WXV Trade Talk

Started by meow meow, July 13, 2015, 07:35:23 PM

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Purple 77

1 coach to go!

These trades received one vote; but will now automatically pass.

Trade 91
New York trade: Jamie Bennell + Patrick McGinnity
Toronto trade: Rookie Pick 64

Trade 96
Toronto trade: Touk Miller + Taylor Garner
Cape Town trade: Scott Selwood, Jake Kelly + Matthew Dick

Trade 103
Cape Town trade: Pick 22
Moscow trade: Sam Colquhoun


RaisyDaisy

Quote from: Holz on November 17, 2015, 08:29:21 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 17, 2015, 06:35:03 PM
Someone actually negged this?

Trade 91
New York trade: Jamie Bennell + Patrick McGinnity
Toronto trade: Rookie Pick 64

LMAO - some people take this way too serious.

Same can be said about the Pick 22 for Cokehoon trade getting a neg

Mind boggling that these get a neg

Rookie 64 is essentially nothing.

So if anyone values those guys at all the trade is unfair. Just because its a tiny trade doesn't make it uneven.

In fact its far less fairthen some trades that have failed

Coaches should read the reasoning when trades are posted

We were delisting them both and Toronto needed points to get above the cap. We were just helping out another team, and everyone with half a clue of SC knows these 2 are worth nothing

Nige

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 17, 2015, 09:17:14 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 17, 2015, 08:29:21 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 17, 2015, 06:35:03 PM
Someone actually negged this?

Trade 91
New York trade: Jamie Bennell + Patrick McGinnity
Toronto trade: Rookie Pick 64

LMAO - some people take this way too serious.

Same can be said about the Pick 22 for Cokehoon trade getting a neg

Mind boggling that these get a neg

Rookie 64 is essentially nothing.

So if anyone values those guys at all the trade is unfair. Just because its a tiny trade doesn't make it uneven.

In fact its far less fairthen some trades that have failed

Coaches should read the reasoning when trades are posted

We were delisting them both and Toronto needed points to get above the cap. We were just helping out another team, and everyone with half a clue of SC knows these 2 are worth nothing
I know what you're saying, but you kinda contradicted yourself in a way.

They are worth something. They both played games and scored points which gave them value, hence why you traded them to Toronto, because they needed cap points.

It always annoys me when people say players are 'worth nothing' or have 'no value'.

RaisyDaisy

We don't need to get pedantic here. They're list fillers and nothing more.

They'll be in the WAFL for most of the year/their careers, and wouldn't start in any WXV team so for it to get a neg is just insane as that is suggesting the coach who negged it genuinely thinks the trade is not good for the comp and Toronto are getting away with high way robbery which is nothing short of, well, laughable

It passed so it's fine, but having coaches this anal is slightly concerning


Nige

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 17, 2015, 10:49:04 PM
We don't need to get pedantic here. They're list fillers and nothing more.

They'll be in the WAFL for most of the year/their careers, and wouldn't start in any WXV team so for it to get a neg is just insane as that is suggesting the coach who negged it genuinely thinks the trade is not good for the comp and Toronto are getting away with high way robbery which is nothing short of, well, laughable

It passed so it's fine, but having coaches this anal is slightly concerning
Just creating a bit of debate so that it's not so dead around here.  ;) :P

RaisyDaisy

Haha I'm doing the exact same thing lol

You know you're getting desperate when a trade as small as that gets discussed lol



Nige

Wait for the three way and Cotchin trades to be rejected when the last coach gets their vote in and watch the blow up.

The popcorn is on me.

GoLions

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 17, 2015, 10:49:04 PM
We don't need to get pedantic here. They're list fillers and nothing more.

They'll be in the WAFL for most of the year/their careers, and wouldn't start in any WXV team so for it to get a neg is just insane as that is suggesting the coach who negged it genuinely thinks the trade is not good for the comp and Toronto are getting away with high way robbery which is nothing short of, well, laughable

It passed so it's fine, but having coaches this anal is slightly concerning
I'll have none of this sex talk in here RD. Trade talk only mate.

Ricochet

Stop making serious posts GL

You need to lighten up dude

GoLions

But think of the children. What is torps mother to do when he's walking around the house repeating this filth all day? And worse, when he repeats it at school.

This kind of language isn't appropriate for grade 2.

Holz

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 17, 2015, 09:17:14 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 17, 2015, 08:29:21 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 17, 2015, 06:35:03 PM
Someone actually negged this?

Trade 91
New York trade: Jamie Bennell + Patrick McGinnity
Toronto trade: Rookie Pick 64

LMAO - some people take this way too serious.

