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Title: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: SilverLion on December 22, 2020, 11:26:09 pm
<Insert Player X vs. Y Questions for the 2021 season here>
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: crowls on January 06, 2021, 05:14:19 pm
Reasons for one or the other:
Cash - Laird $564K v Z Williams $458K     save 106K
Score history - L4Y  105.1,96.8,108.3,100.2  v 85.4,101.6,-,93.9    Laird more consistent


Laird is my first choice with Williams with the go to if I need to find cash.   Williams has more potential upside, assuming playing mid at Carlton.   



Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: crowls on January 06, 2021, 05:27:37 pm
Jy Simpkin v Cripps v Walsh for M5


Simpkin has shown he is capable of scores over 120+  is 22 yrs old and ready to step up to prem mid status. (110+ EOY avg).  Faded away in 2nd half of the year.  Another preseason and primed to improve again.


Cripps is underpriced for what he is capable of and maybe with Williams and Walsh to help he might be more consistent.    Walsh is a great footballer still 20yrs of age.   More upside potential with Simpkin is my thought.   What are your thoughts?
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Peter on January 06, 2021, 06:02:42 pm
Simpkin not a top SC player IMO and also plays for NM (big handicap). Have tossed up the other two and leant with Cripps due to ceiling and slight cash saving
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: SilverLion on January 07, 2021, 02:02:27 pm
Reasons for one or the other:
Cash - Laird $564K v Z Williams $458K     save 106K
Score history - L4Y  105.1,96.8,108.3,100.2  v 85.4,101.6,-,93.9    Laird more consistent


Laird is my first choice with Williams with the go to if I need to find cash.   Williams has more potential upside, assuming playing mid at Carlton.   
I'm likely picking both. I'd go Laird in preference if I was only picking one.

Jy Simpkin v Cripps v Walsh for M5


Simpkin has shown he is capable of scores over 120+  is 22 yrs old and ready to step up to prem mid status. (110+ EOY avg).  Faded away in 2nd half of the year.  Another preseason and primed to improve again.


Cripps is underpriced for what he is capable of and maybe with Williams and Walsh to help he might be more consistent.    Walsh is a great footballer still 20yrs of age.   More upside potential with Simpkin is my thought.   What are your thoughts?
None of them. I'd go Rowell or Taranto instead.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Sabretooth Tigers on January 09, 2021, 01:41:34 am
 ::)

J Caldwell  V  J Hately

This one is doing my head in Both ave 64 last season. One played 6 games, one played 9, Any help here would be greatly appreciated. Purely on scoring alone please.  Cheers pete.

 :-\
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: JBs-Hawks on January 09, 2021, 09:31:06 am
Neither
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Peter on January 09, 2021, 11:16:42 am
Agree. Hately, if you have to as better chance of some sort of increase as No  3 or 4 midfielder. Caldwell most likely behind Merrett, Shiel, McGrath, Langford, maybe Heppell
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: crowls on January 09, 2021, 09:22:44 pm
Hately,  based on getting more game and mid time.    Personally I would rather see heppel at BF and Caldwell in the middle for Essendon
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Sabretooth Tigers on January 10, 2021, 01:38:13 am
 :)

Thanks guys
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Sabretooth Tigers on January 28, 2021, 12:16:46 pm
   :-\

Close in price, but which is the best option ??

I Heeney $454,500   V   J De Goey $435,200 

 ::)
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Money Shot on January 28, 2021, 05:28:36 pm
   :-\

Close in price, but which is the best option ??

I Heeney $454,500   V   J De Goey $435,200 

 ::)
Didnít realise De Goey was so cheap!!!

Heeney seems like the safer option though and definitely has the runs on the board!
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: enzedder on January 28, 2021, 05:39:31 pm
DeGoey is an impact player but not good for SC as he is too inconsistent.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: crowls on January 29, 2021, 12:12:09 am
De Goey is the new Stringer.   Hard to see him being a consistent scorer.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: sidvicious on January 30, 2021, 12:31:10 pm
B.Cunnington vs D.Prestia
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: dmac07 on January 31, 2021, 06:30:04 pm
B.Cunnington vs D.Prestia
Prestia.. but also, neither.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: dmac07 on January 31, 2021, 07:12:51 pm
Mid: Neale, Mitchell, Fyfe, Adams, Cripps, ????,  W.Phillips, Pedlar (Collier-Dawkins, Durdin, Downie)

Fwd: Marshall, D.Martin, ????, Perkins, F.Macrae, Cockatoo, (Rowe, Spicer)

Danger & T.Powell
Vs
Bolton & Heppell
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Fid on January 31, 2021, 07:14:01 pm
I would go Danger & T.Powell
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Fid on February 09, 2021, 05:42:10 pm
Sidebottom v Dusty
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: enzedder on February 09, 2021, 06:19:18 pm
Sidebottom v Dusty
Dusty for me.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Fid on February 09, 2021, 06:52:03 pm
Sidebottom v Dusty
Dusty for me.

Thanks mate. I have Dusty, but was thinking Sidebottom, as he may get more mid time with Treloar gone.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: JBs-Hawks on February 09, 2021, 09:56:23 pm
Steele or Clarrie
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Mat0369 on February 09, 2021, 10:51:19 pm
Oliver
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: enzedder on February 10, 2021, 04:30:04 am
Oliver
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: benjy251090 on February 10, 2021, 11:14:35 am
Grundy and mid rookie
                   Vs
Cripps/Rowell and Preuss?

Or wait and see which rookies play then decide, much prefer Grundy and a rookie to set and forget my rucks alongside Gawn, but we shall see!
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Ringo on February 10, 2021, 04:52:02 pm
Grundy and mid rookie
                   Vs
Cripps/Rowell and Preuss?

Or wait and see which rookies play then decide, much prefer Grundy and a rookie to set and forget my rucks alongside Gawn, but we shall see!
Probably wait and see on rookies and more than likely will depend price on rookies as some who will play will be $180k plus.
Also remember Grundy and Gawn share the same bye so need to factor that in.  Rd 14 bye is a little bit problematic given number of prems with that bye.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Ringo on February 10, 2021, 04:53:08 pm
Which one of Tom Stewart, Ridley or Mills would you pick to replace Whitfield if need be due to his injury.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Mat0369 on February 10, 2021, 05:18:51 pm
I have Stewart in my team so he is the guy. Next I would have Ridley and then Mills.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Hazza09 on February 10, 2021, 06:16:03 pm
Dunkley or Dangerfield at F2?
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Sabretooth Tigers on February 10, 2021, 09:28:43 pm
Which one of Tom Stewart, Ridley or Mills would you pick to replace Whitfield if need be due to his injury.

Mills has the Rd. 14 bye so I 'd go Stewart over Ridley by a smidgen, unless Ridley suited my bye set up. No much in it.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: RoughRed on February 10, 2021, 10:45:29 pm
Dunkley or Dangerfield at F2?
Dangerfield, subject to confirmed fitness. Groin or OSP? He is a concern to start and a concern to play the season out for me.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: benjy251090 on February 13, 2021, 08:38:44 pm
Grundy/Stewart/Atkins
                VS
Preuss/Witherden/Macrae

Option ones gives me 2 guaranteed top premiums where as option 2 gives me a decent stepping stone depending how Preuss plays and then a potential top 10 defender in Witherden. Option 1 possibly safer, but Option 2 could give me that bigger reward if Preuss and Witherden play like definite keepers.

TIA
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Money Shot on February 13, 2021, 09:07:53 pm
Grundy, Stewart and a rookie for me.

Think Gawn/Grundy are must haves if you can start them.

Really like the Stewart pick as well.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: benjy251090 on February 13, 2021, 09:39:20 pm
Yeah, will mean I have G/G, thanks mate, Atkins kind of just there as a place holder until rookies named, but should play and be alright for Gold Coast
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Ingram on February 14, 2021, 02:27:58 am
Cripps/Stewart Vs Fyfe/Williams

1st option I feel are more durable and suit Rnd 14 Bye. Fyfe and Williams both have bad history but also the possibility of scoring well.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: crowls on February 14, 2021, 09:55:24 am
Cripps/Stewart Vs Fyfe/Williams

1st option I feel are more durable and suit Rnd 14 Bye. Fyfe and Williams both have bad history but also the possibility of scoring well.
dependability and higher overall year points total for option 1.
plus save on potential trades for covering williams/fyfe
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Money Shot on February 14, 2021, 11:03:47 am
Cripps/Stewart Vs Fyfe/Williams

1st option I feel are more durable and suit Rnd 14 Bye. Fyfe and Williams both have bad history but also the possibility of scoring well.
Cripps and Williams
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Ingram on February 14, 2021, 10:20:29 pm
Cripps and Williams

Current set up with Rowell M6 and Rozee F2.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: billnats on February 17, 2021, 10:25:26 pm
Danger, Neale & Rowell
Vs
Sidebottom, Merrett & Mitchell
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Sabretooth Tigers on February 18, 2021, 01:50:35 am
Danger, Neale & Rowell
Vs
Sidebottom, Merrett & Mitchell

 :)

Personally would go DNR with no contest. Perhaps an interesting one ......
R Marshall  V  anyone else (if Marshall only to miss one week)  ??  Would you be prepared to carry him and lose points for one round to save a trade and have that ruck back up.  Modification   As Marshall looks to be out for longer he becomes Dangerfield.

 ::)
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: crowls on February 18, 2021, 10:21:54 pm
Do Not Resuscitate -  Isnt Mitchell suspect with injury preseason.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: RoughRed on February 20, 2021, 08:51:38 am
Rozee v Butters
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: enzedder on February 20, 2021, 09:50:33 am
Rozee v Butters
Tough call.
Rozee probably at 100k cheaper. Both still on the rise.
Butters averaged 87 in SC last year , with only 2% CBAs across the season. He is touted to play a lot more midfield this year.
Reckon Rozee will be similar and at the price difference heís the one for me.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: shaker on February 20, 2021, 11:26:12 am
Rozee v Butters
Tough call.
Rozee probably at 100k cheaper. Both still on the rise.
Butters averaged 87 in SC last year , with only 2% CBAs across the season. He is touted to play a lot more midfield this year.
Reckon Rozee will be similar and at the price difference heís the one for me.

Yeah difficult picking players like these 2 Rozee obviously cheaper but also a lot of low scoring games Butters showed way more last year but expensive , maybe a year to early for both ? at Butters price I think Greene or Heeney might be better options.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: timtim on February 20, 2021, 05:06:20 pm
Sier vs Heppell?

Lots of vacancy in the MID at collingwood vs previous premium capable of 90-100

Aim is that this will be a cheap keeper for M8/9 by season end
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Deadly6 on February 24, 2021, 02:10:16 pm
Sier vs Heppell?

Lots of vacancy in the MID at collingwood vs previous premium capable of 90-100

Aim is that this will be a cheap keeper for M8/9 by season end

Heppell, more history
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Keeper27 on March 04, 2021, 07:55:56 pm
Caldwell + Dusty vs. Rowell + Heeny
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Sabretooth Tigers on March 05, 2021, 12:53:23 am
 :)

Dusty and the drovers dog even.  Dusty a noted big game player. I'll have my VC on him for Rd.1. First game of the season, first game in front of a crowd at the "G" for a year, and his team unfurls not one but two premiership flags. Something which has never happened before. If that's not a big game, what is ?? I wouldn't be surprised if he gets a super score for Rd.1. I reckon he could be a great POD VC first up and that most will probably double up on Gawn and Grundy.  Cheers and best of luck K27.

 8)
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Keeper27 on March 05, 2021, 01:32:10 pm
:)

Dusty and the drovers dog even.  Dusty a noted big game player. I'll have my VC on him for Rd.1. First game of the season, first game in front of a crowd at the "G" for a year, and his team unfurls not one but two premiership flags. Something which has never happened before. If that's not a big game, what is ?? I wouldn't be surprised if he gets a super score for Rd.1. I reckon he could be a great POD VC first up and that most will probably double up on Gawn and Grundy.  Cheers and best of luck K27.

 8)

Cheers was thinking of VC on him too, but decided against it. He'll be up against my Blue Baggers
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: enzedder on March 06, 2021, 03:33:06 pm
Rowell v Walsh
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Mat0369 on March 06, 2021, 04:49:27 pm
Neither. Split the difference and grab Cripps
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Ringo on March 06, 2021, 05:33:56 pm
Sticking with Rowell only played half a game last weeek and will probably only play 3/4 game on Monday as well.  Rowell has spent the preseason strengthening his legs which should see him explode more.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: enzedder on March 06, 2021, 05:42:19 pm
Neither. Split the difference and grab Cripps
I had Cripps till the Saints game. Plenty of CBAs but then plenty of time forward and crunching pack work and not really showing anything like his superpremo form of the good old days. Not interested in him until he shows he is back.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Ringo on March 08, 2021, 09:44:55 am
Short and Rowell v Duggan and Fyfe,
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: IntegralX on March 08, 2021, 11:23:24 am
Short and Rowell v Duggan and Fyfe,

Pending how Rowell looks, Short + Rowell by a mile. Fyfe is primed to spend more time forward this season by every account. It didn't shape up that way last night but remember that Serong and Cerra also missed last night. Duggan is only playing midfield for as long as Yeo is out, allegedly. Additionally, Fyfe is a near certainty to miss a couple of games.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: IntegralX on March 08, 2021, 02:40:00 pm
JDG+Rowell vs Heeney+Taranto
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Samsturmfels on March 08, 2021, 03:34:59 pm
JDG+Rowell vs Heeney+Taranto
Not really a fan of both forward picks. Both are injury risks and always a chance to play full-time in the forward line. I'd pick degoey as having the higher scoring potential but will always be a too much of a risk for me to consider. Both Rowell and Taranto are good picks but Rowell has the potential to become a super premo.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Hazza09 on March 09, 2021, 02:22:09 am
Williams missing Rd 1 but even previously to that Iíve been 50/50 on these picks.

Williams / Cripps v Daniel / Taranto

Not so sure on Taranto or Cripps too but I could go Bont instead and downgrade Williams to Hayden Young.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: RoughRed on March 09, 2021, 10:06:48 am
Williams missing Rd 1 but even previously to that Iíve been 50/50 on these picks.

Williams / Cripps v Daniel / Taranto

Not so sure on Taranto or Cripps too but I could go Bont instead and downgrade Williams to Hayden Young.
Daniel+ Taranto for me
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: billnats on March 09, 2021, 10:11:38 am
A) Rowell, Lloyd, Jordon (mid bench)
B) Macrae, Duggan, Campbell (M6)
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on March 09, 2021, 10:47:56 am
A) Rowell, Lloyd, Jordon (mid bench)
B) Macrae, Duggan, Campbell (M6)

A) looks the best balanced but I'm not sold on Rowell, think there are better options around the 500k mark
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: bkimm32 on March 09, 2021, 11:22:12 am
Hunter Clark vs Liam Duggan

Both defenders in a similar price bracket, both look to play significant midfield minutes this season and both should improve to an 85-90+ average, good enough for D6

Who would you pick?
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on March 09, 2021, 11:36:57 am
Hunter Clark vs Liam Duggan

Both defenders in a similar price bracket, both look to play significant midfield minutes this season and both should improve to an 85-90+ average, good enough for D6

Who would you pick?

Not sure on either to be honest but Duggan did have a very strong finish to 2020.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: billnats on March 09, 2021, 11:39:57 am
A) Rowell, Lloyd, Jordon (mid bench)
B) Macrae, Duggan, Campbell (M6)

A) looks the best balanced but I'm not sold on Rowell, think there are better options around the 500k mark
A Leaves me with $900 in the bank so would have to be a mid under Rowellís price. Cunnington would be enticing but no preseason doesnít help
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on March 09, 2021, 11:41:30 am
A) Rowell, Lloyd, Jordon (mid bench)
B) Macrae, Duggan, Campbell (M6)

A) looks the best balanced but I'm not sold on Rowell, think there are better options around the 500k mark
A Leaves me with $900 in the bank so would have to be a mid under Rowellís price. Cunnington would be enticing but no preseason doesnít help

Do you have Cripps? If not I would find the dough elsewhere.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: billnats on March 09, 2021, 01:51:01 pm
A) Rowell, Lloyd, Jordon (mid bench)
B) Macrae, Duggan, Campbell (M6)

A) looks the best balanced but I'm not sold on Rowell, think there are better options around the 500k mark
A Leaves me with $900 in the bank so would have to be a mid under Rowellís price. Cunnington would be enticing but no preseason doesnít help

Do you have Cripps? If not I would find the dough elsewhere.

No Cripps. Donít have the coin for him. I have Merrett, Taranto and Bont already.

Last mid would be from my A or B choice in original post
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on March 09, 2021, 01:58:55 pm
A) Rowell, Lloyd, Jordon (mid bench)
B) Macrae, Duggan, Campbell (M6)

A) looks the best balanced but I'm not sold on Rowell, think there are better options around the 500k mark
A Leaves me with $900 in the bank so would have to be a mid under Rowellís price. Cunnington would be enticing but no preseason doesnít help

Do you have Cripps? If not I would find the dough elsewhere.

No Cripps. Donít have the coin for him. I have Merrett, Taranto and Bont already.

