For all the trades, delistings, retirements, other stuff and doging about nobody wanting to come to a club on the up. Treloar pls. :P
Now for all the draft and pre-season stuff!
Yes Treloar for sure but Yarran I don't want to hear a word about this under achieving sook coming to the club unless we can pick him up in draft for nothing , any draft picks wasted on this guy is going backwards I'm sure others will disagree :P
Yarran's still contracted so we'll have to trade for him.
Treloar would be nice and it seems we're in the box seat if the Pies don't get him.
We're also apparently interested in Kreuzer, though I'm not his biggest fan so I'm not that keen on him.
Yarran playing poor in a poor club. He is a jet when they are playing well and I think he would slot in nicely and give us a bit of pace. Wouldn't give up a first rounder for him though.
Kreuz is a gun but massive gamble with his injury history.
Treloar is the must get. Would also be keen on Bennell.
Looks as though Treloar has nominated the filth as his club of choice. We will probably miss out.
I think Yarran would do well in a good side as said above. A forward line of Riewoldt, Vickery, Deledio, Lennon, Edwards & Yarran would be a headache for opposition coaches, with Dusty spending time there aswell.
Not a fan of Kreuzer, we don't need him.
I read we are also looking at Jack Redden.
Could have at least waited till the end of the week for this thread :p
Quote from: Ziplock on September 09, 2015, 12:09:32 PM
Could have at least waited till the end of the week for this thread :p
Meh.
The Norf fans already made this joke in their board. :P
Couldn't care less tbh, nothing wrong with a creating a thread to house discussion. It can sit idle for a couple of weeks. 8)
Quote from: BigMac_93 on September 08, 2015, 06:40:33 PM
Looks as though Treloar has nominated the filth as his club of choice. We will probably miss out.
I think Yarran would do well in a good side as said above. A forward line of Riewoldt, Vickery, Deledio, Lennon, Edwards & Yarran would be a headache for opposition coaches, with Dusty spending time there aswell.
Not a fan of Kreuzer, we don't need him.
I read we are also looking at Jack Redden.
Maric is 30 next year, Hampson is a gap filler but will never be a number 1 ruckman and Ivan Soldo is the only other ruckman on our list who doesn't fill me with a huge amount of confidence.
Only thing that puts me off Kreuzer is his body and the deal that would be required to get him.
Think we're better off getting mid with our money
We're looking at Aish now.
Sounds like we're quite keen on Yarran now, I'd expect him to join us at this rate.
Reports on twitter about a knee injury at training. Early suggestions were Cotchin but sounds like it was Chris Knights
Quote from: Ricochet on September 10, 2015, 12:47:12 PM
Reports on twitter about a knee injury at training. Early suggestions were Cotchin but sounds like it was Chris Knights
I'd be shattered either way.
If it is Knights, that's so unlucky. He's just retired and can't even train/play out his last few weeks with the club. Life isn't fair.
Yeh confirmed as Knights, poor bloke
First order of business tomorrow morning.
Get on the phone.
Make an offer to an A grade player that they can't refuse (Treloar or Bennell)
Get Chris Yarran
Get a specialised tackling coach (we are by far the worst in the league in this area)
And while you're at it, go kidnap Eddie Betts because we are desperate for a small forward
Need another A-grade midfielder (Treloar, Bennell, Redden) or take a punt on an Aish type.
Need a small forward - look at someone like Matera from the Gold Coast.
Quote from: Toga on September 13, 2015, 11:40:13 PM
Need another A-grade midfielder (Treloar, Bennell, Redden) or take a punt on an Aish type.
Need a small forward - look at someone like Matera from the Gold Coast.
I'm not interested in Aish in the slightest. We need someone ready made imo.
Would definitely take Matera.
Heard we've been looking at Travis Colyer.
I thought they signed him up already but could be wrong
The disappointing thing for me is we desperately need a Treloar or Danger quality player but it is not going to happen because once again we will have no top end draft pick and the only players worth any currency are our guns which is robbing peter to pay paul so looks like we will end up with one of the most under achieving players in the comp Yarran which will only help us when he can be bothered making an effort
You guys need Sj
Someone who has the experience of winning. Waite NDS and Higgins have been huge ins for us.
Danger is a Free Agent so you could pick him up for nothing.
Quote from: Holz on September 14, 2015, 09:17:39 AM
You guys need Sj
Someone who has the experience of winning. Waite NDS and Higgins have been huge ins for us.
Danger is a Free Agent so you could pick him up for nothing.
You are right Holz but the offloading all there players at the Cats says to me if Danger leaves the Crows there is only one place he is heading was using him more as quality of player we need so unless there is another gun free agent up for grabs it looks like another slim year for us Aish , Bennell will command higher draft picks than we have and Treloar looks set for the pies we will end with a pick around 14 or 15 maybe after compensation picks so it's hard to see us landing any quality with that unless we throw in a good player as well
There's trading of future picks now anyhow so it makes our ladder position not as important regarding trading picks.
Quote from: Toga on September 14, 2015, 09:57:12 AM
There's trading of future picks now anyhow so it makes our ladder position not as important regarding trading picks.
I think I remember reading something that suggested we would give our first round pick this year and next for Treloar if it came to that whereas the Pies weren't keen to do that and GWS might be keen on the picks.
Let's just hope the Pies do us a favour and play hardball for the deal to fall through >:D
Marty White the only player of note that has left us in recent times which includes traded players. Can't remember the last time we traded a player? Maybe it's time to start looking at that if we want to secure a big name. Players like Conca, Griffiths, Grigg have currency and while I wouldn't necessarily want to see them traded if throwing one of them in as well as draft picks means we can secure someone I'd be happy to see it happen.
Should trade someone to get a top 8 pick and get Rhys Mathieson
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on September 14, 2015, 02:41:57 PM
Should trade someone to get a top 8 pick and get Rhys Mathieson
I'd expect Clayton Oliver to be available around our pick, he'd be perfect.
