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Welcome everyone to the AXV Official Trade Thread for the 2015/16 off-season!
DRAFT RULESTRADINGThere will be two trade periods in each season.Post Season.
AN AGREED TIME AFTER COMPLETION OF THE SEASON BEFORE THE NATIONAL DRAFT OF THE FOLLOWING SEASON
Window to trade players, draft picks. Closes before the National Draft.
MAXIMUM NUMBER OF LIST CHANGES = 10
Trades may be uneven in this trade window in regards to how many picks and players are swapped.
A team may trade a player and a draft pick swap for a player and a draft pick swap
( e.g Boyd and pick 14 for Swallow and pick 2)
Pre Season.
AN AGREED TIME AFTER THE PRESEASON/ROOKIE DRAFT PRIOR TO THE START OF THE SEASON
Window to trade players only.
MAXIMUM NUMBER OF LIST CHANGES = 5
A team must trade the same number of players in and out i.e 1 for 1 , 2 for 2.... ect. ect... in this trade window. Trades must also be for players on the same list, i.e rookie for rookie
TRADE APPROVALCompetition admin decides whether a trade is passed or blocked. That decision is final as voted in at the end of last season.
Trades must be confirmed by coaches from all clubs participating in the trade in this thread, or by pm to the administrator before it will passed or blocked.
* You may trade a rookie listed player for another teams senior listed player, or visa versa in Trade Window #1. BUT
- The player you trade in MUST go onto the same list that the he was already on (senior or rookie)
LIST MANAGEMENT RULESLIST MANAGEMENT: You have a Senior List (capped at 40 players) and a Rookie List (capped at 6 players).
* In the following seasons, players you have on your rookie list can be promoted permanently to your senior list using a National Draft Pick. They can also be delisted.
* In the following seasons players you draft in the NATIONAL DRAFT can be added to your senior list only. This will mean you have to DELIST players who are on your senior list, to make room for the new players.
*In the following seasons players you draft in the PRESEASON/ROOKIE DRAFT can
only be added to your rookie list if from the AFL rookie draft, but can be added to EITHER list if from a remaining player pool or from the afl preseason draft. This will mean you have to DELIST players who are on your senior and or rookie list, to make room for the new players.
DRAFT RULES2. THE NATIONAL DRAFT: This draft will be 5 rounds of selections from the players taken in the AFL National Draft.* The National draft order will be performed in reverse order of the finishing position of teams after finals. (Teams knocked out in the same final will be separated based on ladder position at the conclusion of the H&A Season.)
* The draft will repeat.
* You will forfeit your draft pick if you have not picked within 24 hrs of the preceding pick or within 2 hrs of being on line following preceding pick. Should this situation occur you may take you pick at any time following from players still available.
**NOTE** Teams may choose to PASS at any time any number of times during the National Draft. ( Most likely reason for this is to prefer to take a player from the left over players from the Initial draft which will be available in the rookie/preseason draft along with AFL drafted players in the AFL rookie/preseason drafts.)
When a team chooses to PASS in the National Draft, they will receive that pick at the same number/position in the preseason/rookie draft.
3. PRESEASON/ROOKIE DRAFT: The preseason/rookie draft will be 5 rounds of selections from the players taken in the AFL Pre Season and Rookie drafts.* The preseason/rookie draft order will be the same as the National draft order, ALWAYS and will repeat.
* You will forfeit your draft pick if you have not picked within 24 hrs of the preceding pick or within 2 hrs of being on line following preceding pick. Should this situation occur you may take you pick at any time following from players still available.
PRIORITY PICKS: Teams finishing with 4 wins or fewer (16 premiership points or fewer) in a single season, will receive an additional draft pick following the first round of the national draft. If this occurs two seasons in a row, a team will achieve an additional draft pick prior to the first round of the national draft. (This rule will be effective starting with the 2016 Season).
OTHER TRADING RESOURCES
AXV TRADE DISCUSSIONS THREAD:http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,104664.0.html (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,104664.0.html)
FULL 2015 PLAYER SCORES SPREADSHEET (FOLLOW LINK TO DOWNLOAD):http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=83685615135261654409 (http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=83685615135261654409)
AXV OFFICIAL DRAFT THREAD:http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,104946.0.html (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,104946.0.html)
AXV DE-LISTINGS & LIST MANAGEMENT THREAD:http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,104944.0.html (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,104944.0.html)
KEY DATES
Saturday November 21 - End of First Trade Period
Sunday November 22 - List lodgement required (delistings and retirements)
Tuesday November 24 - AXV National Draft Begins (Following completion of AFL National Draft and relevant threads updated)
Friday November 27 - AXV Rookie/Pre-Season Draft Begins (Following completion of AFL Rookie/Pre-Season Draft & completion of AXV National Draft)
Second Trade Period will open upon completion of the AXV Rookie/Pre-Season Draft
Second Trade Period will close at a date TBC (before any pre-season competitions begin)
TEAM LISTS - TO BE UPDATED THROUGH TRADING
*Note - Please ignore numbers next to some players names. They were used for an old ranking system which is no longer in use.
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BEARS
SENIOR LIST1. Tom Liberatore
2. Nat Fyfe 6
3. Ben McEvoy 6
4. Jimmy Webster
5. Sam Mitchell 9
6. Adam Tomlinson
7. Lewis Taylor
8. Tom Clurey 1
9. James Aish
10. Sam Mayes
11. Cameron Sutcliffe
12. Alipate Carlile 4
13. Aaron Francis
14. Jon Patton
15. Jimmy Toumpas
16. Jack Grimes
17. Alex Morgan
18. Caleb Daniel
19. Cyril Rioli
20. Shane Savage
21. Brayden Fiorini
22. Mitch Hallahan
23. Brandon White
24. Ben Cunnington
25. Tim Mohr 2
26. Matthew Pavlich 9
27. Jon Ceglar
28. Ben Jacobs
29. Jack Lonie
30. Nathan Wilson
31. Sam Kerridge
32. Matthew Hayball
33. Matthew Dick
34. Ed Langdon
35. Riley Knight
36. Fletcher Roberts
37. Jed Bews 1
38. Abaina Davis
39. Michael Hartley
40. Rupert Wills
ROOKIE LIST1. Darcy MacPherson
2. Joel Hamling
3. Mitchell White
4. Will Fordham
5. Jake Long
6. Jonathon Beech
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STRIKERS
SENIOR LIST1. Kieren Jack 9
2. Kurt Mutimer
3. Sam Jacobs 4
4. Matt Suckling 6
5. Michael Rischitelli
6. Rory Sloane 9
7. Scott D. Thompson 9
8. Andrejs Everitt
9. Andrew Mackie 6
10. Kade Simpson 9
11. Scott Selwood
12. Tom Scully 4
13. Bernie Vince
14. Justin Westhoff 6
15. Michael Walters 9
16. Heath Grundy 6
17. Jarrad Waite
18. Callan Ward 6
19. Matt DeBoer 4
20. Alex Johnson 4
21. Will Hoskin-Elliot 1
22. Curtly Hampton 2
23. Brad Sheppard 1
24. Kyle Langford
25. Marco Paparone
26. Dawson Simpson
27. Blake Acres
28. Viv Michie
29. Jarryd Blair
30. Nathan Hrovat 2
31. Rhys Palmer
32. Dale Thomas 6
33. Jason Tutt 1
34. Ben McGlynn 4
35. Callum Sinclair 1
36. Danyle Pearce
37. Ed Curnow
38. Marcus Bontempelli 3
39. Jason Johannisen
40. Scott Lycett 1
ROOKIE LIST1. Corey Gregson
2. Declan Mountford
3. Tyrone Leonardis
4. Billy Evans
5. Aliir Aliir 1
6. Tom Barrass 1
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DONGS
SENIOR LIST1. Koby Stevens
2. Jack Redpath
3. Jack Redden
4. Reece Conca
5. Lynden Dunn
6. Jacob Weitering
7. Charlie Curnow
8. Josh Dunkley
9. Corey Wagner
10. Joshua Schoenfeld
11. Travis Cloyer
12. Kane Mitchell
13. George Hewett 1
14. Shaun McKernan
15. Tom Bellchambers
16. Jarrod Pickett
17. Will Schofield 4
18. Liam Dawson
19. Matthew Goodyear
20. Jack Silvagni
21. Kieran Collins
22. Daniel Howe
23. Jarrad Grant
24. Blake Hardwick
25. Connor Menadue
26. Jack Hiscox
27. Ryan Bastinac
28. Wylie Buzza
29. Cam Shenton
30. Luke Russell
31. Billy Hartung
32. Brent Macaffer
33. Neville Jetta
34. Steven Morris
35. Tom Sheridan
36. Jed Lamb
37. Darcy Gardiner 1
38. Jack Leslie 1
39. Darcy Byrne-Jones 1
40. Karl Amon 1
ROOKIE LIST1. Kaiden Brand 1
2. Daniel Nielson
3. Oscar McDonald
4. Joshua Prudden 1
5. Alex Woodward
6. Hugh Beasley
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TIGERS
SENIOR LIST1. Brett Deledio 9
2. Tom Hawkins
3. David Zaharakis
4. Shaun Higgins 6
5. Shaun Grigg 4
6. Dustin Martin 6
7. Andrew Swallow
8. Billy Longer
9. Clancee Pearce 6
10. Daniel Rich
11. Sean Dempster 6
12. Ryan Griffen 9
13. Courtenay Dempsey 6
14. Nathan Jones
15. Luke Hodge
16. Travis Cloke
17. David Mundy
18. Stefan Martin 2
19. Grant Birchall
20. Eric Hipwood
21. Dane Swan
22. Ryan Schoenmakers
23. Josh Gibson 6
24. Aaron Young
25. Jeremy Laidler
26. Luke Partington
27. Brendon Goddard
28. Mitch Brown (ESS)
29. Nathan Krakouer
30. Jackson Merrett
31. Daniel Talia 6
32. Ted Richards
33. Jack Frost
34. Shannon Hurn 6
35. Jarrod Harbrow 6
36. Tom Lee 2
37. Paul Puopolo
38. Tom Hickey
39. Mitch Wallis
40. Shane Yarran
ROOKIE LIST1. Jason Holmes
2. Lewis Pierce
3. Aidyn Johnson
4. Tom Keough
5. Daniel Lloyd
6. Tom Wallis
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LAMBS
SENIOR LIST1. Marc Murphy 6
2. Scott Thompson 6
3. Hamish Hartlett 6
4. Steve Johnson 9
5. Will Minson
6. Bachar Houli 6
7. Drew Petrie 9
8. Kurt Tippett 6
9. Jarrad McVeigh 9
10. Pearce Hanley 9
11. Jordan Roughead
12. Nathan Van Berlo 2
13. Taylor Hunt 2
14. Alex Rance 9
15. Matt Priddis 6
16. Caleb Marchbank
17. Leigh Montagna
18. Nick Smith 4
19. Clay Cameron 1
20. Troy Chaplin
21. Charlie Dixon 4
22. Adam Cooney 6
23. Cameron O'Shea
24. George Horlin-Smith 2
25. Aaron Mullett
26. Andrew Moore 2
27. Thomas J. Lynch
28. Jimmy Bartel
29. Daniel Rioli
30. Brent Stanton
31. Luke Lowden
32. Craig Moller 1
33. Marc Pittonet
34. Jay Schulz
35. James Sicily 1
36. Luke Dunstan 2
37. Tomas Bugg
38. Robert Murphy
39. Marcus Adams
40. Mitch King
ROOKIE LIST1. Ivan Soldo
2. Max Duffy 1
3. Kyle Hartigan 1
4. Murray Newman 1
5. Roarke Smith
6. Charlie Cameron 1
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FOLDERS
SENIOR LIST1. Ricky Henderson
2. Jake Carlisle
3. Sam Gibson
4. Nathan Vardy
5. Michael Johnson 9
6. Patrick McCartin
7. Jonathan O'Rourke
8. Claye Beams
9. Bryce Gibbs
10. Jake Neade
11. Mitch Clark 4
12. Christian Salem
13. Danny Stanley
14. Craig Bird 4
15. Sam Gilbert 6
16. Josh Jenkins
17. Matthew Lobbe 4
18. Jack Hannath 1
19. Joshua Walker 1
20. Daniel Merrett 4
21. Jamie MacMillan 2
22. Daniel Menzel
23. Josh Hill 4
24. Paul Ahern
25. Blaine Boekhorst
26. Toby McLean
27. Callum Mills
28. Ben McKay
29. Rohan Bewick 4
30. Billy Stretch
31. Lukas Webb
32. Tom Cole
33. Jake Lloyd
34. Harris Andrews
35. Dylan Buckley
36. Patrick Cripps 2
37. Sean Lemmens 1
38. Alex Pearce 1
39. Patrick Ambrose
40. David Astbury
ROOKIE LIST1. Jaden McGrath
2. Sam Skinner
3. Liam Hulett
4. James Harmes 1
5. Farren Ray
6. Archie Smith 1
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ELEPHANTS
SENIOR LIST1. Jarryd Roughead
2. Taylor Walker 6
3. Dylan Roberton
4. Josh J. Kennedy
5. Jordan De Goey
6. Todd Goldstein 9
7. Shane Edwards
8. Travis Boak 6
9. Dylan Shiel 4
10. Liam Shiels 2
11. Aaron Hall 4
12. Stewart Crameri 6
13. James Frawley
14. Kamdyn McIntosh
15. Tom McDonald 4
16. Jack Riewoldt
17. Alex Fasolo 4
18. Jarryn Geary 6
19. Darcy Moore
20. Sam Day 2
21. Hugh Goddard
22. Tim Membrey
23. Ryan Harwood 4
24. Callum Ah Chee
25. Joshua Green 2
26. Ben Stratton 6
27. Dion Prestia
28. Sam Frost 1
29. Dean Gore
30. Harry McKay
31. Seb Tape 1
32. Oleg Markov
33. Rory Thompson 4
34. Kyle Cheney 1
35. Oliver Wines 4
36. Matt White 2
37. Lachie Whitfield 4
38. Nicholas Kommer
39. Eric Mackenzie
40. Majak Daw
ROOKIE LIST1. Tanner Smith 1
2. Matthew Spangher
3. Shaun Hampson
4. Jayden Short
5. Mackenzie Willis
6. Jason Castagna
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ALES
SENIOR LIST1. Luke Shuey 6
2. Matthew Buntine 3
3. Robbie Gray
4. Angus Monfries 9
5. David Armitage
6. Shane Mumford 6
7. Sam Reid (SYD)
8. Toby Greene
9. Trent Mckenzie 6
10. Matthew Broadbent 6
11. Sam Weideman
12. Daniel Wells 6
13. Sam Butler 6
14. Jack Gunston 9
15. Mitchell Hibberd
16. Rory Lobb
17. Jack Steven 6
18. Nick Riewoldt
19. Matthew Jaensch 2
20. Riley Bonner
21. Matthew Boyd
22. Jack Martin
23. Chris Masten 6
24. Heath Hocking 2
25. Liam Sumner 1
26. Jack Newnes
27. James Strauss 1
28. Cale Hooker 6
29. Garrick Ibbotson
30. Jack Crisp 1
31. Harrison Himmelberg
32. Jordan Lewis
33. Phil Davis
34. Jed Adcock
35. Andrew Walker
36. Mark LeCras
37. Jonathan Freeman 1
38. Jesse Hogan 3
39. Sam Grimley 1
40. Brent Harvey
ROOKIE LIST1. Tom Downie
2. Justin Clarke
3. Billy Gowers
4. Dallas Wilsmore 1
5. Connor McKenna
6. Jesse Glass-McCasker
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GAZELLES
SENIOR LIST1. Jobe Watson 9
2. Patrick Dangerfield
3. Ivan Maric 6
4. Michael Hurley 4
5. Mark Baguley 4
