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Welcome to the 2013/14 Trade Thread.
CHAT CLIENT TO USE FOR FF MEMBERS DURING TRADE WINDOWS TO DISCUSS TRADES: http://www.ffelitechat.webs.com/
* If you need any info or help getting onto the chat ask almost any coach on FF will be able to walk you through it very simple.TRADINGThere will be two trade periods in each season.Post Season.AN AGREED TIME AFTER COMPLETION OF THE SEASON BEFORE THE NATIONAL DRAFT OF THE FOLLOWING SEASON
8 Week window to trade players, draft picks. Subject to extension on application by majority of teams.
MAXIMUM NUMBER OF LIST CHANGES = 5
A team may trade any number of players and or picks within the list movements limit in any one trade or multiple trades.
A team may trade unequal numbers of players and or draft picks between itself and trading partner.
A list movment is counted as a change to your list as it was pre trading. player for pick counts, pick for player counts, pick for pick does not.
Players traded in can be traded out without this counting as a new list movement, likewise traded out players can be traded back in without this counting as a list movement.
Pre Season.
AN AGREED TIME AFTER THE PRESEASON/ROOKIE DRAFT PRIOR TO THE START OF THE SEASON
8 Week window to trade players only.
MAXIMUM NUMBER OF LIST CHANGES = 5
SAME RULES AS ABOVE WINDOW/PERIOD
*IMPORTANT NOTES ON LIST MANAGEMENTS DURING TRADES** You may trade a rookie listed player for another teams senior listed player, or visa versa. BUT
- The player you trade in MUST go onto the same list that the player you traded out was on (senior or rookie) TRADE BLOCKING / APPROVAL: ALL TRADES ARE TO BE SUBMITTED TO LEAGUE ADMINISTRATOR FOR APPROVAL.All trades agreed upon are to be PM'ed to League administrator (Colliwobblers) by BOTH parties, for approval.
Trades approved will be posted below in Trades Approved and reflected in This Thread under final list lodgement.
All draft picks traded will be reflected in the updated draft picks post below as well as on the Trades Thread.
At the completion of EACH trade period, teams must delist players to bring their list to within the list limits being, Senior List = 40 players + Rookie List = 6 players.
All delisted players following the POST SEASON trade period will go into the AXVS Rookie/preseason draft pool if still AFL listed.
NOTE ON DRAFTING: The AXVS Rookie/Preseason draft will be players in the AXVS undrafted pool + AFL preseason draftees. AND the AFL Rookie draftees.
* The AXVS undrafted pool and AFL preseason draftees can all go on EITHER your senior or rookie list.
* The AFL Rookie draftees can ONLY go onto your rookie list.
Teams will need to use a national draft pick to promote a rookie from their rookie list ( to be confirmed).
Undrafted National draft players will go into the preseason/rookie draft pool.
POST DRAFTS - TEAM LISTS - UPDATED THROUGHOUT DRAFTING
TEAM RANKING BASED ON CHAMPION DATA PLAYER RANKINGSELITE (top 10% of position) = 9
ABOVE AVERAGE (top 35% of position) = 6
AVERAGE (middle 30% of position) = 4
BELOW AVERAGE (bottom 35% of position) = 2
POOR (bottom 10% of position) = 1
TOP 5 DRAFT PICK (PLAYED < 5 GAMES OR DRAFTED IN 2013) = 3
FIRST ROUND DRAFT PICK (PLAYED < 5 GAMES OR DRAFTED IN 2013) = 2
OTHER DRAFT PICK (PLAYED < 5 GAMES OR DRAFTED IN 2013) = 1
ROOKIE LISTED PLAYER = 1
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BEARS
Current Team Value (184) 2013 Team Value (198) Down 14
SENIOR LIST1. Joel Selwood 9
2. Nat Fyfe 6
3. Ben McEvoy 6
4. Colin Sylvia 4
5. Sam Mitchell 9
6. Matthew Boyd 9
7. Mark LeCras 6
8. Tom Clurey 1
9. Andrew Walker 9
10. Nick Riewoldt 9
11. Beau Waters 6
12. Alipate Carlile 4
13. Ryan Crowley 2
14. Jed Adcock 6
15. James Gwilt 4
16. Michael Rischitelli 4
17. Mason Shaw 1
18. Brent Moloney 4
19. Dean Kent 1
20. Dom Cassisi 2
21. Paul Duffield 6
22. Brent Harvey 6
23. Brent Staker 6
24. Jonathan Griffin 6
25. Tim Mohr 2
26. Matthew Pavlich 9
27. Daniel Cross 6
28. Jake King 4
29. Mark Jamar 2
30. Shane Edwards 4
31. Trent Dennis-Lane 2
32. Jared Rivers 2
33. Kane Mitchell 1
34. Matt Thomas 1
35. Cameron Hitchcock 1
36. Nicholas Kommer 2
37. Jed Bews 1
38. Andrew Carrazzo 4
39. Luke Russell 2
40. Jason Porplyzia 4
41. Aaron Sandilands 4
ROOKIE LIST1. Simon Tunbridge 1
2. Ben Griffiths 1
3. Mason Wood 1
4. Kepler Bradley 2
5. Ben Ross 1
6. Jon Ceglar 1
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STRIKERS
Current Team Value (173) 2013 Team Value (160) Up 13
SENIOR LIST1. Kieran Jack 9
2. Mitchell Golby 4
3. Sam Jacobs 4
4. Matt Suckling 6
5. Reece Conca 4
6. Rory Sloane 9
7. Scott D. Thompson 9
8. Brett Goodes 6
9. Andrew Mackie 6
10. Kade Simpson 9
11. Josh J Kennedy 6
12. Tom Scully 4
13. Josh Jenkins 4
14. Justin Westhoff 6
15. Michael Walters 9
16. Heath Grundy 6
17. Gary Rohan 1
18. Callan Ward 6
19. Matt DeBoer 4
20. Alex Johnson 4
21. Will Hoskin-Elliot 1
22. Curtly Hampton 2
23. Brad Sheppard 1
24. Ryan Schoenmakers 4
25. Daniel Jackson 4
26. Jackson Paine 1
27. Levi Casboult 2
28. Rhyce Shaw 4
29. James Podsiadly 4
30. Nathan Hrovat 2
31. Josh Simpson 2
32. Dale Thomas 6
33. Jason Tutt 1
34. Ben McGlynn 4
35. Callum Sinclair 1
36. Jed Lamb 2
37. Sam Darley 2
38. Marcus Bontempelli 3
39. Billy Hartung 1
40. Scott Lycett 1
ROOKIE LIST1. James Stewart 1
2. Andrejs Everitt 2
3. Marco Paparone 2
4. Rhys Palmer 2
5. Aliir Aliir 1
6. Tom Barrass 1
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DONGS
Current Team Value (173) 2013 Team Value (194) Down 21
SENIOR LIST1. Lance Franklin 9
2. Jack Grimes 4
3. Jarryd Roughead 9
4. Liam Anthony 2
5. Brent Stanton 6
6. Leigh Montagna 9
7. Hamish Mcintosh 1
8. David Hale 4
9. Dustin Fletcher 4
10. Jonathan Brown 4
11. Jay Schulz 6
12. Kane Cornes 6
13. George Hewett 1
14. Heath Scotland 1
15. Jimmy Bartel 9
16. Clinton Young 4
17. Will Schofield 4
18. Lenny Hayes 6
19. Jordan Lisle 4
20. Jordie McKenzie 2
21. Chris Newman 4
22. Shannon Byrnes 2
23. Jarrad Grant 6
24. Luke McPharlin 6
25. Daniel Giansiracusa 6
26. Blayne Wilson 1
27. Paul Puopolo 6
28. Eric Mackenzie 6
29. Robert Murphy 9
30. Luke McGuane 4
31. Jason Johannisen 4
32. Lachlan Keeffe 4
33. Ben Hudson 1
34. Spencer White 2
35. Matthew Watson 1
36. James Kelly 6
37. Darcy Gardiner 1
38. Jack Leslie 1
39. Darcy Byrne-Jones 1
40. Karl Amon 1
ROOKIE LIST1. Kaiden Brand 1
2. Sam Michael 1
3. Mitchell Wilkins 1
4. Joshua Prudden 1
5. Jack Redpath 1
6. Will Maginness 1
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TIGERS
Current Team Value (172) 2013 Team Value (171) Down 1
SENIOR LIST1. Brett Deledio 9
2. Jack Ziebell 6
3. Toby Greene 4
4. Shaun Higgins 6
5. Shaun Grigg 4
6. Dustin Martin 6
7. Paul Seedsman 4
8. Jack Riewoldt 6
9. Clancee Pearce 6
10. Mitch Robinson 4
11. Sean Dempster 6
12. Ryan Griffen 9
13. Courtenay Dempsey 6
14. David Armitage 6
15. Chris Yarran 4
16. Brodie Martin 1
17. Richard Douglas 6
18. Stefan Martin 2
19. Robbie Gray 4
20. Rohan Bail 2
21. Ricky Henderson 6
22. Shaun McKernan 4
23. Josh Gibson 6
24. Tom Bellchambers 4
25. Troy Menzel 2
26. Kyle Hardingham 2
27. Ted Richards 6
28. Kyle Martin 1
29. Jarryd Cachia 1
30. Lachie Hunter 1
31. Daniel Talia 6
32. James Polkinghorne 2
33. Matt McDonough 1
34. Shannon Hurn 6
35. Jarrod Harbrow 6
36. Tom Lee 2
37. Christian Salem 2
38. Majak Daw 1
39. Thomas Nicholls 1
40. Farren Ray 4
ROOKIE LIST1. Jake Lloyd 1
2. Leigh Osborne 1
3. Bradley Helbig 1
4. Tom Downie 1
5. Zac O'Brien 1
6. Todd Banfield 1
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LAMBS
Current Team Value (170) 2013 Team Value (186) Down 16
SENIOR LIST1. Marc Murphy 6
2. Scott Thompson ADE 6
3. Hamish Hartlett 6
4. Steve Johnson 9
5. Jonathon Giles 4
6. Bachar Houli 6
7. Drew Petrie 9
8. Kurt Tippett 6
9. Jarred McVeigh 9
10. Pearce Hanley 9
11. Mike Pyke 4
12. Nathan Van Berlo 2
13. Taylor Hunt 2
14. Alex Rance 9
15. Matt Priddis 6
16. Ryan O'Keefe 6
17. Hayden Ballantyne 6
18. Nick Smith 4
19. Clay Cameron 1
20. Nathan Bock 1
21. Charlie Dixon 4
22. Adam Cooney 6
23. Dennis Armfield 2
24. George Horlin-Smith 2
25. Hayden Crozier 4
26. Andrew Moore 2
27. Tom J Lynch GC 4
28. Aaron Young 1
29. Chris Knights 4
30. Lynden Dunn 6
31. Stephan Gilham 2
32. Craig Moller 1
33. Tom Logan 4
34. Travis Colyer 2
35. James Sicily 1
36. Luke Dunstan 2
37. Rory Lobb 1
38. Toby Nankervis 1
39. Nathan Gordon 1
40.
ROOKIE LIST1. Cadeyn Williams 1
2. Max Duffy 1
3. Kyle Hartigan 1
4. Murray Newman 1
5. Cameron O'Shea 4
6. Charlie Cameron 1
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FOLDERS
Current Team Value (167) 2013 Team Value (199) Down 32
SENIOR LIST1. Dane Swan 9
2. Dayne Zorko 4
3. Brendan Goddard 6
4. Travis Cloke 6
5. Michael Johnson 9
6. Brock McLean 6
7. Nick Dal Santo 6
8. Chris Mayne 9
9. Nick Malceski 6
10. Will Minson 9
11. Mitch Clark 4
12. Ryan Bastinac 6
13. Jarrad waite 6
14. Craig Bird 4
15. Sam Gilbert 6
16. Bernie Vince 4
17. Matthew Lobbe 4
18. Jack Hannath 1
19. Joshua Walker 1
20. Daniel Merrett 4
21. Jamie MacMillan 2
22. Adam Schneider 4
23. Josh Hill 4
24. Quinten Lynch 4
25. Tom Williams 1
26. Ashley McGrath 2
27. Nathan Foley 4
28. Brian Lake 6
29. Rohan Bewick 4
30. Lewis Roberts-Thompson 2
31. Aiden Corr 1
32. Brent Reily 6
33. Jeremy Laidler 1
34. Josh Saunders 1
35. Tommy Walsh 1
36. Patrick Cripps 2
37. Sean Lemmens 1
38. Alex Pearce 1
39. Sam Dwyer 2
40.
ROOKIE LIST1. Harrison Marsh 1
2. Matt Maguire 2
3. Justin Clarke 2
4. James Harmes 1
5. Luke Tapscott 1
6. Archie Smith 1
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ELEPHANTS
Current Team Value (156) 2013 Team Value (148) Up 8
SENIOR LIST1. Jack Redden 6
2. Taylor Walker 6
3. Michael Barlow 9
4. Scott Selwood 6
5. Daniel Nicholson 4
6. Todd Goldstein 9
7. Jack Watts 6
8. Travis Boak 6
9. Dylan Shiel 4
10. Liam Shiels 2
11. Aaron Hall 4
12. Stewart Crameri 6
13. Brodie Smith 4
14. John Patton 1
15. Tom McDonald 4
16. Billy longer 2
17. Alex Fasolo 4
18. Jarryn Geary 6
19. Jared Petrenko 4
20. Sam Day 2
21. Lachlan Hansen 4
22. Joshua Bootsma 1
23. Ryan Harwood 4
24. Jordan Lewis 6
25. Joshua Green 2
26. Ben Stratton 6
27. Bradley Mckenzie 1
28. Sam Frost 1
29. Maverick Weller 1
30. Thomas Sheridan 1
31. Seb Tape 1
32. Sam Dunnell 1
33. Rory Thompson 4
34. Kyle Cheney 1
35. Oliver Wines 4
36. Matt White 2
37. Lachie Whitfield 4
38. Jesse White 4
39. Garrick Ibbotson 6
40. Tom Hickey 1
ROOKIE LIST1. Tanner Smith 1
2. Anthony Miles 1
3. Sam Schulz 1
4. Fraser Thurlow 1
5. Matthew Spangher 1
6. Taylor Hine 1
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ALES
Current Team Value (152) 2013 Team Value (172) Down 20
SENIOR LIST1. Luke Shuey 6
2. Matthew Buntine 3
3. Grant Birchall 9
4. Angus Monfries 9
5. Nathan Jones 6
6. Shane Mumford 6
7. Sam Reid syd 2
8. David Zaharakis 4
9. Trent Mckenzie 6
10. Matthew Broadbent 6
11. Shaun Hampson 2
12. Daniel Wells 6
13. Sam Butler 6
14. Jack Gunston 9
15. Liam Jones 1
16. Thomas Bugg 2
17. Jack Steven 6
18. Sam Mayes 2
19. Matthew Jaensch 2
20. Jordan Roughead 4
21. Adam Tomlinson 4
22. Paul Stewart 2
23. Chris Masten 6
24. Heath Hocking 2
25. Liam Sumner 1
26. Luke Hodge 9
27. James Strauss 1
28. Cale Hooker 6
29. Ayce Cordy 1
30. Jack Crisp 1
31. Alex Sexton 1
32. Alex Woodward 1
33. Ashley Smith 2
34. Jacob Brennan 1
35. Luke McDonald 2
36. Lewis Taylor 1
37. Jonathon Freeman 1
38. Jesse Hogan 3
39. Sam Grimley 1
40. Mitch Hallahan 1
ROOKIE LIST1. Matthew Dick 1
2. Xavier Richards 1
3. Jack Martin 3
4. Dallas Willsmore 1
5. Luke Reynolds 1
6. Shem Tatupu 1
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GAZELLES
Current Team Value (146) 2013 Team Value (164) Down 18
SENIOR LIST1. Jobe Watson 9
2. David Mundy 6
3. Ivan Maric 6
4. Michael Hurley 4
5. Mark Baguley 4
6. Paul Chapman 6
7. Luke Ball 6
8. Mitchell Duncan 4
9. Leigh Adams 4
10. Nathan Grima 4
11. Ben Cunnington 6
12. Brad Sewell 4
13. Tom Mitchell 4
14. Dean Cox 9
15. Brandon Ellis 4
16. Josh Thomas 4
17. Arryn Siposs 2
18. Johnathan Simpkin 2
19. Sam Fisher 4
20. Brendon Ah Chee 1
21. Jack Viney 4
22. Adam Goodes 9
23. Josh P Kennedy 9
24. Matthew Shaw 1
25. Jed Anderson 1
26. Easton Wood 1
27. Matthew Stokes 6
28. Aiden Riley 1
29. Ben Newton 1
30. Liam McBean 1
31. Andrew Raines 1
32. Nick Maxwell 4
33. Beau Maister 1
34. Lewis Stevenson 1
35. Mitchell Clisby 1
36. Ben Brown 1
37. Tom Langdon 1
38. Daniel McStay 1
39. Jarrad Jansen 1
40.
ROOKIE LIST1. Dane Rampe 2
2. Adam Oxley 1
3. Matthew Taberner 1
4. Cameron Delaney 1
5. Lincoln McCarthy 1
6. James Battersby 1
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CROCODILES
Current Team Value (142) 2013 Team Value (142) Up 0
SENIOR LIST1. Scott Pendlebury 9
2. Bryce Gibbs 6
3. Steele Sidebottom 6
4. Brodie Grundy 2
5. Luke Dahlhaus 6
6. Sharrod Wellingham 4
7. Gary Ablett 9
8. Heath Shaw 9
9. Luke Parker 4
10. Harry Taylor 9
11. Aaron Black 4
12. Tom Liberatore 6
13. Jack Darling 6
14. Claye Beams 2
15. Corey Enright 9
16. Josh Caddy 2
17. Shane Savage 2
18. James Frawley 6
19. Jarrod Witts 1
20. Jackson Trengrove 4
21. Nick Graham 1
22. Tayte Pears 2
23. Jamie Cripps 2
24. Elliot Kavanagh 2
25. Dylan Grimes 2
26. Dylan Addison 2
27. Koby Stevens 2
28. Dylan Roberton 4
29. Sam Menegola 1
30. Mitchell Brown 2
31. Nick OBrien 1
32. Tom Curran 1
33. Dean Towers 2
34. Will Hams 1
35. Dawson Simpson 1
36. Sam Lloyd 1
37. Dylan Main 1
38. Jimmy Webster 1
39. Darren Minchington 1
40.
ROOKIE LIST1. Jack Frost 1
2. Kamdyn McIntosh 1
3. Jordan Lockyer 1
4. Dylan Buckley 1
5. Jackson Sheringham 1
6. Angus Graham 1
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VIPERS
Current Team Value (132) 2013 Team Value (157) Down 23
SENIOR LIST1. Dayne Beams 9
2. Matthew Wright 4
3. Jack Newnes 2
4. Matthew Leuenberger 6
5. Chris Judd 6
6. Allen Christensen 4
7. Troy Chaplin 6
8. Christian Howard 2
9. Sam Blease 1
10. Danny Stanley 4
11. Ricky Pettard 4
12. David Myers 4
13. Jeremy Howe 6
14. Ben Reid 9
15. Dom Tyson 1
16. Jake Melksham 4
17. Robert Warnock 4
18. Robin Nahas 2
19. Billie Smedts 2
20. Mitch Wallis 4
21. Mark Hutchings 1
22. Nick Haynes 2
23. Brandon Matera 4
24. Stephen Hill 4
25. Kane Lucas 2
26. Nick Suban 2
27. Patrick Karnezis 1
28. Taylor Garner 2
29. Jonathan O'Rourke 3
30. Mark Whiley 1
31. Matt Jones 2
32. Tony Armstrong 2
33. Campbell Heath 2
34. Lewis Johnston 1
35. Nicholas Robertson 1
36. Joshua Kelly 3
37. Cameron McCarthy 2
38. Zak Jones 2
39. Michael Apeness 2
40.
ROOKIE LIST1. Thomas Jonas 4
2. Josh Bruce 2
3. Mark Blicavs 1
4. Lloyd Perris 1
5. Louis Herbert 1
6. Isaac Conway 1
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CRABS
Current Team Value (132) 2013 Team Value (126) Up 6
SENIOR LIST1. Daniel Rich 4
2. Nic Naitanui 6
3. Tom Hawkins 4
4. Phil Davis 4
5. Jaeger O'Meara 6
6. Adam Treloar 4
7. Dion Prestia 6
8. Taylor Adams 4
9. Jake Stringer 1
10. Jesse Lonergan 2
11. Nathan Vardy 4
12. Steven Motlop 6
13. Sam Docherty 2
14. Brad Crouch 4
15. Leroy Jetta 4
16. Daniel Menzel 1
17. Chris Dawes 2
18. Sebastian Ross 2
19. Tim Membrey 1
20. David Swallow 6
21. Shaun Atley 4
22. Brent Mcaffer 2
23. Trent Cotchin 9
24. Kristian Jaksch 2
25. Jake Carlisle 6
26. Jackson Allen 1
27. Mitch Grigg 1
28. Joe Daniher 2
29. Josh Cowan 1
30. Greg Broughton 4
31. Matthew Arnot 1
32. Jackson Merrett 2
33. Kade Kolodjashnij 3
34. James Aish 2
35. Matt Crouch 1
36. Trent Dumont 1
37. Matthew Fuller 1
38. Jarman Impey 1
39. Cameron Giles 1
40. Kieran Harper 2
41. Xavier Ellis 1
ROOKIE LIST1. Lachlan Dalgleish 1
2. Timothy Broomhead 2
3. Daniel Markworth 1
4. Sam Shaw 4
5. Adam Kennedy 2
6. Jeremy McGovern 1
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HEAD HUNTERS
Current Team Value (131) 2013 Team Value (148) Down 17
SENIOR LIST1. Andrew Swallow 6
2. Sam Gibson 4
3. Tom Rockliff 9
4. Dyson Heppell 6
5. Brendan Whitecross 4
6. Danyle Pearce 4
7. Lee Spurr 4
8. Michael Evans 1
9. Jarryd Blair 4
10. Zac clarke 4
11. Brandon Jack 1
12. Jamie Elliot 4
13. Jeff Garlett 6
14. Lindsay Thomas 6
15. Shaun Burgoyne 6
16. Sam Naismith 1
17. Colin Garland 6
18. David McKay 2
19. Rhys Stanley 1
20. Harry Cunningham 1
21. Robbie Tarrant 2
22. Trent West 2
23. Tyson Goldsack 4
24. Ben Sinclair 2
25. Michael Close 2
26. Lachlan Plowman 3
27. Marley williams 4
28. Andrew Phillips 1
29. Jordan Schroder 1
30. Kurt Aylett 1
31. Viv Michie 1
32. Alex Browne 1
33. Brant Colledge 1
34. Aaron Mullet 6
35. Tom Bell 2
36. Darcy Lang 2
37. Jack Billings 3
38. Nathan Freeman 2
39. Malcolm Karpany 1
40. Ed Curnow 4
ROOKIE LIST1. Rory Atkins 1
2. Luke Thompson 1
3. Shane Biggs 1
4. Luke Delaney 1
5. Tim McGennesis 1
6. Daniel Robinson 1
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ESKIMOS
Current Team Value (125) 2013 Team Value (146) Down 21
SENIOR LIST1. Harry O'Brien 4
2. Aaron Edwards 6
3. Patrick Ryder 6
4. Luke Breust 6
5. Lewis Jetta 2
6. Tendai Mzungu 4
7. Dale Morris 2
8. Sam Rowe 2
9. Taylor Duryea 2
10. Tom Young 4
11. Daniel Hannebery 6
12. Michael Hibberd 9
13. David Ellard 2
14. Brad Ebert 6
15. Tim Sumner 1
16. Cameron Pederson 1
17. Ben Howlett 4
18. Todd Elton 1
19. Liam Picken 4
20. Marty Clarke 4
21. Dylan Van Unen 1
22. Jarrad Redden 2
23. Levi Greenwood 4
24. Jack Hombsch 2
25. Lachie Henderson 6
26. Daniel Currie 1
27. Dominic Barry 1
28. Tom Simpkin 2
29. Michael Firrito 4
30. Andrew Gaff 4
31. Jared Polec 1
32. Alex Silvagni 2
33. Isaac Smith 4
34. Ben Lennon 2
35. Riley Knight 1
36. Mitch Honeychurch 1
37. Zachary Merrett 1
38. Orazio Fantasia 1
39. Thomas Curren 1
40. George Burbury 1
ROOKIE LIST1. Anthony Morabito 1
2. Andrew Boston 1
3. Brad Hartman 1
4. Caolan Mooney 1
5. Henry Schade 2
6. Sam Gray 1
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DOLPHINS
Current Team Value (121) 2013 Team Value (193) Down 72
SENIOR LIST1. Jordan murdoch 2
2. Harley Bennell 6
3. Stephen Coniglio 4
4. Cyril Rioli 9
5. Matthew Kruezer 6
6. Dean Terlich 6
7. Tom Campbell 2
8. Cameron Sutcliffe 1
9. Nick Vlastuin 4
10. Eddie Betts 6
11. Scott Gumbleton 2
12. Tory Dickson 4
13. Cameron Guthrie 2
14. Tom Derickx 1
15. Sam Wright 4
16. Jamie Bennell 1
17. Clinton Jones 4
18. Jason Winderlich 6
19. Josh Hunt 4
20. Allan Toovey 4
21. Joel Patful 6
22. Sam Colquhoun 1
23. Scott McMahon 4
24. Corey Dell'Olio 1
25. Ryan Lester 2
26. Nathan Wright 2
27. Zachary Tuohy 2
28. Jack Hutchings 1
29. Travis Varcoe 2
30. Matt Rosa 4
31. Thomas Boyd 3
32. Dayle Garlett 1
33. Jonathon Marsh 1
34. Jake Barrett 1
35. Tom Cutler 1
36. Jake Kolodjashnij 1
37. Nathan Holman 1
38. Zachary Williams 2
39. Will Langford 1
40.
ROOKIE LIST1. Nicholas Hayes 1
2. Cameron Ellis-Yolmen 1
3. Jordan Bourke 1
4. Jesse Stringer 1
5. Cameron Wood 1
6. Nick Bourke 1
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LLAMAS
Current Team Value (107) 2013 Team Value (108) Down 1
SENIOR LIST1. Patrick Dangerfield 9
2. Jack Trengove 4
3. Chad Wingard 6
4. Jake Neade 2
5. Luke Brown 2
6. Jasper Pittard 2
7. Tom T Lynch 6
8. Bradley Hill 2
9. Jeremy Cameron 4
10. Max Gawn 2
11. Zac Smith 2
12. Devon Smith 2
13. Jake Batchelor 2
14. Jake Spencer 2
15. Clay Smith 2
16. Jackson Macrae 2
17. Andy Otten 4
18. Elliot Yeo 2
19. Terry Milera 2
20. Ben Jacobs 2
21. Jackson Thurlow 2
22. Ben Kennedy 1
23. Lachie Neale 2
24. Jimmy Toumpas 1
25. John Butcher 1
26. Sam Kerridge 2
27. Steven May 2
28. Tyrone Vickery 6
29. Daniel Gorringe 1
30. Jarryd Lyons 2
31. Jackson Ramsey 1
32. Shane Kersten 1
33. Brodie Murdoch 1
34. Michael Talia 2
35. Rory Laird 4
36. Matthew Scharenberg 2
37. Dominic Sheed 2
38. Blake Acres 2
39. Jay Kennedy-Harris 1
40. Mitchell Harvey 1
ROOKIE LIST1. Tom Temay 1
2. Tim O'Brien 1
3. Adam Carter 1
4. Jack Fitzpatrick 4
5. Eli Tembleton 1
6. Shaun Edwards 1
DRAFT ORDER - UPDATED THROUGHOUT TRADING
AXVS 2014 NATIONAL DRAFTTraded Picks in Red
ROUND 1:
1. Taiwan Dolphins
2. Tibetan Llamas
3. Bangkok Crabs
4. Vietnam Vipers
5. Bangkok Crabs
6. PNG Head Hunters
7. Tibetan Llamas
8. Australian Ales
9. Sri Lanka Strikers
10. Bangkok Crabs
11. PNG Head Hunters
12. Kathmandu Eskimos
13. UAE Tigers
14. Mongolian Lambs
15. Manila Folders
16. Vietnam Vipers
ROUND 2:
17. Taiwan Dolphins
18. Tibetan Llamas
19. Bangkok Crabs
20. Vietnam Vipers
21. Vietnam Vipers
22. Mongolian Lambs
23. Bangkok Crabs
24. Australian Ales
25. Sri Lanka Strikers
26. Mongolian Lambs
27. Kathmandu Eskimoes
28. Sri Lanka Strikers
29. Bangkok Crabs
30. Mongolian Lambs
31. PNG Head Hunters
32. Kathmandu Eskimos
ROUND 3:
33. Taiwan Dolphins
34. Tibetan Llamas
35. Bangkok Crabs
36. Vietnam Vipers
37. Taiwan Dolphins
38. Australian Ales
39. Tibetan Llamas
40. Kathmandu Eskimoes
41. Turkey Gazelles
42. Turkey Gazelles
43. Turkey Gazelles
44. Turkey Gazelles
45. Hong Kong Dongs
46. Taiwan Dolphins
47. Manila Folders
48. PNG Head Hunters
ROUND 4:
49. Taiwan Dolphins
50. Tibetan Llamas
51. Bangladesh Bears
52. Turkey Gazelles
53. KL Crocodiles
54. Laos Elephants
55. PNG Head Hunters
56. Manila Folders
57. Sri Lanka Strikers
58. Turkey Gazelles
59. Sri Lanka Strikers
60. Taiwan Dolphins
61. Hong Kong Dongs
62. Mongolian Lambs
63. Manila Folders
64. Bangladesh Bears
ROUND 5:
65. Kathmandu Eskimoes
66. Tibetan Llamas
67. Turkey Gazelles
68. Vietnam Vipers
69. KL Crocodiles
70. Laos Elephants
71. Mongolian Lambs
72. Australian Ales
73. Sri Lanka Strikers
74. Kathmandu Eskimoes
75. PNG Head Hunters
76. Taiwan Dolphins
77. Hong Kong Dongs
78. UAE Tigers
79. Manila Folders
80. Bangladesh Bears
AXVS 2014 ROOKIE/PRESEASON DRAFTROUND 1:
1. UAE Tigers
2. Mongolian Lambs
3. Kathmandu Eskimoes
4. Vietnam Vipers
5. Bangkok Crabs
6. KL Crocodiles
7. Laos Elephants
8. Australian Ales
9. Sri Lanka Strikers
10. Turkey Gazelles
11. PNG Head Hunters
12. Taiwan Dolphins
13. Hong Kong Dongs
14. Tibetan Llamas
15. PNG Head Hunters
16. Taiwan Dolphins
ROUND 2:
17. Vietnam Vipers
18. Tibetan Llamas
19. Kathmandu Eskimos
20. Australian Ales
21. Hong Kong Dongs
22. Taiwan Dolphins
23. Manila Folders
24. Vietnam Vipers
25. Australian Ales
26. Vietnam Vipers
27. Australian Ales
28. KL Crocodiles
29. Hong Kong Dongs
30. Mongolian Lambs
31. Manila Folders
32. Bangladesh Bears
ROUND 3:
33. Kathmandu Eskimoes
34. Tibetan Llamas
35. Bangkok Crabs
36. Taiwan Dolphins
37. Laos Elephants
38. Taiwan Dolphins
39. Kathmandu Eskimoes
40. Sri Lanka Strikers
41. Sri Lanka Strikers
42. Turkey Gazelles
43. PNG Head Hunters
44. Laos Elephants
45. Hong Kong Dongs
46. Mongolian Lambs
47. Manila Folders
48. Manila Folders
ROUND 4:
49. Taiwan Dolphins
50. Tibetan Llamas
51. Bangkok Crabs
52. Turkey Gazelles
53. KL Crocodiles
54. Laos Elephants
55. UAE Tigers
56. UAE Tigers
57. Sri Lanka Strikers
58. Hong Kong Dongs
59. PNG Head Hunters
60. Taiwan Dolphins
61. UAE Tigers
62. Laos Elephants
63. Manila Folders
64. Bangladesh Bears
ROUND 5:
65. Kathmandu Eskimoes
66. Tibetan Llamas
67. Bangkok Crabs
68. UAE Tigers
69. KL Crocodiles
70. Laos Elephants
71. Bangladesh Bears
72. Australian Ales
73. Sri Lanka Strikers
74. KL Crocodiles
75. PNG Head Hunters
76. Taiwan Dolphins
77. UAE Tigers
78. UAE Tigers
79. Manila Folders
80. Bangladesh Bears
PROPOSED AND RULED ON TRADES - TRADE WINDOW #1
* TRADES MUST BE POSTED IN THIS THREAD IN THE FOLLOWING FORMAT:Eskimos give: bla + bla
Vipers give: bla + bla
* YOU
MUST POST THE TRADE USING THE
TEAM NAME - NOT THE COACHES NAME.
TRADE WINDOW #1 TRADES:TRADE #1: APPROVED
Eskimos give: NAT 17 + NAT 49 + Rookie 1
Tigers give: NAT 7 + NAT 39 + Rookie 39
TRADE #2: APPROVED
Mongolian Lambs give: Jarryd Lyons + Jake Spencer + NAT 46 + Rookie 14
Tibetan Llamas give: Thomas J. Lynch (GC) + Rookie 2
TRADE #3: APPROVED
Tibetan Llamas give: Mitchell Wallis, Brandon Matera
Vietnam Vipers give: Max Gawn, Bradly Hill
TRADE #4: APPROVED
BANGLADESH BEARS Give: D. Stanley + R. Petterd + NAT 16 + NAT 32
VIETNAM VIPERS Give: M. LeCras + H. McIntosh + NAT 36
TRADE #5: APPROVED
Kathmandu give: Cyril Rioli + 33 NAT
Taiwan give: David Zaharakis + Aaron Edwards
TRADE #6: APPROVED
Strikers give: Steele Sidebotom + Scott Lycett + NAT 41
Dolphins give: Rory Sloane + Dan Jackson + Matt Rosa
TRADE #7: APPROVED
Bangladesh Bears give: Robert Murphy + Hamish McIntosh
Hong Kong Dongs give: Matthew Pavlich + NAT 29
TRADE #8: APPROVED
Bangladesh Bears give: Greg Broughton + Nathan Vardy + NAT #29 + NAT #36
Bangkok Crabs give: Dean Terlich + Jonathon Griffin + NAT #51
TRADE #9: APPROVED
Strikers give: Mitch Clark + Rookie 25
Folders give: Andrew Mackie + NAT 31 + Rookie 15
TRADE #10: APPROVED
Crocodiles give: Harley Bennell + Zac Tuohy + NAT 21
Dolphins give: Sidebottom + NAT 44.
TRADE #11: APPROVED
Kuala Lumpur give: Nat 5 + Rook 5 + Davis
Bangkok give: Darling + Nat 29
TRADE #12: APPROVED
Tigers give: Mark Baguley + Picks 17ND, 23ND,49ND
Gazelles give: Robbie Gray + Picks 26ND, 58RD, 74RD
Rationale: Baguley 21 games average 86 as a defender, Gray 18 games for a 97 average as a mid/fwd. Gray the more proven and better player but as a mid only potentially his value is lower as there is more depth at mid at that scoring level. Think Gray is a true premium and will improve going forward, but baguley will improve also and is a defender rare are defenders who can average 100 which baguley is already not too far off. The picks balance out the trade well enough.
TRADE #13: APPROVED
Tigers give: Lee Spurr + NAT 26
Head Hunters give: David Armitage + NAT 43
Rationale: Even trade players balanced by picks, not much to say here.
TRADE #14: APPROVED
Maniila give: Tom Bell + NAT 47
Head Hunters gibe: Josh Walker + NAT 26
Rationale: Even trade players balanced by picks, not much to say here.
TRADE #15: CANCELLED
Tigers give: NAT 43
Ales give: Matt Dick
Rationale: Trade based on another trade which was declined.
TRADE #16: DECLINED
Tigers give: Troy Menzel + Matt Dick
Vipers give: Shannon Hurn
Rationale: Vipers don't have the list movements to bring in two players.
TRADE #17: APPROVED
Tigers give: Issac Smith + 7 Rookie + 74 Rookie
Crocodiles give: Tom Bellchambers + NAT 37 + NAT 44 + 21 Rookie
Rationale: Even trade rising young mid for premium ruckman older. Close enough to even to go through.
TRADE #18: APPROVED
Tigers give: Menzel + NAT 37
Vipers give: Shannon Hurn
Rationale: Hurn a genuine premium defender coming off a down season likely due to waters out and being the only target for opposition taggers, menzel unknown but a high draft pick could be a player or not, Hurn still young also so trade balanced with a relatively late nat draft pick on menzel side. Even enough immediate win for tigers but over time if menzel develops trade will balance out or even favour vipers. Not even as it is today but even enough to go through.
TRADE #19: APPROVED
Taiwan gives NAT 21
Vipers give NAT 32 + NAT 37 and Rookie 36.
Rationale: Even trade of picks suits both parties.
TRADE #20: APPROVED
Tibet Give: N46
Kathmandu give: N39 + N7
Rationale: Part of trade in period #2. Reason for approval is trade is even enough, hombsch is a key defender of little value due to his position, Gaff is a potential elite midfielder. On the other side Neade is a small fwd capable of being a fwd #4 in most XVS once he hits his peak. May is a highly touted key fwd who has the potential to be a very good player and scorer in this comp. The Gaff side is still losing the trade but with picks 7 and 39 for pick 46 in the national draft the Gaff side may just be the winner.
TRADE #21: DECLINED
Bangladesh Bears give: Rookie 16
Kuala Lumpur Crocodiles give: Daniel Rich + Nat 29 + Nat 53
Taiwan Dolphins give: Jordan Lewis + Zach Tuohy
Bangladesh Bears get:
Kuala Lumpur Crocodiles get: Jordan Lewis + Zach Tuohy
Taiwan Dolphins get: Daniel Rich + Nat #29 + Nat #53 + Rookie #16
Rationale: Dolphins do not have the list moments to do the trade
TRADE #22: APPROVED
Tigers give: Farren Ray + 71ND
Headhunters give: Tom Bugg + 47ND
Rationale: Trade not exactly even but neither is it uneven enough to cause any concern to other teams.
TRADE #23: APPROVED
Australia Give: Danyle Pearce + Jarryd Blair + Rookie 40
PNG Give: David Swallow + Nat 27 + Rookie 27
Rationale: Trade is even enough swallow younger than blair and potentially much better but a way off catching up yet, pick exchange adds balance. Even enough
TRADE #24: APPROVED
Strikers give: NAT31 + ROK15
HeadHunters give: NAT59 + ROK40 + Matt De Boer
Rationale: Trade over two periods fairly even, no reason to block.
TRADE #25: APPROVED
Crocodiles Give: I.Smith
Dolphins Get: I.Smith
Rationale: Trade over two periods, borderline too strongly favouring the crocs who get 2 ultra premiums, and while the trade is slightly disadvantageous to other clubs for the immediate future in the long term it actually heavily favours the dolphins. Trade is even and well worked and due to the price being paid for the ultra premiums being fair and acceptable it is not classed as either hugely uneven or too disadvantageous to other clubs.
TRADE #26: APPROVED
Eskimos give: David Zaharakis + Liam Jones + Rookie 17
Ales give: Luke Breust + Taylor Durya + NAT 27 + NAT 40
Rationale: Nice even trade no cause for concern here well done lads.
TRADE #27: APPROVED
Manila gives: Aaron Hall + NAT pick 26
Loas gives: Alex Rance + NAT pick 22
Rationale: Rance the better player and a good defender often hard to find, but fwds are in high demand this season and score more here, balanced trade slight win for the folders but in no way uneven enough for any concern.
TRADE #28: APPROVED
Bangladesh give: Nat #48
PNG give:
Rationale: Two period trade, Pretty even trade here. Proven performer in Carrazzo who has had injury worries over the last couple of seasons so his currency is devalued. Evans looks to have good potential and the pick evens things out a bit..
TRADE #29: APPROVED
Dolphins give: Scott Lycett+ NAT 28
Strikers give: Matt Rosa
Rationale: I feel that this trade is a little uneven in favour of the Strikers, but not uneven enough to not allow through. Based on averages and potential, I feel that Guthrie and Lycett just about cancel each other out. That leaves Rosa for McGlynn and pick 28. Rosa had a poor year this year struggling with injury and if he can get back to his best scoring he will be a solid midfield player. McGlynn is a goalkicker so he will continue to score well and the pick does make it slightly uneven, but not by a margin that advantages one team over another by too great a margin.
TRADE #30: APPROVED
Elephants give: Scott Gumbleton+Rookie 22+Rookie 38
Dolphins give: Jordan Lewis+Rookie 28+Rookie 44
Rationale: Another fairly easy trade to approve here. Lewis is a proven premium, Gumbleton and Colquhoun are two players that will be solid depth as they develop and the picks also even things out a little.
TRADE #31: APPROVED
Ales give: Shane Edwards + Rook 24
Tigers give: Thomas Bugg + Rook 58
Rationale: Fairly easy trade to pass here, a couple of depth players balanced with a pick swap.
TRADE #32: APPROVED
Tigers give: Rook 71
Bears give: Rook 48
Rationale: Again pretty even here, Sandi and Sylvia should do better next year, but Hutchings looks like he will become a very good player.
TRADE #33: APPROVED
KATHMANDU GIVE: Trent Cotchin
BANGKOK GIVE: Harry O'Brien + Jared Polec + Rook 3
Rationale: There was much debate over this trade, but in the end it was decided that with the quality of players available at Rookie pick 3, the scoring power of Harry O and the potential of Polec, this trade was even enough to pass, even if a better deal could have been reached.
TRADE #34: APPROVED
Tigers give: Rookie Pick 24
Vipers get: Rookie Pick 24
Rationale: Part of deal involving Trade #9 in second trade period. Tigers wins now on averages, but Seedsman will become a mid only, if not next year then the year after. Rookie pick balances it slightly. Tigers wins short term, but Newnes should develop into a fine player to even it out.
TRADE #35: APPROVED
Bangladesh give: Rookie Pick 16
Taiwan get: Rookie Pick 16
Rationale: Part of trade #10 in second trade period. Adcock is a proven scorer but old and Terlich is young and has lots of potential, pick evens it out well.
TRADE #36: APPROVED
Crocodiles give: Daniel Rich + NAT Pick 29
Gazelles give: Sharrod Wellingham
Rationale: Part of trade #11 in second trade period. A win to KL in the short term, but with Essendon's forward line looking a little thin, Hurley should step up with extra responsibilities. Next year is probably make or break for him, so it is definitely a risky trade, but the addition of the draft pick makes things slightly more even. This trade is a bit uneven, but not too uneven to block.
TRADE #37: APPROVED
Elephants give: NAT 6
Head Hunters receive: NAT 6
Rationale: Part of Trade #12 in second trade period. Fairly even trade here. Ibbotson scored very well this year and looks to have become a premium, but also has injury concerns which make him somewhat of a risk.
TRADE #38: APPROVED
Kathmandu give: Beau Maister + Lewis Stevenson
Turkey give: NAT 74
Rationale: Part of Trade #13 in second trade period. Pick 74 doesn't mean much, so basically it is Young for Stevenson and Maister. Maister is an in and out player, same with Stevenson, and neither are proven big scorers, yet have potential at their clubs. Young seems to have found a spot in the best 22 so should continue to get games. A bit of risk involved in this trade, but mostly even.
TRADE #39: APPROVED
Lambs give: Trent West + R62
Lambs get: N26 + N38
Crocs give: R7 + R37
Crocs get: West + R6 + R28
Elephants give: N26 + N38 + R6 + R28
Elephants get: R7 + R37 + R62
Rationale: Part of trade #14 in second trade period. Wow, this was a big one to approve and process. I'll give reasoning for what all three teams are receiving.
Lambs - Trent West is a player who will get opportunity at a new club and play close to 22 games, so he is worth those picks with a pick swap involved.
Crocodiles - Tom Hickey is much younger and has more scoring potential than West, so he is probably worth marginally more than West, making the pick swaps fair.
Elephants - They move down the pick order a bit, also giving up one pick, and get Hickey in return, picks work out to be quite even.
TRADE #40: APPROVED
Gazelles give: NAT 17 + NAT 49
Dolphins give: NAT 41
Rationale: Part of trade #16 in second trade period. Stokes on his own is probably worth an early second round pick, the pick swap balances out pick 17. Easy trade to pass here.
TRADE #41: APPROVED
Ales give: David Swallow
Crabs receive: David Swallow
Rationale: Part of trade #17 in second trade period. Steven > JPK and Swallow > Buntine. With Swallow set to get DPP next year as well they are all replaced by players in the same position as well. Steven has just about become the number 1 mid at St Kilda, while Kennedy took a bit of a back step this year. Swallow is a bit further along in his development than Buntine, who still will take a bit of time to develop before he scores well consistently.
TRADE #42: APPROVED
Crabs give: NAT 36 and NAT 67
Gazelles give: NAT 23 and NAT 41
Rationale: Part of trade #18 in second trade period. Both are good young players, with Thomas worth more on what he has shown in the last year of football, while Atley's development seems to have stagnated somewhat.
TRADE #43: APPROVED
Tigers give Picks 47ND, 55ND, 23Rook,
48Rook.
Tigers get 71ND, 25Rook.
Headhunters give 71ND
Headhunters get 55ND
Folders give 25Rook.
Folders get 47ND, 23Rook, 48Rook.
Rationale: Trade over two periods very even.
TRADE #44: APPROVED
Crabs give Rook 19
Eskimos get Rook 19
Rationale: Part of trade #20 in second trade period. Fairly easy trade to approve here. Harper seems to have taken a few backwards steps in the pecking order at North recently, so rookie 19 is now decent compensation for him.
TRADE #45: APPROVED
Tigers give Picks 43ND, 44ND, Rook 25
Tigers get Rook 56, Rook 58, Rook 68
Vipers give Pick Rook 20, Rook 68
Vipers get Picks 43ND, 44ND, Rook 17
Part of trade #21 in second trade period.
Ales give Rook 17, Rook 56, Rook 58
Ales get Rook 20, Rook 25
TRADE #46: APPROVED
Manila give: Alex Rance + Hayden Ballantyne + NAT 22
Mongolia give: Nick Malceski + Josh Hill + NAT 38
Two period trade - even trade.
TRADE #47: APPROVED
Eskimos give: NAT 1
Dolphins give: NAT 12
I.Smith traded in second period by Dolphins to balance trade
TRADE #48: APPROVED
Tigers give: NAT 71
Lambs give: NAT 78 + Rookie 78
TRADE #49: APPROVED
Gazelles give: NAT 10 + NAT 29
Crabs receive: NAT 10 + NAT 29
Part of trade with JPK and Dan Rich in second trade period.
TRADE #50: APPROVED
Eskimos give: 46 NAT + 49 ROOK
Dolphins give: 32 NAT
Part of trade with Tom Derickx in second trade period.
TRADE #51: APPROVED
Vipers Give: N43 + N44 + N52 + R52
Gazelles Give: N36 + R26
TRADE #52: APPROVED
Folders give: NAT 38
Ales give: NAT 56
Part of trade with Jarrad Waite and Sam Reid in second trade period.
TRADE #53: APPROVED
Tigers give: Rook 21 + Rook 58
Dongs give: NAT 13 + Rook 61 + Rook 77
Part of trade with Paul Puopolo in second trade period.
TRADE #54: APPROVED
Crabs give: NAT 41
Gazelles receive: NAT 41
Part of straight swap for Xavier Ellis in second trade period.
REMAINING LIST MOVEMENTS:Kathmandu Eskimoes ( 0 OUT ) - ( 0 IN )
Tibetan Llamas ( 2 OUT ) - ( 1 IN )
Bangkok Crabs ( 0 OUT ) - ( 0 IN )
Vietnam Vipers ( 0 )
KL Crocodiles ( 0 OUT ) - ( 1 IN )
Laos Elephants ( 3 OUT ) - ( 3 IN )
UAE Tigers ( 0 OUT ) - ( 0 IN )
Australian Ales ( 0 OUT ) - ( 1 IN )
Sri Lanka Strikers ( 3 OUT ) - ( 1 IN )
Turkey Gazelles (3 OUT ) - ( 3 IN )
PNG Head Hunters ( 0 OUT ) - ( 0 IN )
Taiwan Dolphins ( 0 OUT) - ( 0 IN )
Hong Kong Dongs ( 4 OUT ) - ( 3 IN )
Mongolian Lambs ( 0 OUT ) - ( 2 IN )
Manila Folders ( 1 OUT ) - ( 0 IN )
Bangladesh Bears ( 0 OUT) - ( 1 IN )
PROPOSED AND RULED ON TRADES - TRADE WINDOW #2
* TRADES MUST BE POSTED IN THIS THREAD IN THE FOLLOWING FORMAT:Eskimos give: bla + bla + bla
Vipers give: bla + bla
* YOU
MUST POST THE TRADE USING THE
TEAM NAME - NOT THE COACHES NAME.
TRADE WINDOW #2 TRADES:TRADE #1: APPROVED
Tibet Give: Jack Hombsch + Andrew Gaff
Kathmandu Give: Jake Neade + Steven May
Rationale: See trade #20 in trade period #1 for reasoning.
TRADE #2: APPROVED
Strikers give: Jamie Elliott + Sam Gibson
HeadHunters give: Callan Ward
Rationale: See trade #24 in trade period #1 for reasoning.
TRADE #3: APPROVED
Crocodiles Give: Coniglio + Murdoch
Dolphins Give: Ablett + Enright
Rationale: See trade #25 in trade period #1 for reasoning.
TRADE #4: APPROVED
Bangladesh give: Michael Evans
PNG give: Andrew Carrazzo
Rationale: See trade #28 in trade period #1 for reasoning.
TRADE #5: APPROVED
Dolphins give: Ben McGlynn
Strikers give: Cameron Guthrie
Rationale: See trade #29 in trade period #1 for reasoning.
TRADE #6: APPROVED
Elephants give: Sam Colquhoun.
Dolphins receive: Sam Colquhoun
Rationale: See trade #30 in trade period #1 for reasoning.
TRADE #7: APPROVED
MONGOLIAN LAMBS give: Jack Riewoldt + Jack Newnes
UAE TIGERS give: Hamish Hartlett + Chris Knights
Rationale: Riewoldt and Hartlett are both worth quite a bit in this game for the roles that they play. Knights will score better short term, but Newnes will be better long term.
TRADE #8: APPROVED
Tigers give: Aaron Sandilands, Colin Sylvia, Shane Edwards
Bears give: Mark Hutchings, Mitch Robinson
Rationale: See trade #32 in trade period #1 for reasoning.
TRADE #9: APPROVED
Tigers give: Mark Hutchings, Jack Newnes
Vipers give: Shaun Grigg, Paul Seedsman
Rationale: See Trade #34 in First trade period.
TRADE #10: APPROVED
Bangladesh give: Dean Terlich
Taiwan give: Jed Adcock
Rationale: See Trade #35 in first trade period.
TRADE #11: APPROVED
Crocodiles give: Michael Hurley
Gazelles give: Heath Shaw
Rationale: See trade #36 in first trade period.
TRADE #12: APPROVED
Head Hunters give: Garrick Ibbotson
Elephants receive: Garrick Ibbotson
Rationale: See trade #37 in first trade period.
TRADE #13: APPROVED
Turkey give: Tom Young
Kathmandu receive: Tom Young
Rationale: See Trade #38 in first trade period.
TRADE #14: APPROVED
Crocs give: Hickey
Elephants get: Hickey
Rationale: See trade #39 in first trade period.
TRADE #15: APPROVED
Crocodiles give: Trent West
Head Hunters give: Jarrod Witts
Rationale: Fairly easy trade to pass. Witts is young and should develop into a decent, if not prolific scorer, while West will be a good short term scorer.
TRADE #16: APPROVED
Dolphins give: Matthew Stokes
Gazelles receive: Matthew Stokes
Rationale: See trade #40 in first trade period.
TRADE #17: APPROVED
Ales give: Josh P. Kennedy
Crabs give: Jack Steven + Matthew Buntine
Rationale: Part of trade #41 in first trade period.
TRADE #18: APPROVED
Crabs give: Josh Thomas
Gazelles give: Shaun Atley
Rationale: See trade #42 in first trade period.
TRADE #19: APPROVED
Tigers give
Tigers get Farren Ray
Headhunters give Farren Ray
Headhunters get Ed Curnow
Folders give Ed Curnow
Folders get
Rationale: See trade #43 in first trade period.
TRADE #20: APPROVED
Eskimos give: Kieran Harper
Crabs receive: Kieran Harper
Rationale: See trade #44 in first trade period.
TRADE #21: APPROVED
Tigers give Matt McDonough
Tigers get Majak Daw + Paul Puopolo
Vipers give Majak Daw + Paul Puopolo
Vipers get Matt McDonough
Part of trade #45 in first trade period.
TRADE #22: APPROVED
Mongolia give: Brian Lake
Manila receive: Brian Lake
Part of trade #46 in first trade period.
TRADE #23: APPROVED
Dolphins give: Isaac Smith
Eskimos receive: Isaac Smith
TRADE #24: APPROVED
Gazelles give: Daniel Rich
Crabs give: Josh P Kennedy
Part of trade #49 in first trade period.
TRADE #25: APPROVED
Eskimos give: Tom Derickx
Dolphins receive: Tom Derickx
Part of trade #50 in first trade period.
TRADE #26: APPROVED
Folders give: Sam Reid (SYD)
Ales give: Jarrad Waite
Part of trade #52 in first trade period.
TRADE #27: APPROVED
Tigers give: Paul Puopolo
Dongs receive: Paul Puopolo
Part of trade #53 in first trade period.
TRADE #28: APPROVED
Gazelles give: Xavier Ellis
Crabs receive: Xavier Ellis
Part of trade #54 in first trade period.