Hang on I always forget this but is our pick based on our finals performance or our ladder position?
finals Crunchtacular
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on September 14, 2015, 03:12:13 PM
Hang on I always forget this but is our pick based on our finals performance or our ladder position?
Pretty sure it's finals.
Freo had the pick after us last year in the draft even though they finished 4th but because they went out in straight sets.
so pick 12 I think
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on September 14, 2015, 03:22:28 PM
so pick 12 I think
That could change depending on compensation picks etc
Your first born should be given up to lure Stef Martin back to Melbourne. I would be giving draft picks, future draft picks and even a player to get the job done. Don't know if the tigers have any young Queenslanders on their list, so if it takes a Lennon or a Lambert that's what I'd be doing.
I recon we can still get Treloar, Pies are often hard to deal with at the trade table (e.g beams last year). If we offer GWS a better deal than the pies do, it can happen. Also it was reportedly a close call for Treloar between us and Collingwood, so I don't think he would be too unhappy at Richmond.
Another ruckman to support Maric would be great. Stefan Martin, Leuenberger and Kreuzer are all gettable this trade period. Maybe Hampson could be exchanged, I don't mind him as a player, but he is too good to be playing VFL every week.
Might not be true but I heard our interest in Aish has cooled which disappoints me. He is a top 10 draft pick who won a premiership at SANFL level while still a junior. He can play.
Been thinking about the Tigers, and reckon ( although different scenarios ), your like us, Port, from 2001 to 2003. We played great in the regular season, but fell short in finals. 2004 came along and things went our way. It's tough right now, but I believe you're on the right path. You honestly just gotta stick fat, the rewards will come
Quote from: Dudge on September 14, 2015, 10:04:46 PM
Been thinking about the Tigers, and reckon ( although different scenarios ), your like us, Port, from 2001 to 2003. We played great in the regular season, but fell short in finals. 2004 came along and things went our way. It's tough right now, but I believe you're on the right path. You honestly just gotta stick fat, the rewards will come
West Coast was the same weren't they then won a flag.
Robbo's all over it.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/damien-hardwick-had-a-right-to-be-angry-after-richmonds-loss-to-north-melbourne-says-jack-riewoldt/story-fnp04d70-1227526863587
Newman, Foley, Knights and Petterd all retiring, joined by Arnot and McDonough who have been delisted.
I'm a bit sad that McDonough is being delisted always thought he had something that we didn't really get to see :'(
Quote from: Toga on September 15, 2015, 04:27:52 PM
Newman, Foley, Knights and Petterd all retiring, joined by Arnot and McDonough who have been delisted.
I'm a bit sad that McDonough is being delisted always thought he had something that we didn't really get to see :'(
Both weren't utilised right from day one, that was half the problem.
Arnot, more so than McDonough, was kinda inconsistent in the VFL. There's probably a slight chance one or both gets picked up, but I'm sad to see them go.
Quote from: Nige on September 14, 2015, 02:45:04 PM
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on September 14, 2015, 02:41:57 PM
Should trade someone to get a top 8 pick and get Rhys Mathieson
I'd expect Clayton Oliver to be available around our pick, he'd be perfect.
One of these 3 will be good viable picks at your selection;
1. Dunkley
2. Tucker
3. Oliver
Madonna :'(
Surely he gets picked up somewhere else
Quote from: Pkbaldy on September 15, 2015, 04:32:16 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 14, 2015, 02:45:04 PM
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on September 14, 2015, 02:41:57 PM
Should trade someone to get a top 8 pick and get Rhys Mathieson
I'd expect Clayton Oliver to be available around our pick, he'd be perfect.
One of these 3 will be good viable picks at your selection;
1. Dunkley
2. Tucker
3. Oliver
As long as they are fast and ready to go.
SEN reckons we're looking at Jed Lamb.
Quote from: Nige on September 16, 2015, 06:02:55 PM
SEN reckons we're looking at Jed Lamb.
Are GWS looking for a packet of chips in exchange?
Sam McClure â€@sam_mcclure 1m1 minute ago
Carlton and Chris Yarran have mutually parted ways.
He's officially off to Richmond. Talk of Ben Lennon going the other way.
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 18, 2015, 06:51:10 PM
Sam McClure â€@sam_mcclure 1m1 minute ago
Carlton and Chris Yarran have mutually parted ways.
He's officially off to Richmond. Talk of Ben Lennon going the other way.
...
If Lennon leaves, I'm gonna be so upset.
Wow, I strongly believe Lennon will be a gun. Carlton would be stoked with that.
Lennon showed so much promise once he got games this season and it's basically been admitted that his omission for the final was a mistake but things don't sound good and that's frustrating.
I get we want and need Yarran, but surely the club isn't that desperate they'll let go of one of our most promising youngsters for him... :(
Quote from: elephants on September 18, 2015, 07:24:23 PM
Wow, I strongly believe Lennon will be a gun. Carlton would be stoked with that.
+1
Insane stuff if lose Lennon to get a lazy sook like Yarran :o
I don't believe we would do that tbh... :-X
Haha not a chance in hell we would trade Lennon for Yarran
yeah exactly quin. that's like us trading Billings for Carlisle. below zero chance of that happening
or sub zero. mortal kombat chance of that happening
We have also opened trade talks with Bennell, along with Fremantle according to the Herald Sun.
And yea I would hate for us to trade Lennon for Yarran.
Pretty sure we won't trade Lennon for Yaz. Confident Lennon will stay.
But think we'll grab Yaz, hope we go after Bennell.
There has also been a little talk of us being into CEY. Thoughts?
(http://cdndata.bigfooty.com/2015/09/174829_7e18d5e80cda3fa1d2201ac1cfb9b0c3.jpg)
Don't mind CEY, we could definitely do worse. He's definitely that kind of big-bodied contested ball winner that we need to compliment Miles in the middle.
Would be stoked if we could pick up Bennell and think guys like Jack Redden (contested ball & great tackler) and Yarran (speedy half backer) would go a long way in improving our deficiencies at the moment.
Don't think we'll be able to grab all three. So CEY instead of Redden would still be good. :)
We're apparently looking at Hartlett.
