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I'm thinking one or two top end premiums on this line. Probably Lloyd and Stewart. Zac Williams will be a value pick playing predominantly midfield at Carlton. Newman and Marchbank are the the other two Blues that should be cheap since Newman averaged about 40 off two injured games and Marchbank didn't play at all
Lloyd's price is ridiculous compared to the rest but how can you not start him? Must have IMO.
Whitfield picks himself. Plays where he wants and uses it so well. Safe pick as he will continue to rack em up.
ZWilliams will get midfield time in Carlton's line up. He's cheap compared to some others and looks a good buy.
Milera is the only midpricer I'm considering. Somewhat risky but he will provide run out of half back/wing and could perhaps get some rotation through the mids as well.
They're the ones I've pencilled in.
Of the rest I's say Laird is a great pick, tried and true. He got a lot of midfield time in 2020 and with the exit of Brad Crouch and their struggling and younger list perhaps that continues.
Stewart will probably be up there again and looks to be the best of the intercepting mark types. With longer quarters in 2021 and less scaling on offer he may drop slightly on what we saw in 2020 but he should be one of the safer picks.
Crisp is another I like. He gets a lot of the ball (20+ is not unusual) with rebounds and goal assists features of his play. He should be another good scorer.
Caleb Daniel is another safe pick, another accumulator and good user.
Watch on Jeremy Howe, depending on how he comes back and no need to go looking much further.
What are your thoughts on Caleb Marchbank?
Can’t discount Ridley either. Only 22, just won B&F, averaged 18 possessions, intercept marking king and I think will only get better IMO.
Quote from: tommy10 on January 06, 2021, 08:14:42 PM
Can’t discount Ridley either. Only 22, just won B&F, averaged 18 possessions, intercept marking king and I think will only get better IMO.
Huge Ridley fan (Bombers) hope he goes on with it. Not paying 550k for him though.
Longer quarters will suit the accumulators more in 2021. Ridley and other interceptors will drop off a little I think as there will be less points to scale at the end of quarters. Won't start Ridley but may upgrade to him cheaper and later if his scoring is okay.
Quote from: Fid on January 02, 2021, 12:42:07 PM
What are your thoughts on Caleb Marchbank?
When I saw he was about 280k it was a pass from me. He hasn't played enough footy and won't be a walk up into our 22 to justify it.
Quote from: enzedder on January 07, 2021, 07:41:58 AM
Longer quarters will suit the accumulators more in 2021. Ridley and other interceptors will drop off a little I think as there will be less points to scale at the end of quarters. Won't start Ridley but may upgrade to him cheaper and later if his scoring is okay.
I think Ridley also has the ability to accumulate and uses the ball well so that's a plus. I really want to start him but I want to lock in Lloyd and Williams. I also think Stewart is underpriced due to the injury and hard to pass up at that price. Daniel and Laird are the other two I'm tempted by. There are a lot of great options down back
Quote from: crowls on January 06, 2021, 09:17:41 PM
Quote from: tommy10 on January 06, 2021, 08:14:42 PM
Can’t discount Ridley either. Only 22, just won B&F, averaged 18 possessions, intercept marking king and I think will only get better IMO.
Huge Ridley fan (Bombers) hope he goes on with it. Not paying 550k for him though.
I would pay the $$ for him, but looking at my team Lloyd, Whitfield and Williams are a lock so don't think I can fit him in to start. Definitely a watch and see and hope to get him cheaper. But I have a feeling he'll be taking his game to another level.
Got Williams in last year after his injury and he was pretty disappointing always seems to be be picking up knocks and niggles so will see how he looks at a new club but not the top of my list.
Quote from: shaker on January 21, 2021, 04:58:15 PM
Got Williams in last year after his injury and he was pretty disappointing always seems to be be picking up knocks and niggles so will see how he looks at a new club but not the top of my list.
From FoxFooty...re new roles/positions for 2021
“Star recruit Zac Williams is the obvious one, with the former Giants half-back to be deployed in the midfield at the Blues. Footy fans saw a glimpse of his potential as an on-baller at the Giants â€" his 2019 preliminary final against Collingwood was simply breathtaking â€" so Blues supporters will be hoping Williams can recreate that form at his new club.â€
As a mid and at his price he’s going to be extremely popular. If he fires and you don’t have him you lose a bit to the pack. If you don’t start him and he gets injured and your alternative player does well then you have a leg up. Risky not getting him I’d say but watch his pre season and see how he is travelling.
The other interesting one from the article is Milera. Looks like he’s going to be popular too. Was hoping he might get under the radar a bit but he’s being mentioned everywhere.
