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AXVS COACHES, PLEASE POST ANY AND ALL DELISTINGS AND RETIREMENTS FROM YOUR SQUADS HERE

Feel free to also post any you are aware of from the AFL in general as it will help me to get everyone's squads and the existing player pool correct ahead of our 2014 preseason draft.

WHEN POSITING IF YOU KNOW PLEASE POST - PLAYER FULL NAME - AXVS CLUB IF IN ONE.

* NOTE: This is for players delisted and retired from AFL.

NOT Players you are choosing to delist from your AXVS team, there will be another time / thread for that.

Link to help you find players retired and delisted: http://www.afl.com.au/news/features/retirements-and-delistings

LIST TO DATE:

The RETIRED players will be made red in the updated team lists in the current trade thread, the delisted players will remain black and on teams lists until the team (AXVS) decides to delist them - or hold them until after AFL pre season draft.

RETIRED PLAYERS

Graham Johncock (ret)
Simon Black (ret)
Ben Johnson (ret)
David Hille (ret)
Nathan Lovett-Murray (ret)
Jayden Pitt (ret)
Joel Corey (ret)
Jared Brennan (ret)
Dean Brogan (ret)
Chad Cornes (ret)
Max Bailey (ret)
Brent Guerra (ret)
Michael Osborne (ret)
Aaron Davey (ret)
Joel Macdonald (ret)
David Rodan (ret)
Brett Ebert (ret)
Shane Tuck (ret)
Jason Blake (ret)
Justin Koschitzke (ret)
Stephen Milne (ret)
Jude Bolton (ret)
Martin Mattner (ret)
Mitch Morton (ret)    
Brad Dick (ret)
Andrew Embley (ret)
Ashton Hams (ret)
Mark Nicoski (ret)
Adam Selwood (ret)
Daniel Kerr (ret)
Daniel Cross (ret)


DELISTED PLAYERS

Ian Callinan (del)
Nick Joyce (del)
Tim Klaosen (del)
Tim McIntyre (del)
Dylan Orval (del)
Callum Bartlett (del)
Aaron Cornelius (del)
Niall McKeever (del)
Stephen Wrigley (del)
Richard Newell (del)
Andrew Collins (del)
Fraser Dale (del)
Marcus Davies (del)
Aaron Joseph (del)
Patrick McCarthy (del)
Luke Mitchell (del)
Rhys O'Keeffe (del)
Alan Didak (del)
Michael Hartley (del)
Darren Jolly (del)
Andrew Krakouer (del)
Ben Richmond (del)
Jordan Russell (del)
Luke Davis (del)
Hal Hunter (del)
Jesse Crichton (del)
Peter Faulks (del)
Alex Forster (del)
Alex Howson (del)
Haiden Schloithe (del)
Ryan Bathie (del)
Cameron Eardley (del)
Jacob Gilbee (del)
Kyal Horsley (del)
Liam Patrick (del)
Mav Weller (del)
Joel Wilkinson (del)
Josh Growden (del)
Setanta O'hAilpin (del)
Joe Redfern (del)
Bret Thornton (del)
Gerald Ugle (del)
Andrew Boseley (del)
Amos Frank (del)
Tom Couch (del)
Troy Davis (del)
Tom Gillies (del)
James Sellar (del)
Josh Tynan (del)
Jordan Gysberts (del)
Ayden Kennedy (del)
Ben Mabon (del)
Cameron Richardson (del)
Will Sierakowski (del)
Ben Speight (del)
Nathan Blee (del)
Danny Butcher (del)
Justin Hoskin (del)
Darren Pfeiffer (del)
Nick Salter (del)
Daniel Stewart (del)
Matt Thomas (del)
Tom Ledger (del)
Jay Lever (del)
Jordan Staley (del)
Alex Brown (del)
Nick Lower (del)
Lukas Markovic (del)
Patrick Veszpremi (del)

RE-SIGNED DELISTED PLAYERS

James Podsiadly (Adelaide)
Paul Chapman (Essendon)
Josh Hunt (GWS)

FREE AGENT MOVES

Matthew White (FA) - Richmond to Port Adelaide
Colin Sylvia (FA) - Melbourne to Fremantle
Eddie Betts (FA) - Carlton to Adelaide
Lance Franklin (FA) - Hawthorn to Sydney
Dale Thomas (FA) - Collingwood to Carlton
Xavier Ellis (FA) - Hawthorn to West Coast
Nick Dal Santo (FA) - St Kilda to North Melbourne

TRADED PLAYERS

Shaun Hampson (trade) - Carlton to Richmond
Ben McEvoy (trade) - St Kilda to Hawthorn
Shane Savage (trade) - Hawthorn to St Kilda
Viv Michie (trade) - Fremantle to Melbourne
Dom Tyson (trade) - GWS to Melbourne
Shane Mumford (trade) - Sydney to GWS
Bernie Vince (trade) - Adelaide to Melbourne
Jesse White (trade) - Sydney to Collingwood
Luke Delaney (trade) - North Melbourne to St Kilda
Shaun Edwards (trade) - GWS to Essendon
Kurt Aylett (trade) - GWS to Essendon
Heath Shaw (trade) Collingwood to GWS
Taylor Adams(trade) GWS to Collingwood
Stewart Crameri (trade) Essendon to Western Bulldogs
Sam Docherty (trade) Brisbane to Carlton
Elliot Yeo (trade) Brisbane to West Coast
Jared Polec (trade) Brisbane to Port Adelaide
Jackson Paine (trade) Collingwood to Brisbane
Patrick Karnezis (trade) Brisbane to Collingwood
Billy Longer (trade) Brisbane to St Kilda
Josh Bruce (trade) GWS to St Kilda
James Podsiadly (trade) Geelong to Adelaide
Josh Hunt (trade) Geelong to GWS
Paul Chapman (trade) Geelong to Essendon
Scott Gumbleton (trade) Essendon to Fremantle
Trent West (trade) Geelong to Brisbane
Sam Darley (trade) GWS to Western Bulldogs
Andrejs Evritt (trade) Sydney to Carlton

ANNOUNCED ROOKIE UPGRADES

Brandon Jack (SYD)
Dane Rampe (SYD)

AXVS DELISTINGS & PROPOSED ROOKIE UPGRADES

Teams with lists updated:

Manila Folders

Simon Black
Dean Brogan
Bret Thornton
Darren Pfeiffer
Nick Joyce
James Magner
Sam Lonergan

Kathmandu Eskimos

Ashton Hams 
Andrew Embley
Brad Dick
Setana O'Halpin
Martin Mattner
Aaron Joesph
Justin Hoskin
Alan Didak

UAE Tigers

Adam Selwood
Daniel Stewart
Patrick McGinnity
David Astbury
Rookie List
Tim McIntyre
Andrew Collins
Joel Hamling
Lin Jong

Turkish Gazelles

Todd Banfield
Andrew Krakouer
Josh Tynan
Jordan Russell
Daniel Kerr
Fletcher Roberts
Brent Renouf

Tibetan Llamas

Josh Growden
Tom Couch
Luke Russell
Sam Shaw
Tom Downie
Sam Siggins
Alex Forster
Brett O'Hanlon
Shaun Edwards

Australian Ales

Derrick Wanganeen
Luke Mitchell
Steven Milne
Jesse Crichton
Amos Frank
Jacob Townsend

Mongolian Lambs

Nathan Lovett-Murray
Daniel Pearce
Taylor Hine
Patrick Veszpremi
Danny Butcher

Bangkok Crabs

Richard Newell
Cam Eardley
Jason Ashby
Luke Lowden
Fraser McInnes
Eric Wallace
Steven Morris
Ariel Steinberg
Leroy Jetta
Jesse Stringer
Luke Tapscott

Vietnam Vipers

Anthony Miles
Adam Kennedy
Cale Morton
Tim Mohr
Rhys Palmer
Lewis Pierce
Andrew McInnes
Martin Gleeson
Tim McGennesis

Laos Elephants

Niall McKeever
Ben Speight
Peter Yagmoor
Joel Wilkinson
Ben Mabon
Ayden Kennedy
Jamie Bennell

KL Crocodiles

Ahmed Saad
Mitch Morton
Graham Johncock
Justin Koschitzke

Bangladesh Bears

Shane Tuck
Joel Macdonald
Ian Callinan
Jayden Pitt

Taiwan Dolphins

Jared Brennan
Jason Blake
Brett Ebert
Joel Corey
Cameron Richardson
Nick Lower
Kyal Horsley
Alex Howson
Jack Osborn
Orren Stephensen
Leigh Osbourne
Alwyn Davey
Kyle Hardingham
Jason Porplyzia

Hong Kong Dongs

Max Bailey
Callum Bartlett
Liam Patrick
Nathan Stark
Chad Cornes

Sri Lanka Strikers

James Sellar
Aaron Davey
Peter Faulks
Sean Gregory
Jon Ceglar
Kepler Bradley

PNG Head Hunters

Jude Bolton
Tom Gillies
Tim Golds
Mark Nicoski
Karmichael Hunt
Ben Richmond
Joseph Redfern
Gideon Simon

DELISTINGS DEADLINE AND INFORMATION

All AXVS Clubs must announce in this thread or via PM to administrators their delistings for BOTH lists by midnight AEST November 19th 2013.

Can you all please also post in this thread your intended rookie promotions as in nat draft pick # and player you plan to promote.

PLEASE NOTE: To assist us in determining if we will use round #6 of the national draft the following will assist:

1. Please post your delistings or PM to administrators ASAP, but NOTE - THESE CAN BE CHANGED UP UNTIL THE DEADLINE>

2. Please post your intended rookie promotions here ASAP, but NOTE - THESE CAN BE CHANGED AT ANY TIME.

(it is up to you who you choose to promote or not promote off your rookie list, you may nominate a player here but find when that pick comes up in the AXVS national draft there is a player there you want more than to promote your rookie and change your mind.  THIS IS OK. I just want to know who you PLAN to promote so I can run the numbers to work out if we will be using round 6 of the nat draft or not.)

So in short announce your intended rookie promotions here but know that you do not have to stick to what you announce here, that is a decision you make at any time during our national draft as to who and if you promote rookies.

AXVS LISTS POST DELISTINGS




TEAM RANKING BASED ON CHAMPION DATA PLAYER RANKINGS

THESE RATINGS WILL BE UPDATED WITH NEW 2014 RATINGS ONCE 2014 PROSPECTUS IS IN MY HANDS.

ELITE (top 10% of position) = 9 POINTS
ABOVE AVERAGE (top 35% of position) = 6 POINTS
AVERAGE (middle 30% of position) = 4 POINTS
BELOW AVERAGE (bottom 35% of position) = 2 POINTS
POOR (bottom 10% of position) = 1 POINT
TOP 5 DRAFT PICK (PLAYED LESS THAN 5 GAMES IN 2012 OR DRAFTED IN 2012) = 3 POINTS
FIRST ROUND DRAFT PICK (PLAYED LESS THAN 5 GAMES IN 2012 OR DRAFTED IN 2012) = 2 POINTS
OTHER DRAFT PICK (PLAYED LESS THAN 5 GAMES IN 2012 OR DRAFTED IN 2012) = 1 POINT
ROOKIE LISTED PLAYER = 1 POINT

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FOLDERS FINAL LIST  Team Value (199) POST DELISTINGS

SENIOR LIST

1. Dane Swan
2. Dayne Zorko
3. Brendan  Goddard
4. Travis Cloke
5. Michael Johnson
6. Brock McLean
7. Nick Dal Santo
8. Chris Mayne
9. Nick Malceski
10. Will Minson
11. Mitch Clark
12. Ryan Bastinac
13. Sam Reid syd
14. Craig Bird
15. Sam Gilbert
16. Bernie Vince
17. Matthew Lobbe
18. Ed Curnow
19. Joshua Walker
20. Daniel Merrett
21. Jamie MacMillan
22. Adam Schneider
23. Josh Hill
24. Quinten Lynch
25. Tom Williams
26. Ashley McGrath
27. Nathan Foley
28. Nick Duigan
29. Rohan Bewick
30. Lewis Roberts-Thompson
31. Aiden Corr
32. Brent Reily
33. Jeremy Laidler
34. Josh Saunders
35. Tommy Walsh
36.
37.
38.
39.
40.

ROOKIE LIST

1. Harrison Marsh
2. Sam Dwyer
3. Jack Hannath
4. Matt Maguire
5.
6.

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BEARS FINAL LIST Team Value (198) POST DELISTINGS

SENIOR LIST

1. Joel Selwood
2. Nat Fyfe
3. Ben McEvoy
4. Mitch Robinson
5. Sam Mitchell
6. Matthew Boyd
7. Mark LeCras
8. Tom Clurey
9. Andrew Walker
10. Nick Riewoldt
11. Beau Waters
12. Alipate Carlile
13. Ryan Crowley
14. Dean Terlich
15. James Gwilt
16. Michael Rischitelli
17. Mason Shaw
18. Brent Moloney
19. Dean Kent
20. Dom Cassisi
21. Paul Duffield
22. Brent Harvey
23. Brent Staker
24. Jonathan Griffin
25. Jordan Gysberts
26. Matthew Pavlich
27. Daniel Cross
28. Jake King
29. Mark Jamar
30. Mark Hutchings
31. Trent Dennis-Lane
32. Jared Rivers
33. Kane Mitchell
34. Matt Thomas
35. Cameron Hitchcock
36. Nicholas Kommer
37.
38.
39.
40.