Quote from: Nige on September 22, 2015, 04:18:08 PM
We're apparently looking at Hartlett.
SEN said we will offer him a 5-6 year deal. Out of contract at the end of next year.
Well done to Riewoldt, Rance and Deledio on AA honours. Really happy for Jack in particular who played a selfless role so I'm glad he was rewarded for it
Kinda surprised Jack made it to be honest, had a brilliant year but didn't think he would be rewarded. Actually surprised Dusty didn't make it. Really happy Lids got in despite missing several games.
Quote from: Nige on September 22, 2015, 10:42:10 PM
Kinda surprised Jack made it to be honest, had a brilliant year but didn't think he would be rewarded. Actually surprised Dusty didn't make it. Really happy Lids got in despite missing several games.
Apart from Kennedy there were no real stand out key forwards but I think Jacks score involvements were 2nd to none in that position.
Dusty probably unlucky he was competing with Robbie Gray for the same role in the team and Gray was slightly better.
Jack definitely deserved his spot, 50 goals and #1 in score assists among key forwards. Congrats to the three Tigers! :)
Quote from: quinny88 on September 22, 2015, 10:54:24 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 22, 2015, 10:42:10 PM
Kinda surprised Jack made it to be honest, had a brilliant year but didn't think he would be rewarded. Actually surprised Dusty didn't make it. Really happy Lids got in despite missing several games.
Apart from Kennedy there were no real stand out key forwards but I think Jacks score involvements were 2nd to none in that position.
Dusty probably unlucky he was competing with Robbie Gray for the same role in the team and Gray was slightly better.
not sure why people keep bringing up the score assits
Tom Lynch 30 goal assists
Roughead 23
Jroo 22
Gunston 19
you could say Roughy could have easily got it over him, just didnt play enough games
+5.9 disposals -1.5 marks +0.8 tackles -0.2 goals
even lecras could be somewhat keyish forward 24 goal assits
+5.5 disposals -1.4 marks +0.4 tackles -0.3 goals
gunston was elite
+3.5 disposals +1 mark -0.3 tackles
basically that spot was up for grabs and any of lecras walker roughy gunston jroo could have got it.
*this does include finals, not sure how to exclude
LeCras isn't a key fwd. He's 1.82m tall. Even if he was a KPF his stats were, 43.26, 108 marks, 58 tackles, 24 GA, 19 1%ers.
Riewoldt 54.30, 144 marks, 52 tackles, 22 GA, 37 1%ers
Tom Lynch 32.16, 158 marks, 43 tackles, 30 GA 19 1%ers.
I don't think the stats for either of those players make a good enough case for their inclusion over Riewoldt, Holz. LeCras certainly could've challenged Cyril for his HFF spot if had made the squad.
Quote from: Toga on September 23, 2015, 11:51:54 AM
LeCras isn't a key fwd. He's 1.82m tall. Even if he was a KPF his stats were, 43.26, 108 marks, 58 tackles, 24 GA, 19 1%ers.
Riewoldt 54.30, 144 marks, 52 tackles, 22 GA, 37 1%ers
Tom Lynch 32.16, 158 marks, 43 tackles, 30 GA 19 1%ers.
I don't think the stats for either of those players make a good enough case for their inclusion over Riewoldt, Holz. LeCras certainly could've challenged Cyril for his HFF spot if had made the squad.
how about roughy?
almost 6 more trouches and 1 tackle a game more 0.3 more 1%ers aswell for only -0.2 goals a game. Jroo did mark it more but alot more touches and pressure with the tackles. the only thing against roughy is he missed some games.
again im not saying Jroo didnt deserve a spot but there was no clear 2nd forward at all.
Tom J Lynch if he played for a better team could have easily have made it
Disposals +1.7 marks +0.4 contested marks +0.7 tackles -0.7 one%ers +1.8 goals -0.2 goal assits -0.4
so yes less scoring involvements and tackles but far far better contested marking and one percenters. Lynch best contested mark in the comp
#cut4cameron
All this talk of Lennon for Yarran is not something I would be happy with! Damien Barrett agrees:
IF the Blues aren't realistic ... THEN ... they'll botch the Yarran trade. Need to realise that, as blisteringly good as the 24-year-old is, there won't be a draft pick much better than No.25 on offer.
Quote from: Toga on September 26, 2015, 12:12:49 PM
All this talk of Lennon for Yarran is not something I would be happy with! Damien Barrett agrees:
IF the Blues aren't realistic ... THEN ... they'll botch the Yarran trade. Need to realise that, as blisteringly good as the 24-year-old is, there won't be a draft pick much better than No.25 on offer.
I don't think the Tiges are even thinking about that trade but Toges blistering good are not 2 words I would use describing Yarran , how many coaches has he been under 3 ? and not one of them have been able to get a consistent effort out of this guy and when he was dropped once again this year the commentators were saying that attitude and effort in the 2's was nothing short of disgraceful and maybe he would be better off out of AFL all together, sure if he comes to us there will be a short honeymoon period with him but as soon as he gets his nose out of joint over coaches decisions regarding him he will revert to the sook that he is.
I would much rather we chase Bennell hard even though his rap sheet is a mile long at least when he is on the field he seems to try all the time unlike Mr Yarran .
Yarran's a good player who was wasted under Malthouse, he has played some seriously good footy in previous years.
Bennel had a meeting today at punt road with Dimma, Gale, Choco, Dusty, Cotch and Maric.
Would love to get him
Hopefully something good comes of it.
If we get him and Yarran I'll be happy. Think they are the outside pace and class that we need to go to the next level
Sign up Harley!
hands off! >:(
Quote from: Ricochet on September 30, 2015, 11:55:10 PM
hands off! >:(
Stick to trade targets in your usual range ie: Anthony, Gumbleton :P
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on October 01, 2015, 12:17:46 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 30, 2015, 11:55:10 PM
hands off! >:(
Stick to trade targets in your usual range ie: Anthony, Gumbleton :P
yeah Ric leave the poor tigers alone, you guys can be successful with later picks in the draft and taking good rookie pick ups. They need to rely on high draft picks and trading in players.
