Trading Begins: 9:00 AM EST time Monday 3rd Spetember
Trading Ends: Midnight EST on the day the real national draft is held.
MAX OF 15 PLAYERS FROM YOUR 2012 SQUAD LEAVING YOUR TEAM
NO SECOND TRADE PERIOD
Trades to not have to be pick for pick, i.e. you can trade Scott Pendlebury for 2 players and 2 draft picks if you want, it doesn't have to be a 1 for 1, or 2 for 2.
Once both teams has posted in this thread agreeing on the deal it will be locked in
this is important. I would prefer no comenting on trades till all parties have agreed.
All questionable trades will be put to a vote, note this is designed for only really one sided trades were its a terrible deal, not just where some team is winning.
I would also like if with each trade you could give a tiny bit on why you are doing the trade (this should help with people thinking things are one sided)
The Cap will be increasing by 5 this year. But there is an additional rule with this. Before the season starts you must classify 5 of your players as rookie (this does not actually have to be rookie you could put ablett on the list if you wanted to).
These players can not be named in your squad however if you have a LTI like i had with lecras than you can elevate a rookie like they do in the afl. You will also be able to elevate a rookie halfway through the Euro season.
You will be given 5 nat draft picks and 5 rookie pick. Now the cap size is only increasing by 5 and you get 10 picks so if you dont delist anyone or having any retiring players than you will be allowed to only use 5 draft picks. So if you have a full sqaud and the rookie draft starts your picks will be skipped. You are allowed to delist players up untill the euro rookie draft starts. All players you delist along with players who were not picked last year (such as Broc Mclean) will be avilable in the rookie draft.
If you choose to delist lots of your players and you want to use more than the 10 allocated draft picks than you will need to trade for them because if you use all your picks and you still dont have a complete sqaud than you will just have less players on your sqaud.
TRADES COMPLETED
Dino's Receive: Leuy, Barlow and Palmer
Basher's Receive: Birchall, Blair, Hmac
Dino's Receive: National Picks No.9 and No.38
Basher's Receive: Rookie Pick No.2
Macedonia Receive: Tom Scully
Serbia Receive: Brandon Ellis
Eagles Receive: Michael Barlow
Dino's Receive: Nat Pick 1
Dinos receive: Michael Johnson
Eagles Reciieve: Andrew Walker
Eagles Receive: Goldstein + Harper + Polec
Son's Receive: Shuey + Nat Pick 15 + Nat Pick 30
Macedonia Receive:Gary Rohan + Sam Iles
Scotland Receive:Rookie Pick #12 + National Draft Pick #55
Macedonia Receive:Kurt Tippett + National Draft Pick #35
Scotland Receive:Alex Fasolo + Sharrod Wellingham
Dinos receive: Michael Johnson
Eagles Reciieve: Andrew Walker
The Sons receive: Pick 11 of Rookie Draft, Rookie Pick 25, Pick 26 of the NAT Draft
Stallions receive: Elliott Kavangh, Anthony Miles and Pick 15.
The Sons receive: Trent McKenzie
Trolls receive: Ed Curnow + Pick 55 NAT
The Titans receive: Billie Smedts + Pick 68 Rookie Draft
The Wolves receive: Pick 10 Rookie Draft
The Trolls Recieve : Stevie J + Chris Judd + Hayden Ballantyne
The Wolves Recieve : Michael Hibberd + Tendai Mzungu+ Ben Reid + Liam Summer + NAT pick 5 + NAT pick 55
Trolls Recieve : Rookie Pick 13
Metal Recieve : Corey Enright
Trolls Receive: Newman + Petrie
Dinos Receive: pick 20 + 48 + Hayden Crozier
EAGLES TRADE: TRENT COTCHIN
TROLLS TRADE: SCOTT PENDLEBURY
Norway receive: Jack Redden, Harley Bennell and pick #28 in the national draft.
Sweden receive: Steve Johnson, Scott Thompson (ade) and Lenny Hayes.
Dino's give: Aaron Sandilands and pick 16 of the rookie draft
Savage songs give: pick 21 of Nat and Matt Buntine
Dinos give: Nick Dal Santo
Metal give: Jeff Gartlett, John Butcher and rook pick 27
Trools recieve : Tom Liberatore + Devon Smith + pick 49 NAT draft
Sons recieve : pick 5, 13 and 19 in rookie draft
Bashers Receive: Andrew Carrazzo + national pick 27 + national pick 41
Wolves receive: Josh J Kennedy + Brad Symes + Travis Colyer
Trolls receive: Luke Tapscott + Rookie Pick #24
Bashers receive: Matthew Lobbe + Travis Varcoe
Bison (LH) get: Scotland (Titans), Taylor (trolls), Pick 10 (Titans), Pick 28 (Trolls)
Titans (Spink) get: D. Smith (Trolls), Pick 7 (Bison), Pick 50 (Bison)
Trolls (pickers) get: Stanton (Bison), Pick 67 (Titans)
Trolls recieve - Nathan Foley + Rookie pick 68
Titans recieve - Tom Liberatore + Jed Lamb
Trolls get: C Cornes + G Johncock + M Jamar + A McGrath + B Maloney
Titans get: Tapscott + Morabito + Pick 33 Rookie Draft
Sweden Receive: Pick 10 + 28
Belarus Receive: Sam Mitchell + 56
Norway Receive: Rance + Grundy + Hoskin-Elliot + Pick 36
Belarus Receive: Zorko + Bolton + Pick 49 + Pick 62
Greece Receive: Pick 13
Sweden Receive: Nick Riewoldt
Bison give: N. Jones + Pick 22 + Pick 56
Savage Sons give: Duffield + Pick 30 + Pick 63
Trolls recieve: Westhoff + Rookie Pick 52
Titans recieve: Hoskin Elliott + Nat Pick 67
Serbia Receive: Brett Deledio + Pick 7
Greece Receive: Dylan Shiel + Stephen Coniglio + Brandon Ellis + Daniel Pearce.
Iceland Receive: H. Bennell + A. Rance + C. Judd + H. Grundy
Norway Receive: J. Selwood + B. Harvey + J. Brown
Spain Receive: Matt Priddis+Mitchell Grigg
Serbia Receive: Matthew Boyd.
Scotland Receive: McMahon + Hurn + Nat 13 + Rook 25
Greece Receive: Hannebery + Patton + Rook 34
Vatican Trade: Riewoldt + Nat 19 + Nat 33 + Rookie 32
Belarus trade: Krakouer + Betts + Cunnington + Nat 36 + Rookie 35
Dinos give: Rookie 27 + 44
Trolls give: Nat 34 + 36
Serbia Trade: Rookie 29 + Rookie 43
Norway Trade: Drew Petrie
Serbia Trade: Shane Mumford + Jared Polec + Todd Elton + Nat 44 + Rookie 15
Iceland Trade: Brendan Goddard + Rookie 8
Dutch Gvie: 30
Norway Give: Brad Hill
Bashers Give Patrick Dangerfield, Leroy Jetta, Nick O'Brien
Stallions Give Matthew Priddis, Matthew Wright, National Pick 15
Titans receive: Tom Scully + Rookie 54
Wolves receive: Jed Lamb + Nat 25 + Rookie 24
Scrads gives: Rookie Pick 10 + Ibbotson
Lez gives: Rookie Pick 6 + Rookie Pick 25
Bashers Give - Mitch Morton
Stallions Give - Jasper Pittard, Rookie Pick 39, National Pick 54
Bashers give : Josh Caddy, Jasper Pittard, Nick Suban
Vatican gives :Pick 4 NAT, Pick 36 NAT, Pick 47 NAT, Pick 35 PSD
Macedonia give: Nat Pick 25 + Rookie Pick 26
Scotland give: Rookie Pick 13
Valkyries give: Nat 61
Bisons give: Setana O'hailpin
Scotland give - Hurn + rookie 20 + 26
Trolls give - Ballantyne + rookie 29,30,37,43,44
Greece Gives: Troy Chaplin + Pick 54 Rookie + Pick 66 Rookie
Belarus Gives: Pick 21 Rookie + Pick 49 Rookie + Pick 63 Rookie
Trolls receive: B Sewell + Pick 33 Rookie Draft + Pick 34 Rookie Draft + Pick 49 Rookie Draft
Titans receive: Pick 26 Rookie Draft + Pick 27 Rookie Draft + Pick 41 Rookie Draft + Pick 52 Rookie Draft
Wolves give: rookie 40 + national 35,55
Trolls give: rookie 23
Scrads trades: Gram + Rookie 25
Pickers trades: Foley + Rookie 33
Scotland Recieves: Jared Brennan
Greece Recieves: Pick 37 Rook + Pick 48 Rook
Scrads gives:Hibberd + Petrenko + Rohan + Rookie 13
Lez gives:Hartlett + Rookie 10 + Rookie 30 + Nat 56
Bashers gives: Robin Nahas + Nat 36 + Rook 39
Sons gives: Rook 5
Iceland get: Picks 39 Nat, 50 Nat , 53 Nat
Greece gets: Pick 22 Rook
Nostradamus gives....... Leigh Montagna, Ryan O'Keefe, Courtenay Dempsey, Rookie 42 + Rookie 56
Pickers gives....... Jack Redden, Shannon Hurn, Rookie 25, Nat 35 + Nat 55
Elephants Gives: Brent Moloney
Nostra Gives: National Pick 14
Hawka gives: Waite + Lower + rookie 58
for
Pickers gives: Westhoff + Curnow + rookie 34
Scrads gives:
Pavlich + Colyer + Symes + Nat 56
LE/RIC/FARK/WHOLE OF FF gives:
Varcoe + Rookie 9 + Rookie 51 + Nat 47
Serbia trade chris knights + nat 16 + Campbell Heath
Belgium trade Brodie smith + rookie 35 + rookie 65
Serbia Trades - K.Cornes
Norway Trades - B.Harvey
Scrads trades:
Daniel Gorringe + Liam Sumner
HP trades:
Nat Pick 8 + Nat Pick 44
Scrads trades:
Nat 8 + Nat 12
Hawka trades:
Liam Shiels + Nat 17
Titans give: Pick 38 Rookie
Lions give: Seb Ross (St Kilda
Holz trades : Brodie Smith and Rookie #8
JB trades: Heath Shaw and Rookie #38
Pickers gives: gibson + rookie 58
Scrads gives: Nat 44 + rookie 51
Pickers trades:Dempsey
HP trades: Rookie 15 + Nat 50
Bashers give: Nat 15 + Rookie 5
Lions give: Nat 3
Bison give Chis Dawes and NAT pick 61
Polar Bears give Xavier Ellis and NAT pick 39
Bashers Give: Adams, lynch, N27 and R2.
Zip Gives: Marc Murphy
1. Hawka
2. Hawka
3. Elephants
4. Elephants
5. Scrads
6. Whatlez
7. Holz
8. Hawka
9. Hawka
10. Nails
11. Torpedo
12. Hawka
13. Whatlez
14. Elephants
15. Jb
16. Elephants
17. Scrads
18. Jb
19. Lahug
20. Hakwa
21. Hawka
22. Whatlez
23. HP
24. Elephants
25. Whatlez
26. Whatlez
27. Zip
28. Nails
29. Nostradamus
30. Lahug
31. Hawka
32. JB
33. Lahug
34. Hawka
35. Nostradamus
36. Whatlez
37. HP
38. Hawka
39. LaHug
40. Torpedo
41. Elephants
42. Nails
43. Nostradamus
44. Pickers
45. Hawka
46. JB
47. Scrads
48. Hawka
49. Lahug
50. Pickers
51. HP
52. Elephants
53. HP
54. Elephants
55. Nostradamus
56. Elephants
57. Nostradamus
58. Holz
59. Hawka
60. JB
61. HP
62. Lahug
63. Lahug
64. Lahug
65. HP
66. Elephants
67. Spinking
68. Torpedo
69. Scrads
70. Nails
71. Nostradamus
CURRENT ROOKIE DRAFT ORDER:
1. Holz
2. Zip
3. JB
4. Ziplock
5. JB
6. Scrads
7. Lahug
8. JB
9. Scrads
10. Scrads
11. Whatlez
12. Whatlez
13. Whatlez
14. Nostradamus
15. Pickers
16. Whatlez
17. JB
18. Ziplock
19. Whatlez
20. Pickers
21. Spinking
22. Spinking
23. Scrads
24. Scrads
25. Nostradamus
26. Spinking
27. Spinking
28. Nostradamus
29. Whatlez
30. Scrads
31. JB
32. Lahug
33. Scrads
34. Hawka
35. Holz
36. HP
37. Spinking
38. Holz
39. Whatelz
40. Pickers
41. Spinking
42. Pickers
43. Whatlez
44. Whatlez
45. JB
46. Ziplock
47. Pickers
48. Spinking
49. Pickers
50. HP
51. Pickers
52. Spinking
53. Torpedo
54. Lahug
55. Nails
56. Pickers
57. Holz
58. Scrads
59. JB
60. Ziplock
61. Pickers
62. Whatlez
63. Spinking
64. HP
65. Holz
66. Lahug
67. Torpedo
68. Pickers
69. Nails
70. Nostradamus
Trading Begins: 9:00 AM EST time Monday 3rd Spetember
Trading Ends: Midnight EST on the day the real national draft is held.
MAX OF 15 PLAYERS FROM YOUR 2012 SQUAD LEAVING YOUR TEAM
NO SECOND TRADE PERIOD
Trades to not have to be pick for pick, i.e. you can trade Scott Pendlebury for 2 players and 2 draft picks if you want, it doesn't have to be a 1 for 1, or 2 for 2.
Once both teams has posted in this thread agreeing on the deal it will be locked in
this is important. I would prefer no commenting on trades till all parties have agreed.
All questionable trades will be put to a vote, note this is designed for only really one sided trades were its a terrible deal, not just where some team is winning.
I would also like if with each trade you could give a tiny bit on why you are doing the trade (this should help with people thinking things are one sided)
The Cap will be increasing by 5 this year. But there is an additional rule with this. Before the season starts you must classify 5 of your players as rookie (this does not actually have to be rookie you could put ablett on the list if you wanted to).
These players can not be named in your squad however if you have a LTI like i had with lecras than you can elevate a rookie like they do in the afl. You will also be able to elevate a rookie halfway through the Euro season.
You will be given 5 nat draft picks and 5 rookie pick. Now the cap size is only increasing by 5 and you get 10 picks so if you dont delist anyone or having any retiring players than you will be allowed to only use 5 draft picks. So if you have a full sqaud and the rookie draft starts your picks will be skipped. You are allowed to delist players up untill the euro rookie draft starts. All players you delist along with players who were not picked last year (such as Broc Mclean) will be avilable in the rookie draft.
If you choose to delist lots of your players and you want to use more than the 10 allocated draft picks than you will need to trade for them because if you use all your picks and you still dont have a complete squad than you will just have less players on your sqaud.
Trade Period 1
Ele gives: Leuy, Barlow and Palmer
Hawka gives: Birchall, Blair, Hmac
Ele gives: National Picks No.9 and No.38
Hawka gives: Rookie Pick No.2
Holz gives: Tom Scully
Scrads gives: Brandon Ellis
Hawka gives: Michael Barlow
Holz gives: Nat Pick 1
Holz gives: Michael Johnson
Hawka gives: Andrew Walker
Whatlez gives: Goldstein + Harper + Polec
Holz gives: Shuey + Nat Pick 15 + Nat Pick 30
Whatlez gives: Gary Rohan + Sam Iles
Scrads gives: Rookie Pick #12 + National Draft Pick #55
Whatlez gives: Kurt Tippett + National Draft Pick #35
Scrads gives: Alex Fasolo + Sharrod Wellingham
Torp gives: Pick 11 of Rookie Draft, Rookie Pick 25, Pick 26 of the NAT Draft
Whatlez gives: Elliott Kavangh, Anthony Miles and Pick 15.
Pickers gives: Trent McKenzie
Whatlez gives: Ed Curnow + Pick 55 NAT
Scrads gives: Billie Smedts + Pick 68 Rookie Draft
Spinking gives: Pick 10 Rookie Draft
Scrads gives: Stevie J + Chris Judd + Hayden Ballantyne
Pickers gives: Michael Hibberd + Tendai Mzungu+ Ben Reid + Liam Summer + NAT pick 5 + NAT pick 55
Nails gives: Rookie Pick 13
Pickers gives: Corey Enright
Hawka gives: Newman + Petrie
Pickers gives: pick 20 + 48 + Hayden Crozier
Holz gives: Trent Cotchin
Pickers gives: Scott Pendlebury
Nails gives: Jack Redden, Harley Bennell and pick #28 in the national draft.
Pickers gives: Steve Johnson, Scott Thompson (ade) and Lenny Hayes.
Whatlez gives: Aaron Sandilands and pick 16 of the rookie draft
Hawka gives: pick 21 of Nat and Matt Buntine
Hawka gives: Nick Dal Santo
Nails gives: Jeff Gartlett, John Butcher and rook pick 27
Whatlez gives: Tom Liberatore + Devon Smith + pick 49 NAT draft
Pickers gives: pick 5, 13 and 19 in rookie draft
Scrads gives: Andrew Carrazzo + national pick 27 + national pick 41
Ele gives: Josh J Kennedy + Brad Symes + Travis Colyer
Ele gives: Luke Tapscott + Rookie Pick #24
Pickers gives: Matthew Lobbe + Travis Varcoe
LaHug gets: Scotland (Titans), Taylor (trolls), Pick 10 (Titans), Pick 28 (Trolls)
Spink gets: D. Smith (Trolls), Pick 7 (Bison), Pick 50 (Bison)
Pickers gets: Stanton (Bison), Pick 67 (Titans)
Spinking gives - Nathan Foley + Rookie pick 68
Pickers gives - Tom Liberatore + Jed Lamb
Spinking gives: C Cornes + G Johncock + M Jamar + A McGrath + B Maloney
Pickers gives: Tapscott + Morabito + Pick 33 Rookie Draft
LaHug gives: Pick 10 + 28
Nails gives: Sam Mitchell + 56
LaHug gives: Rance + Grundy + Hoskin-Elliot + Pick 36
Pickers gives: Zorko + Bolton + Pick 49 + Pick 62
Nails gives: Pick 13
Spinking gives: Nick Riewoldt
LaHug gives: N. Jones + Pick 22 + Pick 56
Whatlez give: Duffield + Pick 30 + Pick 63
Spinking gives: Westhoff + Rookie Pick 52
Pickers gives: Hoskin Elliott + Nat Pick 67
Spinking gives: Brett Deledio + Pick 7
Holz gives: Dylan Shiel + Stephen Coniglio + Brandon Ellis + Daniel Pearce.
Pickers gives: H. Bennell + A. Rance + C. Judd + H. Grundy
HP gives: J. Selwood + B. Harvey + J. Brown
Holz gives: Matt Priddis+Mitchell Grigg
Torp gives: Matthew Boyd.
Spinking gives: McMahon + Hurn + Nat 13 + Rook 25
Whatlez gives: Hannebery + Patton + Rook 34
Zip gives: J. Riewoldt + Nat 19 + Nat 33 + Rookie 32
LaHug gives: Krakouer + Betts + Cunnington + Nat 36 + Rookie 35
Hawka gives: Rookie 27 + 44
Pickers gives: Nat 34 + 36
Holz gives: Rookie 29 + Rookie 43
Pickers gives: Drew Petrie
Holz gives: Shane Mumford + Jared Polec + Todd Elton + Nat 44 + Rookie 15
HP gives: Brendan Goddard + Rookie 8
Hawka gives: 30
Pickers gives: Brad Hill
Ele gives: Patrick Dangerfield, Leroy Jetta, Nick O'Brien
Torp gives: Matthew Priddis, Matthew Wright, National Pick 15
Scrads gives: Tom Scully + Rookie 54
Pickers gives: Jed Lamb + Nat 25 + Rookie 24
Scrads gives: Rookie Pick 10 + Ibbotson
Whatlez gives: Rookie Pick 6 + Rookie Pick 25
Ele gives: Mitch Morton
Torp gives: Jasper Pittard, Rookie Pick 39, National Pick 54
Ele gives: Josh Caddy, Jasper Pittard, Nick Suban
Zip gives: Pick 4 NAT, Pick 36 NAT, Pick 47 NAT, Pick 35 PSD
Scrads gives: Nat Pick 25 + Rookie Pick 26
Whatlez gives: Rookie Pick 13
Zip gives: Nat 61
LaHug gives: Setana O'hailpin
Whatlez gives: Hurn + rookie 20 + 26
Pickers gives: Ballantyne + rookie 29,30,37,43,44
Spinking gives: Troy Chaplin + Pick 54 Rookie + Pick 66 Rookie
LaHug gives: Pick 21 Rookie + Pick 49 Rookie + Pick 63 Rookie
Spinking gives: B Sewell + Pick 33 Rookie Draft + Pick 34 Rookie Draft + Pick 49 Rookie Draft
Pickers gives: Pick 26 Rookie Draft + Pick 27 Rookie Draft + Pick 41 Rookie Draft + Pick 52 Rookie Draft
Scrads gives: rookie 40 + national 35,55
Pickers gives: rookie 23
Scrads gives: Gram + Rookie 25
Pickers gives: Foley + Rookie 33
Spinking gives: Jared Brennan
Whatlez gives: Pick 37 Rook + Pick 48 Rook
Scrads gives: Hibberd + Petrenko + Rohan + Rookie 13
Whatlez gives: Hartlett + Rookie 10 + Rookie 30 + Nat 56
Ele gives: Robin Nahas + Nat 36 + Rook 39
Whatlez gives: Rook 5
Spinking gives: Picks 39 Nat, 50 Nat , 53 Nat
HP gives: Pick 22 Rook
Nostra gives: Leigh Montagna, Ryan O'Keefe, Courtenay Dempsey, Rookie 42 + Rookie 56
Pickers gives: Jack Redden, Shannon Hurn, Rookie 25, Nat 35 + Nat 55
Ele gives: Brent Moloney
Nostra gives: National Pick 14
Hawka gives: Waite + Lower + rookie 58
Pickers gives: Westhoff + Curnow + rookie 34
Scrads gives: Pavlich + Colyer + Symes + Nat 56
Ele gives: Varcoe + Rookie 9 + Rookie 51 + Nat 47
Holz gives: Chris Knights + nat 16 + Campbell Heath
Ele gives: Brodie smith + rookie 35 + rookie 65
Holz gives: K.Cornes
Pickers gives: B.Harvey
Scrads gives: Daniel Gorringe + Liam Sumner
HP gives: Nat Pick 8 + Nat Pick 44
Scrads gives: Nat 8 + Nat 12
Hawka gives: Liam Shiels + Nat 17
Spinking gives: Pick 38 Rookie
JBs gives: Seb Ross (St Kilda
Holz gives: Brodie Smith and Rookie #8
JBs gives: Heath Shaw and Rookie #38
Pickers gives: Gibson + rookie 58
Scrads gives: Nat 44 + rookie 51
Pickers gives: Dempsey
HP gives: Rookie 15 + Nat 50
Ele gives: Nat 15 + Rookie 5
JBs gives: Nat 3
LaHug gives: Chis Dawes and NAT pick 61
HP gives: Xavier Ellis and NAT pick 39
Ele Gives: Taylor Adams, Tom Lynch, N27 and R2.
Zip Gives: Marc Murphy + Nick Suban
Trade period 2
Pickers gives: Wells + Talia
HP gives: Chapman + Nat 53 (James Ashby)
Ele gives: Matthew Wright
JBs gives: Danny Stanley
Zip gives: Jed Bews
Ele gives: Dean Towers
Nails gives: D.Martin + J.Hombsch + D.Myers
Pickers gives: L.Montagana + J.Brown + S.Dempster
Pickers gives: Brent Stanton + Dustin Martin + Rookie 15 + Jack Hombsch
Scrads gives: GAJ + Porplyzia + Travis Varcoe + Rookie 30
Ele gives: Troy Menzel
Jbs gives: Sam Gibson
Pickers gives: David Myers
Whatlez gives: Rookie Pick 19
Holz gives: Rookie 1 + Rookie 35 + Rookie 57
Scrads gives: Rookie 6 + Rookie 15 + Rookie 33
Lez gives: Aaron Sandilands + Rookie 39 + Rookie 43
Holz gets: Aaron Sandilands + Rookie 6
Scrads gets: Rookie 1 + Rookie 39 + Rookie 43 + Rookie 57
Lez gets: Rookie 15 + Rookie 33 + Rookie 35
JBs gives: James Frawley
Whatlez gives: Rookie Picks 29 and 33.
JBs Gives: L.Dalhaus + Rookie 17
Pickers Gives: J.Porplyzia + M.Shaw
JBs Gives: D.Mundy
Pickers Gives: J.Selwood
Pickers gives: Picks 20 and 42.
Whatlez gives: Pick 15.
Scrads trades: 24 + 39 + 58
Lez trades: 20 + 35
Nails trades: Luke Breust and Pedobear (Pederson)
Scrads trades: Rookie 1 + 23
Whatlez gives: 12, 16, 24
Pickers gives: Dahlhaus and 49.
LaHug gives: Jack Riewoldt
Pickers gives: David Mundy
Holz gives: Ahmeed Saad + Rookie 38
JB gives: Craig Moller
Scrads gives: James Bartel + Skipped National Pick 47
Pickers gives: Brendan Whitecross + Rookie Pick 30
Whatlez gives: Pick 58 and 62
Pickers gives: Pick 47
Holz gives: rookie 6
Ele gives: Clancee Pearce
Ele gives: Reece Conca, Oliver Wines, Nick Suban, Matt Jones
Whatlez gives: Cyril Rioli, r44, r47
Ele Gives: Toumpas + Vlastuin + Heath + Atkins + Mcintosh + R44 + R47
Spinking Gives: Fyfe + R52 + R63 + Logan
Nostra gives: Jack Redden, Taylor Walker, Mitch Clark + Rookie 14
Pickers gives: Gary Ablett, Jack Riewoldt, Travis Varcoe + Rookie 19
Scrads trades: Bellchambers + Tippett + Rookie 10 + Rookie 30
Nost trades: Ryder + Vince + Rookie 25 + Rookie 28 + Rookie 70
Ele gives: Rookie Pick 52
Whatlez gives: Matt Jones
Pickers gives: Rookie 12 + Rookie 17
Nails gives: M.Wallis + Rookie 55
Nostra gives: Sam Gilbert
Pickers gives: Paul Chapman
Trade Period 3
Pickers gives: J.Bartel
Nails gives: R.Griffen
Current Rookie Draft Order
1. Nails
2. Ziplock
3. JBs
4. Ziplock
5. JBs
6. Ele
7. Lahug
8. JBs
9. Scrads
10. Nostra
11. Whatlez
12. Nails
13. Whatlez
14. Pickers
15. Pickers
16. Pickers
17. Nails
18. Ziplock
19. Nostra
20. Scrads
21. Spinking
22. Whatlez
23. Nails
24. Pickers
25. Scrads
26. Spinking
27. Whatlez
28. Scrads
29. JBs
30. Nostra
31. JBs
32. Lahug
33. JBs
34. Hawka
35. Scrads
36. HP
37. Spinking
38. JBs
39. Whatlez
40. Pickers
41. Spinking
42. Whatlez
43. Scrads
44. Spinking
45. JBs
46. Ziplock
47. Spinking
(SKIPPED NAT PICK 47). Pickers
48. Spinking
(SKIPPED NAT PICK 48). Hawka
49. Whatlez
50. HP
51. Pickers
52. Whatlez
53. Torpedo
54. Lahug
55. Pickers
56. Pickers
57. Scrads
58. Pickers
59. JBs
(SKIPPED NAT PICK 59). Hawka
60. Ziplock
61. Pickers
62. Pickers
63. Ele
64. HP
(SKIPPED NAT PICK 64). LaHug
65. Holz
(SKIPPED NAT PICK 65). HP
66. Lahug
67. Torpedo
68. Pickers
69. Nails
(SKIPPED NAT PICK 69). Scrads
70. Scrads
Is there a limit on the amount of trades (or players you can trade) like last year ?
Quote from: Scrads on September 03, 2012, 12:56:33 AM
Is there a limit on the amount of trades (or players you can trade) like last year ?
I will set the limt at a max of 15 players moved.
Quote from: elephants on September 03, 2012, 12:55:54 AM
Cool, so does everyone get a vote on each trade?
I will put the questionably trades to vote. you can comment on peoples trades if you want. If lots of people comment a trade is bad it will go to vote. But there sholdnt be many of this or not at all. Only really one sided trades will go to vote.
For example Shiels for Selwood would go to vote. But it still might pass.
Okay no probs. Think I should be able to post a couple of trades up before school. :)
technically all my players are up for grabs, so if you're interested in anyone, give me a yell, some of them are going to be pretty pricey (grimes, hawkins, mcevoy, hanley specifically :P )
Quote from: Ziplock on September 03, 2012, 01:11:38 AM
technically all my players are up for grabs, so if you're interested in anyone, give me a yell, some of them are going to be pretty pricey (grimes, hawkins, mcevoy, hanley specifically :P )
All your players go pricey Zip ::) :P
Quote from: Ziplock on September 03, 2012, 01:11:38 AM
technically all my players are up for grabs, so if you're interested in anyone, give me a yell, some of them are going to be pretty pricey (grimes, hawkins, mcevoy, hanley specifically :P )
Hanley ;)
I'll get back to you tonight :)
are we open for business??
yep, I think people will probs be conservative for a while as they try to feel out the waters :P
ok i'll kick us off then
Hawka to confirm these:
Dino's Receive: Leuy, Barlow and Palmer
Basher's Receive: Birchall, Blair, Hmac
and
Dino's Receive: National Picks No.9 and No.38
Basher's Receive: Rookie Pick No.2
Quote from: Ricochet on September 03, 2012, 12:51:51 PM
ok i'll kick us off then
Hawka to confirm these:
Dino's Receive: Leuy, Barlow and Palmer
Basher's Receive: Birchall, Blair, Hmac
and
Dino's Receive: National Picks No.9 and No.38
Basher's Receive: Rookie Pick No.2
Confirmed :)
im out for draft picks and will trade hard early
and for reasoning first of all i have a lack of good middies and i gain 2 decent one as well as wanting a young ruckmen and in general some trade bait
for the second offer i wanted national picks and now have 2 in the first 9
oh guys just to note these are 2 different trades completed at different times :)
Eagles Receive: Michael Barlow
Dino's Receive: Nat Pick 1
Reason: Despite getting the spoon success isn't far away for the eagles and I have enough youth
Completed 2 seperate trades with whatlez (Savage Sons)
Trade #1
Macedonia Receive:
Gary Rohan + Sam Iles
Scotland Receive:
Rookie Pick #12 + National Draft Pick #55
Trade #2
Macedonia Receive:
Kurt Tippett + National Draft Pick #35
Scotland Receive:
Alex Fasolo + Sharrod Wellingham
whatlez to confirm these :)
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Also completed a trade with Holz
Macedonia Receive:
Tom Scully
Serbia Receive:
Brandon Ellis
Holz to confirm :)
Quote from: Ricochet on September 03, 2012, 12:51:51 PM
ok i'll kick us off then
Hawka to confirm these:
Dino's Receive: Leuy, Barlow and Palmer
Basher's Receive: Birchall, Blair, Hmac
and
Dino's Receive: National Picks No.9 and No.38
Basher's Receive: Rookie Pick No.2
Reason: we wanted Birchall
Quote from: Scrads on September 03, 2012, 03:14:13 PM
Macedonia Receive:
Tom Scully
Serbia Receive:
Brandon Ellis
Holz to confirm :)
I confirm, good to get a young backman, and get rid of one of my many mids.
Quote from: Holzman on September 03, 2012, 03:09:40 PM
Eagles Receive: Michael Barlow
Dino's Receive: Nat Pick 1
Reason: Despite getting the spoon success isn't far away for the eagles and I have enough youth
Confirmed
I want draft picks as i have an old squad
Eagles Receive: Goldstein + Harper + Polec
Son's Receive: Shuey + Nat Pick 15 + Nat Pick 30
Reason: Have been burnt by having no ruck for much of the year and too many mids. This way i drop a mid who i dont need and have the best ruck cover in the game. Harper is a forward i rate very highly and polec has potential but he is mainly there to get the deal done.
Dinos receive: Michael Johnson
Eagles Reciieve: Andrew Walker
need a good defender plain and simpe
Quote from: Hawka on September 03, 2012, 04:26:28 PM
Dinos receive: Michael Johnson
Eagles Reciieve: Andrew Walker
need a good defender plain and simpe
done and forward line complete. Cloke, Lecras, Walker, Clarke, Knights
if gibbs doesnt get dpp or adcock loses it im screwed.
Did the trade to get a forward obviously.
Quote from: Scrads on September 03, 2012, 03:14:13 PM
Completed 2 seperate trades with whatlez (Savage Sons)
Trade #1
Macedonia Receive:
Gary Rohan + Sam Iles
Scotland Receive:
Rookie Pick #12 + National Draft Pick #55
Trade #2
Macedonia Receive:
Kurt Tippett + National Draft Pick #35
Scotland Receive:
Alex Fasolo + Sharrod Wellingham
whatlez to confirm these :)
Trade one reason: I would like a rookie pick and a handy draft pick later on. And both players do not fit into my squad.
Trade two reason: I get two gun Collingwood youngsters. I like Fasolo :D
I confirm both and lock em in.
Quote from: Holzman on September 03, 2012, 03:28:24 PM
Eagles Receive: Goldstein + Harper + Polec
Son's Receive: Shuey + Nat Pick 15 + Nat Pick 30
Reason: Have been burnt by having no ruck for much of the year and too many mids. This way i drop a mid who i dont need and have the best ruck cover in the game. Harper is a forward i rate very highly and polec has potential but he is mainly there to get the deal done.
I accept. Getting good draft picks for works for me and I get a captain in return ;)
Who wants Boyd+Fisher? PM me with offers.
Just realised, that you get priorty pick in Rookie Draft? That's unfair.
Quote from: whatlez on September 03, 2012, 07:16:42 PM
Just realised, that you get priorty pick in Rookie Draft? That's unfair.
I will look into that rule. Did teams just get the Nat pick? If so I will drop it
Quote from: Holzman on September 03, 2012, 07:20:55 PM
Quote from: whatlez on September 03, 2012, 07:16:42 PM
Just realised, that you get priorty pick in Rookie Draft? That's unfair.
I will look into that rule. Did teams just get the Nat pick? If so I will drop it
What?
Quote from: whatlez on September 03, 2012, 07:21:46 PM
Quote from: Holzman on September 03, 2012, 07:20:55 PM
Quote from: whatlez on September 03, 2012, 07:16:42 PM
Just realised, that you get priorty pick in Rookie Draft? That's unfair.
I will look into that rule. Did teams just get the Nat pick? If so I will drop it
What?
When teams got less than 4 wins they got a priority pick at the end if the first round d of the national draft. I don't know if its the same for the rookie
Quote from: Holzman on September 03, 2012, 07:24:07 PM
Quote from: whatlez on September 03, 2012, 07:21:46 PM
Quote from: Holzman on September 03, 2012, 07:20:55 PM
Quote from: whatlez on September 03, 2012, 07:16:42 PM
Just realised, that you get priorty pick in Rookie Draft? That's unfair.
I will look into that rule. Did teams just get the Nat pick? If so I will drop it
What?
When teams got less than 4 wins they got a priority pick at the end if the first round d of the national draft. I don't know if its the same for the rookie
You're the boss. It's funny that you are the one getting this additional pick lol.
Trade with the Stallions:
The Sons receive:
Pick 11 of Rookie Draft, Pick 25-26 depending on this rule and Pick 26 of the NAT Draft
Stallions receive:
Elliott Kavangh, Anthony Miles and Pick 15.
Confirmed.
Will 5 seconds ever be broken? That is the mark to beat :P ;)
Quote from: whatlez on September 03, 2012, 07:25:36 PM
Quote from: Holzman on September 03, 2012, 07:24:07 PM
Quote from: whatlez on September 03, 2012, 07:21:46 PM
Quote from: Holzman on September 03, 2012, 07:20:55 PM
Quote from: whatlez on September 03, 2012, 07:16:42 PM
Just realised, that you get priorty pick in Rookie Draft? That's unfair.
I will look into that rule. Did teams just get the Nat pick? If so I will drop it
What?
When teams got less than 4 wins they got a priority pick at the end if the first round d of the national draft. I don't know if its the same for the rookie
You're the boss. It's funny that you are the one getting this additional pick lol.
Yes suss :)
I'm just following the worlds . Don't worry Im getting pick 14 next year
Quote from: Holzman on September 03, 2012, 07:34:27 PM
Quote from: whatlez on September 03, 2012, 07:25:36 PM
Quote from: Holzman on September 03, 2012, 07:24:07 PM
Quote from: whatlez on September 03, 2012, 07:21:46 PM
Quote from: Holzman on September 03, 2012, 07:20:55 PM
Quote from: whatlez on September 03, 2012, 07:16:42 PM
Just realised, that you get priorty pick in Rookie Draft? That's unfair.
I will look into that rule. Did teams just get the Nat pick? If so I will drop it
What?
When teams got less than 4 wins they got a priority pick at the end if the first round d of the national draft. I don't know if its the same for the rookie
You're the boss. It's funny that you are the one getting this additional pick lol.
Yes suss :)
I'm just following the worlds . Don't worry Im getting pick 14 next year
;) Trade me pick 15?
We're willing to listen to offers for any of our players but with a main focus on these boys
Josh Kennedy
Caddy
Hill
Tapscott
Symes
Suban
Webster
Darrou
R.Shaw
Banner
Colyer
O'Brien
Morton
McCarthy
Not much trading going on... I've been in half of the trades :P
Also need to edit my trade with Torp holz :). It's pick 25-26 of rookie draft depending on the priority rule not the nat draft.
Also ric, where's birch, brodie and lynchy? ;)
Quote from: whatlez on September 04, 2012, 08:11:00 AM
Also ric, where's birch, brodie and lynchy? ;)
Your offer better be bloody good mate haha
Somebody do something!!!!!!!!
Quote from: elephants on September 04, 2012, 10:46:25 AM
Somebody do something!!!!!!!!
problem is im waiting on where mailman is. Also spinking will probably be up and trading tonight.
Yes do something!
Expect big Ele later tonight ;)
What was the trade again Whatlez?
The Sons receive: Trent McKenzie
Trolls receive: Ed Curnow + Pick 55 NAT
Mailman to confirm.
Yeah I confirm
Thanks again everyone,
In particular Le, Whatlez and Holz :)
Goodbye friend :'(
Quote from: elephants on September 04, 2012, 10:46:25 AM
Somebody do something!!!!!!!!
There is a big trade window, there doesn't need to be 30 trades every day ;)
The Titans are chasing a number of additional picks in both the National and Pre - Season Drafts. Please make an offer for any of the below players:
G Johncock
T McIntyre
M Jamar
M Gawn
A McGrath
A Edwards
A Maric
C Cornes
All these players are on the table. Open to all offers but we're mainly looking to offload a few in return for a quality young player - either forward or mid.
Sean Dempster
Harry Taylor
Corey Enright
Josh Gibson
Daniel Wells
Jude Bolton
Lenny Hayes
Tendia Mzungu
Max Bailey
David Hille
Justin Koschitzke
Andrew McQualter
Travis Varcoe
Hayden Crozier
Matthew Lobbe
Quote from: Sid on September 04, 2012, 07:58:44 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 04, 2012, 10:46:25 AM
Somebody do something!!!!!!!!
There is a big trade window, there doesn't need to be 30 trades every day ;)
But let's be honest, its much better if it is :P
http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,65696.0.html
Page two.
Interested in rookie picks (first round) and defenders or a backup ruckman.
Also I want to know about the priority rookie draft pick??
Priority picks do not apply to rookie drafts.
Quote from: meow meow on September 04, 2012, 10:12:31 PM
Priority picks do not apply to rookie drafts.
ok removing it now. Thanks meow
The Titans receive: Billie Smedts + Pick 68 Rookie Draft
The Wolves receive: Pick 10 Rookie Draft
Steve Johnson, come at me. Who has him?
If anyone is interested in Mumford or Zach Clarke PM me, i have a really strong ruck line.
Swedish Metal trade bait
Jack Redden
Mitch Wallis
Adam Treloar
Harley Bennell
Jeremy Cameron
Stefan Martin
Will Minson
Luke Breust
Dustin Martin
Richard Tambling
First round picks in each draft are also available.
Full list can be found here:
http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,45094.msg599995.html#msg599995
^ I like the look of gambling ;D
And scrads has pav too... Lol
Quote from: Spinking on September 05, 2012, 01:35:58 AM
The Titans receive: Billie Smedts + Pick 68 Rookie Draft
The Wolves receive: Pick 10 Rookie Draft
Confirmed :)
Just letting people know James McDonald is up for trade but don't all flood my inbox at once ;)
Trade with the Wolves :)
The Trolls Recieve : Stevie J + Chris Judd + Hayden Ballantyne
The Wolves Recieve : Michael Hibberd + Tendai Mzungu+ Ben Reid + Liam Summer + NAT pick 5 + NAT pick 55
Needed some fwd's badly! Stevie J is still young enough to give me 2 quality seasons and strenghtns our chances at the premiership next year considerably. Ballantyne will be a very handy 3rd / 4th fwd to replace kositzke ::) Judd becomes our 3rd / 4th premium mid making a strong side for next year ;D
Quote from: Scrads on September 05, 2012, 12:34:05 PM
Just letting people know James McDonald is up for trade but don't all flood my inbox at once ;)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/146813/default.aspx
Don't think many will want JMac. ;D :P
Quote from: picker_man on September 05, 2012, 12:53:44 PM
Trade with the Wolves :)
The Trolls Recieve : Stevie J + Chris Judd + Hayden Ballantyne
The Wolves Recieve : Michael Hibberd + Tendai Mzungu+ Ben Reid + Liam Summer + NAT pick 5 + NAT pick 55
Needed some fwd's badly! Stevie J is still young enough to give me 2 quality seasons and strenghtns our chances at the premiership next year considerably. Ballantyne will be a very handy 3rd / 4th fwd to replace kositzke ::) Judd becomes our 3rd / 4th premium mid making a strong side for next year ;D
Confirmed.
The Wolves have completely abolished any issues with having 'old' players and not enough 'youth' with their trades so far. Our new look squad is rife with young players but still strong to keep us in contention.
Chris Judd was considered surplus to our needs as our plethora of gun mids will likely be joined by Andrew Carrazzo who is rumoured to be making the move to the midfield over the preseason.
More midfielders are up for grabs from the Wolves, if interested, enquire within :)
Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 05, 2012, 12:56:42 PM
Quote from: Scrads on September 05, 2012, 12:34:05 PM
Just letting people know James McDonald is up for trade but don't all flood my inbox at once ;)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/146813/default.aspx
Don't think many will want JMac. ;D :P
Haha mate, that was obviously the joke I was making ;)
Second trade completed 8) this time with the Metal.
Trolls Recieve : Rookie Pick 13
Metal Recieve : Corey Eright
Enright is 31 next yr is why......
Quote from: picker_man on September 05, 2012, 02:51:33 PM
Second trade completed 8) this time with the Metal.
Trolls Recieve : Rookie Pick 13
Metal Recieve : Corey Eright
Enright is 31 next yr is why......
Confirmed. We need a backline and Enright will fill a gap short term.
Quote from: meow meow on September 05, 2012, 03:01:08 PM
Quote from: picker_man on September 05, 2012, 02:51:33 PM
Second trade completed 8) this time with the Metal.
Trolls Recieve : Rookie Pick 13
Metal Recieve : Corey Eright
Enright is 31 next yr is why......
Confirmed. We need a backline and Enright will fill a gap short term.
and the metal get even scarier.
Trade between me and Pickers
i Give: Newman + Petrie
for
Picker gives: pick 20 + 48 + Hayden Crozier
reason: ive got rid of my oldies and bring in a youngster with potential and get 2 more draft picks!!
Quote from: Hawka on September 05, 2012, 04:05:46 PM
Trade between me and Pickers
i Give: Newman + Petrie
for
Picker gives: pick 20 + 48 + Hayden Crozier
reason: ive got rid of my oldies and bring in a youngster with potential and get 2 more draft picks!!
confirmed :)
two more solid scorers to help the cause, newman as back up defender and petrie solid addition in the fwd's
Quote from: Scrads on September 05, 2012, 12:34:05 PM
Just letting people know James McDonald is up for trade but don't all flood my inbox at once ;)
I'll give you Cyril ;) :P
Also I have pick 25 in NAT, not Torp. Can you please fix :)
Quote from: whatlez on September 05, 2012, 05:17:00 PM
Also I have pick 25 in NAT, not Torp. Can you please fix :)
spinking has pick 25 in the nat. you have pick 25 in the rookie
Quote from: Holzman on September 05, 2012, 05:31:23 PM
Quote from: whatlez on September 05, 2012, 05:17:00 PM
Also I have pick 25 in NAT, not Torp. Can you please fix :)
spinking has pick 25 in the nat. you have pick 25 in the rookie
Yes, sorry that was what I meant... :-X
EAGLES TRADE: TRENT COTCHIN
TROLLS TRADE: SCOTT PENDLEBURY
reason: I have wanted pendles from the start and i feel he is more consistent than cotchin, even though they will average the same. Im prepared to give up 2 years of youth for that consistency.
I would not have traded cotchin :P
Quote from: Holzman on September 05, 2012, 06:45:12 PM
EAGLES TRADE: TRENT COTCHIN
TROLLS TRADE: SCOTT PENDLEBURY
reason: I have wanted pendles from the start and i feel he is more consistent than cotchin, even though they will average the same. Im prepared to give up 2 years of youth for that consistency.
Confirmed ;D
All about the big scores with Cotchin so perfect for my team ;D
:o
The 10 year contract is gone. He should get sued.
Quote from: whatlez on September 05, 2012, 06:55:05 PM
:o
The 10 year contract is gone. He should get sued.
its like the NBA, now the trolls pick up the 10 year contract.
Quote from: whatlez on September 05, 2012, 06:55:05 PM
:o
The 10 year contract is gone. He should get sued.
Was just thinking that!? Looks like Holz and Cotch had a bit of a row, eh?
Quote from: elephants on September 05, 2012, 07:00:17 PM
Quote from: whatlez on September 05, 2012, 06:55:05 PM
:o
The 10 year contract is gone. He should get sued.
Was just thinking that!? Looks like Holz and Cotch had a bit of a row, eh?
But Pendles does have the track record, and doesn't get injured and plays most of time.
Quote from: Holzman on September 05, 2012, 06:59:22 PM
Quote from: whatlez on September 05, 2012, 06:55:05 PM
:o
The 10 year contract is gone. He should get sued.
its like the NBA, now the trolls pick up the 10 year contract.
Just gave him a year extension on his contract so will be Captain for a full 10 years for the Trolls ;D
Quote from: picker_man on September 05, 2012, 07:05:28 PM
Quote from: Holzman on September 05, 2012, 06:59:22 PM
Quote from: whatlez on September 05, 2012, 06:55:05 PM
:o
The 10 year contract is gone. He should get sued.
its like the NBA, now the trolls pick up the 10 year contract.
Just gave him a year extension on his contract so will be Captain for a full 10 years for the Trolls ;D
You trolling? :P
time to troll somemore ;)
after getting Cotchin :P all of offers of quality youth now will be considered in return for the following players
Stevie Johnson
Scott Thompson
Daniel Wells
Chris Judd
Jude Bolton
Drew Petrie
Nathan Bock
Harry Taylor
Sean Dempster
Lenny Hayes
Max Bailey
David Hille
all quality players :)
All quality on the block.
Tom Liberatore
Sharrod Wellingham
Alex Silvangi
Ricky Pettard
Paul Poupolo
Matthew Buntine
Johnathon Patton
Aaron Hall
Devon Smith
Jarrod Witts
Corey Gault
Fraser McInnes
Tom Curran
Simon Turnbridge
Even others like Duffield, Grima, Steven, Hannebury, Hartlett, Shuey and Jack are available.
Picks 21, 26 and 30 of NAT draft are also up for grabs.
So pretty much my whole team lol :P
Looking for:
Decent back-up ruckman
Quality back-man
Elite Mid
Ele and I are now looking for a premium midfielder and are willing to involve rookie picks, national picks and players
Current team is here: http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,44922.msg594146.html#msg594146
Conca, Rosa, JJK, Caddy, Nahas + all our youth are on the table
Sweden and Norway have completed a trade.
Norway receive: Jack Redden, Harley Bennell and pick #27 in the national draft.
Sweden receive: Steve Johnson, Scott Thompson (ade) and Lenny Hayes.
Our reasoning for doing this is that we want an absolute superstar forward. We have plenty of quality youth and can let a couple of them go to bring in some big guns. Lenny fills the hole in the midfield that has been left by Redden's departure.
Ok I think Meow is the favourite to win next year.
Should shower in tbh haha.
Quote from: meow meow on September 05, 2012, 08:28:30 PM
Sweden and Norway have completed a trade.
Norway receive: Jack Redden, Harley Bennell and pick #27 in the national draft.
Sweden receive: Steve Johnson, Scott Thompson (ade) and Lenny Hayes.
Our reasoning for doing this is that we want an absolute superstar forward. We have plenty of quality youth and can let a couple of them go to bring in some big guns. Lenny fills the hole in the midfield that has been left by Redden's departure.
I agree ;D why wouldnt i its redden and bennell. they are the quality youth im looking for now to go with cotch so was no a brainer this trade.
Another trade has been reached
Dino's give: Aaron Sandilands and pick 16 of the rookie draft
Savage songs give: pick 21 of Nat and Matt Buntine
Reason sandi was no longer required and i wanted another earlyish pick and i rate Buntine so highly
Quote from: Hawka on September 05, 2012, 09:54:46 PM
Another trade has been reached
Dino's give: Aaron Sandilands and pick 16 of the rookie draft
Savage songs give: pick 21 of Nat and Matt Buntine
Reason sandi was no longer required and i wanted another earlyish pick and i rate Buntine so highly
Confirmed and sons*
Quote from: meow meow on September 05, 2012, 08:28:30 PM
Sweden and Norway have completed a trade.
Norway receive: Jack Redden, Harley Bennell and pick #27 in the national draft.
Sweden receive: Steve Johnson, Scott Thompson (ade) and Lenny Hayes.
Our reasoning for doing this is that we want an absolute superstar forward. We have plenty of quality youth and can let a couple of them go to bring in some big guns. Lenny fills the hole in the midfield that has been left by Redden's departure.
Terrible trade for you meow.
Ladies and Gentlemen,
The moment you've all been waiting for...
The one, the only, Grant Birchall is on the chopping block!
Despite sleeping in and missing his first Bashers training session he is still a highly valued player. A defender (who will always be a defender) that has the ability to average a sub/injury affected 90 at just 24 years of age will not simply be given away.
We are looking for an elite midfielder and some in return.
PM myself with offers and you WILL get a guaranteed reply TONIGHT!!
Cheers!
Quote from: elephants on September 05, 2012, 10:15:49 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen,
The moment you've all been waiting for...
The one, the only, Grant Birchall is on the chopping block!
Despite sleeping in and missing his first Bashers training session he is still a highly valued player. A defender (who will always be a defender) that has the ability to average a sub/injury affected 90 at just 24 years of age will not simply be given away.
We are looking for an elite midfielder and some in return.
PM myself with offers and you WILL get a guaranteed reply TONIGHT!!
Cheers!
Il give you Dom Cassisi ;) oh and you want more Zac Dawson ;)
Quote from: Hawka on September 05, 2012, 10:18:01 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 05, 2012, 10:15:49 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen,
The moment you've all been waiting for...
The one, the only, Grant Birchall is on the chopping block!
Despite sleeping in and missing his first Bashers training session he is still a highly valued player. A defender (who will always be a defender) that has the ability to average a sub/injury affected 90 at just 24 years of age will not simply be given away.
We are looking for an elite midfielder and some in return.
PM myself with offers and you WILL get a guaranteed reply TONIGHT!!
Cheers!
Il give you Dom Cassisi ;) oh and you want more Zac Dawson ;)
Haha you can have Leuy and Barlow :P
Middies who arnt great but have currency
Issac Smith (Worth a little more)
David Ellard
Andrew Embely
Dom Cassisi
Nick Lower
and
Nick Dal santo (worth a little more)
in return all i want is a draft pick or a youngish defender or forward (dont care if there not to flash)
Dinos give: Nick Dal Santo
Metal give: Jeff Gartlett, John Butcher and rook pick 27
Reason: simple getting rid of old brining in new
I have better currency left :P
Chris Judd
Daniel Wells
Sean Dempster
Nathan Bock
Drew Petrie
Hayden Ballantyne
Chris Newman
picks 5, 13, 19 in rookie look to be going soon but all are still available for youth
Quote from: Hawka on September 05, 2012, 10:56:26 PM
Dinos give: Nick Dal Santo
Metal give: Jeff Gartlett, John Butcher and rook pick 27
I confirm this. I did the deal because you can never have too many good mids in DT.
At this rate, meow will win easy, but might be down on players.
Quote from: picker_man on September 05, 2012, 09:26:57 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 05, 2012, 08:28:30 PM
Sweden and Norway have completed a trade.
Norway receive: Jack Redden, Harley Bennell and pick #27 in the national draft.
Sweden receive: Steve Johnson, Scott Thompson (ade) and Lenny Hayes.
Our reasoning for doing this is that we want an absolute superstar forward. We have plenty of quality youth and can let a couple of them go to bring in some big guns. Lenny fills the hole in the midfield that has been left by Redden's departure.
I agree ;D why wouldnt i its redden and bennell. they are the quality youth im looking for now to go with cotch so was no a brainer this trade.
***Edit: it was actually pick #28 in the national draft. picker_man can either confirm it with pick #28 instead of #27, or cancel the trade.
Quote from: Holzman on September 05, 2012, 05:31:23 PM
Quote from: whatlez on September 05, 2012, 05:17:00 PM
Also I have pick 25 in NAT, not Torp. Can you please fix :)
spinking has pick 25 in the nat. you have pick 25 in the rookie
I have pick 26 in NAT sorry. Not 25. Still has Torp listed...
Quote from: elephants on September 05, 2012, 10:24:34 PM
Quote from: Hawka on September 05, 2012, 10:18:01 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 05, 2012, 10:15:49 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen,
The moment you've all been waiting for...
The one, the only, Grant Birchall is on the chopping block!
Despite sleeping in and missing his first Bashers training session he is still a highly valued player. A defender (who will always be a defender) that has the ability to average a sub/injury affected 90 at just 24 years of age will not simply be given away.
We are looking for an elite midfielder and some in return.
PM myself with offers and you WILL get a guaranteed reply TONIGHT!!
Cheers!
Il give you Dom Cassisi ;) oh and you want more Zac Dawson ;)
Haha you can have Leuy and Barlow :P
sounds like a fair trade, we'll keep Blair tho haha
Quote from: Ricochet on September 06, 2012, 12:26:53 AM
Quote from: elephants on September 05, 2012, 10:24:34 PM
Quote from: Hawka on September 05, 2012, 10:18:01 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 05, 2012, 10:15:49 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen,
The moment you've all been waiting for...
The one, the only, Grant Birchall is on the chopping block!
Despite sleeping in and missing his first Bashers training session he is still a highly valued player. A defender (who will always be a defender) that has the ability to average a sub/injury affected 90 at just 24 years of age will not simply be given away.
We are looking for an elite midfielder and some in return.
PM myself with offers and you WILL get a guaranteed reply TONIGHT!!
Cheers!
Il give you Dom Cassisi ;) oh and you want more Zac Dawson ;)
Haha you can have Leuy and Barlow :P
sounds like a fair trade, we'll keep Blair tho haha
Hahah keeeeeeeeen
Lol that scrads rates symes so high ;D
I accept the trade with pickers in advance lol.
I need to go to bed...
the highly sort after rookie picks have gone to the SONS
Trools recieve : Tom Liberatore + Devon Smith + pick 49 NAT draft
Sons recieve : pick 5, 13 and 19 in rookie draft
i wanted another young mid and fwd and these guys will be top players soon. and whatlez is obssesed with rookie picks so both happy ;D
A late night trade here between the Bashers and the Wolves...
Bashers Receive: Andrew Carrazzo + national pick 27 + national pick 41
Wolves receive: Josh J Kennedy + Brad Symes + Travis Colyer
Scrads to confirm :)
Quote from: elephants on September 06, 2012, 12:57:32 AM
A late night trade here between the Bashers and the Wolves...
Bashers Receive: Andrew Carrazzo + national pick 27 + national pick 41
Wolves receive: Josh J Kennedy + Brad Symes + Travis Colyer
Scrads to confirm :)
*Checks trade 3 times over*
Confirm ;)
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YOUTH
Whatlez, you have a ridiculous amount of first round draft picks..
Quote from: elephants on September 06, 2012, 01:19:19 AM
Whatlez, you have a ridiculous amount of first round draft picks..
too bad the only decent ones go in the first two picks :p
The Greek Titans are having a cleaning out sale to begin a badly needed rebuild.
The following players are on offer for a combination of high draft picks and high quality kids:
B Deledio, S Sidebottom, N Fyfe
The following players are available for quality draft picks, or developing youngsters:
N Riewoldt, H Scotland, B Moloney, B Sewell, N Foley, D Jolly, J Brennan, J Corey
The following players are available for later draft picks:
S Black, T Chaplin, S McMahon, G Johncock, J McKenzie, M Gawn, M Jamar, D Giansiracusa, A McGrath, A Edwards, C Cornes
The following will be delisted so feel free to make any offer:
T McIntyre, S Blee, B AhChee, T Logan, A Maric, M Mascoulis
The titans in a trade mode :o
I have the rookie draft power *evil face*
Mawaahahaha
i wouldnt mind some decent nat draft picks in return for lobbe, wells, petrie, gibson or varcoe :)
might also let zorko go pm me offers ;)
This isn't the best spot for it... but
I have 3 retirees and want to make 4-5 delistings. Therefore losing 8 players, but only gaining 5 in return.
What I might do is keep all the retiress on my list and just waste them and to not delist anyone. I think this new rules Holz hasn't really shared is stupid, because if you have no players retiring then you will be fine, you will gain 5 extra players to your list. But because I have 3 or more, I will be 3 down on my list. So I might as well keep Hargrave and Gilbee on my list. Is there a way for the amount of retired players you have, you get a pick at the end of the rookie draft. Like pick 71, 72 etc?
Lez you get 10 added to your list. So you can delist retire 5. I
I feel if this wasn't the rule I would keep doing 4 for 2 deals than rack up the rookie picks
Ahh yeah you add 10. But what if you had 10 players to get delisted or retire? Don't think it would happen, but what is the solution?
wait, is there a max to how many players we can delist or something?
Yeah I'm not 100% on this bit either...
Ok the rule is bu i might budge on it.
You have 35 on your list at the moment. Im increasing it to 40. You get 5 nat draft picks and 5 rookie picks. If you skip the nat pick you get an equivalent rookie pick.
So if you delist or retire more than 5 people or do stuff like give 4 people for 2 than plan was you would need to trade for picks. So some guys dont want to delist people or they did 2 for 4 trades, than they will have left over picks and they can trade for them.
My concern is that I can keep players on my list who are retired.
Quote from: whatlez on September 06, 2012, 08:04:51 PM
My concern is that I can keep players on my list who are retired.
why would you want to do that. Most people will have less than 5 retiring and delisted so you can trade picks. I cant see 5 going off my list.
...
just keep players you were going to delist lez?
they might play, and be worth while...
New rule you can keep picking till you reeach the cap. This is only in the rookie draft though. You still only get your allocated 5 nat picks and you can skip if you want. But you keep picking in the rookie till you hit 40.
Quote from: Holzman on September 06, 2012, 08:49:59 PM
New rule you can keep picking till you reeach the cap. This is only in the rookie draft though. You still only get your allocated 5 nat picks and you can skip if you want. But you keep picking in the rookie till you hit 40.
awesome cause im one short :)
I have hargrave and gilbee and both ave a chance at GWS. Instead of delisted I might as well keep them on my list.,,
Trolls receive: Luke Tapscott + Rookie Pick #24
Bashers receive: Matthew Lobbe + Travis Varcoe
Reason: we wanted more ruck reserve and we rate Varcoe. Pickers needed young backmen and the rookie pick tops her off :)
Pickers to confirm :)
Quote from: elephants on September 07, 2012, 12:49:14 AM
Trolls receive: Luke Tapscott + Rookie Pick #24
Bashers receive: Matthew Lobbe + Travis Varcoe
Reason: we wanted more ruck reserve and we rate Varcoe. Pickers needed young backmen and the rookie pick tops her off :)
Pickers to confirm :)
Confirmed :)
i need young backs as ele said and can still get another good young one with the rookie pick aswell, also have a prietty decent fwd line atm so varcoe will be better off with the bashers :)
Quote from: whatlez on September 06, 2012, 09:53:36 PM
I have hargrave and gilbee and both ave a chance at GWS. Instead of delisted I might as well keep them on my list.,,
You will know this before the rookie draft happens so you can wait until then to see of they will play with GWS.
The awkward thing is tapscott will be a forward next year haha
Hey anyone I am short in list numbers... :X
Does anyone wants to trade me there late round picks of the rookie draft? :)
Quote from: whatlez on September 07, 2012, 03:52:38 PM
Hey anyone I am short in list numbers... :X
Does anyone wants to trade me there late round picks of the rookie draft? :)
you dont need to do that anymore with the new rule you get unlimited rookie draft picks.
I think i might make a new rule, your not allowed to trade lez anymore rookie picks. We might as well just turn the rookie draft into.
Lez's Team.
Unlimited rookie draft picks? Tell me more ???
And you can trade them to me. That's cheating if you make that rule.
And again. I HAVE PICK 26 OF THE NAT. TORP TRADED IT TO ME >:(
Quote from: whatlez on September 07, 2012, 04:01:44 PM
Unlimited rookie draft picks? Tell me more ???
And you can trade them to me. That's cheating if you make that rule.
basically if you dont hit your cap, you can keep picking in the rookie. I really dont like the rule and there were very strong reasons not to but people seem to want it.
Well I do not like this. I might have priority, but that means everyone else will get heaps of picks too...
So cap of 40 players, keep picking until you hit the cap? Any specific order?
Quote from: whatlez on September 07, 2012, 04:27:07 PM
Well I do not like this. I might have priority, but that means everyone else will get heaps of picks too...
So cap of 40 players, keep picking until you hit the cap? Any specific order?
I will keep it in discussions. I thought you were the main person for the unlimmited picks. Will talk to the others who wanted it. As i said idont want it as people will just get rid of all there nat and fringe picks and just pick afl players. The rule may change back to how i wanted it.
That's what I am saying. This will allow me to get rid of all my spuds and no names. I think we need to find a way, for everyone to have the same amount, but not to throw away players. But saying that at pick 70+ in Rookie. There won't be much left. So yeah this is alright... I spose...
I've pushed for the unlimited rookie draft trades idea, mainly because I will require it at the Titans. I'll need to delist around 8 or 9 players at season's end and under the old rules I would have ended up with 3 or 4 less players than everyone else.
I recommended to Holz that the rule be changed to reflect the AFL system where you can delist anyone you dont want and take additional picks at the end of the draft to get yourself back to the required number.
While it sounds like this could be exploited, I highly doubt it would be. The additional picks will not generally result in high quality players, and not many teams will want to go delisting more than 5 per year. It would be like an AFL team delisting half it's team to get extra picks in the draft.
Just my thoughts anyway
Quote from: Spinking on September 07, 2012, 04:48:05 PM
I've pushed for the unlimited rookie draft trades idea, mainly because I will require it at the Titans. I'll need to delist around 8 or 9 players at season's end and under the old rules I would have ended up with 3 or 4 less players than everyone else.
I recommended to Holz that the rule be changed to reflect the AFL system where you can delist anyone you dont want and take additional picks at the end of the draft to get yourself back to the required number.
While it sounds like this could be exploited, I highly doubt it would be. The additional picks will not generally result in high quality players, and not many teams will want to go delisting more than 5 per year. It would be like an AFL team delisting half it's team to get extra picks in the draft.
Just my thoughts anyway
good point spinking it must be noted that while the rokoie draft will have very good players early. Those getting the additional picks will be 60-70+ and the draft is not this deep. I would suggest people who picked rookie who are not playing they might want to rethink delisting them as they coudl take time to develop.
So can we get a detailed rule or put into into a discussion thread?
who has early national draft picks they are not to interested in, or young yet to develope players. I still got some quality older players willing to trade for them - Judd, Wells, Petrie, Bock, Dempster, Newman........ come on pplz :)
Im on the lockout for top 10 picks. preapred to pay for them. PM me if your willing to let them go.
Quote from: Holzman on September 07, 2012, 07:56:47 PM
Im on the lockout for top 10 picks. preapred to pay for them. PM me if your willing to let them go.
just noticed your a moderator Holz nice work m8 congrats! but no pm me 1st ;) haha.
After a solid win today R.Shaw (94) and M.Morton (75) are on the Bashers trade table. Expecting a million offers so get in quick :P
Quote from: Ricochet on September 08, 2012, 07:04:43 PM
After a solid win today R.Shaw (94) and M.Morton (75) are on the Bashers trade table. Expecting a million offers so get in quick :P
How did Brodie go? :P
Quote from: whatlez on September 08, 2012, 07:17:34 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 08, 2012, 07:04:43 PM
After a solid win today R.Shaw (94) and M.Morton (75) are on the Bashers trade table. Expecting a million offers so get in quick :P
How did Brodie go? :P
a nice 20 possie game... haha 0 tackles doesnt help his DT scoring
Quote from: Ricochet on September 08, 2012, 07:28:55 PM
Quote from: whatlez on September 08, 2012, 07:17:34 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 08, 2012, 07:04:43 PM
After a solid win today R.Shaw (94) and M.Morton (75) are on the Bashers trade table. Expecting a million offers so get in quick :P
How did Brodie go? :P
a nice 20 possie game... haha 0 tackles doesnt help his DT scoring
I think he is on the table now ;D
Quote from: whatlez on September 08, 2012, 07:30:25 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 08, 2012, 07:28:55 PM
Quote from: whatlez on September 08, 2012, 07:17:34 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 08, 2012, 07:04:43 PM
After a solid win today R.Shaw (94) and M.Morton (75) are on the Bashers trade table. Expecting a million offers so get in quick :P
How did Brodie go? :P
a nice 20 possie game... haha 0 tackles doesnt help his DT scoring
I think he is on the table now ;D
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^^^ LOLOL.
I'm still opening for trades.
I do not want rookie picks anymore, but I am looking for a decent forward or a strong mid.
http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,65696.0.html
A three way trade between the Trolls, Titans and Bison. Just need Spinking and pickers to confirm here.
Bison (LH) get: Scotland (Titans), Taylor (trolls), Pick 10 (Titans), Pick 28 (Trolls)
Titans (Spink) get: D. Smith (Trolls), Pick 7 (Bison), Pick 50 (Bison)
Trolls (pickers) get: Stanton (Bison), Pick 67 (Titans)
I'm doing this because my backline let me down last season and I'm willing to get rid on Stanton (my only real star) in order to fix it! I think Spink wants youth and pickers really wanted Stanton.
Confirm the trade. think we all get what we want here, Lahug gets his backmen + some good youth with the draft picks, spink gets his youth he really wanted and im trying to build one of the most potent midfields in the comp - cothcin, redden, stanton is taking me along way there ;D
Quote from: picker_man on September 10, 2012, 07:21:21 PM
and im trying to build one of the most potent midfields in the comp - cothcin, redden, stanton is taking me along way there ;D
It's a hell of a lot scarier when you see it written down like that.....
Confirmed. Cheers lads.
lh is getting the best end of that :P
WHY WONT ANYONE TRADE WITH ME?!?!?!
Quote from: LaHug on September 10, 2012, 07:26:16 PM
Quote from: picker_man on September 10, 2012, 07:21:21 PM
and im trying to build one of the most potent midfields in the comp - cothcin, redden, stanton is taking me along way there ;D
It's a hell of a lot scarier when you see it written down like that.....
mwwaaahhahahaa *evil face* lol ;D
redden for consistantcy and stants and cotch for there high ceiling's watch out meow meow ;)
Quote from: Ziplock on September 10, 2012, 07:27:20 PM
lh is getting the best end of that :P
WHY WONT ANYONE TRADE WITH ME?!?!?!
I'll give you Taylor for Grimes ;)
Wow LaHug killed that. He traded his biggest spud and got Taylor and Scotland and high pick...
Quote from: whatlez on September 10, 2012, 07:49:18 PM
Wow LaHug killed that. He traded his biggest spud and got Taylor and Scotland and high pick...
My biggest spud also averaged much more than anyone else on my team......... Oh dear.....
Quote from: LaHug on September 10, 2012, 07:56:14 PM
Quote from: whatlez on September 10, 2012, 07:49:18 PM
Wow LaHug killed that. He traded his biggest spud and got Taylor and Scotland and high pick...
My biggest spud also averaged much more than anyone else on my team......... Oh dear.....
yeah how many players you got ave more lez :P remember stants is my 3rd mid ;) ;D
taylor + smith + pick 28 for
a gun (imo) + pick 67 im very happy :)
You're only saying Stanton is a gun mid cause you got him ::)
And LH it's quantity not quality :P
Quote from: whatlez on September 10, 2012, 08:02:46 PM
You're only saying Stanton is a gun mid cause you got him ::)
And LH it's quantity not quality :P
Also, I didn't get a high pick... I downgraded from pick 7 to pick 10. If I'd kept pick 7 and still made that trade, then I'd be laughing ;)
Who wants.... Aaron Hall, Alex Silvangi and Ricky Petterd?
Combo trade??
Quote from: whatlez on September 10, 2012, 08:06:16 PM
Who wants.... Aaron Hall and Ricky Petterd?
Combo trade??
I'll give you a lolly pop and a virtual hug?
Quote from: whatlez on September 10, 2012, 08:06:16 PM
Who wants.... Aaron Hall, Alex Silvangi and Ricky Petterd?
Combo trade??
I added extra to sweeten the deal ;)
Quote from: whatlez on September 10, 2012, 08:08:00 PM
Quote from: whatlez on September 10, 2012, 08:06:16 PM
Who wants.... Aaron Hall, Alex Silvangi and Ricky Petterd?
Combo trade??
I added extra to sweeten the deal ;)
TWO lollipops!
Quote from: whatlez on September 10, 2012, 08:02:46 PM
You're only saying Stanton is a gun mid cause you got him ::)
And LH it's quantity not quality :P
nah sorry must be talking bout the wrong guy hmmm coulda sworn stants has the 9th highest ave in dt this yr and younger then 3 above him. but cause you dont like him he's a spud ::) stats dont lie......
i rather quality players starting in my 15, cause quantity doesnt help if there sitting on the bench unless your going for the reserves premiership lez :P
Quote from: picker_man on September 10, 2012, 08:09:27 PM
Quote from: whatlez on September 10, 2012, 08:02:46 PM
You're only saying Stanton is a gun mid cause you got him ::)
And LH it's quantity not quality :P
nah sorry must be talking bout the wrong guy hmmm coulda sworn stants has the 9th highest ave in dt this yr and younger then 3 above him. but cause you dont like him he's a spud ::) stats dont lie......
i rather quality players starting in my 15, cause quantity doesnt help if there sitting on the bench unless your going for the reserves premiership lez :P
I meant he doesn't play all games... ::)
Quote from: whatlez on September 10, 2012, 08:14:38 PM
Quote from: picker_man on September 10, 2012, 08:09:27 PM
Quote from: whatlez on September 10, 2012, 08:02:46 PM
You're only saying Stanton is a gun mid cause you got him ::)
And LH it's quantity not quality :P
nah sorry must be talking bout the wrong guy hmmm coulda sworn stants has the 9th highest ave in dt this yr and younger then 3 above him. but cause you dont like him he's a spud ::) stats dont lie......
i rather quality players starting in my 15, cause quantity doesnt help if there sitting on the bench unless your going for the reserves premiership lez :P
I meant he doesn't play all games... ::)
thats why im bout to get some backup mids ;)
Quote from: LaHug on September 10, 2012, 07:56:14 PM
Quote from: whatlez on September 10, 2012, 07:49:18 PM
Wow LaHug killed that. He traded his biggest spud and got Taylor and Scotland and high pick...
My biggest spud also averaged much more than anyone else on my team......... Oh dear.....
stanton is still a good pick, dropped of when essendon did, almost all there team besides watson dropped off massively. I would love stants in my team.
Nice mid pickers but i think i still have it
Pendles, Barlow (110 next year), Mclean, Priddis, D.Swallow, Coniglio, OMeara, Shiel the hard part is deciding who to play.
Was that the first trade in the last few days? Given you some updating on the front page to do to keep you busy, Holz ;)
I'll try to make some more trades soon. Anyone want to give me Dane Swan or GAJ?
Quote from: Holzman on September 10, 2012, 08:24:20 PM
Quote from: LaHug on September 10, 2012, 07:56:14 PM
Quote from: whatlez on September 10, 2012, 07:49:18 PM
Wow LaHug killed that. He traded his biggest spud and got Taylor and Scotland and high pick...
My biggest spud also averaged much more than anyone else on my team......... Oh dear.....
stanton is still a good pick, dropped of when essendon did, almost all there team besides watson dropped off massively. I would love stants in my team.
Nice mid pickers but i think i still have it
Pendles, Barlow (110 next year), Mclean, Priddis, D.Swallow, Coniglio, OMeara, Shiel the hard part is deciding who to play.
have no idea what lez was on about im lovin having stants in my team :) think most coaches would.
yeah even though there young that does beat mine atm :( i shall be trading a bit more to beat that now then ;) haha
Stanton won't average 100 next year and Jack and Shuey will close him :P
Quote from: whatlez on September 10, 2012, 09:31:44 PM
Stanton won't average 100 next year and Jack and Shuey will close him :P
really wont he ??? shower i beta trade him out haha :P
some youth are on the table Libba + Morabito package deal ;)
Pettard, Hall and Silvangi for some peanuts and a page of chips please :P
Nah, I'll take a half decent forward for them :), although Hall and Pettard have good potential and Silvangi could be servicable :P
Quote from: Holzman on September 10, 2012, 08:24:20 PM
Quote from: LaHug on September 10, 2012, 07:56:14 PM
Quote from: whatlez on September 10, 2012, 07:49:18 PM
Wow LaHug killed that. He traded his biggest spud and got Taylor and Scotland and high pick...
My biggest spud also averaged much more than anyone else on my team......... Oh dear.....
stanton is still a good pick, dropped of when essendon did, almost all there team besides watson dropped off massively. I would love stants in my team.
Nice mid pickers but i think i still have it
Pendles, Barlow (110 next year), Mclean, Priddis, D.Swallow, Coniglio, OMeara, Shiel the hard part is deciding who to play.
Easily fixed by giving me Shiel ;)
another trade between the trolls and titans 8)
Trolls recieve - Nathan Foley + Rookie pick 68
Titans recieve - Tom Liberatore + Jed Lamb
i wanted foley to booster my midfield think he will be in a improving team next yr and my team will benefit from him more over next 2-3 years then holding onto libba
Quote from: picker_man on September 10, 2012, 09:59:21 PM
another trade between the trolls and titans 8)
Trolls recieve - Nathan Foley + Rookie pick 68
Titans recieve - Tom Liberatore + Jed Lamb
i wanted foley to booster my midfield think he will be in a improving team next yr and my team will benefit from him more over next 2-3 years then holding onto libba
Confirmed. Cheers Pickers.
i have pick #23 in rookie draft of ele holz ;)
My rookie picks are on the table now 8)
All, but 5 and 6. :)
Some ripping talent left, anyone keen?
Haha, what would PB say if he knew Foley was traded from the Titans ? :P
He would be devastated haha :P
Furious.. don't wanna be around when he returns next year :P
Offering Liam Jones for some combination of Swan, Ablett and Cotchin. The three coaches that have these guys can talk amongst themselves to get it done!
Quote from: elephants on September 10, 2012, 11:40:20 PM
Furious.. don't wanna be around when he returns next year :P
he can still be a coach of foley no worries..... as my junior assistant lol ;D
Quote from: LaHug on September 10, 2012, 11:41:38 PM
Offering Liam Jones for some combination of Swan, Ablett and Cotchin. The three coaches that have these guys can talk amongst themselves to get it done!
I think you shoud get all 3 for Jones :o
Quote from: LaHug on September 10, 2012, 11:41:38 PM
Offering Liam Jones for some combination of Swan, Ablett and Cotchin. The three coaches that have these guys can talk amongst themselves to get it done!
Mate, Jones isn't worth all 3.
I will give you Ablett only.
Quote from: whatlez on September 10, 2012, 11:49:01 PM
Quote from: LaHug on September 10, 2012, 11:41:38 PM
Offering Liam Jones for some combination of Swan, Ablett and Cotchin. The three coaches that have these guys can talk amongst themselves to get it done!
I think you shoud get all 3 for Jones :o
He's the best key forward at the Bulldogs (an up and coming side) and soon to be the best forward in the comp!
Quote from: Scrads on September 11, 2012, 12:22:26 AM
Quote from: LaHug on September 10, 2012, 11:41:38 PM
Offering Liam Jones for some combination of Swan, Ablett and Cotchin. The three coaches that have these guys can talk amongst themselves to get it done!
Mate, Jones isn't worth all 3.
I will give you Ablett only.
hold up what if he wants cotchin, redden or stants back instead!
Quote from: Scrads on September 11, 2012, 12:22:26 AM
Quote from: LaHug on September 10, 2012, 11:41:38 PM
Offering Liam Jones for some combination of Swan, Ablett and Cotchin. The three coaches that have these guys can talk amongst themselves to get it done!
Mate, Jones isn't worth all 3.
I will give you Ablett only.
I agree to this trade.
It's on this thread, he said it and I agreed. That makes it a done deal, yeah?
Trolls get: C Cornes + G Johncock + M Jamar + A McGrath + B Maloney
Titans get: Tapscott + Morabito + Pick 33 Rookie Draft
The clean out continues. Titans get 2 good kids and a reasonable pick. Trolls get older, solid bench cover.
Quote from: Spinking on September 11, 2012, 12:56:21 AM
Trolls get: C Cornes + G Johncock + M Jamar + A McGrath + B Maloney
Titans get: Tapscott + Morabito + Pick 33 Rookie Draft
The clean out continues. Titans get 2 good kids and a reasonable pick. Trolls get older, solid bench cover.
cheers spink i agree :) need bench cover badly this does that for next 2yrs or so.
sorry for all the work holz will be last trade unless something big comes along ;)
Quote from: picker_man on September 11, 2012, 12:58:50 AM
unless something big comes along ;)
Well, I've just given away L. Jones for Ablett but maybe I can offer you C. Jones for Cotchin?