Last mid would be from my A or B choice in original post

Grab Rowell then, Lloyd will be super hard to get in, he's a flatliner with his consistency.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: IntegralX on March 09, 2021, 06:09:58 pm
Duggan D4 and Impey F4

Vs

Stewart D3 + any sub 140k rook that isnít already locked in (ex. Fullarton, Murray, Scott)
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on March 09, 2021, 06:22:20 pm
Duggan D4 and Impey F4

Vs

Stewart D3 + any sub 140k rook that isnít already locked in (ex. Fullarton, Murray, Scott)

1 keeper vs 1 maybe keeper, think you have to go the latter
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: tommy10 on March 09, 2021, 09:34:48 pm
Oliver & Dunkley vs Neale & Butters
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: whynot102 on March 09, 2021, 10:05:49 pm
The later
Oliver & Dunkley vs Neale & Butters
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on March 09, 2021, 10:52:35 pm
Oliver & Dunkley vs Neale & Butters

Oliver & Dunkley
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: crowls on March 09, 2021, 11:11:55 pm
Rowell v Walsh
walsh by 5 lengths nz.   no way rowell holds up for the season, longer quarters, less interchange faster game,  2nd yr but first yr player.   rowell is bloody good but is a trap.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: enzedder on March 10, 2021, 05:33:57 am
Rowell v Walsh
walsh by 5 lengths nz.   no way rowell holds up for the season, longer quarters, less interchange faster game,  2nd yr but first yr player.   rowell is bloody good but is a trap.
Thanks mate. Will depend on rookie availability and cash leftover.

That said looking at Campbell v Bruhn

And have also been toying with Campbell & Dunkley v mid pricers Green & Phillips
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: tkringle on March 10, 2021, 08:05:22 am
Oliver v Merrett v Macrae?

Or they will average the same so just flip a coin?!
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: IntegralX on March 10, 2021, 09:08:39 am
Macrae > Merrett > Oliver for me. I have the first 2 but not the 3rd. That extra 30k from Merrett over Oliver could be huge.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Holz on March 10, 2021, 09:27:18 am
Macrae + Joe Daniher v Dunkley + T.Green/J.Caldwell
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Wanderer on March 10, 2021, 09:33:40 am
Macrae + Joe Daniher v Dunkley + T.Green/J.Caldwell

Macrae + Daniher easily
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: IntegralX on March 10, 2021, 10:05:25 am
Macrae + Joe Daniher v Dunkley + T.Green/J.Caldwell

The first. And if youíre suss on Daniher for whatever reason itís easy enough to grab Impey/Dow instead.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: bkimm32 on March 10, 2021, 10:41:29 am
Impey vs Daniher?
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on March 10, 2021, 11:17:27 am
Impey vs Daniher?

Daniher
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Wanderer on March 10, 2021, 11:53:01 am
Impey vs Daniher?

Daniher
+1
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: bkimm32 on March 10, 2021, 11:55:47 am
Alright then, Daniher vs impey vs Dow

This one a lot of people will be choosing between. I can only fit 2 personally and itíll be Daniher and impey at this stage. Dow is a big no thanks for me, despite the hype.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Fid on March 10, 2021, 12:06:05 pm
Alright then, Daniher vs impey vs Dow

This one a lot of people will be choosing between. I can only fit 2 personally and itíll be Daniher and impey at this stage. Dow is a big no thanks for me, despite the hype.

Daniher
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: crowls on March 10, 2021, 02:05:12 pm
Alright then, Daniher vs impey vs Dow

This one a lot of people will be choosing between. I can only fit 2 personally and itíll be Daniher and impey at this stage. Dow is a big no thanks for me, despite the hype.
I know Dow is fourth year breakout,  but never shown the SC scoring ability required to be premium.  I don't think his skills are up to AFL level.   Likely future captain coach of Manangatang Tigers or Biloela Bombers.   Am I missing something here with him?   
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: IntegralX on March 10, 2021, 02:38:36 pm
Alright then, Daniher vs impey vs Dow

This one a lot of people will be choosing between. I can only fit 2 personally and itíll be Daniher and impey at this stage. Dow is a big no thanks for me, despite the hype.
I know Dow is fourth year breakout,  but never shown the SC scoring ability required to be premium.  I don't think his skills are up to AFL level.   Likely future captain coach of Manangatang Tigers or Biloela Bombers.   Am I missing something here with him?   

It seems like Dow is being put in the position to succeed this season. Got roughly half the centre bounces in the practice match. Should get an extended run of games too. Make it break for him...
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: bkimm32 on March 10, 2021, 02:47:33 pm
Alright then, Daniher vs impey vs Dow

This one a lot of people will be choosing between. I can only fit 2 personally and itíll be Daniher and impey at this stage. Dow is a big no thanks for me, despite the hype.
I know Dow is fourth year breakout,  but never shown the SC scoring ability required to be premium.  I don't think his skills are up to AFL level.   Likely future captain coach of Manangatang Tigers or Biloela Bombers.   Am I missing something here with him?   

It seems like Dow is being put in the position to succeed this season. Got roughly half the centre bounces in the practice match. Should get an extended run of games too. Make it break for him...

He is, and he hasnít really done much to justify it to this point.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Hazza09 on March 10, 2021, 06:00:00 pm
Been chopping and changing and not sure which way to go!

Stewart / Taranto / Fullarton
vs
Clark / Bont / Dow

Had cripps in my side until yesterday which I replaced with Taranto.

I know many are going with a 3/5/2/2 set up but something isnít sitting right with the 3 premo backline.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on March 10, 2021, 06:29:29 pm
Been chopping and changing and not sure which way to go!

Stewart / Taranto / Fullarton
vs
Clark / Bont / Dow

Had cripps in my side until yesterday which I replaced with Taranto.

I know many are going with a 3/5/2/2 set up but something isnít sitting right with the 3 premo backline.

I'm seriously considering a 5 premo backline, Briggs/Highmore/Kosi as rookies. Reckon this line could destroy some coaches.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Samsturmfels on March 10, 2021, 07:52:09 pm
Been chopping and changing and not sure which way to go!

Stewart / Taranto / Fullarton
vs
Clark / Bont / Dow

Had cripps in my side until yesterday which I replaced with Taranto.

I know many are going with a 3/5/2/2 set up but something isnít sitting right with the 3 premo backline.
id go the first option. Its very hard to tell how many premo defenders is best to start the year. I have 4 plus clark at the moment due to the uncertainty if more than 3 rookie defenders will play this year. Last year i had a similar issue where i had the choice of Mcasey or Z.Gutherie to pick as rookies. I dont want to that to happen again. At the same time though i dont want my other lines (especially the mids) to be too weak.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Fid on March 11, 2021, 07:25:22 am
Braeden Campbell V Dom Tyson
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Thewizz71 on March 11, 2021, 08:48:15 am
Braeden Campbell V Dom Tyson

So long as he keeps getting picked - I'd say Tyson (some runs on the board)
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Sabretooth Tigers on March 11, 2021, 10:27:22 am
 8)

Tyson capable of scoring consistantly high, making fast cash, and playing off a much superior ruckman. I have both.

 ;)

Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Fid on March 11, 2021, 10:56:36 am
8)

Tyson capable of scoring consistantly high, making fast cash, and playing off a much superior ruckman. I have both.

 ;)

Thanks, yeah I would like to have both, but I have gone for Fantasia. I just think he will score well with the new rule.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Samsturmfels on March 11, 2021, 04:54:03 pm
If 4 defensive rookies get named rd 1:

Clark (D5) + Rowell (M4) vs Merrett + Rookie
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Colliwobblers on March 11, 2021, 11:22:32 pm
that's a tough one , merrett is a big step up on rowell (based on expectations of 2nd year player, which rowell may eclipse).

but clark is a big step up on even a good rookie. def rookies look pretty average even if named.

if clark was 300-350 yeah go merrett and rook but hes only 240...

Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Money Shot on March 12, 2021, 07:06:03 am
Clark/Dunkley v Daniel/Daniher
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: hawkers65 on March 12, 2021, 09:34:36 am
Clark/Dunkley v Daniel/Daniher

Clark/Dunks
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: RoughRed on March 12, 2021, 10:30:46 am
Clark/Dunkley v Daniel/Daniher

Clark/Dunks
+1
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Ringo on March 12, 2021, 10:36:47 am
Clark/Dunkley v Daniel/Daniher

Clark/Dunks
+1
Yes Clark and Dunks

Another one
Short/Dunks v Stewart/Dusty

Short v Howe similar price and Howe looked great in the AAMI.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: hawkers65 on March 12, 2021, 10:48:03 am
Clark/Dunkley v Daniel/Daniher

Clark/Dunks
+1
Yes Clark and Dunks

Another one
Short/Dunks v Stewart/Dusty

Short v Howe similar price and Howe looked great in the AAMI.

Short x2 and Dunks
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Ingram on March 13, 2021, 03:05:57 am
Clark Vs Tyson for M6.

Without factoring in Clark being a  much needed defender. If both were mids only for M6 who do you choose?
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Fid on March 13, 2021, 09:24:54 am
Clark Vs Tyson for M6.

Without factoring in Clark being a  much needed defender. If both were mids only for M6 who do you choose?

I'd go Clark.

Tyson V Heppell
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: IntegralX on March 13, 2021, 10:11:59 am
Clark Vs Tyson for M6.

Without factoring in Clark being a  much needed defender. If both were mids only for M6 who do you choose?

I'd go Clark.

Tyson V Heppell

Heppell I think. Tyson doesnít have that much JS imo, nor will he score that well in the real thing when Cunnington/Anderson/Dumont return.

Neale+Daniher (F3) vs Steele+Caldwell (F2)? Money isnít a consideration because thereís nowhere to spend it atm
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Wanderer on March 13, 2021, 11:27:29 am
Clark Vs Tyson for M6.

Without factoring in Clark being a  much needed defender. If both were mids only for M6 who do you choose?

I'd go Clark.

Tyson V Heppell
I wouldn't take either of them, but if you do, Tyson seems riskier than Heppell IMO.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on March 13, 2021, 12:11:07 pm
Clark/Dunkley v Daniel/Daniher

Daniel/Daniher for me, not sold on Clark's JS, think you need a back-up plan if you go down this route
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Sabretooth Tigers on March 13, 2021, 01:08:35 pm
 :)

I 'd go Clark and Dunkley. Joe's highest score for the last 3 seasons is 103, Clark is young, keen and developing and in my opinion has a far higher ceiling than Daniher. Job security is seen by many as Clark draw back, yet he stayed at Geelong rather than transfer when other teams showed interest in getting him. Dunkley and Daniel both good players, but also IMO Dunkley with the higher ceiling. After all it is about scoring the most points isn't it.

 :o
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on March 13, 2021, 01:15:42 pm
:)

I 'd go Clark and Dunkley. Joe's highest score for the last 3 seasons is 103, Clark is young, keen and developing and in my opinion has a far higher ceiling than Daniher. Job security is seen by many as Clark draw back, yet he stayed at Geelong rather than transfer when other teams showed interest in getting him. Dunkley and Daniel both good players, but also IMO Dunkley with the higher ceiling. After all it is about scoring the most points isn't it.

 :o

Reasonable argument but no sideways available if Clark gets dropped. Will cost you 2 trades to fix defence if no other rooks get the call up. Also worth bearing in mind that Clark will be playing wing where the competition is intense.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on March 13, 2021, 01:26:49 pm
Another point re. Daniher is he'll be getting top notch supply, can see him going at 85 for the season. In his AA year he had 20 scores over 70, be tough to get this consistency with Clark (even if he holds his spot).
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: shaker on March 13, 2021, 01:46:12 pm
Another point re. Daniher is he'll be getting top notch supply, can see him going at 85 for the season. In his AA year he had 20 scores over 70, be tough to get this consistency with Clark (even if he holds his spot).
I'm picking Clark he stayed at the Cats for a reason and was everywhere in the last match , Daniher not a bad pick but he is a stand alone fwd. and they always throw garbage scores if the defenders are good and stops them scoring plus he has been injured for ever it seems.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Mat0369 on March 13, 2021, 01:59:55 pm
Ridley vs Daniel vs Mills vs Doc
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: shaker on March 13, 2021, 02:28:48 pm
Ridley vs Daniel vs Mills vs Doc
Daniel Ridley Mills Doc in that order for me.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on March 13, 2021, 02:39:36 pm
Ridley vs Daniel vs Mills vs Doc

Daniel by quite some margin
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on March 13, 2021, 02:41:53 pm
Another point re. Daniher is he'll be getting top notch supply, can see him going at 85 for the season. In his AA year he had 20 scores over 70, be tough to get this consistency with Clark (even if he holds his spot).
I'm picking Clark he stayed at the Cats for a reason and was everywhere in the last match , Daniher not a bad pick but he is a stand alone fwd. and they always throw garbage scores if the defenders are good and stops them scoring plus he has been injured for ever it seems.

Scott has been cagey about Clark, I reckon it will be a week to week proposition.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Ringo on March 13, 2021, 04:10:40 pm
Cripps V Rowell
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Mat0369 on March 13, 2021, 04:16:04 pm
Cripps. One is a proven 110+ scorer that will be in the majority of CB's. The other we have a small sample size and is coming off a long term injury with no idea how he will handle a tag.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on March 13, 2021, 04:16:53 pm
Cripps V Rowell

Cripps - proven he can easily get to 115, needs some support in the midfield but Williams probably gets the hard tag.

Rowell - second year player coming back from shoulder surgery, has hardly been tested away from home, shortened quarters also helping his cause. Think the expectations on this guy are a tad bit high. Also a chance he gets managed, shoulders can be lingering concerns.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Ringo on March 13, 2021, 04:20:10 pm
Cripps. One is a proven 110+ scorer that will be in the majority of CB's. The other we have a small sample size and is coming off a long term injury with no idea how he will handle a tag.
Thanks Guys - My thinking as well but just wondering how far behind I may be if Rowell comes out firing.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Sabretooth Tigers on March 13, 2021, 04:22:43 pm
:)

I 'd go Clark and Dunkley. Joe's highest score for the last 3 seasons is 103, Clark is young, keen and developing and in my opinion has a far higher ceiling than Daniher. Job security is seen by many as Clark draw back, yet he stayed at Geelong rather than transfer when other teams showed interest in getting him. Dunkley and Daniel both good players, but also IMO Dunkley with the higher ceiling. After all it is about scoring the most points isn't it.

 :o

Reasonable argument but no sideways available if Clark gets dropped. Will cost you 2 trades to fix defence if no other rooks get the call up. Also worth bearing in mind that Clark will be playing wing where the competition is intense.

All good points Bully. But I'm keeping the Clark faith. As far as sideways is concerned I have enough ready $'s to go up to Hayden Young. Was planning long term keeping Clark as a Def/Mid emergency. Early days, reckon most of us still have several team changes we'll try out before the first bounce. Cheers and best of luck mate. Go Tiges !!!!
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: dmac07 on March 13, 2021, 04:33:25 pm
Which 2 of? Can afford any combo except Ziebell & Tyson.

Ziebell, Tyson, Dow, Daniher, Impey.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on March 13, 2021, 05:00:16 pm
:)

I 'd go Clark and Dunkley. Joe's highest score for the last 3 seasons is 103, Clark is young, keen and developing and in my opinion has a far higher ceiling than Daniher. Job security is seen by many as Clark draw back, yet he stayed at Geelong rather than transfer when other teams showed interest in getting him. Dunkley and Daniel both good players, but also IMO Dunkley with the higher ceiling. After all it is about scoring the most points isn't it.

 :o

Reasonable argument but no sideways available if Clark gets dropped. Will cost you 2 trades to fix defence if no other rooks get the call up. Also worth bearing in mind that Clark will be playing wing where the competition is intense.

All good points Bully. But I'm keeping the Clark faith. As far as sideways is concerned I have enough ready $'s to go up to Hayden Young. Was planning long term keeping Clark as a Def/Mid emergency. Early days, reckon most of us still have several team changes we'll try out before the first bounce. Cheers and best of luck mate. Go Tiges !!!!

Contingency plan good, only 1 trade to fix. Best of luck & enjoy the unfurling of two flags.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Ringo on March 13, 2021, 05:23:49 pm
Which 2 of? Can afford any combo except Ziebell & Tyson.

Ziebell, Tyson, Dow, Daniher, Impey.
Zeibell and Daniher for me. Seems to be the most popular at the moment.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: billnats on March 14, 2021, 10:43:57 am
A) Williams & Dunkley
B) Stewart & Butters
C) Laird & Phillips
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on March 14, 2021, 11:02:04 am
A) Williams & Dunkley
B) Stewart & Butters
C) Laird & Phillips

Option A if you are willing to cop a rookie score round 1
Option C if you want to go with a full deck
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: billnats on March 14, 2021, 11:07:57 am
A) Williams & Dunkley
B) Stewart & Butters
C) Laird & Phillips
Option A if you are willing to cop a rookie score round 1
Option C if you want to go with a full deck

Williams can also be Duggan to avoid the rookie score R1 but think Williams is the better long term option of the two.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: shaker on March 14, 2021, 11:17:49 am
A) Williams & Dunkley
B) Stewart & Butters
C) Laird & Phillips
For me it can't be A need a good start to the season and points are gold so I would go B Stewart reliable and Butters is really proving he can score well.
P:S just reading your post above Duggan and Dunkley , Duggan pumped out some good scores in latter part of last season.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Woppa15 on March 14, 2021, 03:52:45 pm
Duggan vs Williams vs Witherden vs Docherty

Trying to find some value to make my $$$ stretch further, Iím short of filling a few rookie spots and suspect Iím too top heavy.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on March 14, 2021, 03:56:19 pm
Duggan vs Williams vs Witherden vs Docherty

Trying to find some value to make my $$$ stretch further, Iím short of filling a few rookie spots and suspect Iím too top heavy.

