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Title: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on August 29, 2018, 06:41:42 PM
And heeeere we go!



In the last week or so we've already seen:

Adelaide delist Dear, Edwards and Jarman
GC delist Barlow, Jaska, Spencer and Willis
Port delist Toumpas and Irra
North delist Hartung, Jefferies, Junker, Narrier, Nielson and Williams
Saints delist Freeman, Wright, Goddard and Connellan
and Bulldogs delist Collins and Mullenger-McHugh.

Full list of changes can be seen here http://www.afl.com.au/news/features/retirements-and-delistings


Mitch McGovern has also requested a trade out of Adelaide
http://www.afc.com.au/news/2018-08-28/statement-mitch-mcgovern
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: GoLions on August 29, 2018, 06:48:35 PM
rip old 514pg thread
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on August 29, 2018, 06:56:14 PM
Quote from: GoLions on August 29, 2018, 06:48:35 PM
rip old 514pg thread
The start of the old one is a pretty funny read.
The first 5 pages are pretty much devoted to Ryder leaving Essendon to go to Brissie lol
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: nrich102 on August 29, 2018, 06:58:08 PM
Quote from: GoLions on August 29, 2018, 06:48:35 PM
rip old 514pg thread
Hit F to pay respect
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on August 30, 2018, 10:37:38 AM
Geelong are into Dahlhaus pretty hard
And Essendon and Brissie interested in Wallis
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on August 30, 2018, 10:52:44 AM
Rosich: I have spoken to Mitch McGovern's manager but it looks at this stage if he's not at Adelaide, he'll be at a Melbourne based club.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 30, 2018, 02:00:25 PM
@sam_mcclure
Brisbane attempting to lure contracted Fremantle star Lachie Neale.

Neale camp open to idea.

Pick 4 on the table.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: nrich102 on August 30, 2018, 02:10:33 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 30, 2018, 02:00:25 PM
@sam_mcclure
Brisbane attempting to lure contracted Fremantle star Lachie Neale.

Neale camp open to idea.

Pick 4 on the table.
Could Neale be coming in to replace Beams... don’t like the thought of that
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on August 30, 2018, 02:33:46 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 30, 2018, 02:00:25 PM
@sam_mcclure
Brisbane attempting to lure contracted Fremantle star Lachie Neale.

Neale camp open to idea.

Pick 4 on the table.
Surely not
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 30, 2018, 03:14:21 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-08-30/lions-trying-to-lure-star-docker-to-the-gabba

AFL.com.au understands there is genuine interest between both parties and that Neale has raised the idea with the Dockers.

He was knocked back at the first attempt.

The Lions are trying desperately to bolster a midfield that relies heavily on Dayne Beams and Dayne Zorko and are prepared to part with their first-round pick in this year's NAB AFL Draft (currently No.4) to do so.

Neale has a year to run on his contract and will be a restricted free agent at the end of 2019.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: GoLions on August 30, 2018, 03:39:55 PM
Stop getting me so excited this early on in the thread
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on August 30, 2018, 05:14:29 PM
Beams: "I have never asked for a trade away from the Lions and would like to put an end to any speculation over my playing future. I will be seeing out my contract here."
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on August 30, 2018, 06:29:54 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 30, 2018, 02:00:25 PM
@sam_mcclure
Brisbane attempting to lure contracted Fremantle star Lachie Neale.

Neale camp open to idea.

Pick 4 on the table.
Wow that would be a massive get for the Lions looking like a good trade period coming up.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on August 30, 2018, 06:31:59 PM
Carlton have delisted Aaron Mullett, Cameron O’Shea, Matthew Shaw and Jesse Glass-McCasker 
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SilverLion on August 30, 2018, 10:01:22 PM
Quote from: GoLions on August 30, 2018, 03:39:55 PM
Stop getting me so excited this early on in the thread
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: crowls on August 30, 2018, 10:58:35 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 30, 2018, 10:37:38 AM
Geelong are into Dahlhaus pretty hard
And Essendon and Brissie interested in Wallis
read this and got excited thought it was daniher not dahlhous.    not sure daniher makes bombers a better team.  be more than comfortable to see him move on.    perhaps a swap for lynch could be on the cards
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 02, 2018, 07:54:57 PM
Ruckman Scott Lycett has officially told the Eagles that he will be leaving at the end of the season to join Port Adelaide
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ringo on September 02, 2018, 08:09:19 PM
Tigers firming as destination for Tom Lynch Suns and Collingwood rumoured to be making a play for Steven May.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 02, 2018, 10:42:58 PM
The AFL Update can confirm from reliable sources that Lachie Neale will request a trade to Brisbane.

The 25 year old was offered a 4-year deal by the Dockers- one that he is believed to have no interest in signing.

The decision comes as Neale approached the Lions earlier in the season, he is believed to have been in regular contact with Brisbane's General Manager of Football David Noble.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: meow meow on September 03, 2018, 08:27:09 AM
Wallis and Libba staying

Dahl gone. We need his FA compo pick to secure West.

Roughead told the club he's going to explode his FA options and has met with WC.

Redpath likely to retire due to injury.

Freeing up cash to make a play for Bont's best mate next year.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Money Shot on September 03, 2018, 10:53:02 AM
Fasolo will sign a 3 year deal with Carlton

McGovern wants to go to a Melbourne based club with Carlton firming as the favourite at this stage.

Although Shiel has said he is happy to fulfill his contract at GWS but due to cap space GWS seem to be open to trading him. Hawthorn, Essendon and Carlton are the two front runners.

Aaron Hall looking likely to join North Melbourne although Carlton is interested.

Scrimshaw, Brodie and Setterfield are all on Carltons radar as young talent. Brodie and Scrimshaw would be somewhat inexpensive as well one would think.

Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ringo on September 03, 2018, 12:12:53 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 02, 2018, 10:42:58 PM
The AFL Update can confirm from reliable sources that Lachie Neale will request a trade to Brisbane.

The 25 year old was offered a 4-year deal by the Dockers- one that he is believed to have no interest in signing.

The decision comes as Neale approached the Lions earlier in the season, he is believed to have been in regular contact with Brisbane's General Manager of Football David Noble.
Already updated on Wikipedia - Know you can not rely on it but someone has jumped the gun and it was not me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lachie_Neale

Lachlan Neale (born 24 May 1993) is an Australian rules footballer playing for the [Brisbane Lions Football Club]] in the Australian Football League (AFL). He is a small quick player who was a high possession winner at junior level.[1]

Also interesting that he is starting to follow Lions players on Instagram.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on September 03, 2018, 12:22:05 PM
Haha Carlton signing Fasolo they really have no idea watched him yesterday in VFL final he struggles to have an impact even at this level why wouldn't they target the Tiges who have players like Lloyd who can only seem to get games when players are injured.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on September 03, 2018, 01:17:01 PM
Over here talk is Neale is staying
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 03, 2018, 02:07:45 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 03, 2018, 01:17:01 PM
Over here talk is Neale is staying

denial
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 03, 2018, 02:22:05 PM
Apparently Jack Lonie has been told to look around, so it sounds like he will be getting the chop from Saints

Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: jvalles69 on September 03, 2018, 03:07:49 PM
Hearing that Lobb has asked his team into looking at a return to WA.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: iZander on September 03, 2018, 03:34:41 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 03, 2018, 03:07:49 PM
Hearing that Lobb has asked his team into looking at a return to WA.
Well that would be a 10x better option for WC than Roughy
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on September 03, 2018, 03:35:16 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 03, 2018, 03:07:49 PM
Hearing that Lobb has asked his team into looking at a return to WA.
So assuming WCE won't be able to afford him, Freo should be in the box seat here
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: jvalles69 on September 03, 2018, 03:39:35 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 03, 2018, 03:35:16 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 03, 2018, 03:07:49 PM
Hearing that Lobb has asked his team into looking at a return to WA.
So assuming WCE won't be able to afford him, Freo should be in the box seat here

With Gaff gone, we might be able to pay a bit more for a ruckman now.

Hearing Cats are trying to lure your ruckman in Darcy home too, that would be extra crippling for your mob if they were to succeed!
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on September 03, 2018, 03:41:53 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 03, 2018, 03:39:35 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 03, 2018, 03:35:16 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 03, 2018, 03:07:49 PM
Hearing that Lobb has asked his team into looking at a return to WA.
So assuming WCE won't be able to afford him, Freo should be in the box seat here

With Gaff gone, we might be able to pay a bit more for a ruckman now.

Hearing Cats are trying to lure your ruckman in Darcy home too, that would be extra crippling for your mob if they were to succeed!
You reckon? Lobb would be on similar (if not more) than what Lycett is being offered.

Oh flower I hope not man
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: jvalles69 on September 03, 2018, 03:49:51 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 03, 2018, 03:41:53 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 03, 2018, 03:39:35 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 03, 2018, 03:35:16 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 03, 2018, 03:07:49 PM
Hearing that Lobb has asked his team into looking at a return to WA.
So assuming WCE won't be able to afford him, Freo should be in the box seat here

With Gaff gone, we might be able to pay a bit more for a ruckman now.

Hearing Cats are trying to lure your ruckman in Darcy home too, that would be extra crippling for your mob if they were to succeed!
You reckon? Lobb would be on similar (if not more) than what Lycett is being offered.

Oh flower I hope not man

Yeah I don't know, just don't want Roughead is all.  :(

Would be absolutely brutal to lose Darcy after putting that work into him and Sandi on the way out.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 03, 2018, 04:02:21 PM
I reckon Gaff is still 50/50, but it's sounding like Lycett is gone  :'(

I'd be happy with just about anyone over Roughy - Lobb would be handy  ;)
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: jvalles69 on September 03, 2018, 04:14:09 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 03, 2018, 04:02:21 PM
I reckon Gaff is still 50/50, but it's sounding like Lycett is gone  :'(

I'd be happy with just about anyone over Roughy - Lobb would be handy  ;)

1.2m is a lot to turn down. What's the max we can give him? If we do keep him it prob means we're flowered in the ruck dept.  I guess the 2 scenarios are keep Gaff get Roughead, lose Gaff get someone better.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 03, 2018, 04:27:13 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 03, 2018, 04:14:09 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 03, 2018, 04:02:21 PM
I reckon Gaff is still 50/50, but it's sounding like Lycett is gone  :'(

I'd be happy with just about anyone over Roughy - Lobb would be handy  ;)

1.2m is a lot to turn down. What's the max we can give him? If we do keep him it prob means we're flowered in the ruck dept.  I guess the 2 scenarios are keep Gaff get Roughead, lose Gaff get someone better.

I think we're at 800k. From what I've heard it will cost him about 2M if he stays with us

Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: jvalles69 on September 03, 2018, 04:29:07 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 03, 2018, 04:27:13 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 03, 2018, 04:14:09 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 03, 2018, 04:02:21 PM
I reckon Gaff is still 50/50, but it's sounding like Lycett is gone  :'(

I'd be happy with just about anyone over Roughy - Lobb would be handy  ;)

1.2m is a lot to turn down. What's the max we can give him? If we do keep him it prob means we're flowered in the ruck dept.  I guess the 2 scenarios are keep Gaff get Roughead, lose Gaff get someone better.

I think we're at 800k. From what I've heard it will cost him about 2M if he stays with us

You can't put a value on not playing for North though... ;)
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 04, 2018, 01:28:34 PM
CONTRACTED Port Adelaide defenders Jasper Pittard and Jack Hombsch have been told they will be traded, should they seek fresh starts away from the Power.

AFL.com.au understands the pair were asked in separate exit meetings last week to consider their futures at Alberton as the Power prepares for another aggressive off-season.

While they're yet to be actively shopped around to other clubs, Pittard and Hombsch were informed they both face a fight to secure a spot in the Power's best 22 in 2019.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 04, 2018, 03:10:47 PM
OUT-OF-contract Richmond ball-getter Anthony Miles has met with Gold Coast about a possible move as the Suns look to bolster their midfield.

Brisbane midfielder Ben Keays is believed to have an interest in heading to the Suns for further opportunities after playing just two games for the Lions this year.

Keays, 21, is a Queenslander and joined Brisbane in 2015 as a product of the Lions Academy, but is unlikely to be a priority for the Suns during the exchange period.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 04, 2018, 04:10:32 PM
Miles PogChamp
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 04, 2018, 04:37:10 PM
ADELAIDE great Andrew Jarman believes Hawthorn could be ready to launch a stunning trade week double.

Jarman believes the Hawks are ready to trade for GWS star midfielder Dylan Shiel while also chasing Port Adelaide gun Chad Wingard.

The Hawks are rumoured to still be in the hunt for Gold Coast star Tom Lynch but would have to commit to one or the other.

Both Shiel and Wingard are out of contract next year and Hawthorn will look to exploit the Giants and Power's need for a return for the future free agents.

"Obviously, he's (Shiel) going to leave at the end of the year," Jarman told Triple M.

"Hawthorn are all over Dylan Shiel, in return they'll be offering their ruckman (Jon) Ceglar and a first-round draft pick.

"And Hawthorn want Chad Wingard as well.

"Just imagine if they get Dylan Shiel and Chad Wingard for next year. Hawthorn just know how to do it."

Carlton is understood to be the front-runner if Shiel does decide to leave GWS.

Reports out of Adelaide suggested Wingard has put a $1 million-a-year price tag on himself.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on September 04, 2018, 05:01:20 PM
Ha ha what team is going to be stupid enough to pay 1 million for Wingard ?
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: iZander on September 04, 2018, 05:34:13 PM
Quote from: shaker on September 04, 2018, 05:01:20 PM
Ha ha what team is going to be stupid enough to pay 1 million for Wingard ?
North Melb would have :P
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: crowls on September 04, 2018, 10:47:14 PM
Quote from: shaker on September 04, 2018, 05:01:20 PM
Ha ha what team is going to be stupid enough to pay 1 million for Wingard ?
for sure, way overs,  and hawks will not play that game.  Norf are desperate for a breathing top 10% footballer and not sure wingard is in top 10% even.


Norf can go Menzel for sfa,  then some 20 yr old youngon for fwd pressure.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Koop on September 04, 2018, 10:50:45 PM
Wingard won't go anywhere, you can hold me to that.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: jvalles69 on September 05, 2018, 01:03:49 PM
Quote from: Koop on September 04, 2018, 10:50:45 PM
Wingard won't go anywhere, you can hold me to that.

Pretty sure that's the reason why he's asking for 1mill, knows noone will pay that.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: enzedder on September 05, 2018, 05:46:53 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-09-05/saints-veteran-cut-no-new-deal-for-defender

Oh Happy Days. Sam Gilbert is surplus to requirements. Thought that for some time.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: crowls on September 05, 2018, 05:57:38 PM
Quote from: Koop on September 04, 2018, 10:50:45 PM
Wingard won't go anywhere, you can hold me to that.
won't or Can't?
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 06, 2018, 01:31:42 PM
Simmo playing next year
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 06, 2018, 01:51:16 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 06, 2018, 01:31:42 PM
Simmo playing next year

Yeah that was announced about 2 weeks ago :P
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 06, 2018, 01:52:00 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 06, 2018, 01:51:16 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 06, 2018, 01:31:42 PM
Simmo playing next year

Yeah that was announced about 2 weeks ago :P

they just tweeted it so not my fault
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 06, 2018, 01:53:10 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 06, 2018, 01:52:00 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 06, 2018, 01:51:16 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 06, 2018, 01:31:42 PM
Simmo playing next year

Yeah that was announced about 2 weeks ago :P

they just tweeted it so not my fault

Yeah he just actually signed today, but it was confirmed it was happening a couple of weeks ago

BRISBANE has cut five players from its list, led by experienced trio Tom Bell, Rohan Bewick and Claye Beams.

The Lions have also delisted utility Marco Paparone and rookie-listed midfielder Jake Barrett.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ringo on September 06, 2018, 02:13:26 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 06, 2018, 01:53:10 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 06, 2018, 01:52:00 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 06, 2018, 01:51:16 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 06, 2018, 01:31:42 PM
Simmo playing next year

Yeah that was announced about 2 weeks ago :P

they just tweeted it so not my fault

Yeah he just actually signed today, but it was confirmed it was happening a couple of weeks ago

BRISBANE has cut five players from its list, led by experienced trio Tom Bell, Rohan Bewick and Claye Beams.

The Lions have also delisted utility Marco Paparone and rookie-listed midfielder Jake Barrett.
and for the record only Robbo, Lester and Walker are to be re-signed.
Would have preferred to keep Barret over Lester in my opinion.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 06, 2018, 03:40:57 PM
ST KILDA has made a seventh list change this off-season, delisting small forward Darren Minchington.

Ahead of a busy NAB AFL Trade Period, Jack Lonie, Mav Weller, Billy Longer and Lewis Pierce all remain out of contract. 
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: enzedder on September 06, 2018, 03:47:05 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 06, 2018, 03:40:57 PM
ST KILDA has made a seventh list change this off-season, delisting small forward Darren Minchington.

Ahead of a busy NAB AFL Trade Period, Jack Lonie, Mav Weller, Billy Longer and Lewis Pierce all remain out of contract.
Minch showed promise but was cut down by injuries and was behind the pecking order for a spot at other times. Feel sorry for him but it’s a brutal business. Don’t know if he’ll get another chance but reckon he’s a tad unlucky.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 07, 2018, 01:32:51 PM
BRISBANE has doubled down on its attempts to lure Fremantle's Lachie Neale across the country, targeting his junior teammate and close friend Lincoln McCarthy from Geelong.

AFL.com.au understands the Lions' need for a small forward has turned Brisbane's attention to the Cats' livewire, who was drafted out of Glenelg with Neale in 2011.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 07, 2018, 07:27:59 PM
Sam Landsberger reporting that the Dee's are looking at Preuss for Gawn back up and Preuss is open to the idea of moving there
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Nige on September 07, 2018, 07:32:36 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 07, 2018, 07:27:59 PM
Sam Landsberger reporting that the Dee's are looking at Preuss for Gawn back up and Preuss is open to the idea of moving there
That’s bizarre considering he was apparently “pissed off” about biding his time in the VFL because he couldn’t get a game over Goldy.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: crowls on September 07, 2018, 08:09:15 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 07, 2018, 07:32:36 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 07, 2018, 07:27:59 PM
Sam Landsberger reporting that the Dee's are looking at Preuss for Gawn back up and Preuss is open to the idea of moving there
That’s bizarre considering he was apparently “pissed off” about biding his time in the VFL because he couldn’t get a game over Goldy.
You are right Nige,  much less chance of getting a first ruck gig behind Max.   Would think Geelong or gws would be options.   
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on September 10, 2018, 04:23:30 PM
Josh Green has been delisted by the bombers
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: iZander on September 10, 2018, 04:24:19 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 10, 2018, 04:23:30 PM
Josh Green has been delisted by the bombers
:'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on September 10, 2018, 06:49:47 PM
Sam McClure tweeted saying Geelong have hit up the Saints about Jack Steven
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 10, 2018, 07:09:57 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 10, 2018, 06:49:47 PM
Sam McClure tweeted saying Geelong have hit up the Saints about Jack Steven

I heard a journo (can't remember who now) over the weekend say that Steven was in play

Surprised me, but seems legit now based on McClure also now mentioning him

Why the hell would Geelong need Steven? They need everything else except mids
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: LF on September 10, 2018, 07:13:11 PM
How are they paying for all these guys?
Steven and Dahlhaus plus those already there can’t be on shower money
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on September 10, 2018, 07:20:35 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 10, 2018, 07:09:57 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 10, 2018, 06:49:47 PM
Sam McClure tweeted saying Geelong have hit up the Saints about Jack Steven

I heard a journo (can't remember who now) over the weekend say that Steven was in play

Surprised me, but seems legit now based on McClure also now mentioning him

Why the hell would Geelong need Steven? They need everything else except mids
Maybe for when Tim Kelly goes
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 10, 2018, 08:06:46 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 10, 2018, 07:20:35 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 10, 2018, 07:09:57 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 10, 2018, 06:49:47 PM
Sam McClure tweeted saying Geelong have hit up the Saints about Jack Steven

I heard a journo (can't remember who now) over the weekend say that Steven was in play

Surprised me, but seems legit now based on McClure also now mentioning him

Why the hell would Geelong need Steven? They need everything else except mids
Maybe for when Tim Kelly goes

Even without Kelly they still bat deep in the mids, and Dahl can certainly run through there too

As for how they pay them all LF, I wouldn't be surprised if guys like Menegola, Scooter, and their entire forward line besides Hawkins, are all on much less than you'd think

Even the likes of Kelly, Stewart etc wouldn't be on much



Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on September 10, 2018, 08:38:20 PM
Aaron Black has been delisted by the Cats.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: GoLions on September 10, 2018, 09:04:42 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 10, 2018, 08:38:20 PM
Aaron Black has been delisted by the Cats.
Should help them afford Steven and Dahl now
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on September 10, 2018, 09:34:57 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 10, 2018, 08:06:46 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 10, 2018, 07:20:35 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 10, 2018, 07:09:57 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 10, 2018, 06:49:47 PM
Sam McClure tweeted saying Geelong have hit up the Saints about Jack Steven

I heard a journo (can't remember who now) over the weekend say that Steven was in play

Surprised me, but seems legit now based on McClure also now mentioning him

Why the hell would Geelong need Steven? They need everything else except mids
Maybe for when Tim Kelly goes

Even without Kelly they still bat deep in the mids, and Dahl can certainly run through there too
As much as he wants to stay in the middle, GAJ is 35 next year so you'd think he'll get a tap on the shoulder to spend more time fwd
Menegola plays a half fwd role
Scooter rarely plays

Dahl can splay stints in there, but he's more the fwd they're lacking
Parfitt plays fwd/mid
Danger has spent more time fwd this year because they don't have enough goal scoring options

Then that leaves

Jelwood, Duncan, Kelly


Even with the guys that rotate through mid/fwd, there's definitely room for another decent mid
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on September 10, 2018, 10:37:22 PM
Chris Scott said they weren't going after Jack on AFL 360
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: enzedder on September 11, 2018, 05:47:48 AM
Couldn’t see it happening anyway. It would cause a riot.
He’s St.Kilda’s best player, in a team full of C graders, contracted till end of 2020.
Would take more than they could afford to offer.
Danger and a first rounder gets it done I reckon. See how much interest they have in that.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on September 11, 2018, 09:28:12 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 10, 2018, 09:34:57 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 10, 2018, 08:06:46 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 10, 2018, 07:20:35 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 10, 2018, 07:09:57 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 10, 2018, 06:49:47 PM
Sam McClure tweeted saying Geelong have hit up the Saints about Jack Steven

I heard a journo (can't remember who now) over the weekend say that Steven was in play

Surprised me, but seems legit now based on McClure also now mentioning him

Why the hell would Geelong need Steven? They need everything else except mids
Maybe for when Tim Kelly goes

Even without Kelly they still bat deep in the mids, and Dahl can certainly run through there too
As much as he wants to stay in the middle, GAJ is 35 next year so you'd think he'll get a tap on the shoulder to spend more time fwd
Menegola plays a half fwd role
Scooter rarely plays

Dahl can splay stints in there, but he's more the fwd they're lacking
Parfitt plays fwd/mid
Danger has spent more time fwd this year because they don't have enough goal scoring options

Then that leaves

Jelwood, Duncan, Kelly


Even with the guys that rotate through mid/fwd, there's definitely room for another decent mid
The winning formula in AFL ATM is pressure and tackling especially when the ball is in your FWD line so that makes Gaz just about obsolete Geelong has all the players they need  now they just need Scott to get his head out of the clouds and move with the times  ;)
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Mat0369 on September 11, 2018, 03:13:07 PM
Blues are offering over a mill a year to Shiel
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ringo on September 11, 2018, 04:30:09 PM
Geelong: Aaron Black, Stewart Crameri, Ryan Gardner, Cory Gregson, Matthew Hayball & Timm House have been delisted
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on September 11, 2018, 04:35:00 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 11, 2018, 04:30:09 PM
Geelong: Aaron Black, Stewart Crameri, Ryan Gardner, Cory Gregson, Matthew Hayball & Timm House have been delisted
not that I've seen a lot of him but Gregson a little unlucky?
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: enzedder on September 11, 2018, 05:48:07 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-09-11/swans-speedster-open-to-move-to-victoria
A few players mentioned in the Rohan thread on afl website but this bit has me amazed.

"While Sydney will meet with midfielder Dan Hannebery in coming days to discuss his future as he contemplates an offer from St Kilda, Rohan will sit down with Swans officials next week."

I cannot for the life of me work out why we'd want him. He seriously looks washed up. We need to look to youth not get another club's hand me downs on their way out. St.Kilda has no idea atm. Laughing stock.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 11, 2018, 06:53:16 PM
Hanners was injury affected all year


the bye before the finals seemed to have helped him

a new club maybe a good idea for a fresh start tho
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: enzedder on September 11, 2018, 08:08:55 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 11, 2018, 06:53:16 PM
Hanners was injury affected all year


the bye before the finals seemed to have helped him

a new club maybe a good idea for a fresh start tho
He’s been injured for two years then. Not just this year his form has tapered off.
Old and injury prone. How many times do you see him crunched and on his haunches. I’ve seen plenty of his games and given where the Saints are at and when they are likely to challenge again he’s a no thanks as far as I’m concerned.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on September 11, 2018, 08:45:48 PM
Tom Morris reporting that Hanners has told Swans he wants a trade
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: enzedder on September 12, 2018, 05:47:46 AM
No reports yet of the Saints having any competition to get him.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on September 12, 2018, 09:14:20 AM
Sam McClure says Daisy has re-signed with the Blues
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Money Shot on September 12, 2018, 10:20:50 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 12, 2018, 09:14:20 AM
Sam McClure says Daisy has re-signed with the Blues
Deserved it! Played really well especially towards the end of last year.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: meow meow on September 12, 2018, 11:44:40 AM
Quote from: enzedder on September 12, 2018, 05:47:46 AM
No reports yet of the Saints having any competition to get him.
The Saints getting a 28 year old injury prone has been makes no sense. I heard they're chasing Parker instead, and the Swans are going after Shiel who wants to stay in Sydney.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on September 12, 2018, 12:17:40 PM
Eric Mackenzie has retired
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on September 12, 2018, 05:50:16 PM
So Swans have confirmed Hannebery and Rohan have requested a trade home to Victoria.

Rohan to Geelong?
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on September 12, 2018, 06:07:38 PM
http://m.sydneyswans.com.au/news/2018-09-12/hannebery-and-rohan-open-to-trade

QuoteHannebery, a three-time All-Australian, 2012 premiership player, 2015 AFLCA Player of the Year, 2010 Rising Star winner and Swans Life Member, has played 208 games for Sydney across 10 seasons and has expressed his desire to be traded to St Kilda.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: crowls on September 13, 2018, 08:11:07 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 11, 2018, 06:53:16 PM
Hanners was injury affected all year


the bye before the finals seemed to have helped him

a new club maybe a good idea for a fresh start tho
anywhere but essendon please.   
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on September 13, 2018, 08:29:58 AM
Quote from: enzedder on September 11, 2018, 08:08:55 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 11, 2018, 06:53:16 PM
Hanners was injury affected all year


the bye before the finals seemed to have helped him

a new club maybe a good idea for a fresh start tho
He’s been injured for two years then. Not just this year his form has tapered off.
Old and injury prone. How many times do you see him crunched and on his haunches. I’ve seen plenty of his games and given where the Saints are at and when they are likely to challenge again he’s a no thanks as far as I’m concerned.
Yep this has failure written all over it I'm hearing 5 years ? if so that is crazy maybe he will get his body right but agree he looks like his best days are past him.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 13, 2018, 01:38:36 PM
Nic Newman likely to seek a move too
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Mat0369 on September 13, 2018, 03:39:33 PM
Newman is one I'd want at the Blues. Thing is I can't see us making 11 list changes again
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on September 13, 2018, 06:14:13 PM
Polec confirms he wants to be traded to North
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 13, 2018, 06:17:14 PM
Port Adelaide will listen to trade offers for dual All-Australian Chad Wingard rather than put the “untouchable” tag on its enigmatic midfielder-forward next month.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on September 13, 2018, 06:19:23 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 13, 2018, 06:17:14 PM
Port Adelaide will listen to trade offers for dual All-Australian Chad Wingard rather than put the “untouchable” tag on its enigmatic midfielder-forward next month.
That's big. They'd be expecting a fair bit for him tho
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Koop on September 13, 2018, 07:39:09 PM
what the flower are we doing
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ringo on September 13, 2018, 09:12:13 PM
Big rumour out of Suns Steven May expected to ask for a trade with Pies or Hawks favoured.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: elephants on September 14, 2018, 01:56:04 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on September 13, 2018, 03:39:33 PM
Newman is one I'd want at the Blues. Thing is I can't see us making 11 list changes again

Can be as good as Lloyd if not better if allowed to play his free-wheeling role off half back. Very good player.

Quote from: Ricochet on September 12, 2018, 12:17:40 PM
Eric Mackenzie has retired

3 games short of life membership, shafted of All-Australian in 2014. Great servant for the club and I hope he sticks around in some sort of off-field role.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: LF on September 14, 2018, 01:57:51 PM
https://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl-free-agency/free-agent-andrew-gaff-hoping-to-work-out-new-deal-with-west-coast-ng-b88960363z
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Money Shot on September 17, 2018, 01:22:09 PM
Aaron Hall and Polec are both very likely to sign with North. If Gaff doesn't work out a deal with the Eagles he will be at North as well.

Shiel has been offered 1mil a year to play with Carlton as they try and lure him and Setterfield.

Brodie and Scrimshaw are being heavily targeted by Carlton as they try and stack up with players in there early 20s. Scrimshaw and Brodie will both be relatively inexpensive and won't be too hard to get in either. Would be happy with both these players.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: R.Griffen on September 17, 2018, 02:49:11 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on September 17, 2018, 01:22:09 PM
Aaron Hall and Polec are both very likely to sign with North. If Gaff doesn't work out a deal with the Eagles he will be at North as well.

Shiel has been offered 1mil a year to play with Carlton as they try and lure him and Setterfield.

Brodie and Scrimshaw are being heavily targeted by Carlton as they try and stack up with players in there early 20s. Scrimshaw and Brodie will both be relatively inexpensive and won't be too hard to get in either. Would be happy with both these players.
If May goes no chance you get Scrimshaw.

Would be interesting to see if Dew let’s Brodie go. Out of favour because he was a one way runner but was great late in the year. Was a top 5 pick 2 years ago so he’d still be worth early 2nd

Blues more likely to get Setterfield and Shiel imo. Except I’m not sure who’s in front of the race for Shiel
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SydneyRox on September 17, 2018, 09:58:30 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 14, 2018, 01:56:04 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on September 13, 2018, 03:39:33 PM
Newman is one I'd want at the Blues. Thing is I can't see us making 11 list changes again

Can be as good as Lloyd if not better if allowed to play his free-wheeling role off half back. Very good player.


He has potential, but nowehere near as good as lloyd. still panics when he gets the ball a lot and is very one sided. wont be happy to lose him, but with Mills coming back and a couple of the other young guys like Ling and stoddart to take more minutes he can see the writing on the wall
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: enzedder on September 18, 2018, 05:50:26 AM
@tommorris32
St Kilda leads the race, but Collingwood is pondering a big play for Dan Hannebery, reports...

I find myself barracking for the Pies on this one.
There’s a spew taste in my mouth but I can handle it.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 18, 2018, 08:11:21 AM
Quote from: enzedder on September 18, 2018, 05:50:26 AM
@tommorris32
St Kilda leads the race, but Collingwood is pondering a big play for Dan Hannebery, reports...

I find myself barracking for the Pies on this one.
There’s a spew taste in my mouth but I can handle it.

All reports suggest Saints have offered 800k for 4 years, with an option/trigger for a 5th year

:-X
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SydneyRox on September 18, 2018, 11:54:18 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 18, 2018, 08:11:21 AM
Quote from: enzedder on September 18, 2018, 05:50:26 AM
@tommorris32
St Kilda leads the race, but Collingwood is pondering a big play for Dan Hannebery, reports...

I find myself barracking for the Pies on this one.
There’s a spew taste in my mouth but I can handle it.

All reports suggest Saints have offered 800k for 4 years, with an option/trigger for a 5th year

:-X

not overly happy about losing hanners, but glad there might be  fight over him to drive the price up for us.

the saints 1st round pick for hanners plus our first pick would be a great result if we can get it.

Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: crowls on September 18, 2018, 01:22:12 PM
Quote from: enzedder on September 18, 2018, 05:50:26 AM
@tommorris32
St Kilda leads the race, but Collingwood is pondering a big play for Dan Hannebery, reports...

I find myself barracking for the Pies on this one.
There’s a spew taste in my mouth but I can handle it.
love to see collingwood pay overs for a hanebery that looks past it.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: elephants on September 18, 2018, 06:30:17 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on September 17, 2018, 09:58:30 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 14, 2018, 01:56:04 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on September 13, 2018, 03:39:33 PM
Newman is one I'd want at the Blues. Thing is I can't see us making 11 list changes again

Can be as good as Lloyd if not better if allowed to play his free-wheeling role off half back. Very good player.


He has potential, but nowehere near as good as lloyd. still panics when he gets the ball a lot and is very one sided. wont be happy to lose him, but with Mills coming back and a couple of the other young guys like Ling and stoddart to take more minutes he can see the writing on the wall

Needs to be given a legit chance. His last JLT game was a glimpse of what he can do in that creative role off half back
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: enzedder on September 18, 2018, 08:07:43 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on September 18, 2018, 11:54:18 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 18, 2018, 08:11:21 AM
Quote from: enzedder on September 18, 2018, 05:50:26 AM
@tommorris32
St Kilda leads the race, but Collingwood is pondering a big play for Dan Hannebery, reports...

I find myself barracking for the Pies on this one.
There’s a spew taste in my mouth but I can handle it.

All reports suggest Saints have offered 800k for 4 years, with an option/trigger for a 5th year

:-X

not overly happy about losing hanners, but glad there might be  fight over him to drive the price up for us.

the saints 1st round pick for hanners plus our first pick would be a great result if we can get it.
Would be a great result. Saints may as well forfeit the next 5 years if they go for that and say goodbye to 5000 members too.
Bad enough they want him in the first place.
Newman is the one the Swans should be dirty on losing.
Wouldn’t mind him at the Saints except we already have 20 half back flankers.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ringo on September 18, 2018, 09:12:20 PM
McCarthy probably joining Lions after undergoing a medical today.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SilverLion on September 18, 2018, 10:29:53 PM
"The AFL Update can reveal Mitch Wallis will be a Brisbane Lions player in 2019. Wallis, 25, is a restricted free agent, having played 123 games in eight seasons with the Western Bulldogs. Wallis averaged 21 disposals, 4 tackles and 4 clearances in 2018."

https://twitter.com/TheAFLupdate/status/1041621358516482050

Probably a load of shower though.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on September 19, 2018, 12:07:58 AM
Parker has squashed any trade rumours about him leaving Syd by posting on insta that hes no chance of leaving.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 19, 2018, 09:32:26 AM
Collingwood seem very certain they will get Steven May

Bulldogs number 1 priority is to try and land Wingard, with Hawthorn being the other team considered a chance

Freo will be throwing the sink at Lobb it seems, and WCE won't be able to match an offer so if Lobb does decide to return home it will be Freo most likely
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ringo on September 19, 2018, 09:45:51 AM
Suns and Stuart Dew are adamant they will hold May to his contract. Pies will have to come up with a super offer to move him.
Reason for enforcing contract even though he will leave next year is they will get another compo pick which they will not with a trade,
Interesting trade period coming up.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SydneyRox on September 19, 2018, 10:57:30 AM
Quote from: Ringo on September 19, 2018, 09:45:51 AM
Suns and Stuart Dew are adamant they will hold May to his contract. Pies will have to come up with a super offer to move him.
Reason for enforcing contract even though he will leave next year is they will get another compo pick which they will not with a trade,
Interesting trade period coming up.


yeah, look when you are almost guaranteed to get a top 4 pick next year why would you accept anything less this year?

Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: elephants on September 19, 2018, 11:12:36 AM
Looks like Freo will go after Lobb and we will go after Kelly. As much as the supporters hate one another the clubs seem to have a bit of a mutual agreement not to drive up the price for one another benefiting the scum from the East

Wish we go Preuss but that looks like it won't happen. Prefer Hickey to Roughead but I think we get Rough
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on September 19, 2018, 04:52:22 PM
Mitch Wallis has re-signed
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: fanTCfool on September 19, 2018, 05:21:16 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on September 18, 2018, 10:29:53 PM
"The AFL Update can reveal Mitch Wallis will be a Brisbane Lions player in 2019. Wallis, 25, is a restricted free agent, having played 123 games in eight seasons with the Western Bulldogs. Wallis averaged 21 disposals, 4 tackles and 4 clearances in 2018."

https://twitter.com/TheAFLupdate/status/1041621358516482050

Probably a load of shower though.

Confirmed a load of shower.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: enzedder on September 19, 2018, 06:59:10 PM
Hanners only interested in going to the Saints or staying put in Sydney.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 19, 2018, 09:20:19 PM
Quote from: enzedder on September 19, 2018, 06:59:10 PM
Hanners only interested in going to the Saints or staying put in Sydney.

Which translates to Saints are the only club that will pay him as much as he wants, and his current deal with Sydney would be 2nd best to that
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SilverLion on September 19, 2018, 09:48:26 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 19, 2018, 04:52:22 PM
Mitch Wallis has re-signed
Quote from: fanTCfool on September 19, 2018, 05:21:16 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on September 18, 2018, 10:29:53 PM
"The AFL Update can reveal Mitch Wallis will be a Brisbane Lions player in 2019. Wallis, 25, is a restricted free agent, having played 123 games in eight seasons with the Western Bulldogs. Wallis averaged 21 disposals, 4 tackles and 4 clearances in 2018."

https://twitter.com/TheAFLupdate/status/1041621358516482050

Probably a load of shower though.

Confirmed a load of shower.
Nailed it ;D
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ringo on September 20, 2018, 09:02:17 AM
For information McCarthy has passed the medical tests at Lions so looks like he will be coming whether Neale comes or not. It appears the club were looking at him before the Neale issue arose anyway. Maybe he was instrumental in suggesting to Lachie to look at Brisbane.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: jvalles69 on September 20, 2018, 10:07:38 AM
Quote from: Ringo on September 20, 2018, 09:02:17 AM
For information McCarthy has passed the medical tests at Lions so looks like he will be coming whether Neale comes or not. It appears the club were looking at him before the Neale issue arose anyway. Maybe he was instrumental in suggesting to Lachie to look at Brisbane.

Hang on, which McCarthy is this? Please tell me it's not the guy who "claimed" mental health because he wanted to go home?
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SilverLion on September 20, 2018, 10:09:24 AM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 20, 2018, 10:07:38 AM
Quote from: Ringo on September 20, 2018, 09:02:17 AM
For information McCarthy has passed the medical tests at Lions so looks like he will be coming whether Neale comes or not. It appears the club were looking at him before the Neale issue arose anyway. Maybe he was instrumental in suggesting to Lachie to look at Brisbane.

Hang on, which McCarthy is this? Please tell me it's not the guy who "claimed" mental health because he wanted to go home?
Nope, Lincoln McCarthy from the cats. Good mates with Neale from Juniors I believe.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: jvalles69 on September 20, 2018, 10:44:35 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on September 20, 2018, 10:09:24 AM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 20, 2018, 10:07:38 AM
Quote from: Ringo on September 20, 2018, 09:02:17 AM
For information McCarthy has passed the medical tests at Lions so looks like he will be coming whether Neale comes or not. It appears the club were looking at him before the Neale issue arose anyway. Maybe he was instrumental in suggesting to Lachie to look at Brisbane.

Hang on, which McCarthy is this? Please tell me it's not the guy who "claimed" mental health because he wanted to go home?
Nope, Lincoln McCarthy from the cats. Good mates with Neale from Juniors I believe.

Ah ok, that was who I was thinking, but just wanted to make sure!
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ringo on September 20, 2018, 09:42:04 PM
It has been confirmed that Steven May met with demons so more to play out.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: R.Griffen on September 20, 2018, 10:30:18 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 20, 2018, 09:42:04 PM
It has been confirmed that Steven May met with demons so more to play out.
May to Melbourne
Hogan to Freo
Neale to Brisbane
Brisbane first round pick to Suns

Everyone is a winner :o
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on September 20, 2018, 11:11:32 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on September 20, 2018, 10:30:18 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 20, 2018, 09:42:04 PM
It has been confirmed that Steven May met with demons so more to play out.
May to Melbourne
Hogan to Freo
Neale to Brisbane
Brisbane first round pick to Suns

Everyone is a winner :o
Lock it in
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 21, 2018, 01:24:44 AM
Karl Amon open to a move for more opportunities

Hickey had a medical with WCE, so that's now Hickey and Rough who have done so
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Money Shot on September 21, 2018, 01:34:44 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 20, 2018, 11:11:32 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on September 20, 2018, 10:30:18 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 20, 2018, 09:42:04 PM
It has been confirmed that Steven May met with demons so more to play out.
May to Melbourne
Hogan to Freo
Neale to Brisbane
Brisbane first round pick to Suns

Everyone is a winner :o
Lock it in
It annoys me how much that works haha!

Melbourne wouldn't want to swap Hogan for May though but if Hogan wants out (I think he is quite happy with the Melbourne party life) this could actually be a really good trade for all teams
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Mat0369 on September 21, 2018, 01:49:28 AM
I've heard some stories about Hogan but considering he lost his dad and what he went through himself last year I can't really blame him

Didn't the Dees just re-sign Oscar McDonald and they have Lever coming back. Obviously May is an upgrade over McDonald but you would assume that means they are the three tall defenders they run with?

Losing Hogan would hurt, but if they trade him they're showing supreme faith in Weiders off such a small sample size. Hogan was killing it this year and you can only expect him to get better. I think if I was Melbourne I'd roll the dice with what I have and only look to add through FA like Gaff
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Big Mac on September 21, 2018, 03:12:07 AM
Hogan worth a flowerton more than May

Big losers in that trade scenario
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 21, 2018, 09:02:47 AM
Suns need to grow a pair of balls and stop letting everyone kick them in the dick

Hold May, and then let him go next year and you'll get a compo pick, most likely in the Top 3-5
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: elephants on September 21, 2018, 11:57:06 AM
Hogan very happy in Victoria according to a family member, but not stoked with the Demons. Very highy doubt he moves, but if he does I reckon its in a move to Pies/Hawks

Still dont think he movies anywhere though, Dees on the verge of something all of a sudden
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ringo on September 21, 2018, 01:23:13 PM
Aaron Hall met with Roos and undergoing medical this afternoon to inflict more pain on the Suns.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: elephants on September 21, 2018, 01:38:06 PM
Good riddance, one way runner and not what GC need culturally or on-field.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 21, 2018, 02:35:06 PM
GIANTS key defender Jeremy Finlayson will explore trade options at rival clubs as Greater Western Sydney moves to avoid a salary cap squeeze next season.

"Jeremy was told in his exit interview that the club was open to exploring options ahead of the trade period," Trotter said.

"This was unexpected but we will have a look around and if there is something there we will explore it, but if not Jeremy has got two years remaining on his contract and both he and the club are more than happy for him to stay.

"The club and Jeremy will work through things together before any decision is made."
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SilverLion on September 21, 2018, 03:27:41 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 21, 2018, 02:35:06 PM
GIANTS key defender Jeremy Finlayson will explore trade options at rival clubs as Greater Western Sydney moves to avoid a salary cap squeeze next season.

"Jeremy was told in his exit interview that the club was open to exploring options ahead of the trade period," Trotter said.

