Nathan Wilson available in 10 months time. Get your offers in.
Quote from: meow meow on November 22, 2017, 12:56:18 PM
Nathan Wilson available in 10 months time. Get your offers in.
Ill give you pick 18
Quote from: iZander on November 22, 2017, 12:57:32 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 22, 2017, 12:56:18 PM
Nathan Wilson available in 10 months time. Get your offers in.
Ill give you pick 18
Who is under the minumum cap?
When Cairo take a couple of my picks in the national draft it's because we're draft tampering and organizing future trades under the table.
Christchurch trade: 2017 picks 22 + 33 + 2018 first round
Cairo trade: 2018 first round + Jeff Garlett
Quote from: iZander on November 22, 2017, 12:57:32 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 22, 2017, 12:56:18 PM
Nathan Wilson available in 10 months time. Get your offers in.
Ill give you pick 18
I think you actually get pick 19 compensation if you lose under 4 games.
I'm not looking to breakup the Premiership winning team sorry fellas. All offers for Premiership Captain Ben Jacobs will be ignored!
Quote from: meow meow on November 22, 2017, 01:40:07 PM
When Cairo take a couple of my picks in the national draft it's because we're draft tampering and organizing future trades under the table.
Christchurch trade: 2017 picks 22 + 33 + 2018 first round
Cairo trade: 2018 first round + Jeff Garlett
Can't wait to have Ed Richards and Brayden Crossley join the club!
Shaw and McVeigh firmly on the Dublin radar.
probably cost too much in the cap though.
Might see if i can jag a legend in Gaz too just because, why not.
inb4 Holz offers up one of his young guns with plenty of potential in Nick Holman, along with a first-round draft pick for Ablett and Heater.
Quote from: Adamant on April 23, 2018, 02:49:21 PM
inb4 Holz offers up one of his young guns with plenty of potential in Nick Holman, along with a first-round draft pick for Ablett and Heater.
sounds like a good deal to me.
would help more if i could trade a injury prone player with 1 good year and a young guy with plenty of potential for a deal like this.
Matthew Kreuzer + Jordan De Goey
for Nic Naitanui + Jaeger O'Meara + Jesse Hogan
perhaps i can make a move like Brad Crouch + Holman + Cap Fillers
for Sam Docherty + Zac Williams + Andrew McGrath
You forgot Callum Brown in that deal m8. A former WXV pick 30 who will eventually prove his worth. Also Kreuz and JDG were worth more than Nic Nat and JOM at the time of the trade, and you said it yourself that Hogan is the equivalent of Jeff Garlett so I don't see any issue with it.
I just wish I was able to trade an 80 mid + a 43 defender + a VFL standard forward for a 108 mid + a former WXV pick 19.
Let Ablett go back to his rightful home
Quote from: Levi434 on April 23, 2018, 03:48:10 PM
Let Ablett go back to his rightful home
São Paulo?
Quote from: Levi434 on April 23, 2018, 03:48:10 PM
Let Ablett go back to his rightful home
Sao Paulo is gone.
Quote from: Adamant on April 23, 2018, 03:44:09 PM
You forgot Callum Brown in that deal m8. A former WXV pick 30 who will eventually prove his worth. Also Kreuz and JDG were worth more than Nic Nat and JOM at the time of the trade, and you said it yourself that Hogan is the equivalent of Jeff Garlett so I don't see any issue with it.
I just wish I was able to trade an 80 mid + a 43 defender + a VFL standard forward for a 108 mid + a former WXV pick 19.
I didnt forget Callum Brown I excluded him.
funny how Weits is a 43 defender and Balic is a WXV pick 19.
nice skew of data.
I can do it too
25 year old 80 mid + former WXV pick 19 + former WXV pick 31 for almost 30 year old 108 mid and a vfl player.
for the record the trade was a Greenwood + Dunstan for Selwood Balic.
calling Luke Parker a gun is a good joke
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on April 23, 2018, 04:21:49 PM
calling Luke Parker a gun is a good joke
25 year old averaging 101 is still pretty decent.
however considering he cost Dow Cerra and Brayshaw, Coach Meow might be shot in a few years for doing that deal.
Quote from: meow meow on May 14, 2018, 01:49:45 PM
Might have to bump Harris Andrews up into the guns category after his 5-round 100 point average, with a low of 80 in that period. What a champ.
flowering gun
Give me Caddy.
Logan Austin averaging 106 if anyone is interested in a defender.
Quote from: Toga on May 27, 2018, 11:40:41 AM
Quote from: Nige on May 26, 2018, 05:41:01 PM
Give me Caddy.
>:D >:D >:D
I've studied the CIA's enhanced interrogation techniques, so you'll wanna do this the easy way.
Quote from: meow meow on June 28, 2018, 07:38:15 PM
http://www.sportingnews.com/au/afl/news/is-fremantles-brennan-cox-better-than-the-blues-charlie-curnow-quite-possibly-afl-dockers-carlton/1kt71jggyrzjr1or5cn5rlcn2r
Cox and my 2nd for Curnow and Seoul's first should be fine.
Why are you adding your pick?
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on July 08, 2018, 10:14:01 PM
Quote from: meow meow on June 28, 2018, 07:38:15 PM
http://www.sportingnews.com/au/afl/news/is-fremantles-brennan-cox-better-than-the-blues-charlie-curnow-quite-possibly-afl-dockers-carlton/1kt71jggyrzjr1or5cn5rlcn2r
Cox and my 2nd for Curnow and Seoul's first should be fine.
Why are you adding your pick?
So I can whinge and whine about it later and claim that I deserve compo for doing bad trades.
Clay Smith available for a pick upgrade.
19 for Smith and your first?
McKernan is averaging 79 you cows. Not bad for a ruckman. Definitely worth pick 12.
Quote from: meow meow on July 09, 2018, 08:31:05 PM
McKernan is averaging 79 you cows. Not bad for a ruckman. Definitely worth pick 12.
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos
Quote from: GoLions on July 09, 2018, 08:35:03 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 09, 2018, 08:31:05 PM
McKernan is averaging 79 you cows. Not bad for a ruckman. Definitely worth pick 12.
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos
Kang did nothing wrong.
Quote from: Nige on July 09, 2018, 10:18:22 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 09, 2018, 08:35:03 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 09, 2018, 08:31:05 PM
McKernan is averaging 79 you cows. Not bad for a ruckman. Definitely worth pick 12.
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos
Kang did nothing wrong.
Nothing except:
1. Made me downgrade a pick to trade a 78 average forward and passed it
2. Too much slobber
3. Blocked a fair McKernan trade
Got one blockbuster trade lined up already. There will be controversy with this one so hold onto your hats.
Quote from: meow meow on July 10, 2018, 12:27:25 PM
Got one blockbuster trade lined up already. There will be controversy with this one so hold onto your hats.
I can hardly wait. :P
Quote from: Torpedo10 on July 10, 2018, 04:22:38 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 10, 2018, 12:27:25 PM
Got one blockbuster trade lined up already. There will be controversy with this one so hold onto your hats.
I can hardly wait. :P
Its probably something like Pick 60 For Pick 55 + Pick 79 knowing Meow.
I'm just waiting for Holz to send me his Holman + Henry offer ;D
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 10, 2018, 05:47:11 PM
I'm just waiting for Holz to send me his Holman + Henry offer ;D
its not coming
Henry will have minimal cap, not great trade value and at this stage looks to be in the 22, id say there is a very good chance he stays on my list.
Holman is available at this stage as are all my forwards not named Gunston or Tmac. My preference is to move Hoff, Hawkins or Jroo given they have more trade value then Holman but are older
RD I'll give you Henry, Holman and my first for Higgins
Quote from: meow meow on July 10, 2018, 06:06:29 PM
RD I'll give you Henry, Holman and my first for Higgins
HigGOAT would need a lot more than that to move!
Part of me really wants to send him back to you, because he really is a meow type player, but you know you're going to have to give us a gun in return ;)
As for us, I doubt we can trade Ryder unless we got a ruck back, so I'd say he stays with us and you all know I will never trade Heeney, but everyone else is open for discussion I would think (Pending confirmation with AK)
I think this is going to be the first time we've ever had a Top 10 pick too which is exciting
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 10, 2018, 06:22:16 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 10, 2018, 06:06:29 PM
RD I'll give you Henry, Holman and my first for Higgins
HigGOAT would need a lot more than that to move!
Part of me really wants to send him back to you, because he really is a meow type player, but you know you're going to have to give us a gun in return ;)
As for us, I doubt we can trade Ryder unless we got a ruck back, so I'd say he stays with us and you all know I will never trade Heeney, but everyone else is open for discussion I would think (Pending confirmation with AK)
I think this is going to be the first time we've ever had a Top 10 pick too which is exciting
Who knows whats gunna happen RD. We have won the impossible games before so the season isn't over yet.
Heeney is the only player not on the table.
Ryder can move if we can get another ruck but would take a lot to move.
Higgo same boat - gettable but need a bit to move him.
Everyone else IMO can move for the right price - best to message RD given my current work commitments mean I am not on here often.
Sorry AK your season is in fact over. I offered RD 8th spot but he didn't want it, now I have rescinded my offer and decided to win the flag instead. Pick 10 is yours.
RD you've awoken the beast...
Quote from: Levi434 on July 10, 2018, 07:37:23 PM
RD you've awoken the beast...
Half the team been asleep since 2014
Quote from: Levi434 on July 10, 2018, 07:37:23 PM
RD you've awoken the beast...
Just trying to hook meow up :)
Ablett to go 140+ avg from here on out now
Hamling 89pts 100% effective disposal. Sandi umm sitting on a really long couch getting ready to watch the WC Final. 4.8% effective beers.
What
My first round pick for Hamling.
Quote from: meow meow on July 16, 2018, 09:37:06 AM
My first round pick for Hamling.
Not enough
Parker + 1st might get you in the conversation though
Hamling > Andrews > Weitering
If Weit is worth 3 pick 1's then Hamling is worth 9 pick 1's.
Quote from: Levi434 on July 16, 2018, 11:51:55 AM
Hamling > Andrews > Weitering
If Weit is worth 3 pick 1's then Hamling is worth 9 pick 1's.
Don't forget Dan Houston in that group of superstars!
Quote from: Ricochet on July 16, 2018, 01:39:55 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on July 16, 2018, 11:51:55 AM
Hamling > Andrews > Weitering
If Weit is worth 3 pick 1's then Hamling is worth 9 pick 1's.
Don't forget Dan Houston in that group of superstars!
big meh
Colin O'Riordan 85 average
Quote from: Holz on July 16, 2018, 01:44:07 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 16, 2018, 01:39:55 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on July 16, 2018, 11:51:55 AM
Hamling > Andrews > Weitering
If Weit is worth 3 pick 1's then Hamling is worth 9 pick 1's.
Don't forget Dan Houston in that group of superstars!
big meh
Colin O'Riordan 85 average
O'Riordan, Holman, Henry for Jake Lloyd
Quote from: Ricochet on July 16, 2018, 01:39:55 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on July 16, 2018, 11:51:55 AM
Hamling > Andrews > Weitering
If Weit is worth 3 pick 1's then Hamling is worth 9 pick 1's.
Don't forget Dan Houston in that group of superstars!
:P
Houston goes 70+ most weeks, and has plenty of 80+ scores too. 16 games this year and only 4 times has he gone under 70. That's pretty damn good for a 21 year old, and certainly more than good enough for D4
How many other 21 year old defenders are doing that? Not much I would have thought
Quote from: Ricochet on July 16, 2018, 01:52:05 PM
O'Riordan, Holman, Henry for Jake Lloyd
You'd need to add more on your side mate
Lloyd + Hanners should do it
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 16, 2018, 02:19:33 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 16, 2018, 01:52:05 PM
O'Riordan, Holman, Henry for Jake Lloyd
You'd need to add more on your side mate
Lloyd + Hanners should do it
why would i give depth and get depth back. It would be better just to drop Henry and Hanners.
Toby McLean on the table for pick 2 + change
Only interested in Hamling if he comes with Jed Lamb.
Quote from: GoLions on July 16, 2018, 05:15:10 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 16, 2018, 03:47:26 PM
Toby McLean on the table for pick 2 + change
Pick 1
Pretty sure you're getting Big H for pick 1. Could go with Mac if the #2 pick holder wants #10 + Ablett for it though.
Andrew Gaff is for sale, we are looking for a weaker Mid who spends half the season in the VFL. Hopefully we can rebuild and finish 9th.
Quote from: upthemaidens on July 16, 2018, 07:19:02 PM
Andrew Gaff is for sale, we are looking for a weaker Mid who spends half the season in the VFL. Hopefully we can rebuild and finish 9th.
Someones butt hurt
You do realise that the actual process of rebuilding takes time right? You don't just trade and then it's complete instantly
Stop embarrassing yourself
meow, seeing as McLean will lose his fwd DPP I'm sure UTM will do a straight swap of McLean for Fasolo with you now. Fasolo being a forward is worth so much more you know
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 16, 2018, 07:30:16 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on July 16, 2018, 07:19:02 PM
Andrew Gaff is for sale, we are looking for a weaker Mid who spends half the season in the VFL. Hopefully we can rebuild and finish 9th.
Someones butt hurt
You do realise that the actual process of rebuilding takes time right? You don't just trade and then it's complete instantly
Stop embarrassing yourself
meow, seeing as McLean will lose his fwd DPP I'm sure UTM will do a straight swap of McLean for Fasolo with you now. Fasolo being a forward is worth so much more you know
Fasolo isn't pick 2. I don't care if people think they can or will offer more, if the deal doesn't include pick 2 then there is no deal*
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 16, 2018, 07:30:16 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on July 16, 2018, 07:19:02 PM
Andrew Gaff is for sale, we are looking for a weaker Mid who spends half the season in the VFL. Hopefully we can rebuild and finish 9th.
Someones butt hurt
You do realise that the actual process of rebuilding takes time right? You don't just trade and then it's complete instantly
Stop embarrassing yourself
meow, seeing as McLean will lose his fwd DPP I'm sure UTM will do a straight swap of McLean for Fasolo with you now. Fasolo being a forward is worth so much more you know
C'mon man don't be mad, please sell us Dom Tyson.
I'll take Dom Tyson since everyone hates him. Especially a so called Melbourne "supporter".
Have a look at all of these monster trades made by UTM and Pacific over the past 3 years
We can certainly credit Pacific's success to UTM - what a master coach
2017
Trade 15
Pacific trade: Lee Spurr
Christchurch trade: Harry Wigg
Trade 51
Pacific trade: Declan Mountford + Pick 34
Mexico trade: Nathan Hrovat + Pick 57
Trade 58
Pacific trade: Matthew Leuenberger + Michael Rischitelli
Pacific receive: Daniel Currie + Pick 80
Trade 64
Cape Town trade: Pick 77
Pacific trade: Rookie Pick 15
Trade 67
Pacific trade: Andy Otten + Pick 15
PNL trade: Pick 14 + Pick 51
Trade 75
Pacific trade: Pick 77 + Pick 80
Toronto trade: Pick 68
Pacific trade: Jordan Murdoch, Pick 14 + Pick 68
Pacific receive: Josh Jenkins
Trade 84
Toronto trade: Pick 68 + PSD Pick 13
Pacific trade: Pick 70, Pick 88, PSD Pick 15 + PSD Pick 33
Trade 96
Pacific trade: Pick 57
Rio de Janeiro trade: Pick 66 + Pick 67
2016
Trade 48
Pacific trade: Pick 13 + Pick 32
Buenos Aires trade: Andrew Swallow
Trade 68
Berlin trade: Jordan Murdoch + Nick Suban
Pacific trade: Pick 50
Trade 83
Christchurch trade: Rookie Pick 15
Pacific trade: Pick 68
Trade 87
Pacific trade: Pick 86 + PSD Pick 12
Dublin trade: Rookie Pick 16
Trade 98
Berlin trade: Kyle Cheney
Pacific trade: Joel Hamling + Rookie Pick 30
2015
Trade 3
Pacific trade: Jack Martin + Jeremy Howe
New Delhi trade: Andrew Gaff, Sam Darley + Pick 40
Trade 12
New Delhi trade: Viv Michie
Pacific trade: Tomas Bugg
Trade 15
Pacific trade: Jack Redden, Jarryd Blair + Pick 51
Tokyo trade: Steven Motlop, Matt Suckling, Pick 48 + Pick 66
Trade 57
Pacific trade: Dawson Simpson, Pick 13 + Pick 33
Cairo trade: Paul Ahern + Pick 21
Yep, you're certainly a trade master
Keep riding those coat-tails and taking credit for a side you've had absolutely nothing to do with!
Maybe they just draft well and don't feel the need to rip me off like every other team does. Pacific are one of the good guys.
You conveniently forgot the season before that, funny how that happens.
Quote from: upthemaidens on July 16, 2018, 08:00:31 PM
You conveniently forgot the season before that, funny how that happens.
Another A+ response.
I need to get some ointment for all these burns you've given me
I gave up Rockliff and Gilbert for Sandi and Gibbs, but you clowns blocked it because I was giving too much.
So I changed Gilbert to the "lesser" Sicily.
You passed it.
Absolute pricks.
COMPO
Quote from: upthemaidens on July 16, 2018, 07:19:02 PM
Andrew Gaff is for sale, we are looking for a weaker Mid who spends half the season in the VFL. Hopefully we can rebuild and finish 9th.
Be careful what you wish for, ‘cause you just might get it.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 16, 2018, 08:09:46 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on July 16, 2018, 08:00:31 PM
You conveniently forgot the season before that, funny how that happens.
Another A+ response.
I need to get some ointment for all these burns you've given me
A burn? You avoided to add facts that doesn't support your statement. Which you have done a number of times, patterns are emerging.
Also since you have done the leg work for me. Can anyone find not just a ridiculous trade, but a trade where we are winning?
At a glance it looks like we have been paying correct price or overs.
Quote from: upthemaidens on July 16, 2018, 08:44:45 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 16, 2018, 08:09:46 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on July 16, 2018, 08:00:31 PM
You conveniently forgot the season before that, funny how that happens.
Another A+ response.
I need to get some ointment for all these burns you've given me
A burn? You avoided to add facts that doesn't support your statement. Which you have done a number of times, patterns are emerging.
Also since you have done the leg work for me. Can anyone find not just a ridiculous trade, but a trade where we are winning?
At a glance it looks like we have been paying correct price or overs.
Generally your ridiculous trades don't make it to completion because they hit a roadblock at the negotiations stage. So RD tells me.
Quote from: upthemaidens on July 16, 2018, 08:44:45 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 16, 2018, 08:09:46 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on July 16, 2018, 08:00:31 PM
You conveniently forgot the season before that, funny how that happens.
Another A+ response.
I need to get some ointment for all these burns you've given me
A burn? You avoided to add facts that doesn't support your statement. Which you have done a number of times, patterns are emerging.
Also since you have done the leg work for me. Can anyone find not just a ridiculous trade, but a trade where we are winning?
At a glance it looks like we have been paying correct price or overs.
ZOMG you can't be this dense seriously?
I'm the one avoiding facts?
The fact is that Stanley was a scrub struggling to play 10 games a year and average 70. Tex was a 80+ forward. Your offer of Stanley for Tex at the time was ridiculous
The fact is that when we offered Tyson PLUS MORE for Gaff, Gaff was averaging 93 and Tyson 82, so the plus more and age gap makes it a more than reasonable offer
The fact is that there is 3 entire years worth of pointless trades that have ZERO influence on Pacific today - all the real work was done before you were around
The fact is that you keep posting every week about how great Pacific is, when you have absolutely nothing to do with them other than post the weekly side and do bad trades
And you can't seem to get this through your head, but I'll say it for the third time - there are no examples of ridiculous trades you win because nobody is dumb enough to accept your lowball offers, or meet your crazy expectations. I only wish I saved all your Fasolo requests - so many laughs were had
As for patterns, the only pattern emerging here is how many times you've been owned.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 16, 2018, 09:03:04 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on July 16, 2018, 08:44:45 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 16, 2018, 08:09:46 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on July 16, 2018, 08:00:31 PM
You conveniently forgot the season before that, funny how that happens.
Another A+ response.
I need to get some ointment for all these burns you've given me
A burn? You avoided to add facts that doesn't support your statement. Which you have done a number of times, patterns are emerging.
Also since you have done the leg work for me. Can anyone find not just a ridiculous trade, but a trade where we are winning?
At a glance it looks like we have been paying correct price or overs.
ZOMG you can't be this dense seriously?
I'm the one avoiding facts?
The fact is that Stanley was a scrub struggling to play 10 games a year and average 70. Tex was a 80+ forward. Your offer of Stanley for Tex at the time was ridiculous
The fact is that when we offered Tyson PLUS MORE for Gaff, Gaff was averaging 93 and Tyson 82, so the plus more and age gap makes it a more than reasonable offer
The fact is that there is 3 entire years worth of pointless trades that have ZERO influence on Pacific today - all the real work was done before you were around
The fact is that you keep posting every week about how great Pacific is, when you have absolutely nothing to do with them other than post the weekly side and do bad trades
And you can't seem to get this through your head, but I'll say it for the third time - there are no examples of ridiculous trades you win because nobody is dumb enough to accept your lowball offers, or meet your crazy expectations. I only wish I saved all your Fasolo requests - so many laughs were had
As for patterns, the only pattern emerging here is how many times you've been owned.
This is seriously like talking to a conspiracy theorist. Why are you not including the trades from the season before?
Can you give me just a handful of ridiculous offers?
Tex mid 80s (ummm 81 actually), Stanley 70 with no job security(umm 71 and injured) R/F DPP. 2 years younger.
Hindsight is showing Stanley to be the better option. Even with hindsight you're still blind.
Ummm excuse me RD, Fasolo is an 80+ avg forward if you take out his really bad games tyvm.
Or so I'm told.
Quote from: GoLions on July 16, 2018, 09:39:39 PM
Ummm excuse me RD, Fasolo is an 80+ avg forward if you take out his really bad games tyvm.
Or so I'm told.
He was a 76avg fwd 23yo. Fact.
IF we asked for an 80+ fwd in return(which doesn't seem likely) It would have been for an older player and I'm sure we would of been adding to Fasolo.
Once again leaving out important details does kind of affect the story. So what were you prepared to pay?
Quote from: upthemaidens on July 16, 2018, 09:47:03 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 16, 2018, 09:39:39 PM
Ummm excuse me RD, Fasolo is an 80+ avg forward if you take out his really bad games tyvm.
Or so I'm told.
He was a 76avg fwd 23yo. Fact.
IF we asked for an 80+ fwd in return(which doesn't seem likely) It would have been for an older player and I'm sure we would of been adding to Fasolo.
Once again leaving out important details does kind of affect the story. So what were you prepared to pay?
Then why would you tell me he was an 81avg fwd? Were you lying to me, 'upthemaidens', if that's even your real name?
Quote from: GoLions on July 16, 2018, 09:53:32 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on July 16, 2018, 09:47:03 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 16, 2018, 09:39:39 PM
Ummm excuse me RD, Fasolo is an 80+ avg forward if you take out his really bad games tyvm.
Or so I'm told.
He was a 76avg fwd 23yo. Fact.
IF we asked for an 80+ fwd in return(which doesn't seem likely) It would have been for an older player and I'm sure we would of been adding to Fasolo.
