After the official gold coast team is now announced, how will 2011 affect fastasy football? if a team has a buy everyweek what will the non playing players do? will they be zeros and bench players be used? do you know m0nty???
yeah i've been wondering the same thing. Not sure what will happen, but it defs will be a problem. One team will have a bye and therefore u will cop a zero from anyone in that team.
maybe u will have 3 subs in each area so there is a higher chance u will be able to cover that zero...?
Fantasy freako called for comment & suggestions on this last year.
A few people here are talking up ultimatefooty and one player drafts.
Would be worth a joint discussion b/w m0nty and Freako - anyone want to do the interview / debate?
This is actually an interesting talking point, there are a few options.
Increasing the bench is a good idea, but the salary cap will have to be stretched to allow for that.
I thought that an increased amount of trades could help too.
I'm not even sure how the draw will work?
If you have one team every week having a bye, what happens after R17?
Could the season be reduced to 17 weeks with a more extensive finals series?
It doesn't fit. I even thought of 23 rounds of H&A. If there was 3 byes a week, that 69 in total. 4 per team but there is one extra bye? Only 7 games a week, makes fantasy even harder, tv rights etc reduced. I don't know.
Anyone have any better ideas?
There will be one round in the year, probably around when the split round occurs now, where 11 teams will have byes (only 3 games that week).
24 rounds = 24 byes
+ extra 10 byes in round 10 or whenever
= 34 byes = 2 each
Everyone still gets 22 games
That's how the used to do it before Freo came in anyway
Good call.
Makes perfect sense.
The split round. Why didn't I think of that?
Still worries me how the fantasy setup will work.
Will add another dynamic to the comps I suppose, which can only be healthy for it's "development"!
From Freako's Round 19 rave last year...
"The AFL has guaranteed the Gold Coast will be entering the AFL in 2011. It’s a long way off but a 17-team competition
could spell the end for DT so I just thought I’d make you aware of the potential problems that could arise. For the first
time since 1994 there will be a bye every week in the AFL fixture and some weeks there will be more than one side
with a week off. I have thought briefly about ways we can get around this and here are a few:
• BIGGER SQUADS â€" Instead of a 30-man roster for each DT the salary cap is increased and coaches can
select an extra two players per position in their initial squads to cover the bye players.
• BYE PLAYERS SCORE THEIR AVERAGE â€" If Gary Ablett is averaging 100 per game, the week
Geelong has the bye the sides with him simply get 100 points.
• WEEKLY REPLACEMENTS â€" If St Kilda has the bye and you have Nick Dal Santo in your side and he
is worth $280,000 you can replace him for that week with any player worth the same or less than him.
• ADDITIONAL TRADES â€" The trade limit increases from 20 so that people can make more moves to
cover the players out with the bye each week.
• BAD LUCK â€" It’s up to the coach to pick an even side which can cover players out with the bye each week.
It makes it tougher but will reward the shrewder coaches who can think ahead.
Of course these are just some options that I have come up with and each has its positives and negatives. There is
basically 30 months to come up with a solution so it’ll be interesting to see what outcome is implemented."
well they are all very interesting outcomes prospector, lets hope that it wont be too tampered with. If any one has any good ideas lets hear them!
i think ive figured out the afl fixtures problem. at the end of the day the afl wont have a hell of a lot of say in it. the mcg,scg and the gabba are contracted to their respective state cricket teams and therefore cant be used earlier or later than they currently are and the tv channel with the rights to the afl wont want to shorten the length of the season, so the afl season will still go 4 22 rounds plus 4 weeks of finals and 4 weeks of preseason. there will be 16 rounds where 1 team has a bye (8 games) and 6 rounds where 3 teams will have a bye (7 games) so each team ends up having 2 byes.
i cant figure out what the fantasy comps will do though. the only thing i can think of is that they will keep the 30 player squad and each team can have a maximum of 140 games played by defenders and forwards, 120 games played by midfielders and 40 games played by the rucks throughout the whole season. this would mean they prob have 2 get rid of the head to head stuff, but im not a fan of that anyway.
NOOOooooo.....,
I love the head to head live scoring. Highlight of the weekend
not a fan of head to head?!?!?!
this obviously means you don't have friends who do dream team.