Same can be said about the Pick 22 for Cokehoon trade getting a neg

Mind boggling that these get a neg

Rookie 64 is essentially nothing.

So if anyone values those guys at all the trade is unfair. Just because its a tiny trade doesn't make it uneven.

In fact its far less fairthen some trades that have failed

Coaches should read the reasoning when trades are posted

We were delisting them both and Toronto needed points to get above the cap. We were just helping out another team, and everyone with half a clue of SC knows these 2 are worth nothing

Reasoning hasnt been looked at before.

My 5 way deal got rejected by me losing to much and that screwed me when it failed. End result I lost because of the reject.

I passed the trade by the way

Purple 77

Alrighty. All votes are in... will look at the trades that got a vote, if yours didn't come up then it attracted 0 votes and passed.

Trade 91 - 1 vote
New York trade: Jamie Bennell + Patrick McGinnity
Toronto trade: Rookie Pick 64 
Coaches comments: Felt two players are worth more than a late rookie pick.
Admin comments: No problems here.
Verdict: PASS

Trade 92 - 8 votes
New Delhi trade: Isaac Heeney + Nathan Hrovat
New Delhi receive: Steele Sidebottom

Mexico City trade: Steele Sidebottom, Shannon Hurn, Shaun Grigg + Rookie Pick 18
Mexico City receive: Heath Shaw, Taylor Adams, Nathan Hrovat + Pick 64

New York trade: Heath Shaw, Taylor Adams + Pick 64
New York receive: Isaac Heeney, Shannon Hurn, Shaun Grigg + Rookie Pick 18
Coaches comments: Common theme was that this trade strengthens Mexico City by too much; feeling Adams/Sidebottom are fairly equal, and that the Hurn to Shaw upgrade is too substantial for the rest of the trade to make up for it. Coaches also felt that New York cop the short end of the stick, and a few noted that New Delhi win the trade by too much. 
Admin comments: I pretty much agree with all the coaches comments here; but I would neg it I think because of the Mexico City strengthening here; which is the major point for me.
Verdict: REJECTED

Trade 93
Mexico City trade: Chris Masten
Berlin trade: Brent Stanton + Heath Hocking
Coaches comments: Felt Hocking  was an overpay.
Admin comments: Eh, yeah, but he never had a good scoring history anyway. A good AFL player, but not so much fantasy.
Verdict: PASS

Trade 96 - 1 vote
Toronto trade: Touk Miller + Taylor Garner
Cape Town trade: Scott Selwood, Jake Kelly + Matthew Dick
Coaches comments: Felt Selwood was worth more than Miller
Admin comments: Touk has been passed around a bit this trade period!
Verdict: PASS

Trade 98 - 3 votes
Cape Town trade: Pick 11 + Pick 23
Moscow trade: Luke McDonald
Coaches comments: Felt McDonald was worth only one of these picks.
Admin comments: Definitely agree. But is it enough to overturn a decision? I reckon he would have easily gone for this price last year, and seems to have potential... some red-vest games dragged his average down a bit I suppose, and he seems to be a genuine future player for the Roos. I've also noticed memph has been hoarding the draft picks over the comps, indicating he might know the draft well, so if he is willing to hand these over for LMac, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
Verdict: PASS

Trade 100 - 3 votes
Mexico City trade: Taylor Adams, Kamdyn McIntosh + Heath Hocking
Cairo trade: Trent Cotchin, Jeremy Laidler + Pick 78
Coaches comments: One said Cairo "underpayed", the others felt Cotchin was worth more than Adams and that Mexico City win by too much.
Admin comments: I don't see an issue with the trade personally; but trade 92 was rejected which involved Adams, so Mexico City don't have Adams to trade, hence this fails.
Verdict: REJECTED

Trade 103 - 2 votes
Cape Town trade: Pick 22
Moscow trade: Sam Colquhoun
Coaches comments: Felt Colq was not worth Pick 22
Admin comments: If this got one more votes, I reckon I may have rejected it  :-\ I definitely agree.
Verdict: PASS

RaisyDaisy

8 votes Haha, at least it gives us something to talk and renegotiate about lol

Purple 77


Nige

The coaches are that negged the Cotchin deal must seriously overrate him or underrate Adams because they're hardly far enough apart to warrant that deal attract a vote.

People genuinenly shower the bed as soon as big name is put into a deal. Time to start having more faith that all parties concerned have a clear idea of what they're doing when they trade and only neg the deals that are terrible. I really don't think 92 or 100 fit that (I get the latter failed because it's subject to the slightly more controversial one).