Great job on the Ablett front LH. Our team will dominate now :D
Quote from: LaHug on September 11, 2012, 01:03:35 AM
Quote from: picker_man on September 11, 2012, 12:58:50 AM
unless something big comes along ;)
Well, I've just given away L. Jones for Ablett but maybe I can offer you C. Jones for Cotchin?
damn i had him pencilled in my forward line already! i give up have em all i got no chance without L.Jones down there :'(
Quote from: picker_man on September 11, 2012, 01:11:21 AM
Quote from: LaHug on September 11, 2012, 01:03:35 AM
Quote from: picker_man on September 11, 2012, 12:58:50 AM
unless something big comes along ;)
Well, I've just given away L. Jones for Ablett but maybe I can offer you C. Jones for Cotchin?
damn i had him pencilled in my forward line already! i give up have em all i got no chance without L.Jones down there :'(
Does that translate to "have Cotchin for C. Jones"?
If so, I'll take it!
YAY Scotland, Ablett and now Cotchin all in the same day. Great day of trading for the Bison :D
Quote from: picker_man on September 11, 2012, 12:58:50 AM
Quote from: Spinking on September 11, 2012, 12:56:21 AM
Trolls get: C Cornes + G Johncock + M Jamar + A McGrath + B Maloney
Titans get: Tapscott + Morabito + Pick 33 Rookie Draft
The clean out continues. Titans get 2 good kids and a reasonable pick. Trolls get older, solid bench cover.
cheers spink i agree :) need bench cover badly this does that for next 2yrs or so.
sorry for all the work holz will be last trade unless something big comes along ;)
the more activity in the euro the better. Very happy with the 2 new coaches.
Hahahaha its too late for such shenanigans!!
Don't know why you are so happy LH I clearly won our trade ;)
The Swedish Metal trade pick #13 in the national draft to Greece for Nick Riewoldt.
We can sit the draft out this year due to having young Jeremy Cameron coming through, and we needed another good forward to carry the load for a year or two while Cameron develops more.
Quote from: meow meow on September 11, 2012, 03:05:07 AM
The Swedish Metal trade pick #13 in the national draft to Greece for Nick Riewoldt.
We can sit the draft out this year due to having young Jeremy Cameron coming through, and we needed another good forward to carry the load for a year or two while Cameron develops more.
Confirmed. After picks and youth. Roo didn't fit in with our long term plans
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Hawthorn superstar Sam Mitchell is available for a national draft pick. Lowest pick wins.
Spink is tanking??
Quote from: whatlez on September 11, 2012, 08:13:07 AM
Spink is tanking??
Not sure if that is a serious question, but I most certainly am not. I had a very stale list, which was commented on by a number of people. It was nearly impossible to draw out a trade in the first few days as most folks I spoke to said my list was too old.
I'll no doubt be less competitive this season, but I've managed to hold onto my three gun players, and have only added blokes I believe are capable of scoring tons and who are young and developing.
Happy to provide more explanation if required.
Quote from: meow meow on September 11, 2012, 04:01:08 AM
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Hawthorn superstar Sam Mitchell is available for a national draft pick. Lowest pick wins.
I will start the ball rolling...
Pick 35 :P
pick 33
pick 27
Rookie pick 12.
Oh yeah btw Spink, it was a joke haha ::) :P
Fun fact:
Holzman is the creator of Euros, although he only has 11.91% of the board. Elephants has a staggering 13.17% haha and whatlez a mear 6.67%.
Elephant you need to find yourself a new hobby sir! lol :P
Quote from: whatlez on September 11, 2012, 04:58:00 PM
Rookie pick 12.
pretty sure he said national picks mate.
national 19
You know there is such thing as sendin him a pm
Sweden trades Sam Mitchell and national draft pick #56 to Belarus for national draft picks #10 and #28
Reason: Got a pretty old team and want to bring in some youth. Can afford to lose Mitchell due to having a billion premium mids.
Quote from: meow meow on September 11, 2012, 09:38:06 PM
Sweden trades Sam Mitchell and national draft pick #56 to Belarus for national draft picks #10 and #28
Reason: Got a pretty old team and want to bring in some youth. Can afford to lose Mitchell due to having a billion premium mids.
Accepted. Reason: want to win soon and need a captain option to replace Stanton. Still hunting bigger fish though... ;)
Quote from: whatlez on September 11, 2012, 08:11:12 PM
Fun fact:
Holzman is the creator of Euros, although he only has 11.91% of the board. Elephants has a staggering 13.17% haha and whatlez a mear 6.67%.
Elephant you need to find yourself a new hobby sir! lol :P
I am Da greatest
Okay I have come out and said it.
Nathan Grima and Paul Duffield are on the table. Looking for a prem mid or decent forward (youngish)
PM me if you are keen on either :D
Also we could worj out a combo package with Aaron Hall, Ricky Petterd and Alex Silvasngi ;)
Add most of my rookie picks are up for sale :)
Oh my god... Duff?? Really..?
You may think you are dreaming, but it is real. Damn real! :o
Quote from: whatlez on September 11, 2012, 11:27:32 PM
You may think you are dreaming, but it is real. Damn real! :o
Mentalllll!!!
Looking for a good forward. Am willing to talk deals. Let me know what's on offer.
Folks. I have National Draft Picks 7 and 12 I'd like to trade for 1 or 2 quality kids who are already playing. Can throw in other picks or experienced players to sweeten the deal.
Me too LaHug >:(
Grima/Duffman/Sandi for a package to get a great forward and maybe a draft pick ;)
Quote from: LaHug on September 12, 2012, 05:38:25 PM
Looking for a good great forward. Am willing to talk deals. Let me know what's on offer.
Jpod is still on the table :P
Preferably under the age of 40 ;)
Anyone want these players:?
Grima
Duffield
Sandilands
Hall
Silvangi
Pettard.
Probs have more, but these are ones to go.
zorko or ballantyne or petrie could be fwds im willing to give up. obviously the cost will vary ;)
Quote from: picker_man on September 12, 2012, 07:19:33 PM
zorko or ballantyne or petrie could be fwds im willing to give up. obviously the cost will vary ;)
Lol didn't even know you had Balla or Petrie? Didn't Holz have Petrie as well as Hawka?? haha
Quote from: whatlez on September 12, 2012, 07:58:55 PM
Quote from: picker_man on September 12, 2012, 07:19:33 PM
zorko or ballantyne or petrie could be fwds im willing to give up. obviously the cost will vary ;)
Lol didn't even know you had Balla or Petrie? Didn't Holz have Petrie as well as Hawka?? haha
yeah got petrie of hawka a while back, got balla of scrads i think.
Not sure why no one wants GRIMA!! Or SANDI!! >:(
Quote from: whatlez on September 12, 2012, 07:58:55 PM
Quote from: picker_man on September 12, 2012, 07:19:33 PM
zorko or ballantyne or petrie could be fwds im willing to give up. obviously the cost will vary ;)
Lol didn't even know you had Balla or Petrie? Didn't Holz have Petrie as well as Hawka?? haha
i was going to trade him in but i got walker instead.
Holz!!
I have pick 26 of national draft. Please update front :)
My whole team, and picks are all available, for the right price. We have some extremely young and promising youngsters, as well as young and beastial already (Grimes).
Def: J. Grimes, P. Hanley, J Trengove, T. Armstrong (Jacobs, Connors, Frost, Toy, Bews, Laird)
Mids: M. Murphy, J. Ziebell, Jack Trengove, A. Gaff (Haynes, Bewick, K Stevens, D Butcher)
Rucks: B. Mcevoy (J Roughead, Stephensen, Dowdell)
Fwd: A. Goodes, J. Riewoldt, Christensen, Hawkins (Vespremi, Grant, Gumbleton, Dell'Olio, Folau, Dick)
Utility: Ward, Bastinac
National Draft: 4, 19, 33, 47, 61
Rookie Draft: 4, 18, 32, 36, 60
Your move people.
I am very interested in Hanley ;). But I doubt I'll buy :P
Quote from: whatlez on September 12, 2012, 11:23:54 PM
I am very interested in Hanley ;). But I doubt I'll buy :P
hahah thought you said he was heading home in 2 years.... so why ::)
make an offer then :P
lol, why would hanley move home?
Quote from: Ziplock on September 12, 2012, 11:35:53 PM
make an offer then :P
lol, why would hanley move home?
i have no idea but thats what lez thinks.... or thought lol
Shhh... Yeah earlier this year he was talking about doing a marty Clarke
Quote from: whatlez on September 12, 2012, 11:40:22 PM
Shhh... Yeah earlier this year he was talking about doing a marty Clarke
hahah i wanna know for sure >:(, as reckon i was the only one out of anyone in euros to start hanley in there dt this yr, so yes a lil mancrush ;)
He's a lock for me if he plays haha.
Quote from: whatlez on September 12, 2012, 11:46:23 PM
He's a lock for me if he plays haha.
your a yr to late lez haha, he was a bargain this yr when i started him, did do flower for 5 rounds or so during middle of season but most ppl will have him this yr >:(
Quote from: picker_man on September 12, 2012, 11:57:32 PM
Quote from: whatlez on September 12, 2012, 11:46:23 PM
He's a lock for me if he plays haha.
your a yr to late lez haha, he was a bargain this yr when i started him, did do flower for 5 rounds or so during middle of season but most ppl will have him this yr >:(
Im not sure about most people, im staying away from him.
Quote from: Holzman on September 13, 2012, 02:00:23 AM
Quote from: picker_man on September 12, 2012, 11:57:32 PM
Quote from: whatlez on September 12, 2012, 11:46:23 PM
He's a lock for me if he plays haha.
your a yr to late lez haha, he was a bargain this yr when i started him, did do flower for 5 rounds or so during middle of season but most ppl will have him this yr >:(
Im not sure about most people, im staying away from him.
yeah iam to this yr as to inconsistant but last yr still think was one of the best risks i took :) got me within top 200 dt ;)
Bison give: Rance + Grundy + Hoskin-Elliot + Pick 36
Trolls give: Zorko + Bolton + Pick 49 + Pick 62
Quote from: LaHug on September 13, 2012, 02:14:08 AM
Bison give: Rance + Grundy + Hoskin-Elliot + Pick 36
Trolls give: Zorko + Bolton + Pick 49 + Pick 62
this was one of the hardest trades to do, im sure LaHug will agree as it took sooooo many counter offers to get to this point but im happy getting some youth into my team and my backline will look a whole lot better, LaHug gets a few extras but mainly a gun in Zorko in return.
I confirm :)
Quote from: picker_man on September 13, 2012, 02:17:59 AM
Quote from: LaHug on September 13, 2012, 02:14:08 AM
Bison give: Rance + Grundy + Hoskin-Elliot + Pick 36
Trolls give: Zorko + Bolton + Pick 49 + Pick 62
this was one of the hardest trades to do, im sure LaHug will agree as it took sooooo many counter offers to get to this point but im happy getting some youth into my team and my backline will look a whole lot better, LaHug gets a few extras but mainly a gun in Zorko in return.
I confirm :)
My inbox is so much more full than it used to be... Bolton wasn't my first option but, if he was the piece to make a Zorko trade work, I had to roll with it. Thanks for dealing so maturely over many hours!
Quote from: LaHug on September 13, 2012, 02:20:33 AM
Quote from: picker_man on September 13, 2012, 02:17:59 AM
Quote from: LaHug on September 13, 2012, 02:14:08 AM
Bison give: Rance + Grundy + Hoskin-Elliot + Pick 36
Trolls give: Zorko + Bolton + Pick 49 + Pick 62
this was one of the hardest trades to do, im sure LaHug will agree as it took sooooo many counter offers to get to this point but im happy getting some youth into my team and my backline will look a whole lot better, LaHug gets a few extras but mainly a gun in Zorko in return.
I confirm :)
My inbox is so much more full than it used to be... Bolton wasn't my first option but, if he was the piece to make a Zorko trade work, I had to roll with it. Thanks for dealing so maturely over many hours!
Always a pleasure dealing with you LaHug :)
Bison give: N. Jones + Pick 22 + Pick 56
Savage Sons give: Duffield + Pick 30 + Pick 63
whatlez to confirm
lol
Oh yeah, reasons. My reasoning was I just traded away two backs to get Zorko so I needed to get one back.
And reasoning to get Zorko was that my forwards were week (praying he stays forward).
so, is this trade now official?
with that being official, let me state- Lez, you're flowered.
this is your backline
Grima, Alex Silvagni, Tom Curran, Simon Tunbridge
2 players yet to debut, one who's played 3 games for a 50 average, one who from his game history looks injury prone and only played 12 games.
This are your starting forwards
Forwards: Cyril Rioli, Alex Fasolo, Brandon Matera, Johnathon Patton
Nothing needs to be said. Has potential... but at the same time, patton averaged in the 30s, fasolo and rioli in the 70s and matera in the 60s. Your cover isn't much better
Your Midfield: Mids: Kieran Jack, Jack Steven, Daniel Hannebery, Hamish Hartlett (Luke Sheuy, Jones, Dion Prestia, Sharrod Wellingham, Trent McKenzie, Pick 6 of NAT Draft)
you do realise that nobody really needs mids atm? like, you know that right? even if you trade super aggressively, you're not going to be able to pick up any 80+ backs or forwards who are a reasonable age for that bench.
Even with the rookie draft, your team is structurally flowered.
Quote from: Ziplock on September 13, 2012, 06:45:25 PM
with that being official, let me state- Lez, you're flowered.
this is your backline
Grima, Alex Silvagni, Tom Curran, Simon Tunbridge
2 players yet to debut, one who's played 3 games for a 50 average, one who from his game history looks injury prone and only played 12 games.
This are your starting forwards
Forwards: Cyril Rioli, Alex Fasolo, Brandon Matera, Johnathon Patton
Nothing needs to be said. Has potential... but at the same time, patton averaged in the 30s, fasolo and rioli in the 70s and matera in the 60s. Your cover isn't much better
Your Midfield: Mids: Kieran Jack, Jack Steven, Daniel Hannebery, Hamish Hartlett (Luke Sheuy, Jones, Dion Prestia, Sharrod Wellingham, Trent McKenzie, Pick 6 of NAT Draft)
you do realise that nobody really needs mids atm? like, you know that right? even if you trade super aggressively, you're not going to be able to pick up any 80+ backs or forwards who are a reasonable age for that bench.
Even with the rookie draft, your team is structurally flowered.
zip to be fair there are lots of good defenders left in the rookie so lez should be able to get 3 guys that should all average 70-80 next year than go up from that. Also Harlett and McKenzie i think should get DPP so that should help alot.
Dont get me wrong the eagles will tear this team apart.
Yeah a lot of people recons Hartlett will get DPP and I really think McKenzie should.
If they both do then I will have a better backline than you lol.
lol, no you won't, you'll still be short of one playing defender :P
It's called rookie draft ;)
There are at least 20 defenders that would be handy on field :)
Rookie draft is littered with backs and he has Sandi as a trade chip. Wouldn't count him out just yet. And even if he's flowered this year, he has a big future.
Pickers and I have another deal...
Trolls recieve: Westhoff + Rookie Pick 52
Titans recieve: Hoskin Elliott + Nat Pick 67
Continues our focus on youth. This kid will be a star in a few years!
I confirm.
Need another fwd, as bench is bad and Mcqualter got delisted i think so westhoff will be a solid backup :)
Lol what a spud trade.
Yeah mcqualter got delisted. I think I informed everyone ;)
Quote from: whatlez on September 13, 2012, 09:42:18 PM
Lol what a spud trade.
Yeah mcqualter got delisted. I think I informed everyone ;)
Oh, how hypocritical :P
Looking for rookie picks from the top two rounds.
PM me with offers, I pay good!
Looking for a forward that is scoring well NOW. Don't care about age (the younger the better, obviously, but not fussed). PM me with who you're willing to get rid of.
Quote from: elephants on September 14, 2012, 09:57:09 PM
Looking for rookie picks from the top two rounds.
PM me with offers, I pay good!
Selling some of my rookie pick ;)
That offer you did before does not pay good at all!! :P
Looking to sell:
Daniel hannebury
Luke shuey
Kieran jack
Aaron sandilands
Aaron hall
Ricky Pettard
Alex silvangi
Nathan grima
Paul puopolo
Sharrod wellingham
Fraser Mcinnes (higish draft pick last year)
Hamish Hartlett
Quote from: whatlez on September 15, 2012, 01:52:47 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 14, 2012, 09:57:09 PM
Looking for rookie picks from the top two rounds.
PM me with offers, I pay good!
Selling some of my rookie pick ;)
That offer you did before does not pay good at all!! :P
Looking to sell:
Daniel hannebury
Luke shuey
Kieran jack
Aaron sandilands
Aaron hall
Ricky Pettard
Alex silvangi
Nathan grima
Paul puopolo
Sharrod wellingham
Fraser Mcinnes (higish draft pick last year)
Hamish Hartlett
>:( >:( >:( >:(
not after last nights performance
What happened^^
I missed the game..,
had an absolute shocker
51 DT points as backup.
Gun.
Looking to sell:
Daniel hannebury
Luke shuey
Kieran jack
Aaron sandilands
Aaron hall
Ricky Pettard
Alex silvangi
Nathan grima
Paul puopolo
Sharrod wellingham
Fraser Mcinnes (higish draft pick last year)
Hamish Hartlett
Whatlez I can see why you struggle to find players when using the player search button. It's Hannebery, not Hannebury. Silvagni, not Silvangi ;)
Quote from: whatlez on September 15, 2012, 02:02:04 PM
51 DT points as backup.
Gun.
Playing wise he was shower. Expect him to lose his spot to McPharlin hahahah. Awesome back-up ;)
I heard Silvagni may leave the Dockers anyway to get more game time...
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 15, 2012, 02:26:08 PM
I heard Silvagni may leave the Dockers anyway to get more game time...
Where would he go?
giants?
*my answer to everything*
we are looking for key backs though.
Yeah I had heard Giants at one stage (could have just been Zip saying that though)...
Could want to join his cousin SOS at the Gaints ;)
This is not a giant discussion, but I quickly did those names on the iPad :-[
Not my fault it cannot spell :(
Remember you can only trade a max of 15 players out of your team.
So if you trade judd out for murphy than trade murphy for blease that counts as 1. As judd is the only player to leave your oringial squad.
The following trades have been rejected:
Bison give: N. Jones + Pick 22 + Pick 56
Savage Sons give: Duffield + Pick 30 + Pick 63
Trolls recieve: Westhoff + Rookie Pick 52
Titans recieve: Hoskin Elliott + Nat Pick 67
Trolls get: C Cornes + G Johncock + M Jamar + A McGrath + B Maloney
Titans get: Tapscott + Morabito + Pick 33 Rookie Draft
Trolls recieve - Nathan Foley + Rookie pick 68
Titans recieve - Tom Liberatore + Jed Lamb
Trools recieve : Tom Liberatore + Devon Smith + pick 49 NAT draft
Sons recieve : pick 5, 13 and 19 in rookie draft
Bison (LH) get: Scotland (Titans), Taylor (trolls), Pick 10 (Titans), Pick 28 (Trolls)
Titans (Spink) get: D. Smith (Trolls), Pick 7 (Bison), Pick 50 (Bison)
Trolls (pickers) get: Stanton (Bison), Pick 67 (Titans)
What do you mean they've been rejected?
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 15, 2012, 05:07:50 PM
What do you mean they've been rejected?
what?
confused as well.
hahahaha.
you know picks dont count as list changes, and trading already traded players don't either?
Well apparently now pick changes do not count cause Pickers has abused the 15 max player change.
Trolls List-Changes:
Corey Enright
Hayden Crozier
Trent McKenzie
Liam Sunmer
Michael Hibbard
Tendai Mzungu
Scott Pendlebury
Matthew Lobbe
Travis Varcoe
Harry Taylor
Tom Liberatore
Jed Lamb
Lyke Tapscott
Anthony Morabito
Dayne Zorko
Jude Bolton
Will Hoskin-Elliott
They are Pickers list changes. 17 all up.
Trolls recieve: Westhoff + Rookie Pick 52
Titans recieve: Hoskin Elliott + Nat Pick 67
Norway Receive: Rance + Grundy + Hoskin-Elliot + Pick 36
Belarus Receive: Zorko + Bolton + Pick 49 + Pick 62
Those are trades that cannot go through..
I have looked into it and that is correct, I am sure...
:o
Quote from: whatlez on September 15, 2012, 05:19:12 PM
Trolls List-Changes:
Corey Enright
Hayden Crozier
Trent McKenzie
Liam Sunmer
Michael Hibbard
Tendai Mzungu
Scott Pendlebury
Matthew Lobbe
Travis Varcoe
Harry Taylor
Tom Liberatore
Jed Lamb
Lyke Tapscott
Anthony Morabito
Dayne Zorko
Jude Bolton
Will Hoskin-Elliott
They are Pickers list changes. 17 all up.
were any of these list changes players picker had traded in this trade period, or are they all from his starting squad?
From that list, I know that Libba was traded to pickers and then ontraded. As was Hoskin-Elliot.
So that's down to 15 now...
Also, if any trades were to be cancelled, that would be unfair on the teams he traded with.
Well there you go even at 15. All trades count :D
yeah, all trades are good- but pickers can't trade any more of his original squad anymore.
can't believe he managed to make 15 movements, and I haven't even gotten 1... lol....
Quote from: whatlez on September 15, 2012, 05:11:30 PM
Well apparently now pick changes do not count cause Pickers has abused the 15 max player change.
i havent abused shower!!! get ya facts straight before spinning such crap! i can do 15 list changes i have........ ::)
i can actually make one more, tapscott + libba + WHE have all been on traded leaving me with 14 list changes ;D (Holz to confirm)
my team is looking great i dont need any help thanks lez so you should just worry bout your own ;)
nah, list count depending on how many of your original team you've traded out.
Well the initial rule was 15 list changes including picks, but Pickers flowered that up ::) lol.
if only you put as much time into your team lez ::)
also you sent me a pm (have the convo still ;)) saying it was unlimted trades...... lol ??? after misleading me have you been waiting to bring this up :o
Unlimited trades, is different to unlimited list changes. lol ::)
Quote from: whatlez on September 15, 2012, 07:39:36 PM
Well the initial rule was 15 list changes including picks, but Pickers flowered that up ::) lol.
to be fair lez it was 10 than you went over it so i was lenient. Pickers didnt get the correct advice when he asked for it. Anyone opposed to all pickers trades going through but no more?
There will be no trades after the nat and rookie drafts.
Well it was 10 initially then you changed it 15 cause I had already used up 8 pre drafting period.
Quote from: whatlez on September 15, 2012, 07:55:05 PM
Unlimited trades, is different to unlimited list changes. lol ::)
meaning of unlimited
un·lim·it·ed [uhn-lim-i-tid] Show IPA
adjective
1.
not limited; unrestricted; unconfined: unlimited trade.
2.
boundless; infinite; vast: the unlimited skies.
3.
without any qualification or exception;
unconditional.when you say unlimnited it means its unconditional..... if you can only make 15 list changes then its not unconditonal, thats a condition, so its not unlimted trades ::)
MAX OF 15 PLAYERS FROM YOUR 2012 SQUAD LEAVING YOUR TEAMthats what is posted on the front page...... i look at that and think a rookie / draft pick will be apart of my 2013 squad so the picks arn't included in the 15 list changes.
Quote from: picker_man on September 15, 2012, 08:25:26 PM
Quote from: whatlez on September 15, 2012, 07:55:05 PM
Unlimited trades, is different to unlimited list changes. lol ::)
meaning of unlimited
un·lim·it·ed [uhn-lim-i-tid] Show IPA
adjective
1.
not limited; unrestricted; unconfined: unlimited trade.
2.
boundless; infinite; vast: the unlimited skies.
3.
without any qualification or exception; unconditional.
when you say unlimnited it means its unconditional..... if you can only make 15 list changes then its not unconditonal, thats a condition, so its not unlimted trades ::)
MAX OF 15 PLAYERS FROM YOUR 2012 SQUAD LEAVING YOUR TEAM
thats what is posted on the front page...... i look at that and think a rookie / draft pick will be apart of my 2013 squad so the picks arn't included in the 15 list changes.
picks arent included.
Well you shouldn't rely on me, should ask the guy who runs it. Instead someone who had a team a month before you, who didn't know the rules and only just found out now there are no more trade periods.
ahhh i did send a pm with unlimited trades talked about in it to Holz nothing was said about it..... anywayz not really the point.
I wont trade anymore Holz >:( but yeah all should stay :) casue the only guy whinging is someone who's gone over limit before anywayz :P
Good I have gone over the limit. Reverse my trades and I'll be on my way. I would agree to scrap all my trades and start fresh? Everyone else can stay as normal.
what?
if lez has gone over the limit, the only trades that get reversed will be 16 onwards.
Quote from: Ziplock on September 15, 2012, 09:02:41 PM
what?
if lez has gone over the limit, the only trades that get reversed will be 16 onwards.
Lol, nice try whatlez'
Did everyone know that there will be no more trading once the nat draft commences?
Quote from: whatlez on September 15, 2012, 09:58:40 PM
Did everyone know that there will be no more trading once the nat draft commences?
Yep
I would like to hear others thoughts. And I would them to be honest. I can guarantee at least 3 people were not sure.
I was going to petition a second trade period after the rookie draft, but as it stands I knew.
I knew there wasn't a written law but I 'assumed' there would be at least a small trade period after the drafts.
Also Lez, are you 100% sure you have traded 15 of your orginal members out of your team ? Even so, you and pickers can both trade picks and traded in players for other players/picks
I had no idea...
Nah I haven't traded 15 of my original team. Well the rule original team was only put in today as it used to be 15 list changes including draft picks.
Quote from: whatlez on September 15, 2012, 11:21:02 PM
Nah I haven't traded 15 of my original team. Well the rule original team was only put in today as it used to be 15 list changes including draft picks.
You weren't part of last year's trading so its understandable you misinterpreted but last year the rule was only players traded out constituted a change and players traded in could be on-traded at no extra trade/cost. This meant draft picks were freely traded without adding to the trades/changes too.
Yeah I half knew that. I think we need to make no cap. And maybe open a window after rookie draft?
Quote from: whatlez on September 15, 2012, 11:34:23 PM
Yeah I half knew that. I think we need to make no cap. And maybe open a window after rookie draft?
Agree with both ideas 100% :)
the second trade period I agree with, but there needs to be a cap, which is why we have one- the point is to keep your original team and build off it- not just shred it.
I have so far used 8 of my trades, happy with that :)
I have used 6 of my trades and that probably enough. It seems people want a trade period after the rookie. I had it designed so you would plug holes with the rookie. I would be ok with a very very limited trade period after the rookie if that's what you guys want. Would be likely 2 of 3 cap.
If anyone wants priddis he is on the table and is cheapish i have tons of mids. He should be a starter for lots of team though.
Quote from: Holzman on September 16, 2012, 12:51:09 AM
I have used 6 of my trades and that probably enough. It seems people want a trade period after the rookie. I had it designed so you would plug holes with the rookie. I would be ok with a very very limited trade period after the rookie if that's what you guys want. Would be likely 2 of 3 cap.
Ah that makes sense. You are viewing it like using the Rookie draft to fix your squad whereas I see a minor trade period after as fixing your squad if things don't fall your way in the drafts :P
Quote from: Scrads on September 16, 2012, 12:57:04 AM
Quote from: Holzman on September 16, 2012, 12:51:09 AM
I have used 6 of my trades and that probably enough. It seems people want a trade period after the rookie. I had it designed so you would plug holes with the rookie. I would be ok with a very very limited trade period after the rookie if that's what you guys want. Would be likely 2 of 3 cap.
Ah that makes sense. You are viewing it like using the Rookie draft to fix your squad whereas I see a minor trade period after as fixing your squad if things don't fall your way in the drafts :P
as i said 2-3 im happy with if people really want it, but this trade period is where you fix your team up. Its why im after rookie picks so i can get guys in certain position. I can see the 2-3 being helpful just for tiny things like if you assumed fyfe would be dpp and he lost it than you trade a mid for a forward to cover that up. But your team should be basically set in this draft period.
I am still open for business ;D :P
here are the players ive traded in that can be on traded, wont give up the top 3 but happy to give up a few players to get in another premium mid, so the rest are up for discussion ;)
Trent Cotchin
Jack Redden
Brent Stanton
Chris Judd
Harley Bennell
Nathan Foley
Alex Rance
Drew Petrie
Hayden Ballantyne
Brent Moloney
Heath Grundy
Justin Westhoff
Chad Cornes
Mark Jamar
Chris Newman
Graham Johncock
Ashley McGrath
Quote from: Scrads on September 16, 2012, 12:57:04 AM
Quote from: Holzman on September 16, 2012, 12:51:09 AM
I have used 6 of my trades and that probably enough. It seems people want a trade period after the rookie. I had it designed so you would plug holes with the rookie. I would be ok with a very very limited trade period after the rookie if that's what you guys want. Would be likely 2 of 3 cap.
Ah that makes sense. You are viewing it like using the Rookie draft to fix your squad whereas I see a minor trade period after as fixing your squad if things don't fall your way in the drafts :P
Yeh I reckon a quick trade period after the drafts is a good idea because like scrads said they probably won't go your way
Quote from: Ziplock on September 15, 2012, 11:52:53 PM
the second trade period I agree with, but there needs to be a cap, which is why we have one- the point is to keep your original team and build off it- not just shred it.
Well pickers has killed the 15 max almost lol. And his team isn't finished. It would be unfair since he didn't know the rules...
Quote from: whatlez on September 16, 2012, 09:49:05 AM
Quote from: Ziplock on September 15, 2012, 11:52:53 PM
the second trade period I agree with, but there needs to be a cap, which is why we have one- the point is to keep your original team and build off it- not just shred it.
Well pickers has killed the 15 max almost lol. And his team isn't finished. It would be unfair since he didn't know the rules...
And also it wasn't his team to begin with. He inherited it...
Quote from: picker_man on September 16, 2012, 01:26:08 AM
I am still open for business ;D :P
here are the players ive traded in that can be on traded, wont give up the top 3 but happy to give up a few players to get in another premium mid, so the rest are up for discussion ;)
Trent Cotchin
Jack Redden
Brent Stanton
Chris Judd
Harley Bennell
Nathan Foley
Alex Rance
Drew Petrie
Hayden Ballantyne
Brent Moloney
Heath Grundy
Justin Westhoff
Chad Cornes
Mark Jamar
Chris Newman
Graham Johncock
Ashley McGrath
What do you want for Cotch? ;)
I'm still willing to do what it takes to get one of my man crushes.
And who has Lids?
Quote from: whatlez on September 16, 2012, 09:49:05 AM
Quote from: Ziplock on September 15, 2012, 11:52:53 PM
the second trade period I agree with, but there needs to be a cap, which is why we have one- the point is to keep your original team and build off it- not just shred it.
Well pickers has killed the 15 max almost lol. And his team isn't finished. It would be unfair since he didn't know the rules...
Pickers hasn't killed the 15 max?
in what thread do we post delistings and retirements for our team?
I've got Lids LH and would be prepared to trade him, but would need some quality kids in return. Looking at your list you probably don't have that, but maybe we could get a third party involved?
Quote from: Ziplock on September 16, 2012, 02:19:05 PM
Quote from: whatlez on September 16, 2012, 09:49:05 AM
Quote from: Ziplock on September 15, 2012, 11:52:53 PM
the second trade period I agree with, but there needs to be a cap, which is why we have one- the point is to keep your original team and build off it- not just shred it.
Well pickers has killed the 15 max almost lol. And his team isn't finished. It would be unfair since he didn't know the rules...
Pickers hasn't killed the 15 max?
Hence the almost.
Quote from: Spinking on September 16, 2012, 03:40:46 PM
I've got Lids LH and would be prepared to trade him, but would need some quality kids in return. Looking at your list you probably don't have that, but maybe we could get a third party involved?
Yeah, I don't really have the trade chips to get either of my man crushes :(
Not sure who would be involved...
Quote from: LaHug on September 16, 2012, 04:07:31 PM
Quote from: Spinking on September 16, 2012, 03:40:46 PM
I've got Lids LH and would be prepared to trade him, but would need some quality kids in return. Looking at your list you probably don't have that, but maybe we could get a third party involved?
Yeah, I don't really have the trade chips to get either of my man crushes :(
Not sure who would be involved...
Who are your man crushes??
Quote from: elephants on September 16, 2012, 04:08:31 PM
Quote from: LaHug on September 16, 2012, 04:07:31 PM
Quote from: Spinking on September 16, 2012, 03:40:46 PM
I've got Lids LH and would be prepared to trade him, but would need some quality kids in return. Looking at your list you probably don't have that, but maybe we could get a third party involved?
Yeah, I don't really have the trade chips to get either of my man crushes :(
Not sure who would be involved...
Who are your man crushes??
my whole team lol :P
Quote from: elephants on September 16, 2012, 04:08:31 PM
Quote from: LaHug on September 16, 2012, 04:07:31 PM
Quote from: Spinking on September 16, 2012, 03:40:46 PM
I've got Lids LH and would be prepared to trade him, but would need some quality kids in return. Looking at your list you probably don't have that, but maybe we could get a third party involved?
Yeah, I don't really have the trade chips to get either of my man crushes :(
Not sure who would be involved...
Who are your man crushes??
Lids and Cotchy. I'm a Tiger through and through so it was to be expected that I'd fall in love with these two. I've been in love with Lids for years now while my Cotchin crush is a bit newer.
Quote from: LaHug on September 16, 2012, 04:10:30 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 16, 2012, 04:08:31 PM
Quote from: LaHug on September 16, 2012, 04:07:31 PM
Quote from: Spinking on September 16, 2012, 03:40:46 PM
I've got Lids LH and would be prepared to trade him, but would need some quality kids in return. Looking at your list you probably don't have that, but maybe we could get a third party involved?
Yeah, I don't really have the trade chips to get either of my man crushes :(
Not sure who would be involved...
Who are your man crushes??
Lids and Cotchy. I'm a Tiger through and through so it was to be expected that I'd fall in love with these two. I've been in love with Lids for years now while my Cotchin crush is a bit newer.
Ahhhh, haha fair enough :P
Cotchin :-*
LOL.
^^^ lol i'll pass that onto him lez :)
H.Bennell + A.Rance + pick 34 nat
for
A gun mid is whats on offer atm ;D
Shuey?
Folks. The captain of the Titans - Brett Deledio will be leaving the club this evening as part of the best deal available for quality youngsters.
Currently the club has 3 offers on the table which involve Deledio for 3 highly rated youngsters. Spite and I will be weighing these offers up before the trade is announced tonight.
Anyone else looking to get involved will need to have an offer involving some high quality kids.
Serbia Receive: Brett Deledio + Pick 7
Greece Receive: Dylan Shiel + Stephen Coniglio + Brandon Ellis + Daniel Pearce.
Reason: Have too many good mids so trading 2 potential stars for one current star. Brandon Ellis is a big loss but pick 7 should be able to cover that. Daniel Pearce should get a gig when the dogs rebuild but again way too many mids.
Quote from: Holzman on September 16, 2012, 06:21:06 PM
Serbia Receive: Brett Deledio + Pick 7
Greece Receive: Dylan Shiel + Stephen Coniglio + Brandon Ellis + Daniel Pearce.
Reason: Have too many good mids so trading 2 potential stars for one current star. Brandon Ellis is a big loss but pick 7 should be able to cover that. Daniel Pearce should get a gig when the dogs rebuild but again way too many mids.
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Just waiting on Spite's feedback before confirming. Holz has the best deal of those offered.
Quote from: Spinking on September 16, 2012, 06:38:05 PM
Just waiting on Spite's feedback before confirming. Holz has the best deal of those offered.
lol you lost out spink :P
Spink wins that hands down.
Quote from: elephants on September 16, 2012, 06:42:45 PM
Spink wins that hands down.
agreed, but shiel and conigs weren't being used in my teams. Lids better keep up his average. If he goes down to a 105 which he could i lose big.
Yeah Spink doesn't, but we shouldn't make comments :-X
Quote from: whatlez on September 16, 2012, 06:44:55 PM
Yeah Spink doesn't, but we shouldn't make comments :-X
This! Don't make comments on a trade until it's been confirmed!
This should be a rule and there should be penalties.
Quote from: LaHug on September 16, 2012, 06:46:11 PM
Quote from: whatlez on September 16, 2012, 06:44:55 PM
Yeah Spink doesn't, but we shouldn't make comments :-X
This! Don't make comments on a trade until it's been confirmed!
This should be a rule and there should be penalties.
It is a rule ::) lol.
Quote from: Holzman on September 03, 2012, 12:52:55 AM
Once both teams has posted in this thread agreeing on the deal it will be locked in[/b]
this is important. I would prefer no comenting on trades till all parties have agreed.
All questionable trades will be put to a vote, note this is designed for only really one sided trades were its a terrible deal, not just where some team is winning.
then why post trades in the trades section if there not confirmed between the two before hand ::) geez i'll be putting half my pm's down here otherwise.....
also last yr's nat draft was crap, can find players like ellis + shiel anywere, and imo coniglio will turn out like scully and watts shower 1st nat picks :P anywayz i wanna trade more so lets talk ;D
Cause my Duffield trade was so unreasonable and Zip even gave me a spray for it and others thought it was too, can I make my own trade go to the voting as it unreasonable and stuff up my structure?
Putting me to one defender and essentially tanking for seasons to come? Surely this should be voted against and rejected?
Quote from: whatlez on September 16, 2012, 06:51:36 PM
Cause my Duffield trade was so unreasonable and Zip even gave me a spray for it and others thought it was too, can I make my own trade go to the voting as it unreasonable and stuff up my structure?
Lol no. You agreed hahah
No you agreed to it, so bad luck :P
point is why is Holz posting a trade spink and spite havent agreed to yet as its waiting on spite approval :o
Quote from: Holzman on September 03, 2012, 12:52:55 AM
All questionable trades will be put to a vote, note this is designed for only really one sided trades were its a terrible deal, not just where some team is winning.
There is the rule.
Doesn't matter if I agreed to it. If it unreasonable and questionable and really one-sided.
And I see myself tanking.
Quote from: whatlez on September 16, 2012, 06:55:27 PM
Quote from: Holzman on September 03, 2012, 12:52:55 AM
All questionable trades will be put to a vote, note this is designed for only really one sided trades were its a terrible deal, not just where some team is winning.
There is the rule.
Doesn't matter if I agreed to it. If it unreasonable and questionable and really one-sided.
And I see myself tanking.
If you tank I'll be opening up my own vote.
"all in favour of removing tanking coach's from the comp"
Stay premium.
Quote from: picker_man on September 16, 2012, 06:53:46 PM
No you agreed to it, so bad luck :P
point is why is Holz posting a trade spink and spite havent agreed to yet as its waiting on spite approval :o
Have agreed on terms, just wanting to keep Spite involved.
I have THREE defenders on my list. So essentially the trade cannot go through as I am short of players :S
Say I be stubborn and only recruit players outside defenders position, I should get Duffield back auto-matically as I am short of playing in one position?
Quote from: whatlez on September 16, 2012, 06:59:30 PM
I have THREE defenders on my list. So essentially the trade cannot go through as I am short of players :S
Say I be stubborn and only recruit players outside defenders position, I should get Duffield back auto-matically as I am short of playing in one position?
I say play with one less team next year if that's the case...
At the moment I do not have enough players to manage a full list. Therefore the latest trade involved a defender should be over-turned? Like seriously, that should be the case?
I might be irrational here, but I want a vote.
come on lez :o i think the last 2 days of whinging has just been cause your not happy with the trades you've made, you made the trades so deal with it ::) the rule isnt in place cause you wanna change your mind later.......
Quote from: picker_man on September 16, 2012, 07:07:06 PM
come on lez :o i think the last 2 days of whinging has just been cause your not happy with the trades you've made, you made the trades so deal with it ::) the rule isnt in place cause you wanna change your mind later.......
+1
I wanted to change my mind on the day, but didn't cause I didn't want to dog LH.
Now I want to dog him :P
no it shouldn't- you flowered up, and if your list stays like this you'll have to play someone OOP.
Quote from: whatlez on September 16, 2012, 07:09:14 PM
I wanted to change my mind on the day, but didn't cause I didn't want to dog LH.
Now I want to dog him :P
Why do you want to dog me now........?
Quote from: Holzman on September 16, 2012, 06:21:06 PM
Serbia Receive: Brett Deledio + Pick 7
Greece Receive: Dylan Shiel + Stephen Coniglio + Brandon Ellis + Daniel Pearce.
Reason: Have too many good mids so trading 2 potential stars for one current star. Brandon Ellis is a big loss but pick 7 should be able to cover that. Daniel Pearce should get a gig when the dogs rebuild but again way too many mids.
Confirmed. Pick up some great kids, who fit with the structure I'm working on.
Apologies for he hold up!
Quote from: Ziplock on September 16, 2012, 07:10:08 PM
no it shouldn't- you flowered up, and if your list stays like this you'll have to play someone OOP.
+1
Yeah, thats just tough man.
Then why is there a vote option? Zip made it very clear that it was a poor trade, so it should of gotten to a vote straight away? Or does none of these rules count for anything?
Quote from: whatlez on September 16, 2012, 07:13:19 PM
Then why is there a vote option? Zip made it very clear that it was a poor trade, so it should of gotten to a vote straight away? Or does none of these rules count for anything?
Quote from: Holzman on September 03, 2012, 12:52:55 AM
All questionable trades will be put to a vote, note this is designed for only really one sided trades were its a terrible deal, not just where some team is winning.
The trade may not have been the best thing for your team in the short term but it wasn't like it was hugely one sided. It goes to a vote if it was really one sided, not if you realise that you are short on backs.
Quote from: whatlez on September 16, 2012, 07:13:19 PM
Then why is there a vote option? Zip made it very clear that it was a poor trade, so it should of gotten to a vote straight away? Or does none of these rules count for anything?
no the rules are inplace if its completely unfair, Jones for duffield is not unfair........ how are we meant to know what your doing with your structure..... I'd like to cancel a trade i did but ive gotta deal with it + i'd like you to get duffield back as i'd offer you something i reckon you'd take LaHug wouldnt but what's done is done :)
Well on the day I said I do not want to go through with the trade then LH said I am screwed, I did the trade with Pickers already and I need our trade to go through... I still didn't want to go through with it, then felt bad... :S.
It was essentially if I didn't go through with it.. LH would be worse for wear as he needed both trades to go through and he accepted the one with pickers, before he got 100% comfirmation with me. Then posted it before I got to think about it more.
why am i brought into another issue :-[ lol. anywayz im happy with my trades overall so yeah will leave it up to you and LH to work out, but if goes to vote i know what i will go for ;) :P
Quote from: whatlez on September 16, 2012, 07:25:48 PM
Well on the day I said I do not want to go through with the trade then LH said I am screwed, I did the trade with Pickers already and I need our trade to go through... I still didn't want to go through with it, then felt bad... :S.
It was essentially if I didn't go through with it.. LH would be worse for wear as he needed both trades to go through and he accepted the one with pickers, before he got 100% comfirmation with me. Then posted it before I got to think about it more.
You said via Facebook chat that you confirmed it. You may have changed your mind between then and me confirming with pickers and you're right in saying that I would have been worse for wear. However, you did the right thing and stayed with what we had previously agreed on. For that, you have my utmost respect and I can vouch for your integrity on the trade market. However, trying to back out of it now is slowly undoing the good you did before.
I'm sorry that your team is worse off and I'm 100% for having trades between the drafts and the season (also think the limit should be higher than 2-3... maybe 5 or even 8+). Hopefully you can get some backs back.
"I will accept..."
There! Problem solved ;D
Thursday
Luke Whatley
... I'm not that keen on the trade anymore... :S Not sure what to do
..
Thursday
LaHug
You're kidding me... The only reason I made either trade (this and the pickers one) is because they work well together...................
Why not........? I'm a bit screwed now...
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Thursday
Luke Whatley
Yeah.... I know
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Thursday
LaHug
what about it makes you no longer keen?
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Thursday
Luke Whatley
Hmm... I see more value in duffield... :S
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Thursday
LaHug
as in, you've seen more between last night and tonight than you had previously seen?
i don't know how to spice up the trade (don't have many/any chips left to throw in)
what would you need to get it through?
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Thursday
Luke Whatley
Not sure... :S
.... Hold on... Give me 20 minutes.
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Thursday
LaHug
ok...
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Thursday
Luke Whatley
The more I thought about it... The more I realised duffield is at par or better than nat jones... And a defender..,, also realising I only have 2 back man on my whole list!
If I don't get the player I want from rookie daft, then I won't even have enough backs on my list....
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Thursday
LaHug
zip told me that you intended on getting backs through the draft which is why you didn't care about how many you had in your list
and i agreed that duff was worth more than jones which is why i upgraded a couple of picks as well!
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Thursday
Luke Whatley
I intended to wat?
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Thursday
LaHug
i dunno, just passing on what he said...
rookie draft, apparently
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Thursday
Luke Whatley
When did he say that?
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Thursday
LaHug
just today when i was asking him about trades and he mentioned our duffield trade
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Thursday
Luke Whatley
hmmm, hmm is there a way i can buy jones off you and keep duffield?
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Thursday
LaHug
the whole point of trading with you was so that i could get duffield and the whole point of getting duffield was so that i could trade away 2 of my backs to pickers and not be screwed
if i don't get duffield, i don't have a fieldable backline any more
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Thursday
Luke Whatley
im stuck in a rock and hard place here
i do not want to dog you mate
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Thursday
LaHug
i know it must be irritating for you but you have to imagine how i'm feeling right now. i can't take back the pickers trade and i only confirmed that with him last night because we'd agreed on our deal
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Thursday
Luke Whatley
yeah...
who knows duffield could turn into a spud
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Thursday
LaHug
he may well. just like n jones could improve much more than expected and average 105+ next season. and i'm taking that risk because it meant i could afford weakening my backline to get zorko
i can't back out of this now
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Thursday
Luke Whatley
mmm
i will accept...
Lads. I've been really happy with the kids I've been able to pick up. Just got a couple of final trades to wrap it up for me.
I have:
Simon Black
Joel Corey
Brad Sewell
Daniel Giansiracusa
I want to trade all these guys, either as a package deal or individually, for kids / draft picks.
Make an offer!
23:55
Luke Whatley
Jones instead of armitage
Then I'll be happy smile
Sorry :S
23:59
LaHug
oh, ok. so you're set on jones?
22 + 56 + jones
for 30 + 63 + duffield ?
01:13
LaHug
I'm going to post this up now for you to confirm when you hop online tomorrow. Hopefully you haven't had a change of heart or I'll look real silly.
01:21
LaHug
Can you just confirm this either here or FF before I post it on the trade thread?
Once you've said yes, I'll post it there and you can confirm. Then I can stop thinking about trades for a little while. Doing my head in...
Thursday
08:12
Luke Whatley
Haha doing your head in
Yep I confirm... I won't be replying to confirm on there until this afternoon...
Quote from: whatlez on September 13, 2012, 09:18:50 AM
Now our trade LH :D
Looks like you confirmed the trade and were pretty keen on it...
BAM BAM BAM!!! Bring it boys :P as this trade with HP gives me the best midfield in the comp ;D and that was my goal :)
H. Bennell + A. Rance + C. Judd + H. Grundy
FOR
J. Selwood + B. Harvey + J. Brown
I lose my youth and gives HP one of the best teams overall, but i needed some forward backups to get another deal done and leaves me with a midfield off
T.Cotchin - J.Selwood - J.Redden - B.Stanton - N.Foley - D.Wells / B.Moloney / E.Curnow / guy im about to trade in :P
As if thats not best midfield ever haha :P just HP to confirm
Quote from: picker_man on September 16, 2012, 08:04:49 PM
BAM BAM BAM!!! Bring it boys :P as this trade with HP gives me the best midfield in the comp ;D and that was my goal :)
H. Bennell + A. Rance + C. Judd + H. Grundy
FOR
J. Selwood + B. Harvey + J. Brown
I lose my youth and gives HP one of the best teams overall, but i needed some forward backups to get another deal done and leaves me with a midfield off
T.Cotchin - J.Selwood - J.Redden - B.Stanton - N.Foley - D.Wells / B.Moloney / E.Curnow / guy im about to trade in :P
As if thats not best midfield ever haha :P just HP to confirm
Yes, I'm giving up JSel to Picker who now has that midfield :o :o :o :o :o. Puts him into Premiership contention, especially with harvey + Brown in there!
But the reason why I did the trade, Makes my team better all round! I have many forwards, so didn't mind giving up those two nearing the end of their careers for 2 playing Backmen, especially a youngster like Rance! Add to that getting Judd who is replacing Selwood's scoring ability somewhat over next few season and a very talented Harley Bennell to the midfield, makes up for such a big loss in Joel! Hopefully Picker does well next season, but will certainly help our structure alot for upcoming seasons :). Benefits both sides.
God pickers lost big time.
Quote from: whatlez on September 16, 2012, 08:52:13 PM
God pickers lost big time.
LOLOL i guess thats why i have 4 premium mids all within the top 14 ave players for 2012 and you dont :P umm also you wanna cancel your trades now you realise you lost out......
Oooooooo, I see a potential rivalry looming :o
Judd = Selwood
Bennell better than Harvey by 2 country miles
Grundy = Brown if not better.
Rance 75-80 back.
Also Harvey has 1 year left in him and he misses 6 weeks of the season.
Quote from: whatlez on September 16, 2012, 09:02:02 PM
Judd = Selwood
Bennell better than Harvey by 2 country miles
Grundy = Brown if not better.
Rance 75-80 back.
Also Harvey has 1 year left in him and he misses 6 weeks of the season.
Pfffft. As if Jelwood equals Judd...
ok i'll stop my explanation at judd vs selwood.......
judd ave 90.4 age 29
selwood ave 103.0 age 24
so yeah if you think thats even there's no point me talking bout the rest ::) you dont want your other trades going through after getting advice on them from others, so maybe chat to other ppl about if this trade is fair im sure they'll get you to change your mind again lololol :P
and reminder T.Cotchin + J.Selwood + B.Stanton + J.Redden + N.Foley + B.Whitecross / B.Moloney / D.Wells are my strarting 6 mids..... are you worried about that lez lol :P
Whitecross ???
But yeah cept selwood you got smashed a bit in the trade.
Quote from: whatlez on September 16, 2012, 09:16:56 PM
Whitecross ???
But yeah cept selwood you got smashed a bit in the trade.
selwood is the reason i made the trade ::) so honestly i dont care bout the rest..... its not as if there's premium mids on every corner waiting to be traded unlike ave backs like rance + grundy who i can pick up in rookie draft if i get the right picks ;)
How are you going to get rookie picks? I have them all? :P
Quote from: whatlez on September 16, 2012, 09:30:28 PM
How are you going to get rookie picks? I have them all? :P
I'll offer you a spud deal for them, you'll think about it and then accept, I'll confirm it but you'll then change your mind but it will be to late lol :P thats how ;D
I don't care how much crying, sooking and whinging I am doing, according to the rules, any unreasonable trades should go to a vote.
After the trade was brought up this was the first comment.
Quote from: Ziplock on September 13, 2012, 06:45:25 PM
with that being official, let me state- Lez, you're flowered.
this is your backline
Grima, Alex Silvagni, Tom Curran, Simon Tunbridge
2 players yet to debut, one who's played 3 games for a 50 average, one who from his game history looks injury prone and only played 12 games.
This are your starting forwards
Forwards: Cyril Rioli, Alex Fasolo, Brandon Matera, Johnathon Patton
Nothing needs to be said. Has potential... but at the same time, patton averaged in the 30s, fasolo and rioli in the 70s and matera in the 60s. Your cover isn't much better
Your Midfield: Mids: Kieran Jack, Jack Steven, Daniel Hannebery, Hamish Hartlett (Luke Sheuy, Jones, Dion Prestia, Sharrod Wellingham, Trent McKenzie, Pick 6 of NAT Draft)
you do realise that nobody really needs mids atm? like, you know that right? even if you trade super aggressively, you're not going to be able to pick up any 80+ backs or forwards who are a reasonable age for that bench.
Even with the rookie draft, your team is structurally flowered.
So straight away Zip made it clear that the trade was very un even. So once this comment came up and we follow the rules, then a vote should of been made.
Now with the vote. I know 5 people at least have already admitted I lost in and I have proof for them all. So are we going to ignore the rule or are we going to just change it so no conflict comes up?
He never once said it was uneven. He said your team was screwed but not that the trade wasn't fair.
Structurally, you're boned.
As far as the trade goes, its fine.
Its no ones fault but your own that you traded away all your backmen.
Plus, I've offered you backmen on a number of occasions to help diffuse the situation only to be denied each time.
I'd love to back you in here mate but I can't, I simply can't :-\
Quote from: whatlez on September 16, 2012, 10:02:06 PM
So straight away Zip made it clear that the trade was very un even. So once this comment came up and we follow the rules, then a vote should of been made.
Now with the vote. I know 5 people at least have already admitted I lost in and I have proof for them all. So are we going to ignore the rule or are we going to just change it so no conflict comes up?
Im happy to put it to the vote. The question will be is do you think this is a terribly one sided trade where one team completely screws the other. If you think one side wins that is not enough, it has to be one side robbing the other.
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Quote from: picker_man on September 16, 2012, 08:04:49 PM
T.Cotchin - J.Selwood - J.Redden - B.Stanton - N.Foley - D.Wells / B.Moloney / E.Curnow / guy im about to trade in :P
As if thats not best midfield ever haha :P just HP to confirm
far out Pickers I have competition, your top 4 looks scary. I think i have more depth but you definately have more firepower.
Pendles - Deledio - McLean - Barlow - Priddis - Swallow - Omeara - Kornes
Ele, Brodie Smith for picks 10, 11 and 12 is very unreasonable. And that's the best offer you have sent..,,
Quote from: Holzman on September 16, 2012, 11:09:12 PM
Quote from: picker_man on September 16, 2012, 08:04:49 PM
T.Cotchin - J.Selwood - J.Redden - B.Stanton - N.Foley - D.Wells / B.Moloney / E.Curnow / guy im about to trade in :P
As if thats not best midfield ever haha :P just HP to confirm
far out Pickers I have competition, your top 4 looks scary. I think i have more depth but you definately have more firepower.
Pendles - Deledio - McLean - Barlow - Priddis - Swallow - Omeara - Kornes
;D i am quite surprsied i got all those top 4 in, but it has flowered the rest of my team were i think others will get a very good advantage over me :-\.I think there's one trade left Holz which will get me the depth you have..... lets do it ;)
Quote from: whatlez on September 16, 2012, 11:24:36 PM
Ele, Brodie Smith for picks 10, 11 and 12 is very unreasonable. And that's the best offer you have sent..,,
In the position you're in its really not.
Quote from: picker_man on September 16, 2012, 11:25:30 PM
Quote from: Holzman on September 16, 2012, 11:09:12 PM
Quote from: picker_man on September 16, 2012, 08:04:49 PM
T.Cotchin - J.Selwood - J.Redden - B.Stanton - N.Foley - D.Wells / B.Moloney / E.Curnow / guy im about to trade in :P
As if thats not best midfield ever haha :P just HP to confirm
far out Pickers I have competition, your top 4 looks scary. I think i have more depth but you definately have more firepower.
Pendles - Deledio - McLean - Barlow - Priddis - Swallow - Omeara - Kornes
;D i am quite surprsied i got all those top 4 in, but it has flowered the rest of my team were i think others will get a very good advantage over me :-\.I think there's one trade left Holz which will get me the depth you have..... lets do it ;)
no good having a crazy mid if your other lines are weak. I have probably weakened my mid this trade period but I have Goldy and Mummy in my ruckline and a decent back and forward line.
I have a pretty good backline with Scotland, Suckling and Duffield ;)
Quote from: LaHug on September 16, 2012, 11:40:08 PM
I have a pretty good backline with Scotland, Suckling and Duffield ;)
GIBBS, adcock im happy with. It wont happen but imagine if lids stays a back.
Birchall, Houli, Nicholson and Conca/Smith.
Not too shabby. Absolute quality depth.
Cannot match mine.
Bock / Dempster / Newman / Cornes cracking backline lol :P
Harvey / Whitecross / Brown / Ballantyne / Petrie / Westhoff and a cracking fwd line ;)
oh well ive got the best mids imo and giles so yeah ;D ;D
lol, those are terrible lines.
lol i know zip :( but i didnt want to add in my best line as thought it would be unfair posting it again, want you all to still think you have a chance next yr :P haha
Quote from: Holzman on September 16, 2012, 11:41:25 PM
Quote from: LaHug on September 16, 2012, 11:40:08 PM
I have a pretty good backline with Scotland, Suckling and Duffield ;)
GIBBS, adcock im happy with. It wont happen but imagine if lids stays a back.
If Lids stays back and Gibbs gets it (which he should), you'll be ridiculous! I need Zorko to stay forward and Rocky to gain forward status...
have any teams not traded?
Quote from: Ziplock on September 17, 2012, 12:00:01 AM
have any teams not traded?
MTTY, Nost.
Nost thinks we can trade next year and won't look into it until next year and not sure on Mtty...
Quote from: LaHug on September 16, 2012, 11:58:31 PM
Quote from: Holzman on September 16, 2012, 11:41:25 PM
Quote from: LaHug on September 16, 2012, 11:40:08 PM
I have a pretty good backline with Scotland, Suckling and Duffield ;)
GIBBS, adcock im happy with. It wont happen but imagine if lids stays a back.
If Lids stays back and Gibbs gets it (which he should), you'll be ridiculous! I need Zorko to stay forward and Rocky to gain forward status...
Deledio won't be a back hahah
Quote from: elephants on September 17, 2012, 12:04:20 AM
Quote from: LaHug on September 16, 2012, 11:58:31 PM
Quote from: Holzman on September 16, 2012, 11:41:25 PM
Quote from: LaHug on September 16, 2012, 11:40:08 PM
I have a pretty good backline with Scotland, Suckling and Duffield ;)
GIBBS, adcock im happy with. It wont happen but imagine if lids stays a back.
If Lids stays back and Gibbs gets it (which he should), you'll be ridiculous! I need Zorko to stay forward and Rocky to gain forward status...
Deledio won't be a back hahah
I can always dream. Dont really need him down back just need him to keep up his 110 average.
Quote from: whatlez on September 17, 2012, 12:02:46 AM
Quote from: Ziplock on September 17, 2012, 12:00:01 AM
have any teams not traded?
MTTY, Nost.
Nost thinks we can trade next year and won't look into it until next year and not sure on Mtty...
*me
I've been talking to mtty, but recently he's been ignoring me :'(
Quote from: Ziplock on September 17, 2012, 12:25:21 AM
Quote from: whatlez on September 17, 2012, 12:02:46 AM
Quote from: Ziplock on September 17, 2012, 12:00:01 AM
have any teams not traded?
MTTY, Nost.
Nost thinks we can trade next year and won't look into it until next year and not sure on Mtty...
*me
I've been talking to mtty, but recently he's been ignoring me :'(
Not alone there mate...
Quote from: Ziplock on September 17, 2012, 12:25:21 AM
Quote from: whatlez on September 17, 2012, 12:02:46 AM
Quote from: Ziplock on September 17, 2012, 12:00:01 AM
have any teams not traded?
MTTY, Nost.
Nost thinks we can trade next year and won't look into it until next year and not sure on Mtty...
*me
I've been talking to mtty, but recently he's been ignoring me :'(
I'm willing to talk trades with you, Zip ;)
Quote from: LaHug on September 17, 2012, 12:39:15 AM
Quote from: Ziplock on September 17, 2012, 12:25:21 AM
Quote from: whatlez on September 17, 2012, 12:02:46 AM
Quote from: Ziplock on September 17, 2012, 12:00:01 AM
have any teams not traded?
MTTY, Nost.
Nost thinks we can trade next year and won't look into it until next year and not sure on Mtty...
*me
I've been talking to mtty, but recently he's been ignoring me :'(
I'm willing to talk trades with you, Zip ;)
As am I, I'm bored haha
As we are showing off lines, I have the most depth in forwards and backs are now solid :D.
Forwards: Chapman, Lewis, Gray, Adams (Mayne, Watts, Stanley, O'Hanlon).
Backs: Goddard, Harbrow, Mackie, Rance (Grundy, Carlisle, Ellis, Thompson, ASel).
Mids: McVeigh, Judd, Bennell, Scott Selwood (Duncan, Bennell, Wingard, Tyson, Ray, Thomas, Hocking).
Nothing spectacular, but solid :).
Quote from: Hellopplz on September 17, 2012, 01:03:45 AM
As we are showing off lines, I have the most depth in forwards and backs are now solid :D.
Forwards: Chapman, Lewis, Gray, Adams (Mayne, Watts, Stanley, O'Hanlon).
Backs: Goddard, Harbrow, Mackie, Rance (Grundy, Carlisle, Ellis, Thompson, ASel).
Mids: McVeigh, Judd, Bennell, Scott Selwood (Duncan, Bennell, Wingard, Tyson, Ray, Thomas, Hocking).
Nothing spectacular, but solid :).
Fair evaluation mate!
I think you'll be a 3rd - 6th place side.
While it having a lot of firepower your depth and ability to avoid OOP players should see you have a good season.
My two cents :P
Quote from: elephants on September 17, 2012, 01:08:32 AM
Quote from: Hellopplz on September 17, 2012, 01:03:45 AM
As we are showing off lines, I have the most depth in forwards and backs are now solid :D.
Forwards: Chapman, Lewis, Gray, Adams (Mayne, Watts, Stanley, O'Hanlon).
Backs: Goddard, Harbrow, Mackie, Rance (Grundy, Carlisle, Ellis, Thompson, ASel).
Mids: McVeigh, Judd, Bennell, Scott Selwood (Duncan, Bennell, Wingard, Tyson, Ray, Thomas, Hocking).
Nothing spectacular, but solid :).
Fair evaluation mate!
I think you'll be a 3rd - 6th place side.
While it having a lot of firepower your depth and ability to avoid OOP players should see you have a good season.
My two cents :P
Indeed, have some future fantasy scorers, so don't mind being in finals contention right now, hopefully some step up earlier to be in premiership contention :P.
Lez mate, you still have a couple of options. Not to mention Hartlett should get DPP for you. Basically you need to draft a couple of backs in or trade some in with your remaining trades/on-trade players.
IMO the post-draft trade period should be 5 or 6 trades.
Guys I am taking offers for Ablett at the moment but be warned, if you want him you WILL be paying ;)
Quote from: Hellopplz on September 17, 2012, 01:03:45 AM
As we are showing off lines, I have the most depth in forwards and backs are now solid :D.
Forwards: Chapman, Lewis, Gray, Adams (Mayne, Watts, Stanley, O'Hanlon).
Backs: Goddard, Harbrow, Mackie, Rance (Grundy, Carlisle, Ellis, Thompson, ASel).
Mids: McVeigh, Judd, Bennell, Scott Selwood (Duncan, Bennell, Wingard, Tyson, Ray, Thomas, Hocking).
Nothing spectacular, but solid :).
your forward depth drops when Adam is a mid only. I would play watts down back too.
Quote from: Holzman on September 17, 2012, 02:51:08 AM
Quote from: Hellopplz on September 17, 2012, 01:03:45 AM
As we are showing off lines, I have the most depth in forwards and backs are now solid :D.
Forwards: Chapman, Lewis, Gray, Adams (Mayne, Watts, Stanley, O'Hanlon).
Backs: Goddard, Harbrow, Mackie, Rance (Grundy, Carlisle, Ellis, Thompson, ASel).
Mids: McVeigh, Judd, Bennell, Scott Selwood (Duncan, Bennell, Wingard, Tyson, Ray, Thomas, Hocking).
Nothing spectacular, but solid :).
your forward depth drops when Adam is a mid only. I would play watts down back too.
Speculation at this stage :-X.
Quote from: Scrads on September 17, 2012, 02:30:23 AM
Lez mate, you still have a couple of options. Not to mention Hartlett should get DPP for you. Basically you need to draft a couple of backs in or trade some in with your remaining trades/on-trade players.
IMO the post-draft trade period should be 5 or 6 trades.
Guys I am taking offers for Ablett at the moment but be warned, if you want him you WILL be paying ;)
I know I offered Liam Jones before but I'm going to go a step further and include Setanta O'hAilpin in that deal. That's right, two star forwards for an ok mid. It's probably not fair for me but I like Ablett's potential and think he may breakout some time soon. I'll just leave it here for you to confirm (no point PMing)
LH gets Ablett
Scrads gets L. Jones, O'hAilpin
Scrads to confirm ;)
Scrads already said he was giving his first round national + Ablett for folau.
The Nathan Jones and Paul Duffield trade has been put to vote and it has been passed.
Hooray
as it should have been.
in exciting news, the Valkyries are very close to closing their first deal for the season ;)
The last couple of pages are amusing. Everyone is talking up their best lines, depth etc. Let's see what I can come up with.
B: Tambling, Enright, Myers, Bob - Lake, Batchelor, Hombsch, Drummond, Pedo
M: Watson, Tuck, Griffen, Thommo - Hayes, Cross, Dal Santo, Wallis, Treloar
R: Cox - Minson, Stefan
F: NRoo, Stevie J, Higgins, Martin - Breust, Cameron, Maccaffer, Cooney (maybe f/m)
The first player listed is scores HUGE.
Quote from: meow meow on September 17, 2012, 02:59:25 PM
The last couple of pages are amusing. Everyone is talking up their best lines, depth etc. Let's see what I can come up with.
B: Tambling, Enright, Myers, Bob - Lake, Batchelor, Hombsch, Drummond, Pedo
M: Watson, Tuck, Griffen, Thommo - Hayes, Cross, Dal Santo, Wallis, Treloar
R: Cox - Minson, Stefan
F: NRoo, Stevie J, Higgins, Martin - Breust, Cameron, Maccaffer, Cooney (maybe f/m)
Meh, its okay. Shame the average age of your team is 600.
Putting Shuey, Jack, Wellingham and Hennebery on the market to secure ONE decent back and ONE decent forward.
(E.g. Ballantyne as a forward, Rance as a defender)
Quote from: elephants on September 17, 2012, 07:22:03 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 17, 2012, 02:59:25 PM
The last couple of pages are amusing. Everyone is talking up their best lines, depth etc. Let's see what I can come up with.
B: Tambling, Enright, Myers, Bob - Lake, Batchelor, Hombsch, Drummond, Pedo
M: Watson, Tuck, Griffen, Thommo - Hayes, Cross, Dal Santo, Wallis, Treloar
R: Cox - Minson, Stefan
F: NRoo, Stevie J, Higgins, Martin - Breust, Cameron, Maccaffer, Cooney (maybe f/m)
Meh, its okay. Shame the average age of your team is 600.
haha.
dont hack on him- my grandpa said that enright and riewoldt used to dominate him back in his day.
and he's only 87.
me & Holz have come to a trade:
Matt Priddis+Mitchell Grigg
FOR
Matthew Boyd.
Holz to confirm.
Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 17, 2012, 09:49:57 PM
me & Holz have come to a trade:
Matt Priddis+Mitchell Grigg
FOR
Matthew Boyd.
Holz to confirm.
Accept.
Pridda is 3 years younger and i can see him averaging 100 next year without the injury. Grigg if given a chance will shine , i wanted to keep him but i have the depth in the mids so can afford to lose him.
Boyd has only 1-2 years left i think but he should be a top 10 mid till he retires.
flower off Holz >:( now ive got real competition next yr :(
Despite being traded Matty Boyd as favourite for the Nadallion. There will also be other awards like best young player, best 1st year player, Mr. Consistent, Highest Score, Biggest Improver & Late Bloomer. Get into it!
Quote from: picker_man on September 17, 2012, 09:53:14 PM
flower off Holz >:( now ive got real competition next yr :(
Pendles, Boyd, Lids, Barlow (Mclean, Swallow)
Omeara, Kornes, Pick 7 not too bad ;)
Add to that my other lines are pretty decent.
Mummy/Goldy in the ruck.
Gibbs and Adcock my only good backs so thats a weakenss.
Cloke, Knights, Lecras, Walker up front is passable.
Quote from: Holzman on September 17, 2012, 09:51:30 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 17, 2012, 09:49:57 PM
me & Holz have come to a trade:
Matt Priddis+Mitchell Grigg
FOR
Matthew Boyd.
Holz to confirm.
Accept.
Pridda is 3 years younger and i can see him averaging 100 next year without the injury. Grigg if given a chance will shine , i wanted to keep him but i have the depth in the mids so can afford to lose him.
Boyd has only 1-2 years left i think but he should be a top 10 mid till he retires.
What the shower.
McMahon + Hurn + Nat 13 + Rook 25
For
Hannebery + Patton + Rook 34
Spink to confirm.
Quote from: whatlez on September 17, 2012, 11:29:01 PM
McMahon + Hurn + Nat 13 + Rook 25
For
Hannebery + Patton + Rook 34
Spink to confirm.
Confirmed. More kids in. More oldies out.
I do admire the youth revolution at the Titans Spink!
Would have taken lez's desperation for defenders to the cleaners more though :P
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 17, 2012, 11:36:26 PM
Would have taken lez's desperation for defenders to the cleaners more though :P
Yeah, he's a tough negotiator...
I'm happy though...
Only got 3 more trades left to use now :(
3 trades or 3 list changes??
Quote from: whatlez on September 17, 2012, 11:45:02 PM
3 trades or 3 list changes??
3 list changes. 12 blokes have left my squad since I took over - Assume that is how it works...
Yeah you retrade the players ad picks you have gotten in haha
i want more list changes >:( everyone's talking trades and i cant do much :( poor pickers. lol
whitecross will be traded in 2nd trade period get in now ;)
Quote from: elephants on September 17, 2012, 11:34:20 PM
I do admire the youth revolution at the Titans Spink!
Thanks Ele! Gone from oldest list to youngest in a week!
Quote from: Spinking on September 17, 2012, 11:56:13 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 17, 2012, 11:34:20 PM
I do admire the youth revolution at the Titans Spink!
Thanks Ele! Gone from oldest list to youngest in a week!
I have done abit of the opposite, im looking abit older than i was before. Still have lots of good youth though.
Quote from: Holzman on September 18, 2012, 01:28:25 AM
Quote from: Spinking on September 17, 2012, 11:56:13 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 17, 2012, 11:34:20 PM
I do admire the youth revolution at the Titans Spink!
Thanks Ele! Gone from oldest list to youngest in a week!
I have done abit of the opposite, im looking abit older than i was before. Still have lots of good youth though.
Was this about you? :P
Quote from: whatlez on September 18, 2012, 08:11:14 AM
Quote from: Holzman on September 18, 2012, 01:28:25 AM
Quote from: Spinking on September 17, 2012, 11:56:13 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 17, 2012, 11:34:20 PM
I do admire the youth revolution at the Titans Spink!
Thanks Ele! Gone from oldest list to youngest in a week!
I have done abit of the opposite, im looking abit older than i was before. Still have lots of good youth though.
Was this about you? :P
Hahahahahaha +1 :P
wow so much has happened in the last couple of days.
we have plenty of fwds and backs with solid JS boys so hit Ele or I up
looking at you Lez
Quote from: Holzman on September 16, 2012, 12:51:09 AM
I have used 6 of my trades and that probably enough. It seems people want a trade period after the rookie. I had it designed so you would plug holes with the rookie. I would be ok with a very very limited trade period after the rookie if that's what you guys want. Would be likely 2 of 3 cap.
I agree, if there is a trade period after, limited list changes as to just fix up holes.
And read through the entire thread today, some trades were really iffy to me but oh well.
Anyone keen on Sharrod Wellingham?
107 in a finals game is a decent effort, should keep it up?
Quote from: whatlez on September 18, 2012, 06:34:07 PM
Anyone keen on Sharrod Wellingham?
107 in a finals game is a decent effort, should keep it up?
behind a few in that midfield.... Swan, Pendles, Beams, Sidebottom, Ball, then Wellingham ;)
Quote from: Ricochet on September 18, 2012, 06:37:21 PM
Quote from: whatlez on September 18, 2012, 06:34:07 PM
Anyone keen on Sharrod Wellingham?
107 in a finals game is a decent effort, should keep it up?
behind a few in that midfield.... Swan, Pendles, Beams, Sidebottom, Ball, then Wellingham ;)
You must not be a big fan of Thomas.
Still will average a good 90.
Quote from: Holzman on September 18, 2012, 06:39:32 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 18, 2012, 06:37:21 PM
Quote from: whatlez on September 18, 2012, 06:34:07 PM
Anyone keen on Sharrod Wellingham?
107 in a finals game is a decent effort, should keep it up?
behind a few in that midfield.... Swan, Pendles, Beams, Sidebottom, Ball, then Wellingham ;)
You must not be a big fan of Thomas.
oh yeh can't forget him haha
add him in there as well
Rookie picks 23, 47, 52 in return for a good young forward
Nat picks 34, 36 in return for a good young back
think thats fair :)
Quote from: picker_man on September 18, 2012, 10:13:00 PM
Rookie picks 23, 47, 52 in return for a good young forward
Nat picks 34, 36 in return for a good young back
think thats fair :)
I wouldn't give a forward or back that averages over 70 for those picks.
Should do some more research into how good the nat draft is this year, and how many decent players are left in the rookie draft then zip ::)
I'll give you a bar of soap and some bath water.
i dont want your whole team lez :P
Quote from: picker_man on September 18, 2012, 10:22:18 PM
Should do some more research into how good the nat draft is this year, and how many decent players are left in the rookie draft then zip ::)
I don't know if Zip has done much looking but regardless he has a point :P
Quote from: picker_man on September 18, 2012, 10:22:18 PM
Should do some more research into how good the nat draft is this year, and how many decent players are left in the rookie draft then zip ::)
rookie pick 23 is the only reasonable pick there- but by then goodluck getting a young back or forward averaging over 70...
most drafts dont have the depth making picks 30+ viable.
a good young def / fwd doesnt have to be ave over 70+ atm never said they did, actually arnt massive amounts doing that....... i think sam kerridge will be a good player he ave like 6 or something lol :)
all of those picks for josh toy.
if your not interested in the offer zip its cool you dnt have to be.... but now i can see why ive taken my team from bottom 4 pretenders to top 4 competitors with my 15 list change's getting done and you've made no list changes with anyone..... :D
All of those picks for Aaron Hall? I just raised the stakes haha :P
mate, you're not a top 4 side. Top 8 if you're lucky this year, but after that your team is flowered... you have 3 good mids, and a passable ruckline, and that's it
Backs: Dempster (29), Bock (30), Newman (31), Cornes (34), Johncck(30), Gibson (28), (Talia, Clarke, minimal JS, KPD, Ugle- can't break into giants side). You're going to cop at least 3, probably 4, could theoretically have all 6 of your first backs retire next year.
Mids: Great first 3, Stanton is a hack, but is reasonable as 4th.... then almost no cover, Foley, Wells, Moloney all over 28 next year, wells and foley with injury issues.
Rucks: Giles is good, but probs won't ever be a true premium, Jamar is average but ok cover, Hille wil lretire soon, Bailey can barely string 2 games together (literally), in one of the weakest ruck lines in the comp.
Forwards- Harvey (35), Brown (32), Ballantyne(isnt the type of player who'll go premium, but would be solid 4th/ 5th), Whitecross (Good). Westhoff (PA keyforward- never going to go well), Petrie (31), Pfeiffer (can't even get a consistent spot at PA), Mcgrath (30), Koschitzke(31), Mcqualter (delisted).
Basically, your team *might* make the 8 in 2013, but after that it's going to be rough- you're looking at about half your team pushing 30 and getting ready to retire, and really no room for improvement. Cotchin, Selwood, Redden are great, Stanton is solid, apart from that in your starting 15, the only guys who I'd really want long term in my team is Giles and Whitecross.
I would like to make list changes, and I'm relatively close to a couple of deals, but honestly I'm pretty happy with where it is atm- I would have been pushing for the 8 last season if I hadn't lost my top 3 picks to half a season of injury, and that was with the yougest side in the competition.
Wow... Wanna PM me your brutal assessment of the Bashers while you're at it Zip? :P
Zip dnt worry about my team mate, your point of view on my team is obviously very welcome but you dont know what my plans are for next yr's trading or cant possibly know were i will come next yr, so dont wanna sound rude but got half through that post and went meh.... anyone can criticise a team but unless you have something to back it up with like 2012 premiers why would i get worried on another coaches thoughts....although i think your having a laugh if you dont think i'll be top 4 ::) might be a different comp but have a look at the cobras in worlds shower on everyline except mids and dt scoring is all about mids :)
also just cause your team is young means nothing...... i can trade next yr and get a young team...... or use the nat draft to get a younger team..... but i went for a quality midfield and besides murphy all 4 beat yours.........
Quote from: elephants on September 19, 2012, 12:22:22 AM
Wow... Wanna PM me your brutal assessment of the Bashers while you're at it Zip? :P
I wouldn't mind that either :P. Just to see a take on the team :P. If there is time of course!
Quote from: Hellopplz on September 19, 2012, 12:46:22 AM
Quote from: elephants on September 19, 2012, 12:22:22 AM
Wow... Wanna PM me your brutal assessment of the Bashers while you're at it Zip? :P
I wouldn't mind that either :P. Just to see a take on the team :P. If there is time of course!
Yeah haha, I'm genuinely keen!!
Quote from: elephants on September 19, 2012, 12:57:43 AM
Quote from: Hellopplz on September 19, 2012, 12:46:22 AM
Quote from: elephants on September 19, 2012, 12:22:22 AM
Wow... Wanna PM me your brutal assessment of the Bashers while you're at it Zip? :P
I wouldn't mind that either :P. Just to see a take on the team :P. If there is time of course!
Yeah haha, I'm genuinely keen!!
I have sent him a PM too. I could open a tear apart your oppositions team thread.
yeah prietty funny you want another coaches point of view on your team to point out your weaknesses to you..... i prolly would of actually asked for one but ive already got one and totally disagreed so bit of a waste of time ;D
Quote from: picker_man on September 19, 2012, 01:06:42 AM
yeah prietty funny you want another coaches point of view on your team to point out your weaknesses to you..... i prolly would of actually asked for one but ive already got one and totally disagreed so bit of a waste of time ;D
And that's your right ;D
plz correct me if im wrong, cause might no be best at this but gave it a crack ;D
Grimes - had a great yr, but injuries will always be a concern as your 1st back
Hanley - Neds to find consistancy and if so well be a solid defender
Trengrove - KPP back in a shower team, yet to get over 62ave in 3 seasons
Armstrong - Has never put in consistant games with any club
Backup defenders - Jacobs is the only quarter decent one - Frost, Toy, Bews, Laird lol
Murphy - Gun
Ziebell - Will breakout one yr....
Trengrove - dropped 13 in ave this yr, will loose way to many points him 3rd mid
Gaff - Gun just needs 2yrs or so to be consistant
Ward - Gun but has Knee issues at a young age isnt a good sign
Bastinac - North have alot of young promising players not all will become elite
Bckup mids - Hayes, Bewick, Stevens, Butcher would hardly call that backup worst in the comp.
Mcevoy - Solid Ruck
Backup Rucks - wouldnt want mcevoy to go down again and have stephensen and dowdell as backups to roughhead
Goodes - Old
J.Riewoldt - unless he kicks a bag not the best at DT
Christensen - Good luck if he stays a fwd
Hawkins - Same as Rielwoldt
Backup Fwds - vespremi, grant, gumbletin, delliolli, falou lol if you have to play one of them
So yeah dont see much potential there except a few good young mids, cause the rest are still young you have hope a few will become premium but the names and signs they've shown in DT scoring isnt good for you, half the backup players in def wasnt even sure who they were haha but good luck with that mate :)
Quote from: Ricochet on September 18, 2012, 06:37:21 PM
Quote from: whatlez on September 18, 2012, 06:34:07 PM
Anyone keen on Sharrod Wellingham?