Docherty
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Fid on March 14, 2021, 04:30:42 pm
Duggan vs Williams vs Witherden vs Docherty

Trying to find some value to make my $$$ stretch further, Iím short of filling a few rookie spots and suspect Iím too top heavy.

Docherty

+1
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Samsturmfels on March 14, 2021, 05:06:18 pm
Lloyd + Rowell vs Daniel + Merrett
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: shaker on March 14, 2021, 05:14:28 pm
Lloyd + Rowell vs Daniel + Merrett
Easy one Daniel  + Merrett
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Samsturmfels on March 14, 2021, 05:21:51 pm
Lloyd + Rowell vs Daniel + Merrett
Easy one Daniel  + Merrett

thanks mate. For me i am still struggling to decide

DM scored on average 217.1 vs 224.6 LR. However Lloyd may be potential slightly overpriced and Rowell could potential be under-priced (but also overpriced).
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on March 14, 2021, 05:57:54 pm
Lloyd + Rowell vs Daniel + Merrett
Easy one Daniel  + Merrett

thanks mate. For me i am still struggling to decide

DM scored on average 217.1 vs 224.6 LR. However Lloyd may be potential slightly overpriced and Rowell could potential be under-priced (but also overpriced).

Lloyd & Merrett more chance to be keepers so there's that to consider.

As far as Neale goes, it all depends on how he starts, think he's 120 this year although I may be wrong. Risky leaving him out of course, but I think the Brisbane mids such as Berry & McCluggage will start to get a bigger slice of the pie.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Woppa15 on March 14, 2021, 11:11:57 pm
Lloyd + Rowell vs Daniel + Merrett
Easy one Daniel  + Merrett

thanks mate. For me i am still struggling to decide

DM scored on average 217.1 vs 224.6 LR. However Lloyd may be potential slightly overpriced and Rowell could potential be under-priced (but also overpriced).

Lloyd & Merrett more chance to be keepers so there's that to consider.

As far as Neale goes, it all depends on how he starts, think he's 120 this year although I may be wrong. Risky leaving him out of course, but I think the Brisbane mids such as Berry & McCluggage will start to get a bigger slice of the pie.

Just on that Neale comment Bully, is 120 enough to start him do you think? Or hope for a slow start and perhaps first upgrade?
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Mat0369 on March 14, 2021, 11:26:38 pm
If you don't start Neale, how do you plan on bringing him in? If he scores his average against each team leading up to the bye he won't drop under 600k using the Tooserious salary calculator. So if you plan on bringing him in early how do you plan on doing it? It's near impossible unless you're culling underperforming premiums and if you are it's a waste of a trade.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on March 15, 2021, 12:33:53 am
If you don't start Neale, how do you plan on bringing him in? If he scores his average against each team leading up to the bye he won't drop under 600k using the Tooserious salary calculator. So if you plan on bringing him in early how do you plan on doing it? It's near impossible unless you're culling underperforming premiums and if you are it's a waste of a trade.

It's a risk & the logistics will be difficult if he starts like he did last year. However, I'm not placing too much credence on last year's scores, they don't look right, not just for Neale but a host of others. I'm reasonably confident he'll dip below 650k & I'll back myself to grab him round 6 or 7. There's also injury to consider, in which case a sideways trade will be on the cards. Time will tell of course, I'm not oozing confidence but I know a slowish start might give me me a slight advantage. Don't think Neale & mid pricer will trump Cripps/Taranto in points or trades.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: j959 on March 15, 2021, 01:06:57 am
If you don't start Neale, how do you plan on bringing him in? If he scores his average against each team leading up to the bye he won't drop under 600k using the Tooserious salary calculator. So if you plan on bringing him in early how do you plan on doing it? It's near impossible unless you're culling underperforming premiums and if you are it's a waste of a trade.

It's a risk & the logistics will be difficult if he starts like he did last year. However, I'm not placing too much credence on last year's scores, they don't look right, not just for Neale but a host of others. I'm reasonably confident he'll dip below 650k & I'll back myself to grab him round 6 or 7. There's also injury to consider, in which case a sideways trade will be on the cards. Time will tell of course, I'm not oozing confidence but I know a slowish start might give me me a slight advantage. Don't think Neale & mid pricer will trump Cripps/Taranto in points or trades.
or Neale and a rook & using the money saved elsewhere?
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on March 15, 2021, 11:23:12 am
If you don't start Neale, how do you plan on bringing him in? If he scores his average against each team leading up to the bye he won't drop under 600k using the Tooserious salary calculator. So if you plan on bringing him in early how do you plan on doing it? It's near impossible unless you're culling underperforming premiums and if you are it's a waste of a trade.

It's a risk & the logistics will be difficult if he starts like he did last year. However, I'm not placing too much credence on last year's scores, they don't look right, not just for Neale but a host of others. I'm reasonably confident he'll dip below 650k & I'll back myself to grab him round 6 or 7. There's also injury to consider, in which case a sideways trade will be on the cards. Time will tell of course, I'm not oozing confidence but I know a slowish start might give me me a slight advantage. Don't think Neale & mid pricer will trump Cripps/Taranto in points or trades.
or Neale and a rook & using the money saved elsewhere?

(https://i.imgur.com/I4S6VNM.png)

Open to suggestions but can't see any way apart from a defender down to Clark, something I'm not too keen on.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: tommy10 on March 15, 2021, 12:55:09 pm
Possibly Short/Stewart to Williams/Duggan and upgrade Bont to Neale?
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on March 15, 2021, 01:13:10 pm
Possibly Short/Stewart to Williams/Duggan and upgrade Bont to Neale?

Bont to Neale will cost 98k, that means Short is out the question. Can do it with Stewart but that also entails copping a rookie score round 1 (if I take Williams). Not sold on Duggan, 50/50 to crack 95 this year but the West Coast midfield have some big names to return so it's fraught with risk. Thought about Witherden but would only take if I knew he would be the designated kick out guy.

Bont/Stewart vs Neale/Williams

Also need to scrap for another 10k which means downgrading another rookie. Not sure that's possible without cutting Briggs, that would effectively leave me without a loophole & ruck insurance.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: jfitty on March 15, 2021, 03:22:01 pm
Those that are going Flynn at R2, Gawn vs Grundy for first ruck?

Gawn worth the extra 100k?
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on March 15, 2021, 03:38:05 pm
Those that are going Flynn at R2, Gawn vs Grundy for first ruck?

Gawn worth the extra 100k?

The only flaw with this strategy is Flynn being supplanted by Briggs who is listed in defence/attack. Meek probably makes way for Darcy & Hunter will make way for Ryder. That leaves you in a difficult situation if the rookie rucks haven't made enough $$.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: hawkers65 on March 15, 2021, 07:36:33 pm
Lloyd and Phillips (swing to be a keeper FWD)
Or
Ridley and Cripps
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: B. on March 15, 2021, 09:08:41 pm
Short/Macrae v Daniel or Ridley/Dangerfield???
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Fid on March 15, 2021, 09:13:16 pm
Short/Macrae v Daniel or Ridley/Dangerfield???

Daniel/Dangerfield
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: B. on March 15, 2021, 09:23:56 pm
Short/Macrae v Daniel or Ridley/Dangerfield???

Daniel/Dangerfield

Cripps/Impey v Dangerfield (mid)/FWD rookie named
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Fid on March 15, 2021, 09:45:41 pm
Short/Macrae v Daniel or Ridley/Dangerfield???

Daniel/Dangerfield

Cripps/Impey v Dangerfield (mid)/FWD rookie named

I'd go the Dangerfield option, not that impressed with Impey
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Mat0369 on March 16, 2021, 12:41:00 am
Lloyd and Phillips (swing to be a keeper FWD)
Or
Ridley and Cripps

I like Ridley and Cripps as a combo but I think Lloyd is also a must.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: RoughRed on March 16, 2021, 12:52:42 am
Ridley vs Stewart
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Mat0369 on March 16, 2021, 12:53:54 am
I like both but Stewart is under priced due to his injury game. I'd have to go with Stewart in that situation.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: RoughRed on March 16, 2021, 12:56:17 am
I like both but Stewart is under priced due to his injury game. I'd have to go with Stewart in that situation.
Thanks Mat ...
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Mat0369 on March 16, 2021, 01:00:03 am
Thanks Mat ...

Can you manage to squeeze both in? They're both intercept players that take their teams kick outs. It's a pretty good combo for SC
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: RoughRed on March 16, 2021, 01:11:50 am
Thanks Mat ...

Can you manage to squeeze both in? They're both intercept players that take their teams kick outs. It's a pretty good combo for SC
Currently
Laird, Daniel, Stewart, Short, Clark, rook (rook rook)
Running GG as rucks so tapped out $-wise atm
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Slick5 on March 16, 2021, 09:39:38 am
Jordan Clark vs Hayden Young? Feels like Clark has the higher ceiling but Young the job security.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: IntegralX on March 16, 2021, 10:26:28 am
Jordan Clark vs Hayden Young? Feels like Clark has the higher ceiling but Young the job security.

I think Clark is the better option here, and I think his JS issues are being overstated honestly. Clark almost walked last offseason, don't forget that.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Ringo on March 16, 2021, 10:48:07 am
Jordan Clark vs Hayden Young? Feels like Clark has the higher ceiling but Young the job security.

I think Clark is the better option here, and I think his JS issues are being overstated honestly. Clark almost walked last offseason, don't forget that.
My opinion is if he stays in team when Duncan returns his JS is strong, I am starting Young and if Clark stays in team when Duncan returns may downgrade as a correction trade for Rd 3,
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Sabretooth Tigers on March 16, 2021, 01:26:20 pm
 ::)

Jye Caldwell  V  Zac Bailiey.  Purely in a scoring capability.  Price irrelevant. What's your opinion of Zac Ringo ?
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Ringo on March 16, 2021, 03:36:59 pm
Based on preseason form both Bailey and Ryner were the 2 projected to take game to next level. Taken in the 2017 draft and coming into 4th year when a lot tend to break out.  Will spend more time in the mids this year as has been said and possibly even more with Rayner injured.

Bailey scored 90SC points from 75% TOG with 2 goals and 3 frees against in the AAMI against Suns,  Has looked good in the intra club as well.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Tylo on March 16, 2021, 04:24:07 pm
Lachie Young v Wil Hamill v Connor Idun
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Samsturmfels on March 16, 2021, 05:28:58 pm
Lachie Young v Wil Hamill v Connor Idun
none
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Sabretooth Tigers on March 16, 2021, 05:31:49 pm
Based on preseason form both Bailey and Ryner were the 2 projected to take game to next level. Taken in the 2017 draft and coming into 4th year when a lot tend to break out.  Will spend more time in the mids this year as has been said and possibly even more with Rayner injured.

Bailey scored 90SC points from 75% TOG with 2 goals and 3 frees against in the AAMI against Suns,  Has looked good in the intra club as well.

Thanks Ringo. Appreciate the help. He's F3 atm             Danger, Dusty, Bailey, Ziebell, Daniher, Rowe //Brockman, Scott.
Cheers and the very best of British !!

 ;)
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Hazza09 on March 16, 2021, 05:43:47 pm
Worried about defensive rookies so Iím looking at bringing in J Clark at D5.

Current backline is: Laird, Llyod, Daniel, Short, L Jones, Highmore ( Kosi, Murray )

If I bring in Clark Iíll need to downgrade somewhere.
My options are:

Taranto
Rowell
Dusty
Short

and all 4 of those im iffy on trading out.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on March 16, 2021, 05:54:48 pm
Worried about defensive rookies so Iím looking at bringing in J Clark at D5.

Current backline is: Laird, Llyod, Daniel, Short, L Jones, Highmore ( Kosi, Murray )

If I bring in Clark Iíll need to downgrade somewhere.
My options are:

Taranto
Rowell
Dusty
Short

and all 4 of those im iffy on trading out.

Rowell would be the one. Put simply, he doesn't have the scoring history & he's coming back from shoulder surgery.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: whynot102 on March 16, 2021, 07:00:17 pm
Josh Kelly or Bont issue is have McCrae and Taranto or other choices
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Fid on March 16, 2021, 07:02:59 pm
Josh Kelly or Bont issue is have McCrae and Taranto or other choices

Bont.

Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: dmac07 on March 16, 2021, 07:28:47 pm
Butters vs Bolton vs DeGoey vs Phillips? For F2.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Samsturmfels on March 16, 2021, 07:30:43 pm
Butters vs Bolton vs DeGoey vs Phillips? For F2.
I really like Degoey but Butters may be safer pick.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Samsturmfels on March 16, 2021, 07:35:41 pm
If i require more cash for rookies, which trade would you do?
1) Rowell to Taranto
2) Neale to Merrett
3) Danger to Daniel/Ridley.

Im not sure if im comfortable with any of those trades. But at the moment im worried that im not going to have enough flexibility with my rookie selections. I have all the main popular rookies expected to play apart, its just the last two/three spots that may be tight for money if one of the 102k players arent picked apart from Scott.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: jfitty on March 16, 2021, 07:40:28 pm
If i require more cash for rookies, which trade would you do?
1) Rowell to Taranto
2) Neale to Merrett
3) Danger to Daniel/Ridley.

Im not sure if im comfortable with any of those trades. But at the moment im worried that im not going to have enough flexibility with my rookie selections. I have all the main popular rookies expected to play apart, its just the last two/three spots that may be tight for money if one of the 102k players arent picked apart from Scott.

Rowell to Taranto easily for mine
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Samsturmfels on March 16, 2021, 07:46:18 pm
If i require more cash for rookies, which trade would you do?
1) Rowell to Taranto
2) Neale to Merrett
3) Danger to Daniel/Ridley.

Im not sure if im comfortable with any of those trades. But at the moment im worried that im not going to have enough flexibility with my rookie selections. I have all the main popular rookies expected to play apart, its just the last two/three spots that may be tight for money if one of the 102k players arent picked apart from Scott.

thanks mate. Ill might just have to wait and see. Im looking at Bruhn. Although his SP is shower, his JS could be potentially really high with a number of smaller GWS players injured. Also i wouldnt be surprised if heath chapman plays considering all of the talls Freo are missing now.
Rowell to Taranto easily for mine
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: RoughRed on March 16, 2021, 08:23:07 pm
Butters vs Bolton vs DeGoey vs Phillips? For F2.
Butters for me
Bolton fighting for points in the Richmond team - they spread the point round
DeGoey does not seem to be able to stay on the park
Phillips just does not do it for me, new team and all but not convinced
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Money Shot on March 16, 2021, 08:23:51 pm
I hate that I have ended up in this position but....

Neale/Dunkley vs Oliver/Danger

In an ideal world Iíd be starting all 4 but loading up down back + Gawn/Grundy is making life difficult...
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: crowls on March 16, 2021, 08:29:03 pm
I hate that I have ended up in this position but....

Neale/Dunkley vs Oliver/Danger

In an ideal world Iíd be starting all 4 but loading up down back + Gawn/Grundy is making life difficult...
start all 4 and replace gawn with flynn.   go old school
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Money Shot on March 16, 2021, 08:35:58 pm
I hate that I have ended up in this position but....

Neale/Dunkley vs Oliver/Danger

In an ideal world Iíd be starting all 4 but loading up down back + Gawn/Grundy is making life difficult...
start all 4 and replace gawn with flynn.   go old school
Donít tempt me...
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on March 16, 2021, 08:56:12 pm
I hate that I have ended up in this position but....

Neale/Dunkley vs Oliver/Danger

In an ideal world Iíd be starting all 4 but loading up down back + Gawn/Grundy is making life difficult...

Neale & Dunkley I reckon although pretty line ball.

I hate that I have ended up in this position but....

Neale/Dunkley vs Oliver/Danger

In an ideal world Iíd be starting all 4 but loading up down back + Gawn/Grundy is making life difficult...
start all 4 and replace gawn with flynn.   go old school
Donít tempt me...

Don't do it, can all turn to shizen if Briggs assumes the primary ruck role.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: whynot102 on March 16, 2021, 09:54:09 pm
Oliver vs Steele
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Mat0369 on March 16, 2021, 10:05:28 pm
Oliver. Steele was the major beneficiary from the shortened games. He has struggled with his tank in previous seasons so it allowed him to play a larger percentage of games and saw his scoring go up.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: JBs-Hawks on March 16, 2021, 10:19:36 pm
Oliver. Steele was the major beneficiary from the shortened games. He has struggled with his tank in previous seasons so it allowed him to play a larger percentage of games and saw his scoring go up.

Or maybe he just raised his game to a new level last year.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Mat0369 on March 16, 2021, 10:31:14 pm
Or maybe he just raised his game to a new level last year.

