New thread for Powers ongoing & upcoming season.
Retirements / Delistings: John Butcher / Alipate Carlile / Sam Colquhoun / Kane Mitchell / Jay Schulz / Paul Stewart / Cam O'Shea
Coaching staff movements: Garry Hocking contract has not been renewed & looks as if Brendon Lade is returning on a 4 year contract.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-09-18/tigers-hunt-another-assistant-after-brendon-lade-joins-port
A favourite son returns ;D
We have had too many assistant coaches stolen from us over the years... It feels good to nab one back
Now will someone please nab Voss hahaha :P
One day we will have something to talk about ;D
Quote from: Koop on October 12, 2016, 02:39:32 PM
One day we will have something to talk about ;D
What about Gibbs? I feel like he isn't getting enough attention on the forums at the moment :-X
Quote from: Gigantor on October 12, 2016, 02:54:14 PM
Quote from: Koop on October 12, 2016, 02:39:32 PM
One day we will have something to talk about ;D
What about Gibbs? I feel like he isn't getting enough attention on the forums at the moment :-X
;D
On that though, the whole Hartlett situation is a disaster. We don't eve have the money to sign our current off-contract players, and it seems no one wanted Hartlett or Lobbe so trouble looming. Think we're in a bit of a mess, and the way the club handled Hartlett it makes you wonder if there are other issues below the surface.
Quote from: Koop on October 12, 2016, 03:02:02 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on October 12, 2016, 02:54:14 PM
Quote from: Koop on October 12, 2016, 02:39:32 PM
One day we will have something to talk about ;D
What about Gibbs? I feel like he isn't getting enough attention on the forums at the moment :-X
;D
On that though, the whole Hartlett situation is a disaster. We don't eve have the money to sign our current off-contract players, and it seems no one wanted Hartlett or Lobbe so trouble looming. Think we're in a bit of a mess, and the way the club handled Hartlett it makes you wonder if there are other issues below the surface.
+1
I'm worried about retaining Pittard
If anyone at the club deserves the type of money Hartlett & Spud Lobes is on, it's Pittard... :-\
He will attract a lot of attention next season
It seems Port have really cooked themselves by aggressively overestimating where they were at, and offering enormous contracts to B-Grade players.
Its unfortunate, I for one was convinced they were tracking for a premiership when they finished top 4 (can't remember what year that was, 12/13?) so chasing Dixon/Ryder was probably a fair call.
I reckon they need to strip it back and re-assess. Guys like Pittard, Wines, Chad are the ones who need to be on big money. I'd also love to see Chad get a run through the guts at some point!
Quote from: elephants on October 12, 2016, 04:13:28 PM
It seems Port have really cooked themselves by aggressively overestimating where they were at, and offering enormous contracts to B-Grade players.
Its unfortunate, I for one was convinced they were tracking for a premiership when they finished top 4 (can't remember what year that was, 12/13?) so chasing Dixon/Ryder was probably a fair call.
I reckon they need to strip it back and re-assess. Guys like Pittard, Wines, Chad are the ones who need to be on big money. I'd also love to see Chad get a run through the guts at some point!
Nah we finished 7th (8th on points) in 2013 & 5th in 2014. Chasing Ryder was a good call, Dixon I'm still not 100% sold on, but I'm sure another season and I'll be singing his praises.
I reckon the club is in a bit of trouble, we have a few guys at the moment (Gray, Arch, etc.) who I think we are unable to sign due to lack of funds. Not saying either should be on big money but it is a concern. Pittard & Young are two that are coming off contract at the end of next year who will be demanding a lot more money than their last contracts, and while I don't think either is in danger of leaving due to personal reasons, the money might not be there.
Speaking of Ah Chee, could be headed home if the GC have a spot on their list. If we're going to continue to play him as a half forward I respect his decision to look elsewhere, since while he may not be a world beater, he is an inside mid.
Quote from: Koop on October 14, 2016, 06:15:31 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 12, 2016, 04:13:28 PM
It seems Port have really cooked themselves by aggressively overestimating where they were at, and offering enormous contracts to B-Grade players.
Its unfortunate, I for one was convinced they were tracking for a premiership when they finished top 4 (can't remember what year that was, 12/13?) so chasing Dixon/Ryder was probably a fair call.
