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Title: Blues Best 22
Post by: King Cripps on October 29, 2015, 07:18:26 PM
FB: Docherty Jamison Plowman
HB Tuohy Weitering Buckley
C: Simpson Gibbs Graham
HF: Walker ROWE Boekhurst
FF: Everett Casboult Thomas
R: Kreuzer Cripps Murphy

Int: Curnow, Kerridge, Lamb, Sumner (pick 8, 11 and 19 maybe)

Emg: Phillips, Jaksch, White

I think putting Rowe up forward would solve a lot of problems, Take the attention of Casboult and Everett a little and give time to guys like Plowman, Weitering and Jaksch to develop down back.

What are your guys thoughts on this?

Title: Re: Blues Best 22
Post by: T Dog on October 29, 2015, 08:09:24 PM
Daisy over Curnow and Graham as a starter, are interesting choices.
Kerridge could be anything if he gets a run.
Rowe as a starter would be sensational.
Ruck back up still a concern though.
My interest is mainly in Americas of course  ;D
Title: Re: Blues Best 22
Post by: meow meow on October 29, 2015, 08:17:32 PM
Asking Weitering to come in and take a KPD spot is a bit too much. Would keep Rowe down back and play Weitering as the 3rd tall. Move Mr Plow to the bench at the expense of Sumner and then bring Jaksch in at CHF.
Title: Re: Blues Best 22
Post by: King Cripps on October 29, 2015, 08:19:08 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 29, 2015, 08:17:32 PM
Asking Weitering to come in and take a KPD spot is a bit too much. Would keep Rowe down back and play Weitering as the 3rd tall. Move Mr Plow to the bench at the expense of Sumner and then bring Jaksch in at CHF.
That sounds good! Would we really want 4 tall defenders though!?
Title: Re: Blues Best 22
Post by: meow meow on October 29, 2015, 08:24:20 PM
Quote from: King Cripps on October 29, 2015, 08:19:08 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 29, 2015, 08:17:32 PM
Asking Weitering to come in and take a KPD spot is a bit too much. Would keep Rowe down back and play Weitering as the 3rd tall. Move Mr Plow to the bench at the expense of Sumner and then bring Jaksch in at CHF.
That sounds good! Would we really want 4 tall defenders though!?

Plowman can play anywhere, he shouldn't really be played as a KPD. Plus Jamison will probably be injured most of the season like always.
Title: Re: Blues Best 22
Post by: King Cripps on October 29, 2015, 09:42:52 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 29, 2015, 08:24:20 PM
Quote from: King Cripps on October 29, 2015, 08:19:08 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 29, 2015, 08:17:32 PM
Asking Weitering to come in and take a KPD spot is a bit too much. Would keep Rowe down back and play Weitering as the 3rd tall. Move Mr Plow to the bench at the expense of Sumner and then bring Jaksch in at CHF.
That sounds good! Would we really want 4 tall defenders though!?

Plowman can play anywhere, he shouldn't really be played as a KPD. Plus Jamison will probably be injured most of the season like always.
Hahaha. That's probably true.
Title: Re: Blues Best 22
Post by: Mat0369 on October 30, 2015, 12:59:38 AM
Plowman has the body type similar to Ben Stratton. Stratton who was forced to play tall early in his career plays on the medium/small forwards most weeks. I wouldn't be surprised if that's what he has been recruited for.
Title: Re: Blues Best 22
Post by: King Cripps on October 30, 2015, 07:46:08 AM
Docherty Jamison Rowe
Tuohy Weitering Buckley
Graham Curnow Simpson
Gibbs Jaksch Walker
Thomas Casboult Everett
Kreuzer Cripps Murphy

Plowman, Kerridge, Lamb, Boekhurst, Sumner, White, Phillips, Tutt, Dick, Whiley and Byrne to all feature through out the year.

(8, 11 and 19 may all push players out)

That is actually starting too look like a nice side. My only real concern is who we ask to pinch into the ruck.
Title: Re: Blues Best 22
Post by: nrich102 on November 17, 2015, 07:51:29 AM
How many games can you guys see DVR getting?
Title: Re: Blues Best 22
Post by: King Cripps on November 17, 2015, 09:03:00 AM
Quote from: nrich102 on November 17, 2015, 07:51:29 AM
How many games can you guys see DVR getting?
I see him coming in later in the year when a few of the older guys need a rest or when injury strikes probably 6-7 I reckon.
Title: Re: Blues Best 22
Post by: King Cripps on November 25, 2015, 12:57:50 PM
Do you guys this Weitering, McKay, Curnow and Cunningham could all be out there come
Round 1?
Title: Re: Blues Best 22
Post by: blue on November 25, 2015, 03:13:36 PM
Quote from: King Cripps on November 25, 2015, 12:57:50 PM
Do you guys this Weitering, McKay, Curnow and Cunningham could all be out there come
Round 1?
I can't see McKay but the other 3 have a chance. I real hope that at least 1 does.
Title: Re: Blues Best 22
Post by: Holz on November 25, 2015, 03:16:26 PM
Quote from: blue on November 25, 2015, 03:13:36 PM
Quote from: King Cripps on November 25, 2015, 12:57:50 PM
Do you guys this Weitering, McKay, Curnow and Cunningham could all be out there come
Round 1?
I can't see McKay but the other 3 have a chance. I real hope that at least 1 does.