"This was unexpected but we will have a look around and if there is something there we will explore it, but if not Jeremy has got two years remaining on his contract and both he and the club are more than happy for him to stay.

"The club and Jeremy will work through things together before any decision is made."
Could be the next Westhoff. Interesting.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: elephants on September 22, 2018, 09:59:19 AM
Reports coming through that after last nights game Tom Lynch has requested a trade to Collingwood
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SilverLion on September 22, 2018, 11:39:46 AM
"GEELONG small forward Lincoln McCarthy has informed the Cats of his desire to be traded to Brisbane.

McCarthy, 24, communicated his wish to the Cats hierarchy on Friday, knocking back an offer to continue his career at GMHBA Stadium in pursuit of a fresh start at the Lions.

AFL.com.au understands McCarthy is hopeful of playing alongside close friend and junior teammate Lachie Neale next season, with the Docker contemplating a multi-million dollar move."

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-09-21/make-me-a-lion-cat-mccarthy-requests-brisbane-trade
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on September 22, 2018, 11:50:08 AM
haha make me a lion cat
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on September 24, 2018, 12:29:58 PM
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-trade-whispers-essendon-hunting-sun-jack-martin-richmond-eyes-brad-crouch/news-story/7f5b1744adb454b8284310fdf6f92c99

Quote“Brad Crouch is another name that keeps coming up in conversation,” Edmund told SEN Breakfast.

“The Adelaide midfielder, injury riddled it must be said, hasn’t played at all this year, but whispers around him perhaps being on the move this off-season as well.

“I’ve heard the Tigers might have an interest for Brad Crouch.”


Quote“Gold Coast’s Jack Martin is a whisper that won’t go away,” Edmund told SEN Breakfast.

“Essendon’s interest has been reported, that remains solid. That footy club has a real interest in Jack Martin.

“The latest whisper is he requested a trade out of his exit interview Jack Martin, now I can’t seem to substantiate as yet, but the jungle drums are well and truly beating.

“He’s contracted for next year too.”

Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Money Shot on September 25, 2018, 12:42:18 PM
Brayden Preuss is looking more and more likely to join the dees.

Wouldn't that be the place you would least want to go if you were looking for more oppurtunities?
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Mat0369 on September 25, 2018, 01:43:14 PM
Matty Wright retired
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ringo on September 25, 2018, 01:47:32 PM
Melbourne: Fremantle set to offer Jesse Hogan a multi million dollar deal via Greg Denham @australian
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SydneyRox on September 25, 2018, 02:05:43 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 25, 2018, 01:47:32 PM
Melbourne: Fremantle set to offer Jesse Hogan a multi million dollar deal via Greg Denham @australian

this sounds like a story we have heard before??
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SydneyRox on September 25, 2018, 02:09:40 PM
Great news for the Swans

https://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/sydney-swans/jake-lloyd-has-re-signed-with-sydney-swans-rebuffing-big-money-offers-from-rivals-ng-d93ec5bb1f3bde6c755ba796985e2d18

Lloyd signs 4year deal with Swans

Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Rusty00 on September 25, 2018, 02:30:22 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on September 25, 2018, 12:42:18 PM
Brayden Preuss is looking more and more likely to join the dees.

Wouldn't that be the place you would least want to go if you were looking for more oppurtunities?
Doesn't seem to make sense does it? Starved for opportunities behind the previous best ruckman in the comp, to move to a team with the new best ruckman in the comp ???
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: AaronKirk on September 25, 2018, 03:45:21 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on September 25, 2018, 02:05:43 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 25, 2018, 01:47:32 PM
Melbourne: Fremantle set to offer Jesse Hogan a multi million dollar deal via Greg Denham @australian

this sounds like a story we have heard before??

Freo give a first round pick, potentially 2 if Neale goes to Brisbane, for Hogan, which in turn is used by Melbourne to get Stephen May from the Suns whom they have met with according to a Fox Sports article I read this morning.

Weideman and McDonald were really good forward in the finals so they could cope without Hogan and a May/Lever/Omac defensive group would be very strong.

Speaking about the Gold Coast and their mass exodus of talented players Essendon have I am lead to believe met with Jack Martin and are keen on him. Would have to give up a lot to get him.

Corey Ellis according to The Age to leave Richmond and head to the Suns.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ringo on September 25, 2018, 05:17:37 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on September 25, 2018, 03:45:21 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on September 25, 2018, 02:05:43 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 25, 2018, 01:47:32 PM
Melbourne: Fremantle set to offer Jesse Hogan a multi million dollar deal via Greg Denham @australian

this sounds like a story we have heard before??

Freo give a first round pick, potentially 2 if Neale goes to Brisbane, for Hogan, which in turn is used by Melbourne to get Stephen May from the Suns whom they have met with according to a Fox Sports article I read this morning.

Weideman and McDonald were really good forward in the finals so they could cope without Hogan and a May/Lever/Omac defensive group would be very strong.

Speaking about the Gold Coast and their mass exodus of talented players Essendon have I am lead to believe met with Jack Martin and are keen on him. Would have to give up a lot to get him.

Corey Ellis according to The Age to leave Richmond and head to the Suns.
As to is Anthony Miles.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 25, 2018, 05:19:52 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on September 25, 2018, 03:45:21 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on September 25, 2018, 02:05:43 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 25, 2018, 01:47:32 PM
Melbourne: Fremantle set to offer Jesse Hogan a multi million dollar deal via Greg Denham @australian

this sounds like a story we have heard before??

Freo give a first round pick, potentially 2 if Neale goes to Brisbane, for Hogan, which in turn is used by Melbourne to get Stephen May from the Suns whom they have met with according to a Fox Sports article I read this morning.

Weideman and McDonald were really good forward in the finals so they could cope without Hogan and a May/Lever/Omac defensive group would be very strong.

Speaking about the Gold Coast and their mass exodus of talented players Essendon have I am lead to believe met with Jack Martin and are keen on him. Would have to give up a lot to get him.

Corey Ellis according to The Age to leave Richmond and head to the Suns.

How are the Suns going to make their minimum player payments? And why arent they chasing players with big money deals?
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: R.Griffen on September 25, 2018, 05:23:43 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on September 20, 2018, 10:30:18 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 20, 2018, 09:42:04 PM
It has been confirmed that Steven May met with demons so more to play out.
May to Melbourne
Hogan to Freo
Neale to Brisbane
Brisbane first round pick to Suns

Everyone is a winner :o

Geez I really want this to happen now. 2 of the 4 parts are basically done
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: GoLions on September 25, 2018, 06:11:11 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 25, 2018, 05:19:52 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on September 25, 2018, 03:45:21 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on September 25, 2018, 02:05:43 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 25, 2018, 01:47:32 PM
Melbourne: Fremantle set to offer Jesse Hogan a multi million dollar deal via Greg Denham @australian

this sounds like a story we have heard before??

Freo give a first round pick, potentially 2 if Neale goes to Brisbane, for Hogan, which in turn is used by Melbourne to get Stephen May from the Suns whom they have met with according to a Fox Sports article I read this morning.

Weideman and McDonald were really good forward in the finals so they could cope without Hogan and a May/Lever/Omac defensive group would be very strong.

Speaking about the Gold Coast and their mass exodus of talented players Essendon have I am lead to believe met with Jack Martin and are keen on him. Would have to give up a lot to get him.

Corey Ellis according to The Age to leave Richmond and head to the Suns.

How are the Suns going to make their minimum player payments? And why arent they chasing players with big money deals?
By paying their young kids more than they're worth (which they have already done)
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: AaronKirk on September 25, 2018, 06:12:59 PM
Quote from: GoLions on September 25, 2018, 06:11:11 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 25, 2018, 05:19:52 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on September 25, 2018, 03:45:21 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on September 25, 2018, 02:05:43 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 25, 2018, 01:47:32 PM
Melbourne: Fremantle set to offer Jesse Hogan a multi million dollar deal via Greg Denham @australian

this sounds like a story we have heard before??

Freo give a first round pick, potentially 2 if Neale goes to Brisbane, for Hogan, which in turn is used by Melbourne to get Stephen May from the Suns whom they have met with according to a Fox Sports article I read this morning.

Weideman and McDonald were really good forward in the finals so they could cope without Hogan and a May/Lever/Omac defensive group would be very strong.

Speaking about the Gold Coast and their mass exodus of talented players Essendon have I am lead to believe met with Jack Martin and are keen on him. Would have to give up a lot to get him.

Corey Ellis according to The Age to leave Richmond and head to the Suns.

How are the Suns going to make their minimum player payments? And why arent they chasing players with big money deals?
By paying their young kids more than they're worth (which they have already done)

They actually have salary cap pressure for overpaying players to keep them and luring the likes of Weller.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on September 25, 2018, 08:33:30 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-09-25/adelaide-onballer-set-to-sign-on-for-2019

QuoteADELAIDE midfielder Cam Ellis-Yolmen is set to extend his stay at West Lakes, closing in on a new agreement for 2019.

AFL.com.au understands the 25-year-old midfielder is in the midst of discussions about a fresh deal.

Playing 15 games this season, Ellis-Yolmen bounced back strongly from a 2017 campaign ruined by a pre-season ACL reconstruction.

Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: R.Griffen on September 25, 2018, 10:12:59 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 25, 2018, 08:33:30 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-09-25/adelaide-onballer-set-to-sign-on-for-2019

QuoteADELAIDE midfielder Cam Ellis-Yolmen is set to extend his stay at West Lakes, closing in on a new agreement for 2019.

AFL.com.au understands the 25-year-old midfielder is in the midst of discussions about a fresh deal.

Playing 15 games this season, Ellis-Yolmen bounced back strongly from a 2017 campaign ruined by a pre-season ACL reconstruction.

I genuinely thought he was gone. Makes me think Crouch could be gone now. CEY isn’t best 22 in a fit crows side
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: TomK on September 25, 2018, 10:34:10 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on September 25, 2018, 10:12:59 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 25, 2018, 08:33:30 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-09-25/adelaide-onballer-set-to-sign-on-for-2019

QuoteADELAIDE midfielder Cam Ellis-Yolmen is set to extend his stay at West Lakes, closing in on a new agreement for 2019.

AFL.com.au understands the 25-year-old midfielder is in the midst of discussions about a fresh deal.

Playing 15 games this season, Ellis-Yolmen bounced back strongly from a 2017 campaign ruined by a pre-season ACL reconstruction.

I genuinely thought he was gone. Makes me think Crouch could be gone now. CEY isn’t best 22 in a fit crows side
I too thought he'd leave for greater opportunities, but happy to keep him on as depth. I don't see Brad going anywhere though, I don't blame him for being frustrated with his groin and the management of it but we've appointed Steve Saunders to the performance staff for this exact reason, that along with his brother here, I just can't see it. Not surprised other clubs are asking the question though.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ringo on September 26, 2018, 09:38:35 AM
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/brisbane-defender-sam-mayes-agrees-to-explore-trade-options-and-eyes-possible-sa-return/news-story/d2cae828d6c086f96c1eedce196f5921

Sam Mayes open to trade back to SA or Vic club. Who would want him?
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on September 26, 2018, 10:59:59 AM
Dean Kent has requested a trade. St Kilda have offered 3 years

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/melbourne-s-dean-kent-wants-to-be-a-saint-20180925-p505zp.html
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on September 26, 2018, 12:13:47 PM
Dallas Willsmore, Jonathan O’Rourke and Kurt Heatherley have all been delisted by Hawthorn.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 26, 2018, 12:34:39 PM
Not sure if this one was mentioned

Tom Bugg
Lochie Filipovic
Mitch King
Pat McKenna
Cam Pederson

All delisted
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 26, 2018, 12:39:24 PM
Rory Lobb has met with WCE
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Gigantor on September 26, 2018, 12:44:43 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 26, 2018, 12:39:24 PM
Rory Lobb has met with WCE

Would much rather Lobb than Roughie or Hickey
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: jvalles69 on September 26, 2018, 12:51:56 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 26, 2018, 12:34:39 PM
Not sure if this one was mentioned

Tom Bugg
Lochie Filipovic
Mitch King
Pat McKenna
Cam Pederson

All delisted

Could he be an option for us at West Coast? ???
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: elephants on September 26, 2018, 03:47:59 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on September 26, 2018, 12:44:43 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 26, 2018, 12:39:24 PM
Rory Lobb has met with WCE

Would much rather Lobb than Roughie or Hickey

Word is Lobb is on about 700k at GWS. I believe in Hickey tbh, could do a job for half the price. Just needs a chance in a club with C U L T U R E
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 26, 2018, 03:57:49 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 26, 2018, 03:47:59 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on September 26, 2018, 12:44:43 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 26, 2018, 12:39:24 PM
Rory Lobb has met with WCE

Would much rather Lobb than Roughie or Hickey

Word is Lobb is on about 700k at GWS. I believe in Hickey tbh, could do a job for half the price. Just needs a chance in a club with C U L T U R E

Yeah I wouldn't mind Hickey either - when fit he is good enough to play his role, and Vards as backup should be enough to get us through until NN returns

Rough I don't want at all

Not sure how we can afford Lobb. If Gaff leaves, then just pay Lycett more and retain him
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: elephants on September 26, 2018, 04:28:12 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 26, 2018, 03:57:49 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 26, 2018, 03:47:59 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on September 26, 2018, 12:44:43 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 26, 2018, 12:39:24 PM
Rory Lobb has met with WCE

Would much rather Lobb than Roughie or Hickey

Word is Lobb is on about 700k at GWS. I believe in Hickey tbh, could do a job for half the price. Just needs a chance in a club with C U L T U R E

Yeah I wouldn't mind Hickey either - when fit he is good enough to play his role, and Vards as backup should be enough to get us through until NN returns

Rough I don't want at all

Not sure how we can afford Lobb. If Gaff leaves, then just pay Lycett more and retain him

As far as I'm concerned Lycetts management burnt a lot of bridges when they leaked that he was heading for Port on the eve of our qualifying final against the Pies. Bye Slyce
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 26, 2018, 06:12:35 PM
Hickey is useless
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: enzedder on September 26, 2018, 06:13:17 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 26, 2018, 10:59:59 AM
Dean Kent has requested a trade. St Kilda have offered 3 years

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/melbourne-s-dean-kent-wants-to-be-a-saint-20180925-p505zp.html
Dean Who?
63 games in 6 years. Yawn.
Hamstring troubles. Quick. Been there with Freeman. OK.
Career best season averageof 16 possies. Lovely.
Saints want him.
SOLD!
Kent and Hanners at the Saints = finals in 2019. Maybe not.
Who needs to rid themselves of muppets, the Saints will offer them 3-5 years.

Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: enzedder on September 26, 2018, 06:15:27 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 26, 2018, 06:12:35 PM
Hickey is useless
He's alright at training dogs to do tricks.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Koop on September 26, 2018, 06:17:08 PM
Quote from: enzedder on September 26, 2018, 06:13:17 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 26, 2018, 10:59:59 AM
Dean Kent has requested a trade. St Kilda have offered 3 years

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/melbourne-s-dean-kent-wants-to-be-a-saint-20180925-p505zp.html
Dean Who?
63 games in 6 years. Yawn.
Hamstring troubles. Quick. Been there with Freeman. OK.
Career best season averageof 16 possies. Lovely.
Saints want him.
SOLD!
Kent and Hanners at the Saints = finals in 2019. Maybe not.
Who needs to rid themselves of muppets, the Saints will offer them 3-5 years.

Quick & knows where the goals are, I thought after the year you've had you'd be chomping at that?  ;)
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: enzedder on September 26, 2018, 07:12:14 PM
Quote from: Koop on September 26, 2018, 06:17:08 PM
Quote from: enzedder on September 26, 2018, 06:13:17 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 26, 2018, 10:59:59 AM
Dean Kent has requested a trade. St Kilda have offered 3 years

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/melbourne-s-dean-kent-wants-to-be-a-saint-20180925-p505zp.html
Dean Who?
63 games in 6 years. Yawn.
Hamstring troubles. Quick. Been there with Freeman. OK.
Career best season averageof 16 possies. Lovely.
Saints want him.
SOLD!
Kent and Hanners at the Saints = finals in 2019. Maybe not.
Who needs to rid themselves of muppets, the Saints will offer them 3-5 years.

Quick & knows where the goals are, I thought after the year you've had you'd be chomping at that?  ;)
Yeah. He may prove to be alright but after the year we've had I was hoping for someone like Gaff.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on September 27, 2018, 11:06:14 AM
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/09/27/mitch-mcgovern-nominates-carlton-as-club-of-choice/

QuoteMitch McGovern’s manager Colin Young has officially announced his client would like to become a Blue in 2019.

While no secret that Carlton was the frontrunner, Young confirmed the news today.


“He had a medical with the Carlton Football Club yesterday and it went fairly well and I know they had a meeting this morning and so Carlton’s his choice," Young told SEN's Whateley.

Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: elephants on September 27, 2018, 11:07:38 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 26, 2018, 06:12:35 PM
Hickey is useless

Another Hickey bashing post with no substance or evidence to support your case. Congratulations on adding nothing to the discussion clap clap
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Pkbaldy on September 27, 2018, 12:10:28 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 27, 2018, 11:07:38 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 26, 2018, 06:12:35 PM
Hickey is useless

Another Hickey bashing post with no substance or evidence to support your case. Congratulations on adding nothing to the discussion clap clap

Hickey is doo doo.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on September 27, 2018, 12:31:42 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on September 27, 2018, 12:10:28 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 27, 2018, 11:07:38 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 26, 2018, 06:12:35 PM
Hickey is useless

Another Hickey bashing post with no substance or evidence to support your case. Congratulations on adding nothing to the discussion clap clap

Hickey is doo doo.
Hickey , Roughhead , Lobb why wouldn't they go hard after Preuss ?
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on September 27, 2018, 12:40:43 PM
McGovern has had a medical with the Blues and his manager has quashed suggestions he is leaving the Crows because of money just does not want to be with Crows any more it seems , this will make trade negotiations between the clubs very interesting.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: TomK on September 27, 2018, 12:45:54 PM
Quote from: shaker on September 27, 2018, 12:40:43 PM
McGovern has had a medical with the Blues and his manager has quashed suggestions he is leaving the Crows because of money just does not want to be with Crows any more it seems , this will make trade negotiations between the clubs very interesting.
Lost faith in the direction of the club apparently, but wants to go to Carlton, lel sure thing Mitch
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Pkbaldy on September 27, 2018, 01:03:41 PM
Quote from: shaker on September 27, 2018, 12:31:42 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on September 27, 2018, 12:10:28 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 27, 2018, 11:07:38 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 26, 2018, 06:12:35 PM
Hickey is useless

Another Hickey bashing post with no substance or evidence to support your case. Congratulations on adding nothing to the discussion clap clap

Hickey is doo doo.
Hickey , Roughhead , Lobb why wouldn't they go hard after Preuss ?

I think Preuss has come out and said he'll only deal with Melbourne... Odd.. Must like Casey.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on September 27, 2018, 01:16:34 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on September 27, 2018, 01:03:41 PM
Quote from: shaker on September 27, 2018, 12:31:42 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on September 27, 2018, 12:10:28 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 27, 2018, 11:07:38 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 26, 2018, 06:12:35 PM
Hickey is useless

Another Hickey bashing post with no substance or evidence to support your case. Congratulations on adding nothing to the discussion clap clap

Hickey is doo doo.
Hickey , Roughhead , Lobb why wouldn't they go hard after Preuss ?

I think Preuss has come out and said he'll only deal with Melbourne... Odd.. Must like Casey.
Very odd Gawn is like 3 years younger than Goldy mabye big Max is going to retire and hit the world beard growing competitions.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 27, 2018, 02:52:28 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 27, 2018, 11:07:38 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 26, 2018, 06:12:35 PM
Hickey is useless

Another Hickey bashing post with no substance or evidence to support your case. Congratulations on adding nothing to the discussion clap clap

if he wasnt useless i would of had offers for him in adt
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Money Shot on September 27, 2018, 03:00:22 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 27, 2018, 12:45:54 PM
Quote from: shaker on September 27, 2018, 12:40:43 PM
McGovern has had a medical with the Blues and his manager has quashed suggestions he is leaving the Crows because of money just does not want to be with Crows any more it seems , this will make trade negotiations between the clubs very interesting.
Lost faith in the direction of the club apparently, but wants to go to Carlton, lel sure thing Mitch

Cartlon: Recieve: McGovern - Give: Pick 24 and Pick 25
Adelaide: Recieve: Pick 17 - Give McGovern
Gold Coast: Recieve: Pick 24 and Pick 25 - Give pick 17

Carlton get McGovern for what they are willing to give, Adelaide recieve there first round pick, Gold Coast get two young talented players to restart there rebuild instead of one.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: R.Griffen on September 27, 2018, 05:36:18 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on September 27, 2018, 03:00:22 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 27, 2018, 12:45:54 PM
Quote from: shaker on September 27, 2018, 12:40:43 PM
McGovern has had a medical with the Blues and his manager has quashed suggestions he is leaving the Crows because of money just does not want to be with Crows any more it seems , this will make trade negotiations between the clubs very interesting.
Lost faith in the direction of the club apparently, but wants to go to Carlton, lel sure thing Mitch

Cartlon: Recieve: McGovern - Give: Pick 24 and Pick 25
Adelaide: Recieve: Pick 17 - Give McGovern
Gold Coast: Recieve: Pick 24 and Pick 25 - Give pick 17

Carlton get McGovern for what they are willing to give, Adelaide recieve there first round pick, Gold Coast get two young talented players to restart there rebuild instead of one.
17 for Gov? no chance
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Nige on September 27, 2018, 07:17:07 PM
Ryan Clarke has toured Swans HQ. Still has a year to run on his contract though so would need to be traded. Might mean we see a Ryan Clarke for Nic Newman trade since Newman's been linked to Norf.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: crowls on September 28, 2018, 10:34:26 PM
Quote from: enzedder on September 26, 2018, 06:13:17 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 26, 2018, 10:59:59 AM
Dean Kent has requested a trade. St Kilda have offered 3 years

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/melbourne-s-dean-kent-wants-to-be-a-saint-20180925-p505zp.html (https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/melbourne-s-dean-kent-wants-to-be-a-saint-20180925-p505zp.html)
Dean Who?
63 games in 6 years. Yawn.
Hamstring troubles. Quick. Been there with Freeman. OK.
Career best season averageof 16 possies. Lovely.
Saints want him.
SOLD!
Kent and Hanners at the Saints = finals in 2019. Maybe not.
Who needs to rid themselves of muppets, the Saints will offer them 3-5 years.
not sure the saints have a clear picture of what is required to build depth in their list.    sad to watch.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on September 29, 2018, 01:34:59 AM
Quote from: crowls on September 28, 2018, 10:34:26 PM
Quote from: enzedder on September 26, 2018, 06:13:17 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 26, 2018, 10:59:59 AM
Dean Kent has requested a trade. St Kilda have offered 3 years

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/melbourne-s-dean-kent-wants-to-be-a-saint-20180925-p505zp.html (https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/melbourne-s-dean-kent-wants-to-be-a-saint-20180925-p505zp.html)
Dean Who?
63 games in 6 years. Yawn.
Hamstring troubles. Quick. Been there with Freeman. OK.
Career best season averageof 16 possies. Lovely.
Saints want him.
SOLD!
Kent and Hanners at the Saints = finals in 2019. Maybe not.
Who needs to rid themselves of muppets, the Saints will offer them 3-5 years.
not sure the saints have a clear picture of what is required to build depth in their list.    sad to watch.
it's not like we're bringing Kent in as the savior. he's a cheap pick up with AFL experience. so what if he turns out to be a bust. slight risk for potentially bigger reward

Hanners is a gun. I read something like "there's a handful of players currently playing with top 3 brownlow finishes, Hannebery is the youngest". sure he's had some injuries, and he almost definitely won't get back to his best but he'll be a damn good teacher for the young ones. we have no one on our list with his knowledge and experience. and he actually wants to play for us. it's a no brainer. we won't be using our first pick on him so we'll still put that to good use, be it a trade or used in the draft

it's damned if we do, damned if we don't to some people
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: crowls on September 29, 2018, 01:49:38 AM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on September 29, 2018, 01:34:59 AM
Quote from: crowls on September 28, 2018, 10:34:26 PM
Quote from: enzedder on September 26, 2018, 06:13:17 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 26, 2018, 10:59:59 AM
Dean Kent has requested a trade. St Kilda have offered 3 years

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/melbourne-s-dean-kent-wants-to-be-a-saint-20180925-p505zp.html (https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/melbourne-s-dean-kent-wants-to-be-a-saint-20180925-p505zp.html)
Dean Who?
63 games in 6 years. Yawn.
Hamstring troubles. Quick. Been there with Freeman. OK.
Career best season averageof 16 possies. Lovely.
Saints want him.
SOLD!
Kent and Hanners at the Saints = finals in 2019. Maybe not.
Who needs to rid themselves of muppets, the Saints will offer them 3-5 years.
not sure the saints have a clear picture of what is required to build depth in their list.    sad to watch.
it's not like we're bringing Kent in as the savior. he's a cheap pick up with AFL experience. so what if he turns out to be a bust. slight risk for potentially bigger reward

Hanners is a gun. I read something like "there's a handful of players currently playing with top 3 brownlow finishes, Hannebery is the youngest". sure he's had some injuries, and he almost definitely won't get back to his best but he'll be a damn good teacher for the young ones. we have no one on our list with his knowledge and experience. and he actually wants to play for us. it's a no brainer. we won't be using our first pick on him so we'll still put that to good use, be it a trade or used in the draft

it's damned if we do, damned if we don't to some people
so what else do you see is required for the saints to move forward?   in regard to hanners it seems you are paying well over value, is that the best use of funds?
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on September 29, 2018, 02:06:31 AM
Quote from: crowls on September 29, 2018, 01:49:38 AM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on September 29, 2018, 01:34:59 AM
Quote from: crowls on September 28, 2018, 10:34:26 PM
Quote from: enzedder on September 26, 2018, 06:13:17 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 26, 2018, 10:59:59 AM
Dean Kent has requested a trade. St Kilda have offered 3 years

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/melbourne-s-dean-kent-wants-to-be-a-saint-20180925-p505zp.html (https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/melbourne-s-dean-kent-wants-to-be-a-saint-20180925-p505zp.html)
Dean Who?
63 games in 6 years. Yawn.
Hamstring troubles. Quick. Been there with Freeman. OK.
Career best season averageof 16 possies. Lovely.
Saints want him.
SOLD!
Kent and Hanners at the Saints = finals in 2019. Maybe not.
Who needs to rid themselves of muppets, the Saints will offer them 3-5 years.
not sure the saints have a clear picture of what is required to build depth in their list.    sad to watch.
it's not like we're bringing Kent in as the savior. he's a cheap pick up with AFL experience. so what if he turns out to be a bust. slight risk for potentially bigger reward

Hanners is a gun. I read something like "there's a handful of players currently playing with top 3 brownlow finishes, Hannebery is the youngest". sure he's had some injuries, and he almost definitely won't get back to his best but he'll be a damn good teacher for the young ones. we have no one on our list with his knowledge and experience. and he actually wants to play for us. it's a no brainer. we won't be using our first pick on him so we'll still put that to good use, be it a trade or used in the draft

it's damned if we do, damned if we don't to some people
so what else do you see is required for the saints to move forward?   in regard to hanners it seems you are paying well over value, is that the best use of funds?
probably a few things. a few of our guys are unknowns because they haven't got game time. will Austin be able to hold down full back this year if Brown doesn't play?

if Paddy can get himself fit and stop smashing his head that will go a long way to improving his confidence in himself

Bruce hopefully fit and firing

I think our forward line is okay. we need midfield class, pace would be good. obviously Hanners won't help with that but he might take some of the focus off Steven and maybe Steven will go nuts

a classy midfielder with pace isn't something that's on offer right now (that I can think of)

we have a ton of cash just waiting to be used. that's why we can offer massive overs. I think we're offering Shiel 1.3 mill over 7 years or something, but that's what we have to do to get players over atm. who's gonna request a trade to St Kilda after the year we just had for the same amount of cash they could get elsewhere
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ringo on September 29, 2018, 09:25:19 AM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on September 29, 2018, 02:06:31 AM
Quote from: crowls on September 29, 2018, 01:49:38 AM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on September 29, 2018, 01:34:59 AM
Quote from: crowls on September 28, 2018, 10:34:26 PM
Quote from: enzedder on September 26, 2018, 06:13:17 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 26, 2018, 10:59:59 AM
Dean Kent has requested a trade. St Kilda have offered 3 years

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/melbourne-s-dean-kent-wants-to-be-a-saint-20180925-p505zp.html (https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/melbourne-s-dean-kent-wants-to-be-a-saint-20180925-p505zp.html)
Dean Who?
63 games in 6 years. Yawn.
Hamstring troubles. Quick. Been there with Freeman. OK.
Career best season averageof 16 possies. Lovely.
Saints want him.
SOLD!
Kent and Hanners at the Saints = finals in 2019. Maybe not.
Who needs to rid themselves of muppets, the Saints will offer them 3-5 years.
not sure the saints have a clear picture of what is required to build depth in their list.    sad to watch.
it's not like we're bringing Kent in as the savior. he's a cheap pick up with AFL experience. so what if he turns out to be a bust. slight risk for potentially bigger reward

Hanners is a gun. I read something like "there's a handful of players currently playing with top 3 brownlow finishes, Hannebery is the youngest". sure he's had some injuries, and he almost definitely won't get back to his best but he'll be a damn good teacher for the young ones. we have no one on our list with his knowledge and experience. and he actually wants to play for us. it's a no brainer. we won't be using our first pick on him so we'll still put that to good use, be it a trade or used in the draft

it's damned if we do, damned if we don't to some people
so what else do you see is required for the saints to move forward?   in regard to hanners it seems you are paying well over value, is that the best use of funds?
probably a few things. a few of our guys are unknowns because they haven't got game time. will Austin be able to hold down full back this year if Brown doesn't play?

if Paddy can get himself fit and stop smashing his head that will go a long way to improving his confidence in himself

Bruce hopefully fit and firing

I think our forward line is okay. we need midfield class, pace would be good. obviously Hanners won't help with that but he might take some of the focus off Steven and maybe Steven will go nuts

a classy midfielder with pace isn't something that's on offer right now (that I can think of)

we have a ton of cash just waiting to be used. that's why we can offer massive overs. I think we're offering Shiel 1.3 mill over 7 years or something, but that's what we have to do to get players over atm. who's gonna request a trade to St Kilda after the year we just had for the same amount of cash they could get elsewhere
This in my opinion is where free agency etc falls down. Whilst it is designed to even the competition teams at the lower end of the table usually have to pay overs to get the players.  This something the AFL should look a but not sure what can be done as the higher placed clubs will continue to be the preferred destinations.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Rusty00 on September 29, 2018, 03:24:42 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 29, 2018, 09:25:19 AM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on September 29, 2018, 02:06:31 AM
Quote from: crowls on September 29, 2018, 01:49:38 AM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on September 29, 2018, 01:34:59 AM
Quote from: crowls on September 28, 2018, 10:34:26 PM
Quote from: enzedder on September 26, 2018, 06:13:17 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 26, 2018, 10:59:59 AM
Dean Kent has requested a trade. St Kilda have offered 3 years

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/melbourne-s-dean-kent-wants-to-be-a-saint-20180925-p505zp.html (https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/melbourne-s-dean-kent-wants-to-be-a-saint-20180925-p505zp.html)
Dean Who?
63 games in 6 years. Yawn.
Hamstring troubles. Quick. Been there with Freeman. OK.
Career best season averageof 16 possies. Lovely.
Saints want him.
SOLD!
Kent and Hanners at the Saints = finals in 2019. Maybe not.
Who needs to rid themselves of muppets, the Saints will offer them 3-5 years.
not sure the saints have a clear picture of what is required to build depth in their list.    sad to watch.
it's not like we're bringing Kent in as the savior. he's a cheap pick up with AFL experience. so what if he turns out to be a bust. slight risk for potentially bigger reward

Hanners is a gun. I read something like "there's a handful of players currently playing with top 3 brownlow finishes, Hannebery is the youngest". sure he's had some injuries, and he almost definitely won't get back to his best but he'll be a damn good teacher for the young ones. we have no one on our list with his knowledge and experience. and he actually wants to play for us. it's a no brainer. we won't be using our first pick on him so we'll still put that to good use, be it a trade or used in the draft

it's damned if we do, damned if we don't to some people
so what else do you see is required for the saints to move forward?   in regard to hanners it seems you are paying well over value, is that the best use of funds?
probably a few things. a few of our guys are unknowns because they haven't got game time. will Austin be able to hold down full back this year if Brown doesn't play?

if Paddy can get himself fit and stop smashing his head that will go a long way to improving his confidence in himself

Bruce hopefully fit and firing

I think our forward line is okay. we need midfield class, pace would be good. obviously Hanners won't help with that but he might take some of the focus off Steven and maybe Steven will go nuts

a classy midfielder with pace isn't something that's on offer right now (that I can think of)

we have a ton of cash just waiting to be used. that's why we can offer massive overs. I think we're offering Shiel 1.3 mill over 7 years or something, but that's what we have to do to get players over atm. who's gonna request a trade to St Kilda after the year we just had for the same amount of cash they could get elsewhere
This in my opinion is where free agency etc falls down. Whilst it is designed to even the competition teams at the lower end of the table usually have to pay overs to get the players.  This something the AFL should look a but not sure what can be done as the higher placed clubs will continue to be the preferred destinations.
Free agency is for the players. It was brought in to give players freedom to move clubs (not that having a contract stops them these days). Whether we like it or not free agency is never going to “even up the Comp”.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Menzel Washington on September 30, 2018, 06:54:33 PM
Would Adelaide's two first round picks (7 and 15) plus McGovern get them pick 1?

In terms of how much value each pick has pick 1 is 3,000 points, 7 is 1,644 and 15 is 1,112 so total points of 2,756. I've seen people saying it will be a straight trade of pick 24 for McGovern, and pick 24 has a value of 785. So really McGovern plus the two picks for pick 1 is an even trade??
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: TomK on September 30, 2018, 07:21:03 PM
Quote from: Menzel Washington on September 30, 2018, 06:54:33 PM
Would Adelaide's two first round picks (7 and 15) plus McGovern get them pick 1?

In terms of how much value each pick has pick 1 is 3,000 points, 7 is 1,644 and 15 is 1,112 so total points of 2,756. I've seen people saying it will be a straight trade of pick 24 for McGovern, and pick 24 has a value of 785. So really McGovern plus the two picks for pick 1 is an even trade??
nty
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Mat0369 on September 30, 2018, 08:16:02 PM
Quote from: Menzel Washington on September 30, 2018, 06:54:33 PM
Would Adelaide's two first round picks (7 and 15) plus McGovern get them pick 1?

In terms of how much value each pick has pick 1 is 3,000 points, 7 is 1,644 and 15 is 1,112 so total points of 2,756. I've seen people saying it will be a straight trade of pick 24 for McGovern, and pick 24 has a value of 785. So really McGovern plus the two picks for pick 1 is an even trade??

It will be 8 (Lynch FA compo) and possibly 17 (pending Polec compo to Port) which drops the value a fraction more. I think if pick 1 is involved for McGovern that is still the likely deal.

I think the Blues will want to use pick 1 for the Shiel trade if he nominates us. You're likely to see pick 1 and our 2nd next year for Shiel, Setterfield and the Giants first next year or 23 this year and their 2nd next season. So basically an early 2nd for Setterfield and then 1 for Shiel and the Giants first next year if they bank themselves on finishing at the back end. We may take a salary dump to get a discount in the deal as well.

No priority pick will leave us a little light in the trade department now. If Shiel decides to stay at GWS that probably helps us out as we have enough ammo to get all our deals over the line. We could then make that trade for pick 1, trade back up using our picks to grab say pick 2 from GCS and still get Walsh.

If it came down to one of Shiel or McGovern I'd rather Shiel. However he may be available as a FA next year and won't cost us any draft capital meaning that McGovern is the guy they grab this season.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Menzel Washington on September 30, 2018, 09:10:13 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on September 30, 2018, 08:16:02 PM
Quote from: Menzel Washington on September 30, 2018, 06:54:33 PM
Would Adelaide's two first round picks (7 and 15) plus McGovern get them pick 1?

In terms of how much value each pick has pick 1 is 3,000 points, 7 is 1,644 and 15 is 1,112 so total points of 2,756. I've seen people saying it will be a straight trade of pick 24 for McGovern, and pick 24 has a value of 785. So really McGovern plus the two picks for pick 1 is an even trade??

It will be 8 (Lynch FA compo) and possibly 17 (pending Polec compo to Port) which drops the value a fraction more. I think if pick 1 is involved for McGovern that is still the likely deal.

I think the Blues will want to use pick 1 for the Shiel trade if he nominates us. You're likely to see pick 1 and our 2nd next year for Shiel, Setterfield and the Giants first next year or 23 this year and their 2nd next season. So basically an early 2nd for Setterfield and then 1 for Shiel and the Giants first next year if they bank themselves on finishing at the back end. We may take a salary dump to get a discount in the deal as well.

No priority pick will leave us a little light in the trade department now. If Shiel decides to stay at GWS that probably helps us out as we have enough ammo to get all our deals over the line. We could then make that trade for pick 1, trade back up using our picks to grab say pick 2 from GCS and still get Walsh.

If it came down to one of Shiel or McGovern I'd rather Shiel. However he may be available as a FA next year and won't cost us any draft capital meaning that McGovern is the guy they grab this season.
Ah yeah forgot about the compo picks. That's a good point. But surely the Crows are going to go hard to try and get that number 1 pick with the SA talent available in this draft they need to get at least one of them and at pick 8 that won't be good enough for Lukosius or Rankine.

Will be interesting to see how it all plays out...
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: enzedder on October 01, 2018, 12:58:27 PM
Wingard is set to stay at Port Adelaide according to the HS
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 01, 2018, 05:53:39 PM
Gary Rohan will go to Geelong only, or stay in Sydney

Jacob Townsend is looking to move, with Saints and GC interested

Lobb is returning to WA - either this year or next year but it's happening

Collingwood looking at Marcus Adams
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Money Shot on October 01, 2018, 06:07:58 PM
Quote from: Menzel Washington on September 30, 2018, 06:54:33 PM
Would Adelaide's two first round picks (7 and 15) plus McGovern get them pick 1?

In terms of how much value each pick has pick 1 is 3,000 points, 7 is 1,644 and 15 is 1,112 so total points of 2,756. I've seen people saying it will be a straight trade of pick 24 for McGovern, and pick 24 has a value of 785. So really McGovern plus the two picks for pick 1 is an even trade??
I'm pretty confident that Carlton won't trade pick 1 even if it's for Shiel let alone McGovern. From all reports we want Walsh.

Next years first and second for Shiel and Setterfield
and then pick up some SANFL guys and swap 24 and 25 and hopefully thats enough to land McGovern
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 01, 2018, 06:40:54 PM
Barlow isn't ready to retire yet, and is hoping he can be picked up

He actually said Carlton would be a good fit, and that he could help Cripps in terms of taking some of the load, plus provide leadership etc
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: AaronKirk on October 01, 2018, 06:47:43 PM
Am I the only impartial person who thinks Carlton should not go for Mitch McGovern?

Keep developing McKay, Curnow as forwards and use your currency you have to go after mids to help Cripps.

Surely midfield quality players like Shiel are a higher priority for Carlton?
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Money Shot on October 01, 2018, 06:52:49 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 01, 2018, 06:40:54 PM
Barlow isn't ready to retire yet, and is hoping he can be picked up

He actually said Carlton would be a good fit, and that he could help Cripps in terms of taking some of the load, plus provide leadership etc
Part of me would love him at Carlton as in my eyes he would easily be best 22 and help take some pressure off Cripps. In saying that he would push one of our fringe best 22 players (O'brien for example) out of the side which would not be much of a help in the long run.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Money Shot on October 01, 2018, 06:54:05 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 01, 2018, 06:47:43 PM
Am I the only impartial person who thinks Carlton should not go for Mitch McGovern?

Keep developing McKay, Curnow as forwards and use your currency you have to go after mids to help Cripps.

Surely midfield quality players like Shiel are a higher priority for Carlton?
100% agree. If we can get him for a fair price (24, 25 and a SANFL player) he is worth it but I would much rather use a top end pick on getting the top end midfielders.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: TomK on October 01, 2018, 07:01:17 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 01, 2018, 06:07:58 PM
then pick up some SANFL guys and swap 24 and 25 and hopefully thats enough to land McGovern
Well it won’t be
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: iZander on October 01, 2018, 07:04:42 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 01, 2018, 06:54:05 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 01, 2018, 06:47:43 PM
Am I the only impartial person who thinks Carlton should not go for Mitch McGovern?

Keep developing McKay, Curnow as forwards and use your currency you have to go after mids to help Cripps.

Surely midfield quality players like Shiel are a higher priority for Carlton?
100% agree. If we can get him for a fair price (24, 25 and a SANFL player) he is worth it but I would much rather use a top end pick on getting the top end midfielders.
I had no idea Mitch Mcgovern was this good :P Talks of him being in a deal for N1 are ridiculous surly, i wouldnt even pay the above this year tbh
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Big Mac on October 01, 2018, 07:12:53 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 01, 2018, 07:01:17 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 01, 2018, 06:07:58 PM
then pick up some SANFL guys and swap 24 and 25 and hopefully thats enough to land McGovern
Well it won’t be

Would be happy to hear your thoughts but not sure how you can expect more than that
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 01, 2018, 08:03:06 PM
The only reason Carlton are chasing Gov and probably paying overs is because he is one of the rare players who actually said he wants to go to them!

A single pick in the 17-24 range is all he's worth, but I'm sure overs will be paid
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 01, 2018, 08:09:56 PM
Can't see the Crows making it to easy for the Blues after the Gibbs saga but then again Gov does not wan't to be there so that might dampen there bargaining power a bit.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Cookie311993 on October 01, 2018, 08:18:02 PM
Would seem like the suns are a good shot at getting Townsend. Potentially getting 2 more former tigers in during the off season, 3 would increase the chance of keeping them all

It’s hard being a Queenslander following the AFL, we can’t seem to keep anyone decent
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: TomK on October 01, 2018, 08:40:08 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 01, 2018, 07:12:53 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 01, 2018, 07:01:17 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 01, 2018, 06:07:58 PM
then pick up some SANFL guys and swap 24 and 25 and hopefully thats enough to land McGovern
Well it won’t be
Would be happy to hear your thoughts but not sure how you can expect more than that
Whilst he’s definitely not worth anything near pick 1, I don’t think it’s fair to judge him based on his 2018 or even his 2017 season due to injuries, form etc., look at his first year of playing AFL footy where he kicked 32 goals while pretty much playing as the 5th option. He’s a key forward who is extremely agile for his size, great contested mark, and provides a lot defensive pressure which most KPFs don’t do, there’s a reason Carlton are paying him the big bucks now, he can also play behind the ball as an interceptor. You could replace a small forward with him and barely lose anything on the ground except a bit of speed but gain a huge marking threat. The club has already said we will only trade him if we get a good deal, and a mid range 2nd and a mature age player who might not go until the rookie draft otherwise is not a good deal for us. If the deal doesn’t significantly help us land Luko or Rankine, I wouldn’t be surprised if we hold him to his contract, the club believes they’re still in a premiership window and Mitch would be a big part of that. If that happens and Mitch cracks the showers and doesn’t perform, all he does is damage his payday next offseason and his trade value in the club’s case but we’re not just gonna give him away for peanuts now. All that being said though, I have no idea what the deal with end up being :P Hopefully a mid first rounder around 10 with something else of ours going their way, how Carlton gets that done I don’t know, but a 3rd club may need to be involved.

