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This is the clash we deserve...

*looks at Ada & Holz*

... but not what we need.



I like seeing how our earlier premonitions about teams stack up to what actually happens in the year. Let's look back and see what was said about them all the way back in Round 1...

Quote from: meow meow on December 12, 2017, 02:11:06 PM
London - take note of the Wolves. Now THAT is how you are meant to trade if you want to get anywhere. Except they got a little carried away and traded out the true GOAT. After the mighty impressive finish to 2017 the Wolves kept the momentum going in the off season and are truly capable of anything this year.

Quote from: meow meow on December 12, 2017, 02:11:06 PM
There was once a man named Holzman, and he was pretty good at Supercoach. He was an inaugural WXV coach who built the Dublin team. His roots were humble; finishing a pathetic 18th in the competition's first year. He was a fierce competitor who knew that wasn't good enough so he invested hours of his time crunching numbers, reading match reports, asking a few trusted sources for information, garnering all the knowledge that he could. His team improved quite quickly but deep down he knew that they were never going to be elite - so he resorted to dubious methods. He studied psychology to best persuade his rival coaches to happily hand over their star players. He studied law to debate any and all rules that didn't favour his own empire. He became obsessed with his own team and their reputation, and his ego ran wild as he sought to build Dublin into an unstoppable machine that ran roughshod over the entire competition forever. He became mentally unstable and actually believed his own ramblings - convincing himself that Dublin was actually better than the mightiest of mighty Sao Paulo Pumas.

Ha, classic meow.

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Head-to-Head: 2 v 5
Last time they played (Round 3): Dublin Destroyers (20.10.130) lost to Toronto Wolves (23.11.149)
2018 Head-to-Head: 11 v 8
Purps' Takeaway: Was it ever going to be any other way? Toronto v Dublin. The new powerhouse v the historic powerhouse. The Minor Premiers v the form team of the last third of the season. The biggest ego in the comp vs... Holz? That's for another day. But for now, the two larger-than-life teams are destined to put up a Grand Final for the ages and I fully intend to be at the front row the whole time. Taking a look at the stats, you'll see Jack Macrae is the biggest point of difference; averaging 19 more SC points than the next highest who is the evergreen Kade Simpson, also from Toronto. Next in line are the three star Dublin mids in Martin, Jelwood and Crouch before Pendlebury - Toronto's a WXVs first ever player - rounds out the top 7 players in this game. An incredible 19 players average more than 90 points in these two teams lists, and all bar Naitanui and perhaps Bellchambers will be fronting up in this match. That's a pretty cruel blow for Toronto; missing BOTH of their 90+ averaging rucks! It's interesting to note that, whilst Toronto were certainly the dominant force of the H&A season, Dublin have outscored them in 6 of the past 9 weeks! This game honestly is the biggest of the year on so many fronts, and we're just so fortunate that it is our WXV Grand Final. So pick a side I say, and go ballistic for them!
Verdict: Toronto… predicting the Dublin mids will fail to fire.

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And reserves!

Congrats Seoul & Dillos - you know the drill.

DRAW DRAW DRAW!

The GOATGAJ would certainly help more than (C)onnor will this week. A little too carried away, let's hope it doesn't cost them the win.

Dublin gunning for their 3rd WXV Premiership, whilst Toronto is looking to become 5th club ever to take home the flag.

Pick a side, and don't deviate.

I'm picking a draw. Toronto might get the flag but they'll only be paper champions and won't get the respect.

Holy shower. My mum came into my room to bring me a plate of chicken nuggets and I literally screamed at her and hit the plate of chicken nuggets out of her hand. She started yelling and swearing at me and I slammed the door on her. I'm so distressed right now I don't know what to do. I didn't mean to do that to my mum but I'm literally in shock from the grand final fixture. I feel like I'm going to explode. Why the flowering flower are they facing off? This can't be happening. I'm having a flowering breakdown. I don't want to believe the world is so corrupt. I want a future to believe in. I want meow meow to be the premiership coach and win this broken competition. I cannot flowering deal with this right now. It wasn't supposed to be like this, I thought he had the best list in Worlds???? This is so flowered.

This is like picking the lesser of two evils.

Oh and I laugh literally every time I read that write up about Holz and Dublin because it's the most accurate thing anyone has written on this forum.