I reckon they need to strip it back and re-assess. Guys like Pittard, Wines, Chad are the ones who need to be on big money. I'd also love to see Chad get a run through the guts at some point!
Nah we finished 7th (8th on points) in 2013 & 5th in 2014. Chasing Ryder was a good call, Dixon I'm still not 100% sold on, but I'm sure another season and I'll be singing his praises.
I reckon the club is in a bit of trouble, we have a few guys at the moment (Gray, Arch, etc.) who I think we are unable to sign due to lack of funds. Not saying either should be on big money but it is a concern. Pittard & Young are two that are coming off contract at the end of next year who will be demanding a lot more money than their last contracts, and while I don't think either is in danger of leaving due to personal reasons, the money might not be there.
Speaking of Ah Chee, could be headed home if the GC have a spot on their list. If we're going to continue to play him as a half forward I respect his decision to look elsewhere, since while he may not be a world beater, he is an inside mid.
+1
We need to stop playing Hammer out of position as well
Gold Coast are just as guilty of the practice though - KK is not a lockdown defender, Eade needs to play him in a rebounding role again next season (it may be due to the injuries though)
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 14, 2016, 07:49:03 PM
Quote from: Koop on October 14, 2016, 06:15:31 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 12, 2016, 04:13:28 PM
It seems Port have really cooked themselves by aggressively overestimating where they were at, and offering enormous contracts to B-Grade players.
Its unfortunate, I for one was convinced they were tracking for a premiership when they finished top 4 (can't remember what year that was, 12/13?) so chasing Dixon/Ryder was probably a fair call.
I reckon they need to strip it back and re-assess. Guys like Pittard, Wines, Chad are the ones who need to be on big money. I'd also love to see Chad get a run through the guts at some point!
Nah we finished 7th (8th on points) in 2013 & 5th in 2014. Chasing Ryder was a good call, Dixon I'm still not 100% sold on, but I'm sure another season and I'll be singing his praises.
I reckon the club is in a bit of trouble, we have a few guys at the moment (Gray, Arch, etc.) who I think we are unable to sign due to lack of funds. Not saying either should be on big money but it is a concern. Pittard & Young are two that are coming off contract at the end of next year who will be demanding a lot more money than their last contracts, and while I don't think either is in danger of leaving due to personal reasons, the money might not be there.
Speaking of Ah Chee, could be headed home if the GC have a spot on their list. If we're going to continue to play him as a half forward I respect his decision to look elsewhere, since while he may not be a world beater, he is an inside mid.
+1
We need to stop playing Hammer out of position as well
Gold Coast are just as guilty of the practice though - KK is not a lockdown defender, Eade needs to play him in a rebounding role again next season (it may be due to the injuries though)
Agreed, Hartlett is not a back flanker by any means. Theres a few others I think who aren't in their correct position either, but some would disagree.
As ele said also, I'd love to see Chad get a run through the middle at some point in 2017.
My current Best 22 for Round 1 next year (assuming Ah Chee departs)
B: Darcy Byrne-Jones, Jack Hombsch, Tom Jonas
HB: Matthew Broadbent, Jackson Trengove, Jasper Pittard,
C: Matt White, Ollie Wines, Brad Ebert
HF: Angus Monfries*, Justin Westhoff, Chad Wingard
F: Jarman Impey, Charlie Dixon, Aaron Young
Fol: Patrick Ryder, Robbie Gray, Travis Boak
I: Jared Polec, Nathan Krakouer, Hamish Hartlett, Sam Gray
E: Karl Amon, Jesse Palmer, Tom Clurey
* - Pending contract
DEF depth: Bonner, O'Shea*, Austin, Stewart*, Hewett
MID depth: Toumpas, Snelling, Johnson
RUC depth: Lobbe (can't see him over anyone, Gray maybe?), Frampton
FWD depth: Neade, Howard, Houston
Have I forgotten anyone?
Almost always someone is forgotten but I can't see any holes on first sight.
If we get Vardy he will probably be first team over one of the midfielders.
Yeah I agree, Lobbe better not be a starter next season
He needs to prove himself again
Good Luck to Ah Chee at the Gold Coast
He's been a solid fringe player for Port and it's good to see that he can now get more opportunities (and be united with his brother).