Possible, but guys like Neale and Trac would be in the 90's while Steele is probably looking at 85% at best. With the games extending out I'd want to see how his tank goes back at the longer quarters before forking out 658k for him
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: smashbox on March 17, 2021, 07:23:26 am
Dan Houston vs Duggan
Tom Mitchell & Toby Greene vs Taranto & Dunkley
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: billnats on March 17, 2021, 07:44:29 am
Dan Houston vs Duggan
Tom Mitchell & Toby Greene vs Taranto & Dunkley
Duggan - only because Houston burnt me last year.
Taranto/Dunkley without hesitation
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: billnats on March 17, 2021, 07:45:58 am
A) Laird, Rowell, Forward Rookie @ F4
B) Duggan, Fyfe, Forward Rookie
C) Laird, Tyson, Phillips
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: RoughRed on March 17, 2021, 09:31:17 am
Dan Houston vs Duggan
Tom Mitchell & Toby Greene vs Taranto & Dunkley
My personal preference would be Duggan but imo no desernable difference between the two
Dunkley and Taranto for me. I question both TMitchell and TGreene capacity to play a full season.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Mat0369 on March 17, 2021, 09:52:42 am
Dan Houston vs Duggan
Tom Mitchell & Toby Greene vs Taranto & Dunkley

Houston for the first one

Second one is tough, I think the Mitchell/Greene combo could be a difference maker, I just don't trust Greene to stay on the park and we don't know how Mitchell will go after the off-season surgery. I'd probably lean towards option 2
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Mat0369 on March 17, 2021, 09:54:32 am
A) Laird, Rowell, Forward Rookie @ F4
B) Duggan, Fyfe, Forward Rookie
C) Laird, Tyson, Phillips

Probably option a. Laird is a much better than Duggan. Phillips doesn't move the needle for me. Fyfe I like over Rowell, but not enough to end up with Duggan instead of Laird.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: JBs-Hawks on March 17, 2021, 10:39:33 am
Or maybe he just raised his game to a new level last year.

Possible, but guys like Neale and Trac would be in the 90's while Steele is probably looking at 85% at best. With the games extending out I'd want to see how his tank goes back at the longer quarters before forking out 658k for him

So your saying petracca has a better tank then steele? Anything to back this up?
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: barlowlove on March 17, 2021, 01:34:53 pm
Dusty vs Dunkley?
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Samsturmfels on March 17, 2021, 01:37:06 pm
Dusty vs Dunkley?
Dunks but both fine options.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Mat0369 on March 17, 2021, 02:08:34 pm
So your saying petracca has a better tank then steele? Anything to back this up?

Trac played 90.1% TOG last year. It was 4th in the AFL behind Gaff, Neale and Langdon. He looked in peak condition last year running both offensively and defensively and that's a large reason his points spiked. He probably rested forward more than what Steele did, but Trac was a machine last year.

I was shocked to see Steele up to 85.4 which was higher than Cripps, Macrae and Danger (all 85.1%).

I just had a quick scan over Steele's 2019 and there are a lot of 75-80% TOG through the middle of the season, but he actually started the season quite high which I found surprising looking at the numbers. In the last portion he pushes that up to 85-90% which is ideal for a gun mid.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Hazza09 on March 17, 2021, 02:29:39 pm
Canít make my mind up with the following players, one day out and starting to panic.

Murray ( or a equivalent D8 ), Taranto, Briggs, Waterman
Vs
J Clark, Ziebell, J Jordon ( or a equivalent M10 ), Warner

I could change Warner to Fullarton who Iím starting to warm too.
Even though I rate Taranto I need to bring in a D5 as Iím starting to get the feeling that L Jones might not get selected.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Mat0369 on March 17, 2021, 02:31:27 pm
Option 1 gives you a potential keeper but zero cash gen. Option 2 I feel gives you more cash gen and a couple of guys that will be decent stepping stones. I would go with option 2.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: tommy10 on March 17, 2021, 02:44:52 pm
Canít make my mind up with the following players, one day out and starting to panic.

Murray ( or a equivalent D8 ), Taranto, Briggs, Waterman
Vs
J Clark, Ziebell, J Jordon ( or a equivalent M10 ), Warner

I could change Warner to Fullarton who Iím starting to warm too.
Even though I rate Taranto I need to bring in a D5 as Iím starting to get the feeling that L Jones might not get selected.
Option 2 - if Warner doesn't play then you could downgrade him. It'll be interesting to see if Waterman is named....only played a quarter I think in the AAMI game, so not very confident on him. You can pick up Briggs as a fwd too (depending on your backs).
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Hazza09 on March 17, 2021, 02:50:09 pm
Option 1 gives you a potential keeper but zero cash gen. Option 2 I feel gives you more cash gen and a couple of guys that will be decent stepping stones. I would go with option 2.

Yes I agree, replacing Taranto basically with Ziebell and improving my rookies.
I donít really like the idea of it but with limited defensive rookies Iíve had to go Llyod, Laird, Daniel, Short and now J Clark.
Just canít see how itís going to be possibly to go with a D5 and D6 defensive positions with rookies.

I could replace Taranto with Rowell, but I love Rowellís game for SC over Tarantoís.

The other option was to go Dusty to Dunkley but I just canít make my mind up on that one too.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: RoughRed on March 17, 2021, 03:17:46 pm
Grundy + Walsh + $15k
Vs
Neale + Draper + $106k
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Mat0369 on March 17, 2021, 03:51:03 pm
Yes I agree, replacing Taranto basically with Ziebell and improving my rookies.
I donít really like the idea of it but with limited defensive rookies Iíve had to go Llyod, Laird, Daniel, Short and now J Clark.
Just canít see how itís going to be possibly to go with a D5 and D6 defensive positions with rookies.

I could replace Taranto with Rowell, but I love Rowellís game for SC over Tarantoís.

The other option was to go Dusty to Dunkley but I just canít make my mind up on that one too.

I'm personally taking Taranto. A lot of guys tend to break out in year 5 (which Taranto is coming into his 5th season now) and last year was a bit of a wash with the injury. The season before that he won a best and fairest in a team that made the GF before going huge on the big stage. Rowell should be clear of his injury but we have no idea how he will adjust to the tag since the one game he did get tagged he busted his shoulder instantly.

Grundy + Walsh + $15k
Vs
Neale + Draper + $106k

I don't like the Draper pick. You need him to average 95-100 to be a decent stepping stone in the ruck. I feel Grundy and Walsh at least gives you two keepers.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: SilverLion on March 17, 2021, 04:48:02 pm
Caldwell + Ziebell vs. Campbell + Bailey
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: tkringle on March 17, 2021, 05:20:51 pm
Daniel vs Short?

Canít have both..
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Money Shot on March 17, 2021, 05:21:56 pm
Daniel vs Short?

Canít have both..
I like Daniel!

I donít think many people would be considering Short if he didnít have his 160
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: JBs-Hawks on March 17, 2021, 05:37:14 pm
So your saying petracca has a better tank then steele? Anything to back this up?

Trac played 90.1% TOG last year. It was 4th in the AFL behind Gaff, Neale and Langdon. He looked in peak condition last year running both offensively and defensively and that's a large reason his points spiked. He probably rested forward more than what Steele did, but Trac was a machine last year.

I was shocked to see Steele up to 85.4 which was higher than Cripps, Macrae and Danger (all 85.1%).

I just had a quick scan over Steele's 2019 and there are a lot of 75-80% TOG through the middle of the season, but he actually started the season quite high which I found surprising looking at the numbers. In the last portion he pushes that up to 85-90% which is ideal for a gun mid.

You do realise they donít just go off when there tired? They go off when the coaches tell them to with rotations...
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: whynot102 on March 17, 2021, 07:21:43 pm
Dow or Dom Tyson
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Hoggyz_a_legend on March 17, 2021, 08:29:04 pm
Dow or Dom Tyson

I'm going Tyson. Both having iffy JS, both butchwr it a bit, but Tyson can at least get 20+ touches and hit the scoreboard.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: IntegralX on March 17, 2021, 08:33:34 pm
Fantasia+Dow vs Caldwell+Fullarton?
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on March 17, 2021, 08:47:51 pm
Daniel vs Short?

Canít have both..
I like Daniel!

I donít think many people would be considering Short if he didnít have his 160

True to a degree, I think he's fair weight with some potential to crack the ton, probably need to see how Houli is managed in his final season. Think he will take a fair chunk of the kick outs too.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Sabretooth Tigers on March 17, 2021, 10:27:21 pm
 ::)

Tom Stewart   v   Callum Mills

 :-\
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on March 17, 2021, 10:44:54 pm
::)

Tom Stewart   v   Callum Mills

 :-\

Tom
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Woppa15 on March 18, 2021, 08:17:48 am
Dow vs Daniher?
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: tommy10 on March 18, 2021, 08:48:38 am
Dow vs Daniher?
Joey
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: bkimm32 on March 18, 2021, 09:10:05 am
Oliver. Steele was the major beneficiary from the shortened games. He has struggled with his tank in previous seasons so it allowed him to play a larger percentage of games and saw his scoring go up.
Steele has struggled with his tank in previous seasons...?

Lol what
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: bkimm32 on March 18, 2021, 09:14:08 am
Or maybe he just raised his game to a new level last year.

Possible, but guys like Neale and Trac would be in the 90's while Steele is probably looking at 85% at best. With the games extending out I'd want to see how his tank goes back at the longer quarters before forking out 658k for him

Wait.....

Did you really just say Jack Steele is going to struggle with running out full length games but CHRISTIAN PETRACCA will benefit from them???


Dude, you should not give fantasy advice lmao
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: bkimm32 on March 18, 2021, 09:23:52 am
So your saying petracca has a better tank then steele? Anything to back this up?

Trac played 90.1% TOG last year. It was 4th in the AFL behind Gaff, Neale and Langdon. He looked in peak condition last year running both offensively and defensively and that's a large reason his points spiked. He probably rested forward more than what Steele did, but Trac was a machine last year.

I was shocked to see Steele up to 85.4 which was higher than Cripps, Macrae and Danger (all 85.1%).

I just had a quick scan over Steele's 2019 and there are a lot of 75-80% TOG through the middle of the season, but he actually started the season quite high which I found surprising looking at the numbers. In the last portion he pushes that up to 85-90% which is ideal for a gun mid.

You do realise they donít just go off when there tired? They go off when the coaches tell them to with rotations...
Lol I donít think this guy he ever played football before

And heís crazy if he thinks Jack Steele isnít going to spend 75% game time in the centre square this season with 10-15+% resting forward with as little time as possible rotating on the bench, being the captain and all this season, they will want his leadership on field as much as possible.

I mean will Steele score more than Petracca and Oliver? Iím not sure, maybe, maybe not... but fitness, aerobic capacity, TOG etc will not play a factor in that at all.

And either way 85% to 84.5% TOG or whatever numbers Mat gave is so marginal that itís not even close being a determining factor when choosing premiums anyway....
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on March 18, 2021, 10:38:30 am
Just so we don't get confused here -

Steele Sidebottom - elite endurance
Jack Steele - more a power athlete but is slowly improving his tank
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: IntegralX on March 18, 2021, 10:55:12 am
I canít believe Iím at this point but...

Lloyd/Butters/Hunter

Vs

Stewart/Dusty/Flynn + 25k

That 25k extra enables me to fix both Murray and Bergman if neither are named...
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on March 18, 2021, 11:08:30 am
I canít believe Iím at this point but...

Lloyd/Butters/Hunter

Vs

Stewart/Dusty/Flynn + 25k

That 25k extra enables me to fix both Murray and Bergman if neither are named...

Last option, particularly given you get better rookies ie. Briggs
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: billnats on March 18, 2021, 11:17:20 am
Taranto hasnít moved from my team from day 1 but last minute thoughts:
A) Taranto, Rowell, Butters
B) Tyson, Kelly/Fyfe, Dunkley
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on March 18, 2021, 11:20:15 am
Taranto hasnít moved from my team from day 1 but last minute thoughts:
A) Taranto, Rowell, Butters
B) Tyson, Kelly/Fyfe, Dunkley

Option B, two keepers in all probability
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: SilverLion on March 18, 2021, 11:22:52 am
Caldwell + Ziebell vs. Campbell + Bailey
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: billnats on March 18, 2021, 11:28:31 am
Taranto hasnít moved from my team from day 1 but last minute thoughts:
A) Taranto, Rowell, Butters
B) Tyson, Kelly/Fyfe, Dunkley

Option B, two keepers in all probability
Fyfe or Kelly?
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on March 18, 2021, 11:42:25 am
Taranto hasnít moved from my team from day 1 but last minute thoughts:
A) Taranto, Rowell, Butters
B) Tyson, Kelly/Fyfe, Dunkley

Option B, two keepers in all probability
Fyfe or Kelly?

Kelly but both come with injury risk. My concern with Fyfe is he'll be expected to spend more time forward in the early rounds, particularly with Treacy out.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Hoggyz_a_legend on March 18, 2021, 01:40:23 pm
I have two that I'm super stumped on:

Walsh vs Cripps- Cripps has runs on the board but forward time worries me.

Macrae vs Oliver- both have a high floor and ceiling, but can only fit one into my team.

What does everyone think?
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: TexR74 on March 18, 2021, 01:45:05 pm
I have two that I'm super stumped on:

Walsh vs Cripps- Cripps has runs on the board but forward time worries me.

Macrae vs Oliver- both have a high floor and ceiling, but can only fit one into my team.

What does everyone think?

Walsh and Macrae
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: TexR74 on March 18, 2021, 01:46:07 pm
Harmes or Jiath?
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: RoughRed on March 18, 2021, 01:46:55 pm
I have two that I'm super stumped on:

Walsh vs Cripps- Cripps has runs on the board but forward time worries me.

Macrae vs Oliver- both have a high floor and ceiling, but can only fit one into my team.

What does everyone think?
Walsh + Macrae
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on March 18, 2021, 01:47:29 pm
I have two that I'm super stumped on:

Walsh vs Cripps- Cripps has runs on the board but forward time worries me.

Macrae vs Oliver- both have a high floor and ceiling, but can only fit one into my team.

What does everyone think?

Cripps, think you have to go with previous scoring history.

Macrae, three consecutive 120 seasons whereas Oliver has only 1 (in a season with reduced match time)
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Keeper27 on March 18, 2021, 01:58:25 pm
Rowell or Toranto
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Hoggyz_a_legend on March 18, 2021, 02:04:02 pm
Harmes or Jiath?

Of the two, I'd say Jiath. But Webster, Fantasia, Young and Clark are better options around the same price imo.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on March 18, 2021, 02:12:54 pm
Rowell or Toranto

Taranto, don't like picking guys coming off serious injury
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Fid on March 18, 2021, 02:52:35 pm
Cox V Dow ??
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on March 18, 2021, 03:13:57 pm
Cox V Dow ??

Cox, good chance to make some cash at D7/8
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: acroyale on March 18, 2021, 03:17:07 pm
lloyd & saunders (donut)

 v

Howe/short/McDonald & daniher/dow/impey
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Fid on March 18, 2021, 03:17:19 pm
Cox V Dow ??

Cox, good chance to make some cash at D7/8

Thanks mate, and probably a good swing option with Briggs
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on March 18, 2021, 03:22:17 pm
Cox V Dow ??

Cox, good chance to make some cash at D7/8

Thanks mate, and probably a good swing option with Briggs

Yep, roving loophole very handy.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Wanderer on March 18, 2021, 03:25:06 pm
Danger + Taranto
Vs
Dunkley + Rowell
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on March 18, 2021, 03:26:17 pm
lloyd & saunders (donut)

 v

Howe/short/McDonald & daniher/dow/impey

Short & Daniher
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: tommy10 on March 18, 2021, 03:54:35 pm
Danger + Taranto
Vs
Dunkley + Rowell
Danger & Taranto
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: whynot102 on March 18, 2021, 07:02:24 pm
Is Oliver to Adams then fwd rookie to Dow worth it or could go Tyson to Dow or just hold
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Colliwobblers on March 18, 2021, 07:04:39 pm
depends if dow breaks out, named on ball, personally id take the best rooks over him and probably him over the worst rooks. he's a gamble but a cheap one. and adams could match oliver so that side of it is no big issue.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on March 18, 2021, 07:04:57 pm
Is Oliver to Adams then fwd rookie to Dow worth it or could go Tyson to Dow or just hold

If Dow slays it then I'm open to trading Daniher or Ziebell but I don't think he's worth a restructure
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Colliwobblers on March 18, 2021, 07:06:40 pm
Danger + Taranto
Vs
Dunkley + Rowell
Danger & Taranto

agree but just. i just turned rowell into cripps, such a big ask 2nd year, almost first year to sustain the level, not get injured again, and he's not exactly basement price (rowell).

Love dunkley tho. nothing to stop you going dunkley - tarranto and having cash for possible rook improvements
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: tommy10 on March 18, 2021, 07:20:24 pm
Lloyd & Dow vs Short/Doch & Phillips
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Maca24 on March 18, 2021, 11:49:51 pm
Lloyd & Dow vs Short/Doch & Phillips
Short + Phillips

Dunkley, Bontempelli, H.Young
Vs
Rowell, De Goey, C.Daniel
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on March 19, 2021, 12:06:47 am
Lloyd & Dow vs Short/Doch & Phillips
Short + Phillips

Dunkley, Bontempelli, H.Young
Vs
Rowell, De Goey, C.Daniel

Top, Daniel I like but Rowell has only 5 games to his name & is coming back from injury. Bont looks in ripping form & Dogs have quite a few winnable games coming up.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Mat0369 on March 19, 2021, 01:08:26 am
You do realise they donít just go off when there tired? They go off when the coaches tell them to with rotations...