“After developing into a classy distributor off half-back, Wayne Milera is set for a switch to the midfield in 2021. The 23-year-old has been training with the club’s on-ball brigade and recently told the club’s website that he sees his long-term future likely away from defence, declaring: “It (the midfield) is where I want to play down the track and I feel I can add a lot to that group.†There have been calls for the recently re-signed Brodie Smith to play as a midfielder-forward, especially after his taste of centre bounce work last year. But the veteran is currently back training with the defensive group and will likely spend 2021 in the back 50.â€
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Quote from: shaker on January 21, 2021, 04:58:15 PM
Got Williams in last year after his injury and he was pretty disappointing always seems to be be picking up knocks and niggles so will see how he looks at a new club but not the top of my list.
From FoxFooty...re new roles/positions for 2021
“Star recruit Zac Williams is the obvious one, with the former Giants half-back to be deployed in the midfield at the Blues. Footy fans saw a glimpse of his potential as an on-baller at the Giants â€" his 2019 preliminary final against Collingwood was simply breathtaking â€" so Blues supporters will be hoping Williams can recreate that form at his new club.â€
As a mid and at his price he’s going to be extremely popular. If he fires and you don’t have him you lose a bit to the pack. If you don’t start him and he gets injured and your alternative player does well then you have a leg up. Risky not getting him I’d say but watch his pre season and see how he is travelling.
The other interesting one from the article is Milera. Looks like he’s going to be popular too. Was hoping he might get under the radar a bit but he’s being mentioned everywhere.
“After developing into a classy distributor off half-back, Wayne Milera is set for a switch to the midfield in 2021. The 23-year-old has been training with the club’s on-ball brigade and recently told the club’s website that he sees his long-term future likely away from defence, declaring: “It (the midfield) is where I want to play down the track and I feel I can add a lot to that group.†There have been calls for the recently re-signed Brodie Smith to play as a midfielder-forward, especially after his taste of centre bounce work last year. But the veteran is currently back training with the defensive group and will likely spend 2021 in the back 50.â€
Haven't entirely ruled him out will see how he used but he dosen't seem durable to me and as for Milera twice burnt 3rd time shy.
Harmes is one I'll be monitoring over the pre-season. If he gets his role back in the mids, could be a viable option as a mid priced defender.
Wowee, ppl still post here!
What's the latest on Howe? Any news?
The guy in the low 400's range I see breaking out is Lukosius. He started stringing together some good scores before tailing off terribly post bye.
Is Jeremy Howe fools gold? 517k and was red hot until the ACL...He's currently in my team
Quote from: IntegralX on February 04, 2021, 03:37:33 PM
Is Jeremy Howe fools gold? 517k and was red hot until the ACL...He's currently in my team
Will he be ready for round 1? It normally takes 12 months for an ACL and he was injured after the restart
Quote from: Mat0369 on February 04, 2021, 08:37:37 PM
Quote from: IntegralX on February 04, 2021, 03:37:33 PM
Is Jeremy Howe fools gold? 517k and was red hot until the ACL...He's currently in my team
Will he be ready for round 1? It normally takes 12 months for an ACL and he was injured after the restart
No idea but I think if he's ready for round 1 he's a must pick, no?
Howe injured his posterior cruciate and medial ligaments he didn't do his ACL
Luke McDonald anyone? Only one season averaging >80 before last year. Averaged 66 for the first seven rounds, then 118 over the last 10 games!
Can he keep that role? If he can has the potential to be one of the top 2 defenders with Lloyd.
Quote from: dmac07 on February 05, 2021, 07:31:32 PM
Luke McDonald anyone? Only one season averaging >80 before last year. Averaged 66 for the first seven rounds, then 118 over the last 10 games!
Can he keep that role? If he can has the potential to be one of the top 2 defenders with Lloyd.
Too many question marks given a new coach for me
Quote from: dmac07 on February 05, 2021, 07:31:32 PM
Luke McDonald anyone? Only one season averaging >80 before last year. Averaged 66 for the first seven rounds, then 118 over the last 10 games!
Can he keep that role? If he can has the potential to be one of the top 2 defenders with Lloyd.
He’s definitely on my watch list.
If he is playing the same role over the practice matches in locking him in.
Quote from: Mat0369 on February 04, 2021, 08:37:37 PM
Quote from: IntegralX on February 04, 2021, 03:37:33 PM
Is Jeremy Howe fools gold? 517k and was red hot until the ACL...He's currently in my team
Will he be ready for round 1? It normally takes 12 months for an ACL and he was injured after the restart
He was almost ready to go end of last season
Quote from: Mat0369 on January 29, 2021, 06:19:41 PM
The guy in the low 400's range I see breaking out is Lukosius. He started stringing together some good scores before tailing off terribly post bye.
Whether its this year or not he has all the tools to average 100. He is a beautiful kick and they like the ball in his hands. At 195cm though he is a very big back flanker and I wonder whether he stays as a pure rebounder, or if he puts on his size and he becomes more a hybrid like a Darcy Moore. Which would make him a great player but not for supercoach.
Quote from: dmac07 on February 05, 2021, 07:31:32 PM
Luke McDonald anyone? Only one season averaging >80 before last year. Averaged 66 for the first seven rounds, then 118 over the last 10 games!