I'm in 2 leagues where i personally know every single other coach.. There is nothing better than beating your mate and giving him shower about it all week long!
Any thoughts about what the people at virtual sports are going to do with the extra team coming in to the afl and thus the bye?
Maybe an extended bench is what im thinking, anyone else got any ideas?
Can we talk about this later? ;D
haha well im pretty curious Q, its an interesting question
Search the site, there was a lot of discussion last year. When you've read all that, see what you reckon.
I'm with you here MQ, got to concentrate on this year b4 2011
http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,1974.msg9593.html#msg9593 (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,1974.msg9593.html#msg9593)
Ok, how about we move the conversation to there, i'll post there and prospector you lock this thread and move the old thread to the DT General Section if not there.
Quote from: Wheeler on April 02, 2009, 09:20:38 AM
i think ive figured out the afl fixtures problem. at the end of the day the afl wont have a hell of a lot of say in it. the mcg,scg and the gabba are contracted to their respective state cricket teams and therefore cant be used earlier or later than they currently are and the tv channel with the rights to the afl wont want to shorten the length of the season, so the afl season will still go 4 22 rounds plus 4 weeks of finals and 4 weeks of preseason. there will be 16 rounds where 1 team has a bye (8 games) and 6 rounds where 3 teams will have a bye (7 games) so each team ends up having 2 byes.
i cant figure out what the fantasy comps will do though. the only thing i can think of is that they will keep the 30 player squad and each team can have a maximum of 140 games played by defenders and forwards, 120 games played by midfielders and 40 games played by the rucks throughout the whole season. this would mean they prob have 2 get rid of the head to head stuff, but im not a fan of that anyway.
What about more then 8 games a week to solve that problem? Monday Night Games? Will mean that we will need another stadium up north and maybe even another channel for games?
Quote from: Master Q on April 06, 2010, 02:46:48 AM
Quote from: Wheeler on April 02, 2009, 09:20:38 AM
i think ive figured out the afl fixtures problem. at the end of the day the afl wont have a hell of a lot of say in it. the mcg,scg and the gabba are contracted to their respective state cricket teams and therefore cant be used earlier or later than they currently are and the tv channel with the rights to the afl wont want to shorten the length of the season, so the afl season will still go 4 22 rounds plus 4 weeks of finals and 4 weeks of preseason. there will be 16 rounds where 1 team has a bye (8 games) and 6 rounds where 3 teams will have a bye (7 games) so each team ends up having 2 byes.
i cant figure out what the fantasy comps will do though. the only thing i can think of is that they will keep the 30 player squad and each team can have a maximum of 140 games played by defenders and forwards, 120 games played by midfielders and 40 games played by the rucks throughout the whole season. this would mean they prob have 2 get rid of the head to head stuff, but im not a fan of that anyway.
What about more then 8 games a week to solve that problem? Monday Night Games? Will mean that we will need another stadium up north and maybe even another channel for games?
Cant have 8 games a week in 2011 (17 teams), but they will in 2012.
The fixture seems to be the main problem. I have another idea - Regular 22 Round season, however, Gold Coast doesnt enter the competition until Round 7. Rounds 1-6 will be played as per usual. From Round 7 (inclusive) each of the teams will take their turn to have a bye, and each team will play the Gold Coast once. This wont be fair on the Gold Coast in terms of winning a premiership, though it will give them signifcant time to prepare for the AFL. It may be the only way to maintain an even competition for the established teams.
As for fantasy, this idea holds some merit. Teams will only have 1 bye each, making it fairly easy to manage your team even with only 2 reserves in each position. I mean, it will become important to structure your team without having say 3 Geelong players in your backline so you can cover the outs. Also, with Gold Coast coming in after round 6, it will help stop people having teams full of cash cows. Because really, you could load up on players like Brandon Matera, Maverick Weller, Charlie Dixon, David Swallow who will probably all start at 80-90k, as well as the 2010 draftees, and have a decent . You'll still be able to downgrade for these players at round 7 (round 9 more likely, jst before price increases) which is usually when people start downgrading their cows anyway.
Any other thoughts? I bet Demitreiou loses sleep over this too!
Really don't think that will work for the GC!