ROOKIE LIST

1. Simon Tunbridge
2. Jed Bews
3. Mason Wood
4. Ben Griffiths
5. Michael Evans
6.

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DONGS FINAL LIST  Team Value (194) POST DELISTINGS

SENIOR LIST

1. Lance Franklin
2. Jack Grimes
3. Jarryd Roughead
4. Liam Anthony
5. Brent Stanton
6. Leigh Montagna
7. Hamish Mcintosh
8. David Hale
9. Dustin Fletcher
10. Jonathan Brown
11. Jay Schulz
12. Kane Cornes
13. Patrick McCarthy
14. Heath Scotland
15. Jimmy Bartel
16. Clinton Young
17. Will Schofield
18. Lenny Hayes
19. Jordan Lisle
20. Jordie McKenzie
21. Chris Newman
22. Shannon Byrnes
23. Jarrad Grant
24. Luke McPharlin
25. Daniel Giansiracusa
26. Bradd Dalziell
27. Aaron Cornelius
28. Eric Mackenzie
29. Robert Murphy
30. Luke McGuane
31. Jason Johannisen
32. Lachlan Keeffe
33. Ben Hudson
34. Spencer White
35. Matthew Watson
36. Richard Tambling
37. James Kelly
38.
39.
40.

ROOKIE LIST

1. Kaiden Brand
2. Sam Michael
3. Mitchell Wilkins
4. Joshua Prudden
5. Jack Redpath
6.

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DOLPHINS FINAL LIST  Team Value (193) POST DELISTINGS

SENIOR LIST

1. Gary Ablett
2. Harley Bennell
3. Corey Enright
4. Cyril Rioli
5. Matthew Kruezer
6. Jed Adcock
7. Tom Campbell
8. Cameron Sutcliffe
9. Nick Vlastuin
10. Eddie Betts
11. Scott Gumbleton
12. Tory Dickson
13. Ben McGlynn
14. Scott Lycett
15. Sam Wright
16. Darren Jolly
17. Clinton Jones
18. Jason Winderlich
19. Josh Hunt
20. Allan Toovey
21. Joel Patful
22. Matthew Stokes
23. Scott McMahon
24. Corey Dell'Olio
25. Ryan Lester
26. Nathan Wright
27. Zachary Tuohy
28. Isaac Smith
29. Travis Varcoe
30.
31.
32.
33.
34.
35.
36.
37.
38.
39.
40. 

ROOKIE LIST

1.  Nicholas Hayes
2.  Cameron Ellis-Yolmen
3.  Jordan Bourke
4. 
5. 
6. 


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LAMBS FINAL LIST  Team Value (186) POST DELISTINGS

SENIOR LIST

1. Marc Murphy
2. Scott Thompson ADE
3. Jack Riewoldt
4. Steve Johnson
5. Jonathon Giles
6. Bachar Houli
7. Drew Petrie
8. Kurt Tippett
9. Jarred McVeigh
10. Peirce Hanley
11. Brian Lake
12. Nathan Van Berlo
13. Taylor Hunt
14. Alex Rance
15. Matt Priddis
16. Ryan O'Keefe
17. Hayden Ballantyne
18. Nick Smith
19. Clay Cameron
20. Nathan Bock
21. Charlie Dixon
22. Adam Cooney
23. Dennis Armfield
24. George Horlin - Smith
25. Hayden Crozier
26. Andrew Moore
27. Tom J Lynch GC
28. Aaron Young
29. Jack Newnes
30. Lynden Dunn
31. Stephan Gilham
32. Craig Moller
33. Tom Logan
34. Travis Colyer
35. Mile Pyke
36.
37.
38.
39.
40.

ROOKIE LIST

1. Cadeyn Williams
2. Max Duffy
3. Kyle Hartigan
4. Murray Newman
5.
6.

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TIGERS FINAL LIST  Team Value (172) POST DELISTINGS

SENIOR LIST

1. Brett Deledio
2. Jack Ziebell
3. Toby Greene
4. Shaun Higgins
5. Hamish Hartlett
6. Dustin Martin
7. Aaron Sandilands
8. Chris Knights
9. Clancee Pearce
10. Colin Sylvia
11. Sean Dempster
12. Ryan Griffen
13. Allen Christensen
14. David Armitage
15. Chris Yarran
16. Brodie Martin
17. Richard Douglas
18. Stefan Martin
19. Robbie Gray
20. Rohan Bail
21. Ricky Henderson
22. Shaun McKernan
23. Josh Gibson
24. Tom Bellchambers
25. Stephen Hill
26. Shane Edwards
27. Ted Richards
28. Kyle Martin
29. Jarryd Cachia
30. Lachie Hunter
31. Daniel Talia
32. James Polkinghorne
33. Campbell Heath
34. Shannon Hurn
35. Jarrod Harbrow
36. Tom Lee
37.
38.
39.
40.

ROOKIE LIST

1. Jake Lloyd
2. Matt McDonough
3.
4.
5.
6.

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ALES FINAL LIST Team Value (172) POST DELISTINGS

SENIOR LIST

1. Luke Shuey
2. Josh P Kennedy
3. Grant Birchall
4. Angus Monfries
5. Nathan Jones
6. Shane Mumford
7. Jarrad waite
8. David Zaharakis
9. Trent Mckenzie
10. Matthew Broadbent
11. Shaun Hampson
12. Daniel Wells
13. Sam Butler
14. Jack Gunston
15. Liam Jones
16. Thomas Bugg
17. Brent Guerra
18. Sam Mayes
19. Matthew Jaensch
20. Jordan Roughead
21. Adam Tomlinson
22. Paul Stewart
23. Chris Masten
24. Heath Hocking
25. Liam Sumner
26. Luke Hodge
27. James Strauss
28. Cale Hooker
29. Ayce Cordy
30. Jack Crisp
31. Alex Sexton
32. Alex Woodward
33. Ashley Smith
34. Jacob Brennan
35.
36.
37.
38.
39.
40.

ROOKIE LIST

1. Jesse Hogan
2. Xavier Richards
3. Jack Martin
4. Matthew Dick
5.
6.

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GAZELLES FINAL LIST Team Value (164) POST DELISTINGS

SENIOR LIST

1. Jobe Watson
2. David Mundy
3. Ivan Maric
4. Heath Shaw
5. Mark Baguley
6. Paul Chapman
7. Luke Ball
8. Mitchell Duncan
9. Leigh Adams
10. Nathan Grima
11. Ben Cunnington
12. Brad Sewell
13. Tom Mitchell
14. Dean Cox
15. Brandon Ellis
16. Shaun Atley
17. Arryn Siposs
18. Johnathan Simpkin
19. Sam Fisher
20. Brendon Ah Chee
21. Jack Viney
22. Adam Goodes
23. Daniel Rich
24. Matthew Shaw
25. Jed Anderson
26. Easton Wood
27. Xavier Ellis
28. Aiden Riley
29. Josh Mellington
30. Liam McBean
31. Andrew Raines
32. Nick Maxwell
33. Beau Maister
34. Lewis Stevenson
35. Tom Young
36.
37.
38.
39.
40.

ROOKIE LIST

1. Mitchell Clisby
2. Adam Oxley
3. Matthew Taberner
4. Cameron Delaney
5. Lincoln McCarthy
6. Dane Rampe

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STRIKERS FINAL LIST Team Value (160) POST DELISTINGS

SENIOR LIST

1. Kieran Jack
2. Mitchell Golby
3. Sam Jacobs
4. Matt Suckling
5. Reece Conca
6. Rory Sloane
7. Scott D. Thompson
8. Brett Goodes
9. Andrew Mackie
10. Kade Simpson
11. Josh J Kennedy
12. Tom Scully
13. Josh Jenkins
14. Justin Westhoff
15. Michael Walters
16. Heath Grundy
17. Gary Rohan
18. Jamie Elliot
19. Sam Gibson
20. Alex Johnson
21. Will Hoskin-Elliot
22. Curtly Hampton
23. Brad Sheppard
24. Ryan Schoenmakers
25. Daniel Jackson
26. Jackson Paine
27. Levi Casboult
28. Rhyce Shaw
29. James Podsiadly
30. Nathan Hrovat
31. Josh Simpson
32. Dale Thomas
33. Jason Tutt
34. Cameron Guthrie
35. Matt Rosa
36. Jed Lamb
37. Sam Darley
38. Matt DeBoer
39. Callum Sinclair
40.

ROOKIE LIST

1. James Stewart
2. Andrejs Everitt
3. Marco Paparone
4.
5.
6.


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VIPERS FINAL LIST  Team Value (156) POST DELISTINGS

SENIOR LIST

1. Dayne Beams
2. Matthew Wright
3. Shaun Grigg
4. Matthew Leuenberger
5. Chris Judd
6. Courtenay Dempsey
7. Troy Chaplin
8. Christian Howard
9. Sam Blease
10. Danny Stanley
11. Ricky Pettard
12. David Myers
13. Jeremy Howe
14. Ben Reid
15. Dom Tyson
16. Jake Melksham
17. Robert Warnock
18. Robin Nahas
19. Billie Smedts
20. Mitch Wallis
21. Paul Puopolo
22. Nick Haynes
23. Brandon Matera
24. Troy Menzel
25. Kane Lucas
26. Nick Suban
27. Patrick Karnezis
28. Taylor Garner
29. Jonathan O'Rourke
30. Mark Whiley
31. Matt Jones
32. Tony Armstrong
33. Majak Daw
34. Lewis Johnston
35. Paul Seedsman
36.
37.
38.
39.
40.

ROOKIE LIST

1. Thomas Jonas
2. Josh Bruce
3.
4.
5.
6.

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HEAD HUNTERS FINAL LIST Team Value (148) POST DELISTINGS

SENIOR LIST

1. Andrew Swallow
2. Callan Ward
3. Tom Rockliff
4. Dyson Heppell
5. Brendan Whitecross
6. Danyle Pearce
7. Lee Spurr
8. Andrew Carrazzo
9. Jarryd Blair
10. Zac clarke
11. Farren Ray
12. Garrick Ibbotson
13. Jeff Garlett
14. Lindsay Thomas
15. Shaun Burgoyne
16. Sam Naismith
17. Colin Garland
18. David McKay
19. Rhys Stanley
20. Harry Cunningham
21. Robbie Tarrant
22. Jarrod Witts
23. Tyson Goldsack
24. Ben Sinclair
25. Michael Close
26. Lachlan Plowman
27. Marley williams
28. Andrew Phillips
29. Jordan Schroder
30. Kurt Aylett
31. Viv Michie
32. Alex Browne
33. Brant Colledge
34. Aaron Mullet
35. Tom Bell
36.
37.
38.
39.
40.

ROOKIE LIST

1. Brandon Jack
2. Luke Thompson
3. Rory Atkins
4.
5.
6.

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ELEPHANTS FINAL LIST Team Value (148) POST DELISTINGS

SENIOR LIST

1. Jack Redden
2. Taylor Walker
3. Michael Barlow
4. Scott Selwood
5. Daniel Nicholson
6. Todd Goldstein
7. Jack Watts
8. Travis Boak
9. Dylan Shiel
10. Liam Shiels
11. Aaron Hall
12. Stewart Crameri
13. Brodie Smith
14. John Patton
15. Tom McDonald
16. Billy longer
17. Alex Fasolo
18. Jarryn Geary
19. Jared Petrenko
20. Sam Day
21. Lachlan Hansen
22. Joshua Bootsma
23. Ryan Harwood
24. Jordan Lewis
25. Joshua Green
26. Ben Stratton
27. Bradley Mckenzie
28. Sam Frost
29. Maverick Weller
30. Thomas Sheridan
31. Seb Tape
32. Sam Dunnell
33. Rory Thompson
34. Sam Colquhoun
35. Oliver Wines
36. Matt White
37. Lachie Whitfield
38.
39.
40.


ROOKIE LIST

1. Jesse White
2. Tanner Smith
3.
4.
5.
6.


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ESKIMOS FINAL LIST  Team Value (146) POST DELISTINGS

SENIOR LIST

1. Harry O'Brien
2. Aaron Edwards
3. Patrick Ryder
4. Luke Breust
5. Lewis Jetta
6. Tendai Mzungu
7. Dale Morris
8. Sam Rowe
9. Taylor Duryea
10. Kieran Harper
11. Daniel Hannebery
12. Michael Hibberd
13. David Ellard
14. Brad Ebert
15. Tim Sumner
16. Cameron Pederson
17. Ben Howlett
18. Todd Elton
19. Liam Picken
20. Marty Clarke
21. Dylan Van Unen
22. Jarrad Redden
23. Levi Greenwood
24. Steven May
25. Lachie Henderson
26. Daniel Currie
27. Dominic Barry
28. Tom Simpkin
29. Michael Firrito
30. Jake Neade
31. Jared Polec
32. Alex Silvagni
33. Tom Derickx
34.
35.
36.
37.
38.
39.
40.