Can he keep that role? If he can has the potential to be one of the top 2 defenders with Lloyd.
Ziebell supposedly taking up a role off halfback plus Aidan Corr to fit in there somewhere? Luke was good in the recent practice match however.
What do people think of Oleg Markov? Only a touch more than Milera, new club, will he walk into the 22 at Gold Coast?
No need to speculate in DEF pick 3 or 4 of Lloyd, Laird, Stewart, Zwill
Whitfield upgrade target pending recovery. Then see how others shape up. Top 8 always changes from start to end of year so happy to let Ryan, Howe, McD pass for now
Anyone keen on Caleb Daniel? Haven't seen his name pop up a great deal.
Insanely consistent, and feel the longer games give him a chance to rack up a few more disposals.
Lloyd - Daniel - Stewart for me at the moment
Quote from: timtim on February 09, 2021, 01:01:46 PM
No need to speculate in DEF pick 3 or 4 of Lloyd, Laird, Stewart, Zwill
Whitfield upgrade target pending recovery. Then see how others shape up. Top 8 always changes from start to end of year so happy to let Ryan, Howe, McD pass for now
Very sensible, I'd add Crisp to the list.
Quote from: shaker on February 05, 2021, 03:42:37 PM
Howe injured his posterior cruciate and medial ligaments he didn't do his ACL
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on February 06, 2021, 10:35:58 AM
He was almost ready to go end of last season
Yup, my bad. Still probably won't pick him this year and I started with him last season. The appeal last year was the price. Yes he is under priced for his 120 odd average, but his best season prior was around a 95.
Whitfield will easily be the best defender. No question.
Isaac Cumming will breakout into premium territory.
Nick Haynes is the best intercepter in the comp and will be top 6.
Zac Williams is an injury prone dud. Do not pick.
Thoughts on A. Pearce from Fremantle. Was Rance like in 1st season but cruelled by injury. Looks like returning to a full season in 2021. $235.6k BE 44
Quote from: RoughRed on February 11, 2021, 02:17:50 AM
Thoughts on A. Pearce from Fremantle. Was Rance like in 1st season but cruelled by injury. Looks like returning to a full season in 2021. $235.6k BE 44
53 games in 6 years and highest score of 88. No Thanks.
Have Milera and happy with him at D4 but with Paton breaking his leg today a defensive spot has opened and Jimmy Webster is the like for like to claim that spot back. He’s 284k. Probably the front runner though I see Highmore is being spoken up about on Twitter. Highmore is taller and probably not as like for like. We’ll see though.
Any love for Docherty?
Started like a house on fire last year then faded hard.. Can he get back above 105+? Love him at his price as an alternative to Williams.
Quote from: jfitty on February 24, 2021, 12:01:21 AM
Any love for Docherty?
Started like a house on fire last year then faded hard.. Can he get back above 105+? Love him at his price as an alternative to Williams.
Honestly tempted to start both. I think he has a nice bounce back with a year of footy into his legs. Saad in means they can't lock down on Doc and when he is at his best a defensive forward doesn't curb his scoring. I think last year he got a couple of niggles and struggled from there. He missed a lot of footy and he didn't want to kiss anymore. He was honestly better off taking a couple of rest games but I understand why he didn't.
The amount of times I've traded Stewart out and in again is nuts. I don't want William's risk and Milera I'm not sold on. I feel like I blew all my luck last year starting Short, I don't think I'll get lucky again so a sure thing in Lloyd Laird Stewart is locked for me. Hoping Chapman DVG and Highmore all play Rnd 1 with Jones and Wehr on the bench.
Hopefully a rookie shortage doesn't screw with this structure.
Quote from: Mat0369 on February 24, 2021, 12:46:45 AM
Quote from: jfitty on February 24, 2021, 12:01:21 AM
Any love for Docherty?
Started like a house on fire last year then faded hard.. Can he get back above 105+? Love him at his price as an alternative to Williams.
Honestly tempted to start both. I think he has a nice bounce back with a year of footy into his legs. Saad in means they can't lock down on Doc and when he is at his best a defensive forward doesn't curb his scoring. I think last year he got a couple of niggles and struggled from there. He missed a lot of footy and he didn't want to kiss anymore. He was honestly better off taking a couple of rest games but I understand why he didn't.
Been surprised there has not been any real love for Doc. Proven performer with excuses for last year. Definitely in my considerations. Lloyd definite, Laird, Stewart, Daniel, Williams, Doc are my D2/3 options depending on money and player fitness.
Quote from: Mat0369 on January 29, 2021, 06:19:41 PM
The guy in the low 400's range I see breaking out is Lukosius. He started stringing together some good scores before tailing off terribly post bye.