REMAINING LIST MOVEMENTS:Kathmandu Eskimoes ( 1 OUT ) - ( 1 IN )
Tibetan Llamas ( 3 OUT ) - ( 3 IN )
Bangkok Crabs ( 2 OUT ) - ( 1 IN )
Vietnam Vipers ( 1 OUT ) - ( 2 IN )
KL Crocodiles ( 1 OUT ) - ( 1 IN )
Laos Elephants ( 4 OUT ) - ( 3 IN )
UAE Tigers ( 1 OUT ) - ( 1 IN )
Australian Ales ( 3 OUT ) - ( 2 IN )
Sri Lanka Strikers (2 OUT ) - ( 3 IN )
Turkey Gazelles ( 1 OUT ) - ( 2 IN )
PNG Head Hunters ( 1 OUT ) - ( 1 IN )
Taiwan Dolphins ( 0 OUT ) - ( 0 IN )
Hong Kong Dongs ( 5 OUT ) - ( 4 IN )
Mongolian Lambs ( 2 OUT ) - ( 3 IN )
Manila Folders ( 3 OUT ) - ( 3 IN )
Bangladesh Bears ( 2 OUT ) - ( 2 IN )
SUPPLEMENTARY DRAFT FOR NEW COACHES
Only Trade:
UAE give: Allen Christensen, Stephen Hill, Campbell Heath
Vietnam give: Courtenay Dempsey, Troy Menzel, Matt McDonough
AXVS CLUB TRADING PLANS
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ALES
OUR PLAYERSON THE CHOPPING BLOCK: (Likely to delist or throw in to sweeten a deal)ON THE TABLE: (Looking to trade this player for a fair deal)COULD BE PERSUADED: (Would need a ripper deal to let these players go)Josh P Kennedy, Shane Mumford
UNTOUCHABLE: (Not available for trade no way no how)DRAFT PICKS: (Draft picks available for trade)
TARGET PLAYERSDefenders:
Midfielders:
Ruckmen:
Forwards:
Draft Picks:(http://i46.tinypic.com/2056yh4.png) (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67213.0.html)
CRABS
OUR PLAYERSON THE CHOPPING BLOCK: (Likely to delist or throw in to sweeten a deal)ON THE TABLE: (Looking to trade this player for a fair deal)COULD BE PERSUADED: (Would need a ripper deal to let these players go)UNTOUCHABLE: (Not available for trade no way no how)DRAFT PICKS: (Draft picks available for trade)
TARGET PLAYERSDefenders:
Midfielders:
Ruckmen:
Forwards:
Draft Picks:(http://i50.tinypic.com/2mealtv.png) (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,66883.0.html)
BEARS
OUR PLAYERSON THE CHOPPING BLOCK: (Likely to delist or throw in to sweeten a deal)ON THE TABLE: (Looking to trade this player for a fair deal)COULD BE PERSUADED: (Would need a ripper deal to let these players go)UNTOUCHABLE: (Not available for trade no way no how)Nat Fyfe , Nick RiewoldtDRAFT PICKS: (Draft picks available for trade)
TARGET PLAYERSDefenders:
Midfielders:
Ruckmen:
Forwards:
Draft Picks:(http://i46.tinypic.com/33yml2g.png) (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67022.0.html)
DONGS
OUR PLAYERSON THE CHOPPING BLOCK: (Likely to delist or throw in to sweeten a deal)ON THE TABLE: (Looking to trade this player for a fair deal)Every player is up for trade for the right deal fellas. PM Nails or myself
COULD BE PERSUADED: (Would need a ripper deal to let these players go)UNTOUCHABLE: (Not available for trade no way no how)DRAFT PICKS: (Draft picks available for trade)
TARGET PLAYERSDefenders:
Midfielders:
Ruckmen:
Forwards:
Draft Picks:(http://i47.tinypic.com/o5nzmv.png) (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,66207.0.html)
ESKIMOS
OUR PLAYERSON THE CHOPPING BLOCK: (Likely to delist or throw in to sweeten a deal)Justin Hoskin, Henry Schade, Alan Didak
ON THE TABLE: (Looking to trade this player for a fair deal)Lewis Jetta, Tendai Mzungu, Anthony Morabito, Liam Picken
COULD BE PERSUADED: (Would need a ripper deal to let these players go)Liam Jones, Jarrad Redden, Trent Cotchin, Ben Howlett, Paddy Ryder, Jake Neade, Andrew Boston, David Ellard, Steven May
UNTOUCHABLE: (Not available for trade no way no how)Dan Hannebery, Brad Ebert, Cyril Rioli, Lachlan Hendersen, Michael Hibberd,
DRAFT PICKS: (Draft picks available for trade)
TARGET PLAYERSDefenders:
Midfielders:
Ruckmen:
Forwards:
Draft Picks:(http://i45.tinypic.com/2eb9xg1.png) (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,72574.0.html)
CROCODILES
OUR PLAYERSON THE CHOPPING BLOCK: (Likely to delist or throw in to sweeten a deal)ON THE TABLE: (Looking to trade this player for a fair deal)COULD BE PERSUADED: (Would need a ripper deal to let these players go)UNTOUCHABLE: (Not available for trade no way no how)DRAFT PICKS: (Draft picks available for trade)
TARGET PLAYERSDefenders:
Midfielders:
Ruckmen:
Forwards:
Draft Picks:(http://i47.tinypic.com/j75fo2.png) (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,66517.0.html)
ELEPHANTS
OUR PLAYERSON THE CHOPPING BLOCK: (Likely to delist or throw in to sweeten a deal)Mav Weller, Sam Frost, Niall McKeever, Peter Yagmoor, Jamie Bennell, Ben Mabon, Ayden Kennedy, Ben Speight
ON THE TABLE: (Looking to trade this player for a fair deal)TAYLOR WALKER, Alex Rance, Sam Colquhoan, Jarryn Geary, Josh Bootsma, Ryan Harwood, Tom Sheridan, Matty White, Billy Longer, Jared Petrenko, Scott Gumbleton, Sam Day, Ben Stratton, Daniel Nicholson, Tom McDonald, Joel Wilkinson, Tanner Smith, Jesse White, Liam Shiels, Josh Green
COULD BE PERSUADED: (Would need a ripper deal to let these players go)Brodie Smith, Jack Redden, Michael Barlow, Travis Boak (unlikely), Dylan Shiel, Brad McKenzie, Sam Dunell, Stewart Crameri, Alex Fasolo
UNTOUCHABLE: (Not available for trade no way no how)Jack Watts, Oliver Wines (would have to awesome), Lachie Whitfield (same as Wines), Scott Selwood
DRAFT PICKS: (Draft picks available for trade)
TARGET PLAYERSDefenders:
Midfielders:
Ruckmen:
Forwards:
Draft Picks:(http://i49.tinypic.com/12639rl.png) (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,66602.0.html)
FOLDERS
OUR PLAYERSON THE CHOPPING BLOCK: (Likely to delist or throw in to sweeten a deal)Simon Black, Tom Bell, Brett Thornton, Ash McGrath, James Magner, Aiden Corr, Dean Brogan, Sam Lonergan, Nick Joyce, Harrison Marsh
ON THE TABLE: (Looking to trade this player for a fair deal)Nick Dal Santo, Nathan Foley, Michael Johnson, Sam Gilbert, Daniel Merrett, Craig Bird, Sam Reid (Syd), Adam Schneider, Ed Curnow, Quinten Lynch, Nick Duigan, Jamie MacMillan, Tom Williams, Aaron Hall, Jeremy Laidler, Tommy Walsh, Darren Pfeiffer, Josh Saunders, Lewis Roberts-Thomson, Jack Hannath, Matt Maguire
COULD BE PERSUADED: (Would need a ripper deal to let these players go)Dayne Zorko, Brock McLean, Brent Reilly, Andrew Mackie, Will Minson, Hayden Ballantyne, Bernie Vince, Matthew Lobbe, Rohan Bewick, Sam Dwyer
UNTOUCHABLE: (Not available for trade no way no how)Dane Swan, Brendon Goddard, Travis Cloke, Chris Mayne, Ryan Bastinac
DRAFT PICKS: (Draft picks available for trade)
All available for established players
TARGET PLAYERSCover on all lines
Defenders:
Midfielders:
Ruckmen:
Forwards:
Draft Picks:(http://i50.tinypic.com/34zx3ll.png) (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,70127.0.html)
LAMBS
OUR PLAYERSON THE CHOPPING BLOCK: (Likely to delist or throw in to sweeten a deal)Taylor Hine, Kyle Hartigan, Nathan Lovett-Murray, Daniel Pearce, Danny Butcher, Murray Newman, Clay Cameron, Patrick Veszpremi, Max Duffy, Cadeyn Williams
ON THE TABLE: (Looking to trade this player for a fair deal)Nathan Bock, Brian Lake, Nick Smith, Tom Logan, Stephen Gilham, Nathan van Berlo, Andrew Moore, Travis Colyer, Jarryd Lyons, Trent West, Jake Spencer, Josh Hill, Aaron Young, Lynden Dunn
COULD BE PERSUADED: (Would need a ripper deal to let these players go)Nick Malceski, Scott Thompson, Ryan O'Keefe, Matt Priddis, Adam Cooney, Jack Newnes, Taylor Hunt, George Horlin-Smith, Jon Giles, Mike Pyke, Craig Moller, Steve Johnson, Kurt Tippett, Drew Petrie, Hayden Crozier
UNTOUCHABLE: (Not available for trade no way no how)Pearce Hanley, Bachar Houli, Jared McVeigh, Marc Murphy,Jack Riewoldt, Charlie Dixon
DRAFT PICKS: (Draft picks available for trade)
All draft picks will be available
TARGET PLAYERSDefenders: Yes
Midfielders: Young
Ruckmen:
Forwards:
Draft Picks:(http://i50.tinypic.com/18zl9l.png) (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,68726.0.html)
HEADHUNTERS
OUR PLAYERSON THE CHOPPING BLOCK: (Likely to delist or throw in to sweeten a deal)Jude Bolton, Karmichael Hunt, Michael Close, Brant Colledge, Mark Nicoski, Ben Sinclair, Tom Gillies, Andrew Phillips, Jordan Schroder, Kurt Aylett, Viv Michie, Alex Browne, Tim Golds, Joshua Walker, Joseph Redfern, Ben Richmond, Gideon Simon
ON THE TABLE: (Looking to trade this player for a fair deal)Matt DeBoer, Andrew Carrazzo, David Swallow, Jarrod Witts, Jeff Garlett, Colin Garland, David Mackay, Rhys Stanley, Robbie Tarrant, Tyson Goldsack, Lachlan Plowman, Harry Cunningham, Sam Naismith, Brandon Jack, Luke Thompson, Rory Atkins
COULD BE PERSUADED: (Would need a ripper deal to let these players go)David Armitage, Dyson Heppell, Thomas Bugg, Lindsay Thomas, Brendan Whitecross, Shaun Burgoyne
UNTOUCHABLE: (Not available for trade no way no how)Andrew Swallow, Callan Ward, Garrick Ibbotson, Tom Rockliff, Zac clarke, Aaron Mullet
DRAFT PICKS: (Draft picks available for trade)
Draft picks available for trade
TARGET PLAYERSDefenders:
Midfielders:
Ruckmen:
Forwards:
Draft Picks:(http://i48.tinypic.com/mhqb9c.png) (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,66628.0.html)
STRIKERS
OUR PLAYERSON THE CHOPPING BLOCK: (Likely to delist or throw in to sweeten a deal)Kepler Bradley, Aaron Davey, John Ceglar
ON THE TABLE: (Looking to trade this player for a fair deal)Mitch Clark, Gary Rohan, Jamie Elliot, Justin Westhoff, Rhyce Shaw, Nathan Hrovat
COULD BE PERSUADED: (Would need a ripper deal to let these players go)Tom Scully, Reece Conca, Josh J. Kennedy, Daisy Thomas
UNTOUCHABLE: (Not available for trade no way no how)Kieran Jack, Steele Sidebottom
DRAFT PICKS: (Draft picks available for trade)
TARGET PLAYERSDefenders: Guns
Midfielders: Young
Ruckmen: Depth
Forwards:
Draft Picks:(http://i49.tinypic.com/2wd7v3d.png) (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,68320.0.html)
DOLPHINS
OUR PLAYERSON THE CHOPPING BLOCK: (Likely to delist or throw in to sweeten a deal)Cameron Richardson, Leigh Osbourne, Brett Ebert, Jack Osborn, Jason Blake
ON THE TABLE: (Looking to trade this player for a fair deal)Joel Patfull, Jason Blake, Kyle Hardingham, Orren Stephenson, Corey Dell'Olio, Kyal Horsley, Cameron Ellis-Yolmen, Nick Hayes, Jordon Bourke, Alex Howson, Alan Toovey, Josh Hunt, Tom Campbell, Sam Wright, Aaron Edwards, Alwyn Davey, Darren Jolly
COULD BE PERSUADED: (Would need a ripper deal to let these players go)Corey Enright, Jed Adcock, Nick Vlastuin, Rory Sloane, David Zaharakis, Jordan Lewis, Mathew Stokes, Daniel Jackson, Nathan Wright, Tory Dickson, Jared Brennan, Scott McMahon, Ryan Lester, Matt Rosa, Joel Corey, Nick Lower, Clinton Jones, Jason Porplyzia, Eddie Betts, Travis Varcoe, Ben McGlynn, Jason Winderlich
UNTOUCHABLE: (Not available for trade no way no how)Gary Ablett, Matthew Kreuzer,
DRAFT PICKS: (Draft picks available for trade)
TARGET PLAYERSDefenders:
Midfielders:
Ruckmen:
Forwards:
Draft Picks:(http://i48.tinypic.com/vsn8tk.png) (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,66638.0.html)
LLAMAS
OUR PLAYERSON THE CHOPPING BLOCK: (Likely to delist or throw in to sweeten a deal)T Temay, S Siggins, A Carter, T Couch, A Forster, B O'Hanlon, Shaun Edwards, L Russell
ON THE TABLE: (Looking to trade this player for a fair deal)Matera, TJ Lynch
COULD BE PERSUADED: (Would need a ripper deal to let these players go)TomJ Lynch, Mitch Wallis, Brandon Matera, B Jacobs, S Shaw, E Yeo, M Talia
UNTOUCHABLE: (Not available for trade no way no how)Cameron, Wingard, Dangerman, Lairdy, Hombsch, Three Smith's, Jimmy, B Kennedy, Macrae, Thurlow, Gorringe
DRAFT PICKS: (Draft picks available for trade)
TARGET PLAYERSDefenders:
Midfielders:
Ruckmen: Wanting
Forwards:
Draft Picks:(http://i50.tinypic.com/drb0k7.png) (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,66510.0.html)
GAZELLES
OUR PLAYERSON THE CHOPPING BLOCK: (Likely to delist or throw in to sweeten a deal)ON THE TABLE: (Looking to trade this player for a fair deal) Brad Sewell
Brad Sewell
COULD BE PERSUADED: (Would need a ripper deal to let these players go)UNTOUCHABLE: (Not available for trade no way no how) Tom Mitchell, Brandon Ellis, Jonathan Simpkin
Tom Mitchell, Brandon Ellis, Jonathan Simpkin
DRAFT PICKS: (Draft picks available for trade)
TARGET PLAYERSDefenders: multiple
Midfielders: a premium
Ruckmen:
Forwards: multiple
Draft Picks:(http://i45.tinypic.com/u25x3.png) (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,68409.0.html)
TIGERS
OUR PLAYERSON THE CHOPPING BLOCK: (Likely to delist or throw in to sweeten a deal)T.Richards, D.Talia, J.Hamling, D.Astbury, P.McGinity, J.Polkinghorne, R.Bail, L.Jong, D.Stewart, J.Lloyd, A.Collins, T.McIntyre.
ON THE TABLE: (Looking to trade this player for a fair deal)C.Yarran, L.Spurr, S.Dempster, J.Gibson, M.Baguley, C.Heath, B.Martin, S.Hill, F.Ray, K.Martin, J.Cachia, S.Higgins, C.Knights, S.McKernan, S.Martin, A.Sandilands.
COULD BE PERSUADED: (Would need a ripper deal to let these players go)H.Hartlett, J.Harbrow, R.Douglas, C.Pearce, J.Ziebell, T.Greene, I.Smith, C.Sylvia, A.Christensen, R.Henderson, T.Lee, T.Menzel, L.Hunter, M.McDonough.
UNTOUCHABLE: (Not available for trade no way no how)Brett Deledio, Dustin Martin, Ryan Griffen
DRAFT PICKS: (Draft picks available for trade)
TARGET PLAYERSDefenders:
Midfielders:
Ruckmen:
Forwards:
Draft Picks:(http://i49.tinypic.com/hs3syu.png) (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,66636.0.html)
VIPERS
OUR PLAYERSON THE CHOPPING BLOCK: (Likely to delist or throw in to sweeten a deal)ON THE TABLE: (Looking to trade this player for a fair deal)HMac, Warnock, Majak Daw or Mr GAWN, Lewis Pierce, Christian Howard, Troy Chaplin, Tony Armstrong, Thomas Jonas, Tim Mohr, Mark Whiley, Josh Bruce, Andrew Mcinnes, Chris Judd, Rhys Palmer, Sam Blease, Cale Morton, Bradley Hill, Tim McGenniss, Matt Jones, Martin Gleeson, Robin Nahas, Paul Puopolo, Taylor Garner
COULD BE PERSUADED: (Would need a ripper deal to let these players go) Tyson , Melksham , Dempsey , Myers , Reid , Lecras ,
UNTOUCHABLE: (Not available for trade no way no how) Beams , Luenberger ,
DRAFT PICKS: (Draft picks available for trade) All on the table
TARGET PLAYERSDefenders: 1 premium, 1 rising/star mid level senior player
Midfielders: 1 premium, 1 rising/star mid level senior player
Ruckmen: none
Forwards: 1 premium, 1 rising/star mid level senior player
Draft Picks: None
Nice Collie.
Kuala Lumpur are open to trade talks, just pm either myself or Ele.
Squad is here http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,72574.msg998666.html#msg998666
Quote from: Ricochet on September 05, 2013, 12:57:26 PM
Nice Collie.
Kuala Lumpur are open to trade talks, just pm either myself or Ele.
Squad is here http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,72574.msg998666.html#msg998666
squad is also here: http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,86823.msg1199346.html#msg1199346
2nd post this thread (all squads).
they better all be correct - let me know if any are not....
Quote from: Colliwobblers on September 05, 2013, 02:12:47 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 05, 2013, 12:57:26 PM
Nice Collie.
Kuala Lumpur are open to trade talks, just pm either myself or Ele.
Squad is here http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,72574.msg998666.html#msg998666
squad is also here: http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,86823.msg1199346.html#msg1199346
2nd post this thread (all squads).
they better all be correct - let me know if any are not....
Haha i know but you have to scroll through 20 teams to get down to the mighty Crocodiles ;)
Nice work Colli :D
Even though this posted in the other thread it thought I'd post it here too.
Eskimos give: NAT Pick 17 + NAT pick 49 + Rookie 1
Tigers give: NAT Pick 7 + NAT pick 39 + Rookie 39
Quote from: JROO8 on September 05, 2013, 04:00:20 PM
Nice work Colli :D
Even though this posted in the other thread it thought I'd post it here too.
Eskimos give: NAT Pick 17 + NAT pick 49 + Rookie 1
Tigers give: NAT Pick 7 + NAT pick 39 + Rookie 39
this one is
approved, thanks for the easy one first up :)
rationale listed below the pick in the trade window #1 thread.
0 list movements used by either club.
Mongolian Lambs give: Jarryd Lyons + Jake Spencer + Pick #46 (ND) + Pick #15 (RD)
Tibetan Llamas give: Thomas J. Lynch (GC) + Pick #2 (RD)
tbagrocks to confirm.
IMPORTANT NOTE ON LIST MOVEMENTS
HOW IT WORKS WITH UNEVEN TRADES:
Using the trade above as an example:
Mongolian Lambs give: Jarryd Lyons + Jake Spencer + Nicholas Smith + Pick #15 (RD)
Tibetan Llamas give: Thomas J. Lynch (GC) + Pick #2 (RD)
LIST MOVEMENTS:
Lambs = 3
Llamas = 3
BUT:
The Lambs can still trade IN 2 NEW players from other clubs WITHOUT it counting as a NEW List Movement.
(But if trading out a new player to trade a player in this counts as yet another list movement - however it won't if they trade a pick out for a player in)
AND
The Llamas can still trade OUT 2 NEW players from it's list without it counting as NEW List Movement.
(But if trading in a new player to trade a player out this counts as yet another list movements - however it won't if they trade a player out for a pick in)
CLEAR AS MUD ?
Clear as mud Col! 8)
If I don't use those two "free" list movements, does that mean I just don't delist two players that would otherwise have to be delisted? ???
Quote from: Toga on September 07, 2013, 02:51:03 PM
Clear as mud Col! 8)
If I don't use those two "free" list movements, does that mean I just don't delist two players that would otherwise have to be delisted? ???
yes pretty much - you just need to delist enough players to have enough room ahead of the national and rookie/preseason drafts to be able to draft the number of players you want to (including promoting any rookies) to fill your senior list back up to 40.
for example if you delist and trade your senior list to 36 you can do 4 of the following ( draft nat draft players - draft preseason players to your senior list - promote rookies to your senior list)
obviously if you get your senior list to 32 and you don't have 8 nat draft picks you will need to fill your senior list up through the preseaon draft.
either by having enough combined nat draft picks and rookie/preseason draft picks - or by getting preseason draft picks given to you at THE END of the AXVS rookie/preseason draft.
also you won't be able to put rookies drafted on your senior list
and if you don't have enough senior players come our rookie preseason draft you will HAVE to pick preseason picks not rookie picks until your senior list is full.
Quote from: Toga on September 07, 2013, 02:31:39 PM
Mongolian Lambs give: Jarryd Lyons + Jake Spencer + Nicholas Smith + Pick #15 (RD)
Tibetan Llamas give: Thomas J. Lynch (GC) + Pick #2 (RD)
tbagrocks to confirm.
Is that legit? A top draftee and Lynch who will be a gun for 3 players I've never heard of?
Yep lez. Lyons is a 85 avg M/F with great potential - his average is higher than the GC Lynch so...
They need a ruck and Spencer is a young up and coming ruck. Pick #2 rookie as well, they get an ND & a rookie pick in compensation.
Llamas give: Mitchell Wallis, Brandon Matera
Vipers give: Max Gawn, Bradly Hill
Quote from: whatlez on September 07, 2013, 03:20:54 PM
Quote from: Toga on September 07, 2013, 02:31:39 PM
Mongolian Lambs give: Jarryd Lyons + Jake Spencer + Nicholas Smith + Pick #15 (RD)
Tibetan Llamas give: Thomas J. Lynch (GC) + Pick #2 (RD)
tbagrocks to confirm.
Is that legit? A top draftee and Lynch who will be a gun for 3 players I've never heard of?
That's fairly poor form on your part if you haven't heard of those 3 players and you're a football/fantasy football fan. :P
Quote from: Toga on September 07, 2013, 02:31:39 PM
Mongolian Lambs give: Jarryd Lyons + Jake Spencer + Pick #46 (ND) + Pick #15 (RD)
Tibetan Llamas give: Thomas J. Lynch (GC) + Pick #2 (RD)
tbagrocks to confirm.
I do ..... I mean confirm :P
All of a sudden... The Llamas ruck dept looks not bad at all!! 8)
Quote from: tbagrocks on September 07, 2013, 03:40:32 PM
Llamas give: Mitchell Wallis, Brandon Matera
Vipers give: Max Gawn, Bradly Hill
confirm
wallis avg 91 matera DNP (hopefully will get back into team)
hill avg 83 gawn avg 71 (#1 ruck at roo's dees)
Quote from: Toga on September 07, 2013, 03:44:39 PM
All of a sudden... The Llamas ruck dept looks not bad at all!! 8)
We only have 5. :P (6 if my boy Ty gets DPP :o)
Quote from: NigeyS on September 07, 2013, 03:41:52 PM
Quote from: whatlez on September 07, 2013, 03:20:54 PM
Quote from: Toga on September 07, 2013, 02:31:39 PM
Mongolian Lambs give: Jarryd Lyons + Jake Spencer + Nicholas Smith + Pick #15 (RD)
Tibetan Llamas give: Thomas J. Lynch (GC) + Pick #2 (RD)
tbagrocks to confirm.
Is that legit? A top draftee and Lynch who will be a gun for 3 players I've never heard of?
That's fairly poor form on your part if you haven't heard of those 3 players and you're a football/fantasy football fan. :P
Oh it's rookie pick, but I don't know what team Lyons plays for... Maybe Adelaide? Spencer is a spud. Fitzpatrick is better and Nick Smith is a terrible scorer.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on September 07, 2013, 03:46:44 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on September 07, 2013, 03:40:32 PM
Llamas give: Mitchell Wallis, Brandon Matera
Vipers give: Max Gawn, Bradly Hill
confirm
wallis avg 91 matera DNP (hopefully will get back into team)
hill avg 83 gawn avg 71 (#1 ruck at roo's dees)
I don't like this one either. I wouldn't do Matera for both, but whatever.
It's probably because I could give more and he just traded pre-mature before seeing seeing out the season.
You mean all those discussions all year for those guys you wanted but never actually maturely wanted to trade, because you always troll and want better?
Yeah to bad ;)
Quote from: whatlez on September 07, 2013, 04:59:45 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on September 07, 2013, 03:46:44 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on September 07, 2013, 03:40:32 PM
Llamas give: Mitchell Wallis, Brandon Matera
Vipers give: Max Gawn, Bradly Hill
confirm
wallis avg 91 matera DNP (hopefully will get back into team)
hill avg 83 gawn avg 71 (#1 ruck at roo's dees)
I don't like this one either. I wouldn't do Matera for both, but whatever.
It's probably because I could give more and he just traded pre-mature before seeing seeing out the season.
stats add up and rucks are more valuable as much rarer no?
matera can be on traded i honestly think i could get more for a very young #1 ruck who scored so well in first full year, and who is also 3 years along the development path...
gawn pretty valuable, but you can always talk to me about matera.
still trade not approved yet.
i'll have to do that tonight and go over it with fine tooth comb.
BANGLADESH BEARS Give: D. Stanley + R. Petterd + NAT 16 + NAT 32
VIETNAM VIPERS Give: M. LeCras + H. McIntosh + NAT 36
Adamant to confirm.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on September 07, 2013, 06:15:44 PM
BANGLADESH BEARS Give: D. Stanley + R. Petterd + NAT 16 + NAT 32
VIETNAM VIPERS Give: M. LeCras + H. McIntosh + NAT 36
Adamant to confirm.
Confirmed.
Andrew Walker will be a defender next year, so he can replace Stanley down back, and Lecca will slot in at F3/4 nicely. Sad to see Stanley go though as he was a real X-Factor for us during the finals.
Quote from: Adamant on September 07, 2013, 06:20:22 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on September 07, 2013, 06:15:44 PM
BANGLADESH BEARS Give: D. Stanley + R. Petterd + NAT 16 + NAT 32
VIETNAM VIPERS Give: M. LeCras + H. McIntosh + NAT 36
Adamant to confirm.
Confirmed.
Andrew Walker will be a defender next year, so he can replace Stanley down back, and Lecca will slot in at F3/4 nicely. Sad to see Stanley go though as he was a real X-Factor for us during the finals.
Nice trade here for Ad, I was after LeCras and HMac myself but didn't have what Colli was looking for.
Yeah, just hope that HMac can stay fit. If he can, that will be massive for us. If he breaks down again, Colli has won the trade pretty easily.
Quote from: JROO8 on September 07, 2013, 06:22:23 PM
Quote from: Adamant on September 07, 2013, 06:20:22 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on September 07, 2013, 06:15:44 PM
BANGLADESH BEARS Give: D. Stanley + R. Petterd + NAT 16 + NAT 32
VIETNAM VIPERS Give: M. LeCras + H. McIntosh + NAT 36
Adamant to confirm.
Confirmed.
Andrew Walker will be a defender next year, so he can replace Stanley down back, and Lecca will slot in at F3/4 nicely. Sad to see Stanley go though as he was a real X-Factor for us during the finals.
Nice trade here for Ad, I was after LeCras and HMac myself but didn't have what Colli was looking for.
Yes sorry JR00 , all about me needing senior starting XV players. and the pick a bonus.
your offer was fair but i wouldn't have started the players involved so of no benefit to me.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on September 07, 2013, 06:30:57 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on September 07, 2013, 06:22:23 PM
Quote from: Adamant on September 07, 2013, 06:20:22 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on September 07, 2013, 06:15:44 PM
BANGLADESH BEARS Give: D. Stanley + R. Petterd + NAT 16 + NAT 32
VIETNAM VIPERS Give: M. LeCras + H. McIntosh + NAT 36
Adamant to confirm.
Confirmed.
Andrew Walker will be a defender next year, so he can replace Stanley down back, and Lecca will slot in at F3/4 nicely. Sad to see Stanley go though as he was a real X-Factor for us during the finals.
Nice trade here for Ad, I was after LeCras and HMac myself but didn't have what Colli was looking for.
Yes sorry JR00 , all about me needing senior starting XV players. and the pick a bonus.
your offer was fair but i wouldn't have started the players involved so of no benefit to me.
All good Colli, Stanley and Petterd should be decent players for you.
i like how you say "decent" - they need to be better than decent ! but tend to agree... still didnt need hmac and if one of them can match lecras i am better of for doing the trade - then there is pick #16.
works for both of us... if hmac plays a full season as a top 5 ruck again
Btw Colli, that trade only uses up 2 list movements for us, correct?
Quote from: tbagrocks on September 07, 2013, 03:42:37 PM
Quote from: Toga on September 07, 2013, 02:31:39 PM
Mongolian Lambs give: Jarryd Lyons + Jake Spencer + Pick #46 (ND) + Pick #14 (RD)
Tibetan Llamas give: Thomas J. Lynch (GC) + Pick #2 (RD)
tbagrocks to confirm.
I do ..... I mean confirm :P
Approved - write up beneath trade listing in thread.
But you listed it with pick #15 in RD - it is actually pick #14.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on September 07, 2013, 05:26:14 PM
Quote from: whatlez on September 07, 2013, 04:59:45 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on September 07, 2013, 03:46:44 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on September 07, 2013, 03:40:32 PM
Llamas give: Mitchell Wallis, Brandon Matera
Vipers give: Max Gawn, Bradly Hill
confirm
wallis avg 91 matera DNP (hopefully will get back into team)
hill avg 83 gawn avg 71 (#1 ruck at roo's dees)
I don't like this one either. I wouldn't do Matera for both, but whatever.
It's probably because I could give more and he just traded pre-mature before seeing seeing out the season.
stats add up and rucks are more valuable as much rarer no?
matera can be on traded i honestly think i could get more for a very young #1 ruck who scored so well in first full year, and who is also 3 years along the development path...
gawn pretty valuable, but you can always talk to me about matera.
still trade not approved yet.
i'll have to do that tonight and go over it with fine tooth comb.
Having the Melbourne rucks can work... just need Fitzpatrick. Yes Matera would look good at the Elephants... But I honestly see Matera (gun) and Wallis (will improve) for Gawn (I don't rate too highly) and Hill who will always be around the vest and never elite. But meh Llamas for the spoon! lol. Props to you Cw for getting 2 good players for minimal price.
Thanks Lez, but hill did get a rising star nomination, only averaged 9 less than wallis and is in the hawks best 22, he is the new young for them.
i don't like him but many many people do....
and gawn will surprise you, sandi height, a few more KG in the gym this preseason and Roos as coach.... he is ahead of fitz fitz id thef fwd/ruck pinch hit guy. gawn the #1 ruck only.
Spencer? And he's like 5 cm shorter than Sandi :P
Quote from: whatlez on September 07, 2013, 07:47:25 PM
Spencer? And he's like 5 cm shorter than Sandi :P
gawn is my trade spencer is the other one, gawn much better as pure ruck than spencer.
spencer and fitz will be the #2 fwd/ruck types.
Quote from: Adamant on September 07, 2013, 06:53:04 PM
Btw Colli, that trade only uses up 2 list movements for us, correct?
yes 2 in 2 out.
i have to do it as in and out separate this season due to uneven trades being allowed it is a little complicated, i explained it above in a post.
but you have used 2 with that trade yes.
Quote from: tbagrocks on September 07, 2013, 03:40:32 PM
Llamas give: Mitchell Wallis, Brandon Matera
Vipers give: Max Gawn, Bradly Hill
approved
Quote from: Adamant on September 07, 2013, 06:20:22 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on September 07, 2013, 06:15:44 PM
BANGLADESH BEARS Give: D. Stanley + R. Petterd + NAT 16 + NAT 32
VIETNAM VIPERS Give: M. LeCras + H. McIntosh + NAT 36
Adamant to confirm.
Confirmed.
Andrew Walker will be a defender next year, so he can replace Stanley down back, and Lecca will slot in at F3/4 nicely. Sad to see Stanley go though as he was a real X-Factor for us during the finals.
Approved
Quote from: Colliwobblers on September 05, 2013, 11:46:51 AM
Mongolian Lambs ( 3 OUT ) - ( 4 IN )
Sorry Colli, just wanted to clear up what this means!
So I've used 2 list movements as far as I can tell; so does the "3 OUT" mean that I have three outwards list movements remaining, and "4 IN" means I have room for four more players to come into my list?
Would be great if you could clarify! :)
Quote from: Toga on September 08, 2013, 10:09:38 AM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on September 05, 2013, 11:46:51 AM
Mongolian Lambs ( 3 OUT ) - ( 4 IN )
Sorry Colli, just wanted to clear up what this means!
So I've used 2 list movements as far as I can tell; so does the "3 OUT" mean that I have three outwards list movements remaining, and "4 IN" means I have room for four more players to come into my list?
Would be great if you could clarify! :)
Yes so you can only trade another 3 players out - this will mean 5 players have gone out making 5 changes to your list.
But you have only brought 1 player in so far so you can actually still bring another 4 in still only making it 5 total list changes.
this can be done by a 2 in for 1 out player trade or a player in for a pick out without exceeding the 3 more players out...
make sense? i know its a bit messy when it isnt 1 for 1...
Yepp, gotcha! :)
I would like to see my team ranking for 2014.
Woulda payed alot more for Lynch and Matera. Probs shop around hey?
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 08, 2013, 01:00:10 PM
Woulda payed alot more for Lynch and Matera. Probs shop around hey?
My exact point. I wouldn't of done Matera for both Hill and Gawn and cw gets Wallis as well. Lol.
Been sayn all year Matera was available ::)
Did what I had to do to get Gawn! Trading players who most likely wouldn't make my starting 15! ;)
Goldstein > Gawn
Kathmandu give: Cyril Rioli + Pick 33 NAT
Taiwan give: David Zaharakis + Aaron Edwards
Colli to approve and for Memph to accept again.
Confirmed/Deal :D
Strikers give: Steele Sidebotom + Scott Lycett + NAT pick 41
Dolphins give: Rory Sloane + Dan Jackson + Matt Rosa
Memph to confirm.
Confirm
flower >:(
Lads been busy, will update trade list and team lists and pick list later, both will go through will leave reasons why in the usual place.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on September 08, 2013, 09:47:29 PM
Lads been busy, will update trade list and team lists and pick list later, both will go through will leave reasons why in the usual place.
Great news Colli :) really happy to get back into trading!
Quote from: Jayman on September 08, 2013, 09:39:56 PM
Strikers give: Steele Sidebotom + Scott Lycett + NAT pick 41
Dolphins give: Rory Sloane + Dan Jackson + Matt Rosa
Memph to confirm.
Jay wtf? Surely I deserve the decency of a reply if we've been in talks
Quote from: Ricochet on September 08, 2013, 10:21:41 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 08, 2013, 09:39:56 PM
Strikers give: Steele Sidebotom + Scott Lycett + NAT pick 41
Dolphins give: Rory Sloane + Dan Jackson + Matt Rosa
Memph to confirm.
Jay wtf? Surely I deserve the decency of a reply if we've been in talks
I thought I did mate? :-X
Quote from: Jayman on September 08, 2013, 10:22:19 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 08, 2013, 10:21:41 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 08, 2013, 09:39:56 PM
Strikers give: Steele Sidebotom + Scott Lycett + NAT pick 41
Dolphins give: Rory Sloane + Dan Jackson + Matt Rosa
Memph to confirm.
Jay wtf? Surely I deserve the decency of a reply if we've been in talks
I thought I did mate? :-X
Nah man I got nothing
Quote from: Ricochet on September 08, 2013, 10:24:17 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 08, 2013, 10:22:19 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 08, 2013, 10:21:41 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 08, 2013, 09:39:56 PM
Strikers give: Steele Sidebotom + Scott Lycett + NAT pick 41
Dolphins give: Rory Sloane + Dan Jackson + Matt Rosa
Memph to confirm.
Jay wtf? Surely I deserve the decency of a reply if we've been in talks
I thought I did mate? :-X
Nah man I got nothing
Oops just saw I sent it to the wrong person. flower >:(
Heaps sorry man, would never purposely do that. But you can understand why I took this deal. Happy to continue talks for JJK?
Quote from: whatlez on September 08, 2013, 01:14:37 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 08, 2013, 01:00:10 PM
Woulda payed alot more for Lynch and Matera. Probs shop around hey?
My exact point. I wouldn't of done Matera for both Hill and Gawn and cw gets Wallis as well. Lol.
Matera only looked so good with his mid time, can't see any more of that happening, the world gone by him....
Ablett, Prestia, O'Meara, Bennell, Swallow, Martin (will).
Matera will be another showery small fwd, i thought i'd get more for gawn but wanted to move before all these guys who trade used all their movements up.
anyone who over rates matera and wants to give me a fwd for him offer away :)
Colli in my recent trades - I received two picks in for players.
Would I now have to involve those exact picks in any future deals (Pick 41+33 in NAT) in this trade period.
Or could I instead involve another of my picks instead of 41 or 33?
Quote from: Memphistopheles on September 08, 2013, 11:33:59 PM
Colli in my recent trades - I received two picks in for players.
Would I now have to involve those exact picks in any future deals (Pick 41+33 in NAT) in this trade period.
Or could I instead involve another of my picks instead of 41 or 33?
no
bit confusing with unequal trades like we had last time.
your list movements used will be 2. (OUT ONLY)
so you can trade any number of any picks in or out they do not count.
BUT you can only trade OUT 3 more players
AND you can trade in 5 more players (as you have traded none in yet)
Quote from: Colliwobblers on September 08, 2013, 11:45:07 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on September 08, 2013, 11:33:59 PM
Colli in my recent trades - I received two picks in for players.
Would I now have to involve those exact picks in any future deals (Pick 41+33 in NAT) in this trade period.
Or could I instead involve another of my picks instead of 41 or 33?
no
bit confusing with unequal trades like we had last time.
your list movements used will be 2. (OUT ONLY)
so you can trade any number of any picks in or out they do not count.
BUT you can only trade OUT 3 more players
AND you can trade in 5 more players (as you have traded none in yet)
Um ok - now you've really confused me.
Have I not traded out 5 players (Sloane, Jackson, Rosa, Edwards, Zaharakis) plus traded in 3 (Rioli, Lycett, Sidebottom) and two picks.
I thought this counted as five list movements - I might have to clarify each time how many LM I have left as I don't seem to quite understand it.
yeah memph sorry i was only talking about the last trade.
seriously guys, Ben Howlett really needs to go, if all goes to plan he is pushed out of our top 6 midfielders and we are looking to trade him to a good home for a forward.
Quote from: KoopKicka on September 09, 2013, 07:30:44 PM
seriously guys, Ben Howlett really needs to go, if all goes to plan he is pushed out of our top 6 midfielders and we are looking to trade him to a good home for a forward.
it's true, 8)
Quote from: KoopKicka on September 08, 2013, 09:38:00 PM
Kathmandu give: Cyril Rioli + Pick 33 NAT
Taiwan give: David Zaharakis + Aaron Edwards
Colli to approve and for Memph to accept again.
Approved
Quote from: Jayman on September 08, 2013, 09:39:56 PM
Strikers give: Steele Sidebotom + Scott Lycett + NAT pick 41
Dolphins give: Rory Sloane + Dan Jackson + Matt Rosa
Memph to confirm.
Approved
Pick list and team lists all updated post all trades processed.
Quote from: KoopKicka on September 09, 2013, 07:30:44 PM
seriously guys, Ben Howlett really needs to go, if all goes to plan he is pushed out of our top 6 midfielders and we are looking to trade him to a good home for a forward.
But he sucks.
Whatlez you didn't comment on my trade :o I thought you like to rant about how unfair every single trade not involving you is? :o
Bangladesh Bears give: Robert Murphy + Hamish McIntosh
Hong Kong Dongs give: Matthew Pavlich + Pick #29 (ND)
Nails/vinny to confirm.
Quote from: Adamant on September 09, 2013, 09:12:46 PM
Bangladesh Bears give: Robert Murphy + Hamish McIntosh
Hong Kong Dongs give: Matthew Pavlich + Pick #24 (ND)
Nails/vinny to confirm.
Confirmed. 8)
Quote from: RidleyU on September 09, 2013, 09:38:25 PM
Quote from: Adamant on September 09, 2013, 09:28:38 PM
Aaaaand another one for tonight. 8)
Bangladesh Bears give: Greg Broughton + Nathan Vardy + Pick #29 (ND)
Bangkok Crabs give: Dean Terlich + Jonathon Griffin
Nost to confirm.
no its not confirmed yet Rids
Not sure if I can confirm but if so...... confirmed
Aaaaand another one for tonight. 8)
Bangladesh Bears give: Greg Broughton + Nathan Vardy + Pick #29 (ND) + Pick #36 (ND)
Bangkok Crabs give: Dean Terlich + Jonathon Griffin + Pick #51 (ND)
Nost to confirm.
EDIT: Just added a sweetener. :P
Quote from: Adamant on September 09, 2013, 09:42:09 PM
Aaaaand another one for tonight. 8)
Bangladesh Bears give: Greg Broughton + Nathan Vardy + Pick #29 (ND) + Pick #36 (ND)
Bangkok Crabs give: Dean Terlich + Jonathon Griffin + Pick #51 (ND)
Nost to confirm.
EDIT: Just added a sweetener. :P
confirmed 8)
Quote from: Jayman on September 09, 2013, 08:55:34 PM
Whatlez you didn't comment on my trade :o I thought you like to rant about how unfair every single trade not involving you is? :o
Meh I couldn't be flowered
Quote from: vinny on September 09, 2013, 09:15:00 PM
Quote from: Adamant on September 09, 2013, 09:12:46 PM
Bangladesh Bears give: Robert Murphy + Hamish McIntosh
Hong Kong Dongs give: Matthew Pavlich + Pick #24 (ND)
Nails/vinny to confirm.
Confirmed. 8)
Approved
Quote from: nostradamus on September 09, 2013, 09:44:31 PM
Quote from: Adamant on September 09, 2013, 09:42:09 PM
Aaaaand another one for tonight. 8)
Bangladesh Bears give: Greg Broughton + Nathan Vardy + Pick #29 (ND) + Pick #36 (ND)
Bangkok Crabs give: Dean Terlich + Jonathon Griffin + Pick #51 (ND)
Nost to confirm.
EDIT: Just added a sweetener. :P
confirmed 8)
Approved
Think trading Matthew Pavlich will probably come back to bite us. But the possibility of what we could get out of it is worth it.
Quote from: Nails on September 10, 2013, 07:29:33 PM
Think trading Matthew Pavlich will probably come back to bite us. But the possibility of what we could get out of it is worth it.
I know that I overpaid in that trade, but I really really wanted Pav. If HMac stays fit you guys win big.
Hopefully he goes down with an ACL during the pre-season...
Jokes. :P
#notjoking
Quote from: Adamant on September 10, 2013, 09:38:16 PM
Quote from: Nails on September 10, 2013, 07:29:33 PM
Think trading Matthew Pavlich will probably come back to bite us. But the possibility of what we could get out of it is worth it.
I know that I overpaid in that trade, but I really really wanted Pav. If HMac stays fit you guys win big.
Hopefully he goes down with an ACL during the pre-season...
Jokes. :P
#notjoking
Haha that's the question. Will he stay fit? :P
The other thing is, he hasn't played in 3 years so I wouldn't say he is completely proven, he may just spud up.
Oh well, hope the risk pays off.
Strikers give: Mitch Clark + Rookie Pick 25
Folders give: Andrew Mackie + NAT Pick 31 + Rookie Pick 15
BB to confirm.
Quote from: Jayman on September 11, 2013, 04:13:16 PM
Strikers give: Mitch Clark + Rookie Pick 25
Folders give: Andrew Mackie + NAT Pick 31 + Rookie Pick 15
BB to confirm.
Confirm
We probably lose a bit with the picks being exchanged, but Mackie will be 29 next year and Clark is 4 years younger. Also want another forward so we are not relying on the smalls to kick lots of goals every week.
If Mitch Clark can stay fit and that foot doesn't riddle him, that's a solid trade.
Quote from: NigeyS on September 11, 2013, 04:29:11 PM
If Mitch Clark can stay fit and that foot doesn't riddle him, that's a solid trade.
Which is a very big if. He was close to retiring because of it...
Can I clarify something please.
In the National draft can we pick any players we like? For example players on the list of players that weren't drafted last season as well as those chosen by AFL clubs in the 2013 National Draft.
So I could, for example, choose Blicavs with my #12 pick if I wanted and he wasn't already taken?
Or do we have to pick players drafted by AFL clubs in the 2013 National Draft and can only take these other players in the Rookie Draft?
Quote from: Jayman on September 11, 2013, 04:30:21 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 11, 2013, 04:29:11 PM
If Mitch Clark can stay fit and that foot doesn't riddle him, that's a solid trade.
Which is a very big if. He was close to retiring because of it...
Yep, I agree. The more I think about it, I would probably rather rely on small forwards to kick goals than Mitch Clark being fit. He's played what? 15 games in 2 seasons? Like I said though, if he stays fit, great trade.
Quote from: Memphistopheles on September 11, 2013, 04:42:49 PM
Can I clarify something please.
In the National draft can we pick any players we like? For example players on the list of players that weren't drafted last season as well as those chosen by AFL clubs in the 2013 National Draft.
So I could, for example, choose Blicavs with my #12 pick if I wanted and he wasn't already taken?
Or do we have to pick players drafted by AFL clubs in the 2013 National Draft and can only take these other players in the Rookie Draft?
Blicavs and players who weren't drafted to AXVs clubs go into the rookie draft.
Quote from: Memphistopheles on September 11, 2013, 04:42:49 PM
Can I clarify something please.
In the National draft can we pick any players we like? For example players on the list of players that weren't drafted last season as well as those chosen by AFL clubs in the 2013 National Draft.
So I could, for example, choose Blicavs with my #12 pick if I wanted and he wasn't already taken?
Or do we have to pick players drafted by AFL clubs in the 2013 National Draft and can only take these other players in the Rookie Draft?
NO
AXVS Nat Draft = players picked in the AFL Nat draft ONLY.
AXVS Rook/PreSeason Draft =
1. Picks that can go on your senior OR rookie list.
- remaining players unpicked from last seasons pool.
- delisted players from axvs clubs still afl listed.
- unpicked AFL national draft pick players.
2. Picks that have to go on your rookie list, cannot go on your senior list.
- AFL rookie drafted players.
AND TO PROMOTE A ROOKIE OFF YOUR ROOKIE LIST YOU WILL NEED TO USE ONE OF YOUR NAT DRAFT PICKS.
TO USE ALL NAT PICKS YOU HAVE YOU WILL HAVE TO DELIST ENOUGH PLAYERS FROM YOUR SENIOR LIST TO FIT THE PLAYERS IN YOU PICK
TO USE ALL ROOKIE/PRESEASON PICKS YOU HAVE YOU WILL HAVE TO DELIST ENOUGH PLAYERS FROM YOUR SENIOR ND OR ROOKIE LIST TO FIT THE PLAYERS IN YOU PICK.
So AFL rookie drafted players have to go on your rookie list? What if you have extra spots still left open on your senior list?
Quote from: BB67th on September 11, 2013, 04:55:03 PM
So AFL rookie drafted players have to go on your rookie list? What if you have extra spots still left open on your senior list?
you will have to draft preseason drafted players, remaining players from the nat draft, unpicked players from last season.
there are plenty of options.
if anything there will be a shortage of rookie picks to go around not the other way around.
must remain true to the AFL.
nat picks get picked in the nat draft go on your senior list.
preseason picks go on either list
rookie picks go on the rookie list.
Ok this changes things somewhat. I was under the assumption we could pick anyone in the NAT draft.
Rookie picks are more valuable than I thought.
Some more big trades going down in Dolphins HQ.
Steele Sidebottom who just arrived is on the move again, this time to Kuala Lumpur.
Crocodiles give: Harley Bennell + Zac Tuohy + NAT 21
Dolphins give: Sidebottom + NAT 44.
I believe this trade should be fine for list movements (we still have two INs plus Sidey was one of those IN's so that cancels out one of the In's anyway doesn't it? Also he's being on-traded).
Quote from: Memphistopheles on September 11, 2013, 06:59:22 PM
Some more big trades going down in Dolphins HQ.
Steele Sidebottom who just arrived is on the move again, this time to Kuala Lumpur.
Crocodiles give: Harley Bennell + Zac Tuohy + NAT 21
Dolphins give: Sidebottom + NAT 44.
I believe this trade should be fine for list movements (we still have two INs plus Sidey was one of those IN's so that cancels out one of the In's anyway doesn't it? Also he's being on-traded).
Confirm
Sidey 8)
Wow big trade there! KL's midfield is starting to look deadly :o :-X
Quote from: Memphistopheles on September 11, 2013, 06:59:22 PM
Some more big trades going down in Dolphins HQ.
Steele Sidebottom who just arrived is on the move again, this time to Kuala Lumpur.
Crocodiles give: Harley Bennell + Zac Tuohy + NAT 21
Dolphins give: Sidebottom + NAT 44.
I believe this trade should be fine for list movements (we still have two INs plus Sidey was one of those IN's so that cancels out one of the In's anyway doesn't it? Also he's being on-traded).
no this counts as ( 2 in ) and ( 0 out)
2 new players in
0 "more" original players out - as sidey was not part of your original list.
original = list pre this trade period.
you can continue to trade out players you have traded in for different players.
but you can only have 5 changes to your list.
so if you trade out red and in green that is a list movement
then if you trade out green and in blue that is not.
not is then doing blue out and black in.
the list change is still only one player - RED OUT - BLACK IN.
make sense....
I think so.
Still should be good right as I had 2 (in) and 0 (out) remaining.
Quote from: Memphistopheles on September 11, 2013, 11:52:35 PM
I think so.
Still should be good right as I had 2 (in) and 0 (out) remaining.
yep your good, i'll update process and post tomorrow - too much work (job work)
trade will pass
dolphins may win slightly if bennell kicks on but great "right now" trade for the crocs, smart trade from them.
Quote from: BB67th on September 11, 2013, 04:18:32 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 11, 2013, 04:13:16 PM
Strikers give: Mitch Clark + Rookie Pick 25
Folders give: Andrew Mackie + NAT Pick 31 + Rookie Pick 15
BB to confirm.
Confirm
We probably lose a bit with the picks being exchanged, but Mackie will be 29 next year and Clark is 4 years younger. Also want another forward so we are not relying on the smalls to kick lots of goals every week.
Approved
Quote from: Ricochet on September 11, 2013, 07:00:48 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on September 11, 2013, 06:59:22 PM
Some more big trades going down in Dolphins HQ.
Steele Sidebottom who just arrived is on the move again, this time to Kuala Lumpur.
Crocodiles give: Harley Bennell + Zac Tuohy + NAT 21
Dolphins give: Sidebottom + NAT 44.
I believe this trade should be fine for list movements (we still have two INs plus Sidey was one of those IN's so that cancels out one of the In's anyway doesn't it? Also he's being on-traded).
Confirm
Approved
Kuala Lumpur give: Nat 5 + Rook 5 + Davis
Bangkok give: Darling + Nat 29
Quote from: Ricochet on September 13, 2013, 02:20:05 PM
Kuala Lumpur give: Nat 5 + Rook 5 + Davis
Bangkok give: Darling + Nat 29
Confirmed 8)
Jack Darling - The Next Buddy, Cloke and Brown rolled into one.
(http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2011/03/07/1226017/145665-jack-darling.jpg)
He's big, he's a gun
He kicks big bags for fun
Jack Darling, Jack Darling
Quote from: nostradamus on September 13, 2013, 02:21:18 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 13, 2013, 02:20:05 PM
Kuala Lumpur give: Nat 5 + Rook 5 + Davis
Bangkok give: Darling + Nat 29
Confirmed 8)
Phil Davis? Luke Davis? Troy Davis?
Quote from: elephants on September 13, 2013, 02:26:29 PM
Jack Darling - The Next Buddy, Cloke and Brown rolled into one.
(http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2011/03/07/1226017/145665-jack-darling.jpg)
He's big, he's a gun
He kicks big bags for fun
Jack Darling, Jack Darling
Approved? Aww yeah!
In which case, I reiterate. Watch out for KL boys ;)
pretty easy to approve
Darling = pick 5 nat + pick 5 rook
Davis = pick 29 give or take
not exactly even but far from extremely uneven no?
Yeah I think its fair but of course I'm bias :P You just gotta look how easily the trade came about though. Think there were about 6 or so PMs between Rico/Nostra/Rids and then me at the end and boom the trade was easily nailed.
Quote from: elephants on September 13, 2013, 08:17:24 PM
Yeah I think its fair but of course I'm bias :P You just gotta look how easily the trade came about though. Think there were about 6 or so PMs between Rico/Nostra/Rids and then me at the end and boom the trade was easily nailed.
Good to see you up and about in the AXVS :)
Tigers give: Mark Baguley + Picks 17ND, 23ND,49ND
Gazelles give: Robbie Gray + Picks 26ND, 58RD, 74RD
Noz to confirm
Quote from: JROO8 on September 15, 2013, 07:07:36 PM
Tigers give: Mark Baguley + Picks 17ND, 23ND,49ND
Gazelles give: Robbie Gray + Picks 26ND, 58RD, 74RD
Noz to confirm
Confirm
Quote from: Noz on September 15, 2013, 08:10:24 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on September 15, 2013, 07:07:36 PM
Tigers give: Mark Baguley + Picks 17ND, 23ND,49ND
Gazelles give: Robbie Gray + Picks 26ND, 58RD, 74RD
Noz to confirm
Confirm
Approved - reasoning below in trade list as usual.
Sam Col looked good late. Anyone keen?
Dylan Shiel another.
Tigers give: Lee Spurr + Pick 26ND
Head Hunters give: David Armitage + Pick 43ND
Tabs to confirm.
Quote from: JROO8 on September 17, 2013, 02:16:54 PM
Tigers give: Lee Spurr + Pick 26ND
Head Hunters give: David Armitage + Pick 43ND
Tabs to confirm.
tabs confirms
Heppell will lose DPP and become a mid so i need a back
Maniila give: Tom Bell + Pick 47ND
Head Hunters gibe: Josh Walker + Pick 26ND
tabs to confirm
Quote from: BB67th on September 17, 2013, 05:24:05 PM
Maniila give: Tom Bell + Pick 47ND
Head Hunters gibe: Josh Walker + Pick 26ND
tabs to confirm
tabs confirming
Quote from: tabs on September 17, 2013, 03:14:45 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on September 17, 2013, 02:16:54 PM
Tigers give: Lee Spurr + Pick 26ND
Head Hunters give: David Armitage + Pick 43ND
Tabs to confirm.
tabs confirms
Heppell will lose DPP and become a mid so i need a back
APPROVED
Quote from: tabs on September 17, 2013, 05:36:03 PM
Quote from: BB67th on September 17, 2013, 05:24:05 PM
Maniila give: Tom Bell + Pick 47ND
Head Hunters gibe: Josh Walker + Pick 26ND
tabs to confirm
tabs confirming
APPROVED
Tigers give: Pick 43ND
Ales give: Matt Dick
JB to confirm.
Confirmed
Tigers give: Troy Menzel + Matt Dick
Vipers give: Shannon Hurn
Colli to confirm
Confirmed
Tigers give: Issac Smith + Picks 7 Rookie + 74 Rookie
Crocodiles give: Tom Bellchambers + Picks 37ND + 44ND + 21 Rookie
Ricochet to confirm.
Quote from: JROO8 on September 27, 2013, 09:16:05 PM
Tigers give: Issac Smith + Picks 7 Rookie + 74 Rookie
Crocodiles give: Tom Bellchambers + Picks 37ND + 44ND + 21 Rookie
Ricochet to confirm.
I Confirm.
Huzzah! 8)
So you send me a PM about Isaac Smith. Didn't reply quickly as I am on holidays but now you trade him like a day later :-X
Poor form.
Quote from: Jayman on September 28, 2013, 09:39:45 AM
So you send me a PM about Isaac Smith. Didn't reply quickly as I am on holidays but now you trade him like a day later :-X
Poor form.
Hes copping a tag now anyway, bye bye fantasy relevance ;)
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 28, 2013, 09:53:24 AM
Quote from: Jayman on September 28, 2013, 09:39:45 AM
So you send me a PM about Isaac Smith. Didn't reply quickly as I am on holidays but now you trade him like a day later :-X
Poor form.
Hes copping a tag now anyway, bye bye fantasy relevance ;)
Yeo, that's why Nails and I weren't too keen,
Quote from: Jayman on September 28, 2013, 09:39:45 AM
So you send me a PM about Isaac Smith. Didn't reply quickly as I am on holidays but now you trade him like a day later :-X
Poor form.
Well you didn't respond so how would I know you were actually interested. Sorry I didn't realize you were on holidays.
ill process these trades soon.
Quote from: JROO8 on September 25, 2013, 07:15:12 PM
Tigers give: Pick 43ND
Ales give: Matt Dick
JB to confirm.
CANCELLED - pendling JB
Quote from: JROO8 on September 25, 2013, 07:46:43 PM
Tigers give: Troy Menzel + Matt Dick
Vipers give: Shannon Hurn
Colli to confirm
DECLINEDVipers do not have the list movements.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on September 28, 2013, 11:57:45 AM
Quote from: JROO8 on September 25, 2013, 07:15:12 PM
Tigers give: Pick 43ND
Ales give: Matt Dick
JB to confirm.
APPROVED - pending review from coaches involved
Sorry JB, but I'll have to cancel it as I only needed Matt Dick for the trade with Colli.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on September 28, 2013, 11:58:16 AM
Quote from: JROO8 on September 25, 2013, 07:46:43 PM
Tigers give: Troy Menzel + Matt Dick
Vipers give: Shannon Hurn
Colli to confirm
DECLINED
Vipers do not have the list movements.
Okay here's the new trade:
Tigers give: Menzel + Pick 37ND
Vipers give: Shannon Hurn
Colli to confirm.
confirmed
Quote from: Ricochet on September 27, 2013, 09:17:54 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on September 27, 2013, 09:16:05 PM
Tigers give: Issac Smith + Picks 7 Rookie + 74 Rookie
Crocodiles give: Tom Bellchambers + Picks 37ND + 44ND + 21 Rookie
Ricochet to confirm.
I Confirm.
APPROVED
Quote from: JROO8 on September 28, 2013, 12:43:16 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on September 28, 2013, 11:58:16 AM
Quote from: JROO8 on September 25, 2013, 07:46:43 PM
Tigers give: Troy Menzel + Matt Dick
Vipers give: Shannon Hurn
Colli to confirm
DECLINED
Vipers do not have the list movements.
Okay here's the new trade:
Tigers give: Menzel + Pick 37ND
Vipers give: Shannon Hurn
Colli to confirm.
APPROVED
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 28, 2013, 09:53:24 AM
Quote from: Jayman on September 28, 2013, 09:39:45 AM
So you send me a PM about Isaac Smith. Didn't reply quickly as I am on holidays but now you trade him like a day later :-X
Poor form.
Hes copping a tag now anyway, bye bye fantasy relevance ;)
Average of 130 in the second half of the season seems pretty fantasy relevant to me! ;)
Vipers in a position to NOT need draft picks, struggling to find a player to delist....
I have the following picks for clubs needing to draft deep which we do not need to.
Looking for a high national OR rookie pick in return prepared to give the following for one higher nat or rook pick, may even prefer high rook pick if that appeals.
Nat #32
Nat #37
Nat #52
Rook #36
Rook #52
will consider any offers.
Quote from: elephants on September 28, 2013, 01:14:35 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 28, 2013, 09:53:24 AM
Quote from: Jayman on September 28, 2013, 09:39:45 AM
So you send me a PM about Isaac Smith. Didn't reply quickly as I am on holidays but now you trade him like a day later :-X
Poor form.
Hes copping a tag now anyway, bye bye fantasy relevance ;)
Average of 130 in the second half of the season seems pretty fantasy relevant to me! ;)
And how much does he average with a tag?
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 29, 2013, 06:09:10 AM
Quote from: elephants on September 28, 2013, 01:14:35 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 28, 2013, 09:53:24 AM
Quote from: Jayman on September 28, 2013, 09:39:45 AM
So you send me a PM about Isaac Smith. Didn't reply quickly as I am on holidays but now you trade him like a day later :-X
Poor form.
Hes copping a tag now anyway, bye bye fantasy relevance ;)
Average of 130 in the second half of the season seems pretty fantasy relevant to me! ;)
And how much does he average with a tag?
flowered if I know but I'd assume he got tagged on occasion in the second half of the season..
Manila has picks 31, 47, 63 and 79 in the rookie draft. We are definitely not going to be using all of these. If anyone would like a package of a couple together in return for a pick that is a little higher or a late NAT Pick (don't really care how much higher, just as long as it is) shoot us a pm.
Some pick swapping with the Vipers as we'll be drafting plenty so want more picks.
Taiwan gives NAT Pick #21
Vipers give NAT Picks #32 + #37 and Rookie Pick #36.
Colli to confirm.
expect a big trade coming through soon!