Once again leaving out important details does kind of affect the story. So what were you prepared to pay?
Then why would you tell me he was an 81avg fwd? Were you lying to me, 'upthemaidens', if that's even your real name?
Edwards + N23 for Fasolo :P
Quote from: GoLions on July 16, 2018, 09:53:32 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on July 16, 2018, 09:47:03 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 16, 2018, 09:39:39 PM
Ummm excuse me RD, Fasolo is an 80+ avg forward if you take out his really bad games tyvm.
Or so I'm told.
He was a 76avg fwd 23yo. Fact.
IF we asked for an 80+ fwd in return(which doesn't seem likely) It would have been for an older player and I'm sure we would of been adding to Fasolo.
Once again leaving out important details does kind of affect the story. So what were you prepared to pay?
Then why would you tell me he was an 81avg fwd? Were you lying to me, 'upthemaidens', if that's even your real name?
In 2015 remove his Subbed game, 79avg. Well if that avg. was wrong it's pretty easy to correct straight away.
Quote from: iZander on July 16, 2018, 09:55:51 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 16, 2018, 09:53:32 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on July 16, 2018, 09:47:03 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 16, 2018, 09:39:39 PM
Ummm excuse me RD, Fasolo is an 80+ avg forward if you take out his really bad games tyvm.
Or so I'm told.
He was a 76avg fwd 23yo. Fact.
IF we asked for an 80+ fwd in return(which doesn't seem likely) It would have been for an older player and I'm sure we would of been adding to Fasolo.
Once again leaving out important details does kind of affect the story. So what were you prepared to pay?
Then why would you tell me he was an 81avg fwd? Were you lying to me, 'upthemaidens', if that's even your real name?
Edwards + N23 for Fasolo :P
Out of interest, did you offer that and we said no? I doubt we offered Fasolo for Edwards+#23.
Quote from: upthemaidens on July 16, 2018, 11:05:37 PM
Quote from: iZander on July 16, 2018, 09:55:51 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 16, 2018, 09:53:32 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on July 16, 2018, 09:47:03 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 16, 2018, 09:39:39 PM
Ummm excuse me RD, Fasolo is an 80+ avg forward if you take out his really bad games tyvm.
Or so I'm told.
He was a 76avg fwd 23yo. Fact.
IF we asked for an 80+ fwd in return(which doesn't seem likely) It would have been for an older player and I'm sure we would of been adding to Fasolo.
Once again leaving out important details does kind of affect the story. So what were you prepared to pay?
Then why would you tell me he was an 81avg fwd? Were you lying to me, 'upthemaidens', if that's even your real name?
Edwards + N23 for Fasolo :P
Out of interest, did you offer that and we said no? I doubt we offered Fasolo for Edwards+#23.
you offered that and i said i wouldnt trade either one of them by themselves for fasolo :)
Quote from: iZander on July 16, 2018, 11:13:10 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on July 16, 2018, 11:05:37 PM
Quote from: iZander on July 16, 2018, 09:55:51 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 16, 2018, 09:53:32 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on July 16, 2018, 09:47:03 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 16, 2018, 09:39:39 PM
Ummm excuse me RD, Fasolo is an 80+ avg forward if you take out his really bad games tyvm.
Or so I'm told.
He was a 76avg fwd 23yo. Fact.
IF we asked for an 80+ fwd in return(which doesn't seem likely) It would have been for an older player and I'm sure we would of been adding to Fasolo.
Once again leaving out important details does kind of affect the story. So what were you prepared to pay?
Then why would you tell me he was an 81avg fwd? Were you lying to me, 'upthemaidens', if that's even your real name?
Edwards + N23 for Fasolo :P
Out of interest, did you offer that and we said no? I doubt we offered Fasolo for Edwards+#23.
you offered that and i said i wouldnt trade either one of them by themselves for fasolo :)
Well congrats on dodging that one. I'm wondering if anyone will post what we paid for Fasolo.
Also you guys are talking like his career is over. He's 26yo, had some injuries and depression.
Mental illness is a real thing, sorry I couldn't predict it when selling him. As last post, let's see what we paid for him the previous season.
(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/Collingwood/Player%20Profiles/temp/COX%20Mason.png) measuring contest continues
Don’t bring Big Telescopic in to this please.
Actually, do it and give meow the compo he deserves
Quote from: upthemaidens on July 16, 2018, 09:47:03 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 16, 2018, 09:39:39 PM
Ummm excuse me RD, Fasolo is an 80+ avg forward if you take out his really bad games tyvm.
Or so I'm told.
He was a 76avg fwd 23yo. Fact.
IF we asked for an 80+ fwd in return(which doesn't seem likely) It would have been for an older player and I'm sure we would of been adding to Fasolo.
Once again leaving out important details does kind of affect the story. So what were you prepared to pay?
Fact: Bears eat beets.
Fact:
Would've.
Would have.
Not would of.
Not would'f.
It's far too quiet in here
Pacific are pie
New York have no idea
GL is the worst coach in the league
Quote from: Ricochet on July 17, 2018, 06:11:32 PM
It's far too quiet in here
Pacific are pie
New York have no idea
GL is the worst coach in the league
Yeah look, hard to deny any of this. Fair hit, play on.
Quote from: Nige on July 17, 2018, 06:13:01 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 17, 2018, 06:11:32 PM
It's far too quiet in here
Pacific are pie
New York have no idea
GL is the worst coach in the league
Yeah look, hard to deny any of this. Fair hit, play on.
Yeah nah yeahh nahh yeahhh
Funny coincidence it's Pacific vs New York this week
No Ryder for us so it's back to OOP ruck and HGA against
UTM would be loving that
Quote from: Ricochet on July 17, 2018, 06:11:32 PM
It's far too quiet in here
Pacific are pie
New York have no idea
GL is the worst coach in the league
Don't forget meows compo!
Quote from: meow meow on July 17, 2018, 06:59:15 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 17, 2018, 06:11:32 PM
Pacific are pie
Piecific
Islanders are good but they havent earnt that title.
Pieo Jaguars
Mexico City Pies
Sau Pielo Pumas
Pacific trade: Jamie Elliot + NAT #27 (on trade for Clay Smith RIP)
Christchurch trade: Devon Smith
cows
Compo
Rio de Janeiro trade: Pick 84
Christchurch trade: Jed Anderson + Pick 80
OMG. Absolute disgrace.
New York trade: Tom $cully + Jake Stringer
Christchurch trade: Bryce Gibbs, Pick 26 + Pick 32
Sold me a dud who hasn't played all year and an overhyped dud, while taking the heart and soul of our club hostage so they can extort me later. Absolute disgrace.
Cairo trade: Rupert Wills
Christchurch trade: Daniel McKenzie + Pick 44
McKenzie alone is 20x better than Rupert Wills, if he even exists. But of course I have to add a pick on top. Absolute disgrace.
Buenos Aires trade: Pick 19 + Pick 20
Christchurch trade: Pick 21, Pick 23 + Pick 25
Buenos Aires trade: Pick 19, Pick 20 + Rookie Pick 1
Christchurch trade: Pick 21, Pick 23 + Pick 25
First trade gets rejected, second one passes all because of one of the most useless picks ever. Absolute disgrace.
Christchurch trade: Will Hoskin-Elliott
Tokyo trade: Jack Redden
Well flower me, a fair trade. Boomz may not be around much but at least he doesn't have time to be a criminal like the rest of you.
Christchurch trade: Jake Lever
Berlin trade: Tom Liberatore
The dictator sold me a dud who immediately did his ACL. Not only that but he's older, and averaged the same even though he's a mere middle of the pack mid while Lever was pushing premo defender status. Absolute disgrace.
Seoul trade: Tom Langdon
Christchurch trade: Pick 8 + Pick 18
Yeah, Tom Langdon is worth two first round picks. Righto. Absolute disgrace.
Christchurch trade: Chris Masten
Buenos Aires trade: Michael Rischitelli
Their averages are about 30ppg apart, and guess who gave up the better, younger one? Regulation disgrace.
Christchurch trade: Shaun Higgins + Pick 49
New York trade: Heath Shaw + Lewis Young
Higgo is pretty much the best player around these days, while Naughton has taken Young's spot so he'll never be back. Shaw has been okay but not on HigGOAT's level. Not even a disgrace really.
New Delhi trade: Marc Murphy
Christchurch trade: Jack Redden + Pick 26
One guy missed half the season injured, averages less, is older. Have a guess which one? Of course I have to throw in the 2nd round pick on top of that too. Absolute disgrace.
Rio de Janeiro trade: Jackson Ramsay
Christchurch trade: Pick 48
Gets delisted immediately. Nice.
That's just last year!!! It looks like a successful year in comparison to the earlier year though.
Conclusion: COMPO.
Quote from: meow meow on July 17, 2018, 07:08:51 PM
Pacific trade: Jamie Elliot + NAT #27 (on trade for Clay Smith RIP)
Christchurch trade: Devon Smith
cows
Compo
And lets not forget that Elliott was on-traded for some shower that ended up becoming Jobe Watson, who then got suspended. Only reason I had Jobe was because the original on-trade involved McKernan and Stefan got blocked by you cretins. Ask Levi if he'd rather keep pick 12 and play an OOP ruck over a 78 average ruckman. I should have Stefan Martin, not flower all. Absolute disgrace.
Devon Smith to Elliott and change
Elliott and some picks and change for pick 2
McKernan for pick 12
2 and 12 for Stefan
Stefan at Christchurch for 3 seasons, including the current 108 average season.
Stef will play on next year, probably average over 100 too. That'll make it four 100+ seasons that I am owed in compensation. From next year onwards I am going to name Compo at D4 and that's an auto 100 that we're scoring that week, for the next four seasons. I'll take that and an apology from you all as compensation and we'll move on.
Can't believe you left out the one we're you gave us Langford and Steele and we gave you Gibbs
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 17, 2018, 08:07:15 PM
Can't believe you left out the one we're you gave us Langford and Steele and we gave you Gibbs lol
There's 100's more. I don't have 17 hours to list ALL the atrocities.
Compo on the table. Laird is the only other Defender that is likely to average over 100 for the next 4 seasons so it's pretty valuable. Get your offers in now.
Looks like you should just trade with me then tbh meow
Quote from: GoLions on July 17, 2018, 08:24:35 PM
Looks like you should just trade with me then tbh meow
You weren't a coach when the McKernan injustice went down so I can't blame you. Plus you make me purr like a walrus.
Just to recap. Langdon and his 74 average are worth picks 8 and 18 but McKernan and his 78 average in the ruck of all positions isn't worth pick 12. Ha!. Compo and his 100 average for the next 4 years isn't quite what I have missed out on but it'll do.
McKernan for Pick 12 was negged. Ok that may be considered "fair" depending who you ask.
So what was the renegotiated trade?
McKernan for pick 56.
Quote from: meow meow on July 17, 2018, 07:44:15 PM
Conclusion: COMPO.
The Taylor Adams/N5 injustice cancels out anything to do with NDT sorry meow
Quote from: Ricochet on July 18, 2018, 01:08:12 AM
The Taylor Adams/N5 injustice cancels out anything to do with NDT sorry meow
To be fair it was blocked by these fools because he wasn't worth that much apparently. Which means that I would have had to settle for less if he was going to get to NDT and there's no way I'd take less than that for him. Blame the corrupt system for negging it in the first place, just as they robbed us in the Stefan for 2 and 12 debacle.
Quote from: meow meow on July 18, 2018, 08:30:10 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 18, 2018, 01:08:12 AM
The Taylor Adams/N5 injustice cancels out anything to do with NDT sorry meow
To be fair it was blocked by these fools because he wasn't worth that much apparently. Which means that I would have had to settle for less if he was going to get to NDT and there's no way I'd take less than that for him. Blame the corrupt system for negging it in the first place, just as they robbed us in the Stefan for 2 and 12 debacle.
;D
Dillos
Part of future: Bonner, Coffield, Scrimshaw, Doedee, Berry, Dow, ABrayshaw, Cerra, JAtley, Parish, Simpkin, Florent, Hayward, Rayner, Bonar, ?Sproule, ROB, Draper, Nicholls
Happy to keep but also happy to trade: Bennell, Elliot, SAtley, Webster, Macmillan, Dumont
Guys breaching our 26 year age ideal requirement: ECurnow, Hooker, Shane Edwards, Masten, Armitage
If i havnt listed them they probably are readily available for nothing cause i obviously dont care enough to remember then :P
Anyone can be traded but probably dont go asking for Rayner, Cerra or Parish. Im looking to trade in a captain option (arent we all) and willing to package up a good offer. Also looking for a ruck as usual.
Our age range is prefered at <26 but bit more flexable this year given i think we can compete next year if we make the right changes.
Always keen for trade discussions even in these early stages
Accepting legitimate offers for Andrew McGrath.
Gotta add him to the list that includes: Blakely, Curnow, Ahern, Johannisen, Henry, Ronke, Dunstan and Mathieson
And they're just the ones I remember.
Quote from: Nige on July 27, 2018, 09:46:18 PM
Accepting legitimate offers for Andrew McGrath.
Legitimate offers makes it sound like it's a big deal
He's a 69avg player
He's no Dan Houston ;)
Quote from: Nige on July 27, 2018, 09:46:18 PM
Accepting legitimate offers for Andrew McGrath.
Ill give a top 5 pick :P
1 Christchurch Saints (Compensation)
2 Cape Town Cobras
3 London Royals
4 Mexico City Suns
5 PNL Reindeers
6 Buenos Aires Armadillos Christchurch Saints
7 Rio de Janeiro Jaguars
8 Moscow Spetsnaz
9 Cairo Sands
10 Tokyo Samurai
11 New York Revolution
12 Berlin Brewers
13 Christchurch Saints
14 New Delhi Tigers
15 Dublin Destroyers
16 Seoul Magpies
17 Pacific Islanders
18 Beijing Thunder
19 Toronto Wolves
20 Cape Town Cobras (Priority)
21 Cape Town Cobras
22 London Royals
23 Mexico City Suns
24 PNL Reindeers
25 Buenos Aires Armadillos
26 Rio de Janeiro Jaguars
27 Moscow Spetsnaz
28 Cairo Sands
29 Tokyo Samurai
30 New York Revolution
31 Berlin Brewers
32 Christchurch Saints
33 New Delhi Tigers
34 Dublin Destroyers
35 Seoul Magpies
36 Pacific Islanders
37 Beijing Thunder
38 Toronto Wolves
Big news
Looking to trade either Jimmy Webster or Tom Doedee for a mid, can add to either of them for the right mid with other players/picks
Jimmy just turned 25, was averaging 104 before his groin injury :(
Tom Doedee, 21yo, 85 average in his first year
Abbott on the table for a premium forward.
Quote from: meow meow on August 03, 2018, 10:34:56 PM
Abbott on the table for a premium forward.
Try to get sam reid. A 104 average forward.
Quote from: Holz on August 04, 2018, 12:22:32 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 03, 2018, 10:34:56 PM
Abbott on the table for a premium forward.
Try to get sam reid. A 104 average forward.
Thank you Holz
Good to see you're valuing him correctly
The numbers don't lie folks!
Getting a lot of interest for Dunstan + Pick 10
Didn't plan on trading them, but with several good offers I'd say they're on the move, so get your offers in quick
Looking for a starting mid, but will consider def/fwd if we like it
Probably will be trading at least one of our starting defenders at this point, likely Shane Savage.
Keen to get a forward in return.
Parker Curnow, Ablett, Gibbs, Murphy, McLean, Scully, Libba
That's 7 mids
Stringer.... Daicos?
We need forwards. Help
McLean the most available since I despise youth.
Looking at our team our defence looks pretty set. After mids and fwd, as well as picks. Most players movable
Fwds you all say?
Gray, Menegola, JMartin, Darling, Dahlhaus, Langdon, Ziebell, Newnes, plus kids
Come at me
Quote from: Ricochet on August 08, 2018, 12:34:43 AM
Fwds you all say?
Gray, Menegola, JMartin, Darling, Dahlhaus, Langdon, Ziebell, Newnes, plus kids
Come at me
Don't think Ed keeps forward status Rico. Trade him to me.
Quote from: Adamant on August 08, 2018, 12:49:02 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 08, 2018, 12:34:43 AM
Fwds you all say?
Gray, Menegola, JMartin, Darling, Dahlhaus, Langdon, Ziebell, Newnes, plus kids
Come at me
Don't think Ed keeps forward status Rico. Trade him to me.
No, trade him to me.
Defense Position Value Analysis
So as we know there are 18 teams and 4 spots in defense and forward. With injuries and players missing im going to assume that 10% of the best players are out each week.
Defenders
D1: 88-109
D2: 82-88
D3: 74-82
D4: 70-74
D5 67-70
Week 1 of Finals these players where fielded who average less then 75 so are D4 at best and some not even D5 quality.
Ryan Clarke 68 - Toronto Wolves
Caleb Marchbank 67 - Seoul Magpies
Nick Haynes 73 -Seoul Magpies
Brandon Ellis 70 - Beijing Thunder
Jackson Thurlow 54 - Beijing Thunder
Ciaran Byrne 52 - Beijing Thunder
Liam Duggan 70 - Pacific Islanders
Oscar McDonald 53 - Dublin Destroyers
Sam Frost 60 - Berlin Brewers
Sam Murray 71 - New Delhi Tigers
Harry Morrison 62 - New Delhi Tigers
Ok
Roberton 79 avg = D3
Savage 88 avg = D1
McGovern 91 avg = D1
Vlastuin 81 avg = D3
Stewart 91 avg = D1
McGrath 68 avg = D5
We'd like a D2 and D4 please.
Quote from: Nige on August 08, 2018, 11:37:23 AM
Roberton 79 avg = D3
Savage 88 avg = D1
McGovern 91 avg = D1
Vlastuin 81 avg = D3
Stewart 91 avg = D1
McGrath 68 avg = D5
We'd like a D2 and D4 please.
Cairo such a great defence.
D1 D1 D1 D3 - D3 D5
some of the top teams should really pick up a few of them.
Quote from: Holz on August 08, 2018, 10:29:18 AM
Ryan Clarke 68 - Toronto Wolves
Caleb Marchbank 67 - Seoul Magpies
Nick Haynes 73 -Seoul Magpies
Brandon Ellis 70 - Beijing Thunder
Jackson Thurlow 54 - Beijing Thunder
Ciaran Byrne 52 - Beijing Thunder
Liam Duggan 70 - Pacific Islanders
Oscar McDonald 53 - Dublin Destroyers
Sam Frost 60 - Berlin Brewers
Sam Murray 71 - New Delhi Tigers
Harry Morrison 62 - New Delhi Tigers
No Houli, Howe, HH... that's why these boys played. (and did a decent job I might add with 83 and 74)
I'm sure the other teams had to play those boys because of more than just 10% of regular injuries/omissions too
D1: 88-109 - Lloyd, Howe
D2: 82-88
D3: 74-82 Hartlett, Rich
D4: 70-74 Houli ::) , Murray
D5 67-70
Quote from: Ricochet on August 08, 2018, 11:52:36 AM
Quote from: Holz on August 08, 2018, 10:29:18 AM
Ryan Clarke 68 - Toronto Wolves
Caleb Marchbank 67 - Seoul Magpies
Nick Haynes 73 -Seoul Magpies
Brandon Ellis 70 - Beijing Thunder
Jackson Thurlow 54 - Beijing Thunder
Ciaran Byrne 52 - Beijing Thunder
Liam Duggan 70 - Pacific Islanders
Oscar McDonald 53 - Dublin Destroyers
Sam Frost 60 - Berlin Brewers
Sam Murray 71 - New Delhi Tigers
Harry Morrison 62 - New Delhi Tigers
No Houli, Howe, HH... that's why these boys played. (and did a decent job I might add with 83 and 74)
I'm sure the other teams had to play those boys because of more than just 10% of regular injuries/omissions too
D1: 88-109 - Lloyd, Howe
D2: 82-88
D3: 74-82 Hartlett, Rich
D4: 70-74 Houli ::) , Murray
D5 67-70
could use abit more depth id say.
I was missing May Daw Hill Henry thats why Omac played
Quote from: Holz on August 08, 2018, 11:56:47 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 08, 2018, 11:52:36 AM
Quote from: Holz on August 08, 2018, 10:29:18 AM
Ryan Clarke 68 - Toronto Wolves
Caleb Marchbank 67 - Seoul Magpies
Nick Haynes 73 -Seoul Magpies
Brandon Ellis 70 - Beijing Thunder
Jackson Thurlow 54 - Beijing Thunder
Ciaran Byrne 52 - Beijing Thunder
Liam Duggan 70 - Pacific Islanders
Oscar McDonald 53 - Dublin Destroyers
Sam Frost 60 - Berlin Brewers
Sam Murray 71 - New Delhi Tigers
Harry Morrison 62 - New Delhi Tigers
No Houli, Howe, HH... that's why these boys played. (and did a decent job I might add with 83 and 74)
I'm sure the other teams had to play those boys because of more than just 10% of regular injuries/omissions too
D1: 88-109 - Lloyd, Howe
D2: 82-88
D3: 74-82 Hartlett, Rich
D4: 70-74 Houli ::) , Murray
D5 67-70
could use abit more depth id say.
I was missing May Daw Hill Henry thats why Omac played
Why didn't you play the latter 3 in defence?
Quote from: GoLions on August 08, 2018, 12:05:48 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 08, 2018, 11:56:47 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 08, 2018, 11:52:36 AM
Quote from: Holz on August 08, 2018, 10:29:18 AM
Ryan Clarke 68 - Toronto Wolves
Caleb Marchbank 67 - Seoul Magpies
Nick Haynes 73 -Seoul Magpies
Brandon Ellis 70 - Beijing Thunder
Jackson Thurlow 54 - Beijing Thunder
Ciaran Byrne 52 - Beijing Thunder
Liam Duggan 70 - Pacific Islanders
Oscar McDonald 53 - Dublin Destroyers
Sam Frost 60 - Berlin Brewers
Sam Murray 71 - New Delhi Tigers
Harry Morrison 62 - New Delhi Tigers
No Houli, Howe, HH... that's why these boys played. (and did a decent job I might add with 83 and 74)
I'm sure the other teams had to play those boys because of more than just 10% of regular injuries/omissions too
D1: 88-109 - Lloyd, Howe
D2: 82-88
D3: 74-82 Hartlett, Rich
D4: 70-74 Houli ::) , Murray
D5 67-70
could use abit more depth id say.
I was missing May Daw Hill Henry thats why Omac played
Why didn't you play the latter 3 in defence?
because they arent listed as defenders this year. this is the trade confab thread so its talking about next year.