I too think the draw is the only way to go.

If Edgelord had GAJ then it would be all over...

Draw option in the poll please.

Quote from: Nige on August 21, 2018, 08:06:51 PM
Draw option in the poll please.

Quote from: meow meow on August 21, 2018, 07:57:49 PM
The GOATGAJ would certainly help more than (C)onnor will this week. A little too carried away, let's hope it doesn't cost them the win.

Well look here...

Quote from: Adamant on March 22, 2018, 05:24:03 PM
Trading out Gary Ablett Jnr will cost Toronto the premiership.

:-X

Carlton Carlton Suns Dogs

My mids opponents. Im feeling they will go well.

I can feel mass restings coming though

Cripps, Murphy, Curnow, DOW. flowered there
Zorkokiller, Mav Weller. flowered there
Dunkley, Bont, Hunter, Macrae with their 40 touches each. flowered there.

Dublin's mids will be lucky to average 90 between them.

Levi delivers yet again in the OP

The Outs

Toronto:
D: Alex Witherden, Kade Kolodjashnij*, Lynden Dunn
M: Connor Blakely, Dion Prestia*
R: Nic Naitanui, Tom Bellchambers*
F: Jesse Hogan, Peter Wright

Dublin:
D: Grant Birchall
M: Brad Crouch, Stephen Hill*
R:
F: Brett Deledio

Strong rumour going around that CM Punk will lace up as ruck for Toronto

Here it is, the big show! Really hoping that restings & final round injuries don't hurt one of the team substantially more than the other - should be a good game 8)

Quote from: Toga on August 22, 2018, 12:13:32 AM
Here it is, the big show!

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Interesting to see Toronto strong fabourite despite all the form being Dublins way.

People must think this is round 12 with Belfast playing.

Pie will win

This all started in the 2016 off-season when Holz tried to offer me, of all people, trade advice in a patronising manner after I informed him that I was considering trading Jack Ziebell (coming off a 94.4 average) for Brad Ebert (80.1 average) + Pick 18 with Mexico City (Dublin's rival at the time) after he had enquired about him. This is the essay I received:

Quote from: Holz on September 15, 2016, 10:42:26 AM
I love JZ and this will probably hurt me getting him but im going to say it anyway. If i were in your shoes I would keep Jack Ziebell. He can be a big big ball winner, with Nick Dal Santo and Brent Harvey leaving the club he is now pretty much 2nd in the midfield in leadership after Swallow and he is better then swallow as much as i love Swallow. I can see him demand the ball more in a more experienced team. The second component is JZ can be thrown up forward which means he is always a shot of DPP but even more so with the retirement of Petire and soon to be Waite i can see a forward line of Wood Daw Brown. I dont think we will have the luxury or the need to stick him one out in the goal square which happens from time to time which drops his average.

so i can see 95-100 on the cards for him.

Ebert I would 100% avoid and this is not so that you take my offer but my adivce is to keep JZ. I have looked into his numbers and in 2014 his role was head to head with the best opponent playing in the middle, in this role he was a good scorer, despite me and i know quite a few who didnt rate him that highly as a player. He continued to me that good scoring role with a massive 112 average in the first half of the year.

Then however to me it looks like he has been pushed onto a wing and in the second half of the year he went on to average 81. As you know he went on to average 80 this year and he played predominantly on the wing. My guess is that Jroo said ohh he is down as port had a down year, to me this is not true his role which he has been playing for the last 1.5 years is enough evidence to suggest this is the trend.

Pick 18 is fine but its certainly not worth a 15 point downgrade. You would almost have to absolutely hit the pick on the head for this trade to be fair as i think Jroo is selling Ebert as a 95 mid on a down year. Where i see him as a winger who has averaged 80 in that role in the last 33 games of data which is significant.

The reason i offered you birchall and the pick is birchall is older but as a 85 defender thats equivalent value as a 95 mid. Then because of age i give you the pick.

my advice is dont downgrade your starters scoring power thats not the way to contend. Keeping JZ is probably the optimal way of contending.