Dont trades need to be even?
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 01, 2013, 06:46:34 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 01, 2013, 06:45:58 PM
Dont trades need to be even?
nope :)
no is correct the voting was very one sided on that question.
think the trade above is well balanced and serves both teams needs.
clubs/coaches need to look at what they are planning in delistings and drafting and make similar moves i strongly suggest.
some of us will have picks to throw away others will not have enough.....
Quote from: Memphistopheles on October 01, 2013, 06:44:01 PM
Some pick swapping with the Vipers as we'll be drafting plenty so want more picks.
Taiwan gives NAT Pick #21
Vipers give NAT Picks #32 + #37 and Rookie Pick #36.
Colli to confirm.
Confirmed
Its a complicated beast this one
This trade period:
Kathmandu give: Pick 7 NAT + Pick 39 NAT
Tibet give: Andrew Gaff + Pick 46 NAT
Next trade period:
Kathamndu give: Jake Neade and Steven May
Tibet give: Jack Hombsch
So the deal overall is
Kathmandu Give: Jake Neade, Steven May, Pick 6 NAT, Pick 39 NAT
Tibet Give: Andrew Gaff, Jack Hombsch, Pick 46 NAT
either tbag or Nige to confirm,
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 01, 2013, 06:59:57 PM
Its a complicated beast this one
This trade period:
Kathmandu give: Pick 7 NAT + Pick 39 NAT
Tibet give: Andrew Gaff + Pick 46 NAT
Next trade period:
Kathamndu give: Jake Neade and Steven May
Tibet give: Jack Hombsch
So the deal overall is
Kathmandu Give: Jake Neade, Steven May, Pick 6 NAT, Pick 39 NAT
Tibet Give: Andrew Gaff, Jack Hombsch, Pick 46 NAT
either tbag or Nige to confirm,
Confirm but, wouldn't a player need to be given this period for trade to be considered fair?
Are you even allowed to trade across periods?
Surely not.
That opens up a whole another can of worms #LetsGetBusy
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 01, 2013, 06:59:57 PM
Its a complicated beast this one
This trade period:
Kathmandu give: Pick 7 NAT + Pick 39 NAT
Tibet give: Andrew Gaff + Pick 46 NAT
Next trade period:
Kathamndu give: Jake Neade and Steven May
Tibet give: Jack Hombsch
So the deal overall is
Kathmandu Give: Jake Neade, Steven May, Pick 6 NAT, Pick 39 NAT
Tibet Give: Andrew Gaff, Jack Hombsch, Pick 46 NAT
either tbag or Nige to confirm,
this trade will not work
UNLESS
you have another trade lined up which balances out your players in trade period #2
point 1. you need to fill both your lists back up to FULL during both our drafts.
point 2. trade period #2 is after the drafts so if you trade 2 players for one, one team will have one player too many and the other team will have one player too few.
THE SOLUTION - you must trade even numbers of players ONLY in trade period #2, so you will need to both agree to a trade for trade period #2 of just one player for one player. And trade the extra player in this trade for period #1.
this does not change the trade at all overall, but what it DOES do is change the make up of your lists PRE-DRAFT which in turn effects how many picks you can/need to make.
hope this all makes sense. revise what you both want to do and let me know :)
Quote from: Memphistopheles on October 01, 2013, 07:06:15 PM
Are you even allowed to trade across periods?
Surely not.
That opens up a whole another can of worms #LetsGetBusy
you can "propose and agree to a trade for trade period #2" if you do you can submit it so I can rule on it and both clubs then know it is a done deal.
if you submit it it cannot be undone, but also will not be approved or any list changes counted or made until trade period #2 is open.
this was done in our last trade periods before this season, mainly to balance trades done in period #1 that would not have passed otherwise. And also to lock away deals for the next trade period.
Any questions let me know.
First Period:
Tibet Give: 46
Kathmandu give: 39 + 7
Second Period:
Tibet Give: Jack Hombsch + Andrew Gaff
Kathmandu Give: Jake Neade + Steven May
its the same deal, as one, but structured so tbag gets his picks before the draft.
Nige or tbag to confirm.
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 01, 2013, 08:09:46 PM
First Period:
Tibet Give: 46
Kathmandu give: 39 + 7
Second Period:
Tibet Give: Jack Hombsch + Andrew Gaff
Kathmandu Give: Jake Neade + Steven May
its the same deal, as one, but structured so tbag gets his picks before the draft.
Nige or tbag to confirm.
Nigs don't confirm till I say it's all good ;)
Anyway, confirm
hey guys, I will be away for 12 days as of tomorrow morning, any trade enquiries please forward to specky92 as he has permission to trade.
JROO - He will table an offer as soon as he has thought it through.
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 01, 2013, 09:27:59 PM
hey guys, I will be away for 12 days as of tomorrow morning, any trade enquiries please forward to specky92 as he has permission to trade.
JROO - He will table an offer as soon as he has thought it through.
Okay cool, thanks for the update :)
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 01, 2013, 08:09:46 PM
First Period:
Tibet Give: 46
Kathmandu give: 39 + 7
Second Period:
Tibet Give: Jack Hombsch + Andrew Gaff
Kathmandu Give: Jake Neade + Steven May
its the same deal, as one, but structured so tbag gets his picks before the draft.
Nige or tbag to confirm.
So Neade+May+NAT #7+NAT #39 for NAT #46 + Gaff + Hombsch.
Hmmm......Appears quite one-sided to me.
Quote from: JROO8 on October 01, 2013, 09:29:34 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 01, 2013, 09:27:59 PM
hey guys, I will be away for 12 days as of tomorrow morning, any trade enquiries please forward to specky92 as he has permission to trade.
JROO - He will table an offer as soon as he has thought it through.
Okay cool, thanks for the update :)
woah what am I doing now?
Quote from: specky92 on October 01, 2013, 10:52:04 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 01, 2013, 09:29:34 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 01, 2013, 09:27:59 PM
hey guys, I will be away for 12 days as of tomorrow morning, any trade enquiries please forward to specky92 as he has permission to trade.
JROO - He will table an offer as soon as he has thought it through.
Okay cool, thanks for the update :)
woah what am I doing now?
You're acting Eskimos coach until Coop is back.
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Quote from: Memphistopheles on October 01, 2013, 10:30:20 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 01, 2013, 08:09:46 PM
First Period:
Tibet Give: 46
Kathmandu give: 39 + 7
Second Period:
Tibet Give: Jack Hombsch + Andrew Gaff
Kathmandu Give: Jake Neade + Steven May
its the same deal, as one, but structured so tbag gets his picks before the draft.
Nige or tbag to confirm.
So Neade+May+NAT #7+NAT #39 for NAT #46 + Gaff + Hombsch.
Hmmm......Appears quite one-sided to me.
Tbag has a thing for trading away his best players. I hear Dangerfield is next :P
Or
Haven't I been doing that since I joined the club 8) (smug face could not be found)
Quote from: specky92 on October 01, 2013, 11:04:47 PM
Or
Haven't I been doing that since I joined the club 8) (smug face could not be found)
This is appropriate.
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Quote from: NigeyS on October 01, 2013, 11:08:34 PM
Quote from: specky92 on October 01, 2013, 11:04:47 PM
Or
Haven't I been doing that since I joined the club 8) (smug face could not be found)
This is appropriate.
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mde5awWBdc1r1gapro1_400.gif)
your talent of finding images/gifts on the Internet is horrifyingly beautiful, well done sir, :P
Quote from: specky92 on October 01, 2013, 11:10:54 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 01, 2013, 11:08:34 PM
Quote from: specky92 on October 01, 2013, 11:04:47 PM
Or
Haven't I been doing that since I joined the club 8) (smug face could not be found)
This is appropriate.
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mde5awWBdc1r1gapro1_400.gif)
your talent of finding images/gifts on the Internet is horrifyingly beautiful, well done sir, :P
I can teach you my ways if you have the desire to learn from the greatest. I don't charge either, you just need to have the mind.
Huge win for the Eskikoes there. Poor Llamas :(
Is my huge Cotchin offer still in consideration?
Three-way trade between the Bears, Crocs and Dolphins.
This Period
Bangladesh Bears give: Rookie #16
Kuala Lumpur Crocodiles give: Daniel Rich + Nat #29 + Nat #53
Taiwan Dolphins give: Jordan Lewis + Zach Tuohy
Bangladesh Bears get:
Kuala Lumpur Crocodiles get: Jordan Lewis + Zach Tuohy
Taiwan Dolphins get: Daniel Rich + Nat #29 + Nat #53 + Rookie #16
Next Period
Bangladesh Bears give: Dean Terlich
Taiwan Dolphins give: Jed Adcock
Rico and Memph to confirm.
Confirm
Yep confirmed
Am i reading correctly
Lewis, Tuohy, Adcock for Rich and some mediocre picks? :O
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 04, 2013, 06:48:37 PM
Am i reading correctly
Lewis, Tuohy, Adcock for Rich and some mediocre picks? :O
*Rich and Terlich.
Tuohy is only a 70 averaging back...
He's only in this to add a list movement
Quote from: Adamant on October 04, 2013, 06:51:13 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 04, 2013, 06:48:37 PM
Am i reading correctly
Lewis, Tuohy, Adcock for Rich and some mediocre picks? :O
*Rich and Terlich.
Ah that makes a bit more sense
Quote from: Adamant on October 04, 2013, 06:31:14 PM
Three-way trade between the Bears, Crocs and Dolphins.
This Period
Bangladesh Bears give: Rookie #16
Kuala Lumpur Crocodiles give: Daniel Rich + Nat #26 + Nat #53
Taiwan Dolphins give: Jordan Lewis + Zach Tuohy
Bangladesh Bears get:
Kuala Lumpur Crocodiles get: Jordan Lewis + Zach Tuohy
Taiwan Dolphins get: Daniel Rich + Nat #26 + Nat #53 + Rookie #16
Next Period
Bangladesh Bears give: Dean Terlich
Taiwan Dolphins give: Jed Adcock
Rico and Memph to confirm.
How can the Dolphins do that, they don't have any list movements?
I only knew because I was keen on Lewis myself :-X
Because Memph is trading Tuohy back to Rico, which means he gets a list movement back.
Quote from: Adamant on October 04, 2013, 07:12:52 PM
Because Memph is trading Tuohy back to Rico, which means he gets a list movement back.
Oh, I didn't realize you could do that. Seems to be all good then.
So Bears give rookie 16 and get Adcock?
Quote from: whatlez on October 04, 2013, 07:37:18 PM
So Bears give rookie 16 and get Adcock?
Rookie 16 + Terlich
Quote from: Adamant on October 04, 2013, 07:12:52 PM
Because Memph is trading Tuohy back to Rico, which means he gets a list movement back.
Wouldn't that mean that it just counts as 0 list movements, not getting one back?
Because it has gone like this
Memph trades: Player A
Memph gets: Tuohy
Memph trades: Tuohy
Memph gets: Player C
So technically one list movement is used in total so that means that instead of getting a movement back, you just use none for that part of the trade?
Unless by gaining one back that is what you mean. If any of that makes sense at all :-X
Quote from: BB67th on October 04, 2013, 07:46:48 PM
Quote from: Adamant on October 04, 2013, 07:12:52 PM
Because Memph is trading Tuohy back to Rico, which means he gets a list movement back.
Wouldn't that mean that it just counts as 0 list movements, not getting one back?
Because it has gone like this
Memph trades: Player A
Memph gets: Tuohy
Memph trades: Tuohy
Memph gets: Player C
So technically one list movement is used in total so that means that instead of getting a movement back, you just use none for that part of the trade?
Unless by gaining one back that is what you mean. If any of that makes sense at all :-X
Yeah spot on. So because Rico and Memph made this trade:
Crocodiles give: Harley Bennell + Zac Tuohy + NAT 21
Dolphins give: Sidebottom + NAT 44.
Memph giving Tuohy back means he gains the list movement back. So technically it counts as 0 list movements.
ada is correct, will have a look at the trade soon. some new coaches post the trade periods last season, so we might have to look at the rule of doing these over two period trades next season, but we did it last season and we didn't vote to change it this season so it can happen until we change it.
will catch up on any outstanding trades this weekend.
Out of interest Colli, when will the second trade period be opened up? Is it after we have finished the rookie draft?
Quote from: Adamant on October 04, 2013, 08:02:22 PM
Out of interest Colli, when will the second trade period be opened up? Is it after we have finished the rookie draft?
yes straight after
Quote from: Colliwobblers on October 04, 2013, 08:08:53 PM
Quote from: Adamant on October 04, 2013, 08:02:22 PM
Out of interest Colli, when will the second trade period be opened up? Is it after we have finished the rookie draft?
yes straight after
Ok sweet.
Ah ok, that all makes sense with the trades then. :)
Quote from: Colliwobblers on October 01, 2013, 06:49:33 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on October 01, 2013, 06:44:01 PM
Some pick swapping with the Vipers as we'll be drafting plenty so want more picks.
Taiwan gives NAT Pick #21
Vipers give NAT Picks #32 + #37 and Rookie Pick #36.
Colli to confirm.
Confirmed
APPROVED
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 01, 2013, 08:11:44 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 01, 2013, 08:09:46 PM
First Period:
Tibet Give: 46
Kathmandu give: 39 + 7
Second Period:
Tibet Give: Jack Hombsch + Andrew Gaff
Kathmandu Give: Jake Neade + Steven May
its the same deal, as one, but structured so tbag gets his picks before the draft.
Nige or tbag to confirm.
Nigs don't confirm till I say it's all good ;)
Anyway, confirm
APPROVED - NOTE: Players allocated for period #2 trade cannot be traded now or delisted and the trade for period #2 cannot be cancelled.This one drew some comments - Rationale under trade #20 in the list, even enough overall i think - certainly not massively uneven, pick #7 carries a lot of value as does Gaff, Hombsch is a key DEF, May a key FWD.
Quote from: Adamant on October 04, 2013, 06:31:14 PM
Three-way trade between the Bears, Crocs and Dolphins.
This Period
Bangladesh Bears give: Rookie #16
Kuala Lumpur Crocodiles give: Daniel Rich + Nat #29 + Nat #53
Taiwan Dolphins give: Jordan Lewis + Zach Tuohy
Bangladesh Bears get:
Kuala Lumpur Crocodiles get: Jordan Lewis + Zach Tuohy
Taiwan Dolphins get: Daniel Rich + Nat #29 + Nat #53 + Rookie #16
Next Period
Bangladesh Bears give: Dean Terlich
Taiwan Dolphins give: Jed Adcock
Bangladesh Bears get: Jed Adcock
Taiwan Dolphins get: Dean Terlich
Rico and Memph to confirm.
APPROVED - NOTE: Players allocated for period #2 trade cannot be traded now or delisted and the trade for period #2 cannot be cancelled.
Yewww! Welcome Mr Lewis 8)
Tigers give: Farren Ray + 71ND
Headhunters give: Tom Bugg + 47ND
Tabs to confirm
Quote from: JROO8 on October 11, 2013, 12:05:14 AM
Tigers give: Farren Ray + 71ND
Headhunters give: Tom Bugg + 47ND
Tabs to confirm
tabs confirming
Tigers give Tomas Bugg + Picks Rookie 21, 44ND, 47ND
Tigers get Nick Vlastuin + 41ND
Dolphins give Nick Vlastuin + Picks 29ND, 37ND, 41ND
Dolphins get Tomas Bugg + Matt Rosa + Picks 21 Rookie, 44ND
Strikers give Matt Rosa
Strikers get Picks 29ND, 37ND, 47ND
Memphis and Jay to confirm.
confirm.
Confirm.
Australia Give: Danyle Pearce + Jarryd Blair + Rookie 40
PNG Give: David Swallow + Nat 27 + Rookie 27
Tabs to confirm.
Go PNG
Quote from: whatlez on October 14, 2013, 08:19:03 PM
Go PNG
Yeah, looks a good deal for them! Really not sure on Swallow's scoring potential tbh.
Well hes one of my favs, I got the faith in him :P
Swallow will probably be a defender next year, and given that he is 6 years younger than Pearce I think it's a pretty even trade.
Although Swallow was tipped to go big this year and hasn't done much at all. His scoring potential may be overrated, but only 20yo so has a lot of time.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 14, 2013, 06:35:04 PM
Australia Give: Danyle Pearce + Jarryd Blair + Rookie 40
PNG Give: David Swallow + Nat 27 + Rookie 27
Tabs to confirm.
tabs confirming
If anyway wants to sell one of their gun mids or gyn forward I can offer Dylan Shiel, Ollie Wines, Sam Colquon and pick 6.
Message me if you want a few young guns for one of your jets lol
Quote from: whatlez on October 15, 2013, 10:57:19 AM
If anyway wants to sell one of their gun mids or gyn forward I can offer Dylan Shiel, Ollie Wines, Sam Colquon and pick 6.
Message me if you want a few young guns for one of your jets lol
rejected ;D
OVERALL TRADE
Strikers give: Jamie Elliott + Sam Gibson + NAT31 + ROK15
HeadHunters give: Callan Ward + Matt De Boer + NAT47 + ROK40
THIS PERIOD
Strikers give: Jamie Elliott + NAT31 + ROK15
HeadHunters give: Callan Ward + NAT47 + ROK40
NEXT PERIOD
Strikers give: Sam Gibson
HeadHunters give: Matt De Boer
We feel that Ward gets the edge over Gibson but Gibson will be a gun! Elliot has huge potential and De Boer is prone to fwd tagging roles, that limits his value. The trade is further balanced out by pick swaps and needs to be split over the 2 periods to accommodate list movements :)
Tabs to confirm.
Nice work Jay ;)
Quote from: Jayman on October 18, 2013, 05:01:26 PM
OVERALL TRADE
Strikers give: Jamie Elliott + Sam Gibson + NAT31 + ROK15
HeadHunters give: Callan Ward + Matt De Boer + NAT47 + ROK40
THIS PERIOD
Strikers give: Jamie Elliott + NAT31 + ROK15
HeadHunters give: Callan Ward + NAT47 + ROK40
NEXT PERIOD
Strikers give: Sam Gibson
HeadHunters give: Matt De Boer
We feel that Ward gets the edge over Gibson but Gibson will be a gun! Elliot has huge potential and De Boer is prone to fwd tagging roles, that limits his value. The trade is further balanced out by pick swaps and needs to be split over the 2 periods to accommodate list movements :)
Tabs to confirm.
tabs confirming ;)
will process all these tonight. been slack
Quote from: Colliwobblers on October 18, 2013, 07:05:44 PM
will process all these tonight. been slack
Take your time Colli. There is no rush :)
Strikers have 2 trades pending I think :o
I reckon the Strikers had a good win
Just FYI, Sam Gibsons age on FF is wrong, he was actually born in 1986 and is currently 27 ;)
Quote from: tabs on October 11, 2013, 12:54:48 AM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 11, 2013, 12:05:14 AM
Tigers give: Farren Ray + 71ND
Headhunters give: Tom Bugg + 47ND
Tabs to confirm
tabs confirming
APPROVED
Quote from: tabs on October 14, 2013, 10:45:06 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 14, 2013, 06:35:04 PM
Australia Give: Danyle Pearce + Jarryd Blair + Rookie 40
PNG Give: David Swallow + Nat 27 + Rookie 27
Tabs to confirm.
tabs confirming
APPROVED
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 18, 2013, 07:50:29 PM
Just FYI, Sam Gibsons age on FF is wrong, he was actually born in 1986 and is currently 27 ;)
We got nailed by this last year :P
Quote from: JROO8 on October 13, 2013, 08:08:29 PM
Tigers give Tomas Bugg + Picks Rookie 21, 44ND, 47ND
Tigers get Nick Vlastuin + 41ND
Dolphins give Nick Vlastuin + Picks 29ND, 37ND, 41ND
Dolphins get Tomas Bugg + Matt Rosa + Picks 21 Rookie, 44ND
Strikers give Matt Rosa
Strikers get Picks 29ND, 37ND, 47ND
Memphis and Jay to confirm.
DECLINED - Dolphins do not have the list movements to trade out Vlastuin.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on October 18, 2013, 08:45:29 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 13, 2013, 08:08:29 PM
Tigers give Tomas Bugg + Picks Rookie 21, 44ND, 47ND
Tigers get Nick Vlastuin + 41ND
Dolphins give Nick Vlastuin + Picks 29ND, 37ND, 41ND
Dolphins get Tomas Bugg + Matt Rosa + Picks 21 Rookie, 44ND
Strikers give Matt Rosa
Strikers get Picks 29ND, 37ND, 47ND
Memphis and Jay to confirm.
DECLINED - Dolphins do not have the list movements to trade out Vlastuin.
Haha damn.
They get a list movement by trading back in Matt Rosa, so they can do it can't they, or am I wrong?
Should just make it 5 out going movements like bxv/exv. As many incomings as you like ;)
This whole thing is too much lol.
How did my trade with tabs go? What needs to happen?
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 18, 2013, 08:57:55 PM
Should just make it 5 out going movements like bxv/exv. As many incomings as you like ;)
that is not really achieving a limit on list changes tho is it?
it is pretty easy to stick to 5 in 5 out, i need to pay more attention, i just trust people know how many list movements they have and count them down, missed one for the dolphins with all the talk of them getting one back, which they did IN but which they did not OUT.
hence the error.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on October 18, 2013, 09:03:10 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 18, 2013, 08:57:55 PM
Should just make it 5 out going movements like bxv/exv. As many incomings as you like ;)
that is not really achieving a limit on list changes tho is it?
Sure it is, if they trade draft picks for players its just like drafting a player in the Nat, Both methods bring new players to the club.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on October 05, 2013, 05:08:42 PM
Quote from: Adamant on October 04, 2013, 06:31:14 PM
Three-way trade between the Bears, Crocs and Dolphins.
This Period
Bangladesh Bears give: Rookie #16
Kuala Lumpur Crocodiles give: Daniel Rich + Nat #29 + Nat #53
Taiwan Dolphins give: Jordan Lewis + Zach Tuohy
Bangladesh Bears get:
Kuala Lumpur Crocodiles get: Jordan Lewis + Zach Tuohy
Taiwan Dolphins get: Daniel Rich + Nat #29 + Nat #53 + Rookie #16
Next Period
Bangladesh Bears give: Dean Terlich
Taiwan Dolphins give: Jed Adcock
Bangladesh Bears get: Jed Adcock
Taiwan Dolphins get: Dean Terlich
Rico and Memph to confirm.
DECLINED - DOLPHINS DID NOT HAVE THE LIST MOVEMENTS TO MAKE THIS TRADE.
Dolphins get Tuohy back in that three-way trade which means they have the extra movement to trade Lewis??
Quote from: Adamant on October 18, 2013, 09:17:04 PM
Dolphins get Tuohy back in that three-way trade which means they have the extra movement to trade Lewis??
Tuohy belongs to the Crocs.
The Dolphins have already traded out 5 players, so can't trade anyone else out, I think.
Seriously leave Mr CW alone, any idea how hard it all would be? I think not! Shame what I have been reading
Meth really fuvked this up lol
I just think tabs and I got a bit confused with the picks. It'll all get sorted out :) might just take a while haha. All very confusing.
THIS PERIOD
Strikers give: Jamie Elliott + NAT31 + ROK15
HeadHunters give: Callan Ward + NAT59 + ROK40
NEXT PERIOD
Strikers give: Sam Gibson
HeadHunters give: Matt De Boer
Tabs to confirm again I guess :P
Quote from: Jayman on October 18, 2013, 09:46:38 PM
THIS PERIOD
Strikers give: Jamie Elliott + NAT31 + ROK15
HeadHunters give: Callan Ward + NAT59 + ROK40
NEXT PERIOD
Strikers give: Sam Gibson
HeadHunters give: Matt De Boer
Tabs to confirm again I guess :P
tabs confirming again
some piece of shower hacked my account >:( no idea what might have been done just saw several posts
Quote from: Colliwobblers on October 18, 2013, 10:25:45 PM
some piece of shower hacked my account >:( no idea what might have been done just saw several posts
:-X
Hope its all ok now!
Yeah, I had my SC team hacked. They traded out Ablett for Tuck and made Sam Rowe my captain. Luckily I reversed in time, but still infuriating ::)
Have re-posted the trade as you requested!
yeah well i got a fair idea who it was, only one guy i ever known on FF who talks like the language used in my posts he modified which i had to delete. good riddance is all i can say.
Hopefully not an asian member?
Quote from: tabs on October 18, 2013, 09:47:19 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 18, 2013, 09:46:38 PM
THIS PERIOD
Strikers give: Jamie Elliott + NAT31 + ROK15
HeadHunters give: Callan Ward + NAT59 + ROK40
NEXT PERIOD
Strikers give: Sam Gibson
HeadHunters give: Matt De Boer
Tabs to confirm again I guess :P
tabs confirming again
DECLINED - HEAD HUNTERS DO NOT HAVE THE MOVEMENTS TO MAKE THE TRADE THIS WAY.it could be done by moving the player IN for the head hunters to trade period #2.
check the list of trades and movements left to confirm here: http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,86823.msg1199348.html#msg1199348
Quote from: Colliwobblers on October 18, 2013, 11:00:13 PM
Quote from: tabs on October 18, 2013, 09:47:19 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 18, 2013, 09:46:38 PM
THIS PERIOD
Strikers give: Jamie Elliott + NAT31 + ROK15
HeadHunters give: Callan Ward + NAT59 + ROK40
NEXT PERIOD
Strikers give: Sam Gibson
HeadHunters give: Matt De Boer
Tabs to confirm again I guess :P
tabs confirming again
DECLINED - HEAD HUNTERS DO NOT HAVE THE MOVEMENTS TO MAKE THE TRADE THIS WAY.
it could be done by moving the player IN for the head hunters to trade period #2.
check the list of trades and movements left to confirm here: http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,86823.msg1199348.html#msg1199348
So tabs can't do a player trade this period? Whats the best way for us to work around the LM problem?
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 18, 2013, 07:50:29 PM
Just FYI, Sam Gibsons age on FF is wrong, he was actually born in 1986 and is currently 27 ;)
His Job Security has declined with NDS in.
3 of the last 5 trades i have processed have had teams exceeding list movements.
the easiest way i can explain the list movements cap is to say look at your team pre any trades.
there can be a total of 5 differences to the list only after trading.
this can be 5 players out and any combination of players or picks in not exceeding 5 new players in.
basically picks dont count but players do, so you can not have more than 5 different players (or vacant spots from trading players out) on your list after trading.
you can do any combination of players out for players in, players out for picks in, or picks out for players in, but whatever you do, there can only be 5 CHANGES to your original playing list pre trade period.
im not sure how to explain it any better, but if anyone is confused please send a PM don't ask in the thread it is getting far too messy.
especially given our hacking incident last night which i am still working out how to get info on who accessed my account from Monty so action can be taken, Monty would have access to the person who accessed my accounts IP and will be able to track it given it is without question an AXVS member or ex AXVS member or other XVS member which i think a little less likely. looking forward to getting that information.
Was it when the guy said, are you on crack? I thought you wouldn't say that
Quote from: whatlez on October 19, 2013, 01:17:16 PM
Was it when the guy said, are you on crack? I thought you wouldn't say that
Yeah I did find that a bit odd.
thre was that but there was a lot more, my laptop locked up after ff would not refresh after a post and my whole computer froze.
after i restarted and got back onto ff 4 or 5 posts were modified and a new one was there. i changes my password and checked all the front page to make sure lists werent changed, i have not printed them all but at the time i had no backup of any of it.
then i went and deleted the posts.
i have made a post in the discussion thread, which sums up how i feeel about htis and my intentions, it had to be a XVS coach or ex coach, i am not active outside the xvs forums to make enemies and it is unreasable to think a trouble maker from outside the xvs forums would even bother to come into a xvs thread to just cause general strife.
i will try to get monty to get to the bottom of it he has to be able to check the IP that accessed my account, i was either hacked or another mod on this forum did i which is unbelievable given who they are.
regardless i will do what i have to do to run this for as long as i have to but i will look for a replacement.
If another mod did it then it would of come up under their name when they modified it, not your name
I got someone who made a parody account of me and used a photo of myself and etc...
yeah well it wouldn't have been another mod, but they were my posts changed so they had to have logged into my account or hacked into it i don't know how people do that but i know its easy and happens all over the net all the time and i know it happened here and i know what i think of it and that's about it.
Ok I'm now thinking that the easiest thing to do for trades involving us which don't fit into the list movements is to just cancel them. So the last two trade I believe.
I think I've got how the trading/list movements work now but trying to fix things is too tricky. Once cancelled then I can re-work some of them but, I think one of the trades at least will have to be completely canned.
nothing needs to be cancelled, everything that has been processed and approved is in the list on page 1 wih remaining list movements below.
all the proposed trades that have been posted but not approved are not reflected in the list on the front page or teams lists or pick lists.
if you believe your remaining list movements on the first page are incorrect please go through the list of approved trades check and pm me to look into and make sure there is no error.
Quote from: JROO8 on October 13, 2013, 08:08:29 PM
Tigers give Tomas Bugg + Picks Rookie 21, 44ND, 47ND
Tigers get Nick Vlastuin + 41ND
Dolphins give Nick Vlastuin + Picks 29ND, 37ND, 41ND
Dolphins get Tomas Bugg + Matt Rosa + Picks 21 Rookie, 44ND
Strikers give Matt Rosa
Strikers get Picks 29ND, 37ND, 47ND
Memphis and Jay to confirm.
You've missed this one Colli - I believe again though that it is declined as I don't have the list movements out to move Vlastuin?
That's kinda what I was referring to.
This one cancelled too?
Bangladesh Bears give: Rookie #16
Kuala Lumpur Crocodiles give: Daniel Rich + Nat #29 + Nat #53
Taiwan Dolphins give: Jordan Lewis + Zach Tuohy
Bangladesh Bears get:
Kuala Lumpur Crocodiles get: Jordan Lewis + Zach Tuohy
Taiwan Dolphins get: Daniel Rich + Nat #29 + Nat #53 + Rookie #16
Rationale: Dolphins do not have the list moments to do the trade
Quote from: Memphistopheles on October 19, 2013, 04:40:12 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 13, 2013, 08:08:29 PM
Tigers give Tomas Bugg + Picks Rookie 21, 44ND, 47ND
Tigers get Nick Vlastuin + 41ND
Dolphins give Nick Vlastuin + Picks 29ND, 37ND, 41ND
Dolphins get Tomas Bugg + Matt Rosa + Picks 21 Rookie, 44ND
Strikers give Matt Rosa
Strikers get Picks 29ND, 37ND, 47ND
Memphis and Jay to confirm.
You've missed this one Colli - I believe again though that it is declined as I don't have the list movements out to move Vlastuin?
That's kinda what I was referring to.
i will check this one i thought originally the tigers couldnt do it but turned out they can, maybe you cannot - i will check. if not i will reverse all changes to lists picks and movements on front page.
Quote from: elephants on October 19, 2013, 04:43:41 PM
This one cancelled too?
Bangladesh Bears give: Rookie #16
Kuala Lumpur Crocodiles give: Daniel Rich + Nat #29 + Nat #53
Taiwan Dolphins give: Jordan Lewis + Zach Tuohy
Bangladesh Bears get:
Kuala Lumpur Crocodiles get: Jordan Lewis + Zach Tuohy
Taiwan Dolphins get: Daniel Rich + Nat #29 + Nat #53 + Rookie #16
Rationale: Dolphins do not have the list moments to do the trade
this one has been completely reversed
Quote from: Colliwobblers on October 19, 2013, 04:48:59 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 19, 2013, 04:43:41 PM
This one cancelled too?
Bangladesh Bears give: Rookie #16
Kuala Lumpur Crocodiles give: Daniel Rich + Nat #29 + Nat #53
Taiwan Dolphins give: Jordan Lewis + Zach Tuohy
Bangladesh Bears get:
Kuala Lumpur Crocodiles get: Jordan Lewis + Zach Tuohy
Taiwan Dolphins get: Daniel Rich + Nat #29 + Nat #53 + Rookie #16
Rationale: Dolphins do not have the list moments to do the trade
this one has been completely reversed
Hm. Ok.
Quote from: elephants on October 19, 2013, 04:43:41 PM
This one cancelled too?
Bangladesh Bears give: Rookie #16
Kuala Lumpur Crocodiles give: Daniel Rich + Nat #29 + Nat #53
Taiwan Dolphins give: Jordan Lewis + Zach Tuohy
Bangladesh Bears get:
Kuala Lumpur Crocodiles get: Jordan Lewis + Zach Tuohy
Taiwan Dolphins get: Daniel Rich + Nat #29 + Nat #53 + Rookie #16
Rationale: Dolphins do not have the list moments to do the trade
Yeah that one too.
ill tidy up the thread remove from the list the cancelled and declined ones, check every teams list movements, check the draft orders and the team lists.
everything is correct as far as i know i just need to reverse the one with bugg and vlastuin in it and correct everything after that one, the next two i did not process so nothing has to be reversed on those and the rook #16 bears one has already been reversed and changes back made.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on October 19, 2013, 05:06:44 PM
ill tidy up the thread remove from the list the cancelled and declined ones, check every teams list movements, check the draft orders and the team lists.
everything is correct as far as i know i just need to reverse the one with bugg and vlastuin in it and correct everything after that one, the next two i did not process so nothing has to be reversed on those and the rook #16 bears one has already been reversed and changes back made.
Thanks Colli - great work. Sorry for the confusion - was mainly based around me not grasping the trading properly.
no worries memph many still do not :)
your trades:
TRADE #5: APPROVED 2 OUT 1 IN
Kathmandu give: Cyril Rioli + Pick 33 NAT
Taiwan give: David Zaharakis + Aaron Edwards
TRADE #6: APPROVED 3 OUT 2 IN
Strikers give: Steele Sidebotom + Scott Lycett + NAT pick 41
Dolphins give: Rory Sloane + Dan Jackson + Matt Rosa
TRADE #10: APPROVED 0 OUT 2 IN
Crocodiles give: Harley Bennell + Zac Tuohy + NAT 21
Dolphins give: Sidebottom + NAT 44.
At this point you have used 5 OUT and 5 IN
I have not processed any trades after this for you so nothing needs to be reversed. Let me know if your list on the front page of this thread is incorrect as far as the players from the trade you were refering to go but i think i have already fixed it. vlastuin is still on your list as i have it.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on October 19, 2013, 05:15:35 PM
no worries memph many still do not :)
your trades:
TRADE #5: APPROVED 2 OUT 1 IN
Kathmandu give: Cyril Rioli + Pick 33 NAT
Taiwan give: David Zaharakis + Aaron Edwards
TRADE #6: APPROVED 3 OUT 2 IN
Strikers give: Steele Sidebotom + Scott Lycett + NAT pick 41
Dolphins give: Rory Sloane + Dan Jackson + Matt Rosa
TRADE #10: APPROVED 0 OUT 2 IN
Crocodiles give: Harley Bennell + Zac Tuohy + NAT 21
Dolphins give: Sidebottom + NAT 44.
At this point you have used 5 OUT and 5 IN
I have not processed any trades after this for you so nothing needs to be reversed. Let me know if your list on the front page of this thread is incorrect as far as the players from the trade you were refering to go but i think i have already fixed it. vlastuin is still on your list as i have it.
Ok thanks.
Just to clarify - trading out one of the guys who counted as an IN originally (Sidebottom) doesn't get me back an IN movement?
Because this is how I'm seeing things based on what you said changes to your original original list.
In total I've traded out from my original list: Zaharakis, Sloane, Jackson, Rosa, Edwards = 5 OUT.
And players new to my list are: Bennell, Lycett, Tuohy, Rioli = 4 IN.
My thoughts are that based on this I could bring one more player IN. Though I can't trade anyone out? Any deal would have to be for draft picks only unless I got one of the 5 guys I already traded back out in.
Quote from: Memphistopheles on October 19, 2013, 05:29:04 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on October 19, 2013, 05:15:35 PM
no worries memph many still do not :)
your trades:
TRADE #5: APPROVED 2 OUT 1 IN
Kathmandu give: Cyril Rioli + Pick 33 NAT
Taiwan give: David Zaharakis + Aaron Edwards
TRADE #6: APPROVED 3 OUT 2 IN
Strikers give: Steele Sidebotom + Scott Lycett + NAT pick 41
Dolphins give: Rory Sloane + Dan Jackson + Matt Rosa
TRADE #10: APPROVED 0 OUT 1 IN
Crocodiles give: Harley Bennell + Zac Tuohy + NAT 21
Dolphins give: Sidebottom + NAT 44.
At this point you have used 5 OUT and 4 IN
I have not processed any trades after this for you so nothing needs to be reversed. Let me know if your list on the front page of this thread is incorrect as far as the players from the trade you were refering to go but i think i have already fixed it. vlastuin is still on your list as i have it.
Ok thanks.
Just to clarify - trading out one of the guys who counted as an IN originally (Sidebottom) doesn't get me back an IN movement?
Because this is how I'm seeing things based on what you said changes to your original original list.
In total I've traded out from my original list: Zaharakis, Sloane, Jackson, Rosa, Edwards = 5 OUT.
And players new to my list are: Bennell, Lycett, Tuohy, Rioli = 4 IN.
My thoughts are that based on this I could bring one more player IN. Though I can't trade anyone out? Any deal would have to be for draft picks only unless I got one of the 5 guys I already traded back out in.
exactly what you just said - see it is complicated - i edited above so it is as you said 5 out 4 in.
THIS PERIOD
Strikers give: NAT31 + ROK15 + Sam Gibson
HeadHunters give: NAT59 + ROK40
NEXT PERIOD
Strikers give: Jamie Elliott
HeadHunters give: Callan Ward + Matt De Boer
Jay to confirm
Confirm
Quote from: tabs on October 20, 2013, 12:17:29 AM
THIS PERIOD
Strikers give: NAT31 + ROK15 + Sam Gibson
HeadHunters give: NAT59 + ROK40
NEXT PERIOD
Strikers give: Jamie Elliott
HeadHunters give: Callan Ward + Matt De Boer
Jay to confirm
DECLINED - head hunters do not have movements remaining to trade a player in this period
remaining list movements:
Head Hunters 1 out / 0 in
Strikers 2 out / 1 in
revise trade and resubmit please asap.
I need to use these 5 list movements lol.
Anyone have any left to trade with me?
This is updated and correct.
REMAINING LIST MOVEMENTS:
Kathmandu Eskimoes ( 4 OUT ) - ( 3 IN )
Tibetan Llamas ( 2 OUT ) - ( 1 IN )
Bangkok Crabs ( 2 OUT ) - ( 2 IN )
Vietnam Vipers ( 0 )
KL Crocodiles ( 1 OUT ) - ( 2 IN )
Laos Elephants ( 5 OUT ) - ( 5 IN )
UAE Tigers ( 0 OUT ) - ( 0 IN )
Australian Ales ( 3 OUT ) - ( 4 IN )
Sri Lanka Strikers ( 2 OUT ) - ( 1 IN )
Turkey Gazelles (4 OUT ) - ( 4 IN )
PNG Head Hunters ( 1 OUT ) - ( 0 IN )
Taiwan Dolphins ( 0 OUT) - ( 1 IN )
Hong Kong Dongs ( 4 OUT ) - ( 3 IN )
Mongolian Lambs ( 3 OUT ) - ( 4 IN )
Manila Folders ( 3 OUT ) - ( 3 IN )
Bangladesh Bears ( 0 OUT) - ( 1 IN )
Coll I thought I had traded out 4 and only 3 in. I'll check now though
#onlyteamnottotrade lol
Quote from: Ricochet on October 20, 2013, 11:38:15 AM
Coll I thought I had traded out 4 and only 3 in. I'll check now though
These are our trades
OUT Harley Bennell + Zac Tuohy + NAT 21
IN Steele Sidebottom + NAT 44
OUT Phil Davis + NAT 5 + ROOK 5
IN Jack Darling + NAT 29
OUT Tom Bellchambers + NAT 37 + NAT 44 + ROOK 21
IN Isaac Smith + ROOK 7 + ROOK 74
Quote from: Ricochet on October 20, 2013, 11:45:23 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 20, 2013, 11:38:15 AM
Coll I thought I had traded out 4 and only 3 in. I'll check now though
These are our trades
OUT Harley Bennell + Zac Tuohy + NAT 21
IN Steele Sidebottom + NAT 44
OUT Phil Davis + NAT 5 + ROOK 5
IN Jack Darling + NAT 29
OUT Tom Bellchambers + NAT 37 + NAT 44 + ROOK 21
IN Isaac Smith + ROOK 7 + ROOK 74
FIXED - you are above tigers on my list i had bugg going to you - error fixed in list above, working on list i will post soon that shows every movement in and out which explains the numbers i have got.
Will get it right one day
THIS PERIOD
Strikers give: NAT31 + ROK15
HeadHunters give: NAT59 + ROK40 + Matt De Boer
NEXT PERIOD
Strikers give: Jamie Elliott + Sam Gibson
HeadHunters give: Callan Ward
Jay to confirm
Quote from: Colliwobblers on October 20, 2013, 11:55:34 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 20, 2013, 11:45:23 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 20, 2013, 11:38:15 AM
Coll I thought I had traded out 4 and only 3 in. I'll check now though
These are our trades
OUT Harley Bennell + Zac Tuohy + NAT 21
IN Steele Sidebottom + NAT 44
OUT Phil Davis + NAT 5 + ROOK 5
IN Jack Darling + NAT 29
OUT Tom Bellchambers + NAT 37 + NAT 44 + ROOK 21
IN Isaac Smith + ROOK 7 + ROOK 74
FIXED - you are above tigers on my list i had bugg going to you - error fixed in list above, working on list i will post soon that shows every movement in and out which explains the numbers i have got.
You can leave Bugg at the Crocs if it makes your job easier :p
Quote from: Ricochet on October 20, 2013, 12:05:03 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on October 20, 2013, 11:55:34 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 20, 2013, 11:45:23 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 20, 2013, 11:38:15 AM
Coll I thought I had traded out 4 and only 3 in. I'll check now though
These are our trades
OUT Harley Bennell + Zac Tuohy + NAT 21
IN Steele Sidebottom + NAT 44
OUT Phil Davis + NAT 5 + ROOK 5
IN Jack Darling + NAT 29
OUT Tom Bellchambers + NAT 37 + NAT 44 + ROOK 21
IN Isaac Smith + ROOK 7 + ROOK 74
FIXED - you are above tigers on my list i had bugg going to you - error fixed in list above, working on list i will post soon that shows every movement in and out which explains the numbers i have got.
You can leave Bugg at the Crocs if it makes your job easier :p
No, don't >:( ::) :P :P
Quote from: tabs on October 20, 2013, 12:02:40 PM
Will get it right one day
THIS PERIOD
Strikers give: NAT31 + ROK15
HeadHunters give: NAT59 + ROK40 + Matt De Boer
NEXT PERIOD
Strikers give: Jamie Elliott + Sam Gibson
HeadHunters give: Callan Ward
Jay to confirm
Not quite, trades need to be 1-1 in period 2 dont they?
SUMMARY OF TRADES PROCESSED AND APPROVED - PLAYERS ONLY LISTED
Let me know if you think there are any missing trades or errors.
LAMBS
OUT
1. J Lyons
2. J Spencer
IN
1. T.JLynch
( 3 out / 4 in ) remaining
LLAMAS
OUT
1. T.J.Lynch
2. B Matera
3. M Wallis
IN
1. J Lyons
2. J Spencer
3. M Gawn
4. B Hill
( 2 out / 1 in ) remaining
VIPERS
OUT
1. B Hill
2. M Gawn
3. M Lecras
4. H Macintosh
5. S Hurn
IN
1. M Wallis
2. B Matera
3. D Stanley
4. R Pettard
5. T Menzel
( 0 out / 0 in ) remaining
BEARS
OUT
1. D Stanley
2. R Pettard
3. R Murphy
4. H Macintosh ( DOES NOT COUNT WAS NOT AN ORIGINAL BEARS PLAYER )
4. Broughton
5. N Vardy
IN
1. M Lecras
2. H Macintosh (DOES NOT COUNT ON TRADED NOT ORIGINAL BEARS PLAYER )
2. D Terlich
3. Griffen
4. M Pavlich
( 0 out / 1 in ) Remaining
ESKIMOS
OUT
1. C Rioli
IN
1. D Zaharakis
2. Edwards
( 4 out / 3 in ) remaining
DOLPHINS
OUT
1. D Zaharakis
2. Edwards
3. R Sloanne
4. D Jackson
5. M Rosa
5. S Sidebottom ( DOES NOT COUNT WAS NOT AN ORIGINAL DOLPHINS PLAYER )
IN
1. C Rioli
2. S Sidebottom ( DOES NOT COUNT ON TRADED WAS NOT AN ORIGINAL DOLPHINS PLAYER)
2. H Bennell
3. Z Tuohy
4. S Lycett
( 0 out / 1 in ) remaining
STRIKERS
OUT
1. S Sidebottom
2. S Lycett
3. M Clarke
IN
1. R Sloanne
2. D Jackson
3. M Rosa
4. A Mackie
( 2 out / 1 in ) remaining
DONGS
OUT
1. M Pavlich
IN
1. R Murphy
2. H M Macintosh
( 4 out / 3 in ) remaining
CRABS
OUT
1. D Terlich
2. Griffen
3. J Darling
IN
1. G Broughton
2. N Vardy
3. Davis
( 2 out / 2 in ) remaining
FOLDERS
OUT
1. A Mackie
2. T Bell
IN
1. M Clarke
2. J Walker
( 3 out / 3 in ) remaining
CROCODILES
OUT
1. H Bennell
2. Davis
3. J Tuohy
4. T Bellchambers
IN
1. S Sidebottom
2. J Darling
3. I smith
( 1 out / 2 in ) remaining
TIGERS
OUT
1. M Baguley
2. L Spurr
3. I Smith
4. T Menzel
5. F Ray
IN
1.R Gray
2. D Armitage
3. T Bellchambers
4. S Hurn
5. T Bugg
( 0 out / 0 in ) remaining
GAZELLES
OUT
1. R Gray
IN
1. M Baguley
( 4 out / 4 in ) remaining
HEAD HUNTERS
OUT
1. D Armitage
2. J Walker
3. T Bugg
4. D Swallow
IN
1. L Spurr
2. T Bell
3. F Ray
4. D Pearce
5. J Blair
( 1 out / 0 in ) remaining
ALES
OUT
1. D Pearce
2. J Blair
IN
1. D Swallow
( 3 out / 4 in ) remaining
ELEPHANTS
OUT
IN
( 5 out / 5 in ) remaining
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 20, 2013, 12:15:48 PM
Quote from: tabs on October 20, 2013, 12:02:40 PM
Will get it right one day
THIS PERIOD
Strikers give: NAT31 + ROK15
HeadHunters give: NAT59 + ROK40 + Matt De Boer
NEXT PERIOD
Strikers give: Jamie Elliott + Sam Gibson
HeadHunters give: Callan Ward
Jay to confirm
Not quite, trades need to be 1-1 in period 2 dont they?
no we just changed the rule to that they don't have to be of equal picks/players, i wouldn't expect too many uneven trades in period 2 but you could do swan for gaff and howe type trades in period 2 i suppose....
Go Elephants! No trades lol
#stubborn #bestlist #needforwards #willpaybigforaprem
Don't lie Lez, you won't pay for anything. That's why you haven't used a movement yet :P
Quote from: tabs on October 20, 2013, 12:02:40 PM
Will get it right one day
THIS PERIOD
Strikers give: NAT31 + ROK15
HeadHunters give: NAT59 + ROK40 + Matt De Boer
NEXT PERIOD
Strikers give: Jamie Elliott + Sam Gibson
HeadHunters give: Callan Ward
Jay to confirm
confirm.
Sadly, Taiwan's captain and inspiration in the 2013 Asians XV season will not be at the club in 2014 following a trade with the Kuala Lumpur Crocodiles.
THIS PERIOD
Crocodiles Give: I.Smith
Crocodiles Get:
Dolphins Give:
Dolphins Get: I.Smith
NEXT PERIOD
Crocodiles Give: Coniglio + Murdoch
Crocodiles Get: Ablett + Enright
Dolphins Give: Ablett + Enright
Dolphins Get: Coniglio + Murdoch
Trade has been structured like this, instead of all in the second period, to use up my remaining list movement in this period and ensure Ricochet doesn't have an odd number of list movements in/out in the next period which makes things easier for him.
Reasons are that we get a future gun/premium midfielder in Stephen Coniglio plus a player who game suits this scoring system in Isaac Smith.
He might get a tag or two in the coming season but by the time we are ready to challenge for the Top 4 again he should be a gun scorer.
Also I rate Murdoch very highly and now several Cats veterans have been moved on he should become a regular in the Cats team - I fancy him to take Chapman's position to be honest.
Ric to confirm.
Also, and I'll stress this was not a consideration in accepting this offer, Ablett and Enright at the Crocodiles should turn them into genuine contenders which will make for a much more interesting competition in my opinion.
If Gaz had gone to the Folders or Bears then they would have been the clear favourite to win/dominate next season.
So... the Crocs could potentially have GAJ and Pendles if this trade goes through? :o :o :o
Quote from: Memphistopheles on October 22, 2013, 01:11:50 PM
Sadly, Taiwan's captain and inspiration in the 2013 Asians XV season will not be at the club in 2014 following a trade with the Kuala Lumpur Crocodiles.
THIS PERIOD
Crocodiles Give: I.Smith
Crocodiles Get:
Dolphins Give:
Dolphins Get: I.Smith
NEXT PERIOD
Crocodiles Give: Coniglio + Murdoch
Crocodiles Get: Ablett + Enright
Dolphins Give: Ablett + Enright
Dolphins Get: Coniglio + Murdoch
Trade has been structured like this, instead of all in the second period, to use up my remaining list movement in this period and ensure Ricochet doesn't have an odd number of list movements in/out in the next period which makes things easier for him.
Reasons are that we get a future gun/premium midfielder in Stephen Coniglio plus a player who game suits this scoring system in Isaac Smith.
He might get a tag or two in the coming season but by the time we are ready to challenge for the Top 4 again he should be a gun scorer.
Also I rate Murdoch very highly and now several Cats veterans have been moved on he should become a regular in the Cats team - I fancy him to take Chapman's position to be honest.
Ric to confirm.
Also, and I'll stress this was not a consideration in accepting this offer, Ablett and Enright at the Crocodiles should turn them into genuine contenders which will make for a much more interesting competition in my opinion.
If Gaz had gone to the Folders or Bears then they would have been the clear favourite to win/dominate next season.
I confirm.
Thanks Memph.
Thanks Memph, pleasure doing business :)
Quote from: NigeyS on October 22, 2013, 01:15:00 PM
So... the Crocs could potentially have GAJ and Pendles if this trade goes through? :o :o :o
He's just another Croc wanting to do his part of the team, nothing special ;)
Quote from: NigeyS on October 22, 2013, 01:15:00 PM
So... the Crocs could potentially have GAJ and Pendles if this trade goes through? :o :o :o
And Sidebottom and Gibbs.
But, there's several other teams who have 4 out and out guns too.
I think the Crocodiles now are probably looking at at Top 4 spot but need to strengthen other lines become a flag contender.
Wow :o
Damn, so close to getting GAJ. :(
Quote from: Memphistopheles on October 22, 2013, 01:48:26 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 22, 2013, 01:15:00 PM
So... the Crocs could potentially have GAJ and Pendles if this trade goes through? :o :o :o
And Sidebottom and Gibbs.
But, there's several other teams who have 4 out and out guns too.
I think the Crocodiles now are probably looking at at Top 4 spot but need to strengthen other lines become a flag contender.
4 players isn't enough to get you a flag. Their forward line is worse than me.
Quote from: Adamant on October 22, 2013, 02:53:10 PM
Damn, so close to getting GAJ. :(
:(
Quote from: whatlez on October 22, 2013, 03:17:33 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on October 22, 2013, 01:48:26 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 22, 2013, 01:15:00 PM
So... the Crocs could potentially have GAJ and Pendles if this trade goes through? :o :o :o
And Sidebottom and Gibbs.
But, there's several other teams who have 4 out and out guns too.
I think the Crocodiles now are probably looking at at Top 4 spot but need to strengthen other lines become a flag contender.
4 players isn't enough to get you a flag. Their forward line is worse than me.
Quote from: Adamant on October 22, 2013, 02:53:10 PM
Damn, so close to getting GAJ. :(
:(
Sounds like Lezbo is a bit bitter ;) Darling > all your fwds combined.
Quote from: Adamant on October 22, 2013, 02:53:10 PM
Damn, so close to getting GAJ. :(
Same here. Devastated I didn't get him :(
tough trade to process.
in BXVS i had to give robbie gray , jack macrae, jesse lonergan, seb ross
just to get ablett and a few middle of the draft picks.
these threee players here are further along than the kids i gave up in british, and there are no picks going the other way - but there is enright.
but this isnt british its asians so thats irrelevant, but the community expectation of the "price of ablett" seems inflated so hard one to rule on.
going to be close. will rule on it later tonight.
Think you can rule on my trade with tabs when you get the chance too, Colli? :)
Quote from: NigeyS on October 22, 2013, 01:15:00 PM
So... the Crocs could potentially have GAJ and Pendles if this trade goes through? :o :o :o
Their midfield will be GAJ- Pendles - Sidebottom - Liberatore - Gibbs :o
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 22, 2013, 07:19:59 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 22, 2013, 01:15:00 PM
So... the Crocs could potentially have GAJ and Pendles if this trade goes through? :o :o :o
Their midfield will be GAJ- Pendles - Sidebottom - Liberatore - Gibbs :o
Who needs another 11 players when you have GAJ, Pendles, Sidey and Libba as your midfield? :P
Holy shower, what a midfield.
Quote from: NigeyS on October 22, 2013, 07:21:32 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 22, 2013, 07:19:59 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 22, 2013, 01:15:00 PM
So... the Crocs could potentially have GAJ and Pendles if this trade goes through? :o :o :o
Their midfield will be GAJ- Pendles - Sidebottom - Liberatore - Gibbs :o
Who needs another 11 players when you have GAJ, Pendles, Sidey and Libba as your midfield? :P
All contenders in a game that favours goals.
A gun forward line goes a long way to helping you win games in this competition as well.
Quote from: Jayman on October 22, 2013, 07:12:49 PM
Think you can rule on my trade with tabs when you get the chance too, Colli? :)
no :P
will do tonight
Quote from: Memphistopheles on October 22, 2013, 07:25:20 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 22, 2013, 07:21:32 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 22, 2013, 07:19:59 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 22, 2013, 01:15:00 PM
So... the Crocs could potentially have GAJ and Pendles if this trade goes through? :o :o :o
Their midfield will be GAJ- Pendles - Sidebottom - Liberatore - Gibbs :o
Who needs another 11 players when you have GAJ, Pendles, Sidey and Libba as your midfield? :P
All contenders in a game that favours goals.
A gun forward line goes a long way to helping you win games in this competition as well.
Haha I know mate. Don't have to tell me. My Cairo boys in WXVs lost a World Cup game to Jay's Strikers because of bloody JJK. ::) >:(
Very very lucky to have Libba! Would be a Llama if he wasn't suspended for drugs at the time we took Wallis instead!
Only blame yourselves Asia, trading superstars for super kids? Nice work from the Crocs but sheesh :P
Trade me Swan for Toumpas? ::)
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 22, 2013, 07:19:59 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 22, 2013, 01:15:00 PM
So... the Crocs could potentially have GAJ and Pendles if this trade goes through? :o :o :o
Their midfield will be GAJ- Pendles - Sidebottom - Liberatore - Gibbs :o
Only problem is that they have no forwards hahaha
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 22, 2013, 07:32:45 PM
Very very lucky to have Libba! Would be a Llama if he wasn't suspended for drugs at the time we took Wallis
i swear I've heard this about 10 times, ::)
He had another deal with me and Adamant and he would if gained a lot more, oh well...
Quote from: specky92 on October 22, 2013, 07:34:12 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 22, 2013, 07:32:45 PM
Very very lucky to have Libba! Would be a Llama if he wasn't suspended for drugs at the time we took Wallis
i swear I've heard this about 10 times, ::)
Still hurts :-\
Quote from: whatlez on October 22, 2013, 07:33:52 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 22, 2013, 07:19:59 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 22, 2013, 01:15:00 PM
So... the Crocs could potentially have GAJ and Pendles if this trade goes through? :o :o :o
Their midfield will be GAJ- Pendles - Sidebottom - Liberatore - Gibbs :o
Only problem is that they have no forwards hahaha
Oh I meant backs outside Gibbs
Quote from: Memphistopheles on October 22, 2013, 07:25:20 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 22, 2013, 07:21:32 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 22, 2013, 07:19:59 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 22, 2013, 01:15:00 PM
So... the Crocs could potentially have GAJ and Pendles if this trade goes through? :o :o :o
Their midfield will be GAJ- Pendles - Sidebottom - Liberatore - Gibbs :o
Who needs another 11 players when you have GAJ, Pendles, Sidey and Libba as your midfield? :P
All contenders in a game that favours goals.
A gun forward line goes a long way to helping you win games in this competition as well.
Spot on. I made sure that having a gun forward line was a priority this year.
Nick Riewoldt, Matthew Pavlich, Brent Harvey, Mark LeCras and Mitch Robinson isn't a bad first 5.
Travis Cloke, Mitch Clark, Chris Mayne, Dayne Zorko and Hayden Ballantyne might have something to say about that ;)
Quote from: Adamant on October 22, 2013, 07:40:53 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on October 22, 2013, 07:25:20 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 22, 2013, 07:21:32 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 22, 2013, 07:19:59 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 22, 2013, 01:15:00 PM
So... the Crocs could potentially have GAJ and Pendles if this trade goes through? :o :o :o
Their midfield will be GAJ- Pendles - Sidebottom - Liberatore - Gibbs :o
Who needs another 11 players when you have GAJ, Pendles, Sidey and Libba as your midfield? :P
All contenders in a game that favours goals.
A gun forward line goes a long way to helping you win games in this competition as well.
Spot on. I made sure that having a gun forward line was a priority this year.
