James Sicily

[hawkers65]

As a point of reference, his ownership before tonight was 20%, it'll be interesting to see where it sits over the coming days.

one bad score in JLT for someone you're annoyed isnt unique enough is beautiful

[quinny88]

Didn't see the game tonight but why the low score of 57? 20 disposals at 90% DE but 5 clangers. Giving away dumbass 50 meter penalties still or just butchered a few?

[StuL]

Didn't see the game tonight but why the low score of 57? 20 disposals at 90% DE but 5 clangers. Giving away dumbass 50 meter penalties still or just butchered a few?

3 Frees against. 5 Frogs.

[hawkers65]

Didn't see the game tonight but why the low score of 57? 20 disposals at 90% DE but 5 clangers. Giving away dumbass 50 meter penalties still or just butchered a few?

Almost all of that was in the first half. Scaling cause he didn’t do much in the second half I assume. But it’s a classic Clarko thing to do to go hard for a half and don’t do anything stupid in the second half. Almost every key hawk blasted the first half and didn’t do much in the second half. It’s good for %’s anyway

[LordSneeze]

As a point of reference, his ownership before tonight was 20%, it'll be interesting to see where it sits over the coming days.

one bad score in JLT for someone you're annoyed isnt unique enough is beautiful

Already dropped down to 17.3.
The % is too high ATM IMO, if he performs at top premo level I bring him in as an upgrade, if he goes alright I can bring in a top premo as a difference, if he fails everyone who starts him is either stuck with him or burning a trade.
If the % is too high i just don't see the allure to having him as a POD pick, I just have the Rich taste still in my month from previous years

[jfitty]

As a point of reference, his ownership before tonight was 20%, it'll be interesting to see where it sits over the coming days.

one bad score in JLT for someone you're annoyed isnt unique enough is beautiful

Already dropped down to 17.3.
The % is too high ATM IMO, if he performs at top premo level I bring him in as an upgrade, if he goes alright I can bring in a top premo as a difference, if he fails everyone who starts him is either stuck with him or burning a trade.
If the % is too high i just don't see the allure to having him as a POD pick, I just have the Rich taste still in my month from previous years

I definitely agree with this. Once a breakout contender gets past a certain ownership, I feel more comfortable waiting and seeing how they go to bring in as an upgrade later on. If they fail, there's 15%+ teams who have to work out what to do with him.

I was really keen on Sicily earlier in the preseason (shades of Howe last year), but think he's a little too popular now so will keep an eye on him.

[_wato]

I’m thinking of jumping off as well. The upside was that he’s a 400k fwd/def swing with low ownership but majority of teams will have him especially guys on this site. If I verse a team with him as a POD I’m not really that worried, probably happy tbh knowing a 30 could be on the cards. Should be good for a 85+ average but I’d rather my defenders consistent and go for high ceiling low floor guys in the mids where their floor is 70 not 30.

[RaisyDaisy]

I’m thinking of jumping off as well. The upside was that he’s a 400k fwd/def swing with low ownership but majority of teams will have him especially guys on this site. If I verse a team with him as a POD I’m not really that worried, probably happy tbh knowing a 30 could be on the cards. Should be good for a 85+ average but I’d rather my defenders consistent and go for high ceiling low floor guys in the mids where their floor is 70 not 30.

Problem for me is, besides Laird and Hibberd I just can't pick another prem def that I am 100% convinced on so I figure at 400k he carries much less risk and at worst will be good enough for D6

[Money Shot]

I agree with the majority here. He was a good pick as a pod but with 15%+ not taking him is more appealing now as he could turn out a few poor scores early and put you ahead of the pack.

Same issue with Petracca if his ownership was around that 10% mark it would be a good pick but with so many people starting him and his upside not that high it is more appealing to not start with him.

[_wato]

I’m thinking of jumping off as well. The upside was that he’s a 400k fwd/def swing with low ownership but majority of teams will have him especially guys on this site. If I verse a team with him as a POD I’m not really that worried, probably happy tbh knowing a 30 could be on the cards. Should be good for a 85+ average but I’d rather my defenders consistent and go for high ceiling low floor guys in the mids where their floor is 70 not 30.