6. Ben Keays
7. Reece McKenzie
8. Mitchell Duncan 4
9. Harley Balic
10. Kane Lambert
11. Jack Watts
12. John Butcher
13. Tom Mitchell 4
14. Clem Smith
15. Brandon Ellis 4
16. Harry Taylor
17. Arryn Siposs 2
18. Adam Oxley
19. Sam Fisher 4
20. Brendon Ah Chee 1
21. Tyrone Vickery
22. Adam Saad
23. Josh P Kennedy 9
24. Matthew Shaw 1
25. Jed Anderson 1
26. Easton Wood 1
27. Shane Kersten
28. Aiden Riley 1
29. Ben Newton 1
30. Liam McBean 1
31. Jonathon Griffin
32. Dane Rampe
33. Shaun Edwards
34. Fraser McInnes
35. Brady Grey
36. Ben Brown 1
37. Tom Langdon 1
38. Daniel McStay 1
39. Jarrad Jansen 1
40. Angus Litherland 1
ROOKIE LIST1. Gach Nyuon
2. Jordan Snadden
3. Matthew Taberner 1
4. Cameron Delaney 1
5. Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti
6. Andrew Gallucci
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CROCODILES
SENIOR LIST1. Scott Pendlebury 9
2. Nick Malceski
3. Steele Sidebottom 6
4. Brodie Grundy 2
5. Luke Dahlhaus 6
6. Sharrod Wellingham 4
7. Gary Ablett 9
8. Heath Shaw 9
9. Dayne Beams
10. Josh Thomas
11. Aaron Black 4
12. Joel Selwood
13. Jack Darling 6
14. Chris Mayne
15. Corey Enright 9
16. Harley Bennell
17. Lachie Hansen
18. Michael Barlow
19. Jarrod Witts 1
20. Darcy Tucker
21. Joel Patfull
22. Tayte Pears 2
23. Matt Rosa
24. Brayden Sier
25. Dylan Grimes 2
26. Sam Menegola
27. Lance Franklin
28. Brodie Smith
29. Corey Gault
30. Nick Dal Santo
31. Nathan Broad
32. Nathan Drummond
33. Shaun Burgoyne
34. Will Hams 1
35. Ryan Lester
36. Sam Lloyd 1
37. Jordan Cunico
38. Tom Curren
39. Darren Minchington 1
40. Ceeran Sheehan
ROOKIE LIST1. Mason Cox
2. Joshua Wagner
3. Ethan Hughes
4. Corey Adamson
5. Teia Miles
6. Ryan Davis
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VIPERS
SENIOR LIST1. Luke Parker
2. Matthew Wright 4
3. Chris Yarran
4. Matthew Leuenberger 6
5. Jacob Hopper
6. Allen Christensen 4
7. Christian Petracca
8. Corey Ellis
9. Ryan Burton
10. Gary Rohan
11. Bailey Rice
12. David Myers 4
13. Jeremy Howe 6
14. Ben Reid 9
15. Dom Tyson 1
16. Jake Melksham 4
17. Jake Batchelor
18. Patrick McKenna
19. Billie Smedts 2
20. Jeff Garlett
21. Mark Hutchings 1
22. Nick Haynes 2
23. Brandon Matera 4
24. Stephen Hill 4
25. Kane Lucas 2
26. Nick Suban 2
27. Ciaran Byrne
28. Taylor Garner 2
29. Mitch McGovern
30. Mark Whiley 1
31. Matt Jones 2
32. Jeremy McGovern
33. Ed Vickers-Willis
34. Mark Blicavs
35. Nicholas Robertson 1
36. Joshua Kelly 3
37. Cameron McCarthy 2
38. Zak Jones 2
39. Michael Apeness 2
40. Thomas Jonas
ROOKIE LIST1. Jack Sinclair
2. Tom Papley
3. Cian Hanley
4. Eli Templeton
5. Nic Newman
6. Jordan Dawson
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CRABS
SENIOR LIST1. Trent Cotchin
2. Adam Treloar
3. Taylor Adams
4. Nic Naitanui
5. Jack Ziebell
6. Michael Hibberd
7. Dayne Zorko
8. Mitch Robinson
9. Brad Crouch
10. Jaeger O'Meara
11. Steven Motlop
12. Kade Kolodjashnij
13. Elliot Yeo
14. David Swallow
15. Sam Docherty
16. Jake Stringer
17. Zachary Merrett
18. Hayden Ballantyne
19. Shaun Atley
20. Sebastian Ross
21. Brendon Whitecross
22. Matt Crouch
23. Timothy Broomhead
24. Nakia Cockatoo
25. Ben Lennon
26. Jesse Lonergan
27. Trent Dumont
28. Joe Daniher
29. Jarman Impey
30. Jacob Townsend
31. Daniel McKenzie
32. Xavier Ellis
33. Jon Giles
34. Kristian Jaksch
35. Jarrod Garlett
36. Sam Naismith
37. Toby Nankervis
38. Harrison Wigg
39. Darcy Parish
40. Rhys Mathieson
ROOKIE LIST1. Adam Kennedy
2. Xavier Richards
3. Josh McGuiness
4. Adam Marcon
5. Alex Sexton
6. Mabior Chol
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HEAD HUNTERS
SENIOR LIST1. Paul Seedsman
2. Tom Nicholls
3. Tom Rockliff 9
4. Dyson Heppell 6
5. Clayton Oliver
6. Lachie Hunter
7. Lee Spurr 4
8. Lachlan Weller
9. Jade Gresham
10. Zac Clarke 4
11. Ryan Clarke
12. Jamie Elliot 4
13. Mason Redman
14. Luke McDonald
15. Maverick Weller
16. Mitch Grigg
17. Alex Neal-Bullen
18. David MacKay 2
19. Rhys Stanley 1
20. Harry Cunningham 1
21. Robbie Tarrant 2
22. Trent West 2
23. Rory Atkins
24. Ben Sinclair 2
25. Michael Close 2
26. Lachlan Plowman 3
27. Marley williams 4
28. Andrew Phillips 1
29. Alec Waterman
30. Touk Miller
31. Martin Gleeson
32. Cameron Ellis-Yolmen
33. Brant Colledge 1
34. Hayden Crozier
35. Tom Bell 2
36. Darcy Lang 2
37. Jack Billings 3
38. Nathan Freeman 2
39. Shane Biggs
40. James Stewart
ROOKIE LIST1. Will Snelling
2. Tom Phillips
3. Daniel Gorringe
4. Keenan Ramsey
5. Ben Crocker
6. Daniel Robinson 1
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ESKIMOS
SENIOR LIST1. Heritier Lumumba 4
2. Sam Wright
3. Patrick Ryder 6
4. Luke Breust 6
5. Lewis Jetta 2
6. Tendai Mzungu 4
7. Jackson Trengove
8. Sam Rowe 2
9. Taylor Duryea 2
10. Sam Durdin
11. Daniel Hannebery 6
12. Aaron Sandilands
13. Sam Gray
14. Brad Ebert 6
15. Colin Garland
16. Cameron Pederson 1
17. Ben Howlett 4
18. Todd Elton 1
19. Liam Picken 4
20. Dougal Howard
21. James Rose
22. Wayne Milera
23. Levi Greenwood 4
24. Jack Hombsch 2
25. Lachie Henderson 6
26. Daniel Currie 1
27. Bailey Dale
28. Tom Doedee
29. Michael Firrito 4
30. Andrew Gaff 4
31. Jared Polec 1
32. Alex Silvagni 2
33. Isaac Smith 4
34. Lindsay Thomas
35. Jesse White
36. Eddie Betts
37. James Kelly
38. Orazio Fantasia 1
39. Chris Dawes
40. Paul Stewart
ROOKIE LIST1. Anthony Morabito 1
2. Keegan Brooksby
3. Jamie Bennell
4. Billy Frampton
5. Henry Schade 2
6. Simon White
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DOLPHINS
SENIOR LIST1. Jordan Murdoch 2
2. Josh Caddy
3. Stephen Coniglio 4
4. Dean Kent
5. Matthew Kreuzer 6
6. Brad Hill
7. Tom Campbell 2
8. Brad McKenzie
9. Nick Vlastuin 4
10. Mitch Honeychurch
11. Isaac Heeney
12. Tory Dickson 4
13. Cameron Guthrie 2
14. Tom Derickx 1
15. Peter Wright
16. Dillon Viojo-Rainbow
17. Jayden Laverde
18. Jack Steele
19. Connor Blakely
20. Brayden Maynard
21. Nick Graham
22. Sam Colquhoun 1
23. Brandon Jack
24. Tom Lamb
25. Jayden Foster
26. Nathan Wright 2
27. Zachary Tuohy 2
28. Dean Towers
29. Travis Varcoe 2
30. Jamie Cripps
31. Thomas Boyd 3
32. Jackson Nelson
33. Jonathon Marsh 1
34. Jake Barrett 1
35. Tom Cutler 1
36. Jake Kolodjashnij 1
37. Damien Cavka
38. Zachary Williams 2
39. Will Langford 1
40. Josh Schache
ROOKIE LIST1. Mason Wood
2. Kayne Turner
3. Benjamin Griffiths
4. Nick O'Kearney
5. Cameron Wood 1
6. Reilly O'Brien
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LLAMAS
SENIOR LIST1. Jack Viney
2. Jack Trengove 4
3. Chad Wingard 6
4. Troy Menzel
5. Luke Brown 2
6. Jasper Pittard 2
7. Tom T Lynch 6
8. Matthew Kennedy
9. Jeremy Cameron 4
10. Max Gawn 2
11. Zac Smith 2
12. Devon Smith 2
13. Angus Brayshaw
14. Jake Spencer 2
15. Clay Smith 2
16. Jackson Macrae 2
17. Andy Otten 4
18. Anthony Miles
19. Liam Duggan
20. Richard Douglas
21. Jackson Thurlow 2
22. Ben Kennedy 1
23. Lachie Neale 2
24. James Gwilt
25. Jake Lever
26. Declan Hamilton
27. Steven May 2
28. Kieran Lovell
29. David Cunningham
30. Jarryd Lyons 2
31. Jackson Ramsay 1
32. Bailey Williams
33. Brodie Murdoch 1
34. Michael Talia 2
35. Rory Laird 4
36. Matthew Scharenberg 2
37. Dominic Sheed 2
38. Levi Casboult
39. Jay Kennedy-Harris 1
40. Aaron Vandenberg
ROOKIE LIST1. Matthew Allen
2. Tim O'Brien 1
3. Jake Kelly
4. Jack Fitzpatrick 4
5. Matthew Hammelmann
6. Jeremy Finlayson
DRAFT ORDER - TO BE UPDATED THROUGH TRADING
AXV 2016 NATIONAL DRAFTTraded Picks in RedROUND 1:1. Manila Folders
2. Vietnam Vipers
3. Taiwan Dolphins
4. Bangkok Crabs
5. PNG Head Hunters
6. Turkish Gazelles
7. Tibetan Llamas
8. Hong Kong Dongs
9. Hong Kong Dongs
10. Bangladesh Bears
11. Kathmandu Eskimos
12. Australian Ales
13. PNG Head Hunters
14. UAE Tigers
15. Laos Elephants
16. Australian Ales
ROUND 2:17. Bangkok Crabs
18. Vietnam Vipers
19. Tibetan Llamas
20. Hong Kong Dongs
21. PNG Head Hunters
22. Turkish Gazelles
23. KL Crocodiles
24. UAE Tigers
25. Taiwan Dolphins
26. Australian Ales
27. Bangladesh Bears
28. Mongolian Lambs
29. Manila Folders
30. UAE Tigers
31. Laos Elephants
32. Australian Ales
ROUND 3:33. Manila Folders
34. Vietnam Vipers
35. Tibetan Llamas
36. Hong Kong Dongs
37. PNG Head Hunters
38. Turkish Gazelles
39. Tibetan Llamas
40. KL Crocodiles
41. Hong Kong Dongs
42. Hong Kong Dongs
43. KL Crocodiles
44. UAE Tigers
45. KL Crocodiles
46. UAE Tigers
47. Laos Elephants
48. Mongolian Lambs
ROUND 4:49. Manila Folders
50. Vietnam Vipers
51. Taiwan Dolphins
52. Hong Kong Dongs
53. Mongolian Lambs
54. Turkish Gazelles
55. Tibetan Llamas
56. Hong Kong Dongs
57. Bangladesh Bears
58. Bangladesh Bears
59. Kathmandu Eskimos
60. UAE Tigers
61. Hong Kong Dongs
62. UAE Tigers
63. Laos Elephants
64. PNG Head Hunters
ROUND 5:65. Manila Folders
66. Vietnam Vipers
67. Taiwan Dolphins
68. Manila Folders
69. PNG Head Hunters
70. Turkish Gazelles
71. Tibetan Llamas
72. Hong Kong Dongs
73. Kathmandu Eskimos
74. Bangladesh Bears
75. Kathmandu Eskimos
76. Kathmandu Eskimos
77. PNG Head Hunters
78. Hong Kong Dongs
79. Laos Elephants
80. PNG Head Hunters
AXV 2016 ROOKIE DRAFTROUND 1:1. Sri Lanka Strikers
2. Vietnam Vipers
3. Taiwan Dolphins
4. Hong Kong Dongs
5. PNG Head Hunters
6. Turkish Gazelles
7. Tibetan Llamas
8. Bangkok Crabs
9. KL Crocodiles
10. Bangladesh Bears
11. Kathmandu Eskimos
12. Australian Ales
13. Manila Folders
14. UAE Tigers
15. Laos Elephants
16. Mongolian Lambs
ROUND 2:17. Manila Folders
18. Vietnam Vipers
19. Taiwan Dolphins
20. Hong Kong Dongs
21. PNG Head Hunters
22. Turkish Gazelles
23. Tibetan Llamas
24. Bangkok Crabs
25. Hong Kong Dongs
26. Tibetan Llamas
27. Kathmandu Eskimos
28. Australian Ales
29. Sri Lanka Strikers
30. PNG Head Hunters
31. Laos Elephants
32. Mongolian Lambs
ROUND 3:33. Manila Folders
34. Vietnam Vipers
35. Taiwan Dolphins
36. Hong Kong Dongs
37. PNG Head Hunters
38. Turkish Gazelles
39. Tibetan Llamas
40. Bangkok Crabs
41. PNG Head Hunters
42. Bangladesh Bears
43. Kathmandu Eskimos
44. Australian Ales
45. Sri Lanka Strikers
46. UAE Tigers
47. Laos Elephants
48. Mongolian Lambs
ROUND 4:49. Manila Folders
50. Vietnam Vipers
51. Taiwan Dolphins
52. Hong Kong Dongs
53. Hong Kong Dongs
54. Turkish Gazelles
55. Tibetan Llamas
56. Bangkok Crabs
57. KL Crocodiles
58. Bangladesh Bears
59. Kathmandu Eskimos
60. Australian Ales
61. Sri Lanka Strikers
62. UAE Tigers
63. Laos Elephants
64. Mongolian Lambs
ROUND 5:65. Manila Folders
66. Vietnam Vipers
67. Taiwan Dolphins
68. UAE Tigers
69. PNG Head Hunters
70. Turkish Gazelles
71. Tibetan Llamas
72. Bangkok Crabs
73. KL Crocodiles
74. Bangladesh Bears
75. Kathmandu Eskimos
76. Australian Ales
77. Sri Lanka Strikers
78. UAE Tigers
79. Laos Elephants
80. Mongolian Lambs
TRADES - TRADE WINDOW #1
*TRADES ARE TO BE POSTED IN THE FOLLOWING FORMAT:*Folders give: abc + abc
Bears give: abc + abc
TRADE #1: CONFIRMEDBangkok give: L. McDonald
PNG give: B. Lennon
Reasoning: Fairly straightforward trade I would think here. Young forward for young defender, both of whom are good prospects for the future.
TRADE #2: CONFIRMEDBangkok give: T. Membrey
Laos give: D. McKenzie
Reasoning: Couple of depth players being traded here, similar in worth.
TRADE #3: CONFIRMEDLaos give: Damien Cavka
Taiwan give: Nick Holman
Reasoning: Two young players who haven't done too much in the AFL yet, but have a bit of potential and have fairly even value.
TRADE #4: CONFIRMEDLaos give: Brodie Smith + Michael Barlow
Crocs give: Dylan Roberton + James Frawley + Kamdyn McIntosh
Reasoning: Now this is a contentious one, so let's break down the trade.
Smith (20 games, 93 avg, 23 yrs old) + Barlow (22 games, 121 avg, 28 almost 29 years old)
for
Roberton (20 games, 108 avg, 24 yrs old) + Frawley (14 games, 70 avg, nearly 28 years old) + McIntosh (22 games, 86 avg, 21 years old)
From that I see Roberton as being superior to Smith, and Smith also has the possibility of losing his DEF status in the next season or two in the way he has been used. McIntosh is a young defender (which are hard to find who score decently in this format) who did play every game this year and scored decently. Frawley will also be useful depth. The way I see it:
Roberton>Smith
Barlow > Frawley + McIntosh
While I don't see this trade as being perfectly even, it is not too uneven so that it should not pass in my view. I realise that may not be the most popular view, but it is the view I have on the trade.
TRADE #5: CONFIRMEDBangkok give: A. Miles
Tibet give: E. Yeo
Reasoning: Two young talents here. Miles averages over 10 more than Yeo, so that helps to make up the difference in position between the two players.
TRADE #6: CONFIRMEDKathmandu give: Peter Wright + Dillon Viojo-Rainbow
Taiwan give: Sam Wright
Reasoning: Sam Wright is one of the better defenders in this format, averaging 91 and cementing his place in North's side. Wright and Viojo-Rainbow both appear to have plenty of potential based on their draft positions, despite the fact that neither have played a game yet, but should do so at their struggling AFL clubs.
TRADE #7: CONFIRMEDKL Crocs Give: N57 + N73
Kathmandu Give: N43
Reasoning: Fairly easy pick swap here to better suit the needs of a couple of teams.
TRADE #8: CONFIRMEDBangladesh give: M. Boyd + N. Riewoldt + A. Walker + M. LeCras + G. Ibbotson + B. Harvey + N26
Australia give: A. Tomlinson + S. Mayes + J. Aish + L. Taylor + J. Lonie + M. Hallahan + N76
Reasoning: Let's go through the age and averages of players here.