Just do what they use to do in the 15 team comp, have a round where heaps of teams have a bye. Problem solved
Quote from: jr0ck88 on April 07, 2010, 12:53:51 PM
Quote from: Master Q on April 06, 2010, 02:46:48 AM
Quote from: Wheeler on April 02, 2009, 09:20:38 AM
i think ive figured out the afl fixtures problem. at the end of the day the afl wont have a hell of a lot of say in it. the mcg,scg and the gabba are contracted to their respective state cricket teams and therefore cant be used earlier or later than they currently are and the tv channel with the rights to the afl wont want to shorten the length of the season, so the afl season will still go 4 22 rounds plus 4 weeks of finals and 4 weeks of preseason. there will be 16 rounds where 1 team has a bye (8 games) and 6 rounds where 3 teams will have a bye (7 games) so each team ends up having 2 byes.
i cant figure out what the fantasy comps will do though. the only thing i can think of is that they will keep the 30 player squad and each team can have a maximum of 140 games played by defenders and forwards, 120 games played by midfielders and 40 games played by the rucks throughout the whole season. this would mean they prob have 2 get rid of the head to head stuff, but im not a fan of that anyway.
What about more then 8 games a week to solve that problem? Monday Night Games? Will mean that we will need another stadium up north and maybe even another channel for games?
Cant have 8 games a week in 2011 (17 teams), but they will in 2012.
The fixture seems to be the main problem. I have another idea - Regular 22 Round season, however, Gold Coast doesnt enter the competition until Round 7. Rounds 1-6 will be played as per usual. From Round 7 (inclusive) each of the teams will take their turn to have a bye, and each team will play the Gold Coast once. This wont be fair on the Gold Coast in terms of winning a premiership, though it will give them signifcant time to prepare for the AFL. It may be the only way to maintain an even competition for the established teams.
As for fantasy, this idea holds some merit. Teams will only have 1 bye each, making it fairly easy to manage your team even with only 2 reserves in each position. I mean, it will become important to structure your team without having say 3 Geelong players in your backline so you can cover the outs. Also, with Gold Coast coming in after round 6, it will help stop people having teams full of cash cows. Because really, you could load up on players like Brandon Matera, Maverick Weller, Charlie Dixon, David Swallow who will probably all start at 80-90k, as well as the 2010 draftees, and have a decent . You'll still be able to downgrade for these players at round 7 (round 9 more likely, jst before price increases) which is usually when people start downgrading their cows anyway.
Any other thoughts? I bet Demitreiou loses sleep over this too!
You can play more then 8 teams a week, a few teams play more then 1 game? Of course players will get more tired but you can extend team lists to let's say 40 instead of 35...
Geee :( read through all this information and :( DT looks very complicated in 2011..
I think the AFL should make the Gold Coast wait until GWS enters the league to avoid all these problems for DT :D.
Quote from: eaglesman on April 08, 2010, 12:42:53 PM
Geee :( read through all this information and :( DT looks very complicated in 2011..
I think the AFL should make the Gold Coast wait until GWS enters the league to avoid all these problems for DT :D.
couldn't off put more simplier ;D. they really need to think about their fantasy coaches out there >:(
Quote from: Hellopplz on April 08, 2010, 12:44:25 PM
Quote from: eaglesman on April 08, 2010, 12:42:53 PM
Geee :( read through all this information and :( DT looks very complicated in 2011..
I think the AFL should make the Gold Coast wait until GWS enters the league to avoid all these problems for DT :D.
couldn't off put more simplier ;D. they really need to think about their fantasy coaches out there >:(
That's Me! :D
I really dont get why people think it's such a big deal.. basically only one team has a by each week. It just means you can no longer rely on filling up your team with ABC in the midfield and things like that.. it forces us to rely on all the teams (and every team has a gun i mean how many people picked up brad green this year..) and also work the salary cap a bit better.. you would need to really think about whos on your bench so you can rely on them when you need to. Ive played for the last couple of years and while the access to so much information like this site and others.. plus herald sun and their black books and blogs in really great its eliminated the sense of variety found amongst the teams. With the new team and the bye it will make strategy soooo much more better and would require the person to actually think who they should.. wether its worth getting that extra gun in the position or going for a mid pricer so that the guy on your bench is decent as well. I say stick with it the way it is and it will really seperate the men from the boys..
this has been a psa from locknload
Ah, but will there be only 1 bye per round?