107 in a finals game is a decent effort, should keep it up?
behind a few in that midfield.... Swan, Pendles, Beams, Sidebottom, Ball, then Wellingham ;)
I doubt he'll be at Collingwood next year so he won't have to compete with those guys.
Can someone asses my team? I think I HAD the best mid backup in the comp with Melksham+McCarthy+ Rich but now. :-\ McCarthy has a tragic death, Melky going alright but Rich has to move into Int which isn't too bad I guess.
Anyone want to assess mine? Haha
Zip, I want you to lay a big fat one on my team and see how you go :)
My mid depth is pretty good.
Quote from: picker_man on September 19, 2012, 02:29:14 AM
plz correct me if im wrong, cause might no be best at this but gave it a crack ;D
Grimes - had a great yr, but injuries will always be a concern as your 1st back
Hanley - Neds to find consistancy and if so well be a solid defender
Trengrove - KPP back in a shower team, yet to get over 62ave in 3 seasons
Armstrong - Has never put in consistant games with any club
Backup defenders - Jacobs is the only quarter decent one - Frost, Toy, Bews, Laird lol
Murphy - Gun
Ziebell - Will breakout one yr....
Trengrove - dropped 13 in ave this yr, will loose way to many points him 3rd mid
Gaff - Gun just needs 2yrs or so to be consistant
Ward - Gun but has Knee issues at a young age isnt a good sign
Bastinac - North have alot of young promising players not all will become elite
Bckup mids - Hayes, Bewick, Stevens, Butcher would hardly call that backup worst in the comp.
Mcevoy - Solid Ruck
Backup Rucks - wouldnt want mcevoy to go down again and have stephensen and dowdell as backups to roughhead
Goodes - Old
J.Riewoldt - unless he kicks a bag not the best at DT
Christensen - Good luck if he stays a fwd
Hawkins - Same as Rielwoldt
Backup Fwds - vespremi, grant, gumbletin, delliolli, falou lol if you have to play one of them
So yeah dont see much potential there except a few good young mids, cause the rest are still young you have hope a few will become premium but the names and signs they've shown in DT scoring isnt good for you, half the backup players in def wasnt even sure who they were haha but good luck with that mate :)
Grimes- He's 23, in most cases I don't subscribe to the 'injury prone' saying, especially for players that young... drummond/ sylvia, where it's been proven over like a decade+ sure, but he's had 4 seasons, including his debut, and last year was a freak leg break.
Hanley- he'll find consistency- is still really young, but most importantly was recruited from ireland and didn't grow up playing AFL, this year is his year, and he'll be a machine
Trengrove- yeah, 60 odd average for a 21 year old kpd is actually pretty solid- believe it or not I've had some reasonable trade offers from him. I got him mainly for his JS
Armstrong- Fair enough, I thought he was worth the punt though, and sydney do have a couple of aging HB waiting to retire.
Backs ups: Jacobs is decent, Frost is good for cover- keep in mind everyone was really surprised when he was overlooked for the nat, Toy was a machine as a junior and will be at afl- he just needs to put on a bit of weight, keep in mind he's really young (only made the cut off for last years draft by a couple of days). Bews and Laird suck :P
Mids: Murph, Ziebell, Ward, Gaff are/ will soon, be DT premiums. I still rate trengove highly- often players have a down year after a break out (look at rocky, fyfe, redden, dusty). As for basti and norths promising players that wont all become elite... someone probs would have said that once upon a time looking at collingwood with Beams, Sidey, Swan, Pendles, Wellingham, Thomas.
Rucks: Roughy is pretty young and is a solid ruck as cover.
Fwds: Goodes is old, but he's a beast who'll be pumping out the tons until he's 38. Riewoldt- 23 and 2x coleman medalist already... he can pump out the bags. Hawkins is also a machine. Both averaged over 80, which is damn good for 2nd and 3rd forwards under the age of 25. Veszpremi and Grant were taken based on potential, they could still lift, same with gumby, folau taken for JS and he'll be 60+ soon. Dell'olio isn't terrible as like a 10th back lol.
that's the difference between you and me- 'half the players in def wasnt even sure who they were'- I know pretty much every player in the comp, even the ones not DT relevant, and can assess all of them- that's why I picked the players I did.
I'll assess Holz's team, I dunno how many else I cbf doing... that being said, I'm not doing anything for the next 30+ minutes while I wait for my train :P
Tear my team a part in more depth :P
And you are really generous about your side when it's probably worse than Pickers LOL.
Quote from: elephants on September 17, 2012, 11:34:20 PM
I do admire the youth revolution at the Titans Spink!
What about mine look at all my picks!!
Quote from: Hawka on September 19, 2012, 06:44:00 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 17, 2012, 11:34:20 PM
I do admire the youth revolution at the Titans Spink!
What about mine look at all my picks!!
yours is going to be pretty intense- make sure you use your picks wisely though, you really don't want to waste this opportunity :P
I'm seeling my Rookie Draft picks now. I think I only have zero list movements left I think... :(
Also Sandi and Welly are available, plus all my other traded in players.
ZzzzzzzZzzzzzZ
No one wants rookie picks??
what picks are you intending on selling?
All.
I want defenders or forwards.
Moves to be made.
Stay tuned.
Ladies and gentlemen!!
The Bashers are offering these valuable young defenders up, priceless in this game!
Bachar Houli, Reece Conca, Nick Suban and Dan Nicholson.
Also on the table (and going for cheaper) are Jpod, Jetta and Banner.
PM me with offers!!
Quote from: elephants on September 23, 2012, 02:13:38 PM
Ladies and gentlemen!!
The Bashers are offering these valuable young defenders up, priceless in this game!
Bachar Houli, Reece Conca, Nick Suban and Dan Nicholson.
Also on the table (and going for cheaper) are Jpod, Jetta and Banner.
PM me with offers!!
So Houli, Conca and Nico are on offer, but no Brodie?
Quote from: whatlez on September 23, 2012, 02:17:28 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 23, 2012, 02:13:38 PM
Ladies and gentlemen!!
The Bashers are offering these valuable young defenders up, priceless in this game!
Bachar Houli, Reece Conca, Nick Suban and Dan Nicholson.
Also on the table (and going for cheaper) are Jpod, Jetta and Banner.
PM me with offers!!
So Houli, Conca and Nico are on offer, but no Brodie?
Unfortunately for you F.A.R.K loves Brodie even more than you I think :o
No brodie and Nicholson would have to take a ripper of a deal he is rated highly at the bashers
Mainly Conca is on the table. Young Defender third year next year and is already spitting out huge numbers
We are in the market for a premium midfielder
I want Houli. and Jack, Shuey and others are on the table.
Quote from: whatlez on September 23, 2012, 02:34:38 PM
I want Houli. and Jack, Shuey and others are on the table.
Houli for shuey
With Ziplock:
Riewoldt + Nat 19 + Nat 33 + Rookie 32 ---> Krakouer + Betts + Cunnington + Nat 36 + Rookie 35
Zip to confirm.
Quote from: LaHug on September 23, 2012, 03:20:34 PM
With Ziplock:
Riewoldt + Nat 19 + Nat 33 + Rookie 32 ---> Krakouer + Betts + Cunnington + Nat 36 + Rookie 35
Zip to confirm.
accepted
Trading the following for basically the best I can get.
Jason Blake
Pros: Averaged 75 for the first 11 games of the season, is a defender.
Cons: Didn't play again after getting hurt in rounds 12 and 14, is old.
Setanta O'hAilpin
Pros: Able to score frequently above 80 if given the chance.
Cons: Unlikely to play much more in his career.
Adam Pattison
Pros: Showed some scoring ability at Richmond (albeit, not much).
Cons: Unlikely to get games at Hawthorn as a ruck.
PM me with bids.
Swapping picks with Hawka
Dinos give: Rookie 27 + 44
Trolls give: Nat 34 + 36
Want more rookie picks :)
Sorry for all the offers guys but it takes so many offers to make one offer that someone is happy with
We are really keen on a 100+av midfielder
We can offer
-Houli
-Conca
-R.Shaw
-Caddy
-Banner
-Brad Hill
- Podsiadly
-Nahas
-Leroy Jetta
Lads. Had a bit of interest in 'The Man of Steele' lately. Not sure I want to part with Sidebum, but I am interested to see what others will offer for him. Would be looking for two very good kids, under 23, preferably def or fwd.
Any bites?
Quote from: picker_man on September 23, 2012, 04:42:57 PM
Swapping picks with Hawka
Dinos give: Rookie 27 + 44
Trolls give: Nat 34 + 36
Want more rookie picks :)
Confirmed
Want more draft picks :D
Trade deal with the Bashers 8)
Bashers recieve : B.Moloney
Trolls recieve : B.Hill + Rookie 37
rebuilding my bench and want rookie picks inside top 50 to help do that :)
Quote from: picker_man on September 24, 2012, 12:16:37 PM
Trade deal with the Bashers 8)
Bashers recieve : B.Moloney
Trolls recieve : B.Hill + Rookie 37
rebuilding my bench and want rookie picks inside top 50 to help do that :)
confirmed, we need midfielders and hoping a fresh start will see Moloney push a 90+ average
Trade with the metal
Metal recieve: C.Newman
Trolls recieve: Rookie 41
want more rookie picks :)
Quote from: picker_man on September 24, 2012, 02:50:13 PM
Trade with the metal
Metal recieve: C.Newman
Trolls recieve: Rookie 41
want more rookie picks :)
Confirmed. Newman is slowing down but still has some good football left in him.
Serbia Trade: Rookie 29 + Rookie 43
Norway Trade: Drew Petrie
Reason: While Petrie is old he has a few good years left in him. Is good F4/F5. Dt isnt his game but he will help alot up front. The rookie picks hurt as they could get soem decent young players. But im going for the cup.
Quote from: Holzman on September 24, 2012, 06:44:51 PM
Serbia Trade: Rookie 29 + Rookie 43
Norway Trade: Drew Petrie
Reason: While Petrie is old he has a few good years left in him. Is good F4/F5. Dt isnt his game but he will help alot up front. The rookie picks hurt as they could get soem decent young players. But im going for the cup.
Confirm :). I have the mids /rucks to get me the cup, trying to build a solid backline to make it a certaintity, im happy to let petrie go to get me more rookie picks to get a solid young back 4 8)
ok guys the trade period for Russia will be beginning on wednesday night :)
.....so to all those who have previously sent me offers, PM me again with your offers if you're still interested
and to anyone else ......anyone is up for grabs for the right offer !!!
Quote from: nostradamus on September 24, 2012, 11:14:08 PM
ok guys the trade period for Russia will be beginning on wednesday night :)
.....so to all those who have previously sent me offers, PM me again with your offers if you're still interested
and to anyone else ......anyone is up for grabs for the right offer !!!
Expect a fair few offers from the eagles.
Quote from: Holzman on September 25, 2012, 07:29:42 AM
Quote from: nostradamus on September 24, 2012, 11:14:08 PM
ok guys the trade period for Russia will be beginning on wednesday night :)
.....so to all those who have previously sent me offers, PM me again with your offers if you're still interested
and to anyone else ......anyone is up for grabs for the right offer !!!
Expect a fair few offers from the eagles.
Same here. How many trades do you have left Holz?
Quote from: elephants on September 25, 2012, 10:05:14 AM
Quote from: Holzman on September 25, 2012, 07:29:42 AM
Quote from: nostradamus on September 24, 2012, 11:14:08 PM
ok guys the trade period for Russia will be beginning on wednesday night :)
.....so to all those who have previously sent me offers, PM me again with your offers if you're still interested
and to anyone else ......anyone is up for grabs for the right offer !!!
Expect a fair few offers from the eagles.
Lots I think around 8
Same here. How many trades do you have left Holz?
Serbia Trade: Shane Mumford + Jared Polec + Todd Elton + Nat 44 + Rookie 15
Iceland Trade: Brendan Goddard + Rookie 8
Reason: I need backs and Goddard will be very helpful for me. While Mummy im tipping will be top 5 next year I have goldy so im all good there. Polec is a hit along with the others but rookie 8 should get me another defender.
Quote from: Holzman on September 25, 2012, 06:52:37 PM
Serbia Trade: Shane Mumford + Jared Polec + Todd Elton + Nat 44 + Rookie 15
Iceland Trade: Brendan Goddard + Rookie 8
Reason: I need backs and Goddard will be very helpful for me. While Mummy im tipping will be top 5 next year I have goldy so im all good there. Polec is a hit along with the others but rookie 8 should get me another defender.
Accepted. MASSIVE loss for us in Goddard. But we need a good ruck who should play all weeks (rather than #2 rucks who won't play every week). Mummy can score well when uninjured as shown by past month and a bit of footy. Polec and Elton are added as future players, Elton is a Key Forward but has alot of potential, especially at Richmond who need backup for JRoo. Polec was taken at #4 for a reason, he has plenty of upside and is playing consistently. And a minor downgrade in Rookie picks for them to be included.
Saying that, my backs have entered mediocrity :o.
Good get there Holz... Looks scary next season annoyingly enough.
Quote from: elephants on September 25, 2012, 07:04:15 PM
Good get there Holz... Looks scary next season annoyingly enough.
im thinking Goddard, Gibbs, Adcock, Eski is pretty decent. on the 1% chance lids will keep DPP that would be game over.
Mummy out hurts alto though, my ruck is looking shaky. I actually had Mummy as R1 and Goldy R2
Holz has an awesome team now... unbeatable!
Quote from: LaHug on September 25, 2012, 07:15:43 PM
Holz has an awesome team now... unbeatable!
not unbeatable, alot of good team out there. I cant see me getting back to back spoons though.
Will need guys like Cloke, Walker, Knights, Swallow to improve though.
Quote from: Holzman on September 25, 2012, 07:06:59 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 25, 2012, 07:04:15 PM
Good get there Holz... Looks scary next season annoyingly enough.
im thinking Goddard, Gibbs, Adcock, Eski is pretty decent. on the 1% chance lids will keep DPP that would be game over.
Mummy out hurts alto though, my ruck is looking shaky. I actually had Mummy as R1 and Goldy R2
Hardly ;)
Okay so I have used up my 15 list changes...
Players I can trade:
Aaron Sandilands
Shannon Hurn
Scott McMahon
Sharrod Wellingham
Alex Fasolo
Luke Shuey
Nathan Jones
Trent McKenzie
Plus:
NAT Draft Picks: 6, 13, 22, 26, 56
Rookie Draft Picks: 5, 6, 11, 12, 13, 16, 19, 20, 25, 48, 62
I give Rook pick 30
Picker gives Brad Hill
Reason: TBH not really keen on rook picks and i can add a young hawker!
Quote from: Hawka on September 26, 2012, 05:06:52 PM
I give Rook pick 30
Picker gives Brad Hill
Reason: TBH not really keen on rook picks and i can add a young hawker!
Confirm.
Cause i am keen on rookie picks ;D
i have 37 & 41 rookie aswell Holz ;)
bashers are looking for high national picks (inside top 15)
if you are willing to give yours up for the right price inbox me and we will work something out
Aged 25-30 & ave 70-95..... is 2 categories some of my players im willing to trade fit into :)
Obvioulsy not many trades happening..... guess to many coaches want to much again..... ::) haha. But ive clearly showed im reasonable through the amount of trades ive done so if you have a back or rookie pick up for trade PM me and we'll get another trade done ;)
Yeah I'm too hard to negotiate with :P
But rookie picks ;)
A Massive Grand Final Trade has been completed!!
Bashers Give Patrick Dangerfield, Leroy Jetta, Nick O'Brien
Stallions Give Matthew Priddis, Matthew Wright, National Pick 15
Torp to confirm :)
jolly good trade chaps
Confirmed.
Hurrah!!
Thanks Torp good doing business :)
Quote from: picker_man on September 29, 2012, 07:37:09 PM
jolly good trade chaps
thank you, likewise you have made some good moves.
Bashers still looking for a top 5 national pick. Caddy conca suban and gf superstar mitch morton are all looking for a change of clubs
Looking for a decent forward. Rookie picks and shuey are on sale.
Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 30, 2012, 12:36:13 PM
Trade between me & Scrads:
I Give: Clifton+NAT 11
FOR
Scrads Gives: NAT 5
Scrads to confirm.
nup i not agreeing to that do not do it clifton got delisted sorry torps
Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 30, 2012, 12:36:13 PM
Trade between me & Scrads:
I Give: Clifton+NAT 11
FOR
Scrads Gives: NAT 5
Scrads to confirm.
Haha Torps did you not get my sarcasm ? I told you several times your offers weren't good enough and you offered me this which was blatantly backwards, I actually thought you were being sarcastic and I was just playing along.
Not confirmed.
I proposed that offer and you came back saying this.
Quote from: Scrads on September 30, 2012, 12:22:07 PM
Deal, you post it up I will confirm
No face, no LOL. How was I supposed to know?
Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 30, 2012, 12:56:26 PM
I proposed that offer and you came back saying this.
Quote from: Scrads on September 30, 2012, 12:22:07 PM
Deal, you post it up I will confirm
No face, no LOL. How was I supposed to know?
The fact that it was a ridiculous offer (along with most of your other ones)
Quote from: elephants on September 29, 2012, 08:07:57 PM
Quote from: picker_man on September 29, 2012, 07:37:09 PM
jolly good trade chaps
thank you, likewise you have made some good moves.
I have a large amount of appreciation for the level of civility shown by people in this thread. Hurrah!
Quote from: LaHug on September 30, 2012, 01:08:55 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 29, 2012, 08:07:57 PM
Quote from: picker_man on September 29, 2012, 07:37:09 PM
jolly good trade chaps
thank you, likewise you have made some good moves.
I have a large amount of appreciation for the level of civility shown by people in this thread. Hurrah!
LOL LOL LOL LOL. Holzman edited because it was full on arguing last night. :-X
Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 30, 2012, 01:10:42 PM
Quote from: LaHug on September 30, 2012, 01:08:55 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 29, 2012, 08:07:57 PM
Quote from: picker_man on September 29, 2012, 07:37:09 PM
jolly good trade chaps
thank you, likewise you have made some good moves.
I have a large amount of appreciation for the level of civility shown by people in this thread. Hurrah!
LOL LOL LOL LOL. Holzman edited because it was full on arguing last night. :-X
Haha, I'm aware. I was just having a little bit of fun ;)
Quote from: LaHug on September 30, 2012, 01:23:34 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 30, 2012, 01:10:42 PM
Quote from: LaHug on September 30, 2012, 01:08:55 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 29, 2012, 08:07:57 PM
Quote from: picker_man on September 29, 2012, 07:37:09 PM
jolly good trade chaps
thank you, likewise you have made some good moves.
I have a large amount of appreciation for the level of civility shown by people in this thread. Hurrah!
LOL LOL LOL LOL. Holzman edited because it was full on arguing last night. :-X
Haha, I'm aware. I was just having a little bit of fun ;)
Uni students aren't allowed to have fun :P
Haha thanks Holz :D
Lol at Torp and his stupid trade ;D
Yeah, but sarcasm is hard for 14 year olds to understand...
Quote from: whatlez on September 30, 2012, 01:42:06 PM
Lol at Torp and his stupid trade ;D
Yeah, but sarcasm is hard for 14 year olds to understand...
Zing!
I'm happy to upgrade people's rookie picks. Or tell me who you want and I'll select them for you ;)
So basically for example, pick 25 + something for pick 13.
ahhhh ok.
national 36 for national 6
Not sure if you're stupid or didn't realise what you just typed...
I'd go the stupid one with Zip tbh ;)
oooohk, I get it now.
I'll give you rookie 35 for rookie 5.
is that how it works?
Hahaha to be fair it wasn't that well explained whatlez...
All I know is the word rookie was mentioned... ::)
Travis Colyer and James Polkinghorne are both on the table for any Rookie or Nat pick between 30 and 40 if people are interested.
Another trade with Scrads:
Titans receive: Tom Scully + Rookie 54
Wolves receive: Jed Lamb + Nat 25 + Rookie 26
Reason: Happy to pick up another quality kid, don't mind losing those picks and Lamb to do it.
Quote from: Spinking on October 01, 2012, 06:44:56 PM
Another trade with Scrads:
Titans receive: Tom Scully + Rookie 54
Wolves receive: Jed Lamb + Nat 25 + Rookie 26
Confirmed.
By the way Spink, the Rookie pick you are giving me is 24 not 26 ^^
Quote from: Scrads on October 01, 2012, 10:01:43 PM
By the way Spink, the Rookie pick you are giving me is 24 not 26 ^^
Correct. Sorry Scrads, thanks!
Scrads gives: Rookie Pick 10 + Ibbotson
Lez gives: Rookie Pick 6 + Rookie Pick 25
Quote from: Scrads on October 01, 2012, 10:47:50 PM
Scrads gives: Rookie Pick 10 + Ibbotson
Lez gives: Rookie Pick 6 + Rookie Pick 25
Confirmed. I am happy to give up and upgrade rookie picks in order to get a player in return.
A late night trade between the Stallions and the Bashers again. A friendly partnership is really building here!
Bashers Give - Mitch Morton
Stallions Give - Jasper Pittard, Rookie Pick 39, National Pick 54
Torps to confirm.
Like it ele!
But, Morton :o I think it's just that AFEV's pumped his tyres up so much that I think he's good but really can do without him :P
Quote from: elephants on October 02, 2012, 11:37:56 PM
A late night trade between the Stallions and the Bashers again. A friendly partnership is really building here!
Bashers Give - Mitch Morton
Stallions Give - Jasper Pittard, Rookie Pick 39, National Pick 54
Torps to confirm.
Confirmed. BIG risk but he could turn out the Matthew Wright of 2013! Would be great & give the Stallions a great reputation for recycled players if it happens.
Reasons? I'm bored so I will anyway :P
We want some mid-tier picks and I rate yougn Pittard very highly. Especially with the departures of Ben Jacobs and Troy Chaplin :)
Lol how long did take? I've been chatting with ele for countless hours and still nowhere lol ::)
Hahaha I know right :P
That took about 40 minutes on chat ;)
I seriously think that trade should be blocked it's just ridiculous!
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 03, 2012, 01:33:04 AM
I seriously think that trade should be blocked it's just ridiculous!
+1. Morton is lie equal to Pittard ::)
Quote from: whatlez on October 03, 2012, 01:34:07 AM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 03, 2012, 01:33:04 AM
I seriously think that trade should be blocked it's just ridiculous!
+1. Morton is lie equal to Pittard ::)
Morton hasnt hit potential yet. Sydney need tall fwd Morton kicked goals in gf could become that in 2013
How?
Morton has great JS now after an awesome final series and some excellent impact matches as sub late in the home and away season. Good for 60-80 with the odd 90+!
Nat and Rookie picks are only good if you use them right ::) a lot of it is luck of the draw ;)
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on October 03, 2012, 01:43:28 AM
Quote from: whatlez on October 03, 2012, 01:34:07 AM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 03, 2012, 01:33:04 AM
I seriously think that trade should be blocked it's just ridiculous!
+1. Morton is lie equal to Pittard ::)
Morton hasnt hit potential yet. Sydney need tall fwd Morton kicked goals in gf could become that in 2013
haha mortons only small but you know what i ean
Quote from: elephants on October 02, 2012, 11:37:56 PM
A late night trade between the Stallions and the Bashers again. A friendly partnership is really building here!
Bashers Give - Mitch Morton
Stallions Give - Jasper Pittard, Rookie Pick 39, National Pick 54
Torps to confirm.
Is this a joke :o
Jasper is a very good player, had injuries but way better than Morton! ::)
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 03, 2012, 04:04:41 AM
Quote from: elephants on October 02, 2012, 11:37:56 PM
A late night trade between the Stallions and the Bashers again. A friendly partnership is really building here!
Bashers Give - Mitch Morton
Stallions Give - Jasper Pittard, Rookie Pick 39, National Pick 54
Torps to confirm.
Is this a joke :o
Jasper is a very good player, had injuries but way better than Morton! ::)
If Tbag recons it's one sided, then surely it's one sided... Just check his Asian trades... lol.
If you guys want it to go to vote I will do it.
Settle down Farky ;)
It shouldn't go to a vote.
Lets be honest,we are not smashing him.
We are not decimating his entire team.
We are not putting him our of finals contention next year.
We are satisfying one anothers needs (not dirty) so why should we be punished for that?
The whole idea of trading is so that both teams come out with benefits?
We get some middle-tier picks and a young developing backmen.
Torp gets a premiership player and a forward coming up to his peak!?
What more could you ask for?
Pittard 186cm back pocket at the power, who even tho i support them are shower
Pittard ave 55 in 2011 and 9 in 2012
played sanfl reserves this year and had a string of soft tissue injuries but is young and was a high draft pick
Morton 187cm foward at the premiers, sydney. Currently is in their best 22 as a tall fwd
ave 78 in 2009 at richmond
ave 19 in 2012
had a good finals campaign
Rookie pick 39 is very high in terms of whats on the table. Might score us a rookie listed player at best
National Pick 54 is high as well and yes the draft is string but only up to about pick 20...from pick 20 onwerds its a lucky dip
The trades fair torps gets what he wants we wanted more def cover and a national pick so...
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on October 03, 2012, 05:01:43 PM
Pittard 186cm back pocket at the power, who even tho i support them are shower
Pittard ave 55 in 2011 and 9 in 2012
played sanfl reserves this year and had a string of soft tissue injuries but is young and was a high draft pick
Morton 187cm foward at the premiers, sydney. Currently is in their best 22 as a tall fwd
ave 78 in 2009 at richmond
ave 19 in 2012
had a good finals campaign
Rookie pick 39 is very high in terms of whats on the table. Might score us a rookie listed player at best
National Pick 54 is high as well and yes the draft is string but only up to about pick 20...from pick 20 onwerds its a lucky dip
The trades fair torps gets what he wants we wanted more def cover and a national pick so...
Yeah I don't care. But what I bolded, lol.
Quote from: whatlez on October 03, 2012, 05:05:36 PM
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on October 03, 2012, 05:01:43 PM
Pittard 186cm back pocket at the power, who even tho i support them are shower
Pittard ave 55 in 2011 and 9 in 2012
played sanfl reserves this year and had a string of soft tissue injuries but is young and was a high draft pick
Morton 187cm foward at the premiers, sydney. Currently is in their best 22 as a tall fwd
ave 78 in 2009 at richmond
ave 19 in 2012
had a good finals campaign
Rookie pick 39 is very high in terms of whats on the table. Might score us a rookie listed player at best
National Pick 54 is high as well and yes the draft is string but only up to about pick 20...from pick 20 onwerds its a lucky dip
The trades fair torps gets what he wants we wanted more def cover and a national pick so...
Yeah I don't care. But what I bolded, lol.
what hahaha i meant yeah its called the rookie draft but like magner and neale and co are still avaliable..senior listed players. Pick 39 will get us a player who is on a rookie list atm
You obviously do not know what rookie picks are in the Euros game.
Quote from: elephants on October 03, 2012, 04:59:46 PM
Settle down Farky ;)
It shouldn't go to a vote.
Lets be honest,we are not smashing him.
We are not decimating his entire team.
We are not putting him our of finals contention next year.
We are satisfying one anothers needs (not dirty) so why should we be punished for that?
The whole idea of trading is so that both teams come out with benefits?
We get some middle-tier picks and a young developing backmen.
Torp gets a premiership player and a forward coming up to his peak!?
What more could you ask for?
Agree. Best thing about this comp is that unlike the others, very few trades are blocked. Basically all sorted on Holz common sense which I rate. Part of the fun is trying to negotiate a great trade and unless the trade is really crazy it should stand. In my opinion.
Quote from: whatlez on October 03, 2012, 05:08:17 PM
You obviously do not know what rookie picks are in the Euros game.
Orly?
Quote from: whatlez on October 03, 2012, 05:08:17 PM
You obviously do not know what rookie picks are in the Euros game.
psd picks where we can pick from any player still unlisted
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on October 03, 2012, 05:12:48 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 03, 2012, 05:08:17 PM
You obviously do not know what rookie picks are in the Euros game.
psd picks where we can pick from any player still unlisted
You can pick any player that isn't listed on an European list. So all the available players. There are some decent ones you can get at in the 30's.
Quote from: whatlez on October 03, 2012, 05:14:24 PM
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on October 03, 2012, 05:12:48 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 03, 2012, 05:08:17 PM
You obviously do not know what rookie picks are in the Euros game.
psd picks where we can pick from any player still unlisted
You can pick any player that isn't listed on an European list. So all the available players. There are some decent ones you can get at in the 30's.
what a rookie listed player or a spud kpp who averages 50-60....hahaha psd picks are only valuable if they are top 20
Quote from: whatlez on October 03, 2012, 05:14:24 PM
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on October 03, 2012, 05:12:48 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 03, 2012, 05:08:17 PM
You obviously do not know what rookie picks are in the Euros game.
psd picks where we can pick from any player still unlisted
You can pick any player that isn't listed on an European list. So all the available players. There are some decent ones you can get at in the 30's.
What you rate as decent or what everyone else rates as decent? :P
Gia was DECENT in DT this year wasn't he? ;)
Quote from: elephants on October 03, 2012, 05:20:31 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 03, 2012, 05:14:24 PM
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on October 03, 2012, 05:12:48 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 03, 2012, 05:08:17 PM
You obviously do not know what rookie picks are in the Euros game.
psd picks where we can pick from any player still unlisted
You can pick any player that isn't listed on an European list. So all the available players. There are some decent ones you can get at in the 30's.
What you rate as decent or what everyone else rates as decent? :P
Gia was DECENT in DT this year wasn't he? ;)
There are some youngesters to get at 30's. Who play, but may not score that well... better than ruck donut each week ::) lol :P
Quote from: whatlez on October 03, 2012, 05:22:09 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 03, 2012, 05:20:31 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 03, 2012, 05:14:24 PM
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on October 03, 2012, 05:12:48 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 03, 2012, 05:08:17 PM
You obviously do not know what rookie picks are in the Euros game.
psd picks where we can pick from any player still unlisted
You can pick any player that isn't listed on an European list. So all the available players. There are some decent ones you can get at in the 30's.
What you rate as decent or what everyone else rates as decent? :P
Gia was DECENT in DT this year wasn't he? ;)
There are some youngesters to get at 30's. Who play, but may not score that well... better than ruck donut each week ::) lol :P
hahaha well played lol hahaha well who are these younsgters by any chance *ears prick up*
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on October 03, 2012, 05:25:31 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 03, 2012, 05:22:09 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 03, 2012, 05:20:31 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 03, 2012, 05:14:24 PM
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on October 03, 2012, 05:12:48 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 03, 2012, 05:08:17 PM
You obviously do not know what rookie picks are in the Euros game.
psd picks where we can pick from any player still unlisted
You can pick any player that isn't listed on an European list. So all the available players. There are some decent ones you can get at in the 30's.
What you rate as decent or what everyone else rates as decent? :P
Gia was DECENT in DT this year wasn't he? ;)
There are some youngesters to get at 30's. Who play, but may not score that well... better than ruck donut each week ::) lol :P
hahaha well played lol hahaha well who are these younsgters by any chance *ears prick up*
I want em ::) Hence getting the most Rookie picks...
Quote from: whatlez on October 03, 2012, 05:26:31 PM
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on October 03, 2012, 05:25:31 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 03, 2012, 05:22:09 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 03, 2012, 05:20:31 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 03, 2012, 05:14:24 PM
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on October 03, 2012, 05:12:48 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 03, 2012, 05:08:17 PM
You obviously do not know what rookie picks are in the Euros game.
psd picks where we can pick from any player still unlisted
You can pick any player that isn't listed on an European list. So all the available players. There are some decent ones you can get at in the 30's.
What you rate as decent or what everyone else rates as decent? :P
Gia was DECENT in DT this year wasn't he? ;)
There are some youngesters to get at 30's. Who play, but may not score that well... better than ruck donut each week ::) lol :P
hahaha well played lol hahaha well who are these younsgters by any chance *ears prick up*
I want em ::) Hence getting the most Rookie picks...
well....mmm... how bout rookie pick 30 odd from the torps deal for...mmmm...shuey??
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on October 03, 2012, 05:27:35 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 03, 2012, 05:26:31 PM
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on October 03, 2012, 05:25:31 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 03, 2012, 05:22:09 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 03, 2012, 05:20:31 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 03, 2012, 05:14:24 PM
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on October 03, 2012, 05:12:48 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 03, 2012, 05:08:17 PM
You obviously do not know what rookie picks are in the Euros game.
psd picks where we can pick from any player still unlisted
You can pick any player that isn't listed on an European list. So all the available players. There are some decent ones you can get at in the 30's.
What you rate as decent or what everyone else rates as decent? :P
Gia was DECENT in DT this year wasn't he? ;)
There are some youngesters to get at 30's. Who play, but may not score that well... better than ruck donut each week ::) lol :P
hahaha well played lol hahaha well who are these younsgters by any chance *ears prick up*
I want em ::) Hence getting the most Rookie picks...
well....mmm... how bout rookie pick 30 odd from the torps deal for...mmmm...shuey??
LOLLZZZ
Quote from: Holzman on October 03, 2012, 04:52:29 PM
If you guys want it to go to vote I will do it.
I think it should go to a vote.
I'll probably vote for tbh.
Quote from: whatlez on October 03, 2012, 06:16:31 PM
I'll probably vote for tbh.
For it being passed or blocked?
I dunno what to think of Morton... It's hard to say you should block the trade because Morton has potential to do well again. However, I think it's more likely that Morton will be fair at best making the trade quite one sided.
Quote from: LaHug on October 03, 2012, 07:59:06 PM
I dunno what to think of Morton... It's hard to say you should block the trade because Morton has potential to do well again. However, I think it's more likely that Morton will be fair at best making the trade quite one sided.
the question as it was last time, is it a completely one sided trade where one side robs the over. I think its looks resonably even morton has a history of being a good player. I dont rate pittard that highly and the picks are pretty late so dont have that much value.
For me it looks pretty even and no massively one sided.
why is this even going to a vote... surely there's no issue with this trade? tbags is the only one doging isn't he, and he's not even part of this comp is he? and even then that's only because he sees SA players to be gods or something (dunno why...)
I pass it.
Quote from: Holzman on October 03, 2012, 08:03:59 PM
Quote from: LaHug on October 03, 2012, 07:59:06 PM
I dunno what to think of Morton... It's hard to say you should block the trade because Morton has potential to do well again. However, I think it's more likely that Morton will be fair at best making the trade quite one sided.
the question as it was last time, is it a completely one sided trade where one side robs the over. I think its looks resonably even morton has a history of being a good player. I dont rate pittard that highly and the picks are pretty late so dont have that much value.
For me it looks pretty even and no massively one sided.
Yeah. Because of Morton's potential, it's not massively one sided at all so I think it's fine.
Sweet, everyone happy?
good i would have spat chips if you guys took that off us :)
Well I just think its stupid because you're all saying that Morton had potential but I would say Pittard has even more potential in a position that is harder to find good scorers plus he is younger than Morton. If it was just a straight swap then I reckon that's fine but why do the 2 picks need to be added?
Because Pittard has no history of being a good fantasy scorer while Morton has proven he's more than handy..?
pittards younger, but he's only played like a dozen afl games, and hasn't shown reasonable scoring potential... morton can score, has scored, and performed well enough in finals footy to be starting up round 1. Yeah, morton's older... it's not like he's about to retire though, it just means he's more developed.
also depends on what list issues people have to fix etc. If you've only got 2 forwards, but 8 backs, then a forwards is going to worth a lot more than a 50 avg. back.
BUDDY FRANKLIN IS ON OFFER. PM WITH OFFERS!!!
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on October 03, 2012, 10:12:43 PM
good i would have spat chips if you guys took that off us :)
Haha I don't think I have ever seen you smile hahaha
Quote from: whatlez on October 03, 2012, 10:26:12 PM
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on October 03, 2012, 10:12:43 PM
good i would have spat chips if you guys took that off us :)
Haha I don't think I have ever seen you smile hahaha
+1 Hahahaha
Bashers Give Brodie Smith
Scotland gives Luke Shuey + Pick 6 NAT
Whatlez to confirm
Hahaha
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on October 04, 2012, 12:26:33 AM
Bashers Give Brodie Smith
Scotland gives Luke Shuey + Pick 6 NAT
Whatlez to confirm
Confirmed
It's on record.
On a serious note
Bashers give
Josh Caddy, Jasper Pittard, Nick Suban
Ziplock gives
Pick 4 NAT, Pick 36 NAT, Pick 47 NAT, Pick 35 PSD
Ziplock to confirm
Ummm.. dafuq??
EDIT: that's directed at the Shuey stuff...
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on October 04, 2012, 12:35:37 AM
Quote from: whatlez on October 04, 2012, 12:34:20 AM
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on October 04, 2012, 12:32:41 AM
Quote from: whatlez on October 04, 2012, 12:30:17 AM
Scotland Gives: Picks 6, 22,25 and 26
Scotland Recieve: Rookie Pick 51
Accept
God you win there haha.
Macedonia give:
Nat Pick 25 + Rookie Pick 26
Scotland give:
Rookie Pick 13
whatlez to confirm
Strewth, the trades are flying in tonight!!
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on October 04, 2012, 12:37:33 AM
On a serious note
Bashers give
Josh Caddy, Jasper Pittard, Nick Suban
Ziplock gives
Pick 4 NAT, Pick 36 NAT, Pick 47 NAT, Pick 35 PSD
Ziplock to confirm
confirmed
Quote from: Scrads on October 04, 2012, 12:46:22 AM
Macedonia give:
Nat Pick 25 + Rookie Pick 26
Scotland give:
Rookie Pick 13
whatlez to confirm
Oh yeah, confirmed.
Selwood didnt realise when traded in all the attention is on cotchin, redden & stanton at the club, so has asked to see what he's worth if was on traded.
Is currently in negotiations with a rival club but if interested let me know what you can offer in the way of youth and nat / rookie picks :)
Guys I just noticed Josh J Kennedy isn't on my team list even though I definitely traded him into my team from Elephants.
I'm pretty sure I must have just forgot to put him there but just double checking I didn't on-trade him to anyine else ?
Inb4 'oh you traded him to me for spud/pick 65' jokes :P
Kyal Horsley from Gold Coast is on the table
ave 74.8 in his first season
started with scores of 101, 123, 95, 108 in his first 4 games
Aged 25 mature midfielder
Pendlebury ave 63 in his first year, swan 30, and ablett 37
caddy out of the picture he is well and truly in best 22 at gold coast
Bashers are in the market for a premium midfielder or a top 10 national pick
Horlsey can be moved with a bunch of national picks or an already traded player as we have 1 trade left in our quota
Comparing Horsely's first year with Pendles, Swan and Ablett is the stupidist thing I have ever seen. Pendles and Ablett were 18 in their first years and Swan 19! Not 25 like Horsley!
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 04, 2012, 02:07:18 PM
Comparing Horsely's first year with Pendles, Swan and Ablett is the stupidist thing I have ever seen. Pendles and Ablett were 18 in their first years and Swan 19! Not 25 like Horsley!
like my motto with girls...age is just a number
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 04, 2012, 02:07:18 PM
Comparing Horsely's first year with Pendles, Swan and Ablett is the stupidist thing I have ever seen. Pendles and Ablett were 18 in their first years and Swan 19! Not 25 like Horsley!
What I was about to say. :P Pendles is Horsley's age now!
Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 04, 2012, 02:09:47 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 04, 2012, 02:07:18 PM
Comparing Horsely's first year with Pendles, Swan and Ablett is the stupidist thing I have ever seen. Pendles and Ablett were 18 in their first years and Swan 19! Not 25 like Horsley!
What I was about to say. :P Pendles is Horsley's age now!
he had an ankle injury this year thoo so horsleys ave does not reflect the talent and as seen from mzungu, mature age players can rise their ave after their first season. Horse should really ave 90 this year and thats an honest prediction, but a 90 ave midfielder isnt needed in our team with the starting team we have, so rather then waste that on the bench someone else can make use of that average and we can get what we do need in return
Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 04, 2012, 02:09:47 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 04, 2012, 02:07:18 PM
Comparing Horsely's first year with Pendles, Swan and Ablett is the stupidist thing I have ever seen. Pendles and Ablett were 18 in their first years and Swan 19! Not 25 like Horsley!
What I was about to say. :P Pendles is Horsley's age now!
torp please come on chat ive exceeded pms for the hour
who s interested in national picks
me and torps are selling national picks and we are looking for a buddy to have a threesome with three way deal with
inbox meh or reply here and il pm you a 3 way deal
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 04, 2012, 02:07:18 PM
Comparing Horsely's first year with Pendles, Swan and Ablett is the stupidist thing I have ever seen. Pendles and Ablett were 18 in their first years and Swan 19! Not 25 like Horsley!
not just that but DT socres have lifted dramitically in the last few years. I remember when Bartel was the number 1 player in DT pumping out a 110 and we were all amazed that he got 100+ most weeks. Now if a premium puts up a score around 100 we call them a spud.
Trades updated
Holz I have Rookie Pick 6 and 24
And whatlez has 10.
And I have 25 and13 and whatlez has 26.
6. Scrads
10. whatlez
13. Scrads
24. Scrads
25 Scrads
26. whatlez
Oh wait I just noticed you haven't updated the draft yet, oops =S
Quote from: Scrads on October 04, 2012, 04:51:24 PM
Oh wait I just noticed you haven't updated the draft yet, oops =S
updated now
For the later trade with the Bashers, can you change it to Rookie 35, not PSD?
I've probably harassed everyone enough with these guys, but I'll have one last go.
I want to move on: Brad Sewell, Jarrod Brennan, Simon Black, Joel Corey, Daniel Giansiracusa, Troy Chaplin
I'm only looking for kids / picks in return. Won't be high priced. Please make an offer!
I am putting Rookie Draft picks:
10, 11, 12, 16, 19, 20, 25, 26 and Sharrod Wellingham on the market, to gain a decent forward.
And Luke Shuey if the right deal comes up ;)
Quote from: whatlez on October 04, 2012, 12:30:17 AM
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on October 04, 2012, 12:26:33 AM
Bashers Give Brodie Smith
Scotland gives Luke Shuey + Pick 6 NAT
Whatlez to confirm
Confirmed
If that is a serious trade, put to a vote ::).
Quote from: Spinking on October 04, 2012, 09:03:58 PM
I've probably harassed everyone enough with these guys, but I'll have one last go.
I want to move on: Brad Sewell, Jarrod Brennan, Simon Black, Joel Corey, Daniel Giansiracusa, Troy Chaplin
I'm only looking for kids / picks in return. Won't be high priced. Please make an offer!
chaplin im keen on now he is at tigers :p
ill give you pick 41 nat for the lot :)
Valkyries give: Nat 61
Bisons give: Setana O'hailpin
LH to confirm
Quote from: Ziplock on October 04, 2012, 09:52:26 PM
Valkyries give: Nat 61
Bisons give: Setana O'hailpin
LH to confirm
For some reason I thought it was the rookie pick you were offering...
I'll still take the trade.
Reason: We were going to delist him anyway and nobody offered me better.
lol Zip.
Quote from: whatlez on October 04, 2012, 09:14:48 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on October 04, 2012, 09:13:05 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 04, 2012, 12:30:17 AM
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on October 04, 2012, 12:26:33 AM
Bashers Give Brodie Smith
Scotland gives Luke Shuey + Pick 6 NAT
Whatlez to confirm
Confirmed
If that is a serious trade, put to a vote ::).
Yeah wtf, Holz edited ::)
Id never accept to that that is so in ur fav its not funny
I think it's pretty fair.
Brodie smith is a gun backman, shuey is a mediocre mid, so nat 6 just evens it out.
Quote from: Ziplock on October 04, 2012, 11:12:38 PM
I think it's pretty fair.
Brodie smith is a gun backman, shuey is a mediocre mid, so nat 6 just evens it out.
Yep, fair call.
Quote from: whatlez on October 04, 2012, 09:08:44 PM
I am putting Rookie Draft picks:
10, 11, 12, 16, 19, 20, 25, 26 and Sharrod Wellingham on the market, to gain a decent forward.
And Luke Shuey if the right deal comes up ;)
Just so you know, that is my pick :P
all the more reason for him to trade it :P
Quote from: Ziplock on October 05, 2012, 01:32:33 AM
all the more reason for him to trade it :P
I lol'd ;D
I've already traded it :P
Ok new plan. I am willing to give up some of my 20's picks in both Nat and Rookie to get extra picks in the rookie.
So e.g. Pick 22 in Nat for 2 picks in rookie at around 30-45.
Also wanting to trade Pick 56 in Nat.
I'll trade it for about the same value in the rookie.
So essentially pick 56 in Nat for pick 50-65 in Rookie. Post here without PM if you are keen.
DUE TO POPULAR DEMAND THERE WILL BE A SECOND TRADE PEIROD
8th - 21st February: 2nd Trade Period
max of 4 player movements with each trade 1 for 1 / 2 for 2 etc...
Quote from: Holzman on October 05, 2012, 03:21:55 AM
DUE TO POPULAR DEMAND THERE WILL BE A SECOND TRADE PEIROD
8th - 21st February: 2nd Trade Period
max of 4 player movements with each trade 1 for 1 / 2 for 2 etc...
good work holz
Scotland give - Hurn + rookie 20 + 26
Trolls give - Ballantyne + rookie 29,30,37,43,44
I rate Hurn and wanted earlier rookie picks. Lez to confirm 8)
Quote from: picker_man on October 05, 2012, 04:51:18 PM
Scotland give - Hurn + rookie 20 + 26
Trolls give - Ballantyne + rookie 29,30,37,43,44
I rate Hurn and wanted earlier rookie picks. Lez to confirm 8)
Confirm. I want later rookie picks and lots of them haha. Also Balla would be a good F4.
The Rookie draft has just had a name change.
Its now called: Whatlez's Squad.
Scotland is now called 'we don't have a defensive line'
Quote from: Ziplock on October 05, 2012, 05:03:55 PM
Scotland is now called 'we don't have a defensive line'
Coming from 'Tony Armstrong D4'
Quote from: Ziplock on October 05, 2012, 05:03:55 PM
Scotland is now called 'we don't have a defensive line'
Hahahahaha lmao ;D
Quote from: whatlez on October 05, 2012, 05:20:09 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on October 05, 2012, 05:03:55 PM
Scotland is now called 'we don't have a defensive line'
Coming from 'Tony Armstrong D4'
LoL!! Lez has plenty of good rookie picks should make a real solid defensive line with those picks and grima + ibbotson i reckon.
Quote from: picker_man on October 05, 2012, 05:36:49 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 05, 2012, 05:20:09 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on October 05, 2012, 05:03:55 PM
Scotland is now called 'we don't have a defensive line'
Coming from 'Tony Armstrong D4'
LoL!! Lez has plenty of good rookie picks should make a real solid defensive line with those picks and grima + ibbotson i reckon.
Yeah the Rookie Draft is 60% defenders. And Zip this is the best Draft since 2001 and your top and only pick is pick 61 or someshower lolol.
I don't have any picks now ;)
Trade between Greece and Belarus:
Greece Gives: Troy Chaplin + Pick 54 Rookie + Pick 66 Rookie
Belarus Gives: Pick 21 Rookie + Pick 49 Rookie + Pick 63 Rookie
Chaplin to hopefully improve this year, but doesn't fit with our youth policy. We can pick up a good kid with Rookie 21.
Damn I should of bidded for Chaplin.
Confirmed. Like Chaplin's potential with a new club and a defender is who we were going to use picks on anyway.
Trade between the Titans and the Trolls
Trolls receive: B Sewell + Pick 33 Rookie Draft + Pick 34 Rookie Draft + Pick 49 Rookie Draft
Titans receive: Pick 26 Rookie Draft + Pick 27 Rookie Draft + Pick 41 Rookie Draft + Pick 52 Rookie Draft
Reason: Sewell not part of our youth strategy. Get some picks that can help us get the kids we are after.
Quote from: Spinking on October 06, 2012, 08:08:47 PM
Trade between the Titans and the Trolls
Trolls receive: B Sewell + Pick 33 Rookie Draft + Pick 34 Rookie Draft + Pick 49 Rookie Draft
Titans receive: Pick 26 Rookie Draft + Pick 27 Rookie Draft + Pick 41 Rookie Draft + Pick 52 Rookie Draft
Reason: Sewell not part of our youth strategy. Get some picks that can help us get the kids we are after.
Sewell will be very useful for 2-3 years. Confirmed
Quote from: picker_man on October 06, 2012, 08:11:48 PM
Quote from: Spinking on October 06, 2012, 08:08:47 PM
Trade between the Titans and the Trolls
Trolls receive: B Sewell + Pick 33 Rookie Draft + Pick 34 Rookie Draft + Pick 49 Rookie Draft
Titans receive: Pick 26 Rookie Draft + Pick 27 Rookie Draft + Pick 41 Rookie Draft + Pick 52 Rookie Draft
Reason: Sewell not part of our youth strategy. Get some picks that can help us get the kids we are after.
Sewell will be very useful for 2-3 years. Confirmed
dam heaps of picks.
Quote from: Holzman on October 06, 2012, 09:05:40 PM
Quote from: picker_man on October 06, 2012, 08:11:48 PM
Quote from: Spinking on October 06, 2012, 08:08:47 PM
Trade between the Titans and the Trolls
Trolls receive: B Sewell + Pick 33 Rookie Draft + Pick 34 Rookie Draft + Pick 49 Rookie Draft
Titans receive: Pick 26 Rookie Draft + Pick 27 Rookie Draft + Pick 41 Rookie Draft + Pick 52 Rookie Draft
Reason: Sewell not part of our youth strategy. Get some picks that can help us get the kids we are after.
Sewell will be very useful for 2-3 years. Confirmed
dam heaps of picks.
Sorry mate! :-\
Just make sure the draft is on for a convenient time for spinking and I, as we are pretty much the only ones drafting :P
hawka and lez as well :P
Was that a joke Spite? haha
Trade picks with scrads
Wolves give: rookie 40 + national 35,55
Trolls give: rookie 23
Quote from: picker_man on October 07, 2012, 08:31:03 PM
Trade picks with scrads
Wolves give: rookie 40 + national 35,55
Trolls give: rookie 23
accepted :)
Reasons?
Quote from: whatlez on October 07, 2012, 08:57:35 PM
Reasons?
I will definitely not be using all my picks so trading late ones I won't use for an early one I will use is a big bonus.
Pickers can post his own reason but he said to me it is because he will need to draft a lot of bench players.
Yep as Scrads said i need a new bench so wanted a few more later picks better then delisting ones
If you want a gun NAT pick PM me.
But only really selling pick 56 :P
The Titans have almost completed our rebuilding process, introducing a number of quality youngsters, and dramatically reducing the average age of its list. Prior to the trade window the Titans had 7 players under 22 - we now have 20.
We now wish to finish off our trade window. We only have one list movement remaining in this period and want to use it to move along one of our 4 remaining elder statesmen.
We want to trade one of the following for a kid, draft pick, or pick upgrade.
Daniel Giansiracusa
Joel Corey
Jarrod Brennan
Simon Black
Please help us to find one of these quality older players a home by suggesting a trade. Cheers!
Jared*
But yeah I'll buy lol
Best offer so far is Nat 55.
Pick 56* Or did someone match my offer? lol.
I'll go a 3 way offer to get Jared. I'll give someone a highish rookie pick and they give Spink a NAT pick in the 40's and i'll get Jared :D ;D
Thanks all those who made bids to help me make my final trade. The competition helped me to put together a great deal with Whatlez.
Scotland Recieves: Jared Brennan
Greece Recieves: Pick 37 Rook + Pick 48 Rook
Reason: move on one of my last remaining oldies, need those picks!
Here are some of the things on the table currently for the wolves:
Nat 12
Rookie 13, 23, 24, 25
Hibberd, Gram, Guerra, Vardy, Gorringe.
Let us know if anything interests you and we can try and work something out :)
Scrads trades: Gram + Rookie 25
Pickers trades: Foley + Rookie 33
Pickers to confirm.
confirmed
Quote from: Spinking on October 10, 2012, 09:25:55 PM
Thanks all those who made bids to help me make my final trade. The competition helped me to put together a great deal with Whatlez.
Scotland Recieves: Jared Brennan
Greece Recieves: Pick 37 Rook + Pick 48 Rook
Reason: move on one of my last remaining oldies, need those picks!
Confirmed lol. Damn it HP >:( lol :P
Scrads gives:
Hibberd + Petrenko + Rohan + Rookie 13
Lez gives:
Hartlett + Rookie 10 + Rookie 30 + Nat 56
Lez to confirm.
Quote from: Scrads on October 11, 2012, 01:15:19 AM
Scrads gives:
Hibberd + Petrenko + Rohan + Rookie 13
Lez gives:
Hartlett + Rookie 10 + Rookie 30 + Nat 56
Lez to confirm.
Confirm. Gains players in the positions needed. Loses Hartlett, but bad luck...
The big deciding factor with that trade will be Hartlett's eligibility. If he is a Defender then it is a really good trade but if he is mid-only then a HUGE win to you :-\
I am 99% sure he will be a defender though.
:s at being defender...
Robin Nahas + Nat 36 + Rook 39
For
Rook 5
Whatto to confirm.
Quote from: elephants on October 11, 2012, 01:30:52 AM
Robin Nahas + Nat 36 + Rook 39
For
Rook 5
Whatto to confirm.
After weeks of negotiating, I accept lol ::)
Reason: Nahas is our 8th fwd and those picks get us a handy rookie selection :)
8th mid my arse. 5th or 6th at min.
We rate him behind...
Robbo, Clancee, Wright, Blair then Varcoe, Lynch and Jpod are better depth ;)
Sorry dude, trade is confirmed 8)
When I saw Jpod. I knew this guy was joking hahaha
He averaged more than Nahas last year Hahahaha
Games played is the key ;)
The wolves are interested in packaging up any combination of:
Morris, Reid, Wilkes, Mzungu, Savage, Vardy, Gorringe, Callinan, Lamb, Nat 12, Rookie 23,24,30,33
Fora ny combination of a Gun or a Top 10 rookie Pick :)
All I can say is that Euros is still alive!!! :)
Score!
Trade swap with HP
Iceland get: Picks 39 Nat, 50 Nat , 53 Nat
Greece gets: Pick 22 Rook
We value rookie picks above Nat. Can get an extra quality player with that pick.
I'll give you some rookie picks for Nat picks if they are about equal :)
Quote from: Spinking on October 11, 2012, 08:48:42 PM
Trade swap with HP
Iceland get: Picks 39 Nat, 50 Nat , 53 Nat
Greece gets: Pick 22 Rook
We value rookie picks above Nat. Can get an extra quality player with that pick.
Accepted: Could use with the Nat picks for youngsters and didn't have any plans for that Rookie pick.
Holz sorry for being rude, but we need an update. Last update was 5 days ago and I think I have made 3-4 trades...
Quote from: whatlez on October 11, 2012, 09:04:32 PM
Holz sorry for being rude, but we need an update. Last update was 5 days ago and I think I have made 3-4 trades...
sure thing. Just sorting out the meow issue but it will be done within the hour.
All done, soo many pick trades. Im sure i have made a mistake at some stage.
Ok thanks Holz :)
Now you have to change it to JB/Nails :o
do we have a list of everyones list movements?
I know lez and spink have used theirs...
I've had 1 :P
Think we have had 14?
I have used 15, but I want players back lol.
Pickers has used 15 I think...
if you get players back does it drop your list movement count ? :P
Quote from: Ziplock on October 12, 2012, 12:38:52 AM
if you get players back does it drop your list movement count ? :P
Nah. I had Gary Rohan and now have him back lol. So went to 14 then traded Hartlett so back to 15...
its been pretty quiet lately but we have worked through a long awaited trade with whatlez
Pick 15 nat for Luke Shuey
lez to confirm
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on October 15, 2012, 10:50:05 PM
its been pretty quiet lately but we have worked through a long awaited trade with whatlez
Pick 15 nat for Luke Shuey
lez to confirm
really a long awaited trade?
that does not seem that complex :P
its taken a long time to get to that to make sure both parties are happy
Haven't had a trade in a long time.
Me neither :(
You should trade me shuey lol
Quote from: whatlez on October 17, 2012, 02:17:08 PM
Haven't had a trade in a long time.
No problem with that there is no point trading for the sake of trading. Next year the trading period will be much shorter and will have a stricter cap. Teams seem set at the moment so why trade.
If i can get an earlyish pick il trade to get it but im pree much set
Pick 6 is off the table, but pick 13 is going for the right price.
If anyone needs a ruckman, I can trade Sandi :)
whatlez ill give you pick 5 rook for sandi then hawka pick 4 and 15 nat for pick 1
I'll take Nat pick 4 for Sandi.
New photo?
Quote from: whatlez on October 17, 2012, 07:30:46 PM
Pick 6 is off the table, but pick 13 is going for the right price.
If anyone needs a ruckman, I can trade Sandi :)
I am open to trading Nat 12 :P
Folks if you have any young kids on the outer, or even blokes you were thinking of delisting, let me know and I might be willing to trade a pick for them. Obviously focusing on youth, so nobody over 22 please.
Fraser McInnes, Corey Gault, Simon Tunbridge, Tom Curran, Alex Silvangi
Like any of them haha.
Quote from: whatlez on October 18, 2012, 09:15:43 PM
Fraser McInnes, Corey Gault, Simon Tunbridge, Tom Curran, Alex Silvangi
Like any of them haha.
our last rookie pick for silvagni?
I am still up for trading!
Heath Hocking, Robert Warnock and Leigh Adams all on the trade block.
bashers looking for pick upgrades can offer
rookie picks 35, 39, 52, 69
for a top 20 nat pick or top 15 rookie pick
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on October 22, 2012, 03:03:24 PM
bashers looking for pick upgrades can offer
rookie picks 35, 39, 52, 69
for a top 20 nat pick or top 15 rookie pick
nobody would be spastic enough to do that trade.
all those picks together wouldn't be worth a top 20 nat pick, and maybe just a top 20 rookie.
Quote from: Ziplock on October 22, 2012, 08:47:25 PM
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on October 22, 2012, 03:03:24 PM
bashers looking for pick upgrades can offer
rookie picks 35, 39, 52, 69
for a top 20 nat pick or top 15 rookie pick
nobody would be spastic enough to do that trade.
all those picks together wouldn't be worth a top 20 nat pick, and maybe just a top 20 rookie.
The fark is just dilutional
Quote from: whatlez on October 22, 2012, 08:49:53 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on October 22, 2012, 08:47:25 PM
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on October 22, 2012, 03:03:24 PM
bashers looking for pick upgrades can offer
rookie picks 35, 39, 52, 69
for a top 20 nat pick or top 15 rookie pick
nobody would be spastic enough to do that trade.
all those picks together wouldn't be worth a top 20 nat pick, and maybe just a top 20 rookie.
The fark is just dilutional
whatevs just putting em out there, people might need to fill their list
then, they have the picks at the end of the rookie draft for that.
The trade proposals that I have gotten fark are ridiculous. They are heavily one sided everytime.
Quote from: whatlez on October 22, 2012, 10:27:55 PM
The trade proposals that I have gotten fark are ridiculous. They are heavily one sided everytime.
rookie 35 for shuey seems fair. You never know what rookie 35 might bring. Clancee Pearce was our last pick in last years draft look at him now :p
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on October 22, 2012, 10:32:40 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 22, 2012, 10:27:55 PM
The trade proposals that I have gotten fark are ridiculous. They are heavily one sided everytime.
rookie 35 for shuey seems fair. You never know what rookie 35 might bring. Clancee Pearce was our last pick in last years draft look at him now :p
That offer was a joke yeh?
he offered me carrazzo and rookie 9 for murphy.
this is why I talk to ric.
I like FARK but I couldn't believe he even tried to offer me Nat 61 + Rookie Picks 9 + 35 for Hamish Hartlett and Nathan Vardy.
Quote from: Scrads on October 22, 2012, 11:32:25 PM
I like FARK but I couldn't believe he even tried to offer me Nat 61 + Rookie Picks 9 + 35 for Hamish Hartlett and Nathan Vardy.
He Tried to get Vardy off me ad I don't even have him ::)
Hahahahahaha ;D
Quote from: Scrads on October 22, 2012, 11:32:25 PM
I like FARK but I couldn't believe he even tried to offer me Nat 61 + Rookie Picks 9 + 35 for Hamish Hartlett and Nathan Vardy.
gotta risk it to get the biscuit. hartletts a spud anyways
and lez i offered you a ripper of a deal just then...
I was getting 5 players to 1 lose. Lol
yeah and it was fair
birchall carrazo hmac blair varcoe moloney rook 5 and rook 9 are all avaliable for trade we would require a 110+ av player in a deal pm me with enquiries
What's the point. You will eventually PM me haha.
Quote from: whatlez on October 23, 2012, 12:07:18 AM
Quote from: Scrads on October 22, 2012, 11:32:25 PM
I like FARK but I couldn't believe he even tried to offer me Nat 61 + Rookie Picks 9 + 35 for Hamish Hartlett and Nathan Vardy.
He Tried to get Vardy off me ad I don't even have him ::)
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA ;D ;D ;D.
Haha glad im not the only one. Good old FARK, Weve been chattin for ages (like 2 months) trying to get a deal done ive also had some crackin offers along the way
Moloney + rookie 2 + 9 + 35 for Cotchin + Selwood
Podsiadlly + varcoe + rookie 9 for Selwood + nat 35
moloney / horsley + rookie9 and 35 for selwood
He's one tough negotiator
*has it been confirmed we are having a 2nd trade period?? About to start negotiations with a coach but prolly best i get it confirmed first :)
Quote from: picker_man on October 23, 2012, 06:17:32 PM
Haha glad im not the only one. Good old FARK, Weve been chattin for ages (like 2 months) trying to get a deal done ive also had some crackin offers along the way
Moloney + rookie 2 + 9 + 35 for Cotchin + Selwood
Podsiadlly + varcoe + rookie 9 for Selwood + nat 35
moloney / horsley + rookie9 and 35 for selwood
He's one tough negotiator
*has it been confirmed we are having a 2nd trade period?? About to start negotiations with a coach but prolly best i get it confirmed first :)
some cracking deals there.
There is a second trade period but its capped to only 4 player movements.
Quote from: Holzman on October 23, 2012, 06:27:13 PM
Quote from: picker_man on October 23, 2012, 06:17:32 PM
Haha glad im not the only one. Good old FARK, Weve been chattin for ages (like 2 months) trying to get a deal done ive also had some crackin offers along the way
Moloney + rookie 2 + 9 + 35 for Cotchin + Selwood
Podsiadlly + varcoe + rookie 9 for Selwood + nat 35
moloney / horsley + rookie9 and 35 for selwood
He's one tough negotiator
*has it been confirmed we are having a 2nd trade period?? About to start negotiations with a coach but prolly best i get it confirmed first :)
some cracking deals there.
There is a second trade period but its capped to only 4 player movements.
Is there an official date for list submission for before the drafts ?
Awesome thanks Holz :)
Quote from: Scrads on October 23, 2012, 06:31:42 PM
Quote from: Holzman on October 23, 2012, 06:27:13 PM
Quote from: picker_man on October 23, 2012, 06:17:32 PM
Haha glad im not the only one. Good old FARK, Weve been chattin for ages (like 2 months) trying to get a deal done ive also had some crackin offers along the way
Moloney + rookie 2 + 9 + 35 for Cotchin + Selwood
Podsiadlly + varcoe + rookie 9 for Selwood + nat 35
moloney / horsley + rookie9 and 35 for selwood
He's one tough negotiator
*has it been confirmed we are having a 2nd trade period?? About to start negotiations with a coach but prolly best i get it confirmed first :)
some cracking deals there.
There is a second trade period but its capped to only 4 player movements.
Is there an official date for list submission for before the drafts ?
11:59PM AEST the day before the first real afl draft.
Hahaha, best thing is that most of these deals are new news to me ;D
Torp's deals are worse than Fark's atm haah.
Quote from: whatlez on October 23, 2012, 09:04:40 PM
Torp's deals are worse than Fark's atm haah.
Surely not!?
Quote from: whatlez on October 23, 2012, 09:04:40 PM
Torp's deals are worse than Fark's atm haah.
They aren't. ::)
Quote from: picker_man on October 23, 2012, 06:17:32 PM
Haha glad im not the only one. Good old FARK, Weve been chattin for ages (like 2 months) trying to get a deal done ive also had some crackin offers along the way
Moloney + rookie 2 + 9 + 35 for Cotchin + Selwood
Podsiadlly + varcoe + rookie 9 for Selwood + nat 35
moloney / horsley + rookie9 and 35 for selwood
He's one tough negotiator
*has it been confirmed we are having a 2nd trade period?? About to start negotiations with a coach but prolly best i get it confirmed first :)
never offered this you said you wanted an experienced fwd so i said i can offer pods or varcoe or blair
i.e moloney + fwd + pick 9 for selwood
you said no
Quote from: Scrads on October 24, 2012, 01:13:22 AM
Quote from: whatlez on October 24, 2012, 12:56:45 AM
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on October 23, 2012, 11:54:57 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 23, 2012, 09:15:00 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 23, 2012, 09:04:40 PM
Torp's deals are worse than Fark's atm haah.
They aren't. ::)
hahaha
kade simpson for pick 4 nat hahahaha
I've had similar.
I got Simpson + Vickery + Duugan for Pick 5 haha
I got that except it's pick 6 lol
haha he tried telling me that some percent of top 10 players go on to ave 80 while the best draft ever in 2001 saw top 10 picks ave
blah blah haha well tried torps
i wuldnt do pick 4 for heppell
I thought he offered me Simpson and pick 11 for pick 6.
Turns out it was Simpson and Pick 11 for Pick 6 and 13 ::)
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on October 24, 2012, 12:01:00 AM
Quote from: picker_man on October 23, 2012, 06:17:32 PM
Haha glad im not the only one. Good old FARK, Weve been chattin for ages (like 2 months) trying to get a deal done ive also had some crackin offers along the way
Moloney + rookie 2 + 9 + 35 for Cotchin + Selwood
Podsiadlly + varcoe + rookie 9 for Selwood + nat 35
moloney / horsley + rookie9 and 35 for selwood
He's one tough negotiator
*has it been confirmed we are having a 2nd trade period?? About to start negotiations with a coach but prolly best i get it confirmed first :)
never offered this you said you wanted an experienced fwd so i said i can offer pods or varcoe or blair
i.e moloney + fwd + pick 9 for selwood
you said no
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on October 22, 2012, 08:52:20 PM
Quote from: picker_man on October 22, 2012, 08:51:17 PM
well can do podsiadlly or moloney + rook 9 + varcoe for selwood + pick 35 nat
Maybe i cant read properly wouldnt surprise me ;D but prietty sure that says pods + rookie 9 + varcoe for selwood + nat 35......
Apolagise you did say or moloney but he's in nearly every offer you send me :P
I dont care i love talkin trades but yeah you did send me it ;)
Quote from: picker_man on October 24, 2012, 03:56:18 PM
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on October 24, 2012, 12:01:00 AM
Quote from: picker_man on October 23, 2012, 06:17:32 PM
Haha glad im not the only one. Good old FARK, Weve been chattin for ages (like 2 months) trying to get a deal done ive also had some crackin offers along the way
Moloney + rookie 2 + 9 + 35 for Cotchin + Selwood
Podsiadlly + varcoe + rookie 9 for Selwood + nat 35
moloney / horsley + rookie9 and 35 for selwood
He's one tough negotiator
*has it been confirmed we are having a 2nd trade period?? About to start negotiations with a coach but prolly best i get it confirmed first :)
never offered this you said you wanted an experienced fwd so i said i can offer pods or varcoe or blair
i.e moloney + fwd + pick 9 for selwood
you said no
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on October 22, 2012, 08:52:20 PM
Quote from: picker_man on October 22, 2012, 08:51:17 PM
well can do podsiadlly or moloney + rook 9 + varcoe for selwood + pick 35 nat
Maybe i cant read properly wouldnt surprise me ;D but prietty sure that says pods + rookie 9 + varcoe for selwood + nat 35......
Apolagise you did say or moloney but he's in nearly every offer you send me :P
I dont care i love talkin trades but yeah you did send me it ;)
well you said you are looking for an experienced fwd i said we could do varcoe and you said meh then i said well can do pods as in reference to the ast deal, then offered you a new deal
oh well at least torps is trying to do trades
in saying that can someone please flowering give us a flowering midfielder who ave 100+
flooooooooooooooower
I have put birchall carrazo hmac top 10 rookie picks moloney horsley ect ect all out there with nothing
I said older gun fwd..... Podsiadlly ::)
Ive done plenty of trades just not ones were someones trying to rip me off :P
Quote from: picker_man on October 24, 2012, 04:02:41 PM
I said older gun fwd..... Podsiadlly ::)
Ive done plenty of trades just not ones were someones trying to rip me off :P
all good man haha i was just offereing what i had...
btw check ur pms
So Fark owns the team now ???
whhhhhhhhhy!!! I was on fire
I think Holz just deleted both our posts anyway, Cause that is just so inappropriate. ::)
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on October 24, 2012, 03:59:02 PM
Quote from: picker_man on October 24, 2012, 03:56:18 PM
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on October 24, 2012, 12:01:00 AM
Quote from: picker_man on October 23, 2012, 06:17:32 PM
Haha glad im not the only one. Good old FARK, Weve been chattin for ages (like 2 months) trying to get a deal done ive also had some crackin offers along the way
Moloney + rookie 2 + 9 + 35 for Cotchin + Selwood
Podsiadlly + varcoe + rookie 9 for Selwood + nat 35
moloney / horsley + rookie9 and 35 for selwood
He's one tough negotiator
*has it been confirmed we are having a 2nd trade period?? About to start negotiations with a coach but prolly best i get it confirmed first :)
never offered this you said you wanted an experienced fwd so i said i can offer pods or varcoe or blair
i.e moloney + fwd + pick 9 for selwood
you said no
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on October 22, 2012, 08:52:20 PM
Quote from: picker_man on October 22, 2012, 08:51:17 PM
well can do podsiadlly or moloney + rook 9 + varcoe for selwood + pick 35 nat
Maybe i cant read properly wouldnt surprise me ;D but prietty sure that says pods + rookie 9 + varcoe for selwood + nat 35......
Apolagise you did say or moloney but he's in nearly every offer you send me :P
I dont care i love talkin trades but yeah you did send me it ;)
well you said you are looking for an experienced fwd i said we could do varcoe and you said meh then i said well can do pods as in reference to the ast deal, then offered you a new deal
oh well at least torps is trying to do trades
in saying that can someone please flowering give us a flowering midfielder who ave 100+
flooooooooooooooower
I have put birchall carrazo hmac top 10 rookie picks moloney horsley ect ect all out there with nothing
Daniel cross for birchall
carrazzo is old + mid only, horsely, moloney are average. Hmac injury prone.
really only leaves birch of real value :P
Yeah what was it?? :( lol
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 24, 2012, 07:36:47 PM
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on October 24, 2012, 03:59:02 PM
Quote from: picker_man on October 24, 2012, 03:56:18 PM
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on October 24, 2012, 12:01:00 AM
Quote from: picker_man on October 23, 2012, 06:17:32 PM
Haha glad im not the only one. Good old FARK, Weve been chattin for ages (like 2 months) trying to get a deal done ive also had some crackin offers along the way
Moloney + rookie 2 + 9 + 35 for Cotchin + Selwood
Podsiadlly + varcoe + rookie 9 for Selwood + nat 35
moloney / horsley + rookie9 and 35 for selwood
He's one tough negotiator
*has it been confirmed we are having a 2nd trade period?? About to start negotiations with a coach but prolly best i get it confirmed first :)
never offered this you said you wanted an experienced fwd so i said i can offer pods or varcoe or blair
i.e moloney + fwd + pick 9 for selwood
you said no
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on October 22, 2012, 08:52:20 PM
Quote from: picker_man on October 22, 2012, 08:51:17 PM
well can do podsiadlly or moloney + rook 9 + varcoe for selwood + pick 35 nat
Maybe i cant read properly wouldnt surprise me ;D but prietty sure that says pods + rookie 9 + varcoe for selwood + nat 35......
Apolagise you did say or moloney but he's in nearly every offer you send me :P
I dont care i love talkin trades but yeah you did send me it ;)
well you said you are looking for an experienced fwd i said we could do varcoe and you said meh then i said well can do pods as in reference to the ast deal, then offered you a new deal
oh well at least torps is trying to do trades
in saying that can someone please flowering give us a flowering midfielder who ave 100+
flooooooooooooooower
I have put birchall carrazo hmac top 10 rookie picks moloney horsley ect ect all out there with nothing
Daniel cross for birchall
stevens at wb how will this effect his role. soory no thanks birchall def ave 90 mark cross ave just a shade under 100 and is older...we want 100+ av mids
Hayes?
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 25, 2012, 01:19:03 AM
Hayes?
hayes is old. im interested in watson or thompson. maybe boak but not straight for birchall
Or some bloke called Ablett. Kind of a unique though, ever heard of him?
Quote from: elephants on October 25, 2012, 02:30:07 AM
Or some bloke called Ablett. Kind of a unique though, ever heard of him?
Nathan?
What happens Holz if Tippett gets de-registered for a year ? :(
Quote from: Scrads on October 25, 2012, 03:38:56 PM
What happens Holz if Tippett gets de-registered for a year ? :(
I would personally vote that he stays on your team list, but takes up a spot so you'll effectively have a squad 1 player short.... for the euros I think it should just be treated like a years suspension.
or you could delist him. :P
Quote from: Ziplock on October 25, 2012, 06:29:16 PM
Quote from: Scrads on October 25, 2012, 03:38:56 PM
What happens Holz if Tippett gets de-registered for a year ? :(
I would personally vote that he stays on your team list, but takes up a spot so you'll effectively have a squad 1 player short.... for the euros I think it should just be treated like a years suspension.
or you could delist him. :P
It seems harsh but I tend to agree.
If moloney is going to ave 90 cause he's goin to the lions then Rodan will ave 100 now he's of to the demons FARK so
Rodan for Birchall ;)
Quote from: picker_man on October 25, 2012, 06:48:35 PM
If moloney is going to ave 90 cause he's goin to the lions then Rodan will ave 100 now he's of to the demons FARK so
Rodan for Birchall ;)
Your theory is so very flawed haha.
Rodan best average = 71 (two knee reco's since then)
Moloney best average = 88.4 (also has 81, 88 and 85 over the past 4 years.
Rodan moving down from 14th placed club (Port) to 16th placed club (Dees).
Moloney moving up from 16th placed club (Dees) to 13th placed club (Lions).
Rodan hasn't played a full season since 2008.
Moloney played every match in 2011.
Rodan is 30 next year.
Moloney is 29.
They're incomparable mate hahaha!
Quote from: elephants on October 25, 2012, 07:48:44 PM
Quote from: picker_man on October 25, 2012, 06:48:35 PM
If moloney is going to ave 90 cause he's goin to the lions then Rodan will ave 100 now he's of to the demons FARK so
Rodan for Birchall ;)
Your theory is so very flawed haha.
Rodan best average = 71 (two knee reco's since then)
Moloney best average = 88.4 (also has 81, 88 and 85 over the past 4 years.
Rodan moving down from 14th placed club (Port) to 16th placed club (Dees).
Moloney moving up from 16th placed club (Dees) to 13th placed club (Lions).
Rodan hasn't played a full season since 2008.
Moloney played every match in 2011.
Rodan is 30 next year.
Moloney is 29.
They're incomparable mate hahaha!
But you just compared them ::)
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 25, 2012, 07:53:13 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 25, 2012, 07:48:44 PM
Quote from: picker_man on October 25, 2012, 06:48:35 PM
If moloney is going to ave 90 cause he's goin to the lions then Rodan will ave 100 now he's of to the demons FARK so
Rodan for Birchall ;)
Your theory is so very flawed haha.
Rodan best average = 71 (two knee reco's since then)
Moloney best average = 88.4 (also has 81, 88 and 85 over the past 4 years.
Rodan moving down from 14th placed club (Port) to 16th placed club (Dees).
Moloney moving up from 16th placed club (Dees) to 13th placed club (Lions).
Rodan hasn't played a full season since 2008.
Moloney played every match in 2011.
Rodan is 30 next year.
Moloney is 29.
They're incomparable mate hahaha!
But you just compared them ::)
But clearly Moloney is far superior so what's the point? I only did it to show Pickers how pointless it is ::)
I was actually going to delist Rodan haha
Quote from: elephants on October 25, 2012, 07:48:44 PM
Quote from: picker_man on October 25, 2012, 06:48:35 PM
If moloney is going to ave 90 cause he's goin to the lions then Rodan will ave 100 now he's of to the demons FARK so
Rodan for Birchall ;)
Your theory is so very flawed haha.
Rodan best average = 71 (two knee reco's since then)
Moloney best average = 88.4 (also has 81, 88 and 85 over the past 4 years.
Rodan moving down from 14th placed club (Port) to 16th placed club (Dees).
Moloney moving up from 16th placed club (Dees) to 13th placed club (Lions).
Rodan hasn't played a full season since 2008.
Moloney played every match in 2011.
Rodan is 30 next year.
Moloney is 29.
They're incomparable mate hahaha!
Moloney actually averaged 92 in 2011 without that 0 he got when he was subbed out in the 1st quarter!
Quote from: Adamant on October 25, 2012, 08:31:10 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 25, 2012, 07:48:44 PM
Quote from: picker_man on October 25, 2012, 06:48:35 PM
If moloney is going to ave 90 cause he's goin to the lions then Rodan will ave 100 now he's of to the demons FARK so
Rodan for Birchall ;)
Your theory is so very flawed haha.
Rodan best average = 71 (two knee reco's since then)
Moloney best average = 88.4 (also has 81, 88 and 85 over the past 4 years.
Rodan moving down from 14th placed club (Port) to 16th placed club (Dees).
Moloney moving up from 16th placed club (Dees) to 13th placed club (Lions).
Rodan hasn't played a full season since 2008.
Moloney played every match in 2011.
Rodan is 30 next year.
Moloney is 29.
They're incomparable mate hahaha!
Moloney actually averaged 92 in 2011 without that 0 he got when he was subbed out in the 1st quarter!
I rest my case ;)
Who has Broughton? Wow Scrads has his boy :O still...
Get with the times Adz its 2013 next season ;)
Ask lez what Gia ave in 2011 compared to 2012 lol
Quote from: picker_man on October 25, 2012, 08:39:37 PM
Get with the times Adz its 2013 next season ;)
Ask lez what Gia ave in 2011 compared to 2012 lol
Lol true ;)
Quote from: picker_man on October 25, 2012, 08:39:37 PM
Get with the times Adz its 2013 next season ;)
Ask lez what Gia ave in 2011 compared to 2012 lol
Lol, fair point. Moloney was vested to shower last season though haha
Gia is an old man. He has grey hair.
Quote from: Adamant on October 25, 2012, 08:47:26 PM
Quote from: picker_man on October 25, 2012, 08:39:37 PM
Get with the times Adz its 2013 next season ;)
Ask lez what Gia ave in 2011 compared to 2012 lol
Lol true ;)
That 0 was a half time vest cos he got the shower tagged out of him so imo gotta take the 88 average.