He apparently played the majority of the game on the wing. This is after the Ellis interview saying he had a number of players gunning for the wing role including Lukosius
Quote from: Mat0369 on February 28, 2021, 01:19:44 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on January 29, 2021, 06:19:41 PM
The guy in the low 400's range I see breaking out is Lukosius. He started stringing together some good scores before tailing off terribly post bye.
He apparently played the majority of the game on the wing. This is after the Ellis interview saying he had a number of players gunning for the wing role including Lukosius
for sc would rather see him playing HB. good player with breakout potential. not in my considerations though.
Quote from: crowls on February 28, 2021, 11:33:16 PM
for sc would rather see him playing HB. good player with breakout potential. not in my considerations though.
A few players have turned that defensive wing role into SC gold in the past. Zone off a kick behind the play and manufacture the loose for easy intercept possessions. Offensively they try and get the ball in his hands to deliver the ball forward of centre.
Quote from: crowls on February 25, 2021, 10:01:54 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on February 24, 2021, 12:46:45 AM
Quote from: jfitty on February 24, 2021, 12:01:21 AM
Any love for Docherty?
Started like a house on fire last year then faded hard.. Can he get back above 105+? Love him at his price as an alternative to Williams.
Honestly tempted to start both. I think he has a nice bounce back with a year of footy into his legs. Saad in means they can't lock down on Doc and when he is at his best a defensive forward doesn't curb his scoring. I think last year he got a couple of niggles and struggled from there. He missed a lot of footy and he didn't want to kiss anymore. He was honestly better off taking a couple of rest games but I understand why he didn't.
Been surprised there has not been any real love for Doc. Proven performer with excuses for last year. Definitely in my considerations. Lloyd definite, Laird, Stewart, Daniel, Williams, Doc are my D2/3 options depending on money and player fitness.
Brought Doc into my 2021 team for the first time today. Sitting at D4 with ZWilliams at D5.
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Quote from: crowls on February 25, 2021, 10:01:54 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on February 24, 2021, 12:46:45 AM
Quote from: jfitty on February 24, 2021, 12:01:21 AM
Any love for Docherty?
Started like a house on fire last year then faded hard.. Can he get back above 105+? Love him at his price as an alternative to Williams.
Honestly tempted to start both. I think he has a nice bounce back with a year of footy into his legs. Saad in means they can't lock down on Doc and when he is at his best a defensive forward doesn't curb his scoring. I think last year he got a couple of niggles and struggled from there. He missed a lot of footy and he didn't want to kiss anymore. He was honestly better off taking a couple of rest games but I understand why he didn't.
Been surprised there has not been any real love for Doc. Proven performer with excuses for last year. Definitely in my considerations. Lloyd definite, Laird, Stewart, Daniel, Williams, Doc are my D2/3 options depending on money and player fitness.
Brought Doc into my 2021 team for the first time today. Sitting at D4 with ZWilliams at D5.
:)
Have had Doc in and out. My concern is Saad. Would or could his game style reduce Docherty's scoring opportunities ??
:-\
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Quote from: enzedder on March 02, 2021, 11:08:22 AM
Quote from: crowls on February 25, 2021, 10:01:54 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on February 24, 2021, 12:46:45 AM
Quote from: jfitty on February 24, 2021, 12:01:21 AM
Any love for Docherty?
Started like a house on fire last year then faded hard.. Can he get back above 105+? Love him at his price as an alternative to Williams.
Honestly tempted to start both. I think he has a nice bounce back with a year of footy into his legs. Saad in means they can't lock down on Doc and when he is at his best a defensive forward doesn't curb his scoring. I think last year he got a couple of niggles and struggled from there. He missed a lot of footy and he didn't want to kiss anymore. He was honestly better off taking a couple of rest games but I understand why he didn't.
Been surprised there has not been any real love for Doc. Proven performer with excuses for last year. Definitely in my considerations. Lloyd definite, Laird, Stewart, Daniel, Williams, Doc are my D2/3 options depending on money and player fitness.
Brought Doc into my 2021 team for the first time today. Sitting at D4 with ZWilliams at D5.
:)
Have had Doc in and out. My concern is Saad. Would or could his game style reduce Docherty's scoring opportunities ??
:-\
Saad, Docherty, Williams is a conundrum. I recently brought in Saad as my only Blue, at D4 (with Duggan at D5). Line ball choice between the three, but what swayed it for me is that Saad’s role is so defined, and his scoring won’t be affected by anyone. I’m expecting a 95 - 100 average, but hoping for a flat 100 if everyone keeps looking to give him the ball.
Williams and Docherty have higher ceilings, but lower floors.
Don’t want to run with two down back, as I already have Walsh, Cripps, and Dow.
Saad would be my third choice out of all those guys.
With Williams likely taking a rest for round 1 does Short ($519.8k)walk into D3? Paying more but playing.
No Whitfield, no Williams
Or Mills ($544.8K)
Certainly Short had SC friendly game last night. Priced at BE97, played 17 games last year 96.6
Howe looked good on return too and priced the same as Short
Only real issue with Howe apart from injury he also has the problematic Rd 14 bye along with Lloyd and Laird, Mills will share as well.
