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Title: The 2019 Disaster
Post by: TomK on August 25, 2019, 11:32:19 PM
Forum's dead but need to vent so I don't care.

I don't even know where to start, the whole club is in dire state from top to bottom, from the coaches, the selection panel, the football department, the CEO, to the chairman is all filled with people who are either unqualified, delusional, full of spin, or incompetent.

The coaches and the selection panel, specifically Pyke from what he says in the media, are still living in 2017 and believe this senior group of players are still good enough. We have a garbage game plan, there is no fast ball movement, and our constant backing of senior players, despite the fact they prove time and time again that they aren't good enough, says all you need to know about the current set-up of the club, they breed mediocrity and the culture within the playing group that experience is more important than performance. All this considered, Pyke can piss off please and thank you.

In no other club around the league would ROB be playing SANFL for a cooked 31 year old Sam Jacobs after the year he had, he is one of the only positives for us this season and the club still managed to flower that up. Apparently Sauce expected to be straight back into the side after his injury and the lead ruck spot was his, not on merit, but because he was the senior player and that's just how it is, ROB playing well was irrelevant. Add in Talia saying on radio ''I had to play SANFL for the first years'' when speaking about Fogarty getting a game, it is a joke and too many players have got too comfortable with their gold passes thinking they run the club.

Mark Ricciuto saying today ''Whatever decision has to be made from top to bottom will be made for the betterment of the football club and the supporters should back our people in and if they don't, well then maybe they don't need to barrack for the footy club anymore'' is one of the most disgusting things to come out of this club, no flowering worries Roo, consider my membership cancelled then you fool. He's putting himself and his mates before the club's and supporter's best interests. It honestly sums up the whole club's attitude that we are lucky to have such an outstanding run club by the best football department in the league, give me a flowering break you arrogant tools. Ricciuto is a massive problem at the football club, he is the main reason why it is a boy's club now, here is the list of all the ex-Crows, aka Roo's mates, at the club =

Board Member = Rod Jameson
COO = Nigel Smart
Head of Football = Brett Burton
FWD Coach = Ben Hart
Ruck/AFLW Coach = Matthew Clarke
DEF Coach = Marty Mattner
Development Coaches = Matthew Wright, Brett Reilly, Paul Thomas
Runner/Academy Coach = Jason Porplyzia
Events Executive = Matthew Robran

Brett Burton is one of the main problems from that list, he is utterly incompetent, he ruined the Lions when he was there, along with Matt Hass who is now our High Performance Manager, and he was behind the Collective Minds bullshower last year and should've been sacked right then on the spot. I fear after Roo's comments though we will be stuck with this useless hack for quite a while.

A few of our on-field issues though, we have a lazy, unaccountable midfield that can't kick, is flat footed at centre bounces allowing opposition midfields to easily get it out, and is incredibly slow. Every time I saw a midfield set up of Crouch, Crouch, and Sloane I just instantly conceded we'd be losing that centre bounce. Our forward structure is one of the worst in the league, which isn't helped by our slow ball movement but still, the amount of times we were going forward this year where the only option up the field is either Eddie Betts or Lachie Murphy in a contested marking situation where they have to fly over packs is unbelievable. It's not all surprising really when you have a two time failed assistant coach in Ben Hart as your forward coach to be honest, he should join Burton on the way out. I guarantee you when I say that ANY forward would struggle in our current set up.

Thoughts on a few players:

Hugh Greenwood: Average year not helped by another interrupted pre-season. 28 start of next year, in a position where we are already slow, and wanting a 4 year deal, looking at it from a completely unbias viewpoint I can understand why the club is most likely going to trade him while he has value and we're heading into a rebuild. ily hugh :-*

Riley Knight: your classic list clogger, please go

Jenkins: Plays his role well in a team that moves the ball quickly, aka Crows 2015-17, but bit of a flog so looking forward to having him out the club

Bryce Gibbs: This trade makes me want to puke now, looks like an uninterested, lazy hack now, trade for a bag of peanuts and that's probably insulting to the peanuts

Gallucci: This bloke sitting in the SANFL while we continued to give useless games to Richard Douglas and David Mackay is both pathetic and unsurprising, needs to be played in a midfield role, not stuck on a HFF

Sloane: Love Sloaney but why does he get absolutely 0 criticism, especially when you consider his fellow co-captain cops it from everywhere? Very, very average second half of the year, after his first half was very good, and continues to struggle making an impact when he gets attention on him. If one of the Crouch Bros aren't traded, I think he needs to change his role to one of the flanks allowing more speed into middle. Heart of the club so needs a big pre-season.