Every team has to have two byes, so some rounds might have 3 teams with a bye, or there could be a round with 9 or 11 byes or something similar.
Quote from: ossie85 on April 10, 2010, 04:46:25 AM
Ah, but will there be only 1 bye per round?
Every team has to have two byes, so some rounds might have 3 teams with a bye, or there could be a round with 9 or 11 byes or something similar.
it won't be easy but i reckon most of the rounds will have 1 bye and some middle rounds will have 2 byes (to rest teams) each week.
think 9 or 11 byes is a little too big of an exaggeration.
Quote from: Hellopplz on April 10, 2010, 05:23:44 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on April 10, 2010, 04:46:25 AM
Ah, but will there be only 1 bye per round?
Every team has to have two byes, so some rounds might have 3 teams with a bye, or there could be a round with 9 or 11 byes or something similar.
it won't be easy but i reckon most of the rounds will have 1 bye and some middle rounds will have 2 byes (to rest teams) each week.
think 9 or 11 byes is a little too big of an exaggeration.
Maybe too young for you whipper-snappers to remember, but that's exactly what they did in the 15-team comp. All 1 bye rounds and one round with a feckload (I think it was 9) of byes.
Also, it would be hard to have rounds with only 2 byes! Think you might have an issue with that :)
Quote from: ossie85 on April 10, 2010, 06:30:14 AM
Quote from: Hellopplz on April 10, 2010, 05:23:44 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on April 10, 2010, 04:46:25 AM
Ah, but will there be only 1 bye per round?
Every team has to have two byes, so some rounds might have 3 teams with a bye, or there could be a round with 9 or 11 byes or something similar.
it won't be easy but i reckon most of the rounds will have 1 bye and some middle rounds will have 2 byes (to rest teams) each week.
think 9 or 11 byes is a little too big of an exaggeration.
Maybe too young for you whipper-snappers to remember, but that's exactly what they did in the 15-team comp. All 1 bye rounds and one round with a feckload (I think it was 9) of byes.
Also, it would be hard to have rounds with only 2 byes! Think you might have an issue with that :)
meant 3 byes :P. maybe they wouldn't count the weeks with the excessive byes?
with the DT scoring if aplayer does is not playing 1 round they may just automatically score last weeks score or there average. though this will make it very easy to chose a captain some weeks.
Quote from: chrisuzz on April 10, 2010, 06:52:31 AM
with the DT scoring if aplayer does is not playing 1 round they may just automatically score last weeks score or there average. though this will make it very easy to chose a captain some weeks.
Meh, I hate that idea!
Prefer that it is randomly chosen based on the average/standard deviation of that player's score! If it is a rookie, just give them a standard rookie score.
Quote from: ossie85 on April 10, 2010, 07:04:07 AM
Quote from: chrisuzz on April 10, 2010, 06:52:31 AM
with the DT scoring if aplayer does is not playing 1 round they may just automatically score last weeks score or there average. though this will make it very easy to chose a captain some weeks.
Meh, I hate that idea!
Prefer that it is randomly chosen based on the average/standard deviation of that player's score! If it is a rookie, just give them a standard rookie score.
100 for barlow ;D.
if that is put in place, would rather them do the deviation like ossie said. have more realistic scores than an average.
i live the option that players that have byes score their average for the season that sounds good to me.
not going to happen - nothing next year will made easy
more diverse teams will be required
think - they are putting up a lot of cash in these comp's. They will not make it easy just for a 1 year anomally
it will be harder than everyone thinks
Hey,
Was just pondering the arrival of the 17th AFL license to the Gold Coast and started having a panic attack.
There will have to be a team that is fixtured a bye next year each round, meaning dream team/supercoach scores for players form those teams will be 0.
I can't think of a way to fix this issue of players in a bye week. I suppose positional switching and bench choices will become even more important in 2011.
Of course, I'm bringing this up early and by 2012 it will be rectified with the 18th GWS arrival, but 2011 will be a very very different Fantasy canvas.
Thoughts?
I reckon the players that don't play should score their average
Quote from: jeffery on April 21, 2010, 06:40:06 AM
I reckon the players that don't play should score their average
But then choosing a captain should be easy, i think, more money for a bigger bench and a few more trades as you have more players.
yeah i agree but its definitely gunna be different. The era for getting 5 players from geelong in your team will be over
I think the most logical solution here is "player caps" as in you can only pick a certain number of players from each team.
or do you back your Cats/Saints stars and take the loss in that one week? interesting too when you consider that some teams will have early bye when the league play hasn't started yet. That would be the team to jump on I'd say. As long as they're a top side.