If Williams out seriously considering Short Current Defenders Lloyd, Laird, McDonald and Williams.
Quote from: Ringo on March 06, 2021, 11:08:46 AM
Only real issue with Howe apart from injury he also has the problematic Rd 14 bye along with Lloyd and Laird, Mills will share as well.
If Williams out seriously considering Short Current Defenders Lloyd, Laird, McDonald and Williams.
Ever the voice of reason - thanks Ringo
Consideration of the byes always catches me
My core 4 defenders are Lloyd, Laird, Williams, Duggan
Williams => Short looks likely for me if William is a scratching R1
Quote from: RoughRed on March 06, 2021, 10:19:43 AM
With Williams likely taking a rest for round 1 does Short ($519.8k)walk into D3? Paying more but playing.
No Whitfield, no Williams
Or Mills ($544.8K)
Certainly Short had SC friendly game last night. Priced at BE97, played 17 games last year 96.6
Howe looked good on return too and priced the same as Short
Small sample size, but the rule changes look to be favouring players like Short who can link up on possessional chains or run past for the get and go out of the backline.
I don't think Short will be a bad pick at all, but I don't think he'll be in the top group of defenders either
His average went up last year, but with the shorter qtrs it would have likely been less
He's not getting 43 touches every week, and Houli returning will impact his scoring imo
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 06, 2021, 12:57:00 PM
I don't think Short will be a bad pick at all, but I don't think he'll be in the top group of defenders either
His average went up last year, but with the shorter qtrs it would have likely been less
He's not getting 43 touches every week, and Houli returning will impact his scoring imo
I think Houlis advanced age plus that performance form Short and the rule changes favouring Short would lead to him entering that tip group of defenders. I’m tossing up between him and Howe for d3. Also considering Stewart but unsure where the money is coming from.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 06, 2021, 12:57:00 PM
I don't think Short will be a bad pick at all, but I don't think he'll be in the top group of defenders either
His average went up last year, but with the shorter qtrs it would have likely been less
He's not getting 43 touches every week, and Houli returning will impact his scoring imo
He's a decent pick but I prefer Caleb Daniel for an extra 30k
He had 43 touches for a score of 160. That's a lot of uncontested pill to be getting
So with the games going back to full length and defenders looking to play on when kicking the ball back into play, I think the intercepters are not going to be as valuable as guys that are the designated kick out specialists.
Ridley
Stewart
Short
Ziebell
All those guys were taking the majority of the kick outs for their teams and all hit the ton. Crisp, Howe, Maynard all scored pretty well for the Pies as well.
Other guys to keep an eye on will be Rich, Daniel and Cumming. Lloyd and Ryan are already the Swans and Dockers guys already.
What’s with the Duggan pre season hype?
Quote from: bkimm32 on March 07, 2021, 09:10:36 AM
What’s with the Duggan pre season hype?
He averaged 96 over the last 9 games of last year, where he is playing much more midfield then. With Yeo a long way off, he is expected to stay in the midfield
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Quote from: bkimm32 on March 07, 2021, 09:10:36 AM
What’s with the Duggan pre season hype?
He averaged 96 over the last 9 games of last year, where he is playing much more midfield then. With Yeo a long way off, he is expected to stay in the midfield
Duggan vs Williams? Tempted to pick Williams even if he misses a round through suspension.
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Quote from: bkimm32 on March 07, 2021, 09:10:36 AM
What’s with the Duggan pre season hype?
He averaged 96 over the last 9 games of last year, where he is playing much more midfield then. With Yeo a long way off, he is expected to stay in the midfield
Duggan vs Williams? Tempted to pick Williams even if he misses a round through suspension.
Is Witherden worth any consideration as well? He's around the same price point. I'll be shifting to either of those (or maybe finding cash for Docherty) if Williams is suspended. He looked good but not
THAT good.
Is anyone consider H.Young and/or J.Webster?
I have both at this stage. Both look as though they will take the half back role, and both will take a decent amount of kick ins (shared with L. Ryan and C. Wilkie), they are a little awkwardly priced at 270-280k (higher than you’d ideally want to outlay for a cash cow) but with the lack of solid defensive rookies I think they are both pretty good to make around 130-150k while scoring about 75-80 most weeks and be an easy stepping stone to a premium around rounds 7-10
I don’t know quite as much about Young, but Webster was a proven premium back in 2018, and while I don’t think he will quite get back to them numbers, I still think he will be a solid edition back into the saints defense, and their will be a spot their waiting for him with Paton out for the season. Both their roles are SuperCoach friendly, both will play all games while healthy, I just don’t see how they can’t score 75+ every week
Webster was not a proven premium at all. He had a nice purple patch one season, but that was it
Young and Clark are the only 2 mid priced defenders in that range I'd personally consider, but Clark has JS concerns and although Young looked good on the weekend, Ryan wasn't out there which is my concern
I'm considering Fantasia as a mid price option. This new man on the mark would really suit him imo.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 10, 2021, 11:59:44 AM
Webster was not a proven premium at all. He had a nice purple patch one season, but that was it
Young and Clark are the only 2 mid priced defenders in that range I'd personally consider, but Clark has JS concerns and although Young looked good on the weekend, Ryan wasn't out there which is my concern
Okay maybe not a proven but a top 6 lock for a season and a half.