Tex: Pretty inconsistent year but still managed to finish 9th in the league for goals with 43 and don't think you can question his effort. He wasn't helped by a few things I mentioned above, a shower forward structure, a midfield that can't kick (especially inside 50), and our slow ball movement, so considering all that I'd say he had an okay year, not great, but not as bad as some like to think. Needs to drop more KGs for 2020. Mainly cops it from flogs who think they're experts

Mackay: This bloke playing 220 games for the club shows you how much they accept mediocrity, nothing against David, I'm sure he's a great bloke and he doesn't pick himself, but we'll be better off once we're unable to pick him for the seniors

Eddie: Hope he stays around to finish his contract off but only as depth, just a terrific person to have at the club and would be a shame to lose him

Jones: It's crazy that in the past two weeks when Chayce has gone into middle he has looked great and we've managed to get the centre clearance, absolute joke he played majority SANFL this year and should be playing 22 next year as a full time mid thanks

Atkins: go away and never come back

Jacobs: Great player for the club in his prime but we should be letting him go, never should have been brought back for ROB

Douglas: It's a shame when a player plays on a year or two too long, can't blame him for that, gotta get payed, but these past two years have really soured a good career.

Tom Lynch: Prime trade candidate to a contender while he has value, and with Fog and Himmelberg needing games next year most likely with Tex, it would be beneficial to move him on to bring some more pace and pressure into the fwd mix

Alex Keath: Really big bright light for us this year but, like Hugh, he is 28 next year so trading at his age while he has value makes sense, but one thing he has going for him is there's not as much depth in his position like there is for Hugh, so I wouldn't be surprised if we open up the chequebook from that perspective but not bothered either way

I could keep going with some others but this is getting too long and I'm getting bored of typing but I think that's most of it :P Just quickly, trade targets should be Luko, Francis, and Fantasia who I've heard rumours about all of them. And to finish, another issue at the club is our work in the media, the amount of spin we keep dribbling out is tiring, specifically from Chapman and Fagan, both frauds.
Title: Re: The 2019 Disaster
Post by: Nige on August 25, 2019, 11:54:45 PM
This is my favourite post on the forum.
Title: Re: The 2019 Disaster
Post by: Mat0369 on August 25, 2019, 11:56:50 PM
I like that we get pick 8 to go along with Stocker
Title: Re: The 2019 Disaster
Post by: TomK on August 25, 2019, 11:59:08 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on August 25, 2019, 11:56:50 PM
I like that we get pick 8 to go along with Stocker
And we'll enjoy pick 3.

Tell me a club that wouldn't trade pick 8 + pick 19 for pick 3? I'll wait.
Title: Re: The 2019 Disaster
Post by: Grazz on August 26, 2019, 12:02:41 AM
Agree with pretty much all of that.
Jenkins can bugger off, to many games where he gives nothing, ok you're not hitting the scoreboard
work harder and give something of use to the team and a bit of a flog as you said lol.

Your stats on Tex says yeh it's been ok. Been dirty on him a few times this year
but you're right the delivery has been shower from our mids and others, it's poor
they way we transition forward. This is a very slow team and on a lot of lines.
I'd like to see Tex up the ground more and delivering the ball he's got a good leg.

Don't get me started on the boys club that Adelaide FC is off the field i'll be here all night.................
I'll just say it's a flowering disgrace from top to bottom. If your keeping Pyke sack the other
White Goodmans and let him pick his own coaches, cause this lot is shower.
Title: Re: The 2019 Disaster
Post by: Grazz on August 26, 2019, 12:04:38 AM
Quote from: TomK on August 25, 2019, 11:59:08 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on August 25, 2019, 11:56:50 PM
I like that we get pick 8 to go along with Stocker
And we'll enjoy pick 3.

Tell me a club that wouldn't trade pick 8 + pick 19 for pick 3? I'll wait.

Not being a smart arse but a genuine question were we even chasing Stocker ?
Title: Re: The 2019 Disaster
Post by: Mat0369 on August 26, 2019, 12:06:53 AM
And where would Stocker sit in the draft this year? It was supposed to be a deeper draft last year so it's a win for us netting Stocker with a year of development and a top 10 pick (which we will likely trade) this year
Title: Re: The 2019 Disaster
Post by: Grazz on August 26, 2019, 12:08:19 AM
Quote from: Grazz on August 26, 2019, 12:04:38 AM
Quote from: TomK on August 25, 2019, 11:59:08 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on August 25, 2019, 11:56:50 PM
I like that we get pick 8 to go along with Stocker
And we'll enjoy pick 3.