Time will tell, ut surely a fixturing announcement will be made mid year
http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,1974.msg9593.html#msg9593 (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,1974.msg9593.html#msg9593)
Bigger squads and weekly replacements the bets of your ideas I reckon.
Hopefully they don't leave it to bad luck.
A new element would be fun to manage, but they (DT programmers) would just have to go back to the old system the following year when GWS comes in, so they might not want to do all of the extra work for one season.
Maybe like a draft at the start of the year between your respective league. For example you can each nominate a few players each that you would want to use as a replacement if someone is out due to a bye. Then it would run as a draft normally would, you get 1st, 17th, 33rd picks or something like that. Obviously you choose players that arent in your team, but they can only be used during a bye round when someone is out. I dont know just what came to my mind lol
ok.. suck it up princesses..
anyone who plays fantasy sports in other codes like Super14 knows that there is no amendments made for the byes, you just have to suck it up and take this into consideration when choosing your team, it makes you a better fantasy coach and adds an extra element of excitement..
for a year, and then we'll go back to full rounds.
Anyone have any ideas as to how DT will work next year with 17 teams and a bye each week? its gonna be drastically different...
Probably either extra reserve spots or just average out the scores based on the rest of your teams performance.
Actually, Richmond will probably go bankrupt, merge with Adelaide, and there won't be an issue.
I like your second idea.
They shuld just give the people that arent playing their averages. This would be that best solution.They should have introduced the 2 teams at once for the sake of Fantasy football.
I know this is a topic which has been covered well in the past -- and of course will do again come seasons end.
there have been so many different ideas floating around about how the Gold Coast's entry will disrupt DT with the bye now.
Ive just been thinking do people think something like a 40-man squad might come into affect, where you pick 40 players and then make your starting 22 from there? then maybe have either 2 windows during the season (eg rounds 7/14) to make some trades or just one trade window at the half way point of the season? that way you will need to even the spread across the field to not load up on any one team and any LTI's can be traded during the open windows.
just a thought
its just been boggling my mind with the addition of GC next year
(studying for exams so obviously distracted by fanfooty)
but with 17 teams, meaning a team will have to have a bye each round how will DT work i wonder??
Thats going to be a tough one, they might have to change the game completely.
Only thing I could think is they increase the cap and add 1 extra bench to each position, then dters would have to make more strategic choices when picking their teams.
it will either be.
the player on ur dt who has the bye u might get their average. or
u may be able to trade the player who has the bye and not lose one of ur trades
Quote from: browny_wce on May 31, 2010, 03:48:53 PM
its just been boggling my mind with the addition of GC next year
(studying for exams so obviously distracted by fanfooty)
but with 19 teams, meaning a team will have to have a bye each round how will DT work i wonder??
For starters, I hope your studying is going better than your FanFootying has today; first the JKT/Moles mix up and now there will be 19 teams in the league next year?
Jokes aside, there are a few ways the DT gods could go... I reckon changing it so you have 35 players and an increased salary cap to off set the bye.
One thing people haven't mentoined is how the bye will actually work; at least 1 week there will be an epic amount of byes due to 2 byes each team=34, not 22 rounds.
Probably why Freo and Port came in the same year, so they didn't have such a headache. Pretty sure they did come in the same year?
Quote from: jvalles on May 31, 2010, 04:00:12 PM
Probably why Freo and Port came in the same year, so they didn't have such a headache. Pretty sure they did come in the same year?
No they didnt come in the same year
and there is already a few topics about this if u search for it find it no need to start another topic on this
Quote from: gerco on May 31, 2010, 03:55:53 PM
Quote from: browny_wce on May 31, 2010, 03:48:53 PM
its just been boggling my mind with the addition of GC next year
(studying for exams so obviously distracted by fanfooty)
but with 19 teams, meaning a team will have to have a bye each round how will DT work i wonder??
For starters, I hope your studying is going better than your FanFootying has today; first the JKT/Moles mix up and now there will be 19 teams in the league next year?