Also sorry for essay :P
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: iZander on October 01, 2018, 08:45:36 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 01, 2018, 08:40:08 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 01, 2018, 07:12:53 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 01, 2018, 07:01:17 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 01, 2018, 06:07:58 PM
then pick up some SANFL guys and swap 24 and 25 and hopefully thats enough to land McGovern
Well it won’t be
Would be happy to hear your thoughts but not sure how you can expect more than that
Whilst he’s definitely not worth anything near pick 1, I don’t think it’s fair to judge him based on his 2018 or even his 2017 season due to injuries, form etc., look at his first year of playing AFL footy where he kicked 32 goals while pretty much playing as the 5th option. He’s a key forward who is extremely agile for his size, great contested mark, and provides a lot defensive pressure which most KPFs don’t do, there’s a reason Carlton are paying him the big bucks now, he can also play behind the ball as an interceptor. You could replace a small forward with him and barely lose anything on the ground except a bit of speed but gain a huge marking threat. The club has already said we will only trade him if we get a good deal, and a mid range 2nd and a mature age player who might not go until the rookie draft otherwise is not a good deal for us. If the deal doesn’t significantly help us land Luko or Rankine, I wouldn’t be surprised if we hold him to his contract, the club believes they’re still in a premiership window and Mitch would be a big part of that. If that happens and Mitch cracks the showers and doesn’t perform, all he does is damage his payday next offseason and his trade value in the club’s case but we’re not just gonna give him away for peanuts now. All that being said though, I have no idea what the deal with end up being :P Hopefully a mid first rounder around 10 with something else of ours going their way, how Carlton gets that done I don’t know, but a 3rd club may need to be involved.

Also sorry for essay :P
Worth pick 2 imo :P Grab yourself one of Lukio or Rankine otherwise you wouldnt bother losing such a high calibre player ;)
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 02, 2018, 12:09:01 AM
Vandenberg going to Sydney according to On The Couch
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 02, 2018, 12:13:54 AM
Saints have offered Shiel 8M for 6 years.

Wowzer
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ringo on October 02, 2018, 09:32:06 AM
Pillage of the Suns continues with Kade  Kolodjashnij reportedly seeking a trade to Melbourne.

Also a bit of a rumour that Pies have given up on Marcus Adams and Brisbane may be offering a 4 year deal. Could be some truth here as Fages has always wanted to try Andrews forward.  Will be graet doe Brisbane if we land Neale, Adams, McCarthy and some suggesting Jackson Thurlow as well although do not want him. Mayes wants to return to SA so there may be a movement out and some rumours of Ben Keays wanting to go to the Suns.

One thing for certain though this is going to be the most exciting trade period ever as I think I am now up to 40 players leaving clubs according to rumours.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: LaHug on October 02, 2018, 11:19:31 AM
Lynch has finally announced to Gold Coast that he's going to Richmond. Let's just hope this all goes as smoothly as it should...
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: elephants on October 02, 2018, 11:22:51 AM
Thurlow could definitely come good, like for like for Mayes I reckon. Two high picks that have yet to live up to their hype, an extended run at it up in Brissie could be the go

Biiig Adams fan if he can get his body right
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SilverLion on October 02, 2018, 11:28:45 AM
Quote from: Ringo on October 02, 2018, 09:32:06 AM
Pillage of the Suns continues with Kade  Kolodjashnij reportedly seeking a trade to Melbourne.

Also a bit of a rumour that Pies have given up on Marcus Adams and Brisbane may be offering a 3 year deal. Could be some truth here as Fages has always wanted to try Andrews forward.  Will be graet doe Brisbane if we land Neale, Adams, McCarthy and some suggesting Jackson Thurlow as well although do not want him. Mayes wants to return to SA so there may be a movement out and some rumours of Ben Keays wanting to go to the Suns.

One thing for certain though this is going to be the most exciting trade period ever as I think I am now up to 40 players leaving clubs according to rumours.
Think McStay goes forward personally. Wouldn't move Andrews, was almost AA. Walker and Gardiner also locks down back I'd think.

Andrews, Adams would be like a Barrass, McGovern/ Rance, Astbury etc.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ringo on October 02, 2018, 11:31:58 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 02, 2018, 11:28:45 AM
Quote from: Ringo on October 02, 2018, 09:32:06 AM
Pillage of the Suns continues with Kade  Kolodjashnij reportedly seeking a trade to Melbourne.

Also a bit of a rumour that Pies have given up on Marcus Adams and Brisbane may be offering a 3 year deal. Could be some truth here as Fages has always wanted to try Andrews forward.  Will be graet doe Brisbane if we land Neale, Adams, McCarthy and some suggesting Jackson Thurlow as well although do not want him. Mayes wants to return to SA so there may be a movement out and some rumours of Ben Keays wanting to go to the Suns.

One thing for certain though this is going to be the most exciting trade period ever as I think I am now up to 40 players leaving clubs according to rumours.
Think McStay goes forward personally. Wouldn't move Andrews, was almost AA. Walker and Gardiner also locks down back I'd think.

Andrews, Adams would be like a Barrass, McGovern/ Rance, Astbury etc.
Nor would I SL but Fages has mentioned it a couple of times that he would like to see how he goes forward.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 02, 2018, 12:04:48 PM
Things looking up for the Lions if they can snag Neale and Adams plus the others mentioned could see a rapid rise up the ladder if they can pull it off  ;)
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: LaHug on October 02, 2018, 12:26:49 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 02, 2018, 12:04:48 PM
Things looking up for the Lions if they can snag Neale and Adams plus the others mentioned could see a rapid rise up the ladder if they can pull it off  ;)

The trick is to finish 13th next year if they want to make the Grand Final in the following season.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 02, 2018, 12:31:39 PM
Quote from: LaHug on October 02, 2018, 12:26:49 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 02, 2018, 12:04:48 PM
Things looking up for the Lions if they can snag Neale and Adams plus the others mentioned could see a rapid rise up the ladder if they can pull it off  ;)

The trick is to finish 13th next year if they want to make the Grand Final in the following season.
The number 13 unlucky for some  ;)
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 02, 2018, 02:05:21 PM
Sam Lloyd going to the Dogs
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ringo on October 02, 2018, 02:25:37 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 02, 2018, 12:31:39 PM
Quote from: LaHug on October 02, 2018, 12:26:49 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 02, 2018, 12:04:48 PM
Things looking up for the Lions if they can snag Neale and Adams plus the others mentioned could see a rapid rise up the ladder if they can pull it off  ;)

The trick is to finish 13th next year if they want to make the Grand Final in the following season.
The number 13 unlucky for some  ;)
Do not be surprised if there is some further action from Lions if the Neale and Adams trades are finalised early. Some speculation that we make a play for Dom Tyson as an inside mid which we really need.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 02, 2018, 02:56:40 PM
Saints and Hawks looking at Amon

Another Sun wants to leave - Scrimshaw wants to head back to Melbourne, although he is contracted for 2 more years
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: crowls on October 02, 2018, 03:37:56 PM
Poor bloody Suns,  may as well fold them up and split up the players.   Or move to the Sunshine Coast and see how you go, worked for the netballers.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: AaronKirk on October 02, 2018, 05:14:14 PM
Jack Hombsch a target for the Gold Coast to bring in according to Michelangelo Rucci via Adelaide Advertiser.

The same article reckons Collingwood and North Melbourne are looking at Jake Neade and reiterates RD's point from earlier that clubs are looking at Amon - St Kilda and Hawthorn.

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/teams/port-adelaide/port-adelaide-defender-jack-hombsch-could-play-key-role-in-revival-of-gold-coast-suns-with-jake-neade-karl-amon-and-chad-wingard-also-in-trade-discussions/news-story/ada4c0ffdcec1f5394a1f3e2bf4b4014
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 02, 2018, 06:08:03 PM
A lot of Melbourne updates here

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-10-02/hogan-decision-looming-as-dees-target-sun
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ringo on October 02, 2018, 06:50:00 PM
Carlton: Levi Casboult has been told he's on the trade table by the Blues

Geelong: Jackson Thurlow, Jordan Murdoch & Daniel Menzel advised to explore opportunities elsewhere

Sydney: Dean Towers, Jordan Foote, Angus Styles & Jake Brown have been delisted

Fremantle: Lachie Neale has decided to join Brisbane on a 5yr deal via @sam_mcclure via @traderadio
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SydneyRox on October 02, 2018, 07:41:18 PM

Towers @ Sydney can consider himself a little unlucky i would think.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Mat0369 on October 03, 2018, 12:21:25 AM
Byrne possibly not returning from Ireland for the Blues.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Mat0369 on October 03, 2018, 12:34:13 AM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 01, 2018, 06:47:43 PM
Am I the only impartial person who thinks Carlton should not go for Mitch McGovern?

Keep developing McKay, Curnow as forwards and use your currency you have to go after mids to help Cripps.

Surely midfield quality players like Shiel are a higher priority for Carlton?

Bias opinion and completely agree. Downside is he apparently confirmed the Hawks were his club of choice today and that means we have to focus our attention elsewhere. There is huge list of players that we were looking at this off-season. A lot of the options I don't like but I have the list below that have been linked at some point.

Shiel
McGovern
Setterfield
Brodie
Scrimshaw
Barlow
Gaff (never going to happen but they took a shot)
Tyson
Libba
Wallis
Goddard
Menzel
Fasolo
Hall (committed to the Roos now)
Scully (cap dump in the Shiel/Setterfield deal)
Dunstan
Lonie

Probably also a couple others that I can't remember or have committed elsewhere

I have this gut feeling that talks will break down and we're likely to get left with just Fasolo at the end which is depressing. However I'd be even more pissed off if we traded next years first for McGovern. That's the pick that's being thrown around as a part of the Shiel trade and it makes sense if we did get all three of Shiel, Scully and Setterfield in that deal. It goes a long way to solving our midfield depth issues when you add in Walsh as a number 1 pick. 
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: enzedder on October 03, 2018, 09:37:40 AM
I’m glad the Saints are throwing the kitchen sink at Shiel. Is he worth that much? Probably not but given the state of our list and lack of stars the dollars aren’t the issue especially if it is front end loaded.
After Hanners made his intent clear  I thought the Shiel interest would die but if the funds are there then great.
Talk is that Shiel is likely to go to the Hawks though Carlton are making a play for him too.


Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: LaHug on October 03, 2018, 09:42:01 AM
Quote from: enzedder on October 03, 2018, 09:37:40 AM
I’m glad the Saints are throwing the kitchen sink at Shiel. Is he worth that much? Probably not but given the state of our list and lack of stars the dollars aren’t the issue especially if it is front end loaded.
After Hanners made his intent clear  I thought the Shiel interest would die but if the funds are there then great.
Talk is that Shiel is likely to go to the Hawks though Carlton are making a play for him too.

Looks like he's more than happy to take less money and go to Hawthorn for a chance at Top 4. Which sucks for St Kilda, obviously. What more can you do than offer way overs?
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: iZander on October 03, 2018, 09:52:11 AM
Quote from: LaHug on October 03, 2018, 09:42:01 AM
Quote from: enzedder on October 03, 2018, 09:37:40 AM
I’m glad the Saints are throwing the kitchen sink at Shiel. Is he worth that much? Probably not but given the state of our list and lack of stars the dollars aren’t the issue especially if it is front end loaded.
After Hanners made his intent clear  I thought the Shiel interest would die but if the funds are there then great.
Talk is that Shiel is likely to go to the Hawks though Carlton are making a play for him too.

Looks like he's more than happy to take less money and go to Hawthorn for a chance at Top 4. Which sucks for St Kilda, obviously. What more can you do than offer way overs?
You can create a good culture and show plays saints are going in the right direction!! Worth way more than overs! The effects of contracts as big of that I think is far more negative than people realise because they don’t associate the effects till a few years later!
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Toga on October 03, 2018, 10:22:44 AM
Quote from: LaHug on October 03, 2018, 09:42:01 AM
Quote from: enzedder on October 03, 2018, 09:37:40 AM
I’m glad the Saints are throwing the kitchen sink at Shiel. Is he worth that much? Probably not but given the state of our list and lack of stars the dollars aren’t the issue especially if it is front end loaded.
After Hanners made his intent clear  I thought the Shiel interest would die but if the funds are there then great.
Talk is that Shiel is likely to go to the Hawks though Carlton are making a play for him too.

Looks like he's more than happy to take less money and go to Hawthorn for a chance at Top 4. Which sucks for St Kilda, obviously. What more can you do than offer way overs?

Not much as you can see from North Melbourne's pursuit of a big fish last year (Dusty, Kelly). Which has lead them to a position in which they're looking like overpaying a Polec type this year.

Quote from: iZander on October 03, 2018, 09:52:11 AM
You can create a good culture and show plays saints are going in the right direction!! Worth way more than overs! The effects of contracts as big of that I think is far more negative than people realise because they don’t associate the effects till a few years later!

But this is the answer - need to show that even if they're not going to be making top 4/finals next year that they will at least be trending in the right direction.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Football Factory on October 03, 2018, 11:19:56 AM
Quote from: crowls on October 02, 2018, 03:37:56 PM
Poor bloody Suns,  may as well fold them up and split up the players.   Or move to the Sunshine Coast and see how you go, worked for the netballers.

+1.. poor Dew

Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 03, 2018, 11:29:52 AM
If Shiel wants to win a flag then he could probably just stay at GWS

Seems odd that he would move from GWS to Hawthorn to try and win a flag - Hawks would be further away than winning one than GWS

Obviously the go home factor is in play though
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 03, 2018, 11:33:54 AM
Ryan Lester has signed on for another year

Tom Langdon finally been offered a contract, but sounds like he will be having a look around first

Gary Rohan tweeted, indicating that he is not wanted at Sydney, hence the request to move to Geelong
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 03, 2018, 11:52:14 AM
Tyson Stengle will be traded to Adelaide

Aaron Hall has confirmed he wants to be traded to Norf

Adelaide has laughed off suggestions Brad Crouch would be traded
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 03, 2018, 01:22:35 PM
Tim Watson says Darcy Moore is staying at the Pies take it to the bank he reckons maybe they have given Langdon a low ball offer because of this ?
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Menzel Washington on October 03, 2018, 01:23:01 PM
What would Adelaide give to Tigers for Stengle? Rookie draft player who has played 2 games in 2 years. Surely wouldn't have to give much??
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 03, 2018, 01:26:58 PM
Quote from: Menzel Washington on October 03, 2018, 01:23:01 PM
What would Adelaide give to Tigers for Stengle? Rookie draft player who has played 2 games in 2 years. Surely wouldn't have to give much??
I would say there 1st round pick  ;D
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: elephants on October 03, 2018, 01:33:00 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 03, 2018, 01:22:35 PM
Tim Watson says Darcy Moore is staying at the Pies take it to the bank he reckons maybe they have given Langdon a low ball offer because of this ?

Jesus I would take Langdon over Moore every day of the week. Esp after his grand final performance
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: elephants on October 03, 2018, 01:45:45 PM
Freo apparently offered Conca a 4 year deal. Who even needs Neale right?!
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Nige on October 03, 2018, 02:02:10 PM
Quote from: Menzel Washington on October 03, 2018, 01:23:01 PM
What would Adelaide give to Tigers for Stengle? Rookie draft player who has played 2 games in 2 years. Surely wouldn't have to give much??
Supremely talented and has great goal nous but is a tad slow, his main issue is/was being stuck behind Rioli/Butler/Castagna/Bolton/Higgins/Baker. Absolutely killed the VFL as one of our best regularly just unfortunately had no opportunity in the seniors.

A late draft pick will likely do it, but he's a very good chance to be Eddie's successor at the Crows I'd have thought, certainly has the ability.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 03, 2018, 02:04:03 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 03, 2018, 02:02:10 PM
Quote from: Menzel Washington on October 03, 2018, 01:23:01 PM
What would Adelaide give to Tigers for Stengle? Rookie draft player who has played 2 games in 2 years. Surely wouldn't have to give much??
Supremely talented and has great goal nous but is a tad slow, his main issue is/was being stuck behind Rioli/Butler/Castagna/Bolton/Higgins/Baker. Absolutely killed the VFL as one of our best regularly just unfortunately had no opportunity in the seniors.

A late draft pick will likely do it, but he's a very good chance to be Eddie's successor at the Crows I'd have thought, certainly has the ability.

I think their list manager specifically said he would be a good replacement for Betts in the future
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: LaHug on October 03, 2018, 02:24:40 PM
If I'm Richmond, I'd hard-balling Adelaide because they've come out and said they'll hard-ball other clubs. But maybe that's because I'm a vindictive asshole.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: elephants on October 03, 2018, 02:44:40 PM
Quote from: LaHug on October 03, 2018, 02:24:40 PM
If I'm Richmond, I'd hard-balling Adelaide because they've come out and said they'll hard-ball other clubs. But maybe that's because I'm a vindictive asshole.

Nah its because you're Victorian
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: TomK on October 03, 2018, 02:58:36 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 03, 2018, 11:52:14 AM
Adelaide has laughed off suggestions Brad Crouch would be traded
And to add on to this, glad this is the end of this rubbish

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/10/03/tigers-called-crouch's-manager-out-of-courtesy/

Brad Crouch’s manager has revealed Richmond enquired about the Adelaide midfielder “out of courtesy”.

Crouch was linked to the Tigers, which forced the conversation to occur, but the speculation was quickly watered down.

“They (Richmond) called out of courtesy because his name (Crouch) was linked with them…they didn’t initiate any conversation,” Alex McDonald told SEN Breakfast.

“He is contracted for another couple years. I’ve been in contact with the club (Adelaide), everyone is fine there.

“I think what happens at this time of year as we all know is they are players who have been starved of opportunity, been injured, or there’s a go-home factor.

“Sometimes there is a nice fit, players names pop up from time to time and they get spoken about.

“To the best of my knowledge, Brad is not going anywhere.

“He is really happy over there, lives with his brother, really excited about next year.”
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: enzedder on October 03, 2018, 03:02:00 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 03, 2018, 02:44:40 PM
Quote from: LaHug on October 03, 2018, 02:24:40 PM
If I'm Richmond, I'd hard-balling Adelaide because they've come out and said they'll hard-ball other clubs. But maybe that's because I'm a vindictive asshole.

Nah its because you're Victorian
= top notch bloke
1st rounder Adelaide
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: TomK on October 03, 2018, 03:09:37 PM
Pick 69niceshould get the Stengle deal done I reckon
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SilverLion on October 03, 2018, 03:18:02 PM
"BREAKING | It has been reported that Lachie Neale has officially informed Fremantle that he wishes to be traded to the Brisbane Lions.

Breaking news for AEG Powertools - The Mark of a Tradesman"

https://www.twitter.com/user/status/1047267732993978368

Seems every day the rumours are getting stronger. All but confirmed he'll be off to the Lions.

My guess is that he is waiting until the B&F on saturday night to announce it officially.

Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 03, 2018, 05:03:40 PM
 Sam Wright has signed a 1yr contract extension with the Kangaroos
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 03, 2018, 05:56:00 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 03, 2018, 05:03:40 PM
Sam Wright has signed a 1yr contract extension with the Kangaroos

As has Shai Bolton with the Tiges

Menadue and Moore set to sign 1 year extensions too
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Rusty00 on October 03, 2018, 06:08:14 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 03, 2018, 03:18:02 PM
"BREAKING | It has been reported that Lachie Neale has officially informed Fremantle that he wishes to be traded to the Brisbane Lions.

Breaking news for AEG Powertools - The Mark of a Tradesman"

https://www.twitter.com/user/status/1047267732993978368

Seems every day the rumours are getting stronger. All but confirmed he'll be off to the Lions.

My guess is that he is waiting until the B&F on saturday night to announce it officially.

As part of his Doig Medal acceptance speech :-X
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 03, 2018, 06:13:29 PM
HS reporting that Shane Mumford may consider coming out of retirement to help GWS out if they lose Lobb
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: jvalles69 on October 03, 2018, 06:40:55 PM
When's the thread, "Freo sign Conca" going to be created?  Asking for a friend who's patiently waiting.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 03, 2018, 07:13:29 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 03, 2018, 06:40:55 PM
When's the thread, "Freo sign Conca" going to be created?  Asking for a friend who's patiently waiting.

I'm sure Valk will do it soon  ;D
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: nrich102 on October 03, 2018, 10:55:24 PM
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/sydney-swans-chairman-andrew-pridham-blasts-disgraceful-afl-decision-as-tom-lynch-move-opens-up-old-wounds/news-story/eaa2440d25207235b9009a8727dc4797 (https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/sydney-swans-chairman-andrew-pridham-blasts-disgraceful-afl-decision-as-tom-lynch-move-opens-up-old-wounds/news-story/eaa2440d25207235b9009a8727dc4797)

Leave this one here for our Richmond fans. The man has a point and for the AFL to be consistent they’d probably have to follow this path.



Not that consistency has ever mattered to the AFL
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: LaHug on October 04, 2018, 08:05:13 AM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 03, 2018, 10:55:24 PM
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/sydney-swans-chairman-andrew-pridham-blasts-disgraceful-afl-decision-as-tom-lynch-move-opens-up-old-wounds/news-story/eaa2440d25207235b9009a8727dc4797 (https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/sydney-swans-chairman-andrew-pridham-blasts-disgraceful-afl-decision-as-tom-lynch-move-opens-up-old-wounds/news-story/eaa2440d25207235b9009a8727dc4797)

Leave this one here for our Richmond fans. The man has a point and for the AFL to be consistent they’d probably have to follow this path.



Not that consistency has ever mattered to the AFL

Surely nobody wants the AFL to ban anyone for getting a free agent though? They made a huge error banning the Swans and they only did so because they were annoyed that Buddy didn't go to GWS in the same way GAJ went to GC.

I also don't think Pridham was being serious when he suggested a Richmond trading ban.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ringo on October 04, 2018, 09:19:44 AM
Gee the Melbourne Media do not give up do they:

From Tony Shehan

(https://i.gyazo.com/27effc1d21cc0ca3efaf4f966efba9c2.png)

What more has Beams got to do to put this to bed,
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 04, 2018, 09:43:31 AM
Quote from: LaHug on October 04, 2018, 08:05:13 AM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 03, 2018, 10:55:24 PM
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/sydney-swans-chairman-andrew-pridham-blasts-disgraceful-afl-decision-as-tom-lynch-move-opens-up-old-wounds/news-story/eaa2440d25207235b9009a8727dc4797 (https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/sydney-swans-chairman-andrew-pridham-blasts-disgraceful-afl-decision-as-tom-lynch-move-opens-up-old-wounds/news-story/eaa2440d25207235b9009a8727dc4797)

Leave this one here for our Richmond fans. The man has a point and for the AFL to be consistent they’d probably have to follow this path.



Not that consistency has ever mattered to the AFL

Surely nobody wants the AFL to ban anyone for getting a free agent though? They made a huge error banning the Swans and they only did so because they were annoyed that Buddy didn't go to GWS in the same way GAJ went to GC.

I also don't think Pridham was being serious when he suggested a Richmond trading ban.
If the Tiges are receiving a COLA allowance I would say ban away but sure that they are not and it certainly looked like the Swans were able to grab Buddy because of there inflated salary cap and it was all done in such a sneaky way , but it all seems a bit like sour grapes maybe because a player the coach was reluctant to give games they let go just won the Brownlow  :D
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SilverLion on October 04, 2018, 10:21:02 AM
Quote from: Ringo on October 04, 2018, 09:19:44 AM
Gee the Melbourne Media do not give up do they:

From Tony Shehan

(https://i.gyazo.com/27effc1d21cc0ca3efaf4f966efba9c2.png)

What more has Beams got to do to put this to bed,
Heh. Almost as bad as the yearly Stef rumours.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 04, 2018, 10:27:43 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 04, 2018, 10:21:02 AM
Quote from: Ringo on October 04, 2018, 09:19:44 AM
Gee the Melbourne Media do not give up do they:

From Tony Shehan

(https://i.gyazo.com/27effc1d21cc0ca3efaf4f966efba9c2.png)

What more has Beams got to do to put this to bed,
Heh. Almost as bad as the yearly Stef rumours.
and Jack Steven to Geelong  ::)
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: GoLions on October 04, 2018, 12:36:22 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 04, 2018, 10:27:43 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 04, 2018, 10:21:02 AM
Quote from: Ringo on October 04, 2018, 09:19:44 AM
Gee the Melbourne Media do not give up do they:

From Tony Shehan

(https://i.gyazo.com/27effc1d21cc0ca3efaf4f966efba9c2.png)

What more has Beams got to do to put this to bed,
Heh. Almost as bad as the yearly Stef rumours.
and Jack Steven to Geelong  ::)
Stevens*
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 04, 2018, 12:42:16 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 04, 2018, 12:36:22 PM
Stevens*
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Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 04, 2018, 01:23:52 PM
http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2018-10-04/melbourne-makes-further-list-change

Dees have delisted Dion Johnstone, making their updated list

Retired: Harley Balic, Bernie Vince
Delisted: Tomas Bugg, Lochie Filopovic (rookie), Dion Johnstone, Mitch King, Pat McKenna, Cam Pedersen
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Big Mac on October 04, 2018, 02:51:10 PM
That’s a ton of changes for a side that just made the prelim, add Kent, Vandenberg and Hogan and that’s a quarter of the list
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 04, 2018, 03:58:17 PM
North Melbourne have delisted Declan Mountford.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 04, 2018, 05:54:19 PM
Tim Gossage reporting that Hogan took a tour of Freo today
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 04, 2018, 05:57:49 PM
Craig Cameron from the Suns is confident on getting a trade done where Kade Kolodjashnij goes to Melb
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 04, 2018, 06:22:00 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 04, 2018, 05:54:19 PM
Tim Gossage reporting that Hogan took a tour of Freo today

Lycett toured and had a medical at Port today too  :'(
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 04, 2018, 07:42:25 PM
In a bizarre situation the North Melbourne Football Club have uploaded an interview of Aaron Hall at the club before the trade period even begins.

Here is the video for anyone wanting to check it out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuYNqznJXLo
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: jvalles69 on October 04, 2018, 08:48:07 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 04, 2018, 06:22:00 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 04, 2018, 05:54:19 PM
Tim Gossage reporting that Hogan took a tour of Freo today

Lycett toured and had a medical at Port today too  :'(

Apparently afterwards he told someone it's still a really tough decision after winning a premiership...1% chance he stays? :-\
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: elephants on October 04, 2018, 09:34:18 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 04, 2018, 08:48:07 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 04, 2018, 06:22:00 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 04, 2018, 05:54:19 PM
Tim Gossage reporting that Hogan took a tour of Freo today

Lycett toured and had a medical at Port today too  :'(

Apparently afterwards he told someone it's still a really tough decision after winning a premiership...1% chance he stays? :-\

Standard line to roll out to the media. Hes gone and I have no ill feeling toward him.

Going home on a longer, more lucrative deal than he was getting at WCE? Fair play

Goes out on a good note, played very well all finals against the two AA rucks!
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: PowerBug on October 04, 2018, 09:45:20 PM
Hopefully gives us the inside word on how to beat you guys... :'(
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: enzedder on October 05, 2018, 06:16:37 AM
Copied this from a post on Saintsational... re: Saints presentation to Shiel
It's a load of BS but made me laugh.

Apparently at the presentation Lethlean offered Shiel a drink, "tea, water, anything you want Dylan, we've got it!"

Anyway Dylan asked for a coke, but they didn't have any and all the staff had gone off on break, so Lethlean ducks off to 7-11 to grab some but got lost and couldn't find his way back to Moorabbin for ages (left his phone in the meeting room).

Anyway they left Shiel with this intern who got all starstruck and awkwardly asked Dylan to sign his Saints membership 2017 hat. It was a really awkward moment but Dylan obliged, but then the intern says he'll get the papers for him to sign then as well, it was meant to be a joke but it bombed.

So by the time Lethlean got back Dylan had left! Rooey arrives just at that moment having been given the wrong starting time for the meeting!

Absolute shambles.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2018, 09:54:29 AM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 04, 2018, 09:45:20 PM
Hopefully gives us the inside word on how to beat you guys... :'(

In the last 2 minutes have 9 players tagging Shuey and the other 9 tagging Gov
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 05, 2018, 09:58:11 AM
Tim Kelly has officially requested a trade to eagles
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 05, 2018, 10:08:58 AM
Jake Niall reporting that Tom Lynch's Richmond contract will be 7 years at 900k a yr.

https://amp.theage.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-s-massive-seven-year-deal-for-tom-lynch-20181005-p507w8.html?__twitter_impression=true
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2018, 10:09:07 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 05, 2018, 09:58:11 AM
Tim Kelly has officially requested a trade to eagles

Boom!
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: jvalles69 on October 05, 2018, 10:09:46 AM
Inside info, colleague at work's kid's teacher is Gaff's girlfriend, another kid asked her if she would be around next year and she said no she was moving east.  :'(
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 05, 2018, 10:13:48 AM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 05, 2018, 10:09:46 AM
Inside info, colleague at work's kid's teacher is Gaff's girlfriend, another kid asked her if she would be around next year and she said no she was moving east.  :'(
At least Kelly softens that blow mate. Gaff is a gun but if Kelly continues on from this year you've got a more damaging mid
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: jvalles69 on October 05, 2018, 10:35:29 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 05, 2018, 10:13:48 AM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 05, 2018, 10:09:46 AM
Inside info, colleague at work's kid's teacher is Gaff's girlfriend, another kid asked her if she would be around next year and she said no she was moving east.  :'(
At least Kelly softens that blow mate. Gaff is a gun but if Kelly continues on from this year you've got a more damaging mid

Definitely, and I knew he was gone weeks ago deep down.  All the best too him, if North pull of there signings they could be pretty dangerous next year.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ringo on October 05, 2018, 10:37:58 AM
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/10/04/swans-footy-boss-confirms-talks-with-trio-of-trade-targets/

Swans looking at Vandenberg, Duryea and Ryan Clarke
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 05, 2018, 10:40:05 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 05, 2018, 10:08:58 AM
Jake Niall reporting that Tom Lynch's Richmond contract will be 7 years at 900k a yr.

https://amp.theage.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-s-massive-seven-year-deal-for-tom-lynch-20181005-p507w8.html?__twitter_impression=true
I'd be rapt if we were only paying him that much  :)
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2018, 10:46:49 AM
We won a flag without Gaff, so Kelly as his replacement is fine by me

I understand Gaff wanting to move home with his Dad not well etc so no hard feelings on my end

Kelly certainly makes it a lot easier
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 05, 2018, 11:05:49 AM
http://www.fremantlefc.com.au/news/2018-10-05/conca-becomes-a-docker

Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ringo on October 05, 2018, 11:20:59 AM
Quote from: shaker on October 05, 2018, 10:40:05 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 05, 2018, 10:08:58 AM
Jake Niall reporting that Tom Lynch's Richmond contract will be 7 years at 900k a yr.

https://amp.theage.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-s-massive-seven-year-deal-for-tom-lynch-20181005-p507w8.html?__twitter_impression=true
I'd be rapt if we were only paying him that much  :)
Suspect it is also heavily back ended given the term and the money used to recontract Rance and Riewoldt.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: elephants on October 05, 2018, 11:48:51 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2018, 10:46:49 AM
We won a flag without Gaff, so Kelly as his replacement is fine by me

I understand Gaff wanting to move home with his Dad not well etc so no hard feelings on my end

Kelly certainly makes it a lot easier

Yeah love this, agree mate.

Wonder what it would take to get the deal done?
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: jvalles69 on October 05, 2018, 11:51:31 AM
Quote from: elephants on October 05, 2018, 11:48:51 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2018, 10:46:49 AM
We won a flag without Gaff, so Kelly as his replacement is fine by me

I understand Gaff wanting to move home with his Dad not well etc so no hard feelings on my end

Kelly certainly makes it a lot easier

Yeah love this, agree mate.

Wonder what it would take to get the deal done?

Wouldn't we get pick 19 in return for Gaff then use that to get Kelly?  From our point of view essentially it is trading Gaff for Kelly which makes me sick, but it has to be done, while I'm hearing Cats supporters say they should be getting much more in return than just pick 19.  What a crock, after raping us for Scooter.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2018, 12:19:26 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 05, 2018, 11:51:31 AM
Quote from: elephants on October 05, 2018, 11:48:51 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2018, 10:46:49 AM
We won a flag without Gaff, so Kelly as his replacement is fine by me

I understand Gaff wanting to move home with his Dad not well etc so no hard feelings on my end

Kelly certainly makes it a lot easier

Yeah love this, agree mate.

Wonder what it would take to get the deal done?

Wouldn't we get pick 19 in return for Gaff then use that to get Kelly?  From our point of view essentially it is trading Gaff for Kelly which makes me sick, but it has to be done, while I'm hearing Cats supporters say they should be getting much more in return than just pick 19.  What a crock, after raping us for Scooter.

Yeah we should get 2 second rounders - 1 for Gaff and 1 for Lycett, so we'll just flick one of them to Geelong you'd think
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 05, 2018, 12:21:23 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2018, 12:19:26 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 05, 2018, 11:51:31 AM
Quote from: elephants on October 05, 2018, 11:48:51 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2018, 10:46:49 AM
We won a flag without Gaff, so Kelly as his replacement is fine by me

I understand Gaff wanting to move home with his Dad not well etc so no hard feelings on my end

Kelly certainly makes it a lot easier

Yeah love this, agree mate.

Wonder what it would take to get the deal done?

Wouldn't we get pick 19 in return for Gaff then use that to get Kelly?  From our point of view essentially it is trading Gaff for Kelly which makes me sick, but it has to be done, while I'm hearing Cats supporters say they should be getting much more in return than just pick 19.  What a crock, after raping us for Scooter.

Yeah we should get 2 second rounders - 1 for Gaff and 1 for Lycett, so we'll just flick one of them to Geelong you'd think
Reckon Geelong will be demanding a bit more than a pick around 20. He's probably worth 12ish
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: jvalles69 on October 05, 2018, 12:31:27 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 05, 2018, 12:21:23 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2018, 12:19:26 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 05, 2018, 11:51:31 AM
Quote from: elephants on October 05, 2018, 11:48:51 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2018, 10:46:49 AM
We won a flag without Gaff, so Kelly as his replacement is fine by me

I understand Gaff wanting to move home with his Dad not well etc so no hard feelings on my end

Kelly certainly makes it a lot easier

Yeah love this, agree mate.

Wonder what it would take to get the deal done?

Wouldn't we get pick 19 in return for Gaff then use that to get Kelly?  From our point of view essentially it is trading Gaff for Kelly which makes me sick, but it has to be done, while I'm hearing Cats supporters say they should be getting much more in return than just pick 19.  What a crock, after raping us for Scooter.

Yeah we should get 2 second rounders - 1 for Gaff and 1 for Lycett, so we'll just flick one of them to Geelong you'd think
Reckon Geelong will be demanding a bit more than a pick around 20. He's probably worth 12ish

These pricks can't have everything, they got Scooter, Danger and Ablett cheap, prob will get Dahlhaus cheap too.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 05, 2018, 12:36:08 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 05, 2018, 12:31:27 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 05, 2018, 12:21:23 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2018, 12:19:26 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 05, 2018, 11:51:31 AM
Quote from: elephants on October 05, 2018, 11:48:51 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2018, 10:46:49 AM
We won a flag without Gaff, so Kelly as his replacement is fine by me

I understand Gaff wanting to move home with his Dad not well etc so no hard feelings on my end

Kelly certainly makes it a lot easier

Yeah love this, agree mate.

Wonder what it would take to get the deal done?

Wouldn't we get pick 19 in return for Gaff then use that to get Kelly?  From our point of view essentially it is trading Gaff for Kelly which makes me sick, but it has to be done, while I'm hearing Cats supporters say they should be getting much more in return than just pick 19.  What a crock, after raping us for Scooter.

Yeah we should get 2 second rounders - 1 for Gaff and 1 for Lycett, so we'll just flick one of them to Geelong you'd think
Reckon Geelong will be demanding a bit more than a pick around 20. He's probably worth 12ish

These pricks can't have everything, they got Scooter, Danger and Ablett cheap, prob will get Dahlhaus cheap too.
Wasn't Scooter through FA? and Dahl will be too
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: jvalles69 on October 05, 2018, 12:54:07 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 05, 2018, 12:36:08 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 05, 2018, 12:31:27 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 05, 2018, 12:21:23 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2018, 12:19:26 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 05, 2018, 11:51:31 AM
Quote from: elephants on October 05, 2018, 11:48:51 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2018, 10:46:49 AM
We won a flag without Gaff, so Kelly as his replacement is fine by me

I understand Gaff wanting to move home with his Dad not well etc so no hard feelings on my end

Kelly certainly makes it a lot easier

Yeah love this, agree mate.

Wonder what it would take to get the deal done?

Wouldn't we get pick 19 in return for Gaff then use that to get Kelly?  From our point of view essentially it is trading Gaff for Kelly which makes me sick, but it has to be done, while I'm hearing Cats supporters say they should be getting much more in return than just pick 19.  What a crock, after raping us for Scooter.

Yeah we should get 2 second rounders - 1 for Gaff and 1 for Lycett, so we'll just flick one of them to Geelong you'd think
Reckon Geelong will be demanding a bit more than a pick around 20. He's probably worth 12ish

These pricks can't have everything, they got Scooter, Danger and Ablett cheap, prob will get Dahlhaus cheap too.
Wasn't Scooter through FA? and Dahl will be too

We could've matched the offer, but did the right thing by Scooter and Geelong as he wanted to go home.  Do the right thing by Kelly ya barbies!
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 05, 2018, 12:57:09 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 05, 2018, 12:54:07 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 05, 2018, 12:36:08 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 05, 2018, 12:31:27 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 05, 2018, 12:21:23 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2018, 12:19:26 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 05, 2018, 11:51:31 AM
Quote from: elephants on October 05, 2018, 11:48:51 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2018, 10:46:49 AM
We won a flag without Gaff, so Kelly as his replacement is fine by me

I understand Gaff wanting to move home with his Dad not well etc so no hard feelings on my end

Kelly certainly makes it a lot easier

Yeah love this, agree mate.

Wonder what it would take to get the deal done?

Wouldn't we get pick 19 in return for Gaff then use that to get Kelly?  From our point of view essentially it is trading Gaff for Kelly which makes me sick, but it has to be done, while I'm hearing Cats supporters say they should be getting much more in return than just pick 19.  What a crock, after raping us for Scooter.

Yeah we should get 2 second rounders - 1 for Gaff and 1 for Lycett, so we'll just flick one of them to Geelong you'd think
Reckon Geelong will be demanding a bit more than a pick around 20. He's probably worth 12ish

These pricks can't have everything, they got Scooter, Danger and Ablett cheap, prob will get Dahlhaus cheap too.
Wasn't Scooter through FA? and Dahl will be too

We could've matched the offer, but did the right thing by Scooter and Geelong as he wanted to go home.  Do the right thing by Kelly ya barbies!
Ha fair enough.

Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 05, 2018, 12:58:06 PM
Cats have lodged paperwork to sign Bulldog Luke Dahlhaus as an Unrestricted Free Agent.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2018, 01:02:40 PM
Gaff and Lycett picks will both be in the 20-25 range

1 of them will get it done, even if it's not enough they'll take it I'm sure
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: TomK on October 05, 2018, 01:12:33 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2018, 01:02:40 PM
Gaff and Lycett picks will both be in the 20-25 range

1 of them will get it done, even if it's not enough they'll take it I'm sure
He's contracted, no way Geelong accept unders just to 'do right by him' lol
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2018, 01:14:54 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 05, 2018, 01:12:33 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2018, 01:02:40 PM
Gaff and Lycett picks will both be in the 20-25 range

1 of them will get it done, even if it's not enough they'll take it I'm sure
He's contracted, no way Geelong accept unders just to 'do right by him' lol

And when has a contract mattered?

Every player that has ever said they want to go home, goes home, and it gets done

Maybe we throw them next years 2nd or something too
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: GoLions on October 05, 2018, 01:20:00 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2018, 01:14:54 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 05, 2018, 01:12:33 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2018, 01:02:40 PM
Gaff and Lycett picks will both be in the 20-25 range

1 of them will get it done, even if it's not enough they'll take it I'm sure
He's contracted, no way Geelong accept unders just to 'do right by him' lol

And when has a contract mattered?

Every player that has ever said they want to go home, goes home, and it gets done

Maybe we throw them next years 2nd or something too
Contract still matters in terms of the player's value, quite a few times teams have had to pay overs for a player to get them straight away instead of waiting for the contract to end, regardless of whether the player wants to leave or not
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: TomK on October 05, 2018, 01:23:26 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2018, 01:14:54 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 05, 2018, 01:12:33 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2018, 01:02:40 PM
Gaff and Lycett picks will both be in the 20-25 range

1 of them will get it done, even if it's not enough they'll take it I'm sure
He's contracted, no way Geelong accept unders just to 'do right by him' lol

And when has a contract mattered?

Every player that has ever said they want to go home, goes home, and it gets done

Maybe we throw them next years 2nd or something too
Ryan O'Keefe, Bryce Gibbs, Cameron McCarthy?

They don't matter when allowing players to ask for trades but they matter in that player's worth, if Geelong feel they aren't being offered good enough compensation, why would they do the trade when Kelly is contracted at Geelong for another year?
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 05, 2018, 01:33:14 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 05, 2018, 01:23:26 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2018, 01:14:54 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 05, 2018, 01:12:33 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2018, 01:02:40 PM
Gaff and Lycett picks will both be in the 20-25 range

1 of them will get it done, even if it's not enough they'll take it I'm sure
He's contracted, no way Geelong accept unders just to 'do right by him' lol

And when has a contract mattered?

Every player that has ever said they want to go home, goes home, and it gets done

Maybe we throw them next years 2nd or something too
Ryan O'Keefe, Bryce Gibbs, Cameron McCarthy?

They don't matter when allowing players to ask for trades but they matter in that player's worth, if Geelong feel they aren't being offered good enough compensation, why would they do the trade when Kelly is contracted at Geelong for another year?
Yep he has requested a trade back home but for all we know he may be happy to finish his contract next year with the Cats if they don't get what they consider adequate compensation , you'll have to coff up overs for him unless the Cats are feeling generous  ;)
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2018, 02:30:23 PM
Fair play lads

Guess we just wait and see what happens
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: jvalles69 on October 05, 2018, 03:59:03 PM
System is shower, but that's not the annoying thing, it's the hypocritical Cats fans pissing me off...when it was Danger and Ablett who wanted to go home for family reasons, it was fine, Suns and Crows should just let them go...now Kelly saying the same thing and Cats fans are saying no, he's under contract we won't allow it, was 2nd in our B&F so we want overs...they forget Ablett was Suns B&F too, but didn't give 2 showers there.  It is what it is, if we pay overs we pay overs or we just wait till next season.

We will get back the equivalent for Gaff as what Geelong got for Motlop.  Think about that for a sec...
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: GoLions on October 05, 2018, 04:02:01 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 05, 2018, 03:59:03 PM
System is shower, but that's not the annoying thing, it's the hypocritical Cats fans pissing me off...when it was Danger and Ablett who wanted to go home for family reasons, it was fine, Suns and Crows should just let them go...now Kelly saying the same thing and Cats fans are saying no, he's under contract we won't allow it, was 2nd in our B&F so we want overs...they forget Ablett was Suns B&F too, but didn't give 2 showers there.  It is what it is, if we pay overs we pay overs or we just wait till next season.

