I want this to be the place for you to go to if you have any issues of the rules, questions on some of the rules or how the comp works. Or if you think any rules need changing.
The 2 ones im looking at:
1. I was going to only give 5 nat and 5 rookie picks and if you needed more than you nwould have to trade them or you will have less players. Some have said that you should keep picking in the rookie till your team is up to the 40 cap.
2. I had it so if a team scored 1179 and another 1182 than it would be called a draw and both teams would score a 118. The alternate solution is if this happens again than the team with the highest raw score wins. So i would give a bonus point to the winning team so they would win 119 to 118 in this scenario.
if you want to talk about these rules or any over ones post below
Yeah fair enough for 1. Not that they'll get anyone decent.
2. yes imo, the higher raw score should win.
but I really really want to push for 3- that draws on the ladder, final positions are determined by overall points scored, not %.
Quote from: Ziplock on September 07, 2012, 05:44:15 PM
Yeah fair enough for 1. Not that they'll get anyone decent.
2. yes imo, the higher raw score should win.
but I really really want to push for 3- that draws on the ladder, final positions are determined by overall points scored, not %.
Ok will add that up for discussion. So you want it done on points first than points score right?
yeah, points for head to head matches, then in the eventuality we get tied ladder positions, overall points.
if hypothetically, two teams finished 8/9th, and had exactly the same points scored, use their head to head game/s to determine the winner.
If that also remains tied, then maybe look at their team performances over the bye rounds when we didnt go solo?
yeh with #1 can't see that being a problem with anyone
i like #2 and #3, that in a draw the highest score should win and with a draw on points the highest total points should be higher on the ladder
Quote from: Ricochet on September 07, 2012, 06:24:24 PM
yeh with #1 can't see that being a problem with anyone
i like #2 and #3, that in a draw the highest score should win and with a draw on points the highest total points should be higher on the ladder
I would only say the higher total points be used in finals, draws are a part of the game after all :P
Quote from: Ziplock on September 07, 2012, 06:29:14 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 07, 2012, 06:24:24 PM
yeh with #1 can't see that being a problem with anyone
i like #2 and #3, that in a draw the highest score should win and with a draw on points the highest total points should be higher on the ladder
I would only say the higher total points be used in finals, draws are a part of the game after all :P
that sounds like a good compromise, i like the fact we had a few draws. So a draw in the home and away but if a torp sitatuion occurs than next year that counts as a win.
Just a question with 1, you both seemed to be for it but im not sure if you mean the unlimited picks or the 10 given and you need to trade for more.
I like both changes aswell.
#1 get extra last round picks in rookie draft till your team list hits 40 if you need them.
#2 Draws during home & away season, but during finals highest score wins or do what zip said if that is a draw and look back at points on ladder etc.
Quote from: Holzman on September 07, 2012, 06:33:12 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on September 07, 2012, 06:29:14 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 07, 2012, 06:24:24 PM
yeh with #1 can't see that being a problem with anyone
i like #2 and #3, that in a draw the highest score should win and with a draw on points the highest total points should be higher on the ladder
I would only say the higher total points be used in finals, draws are a part of the game after all :P
that sounds like a good compromise, i like the fact we had a few draws. So a draw in the home and away but if a torp sitatuion occurs than next year that counts as a win.
Just a question with 1, you both seemed to be for it but im not sure if you mean the unlimited picks or the 10 given and you need to trade for more.
unlimited to fill your list up
So filling up your list, how would that work? Holz gets pick 71 and go in order of ladder positions?
Yeah go by ladder postion and you cant trade these picks. So the 5 rounds go and than you just keep picking in the ladder order till you hit your cap. Obviously people will have hit it before than so they just get their turn skipped.
Ok that's good no skipping. What did you edit??
I have a question, if lets say I pass on my national pick 33, do I get pick 33, or pick 34 in the rookie?
Quote from: whatlez on September 07, 2012, 07:26:42 PM
Ok that's good no skipping. What did you edit??
I went to quote but hit modify.
What i mean by skipping is when it comes to round 6 i will have the first pick but im not using it becasue i have hit the 40 cap, my pick is skipped and so on.
Quote from: Ziplock on September 07, 2012, 07:36:45 PM
I have a question, if lets say I pass on my national pick 33, do I get pick 33, or pick 34 in the rookie?
^ question.
Quote from: Ziplock on September 07, 2012, 08:22:39 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on September 07, 2012, 07:36:45 PM
I have a question, if lets say I pass on my national pick 33, do I get pick 33, or pick 34 in the rookie?
^ question.
you get the pick after theirs so 34.
No. You should get pick a bonus pick in the rookie draft and it should be at the end of the rookie draft, so pick 71.
I cannot get pushed back because they skip in NAT.
Also I think you cannot delist players on your list who stay a part of a club. IMO you should only be able to replace retred players and delisted players or to make up the numbers.
So you cannot delist AFL listed players. As they have not been delisted themselves.
both of those are idiotic suggestions. I'm pretty sure the afl runs it straight after the same pick, and we're running this as afl clubs... so if it's your prerogative if you want to delist or not.
anyway, that's how we had the rookie draft last season.
Well I am about 2-3 players down I think Plus I will have 3 retired at least and 4 delisting. So I get about 9 additional picks? That's my situation.
I do not like that if you skip in nat then you can get I front of my traded in rookie picks...
Why are you trading rookie picks? You cant in the AFL??
Quote from: whatlez on September 07, 2012, 10:11:11 PM
Well I am about 2-3 players down I think Plus I will have 3 retired at least and 4 delisting. So I get about 9 additional picks? That's my situation.
I do not like that if you skip in nat then you can get I front of my traded in rookie picks...
Its the rule of the afl. We also did it in the euro and worlds last year. I'm sure people won't skip the top 20 pickss
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 07, 2012, 10:13:10 PM
Why are you trading rookie picks? You cant in the AFL??
rookie picks have significantly more value in this competition than in the afl.
And jb we have 10+ less players on our lists.
To add to discussion, holz team thread is in the DT section haha
Also the induction of spunk thread is there too...
Why do people think skipped picks in the NAT work the same way in the AFL ? that is totally incorrect. The skipped picks in the NAT form ALL the picks in the PSD in the AFL, which is then followed by the draft.
Remember me last year cracking the showers because I skipped a NAT pick because I wanted a PSD pick but then ended up getting a late Rookie pick ? :P
Yeah so what's the resolution. I want to know before I do anymore trade discussions.
Quote from: whatlez on September 09, 2012, 12:08:20 PM
Yeah so what's the resolution. I want to know before I do anymore trade discussions.
The skipping Nat pick thing is staying.
I'm going with the unlimited picks.
So what does that mean. If I skip pick 6 in Nat. I will get a additional rookie pick at 6?
Quote from: whatlez on September 09, 2012, 01:13:59 PM
So what does that mean. If I skip pick 6 in Nat. I will get a additional rookie pick at 6?
Technically Pick 7 in the rookie draft. People would be silly skipping early picks like that because you cant pick again after you have skipped which means you would draft NO Nat players and ALL Rookie players.
Oh really. Thanks for clearing that up Scrads :)
So the discussion of list changes. The initial rule was meant to be 15 list changes (Rookie/Draft picks included), but because of myself and mainly Pickers (lol :P), the rule had to be scraped. So here Pickers is at a halt.
Pickers has used up 14 list changes. So he can have one more then he can only trade the same players?
I think I have used 10-11.
Also apparently there is no trading once the NAT Draft has approached. Was everyone aware that trading in Euros closes the day before the NAT draft? I wasn't actually aware... :-X. And if I did know/realise I probably would of not done some of the trades I made (especially the latest one)
Does this mean if you skipped Nat pick 2 and also had Nat picks 10, 20, and 30 (for example), you'd get extra rookie picks at 3, 11, 21, and 31...?
Quote from: LaHug on September 24, 2012, 10:03:25 PM
Does this mean if you skipped Nat pick 2 and also had Nat picks 10, 20, and 30 (for example), you'd get extra rookie picks at 3, 11, 21, and 31...?
You must skip all your Nat picks if you skip pick 2 for example
Quote from: Holzman on September 24, 2012, 10:10:38 PM
Quote from: LaHug on September 24, 2012, 10:03:25 PM
Does this mean if you skipped Nat pick 2 and also had Nat picks 10, 20, and 30 (for example), you'd get extra rookie picks at 3, 11, 21, and 31...?
You must skip all your Nat picks if you skip pick 2 for example
Yeah, but because that means you skipped them all, do you get replacements for all of them? Or do you just get replacements for the first one you skipped?
Quote from: LaHug on September 24, 2012, 10:15:19 PM
Quote from: Holzman on September 24, 2012, 10:10:38 PM
Quote from: LaHug on September 24, 2012, 10:03:25 PM
Does this mean if you skipped Nat pick 2 and also had Nat picks 10, 20, and 30 (for example), you'd get extra rookie picks at 3, 11, 21, and 31...?