Quote from: Holz on August 08, 2018, 12:06:49 PM
Quote from: GoLions on August 08, 2018, 12:05:48 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 08, 2018, 11:56:47 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 08, 2018, 11:52:36 AM
Quote from: Holz on August 08, 2018, 10:29:18 AM
Ryan Clarke 68 - Toronto Wolves
Caleb Marchbank 67 - Seoul Magpies
Nick Haynes 73 -Seoul Magpies
Brandon Ellis 70 - Beijing Thunder
Jackson Thurlow 54 - Beijing Thunder
Ciaran Byrne 52 - Beijing Thunder
Liam Duggan 70 - Pacific Islanders
Oscar McDonald 53 - Dublin Destroyers
Sam Frost 60 - Berlin Brewers
Sam Murray 71 - New Delhi Tigers
Harry Morrison 62 - New Delhi Tigers
No Houli, Howe, HH... that's why these boys played. (and did a decent job I might add with 83 and 74)
I'm sure the other teams had to play those boys because of more than just 10% of regular injuries/omissions too
D1: 88-109 - Lloyd, Howe
D2: 82-88
D3: 74-82 Hartlett, Rich
D4: 70-74 Houli ::) , Murray
D5 67-70
could use abit more depth id say.
I was missing May Daw Hill Henry thats why Omac played
Why didn't you play the latter 3 in defence?
because they arent listed as defenders this year. this is the trade confab thread so its talking about next year.
So you weren't missing any this year?
Holz advocating for increased depth? ;D
We got fwds for sale, hit us up if you see anything you like ;)
And yeah like NDT (with the exception of B.Ellis) we only played those guys due to injuries/suspensions down back. Bit of a flawed stat unless they're getting games every week.
Quote from: Ricochet on August 08, 2018, 12:11:43 PM
Holz advocating for increased depth? ;D
I always advocate high quality depth. so 75+ defenders and forwards
I had half my best XV out for a few months and i was a few points away from the top 4.
had my M5, D3, D4 missing last week no issue
got my M5, D4, F3, M6 missing this week no issue.
You got have a good player on every line or you will get caught out at some point. I have always said you need a really good list of 20, no reason to have 30 or so guys unless you want to win reserves.
How good have guys like Jroo, Davis, Hawkins, Daw, Holman, Henry been for Dublin. I got 4 of them playing this week and all 6 have played significant games for Dublin this year.
Dublin Depth
(https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/migration_catalog/article18330016.ece/alternates/WIDE_660/bl19_ndnbu_Navy+G2NO26RB.6.jpg.jpg)
Quote from: Toga on August 08, 2018, 12:14:50 PM
We got fwds for sale, hit us up if you see anything you like ;)
And yeah like NDT (with the exception of B.Ellis) we only played those guys due to injuries/suspensions down back. Bit of a flawed stat unless they're getting games every week.
there are only 60 74+ defenders though for the year so its pretty much impossible that every top 8 team has 5 (which is what you need to avoid playing a sub 74 guy half the time) of them unless the bottom 10 clubs only have 2 for each team which we know is not true
90.1 Heath Shaw
90 Jarrad McVeigh
87.6 Harris Andrews
82.2 Logan Austin
79.9 Nathan Wilson
78 Tom Langdon
73.3 Conor McKenna
65.5 Lewis Young
59.6 Ed Richards
38.2 Cedric Cox
Need a forward
Quote from: Holz on August 08, 2018, 11:42:33 AM
Quote from: Nige on August 08, 2018, 11:37:23 AM
Roberton 79 avg = D3
Savage 88 avg = D1
McGovern 91 avg = D1
Vlastuin 81 avg = D3
Stewart 91 avg = D1
McGrath 68 avg = D5
We'd like a D2 and D4 please.
Cairo such a great defence.
D1 D1 D1 D3 - D3 D5
some of the top teams should really pick up a few of them.
Build it and they will come. 8)
Also I guess with trade talks ramping up and stuff, may as well drop a friendly reminder that Discord is a great place for trade talks.
I know a good chunk of coaches are already on it and used it last offseason, so why not do it again?
My shopping list...
35 YEARS OLD
Shaun Burgoyne, Aaron Sandilands, Dale Morris, Jarrad Waite
34 YEARS OLD
Kade Simpson, Gary Ablett, Luke Hodge
33 YEARS OLD
Michael Johnson, Daniel Wells, Jarrad McVeigh, Brendon Goddard, David Mundy
32 YEARS OLD
Bernie Vince, Heath Shaw, Michael Rischitelli, Danyle Pearce, Jordan Lewis, Scott Thompson, Sam Gibson, Heath Grundy, Harry Taylor, Ryan Griffen, Liam Picken
31 YEARS OLD
Sam Gilbert, Mark LeCras, Justin Westhoff, Stefan Martin, Matt Rosa, Eddie Betts, Jarryd Roughead, Lance Franklin, Richard Douglas, Cameron Pedersen, Brett Deledio, Kurt Tippett, Lynden Dunn, Mark Baguley, Tyson Goldsack, Dale Thomas, Kieren Jack, Hayden Ballantyne, Marc Murphy, Lee Spurr
30 YEARS OLD
Josh J. Kennedy, Shannon Hurn, Tory Dickson, Alex Silvagni, Sam Rowe, Paul Puopolo, Michael Barlow, Scott Pendlebury, Nathan Jones, Grant Birchall, Lindsay Thomas, Shaun Higgins, Patrick Ryder, Shaun Hampson, Robbie Gray, Sam Jacobs, Travis Varcoe, Shaun Grigg, Bachar Houli, Eric Mackenzie, Joel Selwood, Matthew Leuenberger, Nick Smith, David Armitage, Josh P. Kennedy, Jarryn Geary, Todd Goldstein, Jarrod Harbrow, Tom Hawkins, David Mackay, Matthew Suckling, Travis Boak
21 YEARS OLD
Charlie Curnow
I can certainly package up a few of them for you
Near impossible to ever meet the highs of the famous J Pack, but I'm sure we could work something out
Toby McLean for Medium Charlie?
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 09, 2018, 03:13:49 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 09, 2018, 02:20:48 PM
Toby McLean for Medium Charlie?
Could be a chance
Meows trading formula
McLean 96 average
-8 for Mid only
-2 for 1 year older
= 86 year old forward
Curnow only a 82, so thats a -4 on the trade
Quote from: Holz on August 09, 2018, 03:26:54 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 09, 2018, 03:13:49 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 09, 2018, 02:20:48 PM
Toby McLean for Medium Charlie?
Could be a chance
Meows trading formula
McLean 96 average
-8 for Mid only
-2 for 1 year older
= 86 year old forward
Curnow only a 82, so thats a -4 on the trade
Season isn't over yet Charlie is about to score 600 points over the next 3 weeks
Alright all, here's what we have on the table for the time being
Free to a good home (late pick):
Dion Johnstone, Declan Keilty, Joel Garner, Ben Paton, Gryan Miers, Hugh Dixon, Gordon Narrier, Mabior Chol, Jake Brown
Players we are willing to trade:
Luke Dunstan, Robbie Tarrant, Lachie Henderson, Eddie Betts, Ben Reid, Jamaine Jones, Richie Douglas, Cam Ellis-Yolmen, Jake Long, Harry Marsh, Sam Gilbert, Lachlan Keeffe, Matt Eagles, Zac Langdon, Lachlan Murphy, Alex Sexton
The rest of our team we intend on keeping, but if you have a really good offer for anyone please feel free to let us know :)
Tom Langdon available for picks 8 and 18. Could be the difference between winning and fielding Marchbank at D4.
Ablett scored 158 this week. Still got the enormous games in him.
I've got 7 starting quality mids so I could package Ablett with another mid for one player for those folks looking to add numbers. I've also got 6-7 starting quality defenders so could package one of them instead if you're interested.
Or maybe a Scully + Wilson for X type deal.
Plenty of options, not just limited to spud depth either.
We'd be open to trading JJK or Rough too
Ideally in a package, Eg Dunstan + JJK/Rough for a mid etc
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 13, 2018, 07:13:45 PM
Looking like our Defence will be stacked next year. If you want a starting Defender, Matt Suckling is on the table.
Wanting a starting Mid or Fwd in return, can be packaged up if needed.
At this early stage we'll consider offers for any players, but don't need depth. May take picks for some guys, since our Salary Cap is high.
Ill take laird
Got gun forwards to give.
That will solve your problem
Quote from: Holz on August 13, 2018, 08:04:04 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 13, 2018, 07:13:45 PM
Looking like our Defence will be stacked next year. If you want a starting Defender, Matt Suckling is on the table.
Wanting a starting Mid or Fwd in return, can be packaged up if needed.
At this early stage we'll consider offers for any players, but don't need depth. May take picks for some guys, since our Salary Cap is high.
Ill take laird
Got gun forwards to give.
That will solve your problem
I'm sure you will.
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 13, 2018, 07:13:45 PM
Looking like our Defence will be stacked next year. If you want a starting Defender, Matt Suckling is on the table.
Wanting a starting Mid or Fwd in return, can be packaged up if needed.
At this early stage we'll consider offers for any players, but don't need depth. May take picks for some guys, since our Salary Cap is high.
Can I ask what your stacked defence looks like?
Quote from: Nige on August 13, 2018, 09:03:40 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 13, 2018, 07:13:45 PM
Looking like our Defence will be stacked next year. If you want a starting Defender, Matt Suckling is on the table.
Wanting a starting Mid or Fwd in return, can be packaged up if needed.
At this early stage we'll consider offers for any players, but don't need depth. May take picks for some guys, since our Salary Cap is high.
Can I ask what your stacked defence looks like?
Yes you can.
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 13, 2018, 09:07:40 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 13, 2018, 09:03:40 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 13, 2018, 07:13:45 PM
Looking like our Defence will be stacked next year. If you want a starting Defender, Matt Suckling is on the table.
Wanting a starting Mid or Fwd in return, can be packaged up if needed.
At this early stage we'll consider offers for any players, but don't need depth. May take picks for some guys, since our Salary Cap is high.
Can I ask what your stacked defence looks like?
Yes you can.
What does your stacked defence look like?
Not sure Suckling is a starting defender, bit of a stretch, but D4/D5 I guess so maybe
You're not going to value him off his 91 from a measly 11 games this year, and ignore the 4 years prior of averaging mid 70's are you?
Considering age, past several years performance etc, we'll offer you Eddie Betts
Handy depth, just like Suckling. I'm not expecting you to agree, even though it's a serious offer, but Betts or similar is the type you would get for Suckers, not the starting mid or fwd you're wanting
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 13, 2018, 09:11:58 PM
How is Suckling a starting defender?
You're not going to value him off his 91 from a measly 11 games this year, and ignore the 4 years prior of averaging mid 70's are you?
Considering age, past several years performance etc, we'll offer you Eddie Betts
Handy depth, just like Suckling
Well princess you don't have to make an offer.
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 13, 2018, 09:21:20 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 13, 2018, 09:11:58 PM
How is Suckling a starting defender?
You're not going to value him off his 91 from a measly 11 games this year, and ignore the 4 years prior of averaging mid 70's are you?
Considering age, past several years performance etc, we'll offer you Eddie Betts
Handy depth, just like Suckling
Well princess you don't have to make an offer.
I edited my post to add a bit more at the same time you quoted
No malice intended in that one, princess
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 13, 2018, 09:22:58 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 13, 2018, 09:21:20 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 13, 2018, 09:11:58 PM
How is Suckling a starting defender?
You're not going to value him off his 91 from a measly 11 games this year, and ignore the 4 years prior of averaging mid 70's are you?
Considering age, past several years performance etc, we'll offer you Eddie Betts
Handy depth, just like Suckling
Well princess you don't have to make an offer.
I edited my post to add a bit more at the same time you quoted
No malice intended in that one, princess
We are the highest scoring club and he was our D3, that's a starting player.
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 13, 2018, 09:30:03 PM
We are the highest scoring club and he was our D3, that's a starting player.
I'm not up for Round 2 tonight, cbf, so I'll just stay clear on this one, but you being the highest scoring club and him being your D3 has absolutely nothing to do with his value
He's a 30 year old defender with 4 years of 70's. That's all that matters
Good luck getting that starting mid or forward for him :)
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 13, 2018, 09:33:59 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 13, 2018, 09:30:03 PM
We are the highest scoring club and he was our D3, that's a starting player.
I'm not up for Round 2 tonight, cbf, so I'll just stay clear on this one, but you being the highest scoring club and him being your D3 has absolutely nothing to do with his value
He's a 30 year old defender with 4 years of 70's. That's all that matters
Good luck getting that starting mid or forward for him :)
Princess you say something every time, worry about your own team. Coaches in a flag window, aren't going to listen to your opinion.
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 13, 2018, 09:37:36 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 13, 2018, 09:33:59 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 13, 2018, 09:30:03 PM
We are the highest scoring club and he was our D3, that's a starting player.
I'm not up for Round 2 tonight, cbf, so I'll just stay clear on this one, but you being the highest scoring club and him being your D3 has absolutely nothing to do with his value
He's a 30 year old defender with 4 years of 70's. That's all that matters
Good luck getting that starting mid or forward for him :)
Princess you say something every time, worry about your own team. Coaches in a flag window, aren't going to listen to your opinion.
They also don't listen to cows either
Quote from: GoLions on August 13, 2018, 09:46:01 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 13, 2018, 09:37:36 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 13, 2018, 09:33:59 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 13, 2018, 09:30:03 PM
We are the highest scoring club and he was our D3, that's a starting player.
I'm not up for Round 2 tonight, cbf, so I'll just stay clear on this one, but you being the highest scoring club and him being your D3 has absolutely nothing to do with his value
He's a 30 year old defender with 4 years of 70's. That's all that matters
Good luck getting that starting mid or forward for him :)
Princess you say something every time, worry about your own team. Coaches in a flag window, aren't going to listen to your opinion.
They also don't listen to cows either
Oh here we go. Yeah that's a good come back man, well done. Cows yeah I get it, big teats, four stomachs, go moooo.
Quote from: GoLions on August 13, 2018, 09:46:01 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 13, 2018, 09:37:36 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 13, 2018, 09:33:59 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 13, 2018, 09:30:03 PM
We are the highest scoring club and he was our D3, that's a starting player.
I'm not up for Round 2 tonight, cbf, so I'll just stay clear on this one, but you being the highest scoring club and him being your D3 has absolutely nothing to do with his value
He's a 30 year old defender with 4 years of 70's. That's all that matters
Good luck getting that starting mid or forward for him :)
Princess you say something every time, worry about your own team. Coaches in a flag window, aren't going to listen to your opinion.
They also don't listen to cows either
Haha bang!
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 13, 2018, 09:49:43 PM
Quote from: GoLions on August 13, 2018, 09:46:01 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 13, 2018, 09:37:36 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 13, 2018, 09:33:59 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 13, 2018, 09:30:03 PM
We are the highest scoring club and he was our D3, that's a starting player.
I'm not up for Round 2 tonight, cbf, so I'll just stay clear on this one, but you being the highest scoring club and him being your D3 has absolutely nothing to do with his value
He's a 30 year old defender with 4 years of 70's. That's all that matters
Good luck getting that starting mid or forward for him :)
Princess you say something every time, worry about your own team. Coaches in a flag window, aren't going to listen to your opinion.
They also don't listen to cows either
Oh here we go. Yeah that's a good come back man, well done. Cows yeah I get it, big teats, four stomachs, go moooo.
Cows is the forum auto correcting C*NT, you bollard
Princess? LOL you're smack talk is embarrassing
And I'd bet most coaches do value my opinion because I actually contribute and try to help and support this league, where as you're nothing but a selfish parasite who brings absolutely nothing to this comp. Just a few days ago Levi called you out on it, and instead of helping out you're response was to do exactly what he said you were and wait for the votes to be sent, like the selfish POS you are
And stop carrying on like you've done anything - we've been through this before and you can't fight the facts - All you are is the Pacific minion responsible for naming the team.
You're not even a real coach
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 13, 2018, 10:05:09 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 13, 2018, 09:49:43 PM
Quote from: GoLions on August 13, 2018, 09:46:01 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 13, 2018, 09:37:36 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 13, 2018, 09:33:59 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 13, 2018, 09:30:03 PM
We are the highest scoring club and he was our D3, that's a starting player.
I'm not up for Round 2 tonight, cbf, so I'll just stay clear on this one, but you being the highest scoring club and him being your D3 has absolutely nothing to do with his value
He's a 30 year old defender with 4 years of 70's. That's all that matters
Good luck getting that starting mid or forward for him :)
Princess you say something every time, worry about your own team. Coaches in a flag window, aren't going to listen to your opinion.
They also don't listen to cows either
Oh here we go. Yeah that's a good come back man, well done. Cows yeah I get it, big teats, four stomachs, go moooo.
Cows is the forum auto correcting C*NT, you bollard
Princess? LOL you're smack talk is embarrassing
And I'd bet most coaches do value my opinion because I actually contribute and try to help and support this league, where as you're nothing but a selfish parasite who brings absolutely nothing to this comp. Just a few days ago Levi called you out on it, and instead of helping out you're response was to do exactly what he said you were and wait for the votes to be sent, like the selfish POS you are
And stop carrying on like you've done anything - we've been through this before and you can't fight the facts - All you are is the Pacific minion responsible for naming the team.
You're not even a real coach
Absolutely correct, I couldn't agree more.
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 13, 2018, 10:27:18 PMMatt Suckling on the table. Taking Offers for ANYTHING in return. A Mid(of ANY type) or a Fwd(of ANY type) would be preferred.
We'll select the best offer, or just keep him if nothing worth doing comes through.
….There you go, is that better? Are you happy with that?
Never understood why people delete posts, make a different post, and then re-post the originally comment again tbh
Boy oh boy Brian, anyone would think Pacific had choked in a Semi-Final reading some of these cranky comments!
Quote from: fanTCfool on August 13, 2018, 11:00:10 PM
Boy oh boy Brian, anyone would think Pacific had choked in a Semi-Final reading some of these cranky comments!
;D
Quote from: fanTCfool on August 13, 2018, 11:00:10 PM
Boy oh boy Brian, anyone would think Pacific had choked in a Semi-Final reading some of these cranky comments!
So cranky, very angry. The volcanos are erupting all over the islands.
Quote from: GoLions on August 13, 2018, 10:39:11 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 13, 2018, 10:27:18 PMMatt Suckling on the table. Taking Offers for ANYTHING in return. A Mid(of ANY type) or a Fwd(of ANY type) would be preferred.
We'll select the best offer, or just keep him if nothing worth doing comes through.
….There you go, is that better? Are you happy with that?
Never understood why people delete posts, make a different post, and then re-post the originally comment again tbh
I've never understood it either. Suckling is getting good advertising though.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 13, 2018, 10:05:09 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 13, 2018, 09:49:43 PM
Quote from: GoLions on August 13, 2018, 09:46:01 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 13, 2018, 09:37:36 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 13, 2018, 09:33:59 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on August 13, 2018, 09:30:03 PM
We are the highest scoring club and he was our D3, that's a starting player.
I'm not up for Round 2 tonight, cbf, so I'll just stay clear on this one, but you being the highest scoring club and him being your D3 has absolutely nothing to do with his value
He's a 30 year old defender with 4 years of 70's. That's all that matters
Good luck getting that starting mid or forward for him :)
Princess you say something every time, worry about your own team. Coaches in a flag window, aren't going to listen to your opinion.
They also don't listen to cows either
Oh here we go. Yeah that's a good come back man, well done. Cows yeah I get it, big teats, four stomachs, go moooo.
Cows is the forum auto correcting C*NT, you bollard
Princess? LOL you're smack talk is embarrassing
And I'd bet most coaches do value my opinion because I actually contribute and try to help and support this league, where as you're nothing but a selfish parasite who brings absolutely nothing to this comp. Just a few days ago Levi called you out on it, and instead of helping out you're response was to do exactly what he said you were and wait for the votes to be sent, like the selfish POS you are
And stop carrying on like you've done anything - we've been through this before and you can't fight the facts - All you are is the Pacific minion responsible for naming the team.
You're not even a real coach
I love you RD. :-*
Could move
Brodie Smith, Jared Polec, Saints rucks, Mason Wood, Jordan Murdoch, Anthony Miles, Jarryn Geary, Adam Kennedy*, Lewis Jetta, Sam Wright, Matthew Broadbent
Our future (unlikely)
James Sicily, Darcy Byrne-Jones, Jacob Weitering, Lachie Hunter, Jack Graham, Jordan Cunico, Christian Petracca, James Harmes, Nic Newman, Aaron Naughton, James Worpel, Luke Davies-Uniacke, Charlie Constable
Looking like our Defence will be stacked next year. If you want a starting Defender, Matt Suckling is on the table.
Wanting a starting Mid or Fwd in return, can be packaged up if needed.
At this early stage we'll consider offers for any players, but don't need depth. May take picks for some guys, since our Salary Cap is high
Looking like our Defence will be stacked next year. If you want a starting Defender, Will Schofield is on the table.
Wanting a starting Mid in return, can be packaged up if needed.
At this early stage will consider offers for any players, but don't need depth. May take picks for some guys, since our Salary Cap is not low
Coaches Award nominee Ben Griffiths is off the table.
Pick 1? Pick 19? Pick 20? I can barely decide what type of cereal to have each morning, let alone which kids I'm gonna take at all these picks! Get them off of me!
Ben Cunnington whacked Beama last week in a dog act, so as of now I have officially changed the 2nd 'n' in his surname to a 't'. He is officially on the table. Enquire within. It's warm.
Jasper Pittard, Jake Carlisle, Jack Bowes, Josh Smith, Joel Amartey. That's too many defenders starting with a J. Will need to consult with RD first on how to approach this one, but someone has to go.
Quote from: GoLions on August 14, 2018, 11:30:48 PM
Jasper Pittard, Jake Carlisle, Jack Bowes, Josh Smith. That's too many defenders starting with a J. Will need to consult with RD first on how to approach this one, but someone has to go.
The second installment of the infamous pack could be real chance here
Fyfe + something
FOR
Lesser mid premo + def premo/fwd premo or another lesser mid premo.
Take him off my hands, I mean it this time.
Could move Toby
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 15, 2018, 10:06:06 PM
Could move Toby
Keep him and give me Medium Charlie instead
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 15, 2018, 08:09:37 PM
Fyfe + something
FOR
Lesser mid premo + def premo/fwd premo or another lesser mid premo.
Take him off my hands, I mean it this time.
:o :o :o :o :o
Rico gives: NDT's whole list + Elephants
Quote from: Ricochet on August 15, 2018, 10:56:35 PM
Rico gives: NDT's whole list + Elephants
Eles value really declined this year.
Done a Hanners
Available
Luke Strnadica, Connor Menadue, Zac Smith, Patrick Kerr, Timm House, Matt Dea, Ben McNiece, Aidan Corr, Alex Morgan, Dale Thomas, Tom North, Derek Smith, Ryan Burrows, Aaron Young, Sam Lloyd, Kayne Turner, Timothy Smith, Lachie Plowman, Harry Perryman, Jake Patmore, Brody Mihocek, Flynn Appleby, Ben Long, Fraser McInnes, Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti, Harry Cunningham, Jarman Impey
Unlikely
Tom Phillips, Seb Ross, Lachie Whitfield, Trent Cotchin, Josh Dunkley, Sam Powell-Pepper, Jason Johannisen, Zac Williams, Martin Gleeson, Jayden Short, Charlie Cameron, Will Hoskin-Elliott, Nathan Vardy, Bayley Fritsch, Scott Lycett, Jamie Cripps, Liam Ryan
All my picks are available too. Priorities are 80+ forwards and some young depth defenders and mids. Open to trading Cotchin (packaged with picks/players) for a younger prem mid or forward. Hit me up on Discord or via PM and I'll try to get back to you within a day or two.