Jokes aside, there are a few ways the DT gods could go... I reckon changing it so you have 35 players and an increased salary cap to off set the bye.
One thing people haven't mentoined is how the bye will actually work; at least 1 week there will be an epic amount of byes due to 2 byes each team=34, not 22 rounds.
ohhhh god! i am not having a good fanfooty day, probably coz im doing so many things at once! cleaned my car n washed the dogs aswell haha
but spose ud have to go for the players in the teams who wuld have only 1 bye for the season. (which come to think of it, makes its interesting how the AFL will deal with it, coz that cant be fair)
maybe each player on ur team is able to be traded out for that week to then bring in another for that price or under, then at the end of the weekends play u get to choose if u wanna keep that player or not
Quote from: Jugganauts on May 31, 2010, 04:03:49 PM
Quote from: jvalles on May 31, 2010, 04:00:12 PM
Probably why Freo and Port came in the same year, so they didn't have such a headache. Pretty sure they did come in the same year?
No they didnt come in the same year
and there is already a few topics about this if u search for it find it no need to start another topic on this
Yeah found it, Freo in 95 and Port in 97
Quote from: Jugganauts on May 31, 2010, 04:03:49 PM
Quote from: jvalles on May 31, 2010, 04:00:12 PM
Probably why Freo and Port came in the same year, so they didn't have such a headache. Pretty sure they did come in the same year?
No they didnt come in the same year
and there is already a few topics about this if u search for it find it no need to start another topic on this
well if its not on the 1st 2 pages of players n trades i cannot be assed looking for it
Quote from: browny_wce on May 31, 2010, 04:05:52 PM
Quote from: gerco on May 31, 2010, 03:55:53 PM
Quote from: browny_wce on May 31, 2010, 03:48:53 PM
its just been boggling my mind with the addition of GC next year
(studying for exams so obviously distracted by fanfooty)
but with 19 teams, meaning a team will have to have a bye each round how will DT work i wonder??
For starters, I hope your studying is going better than your FanFootying has today; first the JKT/Moles mix up and now there will be 19 teams in the league next year?
Jokes aside, there are a few ways the DT gods could go... I reckon changing it so you have 35 players and an increased salary cap to off set the bye.
One thing people haven't mentoined is how the bye will actually work; at least 1 week there will be an epic amount of byes due to 2 byes each team=34, not 22 rounds.
ohhhh god! i am not having a good fanfooty day, probably coz im doing so many things at once! cleaned my car n washed the dogs aswell haha
but spose ud have to go for the players in the teams who wuld have only 1 bye for the season. (which come to think of it, makes its interesting how the AFL will deal with it, coz that cant be fair)
maybe each player on ur team is able to be traded out for that week to then bring in another for that price or under, then at the end of the weekends play u get to choose if u wanna keep that player or not
One for the AFL to deal with it is for 7 games to played each week (meaning 3 teams would have byes) and then have 1 week with just 6 games (meaning 5 teams would have byes), which would mean each team would have 4 byes.
Quote from: browny_wce on May 31, 2010, 03:48:53 PM
(studying for exams so obviously distracted by fanfooty)
working wonders for me at the moment ;D.
Reckon they'll either extend benches or have more trades. Gonna be hard working it out though.
I personally like the idea of substituting in a player of equal or less value from outside your squad for the week of the bye. Probably means we will all have reloving teams every week. As for the the fixture that is the AFLs problem, they better no mess it up.
will this be the first time that DT and SC will have to contend with byes???
i think that you will temporarily be allowed to remove you from your team for someone and it doesn't count as a trade and then get them back next week
Players getting there average seems the best option don't you think? managing larger teams would completely change the dynamic of DT.
Quote from: EAGLE4LIFE on June 02, 2010, 07:41:37 PM
i think that you will temporarily be allowed to remove you from your team for someone and it doesn't count as a trade and then get them back next week
Quote from: FAT LAD on June 18, 2010, 02:33:29 PM
Players getting there average seems the best option don't you think? managing larger teams would completely change the dynamic of DT.
im hoping that it is one of these two ideas i like the sound of both, but we wont find out till next year
Next year must be such a headache the people funny the fantasy comps. Thank god it's only for one year!