You must skip all your Nat picks if you skip pick 2 for example
Yeah, but because that means you skipped them all, do you get replacements for all of them? Or do you just get replacements for the first one you skipped?
All of them
Ok then, next question. If someone skips pick 2 in nat so gets pick 3 in rookie, does the person that originally had pick 3 move down to pick 4? And, given that, what if someone else gives up pick 3 in the nat draft, earning them pick 4 in the rookie. Do they or the original pick 3 rookie owner move down to 5?
It's problems like this that make me feel like it's not the right system.
Quote from: LaHug on September 24, 2012, 10:34:05 PM
Ok then, next question. If someone skips pick 2 in nat so gets pick 3 in rookie, does the person that originally had pick 3 move down to pick 4? And, given that, what if someone else gives up pick 3 in the nat draft, earning them pick 4 in the rookie. Do they or the original pick 3 rookie owner move down to 5?
It's problems like this that make me feel like it's not the right system.
Yep.
It's based on the premise that national picks > rookie picks.
Quote from: LaHug on September 24, 2012, 10:34:05 PM
Ok then, next question. If someone skips pick 2 in nat so gets pick 3 in rookie, does the person that originally had pick 3 move down to pick 4? And, given that, what if someone else gives up pick 3 in the nat draft, earning them pick 4 in the rookie. Do they or the original pick 3 rookie owner move down to 5?
It's problems like this that make me feel like it's not the right system.
The rookie pick 4 person moves down to rookie 5. If you skip a top 20 not pick , you will regret it. The rookie isn't that good.
I really like the rule. Adds an element of strategy to the drafting which doesn't exist in any of the other comps.
Quote from: Holzman on September 24, 2012, 10:49:27 PM
Quote from: LaHug on September 24, 2012, 10:34:05 PM
Ok then, next question. If someone skips pick 2 in nat so gets pick 3 in rookie, does the person that originally had pick 3 move down to pick 4? And, given that, what if someone else gives up pick 3 in the nat draft, earning them pick 4 in the rookie. Do they or the original pick 3 rookie owner move down to 5?
It's problems like this that make me feel like it's not the right system.
The rookie pick 4 person moves down to rookie 5. If you skip a top 20 not pick , you will regret it. The rookie isn't that good.
I was just using low numbers as examples because it's easier. So, because I have picks 62, 63, and 64 in the nat draft, I would get 3 consecutive rookie picks if I chose to skip them? Drafting is definitely my weakness... So hopeless with it.
Quote from: LaHug on September 24, 2012, 10:57:38 PM
Quote from: Holzman on September 24, 2012, 10:49:27 PM
Quote from: LaHug on September 24, 2012, 10:34:05 PM
Ok then, next question. If someone skips pick 2 in nat so gets pick 3 in rookie, does the person that originally had pick 3 move down to pick 4? And, given that, what if someone else gives up pick 3 in the nat draft, earning them pick 4 in the rookie. Do they or the original pick 3 rookie owner move down to 5?
It's problems like this that make me feel like it's not the right system.
The rookie pick 4 person moves down to rookie 5. If you skip a top 20 not pick , you will regret it. The rookie isn't that good.
I was just using low numbers as examples because it's easier. So, because I have picks 62, 63, and 64 in the nat draft, I would get 3 consecutive rookie picks if I chose to skip them? Drafting is definitely my weakness... So hopeless with it.
No it would go 62 rookie pick than you. Than 63 rookie pick than you etc..
Quote from: Holzman on September 24, 2012, 11:09:12 PM
Quote from: LaHug on September 24, 2012, 10:57:38 PM
Quote from: Holzman on September 24, 2012, 10:49:27 PM
Quote from: LaHug on September 24, 2012, 10:34:05 PM
Ok then, next question. If someone skips pick 2 in nat so gets pick 3 in rookie, does the person that originally had pick 3 move down to pick 4? And, given that, what if someone else gives up pick 3 in the nat draft, earning them pick 4 in the rookie. Do they or the original pick 3 rookie owner move down to 5?
It's problems like this that make me feel like it's not the right system.
The rookie pick 4 person moves down to rookie 5. If you skip a top 20 not pick , you will regret it. The rookie isn't that good.
I was just using low numbers as examples because it's easier. So, because I have picks 62, 63, and 64 in the nat draft, I would get 3 consecutive rookie picks if I chose to skip them? Drafting is definitely my weakness... So hopeless with it.
No it would go 62 rookie pick than you. Than 63 rookie pick than you etc..
Oh, ok. Got ya.
quick question
do we need to delist 5 players, or just have 5 list movements (including trades and delistings)?
No. Depends on retirements etc. I have 3 retiring players so that means I have to delist two. Or I can pass twice in the rookie draft.
Quote from: whatlez on October 04, 2012, 05:51:24 PM
No. Depends on retirements etc. I have 3 retiring players so that means I have to delist two. Or I can pass twice in the rookie draft.
wait, so the following
retirements + delistings = 5
or
retirements + delistings + skipped rookie picks= 5
?
Quote from: Ziplock on October 04, 2012, 06:20:20 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 04, 2012, 05:51:24 PM
No. Depends on retirements etc. I have 3 retiring players so that means I have to delist two. Or I can pass twice in the rookie draft.
wait, so the following
retirements + delistings = 5
or
retirements + delistings + skipped rookie picks= 5
?
This year your list gains by 5. Although you get 10 list increases. (5 auto from Nat and Rookie).
So therefore, if you do not trade or have no retiring players then you will have to delist 5 players. I am not 100% aware on when these delisting will be by, but I assume before the Rookie Draft. Because you can delist 5 players and then pick them back up through the rookie draft if you really want to.
its pretty simple. You can only have 40 on your list.
So you cant have more than 40 on your list by the time the rookie draft starts. If you have 39 you can only take 1 rookie pick and will have to skip your rest. If you only have 32 you will have 8 rookie picks.
All delistings have to be done before the rookie starts ( so people can take them) you can wait till after the nat though.
There will be a few days gap between the nat and the rookie draft for this. Or you can start delisting now. I will make a thread about it.
ok, sweet.
Quote from: Holzman on October 04, 2012, 06:41:02 PM
its pretty simple. You can only have 40 on your list.
So you cant have more than 40 on your list by the time the rookie draft starts. If you have 39 you can only take 1 rookie pick and will have to skip your rest. If you only have 32 you will have 8 rookie picks.
All delistings have to be done before the rookie starts ( so people can take them) you can wait till after the nat though.
There will be a few days gap between the nat and the rookie draft for this. Or you can start delisting now. I will make a thread about it.
Shouldn't our rookie draft come after the real life PSD/rookie draft ?
it does, we have to delist our players before that though.
Quote from: Ziplock on October 04, 2012, 07:26:47 PM
it does, we have to delist our players before that though.
Yeah but surely if we only have 'a few days' gap between the Nat draft and our Rookie draft, the Rookie draft won't have happened in real life yet and thus, we won't have any set rookies to pick...
Maybe the nat draft is starting after the rookie draft. That's what's happening in worlds...
Quote from: Scrads on October 05, 2012, 01:03:40 AM
Quote from: Ziplock on October 04, 2012, 07:26:47 PM
it does, we have to delist our players before that though.
Yeah but surely if we only have 'a few days' gap between the Nat draft and our Rookie draft, the Rookie draft won't have happened in real life yet and thus, we won't have any set rookies to pick...
holz mightn't know the specific dates for the drafts... there's only 20 days between the rookie and nat draft anyway.
yeah cf, but worlds is slightly differently structured to euros- with the amount of players left over in euros, the rookie draft is happening after the national so that all holes etc. are filled :)
No no zip you misunderstood. I meant perhaps you are starting your national draft once the afl rookie draft has been completed so that you know where everyone has been drafted to and if you need to delist players or not. In worlds the WXV national draft is happening before the WXV rookie draft, but after the AFL rookie draft ;)
But then when you are recruiting nat picks, you will know positions, dpp etc...
Quote from: whatlez on October 05, 2012, 02:00:43 AM
But then when you are recruiting nat picks, you will know positions, dpp etc...
True, we should wait until these are released (Decmeber 1 from memory) before we start drafting I reckon...
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 05, 2012, 01:56:25 AM
No no zip you misunderstood. I meant perhaps you are starting your national draft once the afl rookie draft has been completed so that you know where everyone has been drafted to and if you need to delist players or not. In worlds the WXV national draft is happening before the WXV rookie draft, but after the AFL rookie draft ;)
haha, kk that makes more sense.
nah, I say draft before positions are released... more fun :P
Quote from: Ziplock on October 05, 2012, 02:09:18 AM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 05, 2012, 01:56:25 AM
No no zip you misunderstood. I meant perhaps you are starting your national draft once the afl rookie draft has been completed so that you know where everyone has been drafted to and if you need to delist players or not. In worlds the WXV national draft is happening before the WXV rookie draft, but after the AFL rookie draft ;)
haha, kk that makes more sense.
nah, I say draft before positions are released... more fun :P
This!
I didnt know there was a big gap between the nat and the rookie. I intend on picking before positions are released. Thats alot of the fun of drafting.