Garrick Ibbtson (28 next year) 93 ave
Andrew Walker (30 next year) 82 ave
Brent Harvey (one year left?) 106 ave
Nick Riewoldt (one year left?) 129 ave
Matty Boyd (one year left?) 129ave
Mark Lecras (30 next year) 117 ave
N26
for
Taylor (20 yrs old) 97 ave this year
Tomlinson (22 yrs old) 90 unsubbed ave this year, 97 ave last year
Mayes (21 yrs old) 97.7 ave in very first year, 106 unsubbed
Aish (20 yrs old) 96.5 ave in first year, 100 unsubbed
Lonie (19 yrs old) 85 unsubbed ave this year
Hallahan (23 yrs old) 102 ave this year
N76
Totalling those averages its
Australia Receive: 656
Bangladesh Receive: 587
No doubt that Australia are receiving some high scoring guns, but they will not be around for too long, and Bangladesh are receiving some high quality youth, that will stand them in good stead for years to come. Based on that logic, I'd say that Bangaldesh are up slightly in the trade, and the pick trade does help to balance it out slightly. Based on all of that, we don't see this trade as being too unfair that it should not pass, and is therefore approved.
TRADE #9: CONFIRMEDTaiwan gives: Nat 19 + Nat 35
Tibet gives: Nat 23 + Brad Hill
Reasoning: Hill has a decent average, at a tick under 100 but is certainly not premium for a midfielder. A late second round pick with a pick swap as well seems about right for his value.
TRADE #10: CONFIRMEDStrikers give: James Stewart + NAT 13 + NAT 77
PNG give: Ed Curnow + Jarryd Blair + Viv Michie
Reasoning: Stewart and Michie were similar this year in terms of scoring and games played, and both provide some future potential. Curnow (101 avg) and Blair (92 avg) are both solid players and close enough to the worth of the included picks.
TRADE #11: CONFIRMEDLaos give: Tom Hickey + Billy Longer
UAE give: Jack Riewoldt + Majak Daw
Reasoning: Hickey or Longer will be playing pretty much every week, and should both improve a bit, young rucks who play that decently are certainly hard to find, showing that they do have quite a bit of potential. Riewoldt is a good forward, without being in the top class of premiums. Daw meanwhile has really had a poor year, and given his current circumstances it is unclear what his position will be next year, so he is not worth quite as much, and this trade is close enough to pass.
TRADE #12: CONFIRMEDMongolia give: NAT 16 + NAT 32
Australia give: Jordan Roughead + NAT 28
Reasoning: Roughead isn't the highest scoring player, but does have some versatility with his position. Pick swap evens it out a bit.
TRADE #13: CONFIRMEDMongolia give: Jon Giles
UAE give: Wilbur Minson
Reasoning: A couple of fringe rucks being traded here, nice and easy to pass.
TRADE #14: CONFIRMEDAustralia give: NAT 44 + NAT 60
UAE give: Tom Downie
Reasoning: Young ruckmen are hard to come by, and Downie has shown he has potential, but is still something of an unknown. These picks aren't worth a great deal, but still might be able to pick up a couple of decent players.
TRADE #15: CONFIRMEDUAE Tigers give: Shaun McKernan, Tom Bellchambers & Jon Giles.
HK Dongs give: Ryan Schoenmakers & Aaron Young
Reasoning: None of these players are really high scorers, though Schoenmakers and Young appear to have more upside, with Schoenmakers putting in a good finals series, and Young potentially moving clubs. Getting the Essendon ruck division is a bonus, but it looks as though they will be picking up more rucks in the off-season, meaning neither of these 3 may be the first choice ruckman come 2016. Fair enough to pass I think.
TRADE #16: CONFIRMEDCrocs give: Dawson Simpson
Strikers give: Nat#45
Reasoning: Simpson played a few games and seemed to be on the outer this year, but could still get a few regular games at Geelong, and rucks are hard to come by.
TRADE #17: CONFIRMEDTigers give: M Cox
Crocs give: J Frost
Reasoning: Two real depth players being traded here, nice and easy one.
TRADE #18: CONFIRMEDCrabs give: Nat #40
Crocs give: Jacob Townsend
Reasoning: He has been out of favour at the Giants, but getting a likely trade will give Townsend another opportunity, having similar potential to a draft pick around the 40 mark arriving at a new club.
TRADE #19: CONFIRMEDKL Crocs Give: KStevens + N9 + R25
Hong Kong Give: Buddy Franklin
Reasoning: Stevens is a decent scoring midfielder, with an average over 110, and is packaged with a top 10 pick and a decent rookie pick. Franklin is an elite player at his best, and while it is questionable as to whether he will get back to that, it seems to be a fair price to pay for a player who has the ability to be the highest scoring player in this form of the game.
TRADE #20: CONFIRMEDBangkok Crabs give: Jake Carlisle + Daniel Menzel + Nathan Vardy
Manilla Folders give: Dayne Zorko + Nat 17
Reasoning: BB summed it up pretty well. Fair bit of risk involved here for him and think Crabs win this slightly, but not enough to block. By giving up Zorko BB is able to build the depth of his squad with three boys that have the ability to score very well in this scoring system.
TRADE #21: CONFIRMEDBangladesh give: Joel Selwood + Lachie Hansen + N42
Kuala Lumpur give: Tom Liberatore + Shane Savage + Jimmy Webster
Reasoning: Liberatore is a good young talent, but coming off a knee reco, there have to be questions about whether he can get to the top level of player that Selwood has shown he is. Savage has shown a bit as a defender this year, and has had a higher output than Savage, who has had his share of injury troubles. The swap of Webster and the pick evens things out a bit more.
TRADE #22: CONFIRMEDBangkok trade: Nat 56
Hong Kong trade: Jon Giles
Reasoning: Pretty easy one here, Giles has found himself on the outer, and that pick is about right for him.
TRADE #23: CONFIRMEDKL Crocs Give: N25
Bangkok Give: Curren + Lester
Reasoning: 2 decent depth players for a second round pick, fair enough trade.
TRADE #24: CONFIRMEDBangkok Crabs give: Tom Hawkins + Nat 24
UAE Tigers give: Jack Ziebell
Reasoning: Hawkins had a down year, but is still in his prime and is easily seen as a 100+ forward (which are hard to come by atm). JZ averaged more, but he looks like he'll be a mid only next year. The 2nd round pick makes up the difference in scoring and age.
TRADE #25: CONFIRMEDKL Crocs Give: R41
PNG Give: R53 + Jacob Ballard
Reasoning: Nice easy pick and player swap here.
TRADE #26: CONFIRMEDBangkok give: NAT 25 + B. McKenzie
Taiwan give: NAT 23
Reasoning: Nice and easy. Depth used for a pick upgrade.
TRADE #27: CONFIRMEDHong Kong Dongs Trade: Nat 4 + Ballantyne
Bangkok Crabs Trade: Nat 8 + Nat 23 + Nat 72
Reasoning: A slight win to Bangkok here but not blockable. Nat 23 is just > Ballantyne, balancing out the upgrade from N8 to N4.
TRADE #28: CONFIRMEDHong Kong Dongs trade: Paul Puopolo + R68
UAE Tigers trade: Ryan Bastinac + N78
Reasoning: Pretty straight forward. Puopolo being a fwd attracts a little more value than Basti even though similar scorers. R68 to N78 balances it out
TRADE #29: CONFIRMEDPNG Head Hunters give: Jeremy Laidler
UAE Tigers give: Rookie Pick #30.
Reasoning: Laidler is not a high scoring player, but at least bring something. Rookie 30 isn't a great pick, but has the potential to pick up a decent player.
TRADE #30: CONFIRMEDPNG Head Hunters trade: N53
Mongolia Lambs trade: N64 + N80
Reasoning: Fairly easy pick swap here.
TRADE #31: CONFIRMEDHong Kong Dongs Trade: N23
KL Crocs Trade: N41, N42 + R53
Reasoning: Another easy pick swap to better suit the needs of a few teams.
TRADE #32: CONFIRMEDStrikers give: Nat #29
Folders give: Jarrad Waite
Reasoning: Pretty simple one. A second rounder for a 100+ older forward. And a trade that helps both teams
TRADE #33: CONFIRMEDStrikers give: Danny Stanley+ N#68+ R#13
Folders give: R#1
Reasoning: Stanley has been delisted but GC have committed to picking him up. There are others in the rookie draft pool who have greater value than him (including rookies expected to be drafted), so additional picks are required.
TRADE #34: CONFIRMED -
Note: Part of Trade #1 in Second Trade PeriodBangladesh give: Rookie 26
Tibet give: N/A
Reasoning: Carlile is not a big scorer. Fitzpatrick has shown a bit of potential, but has a slightly questionable future moving to a new club. Maybe not exactly even, but close enough to pass with a few fringe players.
TRADE #35: CONFIRMEDBangladesh gives: Aaron Sandilands, Jesse White, NAT 76
Kathmandu gives: Riley Knight, NAT 27, NAT 57
Reasoning: Sandilands is still one of the best ruckmen in the game, but he can't have too long left. White was a decent scoring forward, but is still a depth player. Knight showed some real promise in the back half of the season, and the accompanying pick swap evens things out nicely.
TRADE #36: CONFIRMEDStrikers give: Reece Conca+ Cam Shenton+ Jed Lamb+ N#61
Dongs give: Michael Rischitelli+ Danyle Pearce+ N#68
Reasoning: This one was a bit closer, but just passes. Rischitelli and Pearce both had good years, but are both 30 next year and entering the later stages of their careers. Conca has good value being a defender who comfortably averaged 100+ when fit, after having an injury interrupted 2015. Shenton has some potential, as does Lamb, and there is the pick swap too which evens things out a little. Not a perfectly even trade in my opinion, but not too bad to be blocked.
REMAINING LIST MOVEMENTS:Vietnam Vipers (10 IN) - (10 OUT)
Taiwan Dolphins (5 IN) - (8 OUT)
Tibetan Llamas (9 IN) - (8 OUT)
Manila Folders (6 IN) - (8 OUT)
PNG Head Hunters (8 IN) - (4 OUT)
Turkey Gazelles (10 IN) - (10 OUT)
Australian Ales (3 IN) - (3 OUT)
Laos Elephants (3 IN) - (4 OUT)
Kathmandu Eskimos (7 IN) - (7 OUT)
Mongolian Lambs (8 IN) - (9 OUT)
Bangkok Crabs (0 IN) - (1 OUT)
UAE Tigers (1 IN) - (0 OUT)
Hong Kong Dongs (2 IN) - (2 OUT)
Sri Lanka Strikers (3 IN) - (5 OUT)
KL Crocodiles (1 IN) - (0 OUT)
Bangladesh Bears (0 IN) - (0 OUT)
TRADES - TRADE WINDOW #2
*TRADES ARE TO BE POSTED IN THE FOLLOWING FORMAT:*Folders give: abc + abc
Bears give: abc + abc
*TRADES FOR THIS PERIOD CAN ONLY BE 1 FOR 1 AND FOR PLAYERS ON THE SAME LIST*TRADE #1: CONFIRMEDBangladesh give: Darcy MacPherson
Tibet give: Jack Fitzpatrick
Reasoning: See Trade #34 in First Trade Period.
REMAINING LIST MOVEMENTS:Vietnam Vipers (5 IN) - (5 OUT)
Taiwan Dolphins (5 IN) - (5 OUT)
Tibetan Llamas (4 IN) - (4 OUT)
Manila Folders (5 IN) - (5 OUT)
PNG Head Hunters (5 IN) - (5 OUT)
Turkey Gazelles (10 IN) - (10 OUT)
Australian Ales (5 IN) - (5 OUT)
Laos Elephants (5 IN) - (5 OUT)
Kathmandu Eskimos (5 IN) - (5 OUT)
Mongolian Lambs (5 IN) - (5 OUT)
Bangkok Crabs (5 IN) - (5 OUT)
UAE Tigers (5 IN) - (5 OUT)
Hong Kong Dongs (5 IN) - (5 OUT)
Sri Lanka Strikers (5 IN) - (5 OUT)
KL Crocodiles (5 IN) - (5 OUT)
Bangladesh Bears (4 IN) - (4 OUT)
RESERVED
RESERVED
I don't have time to finish setting up this thread now, I will get it done in a couple of hours. But I will open it up so teams can start posting trades if they wish. :)
Nice simple one to start with...
Bangkok give: A. Miles
Tibet give: E. Yeo
Tbag to confirm
Bangkok give: L. McDonald
PNG give: B. Lennon
Rusty to confirm
Bangkok give: T. Membrey
Laos give: D. McKenzie
Nige to confirm
If reasoning is required then let me know and I will add it to each trade. Pretty sure we didnt require it last year.
Quote from: Rids on September 20, 2015, 07:42:44 PM
Bangkok give: L. McDonald
PNG give: B. Lennon
Rusty to confirm
Confirmed. We have a number of forwards on our list and not many defenders (only had 2 defenders on our list playing in Rd.23 this year).
Quote from: Rids on September 20, 2015, 07:44:42 PM
Bangkok give: T. Membrey
Laos give: D. McKenzie
Nige to confirm
Confirmed.
Taking a punt on Membrey coming good as a depth forward for me, happy to cough up McKenzie for him.
Laos give: Brodie Smith + Michael Barlow
Crocs give: Dylan Roberton, Kamdyn McIntosh + Sam Lloyd
I see Roberton as an upgrade on Smith and I believe Smith may eventually be mid only whereas Roberton a career defender. Barlow to Kamdyn is a downgrade, but I have enough starting quality that Barlow is expendable. Sam Lloyd is a forward who knows where the goals are and is suited to this comp's scoring system and I believe makes up the difference between Kamdyn and Barlow.
Rico to confirm.
Quote from: Nige on September 20, 2015, 10:15:21 PM
Laos give: Brodie Smith + Michael Barlow
Crocs give: Dylan Roberton, Kamdyn McIntosh + Sam Lloyd
I see Roberton as an upgrade on Smith and I believe Smith may eventually be mid only whereas Roberton a career defender. Barlow to Kamdyn is a downgrade, but I have enough starting quality that Barlow is expendable. Sam Lloyd is a forward who knows where the goals are and is suited to this comp's scoring system and I believe makes up the difference between Kamdyn and Barlow.
Rico to confirm.
Confirmed.
ok Nige and I don't think we should have to do this, but we've agreed to upgrade our deal a little. Nige has asked to improve Lloyd to Frawley
Laos give: Brodie Smith + Michael Barlow
Crocs give: Dylan Roberton + James Frawley + Kamdyn McIntosh
Nige to confirm
Quote from: Ricochet on September 21, 2015, 12:31:43 AM
ok Nige and I don't think we should have to do this, but we've agreed to upgrade our deal a little. Nige has asked to improve Lloyd to Frawley
Laos give: Brodie Smith + Michael Barlow
Crocs give: Dylan Roberton + James Frawley + Kamdyn McIntosh
Nige to confirm
Confirmed. Basically what Rico said. Frawley's an upgrade on Lloyd and helps boost my defensive depth, he's a better option than guys like Stratton etc because he occasionally plays forward and is probably a small chance of DPP.
Disregard the original deal.
Small time trade.
Laos give: Damien Cavka
Taiwan give: Nick Holman
Cavka's not really in my future plans and should be a good player, whereas I think Holman's got a good future ahead of him down back for the Blues under Bolton.
Memph to confirm.
Quote from: Nige on September 21, 2015, 12:32:02 PM
Small time trade.
Laos give: Damien Cavka
Taiwan give: Nick Holman
Cavka's not really in my future plans and should be a good player, whereas I think Holman's got a good future ahead of him down back for the Blues under Bolton.
Memph to confirm.
Confirm.
I need more midfield depth and have plenty of defenders so was happy to do this one. I think both have similar levels of talent - unfortunately Cavka had his year ruined by injury but, before that he was showing good signs.
Quote from: Rusty00 on September 20, 2015, 09:26:07 PM
Quote from: Rids on September 20, 2015, 07:42:44 PM
Bangkok give: L. McDonald
PNG give: B. Lennon
Rusty to confirm
Confirmed. We have a number of forwards on our list and not many defenders (only had 2 defenders on our list playing in Rd.23 this year).
CONFIRMEDReasoning: Fairly straightforward trade I would think here. Young forward for young defender, both of whom are good prospects for the future.
Quote from: Nige on September 20, 2015, 10:10:55 PM
Quote from: Rids on September 20, 2015, 07:44:42 PM
Bangkok give: T. Membrey
Laos give: D. McKenzie
Nige to confirm
Confirmed.
Taking a punt on Membrey coming good as a depth forward for me, happy to cough up McKenzie for him.
CONFIRMEDReasoning: Couple of depth players being traded here, similar in worth.
Quote from: Memphistopheles on September 21, 2015, 02:36:03 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 21, 2015, 12:32:02 PM
Small time trade.
Laos give: Damien Cavka
Taiwan give: Nick Holman
Cavka's not really in my future plans and should be a good player, whereas I think Holman's got a good future ahead of him down back for the Blues under Bolton.
Memph to confirm.
CONFIRMEDReasoning: Again, two young players who haven't done too much in the AFL yet, but have a bit of potential and have fairly even value.