I also want to make an offer in for pittard with say weits/birchall with picks but i think keeping pittard would be the smart move. If your selling either come to me before you do and ill put in an offer as i would rather have them then another team, but for the sake of Toronto i would keep both as colecting stars is important and you have 2 there. Ebert is not a star and his role is no longer fantasy productive. JZ is an absoulte star, i would say he is clearly in Norths top 2-3 players, something you cant say about Ebert. Pittard is actually far better then Ebert.

you have a good list

Pittard Ruggles
Macrae, JZ, Selwood, Kerridge
Kreuz
Walker Watts Degoey Braysahw
Hopper Pick 3

you can build around that list its actually quality and you drafted the draft rebuild wisely. My advice from someone who has gone from bottom to top is dont push it with a good list like yours let it build naturally. I took 1-2 years to make the move to contender with the likes of Brayshaw Hopper Pick 3 coming up you can certainly do that. But JZ Pittard is the back bone.

Clearly you need to work on the backline abit but again that will come. You do have pick 20 and 22 that can be used to draft wisely. or packaged for a player. I would shop that around.

I hope im not coming off as patronising as im sure you know what your doing but i have been in the worlds for 6 years and am legit trying to help. You have a great list so the likes of Dublin and Mexico shouldnt be trying to poach the players. Thats why i will step down and advise you to hold but as i said if you are to sell i will try to beat out the other clubs.

Coming into WXVs, I had heard around the traps that Holz was a slippery customer, notorious for talking shower for the benefit of himself and his team. But I was yet to experience it first-hand myself. From that point onwards I knew that I was dealing with a manipulative, scheming, deceitful bloke who thought he was better than everyone else, and that struck a chord with me. He thought he would just come in, act all innocent, get in my ear and expect me to hand over all of my good players like he has done to just about every team for the last 7 years in order to get Dublin to where they are today. Nah fam. The Edgelord was never falling for that shower. I proceeded to bury his ass in my return PM and that humbled him... for the time being anyway.

A couple of key pieces of advice that I would like to reflect on quickly:

• Keep Jack Ziebell and Jasper Pittard, they are both stars and this is the optimal way of contending.
Ziebell and Pittard were never stars. They were both bog average players at best whose numbers happened to spike for a season. Two seasons later and JZ is barely WXV starting midfield quality, while Jasper has become irrelevant. Keeping these lads would not have been the optimal way of contending, it would have been a huge missed opportunity.

• Let your list develop naturally, don't push it with aggressive trading.
Sitting on your hands gets you absolutely nowhere folks. Imagine if I held onto guys like Pittard, Ziebell, Scott Selwood, Kerridge, Kreuzer, Walker and Watts just because they were decent at the time? None of those players had any improvement left in them and were never going to be good enough to take Toronto to the promised land. 'Downgrading' them for players that were perceived to be worth less (but I believed could match them) and using their value to acquire extra collateral which was then used in future deals as bargaining power has been the recipe to our success.

I still get a good laugh out of seeing Tom Ruggles and Sam Kerridge listed as players to build a list around. Comedy gold.

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Quote from: Holz on December 14, 2016, 05:04:21 PM
The smart move for you would be moving on Macrae in my opinion its very obvious he will only have DPP for 1 year so i reckon he is priced as a mid but then he has a premium for his 2017 DPP.

This is when The Edgelord's blood began to boil. The cow didn't learn his lesson and decided to come back for more. To suggest that the only teenager in the history of the game to manage a 40 disposal game had peaked at the age of 22 and should be cashed in was laughable. I buried him for the second time in three months. This time making sure he was unconscious before I shovelled the dirt over his lifeless corpse.

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Quote from: Holz on May 19, 2017, 10:58:28 AM
Am i playing Toronto Wolves this week?

If so calling a big percentage booster.

Fast forward to Round 9 of the 2017 season. Toronto v Dublin. The Edgelord had made massive inroads in the 2016/17 trade period and assembled what he believed was a top 8 quality side, however mass injuries to key players ensured that we didn't reach our full potential over the first two months of the season. Holz decided he would be a big man and pick on us at our most vulnerable point. A fire was lit inside of us as a result and the Wolves went on to second-top score for the round... behind Dublin. This just motivated The Edgelord even more.