I think i will just copy ossie's work with
18th December: Final Draft Order announced.
19th December: WXV National Draft**
Conclusion of Draft: 2nd List Lodgements, including a list of any more retirements/delistings
Once 2nd list lodgements have been given. we have the WXV Preseason/Rookie Draft***
Both drafts need to be finished by 1st February.
Approx 1st February - Final positions named.
8th - 21st February: 2nd Trade Period##
22nd February: Final Lists Announced.
Problem - I am in Melbourne/Tassie from Decemer 20 - Jan 20.
Solution - I have three more than capable assistants
;D
that's a long ass holiday.
Quote from: elephants on October 05, 2012, 11:13:33 PM
Problem - I am in Melbourne/Tassie from Decemer 20 - Jan 20.
Solution - I have three more than capable assistants
;D
and one is a F.A.R.King dickhead haha :P
Quote from: elephants on October 05, 2012, 11:13:33 PM
Problem - I am in Melbourne/Tassie from Decemer 20 - Jan 20.
Solution - I have three more than capable assistants
;D
I just copied what ossie is doing , i havent really looked at the timing of the draws yet and im not as organised. Which i think some people may have picked up on.
If anyone can handle not having the head coach there is the bashers. Your assistants are more active than a few of the coaches.
Quote from: elephants on October 05, 2012, 11:13:33 PM
Problem - I am in Melbourne/Tassie from Decemer 20 - Jan 20.
Solution - I have three handicapable assistants
;D
fixed.
Quote from: Ziplock on October 05, 2012, 11:30:30 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 05, 2012, 11:13:33 PM
Problem - I am in Melbourne/Tassie from Decemer 20 - Jan 20.
Solution - I have three handicapable assistants
;D
fixed.
Handi Capable*?
Quote from: Holzman on October 05, 2012, 03:17:09 AM
I didnt know there was a big gap between the nat and the rookie. I intend on picking before positions are released. Thats alot of the fun of drafting.
I think i will just copy ossie's work with
18th December: Final Draft Order announced.
19th December: WXV National Draft**
Conclusion of Draft: 2nd List Lodgements, including a list of any more retirements/delistings
Once 2nd list lodgements have been given. we have the WXV Preseason/Rookie Draft***
Both drafts need to be finished by 1st February.
Approx 1st February - Final positions named.
8th - 21st February: 2nd Trade Period##
22nd February: Final Lists Announced.
Im AFK from 26th til 4th of jan, but im pree sure my nat picks will be done by then and i only have 1 rook pick :P
I will be away from about Christmas until the end of January with very little time near the computer...
Luckily you have the such an amazing assistant then ;)
Quote from: whatlez on October 05, 2012, 11:32:40 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on October 05, 2012, 11:30:30 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 05, 2012, 11:13:33 PM
Problem - I am in Melbourne/Tassie from Decemer 20 - Jan 20.
Solution - I have three handicapable assistants
;D
fixed.
Handi Capable*?
That's harsh :o I just realised I am one of these assistants in discussion so have decided to take offence to Zip's comment :P
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 07, 2012, 05:10:12 PM
Luckily you have the such an amazing assistant then ;)
The best going around.
Second trade period- before or after our rookie draft? how many player movements?
personally, I'd go before the rookie draft, as it means you can do 2 for 1 trades and can include rookie picks etc. And I'd say around 7-10 list movements... but with a 2nd trade period only lasting like a week or so, to minimise movements.
Quote from: Ziplock on September 07, 2012, 06:29:14 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 07, 2012, 06:24:24 PM
yeh with #1 can't see that being a problem with anyone
i like #2 and #3, that in a draw the highest score should win and with a draw on points the highest total points should be higher on the ladder
I would only say the higher total points be used in finals, draws are a part of the game after all :P
but its really only a draw if the points are actually equal.....if its 1179 to 1182, thats not equal and shouldnt be considered as a draw whether in finals or the season proper (rule should be consistent)
........and as for the bonus point to seperate them, dont do it. Register it as a win for the higher scoring team but leave the rounded points as they are for purposes of consistency, and having the total points at the end of the season as truly representing a teams output ( not an extra bonus point here or there)
Quote from: Ziplock on November 27, 2012, 04:27:16 AM
Second trade period- before or after our rookie draft? how many player movements?
personally, I'd go before the rookie draft, as it means you can do 2 for 1 trades and can include rookie picks etc. And I'd say around 7-10 list movements... but with a 2nd trade period only lasting like a week or so, to minimise movements.
I will put a vote to it. I was going to have a trade period after the drafts with a cap of 4, this will stay.
But i will see if we want another trade period in between the drafts, this will have a small cap too of 4-5.
The plan next year is 10 before the draft 4 in the middle and 4 after.
Another trade period... Why not :)
Quote from: whatlez on November 27, 2012, 11:28:25 AM
Another trade period... Why not :)
If it keeps going at this rate, it will soon be unlimted trades whenever you want.
I can't quote on phone, but does that mean mid season trade ;) lol
Quote from: whatlez on November 27, 2012, 11:47:35 AM
I can't quote on phone, but does that mean mid season trade ;) lol
no, i wil put it to vote again but even if it goes through i might make an executive decison not to.
I was joking
Quote from: Holzman on November 27, 2012, 10:50:21 AM
Quote from: Ziplock on November 27, 2012, 04:27:16 AM
Second trade period- before or after our rookie draft? how many player movements?
personally, I'd go before the rookie draft, as it means you can do 2 for 1 trades and can include rookie picks etc. And I'd say around 7-10 list movements... but with a 2nd trade period only lasting like a week or so, to minimise movements.
I will put a vote to it. I was going to have a trade period after the drafts with a cap of 4, this will stay.
But i will see if we want another trade period in between the drafts, this will have a small cap too of 4-5.
The plan next year is 10 before the draft 4 in the middle and 4 after.
Do both I say, I think you will find teams will struggle to make trades in the period after the rookie draft being limited to 1 for 1, 2 for 2 etc with no picks of any type as bargaining chips. If we want that trade period to last for a week we don't have to start the rookie draft on the day it is held we could postpone it to the end of the trade period. Or we could do what we did last year and enable trading whilst the draft was happening so that slowly as the draft moves on, later picks are still being shuffled/traded (Like last year when you traded with me to chose Smedts, Holz).
Also good idea for next year's system.
Also no to mid-season draft. It would make the competition unfair if teams changed how good they are midway through as for example I played team A, B, C, D, E before the trade period who were all the good teams and then in the mid-season trade period teams F, G, H, I, J improved and became good teams then I would have played a good team every week of the season. And conversely some teams might play extra bad teams.
Keen to trade some of my rookie picks ;)
keen to recieve some rookie picks
I still think 7 is the perfect number for trades in this period... it's a little less than half the cap last period, and is just enough so you can make maybe 2 major trade, but no more than that really.
Quote from: Ziplock on November 29, 2012, 05:24:28 PM
I still think 7 is the perfect number for trades in this period... it's a little less than half the cap last period, and is just enough so you can make maybe 2 major trade, but no more than that really.
next year the first will be 10.
So i was goign to have it 10 5 5 unless people object.
Quote from: Ziplock on November 29, 2012, 05:24:28 PM
I still think 7 is the perfect number for trades in this period... it's a little less than half the cap last period, and is just enough so you can make maybe 2 major trade, but no more than that really.
5
BECAUSE
we have already had 15
you make it 7 this period weve had 22
then if you add 5 more in jan/feb weve had 27!!! thats a whole list
Quote from: Ziplock on November 29, 2012, 05:24:28 PM
I still think 7 is the perfect number for trades in this period... it's a little less than half the cap last period, and is just enough so you can make maybe 2 major trade, but no more than that really.
Agree with Zip. With 5 you will struggle to get 2 major trades done when its not 1 for 1 and cant see how it matters if in total you have 25 or 27 list movements......
For next yr could be good to drop it to around 15. Teams seem to have there plans for the future in place now after these latest trade periods and a lesser limit will stop trade addicts like me completely changing there team each year
3 I reckon, major trades shouldn't need to be done after the previous trade period.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 29, 2012, 05:53:57 PM
3 I reckon, major trades shouldn't need to be done after the previous trade period.
this is more my thinking, major trades should all be done. this one in the middle shoudl just be for rookie picks and maybee some trading of guys taken in the nat. Remeber rookie picks wont count.
Quote from: Holzman on November 29, 2012, 05:55:21 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 29, 2012, 05:53:57 PM
3 I reckon, major trades shouldn't need to be done after the previous trade period.
this is more my thinking, major trades should all be done. this one in the middle shoudl just be for rookie picks and maybee some trading of guys taken in the nat. Remeber rookie picks wont count.
whats the point ::) in 2 minutes you'll be outta trades again so hardly worth the effort..... gotta be minimum 5 or pointless even having one!!!