Quote from: Nige on September 21, 2015, 10:13:11 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 21, 2015, 12:31:43 AM
ok Nige and I don't think we should have to do this, but we've agreed to upgrade our deal a little. Nige has asked to improve Lloyd to Frawley
Laos give: Brodie Smith + Michael Barlow
Crocs give: Dylan Roberton + James Frawley + Kamdyn McIntosh
Nige to confirm
Confirmed. Basically what Rico said. Frawley's an upgrade on Lloyd and helps boost my defensive depth, he's a better option than guys like Stratton etc because he occasionally plays forward and is probably a small chance of DPP.
Disregard the original deal.
CONFIRMEDReasoning: Now this is a contentious one, so let's break down the trade.
Smith (20 games, 93 avg, 23 yrs old) + Barlow (22 games, 121 avg, 28 almost 29 years old)
for
Roberton (20 games, 108 avg, 24 yrs old) + Frawley (14 games, 70 avg, nearly 28 years old) + McIntosh (22 games, 86 avg, 21 years old)
From that I see Roberton as being superior to Smith, and Smith also has the possibility of losing his DEF status in the next season or two in the way he has been used. McIntosh is a young defender (which are hard to find who score decently in this format) who did play every game this year and scored decently. Frawley will also be useful depth. The way I see it:
Roberton>Smith
Barlow > Frawley + McIntosh
While I don't see this trade as being perfectly even, it is not too uneven so that it should not pass in my view. I realise that may not be the most popular view, but it is the view I have on the trade.
Barlow turns 28 in December. He is currently 27.
Quote from: Rids on September 21, 2015, 06:10:05 PM
Barlow turns 28 in December. He is currently 27.
My mistake, that's correct.
Still, in my view, that doesn't sway this trade enough to have it blocked.
What a joke!
Quote from: Rids on September 20, 2015, 07:38:20 PM
Nice simple one to start with...
Bangkok give: A. Miles
Tibet give: E. Yeo
Tbag to confirm
Confirm
Kathmandu give: Peter Wright, Dillon Viojo-Rainbow
Taiwan give: Sam Wright
I needed another starting back (I still need one more), and gave up two young lads unfortunately. I gotta stop trading my youth I always do it with every XVs team I get...
Memph to confirm.
Quote from: PowerBug on September 22, 2015, 08:51:27 PM
Kathmandu give: Peter Wright, Dillon Viojo-Rainbow
Taiwan give: Sam Wright
I needed another starting back (I still need one more), and gave up two young lads unfortunately. I gotta stop trading my youth I always do it with every XVs team I get...
Memph to confirm.
Confirm.
Sam Wright is a big loss as he was a starting defender for us and had a bit of a breakout season this year.
However, Two-Metre Peter Wright is going to be a star of the competition in the future so I couldn't pass up the opportunity to acquire him.
Should be a forward/ruck when he's in his prime and getting games this season was just a bonus for him and should see him progress faster. Viojo-Rainbow is talented as well and hopefully a long-term replacement for Sam Wright in our defence.
KL Crocs Give: N57 + N73
Kathmandu Give: N43
PB to confirm
Quote from: Ricochet on September 23, 2015, 08:52:21 PM
KL Crocs Give: N57 + N73
Kathmandu Give: N43
PB to confirm
What even are 3rd round draft picks? I don't have any. This lets me upgrade the 3 kids I want now. Confirmed.
Quote from: tbagrocks on September 22, 2015, 06:50:00 PM
Quote from: Rids on September 20, 2015, 07:38:20 PM
Nice simple one to start with...
Bangkok give: A. Miles
Tibet give: E. Yeo
Tbag to confirm
Confirm
CONFIRMEDReasoning: Two young talents here. Miles averages over 10 more than Yeo, so that helps to make up the difference in position between the two players.
Quote from: Memphistopheles on September 22, 2015, 11:40:48 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on September 22, 2015, 08:51:27 PM
Kathmandu give: Peter Wright, Dillon Viojo-Rainbow
Taiwan give: Sam Wright
I needed another starting back (I still need one more), and gave up two young lads unfortunately. I gotta stop trading my youth I always do it with every XVs team I get...
Memph to confirm.
Confirm.
Sam Wright is a big loss as he was a starting defender for us and had a bit of a breakout season this year.
However, Two-Metre Peter Wright is going to be a star of the competition in the future so I couldn't pass up the opportunity to acquire him.
Should be a forward/ruck when he's in his prime and getting games this season was just a bonus for him and should see him progress faster. Viojo-Rainbow is talented as well and hopefully a long-term replacement for Sam Wright in our defence.
CONFIRMEDReasoning: Sam Wright is one of the better defenders in this format, averaging 91 and cementing his place in North's side. Wright and Viojo-Rainbow both appear to have plenty of potential based on their draft positions, despite the fact that neither have played a game yet, but should do so at their struggling AFL clubs.
Quote from: PowerBug on September 23, 2015, 09:24:52 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 23, 2015, 08:52:21 PM
KL Crocs Give: N57 + N73
Kathmandu Give: N43
PB to confirm
What even are 3rd round draft picks? I don't have any. This lets me upgrade the 3 kids I want now. Confirmed.
CONFIRMEDReasoning: Fairly easy pick swap here to better suit the needs of a couple of teams.
Just because it's been a bit quiet around here.
Bangladesh give: M. Boyd + N. Riewoldt + A. Walker + M. LeCras + G. Ibbotson + B. Harvey + N26
Australia give: A. Tomlinson + S. Mayes + J. Aish + L. Taylor + J. Lonie + M. Hallahan + N76
Ada to confirm
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 25, 2015, 01:55:30 AM
Just because it's been a bit quiet around here.
Bangladesh give: M. Boyd + N. Riewoldt + A. Walker + M. LeCras + G. Ibbotson + B. Harvey + N26
Australia give: A. Tomlinson + S. Mayes + J. Aish + L. Taylor + J. Lonie + M. Hallahan + N76
Ada to confirm
Confirmed.
The rebuilding process has kicked off in huge fashion. Sad to see some club stalwarts and premiership stars depart but very excited about the fresh faces coming through.
Small trade between the Llamas and the Dolphins here.
Taiwan gives: Nat 19 + Nat 35
Tibet gives: Nat 23 + Brad Hill
We need more midfielders and would rather someone already in the system and best 22 so are happy to pick up Brad Hill. Hill is probably worth a bit more than Pick 35 and Tbag wanted a pick in the Top 20 so we make a swap of second round picks to even out the deal.
Tbag to confirm.
Quote from: Memphistopheles on September 26, 2015, 01:34:20 PM
Small trade between the Llamas and the Dolphins here.
Taiwan gives: Nat 19 + Nat 35
Tibet gives: Nat 23 + Brad Hill
We need more midfielders and would rather someone already in the system and best 22 so are happy to pick up Brad Hill. Hill is probably worth a bit more than Pick 35 and Tbag wanted a pick in the Top 20 so we make a swap of second round picks to even out the deal.
Tbag to confirm.
Confirm, suddenly we have an influx of midfield depth and happy to trade a star
Quote from: Adamant on September 25, 2015, 02:02:52 AM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 25, 2015, 01:55:30 AM
Just because it's been a bit quiet around here.
Bangladesh give: M. Boyd + N. Riewoldt + A. Walker + M. LeCras + G. Ibbotson + B. Harvey + N26
Australia give: A. Tomlinson + S. Mayes + J. Aish + L. Taylor + J. Lonie + M. Hallahan + N76
Ada to confirm
Confirmed.
The rebuilding process has kicked off in huge fashion. Sad to see some club stalwarts and premiership stars depart but very excited about the fresh faces coming through.
CONFIRMEDReasoning: Let's go through the age and averages of players here.
Garrick Ibbtson (28 next year) 93 ave
Andrew Walker (30 next year) 82 ave
Brent Harvey (one year left?) 106 ave
Nick Riewoldt (one year left?) 129 ave
Matty Boyd (one year left?) 129ave
Mark Lecras (30 next year) 117 ave
N26
for
Taylor (20 yrs old) 97 ave this year
Tomlinson (22 yrs old) 90 unsubbed ave this year, 97 ave last year
Mayes (21 yrs old) 97.7 ave in very first year, 106 unsubbed
Aish (20 yrs old) 96.5 ave in first year, 100 unsubbed
Lonie (19 yrs old) 85 unsubbed ave this year
Hallahan (23 yrs old) 102 ave this year
N76
Totalling those averages its
Australia Receive: 656
Bangladesh Receive: 587
No doubt that Australia are receiving some high scoring guns, but they will not be around for too long, and Bangladesh are receiving some high quality youth, that will stand them in good stead for years to come. Based on that logic, I'd say that Bangaldesh are up slightly in the trade, and the pick trade does help to balance it out slightly. Based on all of that, we don't see this trade as being too unfair that it should not pass, and is therefore approved.
For those concerned about this trade ruining the integrity of our competition, firstly remember that the Ales' were knocked out in the Semi-Finals last season, and have a right to try and improve their list. Secondly, trades have always been passed with the philosophy that if they are fair, they should pass. As I said in the trade discussion thread: I do feel that if coaches are worried about how trades might affect the integrity of the competition, they could have voted to give themselves more power in this respect in the recent rules voting. I do also realise that quite a few coaches did vote for one of these options, but they were ultimately overruled by the majority which wanted trade approval to remain squarely in the hands of the admins.
In this regard, I am all for coaches expressing their opinions on trades, but I hope we will all be able to move on once a decision has been reached on them.
Quote from: tbagrocks on September 26, 2015, 02:51:34 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on September 26, 2015, 01:34:20 PM
Small trade between the Llamas and the Dolphins here.
Taiwan gives: Nat 19 + Nat 35
Tibet gives: Nat 23 + Brad Hill
We need more midfielders and would rather someone already in the system and best 22 so are happy to pick up Brad Hill. Hill is probably worth a bit more than Pick 35 and Tbag wanted a pick in the Top 20 so we make a swap of second round picks to even out the deal.
Tbag to confirm.
Confirm, suddenly we have an influx of midfield depth and happy to trade a star
CONFIRMEDReasoning: Hill has a decent average, at a tick under 100 but is certainly not premium for a midfielder. A late second round pick with a pick swap as well seems about right for his value.
Strikers give: James Stewart + NAT 13 + NAT 77
PNG give: Ed Curnow + Jarryd Blair + Viv Michie
Rusty to confirm.
Quote from: Jayman on September 28, 2015, 12:08:05 PM
Strikers give: James Stewart + NAT 13 + NAT 77
PNG give: Ed Curnow + Jarryd Blair + Viv Michie
Rusty to confirm.
Confirmed.
Looking to rejuvenate our list with something younger and (in the long run better) than Curnow, Blair and Michie. First round pick enables us to pick up a future gun, Stewart is a youngster who has showed some promise and the late pick enables us to upgrade one of our rookies.
Laos give: Tom Hickey + Billy Longer
UAE give: Jack Riewoldt + Majak Daw
Originally didn't intend to ever give up Hickey + Longer but after missing Goldy in the grand final, that had to change but I was pretty set on not giving them up unless I got the right deal. I noticed Majak scored a solid 130ish the week Goldy was rested and convinced myself that should Goldy go down injured or be rested, Majak would get the ruck job ahead of Currie (who PB told me he would probably not trade). Individually, Majak probably has the least value of anyone in the trade, and Jack provides me with the perfect F4. Hickey + Longer are a solid combo, Longer is the no.1 ruck and Hickey either plays with him or when Longer doesn't.
nas to confirm.
Quote from: Nige on September 28, 2015, 08:35:52 PM
Laos give: Tom Hickey + Billy Longer
UAE give: Jack Riewoldt + Majak Daw
Originally didn't intend to ever give up Hickey + Longer but after missing Goldy in the grand final, that had to change but I was pretty set on not giving them up unless I got the right deal. I noticed Majak scored a solid 130ish the week Goldy was rested and convinced myself that should Goldy go down injured or be rested, Majak would get the ruck job ahead of Currie (who PB told me he would probably not trade). Individually, Majak probably has the least value of anyone in the trade, and Jack provides me with the perfect F4. Hickey + Longer are a solid combo, Longer is the no.1 ruck and Hickey either plays with him or when Longer doesn't.
nas to confirm.
Confirm.
Mongolia give: Pick 16 + Pick 32
Australia give: Jordan Roughead + Pick 28
Nice and easy one that took two PMs to organise. Wanted to sure up the rucks a bit and the picks are to even it out!
JB to confirm
Confirmed! Easiest trade ever!
Mongolia give: Jon Giles
UAE give: Wilbur Minson
Another fairly easy one, trading second-string rucks. Gives me two of the Doggies' rucks, nas now gets all of the Bombers rucks.
Nas to confirm.
Quote from: Toga on September 29, 2015, 07:15:16 PM
Mongolia give: Jon Giles
UAE give: Wilbur Minson
Another fairly easy one, trading second-string rucks. Gives me two of the Doggies' rucks, nas now gets all of the Bombers rucks.
Nas to confirm.
Confirmed.
Bangkok Crabs give Jake Carlisle + Daniel Menzel + Nathan Vardy
Manilla Folders give Dayne Zorko + Nat 17
BB to confirm
Quote from: nostradamus on September 30, 2015, 09:44:28 PM
Bangkok Crabs give Jake Carlisle + Daniel Menzel + Nathan Vardy
Manilla Folders give Dayne Zorko + Nat 17
BB to confirm
Confirm
Definitely a risky trade, but we feel it could definitely be a worthwhile one. Carlisle gives us some flexibility and scoring power, and will hopefully increase his output at a new AFL club next season. Menzel and Vardy are hopefully both over their injury worries, and if they are, then they will be great scorers in this competition, with plenty of goals between them. Parting with Zorko was not an easy choice, but hopefully it turns out to be a worthwhile one.
Australia give: n44 + n60
Uae give: Tom Downie
Quote from: Rusty00 on September 28, 2015, 01:07:15 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 28, 2015, 12:08:05 PM
Strikers give: James Stewart + NAT 13 + NAT 77
PNG give: Ed Curnow + Jarryd Blair + Viv Michie
Rusty to confirm.
Confirmed.
Looking to rejuvenate our list with something younger and (in the long run better) than Curnow, Blair and Michie. First round pick enables us to pick up a future gun, Stewart is a youngster who has showed some promise and the late pick enables us to upgrade one of our rookies.
CONFIRMEDReasoning: Stewart and Michie were similar this year in terms of scoring and games played, and both provide some future potential. Curnow (101 avg) and Blair (92 avg) are both solid players and close enough to the worth of the included picks.
Quote from: nas on September 28, 2015, 09:23:31 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 28, 2015, 08:35:52 PM
Laos give: Tom Hickey + Billy Longer
UAE give: Jack Riewoldt + Majak Daw
Originally didn't intend to ever give up Hickey + Longer but after missing Goldy in the grand final, that had to change but I was pretty set on not giving them up unless I got the right deal. I noticed Majak scored a solid 130ish the week Goldy was rested and convinced myself that should Goldy go down injured or be rested, Majak would get the ruck job ahead of Currie (who PB told me he would probably not trade). Individually, Majak probably has the least value of anyone in the trade, and Jack provides me with the perfect F4. Hickey + Longer are a solid combo, Longer is the no.1 ruck and Hickey either plays with him or when Longer doesn't.
nas to confirm.
Confirm.
CONFIRMEDReasoning: Hickey or Longer will be playing pretty much every week, and should both improve a bit, young rucks who play that decently are certainly hard to find, showing that they do have quite a bit of potential. Riewoldt is a good forward, without being in the top class of premiums. Daw meanwhile has really had a poor year, and given his current circumstances it is unclear what his position will be next year, so he is not worth quite as much, and this trade is close enough to pass.
Quote from: Toga on September 29, 2015, 06:55:23 PM
Mongolia give: Pick 16 + Pick 32
Australia give: Jordan Roughead + Pick 28
Nice and easy one that took two PMs to organise. Wanted to sure up the rucks a bit and the picks are to even it out!
JB to confirm
CONFIRMEDReasoning: Roughead isn't the highest scoring player, but does have some versatility with his position. Pick swap evens it out a bit.
Quote from: nas on September 29, 2015, 07:17:10 PM
Quote from: Toga on September 29, 2015, 07:15:16 PM
Mongolia give: Jon Giles
UAE give: Wilbur Minson
Another fairly easy one, trading second-string rucks. Gives me two of the Doggies' rucks, nas now gets all of the Bombers rucks.
Nas to confirm.
Confirmed.
CONFIRMEDReasoning: A couple of fringe rucks being traded here, nice and easy to pass.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 30, 2015, 10:27:53 PM
Australia give: n44 + n60
Uae give: Tom Downie
CONFIRMEDReasoning: Young ruckmen are hard to come by, and Downie has shown he has potential, but is still something of an unknown. These picks aren't worth a great deal, but still might be able to pick up a couple of decent players.
And the other trade pending between the Folders and Crabs will be up to Ricochet to pass or block.
UAE Tigers give:Shaun McKernan, Tom Bellchambers & Jon Giles.
HK Dongs give: Ryan Schoenmakers & Aaron Young.
Quote from: nas on October 05, 2015, 09:29:57 AM
UAE Tigers give:Shaun McKernan, Tom Bellchambers & Jon Giles.
HK Dongs give: Ryan Schoenmakers & Aaron Young.
