Crows are in real trouble though! People saying we can get a win over the WCE (Our main rival) Next week cos they're missing the twin towers. I think crows are in free fall, we'll be lucky if West Coast can get enough injuries to counter and beat us!
I still don't know if Lynch, Sloane or the Gov will be here next year however. I still am yet to hear a sufficient reason why they will not be! A silly camp? Who cares. I do not believe some silly camp is the sole reason, but something has gone wrong
Warren Tredrae had an interesting perspective on the Crows
https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/expert-opinion/warren-tredrea/the-crows-have-gone-from-the-envy-of-the-afl-to-alsorans-in-less-than-a-season/news-story/a368b9dc5e9878e25511edfb49bb197d
You're telling me West Coast is more of a rival than Port Adelaide?
Quote from: fanTCfool on June 22, 2018, 08:45:38 PM
You're telling me West Coast is more of a rival than Port Adelaide?
We’re on a different level to the Crows :P After next week their rivalcwill be Carlton (no offence mate ;))
Don Pyke press conference at 3:30pm
Best thing they've done all year, getting rid of Collective Minds. Fair chance they'll keep a few of their players who reportedly would walk out if Collective Minds were a part of the next pre-season.
Look at that, day after CM gets dumped, Tom Lynch signs on.
Could just be a coincidence.
Funny how a supposed Richmond supporter tags into crows boards more than Mitchell finds the footy :P
I was suspecting given his absence that Lynchy was one of those affected by the so called "Training camp" (get over it, you're all grown men ..... ) But now he has re-signed! I suspect that the Gov and Sloane will too, but if they don't.
Crows may end up with 4 or even 5 draft picks inside the top 20! I am hoping they can shuffle a few on to either Carlton Brisbane, pending who finishes last, for the rights to snare Jack Lukosius!
I might even given e have three top 20 picks already in an apparent bumper year, a thread devoted as to who I think the crows will be targeting in the draft! If we cannot or don't try to get higher in the draft, I expect atm they are looking at Connor Rozee and Izac Rankine with what would be our current first pick.
I would expect one of these two to be at 8-12 pick given where we may finish, which will not be higher than 11 imo but, stranger has happened! Richmond did win a flag :o so who can tell what we can do with Lairdy, Lynchy, Sloaney, Gov, Eddie possible even Smithy back soon!
I mean, how well did everyone expect us to go wth 5-8 A graders out most the year? The media wants to call the "Camp" As the blame whereas, the footballers in media call injuries and lack f confidence after a staggering GF loss as the main reason
Basically as usual I say, the media just suck!
Quote from: tbagrocks on June 24, 2018, 05:59:28 PM
Funny how a supposed Richmond supporter tags into crows boards more than Mitchell finds the footy :P
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I was suspecting given his absence that Lynchy was one of those affected by the so called "Training camp" (get over it, you're all grown men ..... ) But now he has re-signed! I suspect that the Gov and Sloane will too, but if they don't.
Either he was affected by it, or he signed a few days ago but wanted to douse the news in the middle of a round of football and follow it up with news of a resigning.... Sounds like the sorta stuff Adelaide would pull.
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I mean, how well did everyone expect us to go wth 5-8 A graders out most the year? The media wants to call the "Camp" As the blame whereas, the footballers in media call injuries and lack f confidence after a staggering GF loss as the main reason
Basically as usual I say, the media just suck!
Most teams don't lose 5-8 "A-Graders" to soft tissue injuries because they manage their strength and conditioning better, particularly after Collingwood a couple of years ago. Obviously Crows didn't learn from their mistakes.
Anyway, all said and done it's a good bye weekend for the Crows getting rid of the power ranger stance and signing on Lynchy. Still plenty of time to turn the season around.
I have a theory...
When Phil Walsh passed, it brought the team together stronger than ever, pure emotion and using your teammates to lean on can create a very strong environment, especially when a tragedy occurs. There is always a massive crash from this which I think is what it happening now.
My reasoning for this theory is that about 5 years ago we were playing ressies footy for my club, one of our promising young 21 years had a heart attack on the field and later that day passed away in hospital. Was absolutely crushing for the club, as another player had become a paraplegic 3-4 years prior to that. Some players left because it was too much to take, whilst the rest of us banded together and built a very strong team mentality with everyone playing for each other and attending every event the footy club had that year, from the 18 year old colts all the way up to the pushing 40's group. Was prob the best year of footy I have ever felt a part of, this continued into the following year, but then slowly the feeling started to dissipate and a lot the younger guys who played with the player who died, started to get jaded and I really think it took about 2+ years for those guys to really feel the effects of his death, not to mention the rest of us that were on the field.
Can you stop locking our threads every time a troll comes along? Just sort them out and let us discuss our footy team please :)
Quote from: Jay on July 11, 2018, 07:58:07 PM
Can you stop locking our threads every time a troll comes along? Just sort them out and let us discuss our footy team please :)
Admin/HP told us to lock the thread and to keep it locked
Maybe when some of the posters here can grow up the threads won't get locked. I'll keep pointing out that I never attack anyone and I stay on topic. But I won't cop getting abused by trolls
The threads are getting locked because legends like GoLions and tbagrocks just come in and abuse the shower out of me and any opinion I have.
I can't even say that 500k is a lot of money to give up a year (the most in the history of the AFL) without them jumping down my throat.
I'm not doing anything wrong, so either ignore me or get over it because I'm not going anywhere. It dissapoints me that the threads get locked because it's closing down a chance to have a meaningful discussion. If members are attacking other members they should get banned, not lock the thread.
Quote from: Trindacut on July 12, 2018, 07:08:44 AM
Maybe when some of the posters here can grow up the threads won't get locked. I'll keep pointing out that I never attack anyone and I stay on topic. But I won't cop getting abused by trolls
The threads are getting locked because legends like GoLions and tbagrocks just come in and abuse the shower out of me and any opinion I have.
I can't even say that 500k is a lot of money to give up a year (the most in the history of the AFL) without them jumping down my throat.
I'm not doing anything wrong, so either ignore me or get over it because I'm not going anywhere. It dissapoints me that the threads get locked because it's closing down a chance to have a meaningful discussion. If members are attacking other members they should get banned, not lock the thread.
Hahahahahahahaha ok mate. When Josh Kelly re-signed with gws, did we speak about how much money he had potentially given up a year? What about when Dusty re-signed, did we talk about it then? Or when every other decent player in the history of all footy players ever have re-signed, what about then? Because i think (and this might just be me, who knows really), that generally when a player of Sloane's calibre re-signs, people generally say something along the lines of "great news for the club and for player x" etc etc.
But then you, in your glorious wisdom, see Sloane (a Crows player) re-sign, and the first thing you talk about is how much money he has given up each year. Nice.
But i think the best part, is after making this pointless and meaningless comment which offers zero value to anybody on this planet, you think someone questioning the point of that comment is "abusing the shower out of you". And you even gave the ol' "Sorry, i forgot that i have to spell things out for you" as well!
Maybe if, and I'm not sure if this is actually possible for you or not, but if one day you said something useful or positive on the Crows board, people wouldn't think you're a massive troll, and treat you as such. Just maybe.
Quote from: GoLions on July 12, 2018, 08:58:34 AM
Quote from: Trindacut on July 12, 2018, 07:08:44 AM
Maybe when some of the posters here can grow up the threads won't get locked. I'll keep pointing out that I never attack anyone and I stay on topic. But I won't cop getting abused by trolls
The threads are getting locked because legends like GoLions and tbagrocks just come in and abuse the shower out of me and any opinion I have.
I can't even say that 500k is a lot of money to give up a year (the most in the history of the AFL) without them jumping down my throat.
I'm not doing anything wrong, so either ignore me or get over it because I'm not going anywhere. It dissapoints me that the threads get locked because it's closing down a chance to have a meaningful discussion. If members are attacking other members they should get banned, not lock the thread.
Hahahahahahahaha ok mate. When Josh Kelly re-signed with gws, did we speak about how much money he had potentially given up a year? What about when Dusty re-signed, did we talk about it then? Or when every other decent player in the history of all footy players ever have re-signed, what about then? Because i think (and this might just be me, who knows really), that generally when a player of Sloane's calibre re-signs, people generally say something along the lines of "great news for the club and for player x" etc etc.
But then you, in your glorious wisdom, see Sloane (a Crows player) re-sign, and the first thing you talk about is how much money he has given up each year. Nice.
But i think the best part, is after making this pointless and meaningless comment which offers zero value to anybody on this planet, you think someone questioning the point of that comment is "abusing the shower out of you". And you even gave the ol' "Sorry, i forgot that i have to spell things out for you" as well!
Maybe if, and I'm not sure if this is actually possible for you or not, but if one day you said something useful or positive on the Crows board, people wouldn't think you're a massive troll, and treat you as such. Just maybe.
The comment about how much he's given up is a positive thing for the Crows, how do you not get that? I really am spelling it out for you. I just didn't think anyone would see a comment about how much money he sacrificed as a bad thing for Crows supporters.
When Dusty resigned, everyone commented that he's a legend for giving up 300k a year to stay at the Tigers.
When Kelly resigned, I said it was a smart move because the short contract pushes him out to a point where he'd be in his prime and can fetch more from either GWS or a rival. He'll also be a restricted free agent, which he wasn't when he re-signed.
Do I need to support every comment I make with a history of similar topic comments I make?? What are you suggesting??
There's so many better ways to troll the Crows board without getting into trouble though :P
Quote from: Jay on July 11, 2018, 07:58:07 PM
Can you stop locking our threads every time a troll comes along? Just sort them out and let us discuss our footy team please :)
Dito, lock the troll not he thread :o
GO CROWS
I told a young lady who's going to the footy tonigt to BOO #35, she said "Who's #35" I said Patrick Dangerfield and while your at it, hit him with a stick :P
Ok it's not nice to get a girl to fight your battles. If you see someone carted out with a stick, it's probably me :o
Quote from: tbagrocks on July 12, 2018, 07:16:34 PM
Quote from: Jay on July 11, 2018, 07:58:07 PM
Can you stop locking our threads every time a troll comes along? Just sort them out and let us discuss our footy team please :)
Dito, lock the troll not he thread :o
The threads are getting locked when you post mate. Careful what you wish for.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-07-18/versatile-crow-hampton-retires-effective-immediately
Curly Hampton has retired :o
can ppl let me know how Brodie Smith does in the reserves
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 21, 2018, 09:16:45 PM
can ppl let me know how Brodie Smith does in the reserves
25 Touches and 8 Marks. Unsure whether he played the entire game or limited minutes.
Quote from: fanTCfool on July 21, 2018, 09:33:59 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 21, 2018, 09:16:45 PM
can ppl let me know how Brodie Smith does in the reserves
25 Touches and 8 Marks. Unsure whether he played the entire game or limited minutes.
cool thanks
80% game time and looking good for a return against Port.