Quote from: picker_man on November 29, 2012, 06:04:52 PM
Quote from: Holzman on November 29, 2012, 05:55:21 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 29, 2012, 05:53:57 PM
3 I reckon, major trades shouldn't need to be done after the previous trade period.
this is more my thinking, major trades should all be done. this one in the middle shoudl just be for rookie picks and maybee some trading of guys taken in the nat. Remeber rookie picks wont count.
whats the point ::) in 2 minutes you'll be outta trades again so hardly worth the effort..... gotta be minimum 5 or pointless even having one!!!
in 2 minutes you will be out of trades :)
it will probably be 5.
Quote from: Holzman on November 29, 2012, 06:19:07 PM
Quote from: picker_man on November 29, 2012, 06:04:52 PM
Quote from: Holzman on November 29, 2012, 05:55:21 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 29, 2012, 05:53:57 PM
3 I reckon, major trades shouldn't need to be done after the previous trade period.
this is more my thinking, major trades should all be done. this one in the middle shoudl just be for rookie picks and maybee some trading of guys taken in the nat. Remeber rookie picks wont count.
whats the point ::) in 2 minutes you'll be outta trades again so hardly worth the effort..... gotta be minimum 5 or pointless even having one!!!
in 2 minutes you will be out of trades :)
it will probably be 5.
haha give me atleast 5 and i wont be ;)
Well if people want to get rid of rookie picks we will offload some depth players like below for any rookie picks at all
- Ben Darrou
- Jimmy Webster
- Mitchell Banner
- James Podsiadlly
- Lincoln McCarthy
And some of our more valuable depth players for rookie picks in the 20s-40s
- Kyal Horsley
- Brent Renouf
- Cambell Heath
- Nick Suban
- Kamdyn McIntosh
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on November 29, 2012, 07:58:07 PM
Well if people want to get rid of rookie picks we will offload some depth players like below for any rookie picks at all
- Ben Darrou
- Jimmy Webster
- Mitchell Banner
- James Podsiadlly
- Lincoln McCarthy
And some of our more valuable depth players for rookie picks in the 20s-40s
- Kyal Horsley
- Brent Renouf
- Cambell Heath
- Nick Suban
- Kamdyn McIntosh
You lost me.
Quote from: whatlez on November 29, 2012, 09:46:38 PM
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on November 29, 2012, 07:58:07 PM
Well if people want to get rid of rookie picks we will offload some depth players like below for any rookie picks at all
- Ben Darrou
- Jimmy Webster
- Mitchell Banner
- James Podsiadlly
- Lincoln McCarthy
And some of our more valuable depth players for rookie picks in the 20s-40s
- Kyal Horsley
- Brent Renouf
- Cambell Heath
- Nick Suban
- Kamdyn McIntosh
You lost me.
A 70 av fwd for 1-2 years in exchange for a very late rookie pick is not bad...he provides good fwd cover
Holz could we please get some confirmation over what is happening with the trade periods? Are there going to be 2 more trade periods (1 before the rookie draft and 1 after), just 1 more trade period, or none at all?
Also if there are more trade periods how many players can we trade? Think it's time you just make an executive decision regarding this :)
Quote from: CrowsFan on December 01, 2012, 03:13:30 PM
Holz could we please get some confirmation over what is happening with the trade periods? Are there going to be 2 more trade periods (1 before the rookie draft and 1 after), just 1 more trade period, or none at all?
Also if there are more trade periods how many players can we trade? Think it's time you just make an executive decision regarding this :)
Sorry yeah organisation has been down a lot lately with me moving.
There will be a 2nd trade period of 6 player cap with players taken in the nat not counting and rookie picks not counting. This will start tonight. Will go up until midnight the day before the rookie drift. So let's say the drift is on a Saturday you can trade until midnight Thursday. By the Friday at midnight you need to submit a list of 40 or less players. How many less than 40 you have is equal to how many picked you can take in the rookie. So if you have 39 and have rookie 1 2 3. You take rookie your pick 1 than you gave 40 so you need to skip all your other picks.
After this there will be a 4 player cap period closer to the season which will last a week. All trades must be 1 for 1 or 2 for 2 trades etc.. .
Ok thanks holz that's very helpful :)
Holz I think the rookie draft should be delayed to the opening of DT/SC gold and all the positions are released to keep the draft even. We shouldn't do half the draft in the dark and then half the draft knowing as it creates an uneven playing field in the draft. If the info comes out say in between picks 25 and 26 and pick 26 was used on a player with a surprising new DPP it would be unfair as Pick 25 may have taken him had they known this information.
It also just generally makes filling gaps in our squads easier knowing instead of guessing.
Quote from: Scrads on December 02, 2012, 03:30:02 PM
Holz I think the rookie draft should be delayed to the opening of DT/SC gold and all the positions are released to keep the draft even. We shouldn't do half the draft in the dark and then half the draft knowing as it creates an uneven playing field in the draft. If the info comes out say in between picks 25 and 26 and pick 26 was used on a player with a surprising new DPP it would be unfair as Pick 25 may have taken him had they known this information.
It also just generally makes filling gaps in our squads easier knowing instead of guessing.
+1 This was an assumption by me.
Rivals? Can we change rivals or whatever? I wanted to be rivals with Scrads.... But now he's rivals with Spink. With 4 new coaches or whatever, can we change the rivals?
Quote from: whatlez on January 10, 2013, 01:02:17 PM
Rivals? Can we change rivals or whatever? I wanted to be rivals with Scrads.... But now he's rivals with Spink. With 4 new coaches or whatever, can we change the rivals?
can you post this in the feedback section i opened up, so i can adress all the issues in one place when im going through changes.
thanks.
would any EXV Teams like to have an alliance with the Tokyo Samurai in WXV?
You don't have to do anything just say no to any other WXV teams that ask you about it
would really appreciate it
Gents, thought I'd ask before starting the hard yakka...
Does anyone have a current list of players picked and not picked in the EXV. Was just about to start but it occured to me that someone may be willing to share
Understand if you don't want to share though ;)
Quote from: Spinking on May 11, 2013, 07:25:15 PM
Gents, thought I'd ask before starting the hard yakka...
Does anyone have a current list of players picked and not picked in the EXV. Was just about to start but it occured to me that someone may be willing to share
Understand if you don't want to share though ;)
mine's pretty out of date... so not really.
Sadly don't have one for Euro's, although got one for World's (besides unpicked).
Although probably doesn't matter now as a week later :P.
Is there any EXV games this weekend?
north vs south :P
Beware Europe, after the byes the Tommy Mitchell/Dayne Beams combo will be out to flower shower up :)
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on June 11, 2013, 05:32:01 PM
Beware Europe, after the byes the Tommy Mitchell/Dayne Beams combo will be out to flower shower up :)
Rumours flying around that Belgium are keen on a trade offer and Beamsy/Mitch are both of Belgian descent.
Mmmmm ;) Prepare your inbox :P
Does a name like Tom Mitchell get anymore English? :P
Quote from: elephants on June 11, 2013, 05:53:46 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on June 11, 2013, 05:32:01 PM
Beware Europe, after the byes the Tommy Mitchell/Dayne Beams combo will be out to flower shower up :)
Rumours flying around that Belgium are keen on a trade offer and Beamsy/Mitch are both of Belgian descent.
Mmmmm ;) Prepare your inbox :P
l thought they both had Russian heritage and were looking to renew ties with the motherland
Gents, need a quick response on this. Trying to do the ladder and honestly, bloody confused about the new % system. Can anyone explain it to me in really simple terms?
Quote from: Spinking on July 01, 2013, 06:10:10 PM
Gents, need a quick response on this. Trying to do the ladder and honestly, bloody confused about the new % system. Can anyone explain it to me in really simple terms?
its points scored/ the average of the comp.
you could just PM me the numbers and I can do it if you want.
Think you just add up all the team's score for the round and divide by the amount of teams. There's the average and just compare every team's score to the average for the percentage (score/average) :).
Has there been an official decision on the trading restrictions for this off-season?
Quote from: Scrads on July 13, 2013, 11:11:35 PM
Has there been an official decision on the trading restrictions for this off-season?
the plan is (but open for discussion)
trade period 1: max of 6 trade movements (pre draft)
trade period 2: max of 6 trade movements (post draft)
howver you can only do a told of 10 movements for both periods so if you use 6 up in period 1 you get to use only 4 in period 2. If you use none in period 1 you still only get to use 6 in period 2.
trade period 3: once DPP is fully released you get to do a max of 3 trades however you need to have a real DPP reason for doing so.
say a spud loses dpp you dont get to trade. However say an important player to me like bryce gibbs loses DPP than i can do a trade that involves strengthing my backline. Also can work say if Kade Simpson gets DPP i can trade him out for a gun mind with the reason I need to strenghen my mids and no point playing a back in the mids.
It will come to my discretion but if you have a legit reason and arent trying to find a loop hole I will pass it.
quick question- do picks count towards movements?
in my opinion, they shouldn't, and it allows flexibility/ potential for still reasonably decent trades... but keen to know your opinion holz?
Quote from: Ziplock on July 30, 2013, 08:16:43 PM
quick question- do picks count towards movements?
in my opinion, they shouldn't, and it allows flexibility/ potential for still reasonably decent trades... but keen to know your opinion holz?