Nick Riewoldt, Matthew Pavlich, Brent Harvey, Mark LeCras and Mitch Robinson isn't a bad first 5.
It is all about the forwards and mids in AXV!
Well done on the trade guys. Great to see. Very even imo considering the ages involved with the players!
Quote from: NigeyS on October 22, 2013, 07:31:26 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on October 22, 2013, 07:25:20 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 22, 2013, 07:21:32 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 22, 2013, 07:19:59 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 22, 2013, 01:15:00 PM
So... the Crocs could potentially have GAJ and Pendles if this trade goes through? :o :o :o
Their midfield will be GAJ- Pendles - Sidebottom - Liberatore - Gibbs :o
Who needs another 11 players when you have GAJ, Pendles, Sidey and Libba as your midfield? :P
All contenders in a game that favours goals.
A gun forward line goes a long way to helping you win games in this competition as well.
Haha I know mate. Don't have to tell me. My Cairo boys in WXVs lost a World Cup game to Jay's Strikers because of bloody JJK. ::) >:(
;D ;D ;D
Watch out for the Llama forward line ;)
Vipers fwd line all gone to the bears.
sell out flag chasing traitors requesting trades to the premiers....
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 22, 2013, 07:32:45 PM
Very very lucky to have Libba! Would be a Llama if he wasn't suspended for drugs at the time we took Wallis instead!
Only blame yourselves Asia, trading superstars for super kids? Nice work from the Crocs but sheesh :P
Trade me Swan for Toumpas? ::)
Lucky? Nah, poor drafting by you :P
Quote from: whatlez on October 22, 2013, 07:33:52 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 22, 2013, 07:19:59 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 22, 2013, 01:15:00 PM
So... the Crocs could potentially have GAJ and Pendles if this trade goes through? :o :o :o
Their midfield will be GAJ- Pendles - Sidebottom - Liberatore - Gibbs :o
Only problem is that they have no forwards hahaha
Our fwd line showers on yours sooo... :-\
Quote from: elephants on October 22, 2013, 10:04:07 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 22, 2013, 07:33:52 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 22, 2013, 07:19:59 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 22, 2013, 01:15:00 PM
So... the Crocs could potentially have GAJ and Pendles if this trade goes through? :o :o :o
Their midfield will be GAJ- Pendles - Sidebottom - Liberatore - Gibbs :o
Only problem is that they have no forwards hahaha
Our fwd line showers on yours sooo... :-\
Quote from: whatlez on October 22, 2013, 07:40:44 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 22, 2013, 07:33:52 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 22, 2013, 07:19:59 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 22, 2013, 01:15:00 PM
So... the Crocs could potentially have GAJ and Pendles if this trade goes through? :o :o :o
Their midfield will be GAJ- Pendles - Sidebottom - Liberatore - Gibbs :o
Only problem is that they have no forwards hahaha
Oh I meant backs outside Gibbs
Who needs defenders? The competition's #14 defender in Nick Malceski could be on the move, PM me if interested. After a gun forward in return.
Quote from: Jayman on October 20, 2013, 07:41:03 PM
Quote from: tabs on October 20, 2013, 12:02:40 PM
Will get it right one day
THIS PERIOD
Strikers give: NAT31 + ROK15
HeadHunters give: NAT59 + ROK40 + Matt De Boer
NEXT PERIOD
Strikers give: Jamie Elliott + Sam Gibson
HeadHunters give: Callan Ward
Jay to confirm
confirm.
APPROVED
Eskimos give: David Zaharakis + Liam Jones + Rookie 17
Ales give: Luke Breust + Taylor Durya + NAT 27 + NAT 40
JBs-Hawks to confirm
Confirm
Quote from: Ricochet on October 22, 2013, 01:15:59 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on October 22, 2013, 01:11:50 PM
Sadly, Taiwan's captain and inspiration in the 2013 Asians XV season will not be at the club in 2014 following a trade with the Kuala Lumpur Crocodiles.
THIS PERIOD
Crocodiles Give: I.Smith
Crocodiles Get:
Dolphins Give:
Dolphins Get: I.Smith
NEXT PERIOD
Crocodiles Give: Coniglio + Murdoch
Crocodiles Get: Ablett + Enright
Dolphins Give: Ablett + Enright
Dolphins Get: Coniglio + Murdoch
Trade has been structured like this, instead of all in the second period, to use up my remaining list movement in this period and ensure Ricochet doesn't have an odd number of list movements in/out in the next period which makes things easier for him.
Reasons are that we get a future gun/premium midfielder in Stephen Coniglio plus a player who game suits this scoring system in Isaac Smith.
He might get a tag or two in the coming season but by the time we are ready to challenge for the Top 4 again he should be a gun scorer.
Also I rate Murdoch very highly and now several Cats veterans have been moved on he should become a regular in the Cats team - I fancy him to take Chapman's position to be honest.
Ric to confirm.
Also, and I'll stress this was not a consideration in accepting this offer, Ablett and Enright at the Crocodiles should turn them into genuine contenders which will make for a much more interesting competition in my opinion.
If Gaz had gone to the Folders or Bears then they would have been the clear favourite to win/dominate next season.
I confirm.
Thanks Memph.
APPROVED
Quote from: Colliwobblers on October 23, 2013, 08:59:27 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 22, 2013, 01:15:59 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on October 22, 2013, 01:11:50 PM
Sadly, Taiwan's captain and inspiration in the 2013 Asians XV season will not be at the club in 2014 following a trade with the Kuala Lumpur Crocodiles.
THIS PERIOD
Crocodiles Give: I.Smith
Crocodiles Get:
Dolphins Give:
Dolphins Get: I.Smith
NEXT PERIOD
Crocodiles Give: Coniglio + Murdoch
Crocodiles Get: Ablett + Enright
Dolphins Give: Ablett + Enright
Dolphins Get: Coniglio + Murdoch
Trade has been structured like this, instead of all in the second period, to use up my remaining list movement in this period and ensure Ricochet doesn't have an odd number of list movements in/out in the next period which makes things easier for him.
Reasons are that we get a future gun/premium midfielder in Stephen Coniglio plus a player who game suits this scoring system in Isaac Smith.
He might get a tag or two in the coming season but by the time we are ready to challenge for the Top 4 again he should be a gun scorer.
Also I rate Murdoch very highly and now several Cats veterans have been moved on he should become a regular in the Cats team - I fancy him to take Chapman's position to be honest.
Ric to confirm.
Also, and I'll stress this was not a consideration in accepting this offer, Ablett and Enright at the Crocodiles should turn them into genuine contenders which will make for a much more interesting competition in my opinion.
If Gaz had gone to the Folders or Bears then they would have been the clear favourite to win/dominate next season.
I confirm.
Thanks Memph.
APPROVED
(http://i.imgur.com/o4Zw4.gif)
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 23, 2013, 08:50:11 PM
Eskimos give: David Zaharakis + Liam Jones + Rookie 17
Ales give: Luke Breust + Taylor Durya + NAT 27 + NAT 40
JBs-Hawks to confirm
APPROVEDwho are the HAWKS ? :o
Quote from: Colliwobblers on October 23, 2013, 09:10:55 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 23, 2013, 08:50:11 PM
Eskimos give: David Zaharakis + Liam Jones + Rookie 17
Hawks give: Luke Breust + Taylor Durya + NAT 27 + NAT 40
JBs-Hawks to confirm
who are the HAWKS ?
JB :P
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5cpuEIRQQKI/Tz17P4UtvJI/AAAAAAAAAdA/JoRUfMsfGPw/s280/Kaka-Celebration-Wallpaper.jpg)
Yes, I do belong to GAJ.
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 23, 2013, 09:11:48 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on October 23, 2013, 09:10:55 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 23, 2013, 08:50:11 PM
Eskimos give: David Zaharakis + Liam Jones + Rookie 17
Hawks give: Luke Breust + Taylor Durya + NAT 27 + NAT 40
JBs-Hawks to confirm
who are the HAWKS ?
oh god I really need to go to bed haha, should be the Ales
JB :P
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 23, 2013, 09:17:51 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 23, 2013, 09:11:48 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on October 23, 2013, 09:10:55 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 23, 2013, 08:50:11 PM
Eskimos give: David Zaharakis + Liam Jones + Rookie 17
Hawks give: Luke Breust + Taylor Durya + NAT 27 + NAT 40
JBs-Hawks to confirm
who are the HAWKS ?
oh god I really need to go to bed haha, should be the Ales
JB :P
Learn to quote brah.
Quote from: NigeyS on October 23, 2013, 09:19:35 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 23, 2013, 09:17:51 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 23, 2013, 09:11:48 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on October 23, 2013, 09:10:55 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 23, 2013, 08:50:11 PM
Eskimos give: David Zaharakis + Liam Jones + Rookie 17
Hawks give: Luke Breust + Taylor Durya + NAT 27 + NAT 40
JBs-Hawks to confirm
who are the HAWKS ?
oh god I really need to go to bed haha, should be the Ales
JB :P
Learn to quote brah.
:(
I really need to go to bed haha
Its always hard to judge a trade when its proven stars for young guns but this one seems pretty fair for both sides. So well done guys :)
Bit unusual that the Crocs would trade for a 29y.o though! Even if it is GAJ!
Quote from: Jayman on October 23, 2013, 09:28:27 PM
Bit unusual that the Crocs would trade for a 29y.o though! Even if it is GAJ!
GAJ will never retire 8)
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 23, 2013, 09:17:51 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 23, 2013, 09:11:48 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on October 23, 2013, 09:10:55 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 23, 2013, 08:50:11 PM
Eskimos give: David Zaharakis + Liam Jones + Rookie 17
Hawks give: Luke Breust + Taylor Durya + NAT 27 + NAT 40
JBs-Hawks to confirm
who are the HAWKS ?
oh god I really need to go to bed haha, should be the Ales
JB :P
Koops just used to seeing the Hawks rape the trades in British #premiers2014
ALL NEW TRADES PROCESSED, ALL LISTS UP TO DATE, PICK ORDER UP TO DATE, TRADE LIST UP TO DATE, LIST MOVEMENTS UP TO DATE - ALL ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THIS THREAD.Quote from: Colliwobblers on October 20, 2013, 12:22:24 PM
SUMMARY OF TRADES PROCESSED AND APPROVED - PLAYERS ONLY LISTED
Let me know if you think there are any missing trades or errors.
LAMBS
OUT
1. J Lyons
2. J Spencer
IN
1. T.JLynch
( 3 out / 4 in ) remaining
LLAMAS
OUT
1. T.J.Lynch
2. B Matera
3. M Wallis
IN
1. J Lyons
2. J Spencer
3. M Gawn
4. B Hill
( 2 out / 1 in ) remaining
VIPERS
OUT
1. B Hill
2. M Gawn
3. M Lecras
4. H Macintosh
5. S Hurn
IN
1. M Wallis
2. B Matera
3. D Stanley
4. R Pettard
5. T Menzel
( 0 out / 0 in ) remaining
BEARS
OUT
1. D Stanley
2. R Pettard
3. R Murphy
4. H Macintosh ( DOES NOT COUNT WAS NOT AN ORIGINAL BEARS PLAYER )
4. Broughton
5. N Vardy
IN
1. M Lecras
2. H Macintosh (DOES NOT COUNT ON TRADED NOT ORIGINAL BEARS PLAYER )
2. D Terlich
3. Griffen
4. M Pavlich
( 0 out / 1 in ) Remaining
ESKIMOS
OUT
1. C Rioli
2. D Zaharakis ( DOES NOT COUNT WAS NOT AN ORIGINAL ESKIMO PLAYER )
2. L Jones
IN
1. D Zaharakis ( DOES NOT COUNT ON TRADED WAS NOT AN ORIGINAL ESKIMO PLAYER)
1. Edwards
2. L Breust
3. T Durya
( 3 out / 2 in ) remaining
DOLPHINS
OUT
1. D Zaharakis
2. Edwards
3. R Sloanne
4. D Jackson
5. M Rosa
5. S Sidebottom ( DOES NOT COUNT WAS NOT AN ORIGINAL DOLPHINS PLAYER )
IN
1. C Rioli
2. S Sidebottom ( DOES NOT COUNT ON TRADED WAS NOT AN ORIGINAL DOLPHINS PLAYER)
2. H Bennell
3. Z Tuohy
4. S Lycett
5. I Smith
( 0 out / 0 in ) remaining
STRIKERS
OUT
1. S Sidebottom
2. S Lycett
3. M Clarke
IN
1. R Sloanne
2. D Jackson
3. M Rosa
4. A Mackie
5. M Deboer
( 2 out / 0 in ) remaining
DONGS
OUT
1. M Pavlich
IN
1. R Murphy
2. H M Macintosh
( 4 out / 3 in ) remaining
CRABS
OUT
1. D Terlich
2. Griffen
3. J Darling
IN
1. G Broughton
2. N Vardy
3. Davis
( 2 out / 2 in ) remaining
FOLDERS
OUT
1. A Mackie
2. T Bell
IN
1. M Clarke
2. J Walker
( 3 out / 3 in ) remaining
CROCODILES
OUT
1. H Bennell
2. Davis
3. J Tuohy
4. T Bellchambers
5. I Smith ( DOES NOT COUNT WAS NOT AN ORIGINAL CROCODILES PLAYER )
IN
1. S Sidebottom
2. J Darling
3. I smith ( DOES NOT COUNT ON TRADED WAS NOT AN ORIGINAL CROCODILES PLAYER)
( 1 out / 3 in ) remaining
TIGERS
OUT
1. M Baguley
2. L Spurr
3. I Smith
4. T Menzel
5. F Ray
IN
1.R Gray
2. D Armitage
3. T Bellchambers
4. S Hurn
5. T Bugg
( 0 out / 0 in ) remaining
GAZELLES
OUT
1. R Gray
IN
1. M Baguley
( 4 out / 4 in ) remaining
HEAD HUNTERS
OUT
1. D Armitage
2. J Walker
3. T Bugg
4. D Swallow
5. M Deboer
IN
1. L Spurr
2. T Bell
3. F Ray
4. D Pearce
5. J Blair
( 0 out / 0 in ) remaining
ALES
OUT
1. D Pearce
2. J Blair
3. L Breust
4. T Durya
IN
1. D Swallow
2. D Kaharakis
3. L Jones
( 1 out / 2 in ) remaining
ELEPHANTS
OUT
IN
( 5 out / 5 in ) remaining
LIST ABOVE UPDATED
Won't Smith cancel himself out Coll?
Quote from: Ricochet on October 23, 2013, 10:54:42 PM
Won't Smith cancel himself out Coll?
YES he will - man I'll be glad when trading finished and drafting starts :)
then the trading starts all over again... ???
I will fix this on the movement counts and have above.
All good thanks mate
Tried so hard to get deals over the line... Still no movements :(
Quote from: whatlez on October 24, 2013, 12:15:13 AM
Tried so hard to get deals over the line... Still no movements :(
Don't be so stubborn. :P Haha nah, we nearly had that good deal going with Memph. :'(
Quote from: whatlez on October 24, 2013, 12:15:13 AM
Tried so hard to get deals over the line... Still no movements :(
deal i heard about that was involving a certain premium sounded like your offer was very very reasonable, don't even know if that premium is being traded anymore.
but best way to make a deal is offer someone a serious offer for someone you really want and are prepared to pay for.
or put a highly valued in demand player on the market and take the best offer of what it is you need in return....
im no good at trading either. happy enough with my movements but certainly haven't had any big wins.
Quote from: Adamant on October 24, 2013, 12:21:48 AM
Quote from: whatlez on October 24, 2013, 12:15:13 AM
Tried so hard to get deals over the line... Still no movements :(
Don't be so stubborn. :P Haha nah, we nearly had that good deal going with Memph. :'(
I've offered some ripping deals and people aren't interested :(
Quote from: Colliwobblers on October 24, 2013, 12:31:21 AM
Quote from: whatlez on October 24, 2013, 12:15:13 AM
Tried so hard to get deals over the line... Still no movements :(
deal i heard about that was involving a certain premium sounded like your offer was very very reasonable, don't even know if that premium is being traded anymore.
but best way to make a deal is offer someone a serious offer for someone you really want and are prepared to pay for.
or put a highly valued in demand player on the market and take the best offer of what it is you need in return....
im no good at trading either. happy enough with my movements but certainly haven't had any big wins.
I offered like half my team for Cotchin. Any dumbie wants 2 future guns and a likely gun...
These are the players on the market
Defenders:
Alex Rance, Brodie Smith, Jarryn Geary , Sam Colquhoun, Tom McDonald, Daniel Nicholson, Josh Bootsma, Ben Stratton, Sam Frost, Maverick Weller, Seb Tape, Rory Thompson, Niall McKeever, Peter Yagmoor, Joel Wilkinson, Tanner Smith)
Midfielders:
Dylan Shiel, Oliver Wines, Thomas Sheridan, Sam Dunell, Bradley McKenzie, Liam Shiels, Matt White, Jamie Bennell
Rucks:
Billy Longer, Ben Mabon
Forwards:
Joshua Green, Johnathon Patton, Jared Petrenko, Sam Day, Scott Gumbleton, Ayden Kennedy,
Please spam me with Inboxes
This Period:
Bangladesh give: Nat #48
PNG give:
Next Period:
Bangladesh give: Michael Evans
PNG give: Andrew Carrazzo
tabs to confirm.
Quote from: Adamant on October 24, 2013, 12:53:01 AM
This Period:
Bangladesh give: Nat #48
PNG give:
Next Period:
Bangladesh give: Michael Evans
PNG give: Andrew Carrazzo
tabs to confirm.
tabs confirming
Quote from: whatlez on October 24, 2013, 12:37:54 AM
These are the players on the market
Defenders:
Alex Rance, Brodie Smith, Jarryn Geary , Sam Colquhoun, Tom McDonald, Daniel Nicholson, Josh Bootsma, Ben Stratton, Sam Frost, Maverick Weller, Seb Tape, Rory Thompson, Niall McKeever, Peter Yagmoor, Joel Wilkinson, Tanner Smith)
Midfielders:
Dylan Shiel, Oliver Wines, Thomas Sheridan, Sam Dunell, Bradley McKenzie, Liam Shiels, Matt White, Jamie Bennell
Rucks:
Billy Longer, Ben Mabon
Forwards:
Joshua Green, Johnathon Patton, Jared Petrenko, Sam Day, Scott Gumbleton, Ayden Kennedy,
Please spam me with Inboxes
Is it worth me trying again? The Crabs want to do a deal mate.
Quote from: whatlez on October 24, 2013, 12:33:20 AM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on October 24, 2013, 12:31:21 AM
Quote from: whatlez on October 24, 2013, 12:15:13 AM
Tried so hard to get deals over the line... Still no movements :(
deal i heard about that was involving a certain premium sounded like your offer was very very reasonable, don't even know if that premium is being traded anymore.
but best way to make a deal is offer someone a serious offer for someone you really want and are prepared to pay for.
or put a highly valued in demand player on the market and take the best offer of what it is you need in return....
im no good at trading either. happy enough with my movements but certainly haven't had any big wins.
I offered like half my team for Cotchin. Any dumbie wants 2 future guns and a likely gun...
Offered half my team for him too and at one point hsd it confirmed only for a change of mind :(
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 24, 2013, 07:01:38 AM
Quote from: whatlez on October 24, 2013, 12:33:20 AM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on October 24, 2013, 12:31:21 AM
Quote from: whatlez on October 24, 2013, 12:15:13 AM
Tried so hard to get deals over the line... Still no movements :(
deal i heard about that was involving a certain premium sounded like your offer was very very reasonable, don't even know if that premium is being traded anymore.
but best way to make a deal is offer someone a serious offer for someone you really want and are prepared to pay for.
or put a highly valued in demand player on the market and take the best offer of what it is you need in return....
im no good at trading either. happy enough with my movements but certainly haven't had any big wins.
I offered like half my team for Cotchin. Any dumbie wants 2 future guns and a likely gun...
Offered half my team for him too and at one point hsd it confirmed only for a change of mind :(
Mine was also confirmed then your offer came on the table haha
Quote from: RidleyU on October 24, 2013, 06:53:59 AM
Quote from: whatlez on October 24, 2013, 12:37:54 AM
These are the players on the market
Defenders:
Alex Rance, Brodie Smith, Jarryn Geary , Sam Colquhoun, Tom McDonald, Daniel Nicholson, Josh Bootsma, Ben Stratton, Sam Frost, Maverick Weller, Seb Tape, Rory Thompson, Niall McKeever, Peter Yagmoor, Joel Wilkinson, Tanner Smith)
Midfielders:
Dylan Shiel, Oliver Wines, Thomas Sheridan, Sam Dunell, Bradley McKenzie, Liam Shiels, Matt White, Jamie Bennell
Rucks:
Billy Longer, Ben Mabon
Forwards:
Joshua Green, Johnathon Patton, Jared Petrenko, Sam Day, Scott Gumbleton, Ayden Kennedy,
Please spam me with Inboxes
Is it worth me trying again? The Crabs want to do a deal mate.
Rids the only players that I want are not available. Or I have to over pay for someone like Treloar
Quote from: whatlez on October 24, 2013, 09:32:19 AM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 24, 2013, 07:01:38 AM
Quote from: whatlez on October 24, 2013, 12:33:20 AM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on October 24, 2013, 12:31:21 AM
Quote from: whatlez on October 24, 2013, 12:15:13 AM
Tried so hard to get deals over the line... Still no movements :(
deal i heard about that was involving a certain premium sounded like your offer was very very reasonable, don't even know if that premium is being traded anymore.
but best way to make a deal is offer someone a serious offer for someone you really want and are prepared to pay for.
or put a highly valued in demand player on the market and take the best offer of what it is you need in return....
im no good at trading either. happy enough with my movements but certainly haven't had any big wins.
I offered like half my team for Cotchin. Any dumbie wants 2 future guns and a likely gun...
Offered half my team for him too and at one point hsd it confirmed only for a change of mind :(
Mine was also confirmed then your offer came on the table haha
Nah I had an offer accepted before the season was even over too, that was an amended offer :P
Quote from: whatlez on October 24, 2013, 09:34:48 AM
Quote from: RidleyU on October 24, 2013, 06:53:59 AM
Quote from: whatlez on October 24, 2013, 12:37:54 AM
These are the players on the market
Defenders:
Alex Rance, Brodie Smith, Jarryn Geary , Sam Colquhoun, Tom McDonald, Daniel Nicholson, Josh Bootsma, Ben Stratton, Sam Frost, Maverick Weller, Seb Tape, Rory Thompson, Niall McKeever, Peter Yagmoor, Joel Wilkinson, Tanner Smith)
Midfielders:
Dylan Shiel, Oliver Wines, Thomas Sheridan, Sam Dunell, Bradley McKenzie, Liam Shiels, Matt White, Jamie Bennell
Rucks:
Billy Longer, Ben Mabon
Forwards:
Joshua Green, Johnathon Patton, Jared Petrenko, Sam Day, Scott Gumbleton, Ayden Kennedy,
Please spam me with Inboxes
Is it worth me trying again? The Crabs want to do a deal mate.
Rids the only players that I want are not available. Or I have to over pay for someone like Treloar
Not sure if a ruckman who has played 8 games and an early draft pick is over paying for a 20 year old who averaged 120 in 2013.
Longer is a gun, needs to be a good offer as I have no depth
Quote from: whatlez on October 24, 2013, 09:39:35 AM
Longer is a gun, needs to be a good offer as I have no depth
Longer is currently number 2 at Brisbane behind potentially the best ruckman in the league for his age. If he goes to the Saints he then if fighting for a spot with Hickey. We all know how well the McEvoy and Hickey combo went last year. Agree Longer has decent potential but is no way first team or close to a gun.
Treloar is a ripper! The thing that interests me is that you are offering half their team for a 23 year old mid in Cotch but you aren't willing to pay for a 20 year old mid who averaged 4 pts less than Cotchin in 2013.
Well Cotchin did ave 145 last year. Treloar I could use, but like I said Longer is my only back up ruckman.
Quote from: whatlez on October 24, 2013, 09:34:48 AM
Rids the only players that I want are not available. Or I have to over pay for someone like Treloar
I've kinda gotta agree here - if Steven, Crouch, O'Meara, Treloar, Adams, Grigg aren't available idk who to chase from your team :P
Quote from: Toga on October 24, 2013, 09:52:07 AM
Quote from: whatlez on October 24, 2013, 09:34:48 AM
Rids the only players that I want are not available. Or I have to over pay for someone like Treloar
I've kinda gotta agree here - if Steven, Crouch, O'Meara, Treloar, Adams, Grigg aren't available idk who to chase from your team :P
I think most would agree that Malceski for either Treloar or Prestia might struggle to get done :P
Quote from: RidleyU on October 24, 2013, 09:59:54 AM
Quote from: Toga on October 24, 2013, 09:52:07 AM
Quote from: whatlez on October 24, 2013, 09:34:48 AM
Rids the only players that I want are not available. Or I have to over pay for someone like Treloar
I've kinda gotta agree here - if Steven, Crouch, O'Meara, Treloar, Adams, Grigg aren't available idk who to chase from your team :P
I think most would agree that Malceski for either Treloar or Prestia might struggle to get done :P
Hahaha, everyone is seeking a bargain
Quote from: whatlez on October 24, 2013, 09:49:00 AM
Well Cotchin did ave 145 last year. Treloar I could use, but like I said Longer is my only back up ruckman.
If that is the case then maybe you need to remove Longer from your trade bait posts :P
I also love Cotchin and the Crabs have been in discussions as well with the Moes in regards to his services as should every AXV coach ;)
Quote from: whatlez on October 24, 2013, 10:01:32 AM
Quote from: RidleyU on October 24, 2013, 09:59:54 AM
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I think most would agree that Malceski for either Treloar or Prestia might struggle to get done :P
Hahaha, everyone is seeking a bargain
Zac Smith (coming off an ACL) for Motlop might also be seen as optimistic at best lol ::)
Quote from: RidleyU on October 24, 2013, 09:59:54 AM
I think most would agree that Malceski for either Treloar or Prestia might struggle to get done :P
I never said that, I asked if he interested you. And said that I was interested in Prestia and Treloar.
I think most would agree that Jared Polec, Jesse Lonergan, Seb Ross or any of your other mids that "are available" for Dixon might struggle to get a deal done. ;)
Treloar and Grigg are unavailable, but they are offered??
Quote from: Toga on October 24, 2013, 10:12:41 AM
Quote from: RidleyU on October 24, 2013, 09:59:54 AM
I think most would agree that Malceski for either Treloar or Prestia might struggle to get done :P
I never said that, I asked if he interested you. And said that I was interested in Prestia and Treloar.
I think most would agree that Jared Polec, Jesse Lonergan, Seb Ross or any of your other mids that "are available" for Dixon might struggle to get a deal done. ;)
Haha! We must be remembering the wrong discussion as I remember Prestia being part of the proposed deal lol
Quote from: whatlez on October 24, 2013, 10:16:07 AM
Treloar and Grigg are unavailable, but they are offered??
I have never said either of those 2 guys are unavailable :o
Soooo much confusion/banter!
Quote from: elephants on October 24, 2013, 10:54:54 AM
Soooo much confusion/banter!
It's pretty hectic in here haha. :P
Gary Ablett Jnr, Scott Pendlebury, Steele Sidebottom, Tom Liberatore, Luke Parker
#banter
Quote from: Ricochet on October 24, 2013, 10:59:25 AM
Gary Ablett Jnr, Scott Pendlebury, Steele Sidebottom, Tom Liberatore, Luke Parker
#banter
Be nice and trade one of them to the Llamas for Brad Hill, Jarrad Lyons and Sam Kerridge? :P :(
GAJ and Pendles for Kerridge? :P
Stevie J (1), ROK (19) McVeigh (30), Scotty Thompson (42), Pridda (43), Coondawg (48)
All of my mids are top 50 in the comp (add Murpha to that who had a down year, should be back again next year).
#banter
None are in the league of the Crocs mids though ;)
#notbanter #fact
Haha, the highest averaging player in the game might have something to say about that 8)
#johnsonator #lads #nips
#3
#5
#27
#32
#72 ???
#banter
#thoughtParkerwashigher
#113average
Quote from: Ricochet on October 24, 2013, 11:06:01 AM
GAJ and Pendles for Kerridge? :P
Where do I sign? :o ;D
Quote from: Ricochet on October 24, 2013, 11:15:01 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 24, 2013, 11:14:12 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 24, 2013, 11:06:01 AM
GAJ and Pendles for Kerridge? :P
Where do I sign? :o ;D
Nah wouldn't pass. I better chuck in Sidey
May as well give us Libba and Lukey while you're at it. Just to be safe. ;)
All our boys will improve on their 2013 average as well :D
Quote from: elephants on October 24, 2013, 11:19:40 AM
All our boys will improve on their 2013 average as well :D
^^^ another fact ::) ::) ::)
Quote from: elephants on October 24, 2013, 11:26:51 AM
Quote from: RidleyU on October 24, 2013, 11:23:12 AM
Quote from: elephants on October 24, 2013, 11:19:40 AM
All our boys will improve on their 2013 average as well :D
^^^ another fact ::) ::) ::)
Uhhh, what?
Will take a monster effort for Gazza to improve on this year imo ;)
Quote from: RidleyU on October 24, 2013, 11:34:44 AM
Quote from: elephants on October 24, 2013, 11:26:51 AM
Quote from: RidleyU on October 24, 2013, 11:23:12 AM
Quote from: elephants on October 24, 2013, 11:19:40 AM
All our boys will improve on their 2013 average as well :D
^^^ another fact ::) ::) ::)
Uhhh, what?
Will take a monster effort for Gazza to improve on this year imo ;)
Never said it was fact, never said it was my opinion either.
Interpret it how you like ;)
Quote from: elephants on October 24, 2013, 11:10:39 AM
None are in the league of the Crocs mids though ;)
#notbanter #fact
Banter came from this comment #fact :P
*insert something about Cotchin here*
Quote from: RidleyU on October 24, 2013, 11:38:08 AM
Quote from: elephants on October 24, 2013, 11:10:39 AM
None are in the league of the Crocs mids though ;)
#notbanter #fact
Banter came from this comment #fact :P
Haha that bit was fact ;)
#thejohnsonator #beast #numbaone
#7
#13
#17
#35
Where is Tbag?
#banter
Quote from: Ricochet on October 24, 2013, 12:01:08 PM
Where is Tbag?
#banter
you guys are talking enough crap without him
Joel Selwood (#6), Matthew Boyd (#16), Nathan Fyfe (#23), Sam Mitchell (#46)
Not in the league of the Crocs' midfield, but I'll take it. :P
#hutchings51 #soclose
Hutchings not top 50? Not worth having then mate ;) #letsmakehimaCroc
Quote from: Adamant on October 24, 2013, 12:48:34 PM
Joel Selwood (#6), Matthew Boyd (#16), Nathan Fyfe (#23), Sam Mitchell (#46)
Not in the league of the Crocs' midfield, but I'll take it. :P
#hutchings51 #soclose
Whatlez' midfield is better than reigning premiers :o
someone check mine?
Cotchin
Ebert
Hanners
Mzungu
Zaharakis
Gaff
Howlett
Greenwood
plz ty.
I'm pretty sure everyone beats you and you traded Zaha
Cotchin #45
Ebert #18
Hanners #68
Mzungu #96
Zaharakis #90
Gaff #154
Howlett #103
Greenwood #85
Quote from: Ricochet on October 24, 2013, 01:13:47 PM
Cotchin #45
Ebert #18
Hanners #68
Mzungu #96
Zaharakis #90
Gaff #154
Howlett #103
Greenwood #85
cheers Ric
Lez, couldnt give two flying showers, Im not the one who hasnt done a trade.
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 24, 2013, 01:15:21 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 24, 2013, 01:13:47 PM
Cotchin #45
Ebert #18
Hanners #68
Mzungu #96
Zaharakis #90
Gaff #154
Howlett #103
Greenwood #85
cheers Ric
Lez, couldnt give two flying showers, Im not the one who hasnt done a trade.
Hahahah
(http://img.pandawhale.com/post-13652-BURN-Ashton-Kutcher-zM70.gif)
You Dont have Zaharakis anymore right?
Quote from: RidleyU on October 24, 2013, 11:34:44 AM
Quote from: elephants on October 24, 2013, 11:26:51 AM
Quote from: RidleyU on October 24, 2013, 11:23:12 AM
Quote from: elephants on October 24, 2013, 11:19:40 AM
All our boys will improve on their 2013 average as well :D
^^^ another fact ::) ::) ::)
Uhhh, what?
Will take a monster effort for Gazza to improve on this year imo ;)
Stevie J increased his average by like 25 points this year and he's a year older.
And GAJ was going at 162 this year until the last few games
#neverdoubtGAJ :P
Quote from: Ricochet on October 24, 2013, 02:24:03 PM
Quote from: RidleyU on October 24, 2013, 11:34:44 AM
Will take a monster effort for Gazza to improve on this year imo ;)
Stevie J increased his average by like 25 points this year and he's a year older.
And GAJ was going at 162 this year until the last few games
#neverdoubtGAJ :P
#inGAJRicotrusts :P
haha if we can trust GAJ who can we trust
Quote from: RidleyU on October 24, 2013, 10:02:19 AM
Quote from: whatlez on October 24, 2013, 09:49:00 AM
Well Cotchin did ave 145 last year. Treloar I could use, but like I said Longer is my only back up ruckman.
If that is the case then maybe you need to remove Longer from your trade bait posts :P
I also love Cotchin and the Crabs have been in discussions as well with the Moes in regards to his services as should every AXV coach ;)
No! We don't want to go backwards :P
Trade here between Manilla and Laos. Turns out you can trade with Whatlez :p
Manila gives: Aaron Hall + NAT pick 26
Loas gives: Alex Rance + NAT pick 22
Whatlez to confirm
Quote from: BB67th on October 24, 2013, 04:12:54 PM
Trade here between Manilla and Laos. Turns out you can trade with Whatlez :p
Manila gives: Aaron Hall + NAT pick 26
Loas gives: Alex Rance + NAT pick 22
Whatlez to confirm
massive win for Manilla there! :o
Quote from: BB67th on October 24, 2013, 04:12:54 PM
Trade here between Manilla and Laos. Turns out you can trade with Whatlez :p
Manila gives: Aaron Hall + NAT pick 26
Loas gives: Alex Rance + NAT pick 22
Whatlez to confirm
Confirm 8)
Rance is a favourite but needs forward depth. Not sure it's a massive win.
Rance and Hall average the exact same. Rance is a KPP so his scoring probably won't improve as much in the next few years as Hall's who is a goalkicker. Hence the pick upgrade.
Quote from: BB67th on October 24, 2013, 04:27:55 PM
Rance and Hall average the exact same. Rance is a KPP so his scoring probably won't improve as much in the next few years as Hall's who is a goalkicker. Hence the pick upgrade.
+1
:o :o :o
How did Lez get a trade done :P
Rance is worth more than Hall IMO, so don't know why there's a pick upgrade. But considering Lez is desperate for forwards it isn't too bad.
Quote from: BB67th on October 24, 2013, 04:12:54 PM
Trade here between Manilla and Laos. Turns out you can trade with Whatlez :p
Manila gives: Aaron Hall + NAT pick 26
Loas gives: Alex Rance + NAT pick 22
Whatlez to confirm
Damn it whatlez, you're not supposed to be giving Manila defenders. That was their weak point. :P
Quote from: JROO8 on October 24, 2013, 04:46:41 PM
:o :o :o
How did Lez get a trade done :P
Rance is worth more than Hall IMO, so don't know why there's a pick upgrade. But considering Lez is desperate for forwards it isn't too bad.
If this was a SC game or even a DT one then I'd agree but in SportsBet I think Hall wins. Tackles and goals more valuable. Although there are more good forwards in this game then decent defenders so that balances it out somewhat.
Quote from: Memphistopheles on October 24, 2013, 05:46:53 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 24, 2013, 04:46:41 PM
:o :o :o
How did Lez get a trade done :P
Rance is worth more than Hall IMO, so don't know why there's a pick upgrade. But considering Lez is desperate for forwards it isn't too bad.
If this was a SC game or even a DT one then I'd agree but in SportsBet I think Hall wins. Tackles and goals more valuable. Although there are more good forwards in this game then decent defenders so that balances it out somewhat.
Fair enough, forwards > defenders. I was just saying I think Rance is better than Hall. But it's not too bad, Lez needs forwards so I guess it's fine. I just see Hall as a bit of a spud, or fringe player at the Suns and Rance to improve his output slightly next year.
Hall did play 22 games this year. He definitely has a spot in the team.
And kicked 30 goals. I agree with BB67th.
Probably their best small forward this season (Ablett doesn't count :P) and as the team gets better so should he. Better than Josh Green anyway who is listed at F4 in the elephants thread.
Lol Green. Yeah I'm hoping to get another trade or two. I got Jack Watts as well. Lets hope Gumby moves to Freo tomorrow and then happy days.
Rance is like tied in my top 4. I see him getting slightly edged next season in my starters with Harwood, Smith and others killing it.
Why is everyone so stubborn!! I've sent so many offers yesterday and go no replies :(
Does anyone have a spare forward depth player who I can trade for a depth defender?
Quote from: whatlez on October 25, 2013, 11:23:00 AM
Why is everyone so stubborn!! I've sent so many offers yesterday and go no replies :(
Jelwood isn't going anywhere. :P
Quote from: whatlez on October 25, 2013, 11:25:43 AM
Does anyone have a spare forward depth player who I can trade for a depth defender?
I have fwd depth... But would prefer a depth ruck in return :P
Well that was quick Jay - ruck depth achieved :P
Deal between Dolphins and Strikers has been reached.
Overall deal: Strikers give Guthrie + Rosa FOR Lycett + Mcglynn + NAT 28 from the Dolphins
We would like to split this deal over the trade periods even though it should be possibly to complete it in this one. Reason for this well be revealed in due course by me.
So like this.
This period
Dolphins give: Scott Lycett+ NAT 28
Strikers give: Matt Rosa
Once the above has been done both the Strikers and Dolphins should gain back a full list movement each for this trade period. Reason is I originally traded Rosa to Jayman and he originally traded me Lycett as part of an earlier deal. So one in/out back for each of us.
Next period
Dolphins give: Ben McGlynn
Strikers give: Cameron Guthrie
Confirm. :)
The Dolphins are busy, busy, busy with our list rebuild and have arranged another deal.
Full deal: Laos Elephants give Sam Colquhoun+Scott Gumbleton+Rookie 22+Rookie 38 for Jordan Lewis+Rookie 28+Rookie 44 from the Taiwan Dolphins.
We did get one list movement back in the previous deal with the Strikers but because we only have one this deal also has to be over both trade periods.
This period:
Elephants give: Scott Gumbleton+Rookie 22+Rookie 38
Dolphins give: Jordan Lewis+Rookie 28+Rookie 44
Next period:
Elephants give: Sam Colquhoun.
We're swapping a genuine fwd/mid premium for two unproven but talented players and a couple of slight moves up the rookie draft order. Fits in with our list rebuild nicely.
For anyone that is wondering - the reason we are doing most/all of our trading now instead of waiting for trade period II is as follows.
Because we will be drafting so many players this season I wanted to get our list sorted and set before the drafts so I have an idea of which types of players to draft (def/mid/fwd/ruc).
Also with this in mind we want to get the best picks we can - hence the upgrades in this deal.
I'l wait for the admins to confirm and process everything but, I believe we should now have 1 more in and 2 more outs left for the second trade period following today's deals.
I won't lie - the players we are looking to move out are probably Adcock and Stokes and in return we are interested in high draft picks and good young defenders. If you're interested let me know.
Confirmed 8)
Nice deal for Lez, didn't lose anyone from you Best XV yet you bring in a gun forward. Your team isn't that bad.
But flower you, Lewis should've been mine :P
All I know is my deal was better than yours :P
We had Lewis once...
Quote from: elephants on October 25, 2013, 06:52:07 PM
We had Lewis once...
He's moved more clubs than pick 48.
Quote from: whatlez on October 25, 2013, 06:51:23 PM
All I know is my deal was better than yours :P
Both deals were very good and quite evenly matched to be honest. Very hard decision - Gumbleton at a new club with Freo midfield vs Lee at Saints and a brigade of youngsters was the clincher really.
Although the Saints could be challenging by the time we are - though I'm hoping we're not down for that long.
New look backline of Guthrie, Colquhoun, Tuohy and whoever we get for Adcock if he's traded. Plus a heap of older, playing depth guys - Patfull, J Hunt, McMahon and some youth - N Wright, S Wright.
Quote from: whatlez on October 25, 2013, 06:51:23 PM
All I know is my deal was better than yours :P
flower off, I thought mine was better :P
It was similar but Memph really liked Gumby :o
Quote from: tabs on October 24, 2013, 01:01:33 AM
Quote from: Adamant on October 24, 2013, 12:53:01 AM
This Period:
Bangladesh give: Nat #48
PNG give:
Next Period:
Bangladesh give: Michael Evans
PNG give: Andrew Carrazzo
tabs to confirm.
tabs confirming
APPROVEDAs I don't yet have Mod powers, I will post reasoning for the trade being passed here and update the OP later on.
Reasoning: Pretty even trade here. Proven performer in Carrazzo who has had injury worries over the last couple of seasons so his currency is devalued. Evans looks to have good potential and the pick evens things out a bit.
Just so everyone knows how the trade approval is working between us, it's happening like this. We both have the power to approve a trade if we see it as clearly even and disadvantaging neither coach involved or the competition as a whole. If either of us has a problem with any trade, we will take it to the other and then discuss whether or not it should be approved.
Also Colli and I have decided that to avoid any conflict of interest, when one of us makes a trade the other will approve or disapprove it.
Quote from: Memphistopheles on October 25, 2013, 06:21:31 PM
Well that was quick Jay - ruck depth achieved :P
Deal between Dolphins and Strikers has been reached.
Overall deal: Strikers give Guthrie + Rosa FOR Lycett + Mcglynn + NAT 28 from the Dolphins
We would like to split this deal over the trade periods even though it should be possibly to complete it in this one. Reason for this well be revealed in due course by me.
So like this.
This period
Dolphins give: Scott Lycett+ NAT 28
Strikers give: Matt Rosa
Once the above has been done both the Strikers and Dolphins should gain back a full list movement each for this trade period. Reason is I originally traded Rosa to Jayman and he originally traded me Lycett as part of an earlier deal. So one in/out back for each of us.
Next period
Dolphins give: Ben McGlynn
Strikers give: Cameron Guthrie
APPROVEDReasoning: I feel that this trade is a little uneven in favour of the Strikers, but not uneven enough to not allow through. Based on averages and potential, I feel that Guthrie and Lycett just about cancel each other out. That leaves Rosa for McGlynn and pick 28. Rosa had a poor year this year struggling with injury and if he can get back to his best scoring he will be a solid midfield player. McGlynn is a goalkicker so he will continue to score well and the pick does make it slightly uneven, but not by a margin that advantages one team over another by too great a margin.
Quote from: Memphistopheles on October 25, 2013, 06:43:26 PM
The Dolphins are busy, busy, busy with our list rebuild and have arranged another deal.
Full deal: Laos Elephants give Sam Colquhoun+Scott Gumbleton+Rookie 22+Rookie 38 for Jordan Lewis+Rookie 28+Rookie 44 from the Taiwan Dolphins.
We did get one list movement back in the previous deal with the Strikers but because we only have one this deal also has to be over both trade periods.
This period:
Elephants give: Scott Gumbleton+Rookie 22+Rookie 38
Dolphins give: Jordan Lewis+Rookie 28+Rookie 44
Next period:
Elephants give: Sam Colquhoun.
We're swapping a genuine fwd/mid premium for two unproven but talented players and a couple of slight moves up the rookie draft order. Fits in with our list rebuild nicely.
For anyone that is wondering - the reason we are doing most/all of our trading now instead of waiting for trade period II is as follows.
Because we will be drafting so many players this season I wanted to get our list sorted and set before the drafts so I have an idea of which types of players to draft (def/mid/fwd/ruc).
Also with this in mind we want to get the best picks we can - hence the upgrades in this deal.
I'l wait for the admins to confirm and process everything but, I believe we should now have 1 more in and 2 more outs left for the second trade period following today's deals.
I won't lie - the players we are looking to move out are probably Adcock and Stokes and in return we are interested in high draft picks and good young defenders. If you're interested let me know.
APPROVEDReasoning: Another fairly easy trade to approve here. Lewis is a proven premium, Gumbleton and Colquhoun are two players that will be solid depth as they develop and the picks also even things out a little.
Ales give: Shane Edwards + Rook 24
Tigers give: Thomas Bugg + Rook 58
JB to confirm
Sad to see this guy go, but think it's for the best, as I felt that my midfield depth was a bit shaky. Here we go:
MONGOLIAN LAMBS give: Jack Riewoldt + Jack Newnes
UAE TIGERS give: Hamish Hartlett + Chris Knights
JROO8 to confirm.
I know Hartlett will be mid only this year but he will slot nicely into a utility position, while the loss of Jack Roo is (slightly) softened by adding Knights to our forward line if he's fit. I think our forwards are a strength of ours however and think that we will be able to cope with the loss of Riewoldt as Charlie Dixon will be moving from our defense to the forward line this season.
**EDIT: Due to JROO's list movement situation I think we have to process this trade in the second trade period...
That trade took like 2 weeks to finally get agreed on hahaha
Quote from: whatlez on October 26, 2013, 11:12:53 AM
That trade took like 2 weeks to finally get agreed on hahaha
It wasn't that long ::)
I didn't mind giving up Hartlett to get Jroo, it was just I would've rather on-traded another mid so I can keep a list movement.
JB isn't known for doing trades against him :P ;)
Just edited the post, this deal will have to go through in the second period because of LM restrictions (on JROO's behalf :P)
Sells Jroo to get Scooter Selwood.
Nek year
Sells Jroo to get Hartlett + Knights.
Hmmm?
Quote from: Toga on October 26, 2013, 11:11:25 AM
Sad to see this guy go, but think it's for the best, as I felt that my midfield depth was a bit shaky. Here we go:
MONGOLIAN LAMBS give: Jack Riewoldt + Jack Newnes
UAE TIGERS give: Hamish Hartlett + Chris Knights
JROO8 to confirm.
I know Hartlett will be mid only this year but he will slot nicely into a utility position, while the loss of Jack Roo is (slightly) softened by adding Knights to our forward line if he's fit. I think our forwards are a strength of ours however and think that we will be able to cope with the loss of Riewoldt as Charlie Dixon will be moving from our defense to the forward line this season.
**EDIT: Due to JROO's list movement situation I think we have to process this trade in the second trade period...
Confirmed, Jroo would like to welcome Jroo :D 8)
Quote from: whatlez on October 26, 2013, 11:18:36 AM
Sells Jroo to get Scooter Selwood.
Nek year
Sells Jroo to get Hartlett + Knights.
Hmmm?
Whut?
Quote from: JROO8 on October 26, 2013, 11:09:00 AM
Ales give: Shane Edwards + Rook 24
Tigers give: Thomas Bugg + Rook 58
JB to confirm
Confirm
Quote from: Toga on October 26, 2013, 11:21:38 AM
Quote from: whatlez on October 26, 2013, 11:18:36 AM
Sells Jroo to get Scooter Selwood.
Nek year
Sells Jroo to get Hartlett + Knights.
Hmmm?
Whut?
I got Selwood off you in a straight swap for Jroo. Then you trade him next year for Hartlett and Knights...
So what are you saying wins? ???
Quote from: Toga on October 26, 2013, 12:06:10 PM
So what are you saying wins? ???
Not sure... That's why I went 'Hmmm'
Probably Scooter's 142 ave.
Oh right haha I thought you might be saying it was either a bad trade or a trade rape but I didn't think it was either :P
Scooter has the higher avg atm but HHart was 110 this year, has room for improvement... While Knights could be a gun if he stays fit, but it's a big if :-\
Scooter came 7th in midfielders this year.
Meh not bad.
Obviously getting Scooter was a big win but that's looking at it in hindsight ;)
Quote from: JROO8 on October 26, 2013, 11:19:03 AM
Quote from: Toga on October 26, 2013, 11:11:25 AM
Sad to see this guy go, but think it's for the best, as I felt that my midfield depth was a bit shaky. Here we go:
MONGOLIAN LAMBS give: Jack Riewoldt + Jack Newnes
UAE TIGERS give: Hamish Hartlett + Chris Knights
JROO8 to confirm.
I know Hartlett will be mid only this year but he will slot nicely into a utility position, while the loss of Jack Roo is (slightly) softened by adding Knights to our forward line if he's fit. I think our forwards are a strength of ours however and think that we will be able to cope with the loss of Riewoldt as Charlie Dixon will be moving from our defense to the forward line this season.
**EDIT: Due to JROO's list movement situation I think we have to process this trade in the second trade period...
Confirmed, Jroo would like to welcome Jroo :D 8)
Nice trade guys, JRoo gets his man while Toga adds a young quality mid and handy forward (if fit) to his squad.
After quite a bit of negotiating and going back and forward.
KATHMANDU GIVE: Trent Cotchin
BANGKOK GIVE: Harry O'Brien + Jared Polec + Rook 3
Nost to confirm.
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 26, 2013, 02:33:45 PM
After quite a bit of negotiating and going back and forward.
KATHMANDU GIVE: Trent Cotchin
BANGKOK GIVE: Harry O'Brien + Jared Polec + Rook 3
Nost to confirm.
confirmed 8)
Quote from: nostradamus on October 26, 2013, 02:34:24 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 26, 2013, 02:33:45 PM
After quite a bit of negotiating and going back and forward.
KATHMANDU GIVE: Trent Cotchin
BANGKOK GIVE: Harry O'Brien + Jared Polec + Rook 3
Nost to confirm.
confirmed 8)
Excellent work guys!
Quick explanation of this trade...
Bangkok was after a captain choice that also fitted our age focus of the team. Nost and I believe that Cotchin is perfect in regards to meeting these needs.
Kathmandu required a premium back that complimented their other backs and Harry O fitted that bill. Polec was taken with pick 5 a few drafts ago, never got the opportunity to have constant football and will no doubt be a gun in 2014 and for years to come. Koops also had an eye on someone in the preseason draft so rook pick 3 was added to the deal.
All in all Nost and I think that this deal is very win win for both teams. Cheers to koops and specky for all the dealings we have had over the last few days. Been a long discussion but one that will hopefully hold both teams in good stead.
What the heck... :o
Quote from: Jayman on October 26, 2013, 02:42:18 PM
What the heck... :o
nice trade hey Jay .......very good for both teams :)
How is that better than Broadbent + Monfries? :o
^
Eskimos sold their best player.
#tanking
Clearly trying to make sure the Llamas don't get Pick 1 next year. :o
What!!
It's not too bad but surely Cotch is worth a little more.
Nice trade by Nost and Rids.
Harry O averaged just shy of 115 in 2013 and was the 8th best back for the year in averages (including Cameron Delaney who played one game and scored 119).
Polec will be one of the most selected players in fantasy footy in 2014. He will be a player for Port. Not many rated Brad Ebert a few years back and looked what he did.
No idea who koops wants with pick 3 in the rookie draft but there are some very decent players there.
Nost and Rids has done verrrry well there!!
Quote from: nostradamus on October 26, 2013, 02:44:48 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 26, 2013, 02:42:18 PM
What the heck... :o
nice trade hey Jay .......very good for both teams :)
Polec, HarryO
AND rookie pick #3
JUST for Cotchin. What a deal for the Eskimoes! :D
*sarcasm intended*
:o
Quote from: RidleyU on October 26, 2013, 02:55:20 PM
Harry O averaged just shy of 115 in 2013 and was the 8th best back for the year in averages (including Cameron Delaney who played one game and scored 119).
Polec will be one of the most selected players in fantasy footy in 2014. He will be a player for Port. Not many rated Brad Ebert a few years back and looked what he did.
No idea who koops wants with pick 3 in the rookie draft but there are some very decent players there.
Nek minnut Harry O is mid only.
Polec might not even get a game for Port ::)
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 26, 2013, 03:00:32 PM
Quote from: RidleyU on October 26, 2013, 02:55:20 PM
Harry O averaged just shy of 115 in 2013 and was the 8th best back for the year in averages (including Cameron Delaney who played one game and scored 119).
Polec will be one of the most selected players in fantasy footy in 2014. He will be a player for Port. Not many rated Brad Ebert a few years back and looked what he did.
No idea who koops wants with pick 3 in the rookie draft but there are some very decent players there.
Nek minnut Harry O is mid only.
dpp me thinks ;)
Quote from: nostradamus on October 26, 2013, 03:01:31 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 26, 2013, 03:00:32 PM
Quote from: RidleyU on October 26, 2013, 02:55:20 PM
Harry O averaged just shy of 115 in 2013 and was the 8th best back for the year in averages (including Cameron Delaney who played one game and scored 119).
Polec will be one of the most selected players in fantasy footy in 2014. He will be a player for Port. Not many rated Brad Ebert a few years back and looked what he did.
No idea who koops wants with pick 3 in the rookie draft but there are some very decent players there.
Nek minnut Harry O is mid only.
dpp me thinks ;)
Harry O played plenty of footy as loose man in defence like he did in the final. He will smash it with no Shaw in 2014.
So Koop started with Pendlebury and Dalhaus, turned them into Cotchin and Jetta last year, and now has turned Cotchin into Polec + Harry O + Rookie 3.
Long story short: Pendlebury + Dalhaus for Polec + Harry O + Rookie 3. :o
Quote from: RidleyU on October 26, 2013, 03:02:57 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on October 26, 2013, 03:01:31 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 26, 2013, 03:00:32 PM
Quote from: RidleyU on October 26, 2013, 02:55:20 PM
Harry O averaged just shy of 115 in 2013 and was the 8th best back for the year in averages (including Cameron Delaney who played one game and scored 119).
Polec will be one of the most selected players in fantasy footy in 2014. He will be a player for Port. Not many rated Brad Ebert a few years back and looked what he did.
No idea who koops wants with pick 3 in the rookie draft but there are some very decent players there.
Nek minnut Harry O is mid only.
dpp me thinks ;)
Harry O played plenty of footy as loose man in defence like he did in the final. He will get smashed by taggers with no Shaw in 2014.
fixed. Spud trade.
Quote from: Jayman on October 26, 2013, 03:01:04 PM
Polec might not even get a game for Port ::)
As long as Port have Cassisi in their best 22 then Polec will always get a game! Kid is a jet but has been very unlucky in Qld. At home now and has been training with his best mate Brodie Smith already. Expect a massive year from the kid.
Quote from: Adamant on October 26, 2013, 03:03:43 PM
So Koop started with Pendlebury and Dalhaus
I didn't know this...
Holy mother of :o :o :o
Quote from: Adamant on October 26, 2013, 03:03:43 PM
So Koop started with Pendlebury and Dalhaus, turned them into Cotchin and Jetta last year, and now has turned Cotchin into Polec + Harry O + Rookie 3.
Long story short: Pendlebury + Dalhaus for Polec + Harry O + Rookie 3. :o
Where is Jetta in the above??
Shouldn't it read Pendlebury + Dalhaus for Polec + Harry O + Jetta + Rookie 3?
Quote from: Adamant on October 26, 2013, 03:03:43 PM
So Koop started with Pendlebury and Dalhaus, turned them into Cotchin and Jetta last year, and now has turned Cotchin into Polec + Harry O + Rookie 3.
Long story short: Pendlebury + Dalhaus for Polec + Harry O + Rookie 3. :o
putting it that way is a long stretch Adamant.....are you suggesting that previous trades be considered when assessing the merits of the current one
#givemeabreak
At least coop has the top 2 places sewn up in the worst trades in AXV history award.
1. this trade
2. Blair + Masten FOR Motlop + Harper
Put them together and you get Cotchin + Blair + Masten FOR HarryO + Polec + Motlop + Harper + rook 3
That's as shocking trading as you'll ever see.
Quote from: nostradamus on October 26, 2013, 03:08:57 PM
Quote from: Adamant on October 26, 2013, 03:03:43 PM
So Koop started with Pendlebury and Dalhaus, turned them into Cotchin and Jetta last year, and now has turned Cotchin into Polec + Harry O + Rookie 3.
Long story short: Pendlebury + Dalhaus for Polec + Harry O + Rookie 3. :o
putting it that way is a long stretch Adamant.....are you suggesting that previous trades be considered when assessing the merits of the current one
#givemeabreak
No I'm not saying that at all. Just pointing out what Pendlebury + Dahl has turned into since the start. :P
Offers Wines, Shiel and pick 6. Nek minnut this trade gets accepted.
lets look at this logically boys.
Ive turned a 150 (at best) MID into a (at worst) 120 MID, 100 MID and a 85 MID, not sure what the issue is here,
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 26, 2013, 03:16:44 PM
lets look at this logically boys.
Ive turned a 150 (at best) MID into a (at worst) 120 MID, 100 MID and a 85 MID, not sure what the issue is here,
Yeah it's actually not that bad, but still I reckon you should've got a little more.
Quote from: whatlez on October 26, 2013, 03:16:29 PM
Offers Wines, Shiel and pick 6. Nek minnut this trade gets accepted.
That's a better deal IMO.
Selling Travis Boak for Zac Dawson
Oh shower Dawson isn't in a team.
#Givemerookie1
Quote from: JROO8 on October 26, 2013, 03:18:37 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 26, 2013, 03:16:44 PM
lets look at this logically boys.
Ive turned a 150 (at best) MID into a (at worst) 120 MID, 100 MID and a 85 MID, not sure what the issue is here,
Yeah it's actually not that bad, but still I reckon you should've got a little more.Quote from: whatlez on October 26, 2013, 03:16:29 PM
Offers Wines, Shiel and pick 6. Nek minnut this trade gets accepted.
That's a better deal IMO.
Koops was after a back mate.
Quote from: whatlez on October 26, 2013, 03:16:29 PM
Offers Wines, Shiel and pick 6. Nek minnut this trade gets accepted.
That was the deal?