Tell me a club that wouldn't trade pick 8 + pick 19 for pick 3? I'll wait.

Not being a smart arse but a genuine question were we even chasing Stocker ?

Anyone ?
Title: Re: The 2019 Disaster
Post by: TomK on August 26, 2019, 12:13:16 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on August 26, 2019, 12:06:53 AM
And where would Stocker sit in the draft this year? It was supposed to be a deeper draft last year so it's a win for us netting Stocker with a year of development and a top 10 pick (which we will likely trade) this year
I'm not sure, I don't deal with hypotheticals that can't eventuate, but that's nice, let's call it a win win and you can go start a wankfest on the Carlton board.

Quote from: Grazz on August 26, 2019, 12:08:19 AM
Quote from: Grazz on August 26, 2019, 12:04:38 AM
Quote from: TomK on August 25, 2019, 11:59:08 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on August 25, 2019, 11:56:50 PM
I like that we get pick 8 to go along with Stocker
And we'll enjoy pick 3.

Tell me a club that wouldn't trade pick 8 + pick 19 for pick 3? I'll wait.

Not being a smart arse but a genuine question were we even chasing Stocker ?

Anyone ?
Ogilvie said on the AFL Road to the Draft podcast the other week that we would've been less likely to do the deal if Duursma was still available at our pick, but he wasn't definitive either way, he didn't say anything about our interest in Stocker from memory.
Title: Re: The 2019 Disaster
Post by: Grazz on August 26, 2019, 12:20:03 AM
Quote from: TomK on August 26, 2019, 12:13:16 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on August 26, 2019, 12:06:53 AM
And where would Stocker sit in the draft this year? It was supposed to be a deeper draft last year so it's a win for us netting Stocker with a year of development and a top 10 pick (which we will likely trade) this year
That's nice, let's call it a win win and you can go start a wankfest on the Carlton board.

Quote from: Grazz on August 26, 2019, 12:08:19 AM
Quote from: Grazz on August 26, 2019, 12:04:38 AM
Quote from: TomK on August 25, 2019, 11:59:08 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on August 25, 2019, 11:56:50 PM
I like that we get pick 8 to go along with Stocker
And we'll enjoy pick 3.

Tell me a club that wouldn't trade pick 8 + pick 19 for pick 3? I'll wait.

Not being a smart arse but a genuine question were we even chasing Stocker ?

Anyone ?
Ogilvie said on the AFL Road to the Draft podcast the other week that we would've been less likely to do the deal if Duursma was still available at our pick, but he wasn't definitive either way, he didn't say anything about our interest in Stocker from memory.

Cheers mate, I can honestly say I never heard anyone from the club mention him, media included and didn't hear any rumours of us looking at him on any social media sites. I don't know what Carlton people heard in Vic or elsewhere that we didn't hear in SA in the bubble of the press/media etc at that time of year. Where did " we wanted him even come from".
Keep seeing it thrown up though.
Title: Re: The 2019 Disaster
Post by: DazBurg on August 26, 2019, 08:33:36 AM
love the post Tom, enjoyed the read love the passion

with the stocker thing i think it was more they wanted to get ahead of other teams that may of taken him
(not 100% on this but vaguely remember reading that was why they traded up)
think it was a case of whoever was more likely to do a deal so they could get stocker as he would be gone by their next pick

no that they were worried crows would take him
either way i think in hindsight has worked out well for both clubs
Title: Re: The 2019 Disaster
Post by: Ringo on August 26, 2019, 11:06:12 AM
Can hear your pain Tom and Grazz but live in hope that the right decisions will be made off field and you can turn it around. You can follow our blue print we were shocking 5 years ago worse than you were but getting the right people off the field changed that.
Sorry for giving you Burton and Hass but look at our injury record this year with the medical staff we have.
Title: Re: The 2019 Disaster
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 26, 2019, 11:37:28 AM
Adelaide football director Mark Ricciuto has clarified his comments telling fans to trust the process after the Crows’ disappointing end to 2019.

In an interview on Sunday Ricciuto said fans who didn’t agree with the club’s process “don’t need to barrack for the footy club” before clarifying his position on Triple M Breakfast on Monday morning.

“That didn’t come out right and I want to fix that up,’’ Ricciuto said.

“I respect and love the Adelaide Football Club supporters, always have and always will. “Absolutely they’re entitled to their opinion, I was probably referring to a very small amount of the supporters who are never happy no mater what happens.

“I 100 per cent take back that comment, I didn’t quite get that right,’’ he said.