I was floating the idea of first round nat picks counting as they are valuable but probably leaning towards picks not counting at all.
Should be same trading rules as last season, you got to rebuild your bottom placed team. Why cant we? :P
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on July 30, 2013, 08:55:00 PM
Should be same trading rules as last season, you got to rebuild your bottom placed team. Why cant we? :P
to be fair basically the teams that traded the most are down the bottom of the ladder. 10 trades should be ample to move up their ladder if you use them wisely.
also you have the nat picks and rookie picks to use. I actually did most of my damage in my nat picks and rookie picks.
Shuey + Picks got me Barlow + Douglas + Petrie + Sandi + Dixon thats only 1 trade.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on June 11, 2013, 05:59:47 PM
Does a name like Tom Mitchell get anymore English? :P
Hahaha yeah fair enough :P
Beams on the other hand... I googled "Dayne Beams Heritage" and got this haha!
https://www.facebook.com/footycouch/posts/380561078674842
Quote from: Holzman on July 30, 2013, 09:00:18 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on July 30, 2013, 08:55:00 PM
Should be same trading rules as last season, you got to rebuild your bottom placed team. Why cant we? :P
to be fair basically the teams that traded the most are down the bottom of the ladder. 10 trades should be ample to move up their ladder if you use them wisely.
also you have the nat picks and rookie picks to use. I actually did most of my damage in my nat picks and rookie picks.
Shuey + Picks got me Barlow + Douglas + Petrie + Sandi + Dixon thats only 1 trade.
How was that one trade? I had none of those players...
Quote from: whatlez on July 31, 2013, 08:09:05 AM
Quote from: Holzman on July 30, 2013, 09:00:18 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on July 30, 2013, 08:55:00 PM
Should be same trading rules as last season, you got to rebuild your bottom placed team. Why cant we? :P
to be fair basically the teams that traded the most are down the bottom of the ladder. 10 trades should be ample to move up their ladder if you use them wisely.
also you have the nat picks and rookie picks to use. I actually did most of my damage in my nat picks and rookie picks.
Shuey + Picks got me Barlow + Douglas + Petrie + Sandi + Dixon thats only 1 trade.
How was that one trade? I had none of those players...
should be Shuey + Picks got me Barlow + Douglas + Goldy + Harper + Petrie + Dixon
basically trading picks + shuey or using the picks I was able to add those guys to my squad
Just wondering if this:
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-08-15/new-date-for-rookie-draft
Is going to make any impact on the plans for our off-season? Last year we waited a few days after the rookie draft for all the adjusted DPP players to be announced before starting our rookie draft (so they weren't announced halfway through the draft).
There is a chance that we could start and finish our Rookie draft before the DPP are all announced. Having said that, since it will now be done earlier, perhaps VS will announce all the positions earlier? Then I would gather we would wait again. The other issue is timing of trade periods. Last year as best as I can recall it went something like this:
-Grand Final 2012
-Trade Period #1
-Nat Draft
-Trade Period #2
-Rookie Draft
-Trade Period #3 (DPP)
-Pre-season 2013
Now since the AFL Nat and Rookie drafts are only 6 days apart, it leaves us with only a tiny window for trade period #2 assuming we will still have one. An alternate option is just having 2 trade periods, one before the drafts and one after both drafts.
Another thing we could do is just run our Rookie draft a few weeks after it happens in the AFL, so that it pretty much lines up how it did last year anyway.
Just a few things for you to think about Holz :) Other people might also like to put their 2 cents in.
just push the rookie draft back.
Hey Holz, how far away are we from official rules and dates for the trade periods? :)
No rules! :P
Quote from: Scrads on August 25, 2013, 11:45:44 PM
Hey Holz, how far away are we from official rules and dates for the trade periods? :)
The first trade period is starting 12.01 next Monday.
Just finishing up the cap discussions with spinking.
Quote from: Holzman on August 26, 2013, 12:36:09 AM
Quote from: Scrads on August 25, 2013, 11:45:44 PM
Hey Holz, how far away are we from official rules and dates for the trade periods? :)
The first trade period is starting 12.01 next Monday.
Just finishing up the cap discussions with spinking.
Love this, many trades will be confirmed at this time across the XV's :P
Quote from: elephants on August 26, 2013, 01:10:24 AM
Quote from: Holzman on August 26, 2013, 12:36:09 AM
Quote from: Scrads on August 25, 2013, 11:45:44 PM
Hey Holz, how far away are we from official rules and dates for the trade periods? :)
The first trade period is starting 12.01 next Monday.
Just finishing up the cap discussions with spinking.
Love this, many trades will be confirmed at this time across the XV's :P
That is so ridiculously soon after the GF. I won't be thinking about trades... Sigh.
Quote from: LaHug on August 26, 2013, 01:40:27 AM
Quote from: elephants on August 26, 2013, 01:10:24 AM
Quote from: Holzman on August 26, 2013, 12:36:09 AM
Quote from: Scrads on August 25, 2013, 11:45:44 PM
Hey Holz, how far away are we from official rules and dates for the trade periods? :)
The first trade period is starting 12.01 next Monday.
Just finishing up the cap discussions with spinking.
Love this, many trades will be confirmed at this time across the XV's :P
That is so ridiculously soon after the GF. I won't be thinking about trades... Sigh.
Mad Monday for the boys? :P
Not sure whether this is the place to post it, but I'd be happy/keen to join an EXV team this off-season and moving forward. :)
Quote from: elephants on August 27, 2013, 02:57:45 PM
Quote from: LaHug on August 26, 2013, 01:40:27 AM
Quote from: elephants on August 26, 2013, 01:10:24 AM
Quote from: Holzman on August 26, 2013, 12:36:09 AM
Quote from: Scrads on August 25, 2013, 11:45:44 PM
Hey Holz, how far away are we from official rules and dates for the trade periods? :)
The first trade period is starting 12.01 next Monday.
Just finishing up the cap discussions with spinking.
Love this, many trades will be confirmed at this time across the XV's :P
That is so ridiculously soon after the GF. I won't be thinking about trades... Sigh.
Mad Monday for the boys? :P
My boys getting Mad September, they deserve a break as do I :D.
And awesome Nigey :D. I don't mind you down at Iceland as Daz is usually just focused on PNL in World's. We have fire breathing Polar Bears ;).
Quote from: elephants on August 27, 2013, 02:57:45 PM
Quote from: LaHug on August 26, 2013, 01:40:27 AM
Quote from: elephants on August 26, 2013, 01:10:24 AM
Quote from: Holzman on August 26, 2013, 12:36:09 AM
Quote from: Scrads on August 25, 2013, 11:45:44 PM
Hey Holz, how far away are we from official rules and dates for the trade periods? :)
The first trade period is starting 12.01 next Monday.
Just finishing up the cap discussions with spinking.
Love this, many trades will be confirmed at this time across the XV's :P
That is so ridiculously soon after the GF. I won't be thinking about trades... Sigh.
Mad Monday for the boys? :P
my eagles, have already started preseason. Absolutely filty with their finals peformances and have told them they better show me something in this off season or they are gone.
we are testing out goddard and gibbs in the mids, and have deicded to move walker down back. Forward spots are open and if nobody steps up i will trade someone in.
Quote from: Hellopplz on September 02, 2013, 11:26:56 AM
And awesome Nigey :D. I don't mind you down at Iceland as Daz is usually just focused on PNL in World's. We have fire breathing Polar Bears ;).
Sounds good to me, I'm in! First in, best dressed - smart thinking Bunny.
Is there any rule you are still deliberating about in particular Holz, that is delaying the announcement of the official rules and guidelines for trading?
I think he just wants to make everything as even as possible.
Just a suggestion, to add something new (but small) to the comp why don't we introduce a similar concept as the delisted free agency in the AFL and make it that any delisted player from a team can be signed to a new team without the need to go through the draft (probably with first in best dressed)? If the players are getting delisted in the first place it will mean it is pretty low key and won't have big impacts tbh. Just something for fun/to add to the comp/make it even more similar to AFL.
Quote from: Scrads on November 06, 2013, 01:02:13 AM
Just a suggestion, to add something new (but small) to the comp why don't we introduce a similar concept as the delisted free agency in the AFL and make it that any delisted player from a team can be signed to a new team without the need to go through the draft (probably with first in best dressed)? If the players are getting delisted in the first place it will mean it is pretty low key and won't have big impacts tbh. Just something for fun/to add to the comp/make it even more similar to AFL.
Yeah I like this a lot, will be tough for some people though who go away or switch off FF during summer
or have a life but I do like it in theory!
Quote from: elephants on November 06, 2013, 01:24:06 AM
Quote from: Scrads on November 06, 2013, 01:02:13 AM
Just a suggestion, to add something new (but small) to the comp why don't we introduce a similar concept as the delisted free agency in the AFL and make it that any delisted player from a team can be signed to a new team without the need to go through the draft (probably with first in best dressed)? If the players are getting delisted in the first place it will mean it is pretty low key and won't have big impacts tbh. Just something for fun/to add to the comp/make it even more similar to AFL.