Luke no longer grape Parker
4th rounder
5th round rookie
12
Crossley
Abbott (100 average ruck, 5th best in the comp!)
Cedric
These guys as good as locked in deals already. Speak now or forever hold your peace if you think one or some of them shouldn't be wed to their new homes.
Quote from: meow meow on August 16, 2018, 11:14:20 AM
Luke no longer grape Parker
4th rounder
5th round rookie
12
Crossley
Abbott (100 average ruck, 5th best in the comp!)
Cedric
These guys as good as locked in deals already. Speak now or forever hold your peace if you think one or some of them shouldn't be wed to their new homes.
Pick 1 for grapeless
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Instead of 800 teams asking about Parker, maybe someone can ask about McLean instead. He's younger and has scope for improvement left in him but he's already a gun. Clearly I am not too concerned about age, so if you've got an old gun + extra then we can talk.
London still reviewing their list but at the moment willing to move Tom T Lynch (Adelaide) and Shaun Burgoyne on for reasonable offers. So those in premiership window wanting a prem forward get in quick.
Matt de Boer for a Mid. Matt Suckling for a Mid or Fwd. Some players maybe available for picks as well.
We're open to trading the following players who are capable of starting
DEF: Jordan Lewis, Pearce Hanley, Robbie Tarrant, Lachie Henderson, Ben Reid, Reece Conca
MID: Luke Dunstan, Richie Douglas, Hugh Greenwood, Cam Ellis-Yolmen
RUC: Paddy Ryder (Would need a ruck in return)
FWD: Josh J Kennedy, Eddie Betts, Sam Reid
All of the rookie types and other older guys can move too
In most cases we would want a starter in return - lower avg is fine if younger etc and happy to package up several players too. Really just comes down to what you want and who you're offering
If anyone there interests you, and you have something reasonable to offer then hit me up :)
Alex Sexton will clearly win the Coleman next year
Get your offers in
59, 51, 38, 36, 46, 58
They are not scores you want to have on field.
Medium Charlie looked great when he was the only forward but since Harry McKay has come along Charlie has paid the price.
Should get rid of him ASAP, because that average is continuously dropping!
B: Shaw, McVeigh, Andrews, Wilson
M: Ablett, Parker, Gibbs, Murphy
R: Abbott
F: Stringer, Cox, Moore, Daicos
I: McLean, Scully
B: Austin 83.2, Langdon 77.9, McKenna 76.5, Richards, Lewis Young, Dale Morris, Schumacher, Cedric
M: Liberatore, Wills, Toumpas, 12, 31, 49, 67, 85
R: Sandilands, Darcy, Boyd, Crossley
F: Waite, Wells, Griffen, Dickson, Will Walker, Bailey, Daniels, James Stewart, Tyler Brown
Dylan Buckley, Tyrone, Rohan Bewick, Filopovic, Jack Frost
Someone give me a dang forward pleaseeeee
I flowering told you about this guy and you had you chance to get him cheap. He hasn't finished yet either. He'll keep going to at least 85.
2013 4 33.0
2014 6 45.8
2015 13 51.5
2016 19 66.8
2017 21 75.9
2018 20* 80.5
Getting better every year.
Get your offers in now for 25 year old Nathan Wilson. Priced at 80 but will be better than that. BTW he hasn't gone below 60 once this year.
2015 2 44.0
2016 12 53.4
2017 18 66.1
2018 17 76.5
(C)onor on his way to 80+ for sure. He's Irish so of course he's not going to peak early. Still just 22 years old though, and a vital part of the Bombers backline for the foreseeable future. I'd be willing to trade Wilson and play this guy instead as he has at least the same potential, and is younger to boot.
2014 19 71.0
2015 22 85.5
2016 5 81.8
2017 11 82.1
2018 18 77.9
24 year old Tom Langdon had a down year but still pretty good! He's surely an 80 average player and would fit into most teams best 4 defenders. I did pay picks 8 and 18 for him last year for a reason. A reliable steady gun. Get your offers in now.
Harris Andrews averaged 92 over the first 11 rounds. You know what he did then? Scored ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY TWO in round 12. Jezza tried to kill him in the first quarter in one match, and it knocked him silly for ages. Wasn't quite the same upon return but has recovered in the past fortnight with his usual 91 and 96 scores.
Don't bother getting your offers in unless it's realistic for this 21 year old 90+ super gun!
Don't flower with the formula.
It doesn't lie.
And no, it doesn't apply to first year players.
And no, it does not go on what they averaged, but what I expect them to average.
Libba is not worth 13 because he averaged 13. He's worth 80 if I say he's worth 80.
Quote from: meow meow on August 20, 2018, 11:23:22 PM
Don't flower with the formula.
It doesn't lie.
And no, it doesn't apply to first year players.
And no, it does not go on what they averaged, but what I expect them to average.
Libba is not worth 13 because he averaged 13. He's worth 80 if I say he's worth 80.
So basically,
it's subjective rubbish.
:P
Quote from: Torpedo10 on August 20, 2018, 11:25:27 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 20, 2018, 11:23:22 PM
Don't flower with the formula.
It doesn't lie.
And no, it doesn't apply to first year players.
And no, it does not go on what they averaged, but what I expect them to average.
Libba is not worth 13 because he averaged 13. He's worth 80 if I say he's worth 80.
So basically,
it's subjective rubbish.
:P
You're subjective rubbish.
Quote from: meow meow on August 20, 2018, 11:30:46 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on August 20, 2018, 11:25:27 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 20, 2018, 11:23:22 PM
Don't flower with the formula.
It doesn't lie.
And no, it doesn't apply to first year players.
And no, it does not go on what they averaged, but what I expect them to average.
Libba is not worth 13 because he averaged 13. He's worth 80 if I say he's worth 80.
So basically,
it's subjective rubbish.
:P
You're subjective rubbish.
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Quote from: GoLions on August 20, 2018, 11:40:33 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 20, 2018, 11:30:46 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on August 20, 2018, 11:25:27 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 20, 2018, 11:23:22 PM
Don't flower with the formula.
It doesn't lie.
And no, it doesn't apply to first year players.
And no, it does not go on what they averaged, but what I expect them to average.
Libba is not worth 13 because he averaged 13. He's worth 80 if I say he's worth 80.
So basically,
it's subjective rubbish.
:P
You're subjective rubbish.
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/32b81355e2ce08f96db601b60a25415c/tenor.gif?itemid=9170443)
Lamest comeback from Meow today.
*waits*
Beijing is going to be after a starting defender.
Forwards available - probably won't be trading Grundy, Wines, Ward, Neale but most of the others are fair game :)
Quote from: Toga on August 21, 2018, 11:01:41 AM
Beijing is going to be after a starting defender.
Forwards available - probably won't be trading Grundy, Wines, Ward, Neale but most of the others are fair game :)
I'd be happy to trade a def for a fwd, but only as long as talks don't drag out for 2 months :P
Jarrad Waite available for those teams wanting a forward.
Quote from: meow meow on August 21, 2018, 06:17:43 PM
Jarrad Waite available for those teams wanting a forward.
Happy to take him - can give you Kurt Tippett
Hitler is going to trade out Fyfe and thinks it's going to help him win the war. HAHAHAHA. So desperate.
Quote from: meow meow on August 21, 2018, 08:13:09 PM
Hitler is going to trade out Fyfe and thinks it's going to help him win the war. HAHAHAHA. So desperate.
My secret science division will do that. Although I'm slightly concerned about a Serum being developed where Cam Polson is the guinea pig. Probably nothing.
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 21, 2018, 09:03:28 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 21, 2018, 08:13:09 PM
Hitler is going to trade out Fyfe and thinks it's going to help him win the war. HAHAHAHA. So desperate.
My secret science division will do that. Although I'm slightly concerned about a Serum being developed where Cam Polson is the guinea pig. Probably nothing.
I think it's working. Should see him without the serum.
Outside of Gawn, Grundy, Witts and Abbott, all the rucks are either old or shower.
Sean Darcy the exception. He's only 20 and clearly he's going to be one of the best rucks around in the not too distant future. Probably one of the most valuable players in the comp due to his age, potential and position.
Can move in the right deal.
Quote from: meow meow on August 23, 2018, 12:03:43 AM
Outside of Gawn, Grundy, Witts and Abbott, all the rucks are either old or shower.
Sean Darcy the exception. He's only 20 and clearly he's going to be one of the best rucks around in the not too distant future. Probably one of the most valuable players in the comp due to his age, potential and position.
Can move in the right deal.
Nank > Witts
Quote from: GoLions on August 23, 2018, 12:05:22 AM
Quote from: meow meow on August 23, 2018, 12:03:43 AM
Outside of Gawn, Grundy, Witts and Abbott, all the rucks are either old or shower.
Sean Darcy the exception. He's only 20 and clearly he's going to be one of the best rucks around in the not too distant future. Probably one of the most valuable players in the comp due to his age, potential and position.
Can move in the right deal.
Nank > Witts
Every ruck > Abbott
Abbott is the best SCer ever. Career average of 105 and tons every time he plays.
Forgetting McKernGod
NDT stripped of draft picks for drug cheat tbh
Quote from: GoLions on August 24, 2018, 04:29:18 PM
NDT stripped of draft picks for drug cheat tbh
Compo
Can you use a defender now NDT?
Quote from: Holz on August 24, 2018, 05:08:06 PM
Can you use a defender now NDT?
None of your pie ones
Quote from: Ricochet on August 24, 2018, 05:08:50 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 24, 2018, 05:08:06 PM
Can you use a defender now NDT?
None of your pie ones
You sure? I reckon Holz might be able to package up Jack Henry with someone for you
Henry + Holman for Howe seems pretty good!
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 24, 2018, 05:16:21 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 24, 2018, 05:08:50 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 24, 2018, 05:08:06 PM
Can you use a defender now NDT?
None of your pie ones
You sure? I reckon Holz might be able to package up Jack Henry with someone for you
Henry + Holman for Howe seems pretty good!
Henry looking like he will be a premiership player. I cant see him moving. Looking like he will be a F/D which is super helpful.
Holman a possibility as stacked up front.
Quote from: meow meow on August 24, 2018, 06:13:53 PM
Levi said he'd trade me Cripps for McLean + 5 + Stringer
I can still post that and it's auto confirmed yeah?
sounds legit
At least it's believable :P.
Ada agreed to Witherden for Kreuzer.
Let's do this. :P
You'll have to bear with me over the next few days sorry guys! I'll be making the draft order thread, sorting out the new coaches, calculating the final salary cap and constructing the WXV Trade Centre spreadsheet over the coming days :)
Strong whispers going around that Mexico is holding everyone up on proposed trades
Reply to all your PM's and offers :P
And vote for new coach! ;D
I'm hearing this super draft is elite until pick 15 then it drops off a cliff
Something to keep in mind
Quote from: Ricochet on August 29, 2018, 11:52:55 AM
I'm hearing this super draft is elite until pick 15 then it drops off a cliff
Something to keep in mind
Wow! Lucky you guys got 15 and not one of the later picks then!!1! :o
Quote from: GoLions on August 29, 2018, 11:55:26 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 29, 2018, 11:52:55 AM
I'm hearing this super draft is elite until pick 15 then it drops off a cliff
Something to keep in mind
Wow! Lucky you guys got 15 and not one of the later picks then!!1! :o
Isn't it. Amazing how it works out sometimes
Quote from: Ricochet on August 29, 2018, 11:58:29 AM
Quote from: GoLions on August 29, 2018, 11:55:26 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 29, 2018, 11:52:55 AM
I'm hearing this super draft is elite until pick 15 then it drops off a cliff
Something to keep in mind
Wow! Lucky you guys got 15 and not one of the later picks then!!1! :o
Isn't it. Amazing how it works out sometimes
its fine a few coaches will make bad picks and we will get guns.
If anyone needs defenders we have a few, so some could move
Defenders: James Sicily, Brodie Smith, Jarryn Geary, Adam Kennedy, Darcy Byrne-Jones, Jacob Weitering, Lewis Jetta, Bernie Vince
We're open to trading Shaun Higgins, and we're open to receiving a starter in any position for him
Age and average obviously comes into it, but if you have a player who is a genuine starter and HigGOAT (103avg) interests you then hit me up and let me know what you have :)
Quote from: Ricochet on August 08, 2018, 12:34:43 AM
Fwds you all say?
Gray, Menegola, JMartin, Darling, Dahlhaus, Ziebell, Newnes, plus kids
Come at me
JMartin and Menegola probably the only untouchables
Don't really want to sell Dahl undervalued
Gray is gettable
Darling not sure
JZ and Newnes probably the easiest to move
Newnes last 4 years previous to this year: 81, 90, 88, 85 (and a concussed 11 bringing that year down from around 90)
Obviously can't value him at 85-90, but around 80 seems fair
JZ's last few years: 95, 84, 86, 94, 90, 85.
Gray: 99, 92, 108, 110, 111
Bit of interest in Brodie Smith earlier but he could be gone soon so get your offers in ;)
Might be a good time to mention/plug the FF Discord again. It's a good real time alternative to slinging FF PMs back and forth. We've already got a number of current Worlds coaches on there who use it quite often, including our two newest coaches.
You can either use the browser or program version on your laptop/PC, or download the app on your mobile device (phone/tablet).
It's great for trade talks, banter, general discussion or informing coaches of their picks during a draft. There's also the ability to chat in private groups that might be handy for those who like to try to trades with more than two parties.
Here's the link if you want to join: https://discord.gg/95UJz7f
Oh right yes, you can trade now!
meow, I will never get sick of your trades.
But, I will stop and say that we have a rule where you can't trade retired players! So you'll have to give away your drafts picks some other way :-\
Still happy to talk any trades for almost anyone
A few handy starting players in Jamie Macmillan (81) and Shane Edwards (88) are also on the market
PM me or get on discord :P
This time last year (4 days in) we already had 26 trades posted
This year we have 5
WTF is going on :o
Looking to move a certain Scott Pendlebury for a starting forward. PM or Discord if you're interested.
Callum Sinclair will be departing London soon so get any offers now if you want him. Will need to be good offer though to beat current best offer.
Alright, this ghost town of a trade period is getting really depressing
Need some reliable defence depth? Robbie Tarrant won't cost much. Lachie Henderson could move. Reece Conca could also possibly move
Looking to bat deeper in the mids? We can package up the likes of Pick 10, Luke Dunstan, Jed Anderson, Hugh Greenwood, Cam Ellis-Yolmen or the evergreen Richie Douglas, and we'd just want a slightly higher (90+ mid or starting def/fwd) player in return
Maybe you've got a 90+ mid, but Shaun HigGOAT will take you to the next level - he can move too!
Struggling for a reliable F4? These guys won't break the bank! Ben Reid, Alex Sexton, Zac Langdon, Eddie Betts etc won't cost you much but should be out on the park most weeks (**Reid questionable lol)
We're even open to trading JJK or Rough! Could even move Jordan Lewis or Pearce Hanley!
Heeney, Steele, Hoff, Langford, Gresham and Houston are the only 6 we don't plan on moving, but there's plenty of good stuff available
Let's get this trade period pumping people! Hit me up 8)
DEF: Jordan Lewis, Pearce Hanley, Dan Houston, Lachie Henderson, Robbie Tarrant, Reece Conca, Teia Miles, Sam Gilbert, Harry Marsh, Lachlan Keeffe, Matt Eagles, Declan Keilty, Joel Garner, Ben Paton
MID: Shaun Higgins, Isaac Heeney, Jack Steele, Hugh Greenwood, Kyle Langford, Jed Anderson, Luke Dunstan, Cam Ellis-Yolmen, Richard Douglas, Jackson Edwards, Jake Brown
RUC: Paddy Ryder, Kurt Tippett, Mabior Chol
FWD: Justin Westhoff, Josh J Kennedy, Jarryd Roughead, Jade Gresham, Sam Reid, Ben Reid, Eddie Betts, Alex Sexton, Zac Langdon, Esava Ratugolea, Jamaine Jones, Lachlan Murphy, Jake Long, Dion Johnstone, Gryan Miers, Hugh Dixon, Gordon Narrier
NAT PICKS: 10, 29, 47, 65, 83
PSD PICKS: 10, 28, 46, 64, 82
Happy to keep but also happy to trade:
Shane Edwards - 88 average fwd
Jimmy Webster - 92av (uninj) and 24 yrs old
Cale Hooker - Solid d4 or depth, 3 more years on the contract
Jamie Macmillan - 82 average 26 years old
Jamie Elliot - always injured
Harley Bennell - Has great speed and really good with the pill in his hand
Open to discussing deal with any of the above, my focus will be a little different to normal as not looking to go as young, higher cap players would be nice as well :P Happy to downgrade these guys for someone + pick or pair some up ect
Bit of interest in Gray, looking for a slightly better scoring mid. Or younger.
And also a few have asked about Langdon. Miiiiight consider offers with him involved.
;D ;D ;D
Only two teams left to vote:
Cape Town Cobras
Moscow Spetsnaz
The following trades received 0 or 1 vote, so they can only auto-pass from here:
Trade 1
Dublin trade: Justin Westhoff
New York trade: Shannon Hurn
Trade 2
Dublin trade: Stephen Hill + Pick 37
Christchurch trade: Pick 12
Trade 3
New York trade: Gryan Miers
Cape Town trade: Pick 74
Trade 4
Christchurch trade: Brayden Crossley
Buenos Aires trade: Pick 24
Trade 5
Christchurch trade: Luke Parker
Buenos Aires trade: Edward Curnow + Pick 5
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Minimal amount of interest in pick 1
Willing to package it with another pick or player for a pick upgrade, even if it's by one spot.
All votes are in (sorry for delay, had a quick trip to the 'G)
Trade 6
Seoul trade: Toby Greene, David Swallow + Pick 13
Christchurch trade: Toby McLean, Nathan Wilson, Pick 5 + Pick 31
Votes: 4
Coaches comments: Felt uneasy about the need for the upgrade from Pick 13 to Pick 5, and that Pick 31 was totally unnecessary. The trade could be passed without the picks needing to be involved.
Admin comment: You could mount an argument that Wilson + 31 FOR Dwallow, and McLean + 5 FOR Greene + 13 is reasonable, despite Greene's down year. Quality forwards don't grow on trees, so I don't agree with the coaches enough to overturn the verdict from a PASS to a REJECTION.
Verdict: PASS
WXV Draft Order & Player Lists (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,112123.0.html) and spreadsheet have been updated with the confirmed trades
Dan Hannebery just scored his highest score of the year
3x first rounders please
Quote from: Ricochet on September 09, 2018, 01:28:52 AM
Dan Hannebery just scored his highest score of the year
3x first rounders please
And still sub 100.
If i can get another 1st round rookie though ill do the deal.
Quote from: Ricochet on September 09, 2018, 01:28:52 AM
Dan Hannebery just scored his highest score of the year
3x first rounders please
I knew he was going crap, but I just looked at his scores for the first time
Wow
Not a single ton all year, and only 4 scores over 80 LOL what a fall from grace
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 09, 2018, 09:40:28 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 09, 2018, 01:28:52 AM
Dan Hannebery just scored his highest score of the year
3x first rounders please
I knew he was going crap, but I just looked at his scores for the first time
Wow
Not a single ton all year, and only 4 scores over 80 LOL what a fall from grace
Ahh he'll come good, too good a player not to. No surprise Swans had their worst season in years when one of their most elite mids could never get his body right ;)
Quote from: elephants on September 09, 2018, 04:11:03 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 09, 2018, 09:40:28 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 09, 2018, 01:28:52 AM
Dan Hannebery just scored his highest score of the year
3x first rounders please
I knew he was going crap, but I just looked at his scores for the first time
Wow
Not a single ton all year, and only 4 scores over 80 LOL what a fall from grace
Ahh he'll come good, too good a player not to. No surprise Swans had their worst season in years when one of their most elite mids could never get his body right ;)
Makes sense hanners was ok last night and the swans killed it
Quote from: Holz on September 09, 2018, 07:52:20 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 09, 2018, 04:11:03 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 09, 2018, 09:40:28 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 09, 2018, 01:28:52 AM
Dan Hannebery just scored his highest score of the year
3x first rounders please
I knew he was going crap, but I just looked at his scores for the first time
Wow
Not a single ton all year, and only 4 scores over 80 LOL what a fall from grace
Ahh he'll come good, too good a player not to. No surprise Swans had their worst season in years when one of their most elite mids could never get his body right ;)
Makes sense hanners was ok last night and the swans killed it
It was literally 1 vs 22 out there. Hanners can't do it all doe
Quote from: Holz on September 09, 2018, 01:56:39 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 09, 2018, 01:28:52 AM
Dan Hannebery just scored his highest score of the year
3x first rounders please
And still sub 100.
If i can get another 1st round rookie though ill do the deal.
That's 4x first rounders for you
Quote from: Ricochet on September 09, 2018, 09:13:36 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 09, 2018, 01:56:39 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 09, 2018, 01:28:52 AM
Dan Hannebery just scored his highest score of the year
3x first rounders please
And still sub 100.
If i can get another 1st round rookie though ill do the deal.
That's 4x first rounders for you
I reckon i could get 4 first round rookie/psd picks
So post it up once i get them?
Quote from: Holz on September 09, 2018, 09:24:13 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 09, 2018, 09:13:36 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 09, 2018, 01:56:39 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 09, 2018, 01:28:52 AM
Dan Hannebery just scored his highest score of the year
3x first rounders please
And still sub 100.
If i can get another 1st round rookie though ill do the deal.
That's 4x first rounders for you
I reckon i could get 4 first round rookie/psd picks
So post it up once i get them?
Go for it mate, post it up all you like haha
Remember that time some dickhead traded Pick 6 + Dom Sheed + Rhys Mathieson for Dan Hannebery?
Remember that time a struggling team down the bottom of the ladder traded N5 for a young Taylor Adams and it was blocked because people though the strugglers getting Adams were getting smashed? *sigh* ily Taylor
Quote from: Nige on September 10, 2018, 10:01:40 AM
Remember that time some dickhead traded Pick 6 + Dom Sheed + Rhys Mathieson for Dan Hannebery?
Feel free to do it again
Quote from: Nige on September 10, 2018, 10:01:40 AM
Remember that time some dickhead traded Pick 6 + Dom Sheed + Rhys Mathieson for Dan Hannebery?
Don't forget Weller also included with Hannebery. ;)
Just letting you all know that Tom Lynch (Adelaide) will probably be walking out the door on Wednesday so if you want to make any offers please PM myself or LF or talk on discord.
Should have mentioned that mids are the priority for London.
I had a quick read of some old confab and I've been convinced that there's a player out there who is massively underrated in WXV. Would the coach who has Ryan Lester on their list please get in touch?
Quote from: Ricochet on September 09, 2018, 09:13:36 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 09, 2018, 01:56:39 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 09, 2018, 01:28:52 AM
Dan Hannebery just scored his highest score of the year
3x first rounders please
And still sub 100.
If i can get another 1st round rookie though ill do the deal.
That's 4x first rounders for you
So he's requested a trade
5x first rounders now
Adding Hawkins to the Toronto forward line allows David Mundy to move on.
22 games and a 96.0 average this year with 11 tons and only 2 scores below 78.
The likely departure of Lachie Neale can only spell more mid-time and responsibility for Mundy, who averaged 113.5 in that role in 2015.