Sandi Rookie Draft
Fyfe 20
Neale 58
Barlow Rookie Draft
Mundy 19
Maric Traded
Cotchin 2
Deledio 1
Martin 3
Miles Traded
So we've pulled out of the race for Harley, apparently he didn't even show up for a scheduled medical test.
Sounds like he's more trouble than he's worth which is frustrating because he's a super talent.
Who the hell is even left for us to go after? :o
Quote from: quinny88 on October 04, 2015, 10:36:37 PM
So we've pulled out of the race for Harley, apparently he didn't even show up for a scheduled medical test.
Sounds like he's more trouble than he's worth which is frustrating because he's a super talent.
Who the hell is even left for us to go after? :o
I think the latest to come out was that he did have the medical, just pushed it back a few hours
Quote from: Ricochet on October 04, 2015, 11:43:38 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on October 04, 2015, 10:36:37 PM
So we've pulled out of the race for Harley, apparently he didn't even show up for a scheduled medical test.
Sounds like he's more trouble than he's worth which is frustrating because he's a super talent.
Who the hell is even left for us to go after? :o
I think the latest to come out was that he did have the medical, just pushed it back a few hours
Bennell’s manager Colin Young said he had pulled his player from the medical test given they were still working through contract details.
“I advised Harley not to attend the medical and the club is aware of that,†Young said.
“Harley had his birthday here in Melbourne and he enjoyed a social night with his mates.â€
Quote from: _wato on October 05, 2015, 12:53:43 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 04, 2015, 11:43:38 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on October 04, 2015, 10:36:37 PM
So we've pulled out of the race for Harley, apparently he didn't even show up for a scheduled medical test.
Sounds like he's more trouble than he's worth which is frustrating because he's a super talent.
Who the hell is even left for us to go after? :o
I think the latest to come out was that he did have the medical, just pushed it back a few hours
Bennell’s manager Colin Young said he had pulled his player from the medical test given they were still working through contract details.
“I advised Harley not to attend the medical and the club is aware of that,†Young said.
“Harley had his birthday here in Melbourne and he enjoyed a social night with his mates.â€
Well there you go. Saw on twitter that they pushed it back but anyways doesn't matter now they've confirmed they're not interested
Hmm sounds a bit suss to me
thinking that Freo made a massive $$$ offer
they could get him very cheap in terms of a trade now
No doubt Freo were in the race but he had come to Melbourne, toured the club, met the leadership group and coaching staff, went out for dinner with Dustin Martin and a few other players, was booked in for a medical test.. Then out of the blue Richmond turn around and say they aren't interested? I just think there's something more too this that will come out in the coming days
Quote from: quinny88 on October 04, 2015, 10:36:37 PM
So we've pulled out of the race for Harley, apparently he didn't even show up for a scheduled medical test.
Sounds like he's more trouble than he's worth which is frustrating because he's a super talent.
Who the hell is even left for us to go after? :o
Unless something comes out of left field Q it seems to be the same old Tiges at trade time , we just never seem to be in with a chance for the big name players :(
Seriously though, there's no doubting Harley has talent, but if he's gonna miss the medical then I don't want him and will settle for Yarran.
I think I know why he didn't rock up. Coked out of his mind and hungover....
Born: October 2, 1992 (age 23). Ding ding ding.
Quote from: shaker on October 05, 2015, 09:54:09 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on October 04, 2015, 10:36:37 PM
So we've pulled out of the race for Harley, apparently he didn't even show up for a scheduled medical test.
Sounds like he's more trouble than he's worth which is frustrating because he's a super talent.
Who the hell is even left for us to go after? :o
Unless something comes out of left field Q it seems to be the same old Tiges at trade time , we just never seem to be in with a chance for the big name players :(
Very frustrating. Last really big name player we got was probably Nathan Brown all those years ago.
We've done a good job in recent years of bringing in role players but I think it's time for some A grade quality to take us to the next level. Things just don't seem to fall in place for us though. Either that or were just not aggressive enough at getting deals done?
Quote from: quinny88 on October 05, 2015, 11:48:45 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 05, 2015, 09:54:09 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on October 04, 2015, 10:36:37 PM
So we've pulled out of the race for Harley, apparently he didn't even show up for a scheduled medical test.
Sounds like he's more trouble than he's worth which is frustrating because he's a super talent.
Who the hell is even left for us to go after? :o
Unless something comes out of left field Q it seems to be the same old Tiges at trade time , we just never seem to be in with a chance for the big name players :(
Very frustrating. Last really big name player we got was probably Nathan Brown all those years ago.
We've done a good job in recent years of bringing in role players but I think it's time for some A grade quality to take us to the next level. Things just don't seem to fall in place for us though. Either that or were just not aggressive enough at getting deals done?
Yeah I think the latter when Treloar moving was a definite we were mentioned as one of the teams in the running but all I heard about was the Pies offer and we did not seem to do a great deal just sat back and watched the Pies seal the deal
we needed somehow to get involved more , we come out last year and said we had a war chest and were going to target a big name player but so far that just seems like a lot of hot air , anyway we don't know what will happen it's early but not looking good and you are spot on we need an A grader to go to the next level a gun mid in my eyes after this years finals failure
Quote from: shaker on October 06, 2015, 09:53:20 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on October 05, 2015, 11:48:45 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 05, 2015, 09:54:09 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on October 04, 2015, 10:36:37 PM
So we've pulled out of the race for Harley, apparently he didn't even show up for a scheduled medical test.
Sounds like he's more trouble than he's worth which is frustrating because he's a super talent.
Who the hell is even left for us to go after? :o
Unless something comes out of left field Q it seems to be the same old Tiges at trade time , we just never seem to be in with a chance for the big name players :(
Very frustrating. Last really big name player we got was probably Nathan Brown all those years ago.
We've done a good job in recent years of bringing in role players but I think it's time for some A grade quality to take us to the next level. Things just don't seem to fall in place for us though. Either that or were just not aggressive enough at getting deals done?