Yeah I like this a lot, will be tough for some people though who go away or switch off FF during summer or have a life but I do like it in theory!
Could also make it you have 3 days after the person gets delisted to nominate your interest and the person lowest in ladder position who expresses interest gets him. Would be slightly more complicated though.
Quote from: Scrads on November 06, 2013, 01:46:40 AM
Quote from: elephants on November 06, 2013, 01:24:06 AM
Quote from: Scrads on November 06, 2013, 01:02:13 AM
Just a suggestion, to add something new (but small) to the comp why don't we introduce a similar concept as the delisted free agency in the AFL and make it that any delisted player from a team can be signed to a new team without the need to go through the draft (probably with first in best dressed)? If the players are getting delisted in the first place it will mean it is pretty low key and won't have big impacts tbh. Just something for fun/to add to the comp/make it even more similar to AFL.
Yeah I like this a lot, will be tough for some people though who go away or switch off FF during summer or have a life but I do like it in theory!
Could also make it you have 3 days after the person gets delisted to nominate your interest and the person lowest in ladder position who expresses interest gets him. Would be slightly more complicated though.
Could help bridge the gap between bottom teams and the top teams that way. Although makes things a little trickier if we do that.
Quote from: Hellopplz on November 06, 2013, 02:10:31 AM
Quote from: Scrads on November 06, 2013, 01:46:40 AM
Quote from: elephants on November 06, 2013, 01:24:06 AM
Quote from: Scrads on November 06, 2013, 01:02:13 AM
Just a suggestion, to add something new (but small) to the comp why don't we introduce a similar concept as the delisted free agency in the AFL and make it that any delisted player from a team can be signed to a new team without the need to go through the draft (probably with first in best dressed)? If the players are getting delisted in the first place it will mean it is pretty low key and won't have big impacts tbh. Just something for fun/to add to the comp/make it even more similar to AFL.
Yeah I like this a lot, will be tough for some people though who go away or switch off FF during summer or have a life but I do like it in theory!
Could also make it you have 3 days after the person gets delisted to nominate your interest and the person lowest in ladder position who expresses interest gets him. Would be slightly more complicated though.
Could help bridge the gap between bottom teams and the top teams that way. Although makes things a little trickier if we do that.
Not sure the bottom sides should be relying on capitalising on someone else's delistings to gain ground on the rest of the comp :P
Could do a waiver system?
Quote from: Ricochet on November 07, 2013, 04:51:32 PM
Could do a waiver system?
starting from the bottom of the ladder?
yeah, fair enough.
Quote from: Ziplock on November 07, 2013, 04:56:03 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 07, 2013, 04:51:32 PM
Could do a waiver system?
starting from the bottom of the ladder?
yeah, fair enough.
Yeh like the draft version of fantasy games.
Quote from: Ricochet on November 07, 2013, 05:36:17 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on November 07, 2013, 04:56:03 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 07, 2013, 04:51:32 PM
Could do a waiver system?
starting from the bottom of the ladder?
yeah, fair enough.
Yeh like the draft version of fantasy games.
Seems abit complex I personally like it in the rookie so the rookie draft actually has some valuable pick ups.
Quote from: Ricochet on November 07, 2013, 05:36:17 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on November 07, 2013, 04:56:03 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 07, 2013, 04:51:32 PM
Could do a waiver system?
starting from the bottom of the ladder?
yeah, fair enough.
Yeh like the draft version of fantasy games.
Speaking of which, who won our DT Elite league??
yeah, Im not participating in that next year... I like looked at my team twice :P
Quote from: elephants on November 07, 2013, 06:19:32 PM
Speaking of which, who won our DT Elite league??
That would be me. Rolled your good self in the GF from memory.
Like Holz I prefer the delisted players to go into the Rookie Draft making it deeper, but if a free agency system was implemented Id prefer it was run with father / son type restrictions - goes to the first player to pick them up, unless someone wants to bid higher for them...
On that note if the comp runs long enough than we will have father son picks.
Time to bring in Judd so I can get Oscar.
Quote from: Holzman on November 07, 2013, 06:47:14 PM
On that note if the comp runs long enough than we will have father son picks.
Time to bring in Judd so I can get Oscar.
He'll cost you a boatload then :P.
If I was the coach of a team, I'd pay two hundred boatloads. #nobias
Quote from: Hellopplz on November 07, 2013, 07:02:55 PM
Quote from: Holzman on November 07, 2013, 06:47:14 PM
On that note if the comp runs long enough than we will have father son picks.
Time to bring in Judd so I can get Oscar.
He'll cost you a boatload then :P.
Does he have 100 games left in him? :P
How many games to activate it?
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 07, 2013, 09:18:34 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on November 07, 2013, 07:02:55 PM
Quote from: Holzman on November 07, 2013, 06:47:14 PM
On that note if the comp runs long enough than we will have father son picks.
Time to bring in Judd so I can get Oscar.
He'll cost you a boatload then :P.
Does he have 100 games left in him? :P
How many games to activate it?
Was thinking whoever has him the longest.
Quote from: Holzman on November 07, 2013, 09:22:06 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 07, 2013, 09:18:34 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on November 07, 2013, 07:02:55 PM
Quote from: Holzman on November 07, 2013, 06:47:14 PM
On that note if the comp runs long enough than we will have father son picks.
Time to bring in Judd so I can get Oscar.
He'll cost you a boatload then :P.
Does he have 100 games left in him? :P
How many games to activate it?
Was thinking whoever has him the longest.
I'll trade him at the end of the season to any takers ;). Had him for 2 seasons, think should be enough :P. Or may go for another season then trade to be sure MWAHAHAHAHA >:D.
And the hunt for Judd for my BXV team begins! >:D
Quote from: Holzman on November 07, 2013, 09:22:06 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 07, 2013, 09:18:34 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on November 07, 2013, 07:02:55 PM
Quote from: Holzman on November 07, 2013, 06:47:14 PM
On that note if the comp runs long enough than we will have father son picks.
Time to bring in Judd so I can get Oscar.
He'll cost you a boatload then :P.
Does he have 100 games left in him? :P
How many games to activate it?
Was thinking whoever has him the longest.
mmmm
I think we should have a game limit, but it shouldn't be as much as 100 (since players are often dt relevant for shorter than their actual career).
It entices people to hold onto their players, but also allows the flexibility of delisting average dters when their prime is over, without worrying about people picking them up for their last couple of dt irrelevant years and being entitled to their FS picks :P
Quote from: Ziplock on November 07, 2013, 09:57:38 PM
Quote from: Holzman on November 07, 2013, 09:22:06 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 07, 2013, 09:18:34 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on November 07, 2013, 07:02:55 PM
Quote from: Holzman on November 07, 2013, 06:47:14 PM
On that note if the comp runs long enough than we will have father son picks.
Time to bring in Judd so I can get Oscar.
He'll cost you a boatload then :P.
Does he have 100 games left in him? :P
How many games to activate it?
Was thinking whoever has him the longest.
mmmm
I think we should have a game limit, but it shouldn't be as much as 100 (since players are often dt relevant for shorter than their actual career).
It entices people to hold onto their players, but also allows the flexibility of delisting average dters when their prime is over, without worrying about people picking them up for their last couple of dt irrelevant years and being entitled to their FS picks :P
Hey! :(
Will FF still be around in 18ish years when Jelwood Jnr is running around? Better get busy Joel
Quote from: Ziplock on November 07, 2013, 09:57:38 PM
Quote from: Holzman on November 07, 2013, 09:22:06 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 07, 2013, 09:18:34 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on November 07, 2013, 07:02:55 PM
Quote from: Holzman on November 07, 2013, 06:47:14 PM
On that note if the comp runs long enough than we will have father son picks.
Time to bring in Judd so I can get Oscar.
He'll cost you a boatload then :P.
Does he have 100 games left in him? :P
How many games to activate it?
Was thinking whoever has him the longest.
mmmm
I think we should have a game limit, but it shouldn't be as much as 100 (since players are often dt relevant for shorter than their actual career).
It entices people to hold onto their players, but also allows the flexibility of delisting average dters when their prime is over, without worrying about people picking them up for their last couple of dt irrelevant years and being entitled to their FS picks :P
I reckon 50 games is a good target. Can play a maximum of 18 games for the year, so would take a minimum 3 years on a club list to get there :)
But honestly, who actually thinks father/son will be relevant for these games?
Probably won't be relevant CF, but shhhhhhhhhh, I want to cash in with Judd :P.
Quote from: CrowsFan on November 07, 2013, 11:52:07 PM
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Quote from: Holzman on November 07, 2013, 06:47:14 PM
On that note if the comp runs long enough than we will have father son picks.
Time to bring in Judd so I can get Oscar.
He'll cost you a boatload then :P.
Does he have 100 games left in him? :P
How many games to activate it?
Was thinking whoever has him the longest.
mmmm
I think we should have a game limit, but it shouldn't be as much as 100 (since players are often dt relevant for shorter than their actual career).
