Hello hello hello, it's your 2016 Champions League host here, time to get this thing going again for 2016 I say! Unfortunately due to lack of chatter from basically everyone involved this never got started earlier in the season (May have to look into this for 2017) but good news is there's still enough time to run a comp for 2016!
How it will run: - 32 teams will be involved, 8 from each of the 4 XVs competitions
- The top 8 (post finals) from each competition will qualify with one exception:
- The previous season's CL winner automatically qualifies as number 1 seed for their comp
- There will be 8 groups of 4, each group containing one team from each competition.
- Groups will have some system to them (based on seeds) but some randomness will be involved too.
- Multipliers for the different scoring systems will obviously be used, based on numbers from 2016 form those teams.
- As this comp is seperate from the respective XVs comps, teams will name their teams on specific threads in here, and the additional multipliers and stuff that are different between comps will not be used
- Each round of the KO stages will be re-drawn. In the Round of 16 the group winners will play a runner up from another group that is not from the same competition as them. From the Quarters onwards it is a free draw.
(More shower to come in here so that you picky peeps don't start pulling technicalities on me)
Fixtures:AFL Round 16: Group Stage 1
AFL Round 17: Group Stage 2
AFL Round 18: Group Stage 3
AFL Round 19: KO Round of 16
AFL Round 20: Quarter Finals
AFL Round 21: Semi Finals
AFL Round 22: Grand Final
Groups
Group A | Group B | Group C | Group D | Group E | Group F | Group G | Group H |
Macedonian Wolves | Winchester Werewolves | Christchurch Saints | Mongolian Lambs | Serbian Eagles | Laos Elephants | Liverpool Rams | Mexico City Suns |
Paris Nice Lyon Reindeers | Sri Lanka Strikers | English Lions | Dublin Destroyers | Hastings Hurricanes | Huddersfield Hawks | UAE Tigers | Svalbard Valkyries |
Bradford Badgers | Berlin Brewers | Swansea Breakers | Belgian Bashers | Kathmandu Eskimos | Iceland Polar Bears | Moscow Spetnaz | Australian Ales |
Kuala Lumpar Crocodiles | Spanish Stallions | Bangladesh Bears | Manchester Magic | New York Revolution | Pacific Islanders | Swiss Storm | Wrexham Knights |
flower yeh super keen PB
Oh as you can see there's that gap in Euros, I have nfi who finished where I can't find any thread to go off...
If there's mistakes/queries with any of the other comps do correct me/ask. Best to sort everything out before i go making the groups up :P
Will also look at getting together a night (Post the 30th June my last uni exam) where the groups will be formed live through a computerised drawing out of a hat scenario :o (Once I confirm with myself that it will indeed work and there won't be errors)
Quote from: Holz on August 14, 2015, 11:59:30 AM
Prelim 1
Macedonian Wolves v Serbian Eagles
Prelim 2
English Lions v Svalbard Valkyries
Elimination 1
Iceland Polar Bears v Swiss Storm
Elimination 2
Spanish Stallions v Belgian Bashers
So
Macedonian Wolves
English Lions
Svalbard Valkyries
Serbian Eagles
Iceland Polar Bears
Spanish Stallions
Belgian Bashers
Swiss Storm
Beautiful. Sandilands should be back for round 1 of this comp, so defend my title I shall.
Quote from: nrich102 on June 16, 2016, 06:50:23 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 14, 2015, 11:59:30 AM
Prelim 1
Macedonian Wolves v Serbian Eagles
Prelim 2
English Lions v Svalbard Valkyries
Elimination 1
Iceland Polar Bears v Swiss Storm
Elimination 2
Spanish Stallions v Belgian Bashers
So
Macedonian Wolves
English Lions
Svalbard Valkyries
Serbian Eagles
Iceland Polar Bears
Spanish Stallions
Belgian Bashers
Swiss Storm
That's before finals though? It was the Prelim and Grand Final threads I couldn't find in the Euro board
McKernan named on the extended bench this week. Warming up for this, nearing a return so he can captain the Saints again.
Stoked to see this up and running again :D
Loved the Christchurch journey last year, especially that game where meow captained McKernan and we all thought he was bluffing and was gonna edit it last minute, but in fact he stuck with him and he scored like 150 x 2 :P
But I fear Berlin won't be nearly as competitive as last year :-X
Bloody Christchurch :'(. I VOW VENGEANCE!
This should be interesting, all three of my teams in this are struggling a bit atm haha.
Serbia would have to be close to favorites, yeah? Just hopefully we dont get flowered by the multiplier again.
Quote from: nrich102 on June 16, 2016, 11:31:35 PM
Serbia would have to be close to favorites, yeah? Just hopefully we dont get flowered by the multiplier again.
6th at best imho
Quote from: nrich102 on June 16, 2016, 11:31:35 PM
Serbia would have to be close to favorites, yeah? Just hopefully we dont get flowered by the multiplier again.
They'll choke like they do in Euros :P. #WentThere
Think they are one of the stronger Euro teams with Lions (that midfield) and Bashers. But the multiplier is heavily favoured against any Euro team ever winning this haha.
Quote from: Hellopplz on June 17, 2016, 12:47:33 AM
Quote from: nrich102 on June 16, 2016, 11:31:35 PM
Serbia would have to be close to favorites, yeah? Just hopefully we dont get flowered by the multiplier again.
They'll choke like they do in Euros :P. #WentThere
Think they are one of the stronger Euro teams with Lions (that midfield) and Bashers. But the multiplier is heavily favoured against any Euro team ever winning this haha.
How is the multiplier against Euro teams? If anything it benefits Euros because it's the lowest scoring comp :P
Quote from: GoLions on June 17, 2016, 12:58:19 AM
Quote from: Hellopplz on June 17, 2016, 12:47:33 AM
Quote from: nrich102 on June 16, 2016, 11:31:35 PM
Serbia would have to be close to favorites, yeah? Just hopefully we dont get flowered by the multiplier again.
They'll choke like they do in Euros :P. #WentThere
Think they are one of the stronger Euro teams with Lions (that midfield) and Bashers. But the multiplier is heavily favoured against any Euro team ever winning this haha.
How is the multiplier against Euro teams? If anything it benefits Euros because it's the lowest scoring comp :P
It's like the worst scoring system (like sc has a scale of 3300 whereas dt just depends) which is why it was hard for any of the teams to go really deep in the past. I call for compensatory multiplier!
Quote from: Hellopplz on June 17, 2016, 01:28:42 AM
Quote from: GoLions on June 17, 2016, 12:58:19 AM
Quote from: Hellopplz on June 17, 2016, 12:47:33 AM
Quote from: nrich102 on June 16, 2016, 11:31:35 PM
Serbia would have to be close to favorites, yeah? Just hopefully we dont get flowered by the multiplier again.
They'll choke like they do in Euros :P. #WentThere
Think they are one of the stronger Euro teams with Lions (that midfield) and Bashers. But the multiplier is heavily favoured against any Euro team ever winning this haha.