I think Clark is a lock in that cats team.
Also I just noticed Jake Lloyd JUST got an injury symbol on SuperCoach? Do they know something we don’t?
Lloyd is fine, and expected to play R1
He missed the weekend due to a knee knock, and it was just precautionary
I think Clark gets a good crack at it this year too - there was talk of him leaving last year and he stayed, so I think he gets games
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 10, 2021, 12:19:26 PM
Lloyd is fine, and expected to play R1
He missed the weekend due to a knee knock, and it was just precautionary
I think Clark gets a good crack at it this year too - there was talk of him leaving last year and he stayed, so I think he gets games
I know why he missed the weekend, but why did SuperCoach only just put the injured emblem on him? They don’t usually do that unless it’s a significant injury and not just a precautionary.
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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 10, 2021, 12:19:26 PM
Lloyd is fine, and expected to play R1
He missed the weekend due to a knee knock, and it was just precautionary
I think Clark gets a good crack at it this year too - there was talk of him leaving last year and he stayed, so I think he gets games
I know why he missed the weekend, but why did SuperCoach only just put the injured emblem on him? They don’t usually do that unless it’s a significant injury and not just a precautionary.
Think they have just updated once the injury lists were updated, Listed those with test and note Flynn has one as well.
Quote from: Ringo on March 10, 2021, 01:19:35 PM
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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 10, 2021, 12:19:26 PM
Lloyd is fine, and expected to play R1
He missed the weekend due to a knee knock, and it was just precautionary
I think Clark gets a good crack at it this year too - there was talk of him leaving last year and he stayed, so I think he gets games
I know why he missed the weekend, but why did SuperCoach only just put the injured emblem on him? They don’t usually do that unless it’s a significant injury and not just a precautionary.
Think they have just updated once the injury lists were updated, Listed those with test and note Flynn has one as well.
Yeah I went and checked the swans board on big footy and couldn’t see anything
Guess he’s staying in. Sucks, I was really looking for an excuse not to start him this season
Is Conor Budarick being overlooked amongst all the mid price defender options? I currently have James Harmes but may downgrade to him or maybe Jiath.
Quote from: TexR74 on March 18, 2021, 03:34:38 PM
Is Conor Budarick being overlooked amongst all the mid price defender options? I currently have James Harmes but may downgrade to him or maybe Jiath.
I seen Joey Montagna had him in his team and it really made me think wtf
Have I missed something? He’s a lockdown small defender, right? He’d be lucky to average 75?
Did anyone watch Duggan? Was he playing mid or def? How did he look?
Quote from: smashbox on March 22, 2021, 07:28:14 PM
Did anyone watch Duggan? Was he playing mid or def? How did he look?
I watched parts of the game and didn't even notice him playing.
Quote from: Wanderer on March 22, 2021, 07:48:13 PM
Quote from: smashbox on March 22, 2021, 07:28:14 PM
Did anyone watch Duggan? Was he playing mid or def? How did he look?
I watched parts of the game and didn't even notice him playing.
He chopped the mullet, which explains the massive drop in output imo ;D
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 22, 2021, 08:02:50 PM
Quote from: Wanderer on March 22, 2021, 07:48:13 PM
Quote from: smashbox on March 22, 2021, 07:28:14 PM
Did anyone watch Duggan? Was he playing mid or def? How did he look?
I watched parts of the game and didn't even notice him playing.
He chopped the mullet, which explains the massive drop in output imo ;D
He is the only player apart from GG who let me down but he gets one more week.
Quote from: shaker on March 22, 2021, 08:15:07 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 22, 2021, 08:02:50 PM
Quote from: Wanderer on March 22, 2021, 07:48:13 PM
Quote from: smashbox on March 22, 2021, 07:28:14 PM
Did anyone watch Duggan? Was he playing mid or def? How did he look?
I watched parts of the game and didn't even notice him playing.
He chopped the mullet, which explains the massive drop in output imo ;D
He is the only player apart from GG who let me down but he gets one more week.
Straight swap to Hunter clark,
Thank me later
Quote from: bkimm32 on March 23, 2021, 12:32:11 AM
Quote from: shaker on March 22, 2021, 08:15:07 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 22, 2021, 08:02:50 PM
Quote from: Wanderer on March 22, 2021, 07:48:13 PM
Quote from: smashbox on March 22, 2021, 07:28:14 PM
Did anyone watch Duggan? Was he playing mid or def? How did he look?
