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General sports discussion => AFL => Melbourne => Topic started by: Barra13 on August 05, 2016, 09:47:59 am

Title: MEL vs HAW Round 20
Post by: Barra13 on August 05, 2016, 09:47:59 am
I was thinking the other day about world affairs and politics and it occurred to me that, given the calibre of the major candidates in the coming elections for the president of the leading country of the so called "free world", we might be in a bit of trouble. Then I looked at who was leading the other "developed" nations across the western world, including our own, and a spot of panic set in. I understand completely that there are many countries across the globe that lack democratic values and are ruled by corrupt, incompetent or plain evil tyrants (and most of them will be on show over the coming weeks at the Olympic Games) but when the calibre of leadership in our democracies is weak and pathetic, I wonder whether mankind has lost its desire to achieve perfection.
Of course, philosophers will argue that the question of perfection concerns not whether man is perfect, but whether he should be perfect and if that is true, then how is perfection to be attained?
I wonder about this in many spheres of life but last week at roughly 3.30pm last Sunday afternoon, as I sat in the stand at the MCG watching players committing the most basic skill errors such as miskicks and handballs to teammates with their backs to the play, I was confronted with the thought that perhaps the search for perfection in our game is beyond reach.
However, it was after the game, when I had time to collect my thoughts and notice who Melbourne was drawn to play against in six daysí time, that I changed my mind. If there is perfection in our game then the current Hawthorn team must be close. The Hawks have won the last three AFL premierships and they currently sit on top of the ladder, two games clear of their nearest rivals and well on their way to achieving a rare fourth successive premiership. I used to think that the Demons of the fifties and sixties were the perfect team but even they fell at the final hurdle in 1958 when their time came to emulate the Magpies' record from three decades earlier.
Melbourne's recent record against Hawthorn has been embarrassing. They haven't beaten them since Alistair Clarkson's early days of a decade ago when the young Hawks were like the Demons of today - inexperienced and wet behind the ears. Two months ago, an enthusiastic young Melbourne team took it right up to them for three quarters but they were overwhelmed in the final term. This week, they face a ruthless foe that has its eyes firmly set on winning the flag in September and it will give  others no favours in that quest.
The Hawks' game against Carlton was by no means perfect but they were fielding a side that was nowhere near to their best. They are expected to bring in Cyril Rioli, Paul Puopolo and possibly Liam Shiels this week and against the tiring young Demons, I fear that we might finally see a team achieve perfection.
Melbourne v Hawthorn at the MCG Saturday 6 August 2016 at 2.10pm
Overall Melbourne 74 wins Hawthorn 85 wins
At MCG Melbourne 35 wins Hawthorn 44 wins
Last 5 meetings Melbourne 0 wins Hawthorn 5 wins
The Coaches Roos 0 wins Clarkson 3 wins
TV -
Melbourne $5.75 to win Hawthorn $1.14 to win
Hawthorn 11.16.82 defeated Melbourne 10.4.64 in Round 11, 2016 at the MCG
The Demons lasted for three quarters before the weight of experience and talent started taking its toll. The Hawks' 18 point win in the wet gloomy conditions was their 13th win in a row in a streak that goes all the way back to 2006.


B: Sam Frost, Tom McDonald, Neville Jetta
HB: Jayden Hunt, Oscar McDonald, Billy Stretch
C: Christian Petracca, Bernie Vince, Dom Tyson
HF: Jeff Garlett, Jack Watts, Clayton Oliver
F: Sam Weideman, Jesse Hogan, Dean Kent
FOLL: Max Gawn, Nathan Jones, Jack Viney
I/C: Angus Brayshaw, Tomas Bugg, James Harmes, Aaron Vandenberg 
EMG: Colin Garland, Matt Jones, Cameron Pedersen   
IN: Tomas Bugg, Clayton Oliver, Sam Weideman

OUT: Chris Dawes (omitted), Matt Jones (omitted), Josh Wagner (omitted)

NEW: Sam Weideman


B: Taylor Duryea, James Frawley, Ben Stratton
HB: Shaun Burgoyne, Josh Gibson, Grant Birchall
C: Isaac Smith, Sam Mitchell, Bradley Hill
HF: Luke Breust, Jack Gunston, Will Langford
F: Tim O'Brien, Ben McEvoy, Cyril Rioli
FOLL: Jonathon Ceglar, Jordan Lewis, Luke Hodge
I/C: Kaiden Brand,Jonathan O'Rourke, James Sicily, Brendan Whitecross 
EMG: Blake Hardwick, Kurt Heatherley, Dallas Willsmore

IN: Cyril Rioli

OUT: Blake Hardwick (omitted)
Title: Re: MEL vs HAW Round 20
Post by: Purple 77 on August 05, 2016, 05:09:47 pm
Despite that awful performance, I give us a sneaky chance.

But don't tell anyone.
Title: Re: MEL vs HAW Round 20
Post by: Purple 77 on August 06, 2016, 05:28:37 pm
Despite that awful performance, I give us a sneaky chance.

But don't tell anyone.

We were pretty OK today.
Title: Re: MEL vs HAW Round 20
Post by: Barra13 on August 06, 2016, 08:25:21 pm
Haha. I was kind of quietly confident myself actually. Thought we would stick with them but for how long. That was the question for the other team though :D