Quote from: specky92 on October 26, 2013, 03:21:37 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 26, 2013, 03:16:29 PM
Offers Wines, Shiel and pick 6. Nek minnut this trade gets accepted.
That was the deal?
it wasnt, but thats ok, we'll let lez go on his whinging rampage.
It wasn't?? That's what I thought what was up??
Quote from: whatlez on October 26, 2013, 03:16:29 PM
Offers Wines, Shiel and pick 6. Nek minnut this trade gets accepted.
That's a pretty fair deal for Cotchin.
Quote from: Jayman on October 26, 2013, 03:24:19 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 26, 2013, 03:16:29 PM
Offers Wines, Shiel and pick 6. Nek minnut this trade gets accepted.
That's a pretty fair deal for Cotchin.
Yeah that what I thought, but Koop did need a back as Rids said and Harry O is a star.
Sorry Koop, that's a shocker of a trade mate. :-\
Quote from: Adamant on October 26, 2013, 03:11:49 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on October 26, 2013, 03:08:57 PM
Quote from: Adamant on October 26, 2013, 03:03:43 PM
So Koop started with Pendlebury and Dalhaus, turned them into Cotchin and Jetta last year, and now has turned Cotchin into Polec + Harry O + Rookie 3.
Long story short: Pendlebury + Dalhaus for Polec + Harry O + Rookie 3. :o
putting it that way is a long stretch Adamant.....are you suggesting that previous trades be considered when assessing the merits of the current one
#givemeabreak
No I'm not saying that at all. Just pointing out what Pendlebury + Dahl has turned into since the start. :P
Koop has been thru a number of assistants over the last year for various reasons. Each seemed to have different ideas and trading strategies and this has impacted badly on his team.
Basically Koop is in rebuild mode, this trade is a very good start.
**Guys (this isnt meant for just you Jay) leave the kid alone, he loves the game and is passionate about it, we need more people like Koop involved
Quote from: JROO8 on October 26, 2013, 03:18:37 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 26, 2013, 03:16:44 PM
lets look at this logically boys.
Ive turned a 150 (at best) MID into a (at worst) 120 MID, 100 MID and a 85 MID, not sure what the issue is here,
Yeah it's actually not that bad, but still I reckon you should've got a little more.Quote from: whatlez on October 26, 2013, 03:16:29 PM
Offers Wines, Shiel and pick 6. Nek minnut this trade gets accepted.
That's a better deal IMO.
but it wasnt the deal offered lol
...
Quote from: nostradamus on October 26, 2013, 03:27:53 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 26, 2013, 03:18:37 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 26, 2013, 03:16:44 PM
lets look at this logically boys.
Ive turned a 150 (at best) MID into a (at worst) 120 MID, 100 MID and a 85 MID, not sure what the issue is here,
Yeah it's actually not that bad, but still I reckon you should've got a little more.Quote from: whatlez on October 26, 2013, 03:16:29 PM
Offers Wines, Shiel and pick 6. Nek minnut this trade gets accepted.
That's a better deal IMO.
but it wasnt the deal offered lol
Who said it wasn't the deal?? It was actually I get a third round pick. Well that's what I offered speck 2 days ago.
Quote from: whatlez on October 26, 2013, 03:23:54 PM
It wasn't?? That's what I thought what was up??
you offered that to us for a seperate deal then withdrew it lol
I didn't go after Cotchin myself so don't really care too much. One thing for sure though, the Crabs will be looking deadly very soon.
Quote from: nostradamus on October 26, 2013, 03:29:09 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 26, 2013, 03:23:54 PM
It wasn't?? That's what I thought what was up??
you offered that to us for a seperate deal then withdrew it lol
Lol that was a joke deal.
Surely you should hold onto players longer. I would of offered more tbh.
Everyone knows the trade is bad, not sure why I'm getting the heat.
Wasn't the offer just Shiel and Wines?
Koops is a great kid who is passionate about AFL . People really need to lay of him.
I found him very enthusiastic and open minded about the whole discussion. He was very clear in the direction he wanted to go with his team. Kudos for him for sticking to the plan and what he wanted. People forget that Harry O was the buzz back only 3 months ago. I also noticed he brought in Breust the other day who will be a ripper player for him. Kid is doing well and his team is looking very balanced!
As I said earlier, the trade is very much win win. It is actually Koops who wins big if Polec goes 90+ in 2014.
Id be surprised if Polec could average 85.
I thought I threw in pick 6.
This is last from me. I'm not sure why you would trade in a player like Harry O'Brien. He played 70% of the season on the wing and has a very good chance of losing defender position. If he is a mid only, trading 140-150 MID for less than 115 MID, spud kid who couldn't get a game at the Lions and rookie 3. That's what's annoyed me.
Our Pick 13 is on the table for a midfielder or forward.
Quote from: whatlez on October 26, 2013, 03:35:30 PM
Surely you should hold onto players longer. I would of offered more tbh.
Everyone knows the trade is bad, not sure why I'm getting the heat.
maybe if you had you might have got Cotch and not us........but glad you didnt, cheers for that mate 8)
DEF: Hibberd | O'Brien | Hombsch | Duryea |
MID: Ebert (c) | Hannebery (vc) | Gaff | Mzungu |
RUC: Redden
FWD: Breust | Ryder | Hendersen | A.Edwards |
UTL: Howlett | Polec
I find it a bit pathetic how last years period has been referred to here, it hurts me guys, sure I made bad calls, but to put this, in which I gain well over 100 points in averages, in the same category as that. Slightly harsh don't you think? Especially as I feel this period has been a massive success for us.
Plus I have NAT 1 and 27 as well as Rook 3 and 17, thats 4 more decent players.
P.S Youve had fun poking at me for 12 months about the Harper deal, stop now please.
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 26, 2013, 03:53:01 PM
DEF: Hibberd | O'Brien | Hombsch | Duryea |
MID: Ebert (c) | Hannebery (vc) | Gaff | Mzungu |
RUC: Redden
FWD: Breust | Ryder | Hendersen | A.Edwards |
UTL: Howlett | Polec
I find it a bit pathetic how last years period has been referred to here, it hurts me guys, sure I made bad calls, but to put this, in which I gain well over 100 points in averages, in the same category as that. Slightly harsh don't you think? Especially as I feel this period has been a massive success for us.
Plus I have NAT 1 and 27 as well as Rook 3 and 17, thats 4 more decent players.
P.S Youve had fun poking at me for 12 months about the Harper deal, stop now please.
well said Koop.....good on ya mate
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 26, 2013, 03:53:01 PM
DEF: Hibberd | O'Brien | Hombsch | Duryea |
MID: Ebert (c) | Hannebery (vc) | Gaff | Mzungu |
RUC: Redden
FWD: Breust | Ryder | Hendersen | A.Edwards |
UTL: Howlett | Polec
I find it a bit pathetic how last years period has been referred to here, it hurts me guys, sure I made bad calls, but to put this, in which I gain well over 100 points in averages, in the same category as that. Slightly harsh don't you think? Especially as I feel this period has been a massive success for us.
Plus I have NAT 1 and 27 as well as Rook 3 and 17, thats 4 more decent players.
P.S Youve had fun poking at me for 12 months about the Harper deal, stop now please.
Team is improving with every trade mate! Stick to your guns. Back yourself in.
Dont forget you have Jetta as well
I just looked at your squad Koops and think this is actually closer to your best team...
DEF: Hibberd, Harry O, Picken, Duryea
MIDS: Ebert (C), Hanners (VC), Gaff, Mzungu
RUCKS: Ryder
FWDS: Breust, Jetta, Henderson, Edwards
UTIL: Polec, Howlett
Very very solid!!!
I read above that the cotchin deal has been passed it has not.
just be careful when making comments that they are accurate and correct.
BB and I will need to discuss this one and a couple of others, before passing.
Also and more important, please feel free to voice your opinion on a trade.
HOWEVER
I do not want to see and I don't think any of us want to see people being ridiculed or attached on a personal level, if you think a trade stinks or is uneven by all means comment and say so.
If you feel it is so uneven it should not pass then you PM Myself or BB to contest it.
But please be careful not to make comments that are derogatory towards other coaches,
"Koop that deal was very uneven you lost out there mate" this is ok to say.
"koop you are the worst trader ever" things like this = not ok to say.
we are all friends here and respect each other greatly..... don't we ....
otherwise the trading and he banter is great , contentious time of the season, but should be a fun time for all.
Sorry about that Colli.
Was just trying to show some support to Koops and his team.
I'm happy with the trade... I spose, I just don't want Rids or Nost to be competitive :P
ill discuss the last few with BB and process, and i will update the lists with all approved trades by BB yesterday.
just remember if a trade is passed you do not agree with you can PM BB or I am protest the trade, if your case is strong enough or enough coached feel the same, we may reverse our decision.
Don't want to start an argument, but I reckon out side the two coaches involved and the two admins, the remaining 12, at least 80% reckon it's a bad trade for a team re-building.
Quote from: whatlez on October 26, 2013, 05:17:20 PM
Don't want to start an argument, but I reckon out side the two coaches involved and the two admins, the remaining 12, at least 80% reckon it's a bad trade for a team re-building.
a bad trade is fine.
questions is : Is it extremely uneven, does it disadvantage other teams in the comp by it's unevenness?
are the other teams aware for the purpose of this trade harry o must be viewed as a defender the 8th ranked defender ?
are the other teams aware for the purpose of this trade polec must be viewed as a pick #5 3 years in, gone to a new club - that will play him as they made no secret of the fact they DESPERATELY wanted him.
are the other teams aware for the purpose of this trade, rookie #3 in this draft is quite a valuable pick given the players available in this preseason/rookie draft left over from last seasons pool.
when considering all these things and weighing the trade - is it extremely uneven or unfair ? or is it just bad ? or is it just annoying that other coaches would have paid more but did not get the opportunity to do so ?
we will make a decision first, then other coaches who feel it is right to protest can do so via pm ONLY. With supporting evidence that it is extremely uneven and unfair to other teams.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on October 26, 2013, 05:24:12 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 26, 2013, 05:17:20 PM
Don't want to start an argument, but I reckon out side the two coaches involved and the two admins, the remaining 12, at least 80% reckon it's a bad trade for a team re-building.
a bad trade is fine.
questions is : Is it extremely uneven, does it disadvantage other teams in the comp by it's unevenness?
are the other teams aware for the purpose of this trade harry o must be viewed as a defender the 8th ranked defender ?
are the other teams aware for the purpose of this trade polec must be viewed as a pick #5 3 years in, gone to a new club - that will play him as they made no secret of the fact they DESPERATELY wanted him.
are the other teams aware for the purpose of this trade, rookie #3 in this draft is quite a valuable pick given the players available in this preseason/rookie draft left over from last seasons pool.
when considering all these things and weighing the trade - is it extremely uneven or unfair ? or is it just bad ? or is it just annoying that other coaches would have paid more but did not get the opportunity to do so ?
we will make a decision first, then other coaches who feel it is right to protest can do so via pm ONLY. With supporting evidence that it is extremely uneven and unfair to other teams.
Cheers Colli, it's nice to see some pragmatic logic brought into the argument......the above listed reasoning is exactly what was looked and when bringing this trade about.
As always, l have faith in your judgement in assessing the fairness of any trade.
**kudos to you for highlighting the treatment of Koops, it's been really bothering Rids and l too
Quote from: whatlez on October 24, 2013, 04:24:07 PM
Quote from: BB67th on October 24, 2013, 04:12:54 PM
Trade here between Manilla and Laos. Turns out you can trade with Whatlez :p
Manila gives: Aaron Hall + NAT pick 26
Loas gives: Alex Rance + NAT pick 22
Whatlez to confirm
Confirm 8)
Rance is a favourite but needs forward depth. Not sure it's a massive win.
APPROVED & PROCESSED
This'll be very interesting 8)
Quote from: BB67th on October 25, 2013, 08:52:31 PM
Quote from: tabs on October 24, 2013, 01:01:33 AM
Quote from: Adamant on October 24, 2013, 12:53:01 AM
This Period:
Bangladesh give: Nat #48
PNG give:
Next Period:
Bangladesh give: Michael Evans
PNG give: Andrew Carrazzo
tabs to confirm.
tabs confirming
APPROVED
As I don't yet have Mod powers, I will post reasoning for the trade being passed here and update the OP later on.
Reasoning: Pretty even trade here. Proven performer in Carrazzo who has had injury worries over the last couple of seasons so his currency is devalued. Evans looks to have good potential and the pick evens things out a bit.
Just so everyone knows how the trade approval is working between us, it's happening like this. We both have the power to approve a trade if we see it as clearly even and disadvantaging neither coach involved or the competition as a whole. If either of us has a problem with any trade, we will take it to the other and then discuss whether or not it should be approved.
Also Colli and I have decided that to avoid any conflict of interest, when one of us makes a trade the other will approve or disapprove it.
PROCESSED
Quote from: BB67th on October 25, 2013, 09:19:17 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on October 25, 2013, 06:21:31 PM
Well that was quick Jay - ruck depth achieved :P
Deal between Dolphins and Strikers has been reached.
Overall deal: Strikers give Guthrie + Rosa FOR Lycett + Mcglynn + NAT 28 from the Dolphins
We would like to split this deal over the trade periods even though it should be possibly to complete it in this one. Reason for this well be revealed in due course by me.
So like this.
This period
Dolphins give: Scott Lycett+ NAT 28
Strikers give: Matt Rosa
Once the above has been done both the Strikers and Dolphins should gain back a full list movement each for this trade period. Reason is I originally traded Rosa to Jayman and he originally traded me Lycett as part of an earlier deal. So one in/out back for each of us.
Next period
Dolphins give: Ben McGlynn
Strikers give: Cameron Guthrie
APPROVED
Reasoning: I feel that this trade is a little uneven in favour of the Strikers, but not uneven enough to not allow through. Based on averages and potential, I feel that Guthrie and Lycett just about cancel each other out. That leaves Rosa for McGlynn and pick 28. Rosa had a poor year this year struggling with injury and if he can get back to his best scoring he will be a solid midfield player. McGlynn is a goalkicker so he will continue to score well and the pick does make it slightly uneven, but not by a margin that advantages one team over another by too great a margin.
PROCESSEDPLEASE NOTE THIS TRADE ACTUALLY ADDS A LIST MOVEMENT IN AND OUT BACK TO BOTH TEAMS - IT IS A REVERSAL OF A PREVIOUS TRADE THEREFORE ACTUALLY GAINS BOTH CLUBS A LIST MOVEMENT BACK BOTH WAYS.
LIST MOVEMENTS REMAINING UPDATED UNDER TRADES LIST IN OPENING PAGE OF THREAD.
Quote from: BB67th on October 25, 2013, 09:27:39 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on October 25, 2013, 06:43:26 PM
The Dolphins are busy, busy, busy with our list rebuild and have arranged another deal.
Full deal: Laos Elephants give Sam Colquhoun+Scott Gumbleton+Rookie 22+Rookie 38 for Jordan Lewis+Rookie 28+Rookie 44 from the Taiwan Dolphins.
We did get one list movement back in the previous deal with the Strikers but because we only have one this deal also has to be over both trade periods.
This period:
Elephants give: Scott Gumbleton+Rookie 22+Rookie 38
Dolphins give: Jordan Lewis+Rookie 28+Rookie 44
Next period:
Elephants give: Sam Colquhoun.
We're swapping a genuine fwd/mid premium for two unproven but talented players and a couple of slight moves up the rookie draft order. Fits in with our list rebuild nicely.
For anyone that is wondering - the reason we are doing most/all of our trading now instead of waiting for trade period II is as follows.
Because we will be drafting so many players this season I wanted to get our list sorted and set before the drafts so I have an idea of which types of players to draft (def/mid/fwd/ruc).
Also with this in mind we want to get the best picks we can - hence the upgrades in this deal.
I'l wait for the admins to confirm and process everything but, I believe we should now have 1 more in and 2 more outs left for the second trade period following today's deals.
I won't lie - the players we are looking to move out are probably Adcock and Stokes and in return we are interested in high draft picks and good young defenders. If you're interested let me know.
APPROVED
Reasoning: Another fairly easy trade to approve here. Lewis is a proven premium, Gumbleton and Colquhoun are two players that will be solid depth as they develop and the picks also even things out a little.
PROCESSEDAnd there goes those Dolphins movements :)
Yes both trades accepted :D
ok of the three trades left one is easy, one is interesting, and one is challanging, will process as soon as i talk to BossBoss
all trades listed as approved and processed are updated on team lists and pick order and movements.
busy weekend.
well done to all involved, tricky business this making trades happen.
Trade Period 1
Tigers give: Rook 71
Bears give: Rook 48
Trade Period 2
Tigers give: Aaron Sandilands, Colin Sylvia, Shane Edwards
Bears give: Mark Hutchings, Mitch Robinson
Adamant to confirm.
Also Colli/BB do I only use 2 list movements out as I traded in Edwards in trade period 1?
Confirmed. :)
Cheers JRoo.
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 26, 2013, 02:33:45 PM
After quite a bit of negotiating and going back and forward.
KATHMANDU GIVE: Trent Cotchin
BANGKOK GIVE: Harry O'Brien + Jared Polec + Rook 3
Nost to confirm.
Wow, just wow.
Maybe if if was NAT 3 perhaps but like other's I'm really not sure about this one. Cotchin is a gun and still young.
Not sure it's a good trade for someone rebuilding either. Cotchin is who you build your team around not the older O'Brien.
I definitely would have offered more than that for him if given the chance. It's worth shopping your players around I think so you can get a good deal and an idea of how others value them.
As for the Harper+Motlop trade from the past - Motlop is a gun and showed it this season and averaged higher than Blair so that part of a trade is a win. He should continue to improve and IMO will be better than Blair by far.
I and Koop also expected Harper to take Boomers spot and while he hasn't shown it yet I've heard Harper likened to Stevie J before who as we all know is a jet.
Though that's only if he can get his shower together, something which obviously didn't happen last season. But, on the other side it took Masten longer to get his stuff sorted so if Harper still does then it's not the worst trade.
Quote from: Memphistopheles on October 26, 2013, 07:46:30 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 26, 2013, 02:33:45 PM
After quite a bit of negotiating and going back and forward.
KATHMANDU GIVE: Trent Cotchin
BANGKOK GIVE: Harry O'Brien + Jared Polec + Rook 3
Nost to confirm.
Wow, just wow.
Maybe if if was NAT 3 perhaps but like other's I'm really not sure about this one. Cotchin is a gun and still young.
Not sure it's a good trade for someone rebuilding either. Cotchin is who you build your team around not the older O'Brien.
I definitely would have offered more than that for him if given the chance. It's worth shopping your players around I think so you can get a good deal and an idea of how others value them.
As for the Harper+Motlop trade from the past - Motlop is a gun and showed it this season and averaged higher than Blair so that part of a trade is a win. He should continue to improve and IMO will be better than Blair by far.
I and Koop also expected Harper to take Boomers spot and while he hasn't shown it yet I've heard Harper likened to Stevie J before who as we all know is a jet.
Though that's only if he can get his shower together, something which obviously didn't happen last season. But, on the other side it took Masten longer to get his stuff sorted so if Harper still does then it's not the worst trade.
Only problem is that he traded Motlop out soon afterwoods, ironically with Nost lol.
Quote from: JROO8 on October 26, 2013, 11:09:00 AM
Ales give: Shane Edwards + Rook 24
Tigers give: Thomas Bugg + Rook 58
JB to confirm
APPROVEDReasoning: Fairly easy trade to pass here, a couple of depth players balanced with a pick swap.
Colli to process
Quote from: Toga on October 26, 2013, 11:11:25 AM
Sad to see this guy go, but think it's for the best, as I felt that my midfield depth was a bit shaky. Here we go:
MONGOLIAN LAMBS give: Jack Riewoldt + Jack Newnes
UAE TIGERS give: Hamish Hartlett + Chris Knights
JROO8 to confirm.
I know Hartlett will be mid only this year but he will slot nicely into a utility position, while the loss of Jack Roo is (slightly) softened by adding Knights to our forward line if he's fit. I think our forwards are a strength of ours however and think that we will be able to cope with the loss of Riewoldt as Charlie Dixon will be moving from our defense to the forward line this season.
**EDIT: Due to JROO's list movement situation I think we have to process this trade in the second trade period...
APPROVED FOR SECOND TRADE PERIODReasoning: Riewoldt and Hartlett are both worth quite a bit in this game for the roles that they play. Knights will score better short term, but Newnes will be better long term.
Colli to process
Just want to make sure that both of you are ok with this being in the second trade period as JROO doesn't have the list movements this period. If you don't want to commit to it being in the next period, I can reverse it.
Quote from: BB67th on October 26, 2013, 08:14:37 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 26, 2013, 11:11:25 AM
Sad to see this guy go, but think it's for the best, as I felt that my midfield depth was a bit shaky. Here we go:
MONGOLIAN LAMBS give: Jack Riewoldt + Jack Newnes
UAE TIGERS give: Hamish Hartlett + Chris Knights
JROO8 to confirm.
I know Hartlett will be mid only this year but he will slot nicely into a utility position, while the loss of Jack Roo is (slightly) softened by adding Knights to our forward line if he's fit. I think our forwards are a strength of ours however and think that we will be able to cope with the loss of Riewoldt as Charlie Dixon will be moving from our defense to the forward line this season.
**EDIT: Due to JROO's list movement situation I think we have to process this trade in the second trade period...
APPROVED FOR SECOND TRADE PERIOD
Reasoning: Riewoldt and Hartlett are both worth quite a bit in this game for the roles that they play. Knights will score better short term, but Newnes will be better long term.
Colli to process
Just want to make sure that both of you are ok with this being in the second trade period as JROO doesn't have the list movements this period. If you don't want to commit to it being in the next period, I can reverse it.
Yep we should be fine with it, I told Toga this before he accepted it.
Quote from: JROO8 on October 26, 2013, 07:41:52 PM
Trade Period 1
Tigers give: Rook 71
Bears give: Rook 48
Trade Period 2
Tigers give: Aaron Sandilands, Colin Sylvia, Shane Edwards
Bears give: Mark Hutchings, Mitch Robinson
Adamant to confirm.
Also Colli/BB do I only use 2 list movements out as I traded in Edwards in trade period 1?
APPROVEDReasoning: Again pretty even here, Sandi and Sylvia should do better next year, but Hutchings looks like he will become a very good player.
Colli to process
I'm not too sure on the list movement situation there. I would say that it would still count as 3 as the two list movement groups are separate groups of 5, not a collective of 10 in the way I interpret it. But will have to confer with Colli on that one.
As for the Cotchin trade, there has been a bit of debate about it, and Colli has received several protests via pm about the trade. If there is anyone else that thinks the trade is
largely uneven and benefits one team over another too much then please send a pm to both me and Colli and we can address your concerns.
Let me again stress that the rule is not all trades have to be 100% equal. It is that a trade will not be allowed through if it is largely uneven and provides an advantage to one club that hurts the rest of the competition. The rule is not that a coach could have gotten a better deal or that my deal was better, therefore this one should not go through. Not saying that is the case with what anyone has already said here, but please consider that before lodging a complaint.
Quote from: BB67th on October 26, 2013, 08:19:02 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 26, 2013, 07:41:52 PM
Trade Period 1
Tigers give: Rook 71
Bears give: Rook 48
Trade Period 2
Tigers give: Aaron Sandilands, Colin Sylvia, Shane Edwards
Bears give: Mark Hutchings, Mitch Robinson
Adamant to confirm.
Also Colli/BB do I only use 2 list movements out as I traded in Edwards in trade period 1?
APPROVED
Reasoning: Again pretty even here, Sandi and Sylvia should do better next year, but Hutchings looks like he will become a very good player.
Colli to process
I'm not too sure on the list movement situation there. I would say that it would still count as 3 as the two list movement groups are separate groups of 5, not a collective of 10 in the way I interpret it. But will have to confer with Colli on that one.
As for the Cotchin trade, there has been a bit of debate about it, and Colli has received several protests via pm about the trade. If there is anyone else that thinks the trade is largely uneven and benefits one team over another too much then please send a pm to both me and Colli and we can address your concerns.
Let me again stress that the rule is not all trades have to be 100% equal. It is that a trade will not be allowed through if it is largely uneven and provides an advantage to one club that hurts the rest of the competition. The rule is not that a coach could have gotten a better deal or that my deal was better, therefore this one should not go through. Not saying that is the case with what anyone has already said here, but please consider that before lodging a complaint.
Okay, but last year we were allowed to on-trade players who we traded in from trade period one without it using a list movement.
Quote from: JROO8 on October 26, 2013, 08:24:14 PM
Quote from: BB67th on October 26, 2013, 08:19:02 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 26, 2013, 07:41:52 PM
Trade Period 1
Tigers give: Rook 71
Bears give: Rook 48
Trade Period 2
Tigers give: Aaron Sandilands, Colin Sylvia, Shane Edwards
Bears give: Mark Hutchings, Mitch Robinson
Adamant to confirm.
Also Colli/BB do I only use 2 list movements out as I traded in Edwards in trade period 1?
APPROVED
Reasoning: Again pretty even here, Sandi and Sylvia should do better next year, but Hutchings looks like he will become a very good player.
Colli to process
I'm not too sure on the list movement situation there. I would say that it would still count as 3 as the two list movement groups are separate groups of 5, not a collective of 10 in the way I interpret it. But will have to confer with Colli on that one.
As for the Cotchin trade, there has been a bit of debate about it, and Colli has received several protests via pm about the trade. If there is anyone else that thinks the trade is largely uneven and benefits one team over another too much then please send a pm to both me and Colli and we can address your concerns.
Let me again stress that the rule is not all trades have to be 100% equal. It is that a trade will not be allowed through if it is largely uneven and provides an advantage to one club that hurts the rest of the competition. The rule is not that a coach could have gotten a better deal or that my deal was better, therefore this one should not go through. Not saying that is the case with what anyone has already said here, but please consider that before lodging a complaint.
Okay, but last year we were allowed to on-trade players who we traded in from trade period one without it using a list movement.
Ah, alright, maybe that is the case then. As I said I'm not too sure, so it will probably be the same as it was last year.
Quote from: BB67th on October 26, 2013, 08:25:04 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 26, 2013, 08:24:14 PM
Quote from: BB67th on October 26, 2013, 08:19:02 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 26, 2013, 07:41:52 PM
Trade Period 1
Tigers give: Rook 71
Bears give: Rook 48
Trade Period 2
Tigers give: Aaron Sandilands, Colin Sylvia, Shane Edwards
Bears give: Mark Hutchings, Mitch Robinson
Adamant to confirm.
Also Colli/BB do I only use 2 list movements out as I traded in Edwards in trade period 1?
APPROVED
Reasoning: Again pretty even here, Sandi and Sylvia should do better next year, but Hutchings looks like he will become a very good player.
Colli to process
I'm not too sure on the list movement situation there. I would say that it would still count as 3 as the two list movement groups are separate groups of 5, not a collective of 10 in the way I interpret it. But will have to confer with Colli on that one.
As for the Cotchin trade, there has been a bit of debate about it, and Colli has received several protests via pm about the trade. If there is anyone else that thinks the trade is largely uneven and benefits one team over another too much then please send a pm to both me and Colli and we can address your concerns.
Let me again stress that the rule is not all trades have to be 100% equal. It is that a trade will not be allowed through if it is largely uneven and provides an advantage to one club that hurts the rest of the competition. The rule is not that a coach could have gotten a better deal or that my deal was better, therefore this one should not go through. Not saying that is the case with what anyone has already said here, but please consider that before lodging a complaint.
Okay, but last year we were allowed to on-trade players who we traded in from trade period one without it using a list movement.
Ah, alright, maybe that is the case then. As I said I'm not too sure, so it will probably be the same as it was last year.
Okay cheers, it is a little confusing. We'll see what Colli has to say.
i will have to check last seasons trade lists, i cannot remember, but the rule has not been changed during this end of season review so whatever happened last season will happen the same way again this season.
I will advise as soon as I check but I have a feeling JROO may be correct.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on October 26, 2013, 08:52:57 PM
i will have to check last seasons trade lists, i cannot remember, but the rule has not been changed during this end of season review so whatever happened last season will happen the same way again this season.
I will advise as soon as I check but I have a feeling JROO may be correct.
JROO is correct - on trading players traded in does not count over both periods.
for the purpose of trading players in and out that you have already traded for , both trade periods are considered one.
if this makes , sense, if it doesn't JROO can explain it :)
Alright everyone, here is an update on how things are looking with the Cotchin trade. The trade being:
KATHMANDU GIVE: Trent Cotchin
BANGKOK GIVE: Harry O'Brien + Jared Polec + Rook 3
Now me and Colli have discussed the trade at length and looked at whether we would allow it through barring any protests. We both arrived at yes, it would be approved for these reasons:
A few people have voiced concerns that this trade will make the Eskimos uncompetitive. I actually believe it makes the team a slightly better and more competitive. He still has two solid captaincy options in Ebert and Hannebery so there is no loss there. His best XV goes from
DEF: Michael Hibberd | Jack Hombsch | Taylor Duryea | Liam Picken
MID: Trent Cotchin | Brad Ebert | Daniel Hannebery | Andrew Gaff
RUC: Jarrad Redden
FWD: Paddy Ryder | Luke Breust | Lachie Hendersen | Lewis Jetta
UTL: Tendai Mzungu | Ben Howlett
to
DEF: Hibberd | O'Brien | Hombsch | Duryea |
MID: Ebert (c) | Hannebery (vc) | Gaff | Mzungu |
RUC: Redden
FWD: Breust | Ryder | Hendersen | A.Edwards |
UTL: Howlett | Polec
And I'm sure rookie 3 will be in the best XVIII at least, if not XV.
And then let's look at averages. Cotchin averaged 122.48, while Harry averaged 114.44. Harry was the 7th highest averaging defender I believe, which makes him D1 or D2 in every single team in the competition. Now people might say that their scoring will change next year, but no one really knows that. The best indicator for scores in the future is the most recent scores, and these are the most recent available. I also think that O'Brien is practically no chance of losing his Defender status as he still spent a lot of the time in the backline this year. Personally I think he will be given DPP status.
Based on those above reasons, we both felt that the trade could go through. Now I am aware that Koop probably could have gotten a better offer for Cotchin if he shopped around more, but that should have absolutely no affect on the trade being approved or not. There is no rule about that, the rule is that a trade will not be approved if it a) advantages one team over another greatly or b) disadvantages the competition as a whole. I believe I have addressed those 2 concerns above. Remember that it is Koop's team and he has the right to accept which trade he feels is best for his team, and if this is the one he decides to go with, we should respect that decision.
Now Colli and I have received several protests against the trade to this point. Now that Colli and I have had a chance to go through it and we both believe it should go through, I urge those that have protested to consider the above points, and if they still think the trade should not go through, pm us again with a specific reason why it should not go through. I am willing to leave this open for some time as not all coaches have been online recently, and on a topic that has been so contentious so far, I'd like others to have their say as well.
I am not a strong believer in disapproving trades unless there is either a very valid reason for it or enough coaches provide their own reason for it, so we will see what happens from here.
And sorry that this post is so long :P
So its been approved?
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 26, 2013, 09:43:02 PM
So its been approved?
At this stage no. Colli and I both would be ok with approving it, but seeing as we have already had several coaches express concerns at the trade, we would like to see what their specific concerns with it are and how many feel the same way. We don't plan to take it to a vote yet, but we will see how many people feel the need to protest against the trade.
Quote from: BB67th on October 26, 2013, 09:47:15 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 26, 2013, 09:43:02 PM
So its been approved?
At this stage no. Colli and I both would be ok with approving it, but seeing as we have already had several coaches express concerns at the trade, we would like to see what their specific concerns with it are and how many feel the same way. We don't plan to take it to a vote yet, but we will see how many people feel the need to protest against the trade.
ok rightio, that makes sense.
To throw it out there, I would prefer it to get approved just cause Rids and Nost will be easier to trade with, but that's just my selfish reasons. Lol.
Just goes to show the differences between comps! In WXV, my trade of Nicholls FOR Jenkins + pick 8 got negged... That would've certainly passed in here and the Cotch deal would be certainly negged I'm WXV.
I like the system we have here much better and I back BBwobblers to make the right call on the trade. If that's to pass it, then I'm fine with that :)
Could be a valuable lesson for Kathmandu as well to learn to shop around a bit more ;)
I agree, World's technique is terrible.
Quote from: nostradamus on October 26, 2013, 02:34:24 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 26, 2013, 02:33:45 PM
After quite a bit of negotiating and going back and forward.
KATHMANDU GIVE: Trent Cotchin
BANGKOK GIVE: Harry O'Brien + Jared Polec + Rook 3
Nost to confirm.
confirmed 8)
APPROVEDReasoning for approving has already been stated above. Colli and I have decided that we both feel that the trade should pass, and being the admins of the comp, the trade will go through. In the end we feel the trade is even enough, and if we have to cop it for allow it through later, then we will.
Colli to process.
Time to talk to Nost and Rids.
Verrrry Interesting
Kudos to both Colli and BB for making the tough call in the face of obvious opposition. As always your impartiality and commitment to integrity of the comp shines through.
Well done guys
We really do have the best run comp and Admins in all of the XVs
you have to remember that polec averaged 123 SC points over the entire u18 championships before being drafted.
and you have to remember that the lions are second only to Melbourne for failing to develop a photo much less a player over the past few seasons.
how many left this season?
we could go over this all season but at the end of the day it is within the guidelines to pass and so it has.
the winner of the trade seems clear but we will see, i also have expectations for harry o to stay back with heater leaving and young coming in on the wing, and harry freed up for AXVS should remain a top 10 defender.
rook #3 - lets see what koop has in mind.
and remember please regardless of what you think of the trade, I don't want to see koop getting a hard time on here, he is someone we all like and want around, not someone we want to run down and put shower on.
just think of the person before you make harsh comments. or else ;)
Quote from: nostradamus on October 26, 2013, 10:47:56 PM
Kudos to both Colli and BB for making the tough call in the face of obvious opposition. As always your impartiality and commitment to integrity of the comp shines through.
Well done guys
We really do have the best run comp and Admins in all of the XVs
and BXV ;D
#lurking
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 26, 2013, 11:00:36 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on October 26, 2013, 10:47:56 PM
Kudos to both Colli and BB for making the tough call in the face of obvious opposition. As always your impartiality and commitment to integrity of the comp shines through.
Well done guys
We really do have the best run comp and Admins in all of the XVs
and BXV ;D
#lurking
l always suspected you were a lurker KB lol
he wouldn't have said the part about the admins if ringo os and H were in the room ;D
but we are the best comp :)
Quote from: Colliwobblers on October 26, 2013, 11:02:44 PM
he wouldn't have said the part about the admins if ringo os and H were in the room ;D
but we are the best comp :)
nah i'm not in it so it's not the best lol
well i am an assistant at the Ales
JROO been trying to get JPK lol
I think I know who Koop will take with Rookie #3. But it's probably obvious anyway.
Quote from: Adamant on October 26, 2013, 11:06:05 PM
I think I know who Koop will take with Rookie #3. But it's probably obvious anyway.
any one of these still listed ( except the first two picked ) - which is why rook #3 is better this season than it sounds on paper....
http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,86920.msg1203308.html#msg1203308
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 26, 2013, 11:05:34 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on October 26, 2013, 11:02:44 PM
he wouldn't have said the part about the admins if ringo os and H were in the room ;D
but we are the best comp :)
nah i'm not in it so it's not the best lol
well i am an assistant at the Ales
JROO been trying to get JPK lol
KB!!!
You weren't many to tell anyone :P :-X
Quote from: JROO8 on October 26, 2013, 11:10:40 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 26, 2013, 11:05:34 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on October 26, 2013, 11:02:44 PM
he wouldn't have said the part about the admins if ringo os and H were in the room ;D
but we are the best comp :)
nah i'm not in it so it's not the best lol
well i am an assistant at the Ales
JROO been trying to get JPK lol
KB!!!
You weren't many to tell anyone :P :-X
to bad to sad lol
I think JRoo just targets any premo that has a down season. Pretty smart actually, he screwed me last year with Martin and will probably reap the rewards again next year when Robbo goes back to being a gun lol. :P
Quote from: Adamant on October 26, 2013, 11:16:17 PM
I think JRoo just targets any premo that has a down season. Pretty smart actually, he screwed me last year with Martin and will probably reap the rewards again next year when Robbo goes back to being a gun lol. :P
yes was aware this may be the case i learnt letting go of young premo mids not a good idea hard to get back
Koop would be spewing, Zac Dawson won't last until pick 3 hahaha
Campbell Brown.
#gun
But seriously some decent talent. Shame they will be on the rookie list
Quote from: whatlez on October 26, 2013, 11:33:34 PM
Campbell Brown.
#gun
But seriously some decent talent. Shame they will be on the rookie list
not necessarily.
only afl rookie drafted players of the same draft of the same season, HAVE to go on your rookie list, all others can go on either of your lists if you have space.
Oh yeah if you have space....
Quote from: Colliwobblers on October 26, 2013, 11:37:20 PM
only afl rookie drafted players of the same draft of the same season, HAVE to go on your rookie list, all others can go on either of your lists if you have space.
good point to clarify there Colli.....think it could have caught some out
all is explained in the official draft thread.
here: http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,86920.msg1203303.html#msg1203303
Quote from: BB67th on October 26, 2013, 08:12:02 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 26, 2013, 11:09:00 AM
Ales give: Shane Edwards + Rook 24
Tigers give: Thomas Bugg + Rook 58
JB to confirm
APPROVED
Reasoning: Fairly easy trade to pass here, a couple of depth players balanced with a pick swap.
Colli to process
PROCESSED
Quote from: BB67th on October 26, 2013, 08:14:37 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 26, 2013, 11:11:25 AM
Sad to see this guy go, but think it's for the best, as I felt that my midfield depth was a bit shaky. Here we go:
MONGOLIAN LAMBS give: Jack Riewoldt + Jack Newnes
UAE TIGERS give: Hamish Hartlett + Chris Knights
JROO8 to confirm.
I know Hartlett will be mid only this year but he will slot nicely into a utility position, while the loss of Jack Roo is (slightly) softened by adding Knights to our forward line if he's fit. I think our forwards are a strength of ours however and think that we will be able to cope with the loss of Riewoldt as Charlie Dixon will be moving from our defense to the forward line this season.
**EDIT: Due to JROO's list movement situation I think we have to process this trade in the second trade period...
APPROVED FOR SECOND TRADE PERIOD
Reasoning: Riewoldt and Hartlett are both worth quite a bit in this game for the roles that they play. Knights will score better short term, but Newnes will be better long term.
Colli to process
Just want to make sure that both of you are ok with this being in the second trade period as JROO doesn't have the list movements this period. If you don't want to commit to it being in the next period, I can reverse it.
PROCESSED - Note pure trade window #2 trade and will not occur until trade window #2 opens the same as all other trades done over two periods, however given no part of this trade is in trade window #1 this can be cancelled if both parties agree to do so unlike, the trades done over both periods which cannot be cancelled.
Quote from: BB67th on October 26, 2013, 08:19:02 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 26, 2013, 07:41:52 PM
Trade Period 1
Tigers give: Rook 71
Bears give: Rook 48
Trade Period 2
Tigers give: Aaron Sandilands, Colin Sylvia, Shane Edwards
Bears give: Mark Hutchings, Mitch Robinson
Adamant to confirm.
Also Colli/BB do I only use 2 list movements out as I traded in Edwards in trade period 1?
APPROVED
Reasoning: Again pretty even here, Sandi and Sylvia should do better next year, but Hutchings looks like he will become a very good player.
Colli to process
PROCESSED
Quote from: BB67th on October 26, 2013, 10:35:30 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on October 26, 2013, 02:34:24 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 26, 2013, 02:33:45 PM
After quite a bit of negotiating and going back and forward.
KATHMANDU GIVE: Trent Cotchin
BANGKOK GIVE: Harry O'Brien + Jared Polec + Rook 3
Nost to confirm.
confirmed 8)
APPROVED
Reasoning for approving has already been stated above. Colli and I have decided that we both feel that the trade should pass, and being the admins of the comp, the trade will go through. In the end we feel the trade is even enough, and if we have to cop it for allow it through later, then we will.
Colli to process.
PROCESSED
I believe all proposed trades have been processed, if you think one has been missed please pm BB or myself or repost.
Also please be aware the deadline for delistings is the 15th of november you need to pm BB and ME and or post in the delistings thread your complete list of delistings for both lists by that deadline.
To assist us in determining the 6th round of the national draft the sooner you can do this the better.
And if you are able to please post your intended rookie promotions also in the delistings thread that will further help us to determine if we will have round 6 in the nat draft or not.
Thread: http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,86825.0.html
Thanks.
i'm bored
#randompost
Does anyone want pick 6 or my mids? I can't give these players away lol.
Not sure why I'm so keen to sell since I won't win next year...
I'll give up a whole package of my picks for NAT 6? ;)
Quote from: whatlez on October 27, 2013, 08:42:31 PM
Does anyone want pick 6 or my mids? I can't give these players away lol.
Not sure why I'm so keen to sell since I won't win next year...
why would you trade pick #6 ? you might want to say what you want for it because you could pretty much name your price...
well i said "pretty much" name your price....
steven is a little out of the field of pick #6, but leave me out of your trade rage you two :)
enjoy the battle ;)
Who else posted??
Cause I don't need the player who will pick 6. I'm going for 2015
valuable pick just saying...
not sure i have anything you would accept for it, worthless pick i guess to someone going for a flag but for a young or rebuilding team it is a lot more valuable, which is why trades are not as easy as they seem to process at times...
Trade period 1
Tigers give Rook 24
Vipers get Rook 24
Trade period 2
Tigers give Mark Hutchings, Jack Newnes
Vipers give Shaun Grigg, Paul Seedsman
Colli to accept
Hey Colli,
I've got a favour to ask.
Are you able to tell me/confirm the status of my list movements for the second period when you get a chance please.
It might be a little unorthodox but I'm doing all my trading this period due to wanting to pick up better/more draft picks because of all the players we'll be drafting.
Also knowing the state of my list heading into the draft will be handy.
I think I should have left 1 in and two outs for Trade Period 2. This is what I've got down as happening next period.
Part of the Ablett deal has this happening
Coniglio+Murdoch IN
Ablett+Enright OUT
Also as part of Lycett/Rosa deal
McGlynn OUT
Guthrie IN
And the Lewis/Gumby deal
Colquhoun IN
Quote from: JROO8 on October 28, 2013, 12:03:19 AM
Trade period 1
Tigers give Rook 24
Vipers get Rook 24
Trade period 2
Tigers give Mark Hutchings, Jack Newnes
Vipers give Shaun Grigg, Paul Seedsman
Colli to accept
:o
Jroo's stubbornness gets him far. I would of offered more for Seedsman and Grigg... Oh well.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on October 28, 2013, 12:02:12 AM
valuable pick just saying...
not sure i have anything you would accept for it, worthless pick i guess to someone going for a flag but for a young or rebuilding team it is a lot more valuable, which is why trades are not as easy as they seem to process at times...
I offered it to the team who's 'rebuilding' several times, buy they werent interested. So not sure
I really hope Seedsman doesn't get defender status for Colli's sake.
I still Dont know who the flower is Newnes?!? The amount of offers I've gotten from Toga then Jroo!!!
Quote from: whatlez on October 28, 2013, 12:18:30 AM
I still Dont know who the flower is Newnes?!? The amount of offers I've gotten from Toga then Jroo!!!
havent you heard the Newnes? ;)
Quote from: Adamant on October 28, 2013, 12:16:50 AM
I really hope Seedsman doesn't get defender status for Colli's sake.
l think Seedsman will get dpp .......d/m
Quote from: Memphistopheles on October 28, 2013, 12:08:00 AM
Hey Colli,
I've got a favour to ask.
Are you able to tell me/confirm the status of my list movements for the second period when you get a chance please.
It might be a little unorthodox but I'm doing all my trading this period due to wanting to pick up better/more draft picks because of all the players we'll be drafting.
Also knowing the state of my list heading into the draft will be handy.
I think I should have left 1 in and two outs for Trade Period 2. This is what I've got down as happening next period.
Part of the Ablett deal has this happening
Coniglio+Murdoch IN
Ablett+Enright OUT
Also as part of Lycett/Rosa deal
McGlynn OUT
Guthrie IN
And the Lewis/Gumby deal
Colquhoun IN
as of right now this is your list:DOLPHINS FINAL LIST Team Value (193)
SENIOR LIST
1. Gary Ablett
2. Harley Bennell
3. Corey Enright
4. Cyril Rioli
5. Matthew Kruezer
6. Jed Adcock
7. Tom Campbell
8. Nick Lower
9. Jason Porplyzia
10. Eddie Betts
11. Jordan Lewis
12. Tory Dickson
13. Ben McGlynn
14. Scott Lycett
15. Sam Wright
16. Darren Jolly
17. Clinton Jones
18. Jason Winderlich
19. Leigh Osborne
20. Kyal Horsley
21. Joel Patful
22. Matthew Stokes
23. Scott McMahon
24. Alwyn Davey
25. Ryan Lester
26. Nathan Wright
27. Cameron Richardson
28. Kyle Hardingham
29. Travis Varcoe
30. Nick Vlastuin
31. Cameron Sutcliffe
32. Joel Corey
33. Josh Hunt
34. Allan Toovey
35. Corey Dell'Olio
36. Zachary Tuohy
37. Isaac Smith
38. Jarred Brennan
39. Brett Ebert
40. Jason Blake
ROOKIE LIST
1. Nicholas Hayes
2. Cameron Ellis-Yolmen
3. Orren Stephenson
4. Jack Osborn
5. Alex Howson
6. Jordan Bourke
as of right now this is your list movements for period #1:REMAINING LIST MOVEMENTS:
Kathmandu Eskimoes ( 2 OUT ) - ( 0 IN )
Tibetan Llamas ( 2 OUT ) - ( 1 IN )
Bangkok Crabs ( 0 OUT ) - ( 1 IN )
Vietnam Vipers ( 0 )
KL Crocodiles ( 1 OUT ) - ( 3 IN )
Laos Elephants ( 3 OUT ) - ( 3 IN )
UAE Tigers ( 0 OUT ) - ( 0 IN )
Australian Ales ( 0 OUT ) - ( 1 IN )
Sri Lanka Strikers ( 3 OUT ) - ( 1 IN )
Turkey Gazelles (4 OUT ) - ( 4 IN )
PNG Head Hunters ( 0 OUT ) - ( 0 IN )
Taiwan Dolphins ( 0 OUT) - ( 0 IN )
Hong Kong Dongs ( 4 OUT ) - ( 3 IN )
Mongolian Lambs ( 3 OUT ) - ( 4 IN )
Manila Folders ( 2 OUT ) - ( 2 IN )
Bangladesh Bears ( 0 OUT) - ( 1 IN )
as of right now this is your list movements for period #2:REMAINING LIST MOVEMENTS:
Kathmandu Eskimoes
Tibetan Llamas ( 3 OUT ) - ( 3 IN )
Bangkok Crabs ( 5 )
Vietnam Vipers ( 5 )
KL Crocodiles ( 3 OUT ) - ( 3 IN )
Laos Elephants ( 4 OUT ) - ( 5 IN )
UAE Tigers (1 OUT ) - ( 1 IN )
Australian Ales ( 5 )
Sri Lanka Strikers (2 OUT ) - ( 3 IN )
Turkey Gazelles (5 )
PNG Head Hunters ( 3 OUT ) - ( 2 IN )
Taiwan Dolphins ( 2 OUT ) - ( 1 IN )
Hong Kong Dongs ( 5 )
Mongolian Lambs ( 3 OUT ) - ( 3 IN )
Manila Folders ( 5 )
Bangladesh Bears ( 2 OUT ) - ( 2 IN )
all ofthis information is in this thread :)
Quote from: JROO8 on October 28, 2013, 12:03:19 AM
Trade period 1
Tigers give Rook 24
Vipers get Rook 24
Trade period 2
Tigers give Mark Hutchings, Jack Newnes
Vipers give Shaun Grigg, Paul Seedsman
Colli to accept
Confirmed
BB has to approve this one.
Quote from: nostradamus on October 28, 2013, 12:22:10 AM
Quote from: Adamant on October 28, 2013, 12:16:50 AM
I really hope Seedsman doesn't get defender status for Colli's sake.
l think Seedsman will get dpp .......d/m
newnes should get def/mid status next season.
if seedsman does it will only be for one season, he is a midfielder for the pies going fwd no question.
trade looks to favour jroo8 a lot, but i think it only does a little.
hutchings averaged 120, newnes 80 (close enough), both best 22 players in rebuilding clubs, young and both starred at the lower level and as youths.
got to do a bit of reading to understand the value of these two players, i am speculating but i like them so happy to do the deal.
the rook pick i dont even need wont use it, but now i will try turn my rook pick #20 and this rook pick #24 into a rook pick in the low teens. in a two for one deal, so then the trade can also benefit me with a rookie pick upgrade into the teens.
we will see. Jroo wins, but i never claimed to be any good at this :) and i do like the players i got . not that uneven when you look at the potential of who i got.
Quote from: nostradamus on October 28, 2013, 12:22:10 AM
Quote from: Adamant on October 28, 2013, 12:16:50 AM
I really hope Seedsman doesn't get defender status for Colli's sake.
l think Seedsman will get dpp .......d/m
I thought Jroo won easy on the trade without Seedsman getting DPP
Thanks Colli.
I couldn't see the list movements part 2 bit. Maybe I looked at the wrong thing.
seedsman averaged 104 / hutchings averaged 120
newnes averaged 78 / grigg averaged 118
CW gives 222
JROO gives 198
CW gets rookie 24
3 of those players have improvement in them, grigg is not one of them.
pretty even i would say. but jroo does win it not by enough to get excited about? :)
plenty of articles like these i could show you: newnes:
http://www.saints.com.au/news/2013-10-03/2013-review-jack-newnes
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-07-19/a-newnes-leader-for-saints
and then there is hutchings:
http://www.wafl.com.au/players/view/2008
just a snapshot on him.
but some facts:
AFL average SB 2013 = 120+
runner up in sandover medal in 2012 and best and fairest at his club.
6th most disposals in wafl in 2012, 2nd in kicks, 4th in clearances, 4th in tackles, 5th for marks, (yes in the entire WAFL) 2012.
more than 20 disposals in all but 4 of his 20 games in 2012.
captain of WA in U18 champs.
he should turn out ok. I'm betting on it anyway ;)
flower, now I'm wishing I didn't trade Hutch lol. Nobody wanted a bar of him when I had him. :P
im just talking my players up so BB passes it ;)
Quote from: Adamant on October 28, 2013, 01:24:07 AM
flower, now I'm wishing I didn't trade Hutch lol. Nobody wanted a bar of him when I had him. :P
Whaaat!?!?!? I must have missed that :(
Quote from: Adamant on October 28, 2013, 01:24:07 AM
flower, now I'm wishing I didn't trade Hutch lol. Nobody wanted a bar of him when I had him. :P
Not true, traded him from under our noses. ::)
i will never get tired of seeing your avatar.
off topic?
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 28, 2013, 01:36:32 AM
Quote from: Adamant on October 28, 2013, 01:24:07 AM
flower, now I'm wishing I didn't trade Hutch lol. Nobody wanted a bar of him when I had him. :P
Not true, traded him from under our noses. ::)
Yeah, but JRoo's offer was pretty good IMO. I really rate Sylvia and reckon he'll explode at Freo. Sandi is old and injury prone, but he'll be decent ruck cover and having the Sandi/Griffin combo as back-up can't hurt. Edwards was just there to get the deal done and give us another depth forward, but he still has potential.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on October 28, 2013, 12:26:46 AM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 28, 2013, 12:03:19 AM
Trade period 1
Tigers give Rook 24
Vipers get Rook 24
Trade period 2
Tigers give Mark Hutchings, Jack Newnes
Vipers give Shaun Grigg, Paul Seedsman
Colli to accept
Confirmed
BB has to approve this one.
APPROVEDReasoning: Colli summed it up pretty well in his post above. JROO wins now on averages, but Seedsman will become a mid only, if not next year then the year after. Rookie pick balances it slightly. JROO wins short term, but Newnes should develop into a fine player to even it out.
personally think Seedsman will become DPP next year and take over Shaw's role and keep DPP
Pies have enough mids and there early draft picks this year i see him staying in defense
I tend to agree about Seedsman being DPP. If Hutchings can become best 22 at the Eagles and play a lot of games he might improve his average from his 9 games in 2013. Newnes is prob the one that will become mid only. The kid can play though. Got a couple of Saint mates that rate him very high.
Time will tell with this trade.
Who is the expert to say seedsman will be mid only for his career??
I was told Trent McKenzie will be a mid only his career and look how he played last season.
I think he's about a 60/40 of getting it,
l think people tend to forget that there are a number of factors to be considered when assessing trades done.
*The opinions and decisions made by individual coaches is important, afterall it's their team and they have the right to make them.
*The needs of each team and the direction they're going is vitally important, and is a huge factor.
*Opinions are like @rseholes, everyone has one, and they're not all the same........we need to respect other coaches decisions, just because they're opinion may diifer from ours it doesnt make it wrong.
***just my 2 cents worth ;)
Quote from: Adamant on October 28, 2013, 01:24:07 AM
flower, now I'm wishing I didn't trade Hutch lol. Nobody wanted a bar of him when I had him. :P
The reason I only had lukewarm interest in him was because while he has gunned it in the WAFL that's where he was dropped to at the end of the season which indicates that his JS is not the best.
When everyone is fully fit will he be in the Eagles best 22? Speaking as an Eagles fan I'm not sure that he will.
Our midfielders next season will be: Scooter, Masten, Priddis, Wellingham, Shuey, Gaff, Rosa, Ellis, Dalziell, Hutchings, McGinnity, Morton. Plus probably Dom Sheed taken with Pick #11.
Hutchings is not ahead of Scooter, Masten, Priddis, Wellingham or Shuey for sure. Which leaves him battling with Rosa/Gaff/Dalziell/Ellis for an attacking mid spot and McGinnity for a tagger spot.
Plus he is a very similar player to Priddis. Great at getting first hands on the footy
Hutchy is definitely in our best 22 players. Will we play Hutchy and Priddis at the same time? I doubt it. IMO Hutchy's main competition is the great man Matt Priddis.
This Period:
Bangladesh give: Rookie #16
Taiwan give:
Next Period:
Bangladesh give: Dean Terlich
Taiwan give: Jed Adcock
Memph to confirm.
Quote from: elephants on October 28, 2013, 01:28:35 PM
Hutchy is definitely in our best 22 players. Will we play Hutchy and Priddis at the same time? I doubt it. IMO Hutchy's main competition is the great man Matt Priddis.
You just contradicted yourself? He's in the best 22 but we won't play him if Priddis plays. Well Priddis>Hutchings so that means he won't play.
He's not in my best 22 btw.
Quote from: Adamant on October 28, 2013, 01:34:37 PM
This Period:
Bangladesh give: Rookie #16
Taiwan give:
Next Period:
Bangladesh give: Dean Terlich
Taiwan give: Jed Adcock
Memph to confirm.
Confirm.
Like for like replacement. Terlich is younger, but Adcock is more proven so Pick 16 evens the deal nicely I feel.
Quote from: Memphistopheles on October 28, 2013, 01:34:58 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 28, 2013, 01:28:35 PM
Hutchy is definitely in our best 22 players. Will we play Hutchy and Priddis at the same time? I doubt it. IMO Hutchy's main competition is the great man Matt Priddis.
You just contradicted yourself? He's in the best 22 but we won't play him if Priddis plays. Well Priddis>Hutchings so that means he won't play.
He's not in my best 22 btw.
Read what I said again. He's in out best 22 players but structurally we won't play Ploddus and Hutchings together.
Quote from: Memphistopheles on October 28, 2013, 01:37:55 PM
Quote from: Adamant on October 28, 2013, 01:34:37 PM
This Period:
Bangladesh give: Rookie #16
Taiwan give:
Next Period:
Bangladesh give: Dean Terlich
Taiwan give: Jed Adcock
Memph to confirm.
Confirm.
Like for like replacement. Terlich is younger, but Adcock is more proven so Pick 16 evens the deal nicely I feel.
APPROVEDReasoning: Memph summed it up well. Adcock is proven scorer but old and Terlich is young and has lots of potential, pick evens it out well.
Colli to process
Quote from: nostradamus on October 28, 2013, 11:14:34 AM
l think people tend to forget that there are a number of factors to be considered when assessing trades done.
*The opinions and decisions made by individual coaches is important, afterall it's their team and they have the right to make them.
*The needs of each team and the direction they're going is vitally important, and is a huge factor.
*Opinions are like @rseholes, everyone has one, and they're not all the same........we need to respect other coaches decisions, just because they're opinion may diifer from ours it doesnt make it wrong.
***just my 2 cents worth ;)
want to make it clear i was only debating Seedsmans DPP for next year or his career nothing to do with the trade
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 28, 2013, 04:35:01 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on October 28, 2013, 11:14:34 AM
l think people tend to forget that there are a number of factors to be considered when assessing trades done.
*The opinions and decisions made by individual coaches is important, afterall it's their team and they have the right to make them.
*The needs of each team and the direction they're going is vitally important, and is a huge factor.
*Opinions are like @rseholes, everyone has one, and they're not all the same........we need to respect other coaches decisions, just because they're opinion may diifer from ours it doesnt make it wrong.
***just my 2 cents worth ;)
want to make it clear i was only debating Seedsmans DPP for next year or his career nothing to do with the trade
all good mate, my comment wasn't directed at anyone in particular, but was a general one in light of some of the recent discussion
an update on the status of the sixth round of the AXVS national draft picks - it is looking very likely this round of picks will not exist.
AFL draft likely to take 55-60 players maximum, which means with rookie promotions and axvs clubs skipping picks we may only just have enough AFL national drafted players to complete round 5 as it is.
I will work through this once i have all teams delisting information and planned rookie upgrades and make a call as soon as possible.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-28/draft-numbers-set-to-fall
Quote from: whatlez on October 28, 2013, 12:18:30 AM
I still Dont know who the flower is Newnes?!? The amount of offers I've gotten from Toga then Jroo!!!