Quote from: elephants on October 25, 2012, 08:47:26 PM
Quote from: picker_man on October 25, 2012, 08:39:37 PM
Get with the times Adz its 2013 next season ;)
Ask lez what Gia ave in 2011 compared to 2012 lol
Lol, fair point. Moloney was vested to shower last season though haha
I do regret trading him to you though ele, now he's at the lions i think you won that trade :(
Quote from: picker_man on October 25, 2012, 08:58:27 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 25, 2012, 08:47:26 PM
Quote from: picker_man on October 25, 2012, 08:39:37 PM
Get with the times Adz its 2013 next season ;)
Ask lez what Gia ave in 2011 compared to 2012 lol
Lol, fair point. Moloney was vested to shower last season though haha
I do regret trading him to you though ele, now he's at the lions i think you won that trade :(
I don't remember the trade to be honest :P
Unless Carrats gets dpp he won't even start for me though :(
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 25, 2012, 08:53:39 PM
Quote from: Adamant on October 25, 2012, 08:47:26 PM
Quote from: picker_man on October 25, 2012, 08:39:37 PM
Get with the times Adz its 2013 next season ;)
Ask lez what Gia ave in 2011 compared to 2012 lol
Lol true ;)
That 0 was a half time vest cos he got the shower tagged out of him so imo gotta take the 88 average.
Ummm I already proved the fact that Rodan and Moloney aren't comparable with that counted as 88... So why do you keep posting haha??
To be a pain :P
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 25, 2012, 09:10:00 PM
To be a pain :P
Haha afair enough, I need to get my Posts in the non-counted sections up anyways ;D
neither did i ele had to find it on your team page as Holz doesnt have it on front trade page lol
Nope im with JB rodan averaged 88 at one point oooooh yeah haha, i think thats what Jb was saying :)
Quote from: picker_man on October 25, 2012, 09:13:41 PM
neither did i ele had to find it on your team page as Holz doesnt have it on front trade page lol
Nope im with JB rodan averaged 88 at one point oooooh yeah haha, i think thats what Jb was saying :)
Haha I'm completely lost but either way it's irrelevant ;D
Up the Bashers
Lol
Just realised thats nothing like what Jb was saying :-[ haha
but yeah that right ele up the trolls go you good things go!
Quote from: picker_man on October 25, 2012, 09:29:01 PM
Just realised thats nothing like what Jb was saying :-[ haha
but yeah that right ele up the trolls go you good things go!
Hahaha! Oh well, I think with out Moloney trade that I win short term but you win long term :)
Quote from: Ziplock on October 25, 2012, 06:29:16 PM
Quote from: Scrads on October 25, 2012, 03:38:56 PM
What happens Holz if Tippett gets de-registered for a year ? :(
I would personally vote that he stays on your team list, but takes up a spot so you'll effectively have a squad 1 player short.... for the euros I think it should just be treated like a years suspension.
or you could delist him. :P
just to reiterate this, since it's actually an important matter unlike the shower everyone else is talking (rodan and moloney both suck, end of discussion).
there's 2 options for tippett- either he gets deregistered from scrads team, or he can stay on his list but obviously won't play (if tippett gets deregistered of course).
my point is that if tippett gets deregistered it's due to an illegal and illegitimate contract with the adelaide crows- not the macedonian wolves.
Subsequently, he shouldn't be deregistered from the euros comp, even if he is from the afl.
you guys follow?
Quote from: Ziplock on October 25, 2012, 09:41:55 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on October 25, 2012, 06:29:16 PM
Quote from: Scrads on October 25, 2012, 03:38:56 PM
What happens Holz if Tippett gets de-registered for a year ? :(
I would personally vote that he stays on your team list, but takes up a spot so you'll effectively have a squad 1 player short.... for the euros I think it should just be treated like a years suspension.
or you could delist him. :P
just to reiterate this, since it's actually an important matter unlike the shower everyone else is talking (rodan and moloney both suck, end of discussion).
there's 2 options for tippett- either he gets deregistered from scrads team, or he can stay on his list but obviously won't play (if tippett gets deregistered of course).
my point is that if tippett gets deregistered it's due to an illegal and illegitimate contract with the adelaide crows- not the macedonian wolves.
Subsequently, he shouldn't be deregistered from the euros comp, even if he is from the afl.
you guys follow?
I followed until you said Moloney sucks. He's better than half your team hahaha (he doesn't start in mine)
Good I got rid of that Tippett dog.
Quote from: elephants on October 25, 2012, 09:47:39 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on October 25, 2012, 09:41:55 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on October 25, 2012, 06:29:16 PM
Quote from: Scrads on October 25, 2012, 03:38:56 PM
What happens Holz if Tippett gets de-registered for a year ? :(
I would personally vote that he stays on your team list, but takes up a spot so you'll effectively have a squad 1 player short.... for the euros I think it should just be treated like a years suspension.
or you could delist him. :P
just to reiterate this, since it's actually an important matter unlike the shower everyone else is talking (rodan and moloney both suck, end of discussion).
there's 2 options for tippett- either he gets deregistered from scrads team, or he can stay on his list but obviously won't play (if tippett gets deregistered of course).
my point is that if tippett gets deregistered it's due to an illegal and illegitimate contract with the adelaide crows- not the macedonian wolves.
Subsequently, he shouldn't be deregistered from the euros comp, even if he is from the afl.
you guys follow?
I followed until you said Moloney sucks. He's better than half your team hahaha (he doesn't start in mine)
yeah, I'm so jealous of your 29 year old 60 averaging mid.
He's so much better than all my players...
He wouldn't even start in my backline if he was eligible lol.
Quote from: Ziplock on October 25, 2012, 09:52:18 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 25, 2012, 09:47:39 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on October 25, 2012, 09:41:55 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on October 25, 2012, 06:29:16 PM
Quote from: Scrads on October 25, 2012, 03:38:56 PM
What happens Holz if Tippett gets de-registered for a year ? :(
I would personally vote that he stays on your team list, but takes up a spot so you'll effectively have a squad 1 player short.... for the euros I think it should just be treated like a years suspension.
or you could delist him. :P
just to reiterate this, since it's actually an important matter unlike the shower everyone else is talking (rodan and moloney both suck, end of discussion).
there's 2 options for tippett- either he gets deregistered from scrads team, or he can stay on his list but obviously won't play (if tippett gets deregistered of course).
my point is that if tippett gets deregistered it's due to an illegal and illegitimate contract with the adelaide crows- not the macedonian wolves.
Subsequently, he shouldn't be deregistered from the euros comp, even if he is from the afl.
you guys follow?
I followed until you said Moloney sucks. He's better than half your team hahaha (he doesn't start in mine)
yeah, I'm so jealous of your 29 year old 60 averaging mid.
He's so much better than all my players...
He wouldn't even start in my backline if he was eligible lol.
He was down this year cos of vests. Averaged 80+ the 4 years before that ::)
I know you're jealous, I can tell.
Not sure its an issue Zip until something is made official..... Highly doubt the afl will delist him for a yr
wow, that's amazing. 80+. That'd be a worthwhile player.
in defence.
he got vested at melbourne.
do you know how much you need to suck?
melbourne are taking port adelaide rejects ffs.
^^^ glad to see your over the tippet issue atleast......
Quote from: picker_man on October 25, 2012, 10:32:23 PM
^^^ glad to see your over the tippet issue atleast......
+1 :P
Hahah relax dude, I was kidding. Moloney was out of favour with the coaches but you're struggling enough with the simple concept of a joke!? For the benefit of your own learning I'm going to agree with you.
Yes, Moloney is a spud (who averages 80+ and is a perfect depth player)
Happy?
Quote from: elephants on October 25, 2012, 10:55:24 PM
Quote from: picker_man on October 25, 2012, 10:32:23 PM
^^^ glad to see your over the tippet issue atleast......
+1 :P
Hahah relax dude, I was kidding. Moloney was out of favour with the coaches but you're struggling enough with the simple concept of a joke!? For the benefit of your own learning I'm going to agree with you.
Yes, Moloney is a spud (who averages 80+ and is a perfect depth player)
Happy?
actually he has averaged 90 and that was in a bottom side. His role will be different and according to zips new word of the minute "potential" he is highly rated. If you want potential take moloney in your deal zip
My own personal opinion on the whole Tippett thing (if he gets de-registered) is that surely he can stay on my list (I promise I am not offering him under the table payments or agreeing to trade him to the Bashers for a second round pick in 3 years) but still taking up one of my list spots.
If he gets removed from my team then I would submit my own trade for him up for a vote because it surely becomes ridiculously unfair otherwise.
Quote from: Scrads on October 26, 2012, 01:56:59 AM
My own personal opinion on the whole Tippett thing (if he gets de-registered) is that surely he can stay on my list (I promise I am not offering him under the table payments or agreeing to trade him to the Bashers for a second round pick in 3 years) but still taking up one of my list spots.
If he gets removed from my team then I would submit my own trade for him up for a vote because it surely becomes ridiculously unfair otherwise.
Hahahahahahahaha love it ;D
I am swayed this way again tbh.
Quote from: Scrads on October 26, 2012, 01:56:59 AM
My own personal opinion on the whole Tippett thing (if he gets de-registered) is that surely he can stay on my list (I promise I am not offering him under the table payments or agreeing to trade him to the Bashers for a second round pick in 3 years) but still taking up one of my list spots.
If he gets removed from my team then I would submit my own trade for him up for a vote because it surely becomes ridiculously unfair otherwise.
Quote from: Ziplock on October 25, 2012, 09:41:55 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on October 25, 2012, 06:29:16 PM
Quote from: Scrads on October 25, 2012, 03:38:56 PM
What happens Holz if Tippett gets de-registered for a year ? :(
I would personally vote that he stays on your team list, but takes up a spot so you'll effectively have a squad 1 player short.... for the euros I think it should just be treated like a years suspension.
or you could delist him. :P
just to reiterate this, since it's actually an important matter unlike the shower everyone else is talking (rodan and moloney both suck, end of discussion).
there's 2 options for tippett- either he gets deregistered from scrads team, or he can stay on his list but obviously won't play (if tippett gets deregistered of course).
my point is that if tippett gets deregistered it's due to an illegal and illegitimate contract with the adelaide crows- not the macedonian wolves.
Subsequently, he shouldn't be deregistered from the euros comp, even if he is from the afl.
you guys follow?
basically what I said. It just counts as he won't be playing for a year- I agree with you, these issues were because of illegitimate contracts with the crows, not the wolves.
when does trade week end when does euros draft start
trade week ends 11:59 pm the day before the real nat draft.
Also Tippett stays on your list unless you choose to delist. That goes for all players. For example Justin Sherman walked out on the dogs. Lets say nobody picks him up. I can still keep him on my list on the hope he gets picked up next year.
cool cool carn lads bashers are keen for offers hit me up or ric or ele or even rooboys
flower Fark sent me a good offer.
Conca
For
Nahas, pick 13 and 22.
Wow what a bargain ::)
Hahahaha we are being torn so bad there.
Conca is a backline premium and Nahas is a hack haha!
He probably withdrew it since he sent it like a full day ago :-X
Quote from: whatlez on October 27, 2012, 10:02:31 PM
He probably withdrew it since he sent it like a full day ago :-X
Haha yeah probably
ill do conca for pick 5 and nahas?
Lol
Brodie Smith is now on the table for a top 15 pick
or moloney plus brodie for a 100av midfielder
lol at thinking Brodie is worth a top 15 pick.
Quote from: whatlez on October 29, 2012, 08:39:27 PM
lol at thinking Brodie is worth a top 15 pick.
brodie was a first round pick himself. being a defender makes him more valuable. he is in a top 4 side with great js (even betyer now doughty is gone) id say he is one of the most promising defenders in the league
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on October 29, 2012, 09:24:26 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 29, 2012, 08:39:27 PM
lol at thinking Brodie is worth a top 15 pick.
brodie was a first round pick himself. being a defender makes him more valuable. he is in a top 4 side with great js (even betyer now doughty is gone) id say he is one of the most promising defenders in the league
Don't mind whatlez, he tends to post before thinking :P
Quote from: elephants on October 29, 2012, 09:54:11 PM
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on October 29, 2012, 09:24:26 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 29, 2012, 08:39:27 PM
lol at thinking Brodie is worth a top 15 pick.
brodie was a first round pick himself. being a defender makes him more valuable. he is in a top 4 side with great js (even betyer now doughty is gone) id say he is one of the most promising defenders in the league
Don't mind whatlez, he tends to post before thinking :P
a top 4 side in 2012
6-8th 2013.
Quote from: Ziplock on October 29, 2012, 11:53:55 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 29, 2012, 09:54:11 PM
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on October 29, 2012, 09:24:26 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 29, 2012, 08:39:27 PM
lol at thinking Brodie is worth a top 15 pick.
brodie was a first round pick himself. being a defender makes him more valuable. he is in a top 4 side with great js (even betyer now doughty is gone) id say he is one of the most promising defenders in the league
Don't mind whatlez, he tends to post before thinking :P
a top 4 side in 2012
6-8th 2013.
Controversial!!
Quote from: elephants on October 29, 2012, 11:58:28 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on October 29, 2012, 11:53:55 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 29, 2012, 09:54:11 PM
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on October 29, 2012, 09:24:26 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 29, 2012, 08:39:27 PM
lol at thinking Brodie is worth a top 15 pick.
brodie was a first round pick himself. being a defender makes him more valuable. he is in a top 4 side with great js (even betyer now doughty is gone) id say he is one of the most promising defenders in the league
Don't mind whatlez, he tends to post before thinking :P
a top 4 side in 2012
6-8th 2013.
Controversial!!
Agreed, with a real draw can they make top 8.
Quote from: Holzman on October 30, 2012, 12:07:11 AM
Quote from: elephants on October 29, 2012, 11:58:28 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on October 29, 2012, 11:53:55 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 29, 2012, 09:54:11 PM
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on October 29, 2012, 09:24:26 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 29, 2012, 08:39:27 PM
lol at thinking Brodie is worth a top 15 pick.
brodie was a first round pick himself. being a defender makes him more valuable. he is in a top 4 side with great js (even betyer now doughty is gone) id say he is one of the most promising defenders in the league
Don't mind whatlez, he tends to post before thinking :P
a top 4 side in 2012
6-8th 2013.
Controversial!!
Agreed, with a real draw can they make top 8.
Lol, its not really that controversial. I just wanted to use the word.
I reckon they can and they will make the 8. I think they'll finish 4th-6th.
without any draft picks and tippett gone, with a hard draw that the afl might throw at them for extra punishment.
it'll be tight :P
tippett was a hack anyway jenkins will fill his role and walker will kick 70 goals...crows dominated coz of their midfield not coz of tippett
And they still play Port twice :P
crows got carried by tippett and walker in their PF.
Quote from: Ziplock on October 30, 2012, 09:04:41 AM
crows got carried by tippett and walker in their PF.
tippett was an average hack if that. Couldnt take a contested mark, couldnt ruck just used his size to win ball and kick goals. Him leaving will leave a spot for Jenkins/Mckernan/luke thompson/angus graham to fill, who atm are all average hacks but in a few years could be stars. Walker is set for a huuuuuge year thus year
What are you talking about? Tippetts one of the best contested marks in the comp, it's every other skill he lacks in.
Quote from: Ziplock on October 30, 2012, 12:10:21 AM
without any draft picks and tippett gone, with a hard draw that the afl might throw at them for extra punishment.
it'll be tight :P
Crows have some very talented younger guys in Dangerfield + Sloane + Wright + Jacobs + Walker + Talia + Shaw + Smith who are only going to get better, havnt lost much in retirements or trading except tippet, Sando at the helm again, more young guys Crouch / Grigg / Brown / Kerridge ect ect still to come in the future and they beat 14/18 teams this year with Lions & Kangas being games they should of won.....
Prietty lame point you have imo :P
several teams below them have just as many talented youngsters, and will have an easier draw as well.
we'll see :P
tippet being the best contested mark....lololol for all the ball he gets he holds shower all marks.
crows have one of the youngest most talented lists atm
sloane dangerfield walker talia jacobs smith wright abd co are all babies in terms of football.
Don't you support Port FARK?
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on October 30, 2012, 09:14:38 PM
tippet being the best contested mark....lololol for all the ball he gets he holds shower all marks.
crows have one of the youngest most talented lists atm
sloane dangerfield walker talia jacobs smith wright abd co are all babies in terms of football.
Thats why tippet came third in the AFL this year behind Cloke and Hawkins and played 1 less game than Hawkins and 4 less than Cloke.
Quote from: elephants on October 30, 2012, 09:26:54 PM
Don't you support Port FARK?
yep but port have a shower list atm
honestly if your a recruiter id only take boak, hartlett, brad ebert, ben jacobs and butcher. And even then these guys arent worth first round picks
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on October 30, 2012, 09:50:27 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 30, 2012, 09:26:54 PM
Don't you support Port FARK?
yep but port have a shower list atm
honestly if your a recruiter id only take boak, hartlett, brad ebert, ben jacobs and butcher. And even then these guys arent worth first round picks
WTF... Where is your love child?
:o :o :o LOBBE :o :o :o
...
atm, lobbes average, at best.
he's like the same age as mcevoy, leuen and goldy.
but like 1/2 the player of those guys at their peak, almost literally lol.
Quote from: elephants on October 30, 2012, 11:45:16 PM
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on October 30, 2012, 09:50:27 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 30, 2012, 09:26:54 PM
Don't you support Port FARK?
yep but port have a shower list atm
honestly if your a recruiter id only take boak, hartlett, brad ebert, ben jacobs and butcher. And even then these guys arent worth first round picks
WTF... Where is your love child?
:o :o :o LOBBE :o :o :o
If i was port i wouldnt let him go anywhere
even if the deal was swan + ablett + heppell + all the selwoods for lobbe
....
then you're a spastic.
you could on-trade one of the selwoods for another ruckman if you really needed it, or otherwise convince hudson to come out of retirement and get him to ruck while redden develops.
lobbe has played 22 games in his career and still hasnt had a full preseason
recruited as a development project similar to redden he was chucked in the deep end after brogan retired mid season where he took the no.1 ruck role, with no prior match fitness and very little experience
He ave 72 that year which is better than some experienced rucks
This year he broke down preseason with an achilles, after having a huge preseason on the track he had to sit it out for 6-8 weeks where he played a game of sanfl then was thrown back in the deep end
If Lobbe gets a full preseason in this year and improves his fitness he will be huuuuge. Considering he was a "fat slow average full foward" when he started if he can get fit theres no stopping him
Scrads trades: Gram + Rookie 25
Pickers trades: Foley + Rookie 33
LOLOL
Foley + Rookie 33 for Rookie 25.
Gram might get picked up dude
29 next year. GWS yeow.
im putting my hand up against that trade if thats for real
foley is a 90 av mid in return for a rookie pick upgrade...thats a joke
Trades already been done mate. Was done before Gram got arrested.
Quote from: elephants on October 31, 2012, 04:42:08 PM
Trades already been done mate. Was done before Gram got arrested.
well then it woulda been fair
ouchhhh pickers.
if someone gets a player traded in and they subsequently get delisted or w.e, should that movement still count towards their total list movements?
Quote from: Ziplock on November 01, 2012, 01:32:18 AM
ouchhhh pickers.
if someone gets a player traded in and they subsequently get delisted or w.e, should that movement still count towards their total list movements?
good point coz we traded symes....but to be fair i say yes it shuld count. if someone gets delisted they are still on ur euros list coz theycould still get picked up
flowering Hartlett is DPP >:(
WHY!?!?!?!!?
How do you know?
The guy on twitter confirmed it.
Yeah I know now. Unlucky bro
flower I cbf copying and pasting.
This bloke: https://twitter.com/Lumpy0305
Yeah.
Also what about players like Jed Anderson, how will they be selected?
Quote from: elephants on November 05, 2012, 04:46:55 PM
This bloke: https://twitter.com/Lumpy0305
Cheers. Also who is that guy by the way? Why does he have credibility?
Not complaining though since I have Hartlett in the worlds and was trading with the assumption he would be a defender :D
Quote from: CrowsFan on November 05, 2012, 05:12:37 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 05, 2012, 04:46:55 PM
This bloke: https://twitter.com/Lumpy0305
Cheers. Also who is that guy by the way? Why does he have credibility?
Not complaining though since I have Hartlett in the worlds and was trading with the assumption he would be a defender :D
I have no idea but I think he is a journo or something? Seems credible as DT TALK were all over it :)
Quote from: elephants on November 05, 2012, 05:44:31 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on November 05, 2012, 05:12:37 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 05, 2012, 04:46:55 PM
This bloke: https://twitter.com/Lumpy0305
Cheers. Also who is that guy by the way? Why does he have credibility?
Not complaining though since I have Hartlett in the worlds and was trading with the assumption he would be a defender :D
I have no idea but I think he is a journo or something? Seems credible as DT TALK were all over it :)
Glenn Luff is Champion Data so its about as credible as it gets haha
Ok guys here's my first trade for the season.......
l give....... Leigh Montagna, Ryan O'Keefe, Courtenay Dempsey, Rookie 42 + Rookie 56
Pickers gives....... Jack Redden, Shannon Hurn, Rookie 25, Nat 35 + Nat 55
Pickers to confirm 8)
Quote from: nostradamus on November 08, 2012, 12:00:18 AM
Ok guys here's my first trade for the season.......
l give....... Leigh Montagna, Ryan O'Keefe, Courtenay Dempsey, Rookie 42 + Rookie 56
Pickers gives....... Jack Redden, Shannon Hurn, Rookie 25, Nat 35 + Nat 55
Pickers to confirm 8)
Frst to get some of those premiership players :) Nice trading Nost.
I confirm.
How the heck have you got trades left Pickers? Not using 2014's quota now are you? :D
hahah thankfully ive got 15 players i can on trade ;D
Another quick fire trade with nostra!
We Give: Brent Moloney
Nostra Gives: National Pick 14
Nostra to confirm.
Quote from: elephants on November 08, 2012, 12:26:11 AM
Another quick fire trade with nostra!
We Give: Brent Moloney
Nostra Gives: National Pick 14
Nostra to confirm.
Confirmed 8)
.......will help to keep my premiership window open :)
Now l'm in the market for a forward......l'm willing to trade a mid
Up for trade are guys like Howlett, Vince, Hill or someone else if the offer is right
Good to see the Lions are back at the trade table!!
Titans give: Pick 38 Rookie
Lions give: Seb Ross (St Kilda)
Get another kid I'm a big fan of to add to the youth brigade at Greece.
Quote from: Spinking on November 08, 2012, 12:46:33 PM
Good to see the Lions are back at the trade table!!
Titans give: Pick 38 Rookie
Lions give: Seb Ross (St Kilda)
Get another kid I'm a big fan of to add to the youth brigade at Greece.
Can you tell him to have a look at British?
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 08, 2012, 06:02:25 PM
Quote from: Spinking on November 08, 2012, 12:46:33 PM
Good to see the Lions are back at the trade table!!
Titans give: Pick 38 Rookie
Lions give: Seb Ross (St Kilda)
Get another kid I'm a big fan of to add to the youth brigade at Greece.
Can you tell him to have a look at British?
Who JBs?
Quote from: Spinking on November 08, 2012, 06:09:37 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 08, 2012, 06:02:25 PM
Quote from: Spinking on November 08, 2012, 12:46:33 PM
Good to see the Lions are back at the trade table!!
Titans give: Pick 38 Rookie
Lions give: Seb Ross (St Kilda)
Get another kid I'm a big fan of to add to the youth brigade at Greece.
Can you tell him to have a look at British?
Who JBs?
Oops, thought MTTY was still coach.
Dinos give: Waite + Lower + rookie 58
for
Picker gives: Westhoff + Curnow + rookie 34
Allows me to contuine getting rid of old for youth, well youthish :P and i get a pick upgrade
Quote from: Hawka on November 08, 2012, 09:38:26 PM
Dinos give: Waite + Lower + rookie 58
for
Picker gives: Westhoff + Curnow + rookie 34
Allows me to contuine getting rid of old for youth, well youthish :P and i get a pick upgrade
confirmed. hoping waite & lower can play a few more games next yr to go with there good ave's
Scrads gives:
Pavlich + Colyer + Symes + Nat 56
LE/RIC/FARK/WHOLE OF FF gives:
Varcoe + Rookie 9 + Rookie 51 + Nat 47
Basher's rep to confirm.
Quote from: Scrads on November 09, 2012, 02:01:44 AM
Scrads gives:
Pavlich + Colyer + Symes + Nat 56
LE/RIC/FARK/WHOLE OF FF gives:
Varcoe + Rookie 9 + Rookie 51 + Nat 47
Basher's rep to confirm.
Confirmed.
Do we still do the whole reason thing? Cos if we do Ric is coming with ours :)
Lol what a trade.
Quote from: Scrads on November 09, 2012, 02:01:44 AM
Scrads gives:
Pavlich + Colyer + Symes + Nat 56
LE/RIC/FARK/WHOLE OF FF gives:
Varcoe + Rookie 9 + Rookie 51 + Nat 47
Basher's rep to confirm.
you forgot RB!
Reason: Pavlich still has 2 years of good footy left in him while Lynch develops. Also completes our fwd line of Robbo, Pav, Wright and Pearce. And getting Colyer and Symes back give us two more list movements back because we're addicted to trading :P
Hey guys, just moved out of my home and into a new place. Haven't got Internet here yet and will be abit busy. I will come onto FF on my phone but I can't post up trades on the front page as it takes too long on my phone. So just a heads up on that.
No worries champ, no rush ;)
Quote from: Holzman on November 11, 2012, 11:33:08 PM
Hey guys, just moved out of my home and into a new place. Haven't got Internet here yet and will be abit busy. I will come onto FF on my phone but I can't post up trades on the front page as it takes too long on my phone. So just a heads up on that.
All good mate......life has to squeeze in there sometimes ;)
I got the biggest lol trade so far. Fark and Torp has sent some bad offers, but Zip wins the award for the worst trade offer.
Care to share it?
Adams Goodes for Nat 6 and Rookie 11.
Hahaha I wouldn't do Nat 13 for Goodes.
Ric sent me Nat 3 and rookie 3 for Blair ::)
Zip also tried selling me Jarrod grant and vespremi for Jeremy Cameron when I was with nails haha
As if you wouldn't take the Blair offer. Blair is rubbish...
Ric offered me Blair,
Quote from: whatlez on November 13, 2012, 12:20:55 AM
Adams Goodes for Nat 6 and Rookie 11.
Hahaha I wouldn't do Nat 13 for Goodes.
I've had a much worse offer than that.
Rookie picks are a lot more valuable in euros then Asians ada
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 13, 2012, 12:45:38 AM
Rookie picks are a lot more valuable in euros then Asians ada
Hmm, how?
There are heaps of unpicked guns available that weren't initially drafted as there's only 14 teams and smaller lists.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 13, 2012, 12:39:48 AM
Ric offered me Blair,
Ah. Well then you would be stupid to say yes!
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 13, 2012, 12:50:00 AM
There are heaps of unpicked guns available that weren't initially drafted as there's only 14 teams and smaller lists.
Yeah, true. Kinda makes it unfair for the club world cup as the Euro's teams are stronger?
Anyway, I still think the offer I got is worse.
Not many fwds in the rookie draft averaging 80+ :P
Quote from: Ricochet on November 13, 2012, 12:57:40 AM
Not many fwds in the rookie draft averaging 80+ :P
Highly doubt he will average 80+ next season...
Quote from: Adamant on November 13, 2012, 12:54:41 AM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 13, 2012, 12:50:00 AM
There are heaps of unpicked guns available that weren't initially drafted as there's only 14 teams and smaller lists.
Yeah, true. Kinda makes it unfair for the club world cup as the Euro's teams are stronger?
Anyway, I still think the offer I got is worse.
It's done by average score isn't it so doesn't matter as the euros average will be higher therefore there multiplier will be less.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 13, 2012, 01:05:08 AM
Quote from: Adamant on November 13, 2012, 12:54:41 AM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 13, 2012, 12:50:00 AM
There are heaps of unpicked guns available that weren't initially drafted as there's only 14 teams and smaller lists.
Yeah, true. Kinda makes it unfair for the club world cup as the Euro's teams are stronger?
Anyway, I still think the offer I got is worse.
It's done by average score isn't it so doesn't matter as the euros average will be higher therefore there multiplier will be less.
Yeah we are using weighted averages. If anything the cap makes it harder to win with a euro team as we have smaller benches so struggle with injuries more. For me it's much harder to set up and field my euro team than my worlds, and I like that.
Quote from: whatlez on November 12, 2012, 11:48:42 PM
I got the biggest lol trade so far. Fark and Torp has sent some bad offers, but Zip wins the award for the worst trade offer.
im more a quantity over quality guy
i make mass offers and eventually people find ones they like
Serbia trade chris knights + nat 16
Belgium trade Brodie smith + rookie 35
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on November 13, 2012, 01:39:12 AM
Quote from: whatlez on November 12, 2012, 11:48:42 PM
I got the biggest lol trade so far. Fark and Torp has sent some bad offers, but Zip wins the award for the worst trade offer.
im more a quantity over quality guy
i make mass offers and eventually people find ones they like
Haha and how has that worked so far??
Quote from: whatlez on November 13, 2012, 12:20:55 AM
Adams Goodes for Nat 6 and Rookie 11.
Hahaha I wouldn't do Nat 13 for Goodes.
mate, I'm so sleep deprived atm I dont know half the shower I say.
I dont even remember that... I kind of remember offering you a trade, but that was it :P
Serbia trade Chris Knights + nat 16 + Campbell Heath
Belgium trade Brodie Smith + rookie 35 + rookie 65
Serbia to confirm!
Quote from: elephants on November 13, 2012, 08:09:22 PM
Serbia trade Chris Knights + nat 16 + Campbell Heath
Belgium trade Brodie Smith + rookie 35 + rookie 65
Serbia to confirm!
Agreed. Defense looking solid will be complete with rookie 8
Quote from: Holzman on November 13, 2012, 08:28:51 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 13, 2012, 08:09:22 PM
Serbia trade Chris Knights + nat 16 + Campbell Heath
Belgium trade Brodie Smith + rookie 35 + rookie 65
Serbia to confirm!
Agreed. Defense looking solid will be complete with rookie 8
ripper of a trade there lads
Quote from: Ziplock on November 13, 2012, 06:09:21 PM
Quote from: whatlez on November 13, 2012, 12:20:55 AM
Adams Goodes for Nat 6 and Rookie 11.
Hahaha I wouldn't do Nat 13 for Goodes.
mate, I'm so sleep deprived atm I dont know half the shower I say.
I dont even remember that... I kind of remember offering you a trade, but that was it :P
... Right.
Bartel M/F... exactly what I needed ;)
Quote from: Scrads on November 14, 2012, 03:29:51 PM
Bartel M/F... exactly what I needed ;)
That hurts my premiership chances abit. Bartel is still a gun.
Quote from: Holzman on November 14, 2012, 04:02:29 PM
Quote from: Scrads on November 14, 2012, 03:29:51 PM
Bartel M/F... exactly what I needed ;)
That hurts my premiership chances abit. Bartel is still a gun.
It is weird how Broughton, Hartlett and Bartel are the only 3 confirmed new DPPs and are all in my team :P
Bartel is on the decline, lucky to break 90+ ;) ;)
Quote from: elephants on November 14, 2012, 04:19:19 PM
Bartel is on the decline, lucky to break 90+ ;) ;)
If I were to guess I would say 90 on the nose IMO and also would be happy with anything 85+ ;)
Scrads just replaced Pav without trading :o
Quote from: whatlez on November 14, 2012, 05:21:14 PM
Scrads just replaced Pav without trading :o
Magic :o
Quote from: Scrads on November 14, 2012, 04:20:26 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 14, 2012, 04:19:19 PM
Bartel is on the decline, lucky to break 90+ ;) ;)
If I were to guess I would say 90 on the nose IMO and also would be happy with anything 85+ ;)
Yeah haha he'll be good as a fwd for sure!
Anyone lacking depth ?
Guerra, Morris, Reid, Wilkes
Mzungu, Iles, Sumner, Savage, Polky
Cordy, Vardy, Gorringe
Callinan, Lamb, Paine, Frank, Sheahan, Menegola
are all on the table for reasonably cheap offers. Would be keen to trade 2 or 3 for 1.
Another player of mine in the headlines.
NVB now under scrutiny for salary cap breach at Adelaide :(
So far Hartlett, Broughton, Bartel have gained valuable DPP while Tippett and NVB are under scrutiny :-X
Quote from: Scrads on November 15, 2012, 11:58:57 PM
Another player of mine in the headlines.
NVB now under scrutiny for salary cap breach at Adelaide :(
So far Hartlett, Broughton, Bartel have gained valuable DPP while Tippett and NVB are under scrutiny :-X
Haha bloody hell mate, haven't your players heard of flying under the radar during the off-season :P
Two part trade between me and Hp
1st trade window
Iceland Trades - J.Mcveigh + Rookie 15 + Nat 37 + Nat 53
Norway Trades - D.Wells + C.Dempsey
2nd Trade window
Iceland Trades - J.Lewis
Norway Trades - B.Whitecross
Understand the 2nd trade is not official until that window opens and i will re post it then. We also have an agreement as the 1st trade evens out the 2nd we can not back out after the first has gone through ect ect 8)
Trade between me and Holz
Serbia Trades - K.Cornes
Norway Trades - B.Harvey
Holz wanted Boomer and i need a decent backup mid :)
I thought you'd used your 15 movements pickers?
Quote from: picker_man on November 16, 2012, 07:51:46 PM
Trade between me and Holz
Serbia Trades - K.Cornes
Norway Trades - B.Harvey
Holz wanted Boomer and i need a decent backup mid :)
Confirm.
I don't care if it's a good team move or not, I finally have my favourite player of all time in one of my teams. Kornes is good but hopefully omeara guns it from year 1 so he can cover injuries.
Quote from: Ziplock on November 16, 2012, 07:58:53 PM
I thought you'd used your 15 movements pickers?
I'm pretty sure boomer was traded in.
If not, watch me spit the dummy if I dont get boomer. I'm already planning my best and fairest to be the boomer medal when he retires.
Quote from: Holzman on November 16, 2012, 08:02:17 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on November 16, 2012, 07:58:53 PM
I thought you'd used your 15 movements pickers?
I'm pretty sure boomer was traded in.
If not, watch me spit the dummy if I dont get boomer. I'm already planning my best and fairest to be the boomer medal when he retires.
Or just wait till next trade period ? :P
Quote from: Holzman on November 16, 2012, 08:02:17 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on November 16, 2012, 07:58:53 PM
I thought you'd used your 15 movements pickers?
I'm pretty sure boomer was traded in.
If not, watch me spit the dummy if I dont get boomer. I'm already planning my best and fairest to be the boomer medal when he retires.
I traded Harvey to Pickers so it was a player movement :).
Quote from: picker_man on November 16, 2012, 06:10:12 PM
Two part trade between me and Hp
1st trade window
Iceland Trades - J.Mcveigh + Rookie 15 + Nat 37 + Nat 53
Norway Trades - D.Wells + C.Dempsey
2nd Trade window
Iceland Trades - J.Lewis
Norway Trades - B.Whitecross
Understand the 2nd trade is not official until that window opens and i will re post it then. We also have an agreement as the 1st trade evens out the 2nd we can not back out after the first has gone through ect ect 8)
Accepted. Get in Dempsey to hopefully end our Back woes we had this season, and don't have to give up alot to get him (The picks, we have many Nat draft picks). But this only gets through as long as the 2nd trade goes through the 2nd window ;). Whitey will be out for quite some time next season, luckily we have players forwards so will be able to cover him :D. Unless freak injuries occur to some of them :-X.
Wow, that was quick!?
Quote from: Ziplock on November 16, 2012, 07:58:53 PM
I thought you'd used your 15 movements pickers?
your right Zip, I was so worried about Whitecross didnt even think of Wells. thanks for alerting me ;)
Wells was a list movement in the trade with Hp so we have cancelled that trade for now :) apolagies for any confussion.
Quote from: picker_man on November 17, 2012, 02:22:40 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on November 16, 2012, 07:58:53 PM
I thought you'd used your 15 movements pickers?
your right Zip, I was so worried about Whitecross didnt even think of Wells. thanks for alerting me ;)
Wells was a list movement in the trade with Hp so we have cancelled that trade for now :) apolagies for any confussion.
Apology accepted ;)
Quote from: elephants on November 17, 2012, 02:36:37 PM
Quote from: picker_man on November 17, 2012, 02:22:40 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on November 16, 2012, 07:58:53 PM
I thought you'd used your 15 movements pickers?
your right Zip, I was so worried about Whitecross didnt even think of Wells. thanks for alerting me ;)
Wells was a list movement in the trade with Hp so we have cancelled that trade for now :) apolagies for any confussion.
Apology accepted ;)
haha cheers ele :D
Scrads trades:
Daniel Gorringe + Liam Sumner
HP trades:
Nat Pick 8 + Nat Pick 44
HP to confirm.
Also while I am here, people check this announcement:
http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,69460.0.html
Quote from: Scrads on November 19, 2012, 12:02:13 AM
Scrads trades:
Daniel Gorringe + Liam Sumner
HP trades:
Nat Pick 8 + Nat Pick 44
HP to confirm.
Accepted :). Gets us a young midfielder with alot of potential as well as a nice young ruck to help sure up our Ruck department for years to come :D.
Second part of the trade:
Scrads trades:
Nat 8 + Nat 12
Hawka trades:
Liam Shiels + Nat 17
Hawka to confirm (probably tomorrow haha)
Confirmed , cant explain in a rush, will probbe last post in awhile
So selwood and 17 for 8 and 12.
I really hope you get 2 stars with the picks hawks.
1 2 8 12 and 17 should set your team up there
lol.
Quote from: Holzman on November 19, 2012, 03:51:19 PM
So selwood and 17 for 8 and 12.
I really hope you get 2 stars with the picks hawks.
1 2 8 12 and 17 should set your team up there
Well 17 is now mine :P
It is unfair to compare Shiels to Selwood by the way. I know Hawka straight-swapped them last year but that was after Shiels averaged over 100, this year Shiels went backwards (fantasy-wise) due to spending some time as a tagger. My thoughts in recruiting him was the thought (hope) that he will begin doing less and less of these roles over his remaining years.
Quote from: Ziplock on November 19, 2012, 03:56:03 PM
lol.
Rookie pick 45 should also set you up quite nicely mate ;)
I loled at the selwood trade :P
which, incidentally, I motioned to be blocked, because it was so clearly unfair
annnnd I was right :P
and Le, I dont really need more draft picks :P
I have plenty first round picks in my team already (if you count top 25 as first round, which it pretty much is this year with the prelistings :P )
Grimes, Jackson Trengove, Suban, Pittard, Jacobs, Toy (prelisted), Murphy, Ziebell, Trengove, Gaff, Caddy, Cunnington, bastinac, haynes, ward, bewick, stevens, mcevoy, vespremi, grant, gumbleton
all top 25 picks ;)
annnnd they're all going to come good. I swear :P
Hahaha I know, that was a shocker.
Yeah I'm sure they will mate :P ;)
the nat will be up shortly after the real nat draft, so its likely going to be the day after.
remeber the trading period is closing 11:59 the day before the real draft, so not long left.
There really should be a 2nd trade period.......
Holz trades : Brodie Smith and Rookie #8
JB trades: Heath Shaw and Rookie #38
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 20, 2012, 10:50:23 PM
Holz trades : Brodie Smith and Rookie #8
JB trades: Heath Shaw and Rookie #38
Deal, good luck stopping the eagles next year.
Goddard Gibbs Shaw adcock is not too shabby
Quote from: Holzman on November 20, 2012, 10:54:11 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 20, 2012, 10:50:23 PM
Holz trades : Brodie Smith and Rookie #8
JB trades: Heath Shaw and Rookie #38
Deal, good luck stopping the eagles next year.
Goddard Gibbs Shaw adcock is not too shabby
Who needs luck when Goddard gets the #1 tag, Gibbs gets injured and doesn't get in with Mick, Heater plays his filthy fwd/back role and Adcock continues ar his inconsistent greatest.
Who needs luck ;)
Quote from: elephants on November 20, 2012, 11:15:01 PM
Quote from: Holzman on November 20, 2012, 10:54:11 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 20, 2012, 10:50:23 PM
Holz trades : Brodie Smith and Rookie #8
JB trades: Heath Shaw and Rookie #38
Deal, good luck stopping the eagles next year.
Goddard Gibbs Shaw adcock is not too shabby
Who needs luck when Goddard gets the #1 tag, Gibbs gets injured and doesn't get in with Mick, Heater plays his filthy fwd/back role and Adcock continues ar his inconsistent greatest.
Who needs luck ;)
I still should go alright, still have lids pendles Boyd will carry me.
Plus Goddard and Gibbs go mid and combine for 200+ a week. Shaw gets over the niggling injuries and averages 90 and adcock is a 4th back so no big deal.
I can have 2 of those get injured and still have more captain option than you guys :)
Quote from: Holzman on November 20, 2012, 11:28:00 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 20, 2012, 11:15:01 PM
Quote from: Holzman on November 20, 2012, 10:54:11 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 20, 2012, 10:50:23 PM
Holz trades : Brodie Smith and Rookie #8
JB trades: Heath Shaw and Rookie #38
Deal, good luck stopping the eagles next year.
Goddard Gibbs Shaw adcock is not too shabby
Who needs luck when Goddard gets the #1 tag, Gibbs gets injured and doesn't get in with Mick, Heater plays his filthy fwd/back role and Adcock continues ar his inconsistent greatest.
Who needs luck ;)
I still should go alright, still have lids pendles Boyd will carry me.
Plus Goddard and Gibbs go mid and combine for 200+ a week. Shaw gets over the niggling injuries and averages 90 and adcock is a 4th back so no big deal.
I can have 2 of those get injured and still have more captain option than you guys :)
Rosa will go 150+, Boyd is old... Will drop under 100, Lids wants to be a back in DT again in 2014 so he is playing fullback with Presti like scores, Pendles doesn't like the club culture at Serbia.
I can talk shower all night haha!
Quote from: elephants on November 20, 2012, 11:43:02 PM
Quote from: Holzman on November 20, 2012, 11:28:00 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 20, 2012, 11:15:01 PM
Quote from: Holzman on November 20, 2012, 10:54:11 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 20, 2012, 10:50:23 PM
Holz trades : Brodie Smith and Rookie #8
JB trades: Heath Shaw and Rookie #38
Deal, good luck stopping the eagles next year.
Goddard Gibbs Shaw adcock is not too shabby
Who needs luck when Goddard gets the #1 tag, Gibbs gets injured and doesn't get in with Mick, Heater plays his filthy fwd/back role and Adcock continues ar his inconsistent greatest.
Who needs luck ;)
I still should go alright, still have lids pendles Boyd will carry me.
Plus Goddard and Gibbs go mid and combine for 200+ a week. Shaw gets over the niggling injuries and averages 90 and adcock is a 4th back so no big deal.
I can have 2 of those get injured and still have more captain option than you guys :)
Rosa will go 150+, Boyd is old... Will drop under 100, Lids wants to be a back in DT again in 2014 so he is playing fullback with Presti like scores, Pendles doesn't like the club culture at Serbia.
I can talk shower all night haha!
I wish I could, have to get up at 5am for work. My starting back 4 is easily the strongest on the comp but eski and Thompson as my only backup is terrible and I lost my back smokie as he was rookie 8. So I'm going to need some luck.
May bee lids keeps DPP :) if Gibbs doesn't get DPP I'm screwed
I have no clue how I'm going to get the trades updated and drafy order updated along with doing the draft. I got opt us mobile broadband and it took 5 seconds to loaf a fan footy page so I cancelled it.
Will get Telstra soon hope its in time for the draft.
Quote from: Holzman on November 21, 2012, 12:25:11 AM
Quote from: elephants on November 20, 2012, 11:43:02 PM
Quote from: Holzman on November 20, 2012, 11:28:00 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 20, 2012, 11:15:01 PM
Quote from: Holzman on November 20, 2012, 10:54:11 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 20, 2012, 10:50:23 PM
Holz trades : Brodie Smith and Rookie #8
JB trades: Heath Shaw and Rookie #38
Deal, good luck stopping the eagles next year.
Goddard Gibbs Shaw adcock is not too shabby
Who needs luck when Goddard gets the #1 tag, Gibbs gets injured and doesn't get in with Mick, Heater plays his filthy fwd/back role and Adcock continues ar his inconsistent greatest.
Who needs luck ;)
I still should go alright, still have lids pendles Boyd will carry me.
Plus Goddard and Gibbs go mid and combine for 200+ a week. Shaw gets over the niggling injuries and averages 90 and adcock is a 4th back so no big deal.
I can have 2 of those get injured and still have more captain option than you guys :)
Rosa will go 150+, Boyd is old... Will drop under 100, Lids wants to be a back in DT again in 2014 so he is playing fullback with Presti like scores, Pendles doesn't like the club culture at Serbia.
I can talk shower all night haha!
I wish I could, have to get up at 5am for work. My starting back 4 is easily the strongest on the comp but eski and Thompson as my only backup is terrible and I lost my back smokie as he was rookie 8. So I'm going to need some luck.
May bee lids keeps DPP :) if Gibbs doesn't get DPP I'm screwed
I have no clue how I'm going to get the trades updated and drafy order updated along with doing the draft. I got opt us mobile broadband and it took 5 seconds to loaf a fan footy page so I cancelled it.
Will get Telstra soon hope its in time for the draft.
Leave the trades and draft orders to me, I will sort it all out and post it in this thread and you can just copy and paste it to the OP :)
Nostradamus gives....... Leigh Montagna, Ryan O'Keefe, Courtenay Dempsey, Rookie 42 + Rookie 56
Pickers gives....... Jack Redden, Shannon Hurn, Rookie 25, Nat 35 + Nat 55
Elephants Gives: Brent Moloney
Nostra Gives: National Pick 14
Hawka gives: Waite + Lower + rookie 58
for
Pickers gives: Westhoff + Curnow + rookie 34
Scrads gives:
Pavlich + Colyer + Symes + Nat 56
LE/RIC/FARK/WHOLE OF FF gives:
Varcoe + Rookie 9 + Rookie 51 + Nat 47
Serbia trade chris knights + nat 16 + Campbell Heath
Belgium trade Brodie smith + rookie 35 + rookie 65
Serbia Trades - K.Cornes
Norway Trades - B.Harvey
Scrads trades:
Daniel Gorringe + Liam Sumner
HP trades:
Nat Pick 8 + Nat Pick 44
Scrads trades:
Nat 8 + Nat 12
Hawka trades:
Liam Shiels + Nat 17
Nat Draft Order (will be changed as trades occur)
1. Hawka
2. Hawka
3. MTTY
4. Elephants
5. Scrads
6. Whatlez
7. Holz
8. Hawka
9. Hawka
10. Meow
11. Torpedo
12. Hawka
13. Whatlez
14. Elephants
15. Elephants
16. Elephants
17. Scrads
18. MTTY
19. Lahug
20. Hakwa
21. Hawka
22. Whatlez
23. HP
24. Elephants
25. Whatlez
26. Whatlez
27. Elephants
28. Meow
29. Nostradamus
30. Lahug
31. Hawka
32. MTTY
33. Lahug
34. Hawka
35. Nostradamus
36. Whatlez
37. HP
38. Hawka
39. HP
40. Torpedo
41. Elephants
42. Meow Meow
43. Nostradamus
44. Scrads
45. Hawka
46. MTTY
47. Scrads
48. Hawka
49. Lahug
50. HP
51. HP
52. Elephants
53. HP
54. Elephants
55. Nostradamus
56. Elephants
57. Nostradamus
58. Holz
59. Hawka
60. MTTY
61. Lahug
62. Lahug
63. Lahug
64. Lahug
65. HP
66. Elephants
67. Spinking
68. Torpedo
69. Scrads
70. Meow Meow
71. Nostradamus
Rookie Draft Order
1. Holz
2. Elephants
3. MTTY
4. Ziplock
5. Elephants
6. Scrads
7. Lahug
8. Holz
9. Scrads
10. Scrads
11. Whatlez
12. Whatlez
13. Whatlez
14. Nostradamus
15. HP
16. Whatlez
17. MTTY
18. Ziplock
19. Whatlez
20. Pickers
21. Spinking
22. Spinking
23. Scrads
24. Scrads
25. Nostradamus
26. Spinking
27. Spinking
28. Nostradamus
29. Whatlez
30. Scrads
31. MTTY
32. Lahug
33. Scrads
34. Hawka
35. Holz
36. HP
37. Spinking
38. Spinking
39. Whatelz
40. Pickers
41. Spinking
42. Pickers
43. Whatlez
44. Whatlez
45. MTTY
46. Ziplock
47. Pickers
48. Spinking
49. Pickers
50. HP
51. Scrads
52. Spinking
53. Torpedo
54. Lahug
55. Meow Meow
56. Pickers
57. Holz
58. Pickers
59. MTTY
60. Ziplock
61. Pickers
62. Whatlez
63. Spinking
64. HP
65. Holz
66. Lahug
67. Torpedo
68. Pickers
69. Meow Meow
70. Nostradamus
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Above is the complete updated list of of trades and picks. However, I did not include the following trades for the reasons given:
Quote from: Spinking on November 08, 2012, 12:46:33 PM
Good to see the Lions are back at the trade table!!
Titans give: Pick 38 Rookie
Lions give: Seb Ross (St Kilda)
Get another kid I'm a big fan of to add to the youth brigade at Greece.
I could not actually find a confirmation for this trade, please someone quote it for me or JB confirm it nowQuote from: JBs-Hawks on November 20, 2012, 10:50:23 PM
Holz trades : Brodie Smith and Rookie #8
JB trades: Heath Shaw and Rookie #38
Under technicality, JB doesn't actually have Rookie 38 yet because the above trade hasn't been confirmed.Quote from: picker_man on November 16, 2012, 06:10:12 PM
Two part trade between me and Hp
1st trade window
Iceland Trades - J.Mcveigh + Rookie 15 + Nat 37 + Nat 53
Norway Trades - D.Wells + C.Dempsey
2nd Trade window
Iceland Trades - J.Lewis
Norway Trades - B.Whitecross
Understand the 2nd trade is not official until that window opens and i will re post it then. We also have an agreement as the 1st trade evens out the 2nd we can not back out after the first has gone through ect ect 8)
This was confusing, it was mentioned that Pickers didn't have enough list movements or something, then he said this:Quote from: picker_man on November 17, 2012, 02:22:40 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on November 16, 2012, 07:58:53 PM
I thought you'd used your 15 movements pickers?
your right Zip, I was so worried about Whitecross didnt even think of Wells. thanks for alerting me ;)
Wells was a list movement in the trade with Hp so we have cancelled that trade for now :) apolagies for any confussion.
So need some confirmation on what actually eventuated with this trade------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Other than that, let me know of any errors you spot :) Remember we have about 23 hours left of the trade period.
God I've missed a lot...
I can confirm the Ross/38 trade scrads.
Thanks JB, sorry to be so narky. I will update when I do the final update after the trading deadline closes at midnight tonight.
Thanks soo much scrads I should be up and running soon, this saves me hours it would take on the phone
both pickers trades cant go through, due to the cap and there wasnt a compromise, so no trade as of yet.
Also why is there 71 Nat picks and 70 rookie picks ? haha
Pickers gives: gibson + rookie 58
Scrads gives: Nat 44 + rookie 51
Quote from: Scrads on November 21, 2012, 02:30:00 PM
Pickers gives: gibson + rookie 58
Scrads gives: Nat 44 + rookie 51
confirmed 8) didnt want to be left out of nat draft, i have a pick now yayay ;D
Insane work Scrads!
Also, just checking as I remember there was some real confusion last time.
Is it 11:59 Australian Eastern Daylight Saving Time? Or Australian Western Standard Time or yeah, what's the go?
Cheers :)
Sorry, just read the OP and it says
Trading Ends: Midnight EST on the day the real national draft is held.
QLD is the only Eastern state without daylight savings... right?
Quote from: Scrads on November 21, 2012, 02:26:59 PM
Also why is there 71 Nat picks and 70 rookie picks ? haha
because i got a compo pick in the nat but not for the rookie.
Quote from: Holzman on November 21, 2012, 11:06:12 AM
both pickers trades cant go through, due to the cap and there wasnt a compromise, so no trade as of yet.
Yep, came close to a compromise but fell through last minute :-\.
Still open to some late trading. Robert Warnock, Leigh Adams, Heath Hocking, Farren Ray, Xavier Ellis all possibly on the move if the right offer comes along!
Me and Hp have made a new trade 8)
Dempsey
for
Rookie 15 + Nat 50
2nd trade period
Wells + Talia
for
Chapman + Nat 53
Hp takes who i want pick 53 and then trades to me when 2nd window opens :)
Have plenty of mids so getting wells for chapman is a big boost for my fwd line. I rate Dempsey highly even with all his injury problems so will be sad to see him leave my already depleted backline but rookie 15 should get me a young talented defender perfect for trading in 2nd trade period ;D
Hp to confirm
Confirmed (Given that 2nd trade goes through in the 2nd trade period).
We lose Rookie 15, but was probably just going to get a Back with it, so get in Dempsey who I like and can score well as a Defender (when played in right position). Rate Michael Talia as a solid cover in the future (something we didn't have this year). Chapman is a huge loss, but he is 31 at the moment, so may not have much left in him so getting Wells for him seems a decent trade for Points at the moment as we played forwards as benches last season :P.
Quote from: Hellopplz on November 21, 2012, 05:35:17 PM
Confirmed (Given that 2nd trade goes through in the 2nd trade period).
We lose Rookie 15, but was probably just going to get a Back with it, so get in Dempsey who I like and can score well as a Defender (when played in right position). Rate Michael Talia as a solid cover in the future (something we didn't have this year). Chapman is a huge loss, but he is 31 at the moment, so may not have much left in him so getting Wells for him seems a decent trade for Points at the moment as we played forwards as benches last season :P.
wont work second trade period is 2 for 2 or 2 for 2
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on November 21, 2012, 06:59:04 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on November 21, 2012, 05:35:17 PM
Confirmed (Given that 2nd trade goes through in the 2nd trade period).
We lose Rookie 15, but was probably just going to get a Back with it, so get in Dempsey who I like and can score well as a Defender (when played in right position). Rate Michael Talia as a solid cover in the future (something we didn't have this year). Chapman is a huge loss, but he is 31 at the moment, so may not have much left in him so getting Wells for him seems a decent trade for Points at the moment as we played forwards as benches last season :P.
wont work second trade period is 2 for 2 or 2 for 2
where's it say that :-\ ive only read its 4 list movements nothing bout one for one. so i use 2 list movements and Hp uses 1
if it is one for one though thats cool, just put nat 53 in 2nd trade period and Hp can choose who i want.
Either way it works :)
not fussed about age if anyone has a fwd ave 80+ there willing to trade let me know ;)
Also have whitecross still available for trade. Ave 88 at only 22 means he's prolly worth a bit but cause he will prolly be injured still for first few rounds im not expecting a massive deal for him ;)
Bashers give: Nat 15 + Rookie 5
Lions give: Nat 3
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 21, 2012, 11:08:20 PM
Bashers give: Nat 15 + Rookie 5
Lions give: Nat 3
confirmed
A late trade between the Bison and Polar Bears...
Bison give Chis Dawes and NAT pick 61
Polar Bears give Xavier Ellis and NAT pick 39
HP to confirm :)
Quote from: CrowsFan on November 22, 2012, 12:30:54 AM
A late trade between the Bison and Polar Bears...
Bison give Chis Dawes and NAT pick 61
Polar Bears give Xavier Ellis and NAT pick 39
HP to confirm :)
Confirmed.
Bashers Give: Adams, lynch, N27 and R2.
Zip Gives: Marc Murphy
confirmed
Quote from: Ricochet on November 22, 2012, 12:59:10 AM
Bashers Give: Adams, lynch, N27 and R2.
Zip Gives: Marc Murphy
you boys got ya captain! nice 8) i'd say your now the only threat to Holz for that premiership, really is a crazyly good team mixed with older premiums and talented younger guys. Good work Bashers ;)
bottom 4 side for Zip now haha :P
Quote from: picker_man on November 22, 2012, 01:05:36 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 22, 2012, 12:59:10 AM
Bashers Give: Adams, lynch, N27 and R2.
Zip Gives: Marc Murphy
you boys got ya captain! nice 8) i'd say your now the only threat to Holz for that premiership, really is a crazyly good team mixed with older premiums and talented younger guys. Good work Bashers ;)
WOWZA!!! Losing adams and lynch hurts a lot, but cant complain premierships come first
Will update the full list of trades and updated draft lists in the next hour.
Quote from: Ziplock on November 22, 2012, 01:02:07 AM
confirmed
ohhhh flower bad luck bashers trading finished 2 mins before Zip confirmed :P LOL
Quote from: picker_man on November 22, 2012, 01:10:38 AM
Quote from: Ziplock on November 22, 2012, 01:02:07 AM
confirmed
ohhhh flower bad luck bashers trading finished 2 mins before Zip confirmed :P LOL
meh i got it in before 12 :D
Quote from: Ricochet on November 22, 2012, 01:14:33 AM
Quote from: picker_man on November 22, 2012, 01:10:38 AM
Quote from: Ziplock on November 22, 2012, 01:02:07 AM
confirmed
ohhhh flower bad luck bashers trading finished 2 mins before Zip confirmed :P LOL
meh i got it in before 12 :D
yeah but trade was never confirmed.... it came in after the trading period closed so no deal.....haha. pplz where anal as when it came to my trading, had to change a few because of it so its time to return the favour :P
Trading Ends: Midnight EST on the day the real national draft is held
the trade had happened by midnight... it had been agreed upon by both parties, meaning it had taken place. It'd been posted here, meaning it had been recorded.
confirmation is just a formality to assure that one party isn't making something up.
Quote from: Ziplock on November 22, 2012, 01:23:56 AM
Trading Ends: Midnight EST on the day the real national draft is held
the trade had happened by midnight... it had been agreed upon by both parties, meaning it had taken place. It'd been posted here, meaning it had been recorded.
confirmation is just a formality to assure that one party isn't making something up.
haha prietty stupid arguement ::) if a trade is to go through it needs to be posted and then confirmed by the other party involved... thats how all trades in all comps work. This allows other teams if they think its unfair to have the chance to ask for the trade to be put to vote... Since the trade was confirmed after the trade period closed how is that meant to happen??
Im just following the rules and since both parties involved where so anal about my trades why wouldnt i be with yours.... if i gotta follow rules letter by letter so do you boys. Midnight EST trading closed.... cant see the trade confirmed before then so doesnt go through :P
really not trying to start an arguement and think Bashers have one of the best teams in all comps no matter the outcome of this!
Quote from: picker_man on November 22, 2012, 01:38:12 AM
Quote from: Ziplock on November 22, 2012, 01:23:56 AM
Trading Ends: Midnight EST on the day the real national draft is held
the trade had happened by midnight... it had been agreed upon by both parties, meaning it had taken place. It'd been posted here, meaning it had been recorded.
confirmation is just a formality to assure that one party isn't making something up.
haha prietty stupid arguement ::) if a trade is to go through it needs to be posted and then confirmed by the other party involved... thats how all trades in all comps work. This allows other teams if they think its unfair to have the chance to ask for the trade to be put to vote... Since the trade was confirmed after the trade period closed how is that meant to happen??
Im just following the rules and since both parties involved where so anal about my trades why wouldnt i be with yours.... if i gotta follow rules letter by letter so do you boys. Midnight EST trading closed.... cant see the trade confirmed before then so doesnt go through :P
really not trying to start an arguement and think Bashers have one of the best teams in all comps no matter the outcome of this!
if we post screenshota of the pm's between us and zip confirming the trade then itll prove the trade was confirmed. Once the trade is confirmed its posted into this thread
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on November 22, 2012, 01:43:39 AM
Quote from: picker_man on November 22, 2012, 01:38:12 AM
Quote from: Ziplock on November 22, 2012, 01:23:56 AM
Trading Ends: Midnight EST on the day the real national draft is held
the trade had happened by midnight... it had been agreed upon by both parties, meaning it had taken place. It'd been posted here, meaning it had been recorded.
confirmation is just a formality to assure that one party isn't making something up.
haha prietty stupid arguement ::) if a trade is to go through it needs to be posted and then confirmed by the other party involved... thats how all trades in all comps work. This allows other teams if they think its unfair to have the chance to ask for the trade to be put to vote... Since the trade was confirmed after the trade period closed how is that meant to happen??
Im just following the rules and since both parties involved where so anal about my trades why wouldnt i be with yours.... if i gotta follow rules letter by letter so do you boys. Midnight EST trading closed.... cant see the trade confirmed before then so doesnt go through :P
really not trying to start an arguement and think Bashers have one of the best teams in all comps no matter the outcome of this!
if we post screenshota of the pm's between us and zip confirming the trade then itll prove the trade was confirmed. Once the trade is confirmed its posted into this thread
ive confirmed a trade with you guys too ;) but where going to post it in a couple of months but show the other coaches the screenshots of it so they know even though where going to post it in a couple of moths it was confirmed by both of us before the trade period closed..... you see what im saying. Holz cant let this trade go through or we'll all be using the same excuse as you guys do to get around it and then whats the point of rules....
i cant compete with you guys next yr your team is already way to good for mine so dont think its about that, i hate when ppl ruin my trades and hope my comments dont do that for ya's but its more why i had to stick to the rules completely with my trades involving Hp, but you guys dont think you have to is my point
This obviously comes down to Holz's decision but either way you can put it through for 2nd trade period if it doesnt go through in this trade period ;)
so, where's this trades post?
the trade has been made and agreed upon before midnight. Ric made the trade post before midnight informing the competition of the trade that had occurred.
I clarified that the trade ric posted was in fact the trade agreed upon. That that occurred after midnight is irrelevant.
And no offence to holz, but if we need a ruling on this, I'd prefer for it to be from a neutral third party like ossie in this case- holz is personally involved in this too much in the sense that this makes the bashers serious competitors.
yeah Zip i could post plenty of trades.... means flower all till someone has confirmed it ::) How about i put down
Murphy
for
Arnot
ive put this down 10 seconds before trading closed (as you guys did) does that mean the trade is confirmed cause the trade period is over and you havent said anything..... We'll you pop up 2 minutes after the trade period has closed and say NOOOOO i never agreed to that so you'd think the trade is cancelled..... right?? exactly the same as what your trying to argue against atm
If this involved anyone but you Zip you'd be saying the same thing atm since you've been all over the rules but it involves you and you broke the rules so its all good ::)
Quote from: Hellopplz on November 22, 2012, 12:44:32 AM
Quote from: CrowsFan on November 22, 2012, 12:30:54 AM
A late trade between the Bison and Polar Bears...
Bison give Chis Dawes and NAT pick 61
Polar Bears give Xavier Ellis and NAT pick 39
HP to confirm :)
Confirmed.
Was a similar problem with the above trade. Huggy wasn't on tonight to post it, so CF told me he'd post it at 11:30 if he hadn't heard back and sent me a PM to let me know so can confirm it. Planned ahead and got it in within the time :D.
Think as this is first trade period, Holz will be lenient here even though he's reminded us quite a bit about the time ;). Although, could take a tough approach to it and I wouldn't mind that either to make an example although doubt Holz is that type of Euro's Chairman to do so :P. Nonetheless, shall get popcorn out if the discussion continues :D.
Quote from: picker_man on November 22, 2012, 02:06:38 AM
yeah Zip i could post plenty of trades.... means flower all till someone has confirmed it ::) How about i put down
Murphy
for
Arnot
ive put this down 10 seconds before trading closed (as you guys did) does that mean the trade is confirmed cause the trade period is over and you havent said anything..... We'll you pop up 2 minutes after the trade period has closed and say NOOOOO i never agreed to that so you'd think the trade is cancelled..... right?? exactly the same as what your trying to argue against atm
If this involved anyone but you Zip you'd be saying the same thing atm since you've been all over the rules but it involves you and you broke the rules so its all good ::)
if you wrote down murphy for arnot, firstly, I think Holz would exercise his powers to block that trade, but secondly, technically in the competitions eyes, it would appear to be a trade. Until Le came on, and said 'I didn't agree to this, this trade never happened' and then the competition would realise the trade had never occurred, because Le had never agreed to it, it had never infact happened.
I haven't been a massive stickler for the rules- I've pointed out once that you had gone over the max. 15 person trading cap... and you should be thankful I have, because otherwise it would have been picked up post trade period by holz, the trade and any resulting trades would have been reversed, and you and everyone elses teams would have been flowered.
Quote from: Hellopplz on November 22, 2012, 02:10:19 AM
Quote from: Hellopplz on November 22, 2012, 12:44:32 AM
Quote from: CrowsFan on November 22, 2012, 12:30:54 AM
A late trade between the Bison and Polar Bears...
Bison give Chis Dawes and NAT pick 61
Polar Bears give Xavier Ellis and NAT pick 39
HP to confirm :)
Confirmed.
Was a similar problem with the above trade. Huggy wasn't on tonight to post it, so CF told me he'd post it at 11:30 if he hadn't heard back and sent me a PM to let me know so can confirm it. Planned ahead and got it in within the time :D.
Think as this is first trade period, Holz will be lenient here even though he's reminded us quite a bit about the time ;). Although, could take a tough approach to it and I wouldn't mind that either to make an example although doubt Holz is that type of Euro's Chairman to do so :P. Nonetheless, shall get popcorn out if the discussion continues :D.
im not trying to start an arguement as said before so keep that popcorn for another day Hp ;) haha. just dont see why everyone else has to plan ahead but the two ppl involved complaining about our trade are the two involved breaking the rules themselves.... seems harsh to the rest of us if Holz lets it through but isnt as leaniant with other things i.e our trade ;)
So Holz is leaniant all of sudden i have a trade i want to put through, thought the cut of time was a few hours ago but whilst he's being so leaniant i'll chuck this in.... this could go on for a few weeks to come ::) but does mean i get more trading time so actually prietty happy if this happens ;D
Quote from: Ziplock on November 22, 2012, 02:17:45 AM
Quote from: picker_man on November 22, 2012, 02:06:38 AM
yeah Zip i could post plenty of trades.... means flower all till someone has confirmed it ::) How about i put down
Murphy
for
Arnot
ive put this down 10 seconds before trading closed (as you guys did) does that mean the trade is confirmed cause the trade period is over and you havent said anything..... We'll you pop up 2 minutes after the trade period has closed and say NOOOOO i never agreed to that so you'd think the trade is cancelled..... right?? exactly the same as what your trying to argue against atm
If this involved anyone but you Zip you'd be saying the same thing atm since you've been all over the rules but it involves you and you broke the rules so its all good ::)
if you wrote down murphy for arnot, firstly, I think Holz would exercise his powers to block that trade, but secondly, technically in the competitions eyes, it would appear to be a trade. Until Le came on, and said 'I didn't agree to this, this trade never happened' and then the competition would realise the trade had never occurred, because Le had never agreed to it, it had never infact happened.
I haven't been a massive stickler for the rules- I've pointed out once that you had gone over the max. 15 person trading cap... and you should be thankful I have, because otherwise it would have been picked up post trade period by holz, the trade and any resulting trades would have been reversed, and you and everyone elses teams would have been flowered.
lucky we picked up this trade was never confirmed within the allowed trading time otherwise you and the bashers would of been flowerted once Holz realised...... anywayz you spin it Zip you broke the rules ;)
Yeah this is going to be an interesting decision from Holz. I think what works most against the Basher's and Zip is that it was a loooong trade period, like, we all had a ridiculous amount of time to get our trades negotiated and done. Still, I await the outcome curiously.
Zip wtf, you can't just say a 3rd party needs to make the decision not Holz because he is 'involved' too much. Um, last time I checked Holz has been 'involved' in this whole comp from day dot and still made every single other decision there has been so far so why would that change now ? Holz is not going to even consider the fact that it will affect his/Bashers/yours/anyones premiership chances when he makes the decision, it is probably a bit insulting to him to think that he would.
Quote from: Scrads on November 22, 2012, 02:27:36 AM
Yeah this is going to be an interesting decision from Holz. I think what works most against the Basher's and Zip is that it was a loooong trade period, like, we all had a ridiculous amount of time to get our trades negotiated and done. Still, I await the outcome curiously.
Zip wtf, you can't just say a 3rd party needs to make the decision not Holz because he is 'involved' too much. Um, last time I checked Holz has been 'involved' in this whole comp from day dot and still made every single other decision there has been so far so why would that change now ? Holz is not going to even consider the fact that it will affect his/Bashers/yours/anyones premiership chances when he makes the decision, it is probably a bit insulting to him to think that he would.
we have been discussing this trade for ages...months haha but it took until the last hour to agree to terms
here's an argument for you.
'Trading Ends: Midnight EST on the day the real national draft is held.'
EST. When the national draft is held.
The national draft is held in brisbane, which doesn't have daylight saving times- eastern standard time (EST), generally refers to sydney, melbourne, queensland.
However, since we're in daylight savings time, we're an hour ahead.
Brisbane however, is still an hour behind. Therefore the trade was made at 11.01 EST.
Daylight savings time is EDT, not EST.
so the trade stands.
all I have to say, is SMC.
think the trade shuld just be approved for the technical thinking by ziplock
FULL LIST OF TRADES FROM TRADE PERIOD 1:
Dino's Receive: Leuy, Barlow and Palmer
Basher's Receive: Birchall, Blair, Hmac
Dino's Receive: National Picks No.9 and No.38
Basher's Receive: Rookie Pick No.2
Macedonia Receive: Tom Scully
Serbia Receive: Brandon Ellis
Eagles Receive: Michael Barlow
Dino's Receive: Nat Pick 1
Dinos receive: Michael Johnson
Eagles Reciieve: Andrew Walker
Eagles Receive: Goldstein + Harper + Polec
Son's Receive: Shuey + Nat Pick 15 + Nat Pick 30
Macedonia Receive:Gary Rohan + Sam Iles
Scotland Receive:Rookie Pick #12 + National Draft Pick #55
Macedonia Receive:Kurt Tippett + National Draft Pick #35
Scotland Receive:Alex Fasolo + Sharrod Wellingham
Dinos receive: Michael Johnson
Eagles Reciieve: Andrew Walker
The Sons receive: Pick 11 of Rookie Draft, Rookie Pick 25, Pick 26 of the NAT Draft
Stallions receive: Elliott Kavangh, Anthony Miles and Pick 15.
The Sons receive: Trent McKenzie
Trolls receive: Ed Curnow + Pick 55 NAT
The Titans receive: Billie Smedts + Pick 68 Rookie Draft
The Wolves receive: Pick 10 Rookie Draft
The Trolls Recieve : Stevie J + Chris Judd + Hayden Ballantyne
The Wolves Recieve : Michael Hibberd + Tendai Mzungu+ Ben Reid + Liam Summer + NAT pick 5 + NAT pick 55
Trolls Recieve : Rookie Pick 13
Metal Recieve : Corey Enright
Trolls Receive: Newman + Petrie
Dinos Receive: pick 20 + 48 + Hayden Crozier
EAGLES TRADE: TRENT COTCHIN
TROLLS TRADE: SCOTT PENDLEBURY
Norway receive: Jack Redden, Harley Bennell and pick #28 in the national draft.
Sweden receive: Steve Johnson, Scott Thompson (ade) and Lenny Hayes.
Dino's give: Aaron Sandilands and pick 16 of the rookie draft
Savage songs give: pick 21 of Nat and Matt Buntine
Dinos give: Nick Dal Santo
Metal give: Jeff Gartlett, John Butcher and rook pick 27
Trools recieve : Tom Liberatore + Devon Smith + pick 49 NAT draft
Sons recieve : pick 5, 13 and 19 in rookie draft
Bashers Receive: Andrew Carrazzo + national pick 27 + national pick 41
Wolves receive: Josh J Kennedy + Brad Symes + Travis Colyer
Trolls receive: Luke Tapscott + Rookie Pick #24
Bashers receive: Matthew Lobbe + Travis Varcoe
Bison (LH) get: Scotland (Titans), Taylor (trolls), Pick 10 (Titans), Pick 28 (Trolls)
Titans (Spink) get: D. Smith (Trolls), Pick 7 (Bison), Pick 50 (Bison)
Trolls (pickers) get: Stanton (Bison), Pick 67 (Titans)
Trolls recieve - Nathan Foley + Rookie pick 68
Titans recieve - Tom Liberatore + Jed Lamb
Trolls get: C Cornes + G Johncock + M Jamar + A McGrath + B Maloney
Titans get: Tapscott + Morabito + Pick 33 Rookie Draft
Sweden Receive: Pick 10 + 28
Belarus Receive: Sam Mitchell + 56
Norway Receive: Rance + Grundy + Hoskin-Elliot + Pick 36
Belarus Receive: Zorko + Bolton + Pick 49 + Pick 62
Greece Receive: Pick 13
Sweden Receive: Nick Riewoldt
Bison give: N. Jones + Pick 22 + Pick 56
Savage Sons give: Duffield + Pick 30 + Pick 63
Trolls recieve: Westhoff + Rookie Pick 52
Titans recieve: Hoskin Elliott + Nat Pick 67
Serbia Receive: Brett Deledio + Pick 7
Greece Receive: Dylan Shiel + Stephen Coniglio + Brandon Ellis + Daniel Pearce.
Iceland Receive: H. Bennell + A. Rance + C. Judd + H. Grundy
Norway Receive: J. Selwood + B. Harvey + J. Brown
Spain Receive: Matt Priddis+Mitchell Grigg
Serbia Receive: Matthew Boyd.
Scotland Receive: McMahon + Hurn + Nat 13 + Rook 25
Greece Receive: Hannebery + Patton + Rook 34
Vatican Trade: Riewoldt + Nat 19 + Nat 33 + Rookie 32
Belarus trade: Krakouer + Betts + Cunnington + Nat 36 + Rookie 35
Dinos give: Rookie 27 + 44
Trolls give: Nat 34 + 36
Serbia Trade: Rookie 29 + Rookie 43
Norway Trade: Drew Petrie
Serbia Trade: Shane Mumford + Jared Polec + Todd Elton + Nat 44 + Rookie 15
Iceland Trade: Brendan Goddard + Rookie 8
Dutch Gvie: 30
Norway Give: Brad Hill
Bashers Give Patrick Dangerfield, Leroy Jetta, Nick O'Brien
Stallions Give Matthew Priddis, Matthew Wright, National Pick 15
Titans receive: Tom Scully + Rookie 54
Wolves receive: Jed Lamb + Nat 25 + Rookie 24
Scrads gives: Rookie Pick 10 + Ibbotson
Lez gives: Rookie Pick 6 + Rookie Pick 25
Bashers Give - Mitch Morton
Stallions Give - Jasper Pittard, Rookie Pick 39, National Pick 54
Bashers give : Josh Caddy, Jasper Pittard, Nick Suban
Vatican gives :Pick 4 NAT, Pick 36 NAT, Pick 47 NAT, Pick 35 PSD
Macedonia give: Nat Pick 25 + Rookie Pick 26
Scotland give: Rookie Pick 13
Valkyries give: Nat 61
Bisons give: Setana O'hailpin
Scotland give - Hurn + rookie 20 + 26
Trolls give - Ballantyne + rookie 29,30,37,43,44
Greece Gives: Troy Chaplin + Pick 54 Rookie + Pick 66 Rookie
Belarus Gives: Pick 21 Rookie + Pick 49 Rookie + Pick 63 Rookie
Trolls receive: B Sewell + Pick 33 Rookie Draft + Pick 34 Rookie Draft + Pick 49 Rookie Draft
Titans receive: Pick 26 Rookie Draft + Pick 27 Rookie Draft + Pick 41 Rookie Draft + Pick 52 Rookie Draft
Wolves give: rookie 40 + national 35,55
Trolls give: rookie 23
Scrads trades: Gram + Rookie 25
Pickers trades: Foley + Rookie 33
Scotland Recieves: Jared Brennan
Greece Recieves: Pick 37 Rook + Pick 48 Rook
Scrads gives:Hibberd + Petrenko + Rohan + Rookie 13
Lez gives:Hartlett + Rookie 10 + Rookie 30 + Nat 56
Bashers gives: Robin Nahas + Nat 36 + Rook 39
Sons gives: Rook 5
Iceland get: Picks 39 Nat, 50 Nat , 53 Nat
Greece gets: Pick 22 Rook
Nostradamus gives....... Leigh Montagna, Ryan O'Keefe, Courtenay Dempsey, Rookie 42 + Rookie 56
Pickers gives....... Jack Redden, Shannon Hurn, Rookie 25, Nat 35 + Nat 55
Elephants Gives: Brent Moloney
Nostra Gives: National Pick 14
Hawka gives: Waite + Lower + rookie 58
for
Pickers gives: Westhoff + Curnow + rookie 34
Scrads gives:
Pavlich + Colyer + Symes + Nat 56
LE/RIC/FARK/WHOLE OF FF gives:
Varcoe + Rookie 9 + Rookie 51 + Nat 47
Serbia trade chris knights + nat 16 + Campbell Heath
Belgium trade Brodie smith + rookie 35 + rookie 65
Serbia Trades - K.Cornes
Norway Trades - B.Harvey
Scrads trades:
Daniel Gorringe + Liam Sumner
HP trades:
Nat Pick 8 + Nat Pick 44
Scrads trades:
Nat 8 + Nat 12
Hawka trades:
Liam Shiels + Nat 17
Titans give: Pick 38 Rookie
Lions give: Seb Ross (St Kilda)
Holz trades : Brodie Smith and Rookie #8
JB trades: Heath Shaw and Rookie #38
Pickers gives: gibson + rookie 58
Scrads gives: Nat 44 + rookie 51
Pickers trades:Dempsey
HP trades: Rookie 15 + Nat 50
Bashers give: Nat 15 + Rookie 5
Lions give: Nat 3
Bison give Chis Dawes and NAT pick 61
Polar Bears give Xavier Ellis and NAT pick 39
***PENDING TRADES***
Pickers gives: Wells + Talia
HP gives: Chapman + Nat 53
Reason: Trade Period 2
Bashers Give: Adams, lynch, N27 and R2.