Yeah I think the latter when Treloar moving was a definite we were mentioned as one of the teams in the running but all I heard about was the Pies offer and we did not seem to do a great deal just sat back and watched the Pies seal the deal
we needed somehow to get involved more , we come out last year and said we had a war chest and were going to target a big name player but so far that just seems like a lot of hot air , anyway we don't know what will happen it's early but not looking good and you are spot on we need an A grader to go to the next level a gun mid in my eyes after this years finals failure
I think we went after Treloar pretty hard. Heard an interview not long ago with Gale and he seemed pretty staggered that Treloar chose Collingwood after the offer we had made him. Agree with you though that we just don't seem to be able to get deals done.
I'm hoping there's a left field trade going on that the media hasn't got hold of. Last year it came out of the blue that we had gone after Armitage so I'm sure there's talks going on in the back ground that were not hearing about.. At least I hope there is ???
Btw, Just on Bennell. Apparently his birthday was the night before the medical, he then had his manager call in the morning to schedule it for later in the day and then showed up in a bit of a rough state from the night before.
It's picky but I don't mind us being strong on something like that. If he can't hold back on a big night to prove his commitment to the club and show up to a simple medical on time and in a decent state then he clearly doesn't want to be there.
Interesting to hear that we've gone after Dom Tyson. Very unlikely that anything will come of it but still good to see the club pursuing players even though we have missed out on others.
Quote from: quinny88 on October 06, 2015, 07:30:57 PM
I'm hoping there's a left field trade going on that the media hasn't got hold of. Last year it came out of the blue that we had gone after Armitage so I'm sure there's talks going on in the back ground that were not hearing about.. At least I hope there is ???
100% with you here and I have gut feeling this must be the case. There's no doubt the club knows we need more than just Yarran, who we may not even get, so they'd have to working on a play for someone of quality.
Matt Dea wins the VFL B&F.
Kamdyn wins best first year player.
Rance (59) leading Dusty (55) after Round 20.
Alex Rance wins the Jack Dyer medal for 2015!
Absolute superstar, thoroughly well deserved. 8) 8) 8)
Final tally/top 10:
Rance 1st (76 votes)
Dusty 2nd (60 votes)
Lids 3rd (54 votes)
Miles 4th (50 votes)
Jack 5th (48 votes)
Flossy and Cotch =6th
Bachar 8th
Grimesy and Grigga =9th
He now has a Jack Dyer Medal, 4 Francis Bourke medals and 2 All-Australian selections in his impressive and growing CV.
Congrats to Rancey, definitely well deserved after his outstanding season!
Ben Lennon's manager says that despite Richmond still having some work to do to re-sign Lennon, it is his view that he will be a Richmond player next year.
flowering hope so...
Lennon to Carlton 8)
Also interesting to hear that other clubs may come into the race for Adam Treloar as dealings between the Pies & Giants hit a snag... Call me hopeful :P
Apparently we're not one though, Carlton on the other hand...
Lennon is stretching this out to long if he is looking elsewhere maybe it's time the Tiges use him to try and secure someone maybe Aish ?
I'd much rather Lennon than Aish.
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I'd much rather Lennon than Aish.
Both to the Pies surely now. ;)
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I'd much rather Lennon than Aish.
Both to the Pies surely now. ;)
Ha ha they are gonna have a good side next year Danger , Treloar , Aish , Lennon did I forget anyone ?
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I'd much rather Lennon than Aish.
Both to the Pies surely now. ;)
Ha ha they are gonna have a good side next year Danger , Treloar , Aish , Lennon did I forget anyone ?
What's Maric up to?
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I'd much rather Lennon than Aish.
Both to the Pies surely now. ;)
Ha ha they are gonna have a good side next year Danger , Treloar , Aish , Lennon did I forget anyone ?
What's Maric up to?
Not much against the better ruckmen :P
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I'd much rather Lennon than Aish.
Both to the Pies surely now. ;)
Ha ha they are gonna have a good side next year Danger , Treloar , Aish , Lennon did I forget anyone ?
What's Maric up to?
Not much against the better ruckmen :P
Good point, then Dusty will have to be trade 5 ;)
http://www.themercury.com.au/afl-trades-2015-richmond-shows-interest-in-gws-midfielder-jacob-townsend/story-fnj3twbb-1227563687972
While it's somewhat disappointing, I would be happy to have Yarran and Townsend at the club, big fan of the latter. Similar player to Miles who has been a good get. Townsend's got the potential to be a Dan Jackson type for us. Another strong body in the contest that can get in there and win it.
I still reckon we have need a dangerous small forward but it doesn't seem like the club sees that as an issue. They must be happy having Sam Lloyd as a medium sized and Shane Edwards moving between the forward line and mdifield.
Quote from: Nige on October 10, 2015, 02:36:08 PM
http://www.themercury.com.au/afl-trades-2015-richmond-shows-interest-in-gws-midfielder-jacob-townsend/story-fnj3twbb-1227563687972
While it's somewhat disappointing, I would be happy to have Yarran and Townsend at the club, big fan of the latter. Similar player to Miles who has been a good get. Townsend's got the potential to be a Dan Jackson type for us. Another strong body in the contest that can get in there and win it.
I still reckon we have need a dangerous small forward but it doesn't seem like the club sees that as an issue. They must be happy having Sam Lloyd as a medium sized and Shane Edwards moving between the forward line and mdifield.
;)
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http://www.themercury.com.au/afl-trades-2015-richmond-shows-interest-in-gws-midfielder-jacob-townsend/story-fnj3twbb-1227563687972
While it's somewhat disappointing, I would be happy to have Yarran and Townsend at the club, big fan of the latter. Similar player to Miles who has been a good get. Townsend's got the potential to be a Dan Jackson type for us. Another strong body in the contest that can get in there and win it.
I still reckon we have need a dangerous small forward but it doesn't seem like the club sees that as an issue. They must be happy having Sam Lloyd as a medium sized and Shane Edwards moving between the forward line and mdifield.