+1, apparently he is meant to be the next best thing. Not sure why they dont want to keep him then
He's not that great, should be a decent player and he's a chance for M/D dpp, nothing too special
Quote from: specky92 on October 28, 2013, 08:54:11 PM
He's not that great, should be a decent player and he's a chance for M/D dpp, nothing too special
He's only 20, give him time ;)
i rate him like i rated tom ledger - and where is he now again?
Quote from: JROO8 on October 28, 2013, 08:55:05 PM
Quote from: specky92 on October 28, 2013, 08:54:11 PM
He's not that great, should be a decent player and he's a chance for M/D dpp, nothing too special
He's only 20, give him time ;)
i actually do rate him as well, picked him up in TX, hoping for a 70 average defender/mid next year
Quote from: Colliwobblers on October 28, 2013, 09:08:04 PM
i rate him like i rated tom ledger - and where is he now again?
Ledger asked to be delisted so WCE/Freo could get him in the PSD ;)
Quote from: tabs on October 28, 2013, 08:48:39 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 28, 2013, 12:18:30 AM
I still Dont know who the flower is Newnes?!? The amount of offers I've gotten from Toga then Jroo!!!
+1, apparently he is meant to be the next best thing. Not sure why they dont want to keep him then
Curren is the next big thing out of St Kilda ;)
hope you're right ELE was certain Ledger would be a player.
you are right Ricochet - no ifs no buts no maybes
Quote from: Ricochet on October 28, 2013, 09:45:58 PM
Quote from: tabs on October 28, 2013, 08:48:39 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 28, 2013, 12:18:30 AM
I still Dont know who the flower is Newnes?!? The amount of offers I've gotten from Toga then Jroo!!!
+1, apparently he is meant to be the next best thing. Not sure why they dont want to keep him then
Curren is the next big thing out of St Kilda ;)
Spencer White's supposed to be pretty exciting/talented too. Comparisons with Buddy already...
Quote from: Memphistopheles on October 28, 2013, 11:23:14 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 28, 2013, 09:45:58 PM
Quote from: tabs on October 28, 2013, 08:48:39 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 28, 2013, 12:18:30 AM
I still Dont know who the flower is Newnes?!? The amount of offers I've gotten from Toga then Jroo!!!
+1, apparently he is meant to be the next best thing. Not sure why they dont want to keep him then
Curren is the next big thing out of St Kilda ;)
Spencer White's supposed to be pretty exciting/talented too. Comparisons with Buddy already...
There's a lot to be excited about with this kid.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on October 28, 2013, 10:22:45 PM
you are right Ricochet - no ifs no buts no maybes
got better as he got more comfortable too
53(sub), 12(sub) and then... 75, 93, 115, 120, 132
its a pity none of you are getting him then isnt it? :P
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 28, 2013, 11:37:36 PM
its a pity none of you are getting him then isnt it? :P
Umm, pretty sure
we have him mate :P
Quote from: elephants on October 28, 2013, 11:40:05 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 28, 2013, 11:37:36 PM
its a pity none of you are getting him then isnt it? :P
Umm, pretty sure we have him mate :P
nope, you have the North melbourne one
http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,86920.0.html
clearly says he is still there.
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 28, 2013, 11:43:40 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 28, 2013, 11:40:05 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 28, 2013, 11:37:36 PM
its a pity none of you are getting him then isnt it? :P
Umm, pretty sure we have him mate :P
nope, you have the North melbourne one
http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,86920.0.html
clearly says he is still there.
wat the flower... every team list we had had Curren. Just checked the original draft and we have Curran
I feel like my heart has been ripped out :(
I am going to laugh when our Curran turns out way better ;)
i think both have a bright future, but north can take awhile to get the kids through and there is a long line.
i have garner in a lot of comps and rate him super high but the fear is the time it will take to come through north....
Koops up and about!
Rook pick 3 suddenly doesn't look so bad :P
Until toga takes curren at pick 2 :P
Plenty of decent options in the rookie draft. Pick 3 is a beauty.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 29, 2013, 09:02:26 AM
Until toga takes curren at pick 2 :P
Im fairly certain of who he is picking, but if he picks Curren instead, I wont be complaining.
So Newnes or Curren?
Isn't he taking O'Shea?
I'm kinda hoping we can still get the guy we want with our late first round rookie pick. :(
Selling rookie pick 6 if anyone is keen
Trade with Noz that took all of 30 seconds
Trade Period 1:
Kuala Lumpur give: Rich + N29
Kuala Lumpur gets: Wellingham
Turkey give: Wellingham
Turkey gets: Rich + N29
Trade Period 2:
Kuala Lumpur give: Hurley
Kuala Lumpur gets: H.Shaw
Turkey give: H.Shaw
Turkey gets: Hurley
Quote from: Ricochet on October 29, 2013, 01:24:57 PM
Trade with Noz that took all of 30 seconds
Trade Period 1:
Kuala Lumpur give: Rich + N29
Kuala Lumpur gets: Wellingham
Turkey give: Wellingham
Turkey gets: Rich + N29
Trade Period 2:
Kuala Lumpur give: Hurley
Kuala Lumpur gets: H.Shaw
Turkey give: H.Shaw
Turkey gets: Hurley
Accept.
Good to see a trade get done very quickly!
Quote from: Noz on October 29, 2013, 01:26:32 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 29, 2013, 01:24:57 PM
Trade with Noz that took all of 30 seconds
Trade Period 1:
Kuala Lumpur give: Rich + N29
Kuala Lumpur gets: Wellingham
Turkey give: Wellingham
Turkey gets: Rich + N29
Trade Period 2:
Kuala Lumpur give: Hurley
Kuala Lumpur gets: H.Shaw
Turkey give: H.Shaw
Turkey gets: Hurley
Accept.
Good to see a trade get done very quickly!
Nice trade, with Shaw and Wellingham Ric's best XV is going to look pretty decent.
Wow, big win to KL there!
Getting slightly worried about them now, just need a forward line and they'll be looking pretty strong.
Cheers Noz! A fast trade :o so uncharacteristic of our trading record :P
Quote from: elephants on October 29, 2013, 01:33:06 PM
Cheers Noz! A fast trade :o so uncharacteristic of our trading record :P
Yeah it was good
Since i am a huge fan of Rich and you being a huge fan of Wellingham that was easy both are quite similar.
With no Crameri or Gumby, Hurley should be a 50+ goal kicker next year as Essendon charge to top 4.
Shaw to help the young giant outfit could maintain his good scores
Pick 29 evens it all out.
lol Hurley kick 50+ goals funny
Quote from: Noz on October 29, 2013, 01:37:56 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 29, 2013, 01:33:06 PM
Cheers Noz! A fast trade :o so uncharacteristic of our trading record :P
Yeah it was good
Since i am a huge fan of Rich and you being a huge fan of Wellingham that was easy both are quite similar.
With no Crameri or Gumby, Hurley should be a 50+ goal kicker next year as Essendon charge to top 4.
Shaw to help the young giant outfit could maintain his good scores
Pick 29 evens it all out.
Hurley should be a defender. Why the bombers keep playing him up forward is beyond me - maybe he wants to play there I don't know but in the games I've seen he's been a much better defender than forward.
He probably will get games up forward again though given Crameri and Gumbleton have left. Daniher should get more games as well.
I'm bored... anyone to just talk about trades, we don't have to get far haha
I'm selling: Shiel, Wines, N6, R6, Liam Shiels, others.
We've had a few inquiries about Broughton and can confirm that we're open to offers for him
....offers can be sent to me or RidleyU
Quote from: Memphistopheles on October 29, 2013, 05:47:16 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 29, 2013, 01:37:56 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 29, 2013, 01:33:06 PM
Cheers Noz! A fast trade :o so uncharacteristic of our trading record :P
Yeah it was good
Since i am a huge fan of Rich and you being a huge fan of Wellingham that was easy both are quite similar.
With no Crameri or Gumby, Hurley should be a 50+ goal kicker next year as Essendon charge to top 4.
Shaw to help the young giant outfit could maintain his good scores
Pick 29 evens it all out.
Hurley should be a defender. Why the bombers keep playing him up forward is beyond me - maybe he wants to play there I don't know but in the games I've seen he's been a much better defender than forward.
He probably will get games up forward again though given Crameri and Gumbleton have left. Daniher should get more games as well.
yep he want to be a forward
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 29, 2013, 06:47:14 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on October 29, 2013, 05:47:16 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 29, 2013, 01:37:56 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 29, 2013, 01:33:06 PM
Cheers Noz! A fast trade :o so uncharacteristic of our trading record :P
Yeah it was good
Since i am a huge fan of Rich and you being a huge fan of Wellingham that was easy both are quite similar.
With no Crameri or Gumby, Hurley should be a 50+ goal kicker next year as Essendon charge to top 4.
Shaw to help the young giant outfit could maintain his good scores
Pick 29 evens it all out.
Hurley should be a defender. Why the bombers keep playing him up forward is beyond me - maybe he wants to play there I don't know but in the games I've seen he's been a much better defender than forward.
He probably will get games up forward again though given Crameri and Gumbleton have left. Daniher should get more games as well.
yep he want to be a forward
I think Hurley will be a lot better next year without Crameri.
why? will get more attention and he might have to move up the ground a bit more to provide a target especially if we decide to get games into Daniher
Quote from: BB67th on October 28, 2013, 07:55:03 AM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on October 28, 2013, 12:26:46 AM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 28, 2013, 12:03:19 AM
Trade period 1
Tigers give Rook 24
Vipers get Rook 24
Trade period 2
Tigers give Mark Hutchings, Jack Newnes
Vipers give Shaun Grigg, Paul Seedsman
Colli to accept
Confirmed
BB has to approve this one.
APPROVED
Reasoning: Colli summed it up pretty well in his post above. JROO wins now on averages, but Seedsman will become a mid only, if not next year then the year after. Rookie pick balances it slightly. JROO wins short term, but Newnes should develop into a fine player to even it out.
PROCESSED
Quote from: BB67th on October 28, 2013, 04:24:53 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on October 28, 2013, 01:37:55 PM
Quote from: Adamant on October 28, 2013, 01:34:37 PM
This Period:
Bangladesh give: Rookie #16
Taiwan give:
Next Period:
Bangladesh give: Dean Terlich
Taiwan give: Jed Adcock
Memph to confirm.
Confirm.
Like for like replacement. Terlich is younger, but Adcock is more proven so Pick 16 evens the deal nicely I feel.
APPROVED
Reasoning: Memph summed it up well. Adcock is proven scorer but old and Terlich is young and has lots of potential, pick evens it out well.
Colli to process
PROCESSED
Quote from: JROO8 on October 29, 2013, 01:30:36 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 29, 2013, 01:26:32 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 29, 2013, 01:24:57 PM
Trade with Noz that took all of 30 seconds
Trade Period 1:
Kuala Lumpur give: Rich + N29
Kuala Lumpur gets: Wellingham
Turkey give: Wellingham
Turkey gets: Rich + N29
Trade Period 2:
Kuala Lumpur give: Hurley
Kuala Lumpur gets: H.Shaw
Turkey give: H.Shaw
Turkey gets: Hurley
Accept.
Good to see a trade get done very quickly!
Nice trade, with Shaw and Wellingham Ric's best XV is going to look pretty decent.
APPROVED & PROCESSEDRationale: A win to KL in the short term, but with Essendon's forward line looking a little thin, Hurley should step up with extra responsibilities. Next year is probably make or break for him, so it is definitely a risky trade, but the addition of the draft pick makes things slightly more even. This trade is a bit uneven, but not too uneven to block.
I believe I have now updated all trades that were awaiting processing and approval.
If I have missed one or if I have made any mistakes in editing any lists with your trades just let me know. I'm sure I haven't, checked the lists a few times to make sure they were correct, but these things do happen occasionally.
Quote from: whatlez on October 29, 2013, 07:48:17 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 28, 2013, 09:35:27 PM
Lids + Robbo + Gray For Tex
Deal 8)
flowering hell, the Tigers win huge there :o wtf are you thinking, lez? I'd pay Sloane, KJack + NAT 9 for Tex
Quote from: Jayman on October 29, 2013, 07:57:55 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 29, 2013, 07:48:17 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 28, 2013, 09:35:27 PM
Lids + Robbo + Gray For Tex
Deal 8)
flowering hell, the Tigers win huge there :o wtf are you thinking, lez? I'd pay Sloane, KJack + NAT 9 for Tex
Are you smoking something there Jay? :o
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 29, 2013, 07:59:14 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 29, 2013, 07:57:55 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 29, 2013, 07:48:17 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 28, 2013, 09:35:27 PM
Lids + Robbo + Gray For Tex
Deal 8)
flowering hell, the Tigers win huge there :o wtf are you thinking, lez? I'd pay Sloane, KJack + NAT 9 for Tex
Are you smoking something there Jay? :o
Whatever it is I want some of it :o :P
Quote from: nrich102 on October 29, 2013, 08:02:20 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 29, 2013, 07:59:14 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 29, 2013, 07:57:55 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 29, 2013, 07:48:17 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 28, 2013, 09:35:27 PM
Lids + Robbo + Gray For Tex
Deal 8)
flowering hell, the Tigers win huge there :o wtf are you thinking, lez? I'd pay Sloane, KJack + NAT 9 for Tex
Are you smoking something there Jay? :o
Whatever it is I want some of it :o :P
Obvious sarcasm wasn't obvious enough? :(
Quote from: Jayman on October 29, 2013, 08:03:23 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 29, 2013, 08:02:20 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 29, 2013, 07:59:14 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 29, 2013, 07:57:55 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 29, 2013, 07:48:17 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 28, 2013, 09:35:27 PM
Lids + Robbo + Gray For Tex
Deal 8)
flowering hell, the Tigers win huge there :o wtf are you thinking, lez? I'd pay Sloane, KJack + NAT 9 for Tex
Are you smoking something there Jay? :o
Whatever it is I want some of it :o :P
Obvious sarcasm wasn't obvious enough? :(
doesnt work when youre a Crows supporter :P
Quote from: Jayman on October 29, 2013, 08:03:23 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 29, 2013, 08:02:20 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 29, 2013, 07:59:14 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 29, 2013, 07:57:55 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 29, 2013, 07:48:17 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 28, 2013, 09:35:27 PM
Lids + Robbo + Gray For Tex
Deal 8)
flowering hell, the Tigers win huge there :o wtf are you thinking, lez? I'd pay Sloane, KJack + NAT 9 for Tex
Are you smoking something there Jay? :o
Whatever it is I want some of it :o :P
Obvious sarcasm wasn't obvious enough? :(
You didn't use the sarcastic font, ::)
Nice quoting skills there, Nige ::) :P
Perhaps don't post joke trades in the OFFICIAL thread? Save it for the discussion thread...
Elephants give: National pick 6
Headhunters give: Garrick Ibbotson
Quote from: whatlez on October 29, 2013, 11:37:40 PM
Elephants give: National pick 6
Lobsters give: Garrivk Ibbotson
Tabs confirming
Leaves me with 2 in 2 out
Edited his name.
Lobsters? Did you chance your team name or is this another joke trade?
Whoops Lobsters was his British team name.
My bad. Edited.
Quote from: whatlez on October 30, 2013, 12:38:51 AM
Whoops Lobsters was his British team name.
My bad. Edited.
Lobsters are my British team. :P They'd be tabs' rivals in BXVs. ;)
Quote from: NigeyS on October 30, 2013, 11:29:45 AM
Quote from: whatlez on October 30, 2013, 12:38:51 AM
Whoops Lobsters was his British team name.
My bad. Edited.
Lobsters are my British team. :P They'd be tabs' rivals in BXVs. ;)
Oh yeah Lobsters was Monstrums British team and head hunters used to be Monstrums Asian team.
Does that make sense?
Quote from: whatlez on October 30, 2013, 11:50:50 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 30, 2013, 11:29:45 AM
Quote from: whatlez on October 30, 2013, 12:38:51 AM
Whoops Lobsters was his British team name.
My bad. Edited.
Lobsters are my British team. :P They'd be tabs' rivals in BXVs. ;)
Oh yeah Lobsters was Monstrums British team and head hunters used to be Monstrums Asian team.
Does that make sense?
Yeah haha, I know.
Quote from: whatlez on October 30, 2013, 11:50:50 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 30, 2013, 11:29:45 AM
Quote from: whatlez on October 30, 2013, 12:38:51 AM
Whoops Lobsters was his British team name.
My bad. Edited.
Lobsters are my British team. :P They'd be tabs' rivals in BXVs. ;)
Oh yeah Lobsters was Monstrums British team and head hunters used to be Monstrums Asian team.
Does that make sense?
Does anything you say make sense??
Quote from: tabs on October 29, 2013, 11:41:59 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 29, 2013, 11:37:40 PM
Elephants give: National pick 6
Head Hunters give: Garrick Ibbotson
Tabs confirming
Leaves me with 2 in 2 out
TRADE CANCELLEDHEAD HUNTERS DO NOT HAVE THE REQUIRED LIST MOVEMENTS.
good work BB , you got to watch these guys ... ;D
So how will it work?
Another trade, this time with Noz, pleasure dealing with you mate. :)
Period 1
Kathmandu give: Alan Didak + Beau Maister
Turkey give: 74
Period 2:
Kathmandu give: Lewis Stevenson
Turkey give: Tom Young + Todd Banfield
Noz to confirm.
Quote from: whatlez on October 30, 2013, 07:02:26 PM
So how will it work?
Well you can't do a trade involving Ibbotson this period as PNG have no list movements left.
You could do it next period by picking whoever tabs wants with pick 6 and trading in the second period, but as you would then be trading a player and not a pick, this would count as a full list movement. So 1 out movement and 1 in movement.
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 30, 2013, 07:02:54 PM
Another trade, this time with Noz, pleasure dealing with you mate. :)
Period 1
Kathmandu give: Alan Didak + Beau Maister
Turkey give: 74
Period 2:
Kathmandu give: Lewis Stevenson
Turkey give: Tom Young + Todd Banfield
Noz to confirm.
Confirm :)
Or just go
This Period
Lez Gives: N6
Next Period
Tabs Gives: Ibbo
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 30, 2013, 07:02:54 PM
Another trade, this time with Noz, pleasure dealing with you mate. :)
Period 1
Kathmandu give: Alan Didak + Beau Maister
Turkey give: 74
Period 2:
Kathmandu give: Lewis Stevenson
Turkey give: Tom Young + Todd Banfield
Noz to confirm.
I'm assuming this is NAT pick 74 and not rookie?
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 30, 2013, 07:02:54 PM
Another trade, this time with Noz, pleasure dealing with you mate. :)
Period 1
Kathmandu give: Alan Didak + Beau Maister
Turkey give: 74
Period 2:
Kathmandu give: Lewis Stevenson
Turkey give: Tom Young + Todd Banfield
Noz to confirm.
So you can trade in a retired player?? Surely not.
Quote from: Ricochet on October 30, 2013, 07:10:28 PM
Or just go
This Period
Lez Gives: N6
Next Period
Tabs Gives: Ibbo
That works fine too :)
Quote from: whatlez on October 30, 2013, 07:18:46 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 30, 2013, 07:02:54 PM
Another trade, this time with Noz, pleasure dealing with you mate. :)
Period 1
Kathmandu give: Alan Didak + Beau Maister
Turkey give: 74
Period 2:
Kathmandu give: Lewis Stevenson
Turkey give: Tom Young + Todd Banfield
Noz to confirm.
So you can trade in a retired player?? Surely not.
pretty sure he is looking for a lifeline?
This Period
Elephants Gives: N6
Next Period
Headhunters Gives: Ibbotson
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 30, 2013, 07:21:50 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 30, 2013, 07:18:46 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 30, 2013, 07:02:54 PM
Another trade, this time with Noz, pleasure dealing with you mate. :)
Period 1
Kathmandu give: Alan Didak + Beau Maister
Turkey give: 74
Period 2:
Kathmandu give: Lewis Stevenson
Turkey give: Tom Young + Todd Banfield
Noz to confirm.
So you can trade in a retired player?? Surely not.
pretty sure he is looking for a lifeline?
I'm 85% sure no one wants him and he won't get picked up.
I want to know why Banfield is getting traded in? He won't play for the Lions again.
Quote from: whatlez on October 30, 2013, 07:30:47 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 30, 2013, 07:21:50 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 30, 2013, 07:18:46 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 30, 2013, 07:02:54 PM
Another trade, this time with Noz, pleasure dealing with you mate. :)
Period 1
Kathmandu give: Alan Didak + Beau Maister
Turkey give: 74
Period 2:
Kathmandu give: Lewis Stevenson
Turkey give: Tom Young + Todd Banfield
Noz to confirm.
So you can trade in a retired player?? Surely not.
pretty sure he is looking for a lifeline?
I'm 85% sure no one wants him and he won't get picked up.
I want to know why Banfield is getting traded in? He won't play for the Lions again.
Banfield is worse than Mckeever.
Quote from: whatlez on October 30, 2013, 07:27:39 PM
This Period
Elephants Gives: N6
Next Period
Headhunters Gives: Ibbotson
confirm
Quote from: whatlez on October 30, 2013, 07:30:47 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 30, 2013, 07:21:50 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 30, 2013, 07:18:46 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 30, 2013, 07:02:54 PM
Another trade, this time with Noz, pleasure dealing with you mate. :)
Period 1
Kathmandu give: Alan Didak + Beau Maister
Turkey give: 74
Period 2:
Kathmandu give: Lewis Stevenson
Turkey give: Tom Young + Todd Banfield
Noz to confirm.
So you can trade in a retired player?? Surely not.
pretty sure he is looking for a lifeline?
I'm 85% sure no one wants him and he won't get picked up.
I want to know why Banfield is getting traded in? He won't play for the Lions again.
More to the point, why waste list movements on those spuds :P
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 30, 2013, 07:43:56 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 30, 2013, 07:30:47 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 30, 2013, 07:21:50 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 30, 2013, 07:18:46 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 30, 2013, 07:02:54 PM
Another trade, this time with Noz, pleasure dealing with you mate. :)
Period 1
Kathmandu give: Alan Didak + Beau Maister
Turkey give: 74
Period 2:
Kathmandu give: Lewis Stevenson
Turkey give: Tom Young + Todd Banfield
Noz to confirm.
So you can trade in a retired player?? Surely not.
pretty sure he is looking for a lifeline?
I'm 85% sure no one wants him and he won't get picked up.
I want to know why Banfield is getting traded in? He won't play for the Lions again.
More to the point, why waste list movements on those spuds :P
I see a lot of potential in Tom Young, Banfield was more of a sweetner that I thought why the hell not to take a punt on.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 30, 2013, 07:43:56 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 30, 2013, 07:30:47 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 30, 2013, 07:21:50 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 30, 2013, 07:18:46 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 30, 2013, 07:02:54 PM
Another trade, this time with Noz, pleasure dealing with you mate. :)
Period 1
Kathmandu give: Alan Didak + Beau Maister
Turkey give: 74
Period 2:
Kathmandu give: Lewis Stevenson
Turkey give: Tom Young + Todd Banfield
Noz to confirm.
So you can trade in a retired player?? Surely not.
pretty sure he is looking for a lifeline?
I'm 85% sure no one wants him and he won't get picked up.
I want to know why Banfield is getting traded in? He won't play for the Lions again.
More to the point, why waste list movements on those spuds :P
Why do people care?
Quote from: RidleyU on October 30, 2013, 07:46:57 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 30, 2013, 07:43:56 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 30, 2013, 07:30:47 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 30, 2013, 07:21:50 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 30, 2013, 07:18:46 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 30, 2013, 07:02:54 PM
Another trade, this time with Noz, pleasure dealing with you mate. :)
Period 1
Kathmandu give: Alan Didak + Beau Maister
Turkey give: 74
Period 2:
Kathmandu give: Lewis Stevenson
Turkey give: Tom Young + Todd Banfield
Noz to confirm.
So you can trade in a retired player?? Surely not.
pretty sure he is looking for a lifeline?
I'm 85% sure no one wants him and he won't get picked up.
I want to know why Banfield is getting traded in? He won't play for the Lions again.
More to the point, why waste list movements on those spuds :P
Why do people care?
This is a forum, people will post opinions.
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 30, 2013, 07:45:46 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 30, 2013, 07:43:56 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 30, 2013, 07:30:47 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 30, 2013, 07:21:50 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 30, 2013, 07:18:46 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 30, 2013, 07:02:54 PM
Another trade, this time with Noz, pleasure dealing with you mate. :)
Period 1
Kathmandu give: Alan Didak + Beau Maister
Turkey give: 74
Period 2:
Kathmandu give: Lewis Stevenson
Turkey give: Tom Young + Todd Banfield
Noz to confirm.
So you can trade in a retired player?? Surely not.
pretty sure he is looking for a lifeline?
I'm 85% sure no one wants him and he won't get picked up.
I want to know why Banfield is getting traded in? He won't play for the Lions again.
More to the point, why waste list movements on those spuds :P
I see a lot of potential in Tom Young, Banfield was more of a sweetner that I thought why the hell not to take a punt on.
Yea Young/Maister have potential. others just wasting movements you dont wanna be stuck for movements later because of it.
Revised Trade!
Period 1
Kathmandu give: Beau Maister + Lewis Stevenson
Turkey give: 74
Period 2:
Kathmandu give:
Turkey give: Tom Young
KK to confirm
Opinions are fine but at the end of the day I think Koops trades have been scrutinised enough tbh.
Koops knows where his team is at.
Quote from: RidleyU on October 30, 2013, 07:57:54 PM
Opinions are fine but at the end of the day I think Koops trades have been scrutinised enough tbh.
Koops knows where his team is at.
This has nothing to do with Koop. Banfield is about the most hated Lions player
If anyone wants Banfield i will take basically anyone.
Quote from: whatlez on October 30, 2013, 08:05:05 PM
Quote from: RidleyU on October 30, 2013, 07:57:54 PM
Opinions are fine but at the end of the day I think Koops trades have been scrutinised enough tbh.
Koops knows where his team is at.
This has nothing to do with Koop. Banfield is about the most hated Lions player
Different coach new start mate. He may just surprise people.
Quote from: Noz on October 30, 2013, 07:56:24 PM
Revised Trade!
Period 1
Kathmandu give: Beau Maister + Lewis Stevenson
Turkey give: 74
Period 2:
Kathmandu give:
Turkey give: Tom Young
KK to confirm
CONFIRM
OK... a threesome with a Crocodile, Elephant and Lamb.
Full Deal
Lambs give: Trent West + R62
Lambs get: N26 + N38
Crocs give: Hickey + R7 + R37
Crocs get: West + R6 + R28
Elephants give: N26 + N38 + R6 + R28
Elephants get: Hickey + R7 + R37 + R62
Trade Period 1
Lambs give: Trent West + R62
Lambs get: N26 + N38
Crocs give: R7 + R37
Crocs get: West + R6 + R28
Elephants give: N26 + N38 + R6 + R28
Elephants get: R7 + R37 + R62
Trade Period 2
Crocs give: Hickey
Elephants get: Hickey
Confirmed 8)
Confirming 8)
What does that threesome produce.... A Crocolambiphant? :P
Lamcrophant
Lamephile?
http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php?action=profile;u=1575
and then another with tabs, pending the one above
Trade Period 2
Crocodiles give: West
Headhunters give: Witts
Quote from: Ricochet on October 30, 2013, 11:45:44 PM
and then another with tabs, pending the one above
Trade Period 2
Crocodiles give: West
Headhunters give: Witts
tabs confirming
Grundy & Witts. Nicely done Rico.
Quote from: Adamant on October 30, 2013, 11:59:29 PM
Grundy & Witts. Nicely done Rico.
It took a bit but finally got there
reckon it was a good trade for everyone involved, well done on getting it done.
I got Longer/Hickey 8)
McEvoy/Sandilands/Griffin. 8)
Goldstein
Nuff said.
Liam McBeen > Longer, Grundy and Witts
Quote from: Noz on October 31, 2013, 06:43:14 AM
Liam McBeen > Longer, Grundy and Witts
wat u been smoking noz?
Ryder..... oh wait a sec :-[
Should I have mentioned before that I wanted Jack Riewoldt & Jack Newnes to both leave my list in the first trade period? To use up all my list movements for period 1? I forgot to before I think :-X
Quote from: Toga on October 31, 2013, 09:35:56 AM
Should I have mentioned before that I wanted Jack Riewoldt & Jack Newnes to both leave my list in the first trade period? To use up all my list movements for period 1? I forgot to before I think :-X
But I have no list movements this trade period so I couldn't trade them in anyway.
Just say you don't use all your list movements in trade period 1 can you use them in trade period 2 or are they gone?
Looking for a youngish premium defender (under 27) and a gun mid under 28.
Have youth to move on. Anyone keen? Who's maybe rebuilding?
Looking to move Stokes on for the best draft pick (NAT or Rookie) possible.
For a team in contention next season he's better than anyone you'll draft with almost all the rookie picks, including the unpicked players, and more useful to you than a youngster picked in the National draft.
Yes there's a good chance he'll be mid only next season but even so he would have been in the Top 50 scoring mids this season and should slot into any team, even if it's on the utility line.
Ill give you rookie pick 28 :P and Rookie 44 for Stokes
Quote from: whatlez on October 31, 2013, 12:41:37 PM
Ill give you rookie pick 28 :P and Rookie 44 for Stokes
I'll give you rook 21 and rook 24 :P
Quote from: JROO8 on October 31, 2013, 12:43:36 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 31, 2013, 12:41:37 PM
Ill give you rookie pick 28 :P and Rookie 44 for Stokes
I'll give you rook 21 and rook 24 :P
flower. I cannot match it!! :(
Ales have rookie 9? going by the ladder?
Sorry been in a meeting at work.
Will reply/address some of the PMs that have been sent shortly.
I would like it to be told infront of everyone what you selling Stokes for so I know what I am dealing with and I'll see if I can match it.
Don't do a Koop and just accept the first deal that he gets.
Quote from: whatlez on October 31, 2013, 02:40:38 PM
I would like it to be told infront of everyone what you selling Stokes for so I know what I am dealing with and I'll see if I can match it.
Don't do a Koop and just accept the first deal that he gets.
I'm not even going to go there. ::)
I'm happy to disclose some of this information publicly although not all. So far no-one's offered a first round rookie or national draft pick for Stokes although one offer is very close to that. A couple of packages of later picks have been offered.
I would at least expect a first round pick for him given what I mentioned before (he's better than almost all the rookie draft options) and his 121 average last season.
I realise some people perhaps have just one high pick which they might see as overs for him however, we would consider sending a pick or picks back as part of the deal to balance things out.
The picks we currently have are as follows:
NAT 12, 32, 33, 37, 41, 60, 76
ROOK: 12, 22, 36, 38, 60, 76
Personally, I wouldn't give more than an early-mid second round ND or first round RD pick for Stokes. That said, Llamas won't be offering either. :P
Why is no one, anywhere near as keen to trading as me and Jroo??
I've probably sent about 35 offers to everyone haha. Actually except Tbag (he has no good players)
Why does no either reply or reject my very favourable offers?? Come on guys, let's trade with me! Or at least reply haha.
Quote from: whatlez on October 31, 2013, 03:15:22 PM
Actually except Tbag (he has no good players)
I'd beg to differ.
Quote from: whatlez on October 31, 2013, 03:15:22 PM
Why is no one, anywhere near as keen to trading as me and Jroo??
I've probably sent about 35 offers to everyone haha. Actually except Tbag (he has no good players)
Why does no either reply or reject my very favourable offers?? Come on guys, let's trade with me! Or at least reply haha.
I was just about to send you a message but Ive exceeded my PM limit :(
I wanted to know what you want for a Shiels + Weller package (reply via PM)
Quote from: NigeyS on October 31, 2013, 03:17:41 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 31, 2013, 03:15:22 PM
Actually except Tbag (he has no good players)
I'd beg to differ.
Sorry there are 3-4 players I would like.
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 31, 2013, 03:18:47 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 31, 2013, 03:15:22 PM
Why is no one, anywhere near as keen to trading as me and Jroo??
I've probably sent about 35 offers to everyone haha. Actually except Tbag (he has no good players)
Why does no either reply or reject my very favourable offers?? Come on guys, let's trade with me! Or at least reply haha.
I was just about to send you a message but Ive exceeded my PM limit :(
I wanted to know what you want for a Shiels + Weller package (reply via PM)
Oh I don't message you either cause you're out of good players. Not being rude, only message the teams with players that I want.
Quote from: NigeyS on October 31, 2013, 03:22:18 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 31, 2013, 03:19:29 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 31, 2013, 03:17:41 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 31, 2013, 03:15:22 PM
Actually except Tbag (he has no good players)
I'd beg to differ.
Sorry there are 3-4 players I would like.
Inb4 all of them are keepers. :P
That's why I don't bother haha. Danger, Wingard, Cameron and maybe Lynch are all untouchable lol.
Quote from: whatlez on October 31, 2013, 03:20:16 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 31, 2013, 03:18:47 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 31, 2013, 03:15:22 PM
Why is no one, anywhere near as keen to trading as me and Jroo??
I've probably sent about 35 offers to everyone haha. Actually except Tbag (he has no good players)
Why does no either reply or reject my very favourable offers?? Come on guys, let's trade with me! Or at least reply haha.
I was just about to send you a message but Ive exceeded my PM limit :(
I wanted to know what you want for a Shiels + Weller package (reply via PM)
Oh I don't message you either cause you're out of good players. Not being rude, only message the teams with players that I want.
flower you too.
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 31, 2013, 03:31:44 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 31, 2013, 03:20:16 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 31, 2013, 03:18:47 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 31, 2013, 03:15:22 PM
Why is no one, anywhere near as keen to trading as me and Jroo??
I've probably sent about 35 offers to everyone haha. Actually except Tbag (he has no good players)
Why does no either reply or reject my very favourable offers?? Come on guys, let's trade with me! Or at least reply haha.
I was just about to send you a message but Ive exceeded my PM limit :(
I wanted to know what you want for a Shiels + Weller package (reply via PM)
Oh I don't message you either cause you're out of good players. Not being rude, only message the teams with players that I want.
flower you too.
Only players I'm interested are Ebert, Hibbard and Hannerbury and they're untouchables.
Quote from: whatlez on October 31, 2013, 03:25:08 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 31, 2013, 03:22:18 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 31, 2013, 03:19:29 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 31, 2013, 03:17:41 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 31, 2013, 03:15:22 PM
Actually except Tbag (he has no good players)
I'd beg to differ.
Sorry there are 3-4 players I would like.
Inb4 all of them are keepers. :P
That's why I don't bother haha. Danger, Wingard, Cameron and maybe Lynch are all untouchable lol.
Spot on. Lynch is gettable, but you'd have to make a pretty stellar offer. We love T-Shirt Tommy!
Quote from: whatlez on October 31, 2013, 03:15:22 PM
Why is no one, anywhere near as keen to trading as me and Jroo??
I've probably sent about 35 offers to everyone haha. Actually except Tbag (he has no good players)
Why does no either reply or reject my very favourable offers?? Come on guys, let's trade with me! Or at least reply haha.
Simple - most have already used up all their list movements and/or happy with their teams.
PS - I think tbag's team has plenty of potentially good players. They aren't there yet but should be some guns in the future.
I haven't really traded with them as they're in a similar position to us now and I didn't think they'd be interested in our older players. Was a bit annoyed they traded Matera early though as I probably would have offered more for him.
Quote from: whatlez on October 31, 2013, 03:25:08 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 31, 2013, 03:22:18 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 31, 2013, 03:19:29 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 31, 2013, 03:17:41 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 31, 2013, 03:15:22 PM
Actually except Tbag (he has no good players)
I'd beg to differ.
Sorry there are 3-4 players I would like.
Inb4 all of them are keepers. :P
That's why I don't bother haha. Danger, Wingard, Cameron and maybe Lynch are all untouchable lol.
Don't forget little Rory Laird ;D Yeah i'm not that interested in trading tbh
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 31, 2013, 04:23:31 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 31, 2013, 03:25:08 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 31, 2013, 03:22:18 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 31, 2013, 03:19:29 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 31, 2013, 03:17:41 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 31, 2013, 03:15:22 PM
Actually except Tbag (he has no good players)
I'd beg to differ.
Sorry there are 3-4 players I would like.
Inb4 all of them are keepers. :P
That's why I don't bother haha. Danger, Wingard, Cameron and maybe Lynch are all untouchable lol.
Don't forget little Rory Laird ;D Yeah i'm not that interested in trading tbh
I think we're pretty set for the draft now. :)
Quote from: NigeyS on October 31, 2013, 04:24:25 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 31, 2013, 04:23:31 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 31, 2013, 03:25:08 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 31, 2013, 03:22:18 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 31, 2013, 03:19:29 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 31, 2013, 03:17:41 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 31, 2013, 03:15:22 PM
Actually except Tbag (he has no good players)
I'd beg to differ.
Sorry there are 3-4 players I would like.
Inb4 all of them are keepers. :P
That's why I don't bother haha. Danger, Wingard, Cameron and maybe Lynch are all untouchable lol.
Don't forget little Rory Laird ;D Yeah i'm not that interested in trading tbh
I think we're pretty set for the draft now. :)
His team was complete once he had Neade ;D
Quote from: NigeyS on October 31, 2013, 03:41:27 PM
Spot on. Lynch is gettable, but you'd have to make a pretty stellar offer. We love T-Shirt Tommy!
Is he gettable though? I made an offer and you said he probably wouldn't be traded!! :o
Quote from: Toga on October 31, 2013, 06:41:49 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 31, 2013, 03:41:27 PM
Spot on. Lynch is gettable, but you'd have to make a pretty stellar offer. We love T-Shirt Tommy!
Is he gettable though? I made an offer and you said he probably wouldn't be traded!! :o
Like I said, we'd need a proper replacement for him. Someone who can match his ridiculously high scores of this season. ;)
Anyone want to send me offers? Lol
Please.
ill give you matera for someone better 8)
Anyone selling premiumish mids who are under the age of around 28
Quote from: whatlez on November 01, 2013, 01:02:44 PM
Anyone selling premiumish mids who are under the age of around 28
I have heaps lol
Quote from: whatlez on November 01, 2013, 01:02:44 PM
Anyone selling premiumish mids who are under the age of around 28
David Mundy fits that bill I think
We are on the prowl for a depth forward. Offering up defensive depth, PM me if interested. :)
Quote from: KoopKicka on November 01, 2013, 09:11:58 PM
We are on the prowl for a depth forward. Offering up defensive depth, PM me if interested. :)
I got depth forwards.. But also heaps of defensive depth... :S
Quote from: tabs on October 30, 2013, 07:38:18 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 30, 2013, 07:27:39 PM
This Period
Elephants Gives: N6
Next Period
Headhunters Gives: Ibbotson
confirm
APRROVEDReasoning: Fairly even trade here. Ibbotson scored very well this year and looks to have become a premium, but also has injury concerns which make him somewhat of a risk.
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 30, 2013, 08:09:35 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 30, 2013, 07:56:24 PM
Revised Trade!
Period 1
Kathmandu give: Beau Maister + Lewis Stevenson
Turkey give: 74
Period 2:
Kathmandu give:
Turkey give: Tom Young
KK to confirm
CONFIRM
APPROVEDReasoning: Pick 74 doesn't mean much, so basically it is Young for Stevenson and Maister. Maister is an in and out player, same with Stevenson, and neither are proven big scorers, yet have potential at their clubs. Young seems to have found a spot in the best 22 so should continue to get games. A bit of risk involved in this trade, but mostly even.
Now I am assuming it is NAT 74 that is the pick involved in this trade, but in future
could everyone please make sure they specify whether they are trading a NAT or Rookie pick.
Quote from: Ricochet on October 30, 2013, 11:26:37 PM
OK... a threesome with a Crocodile, Elephant and Lamb.
Full Deal
Lambs give: Trent West + R62
Lambs get: N26 + N38
Crocs give: Hickey + R7 + R37
Crocs get: West + R6 + R28
Elephants give: N26 + N38 + R6 + R28
Elephants get: Hickey + R7 + R37 + R62
Trade Period 1
Lambs give: Trent West + R62
Lambs get: N26 + N38
Crocs give: R7 + R37
Crocs get: West + R6 + R28
Elephants give: N26 + N38 + R6 + R28
Elephants get: R7 + R37 + R62
Trade Period 2
Crocs give: Hickey
Elephants get: Hickey
APPROVEDReasoning: Wow, this was a big one to approve and process. I'll give reasoning for what all three teams are receiving.
Lambs - Trent West is a player who will get opportunity at a new club and play close to 22 games, so he is worth those picks with a pick swap involved.
Crocodiles - Tom Hickey is much younger and has more scoring potential than West, so he is probably worth marginally more than West, making the pick swaps fair.
Elephants - They move down the pick order a bit, also giving up one pick, and get Hickey in return, picks work out to be quite even.
I must say great trade by the clubs involved, one of the most even 3 way trades I have ever seen!
Quote from: tabs on October 30, 2013, 11:58:07 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 30, 2013, 11:45:44 PM
and then another with tabs, pending the one above
Trade Period 2
Crocodiles give: West
Headhunters give: Witts
tabs confirming
APPROVEDRationale: Fairly easy trade to pass. Witts is young and should develop into a decent, if not prolific scorer, while West will be a good short term scorer.
Quote from: BB67th on November 02, 2013, 02:24:23 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 30, 2013, 08:09:35 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 30, 2013, 07:56:24 PM
Revised Trade!
Period 1
Kathmandu give: Beau Maister + Lewis Stevenson
Turkey give: 74
Period 2:
Kathmandu give:
Turkey give: Tom Young
KK to confirm
CONFIRM
APPROVED
Reasoning: Pick 74 doesn't mean much, so basically it is Young for Stevenson and Maister. Maister is an in and out player, same with Stevenson, and neither are proven big scorers, yet have potential at their clubs. Young seems to have found a spot in the best 22 so should continue to get games. A bit of risk involved in this trade, but mostly even.
Now I am assuming it is NAT 74 that is the pick involved in this trade, but in future could everyone please make sure they specify whether they are trading a NAT or Rookie pick.
Yeah it is NAT 74
Bangkok Crabs give Jack Steven + Matthew Buntine
Australian Ales give JPK + David Swallow
JBs-Hawks to confirm
Gazelles give: National Picks 17 + 49
Dolphins give: Matthew Stokes + 41
Memphs to confirm
Quote from: nostradamus on November 03, 2013, 02:24:55 PM
Bangkok Crabs give Jack Steven + Matthew Buntine
Australian Ales give JPK + David Swallow
JBs-Hawks to confirm
Confirmed!
Really excited to have Jack Steven at the Ales. Shame we lost Swallow but hopefully Buntine can show us why he was drafted so high.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 03, 2013, 02:28:16 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on November 03, 2013, 02:24:55 PM
Bangkok Crabs give Jack Steven + Matthew Buntine
Australian Ales give JPK + David Swallow
JBs-Hawks to confirm
Confirmed!
Really excited to have Jack Steven at the Ales. Shame we lost Swallow but hopefully Buntine can show us why he was drafted so high.
Nice trade JB, you were right :o
I still remember how I had Steven last year :'(
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 03, 2013, 02:28:16 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on November 03, 2013, 02:24:55 PM
Bangkok Crabs give Jack Steven + Matthew Buntine
Australian Ales give JPK + David Swallow
JBs-Hawks to confirm
Confirmed!
Really excited to have Jack Steven at the Ales. Shame we lost Swallow but hopefully Buntine can show us why he was drafted so high.
cheers JB, it was a really good trade negotiation mate........none of the endless pm's back and forth that seem to happen so often
Btw i think this needs to be a trade period 2 trade
Quote from: Noz on November 03, 2013, 02:27:09 PM
Gazelles give: National Picks 17 + 49
Dolphins give: Matthew Stokes + 41
Memphs to confirm
Confirmed!
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 03, 2013, 02:36:18 PM
Btw i think this needs to be a trade period 2 trade
yeah, l wasnt sure and didnt want to confuse the trade by worrying about it. But l'm sure Colli will let us know
*l'll have a look now and see how it'll work
Hmm, I think Bangkok's youngsters are looking like the best of the bunch. Swallow will be a gun and could get a season as a def/mid next year.
Plus they have a host of top draft picks this season. Could be a team to watch out for in a few seasons time.
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 03, 2013, 02:39:05 PM
Quote from: Noz on November 03, 2013, 02:27:09 PM
Gazelles give: National Picks 17 + 49
Dolphins give: Matthew Stokes + 41
Memphs to confirm
Confirmed!
Also I almost forgot on this one. The picks should go through now but Stokes will have to go to the Gazelles next trade period where I have my last list movement OUT.
Quote from: nostradamus on November 03, 2013, 02:31:44 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 03, 2013, 02:28:16 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on November 03, 2013, 02:24:55 PM
Bangkok Crabs give Jack Steven + Matthew Buntine
Australian Ales give JPK + David Swallow
JBs-Hawks to confirm
Confirmed!
Really excited to have Jack Steven at the Ales. Shame we lost Swallow but hopefully Buntine can show us why he was drafted so high.
cheers JB, it was a really good trade negotiation mate........none of the endless pm's back and forth that seem to happen so often
Oh you... ;D
So Jack Steven just floats around in trade land in between periods? ;D
Quote from: specky92 on November 03, 2013, 03:37:17 PM
So Jack Steven just floats around in trade land in between periods? ;D
Yeah l think thats how it works......but l've never done a trade that goes over 2 periods so not 100% sure how it works.
**as usual, am relying on Colli for guidance there
Quote from: nostradamus on November 03, 2013, 03:52:27 PM
Quote from: specky92 on November 03, 2013, 03:37:17 PM
So Jack Steven just floats around in trade land in between periods? ;D
Yeah l think thats how it works......but l've never done a trade that goes over 2 periods so not 100% sure how it works.
**as usual, am relying on Colli for guidance there
I am not too sure on this one here and whether or not you can have players in limbo between trade periods.
There is another trade like it as well so I've asked Colli about it and he can get back to us.
Quote from: BB67th on November 03, 2013, 03:55:20 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on November 03, 2013, 03:52:27 PM
Quote from: specky92 on November 03, 2013, 03:37:17 PM
So Jack Steven just floats around in trade land in between periods? ;D
Yeah l think thats how it works......but l've never done a trade that goes over 2 periods so not 100% sure how it works.
**as usual, am relying on Colli for guidance there
I am not too sure on this one here and whether or not you can have players in limbo between trade periods.
There is another trade like it as well so I've asked Colli about it and he can get back to us.
It's good with us whichever way you decide, my only concern would be if there was potential for us to lose a trade movement because of a technicality.....as it is all part of the one deal
have spoken to BB, bottom line is all players must be on A list at any time.
until we change it it doesnt matter what part of a trade you do in either period or if it is even or not, so one person can give in one period and recieve nothing back until the next period.
but the bottom line is the players cannot be on nobodys list at any time, they have to be AXVS listed at all times.
that's pretty much the only limit on trading over two periods.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on November 03, 2013, 09:38:49 PM
have spoken to BB, bottom line is all players must be on A list at any time.
until we change it it doesnt matter what part of a trade you do in either period or if it is even or not, so one person can give in one period and recieve nothing back until the next period.
but the bottom line is the players cannot be on nobodys list at any time, they have to be AXVS listed at all times.
that's pretty much the only limit on trading over two periods.
cheers Colli.......was my assessment of the trade movements accurate i.e. how many movements us and the Ales have left?
Quote from: nostradamus on November 03, 2013, 09:51:57 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on November 03, 2013, 09:38:49 PM
have spoken to BB, bottom line is all players must be on A list at any time.
until we change it it doesnt matter what part of a trade you do in either period or if it is even or not, so one person can give in one period and recieve nothing back until the next period.
but the bottom line is the players cannot be on nobodys list at any time, they have to be AXVS listed at all times.
that's pretty much the only limit on trading over two periods.
cheers Colli.......was my assessment of the trade movements accurate i.e. how many movements us and the Ales have left?
havent checked for awhile, BB has been running things, you can probably see by the first page of this thread there are list movements (remaining) lists for both periods posted there.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on November 03, 2013, 10:00:20 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on November 03, 2013, 09:51:57 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on November 03, 2013, 09:38:49 PM
have spoken to BB, bottom line is all players must be on A list at any time.
until we change it it doesnt matter what part of a trade you do in either period or if it is even or not, so one person can give in one period and recieve nothing back until the next period.
but the bottom line is the players cannot be on nobodys list at any time, they have to be AXVS listed at all times.
that's pretty much the only limit on trading over two periods.
cheers Colli.......was my assessment of the trade movements accurate i.e. how many movements us and the Ales have left?
havent checked for awhile, BB has been running things, you can probably see by the first page of this thread there are list movements (remaining) lists for both periods posted there.
yeah l used that when l worked it out ;)
Quote from: nostradamus on November 03, 2013, 03:34:49 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on November 03, 2013, 02:47:38 PM
the way l see it working is.......
Trade period 1
Crabs get JPK
Ales get Jack Steven
Trade Period 2
Crabs give Jack Steven + Matthew Buntine
Ales give JPK + David Swallow
Crabs get David Swallow
Ales get Matthew Buntine
leaving both teams with 0 trades for Period 1, and 3 out and 4 in for Period 2
need to alter this......didnt realise Swallow was an on-trade
Trade Period 1
Ales give David Swallow
Crabs get David Swallow
Ales get Jack Steven
Trade Period 2
Ales give JPK
Crabs give Matthew Buntine + Jack Steven
Ales get Matthew Buntine
Crabs get JPK
leaving 0 trades for both teams in period 1
and for Period 2.....
Ales 4 out 4 in
Crabs 3 out 4 in
*so confusing, hope its right this time
ok 3rd time lucky...........
Trade Period 1Ales give David Swallow
Crabs get David Swallow
Trade period 2Ales give JPK
Crabs get JPK
Crabs give Jack Steven + Matthew Buntine
Ales get Jack Steven + Matthew Buntine
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 03, 2013, 02:47:21 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 03, 2013, 02:39:05 PM
Quote from: Noz on November 03, 2013, 02:27:09 PM
Gazelles give: National Picks 17 + 49
Dolphins give: Matthew Stokes + 41
Memphs to confirm
Confirmed!
Also I almost forgot on this one. The picks should go through now but Stokes will have to go to the Gazelles next trade period where I have my last list movement OUT.
Trade Period 1
Gazelles give - National Picks 17 + 49
Dolphins give - National Pick 41
Trade Period 2
Gazelles give - N/A
Dolphins give - Matthew Stokes
Quote from: Noz on November 05, 2013, 06:28:46 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 03, 2013, 02:47:21 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 03, 2013, 02:39:05 PM
Quote from: Noz on November 03, 2013, 02:27:09 PM
Gazelles give: National Picks 17 + 49
Dolphins give: Matthew Stokes + 41
Memphs to confirm
Confirmed!
Also I almost forgot on this one. The picks should go through now but Stokes will have to go to the Gazelles next trade period where I have my last list movement OUT.
Trade Period 1
Gazelles give - National Picks 17 + 49
Dolphins give - National Pick 41
Trade Period 2
Gazelles give - N/A
Dolphins give - Matthew Stokes
Yep perfect. Thanks Noz.
I'm keen for some trading... Buy I pushed for so hard with trades, I'll just take a back seat for a few weeks 8). Unless I get bored :P
Quote from: Noz on November 05, 2013, 06:28:46 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 03, 2013, 02:47:21 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 03, 2013, 02:39:05 PM
Quote from: Noz on November 03, 2013, 02:27:09 PM
Gazelles give: National Picks 17 + 49
Dolphins give: Matthew Stokes + 41
Memphs to confirm
Confirmed!
Also I almost forgot on this one. The picks should go through now but Stokes will have to go to the Gazelles next trade period where I have my last list movement OUT.
Trade Period 1
Gazelles give - National Picks 17 + 49
Dolphins give - National Pick 41
Trade Period 2
Gazelles give - N/A
Dolphins give - Matthew Stokes
APPROVEDReasoning: Stokes on his own is probably worth an early second round pick, the pick swap balances out pick 17. Easy trade to pass here.
Quote from: nostradamus on November 05, 2013, 03:54:41 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on November 03, 2013, 03:34:49 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on November 03, 2013, 02:47:38 PM
the way l see it working is.......
Trade period 1
Crabs get JPK
Ales get Jack Steven
Trade Period 2
Crabs give Jack Steven + Matthew Buntine
Ales give JPK + David Swallow
Crabs get David Swallow
Ales get Matthew Buntine
leaving both teams with 0 trades for Period 1, and 3 out and 4 in for Period 2
need to alter this......didnt realise Swallow was an on-trade
Trade Period 1
Ales give David Swallow
Crabs get David Swallow
Ales get Jack Steven
Trade Period 2
Ales give JPK
Crabs give Matthew Buntine + Jack Steven
Ales get Matthew Buntine
Crabs get JPK
leaving 0 trades for both teams in period 1
and for Period 2.....
Ales 4 out 4 in
Crabs 3 out 4 in
*so confusing, hope its right this time
ok 3rd time lucky...........
Trade Period 1
Ales give David Swallow
Crabs get David Swallow
Trade period 2
Ales give JPK
Crabs get JPK
Crabs give Jack Steven + Matthew Buntine
Ales get Jack Steven + Matthew Buntine
Confirmed again :)
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 05, 2013, 07:19:16 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on November 05, 2013, 03:54:41 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on November 03, 2013, 03:34:49 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on November 03, 2013, 02:47:38 PM
the way l see it working is.......
Trade period 1
Crabs get JPK
Ales get Jack Steven
Trade Period 2
Crabs give Jack Steven + Matthew Buntine
Ales give JPK + David Swallow
Crabs get David Swallow
Ales get Matthew Buntine
leaving both teams with 0 trades for Period 1, and 3 out and 4 in for Period 2
need to alter this......didnt realise Swallow was an on-trade
Trade Period 1
Ales give David Swallow
Crabs get David Swallow
Ales get Jack Steven
Trade Period 2
Ales give JPK
Crabs give Matthew Buntine + Jack Steven
Ales get Matthew Buntine
Crabs get JPK
leaving 0 trades for both teams in period 1
and for Period 2.....
Ales 4 out 4 in
Crabs 3 out 4 in
*so confusing, hope its right this time
ok 3rd time lucky...........
Trade Period 1
Ales give David Swallow
Crabs get David Swallow
Trade period 2
Ales give JPK
Crabs get JPK
Crabs give Jack Steven + Matthew Buntine
Ales get Jack Steven + Matthew Buntine
Confirmed again :)
APPROVEDReasoning: Steven > JPK and Swallow > Buntine. With Swallow set to get DPP next year as well they are all replaced by players in the same position as well. Steven has just about become the number 1 mid at St Kilda, while Kennedy took a bit of a back step this year. Swallow is a bit further along in his development than Buntine, who still will take a bit of time to develop before he scores well consistently.
Thanks for such a good trade JB, the negotiations were speedy and done with good will.
**A very good trade for both teams 8)
someone trade with me :(
Quote from: KoopKicka on November 06, 2013, 02:46:26 PM
someone trade with me :(
You didn't respond to my most recent PM! :'(
Quote from: Toga on November 06, 2013, 07:16:17 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on November 06, 2013, 02:46:26 PM
someone trade with me :(
You didn't respond to my most recent PM! :'(
Yeah Coop, you didn't respond to my most recent PM. ;)
Quote from: NigeyS on November 06, 2013, 07:18:32 PM
Quote from: Toga on November 06, 2013, 07:16:17 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on November 06, 2013, 02:46:26 PM
someone trade with me :(
You didn't respond to my most recent PM! :'(
Yeah Coop, you didn't respond to my most recent PM. ;)
or mine !!!!! ......oh wait......l didnt send one :P
Quote from: nostradamus on November 06, 2013, 07:41:19 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on November 06, 2013, 07:18:32 PM
Quote from: Toga on November 06, 2013, 07:16:17 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on November 06, 2013, 02:46:26 PM
someone trade with me :(
You didn't respond to my most recent PM! :'(
Yeah Coop, you didn't respond to my most recent PM. ;)
or mine !!!!! ......oh wait......l didnt send one :P
I actually sent the PM after the above post. ;D
Bangkok Crabs give Josh Thomas + Nat 36 + Nat 67
Turkish Gazelles give Shaun Atley + Nat 23 + Nat 41
Noz to confirm
Quote from: nostradamus on November 07, 2013, 06:14:28 PM
Bangkok Crabs give Josh Thomas + Nat 36 + Nat 67
Turkish Gazelles give Shaun Atley + Nat 23 + Nat 41
Noz to confirm
Confirmed!
Another great trade for both teams
We get a sorely needed back and some draft upgrades, and Noz gets a young gun mid who is very likely to get mpp
.......cheers Noz, good doing business with you mate
Yeah good to get a trade done without a lot of back and forth messages.
Quote from: Noz on November 07, 2013, 06:21:26 PM
Yeah good to get a trade done without a lot of back and forth messages.
you can say that again mate
Would have to say that all negotiations with either Noz or Nost go extremely quickly. Well ones I've seen or been involved in
Yeah my trade with Nost went super quick this year and another one we did in Euros went pretty smooth as well.
It always seems to go well when both parties know what they want and dont be greedy
Quote from: Colliwobblers on September 05, 2013, 11:47:30 AM
TRADE #3: PRE-APPROVED CANNOT BE CANCELLED and these players CANNOT be traded or delisted now.
Crocodiles Give: Coniglio + Murdoch
Dolphins Give: Ablett + Enright
Rationale: See trade #25 in trade period #1 for reasoning.
TRADE #11: PRE-APPROVED CANNOT BE CANCELLED and these players CANNOT be traded or delisted now.
Crocodiles give: Michael Hurley
Gazelles give: Heath Shaw
Rationale: See trade #36 in first trade period.
Crocs give: Hickey
Elephants get: Hickey
Rationale: See trade #39 in first trade period.