Yes I do. But you also realise that the rotations are mostly predetermined and based off what the sports scientists say to get the maximum value out of guys? They will spend longer stints on the bench to get their breath back or they will rotate heavily to try and keep them fresh. Hence why you get guys going off the ground after they have kicked a goal. A perfect example of this is Nic Nat. They'll run him under 70% TOG because he is fresher and has a larger impact.

Steele has struggled with his tank in previous seasons...?

Lol what

It was a common complaint by guys that had him in their team. I actually found the numbers by season. 2017 he averaged 75.6%, 2018 he averaged 79.3%, 2019 it was 84.35 and 2020 it was 85.47. The 2019 percentage is actually a lot better than I originally thought it would be.

Wait.....

Did you really just say Jack Steele is going to struggle with running out full length games but CHRISTIAN PETRACCA will benefit from them???


Dude, you should not give fantasy advice lmao

No, I said Jack Steele has struggled to run out full length games in the past. The shorter length games would have helped these burst players that don't have elite endurance as they're on longer in the shorter form and can in turn get a larger percentage of the points than they would have in the past. Someone like Lachie Neale will still see 90% TOG, as will Christian Petracca as he will rest forward rather than on the bench like Dusty did tonight. Trac also improved his endurance running tenfold last offseason and it was visible from the get go and it allowed him to play majority midfield which he wasn't capable of in the past. Jack Macrae played 85% game time last year and will probably play 85% this year. That's a possible extra 13 minutes of game time he will be on for this year. In an extra 13 minutes per game I think Macrae could see a spike.

Lol I donít think this guy he ever played football before

And heís crazy if he thinks Jack Steele isnít going to spend 75% game time in the centre square this season with 10-15+% resting forward with as little time as possible rotating on the bench, being the captain and all this season, they will want his leadership on field as much as possible.

I mean will Steele score more than Petracca and Oliver? Iím not sure, maybe, maybe not... but fitness, aerobic capacity, TOG etc will not play a factor in that at all.

And either way 85% to 84.5% TOG or whatever numbers Mat gave is so marginal that itís not even close being a determining factor when choosing premiums anyway....

Again, you're looking at this completely wrong. My argument is that if a guy was running at 78% game time and suddenly jumped up to 85% with the shorter quarters I'd like to see him perform at a high level when the game has stretched out to full length again if I'm spending 658k. The numbers will be inflated for these players and jumping from 95 to 122 could be because of this. The positive for Steele is he was running out 85% of the full length games the previous year so he may be a chance to maintain that average but I likely see him dropping back. Oliver has had 3 seasons around the 110 mark so there is less risk in picking him because you know you'll likely get at least that.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Qwerty7698 on March 19, 2021, 10:28:14 am
H Jones v Henry
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Mat0369 on March 19, 2021, 10:48:35 am
Jones will probably get a better run and is a little cheaper
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: SilverLion on March 19, 2021, 12:06:31 pm
Caldwell + Ziebell vs. Campbell + Bailey

Also:

P Hunter + 1 of Gulden/Berry/Downie/Brockman/Powell

vs.

Meek + McNeil instead of one of Gulden/Berry/Downie/Brockman/Powell
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Mat0369 on March 19, 2021, 12:20:55 pm
I'd rather go Campbell and Ziebell even though that's not a choice.

I'd also take Hunter and Powell or Gulden
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: SilverLion on March 19, 2021, 12:24:48 pm
I'd rather go Campbell and Ziebell even though that's not a choice.

I'd also take Hunter and Powell or Gulden
ty

Yeah I've got all those rookies listed, would just need to 'downgrade' one to McNeil to go Hunter up to Meek.

Didn't wanna go both Campbell+Ziebell as I've already got Daniher+Impey :P
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Mat0369 on March 19, 2021, 12:27:26 pm
I feel the cash gen opportunity is too good to pass up with both those guys. Ziebell could also turn into a F6/F7 keeper. I'm trying to pick the guys that I think will make me the most cash as quickly as possible and I think Campbell and Ziebell fit that category
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Wanderer on March 19, 2021, 01:58:16 pm
Ridley v Caleb?
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: ants on March 19, 2021, 01:59:03 pm
This one is doing my head in.
Macrae, Rowell, Flynn, harrison Jones, and Mcneil
vs
Gawn, Daniher, B Campbell, powell and warner
so 1 prem and better rookies vs 2 prem
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: ants on March 19, 2021, 02:10:45 pm
caleb
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Wanderer on March 19, 2021, 02:19:33 pm
This one is doing my head in.
Macrae, Rowell, Flynn, harrison Jones, and Mcneil
vs
Gawn, Daniher, B Campbell, powell and warner
so 1 prem and better rookies vs 2 prem
I would feel more comfortable with the Gawn option. If you still have Flynn on your bench under the Gawn option, then the rookies seem to be a lot more solid than the Macrae option. I think Daniher, Campbell, Powell are must haves, Warner right up there, and Flynn of course. You have to also consider what if Rowell doesn't become a top 10 keeper. You also have to find the cash later on to get Gawn into your side if he dominates like we expect him to.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: jfitty on March 19, 2021, 05:06:36 pm
How about Fullerton vs Jones?

Bergman over both if he gets named, but feeling that he won't

Also Butts vs Cox? (hehe)
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Mat0369 on March 19, 2021, 05:17:41 pm
Butts down back. Had him in my team but I worry once Doedee is back if his role changes.

I'd probably take Jones because if you're going the slow burn option you may as well get one with longer term job security
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on March 19, 2021, 05:18:18 pm
How about Fullerton vs Jones?

Bergman over both if he gets named, but feeling that he won't

Also Butts vs Cox? (hehe)

Fullerton has a bit more breathing space, minimum 2 price rises I think. No expert on strained medials but McStay won't be doing a hell of a lot of running for a couple of weeks.

Port boys are tricky, Hartlett comes back too. I reckon you would have to bench them with a view they will be in and out.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Mat0369 on March 19, 2021, 05:22:29 pm
He was referring to Harrison Jones not Lachie I believe.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: jfitty on March 19, 2021, 05:28:08 pm
How about Fullerton vs Jones?

Bergman over both if he gets named, but feeling that he won't

Also Butts vs Cox? (hehe)

Fullerton has a bit more breathing space, minimum 2 price rises I think. No expert on strained medials but McStay won't be doing a hell of a lot of running for a couple of weeks.

Port boys are tricky, Hartlett comes back too. I reckon you would have to bench them with a view they will be in and out.

Thanks lads!

Harry Jones is the one I meant - feel he could be a slow burn, but possibly staying in the team longer than Fullerton will?
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on March 19, 2021, 05:35:22 pm
How about Fullerton vs Jones?

Bergman over both if he gets named, but feeling that he won't

Also Butts vs Cox? (hehe)

Fullerton has a bit more breathing space, minimum 2 price rises I think. No expert on strained medials but McStay won't be doing a hell of a lot of running for a couple of weeks.

Port boys are tricky, Hartlett comes back too. I reckon you would have to bench them with a view they will be in and out.

Thanks lads!

Harry Jones is the one I meant - feel he could be a slow burn, but possibly staying in the team longer than Fullerton will?

Honestly don't have much of a clue where Essendon is concerned. If they are in rebuild mode then he probably gets a decent run, having an interrupted first year not great however, especially with fewer rotations. Slow burn absolutely, probably need 8 games.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Wanderer on March 19, 2021, 06:45:12 pm
Now with Downie not playing:

Sharp (Def/Mid) vs Berry (Mid)?
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: smashbox on March 19, 2021, 06:52:38 pm
Fyfe vs Mitchell vs Kelly
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: hawkers65 on March 19, 2021, 06:52:44 pm
Now with Downie not playing:

Sharp (Def/Mid) vs Berry (Mid)?

Berry


In 5k short on Stewart which is tragic so

Houston or McDonald? Always liked both as POD's I just didn't have the stones when I could afford Stewart.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Wanderer on March 19, 2021, 07:10:56 pm
Now with Downie not playing:

Sharp (Def/Mid) vs Berry (Mid)?

Berry


In 5k short on Stewart which is tragic so

Houston or McDonald? Always liked both as POD's I just didn't have the stones when I could afford Stewart.

I have McDonald FWIW. I watched him play the pre-season game and apart from not doing much in first qtr, he started doing what he did last year and racking up possessions in the last 3 qtrs. That's all I needed to see. Yes, his score was low due to poor disposal efficiency, but his role seems to be the same. Walsh had a low score in preseason game due to poor disposal efficiency but got a lot of it, so I think McDonald will do the same as Walsh did when the real stuff starts. McDonald was a massive POD for me last year and I'm backing him in again. I am not worried about Ziebel impacting him.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Wanderer on March 19, 2021, 07:12:21 pm
Fyfe vs Mitchell vs Kelly
Mitchell only because he is way more durable and seems the safest pick.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on March 19, 2021, 07:28:47 pm
Now with Downie not playing:

Sharp (Def/Mid) vs Berry (Mid)?

Sharp given the shortage of rookie defenders, he's a steeple chaser which I also like.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: smashbox on March 19, 2021, 07:36:02 pm
Scott vs berry
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Hazza09 on March 19, 2021, 07:38:29 pm
Scott as a Emergency or Rowe / Berry?
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: tommy10 on March 19, 2021, 07:44:32 pm
Scott vs berry
Can you get both? If not, probably Berry
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: SilverLion on March 20, 2021, 12:16:29 am
Meek vs. Hunter (R3)
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Mat0369 on March 20, 2021, 12:38:53 am
Hunter
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: RoughRed on March 20, 2021, 10:53:02 am
Neale + Daniher + $50.2K
v
Oliver + Caldwell

Neale gives another captain/vice captain option to match up with Gawn!
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Ringo on March 20, 2021, 11:06:10 am
Neale and Daniher as you say extra c/vc options with rucks appearing to not be as high scoring this year.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: HoleMeal on March 20, 2021, 12:06:11 pm
Hunter v Flynn
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: jfitty on March 20, 2021, 12:13:28 pm
Hunter v Flynn

Flynn here
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Hazza09 on March 20, 2021, 12:14:51 pm
Berry vs Downie
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on March 20, 2021, 12:23:07 pm
Berry vs Downie

Downie listed as emergency so Berry
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: tkringle on March 20, 2021, 12:24:42 pm
Impey or Daniher?
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on March 20, 2021, 12:29:06 pm
Impey or Daniher?

Daniher
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Mat0369 on March 20, 2021, 12:29:48 pm
I've got both but if I had to pick one it would be Daniher. He has a higher ceiling which is better for cash gen
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Wanderer on March 20, 2021, 12:32:03 pm
Impey or Daniher?
Impey scoring will be more consistent, but Daniher has the higher ceiling. If the extra $20k saved on Impey doesn't help you elsewhere, then Daniher is the way to go IMO.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: tkringle on March 20, 2021, 02:57:53 pm
Impey or Daniher?
Impey scoring will be more consistent, but Daniher has the higher ceiling. If the extra $20k saved on Impey doesn't help you elsewhere, then Daniher is the way to go IMO.

The 20K by going Impey will let me correct McNeil to Jordon before round 3. Think thatís worth it.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Wanderer on March 20, 2021, 03:00:24 pm
Impey or Daniher?
Impey scoring will be more consistent, but Daniher has the higher ceiling. If the extra $20k saved on Impey doesn't help you elsewhere, then Daniher is the way to go IMO.

The 20K by going Impey will let me correct McNeil to Jordon before round 3. Think thatís worth it.

That sounds like the way to go.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: smashbox on March 20, 2021, 07:21:38 pm
Fullerton or Bergman
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on March 20, 2021, 07:23:23 pm
Fullerton or Bergman

Bergman I think, Port tend to give the youngsters a decent shot.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: jfitty on March 20, 2021, 07:34:31 pm
Fullerton or Bergman

Definitely Bergman
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Samsturmfels on March 22, 2021, 10:00:17 pm
Ridley v Dusty
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: bunyips on March 22, 2021, 10:07:18 pm
Ridley v Dusty

Dusty
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: bunyips on March 22, 2021, 10:10:12 pm
If danger gets more than three weeks Iím torn between these guys:

Mills vs Zorko

Trading Mills obviously means Iím shuffling players
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Colliwobblers on March 23, 2021, 12:20:47 am
Mills looked GREAT.

Zorko had 114 with 6 clangers and 5 free kicks against,  that's 44 points off his score so 158.

That doesn't really help you does it :)

Can't go wrong.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Ringo on March 23, 2021, 10:24:37 am
Can not go wrong with either. Zorko benefited from the work Swans out into Neale and this may not be always the case.

Zorko needs to control his aggression especially as already been fined this year to avoid suspension.

Mills looked great in new role and in saying that Lions defence was pathetic so would like to see another week from Mills for true gauge but unfortunately do not have that option.

That is a little bit of the contra for both but as been said toss a coin.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Samsturmfels on March 23, 2021, 03:45:32 pm
Ridley v Dusty

Dusty
Thanks mate. I'm still undecided what I'm gonna do I could do the following
-Danger/Rowell to
1) Walsh and Dusty
2) Walsh and Ridley
3) Titch and Taranto (plus about 50k in bank instead of 25k).
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Wanderer on March 23, 2021, 04:02:39 pm
Ridley v Dusty

Dusty
Thanks mate. I'm still undecided what I'm gonna do I could do the following
-Danger/Rowell to
1) Walsh and Dusty
2) Walsh and Ridley
3) Titch and Taranto (plus about 50k in bank instead of 25k).

Have you looked into which option is best for your bye structure?
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on March 23, 2021, 04:50:34 pm
Ridley v Dusty

Dusty
Thanks mate. I'm still undecided what I'm gonna do I could do the following
-Danger/Rowell to
1) Walsh and Dusty
2) Walsh and Ridley
3) Titch and Taranto (plus about 50k in bank instead of 25k).

I like option 3, you get a top10 mid & a guy who should crack the ton & be suitable for M8. The cash will be handy for rookie corrections.

Walsh & Dusty still great picks but I suspect Dusty will have his days where he spends most of the time forward, hence more obtainable.

Ridley does look good but one season doesn't maketh the man.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Samsturmfels on March 23, 2021, 04:51:46 pm
Ridley v Dusty

Dusty
Thanks mate. I'm still undecided what I'm gonna do I could do the following
-Danger/Rowell to
1) Walsh and Dusty
2) Walsh and Ridley
3) Titch and Taranto (plus about 50k in bank instead of 25k).

Have you looked into which option is best for your bye structure?
to be honest atm im more focused on which picks will score the most points for me. Bye structure will change quite alot before the byes.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Samsturmfels on March 23, 2021, 04:53:12 pm
Ridley v Dusty

Dusty
Thanks mate. I'm still undecided what I'm gonna do I could do the following
-Danger/Rowell to
1) Walsh and Dusty
2) Walsh and Ridley
3) Titch and Taranto (plus about 50k in bank instead of 25k).

I like option 3, you get a top10 mid & a guy who should crack the ton & be suitable for M8. The cash will be handy for rookie corrections.

Walsh & Dusty still great picks but I suspect Dusty will have his days where he spends most of the time forward, hence more obtainable.

Ridley does look good but one season doesn't maketh the man.
Thanks mate. I do like option 2 because it gives me Titch, however i am worried that Taranto will spend too much time forward.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on March 23, 2021, 05:01:46 pm
Ridley v Dusty

Dusty
Thanks mate. I'm still undecided what I'm gonna do I could do the following
-Danger/Rowell to
1) Walsh and Dusty
2) Walsh and Ridley
3) Titch and Taranto (plus about 50k in bank instead of 25k).

I like option 3, you get a top10 mid & a guy who should crack the ton & be suitable for M8. The cash will be handy for rookie corrections.

Walsh & Dusty still great picks but I suspect Dusty will have his days where he spends most of the time forward, hence more obtainable.

Ridley does look good but one season doesn't maketh the man.
Thanks mate. I do like option 2 because it gives me Titch, however i am worried that Taranto will spend too much time forward.

Taranto could actually benefit from being forward but I suppose we need to see that on the scoreboard.

The other option is Titch/Zorko, do you have the funds for this?
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Wanderer on March 23, 2021, 05:34:26 pm
Ridley v Dusty

Dusty
Thanks mate. I'm still undecided what I'm gonna do I could do the following
-Danger/Rowell to
1) Walsh and Dusty
2) Walsh and Ridley
3) Titch and Taranto (plus about 50k in bank instead of 25k).
How about Titch and Zac Williams (or Hunter Clark)?
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on March 23, 2021, 05:39:08 pm
Ridley v Dusty

Dusty
Thanks mate. I'm still undecided what I'm gonna do I could do the following
-Danger/Rowell to
1) Walsh and Dusty
2) Walsh and Ridley
3) Titch and Taranto (plus about 50k in bank instead of 25k).
How about Titch and Zac Williams (or Hunter Clark)?

Don't mind that suggestion either.

I think the goal here should be getting two keepers who are vying for top 10 in their respective lines. I'd even entertain going Sidebottom/Dusty as I think there's a strong chance they finish top 6 forwards.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Wanderer on March 23, 2021, 06:58:05 pm
Ridley v Dusty

Dusty
Thanks mate. I'm still undecided what I'm gonna do I could do the following
-Danger/Rowell to
1) Walsh and Dusty
2) Walsh and Ridley
3) Titch and Taranto (plus about 50k in bank instead of 25k).
How about Titch and Zac Williams (or Hunter Clark)?