Confirmed.
While Mckernan, Belly and Giles aren't the best rucks in the world, at least one of them will play each week, which is something that isn't a certainty with my current rucks.
Quote from: BB67th on September 30, 2015, 09:46:51 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on September 30, 2015, 09:44:28 PM
Bangkok Crabs give Jake Carlisle + Daniel Menzel + Nathan Vardy
Manilla Folders give Dayne Zorko + Nat 17
BB to confirm
Confirm
Definitely a risky trade, but we feel it could definitely be a worthwhile one. Carlisle gives us some flexibility and scoring power, and will hopefully increase his output at a new AFL club next season. Menzel and Vardy are hopefully both over their injury worries, and if they are, then they will be great scorers in this competition, with plenty of goals between them. Parting with Zorko was not an easy choice, but hopefully it turns out to be a worthwhile one.
CONFIRMEDReasoning: BB summed it up pretty well. Fair bit of risk involved here for him and think Crabs win this slightly, but not enough to block. By giving up Zorko BB is able to build the depth of his squad with three boys that have the ability to score very well in this scoring system.
Crocs give: Dawson Simpson
Strikers give: Nat#45
Rico to confirm
Quote from: upthemaidens on October 06, 2015, 07:19:09 PM
Crocs give: Dawson Simpson
Strikers give: Nat#45
Rico to confirm
Confirm. Nice and easy one, cheers mate
Tigers give: M Cox
Crocs give : J Frost.
Rookie listed players swap & enables Crocs to have all the Collingwood rucks.
Quote from: nas on October 07, 2015, 06:46:25 PM
Tigers give: M Cox
Crocs give : J Frost.
Rookie listed players swap & enables Crocs to have all the Collingwood rucks.
Confirmed. Yep some big guns here. Not expecting Cox to turn into anything special but nice to have all three rucks just in case
just a small trade
Crabs give Nat 40
Crocs give Jacob Townsend
We see Townsend as a bit of a spec trade and think Nat 40 is pretty much on the mark for him
Rico to confirm
Quote from: nostradamus on October 09, 2015, 12:06:51 PM
just a small trade
Crabs give Nat 40
Crocs give Jacob Townsend
We see Townsend as a bit of a spec trade and think Nat 40 is pretty much on the mark for him
Rico to confirm
Confirmed. Nice and easy, thanks mate
KL Crocs Give: KStevens + N9 + R25
Hong Kong Give: Buddy
nrich to confirm
Reasoning: Stevens went at a 116ave all year until his final game he was subbed out injured and taken to hospital. The draft isn't deep but the top 12 or so are still elite, so nrich will get a great kid there. And a 2nd round rookie was also chucked in.
oh and.. please don't retire Buddy
flowering LOL
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 10, 2015, 11:25:55 AM
flowering LOL
Rico understands that he has been unfairly beating teams in trades, so he was willing to hand over Stevens and two picks to a bottom side for nothing in return :)
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2015, 11:10:07 AM
KL Crocs Give: KStevens + N9 + R25
Hong Kong Give: Buddy
nrich to confirm
Reasoning: Stevens went at a 116ave all year until his final game he was subbed out injured and taken to hospital. The draft isn't deep but the top 12 or so are still elite, so nrich will get a great kid there. And a 2nd round rookie was also chucked in.
oh and.. please don't retire Buddy
Confirm.
Quote from: nrich102 on October 10, 2015, 02:47:44 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2015, 11:10:07 AM
KL Crocs Give: KStevens + N9 + R25
Hong Kong Give: Buddy
nrich to confirm
Reasoning: Stevens went at a 116ave all year until his final game he was subbed out injured and taken to hospital. The draft isn't deep but the top 12 or so are still elite, so nrich will get a great kid there. And a 2nd round rookie was also chucked in.
oh and.. please don't retire Buddy
Confirm.
bet you couldnt say yes quick enough?? :)
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 11, 2015, 12:01:29 AM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 10, 2015, 02:47:44 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2015, 11:10:07 AM
KL Crocs Give: KStevens + N9 + R25
Hong Kong Give: Buddy
nrich to confirm
Reasoning: Stevens went at a 116ave all year until his final game he was subbed out injured and taken to hospital. The draft isn't deep but the top 12 or so are still elite, so nrich will get a great kid there. And a 2nd round rookie was also chucked in.
oh and.. please don't retire Buddy
Confirm.
bet you couldnt say yes quick enough?? :)
Pretty much lol.
Apologies all for not getting trade approval done sooner. I will not have very much time to be active in the next month or so, just a warning to all. Normally Ric would get the trade approval done in my absence, but seeing as most of these trades involve him, it's a bit hard to!
Quote from: nrich102 on October 05, 2015, 09:33:52 AM
Quote from: nas on October 05, 2015, 09:29:57 AM
UAE Tigers give:Shaun McKernan, Tom Bellchambers & Jon Giles.
HK Dongs give: Ryan Schoenmakers & Aaron Young.
Confirmed.
While Mckernan, Belly and Giles aren't the best rucks in the world, at least one of them will play each week, which is something that isn't a certainty with my current rucks.
CONFIRMEDReasoning: None of these players are really high scorers, though Schoenmakers and Young appear to have more upside, with Schoenmakers putting in a good finals series, and Young potentially moving clubs. Getting the Essendon ruck division is a bonus, but it looks as though they will be picking up more rucks in the off-season, meaning neither of these 3 may be the first choice ruckman come 2016. Fair enough to pass I think.
Quote from: Ricochet on October 06, 2015, 07:20:22 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on October 06, 2015, 07:19:09 PM
Crocs give: Dawson Simpson
Strikers give: Nat#45
Rico to confirm
Confirm. Nice and easy one, cheers mate
CONFIRMEDReasoning: Simpson played a few games and seemed to be on the outer this year, but could still get a few regular games at Geelong, and rucks are hard to come by.
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2015, 06:55:43 PM
Quote from: nas on October 07, 2015, 06:46:25 PM
Tigers give: M Cox
Crocs give : J Frost.
Rookie listed players swap & enables Crocs to have all the Collingwood rucks.
Confirmed. Yep some big guns here. Not expecting Cox to turn into anything special but nice to have all three rucks just in case
CONFIRMEDReasoning: Two real depth players being traded here, nice and easy one.
Quote from: Ricochet on October 09, 2015, 12:11:24 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on October 09, 2015, 12:06:51 PM
just a small trade
Crabs give Nat 40
Crocs give Jacob Townsend
We see Townsend as a bit of a spec trade and think Nat 40 is pretty much on the mark for him
Rico to confirm
Confirmed. Nice and easy, thanks mate
CONFIRMEDReasoning: He has been out of favour at the Giants, but getting a likely trade will give Townsend another opportunity, having similar potential to a draft pick around the 40 mark arriving at a new club.
Quote from: nrich102 on October 10, 2015, 02:47:44 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2015, 11:10:07 AM
KL Crocs Give: KStevens + N9 + R25
Hong Kong Give: Buddy
nrich to confirm
Reasoning: Stevens went at a 116ave all year until his final game he was subbed out injured and taken to hospital. The draft isn't deep but the top 12 or so are still elite, so nrich will get a great kid there. And a 2nd round rookie was also chucked in.
oh and.. please don't retire Buddy
Confirm.
CONFIRMEDReasoning: Stevens is a decent scoring midfielder, with an average over 110, and is packaged with a top 10 pick and a decent rookie pick. Franklin is an elite player at his best, and while it is questionable as to whether he will get back to that, it seems to be a fair price to pay for a player who has the ability to be the highest scoring player in this form of the game.
Strikers give: Nat#29
Folders give: Jarrad Waite
BB to confirm
Quote from: upthemaidens on October 14, 2015, 09:07:27 PM
Strikers give: Nat#29
Folders give: Jarrad Waite
BB to confirm
Confirmed
This helps us get some more youth in and get rid of Waite, who probably has a season or two left in him at best. We have the forward depth to cover his loss, so it shouldn't hurt our scoring power too much.
Bangladesh give: Joel Selwood + Lachie Hansen + N42
Kuala Lumpur give: Tom Liberatore + Shane Savage + Jimmy Webster
Reasoning: It hurts me to trade a club legend in Jelwood but this is the best move for us going forward. Libba is a star and will be around for a very long time, hopefully he can come close to Joel. I like Savage as a youngish defender, which we are lacking at the moment, and Webster for N42 was just to sweeten the deal.
Rico to confirm.
Quote from: Adamant on October 14, 2015, 10:25:50 PM
Bangladesh give: Joel Selwood + Lachie Hansen + N42
Kuala Lumpur give: Tom Liberatore + Shane Savage + Jimmy Webster
Reasoning: It hurts me to trade a club legend in Jelwood but this is the best move for us going forward. Libba is a star and will be around for a very long time, hopefully he can come close to Joel. I like Savage as a youngish defender, which we are lacking at the moment, and Webster for N42 was just to sweeten the deal.
Rico to confirm.
confirm. Cheers mate
Bangkok trade: Nat 56
Hong Kong trade: Jon Giles
Giles probs won't play much at West Coast, so I don't really need him. Nat 56 could pick up a decent player.
Looks like I'm getting a better deal than West Coast as well lol.
Nost/Rids to confirm.
Quote from: nrich102 on October 20, 2015, 07:24:47 PM
Bangkok trade: Nat 56
Hong Kong trade: Jon Giles
Giles probs won't play much at West Coast, so I don't really need him. Nat 56 could pick up a decent player.
Looks like I'm getting a better deal than West Coast as well lol.
Nost/Rids to confirm.
Confirmed. Giles is back up for Nic Nat. Nice easy trade this one!
Quote from: BB67th on October 14, 2015, 09:51:20 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on October 14, 2015, 09:07:27 PM
Strikers give: Nat#29
Folders give: Jarrad Waite
BB to confirm
Confirmed
This helps us get some more youth in and get rid of Waite, who probably has a season or two left in him at best. We have the forward depth to cover his loss, so it shouldn't hurt our scoring power too much.
CONFIRMEDReasoning: Pretty simple one. A second rounder for a 100+ older forward. And a trade that helps both teams
Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2015, 10:34:03 PM
Quote from: Adamant on October 14, 2015, 10:25:50 PM
Bangladesh give: Joel Selwood + Lachie Hansen + N42
Kuala Lumpur give: Tom Liberatore + Shane Savage + Jimmy Webster
Reasoning: It hurts me to trade a club legend in Jelwood but this is the best move for us going forward. Libba is a star and will be around for a very long time, hopefully he can come close to Joel. I like Savage as a youngish defender, which we are lacking at the moment, and Webster for N42 was just to sweeten the deal.
Rico to confirm.
confirm. Cheers mate
CONFIRMEDReasoning: Liberatore is a good young talent, but coming off a knee reco, there have to be questions about whether he can get to the top level of player that Selwood has shown he is. Savage has shown a bit as a defender this year, and has had a higher output than Savage, who has had his share of injury troubles. The swap of Webster and the pick evens things out a bit more.
Quote from: Rids on October 20, 2015, 07:51:56 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 20, 2015, 07:24:47 PM
Bangkok trade: Nat 56
Hong Kong trade: Jon Giles
Giles probs won't play much at West Coast, so I don't really need him. Nat 56 could pick up a decent player.
Looks like I'm getting a better deal than West Coast as well lol.
Nost/Rids to confirm.
CONFIRMEDReasoning: Pretty easy one here, Giles has found himself on the outer, and that pick is about right for him.
Things have certainly slowed down a bit around here the last few weeks, but that is to be somewhat expected in the off-season.
A pm will be going out shortly to all coaches with details on dates for the end of this trade period and the start of drafting, its certainly not too far away now!
KL Crocs Give: R41
PNG Give: R53 + Jacob Ballard
Rust to confirm
Quote from: Ricochet on October 25, 2015, 10:05:07 PM
KL Crocs Give: R41
PNG Give: R53 + Jacob Ballard
Rust to confirm
confirm
KL Crocs Give: N25
Bangkok Give: Curren + Lester
Rids to confirm
Quote from: Ricochet on October 26, 2015, 04:15:12 PM
KL Crocs Give: N25
Bangkok Give: Curren + Lester
Rids to confirm
Confirmed. Nice and easy one here. 2 good depth players for a 2nd rd pick.
Bangkok give: nat 25 + B. McKenzie
Taiwan give: nat 23
Memph to confirm
Reasoning: I am aware that this is not needed but we were delisting McKenzie anyways so we get to advance a couple of spots in the nat draft and Taiwan get a guy who just signed a one year extension for 2016. If he gets games he will be awesome depth for Taiwan.
Quote from: Rids on October 29, 2015, 02:28:13 PM
Bangkok give: nat 25 + B. McKenzie
Taiwan give: nat 23
Memph to confirm
Reasoning: I am aware that this is not needed but we were delisting McKenzie anyways so we get to advance a couple of spots in the nat draft and Taiwan get a guy who just signed a one year extension for 2016. If he gets games he will be awesome depth for Taiwan.
Confirm.
Happy to back my knowledge and slip back a whole two spots in the draft :P to get another youngster with potential. We need as much talent as we can get, especially in the midfield, so happy to pick up McKenzie.
For the record I'm not sure McKenzie will get games at North. But, I do think he has enough talent to get picked up by another club at the end of next season if he doesn't play this year. And, then I think he can thrive. So, as i'm already playing the long game another prospect won't hurt.
Bangkok Crabs give Tom Hawkins + Nat 24
UAE Tigers give Jack Ziebell
A nice simple trade, nas gets the starting fwd he needs and we get the mid depth we need
nas to confirm
Quote from: nostradamus on October 30, 2015, 10:06:32 AM
Bangkok Crabs give Tom Hawkins + Nat 24
UAE Tigers give Jack Ziebell
A nice simple trade, nas gets the starting fwd he needs and we get the mid depth we need
nas to confirm
Confirm.
Quote from: Memphistopheles on October 29, 2015, 03:40:43 PM
Quote from: Rids on October 29, 2015, 02:28:13 PM
Bangkok give: nat 25 + B. McKenzie
Taiwan give: nat 23
Memph to confirm
Reasoning: I am aware that this is not needed but we were delisting McKenzie anyways so we get to advance a couple of spots in the nat draft and Taiwan get a guy who just signed a one year extension for 2016. If he gets games he will be awesome depth for Taiwan.
Confirm.
Happy to back my knowledge and slip back a whole two spots in the draft :P to get another youngster with potential. We need as much talent as we can get, especially in the midfield, so happy to pick up McKenzie.
For the record I'm not sure McKenzie will get games at North. But, I do think he has enough talent to get picked up by another club at the end of next season if he doesn't play this year. And, then I think he can thrive. So, as i'm already playing the long game another prospect won't hurt.
CONFIRMEDReasoning: Nice and easy. Depth used for a pick upgrade.
Quote from: nas on October 30, 2015, 10:08:12 AM
Quote from: nostradamus on October 30, 2015, 10:06:32 AM
Bangkok Crabs give Tom Hawkins + Nat 24
UAE Tigers give Jack Ziebell
A nice simple trade, nas gets the starting fwd he needs and we get the mid depth we need
nas to confirm
Confirm.
CONFIRMEDReasoning: Hawkins had a down year, but is still in his prime and is easily seen as a 100+ forward (which are hard to come by atm). JZ averaged more, but he looks like he'll be a mid only next year. The 2nd round pick makes up the difference in scoring and age.
Quote from: Rusty00 on October 25, 2015, 10:09:49 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 25, 2015, 10:05:07 PM
KL Crocs Give: R41
PNG Give: R53 + Jacob Ballard
Rust to confirm
confirm
CONFIRMEDReasoning: Nice easy pick and player swap here.
Quote from: Rids on October 26, 2015, 04:23:48 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 26, 2015, 04:15:12 PM
KL Crocs Give: N25
Bangkok Give: Curren + Lester
Rids to confirm
Confirmed. Nice and easy one here. 2 good depth players for a 2nd rd pick.
CONFIRMEDReasoning: Rids said it all really, 2 decent depth players for a second round pick, fair enough trade.
Apologies also for my recent inactivity. From late next week onwards I will be back online in my full capacity.
In the meantime, Ric is able to process any trades that don't involve the Crocs.
Hong Kong Dongs Trade: Nat 4 + Ballantyne
Bangkok Crabs Trade: Nat 8 + Nat 23 + Nat 72
Need some more draft picks to fill my list up, and this improves my draft position.
Rids/Nost to confirm
Quote from: nrich102 on November 07, 2015, 11:57:40 AM
Hong Kong Dongs Trade: Nat 4 + Ballantyne
Bangkok Crabs Trade: Nat 8 + Nat 23 + Nat 72
Need some more draft picks to fill my list up, and this improves my draft position.
Rids/Nost to confirm
Confirmed, Balla will be solid bench cover for us and Nat 4 means we're more likely to get the guy we've targeted.
Hong Kong Dongs trade: Paul Puopolo + R68
UAE Tigers trade: Ryan Bastinac + N78
I get a Lions player who should slot into my midfield, and an extra National Draft pick which is helpful. Sucks to lose Poopy, but Basti should score more than him this year.
Nas to Confirm.