After almost a year, Crows defender back on park - http://m.afl.com.au/news/2018-07-21/after-almost-a-year-crows-defender-back-on-park
With almost the best line-up tonight with Smithy a week away 32 disposals today. I like Cheney so Hartigan missing doesn't bother me. Huge game for the ressies though today kicking 19 goals, but they lost to North Adelaide :P
My boy who should be playing Patrick Wilson, 42d 28k 10m 5t 12 In50 1G
When did an SANFL player last have 28 kicks? Wilson too good for state league
Cam Ellis-Yolmen 41d 7In 50
Brodie Smith 32d 7m 6In50 5Out50. PLays next week in Showdown, but for who?
Sam Gibson 34d 9m 5in50
I like this kid, Matthew Singorello. Can play imo. 26d 4m 5t 3in50. But it's his dash and ball use I like most!
Ben Jarman 3 goals 18d
Ben Davis 3 goals
Elliot Himmleberg, brother of. I like this kid too, plays KP either end. 21d 6m 5 goals ;D
Plenty to like in the state league side, a few to push for senior selection and Douglas and Mackay still out
Forgarty only 0.1 today
Quote from: tbagrocks on July 28, 2018, 07:09:01 PM
With almost the best line-up tonight with Smithy a week away 32 disposals today. I like Cheney so Hartigan missing doesn't bother me. Huge game for the ressies though today kicking 19 goals, but they lost to North Adelaide :P
My boy who should be playing Patrick Wilson, 42d 28k 10m 5t 12 In50 1G
When did an SANFL player last have 28 kicks? Wilson too good for state league
Cam Ellis-Yolmen 41d 7In 50
Brodie Smith 32d 7m 6In50 5Out50. PLays next week in Showdown, but for who?
Sam Gibson 34d 9m 5in50
I like this kid, Matthew Singorello. Can play imo. 26d 4m 5t 3in50. But it's his dash and ball use I like most!
Ben Jarman 3 goals 18d
Ben Davis 3 goals
Elliot Himmleberg, brother of. I like this kid too, plays KP either end. 21d 6m 5 goals ;D
Plenty to like in the state league side, a few to push for senior selection and Douglas and Mackay still out
Forgarty only 0.1 today
Looked a shambles. You blokes need a Dangerfield-type player in the midfield and replace Tex, he's a spud.
Reckon a few of these blokes will get a run next week.
Quote from: Trindacut on July 28, 2018, 10:39:00 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on July 28, 2018, 07:09:01 PM
With almost the best line-up tonight with Smithy a week away 32 disposals today. I like Cheney so Hartigan missing doesn't bother me. Huge game for the ressies though today kicking 19 goals, but they lost to North Adelaide :P
My boy who should be playing Patrick Wilson, 42d 28k 10m 5t 12 In50 1G
When did an SANFL player last have 28 kicks? Wilson too good for state league
Cam Ellis-Yolmen 41d 7In 50
Brodie Smith 32d 7m 6In50 5Out50. PLays next week in Showdown, but for who?
Sam Gibson 34d 9m 5in50
I like this kid, Matthew Singorello. Can play imo. 26d 4m 5t 3in50. But it's his dash and ball use I like most!
Ben Jarman 3 goals 18d
Ben Davis 3 goals
Elliot Himmleberg, brother of. I like this kid too, plays KP either end. 21d 6m 5 goals ;D
Plenty to like in the state league side, a few to push for senior selection and Douglas and Mackay still out
Forgarty only 0.1 today
Looked a shambles. You blokes need a Dangerfield-type player in the midfield and replace Tex, he's a spud.
Reckon a few of these blokes will get a run next week.
Why are you still here?
Quote from: Jay on July 29, 2018, 10:10:53 AM
Quote from: Trindacut on July 28, 2018, 10:39:00 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on July 28, 2018, 07:09:01 PM
With almost the best line-up tonight with Smithy a week away 32 disposals today. I like Cheney so Hartigan missing doesn't bother me. Huge game for the ressies though today kicking 19 goals, but they lost to North Adelaide :P
My boy who should be playing Patrick Wilson, 42d 28k 10m 5t 12 In50 1G
When did an SANFL player last have 28 kicks? Wilson too good for state league
Cam Ellis-Yolmen 41d 7In 50
Brodie Smith 32d 7m 6In50 5Out50. PLays next week in Showdown, but for who?
Sam Gibson 34d 9m 5in50
I like this kid, Matthew Singorello. Can play imo. 26d 4m 5t 3in50. But it's his dash and ball use I like most!
Ben Jarman 3 goals 18d
Ben Davis 3 goals
Elliot Himmleberg, brother of. I like this kid too, plays KP either end. 21d 6m 5 goals ;D
Plenty to like in the state league side, a few to push for senior selection and Douglas and Mackay still out
Forgarty only 0.1 today
Looked a shambles. You blokes need a Dangerfield-type player in the midfield and replace Tex, he's a spud.
Reckon a few of these blokes will get a run next week.
Why are you still here?
Maybe you should close these forums off to supporters only if you can't handle a bit of fair criticism. Tex didn't show up last night, and when the Crows were poor in the third quarter, it was very poor. Their 4th quarter wasn't very convincing either. And you can't blame injuries anymore, you've got the bulk of your players back.
I'm still here because I still love footy and I enjoy getting on here and talking about the big talking points. No one could have predicted that Adelaide would be out the eight at this end of the season. It's worth talking about.
I mean trinda does kind of have a point...
And even if he's a borderline troll, you make it so easy for him.
@tbag B Smith in for Seedsman with a hammy probably
Quote from: Trindacut on July 29, 2018, 11:38:44 AM
Maybe you should close these forums off to supporters only if you can't handle a bit of fair criticism. Tex didn't show up last night, and when the Crows were poor in the third quarter, it was very poor. Their 4th quarter wasn't very convincing either. And you can't blame injuries anymore, you've got the bulk of your players back.
I'm still here because I still love footy and I enjoy getting on here and talking about the big talking points. No one could have predicted that Adelaide would be out the eight at this end of the season. It's worth talking about.
No, I think injuries are still a pretty good reason to use considering the damage was done before our bye when we were 6-7 and were cruelled by injuries during those first 13 weeks, while dealing with all the camp bullshower, and Sloane's contract in the media. Had to go 7-2 after the bye, at least, to have any chance of making the finals but considering our draw and percentage, it was very unlikely but we're still a chance to finish 6-3 in that period, albeit small. Richmond at the G was always going to be a loss and the Melbourne game was a fixture which we lost last year too, they seem to have the wood over us lately, but if you told Crows supporters during the bye that we would've gone 2-1 against the Eags, Cats, and Demons, most would've taken it, it's a decent result considering everything. Also, just because we have the bulk of our players back now, doesn't mean they're completely fit, long term ones like Sloane and McGovern, and constant, short term ones to Betts etc. are gonna take a hit on match fitness and since more than half our list has suffered an injury this year, it's not hard to understand we are where we are.
Also, 3.5 to 1.1 in the last quarter is pretty convincing, especially in the conditions, the rain and wind at the ground was brutal, and we finished the game with 2 more scoring shots; make the most of our opportunities in the first half and not butcher shots from the goal square in the last, we win that game, despite the awful 3rd quarter.
On Tex, you'll struggle to find a Crows supporter who won't say he's been awful since he injured his glute against the Suns in R6, he looks slow and for someone who relies so much on his leading, since he's not a contested mark and never will be, he just can't do that at the moment, defenders are able to get a fist in there so easily. He barely did a pre-season with the Plantar Fascia issue he had, that paired with the glute problem, it's not surprising to see him struggling so much. Also, when the club said he was he was going through a 'mini pre-season' before returning after the bye, and then rushing him back against Freo after a couple of losses, I don't think that helped him at all, he should be put on ice for the rest of the year. The management of players this year has been atrocious, Sloane injuring his foot against the Tigers in R2 and then playing the next two games where he looked awful, to missing the next nine games because of his foot, even though the injury he picked up against Richmond and the one that kept him out for so long were seperate, he still shouldn't have played.
Hopefully the club can learn from this year, get rid of Burton and Hass, who I can't believe we hired after the injury issues they had when they were at Brisbane, find a new ruck since Sauce is cooked, get a good preseason in with no camp rubbish and focus on football to attack 2019 with a full, fit list, actually looking forward to it.
Oh, and what do you mean no one could have predicted Adelaide would be out the eight at this end of the season? Didn't you have us 13th on your ladder? Or are you admitting that was a troll?
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 30, 2018, 05:07:01 AM
@tbag B Smith in for Seedsman with a hammy probably
Most likely, yeah, looking forward to watching Brodie out there :-*
If your team can't do well, you at least want to stop your arch rivals from doing well. I'm worried that these guys will turn it on this week and put a big dent in our season.
Quote from: PowerBug on July 30, 2018, 03:00:29 PM
If your team can't do well, you at least want to stop your arch rivals from doing well. I'm worried that these guys will turn it on this week and put a big dent in our season.
Wowee its a big game for Port, Win could be 3rd, lose could be 9th :o
Might have to go for the Crows just for the drama haha
Quote from: TomK on July 30, 2018, 12:48:19 PM
Quote from: Trindacut on July 29, 2018, 11:38:44 AM
Maybe you should close these forums off to supporters only if you can't handle a bit of fair criticism. Tex didn't show up last night, and when the Crows were poor in the third quarter, it was very poor. Their 4th quarter wasn't very convincing either. And you can't blame injuries anymore, you've got the bulk of your players back.
I'm still here because I still love footy and I enjoy getting on here and talking about the big talking points. No one could have predicted that Adelaide would be out the eight at this end of the season. It's worth talking about.
No, I think injuries are still a pretty good reason to use considering the damage was done before our bye when we were 6-7 and were cruelled by injuries during those first 13 weeks, while dealing with all the camp bullshower, and Sloane's contract in the media. Had to go 7-2 after the bye, at least, to have any chance of making the finals but considering our draw and percentage, it was very unlikely but we're still a chance to finish 6-3 in that period, albeit small. Richmond at the G was always going to be a loss and the Melbourne game was a fixture which we lost last year too, they seem to have the wood over us lately, but if you told Crows supporters during the bye that we would've gone 2-1 against the Eags, Cats, and Demons, most would've taken it, it's a decent result considering everything. Also, just because we have the bulk of our players back now, doesn't mean they're completely fit, long term ones like Sloane and McGovern, and constant, short term ones to Betts etc. are gonna take a hit on match fitness and since more than half our list has suffered an injury this year, it's not hard to understand we are where we are.
Also, 3.5 to 1.1 in the last quarter is pretty convincing, especially in the conditions, the rain and wind at the ground was brutal, and we finished the game with 2 more scoring shots; make the most of our opportunities in the first half and not butcher shots from the goal square in the last, we win that game, despite the awful 3rd quarter.
On Tex, you'll struggle to find a Crows supporter who won't say he's been awful since he injured his glute against the Suns in R6, he looks slow and for someone who relies so much on his leading, since he's not a contested mark and never will be, he just can't do that at the moment, defenders are able to get a fist in there so easily. He barely did a pre-season with the Plantar Fascia issue he had, that paired with the glute problem, it's not surprising to see him struggling so much. Also, when the club said he was he was going through a 'mini pre-season' before returning after the bye, and then rushing him back against Freo after a couple of losses, I don't think that helped him at all, he should be put on ice for the rest of the year. The management of players this year has been atrocious, Sloane injuring his foot against the Tigers in R2 and then playing the next two games where he looked awful, to missing the next nine games because of his foot, even though the injury he picked up against Richmond and the one that kept him out for so long were seperate, he still shouldn't have played.