;)
That's been my hope all along with the talk of recruiting Yarran, but in the article above Dan Richardson identifies the need for a rebounding defender and labels Yarran as that player.
I'm still hoping Jason Castagna can turn into that rebounding defender for us, showed some good signs in his first season. Maybe if he grows into that role and we do get Yarran then Yarran will be moved forward.
If Yarran and Townsend are the best we can hope to get that would make for a pretty disappointing trade period , I think I would be hoping some of our young guys could take the next step up than relying on those 2
Isn't Townsend just another THunt type?
Townsend is basically a less good version of JZ. Hunt is just absolute shower.
I can see the JZ comparison .. agree with the less good version
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 10, 2015, 03:55:25 PM
I can see the JZ comparison .. agree with the less good version
Do you guys think that you might actually give up Lennon for Yarran? There is lots of speculation around it and the only reason I see that it could happen is because you already have Riewoldt, Vickery and Griffith and don't really have a Yarran type. Would you guys be happy with that?
I doubt it. It sounds that Lennon's closer to getting a new contract by the day. He got plenty of opportunities in the second half of the year and played really well. We need to retain him and we should.
The club will probably try to use a second rounder, or at worst our 2016 first rounder on Yarran I reckon, the recruitment team should be stern enough to not get rid of our first rounder for him.
Jack, Tyrone and Griff are different players to Lennon. At the moment he's a half forward, but he'll end up in the midfield. He'll probably forge a career like Brett Deledio currently is and have stints forward because he's such a good mark and shot at goal and will only get better with age.
I'm sure 9/10 Richmond supporters would agree with that. There's no way we part with Lennon for Yarran and I'd be utterly disappointed and disgusted in the club if they did.
I rate Lennon a showerload, if he moved, I'd love him to swap that black for blue while keeping the yellow :p
Quote from: elephants on October 11, 2015, 04:31:58 PM
I rate Lennon a showerload, if he moved, I'd love him to swap that black for blue while keeping the yellow :p
That's right. A Pie. Black and white ;D
"Richmond will secure Giants midfielder Jacob Townsend in a trade this week," Michael Gleeson, The Age
Quote from: Donnie Brasco on October 13, 2015, 10:41:16 AM
"Richmond will secure Giants midfielder Jacob Townsend in a trade this week," Michael Gleeson, The Age
Don't really know too much about him. What kind of player is he?
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Quote from: Donnie Brasco on October 13, 2015, 10:41:16 AM
"Richmond will secure Giants midfielder Jacob Townsend in a trade this week," Michael Gleeson, The Age
Don't really know too much about him. What kind of player is he?
Inside midfielder/tagger from memory. I doubt highly he'll be anything amazing, but should be a decent role player if given a crack.
Well we all know how the last bloke that ended up on our list after being squeezed out by GWS turned out... ;)
Quote from: Toga on October 13, 2015, 03:44:22 PM
Well we all know how the last bloke that ended up on our list after being squeezed out by GWS turned out... ;)
Haha think Miles came with better wraps though :p
Me and Rico had a look at the previous few years prospectus and found this...
"Townsend rated poor in almost every category last year which included disposals, kick rating, metres gained, uncontested possessions, score assists and score involvements"
In one sense though, you're getting him at basement and the only way is up!
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Quote from: Toga on October 13, 2015, 03:44:22 PM
Well we all know how the last bloke that ended up on our list after being squeezed out by GWS turned out... ;)
Haha think Miles came with better wraps though :p
Me and Rico had a look at the previous few years prospectus and found this...
"Townsend rated poor in almost every category last year which included disposals, kick rating, metres gained, uncontested possessions, score assists and score involvements"
In one sense though, you're getting him at basement and the only way is up!
Or he'll clog the list for a year and they'll delist him... There is a downwards way :P
Just thinking back to last season's trade period.
We made offers and moves later in the period for guys like Trengove and Armitage and we didn't really hear much about those before they happened.
I'm thinking and hoping the club is in fact still on the hunt and making enquiries and offers for some relatively big names and is just doing their best to not let the media in on it.
The club isn't stupid and incompetent, they know what the fans want and what they as a club need to be even better for next season and beyond, so I don't think we're quite at the point where we can throw our hands up in air in outrage and be like "why the flower are we not landing big names with our war chest?" as for all we know, we may very well be in the hunt for guys like Treloar.
Apparently Carlton is trying to get Ben Lennon to walk to the pre season draft ...
Quote from: Money Shot on October 14, 2015, 09:07:18 AM
Apparently Carlton is trying to get Ben Lennon to walk to the pre season draft ...
Nah, flower right off with that Carlton, don't you even dare.
We've apparently conceded that we need a late first rounder as apparently that is what Yarran is worth so we're looking for one to on-trade to the Blues.
Also we've got interest in Andrew Moore, would be a decent pick up, younger brother of former Tige, Kelvin Moore.
This looking like a disaster of trade year for us possibly losing Lennon and having to use a 1st round draft pick for the laziest footballer in the league and picking up a C grade players from GWS I am hoping this is all not true :'(
Quote from: Nige on October 13, 2015, 10:01:33 PM
Just thinking back to last season's trade period.
We made offers and moves later in the period for guys like Trengove and Armitage and we didn't really hear much about those before they happened.
I'm thinking and hoping the club is in fact still on the hunt and making enquiries and offers for some relatively big names and is just doing their best to not let the media in on it.
The club isn't stupid and incompetent, they know what the fans want and what they as a club need to be even better for next season and beyond, so I don't think we're quite at the point where we can throw our hands up in air in outrage and be like "why the flower are we not landing big names with our war chest?" as for all we know, we may very well be in the hunt for guys like Treloar.
Spot on Nige. If we as supporters are this desperate for some big names then just imagine how the club feel about it. No doubt they are leaving no stone unturned
Pretty stoked that Redden apparently equals Yarran in terms of value :P
Apparently the Tiges and Carlton are getting closer to reaching an agreement on Yarran. The club recognises and respects Carlton's view that he is worth a first round pick, but believe our current pick is slightly too high.