ROOKIE LIST

1. Anthony Morabito
2. Andrew Boston
3. Brad Hartman
4. Caolan Mooney
5. Henry Schade
6.


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CROCODILES LIST CONFIRMED  Team Value (142) POST DELISTINGS

SENIOR LIST

1. Scott Pendlebury
2. Bryce Gibbs
3. Steele Sidebottom
4. Brodie Grundy
5. Luke Dahlhaus
6. Sharrod Wellingham
7. Stephen Coniglio
8. Michael Hurley
9. Luke Parker
10. Harry Taylor
11. Aaron Black
12. Tom Liberatore
13. Jack Darling
14. Claye Beams
15. Jordan murdoch
16. Josh Caddy
17. Shane Savage
18. James Frawley
19. Trent West
20. Jackson Trengrove
21. Nick Graham
22. Tayte Pears
23. Jamie Cripps
24. Elliot Kavanagh
25. Dylan Grimes
26. Dylan Addison
27. Koby Stevens
28. Tom Ledger
29. Tom Hickey
30. Mitchell Brown
31. Nick OBrien
32. Tom Curran
33. Dean Towers
34. Will Hams
35. Dawson Simpson
36.
37.
38.
39.
40.

ROOKIE LIST

1. Jack Frost
2. Kamdyn McIntosh
3. Jordan Lockyer
4. Dylan Buckley
5. Jackson Sheringham
6. Angus Graham


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CRABS FINAL LIST  Team Value (126) POST DELISTINGS

SENIOR LIST

1. Jack Steven
2. Nic Naitanui
3. Tom Hawkins
4. Phil Davis
5. Jaeger O'Meara
6. Adam Treloar
7. Dion Prestia
8. Taylor Adams
9. Jake Stringer
10. Jesse Lonergan
11. Nathan Vardy
12. Steven Motlop
13. Sam Docherty
14. Brad Crouch
15. Matthew Buntine
16. Daniel Menzel
17. Chris Dawes
18. Sebastian Ross
19. Tim Membrey
20. David Swallow
21. Josh Thomas
22. Brent Mcaffer
23. Trent Cotchin
24. Kristian Jaksch
25. Jake Carlisle
26. Jackson Allen
27. Mitch Grigg
28. Joe Daniher
29. Josh Cowan
30. Greg Broughton
31. Matthew Arnot
32. Jackson Merrett
33.
34.
35.
36.
37.
38.
39.
40.

ROOKIE LIST

1. Lachlan Dalgleish
2. Timothy Broomhead
3. Daniel Markworth
4.
5.
6.

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LLAMAS FINAL LIST  Team Value (108) POST DELISTINGS

SENIOR LIST

1. Patrick Dangerfield
2. Jack Trengove
3. Chad Wingard
4. Andrew Gaff
5. Luke Brown
6. Jasper Pittard
7. Tom T Lynch
8. Bradley Hill
9. Jeremy Cameron
10. Max Gawn
11. Zac Smith
12. Devon Smith
13. Jake Batchelor
14. Jake Spencer
15. Clay Smith
16. Jackson Macrae
17. Andy Otten
18. Elliot Yeo
19. Terry Milera
20. Ben Jacobs
21. Jackson Thurlow
22. Ben Kennedy
23. Lachie Neale
24. Jimmy Toumpas
25. John Butcher
26. Sam Kerridge
27. Jack Hombsch
28. Tyrone Vickery
29. Daniel Gorringe
30. Jarryd Lyons
31. Jackson Ramsey
32. Shane Kersten
33. Brodie Murdoch
34. Michael Talia
35. Rory Laird
36.
37.
38.
39.
40.

ROOKIE LIST

1. Tom Temay
2. Tim O'Brien
3. Adam Carter
4.
5.
6.

The Hong Kong Dongs would like to announce their first delisting, Chad Cornes.

Kathmandu Delists:

Ashton Hams 
Andrew Embley
Brad Dick
Setana O'Halpin
Martin Mattner
Aaron Joesph

probably 1 more to come later

I would just throw out there

Niall McKeever
Ben Speight
Peter Yagmoor
Joel Wilkinson
Ben Mabon
Ayden Kennedy


Nat pick 70, promotion Jesse White

May as well post this. Strikers delist the following.

James Sellar
Aaron Davey
Peter Faulks
Sean Gregory
Jon Ceglar
Kepler Bradley

intended RP's

#65 Andrew Boston
#81 Anthony Morabito

Bangkok Crabs

Proposed Delistings

Richard Newell
Cam Eardly
Eric Wallace
Ariel Steinberg
Luke Lowden
Fraser McInnes

Rookie Promotions

TBA

Alright here's our list so far. Definitely a chance for players to be added to this list in the coming days/weeks.


Taiwan Dolphins

Delistings

Jared Brennan (ret)
Jason Blake (ret)
Brett Ebert (ret)
Joel Corey (ret)
Cameron Richardson
Nick Lower
Kyal Horsley
Alex Howson
Jack Osborn
Orren Stephensen
Leigh Osbourne
Alwyn Davey
Kyle Hardingham

Rookie upgrades
Nil

Senior list delisted
Tom Couch
Josh Growden

Rookie listed players delisted
Alex Forster

As far as I know, the only Tibetan players no longer on an AFL list

UAE TIGERS DELISTINGS
SEINOR LIST
Adam Selwood
Daniel Stewart
Patrick McGinnity
David Astbury

ROOKIE LIST
Tim McIntyre
Andrew Collins
Joel Hamling
Lin Jong

ROOKIE UPGRADES
71ND (Matt McDonough)

More to come...

Manila Folders

Likely Retirements & Delistings
Simon Black
Dean Brogan
Bret Thornton
Darren Pfeiffer
Nick Joyce (rookie)
James Magner
Sam Lonergan

Likely Rookie Promotions
Sam Dywer
Jack Hannath

LISTS UPDATED AS OF 30/10/2013 - GUYS PLEASE ONLY POST HERE YOUR DELISTINGS AND PLANNED ROOKIE PROMOTIONS

DEADLINE FOR DELISTINGS IS THE 15TH NOVEMBER.

DELISTINGS POSTED HERE CAN BE CHANGED UP UNTIL MIDNIGHT THE 15TH NOVEMBER WHEN I WILL FINALIZE THEM AND REMOVE THEM FROM YOUR TEAM LIST.

I WILL THEN POST ALL TEAM LISTS HERE WITH DELISTINGS WHICH WILL SHOW WHAT EACH PRE-DRAFT LIST LOOKS LIKE.

ROOKIE PROMOTIONS - PLEASE POST WHAT YOU PLAN - HOWEVER YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR MIND ON THIS, YOU MAKE THE CALL ON WHO TO PROMOTE WHEN IT IS UP TO THE PICK YOU WANT TO USE IN OUR NAT DRAFT TO PROMOTE SAID ROOK.

ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THIS PLEASE PM BB OR I, AND PLEASE GET THE LIST UP FOR US ASAP EVEN IF IT MAY CHANGE BEFORE THE DEADLINE IT WILL HELP TO HAVE IT SO WE CAN WORK OUT DRAFT ROUNDS.

We also delist Justin Hoskin and Tom Derickx.

PNG HeadHunters

Likely Retirements & Delistings
Jude Bolton
Ben Richmond
Tom Gillies
Tim Golds
Mark Nicoski
Karmichael Hunt
Joseph Redfern
Michael Close
Gideon Simon

Likely Rookie Promotions
Brandon Jack
Ben Richmond

Mongolian Lambs

Proposed Delistings
Nathan Lovett-Murray (ret)
Patrick Veszpremi (R)
Danny Butcher (R)
Taylor Hine
Daniel Pearce

Rookie Promotions
TBA


*Signifies delisting of rookie-listed player.



List vacancies
Senior list: 5 vacancies
Rookie list: 2 vacancies

BB will be sending everyone a PM to advise on the deadline and requirements for lodging your delistings prior to our nat draft.

this deadline has been extended to the day after the AFL final list lodgements due date of the 18th November so we will all have until midnight the 19th November to post our delistings in the thread.

key dates:

Thursday 14 November by 2pm - List Lodgement (2) and TPP Estimates.

Friday 15 November - Gillette AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) Commences.

Monday 18 November Delisted Primary List Draft Nomination Form Lodgement; Non retained rookie players draft nomination form lodgement, gillette AFL delisted free agency period (2) concludes

TUESDAY NOVEMBER 19TH MIDNIGHT - AXVS DELISTINGS DEADLINE

Thursday 21 November - NAB AFL Draft Selection Meeting (Gold Coast Convention Centre).

Just posting to let you know I've updated my list.

Added Davey and Hardingham to the delistments and have decided that given neither of the guys I was going to promote off the rookie list have played a game yet I won't promote them yet and instead wait until they play (if they do) and do it during the season if needed or next season.

This means I should have more space on my senior list to put a couple of players from the rookie draft straight onto the main list as it's likely I'll pick a few players who I could do that with.

no worries memph, but the only way you can promote a rookie mid season is if a senior player goes onto the long term injury list, then at the end of the season your promoted rookie goes back onto the rookie list.

you can however promote them in next seasons nat draft if you want to at that point.

Quote from: Colliwobblers on November 05, 2013, 06:05:05 PM
no worries memph, but the only way you can promote a rookie mid season is if a senior player goes onto the long term injury list, then at the end of the season your promoted rookie goes back onto the rookie list.

you can however promote them in next seasons nat draft if you want to at that point.

Yep, I know that mate. What I was getting at was I can't see us playing or needing to use Ellis-Yolmen or Hayes unless they
a) Get games
b) We have a long injury list

So I may as well keep them on the rookie list for another season.

sound thinking :) 

Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 05, 2013, 06:12:37 PM

Quote from: Colliwobblers on November 05, 2013, 06:05:05 PM
no worries memph, but the only way you can promote a rookie mid season is if a senior player goes onto the long term injury list, then at the end of the season your promoted rookie goes back onto the rookie list.

you can however promote them in next seasons nat draft if you want to at that point.

Yep, I know that mate. What I was getting at was I can't see us playing or needing to use Ellis-Yolmen or Hayes unless they
a) Get games
b) We have a long injury list

So I may as well keep them on the rookie list for another season.

Hey also when will we know how long our draft will be?

I would have thought we should first wait until the AFL does their National draft before we decide on how long ours is. For example there's no way we can have 90 NAT picks if the AFL teams only draft 60 players.

Is this the case. If so could our final delistments be after how long we know our NAT draft will be by any chance?

we might have to memph.

But we will stick to the deadline of the 19th novemember to post all your final delistings - this based on a 5 round national draft.

if we then find we cannot complete a 5 round national draft we are going to have to change more than just our delistings, so everything will be re-evaluated between BB and myself and we will probably have to have a coaches vote on how we do it.

We cannot simply cut the nat draft back to 4 rounds, as picks were traded in the 5th round.

we cannot just throw players for the rook/preseason pool into the nat draft because this was not how it was when people were making decisions on which picks to trade.

and we cannot just give the 5th round nat picks in the rookie/preseason draft due to the same reasons.

but we will have to do something, so we will work out all the possible option prior to starting our nat draft, and have the coaches vote on what we will be doing.

regardless of what we end up doing, if the nat draft changes from 5 rounds you will be asked to review your delistings and confirm them or change them prior to us starting the changed nat draft.

at this point, plan on a 5 round nat draft and post your delistings in full by the 19th november deadline, keeping in mind the deadline for the AFL delisted free agency period 2 is the 18th of november.

Ok no worries Colli that sounds like a good plan. My delistments will stay as is then unless Corey un-retires and Jolly doesn't find a club (both of which could possibly happen it seems).

As for 'proposed rookie upgrades'... Wouldnt mind upgrading Marco Paparone and Andrejs Everitt :)

Ok, I'll keep my official deli stings here in this post:

1. Nathan Lovett-Murray
2. Daniel Pearce
3. Taylor Hine
4. Patrick Veszpremi*
5. Danny Butcher*

--> Three free spaces on senior list as a result of trading Trent West & Jake Spencer & Brian Lake


Leaving me with six spaces to fill on the senior list, and two rookie spots.

Just a quick question here, do we need to notify you of which picks we intend to use in each draft?

Australian Ales Delisting

Senior Delistings
36. Derrick Wanganeen
37. Luke Mitchell
39. Steven Milne


Rookie Delisting
3. Jesse Crichton
5. Amos Frank

Tibetan Llamas officially delist players, should leave us with 5 ND picks and 3 Rookie?