no reason why Weitering doesnt play 16+ in my books. You would think Curnow should be a good shot given you need forwards.
Title: Re: Blues Best 22
Post by: Toga on November 25, 2015, 03:27:05 PM
Word is that Curnow is still pretty raw though so might take some time to develop before he's ready. Really nice draft for the Blues though :)
Title: Re: Blues Best 22
Post by: blue on November 25, 2015, 04:02:58 PM
Quote from: Toga on November 25, 2015, 03:27:05 PM
Word is that Curnow is still pretty raw though so might take some time to develop before he's ready. Really nice draft for the Blues though :)
I just read that statement. Twomey said he's a bit raw at times and needs to refine a few things. What the flower does that mean?
Title: Re: Blues Best 22
Post by: elephants on November 25, 2015, 04:04:10 PM
Quote from: blue on November 25, 2015, 04:02:58 PM
Quote from: Toga on November 25, 2015, 03:27:05 PM
Word is that Curnow is still pretty raw though so might take some time to develop before he's ready. Really nice draft for the Blues though :)
I just read that statement. Twomey said he's a bit raw at times and needs to refine a few things. What the flower does that mean?

Maybe his decision making needs work... Like getting behind the wheel after a few bevvies :p
Title: Re: Blues Best 22
Post by: Money Shot on November 28, 2015, 08:43:49 PM
(Just read through this now)

Although I agree with KC and think it would be better for out team if Rowe was at CHF I think he is a better defender and the club obviously likes him more there as he come 5th in the best and fairest.

Think Jaksch has potential to be a really good Key Forward how ever.
Title: Re: Blues Best 22
Post by: powersuperkents on December 05, 2015, 12:21:04 AM
Obviously Curnow will get anywhere between 5-15 games next season (barring unforeseen injury). I see them starting him as a second or third tall (a mobile, rather than stationary tall though).

What sort of an impact do Carlton supporters see him having?

Is he potentially SC relevant in his debut season if named as a forward? 
Title: Re: Blues Best 22
Post by: Money Shot on December 05, 2015, 06:58:55 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on December 05, 2015, 12:21:04 AM
Obviously Curnow will get anywhere between 5-15 games next season (barring unforeseen injury). I see them starting him as a second or third tall (a mobile, rather than stationary tall though).

What sort of an impact do Carlton supporters see him having?

Is he potentially SC relevant in his debut season if named as a forward?
He won't be a huge scorer at first  but if he is named round one you would have to look at him.
Title: Re: Blues Best 22
Post by: powersuperkents on December 06, 2015, 12:53:52 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on December 05, 2015, 06:58:55 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on December 05, 2015, 12:21:04 AM
Obviously Curnow will get anywhere between 5-15 games next season (barring unforeseen injury). I see them starting him as a second or third tall (a mobile, rather than stationary tall though).

What sort of an impact do Carlton supporters see him having?

Is he potentially SC relevant in his debut season if named as a forward?
He won't be a huge scorer at first  but if he is named round one you would have to look at him.
Cheers mate  :)

In the TAC cup I didn't see him lose a contest (marking or in the midfield).

On day I picture this kid being the best contested forward in the comp. Teams will want to stop him, however the best contested defender in the league will also be in Carlton (i.e. Weitering).
Title: Re: Blues Best 22
Post by: Big Mac on December 06, 2015, 03:37:25 AM
Quote from: powersuperkents on December 06, 2015, 12:53:52 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on December 05, 2015, 06:58:55 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on December 05, 2015, 12:21:04 AM
Obviously Curnow will get anywhere between 5-15 games next season (barring unforeseen injury). I see them starting him as a second or third tall (a mobile, rather than stationary tall though).

What sort of an impact do Carlton supporters see him having?

Is he potentially SC relevant in his debut season if named as a forward?
He won't be a huge scorer at first  but if he is named round one you would have to look at him.
Cheers mate  :)

In the TAC cup I didn't see him lose a contest (marking or in the midfield).

On day I picture this kid being the best contested forward in the comp. Teams will want to stop him, however the best contested defender in the league will also be in Carlton (i.e. Weitering).

You're forgetting Hogan  ;)
Title: Re: Blues Best 22
Post by: powersuperkents on December 06, 2015, 12:28:37 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on December 06, 2015, 03:37:25 AM
Quote from: powersuperkents on December 06, 2015, 12:53:52 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on December 05, 2015, 06:58:55 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on December 05, 2015, 12:21:04 AM
Obviously Curnow will get anywhere between 5-15 games next season (barring unforeseen injury). I see them starting him as a second or third tall (a mobile, rather than stationary tall though).