Hopefully the club can learn from this year, get rid of Burton and Hass, who I can't believe we hired after the injury issues they had when they were at Brisbane, find a new ruck since Sauce is cooked, get a good preseason in with no camp rubbish and focus on football to attack 2019 with a full, fit list, actually looking forward to it.
Yeah fair enough. I don't think it accounts for enough but that might be a bit harsh given that one game separates 3rd from 9th.
Tick on Sauce, tick on Burton and Hass, tick on 'no rubbish' during preseason, tick on management of player injuries being atrocious.
Quote from: TomK on July 30, 2018, 12:48:19 PM
Oh, and what do you mean no one could have predicted Adelaide would be out the eight at this end of the season? Didn't you have us 13th on your ladder? Or are you admitting that was a troll?
Either a troll.... or genius? Or both? I genuinely thought that the Crows wouldn't make it. Didn't like a lot of what I was seeing in the back half of last year and thought they were good but overrated in a close season. Bit like how Tiges are overrated this season. They're very good, the Tiges, but they aren't like your Hawks or Geelong in their prime.
Quote from: Gigantor on July 30, 2018, 04:17:21 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on July 30, 2018, 03:00:29 PM
If your team can't do well, you at least want to stop your arch rivals from doing well. I'm worried that these guys will turn it on this week and put a big dent in our season.
Wowee its a big game for Port, Win could be 3rd, lose could be 9th :o
Might have to go for the Crows just for the drama haha
Should be a cracking game, if I wasn't working I'd be watching it.
So easy to forget the number of injuries we had when Hass and Burton were in charge. very few this year so hopefully Adelaide can see this as well.
Quote from: Gigantor on July 30, 2018, 04:17:21 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on July 30, 2018, 03:00:29 PM
If your team can't do well, you at least want to stop your arch rivals from doing well. I'm worried that these guys will turn it on this week and put a big dent in our season.
Wowee its a big game for Port, Win could be 3rd, lose could be 9th :o
Might have to go for the Crows just for the drama haha
Please no :'(
CEY should be playing seniors, is definitely good enough. If Adelaide won't play him, they should trade him.
Heh Tex was late to the joint presser with Boaky, caught in traffic. Every little thing going wrong for him at the moment haha
Quote from: SilverLion on July 31, 2018, 10:47:56 AM
CEY should be playing seniors, is definitely good enough. If Adelaide won't play him, they should trade him.
Rumour has it that Brisbane have expressed some interest in him, Not sure which I prefer Wallis or CEY.
CEY would be good alongside Cripps I reckon - a second big bodied mid
I recently met CEY's Auntie, J (Wont say full name, unfair) Ellis. But am stoked for Cam, he'll get another full contract am sure!
What does Adelaide do about Eddie's relationship with star Westies bot Isak Rankine? Forget Lukosius imo, we need Rankine
Adelaide's current picks are #7 (Ours, likely to stay at 7) Melbourne's current #13 and Carltanks #19. That arms us with three inside top 20 with five croweaters to go inside that number! Lukosius looks too hard to get but Rankine, I believe Adelaide are targeting this boy, I just don't know where others see him in draft order
I'm Sam Walsh and Jack Lukosius top 2 picks. I think Carlton will take Walsh as their young forwards are strong. GC or Lions will take Lukosius why wouldn't they? Bailey Smith could go 3 or Rankine.
I don't see Max or Ben King going ahead of these 4 given Max has done ACL and Ben King is a DKP. So Rankine likely to go 3 or 4 imo
So who or what do we trade to either GC, Lions or the Saints for the rights to that #3-4 draft pick, assuming they target Rankine and not Lukosius. But with Harry Dear, Himmleberg, JJ, Tex, Lynch and the Gov. Adelaide doesn't need a KF. But an Eddie Betts replacement who has been compared to McLeod?
I would rather keep CEY. Would a Brisbane if GC finish 17th, trade us pick #3 for #7 and #13? For example
I believe the GCS will nab Jack Lukocius in a heart beat to replace Lynch, I don't think Carltank will take JL with #1 but why the hell not?
it's all very sceptical and given trades can happen on draft night :o I really do see Adelaide going after one of Jack Lukosius or Isak Rankine. FULL BORE. That, is a given!
What of Harry Dear, Singorello who I really like, dash, run but ball use sublime. He has a future and Id like to see him play now we are done as finalists. Ben Jarman, O'Brien, Himmelberg, Ben Davis. Patrick Wilson from Sturt I like, he gets another rookie contract.
I just wonder if any of these or an Atkins, Gallucci could be used to lure those top #5 picks that see's Adelaide nail those top few Crow Eaters!
Cmon tbag, CEY is nowhere near AFL standard. Would be stunned if he gets another contract, our mid depth next year will be even better with Crouch back too.
Agree that Rankine would be a great fit, we don't have anyone like him. Exciting off-season to come but most importantly we just need guys to be injury free and get a full pre-season in.
Also probably need to look at another ruckman - Preuss perhaps?
Quote from: Jay on August 12, 2018, 06:52:32 PM
Cmon tbag, CEY is nowhere near AFL standard. Would be stunned if he gets another contract, our mid depth next year will be even better with Crouch back too.
Agree that Rankine would be a great fit, we don't have anyone like him. Exciting off-season to come but most importantly we just need guys to be injury free and get a full pre-season in.
Also probably need to look at another ruckman - Preuss perhaps?
But I like CEY :'( Basically just like Mitch Grigg who won the Magarey soon as he was sent packing back to Norwood, far too good for SANFL, CEY is far, FAR too good for the SANFL. I think he has a place around the Crouch Bro's, Gibbs, Sloane and Greenwood. CEY will be a decent AFL footballer, put my hat on that!
I also think Patrick Wilson is too good and Singorello too
Still don't see what's so wrong with Reilly O'Brien, why target another second stringer when we have a young kid who can play a bit just waiting?
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Quote from: Jay on August 12, 2018, 06:52:32 PM
Cmon tbag, CEY is nowhere near AFL standard. Would be stunned if he gets another contract, our mid depth next year will be even better with Crouch back too.
Agree that Rankine would be a great fit, we don't have anyone like him. Exciting off-season to come but most importantly we just need guys to be injury free and get a full pre-season in.
Also probably need to look at another ruckman - Preuss perhaps?
But I like CEY :'( Basically just like Mitch Grigg who won the Magarey soon as he was sent packing back to Norwood, far too good for SANFL, CEY is far, FAR too good for the SANFL. I think he has a place around the Crouch Bro's, Gibbs, Sloane and Greenwood. CEY will be a decent AFL footballer, put my hat on that!
I also think Patrick Wilson is too good and Singorello too
Still don't see what's so wrong with Reilly O'Brien, why target another second stringer when we have a young kid who can play a bit just waiting?
Jeez you really don't have any idea, do you? CEY can't exist, most weeks, in the same side as Crouch and Hugh, it worked fine last week against Port's one paced, slow midfield, but against quicker mids, we get exposed on transition. I'm fine with keeping him as depth cause he's very good depth but he'll never be a star due to being slow, his below average skills, going missing during games, and prone to being very fumbly with the ball; he will never be part of our best side. He, along with Grigg and most likely Wilson, probably fits into the category of too good for the SANFL but not quite there at the higher level.
And on ROB, unless you want our next ruck to run at 0% by foot every match, I suggest we target a ruck this off-season, Pruess would be a great get.
http://www.afc.com.au/news/2018-08-20/skippers-successful-surgery
QuoteCrows captain Taylor Walker has undergone successful foot surgery this morning.
The 28-year-old underwent a minor procedure to repair the plantar fascia in his left foot which has troubled him at different times throughout the season.
Crows Head of Football Brett Burton said the Club decided to make best use of Walker’s season being cut short due to a two-week suspension.
“Importantly, he will be able to complete a thorough rehabilitation program and be ready to go for the start of pre-season training,†Burton said.
Great news, hopefully this allows him to get through preseason with no setbacks, desperately needs it to get some fitness back.
Reckon he will be Captain? Or will Sloane get rewarded for his loyalty and superior leadership?
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Reckon he will be Captain? Or will Sloane get rewarded for his loyalty and superior leadership?
You would know literally nothing about either of Tex or Rory’s leadership and whose is superior, I’ll leave that up to the players who are around both everyday, considering they would know so much more than you.
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Reckon he will be Captain? Or will Sloane get rewarded for his loyalty and superior leadership?
I'd back the two time best captain of the year award recipient to make the right call as to whether he's the right man for the job or not :)
Whether or not Tex is the right man for the job, I am a massive fan of Rory Sloane and how he carries himself on and off the field. Would love to see him take the captaincy next year as he oozes leadership traits and it would be a great reward for his long-term commitment to the club.
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Reckon he will be Captain? Or will Sloane get rewarded for his loyalty and superior leadership?
I'd back the two time best captain of the year award recipient to make the right call as to whether he's the right man for the job or not :)
But every time people say he's a bad captain, that exact line is used by Crows supporters. It would be a terrible look and very contradictory if the reigning back to back Captain of the Year was removed from his position after one bad year.
Quote from: Toga on August 21, 2018, 07:45:53 PM
Whether or not Tex is the right man for the job, I am a massive fan of Rory Sloane and how he carries himself on and off the field. Would love to see him take the captaincy next year as he oozes leadership traits and it would be a great reward for his long-term commitment to the club.
This, I love Tex but Rory seems the perfect fit.
Surely Co-Captaincy gets given a go?
Hearing Mitch McGovern is walking out on the Crows. :o
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Hearing Mitch McGovern is walking out on the Crows. :o
In a westerly direction?
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Hearing Mitch McGovern is walking out on the Crows. :o
In a westerly direction?
Pretty sure you can almost lock him in into asking for a trade to Carlton
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Hearing Mitch McGovern is walking out on the Crows. :o
In a westerly direction?
Would be nice, but the rumour is the Blues. :(
Bye, Gov.. Hello, Luko!
Yeah was reported last night that Blues, which I found surprising
Makes sense I guess, because apparently he is leaving because he is pissed off that he got paid what he did when others like Gibbs got way more etc, and seeing as Carlton would have plenty of cash it makes sense
$$$ McGovern
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 28, 2018, 05:34:51 PM
Yeah was reported last night that Blues, which I found surprising
Makes sense I guess, because apparently he is leaving because he is pissed off that he got paid what he did when others like Gibbs got way more etc, and seeing as Carlton would have plenty of cash it makes sense
$$$ McGovern
Jeremy sending pictures of his new contact probably didn't help either :P :P :P
They could have avoided this whole situation if they traded him to us when we asked for him :-X
Crows fans on social media are losing their collective minds if they think Gov Jr is worth pick one.
They will likely get it done for the priority pick we get. Only other thing I see happening is a three way trade with GC.
We get Gov and pick 2 or 3 (likely 3) and GC's 2nd round pick
Adelaide get pick 1
GC get Adelaide's first this year, Dees first, our PP which will probably be pick 20 (pre academy picks)
I think that works out for points. We might have to throw in the Dogs 2nd rounder. It gives GC some ammunition to trade some mature age recruits without compromising their draft position.