Zip Gives: Marc Murphy
Reason: Time-of-trade dispute
OFFICIAL NATIONAL DRAFT ORDER:
1. Hawka
2. Hawka
3. Elephants
4. Elephants
5. Scrads
6. Whatlez
7. Holz
8. Hawka
9. Hawka
10. Meow
11. Torpedo
12. Hawka
13. Whatlez
14. Elephants
15. MTTY
16. Elephants
17. Scrads
18. MTTY
19. Lahug
20. Hakwa
21. Hawka
22. Whatlez
23. HP
24. Elephants
25. Whatlez
26. Whatlez
27. Elephants
28. Meow
29. Nostradamus
30. Lahug
31. Hawka
32. MTTY
33. Lahug
34. Hawka
35. Nostradamus
36. Whatlez
37. HP
38. Hawka
39. LaHug
40. Torpedo
41. Elephants
42. Meow Meow
43. Nostradamus
44. Pickers
45. Hawka
46. MTTY
47. Scrads
48. Hawka
49. Lahug
50. Pickers
51. HP
52. Elephants
53. HP
54. Elephants
55. Nostradamus
56. Elephants
57. Nostradamus
58. Holz
59. Hawka
60. MTTY
61. HP
62. Lahug
63. Lahug
64. Lahug
65. HP
66. Elephants
67. Spinking
68. Torpedo
69. Scrads
70. Meow Meow
71. Nostradamus
CURRENT ROOKIE DRAFT ORDER:
1. Holz
2. Elephants
3. MTTY
4. Ziplock
5. MTTY
6. Scrads
7. Lahug
8. MTTY
9. Scrads
10. Scrads
11. Whatlez
12. Whatlez
13. Whatlez
14. Nostradamus
15. Pickers
16. Whatlez
17. MTTY
18. Ziplock
19. Whatlez
20. Pickers
21. Spinking
22. Spinking
23. Scrads
24. Scrads
25. Nostradamus
26. Spinking
27. Spinking
28. Nostradamus
29. Whatlez
30. Scrads
31. MTTY
32. Lahug
33. Scrads
34. Hawka
35. Holz
36. HP
37. Spinking
38. Holz
39. Whatelz
40. Pickers
41. Spinking
42. Pickers
43. Whatlez
44. Whatlez
45. MTTY
46. Ziplock
47. Pickers
48. Spinking
49. Pickers
50. HP
51. Pickers
52. Spinking
53. Torpedo
54. Lahug
55. Meow Meow
56. Pickers
57. Holz
58. Scrads
59. MTTY
60. Ziplock
61. Pickers
62. Whatlez
63. Spinking
64. HP
65. Holz
66. Lahug
67. Torpedo
68. Pickers
69. Meow Meow
70. Nostradamus
PLEASE CHECK FOR ANY DISCREPANCIES, THE LAST THING WE WANT IS PEOPLE TAKING PICKS THAT BELONG TO SOMEONE ELSE IN THE DRAFTS.
bashers have no rookie picks
Im going to allow the murphy trade: for the reason that the trade was posted up before the dealine and was confirmed jsut 2 minutes after midnight.
I feel that sticking hard to the rule would do little to help the competition and that it is best to let sanity prevail and not to block such a big trade becasue of 2 minutes.
I dont feel allowing it will disadvantage anyone in the comp (besides my premiership hopes :) )
with that bring it on bashers. Murphy is going to have to pull out something huge next year to battle with my big 3.
Just going to point this out regarding the Murphy trade. In soccer they also have trade windows that usually end at 10pm (I think) on whatever date is specified, however once this time has passed there is often a couple of late trades that filter through. These trades had been agreed before the deadline, but the paperwork had not been completed, but they are still allowed to go through.
Similar to this trade. It had been agreed upon and posted before the deadline, but the paperwork (confirmation by zip) had not been completed yet.
the nat draft order is fully updated on the front page, have a look at it and PM me any issues. The draft will happen shorlty after the real draft finishes.
DAMN IT!!!!! flowering O'keefe lost DPP :( lucky i got chapppy in the end
Quote from: Hellopplz on November 22, 2012, 12:44:32 AM
Quote from: CrowsFan on November 22, 2012, 12:30:54 AM
A late trade between the Bison and Polar Bears...
Bison give Chis Dawes and NAT pick 61
Polar Bears give Xavier Ellis and NAT pick 39
HP to confirm :)
Confirmed.
Thanks for doing this, guys! I swear I checked my emails last night for any PMs and there were none... But once I got up this morning, apparently there were. I must have been more tired than I thought......
“@Lumpy0305: Ryan O'Keefe loses his DPP status in '13. #afldreamteam #supercoach"â€
and traded Bolton and now he is a fwd for 2013
:'( :'( :'(
Some of these trades ::) the boys from Belgium are such scammers. :P
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 22, 2012, 05:14:39 PM
Some of these trades ::) the boys from Belgium are such scammers. :P
when you send out 100s of trade offers you have to get some good ones back. I think FARK has probably sent more offers than all the other euro members combined.
the murphy trade was posted wrong but both parties agrred to it it should be
adams, lynch, N27 and R2 for marc, suban
with that im putting the trade up to vote if it should go thorugh. Note this has nothing to do with the trade being late it has to do with the trade being too one sided.
My thoughts if I could.
Marc Murphy - a premium and our new skipper
Nick Suban - huzzah, some reminisce of backline depth!
Rookie 2 - a young 80+ player for zip which when you look at his side is clearly what he's building towards.
Nat 27 - a good pick in such a deep draft and a chance to add more young potential to his already frightening list.
Taylor Adams - average of 75+ in his first season. High draft pick. Dpp. We all know how good he will be one day.
Tom Lynch - average of 70 (much higher if you look at his last 5 or so rounds!) for a kpp in a bottom two side. When GC and their midfield delivery improve, so will Lynch. Could go 90+ in a couple of years. Look out. Zip knows how highly I rate him because I bargained for ages to get him out of the trade to no avail.
So yeah, you gotta look at team motives when making a decision on this trade.
Wait why is Suban now added to the trade? ???
Quote from: CrowsFan on November 22, 2012, 06:35:03 PM
Wait why is Suban now added to the trade? ???
he was originally, i mistyped the deal in a rush to get it in before the deadline :-[
Quote from: Ricochet on November 22, 2012, 12:58:32 AM
Quote from: Ziplock on November 21, 2012, 11:47:14 PM
that's flowering me really, really bad. We both know n41 and N52 are pretty much nothing to me, menaing its pretty much adams, lynch N24 for murphy, which completely rapes me.
I'd accept adams, lynch, N27 and R2 for marc, suban
mate confirmed. I'll post you confirm
Quote from: CrowsFan on November 22, 2012, 06:35:03 PM
Wait why is Suban now added to the trade? ???
My thoughts exactly, apparently it was discussed with Suban but something went wrong in the process.......My view is that the trade can ONLY go through as originally confirmed OFFICIALLY. Suban being included is unfair.
ric had 30 seconds to put it through the deadline.... so he basically just flowered it up.
its goign through as murphy + suban.
The question now is just will it passthe fairness test.
Well on my time it was only 11:00pm.
Well I messed up, I somehow managed to think the second trade period was going to be before the rookie draft and therefore we could trade those picks, just realised I am stuck with the ones I have now :-\
I've been thinking that having the second trade period before the rookie *could* be better.
I mean, having it after the rookie limits the trades in the sense that we can only straight swap (1 for 1, 2 for 2 etc.), since otherwise our lists would be depleted.
Quote from: Scrads on November 23, 2012, 01:30:26 AM
Well I messed up, I somehow managed to think the second trade period was going to be before the rookie draft and therefore we could trade those picks, just realised I am stuck with the ones I have now :-\
if your interested in any of our players i wouldnt mind a few mid range rookie picks :) we could arrange a pre deal
Dangerfield comfirmed as a mid only this year
Torps...how is
Danger + nick obrien + leroy jetta for matt priddis + matthew wright + nat 15 looking now
Lol Torp the spud
Dale Thomas gets Fwd/Mid :D
Wow... Bashers for premiers??
Quote from: Ricochet on November 30, 2012, 02:09:47 PM
Dale Thomas gets Fwd/Mid :D
I knew it, i tired getting him off you guys and bargained too hard and lost him. Would have secured me premiership win.
You guys looking strong now.
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on November 30, 2012, 01:15:23 PM
Dangerfield comfirmed as a mid only this year
Torps...how is
Danger + nick obrien + leroy jetta for matt priddis + matthew wright + nat 15 looking now
It's looking fine for me. Dangerfield is a gun. :)
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 30, 2012, 06:18:03 PM
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on November 30, 2012, 01:15:23 PM
Dangerfield comfirmed as a mid only this year
Torps...how is
Danger + nick obrien + leroy jetta for matt priddis + matthew wright + nat 15 looking now
It's looking fine for me. Dangerfield is a gun. :)
You trolling?
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 30, 2012, 06:18:03 PM
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on November 30, 2012, 01:15:23 PM
Dangerfield comfirmed as a mid only this year
Torps...how is
Danger + nick obrien + leroy jetta for matt priddis + matthew wright + nat 15 looking now
It's looking fine for me. Dangerfield is a gun. :)
But you gave us Priddis who is a 100av mid also, plus Wright an 85 av fwd plus nat 15, which got us ollie wines trhough trading
Just found out Conca is Mid only. That is why Fark is trying to trade him to me ::)
*sigh* pointless discussion, but once again, for the dozenth time, the bashers raped that trade, and it should have been blocked.
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on November 30, 2012, 07:06:18 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 30, 2012, 06:18:03 PM
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on November 30, 2012, 01:15:23 PM
Dangerfield comfirmed as a mid only this year
Torps...how is
Danger + nick obrien + leroy jetta for matt priddis + matthew wright + nat 15 looking now
It's looking fine for me. Dangerfield is a gun. :)
But you gave us Priddis who is a 100av mid also, plus Wright an 85 av fwd plus nat 15, which got us ollie wines trhough trading
no it got you Menzel. I wanted a super young mid and Danger fit the bill perfectly.
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on November 30, 2012, 07:31:39 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 30, 2012, 07:23:50 PM
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on November 30, 2012, 07:06:18 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 30, 2012, 06:18:03 PM
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on November 30, 2012, 01:15:23 PM
Dangerfield comfirmed as a mid only this year
Torps...how is
Danger + nick obrien + leroy jetta for matt priddis + matthew wright + nat 15 looking now
It's looking fine for me. Dangerfield is a gun. :)
But you gave us Priddis who is a 100av mid also, plus Wright an 85 av fwd plus nat 15, which got us ollie wines trhough trading
no it got you Menzel. I wanted a super young mid and Danger fit the bill perfectly.
Menzel was pick 16 which we got from a deal we raped holz in
Brodie Smith + 2 late rookie picks for Knights + Cambell Heath + Menzel
Pick 15 we traded to jb with r5 in return for pick 3 nat whihc secured toumpas/wines
Wouldnt say you raped Holz in that one since he got Shaw in the end from it :P
But Torp you should just ignore the taunts and accept that you made a mistake otherwise you will never live it down ;)
when I say a trade should be blocked, people should listen to me.
aka, Shiels for J. Selwood straight swap last year.
Quote from: Ziplock on November 30, 2012, 08:08:27 PM
when I say a trade should be blocked, people should listen to me.
aka, Shiels for J. Selwood straight swap last year.
I probably would of said something if I was there... on the other trade, Torp is happy lol. Why block?
No reason to block the selwood to shiels trade just because it was a bad trade in hindsight. At the time they were both averaging similar and the only reason for shiels to drop off was his role change.
firstly, selwood averaged like 109 last year, and that includes a concussed game when he got subbed off for like nothing- if you took out the concussion game he averaged like 114. Shiels averaged like 102. Selwood was a proven premium, with a definite spot and role in the team, while shiels was coming off a break out year, and, as its been shown this year, did not have a definite role at the hawks. The only thing shiels had going for him was that he was a couple of years younger than selwood.
selwood went pick 4, shiels went pick 43, pretty much exactly where they should have been. I know a lot of people, including myself, were rating selwood as a top 2 pick (talking about our draft ftr). It was pretty much a biased decision.
It's done now, you can't change it.
ftr
Quote from: Hawka on January 17, 2012, 02:34:06 AM
Before i get heaps of backlash i want to point out this is not a bias move
-Shiels is 3 years younger
-only 6 of selwoods average
-so much room to improve
-hawks will be a force longer then the cats from now
-Wont get tagged for at least 2 more seasons
-He is my fav player :P (hence the 26 in my name :X )
Quote from: Ziplock on March 11, 2012, 11:00:04 AM
you joking hawka. Selwood, taking out his concussed game averaged 114 last year. That's pretty much elite- not many players average over that.
Shiels will, I doubt, ever hit the 110 barrier.
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on March 09, 2012, 08:15:16 PM
except for cooney coniglio that was a shocker
and maybe shiels selwood. Selwood is probs in top 5 in whole of dt, shiels has had one decnt season what ahppens if he goes back to av 80 or 90
OMFG FARK WAS RIGHT!
Quote from: Hawka on March 11, 2012, 10:49:27 AM
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on March 09, 2012, 08:15:16 PM
except for cooney coniglio that was a shocker
and maybe shiels selwood. Selwood is probs in top 5 in whole of dt, shiels has had one decnt season what ahppens if he goes back to av 80 or 90
bahaha back to 80/90?
Shiels is 20 years old and averaged 103 last year,fantastic pre season and can only improve more, in a year or 2 Shiels will averagered around the same or more then selwood
tbh i knew from his debut in 2009 he would be a star
love u shielsy :-*
I am looking to sell big Sandi.
With Maric and the whole Collingwood reserve ruckline I am keen to get a half decent defender or a highish rookie pick for him.
Will look at all offers cept Fark's shower in general.
Quote from: whatlez on November 30, 2012, 10:29:50 PM
I am looking to sell big Sandi.
With Maric and the whole Collingwood reserve ruckline I am keen to get a half decent defender or a highish rookie pick for him.
Will look at all offers cept Fark's shower in general.
Dont want sandi haha
On a side note if your looking for fwds pm me we have plenty of fwds for sale
Inc wright, clancee pearce, knights ect we are after a defender in return xx
And Danny Stanley is available for the the best forward someone can give me.
The Bison are after 1 or 2 high scoring midfielders.
If you have one and are after some forwards come have a chat, we have got Monfries, Stokes, Q. Lynch and L. Jones up for grabs :)
Up for trade at the Trolls
B.Whitecross
L.Montagna
N.Bock
M.Shaw
J.Ashby
D.kent
ROOKIE 15
ROOKIE 20
Looking to offload oe rookie picks. Anyone keen?
Quote from: whatlez on December 02, 2012, 01:38:45 PM
Looking to offload oe rookie picks. Anyone keen?
Yep you saw my list the other day
Guys, I would ask you to please stop using the word rape in this thread and on the forum in general. Continued use of it will mean you'll be receiving warnings and possible suspension if you continue to do so.
We know he is old we know he aves only 70-75 but if anyone needs fwd cover we will take any rookie pick we can get for jpod
Bashers give: Matthew Wright
Jb gives: Danny Stanley
JB to confirm
Reason:jbs fwd line has been decimated by positional changes our def has been decimated by position changes
Confirmed.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 02, 2012, 02:15:44 PM
Confirmed.
Cheers Jb
As much as we love wright and he will be a 95av player, to win the flag this year we need a strong defence
If anyone os interested in Travis Colyer, James Podsiadly, Lincoln Mccarthy or Ben Darrou, we are looking for any rookie pick we can get
Yeah, cheers JB. Good trade.
This deadline ends Sunday yeah?
Would be nice to have a trading period AFTER ~December 14 when DT/SC officially opens for Gold/Assistant Coach
That way we'll know ALL position changes and not just some. That way more people won't get screwed by things like Stanley.
Just my 2c. Could already be planned IDK
Quote from: Nails on December 02, 2012, 03:13:13 PM
This deadline ends Sunday yeah?
Would be nice to have a trading period AFTER ~December 14 when DT/SC officially opens for Gold/Assistant Coach
That way we'll know ALL position changes and not just some. That way more people won't get screwed by things like Stanley.
Just my 2c. Could already be planned IDK
Pre sure there is a preaseason trading period early next year but most positional changes have already been released
Valkyries give: Jed Bews
Bashers give: Dean Towers
Reason: its the second part of the Murphy trade.
Quote from: Ziplock on December 02, 2012, 05:36:09 PM
Valkyries give: Jed Bews
Bashers give: Dean Towers
Reason: its the second part of the Murphy trade.
Accept
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on December 02, 2012, 03:36:28 PM
Quote from: Nails on December 02, 2012, 03:13:13 PM
This deadline ends Sunday yeah?
Would be nice to have a trading period AFTER ~December 14 when DT/SC officially opens for Gold/Assistant Coach
That way we'll know ALL position changes and not just some. That way more people won't get screwed by things like Stanley.
Just my 2c. Could already be planned IDK
Pre sure there is a preaseason trading period early next year but most positional changes have already been released
Correct there will be a trading period for 1 week close to the start of the season. Will be before the nab though
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on December 02, 2012, 05:51:45 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on December 02, 2012, 05:36:09 PM
Valkyries give: Jed Bews
Bashers give: Dean Towers
Reason: its the second part of the Murphy trade.
Accept
Yep, confirmed.
Just so this is done:
Pickers gives: Wells + Talia
HP gives: Chapman + James Ashby (Nat 53)
Was announced first trade period for the 2nd one. Now it's officially done :).
Quote from: Hellopplz on December 03, 2012, 01:35:32 AM
Just so this is done:
Pickers gives: Wells + Talia
HP gives: Chapman + James Ashby (Nat 53)
Was announced first trade period for the 2nd one. Now it's officially done :).
Confirmed.
Macedonia Receive:Kurt Tippett + National Draft Pick #35
Scotland Receive:Alex Fasolo + Sharrod Wellingham
Good win by me :)
You need to win all the trades you can :P
Quote from: whatlez on December 03, 2012, 08:31:57 PM
Macedonia Receive:Kurt Tippett + National Draft Pick #35
Scotland Receive:Alex Fasolo + Sharrod Wellingham
Good win by me :)
Look im against that trade heavily but im not gonna protest
Probably both have ur reasons for the trade
It's already been done Fark ;)
This trade was made like 4 weeks before end of year lol... ::)
Ah ok hahaha
Well then yes you did win that irene
Why does he win that trade ? Tippett will be back for me well before the finals which will be a handy boost ;)
Quote from: Scrads on December 03, 2012, 11:10:55 PM
Why does he win that trade ? Tippett will be back for me well before the finals which will be a handy boost ;)
Fasolo is next didak give him 2 years he will ave 85-95 and wellingham a 85-90 av mid showers all over nat 30 odd
Tippett is a spud
Welly for 100+ at WCE I feel... Should have a more prominent role over here!
Tippett could also go pretty big though depending on where he goes..
I honestly think you were always winning that trade lol.
Quote from: elephants on December 04, 2012, 02:44:38 AM
Welly for 100+ at WCE I feel... Should have a more prominent role over here!
Tippett could also go pretty big though depending on where he goes..
I actual think tippett will go down..he has had walker helping him out if he goes to sydney ir gws he could cop 2tall tag each week he will get more attention and less ball fed to him
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on December 04, 2012, 02:54:55 AM
Quote from: elephants on December 04, 2012, 02:44:38 AM
Welly for 100+ at WCE I feel... Should have a more prominent role over here!
Tippett could also go pretty big though depending on where he goes..
I actual think tippett will go down..he has had walker helping him out if he goes to sydney ir gws he could cop 2tall tag each week he will get more attention and less ball fed to him
Patton-Tippett could be insane in a few years with the service they are likely to receive.
Wellingham will average 90 at WC absolute MAX IMO.
Fasolo will be decent but can't really see him hitting 90 anytime soon.
Kurt will have a better average if he doesn't get injury-affected scores and also when he starts kicking better. I also picked him up in the hope he will be R/F. And when I traded him Sharrod was still at Collingwood.
Quote from: Scrads on December 04, 2012, 03:25:05 AM
Wellingham will average 90 at WC absolute MAX IMO.
Fasolo will be decent but can't really see him hitting 90 anytime soon.
Kurt will have a better average if he doesn't get injury-affected scores and also when he starts kicking better. I also picked him up in the hope he will be R/F. And when I traded him Sharrod was still at Collingwood.
It's not a bad trade at the time. Given the events since though you do lose out short term.
Quote from: Ziplock on December 04, 2012, 02:48:44 AM
I honestly think you were always winning that trade lol.
Yeah but now it's the word that HP doesn't want us to say lol
If anyone is looking for depth players then rhys shaw, james podsiadly, travis colyer are all on the table for rookie picks
Quote from: whatlez on December 04, 2012, 11:54:31 AM
Quote from: Ziplock on December 04, 2012, 02:48:44 AM
I honestly think you were always winning that trade lol.
Yeah but now it's the word that HP doesn't want us to say lol
Thanks :D.
I am having a hard time trying to find who has rookie draft picks 3-6. Is there a list where I can see who has what picks? Thanks
Quote from: Spite on December 04, 2012, 11:12:50 PM
I am having a hard time trying to find who has rookie draft picks 3-6. Is there a list where I can see who has what picks? Thanks
very first page of this thread
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on December 04, 2012, 11:13:47 PM
Quote from: Spite on December 04, 2012, 11:12:50 PM
I am having a hard time trying to find who has rookie draft picks 3-6. Is there a list where I can see who has what picks? Thanks
very first page of this thread
hahahaha Toga and I were looking for ages, thanks!
Trade between me and Nails. His first i think 8)
Metal Gives: D.Martin + J.Hombsch + D.Myers
Trolls Give: L.Montagana + J.Brown + S.Dempster
Needed some youth and happy to get Dusty in the fwd line
Nails to confirm
looks like metal is trying to push for the flag... :P
Quote from: picker_man on December 04, 2012, 11:47:39 PM
Trade between me and Nails. His first i think 8)
Metal Gives: D.Martin + J.Hombsch + D.Myers
Trolls Give: L.Montagana + J.Brown + S.Dempster
Needed some youth and happy to get Dusty in the fwd line
Nails to confirm
Confirmed.
Whilst we're at it, Ziplock's statement: Confirmed.
Only a minor trade guys, nothing to see here...
Brent Stanton + Dustin Martin + Rookie 15 + Jack Hombsch
for
GAJ + Porplyzia + Travis Varcoe + Rookie 30
Pickers to confirm
Terrible trade
80 average mid, a 2014 90 average mid, a spud pick and a spud defender
:X
Quote from: Nails on December 07, 2012, 01:41:30 AM
Terrible trade
80 average mid, a 2014 90 average mid, a spud pick and a spud defender
:X
Tabs, Lez, Ric, LE, Holz all agreed your offer wasn't as good :P
Scrads: "Can't you make decisions for yourself"
Then you went and asked 5 different people for advice on our trade or rather, our non-trade? ;)
Quote from: Nails on December 07, 2012, 01:48:39 AM
Scrads: "Can't you make decisions for yourself"
Then you went and asked 5 different people for advice on our trade or rather, our non-trade? ;)
The difference was, you wouldn't even negotiate without PB there haha.
Pickers expect a few trade offers from me if this goes thru #gaj
Quote from: Scrads on December 07, 2012, 01:50:04 AM
Quote from: Nails on December 07, 2012, 01:48:39 AM
Scrads: "Can't you make decisions for yourself"
Then you went and asked 5 different people for advice on our trade or rather, our non-trade? ;)
The difference was, you wouldn't even negotiate without PB there haha.
haha, scrads you didnt tell me that Nails was serious about that trade, i thought it was a joke
Quote from: Scrads on December 07, 2012, 01:39:06 AM
Only a minor trade guys, nothing to see here...
Brent Stanton + Dustin Martin + Rookie 15 + Jack Hombsch
for
GAJ + Porplyzia + Travis Varcoe + Rookie 30
Pickers to confirm
Will most likely regret trading Dusty but its hard to turn down a trade with argueably the best player in it 8)
Confirmed.
You realise Varcoe is a 100 average player next year? Has been earmarked as a jet! Stays fit = 100 ave.
Quote from: Nails on December 07, 2012, 02:00:10 AM
You realise Varcoe is a 100 average player next year? Has been earmarked as a jet! Stays fit = 100 ave.
Quote from: Nails on December 07, 2012, 01:41:30 AM
Terrible trade
80 average mid, a 2014 90 average mid, a spud pick and a spud defender
:X
These posts either should be posted in 2013 Trevor Marmalade Award running count/ nominations or he jokes thread
Quote from: Nails on December 07, 2012, 02:00:10 AM
You realise Varcoe is a 100 average player next year? Has been earmarked as a jet! Stays fit = 100 ave.
I call troll.
Quote from: elephants on December 07, 2012, 02:22:24 AM
Quote from: Nails on December 07, 2012, 02:00:10 AM
You realise Varcoe is a 100 average player next year? Has been earmarked as a jet! Stays fit = 100 ave.
I call troll.
I call bullshower.
Bashers give Troy Menzel
Lions give Sam Gibson
Jb to confirm
Confirmed. Been trying to ship him off since I took over and finally got a bite and a much needed future gun forward.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 07, 2012, 03:23:19 PM
Confirmed. Been trying to ship him off since I took over and finally got a bite and a much needed future gun forward.
Hahaha like he is a spud or something
Mature midfielder at Roos in best 22 and averaged 97 if you dont include his sub game hahaha
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on December 07, 2012, 03:25:14 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 07, 2012, 03:23:19 PM
Confirmed. Been trying to ship him off since I took over and finally got a bite and a much needed future gun forward.
Hahaha like he is a spud or something
Mature midfielder at Roos in best 22 and averaged 97 if you dont include his sub game hahaha
Fair trade i reckon, Menzel will be a jet but just wasnt required at bashers with our fwd strength
Yep, cheers JBs. Good trade man.
Like Fark said, while Menzel will be a jet, we didn't need him with our depth and quality in the forward line!
Gibbo is a great get and will slot in nicely at Utility position 2 ;)
wait, so there's no voting on the trades in this comp? Because that Gary Ablett trade is not even.
Quote from: SilkySkills on December 07, 2012, 04:45:44 PM
wait, so there's no voting on the trades in this comp? Because that Gary Ablett trade is not even.
Yeah there is voting. If Holz decides or enough people deem it to be uneven then a trade will be put to a vote.
From what ive read the only coach is Nails that has thought it was uneven, so i dont think warrants a vote atm unless more coaches agree as he was someone i was bidding against :P
I'm not sure what favour it in. Surely it's in Scrads' favour, but Pickers does gain Gary and some decent players...
Quote from: picker_man on December 07, 2012, 05:00:43 PM
Quote from: SilkySkills on December 07, 2012, 04:45:44 PM
wait, so there's no voting on the trades in this comp? Because that Gary Ablett trade is not even.
Yeah there is voting. If Holz decides or enough people deem it to be uneven then a trade will be put to a vote.
From what ive read the only coach is Nails that has thought it was uneven, so i dont think warrants a vote atm unless more coaches agree as he was someone i was bidding against :P
this is correct if a few coaches come to me saying its unfair i put it to a vote. I think this one is pretty even there were a few guys gunning for ablett and this was the best pick. I think there has been alot worse trades done, stants and martin have alot of upside. Ablett is a gun sure but he doesnt have that long left.
Stanton averaged 78 in his last 7 games of the season.
GAJ > Dustin
Varcoe > Stanton
Porplyzia > 15
30 > Hombsch
Scrads loses huge.
I thought it was a pretty legit trade?
what did Stants average in his first 7
Quote from: Nails on December 07, 2012, 05:04:47 PM
Stanton averaged 78 in his last 7 games of the season.
GAJ > Dustin
Varcoe > Stanton
Porplyzia > 15
30 > Hombsch
Scrads loses huge.
injury prone 24 year old forward with a career high worth more than a guy coming of a 107 average season(106 the year before) , i just dont see it.
Whilst if I were scrads I woulda demanded more and steered well clear of Stanton. The trAde is not so one sided it needs to be blocked. Just because scraps loses the trade doesn't mean it's block worthy.
Nails is just pissed he didn't get Ablett haha!
Scrads had 3 trades and took the worst for him? lol.
He coulda had Bruest and 2 of Griffen, Montagna, Nick Dal Santo, Cross, Cooney for Gary if he asked, along with Stef Martin and Pedobear. All these names were thrown up in the trade dicussions. Better than the trade that went through for sure.
Quote from: SilkySkills on December 07, 2012, 05:40:44 PM
He coulda had Bruest and 2 of Griffen, Montagna, Nick Dal Santo, Cross, Cooney for Gary if he asked, along with Stef Martin and Pedobear. All these names were thrown up in the trade dicussions. Better than the trade that went through for sure.
Thanks for your input PB :)
SS=PB!?!!?!?!?!?!?
:o
Quote from: elephants on December 07, 2012, 05:33:45 PM
Nails is just pissed he didn't get Ablett haha!
How the flower does porplyzia beat stanton what the flower are u smoking nails
Varcoe = 15
Its fair
2 premiums for 1 premium and some dud fwds
Quote from: Scrads on December 07, 2012, 07:31:07 PM
Quote from: SilkySkills on December 07, 2012, 05:40:44 PM
He coulda had Bruest and 2 of Griffen, Montagna, Nick Dal Santo, Cross, Cooney for Gary if he asked, along with Stef Martin and Pedobear. All these names were thrown up in the trade dicussions. Better than the trade that went through for sure.
Thanks for your input PB :)
I just had to say it. :P
Quote from: elephants on December 07, 2012, 07:38:29 PM
SS=PB!?!!?!?!?!?!?
:o
Bloody Nails figured me out after 65 posts. >:( Not even close to the 1000 i weas hoping to accumulate without anyone figuring me out.
Hahaa I wouldn't have picked it at all :P
haha, welcome back pb.
you affiliated with your old team, or a new one?
He gives Nails bulk advice and hurled abuse at the Greek Titans on chat so I'm guessing he's with the new squad..
Nailed it ;)
Trollololol. After all that and he makes an appearance in no time ::)
Quote from: whatlez on December 08, 2012, 01:12:16 AM
Trollololol. After all that and he makes an appearance in no time ::)
I can leave again if you wish. :) Or I'll just not get myself associated with those that don't want me here. The 2nd option is probably easier. :)
Quote from: Ziplock on December 07, 2012, 11:51:48 PM
haha, welcome back pb.
you affiliated with your old team, or a new one?
I have to earn everything, I don't want to be pushed straight back into all 4 comps like i was as there's alot of people who are ahead of me in the line. I'm Nails'
assistant in Euros and that is all. :)
Quote from: elephants on December 07, 2012, 11:56:06 PM
He gives Nails bulk advice and hurled abuse at the Greek Titans on chat so I'm guessing he's with the new squad..
Yes, well let's just say the way the new coach is running the Greek side is not how I'd be running it. :) Heard Spink isn't in the greatest condition atm though, hope he recovers quickly :)
I did think it was a little suss that you were on chat every time I logged on.
Oh well, welcome back :)
Quote from: whatlez on December 08, 2012, 12:09:28 PM
I did think it was a little suss that you were on chat every time I logged on.
Oh well, welcome back :)
That's only since I've come back from Europe, I was gone for a good 7 weeks though. Shows how addictive this site is. :P
I'm looking for some youngsters if anyone is keen.
Willing to give up many of my depth players like Sandi, Gault, Witts, Silvangi, Rohan, Poupolo, McMahon, Welly etc.
Anyone keen cept Fark (lol), PM or FB.
the drat is being pushed back a few days so we can get a full list of postions. Therefore we will have a few more days of trading too.
I like this very much!
so roughly when will it be?
Quote from: Ziplock on December 08, 2012, 11:40:06 PM
so roughly when will it be?
I heard some people will have access to it on the 16th or the 17th. So if its the 16th for example than the list lodgement of 40 players or less will need to be in by the 15th at 11:59pm AEST and trading period would close 14th at 11:59pm AEST.
Im not getting access to the DPP lists so will need to find away to get them
Quote from: Holzman on December 08, 2012, 11:44:32 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on December 08, 2012, 11:40:06 PM
so roughly when will it be?
I heard some people will have access to it on the 16th or the 17th. So if its the 16th for example than the list lodgement of 40 players or less will need to be in by the 15th at 11:59pm AEST and trading period would close 14th at 11:59pm AEST.
Im not getting access to the DPP lists so will need to find away to get them
Monty is pretty quick updating the entire fanplanner :)
Quote from: Holzman on December 08, 2012, 11:44:32 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on December 08, 2012, 11:40:06 PM
so roughly when will it be?
I heard some people will have access to it on the 16th or the 17th. So if its the 16th for example than the list lodgement of 40 players or less will need to be in by the 15th at 11:59pm AEST and trading period would close 14th at 11:59pm AEST.
Im not getting access to the DPP lists so will need to find away to get them
whens the current trade period ending?
Quote from: Ziplock on December 08, 2012, 11:54:48 PM
Quote from: Holzman on December 08, 2012, 11:44:32 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on December 08, 2012, 11:40:06 PM
so roughly when will it be?
I heard some people will have access to it on the 16th or the 17th. So if its the 16th for example than the list lodgement of 40 players or less will need to be in by the 15th at 11:59pm AEST and trading period would close 14th at 11:59pm AEST.
Im not getting access to the DPP lists so will need to find away to get them
whens the current trade period ending?
2 days before the dpp lists come out, i need to work out when they are coming.
David Myers for Rookie Pick 19.
Pickers to confirm.
Quote from: whatlez on December 09, 2012, 12:18:41 AM
David Myers for Rookie Pick 19.
Pickers to confirm.
Confirmed.
Holz gives: Rookie 1 + Rookie 35 + Rookie 57
Scrads gives: Rookie 6 + Rookie 15 + Rookie 33
Lez gives: Aaron Sandilands + Rookie 39 + Rookie 43
Holz gets: Aaron Sandilands + Rookie 6
Scrads gets: Rookie 1 + Rookie 39 + Rookie 43 + Rookie 57
Lez gets: Rookie 15 + Rookie 33 + Rookie 35
Quote from: Scrads on December 09, 2012, 12:29:31 AM
Holz gives: Rookie 1 + Rookie 35 + Rookie 57
Scrads gives: Rookie 6 + Rookie 15 + Rookie 33
Lez gives: Aaron Sandilands + Rookie 39 + Rookie 43
Holz gets: Aaron Sandilands + Rookie 6
Scrads gets: Rookie 1 + Rookie 39 + Rookie 43 + Rookie 57
Lez gets: Rookie 15 + Rookie 33 + Rookie 35
confrimed
reason: The guy i want in the rookie I hope slips to 6. Sandi is old and super injury prone but if he can play 10+ he should help when he plays. Just have to hope he is up for the finals.
Yeah confirmed too. Wanted to offload the big fella and get one rookie picks in addition.
James Frawley for Rookie Picks 29 and 33.
Need some consistent playing defenders. Frawley fits the bill.
Jb to confirm.
Confirm
I'm lost when it comes to Rook Order and trades...
The Lions and Trolls have reached an agreement 8)
2 part trade as i have no list movements left (both need to go through or other is cancelled)
Lions Give: L.Dalhaus + Rookie 17 + D.Mundy
Trolls Give: J.Porplyzia + M.Shaw + J.Selwood
Reason: Losing a premium mid is a big loss but taking a punt Mundy will ave more next yr and happy to get a bit some youth in Dalhaus who will be a gun i reckon :)
JB to confirm.
Confirmed just building my super midfield ready for swan and gajs retirement :)
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 09, 2012, 04:20:23 PM
Confirmed just building my super midfield ready for swan and gajs retirement :)
Thats when Cotch takes over ;)
Beamer got him covered :P
Pickers gives: Picks 20 and 42.
Whatlez gives: Pick 15.
Quote from: whatlez on December 09, 2012, 04:43:57 PM
Pickers gives: Picks 20 and 42.
Whatlez gives: Pick 15.
Confirm.
Reason: Need more numbers as I may be losing some soon and possible delistings.
Scrads trades: 24 + 39 + 58
Lez trades: 20 + 35
Quote from: Scrads on December 09, 2012, 04:54:22 PM
Scrads trades: 24 + 39 + 58
Lez trades: 20 + 35
Confirm. Need more players.
Selwood bouncing from club to club and he is yet to be offered to the eagles where he is rated the highest. We would have beaten all the trades down for him.
Who says he can't move again :P
Quote from: Holzman on December 09, 2012, 07:13:55 PM
Selwood bouncing from club to club and he is yet to be offered to the eagles where he is rated the highest. We would have beaten all the trades down for him.
I have made numerous offers for him
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on December 09, 2012, 07:16:50 PM
Quote from: Holzman on December 09, 2012, 07:13:55 PM
Selwood bouncing from club to club and he is yet to be offered to the eagles where he is rated the highest. We would have beaten all the trades down for him.
I have made numerous offers for him
I told you how to get him. Numerous offers isnt going to get you anywhere.
Selwood may be a good player and good for DT but man I just hate him haha, I would never have him in my team I would just trade him straight away.
I have gone to declaration that I will not talk to any of Ele, Ric or Fark about trades. The Bashers try rob everyone and shows. Especially for the biggest spud of them, Ziplock.
Quote from: whatlez on December 09, 2012, 07:36:36 PM
I have gone to declaration that I will not talk to any of Ele, Ric or Fark about trades. The Bashers try rob everyone and shows. Especially for the biggest spud of them, Ziplock.
hahaha why would we make a trade if it doesn't benefit us
we're not giving up an 80 fwd for rookie picks when the rookie draft has flower all decent fwds
Quote from: Ricochet on December 09, 2012, 07:43:25 PM
Quote from: whatlez on December 09, 2012, 07:36:36 PM
I have gone to declaration that I will not talk to any of Ele, Ric or Fark about trades. The Bashers try rob everyone and shows. Especially for the biggest spud of them, Ziplock.
hahaha why would we make a trade if it doesn't benefit us
we're not giving up an 80 fwd for rookie picks when the rookie draft has flower all decent fwds
Mate you have Jpod.
Looking for a decent Forward or Defender. Willing to give up all of my rookie picks. Say a 3 for 1 deal.
Quote from: whatlez on December 09, 2012, 07:46:29 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 09, 2012, 07:43:25 PM
Quote from: whatlez on December 09, 2012, 07:36:36 PM
I have gone to declaration that I will not talk to any of Ele, Ric or Fark about trades. The Bashers try rob everyone and shows. Especially for the biggest spud of them, Ziplock.
hahaha why would we make a trade if it doesn't benefit us
we're not giving up an 80 fwd for rookie picks when the rookie draft has flower all decent fwds
Mate you have Jpod.
so because we have great cover we should trade it away
Jesus I am confused what picks I have now... :-\ :-X I have traded most of them around :S
Nails trades: Luke Breust and Pedobear (Pederson)
Scrads trades: Rookie 1 + 23
Hmm Scrads must be throwing away next year... :-X
PM me if you're after mids...
Mids available for trade
Lenny Hayes
Daniel Cross
Nick Dal Santo
Adam Cooney
Ryan Griffen
Mitch Wallis
Adam Treloar (M/F)
Brock McLean
Leigh Montagna
Jonathan O'Rourke.
Don't you mean Rookie Pick One? ;)
Surely someone wants some of these players, i'm amazed that we have so many. o.O
Throwing away my top rookie picks. 3 more gone
12, 16, 24
for
Dahl and 49.
Pickers to confirm.
Reason: Need a pretty handy forward.
Quote from: whatlez on December 09, 2012, 08:31:10 PM
Throwing away my top rookie picks. 3 more gone
12, 16, 24
for
Dahl and 49.
Pickers to confirm.
Reason: Need a pretty handy forward.
Confirm.
Quote from: SilkySkills on December 09, 2012, 08:26:42 PM
Surely someone wants some of these players, i'm amazed that we have so many. o.O
You do have a big excess of average MIDs. Surely that means they come cheap as they are not doing anything for you guys
Quote from: Holzman on December 09, 2012, 08:37:34 PM
Quote from: SilkySkills on December 09, 2012, 08:26:42 PM
Surely someone wants some of these players, i'm amazed that we have so many. o.O
You do have a big excess of average MIDs. Surely that means they come cheap as they are not doing anything for you guys
Depth is key. They are all important even if it's waiting for others to get injured.
Quote from: Holzman on December 09, 2012, 08:37:34 PM
Quote from: SilkySkills on December 09, 2012, 08:26:42 PM
Surely someone wants some of these players, i'm amazed that we have so many. o.O
You do have a big excess of average MIDs. Surely that means they come cheap as they are not doing anything for you guys
They average enough to be a utility in pretty much every other team. So that means they are 14th-17th player in most teams, they'll be traded accordingly. Obvs some are better than others.
Up for trade at the Trolls
B.Whitecross
T.Varcoe
N.Lower
Rookie 12,15,16,17,19,24
Quote from: whatlez on December 09, 2012, 07:36:36 PM
I have gone to declaration that I will not talk to any of Ele, Ric or Fark about trades. The Bashers try rob everyone and shows. Especially for the biggest spud of them, Ziplock.
I'm not part of the bashers firstly :P
secondly- we'll see who raped in a year or two :P
Quote from: Ziplock on December 09, 2012, 09:45:42 PM
Quote from: whatlez on December 09, 2012, 07:36:36 PM
I have gone to declaration that I will not talk to any of Ele, Ric or Fark about trades. The Bashers try rob everyone and shows. Especially for the biggest spud of them, Ziplock.
I'm not part of the bashers firstly :P
secondly- we'll see who raped in a year or two :P
Whatlez you offered me alex silvagni and corey gault for oliver wines
Your the one we dont wanna be trading with haha
Quote from: Holzman on December 09, 2012, 07:13:55 PM
Selwood bouncing from club to club and he is yet to be offered to the eagles where he is rated the highest. We would have beaten all the trades down for him.
I don't mind keeping him, but the offer was too good to refuse for me :-X.
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on December 09, 2012, 09:55:39 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on December 09, 2012, 09:45:42 PM
Quote from: whatlez on December 09, 2012, 07:36:36 PM
I have gone to declaration that I will not talk to any of Ele, Ric or Fark about trades. The Bashers try rob everyone and shows. Especially for the biggest spud of them, Ziplock.
I'm not part of the bashers firstly :P
secondly- we'll see who raped in a year or two :P
Whatlez you offered me alex silvagni and corey gault for oliver wines
Your the one we dont wanna be trading with haha
*You're
Quote from: SilkySkills on December 09, 2012, 10:02:18 PM
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on December 09, 2012, 09:55:39 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on December 09, 2012, 09:45:42 PM
Quote from: whatlez on December 09, 2012, 07:36:36 PM
I have gone to declaration that I will not talk to any of Ele, Ric or Fark about trades. The Bashers try rob everyone and shows. Especially for the biggest spud of them, Ziplock.
I'm not part of the bashers firstly :P
secondly- we'll see who raped in a year or two :P
Whatlez you offered me alex silvagni and corey gault for oliver wines
Your the one we dont wanna be trading with haha
*You're
:). And Zip I'm talking about the Murphy trade.
And the Silv and Gault Also included several rookie picks... Not just two and did send you fcking shower offers to show you how all of us feel.l
Quote from: whatlez on December 09, 2012, 08:07:45 PM
Hmm Scrads must be throwing away next year... :-X
Um, why ?
Quote from: Nails on December 09, 2012, 08:05:07 PM
Nails trades: Luke Breust and Pedobear (Pederson)
Scrads trades: Rookie 1 + 23
Confirm, sorry for the delay
Quote from: tabs on December 09, 2012, 11:27:38 PM
Quote from: Nails on December 09, 2012, 08:05:07 PM
Nails trades: Luke Breust and Pedobear (Pederson)
Scrads trades: Rookie 1 + 23
Confirm, sorry for the delay
Why did you have to confirm? ???
Quote from: whatlez on December 09, 2012, 11:35:35 PM
Quote from: tabs on December 09, 2012, 11:27:38 PM
Quote from: Nails on December 09, 2012, 08:05:07 PM
Nails trades: Luke Breust and Pedobear (Pederson)
Scrads trades: Rookie 1 + 23
Confirm, sorry for the delay
Why did you have to confirm? ???
Because if trades don't get confirmed they don't go through ?
Quote from: Scrads on December 09, 2012, 11:41:29 PM
Quote from: whatlez on December 09, 2012, 11:35:35 PM
Quote from: tabs on December 09, 2012, 11:27:38 PM
Quote from: Nails on December 09, 2012, 08:05:07 PM
Nails trades: Luke Breust and Pedobear (Pederson)
Scrads trades: Rookie 1 + 23
Confirm, sorry for the delay
Why did you have to confirm? ???
Because if trades don't get confirmed they don't go through ?
Well was wondering hy you didn't confirm... ::)
Quote from: whatlez on December 09, 2012, 11:47:03 PM
Quote from: Scrads on December 09, 2012, 11:41:29 PM
Quote from: whatlez on December 09, 2012, 11:35:35 PM
Quote from: tabs on December 09, 2012, 11:27:38 PM
Quote from: Nails on December 09, 2012, 08:05:07 PM
Nails trades: Luke Breust and Pedobear (Pederson)
Scrads trades: Rookie 1 + 23
Confirm, sorry for the delay
Why did you have to confirm? ???
Because if trades don't get confirmed they don't go through ?
Well was wondering hy you didn't confirm... ::)
Tabs asked me on fb if he should confirm and I said yes
Bison made a trade with pickers (trolls I think)
We trade Jack Riewoldt and get David Mundy
Quote from: CrowsFan on December 10, 2012, 12:05:49 AM
Bison made a trade with pickers (trolls I think)
We trade Jack Riewoldt and get David Mundy
Confirmed. Really wanted Riewoldt 8)
Quote from: picker_man on December 10, 2012, 12:16:02 AM
Quote from: CrowsFan on December 10, 2012, 12:05:49 AM
Bison made a trade with pickers (trolls I think)
We trade Jack Riewoldt and get David Mundy
Confirmed. Really wanted Riewoldt 8)
And really won the trade.
I don't see why when we are trading away essentially our 6th best forward for a midfielder who will be in our top 4. Mundy had a poor season this year since he had no preseason, but averaged 99 in his last 9 games. With a full preseason I reckon he will average over 100
I would have traded riewoldt for mundy in a heart beat :P
Quote from: tabs on December 09, 2012, 11:27:38 PM
Quote from: Nails on December 09, 2012, 08:05:07 PM
Nails trades: Luke Breust and Pedobear (Pederson)
Scrads trades: Rookie 1 + 23
Confirm, sorry for the delay
Pedersen is worth about rook 23 and bruest should be delisted
That trade is an absolute shocker
yes...
breust, a 22 yo forward who averaged 76 should be delisted... :P
Quote from: Ziplock on December 10, 2012, 02:35:11 AM
yes...
breust, a 22 yo forward who averaged 76 should be delisted... :P
He is average. He wuldnt get a gig at the bashers
My take was if they were both in the rookie draft Breust would go 1-4 (he would be the best forward) and Pedo would go 10-20.
Breust will go 80-85 next year :)
Hoping Breust and Pedobear don't get any games next year lol.
Mundy for J.Riewoldt is a massive win to CF.
Obviously im Freo biased, but seriously...
Mundy didn't have a pre-season this year, yet still averaged 91.7 if you remove his sub affected games of 49 & 57. He finally built up match fitness towards the end of the year, and averaged a massive 112 in the last 5 games. Considering that he averaged 106 in 2011 (if you remove the 2 when he broke his foot), he should easily push 100-105+.
In Riewoldt's career best season, he only averaged 83.6. Richmond will improve a lot, but I still cant see him averaging more than 85ish as an inconsistent KPF.
Quote from: Scrads on December 10, 2012, 02:42:09 AM
My take was if they were both in the rookie draft Breust would go 1-4 (he would be the best forward) and Pedo would go 10-20.
Breust will go 80-85 next year :)
actually, he'd be 3rd best... but not by much :P
an average of100 by mundy would rank him around 20th for mids, similarly, an average of 85 would rank riewoldt around 20th for forwards. Mundy will be 28, riewoldt 25.
Even trade :P
Quote from: Ziplock on December 10, 2012, 03:22:27 AM
Quote from: Scrads on December 10, 2012, 02:42:09 AM
My take was if they were both in the rookie draft Breust would go 1-4 (he would be the best forward) and Pedo would go 10-20.
Breust will go 80-85 next year :)
actually, he'd be 3rd best... but not by much :P
an average of100 by mundy would rank him around 20th for mids, similarly, an average of 85 would rank riewoldt around 20th for forwards. Mundy will be 28, riewoldt 25.
Even trade :P
He will average more than both of those other forwards next year and is also a lot younger than both :P
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on December 10, 2012, 02:31:42 AM
Quote from: tabs on December 09, 2012, 11:27:38 PM
Quote from: Nails on December 09, 2012, 08:05:07 PM
Nails trades: Luke Breust and Pedobear (Pederson)
Scrads trades: Rookie 1 + 23
Confirm, sorry for the delay
Pedersen is worth about rook 23 and bruest should be delisted
That trade is an absolute shocker
... Trevor Marmelade or...? :P
Quote from: whatlez on December 09, 2012, 10:44:01 PM
Quote from: SilkySkills on December 09, 2012, 10:02:18 PM
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on December 09, 2012, 09:55:39 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on December 09, 2012, 09:45:42 PM
Quote from: whatlez on December 09, 2012, 07:36:36 PM
I have gone to declaration that I will not talk to any of Ele, Ric or Fark about trades. The Bashers try rob everyone and shows. Especially for the biggest spud of them, Ziplock.
I'm not part of the bashers firstly :P
secondly- we'll see who raped in a year or two :P
Whatlez you offered me alex silvagni and corey gault for oliver wines
Your the one we dont wanna be trading with haha
*You're
:). And Zip I'm talking about the Murphy trade.
And the Silv and Gault Also included several rookie picks... Not just two and did send you fcking shower offers to show you how all of us feel.l
Hahahaha settle down tiger!
This really isn't fair. Whatlez let's every other team *insert word that HP doesn't like* their trades but when it comes to us he gets all menstrual... WHERE IS THE JUSTICE!?!?!?
Ok to sum up.
Jpod will be a bashers premiership player in 2013 hahaha
Breust should not be delisted, but does not compensate for Brock McLean so the trade is a shocker.
Mundy flogs Jroo in DT and CF killed the trade.
That is my thoughts on the events that transpired last night.
Pfft id trade McLean for Breust in a heartbeat
Quote from: whatlez on December 10, 2012, 08:09:38 AM
Ok to sum up.
Jpod will be a bashers premiership player in 2013 hahaha
Breust should not be delisted, but does not compensate for Brock McLean so the trade is a shocker.
Mundy flogs Jroo in DT and CF killed the trade.
That is my thoughts on the events that transpired last night.
Mclean isnt locked in to go 1, i lost faith in him so i gave up pick 1 for that reason. IF he falls to 6 i might take, I would rather breust than pick 1.
100+ ave mid ???
Not sure on this one
Quote from: whatlez on December 10, 2012, 08:09:38 AM
Mundy flogs Jroo in DT and CF killed the trade.
Wait last night you said pickers won the trade didn't you?
Quote from: whatlez on December 10, 2012, 12:33:59 AM
Quote from: picker_man on December 10, 2012, 12:16:02 AM
Quote from: CrowsFan on December 10, 2012, 12:05:49 AM
Bison made a trade with pickers (trolls I think)
We trade Jack Riewoldt and get David Mundy
Confirmed. Really wanted Riewoldt 8)
And really won the trade.
Who flowering cares who won ::) An 80+ fwd 4yrs younger for a mid who might ave 95+ but has only done it once before...... i got the guy i really wanted and would of payed a whole lot flowering more for him then a 28yr mid so im happy and if CF is happy aswell thats all that matters
Quote from: picker_man on December 10, 2012, 12:31:04 PM
Who flowering cares who won ::) An 80+ fwd 4yrs younger for a mid who might ave 95+ but has only done it once before...... i got the guy i really wanted and would of payed a whole lot flowering more for him then a 28yr mid so im happy and if CF is happy aswell thats all that matters
Yep, well said.
Too many people think that others care about their opinions in this thread hahaha!
Forgot to post a trade up, was done a while ago. I already made my changes on my team thread :)
Holz trades: Ahmeed Saad + Rookie 38
JB trades: Craig Moller
Quote from: whatlez on December 10, 2012, 11:34:56 AM
100+ ave mid ???
Not sure on this one
VERY big doubts on McLean backing up last years average. Even his JS isn't 100%.
Quote from: whatlez on December 10, 2012, 08:09:38 AM
Jpod will be a bashers premiership player in 2013 hahaha
So you think we are favourites for the cup? Sweet!
last person to average 100+ over half a season and be doubted on was beams
just saying :P
Quote from: Ziplock on December 10, 2012, 02:18:56 PM
last person to average 100+ over half a season and be doubted on was beams
just saying :P
Hahah good call. McLean is no Beams though :P
Quote from: Ziplock on December 10, 2012, 02:18:56 PM
last person to average 100+ over half a season and be doubted on was beams
just saying :P
Think with Gibbs moving into the midfield and Carrazzo and Murphy not missing large chunks of the season he will slide down the pecking order.
Remember when Bradd Dalziell was a 100av mid ? ;)
Quote from: Scrads on December 10, 2012, 02:27:58 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on December 10, 2012, 02:18:56 PM
last person to average 100+ over half a season and be doubted on was beams
just saying :P
Think with Gibbs moving into the midfield and Carrazzo and Murphy not missing large chunks of the season he will slide down the pecking order.
Remember when Bradd Dalziell was a 100av mid ? ;)
Dalziell only averaged 94 ;) but hey, leave him alone. He's a great wafl player!
Quote from: elephants on December 10, 2012, 02:30:05 PM
Quote from: Scrads on December 10, 2012, 02:27:58 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on December 10, 2012, 02:18:56 PM
last person to average 100+ over half a season and be doubted on was beams
just saying :P
Think with Gibbs moving into the midfield and Carrazzo and Murphy not missing large chunks of the season he will slide down the pecking order.
Remember when Bradd Dalziell was a 100av mid ? ;)
Dalziell only averaged 94 ;) but hey, leave him alone. He's a great wafl player!
I have nothing against him, I am sure McLean will be a great VFL player too ;)
that was only over half a dozen games though, and dalziell wasnt a first round draft pick was he.
(was he? I hope not for the eagles sake...)
removing his first green vested 55, mclean averaged 104 ppg :P
Quote from: Ziplock on December 10, 2012, 02:46:07 PM
that was only over half a dozen games though, and dalziell wasnt a first round draft pick was he.
(was he? I hope not for the eagles sake...)
removing his first green vested 55, mclean averaged 104 ppg :P
Not for our sake, for Brisbanes. We only traded for him after he did his knee ;)
Quote from: elephants on December 10, 2012, 02:56:01 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on December 10, 2012, 02:46:07 PM
that was only over half a dozen games though, and dalziell wasnt a first round draft pick was he.
(was he? I hope not for the eagles sake...)
removing his first green vested 55, mclean averaged 104 ppg :P
Not for our sake, for Brisbanes. We only traded for him after he did his knee ;)
brisbane got him cheap was mid 50s pick, you guys gave up staker and a mid 30 pick for him.
Mclean will average 85-90 abd doubt he will play all games
Malthouse will vitalise judd murphy gibbs and simpson in the midfield
Similar to swan, beams, thomas, ball while he was at collingwood
Mclean will probs play 10-15 full games will probably become a handy sub
Quote from: Holzman on December 10, 2012, 01:29:13 PM
Forgot to post a trade up, was done a while ago. I already made my changes on my team thread :)
Holz trades: Ahmeed Saad + Rookie 38
JB trades: Craig Moller
Yea confirm
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on December 10, 2012, 03:24:56 PM
Mclean will average 85-90 abd doubt he will play all games
Malthouse will vitalise judd murphy gibbs and simpson in the midfield
Similar to swan, beams, thomas, ball while he was at collingwood
Mclean will probs play 10-15 full games will probably become a handy sub
You don't know what malthouse will do so stop talking out of your ass.
+ flowering 1.
flower fark your opinions are so bias.. ::)
I have an idea that will take this competition to a whole new level.
A FARK v whatlez troll battle thread ;)
Thanks for playing the lot of ya
#trolloftheweek
I would like to mention, when I swear, I'm not always angry.
Quote from: whatlez on December 10, 2012, 05:37:42 PM
I would like to mention, when I swear, I'm not always angry.
Riiiight.
Quote from: Holzman on December 10, 2012, 03:10:31 PM
Quote from: elephants on December 10, 2012, 02:56:01 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on December 10, 2012, 02:46:07 PM
that was only over half a dozen games though, and dalziell wasnt a first round draft pick was he.
(was he? I hope not for the eagles sake...)
removing his first green vested 55, mclean averaged 104 ppg :P
Not for our sake, for Brisbanes. We only traded for him after he did his knee ;)
brisbane got him cheap was mid 50s pick, you guys gave up staker and a mid 30 pick for him.
Nope, we gave up Staker and Seaby and got Dalziell and Pick 22 in return.
Note, there were same small pick upgrades included as well.
Quote from: Scrads on December 10, 2012, 04:49:53 PM
I have an idea that will take this competition to a whole new level.
A FARK v whatlez troll battle thread ;)
Massive +1 hahahaha
anyone want r6? im looking for an old guy who is will score well short term but will retire in a few years.
Is there a way of getting the front page fixed?
Quote from: whatlez on December 10, 2012, 06:18:39 PM
Is there a way of getting the front page fixed?
Why? Whats wrong with it?
Quote from: whatlez on December 10, 2012, 06:18:39 PM
Is there a way of getting the front page fixed?
yes, I have aranged some time free tonight so will get it all done.
Quote from: Holzman on December 10, 2012, 06:17:55 PM
anyone want r6? im looking for an old guy who is will score well short term but will retire in a few years.
Jpod ;)
Quote from: Ricochet on December 10, 2012, 06:20:22 PM
Quote from: Holzman on December 10, 2012, 06:17:55 PM
anyone want r6? im looking for an old guy who is will score well short term but will retire in a few years.
Jpod ;)
Beat me hahahaha
Told you Jpod was destined to stay at the Bashers. Haha.
Legendary player, at champion club ;D
Cyril is up for trade. Would need a decent offer, but looking for defender who averages better.
Quote from: whatlez on December 10, 2012, 08:28:43 PM
Cyril is up for trade. Would need a decent offer, but looking for defender who averages better.
Cambell Heath?
Question, can I keep say 35 players on my list and then have 7 rook picks. Then I do not use my final 2 picks? I will maintain the 40 max cap.
Yes. You don't have to use all of your picks
Quote from: whatlez on December 10, 2012, 08:28:43 PM
Cyril is up for trade. Would need a decent offer, but looking for defender who averages better.
Why do you want someone who has a better average ? Good defenders are more rare than good forwards.
Scrads trades:
James Bartel + Skipped National Pick 47
Pickers trades:
Brendan Whitecross + Rookie Pick 30
NOTE:
This trade has been granted permission for a special 'reverse' option. The trade will be reversed on December 17 if Whitecross loses Forward status, but the trade will remain if Whitecross keeps Forward status.
Quote from: Scrads on December 10, 2012, 10:27:39 PM
Scrads trades:
James Bartel + Skipped National Pick 47
Pickers trades:
Brendan Whitecross + Rookie Pick 30
NOTE:
This trade has been granted permission for a special 'reverse' option. The trade will be reversed on December 17 if Whitecross loses Forward status, but the trade will remain if Whitecross keeps Forward status.
Confirm the trade and the 'reverse' option.
Quote from: Scrads on December 10, 2012, 10:27:39 PM
Scrads trades:
James Bartel + Skipped National Pick 47
Pickers trades:
Brendan Whitecross + Rookie Pick 30
NOTE:
This trade has been granted permission for a special 'reverse' option. The trade will be reversed on December 17 if Whitecross loses Forward status, but the trade will remain if Whitecross keeps Forward status.
He might keep it this year but its only a matter of time with how they are throwing around fwd/def. All his touches are between the arcs
Nice, 'reverse' option. I like it!
Making up new rules are we? ;) lol
Quote from: whatlez on December 10, 2012, 10:38:38 PM
Making up new rules are we? ;) lol
Trade period closes before the positions are released, and I only wanted Whitecross if he is going to be a FWD next year so asked Holz for permission for the reverse option and he said it was OK.
Is Whitecross out for the whole of 2013? or is he returning mid year?
I was unaware of you consulting holz before hand.
Quote from: Adamant on December 10, 2012, 10:47:26 PM
Is Whitecross out for the whole of 2013? or is he returning mid year?
Won't be fantasy relevant for all of 2013. Vest will be his if he comes back early.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 10, 2012, 10:48:33 PM
Quote from: Adamant on December 10, 2012, 10:47:26 PM
Is Whitecross out for the whole of 2013? or is he returning mid year?
Won't be fantasy relevant for all of 2013. Vest will be his if he comes back early.
Something about not knowing what
Malthouse Clarkson will do and talking out of your ass i think i read....... :P
Any report i read was mid season but I'd say just in time for finals (guessing like everyone else)
Quote from: Scrads on December 10, 2012, 10:41:29 PM
Quote from: whatlez on December 10, 2012, 10:38:38 PM
Making up new rules are we? ;) lol
Trade period closes before the positions are released, and I only wanted Whitecross if he is going to be a FWD next year so asked Holz for permission for the reverse option and he said it was OK.
dont agree with the reverse option
also how are you trading a pick that you skipped???
Quote from: picker_man on December 10, 2012, 10:56:41 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 10, 2012, 10:48:33 PM
Quote from: Adamant on December 10, 2012, 10:47:26 PM
Is Whitecross out for the whole of 2013? or is he returning mid year?
Won't be fantasy relevant for all of 2013. Vest will be his if he comes back early.
Something about not knowing what Malthouse Clarkson will do and talking out of your ass i think i read....... :P
Any report i read was mid season but I'd say just in time for finals (guessing like everyone else)
Hardly, he will be primed for finals were not gonna rush him back when we have so many similar players with preseasons and match time under the belts.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 10, 2012, 11:05:54 PM
Quote from: picker_man on December 10, 2012, 10:56:41 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 10, 2012, 10:48:33 PM
Quote from: Adamant on December 10, 2012, 10:47:26 PM
Is Whitecross out for the whole of 2013? or is he returning mid year?
Won't be fantasy relevant for all of 2013. Vest will be his if he comes back early.
Something about not knowing what Malthouse Clarkson will do and talking out of your ass i think i read....... :P
Any report i read was mid season but I'd say just in time for finals (guessing like everyone else)
Hardly, he will be primed for finals were not gonna rush him back when we have so many similar players with preseasons and match time under the belts.
The article on there website says whitecross will definantly make a come back in 2013........
http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/4742/newsid/151434/default.aspx
All that article says is goodbye dpp ;)
And I said he would play, just a prime vest candidate.
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on December 10, 2012, 10:59:42 PM
Quote from: Scrads on December 10, 2012, 10:41:29 PM
Quote from: whatlez on December 10, 2012, 10:38:38 PM
Making up new rules are we? ;) lol
Trade period closes before the positions are released, and I only wanted Whitecross if he is going to be a FWD next year so asked Holz for permission for the reverse option and he said it was OK.
dont agree with the reverse option
also how are you trading a pick that you skipped???
It was a skipped Nat Pick, so it becomes a Rookie Pick straight after when it was skipped (So skipped Nat 47 will become Rookie 48)
I asked Holz about the reverse option first. I bit ironic for someone who had a trade go through when it was confirmed AFTER the deadline :P
I don't like the reverse trade option either. If there's a hesitation then it should wait until next trade period.
Can we put our trades on hold incase one of our players gets an LTI?
whitecross should be back mid year.
Quote from: Scrads on December 10, 2012, 11:26:47 PM
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on December 10, 2012, 10:59:42 PM
Quote from: Scrads on December 10, 2012, 10:41:29 PM
Quote from: whatlez on December 10, 2012, 10:38:38 PM
Making up new rules are we? ;) lol
Trade period closes before the positions are released, and I only wanted Whitecross if he is going to be a FWD next year so asked Holz for permission for the reverse option and he said it was OK.
dont agree with the reverse option
also how are you trading a pick that you skipped???
It was a skipped Nat Pick, so it becomes a Rookie Pick straight after when it was skipped (So skipped Nat 47 will become Rookie 48)
I asked Holz about the reverse option first. I bit ironic for someone who had a trade go through when it was confirmed AFTER the deadline :P
Our was legit. The draft was on the Gold Coast which meant we actually had another whole hour after everyone thought it closed ;)
I say trade or no trade.
Quote from: SilkySkills on December 10, 2012, 11:50:20 PM
I don't like the reverse trade option either. If there's a hesitation then it should wait until next trade period.
Can we put our trades on hold incase one of our players gets an LTI?
The trade will effect mine and Pickers strategy in the drafts. If it happens, it happens a day and a bit after the trade period not like its months later in case of LTI. Special permission for things occur in the AFL so why not here ? It was sought and agreed to so I don't see the problem. Does it really effect anybody else ?
I'm backing scrads.
Quote from: Ziplock on December 10, 2012, 11:54:07 PM
whitecross should be back mid year.
So should Sam Mitchell then ::)
Soo does anyone want forwards? I got heaps and I'm looking for a defender who averages 70-75 or a mid who is young and has potential.
Pm if you're keen :)
If people are going to be so narky with this little reverse clause then I will cancel the trade if that pleases them.
Quote from: Scrads on December 10, 2012, 11:26:47 PM
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on December 10, 2012, 10:59:42 PM
Quote from: Scrads on December 10, 2012, 10:41:29 PM
Quote from: whatlez on December 10, 2012, 10:38:38 PM
Making up new rules are we? ;) lol
Trade period closes before the positions are released, and I only wanted Whitecross if he is going to be a FWD next year so asked Holz for permission for the reverse option and he said it was OK.
dont agree with the reverse option
also how are you trading a pick that you skipped???
It was a skipped Nat Pick, so it becomes a Rookie Pick straight after when it was skipped (So skipped Nat 47 will become Rookie 48)
I asked Holz about the reverse option first. I bit ironic for someone who had a trade go through when it was confirmed AFTER the deadline :P
By 2 minutes
Quote from: Scrads on December 11, 2012, 12:27:12 AM
If people are going to be so narky with this little reverse clause then I will cancel the trade if that pleases them.
I'm not narky. I reckon it should be passed.
Quote from: elephants on December 11, 2012, 12:59:58 AM
Quote from: Scrads on December 11, 2012, 12:27:12 AM
If people are going to be so narky with this little reverse clause then I will cancel the trade if that pleases them.
I'm not narky. I reckon it should be passed.
look pass it but i just dont agree with making up new rules during the trade week
dont even like the rule where you can confirm a deal now, for the next trading period
that cant happen in real life it shouldnt happen here
That was a special request put to Holz that was approved, its not a new rule just made or an option that can be used whenever so nothing has been changed and hasn't effected any teams 8)
Plenty of things happen in XV's that dont in real life.......
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on December 11, 2012, 01:04:14 AM
Quote from: elephants on December 11, 2012, 12:59:58 AM
Quote from: Scrads on December 11, 2012, 12:27:12 AM
If people are going to be so narky with this little reverse clause then I will cancel the trade if that pleases them.
I'm not narky. I reckon it should be passed.
look pass it but i just dont agree with making up new rules during the trade week
dont even like the rule where you can confirm a deal now, for the next trading period
that cant happen in real life it shouldnt happen here
It's not a new rule, we just sought special permission.
In the AFL if someone wants to recruit someone they can play him where they like. If there was some overseeing body that determined where each player could or couldn't play then the clubs would want to know 100% before recruiting them.
Quote from: Ziplock on December 11, 2012, 01:34:44 AM
Quote from: CrowsFan on December 11, 2012, 12:35:04 AM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 11, 2012, 12:12:36 AM
Quote from: Ziplock on December 10, 2012, 11:54:07 PM
whitecross should be back mid year.
So should Sam Mitchell then ::)
Is Mitchell injured? ???
I meant he'll be back, not be a back :P
Yeah I knew that was what you meant zip. Which was why I was asking if Mitchell was injured, since he was saying Mitchell would also be back then...
Quote from: Scrads on December 11, 2012, 01:26:29 AM
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on December 11, 2012, 01:04:14 AM
Quote from: elephants on December 11, 2012, 12:59:58 AM
Quote from: Scrads on December 11, 2012, 12:27:12 AM
If people are going to be so narky with this little reverse clause then I will cancel the trade if that pleases them.
I'm not narky. I reckon it should be passed.
look pass it but i just dont agree with making up new rules during the trade week
dont even like the rule where you can confirm a deal now, for the next trading period
that cant happen in real life it shouldnt happen here
It's not a new rule, we just sought special permission.
In the AFL if someone wants to recruit someone they can play him where they like. If there was some overseeing body that determined where each player could or couldn't play then the clubs would want to know 100% before recruiting them.
Thats a good point!
So now thats sorted anyone interested in teen rookie picks for a back or mid??
I want to trade?!?!
Anyone want Shuey, Cyril, Dalh, teen rookie picks??
PM im bored at work -_- please dont be shy :)
Looking for a medicre Def or a reasonable Mid.
Thanks you your time.
Good news; Ricky Pettard to the Tiges 8)
Lids is being offered on the trading block, PM me if your interested as he may be traded shortly.
Quote from: whatlez on December 11, 2012, 02:57:24 PM
Good news; Ricky Pettard to the Tiges 8)
Will he play though :P
Quote from: Holzman on December 11, 2012, 02:58:32 PM
Lids is being offered on the trading block, PM me if your interested as he may be traded shortly.
Hmmm, any reason behind this decision?
Quote from: elephants on December 11, 2012, 03:01:44 PM
Quote from: whatlez on December 11, 2012, 02:57:24 PM
Good news; Ricky Pettard to the Tiges 8)
Will he play though :P
Quote from: Holzman on December 11, 2012, 02:58:32 PM
Lids is being offered on the trading block, PM me if your interested as he may be traded shortly.
Hmmm, any reason behind this decision?
while i have a gun 15, i think im lacking abit of depth for the future esepcially in the forward line. Lids i think can go 110-115 bt i have pendles and boyd as captain options whereas some people really have none. So if a person wants a youngsih captain they can put an offer in.
I wont give him away though i see him being a top 10 mid next year easy.
Quote from: Holzman on December 11, 2012, 03:09:07 PM
Quote from: elephants on December 11, 2012, 03:01:44 PM
Quote from: whatlez on December 11, 2012, 02:57:24 PM
Good news; Ricky Pettard to the Tiges 8)
Will he play though :P
Quote from: Holzman on December 11, 2012, 02:58:32 PM
Lids is being offered on the trading block, PM me if your interested as he may be traded shortly.
Hmmm, any reason behind this decision?
while i have a gun 15, i think im lacking abit of depth for the future esepcially in the forward line. Lids i think can go 110-115 bt i have pendles and boyd as captain options whereas some people really have none. So if a person wants a youngsih captain they can put an offer in.
I wont give him away though i see him being a top 10 mid next year easy.
Mmm okay fair enough ;)
As Gram wasnt picked up does that mean i delist him?? (so crap i got hammered in that!!)
Quote from: picker_man on December 11, 2012, 06:29:24 PM
As Gram wasnt picked up does that mean i delist him?? (so crap i got hammered in that!!)
Yeah I think so mate, unless you wanna keep him and hope he gets picked up next season? Not much int seeing as he will be 29/30 by then..
Quote from: elephants on December 11, 2012, 07:15:39 PM
Quote from: picker_man on December 11, 2012, 06:29:24 PM
As Gram wasnt picked up does that mean i delist him?? (so crap i got hammered in that!!)
Yeah I think so mate, unless you wanna keep him and hope he gets picked up next season? Not much int seeing as he will be 29/30 by then..
Thanks for that ele, wasnt sure what to do with him but guess its best to just get rid of him :( should of taken you guys offer something like rookie 60 i think it was better then nothing haha
Really thought he would of been picked up though, that draft was shower who takes Thorton over Gram ::) haha
Quote from: picker_man on December 11, 2012, 07:24:53 PM
Quote from: elephants on December 11, 2012, 07:15:39 PM
Quote from: picker_man on December 11, 2012, 06:29:24 PM
As Gram wasnt picked up does that mean i delist him?? (so crap i got hammered in that!!)
Yeah I think so mate, unless you wanna keep him and hope he gets picked up next season? Not much int seeing as he will be 29/30 by then..
Thanks for that ele, wasnt sure what to do with him but guess its best to just get rid of him :( should of taken you guys offer something like rookie 60 i think it was haha
Really thought he would of been picked up though, that draft was shower who takes Thorton over Gram ::) haha
Haha you should have, I also thought he would be picked up!? I guess people are understandably wary of exposing 18 and 19 year olds to a stalker :P
You pick discipled players or idiots in your side?
Quote from: picker_man on December 11, 2012, 07:24:53 PM
Quote from: elephants on December 11, 2012, 07:15:39 PM
Quote from: picker_man on December 11, 2012, 06:29:24 PM
As Gram wasnt picked up does that mean i delist him?? (so crap i got hammered in that!!)
Yeah I think so mate, unless you wanna keep him and hope he gets picked up next season? Not much int seeing as he will be 29/30 by then..
Thanks for that ele, wasnt sure what to do with him but guess its best to just get rid of him :( should of taken you guys offer something like rookie 60 i think it was better then nothing haha
Really thought he would of been picked up though, that draft was shower who takes Thorton over Gram ::) haha
Ones under criminal charges at the minute one isnt...
which one would you want at gws teaching leadership to 18, 19, 20 year olds
Quote from: whatlez on December 11, 2012, 08:49:21 PM
You pick discipled players or idiots in your side?
I don't think players religious beliefs come into too much consideration...
Quote from: elephants on December 11, 2012, 08:59:28 PM
Quote from: whatlez on December 11, 2012, 08:49:21 PM
You pick discipled players or idiots in your side?
I don't think players religious beliefs come into too much consideration...
Hahahaha I knew it was wrong, but iPad didn't allow spell change so I kept it :P
So will there be a write up for all the unpicked players, rookie and preseason players and the left over Nat picks?
Big ask, but would any of this information be available (not saying I need or want it)
Quote from: whatlez on December 11, 2012, 09:02:56 PM
Quote from: elephants on December 11, 2012, 08:59:28 PM
Quote from: whatlez on December 11, 2012, 08:49:21 PM
You pick discipled players or idiots in your side?
I don't think players religious beliefs come into too much consideration...
Hahahaha I knew it was wrong, but iPad didn't allow spell change so I kept it :P
Haha fair enough ;D
Quote from: whatlez on December 11, 2012, 09:09:44 PM
So will there be a write up for all the unpicked players, rookie and preseason players and the left over Nat picks?
Big ask, but would any of this information be available (not saying I need or want it)
Nah it'd be a huge effort. I reckon leave people to do their own dirty work though.
But you know the left over Nat picks are in it's own thread. Maybe the rookie/pre season draftees are in the thread, but the rest are just by your own research?
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on December 11, 2012, 08:56:03 PM
Quote from: picker_man on December 11, 2012, 07:24:53 PM
Quote from: elephants on December 11, 2012, 07:15:39 PM
Quote from: picker_man on December 11, 2012, 06:29:24 PM
As Gram wasnt picked up does that mean i delist him?? (so crap i got hammered in that!!)
Yeah I think so mate, unless you wanna keep him and hope he gets picked up next season? Not much int seeing as he will be 29/30 by then..
Thanks for that ele, wasnt sure what to do with him but guess its best to just get rid of him :( should of taken you guys offer something like rookie 60 i think it was better then nothing haha
Really thought he would of been picked up though, that draft was shower who takes Thorton over Gram ::) haha
Ones under criminal charges at the minute one isnt...
which one would you want at gws teaching leadership to 18, 19, 20 year olds
Can understand that but was more of a rhetorical question ;)
With the new talent recruited today and some that could go even in the top 10 in rookie. All my rookie picks are up trade 8)
From memory, 11, 13, 15, 24, 39, 44, 58, 62 I think.
Quote from: whatlez on December 11, 2012, 09:28:33 PM
With the new talent recruited today and some that could go even in the top 10 in rookie. All my rookie picks are up trade 8)
From memory, 11, 13, 15, 24, 39, 44, 58, 62 I think.
I told you i have 15 yesterday ;)
Quote from: picker_man on December 11, 2012, 09:45:30 PM
Quote from: whatlez on December 11, 2012, 09:28:33 PM
With the new talent recruited today and some that could go even in the top 10 in rookie. All my rookie picks are up trade 8)
From memory, 11, 13, 15, 24, 39, 44, 58, 62 I think.
I told you i own 15 yesterday ;)
Nah you have 12 and 16.
Quote from: whatlez on December 09, 2012, 04:43:57 PM
Pickers gives: Picks 20 and 42.
Whatlez gives: Pick 15.
Nah i did this trade with you aswell as getting 12 & 16.
Quote from: picker_man on December 11, 2012, 09:49:42 PM
Quote from: whatlez on December 09, 2012, 04:43:57 PM
Pickers gives: Picks 20 and 42.
Whatlez gives: Pick 15.
Nah i did this trade with you aswell as getting 12 & 16.
flower.
matt jones
25 yr old mature age midfielder at melbourne
for rookie 12 and 13
Someone is trolling Fark.
Quote from: whatlez on December 11, 2012, 10:24:52 PM
matt jones
25 yr old mature age midfielder at melbourne
for rookie 12 and 13
Someone is trolling Fark.
You offered me silvagni and gault for wines!!!
It takes two to tango
But anyone can troll
I didn't offer that specifically. But your offer was horrible. Worst yet.
"it takes two to tango"
I like that line.
It takes one to troll :P
does a troll really troll if nobody is there to see his trolling? lol
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on December 11, 2012, 11:12:15 PM
does a troll really troll if nobody is there to see his trolling? lol
Yeah.
Reports are surfacing from the Bashers camp that recruitment and youth development manager Mr T Fark has turned up to a team meeting sporting a filthy next tattoo that reads "IT TAKES TWO TO TANGO". Many around the club, including a bulk of the players and many of the coaching staff are now referring to him as TANGO BOY.
More to come ;)
Quote from: whatlez on December 11, 2012, 11:25:33 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on December 11, 2012, 11:12:15 PM
does a troll really troll if nobody is there to see his trolling? lol
Yeah.
Where mysterious, Extremely intelligent, Un approachable creatures and being afraid of us is all that needs to be revealed......
Go the Trolls :)
Quote from: elephants on December 11, 2012, 11:34:11 PM
Reports are surfacing from the Bashers camp that recruitment and youth development manager Mr T Fark has turned up to a team meeting sporting a filthy next tattoo that reads "IT TAKES TWO TO TANGO". Many around the club, including a bulk of the players and many of the coaching staff are now referring to him as TANGO BOY.
More to come ;)
Hahahahaha
I think I have had 7 or 8 people interested in Cyril and about 5 in Shuey.
Although, no trades have suited what I NEED.
Quote from: whatlez on December 12, 2012, 08:07:00 AM
I think I have had 7 or 8 people interested in Cyril and about 5 in Shuey.
Although, no trades have suited what I NEED.
An injury prone inconsistent fwd
A rollercoaster injury prone mid who is at wce and they have a gazillion mids
People are only half interested in these guys
Yeah whatever fark ::)
I cbf search, but whoever has the Big O, can you trade him to me :)
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on December 12, 2012, 12:33:25 PM
Quote from: whatlez on December 12, 2012, 08:07:00 AM
I think I have had 7 or 8 people interested in Cyril and about 5 in Shuey.
Although, no trades have suited what I NEED.
An injury prone inconsistent fwd
A rollercoaster injury prone mid who is at wce and they have a gazillion mids
People are only half interested in these guys
those two are stacks better then the crap you keep offering FARK ::)
Cmon Fark, its your turn. You're holding up the match!
lol wut?
You know, the trolling match between you two with special comments from pickers ;)
Not sure if you actually know what trolling is... :S
Trolling: The art of deliberately, cleverly, and secretly pissing people off, usually via the the internet, using dialogue.
There.
You are pissing me off with your stupid arguments that have no real point or purpose.
Although, they are at times quite entertaining.
Long story short, I know what trolling is and you are doing it.