Quote from: nrich102 on November 08, 2015, 06:59:23 PM
Hong Kong Dongs trade: Paul Puopolo + R68
UAE Tigers trade: Ryan Bastinac + N78
I get a Lions player who should slot into my midfield, and an extra National Draft pick which is helpful. Sucks to lose Poopy, but Basti should score more than him this year.
Nas to Confirm.
Confirm. Looking for that last Fwd & Poppy fills the void.
Quote from: nostradamus on November 07, 2015, 12:00:11 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on November 07, 2015, 11:57:40 AM
Hong Kong Dongs Trade: Nat 4 + Ballantyne
Bangkok Crabs Trade: Nat 8 + Nat 23 + Nat 72
Need some more draft picks to fill my list up, and this improves my draft position.
Rids/Nost to confirm
Confirmed, Balla will be solid bench cover for us and Nat 4 means we're more likely to get the guy we've targeted.
CONFIRMEDReasoning: A slight win to Bangkok here but not blockable. Nat 23 is just > Ballantyne, balancing out the upgrade from N8 to N4.
Quote from: nas on November 08, 2015, 07:07:23 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on November 08, 2015, 06:59:23 PM
Hong Kong Dongs trade: Paul Puopolo + R68
UAE Tigers trade: Ryan Bastinac + N78
I get a Lions player who should slot into my midfield, and an extra National Draft pick which is helpful. Sucks to lose Poopy, but Basti should score more than him this year.
Nas to Confirm.
Confirm. Looking for that last Fwd & Poppy fills the void.
CONFIRMEDReasoning: Pretty straight forward. Puopolo being a fwd attracts a little more value than Basti even though similar scorers. R68 to N78 balances it out
Quote from: nas on November 16, 2015, 10:03:26 PM
PNG Head Hunters give Jeremy Laidler.
UAE Tigers give Rookie Pick #30.
PNG get their early Rookie Draft Pick & UAE get some depth down back.
PNG to Confirm.
Confirmed.
Laidler not really in our long term plans and this helps us move up the rookie order.
PNG Head Hunters trade: N53
Mongolia Lambs trade: N64 + N80
Simple pick upgrade to give me an extra pick for rookie upgrades
Toga to confirm
Hong Kong Dongs Trade: N23
KL Crocs Trade: N41, N42 + R53
Pretty much I need to fill my list up and pick 41 and 42 will be handy pickups, although not quite as good as N23, R53 evens it out.
Rico to confirm
Quote from: Rusty00 on November 17, 2015, 08:59:43 PM
PNG Head Hunters trade: N53
Mongolia Lambs trade: N64 + N80
Simple pick upgrade to give me an extra pick for rookie upgrades
Toga to confirm
Confirmed
Quote from: nrich102 on November 17, 2015, 09:01:32 PM
Hong Kong Dongs Trade: N23
KL Crocs Trade: N41, N42 + R53
Pretty much I need to fill my list up and pick 41 and 42 will be handy pickups, although not quite as good as N23, R53 evens it out.
Confirmed
Quote from: Rusty00 on November 16, 2015, 10:22:31 PM
Quote from: nas on November 16, 2015, 10:03:26 PM
PNG Head Hunters give Jeremy Laidler.
UAE Tigers give Rookie Pick #30.
PNG get their early Rookie Draft Pick & UAE get some depth down back.
PNG to Confirm.
Confirmed.
Laidler not really in our long term plans and this helps us move up the rookie order.
CONFIRMEDReasoning: Laidler is not a high scoring player, but at least bring something. Rookie 30 isn't a great pick, but has the potential to pick up a decent player.
Quote from: Toga on November 17, 2015, 09:07:34 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on November 17, 2015, 08:59:43 PM
PNG Head Hunters trade: N53
Mongolia Lambs trade: N64 + N80
Simple pick upgrade to give me an extra pick for rookie upgrades
Toga to confirm
Confirmed
CONFIRMEDReasoning: Fairly easy pick swap here.
Quote from: Ricochet on November 17, 2015, 09:18:06 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on November 17, 2015, 09:01:32 PM
Hong Kong Dongs Trade: N23
KL Crocs Trade: N41, N42 + R53
Pretty much I need to fill my list up and pick 41 and 42 will be handy pickups, although not quite as good as N23, R53 evens it out.
Confirmed
CONFIRMEDReasoning: Another easy pick swap to better suit the needs of a few teams.
Just checking through the list on the OP for the Crabs and noticed there was no Jon Giles. Nat 56 in the picks list is correct. Could this please be updated?
TRADE #22: CONFIRMED
Bangkok trade: Nat 56
Hong Kong trade: Jon Giles
Reasoning: Pretty easy one here, Giles has found himself on the outer, and that pick is about right for him.
Quote from: Rids on November 20, 2015, 10:20:34 AM
Just checking through the list on the OP for the Crabs and noticed there was no Jon Giles. Nat 56 in the picks list is correct. Could this please be updated?
TRADE #22: CONFIRMED
Bangkok trade: Nat 56
Hong Kong trade: Jon Giles
Reasoning: Pretty easy one here, Giles has found himself on the outer, and that pick is about right for him.
Sorry about that Rids, missed moving him over to your list somehow.
All fixed up now.
Quote from: BB67th on November 20, 2015, 12:10:19 PM
Quote from: Rids on November 20, 2015, 10:20:34 AM
Just checking through the list on the OP for the Crabs and noticed there was no Jon Giles. Nat 56 in the picks list is correct. Could this please be updated?
TRADE #22: CONFIRMED
Bangkok trade: Nat 56
Hong Kong trade: Jon Giles
Reasoning: Pretty easy one here, Giles has found himself on the outer, and that pick is about right for him.
Sorry about that Rids, missed moving him over to your list somehow.
All fixed up now.
Cheers matey. Just doing the spring clean prior to drafts.
Bangladesh gives: Aaron Sandilands, Jesse White, NAT 76
Kathmandu gives: Riley Knight, NAT 27, NAT 57
Quote from: PowerBug on November 21, 2015, 12:46:58 AM
Bangladesh gives: Aaron Sandilands, Jesse White, NAT 76
Kathmandu gives: Riley Knight, NAT 27, NAT 57
Confirmed.
Liked what Knight did late in the season and the second round pick is handy.
Just a note that the deadline for the First Trade Period is at midnight tonight AEDT.
Trades must be posted by this time, they can still be confirmed afterwards if coaches are not able to post confirmation right away.
Trade Period 1:
Bangladesh give: Rookie 26
Tibet give:
Trade Period 2:
Bangladesh give: Alipate Carlile
Tibet give: Jack Fitzpatrick
Just completing my set of the Hawthorn rucks. Will chuck this up now as well as proof in case tbag doesn't confirm it in time:
Quote from: tbagrocks on November 21, 2015, 01:38:41 PM
Quote from: Adamant on November 20, 2015, 10:33:15 PM
Rookie Pick #26 for Fitzpatrick?
Alright mate ill take the trade :)
Just added Carlile so it's a 1 for 1 deal in the second period as I don't have enough list movements to do it this period.
Strikers give: Reece Conca+ Cam Shenton+ Jed Lamb+ N#61
Dongs give: Michael Rischitelli+ Danyle Pearce+ N#68
nrich to confirm
Quote from: upthemaidens on November 22, 2015, 12:06:42 AM
Strikers give: Reece Conca+ Cam Shenton+ Jed Lamb+ N#61
Dongs give: Michael Rischitelli+ Danyle Pearce+ N#68
nrich to confirm
Confirm.
Strikers give: Danny Stanley+ N#68+ R#13
Folders give: R#1
BB to confirm
Quote from: upthemaidens on November 22, 2015, 12:20:48 AM
Strikers give: Danny Stanley+ N#68+ R#13
Folders give: R#1
BB to confirm
Confirm
There isn't a whole heap of talent in the rookie pool currently, so I don't really mind parting with rookie pick 1. Stanley is a good talent, and hopefully he can improve his scoring output a bit over the year and improve some of my depth. Nat 68 helps me to do the rookie upgrades I want, and rookie 13 ensures that I don't move down the order too much.
Danny Stanley got delisted?
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 22, 2015, 02:11:20 PM
Danny Stanley got delisted?
Yep. Has 1 year left on contract and will be picked up on the rookie list for the Suns. Not sure the rules allow for a player who has been delisted to be traded. This is one scenario I have been talking about.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 22, 2015, 02:11:20 PM
Danny Stanley got delisted?
Yeah but the Suns committed they will pick him back up as a rookie. We would have kept him if we didn't trade him.
Quote from: Rids on November 22, 2015, 02:25:27 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 22, 2015, 02:11:20 PM
Danny Stanley got delisted?
Yep. Has 1 year left on contract and will be picked up on the rookie list for the Suns. Not sure the rules allow for a player who has been delisted to be traded. This is one scenario I have been talking about.
There is no rule against trading such a player.
With there already being provision for de-listed players who can be re-rookied in the drafting/trading rules, I'm not too sure what else should be done to change them?
Quote from: BB67th on November 22, 2015, 03:40:36 PM
Quote from: Rids on November 22, 2015, 02:25:27 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 22, 2015, 02:11:20 PM
Danny Stanley got delisted?
Yep. Has 1 year left on contract and will be picked up on the rookie list for the Suns. Not sure the rules allow for a player who has been delisted to be traded. This is one scenario I have been talking about.
There is no rule against trading such a player.
With there already being provision for de-listed players who can be re-rookied in the drafting/trading rules, I'm not too sure what else should be done to change them?
Surely players have to be on a list when trading? Colli always ruled this way as I had the same discussion with him in regards to Heath Scotland a few years back.
Also, should a rookie listed player be on your senior list without being elevated?
Quote from: Rids on November 22, 2015, 03:46:48 PM
Quote from: BB67th on November 22, 2015, 03:40:36 PM
Quote from: Rids on November 22, 2015, 02:25:27 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 22, 2015, 02:11:20 PM
Danny Stanley got delisted?
Yep. Has 1 year left on contract and will be picked up on the rookie list for the Suns. Not sure the rules allow for a player who has been delisted to be traded. This is one scenario I have been talking about.
There is no rule against trading such a player.
With there already being provision for de-listed players who can be re-rookied in the drafting/trading rules, I'm not too sure what else should be done to change them?
Surely players have to be on a list when trading? Colli always ruled this way as I had the same discussion with him in regards to Heath Scotland a few years back.
Also, should a rookie listed player be on your senior list without being elevated?
Perhaps it can be put to a vote in the future then, but personally I don't really see a problem with trading players that are likely to be re-rookied by their AFL clubs. Coaches should know the risks involved if they are going through with such trades.
And there is no real way to stop players in this situation from ending up on a senior AXV list when they have been demoted to a rookie AFL list. Unless you wanted to force coaches to do the same as AFL clubs and use a rookie pick on them, when they may not be willing to.
Quote from: BB67th on November 22, 2015, 03:59:29 PM
Quote from: Rids on November 22, 2015, 03:46:48 PM
Quote from: BB67th on November 22, 2015, 03:40:36 PM
Quote from: Rids on November 22, 2015, 02:25:27 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 22, 2015, 02:11:20 PM
Danny Stanley got delisted?
Yep. Has 1 year left on contract and will be picked up on the rookie list for the Suns. Not sure the rules allow for a player who has been delisted to be traded. This is one scenario I have been talking about.
There is no rule against trading such a player.
With there already being provision for de-listed players who can be re-rookied in the drafting/trading rules, I'm not too sure what else should be done to change them?
Surely players have to be on a list when trading? Colli always ruled this way as I had the same discussion with him in regards to Heath Scotland a few years back.
Also, should a rookie listed player be on your senior list without being elevated?
Perhaps it can be put to a vote in the future then, but personally I don't really see a problem with trading players that are likely to be re-rookied by their AFL clubs. Coaches should know the risks involved if they are going through with such trades.
And there is no real way to stop players in this situation from ending up on a senior AXV list when they have been demoted to a rookie AFL list. Unless you wanted to force coaches to do the same as AFL clubs and use a rookie pick on them, when they may not be willing to.
Sorry but why have a senior and rookie list then? It is something that Nostra and I have been talking about for a few years now. There should be a squad and then the rookies chosen from the squad which would eliminate issues.
AXV has always tried to mimic AFL. Hence why the past rulings have been like they have. If these rules have now changed then all good. They do need to become public knowledge.
Quote from: Rids on November 22, 2015, 03:46:48 PM
Quote from: BB67th on November 22, 2015, 03:40:36 PM
Quote from: Rids on November 22, 2015, 02:25:27 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 22, 2015, 02:11:20 PM
Danny Stanley got delisted?
Yep. Has 1 year left on contract and will be picked up on the rookie list for the Suns. Not sure the rules allow for a player who has been delisted to be traded. This is one scenario I have been talking about.
There is no rule against trading such a player.
With there already being provision for de-listed players who can be re-rookied in the drafting/trading rules, I'm not too sure what else should be done to change them?
Surely players have to be on a list when trading? Colli always ruled this way as I had the same discussion with him in regards to Heath Scotland a few years back.
Also, should a rookie listed player be on your senior list without being elevated?
Greg Broughton was not on an AFL list when traded last year. Same situation, he got re-rookied as well.
Quote from: Rids on November 22, 2015, 04:03:10 PM
Quote from: BB67th on November 22, 2015, 03:59:29 PM
Quote from: Rids on November 22, 2015, 03:46:48 PM
Quote from: BB67th on November 22, 2015, 03:40:36 PM
Quote from: Rids on November 22, 2015, 02:25:27 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 22, 2015, 02:11:20 PM
Danny Stanley got delisted?
Yep. Has 1 year left on contract and will be picked up on the rookie list for the Suns. Not sure the rules allow for a player who has been delisted to be traded. This is one scenario I have been talking about.
There is no rule against trading such a player.
With there already being provision for de-listed players who can be re-rookied in the drafting/trading rules, I'm not too sure what else should be done to change them?
Surely players have to be on a list when trading? Colli always ruled this way as I had the same discussion with him in regards to Heath Scotland a few years back.
Also, should a rookie listed player be on your senior list without being elevated?
Perhaps it can be put to a vote in the future then, but personally I don't really see a problem with trading players that are likely to be re-rookied by their AFL clubs. Coaches should know the risks involved if they are going through with such trades.
And there is no real way to stop players in this situation from ending up on a senior AXV list when they have been demoted to a rookie AFL list. Unless you wanted to force coaches to do the same as AFL clubs and use a rookie pick on them, when they may not be willing to.
Sorry but why have a senior and rookie list then? It is something that Nostra and I have been talking about for a few years now. There should be a squad and then the rookies chosen from the squad which would eliminate issues.
AXV has always tried to mimic AFL. Hence why the past rulings have been like they have. If these rules have now changed then all good. They do need to become public knowledge.
I'm not really sure how that negates the need for the senior/rookie system. That whole system was part of the rule changes votes we recently had, and the competition as a whole voted to keep it as it is.
We do try to mimic the AFL, but in some cases it is hard to get things exactly the same and keep as a completely fair competition. I think forcing coaches to de-list players and use their draft picks to re-rookie them just because an AFL club does is not fair in forcing coaches to use picks in a certain manner.
Quote from: upthemaidens on November 22, 2015, 04:05:52 PM
Quote from: Rids on November 22, 2015, 03:46:48 PM
Quote from: BB67th on November 22, 2015, 03:40:36 PM
Quote from: Rids on November 22, 2015, 02:25:27 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 22, 2015, 02:11:20 PM
Danny Stanley got delisted?
Yep. Has 1 year left on contract and will be picked up on the rookie list for the Suns. Not sure the rules allow for a player who has been delisted to be traded. This is one scenario I have been talking about.
There is no rule against trading such a player.
With there already being provision for de-listed players who can be re-rookied in the drafting/trading rules, I'm not too sure what else should be done to change them?
Surely players have to be on a list when trading? Colli always ruled this way as I had the same discussion with him in regards to Heath Scotland a few years back.
Also, should a rookie listed player be on your senior list without being elevated?
Greg Broughton was not on an AFL list when traded last year. Same situation, he got re-rookied as well.
Broughton was traded in AXV prior to being delisted and rookied so it is a different situation to this one.
I have no issue with it. But I do want clarity in regards to this in regards to rules. There is a lot of grey at the moment of what can be and cant be done. If this is the way it will be moving forward then all good. But it does need to be captured in the rules somewhere so we don't keep having the same conversation year after year.
Quote from: BB67th on November 22, 2015, 04:07:26 PM
Quote from: Rids on November 22, 2015, 04:03:10 PM
Quote from: BB67th on November 22, 2015, 03:59:29 PM
Quote from: Rids on November 22, 2015, 03:46:48 PM
Quote from: BB67th on November 22, 2015, 03:40:36 PM
Quote from: Rids on November 22, 2015, 02:25:27 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 22, 2015, 02:11:20 PM
Danny Stanley got delisted?
Yep. Has 1 year left on contract and will be picked up on the rookie list for the Suns. Not sure the rules allow for a player who has been delisted to be traded. This is one scenario I have been talking about.
There is no rule against trading such a player.
With there already being provision for de-listed players who can be re-rookied in the drafting/trading rules, I'm not too sure what else should be done to change them?