I watched parts of the game and didn't even notice him playing.
He chopped the mullet, which explains the massive drop in output imo ;D
He is the only player apart from GG who let me down but he gets one more week.
Straight swap to Hunter clark,
Thank me later
Yes he got a 96 in community series from 68% TOG and tonned up in R1 lets see how he goes this week Jake Lever is another with 2 tons to watch this week but will give Duggan another week but he will need to improve greatly on his weekend performance.
Yep hunter is the one I’m looking at along with Zac Williams
Getting rid of Duggan and looking at Bowes or Hurn. What do you think?
Quote from: smashbox on March 29, 2021, 09:13:51 AM
Getting rid of Duggan and looking at Bowes or Hurn. What do you think?
I toyed with hurn at the start of the season. Think the new kick in rules really benefit him a lot
Quote from: smashbox on March 29, 2021, 09:13:51 AM
Getting rid of Duggan and looking at Bowes or Hurn. What do you think?
Getting rid of Duggan as well and considering Bowes. I’m assuming he has gotten a change if position to the midfield given his disposal numbers.
Quote from: tkringle on March 29, 2021, 08:46:57 PM
Quote from: smashbox on March 29, 2021, 09:13:51 AM
Getting rid of Duggan and looking at Bowes or Hurn. What do you think?
Getting rid of Duggan as well and considering Bowes. I’m assuming he has gotten a change if position to the midfield given his disposal numbers.
Bowes is doing what he pleases in the backline, taking quite a few kick outs.
Not sure about either of these guys season-long.. Would rather play it safe in defence.
How are we feeling so far with defenders in terms of a top 6/8?
Lloyd, Ridley, Laird you'd think are the locks?
Then you've got Mills, Short, Stewart, Houston Bowes, Doc, Ryan.
Caleb seems to have dropped out of the race.
How do you guys rank these fellas?
Think there's a glut of options, wouldn't even consider a player not in the running for a 100 season.
A Class
Lloyd (110+)
Ridley (110+)
B Class
Laird (105+)
Stewart (100+)
Short (100+)
Docherty (100+)
Houston (100+)
Hurn (100+)
Ryan (100+)
C Class
Mills (95+)
May (90+)
Bowes (90+)
Jiath (90+)
Rich (90+)
Howe (90+)
Crisp (90+)
Daniel (90+)
Right now....
1. Ridley 133
DAYLIGHT
2. Bowes 115.5
3. Houston 112.3
4. Mills 110.8
5. Lloyd 108.3
6. Short 108.3
7. Laird 105.8
8. Jiath 103.8
9. Hartley 102 (1 game)
10. Rich 101.5
11. Houli 101 (1 game)
And that's all who are averaging over 100 to this point
If I could pick a defence from scratch now:
Ridley Lloyd - Best scorers.
Mills Laird - Midfielders.
2 of the best of the rest, I'd probably stick with short and grab houston or put the names in a hat :)
Forgot about Mills, still unsure however, would probably put him in C class to be honest. Think there's better value in grabbing the guys taking kick outs.
I think Bowes should be in the 100+ category. Looks to be doing what he pleases in the backline. Taking kick outs, intercept marking, high possession count, etc.
Still relatively cheap at around $500k. If I didn't have Ridley, I'd get him as a POD. Mills also another great option.
Quote from: tommy10 on April 15, 2021, 12:01:26 PM
I think Bowes should be in the 100+ category. Looks to be doing what he pleases in the backline. Taking kick outs, intercept marking, high possession count, etc.
Still relatively cheap at around $500k. If I didn't have Ridley, I'd get him as a POD. Mills also another great option.
For now he looks good but I suspect the mortgage on kick outs won't last for the entire season. Lukosius the main threat, closest thing to Ridley & I'm backing him to start taking more kick outs.
Great insights lads!
I'm looking at Bowes or Short for Daniel this week. Bowes tempting, but feeling Short is a safer bet given the number of teams he's in.
Thoughts on Zac Williams in a few weeks as a D6 option
Quote from: Fid on April 15, 2021, 06:54:37 PM
Thoughts on Zac Williams in a few weeks as a D6 option
Too much of an injury risk
Quote from: Fid on April 15, 2021, 06:54:37 PM
Thoughts on Zac Williams in a few weeks as a D6 option
Don't do it to yourself
Witherden?
What’s the deal, he’s got the ability, why can this guy hold down a spot?
Is he likely to make way when Hurn returns?
Quote from: Woppa15 on April 23, 2021, 08:07:48 PM
Witherden?
What’s the deal, he’s got the ability, why can this guy hold down a spot?
Is he likely to make way when Hurn returns?
Wouldn’t consider him until I saw him and Hurn in the same side for a couple of weeks.
Taking a chance and going Scholl as a POD
Quote from: Colliwobblers on April 15, 2021, 11:21:44 AM
Right now....