Listed
Josh Growden
Tom Couch
Luke Russell
Sam Shaw
Tom Downie

Rookie List:
Sam Siggins
Alex Forster
Brett O'Hanlon

Quote from: tbagrocks on November 15, 2013, 09:36:04 PM
Tibetan Llamas officially delist players, should leave us with 5 ND picks and 3 Rookie?

Listed
Josh Growden
Tom Couch
Luke Russell
Sam Shaw
Tom Downie

Rookie List:
Sam Siggins
Alex Forster
Brett O'Hanlon

check your list in the official trade thread tbag, if you see an error let BB or I know, but you have 41 players currently on your senior list, so by delisting 5 you only have 4 nat draft picks to use. (which includes for promoting rooks).

if you want to use 5 picks you will need to delist 6 off your senior list.

Quote from: Toga on November 15, 2013, 06:55:38 PM
Just a quick question here, do we need to notify you of which picks we intend to use in each draft?

No Toga, it is helpful to me to know if you intend to promote rooks during the draft, but you do not need to tell us your draft plan.

You can use part nat picks to fill up your senior list and part preseason draft picks to fill up your senior list, a combination of both or all or one of the other.

ou dont need to tell us that.

i assume the first round of axvs preseason/rookie draft picks, will be preseason afl drafted players and left over players from our pool, and will go on clubs senior lists, but i do not need to know exactly what everyone plans to do.

everyone better know themselves pretty soon what they plan tho :)

All good Colli, thanks for the clarification :)

I've figured out my game plan for next week now, it won't include upgrading a rookie at this stage with Kyle Hartigan the only guy I would consider worth promoting, but my backs will be pretty strong without him I think. That's all I'll reveal for the moment! :P

Turkish Gazelles

Delistings
Todd Banfield
Andrew Krakouer
Josh Tynan
Jordan Russell

Retirements
Daniel Kerr

UAE Tigers Delistings
Senior List
Adam Selwood (Retired)
Daniel Stewart
Patrick McGinnity
David Astbury

Rookie List
Tim McIntyre
Andrew Collins
Joel Hamling
Lin Jong

Rookie Upgrades
Matt McDonough (71ND)

So this means I have 4 Senior spots on my list and 5 on my rookie list.
So,
Senior - 71ND (McDonough gets upgraded then traded for Daw), Paul Puopolo who I get in trade period 2, Rookie 1 and Rookie 21
Rookie - Rookie 55, Rookie 56, Rookie 58, Rookie 68, Rookie 87.

EXPLANATION OF DELISTINGS / DRAFTING / LIST MANAGEMENT


DELISTINGS:

You must lodge your delistings by the deadline of midnight November 19.

Your delistings must be for both you senior listed players and your rookie listed players.

You need to check your current lits here: http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,86823.msg1199346.html#msg1199346

This is the only accurate record of your list. If you feel there are any errors immediately PM BB and myself.

In order to take national draft picks and preseason/rookie draft picks you need to have the spaces on your list beneath the caps of 40 and 6 to fit the drafted players in.

DRAFTING

The official draft order:  http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,86823.msg1199347.html#msg1199347

You can take as many of the national draft picks and rookie/preseason draft picks that are available to your club as you have room on your list to take. Once you have filled your list back up to the caps of 40 and 6 you can no longer draft and will have to pass on any further picks, you cannot draft players to take your list past the caps of 40 and 6.

You can use national draft picks to promote players on your rookie list to your senior list.

Every player you draft in the national draft MUST ONLY go onto your senior list.

Players you draft in the preseason/rookie draft which are ( afl 2013 preseason drafted, left over players from the 2013 axvs national draft, axvs 2013 delisted players still on afl lists, axvs players in the pool from 2012 drafts) can go on EITHER your senior list or your rookie list.

Players you draft in the preseason/rookie draft which are afl 2013 rookie drafted players MUST ONLY go on your rookie list.

* With this in mind when you are delisting consider not only the spots you need on your senior list for national draft picks you want to take, but also, rookie promotions you wish to make, AND preseason/rookie picks you intend to take where you will want the player you pick to go onto your senior list.

for example if you have rookie pick #1 you are going to want a spot on your senior list for that player or he will be stuck on your rookie list for the entire 2014 season unable to play unless you have a long term injury and upgrade him mid season.

THERE WILL BE 5 COMPLETE ROUNDS IN EACH OF THE DRAFTS. NO 6TH ROUND.

LIST MANAGEMENT POST TRADE PERIOD #2

Due to this seasons change of being able to trade uneven numbers of players, in trade period 2 some teams will end up trading out more players than they trade in, and likewise some teams will end up trading more players in than they trade out.

At the completion of trade period 2 lists will be brought back to the cap limits of 40 and 6 in two simple steps.

STEP 1. The teams with more than the cap of 40 and 6 players on their lists willhave to delist players to take their lists back to the cap of 40 and 6. 

NOTE: These teams cannot delist players they have drafted in either draft in 2013. They must be other players.

STEP 2. The teams with less than the cap of 40 and 6 players on their lists will have to take picks from the remaining pool of players to bring their lists back up to the cap of 40 and 6.

NOTE: These picks will happen in the original pre trade draft order until all lists are full.

If you have any questions or do not understand any of the above please PM BB or myself asap.

The player lists for every team will be posted in the official DRAFT thread as soon as the delisting deadline is reached and everyone will be able to see their list after delistings and see exactly how many spots they have for drafting.

Due to this being the first season of having to delist unless BB disagrees strongly I will allow in the time between the delisting deadline and commencement of our national draft teams to delist further players if once they see their final list they feel they made a mistake and need more room on their lists for draft picks.

THIS DOES NOT CHANGE THE FACT YOU MUST POST YOUR DELISTINGS BY THE DEADLINE.

KEEP IN MIND THIS OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE THINGS WILL BE VERY VERY SHORT SO BETTER YOU THINK ABOUT IT NOW AND GET IT RIGHT BEFORE THE DEADLINE.

Vipers Delistings - possibly one more to come depending on pick trades. And subject to change pre-deadline

SENIORS:

Robin Nahas
Cale Morton
Tim Mohr
Christian Howard
Anthony Miles

ROOKIES:

Andrew McInnes


ROOKIE PROMOTIONS:

Josh Bruce

Final Retirements & Delistings
Simon Black
Dean Brogan
Bret Thornton
Darren Pfeiffer
Nick Joyce (rookie)
James Magner
Sam Lonergan (rookie)

Rookie Promotions
Sam Dywer
Jack Hannath

if Miles doesnt get picked up it will be a joke and he will kill it in whichever reserves team he plays for

Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 16, 2013, 09:57:48 PM
if Miles doesnt get picked up it will be a joke and he will kill it in whichever reserves team he plays for

yeah devo to have to delist him, but its him or blease or palmer or whiley and whiley had a much better season and it seems miles just didnt cut it at the top level even tho he was so good at neafl level he was tagged every game.

seriously considering taking a punt on miles and cutting palmer. never going to get a game for me anyway and had plenty of time to get good, but has not...

if miles doesnt get picked up he will go to vfl or sanfl according to him, but even if he does get picked up he'll be a rookie probably.

expected big things from miles myself but sometimes it just doesnt work out..

I AM GOING TO BEGIN UPDATING TEAM LISTS WITH DELISTINGS ON THIS THREAD ONLY.

SO DO NOT DELETE ANY POSTS YOU HAVE HERE PLEASE AND BE SURE TO POST AGAIN YOUR FINAL DELISTINGS

ESPECIALLY IF IT IS DIFFERENT FROM YOUR PREVIOUS DELISTING POST - BUT DO NOT DELETE THE OLD POST.

THIS WILL ALLOW ME TO SEE WHAT YOU HAVE CHANGED AND ALTER YOUR LIST ACCORDINGLY.

he wasnt given a fair go though they didn't give him a decent run of games prob only being delisted due to GWS having no room

Delisted Howard and Nahas??

Quote from: whatlez on November 17, 2013, 12:48:18 PM
Delisted Howard and Nahas??

not sure yet, nahas almost a certainty howard and adam kennedy in the mix for the other spot yes.

as with puoplo i just don't need endless depth of ordinary players for my fwd line, have 5 or 6 solid options to start and 3 very good youths coming through.

Quote from: whatlez on November 17, 2013, 12:48:18 PM
Delisted Howard and Nahas??

And Mohr.

He's very lucky that he has players to choose from. I'd love to be able to not delist 10+ players but none of them will be playing AFL next season.

May look to poach some of these guys in the rookie draft :P

Quote from: Colliwobblers on November 17, 2013, 12:50:14 PM

Quote from: whatlez on November 17, 2013, 12:48:18 PM
Delisted Howard and Nahas??

not sure yet, nahas almost a certainty howard and adam kennedy in the mix for the other spot yes.

as with puoplo i just don't need endless depth of ordinary players for my fwd line, have 5 or 6 solid options to start and 3 very good youths coming through.

I would of made an offer for Nahas....

the Vipers may have failed to perform last season, but the list is solid. I have to cut half decent players just to draft my high picks (4 in top 21 nat) and rook 4 and 17.

Mohr will never score well so I would get rid of him.

Nahas and Howard would probably make the cut for me...

Quote from: whatlez on November 17, 2013, 01:55:01 PM
Mohr will never score well so I would get rid of him.

Nahas and Howard would probably make the cut for me...

makes for a deeper rookie draft pool :)

Got no rookie picks :(

Quote from: Colliwobblers on November 17, 2013, 02:04:13 PM

Quote from: whatlez on November 17, 2013, 01:55:01 PM
Mohr will never score well so I would get rid of him.

Nahas and Howard would probably make the cut for me...

makes for a deeper rookie draft pool :)

Yes it will be interesting to see if there are any decent delisted players available in the rookie draft. Might have my eye on a few of them ;)

The Eskimos final delisting is Alan Didak, Anthony Morabito will also not be elevated.

Your delisting Mora?

Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 17, 2013, 06:04:52 PM
Your delisting Mora?

No, but I said earlier that he was going to be elevated onto the senior list, he is now going to stay on the rookie list. Boston will still be elevated however.

Quote from: KoopKicka on October 24, 2013, 03:21:21 PM
Kathmandu Delists:

Ashton Hams 
Andrew Embley
Brad Dick
Setana O'Halpin
Martin Mattner
Aaron Joesph

probably 1 more to come later

Quote from: KoopKicka on October 30, 2013, 09:23:12 PM
We also delist Justin Hoskin and Tom Derickx.

Quote from: KoopKicka on November 17, 2013, 06:03:35 PM
The Eskimos final delisting is Alan Didak, Anthony Morabito will also not be elevated.

So Koop am I correct these are you final delistings:

Ashton Hams 
Andrew Embley
Brad Dick
Setana O'Halpin
Martin Mattner
Aaron Joesph
Justin Hoskin
Tom Derickx
Alan Didak

Quote from: Colliwobblers on November 17, 2013, 06:09:33 PM

Quote from: KoopKicka on October 24, 2013, 03:21:21 PM
Kathmandu Delists:

Ashton Hams 
Andrew Embley
Brad Dick
Setana O'Halpin
Martin Mattner
Aaron Joesph

probably 1 more to come later

Quote from: KoopKicka on October 30, 2013, 09:23:12 PM
We also delist Justin Hoskin and Tom Derickx.

Quote from: KoopKicka on November 17, 2013, 06:03:35 PM
The Eskimos final delisting is Alan Didak, Anthony Morabito will also not be elevated.

So Koop am I correct these are you final delistings:

Ashton Hams 
Andrew Embley
Brad Dick
Setana O'Halpin
Martin Mattner
Aaron Joesph
Justin Hoskin
Tom Derickx
Alan Didak

That is correct.

ill update your list on this thread next. keeping im mind smith wont move until after the drafts in period 2.

Taiwan Dolphins

Final Delistings

Jared Brennan (ret)
Jason Blake (ret)
Brett Ebert (ret)
Joel Corey (ret)
Cameron Richardson
Nick Lower
Kyal Horsley
Alex Howson
Jack Osborn
Orren Stephensen
Leigh Osbourne
Alwyn Davey
Kyle Hardingham
Jason Porplyzia

Rookie upgrades
Cameron Ellis-Yolmen

Changed my mind and decided I want to upgrade Ellis-Yolmen now due to our midfield shortage. Hayes and Bourke stay on the rookie list.

Also after figuring out how many picks I have I have decided to chop Jason Porpylzia and Kyle Hardingham (who could be serviceable players for other clubs) due to them not fitting our plan.

The Porpoise is too old and only has 1 or 2 more seasons left while Hardingham can't get a game at the Bombers and we're developing youth and have other older players who can play if need be.

I believe I still have 36 minutes before the deadline so I take Tom Derickx out of my delistings back onto my senior list please. :)

Shouldnt delistings be after the drafts so we know who gets picked up?

**pending updated delisting list here......waiting on a late trade proposal in light of the trade deadline extension

Isn't the deadline for delistings on the 19th?

