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Title: Port Discussion thread 2018
Post by: PowerBug on March 24, 2018, 09:44:10 PM
Good start with a win, big worry with the Ryder injury however. I felt super happy with Watts kicking the first goal of the game, of him, Motlop and Rockliff he was the one I really wanted us to secure so it felt good seeing him show his worth early. Motlop's two goals were nice and he got the crowd involved too, same when Rocky kicked his goal :)

Onto Sydney next week now, without our ruckman though :'(
Title: Re: Port Discussion thread 2018
Post by: BB67th on March 24, 2018, 09:53:34 PM
Any word yet on how bad Ryder's injury is?
Title: Re: Port Discussion thread 2018
Post by: PowerBug on March 24, 2018, 10:25:50 PM
Quote from: BB67th on March 24, 2018, 09:53:34 PM
Any word yet on how bad Ryder's injury is?
KH: I think Paddy will miss a little bit of time, I don’t have any details but he does have some history #pafclive
KH: We have some great options in the forward line, which is very pleasing in the coaches box #pafclive

That's all we have at the moment.
Title: Re: Port Discussion thread 2018
Post by: BB67th on March 24, 2018, 10:52:00 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on March 24, 2018, 10:25:50 PM
Quote from: BB67th on March 24, 2018, 09:53:34 PM
Any word yet on how bad Ryder's injury is?
KH: I think Paddy will miss a little bit of time, I don’t have any details but he does have some history #pafclive
KH: We have some great options in the forward line, which is very pleasing in the coaches box #pafclive

That's all we have at the moment.
That will make for interesting ruck situation for the Power. Who would be expected to play first ruck next week with no more Lobbe or Trengrove?
Title: Re: Port Discussion thread 2018
Post by: nas on March 25, 2018, 11:55:40 AM
Quote from: BB67th on March 24, 2018, 10:52:00 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on March 24, 2018, 10:25:50 PM
Quote from: BB67th on March 24, 2018, 09:53:34 PM
Any word yet on how bad Ryder's injury is?
KH: I think Paddy will miss a little bit of time, I don’t have any details but he does have some history #pafclive
KH: We have some great options in the forward line, which is very pleasing in the coaches box #pafclive

That's all we have at the moment.
That will make for interesting ruck situation for the Power. Who would be expected to play first ruck next week with no more Lobbe or Trengrove?

Westhoff with Howard assisting.
Title: Re: Port Discussion thread 2018
Post by: Nige on March 25, 2018, 12:37:38 PM
Quote from: nas on March 25, 2018, 11:55:40 AM
Quote from: BB67th on March 24, 2018, 10:52:00 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on March 24, 2018, 10:25:50 PM
Quote from: BB67th on March 24, 2018, 09:53:34 PM
Any word yet on how bad Ryder's injury is?
KH: I think Paddy will miss a little bit of time, I don’t have any details but he does have some history #pafclive
KH: We have some great options in the forward line, which is very pleasing in the coaches box #pafclive

That's all we have at the moment.
That will make for interesting ruck situation for the Power. Who would be expected to play first ruck next week with no more Lobbe or Trengrove?

Westhoff with Howard assisting.
Westhoff isn't a ruck though and basically was BOG yesterday floating around as a utility and Doogz has proved he's a good defender. Billy Frampton's been in the system for 4 years now, time for him to show he's the future with Hoff/Dixon/Doogz pinch hitting if/when need be.

That's what makes sense to me from the outside looking in.
Title: Re: Port Discussion thread 2018
Post by: nas on March 25, 2018, 01:23:15 PM
Quote from: Nige on March 25, 2018, 12:37:38 PM
Quote from: nas on March 25, 2018, 11:55:40 AM
Quote from: BB67th on March 24, 2018, 10:52:00 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on March 24, 2018, 10:25:50 PM
Quote from: BB67th on March 24, 2018, 09:53:34 PM
Any word yet on how bad Ryder's injury is?
KH: I think Paddy will miss a little bit of time, I don’t have any details but he does have some history #pafclive
KH: We have some great options in the forward line, which is very pleasing in the coaches box #pafclive

That's all we have at the moment.
That will make for interesting ruck situation for the Power. Who would be expected to play first ruck next week with no more Lobbe or Trengrove?

Westhoff with Howard assisting.
Westhoff isn't a ruck though and basically was BOG yesterday floating around as a utility and Doogz has proved he's a good defender. Billy Frampton's been in the system for 4 years now, time for him to show he's the future with Hoff/Dixon/Doogz pinch hitting if/when need be.

That's what makes sense to me from the outside looking in.