Don't mind that suggestion either.

I think the goal here should be getting two keepers who are vying for top 10 in their respective lines. I'd even entertain going Sidebottom/Dusty as I think there's a strong chance they finish top 6 forwards.

If Sidey can stay on the park, he will be top 6-8 forward easily, and we all know Dusty is going to be one of the best.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: whynot102 on March 23, 2021, 08:40:05 pm
Heppell/Dusty or McGrath Stephenson
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on March 23, 2021, 08:49:38 pm
Heppell/Dusty or McGrath Stephenson

Heppell/Dusty

Less risk, 1 absolute keeper & a really nice stepping stone to a Neale or Oliver.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: jfitty on March 23, 2021, 09:41:51 pm
Ranked 593rd so Iím going to trade hard and make a run.

Need to ditch Danger (already have the usual suspects Titch, Martin, Dunkley), and also have Nik Cox at D5 which is a problem.

Which should I do:

Danger > Ridley
Cox > Logan McDonald, Warner or maybe Fin Macrae if named

OR

Danger > Sidey (POD) and give Cox another week?

Fairly happy with the rest of the team, McNeil at M11 but not concerned.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on March 23, 2021, 09:54:27 pm
Ranked 593rd so Iím going to trade hard and make a run.

Need to ditch Danger (already have the usual suspects Titch, Martin, Dunkley), and also have Nik Cox at D5 which is a problem.

Which should I do:

Danger > Ridley
Cox > Logan McDonald, Warner or maybe Fin Macrae if named

OR

Danger > Sidey (POD) and give Cox another week?

Fairly happy with the rest of the team, McNeil at M11 but not concerned.

If you have a rookie at D5 I'd get a premo in quick smart. Watched Ridley and he looked sharp, long penetrating kicking. The only concern would be future lock down roles, not sure how the Bombers plan on using him.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: jfitty on March 23, 2021, 10:05:33 pm
Ranked 593rd so Iím going to trade hard and make a run.

Need to ditch Danger (already have the usual suspects Titch, Martin, Dunkley), and also have Nik Cox at D5 which is a problem.

Which should I do:

Danger > Ridley
Cox > Logan McDonald, Warner or maybe Fin Macrae if named

OR

Danger > Sidey (POD) and give Cox another week?

Fairly happy with the rest of the team, McNeil at M11 but not concerned.

If you have a rookie at D5 I'd get a premo in quick smart. Watched Ridley and he looked sharp, long penetrating kicking. The only concern would be future lock down roles, not sure how the Bombers plan on using him.

Cheers Bully, that definitely seems the plan.

Have Lloyd, Laird, Stewart and Daniel already, so think Ridley would be the next best
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: billnats on March 23, 2021, 11:42:43 pm
Martin & Fantasia
Or
Taranto & Stephenson
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on March 24, 2021, 12:08:18 am
Martin & Fantasia
Or
Taranto & Stephenson

Martin & Fantasia
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Hazza09 on March 24, 2021, 10:38:40 am
Bailey Smith v McGrath v Taranto?

Not sure if any of these guys will be Top 8-10 mids by this years end.

Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on March 24, 2021, 10:48:17 am
Bailey Smith v McGrath v Taranto?

Not sure if any of these guys will be Top 8-10 mids by this years end.

Personally feel McGrath has the highest upside but Taranto comes in 60k cheaper so there's that to consider. Smith is spending more time in the back half which may affect his consistency, he's a jet but probably not the best pick in a team laden with fantasy stars.

Can you afford Zorko? He is 50/50 to be a top 6 forward so worth a punt.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: whynot102 on March 24, 2021, 08:08:38 pm
Dusty or Zorko and Heppell or Stephenson and McGrath
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on March 24, 2021, 08:17:50 pm
Dusty or Zorko and Heppell or Stephenson and McGrath

Dusty & Heppell.

I just think the odds of nailing two breakouts is pretty remote. There's certainly merit in both selections but you would be exposing yourself to a fair degree of risk.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: whynot102 on March 25, 2021, 06:06:34 pm
Dusty Heppell vs Dunkley Rowe
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: jfitty on March 25, 2021, 06:15:16 pm
Dusty Heppell vs Dunkley Rowe

Dusty Heppell for mine.

How about Ridley vs Sidebottom for Danger?
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: whynot102 on March 25, 2021, 06:19:12 pm
Ridley
Dusty Heppell vs Dunkley Rowe

Dusty Heppell for mine.

How about Ridley vs Sidebottom for Danger?
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Hazza09 on March 26, 2021, 10:25:49 am
Ridley & Dunkley vs Dunkley B Smith
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Wanderer on March 26, 2021, 11:45:29 am
Ridley & Dunkley vs Dunkley B Smith

Ridley and Dunkley easily and it's not even close.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: jfitty on March 27, 2021, 03:18:49 pm
Need to pick two to start:

Nik Cox vs Scott vs Harry Jones vs Bergman

Thinking the last two?
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Mat0369 on March 27, 2021, 04:28:47 pm
Bergman and Scott
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: tkringle on March 27, 2021, 06:45:49 pm
Bergman and Scott

Hopefully you went Scott?

Jordon or Scott?
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: RoughRed on March 28, 2021, 11:42:15 am
Brockman or AScott
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: billnats on March 28, 2021, 10:19:34 pm
Boak v Brayshaw
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: dmac07 on March 28, 2021, 10:51:29 pm
Second trade this week? After Dow to Jordon.

Powell to Impey
Phillips to Butters
Phillips to Walker +191k, Switkowski +210k, Impey + 277k
H.Jones to L.McDonald.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: MontyJnr on March 30, 2021, 07:29:14 am
Impey v Tex

Have money to afford either.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Judd Magic on March 30, 2021, 08:44:24 am
Phillips > Butters.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Judd Magic on March 30, 2021, 08:45:23 am
Impey imo. Don't like KPF's in sc.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: jfitty on March 30, 2021, 01:19:36 pm
Forward correction trade:

Campbell or Warner?

Don't mind the extra $$ saved going Warner, but Campbell might make cash a bit quicker?
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Fid on March 30, 2021, 03:03:11 pm
Forward correction trade:

Campbell or Warner?

Don't mind the extra $$ saved going Warner, but Campbell might make cash a bit quicker?

I am lucky enough to have both.

I would go Campbell and on the plus side he is DPP
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: whynot102 on March 30, 2021, 08:08:55 pm
Boak & Dunkley or Oliver and Butters
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: RoughRed on March 30, 2021, 08:11:04 pm
Boak & Dunkley or Oliver and Butters
Oliver & Butters for me ... no real logic one way the other as they are both great selections, just gut feel :o
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on March 30, 2021, 08:14:47 pm
Boak & Dunkley or Oliver and Butters

Toss up as Dunkley & Oliver are must haves.

Boak safer to hit 110 but could drop off from here and settle at 105 (don't think he goes lower). Butters has a lower floor but as a forward he stands more chance to be top 6.

Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Samsturmfels on March 30, 2021, 09:00:20 pm
Trade out Neale and H.Jones to Dusty and Tex for scoring and cash generation purposes
vs
saving the trades for the long-term (have already used 2 trades).

Really keen to have quick cash gen and i feel Tex can make some quick cash and am worried about Neale possibly playing with an injury/being stuck in Melbourne. However, nearly every year except 1 I have run out of trades at least a couple of weeks early before the last round (I have played 9 years). I am generally aggressive with Injuries and rookies to try and improve my teams. This year will mostly likely be worse for injuries (due to shorter breaks between seasons and lower interchange cap) and the new concussion rule protocols.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Ringo on March 30, 2021, 09:09:00 pm
Trade out Neale and H.Jones to Dusty and Tex for scoring and cash generation purposes
vs
saving the trades for the long-term (have already used 2 trades).

Really keen to have quick cash gen and i feel Tex can make some quick cash and am worried about Neale possibly playing with an injury/being stuck in Melbourne. However, nearly every year except 1 I have run out of trades at least a couple of weeks early before the last round (I have played 9 years). I am generally aggressive with Injuries and rookies to try and improve my teams. This year will mostly likely be worse for injuries (due to shorter breaks between seasons and lower interchange cap) and the new concussion rule protocols.

Thoughts?
facing the same dilema. The pros are that Keep Neale given that he will still probably be a top 10 mid and save 2 trades - one to trade out and one to get back in.
Cons He has started poorly and will reduce in value so no issues if you are keeping. However if you feel you can use cash better and salvage points with the extra upgrades go for it.

So deciision for me is save 2 trades v increased points initially and then getting Neale when he bottoms out.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: whynot102 on March 30, 2021, 09:10:52 pm
Same for me going to trade and get an extra Orem in with the cash
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Samsturmfels on March 30, 2021, 09:15:23 pm
Trade out Neale and H.Jones to Dusty and Tex for scoring and cash generation purposes
vs
saving the trades for the long-term (have already used 2 trades).

Really keen to have quick cash gen and i feel Tex can make some quick cash and am worried about Neale possibly playing with an injury/being stuck in Melbourne. However, nearly every year except 1 I have run out of trades at least a couple of weeks early before the last round (I have played 9 years). I am generally aggressive with Injuries and rookies to try and improve my teams. This year will mostly likely be worse for injuries (due to shorter breaks between seasons and lower interchange cap) and the new concussion rule protocols.

Thoughts?
facing the same dilema. The pros are that Keep Neale given that he will still probably be a top 10 mid and save 2 trades - one to trade out and one to get back in.
Cons He has started poorly and will reduce in value so no issues if you are keeping. However if you feel you can use cash better and salvage points with the extra upgrades go for it.

So deciision for me is save 2 trades v increased points initially and then getting Neale when he bottoms out.
Yeah its very hard to know. If we have bad luck with injuries later on the season we may be wishing we didn't do the trades. Some people say trades should be worth 150k or something like that. When i am tight on trades at the end of the season it may be the difference between having a premo on the field vs having to field a rookie/a 0. But at the same time, i want my overall rank to keep climbing and the only way to that is to keep improving your team.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: whynot102 on March 30, 2021, 09:29:24 pm
Boak vs Brayshaw
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Colliwobblers on March 30, 2021, 09:46:50 pm
Boak vs Brayshaw

brayshaw 31 at 84% can't really go past boak either. two mot traded in players again (not in my team). Freo looking half good Fyfe playing fwd when back.

rozee back for port this week hopefully might take a few touches off butters and boak?
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Thewizz71 on March 30, 2021, 09:59:07 pm
Tex v Impey v Warner.
Replacing Caldwell. Looking for cash gen and points.
Current thinking is Tex, Warner, Impey in that order.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Fid on March 31, 2021, 06:34:44 am
Tex v Impey v Warner.
Replacing Caldwell. Looking for cash gen and points.
Current thinking is Tex, Warner, Impey in that order.

That's the same order I would put them in as well
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: jfitty on March 31, 2021, 10:53:32 am
Big decision this week, still in the top 2k, unsure of going for gold or playing it safe:

Harry Jones > Campbell (only one trade)

OR

Nik Cox > Warner & Taranto > Brayshaw

Feel young Andy is the real deal this year
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Wanderer on April 01, 2021, 06:02:53 pm
Drop Dow or Daniher?
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on April 01, 2021, 06:08:13 pm
Drop Dow or Daniher?

Drop Dow who to date is a 1 in 50 chance to break the 80 barrier.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: RoughRed on April 01, 2021, 07:00:50 pm
Who to field Bergman or Fullaton or Rowe?
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: tkringle on April 01, 2021, 07:08:08 pm
Who to field Bergman or Fullaton or Rowe?

Heard somewhere that Bergman likely to be the sub. Donít have a source article or tweet that I can find for it though.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: B. on April 13, 2021, 06:48:39 pm
Brining in a defender-
Ridley or
Mills/Short and use the 70/80k spare from them for future upgrades
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on April 13, 2021, 07:51:56 pm
Brining in a defender-
Ridley or
Mills/Short and use the 70/80k spare from them for future upgrades

Grab Ridley I think, looks to be a cut above.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Gavdroid on April 13, 2021, 08:01:05 pm
Brining in a defender-
Ridley or
Mills/Short and use the 70/80k spare from them for future upgrades

Grab Ridley I think, looks to be a cut above.

X2
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Colliwobblers on April 13, 2021, 08:08:00 pm
agree plus you save 30-50k getting ridley now instead of later.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: tommy10 on April 14, 2021, 02:50:07 pm
Brining in a defender-
Ridley or
Mills/Short and use the 70/80k spare from them for future upgrades

Grab Ridley I think, looks to be a cut above.

X2
lock it in and throw away the key
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Thewizz71 on April 14, 2021, 06:25:39 pm
Need to offload Caleb.
Short or Bowes?
Both look very similar but Bowes that little bit cheaper. Thinking Bowes to be that little bit different.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on April 14, 2021, 06:48:26 pm
Need to offload Caleb.
Short or Bowes?
Both look very similar but Bowes that little bit cheaper. Thinking Bowes to be that little bit different.

Decent POD but Short the better disposal efficiency & I wonder when they will revert back to Lukosius who is in my opinion a better kick.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Ringo on April 14, 2021, 08:02:48 pm
Agree with the comment on Bowes and Luka being moved around is my concern with Bowes.

However this one Short v Houston.  Houston could be a pod and with Ports injuries may become even my relevant.  Against Shorts disposal efficiency. Thought Houlis return may effect him but did not appear to last week. What will happen when Vlastuin returns as well.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Thewizz71 on April 14, 2021, 08:33:56 pm
Been on the Houston train before. What's changed?
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Mat0369 on April 15, 2021, 12:02:45 am
Houston looks the goods this year. I actually preferred him playing HB as he was able to roam free and had kick in duties. He moved into the guts and killed it but the worry is they may use him as a run with player which kills his average.

Doc and Rich are the other two floating under the radar
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on April 15, 2021, 07:08:18 am
Houston looks the goods this year. I actually preferred him playing HB as he was able to roam free and had kick in duties. He moved into the guts and killed it but the worry is they may use him as a run with player which kills his average.

Doc and Rich are the other two floating under the radar

Quite a few solid options, that's why Jiath might be too big a risk at this stage. Hurn at 410k is just about a lock for me, you know he will take 80% of the kick outs.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: tkringle on April 15, 2021, 07:19:41 am
Houston looks the goods this year. I actually preferred him playing HB as he was able to roam free and had kick in duties. He moved into the guts and killed it but the worry is they may use him as a run with player which kills his average.

Doc and Rich are the other two floating under the radar

Quite a few solid options, that's why Jiath might be too big a risk at this stage. Hurn at 410k is just about a lock for me, you know he will take 80% of the kick outs.

But Hurn is out with a calf for 2-3 weeks..
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on April 15, 2021, 07:44:08 am
Houston looks the goods this year. I actually preferred him playing HB as he was able to roam free and had kick in duties. He moved into the guts and killed it but the worry is they may use him as a run with player which kills his average.

Doc and Rich are the other two floating under the radar

Quite a few solid options, that's why Jiath might be too big a risk at this stage. Hurn at 410k is just about a lock for me, you know he will take 80% of the kick outs.

But Hurn is out with a calf for 2-3 weeks..

This is obviously down the track (coach said 1-2 weeks), will hope my D6 holds out until then, priority is midfield for now.
Honestly can't remember another year where most of the mids have significantly dipped below their starting price. Titch at 550k & Neale at 520ks crazy at this point in the year.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: tkringle on April 15, 2021, 10:17:05 am
Houston looks the goods this year. I actually preferred him playing HB as he was able to roam free and had kick in duties. He moved into the guts and killed it but the worry is they may use him as a run with player which kills his average.

Doc and Rich are the other two floating under the radar

Quite a few solid options, that's why Jiath might be too big a risk at this stage. Hurn at 410k is just about a lock for me, you know he will take 80% of the kick outs.

But Hurn is out with a calf for 2-3 weeks..

This is obviously down the track (coach said 1-2 weeks), will hope my D6 holds out until then, priority is midfield for now.
Honestly can't remember another year where most of the mids have significantly dipped below their starting price. Titch at 550k & Neale at 520ks crazy at this point in the year.

Yeah AFL injury list now saying 2-3 weeks. With his age it could stretch out as well given itís a calf.

Yep after this week I am going to focus on the midfield as well. Who the top 8 after Macrae, Oliver and Steele are is unclear though. Might Target Titch.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on April 15, 2021, 10:29:29 am
Houston looks the goods this year. I actually preferred him playing HB as he was able to roam free and had kick in duties. He moved into the guts and killed it but the worry is they may use him as a run with player which kills his average.

Doc and Rich are the other two floating under the radar

Quite a few solid options, that's why Jiath might be too big a risk at this stage. Hurn at 410k is just about a lock for me, you know he will take 80% of the kick outs.

But Hurn is out with a calf for 2-3 weeks..

This is obviously down the track (coach said 1-2 weeks), will hope my D6 holds out until then, priority is midfield for now.
Honestly can't remember another year where most of the mids have significantly dipped below their starting price. Titch at 550k & Neale at 520ks crazy at this point in the year.

Yeah AFL injury list now saying 2-3 weeks. With his age it could stretch out as well given itís a calf.