Surely players have to be on a list when trading? Colli always ruled this way as I had the same discussion with him in regards to Heath Scotland a few years back.
Also, should a rookie listed player be on your senior list without being elevated?
Perhaps it can be put to a vote in the future then, but personally I don't really see a problem with trading players that are likely to be re-rookied by their AFL clubs. Coaches should know the risks involved if they are going through with such trades.
And there is no real way to stop players in this situation from ending up on a senior AXV list when they have been demoted to a rookie AFL list. Unless you wanted to force coaches to do the same as AFL clubs and use a rookie pick on them, when they may not be willing to.
Sorry but why have a senior and rookie list then? It is something that Nostra and I have been talking about for a few years now. There should be a squad and then the rookies chosen from the squad which would eliminate issues.
AXV has always tried to mimic AFL. Hence why the past rulings have been like they have. If these rules have now changed then all good. They do need to become public knowledge.
I'm not really sure how that negates the need for the senior/rookie system. That whole system was part of the rule changes votes we recently had, and the competition as a whole voted to keep it as it is.
We do try to mimic the AFL, but in some cases it is hard to get things exactly the same and keep as a completely fair competition. I think forcing coaches to de-list players and use their draft picks to re-rookie them just because an AFL club does is not fair in forcing coaches to use picks in a certain manner.
I am not after that at all. I am after a rule to be made that is clear and precise moving forward to capture this kind of scenario. At the moment there isn't one.
At the end of the day the scenario is that a team is trading in a player who is currently delisted and being placed on the senior list. The player has been guaranteed a rookie spot from his AFL club. If this is allowed and I really don't mind if it is, we should be adding the specific scenario to the rules that are there so everyone is aware.
Just to confirm that Broughton was traded prior to being delisted last year -
Quote from: nostradamus on October 14, 2014, 09:39:15 PM
A nice quick trade with Toga 8)
Bangkok Crabs give: Greg Broughton + Nat 23
Mongolian Lambs give: Toby Nankervis + Nat 26
Toga to confirm
He was then delisted 2 weeks later
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-31/broughton-squeezed-out
This will be the first time this situation (player being traded whilst delisted) has occurred in AXV from my understanding (which I stand corrected as per below) but will become more common moving forward.
Quote from: Rids on November 22, 2015, 04:27:12 PM
Just to confirm that Broughton was traded prior to being delisted last year -
Quote from: nostradamus on October 14, 2014, 09:39:15 PM
A nice quick trade with Toga 8)
Bangkok Crabs give: Greg Broughton + Nat 23
Mongolian Lambs give: Toby Nankervis + Nat 26
Toga to confirm
He was then delisted 2 weeks later
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-31/broughton-squeezed-out
This will be the first time this situation (player being traded whilst delisted) has occurred in AXV from my understanding but will become more common moving forward.
Re: AXVS: OFFICIAL TRADE THREAD (2014/15)
« Reply #698 on:
November 15, 2014, 08:28:33 PM »
Reply with quote
Period 1
DONGS give: B.Stanton
LAMBS give: N10 + N42 + L.Dunn
Period 2
DONGS give: R.Murphy + J.Bartel + L.Montagna + J.Schulz
LAMBS give: G.Broughton + Aaron Young + H.Balantyne + Travis Colyer
Final trade
DONGS give: B.Stanton + L.Montagna + J.Schulz + R.Murphy + J.Bartel
LAMBS give: N10 + N42 + L.Dunn+ H.Ballantyne +
G.Broughton + A.Young + Travis Colyer
Toga to confirm :)
^^^cough cough^^ what was that Rids? He was NOT on an AFL list when this trade got done, and wasn't until the rookie draft.
Quote from: upthemaidens on November 22, 2015, 04:35:16 PM
Quote from: Rids on November 22, 2015, 04:27:12 PM
Just to confirm that Broughton was traded prior to being delisted last year -
Quote from: nostradamus on October 14, 2014, 09:39:15 PM
A nice quick trade with Toga 8)
Bangkok Crabs give: Greg Broughton + Nat 23
Mongolian Lambs give: Toby Nankervis + Nat 26
Toga to confirm
He was then delisted 2 weeks later
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-31/broughton-squeezed-out
This will be the first time this situation (player being traded whilst delisted) has occurred in AXV from my understanding but will become more common moving forward.
Re: AXVS: OFFICIAL TRADE THREAD (2014/15)
« Reply #698 on: November 15, 2014, 08:28:33 PM »
Reply with quote
Period 1
DONGS give: B.Stanton
LAMBS give: N10 + N42 + L.Dunn
Period 2
DONGS give: R.Murphy + J.Bartel + L.Montagna + J.Schulz
LAMBS give: G.Broughton + Aaron Young + H.Balantyne + Travis Colyer
Final trade
DONGS give: B.Stanton + L.Montagna + J.Schulz + R.Murphy + J.Bartel
LAMBS give: N10 + N42 + L.Dunn+ H.Ballantyne + G.Broughton + A.Young + Travis Colyer
Toga to confirm :)
^^^cough cough^^ what was that Rids? He was NOT on an AFL list when this trade got done, and wasn't until the rookie draft.
Haha! Nice work ;D
Quote from: Rids on November 22, 2015, 04:17:27 PM
At the end of the day the scenario is that a team is trading in a player who is currently delisted and being placed on the senior list. The player has been guaranteed a rookie spot from his AFL club. If this is allowed and I really don't mind if it is, we should be adding the specific scenario to the rules that are there so everyone is aware.
That's fair enough mate, I didn't realise it wasn't included in the actual rules. I will make sure it gets added in, as this practice has been happening for a season or two now at least, and I don't think any coaches seem to have an issue with it.
Quote from: BB67th on November 22, 2015, 11:27:23 AM
Quote from: upthemaidens on November 22, 2015, 12:20:48 AM
Strikers give: Danny Stanley+ N#68+ R#13
Folders give: R#1
BB to confirm
Confirm
There isn't a whole heap of talent in the rookie pool currently, so I don't really mind parting with rookie pick 1. Stanley is a good talent, and hopefully he can improve his scoring output a bit over the year and improve some of my depth. Nat 68 helps me to do the rookie upgrades I want, and rookie 13 ensures that I don't move down the order too much.
CONFIRMEDReasoning: Stanley has been delisted but GC have committed to picking him up. There are others in the rookie draft pool who have greater value than him (including rookies expected to be drafted), so additional picks are required.
Quote from: Adamant on November 21, 2015, 11:24:50 PM
Trade Period 1:
Bangladesh give: Rookie 26
Tibet give:
Trade Period 2:
Bangladesh give: Alipate Carlile
Tibet give: Jack Fitzpatrick
Just completing my set of the Hawthorn rucks. Will chuck this up now as well as proof in case tbag doesn't confirm it in time:
Quote from: tbagrocks on November 21, 2015, 01:38:41 PM
Quote from: Adamant on November 20, 2015, 10:33:15 PM
Rookie Pick #26 for Fitzpatrick?
Alright mate ill take the trade :)
Just added Carlile so it's a 1 for 1 deal in the second period as I don't have enough list movements to do it this period.
CONFIRMEDReasoning: Carlile is not a big scorer. Fitzpatrick has shown a bit of potential, but has a slightly questionable future moving to a new club. Maybe not exactly even, but close enough to pass with a few fringe players.
Quote from: Adamant on November 21, 2015, 12:51:03 AM
Quote from: PowerBug on November 21, 2015, 12:46:58 AM
Bangladesh gives: Aaron Sandilands, Jesse White, NAT 76
Kathmandu gives: Riley Knight, NAT 27, NAT 57
Confirmed.
Liked what Knight did late in the season and the second round pick is handy.
CONFIRMEDReasoning: Sandilands is still one of the best ruckmen in the game, but he can't have too long left. White was a decent scoring forward, but is still a depth player. Knight showed some real promise in the back half of the season, and the accompanying pick swap evens things out nicely.
Quote from: nrich102 on November 22, 2015, 12:08:15 AM
Quote from: upthemaidens on November 22, 2015, 12:06:42 AM
Strikers give: Reece Conca+ Cam Shenton+ Jed Lamb+ N#61
Dongs give: Michael Rischitelli+ Danyle Pearce+ N#68
nrich to confirm
Confirm.
CONFIRMEDReasoning: This one was a bit closer, but just passes. Rischitelli and Pearce both had good years, but are both 30 next year and entering the later stages of their careers. Conca has good value being a defender who comfortably averaged 100+ when fit, after having an injury interrupted 2015. Shenton has some potential, as does Lamb, and there is the pick swap too which evens things out a little. Not a perfectly even trade in my opinion, but not too bad to be blocked.
When did Conca become a defender? Lol.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 25, 2015, 05:22:45 PM
When did Conca become a defender? Lol.
My mistake there, I read the list wrong when looking at player positions.
Still, even as a midfielder, Conca has shown when he is fit he can be a very solid scorer, and it doesn't change the trade much.
And with that our First Trade Period is officially at a close so I will lock this thread for now until we come back to trading after drafting has been completed.
The Trade Discussion thread will remain open for coaches to discuss any further trades if they wish.
Please note that the Official Draft Thread will hold the most up to date lists for the time being.
Okay, this thread is back open for business!
Our second trade period has now begun. Please remember that in this trade period, each team has 5 in and 5 out list movements, so this trade period is more about fixing your team up following DPP changes and getting things just how you want it for season 2016. A reminder that we use the same positions as SuperCoach. The one exception for list movements is the Gazelles, who have been given 10 in and 10 out movements at admin's discretion due to the inactivity of the previous coach of the side in the first trade period.
Remember that all trades in this period must be one for one, and for players on the same list, so a rookie for a rookie or a senior list player for another.
A date for the close of this trade period will be announced later, but it will likely be sometime in late February/early March before any official practice matches take place in the AFL.
So happy trading, and if there are any queries, just ask!
Bangladesh give: Sam Mitchell + Tim Mohr
Tibet give: Kieran Lovell + David Cuningham
Why not replace the current Sam Mitchell with the next Sam Mitchell?
tbag to confirm.
How can a 35 yo and a spud be fair for 2 young guns ? (Lovell is a jet)
Quote from: nostradamus on December 16, 2015, 09:54:09 PM
How can a 35 yo and a spud be fair for 2 young guns ? (Lovell is a jet)
You gotta be kidding? A guaranteed season of 120+ avg starter vs two guys who may never make there mark.
Quote from: Adamant on December 16, 2015, 09:29:21 PM
Bangladesh give: Sam Mitchell + Tim Mohr
Tibet give: Kieran Lovell + David Cuningham
Why not replace the current Sam Mitchell with the next Sam Mitchell?
tbag to confirm.
Confirm!
Because Mitch just keeps on going with no signs of slowing down, whilst we have recruited a number or young gun mids in recent years, waiting for Lovell to dominate the stars at Hawthorn is no longer necessary, but Mitchell helps us with a consistent scoring mid to complement the young superstars we already have
How you like dem apples ;)
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 16, 2015, 10:05:37 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on December 16, 2015, 09:54:09 PM
How can a 35 yo and a spud be fair for 2 young guns ? (Lovell is a jet)
You gotta be kidding? A guaranteed season of 120+ avg starter vs two guys who may never make there mark.
Nup, not kidding at all ............. always honest and speak my mind. I'd never trade 2 very good prospects for good scores from someone for what may only be one year.
Quote from: nostradamus on December 16, 2015, 10:13:21 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 16, 2015, 10:05:37 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on December 16, 2015, 09:54:09 PM
How can a 35 yo and a spud be fair for 2 young guns ? (Lovell is a jet)
You gotta be kidding? A guaranteed season of 120+ avg starter vs two guys who may never make there mark.
Nup, not kidding at all ............. always honest and speak my mind. I'd never trade 2 very good prospects for good scores from someone for what may only be one year.
One year is all we need ;) What's the use of having 12 potential midfield guns (Sound familiar :o ) When you have six and can get a legend for new "Potential" ;)
Llamas v Crabs, BRING IT!!
Young vs Scoring will never find proper middle ground. Bangladesh have a clear plan, and Tibet might feel like winning it next year. And the fact that we have two coaches wanting to reject it for polar opposite reasons is why it will pass ;)
Quote from: PowerBug on December 16, 2015, 11:30:32 PM
Young vs Scoring will never find proper middle ground. Bangladesh have a clear plan, and Tibet might feel like winning it next year. And the fact that we have two coaches wanting to reject it for polar opposite reasons is why it will pass ;)
Quote from: PowerBug on December 16, 2015, 11:30:32 PM
Young vs Scoring will never find proper middle ground. Bangladesh have a clear plan, and Tibet might feel like winning it next year. And the fact that we have two coaches wanting to reject it for polar opposite reasons is why it will pass ;)
Who are the 2 wanting to reject it?
From my reading of it JB was arguing against my point of view (as he's totally entitled to), but nowhere did l see that he wanted the trade rejected.
Nice competitive trade here with two first round draft picks going for an old gun
Tibetan Llamas: Liam Duggan + Dom Sheed
for
Turkish Gazelles: Jobe Watson + Brady Gray
Quote from: tbagrocks on December 23, 2015, 05:52:20 PM
Nice competitive trade here with two first round draft picks going for an old gun
Tibetan Llamas: Liam Duggan + Dom Sheed
for
Turkish Gazelles: Jobe Watson + Brady Gray
Confirm, I love Jobe but i don't see the Gazelles being a top contender within his years left. Both Sheed and Duggan have a lot of potential and will hopefully help with my rebuild :P
Quote from: iZander on December 23, 2015, 05:55:50 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on December 23, 2015, 05:52:20 PM
Nice competitive trade here with two first round draft picks going for an old gun
Tibetan Llamas: Liam Duggan + Dom Sheed
for
Turkish Gazelles: Jobe Watson + Brady Gray
Confirm, I love Jobe but i don't see the Gazelles being a top contender within his years left. Both Sheed and Duggan have a lot of potential and will hopefully help with my rebuild :P
Massive win for Zander no matter how you look at it
#reallyconfusedbytbagslast2trades
Pretty clearly he is trying to win more games next year, that is what he is doing...
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 23, 2015, 09:09:02 PM
Pretty clearly he is trying to win more games next year, that is what he is doing...
Blind Freddy can see that mate .......... at what long term cost though :-\
Quote from: nostradamus on December 23, 2015, 11:13:10 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 23, 2015, 09:09:02 PM
Pretty clearly he is trying to win more games next year, that is what he is doing...
Blind Freddy can see that mate .......... at what long term cost though :-\
Short term gain = Long term pain?
Quote from: nas on December 24, 2015, 07:17:56 AM
Quote from: nostradamus on December 23, 2015, 11:13:10 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 23, 2015, 09:09:02 PM
Pretty clearly he is trying to win more games next year, that is what he is doing...
Blind Freddy can see that mate .......... at what long term cost though :-\
Short term gain = Long term pain?
Midfield still has Jackson Macrae, Matthew Kennedy, Angus Brayshaw, Jack Viney, Clay Smith, Jarryd Lyons, Lachie Neale and Jack Trengove. Plus Douglas, Mitchell and Watson
Maybe I should be the one who's confused ??? ............... ;)
Quote from: tbagrocks on December 16, 2015, 10:05:53 PM
Quote from: Adamant on December 16, 2015, 09:29:21 PM
Bangladesh give: Sam Mitchell + Tim Mohr
Tibet give: Kieran Lovell + David Cuningham
Why not replace the current Sam Mitchell with the next Sam Mitchell?
tbag to confirm.
Confirm!
Because Mitch just keeps on going with no signs of slowing down, whilst we have recruited a number or young gun mids in recent years, waiting for Lovell to dominate the stars at Hawthorn is no longer necessary, but Mitchell helps us with a consistent scoring mid to complement the young superstars we already have
How you like dem apples ;)
APPROVEDReasoning: An unproven 2nd round draft pick and a 3rd round pick for a proven premo with only a year or two left + Mohr is a slight win to Bangladesh but not unreasonable.
Quote from: iZander on December 23, 2015, 05:55:50 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on December 23, 2015, 05:52:20 PM
Nice competitive trade here with two first round draft picks going for an old gun
Tibetan Llamas: Liam Duggan + Dom Sheed
for
Turkish Gazelles: Jobe Watson + Brady Gray
Confirm, I love Jobe but i don't see the Gazelles being a top contender within his years left. Both Sheed and Duggan have a lot of potential and will hopefully help with my rebuild :P
APPROVEDReasoning: Again, it's clear that Tibet are trading hard to be competitive next year. Jobe still has two years left on his contract and could easily get an extension on top of that. He's a proven premo and worth more than Sheed by himself, Duggan is worth more than Gray so pushes it closer towards evening out. While i still think this is a win to Turkey, I don't think it's enough to block, and it doesn't hurt the competition as Tibet still have plenty of good kids.
Tibet gives: Matthew Kennedy (First round draft pick)
for
Turkey gives: Easton Wood
Thinking Kennedy though a junior ball magnet, we need the experience that Wood showed last year in defence!
Quote from: tbagrocks on January 02, 2016, 10:35:28 PM
Tibet gives: Matthew Kennedy (First round draft pick)
for
Turkey gives: Easton Wood
Thinking Kennedy though a junior ball magnet, we need the experience that Wood showed last year in defence!