Problem for me is, besides Laird and Hibberd I just can't pick another prem def that I am 100% convinced on so I figure at 400k he carries much less risk and at worst will be good enough for D6

100% can easily see why he’s a good pick. But there’s enough reason to not pick him either. For me it’s Hibberd + Sicily v Lloyd + Savage. Lloyd for an extra $70k is a much better option imo. Yes low ceiling but very high floor. 80 is usually minimum

[ubeaut]

I agree with the majority here. He was a good pick as a pod but with 15%+ not taking him is more appealing now as he could turn out a few poor scores early and put you ahead of the pack.

Same issue with Petracca if his ownership was around that 10% mark it would be a good pick but with so many people starting him and his upside not that high it is more appealing to not start with him.

How does it put u ahead of the pack if 85% don't have him either? Have to also factor in owners may have 50 - 100k to strengthen team elsewhere.
More chance of putting u ahead if u pick him and he scores around the same as Simmo,Lloyd,Witherden,Houli,Savage,Robbo and u use the $ to upgrade a 550>600k mid to Dusty/Titch. Or a Robbo/Petracca to Buddy/Heeney/Billings

[Money Shot]

I agree with the majority here. He was a good pick as a pod but with 15%+ not taking him is more appealing now as he could turn out a few poor scores early and put you ahead of the pack.

Same issue with Petracca if his ownership was around that 10% mark it would be a good pick but with so many people starting him and his upside not that high it is more appealing to not start with him.

How does it put u ahead of the pack if 85% don't have him either? Have to also factor in owners may have 50 - 100k to strengthen team elsewhere.
More chance of putting u ahead if u pick him and he scores around the same as Simmo,Lloyd,Witherden,Houli,Savage,Robbo and u use the $ to upgrade a 550>600k mid to Dusty/Titch. Or a Robbo/Petracca to Buddy/Heeney/Billings

If you think he is going to score the same as Hurley/Yeo/Laird/Hibberd or even be close to matching there output then obviously you pick him as he is underpriced for what he can produce.

I didn't articulate my point very well. I was trying to say he is less enticing to me as he is no longer a pod and that if he comes out and scores 90 or so I will be slightly behind those who start him but if he comes out and has a couple of shockers I will be in front of 15% of the comp who have picked him. I just don't see him coming out and smashing it (going 100+) so if I miss out it isn't that big a deal.

I think he is more likely to average below 80 in the first 5 rounds than he is to score above 90. If he goes 80-90 I won't be missing out on that much.

I just don't see as much upside in starting him at 15% ownership percentage as I do at 5% as he

[PowerBug]

His effective ownership is more like 25-26%. Barely anyone that takes it seriously would start without Gawn. So I take Gawn's ownership as the overall ownership, then maybe add on 1-2% as there might actually be people that start without him for whatever reason. 17.0/59.4 = 28.6% so roughly speaking it's a quarter of every team

[Money Shot]

His effective ownership is more like 25-26%. Barely anyone that takes it seriously would start without Gawn. So I take Gawn's ownership as the overall ownership, then maybe add on 1-2% as there might actually be people that start without him for whatever reason. 17.0/59.4 = 28.6% so roughly speaking it's a quarter of every team

That is actually a fair way of looking at it not sure if I 100% agree with it but it is definitely interesting.

[PowerBug]

His effective ownership is more like 25-26%. Barely anyone that takes it seriously would start without Gawn. So I take Gawn's ownership as the overall ownership, then maybe add on 1-2% as there might actually be people that start without him for whatever reason. 17.0/59.4 = 28.6% so roughly speaking it's a quarter of every team

That is actually a fair way of looking at it not sure if I 100% agree with it but it is definitely interesting.

Only really works at the start of the season for someone that everyone should have. I can't remember about last season, but 2016 we had Wells I think who was $210k and owned by nearly everyone, and I remember Mitch Clark in 2015 was touching 70%.

My guess is incomplete teams don't have their %'s counted at all for whichever players they do own, but they count as a registered team, so as the days get closer to March 22 expect Gawn's % to rise more.