TRADE #15: PRE-APPROVED
Crocodiles give: Trent West
Head Hunters give: Jarrod Witts
Rationale: Fairly easy trade to pass. Witts is young and should develop into a decent, if not prolific scorer, while West will be a good short term scorer.
REMAINING LIST MOVEMENTS:
Kathmandu Eskimoes ( 5 OUT ) - ( 4 IN )
Tibetan Llamas ( 3 OUT ) - ( 3 IN )
Bangkok Crabs ( 4 IN ) - ( 3 OUT )
Vietnam Vipers ( 3 OUT ) - ( 3 IN )
KL Crocodiles ( 0 OUT ) - ( 1 IN )
Laos Elephants ( 4 OUT ) - ( 3 IN )
UAE Tigers ( 1 OUT ) - ( 1 IN )
Australian Ales ( 3 IN ) - ( 4 OUT )
Sri Lanka Strikers (2 OUT ) - ( 3 IN )
Turkey Gazelles ( 3 OUT ) - ( 3 IN )
PNG Head Hunters ( 1 OUT ) - ( 1 IN )
Taiwan Dolphins ( 0 OUT ) - ( 0 IN )
Hong Kong Dongs ( 5 )
Mongolian Lambs ( 3 OUT ) - ( 3 IN )
Manila Folders ( 5 )
Bangladesh Bears ( 2 OUT ) - ( 2 IN )
Coll or BB just wanna check this. Because West was a traded in player, shouldn't KL have 1 OUT and 1 IN left for trade period 2. I cut out all the other trades and just left ours above. Didn't realise we used so many :-[
Quote from: Ricochet on November 07, 2013, 07:04:57 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on September 05, 2013, 11:47:30 AM
TRADE #3: PRE-APPROVED CANNOT BE CANCELLED and these players CANNOT be traded or delisted now.
Crocodiles Give: Coniglio + Murdoch
Dolphins Give: Ablett + Enright
Rationale: See trade #25 in trade period #1 for reasoning.
TRADE #11: PRE-APPROVED CANNOT BE CANCELLED and these players CANNOT be traded or delisted now.
Crocodiles give: Michael Hurley
Gazelles give: Heath Shaw
Rationale: See trade #36 in first trade period.
Crocs give: Hickey
Elephants get: Hickey
Rationale: See trade #39 in first trade period.
TRADE #15: PRE-APPROVED
Crocodiles give: Trent West
Head Hunters give: Jarrod Witts
Rationale: Fairly easy trade to pass. Witts is young and should develop into a decent, if not prolific scorer, while West will be a good short term scorer.
REMAINING LIST MOVEMENTS:
Kathmandu Eskimoes ( 5 OUT ) - ( 4 IN )
Tibetan Llamas ( 3 OUT ) - ( 3 IN )
Bangkok Crabs ( 4 IN ) - ( 3 OUT )
Vietnam Vipers ( 3 OUT ) - ( 3 IN )
KL Crocodiles ( 0 OUT ) - ( 1 IN )
Laos Elephants ( 4 OUT ) - ( 3 IN )
UAE Tigers ( 1 OUT ) - ( 1 IN )
Australian Ales ( 3 IN ) - ( 4 OUT )
Sri Lanka Strikers (2 OUT ) - ( 3 IN )
Turkey Gazelles ( 3 OUT ) - ( 3 IN )
PNG Head Hunters ( 1 OUT ) - ( 1 IN )
Taiwan Dolphins ( 0 OUT ) - ( 0 IN )
Hong Kong Dongs ( 5 )
Mongolian Lambs ( 3 OUT ) - ( 3 IN )
Manila Folders ( 5 )
Bangladesh Bears ( 2 OUT ) - ( 2 IN )
Coll or BB just wanna check this. Because West was a traded in player, shouldn't KL have 1 OUT and 1 IN left for trade period 2. I cut out all the other trades and just left ours above. Didn't realise we used so many :-[
My mistake Ric, missed that one when approving trades. Will fix that up for you :)
Quote from: BB67th on November 07, 2013, 07:19:39 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 07, 2013, 07:04:57 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on September 05, 2013, 11:47:30 AM
TRADE #3: PRE-APPROVED CANNOT BE CANCELLED and these players CANNOT be traded or delisted now.
Crocodiles Give: Coniglio + Murdoch
Dolphins Give: Ablett + Enright
Rationale: See trade #25 in trade period #1 for reasoning.
TRADE #11: PRE-APPROVED CANNOT BE CANCELLED and these players CANNOT be traded or delisted now.
Crocodiles give: Michael Hurley
Gazelles give: Heath Shaw
Rationale: See trade #36 in first trade period.
Crocs give: Hickey
Elephants get: Hickey
Rationale: See trade #39 in first trade period.
TRADE #15: PRE-APPROVED
Crocodiles give: Trent West
Head Hunters give: Jarrod Witts
Rationale: Fairly easy trade to pass. Witts is young and should develop into a decent, if not prolific scorer, while West will be a good short term scorer.
REMAINING LIST MOVEMENTS:
Kathmandu Eskimoes ( 5 OUT ) - ( 4 IN )
Tibetan Llamas ( 3 OUT ) - ( 3 IN )
Bangkok Crabs ( 4 IN ) - ( 3 OUT )
Vietnam Vipers ( 3 OUT ) - ( 3 IN )
KL Crocodiles ( 0 OUT ) - ( 1 IN )
Laos Elephants ( 4 OUT ) - ( 3 IN )
UAE Tigers ( 1 OUT ) - ( 1 IN )
Australian Ales ( 3 IN ) - ( 4 OUT )
Sri Lanka Strikers (2 OUT ) - ( 3 IN )
Turkey Gazelles ( 3 OUT ) - ( 3 IN )
PNG Head Hunters ( 1 OUT ) - ( 1 IN )
Taiwan Dolphins ( 0 OUT ) - ( 0 IN )
Hong Kong Dongs ( 5 )
Mongolian Lambs ( 3 OUT ) - ( 3 IN )
Manila Folders ( 5 )
Bangladesh Bears ( 2 OUT ) - ( 2 IN )
Coll or BB just wanna check this. Because West was a traded in player, shouldn't KL have 1 OUT and 1 IN left for trade period 2. I cut out all the other trades and just left ours above. Didn't realise we used so many :-[
My mistake Ric, missed that one when approving trades. Will fix that up for you :)
Would you be able to look at mine too BB? :)
I'm pretty sure I'm meant to 2 IN and 1 OUT.
Thanks BB. If you happen to just type 5 IN and 5 OUT that would be great too
Quote from: JROO8 on November 07, 2013, 07:21:49 PM
Quote from: BB67th on November 07, 2013, 07:19:39 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 07, 2013, 07:04:57 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on September 05, 2013, 11:47:30 AM
TRADE #3: PRE-APPROVED CANNOT BE CANCELLED and these players CANNOT be traded or delisted now.
Crocodiles Give: Coniglio + Murdoch
Dolphins Give: Ablett + Enright
Rationale: See trade #25 in trade period #1 for reasoning.
TRADE #11: PRE-APPROVED CANNOT BE CANCELLED and these players CANNOT be traded or delisted now.
Crocodiles give: Michael Hurley
Gazelles give: Heath Shaw
Rationale: See trade #36 in first trade period.
Crocs give: Hickey
Elephants get: Hickey
Rationale: See trade #39 in first trade period.
TRADE #15: PRE-APPROVED
Crocodiles give: Trent West
Head Hunters give: Jarrod Witts
Rationale: Fairly easy trade to pass. Witts is young and should develop into a decent, if not prolific scorer, while West will be a good short term scorer.
REMAINING LIST MOVEMENTS:
Kathmandu Eskimoes ( 5 OUT ) - ( 4 IN )
Tibetan Llamas ( 3 OUT ) - ( 3 IN )
Bangkok Crabs ( 4 IN ) - ( 3 OUT )
Vietnam Vipers ( 3 OUT ) - ( 3 IN )
KL Crocodiles ( 0 OUT ) - ( 1 IN )
Laos Elephants ( 4 OUT ) - ( 3 IN )
UAE Tigers ( 1 OUT ) - ( 1 IN )
Australian Ales ( 3 IN ) - ( 4 OUT )
Sri Lanka Strikers (2 OUT ) - ( 3 IN )
Turkey Gazelles ( 3 OUT ) - ( 3 IN )
PNG Head Hunters ( 1 OUT ) - ( 1 IN )
Taiwan Dolphins ( 0 OUT ) - ( 0 IN )
Hong Kong Dongs ( 5 )
Mongolian Lambs ( 3 OUT ) - ( 3 IN )
Manila Folders ( 5 )
Bangladesh Bears ( 2 OUT ) - ( 2 IN )
Coll or BB just wanna check this. Because West was a traded in player, shouldn't KL have 1 OUT and 1 IN left for trade period 2. I cut out all the other trades and just left ours above. Didn't realise we used so many :-[
My mistake Ric, missed that one when approving trades. Will fix that up for you :)
Would you be able to look at mine too BB? :)
I'm pretty sure I'm meant to 2 IN and 1 OUT.
Yes, that is also correct, seems I missed Hutchings when looking at your last trade as he was already involved in a trade in the second period.
Thanks BB 8)
BB, I believe mine needs some adjusting too, I should have 3 IN 3 OUT for the second trade period, could you confirm this please? Im just in the process of making a trade and need to know please. :)
Quote from: KoopKicka on November 07, 2013, 09:14:00 PM
BB, I believe mine needs some adjusting too, I should have 3 IN 3 OUT for the second trade period, could you confirm this please? Im just in the process of making a trade and need to know please. :)
Yes you are right as well there, strange that your first trade wasn't counted at all....
Quote from: BB67th on November 07, 2013, 09:29:31 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on November 07, 2013, 09:14:00 PM
BB, I believe mine needs some adjusting too, I should have 3 IN 3 OUT for the second trade period, could you confirm this please? Im just in the process of making a trade and need to know please. :)
Yes you are right as well there, strange that your first trade wasn't counted at all....
i look after koop and give him extra movements by not counting some of his trades...
this because he is a nice guy and more so due to his DP.
;D
Quote from: Colliwobblers on November 07, 2013, 09:41:37 PM
Quote from: BB67th on November 07, 2013, 09:29:31 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on November 07, 2013, 09:14:00 PM
BB, I believe mine needs some adjusting too, I should have 3 IN 3 OUT for the second trade period, could you confirm this please? Im just in the process of making a trade and need to know please. :)
Yes you are right as well there, strange that your first trade wasn't counted at all....
i look after koop and give him extra movements by not counting some of his trades...
this because he is a nice guy and more so due to his DP.
;D
l only just noticed she has a face :o
Quote from: nostradamus on November 07, 2013, 10:44:18 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on November 07, 2013, 09:41:37 PM
Quote from: BB67th on November 07, 2013, 09:29:31 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on November 07, 2013, 09:14:00 PM
BB, I believe mine needs some adjusting too, I should have 3 IN 3 OUT for the second trade period, could you confirm this please? Im just in the process of making a trade and need to know please. :)
Yes you are right as well there, strange that your first trade wasn't counted at all....
i look after koop and give him extra movements by not counting some of his trades...
this because he is a nice guy and more so due to his DP.
;D
l only just noticed she has a face :o
haha you guys. ;D
Whoring out Rook 6 if anyone is interested. Looking for a defender
Quote from: Ricochet on November 08, 2013, 10:28:24 AM
Whoring out Rook 6 if anyone is interested. Looking for a defender
Can also be packaged with other picks
Jroo wasting your last movement of Curnow? :P
Quote from: Noz on November 07, 2013, 06:15:20 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on November 07, 2013, 06:14:28 PM
Bangkok Crabs give Josh Thomas + Nat 36 + Nat 67
Turkish Gazelles give Shaun Atley + Nat 23 + Nat 41
Noz to confirm
Confirmed!
Just making sure this doesnt get lost ::)
Quote from: RidleyU on November 08, 2013, 08:52:21 PM
Quote from: Noz on November 07, 2013, 06:15:20 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on November 07, 2013, 06:14:28 PM
Bangkok Crabs give Josh Thomas + Nat 36 + Nat 67
Turkish Gazelles give Shaun Atley + Nat 23 + Nat 41
Noz to confirm
Confirmed!
Just making sure this doesnt get lost ::)
Don't worry I get around to all the trades eventually :P
APPROVEDReasoning: Both are good young players, with Thomas worth more on what he has shown in the last year of football, while Atley's development seems to have stagnated somewhat.
Also the Crabs do not have the list movements for this trade to all go through this period, so the picks will be this period and the players next period. In future, please specify what parts of which trades will go in which period.
i believe BB has all trades processed, if any outstanding send me a pm and i will process. how good is BB :)
I have been allowing BB to pretty much run things recently so we all get used to him being joint administrator.
I have my prospectus arriving in mid december, so all our 2014 team ratings will soon be available.
the 2013 ratings i gave each team based on the champion data player rankings proved to be extremely accurate as to where our teams finished on the ladder.
will be interesting to see which teams rate higher in 2014 and which rate lower. looking forward to seeing the crabs rating for one.
everyone remember the deadline for delistings as per BB pm we need these posted or pm to us by the deadline in order for you to have the vacancies on your lists required to draft as you plan.
Quote from: BB67th on November 08, 2013, 09:09:22 PM
Quote from: RidleyU on November 08, 2013, 08:52:21 PM
Quote from: Noz on November 07, 2013, 06:15:20 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on November 07, 2013, 06:14:28 PM
Bangkok Crabs give Josh Thomas + Nat 36 + Nat 67
Turkish Gazelles give Shaun Atley + Nat 23 + Nat 41
Noz to confirm
Confirmed!
Just making sure this doesnt get lost ::)
Don't worry I get around to all the trades eventually :P
APPROVED
Reasoning: Both are good young players, with Thomas worth more on what he has shown in the last year of football, while Atley's development seems to have stagnated somewhat.
Also the Crabs do not have the list movements for this trade to all go through this period, so the picks will be this period and the players next period. In future, please specify what parts of which trades will go in which period.
Cheers mate
A massive three way trade here.
TRADE PERIOD 1
Tigers give Picks 47ND, 55ND, 23Rook,
48Rook.
Tigers get 71ND, 25Rook.
Headhunters give 71ND
Headhunters get 55ND
Folders give 25Rook.
Folders get 47ND, 23Rook, 48Rook.
TRADE PERIOD 2
Tigers give
Tigers get Farren Ray
Headhunters give Farren Ray
Headhunters get Ed Curnow
Folders give Ed Curnow
Folders get
Tabs and BB67th to confirm.
I get a list movement back by trading in Ray. Tabs uses no list movements.
Quote from: JROO8 on November 08, 2013, 10:31:06 PM
A massive three way trade here.
TRADE PERIOD 1
Tigers give Picks 47ND, 55ND, 23Rook,
48Rook.
Tigers get 71ND, 25Rook.
Headhunters give 71ND
Headhunters get 55ND
Folders give 25Rook.
Folders get 47ND, 23Rook, 48Rook.
TRADE PERIOD 2
Tigers give
Tigers get Farren Ray
Headhunters give Farren Ray
Headhunters get Ed Curnow
Folders give Ed Curnow
Folders get
Tabs and BB67th to confirm.
Quote from: JROO8 on November 08, 2013, 10:32:12 PM
I get a list movement back by trading in Ray. Tabs uses no list movements.
Tabs confirming
hardly a massive trade :o
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 08, 2013, 11:21:32 PM
hardly a massive trade :o
Haha I'm with KB :P the only thing massive about it is the pick swaps...
Quote from: Jayman on November 09, 2013, 12:05:34 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 08, 2013, 11:21:32 PM
hardly a massive trade :o
Haha I'm with KB :P the only thing massive about it is the pick swaps...
Even the picks swaps are ehhh. :P
It was a joke....
How can a swap with Curnow and Ray be a big trade. I forgot to put a few of these after I said it lol. :P :P :P :P :P :P
Quote from: tabs on November 08, 2013, 11:03:00 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on November 08, 2013, 10:31:06 PM
A massive three way trade here.
TRADE PERIOD 1
Tigers give Picks 47ND, 55ND, 23Rook,
48Rook.
Tigers get 71ND, 25Rook.
Headhunters give 71ND
Headhunters get 55ND
Folders give 25Rook.
Folders get 47ND, 23Rook, 48Rook.
TRADE PERIOD 2
Tigers give
Tigers get Farren Ray
Headhunters give Farren Ray
Headhunters get Ed Curnow
Folders give Ed Curnow
Folders get
Tabs and BB67th to confirm.
Quote from: JROO8 on November 08, 2013, 10:32:12 PM
I get a list movement back by trading in Ray. Tabs uses no list movements.
Tabs confirming
Confirm
Colli to approve
Quote from: BB67th on November 09, 2013, 02:18:12 PM
Quote from: tabs on November 08, 2013, 11:03:00 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on November 08, 2013, 10:31:06 PM
A massive three way trade here.
TRADE PERIOD 1
Tigers give Picks 47ND, 55ND, 23Rook,
48Rook.
Tigers get 71ND, 25Rook.
Headhunters give 71ND
Headhunters get 55ND
Folders give 25Rook.
Folders get 47ND, 23Rook, 48Rook.
TRADE PERIOD 2
Tigers give
Tigers get Farren Ray
Headhunters give Farren Ray
Headhunters get Ed Curnow
Folders give Ed Curnow
Folders get
Tabs and BB67th to confirm.
Quote from: JROO8 on November 08, 2013, 10:32:12 PM
I get a list movement back by trading in Ray. Tabs uses no list movements.
Tabs confirming
Confirm
Colli to approve
APPROVED - will update movements, pick list in an hour or two.
all updated.
2nd period trade
Crabs give Rook 19, Eskimos give Kieren Harper
Koops to confirm
Quote from: nostradamus on November 12, 2013, 11:30:09 PM
2nd period trade
Crabs give Rook 19, Eskimos give Kieren Harper
Koops to confirm
Confirm. Good dealings once again Nost and Rids :)
Quote from: KoopKicka on November 12, 2013, 11:31:47 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on November 12, 2013, 11:30:09 PM
2nd period trade
Crabs give Rook 19, Eskimos give Kieren Harper
Koops to confirm
Confirm. Good dealings once again Nost and Rids :)
Ditto mate, a nice quick one 8)
Quote from: nostradamus on November 12, 2013, 11:30:09 PM
2nd period trade
Crabs give Rook 19, Eskimos give Kieren Harper
Koops to confirm
you cannot trade picks in the second trade period the picks are all already used.
so you will have to do this trade in trade period 2, there is no point posting it now because the pick cannot be traded only the player in period 2.
so i suggest the crabs pick who the eskimos want with that pick and then trade for harper in period 2.
Does this work?
Trade Period one:
Crabs give rook 19
Eskimoes get rook 19
Trade Period two
Eskimoes give Kieran Harper
Crabs get Kieran Harper
Quote from: RidleyU on November 13, 2013, 07:10:37 AM
Does this work?
Trade Period one:
Crabs give rook 19
Eskimoes get rook 19
Trade Period two
Eskimoes give Kieran Harper
Crabs get Kieran Harper
cheers Rids, that makes sense ;)
Quote from: nostradamus on November 13, 2013, 08:05:51 AM
Quote from: RidleyU on November 13, 2013, 07:10:37 AM
Does this work?
Trade Period one:
Crabs give rook 19
Eskimoes get rook 19
Trade Period two
Eskimoes give Kieran Harper
Crabs get Kieran Harper
cheers Rids, that makes sense ;)
confirmed if it works.
Quote from: KoopKicka on November 13, 2013, 09:57:28 AM
Quote from: nostradamus on November 13, 2013, 08:05:51 AM
Quote from: RidleyU on November 13, 2013, 07:10:37 AM
Does this work?
Trade Period one:
Crabs give rook 19
Eskimoes get rook 19
Trade Period two
Eskimoes give Kieran Harper
Crabs get Kieran Harper
cheers Rids, that makes sense ;)
confirmed if it works.
l cant see why it wouldnt Koop........
*no players in limbo
*draft pick traded period 1
*both teams have list movements available for period 2
*it's a fair trade that suits both teams needs
what i want to know is
regarding the original trade how did you guys think you could trade picks after the drafts? :o
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 13, 2013, 11:53:31 AM
what i want to know is
regarding the original trade how did you guys think you could trade picks after the drafts? :o
It is was 11 o'clock at night....
Quote from: KoopKicka on November 12, 2013, 11:31:47 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on November 12, 2013, 11:30:09 PM
2nd period trade
Crabs give Rook 19, Eskimos give Kieren Harper
Koops to confirm
Confirm. Good dealings once again Nost and Rids :)
So now the Crabs have both the players from that infamous Masten/Blair 4 Motlop/Harper trade. Motlop already fired at the Crabs this season so I really wouldn't be surprised to see Harper do the same next year.
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 13, 2013, 12:39:48 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on November 12, 2013, 11:31:47 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on November 12, 2013, 11:30:09 PM
2nd period trade
Crabs give Rook 19, Eskimos give Kieren Harper
Koops to confirm
Confirm. Good dealings once again Nost and Rids :)
So now the Crabs have both the players from that infamous Masten/Blair 4 Motlop/Harper trade. Motlop already fired at the Crabs this season so I really wouldn't be surprised to see Harper do the same next year.
Hope you're right there Memph :)
the new trade works, next season we will vote but i cannot see us doing these trades over 2 periods any more.
messy indeed :)
however for now that is legal and looks fair enough so I will proess later when i get a chance if BB hasnt / doesn't do so before.
getting close to delistings deadline too.....
vote like WXV? that sucks :'(
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 13, 2013, 05:27:35 PM
vote like WXV? that sucks :'(
Indeed, am sure most of us don't want a system like that? I don't!
Quote from: tbagrocks on November 13, 2013, 05:38:35 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 13, 2013, 05:27:35 PM
vote like WXV? that sucks :'(
Indeed, am sure most of us don't want a system like that? I don't!
no trades will still be processed by administrators, what i mean is we will STOP the trading over two periods. But we will all VOTE on whether we do stop it or not, and the details of the new system.
oh jumped to conclusions i guess lol
Quote from: Colliwobblers on November 13, 2013, 05:40:58 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on November 13, 2013, 05:38:35 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 13, 2013, 05:27:35 PM
vote like WXV? that sucks :'(
Indeed, am sure most of us don't want a system like that? I don't!
no trades will still be processed by administrators, what i mean is we will STOP the trading over two periods. But we will all VOTE on whether we do stop it or not, and the details of the new system.
l agree it can get a little messy......especially when idiots like me get it wrong, but l think it's a great system. Which only works so well because of you and BB, and is one of the reasons AXV is the best of all the XV comps IMO
well if most of you like it it will stay. I see no issue with it, it is harder to administrate and gets complicated, but that part is fine, it is more a matter of if most coaches think trading across the 2 periods is a good or bad thing.
Having BB will make a lot more possible, will take time to implement new features but we should be able to improve and add to the comp to make it better as we work out how when and why...
Trade period 1
Tigers give Picks 43ND, Rook 25
Tigers get Rook 56, rook 58
Vipers give Pick Rook 20
Vipers get Picks 43ND, Rook 17
Ales give Rook 17, Rook 56, Rook 58
Ales get Rook 20, Rook 25
Trade period 2
Tigers give Matt McDonough
Tigers get Majak Daw + Paul Puopolo
Vipers give Majak Daw + Paul Puopolo
Vipers get Matt McDonough
Colli and JB to confirm.
Confirm
confirm, not real good at this am I :)
but poops may not be a starter for me all going well and i like mcdoughnuts. sad too see daw go so cheap but cant ask too much for a guy who hasn't proven much yet.
Wow, that's going to be a long trade to process.
I'll get around to it sometime tonight.
how's our Harper for Rook 19 trade looking BB ?
JROO's lucky he doesn't coach in BXVs, might have had a mental breakdown not being able to make so many trades. :o :P
Quote from: NigeyS on November 15, 2013, 11:03:28 AM
JROO's lucky he doesn't coach in BXVs, might have had a mental breakdown not being able to make so many trades. :o :P
Haha ;D
It is only my twelfth trade, I think ::) :P
Quote from: JROO8 on November 15, 2013, 11:11:57 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on November 15, 2013, 11:03:28 AM
JROO's lucky he doesn't coach in BXVs, might have had a mental breakdown not being able to make so many trades. :o :P
Haha ;D
It is only my twelfth trade, I think ::) :P
BXVs allows ten trades across two periods. ;)
Its his 12 because of on trading, trading back. AXV trading is actually more strict due to only 10 out and 10 in.
They're kinda hard to compare though, there are a fair few differences. The in and out system here as opposed to the 1-for-1 or the equivalent rule in BXVs and so on and so forth.
Quote from: JROO8 on November 14, 2013, 10:46:10 PM
Trade period 1
Tigers give Picks 43ND, Rook 25
Tigers get Rook 56, rook 58
Vipers give Pick Rook 20
Vipers get Picks 43ND, Rook 17
Ales give Rook 17, Rook 56, Rook 58
Ales get Rook 20, Rook 25
Trade period 2
Tigers give Matt McDonough
Tigers get Majak Daw + Paul Puopolo
Vipers give Majak Daw + Paul Puopolo
Vipers get Matt McDonough
Colli and JB to confirm.
This is the kind of trade which is confusing as hell. Seems like the Tigers win this one quite comfortably unless McDonough turns into a gun (which isn't out of the question).
I don't even get the logic in this trade for Colli.
Daw was like asked for heaps then sells for nothing...
Collie just succumbs to jroos persistence :P
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 15, 2013, 02:21:06 PM
Collie just succumbs to jroos persistence :P
And I dont get how room 56 + 58 turns into 25 lol.
Jroo = Jb >>>>>>>> Cw.
This is actually a horribly 2 sided trade.
trading finishes monday yeah?
Err I don't care lol.
Quote from: nostradamus on November 15, 2013, 08:36:56 AM
how's our Harper for Rook 19 trade looking BB ?
That one is fine and will be approved and processed when I get around to it :)
Quote from: KoopKicka on November 13, 2013, 09:57:28 AM
Quote from: nostradamus on November 13, 2013, 08:05:51 AM
Quote from: RidleyU on November 13, 2013, 07:10:37 AM
Does this work?
Trade Period one:
Crabs give rook 19
Eskimoes get rook 19
Trade Period two
Eskimoes give Kieran Harper
Crabs get Kieran Harper
cheers Rids, that makes sense ;)
confirmed if it works.
APPROVEDReasoning: Fairly easy trade to approve here. Harper seems to have taken a few backwards steps in the pecking order at North recently, so rookie 19 is now decent compensation for him.
Quote from: JROO8 on November 14, 2013, 10:46:10 PM
Trade period 1
Tigers give Picks 43ND, Rook 25
Tigers get Rook 56, rook 58
Vipers give Pick Rook 20
Vipers get Picks 43ND, Rook 17
Ales give Rook 17, Rook 56, Rook 58
Ales get Rook 20, Rook 25
Trade period 2
Tigers give Matt McDonough
Tigers get Majak Daw + Paul Puopolo
Vipers give Majak Daw + Paul Puopolo
Vipers get Matt McDonough
Colli and JB to confirm.
This trade I am not so sure on, mainly on the part of CW. Across the two periods he:
Gives: Rookie 20 + Majak Daw + Paul Puopolo
Gets: Rookie 17 + NAT 43 + Matt McDonough
The rookie pick upgrade isn't much so pretty much he is giving up Daw - an extremely exciting young ruckman, and Puopolo - an established goalkicker who this format favours for a third round pick and a guy who has played one game that I have literally never heard of before.
Now am I missing something with this kid? Because I don't really see how this trade is even at all if he is just a regular young player who has only played one game so far.
McDonough will be good, but at present, that trade isn't fair.
Quote from: BB67th on November 15, 2013, 09:31:08 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on November 14, 2013, 10:46:10 PM
Trade period 1
Tigers give Picks 43ND, Rook 25
Tigers get Rook 56, rook 58
Vipers give Pick Rook 20
Vipers get Picks 43ND, Rook 17
Ales give Rook 17, Rook 56, Rook 58
Ales get Rook 20, Rook 25
Trade period 2
Tigers give Matt McDonough
Tigers get Majak Daw + Paul Puopolo
Vipers give Majak Daw + Paul Puopolo
Vipers get Matt McDonough
Colli and JB to confirm.
This trade I am not so sure on, mainly on the part of CW. Across the two periods he:
Gives: Rookie 20 + Majak Daw + Paul Puopolo
Gets: Rookie 17 + NAT 43 + Matt McDonough
The rookie pick upgrade isn't much so pretty much he is giving up Daw - an extremely exciting young ruckman, and Puopolo - an established goalkicker who this format favours for a third round pick and a guy who has played one game that I have literally never heard of before.
Now am I missing something with this kid? Because I don't really see how this trade is even at all if he is just a regular young player who has only played one game so far.
Daw is also unproven, but more proven then McDonough and Puopolo isn't exactly young (26 next moth) and I wouldn't say he's an established goal kicker. McDonough is a young and very promising young forward, who has had impressive numbers as a junior. Colli hopes he becomes a premuim scoring forward, which there is a good chance he could in the future. I can see your concern as it looks as I win at the moment, but it's not that bad. Colli also has a few good ruckmen and Puopolo isn't very valuable to Colli as he is going for a youthful team.
So what happens next?
McDonowho?
Collie gets murdered in this trade irrespective of whether Puopolo is an established goal-kicker or not.
I'd like to get Colli's thoughts on the trade next to see his reasons for it.
This trade is like as bad as we've had in Asians lol
no mcdonuts is going to be a star, no question. but puopolo as i warned jroo would be asking too much after averaging 94.
my reasoning is simple, he is not a required player for my team and never will be, after floating him on the market i received zero interest from any other coach.
now everyone seems interested however :) the irony of trading .....
really to me the trade is all about daw for mcdonuts, the puoplo for pick 43 is a total rip off to be sure, but irrelevant to me.
understand it is blocked and cannot really argue the point. I did offer a couple of significantly lesser players than puoplo to start with, he is just who we ended up with.
still keen to get mcdonuts but i guess the other parties in the trade or mainly jroo will have to go to bb to see what he can change to get it through.
as for mr mcdonuts:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-06-11/mcdonough-a-natural
http://www.aflplayerratings.com.au/Ratings/Player/117918/Matt-MCDONOUGH
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-10-15/matt-mcdonough-in-focus
Prospectus: Mcdonough was the third ranked forward in champion date ranking points behind joe daniher and troy menzel at the 2012 u18 champs. played 10 games for SA at the 2011 and 2012 champs booting multiple goals in 8 games and finishing with a total of 31. at u18 level he dominated averaging 29 disposals and kicking 15 goals in 9 matches. was an elite ball winner in sanfl u18.
Freako: "watch his development closely, could be a future star in supercoach".
not a bad prospect - people sjould read up a bit before speaking out too strongly against new players ;) this one will be a good'n, full preseason and named round 1 will be a rook i'll seriously consider in fantasy comps next season at basement price.
maybe keep your eye on him too :)
now you've all made me educate you on mcdonuts jroo probably wont give him up :)
Hey I would of paid rook 40 for Pop ?
Hell I would of paid 10 fold that to get pops. I didn't know he was on the market ???
I love how this happens after every single trade. Even when people advertise it. ::) Happened with every trade I did last year. Pull your head in people and chase someone if you want them. Dont wait for someone to come to you. You cant say you wouldve paid more becuase you never expressed any interest, regardless of whether it was advertised or not.
Whatlez would have given rookie 4 for Pop... Surely not :P
But colli said he advertised him... And got zero interest...
as a mid only the risk is for puoplo he becomes irrelevant, but at least for next season he is still a 94 averaging fwd.
i still havent recieved any genuine offers for him imo :)
not expecting the phone to start ringing .....
still trade cant be ridiculously uneven, and while i personally dont think this is one that disadvantages other teams by its uneveness i cant argue it is on the surface borderline ridiculous
still i am a fan of the diamonds in the rough, the stars of the future, mcdonuts could be one of them or another tom ledger, but to me for a player who will warm my pine all season and for the rest of his career it was a risk worth taking.
still bb probably right to block it and we will have to see if a more even deal can be worked out.
just because i dont want a player doesnt make the deal even or fair. still think most of you underrate mcdonuts.
Tigers seem pretty impressed by him....
Given McDonough was Pick 42 originally I can see why you might block it. If he was a higher pick then maybe.
However, given the whole it doesn't unbalance the competition - no team gains a massive advantage rule then I don't see why this trade should have passed.
To be honest I can't really see any of the players involved in the trade ever becoming a full-blown star (read premo) no matter how Colli spruiks McDonuts. Daw possibly but I think he'll maybe have a good half a season, or at most two seasons, and then fade into obscurity.
If people want to take gambles or make bad trades then fair enough unless someone's literally giving stars away for peanuts.
Quote from: whatlez on November 15, 2013, 11:31:25 PM
But colli said he advertised him... And got zero interest...
for the record lez, this isnt BXVS, puoplo in axvs is the 74th ranked fwd, we only start 64 each week in axvs unless extra get started in the utility line.
if he becomes mid only, which i reckon he might in another year, well he would be down around the 130th rank mark.
26 years old, not in my best xv by a long way. (wright,matera,pettard,howe,lewis johnston,ben reid )
then i reckon troy menzel, billie smedts, nick heynes(gws), even karpark, will all go past him within a season.....
if you have a promising youngster you are willing to part with for the poop, let me know.
but you wont offer and nor will anyone else, becasue despite all the fuss - no one wants the poop here :)
gee if you have a 6 pack of xxxx gold i'll take that :)
but the trade is bogus :)
if i had to rule on it i would block it too, but trust me - it works for me.
as for daw, the guy doesn't seem to be likely to ever get footy smarts. i doubt he will be on an afl list in another year.
sure he is exciting and athletic, but his understanding of the game after 3 seasons at senior vfl level, concerns me....
Are people aware Daw has had knee surgery last year? His preseason will be very interrupted. Currie also re-signed at the Roos. So this effectively means he is third in line if and when he gets back into it.
McDonough is a very good kid. Very Chapman like footballer. He will play a lot of footy over the next few years.
Puopolo is never going to be much more than a depth player. Everyone obviously loves him and the way he plays but he is only a few bad games away from not being certain best 22.
All parties are competent and have agreed to this trade. Yes there is a clear loser in the 3 teams involved at the moment. Footy is a funny game and anything can happen. As a Tiger supporter, I actually expect guys like McDonough and Arnot to pass guys like King and Titch very quickly. Time will tell though. I cant see any reason why it should be blocked personally.
Hopefully all parties can work something out as we are all aware how many messages it takes to get any deal done at times.
I reckon Jroo should give up more and there is really no point of JB even being in the trade hahaha
Quote from: whatlez on November 16, 2013, 09:31:30 AM
I reckon Jroo should give up more and there is really no point of JB even being in the trade hahaha
Haha JB was there just to give Colli a pick upgrade.
I told Colli I would be willing to add another pick, but it all depends on what BB decides.
As Colli said you have to look beyond their averages, as based on that it looks clearly unfair (a 94 average fwd + Daw for a 30 or so average fwd). I think McDnough is a few years away and since I want to challenge for a premiership in the next few years, it was best to bring in two depth players for one who are likely to play next year.
Anyway lets wait for BB's decision.
I think the rule is in place though to stop people taking advatage of others with trading.
Colli seems very aware of the trade and the fact he is currently losing but is willing to still go ahead with it. Only Colli truly knows where he wants his team to be in a few years time and that obviously is without Puopolo.
I think it sets a precedent you dont want to go down is all. I will go do some more gardening now haha.
I think it's uneven but not enough cause a massive stir.
Although Majak did post 193 against the Bullies this year in his only full game. But he was very quiet in others.
Okay the trades been changed. I've added 44ND and Colli gave me a late rook pick which he wasn't going to use, as I need another pick so I have enough picks to ensure I have a full list.
Trade period 1
Tigers give Picks 43ND, 44ND, Rook 25
Tigers get Rook 56, Rook 58, Rook 68
Vipers give Pick Rook 20, Rook 68
Vipers get Picks 43ND, 44ND, Rook 17
Ales give Rook 17, Rook 56, Rook 58
Ales get Rook 20, Rook 25
Trade period 2
Tigers give Matt McDonough
Tigers get Majak Daw + Paul Puopolo
Vipers give Majak Daw + Paul Puopolo
Vipers get Matt McDonough
Colli to confirm, JB doesn't have to as his trade doesn't change.
confirm, the part of this that benefits me that others cant see yet, even more so benefits me now, as i have 5 picks i do not need to use, now 6.
so i will be using the two picks i recieved in the 40's plus one of mine in the 30's to potentially get a pick in the 20's that i will use.
so you have to consider it as me giving up poops and daw for mcdonuts and a pick i will use in the 20's.
so the big picture for me is a fair bit better than just this trade suggests.
still the bottom line is neither daw or poops would ever have played a game for me given who i have on my list ahead of them, so i really lose nothing, just gain.
anyway confirm.
when processing this trade and others BB i believe the rule is when you trade a player out the player you trade in regardless of what list of the team who had his he was on - he goes onto the same list of yours as the player you traded out.
so mcdonuts will go on my senior list in trade period 2 replacing daw or puoplo.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on November 16, 2013, 03:14:00 PM
when processing this trade and others BB i believe the rule is when you trade a player out the player you trade in regardless of what list of the team who had his he was on - he goes onto the same list of yours as the player you traded out.
so mcdonuts will go on my senior list in trade period 2 replacing daw or puoplo.
So Daw or Puopolo goes onto my rookie list?
If so, then I can upgrade McDonough to the senior list using 71ND as he is still on my list until next trade period and that means both Daw and Pup will be on my senior list, correct?
yes our trade does not happen until after the draft so if you use a late nat pick to upgrade him that will be correct the player you trade in for him will go on your senior list.
I will be sending out a very detailed PM to all coaches fully explaining all aspects of delisting and drafting today, as well as how your list will be managed/ topped up or reduced following trade period 2. (where some teams will be over limit and some under).
Quote from: Colliwobblers on November 16, 2013, 03:19:03 PM
yes our trade does not happen until after the draft so if you use a late nat pick to upgrade him that will be correct the player you trade in for him will go on your senior list.
I will be sending out a very detailed PM to all coaches fully explaining all aspects of delisting and drafting today, as well as how your list will be managed/ topped up or reduced following trade period 2. (where some teams will be over limit and some under).
Thanks, as soon as BB approves this trade I'll post my delistings.
So if anyone needs to use a lot of picks in the draft let me know if you have any interest in trading a pick in the 20's or even in the 30's for these 3
N43 , N44, N52.
AXVS ANNOUNCEMENT
EXPLANATION OF DELISTINGS / DRAFTING / LIST MANAGEMENTDELISTINGS:You must lodge your delistings by the deadline of midnight November 19.
Your delistings must be for both you senior listed players and your rookie listed players.
You need to check your current lits here: http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,86823.msg1199346.html#msg1199346
This is the only accurate record of your list. If you feel there are any errors immediately PM BB and myself.
In order to take national draft picks and preseason/rookie draft picks you need to have the spaces on your list beneath the caps of 40 and 6 to fit the drafted players in.
DRAFTINGThe official draft order: http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,86823.msg1199347.html#msg1199347
You can take as many of the national draft picks and rookie/preseason draft picks that are available to your club as you have room on your list to take. Once you have filled your list back up to the caps of 40 and 6 you can no longer draft and will have to pass on any further picks, you cannot draft players to take your list past the caps of 40 and 6.
You can use national draft picks to promote players on your rookie list to your senior list.
Every player you draft in the national draft
MUST ONLY go onto your senior list.
Players you draft in the preseason/rookie draft which are ( afl 2013 preseason drafted, left over players from the 2013 axvs national draft, axvs 2013 delisted players still on afl lists, axvs players in the pool from 2012 drafts) can go on
EITHER your senior list or your rookie list.
Players you draft in the preseason/rookie draft which are afl 2013 rookie drafted players
MUST ONLY go on your rookie list.
* With this in mind when you are delisting consider not only the spots you need on your senior list for national draft picks you want to take, but also, rookie promotions you wish to make, AND preseason/rookie picks you intend to take where you will want the player you pick to go onto your senior list.
for example if you have rookie pick #1 you are going to want a spot on your senior list for that player or he will be stuck on your rookie list for the entire 2014 season unable to play unless you have a long term injury and upgrade him mid season.
THERE WILL BE 5 COMPLETE ROUNDS IN EACH OF THE DRAFTS. NO 6TH ROUND.LIST MANAGEMENT POST TRADE PERIOD #2Due to this seasons change of being able to trade uneven numbers of players, in trade period 2 some teams will end up trading out more players than they trade in, and likewise some teams will end up trading more players in than they trade out.
At the completion of trade period 2 lists will be brought back to the cap limits of 40 and 6 in two simple steps.
STEP 1. The teams with more than the cap of 40 and 6 players on their lists willhave to delist players to take their lists back to the cap of 40 and 6.
NOTE: These teams cannot delist players they have drafted in either draft in 2013. They must be other players.
STEP 2. The teams with less than the cap of 40 and 6 players on their lists will have to take picks from the remaining pool of players to bring their lists back up to the cap of 40 and 6.
NOTE: These picks will happen in the original pre trade draft order until all lists are full.
If you have any questions or do not understand any of the above please PM BB or myself asap.
The player lists for every team will be posted in the official DRAFT thread as soon as the delisting deadline is reached and everyone will be able to see their list after delistings and see exactly how many spots they have for drafting.
Due to this being the first season of having to delist unless BB disagrees strongly I will allow in the time between the delisting deadline and commencement of our national draft teams to delist further players if once they see their final list they feel they made a mistake and need more room on their lists for draft picks.
THIS DOES NOT CHANGE THE FACT YOU MUST POST YOUR DELISTINGS BY THE DEADLINE.
KEEP IN MIND THIS OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE THINGS WILL BE VERY VERY SHORT SO BETTER YOU THINK ABOUT IT NOW AND GET IT RIGHT BEFORE THE DEADLINE.
Quote from: JROO8 on November 16, 2013, 02:38:50 PM
Okay the trades been changed. I've added 44ND and Colli gave me a late rook pick which he wasn't going to use, as I need another pick so I have enough picks to ensure I have a full list.
Trade period 1
Tigers give Picks 43ND, 44ND, Rook 25
Tigers get Rook 56, Rook 58, Rook 68
Vipers give Pick Rook 20, Rook 68
Vipers get Picks 43ND, 44ND, Rook 17
Ales give Rook 17, Rook 56, Rook 58
Ales get Rook 20, Rook 25
Trade period 2
Tigers give Matt McDonough
Tigers get Majak Daw + Paul Puopolo
Vipers give Majak Daw + Paul Puopolo
Vipers get Matt McDonough
Colli to confirm, JB doesn't have to as his trade doesn't change.
APPROVEDReasoning: Adding in this extra pick for Colli evens things out a bit and as he says, he has a grand plan for it. I still think it is a bit uneven, but not so much that I will deny it, seeing as all coaches involved know their repsective risks in completing the trade.
Also, we are reaching the character limits in the trade posts on the opening page, so from now on I will be going through and deleting the reasoning for some trades and will no longer be posting the reasoning on the opening page, I will just post it when I approve the trade.
thanks BB, with 6-8 players on my delisting cutting block, these two were likely to go anyway :)
also take a look over my recent PM if you see anything missing from the announcement or that needs changing let me know.
think it is pretty much as we discussed.
bump - one offer so far.... looking to get this done today/tonight
Quote from: Colliwobblers on November 16, 2013, 03:31:26 PM
So if anyone needs to use a lot of picks in the draft let me know if you have any interest in trading a pick in the 20's or even in the 30's for these 3
N43 , N44, N52.
Surely pop wasn't going to get delisted?? And Jroo said Daw is a 30 ave forward? Not about that. Considering why would he want him lol.
But it's alright I guess.
Quote from: whatlez on November 16, 2013, 06:04:06 PM
Surely pop wasn't going to get delisted?? And Jroo said Daw is a 30 ave forward? Not about that. Considering why would he want him lol.
But it's alright I guess.
Puopolo isn't young and I can see where Colli coming from. Puopolo isn't in his long term plans.
I said McDonouts was a 30 ave fwd I'm pretty sure and not Daw ???
Oh I read it wrong my bad. Remember, look at pops last 5 plus semi final and you will see the huge increase from his overall average. Just saying
Quote from: whatlez on November 16, 2013, 06:12:17 PM
Oh I read it wrong my bad. Remember, look at pops last 5 plus semi final and you will see the huge increase from his overall average. Just saying
#BXVsaviour ;D
Quote from: specky92 on November 16, 2013, 06:13:07 PM
Quote from: whatlez on November 16, 2013, 06:12:17 PM
Oh I read it wrong my bad. Remember, look at pops last 5 plus semi final and you will see the huge increase from his overall average. Just saying
#BXVsaviour ;D
#limpedustoWorldCupfinal
Quote from: whatlez on November 16, 2013, 06:15:56 PM
Quote from: specky92 on November 16, 2013, 06:13:07 PM
Quote from: whatlez on November 16, 2013, 06:12:17 PM
Oh I read it wrong my bad. Remember, look at pops last 5 plus semi final and you will see the huge increase from his overall average. Just saying
#BXVsaviour ;D
#limpedustoWorldCupfinal
>:( Pup knocked me out of the World Cup the spud.
poops had the run of his life but is never going to be consistant enough to be a best 4 fwd starter for anyone, not in AXVS.
will be a pressure applying fwd going fwd with possible mid rotations, but definatley on the inside not the outside.
yes british xvs he was gold.
in axvs im not likely to start him over 7 other fwds i have.
and yes he was on my chopping block, after my first 5 delistings it is a semi decent player i have to cut or a youth with potential.
i would sooner cut puopolo than the likes of smedts or nick heynes or taylor garner or the raft of other high draft pick youngsters i have coming through.
the question from my point of view is not what is puoplo worth now compared to mcdonuts , it is what are they worth compared in 2 seasons time.
ask that question and you get an idea of my though process, i am not silly enough to think the deal favours me this season coming maybe not the next but i believe when my youth all come through together in 2-3 seasons mcdonuts could be a gun fwd, puoplo wont be... he will be the same.
Another announcement here, everyone.
Colli and I have decided that the first trade period will officially end on the 18th of Novermber, that being Monday, at 5PM AEDT. We will end it there so we have time to finalise everything before the list lodgement with delistings the following day and then drafting during the upcoming week.
Sorry for leaving it a little late to tell everyone. I hope everyone can still get their trades done in time.
Mcdonuts will probably not play a game.
Quote from: whatlez on November 16, 2013, 08:25:22 PM
Mcdonuts will probably not play a game.
Maybe not next year but after that he should be close to a regular in our team.
Time for me to jump on the pick swapping bandwagon as well. I don't need all of my rookie picks, so I have a few picks up for trade to package for a higher rookie pick.
Rookie 48 + Rookie 63 + Rookie 79
That's what I have to offer and I will take anything higher than rookie 48 for them. I'd even take rookie 47, but I already have that pick :P
Quote from: JROO8 on November 16, 2013, 08:26:24 PM
Quote from: whatlez on November 16, 2013, 08:25:22 PM
Mcdonuts will probably not play a game.
Maybe not next year but after that he should be close to a regular in our team.
Okay that was harsh.
Quote from: whatlez on November 16, 2013, 08:25:22 PM
Mcdonuts will probably not play a game.
you didn't read my spiel on him ::)
he played one already this season what makes you think after all the hype out of the tigers camp itself that they won't give him a game?
the best user of the footy in all their reserves a prolific ball winner when run in the middle, and a multiple goal kicker who is a strong and reliable mark....
not sure why all the doubt ;) I look forward to gloating next season...
Quote from: Colliwobblers on November 16, 2013, 08:47:50 PM
Quote from: whatlez on November 16, 2013, 08:25:22 PM
Mcdonuts will probably not play a game.
you didn't read my spiel on him ::)
he played one already this season what makes you think after all the hype out of the tigers camp itself that they won't give him a game?
the best user of the footy in all their reserves a prolific ball winner when run in the middle, and a multiple goal kicker who is a strong and reliable mark....
not sure why all the doubt ;) I look forward to gloating next season...
Can I have him back :P
I may be open to collecting a couple more picks for the drafts but to those who have PM'd me inquiring it won't be until something else happens or doesn't happen.
When/if that does then I'll let you know how many picks I'm chasing.
Going to be pushing the deadline on a few deals I think.
Quite a trade reached here between rivals Manila and Mongolia.
Trade Period 1
Manila give: Alex Rance + Hayden Ballantyne + NAT 22
Mongolia give: Nick Malceski + Josh Hill + NAT 38
Trade Period 2
Mongolia give: Brian Lake
Manila receive: Brian Lake
Toga to confim and Colli to approve
Quote from: BB67th on November 17, 2013, 01:01:16 PM
Quite a trade reached here between rivals Manila and Mongolia.
Trade Period 1
Manila give: Alex Rance + Hayden Ballantyne + NAT 22
Mongolia give: Nick Malceski + Josh Hill + NAT 38
Trade Period 2
Mongolia give: Brian Lake
Manila receive: Brian Lake
Toga to confim and Colli to approve
So basically its
Malceski for Lake
Rance + Ballantyne for Josh Hill
lol
No its Rance + Ballantyne for Malceski + Lake + Hill
Quote from: Noz on November 17, 2013, 01:03:49 PM
Quote from: BB67th on November 17, 2013, 01:01:16 PM
Quite a trade reached here between rivals Manila and Mongolia.
Trade Period 1
Manila give: Alex Rance + Hayden Ballantyne + NAT 22
Mongolia give: Nick Malceski + Josh Hill + NAT 38
Trade Period 2
Mongolia give: Brian Lake
Manila receive: Brian Lake
Toga to confim and Colli to approve
So basically its
Malceski for Lake
Rance + Ballantyne for Josh Hill
lol
Or basically
Malceski + Hill + Lake + Pick 38
For
Rance + Ballantyne + Pick 22
Looks good to me.
Quote from: BB67th on November 17, 2013, 01:01:16 PM
Quite a trade reached here between rivals Manila and Mongolia.
Trade Period 1
Manila give: Alex Rance + Hayden Ballantyne + NAT 22
Mongolia give: Nick Malceski + Josh Hill + NAT 38
Trade Period 2
Mongolia give: Brian Lake
Manila receive: Brian Lake
Toga to confim and Colli to approve
Confirm 8)
Thanks BB, I really like this trade. Developed some depth in my back line so felt that I could spare Malceski (a top 15 defender this year) to improve my forward depth, which I've done by recruiting Ballantyne. Now stay on the park you angry little man :P
Oh, and I get just about my favourite player in the Trossman! :D
Good trade, but stop giving Manila defenders. :P
Quote from: Toga on November 17, 2013, 01:14:56 PM
Quote from: BB67th on November 17, 2013, 01:01:16 PM
Quite a trade reached here between rivals Manila and Mongolia.
Trade Period 1
Manila give: Alex Rance + Hayden Ballantyne + NAT 22
Mongolia give: Nick Malceski + Josh Hill + NAT 38
Trade Period 2
Mongolia give: Brian Lake
Manila receive: Brian Lake
Toga to confim and Colli to approve
Confirm 8)
APPROVED: Think BB wins the trade but not by a margin that should concern anyone. Lake is old and josh hill is not of huge value and pick 22 is worth a lot more than pick 38, actually think it is very even in hindsight.
Quote from: Adamant on November 17, 2013, 01:30:02 PM
Good trade, but stop giving Manila defenders. :P
This trade is good, gives us 3 very high scoring premiums in the backline with Malceski replacing Rance, and it only cost us our forward depth in Ballantyne to get some depth in Lake and Hill.
will process shortly BB and update everything in both trade thread and draft thread pick list.
ALL UPDATED - everything in trade thread, lists in delistings thread, and pick order in draft thread.
Rance and 22 were mine :P
Quote from: whatlez on November 17, 2013, 02:08:24 PM
Rance and 22 were mine :P
They were. So I turned Aaron Hall, Pick 28 and Hayden Ballantyne into Malceski, Lake, Hill and Pick 38. Not a bad outcome I think 8)
Quote from: BB67th on November 17, 2013, 02:12:43 PM
Quote from: whatlez on November 17, 2013, 02:08:24 PM
Rance and 22 were mine :P
They were. So I turned Aaron Hall, Pick 28 and Hayden Ballantyne into Malceski, Lake, Hill and Pick 38. Not a bad outcome I think 8)
BB I am out of touch with the trades so if you or the Lambys ontraded can you adjust the list movements to reflect.
I took 2 in and out off each of you for period 1, and 1 in off you in period 2 and 1 out of the lambs in period 2.
Thanks Mate.
Rance was on traded by Manila, but all the other players were original players from their teams I think CW :)
Yep I have fixed that up now, giving myself back 1 OUT movement because Rance was an on-trade.
Quote from: BB67th on November 17, 2013, 02:36:35 PM
Yep I have fixed that up now, giving myself back 1 OUT movement because Rance was an on-trade.
thanks guys, thought rance was lez's remember him forgetting to start him one week early in the season and crowing about it :)
Some big rumblings about to happen. :o
Kathmandu Eskimos give: Pick 1
Taiwan Dolphins give: Pick 12 + Isaac Smith
Reason: We needed another midfielder and Smith, as a goalkicking one, fitted the bill perfectly, however he has little to no scope for improvement. So Pick 12 is there to amend that. Memph gets a prodigy wonderkid who could turn out to average 150-160 SB in the future. Long after Smith is past it.
Memph to confirm.
Quote from: KoopKicka on November 17, 2013, 05:51:25 PM
Kathmandu Eskimos give: Pick 1
Taiwan Dolphins give: Pick 12 + Isaac Smith
Reason: We needed another midfielder and Smith, as a goalkicking one, fitted the bill perfectly, however he has little to no scope for improvement. So Pick 12 is there to amend that. Memph gets a prodigy wonderkid who could turn out to average 150-160 SB in the future. Long after Smith is past it.
Memph to confirm.
Confirm.
Gary Ablett has now essentially become Stephen Coniglio and Tom Boyd (I will be taking him with Pick 1 for sure).
Rebuild via this trade period complete. Though I believe we can now pick up one more player in.
It does leaves us silly short in the mid department though but that will have to be remedied in the draft. The chance to pick up Boyd was too much to pass up.
PS - Koops I think Smith still has scope for improvement. Plenty of it given he was a late comer to AFL ranks.
Big trade guys! Did my best to get my hands on that pick but doesn't really suit our structures re: our premiership window and all that, plus I probably wouldn't have had enough LM's.
Pretty even IMO although if Boyd is as good as they all say who knows! :)
ill let BB process this, don't see a problem with it myself, extremely valuable pick this year for AXVS, but i think it is paid for with 12 and smith, tho i would prefer tom boyd myself i am not sure when processing the trade we can take into consideration who gets taken with the pick.
i agree smith can improve further and pick 12 will be a very decent prospect, so again i see no issues with the trade. But BB can process it I am out of touch with the movements currently and working on the delistings and existing player pool.
well done guys.
Reckon Koop just wins on the trade, but very even. Nice guys.
actually, this needs to be altered for the periods.
Period 1:
Eskimos Give: Pick 1
Dolphins Give: Pick 12
Period 2:
Eskimos Give:
Dolphins Give: Smith
Memph to confirm again, should leave me with 2 IN 2 OUT remaining for period 2.
Quote from: KoopKicka on November 17, 2013, 06:08:27 PM
actually, this needs to be altered for the periods.
Period 1:
Eskimos Give: Pick 1
Dolphins Give: Pick 12
Period 2:
Eskimos Give:
Dolphins Give: Smith
Memph to confirm again, should leave me with 2 IN 2 OUT remaining for period 2.
I assume you're out of list movements this period then? Smith is being on-traded so shouldn't count for anything for me except to free up a player movement in as I didn't get a player for him.
Speaking of which - who wants to trade me a player in.
I'll happily take those extra draft picks you're offering now and give you a higher one in return - however I would ideally like a young midfielder as part of the deal. Doesn't have to have shown much/anything yet.
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 17, 2013, 06:18:55 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on November 17, 2013, 06:08:27 PM
actually, this needs to be altered for the periods.
Period 1:
Eskimos Give: Pick 1
Dolphins Give: Pick 12
Period 2:
Eskimos Give:
Dolphins Give: Smith
Memph to confirm again, should leave me with 2 IN 2 OUT remaining for period 2.
I assume you're out of list movements this period then? Smith is being on-traded so shouldn't count for anything for me except to free up a player movement in as I didn't get a player for him.
Speaking of which - who wants to trade me a player in.
I'll happily take those extra draft picks you're offering now and give you a higher one in return - however I would ideally like a young midfielder as part of the deal. Doesn't have to have shown much/anything yet.
Yes that is correct unfortunately. Confirm Memph?
If anyone wants to do a last minute trade with me, I'm all ears.
Quote from: whatlez on November 17, 2013, 06:37:19 PM
If anyone wants to do a last minute trade with me, I'm all ears.
I would like Barlow, don't have much to give though. :-\
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 17, 2013, 06:18:55 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on November 17, 2013, 06:08:27 PM
actually, this needs to be altered for the periods.
Period 1:
Eskimos Give: Pick 1
Dolphins Give: Pick 12
Period 2:
Eskimos Give:
Dolphins Give: Smith
Memph to confirm again, should leave me with 2 IN 2 OUT remaining for period 2.
I assume you're out of list movements this period then? Smith is being on-traded so shouldn't count for anything for me except to free up a player movement in as I didn't get a player for him.
Speaking of which - who wants to trade me a player in.
I'll happily take those extra draft picks you're offering now and give you a higher one in return - however I would ideally like a young midfielder as part of the deal. Doesn't have to have shown much/anything yet.
APPROVEDAlso Memph you are out of list movements for the second period so no one can trade you a player in.
ill update the pick list on the draft thread only BB.
Quote from: KoopKicka on November 17, 2013, 06:24:41 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 17, 2013, 06:18:55 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on November 17, 2013, 06:08:27 PM
actually, this needs to be altered for the periods.