What sort of an impact do Carlton supporters see him having?

Is he potentially SC relevant in his debut season if named as a forward?
He won't be a huge scorer at first  but if he is named round one you would have to look at him.
Cheers mate  :)

In the TAC cup I didn't see him lose a contest (marking or in the midfield).

On day I picture this kid being the best contested forward in the comp. Teams will want to stop him, however the best contested defender in the league will also be in Carlton (i.e. Weitering).

You're forgetting Hogan  ;)
I literally did while writing that 

I rate Hogan more highly than Curnow, but I think Hogan is a primary target, while Curnow will be a second tall (having the two in one team would be an incredible combination). I think Curnow was easily the best forward in this year's draft (yes I rate him more highly than Schache & Weideman).
Title: Re: Blues Best 22
Post by: Holz on December 09, 2015, 03:15:42 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on December 06, 2015, 12:28:37 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on December 06, 2015, 03:37:25 AM
Quote from: powersuperkents on December 06, 2015, 12:53:52 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on December 05, 2015, 06:58:55 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on December 05, 2015, 12:21:04 AM
Obviously Curnow will get anywhere between 5-15 games next season (barring unforeseen injury). I see them starting him as a second or third tall (a mobile, rather than stationary tall though).

What sort of an impact do Carlton supporters see him having?

Is he potentially SC relevant in his debut season if named as a forward?
He won't be a huge scorer at first  but if he is named round one you would have to look at him.
Cheers mate  :)

In the TAC cup I didn't see him lose a contest (marking or in the midfield).

On day I picture this kid being the best contested forward in the comp. Teams will want to stop him, however the best contested defender in the league will also be in Carlton (i.e. Weitering).

You're forgetting Hogan  ;)
I literally did while writing that 

I rate Hogan more highly than Curnow, but I think Hogan is a primary target, while Curnow will be a second tall (having the two in one team would be an incredible combination). I think Curnow was easily the best forward in this year's draft (yes I rate him more highly than Schache & Weideman).

You're forgetting Rance. Reckon Weitering will be the second best Key Defender.

Title: Re: Blues Best 22
Post by: powersuperkents on December 09, 2015, 03:48:47 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 09, 2015, 03:15:42 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on December 06, 2015, 12:28:37 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on December 06, 2015, 03:37:25 AM
Quote from: powersuperkents on December 06, 2015, 12:53:52 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on December 05, 2015, 06:58:55 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on December 05, 2015, 12:21:04 AM
Obviously Curnow will get anywhere between 5-15 games next season (barring unforeseen injury). I see them starting him as a second or third tall (a mobile, rather than stationary tall though).

What sort of an impact do Carlton supporters see him having?

Is he potentially SC relevant in his debut season if named as a forward?
He won't be a huge scorer at first  but if he is named round one you would have to look at him.
Cheers mate  :)

In the TAC cup I didn't see him lose a contest (marking or in the midfield).

On day I picture this kid being the best contested forward in the comp. Teams will want to stop him, however the best contested defender in the league will also be in Carlton (i.e. Weitering).

You're forgetting Hogan  ;)
I literally did while writing that 

I rate Hogan more highly than Curnow, but I think Hogan is a primary target, while Curnow will be a second tall (having the two in one team would be an incredible combination). I think Curnow was easily the best forward in this year's draft (yes I rate him more highly than Schache & Weideman).

You're forgetting Rance. Reckon Weitering will be the second best Key Defender.
Rance is currently the best defender in the league. However, by the time Weitering, Curnow, & Hogan are 24 & 26, respectively, Rance could be anything from retired to a solid, but not the best, defender in the comp. (I would back the latter, but by then he will be similar to Brian Lake - a gun, but not of the same level he used to be, and will have to favour shutting down the opposition more than offensive pushes).

If Weitering exceeds expectations (like Kolodjashnij) it could be possible for him to be the second best defender in the comp. by 2017-18.

But I agree with what you have said, as long as Rance is under-30 years of age, he should be basically impossible to overcome as the league's best fullback (i.e. unless Hombsch can steal the title - Port bias hahaha)
Title: Re: Blues Best 22
Post by: Mat0369 on February 27, 2016, 05:13:25 PM
Tuohy, Jamo, Weitering
Simmo, Rowe, Docherty
Curnow, Cripps, Boek
Everitt, Levi, Wright
Daisy, Gorringe/Phillips, Walker
Kreuz, Murphy, Gibbs

Buckley, Graham, Kerridge, White

Lamb, Tutt, Whiley, Armfield and Cuningham probably all next in line

I think guys like Jaksch, Plowman and Sumner are all recovering from injuries. There are still a few open spots including the 2nd tall forward role.