How is the multiplier against Euro teams? If anything it benefits Euros because it's the lowest scoring comp :P
It's like the worst scoring system (like sc has a scale of 3300 whereas dt just depends) which is why it was hard for any of the teams to go really deep in the past. I call for compensatory multiplier!
But British and AXVs also just depends haha
I think the thing we need to focus on this time is using only scores from the top 8 teams as opposed to the entire comps, which I don't think we did last year.
Quote from: GoLions on June 17, 2016, 01:46:46 AM
Quote from: Hellopplz on June 17, 2016, 01:28:42 AM
Quote from: GoLions on June 17, 2016, 12:58:19 AM
Quote from: Hellopplz on June 17, 2016, 12:47:33 AM
Quote from: nrich102 on June 16, 2016, 11:31:35 PM
Serbia would have to be close to favorites, yeah? Just hopefully we dont get flowered by the multiplier again.
They'll choke like they do in Euros :P. #WentThere
Think they are one of the stronger Euro teams with Lions (that midfield) and Bashers. But the multiplier is heavily favoured against any Euro team ever winning this haha.
How is the multiplier against Euro teams? If anything it benefits Euros because it's the lowest scoring comp :P
It's like the worst scoring system (like sc has a scale of 3300 whereas dt just depends) which is why it was hard for any of the teams to go really deep in the past. I call for compensatory multiplier!
But British and AXVs also just depends haha
I think the thing we need to focus on this time is using only scores from the top 8 teams as opposed to the entire comps, which I don't think we did last year.
Nah dont do that it will favour Worlds
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on June 17, 2016, 01:48:19 AM
Quote from: GoLions on June 17, 2016, 01:46:46 AM
Quote from: Hellopplz on June 17, 2016, 01:28:42 AM
Quote from: GoLions on June 17, 2016, 12:58:19 AM
Quote from: Hellopplz on June 17, 2016, 12:47:33 AM
Quote from: nrich102 on June 16, 2016, 11:31:35 PM
Serbia would have to be close to favorites, yeah? Just hopefully we dont get flowered by the multiplier again.
They'll choke like they do in Euros :P. #WentThere
Think they are one of the stronger Euro teams with Lions (that midfield) and Bashers. But the multiplier is heavily favoured against any Euro team ever winning this haha.
How is the multiplier against Euro teams? If anything it benefits Euros because it's the lowest scoring comp :P
It's like the worst scoring system (like sc has a scale of 3300 whereas dt just depends) which is why it was hard for any of the teams to go really deep in the past. I call for compensatory multiplier!
But British and AXVs also just depends haha
I think the thing we need to focus on this time is using only scores from the top 8 teams as opposed to the entire comps, which I don't think we did last year.
Nah dont do that it will favour Worlds
Didn't it favour Worlds last year because teams like Dublin and Mexico were so far ahead of New Dehli, Buenos Aires and Cairo? That's why I mentioned it haha
Only like, two uncompetitive teams in Worlds atm, and one of them is largely due to their best players being injured. Wouldn't the multiplier last year have been effected just as much by the uncompetitive teams in the other comps?
How many of those does each comp have btw, just for curiosities sake?
#ThePointsCapWorks #AndIGuessGoodCoaches
are we starting this round?
Yeah, the multiplier really flowered over the even competitions.
Quote from: Ziplock on June 17, 2016, 01:06:26 PM
are we starting this round?
Yeah, the multiplier really flowered over the even competitions.
After the byes, Round 16. That is in the OP :) I need to work out multipliers and make the groups first :P
Quote from: PowerBug on June 17, 2016, 01:40:55 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on June 17, 2016, 01:06:26 PM
are we starting this round?
Yeah, the multiplier really flowered over the even competitions.
After the byes, Round 16. That is in the OP :) I need to work out multipliers and make the groups first :P
For the groups, would something like this be fair?
W = Worlds
E = Euros
B = British
A = Asians
Group 1: W1, E4, B5, A8
Group 2: W2, E3, B6, A7
Group 3: W3, E2, B7, A6
Group 4: W4, E1, B8, A5
Group 5: W5, E8, B1, A4
Group 6: W6, E7, B2, A3
Group 7: W7, E6, B3, A2
Group 8: W8, E5, B4, A1
Quote from: GoLions on June 17, 2016, 01:48:06 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on June 17, 2016, 01:40:55 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on June 17, 2016, 01:06:26 PM
are we starting this round?
Yeah, the multiplier really flowered over the even competitions.
After the byes, Round 16. That is in the OP :) I need to work out multipliers and make the groups first :P
For the groups, would something like this be fair?
W = Worlds
E = Euros
B = British
A = Asians
Group 1: W1, E4, B5, A8
Group 2: W2, E3, B6, A7
Group 3: W3, E2, B7, A6
Group 4: W4, E1, B8, A5
Group 5: W5, E8, B1, A4
Group 6: W6, E7, B2, A3
Group 7: W7, E6, B3, A2
Group 8: W8, E5, B4, A1
That fits the model I was hoping to have yes (Each group has a 1-2 seed, 3-4 seed etc, and one team from each comp), but the plan is to set up an evening where the groups are drawn out of a virtual hat. Which will hopefully generate a following :)
Quote from: PowerBug on June 17, 2016, 02:00:12 PM
Quote from: GoLions on June 17, 2016, 01:48:06 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on June 17, 2016, 01:40:55 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on June 17, 2016, 01:06:26 PM
are we starting this round?
Yeah, the multiplier really flowered over the even competitions.
After the byes, Round 16. That is in the OP :) I need to work out multipliers and make the groups first :P
For the groups, would something like this be fair?
W = Worlds
E = Euros
B = British
A = Asians
Group 1: W1, E4, B5, A8
Group 2: W2, E3, B6, A7
Group 3: W3, E2, B7, A6
Group 4: W4, E1, B8, A5
Group 5: W5, E8, B1, A4
Group 6: W6, E7, B2, A3
Group 7: W7, E6, B3, A2
Group 8: W8, E5, B4, A1
That fits the model I was hoping to have yes (Each group has a 1-2 seed, 3-4 seed etc, and one team from each comp), but the plan is to set up an evening where the groups are drawn out of a virtual hat. Which will hopefully generate a following :)
Ahhh ok :)
Tbh as long as I don't get put in a group with Mexico or KL, I'll be relatively happy :P
Reckon the Hurricanes will be the team to beat though
#British #OtherCompsAreRubbish #ThisKindnessIsOnlyForChampionsLeague
Compo.
Euro will get killed.
Our top 3 isnt even in the comp
Quote from: GoLions on June 17, 2016, 02:06:07 PM
Reckon the Hurricanes will be the team to beat though
Premiership a sure thing ;)
Quote from: Holz on June 17, 2016, 02:41:13 PM
Euro will get killed.
Our top 3 isnt even in the comp
On points scored, only 1 team from your top 3 is missing ;)
British missing 4 of their top 8 on points scored, 3 from top 8 of ladder
Hedgies, and Owls would have made us a force to be reckoned with!