Dan Richardson is confident Lennon will re-sign soon enough, and said that it's just a matter of reaching an agreement on $$ at the moment.
The club is also ready to pounce if talks between Collingwood and the Giants regarding Adam Treloar continue to break down. Both Treloar's management and the Giants are aware of the continued interest in him, although Richardson still expects the Magpies and Giants to reach a deal.
BEATLE HAS RE-SIGNED FOR TWO MORE YEARS! ;D ;D ;D
Lennon has re-signed! That's a big win for you he will be an absolute gun ...
Yarran for next years first round as the tigers should finish a little higher next year?
8) 8)
Never in doubt 8)
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Quote from: JROO8 on October 15, 2015, 07:18:27 PM
Never in doubt 8)
I know it's easy to say now but I never had any doubts he wouldn't re-sign at some point. congrats fellas
Good to see Lennon re-sign.
Herald Sun reporting a deal for Townsend should be completed tomorrow.
Jacob Townsend is a Tiger.
Him and Pick 120 for Pick 70. If we can sharpen his skills and improve his disposal, we'll have done well.
Very little risk in picking him up at such a cheap cost.
I think the recruiting staff have identified a hard-nut onballer as a real weakness since Shane Tuck left and Townsend looks to have a similar build. If he's anything like Tucky he will be a good pickup as he will at least be a bigger body around stoppages to free up Cotch if he continues to get hard tags into the near future.
Quote from: Toga on October 16, 2015, 05:29:55 PM
Very little risk in picking him up at such a cheap cost.
I think the recruiting staff have identified a hard-nut onballer as a real weakness since Shane Tuck left and Townsend looks to have a similar build. If he's anything like Tucky he will be a good pickup as he will at least be a bigger body around stoppages to free up Cotch if he continues to get hard tags into the near future.
Bit like Dan Jackson, who himself was to Tucky, so yeah. Quite happy getting him for next to nothing.
Use the pick 120 for Yarran? ;D
Apparently Carlton's priority is getting Yarran over to us.
I would assume that's because they know/believe they'll get a first rounder for him.
Quote from: Nige on October 17, 2015, 11:58:50 AM
Apparently Carlton's priority is getting Yarran over to us.
I would assume that's because they know/believe they'll get a first rounder for him.
Any idea of who we would get in the draft with pick 12 if we hung onto it?
Quote from: quinny88 on October 17, 2015, 12:14:53 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 17, 2015, 11:58:50 AM
Apparently Carlton's priority is getting Yarran over to us.
I would assume that's because they know/believe they'll get a first rounder for him.
Any idea of who we would get in the draft with pick 12 if we hung onto it?
A lot of phantom drafts seem to reckon we'll get someone like Callum Ah Chee. Younger brother of Brendon who is at Port. He's a small/half forward. He's quick, has good goal sense and uses the ball well. Just needs to better his endurance. Eventually should good be a wingman/half forward imo.
I'd like as to have a look at somebody like Darcy Tucker who is a mid/half back. He captained the North Ballarat Rebels and did pretty well at the Draft Combine.
Also a big fan of Clayton Oliver. Just a hard nut. Inside midfielder who loves the contested stuff and putting his head over it. He won the Morrish Medal (TAC Cup B&F) as well.
Another guy is Josh Dunkley. Coud go to the Swans as a father-son, but the word on the street is that he won't. Played for our VFL side during the year and did well for Vic Country in the second half of the season after coming back from injury.
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Quote from: quinny88 on October 17, 2015, 12:14:53 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 17, 2015, 11:58:50 AM
Apparently Carlton's priority is getting Yarran over to us.
I would assume that's because they know/believe they'll get a first rounder for him.
Any idea of who we would get in the draft with pick 12 if we hung onto it?
A lot of phantom drafts seem to reckon we'll get someone like Callum Ah Chee. Younger brother of Brendon who is at Port. He's a small/half forward. He's quick, has good goal sense and uses the ball well. Just needs to better his endurance. Eventually should good be a wingman/half forward imo.
I'd like as to have a look at somebody like Darcy Tucker who is a mid/half back. He captained the North Ballarat Rebels and did pretty well at the Draft Combine.
Also a big fan of Clayton Oliver. Just a hard nut. Inside midfielder who loves the contested stuff and putting his head over it. He won the Morrish Medal (TAC Cup B&F) as well.
Another guy is Josh Dunkley. Coud go to the Swans as a father-son, but the word on the street is that he won't. Played for our VFL side during the year and did well for Vic Country in the second half of the season after coming back from injury.
Cheers :)
What's happening with Yarran? Haven't heard a word about it since last week
Quote from: quinny88 on October 19, 2015, 08:28:57 PM
What's happening with Yarran? Haven't heard a word about it since last week
We're not giving up Pick 12, Blues want a first rounder. We don't have a late first rounder to give and hence talks have stalled for now it seems while both clubs sort it out.
Quote from: quinny88 on October 17, 2015, 12:14:53 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 17, 2015, 11:58:50 AM
Apparently Carlton's priority is getting Yarran over to us.
I would assume that's because they know/believe they'll get a first rounder for him.
Any idea of who we would get in the draft with pick 12 if we hung onto it?
Secretly hoping for Wayne Milera to slide, much more silky than Ah Chee, came 7th in the repeat sprints and is so composed with ball in hand. Have just gone over some SANFL footage and this kid is something special, can turn on a sixpence and can kick clutch goals in big games. Fingers & toes crossed he lasts until our pick.
Quote from: Bully on October 19, 2015, 09:30:18 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on October 17, 2015, 12:14:53 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 17, 2015, 11:58:50 AM
Apparently Carlton's priority is getting Yarran over to us.
I would assume that's because they know/believe they'll get a first rounder for him.
Any idea of who we would get in the draft with pick 12 if we hung onto it?
Secretly hoping for Wayne Milera to slide, much more silky than Ah Chee, came 7th in the repeat sprints and is so composed with ball in hand. Have just gone over some SANFL footage and this kid is something special, can turn on a sixpence and can kick clutch goals in big games. Fingers & toes crossed he lasts until our pick.
