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« Reply #30 on: February 28, 2021, 01:34:04 pm »

Wehr played in the 2s today.

Lachlan Jones played in the 1s, and by all accounts looked like he belonged.

I have Hayden Young F6, with Cox and Jones on the bench.

Am I the only one who believes the defensive Rookies arenít there? (Theyíre there in talent, but not job security).

Is everyone still confident starting with 1, 2, or 3 defensive Rookies on the field?

Usually, Iím on the same page as the everyone... but maybe my radar is off this year??

 ;)

Hate to jinx you Colley, but at this point of time I am in full agreement with you. My current defence is:-
Lloyd,  Laird,  C Mills,  L Duggan,  H Young,  L Jones  //  T Highmore,  J Wehr
Have a much weakened forward line. But as a positive only have L Jones, T Powell and O Henry or J Rowe on the field , so only 3 playing rookies. Something to work back from if our worst nightmares don't come to fruition. Like you I would rather work back to Gun' n rookies than vice versa

 ::)
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« Reply #31 on: March 01, 2021, 10:17:30 pm »

Wehr played in the 2s today.

Lachlan Jones played in the 1s, and by all accounts looked like he belonged.

I have Hayden Young F6, with Cox and Jones on the bench.

Am I the only one who believes the defensive Rookies arenít there? (Theyíre there in talent, but not job security).

Is everyone still confident starting with 1, 2, or 3 defensive Rookies on the field?

Usually, Iím on the same page as the everyone... but maybe my radar is off this year??

 ;)

Hate to jinx you Colley, but at this point of time I am in full agreement with you. My current defence is:-
Lloyd,  Laird,  C Mills,  L Duggan,  H Young,  L Jones  //  T Highmore,  J Wehr
Have a much weakened forward line. But as a positive only have L Jones, T Powell and O Henry or J Rowe on the field , so only 3 playing rookies. Something to work back from if our worst nightmares don't come to fruition. Like you I would rather work back to Gun' n rookies than vice versa

 ::)

Actually relieved to see a little consensus regarding the defensive rookies.

Iím still one step further along than most... with Hayden Young at D6, and Jones at D7.

But I feel a whole lot better about my reading of the situation. I thought I was going crazy.

As you say ST... easy to back out of this into GnR if 3+ are named. But I donít see it.

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« Reply #32 on: March 01, 2021, 10:23:37 pm »

Wehr played in the 2s today.

Lachlan Jones played in the 1s, and by all accounts looked like he belonged.

I have Hayden Young F6, with Cox and Jones on the bench.

Am I the only one who believes the defensive Rookies arenít there? (Theyíre there in talent, but not job security).

Is everyone still confident starting with 1, 2, or 3 defensive Rookies on the field?

Usually, Iím on the same page as the everyone... but maybe my radar is off this year??

 ;)

Hate to jinx you Colley, but at this point of time I am in full agreement with you. My current defence is:-
Lloyd,  Laird,  C Mills,  L Duggan,  H Young,  L Jones  //  T Highmore,  J Wehr
Have a much weakened forward line. But as a positive only have L Jones, T Powell and O Henry or J Rowe on the field , so only 3 playing rookies. Something to work back from if our worst nightmares don't come to fruition. Like you I would rather work back to Gun' n rookies than vice versa

 ::)

Actually relieved to see a little consensus regarding the defensive rookies.

Iím still one step further along than most... with Hayden Young at D6, and Jones at D7.

But I feel a whole lot better about my reading of the situation. I thought I was going crazy.

As you say ST... easy to back out of this into GnR if 3+ are named. But I donít see it.

 :)
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« Reply #33 on: March 01, 2021, 11:53:55 pm »

As of today, the only def rookies that seem to be somewhat of a remote chance imo are Jones and Highmore, and even that's a stretch

Let's hope that some of Edwards, Bianco, Gould, Wehr etc get named. Either way, for now, I think we need to look at the possibility of having Jones D6, and someone like Hayden Young at D5. Not ideal at all, but we can't be too surprised with most new rookies not playing last year which in turn limits their chances of an early debut

Stacked def and super light fwd line looking likely

You're slipping RD. Cox is a shoe in to play round 1 and the perfect D6.
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« Reply #34 on: March 01, 2021, 11:58:26 pm »

Forward and back rookies seem solid enough, but to me, at this stage, midfield rookies is slim pickings

LOL.