Quote from: Noz on November 18, 2013, 05:22:13 PM
Isn't the deadline for delistings on the 19th?

l hope you're right......my brain is a bit scrambled at the moment

Quote from: nostradamus on November 18, 2013, 05:23:53 PM

Quote from: Noz on November 18, 2013, 05:22:13 PM
Isn't the deadline for delistings on the 19th?

l hope you're right......my brain is a bit scrambled at the moment

All AXVS Clubs must announce in this thread or via PM to administrators their delistings for BOTH lists by midnight AEST November 19th 2013.

The TRADE deadline was today.

Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 18, 2013, 05:27:17 PM

Quote from: nostradamus on November 18, 2013, 05:23:53 PM

Quote from: Noz on November 18, 2013, 05:22:13 PM
Isn't the deadline for delistings on the 19th?

l hope you're right......my brain is a bit scrambled at the moment

All AXVS Clubs must announce in this thread or via PM to administrators their delistings for BOTH lists by midnight AEST November 19th 2013.

The TRADE deadline was today.

cool

Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 18, 2013, 04:37:37 PM
Shouldnt delistings be after the drafts so we know who gets picked up?

Quote from: Ricochet on November 18, 2013, 05:29:17 PM

Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 18, 2013, 04:37:37 PM
Shouldnt delistings be after the drafts so we know who gets picked up?

NO.

we are as much like the AFL as we can be, and that is not how it works in the AFL.

you take a gamble on either keeping a player who has been delisted and hoping he gets picked up. (if not you delist him after trade period 2 and get a compo pick from the remaining player pool.

or you can delist him ahead of the drafts and if he gets picked up you can try to draft him in our rookie/presesaon draft. or just draft a replacement for him.

Delistings come before drafts. Always will.

@ KOOP - just post the FINAL COMPLETE LIST of your delistings before the deadline and I will adjust anything you have changed.

but POST THE COMPLETE FINAL LIST - please , dont just say what you change.

@ JB - same as what I said above to Rico.

The AFL doesn't draft then delist nor do we. You need to make room on your list to draft. You don't have to delist if you don't want to but you can't draft players in excess of your list caps.

Quote from: Colliwobblers on November 18, 2013, 06:33:28 PM
@ KOOP - just post the FINAL COMPLETE LIST of your delistings before the deadline and I will adjust anything you have changed.

but POST THE COMPLETE FINAL LIST - please , dont just say what you change.

@ JB - same as what I said above to Rico.

The AFL doesn't draft then delist nor do we. You need to make room on your list to draft. You don't have to delist if you don't want to but you can't draft players in excess of your list caps.

Yea but we have to pick what the AFL draft, what if I want to try and keep Wangeneen. Do I keep him on my list and if he doesnt get picked up he just sits on my list for a whole year in name only? We csnt exactly be like the afl in this as they can pick whoever they likehowever we are restricted to afl listed players only.

Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 18, 2013, 06:53:17 PM

Quote from: Colliwobblers on November 18, 2013, 06:33:28 PM
@ KOOP - just post the FINAL COMPLETE LIST of your delistings before the deadline and I will adjust anything you have changed.

but POST THE COMPLETE FINAL LIST - please , dont just say what you change.

@ JB - same as what I said above to Rico.

The AFL doesn't draft then delist nor do we. You need to make room on your list to draft. You don't have to delist if you don't want to but you can't draft players in excess of your list caps.

Yea but we have to pick what the AFL draft, what if I want to try and keep Wangeneen. Do I keep him on my list and if he doesnt get picked up he just sits on my list for a whole year in name only? We csnt exactly be like the afl in this as they can pick whoever they likehowever we are restricted to afl listed players only.

I understand JB but to delist after the drafts is a far different scenario than the difference you point out. And we did commit to making this competition more than just another fantasy footy game.

List management is an integral and important part of this competition, we want it to have the feel of you running a football club, not just adding up 15 players points each season.

In answer to your question on wangeneen, you can hold him, if he does not get picked up you can delist him / have to delist him, after trade period #2 and then you get a compo pick for him from the remaining player pool.

Same as last season where after drafting then trading we had to delist players that were delisted and not picked up and take compo picks.

It is a risk for you but one you have to make a decision on before the drafts. And the risk, is part of list management.

I might delist anthony miles, kid is a gun, could get picked up in the AFL preseason draft, and one of you nab him....

risk i have to take, or i could hold him, then if he doesnt get picked up, i have to delist him later and get a much lesser player with my compo pick at the end of trade period #2 than i would have been able to get if i delisted him before the drafts.

everyone is in the same boat.

Yep thats cool, I just wasn't sure with the compo picks thats all.

Following players will be upgraded of the rookie list through the national draft

Dane Rampe - National pick 67
Mitch Clisby - National pick 90

Will upgrade Jesse Hogan with #72

Also will delist Jacob Townsend

Pretty handy upgrades there JB

I know I already PMd these to you Colli, but just posting again here so it is easier to find. Made some changes anyway for you to update.

Senior List Delistings:
Shane Tuck
Joel Macdonald
Ian Callinan

Rookie List Delistings:
Jayden Pitt

Rookie List Upgrades:
National Pick #80 (Round 5) to upgrade Michael Evans to the senior list (who then gets traded for Andrew Carrazzo next period)
Rookie Pick #80 (Round 5) to upgrade Jed Bews to the senior list

Cheers.

have snt you a pm you cannot use rookie draft picks to upgrade rookies - only nat draft picks.

Quote from: Adamant on November 19, 2013, 01:17:55 AM
I know I already PMd these to you Colli, but just posting again here so it is easier to find. Made some changes anyway for you to update.

Senior List Delistings:
Shane Tuck
Joel Macdonald
Ian Callinan

Rookie List Delistings:
Jayden Pitt

Rookie List Upgrades:
National Pick #80 (Round 5) to upgrade Michael Evans to the senior list (who then gets traded for Andrew Carrazzo next period)
Rookie Pick #80 (Round 5) to upgrade Jed Bews to the senior list

Cheers.

KL Crocs

Senior Delistings
19. Ahmed Saad
34. Mitch Morton
38. Graham Johncock
40. Justin Koschitzke

Bangkok Crabs

Delistings

Richard Newell
Cam Eardley
Jason Ashby
Luke Lowden
Fraser McInnes
Eric Wallace
Steven Morris
Ariel Steinberg
Leroy Jetta
Jesse Stringer

**just so people know........you can't do any rookie promotions past Nat 80, beause thats as far as he draft goes

Quote from: nostradamus on November 19, 2013, 01:09:09 PM
**just so people know........you can't do any rookie promotions past Nat 80, beause thats as far as he draft goes

If I'm correct there's an extra round that "may or may not exist" purely for rookie upgrades? Idk if that's right though

Quote from: Toga on November 19, 2013, 01:49:09 PM

Quote from: nostradamus on November 19, 2013, 01:09:09 PM
**just so people know........you can't do any rookie promotions past Nat 80, beause thats as far as he draft goes

If I'm correct there's an extra round that "may or may not exist" purely for rookie upgrades? Idk if that's right though

Colli said this in the AXVS announcement PM:
THERE WILL BE 5 COMPLETE ROUNDS IN EACH OF THE DRAFTS. NO 6TH ROUND.

Does anyone know if there's a list anywhere to see all the planned rookie elevations for AFL clubs at the National Draft?

If the Lions are going to elevate Hayes I'd actually be keen to do the same but can't seem to find this out.

Quote from: nostradamus on November 19, 2013, 01:09:09 PM
**just so people know........you can't do any rookie promotions past Nat 80, beause thats as far as he draft goes

Well that stuffs up my plans.

Quote from: Noz on November 19, 2013, 02:22:49 PM

Quote from: nostradamus on November 19, 2013, 01:09:09 PM
**just so people know........you can't do any rookie promotions past Nat 80, beause thats as far as he draft goes

Well that stuffs up my plans.

yeah we'd planned on using Nat 83 to upgrade Markworth, but now have to use a good pick to do it :(

....oh well, rules are rules and they're the same for all of us

AFL teams are only likely to use 50-60 picks in the National Draft according to the draft chat with Cal Twomey on afl.com.au this morning.

In fact I think he said he thought they would only use 51 live picks at some point which could hurt this draft.

Can I use a rookie pick to upgrade or one of my booster picks to upgrade cos I dont want to use #38

Guess Jack Martin can stay on the rookie list then :(

Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 19, 2013, 04:01:48 PM
Guess Jack Martin can stay on the rookie list then :(

I'll give you my spare Pick 76 for him :P

Quote from: nostradamus on November 19, 2013, 02:49:09 PM

Quote from: Noz on November 19, 2013, 02:22:49 PM

Quote from: nostradamus on November 19, 2013, 01:09:09 PM
**just so people know........you can't do any rookie promotions past Nat 80, beause thats as far as he draft goes

Well that stuffs up my plans.

yeah we'd planned on using Nat 83 to upgrade Markworth, but now have to use a good pick to do it :(

....oh well, rules are rules and they're the same for all of us

Yes this is correct. Draft will only go up to pick 80 and all rookie promotions must be done in the NAT Draft, not the Rookie Draft.

Can we have an extra night trading?

Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 19, 2013, 04:16:45 PM
Can we have an extra night trading?

No, the first trade window is closed now. We will need some time to update the lists and go over them before drafting begins on Thursday.

You will just have to wait until the second period opens.

Excellent news.

If teams are upgrading players from rookie list in the 30's that means more players to choose from with all my picks in the 40's :D

I'm probably the only team to benefit from this though.

I might actually get to pick a draftee with my national picks now lol

Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 19, 2013, 04:39:41 PM
Excellent news.

If teams are upgrading players from rookie list in the 30's that means more players to choose from with all my picks in the 40's :D

I'm probably the only team to benefit from this though.

Nah, I also read Colli's announcements :P

Gazelles will now make the following changes:

Mitchell Clisby upgrade with pick 67
Dane Rampe upgrade with pick 52

With live picks now 41, 42, 43, 44 set to fill up the rest of my squad.

Quote from: BB67th on November 19, 2013, 04:27:34 PM

Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 19, 2013, 04:16:45 PM
Can we have an extra night trading?

No, the first trade window is closed now. We will need some time to update the lists and go over them before drafting begins on Thursday.

You will just have to wait until the second period opens.

The doesnt really help me with rookie list upgrades does it  ::)

i need everyones complete lists of delistings, announcing your rookie upgrades is appreciated but not required.

@ JB i feel for you but I did send out the drafting trading and list management rules many times prior to the close of trade period #1.

you would be wise to upgrade jack martin no matter which pick it requires you to use :)

they say this draft is not too deep in terms of talent so maybe using picks in the 30's to upgrade rooks will net you a better outcome anyway if the rook you are upgrading is likely to perform next season.

this season was always going to be tough, given it is our first in delisting and managing your lists there was bound to be people who missed a key point on how it all works and end up not getting the outcome they would ideally of had.

But I can honestly say I did get the information out many times and as early as before last season when we set it all up.

This is my final official delistings admins!

Quote from: Toga on November 15, 2013, 06:54:54 PM
1. Nathan Lovett-Murray
2. Daniel Pearce
3. Taylor Hine
4. Patrick Veszpremi*
5. Danny Butcher*

*denotes rookie-listed player

Leaving me with six spaces to fill on the senior list, and two rookie spots.

JB has being the clever man he is discovered a loop hole in the system which allowed him to trade out a rook and a senior player to a competitor , then trade them back in on different lists.

This used no list movments as the players went back where they came from but done in a way that they went back on different lists (rook/senior).

Thus promoting a rookie without using a nat draft pick.

While the rule was not in existance to prevent this prior to his discovery of the loophole JB has made the decision easy for BB and I by being sportsmanlike nad has no complaints about us closing this loophole now.

So while there is an instance where by the rule stating you have to put a player you trade in onto the same list as the player you trade out.

This new rule comes into effect immediately.

* You cannot do double trades or multiple trades involving the same players in trade period #2 where the end result is you having a player who started trade period #2 on your rookie list ending trade period #2 on your senior list, thus being promoted through trading.

Any questions give BB or I a PM but I think it is pretty straight forward.

Can I get an update on my list post delistings? Some teams have been, but mine seems like it's the norm?

Ashton Hams 
FINAL DELISTINGS

Andrew Embley
Brad Dick
Setana O'Halpin
Martin Mattner
Aaron Joesph
Justin Hoskin
Alan Didak

ROOKIE PROMOTION

#74 Andrew Boston

Thanks CW :)

To add, Koop's team list has been fully updated and he just posted his just then...

Quote from: whatlez on November 19, 2013, 09:43:46 PM
To add, Koop's team list has been fully updated and he just posted his just then...

I posted mine first on the thread, but have been chopping and changing :)

Quote from: whatlez on November 19, 2013, 09:40:31 PM
Can I get an update on my list post delistings? Some teams have been, but mine seems like it's the norm?

Colli said he will be working through them tonight. I don't know what stage each list is at individually, so you might want to chuck him a pm to find out more.