Period 1:
Eskimos Give: Pick 1
Dolphins Give: Pick 12
Period 2:
Eskimos Give:
Dolphins Give: Smith
Memph to confirm again, should leave me with 2 IN 2 OUT remaining for period 2.
I assume you're out of list movements this period then? Smith is being on-traded so shouldn't count for anything for me except to free up a player movement in as I didn't get a player for him.
Speaking of which - who wants to trade me a player in.
I'll happily take those extra draft picks you're offering now and give you a higher one in return - however I would ideally like a young midfielder as part of the deal. Doesn't have to have shown much/anything yet.
Yes that is correct unfortunately. Confirm Memph?
Yes, still confirm.
who needs my pick bundle offer - i added rook 17 to the mix :)
noz has first right to reply but i am keen to get a deal done.
by the way i am updating all lists and posting the delistings for each club here : http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,86825.msg1199381.html#msg1199381
remember these can be added to or changed up until the deadline on the 19th, however since no more movements or delistings or signings will occur in the AFL the sooner everyone can work out confirm and post their final delistings in the thread the better.
gives you time to look at what your final team looks like pre draft, here : http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,86825.msg1199545.html#msg1199545
Quote from: BB67th on November 17, 2013, 07:03:25 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 17, 2013, 06:18:55 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on November 17, 2013, 06:08:27 PM
actually, this needs to be altered for the periods.
Period 1:
Eskimos Give: Pick 1
Dolphins Give: Pick 12
Period 2:
Eskimos Give:
Dolphins Give: Smith
Memph to confirm again, should leave me with 2 IN 2 OUT remaining for period 2.
I assume you're out of list movements this period then? Smith is being on-traded so shouldn't count for anything for me except to free up a player movement in as I didn't get a player for him.
Speaking of which - who wants to trade me a player in.
I'll happily take those extra draft picks you're offering now and give you a higher one in return - however I would ideally like a young midfielder as part of the deal. Doesn't have to have shown much/anything yet.
APPROVED
Also Memph you are out of list movements for the second period so no one can trade you a player in.
Based on the way Colli explained it to me before when I was confused I believe I can.
Now over two periods I will only have 9 differnt new players on my list (picks don't count from what I understand) compared to before.
These are: Coniglio, Bennell, Tuohy, Guthrie, Terlich, Murdoch, Gumbleton, Colquhoun and Rioli.
I have moved on 10 different original players though so can not trade anyone out. They are: Zaharakis, Ablett, Enright, Edwards, Lewis, Jackson, McGlynn, Adcock, Stokes and Sloane.
This latest trade should give me a list movement IN back because before Smith was the 10th different player on that first list.
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 17, 2013, 08:10:27 PM
Quote from: BB67th on November 17, 2013, 07:03:25 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 17, 2013, 06:18:55 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on November 17, 2013, 06:08:27 PM
actually, this needs to be altered for the periods.
Period 1:
Eskimos Give: Pick 1
Dolphins Give: Pick 12
Period 2:
Eskimos Give:
Dolphins Give: Smith
Memph to confirm again, should leave me with 2 IN 2 OUT remaining for period 2.
I assume you're out of list movements this period then? Smith is being on-traded so shouldn't count for anything for me except to free up a player movement in as I didn't get a player for him.
Speaking of which - who wants to trade me a player in.
I'll happily take those extra draft picks you're offering now and give you a higher one in return - however I would ideally like a young midfielder as part of the deal. Doesn't have to have shown much/anything yet.
APPROVED
Also Memph you are out of list movements for the second period so no one can trade you a player in.
Based on the way Colli explained it to me before when I was confused I believe I can.
Now over two periods I will only have 9 differnt new players on my list (picks don't count from what I understand) compared to before.
These are: Coniglio, Bennell, Tuohy, Guthrie, Terlich, Murdoch, Gumbleton, Colquhoun and Rioli.
I have moved on 10 different original players though so can not trade anyone out. They are: Zaharakis, Ablett, Enright, Edwards, Lewis, Jackson, McGlynn, Adcock, Stokes and Sloane.
This latest trade should give me a list movement IN back because before Smith was the 10th different player on that first list.
Ah yes, you are correct actually. I will fix that up now.
Im on the hunt for a top 10 rook pick, willing to give up defensive depth, PM me with any offers.
Quote from: KoopKicka on November 17, 2013, 08:47:41 PM
Im on the hunt for a top 10 rook pick, willing to give up defensive depth, PM me with any offers.
Look in your back pocket, you mind Pick 3 :P...
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 17, 2013, 08:53:56 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on November 17, 2013, 08:47:41 PM
Im on the hunt for a top 10 rook pick, willing to give up defensive depth, PM me with any offers.
Look in your back pocket, you mind Pick 3 :P...
Another one :P
Quote from: KoopKicka on November 17, 2013, 08:59:12 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 17, 2013, 08:53:56 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on November 17, 2013, 08:47:41 PM
Im on the hunt for a top 10 rook pick, willing to give up defensive depth, PM me with any offers.
Look in your back pocket, you mind Pick 3 :P...
Another one :P
we'll give you Kieren Harper for it :o
A 10 pick is worth more than defender depth lol.
Massive trade here :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Tigers give 71ND
Lambs give 78ND + Rook 78
Toga to confirm :)
Ive made a mistake on mine, should be 1 IN 2 OUT for second trade period.
Quote from: JROO8 on November 18, 2013, 09:33:01 AM
Massive trade here :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Tigers give 71ND
Lambs give 78ND + Rook 78
Toga to confirm :)
He's breaking my balls here but I guess CONFIRM :P
Really a nothing trade, Jroo needed an extra pick and I won't be using any of the picks involved!
Then that's cheating! :P
Quote from: whatlez on November 18, 2013, 12:43:13 PM
Then that's cheating! :P
not sure Whatlez, I had an offer for a trade for picks and given I was not going to use the pick I traded in for the ones I traded out I thought it would not pass as the trade was only achieving one thing which was helpingthe other club.
but when looking at it from both sides, as long as the trade is fair and even the fact one side doesn not use the traded picks makes no difference, if the team who will use the picks it recieves and has paid a fair price for them then the trade is even and does not disadvantage any other club.
if it was just a gift of picks with nothing paid in return - then yes that would be cheating / blocked.
this one above again I will let BB process it and approve it, it will be close, but given the lateness of the nat picks it should pass.
rook 78 is almost worthless, but so are N71 and N78 so while the guy getting N71 wins, it is not by much certainly not enough to raise an eyebrow..
Remember that the trade thread officially closes in HALF AN HOUR everyone, so any last minute trades, get them in.
hoping for a late one here BB 8)
Turkish Gazelles give Daniel Rich + Nat 10 + Nat 29
Bangkok Crabs give Josh P Kennedy (ontrade)
All in trade period 1
Noz to confirm
Don't worry if you go a little overtime fellas, I won't mind too much. As long as the trade is posted tonight though, that's probably the latest I will accept any.
Open to last minute offers for combinations from Rook 6, Rook 28, Rook 53, Rook 69, Rook 74, Nat 53, Nat 69.
Quote from: nostradamus on November 18, 2013, 04:45:50 PM
Turkish Gazelles give Daniel Rich + Nat 10 + Nat 29
Bangkok Crabs give Josh P Kennedy (ontrade)
All in trade period 1
Noz to confirm
Confirm!
Since i traded in Daniel Rich as well no list movements have been used.
Open to last minute offers for both Brad Sewell and Luke Ball and so is Jack Viney since my trade fell through with the bagman.
Quote from: Noz on November 18, 2013, 04:47:07 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on November 18, 2013, 04:45:50 PM
Turkish Gazelles give Daniel Rich + Nat 10 + Nat 29
Bangkok Crabs give Josh P Kennedy (ontrade)
All in trade period 1
Noz to confirm
Confirm!
Since i traded in Daniel Rich as well no list movements have been used.
cheers Noz, was good trading with you mate....the negotiations were quick, fair and good for both teams needs
Quote from: nostradamus on November 18, 2013, 04:52:23 PM
Quote from: Noz on November 18, 2013, 04:47:07 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on November 18, 2013, 04:45:50 PM
Turkish Gazelles give Daniel Rich + Nat 10 + Nat 29
Bangkok Crabs give Josh P Kennedy (ontrade)
All in trade period 1
Noz to confirm
Confirm!
Since i traded in Daniel Rich as well no list movements have been used.
cheers Noz, was good trading with you mate....the negotiations were quick, fair and good for both teams needs
Nice work guys.
But wouldn't JPK need to be traded in trade period 2, seeing as you don't get him from JB until then?
Quote from: JROO8 on November 18, 2013, 04:55:08 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on November 18, 2013, 04:52:23 PM
Quote from: Noz on November 18, 2013, 04:47:07 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on November 18, 2013, 04:45:50 PM
Turkish Gazelles give Daniel Rich + Nat 10 + Nat 29
Bangkok Crabs give Josh P Kennedy (ontrade)
All in trade period 1
Noz to confirm
Confirm!
Since i traded in Daniel Rich as well no list movements have been used.
cheers Noz, was good trading with you mate....the negotiations were quick, fair and good for both teams needs
Nice work guys.
But wouldn't JPK need to be traded in trade period 2, seeing as you don't get him from JB until then?
you're right JROO......thanks mate
so now it works like this........
Period 1
Gazelles give Nat 10 + Nat 29
Crabs get Nat 10 + Nat 29
Period 2
Gazelles give Daniel Rich
Crabs get Daniel Rich
Crabs give Josh P Kennedy
Gazelles get Josh P Kennedy
no list movement required as Rich and JPK are both on-trades :)
Yeah mine isnt in on time. Should be soonish though.
Wow that was a bad time to take my lunch break.
Back now to discuss a few options.
Ive exceeded my message limit for the hour. :( :( :(
the late scramble is on ;)
Quote from: Noz on November 18, 2013, 05:29:04 PM
Ive exceeded my message limit for the hour. :( :( :(
Oh damn!
I can't get on chat at work either unfortunately.
I blame Jroo for this.
Quote from: Noz on November 18, 2013, 05:29:04 PM
Ive exceeded my message limit for the hour. :( :( :(
Free-for-all in the trade discussion thread?
Quote from: Noz on November 18, 2013, 05:33:56 PM
I blame Jroo for this.
l blame JROO for everything lol
Quote from: Noz on November 18, 2013, 05:29:04 PM
Ive exceeded my message limit for the hour. :( :( :(
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Quote from: nostradamus on November 18, 2013, 05:38:08 PM
Quote from: Noz on November 18, 2013, 05:33:56 PM
I blame Jroo for this.
l blame JROO for everything lol
:'( :'( :'(
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 18, 2013, 05:36:38 PM
Quote from: Noz on November 18, 2013, 05:29:04 PM
Ive exceeded my message limit for the hour. :( :( :(
Free-for-all in the trade discussion thread?
The trade we were going to do i will NOT be doing it mate.
Quote from: JROO8 on November 18, 2013, 05:41:50 PM
Quote from: Noz on November 18, 2013, 05:29:04 PM
Ive exceeded my message limit for the hour. :( :( :(
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Quote from: nostradamus on November 18, 2013, 05:38:08 PM
Quote from: Noz on November 18, 2013, 05:33:56 PM
I blame Jroo for this.
l blame JROO for everything lol
:'( :'( :'(
*jokes*
Quote from: nostradamus on November 18, 2013, 05:43:44 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on November 18, 2013, 05:41:50 PM
Quote from: Noz on November 18, 2013, 05:29:04 PM
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Quote from: nostradamus on November 18, 2013, 05:38:08 PM
Quote from: Noz on November 18, 2013, 05:33:56 PM
I blame Jroo for this.
l blame JROO for everything lol
:'( :'( :'(
*jokes*
Haha as was I :D
Now to wait for an hour...
I guess I could get some work done :P
Quote from: Noz on November 18, 2013, 05:43:21 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 18, 2013, 05:36:38 PM
Quote from: Noz on November 18, 2013, 05:29:04 PM
Ive exceeded my message limit for the hour. :( :( :(
Free-for-all in the trade discussion thread?
The trade we were going to do i will NOT be doing it mate.
↑
Memph :p
Quote from: KoopKicka on November 18, 2013, 05:57:01 PM
Quote from: Noz on November 18, 2013, 05:43:21 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 18, 2013, 05:36:38 PM
Quote from: Noz on November 18, 2013, 05:29:04 PM
Ive exceeded my message limit for the hour. :( :( :(
Free-for-all in the trade discussion thread?
The trade we were going to do i will NOT be doing it mate.
↑
Memph :p
Alright fair enough. In that case then we can do ours KK.
Vipers Give: N43 + N44 + N52 + R52
Gazelles Give: N36 + R26
Colli to confirm
Eskimos give: Tom Derickx + NAT 46 + Rook 49.
Dolphins give: NAT 32.
Reasoning is a bit sentimental as Derickx is an old school mate of mine and given he was picked up by the Swans today I thought I'd love to have him in my team.
However, he's also now the second ruck at Sydney and could very well see some action in the coming seasons. Had 60 hitouts in one VFL game last year. Though I expect the Swans to go with a Pyke/Tippett combo for most of the season if one of those guys gets injured he could play.
We do also actually need another ruckman as we de-listed Stephensen and Osborn leaving us with just Kreuzer, Jolly (if he gets picked up) and Tom Campbell.
KoopKicka to confirm.
Trade period 1:
Eskimos give: 46 NAT, 49 ROOK
Dolphins give: 32 NAT
Trade period 2:
Eskimos give: Tom Derickx
Taiwan give:
Memph to confirm.
Quote from: KoopKicka on November 18, 2013, 06:08:45 PM
Trade period 1:
Eskimos give: 46 NAT, 49 ROOK
Dolphins give: 32 NAT
Trade period 2:
Eskimos give: Tom Derickx
Taiwan give:
Memph to confirm.
Lol did we post at the same time. Confirm - and yes this is the way the deal needs to be structured I believe sorry.
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 18, 2013, 06:10:26 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on November 18, 2013, 06:08:45 PM
Trade period 1:
Eskimos give: 46 NAT, 49 ROOK
Dolphins give: 32 NAT
Trade period 2:
Eskimos give: Tom Derickx
Taiwan give:
Memph to confirm.
Lol did we post at the same time. Confirm - and yes this is the way the deal needs to be structured I believe sorry.
Yeah sorry an accident on my part.
Quote from: Noz on November 18, 2013, 06:02:35 PM
Vipers Give: N43 + N44 + N52 + R52
Gazelles Give: N36 + R26
Colli to confirm
confirm i may use the N36 and or R26 picks, i would not have used the 4 picks i gave up. given the lateness of all my picks traded and the decent rookie 26 and improved nat 36 i think it falls within the realm of evenness
Does that mean that everyone who wants to trade has now done it? I will give it about half an hour and if no one else would like a little more time to post a trade, I will lock the thread and make the final updates.
Just having a late discussion now. Shouldnt take too long.
Sorry.
Quote from: BB67th on November 18, 2013, 07:17:33 PM
Does that mean that everyone who wants to trade has now done it? I will give it about half an hour and if no one else would like a little more time to post a trade, I will lock the thread and make the final updates.
Im in talks with another person but should be done within the next 10 hopefully unless it falls through
Any late offer for Jarrad Waite?
We are open for any offer for the combination of nat 35, nat 41 and rook 35 if anyone is keen ::)
Last minute trade here reached between Manila and Australia.
Trade Period 1
Manila give: Pick 38
Ales give: Pick 56
Trade Period 2
Manila give: Sam Reid (SYD)
Ales give: Jarrad Waite
Should make our forward line all the more potent, and while it's sad to see Reid go, being one of my favourite players, Waite's scoring potential is what we need to win a premiership.
JB to confirm and Colli to approve.
Confirmed!! Now to get sydney to trade him so he can kick some goals!
:-\
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 18, 2013, 08:43:56 PM
Confirmed!! Now to get sydney to trade him so he can kick some goals!
Or shift him to half-back :P
Quote from: BB67th on November 18, 2013, 08:41:23 PM
Last minute trade here reached between Manila and Australia.
Trade Period 1
Manila give: Pick 38
Ales give: Pick 56
Trade Period 2
Manila give: Sam Reid (SYD)
Ales give: Jarrad Waite
Should make our forward line all the more potent, and while it's sad to see Reid go, being one of my favourite players, Waite's scoring potential is what we need to win a premiership.
JB to confirm and Colli to approve.
APPROVED BB to process please :)
I don't see why people don't want midfield depth guys like Brad Sewell, Luke Ball and Xaiver Ellis still have a lot left in them.
Quote from: Noz on November 18, 2013, 09:12:08 PM
I don't see why people don't want midfield depth guys like Brad Sewell, Luke Ball and Xaiver Ellis still have a lot left in them.
if the Crabs weren't a youth focused team l'm sure we would be
How much longer is the trade period open for?
You guys do realize that we have a whole other period to trade? Be patient :P
Might involve trading picks Jay :)
I was going to close the trade window tonight, but I have been a bit lenient on it, and made a trade myself in that time.
I've decided that I will wait till morning and lock the thread then so everything had better be posted and confirmed by that time. I'll then update all the final lists and pick orders tomorrow night all in time for the draft later in the week.
Sweeet, might be some last minute trading for the Dongs.
Quote from: vinny on November 18, 2013, 09:42:34 PM
Might involve trading picks Jay :)
Exactly Jay :P
Quote from: BB67th on November 18, 2013, 09:46:09 PM
I was going to close the trade window tonight, but I have been a bit lenient on it, and made a trade myself in that time.
I've decided that I will wait till morning and lock the thread then so everything had better be posted and confirmed by that time. I'll then update all the final lists and pick orders tomorrow night all in time for the draft later in the week.
That sounds fair BB, thanks.
A last minute trade here
Trade period 1
Tigers give Picks 21Rook + 58Rook
Dongs give Pick 13ND + Picks 61Rook + 77Rook
Trade period 2
Tigers give Paul Puopolo
Dongs get Paul Puopolo
Basically, we have plenty of forwards and wanted to get a pick in. The Dongs were looking to trade their pick as they clearly aren't going for a youthful team and Puopolo should provide them with some useful depth. Rook 21 will get them a decent player while 61 and 77 are useless and I only need them to fill my list.
Nails/Vinny to confirm
Wow massive win for UAE there :o no way Puopolo + Rook 21 = NAT 13 does it? :o
Yeah solid from UAE haha
I don't know how people give into Jroo's terrible offers lol
That's just sad that they accepted that
Quote from: whatlez on November 18, 2013, 11:10:36 PM
I don't know how people give into Jroo's terrible offers lol
That's just sad that they accepted that
Flower off Lez you're just mad you didn't get Puopolo.
It's not like I pushed this, it was only a case of few PMs and agreed on something pretty quickly.
Obviously people rate draft picks differently and Nails doesn't need them as he is obviously going for the premiership next year.
Have you guys looked at the team that's trading away Pick 13?
We don't want our picks at all and we don't have time to shop it for someone else.
Remember the Dongs lost in the prelim final. How is a random kid who probably won't get games for 2 seasons going to help us? We need forwards and the 93 average Puopolo will be great help as a relief forward.
Confirmed.
Would have given alot more Dongs ;)
Lol calm down Jroo.
I more feel sorry for Colli for getting McDonuts out of Pop haha
Quote from: whatlez on November 18, 2013, 11:15:45 PM
Lol calm down Jroo.
I more feel sorry for Colli for getting McDonuts out of Pop haha
Haha I was joking Lez, you're cool 8)
And well said Nails, a trade may look uneven to some teams but you have to take out their needs and their approach (youth or premiership).
Quote from: Nails on November 18, 2013, 11:14:06 PM
Have you guys looked at the team that's trading away Pick 13?
We don't want our picks at all and we don't have time to shop it for someone else.
Remember the Dongs lost in the prelim final. How is a random kid who probably won't get games for 2 seasons going to help us? We need forwards and the 93 average Puopolo will be great help as a relief forward.
Confirmed.
Pick 12 last year got me an 18yo 97 average forward ;)
I don't have a problem with the trade myself, although that's probably because I don't rate Nat picks that highly. :P
as long as the trade works for both clubs they should both be happy.
as long as it does not DISADVANTAGE the rest of us - SO SHOULD WE.
I would have taken a bag of chips for puopolo but i have no plans for a flag in the next season maybe two.
so my situation is the opposite of Nails.
we will see who averages more in 3 years in AXVS my mcdonuts or puopolo :) you might be surprised - but then so might I.
either way I had no need of him, not in my plans for the future and i have 4 fwds already i back to score more each week. and at least 3 more rising stars behind them.
still i might have taken pick 13 over mcdonuts for poops, not not by much. i rate the kid so does his club.
A late trade between the Gazelles and Crabs
Crabs give Nat 41 , Gazelles give Xavier Ellis
period 1
Crabs give Nat 41
Gazelles get Nat 41
period 2
Gazelles give Xavier Ellis
Crabs get Xavier Ellis
Noz to confirm
Quote from: nostradamus on November 19, 2013, 12:16:09 AM
A late trade between the Gazelles and Crabs
Crabs give Nat 41 , Gazelles give Xavier Ellis
period 1
Crabs give Nat 41
Gazelles get Nat 41
period 2
Gazelles give Xavier Ellis
Crabs get Xavier Ellis
Noz to confirm
Confirm took all but 2 messages :)
Reason behind this is i don't need Ellis as i have a plethora of midfield options anyway and even if he is fit its hard to see him pushing into my best 15.
Now i have national picks 41, 42, 43 and 44.
Who has pick 40 or 45 ;)
Quote from: Noz on November 19, 2013, 12:18:21 AM
Quote from: nostradamus on November 19, 2013, 12:16:09 AM
A late trade between the Gazelles and Crabs
Crabs give Nat 41 , Gazelles give Xavier Ellis
period 1
Crabs give Nat 41
Gazelles get Nat 41
period 2
Gazelles give Xavier Ellis
Crabs get Xavier Ellis
Noz to confirm
Confirm took all but 2 messages :)
Reason behind this is i don't need Ellis as i have a plethora of midfield options anyway and even if he is fit its hard to see him pushing into my best 15.
Now i have national picks 41, 42, 43 and 44.
Who has pick 40 or 45 ;)
Cheers Noz.......yep 2 messages is right.......one to ask and one to accept......who said trading had to be difficult 8)
Regarding the Pick 13 for Poulopolo.
I think it is fair and gets both teams what they want.
We are a flag contender and picks are useless to us, we needed another forward.
He is 93 averaging and ended the year with these scores.
163, 134, 102, 124, 113.
Anyone we draft we 13 is going to be of no use to us.
Rookie upgrade kind if balances it out.
On top of that, we couldn't really shop around.
Well, the first trade window is now closed. I will lock this thread now and update it tonight with lists and pick orders. I will then send those changes on to Colli.
Let's move our discussion over to the other threads now and all get our heads into draft mode!
Quote from: JROO8 on November 18, 2013, 09:33:01 AM
Massive trade here :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Tigers give 71ND
Lambs give 78ND + Rook 78
Toga to confirm :)
Quote from: Noz on November 18, 2013, 04:47:07 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on November 18, 2013, 04:45:50 PM
Turkish Gazelles give Daniel Rich + Nat 10 + Nat 29
Bangkok Crabs give Josh P Kennedy (ontrade)
All in trade period 1
Noz to confirm
Confirm!
Since i traded in Daniel Rich as well no list movements have been used.
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 18, 2013, 06:10:26 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on November 18, 2013, 06:08:45 PM
Trade period 1:
Eskimos give: 46 NAT, 49 ROOK
Dolphins give: 32 NAT
Trade period 2:
Eskimos give: Tom Derickx
Taiwan give:
Memph to confirm.
Lol did we post at the same time. Confirm - and yes this is the way the deal needs to be structured I believe sorry.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on November 18, 2013, 06:27:33 PM
Quote from: Noz on November 18, 2013, 06:02:35 PM
Vipers Give: N43 + N44 + N52 + R52
Gazelles Give: N36 + R26
Colli to confirm
confirm i may use the N36 and or R26 picks, i would not have used the 4 picks i gave up. given the lateness of all my picks traded and the decent rookie 26 and improved nat 36 i think it falls within the realm of evenness
Quote from: Colliwobblers on November 18, 2013, 09:08:48 PM
Quote from: BB67th on November 18, 2013, 08:41:23 PM
Last minute trade here reached between Manila and Australia.
Trade Period 1
Manila give: Pick 38
Ales give: Pick 56
Trade Period 2
Manila give: Sam Reid (SYD)
Ales give: Jarrad Waite
Should make our forward line all the more potent, and while it's sad to see Reid go, being one of my favourite players, Waite's scoring potential is what we need to win a premiership.
JB to confirm and Colli to approve.
APPROVED BB to process please :)
Quote from: JROO8 on November 18, 2013, 11:06:00 PM
A last minute trade here
Trade period 1
Tigers give Picks 21Rook + 58Rook
Dongs give Pick 13ND + Picks 61Rook + 77Rook
Trade period 2
Tigers give Paul Puopolo
Dongs get Paul Puopolo
Basically, we have plenty of forwards and wanted to get a pick in. The Dongs were looking to trade their pick as they clearly aren't going for a youthful team and Puopolo should provide them with some useful depth. Rook 21 will get them a decent player while 61 and 77 are useless and I only need them to fill my list.
Nails/Vinny to confirm
Quote from: nostradamus on November 19, 2013, 12:16:09 AM
A late trade between the Gazelles and Crabs
Crabs give Nat 41 , Gazelles give Xavier Ellis
period 1
Crabs give Nat 41
Gazelles get Nat 41
period 2
Gazelles give Xavier Ellis
Crabs get Xavier Ellis
Noz to confirm
ALL TRADES ABOVE APPROVED AND PROCESSEDAnd I am fairly sure that wraps up our first trade period. Good work everyone on getting through, a whopping 54 trades in that period so it has certainly been a busy period.
If anyone believes I have missed something or made a mistake along the way, or would like reasons for approving any of the above trades, please get in contact with me straight away. :)
TRADE PERIOD #2 IS OFFICIALLY OPEN
All trades listed in trade period #2 are now updated and approved and all list movements have been recorded and all team lists have been updated.
Team lists are on the opening page of this thread, so are listed trades and remaining list movements.
Kathmandu is on the lookout for a sexy midfielder and a decent forward. Benny Howlett and Tendai Mzungu are on the table, please pm myself and Koop if you wish to obtain these gentlemen.
Quote from: specky92 on December 07, 2013, 07:19:42 PM
Kathmandu is on the lookout for a sexy midfielder and a decent forward. Benny Howlett and Tendai Mzungu are on the table, please pm myself and Koop if you wish to obtain these gentlemen.
Ben Howlett is a fwd in 2014 :o
Quote from: RidleyU on December 08, 2013, 07:56:10 AM
Quote from: specky92 on December 07, 2013, 07:19:42 PM
Kathmandu is on the lookout for a sexy midfielder and a decent forward. Benny Howlett and Tendai Mzungu are on the table, please pm myself and Koop if you wish to obtain these gentlemen.
Ben Howlett is a fwd in 2014 :o
f/m if the TooSerious leak is right
Quote from: nostradamus on December 08, 2013, 10:01:44 AM
Quote from: RidleyU on December 08, 2013, 07:56:10 AM
Quote from: specky92 on December 07, 2013, 07:19:42 PM
Kathmandu is on the lookout for a sexy midfielder and a decent forward. Benny Howlett and Tendai Mzungu are on the table, please pm myself and Koop if you wish to obtain these gentlemen.
Ben Howlett is a fwd in 2014 :o
f/m if the TooSerious leak is right
Appears to be legit from the information I am getting.
With nearly every club in Asia sending me trade offers for Brandon Ellis i have decided i will be trading him.
Send in your best offers and maybe you might win the Ellis jackpot.
Quote from: Noz on December 08, 2013, 03:14:30 PM
With nearly every club in Asia sending me trade offers for Brandon Ellis i have decided i will be trading him.
Send in your best offers and maybe you might win the Ellis jackpot.
what position do you want?
Quote from: Colliwobblers on December 08, 2013, 03:29:48 PM
Quote from: Noz on December 08, 2013, 03:14:30 PM
With nearly every club in Asia sending me trade offers for Brandon Ellis i have decided i will be trading him.
Send in your best offers and maybe you might win the Ellis jackpot.
what position do you want?
Forward or Defenders.
so elllis is not a defender any more according to these supposed changes?
Nope just a mid.
Quote from: Noz on December 08, 2013, 03:14:30 PM
With nearly every club in Asia sending me trade offers for Brandon Ellis i have decided i will be trading him.
Send in your best offers and maybe you might win the Ellis jackpot.
Really? Jroo sending 200 messages doesn't count
Id probably have to cough up half my side to get a "fair" trade with jroo
Quote from: Noz on December 08, 2013, 05:02:31 PM
Id probably have to cough up half my side to get a "fair" trade with jroo
Says the guy who offered pick 10 for Griffen or Lids, lol.
I wouldn't mind Ellis, but don't need another mid :-\
10 isn't far off for one of those guys considering their age. Probably 5-10 is about right.
R Griff is just about worth pick 1 imo. People value picks too highly.
He's only ever had one year over 100 in DT and is 28 next year. Def not worth #1
Quote from: Ricochet on December 08, 2013, 06:52:02 PM
He's only ever had one year over 100 in DT and is 28 next year. Def not worth #1
Pick 6 didn't get much bite. Ibbo was alright for it
Well for Puopolo I got 13 and tbh I wouldn't trade either of them for pick 1 and 2.
And Noz, I only brought that up to say that I'm not the only one who apparently offers 'unfair trades', I've had some terrible offers from coaches but don't constantly sook about it.
I don't think there will be much trading, most teams seem happy with their team and aren't looking to trade.
Pick 10 for Griffen or Lids haha. They're definitely worth the number 1 pick.
I'm still open to trade ;)
Quote from: Ricochet on December 08, 2013, 07:11:54 PM
I'm still open to trade ;)
But you don't want to trade your guns (well, I guess no one wants to trade their guns) plus you need forwards and I'm trying to get another forward.
I'm looking for a gun mid, can offer up one of my premo defenders (besides Mitchell) and LeCras for a gun mid + a solid depth defender.
Haha that's not true, all my guys are available but offers have to be decent.
Two average mids for one gun mid doesn't really help me sorry man
Actually on that note, who the flower has all the fwds? No one seems to have any to trade
We have a surplus of mids at the moment so the likes of Nick Dal Santo, Nathan Foley and Bernie Vince are all up for trade. One of Sam Gilbert and Brian Lake could also probably be moved. Ideally I'd like to trade two of those in a package for a premium defender.
New FWD Ben Howlett is on the table for an alright MID.
Griffen is worth 1 easily.
Was best in the comp for a while last year.
Quote from: Ricochet on December 08, 2013, 07:23:14 PM
Haha that's not true, all my guys are available but offers have to be decent.
Two average mids for one gun mid doesn't really help me sorry man
Actually on that note, who the flower has all the fwds? No one seems to have any to trade
We have a fair few - N. Riewoldt, Pavlich, Harvey, LeCras, Sylvia and Edwards.
Pretty much any of these guys could be traded for the right price, I could trade two mids for one better one or something like that.
Chris Yarran
Tom Lee
Majak Daw
Lachie Hunter
Richard Douglas
Christian Salem
Toby Greene
Ricky Henderson
Shaun Grigg
David Armitage
Robbie Gray
Shaun Higgins
Shannon Hurn
Tom Nicholls
Allen Christensen
We have forwards, but none of our starting ones are up for trade. Cloke, Clark, Mayne, Zorko and Waite should do us nicely next year 8)
I don't get why people trade their best players for medicre players.
No offence Koop, but why are people silly to trade good for average
Quote from: whatlez on December 08, 2013, 08:47:13 PM
I don't get why people trade their best players for medicre players.
No offence Koop, but why are people silly to trade good for average
what? Just asked if anyone was interested In Howlett for a midfielder in return? Im not asking for a premo for a 24 yr old who only averages 105.....
Quote from: KoopKicka on December 08, 2013, 09:32:42 PM
Quote from: whatlez on December 08, 2013, 08:47:13 PM
I don't get why people trade their best players for medicre players.
No offence Koop, but why are people silly to trade good for average
what? Just asked if anyone was interested In Howlett for a midfielder in return? Im not asking for a premo for a 24 yr old who only averages 105.....
Sorry it was a reference to trading your player for average players. Was the example came to mind, but it's more rare in this comp then some of the other ones...
Quote from: whatlez on December 08, 2013, 10:07:06 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on December 08, 2013, 09:32:42 PM
Quote from: whatlez on December 08, 2013, 08:47:13 PM
I don't get why people trade their best players for medicre players.
No offence Koop, but why are people silly to trade good for average
what? Just asked if anyone was interested In Howlett for a midfielder in return? Im not asking for a premo for a 24 yr old who only averages 105.....
Sorry it was a reference to trading your player for average players. Was the example came to mind, but it's more rare in this comp then some of the other ones...
The worst trade i believe was when Koop traded Trent Cotchin for Harry
O'Brien Lumumba, Jarred Polec and Tom Curren.
Quote from: Noz on December 08, 2013, 10:49:44 PM
Quote from: whatlez on December 08, 2013, 10:07:06 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on December 08, 2013, 09:32:42 PM
Quote from: whatlez on December 08, 2013, 08:47:13 PM
I don't get why people trade their best players for medicre players.
No offence Koop, but why are people silly to trade good for average
what? Just asked if anyone was interested In Howlett for a midfielder in return? Im not asking for a premo for a 24 yr old who only averages 105.....
Sorry it was a reference to trading your player for average players. Was the example came to mind, but it's more rare in this comp then some of the other ones...
The worst trade i believe was when Koop traded Trent Cotchin for Harry O'Brien Lumumba, Jarred Polec and Tom Curren.
l disagree, it was a good trade for both teams .......even more so for Koops now that he has Curran and Heritier has dpp.
But l think people need to compare Koops team from last year to how it is now .........He's done a fantastic job of transforming his team through astute trading
Quote from: Noz on December 08, 2013, 10:49:44 PM
Quote from: whatlez on December 08, 2013, 10:07:06 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on December 08, 2013, 09:32:42 PM
Quote from: whatlez on December 08, 2013, 08:47:13 PM
I don't get why people trade their best players for medicre players.
No offence Koop, but why are people silly to trade good for average
what? Just asked if anyone was interested In Howlett for a midfielder in return? Im not asking for a premo for a 24 yr old who only averages 105.....
Sorry it was a reference to trading your player for average players. Was the example came to mind, but it's more rare in this comp then some of the other ones...
The worst trade i believe was when Koop traded Trent Cotchin for Harry O'Brien Lumumba, Jarred Polec and Tom Curren.
So its appaling when I trade a 130 MID for a 115-120 DEF, a young gun, and a former number 5 pick that has changed clubs....
Learn something new everyday I suppose.
A team with 15 good players and a 16th player that averages 20
Trading 1 of their 15 for two solid just below best 14 average players is a great move
You'd be stupid to not make trades like that lez
all that banter and beef!
#cantgetbooed 8) :P
you feel free, hey! ;D
Cotchin had a poor year this year and still averaged 130 he could really push for 150-150 next year plus he will be your team captain. So he is pretty much worth between 260 - 300
Polec can't stay on the field to save his life, Curren has played 7 games for the Saints in 2 years. So both of them are unproven youngsters so far.
Quote from: Noz on December 09, 2013, 09:25:58 AM
Cotchin had a poor year this year and still averaged 130 he could really push for 150-150 next year plus he will be your team captain. So he is pretty much worth between 260 - 300
Polec can't stay on the field to save his life, Curren has played 7 games for the Saints in 2 years. So both of them are unproven youngsters so far.
And we lose a top 10 ranked defender in Harry. Polec is now back home and settled. Curren is a gun. Winner of Sandy B&F in 2012. Just needed an opportunity which he got last year. He finished the year with 115, 120 and 132.
Yes we got a captain but wow we gave up a lot for it.
You would of gotten a lot more for Cotch then a good defender and 2 players who are not even in the clubs best 22.
Quote from: Noz on December 09, 2013, 02:42:24 PM
You would of gotten a lot more for Cotch then a good defender and 2 players who are not even in the clubs best 22.
If Curren isnt best 22 well then.....
Quote from: KoopKicka on December 09, 2013, 02:45:41 PM
Quote from: Noz on December 09, 2013, 02:42:24 PM
You would of gotten a lot more for Cotch then a good defender and 2 players who are not even in the clubs best 22.
If Curren isnt best 22 well then.....
Hayes, Montanga, Steven, Armitage, Jones, Ray, Savage are all ahead of him then he is fighting for a spot with Newnes, Ross and Billings.
Quote from: Noz on December 09, 2013, 02:49:22 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on December 09, 2013, 02:45:41 PM
Quote from: Noz on December 09, 2013, 02:42:24 PM
You would of gotten a lot more for Cotch then a good defender and 2 players who are not even in the clubs best 22.
If Curren isnt best 22 well then.....
Hayes, Montanga, Steven, Armitage, Jones, Ray, Savage are all ahead of him then he is fighting for a spot with Newnes, Ross and Billings.
Curren is very best 22.
We didnt want to pay that much. Koops turned rook 5 into rook 3 and we nearly declined. The deal took nearly 10 days of negotiating. If Polec averages 80+ and Curren 100+ like Nost and I expect then we have paid way too much.
Time will tell.
Tommy Curren is in our best 22.
Quote from: brad on December 09, 2013, 02:58:33 PM
Tommy Curren is in our best 22.
I think Noz' point is, Tom Curren may not be in the Saints best 22 in which case he won't play for the Eskimos.
The kid, and he is still a kid, only played a couple of games at the end of last season. Yes he impressed but to me that seemed more an audition for him to determine whether he stayed on their list the following season not a definite "if you play well you've got a starting spot".
With a new coach and possibly new direction who's to say Curren won't be on the outer again.
The trade was a massive win to the Crabs whatever way you look at it. Though I can see the Eskimos perspective that the trade improves their team.
We've been through all this before. Koop could have probably gotten a better deal for Cotchin from someone. However this deal was not uneven enough to throw out, and you may find that Koop's team does benefit from it in the end. Football is a funny game and you never know what is going to happen next year or the year after that.
So let's wait and see how it all turns out before everyone bashes the trade.
Quote from: BB67th on December 09, 2013, 03:23:10 PM
We've been through all this before. Koop could have probably gotten a better deal for Cotchin from someone. However this deal was not uneven enough to throw out, and you may find that Koop's team does benefit from it in the end. Football is a funny game and you never know what is going to happen next year or the year after that.
So let's wait and see how it all turns out before everyone bashes the trade.
Yep, that trade wasn't too bad, definitely not as bad as the Masten, Blair for Harper and Motlop trade :P
Quote from: JROO8 on December 09, 2013, 03:28:47 PM
Quote from: BB67th on December 09, 2013, 03:23:10 PM
We've been through all this before. Koop could have probably gotten a better deal for Cotchin from someone. However this deal was not uneven enough to throw out, and you may find that Koop's team does benefit from it in the end. Football is a funny game and you never know what is going to happen next year or the year after that.
So let's wait and see how it all turns out before everyone bashes the trade.
Yep, that trade wasn't too bad, definitely not as bad as the Masten, Blair for Harper and Motlop trade :P
Or Dan Nicholson for Chris Mayne. I still think I got just about the best trade of all there.
Quote from: BB67th on December 09, 2013, 03:55:42 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on December 09, 2013, 03:28:47 PM
Quote from: BB67th on December 09, 2013, 03:23:10 PM
We've been through all this before. Koop could have probably gotten a better deal for Cotchin from someone. However this deal was not uneven enough to throw out, and you may find that Koop's team does benefit from it in the end. Football is a funny game and you never know what is going to happen next year or the year after that.
So let's wait and see how it all turns out before everyone bashes the trade.
Yep, that trade wasn't too bad, definitely not as bad as the Masten, Blair for Harper and Motlop trade :P
Or Dan Nicholson for Chris Mayne. I still think I got just about the best trade of all there.
Yeah that was an awesome trade for you, Mayne is one of the top forwards.
Quote from: JROO8 on December 09, 2013, 03:28:47 PM
Quote from: BB67th on December 09, 2013, 03:23:10 PM
We've been through all this before. Koop could have probably gotten a better deal for Cotchin from someone. However this deal was not uneven enough to throw out, and you may find that Koop's team does benefit from it in the end. Football is a funny game and you never know what is going to happen next year or the year after that.
So let's wait and see how it all turns out before everyone bashes the trade.
Yep, that trade wasn't too bad, definitely not as bad as the Masten, Blair for Harper and Motlop trade :P
motlop is way better than blair - told you all he would be.
now we just need harper to kick on and the trade is not as bad as you all made out ::)
they did sign harper until the end of 2015and he was looking good after playing 23 games in 2012 time will tell....
Quote from: Colliwobblers on December 09, 2013, 04:04:34 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on December 09, 2013, 03:28:47 PM
Quote from: BB67th on December 09, 2013, 03:23:10 PM
We've been through all this before. Koop could have probably gotten a better deal for Cotchin from someone. However this deal was not uneven enough to throw out, and you may find that Koop's team does benefit from it in the end. Football is a funny game and you never know what is going to happen next year or the year after that.
So let's wait and see how it all turns out before everyone bashes the trade.
Yep, that trade wasn't too bad, definitely not as bad as the Masten, Blair for Harper and Motlop trade :P
motlop is way better than blair - told you all he would be.
now we just need harper to kick on and the trade is not as bad as you all made out ::)
they did sign harper until the end of 2015and he was looking good after playing 23 games in 2012 time will tell....
very happy for both Motlop and Harper to be with the Crabs now 8)
This squad here would be pretty good ;)
Quote
Michael Hibberd, Brian Lake, Nathan Bock , Liam Picken, Cam Pedersen, Michael Firrito,
Scott Pendlebury, Matthew Priddis, Hamish Hartlett, Daniel Hannebery, Chris Masten , Ben Howlett Tom Curren, David Ellard, Andrew Boston Anthony Morabito
Patrick Ryder
Chad Wingard, Lachlan Hendersen, Jarryd Blair, Luke Dalhaus, Ben Howlett, Cyril Rioli, Ben Howlett, Tom Boyd, Dayle Garlett, Troy Menzel
Who has the chad?
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 09, 2013, 04:40:59 PM
This squad here would be pretty good ;)
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Michael Hibberd, Brian Lake, Nathan Bock , Liam Picken, Cam Pedersen, Michael Firrito,
Scott Pendlebury, Matthew Priddis, Hamish Hartlett, Daniel Hannebery, Chris Masten , Ben Howlett Tom Curren, David Ellard, Andrew Boston Anthony Morabito
Patrick Ryder
Chad Wingard, Lachlan Hendersen, Jarryd Blair, Luke Dalhaus, Ben Howlett, Cyril Rioli, Ben Howlett, Tom Boyd, Dayle Garlett, Troy Menzel
a) you literally went to the trouble of doing that just to try and prove a point? :o
b) Howlett's good, but he aint 3 players.
Been thinking about doing it for awhile as i had a hunch it would be a fairly good team, just to show that you should have faith in your drafting skills because as you can see they were quite good ;)
Really disappointed with the treatment koops gets here. A kid who does so much for a lot of people really deserves better than this.
Very poor form.
It's all good Rids, everyone here does like koop.
i think that is why they try to point out things they may "feel" he is doing wrong - becasue he is a good guy and they care.
lots of people cop pretty close to genuine abuse here and while it is still friendly enough and banter it is quite harsh at times.
i rarely if ever see koop copping any such harsh treatment.
If koop is upset over anything and for that matter if anyone is ever upset by anything that happens here they can contact BB or I and it WILL be addressed.
but as I say i have no doubt everyone here loves koop, and only have his best interests at heart.
and koop has a pretty thick skin, he is not the only one to get pasted over trades.
I myself have copped some flack over gettig fleeced by the evil dreaded JROO8 ;D
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 09, 2013, 04:52:34 PM
Been thinking about doing it for awhile as i had a hunch it would be a fairly good team, just to show that you should have faith in your drafting skills because as you can see they were quite good ;)
Cheers JB for the affirmation, appreciate it, we all need to learn somehow though. :)
Quote from: Colliwobblers on December 09, 2013, 05:01:59 PM
It's all good Rids, everyone here does like koop.
i think that is why they try to point out things they may "feel" he is doing wrong - becasue he is a good guy and they care.
lots of people cop pretty close to genuine abuse here and while it is still friendly enough and banter it is quite harsh at times.
i rarely if ever see koop copping any such harsh treatment.
If koop is upset over anything and for that matter if anyone is ever upset by anything that happens here they can contact BB or I and it WILL be addressed.
but as I say i have no doubt everyone here loves koop, and only have his best interests at heart.
and koop has a pretty thick skin, he is not the only one to get pasted over trades.
I myself have copped some flack over gettig fleeced by the evil dreaded JROO8 ;D
Thanks Colli, but as you said, Im un-wavered by this, doesnt bother me, not sure why so much fuss is being made, while I know most have my best interests at heart there are probably 1 or 2 who need to be shoved off a cliff. ;D
Quote from: RidleyU on December 09, 2013, 04:56:14 PM
Really disappointed with the treatment koops gets here. A kid who does so much for a lot of people really deserves better than this.
Very poor form.
No one here hates Koop, He knows its just banter. This is what makes Asian the best comp, If you are after a competition without any banter go join club penguin ;)
There is so much beef in this competition that even vegans are getting angry.
Quote from: BB67th on December 09, 2013, 03:55:42 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on December 09, 2013, 03:28:47 PM
Quote from: BB67th on December 09, 2013, 03:23:10 PM
We've been through all this before. Koop could have probably gotten a better deal for Cotchin from someone. However this deal was not uneven enough to throw out, and you may find that Koop's team does benefit from it in the end. Football is a funny game and you never know what is going to happen next year or the year after that.
So let's wait and see how it all turns out before everyone bashes the trade.
Yep, that trade wasn't too bad, definitely not as bad as the Masten, Blair for Harper and Motlop trade :P
Or Dan Nicholson for Chris Mayne. I still think I got just about the best trade of all there.
:( Mayne was pretty ordinary in 2012 so he just improved heaps. Who says he goes back to his previous form and Nicholson can turn good and I did the trade cause Elephants recommended it for me lol.
KoopKicka more like SpudLicker ;)
Quote from: Nails on December 09, 2013, 10:49:34 PM
KoopKicka more like SpudLicker ;)
I actually do enjoy the odd baked potato once in a while. :)
Quote from: KoopKicka on December 09, 2013, 10:54:36 PM
Quote from: Nails on December 09, 2013, 10:49:34 PM
KoopKicka more like SpudLicker ;)
I actually do enjoy the odd baked potato once in a while. :)
mmmmmm potatoes :)
I just want to say that I made the statement as a reference of trading your best players out for lesser players. It wasn't meant to come out at Koop, it was just the example I could of think of at the time. Sorry to Koop and others.
It wasn't meant to raise the trade and for people to attack him and his team. I'll try and use another example next time :)
Yeah ill apologise as well if i attacked koop with any of my comments.
Ill get this back on track
Matthew Stokes or Josh Thomas for a defender or 2
Don't need mids now with Lewis becoming mid only :(
Quote from: Noz on December 09, 2013, 11:44:25 PM
Ill get this back on track
Matthew Stokes or Josh Thomas for a defender or 2
what defender i have plenty and am quite fond of thomas
Looking to upgrade Wellingham for a good mid or fwd. Can package with any of the below
DEF Tayte Pears, Dylan Grimes, Jackson Trengrove, James Frawley, Kamdyn McIntosh, Jack Frost, Jordan Lockyer, Mitchell W. Brown[GEE]
MID Claye Beams, Koby Stevens, Elliot Kavanagh, Nick Graham, Will Hams, Dylan Buckley, Jackson Sheringham, Nick O'Brien, Dylan Main
RUC Dawson Simpson, Angus Graham
FWD Jamie Cripps, Dean TowersM/F, Dylan Addison, Darren Minchington, Tom CurranD/F, Sam Lloyd
Hmm I thought our trading was well and truly done but after a closer review of the dpp leak I have decided that we could possibly still do one more deal and on-trade Dean Terlich in exchange for a good, young midfielder or a good young ruck.
And, before you say anything JROO - when I declined your deal it was because I hadn't looked at the dpp changes closely.
With Vlastuin keeping dpp and Sutcliffe getting def only plus Rioli being forward only and a few other players losing mid we are very short there so I'm open to a possibly trade.
Also Tom Campbell went from a Ruck to Forward only despite being used in the ruck and as a forward in all the games he played. WTF! So I could possibly pick up another ruck there. We could go a season without a backup to Kreuzer as we're not really going to be challenging but I'd want to get one in the longer term anyway.
Anyway, if you're interested send me your best offer and I'll get back to you.
Looking for a FAIR trade in getting a forward. If I was going to trade someone... I would trade Redden... :'(
Still listening to offers for a package of Zmith and Gorringe. :)
Quote from: Ricochet on December 10, 2013, 12:45:19 AM
Looking to upgrade Wellingham for a good mid or fwd. Can package with any of the below
DEF Tayte Pears, Dylan Grimes, Jackson Trengrove, James Frawley, Kamdyn McIntosh, Jack Frost, Jordan Lockyer, Mitchell W. Brown[GEE]
MID Claye Beams, Koby Stevens, Elliot Kavanagh, Nick Graham, Will Hams, Dylan Buckley, Jackson Sheringham, Nick O'Brien, Dylan Main
RUC Dawson Simpson, Angus Graham
FWD Jamie Cripps, Dean TowersM/F, Dylan Addison, Darren Minchington, Tom CurranD/F, Sam Lloyd
Could also chuck in an upgrade to Enright if anyone is chasing a flag.
Something like Enright + Wellingham for an upgrade on Wellingham and a lesser defender
Can be pushed to chuck in a good kid like Beams (or any of the ones above) if the mid is good enough
I got a showerload of mids. Willing to trade all if the right deal. But Bowk and Scooter are very very unlikely.
Jack Redden, Michael Barlow, Scott Selwood, Travis Boak, Dylan Shiel, Jordan Lewis[/size]
Lachie Whitfield, Oliver Wines, Liam Shiels, Matt White, Thomas Sheridan, Sam Dunell, Bradley McKenzie, Anthony Miles, Sam Schulz, Taylor Hine, Kyle Cheney
Would like a starting forward or back.
Quote from: Noz on December 09, 2013, 11:44:25 PM
Ill get this back on track
Matthew Stokes or Josh Thomas for a defender or 2
Not much happening in Asia at the moment.
Still looking to trade one of Andrew Walker or Mark LeCras for a premo midfielder, or both for an out and out gun.
only got kids to trade , not what the Bears are looking for yet methinks, tho they may be in a year or two.
and yes Asia is very quiet, eerily so....
I'm still after a gun defender as well.
Swan, Goddard, the starting forwards, Minson and Lobbe are pretty much off limits, but anyone else can be traded.
If you need mods, I have players like NDS, Foley, McLean, Vince and MacMillan available.
Is Minson tradeable?
Quote from: Jayman on December 17, 2013, 09:02:18 AM
Is Minson tradeable?
No he's not actually, I'll add him to that list.
Any good players tradeable?
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 17, 2013, 09:14:27 AM
Any good players tradeable?
There are a few good players there in the mids that are available and the defenders can be upgraded.
I just don't want to get rid of the high scoring members of my starting XV if I can avoid it because then I would be losing my high scoring power. Especially in the forward line, which is what made me so successful last season.
I would say NDS has the potential to be good again.
Quote from: BB67th on December 17, 2013, 08:51:10 AM
I'm still after a gun defender as well.
Swan, Goddard, the starting forwards, Minson and Lobbe are pretty much off limits, but anyone else can be traded.
If you need mods, I have players like NDS, Foley, McLean, Vince and MacMillan available.
Terlich is available if you're interested...
Though there's been some interest in him already.
Is there any teams rebuilding outside mepth? I got shower load of talent
Quote from: whatlez on December 17, 2013, 02:34:51 PM
Is there any teams rebuilding outside mepth? I got shower load of talent
What a shame you can't be serious enough ever to make a trade
OK I think I might need a defender, I have enough clearly to field a full line week in week out, but would like to pick one up.
Looking for a starter, and the type of player who is set as a defender and has scope to be or is a bext 15 type player.
I have ample midfield options to trade. See list below and only realistic offers please however all will be considered.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on September 07, 2012, 08:27:30 PM
THE LIST
SENIOR LIST
1. Dayne Beams
2. Matthew Wright
3. Jack Newnes
4. Matthew Leuenberger
5. Chris Judd
6. Courtenay Dempsey
7. Troy Chaplin
8. Christian Howard
9. Sam Blease
10. Danny Stanley
11. Ricky Pettard
12. David Myers
13. Jeremy Howe
14. Ben Reid
15. Dom Tyson
16. Jake Melksham
17. Robert Warnock
18. Robin Nahas
19. Billie Smedts
20. Mitch Wallis
21. Mark Hutchings
22. Nick Haynes
23. Brandon Matera
24. Troy Menzel
25. Kane Lucas
26. Nick Suban
27. Patrick Karnezis
28. Taylor Garner
29. Jonathan O'Rourke
30. Mark Whiley
31. Matt Jones
32. Tony Armstrong
33. Matt McDonough
34. Lewis Johnston
35. Nicholas Robertson (1)
36. Joshua Kelly (3)
37. Cameron McCarthy (2)
38. Zak Jones (2)
39. Michael Apeness (2)
40.
ROOKIE LIST
1. Thomas Jonas
2. Josh Bruce
3. Mark Blicavs
4. Lloyd Perris
5. Louis Herbert
6. Isaac Conway
PLAYERS BY POSITION
Defenders
Ben Reid (fwd)
Courtenay Dempsey
Ricky Pettard
Troy Chaplin
Tony Armstrong
Nick Haynes
Christian Howard
Zak Jones
Thomas Jonas*
Josh Bruce*
Midfielders
Dayne Beams
Jake Melksham
Mitch Wallis
Danny Stanley
David Myers
Mark Hutchings
Dom Tyson
Jack Newnes
Chris Judd
Kane Lucas
Nick Suban
Matt Jones
Johnathon O'Rourke
Mark Whiley
Nicholas Robertson
Joshua Kelly
Lloyd Perris*
Isaac Conway*
Ruckmen
Matthew Leuenberger
Robert Warnock
Michael Apeness
Mark Blicavs*
Forwards
Jeremy Howe
Brandon Matera
Lewis Johnston
Matthew Wright
Patrick Karnezis
Matt McDonough
Troy Menzel
Billie Smedts
Robin Nahas
Sam Blease
Taylor Garner
Cameron McCarthy
Loius Herbert
PLAYERS BY TEAM
Adelaide- 2
Brisbane- 3
Carlton- 4
Collingwood- 4
Essendon- 3
Fremantle- 2
Geelong- 2
Hawthorn- 0
Gold Coast- 3
Greater Western Sydney- 5
North Melbourne- 2
Melbourne- 4
Port Adelaide- 1
Richmond- 3
St Kilda- 2
Sydney- 2
West Coast- 1
Western Bulldogs- 2
I have plenty of defenders. Kade Simpson, Andrew Mackie, Brett Goodes, SD Thompson and then younger guys such as Suckling, Golby, Alex Johnson, Sam Darley, Ryan Schoenmakers.
Obviously hold them all to different values, but one could be moved :)
Quote from: Jayman on December 17, 2013, 09:20:23 PM
I have plenty of defenders. Kade Simpson, Andrew Mackie, Brett Goodes, SD Thompson and then younger guys such as Suckling, Golby, Alex Johnson, Sam Darley, Ryan Schoenmakers.
Obviously hold them all to different values, but one could be moved :)
Younger blokes are injured :P
Finally there's a trade in Asians :o
UAE Tigers (JROO8) gives Allen Christensen, Stephen Hill, Campbell Heath
Vietnam Vipers (SydneyRox) gives Courtney Dempsey, Troy Menzel, Matt McDonough
Basically I have a few mids and I need a defender with Seedsman and Hendo both getting injured. I also need forwards, with a few of my current forwards a chance to lose Fwd status next year.
SydneyRox to confirm :)
Wow, interesting trade. Vipers don't exactly have the strongest defense. :-X
Quote from: JROO8 on February 19, 2014, 12:22:14 AM
Finally there's a trade in Asians :o
UAE Tigers (JROO8) gives Allen Christensen, Stephen Hill, Campbell Heath
Vietnam Vipers (SydneyRox) gives Courtney Dempsey, Troy Menzel, Matt McDonough
Basically I have a few mids and I need a defender with Seedsman and Hendo both getting injured. I also need forwards, with a few of my current forwards a chance to lose Fwd status next year.
SydneyRox to confirm :)
Interesting one. Slight win to the Vipers here imo though it depends how the two youngsters they are giving up develop.
Quote from: JROO8 on February 19, 2014, 12:22:14 AM
Finally there's a trade in Asians :o
UAE Tigers (JROO8) gives Allen Christensen, Stephen Hill, Campbell Heath
Vietnam Vipers (SydneyRox) gives Courtney Dempsey, Troy Menzel, Matt McDonough
Basically I have a few mids and I need a defender with Seedsman and Hendo both getting injured. I also need forwards, with a few of my current forwards a chance to lose Fwd status next year.
SydneyRox to confirm :)
confirm. while we think menzel is a big loss, christensen is a massive gain (in 3 mths) :(
we have dempsey covered in defence and believe heath will continue his improvement
Quote from: SydneyRox on February 19, 2014, 02:11:30 AM
Quote from: JROO8 on February 19, 2014, 12:22:14 AM
Finally there's a trade in Asians :o
UAE Tigers (JROO8) gives Allen Christensen (4), Stephen Hill (4), Campbell Heath (2)
Vietnam Vipers (SydneyRox) gives Courtney Dempsey (6), Troy Menzel (2), Matt McDonough (1)
Basically I have a few mids and I need a defender with Seedsman and Hendo both getting injured. I also need forwards, with a few of my current forwards a chance to lose Fwd status next year.
SydneyRox to confirm :)
confirm. while we think menzel is a big loss, christensen is a massive gain (in 3 mths) :(
we have dempsey covered in defence and believe heath will continue his improvement
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