Toga can we trade with this bloke? :o
Quote from: tbagrocks on January 02, 2016, 10:35:28 PM
Tibet gives: Matthew Kennedy (First round draft pick)
for
Turkey gives: Easton Wood
Thinking Kennedy though a junior ball magnet, we need the experience that Wood showed last year in defence!
Confirm.
My defensive depth makes Wood expendable, I'm after some young talent and Kennedy is that.
UAE Trade: Daniel Rich & Eric Hipwood
Hong Kong Trade: Karl Amon & Jack Redpath
Nas to Confirm
Quote from: nrich102 on January 05, 2016, 03:32:57 PM
UAE Trade: Daniel Rich & Eric Hipwood
Hong Kong Trade: Karl Amon & Jack Redpath
Nas to Confirm
Confirm.
Apologies for the admin inactivity over the last couple of weeks, Ric and myself have both been abroad a bit and not able to have regular access to get onto FanFooty.
It seems we haven't missed too much though, and I'm sure everyone is happy to put up with a quiet Christmas/New Year period for the AXV.
We will have a discussion on the current pending trades, and our decisions will be up soon.
I hope everyone had a great Christmas and New Year!
I hope you guys had a nice break from it all and are ready for 2016 ;D
Quote from: tbagrocks on December 23, 2015, 05:52:20 PM
Nice competitive trade here with two first round draft picks going for an old gun
Tibetan Llamas: Liam Duggan + Dom Sheed
for
Turkish Gazelles: Jobe Watson + Brady Gray
This will hurt after 2days decision. :(
Quote from: nas on January 12, 2016, 09:30:43 AM
Quote from: tbagrocks on December 23, 2015, 05:52:20 PM
Nice competitive trade here with two first round draft picks going for an old gun
Tibetan Llamas: Liam Duggan + Dom Sheed
for
Turkish Gazelles: Jobe Watson + Brady Gray
This will hurt after 2days decision. :(
Did the same thing in EXV :-[
Oh shower :-\ that could hurt the top 4 ambition ...........
Quote from: nas on January 12, 2016, 09:30:43 AM
Quote from: tbagrocks on December 23, 2015, 05:52:20 PM
Nice competitive trade here with two first round draft picks going for an old gun
Tibetan Llamas: Liam Duggan + Dom Sheed
for
Turkish Gazelles: Jobe Watson + Brady Gray
This will hurt after 2days decision. :(
Wow.. That should probably be reversed :-\
No it shouldn't. That is just bad luck. Do we reverse St Kildas trade for Jake Carlisle too?
Quote from: PowerBug on January 12, 2016, 04:06:57 PM
No it shouldn't. That is just bad luck. Do we reverse St Kildas trade for Jake Carlisle too?
I'm not sure we have the power to do that :P
Quote from: nas on December 24, 2015, 07:17:56 AM
Quote from: nostradamus on December 23, 2015, 11:13:10 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 23, 2015, 09:09:02 PM
Pretty clearly he is trying to win more games next year, that is what he is doing...
Blind Freddy can see that mate .......... at what long term cost though :-\
Short term gain = Long term pain?
Short term
gain pain = Long term pain?
Hey lads just and update, BB and I have discussed the current trades and when he's back on next we'll update them.
Good to see there's a bit of discussion about the Essendon situation, and I do welcome it to keep coming to see what everyone in the competition thinks. If we could move that over to the discussion thread though, that would keep this thread a little less cluttered.
Here's our trade approval, after a lengthy discussion between myself and Ric, and we felt we had a few unfair trades here.
Quote from: iZander on January 02, 2016, 10:45:54 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on January 02, 2016, 10:35:28 PM
Tibet gives: Matthew Kennedy (First round draft pick)
for
Turkey gives: Easton Wood
Thinking Kennedy though a junior ball magnet, we need the experience that Wood showed last year in defence!
Confirm.
My defensive depth makes Wood expendable, I'm after some young talent and Kennedy is that.
BLOCKEDReasoning: Kennedy can be seen Pick 7, which he was just taken at in our National Draft. Wood is a 95 average defender in his best year, and was in the 70-80 mark in the years before that. We do not feel that this is worth pick 7, especially someone as highly rated as Kennedy.
Quote from: nas on January 05, 2016, 04:59:57 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on January 05, 2016, 03:32:57 PM
UAE Trade: Daniel Rich & Eric Hipwood
Hong Kong Trade: Karl Amon & Jack Redpath
Nas to Confirm
Confirm.
BLOCKEDReasoning: This seemed to be a bit of a strange trade for us. Amon has shown a bit of potenital, but is still a new player and quite a low scorer, averaging around the 60 mark from only 7 games. Rich, while not a true premium, is a consistent defender, averaging 90+ for years now and is definitely worth a lot more than Amon.
Hipwood was taken at pick 14 in the draft and looks a good prospect. Redpath improved in the lats year, but still isn't worth a late first round pick.
Therefore, this trade was deemed too uneven to pass.
UAE Tigers Trade: Eric Hipwood.
for
Hong Kong Trade: Karl Amon.
nrich to confirm.
Couple of Youngster trading between teams with Hipwood being a good chance to debut, & K Amon a chance to add to his 7 games.
Quote from: nas on January 14, 2016, 10:23:44 PM
UAE Tigers Trade: Eric Hipwood.
for
Hong Kong Trade: Karl Amon.
nrich to confirm.
Couple of Youngster trading between teams with Hipwood being a good chance to debut, & K Amon a chance to add to his 7 games.
Confirm.
Bangladesh give: Lewis Taylor + Sam Mayes + Mitch Hallahan
Hong Kong give: Jack Redden + Jarrod Pickett + Daniel Howe
Reasoning: Giving up some quality youth here in order to land a more proven midfielder in Reddo.
Nrich to confirm.
Quote from: Adamant on January 15, 2016, 05:16:30 PM
Bangladesh give: Lewis Taylor + Sam Mayes + Mitch Hallahan
Hong Kong give: Jack Redden + Jarrod Pickett + Daniel Howe
Reasoning: Giving up some quality youth here in order to land a more proven midfielder in Reddo.
Nrich to confirm.
Confirm. Ada wants a more proven player and I'm short on depth, so I et some young guns and he gets the traitor. Lions players as well :-*
Bangladesh give: Cyril Rioli + Jimmy Toumpas
UAE give: David Zaharakis + Shaun Grigg
Reasoning: Looking to bolster my midfield but have to do it at the expense of my best forward and Toumpas who could be handy at a new club. UAE had plenty of midfield depth and wanted to cash it in for a starting forward which they have got in Cyril.
nas to confirm.
Quote from: Adamant on January 18, 2016, 05:30:02 PM
Bangladesh give: Cyril Rioli + Jimmy Toumpas
UAE give: David Zaharakis + Shaun Grigg
Reasoning: Looking to bolster my midfield but have to do it at the expense of my best forward and Toumpas who could be handy at a new club. UAE had plenty of midfield depth and wanted to cash it in for a starting forward which they have got in Cyril.
nas to confirm.
Confirm.
Ada has more depth in midfield, & with Cyril adds to the Tigers Forwards as well. Toumpas is the unknown but new club could be the turning point.
Quote from: nas on January 12, 2016, 09:30:43 AM
Quote from: tbagrocks on December 23, 2015, 05:52:20 PM
Nice competitive trade here with two first round draft picks going for an old gun
Tibetan Llamas: Liam Duggan + Dom Sheed
for
Turkish Gazelles: Jobe Watson + Brady Gray
This will hurt after 2days decision. :(
I already thought this was a horror trade but it's now looking like the worst trade ever. Two future guns already showing great signs for Brady Grey who'll be lucky to play a game this season. Pretty sure Watson will retire after this verdict.
Bangladesh give: Shaun Grigg
Mongolia give: Charlie Dixon
Reasoning: Was looking for another forward to replace Cyril, hoping Dixon will go alright at the Power!
Toga/fanTCfool to confirm.
Quote from: Adamant on January 21, 2016, 11:50:07 PM
Bangladesh give: Shaun Grigg
Mongolia give: Charlie Dixon
Reasoning: Was looking for another forward to replace Cyril, hoping Dixon will go alright at the Power!
Toga/fanTCfool to confirm.
Confirmed!
With Montagna gaining Forward status, we can afford to give up Dixon from the Forward line. Grigg effectively replaces Montagna in the Midfield.
Some injury clouds surrounding Dixon were a little concerning, and we felt safer with Grigg than Dixon, despite the potential to put up some big scores.
Talking to BB about these trades guys so we should have an update later today/tomorrow for you
Quote from: nrich102 on January 14, 2016, 11:57:48 PM
Quote from: nas on January 14, 2016, 10:23:44 PM
UAE Tigers Trade: Eric Hipwood.
for
Hong Kong Trade: Karl Amon.
nrich to confirm.
Couple of Youngster trading between teams with Hipwood being a good chance to debut, & K Amon a chance to add to his 7 games.
Confirm.
BLOCKEDReasoning: Amon was a pick 58 in the rookie draft a few years back, and has only played a handful of games in the last year for an average of around 60. In our view he definitely isn't worth of a late first round pick.
Quote from: nrich102 on January 15, 2016, 05:44:10 PM
Quote from: Adamant on January 15, 2016, 05:16:30 PM
Bangladesh give: Lewis Taylor + Sam Mayes + Mitch Hallahan
Hong Kong give: Jack Redden + Jarrod Pickett + Daniel Howe
Reasoning: Giving up some quality youth here in order to land a more proven midfielder in Reddo.
Nrich to confirm.
Confirm. Ada wants a more proven player and I'm short on depth, so I et some young guns and he gets the traitor. Lions players as well :-*
APPROVEDReasoning: Redden is a high scoring mid, averaging a tick under 130, and being a high tackling player can be a real premium in this game, making his worth above Taylor, who is a consistent forward. Mayes and Hallahan are both worth quite a bit more than Pickett and Howe, making this trade even enough to pass.
Quote from: nas on January 18, 2016, 06:22:18 PM
Quote from: Adamant on January 18, 2016, 05:30:02 PM
Bangladesh give: Cyril Rioli + Jimmy Toumpas
UAE give: David Zaharakis + Shaun Grigg
Reasoning: Looking to bolster my midfield but have to do it at the expense of my best forward and Toumpas who could be handy at a new club. UAE had plenty of midfield depth and wanted to cash it in for a starting forward which they have got in Cyril.
nas to confirm.
Confirm.
Ada has more depth in midfield, & with Cyril adds to the Tigers Forwards as well. Toumpas is the unknown but new club could be the turning point.
APPROVEDReasoning: Zaharakis and Rioli have similar scoring power, but with Rioli being a forward, and seemingly over some of his injury worries, so is worth more. Grigg is a proven midfielder, and while Toumpas has potential at a new club, the gap between these two makes this trade fairly even.
Quote from: fanTCfool on January 22, 2016, 12:12:33 AM
Quote from: Adamant on January 21, 2016, 11:50:07 PM
Bangladesh give: Shaun Grigg
Mongolia give: Charlie Dixon
Reasoning: Was looking for another forward to replace Cyril, hoping Dixon will go alright at the Power!
Toga/fanTCfool to confirm.
Confirmed!
With Montagna gaining Forward status, we can afford to give up Dixon from the Forward line. Grigg effectively replaces Montagna in the Midfield.
Some injury clouds surrounding Dixon were a little concerning, and we felt safer with Grigg than Dixon, despite the potential to put up some big scores.
APPROVEDReasoning: Two players with good scoring potential and outputs here. Dixon has a higher ceiling and is a forward, yet does have his injury concerns, so this trade can pass.
Far out, looks like I'll be sticking with Amon.
Quick and easy trade here between the Dolphins and the HeadHunters
Taiwan gives: Tom Campbell + Kayne Turner
Papua New Guinea gives: Andrew Phillips + Gorringe
*Note both Turner and Gorringe are on rookie lists so this should work out.
Rusty to confirm
My reasoning is pretty straightforward. This deal gives me the whole Carlton ruckline with Kreuzer, Wood, Phillips and Gorringe. So I'm covered if Kreuzer goes down.
I'm giving back Campbell as PNG are losing two rucks and although I really rate Turner I have a lot of other forwards so I'm happy to give him up for some ruck security.
Quote from: Memphistopheles on January 28, 2016, 01:00:29 AM
Quick and easy trade here between the Dolphins and the HeadHunters
Taiwan gives: Tom Campbell + Kayne Turner
Papua New Guinea gives: Andrew Phillips + Gorringe
*Note both Turner and Gorringe are on rookie lists so this should work out.
Rusty to confirm
My reasoning is pretty straightforward. This deal gives me the whole Carlton ruckline with Kreuzer, Wood, Phillips and Gorringe. So I'm covered if Kreuzer goes down.
I'm giving back Campbell as PNG are losing two rucks and although I really rate Turner I have a lot of other forwards so I'm happy to give him up for some ruck security.
Confirmed
Really like Turner as a prospect and by getting Campbell in the deal we still keep some depth to our rucks whilst giving up Phillips and Gorringe.
Trade Announcement
Bangkok Crabs give Joe Daniher
UAE Tigers give Jarrod Harbrow
With Hibberd being out for a year we were badly in need of a replacement in defence, Harbrow fits the bill perfectly. While we didn't really want to lose Daniher and are scared of his potential, he was someone we could mange without at this stage.
nas to confirm
Quote from: nostradamus on January 29, 2016, 10:07:57 PM
Trade Announcement
Bangkok Crabs give Joe Daniher
UAE Tigers give Jarrod Harbrow
With Hibberd being out for a year we were badly in need of a replacement in defence, Harbrow fits the bill perfectly. While we didn't really want to lose Daniher and are scared of his potential, he was someone we could mange without at this stage.
nas to confirm
Confirm
Daniher adds more depth to our Forward line.
Just wondering if these last few trades have been missed..........and what the time-frame on them being processed might be?
Quote from: nostradamus on February 10, 2016, 05:28:12 PM
Just wondering if these last few trades have been missed..........and what the time-frame on them being processed might be?
Ah sorry man, looks like we've missed these with a few major changes being talked about at the moment. We should have an update for you by the weekend
Quote from: nostradamus on February 10, 2016, 05:28:12 PM
Just wondering if these last few trades have been missed..........and what the time-frame on them being processed might be?
Sorry mate, they got a little lost in everything that's been going on in the competition over the last couple of weeks, I'll get onto it shortly.
Quote from: Rusty00 on January 28, 2016, 08:40:11 AM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on January 28, 2016, 01:00:29 AM
Quick and easy trade here between the Dolphins and the HeadHunters
Taiwan gives: Tom Campbell + Kayne Turner
Papua New Guinea gives: Andrew Phillips + Gorringe
*Note both Turner and Gorringe are on rookie lists so this should work out.
Rusty to confirm
My reasoning is pretty straightforward. This deal gives me the whole Carlton ruckline with Kreuzer, Wood, Phillips and Gorringe. So I'm covered if Kreuzer goes down.
I'm giving back Campbell as PNG are losing two rucks and although I really rate Turner I have a lot of other forwards so I'm happy to give him up for some ruck security.
Confirmed
Really like Turner as a prospect and by getting Campbell in the deal we still keep some depth to our rucks whilst giving up Phillips and Gorringe.
APPROVEDReasoning: Fairly straightforward trade here with some fringe/young talent being traded to help fill in some positional needs.
Quote from: nas on January 29, 2016, 10:12:32 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on January 29, 2016, 10:07:57 PM
Trade Announcement
Bangkok Crabs give Joe Daniher
UAE Tigers give Jarrod Harbrow
With Hibberd being out for a year we were badly in need of a replacement in defence, Harbrow fits the bill perfectly. While we didn't really want to lose Daniher and are scared of his potential, he was someone we could mange without at this stage.
nas to confirm
Confirm
Daniher adds more depth to our Forward line.
APPROVEDReasoning: Harbrow has a higher scoring output of about 10-15 points over the last season, but is much the senior to Daniher, who should improve as he develops as a key forward.
cheers BB 8)
Trade period will end Tuesday the 16th at 12am AEST
That's tonight :o
Still plenty of time for Rocky to make his way over to KL ;D
PNG Head Hunters give Lee Spurr + Zach Clarke
Kathmandu Eskimoes give Lewis Jetta + Dan Currie
Spurr was a tough one to give up as he's been pretty reliable in defence for us, but have some depth to cover him now and we could use some midfield reinforcements. Also switching back-up rucks to align with the AFL teams of our respective No.1 rucks.
PB to confirm.
Aaaaand confirm :) With Ryder out Clarke is beter backup for Sandi than what Currie is. Spurr helps the defence (How is Kelly not a back come on :P) and even though I like Jetta, he's my 9th mid so willing to part with that.
Quote from: Rusty00 on February 15, 2016, 01:27:59 PM
PNG Head Hunters give Lee Spurr + Zach Clarke
Kathmandu Eskimoes give Lewis Jetta + Dan Currie
Spurr was a tough one to give up as he's been pretty reliable in defence for us, but have some depth to cover him now and we could use some midfield reinforcements. Also switching back-up rucks to align with the AFL teams of our respective No.1 rucks.
PB to confirm.
Approved