Quote from: Mat0369 on August 28, 2018, 09:24:19 PM
They will likely get it done for the priority pick we get. Only other thing I see happening is a three way trade with GC.
We get Gov and pick 2 or 3 (likely 3) and GC's 2nd round pick
Adelaide get pick 1
GC get Adelaide's first this year, Dees first, our PP which will probably be pick 20 (pre academy picks)
I think that works out for points. We might have to throw in the Dogs 2nd rounder. It gives GC some ammunition to trade some mature age recruits without compromising their draft position.
So Carlton get: Gov, Pick 3, GC 2nd
Carlton give: Pick 1, Pick 20
lmao
It ain't pick 20 back from GC. You have 3 compo/priority picks at the minimum there. It's basically this
Carlton trade pick 20 for Gov
Adelaide trade 20, 8 and 15 for pick 1.
Carlton trade 20, 8 and 15 for pick 3 and likely pick 25-28 (due to compensation picks. Why would we trade our entire haul for 1 for pick 3 and nothing? Crows would be delusional if they think they're getting more than our PP for McGovern
20 for Gov? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Quote from: TomK on August 28, 2018, 10:01:02 PM
20 for Gov? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Carlton fans last off-season: "Gibbs is a contracted player so if you aren't willing to pay up then he stays. Two first rounders or nothing"
Calron fans this off-season: "Yeah McGovern for about pick 20 should get it done"
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Quote from: TomK on August 28, 2018, 10:01:02 PM
20 for Gov? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Carlton fans last off-season: "Gibbs is a contracted player so if you aren't willing to pay up then he stays. Two first rounders or nothing"
Calron fans this off-season: "Yeah McGovern for about pick 20 should get it done"
I'm not really sure McGovern is anywhere near the equivalent to what Gibbs was, but if you say so. :-X
Kind of humorous that we get Adelaide and Carlton fans arguing of trade values for the 3rd year in a row ;D
Mitch has done jack shower to demand big money. Jeremy got big money because there was demand for a defender like him, Mitch is a more "common" player who has played a handful of good games. Supply and demand.
Carlton Recieve: McGovern, Pick 7 and 14
Adelaide Recieve: Pick 1, 24 and 25
I think we need to give up pick 1 for Gov but think we will get a swap of picks going our way.
I think its pretty fair for both but I am probably biased.
I think uncontracted Mitch is worth around Pick 14 alone but since he is contracted I’d value him at pick 8. Similar to Charlie last year where Brisbane paid up pick 12 instead of pick 19 as he was contracted.
Quote from: Jay on August 28, 2018, 10:55:07 PM
Carlton fans last off-season: "Gibbs is a contracted player so if you aren't willing to pay up then he stays. Two first rounders or nothing"
Calron fans this off-season: "Yeah McGovern for about pick 20 should get it done"
Quote from: Torpedo10 on August 29, 2018, 09:25:10 AM
I'm not really sure McGovern is anywhere near the equivalent to what Gibbs was, but if you say so. :-X
This. It's also two different situations. Bryce requested the trade to go home but was happy at the Blues. McGovern is disgruntled with the Crows organisation. You also look at the trade for Bryce in the end and you ended up with our 2nd round pick in this draft along with our 3rd. You guys sent your second this year thinking it would be closer to the back end than the front
Breaking down the numbers, Carlton received 10, 16 and approx 30 = 3091 draft value points (equivalent to pick 1)
Had it been pick 42 = 2857 which is between 1 and 2.
In return Adelaide received approx 24 and 43 = 1163. This works out to pick 14.
Total sum is that Carlton received the value of pick 5 for Gibbs instead of pick 7.
I think the main thing here is Adelaide want pick 1 more than Carlton want Gov. Our need is midfielders right now. We already have two young KPF's in Curnow and McKay. If we use pick one it's going to be for the best mid in this draft. We're going to need a huge offer to pry it away and it's going to cost a boatload to get it done. The Crows are desperate to get Lukosius so they will have to pay up. The only way they can guarantee it is to move to 1. To move up from 7 to 2 GWS had to trade Cam McCarthy (who they wanted a first for at the time since he was rated that highly at that point), pick 7, pick 34 and a throwaway. So their first, second and a player to move up to 3. They then traded pick 3 and 16 for 2, 31, 51 and 60.
So that's a total accumulation of the following
Out: McCarthy (pick 18 to make it a first), pick 7, pick 16 and pick 34
In: Pick 2, 31, 51 and 60
So that's a total of 4238 points out and 3528 in. They paid the equivalent of pick 27 extra to get the deal done. It would cost more to move up to 1, probably the equivalent of pick 18-20 in the draft.
So if the deal was pick 8, pick 15 and Gov to get pick 1 and the Blues 3rd next year the Crows are making out pretty well. Even if you think Gov is worth pick 10 (which he's not) I think it works out to giving up pick 30 extra to get the deal done. Carlton likely repackage to move back up and send 8, 15 and 22? (does Polec compo supersede the priority pick) for pick 3 and 26ish. So that's 3508 points out for the Blues and 2963 in. So basically pick 34 bonus to GC to get the deal done.
Quote from: Mat0369 on August 30, 2018, 12:25:20 AM
I think the main thing here is Adelaide want pick 1 more than Carlton want Gov. Our need is midfielders right now. We already have two young KPF's in Curnow and McKay. If we use pick one it's going to be for the best mid in this draft.
Why are you offering him 700k+ then? ::)
and that's a whole lot of working out for nothing lol
Because we can? If we're trading pick 1 it's going to be in a trade involving Shiel
Quote from: Mat0369 on August 30, 2018, 01:38:20 AM
Because we can? If we're trading pick 1 it's going to be in a trade involving Shiel
aight cheers sos, nice chatting
Quote from: Mat0369 on August 30, 2018, 01:38:20 AM
Because we can? If we're trading pick 1 it's going to be in a trade involving Shiel
Carlton Recieve: McGovern, Pick 7 and 14
Adelaide Recieve: Pick 1, 24 and/or 25
Carlton Recieve: Shiel, Setterfield and next years first GWS
GWS Recieve: Pick 7 and Next years first Carlton
Quote from: Mat0369 on August 30, 2018, 12:25:20 AM
This. It's also two different situations. Bryce requested the trade to go home but was happy at the Blues. McGovern is disgruntled with the Crows organisation.
How is this different at all? Both are contracted and both want to leave. Also disgruntled is an odd way to describe someone wanting more money - which is a difficult thing to demand when you've only just signed a contract.
Quote from: Mat0369 on August 30, 2018, 12:25:20 AM
I think the main thing here is Adelaide want pick 1 more than Carlton want Gov. Our need is midfielders right now. We already have two young KPF's in Curnow and McKay. If we use pick one it's going to be for the best mid in this draft. We're going to need a huge offer to pry it away and it's going to cost a boatload to get it done. The Crows are desperate to get Lukosius so they will have to pay up. The only way they can guarantee it is to move to 1.
Would love to know where you got your info of Adelaide being desperate for pick 1. Sure, it would be nice to top end SA talent, but with our list profile, the next couple of years are crucial and Luko won't really help during that time. If we don't get pick 1 then Gov stays. Simple. Carlton have very few good players, there's no way they don't pay up for someone as talented as McGovern who actually wants to go there.
Quote from: Mat0369 on August 30, 2018, 12:25:20 AM
Even if you think Gov is worth pick 10 (which he's not)
Lol. Cameron was worth pick 12 and Gov with his size and physical gifts I'd argue is worth more. Not many players who can mark that well overhead have Gov's speed to apply elite forward pressure as well. Those attributes are very hard to find in one player and we'll really miss him if he leaves so if you don't want him then we'll happily keep him for another two years :)
About as one-eyed as you can get Jay.
Gov isn't worth a first rounder, but talking about a first round pick is a good place to start talking at the trade table.
Tex gotta go as Captain. Already on the radio saying he wants an explanation. If he doesn't know the reason by now he's probably part of the reason.
::)
Quote from: TomK on August 30, 2018, 02:34:11 PM
::)
I honestly wonder if you have a notification setting just for whenever a post. Are you... in love with me TomK?
Quote from: Trindacut on August 30, 2018, 01:17:47 PM
Tex gotta go as Captain. Already on the radio saying he wants an explanation. If he doesn't know the reason by now he's probably part of the reason.
Probably a dumb question, but did you listen to the interview or just read the headline?
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Quote from: Trindacut on August 30, 2018, 01:17:47 PM
Tex gotta go as Captain. Already on the radio saying he wants an explanation. If he doesn't know the reason by now he's probably part of the reason.
Probably a dumb question, but did you listen to the interview or just read the headline?
We all know the answer to that
Quote from: Jay on August 30, 2018, 02:39:06 PM
Quote from: Trindacut on August 30, 2018, 01:17:47 PM
Tex gotta go as Captain. Already on the radio saying he wants an explanation. If he doesn't know the reason by now he's probably part of the reason.
Probably a dumb question, but did you listen to the interview or just read the headline?
Listened to it. I didn't buy his casual laid back "it's okay" approach. He just put it on because everyone called him out on how horribly he treated Lever. He's just a shower bloke, and a shower captain.
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Quote from: Trindacut on August 30, 2018, 01:17:47 PM
Tex gotta go as Captain. Already on the radio saying he wants an explanation. If he doesn't know the reason by now he's probably part of the reason.
Probably a dumb question, but did you listen to the interview or just read the headline?
Listened to it. I didn't buy his casual laid back "it's okay" approach. He just put it on because everyone called him out on how horribly he treated Lever. He's just a shower bloke, and a shower captain.
so he's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't? Also, not sure if you're the best judge of character tbh lol.
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Quote from: Trindacut on August 30, 2018, 01:17:47 PM
Tex gotta go as Captain. Already on the radio saying he wants an explanation. If he doesn't know the reason by now he's probably part of the reason.
Probably a dumb question, but did you listen to the interview or just read the headline?
Listened to it. I didn't buy his casual laid back "it's okay" approach. He just put it on because everyone called him out on how horribly he treated Lever. He's just a shower bloke, and a shower captain.
so he's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't? Also, not sure if you're the best judge of character tbh lol.
Don't really care for your continued personal attacks TomK. Go hang out with TBag if you're going to be like that.
At the end of the day there's something wrong at Adelaide for so much talent to be wanting out. My guess is it's a few factors, not the least of which is Tex.
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Quote from: Trindacut on August 30, 2018, 01:17:47 PM
Tex gotta go as Captain. Already on the radio saying he wants an explanation. If he doesn't know the reason by now he's probably part of the reason.
Probably a dumb question, but did you listen to the interview or just read the headline?
Listened to it. I didn't buy his casual laid back "it's okay" approach. He just put it on because everyone called him out on how horribly he treated Lever. He's just a shower bloke, and a shower captain.
so he's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't? Also, not sure if you're the best judge of character tbh lol.
Don't really care for your continued personal attacks TomK. Go hang out with TBag if you're going to be like that.
At the end of the day there's something wrong at Adelaide for so much talent to be wanting out. My guess is it's a few factors, not the least of which is Tex.