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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 12, 2017, 11:04:57 AM
Hey mate,

Just an update. Holz is still trying his best, and he is now telling me that he could get Dunstan from JROO

Not going to lie, I much prefer Dunstan over Redden etc, and if he can in fact offer us Dunstan I'd be inclined to go with that

At this stage, I think we will either deal with Holz if he can offer us Dunstan, or we will just keep Jelwood

Sorry to disappoint you man. This has been a rollercoaster

Now RaisyDaisy makes a guest appearance. As if things couldn't get any worse for The Edgelord. This was his PM to inform me that Holz had sniped my deal with New York of Jack Redden + Dom Tyson for Joel Selwood + Alex Sexton. Even when I had nothing to do with Dublin, Holz was still finding ways to bring Toronto down. He was secretly shower scared of the powerhouse The Edgelord was building. Despite telling RD on many occasions that Redden would average 95+ in 2018, the mind-control from Holz was far too strong and Joel Selwood was eventually traded to Dublin for Hugh Greenwood + Jacob Weitering.

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Two weeks left of the 2017/18 trade period. Holz is seen talking shower on Discord about The Edgelord trading in Tom Bellchambers (+ Wayne Milera Jnr) for Aaron Hall. This is where it pays to watch games of football and not just base everything on the film Moneyball. Hall's numbers looked pretty decent on paper, but the bloke doesn't run both ways. He's always been a huge defensive liability but has been able to get away with it at a soft club and under a soft coach. As soon as the Suns brought in Dew his papers were stamped. Bellchambers was on the other end of the spectrum. A simple glance at his numbers wouldn't have filled you with much confidence. 18 games his most in a season? Only two seasons above an 80 average in his career? He might have averaged 91.7 in 2017, but that was only from 13 games. Had to be a fluke, right? Wrong. Clear #1 ruck at his club. Finally got some continuity in his footy and was fully fit for the first time in his career. You don't have to be particularly good to score well as the #1 ruck but TBC recorded an elite hitout-to-advantage rate of 34.6% in 2017 so he was certainly no dud, and this will prove to be a premiership winning trade. You got lucky here, cow. Leuenberger is going to score a farewell ton anyway.

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Quote from: Holz on January 23, 2018, 01:28:20 PM
Tier 2: New York, Toronto, Cairo, PNL, Beijing, Moscow

Had us as a Tier 2 team at the start of the season despite The Edgelord pulling off the greatest trade period ever seen. More ignorance.

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Quote from: Holz on April 09, 2018, 10:34:00 AM
For the title I see 3 major threats.

Seoul Islanders and NDT.

Certainly feel there is a 95% chance the winner comes from that group + Dublin.

Quote from: Holz on April 11, 2018, 05:10:27 PM
In all honesty the higher up the ladder Toronto is the better for me, id much rather face you in the finals then one of the big 3.

Quote from: Holz on May 07, 2018, 03:10:10 PM
I really hope Toronto can back up this talk in the finals.

Quote from: Holz on June 24, 2018, 05:28:04 PM
This is good for adamant.

Can start getting used to losing, with finals aproaching

Quote from: Holz on June 27, 2018, 06:49:11 PM
I think everyone including Adamant knows id crush him full strength

Still didn't rate us despite dominating the competition. Let's see how these look after the weekend.

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Holzman, I never just called you out for no reason. The Edgelord doesn't forget anything. I hope you soak up the last few days as the reigning WXV premier, because come Sunday evening, the Dublin empire will have come crashing down and the Toronto dynasty will officially begin.

I am The Edgelord.

Give the man the premiership!

That timestamp though fills me with great joy

Now that's Crispy

I was having a good chuckle reading all of that until you decided to drag me into your beef with Holz - making private messages public? That's dogging the boys. Not even GL would do that

For the record, Holz and I had been discussing a Jelwood trade for a long time before you came along with your offer, and although Redden had a good year (I never doubted he wouldn't go 95+ fwiw) I'd still rather Dunstan and  Greenwood (which is what we got) over Redden and Tyson

To suggest Holz had some sort of say over our decision is both laughable and insulting. I thought you were better than that

And Toronto take the early lead!

Why thank you Ada im flattered. Putting that much effort into Dublin and Myself is the ultimate sign of respect. The feelings are not mutual at this point you are just one of 15 teams without a premiership and you took me out in the home and away so that puts you on the level of London and Dillos, so I will make this post much more brief.