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 17, 2016, 02:48:01 PM
Quote from: GoLions on June 17, 2016, 02:06:07 PM
Reckon the Hurricanes will be the team to beat though
Premiership a sure thing ;)
Not yet! :P
Werewolves coming back into form, and Badgers hoping to get Higgins back to bolster their forward line come finals ;)
Quote from: GoLions on June 17, 2016, 02:50:05 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 17, 2016, 02:48:01 PM
Quote from: GoLions on June 17, 2016, 02:06:07 PM
Reckon the Hurricanes will be the team to beat though
Premiership a sure thing ;)
Not yet! :P
Werewolves coming back into form, and Badgers hoping to get Higgins back to bolster their forward line come finals ;)
A SURE THING GL! A SURE THING!
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 17, 2016, 02:54:17 PM
Quote from: GoLions on June 17, 2016, 02:50:05 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 17, 2016, 02:48:01 PM
Quote from: GoLions on June 17, 2016, 02:06:07 PM
Reckon the Hurricanes will be the team to beat though
Premiership a sure thing ;)
Not yet! :P
Werewolves coming back into form, and Badgers hoping to get Higgins back to bolster their forward line come finals ;)
A SURE THING GL! A SURE THING!
Only the Minor Premiership :P
Quote from: GoLions on June 17, 2016, 02:49:20 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 17, 2016, 02:41:13 PM
Euro will get killed.
Our top 3 isnt even in the comp
On points scored, only 1 team from your top 3 is missing ;)
British missing 4 of their top 8 on points scored, 3 from top 8 of ladder
Hedgies, and Owls would have made us a force to be reckoned with!
Yeah its my team :P the top of the ladder second on points Hulks.
watch out next year though.
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 17, 2016, 09:11:33 AM
Only like, two uncompetitive teams in Worlds atm, and one of them is largely due to their best players being injured. Wouldn't the multiplier last year have been effected just as much by the uncompetitive teams in the other comps?
How many of those does each comp have btw, just for curiosities sake?
#ThePointsCapWorks #AndIGuessGoodCoaches
The discrepency between the top tier teams in some comps and the bottom tier teams was massive and flowered up the multipliers (numbers posted are the averages for the teams in the comp last year, while the multipliers were using the overall average)
Quote from: Ziplock on July 14, 2015, 06:12:00 PM
So I just did the averages using these numbers and the multipliers
British worlds asians euros
2285 2094 3015 1348
2249 1923 2944 1347
2196 1898 2749 1271
2167 1891 2746 1208
2164 1855 2722 1288
2149 1843 2710 1234
2148 1839 2684 1195
2129 1781 2796 1204
so the raw averages (for points scored this season) are
British: 2185
Worlds: 1891
Asians: 2795
Euros: 1261
So with the mulipliers
British: 2169
Worlds: 1891
Asians: 2151
Euros: 1279
I think (asians?) are skewed because they play during the byes and nobody else does, so their number (I'm estimating) should be around 1840. The euros numbers are only taken from the from 9 euros rounds, rather than 10 (which I think is the number everyone else played?), so their actual average should be around 1400.
That's still a pretty chronically skewed competition... is british that uneven?
Also got to remember that Worlds has extra methods which allow for more points being scored, those bonuses which won't be used in CL. (I.e Resting)
When I work out the multiplier I will explain how I have done it so everyone is clear. I can't remember what we did last year but I remember helping out in getting it done so was probably my fault :P
I'd personally suggest using the averages from this years top 8 (so not necessarily the teams that are in champions league)- it might skew it a bit if you have huge risers (like hungary in euros), but honestly the larger concern for skewing imo would be the big fallers.
How about taking the best XV for each team (in the CL) based on averages (ignoring any other bonuses) so far this season? Then averaging out that number with the other 7 teams from their comp to give us the average of the best team average?
Could also take the league average but exclude the top 2 and bottom 2 from each, limiting potential outliers.
Quote from: Ziplock on June 17, 2016, 03:56:15 PM
I'd personally suggest using the averages from this years top 8 (so not necessarily the teams that are in champions league)- it might skew it a bit if you have huge risers (like hungary in euros), but honestly the larger concern for skewing imo would be the big fallers.
But the teams currently in the top 8 of their respective leagues might not finish top 8 by the end of the season. Probably easiest just to use the averages of the teams actually competing I think. Otherwise we may as well just have the current top 8 scorers from each league competing.
Let's backtrack a bit.
Question: What is the point of having these multipliers to begin with?
Answer: Each league has different scoring systems, with different amounts of points handed out. So we need a number there which takes away the extra points certain systems have over others
So what is the best way to go about finding the skill multipliers? Technically the best way is to take every single player from every single match this season using all 4 scoring systems, and summing them all together. This will determine exactly how many more points SC players get over DT, and then compare them to the systems formerly known as sportsbet and sportal.
On first thought I thought this would be too difficult to work out, but it might not be that difficult actually. Does anyone know the British scoring system that can post it here? Cheers
So I have just done the following work:
Found out how many points on average a SC game hands out. (No prizes for guessing, I was just checking lol)
Converted this into average points per player and thus average you'd expect from 15 randomly chosen players on any given week.
Found the total number of DT points scored throughout the year, converted this to an average per game, average per player and thus average from 15 randomly chosen players.
Tallied up the amount of goals, kicks, tackles and marks for the season to date, and used this to give the number of sportsbet (AXV) points handed out this season. Did the same as the other two to give us an average per 15 players.
Could technically just go off the total points awarded for the season and work the multiplier out from there it's the same thing as I'm doing the same operations for each one
Just need BXV now...
British Scoring System:
Kick: 3 points
Handball: 1 point
Mark: 3 points
Tackle: 3 points
Hitout: 1 point
FF: 1 point
FA: -3 points
Goal: 6 points
Behind: 1 point
Contested Possession: 4 points
Clearance: 2 points
Effective Disposal: 2 points
Spoil: 2 points
Why did the British scoring system change? All the stats for the Sportal scoring system are available on the Afl website and can be dumped into a spreadsheet that can calculate the old scores.
Quote from: meow meow on June 17, 2016, 05:15:34 PM
Why did the British scoring system change? All the stats for the Sportal scoring system are available on the Afl website and can be dumped into a spreadsheet that can calculate the old scores.
I wasn't involved in British whilst we were using Sportal (and don't know what the exact scoring system was), but this is what was chosen when we started using Ultimate Footy this year.
Quote from: meow meow on June 17, 2016, 05:15:34 PM
Why did the British scoring system change? All the stats for the Sportal scoring system are available on the Afl website and can be dumped into a spreadsheet that can calculate the old scores.
Don't go there meow
Quote from: Ricochet on June 17, 2016, 07:21:51 PM
Quote from: meow meow on June 17, 2016, 05:15:34 PM
Why did the British scoring system change? All the stats for the Sportal scoring system are available on the Afl website and can be dumped into a spreadsheet that can calculate the old scores.