Okay, cheers ;)
U mad?
Quote from: whatlez on December 12, 2012, 04:16:33 PM
Not sure if you actually know what trolling is... :S
it does take two to tango :p
Quote from: whatlez on December 12, 2012, 05:33:33 PM
Quote from: elephants on December 12, 2012, 05:11:54 PM
Quote from: whatlez on December 12, 2012, 04:40:29 PM
U mad?
You got owned haha
Nah it was a follow up troll call. And your trolling experience is limited ::) haha
Limited: a measurable quantity that can not be exceeded
Whatlez gives: Pick 58 and 62
Pickers gives: Pick 47
Two over The limit ATM...
Quote from: whatlez on December 12, 2012, 08:36:22 PM
Whatlez gives: Pick 58 and 62
Pickers gives: Pick 47
Two over The limit ATM...
Confirm.
Eagles give rookie 6 + 57
bashers give: Clancee Pearce.
Reason: i think he will be mid only but he should average 85+ and i need that on my mid bench anyway.
Is a mid only. Confirmed just recently..,
Quote from: Holzman on December 12, 2012, 09:14:27 PM
Eagles give rookie 6
bashers give: Clancee Pearce.
Reason: i think he will be mid only but he should average 85+ and i need that on my mid bench anyway.
rookie 6 + rookie 57 for clancee
ele will confirm
Quote from: Holzman on December 12, 2012, 09:14:27 PM
Eagles give rookie 6 + 57
bashers give: Clancee Pearce.
Reason: i think he will be mid only but he should average 85+ and i need that on my mid bench anyway.
De boar > Pearce
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 12, 2012, 09:31:59 PM
Quote from: Holzman on December 12, 2012, 09:14:27 PM
Eagles give rookie 6 + 57
bashers give: Clancee Pearce.
Reason: i think he will be mid only but he should average 85+ and i need that on my mid bench anyway.
De boar > Pearce
+111
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on December 12, 2012, 09:23:45 PM
Quote from: Holzman on December 12, 2012, 09:14:27 PM
Eagles give rookie 6
bashers give: Clancee Pearce.
Reason: i think he will be mid only but he should average 85+ and i need that on my mid bench anyway.
rookie 6 + rookie 57 for clancee
ele will confirm
I'm changing it to carrots. You guys said either or so I will take the old guy. I'm going for the flag so might as well
Quote from: Holzman on December 12, 2012, 09:14:27 PM
Eagles give rookie 6 + 57
bashers give: Clancee Pearce.
Reason: i think he will be mid only but he should average 85+ and i need that on my mid bench anyway.
Holz was in a rush and forgot to add Rookie 57 onto this deal. Here is a PM to prove it (he will confirm this change tomorrow)
Quote from: Holzman on December 12, 2012, 09:22:36 PM
Sorry massive net problems. Yeah add 57
So, Clancee Pearce for Rookie 6 + Rookie 57
Confirmed.
So what's the offer??
And lol Carrots for pic 6...
Oh good, he modified the original post.
Thanks Holz :)
Wait what? No not Carrots.
Holz and I will talk about a deal for Carrots over the coming days. If we come to an agreement, that deal will come into affect. If not, then the Clancee Pearce deal above will stand.
I give: Reece Conca, Oliver Wines, Nick Suban, r57
Whatlez gives: Cyril Rioli, r44, r47
Whatlez to confirm
Confirm.
Reason: Wines will be top scorer for first year players this year 8), we believe Conca will be a star when our team develops over the next 2 years and Subes I think can improve. We lose our best forward, but Dalh can replace IMO and I have heaps of forward depth, an injured player can be made up.
Reason: Yes we lose a lot of youth and yes we probably lose this trade long term but Cyril will slide straight into the forward line spot vacated by Clancee Pearce. We upgrade our rookie pick and only lose midfield depth (which we have enough of) in Conca and Wines who would be 2-3 years from starting in our midfield at least.
A good, mutually beneficial trade.
Quote from: elephants on December 13, 2012, 12:40:43 AM
Reason: Yes we lose a lot of youth and yes we probably lose this trade long term but Cyril will slide straight into the forward line spot vacated by Clancee Pearce. We upgrade our rookie pick and only lose midfield depth (which we have enough of) in Conca and Wines who would be 2-3 years from starting in our midfield at least.
A good, mutually beneficial trade.
Rare. So we should celebrate by handing the Bashers the premiership ;D
And then the Bashers giving us the Premiership in two years :D
Hahaha you've had some shockers too man ;)
Quote from: whatlez on December 13, 2012, 12:43:23 AM
Quote from: elephants on December 13, 2012, 12:40:43 AM
Reason: Yes we lose a lot of youth and yes we probably lose this trade long term but Cyril will slide straight into the forward line spot vacated by Clancee Pearce. We upgrade our rookie pick and only lose midfield depth (which we have enough of) in Conca and Wines who would be 2-3 years from starting in our midfield at least.
A good, mutually beneficial trade.
Rare. So we should celebrate by handing the Bashers the premiership ;D
And then the Bashers giving us the Premiership in two years :D
Weve just given you two future 90+ ave mids haha :p
Can people stop gifting the bashers in trades,
I'm looking at you lez :)
Quote from: Holzman on December 13, 2012, 12:58:35 AM
Can people stop gifting the bashers in trades,
I'm looking at you lez :)
Hahaha well we have been decimated by dpp we have to win somewhere
Quote from: Holzman on December 13, 2012, 12:58:35 AM
Can people stop gifting the bashers in trades,
I'm looking at you lez :)
Haha we are just after here and now trades because, like yourself, we are after the cup! ;)
Tbh Bashers didn't win the trade. It may seem it or next year for you Holz, but thy certainly didn't win the trade if I'm going for a 2014-2015 side.
I will have another boring day at work.
What I want is
Big O
Trade one of my mids (anyone)
Trade any of my back up rucks (gault, witts and Grundy)
If you're keen please pm.
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on December 13, 2012, 01:12:28 AM
Quote from: Holzman on December 13, 2012, 12:58:35 AM
Can people stop gifting the bashers in trades,
I'm looking at you lez :)
Hahaha well we have been decimated by dpp we have to win somewhere
yeah i feel sorry for you guys, thomas becoming a dpp must have hurt.
Quote from: elephants on December 13, 2012, 01:12:38 AM
Quote from: Holzman on December 13, 2012, 12:58:35 AM
Can people stop gifting the bashers in trades,
I'm looking at you lez :)
Haha we are just after here and now trades because, like yourself, we are after the cup! ;)
I think your favourite after the last few trades and thomas DPP.
Quote from: Holzman on December 13, 2012, 10:57:45 AM
Quote from: elephants on December 13, 2012, 01:12:38 AM
Quote from: Holzman on December 13, 2012, 12:58:35 AM
Can people stop gifting the bashers in trades,
I'm looking at you lez :)
Haha we are just after here and now trades because, like yourself, we are after the cup! ;)
I think your favourite after the last few trades and thomas DPP.
We lost conca, carrazzo, pearce to dpp and picked jimmy toumpas thinking he would be def/mid
Jimny flowering Toupus
Quote from: elephants on December 13, 2012, 12:34:43 AM
I give: Reece Conca, Oliver Wines, Nick Suban, r57
Whatlez gives: Cyril Rioli, r44, r47
Whatlez to confirm
Quote from: whatlez on December 09, 2012, 07:36:36 PM
I have gone to declaration that I will not talk to any of Ele, Ric or Fark about trades. The Bashers try rob everyone and shows. Especially for the biggest spud of them, Ziplock.
........ :P
Hahahaha ^^
No comment.... :P
After fwds/backs
need to make a trade... PM me slurries.
No.2 Draftpick Jonathan O'Rourke available for trade. (and all our other players)
What the hell I'll take Pearce.
Lez revealed who I was taking at 6 and while I would have preffered him he might get taken now.
So 6 + 57 for Pearce. Now I have zero rookie picks and team is set.
I'm sure JB revealed it...
Haha, you didn't even inquire further about Carrots Holz :P
Holz has a decision been made on the deadline for this trade period?
The Deadline will be the 15th 11:59pm AEST
Full lists must be sent in by the 16th 11:59pm AEST and I will open up a thread on that now.
You need to have a maximum of 40 on your list, if you have 40 you will not be able to take any picks in the rookie draft even if you have pick 1.
So for example my team has 35 players on the list now, So i will have to take 5 in the rookie draft. I actually dont have any rookie picks so after the given 70 if your still not on the cap of 40 you will get picks based on your ladder position, so I would get 71, Hawka if he needs it would get 72 and son on till everyone has 40 on their list.
after that you need to choose 5 players to be on your rookie list and 35 to be in your senior squad. Note if you pick someone in the rookie it doesnt mean you have to place them on the rookie list.
sweet thanks holz
The Bison are offering up combinations of Monfries, Blake and rookie picks 32, 54 and 66 in exchange for a decent midfielder :)
trade with Spite and Toga
Bashers Give: Toumpas + Vlastuin + Heath + Atkins + Mcintosh + R44 + R47
FOR
Titans Give: Fyfe + R52 + R63 + Logan
Quote from: Ricochet on December 14, 2012, 07:16:30 PM
trade with Spite and Toga
Bashers Give: Toumpas + Vlastuin + Heath + Atkins + Mcintosh + R44 + R47
FOR
Titans Give: Fyfe + R52 + R63 + Logan
Spite and myself would like to confirm this trade.
Quote from: Ricochet on December 14, 2012, 07:16:30 PM
trade with Spite and Toga
Bashers Give: Toumpas + Vlastuin + Heath + Atkins + Mcintosh + R44 + R47
FOR
Titans Give: Fyfe + R52 + R63 + Logan
Confirmed. With the loss of DPP from our back/forward, we had an overload of mids. Now we can actually field a team.
which mcintosh?
Yeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh!!!
Cheers Toga and Spite :)
Quote from: Ziplock on December 14, 2012, 07:23:43 PM
which mcintosh?
Kamdyn, we picked him up in the National Draft.
Looks like your fighting an uphill battle Holz :P
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 14, 2012, 07:28:41 PM
Looks like your fighting an uphill battle Holz :P
Haha our plan is working :P we have given away pretty much all our youth in an attempt to push Holz all the way!
You know what second trading period was a bad idea, all deals cancelled ;)
We could've been a chance... but with no trades getting pushed through (finding it hard to make some deals atm, would help if SS was on :X )
then we'd be a chance :X
Maybe respond to PM's then :P
Yes I know you said you weren't very interested in the first message, but when I actually make an offer I still expect a response even if it is to laugh in my face ;)
Quote from: Ricochet on December 14, 2012, 07:16:30 PM
trade with Spite and Toga
Bashers Give: Toumpas + Vlastuin + Heath + Atkins + Mcintosh + R44 + R47
FOR
Titans Give: Fyfe + R52 + R63 + Logan
Kamdyn... I would vote to veto this trade.
Atkins is a N80 odd pick... the chances he'll ever get substantial game time, or be good are so mininmal. Even Mcintosh is worth very little- he's a tall midfielder in the team that has not only a great mid, but an extremely young one. Titans also get 2 pick upgrades, but they're practically nothing that low in the draft, aren't they like the titans 10th picks in the rookie r something ridiculous?
Heath is injury prone, and will be battling it out with a bunch of ports new recruits, + players like pittard who didnt play much last year through injury- he's not worth much, if I had to value him in picks I would say a top 30 rookie.
That makes it pretty much 2 untried players, albeit high draft picks, for a beast of a midfielder, as well as some defensive depth. I'm not even sure on vlastuins JS at richmond, he's not even a great DTer... he averaged 88 in TAC, and that's largely distorted by one huge outlier, his SD would have been huge.
ftr, despite what it might look like, I'm not saying this because I'm filthy my trade for fyfe fell through, although I was a bit annoyed it took so long to be told about it, but honestly, I see this as a pretty poorly weighted trade.
Quote from: Ziplock on December 14, 2012, 07:52:36 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 14, 2012, 07:16:30 PM
trade with Spite and Toga
Bashers Give: Toumpas + Vlastuin + Heath + Atkins + Mcintosh + R44 + R47
FOR
Titans Give: Fyfe + R52 + R63 + Logan
Kamdyn... I would vote to veto this trade.
Atkins is a N80 odd pick... the chances he'll ever get substantial game time, or be good are so mininmal. Even Mcintosh is worth very little- he's a tall midfielder in the team that has not only a great mid, but an extremely young one. Titans also get 2 pick upgrades, but they're practically nothing that low in the draft, aren't they like the titans 10th picks in the rookie r something ridiculous?
Heath is injury prone, and will be battling it out with a bunch of ports new recruits, + players like pittard who didnt play much last year through injury- he's not worth much, if I had to value him in picks I would say a top 30 rookie.
That makes it pretty much 2 untried players, albeit high draft picks, for a beast of a midfielder, as well as some defensive depth. I'm not even sure on vlastuins JS at richmond, he's not even a great DTer... he averaged 88 in TAC, and that's largely distorted by one huge outlier, his SD would have been huge.
ftr, despite what it might look like, I'm not saying this because I'm filthy my trade for fyfe fell through, although I was a bit annoyed it took so long to be told about it, but honestly, I see this as a pretty poorly weighted trade.
I actually agree with you but I didn't want yo bring it IP as it just makes me look bias. If other feel this way I will put it to a vote. I will leave my opinion out of it as I'm too involved.
O'Meara swallow hogan harper lecras adcock Shaw all up for trade if it helps me be a cup threat for the next few years.
Is this trade standing or are you guys gonna push it to a vote?
if anyone else has an issue with it, I say take it to a vote :P As holz said, he's too involved, and as I said, I might just be clouded by being annoyed (I'm not though, it's not a fair trade :P )
I dont think its unfair but I probably dont rate Fyfe as high as others.
Don't know about fairness but I think it's a pretty stupid trade
If you look how hard we traded for those top picks you'll see its not that uneven.
Ahh well, guess its out of my hands now. I'm gonna update the team thread with Fyfe anyway ;D
I am only an assistant to the Sons in this comp. but couldn't help but throw my 2cents in on the 'Fyfe' trade.
Not to get on the bad side of anyone, but I think it needs to go to a vote. Fyfe is a young, premium that will without a doubt be a star of the comp. soon, if not already.
Toumpas and Vlastuin may turn out to be very good players but no matter how high they were drafted they are still unproven at AFL level.
Just my thoughts, but a trade like this where a star is traded for un-proven players deserves to go to a vote :)
Ablett + Chapman + Rookie 24 is the package deal Trolls have available for some good younger players.
Seriously? Of all trades this one is going to vote?
The Titans are rebuilding and looking for young quality players under 21 and we have given four draftees from the super draft and a young defender. For a midfielder who isn't a premium yet and went 89 this year, yes injury interrupted. he's 3 years a head of toumpas and Valstuin but our team is 3 years ahead of the Titans. Oh and Logan was going to be delisted anyway and the their late rookie picks weren't going to be even used.
You really have to look at what both teams were after. Plus both teams have multiple assistants so if this was unfair surely someone would have picked it up
I have no issue with the trade.
4 young kids + small pick upgrades for 1 young gun and 1 average mid.
Toumpas in the top 3 rated mids in this draft, vlastuin the highest rated defender in this draft plus heath at port wilk get game time and atkins ans mcintosh while taken late in euro draft, are highly rated prospect players for 2-3 years time. Atkins was linked to bombers at pick 30 odd and has been compared to didak while mcintosh is a running halfback/wingman with height
Spite gets a great load of youth and we get a premium mid...it is pretty flowering fair. We win short term spite wins long term
I actually see Spite winning too much lol. The amount they rate Vlastin and Toupas they have given up.
Does this mean you would done the same trade but for Shuey?
Selling all midfielders. All are under 25, so young mids are at the Sons.
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on December 14, 2012, 09:47:42 PM
Toumpas in the top 3 rated mids in this draft, vlastuin the highest rated defender in this draft plus heath at port wilk get game time and atkins ans mcintosh while taken late in euro draft, are highly rated prospect players for 2-3 years time. Atkins was linked to bombers at pick 30 odd and has been compared to didak while mcintosh is a running halfback/wingman with height
Spite gets a great load of youth and we get a premium mid...it is pretty flowering fair. We win short term spite wins long term
so? they're still all untried players.
let me throws some names at you.
Laycock
Nicholas smith
daniel bell
ryley dunn
john meesen
dowler
thorp
I've just picked a bunch of names, this isn't even all of them. Most people won't know the majority of these guys, fantasy footballers are probably the only ones who will. Who are they? They're all first round draft picks who never really succeeded. Top 10 picks in quite a few cases. Then you have players like tambling, who are still in the system, but destined for mediocrity.
whats my point? you cant judge how good a player is going to be at AFL just from their draft picks. All those blokes would have been rated as highly talented youngsters. That being said, mcintosh is a key defender who averaged 65 ppg in the WAFl, atkins averaged 82 in TAC, but his STD was 36.51... that's ridiculous for a midfielder, and generally indicates that he dominates weaker opposition, but struggles against quality... hence why he was taken at pick 80. Toumpas is hard to rate because of his injury, while vlastuin only averaged 79 if you remove his outlier in TAC.
Heath is, at the VERY best, injury prone. More probable is just not good enough- if he was a reasonable HB, and I'm talking like ok, not even good, it would be safe to say he'd average like 60-70 ppg in dt and sc. If he was a good hb, we're talking 70+... at which point he would have been playing at sydney. If he was any good, theres no flowering way that sydney, with their aging backline and injuryproness, would have traded him for a flowering pick upgrade from 85 to 72.
To summarise: the bashers have offered- a pick 30 key back, a pick 80 average and incredibly inconsistent midfielder, a top 10 draft pick defender/mid who's good but an average DTer at best and a top 3 pick midfielder. Oh, and 2 small pick upgrades from from 52---> 44 and 63--> 47
For a 100+ extremely highly rated midfielder + some defensive depth.
Why are the bashers so keen for this to go through? because they know they're raping the trade.
People will compare this to the murphy trade I made, but it's completely different for several reasons, firstly, fyfe is younger. Secondly, murphy has established that he really struggles with a tag, which he'll be getting with the decline of judd, thirdly, the nations picks I received were substantially higher and I got 2 extremely talented players. Fourthly, the trade included 2 players, who, like similar to this trade, were also high draft picks, but unlike this trade, have already demonstrated their potential at an AFL level.
when I originally looked at the trade, I thought it was a bit uneven, and said so... then when the bashers started talking it up so much, I thought I'd actually look into all the players involved...
And its obvious this trade is a complete rout.
I'm personally voting for its rejection. It's a loss for spite in both the short term, and the long term. If it was a trade involving someone like boyd etc. I'd probably pass it... but fyfe is 10 years too young to allow this trade to go through.
Ok guys, have a big trade to announce......
Trade Now
l give Jack Redden, Taylor Walker, Mitch Clark + Rookie 14
Pickers gives Gary Ablett, Jack Riewoldt, Travis Varcoe + Rookie 19
Trade after Rookie Draft
l give Sam Gilbert
Pickers gives Paul Chapman
* this is all one deal and is conditional on it all going through
......Pickers to confirm :)
*waits eagerly for Zip to complain again...*
Quote from: elephants on December 14, 2012, 11:10:39 PM
*waits eagerly for Zip to complain again...*
lol......Pickers and l were thinking exactly the same thing
Quote from: nostradamus on December 14, 2012, 11:12:25 PM
Quote from: elephants on December 14, 2012, 11:10:39 PM
*waits eagerly for Zip to complain again...*
lol......Pickers and l were thinking exactly the same thing
Hahahah ;D
I see pickers losing wayy too much...
Pickers wins.
Quote from: whatlez on December 14, 2012, 11:15:01 PM
I see pickers losing wayy too much...
Yea and you also think spite won the trade with the bashers ::)
Lol haha.
But I want this rookie draft to happen, only problem is that I have no idea what picks I have?!?!
That is an extremely fair trade! Cant split it. Well done guys
Quote from: Jayman on December 14, 2012, 11:17:00 PM
That is an extremely fair trade! Cant split it. Well done guys
+1
Quote from: Jayman on December 14, 2012, 11:17:00 PM
That is an extremely fair trade! Cant split it. Well done guys
spot on Jay......and it suits both team strategies too
Quote from: nostradamus on December 14, 2012, 11:19:23 PM
Quote from: Jayman on December 14, 2012, 11:17:00 PM
That is an extremely fair trade! Cant split it. Well done guys
spot on Jay......and it suits both team strategies too
So does ours but apparently thats irrelevant when assessing a trade ;) :P
I'm two over -_-
Anyone keen to help me out?
Quote from: whatlez on December 14, 2012, 11:25:14 PM
I'm two over -_-
Anyone keen to help me out?
that ^^^ and clay smith lmfao
Quote from: nostradamus on December 14, 2012, 11:08:06 PM
Ok guys, have a big trade to announce......
Trade Now
l give Jack Redden, Taylor Walker, Mitch Clark + Rookie 14
Pickers gives Gary Ablett, Jack Riewoldt, Travis Varcoe + Rookie 19
Trade after Rookie Draft
l give Sam Gilbert
Pickers gives Paul Chapman
* this is all one deal and is conditional on it all going through
......Pickers to confirm :)
Confirmed :)
Trolls had no structure to be real force next year and getting in some younger guys who I rate highly was best way to go.
Quote from: whatlez on December 14, 2012, 11:32:32 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on December 14, 2012, 11:29:06 PM
Quote from: whatlez on December 14, 2012, 11:25:14 PM
I'm two over -_-
Anyone keen to help me out?
that ^^^ and clay smith lmfao
Don't follow?
All l meant was that considering you're such a switched on guy.....its a bit ironic that you've gone over you're trade limit, as well as forgetting you had Clay Smith for the whole season
Quote from: nostradamus on December 14, 2012, 11:35:48 PM
Quote from: whatlez on December 14, 2012, 11:32:32 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on December 14, 2012, 11:29:06 PM
Quote from: whatlez on December 14, 2012, 11:25:14 PM
I'm two over -_-
Anyone keen to help me out?
that ^^^ and clay smith lmfao
Don't follow?
All l meant was that considering you're such a switched on guy.....its a bit ironic that you've gone over you're trade limit, as well as forgetting you had Clay Smith for the whole season
I thought that was Zip :o
And Lez meant he was 2 over on his list and needs to sack 2 or trade, hence the 'help me out'
Quote from: Jayman on December 14, 2012, 11:37:07 PM
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Quote from: nostradamus on December 14, 2012, 11:29:06 PM
Quote from: whatlez on December 14, 2012, 11:25:14 PM
I'm two over -_-
Anyone keen to help me out?
that ^^^ and clay smith lmfao
Don't follow?
All l meant was that considering you're such a switched on guy.....its a bit ironic that you've gone over you're trade limit, as well as forgetting you had Clay Smith for the whole season
I thought that was Zip :o
That's why I didn't follow -_- Maybe you're the not switched on guy :P
Quote from: whatlez on December 14, 2012, 11:38:06 PM
Quote from: Jayman on December 14, 2012, 11:37:07 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on December 14, 2012, 11:35:48 PM
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Quote from: nostradamus on December 14, 2012, 11:29:06 PM
Quote from: whatlez on December 14, 2012, 11:25:14 PM
I'm two over -_-
Anyone keen to help me out?
that ^^^ and clay smith lmfao
Don't follow?
All l meant was that considering you're such a switched on guy.....its a bit ironic that you've gone over you're trade limit, as well as forgetting you had Clay Smith for the whole season
I thought that was Zip :o
That's why I didn't follow -_- Maybe you're the not switched on guy :P
My bad :-[ .........*facepalm*
Quote from: nostradamus on December 14, 2012, 11:47:07 PM
Quote from: whatlez on December 14, 2012, 11:38:06 PM
Quote from: Jayman on December 14, 2012, 11:37:07 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on December 14, 2012, 11:35:48 PM
Quote from: whatlez on December 14, 2012, 11:32:32 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on December 14, 2012, 11:29:06 PM
Quote from: whatlez on December 14, 2012, 11:25:14 PM
I'm two over -_-
Anyone keen to help me out?
that ^^^ and clay smith lmfao
Don't follow?
All l meant was that considering you're such a switched on guy.....its a bit ironic that you've gone over you're trade limit, as well as forgetting you had Clay Smith for the whole season
I thought that was Zip :o
That's why I didn't follow -_- Maybe you're the not switched on guy :P
My bad :-[ .........*facepalm*
lol that was a classic Nost :P
Exceeded PM limit -_- sorry pickers... Will reply soon.
Quote from: nostradamus on December 14, 2012, 11:12:25 PM
Quote from: elephants on December 14, 2012, 11:10:39 PM
*waits eagerly for Zip to complain again...*
lol......Pickers and l were thinking exactly the same thing
haha, piss off, that's probably the fairest trade we've had this year.
Thanks for your input everyone on the fyfe trade.
Obviously I am going to be biased in my decision, so I will be happy for it to come down to a vote. I'd like to keep everyone happy in the league so I think this is a fair way.
Scrads trades:
Bellchambers + Tippett + Rookie 10 + Rookie 30
Nost trades:
Ryder + Vince + Rookie 25 + Rookie 28 + Rookie 70
Nos to confirm.
Quote from: Scrads on December 15, 2012, 02:06:09 AM
Scrads trades:
Bellchambers + Tippett + Rookie 10 + Rookie 30
Nost trades:
Ryder + Vince + Rookie 25 + Rookie 28 + Rookie 70
Nos to confirm.
Confirmed :)
Quote from: nostradamus on December 15, 2012, 02:07:18 AM
Quote from: Scrads on December 15, 2012, 02:06:09 AM
Scrads trades:
Bellchambers + Tippett + Rookie 10 + Rookie 30
Nost trades:
Ryder + Vince + Rookie 25 + Rookie 28 + Rookie 70
Nos to confirm.
Confirmed :)
Thankyou sir :)
So with the Bashers trade? Do they have the list movements to change 5 players? They gave me 3...
Also do I have rookie 57? Cause the bashers traded 6 + 57 but it's also included in my trade?
Ad it's funny that scrads has this pick but the bashers traded to me?
Quote from: whatlez on December 15, 2012, 02:26:10 AM
So with the Bashers trade? Do they have the list movements to change 5 players? They gave me 3...
Counts as 1 since all the other players were picked up in the national draft :)
Quote from: Scrads on December 09, 2012, 12:29:31 AM
Holz gives: Rookie 1 + Rookie 35 + Rookie 57
Scrads gives: Rookie 6 + Rookie 15 + Rookie 33
Lez gives: Aaron Sandilands + Rookie 39 + Rookie 43
Holz gets: Aaron Sandilands + Rookie 6
Scrads gets: Rookie 1 + Rookie 39 + Rookie 43 + Rookie 57
Lez gets: Rookie 15 + Rookie 33 + Rookie 35
Quote from: Holzman on December 12, 2012, 09:14:27 PM
Eagles give rookie 6 + 57
bashers give: Clancee Pearce.
Reason: i think he will be mid only but he should average 85+ and i need that on my mid bench anyway.
Quote from: elephants on December 13, 2012, 12:34:43 AM
I give: Reece Conca, Oliver Wines, Nick Suban, r57
Whatlez gives: Cyril Rioli, r44, r47
Whatlez to confirm
So who has the pick?!?! And with my trade if it's 3 for 3 then my structure is gone.
... dont national drafted players count towards the cap?
Quote from: Scrads on December 09, 2012, 12:29:31 AM
Holz gives: Rookie 1 + Rookie 35 + Rookie 57
Scrads gives: Rookie 6 + Rookie 15 + Rookie 33
Lez gives: Aaron Sandilands + Rookie 39 + Rookie 43
Holz gets: Aaron Sandilands + Rookie 6
Scrads gets: Rookie 1 + Rookie 39 + Rookie 43 + Rookie 57
Lez gets: Rookie 15 + Rookie 33 + Rookie 35
^Guys Rookie 57 belongs to me
I was told that all your list movements reset for the new period. I want to say that we cannot have a deadline if none of us know what picks we have. we need the front page updated for at least a few hours...
That pick 57 should affect about 5 trades. If I didn't get that I would of needed to sort a different deal out. And I would of liked to keep R47 and then that is on traded to Spite. I'm sure this isn't the first error...
Holz could work a deal for pick 57?
Rook 6
Matthew Rosa
Travis Colyer
James Podsiadly
Jed Bews
All on the table for defenders who ave 75+
haha- Belgium Bashers: flowering up trades since 2011.
Quote from: Ziplock on December 15, 2012, 10:21:38 AM
haha- Belgium Bashers: flowering up trades since 2011.
Actually Holz flowered up the trade.
When does trading close?
No Zip, just no. Don't think you understand the situation :P
National draft players don't count in the cap Lez.
Can we update the OP with picks and confirmed trades? I'll do it if Holz is busy but this rookie 57 stuff is a bit if a cock up.
Trading ends tonight LE...
Well submission of teams cannot be entered until we get trades through. Holz flowered up his trade which affected 4 others. Should be delayed...
Scrads we will give you colyer for r57 then we edit holz deal to
Pearce for r6
And r57 is ours so rest of deals is fixed
If scrads is alright with that
Scrads won't be on today. He has a few things on so he won't be able to confirm that.
Clancee Pearce? for rookie 6?
Clancee Pearce >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rookie 6.
Quote from: whatlez on December 15, 2012, 01:27:21 PM
Scrads won't be on today. He has a few things on so he won't be able to confirm that.
yeah he'll be at work all day then it's his big 21st bash tonight
.....am guessing he'll have a sore head tomorrow lol
Quote from: Nails on December 15, 2012, 01:30:57 PM
Clancee Pearce? for rookie 6?
Clancee Pearce >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rookie 6.
Pearce is mid only
Quote from: nostradamus on December 15, 2012, 01:31:08 PM
Quote from: whatlez on December 15, 2012, 01:27:21 PM
Scrads won't be on today. He has a few things on so he won't be able to confirm that.
yeah he'll be at work all day then it's his big 21st bash tonight
.....am guessing he'll have a sore head tomorrow lol
Yeah I didn't want to say where he is going, cause some people might get offended that we weren't invited :( lol :P
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on October 19, 2012, 05:17:02 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 18, 2012, 09:15:43 PM
Fraser McInnes, Corey Gault, Simon Tunbridge, Tom Curran, Alex Silvangi
Like any of them haha.
our last rookie pick for silvagni?
Deal.
Quote from: whatlez on December 15, 2012, 02:47:07 AM
I was told that all your list movements reset for the new period. I want to say that we cannot have a deadline if none of us know what picks we have. we need the front page updated for at least a few hours...
That pick 57 should affect about 5 trades. If I didn't get that I would of needed to sort a different deal out. And I would of liked to keep R47 and then that is on traded to Spite. I'm sure this isn't the first error...
And on top of that, I can't do any more trades if I don't know if the fyfe trade is going to be veto'ed, which is why we need to hold a vote ASAP. Our team is locked in, we can't even delist players we don't want because we don't know who we have!
Quote from: whatlez on December 15, 2012, 01:33:50 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on December 15, 2012, 01:31:08 PM
Quote from: whatlez on December 15, 2012, 01:27:21 PM
Scrads won't be on today. He has a few things on so he won't be able to confirm that.
yeah he'll be at work all day then it's his big 21st bash tonight
.....am guessing he'll have a sore head tomorrow lol
Yeah I didn't want to say where he is going, cause some people might get offended that we weren't invited :( lol :P
...woops :-[
Quote from: Holzman on December 08, 2012, 10:56:14 PM
the drat is being pushed back a few days so we can get a full list of postions. Therefore we will have a few more days of trading too.
I just found this. So according to this we have to wait until the 17th of December or later. Cause that's when full DPP comes out...
Quote from: CrowsFan on December 15, 2012, 12:38:45 PM
Trading ends tonight LE...
I have heard about 12 different days man...
Quote from: whatlez on December 15, 2012, 01:48:09 PM
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on October 19, 2012, 05:17:02 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 18, 2012, 09:15:43 PM
Fraser McInnes, Corey Gault, Simon Tunbridge, Tom Curran, Alex Silvangi
Like any of them haha.
our last rookie pick for silvagni?
Deal.
No
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 15, 2012, 01:31:47 PM
Quote from: Nails on December 15, 2012, 01:30:57 PM
Clancee Pearce? for rookie 6?
Clancee Pearce >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rookie 6.
Pearce is mid only
90 average mid @ 21yo (without his sub game) and potential future seasons w/ DP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rookie 6.
I'd trade rookie 1 for Clancee Pearce...
Quote from: Nails on December 15, 2012, 02:30:17 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 15, 2012, 01:31:47 PM
Quote from: Nails on December 15, 2012, 01:30:57 PM
Clancee Pearce? for rookie 6?
Clancee Pearce >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rookie 6.
Pearce is mid only
90 average mid @ 21yo (without his sub game) and potential future seasons w/ DP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rookie 6.
I'd trade rookie 1 for Clancee Pearce...
You're right, this trade is unfair, it should go to a vote if our other one is.
De boar equal to Clancee. Fair trade.
Quote from: Nails on December 15, 2012, 02:30:17 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 15, 2012, 01:31:47 PM
Quote from: Nails on December 15, 2012, 01:30:57 PM
Clancee Pearce? for rookie 6?
Clancee Pearce >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rookie 6.
Pearce is mid only
90 average mid @ 21yo (without his sub game) and potential future seasons w/ DP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rookie 6.
I'd trade rookie 1 for Clancee Pearce...
Well offer it to holz then he might take it
Sorry guys this trade period has been a major failure on my behalf but unfortunately it was out of my control. My internet has been down at home and I was working on my comp fixing it out and the mouse died so I couldnt do it.
Im out for the day at a friends wedding and would much appreciate if someone could sort it out. If not i will have to do it very early morning tomorrow which i would prefer not to do as i have my semifinal in the soccer tomorrow but i will do it if need be.
I havent been able to check too much on my phone but i think if we change the deal too R6 for pearce that should work things out. Now in my opinion r57 has essentially zero value and i kind of just threw it in as i knew the bashers had interest in it. The rookie is good but its not that good and i actually dropped it as the players i have i didnt want to delist as i rate above that pick.
On that note of me throwing in the pick for free and also the fact it was orginally carrotts and that got rejected it would be good if it went through. However if they want to reject it thats fine there is lots of quality at r6 anyway.
Only problem I have with R57 is that I would get R47 instead of R80+. I need that pick, and the Bashers needs that pick for the other trade that is in debate.
Yeah I'll update the OP for you Holz.
Clancee for R6 I'm not as keen on. If its too hard then I don't care but it's not the deal that I accepted. Maybe we can work something out later.
But yeah, I'll sort out the OP for you champ
imo just have this trading period until Christmas day then we can do the draft after Christmas as people will start leaving for holidays in the next week or so
I still need fwds/defenders... be on tonight and I'll send out PMs for players I want.
For the good of the comp Fark, Ric and I have decided that we will just drop rookie pick 57 from the Clancee Pearce trade.
Updating the OP now so more announcements to come :)
Okay boys and girls, have just updated every single trade in the post UNDER the OP. I will know get onto sorting out who has which rookie draft picks.
Ele gives: Reece Conca, Oliver Wines, Nick Suban, r57
Whatlez gives: Cyril Rioli, r44, r47
Ele Gives: Toumpas + Vlastuin + Heath + Atkins + Mcintosh + R44 + R47
Spinking Gives: Fyfe + R52 + R63 + Logan
These two trades.
R57 isn't available. If I can't get R47 then I NEED to keep either R47 or R44. And then if I keep one of them, then Spite missed out on one...
Spite gives: Rookie picks 22 + 27
Whatlez gives: Myers + Hall + Gault
Reason: Want some rookie picks since I traded most... -_-
Quote from: whatlez on December 15, 2012, 07:24:22 PM
Spite gives: Rookie picks 22 + 27
Whatlez gives: Myers + Hall + Gault
Reason: Want some rookie picks since I traded most... -_-
Confirm. Needed a backman and a forward which I would have taken in the draft anyway and I know Spinking was keen on hall.
The following amendment has been made to my Rioli trade to allow my Fyfe trade to go through.
This can be seen on the post under the OP.
I accept the adjustment.
hey Ele......pickers has pick 14 and l have 19, but its listed as the other way around (this was done in our Ablett trade)
cheers mate..... ;)
Quote from: whatlez on December 15, 2012, 09:17:48 PM
I accept the adjustment.
8)
Quote from: nostradamus on December 15, 2012, 09:55:49 PM
hey Ele......pickers has pick 14 and l have 19, but its listed as the other way around (this was done in our Ablett trade)
cheers mate..... ;)
Ah, sweet. Thanks mate, must've missed it.
Anyone has any queries then hit me up :)
Didn't get any trades through... our euros = flowered :(
NUMBER 2 NAT DRAFT PICK AVAILABLE Jonathan O'Rourke
Need defenders/fwds - contact me :o
Bashers: Rookie Pick 52
Sons: Matt Jones
Quote from: elephants on December 15, 2012, 10:05:37 PM
Okay mate, if you accept the offer then post up and use this as the confirmation post as I'm out :)
Ele went out :)
Trading finish in 50 minutes? Correct?
Quote from: whatlez on December 16, 2012, 12:09:41 AM
Trading finish in 50 minutes? Correct?
Yep
If you want some of my youngs enquire quick
Last minute trade with Nails.
Trade Now
Rookie 12 + Rookie 17
for
M.Wallis + Rookie 55
Trade after rookie
J.Bartel
for
R.Griffen
Quote from: picker_man on December 16, 2012, 12:52:33 AM
Last minute trade with Nails.
Trade Now
Rookie 12 + Rookie 17
for
M.Wallis + Rookie 55
Trade after rookie
J.Bartel
for
R.Griffen
Confirmed, gives me extra needed forward power w/ Treloar becoming mid only in the last few days... :-\
M. Wallis would be in the top 2-3 19-20yos in the AFL atm IMO, so hurts to see him go... but I guess I'll just cry myself to sleep lol
Pretty good trade, both parties win. Nice work. And that's a wrap.
Quote from: picker_man on December 14, 2012, 11:33:10 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on December 14, 2012, 11:08:06 PM
Ok guys, have a big trade to announce......
Trade Now
l give Jack Redden, Taylor Walker, Mitch Clark + Rookie 14
Pickers gives Gary Ablett, Jack Riewoldt, Travis Varcoe + Rookie 19
Trade after Rookie Draft
l give Sam Gilbert
Pickers gives Paul Chapman
* this is all one deal and is conditional on it all going through
......Pickers to confirm :)
Confirmed :)
Trolls had no structure to be real force next year and getting in some younger guys who I rate highly was best way to go.
I forgot i traded in Chappy of Hp this trade window so can just on trade him instead of giving in next. Ive let Nost know hope thats cool :)
Quote from: picker_man on December 16, 2012, 01:51:44 AM
Quote from: picker_man on December 14, 2012, 11:33:10 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on December 14, 2012, 11:08:06 PM
Ok guys, have a big trade to announce......
Trade Now
l give Jack Redden, Taylor Walker, Mitch Clark + Rookie 14
Pickers gives Gary Ablett, Jack Riewoldt, Travis Varcoe + Rookie 19
Trade after Rookie Draft
l give Sam Gilbert
Pickers gives Paul Chapman
* this is all one deal and is conditional on it all going through
......Pickers to confirm :)
Confirmed :)
Trolls had no structure to be real force next year and getting in some younger guys who I rate highly was best way to go.
I forgot i traded in Chappy of Hp this trade window so can just on trade him instead of giving in next. Ive let Nost know hope thats cool :)
yep its cool with me
Okay, all the final days trades are locked in and the second part of the Pickers-Nostra trade has been bought forward to be included in period 2 :)
Quote from: elephants on December 16, 2012, 02:33:50 PM
Okay, all the final days trades are locked in and the second part of the Pickers-Nostra trade has been bought forward to be included in period 2 :)
Good work ele, thanks for updating everything :)
Quote from: picker_man on December 16, 2012, 02:52:14 PM
Quote from: elephants on December 16, 2012, 02:33:50 PM
Okay, all the final days trades are locked in and the second part of the Pickers-Nostra trade has been bought forward to be included in period 2 :)
Good work ele, thanks for updating everything :)
Too easy mate :)
You the man Ele! :P
Ele there are several more skipped picks in Rook. E.g. Scrads' skipping twice and I know others did too. Just the heaps up.
I was under the impression that the Titans had pick 38 in the draft?
This could be wrong, but I am just going by SpinKings post in the Titans thread with all our picks. I can't find out JB's picks as he doesnt have them posted, so I am not sure.
Quote from: Spite on December 16, 2012, 03:33:26 PM
I was under the impression that the Titans had pick 38 in the draft?
This could be wrong, but I am just going by SpinKings post in the Titans thread with all our picks. I can't find out JB's picks as he doesnt have them posted, so I am not sure.
Titans give: Pick 38 Rookie
Lions give: Seb Ross (St Kilda)
Holz gives: Brodie Smith and Rookie #8
JBs gives: Heath Shaw and Rookie #38
Holz gives: Ahmeed Saad + Rookie 38
JB gives: Craig Moller
Yep thanks whatlez.
I'll have a look into the skipped picks now. Thought I would miss a few!
Quote from: Spite on December 16, 2012, 03:33:26 PM
I was under the impression that the Titans had pick 38 in the draft?
This could be wrong, but I am just going by SpinKings post in the Titans thread with all our picks. I can't find out JB's picks as he doesnt have them posted, so I am not sure.
Spinks traded me for ross
Lists need to be submitted by tonight yeah? Got to get my list done :| lol
The rookie draft order has been updated with Skipped Nat Picks :)
Quote from: Nails on December 16, 2012, 05:28:49 PM
Lists need to be submitted by tonight yeah? Got to get my list done :| lol
Yeah I'm hoping everyone can get them in on time . I have the dekustibg thread so will use that if people can't it done on time.
Quote from: Holzman on December 16, 2012, 09:24:01 PM
Quote from: Nails on December 16, 2012, 05:28:49 PM
Lists need to be submitted by tonight yeah? Got to get my list done :| lol
Yeah I'm hoping everyone can get them in on time . I have the delisting thread so will use that if people can't it done on time.
;)
Quote from: elephants on December 16, 2012, 09:26:00 PM
Quote from: Holzman on December 16, 2012, 09:24:01 PM
Quote from: Nails on December 16, 2012, 05:28:49 PM
Lists need to be submitted by tonight yeah? Got to get my list done :| lol
Yeah I'm hoping everyone can get them in on time . I have the delisting thread so will use that if people can't it done on time.
;)
Haaha
What happens if they arent submitted?
they get sacked and kilbluff1985 is appointed the new coach lol
i'm trying to get involved in all 4 leagues assistant coaching or whatever
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on December 16, 2012, 11:39:25 PM
they get sacked and kilbluff1985 is appointed the new coach lol
i'm trying to get involved in all 4 leagues assistant coaching or whatever
Settle down there, I'm next in line for a coaching gig ;)
Quote from: Adamant on December 16, 2012, 11:45:59 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on December 16, 2012, 11:39:25 PM
they get sacked and kilbluff1985 is appointed the new coach lol
i'm trying to get involved in all 4 leagues assistant coaching or whatever
Settle down there, I'm next in line for a coaching gig ;)
Nope. I'm receiving a 2nd euros team for the next coach that quits ;)
Quote from: Nails on December 17, 2012, 12:22:48 AM
Quote from: Adamant on December 16, 2012, 11:45:59 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on December 16, 2012, 11:39:25 PM
they get sacked and kilbluff1985 is appointed the new coach lol
i'm trying to get involved in all 4 leagues assistant coaching or whatever
Settle down there, I'm next in line for a coaching gig ;)
Nope. I'm receiving a 2nd euros team for the next coach that quits ;)
That makes sense :P
So when is the rookie draft Holz?
Hopefully not too soon... keen to have a bit of a chat w/ PB over who we want to take first... not sure who we want yet.
Quote from: Nails on December 17, 2012, 12:56:13 AM
Hopefully not too soon... keen to have a bit of a chat w/ PB over who we want to take first... not sure who we want yet.
It won't be tonight, but within the next few days. You etter be ready ::)
Drift will be within the next few days. I'm waiting to get the full list of player positions. Once I get that I can start getting the list ready and we can go.
LE are you sure MTTY has pick 3 in rookie draft? :P
I'm sure I fixed that. Ahh well, cheers CF. I'll fix it on the morning and handball responsibilities back to Holz as I go away on Thursday :)
This is why we are superior :P
Torp doesn't get penalised... But... He needs to submit soon... :-X
Quote from: whatlez on December 17, 2012, 10:36:12 AM
This is why we are superior :P
Torp doesn't get penalised... But... He needs to submit soon... :-X
Im thinking losing Buddy franklin is a fair penalty and he should go to whoever won the spoon last year, as its clear that team needs some help to be competetive next year :)
Quote from: Holzman on December 17, 2012, 10:40:07 AM
Quote from: whatlez on December 17, 2012, 10:36:12 AM
This is why we are superior :P
Torp doesn't get penalised... But... He needs to submit soon... :-X
Im thinking losing Buddy franklin is a fair penalty and he should go to whoever won the spoon last year, as its clear that team needs some help to be competetive next year :)
Hahahahaha, please no.
Its all good all lists are in and just waiting on team picker. Rookie draft will start soon. Im going to have fun watchnig 70+ picks go through before i pick up some list filelrs with my picks.
Quote from: Holzman on December 17, 2012, 07:00:41 PM
Its all good all lists are in and just waiting on team picker. Rookie draft will start soon. Im going to have fun watchnig 70+ picks go through before i pick up some list filelrs with my picks.
Just a quick question, are we able to include our 'team filler' picks in trades for trade period 3?
yeah? why wouldnt you?
Quote from: elephants on December 17, 2012, 07:40:55 PM
Quote from: Holzman on December 17, 2012, 07:00:41 PM
Its all good all lists are in and just waiting on team picker. Rookie draft will start soon. Im going to have fun watchnig 70+ picks go through before i pick up some list filelrs with my picks.
Just a quick question, are we able to include our 'team filler' picks in trades for trade period 3?
Do you mean outside the cap?
Quote from: Ziplock on December 17, 2012, 07:44:51 PM
yeah? why wouldnt you?
It seemed a much better question in my head :-\
Yeah it was a good question. So do the rookie players chosen count as a list movement?
Yeah they count this 3rd period is just about fixing DPP changes.
Quote from: Holzman on December 17, 2012, 08:51:45 PM
Yeah they count this 3rd period is just about fixing DPP changes.
http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,69740.0.html
I thought we could trade whoever? As that wasn't mentioned in the rules for next 2 period thread?
If I knew we could only trade for DPP issues I might have pushed through 1 more trade last period... :-\
Quote from: Holzman on December 17, 2012, 08:51:45 PM
Yeah they count this 3rd period is just about fixing DPP changes.
The coaches who had alot of Nat picks have clearly had an advantage to those coaches who have alot of Rookie picks then. Look what the Bashers did with all there Nat picks got Fyfe in, Seems completely unfair a coach with alot of Rookie picks isnt givin the same oppurtunity >:(
If it was going to change for this period I think it should of maybe been mentioned before the other trade window finsihed!!
Agreed... Any player picked in rook draft doesnt count as a list movement
BUT!!!
remember we traded BULK nat pick players for fyfe
In t3 it is 1 for 1 or 2 for 2 so a BULK rookie picked player deal will be harder to orgabise
My view, a list movement is a list movement, regardless of where they are on your list, or when they entered your team.
Quote from: picker_man on December 17, 2012, 10:19:59 PM
Quote from: Holzman on December 17, 2012, 08:51:45 PM
Yeah they count this 3rd period is just about fixing DPP changes.
The coaches who had alot of Nat picks have clearly had an advantage to those coaches who have alot of Rookie picks then. Look what the Bashers did with all there Nat picks got Fyfe in, Seems completely unfair a coach with alot of Rookie picks isnt givin the same oppurtunity >:(
If it was going to change for this period I think it should of maybe been mentioned before the other trade window finsihed!!
coacheswith heaps of nat picks traded fro their nat picks, coaches with heaps of rookie picks traded for those rookie picks- you've disadvantaged yourself, it's a very obvious rule and it's really straight forward.
Quote from: SilkySkills on December 17, 2012, 11:07:10 PM
My view, a list movement is a list movement, regardless of where they are on your list, or when they entered your team.
basically ^ yeah.
as for the fyfe thing... have the votes been counted on that?
Didn't even know a vote took place?
Quote from: Ziplock on December 17, 2012, 11:20:49 PM
Quote from: picker_man on December 17, 2012, 10:19:59 PM
Quote from: Holzman on December 17, 2012, 08:51:45 PM
Yeah they count this 3rd period is just about fixing DPP changes.
The coaches who had alot of Nat picks have clearly had an advantage to those coaches who have alot of Rookie picks then. Look what the Bashers did with all there Nat picks got Fyfe in, Seems completely unfair a coach with alot of Rookie picks isnt givin the same oppurtunity >:(
If it was going to change for this period I think it should of maybe been mentioned before the other trade window finsihed!!
coacheswith heaps of nat picks traded fro their nat picks, coaches with heaps of rookie picks traded for those rookie picks- you've disadvantaged yourself, it's a very obvious rule and it's really straight forward.
Quote from: SilkySkills on December 17, 2012, 11:07:10 PM
My view, a list movement is a list movement, regardless of where they are on your list, or when they entered your team.
basically ^ yeah.
as for the fyfe thing... have the votes been counted on that?
Holz said its passed.
how the flower did a pick upgrade from 57-->47 allow the to be passed?
what ever.
Settle dude, clearly a lot of people disagreed with you.
Quote from: Ziplock on December 17, 2012, 11:20:49 PM
Quote from: picker_man on December 17, 2012, 10:19:59 PM
Quote from: Holzman on December 17, 2012, 08:51:45 PM
Yeah they count this 3rd period is just about fixing DPP changes.
The coaches who had alot of Nat picks have clearly had an advantage to those coaches who have alot of Rookie picks then. Look what the Bashers did with all there Nat picks got Fyfe in, Seems completely unfair a coach with alot of Rookie picks isnt givin the same oppurtunity >:(
If it was going to change for this period I think it should of maybe been mentioned before the other trade window finsihed!!
coacheswith heaps of nat picks traded fro their nat picks, coaches with heaps of rookie picks traded for those rookie picks- you've disadvantaged yourself, it's a very obvious rule and it's really straight forward.
Quote from: SilkySkills on December 17, 2012, 11:07:10 PM
My view, a list movement is a list movement, regardless of where they are on your list, or when they entered your team.
basically ^ yeah.
as for the fyfe thing... have the votes been counted on that?
that makes no sence ???
What are you trying to say is an obviouse rule... If you can show me where it says teams with Nat players can on trade them with no extra list movements but teams with Rookie picks cant... otherwise how is it obviouse where all just meant to know the rule would change like you Zip.... actually prietty sure your the one who asked about it before the last trade period wasnt that obviouse to you either ::)
wait, sorry, I've gotten confused.
didn't national listed players count towards the cap last trade period?! why not?
:S
I mean, if that's what happened, then logically rookie players shouldnt count to the cap either.
Quote from: elephants on December 17, 2012, 11:35:49 PM
Settle dude, clearly a lot of people disagreed with you.
mate, a lot of people agreed with me. But if that's how the voting swung, so be it.
Quote from: Ziplock on December 17, 2012, 11:44:12 PM
wait, sorry, I've gotten confused.
didn't national listed players count towards the cap last trade period?! why not?
:S
I mean, if that's what happened, then logically rookie players shouldnt count to the cap either.
nah they didnt thats my point, someone with 10 Nat players could trade all of them and get say 3 guns in and it didnt count as any list movements, so obviously you would them think someone with alot of rookie picks would have the same oppurtunity or atleast be told the rule was changing before the end of the last trade period to be able to plan differently
Quote from: Ziplock on December 17, 2012, 11:44:12 PM
wait, sorry, I've gotten confused.
didn't national listed players count towards the cap last trade period?! why not?
:S
I mean, if that's what happened, then logically rookie players shouldnt count to the cap either.
They didn't or the bashers would of had 10-12 changes when the max was six!
Holz as an assumption from most, we had ZERO clue that there is that DPP thing you just said out of the blue. That was a Worlds trading rule, but if it wasn't clear, then we should just get a certain amount of list changes and Nat/Rook players do not count as a change.
I've been fairly inactive since the season ended and really cbf reading through the bickering to find anything important. Anyone want to fill me in on what all this arguing about picks, trading, and Fyfe is?
Ele Gives: Toumpas + Vlastuin + Heath + Atkins + Mcintosh + R44 + R47[
Spinking Gives: Fyfe + R52 + R63 + Logan
that was the fyfe trade, that I, and at least 3 other coaches, were opposing for the following reasons (in my case anyway)
Quote from: Ziplock on December 14, 2012, 10:44:18 PM
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on December 14, 2012, 09:47:42 PM
Toumpas in the top 3 rated mids in this draft, vlastuin the highest rated defender in this draft plus heath at port wilk get game time and atkins ans mcintosh while taken late in euro draft, are highly rated prospect players for 2-3 years time. Atkins was linked to bombers at pick 30 odd and has been compared to didak while mcintosh is a running halfback/wingman with height
Spite gets a great load of youth and we get a premium mid...it is pretty flowering fair. We win short term spite wins long term
so? they're still all untried players.
let me throws some names at you.
Laycock
Nicholas smith
daniel bell
ryley dunn
john meesen
dowler
thorp
I've just picked a bunch of names, this isn't even all of them. Most people won't know the majority of these guys, fantasy footballers are probably the only ones who will. Who are they? They're all first round draft picks who never really succeeded. Top 10 picks in quite a few cases. Then you have players like tambling, who are still in the system, but destined for mediocrity.
whats my point? you cant judge how good a player is going to be at AFL just from their draft picks. All those blokes would have been rated as highly talented youngsters. That being said, mcintosh is a key defender who averaged 65 ppg in the WAFl, atkins averaged 82 in TAC, but his STD was 36.51... that's ridiculous for a midfielder, and generally indicates that he dominates weaker opposition, but struggles against quality... hence why he was taken at pick 80. Toumpas is hard to rate because of his injury, while vlastuin only averaged 79 if you remove his outlier in TAC.
Heath is, at the VERY best, injury prone. More probable is just not good enough- if he was a reasonable HB, and I'm talking like ok, not even good, it would be safe to say he'd average like 60-70 ppg in dt and sc. If he was a good hb, we're talking 70+... at which point he would have been playing at sydney. If he was any good, theres no flowering way that sydney, with their aging backline and injuryproness, would have traded him for a flowering pick upgrade from 85 to 72.
To summarise: the bashers have offered- a pick 30 key back, a pick 80 average and incredibly inconsistent midfielder, a top 10 draft pick defender/mid who's good but an average DTer at best and a top 3 pick midfielder. Oh, and 2 small pick upgrades from from 52---> 44 and 63--> 47
For a 100+ extremely highly rated midfielder + some defensive depth.
Why are the bashers so keen for this to go through? because they know they're raping the trade.
People will compare this to the murphy trade I made, but it's completely different for several reasons, firstly, fyfe is younger. Secondly, murphy has established that he really struggles with a tag, which he'll be getting with the decline of judd, thirdly, the nations picks I received were substantially higher and I got 2 extremely talented players. Fourthly, the trade included 2 players, who, like similar to this trade, were also high draft picks, but unlike this trade, have already demonstrated their potential at an AFL level.
when I originally looked at the trade, I thought it was a bit uneven, and said so... then when the bashers started talking it up so much, I thought I'd actually look into all the players involved...
And its obvious this trade is a complete rout.
I'm personally voting for its rejection. It's a loss for spite in both the short term, and the long term. If it was a trade involving someone like boyd etc. I'd probably pass it... but fyfe is 10 years too young to allow this trade to go through.
Oh btw, I never voted lol...
Quote from: LaHug on December 17, 2012, 11:53:40 PM
I've been fairly inactive since the season ended and really cbf reading through the bickering to find anything important. Anyone want to fill me in on what all this arguing about picks, trading, and Fyfe is?
Short and Sweet for you mate.
Fyfe was traded for a bunch of young kids, Zip and 3 or 4 others where against the trade and i think the coaches are still a lil unsure if its gone through or not as it happend a week ago and Holz hasnt mentioned whats happening with it.... i think thats right :-\
In regards to the picks and on trading, Basically anyone in the last trade period who had a National picked player was able to on trade them and it not cost a listmovement i.e - Toumpas, Wines, Whitefield = Cotchin, no list movement except for person trading Cotch. Wiith no notification the rule has been changed and people with alot of rookie picks arnt allowed the same advantage.
Thats about it i think :)
Quote from: whatlez on December 18, 2012, 12:07:36 AM
Oh btw, I never voted lol...
i never voted either, but prietty hard if you dont get a PM asking you too lol
yeah, apparently holz started sending pm's around, and the first 4 came back saying they passed the trade, so he just stopped sending them around and passed it :P
smeh. To be fair though, it only needed 6 votes to pass (since the two parties involved obviously dont get a vote :P )
I really do not know who was unhappy with the trade cept Zip?
Zip and JBs were the most unhappy parties.
Who cares though, its all done and dusted :)
Clarification on this rookie movements rule? My two cents is they shouldn't count. Ridiculously unfair on Pickers if they do!!
Quote from: Ziplock on December 18, 2012, 12:12:15 AM
yeah, apparently holz started sending pm's around, and the first 4 came back saying they passed the trade, so he just stopped sending them around and passed it :P
smeh. To be fair though, it only needed 6 votes to pass (since the two parties involved obviously dont get a vote :P )
I was wrong there zip on review it was 3 pass and 2 reject. But some of them wernt in the comp. Will put it to a vote now.
Let me explain the rookie thing i did want the 2nd and 3rd trade periods just for people to fix up if they say had a guy taken in the nat too early or they lost dpp and needed a small change like a mid for a forward. I should have realised but i was a bit niave to see that the fyfe situation would occur where a team would offer a bunch or rookies for one super star.
Being burnt by that made me restricitive on the rules for the 3rd period but i realise that is unfair on the people with rookie picks. I will have too allow rookie players taken in the rookie draft to be free list movments.
Im going to be very very restricitve next year in trading as im really happy recently in some of the trading as i can see some teams as being stupidly weak next year. Sure there were some guys you would think you woudl beat last year (like me) but there was laways a chance i could win.
There are a few teams i think i could play each week this year and beat them every single time.
The 2nd and 3rd period were supposed to be just for fixing small holes but they have been used to majorly change teams.
Next year all players picks will cost a movement however you got them. Trading period 1 will be where you change your team and traind period 2 and 3 will be mainly for fixing up your teams.
At this stage i wish i had never had a 2nd or 3rd period. Teams were looking much more balanced before that happens. It seems some teams have completely given up being competetive.
Wait, so the Fyfe trade isn't set in stone yet? Gonna be a nervous night! :P
Appreciate the explanation into your thinking Holz :)
I cant speak for other coaches but aslong as the rules are set out and on a thread for everyone to read and understand before any drafting or trading commences next year I cant see there being any problems :) its just when half way through it changes and impacts teams, problems seem to arise.
In regards to some teams changing there trading stratergies and maybe there team looking weaker, can you blame them??. I certainly traded some older guns for good younger players because who has a chance again you and the Bashers?? I want a premiership, I dont wanna finish 3rd or 4th for the next few years behind you guys, and the only way to get one is going a bit younger so I have a team strong enough team to try take over when you and ele are done winning them all. No offence but you having such a strong team probbly contributed to that issue
Please vote, pass cause one of my trades depend on it :P
Quote from: picker_man on December 18, 2012, 12:41:44 AM
Appreciate the explanation into your thinking Holz :)
I cant speak for other coaches but aslong as the rules are set out and on a thread for everyone to read and understand before any drafting or trading commences next year I cant see there being any problems :) its just when half way through it changes and impacts teams, problems seem to arise.
In regards to some teams changing there trading stratergies and maybe there team looking weaker, can you blame them??. I certainly traded some older guns for good younger players because who has a chance again you and the Bashers?? I want a premiership, I dont wanna finish 3rd or 4th for the next few years behind you guys, and the only way to get one is going a bit younger so I have a team strong enough team to try take over when you and ele are done winning them all. No offence but you having such a strong team probbly contributed to that issue
Yes I know I'm part of the problem. I can understand why you would trade your old players away. What I don't understand is why people trade away their young guns if they are going young.
Im thinking of a solution its drastic and I will sleep on it. Don't worry it won't negatively effect anoyone and I'm not changing the rules.
Quote from: whatlez on December 18, 2012, 12:45:39 AM
Please vote, pass cause one of my trades depend on it :P
Maybe you shouldnt vote then.
Just gotta make finals Pickers, anything can happen from there ;)
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 18, 2012, 12:49:06 AM
Quote from: whatlez on December 18, 2012, 12:45:39 AM
Please vote, pass cause one of my trades depend on it :P
Maybe you shouldnt vote then.
People will probably vote against lez just to spite him :)
Quote from: Holzman on December 18, 2012, 12:47:52 AM
Quote from: picker_man on December 18, 2012, 12:41:44 AM
Appreciate the explanation into your thinking Holz :)
I cant speak for other coaches but aslong as the rules are set out and on a thread for everyone to read and understand before any drafting or trading commences next year I cant see there being any problems :) its just when half way through it changes and impacts teams, problems seem to arise.
In regards to some teams changing there trading stratergies and maybe there team looking weaker, can you blame them??. I certainly traded some older guns for good younger players because who has a chance again you and the Bashers?? I want a premiership, I dont wanna finish 3rd or 4th for the next few years behind you guys, and the only way to get one is going a bit younger so I have a team strong enough team to try take over when you and ele are done winning them all. No offence but you having such a strong team probbly contributed to that issue
Yes I know I'm part of the problem. I can understand why you would trade your old players away. What I don't understand is why people trade away their young guns if they are going young.
Im thinking of a solution its drastic and I will sleep on it. Don't worry it won't negatively effect anoyone and I'm not changing the rules.
Points cap?
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 18, 2012, 12:51:13 AM
Quote from: Holzman on December 18, 2012, 12:47:52 AM
Quote from: picker_man on December 18, 2012, 12:41:44 AM
Appreciate the explanation into your thinking Holz :)
I cant speak for other coaches but aslong as the rules are set out and on a thread for everyone to read and understand before any drafting or trading commences next year I cant see there being any problems :) its just when half way through it changes and impacts teams, problems seem to arise.
In regards to some teams changing there trading stratergies and maybe there team looking weaker, can you blame them??. I certainly traded some older guns for good younger players because who has a chance again you and the Bashers?? I want a premiership, I dont wanna finish 3rd or 4th for the next few years behind you guys, and the only way to get one is going a bit younger so I have a team strong enough team to try take over when you and ele are done winning them all. No offence but you having such a strong team probbly contributed to that issue
Yes I know I'm part of the problem. I can understand why you would trade your old players away. What I don't understand is why people trade away their young guns if they are going young.
Im thinking of a solution its drastic and I will sleep on it. Don't worry it won't negatively effect anoyone and I'm not changing the rules.
Points cap?
No nothing like that. Everything will be as normal. No need to worry about anything.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 18, 2012, 12:49:06 AM
Quote from: whatlez on December 18, 2012, 12:45:39 AM
Please vote, pass cause one of my trades depend on it :P
Maybe you shouldnt vote then.
Nah I dont mind either.
Quote from: whatlez on December 18, 2012, 12:45:39 AM
Please vote, pass cause one of my trades depend on it :P
it's good to see that you're going to be taking this trade at face value and remain unbiased...
I'm sure Le would be reasonable enough to take jones for R47 eitherway...
that being said, JB is right- the bashers and greece dont get a vote in this, since this concerns them (it'd be like being accused of a crime, and being part of your own jury), by that logic, your involvement means you probably shouldnt either.
ftr though lez, your own assistant coach also saw this trade as being uneven :P
oh- and everyone, I've exceeded my PM limit for the hour- in case you didnt get my last message- all votes get sent to holz.
Quote from: elephants on December 18, 2012, 12:49:55 AM
Just gotta make finals Pickers, anything can happen from there ;)
Very true mate! with the amount of time i spend on my Euro's team compared to the other 2 i will seriously cry if i dont make these finals :'( lol
Stupid hour thing >:(
Jay?? You never mentioned that Fyfe is an injury prone flower. His shoulders are dead and he is soft as butter. I wouldn't even want him in my team. So whoever loses him, I see the winner.
I don't see it being horrible... And since I've done worse trades.
Just so everyone knows, this Fyfe deal allows Spink and Spite to field a team.
pointless argument, since vlastuin is the only player who's taking the field- can hardly say that it let them field a team when they have like half a dozen rookie picks left to take in which to fill up spots, and the only player you gave them guaranteed 15+ games is toumpas.
My thoughts about the trading.
Agreed that we now have some lopsided teams. There were A LOT of trades and I completely agree that next year the players picked in drafts will count as a list movement. What I don't agree on is a trade of picks counting as a list movement. Some trades need a pick or a pick upgrade on the end of them just as that little 'evener' to help the trade along and I think that would be unfair to make that count towards their list movements.
e.g. Scott Pendlebury + Pick 30 for Zac Dawson + Pick 40 to me should only count as one list movement.
The other thing I disliked was trades being spread over trade periods. The only thing against that though is that it would be impossible to stop if the coaches just kept it secret that 2 separate trades were actually linked and did it anyway.
Think the caps on the trade periods should also have slightly lesser caps next year (although I think Holz has mentioned this).
Holz this new 'idea' you have did you want to share it with us ? Might be helpful to get some general feedback from everyone.
Trade of picks never counted as list movement ???
Scrads, that trade is super even. Holz I would get on that deal :o
Cant see how you can say its ubfair because these rookies are unkown scoring potential
You brang up the mitch thorp and laycock debate. Lets spin that round and say wat if toumpas becomes selwood and vlastuin becomes a 300 game 90 av defender
Toumpas played 2 years of sanfl, played ais, sa captain and has great dt stats as a junior. His chances of converting this to the afl are pretty high especially at melb where he will be given oppourtunities
Like it has been raised tonight no offence to spite but he probsbly isnt in premiership contention this year, while the bashers are! We get a premium player short term while our premiership window is open, spite gets lots of youth to develop while his window is closed in the hope of turning this youth into 2-3 premium players when his window opens down the track
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on December 18, 2012, 01:29:47 AM
Cant see how you can say its ubfair because these rookies are unkown scoring potential
You brang up the mitch thorp and laycock debate. Lets spin that round and say wat if toumpas becomes selwood and vlastuin becomes a 300 game 90 av defender
Toumpas played 2 years of sanfl, played ais, sa captain and has great dt stats as a junior. His chances of converting this to the afl are pretty high especially at melb where he will be given oppourtunities
Like it has been raised tonight no offence to spite but he probsbly isnt in premiership contention this year, while the bashers are! We get a premium player short term while our premiership window is open, spite gets lots of youth to develop while his window is closed in the hope of turning this youth into 2-3 premium players when his window opens down the track
Fyfe's 21, wouldnt call him a short term premium ;)
Thanks for catching me up to date, guys!
ALERT: The Bison are looking for a Captain option. Basically, we want a key DT mid and are willing to trade you some of our delicious forward line to get it. Send your offers!
Quote from: Ziplock on December 18, 2012, 12:55:07 AM
Quote from: whatlez on December 18, 2012, 12:45:39 AM
Please vote, pass cause one of my trades depend on it :P
it's good to see that you're going to be taking this trade at face value and remain unbiased...
I'm sure Le would be reasonable enough to take jones for R47 eitherway...
that being said, JB is right- the bashers and greece dont get a vote in this, since this concerns them (it'd be like being accused of a crime, and being part of your own jury), by that logic, your involvement means you probably shouldnt either.
ftr though lez, your own assistant coach also saw this trade as being uneven :P
oh- and everyone, I've exceeded my PM limit for the hour- in case you didnt get my last message- all votes get sent to holz.
ok so do those who were putting up offers fo fyfe and missed out also not get to vote... because they don't want the trade to pass as much as the bashers and greece do want it
Quote from: picker_man on December 18, 2012, 01:33:26 AM
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on December 18, 2012, 01:29:47 AM
Cant see how you can say its ubfair because these rookies are unkown scoring potential
You brang up the mitch thorp and laycock debate. Lets spin that round and say wat if toumpas becomes selwood and vlastuin becomes a 300 game 90 av defender
Toumpas played 2 years of sanfl, played ais, sa captain and has great dt stats as a junior. His chances of converting this to the afl are pretty high especially at melb where he will be given oppourtunities
Like it has been raised tonight no offence to spite but he probsbly isnt in premiership contention this year, while the bashers are! We get a premium player short term while our premiership window is open, spite gets lots of youth to develop while his window is closed in the hope of turning this youth into 2-3 premium players when his window opens down the track
Fyfe's 21, wouldnt call him a short term premium ;)
Yes he is 21 but he will ave 95 this year while toumpas will ave 75-80
This trade is like an investment property for spite
He has put x dollars in to buy the house (fyfe for toumpas, vlaus + other youth)
In 3-4 years time his house will be worth 2-3x dollars (he will own 2-3 fyfes)
I see Fyfe an overrated flog who will problem get injured. I see Spite winning :o (well not fully)
I like Rics point on people will be against just the fact that they missed out on Fyfe...
I thought there many other questionable trades over this one...
Surely it comes down to how you rate Fyfe. Personally, I rate him as a 110+ DTer for years to come. Yes, there's injury risks, but it's hard to bet that they'll plague his career when he's only 21.
Quote from: Ricochet on December 18, 2012, 01:40:21 AM
Quote from: Ziplock on December 18, 2012, 12:55:07 AM
Quote from: whatlez on December 18, 2012, 12:45:39 AM
Please vote, pass cause one of my trades depend on it :P
it's good to see that you're going to be taking this trade at face value and remain unbiased...
I'm sure Le would be reasonable enough to take jones for R47 eitherway...
that being said, JB is right- the bashers and greece dont get a vote in this, since this concerns them (it'd be like being accused of a crime, and being part of your own jury), by that logic, your involvement means you probably shouldnt either.
ftr though lez, your own assistant coach also saw this trade as being uneven :P
oh- and everyone, I've exceeded my PM limit for the hour- in case you didnt get my last message- all votes get sent to holz.
ok so do those who were putting up offers fo fyfe and missed out also not get to vote... because they don't want the trade to pass as much as the bashers and greece do want it
haha. That'd presuming that those who were rejected because of fyfe are rejecting the trade out of spite- we gain nothing from the trade going through, but in the hypothetical scenario that it's an even trade we lose nothing either.
secondly, greece havent been pushing hard for this to go through- they've said they're happy for it to go to a vote and whatever we say they'll abide by... only the bashers are really pushing for this to go through, further indicative of it being an uneven trade.
Fark- stop talking out of your ass. 'He'll average 95 this year' if that's so, why did you 'trade 2-3 premium players for him', since you have several other players in that scoring range who could easily take his place if he's a 'short term gain'. Half the things you say contradict eachother.
Ok, I'm cracking open my stats book now. I'm going to start at the 02 draft and move upwards for the first round, these are career high averages ftr.
02 draft first round:
100+: 1
90+:3
80+:5
<60: 6
03 draft:
100+: 2 (although that includes mclean)
90+: 3
80+: 1 (discluding walkers 7 game season, 2 otherwise)
<70: 6
04 draft:
100+: 2
90+:2
80+: 3
<70: 4
04 draft:
100+: 3
90+: 2
80+: 3
<60: 3
I'm going to stop there, since anyone taken after that draft is still young enough that they mightnt have hit their potential- I didnt really take anyone before the 02 draft, since the game has changed substantially since those players were drafted, and a lot of the players would have had their careers ended before todays high DT scoring game. So I've actually tweaked the stats slightly to suit your arguments by doing that... even so, it's incredibly easy to see that in every draft, more shower cows are taken, in the first round, let alone that showerhouse national 80 pick you traded, than decent, premium players.
Quote from: whatlez on December 18, 2012, 02:21:49 AM
I see Fyfe an overrated flog who will problem get injured. I see Spite winning :o (well not fully)
I like Rics point on people will be against just the fact that they missed out on Fyfe...
I thought there many other questionable trades over this one...
not all of us are hormonal, retarded teenagers lez- I'm not going to hold a grudge just because I didn't get fyfe... flower knows I wish I'd managed to get a player who went 100+ before he was a teenager for a bunch of hacks like that.
For instance, I was negotiating with spite for fyfe before he informed me that toga was close to getting a deal... I was a bit disappointed, but it's his call who he wants to trade with, and I wouldn't have mentioned it again... until I saw the piece of shower that the bashers were raping one of the already weakest teams in the competition with.
like I was a bit hazy on the trade when I thought it was hamish mcintosh, but I wouldn't have put it to a vote, since imo trades should only be blocked if a team is getting absolutely bent over.
But, since it's not H mcintosh, but a 65 avg. key defender, this is completely bent over.
I have absolutely nothing to gain from blocking this trade- I wont be able to get fyfe into my team eitherway.
And if it was fair trade, I'd have nothing to lose either- the bashers would hypothetically be weakened as much as they strengthened themselves in one way or another.
But, since it's not a fair trade, everyone in the competition is losing out- the bashers are significantly strengthening themselves more than they are losing, and with fyfe youth, thats a lonnnnng lasting impact.
As for fyfe only playing like 46/66 possible games so far, players like ablett, pendlebury hadnt played much more at this stage in their career- most players only play like half a season in their first year, so all you have is pretty much 1 injury warping his average games played from such a low pool of stats.
Zip, serious question... Do you have a life?
serious question: are you going to have a fyfe?
:P
I'm going to bed but, I'm tired.
Quote from: elephants on December 18, 2012, 03:01:37 AM
Zip, serious question... Do you have a life?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA flower ME HAHAHAHA
Well another point, your trying to say toumpas wont be a 90+ player
Consider the players from those drafts who were top ten and aversged 70 and below
My guess is mostvof them were kpp or had low stats at junior level or went to top 8 sides where they were guven minimal gametimei.e plowman
Now look at the players who went on to av 90+. My guess is alot of them are mids similar to toumpas who ave 30 disposals in sanfl 18s and played 2 years of senior footy, ave 20+ touches, csptained there state 18s side, played ais and is at melb where he is in best 22 already!
Vlaustin, Heath, Mcintosh while they might not become 90+ defenders are capable of being 75-85 defenders which are valuable in this comp. All 3 are young and are at clubs where they will be given gametime and an oppourtunity to shine
Atkins while he might be a year or two off getting a game at crows, he collected 50 touches in a tac cup game. He is a dt player and has been compared to didak
Could you imagine in 4-6 years we look back at this trade and it is
100av mid + 3x 75av def + 90av fwd for 95-105 av mid
Im not saying that will happen but it isnt outta the question
We traded hard for nat picks, we picked the best dt youth in the comp and now we are trying to cash in on our smart recruiting, we arent ripping spite off the deal suits us now while our premiership window is open, the deal suits spite in a few yrs when his premiership window opens
Ill admit we have won a lot of trades this year
In particular any trade with torps :p
But this trade was discussed all trade period until both parties were happy, its not like we slapped it together last minute
Sorry for all the typos im on my phone. flowering phone keypads thede days and their small sensitive touch screens aaargh
Xx
Quote from: whatlez on December 18, 2012, 12:58:44 AM
Stupid hour thing >:(
Jay?? You never mentioned that Fyfe is an injury prone flower. His shoulders are dead and he is soft as butter. I wouldn't even want him in my team. So whoever loses him, I see the winner.
I don't see it being horrible... And since I've done worse trades.
here it is Lez:
Quote from: Jayman on December 14, 2012, 08:51:17 PM
I am only an assistant to the Sons in this comp. but couldn't help but throw my 2cents in on the 'Fyfe' trade.
Not to get on the bad side of anyone, but I think it needs to go to a vote. Fyfe is a young, premium that will without a doubt be a star of the comp. soon, if not already.
Toumpas and Vlastuin may turn out to be very good players but no matter how high they were drafted they are still unproven at AFL level.
Just my thoughts, but a trade like this where a star is traded for un-proven players deserves to go to a vote :)
soo why didn't this get blocked/go to vote?
Eagles Receive: Michael Barlow
Dino's Receive: Nat Pick 1
Barlow is a 24yr old proven 110 player, and we got Fyfe who is a 21 yr old and yes has potential to be a gun but hasn't passed 100 yet.
so
Proven 110 Player
for
N1
compared to
Young 100 player
for
N3 + N14 + N54 + N66 + 2nd year 60 player + Rookie Upgrades
Oh and Spite chucked in Logan, a 58 player who he was going to delist anyway. You can take him out if you like but we have paid so much more than that Barlow trade
^^ this is true. Hawka strikes again lol
Quote from: Ricochet on December 18, 2012, 11:08:42 AM
soo why didn't this get blocked/go to vote?
Eagles Receive: Michael Barlow
Dino's Receive: Nat Pick 1
Barlow is a 24yr old proven 110 player, and we got Fyfe who is a 21 yr old and yes has potential to be a gun but hasn't passed 100 yet.
so
Proven 110 Player
for
N1
compared to
Young 100 player
for
N3 + N14 + N54 + N66 + 2nd year 60 player + Rookie Upgrades
Oh and Spite chucked in Logan, a 58 player who he was going to delist anyway. You can take him out if you like but we have paid so much more than that Barlow trade
the difference i see here is you dont give N3 + n14 you gave toumpas and valustin. When i gave pick 1 i let hawka have the option of picking anyone he wanted, If you had of given N3 + n14 instead of wines and vlaustin i would be defending the trade. Toumpas i dont see ath the 3rd best player in the draft for me he is in the 5-10 range.
I would happily give you guys barlow for fyfe if barlow is a 110 player and fyfe only a 95 :)
Quote from: Holzman on December 18, 2012, 11:42:56 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 18, 2012, 11:08:42 AM
soo why didn't this get blocked/go to vote?
Eagles Receive: Michael Barlow
Dino's Receive: Nat Pick 1
Barlow is a 24yr old proven 110 player, and we got Fyfe who is a 21 yr old and yes has potential to be a gun but hasn't passed 100 yet.
so
Proven 110 Player
for
N1
compared to
Young 100 player
for
N3 + N14 + N54 + N66 + 2nd year 60 player + Rookie Upgrades
Oh and Spite chucked in Logan, a 58 player who he was going to delist anyway. You can take him out if you like but we have paid so much more than that Barlow trade
the difference i see here is you dont give N3 + n14 you gave toumpas and valustin. When i gave pick 1 i let hawka have the option of picking anyone he wanted, If you had of given N3 + n14 instead of wines and vlaustin i would be defending the trade. Toumpas i dont see ath the 3rd best player in the draft for me he is in the 5-10 range.
I would happily give you guys barlow for fyfe if barlow is a 110 player and fyfe only a 95 :)
don't forget we are not drafting based on real life, we are drafting based on DT potential... so N1 in the AFL doesn't necessarily equal N1 in this draft. I think Toumpas is a top 5 pick for this, but I'll go with N8
N8 + N14 + N54 + N66 + 2nd year 60 player + Rookie Upgrades
its still a lot more than just N1
And fyfe is worth a lot more than Barlow.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 18, 2012, 11:51:19 AM
And fyfe is worth a lot more than Barlow.
Highly, highly debatable.