Manila Folders final delistings (same as on opening page)

Simon Black
Dean Brogan
Bret Thornton
Darren Pfeiffer
Nick Joyce (rookie)
James Magner
Sam Lonergan (rookie)

Quote from: whatlez on October 25, 2013, 07:02:41 PM

Niall McKeever
Ben Speight
Peter Yagmoor
Joel Wilkinson
Ben Mabon
Ayden Kennedy


Nat pick 70, promotion Jesse White

Not sure if I will have 1 spot on my senior list or not.

Quote from: whatlez on November 19, 2013, 09:49:36 PM

Quote from: whatlez on October 25, 2013, 07:02:41 PM

Niall McKeever
Ben Speight
Peter Yagmoor
Joel Wilkinson
Ben Mabon
Ayden Kennedy


Nat pick 70, promotion Jesse White

Not sure if I will have 1 spot on my senior list or not.

Not that hard to work out. :P

I got a quick question. Say I have 40 players on my senior list pre trading. I don't delist one player on senior list, but trade in 3 extra players... Which 3 players would go on the rookie list? (The players I traded in aren't on the rookie list either)

Quote from: whatlez on November 19, 2013, 09:52:51 PM
I got a quick question. Say I have 40 players on my senior list pre trading. I don't delist one player on senior list, but trade in 3 extra players... Which 3 players would go on the rookie list? (The players I traded in aren't on the rookie list either)

Youd have to delist 3 extra players from your senior list, Im doing your list management for you, gimme 2 seconds.

good question Lez........l have another one too.

Do we have to post our team list on a thread somewhere? It's on our team thread, but includes all traded players (including period 2)

Quote from: KoopKicka on November 19, 2013, 09:59:04 PM

Quote from: whatlez on November 19, 2013, 09:52:51 PM
I got a quick question. Say I have 40 players on my senior list pre trading. I don't delist one player on senior list, but trade in 3 extra players... Which 3 players would go on the rookie list? (The players I traded in aren't on the rookie list either)

Youd have to delist 3 extra players from your senior list, Im doing your list management for you, gimme 2 seconds.

With the list I have, I cannot upgrade Jesse White as I have no room on my senior list...

This is what I make of your list at the moment Lez
1. Jack Redden 6
2. Taylor Walker 9
3. Michael Barlow 6
4. Scott Selwood 6
5. Daniel Nicholson 4
6. Todd Goldstein 6
7. Jack Watts 6
8. Travis Boak 6
9. Dylan Shiel 4
10. Liam Shiels 4
11. Aaron Hall
12. Stewart Crameri 6
13. Brodie Smith 4
14. John Patton 2
15. Tom McDonald 4
16. Billy longer 2
17. Alex Fasolo 6
18. Jarryn Geary 4
19. Jared Petrenko 4
20. Sam Day 1
21. Lachlan Hansen 4
22. Joshua Bootsma 1
23. Ryan Harwood 4
24. Jordan Lewis
25. Joshua Green 2
26. Ben Stratton 4
27. Bradley Mckenzie 2
28. Sam Frost 1
29. Maverick Weller 2
30. Thomas Sheridan 2
31. Seb Tape 1
32. Sam Dunnell 1
33. Rory Thompson 2
34. NAT 54
35. Jamie Bennell 1
36. Matt White 2
37. Lachie Whitfield 3
38. Oliver Wines 2
39. Sam Colquhoun 1
40. NAT 70 (RP) Jesse White

ROOKIE LIST

1. Rookie 7
2. Rookie 37
3. Rookie 44
4. Rookie 62
5. Tanner Smith 1
6. Rookie 54


Remember that players traded in period 2 dont count yet. This means you use 1 NAT pick + 1 to upgrade White, you also take 5 rook picks, if you want R7 to go onto your senior list, you need to delist another senior list player, hope that helps.

Can someone do my list as well?  :)

you do not move players between your lists. You have a senior and a rookie list. the only way a player moves from your rookie list to your senior list is by you using a national draft pick to promote him. a player NEVER goes from your senior list to your rookie list.

the draft rules are clear and posted everywhere and pm to you all. these explain which players from which draft can go on which lists.

you delist players to take your lists under the caps 40 and 6. in order to be able to draft players to those lists.

you can NOT drat players once your list reaches its caps of 40 and 6.

YOU DO NOT HAVE TO POST YOUR UPDATED TEAM LIST.

YOU DO HAVE TO POST YOUR COMPLETE LIST OF PLAYERS YOU ARE DELISTING.

YOUR TEAM LIST AS OF RIGHT NOW IS ON THE FIRST PAGE OF THIS THREAD. HERE:

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,86825.msg1199545.html#msg1199545

THOSE TEAM LISTS INCLUDE THE DELISTINGS I HAVE PROCESSED WHICH ARE LISTED HERE :

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,86825.msg1199381.html#msg1199381


THESE TEAMS THAT HAVE ANNOUNCED DELISTINGS WHICH I HAVE PROCESSED CAN CHANGE THEM UP UNTIL TONIGHTS DEADLINE.

Please ask if you are unclear we only get one go at this then it is done.

Here is the actual full details you were sent in a PM you must not have read  ::)


EXPLANATION OF DELISTINGS / DRAFTING / LIST MANAGEMENT


DELISTINGS:

You must lodge your delistings by the deadline of midnight November 19.

Your delistings must be for both you senior listed players and your rookie listed players.

You need to check your current lits here: http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,86823.msg1199346.html#msg1199346

This is the only accurate record of your list. If you feel there are any errors immediately PM BB and myself.

In order to take national draft picks and preseason/rookie draft picks you need to have the spaces on your list beneath the caps of 40 and 6 to fit the drafted players in.

DRAFTING

The official draft order:  http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,86823.msg1199347.html#msg1199347

You can take as many of the national draft picks and rookie/preseason draft picks that are available to your club as you have room on your list to take. Once you have filled your list back up to the caps of 40 and 6 you can no longer draft and will have to pass on any further picks, you cannot draft players to take your list past the caps of 40 and 6.

You can use national draft picks to promote players on your rookie list to your senior list.

Every player you draft in the national draft MUST ONLY go onto your senior list.

Players you draft in the preseason/rookie draft which are ( afl 2013 preseason drafted, left over players from the 2013 axvs national draft, axvs 2013 delisted players still on afl lists, axvs players in the pool from 2012 drafts) can go on EITHER your senior list or your rookie list.

Players you draft in the preseason/rookie draft which are afl 2013 rookie drafted players MUST ONLY go on your rookie list.

* With this in mind when you are delisting consider not only the spots you need on your senior list for national draft picks you want to take, but also, rookie promotions you wish to make, AND preseason/rookie picks you intend to take where you will want the player you pick to go onto your senior list.

for example if you have rookie pick #1 you are going to want a spot on your senior list for that player or he will be stuck on your rookie list for the entire 2014 season unable to play unless you have a long term injury and upgrade him mid season.

THERE WILL BE 5 COMPLETE ROUNDS IN EACH OF THE DRAFTS. NO 6TH ROUND.

LIST MANAGEMENT POST TRADE PERIOD #2

Due to this seasons change of being able to trade uneven numbers of players, in trade period 2 some teams will end up trading out more players than they trade in, and likewise some teams will end up trading more players in than they trade out.

At the completion of trade period 2 lists will be brought back to the cap limits of 40 and 6 in two simple steps.

STEP 1. The teams with more than the cap of 40 and 6 players on their lists willhave to delist players to take their lists back to the cap of 40 and 6. 

NOTE: These teams cannot delist players they have drafted in either draft in 2013. They must be other players.

STEP 2. The teams with less than the cap of 40 and 6 players on their lists will have to take picks from the remaining pool of players to bring their lists back up to the cap of 40 and 6.

NOTE: These picks will happen in the original pre trade draft order until all lists are full.

If you have any questions or do not understand any of the above please PM BB or myself asap.

The player lists for every team will be posted in the official DRAFT thread as soon as the delisting deadline is reached and everyone will be able to see their list after delistings and see exactly how many spots they have for drafting.

Due to this being the first season of having to delist unless BB disagrees strongly I will allow in the time between the delisting deadline and commencement of our national draft teams to delist further players if once they see their final list they feel they made a mistake and need more room on their lists for draft picks.

THIS DOES NOT CHANGE THE FACT YOU MUST POST YOUR DELISTINGS BY THE DEADLINE.

KEEP IN MIND THIS OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE THINGS WILL BE VERY VERY SHORT SO BETTER YOU THINK ABOUT IT NOW AND GET IT RIGHT BEFORE THE DEADLINE.

Quote from: Noz on November 19, 2013, 10:04:55 PM
Can someone do my list as well?  :)

Give me about 5 minutes Noz, unless CW already has an updated version

Quote from: KoopKicka on November 19, 2013, 10:03:30 PM
This is what I make of your list at the moment Lez
1. Jack Redden 6
2. Taylor Walker 9
3. Michael Barlow 6
4. Scott Selwood 6
5. Daniel Nicholson 4
6. Todd Goldstein 6
7. Jack Watts 6
8. Travis Boak 6
9. Dylan Shiel 4
10. Liam Shiels 4
11. Aaron Hall
12. Stewart Crameri 6
13. Brodie Smith 4
14. John Patton 2
15. Tom McDonald 4
16. Billy longer 2
17. Alex Fasolo 6
18. Jarryn Geary 4
19. Jared Petrenko 4
20. Sam Day 1
21. Lachlan Hansen 4
22. Joshua Bootsma 1
23. Ryan Harwood 4
24. Jordan Lewis
25. Joshua Green 2
26. Ben Stratton 4
27. Bradley Mckenzie 2
28. Sam Frost 1
29. Maverick Weller 2
30. Thomas Sheridan 2
31. Seb Tape 1
32. Sam Dunnell 1
33. Rory Thompson 2
34. NAT 54
35. Jamie Bennell 1
36. Matt White 2
37. Lachie Whitfield 3
38. Oliver Wines 2
39. Sam Colquhoun 1
40. NAT 70 (RP) Jesse White

ROOKIE LIST

1. Rookie 7
2. Rookie 37
3. Rookie 44
4. Rookie 62
5. Tanner Smith 1
6. Rookie 54


Remember that players traded in period 2 dont count yet. This means you use 1 NAT pick + 1 to upgrade White, you also take 5 rook picks, if you want R7 to go onto your senior list, you need to delist another senior list player, hope that helps.

That doesn't include Hickey and Ibbotson. But has Sam Colquon. So what gets priority, Nat pick 54 or rookie promotion 70?

Quote from: whatlez on November 19, 2013, 10:07:45 PM

Quote from: KoopKicka on November 19, 2013, 10:03:30 PM
This is what I make of your list at the moment Lez
1. Jack Redden 6
2. Taylor Walker 9
3. Michael Barlow 6
4. Scott Selwood 6
5. Daniel Nicholson 4
6. Todd Goldstein 6
7. Jack Watts 6
8. Travis Boak 6
9. Dylan Shiel 4
10. Liam Shiels 4
11. Aaron Hall
12. Stewart Crameri 6
13. Brodie Smith 4
14. John Patton 2
15. Tom McDonald 4
16. Billy longer 2
17. Alex Fasolo 6
18. Jarryn Geary 4
19. Jared Petrenko 4
20. Sam Day 1
21. Lachlan Hansen 4
22. Joshua Bootsma 1
23. Ryan Harwood 4
24. Jordan Lewis
25. Joshua Green 2
26. Ben Stratton 4
27. Bradley Mckenzie 2
28. Sam Frost 1
29. Maverick Weller 2
30. Thomas Sheridan 2
31. Seb Tape 1
32. Sam Dunnell 1
33. Rory Thompson 2
34. NAT 54
35. Jamie Bennell 1
36. Matt White 2
37. Lachie Whitfield 3
38. Oliver Wines 2
39. Sam Colquhoun 1
40. NAT 70 (RP) Jesse White

ROOKIE LIST

1. Rookie 7
2. Rookie 37
3. Rookie 44
4. Rookie 62
5. Tanner Smith 1
6. Rookie 54


Remember that players traded in period 2 dont count yet. This means you use 1 NAT pick + 1 to upgrade White, you also take 5 rook picks, if you want R7 to go onto your senior list, you need to delist another senior list player, hope that helps.

That doesn't include Hickey and Ibbotson. But has Sam Colquon. So what gets priority, Nat pick 54 or rookie promotion 70?

No, it doesnt have those players because you traded them in period 2, not period 1, this is your list at the end of period one. You have the spots mate.

Quote from: KoopKicka on November 19, 2013, 10:07:08 PM

Quote from: Noz on November 19, 2013, 10:04:55 PM
Can someone do my list as well?  :)

Give me about 5 minutes Noz, unless CW already has an updated version

his list is on the front page. not sure if he has announced delistings yet? if he has and they are in the list i linked to above then his list is final after delistings if not it is final before delistings.