Don't go there meow
I do what I want!
I should make a new XV competition and design my own scoring system that takes out the SC bullshower (Rance) but also takes out the DT bullshower (+6 for a chip around mark and kick in the backline vs 2 for a hardball get, baulk, bounce, broken tackle, bounce, handball goal assist). Intergalactic XV's anyone? Dibs on Uranus ;)
Quote from: meow meow on June 17, 2016, 08:08:05 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 17, 2016, 07:21:51 PM
Quote from: meow meow on June 17, 2016, 05:15:34 PM
Why did the British scoring system change? All the stats for the Sportal scoring system are available on the Afl website and can be dumped into a spreadsheet that can calculate the old scores.
Don't go there meow
I do what I want!
I should make a new XV competition and design my own scoring system that takes out the SC bullshower (Rance) but also takes out the DT bullshower (+6 for a chip around mark and kick in the backline vs 2 for a hardball get, baulk, bounce, broken tackle, bounce, handball goal assist). Intergalactic XV's anyone? Dibs on Uranus ;)
Will compo be handed out in this comp? :P
Quote from: Purple 77 on June 17, 2016, 08:31:10 PM
Quote from: meow meow on June 17, 2016, 08:08:05 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 17, 2016, 07:21:51 PM
Quote from: meow meow on June 17, 2016, 05:15:34 PM
Why did the British scoring system change? All the stats for the Sportal scoring system are available on the Afl website and can be dumped into a spreadsheet that can calculate the old scores.
Don't go there meow
I do what I want!
I should make a new XV competition and design my own scoring system that takes out the SC bullshower (Rance) but also takes out the DT bullshower (+6 for a chip around mark and kick in the backline vs 2 for a hardball get, baulk, bounce, broken tackle, bounce, handball goal assist). Intergalactic XV's anyone? Dibs on Uranus ;)
Will compo be handed out in this comp? :P
Only to me.
I just had a go at designing a scoring system. Danger would have gotten 240, Selwood 161, Blic 103, Menzel 101, Bartel 99, Kersten 78, Lonergan 40, Stanley 16. Most of them fall somewhere in between DT and SC.
Quote from: GoLions on June 17, 2016, 04:52:08 PM
British Scoring System:
Kick: 3 points tick
Handball: 1 point tick
Mark: 3 points tick
Tackle: 3 points tick
Hitout: 1 point tick
FF: 1 point tick
FA: -3 points tick
Goal: 6 points tick
Behind: 1 point tick
Contested Possession: 4 points tick
Clearance: 2 points tick
Effective Disposal: 2 points tick
Spoil: 2 points cross
So I believe the effective disposal works like the following:
I kick the ball to a teammate = 5 points, kick to opposition = 3 points
?
Everything except spoils are on footywire :\
Aren't spoils on the AFL Match Day pages?
Quote from: PowerBug on June 18, 2016, 09:47:24 PM
Quote from: GoLions on June 17, 2016, 04:52:08 PM
British Scoring System:
Kick: 3 points tick
Handball: 1 point tick
Mark: 3 points tick
Tackle: 3 points tick
Hitout: 1 point tick
FF: 1 point tick
FA: -3 points tick
Goal: 6 points tick
Behind: 1 point tick
Contested Possession: 4 points tick
Clearance: 2 points tick
Effective Disposal: 2 points tick
Spoil: 2 points cross
So I believe the effective disposal works like the following:
I kick the ball to a teammate = 5 points, kick to opposition = 3 points
?
Everything except spoils are on footywire :\
Yeah that's it.
We have spoils stats for each player in UF, so someone could just give them to you if you want. I can't be bothered doing it atm though cause exams :P
Save the date: 25th June
Live group draw for the Champions League 2016
Starting at about 8:30pm AEST, the groups will be drawn for the Champions League of 2016
Hope to see you all there (Or should I say here?)
PowerBug
AWESUM!
Keen.
But geez we aren't going to be anywhere near strong enough to compete.
104 minutes to go
Quote from: PowerBug on June 25, 2016, 07:45:33 PM
104 minutes to go
fuark, going out at like 8:45ish, hopefully don't miss anything!
Quote from: GoLions on June 25, 2016, 07:46:41 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on June 25, 2016, 07:45:33 PM
104 minutes to go
fuark, going out at like 8:45ish, hopefully don't miss anything!
Probs will miss a bit. But my eagerness means I may start early :P
The Live Group Draw
How it will work:
- There are 8 groups which will have 4 teams in each them. Using the seeds on the opening page, teams will be drawn one by one (Just using a RNG on Excel, or a website, haven't worked out how I'll do that yet).
- Each group will be created to these guidelines:
-- 1 team from each of the 4 comps
-- 1 team from the following seeds: 1-2, 3-4, 5-6, 7-8
- From there we will have our groups :)
The teams and their seeds:
Seed | Worlds | Euros | British | Asians |
1 | Christchurch Saints | Macedonian Wolves | Liverpool Rams | Mongolian Lambs |
2 | Mexico City Suns | Serbian Eagles | Winchester Werewolves | Laos Elephants |
3 | Dublin Destroyers | English Lions | Huddersfield Hawks | UAE Tigers |
4 | Paris Nice Lyon Reindeers | Svalbard Valkyries | Hastings Hurricanes | Sri Lankan Strikers |
5 | Berlin Brewers | Belgian Bashers | Bradford Badgers | Australian Ales |
6 | Moscow Spetnaz | Iceland Polar Bears | Swansea Breakers | Kathmandu Eskimos |
7 | Pacific Islanders | Spanish Stallions | Crosby Cruisers | Bangladesh Bears |
8 | New York Revolution | Swiss Storm | Nottingham Hoods | Kuala Lumpar Crocodiles |
Cmon PNL and Iceland :P. Avoid those big dogs.
Perfectly timed to the main break of the Footy!
Alrighty, let's get this underway, the first bit can be done very quickly. Assigning the 1-2 seeds to lead off the 8 groups, and I guess be the group favourites (maybe not idk much about how much teams have changed over the offseason).
So without further ado....
Group A | Group B | Group C | Group D | Group E | Group F | Group G | Group H |
Macedonian Wolves | Winchester Werewolves | Christchurch Saints | Mongolian Lambs | Serbian Eagles | Laos Elephants | Liverpool Rams | Mexico City Suns |
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Now we go through it nice and slowly...
The 2nd team in Group A is out of the Worlds, British and Asians 3-4 seeds.
And that team is.....
Paris Nice Lyon Reindeers
Joining the Winchester Werewolves in Group B is....