Another is Peter Ladhams. http://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/player-profile/peter-ladhams
The ruckman was taken in the rookie draft after being one of SA's more promising options in 2016. Port's tallest player for some time, Ladhams will take time to develop like all ruckmen.
Spent time Forward mostly last year in the SANFL.

Think the opportunity is there for Billy to grasp his chance if selected.
Title: Re: Port Discussion thread 2018
Post by: PowerBug on March 25, 2018, 06:11:25 PM
Looking at what we had yesterday, I essentially agree with Nig. Dixon we want up forward as the main target, Dougal we want in defence, and Hoff can't play 1R. I doubt we will make Watts play 1R as it throws out the balance, so expect to see a proper ruckman be given a shot.

However with the return of Gray, and the lack of ruckman in the Sydney side, it would not surprise me if our only change next week is Ryder for Gray and we roll smaller for the one week.
Title: Re: Port Discussion thread 2018
Post by: Koop on March 28, 2018, 11:08:13 AM
Quote from: PowerBug on March 25, 2018, 06:11:25 PM
However with the return of Gray, and the lack of ruckman in the Sydney side, it would not surprise me if our only change next week is Ryder for Gray and we roll smaller for the one week.

Yeah this is what I'm expecting too. Good win first up by the boys though!
Title: Re: Port Discussion thread 2018
Post by: PowerBug on April 01, 2018, 04:56:38 PM
So we're going to roll with Westhoff doing the bulk it seems, then Howard, Dixon and WINES will be helping out when required. I expect we will try to roll for as long as possible, so my guess is against Sydney and Brisbane we will roll this way, but then for the Essendon game Frampton will come in.
Title: Re: Port Discussion thread 2018
Post by: powersuperkents on April 01, 2018, 08:12:26 PM
I know people talk about GWS' squad but the Power are looking like a genuine super team (these young players are guns - Marshall, SPP, Houston, Howard, Bonner, and Clurey + Dom Barry has been good at applying pressure). Hopefully they can keep this up  ;D

I'm happy with all the star recruits thus far (Rockliff is tackling and he was never going to get the same disposal count in the Port Adelaide midfield as he did in the Brisbane lineup (not knocking Brisbane though, just their pre-Fagan midfield which was originally either him and Redden or him, Beams & Zorko)
Title: Re: Port Discussion thread 2018
Post by: Koop on April 01, 2018, 08:20:52 PM
Good win. Motlop really starting to warm on me tbh. Wines showed why he's worth the big money, and Dougal was really impressive for me despite conceding four. Think the kid really has a bright future.

Carn the Pear!
Title: Re: Port Discussion thread 2018
Post by: PowerBug on April 01, 2018, 08:28:36 PM
Carn the Pear, great win, great performance after HT against a great team.
Title: Re: Port Discussion thread 2018
Post by: kilbluff1985 on April 01, 2018, 08:52:38 PM
what did u flowers do to Rocky
Title: Re: Port Discussion thread 2018
Post by: powersuperkents on April 02, 2018, 11:28:25 AM
Quote from: Koop on April 01, 2018, 08:20:52 PM
... Motlop really starting to warm on me tbh
+1

He was the recruit I was originally least excited by, however, he has been very impressive.

Structurally, Watts would be the most important of the three but Motlop has still been the best to date (two solid games)

People denigrated Port last season, labeling them 'flat-track bullies' (which wasn't 100% correct because we did beat Sydney and West Coast (and I want to count that rigged match against Geelong), however, the same was said about West Coast in 2014 but look what happened in 2015 (and they didn't beat a single top 8 side in 2014).

Last year was refreshing due to the fact that it was Port's most consistent season under Hinkley (along with 2013) - they didn't drop a single game (something that the eventual premiers did when they lost to Freo & St Kilda).

Obviously, the next step in the team's development is knocking off the top tier clubs so, hopefully, this game is a sign of things to come. 

I think the showdown will provide a good indication of how the side may fare during finals game this season
Title: Re: Port Discussion thread 2018
Post by: iZander on April 02, 2018, 11:50:47 AM
Honestly thought that one of the differences in the second half was dixon playing more of the ruck and thats against a team with one of the worst ruck set ups this year, i have a feeling hes gonna need to play the majority in there if he can in upcoming games which hurts the fwd line

What do you guys think about the small forward line approach? Personally i love it Boak looked a superstar forward, wingard, gray, watts, gray, rocky, motlop i think that could trouble every backline :P
Title: Re: Port Discussion thread 2018
Post by: crowls on April 02, 2018, 01:36:03 PM
rocky is there for a few tackles by the look of it.  doing nothing else.   bet he is missing Brisbane already
Title: Re: Port Discussion thread 2018
Post by: PowerBug on April 02, 2018, 01:55:42 PM
Quote from: crowls on April 02, 2018, 01:36:03 PM
rocky is there for a few tackles by the look of it.  doing nothing else.   bet he is missing Brisbane already
No idea what the go is here, surely as the season goes on he will play more midfield. Hopefully we are just easing him into the season :) Last thing we (and he) wants is to get an injury so early in the season. No way a player like him will be kept out of the midfield for the whole season.