You say this as you constantly personally attack Tex? okay bud. You clearly have a personal vendetta against Tex, why I don't know, but it's getting a bit boring.
Tex ain't the problem, Burton, Chapman, and Ricciuto & his boy's club are the problem; quite a few players leaving have been money related though, while Charlie leaving last year was for a personal issue, nothing to do with the club.
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Quote from: Trindacut on August 30, 2018, 01:17:47 PM
Tex gotta go as Captain. Already on the radio saying he wants an explanation. If he doesn't know the reason by now he's probably part of the reason.
Probably a dumb question, but did you listen to the interview or just read the headline?
Listened to it. I didn't buy his casual laid back "it's okay" approach. He just put it on because everyone called him out on how horribly he treated Lever. He's just a shower bloke, and a shower captain.
so he's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't? Also, not sure if you're the best judge of character tbh lol.
Don't really care for your continued personal attacks TomK. Go hang out with TBag if you're going to be like that.
At the end of the day there's something wrong at Adelaide for so much talent to be wanting out. My guess is it's a few factors, not the least of which is Tex.
You say this as you constantly personally attack Tex? okay bud. You clearly have a personal vendetta against Tex, why I don't know, but it's getting a bit boring.
Tex ain't the problem, Burton, Chapman, and Ricciuto & his boy's club are the problem; quite a few players leaving have been money related though, while Charlie leaving last year was for a personal issue, nothing to do with the club.
It isn't personal mate, he isn't here. And I don't have a vendetta either, just a consistent perspective. And that's all it is, a perspective. You have a perspective too, one where you bury your head in the sand. That's fine, I just disagree.
You really need to just relax and not crack the sads whenever someone doesn't agree with you.
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Quote from: Trindacut on August 30, 2018, 01:17:47 PM
Tex gotta go as Captain. Already on the radio saying he wants an explanation. If he doesn't know the reason by now he's probably part of the reason.
Probably a dumb question, but did you listen to the interview or just read the headline?
Listened to it. I didn't buy his casual laid back "it's okay" approach. He just put it on because everyone called him out on how horribly he treated Lever. He's just a shower bloke, and a shower captain.
so he's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't? Also, not sure if you're the best judge of character tbh lol.
Don't really care for your continued personal attacks TomK. Go hang out with TBag if you're going to be like that.
At the end of the day there's something wrong at Adelaide for so much talent to be wanting out. My guess is it's a few factors, not the least of which is Tex.
You say this as you constantly personally attack Tex? okay bud. You clearly have a personal vendetta against Tex, why I don't know, but it's getting a bit boring.
Tex ain't the problem, Burton, Chapman, and Ricciuto & his boy's club are the problem; quite a few players leaving have been money related though, while Charlie leaving last year was for a personal issue, nothing to do with the club.
It isn't personal mate, he isn't here. And I don't have a vendetta either, just a consistent perspective. And that's all it is, a perspective. You have a perspective too, one where you bury your head in the sand. That's fine, I just disagree.
You really need to just relax and not crack the sads whenever someone doesn't agree with you.
Calling someone a shower bloke, whether they see it or not, is a personal attack hahahah, you're literally attacking him as a person ::)
An attack on a player who you don't like and an attack on a member of the forum are 2 very different things...just saying.
Quote from: jvalles69 on August 30, 2018, 05:20:14 PM
An attack on a player who you don't like and an attack on a member of the forum are 2 very different things...just saying.
Eagles are all drug cheating cows and Simpson is a shower coach.
Except Reddo and Venagoat
Quote from: jvalles69 on August 30, 2018, 05:20:14 PM
An attack on a player who you don't like and an attack on a member of the forum are 2 very different things...just saying.
Are we condoning attacks on players now?
Just because they might never actually read this doesn't make it okay or any better than attacking a member of the forum.
Don't do either.
Quote from: jvalles69 on August 30, 2018, 05:20:14 PM
An attack on a player who you don't like and an attack on a member of the forum are 2 very different things...just saying.
Careful mate, you're taking his justification for being an assole away.
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Quote from: jvalles69 on August 30, 2018, 05:20:14 PM
An attack on a player who you don't like and an attack on a member of the forum are 2 very different things...just saying.
Careful mate, you're taking his justification for being an assole away.
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Don't really care for your continued personal attacks TomK. Go hang out with TBag if you're going to be like that.
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Quote from: jvalles69 on August 30, 2018, 05:20:14 PM
An attack on a player who you don't like and an attack on a member of the forum are 2 very different things...just saying.
Are we condoning attacks on players now?
Just because they might never actually read this doesn't make it okay or any better than attacking a member of the forum.
Don't do either.
Agree, but they're still pretty different. I hate plenty of players, I don't bag them out unless they do something negative and it becomes the point of discussion. Plenty people came out and spoke about Gaff being a "flog" and a "thug", which I disagreed with, however he committed an action that ppl didn't like so they had the right to comment on it. I'm not gonna have a go at Nige because his comments are wrong:
QuoteEagles are all drug cheating cows and Simpson is a shower coach.
BTW not having a go at anyone on here, just think both situations are pretty different.
Quote from: Nige on August 30, 2018, 05:30:07 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on August 30, 2018, 05:20:14 PM
An attack on a player who you don't like and an attack on a member of the forum are 2 very different things...just saying.
Are we condoning attacks on players now?
Just because they might never actually read this doesn't make it okay or any better than attacking a member of the forum.
Don't do either.
Careful everyone, Nige is here to tell people off and pretend to be a moderator.
Calling someone a shower bloke is barely an 'attack'. But hang on to any minuscule thing you have to try and derail the conversation and get the thread closed. Everyone loves a closed thread. I'd much prefer to just continue with the discussion.
In completely unrelated but much more serious note, some pretty sad news out for Rory and Belinda Sloane. Bloody heartbreaking. Hopefully the club and family get around them. Pretty much nothing worse in this world. :(
QuoteIn completely unrelated but much more serious note, some pretty sad news out for Rory and Belinda Sloane. Bloody heartbreaking. Hopefully the club and family get around them. Pretty much nothing worse in this world.
Just saw this, sad sad news. :'( Real news right here instead of ppl getting butt hurt over nothing.
Quote from: Trindacut on August 30, 2018, 05:57:17 PM
Calling someone a shower bloke is barely an 'attack'. But hang on to any minuscule thing you have to try and derail the conversation and get the thread closed. Everyone loves a closed thread. I'd much prefer to just continue with the discussion.
This coming from the fella that is the reason most of the threads around here get locked. Interesting. Your penchant for unnecessary and inflammatory rhetoric is pretty damn impressive I must say. Either you're just not very self-aware or you just like skating on thin ice. Either way, carry on.
Quote from: Nige on August 30, 2018, 06:12:53 PM
Quote from: Trindacut on August 30, 2018, 05:57:17 PM
Calling someone a shower bloke is barely an 'attack'. But hang on to any minuscule thing you have to try and derail the conversation and get the thread closed. Everyone loves a closed thread. I'd much prefer to just continue with the discussion.
This coming from the fella that is the reason most of the threads around here get locked. Interesting. Your penchant for unnecessary and inflammatory rhetoric is pretty damn impressive I must say. Either you're just not very self-aware or you just like skating on thin ice. Either way, carry on.
Thank-you for your permission to carry on Emperor Nige, I will continue to talk about how devastating a loss the Sloane family have suffered.
Why is Trinda one of the more reasonable voices in this discussion?
Quote from: nrich102 on August 30, 2018, 06:29:36 PM
Why is Trinda one of the more reasonable voices in this discussion?
This is the crows board.
Quote from: Trindacut on August 30, 2018, 02:51:13 PM
Listened to it. I didn't buy his casual laid back "it's okay" approach. He just put it on because everyone called him out on how horribly he treated Lever. He's just a shower bloke, and a shower captain.
He wants to know why someone wants to leave a footy club that he is captain of. Is that not reasonable? He wants out less than 12 months after signing a contract, think it's fair enough the captain would like to have a chat about what has changed :)
Also, here's some light reading for you to prove just how shower a bloke Tex is:
https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/adelaide-captain-taylor-walker-reunites-with-variety-scholarship-holder-jorja-amid-busy-preshowdown-45-schedule/news-story/5a6cc5e4b902f6e43278a9bc51643688
https://www.news.com.au/national/south-australia/taylor-walker-a-hero-to-kids/news-story/99c890a3bd723095e253c0c17b4ca508
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/adelaide/taylor-walker-and-kyle-hartigan-visited-aspect-treetop-school-to-see-the-joy-being-spread-on-behalf-of-crows-childrens-foundation/news-story/b12daf65a54ff6785709f2389ad378b4
Quote from: Trindacut on August 30, 2018, 03:40:33 PM
At the end of the day there's something wrong at Adelaide for so much talent to be wanting out. My guess is it's a few factors, not the least of which is Tex.
13 players have re-signed with the Crows just this year including first team guys such as Sloane, Laird, Crouch, Seedsman, Lynch, Atkins, Douglas, Gallucci, Fogarty and Smith. Gibbs requested a trade to Adelaide in consecutive off-season - would he not have been turned off by how shower a bloke the captain is? Also think his peers would have realised how shower of a captain him before voting him as best captain two years in a row..
Quote from: Jay on August 30, 2018, 09:49:35 PM
Quote from: Trindacut on August 30, 2018, 02:51:13 PM
Listened to it. I didn't buy his casual laid back "it's okay" approach. He just put it on because everyone called him out on how horribly he treated Lever. He's just a shower bloke, and a shower captain.
He wants to know why someone wants to leave a footy club that he is captain of. Is that not reasonable? He wants out less than 12 months after signing a contract, think it's fair enough the captain would like to have a chat about what has changed :)
Also, here's some light reading for you to prove just how shower a bloke Tex is:
https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/adelaide-captain-taylor-walker-reunites-with-variety-scholarship-holder-jorja-amid-busy-preshowdown-45-schedule/news-story/5a6cc5e4b902f6e43278a9bc51643688
https://www.news.com.au/national/south-australia/taylor-walker-a-hero-to-kids/news-story/99c890a3bd723095e253c0c17b4ca508
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/adelaide/taylor-walker-and-kyle-hartigan-visited-aspect-treetop-school-to-see-the-joy-being-spread-on-behalf-of-crows-childrens-foundation/news-story/b12daf65a54ff6785709f2389ad378b4
Quote from: Trindacut on August 30, 2018, 03:40:33 PM
At the end of the day there's something wrong at Adelaide for so much talent to be wanting out. My guess is it's a few factors, not the least of which is Tex.
13 players have re-signed with the Crows just this year including first team guys such as Sloane, Laird, Crouch, Seedsman, Lynch, Atkins, Douglas, Gallucci, Fogarty and Smith. Gibbs requested a trade to Adelaide in consecutive off-season - would he not have been turned off by how shower a bloke the captain is? Also think his peers would have realised how shower of a captain him before voting him as best captain two years in a row..
I think you missed the point I was making about Tex wanting to know why he is leaving. Tex is the Captain, either him or someone in the leadership group would have a good idea why he wants to go. These guys work with each other 6-7 days a week, spend a lot of time together, are in a team together... If Gov has publicly he wants out (and at this stage no nominated team (pending finals)) and Tex really doesn't know why he's leaving then I'd be willing to bet Tex is a big part fo that reason.