Had a couple of inquiries about Nic Nat and he's someone I would consider trading. He'll most likely be back before WXV Finals and could be a handy long-term gain from short-term pain. Could potentially move him in a deal not involving a ruck, though a ruck would be preferred.
Anyone got a 79.5 averaging forward that they want to give me, and upgrade one of my picks while they're at it in return for nothing?
That's the Jed Anderson + 80 for pick 85 trade from last year.
How did it even pass? Where's my flowering compo you criminals?!
Out: 27 yr old Redden. 22 games @ 95.3
In: 31 yr old Murphy. 13 games @ 92.4
Oh and of course I had to include pick 26 in the deal, because the age difference and injury history wasn't enough of a rip off, can't have me not getting screwed to the maximum amount.
Out:
22 yr old Steele. 21 @ 94.4
21 yr old Langford. 21 @ 80.4 (forward)
In:
29 yr old Gibbs. 22 (obviously, he's not Rocky) @ 96.5
26 yr old Lester (on traded for a pick upgrade of 9 spots)
flowering disgraceful. Steele alone is worth Gibbs + a top 5 pick
Swallow 89 mid for Wilson 80 def was fair. Maybe even slightly in Seoul's favour due to Swallow being injury prone but close enough, they're the same age and everything.
But okay, let's add a 22 year old 96 ave mid for a 24 year old 72 ave forward. Granted Greene has upside, but he NEEDS to reach it for this to be even.
Hang on, you need to downgrade 5 to 13... for no apparent reason.
And add pick 31 too, also for no apparent reason other than we insist that Christchurch lose the trade.
Oh what's that, you're going to trade a 23 year old defender who averaged 84 who was brought in to fill a specific need at the Saints and looks to have cemented his spot now that Gilbert and Goddard have been delisted? We'll give you a guy who is older and 10 points worse at his best. That's if he even plays. He's played a grand total of ONE MATCH IN TWO SEASONS due to being the most injury prone player in the comp. We'll give you a pitiful pick upgrade to make up for that.
Quote from: meow meow on September 12, 2018, 02:45:53 PM
Oh what's that, you're going to trade a 23 year old defender who averaged 84 who was brought in to fill a specific need at the Saints and looks to have cemented his spot now that Gilbert and Goddard have been delisted? We'll give you a guy who is older and 10 points worse at his best. That's if he even plays. He's played a grand total of ONE MATCH IN TWO SEASONS due to being the most injury prone player in the comp. We'll give you a pitiful pick upgrade to make up for that.
Played 20 games last year actually, and was the highest averaging fwd this year ;)
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 12, 2018, 03:08:56 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 12, 2018, 02:45:53 PM
Oh what's that, you're going to trade a 23 year old defender who averaged 84 who was brought in to fill a specific need at the Saints and looks to have cemented his spot now that Gilbert and Goddard have been delisted? We'll give you a guy who is older and 10 points worse at his best. That's if he even plays. He's played a grand total of ONE MATCH IN TWO SEASONS due to being the most injury prone player in the comp. We'll give you a pitiful pick upgrade to make up for that.
Played 20 games last year actually, and was the highest averaging fwd this year ;)
I didn't specify which seasons pal. Surely most people would automaticity know I meant 2016 and 2018.
Surely
Quote from: meow meow on September 12, 2018, 04:18:53 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 12, 2018, 03:08:56 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 12, 2018, 02:45:53 PM
Oh what's that, you're going to trade a 23 year old defender who averaged 84 who was brought in to fill a specific need at the Saints and looks to have cemented his spot now that Gilbert and Goddard have been delisted? We'll give you a guy who is older and 10 points worse at his best. That's if he even plays. He's played a grand total of ONE MATCH IN TWO SEASONS due to being the most injury prone player in the comp. We'll give you a pitiful pick upgrade to make up for that.
Played 20 games last year actually, and was the highest averaging fwd this year ;)
I didn't specify which seasons pal. Surely most people would automaticity know I meant 2016 and 2018.
speaking of guys who miss games, hoff missed all the games between 1986 and 2006. Would want back up for him surely.
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We're looking for a forward capable of starting
80+ avg is ideal, but will look at mid 70'ish types who have upside
Let me know who you have, and what you'd want from us in return
Maybe just get good at trading meow, only reason you need compo if your trading habits tbf
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 12, 2018, 07:52:03 PM
We're looking for a forward capable of starting
80+ avg is ideal, but will look at mid 70'ish types who have upside
Let me know who you have, and what you'd want from us in return
low 70s but he is only 20
Elliott Himmelberg
Teams still left to vote:
- PNL
- Cape Town
- Cairo
- Moscow
Quote from: elephants on September 13, 2018, 10:50:38 AM
Maybe just get good at trading meow, only reason you need compo if your trading habits tbf
Elliott and Hrovat for pick 2
McKernan for pick 12
2 and 12 for Stef
.
That's good trading. But I'm only allowed to get away with bad trades.
The damage is already done. Steele, Blakely, Fiorini, English, SPS, Wilson, Crossley, Lever, McLean, Langford, ANB for Greene, Swallow and a few old flowers can't be fixed easily haha.
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 08, 2018, 03:29:28 PM
All votes are in (sorry for delay, had a quick trip to the 'G)
Trade 6
Seoul trade: Toby Greene, David Swallow + Pick 13
Christchurch trade: Toby McLean, Nathan Wilson, Pick 5 + Pick 31
Votes: 4
Coaches comments: Felt uneasy about the need for the upgrade from Pick 13 to Pick 5, and that Pick 31 was totally unnecessary. The trade could be passed without the picks needing to be involved.
Admin comment: You could mount an argument that Wilson + 31 FOR Dwallow, and McLean + 5 FOR Greene + 13 is reasonable, despite Greene's down year. Quality forwards don't grow on trees, so I don't agree with the coaches enough to overturn the verdict from a PASS to a REJECTION.
Verdict: PASS
Oh yeahhhhhhhh
All coaches have voted.
The following trades received 0 votes, and will auto-pass
Trade 8
New York trade: Sam B Reid + Pick 29
Christchurch trade: Logan Austin + Pick 37
Trade 10
PNL trade: Jarrod Harbrow + Pick 41
Berlin trade: Nathan Jones + Pick 30
Trade 11
London trade James Cousins + Pick 57
Cape Town trade: Pick 38
Trade 12
Rio de Janeiro trade: Pick 6
London trade: Callum Sinclair + Sam Hayes
These trades received votes:
Trade 7
New York trade: Luke Dunstan, Zac Giles-Langdon + Pick 10
Mexico City trade: Brodie Smith, Pick 22 + Pick 40
Votes: 2
Coaches comments: Felt either Dunstan or Pick 10 was unnecessary, and that the trade was fair with just one of these items, not both.
Admin comment: I do somewhat agree with the coaches here, but it's an autopass.
Verdict: PASS
Trade 9
Dublin trade: Tom Hawkins
Toronto trade: Scott Pendlebury
Votes: 2
Coaches comments: Felt Hawkins wasn't worth Pendlebury, given the differing reliability of both.
Admin comment: Whilst that maybe true, can see the merit. Autopassed.
Verdict: PASS
Trade 13
New York trade: Shaun Higgins
Christchurch trade: Tom Liberatore
Votes: 3
Coaches comments: Felt Higgins was worth more than Liberatore, given his form line over the past 4 years.
Admin comment: Autopassed
Verdict: PASS
London has conducted exit reviews and now posts the results.
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We would be looking for Forwards and Mids.
Current Draft Picks:
International Draft: 2,6, 21,38,39, 75
Pre-Season Draft: 2,20, 38, 57,75
Feel free to discuss on Discord or PM myself or LF.
Edit 15-9-18
Lynch and Matthieson have joined the red brigade and are now required players due to some late player movements.
Think you made a mistake there Ringo
Willem Drew should be red
Fml i really wanted Sheppard as well :'(
Happy to hear offers for either Jimmy Webster or Tom Doedee, lesser player + pick or a package deal is fine
If anyone is looking for starters that won't cost you the world. we're open to trading some of our older players
Most of them still have multiple years left, and are proven starting quality scorers
Looking for younger/less avg players in return, or we could package several up for 1 better player etc
DEF: Jordan Lewis, Pearce Hanley, Robbie Tarrant, Lachie Henderson
MID: Richie Douglas
RUC: Paddy Ryder (Need a ruck back)
FWD: Josh J Kennedy, Jarryd Roughead, Ben Reid, Eddie Betts
B: Stephen Hill, (C)onor McKenna, Eduardo Richards, Darcy Moore
M: Bomber Scully 105, pick 13, 24, 29
R: Darcy
F: Josh Daicos, Brent Daniels, Will Walker, Beetle Bailey
I: Tom Boyd, Daniel Wells
B: Dale Morris, Lewis Young, Angus Schumacher, Cedric Cox
M: Tyler Brown, Ruperto Wills, 49, 67
R: Abbott
F: James Stewart, Ryan Griffen, Tory Dickson, 85
I: PSD 12, PSD 30
Looking to improve my reserves teams. If anyone can offer up a couple of AFL players for pick 13 that would help. Could even move 89.5 ruckman Abbott for someone good enough to make my first reserves team.
Nathan Brown 41.9
Jed Bews 42.5
Roarke Smith 45.5
Jarrod Garlett 46
Jack Silvagni 46.9
Michael Rischitelli 47.9
Sam Reid 50.1
Kaiden Brand 54.5
Sam Day 55.6
Bailey Dale 57.4
Jake Kolodjashnij 59
Neville Jetta 59
Dean Towers 59.2
Mitch Honeychurch 59.7
Will Hayward 59.9
Lin Jong 60
Aaron Young 60
If any of these guys are available let me know. Clearly they're guns who will help me claim the WXV premiership.
Sweet Jesus is in fact available.
Quote from: meow meow on September 14, 2018, 06:49:42 PM
Nathan Brown 41.9
Jed Bews 42.5
Roarke Smith 45.5
Jarrod Garlett 46
Jack Silvagni 46.9
Michael Rischitelli 47.9
Sam Reid 50.1
Kaiden Brand 54.5
Sam Day 55.6
Bailey Dale 57.4
Jake Kolodjashnij 59
Neville Jetta 59
Dean Towers 59.2
Mitch Honeychurch 59.7
Will Hayward 59.9
Lin Jong 60
Aaron Young 60
If any of these guys are available let me know. Clearly they're guns who will help me claim the WXV premiership.
You can have Duryea
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 08, 2018, 03:45:31 PM
WXV Draft Order & Player Lists (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,112123.0.html) and spreadsheet have been updated with the confirmed trades
Anyone got a F18 going cheaply? Need to replace Griff.
Murphy, Curnow, Scully, Greene, Sandilands, Wells, McVeigh, Stringer maybe even Langdon all available.
I have Brayshaw, Yeo, Taranto, JOM, Cripps in my midfield. I also have barely anything in Fwd or Def. At most I will be trading out one of those 5 superstars, with a look at upgrading my other lines. There's obviously been interest in them, but I will be taking my time before trading one out, unless an unreal offer comes in haha
Outside of those guys, Aaron Hall, Dom Tyson are the other two players that I'm willing to move on.
I want to hold onto Cameron, Francis and Maynard.
Quote from: PowerBug on September 17, 2018, 11:55:13 AM
I have Brayshaw, Yeo, Taranto, JOM, Cripps in my midfield. I also have barely anything in Fwd or Def. At most I will be trading out one of those 5 superstars, with a look at upgrading my other lines.
So you're telling me there's a chance! :P
Sidey + JZ for Cripps
Quote from: Ricochet on September 17, 2018, 12:01:27 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on September 17, 2018, 11:55:13 AM
I have Brayshaw, Yeo, Taranto, JOM, Cripps in my midfield. I also have barely anything in Fwd or Def. At most I will be trading out one of those 5 superstars, with a look at upgrading my other lines.
So you're telling me there's a chance! :P
Sidey + JZ for Cripps
Well one person decided to offer up a premium defender, a fwd and a ruck that were premium in 2017, a 1st round draft pick, and a young player that was a fwd in 2018 and averaged almost 80.
All for Cripps.
So there's a starting point for you :P
Quote from: PowerBug on September 17, 2018, 12:11:31 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 17, 2018, 12:01:27 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on September 17, 2018, 11:55:13 AM
I have Brayshaw, Yeo, Taranto, JOM, Cripps in my midfield. I also have barely anything in Fwd or Def. At most I will be trading out one of those 5 superstars, with a look at upgrading my other lines.
So you're telling me there's a chance! :P
Sidey + JZ for Cripps
Well one person decided to offer up a premium defender, a fwd and a ruck that were premium in 2017, a 1st round draft pick, and a young player that was a fwd in 2018 and averaged almost 80.
All for Cripps.
So there's a starting point for you :P
I wonder who that was ::)
Quote from: PowerBug on September 17, 2018, 12:11:31 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 17, 2018, 12:01:27 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on September 17, 2018, 11:55:13 AM
I have Brayshaw, Yeo, Taranto, JOM, Cripps in my midfield. I also have barely anything in Fwd or Def. At most I will be trading out one of those 5 superstars, with a look at upgrading my other lines.
So you're telling me there's a chance! :P
Sidey + JZ for Cripps
Well one person decided to offer up a premium defender, a fwd and a ruck that were premium in 2017, a 1st round draft pick, and a young player that was a fwd in 2018 and averaged almost 80.
All for Cripps.
So there's a starting point for you :P
I'll add Ele's right nut and a dart board with Dublin's pie squad on it. Post up and I'll confirm
Quote from: Ricochet on September 17, 2018, 12:23:27 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on September 17, 2018, 12:11:31 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 17, 2018, 12:01:27 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on September 17, 2018, 11:55:13 AM
I have Brayshaw, Yeo, Taranto, JOM, Cripps in my midfield. I also have barely anything in Fwd or Def. At most I will be trading out one of those 5 superstars, with a look at upgrading my other lines.
So you're telling me there's a chance! :P
Sidey + JZ for Cripps
Well one person decided to offer up a premium defender, a fwd and a ruck that were premium in 2017, a 1st round draft pick, and a young player that was a fwd in 2018 and averaged almost 80.
All for Cripps.
So there's a starting point for you :P
I'll add Ele's right nut and a dart board with Dublin's pie squad on it. Post up and I'll confirm
If i can get Lamb from Pacific then can offer him for Crippa
Higgo for McKay and 41 has been copping a bit of shower on discord.
Higgins will be 31 next season. Clearly a gun but his time in the sun won't be for too much longer, and who knows what the influx of mids will do to his scoring, if anything.
McKay averaged 66. Not outstanding by any means but he's shown a bit in his 2 seasons. I think he's capable of developing into a 75-80 forward and that's acceptable compensation for old Higgo. Buddy averaged 63 in his second season. I'm not expecting McKay to be the next Buddy but he's got some scope for improvement, being a young key forward and all.
Quote from: meow meow on September 17, 2018, 01:38:32 PM
Higgo for McKay and 41 has been copping a bit of shower on discord.
Higgins will be 31 next season. Clearly a gun but his time in the sun won't be for too much longer, and who knows what the influx of mids will do to his scoring, if anything.
McKay averaged 66. Not outstanding by any means but he's shown a bit in his 2 seasons. I think he's capable of developing into a 75-80 forward and that's acceptable compensation for old Higgo. Buddy averaged 63 in his second season. I'm not expecting McKay to be the next Buddy but he's got some scope for improvement, being a young key forward and all.
It just sets a precedence though which I'm not too keen on
The whole age thing does my head in too. Higgo has had a career best year and there is no reason why he will slow down. Even if Polec etc come into the side Higgo will still be right in the mids, and at the least I think 95+ is easily achievable, and for 2 possibly 3 more years. That's still a lot of football - most of us might not even be here in 3 years time let alone worrying about age and what someone "might" do in 5 years time
I get what you're saying, but there has to be a much easier way to get someone like McKay.
I'll be here in 30 years mate.
Trade me Steele for Murphy and McVeigh if ages don't matter. You'll be getting 2 starters for one so clearlya great deal.
I tried getting McKay the easier way. Didn't happen.
If anything, I'm actually surprised that Purps thought it was fair too
I'm sure there are plenty of previous trades that we can reference to show that 30 year old 100+ mids demanded a hell of a lot more than a 66avg KPP
Anyway, you've both agreed to it, so now we just wait for the coaches to vote
I'll argue that Esava Ratugolea has shown more than McKay
I've had a few teams ask about big Sav
Well now, the asking price is a 100+ mid, no older than 30
Not even 12 months ago Joel Selwood was traded for Luke Dunstan + Hugh Greenwood
Selwood and Higgins are basically the same value now, but McKay isn't worth Dunstan + Greenwood
Higgins would be worth somewhere in the #10-#20 area. McKay was pick #10 in the AFL draft(#37 in WXV draft).
After a few pre season into his body, wouldn't he be worth a mid to late 1st round pick?
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 17, 2018, 02:32:30 PM
Selwood and Higgins are basically the same value now, but McKay isn't worth Dunstan + Greenwood
You heard him Purps, go get yourself Jelwood
Cant see why Holz would say no
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 17, 2018, 02:32:30 PM
I'll argue that Esava Ratugolea has shown more than McKay
I've had a few teams ask about big Sav
Well now, the asking price is a 100+ mid, no older than 30
Not even 12 months ago Joel Selwood was traded for Luke Dunstan + Hugh Greenwood
Selwood and Higgins are basically the same value now, but McKay isn't worth Dunstan + Greenwood
Yea, McKay > Dunstan + Greenwood
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 17, 2018, 04:16:00 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 17, 2018, 02:32:30 PM
I'll argue that Esava Ratugolea has shown more than McKay
I've had a few teams ask about big Sav
Well now, the asking price is a 100+ mid, no older than 30
Not even 12 months ago Joel Selwood was traded for Luke Dunstan + Hugh Greenwood
Selwood and Higgins are basically the same value now, but McKay isn't worth Dunstan + Greenwood
Yea, McKay > Dunstan + Greenwood
Unless SC counts VFL stats? Then Dunstan value will skyrocket.
Quote from: GoLions on September 17, 2018, 04:19:55 PM
Unless SC counts VFL stats? Then Dunstan value will skyrocket.
16 AFL games this year and 5 VFL games
McKay played more VFL then him!
In what world does Jelwood = Higgins in terms of value
Quote from: elephants on September 17, 2018, 09:37:04 PM
In what world does Jelwood = Higgins in terms of value
I think it is a typo and its Scott or Troy.
Cant be jelly that makes no sense.
Quote from: Holz on September 17, 2018, 09:56:41 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 17, 2018, 09:37:04 PM
In what world does Jelwood = Higgins in terms of value
I think it is a typo and its Scott or Troy.
Cant be jelly that makes no sense.
Jelwood averaged 105 and Higgins 103, and they're the same age (few months difference)
Jelwood averaged 102 last year, so for the past 2 years 103.5avg or there abouts
I don't think valuing them the same or similarly is a problem
Quote from: Holz on September 17, 2018, 09:56:41 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 17, 2018, 09:37:04 PM
In what world does Jelwood = Higgins in terms of value
I think it is a typo and its Scott or Troy.
Cant be jelly that makes no sense.
Scooter > Higgins
Quote from: Holz on September 17, 2018, 09:56:41 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 17, 2018, 09:37:04 PM
In what world does Jelwood = Higgins in terms of value
I think it is a typo and its Scott or Troy.
Cant be jelly that makes no sense.
Even Troy is probably worth more. Cult hero
Get your offers in for Toby Greene. Dublin leading the race, Buenos Aires second and Seoul third at the moment.
The winning offer will most likely involve a pick, and another player or pick.
Teams left to vote:
Christchurch Saints
Moscow Spetsnaz
Pacific Islanders
2 teams left to vote, but all trades have been decided:
Trade 14
Cairo trade: Mitch Honeychurch
Christchurch trade: Pick 49
Votes: 0
Coaches Comments: None
Admin comments: Sweet, JESUS!
Verdict: PASS
Trade 15
London trade: Pick 6
Mexico City trade: Jared Polec + Lewis Jetta
Votes: 0
Coaches Comments: None.
Admin comments: Cool!
Verdict: PASS
Trade 16
PNL trade: Pick 4
Christchurch trade: Gary Ablett Jnr, Bryce Gibbs + Heath Shaw
Votes: 6
Coaches Comments: Felt GAJ or Shaw was unnecessary, expressed concerns about the vacuum created by the departure of three starters for just one pick.
Admin comments: The trade has failed, with me having the power to overturn it. I don't disagree with the coaches enough to overturn it.
Verdict: REJECTED
Trade 17
Christchurch trade: Shaun Higgins
Berlin trade: Harry McKay + Pick 41
Votes: 8
Coaches Comments: Felt the unproven McKay did not warrant a 100+ averaging midfielder, regardless of his age.
Admin comments: Noted!
Verdict: REJECTED
Trade 18
Berlin trade: Charlie Dixon + Jordan Ridley
Tokyo trade: Trent Cotchin + Connor Menadue
Votes: 1
Coaches Comments: *redacted for anonymity*
Admin comments: I, WANNA SWWWIIIIINNNNGGGG, FROM THE MENNNAA-NA-DOOOO, FROM THE MENA-NA-DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-OOOOOOO!
Verdict: PASS
A reminder that your negs will be forward onto the coaches of the failed trades, anonymously.
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 20, 2018, 09:20:36 PM
Teams left to vote:
Christchurch Saints
Moscow Spetsnaz
Pacific Islanders
Lies. I would have been one of the first to reply.
Quote from: meow meow on September 20, 2018, 11:09:38 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 20, 2018, 09:20:36 PM
Teams left to vote:
Christchurch Saints
Moscow Spetsnaz
Pacific Islanders
Lies. I would have been one of the first to reply.
Ah, yes you were :-X
Legitimate question here folks.
Sinclair is able to be traded for pick 6. Polec able to be traded for pick 6. Higgins isn't able to be traded for McKay because he's unproven.
What's the difference?
Quote from: meow meow on September 21, 2018, 01:24:56 PM
Legitimate question here folks.
Sinclair is able to be traded for pick 6. Polec able to be traded for pick 6. Higgins isn't able to be traded for McKay because he's unproven.
What's the difference?
Mckay is the 2nd best KPF i dont think unproven is the correct word. Likely limited upside is a better reason.
Quote from: Holz on September 21, 2018, 01:39:56 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 21, 2018, 01:24:56 PM
Legitimate question here folks.
Sinclair is able to be traded for pick 6. Polec able to be traded for pick 6. Higgins isn't able to be traded for McKay because he's unproven.
What's the difference?
Mckay is the 2nd best KPF i dont think unproven is the correct word. Likely limited upside is a better reason.
You say limited potential, I say good potential. Isn't that what this comp is about?
Quote from: meow meow on September 21, 2018, 02:02:57 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 21, 2018, 01:39:56 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 21, 2018, 01:24:56 PM
Legitimate question here folks.
Sinclair is able to be traded for pick 6. Polec able to be traded for pick 6. Higgins isn't able to be traded for McKay because he's unproven.
What's the difference?
Mckay is the 2nd best KPF i dont think unproven is the correct word. Likely limited upside is a better reason.
You say limited potential, I say good potential. Isn't that what this comp is about?
can you give some examples of 2nd best KPFs on bad teams that have done well?