The Crows won just two games after the bye beating only Gold Coast and St Kilda before finishing the 2019 season with a 34-point loss to the Western Bulldogs on Sunday.

And Ricciuto said they would leave no stone unturned in trying to turn things around in the off season.

“The review of the football department and the club means everyone is reviewed, whether it me or Chappy (Chairman Rob Chapman) or the boot studder or the fitness coach,’’ Ricciuto added.

“Absolutely everyone you have to look at to make sure you have the right footy department,’’ he added.

“If anyone has got to go, whether it’s me, Pykey (coach Don Pyke) or Brett Burton or the captain (Taylor Walker), the club is more important than the individual.

“The club will do an internal review as we always do and they’ll do an external review with people have got nothing to do with the football club and then get the information from both and make a decision form there.

“That’s what the supporters want and that’s what the supporters will get.

“Everyone wants the right thing for the Adelaide Football Club and I’m certainly not going to stand in the way. If I’m the problem I’ll be gone and I’m sure if Pykey knew he’d be gone as well,’’ he said,.
Title: Re: The 2019 Disaster
Post by: shaker on August 26, 2019, 01:43:02 PM
Haha thought Ricciuto would be back pedalling like crazy after such an arrogant comment still think supporters will hold him to task , all this talk of offloading quality players is a bit puzzling sure the obvious ones but the Crouch boys is a bit of over reaction list is good just need to play more young blokes next year , would ROB got a game this year if Jacobs didn't get injured ?
Seems to me the people running and coaching the club are the problem not the players.
Title: Re: The 2019 Disaster
Post by: Grazz on August 26, 2019, 03:17:19 PM
Quote from: Ringo on August 26, 2019, 11:06:12 AM
Can hear your pain Tom and Grazz but live in hope that the right decisions will be made off field and you can turn it around. You can follow our blue print we were shocking 5 years ago worse than you were but getting the right people off the field changed that.
Sorry for giving you Burton and Hass but look at our injury record this year with the medical staff we have.

Cheers Ringo,still have little faith our club will make the tough calls as your's did. I think there may be more of this until they wake up.

Thanks RD didn't hear that interview. Roo attempted last night on twitter to walk the first statement back in a poor way.


Mark Ricciuto
@markricciuto
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Replying to
@TheNTNews

@Fages1
and 2 others
Im sorry for my choice of words at the end they definitely didn’t come out as intended. I respect 99% of Crows fans & their opinions, I also love the club as much as anyone possibly could that’s why I do the role I do at the club. Listen to the full interview if you have time.
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The supporters were unhappy with this 2nd statement telling him he should respect the opinion of 100% of it's supporters not just those he agrees with as Football Director.
It was another bit of a backhander suggesting it's only 1% of the club that are dismayed with what's going on at the club on and off the field which is naive of him. At the Pies_Crows game the last at home 90% of the fans seated around me were all cutting crook at the club for reasons Tom mentioned and more. Other twitter uses stated the same was happening where they were sitting for a large chunk of the season particularly after the byes.

He still believed it's a very small % of supporters that are disgruntled  ie 1% but 99% are content with the clubs direction, he's with them. It's laughable and tbh todays statement is another walk back of the 2nd statement which blew up as much as the 1st one. It's taken him three goes to get it right and anyone thinking the 3rd statement is his real authentic statement is probably also a little naive.
I don't doubt that his feelings are closer to the first two statements and the third was a reaction to someone higher up up telling him to pull his head in and issue this statement and quickly to quell the anger he's created.

There wouldn't be to many other ex Crows players the fans love and respected more than Roo for obvious reasons but sometimes great players don't become great coaches or management. There's no doubt in my mind he's helped create a boys club at Adelaide FC and he defends his mates and the direction they're going everytime it's been questioned and he's still doing it.

Chapman and Roo still saying it is in no way a boys club, i'll let you all decide how much credit you give to those statements.


Director of Football: Mark Riccuito
Board Member: Rod Jameson
COO: Nigel Smart
Head of Football: Brett Burton
FWD coach: Ben Hart
Ruck/AFLW coach: Marty Clarke
DEF coach: Marty Mattner
DEV coaches: Matty Wright, Brent Reilly, Paul Thomas
Runner/Academy Coach: Jason Porplyzia
High Performance Manager: Matt Hass
List Manager: Justin Reid
Events executive: Matthew Robran

And to add insult to injury there's not alot of coaching lists at clubs that are worse than this lot and those that are certainly aren't worth emulating.