From an AFL Fantasy perspective just imagine if he get fwd status in Round 6 after scoring 30-50 for 5 weeks. Price drops to $400k and then he goes into the midfield and we pick him up post-bye! That would be a dream come true.


However it wouldn't surprise me if he plays bulk midfield this week against the Lions as well, just because it's his old team.
Title: Re: Port Discussion thread 2018
Post by: crowls on April 02, 2018, 02:17:38 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on April 02, 2018, 01:55:42 PM
Quote from: crowls on April 02, 2018, 01:36:03 PM
rocky is there for a few tackles by the look of it.  doing nothing else.   bet he is missing Brisbane already
No idea what the go is here, surely as the season goes on he will play more midfield. Hopefully we are just easing him into the season :) Last thing we (and he) wants is to get an injury so early in the season. No way a player like him will be kept out of the midfield for the whole season.

From an AFL Fantasy perspective just imagine if he get fwd status in Round 6 after scoring 30-50 for 5 weeks. Price drops to $400k and then he goes into the midfield and we pick him up post-bye! That would be a dream come true.


However it wouldn't surprise me if he plays bulk midfield this week against the Lions as well, just because it's his old team.
you are right PB,  would be a great fwd upgrade in AFL.     
Title: Re: Port Discussion thread 2018
Post by: Ringo on April 02, 2018, 05:54:15 PM
Quote from: crowls on April 02, 2018, 02:17:38 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on April 02, 2018, 01:55:42 PM
Quote from: crowls on April 02, 2018, 01:36:03 PM
rocky is there for a few tackles by the look of it.  doing nothing else.   bet he is missing Brisbane already
No idea what the go is here, surely as the season goes on he will play more midfield. Hopefully we are just easing him into the season :) Last thing we (and he) wants is to get an injury so early in the season. No way a player like him will be kept out of the midfield for the whole season.

From an AFL Fantasy perspective just imagine if he get fwd status in Round 6 after scoring 30-50 for 5 weeks. Price drops to $400k and then he goes into the midfield and we pick him up post-bye! That would be a dream come true.


However it wouldn't surprise me if he plays bulk midfield this week against the Lions as well, just because it's his old team.
you are right PB,  would be a great fwd upgrade in AFL.   
Beem having a discussion as to who goes to him next week or whether we put any attention to him.  Nick Eobertson favoured to get the role.
Title: Re: Port Discussion thread 2018
Post by: PowerBug on April 09, 2018, 01:18:28 PM
Article in the paper saying Frampton needs to play this weekend. If you scroll up a bit you'll see what my guess was for our ruck situtation :P (Hint: Very similar to what's happened so far)
Title: Re: Port Discussion thread 2018
Post by: Ricochet on April 09, 2018, 07:30:30 PM
Reports by 7news that the club is looking into claims that a player sexually assaulted a woman in a nightclub over the weekend...

Apparently Sam Powell-Pepper is the player
Title: Re: Port Discussion thread 2018
Post by: Ringo on April 09, 2018, 09:12:05 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on April 09, 2018, 07:30:30 PM
Reports by 7news that the club is looking into claims that a player sexually assaulted a woman in a nightclub over the weekend...

Apparently Sam Powell-Pepper is the player
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/04/09/power-young-star-under-investigation-for-alleged-assault/

Article on it to confirm.  remember investigation at this stage but why put yourself in these situations?
Title: Re: Port Discussion thread 2018
Post by: shaker on April 10, 2018, 09:46:32 AM
Quote from: Ringo on April 09, 2018, 09:12:05 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on April 09, 2018, 07:30:30 PM
Reports by 7news that the club is looking into claims that a player sexually assaulted a woman in a nightclub over the weekend...

Apparently Sam Powell-Pepper is the player
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/04/09/power-young-star-under-investigation-for-alleged-assault/

Article on it to confirm.  remember investigation at this stage but why put yourself in these situations?
Has there been a complaint made to the police ? if not how did the media get hold of this ?
Title: Re: Port Discussion thread 2018
Post by: nas on April 10, 2018, 09:51:51 AM
Quote from: shaker on April 10, 2018, 09:46:32 AM
Quote from: Ringo on April 09, 2018, 09:12:05 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on April 09, 2018, 07:30:30 PM
Reports by 7news that the club is looking into claims that a player sexually assaulted a woman in a nightclub over the weekend...