Just try and put yourself in Gov's shoes. If you're at a workplace with a shower boss, you don't go to the boss and say "Mate, you're a shower bloke, I want a transfer."
And you can put your head in the sand all you like. Bock, Davis, Gunston, Tippett, Dangerfield, Lever, Cameron and now McGovern. Yeah, must be a great place to work.
Side note:
When I talk about a Tex being a shower bloke, I do it in the context of the game. As a person I'm sure he's fine. As a Captain/leader/footballer... Well, you know my thoughts. And all that being said, even shower blokes do good things. Look up Winterhilfswork.
Quote from: Trindacut on August 30, 2018, 11:04:59 PM
Quote from: Jay on August 30, 2018, 09:49:35 PM
Quote from: Trindacut on August 30, 2018, 02:51:13 PM
Listened to it. I didn't buy his casual laid back "it's okay" approach. He just put it on because everyone called him out on how horribly he treated Lever. He's just a shower bloke, and a shower captain.
He wants to know why someone wants to leave a footy club that he is captain of. Is that not reasonable? He wants out less than 12 months after signing a contract, think it's fair enough the captain would like to have a chat about what has changed :)
Also, here's some light reading for you to prove just how shower a bloke Tex is:
https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/adelaide-captain-taylor-walker-reunites-with-variety-scholarship-holder-jorja-amid-busy-preshowdown-45-schedule/news-story/5a6cc5e4b902f6e43278a9bc51643688
https://www.news.com.au/national/south-australia/taylor-walker-a-hero-to-kids/news-story/99c890a3bd723095e253c0c17b4ca508
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/adelaide/taylor-walker-and-kyle-hartigan-visited-aspect-treetop-school-to-see-the-joy-being-spread-on-behalf-of-crows-childrens-foundation/news-story/b12daf65a54ff6785709f2389ad378b4
Quote from: Trindacut on August 30, 2018, 03:40:33 PM
At the end of the day there's something wrong at Adelaide for so much talent to be wanting out. My guess is it's a few factors, not the least of which is Tex.
13 players have re-signed with the Crows just this year including first team guys such as Sloane, Laird, Crouch, Seedsman, Lynch, Atkins, Douglas, Gallucci, Fogarty and Smith. Gibbs requested a trade to Adelaide in consecutive off-season - would he not have been turned off by how shower a bloke the captain is? Also think his peers would have realised how shower of a captain him before voting him as best captain two years in a row..
Just try and put yourself in Gov's shoes. If you're at a workplace with a shower boss, you don't go to the boss and say "Mate, you're a shower bloke, I want a transfer."
And you can put your head in the sand all you like. Bock, Davis, Gunston, Tippett, Dangerfield, Lever, Cameron and now McGovern. Yeah, must be a great place to work.
This is right up there with the most stupid things I've heard/read all decade.
Tex obviously rubs some people the wrong way as most people do in life not just Tex. This "shower bloke" stuff is laughable
However crows supporters do need to realise there is a player split along with board member issues like Burton (who I can't stand) is set on his ways of how the cub should be going and hasn't changed a thing. Behind my mob (GC) the player divide at the crows is next. Just majority of the crows best 22 players are all in while its only 1 or 2 each year who aren't. Does it need fixing, obviously. But it isn't the end of the world like a certain someone is suggesting
Quote from: Trindacut on August 30, 2018, 11:04:59 PM
Quote from: Jay on August 30, 2018, 09:49:35 PM
Quote from: Trindacut on August 30, 2018, 02:51:13 PM
Listened to it. I didn't buy his casual laid back "it's okay" approach. He just put it on because everyone called him out on how horribly he treated Lever. He's just a shower bloke, and a shower captain.
He wants to know why someone wants to leave a footy club that he is captain of. Is that not reasonable? He wants out less than 12 months after signing a contract, think it's fair enough the captain would like to have a chat about what has changed :)
Also, here's some light reading for you to prove just how shower a bloke Tex is:
https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/adelaide-captain-taylor-walker-reunites-with-variety-scholarship-holder-jorja-amid-busy-preshowdown-45-schedule/news-story/5a6cc5e4b902f6e43278a9bc51643688
https://www.news.com.au/national/south-australia/taylor-walker-a-hero-to-kids/news-story/99c890a3bd723095e253c0c17b4ca508
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/adelaide/taylor-walker-and-kyle-hartigan-visited-aspect-treetop-school-to-see-the-joy-being-spread-on-behalf-of-crows-childrens-foundation/news-story/b12daf65a54ff6785709f2389ad378b4
Quote from: Trindacut on August 30, 2018, 03:40:33 PM
At the end of the day there's something wrong at Adelaide for so much talent to be wanting out. My guess is it's a few factors, not the least of which is Tex.
13 players have re-signed with the Crows just this year including first team guys such as Sloane, Laird, Crouch, Seedsman, Lynch, Atkins, Douglas, Gallucci, Fogarty and Smith. Gibbs requested a trade to Adelaide in consecutive off-season - would he not have been turned off by how shower a bloke the captain is? Also think his peers would have realised how shower of a captain him before voting him as best captain two years in a row..
Just try and put yourself in Gov's shoes. If you're at a workplace with a shower boss, you don't go to the boss and say "Mate, you're a shower bloke, I want a transfer."
What the flower are you talking about? You have no idea why McGovern wants out, you have no idea if it's because of Tex. Have you considered that he's just been offered more money and wants to take it?
Everybody say serenity now and calm please.
Can you actually be offered more money if you've already signed a contract? I guess if you're traded to a side, then they can adjust your contract to pay you more or for sign you for longer?
Quote from: Jay on August 31, 2018, 12:07:42 AM
Quote from: Trindacut on August 30, 2018, 11:04:59 PM
Quote from: Jay on August 30, 2018, 09:49:35 PM
Quote from: Trindacut on August 30, 2018, 02:51:13 PM
Listened to it. I didn't buy his casual laid back "it's okay" approach. He just put it on because everyone called him out on how horribly he treated Lever. He's just a shower bloke, and a shower captain.
He wants to know why someone wants to leave a footy club that he is captain of. Is that not reasonable? He wants out less than 12 months after signing a contract, think it's fair enough the captain would like to have a chat about what has changed :)
Also, here's some light reading for you to prove just how shower a bloke Tex is:
https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/adelaide-captain-taylor-walker-reunites-with-variety-scholarship-holder-jorja-amid-busy-preshowdown-45-schedule/news-story/5a6cc5e4b902f6e43278a9bc51643688
https://www.news.com.au/national/south-australia/taylor-walker-a-hero-to-kids/news-story/99c890a3bd723095e253c0c17b4ca508
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/adelaide/taylor-walker-and-kyle-hartigan-visited-aspect-treetop-school-to-see-the-joy-being-spread-on-behalf-of-crows-childrens-foundation/news-story/b12daf65a54ff6785709f2389ad378b4
Quote from: Trindacut on August 30, 2018, 03:40:33 PM
At the end of the day there's something wrong at Adelaide for so much talent to be wanting out. My guess is it's a few factors, not the least of which is Tex.
13 players have re-signed with the Crows just this year including first team guys such as Sloane, Laird, Crouch, Seedsman, Lynch, Atkins, Douglas, Gallucci, Fogarty and Smith. Gibbs requested a trade to Adelaide in consecutive off-season - would he not have been turned off by how shower a bloke the captain is? Also think his peers would have realised how shower of a captain him before voting him as best captain two years in a row..
Just try and put yourself in Gov's shoes. If you're at a workplace with a shower boss, you don't go to the boss and say "Mate, you're a shower bloke, I want a transfer."
What the flower are you talking about? You have no idea why McGovern wants out, you have no idea if it's because of Tex. Have you considered that he's just been offered more money and wants to take it?
By that logic, you can't know if trinda is right or wrong.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-08-31/sliding-doors-before-the-finals
Confirmed Trinda = Damian Barrett
Quote from: Gigantor on August 31, 2018, 11:11:33 AM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-08-31/sliding-doors-before-the-finals
Confirmed Trinda = Damian Barrett
:o
Quote from: Nige on August 31, 2018, 11:50:44 AM
Quote from: Gigantor on August 31, 2018, 11:11:33 AM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-08-31/sliding-doors-before-the-finals
Confirmed Trinda = Damian Barrett
:o
Ha ha gold if not him and Trinda are onto something ;D
Quote from: Nige on August 31, 2018, 11:50:44 AM
Quote from: Gigantor on August 31, 2018, 11:11:33 AM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-08-31/sliding-doors-before-the-finals
Confirmed Trinda = Damian Barrett
:o
Tbh I probably deserve a ban, calling someone Damian Barrett is a pretty big personal attack :o ;D
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 31, 2018, 10:04:14 AM
Quote from: Jay on August 31, 2018, 12:07:42 AM
Quote from: Trindacut on August 30, 2018, 11:04:59 PM
Quote from: Jay on August 30, 2018, 09:49:35 PM
Quote from: Trindacut on August 30, 2018, 02:51:13 PM
Listened to it. I didn't buy his casual laid back "it's okay" approach. He just put it on because everyone called him out on how horribly he treated Lever. He's just a shower bloke, and a shower captain.
He wants to know why someone wants to leave a footy club that he is captain of. Is that not reasonable? He wants out less than 12 months after signing a contract, think it's fair enough the captain would like to have a chat about what has changed :)
Also, here's some light reading for you to prove just how shower a bloke Tex is:
https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/adelaide-captain-taylor-walker-reunites-with-variety-scholarship-holder-jorja-amid-busy-preshowdown-45-schedule/news-story/5a6cc5e4b902f6e43278a9bc51643688
https://www.news.com.au/national/south-australia/taylor-walker-a-hero-to-kids/news-story/99c890a3bd723095e253c0c17b4ca508
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/adelaide/taylor-walker-and-kyle-hartigan-visited-aspect-treetop-school-to-see-the-joy-being-spread-on-behalf-of-crows-childrens-foundation/news-story/b12daf65a54ff6785709f2389ad378b4
Quote from: Trindacut on August 30, 2018, 03:40:33 PM
At the end of the day there's something wrong at Adelaide for so much talent to be wanting out. My guess is it's a few factors, not the least of which is Tex.
13 players have re-signed with the Crows just this year including first team guys such as Sloane, Laird, Crouch, Seedsman, Lynch, Atkins, Douglas, Gallucci, Fogarty and Smith. Gibbs requested a trade to Adelaide in consecutive off-season - would he not have been turned off by how shower a bloke the captain is? Also think his peers would have realised how shower of a captain him before voting him as best captain two years in a row..
Just try and put yourself in Gov's shoes. If you're at a workplace with a shower boss, you don't go to the boss and say "Mate, you're a shower bloke, I want a transfer."
What the flower are you talking about? You have no idea why McGovern wants out, you have no idea if it's because of Tex. Have you considered that he's just been offered more money and wants to take it?
By that logic, you can't know if trinda is right or wrong.
Trinda is implying that Tex is driving players out the door which is just blatant speculation based on no facts.
