Adelaide Off-Field 2019

[Mat0369]

They will likely get it done for the priority pick we get. Only other thing I see happening is a three way trade with GC.

We get Gov and pick 2 or 3 (likely 3) and GC's 2nd round pick
Adelaide get pick 1
GC get Adelaide's first this year, Dees first, our PP which will probably be pick 20 (pre academy picks)

I think that works out for points. We might have to throw in the Dogs 2nd rounder. It gives GC some ammunition to trade some mature age recruits without compromising their draft position.

[TomK]

They will likely get it done for the priority pick we get. Only other thing I see happening is a three way trade with GC.

We get Gov and pick 2 or 3 (likely 3) and GC's 2nd round pick
Adelaide get pick 1
GC get Adelaide's first this year, Dees first, our PP which will probably be pick 20 (pre academy picks)

I think that works out for points. We might have to throw in the Dogs 2nd rounder. It gives GC some ammunition to trade some mature age recruits without compromising their draft position.

So Carlton get: Gov, Pick 3, GC 2nd
Carlton give: Pick 1, Pick 20

lmao

[Mat0369]

It ain't pick 20 back from GC. You have 3 compo/priority picks at the minimum there. It's basically this

Carlton trade pick 20 for Gov

Adelaide trade 20, 8 and 15 for pick 1.

Carlton trade 20, 8 and 15 for pick 3 and likely pick 25-28 (due to compensation picks. Why would we trade our entire haul for 1 for pick 3 and nothing? Crows would be delusional if they think they're getting more than our PP for McGovern

[TomK]

20 for Gov? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Jay]

20 for Gov? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Carlton fans last off-season: "Gibbs is a contracted player so if you aren't willing to pay up then he stays. Two first rounders or nothing"

Calron fans this off-season: "Yeah McGovern for about pick 20 should get it done"

[Torpedo10]

20 for Gov? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Carlton fans last off-season: "Gibbs is a contracted player so if you aren't willing to pay up then he stays. Two first rounders or nothing"

Calron fans this off-season: "Yeah McGovern for about pick 20 should get it done"

I'm not really sure McGovern is anywhere near the equivalent to what Gibbs was, but if you say so.  :-X

[Rusty00]

Kind of humorous that we get Adelaide and Carlton fans arguing of trade values for the 3rd year in a row ;D

[jvalles69]

Mitch has done jack shower to demand big money.  Jeremy got big money because there was demand for a defender like him, Mitch is a more "common" player who has played a handful of good games. Supply and demand.

[Money Shot]

Carlton Recieve: McGovern, Pick 7 and 14
Adelaide Recieve: Pick 1, 24 and 25

I think we need to give up pick 1 for Gov but think we will get a swap of picks going our way.

I think its pretty fair for both but I am probably biased.

[lachie_001]

I think uncontracted Mitch is worth around Pick 14 alone but since he is contracted I’d value him at pick 8. Similar to Charlie last year where Brisbane paid up pick 12 instead of pick 19 as he was contracted.

[Mat0369]

Carlton fans last off-season: "Gibbs is a contracted player so if you aren't willing to pay up then he stays. Two first rounders or nothing"

Calron fans this off-season: "Yeah McGovern for about pick 20 should get it done"

I'm not really sure McGovern is anywhere near the equivalent to what Gibbs was, but if you say so.  :-X

This. It's also two different situations. Bryce requested the trade to go home but was happy at the Blues. McGovern is disgruntled with the Crows organisation. You also look at the trade for Bryce in the end and you ended up with our 2nd round pick in this draft along with our 3rd. You guys sent your second this year thinking it would be closer to the back end than the front

Breaking down the numbers, Carlton received 10, 16 and approx 30 = 3091 draft value points (equivalent to pick 1)

Had it been pick 42 = 2857 which is between 1 and 2.

In return Adelaide received approx 24  and 43 = 1163. This works out to pick 14.

Total sum is that Carlton received the value of pick 5 for Gibbs instead of pick 7.

I think the main thing here is Adelaide want pick 1 more than Carlton want Gov. Our need is midfielders right now. We already have two young KPF's in Curnow and McKay. If we use pick one it's going to be for the best mid in this draft. We're going to need a huge offer to pry it away and it's going to cost a boatload to get it done. The Crows are desperate to get Lukosius so they will have to pay up. The only way they can guarantee it is to move to 1. To move up from 7 to 2 GWS had to trade Cam McCarthy (who they wanted a first for at the time since he was rated that highly at that point), pick 7, pick 34 and a throwaway. So their first, second and a player to move up to 3. They then traded pick 3 and 16 for 2, 31, 51 and 60.

So that's a total accumulation of the following

Out: McCarthy (pick 18 to make it a first), pick 7, pick 16 and pick 34

In: Pick 2, 31, 51 and 60

So that's a total of 4238 points out and 3528 in. They paid the equivalent of pick 27 extra to get the deal done. It would cost more to move up to 1, probably the equivalent of pick 18-20 in the draft.

So if the deal was pick 8, pick 15 and Gov to get pick 1 and the Blues 3rd next year the Crows are making out pretty well. Even if you think Gov is worth pick 10 (which he's not) I think it works out to giving up pick 30 extra to get the deal done. Carlton likely repackage to move back up and send 8, 15 and 22? (does Polec compo supersede the priority pick) for pick 3 and 26ish. So that's 3508 points out for the Blues and 2963 in. So basically pick 34 bonus to GC to get the deal done.

[TomK]

I think the main thing here is Adelaide want pick 1 more than Carlton want Gov. Our need is midfielders right now. We already have two young KPF's in Curnow and McKay. If we use pick one it's going to be for the best mid in this draft.

Why are you offering him 700k+ then? ::)

and that's a whole lot of working out for nothing lol

[Mat0369]

Because we can? If we're trading pick 1 it's going to be in a trade involving Shiel

[TomK]

Because we can? If we're trading pick 1 it's going to be in a trade involving Shiel

aight cheers sos, nice chatting

[Money Shot]

Because we can? If we're trading pick 1 it's going to be in a trade involving Shiel

Carlton Recieve: McGovern, Pick 7 and 14
Adelaide Recieve: Pick 1, 24 and/or 25

Carlton Recieve: Shiel, Setterfield and next years first GWS
GWS Recieve: Pick 7 and Next years first Carlton