C-19 Strategy changes

Started by Pokerface, March 16, 2020, 05:15:26 PM

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RoughRed

Quote from: jfitty on March 18, 2020, 09:38:28 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on March 18, 2020, 09:07:50 PM
With 16 min quarters does this make any players more viable?

Nic Nat comes to mind for me.

Or does Naitanui still only play 60% of the shortened game?

OR how will he go if they have to play 2 games in a week.

So much to consider
My understanding is that NN TOG is just that ... a set number of minutes on ground followed by set number off
With a compressed game time IMO his TOG will be determined by the the recovery time that they have allowed in his overall match management. Unless the breaks at Q1- Half- and Q3-times are reduced I believe NN %TOG will increase especially in the 2nd half of matches
Just my thoughts :)

Samsturmfels

Quote from: RoughRed on March 18, 2020, 10:52:49 PM
Quote from: jfitty on March 18, 2020, 09:38:28 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on March 18, 2020, 09:07:50 PM
With 16 min quarters does this make any players more viable?

Nic Nat comes to mind for me.

Or does Naitanui still only play 60% of the shortened game?

OR how will he go if they have to play 2 games in a week.

So much to consider
My understanding is that NN TOG is just that ... a set number of minutes on ground followed by set number off
With a compressed game time IMO his TOG will be determined by the the recovery time that they have allowed in his overall match management. Unless the breaks at Q1- Half- and Q3-times are reduced I believe NN %TOG will increase especially in the 2nd half of matches
Just my thoughts :)
yeah i have a similar view. I cant see Nic Nat playing less minutes than he usually does as he is so crucial to the team. Although i do worry about his injury risk and his sc scoring ceiling when compared to Gawn

eaglesman

seeking opinions

1. Less overall game time means less chip to chip in defense? Thinking lloyd types are a no go

2. Prem mids that Rest forward rather than bench? Appeal ... thinking coniglio is a go. And lessens appeal of say a macrae.

3. No chance you pay up for Gawn now.?

Any other questions



tkringle

Cooling on Ceglar a bit now. Not sure ruck cover is needed with the abundance of trades?

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: eaglesman on March 19, 2020, 12:35:10 AM
seeking opinions

1. Less overall game time means less chip to chip in defense? Thinking lloyd types are a no go

2. Prem mids that Rest forward rather than bench? Appeal ... thinking coniglio is a go. And lessens appeal of say a macrae.

3. No chance you pay up for Gawn now.?

Any other questions

I don't think 4 minutes shaved off each qtr is going to change much, other than TOG for some players. If teams need to chip around they'll still do that - clubs are going to throw out their game plan just because there's 4 mins less per qtr I would have thought

I can't see any reason why Macrae, or any other elite mid is going to have reduced TOG now. SC points will still be 3300, so if anything the guns will just scale up more

How is Gawn impacted at all?

Quote from: tkringle on March 19, 2020, 12:46:26 AM
Cooling on Ceglar a bit now. Not sure ruck cover is needed with the abundance of trades?

Ruck cover isn't as crucial now it seems, but I'm still going with Ceglar because with Steven now out too there's bugger all forwards I am really comfortable starting, but I reckon Ceglar is priced well, should increase his avg as #1 ruck, and the cover is still handy

We have heaps of trades, but if i can avoid using 2 trades on trading out a ruck then straight back in once they return, that's a win. Who know's, at that particular time you might be wishing you could use your 2 trades that week on other things, instead of being forced to avoid a ruck donut

IntegralX

Had gone off GG but after the news of 2 round price moves instead of 3 I've reverted back to my original team featuring GG. Not concerned anymore.

Colley Dogs

#51
Something to consider, as we polish our teams.

Gill M talking about the season in terms of games rather than rounds i.e. a '173 game journey' rather than a 17 round season.

Things will remain normal until first lock down. After that it will become ad hoc. We won't be able to define what a 'Round' is anymore. As an example, if there's a shut down in Victoria, they may play the interstate teams in a given week, and vice versa. Consequently, to catch up you might have two teams playing twice when another doesn't play at all. At the end of the season, there's likely to be teams that have finished their allotment of 17 games, when others still have 1-2 games to catch up etc. etc.

It's impossible to play this dynamically with a cap (unlike Fantasy Premier League soccer, where you have a free trade every week, and wildcards, and free hits and so forth).

However, I think it would be wise to spread our risk regionally.

E.g.

All pre-season I've wanted two Bulldogs premium mids (Macrae and Bont). Now I'm thinking of running with Fyfe - Neale - Danger - Bont - Coniglio so I have better geographic spread.

I'm going to apply this to each of my lines, and across Premiums - mid pricers - Rookies. But... only where the call is marginal. For example, Sicily - Houston rather than Laird - Houston, or Laird - Sicily. But Laird - Stewart - Docherty better. You get the point.

Definitely worth considering for head-to-head.

With overall, I think it can offer an advantage. If you're able to save those extra trades, and not spend them too aggressively on early season corrections, you can potentially step off premiums that finish the season early, or onto premiums that have two games in a week, at the back end of the year.