Yep after this week I am going to focus on the midfield as well. Who the top 8 after Macrae, Oliver and Steele are is unclear though. Might Target Titch.

Titch probably my focus, I like a guaranteed 110 & a guy who rarely misses. After that I will probably roll the dice on Neale, by that stage a legit POD.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Mat0369 on April 15, 2021, 12:41:34 pm
I have two parter

Steele vs Oliver vs Danger

I'm trading Daniel out and they're my three options. I feel Danger is due for a big one this week, is out of a lot of teams due to the suspension and could be an excellent POD.

Oliver could get the Worpel tag but has been great to start the year other than the GWS game.

Steele just keeps ticking along and is in 19% of teams. He could be a must have and I can comfortably get him in this week.

Part two

Jordon vs Daniher vs Campbell

I feel Campbell has more money to make once the 29 drops out of his rotation. He is the one I'm inclined to keep.

Daniher has stagnated but comes up against his old team that is struggling for KPD depth. A nice match up and could kick the cash gen off again

Jordon seems to be out of the rotation with Melksham back. 50% TOG is pretty bad and he has a 40ish BE. He was a bit of a wasted trade so far.

All my other rookies have negative BE's other than Kosi/Highmore and I can't swing them for Waterman anyway.

I can do my Danger/Oliver trade using just the one. If I grab Steele I'm just short so I would need to pull the trigger on part two tonight and can't wait and see
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on April 15, 2021, 01:03:13 pm
I have two parter

Steele vs Oliver vs Danger

I'm trading Daniel out and they're my three options. I feel Danger is due for a big one this week, is out of a lot of teams due to the suspension and could be an excellent POD.

Oliver could get the Worpel tag but has been great to start the year other than the GWS game.

Steele just keeps ticking along and is in 19% of teams. He could be a must have and I can comfortably get him in this week.

Part two

Jordon vs Daniher vs Campbell

I feel Campbell has more money to make once the 29 drops out of his rotation. He is the one I'm inclined to keep.

Daniher has stagnated but comes up against his old team that is struggling for KPD depth. A nice match up and could kick the cash gen off again

Jordon seems to be out of the rotation with Melksham back. 50% TOG is pretty bad and he has a 40ish BE. He was a bit of a wasted trade so far.

All my other rookies have negative BE's other than Kosi/Highmore and I can't swing them for Waterman anyway.

I can do my Danger/Oliver trade using just the one. If I grab Steele I'm just short so I would need to pull the trigger on part two tonight and can't wait and see

I was a little shocked at Steele's ownership, roughly on par with Clarry, thought he would be around 10%. I'd like him at some stage but not at 650k.

Danger has a high BE, I'd probably wait on that, could see him start deep forward until he gets his mojo back.

Clarry is basically averaging 130 once you take out the De Boer game, good price & despite a high BE I'd grab him while you can, the 130 ensures he will bounce straight back up.

As for the rookies, I'd probably punt Jordon, I would have done the same but I needed the extra cash from Daniher. I reckon 50% game time indicates he's on the cusp of getting dropped.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: tommy10 on April 15, 2021, 05:17:22 pm
I have two parter

Steele vs Oliver vs Danger

I'm trading Daniel out and they're my three options. I feel Danger is due for a big one this week, is out of a lot of teams due to the suspension and could be an excellent POD.

Oliver could get the Worpel tag but has been great to start the year other than the GWS game.

Steele just keeps ticking along and is in 19% of teams. He could be a must have and I can comfortably get him in this week.

Part two

Jordon vs Daniher vs Campbell

I feel Campbell has more money to make once the 29 drops out of his rotation. He is the one I'm inclined to keep.

Daniher has stagnated but comes up against his old team that is struggling for KPD depth. A nice match up and could kick the cash gen off again

Jordon seems to be out of the rotation with Melksham back. 50% TOG is pretty bad and he has a 40ish BE. He was a bit of a wasted trade so far.

All my other rookies have negative BE's other than Kosi/Highmore and I can't swing them for Waterman anyway.

I can do my Danger/Oliver trade using just the one. If I grab Steele I'm just short so I would need to pull the trigger on part two tonight and can't wait and see

I was a little shocked at Steele's ownership, roughly on par with Clarry, thought he would be around 10%. I'd like him at some stage but not at 650k.

Hopefully he has a couple of quiet games including tonight. Would love to get him under 600k.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Mat0369 on April 15, 2021, 05:40:38 pm
I was a little shocked at Steele's ownership, roughly on par with Clarry, thought he would be around 10%. I'd like him at some stage but not at 650k.

Danger has a high BE, I'd probably wait on that, could see him start deep forward until he gets his mojo back.

Clarry is basically averaging 130 once you take out the De Boer game, good price & despite a high BE I'd grab him while you can, the 130 ensures he will bounce straight back up.

As for the rookies, I'd probably punt Jordon, I would have done the same but I needed the extra cash from Daniher. I reckon 50% game time indicates he's on the cusp of getting dropped.

Not stressed with Danger's BE as he has only played 1 game. He should slot back into the midfield this week although I saw Cameron is missing so he could spend extra time forward. If he smashes North this week (which he should) that number comes down anyway for his price rise. He also had the most CB's for the Cats in that game against the Crows so while playing a lot of forward he still had that time in the midfield.

Worpel could go to Oliver this week the same way he did to Brayshaw last week. You're probably right that Steele is too expensive but I am shocked he is in under 20% of teams. I should still be able to grab Oliver this week and Danger in a fortnight.

I'm also thinking Jordon is the weakest link. Unfortunately I'll have to pop Campbell on my mid bench this week.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Ingram on April 16, 2021, 01:39:57 am
Time to offload Meek to Treacy pocket the 110K? Dropped to Peel Thunder might not get another crack for a while.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Thewizz71 on April 22, 2021, 12:15:18 pm
Need to offload Danger.
Fyfe v Oliver v Walsh.
Thinking Oliver.
Uncertain about Fyfe going forward and whether or not Walsh can keep it up.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: frenzy on April 22, 2021, 01:28:10 pm
Lachie Jones ruled out, source Herald sun webby. Will miss a month source Port webby.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Mat0369 on April 23, 2021, 10:16:11 pm
Doc vs Bowes

I need one to bring in as an upgrade this week for Jordan Clark. Unfortunately I don't have the cash for a Rich/Ryan who I prefer.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: RoughRed on April 23, 2021, 10:25:10 pm
Doc vs Bowes

I need one to bring in as an upgrade this week for Jordan Clark. Unfortunately I don't have the cash for a Rich/Ryan who I prefer.
IMO Docherty over Bowes ...
Not a lot of logic to it but i have seen Doc play live (in the past and last week) and think in a good side he is great, and in a bad side he is awesome
so ....
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on April 23, 2021, 10:25:26 pm
Doc vs Bowes

I need one to bring in as an upgrade this week for Jordan Clark. Unfortunately I don't have the cash for a Rich/Ryan who I prefer.

Bowes I worry about with the kick outs, don't think he's as polished as Lukosius & as the season progresses I reckon he'll see less of it.

Docherty has a monster game in him, he does it every year, his floor is also rock solid.

I prefer the other too as well but you can't win them all if cash is limited. Grabbing Doch should be good for 100+ however, that's ok for D6.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Mat0369 on April 23, 2021, 10:44:12 pm
IMO Docherty over Bowes ...
Not a lot of logic to it but i have seen Doc play live (in the past and last week) and think in a good side he is great, and in a bad side he is awesome
so ....

He had iffy disposal when he first came to Carlton but he really cleaned it up and became a dominant ball winner out of the back half that would launch our attacks from defence. I don't think teams will key on him the way they did last season but he has had a few shanks which has hurt his scoring. When you look at his numbers they aren't too dissimilar from 2016 when he averaged 108. The main difference is his tackling where he is averaging under 1 per game but that has a lot to do with our midfield putting zero pressure up the ground so the ball is moving around pretty cleanly inside 50.

Bowes I worry about with the kick outs, don't think he's as polished as Lukosius & as the season progresses I reckon he'll see less of it.

Docherty has a monster game in him, he does it every year, his floor is also rock solid.

I prefer the other too as well but you can't win them all if cash is limited. Grabbing Doch should be good for 100+ however, that's ok for D6.

I currently have defenders 1, 2, 4 and 7 based on average. The other guys are Bowes (3), Rich (5) and Mills (6).

Bowes has slowed down after his big round 1 to average around 90 over the last 3. It's not great but it's serviceable and more than fine for a D6 option. The floor seems to be coming from the kickins.

Rich and Mills I can't afford and I'd be inclined to grab Ryan over both for the rest of the season.

Doc is averaging 105 over the last 3 which is 9th in that frame. Again probably good enough for D6 in the long run.

I also really like Houston but the knock could probably see him miss this week and he will bleed cash.

Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: IntegralX on April 29, 2021, 08:52:57 pm
Discount Brayshaw vs Walsh? Is the 110k a factor, or take the top-10 lock in Walsh?
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on April 29, 2021, 10:02:49 pm
Discount Brayshaw vs Walsh? Is the 110k a factor, or take the top-10 lock in Walsh?

I'd be aiming for a top 10 mid at this stage.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Fid on April 30, 2021, 05:43:52 am
Discount Brayshaw vs Walsh? Is the 110k a factor, or take the top-10 lock in Walsh?

I'd be aiming for a top 10 mid at this stage.

I guess it depends on how many mid premos you have already. I have just traded in Brayshaw and he's my M6 atm
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: tommy10 on April 30, 2021, 12:30:29 pm
Discount Brayshaw vs Walsh? Is the 110k a factor, or take the top-10 lock in Walsh?

I'd be aiming for a top 10 mid at this stage.

I guess it depends on how many mid premos you have already. I have just traded in Brayshaw and he's my M6 atm
Same thinking here. If I trade him for Gulden, he'll be my M6.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: IntegralX on April 30, 2021, 01:35:12 pm
Discount Brayshaw vs Walsh? Is the 110k a factor, or take the top-10 lock in Walsh?

I'd be aiming for a top 10 mid at this stage.

I guess it depends on how many mid premos you have already. I have just traded in Brayshaw and he's my M6 atm

He would be my M5, with Taranto at M6
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: frenzy on May 03, 2021, 01:06:51 pm
Clarry or Titchell and save $83k
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on May 03, 2021, 01:39:55 pm
Clarry or Titchell and save $83k

Tough one, I'd probably take Clarry but depends on how you plan on using the 83k.

My dilemma this week is Brayshaw vs Titch vs Josh Kelly, reckon this order is about right.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Mat0369 on May 03, 2021, 01:59:38 pm
Clarry or Titchell and save $83k

Oliver. You want to be bringing in the guys you're certain are going to be in the top handful at this point. Oliver fits that and is probably worth the extra cash.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Mat0369 on May 03, 2021, 02:02:18 pm
Tough one, I'd probably take Clarry but depends on how you plan on using the 83k.

My dilemma this week is Brayshaw vs Titch vs Josh Kelly, reckon this order is about right.

I wouldn't go near Josh Kelly. I think Brayshaw has been amazing other than the two games the tag got to him. All the other scores have been over 110. The one thing to look at is he comes up against both those sides again in back to back games down the track. The Hawks game his score could have been even worse. They sent him to tag Mitchell at HT and that eventually broke the tag in the last quarter allowing him to rack up the touches at that point.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on May 03, 2021, 03:37:29 pm
Tough one, I'd probably take Clarry but depends on how you plan on using the 83k.

My dilemma this week is Brayshaw vs Titch vs Josh Kelly, reckon this order is about right.

I wouldn't go near Josh Kelly. I think Brayshaw has been amazing other than the two games the tag got to him. All the other scores have been over 110. The one thing to look at is he comes up against both those sides again in back to back games down the track. The Hawks game his score could have been even worse. They sent him to tag Mitchell at HT and that eventually broke the tag in the last quarter allowing him to rack up the touches at that point.

So Titch vs Brayshaw. Who's the best bet?
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Mat0369 on May 03, 2021, 11:44:08 pm
I kind of went into way too much depth here because I have Mitchell and other than round 1 he has been disappointing and I can't figure out why.  ​He is second in overall disposals and second in effective disposals but he is scoring way lower than he did in 2017 and 2018. He is getting the ball but why is he scoring less?

A basic look at his numbers from 2017, 2018 and 2021 including finals. These are the differences per game

Kicks

13.9, 16.2, 11.4

Handballs

21.8, 18.1, 21.9

Marks

5.3, 4.7, 4.4

Tackles

6.5, 6.3, 4.1

Goal Assists

0.4, 0.5, 0.7

Goals

0.5, 0.5, 0.1

Inside 50's

3.5, 4.9, 3.6

Clearances

6.3, 8.0, 3.3

Frees For

1.4, 2.3, 1.0

Frees Against

1.6, 1.3, 1.4

Contested Possessions

14.77, 16.21, 10.71

Clangers

4.5, 4.2, 4.3

DE%

72.83, 71.95, 74.23

SC

118.9, 129.1, 101.6

So he is down a couple of kicks a game, maybe 1 mark a game, 2 tackles, half a goal, a boatload of clearances and contested possessions. His turnover numbers are down from 2018 but up from 2017, however his overall disposal efficiency is up from both of those seasons.

I wouldn't be too stressed about the kicks and marks. What worries me is the contested possession numbers have drastically fallen, he isn't tackling as much and he is 3-5 clearances down a game. There have been times he is starting out of the square at the CB's and the clearance numbers are down due to less repeat stoppages. I had a quick look at the contested possession percentage league wide and this is what I got as a result.

2017

37.4%

2018

38.9%

2019

39.5%

2020

40.4%

2021

37.9%

So while the overall percentage of contested possessions are down from last year and 2019, they are up from 2017 where he still had 4 more contested possessions per game and a 118 average.  Round 1 he had 14 contested which was right around the 2017 number and he had the big score. Add in the 5 tackles which were also closer to the 2017 numbers and he produced his lone score over 110 for the season. If you think he can average that a week I'd probably grab Mitchell because the volume is 100% still there in terms of possessions. I just feel with less stoppages it's hurting how he wins the ball.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on May 04, 2021, 09:19:29 am
Superb analysis Matt, I suppose the increase in uncontested football has made a significant impact on various mids, Cripps suffereing too. There's also the fact Hawthorn are losing & not getting too many favours with the scaling & an increase in points down back.

Probably stick with Brayshaw for now & then reassess in a couple of weeks, can't see Titch becoming too expensive to bring in down the track.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Mat0369 on May 04, 2021, 03:05:51 pm
Cripps is another issue altogether. There have been multiple times this year where a soft free kick has been paid against him resulting in a goal to the opposition that has seen his score plummet. That has probably hurt him a couple times this year where he should have hit the ton or had a big score.

He is also down 4 touches a game from 2018 (he was 9th in the AFL) and 3 down from 2019 (17th) to sit at around 25.71 per game which is good for 41st in the league.

This year he is averaging 13.29 contested possessions per game which is good for 11th in the AFL. 2018 he averaged 17.64 (1st) and 2019 he averaged 16.95 (2nd) so he is well down there.

He is 4th in the AFL for clangers per game (5.86). That is up from 2018 where he averaged 4.50 (8th) and 2019's 4.30 (10th) on less disposals. He is up in goal assists fractionally but down on tackles.

Interestingly there are maybe three players that seems to have stayed around their contested possession numbers from 2018/2019 that were in the top handful. Oliver has fractionally improved on both those seasons while Cunnington is right around his 2018/2019 numbers and Boak is the same as 2019 with 14 per game.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: RoughRed on May 04, 2021, 07:48:02 pm
Superb analysis Matt, I suppose the increase in uncontested football has made a significant impact on various mids
+1 - A great geeking analysis
I am a real Tich fan and when I watch him play he still seems to be everywhere
But as you point out Matt it is the drop in clearances and tackles that seem to be resulting in "lower" scores
I have him in my team and am happy (just) with the output but can not see him captaining again!
@Matt When I watch at Oliver playing (also in my team) i get concerned at his scoring because he, at times does not seem as prevalent, but so far he is one of the more consistent scorers - is that a result of primarily his contested possession numbers?
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Mat0369 on May 04, 2021, 11:10:31 pm
@Matt When I watch at Oliver playing (also in my team) i get concerned at his scoring because he, at times does not seem as prevalent, but so far he is one of the more consistent scorers - is that a result of primarily his contested possession numbers?

Contested ball numbers have always been supercoach gold. Off the top of my head guys like Fyfe, JPK and Cripps have always had much higher SC to Fantasy ratio and this was off the back of their contested ball numbers. The fact that Oliver is still winning 16 a game is giving him a nice floor. Each contested possession is worth around 4.5 points alone. At 16 a game it gives him a solid 72 point starting base. There is also the scaling that comes into it which will change the value assigned and the total points distributed by the end of the match.