We will get back the equivalent for Gaff as what Geelong got for Motlop.  Think about that for a sec...
You get the equivalent Hawks got for Buddy. Buddy > Gaff. If anything you're lucky tbqh.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 05, 2018, 04:11:53 PM
It's very true sometimes it isn't fair what clubs get for there players especially when they turn free agents just read in the AFL site where Freo says pick 4 won't get the Neale trade done and fair enough he is in the super gun class and he is contracted so minimum 2 top 10 picks this year or pick 4 plus Lions 2nd round this year plus another future 2nd round seems about fair for a quality player like Neale.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: AaronKirk on October 05, 2018, 04:16:52 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 05, 2018, 04:11:53 PM
It's very true sometimes it isn't fair what clubs get for there players especially when they turn free agents just read in the AFL site where Freo says pick 4 won't get the Neale trade done and fair enough he is in the super gun class and he is contracted so minimum 2 top 10 picks this year or pick 4 plus Lions 2nd round this year plus another future 2nd round seems about fair for a quality player like Neale.

Unless Freo take that Brisbane deal for Neale they cannot get Hogan.

Will take 2 first round picks to get Hogan given what they paid for Lever last year. Hogan worth more than Lever.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 05, 2018, 04:26:30 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 05, 2018, 04:16:52 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 05, 2018, 04:11:53 PM
It's very true sometimes it isn't fair what clubs get for there players especially when they turn free agents just read in the AFL site where Freo says pick 4 won't get the Neale trade done and fair enough he is in the super gun class and he is contracted so minimum 2 top 10 picks this year or pick 4 plus Lions 2nd round this year plus another future 2nd round seems about fair for a quality player like Neale.

Unless Freo take that Brisbane deal for Neale they cannot get Hogan.

Will take 2 first round picks to get Hogan given what they paid for Lever last year. Hogan worth more than Lever.
That's true but Neale is worth way more than just pick 4 Lions have lift there offer or all these trades could fall over
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: jvalles69 on October 05, 2018, 04:28:50 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 05, 2018, 04:02:01 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 05, 2018, 03:59:03 PM
System is shower, but that's not the annoying thing, it's the hypocritical Cats fans pissing me off...when it was Danger and Ablett who wanted to go home for family reasons, it was fine, Suns and Crows should just let them go...now Kelly saying the same thing and Cats fans are saying no, he's under contract we won't allow it, was 2nd in our B&F so we want overs...they forget Ablett was Suns B&F too, but didn't give 2 showers there.  It is what it is, if we pay overs we pay overs or we just wait till next season.

We will get back the equivalent for Gaff as what Geelong got for Motlop.  Think about that for a sec...
You get the equivalent Hawks got for Buddy. Buddy > Gaff. If anything you're lucky tbqh.

I don't think we're lucky, I think Hawks got screwed too.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 05, 2018, 04:29:21 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 05, 2018, 04:16:52 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 05, 2018, 04:11:53 PM
It's very true sometimes it isn't fair what clubs get for there players especially when they turn free agents just read in the AFL site where Freo says pick 4 won't get the Neale trade done and fair enough he is in the super gun class and he is contracted so minimum 2 top 10 picks this year or pick 4 plus Lions 2nd round this year plus another future 2nd round seems about fair for a quality player like Neale.

Unless Freo take that Brisbane deal for Neale they cannot get Hogan.

Will take 2 first round picks to get Hogan given what they paid for Lever last year. Hogan worth more than Lever.
This years first and a future pick?
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: GoLions on October 05, 2018, 04:30:11 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 05, 2018, 04:26:30 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 05, 2018, 04:16:52 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 05, 2018, 04:11:53 PM
It's very true sometimes it isn't fair what clubs get for there players especially when they turn free agents just read in the AFL site where Freo says pick 4 won't get the Neale trade done and fair enough he is in the super gun class and he is contracted so minimum 2 top 10 picks this year or pick 4 plus Lions 2nd round this year plus another future 2nd round seems about fair for a quality player like Neale.

Unless Freo take that Brisbane deal for Neale they cannot get Hogan.

Will take 2 first round picks to get Hogan given what they paid for Lever last year. Hogan worth more than Lever.
That's true but Neale is worth way more than just pick 4 Lions have lift there offer or all these trades could fall over
We haven't even made an offer yet afaik. All we've said is that pick 4 is on the table.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 05, 2018, 04:34:50 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 05, 2018, 04:30:11 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 05, 2018, 04:26:30 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 05, 2018, 04:16:52 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 05, 2018, 04:11:53 PM
It's very true sometimes it isn't fair what clubs get for there players especially when they turn free agents just read in the AFL site where Freo says pick 4 won't get the Neale trade done and fair enough he is in the super gun class and he is contracted so minimum 2 top 10 picks this year or pick 4 plus Lions 2nd round this year plus another future 2nd round seems about fair for a quality player like Neale.

Unless Freo take that Brisbane deal for Neale they cannot get Hogan.

Will take 2 first round picks to get Hogan given what they paid for Lever last year. Hogan worth more than Lever.
That's true but Neale is worth way more than just pick 4 Lions have lift there offer or all these trades could fall over
We haven't even made an offer yet afaik. All we've said is that pick 4 is on the table.
As you posted earlier gotta pay overs for contracted players  ;)
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: GoLions on October 05, 2018, 04:37:19 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 05, 2018, 04:34:50 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 05, 2018, 04:30:11 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 05, 2018, 04:26:30 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 05, 2018, 04:16:52 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 05, 2018, 04:11:53 PM
It's very true sometimes it isn't fair what clubs get for there players especially when they turn free agents just read in the AFL site where Freo says pick 4 won't get the Neale trade done and fair enough he is in the super gun class and he is contracted so minimum 2 top 10 picks this year or pick 4 plus Lions 2nd round this year plus another future 2nd round seems about fair for a quality player like Neale.

Unless Freo take that Brisbane deal for Neale they cannot get Hogan.

Will take 2 first round picks to get Hogan given what they paid for Lever last year. Hogan worth more than Lever.
That's true but Neale is worth way more than just pick 4 Lions have lift there offer or all these trades could fall over
We haven't even made an offer yet afaik. All we've said is that pick 4 is on the table.
As you posted earlier gotta pay overs for contracted players  ;)
Correct. Will be something like pick 4 + next years 2nd rounder.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 05, 2018, 04:41:10 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 05, 2018, 04:37:19 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 05, 2018, 04:34:50 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 05, 2018, 04:30:11 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 05, 2018, 04:26:30 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 05, 2018, 04:16:52 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 05, 2018, 04:11:53 PM
It's very true sometimes it isn't fair what clubs get for there players especially when they turn free agents just read in the AFL site where Freo says pick 4 won't get the Neale trade done and fair enough he is in the super gun class and he is contracted so minimum 2 top 10 picks this year or pick 4 plus Lions 2nd round this year plus another future 2nd round seems about fair for a quality player like Neale.

Unless Freo take that Brisbane deal for Neale they cannot get Hogan.

Will take 2 first round picks to get Hogan given what they paid for Lever last year. Hogan worth more than Lever.
That's true but Neale is worth way more than just pick 4 Lions have lift there offer or all these trades could fall over
We haven't even made an offer yet afaik. All we've said is that pick 4 is on the table.
As you posted earlier gotta pay overs for contracted players  ;)
Correct. Will be something like pick 4 + next years 2nd rounder.
Ha ha that's still unders for quality player like Neale but I know you have your Lions hat on  ;D
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ringo on October 05, 2018, 04:46:24 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 05, 2018, 04:41:10 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 05, 2018, 04:37:19 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 05, 2018, 04:34:50 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 05, 2018, 04:30:11 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 05, 2018, 04:26:30 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 05, 2018, 04:16:52 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 05, 2018, 04:11:53 PM
It's very true sometimes it isn't fair what clubs get for there players especially when they turn free agents just read in the AFL site where Freo says pick 4 won't get the Neale trade done and fair enough he is in the super gun class and he is contracted so minimum 2 top 10 picks this year or pick 4 plus Lions 2nd round this year plus another future 2nd round seems about fair for a quality player like Neale.

Unless Freo take that Brisbane deal for Neale they cannot get Hogan.

Will take 2 first round picks to get Hogan given what they paid for Lever last year. Hogan worth more than Lever.
That's true but Neale is worth way more than just pick 4 Lions have lift there offer or all these trades could fall over
We haven't even made an offer yet afaik. All we've said is that pick 4 is on the table.
As you posted earlier gotta pay overs for contracted players  ;)
Correct. Will be something like pick 4 + next years 2nd rounder.
Ha ha that's still unders for quality player like Neale but I know you have your Lions hat on  ;D
Suspect this will get done as a three way trade with Melbourne with stake knives thrown in to balance.  Do not like it but there has been speculation that Cedric Cox could be added to 4.

Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ringo on October 05, 2018, 04:47:43 PM
A new one has any one got any info on Tim English possibly going to one of the WA Clubs. Heard a small whisper so do not know if it has legs or not.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SilverLion on October 05, 2018, 04:54:52 PM
Assuming GC get Pick 3 as compo for Lynch...

Freo give: Neale + Pick 6
Freo get: Hogan + Pick 11 + Bris Future 2nd

Port give: Polec + Pick 10
Port get: Pick 5

Melbourne give: Hogan
Melbourne get: Pick 6 + Pick 10

Brisbane give: Pick 5 + Future 2nd
Brisbane get: Neale

North give: Pick 11
North get: Polec

Melbourne then could go 6 or 10 + 34 for May if May wants to go there.

Might need something extra to go to Port to make it work, but this would be my ideal 5 way trade.

Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2018, 04:56:58 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-10-05/dockers-wont-accept-pick-no4-for-neale
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SilverLion on October 05, 2018, 05:00:28 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2018, 04:56:58 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-10-05/dockers-wont-accept-pick-no4-for-neale
Rosich just using the Weller trade as an unfair precedent :P

But agree he's worth slightly more than 4.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 05, 2018, 05:04:23 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 05, 2018, 05:00:28 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2018, 04:56:58 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-10-05/dockers-wont-accept-pick-no4-for-neale
Rosich just using the Weller trade as an unfair precedent :P

But agree he's worth slightly more than 4.
If Hogan is worth 2 top ten picks this year Neale has to be as well he is an elite gun mid
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2018, 05:06:05 PM
“Tim Kelly has asked that the club explore the possibility of trading him to his home state, Western Australia,” Geelong said in a statement.

“As is well known, Tim is under contract to the Cats for the 2019 season, and it is highly likely he will remain with the club.

“However out of respect for Tim, we will listen to what Fremantle and West Coast are prepared to offer and determine whether or not we believe it is a viable trade for our club.”
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: GoLions on October 05, 2018, 05:06:29 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 05, 2018, 05:04:23 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 05, 2018, 05:00:28 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2018, 04:56:58 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-10-05/dockers-wont-accept-pick-no4-for-neale
Rosich just using the Weller trade as an unfair precedent :P

But agree he's worth slightly more than 4.
If Hogan is worth 2 top ten picks this year Neale has to be as well he is an elite gun mid
As I mentioned previously, Hogan > Neale. Would take him instead in a heartbeat if we could.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SilverLion on October 05, 2018, 05:09:20 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 05, 2018, 05:04:23 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 05, 2018, 05:00:28 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2018, 04:56:58 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-10-05/dockers-wont-accept-pick-no4-for-neale
Rosich just using the Weller trade as an unfair precedent :P

But agree he's worth slightly more than 4.
If Hogan is worth 2 top ten picks this year Neale has to be as well he is an elite gun mid
Not sure, I still don't think Lever was worth 2 first round picks, and would have McGovern worth an early 2nd, which I'm sure Adelaide supporters would scoff at.

Wouldn't surprise me if we were forced to give 2 first rounders though, but obviously would try not to.

Hogan definitely worth 2 first rounders, key forwards of that caliber are rare, and his best footy is still ahead of him.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: elephants on October 05, 2018, 05:17:55 PM
TK should just refuse to get on the plane back to Vic for the start of preseason. What can they do? Put him on the plane by force?

It's the perfect plan and I don't care what anyone says
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SilverLion on October 05, 2018, 05:19:31 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 05, 2018, 05:17:55 PM
TK should just refuse to get on the plane back to Vic for the start of preseason. What can they do? Put him on the plane by force?

It's the perfect plan and I don't care what anyone says
McCarthy did it
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 05, 2018, 05:24:56 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 05, 2018, 05:09:20 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 05, 2018, 05:04:23 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 05, 2018, 05:00:28 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2018, 04:56:58 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-10-05/dockers-wont-accept-pick-no4-for-neale
Rosich just using the Weller trade as an unfair precedent :P

But agree he's worth slightly more than 4.
If Hogan is worth 2 top ten picks this year Neale has to be as well he is an elite gun mid
Not sure, I still don't think Lever was worth 2 first round picks, and would have McGovern worth an early 2nd, which I'm sure Adelaide supporters would scoff at.

Wouldn't surprise me if we were forced to give 2 first rounders though, but obviously would try not to.

Hogan definitely worth 2 first rounders, key forwards of that caliber are rare, and his best footy is still ahead of him.
I can see this trade or trades going down to the last day before being resolved ;)
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: jvalles69 on October 05, 2018, 05:29:03 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 05, 2018, 05:19:31 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 05, 2018, 05:17:55 PM
TK should just refuse to get on the plane back to Vic for the start of preseason. What can they do? Put him on the plane by force?

It's the perfect plan and I don't care what anyone says
McCarthy did it

Kelly's already 27 and would have to sit out another year.  Would be career suicide for him.  If the deal can't get done, stay with the Cats, they gave you the chance no one else did.  Come over to us the following year.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ringo on October 05, 2018, 05:31:26 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 05, 2018, 05:24:56 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 05, 2018, 05:09:20 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 05, 2018, 05:04:23 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 05, 2018, 05:00:28 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2018, 04:56:58 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-10-05/dockers-wont-accept-pick-no4-for-neale
Rosich just using the Weller trade as an unfair precedent :P

But agree he's worth slightly more than 4.
If Hogan is worth 2 top ten picks this year Neale has to be as well he is an elite gun mid
Not sure, I still don't think Lever was worth 2 first round picks, and would have McGovern worth an early 2nd, which I'm sure Adelaide supporters would scoff at.

Wouldn't surprise me if we were forced to give 2 first rounders though, but obviously would try not to.

Hogan definitely worth 2 first rounders, key forwards of that caliber are rare, and his best footy is still ahead of him.
I can see this trade or trades going down to the last day before being resolved ;)
TBH if I was list manager I would say to freo pick 4 or nothing.  Draft a gun kid at 4 and get Neale for free next year.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 05, 2018, 05:34:13 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 05, 2018, 05:31:26 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 05, 2018, 05:24:56 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 05, 2018, 05:09:20 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 05, 2018, 05:04:23 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 05, 2018, 05:00:28 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2018, 04:56:58 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-10-05/dockers-wont-accept-pick-no4-for-neale
Rosich just using the Weller trade as an unfair precedent :P

But agree he's worth slightly more than 4.
If Hogan is worth 2 top ten picks this year Neale has to be as well he is an elite gun mid
Not sure, I still don't think Lever was worth 2 first round picks, and would have McGovern worth an early 2nd, which I'm sure Adelaide supporters would scoff at.

Wouldn't surprise me if we were forced to give 2 first rounders though, but obviously would try not to.

Hogan definitely worth 2 first rounders, key forwards of that caliber are rare, and his best footy is still ahead of him.
I can see this trade or trades going down to the last day before being resolved ;)
TBH if I was list manager I would say to freo pick 4 or nothing.  Draft a gun kid at 4 and get Neale for free next year.
RFA next year, we could always just match.
And if you're waiting a year you always run the risk of the club convincing him to stay.

Same goes with Hogan this year. We have to try and get him now imo. Who knows what happens in 12 months
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SilverLion on October 05, 2018, 05:35:11 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 05, 2018, 05:29:03 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 05, 2018, 05:19:31 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 05, 2018, 05:17:55 PM
TK should just refuse to get on the plane back to Vic for the start of preseason. What can they do? Put him on the plane by force?

It's the perfect plan and I don't care what anyone says
McCarthy did it

Kelly's already 27 and would have to sit out another year.  Would be career suicide for him.  If the deal can't get done, stay with the Cats, they gave you the chance no one else did.  Come over to us the following year.
He's 24 ;)
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: jvalles69 on October 05, 2018, 05:37:29 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 05, 2018, 05:35:11 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 05, 2018, 05:29:03 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 05, 2018, 05:19:31 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 05, 2018, 05:17:55 PM
TK should just refuse to get on the plane back to Vic for the start of preseason. What can they do? Put him on the plane by force?

It's the perfect plan and I don't care what anyone says
McCarthy did it

Kelly's already 27 and would have to sit out another year.  Would be career suicide for him.  If the deal can't get done, stay with the Cats, they gave you the chance no one else did.  Come over to us the following year.
He's 24 ;)

Ah balls, someone gave me false information!  :-[
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: TomK on October 05, 2018, 05:41:43 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 05, 2018, 05:09:20 PM
Not sure, I still don't think Lever was worth 2 first round picks, and would have McGovern worth an early 2nd, which I'm sure Adelaide supporters would scoff at.
You know us well :)
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SilverLion on October 05, 2018, 05:45:53 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 05, 2018, 05:41:43 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 05, 2018, 05:09:20 PM
Not sure, I still don't think Lever was worth 2 first round picks, and would have McGovern worth an early 2nd, which I'm sure Adelaide supporters would scoff at.
You know us well :)
;D
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: enzedder on October 05, 2018, 06:33:03 PM
2 things
Firstly Neale is worth more than #4. Nuff said.


Secondly this from saintsational with the poster saying it's From AFL News, Trade Rumours, Results

"EXCLUSIVE! BREAKING!
Andrew Gaff is set to announce the SAINTS as his preferred destination after the Saints withdraw their $1.4 million deal to Shiel and have decided to keep Pick 4 and draft Max King who has been rehabbing at Saint Kilda this year. Keeping pick 4 is in line with Trade Radio this morning - after the Saints were told by Gaff on Thursday he was joining them.
HUGE blow to the Roos and the St Kilda board have been clandestine about their approach to Gaffy and have pulled off a stunning coup.
This is set to be announced Sunday, after the Best and Fairest count (and subsequent celebrations) have finished.
This does not affect the Saints chances at Hannebury and St kilda are confident in adding both.
Max King, Gaff and Hanners... brilliant approach - well done St Kilda."

If it's true then I'll be wrapped but the proof will be in the pudding. Just another rumour atm.

Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: iZander on October 05, 2018, 06:45:54 PM
It seems brilliant for saints until there youngsters develope and leave before they hit their peak, 1.4 is too much to pay for someone!
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: fanTCfool on October 05, 2018, 07:55:45 PM
Quote from: enzedder on October 05, 2018, 06:33:03 PM
AFL News, Trade Rumours, Results

That page is a genuine laughing stock. The admin is so St. Kilda biased he had Jade Gresham in his All Australian 22. It has zero credibility, time after time making ridiculous claims seem to be false. You'd nail more trades with random guessing.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SydneyRox on October 05, 2018, 11:04:07 PM
Rumour from the whisperer Swans making a play for Macrae
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SilverLion on October 05, 2018, 11:27:51 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 05, 2018, 11:04:07 PM
Rumour from the whisperer Swans making a play for Macrae
Bloke is yet to have a 'whisper' that he reports before anyone that turns out to be true. Only ones he gets right are those copy+pasted from more reputable sources.

Guess we'll see though.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Money Shot on October 06, 2018, 10:30:45 AM
Quote from: enzedder on October 05, 2018, 06:33:03 PM
2 things
Firstly Neale is worth more than #4. Nuff said.


Secondly this from saintsational with the poster saying it's From AFL News, Trade Rumours, Results

"EXCLUSIVE! BREAKING!
Andrew Gaff is set to announce the SAINTS as his preferred destination after the Saints withdraw their $1.4 million deal to Shiel and have decided to keep Pick 4 and draft Max King who has been rehabbing at Saint Kilda this year. Keeping pick 4 is in line with Trade Radio this morning - after the Saints were told by Gaff on Thursday he was joining them.
HUGE blow to the Roos and the St Kilda board have been clandestine about their approach to Gaffy and have pulled off a stunning coup.
This is set to be announced Sunday, after the Best and Fairest count (and subsequent celebrations) have finished.
This does not affect the Saints chances at Hannebury and St kilda are confident in adding both.
Max King, Gaff and Hanners... brilliant approach - well done St Kilda."

If it's true then I'll be wrapped but the proof will be in the pudding. Just another rumour atm.
Makes sense for the saints but considering no one else has reported it I doubt it will happen.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Purple 77 on October 06, 2018, 01:24:33 PM
Oh damn, didn't realise this thread existed!

*posting for replies*
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 06, 2018, 01:51:23 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 06, 2018, 01:24:33 PM
Oh damn, didn't realise this thread existed!

*posting for replies*

seasoned coach title should be removed

jk
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: nas on October 06, 2018, 02:29:23 PM
S Lycett paperwork lodged.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-10-06/power-lodges-official-bid-for-eagles-flag-star
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ringo on October 06, 2018, 06:40:02 PM
https://www.watoday.com.au/national/western-australia/freo-midfielder-lachie-neale-committed-to-brisbane-trade-20181006-p5085t.html

Neale committed to Brisbane and maybe a 6 year contract worth $1m a year.r
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: elephants on October 06, 2018, 07:09:17 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 06, 2018, 06:40:02 PM
https://www.watoday.com.au/national/western-australia/freo-midfielder-lachie-neale-committed-to-brisbane-trade-20181006-p5085t.html

Neale committed to Brisbane and maybe a 6 year contract worth $1m a year.r

Wow no wonder he wants to head up there. Crazy money imo
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 06, 2018, 07:21:02 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 06, 2018, 07:09:17 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 06, 2018, 06:40:02 PM
https://www.watoday.com.au/national/western-australia/freo-midfielder-lachie-neale-committed-to-brisbane-trade-20181006-p5085t.html

Neale committed to Brisbane and maybe a 6 year contract worth $1m a year.r

Wow no wonder he wants to head up there. Crazy money imo
1m a year for elite mids is just the norm these days the money being reportedly thrown at Shiel is a bit silly a lesser player than Neale IMO
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SilverLion on October 06, 2018, 07:27:28 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 06, 2018, 07:21:02 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 06, 2018, 07:09:17 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 06, 2018, 06:40:02 PM
https://www.watoday.com.au/national/western-australia/freo-midfielder-lachie-neale-committed-to-brisbane-trade-20181006-p5085t.html

Neale committed to Brisbane and maybe a 6 year contract worth $1m a year.r

Wow no wonder he wants to head up there. Crazy money imo
1m a year for elite mids is just the the norm these days the money being reportedly thrown at Shiel is a bit silly a lesser player than Neale IMO
Agreed. Worth every cent.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: iZander on October 06, 2018, 07:28:51 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 06, 2018, 07:27:28 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 06, 2018, 07:21:02 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 06, 2018, 07:09:17 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 06, 2018, 06:40:02 PM
https://www.watoday.com.au/national/western-australia/freo-midfielder-lachie-neale-committed-to-brisbane-trade-20181006-p5085t.html

Neale committed to Brisbane and maybe a 6 year contract worth $1m a year.r

Wow no wonder he wants to head up there. Crazy money imo
1m a year for elite mids is just the the norm these days the money being reportedly thrown at Shiel is a bit silly a lesser player than Neale IMO
Agreed. Worth every cent.
Yep far from the worst guy on a mil, atleast this guy can play football and isnt just payed a mil cause he is tall
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: elephants on October 06, 2018, 08:02:27 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 06, 2018, 07:28:51 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 06, 2018, 07:27:28 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 06, 2018, 07:21:02 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 06, 2018, 07:09:17 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 06, 2018, 06:40:02 PM
https://www.watoday.com.au/national/western-australia/freo-midfielder-lachie-neale-committed-to-brisbane-trade-20181006-p5085t.html

Neale committed to Brisbane and maybe a 6 year contract worth $1m a year.r

Wow no wonder he wants to head up there. Crazy money imo
1m a year for elite mids is just the the norm these days the money being reportedly thrown at Shiel is a bit silly a lesser player than Neale IMO
Agreed. Worth every cent.
Yep far from the worst guy on a mil, atleast this guy can play football and isnt just payed a mil cause he is tall

Don't get me wrong, I rate Neale. But as far as I'm concerned small inside mids aren't the ones that should be on the big money. As an Eagles fan I do lean toward teams being built around key position talent though tbf haha
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: iZander on October 06, 2018, 08:05:09 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 06, 2018, 08:02:27 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 06, 2018, 07:28:51 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 06, 2018, 07:27:28 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 06, 2018, 07:21:02 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 06, 2018, 07:09:17 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 06, 2018, 06:40:02 PM
https://www.watoday.com.au/national/western-australia/freo-midfielder-lachie-neale-committed-to-brisbane-trade-20181006-p5085t.html

Neale committed to Brisbane and maybe a 6 year contract worth $1m a year.r

Wow no wonder he wants to head up there. Crazy money imo
1m a year for elite mids is just the the norm these days the money being reportedly thrown at Shiel is a bit silly a lesser player than Neale IMO
Agreed. Worth every cent.
Yep far from the worst guy on a mil, atleast this guy can play football and isnt just payed a mil cause he is tall

Don't get me wrong, I rate Neale. But as far as I'm concerned small inside mids aren't the ones that should be on the big money. As an Eagles fan I do lean toward teams being built around key position talent though tbf haha
haha key positions, particularly forwards are way overpayed :P Even the shower ones attract 600k easy...Bloody Tyrone Vickery got that when he was a proven spud. About time they payed players on their AFL impact not their position.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 06, 2018, 08:20:04 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 06, 2018, 08:05:09 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 06, 2018, 08:02:27 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 06, 2018, 07:28:51 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 06, 2018, 07:27:28 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 06, 2018, 07:21:02 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 06, 2018, 07:09:17 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 06, 2018, 06:40:02 PM
https://www.watoday.com.au/national/western-australia/freo-midfielder-lachie-neale-committed-to-brisbane-trade-20181006-p5085t.html

Neale committed to Brisbane and maybe a 6 year contract worth $1m a year.r

Wow no wonder he wants to head up there. Crazy money imo
1m a year for elite mids is just the the norm these days the money being reportedly thrown at Shiel is a bit silly a lesser player than Neale IMO
Agreed. Worth every cent.
Yep far from the worst guy on a mil, atleast this guy can play football and isnt just payed a mil cause he is tall

Don't get me wrong, I rate Neale. But as far as I'm concerned small inside mids aren't the ones that should be on the big money. As an Eagles fan I do lean toward teams being built around key position talent though tbf haha
haha key positions, particularly forwards are way overpayed :P Even the shower ones attract 600k easy...Bloody Tyrone Vickery got that when he was a proven spud. About time they payed players on their AFL impact not their position.
Agree gun mids get the job done week in week out KPF's play like shower every second game but still get payed the big bucks  ;)
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: elephants on October 06, 2018, 09:42:48 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 06, 2018, 08:20:04 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 06, 2018, 08:05:09 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 06, 2018, 08:02:27 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 06, 2018, 07:28:51 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 06, 2018, 07:27:28 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 06, 2018, 07:21:02 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 06, 2018, 07:09:17 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 06, 2018, 06:40:02 PM
https://www.watoday.com.au/national/western-australia/freo-midfielder-lachie-neale-committed-to-brisbane-trade-20181006-p5085t.html

Neale committed to Brisbane and maybe a 6 year contract worth $1m a year.r

Wow no wonder he wants to head up there. Crazy money imo
1m a year for elite mids is just the the norm these days the money being reportedly thrown at Shiel is a bit silly a lesser player than Neale IMO
Agreed. Worth every cent.
Yep far from the worst guy on a mil, atleast this guy can play football and isnt just payed a mil cause he is tall

Don't get me wrong, I rate Neale. But as far as I'm concerned small inside mids aren't the ones that should be on the big money. As an Eagles fan I do lean toward teams being built around key position talent though tbf haha
haha key positions, particularly forwards are way overpayed :P Even the shower ones attract 600k easy...Bloody Tyrone Vickery got that when he was a proven spud. About time they payed players on their AFL impact not their position.
Agree gun mids get the job done week in week out KPF's play like shower every second game but still get payed the big bucks  ;)

I agree that some are grossly overpaid, but good ones win you premierships ;) (Rance/Jroo) (Gov/JJK/Darling)
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: iZander on October 06, 2018, 09:52:09 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 06, 2018, 09:42:48 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 06, 2018, 08:20:04 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 06, 2018, 08:05:09 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 06, 2018, 08:02:27 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 06, 2018, 07:28:51 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 06, 2018, 07:27:28 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 06, 2018, 07:21:02 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 06, 2018, 07:09:17 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 06, 2018, 06:40:02 PM
https://www.watoday.com.au/national/western-australia/freo-midfielder-lachie-neale-committed-to-brisbane-trade-20181006-p5085t.html

Neale committed to Brisbane and maybe a 6 year contract worth $1m a year.r

Wow no wonder he wants to head up there. Crazy money imo
1m a year for elite mids is just the the norm these days the money being reportedly thrown at Shiel is a bit silly a lesser player than Neale IMO
Agreed. Worth every cent.
Yep far from the worst guy on a mil, atleast this guy can play football and isnt just payed a mil cause he is tall

Don't get me wrong, I rate Neale. But as far as I'm concerned small inside mids aren't the ones that should be on the big money. As an Eagles fan I do lean toward teams being built around key position talent though tbf haha
haha key positions, particularly forwards are way overpayed :P Even the shower ones attract 600k easy...Bloody Tyrone Vickery got that when he was a proven spud. About time they payed players on their AFL impact not their position.
Agree gun mids get the job done week in week out KPF's play like shower every second game but still get payed the big bucks  ;)

I agree that some are grossly overpaid, but good ones win you premierships ;) (Rance/Jroo) (Gov/JJK/Darling)
I actually think Richmond won the premiership due to the lack of talls, its interesting you attribute it to the only "tall" there :P and i know Collingwood didnt win in this year but they overachieved and probably because they went in with just the 1 tall as well. I think its the way of the future we will see teams playing less dud talls. But obviously there are good talls and JJK and Darling are certainly that but the days of playing a dud tall for the sake of playing a tall are over i think :P But i think Neales just as valuable as any of those!!

If you wanna attribute the premiership to any single player its Shuey and Sheed not JJK/Darling ;) interesting how people still love the talls ;) Things are changing though
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: elephants on October 06, 2018, 10:23:00 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 06, 2018, 09:52:09 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 06, 2018, 09:42:48 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 06, 2018, 08:20:04 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 06, 2018, 08:05:09 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 06, 2018, 08:02:27 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 06, 2018, 07:28:51 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 06, 2018, 07:27:28 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 06, 2018, 07:21:02 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 06, 2018, 07:09:17 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 06, 2018, 06:40:02 PM
https://www.watoday.com.au/national/western-australia/freo-midfielder-lachie-neale-committed-to-brisbane-trade-20181006-p5085t.html

Neale committed to Brisbane and maybe a 6 year contract worth $1m a year.r

Wow no wonder he wants to head up there. Crazy money imo
1m a year for elite mids is just the the norm these days the money being reportedly thrown at Shiel is a bit silly a lesser player than Neale IMO
Agreed. Worth every cent.
Yep far from the worst guy on a mil, atleast this guy can play football and isnt just payed a mil cause he is tall

Don't get me wrong, I rate Neale. But as far as I'm concerned small inside mids aren't the ones that should be on the big money. As an Eagles fan I do lean toward teams being built around key position talent though tbf haha
haha key positions, particularly forwards are way overpayed :P Even the shower ones attract 600k easy...Bloody Tyrone Vickery got that when he was a proven spud. About time they payed players on their AFL impact not their position.
Agree gun mids get the job done week in week out KPF's play like shower every second game but still get payed the big bucks  ;)

I agree that some are grossly overpaid, but good ones win you premierships ;) (Rance/Jroo) (Gov/JJK/Darling)
I actually think Richmond won the premiership due to the lack of talls, its interesting you attribute it to the only "tall" there :P and i know Collingwood didnt win in this year but they overachieved and probably because they went in with just the 1 tall as well. I think its the way of the future we will see teams playing less dud talls. But obviously there are good talls and JJK and Darling are certainly that but the days of playing a dud tall for the sake of playing a tall are over i think :P But i think Neales just as valuable as any of those!!

If you wanna attribute the premiership to any single player its Shuey and Sheed not JJK/Darling ;) interesting how people still love the talls ;) Things are changing though

Haha we'll see mate.

I'll take a good KPF/KPD + average mid over an average KPF/KPD + good mid all day everyyyy day. They're KEY position players for a reason imo!
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 07, 2018, 10:29:54 AM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-10-07/gun-docker-neale-addresses-elephant-in-the-room

Neale gave a potential hint at his mindset, though, when he referred to the Dockers as "they" when asked if Fremantle could play finals next season.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 07, 2018, 11:01:00 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 07, 2018, 10:29:54 AM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-10-07/gun-docker-neale-addresses-elephant-in-the-room

Neale gave a potential hint at his mindset, though, when he referred to the Dockers as "they" when asked if Fremantle could play finals next season.
Also him saying he would be fine if he had to stay at Freo next year but yep he is looking for success , I can actually see the Dee's and Freo working something out with Neale and Hogan between themselves if the Lions don't come up with an adequate deal for Freo , the Dee's have McDonald and Weideman as tall forwards and getting someone like Neale into an already good midfield would be scary plus Neale will get his wish with a good chance of success.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SilverLion on October 07, 2018, 11:30:20 AM
Quote from: shaker on October 07, 2018, 11:01:00 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 07, 2018, 10:29:54 AM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-10-07/gun-docker-neale-addresses-elephant-in-the-room

Neale gave a potential hint at his mindset, though, when he referred to the Dockers as "they" when asked if Fremantle could play finals next season.
Also him saying he would be fine if he had to stay at Freo next year but yep he is looking for success , I can actually see the Dee's and Freo working something out with Neale and Hogan between themselves if the Lions don't come up with an adequate deal for Freo , the Dee's have McDonald and Weideman as tall forwards and getting someone like Neale into an already good midfield would be scary plus Neale will get his wish with a good chance of success.
But Neale wants to go to Brissy (or stay at Freo) not Melbourne ::)
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 07, 2018, 12:50:48 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 07, 2018, 11:30:20 AM
Quote from: shaker on October 07, 2018, 11:01:00 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 07, 2018, 10:29:54 AM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-10-07/gun-docker-neale-addresses-elephant-in-the-room

Neale gave a potential hint at his mindset, though, when he referred to the Dockers as "they" when asked if Fremantle could play finals next season.
Also him saying he would be fine if he had to stay at Freo next year but yep he is looking for success , I can actually see the Dee's and Freo working something out with Neale and Hogan between themselves if the Lions don't come up with an adequate deal for Freo , the Dee's have McDonald and Weideman as tall forwards and getting someone like Neale into an already good midfield would be scary plus Neale will get his wish with a good chance of success.
But Neale wants to go to Brissy (or stay at Freo) not Melbourne ::)
Marcus Adams was homesick. Now he wants to go to the pies lol
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Nige on October 07, 2018, 01:09:16 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2018, 12:50:48 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 07, 2018, 11:30:20 AM
Quote from: shaker on October 07, 2018, 11:01:00 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 07, 2018, 10:29:54 AM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-10-07/gun-docker-neale-addresses-elephant-in-the-room

Neale gave a potential hint at his mindset, though, when he referred to the Dockers as "they" when asked if Fremantle could play finals next season.
Also him saying he would be fine if he had to stay at Freo next year but yep he is looking for success , I can actually see the Dee's and Freo working something out with Neale and Hogan between themselves if the Lions don't come up with an adequate deal for Freo , the Dee's have McDonald and Weideman as tall forwards and getting someone like Neale into an already good midfield would be scary plus Neale will get his wish with a good chance of success.
But Neale wants to go to Brissy (or stay at Freo) not Melbourne ::)
Marcus Adams was homesick. Now he wants to go to the pies lol
Remember that time Mitch Clark was going from Brisbane to Freo and ended up at Melbourne?
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 07, 2018, 01:23:38 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 07, 2018, 11:30:20 AM
Quote from: shaker on October 07, 2018, 11:01:00 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 07, 2018, 10:29:54 AM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-10-07/gun-docker-neale-addresses-elephant-in-the-room

Neale gave a potential hint at his mindset, though, when he referred to the Dockers as "they" when asked if Fremantle could play finals next season.
Also him saying he would be fine if he had to stay at Freo next year but yep he is looking for success , I can actually see the Dee's and Freo working something out with Neale and Hogan between themselves if the Lions don't come up with an adequate deal for Freo , the Dee's have McDonald and Weideman as tall forwards and getting someone like Neale into an already good midfield would be scary plus Neale will get his wish with a good chance of success.
But Neale wants to go to Brissy (or stay at Freo) not Melbourne ::)
Have not heard Neale does not want to go to Melbourne it's just because it's the Lions have offered him a deal no one else "yet" the easiest for Freo and Dee's is a straight swap Freo keeps there early pick Dee's get a super gun mid , there is talk Tyson could be off to GC for KK what an awesome replacement Neale would be .
I reckon the Lions will have to be careful stuff around to much and he could be gone players like him don't come up to often  ;)
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: nas on October 07, 2018, 01:25:19 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 07, 2018, 01:09:16 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2018, 12:50:48 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 07, 2018, 11:30:20 AM
Quote from: shaker on October 07, 2018, 11:01:00 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 07, 2018, 10:29:54 AM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-10-07/gun-docker-neale-addresses-elephant-in-the-room

Neale gave a potential hint at his mindset, though, when he referred to the Dockers as "they" when asked if Fremantle could play finals next season.
Also him saying he would be fine if he had to stay at Freo next year but yep he is looking for success , I can actually see the Dee's and Freo working something out with Neale and Hogan between themselves if the Lions don't come up with an adequate deal for Freo , the Dee's have McDonald and Weideman as tall forwards and getting someone like Neale into an already good midfield would be scary plus Neale will get his wish with a good chance of success.
But Neale wants to go to Brissy (or stay at Freo) not Melbourne ::)
Marcus Adams was homesick. Now he wants to go to the pies lol
Remember that time Mitch Clark was going from Brisbane to Freo and ended up at Melbourne?
Remember that time Kurt Tippet was going from Adelaide to Suns and ended up at Sydney?
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SilverLion on October 07, 2018, 01:39:51 PM
Quote from: nas on October 07, 2018, 01:25:19 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 07, 2018, 01:09:16 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2018, 12:50:48 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 07, 2018, 11:30:20 AM
Quote from: shaker on October 07, 2018, 11:01:00 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 07, 2018, 10:29:54 AM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-10-07/gun-docker-neale-addresses-elephant-in-the-room

Neale gave a potential hint at his mindset, though, when he referred to the Dockers as "they" when asked if Fremantle could play finals next season.
Also him saying he would be fine if he had to stay at Freo next year but yep he is looking for success , I can actually see the Dee's and Freo working something out with Neale and Hogan between themselves if the Lions don't come up with an adequate deal for Freo , the Dee's have McDonald and Weideman as tall forwards and getting someone like Neale into an already good midfield would be scary plus Neale will get his wish with a good chance of success.
But Neale wants to go to Brissy (or stay at Freo) not Melbourne ::)
Marcus Adams was homesick. Now he wants to go to the pies lol
Remember that time Mitch Clark was going from Brisbane to Freo and ended up at Melbourne?
Remember that time Kurt Tippet was going from Adelaide to Suns and ended up at Sydney?
Yeah fair enough, know it does happen, would just be really unlikely imo and a surprise, like those 3 situations were to most.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 07, 2018, 03:13:33 PM
Nick Bowen - Understand Andrew Gaff is in process of informing people he's staying with Eagles.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: R.Griffen on October 07, 2018, 03:27:12 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2018, 03:13:33 PM
Nick Bowen - Understand Andrew Gaff is in process of informing people he's staying with Eagles.
North a laughing stock if they don’t get Gaff
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: elephants on October 07, 2018, 03:41:34 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2018, 03:13:33 PM
Nick Bowen - Understand Andrew Gaff is in process of informing people he's staying with Eagles.

Hows that culture now Basil you fkn potato
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 07, 2018, 04:05:07 PM
Onya Gaffy!

#Back2Back
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: R.Griffen on October 07, 2018, 05:13:23 PM
Do Eagles still get Kelly. Be funny af if the cats traded him to Freo after his manager basically said he doesn’t want to go there
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 07, 2018, 06:15:27 PM
And it's official, west coast just confirmed Gaff re signed
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 07, 2018, 06:21:35 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2018, 06:15:27 PM
And it's official, west coast just confirmed Gaff re signed

Think they deleted the tweet  :-\
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 07, 2018, 06:24:20 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 07, 2018, 06:21:35 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2018, 06:15:27 PM
And it's official, west coast just confirmed Gaff re signed

Think they deleted the tweet  :-\
Ha yep they did, after everyone ran with it. The link on the original was broken so they're probably just re doing it.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 07, 2018, 06:24:30 PM
Wonder who Norf will throw truckloads of money at now Shiel , Neale ?
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: iZander on October 07, 2018, 06:32:07 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 07, 2018, 06:24:30 PM
Wonder who Norf will throw truckloads of money at now Shiel , Neale ?
i reckon Freo and GWS are hoping that ;)
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 07, 2018, 08:19:10 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-10-07/trade-wrap-contracted-dog-chooses-new-home

QuoteCONTRACTED defender Marcus Adams has officially informed the Western Bulldogs he wants to be traded to Brisbane ahead of Monday's opening of the NAB AFL Trade Period.


Mustn't be that homesick
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 07, 2018, 08:24:11 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2018, 06:24:20 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 07, 2018, 06:21:35 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2018, 06:15:27 PM
And it's official, west coast just confirmed Gaff re signed

Think they deleted the tweet  :-\
Ha yep they did, after everyone ran with it. The link on the original was broken so they're probably just re doing it.
Its up again now

http://www.westcoasteagles.com.au/sites/WestCoastEagles/news/2018-10-07/gaff-recommits-to-eagles
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: GoLions on October 07, 2018, 08:34:11 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2018, 08:19:10 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-10-07/trade-wrap-contracted-dog-chooses-new-home

QuoteCONTRACTED defender Marcus Adams has officially informed the Western Bulldogs he wants to be traded to Brisbane ahead of Monday's opening of the NAB AFL Trade Period.


Mustn't be that homesick
Would be interesting if he is locked into our 22 or not (providing a deal gets done). Andrews, Gardiner, Withergoat, Hodge, Rich, Walker was looking pretty good. Might be fighting with Walker for that last spot.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 07, 2018, 09:12:37 PM
Any details on how long Gaff has signed for and $$$?

Looking like Lobb might be opting for Freo

Always need more than 6 starting type defenders anyway so Adams should fit in well, and Hodge won't be around much longer anyway
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 07, 2018, 09:19:09 PM
Geelong won't trade Kelly unless they get a Top 10 Pick

Now that Gaff has committed, I'm happy to wait 12 months and get Kelly for chips next year :)
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: GoLions on October 07, 2018, 09:23:06 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 07, 2018, 09:12:37 PM
Always need more than 6 starting type defenders anyway so Adams should fit in well, and Hodge won't be around much longer anyway
Yeah i meant just for next year. Presume they'll throw mcstay fwd as well.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: LF on October 07, 2018, 09:32:04 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 07, 2018, 09:12:37 PM
Any details on how long Gaff has signed for and $$$?