Quote from: meow meow on September 21, 2018, 01:24:56 PM
Legitimate question here folks.
Sinclair is able to be traded for pick 6. Polec able to be traded for pick 6. Higgins isn't able to be traded for McKay because he's unproven.
What's the difference?
Sinclair is a 90+ R1
Polec is a 90+ Mid
Higgins is a 100+ Mid
McKay is, well not much at the moment
Quote from: Holz on September 21, 2018, 02:05:38 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 21, 2018, 02:02:57 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 21, 2018, 01:39:56 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 21, 2018, 01:24:56 PM
Legitimate question here folks.
Sinclair is able to be traded for pick 6. Polec able to be traded for pick 6. Higgins isn't able to be traded for McKay because he's unproven.
What's the difference?
Mckay is the 2nd best KPF i dont think unproven is the correct word. Likely limited upside is a better reason.
You say limited potential, I say good potential. Isn't that what this comp is about?
can you give some examples of 2nd best KPFs on bad teams that have done well?
Ben Brown
Quote from: meow meow on September 21, 2018, 02:33:50 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 21, 2018, 02:05:38 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 21, 2018, 02:02:57 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 21, 2018, 01:39:56 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 21, 2018, 01:24:56 PM
Legitimate question here folks.
Sinclair is able to be traded for pick 6. Polec able to be traded for pick 6. Higgins isn't able to be traded for McKay because he's unproven.
What's the difference?
Mckay is the 2nd best KPF i dont think unproven is the correct word. Likely limited upside is a better reason.
You say limited potential, I say good potential. Isn't that what this comp is about?
can you give some examples of 2nd best KPFs on bad teams that have done well?
Ben Brown
Id say most would call Brown better then Waite plus was on a North team that almost made finals. Even then he put up a fairly average 82.
so best case he can be Ben Brown and average 77-82?
Can the latest trade to be posted be rejected before it even goes to vote on account of one party not informing a third party that the player involved in the trade is on the move?
Quote from: Nige on September 21, 2018, 03:28:46 PM
Can the latest trade to be posted be rejected before it even goes to vote on account of one party not informing a third party that the player involved in the trade is on the move?
Quote from: Nige on September 21, 2018, 03:28:46 PM
Can the latest trade to be posted be rejected before it even goes to vote on account of one party not informing a third party that the player involved in the trade is on the move?
If you expressed interest in that player, then yes, it will be auto-rejected until all parties are satisfied.
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 15, 2018, 01:03:14 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 08, 2018, 03:45:31 PM
WXV Draft Order & Player Lists (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,112123.0.html) and spreadsheet have been updated with the confirmed trades
Coaches still to vote:
- Cape Town
- Cairo
Looking for Mids, fwds, picks and players to help with cap
Just on my players here is who's available
Going to delist/free
Jarryd Blair, Jacob Townsend, Daniel Robinson, Callum Moore, Kayle Kirby, Ryan Schoenmakers, Sam McLarty, Tyson Goldsack, Patrick Ambrose
Could potentially move (First lot more movable)
Jarryn Geary, Sam Wright, Matthew Broadbent, Lewis Melican, Jordan Murdoch, Tim O'Brien, Ivan Soldo, Darcy MacPherson, Jack Silvagni
Darcy Byrne-Jones, James Harmes, Luke Dunstan, Anthony Miles, Mason Wood, Mitch Hannan, Adam Kennedy, Jordan Cunico, George Horlin-Smith
Don't bother
James Sicily, Jacob Weitering, Lachie Hunter, Tom Hickey, Billy Longer, Lewis Pierce, Christian Petracca, Zac Langdon, Nic Newman, Jack Graham, Aaron Naughton, James Worpel, Luke Davies-Uniacke, Charlie Constable
There's been interest in Aaron Hall and I think there has been a few of you that I haven't replied to, so I'll just do so here:
With him looking like being traded, I value him a lot higher now and I think he can bounce back to those low 90s numbers that he used to hit, and no offer I received is good enough for me to consider trading. Plus, I'd like to keep him I think as he does now start for me with Brayshaw traded :)
If anyone likes these players for depth, cap or whatever happy to trade any of the following for picks or players
Chris Mayne
Cale Hooker
Chris Masten
David Armitage - 95 average second half of the season after moving back in the mid
Mark Lecras
Already had a few offers for a few
All votes are in!
Trade 19
Dublin trade: Nick Holman, Brandon Zerk-Thatcher + Pick 12
Tokyo trade: Patrick Kerr + Pick 9
Votes: 0
Coaches Comments: None.
Admin comments: Fills a hole, man,
Verdict: PASS
Trade 20
New Delhi trade: Jack Ziebell, Daniel Rich, Hamish Hartlett, Pick 15 + Pick 34
Rio de Janeiro trade: Angus Brayshaw + Pick 25
Votes: 3
Coaches Comments: 2 coaches felt this was an overpay by New Delhi, by way of trading 3 starters for 1. The other felt HH and DR did not have the value they once did, are are not worthy parts of the trade.
Admin comments: Is Gus is Good. Fills a need for both teams, autopassed.
Verdict: PASS
Trade 21
Dublin trade: Braydon Preuss, Pick 18, Pick 55 + PSD Pick 18
Christchurch trade: Toby Greene, Aaron Sandilands + Pick 85
Votes: 14
Coaches Comments: Felt value has been preemptively been placed on Preuss, and cannot be compared to Greene, whom is a premium forward in his own right when fit.
Admin comments: Nothing more to add to this one.
Verdict: REJECTED
Trade 22
PNL trade: Pick 4, Pick 30 + Pick 49
Christchurch trade: Gary Ablett Jnr, Bryce Gibbs + Heath Shaw
Votes: 5
Coaches Comments: Feel Gibbs alone is worth 4, and the additions of the picks do not adequately justify the worth of GAJ + Shaw.
Admin comments: Right. So, with 5 votes, this trade has passed, with me having the power to overturn it if I disagree with the outcome enough. I think historically, Pick 4 has attracted players of all different shapes and sizes in a trade. Whether that is Fiorini, Parish, Ebert, Cotchin, part-way to Parker... I think Gibbs fits within this category. I feel comfortable valuing Gibbs at Pick 4 for the purposes of this trade. In terms of Gary Ablett's value, well, he played 18 games this year at 106. Last year, we saw Goddard go for Pick 16, Kade Simpson for 24 & Hrovat, Deledio for18... older high end premos around the late-teens mark. Sure GAJ is on limited time, but so were all those players, and GAJ is well... GAJ, even an old one. Heath Shaw averaged 90 this year in defence, and based on say, Simpson last year, should at least be worth a pick in the 20s. Sorry guys, I'm overturning this one.
Verdict: REJECTED
Advice: What I feel this trade lacks is a tangible player from PNL to demonstrate the 'downgrade' of Gibbs, GAJ & Shaw to a long term replacement. Picks beyond 20 are hard to measure, whereas you know what you'd be getting with say, a Jack Lonie. That's not to say Jack Lonie would fix this trade, but Christchurch just need to be better compensated with the loss of firepower, with just any firepower in return... a clear trajectory from a player established in the AFL to measure against. I feel a player replacing Pick 49 would help this trade pass, or perhaps the removal of Heath Shaw or GAJ.
Trade 23
Christchurch trade: Pick 13
Buenos Aires trade: Shane Edwards
Votes: 1
Coaches Comments: *redacted for anonymity*
Admin comments: Feelin titchy.
Verdict: PASS
Is 14 a new record?
Kind of wish I negged the Preuss trade now to get it up to 15.
Stepho available for Danger, Tmitch, Kelly, Oliver, or Macrae
I implore all teams to cease trading with Dublin. They have no depth. They won't be able to win next season with their current list. If you trade a player to them then you're an absolute cow.
What's going on folks?
I can't recall ever seeing WXV this dead, especially during a trade period!
The only logical explanation for the lack of activity is that everyone is happy with their teams, and that has to be BS because most of us are not in a position to win a flag so we should be looking to improve and that generally requires trading
Or has the novelty worn off? Are people losing interest in the comp?
We don't have heaps of elite prems we can offer, but we've got plenty of guys who are capable of starting for most clubs so check out the Team By Position thread and let me know if we have anything you like
I think the issue we're having is that most coaches only seem to want to get the absolute best players from another club, and of course not pay up anything of significance themselves. Nothing wrong with trading for some solid D3/4 M4 F3/4 U1/2 capable players etc
There's plenty of teams with dicey cover, and we know injuries occur all the time so check out team lists and lets try and get things kicking into gear here! :D
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 03, 2018, 11:27:20 AM
I think the issue we're having is that most coaches only seem to want to get the absolute best players from another club, and of course not pay up anything of significance themselves.
Tell me about it. This happened to me when a coach wanted my best player, have covered up their name for anonymity.
(https://i.imgur.com/E98tejn.png)
Quote from: GoLions on October 03, 2018, 12:08:12 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 03, 2018, 11:27:20 AM
I think the issue we're having is that most coaches only seem to want to get the absolute best players from another club, and of course not pay up anything of significance themselves.
Tell me about it. This happened to me when a coach wanted my best player, have covered up their name for anonymity.
(https://i.imgur.com/E98tejn.png)
Nice Censor of the name.
No idea who that is
Um, all I did was ask a question, and then responded to your statement
I didn't make you a silly offer or anything
Another poor GL attempt at humour. It's just not your thing man :P
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 03, 2018, 12:17:18 PM
Um, all I did was ask a question, and then responded to your statement
I didn't make you a silly offer or anything
Umm i never even said who it was
Quote from: GoLions on October 03, 2018, 12:18:25 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 03, 2018, 12:17:18 PM
Um, all I did was ask a question, and then responded to your statement
I didn't make you a silly offer or anything
Umm i never even said who it was
was probably HP or Daz
We've managed to bring in some quality youth over the past 12-24 months, and maybe it's the boredom talking but I am considering going full rebuild because I think we have the core to do it, and we can bounce back up sooner rather than later
DEF: Jordan Lewis, Pearce Hanley, Robbie Tarrant
MID: Richie Douglas
RUC: Paddy Ryder
FWD: Justin Westhoff, Josh J Kennedy, Jarryd Roughead, Eddie Betts, Ben Reid
Most of these guys are proven starters
We'd want good youth with potential, younger players or picks in return
Hit me up with what you want and what you can offer
Any team challenging should be interested in some of these guys
Could really build a forward line around Toby Greene. JJK + something good will get it done. Cut in a 3rd team for the something good part because I don't want Greenwood.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 03, 2018, 12:17:18 PM
Another poor GL attempt at humour. It's just not your thing man :P
Haha geez thats a long way off tbf. You just got roasted!
Quote from: elephants on October 03, 2018, 01:33:59 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 03, 2018, 12:17:18 PM
Another poor GL attempt at humour. It's just not your thing man :P
Haha geez thats a long way off tbf. You just got roasted!
Yeah, I asked what he would need for Duncan. I got roasted big time there :o
Eh, I've made 2 trades, I'm doing my bit
I will just post here as well that August to mid October I have a very busy time outside of FF and do not have the time during that period to analyse and ask for trades. Do come into the forum just to check and respond during this time.
London may be asking a few questions after next weekend when the last of my round of AGMs and meetings is complete.
Koop and I are pretty happy with where Beijing's list sits at the moment but if anyone is keen to get involved, this is how we see our list - hit either of us up if interested!
Moveable (cap bois)
Tom Clurey, Easton Wood, Nathan Broad, Roarke Smith, Emmanuel Irra, Patrick McKenna
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Aaron Black, Kym Lebois
Moveable for the right price
Tom Jonas, Marcus Adams, Brandon Ellis, Tom Cutler, James Aish, Jackson Thurlow, Sam Mayes, Jayden Hunt, Ciaran Byrne, Francis Watson, Tom Williamson
Ollie Wines, Dayne Zorko, Kane Lambert, Tom Rockliff, Daniel Howe, Bradley Hill, Will Powell, Patrick Wilson
Callum Coleman-Jones
Josh Caddy, Taylor Walker, Daniel Rioli, Matt Guelfi, Daniel Butler, Jordan Houlahan, Liam Baker, Sam Switkowski, Tyson Stengle, Kane Farrell, Callum Porter, Jackson Ross
Don't bother
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Lachie Neale, Callan Ward
Brodie Grundy, Mason Cox
Luke Breust
Obviously some of the moveable for the right price crew are harder to move than others. Probably looking for defenders more than anything else!
Alright, that's enough for now. Time to move on I think :)
For anyone who has asked about Hoff or Hanley, they are about to be traded, so consider this your notice. If you want to discuss them further and beat the offer let me know, otherwise we're trading them
Late to the party...
Above the belt please. Enough of that.
Blicavs > Danger confirmed. Get your offers in now.
Jordan Lewis and Robbie Tarrant gone
The Hoff, JJK and Roughy could be out the door by tonight
That just leaves Betts, Richie Douglas and possibly Hanley and Henderson as the remaining guys to move
The rebuild is real
Get your offers in!
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2018, 03:48:46 PM
Jordan Lewis and Robbie Tarrant gone
The Hoff, JJK and Roughy could be out the door by tonight
That just leaves Betts, Richie Douglas and possibly Hanley and Henderson as the remaining guys to move
The rebuild is real
Get your offers in!
Half a bag of 2011 Toobs?
Quote from: Koop on October 05, 2018, 03:59:43 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2018, 03:48:46 PM
Jordan Lewis and Robbie Tarrant gone
The Hoff, JJK and Roughy could be out the door by tonight
That just leaves Betts, Richie Douglas and possibly Hanley and Henderson as the remaining guys to move
The rebuild is real
Get your offers in!
Half a bag of 2011 Toobs?
2 bags
1 each for AK and I
Quote from: meow meow on October 02, 2018, 01:14:02 PM
I implore all teams to cease trading with Dublin. They have no depth. They won't be able to win next season with their current list. If you trade a player to them then you're an absolute cow.
Could not agree with you more
Wait so a 29 year old 96 average mid is worth pick 4
But 90 + fwd are worth even less ::)
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Quote from: DazBurg on October 05, 2018, 07:37:11 PM
Wait so a 29 year old 96 average mid is worth pick 4
But 90 + fwd are worth even less ::)
They are when they're nearly 32 years old
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2018, 11:46:28 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on October 05, 2018, 07:37:11 PM
Wait so a 29 year old 96 average mid is worth pick 4
But 90 + fwd are worth even less ::)
They are when they're nearly 32 years old
Toby Greene is 32 already? :o
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 05, 2018, 11:48:14 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2018, 11:46:28 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on October 05, 2018, 07:37:11 PM
Wait so a 29 year old 96 average mid is worth pick 4
But 90 + fwd are worth even less ::)
They are when they're nearly 32 years old
Toby Greene is 32 already? :o
Hah, I thought it was referencing JJK lol
If Gibbs is worth Pick 4, then I would think JJK + Preuss + 18 is worth more than 4, therefor fair value for Greene for meow, and Holz paying up Pick 9 + Preuss is also fair
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 22, 2018, 10:32:12 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 15, 2018, 01:03:14 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 08, 2018, 03:45:31 PM
WXV Draft Order & Player Lists (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,112123.0.html) and spreadsheet have been updated with the confirmed trades
Better late than never! To make up for my delay, I've now included ALL of the players ages in the spreadsheet.
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 06, 2018, 01:13:10 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 22, 2018, 10:32:12 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 15, 2018, 01:03:14 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 08, 2018, 03:45:31 PM
WXV Draft Order & Player Lists (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,112123.0.html) and spreadsheet have been updated with the confirmed trades
Better late than never! To make up for my delay, I've now included ALL of the players ages in the spreadsheet.
the holy bible is back!! ;D
Shane Savage, Dylan Roberton and Nick Vlastuin all available for a starting forward and/or mid.
Younger options include Bailey Rice, Dan McKenzie and Brandon White. Potentially available as a package if you're interested.
Corey Ellis moving to Gold Coast for more opportunity, so you could get him for a decent price.
Serviceable forward depth on the menu? Jeff Garlett, Mav Weller, Jason Castagna, Paul Puopolo, Shane Kersten, Lincoln McCarthy, Brendan Whitecross all on the table.
Karl Amon's moving back to Victoria for more opportunity, so why not give him an opportunity also? How about Myles Poholke? Showed signs last year, should build on that next year. Or maybe Corey Lyons might be the next young Lions mid to crack the side and you want on before he breaks out.
All picks up for grabs as well apart from our first and second round nat picks, and our first round PSD and rookie picks.
Quote from: Nige on October 06, 2018, 03:59:08 PM
Shane Savage, Dylan Roberton and Nick Vlastuin all available for a starting forward and/or mid.
Younger options include Bailey Rice, Dan McKenzie and Brandon White. Potentially available as a package if you're interested.
Corey Ellis moving to Gold Coast for more opportunity, so you could get him for a decent price.
Serviceable forward depth on the menu? Jeff Garlett, Mav Weller, Jason Castagna, Paul Puopolo, Shane Kersten, Lincoln McCarthy, Brendan Whitecross all on the table.
Karl Amon's moving back to Victoria for more opportunity, so why not give him an opportunity also? How about Myles Poholke? Showed signs last year, should build on that next year. Or maybe Corey Lyons might be the next young Lions mid to crack the side and you want on before he breaks out.
All picks up for grabs as well apart from our first and second round nat picks, and our first round PSD and rookie picks.
Whatcha want for ur first rookie pick?
All our rookie picks are available too
In fact, you can have them all for your last NAT pick!
Jake Melksham looks destined to move with a nice offer on the table. If you're interested in the 27-year-old forward, get in touch sooner rather than later. Doesn't have a huge asking price, willing to take a punt on an untried kid.
Dylan Roberton, Nick Vlastuin, Lincoln McCarthy, N8, Corey Lyons, Will Snelling and Myles Poholke have all got some interest since my last post went up.
A combination of them possibly on the move in a deal or two, so if you wanna make an enquiry, get in while you can.
Blake Acres could be on the move; get your offers in if you have an interest!
If anyone has a forward/s who is good enough to start, and is aged under 30, then hit me up
70+ avg will be considered, and needs to be best 22
Keen on defenders.
Can offer a starter for a starter in return, or our N25/kids for a similar valued backman.
Beijing also on the lookout for a starting defender.
Guys like Wines, Caddy etc. can be talked about if it gets us what we need. :)
Webster, Macmillan, Hooker and possibly Doedee all available for vary prices if you are after defenders
Holz pls
Even with all the pleads.
Majak Daw is not available for trade.
Teams still to vote:
- Mexico City
- Pacific
- Toronto
These trade have received 0 votes so far, so will auto-pass:
Trade 24
Berlin trade: Ryan Bastinac + PSD Pick 11
Buenos Aires trade: PSD Pick 5
Trade 25
Berlin trade: Harry McKay + Pick 41
Christchurch trade: Pick 24 + Pick 29
Trade 30
Toronto trade: Kade Kolodjashnij + Ryan Clarke
Moscow trade: Rowan Marshall + Pick 26
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Even with all the pleads.
Majak Daw is not available for trade.
flower, i really need another defender as well. Back to the drawing board.
The 3 approved trades have been updated in the Lists By Position thread
As for the remaining trades..
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One more team left to vote.
The following trades (in addition to the above) have received 2 or less votes, so will auto-pass
Trade 26
New York trade: Reece Conca, Jordan Lewis, Robbie Tarrant + Pick 47
Cape Town trade: Pick 19 + Pick 20
Trade 31
Toronto trade: Tom Bellchambers, Matthew Leuenberger + Alex Pearce
Moscow trade: Matthew Kreuzer, Andrew Phillips + Shai Bolton
Oh whoops, this one is fine too:
Trade 28
Berlin trade: Pick 11 + Pick 48
New York trade: Justin Westhoff + Jarryd Roughead
Of the two remaining trades:
Trade 27
New York trade: Josh J Kennedy + Pick 19
New York receive: Pick 9 + Pick 41
Dublin trade: Braydon Preuss. Pick 9 + Pick 18
Dublin receive: Toby Greene + Pick 19
Christchurch trade: Toby Greene + Pick 41
Christchurch receive: Josh J Kennedy, Braydon Preuss + Pick 18
Votes: 4
Coaches comments: Questioned the value of Preuss, and that he was not worth the difference between Toby Green & Pick 9.
Admin comments: I choose to look at it like Preuss for 19 (which you could justify), and Pick 9 + 18 for Greene. We've seen in the past that defenders/forwards about Greene's age has gone for that price in the past... so not unreasonable enough for me to overturn the decision.
Verdict: PASS
Trade 29
Buenos Aires trade: Sam Draper
Moscow trade: Sam Jacobs + Luke Partington
Votes: 8
Coaches comments: Did not at all think Draper has the currency to demand a starting ruck in Sam Jacobs, pointed to the fact Draper has not played beyond VFL level yet and that there was still Bellchambers to contend with.
Admin comments: Well yeah. I can understand how this trade came about, but agree with the coaches.
Verdict: REJECTED
All other trades have passed.
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Time to Kick the competition into submission.
Very happy to pick up my F3/F4. Putting alot of faith in Xerri/Pittonent some hopefully one of them comes good. Saints loading up in the rucks.
That's payback for Nic Newman coming in as a late change and scoring 151 against you last year :P
Looking to move these guys on for a pick or mid depth. Can package with picks.
Alex Morgan, Ryan Burrows, Timothy Smith, Luke Strnadica, Derek Smith, Ben McNiece, Kayne Turner
Ha, wow. I got 8 votes last night between 8.30 and 10.30
*noted for future reference*
For those who have expressed interest in pick 1 already, could be gone by tonight.
Quote from: GoLions on October 16, 2018, 11:23:02 AM
For those who have expressed interest in pick 1 already, could be gone by tonight.
What are you trading 1 for?
Any more thoughts on the Caleb proposal?
Shane Edwards 87 average forward
Shaun Grigg 80 average mid (previously 88, 93, 91)
Tom Scully 19 average mid (previously 88, 97, 84)
David Swallow 89 average mid (previously 85, 86, 103)
Stephen Hill 72 average def (previously 80, 90, 96, 96)
Willing to package up two or possibly even 3 of these guys if a suitable deal presents itself.
Teams still to vote:
- New Delhi
Following trades have received 2 negs or less, so will auto-pass
Trade 32
New York trade: Hugh Greenwood + Pick 22
Cairo trade: Shane Savage, Maverick Weller + Pick 45
Trade 33
Beijing trade: Pick 53
Rio de Janeiro trade: Kyron Hayden
Trade 34
Christchurch trade: Pick 18
Tokyo trade: Sam Lloyd
Trade 35
Tokyo trade: Pick 12 + Pick 64
New Delhi trade: Tom McCartin, Matthew Ling + Pick 25
Trade 37
New York trade: Pick 48
Cape Town trade: Kieren Jack
Trade gets passed and the very next day Weller gets delisted lol
Only need his cap, but now we're back under cap because of that haha :-[
Apologies for delay.
I'll do the official stuff later, but the Jacobs trade got 5 votes, and I'll be letting it pass, giving the coaches the benefit of the doubt.
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Carlton: Sam Rowe, Jed Lamb, Sam Kerridge & Nick Graham have been delisted
:'(
We're open to trading Pick 11 or 20 if it gets us a MID, FWD or RUC good enough to start, and must have decent cap attached (Can't be too old either)
If you're interested, let me know
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Also, trade period end date has been set.