Not sure if you're serious.
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« Reply #35 on: March 02, 2021, 04:30:04 am »

Lloyd Laird Mills Short Duggen Cox Kotsch Highmore current setup. Feels crazy.
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« Reply #36 on: March 02, 2021, 08:02:34 am »

As of today, the only def rookies that seem to be somewhat of a remote chance imo are Jones and Highmore, and even that's a stretch

Let's hope that some of Edwards, Bianco, Gould, Wehr etc get named. Either way, for now, I think we need to look at the possibility of having Jones D6, and someone like Hayden Young at D5. Not ideal at all, but we can't be too surprised with most new rookies not playing last year which in turn limits their chances of an early debut

Stacked def and super light fwd line looking likely

You're slipping RD. Cox is a shoe in to play round 1 and the perfect D6.

Haha, yeah by all reports he is a lock to play, but 170k+ for a guy who probably won't score well isn't exactly appealing to me, which is why I didn't even mention him, but we might not have a choice and he could be a forced selection

Other than Rowell and Walsh, I can't think of any other recent expensive rookies that actually turned out to be good picks, which is why I try to avoid them at all costs
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« Reply #37 on: March 02, 2021, 10:04:58 am »

Forward and back rookies seem solid enough, but to me, at this stage, midfield rookies is slim pickings

LOL.

Not sure if you're serious.

Couldnít be more serious

Rookies also inclusive of 200k cows (Daniher and Impey etc)
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« Reply #38 on: March 02, 2021, 11:23:30 am »

Forward and back rookies seem solid enough, but to me, at this stage, midfield rookies is slim pickings

LOL.

Not sure if you're serious.

Couldnít be more serious

Rookies also inclusive of 200k cows (Daniher and Impey etc)

Daniher and Impey are excellent Rookie priced players.

Can you please tell me two equally excellent Defensive Rookies??
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« Reply #39 on: March 02, 2021, 11:59:54 am »

Forward and back rookies seem solid enough, but to me, at this stage, midfield rookies is slim pickings

LOL.

Not sure if you're serious.

Couldnít be more serious

Rookies also inclusive of 200k cows (Daniher and Impey etc)

Daniher and Impey are excellent Rookie priced players.

Can you please tell me two equally excellent Defensive Rookies??
Clark and Hamill. If the defensive rookies are that much of a worry use your non playing loophole player in defence that's one less you have to worry about.
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« Reply #40 on: March 02, 2021, 12:20:27 pm »

Forward and back rookies seem solid enough, but to me, at this stage, midfield rookies is slim pickings

LOL.

Not sure if you're serious.

Couldnít be more serious

Rookies also inclusive of 200k cows (Daniher and Impey etc)

Daniher and Impey are excellent Rookie priced players.

Can you please tell me two equally excellent Defensive Rookies??

There likely isnít any defensive options that will be AS GOOD as Daniher (if he stays fit) and Impey but Young, Cox and Highmore each look to present pretty damn good value atm.

I just donít see it in the midfield rookies. The high midfield draft picks this season (Phillips, Hollands, Perkins etc.) represent more risk than years gone by - due to no top aged under 18 exposed form. There isnít as many notable mature aged state league rookie midfielders that look like they will be walk in best 22 players either, unlike in previous seasons.

I just think the midfield rookie priced players are really thin. We will know more by the end of the pre-season games, but this is just my initial thoughts. Iíve seen some teams on here and my structure is completely different, I currently have H. Young at d3 and Iím more than comfortable with that. He may move out to d4 by the time round 1 rolls around, but as of now Iím quite happy to go VERY lean in defense, trusting in the rookies. Every year the defensive premiums change massively a compared to other lines, I donít want to be stuck with players like Laird, Stewart, Mills or Haynes when some other up and comers like Clark, Coffield or Duggan etc. may go past them as top 6 defenders.
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« Reply #41 on: March 02, 2021, 12:30:18 pm »

As of today, the only def rookies that seem to be somewhat of a remote chance imo are Jones and Highmore, and even that's a stretch

Let's hope that some of Edwards, Bianco, Gould, Wehr etc get named. Either way, for now, I think we need to look at the possibility of having Jones D6, and someone like Hayden Young at D5. Not ideal at all, but we can't be too surprised with most new rookies not playing last year which in turn limits their chances of an early debut

Stacked def and super light fwd line looking likely

You're slipping RD. Cox is a shoe in to play round 1 and the perfect D6.