Probably I'm overthinking it... which is fine. I love hunting around for tiny edges.

Anyway, something a little left field to think about as we countdown.

:)


Mahogany

Quote from: Colley Dogs on March 19, 2020, 01:47:44 PM
Something to consider, as we polish our teams.

Gill M talking about the season in terms of games rather than rounds i.e. a '173 game journey' rather than a 17 round season.

Things will remain normal until first lock down. After that it will become ad hoc. We won't be able to define what a 'Round' is anymore. As an example, if there's a shut down in Victoria, they may play the interstate teams in a given week, and vice versa. Consequently, to catch up you might have two teams playing twice when another doesn't play at all. At the end of the season, there's likely to be teams that have finished their allotment of 17 games, when others still have 1-2 games to catch up etc. etc.

It's impossible to play this dynamically with a cap (unlike Fantasy Premier League soccer, where you have a free trade every week, and wildcards, and free hits and so forth).

However, I think it would be wise to spread our risk regionally.

E.g.

All pre-season I've wanted two Bulldogs premium mids (Macrae and Bont). Now I'm thinking of running with Fyfe - Neale - Danger - Bont - Coniglio so I have better geographic spread.

I'm going to apply this to each of my lines, and across Premiums - mid pricers - Rookies. But... only where the call is marginal. For example, Sicily - Houston rather than Laird - Houston, or Laird - Sicily. But Laird - Stewart - Docherty better. You get the point.

Definitely worth considering for head-to-head.

With overall, I think it can offer an advantage. If you're able to save those extra trades, and not spend them too aggressively on early season corrections, you can potentially step off premiums that finish the season early, or onto premiums that have two games in a week, at the back end of the year.

Probably I'm overthinking it... which is fine. I love hunting around for tiny edges.

Anyway, something a little left field to think about as we countdown.

:)

I was under the impression that the second anyone at clubland is diagnosed with C19, the whole comp immediately shuts down for 14 days. Doesn’t matter where you are or which state you are in. The whole AFL gets shutdown for minimum 14 days?

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: Mahogany on March 19, 2020, 07:02:04 PM
I was under the impression that the second anyone at clubland is diagnosed with C19, the whole comp immediately shuts down for 14 days. Doesn’t matter where you are or which state you are in. The whole AFL gets shutdown for minimum 14 days?

Correct

Can't have the comp running when a team is out

frenzy

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 19, 2020, 07:07:05 PM
Quote from: Mahogany on March 19, 2020, 07:02:04 PM
I was under the impression that the second anyone at clubland is diagnosed with C19, the whole comp immediately shuts down for 14 days. Doesn’t matter where you are or which state you are in. The whole AFL gets shutdown for minimum 14 days?

Correct

Can't have the comp running when a team is out

Jerrod Whateley on SEN had a different view of this this morning. He thinks teams could finish weeks before other's and the AFL could shut down states whilst the others kept playing.

no eye deer

I’m starting to contemplate Macrae to Bont now. Shorter quarters will mean less possessions for Macrae vs impact type players like Bont and Bonts scaling is already through the roof. Should only increase. Saves a few dollars as well.

tkringle

Quote from: no eye deer on March 19, 2020, 07:38:56 PM
I’m starting to contemplate Macrae to Bont now. Shorter quarters will mean less possessions for Macrae vs impact type players like Bont and Bonts scaling is already through the roof. Should only increase. Saves a few dollars as well.

Hadn’t considered it but yeah it’s a good point. Those that rely on high possessions to get big scores may drop a bit.

Both Titch and Neale rely on high possessions. Hmmm

Wanderer

Quote from: tkringle on March 19, 2020, 08:37:10 PM
Quote from: no eye deer on March 19, 2020, 07:38:56 PM
I’m starting to contemplate Macrae to Bont now. Shorter quarters will mean less possessions for Macrae vs impact type players like Bont and Bonts scaling is already through the roof. Should only increase. Saves a few dollars as well.

Hadn’t considered it but yeah it’s a good point. Those that rely on high possessions to get big scores may drop a bit.

Both Titch and Neale rely on high possessions. Hmmm
The guys that can find the pill will be even more valuable in lessened game time you would think

LordSneeze

Quote from: Wanderer on March 19, 2020, 08:40:27 PM
Quote from: tkringle on March 19, 2020, 08:37:10 PM
Quote from: no eye deer on March 19, 2020, 07:38:56 PM
I’m starting to contemplate Macrae to Bont now. Shorter quarters will mean less possessions for Macrae vs impact type players like Bont and Bonts scaling is already through the roof. Should only increase. Saves a few dollars as well.

Hadn’t considered it but yeah it’s a good point. Those that rely on high possessions to get big scores may drop a bit.

Both Titch and Neale rely on high possessions. Hmmm
The guys that can find the pill will be even more valuable in lessened game time you would think
Only if they are effective with it.

RaisyDaisy

Via Freako

SuperCoach points measure a player's relative impact on a match rather than a sum of their actions. SC points will, therefore, continue to add up to 3300 per match. Despite shortened quarters, individual player scoring will be similar to last year.