Finish date: 10:00:00 pm AEDST, 18th November
This is a Sunday. I'll send votes out Monday, with the hope any rejected deals will be known by Wednesday 21st. Those trades will have the opportunity to be re-negotiated, and MUST be submitted before Thursday, 22nd at 7pm AEDST (the start of the AFL National draft).
Final AFL List Lodgements are on the 27th of November. Your WXV List Lodgements will be due after that date.
The WXV Draft will commence once all list lodgements have been submitted, and I have worked out the final draft order. This, at the very earliest, will be the night of the 28th of November, depending on how quickly you submit your list lodgement, and how quickly I can process them.
Obviously not gospel, just a few writers opinions, but handy to reference just to see who you might have as best 22 players next year
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-10-20/your-clubs-best-22-for-2019
I know there's a few players who coaches seem to rate highly, yet might not even be best 22 moving forward, ourselves included
25 best 22 players at Church.
Meaning an average of 21.82 best 22 players at other clubs.
May as well just hand me the cup now.
B: Andews, Shaw, McVeigh, Langdon
M: Ablett, Curnow, Higgins, Gibbs
R: Sandilands
F: Reid, Edwards, Kennedy, Lloyd
I: Murphy, Swallow
B: Stephen Hill, McKenna, Richards, Moore, Lewis Young, Cedric, Morris, Schumacher
M: Scully, Grigg, Wills, Tyler Brown
R: Darcy, Boyd, Preuss
F: Stringer, Harry McKay, Wells, Will Walker, Cox, Daniels, Daicos, Stewart, Dickson, Pickett, Honeychurch, Buckley
Quote from: meow meow on October 21, 2018, 04:11:32 PM
25 best 22 players at Church.
Meaning an average of 21.82 best 22 players at other clubs.
May as well just hand me the cup now.
Also got 25 according to that article, somehow.
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Quote from: meow meow on October 21, 2018, 04:11:32 PM
25 best 22 players at Church.
Meaning an average of 21.82 best 22 players at other clubs.
May as well just hand me the cup now.
Also got 25 according to that article, somehow.
Only 18 for us :'(
18 for us, but they've left out Libba (due to contract) so should be 19 really
Kieran Jack, Ben Reid and Logan Austin left out too, but I reckon their fair chances of playing regularly
Pretty good considering we're in a rebuild phase - I'll take it
Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 21, 2018, 07:29:48 PM
Only 18 for us :'(
Maybe you'll stop overvaluing guys like Sinclair now :P
Surely Tom Bell is best 22? ???
Mitch Lewis named in Hawks Best 22 seems a bit ambitious
sheridan delisted, damn, we could be tight with cap too now if the rest don't get resigned
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 21, 2018, 09:58:11 PM
Mitch Lewis named in Hawks Best 22 seems a bit ambitious
perhaps but was pretty solid in the VFL, just looked a little undersized on the ALF level.
With Roughy on his last legs and Gunston not a stay at home forward there is certainly a spot for him to win in the side.
I expect him to play a handful of games but dont think he will be a lock 22 yet.
second attempt at a rebuild coming up. Take your pick...
Shaw, McVeigh, Hill, Morris
Ablett, Curnow, Higgins, Murphy, Swallow, Scully, Grigg
Sandilands, Boyd
Stringer, JJK, Edwards, Lloyd, Reid, Wells, Stewart, Moore, Dickson
Three teams to vote:
- London
- Moscow
- Seoul
The following trades have received zero votes, so will auto-pass:
Trade 38
Toronto trade: Jake Melksham + Jarrod Garlett
Cairo trade: Corey Lyons + Myles Poholke
Trade 40
New York trade: Pick 45 + Pick 83
Cairo trade: Shane Kersten, Sam Kerridge, Paul Puopolo +Pick 49
Trade 42
Rio de Janeiro trade: Pick 61
Cairo trade: Karl Amon
Trade 43
New York trade: Pick 40
Moscow trade: Jack Watts :-*
2 votes left, this one shall pass too
Trade 41
Christchurch trade: Ryan Abbott + Pick 67
Moscow trade: Shaun Grigg + Jarrod Pickett
1 vote left, but all trades will now auto-pass
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N12 is available. After a defender ideally but willing to look at other positions
Can add more to the pick of needed
Harris Andrews, Callum Mills, Jake Carlisle, Jordan Lewis, Jack Bowes, Mark Blicavs, Luke McDonald, Reece Conca, Jasper Pittard, Griffin Logue, Sam Collins
Looking for another defender. May also take any other position but we'll see.
Here's a random observation
Coaches who use discord are much easier to talk trades with - maybe it's the fact that you can get to know them better and talk in real time
Coaches who don't use discord are much harder to deal with, and some have insane expectations
Maybe it's just a coincidence ;)
JB isn't on discord and he's easy to trade with. Just offer him overs like two first round draft picks for Tom Langdon or picks 8 and 28 for Tom Boyd and deals get done.
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JB isn't on discord and he's easy to trade with. Just offer him overs like two first round draft picks for Tom Langdon or picks 8 and 28 for Tom Boyd and deals get done.
That's pretty much the case for Toga, UTM and Jroo too. :P
Will also just say, as it has come up a couple times now, that the State League pick-ups ala Corbett and Kreuger will be available in the International draft, not the PSD.
Dublin 170k over the cap so will definitely be seeking to package two of theirs with cap for one.
Don't do it folks, make them have to delist someone so they run out of players. Only got 20 at the moment and will have to either cut a gun, or 2+ depth players which they're already low on.
Even if they delist Lids they'll still be over cap. It's going to have to be Phil Davis or Brad Crouch. Or a couple of spuds like Omac + EVW, which is more likely. But will only add to their depth problem.
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Dublin 170k over the cap so will definitely be seeking to package two of theirs with cap for one.
Don't do it folks, make them have to delist someone so they run out of players. Only got 20 at the moment and will have to either cut a gun, or 2+ depth players which they're already low on.
Even if they delist Lids they'll still be over cap. It's going to have to be Phil Davis or Brad Crouch. Or a couple of spuds like Omac + EVW, which is more likely. But will only add to their depth problem.
Someone will trade with them, probably Christchurch.
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Dublin 170k over the cap so will definitely be seeking to package two of theirs with cap for one.
Don't do it folks, make them have to delist someone so they run out of players. Only got 20 at the moment and will have to either cut a gun, or 2+ depth players which they're already low on.
Even if they delist Lids they'll still be over cap. It's going to have to be Phil Davis or Brad Crouch. Or a couple of spuds like Omac + EVW, which is more likely. But will only add to their depth problem.
Someone will trade with them, probably Christchurch.
Haha hey I traded Greene to them to further screw their cap, and to take Preuss so they have very limited ruck cover. It'll pay off when spud Greene spuds again, Preuss becomes the NN to Gawn's Cox, and Goldy misses round 22 next season.
meow: don’t trade with Dublin and let them flower themselves
Torp: hold my juicebox
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meow: don’t trade with Dublin and let them flower themselves
Torp: hold my juicebox
Well now im in trouble according to meow with my "massive lack of depth"
Ah yes, as pointed out to me just now, this trade:
Trade 48
Cape Town trade: PSD Pick 73
Christchurch trade: Jack Frost
is auto-negged, as you can't trade retired players.
Teams left to vote:
- Cairo Sands
- London Royals
- New Delhi Tigers
- Pacific Islanders
- Rio de Janeiro Jaguars
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 31, 2018, 09:18:23 PM
Ah yes, as pointed out to me just now, this trade:
Trade 48
Cape Town trade: PSD Pick 73
Christchurch trade: Jack Frost
is auto-negged, as you can't trade retired players.
Teams left to vote:
- Cairo Sands
- London Royals
- New Delhi Tigers
- Pacific Islanders
- Rio de Janeiro Jaguars
Well now my defence is flowered
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Frost wasn't retired at the time of the trade being posted and confirmed. That pick is mine you flowering cheats!
Two and a bit weeks to go flowerers.
3 coaches left to vote... but all received no negs, so all trades auto-pass
(except that one above)
Daz has convinced me that pick 1 is no longer on the table. It's been mentioned in negotiations with multiple coaches but I'll knock them all on the head right now.
Get your BEST offer(s) in for Gibbs, will probably be gone by tonight. Yes, that means you too JB.
Happy to trade any of these guys for a pick
David Amitage (95 average in the second half of the year)
Cale Hooker 77 average this year, got 3 years to run on his contract
Chris Mayne
Can trade almost any of my starting players for the right pick now i have a bit of extra cap
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Looking for cap space still can offer picks and also players with less cap
Need cap? Need to cut cap? Options galore, and I'm right in the sweet spot so can easily move either way.
Bryce Gibbs
Ed Curnow
Heath Shaw
Shaun Higgins
Marc Murphy
Tom Scully
Josh J Kennedy
Robbie Tarrant
Stephen Hill
Shane Edwards
David Swallow
Jake Stringer
Phil Davis
Daniel Wells
Tom Langdon
Conor McKenna
Aaron Sandilands
Sam Lloyd
Sam B Reid
Darcy Moore
Tom Boyd
Sean Darcy
James Stewart
Brennan Cox
Jack Henry
Tory Dickson
Harry McKay
Ed Richards
Paddy dow
Dale Morris
Josh Daicos
Zac Bailey
Dylan Buckley
Jarrod Pickett
Lewis Young
Braydon Preuss
Will Walker
Brent Daniels
Tyler Brown
Rupert Wills
Angus Schumacher
Pick 20
Pick 91
PSD 19
PSD 36
PSD 66
PSD 84
PSD 90
Jarrad Waite
Ryan Griffen
Rohan Bewick
Mitch Honeychurch
Clay Smith
Ty Vickery
Jimmy Toumpas
Jack Frost
Lachlan Filipovic
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$610,000
$506,000
$432,000
$410,000
$401,000
$378,000
$378,000
$364,000
$347,000
$327,000
$326,000
$286,000
$278,000
$267,000
$261,000
$238,000
$230,000
$222,000
$219,000
$201,000
$190,000
$188,000
$188,000
$169,000
$166,000
$161,000
$159,000
$158,000
$155,000
$155,000
$136,000
$120,000
$118,000
$109,000
$100,000
$100,000
$100,000
$100,000
$100,000
$100,000
$100,000
$100,000
$100,000
$100,000
$9,853,000
$100,000
$100,000
$100,000
$100,000
$275,000
$221,000
$175,000
$165,000
$155,000
$151,000
$140,000
$124,000
$100,000
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Was offered 41 for Heath Shaw. What a shower offer.
12 days to go.
Are we done? Getting into insignificant pick swaps so it looks like it.
Church premiership favourites at the moment.
1. J Patton
3. D Tyson
6. M Buntine
7. B Longer
16. L Sumner
17. B McKenzie
19. J Bootsma
20. C Smith
22. E Kavanagh
24. T Elton
25. M Grigg
26. S Kersten
27. H Crozier
28. T Sheridan
29. S Kerridge
30. H Schade
31. O Stephenson
32. J Lockyer
35. J Hamling
36. J Merrett
37. S Rowe
38. M Newman
39. M Talia
40. D Markworth
41. J Paine
42. D Buckley
43. D Pearce
44. T Dickson
45. F McInnes
Twenty-nine out of 45 failures. A few might be or have been best XV quality but none of them are as valuable as the price paid for them, based on how people are valuing their draft picks.
2. Jimmy Toumpas
4. Jesse Lonergan
8. Troy Menzel
12. Kristian Jaksch
13. Ben Kennedy
14. Sam Mayes
16. Jonathan O'Rourke
18. Nathan Hrovat
PP 19. Jackson Thurlow
20. Dean Towers
22. Timothy Broomhead
23. Josh Simpson
24. Lachlan Plowman
25. Taylor Garner
26. Tom Lee
28. Tom Clurey
29. Nathan Wright
32. Marco Paparone
33. Spencer White
34. Aidan Corr
35. Brodie Murdoch
36. Dominic Barry
37. Matthew McDonough
38. Dean Terlich
39. Mason Shaw
41. Liam McBean
42. Jake Neade
43. Dylan van Unen
44. Matt Jones
45. Adam Selwood
More quality right here. Even better this year, 30 players who failed to live up to their draft position. Those 8 first round picks are supreme, wouldn't have wanted to trade them away for established stars.
1. Thomas Boyd
2. James Aish
4. Kade Kolodjashnij
5. Luke McDonald
9. Ben Lennon
14. Dayle Garlett
15. Cameron McCarthy
17. Nathan Freeman
18. Blake Acres
23. Jarman Impey
25. Darcy Lang
26. Mitch Honeychurch
28. Taylor Duryea
29. Nick Robertson
30. Will Hartung
32. Riley Knight
33. Marco Paparone
34. Matt Fuller
35. Michael Apeness
36. Jared Jansen
37. Jake Kolodjashnij
39. PASS
40. Jay Kennedy-Harris
41. Mitchell Harvey
44. Lloyd Perris
45. Matthew Jaensch
Just the 26 duds this time around. I was probably a bit more lenient and giving a couple of others more time to prove their worth.
So basically 63% of picks will be duds. Good luck to the coaches hitting the draft hard, you will definitely get the next Bont, and will definitely dodge the next Willem Drew.
TL;DR 63% of AFL players are SC duds
Ground breaking
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TL;DR 63% of AFL players are SC duds
Ground breaking
Close.
But you're going to waste picks 9 and 11 on duds is a better summary.
Would you prefer Callum Sinclair or Ben Lennon?
Would you prefer Menegoat or Ben Kennedy?
Would you prefer Harris Andrews or Jimmy Toumpas?
Would you prefer Abbott or Liam Sumner?
Well I got Sinclair with PSD 11, Menegola with Rookie 50, Harris with Rookie 36, Abbott with Rookie 28.
PSD picks 36, 66, 84, 90 all available, I'll swap all of them for just one first round national pick since I am a superior drafter and could probably get someone decent despite the odds.
Last chance to get your offers in for Gibbs, will be traded to Buenos Aires if there's no other offers incoming soon.
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Would you prefer Callum Sinclair or Ben Lennon?
Would you prefer Menegoat or Ben Kennedy?
Would you prefer Harris Andrews or Jimmy Toumpas?
Would you prefer Abbott or Liam Sumner?
Well I got Sinclair with PSD 11, Menegola with Rookie 50, Harris with Rookie 36, Abbott with Rookie 28.
PSD picks 36, 66, 84, 90 all available, I'll swap all of them for just one first round national pick since I am a superior drafter and could probably get someone decent despite the odds.
Ill move all my psd picks and pick 19 for pick 13 that way you get to pick up all the guns
Ugh, I feel dirty for suggesting this, but anyone want Jack Viney? I want two midfielders. Possible combinations include:
- Dinosaur + decent starter.
- young player + young player
- young player + decent starter
- young player + dinosaur
I reserve the right to be picky.
Ablett, Murphy, Higgo, Shaw, Sandi, Hill, JJK, Edwards... Maybe even Scully or Curnow. Come and get them.
Im miles above cap for the first time, happy to package 2 players for 1
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Pick 1? Pick 19? Pick 20? I can barely decide what type of cereal to have each morning, let alone which kids I'm gonna take at all these picks! Get them off of me!
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Jasper Pittard, Jake Carlisle, Jack Bowes, Josh Smith, Joel Amartey. That's too many defenders starting with a J. Will need to consult with RD first on how to approach this one, but someone has to go.
I'm a man of my word.
Three teams left to vote:
Moscow Spetsnaz
Pacific Islanders
Seoul Magpies
Following trades auto-pass:
Trade 51 (pending 50)
Dublin trade: Pick 44 + Pick 55
Cairo trade: Pick 61, Pick 63, Pick 81 + Pick 83
Trade 56
Christchurch trade: Gary Ablett Jnr
Buenos Aires trade: Pick 20
Trade 57
Christchurch trade: Pick 1
Buenos Aires trade: Paddy Dow
Trade 58
Dublin trade: Jack Henry, Phil Davis + PSD Pick 36
Christchurch trade: Jarrad McVeigh + PSD Pick 10
Are you saying that 85 for 91 and psd90 got at least 1 neg...?
Hopefully was just someone taking the piss haha
96
120
88
122
62
-
123
103
76
92
127
123
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123
113
111
109
92
92
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79
83
130
WXV Conclusion: undesirable.
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Trade 58
Dublin trade: Jack Henry, Phil Davis + PSD Pick 36
Christchurch trade: Jarrad McVeigh + PSD Pick 10
This trade cannot pass yet as PSD 10 comes from us in Trade 52 which is yet to have passed
In the last week I've had people enquire about; Harris Andrews, Mark Blicavs, Jordan Lewis, Jasper Pittard, Callum Mills, Luke McDonald, Reece Conca, Aaron Mullett, Cam O'Shea, Josh Smith, Jake Carlisle, Jack Bowes, Griffen Logue, Cam Sutcliffe, Cedric Cox, Will Schofield, Nathan Drummond, Zac Guthrie, Angus Styles
My defence is pretty thin atm, but who knows, I might actually trade one or two
What do you want for Sutcliffe?
Two teams to go:
Moscow
Pacific
All trades auto-pass except for these two:
Trade 54
Cape Town trade: PSD Pick 73
Christchurch trade: Dylan Buckley + PSD Pick 66
Trade 55
Cape Town trade: PSD Pick 66
Christchurch trade: PSD Pick 84
Wouldn't mind grabbing a defender if anyone has one they can move
Not looking for a prem starter, but if they're 70+, or even avg lower but young then I'd be interested
Must be best 22 though
Pick 37 on the table, and might be able to add something else if need be
Bit of an update from Beijing.
Wines is still on the table if we can add to our defensive stocks with a reliable option, or improve our ammunition to acquire said stocks through other avenues. We are by no means though throwing him out the door, so keep that in mind. He has just turned 24 after all, we're very happy to keep him if so be it. ;)
Bradley Hill & Kane Lambert are both available for a similar-capacity forward for those chasing added midfield numbers, or as earlier, ammunition that gets us what we need through other avenues.
As always, send either Toga or myself a message & we'll try and get something done this week!
All votes in.
Trade 54
Cape Town trade: PSD Pick 73
Christchurch trade: Dylan Buckley + PSD Pick 66
Trade 55
Cape Town trade: PSD Pick 66
Christchurch trade: PSD Pick 84
Trade 54 got 3 votes, so it auto-passed. Trade 55 got 4 votes.
Obviously, I'm going to neg Trade 55. What I'm actually going to do, is merge these trades to be:
Trade 54
Cape Town trade: PSD Pick 73
Christchurch trade: Dylan Buckley + PSD Pick 84
... and let that pass.
From now on, I'm not going to waste time with those kinda trades guys, I'm just not gonna post them.
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What I'm actually going to do, is merge these trades
I'm surprised you didn't do that to begin with considering that they only posted like that for showers and giggles
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What I'm actually going to do, is merge these trades
I'm surprised you didn't do that to begin with considering that they only posted like that for showers and giggles
Was kinda hoping the community would neg it :-X
JJK
Shaw
Higgins
Had discussions about these guys and all three are looking reasonably likely, however I can only trade 2 of the three due to cap. The race is on lads, get in quick if you don't want 3rd place.
Still keen on a bit of defence depth. Have later picks/PSD picks
Certainly not stars, but should be best 22 so could be handy depth
We can possibly move 1 of these players, and remain above the min cap
Happy to take a NAT Pick, but if it's a super late pick (Eg 80+) then we'd probably just keep the player for depth
Taylor Duryea (DEF)
Paul Puopolo (FWD)
Ben Reid (FWD/DEF)
So what you're saying is N77 may be enough :P.
Quote from: Hellopplz on November 13, 2018, 12:37:00 PM
So what you're saying is N77 may be enough :P.
As a starting point ;)
Looks like we've sorted something out so those 3 are no longer available
For those needing a starting defender could offer up 80 ave Jarryn Geary. Can chuck in 26/PSD3 too to get me a mid or youngster I like
Three teams left to vote:
- Beijing
- Moscow
- Seoul
Following trades will auto-pass
Trade 59
Toronto trade: Pick 51
Christchurch trade: Angus Schumacher
Trade 61
PNL trade: Pick 59
Cape Town trade: Joel Amartey
Trade 62
New York trade: Jamie Elliott, Pick 9 + Pick 41
Seoul trade: Ed Phillips, Willie Rioli, Taylor Duryea, Pick 5 + Pick 50
Trade 63
New York trade: Shane Savage
New Delhi trade: Pick 12
Trade 64
New York trade: Pick 50
Buenos Aires trade: Mitch W Brown + Pick 60
Trade 65
Christchurch trade: PSD Pick 36
Cape Town trade: Cameron Sutcliffe
Trade 66
Cape Town trade: Pick 47 + Pick 48
London trade: Shaun Burgoyne + Pick 75
Trade 69
Buenos Aires trade: Chris Mayne
Christchurch: Rupert Wills
Trade 70
New York trade: Lachlan Murphy + PSD Pick 12
PNL trade: PSD Pick 4 + PSD Pick 22
Trade 71
PNL trade: Pick 30
Christchurch trade: Darcy Moore
Trade 73
Toronto trade: Pick 17
Christchurch trade: Gary Ablett Jnr
Trade 75
PNL trade: Matthew Lobbe + PSD Pick 12
Toronto trade: Nick Robertson + Nick Shipley
73 will be dependent on 60 though so not yet an autopass.
Just Moscow left to vote
All trades have auto-passed except for:
Trade 72
Berlin trade: Mason Redman
Toronto trade: David Mundy + Myles Poholke
Keen to explore upgrading Angus Brayshaw or Jack Steven. If you'd be interested in either of these guys (plus the additional pieces) then let us know
How the flower do you upgrade Brayshaw?
Quote from: meow meow on November 14, 2018, 01:43:13 PM
How the flower do you upgrade Brayshaw?
You're right. He's the goat. Please disregard that I mentioned him
If anyone needs a ruckman Hickey or Longer Pierce could still be moved on
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 14, 2018, 08:21:26 AM
Trade 72
Berlin trade: Mason Redman
Toronto trade: David Mundy + Myles Poholke
This trade received 4 votes.
The consensus was that Redman did not have the resume' behind him to warrant a starter in Mundy.
To re-iterate, if a trade receives either 4 or 5 votes, the trade passes, with the admin having the power to overturn it to rejection.
I sincerely feel there is merit behind the trade; the long term promise that Redman has showed despite a small number of games, vs a starting midfielder (it's very unlikely that he will be a fwd), likely for one more season.
I point to London's unopposed trade of Shaun Burgoyne going for Picks 47 & 48 as a comparison to this trade.
In the past, I've been quite conservative with my trades that fall within this 4-6 vote range. In those instances, the trade has typically received either 5 or 6 votes (before 6 was an auto-neg), and I overturned the decision to a rejection.
However, I feel that 4 votes doesn't warrant this extra level of conservatism on my part, with regard to whatever bias I may have. If it had received 5 votes, I would reject the trade citing any bias I may have being an unfair advantage in the trade outcome.
In addition to this, no trade that has received 4 votes this year has been failed by me so far.
In considering all of the above, I will not be overturning the decision made by the WXV community, and will be letting it pass.