Looking like Lobb might be opting for Freo

Always need more than 6 starting type defenders anyway so Adams should fit in well, and Hodge won't be around much longer anyway

West Coast’s offer to Gaff is believed to be a six or seven year contract in the range of $900,000 a season.

https://thewest.com.au/sport/west-coast-eagles/west-coast-puts-jeremy-mcgoverns-signature-on-andrew-gaff-re-signing-tweet-ng-b88983756z
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ringo on October 07, 2018, 09:45:06 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 07, 2018, 09:23:06 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 07, 2018, 09:12:37 PM
Always need more than 6 starting type defenders anyway so Adams should fit in well, and Hodge won't be around much longer anyway
Yeah i meant just for next year. Presume they'll throw mcstay fwd as well.
Not sure whether we need him as Skinner, Cox and Nick Robbo fair back up. Payne as well and I like the look of Coleman if we land him with a late pick. Ballandeen can also play both forward or back. One thing for certain competition for spots will be on for the first time for a number of years. So trade period will be interesting.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 07, 2018, 09:46:49 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 07, 2018, 09:45:06 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 07, 2018, 09:23:06 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 07, 2018, 09:12:37 PM
Always need more than 6 starting type defenders anyway so Adams should fit in well, and Hodge won't be around much longer anyway
Yeah i meant just for next year. Presume they'll throw mcstay fwd as well.
Not sure whether we need him as Skinner, Cox and Nick Robbo fair back up. Payne as well and I like the look of Coleman if we land him with a late pick. Ballandeen can also play both forward or back. One thing for certain competition for spots will be on for the first time for a number of years. So trade period will be interesting.

Need to remove the Brisbane goggles Ringo

Those back up guys you mentioned are nowhere near as good as Adams, and aren't really anything atm
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: jvalles69 on October 07, 2018, 09:48:05 PM
Quote from: LF on October 07, 2018, 09:32:04 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 07, 2018, 09:12:37 PM
Any details on how long Gaff has signed for and $$$?

Looking like Lobb might be opting for Freo

Always need more than 6 starting type defenders anyway so Adams should fit in well, and Hodge won't be around much longer anyway

West Coast’s offer to Gaff is believed to be a six or seven year contract in the range of $900,000 a season.

https://thewest.com.au/sport/west-coast-eagles/west-coast-puts-jeremy-mcgoverns-signature-on-andrew-gaff-re-signing-tweet-ng-b88983756z

Pretty sure there is also a media deal in play with channel 7 like the one Nic Nat got a few years back to make up some of the money he could've got moving back to Vic.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ringo on October 07, 2018, 09:58:31 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 07, 2018, 09:46:49 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 07, 2018, 09:45:06 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 07, 2018, 09:23:06 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 07, 2018, 09:12:37 PM
Always need more than 6 starting type defenders anyway so Adams should fit in well, and Hodge won't be around much longer anyway
Yeah i meant just for next year. Presume they'll throw mcstay fwd as well.
Not sure whether we need him as Skinner, Cox and Nick Robbo fair back up. Payne as well and I like the look of Coleman if we land him with a late pick. Ballandeen can also play both forward or back. One thing for certain competition for spots will be on for the first time for a number of years. So trade period will be interesting.

Need to remove the Brisbane goggles Ringo

Those back up guys you mentioned are nowhere near as good as Adams, and aren't really anything atm
Adams fits the bill nicely in the gap we have because of the go home factor but just wanting to make sure we are not left too short after trading for Neale and Mccarthy as well. We also need to draft McFayden, Coleman and Voss.
Also Adams has not played a full season in his 3 years.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: GoLions on October 07, 2018, 10:00:38 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 07, 2018, 09:58:31 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 07, 2018, 09:46:49 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 07, 2018, 09:45:06 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 07, 2018, 09:23:06 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 07, 2018, 09:12:37 PM
Always need more than 6 starting type defenders anyway so Adams should fit in well, and Hodge won't be around much longer anyway
Yeah i meant just for next year. Presume they'll throw mcstay fwd as well.
Not sure whether we need him as Skinner, Cox and Nick Robbo fair back up. Payne as well and I like the look of Coleman if we land him with a late pick. Ballandeen can also play both forward or back. One thing for certain competition for spots will be on for the first time for a number of years. So trade period will be interesting.

Need to remove the Brisbane goggles Ringo

Those back up guys you mentioned are nowhere near as good as Adams, and aren't really anything atm
Adams fits the bill nicely in the gap we have because of the go home factor but just wanting to make sure we are not left too short after trading for Neale and Mccarthy as well. We also need to draft McFayden, Coleman and Voss.
Cox and Nick Robbo are different types of players. Ballenden will be a forward. Payne is poo. Skinner needs to get his body right. For me, it's Adams, Walker, McStay fighting for 1-2 spots.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SilverLion on October 07, 2018, 10:19:13 PM
Becoming a destination club bois
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Rusty00 on October 07, 2018, 11:39:28 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 07, 2018, 10:19:13 PM
Becoming a destination club bois
Really good turnaround for you guys. Neale in particular is such a good pickup
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 08, 2018, 11:27:52 AM
Trade paperwork officially lodged.

Geelong Cats have traded Lincoln McCarthy, Rd 3 (54), Rd 4 (57) to the Brisbane Lions for Rd 3 (42), Rd 4 (60).
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 08, 2018, 12:44:30 PM
Darcy Moore has committed to signing a 2yr deal at the Pies
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ringo on October 08, 2018, 01:10:31 PM
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2018-10-08/tigers-land-lynch

Lynch now officially a tiger on a 7 year deal.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 08, 2018, 01:11:03 PM
Lynch officially a Tiger  :)
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 08, 2018, 01:12:29 PM
Really interested to see how Richmond rejig their game style/structure with Lynch coming in. They built such a strong game plan with the 1 key fwd
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 08, 2018, 01:24:30 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 08, 2018, 01:12:29 PM
Really interested to see how Richmond rejig their game style/structure with Lynch coming in. They built such a strong game plan with the 1 key fwd
It took everyone by surprise last year but the signs were there late in the year that teams were working out game plans against it , getting Lynch could make Jroo a factor further up the field but anyway getting Lynch is a massive get for the Tiges  ;)
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 08, 2018, 01:36:03 PM
For all you WC fans Peter Bell saying it looks like a deal between the clubs for Kelly is going to happen.... going to WC haha
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 08, 2018, 01:37:16 PM
BREAKING | @Richmond_FC has traded Anthony Miles, Corey Ellis and its 2019 3rd round pick to the @GoldCoastSUNS.

The Suns will give up their 2019 3rd round pick.



Low cost for potentially decent reward for GC
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 08, 2018, 01:48:41 PM
Jake Niall reporting that Rory Lobb has chose Freo
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SydneyRox on October 08, 2018, 01:49:18 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 08, 2018, 01:37:16 PM
BREAKING | @Richmond_FC has traded Anthony Miles, Corey Ellis and its 2019 3rd round pick to the @GoldCoastSUNS.

The Suns will give up their 2019 3rd round pick.



Low cost for potentially decent reward for GC

that seems like a big win for GC!!
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 08, 2018, 01:51:54 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 08, 2018, 01:49:18 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 08, 2018, 01:37:16 PM
BREAKING | @Richmond_FC has traded Anthony Miles, Corey Ellis and its 2019 3rd round pick to the @GoldCoastSUNS.

The Suns will give up their 2019 3rd round pick.



Low cost for potentially decent reward for GC

that seems like a big win for GC!!
Maybe a small thank you for making the Lynch deal easy  ;)
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: TomK on October 08, 2018, 02:09:24 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 08, 2018, 01:37:16 PM
BREAKING | @Richmond_FC has traded Anthony Miles, Corey Ellis and its 2019 3rd round pick to the @GoldCoastSUNS.

The Suns will give up their 2019 3rd round pick.



Low cost for potentially decent reward for GC
Sounds like a 'don't match and we'll give you these guys for free' deal
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ringo on October 08, 2018, 02:10:28 PM
 ;)
Quote from: shaker on October 08, 2018, 01:51:54 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 08, 2018, 01:49:18 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 08, 2018, 01:37:16 PM
BREAKING | @Richmond_FC has traded Anthony Miles, Corey Ellis and its 2019 3rd round pick to the @GoldCoastSUNS.

The Suns will give up their 2019 3rd round pick.



Low cost for potentially decent reward for GC

that seems like a big win for GC!!
Maybe a small thank you for making the Lynch deal easy  ;)
Agree - Suns a winner here but maybe after Lynch nice trade.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 08, 2018, 02:47:59 PM
Nathan Krueger (Carlton - Pre-selected state league player) has been traded to Geelong for Pick 42
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ringo on October 08, 2018, 02:51:15 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 08, 2018, 02:47:59 PM
Nathan Krueger (Carlton - Pre-selected state league player) has been traded to Geelong for Pick 42
Interesting trade - Probably not the intended result the AFL had when introducing these priority picks to Blues and Suns. Beneficiial to Blues if this pick assists them to gain McGovern.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 08, 2018, 02:52:08 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 08, 2018, 01:48:41 PM
Jake Niall reporting that Rory Lobb has chose Freo

Confirmed now too

Big coup for your boys - hopefully a deal gets done :)
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 08, 2018, 03:00:27 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 08, 2018, 02:52:08 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 08, 2018, 01:48:41 PM
Jake Niall reporting that Rory Lobb has chose Freo

Confirmed now too

Big coup for your boys - hopefully a deal gets done :)
Yeh pretty happy with it, but wowee we're tall up fwd now

Tabs, Lobb, Cox, McCarthy with Darcy/Sandi rucking

Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: GoLions on October 08, 2018, 03:12:15 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 08, 2018, 03:00:27 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 08, 2018, 02:52:08 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 08, 2018, 01:48:41 PM
Jake Niall reporting that Rory Lobb has chose Freo

Confirmed now too

Big coup for your boys - hopefully a deal gets done :)
Yeh pretty happy with it, but wowee we're tall up fwd now

Tabs, Lobb, Cox, McCarthy with Darcy/Sandi rucking
McCarthy can carry eat the oranges
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 08, 2018, 04:02:14 PM
WCE are considering matching Port's offer for Lycett and insist we have the cap space to do it

Deadline is 1pm AEDT tomorrow
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 08, 2018, 04:03:39 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 08, 2018, 03:12:15 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 08, 2018, 03:00:27 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 08, 2018, 02:52:08 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 08, 2018, 01:48:41 PM
Jake Niall reporting that Rory Lobb has chose Freo

Confirmed now too

Big coup for your boys - hopefully a deal gets done :)
Yeh pretty happy with it, but wowee we're tall up fwd now

Tabs, Lobb, Cox, McCarthy with Darcy/Sandi rucking
McCarthy can carry eat the oranges
for Peel
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: GoLions on October 08, 2018, 04:05:50 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 08, 2018, 04:03:39 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 08, 2018, 03:12:15 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 08, 2018, 03:00:27 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 08, 2018, 02:52:08 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 08, 2018, 01:48:41 PM
Jake Niall reporting that Rory Lobb has chose Freo

Confirmed now too

Big coup for your boys - hopefully a deal gets done :)
Yeh pretty happy with it, but wowee we're tall up fwd now

Tabs, Lobb, Cox, McCarthy with Darcy/Sandi rucking
McCarthy can carry eat the oranges
for Peel
For everyone
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 08, 2018, 04:54:59 PM
Well there you go now we just have to wait till the last day for the rest of the trades  :D
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SilverLion on October 08, 2018, 05:06:30 PM
Setterfield has requested a trade to Carlton.

Can't go a year without Carlton getting a GWS player.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: elephants on October 08, 2018, 05:11:20 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 08, 2018, 04:02:14 PM
WCE are considering matching Port's offer for Lycett and insist we have the cap space to do it

Deadline is 1pm AEDT tomorrow

Hope this doesn't cost us getting Kelly. Would rather draft a ruck or take Hickey on the cheap plus get Kelly than be struggling to find the coin for Kelly with Slyce
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: jvalles69 on October 08, 2018, 06:13:07 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 08, 2018, 05:11:20 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 08, 2018, 04:02:14 PM
WCE are considering matching Port's offer for Lycett and insist we have the cap space to do it

Deadline is 1pm AEDT tomorrow

Hope this doesn't cost us getting Kelly. Would rather draft a ruck or take Hickey on the cheap plus get Kelly than be struggling to find the coin for Kelly with Slyce

Yes, Lycett wanted out, now sounds like he wants back in after the Gaff signing.  So long mate, you've been good, but not for that money.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 08, 2018, 06:36:39 PM
Gold Coast Suns have signed Chris Burgess from West Adelaide and Josh Corbett from Werribee as special assistance players. One more yet to announce
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Money Shot on October 08, 2018, 06:45:15 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 08, 2018, 05:06:30 PM
Setterfield has requested a trade to Carlton.

Can't go a year without Carlton getting a GWS player.
Setterfield will be the best of the batch though.

Pick 1 and 25 for Setterfield, Shiel and 13
Pick 13 and McAdam for McGovern and 20

If we can land Setterfield, Shiel and McGovern with pick 1 then I think it is worth it. Otherwise I would rather Walsh.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Nige on October 08, 2018, 06:46:12 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 08, 2018, 06:36:39 PM
Gold Coast Suns have signed Chris Burgess from West Adelaide and Josh Corbett from Werribee as special assistance players. One more yet to announce
Corbett's a really good pick up, especially with Lynch gone. He had a super season for Werribee and thoroughly deserves a shot. I'm a fan, so hopefully he can carve out a career.

Good chance to be the Tim Kelly/Bayley Fritsch kind of success story from this year.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Big Mac on October 08, 2018, 07:05:32 PM
“Freo have cold feet. it's not no, but it's far from yes” on Hogan

From a Melb supporter with ties to the club
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: TomK on October 08, 2018, 07:09:06 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 08, 2018, 06:45:15 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 08, 2018, 05:06:30 PM
Setterfield has requested a trade to Carlton.

Can't go a year without Carlton getting a GWS player.
Setterfield will be the best of the batch though.

Pick 1 and 25 for Setterfield, Shiel and 13
Pick 13 and McAdam for McGovern and 20

If we can land Setterfield, Shiel and McGovern with pick 1 then I think it is worth it. Otherwise I would rather Walsh.
We'll keep 20 thanks but otherwise, good deal :)
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Money Shot on October 08, 2018, 07:14:53 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 08, 2018, 07:09:06 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 08, 2018, 06:45:15 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 08, 2018, 05:06:30 PM
Setterfield has requested a trade to Carlton.

Can't go a year without Carlton getting a GWS player.
Setterfield will be the best of the batch though.

Pick 1 and 25 for Setterfield, Shiel and 13
Pick 13 and McAdam for McGovern and 20

If we can land Setterfield, Shiel and McGovern with pick 1 then I think it is worth it. Otherwise I would rather Walsh.
We'll keep 20 thanks but otherwise, good deal :)
Hahahaha! We will give you next years first as well ;D
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: TomK on October 08, 2018, 07:18:08 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 08, 2018, 07:14:53 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 08, 2018, 07:09:06 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 08, 2018, 06:45:15 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 08, 2018, 05:06:30 PM
Setterfield has requested a trade to Carlton.

Can't go a year without Carlton getting a GWS player.
Setterfield will be the best of the batch though.

Pick 1 and 25 for Setterfield, Shiel and 13
Pick 13 and McAdam for McGovern and 20

If we can land Setterfield, Shiel and McGovern with pick 1 then I think it is worth it. Otherwise I would rather Walsh.
We'll keep 20 thanks but otherwise, good deal :)
Hahahaha! We will give you next years first as well ;D
Sounds good, we'll add in a future 4th as well I suppose, just cause we're generous
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Purple 77 on October 08, 2018, 09:30:46 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 08, 2018, 07:05:32 PM
“Freo have cold feet. it's not no, but it's far from yes” on Hogan

From a Melb supporter with ties to the club

Interesting. Was that from one of the trusted few on Demonland BM?

I dunno. Whilst I fear bringin on the reaper when saying this... I kinda think he's gonna stay.

But at the same time, I find it very very hard to believe Freo would go cold on Jesse. He's only everything they've ever wished for.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Purple 77 on October 08, 2018, 09:34:33 PM
After all, Hogan has the potential to do what Plugger McDonald does.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 08, 2018, 09:34:55 PM
Lobb won't cost as much as Hogan, so maybe Freo are content with Lobb and then not having to give up so much for Hogan?
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 08, 2018, 10:54:56 PM
Kelly's manager saying the Cats should trade him to WCE now

His value is higher now so they'll get more, and he will just walk out for much less next year

Has categorically ruled out Freo, not interested in them at all and only wants to come to WCE

WCE offering him a 5 year deal (Next year from Cats + 4 extra years) and say we can fit him in cap wise

Sounds like we're still a big chance of landing him now
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: elephants on October 08, 2018, 10:56:00 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 08, 2018, 10:54:56 PM
Kelly's manager saying the Cats should trade him to WCE now

His value is higher now so they'll get more, and he will just walk out for much less next year

Has categorically ruled out Freo, not interested in them at all and only wants to come to WCE

WCE offering him a 5 year deal (Next year from Cats + 4 extra years) and say we can fit him in cap wise

Sounds like we're still a big chance of landing him now

Lovvvvve this. Pull ya fingers out Catters, take Pick 20 for him - you bent us over with Scoot
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SilverLion on October 09, 2018, 10:31:28 AM
According to Sam McClure, Freo are trying to part ways with Bennell. Interesting, I heard that Neale and Bennell don't get along, if true could definitely understand why they'd be trying to get rid of him. Didn't attend the B&F either.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 09, 2018, 10:51:58 AM
Quote from: elephants on October 08, 2018, 10:56:00 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 08, 2018, 10:54:56 PM
Kelly's manager saying the Cats should trade him to WCE now

His value is higher now so they'll get more, and he will just walk out for much less next year

Has categorically ruled out Freo, not interested in them at all and only wants to come to WCE

WCE offering him a 5 year deal (Next year from Cats + 4 extra years) and say we can fit him in cap wise

Sounds like we're still a big chance of landing him now

Lovvvvve this. Pull ya fingers out Catters, take Pick 20 for him - you bent us over with Scoot

I think I read somewhere that if we have 20 and 21 (Lycett compo) then that equates to Pick 6 on points, so we do a swap or something with someone and get that pick to Geelong for Kelly or something

Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: jvalles69 on October 09, 2018, 11:31:55 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 09, 2018, 10:31:28 AM
According to Sam McClure, Freo are trying to part ways with Bennell. Interesting, I heard that Neale and Bennell don't get along, if true could definitely understand why they'd be trying to get rid of him. Didn't attend the B&F either.

This one definitely needs it's own thread...  ;D
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SydneyRox on October 09, 2018, 11:51:36 AM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 09, 2018, 11:31:55 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 09, 2018, 10:31:28 AM
According to Sam McClure, Freo are trying to part ways with Bennell. Interesting, I heard that Neale and Bennell don't get along, if true could definitely understand why they'd be trying to get rid of him. Didn't attend the B&F either.

This one definitely needs it's own thread...  ;D

If Neale and Bennell didnt get along, what does that matter when Neale is going to the Lions??

Bennell is unlucky, not sure unless he has done something wrong you would try to stiff him when you signed the contract a month ago?

Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 09, 2018, 11:52:38 AM
Shiel expected to nominate today
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: GoLions on October 09, 2018, 11:53:56 AM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 09, 2018, 11:51:36 AM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 09, 2018, 11:31:55 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 09, 2018, 10:31:28 AM
According to Sam McClure, Freo are trying to part ways with Bennell. Interesting, I heard that Neale and Bennell don't get along, if true could definitely understand why they'd be trying to get rid of him. Didn't attend the B&F either.

This one definitely needs it's own thread...  ;D

If Neale and Bennell didnt get along, what does that matter when Neale is going to the Lions??

Bennell is unlucky, not sure unless he has done something wrong you would try to stiff him when you signed the contract a month ago?
Because they're trying to keep Neale :p
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 09, 2018, 11:57:42 AM
Bennell likes to party. Neale doesnt approve. This is a play to try and keep Neale
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 09, 2018, 12:01:06 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 08, 2018, 10:54:56 PM
Kelly's manager saying the Cats should trade him to WCE now

His value is higher now so they'll get more, and he will just walk out for much less next year

Has categorically ruled out Freo, not interested in them at all and only wants to come to WCE

WCE offering him a 5 year deal (Next year from Cats + 4 extra years) and say we can fit him in cap wise

Sounds like we're still a big chance of landing him now
Kelly's manager is a dick and has something against Freo

Id expect him to get to WCE but it's not like they can hold their ground and get him for a heap cheaper next year. A little, but not a heap
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: TomK on October 09, 2018, 12:49:54 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 09, 2018, 10:51:58 AM
Quote from: elephants on October 08, 2018, 10:56:00 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 08, 2018, 10:54:56 PM
Kelly's manager saying the Cats should trade him to WCE now

His value is higher now so they'll get more, and he will just walk out for much less next year

Has categorically ruled out Freo, not interested in them at all and only wants to come to WCE

WCE offering him a 5 year deal (Next year from Cats + 4 extra years) and say we can fit him in cap wise

Sounds like we're still a big chance of landing him now

Lovvvvve this. Pull ya fingers out Catters, take Pick 20 for him - you bent us over with Scoot

I think I read somewhere that if we have 20 and 21 (Lycett compo) then that equates to Pick 6 on points, so we do a swap or something with someone and get that pick to Geelong for Kelly or something
No team is gonna trade a pick anywhere near 6 for those two picks though
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SydneyRox on October 09, 2018, 12:55:56 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 09, 2018, 11:57:42 AM
Bennell likes to party. Neale doesnt approve. This is a play to try and keep Neale

I didnt think they wanted to keep him? I know they are making noises that say he is required, in contract blah blah, but between the lines it sounds like they are just trying to pump the value, not keep him.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Gigantor on October 09, 2018, 12:56:44 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 09, 2018, 12:49:54 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 09, 2018, 10:51:58 AM
Quote from: elephants on October 08, 2018, 10:56:00 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 08, 2018, 10:54:56 PM
Kelly's manager saying the Cats should trade him to WCE now

His value is higher now so they'll get more, and he will just walk out for much less next year

Has categorically ruled out Freo, not interested in them at all and only wants to come to WCE

WCE offering him a 5 year deal (Next year from Cats + 4 extra years) and say we can fit him in cap wise

Sounds like we're still a big chance of landing him now

Lovvvvve this. Pull ya fingers out Catters, take Pick 20 for him - you bent us over with Scoot

I think I read somewhere that if we have 20 and 21 (Lycett compo) then that equates to Pick 6 on points, so we do a swap or something with someone and get that pick to Geelong for Kelly or something
No team is gonna trade a pick anywhere near 6 for those two picks though

Gold Coast tried last year but it turned into pick 18  ;D
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 09, 2018, 01:06:02 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 09, 2018, 12:55:56 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 09, 2018, 11:57:42 AM
Bennell likes to party. Neale doesnt approve. This is a play to try and keep Neale

I didnt think they wanted to keep him? I know they are making noises that say he is required, in contract blah blah, but between the lines it sounds like they are just trying to pump the value, not keep him.
Who Neale? Nah man they'll do anything to keep him
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: iZander on October 09, 2018, 02:33:50 PM
Shiels coming to the dons  8) 8)
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: TomK on October 09, 2018, 02:40:04 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 09, 2018, 02:33:50 PM
Shiels coming to the dons  8) 8)
Liam? :o
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: iZander on October 09, 2018, 02:41:30 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 09, 2018, 02:40:04 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 09, 2018, 02:33:50 PM
Shiels coming to the dons  8) 8)
Liam? :o
Look, id take either one :P but happier with Dylan ;)
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 09, 2018, 02:44:48 PM
Not confirmed yet

Would be hilarious now if it isn't Essendon  ;D
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: iZander on October 09, 2018, 02:52:14 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 09, 2018, 02:44:48 PM
Not confirmed yet

Would be hilarious now if it isn't Essendon  ;D
Hahaha it actually would after hearing some of the guys that called up on trade radio! Also knowing my own reaction too :P
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Money Shot on October 09, 2018, 02:52:44 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 09, 2018, 02:44:48 PM
Not confirmed yet

Would be hilarious now if it isn't Essendon  ;D
Sam McClure is the same person that reported that Essendon were out of the race ;D

Upset that the blues won't be getting him but: McGovern, Setterfield, Walsh and Fasolo will all be starting round 1 next year if fit which is handy.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 09, 2018, 02:54:22 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-10-09/giant-decision-shiel-says-its-the-bombers

Hasn't been announced, but Carlton, Hawks and Saints have been told he isn't going to them, so it's Essendon
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: jvalles69 on October 09, 2018, 04:03:23 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 09, 2018, 02:52:44 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 09, 2018, 02:44:48 PM
Not confirmed yet

Would be hilarious now if it isn't Essendon  ;D
Sam McClure is the same person that reported that Essendon were out of the race ;D

Upset that the blues won't be getting him but: McGovern, Setterfield, Walsh and Fasolo will all be starting round 1 next year if fit which is handy.

If that was my clubs off-season, I'd be ropable...
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: TomK on October 09, 2018, 04:10:47 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 09, 2018, 04:03:23 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 09, 2018, 02:52:44 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 09, 2018, 02:44:48 PM
Not confirmed yet

Would be hilarious now if it isn't Essendon  ;D
Sam McClure is the same person that reported that Essendon were out of the race ;D

Upset that the blues won't be getting him but: McGovern, Setterfield, Walsh and Fasolo will all be starting round 1 next year if fit which is handy.

If that was my clubs off-season, I'd be ropable...
Why? 3 young players with a heap of potential and Fasolo? Pretty solid if you ask me.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: jvalles69 on October 09, 2018, 04:44:15 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 09, 2018, 04:10:47 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 09, 2018, 04:03:23 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 09, 2018, 02:52:44 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 09, 2018, 02:44:48 PM
Not confirmed yet

Would be hilarious now if it isn't Essendon  ;D
Sam McClure is the same person that reported that Essendon were out of the race ;D

Upset that the blues won't be getting him but: McGovern, Setterfield, Walsh and Fasolo will all be starting round 1 next year if fit which is handy.

If that was my clubs off-season, I'd be ropable...
Why? 3 young players with a heap of potential and Fasolo? Pretty solid if you ask me.

Really think those 3 guys make them move up the ladder?  I could be wrong, but these are the types of signings they've made over the past few years and where are they? Still on the bottom. But I guess you can't force the good players to go there.

Ladder postion
2018 - 18th
2017 - 16th
2016 - 14th
2015 - 18th
2014 - 13th
2013 - 8th

Trend does not look great.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: TomK on October 09, 2018, 04:48:13 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 09, 2018, 04:44:15 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 09, 2018, 04:10:47 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 09, 2018, 04:03:23 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 09, 2018, 02:52:44 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 09, 2018, 02:44:48 PM
Not confirmed yet

Would be hilarious now if it isn't Essendon  ;D
Sam McClure is the same person that reported that Essendon were out of the race ;D

Upset that the blues won't be getting him but: McGovern, Setterfield, Walsh and Fasolo will all be starting round 1 next year if fit which is handy.

If that was my clubs off-season, I'd be ropable...
Why? 3 young players with a heap of potential and Fasolo? Pretty solid if you ask me.

Really think those 3 guys make them move up the ladder?  I could be wrong, but these are the types of signings they've made over the past few years and where are they? Still on the bottom. But I guess you can't force the good players to go there.

Ladder postion
2018 - 18th
2017 - 16th
2016 - 14th
2015 - 18th
2014 - 13th
2013 - 8th

Trend does not look great.
Ah gotcha, I thought you just meant in general, not only Carlton, cause most clubs would be happy with a haul like that. Agree with you on that then, definitely can't force or even expect current stars to head there unless they want the $$$, which Shiel doesn't seem to care enough about to head there.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Money Shot on October 09, 2018, 04:52:48 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 09, 2018, 04:48:13 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 09, 2018, 04:44:15 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 09, 2018, 04:10:47 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 09, 2018, 04:03:23 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 09, 2018, 02:52:44 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 09, 2018, 02:44:48 PM
Not confirmed yet

Would be hilarious now if it isn't Essendon  ;D
Sam McClure is the same person that reported that Essendon were out of the race ;D

Upset that the blues won't be getting him but: McGovern, Setterfield, Walsh and Fasolo will all be starting round 1 next year if fit which is handy.

If that was my clubs off-season, I'd be ropable...
Why? 3 young players with a heap of potential and Fasolo? Pretty solid if you ask me.

Really think those 3 guys make them move up the ladder?  I could be wrong, but these are the types of signings they've made over the past few years and where are they? Still on the bottom. But I guess you can't force the good players to go there.

Ladder postion
2018 - 18th
2017 - 16th
2016 - 14th
2015 - 18th
2014 - 13th
2013 - 8th

Trend does not look great.
Ah gotcha, I thought you just meant in general, not only Carlton, cause most clubs would be happy with a haul like that. Agree with you on that then, definitely can't force or even expect current stars to head there unless they want the $$$, which Shiel doesn't seem to care enough about to head there.
Obviously Shiel was the one player I really wanted as he is a real game changer. Setterfield, McGovern and Fasolo are all talented and at the right age for us though so they are all good gets. We also get Walsh now as well who is a Josh Kelly type player.

Maybe pick up a Barlow type as well for some depth and too help our young talent.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: jvalles69 on October 09, 2018, 05:00:41 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 09, 2018, 04:52:48 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 09, 2018, 04:48:13 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 09, 2018, 04:44:15 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 09, 2018, 04:10:47 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 09, 2018, 04:03:23 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 09, 2018, 02:52:44 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 09, 2018, 02:44:48 PM
Not confirmed yet

Would be hilarious now if it isn't Essendon  ;D
Sam McClure is the same person that reported that Essendon were out of the race ;D

Upset that the blues won't be getting him but: McGovern, Setterfield, Walsh and Fasolo will all be starting round 1 next year if fit which is handy.

If that was my clubs off-season, I'd be ropable...
Why? 3 young players with a heap of potential and Fasolo? Pretty solid if you ask me.

Really think those 3 guys make them move up the ladder?  I could be wrong, but these are the types of signings they've made over the past few years and where are they? Still on the bottom. But I guess you can't force the good players to go there.

Ladder postion
2018 - 18th
2017 - 16th
2016 - 14th
2015 - 18th
2014 - 13th
2013 - 8th

Trend does not look great.
Ah gotcha, I thought you just meant in general, not only Carlton, cause most clubs would be happy with a haul like that. Agree with you on that then, definitely can't force or even expect current stars to head there unless they want the $$$, which Shiel doesn't seem to care enough about to head there.
Obviously Shiel was the one player I really wanted as he is a real game changer. Setterfield, McGovern and Fasolo are all talented and at the right age for us though so they are all good gets. We also get Walsh now as well who is a Josh Kelly type player.

Maybe pick up a Barlow type as well for some depth and too help our young talent.

You make sense...but will your club do the same is the question?  Feel it's pretty tough in general for those bottom teams to climb back up the ranks.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 09, 2018, 05:00:47 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 09, 2018, 04:52:48 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 09, 2018, 04:48:13 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 09, 2018, 04:44:15 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 09, 2018, 04:10:47 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 09, 2018, 04:03:23 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 09, 2018, 02:52:44 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 09, 2018, 02:44:48 PM
Not confirmed yet

Would be hilarious now if it isn't Essendon  ;D
Sam McClure is the same person that reported that Essendon were out of the race ;D

Upset that the blues won't be getting him but: McGovern, Setterfield, Walsh and Fasolo will all be starting round 1 next year if fit which is handy.

If that was my clubs off-season, I'd be ropable...
Why? 3 young players with a heap of potential and Fasolo? Pretty solid if you ask me.

Really think those 3 guys make them move up the ladder?  I could be wrong, but these are the types of signings they've made over the past few years and where are they? Still on the bottom. But I guess you can't force the good players to go there.

Ladder postion
2018 - 18th
2017 - 16th
2016 - 14th
2015 - 18th
2014 - 13th
2013 - 8th

Trend does not look great.
Ah gotcha, I thought you just meant in general, not only Carlton, cause most clubs would be happy with a haul like that. Agree with you on that then, definitely can't force or even expect current stars to head there unless they want the $$$, which Shiel doesn't seem to care enough about to head there.
Obviously Shiel was the one player I really wanted as he is a real game changer. Setterfield, McGovern and Fasolo are all talented and at the right age for us though so they are all good gets. We also get Walsh now as well who is a Josh Kelly type player.

Maybe pick up a Barlow type as well for some depth and too help our young talent.
Setterfield has potential McGovern will help , Fasolo won't help much he may play the odd good game but he failed to have much of an impact even at VFL level this year , Barlow would probably be better for a team in the premiership window Cripps needs a hand so Barlow maybe for that reason.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: TomK on October 09, 2018, 06:50:51 PM
Rumours the Gov deal is done, potentially involving Sydney.

Ade give: McGovern, 2019 3rd
Ade get: Pick 13, Blues' 2019 5th, McAdam

Carl give: Pick 26, Pick 28, 2019 5th, McAdam
Carl get: McGovern, Crows' 2019 3rd

Sydney give: Pick 13
Sydney get: Pick 26, Pick 28

Sydney obviously only do this for more academy points since the two 2nds equal more than 13 using the scale, Sydney trade could be done separately as well. I'll be upset if we get the 26 and 28 on their own though, fingers crossed the Sydney involvement is true.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Purple 77 on October 09, 2018, 07:09:53 PM
Demonlanders saying we should pick up Honeybadger as a Cat B Rookie. Strong, athletic, and a record number of disposals.

;D
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Nige on October 09, 2018, 07:34:43 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 09, 2018, 07:09:53 PM
Demonlanders saying we should pick up Honeybadger as a Cat B Rookie. Strong, athletic, and a record number of disposals.

;D
Bloke has commitment issues though.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SydneyRox on October 09, 2018, 08:02:26 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 09, 2018, 06:50:51 PM
Rumours the Gov deal is done, potentially involving Sydney.

Ade give: McGovern, 2019 3rd
Ade get: Pick 13, Blues' 2019 5th, McAdam

Carl give: Pick 26, Pick 28, 2019 5th, McAdam
Carl get: McGovern, Crows' 2019 3rd

Sydney give: Pick 13
Sydney get: Pick 26, Pick 28

Sydney obviously only do this for more academy points since the two 2nds equal more than 13 using the scale, Sydney trade could be done separately as well. I'll be upset if we get the 26 and 28 on their own though, fingers crossed the Sydney involvement is true.

Think its too early for Sydney to be making this deal. If it was the last day or so then, yes, but way too much to play out IMO

From reading the tea leaves, we are trying to move UP, closer to 5 so we get an early pick and then use the rest on Blakely

Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SilverLion on October 09, 2018, 08:05:49 PM
Guess I'm the only one that thinks 26 + McAdam is ample for McGovern :o
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SilverLion on October 09, 2018, 08:10:53 PM
Apparently there was an article on the Lions website saying that we've traded 24, 58 and 79 to GC for 32, 41, 44 and 77, but has since been taken down. Didn't see the article myself, can anyone here confirm?

If true would probably be a likely deal to take place tomorrow to help facilitate the Adams/Neale trades.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: TomK on October 09, 2018, 08:14:05 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 09, 2018, 08:02:26 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 09, 2018, 06:50:51 PM
Rumours the Gov deal is done, potentially involving Sydney.

Ade give: McGovern, 2019 3rd
Ade get: Pick 13, Blues' 2019 5th, McAdam

Carl give: Pick 26, Pick 28, 2019 5th, McAdam
Carl get: McGovern, Crows' 2019 3rd

Sydney give: Pick 13
Sydney get: Pick 26, Pick 28

Sydney obviously only do this for more academy points since the two 2nds equal more than 13 using the scale, Sydney trade could be done separately as well. I'll be upset if we get the 26 and 28 on their own though, fingers crossed the Sydney involvement is true.

Think its too early for Sydney to be making this deal. If it was the last day or so then, yes, but way too much to play out IMO

From reading the tea leaves, we are trying to move UP, closer to 5 so we get an early pick and then use the rest on Blakely
Fair enough, guess we shall see what happens
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Big Mac on October 09, 2018, 08:33:20 PM
Tyson for Preuss could be on the cards
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Purple 77 on October 09, 2018, 08:50:24 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 09, 2018, 08:33:20 PM
Tyson for Preuss could be on the cards

Makes more sense. I'd have thought Tyson would HATE going to another basket case, and rumours were saying he was indeed against that. So makes more sense for him; opportunity at a competitive club.

Mind you, is he a walk up at North?
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 09, 2018, 08:57:23 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 09, 2018, 08:50:24 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 09, 2018, 08:33:20 PM
Tyson for Preuss could be on the cards

Makes more sense. I'd have thought Tyson would HATE going to another basket case, and rumours were saying he was indeed against that. So makes more sense for him; opportunity at a competitive club.

Mind you, is he a walk up at North?
Not with their additions
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: crowls on October 09, 2018, 09:26:01 PM
Happy Happy Bombers fan,   Shiel will fill the gap in our Mids.   Cannot believe we have landed this bloke.   What do we have to give to get it over the line.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 09, 2018, 09:54:11 PM
Quote from: crowls on October 09, 2018, 09:26:01 PM
Happy Happy Bombers fan,   Shiel will fill the gap in our Mids.   Cannot believe we have landed this bloke.   What do we have to give to get it over the line.

Pick 9 and either this year's 2nd that you actually received from GWS last year or next year's 2nd should do it
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: jvalles69 on October 09, 2018, 10:11:37 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 09, 2018, 08:57:23 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 09, 2018, 08:50:24 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 09, 2018, 08:33:20 PM
Tyson for Preuss could be on the cards

Makes more sense. I'd have thought Tyson would HATE going to another basket case, and rumours were saying he was indeed against that. So makes more sense for him; opportunity at a competitive club.

Mind you, is he a walk up at North?
Not with their additions

Might be room on the wing... :P
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 09, 2018, 10:18:26 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 09, 2018, 08:14:05 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 09, 2018, 08:02:26 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 09, 2018, 06:50:51 PM
Rumours the Gov deal is done, potentially involving Sydney.

Ade give: McGovern, 2019 3rd
Ade get: Pick 13, Blues' 2019 5th, McAdam

Carl give: Pick 26, Pick 28, 2019 5th, McAdam
Carl get: McGovern, Crows' 2019 3rd

Sydney give: Pick 13
Sydney get: Pick 26, Pick 28

Sydney obviously only do this for more academy points since the two 2nds equal more than 13 using the scale, Sydney trade could be done separately as well. I'll be upset if we get the 26 and 28 on their own though, fingers crossed the Sydney involvement is true.

Think its too early for Sydney to be making this deal. If it was the last day or so then, yes, but way too much to play out IMO

From reading the tea leaves, we are trying to move UP, closer to 5 so we get an early pick and then use the rest on Blakely
Fair enough, guess we shall see what happens

HS reporting that WCE could give Sydney 20+22 for 13 to then use to get Kelly, and that would appear to be better for Sydney than this suggestion ;)
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: TomK on October 09, 2018, 10:44:23 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 09, 2018, 10:18:26 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 09, 2018, 08:14:05 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 09, 2018, 08:02:26 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 09, 2018, 06:50:51 PM
Rumours the Gov deal is done, potentially involving Sydney.

Ade give: McGovern, 2019 3rd
Ade get: Pick 13, Blues' 2019 5th, McAdam

Carl give: Pick 26, Pick 28, 2019 5th, McAdam
Carl get: McGovern, Crows' 2019 3rd

Sydney give: Pick 13
Sydney get: Pick 26, Pick 28

Sydney obviously only do this for more academy points since the two 2nds equal more than 13 using the scale, Sydney trade could be done separately as well. I'll be upset if we get the 26 and 28 on their own though, fingers crossed the Sydney involvement is true.

Think its too early for Sydney to be making this deal. If it was the last day or so then, yes, but way too much to play out IMO

From reading the tea leaves, we are trying to move UP, closer to 5 so we get an early pick and then use the rest on Blakely
Fair enough, guess we shall see what happens

HS reporting that WCE could give Sydney 20+22 for 13 to then use to get Kelly, and that would appear to be better for Sydney than this suggestion ;)
pls no :'(
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: TomK on October 09, 2018, 11:22:26 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-10-09/swans-key-to-sealing-mcgovern-deal

SYDNEY has emerged as the circuit breaker in a deal to send Adelaide forward Mitch McGovern to Carlton, with the trade set to be finalised with the AFL on Wednesday.

AFL.com.au understands Carlton and Adelaide reached a breakthrough in talks over McGovern on Tuesday night, with the official paperwork set to be lodged imminently.

As part of the deal, the Blues will send picks No.26 and 28 to the Swans in exchange for pick 13.

That earlier draft selection will then be sent to the Crows in exchange for McGovern, along with the rights to mature-aged SANFL prospect Shane McAdam.

Future picks could also be traded between the three parties in order to ensure the deal gets over the line.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Big Mac on October 10, 2018, 01:32:38 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 09, 2018, 08:50:24 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 09, 2018, 08:33:20 PM
Tyson for Preuss could be on the cards

Makes more sense. I'd have thought Tyson would HATE going to another basket case, and rumours were saying he was indeed against that. So makes more sense for him; opportunity at a competitive club.

Mind you, is he a walk up at North?

His inside game is pretty strong, could go well dishing it out to Higgins/Ahern/Hall
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 10, 2018, 03:44:53 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 09, 2018, 09:54:11 PM
Quote from: crowls on October 09, 2018, 09:26:01 PM
Happy Happy Bombers fan,   Shiel will fill the gap in our Mids.   Cannot believe we have landed this bloke.   What do we have to give to get it over the line.

Pick 9 and either this year's 2nd that you actually received from GWS last year or next year's 2nd should do it

was Lobb going? thought they might be interested in Luey
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: nas on October 10, 2018, 09:19:22 AM
PORT Adelaide wingman Jared Polec will be joined at North Melbourne next year by defender teammate Jasper Pittard.

The Roos will part with pick 11 in this year's draft for the pair, getting pick 48 in return.

The Power will also receive North's 2019 fourth-round selection.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-10-10/twoforone-deal-for-kangaroos-with-port
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SilverLion on October 10, 2018, 10:20:36 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 09, 2018, 08:10:53 PM
Apparently there was an article on the Lions website saying that we've traded 24, 58 and 79 to GC for 32, 41, 44 and 77, but has since been taken down. Didn't see the article myself, can anyone here confirm?

If true would probably be a likely deal to take place tomorrow to help facilitate the Adams/Neale trades.

Boom.

https://twitter.com/traderadio/status/1049787560669589504
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2018, 10:49:01 AM
The Mitch McGovern deal is official. Crows get pick 13, Carlton's 2019 5th rd, Shane McAdam. Carlton gets McGovern and Adelaide's 2019 3rd. Sydney gets 26, 28, 40 @AFLcomau
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Money Shot on October 10, 2018, 11:00:50 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2018, 10:49:01 AM
The Mitch McGovern deal is official. Crows get pick 13, Carlton's 2019 5th rd, Shane McAdam. Carlton gets McGovern and Adelaide's 2019 3rd. Sydney gets 26, 28, 40 @AFLcomau
This is a win win trade for everyone I think.

Carlton get McGovern and don't have to give up pick 1 as well as moving up in next years draft a little bit.
Adelaide get McAdam and 13 which is overs but as a contracted player it is fair enough.
Sydney are better placed to land Blakely
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ringo on October 10, 2018, 11:01:06 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 10, 2018, 10:20:36 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 09, 2018, 08:10:53 PM
Apparently there was an article on the Lions website saying that we've traded 24, 58 and 79 to GC for 32, 41, 44 and 77, but has since been taken down. Didn't see the article myself, can anyone here confirm?

If true would probably be a likely deal to take place tomorrow to help facilitate the Adams/Neale trades.

Boom.

https://twitter.com/traderadio/status/1049787560669589504
Also gives an extra 408 points to assist with McFayden if need be and maybe Coleman if he goes top 50.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: TomK on October 10, 2018, 11:26:00 AM
Quote from: TomK on October 09, 2018, 06:50:51 PM
Rumours the Gov deal is done, potentially involving Sydney.