Haha, yeah by all reports he is a lock to play, but 170k+ for a guy who probably won't score well isn't exactly appealing to me, which is why I didn't even mention him, but we might not have a choice and he could be a forced selection

Other than Rowell and Walsh, I can't think of any other recent expensive rookies that actually turned out to be good picks, which is why I try to avoid them at all costs

What about Bailey Smith, Serong, Rozee
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« Reply #42 on: March 02, 2021, 12:34:33 pm »

As of today, the only def rookies that seem to be somewhat of a remote chance imo are Jones and Highmore, and even that's a stretch

Let's hope that some of Edwards, Bianco, Gould, Wehr etc get named. Either way, for now, I think we need to look at the possibility of having Jones D6, and someone like Hayden Young at D5. Not ideal at all, but we can't be too surprised with most new rookies not playing last year which in turn limits their chances of an early debut

Stacked def and super light fwd line looking likely

Sorry, couldnít disagree more
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« Reply #43 on: March 02, 2021, 12:34:43 pm »

Forward and back rookies seem solid enough, but to me, at this stage, midfield rookies is slim pickings

LOL.

Not sure if you're serious.

Couldnít be more serious

Rookies also inclusive of 200k cows (Daniher and Impey etc)

Daniher and Impey are excellent Rookie priced players.

Can you please tell me two equally excellent Defensive Rookies??

There likely isnít any that defensive options that will be as good as Daniher (if he stays fit) and Impey but Young, Wehr and Highmore look to present pretty damn good value atm.

I just donít see it in the midfield rookies. The high midfield draft picks this season (Phillips, Hollands, Perkins etc.) represent more risk than years gone by due to no top age under 18 exposed form. There isnít as many notable mature aged state league rookie midfielders that look like they will be walk in best 22 players.

I just think the midfield rookie priced players are really thin. We will know more by the end of the pre-season games, but this is just my initial thoughts.

Agree with you about the Midfield Rookies... but less confident about the defensive Rookies.

Of the three you named, Young is the only one with job security at the moment (Iím assuming you mean Northís Young, and not Freoís young). If Wehr, Highmore, Jones, Gould start, they offer great value. But I donít see them being named. And if theyíre named, Iím predicting omissions soon after. Can definitely see a revolving door scenario down back, which is a Supercoach nightmare.

Iím therefore running with Harmes at D5 & Hayden Young at D6, with Jones & Wehr on the bench.

In the mids, Iím running with two on-field Rookies. Along with the bench, here are my current five:

Ralphsmith; Gulden; Campbell; Powell; Ely Smith
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« Reply #44 on: March 02, 2021, 01:07:11 pm »

Forward and back rookies seem solid enough, but to me, at this stage, midfield rookies is slim pickings

LOL.

Not sure if you're serious.

Couldnít be more serious

Rookies also inclusive of 200k cows (Daniher and Impey etc)

Daniher and Impey are excellent Rookie priced players.

Can you please tell me two equally excellent Defensive Rookies??

There likely isnít any that defensive options that will be as good as Daniher (if he stays fit) and Impey but Young, Wehr and Highmore look to present pretty damn good value atm.

I just donít see it in the midfield rookies. The high midfield draft picks this season (Phillips, Hollands, Perkins etc.) represent more risk than years gone by due to no top age under 18 exposed form. There isnít as many notable mature aged state league rookie midfielders that look like they will be walk in best 22 players.

I just think the midfield rookie priced players are really thin. We will know more by the end of the pre-season games, but this is just my initial thoughts.

Agree with you about the Midfield Rookies... but less confident about the defensive Rookies.

Of the three you named, Young is the only one with job security at the moment (Iím assuming you mean Northís Young, and not Freoís young). If Wehr, Highmore, Jones, Gould start, they offer great value. But I donít see them being named. And if theyíre named, Iím predicting omissions soon after. Can definitely see a revolving door scenario down back, which is a Supercoach nightmare.

Iím therefore running with Harmes at D5 & Hayden Young at D6, with Jones & Wehr on the bench.

In the mids, Iím running with two on-field Rookies. Along with the bench, here are my current five:

Ralphsmith; Gulden; Campbell; Powell; Ely Smith

I meant Hayden from Freo but both fit the argument I guess

Iím a Saints fan and Iím predicting Highmore to play very early and play well. Heís going to be very similar to Calum Wilkie and Iíd have 22 of him in our team.
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