Koop this is whatlezs list here :

ELEPHANTS FINAL LIST Team Value (148)

SENIOR LIST

1. Jack Redden
2. Taylor Walker
3. Michael Barlow
4. Scott Selwood
5. Daniel Nicholson
6. Todd Goldstein
7. Jack Watts
8. Travis Boak
9. Dylan Shiel
10. Liam Shiels
11. Aaron Hall
12. Stewart Crameri
13. Brodie Smith
14. John Patton
15. Tom McDonald
16. Billy longer
17. Alex Fasolo
18. Jarryn Geary
19. Jared Petrenko
20. Sam Day
21. Lachlan Hansen
22. Joshua Bootsma
23. Ryan Harwood
24. Scott Gumbleton
25. Joshua Green
26. Ben Stratton
27. Bradley Mckenzie
28. Sam Frost
29. Maverick Weller
30. Thomas Sheridan
31. Seb Tape
32. Sam Dunnell
33. Rory Thompson
34. Niall McKeever
35. Jamie Bennell
36. Matt White
37. Lachie Whitfield
38. Oliver Wines
39. Sam Colquhoun
40. Joel wilkinson


ROOKIE LIST

1. Ayden Kennedy
2. Ben Speight
3. Peter Yagmoor
4. Jesse White
5. Tanner Smith
6. Ben Mabon

the only place there is a final accurate copy of everyones list is in the official trade thread.

that list is before any delistings.

the copy of everyones lists as they delist and after they delist all their delistings will be HERE on the front page of this thread ONLY.

Quote from: Colliwobblers on November 19, 2013, 10:13:31 PM
Koop this is whatlezs list here :

ELEPHANTS FINAL LIST Team Value (148)

SENIOR LIST

1. Jack Redden
2. Taylor Walker
3. Michael Barlow
4. Scott Selwood
5. Daniel Nicholson
6. Todd Goldstein
7. Jack Watts
8. Travis Boak
9. Dylan Shiel
10. Liam Shiels
11. Aaron Hall
12. Stewart Crameri
13. Brodie Smith
14. John Patton
15. Tom McDonald
16. Billy longer
17. Alex Fasolo
18. Jarryn Geary
19. Jared Petrenko
20. Sam Day
21. Lachlan Hansen
22. Joshua Bootsma
23. Ryan Harwood
24. Scott Gumbleton
25. Joshua Green
26. Ben Stratton
27. Bradley Mckenzie
28. Sam Frost
29. Maverick Weller
30. Thomas Sheridan
31. Seb Tape
32. Sam Dunnell
33. Rory Thompson
34. Niall McKeever
35. Jamie Bennell
36. Matt White
37. Lachie Whitfield
38. Oliver Wines
39. Sam Colquhoun
40. Joel wilkinson


ROOKIE LIST

1. Ayden Kennedy
2. Ben Speight
3. Peter Yagmoor
4. Jesse White
5. Tanner Smith
6. Ben Mabon

the only place there is a final accurate copy of everyones list is in the official trade thread.

that list is before any delistings.

the copy of everyones lists as they delist and after they delist all their delistings will be HERE on the front page of this thread ONLY.

yeah I included his delistings for him, that was the difference :)

Cheers CW, Im just trying to help people get their thingos in before the deadline.

Niall McKeever
Ben Speight
Peter Yagmoor
Joel Wilkinson
Ben Mabon
Ayden Kennedy
Jamie Bennell

Nat pick 70, promotion Jesse White

Okay that's my delistings. I'm not sure how my list will work as I have these players coming in period two...

Quote from: whatlez on November 19, 2013, 10:16:18 PM
Niall McKeever
Ben Speight
Peter Yagmoor
Joel Wilkinson
Ben Mabon
Ayden Kennedy
Jamie Bennell

Nat pick 70, promotion Jesse White

Okay that's my delistings. I'm not sure how my list will work as I have these players coming in period two...

you cannot delist players you have coming in period 2. now.

what happens if you exceed your list cap in trade period #2 is also clearly explained in the announcement above.

so this list of delistings above is just players that are on your list RIGHT NOW? as per the list I have for you on the front page of this thread?

Quote from: whatlez on November 19, 2013, 10:16:18 PM
Niall McKeever
Ben Speight
Peter Yagmoor
Joel Wilkinson
Ben Mabon
Ayden Kennedy
Jamie Bennell

Nat pick 70, promotion Jesse White

Okay that's my delistings. I'm not sure how my list will work as I have these players coming in period two...

Means that Rook 7 will go onto your senior list and you will take another Rook pick after 54 OR you will take 2 NAT picks not including White, your choice.

I didn't delist any. I just added Jamie Bennell as I can get him back I reckon.

Quote from: whatlez on November 19, 2013, 10:21:30 PM
I didn't delist any. I just added Jamie Bennell as I can get him back I reckon.

OK, so, same applies, if you are looking to pick Bennell back up in the Rook draft, either Rook 7 goes straight onto the senior list and another rook pick needs to be taken or another NAT pick after your first one, then you redraft Bennell with a rook pick so he goes onto your rookie list.

Does that make sense or am I talking gobblety gook?

you need to read very carefuly and understand how this will work and the ramifications of it:

QuoteLIST MANAGEMENT POST TRADE PERIOD #2

Due to this seasons change of being able to trade uneven numbers of players, in trade period 2 some teams will end up trading out more players than they trade in, and likewise some teams will end up trading more players in than they trade out.

At the completion of trade period 2 lists will be brought back to the cap limits of 40 and 6 in two simple steps.

STEP 1. The teams with more than the cap of 40 and 6 players on their lists willhave to delist players to take their lists back to the cap of 40 and 6. 

NOTE: These teams cannot delist players they have drafted in either draft in 2013. They must be other players.

STEP 2. The teams with less than the cap of 40 and 6 players on their lists will have to take picks from the remaining pool of players to bring their lists back up to the cap of 40 and 6.

NOTE: These picks will happen in the original pre trade draft order until all lists are full.

If you have any questions or do not understand any of the above please PM BB or myself asap.

The player lists for every team will be posted in the official DRAFT thread as soon as the delisting deadline is reached and everyone will be able to see their list after delistings and see exactly how many spots they have for drafting.

Due to this being the first season of having to delist unless BB disagrees strongly I will allow in the time between the delisting deadline and commencement of our national draft teams to delist further players if once they see their final list they feel they made a mistake and need more room on their lists for draft picks.

THIS DOES NOT CHANGE THE FACT YOU MUST POST YOUR DELISTINGS BY THE DEADLINE.

KEEP IN MIND THIS OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE THINGS WILL BE VERY VERY SHORT SO BETTER YOU THINK ABOUT IT NOW AND GET IT RIGHT BEFORE THE DEADLINE.

I find that stupid. If you do 2 for 1 or 3 for 1 trades then you set your list up so you don't have 49 players on your list.

Quote from: whatlez on November 19, 2013, 10:29:40 PM
I find that stupid. If you do 2 for 1 or 3 for 1 trades then you set your list up so you don't have 49 players on your list.

Shouldve actually read it when it was sent to you and complained then not less than 100 minutes to the deadline ::)

Quote from: KoopKicka on November 19, 2013, 10:31:19 PM

Quote from: whatlez on November 19, 2013, 10:29:40 PM
I find that stupid. If you do 2 for 1 or 3 for 1 trades then you set your list up so you don't have 49 players on your list.

Shouldve actually read it when it was sent to you and complained then not less than 100 minutes to the deadline ::)

Yeah. I tried to keep my list to 46 including period 2 trades.

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All I did was copy paste my 2013 list from the Official Team Lists 2013 thread, cross out any players I traded out, and swapped them for players I traded in, then crossed out guys I delisted/retired, and wrote in their spaces what picks I plan to use to fill their spaces.

Simples! :P

if you allow your list to go under the cap and have to draft in a lot of players, then have trades lined up for trade period 2 which take you over your cap, then you have to delist players YOU DID NOT DRAFT.

this is not good becasue these will be players who were already on your list that you have to delist after trade period 2 - not draftees.

i explained this to you and how to avoid having to do that.

the rules are clear i sent them to everyone, not sure everyone will take the effort to understand or figure it out, so people might get burnt....

there is no other way to do it when everyone unanimously voted for uneven trades. as in 2 for 1 etc.


* We cannot MAKE you delist players to allow for the players you are bringing in trade period 2 which take you over your list - BECAUSE - you can make further trades in period 2, that are 2 of yours for one opponent player, which takes you back to your list limit.

so since it is possible for you to carry out further uneven trades in period 2 we have no way of knowing how your list is going to end up after trade period 2.

we have thought this through from every angle whatlez.

So i will delist Fletcher Roberts and Brent Renouf then

Picks 52 + 67 will be used to upgrade both Rampe and Clisby

Whilst picks 41, 42, 43, 44 + Rook pick 9 will all go on my senior list

Then i will get a compo pick at end of rookie draft to make up numbers

I reckon this is right.

Quote from: Toga on November 19, 2013, 10:48:47 PM
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All I did was copy paste my 2013 list from the Official Team Lists 2013 thread, cross out any players I traded out, and swapped them for players I traded in, then crossed out guys I delisted/retired, and wrote in their spaces what picks I plan to use to fill their spaces.

Simples! :P

Exactly what I did too. Its not that hard lez

I worked out my exact list after both trade periods. I had enough space on my list to use up all my draft picks. This is one of the reasons i trade Xaiver Ellis for pick 41.

good work guys but it is safer to take your list from the official trade thread. that list we know 100% is correct.

the one in this thread will be the one that is 100% correct AFTER DELISTINGS ARE PROCESSED.

once everyone announces them....

1. Jobe Watson
2. David Mundy
3. Ivan Maric
4. Heath Shaw
5. Mark Baguley
6. Paul Chapman
7. Luke Ball
8. Mitchell Duncan
9. Leigh Adams
10. Nathan Grima
11. Ben Cunnington
12. Brad Sewell
13. Tom Mitchell
14. Dean Cox
15. Brandon Ellis
16. Shaun Atley
17. Arryn Siposs
18. Pick 67 (RP) Mitch Clisby
19. Sam Fisher
20.  Pick 52 (RP) Dane Rampe
21. Pick 41
22. Adam Goodes
23. Daniel Rich
24. Matthew Shaw
25. Jed Anderson
26. Easton Wood
27. Xavier Ellis
28. Aiden Riley
29. Josh Mellington
30. Liam McBean
31. Andrew Raines
32. Nick Maxwell
33. Pick 42
34. Pick 43
35. Rook 9
36. Brendon Ah Chee
37. Jack Viney
38. Pick 44
39. Johnathan Simpkin
40. Tom Young

ROOKIE LIST

1. Rook pick 52
2. Adam Oxley
3. Matthew Taberner
4. Cameron Delaney
5. Lincoln McCarthy
6. Rook 42

Delistings:
Andrew Krakouer
Fletcher Roberts
Brent Renouf
Josh Tynan
Todd Banfield
Jordan Russell
Daniel Kerr (retired)

Quote from: Colliwobblers on November 19, 2013, 10:54:03 PM
good work guys but it is safer to take your list from the official trade thread. that list we know 100% is correct.

the one in this thread will be the one that is 100% correct AFTER DELISTINGS ARE PROCESSED.

once everyone announces them....

Yeah all good CW, it essentially is what I've used but I have just taken last year's team list and updated it as I trade, now have adjusted it for delistings, so I know exactly which picks I will be using and where they will be going list-wise! I'm 100% sure my list is right 8)

Also currently at the conclusion of the second trade period

Out: Xaiver Ellis, Daniel Rich, Heath Shaw, Shaun Atley

In: Josh P. Kennedy, Matthew Stokes, Josh Thomas

Since i brought in Rich during the 1st trade period don't i get a list movement back so i should have 2 ins and 2 outs instead of 1 in and 2 outs?

Noz, do you have a rook pick after 42? If so that is used, if not you get a  compo pick.

Quote from: KoopKicka on November 19, 2013, 11:00:43 PM
Noz, do you have a rook pick after 42? If so that is used, if not you get a  compo pick.

Oh wait i don't even have pick 9 i have pick 10  ::)

Uhm yeah i have 52 and 90.

Quote from: Noz on November 19, 2013, 11:03:21 PM

Quote from: KoopKicka on November 19, 2013, 11:00:43 PM
Noz, do you have a rook pick after 42? If so that is used, if not you get a  compo pick.

Oh wait i don't even have pick 9 i have pick 10  ::)

Uhm yeah i have 52 and 90.

So you would use 52 to draft your last rookie, easy.

Quote from: Noz on November 19, 2013, 10:59:54 PM
Also currently at the conclusion of the second trade period

Out: Xaiver Ellis, Daniel Rich, Heath Shaw, Shaun Atley

In: Josh P. Kennedy, Matthew Stokes, Josh Thomas

Since i brought in Rich during the 1st trade period don't i get a list movement back so i should have 2 ins and 2 outs instead of 1 in and 2 outs?

not sure on this check with BB but I remember you raising this and think i remember him agreeing with you.

Finally the stress is over I'm going to bed.