700 over cap so happy to help some people out i have guys like Bastinac, Hartley, N.Brown, Riska all of varying cap worth, im a bit short of list size so happy to talks some later picks
Anyone still in need of cap feel free to hit myself or Koop up :)
I need to dump some cap too.
JJK or Shane Edwards. Take them. I can't be stuck playing Stringer, McKay and Wells in the reserves.
Beijing or Cap Boi Thunder?
Looking to move up the order in the PSD. We have cap to give. See Toga to enquire.
We need to shed a lot of cap & really quickly.
Young guys like Jayden Hunt are available for an appropriate pick, or as a sweetener to a wider deal.
ONE of Zorko or Wines is potentially available for a younger future gun mid + picks.
Tom Cutler is also available for someone looking for a quality player. Picks/younger guys needed for him.
ONE of Taylor Walker, Josh Caddy & Kane Lambert is also available for a similar type deal.
Obviously we wont do ALL of the above, but we need to get some of these guys out the door unfortunately. Offer needs to obviously be fair and reasonable, but imagine there are a few teams looking to add a bit more quality to their lineup!
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I'll be at cricket most of tomorrow so PM me tonight or after like 9pm tomorrow if you wanna talk trades. Or just post something up tomorrow and I'll confirm when i get back or reject because you suck
A reminder that trade deadline is 10pm AEDST tonight!
You can't post new trades after that time, but you can still confirm trades after the deadline.
Willing to put just about everyone on the table for the final 9 hours, Discord or FB the best method of contact.
With just over 6 hour until the deadline, this is when shower gets done! Rico is in and out for some reason (tbh no reason is good enough, this is just poor planning on his behalf and his pay will be docked as a result). Feel free to add me into pms/discord chat if you wanna do a deal with NDT!
Still willing to package up the package of Bailey Rice, Dan McKenzie and Brandon White for either:
- mid
- fwd
- mid + pick
- fwd + pick
- multiples picks
Hit us up on FF or preferably Discord in the final few hours if you're keen.
Also can package picks 44, 45, 55 and 66 (and PSD picks) for a slightly better pick (or picks) if anyone needs picks in bulk.
Can combine with the players above for something if need be too.
Open to offers for pretty much any of my players and could look at packaging some of my later ND or PSD picks for a slightly higher one
Spoken to a few coaches about Dion Prestia. Wouldn't mind moving him for a forward, can combine him with other pieces depending on the player.
All players are available.
Hit me up on here or Discord for some last minute deals, however big or small.
I'll be on discord soon ladies
I have about... three too many Top 30 picks.
I'll be on Discord.
Apologies if I've missed anyone's messages / haven't replied to them over the weekend. Have had a million to-and-fros so may have missed some :-X
Quote from: Toga on November 18, 2018, 10:42:51 PM
Apologies if I've missed anyone's messages / haven't replied to them over the weekend. Have had a million to-and-fros so may have missed some :-X
:'(
Teams to vote:
Moscow Spetsnaz
Pacific Islanders
PNL Reindeers
Seoul Magpies
Please get in ASAP guys
Pacific just lost their F2
Apeness just retired
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 21, 2018, 02:43:45 PM
Pacific just lost their F2
Apeness just retired
Beat me by 4 seconds hahahah
;D ;D ;D
Moscow & PNL still to vote (please get in ASAP)
Following trades will auto-pass (assuming any pre-requisite trades pass too):
Trade 76
Pacific trade: PSD Pick 14
London trade: Jacob Allison
Trade 77
Berlin trade: Liam Picken, Darren Minchington + Ben Crocker
Cairo trade: Pick 27
Trade 78
Cape Town trade: Mark Blicavs + PSD Pick 1
Christchurch trade: Shaun Higgins + PSD Pick 30
Trade 80
Mexico City trade: Pick 58
New York trade: Paul Puopolo
Trade 81
New York trade: PSD Pick 28, PSD Pick 46 + PSD Pick 48
Buenos Aires trade: PSD Pick 23
Trade 82
Mexico City trade: Darcy Byrne-Jones, Darcy MacPherson + PSD Pick 21
Beijing trade: Bradley Hill, Matt Guelfi + Tom Williamson
Trade 82
Dublin trade: PSD Pick 18
New York trade: Harry Marsh + PSD Pick 22
Trade 83
Cairo trade: Pick 8
Christchurch trade: Shane Edwards + Pick 13
Trade 84
Pacific trade: Pick 69
New York trade: Joel Garner + Pick 74
Trade 85
Beijing trade: Tom Clurey + PSD Pick 16
Buenos Aires trade: PSD Pick 11
Trade 86
Mexico City trade: Pick 26
Mexico City receive: Noah Balta, Ryan Bastinac, Nathan Brown + Pick 40
Dublin trade: Noah Balta, Pick 40 + Pick 61
Dublin receive: Pick 26
Buenos Aires trade: Ryan Bastinac + Nathan Brown
Buenos Aires receive: Pick 61
Trade 87
Berlin trade: Pick 66
Cairo trade: Jay Kennedy-Harris
Trade 88
Seoul trade: Travis Varcoe
Christchurch trade: Pick 51
Trade 89
Toronto trade: Connor Nutting
Rio de Janeiro trade: James Bell, Pick 79 + PSD Pick 24
Trade 91
Toronto trade: Ivan Soldo
Rio de Janeiro trade: Nick Larkey + PSD Pick 6
Trade 92
New Delhi trade: Jack Steven + Jeremy Howe
Dublin trade: Scott Pendlebury, Shannon Hurn + Pick 19
Trade 93
New Delhi trade: Pick 19
Christchurch trade: Stephen Hill
Trade 94
Beijing trade: Ollie Wines + Jayden Hunt
Buenos Aires trade: David Swallow + Jy Simpkin
Trade 95
PNL trade: Lukas Webb
Tokyo trade: Pick 46
Leaving two still in dispute:
Trade 79
Beijing trade: Easton Wood + Pick 35
Christchurch trade: Heath Shaw
Trade 90
Mexico City trade: Pick 10
Christchurch trade: Pick 17, Pick 20 + Pick 30
Leave Ele for one weekend and look what happens
The boy did good
Pendles <3
Barring the two pending trades, I think I have all players and picks up to date in the "Players By Position" thread
Can each coach please just check over their teams and NAT/PSD picks to make sure it's all correct, and if I have missed anything let me know :)
All votes in. The following trades each received 4 votes.
Trade 79
Beijing trade: Easton Wood + Pick 35
Christchurch trade: Heath Shaw
Coaches comments: Felt Shaw was worth more, with one feeling the opposite, in that Wood = Shaw.
Admin comments: There is plenty of precedent suggesting this trade should pass, both in prior years and this one. Shaw being worth a pick in around the late 20s mark is probably market value, and you could argue Wood + Pick 35 would equal that.
Verdict: PASS (not overturning the decision)
Trade 90
Mexico City trade: Pick 10
Christchurch trade: Pick 17, Pick 20 + Pick 30
Coaches comments: Felt Pick 30 was overkill
Admin comments: I actually kinda think this is around the mark. I don't disagree with the PASS verdict enough to overturn.
Verdict: PASS (not overturning the decision)
Wood = Shaw? ???
And with that, meow falls under the min cap and loses next year's 1st rounder, plus 4 premiership points :(
Brutal :'(
Come at me in trade period 2.
I could draft Will Langford and get above min cap but it won't matter, I'll still lose my pick as I'm not over at the conclusion of the trade period, so I've got nothing to lose now. I can get my cap down to 2mil if I like.
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I've updated the spreadsheet, thread but more importantly, your cap values with forced delisting taken into effect. I've assumed the followings players (you don't have to name them) are on that teams list:
Shane Mumford Cairo Sands
Samuel Collins Cape Town Cobras
Keegan Brooksby Buenos Aires Armadillos
Zachary Clarke Rio de Janeiro Jaguars
Corey Wagner Rio de Janeiro Jaguars
Christchurch are under the minimum cap, and will therefore be penalised 4 premiership points for next season, as well as having their first round draft pick for next year scrapped. The loss of premiership points will have no bearing when calculating the draft order next year. This penalty will stand even if Christchurch draft and trade their way (in the second trade period) above the minimum.
Let this be a lesson for those who tread close to the minimum cap, to carefully manage your team.
Willing to package up Ed Curnow (102) + Bryce Gibbs (97) for an equal but younger mid + knives/something depending on value.
Also willing to trade one of my defenders for a forward
Jimmy Webster, Tom Doedee, Jamie Macmillan, Cale Hooker, Daniel Talia, Tom Clurey, Jayden Hunt, Jesse Joyce, Michael Hartley, Conor Glass, Jacob Heron, Jordan Butts, Rory Thompson
(have to be good to be Doedee though)
Caleb Daniel, Josh Thomas available for a mid
Traded out McLean + 5 for Greene + 13 because I needed a forward. McLean keeps fwd status.
Traded out 18 for Sam Lloyd because I needed a forward. Mid only.
Compo
Also, flower CD, stupid cows
Marc Murphy available.
Given that all teams must have a list size between 44-46, is there a post we can refer to that lists the current list size of each team? Might make things a little bit easier when discussing trades.
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Given that all teams must have a list size between 44-46, is there a post we can refer to that lists the current list size of each team? Might make things a little bit easier when discussing trades.
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These are my projected list sizes for you all:
Beijing Thunder 44
Berlin Brewers 45
Buenos Aires Armadillos 46
Cairo Sands 46
Cape Town Cobras 46
Christchurch Saints 45
Dublin Destroyers 44
London Royals 46
Mexico City Suns 46
Moscow Spetsnaz 46
New Delhi Tigers 44
New York Revolution 46
Pacific Islanders 45
PNL Reindeers 46
Rio de Janeiro Jaguars 46
Seoul Magpies 45
Tokyo Samurai 46
Toronto Wolves 45
Quote from: fanTCfool on December 04, 2018, 09:12:59 PM
Given that all teams must have a list size between 44-46, is there a post we can refer to that lists the current list size of each team? Might make things a little bit easier when discussing trades.
Ah! Valid point, updating team caps/list slipped my mind. I'll get round to it later today :)
Duncan, Higgoat, Cunners, Touk, Ebert, Silk, Grigg, Conca, Bowes
Thanks to CD being giant cucks, can probs trade one of these for a fwd. Probably not Duncan... :p
Pretty happy with the balance of the side atm so not actively looking into trades. But if you have anything in mind feel free to hit us up
Updated squad is here http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,83787.msg1961823.html#msg1961823
Looking for a forward too
Defenders,Mids or Rucks can move
Everyone looking for a forward, I feel like that says something.
Eddie Betts, Jack Watts, Kieran Jack, Ben Reid, Alex Sexton, Mitch Brown, Mav Weller, Jamaine Jones
Plenty of forwards available ;)
(Didn't say they were great, but they're forwards)
*EDIT* Forgot to add the ever durable Daniel Wells, who should have DPP!!
Bring me your mids and il give you forwards!
JJK has years left
David Armitage available as a cheaper forward, averaged 95 second half of the year
Quote from: Ricochet on December 05, 2018, 11:50:07 AM
Pretty happy with the balance of the side atm so not actively looking into trades. But if you have anything in mind feel free to hit us up
Updated squad is here http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,83787.msg1961823.html#msg1961823
If anything, we run deep in the fwd line for those chasing them.
Would be wanting to improve our mids
Looking for a mid or two. All forwards (except Dunkley) available. All my non-starting (Williams/Whitfield/Short/JJ) defenders available too.
JJK and Stringer out the door soon, put in an offer now if you want one/both.
Teams left to vote:
- Berlin
My backs, fwds and rucks are looking ok now. So just looking for a starting mid
Christchurch trade: Marc Murphy
Seoul trade: Jackson Trengove + Cam McCarthy
*verdict was delayed due to my 'sleep on it' rule*
Cam McCarthy has immaterial value to this trade, and in meow's words, is essentially a cap dump by JB. The question is whether Jackson Trengove is adequate compensation for Marc Murphy.
I've taken many factors into consideration.
Marc Murphy
Despite being 31 years old, history suggests Marc Murphy will produce a high average over his next two contracted seasons. Barring injury, to which he has been recently, I think it's safe to say it will be at least 100.
Jackson Trengove
Trengove, 28, has not averaged more than 74 in a season in his career. I think that says plenty.
Team/Cap Situation
Christchurch have voluntarily elected to go under the cap and take that punishment, and thus are no longer bound by the cap boundaries. However, this doesn't stop me judging their trades with a greater onus on improving their competitiveness next year.
The cap was introduced partly to address the 'balance of the comp' issues we were facing in 2013. Teams could cite that reason to stop a trade if one team with a strong list was deemed to be boosting their short-term prospects by obtaining them from a team that didn't really have any competitiveness in the short term.
Because the cap no longer applies to meow here, I can't help but cite that reason here.
Summary
Christchurch, having elected to go below the minimum cap, have an increased onus on their trades to improve their short term competitiveness. Marc Murphy, right now, is arguably their best captain candidate, and as such should ensure they are adequately compensated in the short term, or at least greatly compensated in the long term. I can't say with confidence that either of these things are happening.
Verdict
Trade is rejected. Seoul should seek to replace Cam McCarthy with a player of at least some sort of genuine long-term worth if this trade is to pass, or replace Trengove with someone with greater short term impact.
Mexico City give: Chayce Jones
Christchurch give: Jake Stringer + Josh J Kennedy
*verdict only needed me to sleep on it once*
Jake Stringer
I think that history has shown Jake Stringer is good for an 80 average; those kinda forwards are just handy, not invaluable.
Josh J Kennedy
History will suggest JJK is good for 90+ when fit. However, it's a different kettle of fish with KPFs staying on the park post 30, and with 1 year left in contract... I think his output and duration of output starts to become more speculative.
Chayce Jones
WXV Pick 17, Jones has it all in front of him. Whilst we could easily say picks could turn out to be nothing, Chayce Jones SC average in the under 18s is high enough to suggest he has the game to be successful long term. Can play inside mid which is often conducive for SC.
Summary
Overall, I'm more comfortable with this trade than the previous one. On the surface, this may seem contradictory to my previous posts' sentiments. However, I feel that the trading of the short-term loss - particularly JJK - has been compensated enough by the long-term value that Chayce Jones presents.
Verdict
Passed.
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Christchurch trade: Marc Murphy
Seoul trade: Jackson Trengove + Cam McCarthy
*verdict was delayed due to my 'sleep on it' rule*
Cam McCarthy has immaterial value to this trade, and in meow's words, is essentially a cap dump by JB. The question is whether Jackson Trengove is adequate compensation for Marc Murphy.
I've taken many factors into consideration.
Marc Murphy
Despite being 31 years old, history suggests Marc Murphy will produce a high average over his next two contracted seasons. Barring injury, to which he has been recently, I think it's safe to say it will be at least 100.
Jackson Trengove
Trengove, 28, has not averaged more than 74 in a season in his career. I think that says plenty.
Team/Cap Situation
Christchurch have voluntarily elected to go under the cap and take that punishment, and thus are no longer bound by the cap boundaries. However, this doesn't stop me judging their trades with a greater onus on improving their competitiveness next year.
The cap was introduced partly to address the 'balance of the comp' issues we were facing in 2013. Teams could cite that reason to stop a trade if one team with a strong list was deemed to be boosting their short-term prospects by obtaining them from a team that didn't really have any competitiveness in the short term.
Because the cap no longer applies to meow here, I can't help but cite that reason here.
Summary
Christchurch, having elected to go below the minimum cap, have an increased onus on their trades to improve their short term competitiveness. Marc Murphy, right now, is arguably their best captain candidate, and as such should ensure they are adequately compensated in the short term, or at least greatly compensated in the long term. I can't say with confidence that either of these things are happening.
Verdict
Trade is rejected. Seoul should seek to replace Cam McCarthy with a player of at least some sort of genuine long-term worth if this trade is to pass, or replace Trengove with someone with greater short term impact.
If the teams were reversed - would the verdict be the same? :P
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Christchurch trade: Marc Murphy
Seoul trade: Jackson Trengove + Cam McCarthy
*verdict was delayed due to my 'sleep on it' rule*
Cam McCarthy has immaterial value to this trade, and in meow's words, is essentially a cap dump by JB. The question is whether Jackson Trengove is adequate compensation for Marc Murphy.
I've taken many factors into consideration.
Marc Murphy
Despite being 31 years old, history suggests Marc Murphy will produce a high average over his next two contracted seasons. Barring injury, to which he has been recently, I think it's safe to say it will be at least 100.
Jackson Trengove
Trengove, 28, has not averaged more than 74 in a season in his career. I think that says plenty.
Team/Cap Situation
Christchurch have voluntarily elected to go under the cap and take that punishment, and thus are no longer bound by the cap boundaries. However, this doesn't stop me judging their trades with a greater onus on improving their competitiveness next year.
The cap was introduced partly to address the 'balance of the comp' issues we were facing in 2013. Teams could cite that reason to stop a trade if one team with a strong list was deemed to be boosting their short-term prospects by obtaining them from a team that didn't really have any competitiveness in the short term.
Because the cap no longer applies to meow here, I can't help but cite that reason here.
Summary
Christchurch, having elected to go below the minimum cap, have an increased onus on their trades to improve their short term competitiveness. Marc Murphy, right now, is arguably their best captain candidate, and as such should ensure they are adequately compensated in the short term, or at least greatly compensated in the long term. I can't say with confidence that either of these things are happening.
Verdict
Trade is rejected. Seoul should seek to replace Cam McCarthy with a player of at least some sort of genuine long-term worth if this trade is to pass, or replace Trengove with someone with greater short term impact.
If the teams were reversed - would the verdict be the same? :P
Probably not actually :-X the balance of comp citation wouldn't apply, which was the key reason for the neg.
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Mexico City give: Chayce Jones
Christchurch give: Jake Stringer + Josh J Kennedy
So uh, turns out this would give Mexico City 47 players. I forgot to check that part. The trade is auto rejected. At no times can you move outside of the list boundaries of 44-46
... I seems I forgot to put Callum wilke on the Suns list in the list after drafting thread. My apologies for the confusion.
Looking for a mid who will play if anyone wants to grab Scully and wait for him. Can package with JJK
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Looking for a mid who will play if anyone wants to grab Scully and wait for him. Can package with JJK
I can give nathan brown
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Looking for a mid who will play if anyone wants to grab Scully and wait for him. Can package with JJK
I believe JB has Marc Murphy and he’ll play.
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Looking for a mid who will play if anyone wants to grab Scully and wait for him. Can package with JJK
I can give nathan brown
Been a while since I saw Nathan Brown lining up in the centre square
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Looking for a mid who will play if anyone wants to grab Scully and wait for him. Can package with JJK
I can give nathan brown
Been a while since I saw Nathan Brown lining up in the centre square
Was a great player for the Dees ;)
Trade 98
Christchurch trade: Marc Murphy
Seoul trade: Jackson Trengove + Josh Thomas
Murphy and Trengove have already been discussed.
Josh Thomas offers starting capability in the forward line, and together with Jackson Trengove, whom offers a similar output, the short-to-medium term gain offsets the larger short-term loss from Christchurch to an acceptable extent.
Trade passes.
Trade 99
Seoul trade: Caleb Daniel + Lochie O'Brien
Buenos Aires trade: Ed Curnow + Kade Chandler
I'm very comfortable with this trade. Although Curnow can be regarded as a premium midfielder, the short-term ability as well as the potential long-term improvement of Caleb Daniel (aged 7 years apart) provides comparable value. The O'Brien/Chandler swap recognises this slight tip towards Curnow being worth more, so all-in-all, I'm quite happy with this trade.
Trade passes.
If anyone is looking for some handy depth, I can move the following players
They might not be huge scorers, but they can put up some decent scores and are generally Best 22. We know the season is long and injuries happen, so it never hurts to have some reliable depth
I'm only after someone younger in return who is either best 22 already, or is showing signs on potentially being best 22 in the future - so these guys won't cost much at all as long as I like the player you're offering
DEF: Taylor Duryea, Shane Kersten
MID: Kieran Jack (FWD), Richard Douglas (FWD),
FWD: Eddie Betts, Daniel Wells, Ben Reid, Mav Weller, Mitch W Brown
(https://i.imgur.com/b2llF8X.jpg)
Haha, that's a great meme, but I stand by what I said
Guys like Douglas, Betts, Wells etc can pump out good scores when they're on, and they're best 22 when fit so that's "handy depth" ;D
We're back!
Poor Titch :( I sympathise with Pacific.
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We're back!
Poor Titch :( I sympathise with Pacific.
A great way to start the season. Some chance he can recover in time for Finals, but seems unlikely.
So Nige... am I the proud new owner of Jack Steven?
Quote from: Purple 77 on January 20, 2019, 01:31:09 PM
So Nige... am I the proud new owner of Jack Steven?
oof, this completely slipped my mind due a combination of this holiday period + not having a laptop.
Trade 100
Dublin Trade: Jack Steven + Ben McNiece
Berlin Trade: Justin Westhoff + Ned McHenry
So Holz actually came to me and asked me whether he should do this way back, I think I ended up presenting arguments for both sides of why he should or should not. It's been about a month, I had an opinion formed, forgot over the course of the holiday period and have since done my research to make an educated decision.
Given what both sides are trying to achieve by making this trade, even though I may not 100% agree with it, the trade in and of itself honestly is fine. Steven's a solid starting mid for any team, while Hoff has great utility as fwd/ruc this season. I don't believe neither McNiece nor McHenry are overly relevant in the grand scheme of things, despite Nedward being a first rounder.
Trade passes.
WXV 2018 Trade Centre (https://jumpshare.com/v/KR27DG7x8otxkYJZXRoN)
Updated spreadsheet with latest trade + 2019 positions for those interested!
Dublin trade: Brett Deledio + Tomas Bugg
Christchurch trade: Josh J Kennedy + Ryan Schoenmakers
Positional swap. Nothing to see here, trade is passed.
A reminder that the trade period ends tomorrow after 11.59.59pm AEDST!
Dublin & Seoul have used all of their movements.
Christchurch have 1 left.
Berlin & Buenos Aires have 2 left
Everyone else has 4 left.
Lists thread has been updated http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php?topic=112207.msg1962960#msg1962960
meow trades in Bugg because he just needs any mids who might play
Bugg retires 2 days later
LMAO
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 01, 2019, 05:25:36 PM
meow trades in Bugg because he just needs any mids who might play
Bugg retires 2 days later
LMAO
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Ha, damn, reckon he would have went alright too
Meow should get the first played picked up by Carlton I the rookie rules
Compoformeow
Quote from: DazBurg on February 02, 2019, 12:31:59 PM
Meow should get the first played picked up by Carlton I the rookie rules
Compoformeow
Daz letting his children on his FF account again? :P
Quote from: DazBurg on February 02, 2019, 12:31:59 PM
Meow should get the first played picked up by Carlton I the rookie rules
Compoformeow
Been confirmed thats not the case.
I really hope gibbons gets picked up. Gun
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 02, 2019, 02:28:08 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on February 02, 2019, 12:31:59 PM
Meow should get the first played picked up by Carlton I the rookie rules
Compoformeow
Daz letting his children on his FF account again? :P
hahaha
nah just nice in the off season :P
Ah yep, trade period well and truly over btw :P