Looking at his AF to SC ratio along with Fyfe, Cripps and JPK's

Oliver

AF

Year   Games   Average
2016   13   68.9
2017   22   101.6
2018   22   109.1
2019   22   105.9
2020   17   91.7
2021   7   112.0

SC

Year   Games   Average
2016   13   70.3
2017   22   111.5
2018   22   114.7
2019   22   109.4
2020   17   122.2
2021   7   113.9

Fyfe

AF

Year   Games   Average
2010   16   68.1
2011   21   98.4
2012   9   89.0
2013   19   97.9
2014   18   102.3
2015   18   105.1
2016   5   98.6
2017   21   97.4
2018   15   102.1
2019   20   105.0
2020   14   75.4
2021   6   91.5

SC

Year   Games   Average
2010   16   72.6
2011   21   108.0
2012   9   93.2
2013   19   106.5
2014   18   122.3
2015   18   124.3
2016   5   105.4
2017   21   108.8
2018   15   113.9
2019   20   120.0
2020   14   113.2
2021   6   114.0


Cripps

AF

Year   Games   Average
2014   3   36.3
2015   20   86.2
2016   21   99.5
2017   15   98.3
2018   22   109.3
2019   20   101.5
2020   17   75.3
2021   7   89.7

SC

Year   Games   Average
2014   3   39.3
2015   20   96.3
2016   21   107.6
2017   15   97.7
2018   22   119.4
2019   20   117.1
2020   17   97.5
2021   7   84.3

JPK

AF

Year   Games   Average
2008   3   60.7
2009   10   71.8
2010   22   73.7
2011   22   86.5
2012   22   101.7
2013   22   91.0
2014   20   105.1
2015   22   107.5
2016   21   108.2
2017   19   98.0
2018   22   90.1
2019   19   100.3
2020   12   81.7
2021   7   88.9

SC

Year   Games   Average
2008   3   50.7
2009   10   80.8
2010   22   81.0
2011   22   96.1
2012   22   120.2
2013   22   105.4
2014   20   113.9
2015   22   110.2
2016   21   113.4
2017   19   102.6
2018   22   96.8
2019   19   106.6
2020   12   95.6
2021   7   90.9

Interestingly enough Cripps AF is higher than his SC this year while Oliver is almost 1:1. The Cripps drop will be tied to his CP drop while Oliver being closer to 1:1 is most likely because he has been ineffective in front of goal at important points of the game.

Oliver is averaging about 5 clangers a game but what needs to be taken into account is how the ball is turned over. If it is a contested possession clanger I believe the negative points are lower compared to an uncontested possession clanger. Because Oliver is generally first hands on the ball if he turns it over he isn't being punished the same way Mitchell may be this year.

So for example Shiels wins the clearance for the Hawks, hand passes it to Mitchell who is surrounded by players and gets tackled almost immediately. Mitchell hand passes the ball while being dragged down to not be caught holding the ball and the opposition end up with possession who are then tackled and it results in a ball up. It will count as an uncontested clanger handball which is a maximum penalty under the CD guidelines. There isn't a lot of transparency in the system due to their scaling and they way they categorise certain stats.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Keeper27 on May 07, 2021, 04:27:41 pm
Duggan + Campbell OUT
May + A Brayshaw IN
$5.2K Kitty

OR

Duggan + Campbell OUT
Rookie (Murphy/Murray) + Walsh/McCluggage/Mundy IN
$190K Kitty
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Mat0369 on May 09, 2021, 02:00:54 pm
Mitchell has 14 contested and 4 tackles. Currently on 111
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on May 09, 2021, 03:23:05 pm
Mitchell has 14 contested and 4 tackles. Currently on 111

Think I missed my opportunity with Titch, hopefully Brayshaw repays the faith.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on May 09, 2021, 04:37:46 pm
Sinking feeling now, reckon I've made a serious mistake taking Brayshaw over Titch, almost season defining.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on May 09, 2021, 05:19:52 pm
I can feel a serious rage trade coming on.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: RoughRed on May 10, 2021, 09:31:30 am
Tex has to go!
Bolton M/F $498K BE 67 Av 109.3 Round 13 bye
or
Impey  Fwd $452K BE 78 AV 98.3 Round 13 bye
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: WhatsSC??? on May 10, 2021, 07:52:14 pm
Tex has to go!
Bolton M/F $498K BE 67 Av 109.3 Round 13 bye
or
Impey  Fwd $452K BE 78 AV 98.3 Round 13 bye


Has to be Impey with Bolton out for 2-3weeks
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: WhatsSC??? on May 10, 2021, 07:57:04 pm
Which defender to complete my defence...

Lloyd  107.4 $558k  34%teams
or
Ridley 104.9 $488k  25% teams (would also give me 70k in the bank too)


Lloyd has been ever consistent and Ridley has had an injury game affected from concussion.  I'm just worried with Ridley's few games back he's only score in the 80's or do you bank that he will improve again and start scoring over the ton?
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Mat0369 on May 10, 2021, 08:04:10 pm
Redman has been taking kickins. Ridley is amazing so I'd probably pick him and the 70k but both picks are great picks
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: RoughRed on May 10, 2021, 08:23:01 pm
Tex has to go!
Bolton M/F $498K BE 67 Av 109.3 Round 13 bye
or
Impey  Fwd $452K BE 78 AV 98.3 Round 13 bye


Has to be Impey with Bolton out for 2-3weeks
I like simple solutions ..  give me more cash too!
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Mat0369 on May 14, 2021, 05:34:36 pm
Poulter vs RCD

The other option is I double downgrade but the plan was to turn Cripps into a premium mid instead.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on May 14, 2021, 05:40:45 pm
Poulter vs RCD

The other option is I double downgrade but the plan was to turn Cripps into a premium mid instead.

Tough call, I'd be tempted to go both but I understand it's time to get Cripps off the field. If in doubt grab the guy with the DPP.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Mat0369 on May 14, 2021, 05:44:21 pm
My thinking as well. Plus Flynn playing allows me to get one last price rise
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Mat0369 on May 14, 2021, 05:46:30 pm
Part 2, Poulter vs Scott on field?
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on May 14, 2021, 05:50:07 pm
Part 2, Poulter vs Scott on field?

Poulter, don't think Scott will get such an easy run against Port. Think last week he was the beneficiary of some very generous scaling.

In saying that is there any way you could manufacture a loop with Waterman?
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: billnats on May 14, 2021, 07:21:55 pm
Double downgrade to Collier-Dawkins
Or
Jump on Jelly??
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on May 14, 2021, 07:26:17 pm
Double downgrade to Collier-Dawkins
Or
Jump on Jelly??

Double down, think you would be better off with one of Zerrett, Guthrie, Lyons or Fyfe.

Jelly is OK value but he could be playing forward at any given moment & could get injured.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Mat0369 on May 14, 2021, 09:21:58 pm
Poulter, don't think Scott will get such an easy run against Port. Think last week he was the beneficiary of some very generous scaling.

In saying that is there any way you could manufacture a loop with Waterman?

Nope. I have McCreery on my forward bench and no way to swing the DPP. Has to be one or the other.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on May 14, 2021, 10:07:19 pm
Poulter, don't think Scott will get such an easy run against Port. Think last week he was the beneficiary of some very generous scaling.

In saying that is there any way you could manufacture a loop with Waterman?

Nope. I have McCreery on my forward bench and no way to swing the DPP. Has to be one or the other.

Poulter would be my pick but Scott has a 5 round average of 60 so toss of a coin.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: SilverLion on May 20, 2021, 11:27:44 am
Powell/Scott to Heeney + one of Macrae/Guthrie/Lyons/Steele

vs.

Powell/Scott to D Martin + Boak

vs.

Powell/Jordon to D Martin + one of Macrae/Guthrie/Lyons/Steele
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on May 20, 2021, 01:03:36 pm
Powell/Scott to Heeney + one of Macrae/Guthrie/Lyons/Steele

vs.

Powell/Scott to D Martin + Boak

vs.

Powell/Jordon to D Martin + one of Macrae/Guthrie/Lyons/Steele

Dusty + Macrae
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: frenzy on May 20, 2021, 02:29:53 pm
welcome back Thursday night teams  ::)
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Mat0369 on May 21, 2021, 06:05:04 pm
Zorko +$47,800 vs Hawkins + $74,900
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: whynot102 on May 21, 2021, 06:20:05 pm
Iíve gone with Zorko
Zorko +$47,800 vs Hawkins + $74,900
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Mat0369 on May 21, 2021, 09:33:59 pm
Here's another one

Poulter vs Scott vs Waterman
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: B. on May 22, 2021, 06:21:28 am
Here's another one

Poulter vs Scott vs Waterman

Have the same issue
Thinking Waterman/Poulter..

Still not sure haha
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Blues Blues Blues on May 22, 2021, 06:47:50 am
Need a mid upgrade.

Iíve already used Trade 1 to get Caleb Daniel.

Trade 2 thinking:
- Bont: GUN. But expensive. Plus I also have Macrae and Daniel
- Steele: looks underpriced and pretty consistent
- Josh Kelly: looks to have turned the corner with scoring as Giants find form?

Thoughts?
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: B. on May 22, 2021, 08:39:05 am
Need a mid upgrade.

Iíve already used Trade 1 to get Caleb Daniel.

Trade 2 thinking:
- Bont: GUN. But expensive. Plus I also have Macrae and Daniel
- Steele: looks underpriced and pretty consistent
- Josh Kelly: looks to have turned the corner with scoring as Giants find form?

Thoughts?

Bont > Steele. Both great options. Steele more value

Does Kelly go to HFF with Greene out??
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Mat0369 on May 22, 2021, 10:32:01 am
Have the same issue
Thinking Waterman/Poulter..

Still not sure haha

Waterman has the best matchup and will be seeing some midfield time which is tempting. Collingwood have Port so I'm thinking Poulter to the bench. Scott has the Saints so it's looking like a soft match up there as well

Need a mid upgrade.

Iíve already used Trade 1 to get Caleb Daniel.

Trade 2 thinking:
- Bont: GUN. But expensive. Plus I also have Macrae and Daniel
- Steele: looks underpriced and pretty consistent
- Josh Kelly: looks to have turned the corner with scoring as Giants find form?

Thoughts?

Now is probably the time to start looking at bye structure. Steele is the best value option so he would be my choice. I'd rank the three options in order of Steele, Bont, Kelly but take your byes into account and grab the one that suits them the best
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Mat0369 on May 23, 2021, 01:06:06 pm
And I started Scott. Between that and not owning Oliver it's not looking like a great week so far
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: whynot102 on May 27, 2021, 07:54:04 pm
Already have Heppell and Merrett do I get Parish or go with Michell
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on May 27, 2021, 08:16:20 pm
Already have Heppell and Merrett do I get Parish or go with Michell

Have to go Titch. you'll be punished in the round 13 bye round.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: billnats on May 28, 2021, 02:31:54 pm
Titchell for M7... good price despite still having a reasonably high BE. Good byes for me (albeit being next week)

OR

Heeney for F5... tasty price, low BE so I get on now or never. Pretty crap bye for my structure.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on May 28, 2021, 04:19:28 pm
Titchell for M7... good price despite still having a reasonably high BE. Good byes for me (albeit being next week)

OR

Heeney for F5... tasty price, low BE so I get on now or never. Pretty crap bye for my structure.

Can't see another bargain priced forward on the horizon so you need to assess whether you can fully upgrade with the cash you have or whether you need to opt for a couple of cheapies.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: whynot102 on May 28, 2021, 05:57:55 pm
Mitchell, Walsh or Fyfe
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on May 28, 2021, 06:10:37 pm
Mitchell, Walsh or Fyfe

Best bye player?
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Mat0369 on May 28, 2021, 06:22:12 pm
Fyfe is having issues with his foot. Walsh has been more consistent than Mitchell so I'd go with Walsh

Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Mat0369 on May 28, 2021, 06:22:59 pm
I need to field two of the following

Jones
Highmore
Madden
Murphy

Which two?
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on May 28, 2021, 06:30:46 pm
I need to field two of the following

Jones
Highmore
Madden
Murphy

Which two?

Jones & Highmore
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: whynot102 on May 28, 2021, 06:33:46 pm
Murphy and Highmore
I need to field two of the following

Jones
Highmore
Madden
Murphy

Which two?

Jones & Highmore
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Mat0369 on May 28, 2021, 06:38:00 pm
Actually ended up making a change and keeping Kosi. So it's two of Jones, Highmore, Kosi and Murphy. Would you field Kosi over Highmore/Jones.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on May 28, 2021, 06:45:39 pm
Actually ended up making a change and keeping Kosi. So it's two of Jones, Highmore, Kosi and Murphy. Would you field Kosi over Highmore/Jones.

Probably not, Jones tired a little bit last week but was on track for a 60. I'd put that down to a lack of match fitness, the very reason I wouldn't play Murphy.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Ringo on May 28, 2021, 07:26:46 pm
Actually ended up making a change and keeping Kosi. So it's two of Jones, Highmore, Kosi and Murphy. Would you field Kosi over Highmore/Jones.

Probably not, Jones tired a little bit last week but was on track for a 60. I'd put that down to a lack of match fitness, the very reason I wouldn't play Murphy.
Any chance of looping at all.  I am looping Jones and Murphy.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Mat0369 on May 28, 2021, 07:54:47 pm
Nope. I have 4 prems and those 4 rookies down back
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: B. on June 03, 2021, 09:21:01 am
Obviously Whitfield is a great pick and he could fill my D6 but that would mean leaving Laird at M7 and only getting one more premium mid.
Or swing Laird back to D6 and get 2 more premium mids at M7 and 8.

Would you pass on Whitfield to bring in 2 more premium Mids?

Think Guthrie/Bont and Lyons are too far out of reach now so what value picks are the best in the mids out of Duncan/Fyfe/Boak/Kelly/Petracca?

 
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on June 03, 2021, 07:25:59 pm
Obviously Whitfield is a great pick and he could fill my D6 but that would mean leaving Laird at M7 and only getting one more premium mid.
Or swing Laird back to D6 and get 2 more premium mids at M7 and 8.

Would you pass on Whitfield to bring in 2 more premium Mids?

Think Guthrie/Bont and Lyons are too far out of reach now so what value picks are the best in the mids out of Duncan/Fyfe/Boak/Kelly/Petracca?

Whitfield capable of matching those mids and has a nice draw, at a tick over 500k I reckon there's solid value. Neale another wait and see.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Woppa15 on June 04, 2021, 04:08:38 pm
Final Defender (unless I get lucky and trade up May)
Who should it be?
Mills? Lloyd? Whitfield?
Mills playing pure mid.
Lloyd is, well, Lloyd.
Whitfield real value at 500k, potential to match it with the premo mids

I suppose I should mention Hurn at 400k also  :o

Laird. Docherty. Stewart. Ridley. May. RookiesÖ
Oliver. Macrae. Guthrie. Steele. Walsh. Jordan. Poulter. RCD. Bench RookiesÖ
Grundy. Gawn. CCJ
Zorko. Ziebell. Martin. Impey. Daniher. Heeney. Bench Rookies x2
$410k bank 13 trades
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on June 04, 2021, 06:31:28 pm
Hurn's bye might be moved which is good in a way but now that includes Dusty, Short & CCJ. Might be better to grab Whitfield for that round 14 cover.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: jfitty on June 05, 2021, 12:37:49 pm
Hurn a great buy for mine, grabbed him myself
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: whynot102 on June 05, 2021, 01:13:59 pm
CCJ or Bianco
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on June 05, 2021, 01:50:19 pm
CCJ or Bianco

CCJ
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Thewizz71 on June 10, 2021, 12:55:20 pm
Boak or Kelly?
Whitfield or Hall?
Looking at RCD, Rowe and Jordan out for Reeves and 2 of the above?
Currently leaning towards Kelly and Whitfield.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Blues Blues Blues on June 10, 2021, 01:44:56 pm
Boak or Kelly?
Whitfield or Hall?
Looking at RCD, Rowe and Jordan out for Reeves and 2 of the above?
Currently leaning towards Kelly and Whitfield.

Whitfield and Kelly for mine

How about Hall v Hawkins?
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Thewizz71 on June 10, 2021, 01:54:27 pm
Boak or Kelly?
Whitfield or Hall?
Looking at RCD, Rowe and Jordan out for Reeves and 2 of the above?
Currently leaning towards Kelly and Whitfield.

Whitfield and Kelly for mine

How about Hall v Hawkins?

Hall - just picking it off half back but injury risk.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: B. on June 10, 2021, 03:27:27 pm
Whitfield and Boak. Iíve gone those 2

I like Hawkins.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Mat0369 on June 11, 2021, 05:42:59 pm
I grabbed Hawkins. I prefer him over Hall.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Blues Blues Blues on June 16, 2021, 12:26:10 pm
Zach Merrett v Sam Walsh?
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on June 16, 2021, 03:55:41 pm
Zach Merrett v Sam Walsh?

Merrett
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Samsturmfels on June 19, 2021, 10:59:12 am
Greene v Langford?
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on June 19, 2021, 11:41:50 am
Greene v Langford?

Langford intrigues me, won't go near Greene as I have some history of being burnt.
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Thewizz71 on June 19, 2021, 02:22:43 pm
Greene v Langford?

Langford intrigues me, won't go near Greene as I have some history of being burnt.

I'm looking at Langford this week.
Trade Heeney or Poulter?
Title: Re: 2021 Player X vs. Player Y
Post by: Bully on June 19, 2021, 09:35:27 pm
Greene v Langford?

Langford intrigues me, won't go near Greene as I have some history of being burnt.

I'm looking at Langford this week.
Trade Heeney or Poulter?

Poulter is a bit of a butcher so I'd punt him first. Heeney would be ideal to loop with CCJ, reckon you can avoid the nasties by doing it this way.