Since the camp it's my belief they lost the players then and there by keeping Burton the organiser of some new age nut jobs to come in and flower with the players minds. The dickhead should of been sacked not long after or immediately after that crap.
Then and there began the downfall and just a short 44 games later from what we were in 2017 I give you the present day Crows
we have right now because the club backed the coaching group and not the players as they probably should of..
Rumour has it there's 4-5 that want out because of this and the coaching group in general.

If were going to keep Pyke till his contract expires then lets let him pick his own coaches not those that Roo and others think he needs and deadwood that's been there to long now. Give the bloke a chance on his terms if he's to stay.

I'm usually a quiet supporter you don't see me ark up very often and you can go back through history and see rarely will I comment on anything whether I agree or disagree. I rant with Dudge and me brother in law but very very rarely make it public here or on social media.
There comes a point when you've witnessed enough of a shower show with scant disregard for change that even supporters like me can't keep your mouth shut anymore the frustration is far to strong.

Title: Re: The 2019 Disaster
Post by: Rusty00 on August 26, 2019, 03:19:30 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on August 26, 2019, 08:33:36 AM
with the stocker thing i think it was more they wanted to get ahead of other teams that may of taken him
(not 100% on this but vaguely remember reading that was why they traded up)
think it was a case of whoever was more likely to do a deal so they could get stocker as he would be gone by their next pick

no that they were worried crows would take him
either way i think in hindsight has worked out well for both clubs
From memory I think Richmond was interested in Stocker so Carlton wanted to beat them to the punch. Could be wrong though.

It's good publicity and stirs up heaps of debate online, but the trade didn't really turn out to be a big deal either way. If Carlton had finished bottom and the Crows Top 4, then it would obviously have been a massive bust by SOS. Can't really judge a "winner" until we see what sort of career Stocker and this years respective picks have.
Title: Re: The 2019 Disaster
Post by: TomK on August 26, 2019, 04:19:22 PM
Quote from: Grazz on August 26, 2019, 03:17:19 PM
If were going to keep Pyke till his contract expires then lets let him pick his own coaches not those that Roo and others think he needs and deadwood that's been there to long now. Give the bloke a chance on his terms if he's to stay.
I somewhat agree with this, there's no doubt the blokes around Pyke are useless so it would be interesting to see how he goes with assistants that know what they're doing, but Pyke doesn't do himself any favours with selection which is a main reason why we are where we are. In saying that, if Pyke goes before Burton, Campo, and Hart, I'll be incredibly disappointed, either they all go or we give Pyke one last chance with competence around him to see if he can adapt to a rebuild.

Granted it is tough to attract quality assistant coaches to a place like Adelaide, but money talks and instead we just cheap out on blokes like Hart and Godden as last minute options and we suffer because of it.

I also think Roo's comments could actually be a blessing in disguise because there is no way they can sit on their hands and act like everything is rosy now after the backlash they've faced and all the memberships in the microwave ;D
Title: Re: The 2019 Disaster
Post by: TomK on August 26, 2019, 05:05:50 PM
https://www.afc.com.au/news/2019-08-26/club-statement

The Adelaide Football Club has commenced a review of its football operations, which takes on added significance this year given a decline in on-field performance.

The review will be conducted by a panel of external experts in their chosen field who have knowledge and experience across the various elements of football and high performance programs.

The scope of the analysis will include all elements that impact on-field performance, including but not limited to coaching, leadership, development, environment, high performance and list management.
Title: Re: The 2019 Disaster
Post by: Grazz on August 26, 2019, 05:24:02 PM
Quote from: TomK on August 26, 2019, 04:19:22 PM
Quote from: Grazz on August 26, 2019, 03:17:19 PM
If were going to keep Pyke till his contract expires then lets let him pick his own coaches not those that Roo and others think he needs and deadwood that's been there to long now. Give the bloke a chance on his terms if he's to stay.
I somewhat agree with this, there's no doubt the blokes around Pyke are useless so it would be interesting to see how he goes with assistants that know what they're doing, but Pyke doesn't do himself any favours with selection which is a main reason why we are where we are. In saying that, if Pyke goes before Burton, Campo, and Hart, I'll be incredibly disappointed, either they all go or we give Pyke one last chance with competence around him to see if he can adapt to a rebuild.

Granted it is tough to attract quality assistant coaches to a place like Adelaide, but money talks and instead we just cheap out on blokes like Hart and Godden as last minute options and we suffer because of it.

I also think Roo's comments could actually be a blessing in disguise because there is no way they can sit on their hands and act like everything is rosy now after the backlash they've faced and all the memberships in the microwave ;D

Yeh I agree with all that again mate, I'm still not sold on Pyke either has he lost the players aswell ? if not I think he's got 2 years to go let him have the team around him he wants then successful or not we'll be in no doubt of his ability.