Apparently Sam Powell-Pepper is the player
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/04/09/power-young-star-under-investigation-for-alleged-assault/

Article on it to confirm.  remember investigation at this stage but why put yourself in these situations?
Has there been a complaint made to the police ? if not how did the media get hold of this ?

Yep. http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/teams/port-adelaide-investigating-claims-one-of-its-players-was-involved-in-bar-incident/news-story/38d0f127fb2d4af0a1b877f1a1270f2d
Title: Re: Port Discussion thread 2018
Post by: elephants on April 10, 2018, 09:59:11 AM
Terrible stuff, hope its not true but either way its a shower situation.

Whats Pear fans thoughts on Hoff? Obviously rucking mainly at the moment, but with Watts and Motlop into the fwd line plus Boak spending a heap more time there and Rocky there for portions, has this freed up Hoff to do that horrendously slutty utility/wing role that he did a few years back?
Title: Re: Port Discussion thread 2018
Post by: shaker on April 10, 2018, 10:42:59 AM
Quote from: nas on April 10, 2018, 09:51:51 AM
Quote from: shaker on April 10, 2018, 09:46:32 AM
Quote from: Ringo on April 09, 2018, 09:12:05 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on April 09, 2018, 07:30:30 PM
Reports by 7news that the club is looking into claims that a player sexually assaulted a woman in a nightclub over the weekend...

Apparently Sam Powell-Pepper is the player
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/04/09/power-young-star-under-investigation-for-alleged-assault/

Article on it to confirm.  remember investigation at this stage but why put yourself in these situations?
Has there been a complaint made to the police ? if not how did the media get hold of this ?

Yep. http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/teams/port-adelaide-investigating-claims-one-of-its-players-was-involved-in-bar-incident/news-story/38d0f127fb2d4af0a1b877f1a1270f2d
Thanks nas sounds like the young lady is not going to take this further lucky for him , when will these peanuts learn
Title: Re: Port Discussion thread 2018
Post by: PowerBug on April 10, 2018, 12:04:15 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 10, 2018, 09:59:11 AM
Terrible stuff, hope its not true but either way its a shower situation.

Whats Pear fans thoughts on Hoff? Obviously rucking mainly at the moment, but with Watts and Motlop into the fwd line plus Boak spending a heap more time there and Rocky there for portions, has this freed up Hoff to do that horrendously slutty utility/wing role that he did a few years back?
When we signed Ryder I thought he’d play that role and average 140 SC (Maybe a slight exaggeration). Then we signed Dixon and I was more confident. Now we have Watts too so yes surely he plays the best role a footballer can have “do whatever the flower you want out there” :D
Title: Re: Port Discussion thread 2018
Post by: Trindacut on April 11, 2018, 05:19:09 PM
Quote from: shaker on April 10, 2018, 10:42:59 AM
Quote from: nas on April 10, 2018, 09:51:51 AM
Quote from: shaker on April 10, 2018, 09:46:32 AM
Quote from: Ringo on April 09, 2018, 09:12:05 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on April 09, 2018, 07:30:30 PM
Reports by 7news that the club is looking into claims that a player sexually assaulted a woman in a nightclub over the weekend...

Apparently Sam Powell-Pepper is the player
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/04/09/power-young-star-under-investigation-for-alleged-assault/

Article on it to confirm.  remember investigation at this stage but why put yourself in these situations?
Has there been a complaint made to the police ? if not how did the media get hold of this ?

Yep. http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/teams/port-adelaide-investigating-claims-one-of-its-players-was-involved-in-bar-incident/news-story/38d0f127fb2d4af0a1b877f1a1270f2d
Thanks nas sounds like the young lady is not going to take this further lucky for him , when will these peanuts learn

Would be interested to hear what was inappropriate. What the media labels inappropriate these days can sometimes be far from. Aside from that it's obviously disappointing he was there outside what the team allows.

Aside from that, Had Port in the top 4 this year and they aren't disappointing. Good win over Sydney particularly. I don't rate Sydney that well, but everyone else does so solid win. Got over the line with the Lions too. Will be interested to see them come against some better sides in the coming weeks.
Title: Re: Port Discussion thread 2018
Post by: PowerBug on April 15, 2018, 07:19:39 PM
Didn't get to see much today, what happened? Saw in the paper that Docklands is by far our worst ground to play on, all our 100+ against games seem to be there (To be fair Docklands does average more points per game than other grounds).