The only player I can remember that come out and said he left a club because of the environment or personnel was Mal Michael who didn't like Buckley when he was captain so we will hear nothing , but I have to admit until I read the list of players that have departed the Crows I hadn't really noticed how many there were so Trinda and Damien Barrett raise a fair point so whatever the reason is something is NQR.
Quote from: Gigantor on August 31, 2018, 12:39:07 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 31, 2018, 11:50:44 AM
Quote from: Gigantor on August 31, 2018, 11:11:33 AM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-08-31/sliding-doors-before-the-finals
Confirmed Trinda = Damian Barrett
:o
Tbh I probably deserve a ban, calling someone Damian Barrett is a pretty big personal attack :o ;D
Yeah definitely a little too cruel there mate
Tex in the news for doing something stupid and no action in this thread?
Have to say I'm pretty disappointed haha
Quote from: Gigantor on September 01, 2018, 01:03:51 PM
Tex in the news for doing something stupid and no action in this thread?
Have to say I'm pretty disappointed haha
Bit hard to when they can’t post on the forum atm
Quote from: Gigantor on September 01, 2018, 01:03:51 PM
Tex in the news for doing something stupid and no action in this thread?
Have to say I'm pretty disappointed haha
Tex will be the next Andrew Jarman.
Quote from: LF on September 01, 2018, 01:06:57 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on September 01, 2018, 01:03:51 PM
Tex in the news for doing something stupid and no action in this thread?
Have to say I'm pretty disappointed haha
Bit hard to when they can’t post on the forum atm
That will do it haha
Quote from: Gigantor on September 01, 2018, 01:29:31 PM
Quote from: LF on September 01, 2018, 01:06:57 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on September 01, 2018, 01:03:51 PM
Tex in the news for doing something stupid and no action in this thread?
Have to say I'm pretty disappointed haha
Bit hard to when they can’t post on the forum atm
That will do it haha
Did I miss a big fight? Every time :'(
Quote from: Nige on September 01, 2018, 01:08:00 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on September 01, 2018, 01:03:51 PM
Tex in the news for doing something stupid and no action in this thread?
Have to say I'm pretty disappointed haha
Tex will be the next Andrew Jarman.
What very fat ?
Quote from: Jay on August 30, 2018, 11:03:57 AM
How is this different at all? Both are contracted and both want to leave. Also disgruntled is an odd way to describe someone wanting more money - which is a difficult thing to demand when you've only just signed a contract.
Gov is apparently not happy with management for a variety of reasons. One of those is the fact they told him to take less money because everyone at the club was taking less before giving Bryce a pay rise when he moved over. The other one I read but I can't find the link for is that they mishandled his injury which caused him to miss significant time and have surgery on both ankles this year.That was the icing and he wants out. Both of those are pretty different to a player that has had a child and wants to move closer to be with his family.
Quote from: Jay on August 30, 2018, 11:03:57 AM
Would love to know where you got your info of Adelaide being desperate for pick 1. Sure, it would be nice to top end SA talent, but with our list profile, the next couple of years are crucial and Luko won't really help during that time. If we don't get pick 1 then Gov stays. Simple. Carlton have very few good players, there's no way they don't pay up for someone as talented as McGovern who actually wants to go there.
Just do a quick Google search and see all the articles of the Crows wanting a top 3 pick in the draft to get one of Lukosius or Rankine. With player retention obviously being an issue they want an SA guy that isn't going to bolt for cash or to go home. Carlton also have interest in Shiel and Setterfield and pick 1 is more likely to get used in that trade. I can understand giving up the pick in that deal, but not one for Gov.
Quote from: Jay on August 30, 2018, 11:03:57 AM
Lol. Cameron was worth pick 12 and Gov with his size and physical gifts I'd argue is worth more. Not many players who can mark that well overhead have Gov's speed to apply elite forward pressure as well. Those attributes are very hard to find in one player and we'll really miss him if he leaves so if you don't want him then we'll happily keep him for another two years :)
Weller was traded for pick 2 and Tom Mitchell was traded for pick 14. Dumb teams make dumb trades (hi Gold Coast). Even though Mitchell was out of contract it was pretty obvious the Hawks got him at a good price. He is probably worth in the 14-18 range so he is probably worth pick 16.
I don't see a deal getting done for Gov at Carlton if Shiel is on the table. I think it's likely he ends up somewhere else, maybe the Pies if they strike out on Lynch and May. The Crows can deal with GC to get pick 2 (which will cost them less) and hope the Blues stick to the plan of nabbing Walsh if they keep pick 1. I think SOS is going to throw out that Carlton want Lukosius at some point this offseason to try and get the Crows to call his bluff.
Quote from: Mat0369 on September 01, 2018, 02:46:44 PM
Quote from: Jay on August 30, 2018, 11:03:57 AM
How is this different at all? Both are contracted and both want to leave. Also disgruntled is an odd way to describe someone wanting more money - which is a difficult thing to demand when you've only just signed a contract.
Gov is apparently not happy with management for a variety of reasons. One of those is the fact they told him to take less money because everyone at the club was taking less before giving Bryce a pay rise when he moved over. The other one I read but I can't find the link for is that they mishandled his injury which caused him to miss significant time and have surgery on both ankles this year. That was the icing and he wants out. Both of those are pretty different to a player that has had a child and wants to move closer to be with his family.
Quote from: Jay on August 30, 2018, 11:03:57 AM
Would love to know where you got your info of Adelaide being desperate for pick 1. Sure, it would be nice to top end SA talent, but with our list profile, the next couple of years are crucial and Luko won't really help during that time. If we don't get pick 1 then Gov stays. Simple. Carlton have very few good players, there's no way they don't pay up for someone as talented as McGovern who actually wants to go there.
Just do a quick Google search and see all the articles of the Crows wanting a top 3 pick in the draft to get one of Lukosius or Rankine. With player retention obviously being an issue they want an SA guy that isn't going to bolt for cash or to go home. Carlton also have interest in Shiel and Setterfield and pick 1 is more likely to get used in that trade. I can understand giving up the pick in that deal, but not one for Gov.
Quote from: Jay on August 30, 2018, 11:03:57 AM
Lol. Cameron was worth pick 12 and Gov with his size and physical gifts I'd argue is worth more. Not many players who can mark that well overhead have Gov's speed to apply elite forward pressure as well. Those attributes are very hard to find in one player and we'll really miss him if he leaves so if you don't want him then we'll happily keep him for another two years :)
Weller was traded for pick 2 and Tom Mitchell was traded for pick 14. Dumb teams make dumb trades (hi Gold Coast). Even though Mitchell was out of contract it was pretty obvious the Hawks got him at a good price. He is probably worth in the 14-18 range so he is probably worth pick 16.
I don't see a deal getting done for Gov at Carlton if Shiel is on the table. I think it's likely he ends up somewhere else, maybe the Pies if they strike out on Lynch and May. The Crows can deal with GC to get pick 2 (which will cost them less) and hope the Blues stick to the plan of nabbing Walsh if they keep pick 1. I think SOS is going to throw out that Carlton want Lukosius at some point this offseason to try and get the Crows to call his bluff.
Meh, not interested unless you can find the link. Juicy if you can but otherwise it means zip
Quote from: elephants on September 01, 2018, 03:26:46 PM
Meh, not interested unless you can find the link. Juicy if you can but otherwise it means zip
Half the issue is they keep updating articles. I'll see if I can find it.
Carlton recieve: McGovern and 39
Adelaide recieve: 24 and 25
Mark my words ;)
Quote from: Money Shot on September 13, 2018, 08:52:34 AM
Carlton recieve: McGovern and 39
Adelaide recieve: 24 and 25
Mark my words ;)
Gross. Think we'd hang onto him if that were the offer.
And we don't have pick 24 or 25 so no idea where those come from. Even if it's supposed to be our priority and 2nd round pick, GC will have a priority pick in between and the Crows have our 2nd rounder from the trade last year
Quote from: Mat0369 on September 13, 2018, 03:41:12 PM
And we don't have pick 24 or 25 so no idea where those come from. Even if it's supposed to be our priority and 2nd round pick, GC will have a priority pick in between and the Crows have our 2nd rounder from the trade last year
I could be wrong but according to the AFL website we do.
Quote from: Jay on September 13, 2018, 10:53:14 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on September 13, 2018, 08:52:34 AM
Carlton recieve: McGovern and 39
Adelaide recieve: 24 and 25
Mark my words ;)
Gross. Think we'd hang onto him if that were the offer.
Gov would be worth anywhere between 16-24
24 and 25 (although won't happen as per Mat) would be pretty close to fair
Can't be expected to pay overs on "potential"
Gov has shown glimpses, but he's not worth anything lower than 15
Oh, did Dogs and Crows finish right after each other? I think we have both their 2nd round picks. So after Lynch, Gaff, Polec compo (just off the top of my head) plus 2 priority picks they become 29 and 30
Quote from: Mat0369 on September 13, 2018, 04:57:52 PM
Oh, did Dogs and Crows finish right after each other? I think we have both their 2nd round picks. So after Lynch, Gaff, Polec compo (just off the top of my head) plus 2 priority picks they become 29 and 30
Yeah that is true. Didn't take that into account.
Happy Thanksgiving you crazy Crows. Shoutout to my main man TomK.
(https://i.imgur.com/k4Ies2k.jpg)
A couple of really talented artists' work by the looks of it
Lmao at that photo! Sucked in Trinda. No point posting a message on the Richmond board because he comes here more often anyway! Imo think Cotchin should be sacked, didn't show up in a big game. That's the criteria for sacking a captain isn't it?
Quote from: Trindacut on July 29, 2018, 11:38:44 AM
Maybe you should close these forums off to supporters only if you can't handle a bit of fair criticism. Tex Dusty didn't show up last night, and when the Crows Tigers were poor in the third quarter whole game, it was very poor. Their 4th quarter wasn't very convincing either.
I'm still here because I still love footy and I enjoy getting on here and talking about the big talking points. No one could have predicted that Adelaide Richmond would be out the finals at this end of the season. It's worth talking about.
Quote from: Jay on September 22, 2018, 09:44:56 AM
Lmao at that photo! Sucked in Trinda. No point posting a message on the Richmond board because he comes here more often anyway! Imo think Cotchin should be sacked, didn't show up in a big game. That's the criteria for sacking a captain isn't it?
Quote from: Trindacut on July 29, 2018, 11:38:44 AM
Maybe you should close these forums off to supporters only if you can't handle a bit of fair criticism. Tex Dusty didn't show up last night, and when the Crows Tigers were poor in the third quarter whole game, it was very poor. Their 4th quarter wasn't very convincing either.
I'm still here because I still love footy and I enjoy getting on here and talking about the big talking points. No one could have predicted that Adelaide Richmond would be out the finals at this end of the season. It's worth talking about.
Not surprised no one is responding to your useless contributions to this forum.
One look at it and everyone thinks the same thing, you are a deadset f****** mate.
This forum is stupid, and I have no faith in it being moderated fairly. Veteran members have conspired time and again to have me banned permanently from the fanfooty forums. I thought that common sense was prevailing at the administration level because God knows it wasn't at the moderator level.
Turns out though that the administrators are happy to kill the activity of these forums when one-eyed supporters rage out when someone calls out a club or players having problems.