Ade give: McGovern, 2019 3rd
Ade get: Pick 13, Blues' 2019 5th, McAdam

Carl give: Pick 26, Pick 28, 2019 5th, McAdam
Carl get: McGovern, Crows' 2019 3rd

Sydney give: Pick 13
Sydney get: Pick 26, Pick 28

Sydney obviously only do this for more academy points since the two 2nds equal more than 13 using the scale, Sydney trade could be done separately as well. I'll be upset if we get the 26 and 28 on their own though, fingers crossed the Sydney involvement is true.
call me the list manager
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2018, 11:26:55 AM
Gary Rohan to the Cats for pick 61
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2018, 11:38:55 AM
Quote from: nas on October 10, 2018, 09:19:22 AM
PORT Adelaide wingman Jared Polec will be joined at North Melbourne next year by defender teammate Jasper Pittard.

The Roos will part with pick 11 in this year's draft for the pair, getting pick 48 in return.

The Power will also receive North's 2019 fourth-round selection.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-10-10/twoforone-deal-for-kangaroos-with-port
Yep officially done now
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2018, 11:41:23 AM
Good deal for Norf I reckon
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Money Shot on October 10, 2018, 11:51:22 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2018, 11:41:23 AM
Good deal for Norf I reckon
Agreed.

get Pittard for free who I personally think is a really good player and a great fit for Norf.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2018, 11:54:17 AM
Looks like Ryan Clarke will head to Sydney for Pick 69, and now that they have secured Pittard Norf won't be getting Newman or Finlayson

Deals for Dom Tyson and Aaron Hall to head to Norf should happen soon too
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2018, 11:59:45 AM
Peter Ryan saying Tom Hickey will join WCE
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2018, 12:04:42 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2018, 11:54:17 AM
Looks like Ryan Clarke will head to Sydney for Pick 69, and now that they have secured Pittard Norf won't be getting Newman or Finlayson

Deals for Dom Tyson and Aaron Hall to head to Norf should happen soon too
Mitch Cleary saying it's this 3 way

Geelong's pick 61 (they got from Brisbane for McCarthy) moves to Sydney for Gary Rohan.
Swans then pass onto North Melbourne for Ryan Clarke


Guess we'll see shortly
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: TomK on October 10, 2018, 12:13:11 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 10, 2018, 11:51:22 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2018, 11:41:23 AM
Good deal for Norf I reckon
Agreed.

get Pittard for free who I personally think is a really good player and a great fit for Norf.
Haven’t watched him play much recently I guess
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SydneyRox on October 10, 2018, 12:21:22 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2018, 12:04:42 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2018, 11:54:17 AM
Looks like Ryan Clarke will head to Sydney for Pick 69, and now that they have secured Pittard Norf won't be getting Newman or Finlayson

Deals for Dom Tyson and Aaron Hall to head to Norf should happen soon too
Mitch Cleary saying it's this 3 way

Geelong's pick 61 (they got from Brisbane for McCarthy) moves to Sydney for Gary Rohan.
Swans then pass onto North Melbourne for Ryan Clarke


Guess we'll see shortly

I like this for Sydney if it works, essentially swapping Rohan for Clarke, when we had very little bargaining power.

Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Nige on October 10, 2018, 12:25:23 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 10, 2018, 12:13:11 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 10, 2018, 11:51:22 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2018, 11:41:23 AM
Good deal for Norf I reckon
Agreed.

get Pittard for free who I personally think is a really good player and a great fit for Norf.
Haven’t watched him play much recently I guess
Welcome to 2016.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 10, 2018, 12:27:15 PM
so is Shane McAdam any good
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Mat0369 on October 10, 2018, 12:56:36 PM
I figured pick 40 was going to come back to us in the Gov trade. Turns out that went to Sydney and we got back a 3rd next year.

We need to generate more picks in the draft this year. Not sure how we do that now. We need to get back into the 2nd round somehow or get some FA's other than Fasolo to help out on the fringe.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2018, 12:57:59 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2018, 11:59:45 AM
Peter Ryan saying Tom Hickey will join WCE
Done deal. For a 2nd round pick

Handy pickup for WCE given what they need
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Money Shot on October 10, 2018, 01:03:32 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 10, 2018, 12:25:23 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 10, 2018, 12:13:11 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 10, 2018, 11:51:22 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2018, 11:41:23 AM
Good deal for Norf I reckon
Agreed.

get Pittard for free who I personally think is a really good player and a great fit for Norf.
Haven’t watched him play much recently I guess
Welcome to 2016.
That is true I guess.

I haven't watched him play recently but a couple of years ago I thought he was going to be one of the best rebounding defenders in the leauge. Obviously something went wrong haha...
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Money Shot on October 10, 2018, 01:07:19 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 10, 2018, 12:56:36 PM
I figured pick 40 was going to come back to us in the Gov trade. Turns out that went to Sydney and we got back a 3rd next year.

We need to generate more picks in the draft this year. Not sure how we do that now. We need to get back into the 2nd round somehow or get some FA's other than Fasolo to help out on the fringe.
With Casboult the only player looking like being traded I don't see how it will happen either sadly. No way he is worth a second rounder. Even 53 (hawks 3rd round pick) is probably overs for him.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: TomK on October 10, 2018, 01:08:25 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 10, 2018, 12:27:15 PM
so is Shane McAdam any good
Small-medium forward with a great leap, good defensive pressure, can find the goals, and has a few tricks up his sleave. He's not bad, definitely worth the punt as steak knives in the trade since he would've been picked in the NAT or Rookie draft anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBiQquW9W2I
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Mat0369 on October 10, 2018, 01:10:47 PM
It will be packaging our thirds this year or trading future picks from next year to score some picks in the draft. I'm assuming our 2nd round pick next year will get Setterfield done.

I wonder if we're in the Newman sweepstakes now? We could use Levi in that deal to give the Swans some depth at a position they're cooked past Buddy.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Koop on October 10, 2018, 01:43:53 PM
Happy with that North deal from our end. Obviously disappointed at losing that outside run, but rumours aplenty that we're using our two first rounders to grab the Sainters pick 4 to nab Rankine so not too fussed.

As for the players, Polec is fantastic & seriously underrated, but he's got a foot condition that will need to be managed for the rest of his career. Not sure playing on the Etihad surface every second week was a good move but we'll see. Pittard has been completely rubbish in crunch games for the last two years. North can have him!
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: TomK on October 10, 2018, 01:49:14 PM
Quote from: Koop on October 10, 2018, 01:43:53 PM
Happy with that North deal from our end. Obviously disappointed at losing that outside run, but rumours aplenty that we're using our two first rounders to grab the Sainters pick 4 to nab Rankine so not too fussed.
Not if we get there first 8)
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2018, 02:19:02 PM
Tom Langdon had a medical at Sydney
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2018, 02:25:50 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2018, 02:19:02 PM
Tom Langdon had a medical at Sydney
Freo are keen too. Sounds like the Syd and Freo offers are significantly more than the Pies offer
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 10, 2018, 02:26:50 PM
Don't be surprised if GC take the 2top SA boys at 2 and 3 so as to soften the blow of moving away from home
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: iZander on October 10, 2018, 02:29:49 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 10, 2018, 02:26:50 PM
Don't be surprised if GC take the 2top SA boys at 2 and 3 so as to soften the blow of moving away from home
that just increases the blow when they both leave ;)
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SydneyRox on October 10, 2018, 02:41:26 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2018, 02:25:50 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2018, 02:19:02 PM
Tom Langdon had a medical at Sydney
Freo are keen too. Sounds like the Syd and Freo offers are significantly more than the Pies offer

besides the fact Ed is @ Freo, surely Swans > Dockers

:P

Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2018, 03:38:39 PM
North's Cameron Joyce
We've had some more discussions with the Dees on Dom Tyson. He's indicated he's keen to play with us. And they're keen on Preuss as well so we're seeing how the deal can get done


I still have no idea why Preuss wouldn't want to go to a club where he'd be a number 1 ruck, or at very least a strong team with an older #1 ruck. Gawn is 26
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Mat0369 on October 10, 2018, 03:41:11 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2018, 03:38:39 PM
North's Cameron Joyce
We've had some more discussions with the Dees on Dom Tyson. He's indicated he's keen to play with us. And they're keen on Preuss as well so we're seeing how the deal can get done


I still have no idea why Preuss wouldn't want to go to a club where he'd be a number 1 ruck, or at very least a strong team with an older #1 ruck. Gawn is 26

He wants job security in terms of contract length. So basically he is happy doing what he is doing, he just wants to get paid. If I am a club that actually needs a ruck, I'm staying away from him. It's a pretty bad sign
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2018, 03:44:29 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 10, 2018, 03:41:11 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2018, 03:38:39 PM
North's Cameron Joyce
We've had some more discussions with the Dees on Dom Tyson. He's indicated he's keen to play with us. And they're keen on Preuss as well so we're seeing how the deal can get done


I still have no idea why Preuss wouldn't want to go to a club where he'd be a number 1 ruck, or at very least a strong team with an older #1 ruck. Gawn is 26

He wants job security in terms of contract length. So basically he is happy doing what he is doing, he just wants to get paid. If I am a club that actually needs a ruck, I'm staying away from him. It's a pretty bad sign
If true then he needs to back himself in. He can play a bit
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2018, 05:28:42 PM
HS reporting that Collingwood will be delisting Kayle Kirby
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2018, 05:50:19 PM
Aaron vandenBerg has put pen to paper, signing a new deal with the red + blue
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2018, 05:54:35 PM
Andy Otten and Cam Ellis-Yolmen have signed 1 year contract extensions
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Purple 77 on October 10, 2018, 06:26:33 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2018, 05:50:19 PM
Aaron vandenBerg has put pen to paper, signing a new deal with the red + blue

I'm actually over the moon about this! Very underrated!

Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SydneyRox on October 10, 2018, 06:46:59 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 10, 2018, 06:26:33 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2018, 05:50:19 PM
Aaron vandenBerg has put pen to paper, signing a new deal with the red + blue

I'm actually over the moon about this! Very underrated!

Must admit I am very disappointed.....
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Big Mac on October 10, 2018, 06:55:11 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 10, 2018, 06:26:33 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2018, 05:50:19 PM
Aaron vandenBerg has put pen to paper, signing a new deal with the red + blue

I'm actually over the moon about this! Very underrated!

<3 <3 <3
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2018, 07:10:23 PM
Trade paperwork officially lodged.

Carlton made an offer to Unrestricted Free Agent Alex Fasolo (Collingwood). Based on the player’s age and the contract offer, the AFL advised Collingwood the club would be eligible for a Third Round compensation selection, currently number 57.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 11, 2018, 09:03:25 AM
AFL site saying Beams is going to stun the Lions and ask for a trade back to the Pies  :o don't know if I can believe this one  ::)
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: nrich102 on October 11, 2018, 09:21:49 AM
Quote from: shaker on October 11, 2018, 09:03:25 AM
AFL site saying Beams is going to stun the Lions and ask for a trade back to the Pies  :o don't know if I can believe this one  ::)
Just Damo spinning crap
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: enzedder on October 11, 2018, 09:24:26 AM
Quote from: shaker on October 11, 2018, 09:03:25 AM
AFL site saying Beams is going to stun the Lions and ask for a trade back to the Pies  :o don't know if I can believe this one  ::)
Barrett looks like he has found a new target.
Steven isn't leaving the Saints.
Beams won't be leaving the Lions.
Barrett is a tosser.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 11, 2018, 09:48:11 AM
Quote from: enzedder on October 11, 2018, 09:24:26 AM
Quote from: shaker on October 11, 2018, 09:03:25 AM
AFL site saying Beams is going to stun the Lions and ask for a trade back to the Pies  :o don't know if I can believe this one  ::)
Barrett looks like he has found a new target.
Steven isn't leaving the Saints.
Beams won't be leaving the Lions.
Barrett is a tosser.
Agree plus the Pies seem to be struggling to give Langdon a decent contract think they would lose him if the Beams report was true.
Another is Neale so far I have read that he would be cool if the trade does not get done , that he won't be playing at Freo next year and there is no way he will be playing under Ross Lyon again ha ha can't all be true  ;)
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SilverLion on October 11, 2018, 09:51:07 AM
"I want to put an end to any speculation on my playing future. I will be seeing out my contract here."

Not sure what more he can say tbh.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ringo on October 11, 2018, 10:21:51 AM
Quote from: shaker on October 11, 2018, 09:48:11 AM
Quote from: enzedder on October 11, 2018, 09:24:26 AM
Quote from: shaker on October 11, 2018, 09:03:25 AM
AFL site saying Beams is going to stun the Lions and ask for a trade back to the Pies  :o don't know if I can believe this one  ::)
Barrett looks like he has found a new target.
Steven isn't leaving the Saints.
Beams won't be leaving the Lions.
Barrett is a tosser.
Agree plus the Pies seem to be struggling to give Langdon a decent contract think they would lose him if the Beams report was true.
Another is Neale so far I have read that he would be cool if the trade does not get done , that he won't be playing at Freo next year and there is no way he will be playing under Ross Lyon again ha ha can't all be true  ;)
Yep just another media hype as journalists and commentators try to get the exclusive deals this year so my policy is although I listen to rumours until they bear fruit or confirmed by players or managers they are just that. And shaker too many rumours flying around about Neale as well and some are just that as well.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SilverLion on October 11, 2018, 11:02:51 AM
Pick swap about to go down between Fremantle and Port Adelaide. Will leave Power with Fremantle's pick 6 and give the Dockers either 10 or 11 and a pick in the 20s. Plus other later selection changes. Will help unlock pursuit of Hogan/Lobb. Details @AFLcomau shortly.

https://twitter.com/cleary_mitch/status/1050162134133272576
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SilverLion on October 11, 2018, 11:35:02 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 11, 2018, 11:02:51 AM
Pick swap about to go down between Fremantle and Port Adelaide. Will leave Power with Fremantle's pick 6 and give the Dockers either 10 or 11 and a pick in the 20s. Plus other later selection changes. Will help unlock pursuit of Hogan/Lobb. Details @AFLcomau shortly.

https://twitter.com/cleary_mitch/status/1050162134133272576
DONE DEAL | Fremantle has traded its Rd 1 (6), and its Future Round Three Selection to Port Adelaide for its Rd 1 (11), Rd 2 (23), Rd 2 (30), Rd 3 (49) #NABTradeRadio

https://twitter.com/traderadio/status/1050168982022418433
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 11, 2018, 11:47:52 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 11, 2018, 11:35:02 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 11, 2018, 11:02:51 AM
Pick swap about to go down between Fremantle and Port Adelaide. Will leave Power with Fremantle's pick 6 and give the Dockers either 10 or 11 and a pick in the 20s. Plus other later selection changes. Will help unlock pursuit of Hogan/Lobb. Details @AFLcomau shortly.

https://twitter.com/cleary_mitch/status/1050162134133272576
DONE DEAL | Fremantle has traded its Rd 1 (6), and its Future Round Three Selection to Port Adelaide for its Rd 1 (11), Rd 2 (23), Rd 2 (30), Rd 3 (49) #NABTradeRadio

https://twitter.com/traderadio/status/1050168982022418433
It should all start rolling now. That bloody future 3rd rounder limits us now though. I was hoping we'd use a future first in the Hogan deal
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SilverLion on October 11, 2018, 01:45:45 PM
http://aflnation.com.au/2018/10/11/beams-not-requested-trade-lions-says-fagan/
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 11, 2018, 01:50:16 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 11, 2018, 01:45:45 PM
http://aflnation.com.au/2018/10/11/beams-not-requested-trade-lions-says-fagan/
Still nothing yet from Beams saying it's fake news ?
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Big Mac on October 11, 2018, 02:56:49 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 11, 2018, 01:50:16 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 11, 2018, 01:45:45 PM
http://aflnation.com.au/2018/10/11/beams-not-requested-trade-lions-says-fagan/
Still nothing yet from Beams saying it's fake news ?

He’s probably on holiday somewhere
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Mat0369 on October 11, 2018, 03:07:05 PM
Just listening to SEN and sounds like Beams news is fake

'Earlier this morning you said he has requested a trade'
'Well he hasn't, but he could'
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ringo on October 11, 2018, 03:14:16 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 11, 2018, 03:07:05 PM
Just listening to SEN and sounds like Beams news is fake

'Earlier this morning you said he has requested a trade'
'Well he hasn't, but he could'
basically I think if Collingwood give us Sidebottom for Beams it will be done  ;D seriously though I think that if Pies can not do a deal acceptable to Brisbane then he sees out his contract with Brisbane.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SilverLion on October 11, 2018, 05:38:52 PM
The Age is reporting that Dean Kent has been traded from Melbourne to the Saints for pick 65

#NABTradeRadio

https://twitter.com/traderadio/status/1050262083130904576
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: AaronKirk on October 11, 2018, 05:57:15 PM
According to Sam McClure now on trade radio Fremantle have put a "final" offer of pick 11 and 2019 2nd round pick for Hogan.

Melbourne obviously have laughed at it.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SilverLion on October 11, 2018, 06:12:33 PM
Peter Bell and Freo are just making the trade period difficult for everyone at this point.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 11, 2018, 07:05:02 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 11, 2018, 05:57:15 PM
According to Sam McClure now on trade radio Fremantle have put a "final" offer of pick 11 and 2019 2nd round pick for Hogan.

Melbourne obviously have laughed at it.
That's worse than the Lions offer for Neale , until the Lions up there offer for Neale so that trade can be done Freo won't be able to up there offer for Hogan , a mexican standoff but still plenty of time go.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Purple 77 on October 11, 2018, 08:03:45 PM
Good lord, what a bunch of amateurs.

What an embarrassing offer.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SydneyRox on October 11, 2018, 08:05:06 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 11, 2018, 06:12:33 PM
Peter Bell and Freo are just making the trade period difficult for everyone at this point.

Bell is the new Adrian Dodoro!! :)

Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SilverLion on October 11, 2018, 08:09:25 PM
Breaking - Ryan Burton has been placed on the table by the Hawks in the offer to Port for Chad Wingard. He's contracted, and overseas at the moment. Set to weigh the opportunity. More soon @AFLcomau

https://twitter.com/cleary_mitch/status/1050298462145638400
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Purple 77 on October 11, 2018, 08:19:51 PM
Boy, that is just huge.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SydneyRox on October 11, 2018, 08:29:04 PM


yeah, like WOW!!

Stop chasing Langdon and go for Burton Sydney!!

Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 11, 2018, 09:55:11 PM
Wingard has officially requested a trade to Hawthorn

Hawks have offered 2.5M over 4 years
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: AaronKirk on October 11, 2018, 10:14:57 PM
Burton being a South Australian obviously may be pissed at Hawthorn but gets a chance to go home.

Hawthorn get the midfielder they desperately need.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: TomK on October 12, 2018, 01:04:58 AM
classic Port, trading a bloke who doesn't wanna be at Alberton for a bloke who doesn't wanna be at Alberton
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: AaronKirk on October 12, 2018, 03:53:02 AM
Who hypothetically would want Ryan Burton and give Port that high pick that they want to the package to the Suns to get 2 and 3?

Maybe Burton doesn't end up at Port Adelaide. Maybe another club with a top 10 pick would like Burton then Port get that pick and Hawthorn's other first rounder for Wingard.

They Port then trade up the order and take Jack Lukosius and Izak Rankine in the draft who they definitely want.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: TomK on October 12, 2018, 04:06:56 AM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 12, 2018, 03:53:02 AM
Who hypothetically would want Ryan Burton and give Port that high pick that they want to the package to the Suns to get 2 and 3?

Maybe Burton doesn't end up at Port Adelaide. Maybe another club with a top 10 pick would like Burton then Port get that pick and Hawthorn's other first rounder for Wingard.

They Port then trade up the order and take Jack Lukosius and Izak Rankine in the draft who they definitely want.
Suns aren't trading 2 and 3
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ringo on October 12, 2018, 09:14:09 AM
The last paragraph from Brisbane may be the cause of some of the rumour.

"BRISBANE says a report linking Dayne Beams to Collingwood is re-heated soup and it has heard nothing from the player or the Magpies about a potential trade.

When the latest rumours linking Beams back to Collingwood broke the Lions made contact with his manager, Paul Connors, who assured the club Beams had not spoken to him about requesting a trade.

However, his stated position with Brisbane in meetings with CEO Greg Swann and football manager David Noble was that he would not ask to be traded, but if the club identified a deal it was interested in, he would be happy to return before his contract expired."
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: nas on October 12, 2018, 10:05:36 AM
Hannebery now a Saint

The trade was confirmed on Friday morning with St Kilda giving up pick No.39 and its future second-round pick in return for Hannebery and pick No.28

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-10-11/dans-their-man-saints-land-swans-champ-hannebery
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: LaHug on October 12, 2018, 10:08:30 AM
Quote from: nas on October 12, 2018, 10:05:36 AM
Hannebery now a Saint

The trade was confirmed on Friday morning with St Kilda giving up pick No.39 and its future second-round pick in return for Hannebery and pick No.28

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-10-11/dans-their-man-saints-land-swans-champ-hannebery

That's a steal in terms of trade value. Probably paying him overs in salary though.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 12, 2018, 10:30:45 AM
happy as with that trade. good to be back into the second round this year
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: nas on October 12, 2018, 10:40:56 AM
Dean Kent has been traded from the Demons to the Saints in exchange for pick 65
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: enzedder on October 12, 2018, 10:53:24 AM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 12, 2018, 10:30:45 AM
happy as with that trade. good to be back into the second round this year
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: iZander on October 12, 2018, 10:56:37 AM
Preuss + 62 for Tyson, done deal
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 12, 2018, 10:56:38 AM
Tom $cully has requested a trade to Hawthorn
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 12, 2018, 10:58:51 AM
Reports are emerging that the Hawks are trying to bring Chad Wingard, Tom Scully and Gold Coast youngster Jack Scrimshaw without the need to sacrifice Ryan Burton.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Rusty00 on October 12, 2018, 11:12:35 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 12, 2018, 10:58:51 AM
Reports are emerging that the Hawks are trying to bring Chad Wingard, Tom Scully and Gold Coast youngster Jack Scrimshaw without the need to sacrifice Ryan Burton.
Time for Graham Wright to work some magic!
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Koop on October 12, 2018, 11:13:44 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 12, 2018, 10:58:51 AM
Reports are emerging that the Hawks are trying to bring Chad Wingard, Tom Scully and Gold Coast youngster Jack Scrimshaw without the need to sacrifice Ryan Burton.

Good luck, I don't see it happening.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SydneyRox on October 12, 2018, 11:15:36 AM
Quote from: LaHug on October 12, 2018, 10:08:30 AM
Quote from: nas on October 12, 2018, 10:05:36 AM
Hannebery now a Saint

The trade was confirmed on Friday morning with St Kilda giving up pick No.39 and its future second-round pick in return for Hannebery and pick No.28

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-10-11/dans-their-man-saints-land-swans-champ-hannebery

That's a steal in terms of trade value. Probably paying him overs in salary though.

I am not saying Hanners was worth round one or anything, but surely next years second round would have been enough, why are we giving them a pick up grade this year??

Must be desperate to move him on.

Thinking more and more we have lost the plot or planning something big for next year..... Josh Kelly
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 12, 2018, 11:25:53 AM
Please keep Burton
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 12, 2018, 11:54:26 AM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 12, 2018, 11:15:36 AM
Quote from: LaHug on October 12, 2018, 10:08:30 AM
Quote from: nas on October 12, 2018, 10:05:36 AM
Hannebery now a Saint

The trade was confirmed on Friday morning with St Kilda giving up pick No.39 and its future second-round pick in return for Hannebery and pick No.28

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-10-11/dans-their-man-saints-land-swans-champ-hannebery

That's a steal in terms of trade value. Probably paying him overs in salary though.

I am not saying Hanners was worth round one or anything, but surely next years second round would have been enough, why are we giving them a pick up grade this year??

Must be desperate to move him on.

Thinking more and more we have lost the plot or planning something big for next year..... Josh Kelly
Swans lost the plot when they got rid of Mitchell  ;D
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SilverLion on October 12, 2018, 12:12:34 PM
Rumours circulating that Brisbane has met with Adelaide to discuss the possibility of trading 5 for 8 and 13 or 16.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: nrich102 on October 12, 2018, 12:25:07 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 12, 2018, 12:12:34 PM
Rumours circulating that Brisbane has met with Adelaide to discuss the possibility of trading 5 for 8 and 13 or 16.
Would that satisfy Fremantle?
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SilverLion on October 12, 2018, 12:29:18 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 12, 2018, 12:25:07 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 12, 2018, 12:12:34 PM
Rumours circulating that Brisbane has met with Adelaide to discuss the possibility of trading 5 for 8 and 13 or 16.
Would that satisfy Fremantle?
Well apparently they wanted a pick in the teens, this seems like the only way we can get one. Up to them what they prefer haha.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 12, 2018, 01:07:17 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 12, 2018, 12:29:18 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 12, 2018, 12:25:07 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 12, 2018, 12:12:34 PM
Rumours circulating that Brisbane has met with Adelaide to discuss the possibility of trading 5 for 8 and 13 or 16.
Would that satisfy Fremantle?
Well apparently they wanted a pick in the teens, this seems like the only way we can get one. Up to them what they prefer haha.
I know the Crows would be keen to get a higher pick but can't see them giving up 2 1st round picks for 1 surely they would want something else ?
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SydneyRox on October 12, 2018, 01:09:53 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 12, 2018, 11:54:26 AM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 12, 2018, 11:15:36 AM
Quote from: LaHug on October 12, 2018, 10:08:30 AM
Quote from: nas on October 12, 2018, 10:05:36 AM
Hannebery now a Saint

The trade was confirmed on Friday morning with St Kilda giving up pick No.39 and its future second-round pick in return for Hannebery and pick No.28

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-10-11/dans-their-man-saints-land-swans-champ-hannebery

That's a steal in terms of trade value. Probably paying him overs in salary though.

I am not saying Hanners was worth round one or anything, but surely next years second round would have been enough, why are we giving them a pick up grade this year??

Must be desperate to move him on.

Thinking more and more we have lost the plot or planning something big for next year..... Josh Kelly
Swans lost the plot when they got rid of Mitchell  ;D

yeah, I dont think they had all that much choice there, but we surely got robbed, Mitchell wasnt exactly given the same freedom at the swans he gets at the Hawks, but at the time I said they should be paying more for Mitchell than Omeara

Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 12, 2018, 01:19:08 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 12, 2018, 01:09:53 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 12, 2018, 11:54:26 AM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 12, 2018, 11:15:36 AM
Quote from: LaHug on October 12, 2018, 10:08:30 AM
Quote from: nas on October 12, 2018, 10:05:36 AM
Hannebery now a Saint

The trade was confirmed on Friday morning with St Kilda giving up pick No.39 and its future second-round pick in return for Hannebery and pick No.28

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-10-11/dans-their-man-saints-land-swans-champ-hannebery

That's a steal in terms of trade value. Probably paying him overs in salary though.

I am not saying Hanners was worth round one or anything, but surely next years second round would have been enough, why are we giving them a pick up grade this year??

Must be desperate to move him on.

Thinking more and more we have lost the plot or planning something big for next year..... Josh Kelly
Swans lost the plot when they got rid of Mitchell  ;D

yeah, I dont think they had all that much choice there, but we surely got robbed, Mitchell wasnt exactly given the same freedom at the swans he gets at the Hawks, but at the time I said they should be paying more for Mitchell than Omeara


Swans midfield was one of the more dominant ones 2 or 3 years back but with Hanners going it's starting to look a bit thin and if Hanners can get back to his best it will be painful to watch him and Mitchell burning it up.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 12, 2018, 01:38:21 PM
GEELONG has shored up its ruck stocks with confirmation Rhys Stanley and Ryan Abbott have inked new deals.

As revealed by afl.com.au last month, Abbott and Stanley have both signed two-year extensions until the end of 2020.

Rookies Sam Simpson (two years) and Jamaine Jones (one year) have also signed extensions.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: TomK on October 12, 2018, 01:42:40 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 12, 2018, 01:07:17 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 12, 2018, 12:29:18 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 12, 2018, 12:25:07 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 12, 2018, 12:12:34 PM
Rumours circulating that Brisbane has met with Adelaide to discuss the possibility of trading 5 for 8 and 13 or 16.
Would that satisfy Fremantle?
Well apparently they wanted a pick in the teens, this seems like the only way we can get one. Up to them what they prefer haha.
I know the Crows would be keen to get a higher pick but can't see them giving up 2 1st round picks for 1 surely they would want something else ?
I'd hope so, I don't wanna trade 8 at all though unless it was for 4.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SydneyRox on October 12, 2018, 02:22:56 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 12, 2018, 01:19:08 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 12, 2018, 01:09:53 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 12, 2018, 11:54:26 AM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 12, 2018, 11:15:36 AM
Quote from: LaHug on October 12, 2018, 10:08:30 AM
Quote from: nas on October 12, 2018, 10:05:36 AM
Hannebery now a Saint

The trade was confirmed on Friday morning with St Kilda giving up pick No.39 and its future second-round pick in return for Hannebery and pick No.28

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-10-11/dans-their-man-saints-land-swans-champ-hannebery

That's a steal in terms of trade value. Probably paying him overs in salary though.

I am not saying Hanners was worth round one or anything, but surely next years second round would have been enough, why are we giving them a pick up grade this year??

Must be desperate to move him on.

Thinking more and more we have lost the plot or planning something big for next year..... Josh Kelly
Swans lost the plot when they got rid of Mitchell  ;D

yeah, I dont think they had all that much choice there, but we surely got robbed, Mitchell wasnt exactly given the same freedom at the swans he gets at the Hawks, but at the time I said they should be paying more for Mitchell than Omeara


Swans midfield was one of the more dominant ones 2 or 3 years back but with Hanners going it's starting to look a bit thin and if Hanners can get back to his best it will be painful to watch him and Mitchell burning it up.

yeah, that would be a nightmare!! esp hanners, he has always been a favourite.

Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 12, 2018, 02:50:10 PM
Setterfield to Carlton for a future 2nd rounder should get done soon according to afl.com.au
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: _wato on October 12, 2018, 03:06:49 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 12, 2018, 02:50:10 PM
Setterfield to Carlton for a future 2nd rounder should get done soon according to afl.com.au

What a flowering steal
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Gigantor on October 12, 2018, 04:11:17 PM
https://thewest.com.au/sport/afl-trades/afl-trades-2018-fremantle-pull-out-of-the-jesse-hogan-deal-ng-b88989324z

Jesse in WC colours in 2020 is happening  ;D
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 12, 2018, 04:17:44 PM
Freo a joke
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 12, 2018, 04:22:38 PM
The GIANTS have received pick 43 and a future second-round pick from Carlton in exchange for midfielder Will Settefield and pick 71
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Gigantor on October 12, 2018, 04:28:05 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 12, 2018, 04:17:44 PM
Freo a joke

Rumours are at 23 Ross still counts him as a kid so didn't want to give up high draft picks for someone he wouldn't give a game to...
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 12, 2018, 04:38:24 PM
We'll end up getting him. Belly is just putting it back on Melb because they were looking to move him on to get May.
It's only Friday, it'll happen
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Purple 77 on October 12, 2018, 04:41:34 PM
Hahahaha.

What a bunch of amateurs!

I seriously don't believe Freo have withdrawn their interest, what a see-through ploy at trying to get him cheaper.

And if it really is true... you're seriously going to let your ONLY opportunity since Pavlich-twilight years to land the key forward you've been crying out for? Goodness me. I hope Pick 5 is everything you hope for.

Absolute joke.

But also... YES! May is overrated, and Jesse SEVERELY underrated. Stoked he is staying :D :D
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SilverLion on October 12, 2018, 04:44:53 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 11, 2018, 08:05:06 PM
Bell is the new Adrian Dodoro!! :)
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Purple 77 on October 12, 2018, 04:46:39 PM
I wonder if Bell has realised Jesse isn't a free agent next year? A lot still haven't after all :-X
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: iZander on October 12, 2018, 04:52:48 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 12, 2018, 04:44:53 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 11, 2018, 08:05:06 PM
Bell is the new Adrian Dodoro!! :)
Big raps for a guy who’s been in charge such a short time!!! ;)
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Big Mac on October 12, 2018, 04:56:17 PM
Hahahaha hope Hoges kicks 10 against Freo next year
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SydneyRox on October 12, 2018, 05:05:11 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 12, 2018, 04:52:48 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 12, 2018, 04:44:53 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 11, 2018, 08:05:06 PM
Bell is the new Adrian Dodoro!! :)
Big raps for a guy who’s been in charge such a short time!!! ;)

Even if his hardline pays off this year, clubs are not going to want to deal with him if this is how he behaves.

Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Purple 77 on October 12, 2018, 09:51:35 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 12, 2018, 05:05:11 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 12, 2018, 04:52:48 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 12, 2018, 04:44:53 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 11, 2018, 08:05:06 PM
Bell is the new Adrian Dodoro!! :)
Big raps for a guy who’s been in charge such a short time!!! ;)

Even if his hardline pays off this year, clubs are not going to want to deal with him if this is how he behaves.



Absolutely.

Freo, having recruited some good young mids to play alongside Fyfe, now have the chance to set up their spine for years to come with Hogan and Lobb both keen to play there next year.

They proceed to treat both players, and their respective clubs, with total disrespect.

It sends a bad signal to any player who wants to go there in the future, and will turn off clubs when dealing with them in the future. 

Horrible stuff from a currently poorly run club.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 12, 2018, 10:15:31 PM
Ha the hate everywhere is real atm ;D


The way I see it is...
Melb initially wanted two first rounders (may have even seen two top 10 picks)
Freo offered 11 and a 2nd rounder
Both are obviously a little off (Melb have now apparently said they would taken 6 and a 2nd rounder which is probs about right imo)

Bell has been consistent in wanting to convince Neale to stay
Melb want pick 5 in the Neale compo involved
Freo don't have 5 atm and if they're trying to convince Neale to stay, then can't use it in an offer

Freo have walked away with Bell stating that what "Melb would be seeking for a trade would not be possible for our club to meet"
Rosich added after that they still wanted Hogan but not at Melbourne's price.

Until Bell concede's that he cannot convince Neale to stay, then they cannot use #6 in a trade for Hogan,
So there's no point continuing discussion with Melb until that happens, or Melb drop their offer. The former is most likely imo

Remember we have a lot going on with other moving parts. Lobb needs to come in for a late teens/early 20s pick, there's Tom Langdon and apparently we're still looking into Kelly,

It's only Friday. There's plenty more to play out. I'm sure it'll happen :)
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 12, 2018, 10:27:10 PM
Surely Lobb is worth more than a late teens early 20's pick?

And Kelly's manager has said for the second time today that Kelly doesn't want to go to Freo at all. He'll stay at Geelong for another year if he can't get to WCE

If Neale is saying he wants to go, then just get it all done already

Hogan and Lobb to Freo, Neale to Brisbane and May to Melbourne (although I don't understand why they want him so bad)
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Purple 77 on October 12, 2018, 10:28:46 PM
Then freo should offer next year's first rounder + 11 for hoges. For goodness sake, he's worth two first rounders every day of the week.

I can't stamp my feet up and down dramatically enough! :P
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 12, 2018, 10:34:21 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 12, 2018, 10:27:10 PM
Surely Lobb is worth more than a late teens early 20's pick?
Most the stuff I have seen has been GWS wanting just inside the top 20. We have 23 atm

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 12, 2018, 10:27:10 PM
And Kelly's manager has said for the second time today that Kelly doesn't want to go to Freo at all. He'll stay at Geelong for another year if he can't get to WCE
Kelly's manager is a dick  :P He only has a handful of AFL clients and has a vendetta against Freo for a few reasons.

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 12, 2018, 10:27:10 PM
If Neale is saying he wants to go, then just get it all done already
We don't know what's happening behind closed doors with Bell and Neale. But yes if Neale is 100% and Bell can't convince him then it'll get done.



Quote from: Purple 77 on October 12, 2018, 10:28:46 PM
Then freo should offer next year's first rounder + 11 for hoges
I've thought this would be the deal from day 1 mate. Find it weird that it hasn't come up much as an option
We've traded a future 3rd so we'd have to get one back in to do it, but it seems like the obvious deal imo
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 12, 2018, 10:37:46 PM
Yeah I'm aware Kelly's manager doesn't get along with Freo, but in an interview today he actually acknowledged that and said Tim has told him he'll stay at Geelong if he can't get to WCE as he won't play for a bottom side. His words apparently

Freo have been looking for a forward for 7 years, and now they finally have 2 that actually want to come and play with them. They'd be crazy to let either of them slip
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 12, 2018, 10:41:18 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 12, 2018, 10:37:46 PM
Yeah I'm aware Kelly's manager doesn't get along with Freo, but in an interview today he actually acknowledged that and said Tim has told him he'll stay at Geelong if he can't get to WCE as he won't play for a bottom side. His words apparently

Freo have been looking for a forward for 7 years, and now they finally have 2 that actually want to come and play with them. They'd be crazy to let either of them slip
But but but he's home sick isn't he?? Haha nah i get it. If i didn't like a club or have something against its ppl there, i wouldn't want to go there either.


Like i said, it's Friday so plenty of time to sort it. Just about all the trades last year happened in the last few days. We've been spoilt this year :P
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 12, 2018, 11:02:54 PM
Moving away from Freo for a sec :P



I cannot believe how bad GWS' salary cap issues are. There's Lobb, Shiel, Setterfield (who was supposedly on decent money), and also Scully, but now Jon Ralph is throwing up Jon Patton's name again.

How have they let it get to this
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SilverLion on October 13, 2018, 12:46:17 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 12, 2018, 10:15:31 PM
Ha the hate everywhere is real atm ;D


The way I see it is...
Melb initially wanted two first rounders (may have even seen two top 10 picks)
Freo offered 11 and a 2nd rounder
Both are obviously a little off (Melb have now apparently said they would taken 6 and a 2nd rounder which is probs about right imo)

Bell has been consistent in wanting to convince Neale to stay
Melb want pick 5 in the Neale compo involved
Freo don't have 5 atm and if they're trying to convince Neale to stay, then can't use it in an offer

Freo have walked away with Bell stating that what "Melb would be seeking for a trade would not be possible for our club to meet"
Rosich added after that they still wanted Hogan but not at Melbourne's price.

Until Bell concede's that he cannot convince Neale to stay, then they cannot use #6 in a trade for Hogan,
So there's no point continuing discussion with Melb until that happens, or Melb drop their offer. The former is most likely imo

Remember we have a lot going on with other moving parts. Lobb needs to come in for a late teens/early 20s pick, there's Tom Langdon and apparently we're still looking into Kelly,

It's only Friday. There's plenty more to play out. I'm sure it'll happen :)
Bell has come out and said that it would be a "feather in his cap" if he could convince Neale to stay, which to me sends such a bad message. Seems like Bell is treating him more so as a trophy for his reputation, rather than wanting to keep him for the right reasons.

He is delusional if he truly believes he can walk in as CEO and have one conversation with a player and that he will be able to change their mind on a career defining decision. In addition, if he is prioritising trying to keep a player who doesn't want to be there rather than be willing to bring in a player who does then he has his priorities wrong. Neale wants to go, let him go, don't be stubborn and spend the whole trade period trying to convince him to stay as it will (if it hasn't already) cost them.

This, on top of offering unders for Hogan and asking overs for Neale is the reason theres so much hate coming their way. They are proving incredibly hard to deal with as they seem to want everything and be willing to give nothing.

Rant over.

Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 13, 2018, 08:59:16 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 13, 2018, 12:46:17 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 12, 2018, 10:15:31 PM
Ha the hate everywhere is real atm ;D


The way I see it is...
Melb initially wanted two first rounders (may have even seen two top 10 picks)
Freo offered 11 and a 2nd rounder
Both are obviously a little off (Melb have now apparently said they would taken 6 and a 2nd rounder which is probs about right imo)

Bell has been consistent in wanting to convince Neale to stay
Melb want pick 5 in the Neale compo involved
Freo don't have 5 atm and if they're trying to convince Neale to stay, then can't use it in an offer

Freo have walked away with Bell stating that what "Melb would be seeking for a trade would not be possible for our club to meet"
Rosich added after that they still wanted Hogan but not at Melbourne's price.

Until Bell concede's that he cannot convince Neale to stay, then they cannot use #6 in a trade for Hogan,
So there's no point continuing discussion with Melb until that happens, or Melb drop their offer. The former is most likely imo

Remember we have a lot going on with other moving parts. Lobb needs to come in for a late teens/early 20s pick, there's Tom Langdon and apparently we're still looking into Kelly,

It's only Friday. There's plenty more to play out. I'm sure it'll happen :)
Bell has come out and said that it would be a "feather in his cap" if he could convince Neale to stay, which to me sends such a bad message. Seems like Bell is treating him more so as a trophy for his reputation, rather than wanting to keep him for the right reasons.

He is delusional if he truly believes he can walk in as CEO and have one conversation with a player and that he will be able to change their mind on a career defining decision. In addition, if he is prioritising trying to keep a player who doesn't want to be there rather than be willing to bring in a player who does then he has his priorities wrong. Neale wants to go, let him go, don't be stubborn and spend the whole trade period trying to convince him to stay as it will (if it hasn't already) cost them.

This, on top of offering unders for Hogan and asking overs for Neale is the reason theres so much hate coming their way. They are proving incredibly hard to deal with as they seem to want everything and be willing to give nothing.

Rant over.


Both Hogan and Neale are high quality contracted players and both are worth 2 first round picks every day of the week so if the Lions and Freo are not going to stop flowering around and offer due compensation this is going to drag on , there are 2 clubs that look like there are big problems firstly Freo there something not right about how it is being run and it all looks like off field to me I'm guessing Ross Lyon will not see out his contract.
The other is Port to a lesser extent but an exodus of quality players always rings alarm bells.

PS we won't incude GC and GWS because they are the AFL's new experiments  :D
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Nige on October 13, 2018, 10:34:35 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 12, 2018, 11:02:54 PM
Moving away from Freo for a sec :P



I cannot believe how bad GWS' salary cap issues are. There's Lobb, Shiel, Setterfield (who was supposedly on decent money), and also Scully, but now Jon Ralph is throwing up Jon Patton's name again.

How have they let it get to this
It’s crazy. They must have been paying a fair few players more than their worth to keep them around, but also back-loaded a lot of these contracts resulting in a really awkwardly timed cap squeeze.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 13, 2018, 10:38:04 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 13, 2018, 10:34:35 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 12, 2018, 11:02:54 PM
Moving away from Freo for a sec :P



I cannot believe how bad GWS' salary cap issues are. There's Lobb, Shiel, Setterfield (who was supposedly on decent money), and also Scully, but now Jon Ralph is throwing up Jon Patton's name again.

How have they let it get to this
It’s crazy. They must have been paying a fair few players more than their worth to keep them around, but also back-loaded a lot of these contracts resulting in a really awkwardly timed cap squeeze.

And Collingwood are still paying Shaw
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 13, 2018, 11:07:12 AM
Damien Barrett mentioned the whole Patton thing yesterday on Trade Radio

Ralph trying to claim it? hah,

Wayne Campbell basically hinted that they knew this day would come, so to speak
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 13, 2018, 12:30:37 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 13, 2018, 12:46:17 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 12, 2018, 10:15:31 PM
Ha the hate everywhere is real atm ;D


The way I see it is...
Melb initially wanted two first rounders (may have even seen two top 10 picks)
Freo offered 11 and a 2nd rounder
Both are obviously a little off (Melb have now apparently said they would taken 6 and a 2nd rounder which is probs about right imo)

Bell has been consistent in wanting to convince Neale to stay
Melb want pick 5 in the Neale compo involved
Freo don't have 5 atm and if they're trying to convince Neale to stay, then can't use it in an offer

Freo have walked away with Bell stating that what "Melb would be seeking for a trade would not be possible for our club to meet"
Rosich added after that they still wanted Hogan but not at Melbourne's price.