We seem to have become a club all about making a $, bugger off this E Sport rubbish and concentrate on footy and pay what it takes to get decent assistants. They don't fall off trees so this is problematic in itself considering the shower we're in at the minute.
We need a few now, are they even there and or available. These conversations needed to be happening earlier probably.


I agree 100% the material for the bonfire has been building and building for awhile all it took was a comment by Roo for someone to chuck a match on it and woosh up she went and that's a good thing because now it's out there.
The media will jump on to the reaction I hope and put further pressure on the club either way they've been called out now by supporters, this won't be the end of the conversation if things don't change much.

Both clubs in this State are rooted for varying reasons, this State won't sit idle while all this goes down. Both supporter bases are pissed off for different reasons and I expect both clubs to be roasted in the media and by fans over the next 6 months.

I know some people interstate can't stand us but we're a proud State when it comes to footy and what's happening now has most of the AFL footy fans up in arms about it. It won't be pleasant working at either club for awhile. I tip Port to fix their shower before us though.

Quote from: TomK on August 26, 2019, 05:05:50 PM
https://www.afc.com.au/news/2019-08-26/club-statement

The Adelaide Football Club has commenced a review of its football operations, which takes on added significance this year given a decline in on-field performance.

The review will be conducted by a panel of external experts in their chosen field who have knowledge and experience across the various elements of football and high performance programs.

The scope of the analysis will include all elements that impact on-field performance, including but not limited to coaching, leadership, development, environment, high performance and list management.

Good let's see who'll be on the panel and what comes of it.
Title: Re: The 2019 Disaster
Post by: TomK on August 26, 2019, 05:30:37 PM
Quote from: Grazz on August 26, 2019, 05:24:02 PM
Quote from: TomK on August 26, 2019, 05:05:50 PM
https://www.afc.com.au/news/2019-08-26/club-statement

The Adelaide Football Club has commenced a review of its football operations, which takes on added significance this year given a decline in on-field performance.

The review will be conducted by a panel of external experts in their chosen field who have knowledge and experience across the various elements of football and high performance programs.

The scope of the analysis will include all elements that impact on-field performance, including but not limited to coaching, leadership, development, environment, high performance and list management.

Good let's see who'll be on the panel and what comes of it.
Renowned high performance expert Tim Gabbett, who has more than two decades of international experience working with athletes across a range of sports, and one of the country’s premier leadership and performance experts Jonah Oliver, who is also the lead sports psychologist for the Australian Institute of Sport, will be among those involved in the review.

Some further football specific appointments will be added to what will be a four-member panel in coming days and it is anticipated the review will take several weeks to complete.
Title: Re: The 2019 Disaster
Post by: Grazz on August 26, 2019, 05:31:36 PM
I don't know how you feel about Ratten Tom but I reckon the guy has a good footy brain and if Saints don't move on him
I wouldn't mind us throwing some decent coin at him to see if we can even have a conversation atleast with him about an assistants
role here and could he be persuaded to leave Vic.
Title: Re: The 2019 Disaster
Post by: Grazz on August 26, 2019, 05:34:55 PM
Quote from: TomK on August 26, 2019, 05:30:37 PM
Quote from: Grazz on August 26, 2019, 05:24:02 PM
Quote from: TomK on August 26, 2019, 05:05:50 PM
https://www.afc.com.au/news/2019-08-26/club-statement

The Adelaide Football Club has commenced a review of its football operations, which takes on added significance this year given a decline in on-field performance.

The review will be conducted by a panel of external experts in their chosen field who have knowledge and experience across the various elements of football and high performance programs.

The scope of the analysis will include all elements that impact on-field performance, including but not limited to coaching, leadership, development, environment, high performance and list management.

Good let's see who'll be on the panel and what comes of it.
Renowned high performance expert Tim Gabbett, who has more than two decades of international experience working with athletes across a range of sports, and one of the country’s premier leadership and performance experts Jonah Oliver, who is also the lead sports psychologist for the Australian Institute of Sport, will be among those involved in the review.

Some further football specific appointments will be added to what will be a four-member panel in coming days and it is anticipated the review will take several weeks to complete.