1. Ridley 133
DAYLIGHT
2. Bowes 115.5
3. Houston 112.3
4. Mills 110.8
5. Lloyd 108.3
6. Short 108.3
7. Laird 105.8
8. Jiath 103.8
9. Hartley 102 (1 game)
10. Rich 101.5
11. Houli 101 (1 game)
And that's all who are averaging over 100 to this point
If I could pick a defence from scratch now:
Ridley Lloyd - Best scorers.
Mills Laird - Midfielders.
2 of the best of the rest, I'd probably stick with short and grab houston or put the names in a hat :)
Quote from: Bully on April 15, 2021, 08:55:48 AM
Think there's a glut of options, wouldn't even consider a player not in the running for a 100 season.
A Class
Lloyd (110+)
Ridley (110+)
B Class
Laird (105+)
Stewart (100+)
Short (100+)
Docherty (100+)
Houston (100+)
Hurn (100+)
Ryan (100+)
C Class
Mills (95+)
May (90+)
Bowes (90+)
Jiath (90+)
Rich (90+)
Howe (90+)
Crisp (90+)
Daniel (90+)
Ridley Lloyd -
Laird, Mills -
Stewart, Ryan,
Doc,
Short, Houston, Hurn, - Brought in Short over Mills last week and already have buyers regret. Lloyd my last DEF to bring unless I move Laird to Mids and grab Mills or Ryan one week. Anybody who has Cripps, Taranto, Kelly etc would be glad to have Laird in the mids over them.
Watching this year it is like Lloyd ran a SC pigeon summer camp for Zeiball, Short, Bowes. Ugly footy but effective for SC. Lloyd must have a bonus clause in his contract for pigeon stats.
Hurn back this week which means he'll be around 430k in a fortnight. Those with an underperforming mid might want to consider trading & swinging Laird to the mids.
My backs are/ will be: Stewart, Ridley, Lloyd, Laird, Short, Scholl with Frederick and Highmore on the bench.
I have 102k Fyfe in mids for Laird/Scholl DPP.
Weighing up getting May in whilst he is so cheap v Marshall forward. Think I will have to pass as my defence is shored up and I want Rowe off my field.
May looks a great buy now. I’d be trading Berry out of mids if I got May.
Quote from: enzedder on May 03, 2021, 05:33:46 PM
My backs are/ will be: Stewart, Ridley, Lloyd, Laird, Short, Scholl with Frederick and Highmore on the bench.
I have 102k Fyfe in mids for Laird/Scholl DPP.
Weighing up getting May in whilst he is so cheap v Marshall forward. Think I will have to pass as my defence is shored up and I want Rowe off my field.
May looks a great buy now. I’d be trading Berry out of mids if I got May.
I am looking at trading out Rowe as well, only if he is selected to play. I feel that he may get dropped, and if so he can wait a week. Atm I am looking at trading out Gulden.
Quote from: Fid on May 03, 2021, 05:55:08 PM
Quote from: enzedder on May 03, 2021, 05:33:46 PM
My backs are/ will be: Stewart, Ridley, Lloyd, Laird, Short, Scholl with Frederick and Highmore on the bench.
I have 102k Fyfe in mids for Laird/Scholl DPP.
Weighing up getting May in whilst he is so cheap v Marshall forward. Think I will have to pass as my defence is shored up and I want Rowe off my field.
May looks a great buy now. I’d be trading Berry out of mids if I got May.
I am looking at trading out Rowe as well, only if he is selected to play. I feel that he may get dropped, and if so he can wait a week. Atm I am looking at trading out Gulden.
Makes sense.
Shannon Hurn vs Lachie Whitfield
Hurn has 4 tons & is averaging 108 once you take out the injury game. Should be around 406k
Whitfield slowly increasing his TOG and is looking like a top 6 defender, 100k more expensive but very bye friendly.
Critical decision coming up, not sure really, slightly favouring Hurn at this stage.
Only worry is Hurn injury prone and managed games
I think I'll see how Hurn goes this week and if he pulls out another good score I'll grab him after his bye, and if he doesn't I'll grab Whitfield
Quote from: Bluesalltheway on June 01, 2021, 03:02:45 PM
I think I'll see how Hurn goes this week and if he pulls out another good score I'll grab him after his bye, and if he doesn't I'll grab Whitfield
This
90% grabbing Hurn, but most likely after his bye - even with a solid score this week he should still be 420k or so which is too hard to pass up
It's the bye that kills it with Hurn this week, will hold off & grab him round 14 in all likelihood.
Quote from: Bully on June 01, 2021, 03:42:54 PM
It's the bye that kills it with Hurn this week, will hold off & grab him round 14 in all likelihood.
Yeah agree. If I have the cash leading up to Round 14, I would try my best to do Highmore to Hurn and have Laird as M8.
What about Darcy Moore
Houston is cheaper with a better bye. I'd also pick Lever and Harmes ahead of him as cheaper options