It entices people to hold onto their players, but also allows the flexibility of delisting average dters when their prime is over, without worrying about people picking them up for their last couple of dt irrelevant years and being entitled to their FS picks :P
I reckon 50 games is a good target. Can play a maximum of 18 games for the year, so would take a minimum 3 years on a club list to get there :)
But honestly, who actually thinks father/son will be relevant for these games?
we'll see cf. We'll see.
yeah, 50 sounds like an ok target :P
Quote from: Spinking on November 07, 2013, 06:45:47 PM
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Speaking of which, who won our DT Elite league??
That would be me. Rolled your good self in the GF from memory.
Haha dammit, congrats mate 8)
We can delist players we drafted in the nat draft prior to the roolie right?
hahaha
you're picking up players in the nat then delisting them?
harsh. :P
Quote from: Ziplock on November 28, 2013, 08:41:57 PM
hahaha
you're picking up players in the nat then delisting them?
harsh. :P
If they don't work hard enough in Arizona with Campbell Brown then there out the door
Anyone know what the go with rookie lists is in Euros? Its not 35 seniors and 5 rookies is it?
yep. 35 seniors and 5 rookies.
Figured as much! Wanted to make sure. And we get to select our rookies after we get a list of 40 right? Different to the other XV's if I remember correctly.
Yeah sicko, cheers Zip. And yep, fairly sure that how it works HP :D
Quote from: Hellopplz on November 28, 2013, 09:10:16 PM
Figured as much! Wanted to make sure. And we get to select our rookies after we get a list of 40 right? Different to the other XV's if I remember correctly.
Correct you pick a new bunch of rookies each year.
So if you have 38 guys before rookie and delist 1, you have 3 rookie picks. Than after that you pick 5 guys, regardless of when you drafted them for your rookie list.
If you have 45 guys on your list before rookie than you need to delist 5, you need to delist 6 or more to get picks
Yes you can delist Nat guys, but that's stupid just skip Nat picks, as if you skip Nat 30 you get a rookie pick after 30 so basically 31. If you delist a guy you will get a later rookie pick like 60+
I have a couple of questions
What needs to happen for us to be able to upgrade a rookie?
And where do we post it?
We can`t field a full backline this week and one of our rookies is a back so we need to see if we can upgrade him or not.
Quote from: luvfooty on April 03, 2014, 07:13:56 PM
I have a couple of questions
What needs to happen for us to be able to upgrade a rookie?
And where do we post it?
We can`t field a full backline this week and one of our rookies is a back so we need to see if we can upgrade him or not.
you need to have a LTI as listed by the AFL.
What happens if you are unable to field a team even with OOP players filling spots?
Quote from: luvfooty on April 08, 2014, 10:07:49 PM
What happens if you are unable to field a team even with OOP players filling spots?
than you get zero points from those positions. Sounds harsh but really you should be able to have at least 15 players playing each week given how big our lists are. and we have rookie lists so any long injuries can bring rookies on. The rookie drafts have been strong and there were plenty of 55-60 average players.
396 players play each week. and only 14 Euro clubs so on average we should have euro teams having 28 aviliable, so 15 shouldnt be too much of a stretch.
Quote from: Holzman on April 08, 2014, 10:15:48 PM
Quote from: luvfooty on April 08, 2014, 10:07:49 PM
What happens if you are unable to field a team even with OOP players filling spots?
than you get zero points from those positions. Sounds harsh but really you should be able to have at least 15 players playing each week given how big our lists are. and we have rookie lists so any long injuries can bring rookies on. The rookie drafts have been strong and there were plenty of 55-60 average players.
396 players play each week. and only 14 Euro clubs so on average we should have euro teams having 28 aviliable, so 15 shouldnt be too much of a stretch.
Well we have 7 players out injured plus Clark retired 2 suspended so there`s 10 players right there.
We have 7 forwards available if they all play
Only 3 of our backs actually played last week the rest are injured,coming back from injuries or were dropped.
We may have 6 mids available if they all play
McEvoy should be back for rucks
So yeah we may be lucky if we can field a full team this round
Thats just unlucky. We can't change the rules for teams with low depth
Quote from: Ricochet on April 09, 2014, 12:01:33 PM
Thats just unlucky. We can't change the rules for teams with low depth
Did I ask for a rule change at all?
No I asked Holz a question he asnswered it and i stated that it is possible that we might not be able to field a team this week despite Holz saying teams should be able to.
So mind your own business and check posts before replying
Quote from: luvfooty on April 09, 2014, 11:52:02 AM
Quote from: Holzman on April 08, 2014, 10:15:48 PM
Quote from: luvfooty on April 08, 2014, 10:07:49 PM
What happens if you are unable to field a team even with OOP players filling spots?
than you get zero points from those positions. Sounds harsh but really you should be able to have at least 15 players playing each week given how big our lists are. and we have rookie lists so any long injuries can bring rookies on. The rookie drafts have been strong and there were plenty of 55-60 average players.
396 players play each week. and only 14 Euro clubs so on average we should have euro teams having 28 aviliable, so 15 shouldnt be too much of a stretch.
Well we have 7 players out injured plus Clark retired 2 suspended so there`s 10 players right there.
We have 7 forwards available if they all play
Only 3 of our backs actually played last week the rest are injured,coming back from injuries or were dropped.
We may have 6 mids available if they all play
McEvoy should be back for rucks
So yeah we may be lucky if we can field a full team this round
With Clark retired, you should be able to bring one rookie up from the rookie list (I believe... Holz can correct me if I'm wrong).
Sucks though :( feel bad for you!
I upgraded Ashby last week Huggy for Clark as we needed a defender that was playing
Thankyou hopefully this is it for the year now and it gets better as we go along
Quote from: luvfooty on April 09, 2014, 12:03:59 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on April 09, 2014, 12:01:33 PM
Thats just unlucky. We can't change the rules for teams with low depth
Did I ask for a rule change at all?
No I asked Holz a question he asnswered it and i stated that it is possible that we might not be able to field a team this week despite Holz saying teams should be able to.
So mind your own business and check posts before replying
lol seriously? flowering settle down
Calm down you two, no need to go at it.
Just a bad run of injuries Luv, hopefully get a few back soon! We have like 8 backs playing even without Rance/Dempsey. Iceland is known for our depth :P. Would help you guys out if we could :-\.
Yeah, Svalbard has like 8 defenders playing this week.
We're actually running short on mids though :P With Christensen injured, Ziebell injured, Adams suspended, Stevens, Smith injured, Trengove, Hoskin-elliott, Jacobs in and out of teams.
And forwards, with Goodes, Dawes, Grant, Gumbleton all injured.
I mean, a lot of those players are depth, but it's a pain when you don't have any depth to fall back on :P
Quote from: luvfooty on April 09, 2014, 11:52:02 AM
Quote from: Holzman on April 08, 2014, 10:15:48 PM
Quote from: luvfooty on April 08, 2014, 10:07:49 PM
What happens if you are unable to field a team even with OOP players filling spots?
than you get zero points from those positions. Sounds harsh but really you should be able to have at least 15 players playing each week given how big our lists are. and we have rookie lists so any long injuries can bring rookies on. The rookie drafts have been strong and there were plenty of 55-60 average players.
396 players play each week. and only 14 Euro clubs so on average we should have euro teams having 28 aviliable, so 15 shouldnt be too much of a stretch.
Well we have 7 players out injured plus Clark retired 2 suspended so there`s 10 players right there.
We have 7 forwards available if they all play
Only 3 of our backs actually played last week the rest are injured,coming back from injuries or were dropped.
We may have 6 mids available if they all play
McEvoy should be back for rucks
So yeah we may be lucky if we can field a full team this round
if they play you should be able to field a team with 1 OOP player. The Eagles in the first season had that issue all the time, I had no forwards as they were all injured or dropped so was playing defenders in the forward line.
I assume when you say not fielding a full team your talking about not having 3 emergency. Could be a tough few weeks but should bounce back soon. I remember once i could only name a team of 15 and had no emergency.
Quote from: Holzman on April 09, 2014, 06:27:35 PM
Quote from: luvfooty on April 09, 2014, 11:52:02 AM
Quote from: Holzman on April 08, 2014, 10:15:48 PM
Quote from: luvfooty on April 08, 2014, 10:07:49 PM
What happens if you are unable to field a team even with OOP players filling spots?
than you get zero points from those positions. Sounds harsh but really you should be able to have at least 15 players playing each week given how big our lists are. and we have rookie lists so any long injuries can bring rookies on. The rookie drafts have been strong and there were plenty of 55-60 average players.
396 players play each week. and only 14 Euro clubs so on average we should have euro teams having 28 aviliable, so 15 shouldnt be too much of a stretch.
Well we have 7 players out injured plus Clark retired 2 suspended so there`s 10 players right there.
We have 7 forwards available if they all play
Only 3 of our backs actually played last week the rest are injured,coming back from injuries or were dropped.