Sri Lankan Strikers
You wouldn't mind being in Group G ;)
Quote from: GoLions on June 25, 2016, 09:39:24 PM
You wouldn't mind being in Group G ;)
Ouch on behalf of myself and Nige :'(
Quote from: fanTCfool on June 25, 2016, 09:40:25 PM
Quote from: GoLions on June 25, 2016, 09:39:24 PM
You wouldn't mind being in Group G ;)
Ouch on behalf of myself and Nige :'(
Well you're not in the 8, so probably not the strongest #1 seed :P
Group C: English Lions
Group D: Dublin Destroyers
The Groups:
Group A | Group B | Group C | Group D | Group E | Group F | Group G | Group H |
Macedonian Wolves | Winchester Werewolves | Christchurch Saints | Mongolian Lambs | Serbian Eagles | Laos Elephants | Liverpool Rams | Mexico City Suns |
Paris Nice Lyon Reindeers | Sri Lanka Strikers | English Lions | Dublin Destroyers | | | | |
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Group E: Hastings Hurricanes
Group F: Huddersfield Hawks
Pretty sure Dublin is not a team you want joining your group, especially whilst not at full strength :-\
And to round out the 2nd lot of teams:
Grou G: UAE Tigers
Group H: Svalbard Valkyries
The Groups:
Group A | Group B | Group C | Group D | Group E | Group F | Group G | Group H |
Macedonian Wolves | Winchester Werewolves | Christchurch Saints | Mongolian Lambs | Serbian Eagles | Laos Elephants | Liverpool Rams | Mexico City Suns |
Paris Nice Lyon Reindeers | Sri Lanka Strikers | English Lions | Dublin Destroyers | Hastings Hurricanes | Huddersfield Hawks | UAE Tigers | Svalbard Valkyries |
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I need to be careful I don't make any mistakes now so it might be a little slower for this round
That's an alright top seed to join for PNL!
We will now draw the 5th and 6th seeds into their groups.
Group A requires a British and Asians team, so we have 4 teams that can join that group.
Bradford Badgers congratulations!
Group B needs either a Worlds or Euros team.
Berlin Brewers will be the team to join them.
Group C need either a British or Asians team. There's 3 of those options available.
Aaaaaandddd.....
Swansea Breakers
Please don't land in Group D Iceland :-X.
Group D now. They need either a British or Euros team but the two red teams in this lot have already been drawn. So this will be a green team.
Belgian Bashers congratulations! (or not, I mean you've got Dublin... :-\)
Due to the way things fall, Group E is between the two Asians sides, and whichever isn't drawn there will end up in Group H.
So it is:
Kathmandu Eskimos in Group E
Australian Ales in Group H
Laos is my best bet, Rams have fallen away hard and the Storm just haven't had a lot of luck this season.
Moscow Spetnaz and Iceland Polar Bears are the last to team to be drawn into groups F and G. Either can go into either so here we go:
Group F: Iceland Polar Bears
Group G: Moscow Spetnaz
The Groups:
Group A | Group B | Group C | Group D | Group E | Group F | Group G | Group H |
Macedonian Wolves | Winchester Werewolves | Christchurch Saints | Mongolian Lambs | Serbian Eagles | Laos Elephants | Liverpool Rams | Mexico City Suns |
Paris Nice Lyon Reindeers | Sri Lanka Strikers | English Lions | Dublin Destroyers | Hastings Hurricanes | Huddersfield Hawks | UAE Tigers | Svalbard Valkyries |
Bradford Badgers | Berlin Brewers | Swansea Breakers | Belgian Bashers | Kathmandu Eskimos | Iceland Polar Bears | Moscow Spetnaz | Australian Ales |
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Which means that it's going to work out yay! The last round shouldn't take too long so straight onto it
Group A and Group C require Asians teams
Group B and Group G require Euros teams
Group D and Group H require British teams
Group E and Group F require Worlds teams
Group A: Kuala Lumpar Crocodiles
Group B: Spanish Stallions
Group C: Bangladesh Bears
Group D: Nottingham Hoods
Group E: New York Revolution
Group F: Pacific Islanders
Group G: Swiss Storm
Group H: Crosby Cruisers
Just waiting for all the British teams to Brexit this competition
Quote from: fanTCfool on June 25, 2016, 10:15:21 PM
Just waiting for all the British teams to Brexit this competition
I would laugh but I just received a PM from someone and I will have to make a change to the above :o
The Groups:
Group A | Group B | Group C | Group D | Group E | Group F | Group G | Group H |
Macedonian Wolves | Winchester Werewolves | Christchurch Saints | Mongolian Lambs | Serbian Eagles | Laos Elephants | Liverpool Rams | Mexico City Suns |
Paris Nice Lyon Reindeers | Sri Lanka Strikers | English Lions | Dublin Destroyers | Hastings Hurricanes | Huddersfield Hawks | UAE Tigers | Svalbard Valkyries |
Bradford Badgers | Berlin Brewers | Swansea Breakers | Belgian Bashers | Kathmandu Eskimos | Iceland Polar Bears | Moscow Spetnaz | Australian Ales |
Kuala Lumpar Crocodiles | Spanish Stallions | Bangladesh Bears | 9th Place from British* | New York Revolution | Pacific Islanders | Swiss Storm | Crosby Cruisers |
*See below post re: Nottingham Hoods
Hopefully it's just that the Hoods are in the wrong colour.
Quote from: fanTCfool on June 25, 2016, 10:25:13 PM
Hopefully it's just that the Hoods are in the wrong colour.
Oops my bad, but this announcement is about the Hoods :-\
The coach of the Hoods (LF) has decided that their team will NOT be participating in the Champions League this season, something to do with LF being a chance at winning real DT and real money idk pretty lame excuse :P (I kid of course). But yeah so the Hoods drop out, and the 9th placed team from British from last year (unsure who that is) will come into that spot.
Rams and Storm in the same (and probably the weakest) group! :o
this comp discriminated against AXVIII i'm protesting
(http://imgur.com/dafZHRr.jpg)
Well it was the XV Champs league :P.
Decent groups for my teams, but reckon PNL the strongest chance to progress unless my backline comes back for Iceland (scoring wise)!
Quote from: PowerBug on June 25, 2016, 10:28:14 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on June 25, 2016, 10:25:13 PM
Hopefully it's just that the Hoods are in the wrong colour.
Oops my bad, but this announcement is about the Hoods :-\
The coach of the Hoods (LF) has decided that their team will NOT be participating in the Champions League this season, something to do with LF being a chance at winning real DT and real money idk pretty lame excuse :P (I kid of course). But yeah so the Hoods drop out, and the 9th placed team from British from last year (unsure who that is) will come into that spot.
That's us I think.
I seem to recall us winning the Minor Shield last season.
Shame that the 2nd best team out of all XVs isn't a chance of winning cause of the multiplier. Should still make it a fair way in though.
Quote from: Hellopplz on June 25, 2016, 11:04:43 PM
Well it was the XV Champs league :P.
Decent groups for my teams, but reckon PNL the strongest chance to progress unless my backline comes back for Iceland (scoring wise)!
Group A very very strong imo, very annoyed that the Crocs were the last team in as well :P
Quote from: nrich102 on June 25, 2016, 11:24:59 PM
Shame that the 2nd best team out of all XVs isn't a chance of winning cause of the multiplier. Should still make it a fair way in though.