A mutually beneficial trade because we can free up some cap space & give Pittard a pay raise next season :)
I said to Grazz today, from a kick away from a Grand final, in 2014, and a destination club of some sorts, everything gone pear shaped. I think these long term contracts will come back to bite us on the arse. I still believe there's something else not right at the club. Not close enough to know what, but something just ain't quite right
Quote from: Dudge on October 17, 2016, 09:27:50 PM
I said to Grazz today, from a kick away from a Grand final, in 2014, and a destination club of some sorts, everything gone pear shaped. I think these long term contracts will come back to bite us on the arse. I still believe there's something else not right at the club. Not close enough to know what, but something just ain't quite right
rift between Boak & Hartlett over Hartlett spending too much time with Boak's missus according to my chiropractor who's brother works in a similar role at an AFL club. how much truth there is to that I don't know.
Also PSK, I didn't think there was anything official yet?
Quote from: Koop on October 17, 2016, 09:31:57 PM
rift between Boak & Hartlett over Hartlett spending too much time with Boak's missus according to my chiropractor who's brother works in a similar role at an AFL club. how much truth there is to that I don't know.
This rumour has been doing the rounds for a while now, can't help but wonder how much substance there is to it!
Hartlett is a pretty good bloke IRL
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 17, 2016, 10:47:21 PM
Hartlett is a pretty good bloke IRL
Not saying he isn't. The rumour I got suggested that it was more of a relationship argument with Hartlett offering the missus counselling, not anything untoward in an intimate sense. :P
Quote from: Koop on October 17, 2016, 09:31:57 PM
Quote from: Dudge on October 17, 2016, 09:27:50 PM
I said to Grazz today, from a kick away from a Grand final, in 2014, and a destination club of some sorts, everything gone pear shaped. I think these long term contracts will come back to bite us on the arse. I still believe there's something else not right at the club. Not close enough to know what, but something just ain't quite right
rift between Boak & Hartlett over Hartlett spending too much time with Boak's missus according to my chiropractor who's brother works in a similar role at an AFL club. how much truth there is to that I don't know.
Also PSK, I didn't think there was anything official yet?
We must have the same Chiro lol. The Chiro was where I first heard that rumour.
Quote from: Koop on October 17, 2016, 09:31:57 PM
Quote from: Dudge on October 17, 2016, 09:27:50 PM
I said to Grazz today, from a kick away from a Grand final, in 2014, and a destination club of some sorts, everything gone pear shaped. I think these long term contracts will come back to bite us on the arse. I still believe there's something else not right at the club. Not close enough to know what, but something just ain't quite right
rift between Boak & Hartlett over Hartlett spending too much time with Boak's missus according to my chiropractor who's brother works in a similar role at an AFL club. how much truth there is to that I don't know.
Also PSK, I didn't think there was anything official yet?
Far out, it wasn't >:( (nothing against Ah Chee but someone needs to go to free up cap space)
We gave pick 60 something and next years first rounder for Pick 19 and 30 this season as part of the Hanley trade
Gold Coast must not have been interested in Ah Chee (they probably preferred the picks)
Quote from: PowerBug on October 17, 2016, 11:03:47 PM
Quote from: Koop on October 17, 2016, 09:31:57 PM
Quote from: Dudge on October 17, 2016, 09:27:50 PM
I said to Grazz today, from a kick away from a Grand final, in 2014, and a destination club of some sorts, everything gone pear shaped. I think these long term contracts will come back to bite us on the arse. I still believe there's something else not right at the club. Not close enough to know what, but something just ain't quite right
rift between Boak & Hartlett over Hartlett spending too much time with Boak's missus according to my chiropractor who's brother works in a similar role at an AFL club. how much truth there is to that I don't know.
Also PSK, I didn't think there was anything official yet?
We must have the same Chiro lol. The Chiro was where I first heard that rumour.
Actually no, I heard it was the other way round? :o (Boak was the dhead)
So it's the 10th year since what looks like one of our most successful drafts, back in 2006.
Boak (5) - Skipper, decided to stay with us instead of going to the Cats.
Stewart (23) - Okay maybe not worth pick 23 but still been a more than serviceable player for us :)
Krakouer (39) - Been very good in his 2nd coming at the club
R. Gray (55) - Well, need I say anything?
Westhoff (71) - The man himself and his beard.
Gray 55! wowee!!
Another trade period goes by without Port Adelaide trading away a player
Swans get: Pick 9, 19, 49
Power get: Pick 14, 17, 31
So we now have 14, 17, 30, 31 in this years draft, and no 1st round next year at this stage.