Cheers for that mate, I need to go and hunt around and see whats being said out there, I been here awhile having a whinge.
Title: Re: The 2019 Disaster
Post by: TomK on August 26, 2019, 05:46:23 PM
Quote from: Grazz on August 26, 2019, 05:31:36 PM
I don't know how you feel about Ratten Tom but I reckon the guy has a good footy brain and if Saints don't move on him
I wouldn't mind us throwing some decent coin at him to see if we can even have a conversation atleast with him about an assistants
role here and could he be persuaded to leave Vic.
I wouldn't be against that at all
Title: Re: The 2019 Disaster
Post by: Grazz on August 26, 2019, 07:13:44 PM
Another point to this Review, I'd seriously like to know sooner than later who'll be leading it
otherwise other than a couple of others it could resemble a review most clubs should perform at the
end of the season. Who is running it is important t the outcome, is it one from the boys club
overseeing it.
Title: Re: The 2019 Disaster
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 28, 2019, 01:41:40 PM
Dual Adelaide premiership coach Malcolm Blight has launched an extraordinary attack on his former club, saying “this is the weakest’’ he has ever seen it.

Taking aim at the Crows’ decision to have an external review following consecutive seasons without finals, Blight said: “you can talk about coaching, you can talk about player recruitment, you can talk about list management.

“But to actually do this, to have an external review on what a lot of people are getting paid internally to actually make those decisions, I think this is the weakest I’ve seen the Adelaide Football Club.

“An external review, on a football club, on the players, no, because they are all on holidays.

“So how are they going to judge the coaching fraternity, from (senior coach) Don Pyke down?

“How are they going to judge what they do with the players, which is the business of the football club when the players aren’t there?

“It is stupid, mediocrity at its best, it is a lack of leadership.

“I’m telling you now, it is one of the worst decisions I have ever seen, and I don’t care who says what, because how can you judge a coach when the players aren’t there to see what they do?’’

One of the pre-season flag favourites after making the 2017 grand final and entering the year with a fit playing list, it finished 11th with a 10-12 record after losing seven of its last nine games.

The review could cost senior club figures, including Pyke and football manager Brett Burton their jobs.

A fired-up and angry Blight, who led the Crows to their only premierships in 1997 and 1998, went on a rant on his Sportsday SA radio program, saying any review should be kept internal and be ongoing.

“That assessment is made every week, every match committee you go there and discuss everything about the football club, the CEO, the football manager and board should all come into it,’’ he said.

Blight said the Crows were at their lowest ebb, pointing out that they’d had only two “spikes’’ in the past decade.

“That is the most disturbing thing and I’m as disappointed as anyone, that over a 10-year period, other than a couple of little blips, they go straight back down again,’’ he said.

“This is the last 10 years of Adelaide â€" 11th, 14th, third, 11th, 10th, sixth, sixth, second, 12th and 11th.

“Two years of spike in 10 is mediocre, it’s terrible. This is a mediocre football club and until someone actually grabs it by the throat and changes it, it’s going to continue.

“It was a strong football club that has gone backwards 100 miles an hour and now they call for an external review, you’re joking.’’
Title: Re: The 2019 Disaster
Post by: GoLions on August 28, 2019, 01:55:49 PM
Ooft.
Title: Re: The 2019 Disaster
Post by: TomK on August 28, 2019, 10:58:35 PM
Somewhat agree with Blighty, mediocre is the perfect description of the footy club, I couldn't think of a more suitable one word answer to the question. He's also right about the external review needing to have started during the season to see what's actually happening inside the four walls, but I don't agree that it shouldn't be done now because of it, it's better late than never, the people conducting the review can still interview players to get their thoughts, and what's the alternative? Wait another 10 months so it can be done during the season risking even more damage? No thank you.
Title: Re: The 2019 Disaster
Post by: TomK on August 30, 2019, 05:47:09 PM
So we have Dunstall and Pavlich as the other two joining the review, I am very happy with that, particularly with The Chief.
Title: Re: The 2019 Disaster
Post by: Gigantor on August 30, 2019, 06:25:30 PM
Quote from: TomK on August 30, 2019, 05:47:09 PM
So we have Dunstall and Pavlich as the other two joining the review, I am very happy with that, particularly with The Chief.
Eddie definitely gone, too many dribble kicks
Title: Re: The 2019 Disaster
Post by: TomK on September 04, 2019, 05:00:32 PM
https://www.afc.com.au/news/2019-09-04/in-my-own-words-taylor-walker

QuoteAs my career is coming to the back end, I feel the time is right for someone else to lead this great Club
It has been a great privilege to lead this Club for the last five years, through some great times and some very sad and challenging times.

These times have made me realise what's really important in my life - family, mateship and making the most of the time we have in the game we all love.

I have made the decision to stand down so I can focus on enjoying my footy and spending time with my family.

When Walshy come to me and said I want you to lead this group... I’ll be honest, I said no.