On the JZ front looked pretty accurate, I said he can be thrown up forward and is a future shot of getting DPP that looking like good advice at the moment with JZ now a 83 average 27 year old forward and Ebert a 86 average 28 year old mid, using Meow Meows formula JZ is now equivalent to a 93 average mid so still quite abit more valuable then Ebert.

"my advice is dont downgrade your starters scoring power thats not the way to contend. " very good advice and its what your doing and what your continuing to do in all your trade talks this year. Its good to see you took some of my advice, your welcome for making the grand final. You where smart to listen to me.

I was right on Macrae too he did lose dpp, that was my prediction and it came true. If you are picking all the wrong calls i made (i make a lot of calls) then  I do find it funny that i even mentioned the injury risk of Belly and he is out injured this week.

So,
JZ chance of DPP - getting DPP
Macrae will lose DPP - lost DPP
Belly is an injury risk - injured

shows i must be right most of the time as even these pre selected negative calls for me and "good calls" from you arent coming across that strongly in your favour.

Money ball has got me 4 grand final appearances and 2 flags (and counting) so the fact i dont even have to watch the game to be far more successful then you. You really should smash me this week, as i haven't watched a game in almost 2 years.

It pretty fitting that Macrae will be the captain of Toronto, as they are pretty much the dogs. Did nothing for 62 years and then spikes up for one flukey year and the fans all come out of the closet and start smack talking, when they where quiet the whole time they where down the bottom. Hopefully you keep this activity when you slip down the ladder. Dublin entering the 4th grand final in 5 years, going for the back to back and the first 3 time premiers.

Anyone can win on the day so congrats for getting here thats most of the battle. I will be here next year and the year after, hopefully you can walk the walk and not be all talk. Im not sure worlds will be around in 62 years for Toronto to challenge again.

Well that may be one of the greatest posts in FF history.

I propose that the winner of the Grand Final be awarded 6 stars!

Quote from: Levi434 on August 23, 2018, 12:11:31 PM
Well that may be one of the greatest posts in FF history.

I propose that the winner of the Grand Final be awarded 6 stars!

Ada needs to get to 5 first.

a lowly 4 star guy.

Quote from: Holz on August 23, 2018, 12:13:15 PM

Quote from: Levi434 on August 23, 2018, 12:11:31 PM
Well that may be one of the greatest posts in FF history.

I propose that the winner of the Grand Final be awarded 6 stars!

Ada needs to get to 5 first.

a lowly 4 star guy.

Stars mean nothing honestly. Levi, Edgelord and meow are the 3 best posters on this entire site yet we have a total of like 6 between us. lmao

Quote from: Levi434 on August 23, 2018, 12:54:23 PM

Quote from: Holz on August 23, 2018, 12:13:15 PM

Quote from: Levi434 on August 23, 2018, 12:11:31 PM
Well that may be one of the greatest posts in FF history.

I propose that the winner of the Grand Final be awarded 6 stars!

Ada needs to get to 5 first.

a lowly 4 star guy.

Stars mean nothing honestly. Levi, Edgelord and meow are the 3 best posters on this entire site yet we have a total of like 6 between us. lmao

1 flag between you guys too, Levi your better then those two, dont sell yourself short.

I think the main thing to take away from all this is that Holz used the formula to back up his argument.

Quote from: meow meow on August 23, 2018, 01:21:59 PM
I think the main thing to take away from all this is that Holz used the formula to back up his argument.

Its quite a good way of judging value, plus im not going to reveal my formula

You think you know me

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On this day, I see clearly.
Everything has come to life.
A Bitter place and a broken dream
And we'll leave it all behind.

144 average for that listed team.

148 for Dublin

Well it's a lot easier to win when you can chip dump trades to yourself.

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Going to be a battle for the last spot in the XV real tough selection.

59 89 62 63 61 from Henry since he has been switched forward. Playing GC and named in the forward pocket. 67- 5 week average

57 112 70 inj 70 67 inj inj from Hill, named on the ball against the pies. 75- 5 week average


Hill you would think is the no brainer being the far more proven fantasy player. Coming back from injury though and Henry playing the Suns this will be a tough choice.