We may have 6 mids available if they all play
McEvoy should be back for rucks
So yeah we may be lucky if we can field a full team this round
if they play you should be able to field a team with 1 OOP player. The Eagles in the first season had that issue all the time, I had no forwards as they were all injured or dropped so was playing defenders in the forward line.
I assume when you say not fielding a full team your talking about not having 3 emergency. Could be a tough few weeks but should bounce back soon. I remember once i could only name a team of 15 and had no emergency.
Yeah I can field a team based on last weeks players need to rely on them all getting named again tho and I`m praying that Clancee gets named for Freo this week and by some chance a couple of dropped players get back into their teams
And yeah will probably have no emergencies
Got to hope its all happening now and that it gets better as the season goes along very frustrating as all my teams are copping a lot of injuries atm.
What are you guys doing about af adding positions to players this week?
Quote from: ossie85 on May 06, 2014, 02:58:32 PM
What are you guys doing about af adding positions to players this week?
Was about to post about this, my plan was no changes. It's only AF that is doing it I think, I'm running the comp to follow real dt.
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Quote from: ossie85 on May 06, 2014, 02:58:32 PM
What are you guys doing about af adding positions to players this week?
Was about to post about this, my plan was no changes. It's only AF that is doing it I think, I'm running the comp to follow real dt.
Would be way unfair to have players change positions mid-season so I agree they should stay the same.
Said it in the WXV thread on the topic, I'm against it. Any major rule change mid-season is a bad idea IMO.
Ummmm what? As in they're giving players DPP, or taking them away?
Quote from: Ziplock on May 06, 2014, 05:19:35 PM
Ummmm what? As in they're giving players DPP, or taking them away?
Yeah they are giving 18 players DPP. No player will lose/exchange their current position, just possibly gain one. They are announcing it on Thursday.
AF is a flowering joke. Worst competition.
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Quote from: Ziplock on May 06, 2014, 05:19:35 PM
Ummmm what? As in they're giving players DPP, or taking them away?
Yeah they are giving 18 players DPP. No player will lose/exchange their current position, just possibly gain one. They are announcing it on Thursday.
AF is a flowering joke. Worst competition.
wouldnt be suprised to see them give swan, ablett etc... F/M in a desperate attempt to keep people interested.
Quote from: Holzman on May 06, 2014, 05:39:34 PM
Quote from: Vinny on May 06, 2014, 05:23:43 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on May 06, 2014, 05:19:35 PM
Ummmm what? As in they're giving players DPP, or taking them away?
Yeah they are giving 18 players DPP. No player will lose/exchange their current position, just possibly gain one. They are announcing it on Thursday.
AF is a flowering joke. Worst competition.
wouldnt be suprised to see them give swan, ablett etc... F/M in a desperate attempt to keep people interested.
Haha yeah probably. Glad I just played SC and RDT this year.
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Quote from: Holzman on May 06, 2014, 05:39:34 PM
Quote from: Vinny on May 06, 2014, 05:23:43 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on May 06, 2014, 05:19:35 PM
Ummmm what? As in they're giving players DPP, or taking them away?
Yeah they are giving 18 players DPP. No player will lose/exchange their current position, just possibly gain one. They are announcing it on Thursday.
AF is a flowering joke. Worst competition.
wouldnt be suprised to see them give swan, ablett etc... F/M in a desperate attempt to keep people interested.
Haha yeah probably. Glad I just played SC and RDT this year.
Same Vinny, DT/SC only ones for me as well as don't want too may teams to run.
Haha yeah too much to worry about as it is with two teams hey.
And it sucks cause I focus and put work into SC, RDT was gut decisions straight away and now I am killing it in that and doing flower all in SC. :(
Haha, next season I am seriously considering just running the one team. All this stuff with 3 teams and a stack of XV teams is doing me head in!
I am pretty bad at Fantasy, so just play SC/DT for fun. Also have World's/Euro's the deal with so similar to you El, don't want too much on your plate on a weekly basis when real life also has to be seen to! I can't imagine how others like Nails handle several fantasy comps not to mention like 4-5 XV teams and stuff. That'd be crazy on a weekly basis!
Yeah, I agree with the both of you. Finding that doing AF/DT/SC and this is very difficult and time consuming. I think my captains article also takes a bit too much time... Next year, I'll definitely cut back. I'll be applying for jobs and travelling too (hopefully) so that'll take up a lot of time.
I reckon that I might just do XVs next year.
How does Euros work during bye rounds?
Quote from: NigeyS on May 08, 2014, 06:42:03 PM
How does Euros work during bye rounds?
we dont play during the byes. With only 14 teams we only have 14 games during the season.
Quote from: Holzman on May 08, 2014, 07:02:57 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on May 08, 2014, 06:42:03 PM
How does Euros work during bye rounds?
we dont play during the byes. With only 14 teams we only have 14 games during the season.
Right, just saw the fixture as well. Cheers.
We were meant to have Divisional matches going, where the top 2 coaches thus far in the Divisions pick teams based on the players available. But depends if anybody wants to organise it (I would have but kinda packed with work to do :( ).
I loaded page 8 cause it was 'new' and didn't realise there was a new page
calm your shower man..
I am calm mate, just pointing out that the 3 replies above yours are all talking about what is going on during the bye rounds. Not that hard to read it really.
Yeah I know and I explained what happened, no need to be a dick about it.
Where was I being a dick? I replied to your question with the relevant information you asked for? If anything I mas more than helpful ;)
I don't really mind, to me it came like you were being a dick.
"Learn to read mate. ::)"
You could have just quoted it. Sorry Mr Perfect.
I don't really care though haha just saying
WHY MUST WE ALL FIGHT?!?!?!
Quote from: Hellopplz on May 09, 2014, 08:41:56 PM
WHY MUST WE ALL FIGHT?!?!?!
WOULD SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN
Haha it's a discussion not an argument right HB? ;)
Don't tell me what it is! :P
I'll tell you what I want.
Quote from: Vinny on May 09, 2014, 08:56:57 PM
I'll tell you what I want.
A hug?
>(^_^)> <(^_^)<
I'm so use to modifying such a post in my favour :P. It's weird just leaving it there...
Hahaha true
Quote from: Hellopplz on May 09, 2014, 09:09:09 PM
I'm so use to modifying such a post in my favour :P. It's weird just leaving it there...
;)
Damn mods haha :P
Hahahahaha nice Holz :P.
I was going to change it to something like "I love you HP" :P. It was changed to something eventually!
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No idea if this is the correct place to post this or not but for the Wolves, Jobe Watson moves to the LTI list and Nathan Hrovat is elevated.
Probably in the general team thread (where all the teams are listed), but guess people will still see if here :P.
Poor Jobe :(.
Thinking of letting the weaker teams have bigger list sizes
Thoughts?
Quote from: Holzman on July 09, 2014, 02:49:48 PM
Thinking of letting the weaker teams have bigger list sizes
Thoughts?
:p
Haha, where have I seen this before :p
Reckon I'd be for it.
Wouldn't that just give them a slightly higher chance of hitting an ok player in the rookie draft? It might mitigate the forcing of OOP etc., but honestly wouldn't make that much of a difference to a season or long term.
If I had to pick a strategy for continually struggling teams like the dinos, I'd say use a combination of priority pick and priority picks that are only tradable (so picks similar to the mini-draft picks gws had... for instance, dinos get two picks at the end of the first round that they can't use to draft players, and can only use to trade for other players... maybe with stipulations they can't be used to trade mainly for other picks (which unfortunately would be up to the discretion of the league admins as to the definition of mainly)).
Imo trade-locked draft picks are the best way to quickly advance a team that's languishing on the bottom of the table.
They will be getting priority picks with the dinos getting 1 and 3 and rookie 1. Will look into the locked draft picks though. Think the cap size will help if they use it correctly. Not sure how much but every bit helps.
Really the only way to rise up is good management though so will be working on that side of it too.
Merger + expansion team?
Quote from: Holzman on July 09, 2014, 04:12:49 PM
They will be getting priority picks with the dinos getting 1 and 3 and rookie 1. Will look into the locked draft picks though. Think the cap size will help if they use it correctly. Not sure how much but every bit helps.
Really the only way to rise up is good management though so will be working on that side of it too.
wouldn't the dinos already have been getting nat 1 and R1 though?
yeah, the increased list size should help to a degree, for immediate effect though I think the trade locked picks will have more of an impact though.
Quote from: Scrads on July 09, 2014, 05:05:08 PM
Merger + expansion team?
who merges though?
As the (co-)coach of the Dinos, I think you know I'd be in favour of this.
Quote from: NigeyS on July 09, 2014, 07:19:59 PM
As the coach of the Dinos, I think you know I'd be in favour of this.
Agree with Zippy, quick way to help them out is give them draft picks they are only allowed to trade, otherwise they are lost if untraded (more reason to trade). Also would likely need the help of some of the bigger teams willing to let go of some players in order to make the comp a bit more even (Dinos struggle the worst with Norway sometimes finding it hard to field a team). Otherwise quite a lot of the teams are even in here...