Assuming you're talking about your Euros team, I'm more than happy to use raw scores and have all British teams absolutely dominate :)
Was great reading back through all that :)
Despite Berlin slipping waaaaaay out of the eight, we're still a top 8 scoring team, and that's been without Fyfe, Hibberd, Michael Johnson and the real Brad Crouch.
Bring it group B!!!
Most likely that KL are going to have to wait until next year to make a real impact when Beams Bennell and Dahlhaus return
http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,104747.0.html
It's confirmed, ;D
Quote from: Torpedo10 on June 26, 2016, 11:42:32 AM
http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,104747.0.html
It's confirmed, ;D
Is the plate final your bottom 8 finals competition?
Quote from: PowerBug on June 26, 2016, 12:33:27 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on June 26, 2016, 11:42:32 AM
http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,104747.0.html
It's confirmed, ;D
Is the plate final your bottom 8 finals competition?
Yes
Quote from: Torpedo10 on June 26, 2016, 02:39:58 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on June 26, 2016, 12:33:27 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on June 26, 2016, 11:42:32 AM
http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,104747.0.html
It's confirmed, ;D
Is the plate final your bottom 8 finals competition?
Yes
Yep, Magic will be the final British team in Champs League
It's a shame they're in one of the toughest groups. :P
Anyone involved with British that wants to help me? Looking through UF for my AXV side, it looks as if I can work out how many of each stat each player has had for the season. What I need from BXV is hte spoil count. I want the spoil count for every player that has played for the entire season hahaaaa. Or better than that would be find a way to get the total spoil count for the season without needing to add up every player...
Quote from: PowerBug on June 30, 2016, 04:35:52 PM
Anyone involved with British that wants to help me? Looking through UF for my AXV side, it looks as if I can work out how many of each stat each player has had for the season. What I need from BXV is hte spoil count. I want the spoil count for every player that has played for the entire season hahaaaa. Or better than that would be find a way to get the total spoil count for the season without needing to add up every player...
I'll see if I can do that when I get home tonight :)
Unless someone can do it before then haha, but please let me know if so :P
btw had a thought i think teams should be selected like top 8 top scoring teams not from the ladder
something to think about for future anyway
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 03, 2016, 06:20:35 PM
btw had a thought i think teams should be selected like top 8 top scoring teams not from the ladder
something to think about for future anyway
That would be a smart way to do it, but unfair to teams that are actually up there on the ladder. Given the ladder does require luck sometimes, but it shows the teams can win when they need to.
A team could be 8th on the ladder but 9th on points and miss out. Would that seem right? :-X
Quote from: Hellopplz on July 04, 2016, 09:35:15 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 03, 2016, 06:20:35 PM
btw had a thought i think teams should be selected like top 8 top scoring teams not from the ladder
something to think about for future anyway
That would be a smart way to do it, but unfair to teams that are actually up there on the ladder. Given the ladder does require luck sometimes, but it shows the teams can win when they need to.
A team could be 8th on the ladder but 9th on points and miss out. Would that seem right? :-X
imo yes
So i guess the AFL should get rid of wins/losses/percentage and just give spots to the most attacking
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on July 04, 2016, 09:47:19 PM
So i guess the AFL should get rid of wins/losses/percentage and just give spots to the most attacking
that's different scenario this is fantasy where teams don't actually defend man
i'm just saying Swansea from BXV don't deserve to be in it very luck to be in the top 8
if you want the best 8 steams it should be by scoring is all i'm saying
But that's the beauty of it, any team can get the wins on their day, just like real life!
If we work on point scorers, Serbia would have won like the past 3 EXV titles, instead we've had different winners every year through upsets. I'm not just saying this cause Iceland was one of them and Lewis went 144 as Captain, but I like that it's not just total points!
Adds some elements of luck to a few of the lower teams, whereas the big teams who already are top scorers would already be in the league.
it's just down to if you want the best 8 or the top 8 i prefer best 8
i'm not saying this comp is decided by that either but just to get in
and not saying all XV's should be ran like that just saying to make this comp the most competitive it can be it should be highest scoring 8 to get in
And of course that means instead of group stages which mean we have luck invoked we will just tally the total points scored by each team over the 8 week period and give the title to the highest scoring.
Actually don't bother naming teams because that will mean you might not name you highest scoring players so each week the next XV scorers will be taken for each teams score.
What's the point of playing if there's no luck involved?? We would all know the answer beforehand and there'd be no point.
no need to get so defensive was just voicing an idea
and if u even read my other posts i only want that to be the way teams got in now how the comp is won so the comp is as competitve as possible
Just remember this is based on ladder positions from last year as per the current guidelines not current year and Breakers were the 5th highest scoring team last year so deserve their place. The ladder from last year showed that the Top 8 were the Top 8 scorers and positions 1 - 6 were points scored in order as well and only 20 points difference between 7 & 8 so it is effective.
We could change to use this years after x number of rounds but this is fraught with danger given the draw with some teams not having played the weaker teams in the various competitions.
The Groups:
Group A | Group B | Group C | Group D | Group E | Group F | Group G | Group H |
Macedonian Wolves | Winchester Werewolves | Christchurch Saints | Mongolian Lambs | Serbian Eagles | Laos Elephants | Liverpool Rams | Mexico City Suns |
Paris Nice Lyon Reindeers | Sri Lanka Strikers | English Lions | Dublin Destroyers | Hastings Hurricanes | Huddersfield Hawks | UAE Tigers | Svalbard Valkyries |
Bradford Badgers | Berlin Brewers | Swansea Breakers | Belgian Bashers | Kathmandu Eskimos | Iceland Polar Bears | Moscow Spetnaz | Australian Ales |
Kuala Lumpar Crocodiles | Spanish Stallions | Bangladesh Bears | Manchester Magic | New York Revolution | Pacific Islanders | Swiss Storm | Wrexham Knights |
Group A:
Round 16:
Macedonian Wolves vs Bradford Badgers
Paris Nice Lyon Reindeers Kuala Lumpar Crocodiles
Round 17:
Kuala Lumpar Crocodiles vs Macedonian Wolves
Paris Nice Lyon Reindeers vs Bradford Badgers
Round 18:
Macedonian Wolves vs Paris Nice Lyon Reindeers
Bradford Badgers vs Kuala Lumpar Crocodiles
Group B:
Round 16:
Winchester Werewolves vs Berlin Brewers
Sri Lankan Strikers vs Spanish Stallions
Round 17:
Spanish Stallions vs Winchester Werewolves
Sri Lankan Strikers vs Berlin Brewers
Round 18:
Winchester Werewolves vs Sri Lankan Strikers
Berlin Brewers vs Spanish Stallions
Group C:
Round 16:
Christchurch Saints vs Swansea Breakers
English Lions vs Bangladesh Bears
Round 17:
Bangladesh Bears vs Christchurch Saints
English Lions vs Swansea Breakers
Round 18:
Christchurch Saints vs English Lions
Swansea Breakers vs Bangladesh Bears
Group D:
Round 16:
Mongolian Lambs vs Belgian Bashers
Dublin Destroyers vs Nottingham Hoods
Round 17:
Nottingham Hoods vs Mongolian Lambs
Dublin Destroyers vs Belgian Bashers
Round 18:
Mongolian Lambs vs Dublin Destroyers
Belgian Bashers vs Nottingham Hoods
Crosby are now Wrexham Knights btw.