What a silly answer that was, because this Club means so much to me.

The role has helped me grow, mature, learn and seek to understand others’ views but most of all I’ve enjoyed the challenge of leading this Football Club.

You can’t hold a leadership position without the support of many others and my team mates, coaches, mentors and many Club staff have played a major role in shaping who I am.

The Adelaide Crows have a long and proud history and this year has been one of the toughest.

We owe it to ourselves and the fans and members to get this club back to where it belongs and that’s playing finals footy every year.

I will always be grateful to the Adelaide Football Club for this opportunity and look forward to a big 2020.
Love ya Texan, good decision, just focus on your footy
Title: Re: The 2019 Disaster
Post by: Trindacut on September 04, 2019, 06:55:24 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 04, 2019, 05:00:32 PM
https://www.afc.com.au/news/2019-09-04/in-my-own-words-taylor-walker

QuoteAs my career is coming to the back end, I feel the time is right for someone else to lead this great Club
It has been a great privilege to lead this Club for the last five years, through some great times and some very sad and challenging times.

These times have made me realise what's really important in my life - family, mateship and making the most of the time we have in the game we all love.

I have made the decision to stand down so I can focus on enjoying my footy and spending time with my family.

When Walshy come to me and said I want you to lead this group... I’ll be honest, I said no.

What a silly answer that was, because this Club means so much to me.

The role has helped me grow, mature, learn and seek to understand others’ views but most of all I’ve enjoyed the challenge of leading this Football Club.

You can’t hold a leadership position without the support of many others and my team mates, coaches, mentors and many Club staff have played a major role in shaping who I am.

The Adelaide Crows have a long and proud history and this year has been one of the toughest.

We owe it to ourselves and the fans and members to get this club back to where it belongs and that’s playing finals footy every year.

I will always be grateful to the Adelaide Football Club for this opportunity and look forward to a big 2020.
Love ya Texan, good decision, just focus on your footy

All he needs to do now is drop 15kg so he can move faster than a fat slug.
Title: Re: The 2019 Disaster
Post by: Dave085 on September 12, 2019, 02:37:18 PM
Well,  Don is gone... Brutal industry this one with 5 coaches losing their role this year. Will be interesting to see what happens from here. The start of a new leadership era.
Title: Re: The 2019 Disaster
Post by: Trindacut on September 12, 2019, 09:37:45 PM
I think the Crows have made a few sensible decisions in the off-season so far. Tex stepping down, Pyke too, and the man quietly heralded as bringing about the best era of a modern football (the chief) being involved in an external review.

Were I a Crows man I'd view this as progress.
Title: Re: The 2019 Disaster
Post by: Dave085 on September 12, 2019, 10:25:29 PM
Quote from: Trindacut on September 12, 2019, 09:37:45 PM
I think the Crows have made a few sensible decisions in the off-season so far. Tex stepping down, Pyke too, and the man quietly heralded as bringing about the best era of a modern football (the chief) being involved in an external review.

Were I a Crows man I'd view this as progress.

Im happy so far.

I know we are trying to clear some older players but Eddie needs to stay. He is the type of guy that helps build culture. His knowledge and game craft is irreplaceable. Im not sure what to believe about the media reports but hearing that he isn't happy and wants out hurts...
Title: Re: The 2019 Disaster
Post by: Grazz on October 19, 2019, 12:38:15 PM
Apart from a couple of things we've basically got what we were calling for.
Coaches and list clean out, now we wait and see what comes of it. We
may go backwards in 2020 to go forwards but i'm down with that.
Title: Re: The 2019 Disaster
Post by: Ringo on October 19, 2019, 02:00:56 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 19, 2019, 12:38:15 PM
Apart from a couple of things we've basically got what we were calling for.
Coaches and list clean out, now we wait and see what comes of it. We
may go backwards in 2020 to go forwards but i'm down with that.
Sounds like another certain club I know which had to go backwards to go forwards so trust the same applies to you loyal supporters.
Title: Re: The 2019 Disaster
Post by: Grazz on October 21, 2019, 12:41:01 AM
Quote from: Ringo on October 19, 2019, 02:00:56 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 19, 2019, 12:38:15 PM
Apart from a couple of things we've basically got what we were calling for.
Coaches and list clean out, now we wait and see what comes of it. We
may go backwards in 2020 to go forwards but i'm down with that.
Sounds like another certain club I know which had to go backwards to go forwards so trust the same applies to you loyal supporters.
Sometimes it's necessary mate. This is one of those times.
Hopefully the kids can fill the void of the departed and we
won't slip to much if at all but it's likely.