Until Bell concede's that he cannot convince Neale to stay, then they cannot use #6 in a trade for Hogan,
So there's no point continuing discussion with Melb until that happens, or Melb drop their offer. The former is most likely imo

Remember we have a lot going on with other moving parts. Lobb needs to come in for a late teens/early 20s pick, there's Tom Langdon and apparently we're still looking into Kelly,

It's only Friday. There's plenty more to play out. I'm sure it'll happen :)
Bell has come out and said that it would be a "feather in his cap" if he could convince Neale to stay, which to me sends such a bad message. Seems like Bell is treating him more so as a trophy for his reputation, rather than wanting to keep him for the right reasons.

He is delusional if he truly believes he can walk in as CEO and have one conversation with a player and that he will be able to change their mind on a career defining decision. In addition, if he is prioritising trying to keep a player who doesn't want to be there rather than be willing to bring in a player who does then he has his priorities wrong. Neale wants to go, let him go, don't be stubborn and spend the whole trade period trying to convince him to stay as it will (if it hasn't already) cost them.

This, on top of offering unders for Hogan and asking overs for Neale is the reason theres so much hate coming their way. They are proving incredibly hard to deal with as they seem to want everything and be willing to give nothing.

Rant over.
Can't agree with much of that at all sorry mate

It's ridiculous how much the "feather in my cap" comment has blown up towards Bell. It was simply showing his intent to try and keep Neale. Bell is as far away from being all about himself than anybody.

The reasons that Neale wants to leave are fixable.

Neale is a dual Doig Medallist. Of course they're going to prioritize him over others if they think he's retainable. He's been your boy for so many years already, he's the #1 priority. It'd be disrespectful not to

That is until you think he's definitely gone. Something that you or I wouldn't know at this stage.


On the offer. There's always 2 sides to a story. Maybe Jesse's foot is buggered
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SilverLion on October 13, 2018, 12:40:55 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 13, 2018, 12:30:37 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 13, 2018, 12:46:17 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 12, 2018, 10:15:31 PM
Ha the hate everywhere is real atm ;D


The way I see it is...
Melb initially wanted two first rounders (may have even seen two top 10 picks)
Freo offered 11 and a 2nd rounder
Both are obviously a little off (Melb have now apparently said they would taken 6 and a 2nd rounder which is probs about right imo)

Bell has been consistent in wanting to convince Neale to stay
Melb want pick 5 in the Neale compo involved
Freo don't have 5 atm and if they're trying to convince Neale to stay, then can't use it in an offer

Freo have walked away with Bell stating that what "Melb would be seeking for a trade would not be possible for our club to meet"
Rosich added after that they still wanted Hogan but not at Melbourne's price.

Until Bell concede's that he cannot convince Neale to stay, then they cannot use #6 in a trade for Hogan,
So there's no point continuing discussion with Melb until that happens, or Melb drop their offer. The former is most likely imo

Remember we have a lot going on with other moving parts. Lobb needs to come in for a late teens/early 20s pick, there's Tom Langdon and apparently we're still looking into Kelly,

It's only Friday. There's plenty more to play out. I'm sure it'll happen :)
Bell has come out and said that it would be a "feather in his cap" if he could convince Neale to stay, which to me sends such a bad message. Seems like Bell is treating him more so as a trophy for his reputation, rather than wanting to keep him for the right reasons.

He is delusional if he truly believes he can walk in as CEO and have one conversation with a player and that he will be able to change their mind on a career defining decision. In addition, if he is prioritising trying to keep a player who doesn't want to be there rather than be willing to bring in a player who does then he has his priorities wrong. Neale wants to go, let him go, don't be stubborn and spend the whole trade period trying to convince him to stay as it will (if it hasn't already) cost them.

This, on top of offering unders for Hogan and asking overs for Neale is the reason theres so much hate coming their way. They are proving incredibly hard to deal with as they seem to want everything and be willing to give nothing.

Rant over.
Can't agree with much of that at all sorry mate

It's ridiculous how much the "feather in my cap" comment has blown up towards Bell. It was simply showing his intent to try and keep Neale. Bell is as far away from being all about himself than anybody.

The reasons that Neale wants to leave are fixable.

Neale is a dual Doig Medallist. Of course they're going to prioritize him over others if they think he's retainable. He's been your boy for so many years already, he's the #1 priority. It'd be disrespectful not to

That is until you think he's definitely gone. Something that you or I wouldn't know at this stage.


On the offer. There's always 2 sides to a story. Maybe Jesse's foot is buggered
All good mate, just goes to show how things can be interpreted differently by different people. Can see both sides to it. Wouldn't have hurt Bell to say "It would be great for the club and its supporters if he were to stay" or something like that, rather than what he did, but I guess he didn't expect it to blow up like it did. I think we all know Bell would not be that naive to make it all about him, but how he said it definitely can create that impression.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 13, 2018, 05:23:02 PM
Saints saying pick 4 could be up for grabs for the right deal to entice the Crows and Port to grab the standout SA young guns but it all seems a bit risky to me with GC having 2 and 3 , must be odds on that they will grab Lukosius and his schoolmate Rankine that's if the Blues go down the path that's been talked about plus there 4 other highly touted SA young guys so don't think it will happen ?
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: GoLions on October 13, 2018, 05:26:34 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 13, 2018, 05:23:02 PM
Saints saying pick 4 could be up for grabs for the right deal to entice the Crows and Port to grab the standout SA young guns but it all seems a bit risky to me with GC having 2 and 3 , must be odds on that they will grab Lukosius and his schoolmate Rankine that's if the Blues go down the path that's been talked about plus there 4 other highly touted SA young guys so don't think it will happen ?
One of Rankine, Lukosius, Rozee will be available at 4, possibly 5 or 6 depending on whether the Suns take the King brothers or Smith over the SA guys
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 13, 2018, 06:17:45 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 13, 2018, 05:26:34 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 13, 2018, 05:23:02 PM
Saints saying pick 4 could be up for grabs for the right deal to entice the Crows and Port to grab the standout SA young guns but it all seems a bit risky to me with GC having 2 and 3 , must be odds on that they will grab Lukosius and his schoolmate Rankine that's if the Blues go down the path that's been talked about plus there 4 other highly touted SA young guys so don't think it will happen ?
One of Rankine, Lukosius, Rozee will be available at 4, possibly 5 or 6 depending on whether the Suns take the King brothers or Smith over the SA guys
Taking two 200cm+ plus guys in this years bumper draft could be a bit risky but it is certainly a draft to look forward to
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 13, 2018, 07:03:27 PM
HS reporting that Roughead to Collingwood will be a done deal, for a late pick
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 13, 2018, 10:54:35 PM
Langdon staying with Collingwood
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SilverLion on October 14, 2018, 12:25:57 PM
Apparently Ryan Daniels from Channel 7 Perth reported that the Neale trade will be done as early as tomorrow.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 14, 2018, 12:40:17 PM
Herald Sun saying Lions still in the dark about Beams but figures familiar with the situation expect him to be back at the Pies before the trade deadline for draft picks if true surely the Lions will cough up what Freo is asking for Neale
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ringo on October 14, 2018, 06:05:56 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 14, 2018, 12:40:17 PM
Herald Sun saying Lions still in the dark about Beams but figures familiar with the situation expect him to be back at the Pies before the trade deadline for draft picks if true surely the Lions will cough up what Freo is asking for Neale
Beams manager still saying publicly that he has not requested a trade.  However the club itself may be trying to arrange something based on a comment I read last week and this was the last paragraph:
"However, his stated position with Brisbane in meetings with CEO Greg Swann and football manager David Noble was that he would not ask to be traded, but if the club identified a deal it was interested in, he would be happy to return before his contract expired." The big question is what have Collingwood got to offer that is acceptable.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 14, 2018, 06:07:26 PM
https://thewest.com.au/sport/fremantle-dockers/afl-trades-2018-fremantle-dockers-not-ruling-out-jesse-hogan-trade-ng-b88990275z


"It is understood Fremantle’s bombshell statement on Friday was prompted by an effective ultimatum from the Demons â€" for the Dockers to accept Melbourne’s terms or walk away. Fremantle chose to stand their ground and walk."
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 14, 2018, 09:48:04 PM
Heaps of chatter on twitter tonight about Beams deal being close
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SilverLion on October 15, 2018, 09:03:57 AM
Beams' manager on trade radio just before confirming that Beams is happy to see out his contract, but if a trade can be worked out that would be fair to Brisbane he would be open minded to it. He said that Beams wants to head home at the end of his contract anyway, so I suppose it makes sense to try and get a good deal for him now.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: GoLions on October 15, 2018, 09:09:32 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 15, 2018, 09:03:57 AM
Beams' manager on trade radio just before confirming that Beams is happy to see out his contract, but if a trade can be worked out that would be fair to Brisbane he would be open minded to it. He said that Beams wants to head home at the end of his contract anyway, so I suppose it makes sense to try and get a good deal for him now.
This is all old news, the entire thing has been a massive media beat up. Pies don't have the cattle to get a trade done so 90% chance at this stage he plays with us next year.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 15, 2018, 09:32:49 AM
Quote from: GoLions on October 15, 2018, 09:09:32 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 15, 2018, 09:03:57 AM
Beams' manager on trade radio just before confirming that Beams is happy to see out his contract, but if a trade can be worked out that would be fair to Brisbane he would be open minded to it. He said that Beams wants to head home at the end of his contract anyway, so I suppose it makes sense to try and get a good deal for him now.
This is all old news, the entire thing has been a massive media beat up. Pies don't have the cattle to get a trade done so 90% chance at this stage he plays with us next year.

But Beams is old and injury prone, only worth a 3rd rounder.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 15, 2018, 09:33:28 AM
Quote from: GoLions on October 15, 2018, 09:09:32 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 15, 2018, 09:03:57 AM
Beams' manager on trade radio just before confirming that Beams is happy to see out his contract, but if a trade can be worked out that would be fair to Brisbane he would be open minded to it. He said that Beams wants to head home at the end of his contract anyway, so I suppose it makes sense to try and get a good deal for him now.
This is all old news, the entire thing has been a massive media beat up. Pies don't have the cattle to get a trade done so 90% chance at this stage he plays with us next year.
I reckon 90% it will get done then you will be able to pay fair compo for Neale and Freo wil be able to satisfy the Dee's for Hogan although I don't know why Hogan wouldn't finish his contract , every chance of a flag in the next couple of years and basically zero chance at Freo  ;)
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ringo on October 15, 2018, 10:38:37 AM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 15, 2018, 09:32:49 AM
Quote from: GoLions on October 15, 2018, 09:09:32 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 15, 2018, 09:03:57 AM
Beams' manager on trade radio just before confirming that Beams is happy to see out his contract, but if a trade can be worked out that would be fair to Brisbane he would be open minded to it. He said that Beams wants to head home at the end of his contract anyway, so I suppose it makes sense to try and get a good deal for him now.
This is all old news, the entire thing has been a massive media beat up. Pies don't have the cattle to get a trade done so 90% chance at this stage he plays with us next year.

But Beams is old and injury prone, only worth a 3rd rounder.
Given Hawks are supposedly picking up Scully for a 3rd rounder as well. Know which one I would prefer as Beams has played more games than Scully over the last two years. Brisbane also paid overs to get Beams so it is fair to expect something decent in return.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 15, 2018, 10:47:28 AM
Quote from: Ringo on October 15, 2018, 10:38:37 AM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 15, 2018, 09:32:49 AM
Quote from: GoLions on October 15, 2018, 09:09:32 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 15, 2018, 09:03:57 AM
Beams' manager on trade radio just before confirming that Beams is happy to see out his contract, but if a trade can be worked out that would be fair to Brisbane he would be open minded to it. He said that Beams wants to head home at the end of his contract anyway, so I suppose it makes sense to try and get a good deal for him now.
This is all old news, the entire thing has been a massive media beat up. Pies don't have the cattle to get a trade done so 90% chance at this stage he plays with us next year.

But Beams is old and injury prone, only worth a 3rd rounder.
Given Hawks are supposedly picking up Scully for a 3rd rounder as well. Know which one I would prefer as Beams has played more games than Scully over the last two years. Brisbane also paid overs to get Beams so it is fair to expect something decent in return.

Beams is worth what Gibbs was worth.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 15, 2018, 02:10:27 PM
Jake Niall reporting that Collingwood's offer for Beams is #18 and a future 2nd
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 15, 2018, 02:14:53 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2018, 02:10:27 PM
Jake Niall reporting that Collingwood's offer for Beams is #18 and a future 2nd

Pretty much the best they can offer too, based on their current picks, outside of offering a player
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: GoLions on October 15, 2018, 02:26:22 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 15, 2018, 02:14:53 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2018, 02:10:27 PM
Jake Niall reporting that Collingwood's offer for Beams is #18 and a future 2nd

Pretty much the best they can offer too, based on their current picks, outside of offering a player
Well, they could offer a future first as well. We've already knocked it back.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 15, 2018, 02:29:12 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 15, 2018, 02:26:22 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 15, 2018, 02:14:53 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2018, 02:10:27 PM
Jake Niall reporting that Collingwood's offer for Beams is #18 and a future 2nd

Pretty much the best they can offer too, based on their current picks, outside of offering a player
Well, they could offer a future first as well. We've already knocked it back.

Two firsts for Beams is way too much though
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: GoLions on October 15, 2018, 02:30:20 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 15, 2018, 02:29:12 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 15, 2018, 02:26:22 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 15, 2018, 02:14:53 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2018, 02:10:27 PM
Jake Niall reporting that Collingwood's offer for Beams is #18 and a future 2nd

Pretty much the best they can offer too, based on their current picks, outside of offering a player
Well, they could offer a future first as well. We've already knocked it back.

Two firsts for Beams is way too much though
They're late firsts, absolutely no chance we would trade him for something like 18 + 40
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 15, 2018, 02:49:12 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 15, 2018, 02:29:12 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 15, 2018, 02:26:22 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 15, 2018, 02:14:53 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2018, 02:10:27 PM
Jake Niall reporting that Collingwood's offer for Beams is #18 and a future 2nd

Pretty much the best they can offer too, based on their current picks, outside of offering a player
Well, they could offer a future first as well. We've already knocked it back.

Two firsts for Beams is way too much though

Two firsts are bang on, and I'd lean towards higher firsts than 18 too.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 15, 2018, 02:56:37 PM
Yep if Coll isn't offering up players then 2x first will have to be involved imo
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 15, 2018, 03:01:38 PM
Yeah fair enough actually

I just looked at the Gibbs trade again and makes sense

I keep using the Treloar trade as precedence though, and because of the age gap I figured two firsts wouldn't be needed here but maybe they are

Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 15, 2018, 04:26:38 PM
Everyone except Neale is worth 2 first rounders ha ha  ::)
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 15, 2018, 04:30:47 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 15, 2018, 04:26:38 PM
Everyone except Neale is worth 2 first rounders ha ha  ::)

And Hogan  :P

Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: iZander on October 15, 2018, 04:33:46 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 15, 2018, 04:26:38 PM
Everyone except Neale is worth 2 first rounders ha ha  ::)
Not every first round pick is worth the same....
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: jvalles69 on October 15, 2018, 04:42:27 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 15, 2018, 04:30:47 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 15, 2018, 04:26:38 PM
Everyone except Neale is worth 2 first rounders ha ha  ::)

And Hogan  :P

No shower...  ::)
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 15, 2018, 04:53:31 PM
St Kilda has re-signed promising first-year players Ben Paton and Oscar Clavarino until the end of 2020

Richmond has re-signed emerging Tigers, Connor Menadue and Callum Moore, with the 22-year-olds inking new deals to remain at Tigerland next season.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Mat0369 on October 15, 2018, 06:23:49 PM
Byrne staying in Ireland and has retired. Turns out he also broke his ankle playing Gaelic Football
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 15, 2018, 07:15:02 PM
Had a bit of a laugh about Port warning GC about taking Lukosius or Rankine or both really what are they supposed to do just pick lesser kids from QLD with there high picks  ::) the best chance of QLD kid is McFadyen around the mid 20's pick and they have 19, 24, 29 to pick up these players so lets face it whoever they get with there high picks might want to go home so they may as well pick the best  ;)
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SydneyRox on October 15, 2018, 08:38:42 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 15, 2018, 07:15:02 PM
Had a bit of a laugh about Port warning GC about taking Lukosius or Rankine or both really what are they supposed to do just pick lesser kids from QLD with there high picks  ::) the best chance of QLD kid is McFadyen around the mid 20's pick and they have 19, 24, 29 to pick up these players so lets face it whoever they get with there high picks might want to go home so they may as well pick the best  ;)

it is clever though, making a statement like that, not only might they get in the head of people at GC, they have got a message to those kids as well....
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: LaHug on October 15, 2018, 11:28:54 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 15, 2018, 08:38:42 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 15, 2018, 07:15:02 PM
Had a bit of a laugh about Port warning GC about taking Lukosius or Rankine or both really what are they supposed to do just pick lesser kids from QLD with there high picks  ::) the best chance of QLD kid is McFadyen around the mid 20's pick and they have 19, 24, 29 to pick up these players so lets face it whoever they get with there high picks might want to go home so they may as well pick the best  ;)

it is clever though, making a statement like that, not only might they get in the head of people at GC, they have got a message to those kids as well....

So it's draft tampering then?
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Mat0369 on October 16, 2018, 02:17:17 AM
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/carlton-make-play-for-sydney-swans-defender-nic-newman-20181014-p509ku.html

Get er done. I've been pretty vocal on wanting Newman all off-season. Now with Byrne officially retired he has to be a priority. Hopefully he is happy to come in as a DFA
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SydneyRox on October 16, 2018, 10:53:33 AM
Quote from: LaHug on October 15, 2018, 11:28:54 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 15, 2018, 08:38:42 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 15, 2018, 07:15:02 PM
Had a bit of a laugh about Port warning GC about taking Lukosius or Rankine or both really what are they supposed to do just pick lesser kids from QLD with there high picks  ::) the best chance of QLD kid is McFadyen around the mid 20's pick and they have 19, 24, 29 to pick up these players so lets face it whoever they get with there high picks might want to go home so they may as well pick the best  ;)

it is clever though, making a statement like that, not only might they get in the head of people at GC, they have got a message to those kids as well....

So it's draft tampering then?

You could draw a long bow and say that, more so I would say its a result of free agency that means you will always be keeping an eye out for the 'home grown' talent to bring them home to your club. Go home factor has never been bigger.

Try telling me both Freo and West Coast dont know exactly what Patrick Cripps had for breakfast this morning....... :P

Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 16, 2018, 11:16:09 AM
Hall moves for Pick 68
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ringo on October 16, 2018, 11:33:54 AM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 16, 2018, 11:16:09 AM
Hall moves for Pick 68
Absolute steal for the Kangas but with their ins will he be best 22 and SC relevant?

And this interesting
Devon Smith averaged 79 #SuperCoach points in his final season at GWS. Aaron Hall averaged 79 points in his final season at the Suns.
Will he do a Devon Smith.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ringo on October 16, 2018, 11:37:01 AM
And another steal of a suns player

Gold Coast Suns have traded Jack Scrimshaw and its Future Round Four Selection to Hawthorn for its Future Round Three Selection.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 16, 2018, 11:55:27 AM
Quote from: Ringo on October 16, 2018, 11:33:54 AM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 16, 2018, 11:16:09 AM
Hall moves for Pick 68
Absolute steal for the Kangas but with their ins will he be best 22 and SC relevant?

And this interesting
Devon Smith averaged 79 #SuperCoach points in his final season at GWS. Aaron Hall averaged 79 points in his final season at the Suns.
Will he do a Devon Smith.

No lol
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SilverLion on October 16, 2018, 11:56:21 AM
GC having a fire sale too?
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SydneyRox on October 16, 2018, 12:05:53 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 16, 2018, 11:37:01 AM
And another steal of a suns player

Gold Coast Suns have traded Jack Scrimshaw and its Future Round Four Selection to Hawthorn for its Future Round Three Selection.

Hows this? (from Jon Ralph)

Suns gave up Dion Prestia for pick 6 (which slid to pick 7 when Gws matched a bid for Setterfield)
Suns picked Jack Scrimshaw, who hasn't settled or performed
Scrimshaw now gone for a swap of 3rd and 4th round picks.

So essentially lost Prestia for nothing.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 16, 2018, 12:15:04 PM
Huge trade here

Gold Coast Suns has traded its Rd 4 selection, currently selection number 68 (on traded from North Melbourne) to the Adelaide Crows for its Future Round Four Selection.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SydneyRox on October 16, 2018, 12:22:02 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 16, 2018, 12:15:04 PM
Huge trade here

Gold Coast Suns has traded its Rd 4 selection, currently selection number 68 (on traded from North Melbourne) to the Adelaide Crows for its Future Round Four Selection.

what tha? Essentially GC helping Crows get points into this years draft?

Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: GoLions on October 16, 2018, 12:22:49 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 16, 2018, 12:22:02 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 16, 2018, 12:15:04 PM
Huge trade here

Gold Coast Suns has traded its Rd 4 selection, currently selection number 68 (on traded from North Melbourne) to the Adelaide Crows for its Future Round Four Selection.

what tha? Essentially GC helping Crows get points into this years draft?
Or for Stengle trade, and hoping Crows stay bottom 8 again next year
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 16, 2018, 12:38:16 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 16, 2018, 12:22:49 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 16, 2018, 12:22:02 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 16, 2018, 12:15:04 PM
Huge trade here

Gold Coast Suns has traded its Rd 4 selection, currently selection number 68 (on traded from North Melbourne) to the Adelaide Crows for its Future Round Four Selection.

what tha? Essentially GC helping Crows get points into this years draft?
Or for Stengle trade, and hoping Crows stay bottom 8 again next year
Yep for Stengle I would guess
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 16, 2018, 01:30:46 PM
FRINGE Geelong midfielder George Horlin-Smith has joined Gold Coast.

The Suns gave up pick No.59 in this year's NAB AFL Draft for him.

The Crows and Tigers have agreed to trade Tyson Stengle for pick 68. Deal to be made official later today
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ringo on October 16, 2018, 01:37:06 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 16, 2018, 01:30:46 PM
FRINGE Geelong midfielder George Horlin-Smith has joined Gold Coast.

The Suns gave up pick No.59 in this year's NAB AFL Draft for him.

The Crows and Tigers have agreed to trade Tyson Stengle for pick 68. Deal to be made official later today
George Horlin Smith is worth more than Aaron Hall.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ringo on October 16, 2018, 01:38:54 PM
And this signing by the Suns.
Gold Coast have signed Sam Collins as one of their special assistance players. Collins is a former Fremantle defender who spent this year in the VFL playing for Werribee.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: LaHug on October 16, 2018, 01:47:28 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 16, 2018, 10:53:33 AM
Quote from: LaHug on October 15, 2018, 11:28:54 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 15, 2018, 08:38:42 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 15, 2018, 07:15:02 PM
Had a bit of a laugh about Port warning GC about taking Lukosius or Rankine or both really what are they supposed to do just pick lesser kids from QLD with there high picks  ::) the best chance of QLD kid is McFadyen around the mid 20's pick and they have 19, 24, 29 to pick up these players so lets face it whoever they get with there high picks might want to go home so they may as well pick the best  ;)

it is clever though, making a statement like that, not only might they get in the head of people at GC, they have got a message to those kids as well....

So it's draft tampering then?

You could draw a long bow and say that, more so I would say its a result of free agency that means you will always be keeping an eye out for the 'home grown' talent to bring them home to your club. Go home factor has never been bigger.

Try telling me both Freo and West Coast dont know exactly what Patrick Cripps had for breakfast this morning....... :P

It's more about making a pre-draft statement to deter a team picking up the players you want. There's a difference between eyeing off a contracted player and telling people pre-draft that you'll pick them up the moment they're out of contract. Not saying it's definitely draft tampering but it's certainly a bad look...
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 16, 2018, 01:51:41 PM
Cats not expecting Kelly trade to get done , I think 2 early 2nd round picks is a good offer for him in a bumper draft Cats lose if his form drops off because he can't go home.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: iZander on October 16, 2018, 01:54:15 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 16, 2018, 01:51:41 PM
Cats not expecting Kelly trade to get done , I think 2 early 2nd round picks is a good offer for him in a bumper draft Cats lose if his form drops off because he can't go home.
He wont drop off cause "he cant go home". This isnt a trade due to going home, its just him wanting to get to WC. If he wanted to go home he wouldnt say he doesnt want to go to Freo.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 16, 2018, 01:55:26 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 16, 2018, 01:51:41 PM
Cats not expecting Kelly trade to get done , I think 2 early 2nd round picks is a good offer for him in a bumper draft Cats lose if his form drops off because he can't go home.

Yeah seems a bit odd, 20+22 could land then two good kids who could potentially be long time servants of the club

As good as Kelly is, if you know he isn't going to be around in 12 months time, seems a bit silly to pass on those two picks, but maybe they think they can get more next year?
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 16, 2018, 01:57:21 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 16, 2018, 01:54:15 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 16, 2018, 01:51:41 PM
Cats not expecting Kelly trade to get done , I think 2 early 2nd round picks is a good offer for him in a bumper draft Cats lose if his form drops off because he can't go home.
He wont drop off cause "he cant go home". This isnt a trade due to going home, its just him wanting to get to WC. If he wanted to go home he wouldnt say he doesnt want to go to Freo.

It's def a trade wanting to go home, but 1 more year isn't going to kill them. I'd rather stick out 1 more year with a good club knowing that I can get to my preferred destination in 12 months time opposed to leaving now and playing the rest of my career in a side I don't want to play for
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 16, 2018, 02:09:22 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 16, 2018, 01:57:21 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 16, 2018, 01:54:15 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 16, 2018, 01:51:41 PM
Cats not expecting Kelly trade to get done , I think 2 early 2nd round picks is a good offer for him in a bumper draft Cats lose if his form drops off because he can't go home.
He wont drop off cause "he cant go home". This isnt a trade due to going home, its just him wanting to get to WC. If he wanted to go home he wouldnt say he doesnt want to go to Freo.

It's def a trade wanting to go home, but 1 more year isn't going to kill them. I'd rather stick out 1 more year with a good club knowing that I can get to my preferred destination in 12 months time opposed to leaving now and playing the rest of my career in a side I don't want to play for
Yep he definitely wants home and Freo not to enticing ATM a lot of clubs would love picks 20 and 22 in this draft  ;)
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: jvalles69 on October 16, 2018, 02:13:13 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 16, 2018, 01:57:21 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 16, 2018, 01:54:15 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 16, 2018, 01:51:41 PM
Cats not expecting Kelly trade to get done , I think 2 early 2nd round picks is a good offer for him in a bumper draft Cats lose if his form drops off because he can't go home.
He wont drop off cause "he cant go home". This isnt a trade due to going home, its just him wanting to get to WC. If he wanted to go home he wouldnt say he doesnt want to go to Freo.

It's def a trade wanting to go home, but 1 more year isn't going to kill them. I'd rather stick out 1 more year with a good club knowing that I can get to my preferred destination in 12 months time opposed to leaving now and playing the rest of my career in a side I don't want to play for

Agree.

What is Lloyd talking about, Geelong should look at Shuey or Sheed for Kelly?!?  WTF is he smoking, we don't NEED Kelly and wouldn't think we'd give any current player up for him (maybe Nelson), we are just entertaining that he WANTS to come play for us.  These morons really need to get replaced with ppl who know what they are talking about...
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 16, 2018, 02:15:45 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 16, 2018, 01:55:26 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 16, 2018, 01:51:41 PM
Cats not expecting Kelly trade to get done , I think 2 early 2nd round picks is a good offer for him in a bumper draft Cats lose if his form drops off because he can't go home.

Yeah seems a bit odd, 20+22 could land then two good kids who could potentially be long time servants of the club

As good as Kelly is, if you know he isn't going to be around in 12 months time, seems a bit silly to pass on those two picks, but maybe they think they can get more next year?
Maybe they have there eye on someone top 10 but can't really see them getting more just because the quality of this years draft unless he wins the Brownlow  ;D
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 16, 2018, 03:22:39 PM
Collingwood has announced a number of new contracts with injury-prone forward Jamie Elliott and defender Lynden Dunn among them.

The Pies have now confirmed the following re-signings:

Jamie Elliott - one year
Lynden Dunn - one year
Darcy Moore - two years
Tom Langdon - three years
Flynn Appleby - two years
Tim Broomhead - one year
Josh Thomas - three years
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: jvalles69 on October 16, 2018, 03:23:01 PM
I keep getting excited when I hear Tyson Stengle, because I think it's Tyson Stenglein making a resurgence.  :P
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Menzel Washington on October 16, 2018, 03:31:04 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 16, 2018, 03:23:01 PM
I keep getting excited when I hear Tyson Stengle, because I think it's Tyson Stenglein making a resurgence.  :P
Just wait when he plays his first match and the line ups are announced... Tyson Stengle(in)  ;D
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: jvalles69 on October 16, 2018, 03:42:05 PM
Quote from: Menzel Washington on October 16, 2018, 03:31:04 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 16, 2018, 03:23:01 PM
I keep getting excited when I hear Tyson Stengle, because I think it's Tyson Stenglein making a resurgence.  :P
Just wait when he plays his first match and the line ups are announced... Tyson Stengle(in)  ;D

Bahahahaha!  ;D
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: jvalles69 on October 16, 2018, 04:33:16 PM
Pretty much spot on re the Tim Kelly situation.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/are-picks-20-and-22-enough-for-geelong-s-tim-kelly-20181016-p509wg.html
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: AaronKirk on October 16, 2018, 05:43:05 PM
Paperwork about to be lodged for the Scully to Hawthorn deal.

The trade I believe is for the 2019 future 4th round pick the Hawks got earlier from the Gold Coast.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 16, 2018, 05:52:49 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 16, 2018, 05:43:05 PM
Paperwork about to be lodged for the Scully to Hawthorn deal.

The trade I believe is for the 2019 future 4th round pick the Hawks got earlier from the Gold Coast.

It's official

Unbelievable how Hawthorn land Scully and Scrimshaw for nothing

ST KILDA has signed young rookies Darragh Joyce and Doulton Langlands to new one-year deals for 2019.

The deal to send Taylor Duryea from Hawthorn to the Western Bulldogs is done.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: AaronKirk on October 16, 2018, 06:09:17 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 16, 2018, 05:52:49 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 16, 2018, 05:43:05 PM
Paperwork about to be lodged for the Scully to Hawthorn deal.

The trade I believe is for the 2019 future 4th round pick the Hawks got earlier from the Gold Coast.

It's official

Unbelievable how Hawthorn land Scully and Scrimshaw for nothing

ST KILDA has signed young rookies Darragh Joyce and Doulton Langlands to new one-year deals for 2019.

The deal to send Taylor Duryea from Hawthorn to the Western Bulldogs is done.

Duryea to Bulldogs for a future 4th round pick
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SilverLion on October 16, 2018, 06:29:18 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 16, 2018, 05:43:05 PM
Paperwork about to be lodged for the Scully to Hawthorn deal.

The trade I believe is for the 2019 future 4th round pick the Hawks got earlier from the Gold Coast.
AFL has to intervene on this. Is in no way anywhere remotely close to a fair deal.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: AaronKirk on October 16, 2018, 06:50:02 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 16, 2018, 06:29:18 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 16, 2018, 05:43:05 PM
Paperwork about to be lodged for the Scully to Hawthorn deal.

The trade I believe is for the 2019 future 4th round pick the Hawks got earlier from the Gold Coast.
AFL has to intervene on this. Is in no way anywhere remotely close to a fair deal.

Why?

If his ankle doesn't get better he may never play another game.

Would be surprised if he played in 2019 and GWS have salary cap issues and needed to just get rid of his salary off their books.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: enzedder on October 16, 2018, 06:50:52 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 16, 2018, 06:29:18 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 16, 2018, 05:43:05 PM
Paperwork about to be lodged for the Scully to Hawthorn deal.

The trade I believe is for the 2019 future 4th round pick the Hawks got earlier from the Gold Coast.
AFL has to intervene on this. Is in no way anywhere remotely close to a fair deal.
Yeah. It's ridiculous. Not market rate. Not fair on the other 16 clubs. BS.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SilverLion on October 16, 2018, 06:52:32 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 16, 2018, 06:50:02 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 16, 2018, 06:29:18 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 16, 2018, 05:43:05 PM
Paperwork about to be lodged for the Scully to Hawthorn deal.

The trade I believe is for the 2019 future 4th round pick the Hawks got earlier from the Gold Coast.
AFL has to intervene on this. Is in no way anywhere remotely close to a fair deal.

Why?

If his ankle doesn't get better he may never play another game.

Would be surprised if he played in 2019 and GWS have salary cap issues and needed to just get rid of his salary off their books.
Hawks must think his ankle is ok: https://twitter.com/sam_mcclure/status/1052088415913558018

Can't just 'donate' a player to fix a salary cap problem. He's still got 4-5 years in him easy. Definitely worth minimum 3rd rounder, a mid-late 2nd rounder would probably be about right.

Hawthorn effectively swapped Duryea for Scully lol
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 16, 2018, 06:53:22 PM
Quote from: enzedder on October 16, 2018, 06:50:52 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 16, 2018, 06:29:18 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 16, 2018, 05:43:05 PM
Paperwork about to be lodged for the Scully to Hawthorn deal.

The trade I believe is for the 2019 future 4th round pick the Hawks got earlier from the Gold Coast.
AFL has to intervene on this. Is in no way anywhere remotely close to a fair deal.
Yeah. It's ridiculous. Not market rate. Not fair on the other 16 clubs. BS.
They are saying his ankle injury is so bad that's why he is cheap ha ha I bet he lines up R1  ;D
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: AaronKirk on October 16, 2018, 06:53:43 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 16, 2018, 06:52:32 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 16, 2018, 06:50:02 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 16, 2018, 06:29:18 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 16, 2018, 05:43:05 PM
Paperwork about to be lodged for the Scully to Hawthorn deal.

The trade I believe is for the 2019 future 4th round pick the Hawks got earlier from the Gold Coast.
AFL has to intervene on this. Is in no way anywhere remotely close to a fair deal.

Why?

If his ankle doesn't get better he may never play another game.

Would be surprised if he played in 2019 and GWS have salary cap issues and needed to just get rid of his salary off their books.
Hawks must think his ankle is ok: https://twitter.com/sam_mcclure/status/1052088415913558018

Can't just 'donate' a player to fix a salary cap problem. He's still got 4-5 years in him easy. Definitely worth minimum 3rd rounder, a mid-late 2nd rounder would probably be about right.

Hawthorn effectively swapped Duryea for Scully lol

They can if they are happy to do that deal
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Mat0369 on October 17, 2018, 01:49:27 AM
Welcome to the world of salary dumps. Port did it last year with Lobbe. GWS were actively shopping around Scully for this same reason. Any team that was willing to take on that contract was in play. The cap space is more valuable than a player to GWS when they need to retain Coniglio, Whitfield and most importantly Josh Kelly. Soon you're going to have teams following the NBA model where they will receive their trade compensation in picks to take on bad contracts.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 17, 2018, 06:59:07 AM
Quote from: enzedder on October 16, 2018, 06:50:52 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 16, 2018, 06:29:18 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 16, 2018, 05:43:05 PM
Paperwork about to be lodged for the Scully to Hawthorn deal.

The trade I believe is for the 2019 future 4th round pick the Hawks got earlier from the Gold Coast.
AFL has to intervene on this. Is in no way anywhere remotely close to a fair deal.
Yeah. It's ridiculous. Not market rate. Not fair on the other 16 clubs. BS.

How dare they, please remind me what Richmond paid for Lynch and Geelong paid for Dahl.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: PowerBug on October 17, 2018, 10:39:45 AM
Quote from: LaHug on October 15, 2018, 11:28:54 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 15, 2018, 08:38:42 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 15, 2018, 07:15:02 PM
Had a bit of a laugh about Port warning GC about taking Lukosius or Rankine or both really what are they supposed to do just pick lesser kids from QLD with there high picks  ::) the best chance of QLD kid is McFadyen around the mid 20's pick and they have 19, 24, 29 to pick up these players so lets face it whoever they get with there high picks might want to go home so they may as well pick the best  ;)

it is clever though, making a statement like that, not only might they get in the head of people at GC, they have got a message to those kids as well....

So it's draft tampering then?
It sounds like a team that has realised they have probably stuffed up and won't be able to move up the draft order, and the player they want (Rankine) is not going to drop to them.

At the time they got 6 I reckon they seriously thought that they'd be able to push Gold Coast out of 3 and so didn't say much at the time. Those talks have obviously gone nowhere, so this is their next attempt.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 17, 2018, 11:04:24 AM
Burton has agreed to be traded to Port in a deal for Wingard

Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 17, 2018, 11:06:47 AM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 17, 2018, 06:59:07 AM
Quote from: enzedder on October 16, 2018, 06:50:52 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 16, 2018, 06:29:18 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 16, 2018, 05:43:05 PM
Paperwork about to be lodged for the Scully to Hawthorn deal.

The trade I believe is for the 2019 future 4th round pick the Hawks got earlier from the Gold Coast.
AFL has to intervene on this. Is in no way anywhere remotely close to a fair deal.
Yeah. It's ridiculous. Not market rate. Not fair on the other 16 clubs. BS.

How dare they, please remind me what Richmond paid for Lynch and Geelong paid for Dahl.

Free Agency works completely different champ.
This is a contracted player.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SydneyRox on October 17, 2018, 11:26:40 AM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 17, 2018, 11:06:47 AM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 17, 2018, 06:59:07 AM
Quote from: enzedder on October 16, 2018, 06:50:52 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 16, 2018, 06:29:18 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 16, 2018, 05:43:05 PM
Paperwork about to be lodged for the Scully to Hawthorn deal.

The trade I believe is for the 2019 future 4th round pick the Hawks got earlier from the Gold Coast.
AFL has to intervene on this. Is in no way anywhere remotely close to a fair deal.
Yeah. It's ridiculous. Not market rate. Not fair on the other 16 clubs. BS.

How dare they, please remind me what Richmond paid for Lynch and Geelong paid for Dahl.

Free Agency works completely different champ.
This is a contracted player.

Exactly, Scully is not a free agent, yet he was able

To nominate two clubs (hawks and bombers) where he would go
Bombers couldn't afford him after Shiel
so it meant GWS either had to hold onto him with his inflated contract and salary cap pressure
or deal with one club who said, yup, well here is a bag of chips.

Plenty of other clubs would have offered more on an open market.

The other side is I heard this morning there is no risk from Hawthorn, because he is contracted and not a free agent.

If he has a career ending injury, the rest of his contract comes off the Hawthorn salary cap.

Conversely, if a free agent has a career ending injury, the team needs to hold his payments in the salary cap until the end of the deal.



Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 17, 2018, 11:40:31 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 17, 2018, 11:04:24 AM
Burton has agreed to be traded to Port in a deal for Wingard
Looks like this one is going to be the first on to drop
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 17, 2018, 11:59:10 AM
According to Kane Cornes

Hawthorn receives Chad Wingard.
Port Adelaide receives Ryan Burton, pick 5, pick 15 and Sam Mayes.
Brisbane receives pick 6, pick 35 and a future 3rd-round pick.


Plus some other minor pick swaps
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 17, 2018, 12:13:03 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 17, 2018, 11:26:40 AM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 17, 2018, 11:06:47 AM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 17, 2018, 06:59:07 AM
Quote from: enzedder on October 16, 2018, 06:50:52 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 16, 2018, 06:29:18 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 16, 2018, 05:43:05 PM
Paperwork about to be lodged for the Scully to Hawthorn deal.

The trade I believe is for the 2019 future 4th round pick the Hawks got earlier from the Gold Coast.
AFL has to intervene on this. Is in no way anywhere remotely close to a fair deal.
Yeah. It's ridiculous. Not market rate. Not fair on the other 16 clubs. BS.

How dare they, please remind me what Richmond paid for Lynch and Geelong paid for Dahl.

Free Agency works completely different champ.
This is a contracted player.

Exactly, Scully is not a free agent, yet he was able

To nominate two clubs (hawks and bombers) where he would go
Bombers couldn't afford him after Shiel
so it meant GWS either had to hold onto him with his inflated contract and salary cap pressure
or deal with one club who said, yup, well here is a bag of chips.

Plenty of other clubs would have offered more on an open market.

The other side is I heard this morning there is no risk from Hawthorn, because he is contracted and not a free agent.

If he has a career ending injury, the rest of his contract comes off the Hawthorn salary cap.

Conversely, if a free agent has a career ending injury, the team needs to hold his payments in the salary cap until the end of the deal.

They need to bring in a restriction to contracted players requesting to certain clubs.
Should make it you can request back to a certain state, not a specific club. And the one with the best financial/bidding offer gets the player. But if the player definitely didn't want to go to the club, he stays at the current one.
Tim Kelly is a good example, he's contracted a sooking that he wants to go back to WA, that shouldn't give him the right to specifically pick West Coast, when he said he wants to go back to his home state.

If this shower happened in the NFL, the club would just laugh in their face and send them to Cleveland.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 17, 2018, 12:20:42 PM
Finlayson to stay with GWS

Is contracted until 2020 anyway, but was told to explore his options earlier however staying now
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 17, 2018, 12:42:56 PM
Trade paperwork officially lodged.

Hawthorn has traded Ryan Burton, Rd 1 (15), Rd 2 (35) & its Future Rd 4 Selection (on traded from W.Bulldogs) to Port Adelaide for Chad Wingard and its Future Rd 3 Selection.

and

The @brisbanelions have traded Sam Mayes and pick 5 to @PAFC for pick 6, 35 and a future third round pick.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 17, 2018, 01:11:21 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 17, 2018, 11:06:47 AM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 17, 2018, 06:59:07 AM
Quote from: enzedder on October 16, 2018, 06:50:52 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 16, 2018, 06:29:18 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 16, 2018, 05:43:05 PM
Paperwork about to be lodged for the Scully to Hawthorn deal.

The trade I believe is for the 2019 future 4th round pick the Hawks got earlier from the Gold Coast.
AFL has to intervene on this. Is in no way anywhere remotely close to a fair deal.
Yeah. It's ridiculous. Not market rate. Not fair on the other 16 clubs. BS.

How dare they, please remind me what Richmond paid for Lynch and Geelong paid for Dahl.

Free Agency works completely different champ.
This is a contracted player.

Well no flowering shower. The outgoing club actually has some power in this to choose what they want in return. With this they wanted a salary dump, so now they have bargaining power for Shiel.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ringo on October 17, 2018, 01:34:24 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 17, 2018, 12:42:56 PM
Trade paperwork officially lodged.

Hawthorn has traded Ryan Burton, Rd 1 (15), Rd 2 (35) & its Future Rd 4 Selection (on traded from W.Bulldogs) to Port Adelaide for Chad Wingard and its Future Rd 3 Selection.

and

The @brisbanelions have traded Sam Mayes and pick 5 to @PAFC for pick 6, 35 and a future third round pick.
We will use 35 for Adams.
Beams according to rumours will be traded to Pies for 18 and future second
Neale will be traded for 6 and 18.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 17, 2018, 01:58:46 PM
Brisbane Lions has traded Future Round One Selection to the Gold Coast Suns for Rd 1 (19), Future Round 2 Selection & its Future Round 3 Selection (on traded from Hawthorn).


