2015 Champions League Discussion

[Ringo]

Would not work for Brits atm Levi due to 1/2 combined AF + SC,

[Levi434]

For the sake of conversation lets say that 100,000 points have been scored in SC so far this year.

Perhaps there has been 110,000 DT and 128,000 SB why can't we use those numbers to determine the modifiers?


During Champions League:


SC scores will be used as the baseline so teams from WXV; scores will stay the same.

DT scores are 10% higher than SC so teams from EXV; scores will be multiplied by 0.9.

(Total SC + Total DT) / 2 will determine that these scores are 5% higher than so teams from BXV; scores will be multiplied by 0.95.

SB scores and 28% higher than SC scores so teams from AXV; scores will be multiplied by 0.78



I don't see a difference with these numbers opposed to the points scored in the XV leagues. Wouldn't it be more accurate?

[PowerBug]

Firstly, your numbers are wrong slightly. If you want 110,000 to become 100,000 you wouldn't multiple by 0.9, you multiply by 0.90909. And the same with the other ones, it would be 0.78125 for AXV and 0.9524 for BXV.

However the issue above is that some comps hand out more bonuses than others.

E.g. WXV side score 1500, every player scores 100. A AXV team scores 1920 (128 x 15). With the multiplier above they would tie. But because Worlds has a captain bonus and AXV has a captain and VC bonus, the Asians team would win despite not actually performing better.


However whichever way the multipliers are chosen there will be some issues and some errors.

[Purple 77]

356364 points have been scored in SC so far this year btw.

But that's for every AFL player.

[Ricochet]

Firstly, your numbers are wrong slightly. If you want 110,000 to become 100,000 you wouldn't multiple by 0.9, you multiply by 0.90909. And the same with the other ones, it would be 0.78125 for AXV and 0.9524 for BXV.

However the issue above is that some comps hand out more bonuses than others.

E.g. WXV side score 1500, every player scores 100. A AXV team scores 1920 (128 x 15). With the multiplier above they would tie. But because Worlds has a captain bonus and AXV has a captain and VC bonus, the Asians team would win despite not actually performing better.


However whichever way the multipliers are chosen there will be some issues and some errors.

But we're stripping away the multipliers in Champs League (apart from captaincy?) so the way Levi just explained it should be fine yeh? He only needs a comparison for raw scoring between the comps before multipliers

[JBs-Hawks]

Euros has 14 teams, Asians 16, British 16 and Worlds 18.

If we do it how it by total points than Euros will kill the rest as they're teams are stronger.

[PowerBug]

Firstly, your numbers are wrong slightly. If you want 110,000 to become 100,000 you wouldn't multiple by 0.9, you multiply by 0.90909. And the same with the other ones, it would be 0.78125 for AXV and 0.9524 for BXV.

However the issue above is that some comps hand out more bonuses than others.

E.g. WXV side score 1500, every player scores 100. A AXV team scores 1920 (128 x 15). With the multiplier above they would tie. But because Worlds has a captain bonus and AXV has a captain and VC bonus, the Asians team would win despite not actually performing better.


However whichever way the multipliers are chosen there will be some issues and some errors.

But we're stripping away the multipliers in Champs League (apart from captaincy?) so the way Levi just explained it should be fine yeh? He only needs a comparison for raw scoring between the comps before multipliers

Correct so this would work then. Do you or BB have the full Sportsbet numbers? The DT one shouldnt be hard to get

Euros has 14 teams, Asians 16, British 16 and Worlds 18.

If we do it how it by total points than Euros will kill the rest as they're teams are stronger.

Not sure how this is relevant in sorting out what the equalisation multipliers will be.

[Levi434]

Whilst we are still discussing the best scoring system. It is my pleasure to announce that the 2015 Champions League will be held in.... BRAZIL!

Here is the promotional poster:

[Ringo]

Just a slight concern with total points is the doubling up in British over byes.

If we use Brits to end of Round 12 Total Points scored divided by 2 is 345254.

[Purple 77]

God damn Levi, your graphics skills... its phenomenal.

[Levi434]

Teams that need to win this week in order to qualify for Champions League:

From WXV:
Berlin Brewers, Tokyo Samurai and Beijing Thunder are currently in 6th, 7th and 8th and all have a record of 6-5.
Whilst London Royals, Toronto Wolves, Pacific Islanders and Cape Town Cobras all have 5-6 and could move into the top 8 with a bit of fortune.

From EXV:
Russian Roulettes, Svalbard Valkyries and Spanish Stallions are all fight for the last 2 spots.

From BXV:
Bradford, Oxford and Leeds are all locked on 6-5 and two of these 3 should make it and there are also 3 teams on 5-6 chasing them down.

From AXV:
KL, Bangkok, Bangladesh, Tibet are all on 7-5 and only 2 spots for them.

[Ricochet]

From AXV:
KL, , Bangkok, Bangladesh, Tibet are all on 7-5 and only 2 spots for them.

KL(7th) vs UAE (1st)
Bangladesh (9th) vs Bangkok (8th)
Tibet (10th) vs Manilla (15th)

Going to be tough for my KL boys this week up against JRoo's Tigers

[Ricochet]

From AXV:
KL, , Bangkok, Bangladesh, Tibet are all on 7-5 and only 2 spots for them.

KL(7th) vs UAE (1st)
Bangladesh (9th) vs Bangkok (8th)
Tibet (10th) vs Manilla (15th)

Going to be tough for my KL boys this week up against JRoo's Tigers

Ablett's back and so are the Crocs ;)

[Ringo]

Qualifiers from British in table order

Winchester Werewolves
Huddersfield Hawks
Hastings Hurricanes
Liverpool Rams
Nottingham Hoods
Bradford Badgers
Swansea Breakers
Oxford Owls

[Levi434]

Thanks for that Ringo.

I am currently gathering information and creating the fixtures so they will be out soon. Only 11 days until the Champions League kicks off.