Group E:
Round 16:
Serbian Eagles vs Kathmandu Eskimos
Hastings Hurricanes vs New York Revolution
Round 17:
New York Revolution vs Serbian Eagles
Hastings Hurricanes vs Kathmandu Eskimos
Round 18:
Serbian Eagles vs Hastings Hurricanes
Kathmandu Eskimos vs New York Revolution
Group F:
Round 16:
Laos Elephants vs Iceland Polar Bears
Huddersfield Hawks vs Pacific Islanders
Round 17:
Pacific Islanders vs Laos Elephants
Huddersfield Hawks vs Iceland Polar Bears
Round 18:
Laos Elephants vs Huddersfield Hawks
Iceland Polar Bears vs Pacific Islanders
Group G:
Round 16:
Liverpool Rams vs Moscow Spetnaz
UAE Tigers vs Swiss Storm
Round 17:
Swiss Storm vs Liverpool Rams
UAE Tigers vs Moscow Spetnaz
Round 18:
Liverpool Rams vs UAE Tigers
Moscow Spetnaz vs Swiss Storm
Group H:
Round 16:
Mexico City Suns vs Australian Ales
Svalbard Valkyries vs Wrexham Knights
Round 17:
Wrexham Knights vs Mexico City Suns
Svalbard Valkyries vs Australian Ales
Round 18:
Mexico City Suns vs Svalbard Valkyries
Australian Ales vs Wrexham Knights
Amazingly I think I've managed to work all this out!
Apart from the fact I've just looked into group strength, and I think my team is like Australia in the 2014 Soccer World Cup. That's how big an outsider we are. :-[ (At least it's proof I haven't rigged it haha)
Tomorrow will be the preview day multipliers are sorted, groups and fixtures are sorted, rules are sorted (yet to be posted).
THE HYPE!
I hope another Christchurch-like team wins it tbh
Group G, Round 17 is legit gonna be the pinnacle of the comp for me haha.
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 06, 2016, 10:55:47 AM
THE HYPE!
I hope another Christchurch-like team wins it tbh
There ain't no other team more Christchurch-like than Christchurch so we'll go back to back to make you happy.
Alright, so this is probably the biggest and most controversial post of the lot, the multipliers. The method I used to work out the multiplier was to look at each teams ladder after AFL Round 12, see how many points each of the teams in the Champions League had for the season, sum it, average it (As Euros only played 10 rounds, the rest 12) and then work out what we are multiplying by.
Then, to see how it all stacks up, I ranked all the teams average score per week based on the multiplier and then averaged out the ranking for each comps' teams (You'll see below).
So, the numbers:
Worlds: 1.0000
Euros: 1.1378
British: 0.6284
Asians: 0.7460
So if I now look at each teams average score per week, rank them you get the following averages:
Worlds: 16.50
Euros: 17.00
British: 16.63
Asians: 15.88
Which makes enough sense to me as being close enough to fair. Asians is probably the most uneven of the competitions and the aim is to find the best team in all of XVs, so I don't think it's unreasonable that the best (as a collective group) of the AXV sides are oh so slightly better than the best of the other comps. In the top 4 there's one from each comp, top 16 theres 3 Worlds, 4 Euros, 4 British, 5 Asians. (Worlds then have 17th, 18th, 20th though).
I looked into altering the multiplier by taking out the Asians VC bonus score (Where I used a VC scoring 120 points). This altered the multiplier to favour the AXV teams too much more, then I took out the VC scores but still used the 0.7460 multiplier and that basically sent all the teams to the bottom. I think what we have now works well, there will always be complaints or questions asked, but I think I've shown enough to say that it's as fair a system as we will likely get :)
Looking at these numbers it does show that some groups are move competitive than others, but that's the luck of the draw for you :) Will put some numbers up before the round starts. Do look at the opening post and the other two thread though for important notes regarding naming teams and knockout rules.
Might want to remove the resting bonus from WXV scores since we can't use it in this comp. Purps might be able to help.
Nah, scrap that idea. It'll be minimal anyway. Not worth the effort.
HGA should be removed though.
Yep, more than willing to help out in any way throughout the comp :)
Can WXV teams name captains outside of their leadership group in this competition? Shaun McKernan is looming ominously.
What's the go with team submission and Thursday games?
Thursday night players locked in and remainder of team can be modified until bounce of Friday night game?
Quote from: Rusty00 on July 06, 2016, 04:11:50 PM
What's the go with team submission and Thursday games?
Thursday night players locked in and remainder of team can be modified until bounce of Friday night game?
Rolling lockout all weekend I believe.
Quote from: meow meow on July 06, 2016, 02:49:58 PM
HGA should be removed though.
I believe every comp has HGA (maybe not British?). But still the multipliers currently show for an even comp would you agree?
Yep rolling lockout all week.
Name whoever you want as captain.
CRAP! Just found an error. Those multipliers are going to change.
Okay believe have solved that error. The numbers I was looking at for the Worlds sides were wayyy off what they actually were.
Quote from: meow meow on July 06, 2016, 04:07:25 PM
Can WXV teams name captains outside of their leadership group in this competition? Shaun McKernan is looming ominously.
Flowering McKernan >:(.
In WXV if a player gets injured and doesn't play in the 2nd half, they will be replaced by a bench player. In AXV there is no such safety net.
What rule will you be using in Champs League?
Quote from: upthemaidens on July 07, 2016, 09:53:19 PM
In WXV if a player gets injured and doesn't play in the 2nd half, they will be replaced by a bench player. In AXV there is no such safety net.
What rule will you be using in Champs League?
Was just wondering this as well. In British if a player spends less than 20% time on ground he is allowed to be subbed.
No subs in CL. Compensation is full lockout loopholing.
Quote from: PowerBug on July 08, 2016, 12:10:09 AM
No subs in CL. Compensation is full lockout loopholing.
No help though in the Ebert case :( So will be behind the eightball now but them the rules and we will abide by them.
Quote from: Ringo on July 08, 2016, 08:55:35 AM
Quote from: PowerBug on July 08, 2016, 12:10:09 AM
No subs in CL. Compensation is full lockout loopholing.
No help though in the Ebert case :( So will be behind the eightball now but them the rules and we will abide by them.
I got Ebert too Ringo and I'm just as disappointed. I got him in SC too which is even more annoying.
I have a lot of questions to attend to and just woke up and will clear them up soon.
The Badgers will hope to regain Michael Barlow, Nick Dal Santo, Jesse Lonergan, and Tom Cutler this week.
And hopefully not lose Liberatore :(
Quote from: GoLions on July 11, 2016, 04:15:15 PM
The Badgers will hope to regain Michael Barlow, Nick Dal Santo, Jesse Lonergan, and Tom Cutler this week.