Far out Brissie are backing themselves in here :-X


Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 17, 2018, 01:58:46 PM
Brisbane Lions has traded Future Round One Selection to the Gold Coast Suns for Rd 1 (19), Future Round 2 Selection & its Future Round 3 Selection (on traded from Hawthorn).

Mitch Cleary just tweeted that Neale will be a Lion within the hour
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ringo on October 17, 2018, 02:03:18 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 17, 2018, 01:58:46 PM
Brisbane Lions has traded Future Round One Selection to the Gold Coast Suns for Rd 1 (19), Future Round 2 Selection & its Future Round 3 Selection (on traded from Hawthorn).

Mitch Cleary just tweeted that Neale will be a Lion within the hour
6 & 19 for Neale looks like the deal based on those pick exchanges.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 17, 2018, 02:08:09 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 17, 2018, 01:58:46 PM
Brisbane Lions has traded Future Round One Selection to the Gold Coast Suns for Rd 1 (19), Future Round 2 Selection & its Future Round 3 Selection (on traded from Hawthorn).


Far out Brissie are backing themselves in here :-X
How much do Brissie improve next year? Based on this year they'd need to pick up 7 wins to get inside the top 12
The get Neale but they lose Beams.

Could very well be pick 5-8 for 19, 22ish and Hawks future 3rd
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ringo on October 17, 2018, 02:13:17 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 17, 2018, 02:08:09 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 17, 2018, 01:58:46 PM
Brisbane Lions has traded Future Round One Selection to the Gold Coast Suns for Rd 1 (19), Future Round 2 Selection & its Future Round 3 Selection (on traded from Hawthorn).


Far out Brissie are backing themselves in here :-X
How much do Brissie improve next year? Based on this year they'd need to pick up 7 wins to get inside the top 12
The get Neale but they lose Beams.

Could very well be pick 5-8 for 19, 22ish and Hawks future 3rd
Only concern I have now is our first round selection pick for next year will now be in 19 - 23 range.  Can trade again but there are a couple of nice academy kids coming through as well. 
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Koop on October 17, 2018, 03:04:13 PM
Wingard  :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: AaronKirk on October 17, 2018, 03:11:16 PM
Done deal.

Freo trade Neale and pick 30 to Brisbane for pick 6,19 and 55
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 17, 2018, 03:22:13 PM
Melbourne trade Jesse Hogan and Rd 4 (65) (on traded from St Kilda) to  Fremantle for Rd 1 (6) (on traded from Brisbane Lions) and Rd 2 (23) (on traded from Port Adelaide).
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 17, 2018, 03:26:47 PM
GWS Giants trade Rory Lobb, Rd 1 (14), Rd 3 (43) (on traded from Carlton), Rd 3 (47) to Fremantle for Rd 1 (11) (on traded from Port Adelaide) and Rd 1 (19) (on traded from Brisbane Lions).
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: nrich102 on October 17, 2018, 03:33:56 PM
Fremantle big winners getting Hogan at that price. Trade rape.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: TomK on October 17, 2018, 03:44:03 PM
Big fan of Peter Bell after today
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Gigantor on October 17, 2018, 04:57:26 PM
No new threads in the Freo board???
Should we be concerned?
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SydneyRox on October 17, 2018, 05:09:00 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on October 17, 2018, 04:57:26 PM
No new threads in the Freo board???
Should we be concerned?

too busy booking their grand final tickets for next year!!!

Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: GoLions on October 17, 2018, 05:16:03 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 17, 2018, 05:09:00 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on October 17, 2018, 04:57:26 PM
No new threads in the Freo board???
Should we be concerned?

too busy booking their grand final tickets for next year!!!
Hogan and Lobb gonna dominate with Neale delivering it to them on a silver pla-
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 17, 2018, 05:22:55 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 17, 2018, 05:16:03 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 17, 2018, 05:09:00 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on October 17, 2018, 04:57:26 PM
No new threads in the Freo board???
Should we be concerned?

too busy booking their grand final tickets for next year!!!
Hogan and Lobb gonna dominate with Neale delivering it to them on a silver pla-

(https://media.giphy.com/media/n3ekEBdBbSJK8/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: GoLions on October 17, 2018, 05:30:20 PM
I should probably shut up in case Beams gets traded hahaha
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SydneyRox on October 17, 2018, 05:42:16 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 17, 2018, 05:22:55 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 17, 2018, 05:16:03 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 17, 2018, 05:09:00 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on October 17, 2018, 04:57:26 PM
No new threads in the Freo board???
Should we be concerned?

too busy booking their grand final tickets for next year!!!
Hogan and Lobb gonna dominate with Neale delivering it to them on a silver pla-

(https://media.giphy.com/media/n3ekEBdBbSJK8/giphy.gif)



hahahahahaha - gold!!

Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Purple 77 on October 17, 2018, 06:18:12 PM
Livid.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: GoLions on October 17, 2018, 06:31:13 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 17, 2018, 06:18:12 PM
Livid.
:'(
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: AaronKirk on October 17, 2018, 06:57:10 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 17, 2018, 06:18:12 PM
Livid.

So am I. Just get the deal for Shiel done ffs...
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SydneyRox on October 17, 2018, 07:04:26 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 17, 2018, 06:57:10 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 17, 2018, 06:18:12 PM
Livid.

So am I. Just get the deal for Shiel done ffs...

here come the navy blues......  :P
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Torpedo10 on October 17, 2018, 07:09:56 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 17, 2018, 07:04:26 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 17, 2018, 06:57:10 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 17, 2018, 06:18:12 PM
Livid.

So am I. Just get the deal for Shiel done ffs...

here come the navy blues......  :P
Take him, Bluebaggers.

We landed Dev; that's enough GWS for me.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: meow meow on October 17, 2018, 07:12:15 PM
Dogs are getting Shiel with pick 7
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 17, 2018, 07:19:29 PM
Kane Cornes suggesting Freo could swoop in with 14 and 31 for Kelly

Kelly was apparently pleading with Geelong today that they let him go home, so despite them saying Kelly won't go to Freo I guess anything is possible  :-X
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: _wato on October 17, 2018, 07:43:42 PM
Kelly has had one year in the system and yes it was good but 20 & 22 is plenty for him lol. Equivalent to pick 6.

Don’t honestly see how 14 & 31 is much better hahaha
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SydneyRox on October 17, 2018, 08:00:10 PM
Quote from: _wato on October 17, 2018, 07:43:42 PM
Kelly has had one year in the system and yes it was good but 20 & 22 is plenty for him lol. Equivalent to pick 6.

Don’t honestly see how 14 & 31 is much better hahaha

unless geelong have their eye on a player they could get for 14 not 20?

Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 17, 2018, 08:00:31 PM
Quote from: _wato on October 17, 2018, 07:43:42 PM
Kelly has had one year in the system and yes it was good but 20 & 22 is plenty for him lol. Equivalent to pick 6.

Don’t honestly see how 14 & 31 is much better hahaha
Yep Cats are stupid if they don't take 20 & 22 he has meltdown written all over him if he does not get home
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Mat0369 on October 17, 2018, 08:13:41 PM
Blues currently working on a deal for Newman as well
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Mat0369 on October 17, 2018, 08:36:03 PM
Blues have offered 2019 first round pick for Dylan Shiel. They would have to apply for the excemption from the AFL I assume for it to come through.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 17, 2018, 08:54:48 PM
Absolutely stoked with how well Bell and Rossich have played this trade period. To land Hogan (FINALLY), Lobb, Conca, #14 and #31 and give up pick 6 and Neale is a huge for the club. I don't think we'll land Kelly, but you never know.
Sounds like we're also into Colyer for a late pick
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 17, 2018, 08:56:12 PM
Adams to Brissie for pick 32 and a future 3rd

Shiel deal is done.
So is Beams, apparently for two first rounders
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: AaronKirk on October 17, 2018, 08:58:07 PM
West Coast have offered 20, 22 and 2019 2nd round pick for Kelly.

Cats want 20,22 and 2019 1st round.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Mat0369 on October 17, 2018, 09:01:17 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 17, 2018, 08:58:07 PM
West Coast have offered 20, 22 and 2019 2nd round pick for Kelly.

Cats want 20,22 and 2019 1st round.

They're cooked.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 17, 2018, 09:02:41 PM
Western Bulldogs trade Jordan Roughead to Collingwood for Rd 4 (75).
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 17, 2018, 09:06:59 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 17, 2018, 08:54:48 PM
Absolutely stoked with how well Bell and Rossich have played this trade period. To land Hogan (FINALLY), Lobb, Conca, #14 and #31 and give up pick 6 and Neale is a huge for the club. I don't think we'll land Kelly, but you never know.
Sounds like we're also into Colyer for a late pick
And done. Future 4th round
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: AaronKirk on October 17, 2018, 09:09:54 PM
Shiel deal done.

Pick 9 + 2019 1st rd pick for Shiel and GWS 2019 2nd rd pick

Newman to Carlton about to be done.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: AaronKirk on October 17, 2018, 09:18:39 PM
Tim Kelly remains a Cat for 2019
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ringo on October 17, 2018, 09:19:22 PM
In exchange for Beams and Pick No. 41 and 44, the Lions receive Pick No. 18, 56 and a future first-round pick from the Magpies.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: nrich102 on October 17, 2018, 09:28:23 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 17, 2018, 09:19:22 PM
In exchange for Beams and Pick No. 41 and 44, the Lions receive Pick No. 18, 56 and a future first-round pick from the Magpies.
Disgusting. Paid way overs for him and lose him for nothing.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Koop on October 17, 2018, 09:37:22 PM
Absolute carnage from the Cats tbh. 20 + 22 was more than worth Kelly.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 17, 2018, 09:40:42 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 17, 2018, 09:28:23 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 17, 2018, 09:19:22 PM
In exchange for Beams and Pick No. 41 and 44, the Lions receive Pick No. 18, 56 and a future first-round pick from the Magpies.
Disgusting. Paid way overs for him and lose him for nothing.

Really hurts you with your future first trade too
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 17, 2018, 09:42:15 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 17, 2018, 09:28:23 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 17, 2018, 09:19:22 PM
In exchange for Beams and Pick No. 41 and 44, the Lions receive Pick No. 18, 56 and a future first-round pick from the Magpies.
Disgusting. Paid way overs for him and lose him for nothing.
Yeah think you could have played hard ball and kept him and I don't think he would reacted badly if you did but you did get Neale and as for the Cats well the Eagles did all they could for a player in the system for 1 year with a offer of more than his worth IMO ....... sit back and watch this blow up in the Cats face.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Grazz on October 17, 2018, 09:56:07 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 17, 2018, 09:28:23 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 17, 2018, 09:19:22 PM
In exchange for Beams and Pick No. 41 and 44, the Lions receive Pick No. 18, 56 and a future first-round pick from the Magpies.
Disgusting. Paid way overs for him and lose him for nothing.

I'd be a little dirty also, all this on top of a big front end loaded contract then walks back to the Pies after all the Lions did to get him close to his Dad. Can't blame Lions fans for being powered off with this.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Big Mac on October 17, 2018, 10:12:57 PM
 :(
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: _wato on October 17, 2018, 10:13:17 PM
BEAMAAAAA
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ringo on October 17, 2018, 10:27:12 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 17, 2018, 09:56:07 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 17, 2018, 09:28:23 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 17, 2018, 09:19:22 PM
In exchange for Beams and Pick No. 41 and 44, the Lions receive Pick No. 18, 56 and a future first-round pick from the Magpies.
Disgusting. Paid way overs for him and lose him for nothing.

I'd be a little dirty also, all this on top of a big front end loaded contract then walks back to the Pies after all the Lions did to get him close to his Dad. Can't blame Lions fans for being powered off with this.
I am more peeved of at the club for the caving in to get Beams 2 years ago where we paid overs. Can not really argue with 2 first rounders for him though as I think it is fair given he is 29 and as we know injuries take longer to heal as you get older and Beams has never played a full season since being drafted.  Lions pages are probably running 60/40 in favour of him going although a lot upset with the way it was handled after the repeated denials.
Personally would have liked Beams to play next year and then facilitate the trade. Give another year developing Rayner, Berry, and Clugg with Neale as well but that is football.
With the picks we end with with luck we will draft both our Acadamy players McFayden and Coleman (I really rate Coleman from what I have seen) and a player possibly Jarrod Berrys Brother but as we know draft night throws up some surprises. 
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 17, 2018, 10:42:01 PM
Two first rounders is more than enough for Beams. He'll be 29 when the season starts

Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: nrich102 on October 17, 2018, 10:58:48 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 17, 2018, 10:42:01 PM
Two first rounders is more than enough for Beams. He'll be 29 when the season starts
Maybe if one of the picks was in the 8-12 kind of range. Can’t see Collingwoods first pick next year being any better than 14
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 18, 2018, 12:05:05 PM
JACK Lonie has signed a two-year contract extension that will keep him at St Kilda until at least the end of 2020
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ringo on October 18, 2018, 02:39:38 PM
Carlton: Sam Rowe, Jed Lamb, Sam Kerridge & Nick Graham have been delisted
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: enzedder on October 18, 2018, 03:44:43 PM
I feel for Brisbane as well. After Beams' B&F speech I feel he has spat in their face.
No loyalty to see his contract out after the club looked after him. Two first rounders maybe but 18 and another first round that prove similar isn't exactly a great couple of picks.
He's gone down in my estimation somewhat. Played the family card once too many times.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ringo on October 18, 2018, 04:35:45 PM
Quote from: enzedder on October 18, 2018, 03:44:43 PM
I feel for Brisbane as well. After Beams' B&F speech I feel he has spat in their face.
No loyalty to see his contract out after the club looked after him. Two first rounders maybe but 18 and another first round that prove similar isn't exactly a great couple of picks.
He's gone down in my estimation somewhat. Played the family card once too many times.
Am in two minds here and have been listening and reading to various comments by Beams and the Club. As much as I think Dayne has done the dirty, I believe the club has done the best can in sending him back ( after death of his father a lot of pressure was put on by his wife to return to her family) and he had mental issues to deal with. So the club put the emotion aside as Noble and Fagan said and facilitated the best deal they could for beams who really does not want to be here next year.
Whilst 2 first round picks in the teens is not ideal we do have a lot of talent that is maturing and coming through.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 18, 2018, 04:44:26 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 18, 2018, 04:35:45 PM
Quote from: enzedder on October 18, 2018, 03:44:43 PM
I feel for Brisbane as well. After Beams' B&F speech I feel he has spat in their face.
No loyalty to see his contract out after the club looked after him. Two first rounders maybe but 18 and another first round that prove similar isn't exactly a great couple of picks.
He's gone down in my estimation somewhat. Played the family card once too many times.
Am in two minds here and have been listening and reading to various comments by Beams and the Club. As much as I think Dayne has done the dirty, I believe the club has done the best can in sending him back ( after death of his father a lot of pressure was put on by his wife to return to her family) and he had mental issues to deal with. So the club put the emotion aside as Noble and Fagan said and facilitated the best deal they could for beams who really does not want to be here next year.
Whilst 2 first round picks in the teens is not ideal we do have a lot of talent that is maturing and coming through.
Unlike the Cats  :D
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: enzedder on October 18, 2018, 06:36:21 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 18, 2018, 04:44:26 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 18, 2018, 04:35:45 PM
Quote from: enzedder on October 18, 2018, 03:44:43 PM
I feel for Brisbane as well. After Beams' B&F speech I feel he has spat in their face.
No loyalty to see his contract out after the club looked after him. Two first rounders maybe but 18 and another first round that prove similar isn't exactly a great couple of picks.
He's gone down in my estimation somewhat. Played the family card once too many times.
Am in two minds here and have been listening and reading to various comments by Beams and the Club. As much as I think Dayne has done the dirty, I believe the club has done the best can in sending him back ( after death of his father a lot of pressure was put on by his wife to return to her family) and he had mental issues to deal with. So the club put the emotion aside as Noble and Fagan said and facilitated the best deal they could for beams who really does not want to be here next year.
Whilst 2 first round picks in the teens is not ideal we do have a lot of talent that is maturing and coming through.
Unlike the Cats  :D
Getting Neale is an upgrade in terms of possessions, age and wanting to be there. Lost little in leadership either...so that would soften the blow. Brisbane get my respect for handling things as they did.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Cookie311993 on October 20, 2018, 03:35:31 PM
I feel like the suns will be looking at Sa draft picks for 2,3 and 6 to try and keep them together
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Menzel Washington on October 20, 2018, 06:26:34 PM
Quote from: Cookie311993 on October 20, 2018, 03:35:31 PM
I feel like the suns will be looking at Sa draft picks for 2,3 and 6 to try and keep them together
You feel like or just repeating what every media outlet has said?
What makes picking 2 (or 3) guys from SA more likely for them to stay compared to 2 (or 3) from Victoria?
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Cookie311993 on October 20, 2018, 06:52:14 PM
Quote from: Menzel Washington on October 20, 2018, 06:26:34 PM
Quote from: Cookie311993 on October 20, 2018, 03:35:31 PM
I feel like the suns will be looking at Sa draft picks for 2,3 and 6 to try and keep them together
You feel like or just repeating what every media outlet has said?
What makes picking 2 (or 3) guys from SA more likely for them to stay compared to 2 (or 3) from Victoria?
Recruiting 2 or 3 guys from Victoria has worked so well in the past hasn’t it. The fact the Sa blokes are all good mates, might actually help their chances. They can’t keep trading players back home in 2-3 seasons
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: GoLions on October 20, 2018, 06:53:59 PM
Quote from: Cookie311993 on October 20, 2018, 06:52:14 PM
Quote from: Menzel Washington on October 20, 2018, 06:26:34 PM
Quote from: Cookie311993 on October 20, 2018, 03:35:31 PM
I feel like the suns will be looking at Sa draft picks for 2,3 and 6 to try and keep them together
You feel like or just repeating what every media outlet has said?
What makes picking 2 (or 3) guys from SA more likely for them to stay compared to 2 (or 3) from Victoria?
Recruiting 2 or 3 guys from Victoria has worked so well in the past hasn’t it. The fact the Sa blokes are all good mates, might actually help their chances. They can’t keep trading players back home in 2-3 seasons
Because Rankine and Lukosius are probably the next best 2 players after Walsh anyway
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Cookie311993 on October 20, 2018, 07:10:26 PM
It’s either the Sa lads or the King twins, otherwise they could get homesick like has happened recently
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 20, 2018, 07:15:17 PM
Quote from: Cookie311993 on October 20, 2018, 07:10:26 PM
It’s either the Sa lads or the King twins, otherwise they could get homesick like has happened recently

Who have they lost to homesickness?
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Cookie311993 on October 20, 2018, 07:48:21 PM
Josh Caddy, Tom Hickey, jarrod Garlett requested a trade to Wa didn’t happen so he left the game, Adam Saad, scrimshaw, Prestia, Matera, Lynch, Ablett  plus others.

Poor results also don’t help
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Cookie311993 on October 21, 2018, 08:26:22 PM
Have absolutely no idea how the draft trades work. It’s just the trading of draft picks isn’t it
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SilverLion on October 21, 2018, 09:29:55 PM
Quote from: Cookie311993 on October 21, 2018, 08:26:22 PM
Have absolutely no idea how the draft trades work. It’s just the trading of draft picks isn’t it
Yep can only trade picks and future picks for other picks and future picks. Can happen even on the night too.

E.g.

St. Kilda's turn to pick at pick 4, but Rankine or Lukosius is still available, Adelaide might offer them 8, 13 and 21 for 4 for instance. But they mightn't do that if both those players have already been picked.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: PowerBug on October 21, 2018, 11:18:01 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 21, 2018, 09:29:55 PM
Quote from: Cookie311993 on October 21, 2018, 08:26:22 PM
Have absolutely no idea how the draft trades work. It’s just the trading of draft picks isn’t it
Yep can only trade picks and future picks for other picks and future picks. Can happen even on the night too.

E.g.

St. Kilda's turn to pick at pick 4, but Rankine or Lukosius is still available, Adelaide might offer them 8, 13 and 21 for 4 for instance. But they mightn't do that if both those players have already been picked.
And your example is what I'm expecting will happen on the night. Where the Crows jump us as soon as Gold Coast decide on who to take at 3, so there's no chance for us to get above them.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Cookie311993 on October 22, 2018, 06:57:56 AM
I don’t know if the saints would take that offer. They want Max King with their draft pick. He has been doing rehab in their facilities
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: enzedder on October 22, 2018, 07:42:22 AM
Quote from: Cookie311993 on October 22, 2018, 06:57:56 AM
I don’t know if the saints would take that offer. They want Max King with their draft pick. He has been doing rehab in their facilities
This is true and possible.
However I think the saints would be wrong not to take that offer.
Tall forwards is something we have. McCartin, Bruce, Membrey, Marshall, Battle. We don't need another one.
We need midfielders. #8 and #13 give us the chance to have two genuine bites of building on the back of Clark and Coffield from last year.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: enzedder on October 22, 2018, 07:57:06 AM
Port may also offer St.Kilda 10 and 15 to prevent Adelaide from jumping the queue in the first place.
Whilst not as good as #8 and #13 if they threw in 2019's second rounder or the 2019 third rounder from Hawthorn which can both be traded I reckon they could end up with #4 and 5.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 22, 2018, 09:19:19 AM
Quote from: enzedder on October 22, 2018, 07:57:06 AM
Port may also offer St.Kilda 10 and 15 to prevent Adelaide from jumping the queue in the first place.
Whilst not as good as #8 and #13 if they threw in 2019's second rounder or the 2019 third rounder from Hawthorn which can both be traded I reckon they could end up with #4 and 5.
Still think the SA clubs are gonna go after 2 and 3 there is a very good chance GC will take Lukosius  and Rankine don't know if the Crows will cough up 2 first rounders for Rozee to get him before Port
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: enzedder on October 22, 2018, 09:24:12 AM
Quote from: shaker on October 22, 2018, 09:19:19 AM
Quote from: enzedder on October 22, 2018, 07:57:06 AM
Port may also offer St.Kilda 10 and 15 to prevent Adelaide from jumping the queue in the first place.
Whilst not as good as #8 and #13 if they threw in 2019's second rounder or the 2019 third rounder from Hawthorn which can both be traded I reckon they could end up with #4 and 5.
Still think the SA clubs are gonna go after 2 and 3 there is a very good chance GC will take Lukosius  and Rankine don't know if the Crows will cough up 2 first rounders for Rozee to get him before Port
Saints pick#4 will have no value if GC trade and that is certainly possible.
So many variables. Will be interesting.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 22, 2018, 09:33:34 AM
FREMANTLE has delisted defender Tom Sheridan, Cam Sutcliffe and Brady Grey
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 22, 2018, 03:17:51 PM
West Coast has delisted Malcolm Karpany, Luke Partington, Tarir Bayok, Ryan Burrows, Callan England and Tony Olango.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Gigantor on October 22, 2018, 03:22:29 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 22, 2018, 03:17:51 PM
West Coast has delisted Malcolm Karpany, Luke Partington, Tarir Bayok, Ryan Burrows, Callan England and Tony Olango.

Bit harsh for Parto after tying for the East Perth B&F but I guess we have a lot of guys vying for that type of position.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: enzedder on October 22, 2018, 03:31:49 PM
Not Olango.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 22, 2018, 03:37:31 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on October 22, 2018, 03:22:29 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 22, 2018, 03:17:51 PM
West Coast has delisted Malcolm Karpany, Luke Partington, Tarir Bayok, Ryan Burrows, Callan England and Tony Olango.

Bit harsh for Parto after tying for the East Perth B&F but I guess we have a lot of guys vying for that type of position.
Yeh surprised by Partington too
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 22, 2018, 03:54:43 PM
Quote from: enzedder on October 22, 2018, 03:31:49 PM
Not Olango.
Best SC captain in living memory
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 22, 2018, 04:57:19 PM
Luke Strnadica delisted too
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Gigantor on October 22, 2018, 05:00:10 PM
All the good R3's getting culled  ;D
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on October 22, 2018, 05:34:14 PM
Matt Signorello has been delisted by Adelaide
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: nas on October 22, 2018, 08:02:43 PM
Port Changes: PORT ADELAIDE has farewelled forward Jake Neade and midfielders Dom Barry and Will Snelling after informing them that their contracts would not be renewed for 2019.

The Power has also made another change to its list with rookie Dan Houston being upgraded to the senior list.http://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/news/2018-10-22/port-announces-four-list-changes
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: enzedder on October 23, 2018, 02:00:41 PM
Footage of Shane Mumford snorting a line of what appears to be cocaine is doing the rounds on Facebook and has been reported in the press too. Apparently it was filmed some time back when recovering from injury whilst a GWS player.
I suppose he can forget about a comeback unless it’s with Essendon.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: iZander on October 23, 2018, 02:05:43 PM
Quote from: enzedder on October 23, 2018, 02:00:41 PM
Footage of Shane Mumford snorting a line of what appears to be cocaine is doing the rounds on Facebook and has been reported in the press too. Apparently it was filmed some back when recovering from injury whilst a GWS player.
I suppose he can forget about a comeback unless it’s with Essendon.
Or saints, lets not forget Carlisle's video came out when he was a saints player ;)
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Gigantor on October 23, 2018, 02:09:16 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 23, 2018, 02:05:43 PM
Quote from: enzedder on October 23, 2018, 02:00:41 PM
Footage of Shane Mumford snorting a line of what appears to be cocaine is doing the rounds on Facebook and has been reported in the press too. Apparently it was filmed some back when recovering from injury whilst a GWS player.
I suppose he can forget about a comeback unless it’s with Essendon.
Or saints, lets not forget Carlisle's video came out when he was a saints player ;)
Or the Pies, someone has to replace Murray
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: enzedder on October 23, 2018, 02:16:24 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on October 23, 2018, 02:09:16 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 23, 2018, 02:05:43 PM
Quote from: enzedder on October 23, 2018, 02:00:41 PM
Footage of Shane Mumford snorting a line of what appears to be cocaine is doing the rounds on Facebook and has been reported in the press too. Apparently it was filmed some back when recovering from injury whilst a GWS player.
I suppose he can forget about a comeback unless it’s with Essendon.
Or saints, lets not forget Carlisle's video came out when he was a saints player ;)
Or the Pies, someone has to replace Murray
Or the pies.
I will forget what you said about Carlisle and the Saints IZ
Let's remember that happened before he played a game for the Saints so was more the Essendonculture rubbing off, similar to the Lovett's situation when he hadn't played a game or the Saints either. Bloody Essendon haha.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: iZander on October 23, 2018, 02:29:30 PM
Quote from: enzedder on October 23, 2018, 02:16:24 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on October 23, 2018, 02:09:16 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 23, 2018, 02:05:43 PM
Quote from: enzedder on October 23, 2018, 02:00:41 PM
Footage of Shane Mumford snorting a line of what appears to be cocaine is doing the rounds on Facebook and has been reported in the press too. Apparently it was filmed some back when recovering from injury whilst a GWS player.
I suppose he can forget about a comeback unless it’s with Essendon.
Or saints, lets not forget Carlisle's video came out when he was a saints player ;)
Or the Pies, someone has to replace Murray
Or the pies.
I will forget what you said about Carlisle and the Saints IZ
Let's remember that happened before he played a game for the Saints so was more the Essendonculture rubbing off, similar to the Lovett's situation when he hadn't played a game or the Saints either. Bloody Essendon haha.
hahaha, na it just took less than a week for the saint kilda to rub off on him ;)
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: AaronKirk on October 23, 2018, 07:58:04 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 23, 2018, 02:29:30 PM
Quote from: enzedder on October 23, 2018, 02:16:24 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on October 23, 2018, 02:09:16 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 23, 2018, 02:05:43 PM
Quote from: enzedder on October 23, 2018, 02:00:41 PM
Footage of Shane Mumford snorting a line of what appears to be cocaine is doing the rounds on Facebook and has been reported in the press too. Apparently it was filmed some back when recovering from injury whilst a GWS player.
I suppose he can forget about a comeback unless it’s with Essendon.
Or saints, lets not forget Carlisle's video came out when he was a saints player ;)
Or the Pies, someone has to replace Murray
Or the pies.
I will forget what you said about Carlisle and the Saints IZ
Let's remember that happened before he played a game for the Saints so was more the Essendonculture rubbing off, similar to the Lovett's situation when he hadn't played a game or the Saints either. Bloody Essendon haha.
hahaha, na it just took less than a week for the saint kilda to rub off on him ;)

Jack Watts in the same boat. Search "Jack Watts Photos" on twitter.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 23, 2018, 08:26:23 PM
it happened when Carlisle was still on Essendon's list, therefore...
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 23, 2018, 09:35:36 PM
Every club in Australia has players doing coke.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 24, 2018, 11:49:22 AM
Matthew Leuenberger has retired
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Nige on October 24, 2018, 12:20:18 PM
Dan Robinson and Harry Marsh delisted.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: crowls on October 24, 2018, 10:17:45 PM
Menzel delisted by cats.         surely saints, suns, carlton have reason to look at him.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Torpedo10 on October 24, 2018, 10:20:28 PM
Quote from: crowls on October 24, 2018, 10:17:45 PM
Menzel delisted by cats.         surely saints, suns, carlton have reason to look at him.
I'll reiterate a comment I just saw on twitter;

Has the world Cats gone mad?
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Big Mac on October 24, 2018, 11:37:52 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 24, 2018, 10:20:28 PM
Quote from: crowls on October 24, 2018, 10:17:45 PM
Menzel delisted by cats.         surely saints, suns, carlton have reason to look at him.
I'll reiterate a comment I just saw on twitter;

Has the world Cats gone mad?

Hasn’t run both ways once in his whole career
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: elephants on October 25, 2018, 05:53:34 PM
Out: LeCras
In: Menzel

Fine by me
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 25, 2018, 06:28:40 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 25, 2018, 05:53:34 PM
Out: LeCras
In: Menzel

Fine by me

+1
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: crowls on October 26, 2018, 11:49:47 PM
no way do i want to see menzel playing for weagles.     surely a vic club can pick him up.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: elephants on October 27, 2018, 02:41:35 PM
Quote from: crowls on October 26, 2018, 11:49:47 PM
no way do i want to see menzel playing for weagles.     surely a vic club can pick him up.

Rumour is we aren't interested. No real need to change a winning formula. As amazing as Lecca was for our club his final few years were hardly world beating. Just as happy to see Matty Allen, Oscar Allen or Jarrod Brander get games, or our first half of the season hero Jakey Waterman return.

Probably with the exception of Brander they're all a similar size to Menzel
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ringo on October 29, 2018, 01:49:36 PM
The Hawks have gone ahead and swung the axe. Both Brendan Whitecross and Kieran Lovell have not been offered contracts by hawthorn for next year.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Purple 77 on October 29, 2018, 02:45:32 PM
The hawks just don't like top 25 draft picks very much.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: GoLions on October 29, 2018, 02:56:30 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 29, 2018, 02:45:32 PM
The hawks just don't like top 25 draft picks very much.
Lovell is barely good enough to play at vfl level
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 29, 2018, 10:27:24 PM
SYDNEY has met with former Docker Cam Sutcliffe as it weighs up its options ahead of the Delisted Free Agency Period.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: GoLions on October 29, 2018, 10:31:10 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 29, 2018, 10:27:24 PM
SYDNEY has met with former Docker Cam Sutcliffe as it weighs up its options ahead of the Delisted Free Agency Period.
Could save my backline in wxvs
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SydneyRox on October 30, 2018, 10:36:10 AM
Quote from: GoLions on October 29, 2018, 10:31:10 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 29, 2018, 10:27:24 PM
SYDNEY has met with former Docker Cam Sutcliffe as it weighs up its options ahead of the Delisted Free Agency Period.
Could save my backline in wxvs

HA! that would mean he would have to play..... cant see it. Good NEAFL depth player
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 30, 2018, 11:48:48 AM
Gold Coast have delisted Jesse Lonergan

The club has also officially delisted Brad Scheer and Harrison Wigg, but are committed to redrafting them in the NAB AFL Rookie Draft.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ringo on October 30, 2018, 06:56:12 PM
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/10/30/collingwood-finalises-list-with-nine-moves/

Pies de-list Jarryd Blair, Adam Oxley, Josh Smith. Sam McLarty and Kayle Kirby

Tom Liberatore has resigned with the Dogs.

Adelaide: Kyle Cheney & Paul Hunter have been delisted
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SydneyRox on October 30, 2018, 08:13:29 PM
Libba the big news there, the longer it went, started wondering.

only a 1yr deal too?
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: elephants on October 31, 2018, 02:57:28 AM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 30, 2018, 10:36:10 AM
Quote from: GoLions on October 29, 2018, 10:31:10 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 29, 2018, 10:27:24 PM
SYDNEY has met with former Docker Cam Sutcliffe as it weighs up its options ahead of the Delisted Free Agency Period.
Could save my backline in wxvs

HA! that would mean he would have to play..... cant see it. Good NEAFL depth player

Watch Sydney turn him into an All Australian backman
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 31, 2018, 01:18:21 PM
RICHMOND has delisted Jacob Townsend, Nathan Drummond and Mabior Chol.

The Tigers are committed to retaining Townsend in the NAB AFL Rookie Draft, but understands he may still explore his options at other clubs as a delisted free agent.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Gigantor on October 31, 2018, 01:44:16 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 31, 2018, 01:18:21 PM
RICHMOND has delisted Jacob Townsend, Nathan Drummond and Mabior Chol.

The Tigers are committed to retaining Townsend in the NAB AFL Rookie Draft, but understands he may still explore his options at other clubs as a delisted free agent.

Geez a bit of a fall from grace in 12 months for Townsend
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 31, 2018, 03:45:07 PM
Jarryd Lyons (GC) and Matt Dea (Ess) delisted

Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SilverLion on October 31, 2018, 04:06:42 PM
Jack Frost retired.

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 31, 2018, 03:45:07 PM
Jarryd Lyons (GC) and Matt Dea (Ess) delisted
What is Gold Coast doing lol
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SydneyRox on October 31, 2018, 04:53:56 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 31, 2018, 04:06:42 PM
Jack Frost retired.

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 31, 2018, 03:45:07 PM
Jarryd Lyons (GC) and Matt Dea (Ess) delisted
What is Gold Coast doing lol

Lyons going to Brisbane

Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 31, 2018, 04:56:18 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on October 31, 2018, 01:44:16 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 31, 2018, 01:18:21 PM
RICHMOND has delisted Jacob Townsend, Nathan Drummond and Mabior Chol.

The Tigers are committed to retaining Townsend in the NAB AFL Rookie Draft, but understands he may still explore his options at other clubs as a delisted free agent.

Geez a bit of a fall from grace in 12 months for Townsend
Was kinda hoping he would get another crack at the midfield maybe take a bit of pressure off an aging Cotch who's body is starting to show a bit of wear and tear.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SydneyRox on October 31, 2018, 05:17:03 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 31, 2018, 04:56:18 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on October 31, 2018, 01:44:16 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 31, 2018, 01:18:21 PM
RICHMOND has delisted Jacob Townsend, Nathan Drummond and Mabior Chol.

The Tigers are committed to retaining Townsend in the NAB AFL Rookie Draft, but understands he may still explore his options at other clubs as a delisted free agent.

Geez a bit of a fall from grace in 12 months for Townsend
Was kinda hoping he would get another crack at the midfield maybe take a bit of pressure off an aging Cotch who's body is starting to show a bit of wear and tear.

You would think another club will pick him up. done a test at Sydney apparently?
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 31, 2018, 05:54:22 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 31, 2018, 04:56:18 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on October 31, 2018, 01:44:16 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 31, 2018, 01:18:21 PM
RICHMOND has delisted Jacob Townsend, Nathan Drummond and Mabior Chol.

The Tigers are committed to retaining Townsend in the NAB AFL Rookie Draft, but understands he may still explore his options at other clubs as a delisted free agent.

Geez a bit of a fall from grace in 12 months for Townsend
Was kinda hoping he would get another crack at the midfield maybe take a bit of pressure off an aging Cotch who's body is starting to show a bit of wear and tear.

Sounds like something Miles could have done  ::)
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 31, 2018, 06:08:43 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 31, 2018, 05:17:03 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 31, 2018, 04:56:18 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on October 31, 2018, 01:44:16 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 31, 2018, 01:18:21 PM
RICHMOND has delisted Jacob Townsend, Nathan Drummond and Mabior Chol.

The Tigers are committed to retaining Townsend in the NAB AFL Rookie Draft, but understands he may still explore his options at other clubs as a delisted free agent.

Geez a bit of a fall from grace in 12 months for Townsend
Was kinda hoping he would get another crack at the midfield maybe take a bit of pressure off an aging Cotch who's body is starting to show a bit of wear and tear.

You would think another club will pick him up. done a test at Sydney apparently?

You think someone would grab him.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on October 31, 2018, 06:10:44 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 31, 2018, 05:54:22 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 31, 2018, 04:56:18 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on October 31, 2018, 01:44:16 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 31, 2018, 01:18:21 PM
RICHMOND has delisted Jacob Townsend, Nathan Drummond and Mabior Chol.

The Tigers are committed to retaining Townsend in the NAB AFL Rookie Draft, but understands he may still explore his options at other clubs as a delisted free agent.

Geez a bit of a fall from grace in 12 months for Townsend
Was kinda hoping he would get another crack at the midfield maybe take a bit of pressure off an aging Cotch who's body is starting to show a bit of wear and tear.

Sounds like something Miles could have done  ::)
Miles is hard at it but his disposal was always a problem.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SilverLion on November 01, 2018, 02:54:09 PM
http://m.lions.com.au/news/2018-11-01/lyons-joins-lions-2019

Huge get.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 01, 2018, 04:34:02 PM
GREATER Western Sydney has secured delisted Docker Tommy Sheridan
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 07, 2018, 12:15:28 PM
GOLD Coast has secured the signature of delisted free agent Jordan Murdoch, signing the former Geelong speedster to a three-year deal at Metricon Stadium.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Cookie311993 on November 07, 2018, 07:39:37 PM
According to the news tonight, Carlton met with Lukosius and Rozee this morning
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 13, 2018, 07:55:35 PM
Delisted Dog ruckman Tom Campbell has had a medical at Essendon.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 13, 2018, 10:52:39 PM
Essendon looks set to sign former Fremantle ruckman Zac Clarke via delisted free agency.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: AaronKirk on November 14, 2018, 01:19:41 PM
Daniel Menzel has joined Sydney as a delisted free agent.

Great pick up for the Swans.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on November 14, 2018, 01:23:50 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on November 14, 2018, 01:19:41 PM
Daniel Menzel has joined Sydney as a delisted free agent.

Great pick up for the Swans.
Yep he's a great fit for what Swans need, in giving Buddy a hand up fwd
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ringo on November 14, 2018, 01:29:10 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 14, 2018, 01:23:50 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on November 14, 2018, 01:19:41 PM
Daniel Menzel has joined Sydney as a delisted free agent.

Great pick up for the Swans.
Yep he's a great fit for what Swans need, in giving Buddy a hand up fwd
Menzell direct replacement for Rohan.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Ricochet on November 14, 2018, 01:30:27 PM
Quote from: Ringo on November 14, 2018, 01:29:10 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 14, 2018, 01:23:50 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on November 14, 2018, 01:19:41 PM
Daniel Menzel has joined Sydney as a delisted free agent.

Great pick up for the Swans.
Yep he's a great fit for what Swans need, in giving Buddy a hand up fwd
Menzell direct replacement for Rohan.
upgrade*
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on November 14, 2018, 06:16:16 PM
Townsend looking like staying a Tiger not unhappy if that happens  ;)
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SilverLion on November 15, 2018, 12:54:21 PM
GC interested in Josh Smith, Bugg training with Carlton.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Purple 77 on November 15, 2018, 02:08:35 PM
Bugg is a great competitor, could be a good get for Blues.

Tbh, really could have been a good small forward... just tell him to give off handballs if in front of goals.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Money Shot on November 15, 2018, 10:46:25 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 15, 2018, 02:08:35 PM
Bugg is a great competitor, could be a good get for Blues.

Tbh, really could have been a good small forward... just tell him to give off handballs if in front of goals.
Although I don’t see him as best 22 him alongside with Goddard will add some much needed depth.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on November 20, 2018, 12:27:33 PM
Maverick Weller set to join the Tiges
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SydneyRox on November 20, 2018, 12:56:17 PM
Quote from: shaker on November 20, 2018, 12:27:33 PM
Maverick Weller set to join the Tiges

Would most people say Miles > Weller ?? So surely just depth

Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: elephants on November 20, 2018, 01:14:09 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on November 20, 2018, 12:56:17 PM
Quote from: shaker on November 20, 2018, 12:27:33 PM
Maverick Weller set to join the Tiges

Would most people say Miles > Weller ?? So surely just depth

Different roles. Weller a pressure fwd, Miles a small inside mid. But probably just depth all the same.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 20, 2018, 01:56:18 PM
Keegan Brooksby getting picked up by WCE
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SilverLion on November 20, 2018, 05:28:51 PM
Corey Wagner set to join brother Josh at Melbourne.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: elephants on November 20, 2018, 06:03:40 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 20, 2018, 01:56:18 PM
Keegan Brooksby getting picked up by WCE

SANFL ruck of the year. Happy with this
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Purple 77 on November 20, 2018, 10:02:06 PM
Wagner was pretty decent at Casey this year.

Glad to see we're keeping the Casey connection strong. That's Tim Smith, Dec Keilty, Bayley Fritsch and now Corey Wagner  :)
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 26, 2018, 03:38:33 PM
Tom Campbell set to be picked up by Norf
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on November 27, 2018, 12:11:03 PM
The Tiges have offered a lifeline to talented WA teenager Sydney Stack with an invitation for him to train with them till March 15 which he then could join the Tiges list under new rookie rules that's of course if the AFL says yes , he was overlooked in last weeks drafts so WA guys any info about him ? as I know nothing about him.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: Nige on November 27, 2018, 12:26:00 PM
Quote from: shaker on November 27, 2018, 12:11:03 PM
The Tiges have offered a lifeline to talented WA teenager Sydney Stack with an invitation for him to train with them till March 15 which he then could join the Tiges list under new rookie rules that's of course if the AFL says yes , he was overlooked in last weeks drafts so WA guys any info about him ? as I know nothing about him.
One of the most stiff to not get drafted at all.

Has good talent/ability and being in the sytem and training like an AFL footballer might do him some good.
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: elephants on November 27, 2018, 12:43:42 PM
Quote from: shaker on November 27, 2018, 12:11:03 PM
The Tiges have offered a lifeline to talented WA teenager Sydney Stack with an invitation for him to train with them till March 15 which he then could join the Tiges list under new rookie rules that's of course if the AFL says yes , he was overlooked in last weeks drafts so WA guys any info about him ? as I know nothing about him.

Wish the Eagles did this. Has all the talent in the world just needs to get his head screwed on properly
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: PowerBug on November 27, 2018, 12:46:46 PM
You could say with that pick up the Tigers list is...... stacked ;D
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: shaker on November 27, 2018, 01:03:04 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 27, 2018, 12:43:42 PM
Quote from: shaker on November 27, 2018, 12:11:03 PM
The Tiges have offered a lifeline to talented WA teenager Sydney Stack with an invitation for him to train with them till March 15 which he then could join the Tiges list under new rookie rules that's of course if the AFL says yes , he was overlooked in last weeks drafts so WA guys any info about him ? as I know nothing about him.

Wish the Eagles did this. Has all the talent in the world just needs to get his head screwed on properly
Ok so looking at the replies he might be a bit of a loose canon that could do with some mentoring so with guys like Edwards Rioli and of course Cotchin who I really rate as a mentor he might be worth the effort  :)
Title: Re: 2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)
Post by: SilverLion on December 01, 2018, 12:13:50 PM
Zac Clarke officially joins Essendon.

Mumford officially joins GWS.