Did Nails vote? If not can i vote for him? I am opposed to the trade, having the same view as Ziplock.
Quote from: elephants on December 18, 2012, 01:03:28 AM
Just so everyone knows, this Fyfe deal allows Spink and Spite to field a team.
Fair point, no-one likes a side which provides no competition at all. (Serious comment not sarcasm) BUT, had there been little to no trades made to the Greek side from last season to this season, a full side is easily achievable. So it is the way the side is managed really. :-\ And they are going for youth, so as Spite has told me they aren't gonna be competitive next year anyway, it wasn't in the plan.
So i think that point means nothing in the concept of the trade.
Quote from: Holzman on December 18, 2012, 12:52:26 PM
Quote from: elephants on December 18, 2012, 12:50:11 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 18, 2012, 11:51:19 AM
And fyfe is worth a lot more than Barlow.
Highly, highly debatable.
lets strike that deal up than :)
We don't have Fyfey yet :P I'd probably rate Fyfey higher but JBs point is irrelevant.
If Fyfe is worth more, we paid more for him than Holz paid for Barlow.
You get me?
Quote from: SilkySkills on December 18, 2012, 12:56:03 PM
Did Nails vote? If not can i vote for him? I am opposed to the trade, having the same view as Ziplock.
Quote from: elephants on December 18, 2012, 01:03:28 AM
Just so everyone knows, this Fyfe deal allows Spink and Spite to field a team.
Fair point, no-one likes a side which provides no competition at all. (Serious comment not sarcasm) BUT, had there been little to no trades made to the Greek side from last season to this season, a full side is easily achievable. So it is the way the side is managed really. :-\ And they are going for youth, so as Spite has told me they aren't gonna be competitive next year anyway, it wasn't in the plan.
So i think that point means nothing in the concept of the trade.
Spite/Spink said it himself, purely going off that.
I find it funny that Holz is against it, but has Vlastin in his DT this upcoming season lol.
In dt potemtial from this draft it provs goes
Whitfield
Martin
Toumpas
Wines
While orourke and plowman were taken before toumpas because they suited gws needs
Toumpas comes into the afl with a high calibre junior career behind him
An Sanfl premiership
Under 18s sanfl mvps
Numerous metro west medals
Captain of sa side
Ais representative
How is he not in the top 3 players of this draft!!!
I think we are better off just letting the votes sort it our Fark, nothing we can do now...
Quote from: elephants on December 18, 2012, 01:26:46 PM
I think we are better off just letting the votes sort it our Fark, nothing we can do now...
yeh but it shouldnt even be going to vote if the Barlow one didn't
Why did this take a week to go to vote?
Quote from: whatlez on December 18, 2012, 01:16:24 PM
I find it funny that Holz is against it, but has Vlastin in his DT this upcoming season lol.
He's a cash cow...no salary cap in euros.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 18, 2012, 02:51:17 PM
Quote from: whatlez on December 18, 2012, 01:16:24 PM
I find it funny that Holz is against it, but has Vlastin in his DT this upcoming season lol.
He's a cash cow...no salary cap in euros.
There are plenty of other backmen with better JS than Vlastuin. He must see something.
Quote from: elephants on December 18, 2012, 03:40:51 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 18, 2012, 02:51:17 PM
Quote from: whatlez on December 18, 2012, 01:16:24 PM
I find it funny that Holz is against it, but has Vlastin in his DT this upcoming season lol.
He's a cash cow...no salary cap in euros.
There are plenty of other backmen with better JS than Vlastuin. He must see something.
I pick the most expensive rookie player so it means i fit under the cap and if a cheaper guy somes along who is better i just downgrade to him.
the last back 4 is what im most strugglign with.
Quote from: Holzman on December 18, 2012, 03:45:01 PM
Quote from: elephants on December 18, 2012, 03:40:51 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 18, 2012, 02:51:17 PM
Quote from: whatlez on December 18, 2012, 01:16:24 PM
I find it funny that Holz is against it, but has Vlastin in his DT this upcoming season lol.
He's a cash cow...no salary cap in euros.
There are plenty of other backmen with better JS than Vlastuin. He must see something.
I pick the most expensive rookie player so it means i fit under the cap and if a cheaper guy somes along who is better i just downgrade to him.
the last back 4 is what im most strugglign with.
Vlas is in my dt!! Hardwick is in love with him coz he plays like hardwick a bit. I see vlas playing 22 games this year.
Well that was an interesting read.
I do see toumpas being a top 3 scoring mid from this draft though, especially at a club that will play him like melbourne, so I value him at that.
Couldn't be bothered reading all the bickering etc.
Are the Bashers/Holz team that fair ahead of us Swedes that we're no chance? :(
Cox, Stevie J, Bartel, NRoo, Higgins fwds should be handy for us :X
Quote from: Nails on December 18, 2012, 05:15:36 PM
Couldn't be bothered reading all the bickering etc.
Are the Bashers/Holz team that fair ahead of us Swedes that we're no chance? :(
Cox, Stevie J, Bartel, NRoo, Higgins fwds should be handy for us :X
Yes. :(
Damn it, needed to make more trades... but just couldn't get them through with our lack of top notch options... not many after mids :X
Quote from: Nails on December 18, 2012, 05:15:36 PM
Couldn't be bothered reading all the bickering etc.
Are the Bashers/Holz team that fair ahead of us Swedes that we're no chance? :(
Cox, Stevie J, Bartel, NRoo, Higgins fwds should be handy for us :X
Daisy, Robinson, Pavlich, Rioli, Knights, Blair.
Quote from: Ricochet on December 18, 2012, 11:08:42 AM
soo why didn't this get blocked/go to vote?
Eagles Receive: Michael Barlow
Dino's Receive: Nat Pick 1
Barlow is a 24yr old proven 110 player, and we got Fyfe who is a 21 yr old and yes has potential to be a gun but hasn't passed 100 yet.
so
Proven 110 Player
for
N1
compared to
Young 100 player
for
N3 + N14 + N54 + N66 + 2nd year 60 player + Rookie Upgrades
Oh and Spite chucked in Logan, a 58 player who he was going to delist anyway. You can take him out if you like but we have paid so much more than that Barlow trade
as holz said, national picks rather than the players provide way more flexibility. As for barlow, he's firstly 26 years old, and secondly has averaged significantly lower since a hideous leg break.
Quote from: elephants on December 18, 2012, 03:40:51 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 18, 2012, 02:51:17 PM
Quote from: whatlez on December 18, 2012, 01:16:24 PM
I find it funny that Holz is against it, but has Vlastin in his DT this upcoming season lol.
He's a cash cow...no salary cap in euros.
There are plenty of other backmen with better JS than Vlastuin. He must see something.
exactly. plenty of other backs with decent JS- and he's an average DTer at best on top of that- therefore not worth that much.
I'm just going to ignore fark, he's just talking out of his ass.
Nails, we can try to talk a trade next period... you don't have heaps of players I want though :/
Quote from: Ziplock on December 18, 2012, 06:08:06 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 18, 2012, 11:08:42 AM
soo why didn't this get blocked/go to vote?
Eagles Receive: Michael Barlow
Dino's Receive: Nat Pick 1
Barlow is a 24yr old proven 110 player, and we got Fyfe who is a 21 yr old and yes has potential to be a gun but hasn't passed 100 yet.
so
Proven 110 Player
for
N1
compared to
Young 100 player
for
N3 + N14 + N54 + N66 + 2nd year 60 player + Rookie Upgrades
Oh and Spite chucked in Logan, a 58 player who he was going to delist anyway. You can take him out if you like but we have paid so much more than that Barlow trade
as holz said, national picks rather than the players provide way more flexibility. As for barlow, he's firstly 26 years old, and secondly has averaged significantly lower since a hideous leg break.
oh sorry... his birthday is today.
and Fyfe has averaged significant lower since doing his shoulders ::) barlow still averaged close to 100 coming off a season still playing in pain. It was only towards the end of the season where he was playing pain free (he averaged like 105 from round 7)
we still paid showerloads more than Holz did
not really- number 1 draft picks are really the only ones that never fail DT wise :P
*not including youngsters like kreuzer/ watts who havent developed*
Quote from: Ziplock on December 18, 2012, 06:39:03 PM
not really- number 1 draft picks are really the only ones that never fail DT wise :P
*not including youngsters like kreuzer/ watts who havent developed*
so...
N1 > N3 + N14 + N54 + N66 + 2nd year 60 player + Rookie Upgrades
::)
Wellingham Fwd/Mid!!!! Yay :D
Quote from: whatlez on December 18, 2012, 07:08:20 PM
Wellingham Fwd/Mid!!!! Yay :D
Wow didn't see that coming :o
Lads, lets have a decision on this Fyfe trade and move on.
The team picker is open and thus the rookie draft can start ;)
Least i know everything about Toumpas and Vlas now...... thanks :-\ haha
This is becoming a prietty rediculouse arguement!!! Even though everyone seems to think they know everything about everyone, the fact is no one can be accurate on what these Nat players will score so basing a decision on you thinking he's going to be a shower DT scorer IMO is pointless!
Spink and Spite are getting 2 top 15 picks and whole bunch of other guys for one premium and older backup defender, I dont know there thinking for the future but its prietty clear this trade fits in with there team structure and thats all you can go on as alot of these players are untried at AFL level yet.
So if you didnt get Fyfe get over it, If your now threatend by the Bashers get over it, its clearly a fair trade as fits in with both teams structures and getting in very young players reflects all the other trades Spink and Spite did and that IMO is all you can go on as know one knows what the other coach is thinking for the future!
Trent McKenzie Def only.
Jared Brennan Def only.
And I have a bad back line?
Quote from: whatlez on December 18, 2012, 07:18:05 PM
Trent McKenzie Def only.
Jared Brennan Def only.
And I have a bad back line?
you are so lucky you got Mckenzie of MM before he handed it over to me >:( haha
flowering curnow in return ::) haha
Quote from: picker_man on December 18, 2012, 07:21:17 PM
Quote from: whatlez on December 18, 2012, 07:18:05 PM
Trent McKenzie Def only.
Jared Brennan Def only.
And I have a bad back line?
you are so lucky you got Mckenzie of MM before he handed it over to me >:( haha
flowering curnow in return ::) haha
Cheers for him in asians :P
Jared Brennan Def only?
flower YES WORLDS!!!!
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 18, 2012, 07:28:50 PM
Quote from: picker_man on December 18, 2012, 07:21:17 PM
Quote from: whatlez on December 18, 2012, 07:18:05 PM
Trent McKenzie Def only.
Jared Brennan Def only.
And I have a bad back line?
you are so lucky you got Mckenzie of MM before he handed it over to me >:( haha
flowering curnow in return ::) haha
Cheers for him in asians :P
haha i was thinking im sure i own him in Asians still..... then remembered that trade >:( lol
David Hille is a fwd/ruck. yay i guess haha
Looking for mids now. PM me. This s fixing up DPP problems :)
Ayce Cordy F/R hahaha yay :P
I have gained the best DPP out of anyone.
McKenzie (Def)
Brennan (Def)
Mayes (Mid/Fwd
J.Simpson (Mid/Fwd)
Wellingham (Mid/Fwd)
Petrenko (Mid)
Pop (Fwd)
Sooo Holz? When will the rookie draft start?
Quote from: whatlez on December 18, 2012, 08:35:14 PM
Sooo Holz? When will the rookie draft start?
when i can get a list of all players on euro lists already. (in althabetic order)
A list of all guys leftover from this nat period, players taken in the rookie, and players taken in the PSD.
JB is helping me with this.
Quote from: whatlez on December 18, 2012, 08:05:50 PM
I have gained the best DPP out of anyone.
McKenzie (Def)
Brennan (Def)
Mayes (Mid/Fwd
J.Simpson (Mid/Fwd)
Wellingham (Mid/Fwd)
Petrenko (Mid)
Pop (Fwd)
Broughton (B/F)
Hartlett (B/M)
Pederson (B/R)
Ryder (R/F)
Cordy (R/F)
Bartel (M/F) (traded)
Mine was pretty good also :)
yeah Scrads kill's you Lez, your players are shower who got it except Mckenzie and maybe Wellingham :P
Im keen as to get this rookie draft going tonight so if i can help in anyway Holz let me know :)
Do you wanna do the lists pickers? I won't be starting them til I get back from gym in an hour and a half so if u wanna jump in so we can start?
Quote from: picker_man on December 18, 2012, 08:48:56 PM
yeah Scrads kill's you Lez, your players are shower who got it except Mckenzie and maybe Wellingham :P
Im keen as to get this rookie draft going tonight so if i can help in anyway Holz let me know :)
Well JB said he woudlnt be doing that stuff till the nighttime so if you coudl get it dowen beofre that i would really appreciate it. The most important time for running a comp has come at the worst time for me.
Well you did go alright Scrads, but Broughts won't be used in Fwds so irrelevant. Cordy is shower. Ryder was traded in after DPP I'm sure?? Pedo was also traded in after DPP?
all of those players I mentioned were speculated trade in's that I had the slightest feeling that they may get DPP (cept Welly)
My Changes.
Lids (lost DPP)
Gibbs (gained DPP)
and Zach Clarke playing up front all year somehwoe didnt get F status.
Daisy gets fwd status while Clancee and Conca (bullsh!t) lost it and became mids only.
Quote from: elephants on December 18, 2012, 09:07:02 PM
Daisy gets fwd status while Clancee and Conca (bullsh!t) lost it and became mids only.
Goooo Conca!!
Quote from: whatlez on December 18, 2012, 09:00:42 PM
Well you did go alright Scrads, but Broughts won't be used in Fwds so irrelevant. Cordy is shower. Ryder was traded in after DPP I'm sure?? Pedo was also traded in after DPP?
all of those players I mentioned were speculated trade in's that I had the slightest feeling that they may get DPP (cept Welly)
Broughton might get used Forward if injuries hit (which could be very handy). Cordy just depth. Ryder was targetted mainly for having the DPP. Pedo confirmed DPP after the trade.
Yeah but like Pickers said pretty much all those players were spuds except Welly and maybe McKenzie :P
Quote from: Scrads on December 18, 2012, 09:08:15 PM
Quote from: whatlez on December 18, 2012, 09:00:42 PM
Well you did go alright Scrads, but Broughts won't be used in Fwds so irrelevant. Cordy is shower. Ryder was traded in after DPP I'm sure?? Pedo was also traded in after DPP?
all of those players I mentioned were speculated trade in's that I had the slightest feeling that they may get DPP (cept Welly)
Broughton might get used Forward if injuries hit (which could be very handy). Cordy just depth. Ryder was targetted mainly for having the DPP. Pedo confirmed DPP after the trade.
Yeah but like Pickers said pretty much all those players were spuds except Welly and maybe McKenzie :P
Brennan? Been a gun in the past, training the house down at Arizona and was voted best trained or some shower. Petrenko will be a handy player. Sam Mayes = Gun, Josh Simpson = Gun.
How is petrenko changing to mid good?
Mayes and Simpson are rookies so doesn't matter they will average 60 this yeAR nothing special
I would say the Bashers are the best covered for future DPP changes.
For example, if Daisy goes back to pure MID next year, they can put Daisy back in the Mids (replacing Carrots when he retires), and chuck Blair onto the forwards field. Pretty handy.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 18, 2012, 09:14:24 PM
How is petrenko changing to mid good?
Mayes and Simpson are rookies so doesn't matter they will average 60 this yeAR nothing special
Petrenko was pure mid, now pure forward ::)
Ok well you listed him as a mid. Anyway doesn't matter he's not fantasy relevant.
Initially this was an even trade:
Macedonia Receive:Kurt Tippett + National Draft Pick #35
Scotland Receive:Alex Fasolo + Sharrod Wellingham
Then with Tippett's suspension it became in my favour slightly
Then with Tippett's suspension and Welly moved to Mid/Fwd.
I vote this, the trade of the year :D
Quote from: Holzman on December 18, 2012, 08:37:21 PM
Quote from: whatlez on December 18, 2012, 08:35:14 PM
Sooo Holz? When will the rookie draft start?
when i can get a list of all players on euro lists already. (in althabetic order)
A list of all guys leftover from this nat period, players taken in the rookie, and players taken in the PSD.
JB is helping me with this.
How's the progress fellas?
Quote from: whatlez on December 18, 2012, 09:36:47 PM
Initially this was an even trade:
Macedonia Receive:Kurt Tippett + National Draft Pick #35
Scotland Receive:Alex Fasolo + Sharrod Wellingham
Then with Tippett's suspension it became in my favour slightly
Then with Tippett's suspension and Welly moved to Mid/Fwd.
I vote this, the trade of the year :D
What about my Gram for Foley ? :P
Quote from: whatlez on December 18, 2012, 09:43:25 PM
Quote from: Holzman on December 18, 2012, 08:37:21 PM
Quote from: whatlez on December 18, 2012, 08:35:14 PM
Sooo Holz? When will the rookie draft start?
when i can get a list of all players on euro lists already. (in althabetic order)
A list of all guys leftover from this nat period, players taken in the rookie, and players taken in the PSD.
JB is helping me with this.
How's the progress fellas?
I am currently doing the leftover EXV Nat Picks, AFL PSD/RD picks... Pickers is doing the total list of Euro players taken (in alphabetical order).
Quote from: Scrads on December 18, 2012, 09:48:33 PM
Quote from: whatlez on December 18, 2012, 09:36:47 PM
Initially this was an even trade:
Macedonia Receive:Kurt Tippett + National Draft Pick #35
Scotland Receive:Alex Fasolo + Sharrod Wellingham
Then with Tippett's suspension it became in my favour slightly
Then with Tippett's suspension and Welly moved to Mid/Fwd.
I vote this, the trade of the year :D
What about my Gram for Foley ? :P
Ok you take the cake haha.
Unpicked Players leftover from EXV National Draft:
Ben Richmond (Collingwood Rookie) (ALSO IN LIST OF AFL ROOKIE PICKS)
Gideon Simon (Richmond Rookie)
Michael Close (AFL Pick 32)
Jackson Ramsay (AFL Pick 38)
Josh Saunders (AFL Pick 43)
Harrison Marsh (AFL Pick 44)
Mitchell Wilkins (AFL Pick 47)
Martin Gleeson (AFL Pick 53)
Adam Carter (AFL Pick 59)
Matthew Dick (AFL Pick 65)
Kaiden Brand (AFL Pick 66)
Lewis Pierce (AFL Pick 75)
Sean Gregory (AFL Pick 88)
AFL PSD Picks:
(left out all the passes)
1. Bret Thornton (GWS)
3. Sam Colquhoun (PTA)
6. Will Hams (ESS)
8. Jack Hannath (FREM)
10. Nick Joyce (ADEL)
11. Kurt Tippett (SYD) (INELIGIBLE)
12. Dean Brogan (GWS)
14. Jesse Crichton (FREM)
AFL Rookie Draft:
1. GWS - PASS
2. GC - Leigh Osborne
3. MELB - Nathan Stark
4. WB - Brett Goodes
5. PTA - Kane Mitchell
6. BRIS - Nick Hayes
7. RICH - Ricky Petterd
8. ESS - Ariel Steinberg
9. CARL - Jaryd Cachia
10. NM - Tim McGenniss
11. FREM - Matthew Taberner
12. WC - Callum Sinclair
13. COLL - Kyle Martin
14. ADEL - Kyle Hartigan
15. HAW - Jonathon Ceglar
16. SYD - Jake Lloyd
17. GWS - PASS
18. GC - PASS
19. MELB - Mitchell Clisby
20. PTA - Justin Hoskin
21. BRIS - Callum Bartlett
22. RICH - Sam Lonergan
23. CARL - Andrew Collins
24. NM - Ben Speight
25. FREM - Alex Howson
26. WC - Jamie Bennell
27. COLL - Sam Dwyer
28. HAW - Ciaran Kilkenny (INELIGIBLE)
29. SYD - Xavier Richards
30. GWS - PASS
31. GC - PASS
32. BRIS - PASS
33. RICH - Orren Stephenson (INELIGIBLE?)
34. NM - Cameron Richardson
35. COLL - Adam Oxley
36. ADEL - Jack Osborn
37. SYD - Dane Rampe
38. GWS - PASS
39. GC - PASS
40. RICH - Cadeyn Williams
41. COLL - Jack Frost
42. ADEL - Tim Klaosen
43. SYD - PASS
44. GWS - PASS
45. GC - PASS
46. FREM - Craig Moller (INELIGIBLE)
47. COLL - Ben Hudson
48. GC - PASS
49. COLL - Peter Yagmoor
50. SYD - Daniel Robinson
51. GWS - Jack Redfern
52. GC - PASS
53. COLL - Ben Richmond (ALSO LISTED IN LEFTOVER NAT PICKS)
54. GWS - Zachary Williams
55. GC - Andrew Boston
56. BRIS - Jordon Bourke
57. SYD - Brandon Jack
58. SYD - Sam Naismith
Can everyone please just quickly check this list and make sure that any re-selected players (e.g. Hudson, Yagmoor etc) aren't on your lists as I haven't checked them yet (I just went on from what I could remember).
Every player on a EXV's list in alphabetical order
* If you didnt take the time to add first player names to your post of final team list before the rookie draft, I had to add it in of the top of my head so if its wrong please let me know 8) or if anyone is missing but its of your final team list so shouldt be :)
Aaron Hall
Aaron Sandilands
Adam Cooney
Adam Schneider
Adam Tomlinson
Adam Treloar
Ahmed Saad
Aiden Corr
Alan Didak
Alex Fasolo
Alex Forster
Alex Johnson
Alex Rance
Alex Sexton
Alex Woodward
Allan Christensen
Amos Frank
Andrew Carrazzo
Andrew Embely
Andrew Gaff
Andrew Krakouer
Andrew Mackie
Andrew Swallow
Andrew Walker
Andy Otten
Angus Graham
Angus Monfries
Anthony Miles
Anthony Morabito
Ash McGrath
Ayce Cordy
Bachar Houli
Beau Waters
Beau Wilkes
Ben Cunnington
Ben Howlett
Ben Jacobs
Ben Kennedy
Ben McGlynn
Ben Mcevoy
Ben Reid
Bernie Vince
Billie Smedts
Billy Longer
Brad Crouch
Brad Dick
Brad Ebert
Brad Hill
Brad McKenzie
Brad Sewell
Bradley Hartman
Brandon Matera
Brant Colledge
Brendan Ellis
Brendan Goddard
Brendan Whitecross
Brent Goodes
Brent Guerra
Brent Moloney
Brent Renouf
Brent Stanton
Bret Thornton
Brett Deledio
Brett Harvey
Brett O'Hailpin
Brett O'Hanlon
Brian Lake
Broc McCauley
Brodie Grundy
Brodie Murdoch
Brodie Smith
Bryce Gibbs
C Heath
C Kilkenny
Cale Hooker
Cale Morton
Callan Ward
Cameron Eaderly
Cameron O'Shea
Cameron Pederson
Cameron Wood
Caolan Mooney
Chad Cornes
Chad Wingard
Chris Dawes
Chris Judd
Chris Knights
Chris Masten
Chris Mayne
Chris Newman
Chris Yarran
Christian Howard
Clancee Pearce
Clay Cameron
Clay Smith
Clint Jones
Colin Sylvia
Corey Enright
Corey Gault
Courtney Dempsey
Craig Moller
Curtley Hampton
Cyril Rioli
Dale Thomas
Dan Currie
Dan Nicholson
Dane Swan
Daniel Cross
Daniel Giansiracusa
Daniel Gorringe
Daniel Jackson
Daniel Kerr
Daniel Markworth
Daniel Menzel
Daniel Pearce
Daniel Rich
Daniel Wells
Danny Stanley
Darren Jolly
Darren Pfieffer
David Armitage
David Ellard
David Hale
David Hille
David Mundy
David Myers
David Rodan
David Swallow
David Zaharakis
Dayne Beams
Dayne Zorko
Dean Cox
Dean Kent
Dean Terlich
Dean Towers
Devon Smith
Dion Prestia
Dom Tyson
Dominic Barry
Dominic Cassisi
Drew Petrie
Dustin Martin
Dylan Buckley
Dylan Shiel
Dylan Van Unen
Dyson Heppell
Ed Curnow
Eddie Betts
Elliot Yeo
Elliott Kavanagh
Farren Ray
Garrick Ibbotson
Gary Ablett
Gary Rohan
Graham Johncock
Grant
Grant Birchall
Greg Broughton
Hamish Hartlett
Hamish McIntosh
Hanneberry
Harley Bennell
Harry O'Brien
Harry Taylor
Hayden Ballantyne
Hayden Crozier
Heath Grundy
Heath Hocking
Heath Scotland
Heath Shaw
Henry Schade
Ian Callinan
Isaac Smith
Ivan Maric
J Toumpas
Jack Darling
Jack Grimes
Jack Gunston
Jack Hombsch
Jack Neade
Jack Newnes
Jack Redden
Jack Riewoldt
Jack Steven
Jack Trengove
Jack Trengove
Jack Viney
Jack Watts
Jack Ziebell
Jackson McRae
Jackson Paine
Jackson Thurlow
Jaegar O.Meara
Jake Batchelor
Jake Carlisle
Jake Melksham
Jake Stringer
James Ashby
James Frawley
James Gwilt
James Kelly
James Podsiadly
James Sellar
James Stewart
Jared Brennan
Jared Petrenko
Jared Polec
Jarrad McVeigh
Jarred Redden
Jarred Waite
Jarrod Harbrow
Jarrod Witts
Jarryd Blair
Jarryd Roughead
Jason Porplyzia
Jason Tutt
Jason Winderlich
Jasper Pittard
Jay Lever
Jed Adcock
Jed Anderson
Jed Bews
Jed Lamb
Jeff Gartlett
Jeremy Cameron
Jeremy Howe
Jeremy Laidler
Jesse Hogan
Jesse Lonergan
Jimmy Bartel
Jobe Watson
Joe Daniher
Joel Corey
Joel Selwood
John Butcher
Jonathan Brown
Jonathan O'Rourke
Jonathon Giles
Jonathon Griffin
Jonathon Patton
Jordan Gysberts
Jordan Lewis
Jordan Murdoch
Jordan Roughead
Jordan Russell
Jorden Mackenzie
JoshCaddy
Josh Gibson
Josh Hill
Josh Kennedy
Josh Martin
Josh P. Kennedy
Josh Prudden
Josh Simpson
Josh Tynan
Joshua Bootsma
Jude Bolton
Justin Westhoff
K McIntosh
Kade Simpson
Kane Cornes
Kieran Harper
Kieran Jack
Koby Stevens
Kristian Jaksch
Kurt Tippett
Kyal Horsley
Kyle Hardingham
L Jong
Lachie Hunter
Lachie Plowman
Lachie Whitfield
Lachlan Hansen
Lance Franklin
Lee Spurr
Leigh Adams
Leigh Montagna
Lenny Hayes
Leroy Jetta
Liam Anthony
Liam Jones
Liam McBean
Liam Shiels
Liam Sumner
Luke Ball
Luke Breust
Luke Brown
Luke Dalhaus
Luke Hodge
Luke Lowden
Luke Power
Luke Shuey
Luke Tapscott
Luke Thompson
Marc Murphy
Marco Paparone
Mark Baguley
Mark Hutchings
Mark Jamar
Mark Lecras
Marty Clarke
Mason Wood
Matt Buntine
Matt Jones
Matt Lobbe
Matt Priddis
Matt Rosa
Matt Suckling
Matthew Arnot
Matthew Boyd
Matthew Broadbent
Matthew Jaensch
Matthew Kruezer
Matthew Leuenberger
Matthew McDonough
Matthew Pavlich
Matthew Shaw
Matthew Stokes
Matthew Wright
Max Bailey
Max Duffy
Max Gawn
Max Warren
Michael Barlow
Michael Firrito
Michael Hibbard
Michael Hurley
Michael Johnson
Michael Rischitelli
Michael Talia
Mitch Clark
Mitch Duncan
Mitch Morton
Mitch Robinson
Mitch Wallis
Mitchell Grigg
Murray Newman
Nat Fyfe
Nathan Bock
Nathan Foley
Nathan Grima
Nathan Hrovat
Nathan Jones
Nathan Van Berlo
Nathan Vardy
Nathan Wright
Niall McKeever
Nic Naitanui
Nicholas Joyce
Nicholas Joyce
Nick Dal Santo
Nick Duigan
Nick Graham
Nick Haynes
Nick Kommer
Nick Lower
Nick Malceski
Nick O'Brien
Nick Riewoldt
Nick Smith
Nick Suban
Nick Vlastuin
Oliver Wines
Orren Stephenson
Paddy Ryder
Patrick Dangerfield
Patrick Karnezis
Patrick Veszpremi
Paul Chapman
Paul Duffield
Pearce Hanley
Phil Davis
Quinten Lynch
Reece Conca
Rhyce Shaw
Rhys Palmer
Rhys Stanley
Richard Newell
Richard Tambling
Ricky Pettard
Robbie Gray
Robert Murphy
Robert Warnock
Robin Nahas
Rohan Bewick
Rory Atkins
Rory Laird
Rory Sloane
Rory Taggert
RyanBastinac
Ryan Griffen
Ryan O'Keffe
Sam Butler
Sam Darley
Sam Day
Sam Docherty
Sam Frost
Sam Gibson
Sam Gilbert
Sam Jacobs
Sam Kerridge
Sam Mayes
Sam Menegola
Sam Mitchell
Sam Reid (f)
Scott. D. Thompson
Scott Gumbleton
Scott Lycett
Scott McMahon
Scott Pendlebury
Scott Selwood
Scott Thompson
Sean Dempster
Sebastion Ross
Shane Edwards
Shane Kersten
Shane Mumford
Shane Savage
Shane Tuck
Shannon Hurn
Sharrod Wellingham
Shaun Burguoyne
Shaun Grigg
Shaun Higgins
Shaun Siggins
Simon Black
Simon Buckley
Spencer White
Steele Sidebottom
Stefan Martin
Stephen Coniglio
Stephen Hill
Stephen Milne
Steve Johnson
Steven Morris
Steven Salopek
Stewart Crameri
Tanner Smith
Taylor Adams
Taylor Garner
Taylor Hine
Taylor Walker
Tayte Pears (b)
Tendai Mzungu
Thomas Sheridan
Tim Broomhead
Tim Membrey
Tim Mohr
Tim O'Brien
Tim sumner
Toby Greene
Todd Banfield (Forward)
Todd Elton
Todd Goldstein
Tom Bellchambers (r)
Tom Campbell
Tom Clurey
Tom Hawkins
Tom Lee
Tom Liberatore
Tom Lynch
Tom Mitchell
Tom Rockliff
Tom Scully
Tommy Walsh
Tony Armstrong
Tory Dickson (f)
Travis Boak
Travis Cloke
Travis Varcoe (c/f)
Trent Cotchin
Trent McKenzie
Trent West
Troy Chaplin
Troy Menzel
Ty Vickery
Will Hoskin-Elliot
Will Minson
Will Sierakowski
Xavier Ellis
Zac Dawson
Zac Smith
Zach Clarke
Awesome work Pickers!
Great work Pickers :)
Awesome! Nails to pick Blease :) lol.
Hoping he slips to 6!!
No worries guys anything to get this rookie draft started haha, and a Cheers to Scrads for organising a few of us to help Holz
out :)
so we have a full dpp list?
Top stuff guys, makes it much easier to run the comp with such quality people in the comp. Let the picking beguin
Excellent work guys both of yas are champs.
Zip fanplanner is upto date
Quote from: Scrads on December 18, 2012, 09:48:33 PM
Quote from: whatlez on December 18, 2012, 09:36:47 PM
Initially this was an even trade:
Macedonia Receive:Kurt Tippett + National Draft Pick #35
Scotland Receive:Alex Fasolo + Sharrod Wellingham
Then with Tippett's suspension it became in my favour slightly
Then with Tippett's suspension and Welly moved to Mid/Fwd.
I vote this, the trade of the year :D
What about my Gram for Foley ? :P
I'm guessing you did that with the Greek side? No Foley = no team. Karma for trading him i say :P
So who has mids they're willing to trade?
I got Big Ivan, Reilly, Grima, and all of my forwards up for grabs
Quote from: whatlez on December 20, 2012, 01:50:24 PM
So who has mids they're willing to trade?
I got Big Ivan, Reilly, Grima, and all of my forwards up for grabs
We have mids >:D
And to kick off the 3rd trade period...
Scrads trades:
Nathan Vardy
Jake Stringer
Jack Hombsch
Hawka trades:
Matthew Leuenberger
Jed Anderson
Luke Lowden
Hawka to confirm
Lol seriously
Confirmed
Quote from: Hawka on January 07, 2013, 02:11:51 AM
Confirmed
Cheers mate :)
Leuy now slots into the ruck and Ryder moves into my forward line :)
Quote from: Ziplock on January 07, 2013, 02:28:49 AM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on January 07, 2013, 02:10:07 AM
Lol seriously
nah, it's decent enough.
vardy will be a 90 av ruck once hmac retires and thats when hawka will need a premo ruck, when his youngsters start developing in a few years. Rate vardy very ver very highly
The might be fringe players at the bashers but up for trade are
Rhyce Shaw
Cameron Guthrie
Jackson Allen
Jed Bews
Sam Gibson
Matthew Rosa
Brent Renouf
Jarryd Blair
Chris Knights
Podsiadlly
Tom Lynch (adelaide)
Ben Sinclair
Jamie Cripps
Im looking for a starting defender or mid, so can do 2 for 2 trades or 3 for 3 depending on which players are used in the trade
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on January 07, 2013, 02:35:32 AM
The might be fringe players at the bashers but up for trade are
Rhyce Shaw
Cameron Guthrie
Jackson Allen
Jed Bews
Sam Gibson
Matthew Rosa
Brent Renouf
Jarryd Blair
Chris Knights
Podsiadlly
Tom Lynch (adelaide)
Ben Sinclair
Jamie Cripps
Im looking for a starting defender or mid, so can do 2 for 2 trades or 3 for 3 depending on which players are used in the trade
Reilly for Blair?
Quote from: whatlez on January 07, 2013, 02:35:28 PM
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on January 07, 2013, 02:35:32 AM
The might be fringe players at the bashers but up for trade are
Rhyce Shaw
Cameron Guthrie
Jackson Allen
Jed Bews
Sam Gibson
Matthew Rosa
Brent Renouf
Jarryd Blair
Chris Knights
Podsiadlly
Tom Lynch (adelaide)
Ben Sinclair
Jamie Cripps
Im looking for a starting defender or mid, so can do 2 for 2 trades or 3 for 3 depending on which players are used in the trade
Reilly for Blair?
29 year old <79av def for a 22 yr old fwd who ave 79 last year!
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on January 07, 2013, 02:41:01 PM
Quote from: whatlez on January 07, 2013, 02:35:28 PM
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on January 07, 2013, 02:35:32 AM
The might be fringe players at the bashers but up for trade are
Rhyce Shaw
Cameron Guthrie
Jackson Allen
Jed Bews
Sam Gibson
Matthew Rosa
Brent Renouf
Jarryd Blair
Chris Knights
Podsiadlly
Tom Lynch (adelaide)
Ben Sinclair
Jamie Cripps
Im looking for a starting defender or mid, so can do 2 for 2 trades or 3 for 3 depending on which players are used in the trade
Reilly for Blair?
29 year old <79av def for a 22 yr old fwd who ave 79 last year!
Defenders are rare. Forwards are easy to find ;)
Quote from: whatlez on January 07, 2013, 02:43:55 PM
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on January 07, 2013, 02:41:01 PM
Quote from: whatlez on January 07, 2013, 02:35:28 PM
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on January 07, 2013, 02:35:32 AM
The might be fringe players at the bashers but up for trade are
Rhyce Shaw
Cameron Guthrie
Jackson Allen
Jed Bews
Sam Gibson
Matthew Rosa
Brent Renouf
Jarryd Blair
Chris Knights
Podsiadlly
Tom Lynch (adelaide)
Ben Sinclair
Jamie Cripps
Im looking for a starting defender or mid, so can do 2 for 2 trades or 3 for 3 depending on which players are used in the trade
Reilly for Blair?
29 year old <79av def for a 22 yr old fwd who ave 79 last year!
Defenders are rare. Forwards are easy to find ;)
i have gun backs and im struggling for forwards.
The Stallions and the Eagles have come to a trade deal :)
Stallions Give: Kade Simpson, Sam Fisher & Liam Anthony
FOR
Eagles Give: Jaeger O'Meara, Craig Moller & Cam Eardley
Reason: I wanted youth, holz had youth. Holz wanted some experience, I had some experience.
Holz to confirm.
Whoah!!!!!
Quote from: Torpedo10 on January 07, 2013, 02:56:12 PM
The Stallions and the Eagles have come to a trade deal :)
Stallions Give: Kade Simpson, Sam Fisher & Liam Anthony
FOR
Eagles Give: Jaeger O'Meara, Craig Moller & Cam Eardley
Reason: I wanted youth, holz had youth. Holz wanted some experience, I had some experience.
Holz to confirm.
Confirmed, im taking a huge gamble on athony. Super injury prone and is not even a lock in the 22. scored 107 with 27 touches and 2 goals in round 7 and got dropped. When he plays though he is a ball magnet, his disposal is bad so will never get tagged.
Simpson is old but he shoudl be solid bench cover. Fisher even older but again is just cover.
Omeara is a huge loss everyone knows how much i rate him. Moller i conisder better than grundy he will just take too long to get going for me.
Sorry holz while i dont wanna be an arse coz youse let thru the fyfe deal, you killed torps there
O meara while highly rated has not shown dt potential. On the other hand its the same story as toumpas so yeah ill say omeara for simpson is fair
Moller is rookie listed ruckman! Fisher is a 30 year old spud back so you slightly win there
But Eaderly for Anthony! Anthony is a capable 95av mid eadey is well a dud
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on January 07, 2013, 03:02:34 PM
Sorry holz while i dont wanna be an arse coz youse let thru the fyfe deal, you killed torps there
O meara while highly rated has not shown dt potential. On the other hand its the same story as toumpas so yeah ill say omeara for simpson is fair
Moller is rookie listed ruckman! Fisher is a 30 year old spud back so you slightly win there
But Eaderly for Anthony! Anthony is a capable 95av mid eadey is well a dud
ok I will put this blunty, Omeara i rate as the best rookie this year and i value him above toumpas easy. Athony while 97 average can get dropped at any time as scott doesnt like him, his disposal is bad which is good for DT it also means a few bad games and he is gone. 18 games is by far his best season too.
People were saying Omeara was better than athony.
Now onto Moller not sure how much you know about him, he woudl have been a top pick possibly even 1 if went in the draft very very highly rated. better than grundy in my opinion and he went at pick 6. To say he is merely a rookie ruck is a joke.
He is worth tons more than fisher a 74 average 30-31 year old.
holz mentioned to me that he was going to trade omeara for anthony, and I told him it was a really stupid move.
this more or less evens it up.
Lol this is the worst trade I have ever seen. O'Meara is overrated and hasn't played that Fyfe trade is 10x better than this shower.
If this trade goes through then Torp should be sacked. Or sack me.
Quote from: whatlez on January 07, 2013, 03:47:50 PM
Lol this is the worst trade I have ever seen. O'Meara is overrated and hasn't played that Fyfe trade is 10x better than this shower.
If this trade goes through then Torp should be sacked. Or sack me.
Congrat on Adamant the new coach of the Savagae Sons
Quote from: Holzman on January 07, 2013, 03:50:35 PM
Quote from: whatlez on January 07, 2013, 03:47:50 PM
Lol this is the worst trade I have ever seen. O'Meara is overrated and hasn't played that Fyfe trade is 10x better than this shower.
If this trade goes through then Torp should be sacked. Or sack me.
Congrat on Adamant the new coach of the Savagae Sons
Congratulations Ad! :P
Quote from: Torpedo10 on January 07, 2013, 03:53:08 PM
Quote from: Holzman on January 07, 2013, 03:50:35 PM
Quote from: whatlez on January 07, 2013, 03:47:50 PM
Lol this is the worst trade I have ever seen. O'Meara is overrated and hasn't played that Fyfe trade is 10x better than this shower.
If this trade goes through then Torp should be sacked. Or sack me.
Congrat on Adamant the new coach of the Savagae Sons
Congratulations Ad! :P
Lol nah, but Fark doesn't want to say anything because of that Fyfe trade so I'll speak out.
O'Meara will struggle this year and will ave 75-80 at best and I doubt. He also get Moller who won't play for years and Freo have 3 ruckman ahead of him and some spud who I don't know for super consistent Simpdon who will ave 90ish, fisher is old, but will ave at least 70 or maybe more with Goddard gone and Anthony if fit and plays score ave 100+
So let's say 90 + 90 + 70 for 75-80 + 0 + 0
Oh boy what an even trade.
Quote from: whatlez on January 07, 2013, 03:57:14 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on January 07, 2013, 03:53:08 PM
Quote from: Holzman on January 07, 2013, 03:50:35 PM
Quote from: whatlez on January 07, 2013, 03:47:50 PM
Lol this is the worst trade I have ever seen. O'Meara is overrated and hasn't played that Fyfe trade is 10x better than this shower.
If this trade goes through then Torp should be sacked. Or sack me.
Congrat on Adamant the new coach of the Savagae Sons
Congratulations Ad! :P
Lol nah, but Fark doesn't want to say anything because of that Fyfe trade so I'll speak out.
O'Meara will struggle this year and will ave 75-80 at best and I doubt. He also get Moller who won't play for years and Freo have 3 ruckman ahead of him and some spud who I don't know for super consistent Simpdon who will ave 90ish, fisher is old, but will ave at least 70 or maybe more with Goddard gone and Anthony if fit and plays score ave 100+
So let's say 90 + 90 + 70 for 75-80 + 0 + 0
Oh boy what an even trade.
Nah disagree lez torps has traded for future and omearea will be 90av mid min in a few years and anthony is a 95av mid, i just disagree with moller...i dont rate moller! Not gonna be a great dt prospect tbh omearea for simpson is about fair, but anthomy and fisher for a 75-80 av ruck and a future delistee to even out omearea simpson trade is a bit out of whack. Look its definately in favour of holz but oh well its a pass
Guess bashers have already destroyed stallions with dangerfield for priddis and 'stanley' trade so now its serbians chance
Quote from: whatlez on January 07, 2013, 03:57:14 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on January 07, 2013, 03:53:08 PM
Quote from: Holzman on January 07, 2013, 03:50:35 PM
Quote from: whatlez on January 07, 2013, 03:47:50 PM
Lol this is the worst trade I have ever seen. O'Meara is overrated and hasn't played that Fyfe trade is 10x better than this shower.
If this trade goes through then Torp should be sacked. Or sack me.
Congrat on Adamant the new coach of the Savagae Sons
Congratulations Ad! :P
Lol nah, but Fark doesn't want to say anything because of that Fyfe trade so I'll speak out.
O'Meara will struggle this year and will ave 75-80 at best and I doubt. He also get Moller who won't play for years and Freo have 3 ruckman ahead of him and some spud who I don't know for super consistent Simpdon who will ave 90ish, fisher is old, but will ave at least 70 or maybe more with Goddard gone and Anthony if fit and plays score ave 100+
So let's say 90 + 90 + 70 for 75-80 + 0 + 0
Oh boy what an even trade.
Read the reason for the trade whatlez, I want youth. Moller will be the No.1 ruck when Sandi retires and O'meara will average 100 in 2 seasons.
Quote from: whatlez on January 07, 2013, 03:57:14 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on January 07, 2013, 03:53:08 PM
Quote from: Holzman on January 07, 2013, 03:50:35 PM
Quote from: whatlez on January 07, 2013, 03:47:50 PM
Lol this is the worst trade I have ever seen. O'Meara is overrated and hasn't played that Fyfe trade is 10x better than this shower.
If this trade goes through then Torp should be sacked. Or sack me.
Congrat on Adamant the new coach of the Savagae Sons
Congratulations Ad! :P
Lol nah, but Fark doesn't want to say anything because of that Fyfe trade so I'll speak out.
O'Meara will struggle this year and will ave 75-80 at best and I doubt. He also get Moller who won't play for years and Freo have 3 ruckman ahead of him and some spud who I don't know for super consistent Simpdon who will ave 90ish, fisher is old, but will ave at least 70 or maybe more with Goddard gone and Anthony if fit and plays score ave 100+
So let's say 90 + 90 + 70 for 75-80 + 0 + 0
Oh boy what an even trade.
happy to put it to a vote but that argument is ridicolous. Omeara is equivalent to N1 (I would argue better but whatever) moller could have gone close to pick 1. Do some research. Thats 2 top draft picks for a injury plagued guy who the coach likes. A 29 year old mid whos average has been slipping the last 3 years and a 30-31 year old back who averaged low 70s .
In a few years I will have athony left (if he isnt injured or dropped) and torp wil have the best young ruck from 2012 (not grundy) and the best rookie from 2012.
Quote from: Torpedo10 on January 07, 2013, 02:56:12 PM
The Stallions and the Eagles have come to a trade deal :)
Stallions Give: Kade Simpson, Sam Fisher & Liam Anthony
FOR
Eagles Give: Jaeger O'Meara, Craig Moller & Cam Eardley
Reason: I wanted youth, holz had youth. Holz wanted some experience, I had some experience.
Holz to confirm.
Quote from: whatlez on January 07, 2013, 03:47:50 PM
Lol this is the worst trade I have ever seen. O'Meara is overrated and hasn't played that Fyfe trade is 10x better than this shower.
If this trade goes through then Torp should be sacked. Or sack me.
let me break this down for you
Kade Simpson- 29 year old, 90 average mid.
Fisher- 70 average 31 year old back
Anthony- 97 average 26 year old mid
for
Omeara- first mini draft pick in 2012, essentially making him pick 1 of 2013
Moller- highly rated young ruck prospect, wont get significant game time until sandilands retires or griffin changes clubs though
eardley- pretty much thrown in to make up the numbers
this is completely different from the fyfe trade- fyfe is firstly, a substantially better player and DTer than any of these blokes, and secondly is significantly younger than any of these guys as well, with a longer shelf life. Simpson and fisher are both sliding in scores noticeably, and anthony, due to his poor disposals underpressure, is in and out of the roos 22.
omeara as aessentially a no.1 draft pick, is as close to assured to become a DT gun- Im on holidays atm, so I dont have my stats book on me, but pretty much every no.1 pick ends up being dt relevant- the only oldish exceptions to this are currently watts and kreuzer, both of whom were drafted as kpp not mids.
I dont get how people who didnt reject the fyfe trade could be complaining about this- it's 2 highly promising youngsters+ a spud for 2 old, declining quasipremiums at best, + one quasipremium in his prime, who doesn't have a secured spot in his teams 22.
Compare that to the fyfe trade, where it was one young gun, who is already a quasipremium, and has heaps of improvement left, for a promising young mid, a high draft pick back (but average dter), + a bunch of spuds.
Yeah whatever I lost interest. Let it through. At least like Fark said with all the trade rapes Torp has had, he will be on the bottom
And Holz, Moller was never going anywhere near 1.
Quote from: Ziplock on January 07, 2013, 04:07:32 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on January 07, 2013, 02:56:12 PM
The Stallions and the Eagles have come to a trade deal :)
Stallions Give: Kade Simpson, Sam Fisher & Liam Anthony
FOR
Eagles Give: Jaeger O'Meara, Craig Moller & Cam Eardley
Reason: I wanted youth, holz had youth. Holz wanted some experience, I had some experience.
Holz to confirm.
Quote from: whatlez on January 07, 2013, 03:47:50 PM
Lol this is the worst trade I have ever seen. O'Meara is overrated and hasn't played that Fyfe trade is 10x better than this shower.
If this trade goes through then Torp should be sacked. Or sack me.
let me break this down for you
Kade Simpson- 29 year old, 90 average mid.
Fisher- 70 average 31 year old back
Anthony- 97 average 26 year old mid
for
Omeara- first mini draft pick in 2012, essentially making him pick 1 of 2013
Moller- highly rated young ruck prospect, wont get significant game time until sandilands retires or griffin changes clubs though
eardley- pretty much thrown in to make up the numbers
this is completely different from the fyfe trade- fyfe is firstly, a substantially better player and DTer than any of these blokes, and secondly is significantly younger than any of these guys as well, with a longer shelf life. Simpson and fisher are both sliding in scores noticeably, and anthony, due to his poor disposals underpressure, is in and out of the roos 22.
omeara as aessentially a no.1 draft pick, is as close to assured to become a DT gun- Im on holidays atm, so I dont have my stats book on me, but pretty much every no.1 pick ends up being dt relevant- the only oldish exceptions to this are currently watts and kreuzer, both of whom were drafted as kpp not mids.
I dont get how people who didnt reject the fyfe trade could be complaining about this- it's 2 highly promising youngsters+ a spud for 2 old, declining quasipremiums at best, + one quasipremium in his prime, who doesn't have a secured spot in his teams 22.
Compare that to the fyfe trade, where it was one young gun, who is already a quasipremium, and has heaps of improvement left, for a promising young mid, a high draft pick back (but average dter), + a bunch of spuds.
i think im losing on the deal for the reasons above, but we all know i want to beat the bashers and this helps me do that.
holz has completely raped his youth and future.
Quote from: Ziplock on January 07, 2013, 04:11:07 PM
holz has completely raped his youth and future.
yeah i had soo much promise, will right a list of the youth i have lost later. I coudl have been even stronger in a few years.
Quote from: whatlez on January 07, 2013, 04:09:33 PM
Yeah whatever I lost interest. Let it through. At least like Fark said with all the trade rapes Torp has had, he will be on the bottom
And Holz, Moller was never going anywhere near 1.
I'll still beat you during the H&A season. ::)
Woah... so Holz gets a 97 starting mid and a 95 starting mid (taking out simpson's injury affected game) and a solid D5 for 2 gun youngsters and a 2011 rookie draftee who hasnt played a game yet...
yes they are older but Anthony is about to hit DT prime and Simpson has 2-3 years left in him
come on guys seriously
Quote from: Torpedo10 on January 07, 2013, 04:28:47 PM
Quote from: whatlez on January 07, 2013, 04:09:33 PM
Yeah whatever I lost interest. Let it through. At least like Fark said with all the trade rapes Torp has had, he will be on the bottom
And Holz, Moller was never going anywhere near 1.
I'll still beat you during the H&A season. ::)
Your humor is great.
I think holz has done well with moller similar to us with smith
He has played up moller so much that people start thinking of him as a champion ruck, honestly hes a mature age ruck with dreads who woulda gone in the 20-30s in nat draft
Brodie was a 65av defender if that who scored consistent 60s-80s. He doesnt have a high ceiling and lets be honest, tom bugg ave more than brodie. We talked him up so much that brodie was traded for knights + sam gibson + heath and on traded for heath shaw hahaha
Talk a player up you can turn a ben rutten into a brendan goddard
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on January 07, 2013, 05:34:55 PM
He has played up moller so much that people start thinking of him as a champion ruck, honestly hes a mature age ruck with dreads who woulda gone in the 20-30s in nat draft
How is a guy who turned 18 in August mature age fark? Seriously you don't even know who you are talking about ::)
Quote from: Ricochet on January 07, 2013, 04:30:24 PM
Woah... so Holz gets a 97 starting mid and a 95 starting mid (taking out simpson's injury affected game) and a solid D5 for 2 gun youngsters and a 2011 rookie draftee who hasnt played a game yet...
yes they are older but Anthony is about to hit DT prime and Simpson has 2-3 years left in him
come on guys seriously
anthony is in his DT prime- he might just scrape 100, if he's lucky... but his decisions under pressure are attrocious, he'll be in and out of the squad unless he can fix that.
As for simpson, I really dont see him averaging much over 90 this season. And, ftr, he's not even fielded in holz's side.
and fark. Lol. From what I hear of moller, he probably would have been a first round selection if he'd gone in the nat. draft. Holz said he's willing to take this to a vote- honestly, I dont think it should... a precedent has already been set this year to let some ridiculous trades go through, and I dont see why this should change considering that this trade is far more fair than at least 2 of the trades the bashers have made.
Quote from: Ziplock on January 07, 2013, 06:04:21 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 07, 2013, 04:30:24 PM
Woah... so Holz gets a 97 starting mid and a 95 starting mid (taking out simpson's injury affected game) and a solid D5 for 2 gun youngsters and a 2011 rookie draftee who hasnt played a game yet...
yes they are older but Anthony is about to hit DT prime and Simpson has 2-3 years left in him
come on guys seriously
anthony is in his DT prime- he might just scrape 100, if he's lucky... but his decisions under pressure are attrocious, he'll be in and out of the squad unless he can fix that.
As for simpson, I really dont see him averaging much over 90 this season. And, ftr, he's not even fielded in holz's side.
and fark. Lol. From what I hear of moller, he probably would have been a first round selection if he'd gone in the nat. draft. Holz said he's willing to take this to a vote- honestly, I dont think it should... a precedent has already been set this year to let some ridiculous trades go through, and I dont see why this should change considering that this trade is far more fair than at least 2 of the trades the bashers have made.
No vote. Holz wins but meh doesnt anhilate him or anything
oh yeah,holz wins imo as well, but its definitately not the domination lez was saying.
And you complain about only having a couple of teams as competition next yr Holz ::) and then you go flowering rape Torp......
atleast the bashers gave quite a few decent young players and only really got Fyfe, your giving flower all except O'Meara and pick up 2 90+ mids and 70+ fwd worst trade of the competition IMO
Quote from: picker_man on January 07, 2013, 06:29:16 PM
And you complain about only having a couple of teams as competition next yr Holz ::) and then you go flowering rape Torp......
atleast the bashers gave quite a few decent young players and only really got Fyfe, your giving flower all except O'Meara and pick up 2 90+ mids and 70+ fwd worst trade of the competition IMO
I will give all 3 for fyfe ina second.
the big difference i see is i got 1 guy who is youngish but knowehere near fyfe level and 2 guys who will retire soon.
I would much prefer a young gun, to a middle aged good player and 2 declining old guys.
Bashers if your interested I will give all 3 for Fyfe.
Quote from: picker_man on January 07, 2013, 06:29:16 PM
And you complain about only having a couple of teams as competition next yr Holz ::) and then you go flowering rape Torp......
atleast the bashers gave quite a few decent young players and only really got Fyfe, your giving flower all except O'Meara and pick up 2 90+ mids and 70+ fwd worst trade of the competition IMO
are you joking? the bashers gave one potentially good dter in toumpas. Everything else they gave was just useless crap- vlaustin has alright JS, but pathetic scoring ability. And Fyfe, as a player averaging over 100 by the time he was 20, is immensely more valuable than players like fisher, who'll probably retire at the end of his contract, and simpson, who's a mediocre declining midfielder. Eve anthony barely scrapes into his 22.
In this years draft, there were 3 good rucks- daniher, grundy, moller.
Moller would have gone top 20 in the national draft imo.
ftr, I was chasing omeara myself, and I'm annoyed I couldn't get him.... that being said, I'm still supporting this trade.
Quote from: Holzman on January 07, 2013, 06:31:27 PM
Quote from: picker_man on January 07, 2013, 06:29:16 PM
And you complain about only having a couple of teams as competition next yr Holz ::) and then you go flowering rape Torp......
atleast the bashers gave quite a few decent young players and only really got Fyfe, your giving flower all except O'Meara and pick up 2 90+ mids and 70+ fwd worst trade of the competition IMO
I will give all 3 for fyfe ina second.
yeah im sure you really would, dont talk smack you know Anthony is a gun in his prime.
Lol you wanting to decline the last trade but support this one makes you look priety funny to me Zip but yeah wateva i aint argueing no point.
anthony's never averaged even 100, and he plays on average just 12 games per year, I don't know how you can classify him as a gun.
Quote from: Ziplock on January 07, 2013, 06:42:38 PM
ftr, I was chasing omeara myself, and I'm annoyed I couldn't get him.... that being said, I'm still supporting this trade.
Some rate omeara over toumpas others rate toumpas over oneara so why so heavily try and decline our trade but approve this in a heartbeat
What happened to mr "has no proven dt scoring"
O meara is a rookie just like toumpas what makes him different. You always laugg and joke at the shower i say but maybe look in the mirror aye big fella
Fight fight fight fight
Quote from: picker_man on January 07, 2013, 06:52:11 PM
Quote from: Holzman on January 07, 2013, 06:31:27 PM
Quote from: picker_man on January 07, 2013, 06:29:16 PM
And you complain about only having a couple of teams as competition next yr Holz ::) and then you go flowering rape Torp......
atleast the bashers gave quite a few decent young players and only really got Fyfe, your giving flower all except O'Meara and pick up 2 90+ mids and 70+ fwd worst trade of the competition IMO
I will give all 3 for fyfe ina second.
yeah im sure you really would, dont talk smack you know Anthony is a gun in his prime.
Lol you wanting to decline the last trade but support this one makes you look priety funny to me Zip but yeah wateva i aint argueing no point.
Quote from: Holzman on Today at 06:59:40 PM
WOuld you trade the 3 guys i picked up for Fyfe im thinking
Fyfe + Knights + Spud + Spud
for
Pearce + Athony + Simpson + Fisher
Reply:Look its a fair deal but fyfe is an onfield starter, pearce, anthonu, simpson and fisher would all be bench players
good choice by FARK he knows what he is talking about Fyfe is a gun.
Quote from: Holzman on January 07, 2013, 07:08:58 PM
Quote from: picker_man on January 07, 2013, 06:52:11 PM
Quote from: Holzman on January 07, 2013, 06:31:27 PM
Quote from: picker_man on January 07, 2013, 06:29:16 PM
And you complain about only having a couple of teams as competition next yr Holz ::) and then you go flowering rape Torp......
atleast the bashers gave quite a few decent young players and only really got Fyfe, your giving flower all except O'Meara and pick up 2 90+ mids and 70+ fwd worst trade of the competition IMO
I will give all 3 for fyfe ina second.
yeah im sure you really would, dont talk smack you know Anthony is a gun in his prime.
Lol you wanting to decline the last trade but support this one makes you look priety funny to me Zip but yeah wateva i aint argueing no point.
Quote from: Holzman on Today at 06:59:40 PM
WOuld you trade the 3 guys i picked up for Fyfe im thinking
Fyfe + Knights + Spud + Spud
for
Pearce + Athony + Simpson + Fisher
Reply:
Look its a fair deal but fyfe is an onfield starter, pearce, anthonu, simpson and fisher would all be bench players
good choice by FARK he knows what he is talking about Fyfe is a gun.
Well why trade away our 3rd best mid for 3 bench mids and a defence bench when we already have a strong mid and def bench. You win games by onfield points not bench points
he's just demonstrating that, despite what pickers said, that he would trade them all for fyfe :S
and he's also demonstrating that the fyfe trade was clearly more of a rapeage than the trade he's done now.
and ftr fark, fisher and anthony would both probably make your side... simpson might as well, now fyfe is gone.
Quote from: picker_man on January 07, 2013, 06:29:16 PM
And you complain about only having a couple of teams as competition next yr Holz ::) and then you go flowering rape Torp......
I like this. Holz complains about the comp not being fair, but single handly eliminates one team from the competition.
Quote from: Ziplock on January 07, 2013, 07:15:57 PM
he's just demonstrating that, despite what pickers said, that he would trade them all for fyfe :S
and he's also demonstrating that the fyfe trade was clearly more of a rapeage than the trade he's done now.
and ftr fark, fisher and anthony would both probably make your side... simpson might as well, now fyfe is gone.
Pearce + Nicholson maybe even Terlich all beat fisher
Carrazo ave 99 unsubbed and as first bench Gibson ave 97 unsubbed so Simpson and anthony would be second and 3rd mid reserve
So it's
O'Meara = Simpson + Fisher + Anthony
And
Whitfield = Barlow.
Lol.
Quote from: CrowsFan on January 07, 2013, 07:08:05 PM
Fight fight fight fight
If only I still had my popcorn :(.
Quote from: whatlez on January 07, 2013, 07:18:10 PM
Quote from: picker_man on January 07, 2013, 06:29:16 PM
And you complain about only having a couple of teams as competition next yr Holz ::) and then you go flowering rape Torp......
I like this. Holz complains about the comp not being fair, but single handly eliminates one team from the competition.
Nah shower excuse guys if any if us were running the comp we would have done the same as holz so cant go round saying that
Yeah true. I'm more concerned on Torp's team. He was already close to a bottom team and now pretty much takes the spoon with him. I don't mind if it goes through, cause that means a bye round during the season.
Okay move on aye
I can package up a mix of Matt Priddis, Sam Gibson, Matt Rosa, Jarryd Blair, Chris Knights fir a 100+ mid who is 27 yrs old or younger
Anyone keen
Lol holz moller at number one you reckon? The experts rated him around a second round pick can't remember where but I read that when researching him months ago. He is nowhere near as good as Grundy, never will be.
Going on previous trades this trade has to pass. Though sucks to be torp have fighting with the dutch for the spoon for the next three years. There needs to be something done to stop people going the youth/old route in all xv comps it takes all realism out of it.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on January 07, 2013, 07:45:28 PM
Lol holz moller at number one you reckon? The experts rated him around a second round pick can't remember where but I read that when researching him months ago. He is nowhere near as good as Grundy, never will be.
Going on previous trades this trade has to pass. Though sucks to be torp have fighting with the dutch for the spoon for the next three years. There needs to be something done to stop people going the youth/old route in all xv comps it takes all realism out of it.
It is sad and he didn't even get that much youth.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on January 07, 2013, 07:45:28 PM
Lol holz moller at number one you reckon? The experts rated him around a second round pick can't remember where but I read that when researching him months ago. He is nowhere near as good as Grundy, never will be.
Going on previous trades this trade has to pass. Though sucks to be torp have fighting with the dutch for the spoon for the next three years. There needs to be something done to stop people going the youth/old route in all xv comps it takes all realism out of it.
Its prolly to late :-\ this comp is already screwed for atleast 3 years :( haha
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on January 07, 2013, 07:45:28 PM
Lol holz moller at number one you reckon? The experts rated him around a second round pick can't remember where but I read that when researching him months ago. He is nowhere near as good as Grundy, never will be.
Going on previous trades this trade has to pass. Though sucks to be torp have fighting with the dutch for the spoon for the next three years. There needs to be something done to stop people going the youth/old route in all xv comps it takes all realism out of it.
yeah i read the article incorectly, I still think he would be a first round pick. Have seen him abit in action and he can play.
The only way to do it woudl be to have an age cap. and even than teams could just get around it by getting a few old spuds. The difference really is young teams need a few old bodies to stop the kids getting hurt, in fantasy you dont need that.
Really though its basically comparing Gellong to GWS.
I do have quite a few old players but i wouldnt really say i have gone down the old route at all.
Gibbs, Pendles, Lids, Barlow, Anthony, Goldy, Cloke
thats half my starting sqaud at around 25-26 or under.
than guys like shaw adcock lecras arent that much older.
I can see why people would want to cut lose anyone over 28 though if your going youth. The problem im seeing is that people are going way to young. Im going young in the worlds and im trading for guys in the 20-24 range. I have heard people even say a 25-26 year old player is too old for them. A 26 year old player is too old for no team.
Quote from: Holzman on January 07, 2013, 08:18:48 PM
I can see why people would want to cut lose anyone over 28 though if your going youth. The problem im seeing is that people are going way to young. Im going young in the worlds and im trading for guys in the 20-24 range. I have heard people even say a 25-26 year old player is too old for them. A 26 year old player is too old for no team.
Talking about worlds and the teams going young there, I find it very funny because the average age of my entire squad is just 22.02, yet I was one of, if not the, strongest teams going round last year!
We have Carrazzo, R.Shaw, Pods, Hmac, Pav
Not to mention half our midfield all being 27
Its not a case of having old vs youth its a case of wether you have spud oldies like pods abd shaw or good oldies like pav
Quote from: CrowsFan on January 07, 2013, 08:25:59 PM
Quote from: Holzman on January 07, 2013, 08:18:48 PM
I can see why people would want to cut lose anyone over 28 though if your going youth. The problem im seeing is that people are going way to young. Im going young in the worlds and im trading for guys in the 20-24 range. I have heard people even say a 25-26 year old player is too old for them. A 26 year old player is too old for no team.
Talking about worlds and the teams going young there, I find it very funny because the average age of my entire squad is just 22.02, yet I was one of, if not the, strongest teams going round last year!
When you get gifted JPK and cotchin than you would expect that :)
Quote from: Holzman on January 07, 2013, 08:18:48 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on January 07, 2013, 07:45:28 PM
Lol holz moller at number one you reckon? The experts rated him around a second round pick can't remember where but I read that when researching him months ago. He is nowhere near as good as Grundy, never will be.
Going on previous trades this trade has to pass. Though sucks to be torp have fighting with the dutch for the spoon for the next three years. There needs to be something done to stop people going the youth/old route in all xv comps it takes all realism out of it.
yeah i read the article incorectly, I still think he would be a first round pick. Have seen him abit in action and he can play.
The only way to do it woudl be to have an age cap. and even than teams could just get around it by getting a few old spuds. The difference really is young teams need a few old bodies to stop the kids getting hurt, in fantasy you dont need that.
Really though its basically comparing Gellong to GWS.
I do have quite a few old players but i wouldnt really say i have gone down the old route at all.
Gibbs, Pendles, Lids, Barlow, Anthony, Goldy, Cloke
thats half my starting sqaud at around 25-26 or under.
than guys like shaw adcock lecras arent that much older.
I can see why people would want to cut lose anyone over 28 though if your going youth. The problem im seeing is that people are going way to young. Im going young in the worlds and im trading for guys in the 20-24 range. I have heard people even say a 25-26 year old player is too old for them. A 26 year old player is too old for no team.
As you pointed out your team is filled with guys around the age of 26, so how is it going to help someone going young to get in a 26yr old player when that guy will be 30 and useless by the time your team stops winning
My Euros team is youthful but I.much rather bring in 21-25yos than an unproven 18yo.
Quote from: Holzman on January 07, 2013, 08:36:48 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on January 07, 2013, 08:25:59 PM
Quote from: Holzman on January 07, 2013, 08:18:48 PM
I can see why people would want to cut lose anyone over 28 though if your going youth. The problem im seeing is that people are going way to young. Im going young in the worlds and im trading for guys in the 20-24 range. I have heard people even say a 25-26 year old player is too old for them. A 26 year old player is too old for no team.
Talking about worlds and the teams going young there, I find it very funny because the average age of my entire squad is just 22.02, yet I was one of, if not the, strongest teams going round last year!
When you get gifted JPK and cotchin than you would expect that :)
That was cape town, not me ;)
Quote from: Holzman on January 07, 2013, 08:18:48 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on January 07, 2013, 07:45:28 PM
Lol holz moller at number one you reckon? The experts rated him around a second round pick can't remember where but I read that when researching him months ago. He is nowhere near as good as Grundy, never will be.
Going on previous trades this trade has to pass. Though sucks to be torp have fighting with the dutch for the spoon for the next three years. There needs to be something done to stop people going the youth/old route in all xv comps it takes all realism out of it.
yeah i read the article incorectly, I still think he would be a first round pick. Have seen him abit in action and he can play.
The only way to do it woudl be to have an age cap. and even than teams could just get around it by getting a few old spuds. The difference really is young teams need a few old bodies to stop the kids getting hurt, in fantasy you dont need that.
Really though its basically comparing Gellong to GWS.
I do have quite a few old players but i wouldnt really say i have gone down the old route at all.
Gibbs, Pendles, Lids, Barlow, Anthony, Goldy, Cloke
thats half my starting sqaud at around 25-26 or under.
than guys like shaw adcock lecras arent that much older.
I can see why people would want to cut lose anyone over 28 though if your going youth. The problem im seeing is that people are going way to young. Im going young in the worlds and im trading for guys in the 20-24 range. I have heard people even say a 25-26 year old player is too old for them. A 26 year old player is too old for no team.
Best way to do it would probably be to have a minimum points cap
too complex, it prevents people from trading for bargains etc.
just have a trade rejection committee
Quote from: Ziplock on January 07, 2013, 10:17:17 PM
too complex, it prevents people from trading for bargains etc.
just have a trade rejection committee
As long as your not on that committee
First thing I want to say guys is can we please respect HP's wishes in not using the 'r' word, that has been used many, many times the last few pages and it is getting to me now aswell.
Second of all I want to really put something straight. The thought of a 'realistic' competition (i.e. having one like the AFL) is pretty much near on impossible for several reasons. The main reason is that we have the capacity to trade A LOT more than AFL clubs. When players get traded from AFL clubs 95% of the time it is because they are not getting oppurtunities, are not happy at the club they are at, chasing big $$$ or want to return home. The club they get traded to have to a) want the player, b) be prepared (and be able) to cater for their salary and c) be willing to give up assets roughly of what they are worth.
In our game, the only thing we have to contend with is both coaches wanting the other players and be willing to give the correct assets. We don't have to worry about the general happiness/welfare of the player. The players don't have to buy new homes, move their families, negotiate for higher/lower wages, fill out contracts which need to be honoured or payed out etc. In real life, a trade is actually pretty hard to come together quickly and successfully. In this comp, all there needs to be is a pm from one person to another saying 'I will give you Ablett for Rutten' and another saying 'OK Deal'.
I do not think it would be possible to actually manage our competition to the point where our trade and squad activity are as realistic as the AFL. It would seriously need a trading cap of maybe 3 or 4 and that's it. I don't know about everybody else but I quite enjoyed the way our trade periods have run. The main thing it does is keep activity and interest up for a very long and arduous period over the summer.
Now onto the youth v age topic, look what I have done to my side over the trading periods. My starting team from last year was:
B:Carrazzo, Broughton, Guerra, Gram
M:Ablett, NVB, Bartel, Judd
R:Bellchambers
F:SJ, Pav, Porplyzia, Ballantyne
U:Ebert Masten
With Fasolo, Ibbotson, Ellis, Wellingham, McDonald my main reserves.
This has now turned into:
B: Broughton, Hartlett, Guerra, Howard
M: Stanton, Ebert, Masten, Shiels
R: Leuenberger
F: Ryder, Martin, Whitecross, Breust
U: Foley, NVB
with Pederson, Vince, Mackay, JJK, Jetta, Walters, Schulz my main reserves.
The age of my squad has taken a nose-dive, the only player in my starting 15 who is 'old' is Guerra and the only reason I didn't try and trade him is because he is a defender so is harder to replace than all the other positions and I knew I wouldn't get what he is worth to my side. He may even be replaced by Pederson during the season depending how things go.
As you can see though, I have completely turned over what was a great unit (forgive me for getting a big head but what was probably the best starting 15 of last year's comp) however a very, very mature and aged one into one full of young guns and great depth for the loss of IMO very very little average points per game. It just shows you can go the 'youth' way without having to decimate your short-term performances.
TL;DR ? Everybody shut up and get on with it.
Nost must be sick of all my PM's by now haha but i finally got his other gun Crow 8) had to pay a bit but helping Nost with my older guys add's another premiership threat :)
Nost Gives: R.Sloane + S.Edwards + T.Sheridan
I Give: R.Griffen + R.O'Keefe + N.Lower
Quote from: picker_man on January 08, 2013, 01:09:45 AM
Nost must be sick of all my PM's by now haha but i finally got his other gun Crow 8) had to pay a bit but helping Nost with my older guys add's another premiership threat :)
Nost Gives: R.Sloane + S.Edwards + T.Sheridan
I Give: R.Griffen + R.O'Keefe + N.Lower
confirmed 8)
haha, am I the only one who hasnt had insane changes to his squad? I've lost riewoldt + murphy, and thats it... golby + bugg pushed into my 15, but apart from that my squads pretty much the same :P
Quote from: Ziplock on January 08, 2013, 02:59:06 AM
haha, am I the only one who hasnt had insane changes to his squad? I've lost riewoldt + murphy, and thats it... golby + bugg pushed into my 15, but apart from that my squads pretty much the same :P
Silly you you are now bottom 4 contendors
Quote from: Scrads on January 08, 2013, 12:27:37 AM
In our game, the only thing we have to contend with is both coaches wanting the other players and be willing to give the correct assets. We don't have to worry about the general happiness/welfare of the player. The players don't have to buy new homes, move their families, negotiate for higher/lower wages, fill out contracts which need to be honoured or payed out etc. In real life, a trade is actually pretty hard to come together quickly and successfully. In this comp, all there needs to be is a pm from one person to another saying 'I will give you Ablett for Rutten' and another saying 'OK Deal'.
But my players like it in Iceland and we cater to their every needs :(.
(http://cdn.bootsnall.com/articles/images/pools-4-byhotel.thumbnail.jpg)
My XV going into next season:
Back: Harbrow, Mackie, Dempsey, Watts.
Mids: S. Selwood, McVeigh, Judd, Bennell.
Ruck: Mumford.
Fwd: Lewis, Gray, Adams, Mayne.
Bench: Wells, Duncan.
Traded out 5 Starting players in Selwood, Brown, Harvey, Goddard and Chapman but received Judd, Bennell, Rance, Grundy, Mumford, Dempsey and Wells in return pretty much. Took a hit on the individual players, but lowered age and increased depth seeing as our Ruck and Back departments let us down last year ::). At Iceland, we care for our players to trade out too many.
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/43050000/jpg/_43050561_knut_gall11_afp.jpg)
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on January 08, 2013, 03:14:58 AM
Quote from: Ziplock on January 08, 2013, 02:59:06 AM
haha, am I the only one who hasnt had insane changes to his squad? I've lost riewoldt + murphy, and thats it... golby + bugg pushed into my 15, but apart from that my squads pretty much the same :P
Silly you you are now bottom 4 contendors
haha, we'll see.
Quote from: Ziplock on January 08, 2013, 12:27:52 PM
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on January 08, 2013, 03:14:58 AM
Quote from: Ziplock on January 08, 2013, 02:59:06 AM
haha, am I the only one who hasnt had insane changes to his squad? I've lost riewoldt + murphy, and thats it... golby + bugg pushed into my 15, but apart from that my squads pretty much the same :P
Silly you you are now bottom 4 contendors
haha, we'll see.
Zip has a hard draw, he is the only team that plays the 2013 premiers twice.
smeh, my boys need the challenge.
this time last year I was tipped as a top 4/ premiership contender... then my first 3 draft picks all got injured and I finished bottom 4.
I figure since I'm tipped for bottom 4 this year, a reverse is in order? :P
Quote from: Ziplock on January 08, 2013, 01:04:45 PM
smeh, my boys need the challenge.
this time last year I was tipped as a top 4/ premiership contender... then my first 3 draft picks all got injured and I finished bottom 4.
I figure since I'm tipped for bottom 4 this year, a reverse is in order? :P
that or you underpeform even more than expected and win the spoon :)
Yeah you and I got very unlucky we shouldnt have been bottom 4 squads. i think you can make finals.
Well because we have had 4 new coaches or whatever, the trading needs to be drastic to get a reasonable side or favourable side for the coach.
Therefore a lot of the trading has been between myself, Pickers and partly JB, Spink. Not sure why the Bashers have made like 25 list changes tis season... :-\
Quote from: whatlez on January 08, 2013, 03:10:22 PM
Well because we have had 4 new coaches or whatever, the trading needs to be drastic to get a reasonable side or favourable side for the coach.
Therefore a lot of the trading has been between myself, Pickers and partly JB, Spink. Not sure why the Bashers have made like 25 list changes tis season... :-\
I have made a ridicoulous amount too, i guess thats what happens when you win the spoon
Quote from: whatlez on January 08, 2013, 03:10:22 PM
Well because we have had 4 new coaches or whatever, the trading needs to be drastic to get a reasonable side or favourable side for the coach.
Therefore a lot of the trading has been between myself, Pickers and partly JB, Spink. Not sure why the Bashers have made like 25 list changes tis season... :-\
Our bench atm is probably better than our rnd 1 side last year
Quote from: Holzman on January 08, 2013, 01:41:44 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on January 08, 2013, 01:04:45 PM
smeh, my boys need the challenge.
this time last year I was tipped as a top 4/ premiership contender... then my first 3 draft picks all got injured and I finished bottom 4.
I figure since I'm tipped for bottom 4 this year, a reverse is in order? :P
that or you underpeform even more than expected and win the spoon :)
Yeah you and I got very unlucky we shouldnt have been bottom 4 squads. i think you can make finals.
wouldn't care too much- gives me the first rookie + first national pick next year to play with :P
thought it was time to change the DP
Quote from: Holzman on January 08, 2013, 06:45:10 PM
thought it was time to change the DP
will he be in your team this year?
Quote from: nostradamus on January 08, 2013, 06:56:03 PM
Quote from: Holzman on January 08, 2013, 06:45:10 PM
thought it was time to change the DP
will he be in your team this year?
nah, too injury prone and one of the few premiums that can actually get dropped after knocking up a ton.
JB trades J Selwood + T Boak + M Jaensch
Whatlez trades L Shuey + J Steven + M Hibberd
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on January 08, 2013, 07:26:19 PM
JB trades J Selwood + T Boak + M Jaensch
Whatlez trades L Shuey + J Steven + M Hibberd
Confirm. Need a captain, but lose two good young mids.
Up for trade are:
Jaensch
And
One of my players who I had before the rookie draft
And
All of the players selected in the rookie draft.
Oh yeah if anyone is keen for big Ivan Maric. I'm interested :)
what are you looking for?? not for Ivan the other one
Starting mids. Around 90 ave. Or 75+ young forward.
Scrads trades:
Tendai Mzungu
Lez trades:
Matthew Jaensch
Lez to comfirm
Quote from: Scrads on January 08, 2013, 11:50:57 PM
Scrads trades:
Tendai Mzungu
Lez trades:
Matthew Jaensch
Lez to comfirm
Yeah accept. Mzungu will be servicable :) One of the easiest trade ever lol.
Quote from: whatlez on January 08, 2013, 11:51:47 PM
Quote from: Scrads on January 08, 2013, 11:50:57 PM
Scrads trades:
Tendai Mzungu
Lez trades:
Matthew Jaensch
Lez to comfirm
Yeah accept. Mzungu will be servicable :) One of the easiest trade ever lol.
Haha, nice. :)
Quote from: whatlez on January 08, 2013, 11:51:47 PM
Quote from: Scrads on January 08, 2013, 11:50:57 PM
Scrads trades:
Tendai Mzungu
Lez trades:
Matthew Jaensch
Lez to comfirm
Yeah accept. Mzungu will be servicable :) One of the easiest trade ever lol.
Well Mzungu was my 10th mid. Would have needed 5 or 6 mid injuries for him to be even a good chance of a gig in my side so IMO I traded a 'nothing' for a 'nothing but potential to be something' :)
Mzungu actually averages better than Savage, MacKay and others so yeah :P
Mzungu would have never got a game at the Wolves
Quote from: whatlez on January 08, 2013, 11:55:01 PM
Mzungu actually averages better than Savage, MacKay and others so yeah :P
I am tipping Savage and Mackay to both be better than Mzungu this year for sure ;)
And Zu will out average Anderson and Hrovat.
Quote from: whatlez on January 09, 2013, 12:00:38 AM
And Zu will out average Anderson and Hrovat.
So, I said he would have been my 10th mid, meaning Anderson and Hrovat would be my 11th and 12th.