Buenos Aires Armadillos

Team Format: Traditional

D: Jimmy Webster, Tom Doedee, Jamie MacMillan, Riley Bonner
M: Ed Curnow, David Armitage, Jarrod Berry, Trent Dumont
R: Oliver Florent
F: Shane Edwards, Cale Hooker, Jy Simpkin, Darcy Parish
U: Cameron Rayner, Adam Cerra
E: Chris Masten, Aiden Bonar, Shaun Atley

C:
VC:
RP:
NR:

Seoul

Def: Touhy, Salem, Haynes, Marchbank

Mid:Dangerfield, Kelly, Oliver, Swallow

Ruck: Mcevoy

Fwd: Curnow, Daniel, Parfitt, Trengove

Int: Shiels, Smith

Emg: Thomas, Weller, Obrien

Congratulations to Dublin for taking out the 2018 WXV Premiership!  :)

Toronto has forfeited the game.

As a show of good sportsmanship, PNL is willing to step in for Toronto to save the day :P.

Premiers*

What is going on? This is a bit of a let down...

Congrats Dublin. Not the way you'd want to win I know, but due to circumstances it's the only option

It's a shame that such a great year has to end this way, but I fully support Purps decision and look forward to what's to come

Dublin were gonna win anyway, contratz holz

Actually... if Toronto have been kicked out from Thurs night surely NDT should have progressed through!  ;)

Quote from: Ricochet on August 25, 2018, 01:16:21 PM
Actually... if Toronto have been kicked out from Thurs night surely NDT should have progressed through!  ;)

I did consider a lucky loser... but felt it creates an unfair precedence. Say if Dublin would have beaten Toronto fairly, but lost to New Delhi, they shouldn't have lost the premiership because of some petulant child.

Quote from: Purple 77 on August 25, 2018, 01:34:12 PM

Quote from: Ricochet on August 25, 2018, 01:16:21 PM
Actually... if Toronto have been kicked out from Thurs night surely NDT should have progressed through!  ;)

I did consider a lucky loser... but felt it creates an unfair precedence. Say if Dublin would have beaten Toronto fairly, but lost to New Delhi, they shouldn't have lost the premiership because of some petulant child.

Ha yeh it wouldnt have mattered, we're screwed with injuries atm

The Brodie doesn't stop.

He wants his award.

Quote from: Ricochet on August 25, 2018, 02:00:43 PM

Quote from: Purple 77 on August 25, 2018, 01:34:12 PM

Quote from: Ricochet on August 25, 2018, 01:16:21 PM
Actually... if Toronto have been kicked out from Thurs night surely NDT should have progressed through!  ;)

I did consider a lucky loser... but felt it creates an unfair precedence. Say if Dublin would have beaten Toronto fairly, but lost to New Delhi, they shouldn't have lost the premiership because of some petulant child.

Ha yeh it wouldnt have mattered, we're screwed with injuries atm

Ok so just quietly, we went 1600+  :-X

Saved one of our best scores of the year for when it didnt matter

Dublin: 2018 WXV PREMIERS

Through regretful circumstances, Dublin has taken home its 3rd WXV premiership to solidify its place as the WXVs most successful team ever!

A huge congratulations to Holz & Dublin, whom continue to show how its done in Worlds.

Toronto Wolves (0.0.0) lost to Dublin Destroyers (23.8.146)

Best
Toronto: Nil
Dublin: Joel Selwood, Dustin Martin, Todd Goldstein, Justin Westhoff, Jack Riewoldt, Tom Hawkins

Late Changes
Toronto: Nil
Dublin: Nil

WXV Debut
Toronto: Nil
Dublin: Nil

Club debut
Toronto: Nil
Dublin: Nil

DUBLIN wins the 2018 WXV PREMIERSHIP!
TORONTO finishes 2nd

TOM HAWKINS wins a FINALS CHAMPION Medal

2018 PREMIERSHIP PLAYERS:

Alex Rance
Steven May
Tom McDonald
Phil Davis
Matt Crouch
Joel Selwood
Dustin Martin
Todd Goldstein
Jack Gunston
Justin Westhoff
Jack Riewoldt
Tom Hawkins
Majak Daw
Jack Henry
Nick Holman

Pyongyang: 2018 Reserves Premiers

Despite being outnumbered by one player, the Chollimas have defeated the Armada who were left to rue the late withdrawals of Mitch W Brown & Harry Taylor to replace Riley Bonner & Tom Doedee in the would-be seniors.