VIETNAM VIPERS DELISTINGS

Senior:

Anthony Miles
Adam Kennedy
Cale Morton
Tim Mohr
Rhys Palmer

Rookie:

Lewis Pierce
Andrew McInnes
Martin Gleeson
Tim McGennesis

Delistings

Richard Newell
Cam Eardley
Jason Ashby
Luke Lowden
Fraser McInnes
Eric Wallace
Steven Morris
Ariel Steinberg
Leroy Jetta
Jesse Stringer
Luke Tapscott

35 sucks Nost. I would of given you pick 54 if you needed it.

Tibet delist their last player

Shaun Edwards just hasn't mad the cut and is leaving the club

Tibet now will use 5 picks at the AXV Draft

Quote from: tbagrocks on November 19, 2013, 11:27:09 PM
Tibet delist their last player

Shaun Edwards just hasn't mad the cut and is leaving the club

Tibet now will use 5 picks at the AXV Draft

can you post the complete list for me please tbag all in one place.

Quote from: whatlez on November 19, 2013, 11:24:00 PM
35 sucks Nost. I would of given you pick 54 if you needed it.

it does thats for sure, but there were some very late circumstances that effected things

i was torn between passing pick 36 or delisting spud palmer. in the end i delisted spud palmer. surely the clown has had long enough now to learn to kick the ball to the guys wearing the same jumpers as he wears, but seems no he still cant do it yet.

shocked they kept him on the list and delisted miles. thats one i didnt want to delist.

Delistings from Tibet, Should leave 5 ND and 3 RD picks

seniors
Sam Shaw
Luke Russell
Tom Couch
Josh Growden
Tom Downie
Shaun Edwards

rookies
Brett O'Hanlon
Sam Siggins
Alex Forster

Quote from: whatlez on November 19, 2013, 09:40:31 PM
Can I get an update on my list post delistings? Some teams have been, but mine seems like it's the norm?

sorry mate missed this request with everything that was going on. your list is up dated on the front page post delistings.

make sure you are happy with it. let me know if not. I will allow a little undertermined period for coaches to work through everything and make a change to their delistings up until probably thursday night early but that will be it.

@ koops thanks for helping people out, wasnt rel sure what you were up to either but can see now you were being helpful so thanks.

@ tbag thanks mate

Quote from: KoopKicka on November 19, 2013, 09:42:10 PM
Ashton Hams 
FINAL DELISTINGS

Andrew Embley
Brad Dick
Setana O'Halpin
Martin Mattner
Aaron Joesph
Justin Hoskin
Alan Didak

ROOKIE PROMOTION

#74 Andrew Boston

Thanks CW :)

all the same except since your last list you have decided not to delist tom derickx

still need delistings from the following clubs immediately

Dongs

Strikers

Head Hunters

I would also like the Ales to confirm their delisitngs given the debate last night just want to make sure the list I have ( on the front page ) is correct by you.

And Jacob Townsend

I reckon the teams that don't update there list loose their first round draft picks and it gets given to me.  :)

Quote from: Jayman on October 25, 2013, 07:20:08 PM
May as well post this. Strikers delist the following.

James Sellar
Aaron Davey
Peter Faulks
Sean Gregory
Jon Ceglar
Kepler Bradley

This was on the first page Colli.
   Pretty sure nothing has changed and they are the 6 players to be delisted from Sri Lanka.

I'm not sure on this, but Gumbleton/Lewis trade was in period one? So would that mean Lewis would be on my list now or because the trade goes into period 2, they stay on their existing until period 2 opens. Sorry if this was mentioned in the thread.

Quote from: Colliwobblers on November 20, 2013, 12:28:18 AM

Quote from: KoopKicka on November 19, 2013, 09:42:10 PM
Ashton Hams 
FINAL DELISTINGS

Andrew Embley
Brad Dick
Setana O'Halpin
Martin Mattner
Aaron Joesph
Justin Hoskin
Alan Didak

ROOKIE PROMOTION

#74 Andrew Boston

Thanks CW :)

all the same except since your last list you have decided not to delist tom derickx

Correct, Derickx has been traded in period 2 Thanks for everything CW.

Quote from: whatlez on November 20, 2013, 11:19:25 AM
I'm not sure on this, but Gumbleton/Lewis trade was in period one? So would that mean Lewis would be on my list now or because the trade goes into period 2, they stay on their existing until period 2 opens. Sorry if this was mentioned in the thread.

Since the players themselves were traded in period 1, they are on your list now.

I think Whatlez's observation is correct.

Looking at my updated list and there's currently six original guys on it which are leaving the club next trade period - Ablett, Enright, Adcock, Lewis, Stokes and McGlynn.

As I can only trade out 5 guys in trade period 2 this doesn't make sense.

And looking at the trade thread Jordan Lewis did indeed move in trade period one to the Elephants so he needs to go off my list as well.

Cheers.

Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 20, 2013, 12:05:43 PM
I think Whatlez's observation is correct.

Looking at my updated list and there's currently six original guys on it which are leaving the club next trade period - Ablett, Enright, Adcock, Lewis, Stokes and McGlynn.

As I can only trade out 5 guys in trade period 2 this doesn't make sense.

And looking at the trade thread Jordan Lewis did indeed move in trade period one to the Elephants so he needs to go off my list as well.

Cheers.

Theres your problem, Lewis went out in period one, so that's 5 out for period 2, which is correct.

This was my big issue yesterday lol.

As Lewis should be in my team this period, why did my list not contain him.

appologies for he lateness

PNG HeadHunters

Retirements & Delistings
Jude Bolton (Retired)
Tom Gillies (Delisted)
Tim Golds (Delisted)
Mark Nicoski (Retired)
Karmichael Hunt (Delisted)
Ben Richmond (Delisted Rookie)
Joseph Redfern (Delisted Rookie)
Gideon Simon (Delisted Rookie)

Rookie Promotions
Brandon Jack

Quote from: upthemaidens on November 20, 2013, 11:08:02 AM

Quote from: Jayman on October 25, 2013, 07:20:08 PM
May as well post this. Strikers delist the following.

James Sellar
Aaron Davey
Peter Faulks
Sean Gregory
Jon Ceglar
Kepler Bradley

This was on the first page Colli.
   Pretty sure nothing has changed and they are the 6 players to be delisted from Sri Lanka.

Cheers mate. I knew I'd already done it!

thanks guys, it was so long ago i wanted to know for sure.

Quote from: whatlez on November 20, 2013, 01:25:06 PM
This was my big issue yesterday lol.

As Lewis should be in my team this period, why did my list not contain him.

have got BB looking into this trade now, please PM him the trade if you can so he can go over it and make sure we have everything correct in terms of trade movements and team lists.

once sorted we will update lists advise you of changes and if need be you can change your delistings and advise me of the changes.

everyone feel free to have a look at this list: http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,86920.msg1203308.html#msg1203308

the first list is our existing player pool from last season, in green are players no longer on an AFL list, the others are on AFL lists.

If you see any errors please let me know.

the second list is the players we have delisted this season, I have only listed the ones I believe to still be on an AFL list.

if you have delisted any that are not on this list of mine but you believe are still on an AFL list please let me know. Likewise if you see any I have listed there that are not on an AFL list please also let me know.

getting these lists right is very important for our preseason/rookie draft.

Some interesting delistings by other AXV clubs there

I'm definitely having a crack at some of those players I think.

The only guys I can think of who aren't listed here Colli are some of the recent category B/international rookies are on that list.

I know Port signed someone recently - Daniel Flynn. I don't know if any other clubs have signed anyone yet though.

http://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/news/2013-11-06/daniel-flynn-begins-goliath-journey

all those stupid, scholorship and overseas people that get signed up in weird ways, i have no idea how to track all those and get a list to add to our draft pool

but if I or anyone else finds out i think i will add them to the pool of ROOKIE LIST ONLY players, pool them in with the players taken in the AFL rookie draft who can only go on our rookie lists.

should probably work that out but the afl is hopeless at having lists or accurate up to date information on how any of that works much less lists of players.

might be better off tring to work it out off the club sites, they at  least are mostly only 3 years out of date....  ::)

Actually here's some more:

Jason Holmes - St Kilda
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-02/saints-sign-us-giant

Ciaran Byrne - Carlton
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-08-15/bluse-sign-irishman-as-international-rookie

Kurt Heatherley and Shem Tatupu - Hawthorn
http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/news/2013-10-30/hawks-welcome-heatherley-tatupu-as-international-rookies

Patrick Mitchell - Sydney
http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/news/2013-11-08/american-swans-journey-begins

Probably unlikely that any of these players get drafted by an AXV club this season but still handy to know. Don't know if I've got everyone.

Searching google for articles on afl.com.au with the term international rookie in is a good way to do it.

Found one more

Ciaran Sheehan - Carlton
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-11-07/third-irishman-for-blues

Also this article provides an update on in rookies we may have missed in previous years.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-06-15/international-projects

so these arent actually signed to a club at this stage? we cant sign them to an AXVS club until they are actually on an official AFL senior or rookie list.

so if they are not on their lists Im not concerned about them.

however if they get added to a list somehow i need to know so i can put them in a pool for us to draft them if we want to.

problem is i dont know how or when they get put on AFL lists, or how it works really. not a big issue but would be nice to be on top of everything like this one day.

ok thanks memph, i might try and make BB look into it :) 

Quote from: Colliwobblers on November 20, 2013, 06:41:04 PM
so these arent actually signed to a club at this stage? we cant sign them to an AXVS club until they are actually on an official AFL senior or rookie list.

so if they are not on their lists Im not concerned about them.

however if they get added to a list somehow i need to know so i can put them in a pool for us to draft them if we want to.

problem is i dont know how or when they get put on AFL lists, or how it works really. not a big issue but would be nice to be on top of everything like this one day.

ok thanks memph, i might try and make BB look into it :)

All of these guys I have posted ARE on an AFL list as international rookies. They have signed on. I haven't included anyone who is just 'training' with a club hoping to get a position like the guy at the Dockers

Basically they get offered a two-year scholarship and if they accept they go on the list as an international rookie. Then in two years time they have to be put on the main rookie list I believe

The guys above were all signed in this season's off-season/trade period. The second article lists an update on guys signed last year.

They are as follows: Maia Westrupp (Demons), Gideon Simon (Richmond) and Joe Baker-Thomas (St Kilda). I am unsure if the first guy mentioned Aksel Bang (GWS) has officially signed on or not.

Essendon also signed an alternative talent guy, some runner or something.

lets just focus on gettng these right, I will worry about these other guys WHEN they make it onto on e of the two official lists being senior and rookie.

Quote from: Colliwobblers on November 20, 2013, 06:21:20 PM
everyone feel free to have a look at this list: http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,86920.msg1203308.html#msg1203308

the first list is our existing player pool from last season, in green are players no longer on an AFL list, the others are on AFL lists.

If you see any errors please let me know.

the second list is the players we have delisted this season, I have only listed the ones I believe to still be on an AFL list.

if you have delisted any that are not on this list of mine but you believe are still on an AFL list please let me know. Likewise if you see any I have listed there that are not on an AFL list please also let me know.

getting these lists right is very important for our preseason/rookie draft.

Hong Kong Dongs delist:

Max Bailey
Callum Bartlett (rookie)
Liam Patrick
Nathan Stark


Is it possible to demote players to the rookie list? (would like to demote Cornelius, want to take a chance on him getting picked up)

Quote from: Nails on November 20, 2013, 11:33:09 PM
Hong Kong Dongs delist:

Max Bailey
Callum Bartlett (rookie)
Liam Patrick
Nathan Stark


Is it possible to demote players to the rookie list? (would like to demote Cornelius, want to take a chance on him getting picked up)

no you cant demote senior listed players , you have only two options.

1. delist him and if he gets picked up he will be available in the AXVS rookie/preseason draft and you draft him back in to either of your lists.

2. you hold him on your senior list, if he does not get picked up you have to delist him after the drafts and take a compo pick at the end of the AXVS rookie/preseason draft

Quote from: Nails on November 20, 2013, 11:33:09 PM
Hong Kong Dongs delist:

Max Bailey
Callum Bartlett (rookie)
Liam Patrick
Nathan Stark


Is it possible to demote players to the rookie list? (would like to demote Cornelius, want to take a chance on him getting picked up)

you are not delisting chad cornes ?

Quote from: Colliwobblers on November 21, 2013, 01:01:47 AM

Quote from: Nails on November 20, 2013, 11:33:09 PM
Hong Kong Dongs delist:

Max Bailey
Callum Bartlett (rookie)
Liam Patrick
Nathan Stark


Is it possible to demote players to the rookie list? (would like to demote Cornelius, want to take a chance on him getting picked up)

you are not delisting chad cornes ?

+ Chad Cornes

Swear I didn't see him on the team list I was reading off lol

Though really he shouldn't even be on our list anymore, he was unselectable in DT/SC after a few rounds ;) therefore he was non-existent in fantasy world imo lol

Hong Kong should be stripped his draft picks :P

Quote from: KoopKicka on November 20, 2013, 06:55:47 PM
Essendon also signed an alternative talent guy, some runner or something.

Johnny Rayner, was in the TAC cup team of the year starting in the midfield but didn't get drafted so took up 800m running, but now he's keen to play footy again,  8)