Bieber]

Nails btw, Chad Cornes out for the year hahaha

[Nails]

flower asians is such a dick

He was a gun defender last year too

Lost our 3rd and 4th best defenders after the draft

No Gram, no Chad Cornes

no flowering luck.

[Jay]

Bet you're regretting this trade Nails?

Strikers give: Scotland, ROOKIE pick 19 (Nathan Stark). Strikers get: Thompson (N.M), NAT pick 48 (Dean Terlich)

[Nails]

It's not really that bad, seeing as who got who is kinda irrelevant. Scotland could turn it around and get us into the finals and make it all worth it.

Although Thompson has been better than I would have liked. (except for Worlds)