Congrats Seoul!

Pyongyang Chollimas (20.6.126) def La Plata Armada (18.6.114)

Best
Pyongyang: Lachie Weller, Kamdyn McIntoshJosh Thomas, Willie Rioli
La Plata: Jesse Joyce, Cameron Polson

PYONGYANG wins the 2018 Reserves Premiership
LA PLATA finishes 2nd

2018 PREMIERSHIP PLAYERS:

Josh Thomas
David Myers
Lachie Weller
Travis Varcoe
Kamdyn McIntosh
Willie Rioli
Sam Rowe
Cam McCarthy
Lochie O'Brien

And ze proof:

	Toronto Wolves					Dublin Destroyers
POS	Traditional	SCO	PEN	ADJ	POS	Traditional	SCO	PEN	ADJ
D1		0		0	D1	Alex Rance	74		74
D2		0		0	D2	Steven May	82		82
D3		0		0	D3	Tom McDonald	98		98
D4		0		0	D4	Phil Davis	79		79
M1		0		0	M1	Matt Crouch	88		88
M2		0		0	M2	Joel Selwood	102		102
M3		0		0	M3	Rory Sloane	0	DNP	0
M4		0		0	M4	Dustin Martin	104		104
R1		0		0	R1	Todd Goldstein	125		125
F1		0		0	F1	Jack Gunston	88		88
F2		0		0	F2	Justin Westhoff	120		120
F3		0		0	F3	Jack Riewoldt	109		109
F4		0		0	F4	Tom Hawkins	144		144
U1		0		0	U1 (RUC FWD)	Majak Daw	74		74
U2		0		0	U2 (FWD )	Jack Henry	51		51
E1		0	DNP	0	E1 (MID )	Nick Holman	35		35
E2		0	DNP	0	E2 (DEF )	Oscar McDonald	74	DNP	0
E3		0	DNP	0	E3 (FWD )	Elliot Himmelberg	71	DNP	0
C		0		0	C	Matt Crouch	88		88
VC		0		0	VC	Joel Selwood	102		0
HA		0		0			0		0
		Total:	0	0			Total:	1461	15

Full Name	WXV Club	F4
Chris Masten	Buenos Aires Armadillos	67
Mark LeCras	Buenos Aires Armadillos	65
Chris Mayne	Buenos Aires Armadillos	35
Shaun Atley	Buenos Aires Armadillos	63
Will Hayward	Buenos Aires Armadillos	65
Jesse Joyce	Buenos Aires Armadillos	71
Aiden Bonar	Buenos Aires Armadillos	39
Michael Rischitelli	Buenos Aires Armadillos	56
Jacob Heron	Buenos Aires Armadillos	33
Cameron Polson	Buenos Aires Armadillos	75
Josh Thomas	Seoul Magpies	89
David Myers	Seoul Magpies	61
Lachie Weller	Seoul Magpies	87
Travis Varcoe	Seoul Magpies	53
Kamdyn McIntosh	Seoul Magpies	90
Willie Rioli	Seoul Magpies	77
Sam Rowe	Seoul Magpies	57
Cam McCarthy	Seoul Magpies	63
Lochie O'Brien	Seoul Magpies	54

Toronto with the lowest score in WXV history.  :P

Well done Dulin, and Holz!

Quote from: Ricochet on August 25, 2018, 12:52:15 PM
Premiers*

Congrats Dublin & Holz - a pity about the circumstances but clearly you were a powerhouse again this year and well deserved another flag.

Pity we didn't get you this week as I think 'Jing would've given you a run for your money ;)

I can't respect a team who puts up a lousy 146 to claim the flag.

Thanks guys, not a ideal situation. I consider that game v Seoul the GF

Looks like nobody wanted to the Dublin Nightmare in the end.

Special thanks to purp for another great year.

Pyongyang the real premiers here!

Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 27, 2018, 07:46:54 PM
Pyongyang the real premiers here!

1. Won a grand final
2. Aren't cap cheats

Dublin can't claim either of those