Quote from: PowerBug on October 20, 2016, 03:32:56 PM
Swans get: Pick 9, 19, 49
Power get: Pick 14, 17, 31
So we now have 14, 17, 30, 31 in this years draft, and no 1st round next year at this stage.
I agree with this trade
Our issue is a lack of depth rather than talent - I think spreading risk through more top 30 (well top 31) picks is the way to go :P
Best 22 in 2017 according to News Ltd.
B: Tom Jonas, Jack Hombsch, Matt Broadbent
HB: Jasper Pittard, Jackson Trengove, Hamish Hartlett
C: Jared Polec, Travis Boak, Brad Ebert
HF: Jarman Impey, Justin Westhoff, Sam Gray
F: Aaron Young, Charlie Dixon, Chad Wingard
R: Patrick Ryder, Ollie Wines, Robbie Gray
IC: Matt White, Angus Monfries, Karl Amon, Nathan Krakouer
So basically just Amon for DBJ from my predicted 22, albeit all in different spots.
& according to afl.com.au
B: Jack Hombsch, Logan Austin, Darcy Byrne-Jones
HB: Matthew Broadbent, Tom Jonas, Jasper Pittard
C: Jared Polec, Ollie Wines, Brad Ebert
HF: Jarman Impey, Charlie Dixon, Chad Wingard
F: Aaron Young, Patrick Ryder, Justin Westhoff
R: Jackson Trengove, Travis Boak, Robbie Gray
INT: Tom Clurey, Sam Gray, Riley Bonner, Hamish Hartlett
EMERG: Angus Monfries, Karl Amon, Brendon Ah Chee
So they have Tom Clurey, Riley Bonner & Logan Austin over Darcy Byrne-Jones, Angus Monfries & Matt White. Interesting they left White out.....
Well I joked to a few people on Tuesday that we will get BL, GC, Coll, Richmond and Adelaide twice. So to get 3 of them (Crows was obviously going to happen) means I don't think we can complain about the draw too much :o
Quote from: PowerBug on October 27, 2016, 05:53:33 PM
Well I joked to a few people on Tuesday that we will get BL, GC, Coll, Richmond and Adelaide twice. So to get 3 of them (Crows was obviously going to happen) means I don't think we can complain about the draw too much :o
No neither! Playing Essendon in Melbourne on the long weekend means another Melb roadtrip and hopefully will be able to get down to Ballarat for that game as well. Think it's been very kind to us this time around.
Cam O'Shea = Gone
Quote from: PowerBug on October 30, 2016, 11:26:58 AM
Cam O'Shea = Gone
I feel he was made the scapegoat for our poor defensive game plan over the last few years. May not have been A-grade or had the best couple of seasons form-wise, but was certainly a capable intercept defender. Will be a handy pickup for clubs short down back.
Quote from: Koop on October 30, 2016, 12:21:42 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 30, 2016, 11:26:58 AM
Cam O'Shea = Gone
I feel he was made the scapegoat for our poor defensive game plan over the last few years. May not have been A-grade or had the best couple of seasons form-wise, but was certainly a capable intercept defender. Will be a handy pickup for clubs short down back.
Now who am I going to blame whenever we loss :P
Moore = Gone
Butcher = Gone
O'Shea = Gone
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 30, 2016, 01:21:42 PM
Quote from: Koop on October 30, 2016, 12:21:42 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 30, 2016, 11:26:58 AM
Cam O'Shea = Gone
I feel he was made the scapegoat for our poor defensive game plan over the last few years. May not have been A-grade or had the best couple of seasons form-wise, but was certainly a capable intercept defender. Will be a handy pickup for clubs short down back.
Now who am I going to blame whenever we loss :P
Moore = Gone
Butcher = Gone
O'Shea = Gone
No worries, I just remembered that we gave Tom Jonas a contract extension :P
Dixon & Monfries to go under the knife.
ANGUS MONFRIES and Charlie Dixon have undergone surgery to correct respective shoulder and ankle issues.
http://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/news/2016-11-22/two-undergo-surgery
Anyone feel like writing a Port 2017 preview for my site?
PM if your keen !
Powers Statement re Jarman Impey.
http://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/news/2017-03-31/statement-jarman-impey