And hopefully not lose Liberatore :(
The Werewolves will hope to regain Nathan Fyfe, Jarryd Roughead, Luke Dahlhaus, Tom Bell and Jackson Thurlow this week.
And hopefully not lose Ablett :(
Quote from: Rusty00 on July 11, 2016, 04:48:28 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 11, 2016, 04:15:15 PM
The Badgers will hope to regain Michael Barlow, Nick Dal Santo, Jesse Lonergan, and Tom Cutler this week.
And hopefully not lose Liberatore :(
The Werewolves will hope to regain Nathan Fyfe, Jarryd Roughead, Luke Dahlhaus, Tom Bell and Jackson Thurlow this week.
And hopefully not lose Ablett :(
You got my hopes up for a moment there with Fyfe >:( ever since he went down, I've resigned to the fact Berlin wouldn't seriously challenge in Worlds :(
If Hastings can some how lose 300 points from their score this week that would be nice. Then I only need to gain about 200 which is possible
Quote from: PowerBug on July 11, 2016, 05:10:07 PM
If Hastings can some how lose 300 points from their score this week that would be nice. Then I only need to gain about 200 which is possible
This week was their lowest score since Round 10, where they would have scored marginally less in Champs :P
British teams won 6/8 matches, other comps should try gitting gud
Quote from: GoLions on July 11, 2016, 05:52:53 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on July 11, 2016, 05:10:07 PM
If Hastings can some how lose 300 points from their score this week that would be nice. Then I only need to gain about 200 which is possible
This week was their lowest score since Round 10, where they would have scored marginally less in Champs :P
Dont jynx me GoLions ;), i really need Wellsy back if im to take it to the next level :P
Quote from: GoLions on July 11, 2016, 05:53:29 PM
British teams won 6/8 matches, other comps should try gitting gud
Actually, I spoke too soon. Euros won 7, only losing to yours truly :P
Quote from: GoLions on July 11, 2016, 05:56:43 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 11, 2016, 05:53:29 PM
British teams won 6/8 matches, other comps should try gitting gud
Actually, I spoke too soon. Euros won 7, only losing to yours truly :P
Im not sure how the multiplyers work but is it possible that the comps with more teams have a disadvantage (eg. Worlds) because good players are more dilute?
Quote from: iZander on July 11, 2016, 06:00:16 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 11, 2016, 05:56:43 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 11, 2016, 05:53:29 PM
British teams won 6/8 matches, other comps should try gitting gud
Actually, I spoke too soon. Euros won 7, only losing to yours truly :P
Im not sure how the multiplyers work but is it possible that the comps with more teams have a disadvantage (eg. Worlds) because good players are more dilute?
Nah, the multipliers should account for that
Quote from: GoLions on July 11, 2016, 06:03:09 PM
Quote from: iZander on July 11, 2016, 06:00:16 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 11, 2016, 05:56:43 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 11, 2016, 05:53:29 PM
British teams won 6/8 matches, other comps should try gitting gud
Actually, I spoke too soon. Euros won 7, only losing to yours truly :P
Im not sure how the multiplyers work but is it possible that the comps with more teams have a disadvantage (eg. Worlds) because good players are more dilute?
Nah, the multipliers should account for that
cool, must be a complicated multiplying :P
The top 3 teams in worlds lost this week in worlds, so I'd just put it down to freak coincidence
British will have an advantage if they don't have HGA. All the other comps averages were worked out with HGA included, which they no longer get.
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 11, 2016, 06:21:11 PM
The top 3 teams in worlds lost this week in worlds, so I'd just put it down to freak coincidence
Just the inferior comp i reckon Purps ;)
Also things like Worlds players out before half time get replaced where was its less time/no time in other comps, which would have an effect as well. :D
Quote from: meow meow on July 11, 2016, 06:22:17 PM
British will have an advantage if they don't have HGA. All the other comps averages were worked out with HGA included, which they no longer get.
That'd only be 10ppg though, correct? And also as iZander mentioned, you guys get replacements who are out of the game before HT, whereas British is basically in the first quarter, so that probably balances it out :P (directly comparing British with Worlds btw)
I think we are being a bit picky here tbh :P
Oh there's so much more I feel like I could've done to make it even better. I'm a bit worried that the Euros one is a bit too high and the AXV one is too low, but it's one week, let's see what happens in the next two weeks :)
ICELAND! ICELAND! ICELAND! Top scored for the first round yeah? :D :D :D
PNL also put on a fine showing 8). Now to knock off the Badgers and prove dominance in Group A.
Quote from: Hellopplz on July 12, 2016, 09:07:58 PM
ICELAND! ICELAND! ICELAND! Top scored for the first round yeah? :D :D :D
PNL also put on a fine showing 8). Now to knock off the Badgers and prove dominance in Group A.
Probably won't be too hard this week, could have half my midfield and forward line out :'(
Quote from: iZander on July 11, 2016, 06:05:42 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 11, 2016, 06:03:09 PM
Quote from: iZander on July 11, 2016, 06:00:16 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 11, 2016, 05:56:43 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 11, 2016, 05:53:29 PM
British teams won 6/8 matches, other comps should try gitting gud
Actually, I spoke too soon. Euros won 7, only losing to yours truly :P
Im not sure how the multiplyers work but is it possible that the comps with more teams have a disadvantage (eg. Worlds) because good players are more dilute?
Nah, the multipliers should account for that
cool, must be a complicated multiplying :P
nah a basic multiplier should have accounted for that
Can we get a hub for like fixtures and results for the champs league? Would be nice to see them all housed in one thread.
Quote from: Nige on July 17, 2016, 07:03:03 PM
Can we get a hub for like fixtures and results for the champs league? Would be nice to see them all housed in one thread.
lots of things I need to do... So far behind.
I haven't even put in the teams for this round into my spreadsheet gonna be a long night ahead :/
cue the hate :-[
If I can get time to sit down and work on this tonight I will sort all this shower out argghghhhh
Stop wasting time on FTP and you'll have this all done tonight. :P
I'm not even mad/sad cause it would get quite hectic trying to juggle so many teams with the multipliers and stuff :-X.
Still can't believe Dublin has been knocked out... if we're honest, them and Mexico City are our only legitimate hopes at a Worlds team taking home the CL trophy for the second year :-X
With that being said, never fear! BERLIN IS STILL HERE!
Let's go my Brewers! And I suppose PNL and Mexico City... is 3 v 13 in my eyes :P
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 28, 2016, 11:00:15 AM
Still can't believe Dublin has been knocked out... if we're honest, them and Mexico City are our only legitimate hopes at a Worlds team taking home the CL trophy for the second year :-X
With that being said, never fear! BERLIN IS STILL HERE!
Let's go my Brewers! And I suppose PNL and Mexico City... is 3 v 13 in my eyes :P
If you're honest there was no hope with 6 British teams getting through ;) #GoBritish