Onto Geelong next week who will be tough. Wonder if Marshall's injury is bad enough to not play next week, might see Frampton finally get a game.
Title: Re: Port Discussion thread 2018
Post by: PowerBug on April 15, 2018, 08:53:47 PM
http://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/news/2018-04-15/hinkley-we-havent-got-a-ruck-ready-to-play
Quote from: Ken Hinkley
"I should say this really clearly; we haven't got a ruck ready to play," Hinkley said.

"I think people should stop calling for that because they don't know. It's a ridiculous thing to do from outside to say, pick a young ruckman who's not ready to play.

"If you watched our SANFL yesterday, you would see some young rucks not ready to play.

"I'm not going to play people who don't deserve to be out there and can't physically compete when they're out there.

"Don't get confused with what we've got underneath. Don't go and say people should play if you're uninformed with their ability."

Well that ends any chance of a young ruck getting a call-up doesn't it.
Title: Re: Port Discussion thread 2018
Post by: Ricochet on April 16, 2018, 11:45:40 AM
Well at least those rucks know where they stand...  :-\
Title: Re: Port Discussion thread 2018
Post by: elephants on April 16, 2018, 11:06:01 PM
Can see how it would be extremely frustrating for Hinkley. Everyone's an expert from the outside. If they're not ready, they're not ready. If the kids are smart they'll take this on board and get better. If they get offended and down about this, then they're not cutout to be AFL footballers imo.

Refreshing to see an AFL coach talk with clarity and honesty.
Title: Re: Port Discussion thread 2018
Post by: Trindacut on June 16, 2018, 07:03:37 AM
Good to see Port improving. I thought they would be a Top 4 prospect this year. Definitely a chance for that if they keep playing well and manage Ryder.

More midfield time for Rocky pls thx.
Title: Re: Port Discussion thread 2018
Post by: PowerBug on June 28, 2018, 12:57:16 PM
Late to one training session and boom, you're missing this week :o I wonder if he'd do the same if it was a big game or a final?

It's opened the door for Trengove though, keen to see how he goes :)
Title: Re: Port Discussion thread 2018
Post by: Trindacut on June 28, 2018, 07:07:52 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on June 28, 2018, 12:57:16 PM
Late to one training session and boom, you're missing this week :o I wonder if he'd do the same if it was a big game or a final?

It's opened the door for Trengove though, keen to see how he goes :)

I'd suggest that a number of contributing factors would go in to it. Late to a training sesh is a very media friendly reason
Title: Re: Port Discussion thread 2018
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 29, 2018, 12:40:43 PM
anyone got word on ryder
Title: Re: Port Discussion thread 2018
Post by: GoLions on August 12, 2018, 01:03:17 PM
SHUEY!!! GOV!!!
Title: Re: Port Discussion thread 2018
Post by: elephants on August 12, 2018, 01:19:56 PM
Quote from: GoLions on August 12, 2018, 01:03:17 PM
SHUEY!!! GOV!!!

I just love paying Port at the Adelaide Oval :P

Tbf, Gray should have slotted that and iced the game but wowee!
Title: Re: Port Discussion thread 2018
Post by: Nige on August 12, 2018, 02:07:14 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 12, 2018, 01:19:56 PM
Quote from: GoLions on August 12, 2018, 01:03:17 PM
SHUEY!!! GOV!!!

I just love paying Port at the Adelaide Oval :P

Tbf, Gray should have slotted that and iced the game but wowee!
You paid them? To throw? To get injured? Is this matchifixing? A new low for yourself ele, carn mate. Ridiculous behaviour! :P
Title: Re: Port Discussion thread 2018
Post by: PowerBug on August 12, 2018, 02:32:24 PM
There were a lot of really angry people leaving the ground yesterday.

I am full of praise for how we battled in that last qtr, one on the bench with arguably our two most important players out of the game, and the third (Houston) was playing really well up until that point. Westhoff having to ruck the entire qtr, and was the sole target when we tried to get the ball out of defence, he did all he could to keep us in the game. Full of praise for him. The Eagles had plenty of chances in the last qtr to get in front and wasted them levels out the Gray misses, I'm not dirty on him.

We were great for 19 minutes of that last qtr and the last one cost us. Disappointing, but I felt like our season ended when we had two players being stretchered off in that 3rd quarter.
Title: Re: Port Discussion thread 2018
Post by: PowerBug on August 12, 2018, 03:13:10 PM
I also think we should try to land Braydon Preuss when Norf trade for Polec