Thats right, it is only one year.... lets not make it too complicated. The suplimentary picks or being able to put reserves into any position ideas not only make it too easy but they over complicate the issues that will go away in 2012 when there will be no bye
imagine if the AFL decide next year there will be a couple of weeks where more than 1 side has a bye ( to shorten the year to equal 24 rnds )
say the first 17 rounds the standard bye for each team but then variation to teams per week for the remaining rounds ( ie 5 rnds 3 teams, then 2 rnds 1 team )
equalling another bye for each of the 17 teams and 24 rnd season
now that woud screw up DT + SC good and proper
( ps - i think my maths is correct ) anyway you get the jist of it -anarchy
I think that the players who have a bye should just have their average score... it's the only solution which isn't really confusing!! ;D
Fantasy competitions are unlikely to allow average scores for bye players, and certainly won't consider the idea of temporary trades.
If there are more players in the comp and more rounds (maybe) then there should be more trades available - i think 24 would be reasonable.
Another simple change - but I think it could help for the bye rounds, would be to have your 18 starting players (as per normal), then allow up to 2 emergencies from any one position to cover your bench. (This is more realistic towards the real game anyway) I.E. If you only had 5 midfielders available you could select 2 players from any of the other positions to cover your bench.
I like that idea Bazinga, and have suggested it before, but I think that players playing out of position should be half-points or something like that.
bench players have a tendancy to cover more than 1 position anyway. Not many AFL teams would only ever have 1 player from each pos on their bench. Why should fantasy footy be the same?
If you were able to use 2 players from each position to cover bench spots there would be no need to have players out of position.
Personally, I think that due to the 17th team coming into the real AFL, DT leagues should be increased to 17, and have a bye each week, just to coincide. Then when GWC comes in, increase it to 18.
Just a thought. What does everyone else think?
doubt that will work, it would just be too hard and the week/s in which more than one team has a bye would make it harder for the ones playing
i like the idea of 18 teams though, depending on fixturing of the real season (ie number of games, whether there is enough rounds to fit in finals and stuff)
here's a left of field
it won't work
I think they should increase the salary cap by 5-10%, allow 30 trades per year (2 per week) and players from a team having a bye should get their average score from their last three games +5% or -5%; depending on which player it is as said in the jobe posts. Some players will recieve +5% and some will recieve -5%..
Quote from: rocca on August 08, 2010, 04:39:38 PM
I think they should increase the salary cap by 5-10%, allow 30 trades per year (2 per week) and players from a team having a bye should get their average score from their last three games +5% or -5%; depending on which player it is as said in the jobe posts. Some players will recieve +5% and some will recieve -5%..
Way too complicated, plus DT works on the actual salary cap given to each team in the AFL. They won't change that concept.
Quote from: Fletch74 on August 09, 2010, 09:03:52 AM
Quote from: rocca on August 08, 2010, 04:39:38 PM
I think they should increase the salary cap by 5-10%, allow 30 trades per year (2 per week) and players from a team having a bye should get their average score from their last three games +5% or -5%; depending on which player it is as said in the jobe posts. Some players will recieve +5% and some will recieve -5%..
Way too complicated, plus DT works on the actual salary cap given to each team in the AFL. They won't change that concept.
no matter how they do it, it's gonna be complicated. you got a better idea? and besides different afl teams get a different salary cap.
Quote from: woozie10 on July 21, 2010, 10:50:37 PM
Personally, I think that due to the 17th team coming into the real AFL, DT leagues should be increased to 17, and have a bye each week, just to coincide. Then when GWC comes in, increase it to 18.
Just a thought. What does everyone else think?
The DT leagues will always = However many AFL rounds they have, minus 3 rounds at the start for 2 games and 1 price rise, minus 4 rounds at the end for finals.
ie; 22 - 3 - 4 = 15 H&A rounds = 16-team league
So if the AFL make it a 24-round season; 24 - 3 - 4 = 18-team league
Right? ???
Agree with woozie.
If the actual league has 17/18 teams in it, why not the fantasy leagues?
Could even start a round earlier (round 3) for leagues. Might throw a spanner in the works, but might fit in finals if needed.
Quote from: Fireballz on August 09, 2010, 05:43:54 PMSo if the AFL make it a 24-round season; 24 - 3 - 4 = 18-team league
Right? ???
Could very well be!