I thought Sloane would go and he didn't, and I thought at the start of the year they might make him Captain to get him to stay. Other then that I've nailed it. I picked them missing the eight, I picked the pre-season camp being worse than how they played it down, and I was right about there being inner termoil months before it got to the media. I don't have a vendetta, I just have strong opinions which I back up when questioned with reasons.
I'll happily find another forum that doesn't ban the victim of trolling and harassment by moron's. Somewhere where I can talk about how surprising West Coast have been this year, how the Tigers blew it and what they need to do to fix things for next year, and how Geelong need to have a hard look at their bottom 8 players in their 22, because that much talent should be playing on September 29.
And somewhere where I can point out that Adelaide were overrated last year, and will be spending the next few years out of the 8 because Tex is a flog, the coach is NQR and the place sounds like a shower joint to work at.
Cya
Quote from: Trindacut on September 28, 2018, 07:32:11 PM
Quote from: Jay on September 22, 2018, 09:44:56 AM
Lmao at that photo! Sucked in Trinda. No point posting a message on the Richmond board because he comes here more often anyway! Imo think Cotchin should be sacked, didn't show up in a big game. That's the criteria for sacking a captain isn't it?
Quote from: Trindacut on July 29, 2018, 11:38:44 AM
Maybe you should close these forums off to supporters only if you can't handle a bit of fair criticism. Tex Dusty didn't show up last night, and when the Crows Tigers were poor in the third quarter whole game, it was very poor. Their 4th quarter wasn't very convincing either.
I'm still here because I still love footy and I enjoy getting on here and talking about the big talking points. No one could have predicted that Adelaide Richmond would be out the finals at this end of the season. It's worth talking about.
Not surprised no one is responding to your useless contributions to this forum.
One look at it and everyone thinks the same thing, you are a deadset f****** mate.
That was just said in a jokingly, right back at you way. Also be careful who you say has useless contributions, because the guy that topped the FF Leagues in SC this year is probably not the one to go after.
Quote from: Trindacut on September 28, 2018, 07:32:11 PM
This forum is stupid, and I have no faith in it being moderated fairly. Veteran members have conspired time and again to have me banned permanently from the fanfooty forums. I thought that common sense was prevailing at the administration level because God knows it wasn't at the moderator level.
Turns out though that the administrators are happy to kill the activity of these forums when one-eyed supporters rage out when someone calls out a club or players having problems.
You've started a lot of what's occurred. You should read into how typing styles can be interpreted in different ways. A lot of what you say comes across really badly, even if that's not the intention.
Quote from: Trindacut on September 28, 2018, 07:32:11 PM
I thought Sloane would go and he didn't, and I thought at the start of the year they might make him Captain to get him to stay. Other then that I've nailed it. I picked them missing the eight, I picked the pre-season camp being worse than how they played it down, and I was right about there being inner termoil months before it got to the media. I don't have a vendetta, I just have strong opinions which I back up when questioned with reasons.
Congrats :) Join more tipping comps, you might win something! ;)
Quote from: Trindacut on September 28, 2018, 07:32:11 PM
I'll happily find another forum that doesn't ban the victim of trolling and harassment by moron's.
This is one. We gave you chances, and you weren't the only one that got in trouble. Tip: As with everywhere you go, you can't just walk in and expect to have respect, gotta be earned. All because this is a footy forum and not a workplace doesn't make it any different.
Also, you called someone a flowerhead only a few lines above, victim mentality much?
Quote from: Trindacut on September 28, 2018, 07:32:11 PM
Somewhere where I can talk about how surprising West Coast have been this year, how the Tigers blew it and what they need to do to fix things for next year, and how Geelong need to have a hard look at their bottom 8 players in their 22, because that much talent should be playing on September 29.
This is one. You're the one that only visits the Adelaide board.
Quote from: Trindacut on September 28, 2018, 07:32:11 PM
And somewhere where I can point out that Adelaide were overrated last year, and will be spending the next few years out of the 8 because Tex is a flog, the coach is NQR and the place sounds like a shower joint to work at.
I hope you're right.
Quote from: Trindacut on September 28, 2018, 07:32:11 PM
Cya
Bye.
Thank flower for that. Deliberately inflammatory in his delivery and he knows this. He'll deny it till the cows come home but hey that's what bullies do best. His comments were cleverly articulated to grind peoples gears. He should think of a career in politics.
Deliberately stayed out of the conversations, at times it's difficult to do but by buying into it you give it oxygen and life, ignore it and it suffocates in the end. While there's blood in the water the sharks will continue to circle we know this. The key is to recognise what their doing and why and once you understand that everything changes it takes away any power they seek and in all honesty you're much happier for it.
Who want's to have one barney after another every time you visit a thread, you say your piece and leave but it still drains you or it still annoys you or causes an element of aggravation, where's the fun in that. Yes we have every right to defend ourselves but at some point you need to realise this is going nowhere and if I continue so shall the situation. It becomes a never ending circle that gets worse and worse until you slip up and cop a ban or worse.
There's no shame in remaining silent, there's no weakness attached to it, only you yourself can give it that power not them, you and how you feel is where their power comes from. Why do that to yourself, why give them what they want. You and you alone hold the power, don't give it away for free. Like they say opinions are like butt holes everyone has one, some are honest some are fake.
Here's my laconic theory on it:
They post like a fisherman baits a hook then they sit back and wait for a bite if the fish bite they'll set up another rod or two and chuck that in also. If they're catching sweet FA they pull their lines in eventually and move on. Don't let yourself be caught, scaled and gutted only to end up on their plate. Why feed THEM any bit of yourself.
Believe me they flowering hate it when the fish don't bite, it wears on them because they don't get what they need to survive
another day.
Any worth in picking up Mayes from Lions?
Tex :'(
WTF is going on with Gibbs?
Bit of a weird one. Would probably be a walk up start at 17 other clubs.
Jeez I like a good Eddie Betts goal like last night in the dying minutes. One of the best parts of this sport.
Quote from: Trindacut on June 09, 2019, 02:58:15 PM
Bit of a weird one. Would probably be a walk up start at 17 other clubs.
Jeez I like a good Eddie Betts goal like last night in the dying minutes. One of the best parts of this sport.
The last 5 minutes of that game was amazing in general. Betts is a master of doing the impossible.
On the Gibbs topic though, there are obviously rumors starting to gain momentum but they sound pretty outlandish. Surely it has to be addressed by the club before they get out of hand.
Quote from: Dave085 on June 09, 2019, 09:51:19 PM
Quote from: Trindacut on June 09, 2019, 02:58:15 PM
Bit of a weird one. Would probably be a walk up start at 17 other clubs.
Jeez I like a good Eddie Betts goal like last night in the dying minutes. One of the best parts of this sport.
The last 5 minutes of that game was amazing in general. Betts is a master of doing the impossible.
On the Gibbs topic though, there are obviously rumors starting to gain momentum but they sound pretty outlandish. Surely it has to be addressed by the club before they get out of hand.
I assume you're talking about the "alleged" gambling debts. I'm surprised it hasn't been mentioned in the media, as surely they must know with the all the "sources" these days ???
Quote from: Rusty00 on June 11, 2019, 11:01:36 PM
I assume you're talking about the "alleged" gambling debts. I'm surprised it hasn't been mentioned in the media, as surely they must know with the all the "sources" these days ???
There's been heaps of stuff in the media this week about gambling, in particular the lady that counselled heaps and heaps of athletes about gambling
No names were mentioned of course, but she did say that two players have lost 1M+ and one of them is no longer in VIC which pretty much confirms that is Gibbs based off the rumours that have doing the rounds the past week, and the other sounds like it's Dayne Beams who is now injured LTI - or is he?
Put 2 and 2 together: Beams poor form for most of the year and now apparently injured, and Gibbs in and out of the side - 1M+ loss would do that you'd think
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 11, 2019, 11:25:34 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on June 11, 2019, 11:01:36 PM
I assume you're talking about the "alleged" gambling debts. I'm surprised it hasn't been mentioned in the media, as surely they must know with the all the "sources" these days ???
There's been heaps of stuff in the media this week about gambling, in particular the lady that counselled heaps and heaps of athletes about gambling
No names were mentioned of course, but she did say that two players have lost 1M+ and one of them is no longer in VIC which pretty much confirms that is Gibbs based off the rumours that have doing the rounds the past week, and the other sounds like it's Dayne Beams who is now injured LTI - or is he?
Put 2 and 2 together: Beams poor form for most of the year and now apparently injured, and Gibbs in and out of the side - 1M+ loss would do that you'd think
Yeah I am. Guess we just wait and see.
Time for a new coach.
Culture problem about to get worse
Don't hurt me please
Quote from: PowerBug on July 28, 2019, 01:04:11 PM
Culture problem about to get worse
Don't hurt me please
Any club below this joke of a club on the ladder should instantly fold tbqh
I feel like Trindacut would be a really handy addition to the forum at the moment ;D :o
Quote from: Trindacut on July 28, 2019, 12:12:26 PM
Time for a new coach.
Quote from: nrich102 on July 28, 2019, 02:00:26 PM
I feel like Trindacut would be a really handy addition to the forum at the moment ;D :o
Quote from: nrich102 on July 28, 2019, 02:00:26 PM
I feel like Trindacut would be a really handy addition to the forum at the moment ;D :o
Quote from: nrich102 on July 28, 2019, 02:00:26 PM
I feel like Trindacut would be a really handy addition to the forum at the moment ;D :o
I breath life in to this place. I might be a handy addition in the Adelaide coaches box
Geez teach me to read the forum
Quote from: TomK on July 28, 2019, 01:42:16 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on July 28, 2019, 01:04:11 PM
Culture problem about to get worse
Don't hurt me please
Any club below this joke of a club on the ladder should instantly fold tbqh
Wow harsh. At least give it until the end of the season to pick the clubs to fold ;)
I was reminded tonight why a relegation system for the AFL wouldn't be the worst thing in the world
Quote from: Trindacut on August 17, 2019, 08:41:11 PM
I was reminded tonight why a relegation system for the AFL wouldn't be the worst thing in the world
Hey Trinda don't think that will ever happen but certainly something NQR at the Crows the coach seems a bit off , a bit weird ?
He has a very weird head shaker
He looks like in another life he would have had a long and notorious career as a church pastor
Quote from: Trindacut on August 17, 2019, 08:57:27 PM
He looks like in another life he would have had a long and notorious career as a church pastor
Well don't know if he will end up in that profession but his days of coaching are looking a bit shaky seems to have lost the players ?
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I'm just glad it's over mate. It's been a tough year to swallow and tbh iv'e got little faith in the club to make the hard calls.
The coaching Dept is a boys club immune from criticism because Roo defends them. The list needs a major rebuild, I doubt they'll do anything that's glaringly needed. Hart can't coach, Burtons a failure just as he was at Brizzy, Campo has had this midfield for 10 years and it's very ordinary compared to the best of them. Pykes gameplan is shower. List turnover horrendous, slow as shower.
The club needs a rebuild from the ground up. You watch very little will change. Roo's on twitter defending the coaches already and saying if the fans want to be this critical maybe they don't need to be supporting the club. Flower me he's clueless.