You are also forgetting I could technically play Pederson, Stevenson, JJK, Jetta, Walters, Schulz to replace people in the midfield if I REALLY had to. Which if it gets to the stage where I needed to play Mzungu I would have been flowered anyway.
haha its a spud trade who cares, it will make very little difference to both your teams
Quote from: whatlez on January 08, 2013, 11:55:01 PM
Mzungu actually averages better than Savage, MacKay and others so yeah :P
Yea but Savage is an absolute Jet in the making.
All of those guys you mentioned cept maybe Jetta, are spuds.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on January 09, 2013, 12:08:25 AM
Quote from: whatlez on January 08, 2013, 11:55:01 PM
Mzungu actually averages better than Savage, MacKay and others so yeah :P
Yea but Savage is an absolute Jet in the making.
Will he continue to wear the vest though JB?
Quote from: whatlez on January 09, 2013, 12:08:32 AM
All of those guys you mentioned cept maybe Jetta, are spuds.
All of those guys....... are better than Mzungu ?
Quote from: Adamant on January 09, 2013, 12:13:57 AM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on January 09, 2013, 12:08:25 AM
Quote from: whatlez on January 08, 2013, 11:55:01 PM
Mzungu actually averages better than Savage, MacKay and others so yeah :P
Yea but Savage is an absolute Jet in the making.
Will he continue to wear the vest though JB?
Probably not, depends if hes going to be more consistant this year. I see him taking whitecross spot and then Puopolo, Hill, Frank, Wangeneeen, Ellis should share sub duties
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on January 09, 2013, 12:23:10 AM
Quote from: Adamant on January 09, 2013, 12:13:57 AM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on January 09, 2013, 12:08:25 AM
Quote from: whatlez on January 08, 2013, 11:55:01 PM
Mzungu actually averages better than Savage, MacKay and others so yeah :P
Yea but Savage is an absolute Jet in the making.
Will he continue to wear the vest though JB?
Probably not, depends if hes going to be more consistant this year. I see him taking whitecross spot and then Puopolo, Hill, Frank, Wangeneeen, Ellis should share sub duties
How many players are Hawthorns best 22? Sounds like there are at least 30.
Well only one of those mentioned are in the best 22 as i said there sharing sub duties.
There would be ALOT less trading if ontrading wasn't allowed, as I've already mentioned in the 'have your say' thread but got no response there/ :(
If you want a player, you trade for him. Don't go trading him to someone else.
I look into one thread and it says Trent Cotchin has signed a 10 year deal. Later on down the page i see that he's been traded only a couple of months into that contract. ::)
Most clubs have got completely different sides, and that looks crap. All these top players form EXV's sides moving teams. If there was a cap on how many of a sides top players could leave at the end of a season, the teams would be mostly similar heading into the new season.
The 2012 season was a great season to be a part of, but it's all turned to crap over these trade periods. This competition is nothing like it used to be 4 months ago, I'm losing interest fast.
*NB: I haven't looked at the other competitions, but from the Worlds Squad that Nails has showed me, that's completely different too and i probably won't be joining the Worlds comp.
Quote from: SilkySkills on January 09, 2013, 05:37:19 PM
There would be ALOT less trading if ontrading wasn't allowed, as I've already mentioned in the 'have your say' thread but got no response there/ :(
If you want a player, you trade for him. Don't go trading him to someone else.
I look into one thread and it says Trent Cotchin has signed a 10 year deal. Later on down the page i see that he's been traded only a couple of months into that contract. ::)
Most clubs have got completely different sides, and that looks crap. All these top players form EXV's sides moving teams. If there was a cap on how many of a sides top players could leave at the end of a season, the teams would be mostly similar heading into the new season.
The 2012 season was a great season to be a part of, but it's all turned to crap over these trade periods. This competition is nothing like it used to be 4 months ago, I'm losing interest fast.
*NB: I haven't looked at the other competitions, but from the Worlds Squad that Nails has showed me, that's completely different too and i probably won't be joining the Worlds comp.
it will be much stricter next year and teams will remain realtively constant from here on. this year i couldnt change the rules mid trading periods and it was a transition period.
Thats the whole art of trading ::) Would be one of the worst things to take that away
If you dont have the player to get the guy you want, you then have to plan and use others ways to trade in the guys there after, then on trade them to get the player you want, if this was taken away it would be way to hard to improve your team.
On trading imo is a skill, its an art something that makes trading fun!! If you wanna stop lots of trades make it 5 list movements but dont ruin the only skillful part of it
this is flowering shower that the 3rd trading period is when a lot of teams are on holidays...
1st of feb for end of school holidays etc. would've been better imo. Because on holidays with like 0 net pretty much... my team's premiership hopes are flying out the window.
Quote from: Nails on January 09, 2013, 05:58:12 PM
this is flowering shower that the 3rd trading period is when a lot of teams are on holidays...
1st of feb for end of school holidays etc. would've been better imo. Because on holidays with like 0 net pretty much... my team's premiership hopes are flying out the window.
Get a smart phone.
Im on holidays and still active without a smart phone?
just like pb run your trades :P
Yeah I Fi d it really funny that Holz said Cotchin signed for 10 years and then sold him for a lesser average, older player lol,
Quote from: whatlez on January 09, 2013, 07:24:38 PM
Yeah I Fi d it really funny that Holz said Cotchin signed for 10 years and then sold him for a lesser average, older player lol,
who is only just turned 25 two days ago, and averaged 117 the year before and i rate him the most valuable player in the comp.
yeah, in the initial draft, I had pendles valued at pick 1.
Cotchin averaged 110 and played well below par in the first 10 games.
Pendles played a lot of good games and scored less than 100 and great games were 130 only
Quote from: whatlez on January 09, 2013, 07:24:38 PM
Yeah I Fi d it really funny that Holz said Cotchin signed for 10 years and then sold him for a lesser average, older player lol,
Gotta disagree with that Lez. I think that was a very smart move by Holz.
What happens if Cotchin does a Rocky and drops 10 points on his average? he loses a lot of value. Not saying that it will happen, but I would much rather a proven 115+ scorer who had a down year for his standards (due to his leg injury). Pendles will go back to a 115-120 average.
I doubt Cotchin will drop too much. I would pick Cotchin over Pendles.
Cotchin 2013 Brownlow Medalist, Pendles probs won't win one...
pffft Cotch will do a Rocky ::) and your guessing Pendles will go back to 115-120 just like you are cotch wont go on with it next yr
no idea how this came up but there not going to ave that much difference to make it a worthy arguement.... both guns always will be and if you dont have either bad luck :P haha
Quote from: picker_man on January 09, 2013, 07:43:06 PM
pffft Cotch will do a Rocky ::) and your guessing Pendles will go back to 115-120 just like you are cotch wont go on with it next yr
no idea how this came up but there not going to ave that much difference to make it a worthy arguement.... both guns always will be and if you dont have either bad luck :P haha
im thinking cotchin 110-125.
Pendles 117-120.
Just had to go with safety
Pendles copped a few knocks and a few heavy tags last year, just had an off year
They will both average the same imo
Quote from: Holzman on January 09, 2013, 07:46:25 PM
Quote from: picker_man on January 09, 2013, 07:43:06 PM
pffft Cotch will do a Rocky ::) and your guessing Pendles will go back to 115-120 just like you are cotch wont go on with it next yr
no idea how this came up but there not going to ave that much difference to make it a worthy arguement.... both guns always will be and if you dont have either bad luck :P haha
im thinking cotchin 110-125.
Pendles 117-120.
Just had to go with safety
I think your predictions are spot on Holz
You get the guy you always wanted + the safety that comes with pendles. I get a bit more of a risk with Cotch but a few yrs in age to make up for it
either way we both win :)
Quote from: picker_man on January 09, 2013, 07:43:06 PM
pffft Cotch will do a Rocky ::) and your guessing Pendles will go back to 115-120 just like you are cotch wont go on with it next yr
no idea how this came up but there not going to ave that much difference to make it a worthy arguement.... both guns always will be and if you dont have either bad luck :P haha
Pickers, I'm not saying that Cotchin will do a Rocky, I'm just saying that Pendles is way safer. I reckon Cotch will average 115+ for sure, but there's still an element of risk coming off a breakout season.
An even trade - the safety off Pendles compensates for Cotch being 3 years younger. :)
Quote from: Adamant on January 09, 2013, 08:05:25 PM
Quote from: picker_man on January 09, 2013, 07:43:06 PM
pffft Cotch will do a Rocky ::) and your guessing Pendles will go back to 115-120 just like you are cotch wont go on with it next yr
no idea how this came up but there not going to ave that much difference to make it a worthy arguement.... both guns always will be and if you dont have either bad luck :P haha
Pickers, I'm not saying that Cotchin will do a Rocky, I'm just saying that Pendles is way safer. I reckon Cotch will average 115+ for sure, but there's still an element of risk coming off a breakout season.
An even trade - the safety off Pendles compensates for Cotch being 3 years younger. :)
sorry Adz I read it wrong :-[ i see what what your saying now and I agree 8)
Quote from: whatlez on January 09, 2013, 07:32:44 PM
I doubt Cotchin will drop too much. I would pick Cotchin over Pendles.
Cotchin 2013 Brownlow Medalist, Pendles probs won't win one...
So you'd pick Judd over pendles too?
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on January 09, 2013, 08:15:34 PM
Quote from: whatlez on January 09, 2013, 07:32:44 PM
I doubt Cotchin will drop too much. I would pick Cotchin over Pendles.
Cotchin 2013 Brownlow Medalist, Pendles probs won't win one...
So you'd pick Judd over pendles too?
I dont think he said he will pick Cotch over Pendles just cause he thinks Cotch will win a brownlow and Pendles prolly wont ;)
Quote from: picker_man on January 09, 2013, 08:19:26 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on January 09, 2013, 08:15:34 PM
Quote from: whatlez on January 09, 2013, 07:32:44 PM
I doubt Cotchin will drop too much. I would pick Cotchin over Pendles.
Cotchin 2013 Brownlow Medalist, Pendles probs won't win one...
So you'd pick Judd over pendles too?
I dont think he said he will pick Cotch over Pendles just cause he thinks Cotch will win a brownlow and Pendles prolly wont ;)
I would DT draft cotch ::) silly people... ._.
you would "DT draft Cotch" that makes sense ::) silly person....
Quote from: Holzman on January 08, 2013, 12:33:03 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on January 08, 2013, 12:27:52 PM
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on January 08, 2013, 03:14:58 AM
Quote from: Ziplock on January 08, 2013, 02:59:06 AM
haha, am I the only one who hasnt had insane changes to his squad? I've lost riewoldt + murphy, and thats it... golby + bugg pushed into my 15, but apart from that my squads pretty much the same :P
Silly you you are now bottom 4 contendors
haha, we'll see.
Zip has a hard draw, he is the only team that plays the 2013 premiers twice.
was wondering when the draw will be out Holz?? if not already :-\
Can understand why holz did the trade
Pendles has a few years of proven dt premium cotchin has 1 year. Simple as that and id probably do the same
Quote from: picker_man on January 09, 2013, 05:56:51 PM
Thats the whole art of trading ::) Would be one of the worst things to take that away
If you dont have the player to get the guy you want, you then have to plan and use others ways to trade in the guys there after, then on trade them to get the player you want, if this was taken away it would be way to hard to improve your team.
On trading imo is a skill, its an art something that makes trading fun!! If you wanna stop lots of trades make it 5 list movements but dont ruin the only skillful part of it
If you need to get a player through another player you don't have, do a 3/4/5 way deal.... I just said sotp this crappy ontrading players who have found themselves new homes. Perhaps a limit of 1 ontrade per side, as it did happen once or twice during the AFL trade period :)
Also, Nails has given me control of the team for this trade period. :) So send any PM's to me. :)
Anyone wan to trade with me? :)
Quote from: Scrads on January 08, 2013, 12:27:37 AM
First thing I want to say guys is can we please respect HP's wishes in not using the 'r' word, that has been used many, many times the last few pages and it is getting to me now aswell.
Second of all I want to really put something straight. The thought of a 'realistic' competition (i.e. having one like the AFL) is pretty much near on impossible for several reasons. The main reason is that we have the capacity to trade A LOT more than AFL clubs. When players get traded from AFL clubs 95% of the time it is because they are not getting oppurtunities, are not happy at the club they are at, chasing big $$$ or want to return home. The club they get traded to have to a) want the player, b) be prepared (and be able) to cater for their salary and c) be willing to give up assets roughly of what they are worth.
In our game, the only thing we have to contend with is both coaches wanting the other players and be willing to give the correct assets. We don't have to worry about the general happiness/welfare of the player. The players don't have to buy new homes, move their families, negotiate for higher/lower wages, fill out contracts which need to be honoured or payed out etc. In real life, a trade is actually pretty hard to come together quickly and successfully. In this comp, all there needs to be is a pm from one person to another saying 'I will give you Ablett for Rutten' and another saying 'OK Deal'.
I do not think it would be possible to actually manage our competition to the point where our trade and squad activity are as realistic as the AFL. It would seriously need a trading cap of maybe 3 or 4 and that's it. I don't know about everybody else but I quite enjoyed the way our trade periods have run. The main thing it does is keep activity and interest up for a very long and arduous period over the summer.
Now onto the youth v age topic, look what I have done to my side over the trading periods. My starting team from last year was:
B:Carrazzo, Broughton, Guerra, Gram
M:Ablett, NVB, Bartel, Judd
R:Bellchambers
F:SJ, Pav, Porplyzia, Ballantyne
U:Ebert Masten
With Fasolo, Ibbotson, Ellis, Wellingham, McDonald my main reserves.
This has now turned into:
B: Broughton, Hartlett, Guerra, Howard
M: Stanton, Ebert, Masten, Shiels
R: Leuenberger
F: Ryder, Martin, Whitecross, Breust
U: Foley, NVB
with Pederson, Vince, Mackay, JJK, Jetta, Walters, Schulz my main reserves.
The age of my squad has taken a nose-dive, the only player in my starting 15 who is 'old' is Guerra and the only reason I didn't try and trade him is because he is a defender so is harder to replace than all the other positions and I knew I wouldn't get what he is worth to my side. He may even be replaced by Pederson during the season depending how things go.
As you can see though, I have completely turned over what was a great unit (forgive me for getting a big head but what was probably the best starting 15 of last year's comp) however a very, very mature and aged one into one full of young guns and great depth for the loss of IMO very very little average points per game. It just shows you can go the 'youth' way without having to decimate your short-term performances.
TL;DR ? Everybody shut up and get on with it.
PB I think this post by me sums up why the trades in this comp don't resemble real AFL trades in case you missed it.
It's impossible and boring to keep to AFL rules.
I think on trading should still be allowed... but we should have a significantly smaller trading cap.
Oes none actually want Brent Reilly? 80 ave defender on table? :)
Wait, I'm hearing two coflicting comments here. Do we want less trading to occur or not? I thought the general thoguhts was that there was too much trading happening, which is why i made those suggestions which would limit the trades.
Quote from: Ziplock on January 10, 2013, 02:00:28 AM
I think on trading should still be allowed... but we should have a significantly smaller trading cap.
If you got rid of on trading, then there'll be alot less trading going on, just look at all the players who've been traded more than once. ;)
Quote from: whatlez on January 10, 2013, 12:55:33 PM
Oes none actually want Brent Reilly? 80 ave defender on table? :)
Yes, i'll give you midfielder(s). :P
Quote from: whatlez on January 10, 2013, 12:55:33 PM
Oes none actually want Brent Reilly? 80 ave defender on table? :)
29 year old whos never ave over 79 in his career
Get your facts right
Quote from: SilkySkills on January 10, 2013, 01:33:03 PM
Wait, I'm hearing two coflicting comments here. Do we want less trading to occur or not? I thought the general thoguhts was that there was too much trading happening, which is why i made those suggestions which would limit the trades.
Quote from: Ziplock on January 10, 2013, 02:00:28 AM
I think on trading should still be allowed... but we should have a significantly smaller trading cap.
If you got rid of on trading, then there'll be alot less trading going on, just look at all the players who've been traded more than once. ;)
Quote from: whatlez on January 10, 2013, 12:55:33 PM
Oes none actually want Brent Reilly? 80 ave defender on table? :)
Yes, i'll give you midfielder(s). :P
I have no issue with ontrading, I just dislike the insane amount of list changes some teams have made.
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on January 10, 2013, 02:13:53 PM
Quote from: whatlez on January 10, 2013, 12:55:33 PM
Oes none actually want Brent Reilly? 80 ave defender on table? :)
29 year old whos never ave over 79 in his career
Get your facts right
Sorry sold 79 ave.
What do you have power bug?
Quote from: whatlez on January 10, 2013, 02:47:02 PM
What do you have power bug?
Watson for reilly seems fair
Guys would appreciate some feedback on this idea I proposed in the 'have your say' thread about ways we could limit the trading with out being too drastic :)
http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,70302.30.html
Anyone want Maric, Reilly or Jack?
Taking a massive punt here I need forwards and after my last trade I don't need Pearce anymore.
Holz gives clancee Pearce
Pickers give A. siposs
Confirmed 8)
I guess so. Who's A. Siposs?
arryn siposs, 80 avg forward unsubbed, second year saint, earmarked to take over goddard role off HB.
lol how is that trade fair?
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on January 11, 2013, 12:41:25 AM
lol how is that trade fair?
Rookie 6 for siposs. Seems fair to me
who do you think its unfair too?
pearce is an 80-90 mid only, siposs is a 70-80 forward... seems about right to me? :S
Quote from: Ziplock on January 11, 2013, 12:46:07 AM
who do you think its unfair too?
pearce is an 80-90 mid only, siposs is a 70-80 forward... seems about right to me? :S
since when does he average 70-80?
and has played 16 games in 2 seasons
It's exactly the same as any "trade for the future" that everyone else is doing, holz is banking on potential, that's how it's fair.
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on January 11, 2013, 12:51:17 AM
Quote from: Ziplock on January 11, 2013, 12:46:07 AM
who do you think its unfair too?
pearce is an 80-90 mid only, siposs is a 70-80 forward... seems about right to me? :S
since when does he average 70-80?
and has played 16 games in 2 seasons
Id actually say holz has won that. Siposs beats Pearce
Clancee averages a lot more, but as a pure mid is pretty useless - wont average much more than 90-95.
Sipposs is a risk, but is a potential 80 average forward.
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on January 11, 2013, 12:51:17 AM
Quote from: Ziplock on January 11, 2013, 12:46:07 AM
who do you think its unfair too?
pearce is an 80-90 mid only, siposs is a 70-80 forward... seems about right to me? :S
since when does he average 70-80?
and has played 16 games in 2 seasons
unsubbed he averages 70-80.
and yeah, what JB said. Pearce as mid only has nowhere near the value he had as a forward- it's a bet by both parties.
Quote from: Adamant on January 11, 2013, 12:59:54 AM
Clancee averages a lot more, but as a pure mid is pretty useless - wont average much more than 90-95.
Sipposs is a risk, but is a potential 80 average forward.
you have 2 mids ave over 95 so Pearce is useless ::)
Siposs will be a defender next yr and if he can get a 70-80 ave thats prietty good for a young back, so yeah its a risk for Holz but its a fair trade :)
ok point taken
I love how I trade rookie 6 for Pearce and people say I win easy than I trade that guy for pick 23 and its unfair. If siposs is that good than he should have gone before 22.
Still I'm hoping he can cement his spot on the team that's his first hurdle. Than work on consistency. He played 2 games in defence last year 106 against gws than 58.
Quote from: Holzman on January 11, 2013, 01:14:07 AM
I love how I trade rookie 6 for Pearce and people say I win easy than I trade that guy for pick 23 and its unfair. If siposs is that good than he should have gone before 22.
Still I'm hoping he can cement his spot on the team that's his first hurdle. Than work on consistency. He played 2 games in defence last year 106 against gws than 58.
exactly what i was thinking, and when i took him in the rookie draft apparently it was to early ::)
then again, you traded r6 for pearce when he was f/m.
Quote from: picker_man on January 11, 2013, 01:17:27 AM
Quote from: Holzman on January 11, 2013, 01:14:07 AM
I love how I trade rookie 6 for Pearce and people say I win easy than I trade that guy for pick 23 and its unfair. If siposs is that good than he should have gone before 22.
Still I'm hoping he can cement his spot on the team that's his first hurdle. Than work on consistency. He played 2 games in defence last year 106 against gws than 58.
exactly what i was thinking, and when i took him in the rookie draft apparently it was to early ::)
Well if we werent short a def we would have taken him at 6 he was definately a strong talkung point at the bashers but we needed a d4 more than a 3rd fwd bench
Quote from: Ziplock on January 11, 2013, 01:17:45 AM
then again, you traded r6 for pearce when he was f/m.
No I didn't dr dt had released he was a mid only after I got Simpson and athony I just didn't need Pearce. Even a 95 average mid has him on the bench and I'm expecting big things from swallow
Quote from: Ziplock on January 11, 2013, 12:40:10 AM
arryn siposs, 80 avg forward unsubbed, second year saint, earmarked to take over goddard role off HB.
Not 80 ave, not going to play half back.
Clancee worth rookie 6, now he's worth rookie 15 or something lol. Clancee really sucks.
Quote from: whatlez on January 11, 2013, 01:30:31 AM
Quote from: Ziplock on January 11, 2013, 12:40:10 AM
arryn siposs, 80 avg forward unsubbed, second year saint, earmarked to take over goddard role off HB.
Not 80 ave, not going to play half back.
Clancee worth rookie 6, now he's worth rookie 15 or something lol. Clancee really sucks.
name 5 of your players that ave more...... shows how much your team sucks :P
I think it's a win for both teams. Pearce will go 95-100 next year and Sippos is already a good scorer in his second year
Anyone keen on Kieran Jack?
We still have one list movement left and any of our guys over 25 we will trade, plus any of our rookie guys can be added to a deal so we can get a young fwd
PM Toga, NigeyS or myself if interested 8)
Nails oh Nails, please do not kill me for trading...
Shaun Higgins + Nicholas Joyce to Pickerman
Tom McDonald + Nathan Bock to Sweden
Bock's D/f should go well with Stakers and our defence is strengthened. Only problem is, now if our fwds get injuries, more pressure foes to man who is my DP. :-\ >:D
Quote from: SilkySkills on January 13, 2013, 12:35:11 AM
Nails oh Nails, please do not kill me for trading...
Shaun Higgins + Nicholas Joyce to Pickerman
Tom McDonald + Nathan Bock to Sweden
Bock's D/f should go well with Stakers and our defence is strengthened. Only problem is, now if our fwds get injuries, more pressure foes to man who is my DP. :-\ >:D
Confirmed. Lose Bock who would be very handy with d/f DPP + a good young defender in Mcdonald i rate alot but need a youngish fwd, just hope Missy doesnt get injured!!
O'Rourke, Treloar, and Cooney on the market. :)
Quote from: SilkySkills on January 13, 2013, 12:35:11 AM
Nails oh Nails, please do not kill me for trading...
Shaun Higgins + Nicholas Joyce to Pickerman
Tom McDonald + Nathan Bock to Sweden
Bock's D/f should go well with Stakers and our defence is strengthened. Only problem is, now if our fwds get injuries, more pressure foes to man who is my DP. :-\ >:D
You dont really need two d/f they don't link like DT but defiantly a good trade for you with your aging defence
Defiantly or definitely? ;)
I guess if he did the trade without consulting nails then it is a pretty defiant trade :P
Quote from: CrowsFan on January 13, 2013, 03:04:44 AM
Defiantly or definitely? ;)
I guess if he did the trade without consulting nails then it is a pretty defiant trade :P
yeah it's pretty ballsy move unless he has permission to do trades i wont blame nails for getting pissed about this
Anyone want Brent Reilly?
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on January 13, 2013, 03:09:26 AM
Quote from: CrowsFan on January 13, 2013, 03:04:44 AM
Defiantly or definitely? ;)
I guess if he did the trade without consulting nails then it is a pretty defiant trade :P
yeah it's pretty ballsy move unless he has permission to do trades i wont blame nails for getting pissed about this
nah, nails in onholidays so let pb trade.
Quote from: whatlez on January 13, 2013, 03:24:31 AM
Anyone want Brent Reilly?
no.
He did let me take control of the team, and i spoke to him last night about 30mins after i traded. :-[ He's not too pleased with the loss of Higgins, but not totally displeased. :-\
Also that is why Treloar and O'Rourke are on the market, he's given me orders. :)
Are the trades on the initial page getting updated?
Quote from: whatlez on January 13, 2013, 05:01:28 PM
Are the trades on the initial page getting updated?
haha you seriously expect Holz to go through them all and update :o whats it matter if there on front page or not anywayz......
Quote from: picker_man on January 13, 2013, 05:12:23 PM
Quote from: whatlez on January 13, 2013, 05:01:28 PM
Are the trades on the initial page getting updated?
haha you seriously expect Holz to go through them all and update :o whats it matter if there on front page or not anywayz......
Well I want to see the second periods trades. But I cannot find a list of them :(
Quote from: whatlez on January 13, 2013, 05:13:15 PM
Quote from: picker_man on January 13, 2013, 05:12:23 PM
Quote from: whatlez on January 13, 2013, 05:01:28 PM
Are the trades on the initial page getting updated?
haha you seriously expect Holz to go through them all and update :o whats it matter if there on front page or not anywayz......
Well I want to see the second periods trades. But I cannot find a list of them :(
actually there already on there, just go about half way down of ele's post and you will find them :)
Ahh yes I see. Was looking to see if anyone had bended the rules.
Quote from: whatlez on January 13, 2013, 05:17:56 PM
Ahh yes I see. Was looking to see if anyone had bended the rules.
have fun lol
Quote from: whatlez on January 13, 2013, 05:17:56 PM
Ahh yes I see. Was looking to see if anyone had bended the rules.
watch out guys the Trade Police are on the job :P
Trade with the Bashers:
Joel Selwood + Brent Reilly + Craig Bird
For
Shaun Grigg + Jarryd Blair + Danyle Pearce
Ric to confirm.
Reason: Losing the best player is a loss, but gaining 3 starters is a plus.
Quote from: whatlez on January 13, 2013, 09:09:08 PM
Trade with the Bashers:
Joel Selwood + Brent Reilly + Craig Bird
For
Shaun Grigg + Jarryd Blair + Danyle Pearce
Ric to confirm.
Reason: Losing the best player is a loss, but gaining 3 starters is a plus.
confirmed
Fark finally gets his guy, he will be happy :)
Dam you lez given the bashers rioli and selwood watch them go 95 and 110
These guys reckon Selwood will go around 105. and Cyril won't go 95.
My logic. Gain 3 on field for 1. (Reilly doesn't count)
Quote from: whatlez on January 13, 2013, 09:31:33 PM
These guys reckon Selwood will go around 105. and Cyril won't go 95.
And you listen to them? ::)
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on January 13, 2013, 09:36:38 PM
Quote from: whatlez on January 13, 2013, 09:31:33 PM
These guys reckon Selwood will go around 105. and Cyril won't go 95.
And you listen to them? ::)
Nah, but that's what I thought.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on January 13, 2013, 09:36:38 PM
Quote from: whatlez on January 13, 2013, 09:31:33 PM
These guys reckon Selwood will go around 105. and Cyril won't go 95.
And you listen to them? ::)
The exception proves the rule. :P
Jelwood's game wont change this year, neither will his output, will he turn uber premo? No chance. Will he score between 95 â€" 115 for 22 games? Surely will. He is consistent, but his lack of outside game limits his ceiling.
Grigg averages 5 less, but we get to upgrade Reilly and Bird to Blair and Pearce. Good trade for both.
Don't rate Blair at all (as many in worlds will know), can see him losing his spot this year...
Quote from: Adamant on January 13, 2013, 09:47:24 PM
Jelwood's game wont change this year, neither will his output, will he turn uber premo? No chance. Will he score between 95 â€" 115 for 22 games? Surely will. He is consistent, but his lack of outside game limits his ceiling.
Grigg averages 5 less, but we get to upgrade Reilly and Bird to Blair and Pearce. Good trade for both.
your team loses its balance though, you have no captain option so could be a massive loss in the long run as they are hard to find. Also I will be very surprised is Selwood goes under 100 :o
Quote from: picker_man on January 13, 2013, 09:55:41 PM
Quote from: Adamant on January 13, 2013, 09:47:24 PM
Jelwood's game wont change this year, neither will his output, will he turn uber premo? No chance. Will he score between 95 â€" 115 for 22 games? Surely will. He is consistent, but his lack of outside game limits his ceiling.
Grigg averages 5 less, but we get to upgrade Reilly and Bird to Blair and Pearce. Good trade for both.
your team loses its balance though, you have no captain option so could be a massive loss in the long run as they are hard to find. Also I will be very surprised is Selwood goes under 100 :o
Jelwood definitely won't go under 100, but he also wont go 110.
I don't know how he's going to really improve with the role he plays, but I hope he does for my Asians.
Quote from: Adamant on January 13, 2013, 09:59:22 PM
Quote from: picker_man on January 13, 2013, 09:55:41 PM
Quote from: Adamant on January 13, 2013, 09:47:24 PM
Jelwood's game wont change this year, neither will his output, will he turn uber premo? No chance. Will he score between 95 â€" 115 for 22 games? Surely will. He is consistent, but his lack of outside game limits his ceiling.
Grigg averages 5 less, but we get to upgrade Reilly and Bird to Blair and Pearce. Good trade for both.
your team loses its balance though, you have no captain option so could be a massive loss in the long run as they are hard to find. Also I will be very surprised is Selwood goes under 100 :o
Jelwood definitely won't go under 100, but he also wont go 110.
I don't know how he's going to really improve with the role he plays, but I hope he does for my Asians.
I agree and reason i traded him in the 1st place ;) but i had Cotch,Redden and Stanton at the time to be Captains still, im just surprised you left yourselves with Jack and Grigg to cover that. Is a fair trade though :)
Quote from: picker_man on January 13, 2013, 10:04:53 PM
Quote from: Adamant on January 13, 2013, 09:59:22 PM
Quote from: picker_man on January 13, 2013, 09:55:41 PM
Quote from: Adamant on January 13, 2013, 09:47:24 PM
Jelwood's game wont change this year, neither will his output, will he turn uber premo? No chance. Will he score between 95 â€" 115 for 22 games? Surely will. He is consistent, but his lack of outside game limits his ceiling.
Grigg averages 5 less, but we get to upgrade Reilly and Bird to Blair and Pearce. Good trade for both.
your team loses its balance though, you have no captain option so could be a massive loss in the long run as they are hard to find. Also I will be very surprised is Selwood goes under 100 :o
Jelwood definitely won't go under 100, but he also wont go 110.
I don't know how he's going to really improve with the role he plays, but I hope he does for my Asians.
I agree and reason i traded him in the 1st place ;) but i had Cotch,Redden and Stanton at the time to be Captains still, im just surprised you left yourselves with Jack and Grigg to cover that. Is a fair trade though :)
Just gives us all an easier win against Scotland :P
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on January 13, 2013, 10:07:00 PM
Quote from: picker_man on January 13, 2013, 10:04:53 PM
Quote from: Adamant on January 13, 2013, 09:59:22 PM
Quote from: picker_man on January 13, 2013, 09:55:41 PM
Quote from: Adamant on January 13, 2013, 09:47:24 PM
Jelwood's game wont change this year, neither will his output, will he turn uber premo? No chance. Will he score between 95 â€" 115 for 22 games? Surely will. He is consistent, but his lack of outside game limits his ceiling.
Grigg averages 5 less, but we get to upgrade Reilly and Bird to Blair and Pearce. Good trade for both.
your team loses its balance though, you have no captain option so could be a massive loss in the long run as they are hard to find. Also I will be very surprised is Selwood goes under 100 :o
Jelwood definitely won't go under 100, but he also wont go 110.
I don't know how he's going to really improve with the role he plays, but I hope he does for my Asians.
I agree and reason i traded him in the 1st place ;) but i had Cotch,Redden and Stanton at the time to be Captains still, im just surprised you left yourselves with Jack and Grigg to cover that. Is a fair trade though :)
Just gives us all an easier win against Scotland :P
You pretty much traded Shuey for Selwood. So you can't talk :P
I saw our trade as Jelwood beats Shuey, Boak beats Steven, Mzungu beats Hibbard.
So lol at your comments.
Shuey has the potential to go super premo, Selwood doesnt. ;)
Hibberd will gun it if he stays injury free
Quote from: whatlez on January 13, 2013, 10:22:06 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on January 13, 2013, 10:07:00 PM
Quote from: picker_man on January 13, 2013, 10:04:53 PM
Quote from: Adamant on January 13, 2013, 09:59:22 PM
Quote from: picker_man on January 13, 2013, 09:55:41 PM
Quote from: Adamant on January 13, 2013, 09:47:24 PM
Jelwood's game wont change this year, neither will his output, will he turn uber premo? No chance. Will he score between 95 â€" 115 for 22 games? Surely will. He is consistent, but his lack of outside game limits his ceiling.
Grigg averages 5 less, but we get to upgrade Reilly and Bird to Blair and Pearce. Good trade for both.
your team loses its balance though, you have no captain option so could be a massive loss in the long run as they are hard to find. Also I will be very surprised is Selwood goes under 100 :o
Jelwood definitely won't go under 100, but he also wont go 110.
I don't know how he's going to really improve with the role he plays, but I hope he does for my Asians.
I agree and reason i traded him in the 1st place ;) but i had Cotch,Redden and Stanton at the time to be Captains still, im just surprised you left yourselves with Jack and Grigg to cover that. Is a fair trade though :)
Just gives us all an easier win against Scotland :P
You pretty much traded Shuey for Selwood. So you can't talk :P
I saw our trade as Jelwood beats Shuey, Boak beats Steven, Mzungu beats Hibbard.
So lol at your comments.
umm Stevens beats Boak mate and your the one left without Selwood or Shuey so lol at you ;)
Boak had contract talks on his mind all year and had foot surgery mid year. The 3 years before this, he averaged 90, 95, 86. We expect him to go 90-95+.
Quote from: Adamant on January 13, 2013, 10:35:30 PM
Boak had contract talks on his mind all year and had foot surgery mid year. The 3 years before this, he averaged 90, 95, 86. We expect him to go 90-95+.
We'll you wouldnt have a guy that has foot issues, or is older, or averages less, if you kept stevens..... you see my point :P
Steven beats Boak.
Edit: Is this Steven or Stevens? Coz i'm thinking Jack Steven of Saints yeah? :)
Quote from: Adamant on January 13, 2013, 09:59:22 PM
Quote from: picker_man on January 13, 2013, 09:55:41 PM
Quote from: Adamant on January 13, 2013, 09:47:24 PM
Jelwood's game wont change this year, neither will his output, will he turn uber premo? No chance. Will he score between 95 â€" 115 for 22 games? Surely will. He is consistent, but his lack of outside game limits his ceiling.
Grigg averages 5 less, but we get to upgrade Reilly and Bird to Blair and Pearce. Good trade for both.
your team loses its balance though, you have no captain option so could be a massive loss in the long run as they are hard to find. Also I will be very surprised is Selwood goes under 100 :o
Jelwood definitely won't go under 100, but he also wont go 110.
I don't know how he's going to really improve with the role he plays, but I hope he does for my Asians.
My reason for selwood improving has nothing to do with him. Gelling where down this year and I expect them to be better this year and we all know better teams score more. Add hmac wining the ruck contest I'm tipping selwood to beat his personal best of 107. I agree Blair is very average and grigg I see dropping in average.
On your head lez but I try to get as many stars as possible I now have 4 of the first round picks from the initial draft. I would say the sons have no stars now. You do have good depth though but is that enough? We will see.
PB, we need a jet like jelwood! Get on it ;'(
Can't have the Bashers run away with it.
Quote from: Nails on January 13, 2013, 11:05:36 PM
PB, we need a jet like jelwood! Get on it ;'(
Can't have the Bashers run away with it.
ONly 1 list movement, it'll be difficult. :(
Quote from: SilkySkills on January 13, 2013, 11:10:15 PM
Quote from: Nails on January 13, 2013, 11:05:36 PM
PB, we need a jet like jelwood! Get on it ;'(
Can't have the Bashers run away with it.
ONly 1 list movement, it'll be difficult. :(
Bashers won't give him up he is there best player. Will go 110 and probably get them the cup
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on January 13, 2013, 09:36:38 PM
Quote from: whatlez on January 13, 2013, 09:31:33 PM
These guys reckon Selwood will go around 105. and Cyril won't go 95.
And you listen to them? ::)
haha, those guys speak so much shower, I wouldnt listen to anything they say when they're trying to get a trade.
Quote from: SilkySkills on January 13, 2013, 11:10:15 PM
Quote from: Nails on January 13, 2013, 11:05:36 PM
PB, we need a jet like jelwood! Get on it ;'(
Can't have the Bashers run away with it.
ONly 1 list movement, it'll be difficult. :(
Bloody Bock hogging our movements! haha
I gave you permission to trade and I respect your trades thus far. Use some of those jets we can move without movements.
Is it definite nat drafted players count as list movements? Should've moved them on earlier.
Thanks lez sorry i didnt reply mate was at work but cheers for going through ric
Im happy rics happy le is happy lez is happy. Good trade lads
Quote from: SilkySkills on January 13, 2013, 11:10:15 PM
Quote from: Nails on January 13, 2013, 11:05:36 PM
PB, we need a jet like jelwood! Get on it ;'(
Can't have the Bashers run away with it.
ONly 1 list movement, it'll be difficult. :(
Wouldnt do Jobe for Selwood just to let you know. Selwood is first player i pick in my dt every year.
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on January 14, 2013, 12:25:53 AM
Quote from: SilkySkills on January 13, 2013, 11:10:15 PM
Quote from: Nails on January 13, 2013, 11:05:36 PM
PB, we need a jet like jelwood! Get on it ;'(
Can't have the Bashers run away with it.
ONly 1 list movement, it'll be difficult. :(
Wouldnt do Jobe for Selwood just to let you know. Selwood is first player i pick in my dt every year.
why would they trade Selwood for Watson ??? that is no gain for either team, Im seriously happy you got Jelwood though Fark i know you rate him alot from all the offers i got 8)
Can anyone beat a midfield of
Murphy, Selwood, Swallow, Fyfe
Or a fwd line of
D.Thomas, Robinson, Pavlich, Rioli
#IDONTTHINKSO
Holz still beats your midfield & your backline, so dont fool yourself into thinking you all that ;)
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on January 14, 2013, 12:25:53 AM
Quote from: SilkySkills on January 13, 2013, 11:10:15 PM
Quote from: Nails on January 13, 2013, 11:05:36 PM
PB, we need a jet like jelwood! Get on it ;'(
Can't have the Bashers run away with it.
ONly 1 list movement, it'll be difficult. :(
Wouldnt do Jobe for Selwood just to let you know. Selwood is first player i pick in my dt every year.
haha, see lez, you got flowered.
jobe averaged 115+... if you thought selwood wouldnt average 105, you'd trade him in a heartbeat. On face value, your trade looked, okish. If you looked into it in any detail, it's really not, for instance, in the initial draft, selwood was several coaches idea of a no. 2/3 pick. Lets break it down.
Quote from: whatlez on January 13, 2013, 09:09:08 PM
Trade with the Bashers:
Joel Selwood + Brent Reilly + Craig Bird
For
Shaun Grigg + Jarryd Blair + Danyle Pearce
Ric to confirm.
Reason: Losing the best player is a loss, but gaining 3 starters is a plus.
Name/position/age/current average/ potential average
Selwood/ mid/25 /103/ 110
Reilly/def/30/ 79/79
Bird/f-m/24/69/85
Grigg/mid/25/98/95
Blair/f/23/80/75
Pearce/b/27/73/75
basically, the only win out is pearce being 3 years younger than reilly, and blair being 1 year younger than bird.
selwood vs grigg-selwoods a beast, he's shown he can pull out beast averages (2011 unsubbed he averaged 114), while grigg has chronically underperformed- he's not that great of a player, and honestly, I cant see him pushing his average past 100.
bird vs blair- as sydneys stars age, bird will be getting more midfield time, and as he develops, should easily push his average to 80/90, while still hopefully retaining dpp, he averaged 73 this year removing his two low green vested scores. Blair on the otherhand, is a very small forward... with the exception of harvey, in recent years no forward that small has posted worthwhile averages. Once again, over performing.
pearce vs reilly- lez wins out long term in this, but not by much, pearce being 3 years younger than reilly, but loses out in the sense that reilly is a better scorer. Pearce's scoring wont be substantially boosted by moving to freo, fact is, his playing style and ability aren't suited to high scoring.
that is all. If we didnt have the captain bonus, you could possibly justify this... but since we do have the captain bonus, you cant.
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on January 14, 2013, 12:34:11 AM
Can anyone beat a midfield of
Murphy, Selwood, Swallow, Fyfe
Or a fwd line of
D.Thomas, Robinson, Pavlich, Rioli
#IDONTTHINKSO
holzs midfield chews yours up and spits it out. His backline bends you over the fence and sodomises you. Even his rucks curb stomp yours. Your forwards are the only think you have going- that being said, thomas is in a moon boot, rioli pulls his hammy everytime he goes mid, robinson and pavlich both constantly suffer from injuries.
good luck :P
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on January 14, 2013, 12:34:11 AM
Or a fwd line of
D.Thomas, Robinson, Pavlich, Rioli
#IDONTTHINKSO
Zorko, Rockliff, Roughy and Sylvia/Bolton would give you a run for your money ;)
Hahaha! at times when it comes to trade's Zip i think you only post to benifit your team :P But i also agree on all your other post when that doesnt happen ;D
Lez lost in that trade as you said, still fair but his team looks shower now. I thought he did a great job improving it until that trade, now its average as!!!
Also Holz smashes the Bashers how can anyone think they will beat him ?? he has every line covered except losing a few points in forwards so i'd shut up if i was you Fark, Zip has it spot on. Good luck :P
I've still got heaps of movements left. :P euros is gonna be boring next season. :(
Quote from: Torpedo10 on January 14, 2013, 01:18:19 AM
I've still got heaps of movements left. :P euros is gonna be boring next season. :(
And whos fault is that ::)
Quote from: Torpedo10 on January 14, 2013, 01:18:19 AM
I've still got heaps of movements left. :P euros is gonna be boring next season. :(
I've got 4 movements left... does trading end tonight?
Quote from: Torpedo10 on January 14, 2013, 01:18:19 AM
I've still got heaps of movements left. :P euros is gonna be boring next season. :(
extremely boring :(
I got the spoon last year and I still had a lot of fun. You can pull off a surprise win against a top team and that lots of fun.
Quote from: Holzman on January 14, 2013, 01:43:38 AM
I got the spoon last year and I still had a lot of fun. You can pull off a surprise win against a top team and that lots of fun.
hahah you have me so excited Holz :P I could get a surprise win next yr or in 3 yrs when you still dominate ::) you gotta admit this comp will boring for all of us for quite sometime.... surely you see that. But good luck to you, even though you dont need it all's we have to go on is Eagles or Bashers for premiership
Quote from: picker_man on January 14, 2013, 01:52:10 AM
Quote from: Holzman on January 14, 2013, 01:43:38 AM
I got the spoon last year and I still had a lot of fun. You can pull off a surprise win against a top team and that lots of fun.
hahah you have me so excited Holz :P I could get a surprise win next yr or in 3 yrs when you still dominate ::) you gotta admit this comp will boring for all of us for quite sometime.... surely you see that. But good luck to you, even though you dont need it all's we have to go on is Eagles or Bashers for premiership
I say this though I wouldn't be surprised at all to see someone else win the cup. In fantasy the better team does not always win. I know this all to well as my real dt is normally always the best and I get knocked out by some guy who has guys like jroo pump out a big score.
Nost could go back to back, imagine if Albett and swan turn it on one week. It's possible to get 450 just from those 2.
Torp last year just scraped into the finals and he almost made the grand final .scrads looked unbeatable but didn't end up taking it.
Also I was a top 4 favourite last year and got the spoon.
So I say lets just wait to see what evolves. Zip keeps talking up these potential 110+ players he has he could jump out from the pack.
Quote from: picker_man on January 14, 2013, 01:12:20 AM
Hahaha! at times when it comes to trade's Zip i think you only post to benifit your team :P But i also agree on all your other post when that doesnt happen ;D
Lez lost in that trade as you said, still fair but his team looks shower now. I thought he did a great job improving it until that trade, now its average as!!!
Also Holz smashes the Bashers how can anyone think they will beat him ?? he has every line covered except losing a few points in forwards so i'd shut up if i was you Fark, Zip has it spot on. Good luck :P
So he has Gibbs and Goddard, we have Birchall and Stanley!! Stanley ave 88 in second half of 2011 and 92 last yeat he is on par if not better than Goddard
Gibbs ave 90 odd last year could ave 105 could ave 90 you dont know but Birchall will ave 90 so not far off it
Houli ave 84 in 2011 and 79 last year, shaw will ave 80 so again not far off!
Reilly vs Adcock id call even if not we win. Adcock is injury prone and had some bad patches last year, reilly has been pretty consistent in his averaging and should average 75-79
so Holz wins defence by minimum of 5 points, maximum of 20 points
Midfield would call even steven
Pendlebury and Boyd vs Selwood and Murphy is pretty even maybe 5 points in favour of holz
Swallow + Fyfe vs Lids and Barlow is a draw maybe a few points in favour of us. Lids averaged 90s every year except last whats to say he doesnt drop back!
Rucks are again even Hmac vs Goldy
Fwds is where we gain our real lead.
Daisy (95) + Robbo (90+) + Pav (90+) + Rioli (85+)
vs
Cloke (75) + Lecras (85) + Harvey (85) + Petrie (80)
and you can say thomas is in a moon boot and rioli is injury prone but lecras didnt play a game in 2012 and Harvey and Petrie are on their last legs sooooo
Even if holz has slightly won midfield and defence we are overall well ahead after fwds
Priddis + Carrazzo/Gibson will both av 95 vs Sandi + Anthony id call that a draw
so we not only have the better starting line up but also the better bench cover so when injuries and poor form strike we can cover that better
Suck My flowering Wang
Bashers 2013 Premiers
...
clearly you're a spastic.
goddard and gibbs are both 105+ defenders... which they've shown before.
houli is a piece of crap, scraping an 80 average 1 year doesnt make you a beast. Adcock owns reilly. Shaw? are you joking?
pendles + boyd beat selwood + murphy by about 5 points each, at least. lids + barlow vs fyfe + swallow, once again, at least another 5 ppg each.
goldy is a good 5-10 ppg better than hmac, and nowhere near as injury prone.
once again, forwards are the only place you win.
Well flower all of you guys opinions, especially pickers.
With the 3-4 trades I did, I went from giving Goldy to Shuey + something and ended up gaining Grigg and Blair.
So something less than Goldy for Grigg and Blair.
And Goldy is way overrated. He averaged like 80 and got flogged when he versed some competition. Notice I didn't say real competition.
grigg blows dude.
as does blair, should have kept selwood.
Quote from: Ziplock on January 14, 2013, 02:20:22 AM
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clearly you're a spastic.
goddard and gibbs are both 105+ defenders... which they've shown before.
houli is a piece of crap, scraping an 80 average 1 year doesnt make you a beast. Adcock owns reilly. Shaw? are you joking?
pendles + boyd beat selwood + murphy by about 5 points each, at least. lids + barlow vs fyfe + swallow, once again, at least another 5 ppg each.
goldy is a good 5-10 ppg better than hmac, and nowhere near as injury prone.
once again, forwards are the only place you win.
hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
flower me you make me laugh
Goddard and gibbs 105 plus... gibbs will ave 90-95 if he plays defencem if he plays mids will ave 100-105 max
Goddard at essendon isnt even a garuntee to ave 90. new team new role different players around him you dont know what will happen but he wont be averaging over 100 haha
Houli was playing at essendon as a mid averaging mid 70s in his first few years in afl, comes to tigers ave 84 in 2011, 79 last year in an off year he can either ave 79/80 again or he could push past 84 but he isnt "SCRAPING" for an 80 av
Adcock ave 81 in 2012 but it was an up and down year. Av 63 in 2010 so there is no garuntee he will be an 80+ player. Hes a good player but he gets injured and has patchy form so... between him and reilly its pretty close
you make me laugh zip
if anyones interested happy to trade fringe players
Guthrie, Rosa, Renouf, Cripps, Tom T. Lynch, Pods
not expecting much in return but aye if your interested make an offer
Grigg to ave 100. You're under rating and Blair beats Bird by a country mile. He should go about 80 and still as a 10 year career left in him...
Reilly was not for my team so I sold him cheap and Pearce will be good at a new and better club. Ric was the one completely against this trade and didn't really like it... -_-
I can't believe how overrated flowering Selwood. I predict his Brother to out score him and with the shower Geelong team of next year, he will struggle. Will not improve IMO.
Quote from: whatlez on January 14, 2013, 02:21:13 AM
Well flower all of you guys opinions, especially pickers.
With the 3-4 trades I did, I went from giving Goldy to Shuey + something and ended up gaining Grigg and Blair.
So something less than Goldy for Grigg and Blair.
Lol man your a knob sometimes ::) cant you handle you did a shower trade??
What did i say anything different to anyone else hey spud?? you got no captain, no stars in your team, and lost the trade ::) can anyone say anything different?? deal with it dude.
Funny thing is you talk about what the Basher guys thought in nearly every post, get your opinion ;) obviously they will try talk down the guys you traded them ::) lol
Quote from: Holzman on January 14, 2013, 02:03:23 AM
Quote from: picker_man on January 14, 2013, 01:52:10 AM
Quote from: Holzman on January 14, 2013, 01:43:38 AM
I got the spoon last year and I still had a lot of fun. You can pull off a surprise win against a top team and that lots of fun.
hahah you have me so excited Holz :P I could get a surprise win next yr or in 3 yrs when you still dominate ::) you gotta admit this comp will boring for all of us for quite sometime.... surely you see that. But good luck to you, even though you dont need it all's we have to go on is Eagles or Bashers for premiership
I say this though I wouldn't be surprised at all to see someone else win the cup. In fantasy the better team does not always win. I know this all to well as my real dt is normally always the best and I get knocked out by some guy who has guys like jroo pump out a big score.
Nost could go back to back, imagine if Albett and swan turn it on one week. It's possible to get 450 just from those 2.
Torp last year just scraped into the finals and he almost made the grand final .scrads looked unbeatable but didn't end up taking it.
Also I was a top 4 favourite last year and got the spoon.
So I say lets just wait to see what evolves. Zip keeps talking up these potential 110+ players he has he could jump out from the pack.
yeah no worries Holz all good :) still aint no fool thinking anyone will beat you or Bashers this year... :P
Lol I grilled because it's whatlez, but when spuds like Torp make horrible trade no one cares. Lol.
Quote from: whatlez on January 14, 2013, 02:33:39 AM
Grigg to ave 100. You're under rating and Blair beats Bird by a country mile. He should go about 80 and still as a 10 year career left in him...
Reilly was not for my team so I sold him cheap and Pearce will be good at a new and better club. Ric was the one completely against this trade and didn't really like it... -_-
I can't believe how overrated flowering Selwood. I predict his Brother to out score him and with the shower Geelong team of next year, he will struggle. Will not improve IMO.
grigg 24 ave 98, selwood similar ave 104, i see him going 110 though he is my favourite player so lost our on pearce and blair to get him
Quote from: whatlez on January 14, 2013, 02:43:39 AM
Lol I grilled because it's whatlez, but when spuds like Torp make horrible trade no one cares. Lol.
what do you expect dude, you make so many posts about all these shower players or trades and cant handle a bit back your way.
come on boys lets back off a bit hey
Clearly Lez is trying to build a team for 3-4 years down the track.
He's offloaded a 80 defender who only has a couple of years left for a younger 80 defender
Selwood averaged 109 in a very strong Geelong midfield. He now cops the number 1 tag. But its probably still a 5 point loss to Grigg.
And he gains an young 80 fwd who will always be a fwd, cannot see him losing dpp.
Losing Jelwood as captain hurts him now but he has 3-4 years to trade/develop a replacement.
You can't attack him for trying to look to the future and gaining an extra two starters
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on January 14, 2013, 02:44:45 AM
Quote from: whatlez on January 14, 2013, 02:33:39 AM
Grigg to ave 100. You're under rating and Blair beats Bird by a country mile. He should go about 80 and still as a 10 year career left in him...
Reilly was not for my team so I sold him cheap and Pearce will be good at a new and better club. Ric was the one completely against this trade and didn't really like it... -_-
I can't believe how overrated flowering Selwood. I predict his Brother to out score him and with the shower Geelong team of next year, he will struggle. Will not improve IMO.
grigg 24 ave 98, selwood similar ave 104, i see him going 110 though he is my favourite player so lost our on pearce and blair to get him
Just wondering, would you do Selwood for Murphy?
yeah, if pearce was like 20-24 and had shown vague promise... he's 27 though and has never averaged even 80.
Quote from: Ziplock on January 14, 2013, 02:51:40 AM
yeah, if pearce was like 20-24 and had shown vague promise... he's 27 though and has never averaged even 80.
at Port Adelaide and copping a lot of attention. Freo are a top 8 side, maybe even top 4, with guys like Fyfe and Hill who are likely to get tagged before Pearce.
Remember I have Wines in a few years :). And with Mayes and Grundy being absolute guns too.
Quote from: picker_man on January 14, 2013, 01:12:20 AM
Lez lost in that trade as you said, still fair but his team looks shower now. I thought he did a great job improving it until that trade, now its average as!!!
Also flower off, without me you wouldn't even be in Euros, so show some appreciation
Quote from: Ricochet on January 14, 2013, 02:54:20 AM
Quote from: Ziplock on January 14, 2013, 02:51:40 AM
yeah, if pearce was like 20-24 and had shown vague promise... he's 27 though and has never averaged even 80.
at Port Adelaide and copping a lot of attention. Freo are a top 8 side, maybe even top 4, with guys like Fyfe and Hill who are likely to get tagged before Pearce.
even when port was decent, pearce was still average.
Quote from: Ricochet on January 14, 2013, 02:49:50 AM
come on boys lets back off a bit hey
Clearly Lez is trying to build a team for 3-4 years down the track.
He's offloaded a 80 defender who only has a couple of years left for a younger 80 defender
Selwood averaged 109 in a very strong Geelong midfield. He now cops the number 1 tag. But its probably still a 5 point loss to Grigg.
And he gains an young 80 fwd who will always be a fwd, cannot see him losing dpp.
Losing Jelwood as captain hurts him now but he has 3-4 years to trade/develop a replacement.
You can't attack him for trying to look to the future and gaining an extra two starters
I may be wrong but, aint Grigg and Selwood same age?? Isnt Pearce only 2 yrs younger then Reilly?? Isnt Bird a few months older then Blair?? haha he went heaps younger :P
I never had a go at Lez until he brought my name up, he posts so much shower about pplz players and thoughts on who wins trades he needs to learn to handle a little back his own way imo, instead of crying fowl when one bad comment comes his way ::)
Quote from: whatlez on January 14, 2013, 02:57:42 AM
Quote from: picker_man on January 14, 2013, 01:12:20 AM
Lez lost in that trade as you said, still fair but his team looks shower now. I thought he did a great job improving it until that trade, now its average as!!!
Also flower off, without me you wouldn't even be in Euros, so show some appreciation
pffft you prove my point, you sound like a baby. that was what 4/5 months ago?? we used to PM daily but now your losing my respect everyday with your posts since then. without me without me ::)
I don't care how long ago it was. Holz didn't want you to replace Mailman, but I said you fit the bill and now you're here. If you talk about respect, show some.
Hahha ::) i have plenty of PM's saying Holz is happy to have me join the comp :P your opinion obviously meant nothing, even though you think its like gold, im here to say deal with that aswell ;)
am i going to start editing posts again guys, joly good trade lez ;)
what will be interesting will be going over the trades next year to see who robbed who. You cant really tell now till next year. Selwood for example could do anything its all opinion based sure i think he is a gun, but he could get tagged to death and average 100. Grigg could be let free with all the better richmond mids.
I think everyone is just raring to go for the seasons to start, everything will be settled out there on the pitch.
The only reason to come on ths forum to have heated arguments so my opinion needs to be gold :P
Quote from: Ziplock on January 14, 2013, 03:01:43 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 14, 2013, 02:54:20 AM
Quote from: Ziplock on January 14, 2013, 02:51:40 AM
yeah, if pearce was like 20-24 and had shown vague promise... he's 27 though and has never averaged even 80.
at Port Adelaide and copping a lot of attention. Freo are a top 8 side, maybe even top 4, with guys like Fyfe and Hill who are likely to get tagged before Pearce.
even when port was decent, pearce was still average.
in 2007 when he averaged 78 in his 3rd year? Thats not bad
Quote from: picker_man on January 14, 2013, 03:06:30 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 14, 2013, 02:49:50 AM
come on boys lets back off a bit hey
Clearly Lez is trying to build a team for 3-4 years down the track.
He's offloaded a 80 defender who only has a couple of years left for a younger 80 defender
Selwood averaged 109 in a very strong Geelong midfield. He now cops the number 1 tag. But its probably still a 5 point loss to Grigg.
And he gains an young 80 fwd who will always be a fwd, cannot see him losing dpp.
Losing Jelwood as captain hurts him now but he has 3-4 years to trade/develop a replacement.
You can't attack him for trying to look to the future and gaining an extra two starters
I may be wrong but, aint Grigg and Selwood same age?? Isnt Pearce only 2 yrs younger then Reilly?? Isnt Bird a few months older then Blair?? haha he went heaps younger :P
I never had a go at Lez until he brought my name up, he posts so much shower about pplz players and thoughts on who wins trades he needs to learn to handle a little back his own way imo, instead of crying fowl when one bad comment comes his way ::)
Quote from: whatlez on January 14, 2013, 02:57:42 AM
Quote from: picker_man on January 14, 2013, 01:12:20 AM
Lez lost in that trade as you said, still fair but his team looks shower now. I thought he did a great job improving it until that trade, now its average as!!!
Also flower off, without me you wouldn't even be in Euros, so show some appreciation
pffft you prove my point, you sound like a baby. that was what 4/5 months ago?? we used to PM daily but now your losing my respect everyday with your posts since then. without me without me ::)
Pearce is 3 years younger so when Lez's windows open he will still have an 80 defender. Reilly would have retired
Bird and Blair are similar age (Blair is a year younger) but Blair is a 10 point better player
Quote from: Ricochet on January 14, 2013, 03:22:37 AM
Quote from: Ziplock on January 14, 2013, 03:01:43 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 14, 2013, 02:54:20 AM
Quote from: Ziplock on January 14, 2013, 02:51:40 AM
yeah, if pearce was like 20-24 and had shown vague promise... he's 27 though and has never averaged even 80.
at Port Adelaide and copping a lot of attention. Freo are a top 8 side, maybe even top 4, with guys like Fyfe and Hill who are likely to get tagged before Pearce.
even when port was decent, pearce was still average.
in 2007 when he averaged 78 in his 3rd year? Thats not bad
Quote from: picker_man on January 14, 2013, 03:06:30 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 14, 2013, 02:49:50 AM
come on boys lets back off a bit hey
Clearly Lez is trying to build a team for 3-4 years down the track.
He's offloaded a 80 defender who only has a couple of years left for a younger 80 defender
Selwood averaged 109 in a very strong Geelong midfield. He now cops the number 1 tag. But its probably still a 5 point loss to Grigg.
And he gains an young 80 fwd who will always be a fwd, cannot see him losing dpp.
Losing Jelwood as captain hurts him now but he has 3-4 years to trade/develop a replacement.
You can't attack him for trying to look to the future and gaining an extra two starters
I may be wrong but, aint Grigg and Selwood same age?? Isnt Pearce only 2 yrs younger then Reilly?? Isnt Bird a few months older then Blair?? haha he went heaps younger :P
I never had a go at Lez until he brought my name up, he posts so much shower about pplz players and thoughts on who wins trades he needs to learn to handle a little back his own way imo, instead of crying fowl when one bad comment comes his way ::)
Quote from: whatlez on January 14, 2013, 02:57:42 AM
Quote from: picker_man on January 14, 2013, 01:12:20 AM
Lez lost in that trade as you said, still fair but his team looks shower now. I thought he did a great job improving it until that trade, now its average as!!!
Also flower off, without me you wouldn't even be in Euros, so show some appreciation
pffft you prove my point, you sound like a baby. that was what 4/5 months ago?? we used to PM daily but now your losing my respect everyday with your posts since then. without me without me ::)
Pearce is 3 years younger so when Lez's windows open he will still have an 80 defender. Reilly would have retired
Bird and Blair are similar age (Blair is a year younger) but Blair is a 10 point better player
But if you think Lez is trying to build a team for 3-4 yrs down the track then Pearce would have retired too by then lol
Quote from: picker_man on January 14, 2013, 03:25:48 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 14, 2013, 03:22:37 AM
Quote from: Ziplock on January 14, 2013, 03:01:43 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 14, 2013, 02:54:20 AM
Quote from: Ziplock on January 14, 2013, 02:51:40 AM
yeah, if pearce was like 20-24 and had shown vague promise... he's 27 though and has never averaged even 80.
at Port Adelaide and copping a lot of attention. Freo are a top 8 side, maybe even top 4, with guys like Fyfe and Hill who are likely to get tagged before Pearce.
even when port was decent, pearce was still average.
in 2007 when he averaged 78 in his 3rd year? Thats not bad
Quote from: picker_man on January 14, 2013, 03:06:30 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 14, 2013, 02:49:50 AM
come on boys lets back off a bit hey
Clearly Lez is trying to build a team for 3-4 years down the track.
He's offloaded a 80 defender who only has a couple of years left for a younger 80 defender
Selwood averaged 109 in a very strong Geelong midfield. He now cops the number 1 tag. But its probably still a 5 point loss to Grigg.
And he gains an young 80 fwd who will always be a fwd, cannot see him losing dpp.
Losing Jelwood as captain hurts him now but he has 3-4 years to trade/develop a replacement.
You can't attack him for trying to look to the future and gaining an extra two starters
I may be wrong but, aint Grigg and Selwood same age?? Isnt Pearce only 2 yrs younger then Reilly?? Isnt Bird a few months older then Blair?? haha he went heaps younger :P
I never had a go at Lez until he brought my name up, he posts so much shower about pplz players and thoughts on who wins trades he needs to learn to handle a little back his own way imo, instead of crying fowl when one bad comment comes his way ::)
Quote from: whatlez on January 14, 2013, 02:57:42 AM
Quote from: picker_man on January 14, 2013, 01:12:20 AM
Lez lost in that trade as you said, still fair but his team looks shower now. I thought he did a great job improving it until that trade, now its average as!!!
Also flower off, without me you wouldn't even be in Euros, so show some appreciation
pffft you prove my point, you sound like a baby. that was what 4/5 months ago?? we used to PM daily but now your losing my respect everyday with your posts since then. without me without me ::)
Pearce is 3 years younger so when Lez's windows open he will still have an 80 defender. Reilly would have retired
Bird and Blair are similar age (Blair is a year younger) but Blair is a 10 point better player
But if you think Lez is trying to build a team for 3-4 yrs down the track then Pearce would have retired too by then lol
No he'll be 29-30 so a couple of years left. Its better than having Reilly for one year
Ziplock comes left field and wins the premiership.
Why do I get grilled and get personal attacks, but we'll say Spite trades Fyfe for nothing and no one has a go at Spite, they just have ago at the Bashers? Why am I and Bashers always getting personally attacked?
http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,70463.0.html
i made this ^ a few days ago when we had no plans to trade pearce, i rate him highly but we had to part with him to get selwood
Quote from: whatlez on January 14, 2013, 03:33:01 AM
Why do I get grilled and get personal attacks, but we'll say Spite trades Fyfe for nothing and no one has a go at Spite, they just have ago at the Bashers? Why am I and Bashers always getting personally attacked?
ummm, I didnt have a go at you or spite did I?
I just said you both got dominated in that trade.
and how come if spite traded fyfe for nothing you so vehemently supported the trade?
I smell collusion... :P
Quote from: whatlez on January 14, 2013, 03:33:01 AM
Why do I get grilled and get personal attacks, but we'll say Spite trades Fyfe for nothing and no one has a go at Spite, they just have ago at the Bashers? Why am I and Bashers always getting personally attacked?
Haters gonna hate
They just jealous coz were better than em
Quote from: picker_man on January 14, 2013, 03:25:48 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 14, 2013, 03:22:37 AM
Quote from: Ziplock on January 14, 2013, 03:01:43 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 14, 2013, 02:54:20 AM
Quote from: Ziplock on January 14, 2013, 02:51:40 AM
yeah, if pearce was like 20-24 and had shown vague promise... he's 27 though and has never averaged even 80.
at Port Adelaide and copping a lot of attention. Freo are a top 8 side, maybe even top 4, with guys like Fyfe and Hill who are likely to get tagged before Pearce.
even when port was decent, pearce was still average.
in 2007 when he averaged 78 in his 3rd year? Thats not bad
Quote from: picker_man on January 14, 2013, 03:06:30 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 14, 2013, 02:49:50 AM
come on boys lets back off a bit hey
Clearly Lez is trying to build a team for 3-4 years down the track.
He's offloaded a 80 defender who only has a couple of years left for a younger 80 defender
Selwood averaged 109 in a very strong Geelong midfield. He now cops the number 1 tag. But its probably still a 5 point loss to Grigg.
And he gains an young 80 fwd who will always be a fwd, cannot see him losing dpp.
Losing Jelwood as captain hurts him now but he has 3-4 years to trade/develop a replacement.
You can't attack him for trying to look to the future and gaining an extra two starters
I may be wrong but, aint Grigg and Selwood same age?? Isnt Pearce only 2 yrs younger then Reilly?? Isnt Bird a few months older then Blair?? haha he went heaps younger :P
I never had a go at Lez until he brought my name up, he posts so much shower about pplz players and thoughts on who wins trades he needs to learn to handle a little back his own way imo, instead of crying fowl when one bad comment comes his way ::)
Quote from: whatlez on January 14, 2013, 02:57:42 AM
Quote from: picker_man on January 14, 2013, 01:12:20 AM
Lez lost in that trade as you said, still fair but his team looks shower now. I thought he did a great job improving it until that trade, now its average as!!!
Also flower off, without me you wouldn't even be in Euros, so show some appreciation
pffft you prove my point, you sound like a baby. that was what 4/5 months ago?? we used to PM daily but now your losing my respect everyday with your posts since then. without me without me ::)
Pearce is 3 years younger so when Lez's windows open he will still have an 80 defender. Reilly would have retired
Bird and Blair are similar age (Blair is a year younger) but Blair is a 10 point better player
But if you think Lez is trying to build a team for 3-4 yrs down the track then Pearce would have retired too by then lol
If he is building for 3-4 years why did he trade me Shuey, Steven and Hibberd? :P
Shuey overrated. Steven just doesn't show enough even though I do like him ad Hibbard was worthless in my side...
Quote from: whatlez on January 14, 2013, 04:16:54 AM
Shuey overrated. Steven just doesn't show enough even though I do like him ad Hibbard was worthless in my side...
Shuey and steven are good 90-100av mids but probably arent capable of pushing past 100
Hibberd has offfield issues and will ave 75-80 at best...but will he get there
He got jaensch who i rate higher than hibberd, griffen who is capable of 100+ and grigg who ave 98 and has high cieling
Hibberd smashes Jaensch
never got Griffen - it was Boak ;)
and about a week ago posted this but now overated.....
Quote from: whatlez on January 05, 2013, 02:31:13 AM
Shuey will go 100+ easy and Welly easily out averages Clark and plays a lot more.
things change quickly :o
Quote from: Ziplock on January 14, 2013, 12:57:30 AM
holzs midfield chews yours up and spits it out. His backline bends you over the fence and sodomises you. Even his rucks curb stomp yours. Your forwards are the only think you have going- that being said, thomas is in a moon boot, rioli pulls his hammy everytime he goes mid, robinson and pavlich both constantly suffer from injuries.
good luck :P
Cheers for avoiding the R word :D.
Quote from: Ziplock on January 14, 2013, 03:01:43 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 14, 2013, 02:54:20 AM
Quote from: Ziplock on January 14, 2013, 02:51:40 AM
yeah, if pearce was like 20-24 and had shown vague promise... he's 27 though and has never averaged even 80.
at Port Adelaide and copping a lot of attention. Freo are a top 8 side, maybe even top 4, with guys like Fyfe and Hill who are likely to get tagged before Pearce.
even when port was decent, pearce was still average.
He crumbled under the tag, had the X Factor to do well for Port, so the hint of attention and he just couldn't handle it. So much talent, just needs to learn to handle the tag better as he was too easy for other teams to take out :-X.
The Selwood drama continues! Happy to have had and lost him, as helped my structure a hell of alot. My Captain choice is Scott Selwood now :P.
Pearce will explode this year. That or Stephen Hill will explode. Can't tag both of them and they'll both lineup in the 21.
Jack Steven is a boss, and will become elite once Hayes and co. start retiring/leaving.
@whatlez: Everyone has a go at the Bashers, coz FARK is the most unrealistic person on this forum (maybe 2nd most, to tbag) And you're copping for a) agreeing with them/trading with them , b) trying to back yourself up too much, and c) saying that you have a plan and then trading that plan away. (Shuey, Hibberd, Steven)
And don't worry, i have a go at Spite and co. about what they do too, since it's the same as the 3rd point i've got for you. Say they're going youth, then trade away Fyfe. ;)
Meanwhile the Swedes assemble a super squad which can and should rival the basher and holz' team for the premiership....
meh, I am willing to sell anyone over the age of 25. :) Looking for defenders and some backup midfielders.
Has trading closed?
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on January 14, 2013, 02:17:45 PM
Has trading closed?
oh wow, massive fail by me.
Trading Closed last night
Quote from: picker_man on January 14, 2013, 05:07:17 AM
Hibberd smashes Jaensch
never got Griffen - it was Boak ;)
and about a week ago posted this but now overated.....
Quote from: whatlez on January 05, 2013, 02:31:13 AM
Shuey will go 100+ easy and Welly easily out averages Clark and plays a lot more.
things change quickly :o
Talk Shuey up, you get a straight swap out of him for Selwood lol. Shuey might ave 100 if he's lucky. Look at his score against Crowley, he was 100% fit and got like 40 lol.
Oh btw, I told Holz about that trade and he said, veto lol.
Quote from: whatlez on January 14, 2013, 02:23:01 PM
Oh btw, I told Holz about that trade and he said, veto lol.
yeah because i value selwood that highly :)
I was happy for selwood to go to any club but the bashers, wolves and roulettes.
Great read catching up on the last few pages :P
I think the Bashers win the Selwood trade for sure but not by enough to ask for a veto vote.
It is sad that my team which was such a force last year is definitely not at the level of the Bashers or Eagles and probably Metal aswell this year. Roulettes could also be thereabouts aswell the Ablett-Swan combo is so so deadly.
What my team has I think over those teams apart from maybe the Metal is depth. I think my depth players (and DPP flexibility) will be a great help and I honestly think I can field a starting-quality 15 players every week of the season. I also think that on any day my team has the X-factor to get over the other top teams if players like Stanton, Ryder and Dmart go big.
Zip is awesome at rating teams, now that trading is over and our squads are finalised he should compile a nice list for us and rank the teams in order :)
In fact, we should just have a '2013 EXV prediction thread' and see how everyone thinks the season will pan out and come back to it at the end of the year :)
Quote from: Scrads on January 14, 2013, 03:57:45 PM
Great read catching up on the last few pages :P
I think the Bashers win the Selwood trade for sure but not by enough to ask for a veto vote.
It is sad that my team which was such a force last year is definitely not at the level of the Bashers or Eagles and probably Metal aswell this year. Roulettes could also be thereabouts aswell the Ablett-Swan combo is so so deadly.
What my team has I think over those teams apart from maybe the Metal is depth. I think my depth players (and DPP flexibility) will be a great help and I honestly think I can field a starting-quality 15 players every week of the season. I also think that on any day my team has the X-factor to get over the other top teams if players like Stanton, Ryder and Dmart go big.
Zip is awesome at rating teams, now that trading is over and our squads are finalised he should compile a nice list for us and rank the teams in order :)
In fact, we should just have a '2013 EXV prediction thread' and see how everyone thinks the season will pan out and come back to it at the end of the year :)
the thread is up. Lets hope it doesnt turn into a mud slinging contest.
The thread will be me and pickers fighting :P and Fark and Zip killing each other haha
Quote from: whatlez on January 14, 2013, 04:54:01 PM
The thread will be me and pickers fighting :P and Fark and Zip killing each other haha
should be abit of fun as logn as people dont take it too serious. I really dont think anyone wants to hurt other people but its always good to fire some potshots at people.
Quote from: whatlez on January 14, 2013, 04:54:01 PM
The thread will be me and pickers fighting :P and Fark and Zip killing each other haha
Lol!!! its all fun and games from my end :)
Quote from: whatlez on January 14, 2013, 02:21:40 PM
Quote from: picker_man on January 14, 2013, 05:07:17 AM
Hibberd smashes Jaensch
never got Griffen - it was Boak ;)
and about a week ago posted this but now overated.....
Quote from: whatlez on January 05, 2013, 02:31:13 AM
Shuey will go 100+ easy and Welly easily out averages Clark and plays a lot more.
things change quickly :o
Talk Shuey up, you get a straight swap out of him for Selwood lol. Shuey might ave 100 if he's lucky. Look at his score against Crowley, he was 100% fit and got like 40 lol.
because he is the first 21yo to be tagged out of a game ::)
21?
Wow, that was an immensely painful read.
We get Jelwood though, huzzah!
Quote from: elephants on January 20, 2013, 12:47:18 AM
Wow, that was an immensely painful read.
We get Jelwood though, huzzah!
Didnt you like mine and Whatlez's dog fight ;D haha
Welcome back btw champ hope the trip was awesome! a pity trading has finished now though :(
Quote from: picker_man on January 20, 2013, 01:57:09 AM
Quote from: elephants on January 20, 2013, 12:47:18 AM
Wow, that was an immensely painful read.
We get Jelwood though, huzzah!
Didnt you like mine and Whatlez's dog fight ;D haha
Welcome back btw champ hope the trip was awesome! a pity trading has finished now though :(
Hahah they're all gold in my eyes mate ;)
Thanks bud, I know! What am I gonna do?
Quote from: elephants on January 20, 2013, 01:59:45 AM
Quote from: picker_man on January 20, 2013, 01:57:09 AM
Quote from: elephants on January 20, 2013, 12:47:18 AM
Wow, that was an immensely painful read.
We get Jelwood though, huzzah!
Didnt you like mine and Whatlez's dog fight ;D haha
Welcome back btw champ hope the trip was awesome! a pity trading has finished now though :(
Hahah they're all gold in my eyes mate ;)
Thanks bud, I know! What am I gonna do?
BXV Trade window is open :)
I want Jelwood >:( back.
Quote from: whatlez on January 20, 2013, 02:48:47 AM
I want Jelwood >:( back.
i told you to keep him. Now you have 2 bench players instead of a captain.
Lez and Ad, I'm sure we can conjure up a deal at seasons end ;)
Excited for our contest next season Holz, will be very tight. Think some people are underrating the next best 3-4 teams though..
Of course KB, but Ric handles that mainly for us ;)
Quote from: elephants on January 20, 2013, 03:22:15 AM
Lez and Ad, I'm sure we can conjure up a deal at seasons end ;)
Excited for our contest next season Holz, will be very tight. Think some people are underrating the next best 3-4 teams though..
Of course KB, but Ric handles that mainly for us ;)
yeah but he been offering me crazy deals like Duffield for Swallow or H.Shaw+Parker for M.Murphy+Mzungu :o
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on January 20, 2013, 03:48:09 AM
Quote from: elephants on January 20, 2013, 03:22:15 AM
Lez and Ad, I'm sure we can conjure up a deal at seasons end ;)
Excited for our contest next season Holz, will be very tight. Think some people are underrating the next best 3-4 teams though..
Of course KB, but Ric handles that mainly for us ;)
yeah but he been offering me crazy deals like Duffield for Swallow or H.Shaw+Parker for M.Murphy+Mzungu :o
You offered Mitchell for Duff so i went the next step...
yeah but Swallow has a lot more currency then Mitchell
This is British talk right?
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on January 20, 2013, 03:48:09 AM
Quote from: elephants on January 20, 2013, 03:22:15 AM
Lez and Ad, I'm sure we can conjure up a deal at seasons end ;)
Excited for our contest next season Holz, will be very tight. Think some people are underrating the next best 3-4 teams though..
Of course KB, but Ric handles that mainly for us ;)
yeah but he been offering me crazy deals like Duffield for Swallow or H.Shaw+Parker for M.Murphy+Mzungu :o
Both those trades are better than the one you tabled with lez :P
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on January 20, 2013, 07:00:01 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on January 20, 2013, 03:48:09 AM
Quote from: elephants on January 20, 2013, 03:22:15 AM
Lez and Ad, I'm sure we can conjure up a deal at seasons end ;)
Excited for our contest next season Holz, will be very tight. Think some people are underrating the next best 3-4 teams though..
Of course KB, but Ric handles that mainly for us ;)
yeah but he been offering me crazy deals like Duffield for Swallow or H.Shaw+Parker for M.Murphy+Mzungu :o
Both those trades are better than the one you tabled with lez :P
maybe the Duffield one is but not the other one
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on January 20, 2013, 07:06:15 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on January 20, 2013, 07:00:01 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on January 20, 2013, 03:48:09 AM
Quote from: elephants on January 20, 2013, 03:22:15 AM
Lez and Ad, I'm sure we can conjure up a deal at seasons end ;)
Excited for our contest next season Holz, will be very tight. Think some people are underrating the next best 3-4 teams though..
Of course KB, but Ric handles that mainly for us ;)
yeah but he been offering me crazy deals like Duffield for Swallow or H.Shaw+Parker for M.Murphy+Mzungu :o
Both those trades are better than the one you tabled with lez :P
maybe the Duffield one is but not the other one
They both are actually. Murphy and Swallow both pretty similar. Shaw is showerloads better than Mackie and Parker is showerloads better than Simpson.
ok how come on sportal Shaw averages more then Mackie but is worth less? just a question not arguing
i said Shaw was better?
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on January 20, 2013, 07:13:58 PM
i said Shaw was better?
yeah i know but i assumed Mackie averaged more then Shaw because he was worth more so i was asking why is Mackie priced higher even though he averages less
Havent actually looked at Sportal averages since the draft. But Shaw had a poor year but is a proven premo, Mackie has always been an expensive mid pricer. And Shaw is younger.
Jb goes on prices not averages... :-X
why are we talking about sportal?
Kb* and not sure.l.
Quote from: elephants on September 03, 2012, 12:55:54 AM
Pickers gives: Brent Stanton + Dustin Martin + Rookie 15 + Jack Hombsch
Scrads gives: GAJ + Porplyzia + Travis Varcoe + Rookie 30
So atm Scrads is a genius :o
Quote from: Ricochet on April 19, 2013, 04:06:39 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 03, 2012, 12:55:54 AM
Pickers gives: Brent Stanton + Dustin Martin + Rookie 15 + Jack Hombsch
Scrads gives: GAJ + Porplyzia + Travis Varcoe + Rookie 30
So atm Scrads is a genius :o
Huuuuge win for Scrads thus far..