I like the idea of adding a 'pre-season cup' though. If they want to keep it as a 16 team league, i.e.:
1 Bye to being with, Elimination competition for next 4 weeks, 15 rounds, 4 weeks of finals.
But generally I'd like the # of teams = # of teams in the AFL
Can someone please explain to me how dream team will work next year with 17 teams ??? Byes etc ??
No one really knows much yet but have a look here for some ideas: http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/board,46.0.html
all should be explained soon enough
then we have 6 months to get it right
anyone looked at DT talk GF edition
2011 DT set up
AFL season will have 24 rounds
19 rounds have 1 bye but the biggy is 5 rounds with 3 byes
to compensate we will have 24 trades, 33 player squads + 3 bench possys in backs / mids / fowards. looks like only 2 for rucks
now that is going to be a nightmare
Looks alright. Benchies seem what most people want for cover and a trade for each round seems alright.
Now if we could find out the cap, that would be good 8). If it was the same as this year would be challenging :D.
cap will be compensated or player prices HP
this is going to be a nightmare with 5 rounds of 3 teams out
also i am assuming the leagues numbers ( 16 teams ) and 22 rounds will not change so there will be a discrepancy in a few teams of how many byes we cop from them ( ie rnd 23 pies have bye + rnd 24 blues have bye )
Hmm, 24 trades eh?
AFL has 24 rounds of H&A, but DT still has 20? No, if there's 24 trades then there's 24 rounds, surely? That's gonna mean byes in the leagues too ... so may as well have 17 teams to a league ...
It's all gonna depend on the draw!! Will await with baited breath
Quote from: ossie85 on August 24, 2010, 07:31:30 PM
It's all gonna depend on the draw!! Will await with baited breath
Bated breath not fish (baited) breath
lol, nice pick up. Feel harshly done by though, with all the crap grammar and spelling on this site that gets picked up!
You should've had a full stop at the end of your comment also naste! ;)
Quote from: ossie85 on August 25, 2010, 07:29:10 AM
lol, nice pick up. Feel harshly done by though, with all the crap grammar and spelling on this site that gets picked up!
You should've had a full stop at the end of your comment also naste! ;)
I thought you allways started a post with a capital?
Lol being the start I am talking about!
Quote from: naste on August 25, 2010, 07:37:26 AMallways started a post with a capital?
Probably, but 'always' is always spelt 'always' :)
Anyways..... Will be interesting to see when teams have a bye. I.e. if Geelong have a bye in the last round (i.e. the GF) will you choose any cats?
Yes it does make an interesting thought re the last round bye. With having so many players from the 1 team & playing in the last round (GF) you would have had them from the start, so would mean looking at the draw first up. Trading will have to be very well thought out prior to the finals as just going by this years resting of players again. This is refering to the Saints,Cats,Magpies.
PS:- You also forgot the full stop after always.
Probably, but 'always' is always spelt 'always'
whats ur thoughts on the mpp's? alot of squads r really similar this year and i think they need to spice it up a bit to try and get a bigger difference in selected sides, i hope that next season includes alot more mpp players rookies aswell guys that arent quite premium dont get selected much if these guys were mpp's it might lure ppl into that strategy
eg def/mid delidio(3.45%) gibbs(10.27%) stanton(5.46%) s hill(5.11%) mid/fwd winderlich(0.7%) m murphy(5.46%) douglas(1.93%) bruce(0.5%) beams (2.5%) ruck/fwd hille(8.98%) m clark(4.36%) kruezer (5.68%) %'s represent total selections from this year
while im not convinced this would work im keen to hear what other ppl think about mpp's and ways to get ppl creating different squads and could also help with the byes
09 Delidio was a Fwd /Mid so maybe (2011) Def/Mid might apply for him.
There was an announcement on DT Talk about next year. Had a quick look around FF and couldnt see anything but there will probably be a front page article up about it soon.
But its gonna be 24 round season, 19 weeks there is 1 bye 5 weeks there is 3 byes. So its still a 22 game h&a season. Dt will have an extra posi in def/mids/for taking the squad to 33. 24 trades for the year and i guess a higher salary cap. Gonna be some good strategy next year.
Look at the page before this one ;). CFC brought it up 2 days ago ;D.
It will be interesting next year. Hopefully everybody doesn't go with nuff nuff's just for the sake of it!!!