I currently have him pencilled in my super coach team for next season!
Still don't see how you will be able to get Yarran really!
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Quote from: Bully on October 19, 2015, 09:30:18 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on October 17, 2015, 12:14:53 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 17, 2015, 11:58:50 AM
Apparently Carlton's priority is getting Yarran over to us.
I would assume that's because they know/believe they'll get a first rounder for him.
Any idea of who we would get in the draft with pick 12 if we hung onto it?
Secretly hoping for Wayne Milera to slide, much more silky than Ah Chee, came 7th in the repeat sprints and is so composed with ball in hand. Have just gone over some SANFL footage and this kid is something special, can turn on a sixpence and can kick clutch goals in big games. Fingers & toes crossed he lasts until our pick.
I currently have him pencilled in my super coach team for next season!
Still don't see how you will be able to get Yarran really!
Don't really care about Yarran if it means keeping pick 12, can always get him next year as a free agent.
Tiges should offer 12 for 16 + Lachie Weller from Freo. Lets them get McCarthy and Richmond then has a pick in the right range for Yarran. Fills both needs of a classy outside player and speed half back.
Quote from: Toga on October 20, 2015, 12:40:03 AM
Tiges should offer 12 for 16 + Lachie Weller from Freo. Lets them get McCarthy and Richmond then has a pick in the right range for Yarran. Fills both needs of a classy outside player and speed half back.
Weller isn't going anywhere. Rather have Bennell out of FF then let him go
Quote from: Ricochet on October 20, 2015, 12:42:14 AM
Quote from: Toga on October 20, 2015, 12:40:03 AM
Tiges should offer 12 for 16 + Lachie Weller from Freo. Lets them get McCarthy and Richmond then has a pick in the right range for Yarran. Fills both needs of a classy outside player and speed half back.
Weller isn't going anywhere. Rather have Bennell out of FF then let him go
imo Weller is worth about pick 12 anyway
Quote from: Ricochet on October 20, 2015, 12:42:14 AM
Weller isn't going anywhere. Rather have Bennell out of FF then let him go
Problem is Freo did go and get Bennell though which makes competition for spots even higher. Rumours a couple of weeks ago that he was considering a move to Victoria, and you guys are looking for a higher pick to use for McCarthy...
Yeah cant see that happening. Basically pick 12 + pick 16 for pick 12.
Plus, Weller is a gun haha
Quote from: elephants on October 20, 2015, 02:37:10 PM
Yeah cant see that happening. Basically pick 12 + pick 16 for pick 12.
Plus, Weller is a gun haha
Hey, if Carlton can demand pick 12 for Yaz, we can make ridiculous demands too! :P
Newy's no longer at Tigerland, which means we'll never see Hello Newman again. :'(
He's taken a job at the Hawks as development coach.
Quote from: Nige on October 20, 2015, 03:07:13 PM
Newy's no longer at Tigerland, which means we'll never see Hello Newman again. :'(
He's taken a job at the Hawks as development coach.
Don't think I could stomach seeing him in a hawthorn polo :o
P.s what's this crap about Carlton not taking pick 19 for Yarran? They are dreaming
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Quote from: Nige on October 20, 2015, 03:07:13 PM
Newy's no longer at Tigerland, which means we'll never see Hello Newman again. :'(
He's taken a job at the Hawks as development coach.
Don't think I could stomach seeing him in a hawthorn polo :o
P.s what's this crap about Carlton not taking pick 19 for Yarran? They are dreaming
If they don't take that we should just wait until he's a free agent next year.
My guess is they will accept pick 19 in the end. They might just be testing our resolve to see if we cave in and offer pick 12. Hopefully we don't. I can't see him being at Carlton next year, given he requested a trade and they seem to have decided its best for him to leave. If he was to leave as a free agent in 2016 I would doubt they would get anything better than pick 19 for compensation.
Quote from: BigMac_93 on October 20, 2015, 08:09:23 PM
My guess is they will accept pick 19 in the end. They might just be testing our resolve to see if we cave in and offer pick 12. Hopefully we don't. I can't see him being at Carlton next year, given he requested a trade and they seem to have decided its best for him to leave. If he was to leave as a free agent in 2016 I would doubt they would get anything better than pick 19 for compensation.
Yeah I hope we're stubborn with this, he's not worth more than 19 imo.
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Quote from: BigMac_93 on October 20, 2015, 08:09:23 PM
My guess is they will accept pick 19 in the end. They might just be testing our resolve to see if we cave in and offer pick 12. Hopefully we don't. I can't see him being at Carlton next year, given he requested a trade and they seem to have decided its best for him to leave. If he was to leave as a free agent in 2016 I would doubt they would get anything better than pick 19 for compensation.
Yeah I hope we're stubborn with this, he's not worth more than 19 imo.
19 is overs for him i reckon
Of course he's more than #19, Yazz is a very good player, draft picks #10-20 take years to prove to be better than Yarren ::)
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 20, 2015, 08:29:25 PM
Of course he's more than #19, Yazz is a very good player, draft picks #10-20 take years to prove to be better than Yarren ::)
Well 99% of people I've heard on radio etc think he's worth around 20. Only Carlton supporters and you that have said otherwise haha
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Quote from: tbagrocks on October 20, 2015, 08:29:25 PM
Of course he's more than #19, Yazz is a very good player, draft picks #10-20 take years to prove to be better than Yarren ::)
Well 99% of people I've heard on radio etc think he's worth around 20. Only Carlton supporters and you that have said otherwise haha
As a carlton supporter I think 19 is about right.
maybe our 4th round for your 3rd round or something small and insignificant might get it done.
Still hoping for next years first 8)
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Quote from: quinny88 on October 20, 2015, 08:55:03 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 20, 2015, 08:29:25 PM
Of course he's more than #19, Yazz is a very good player, draft picks #10-20 take years to prove to be better than Yarren ::)
Well 99% of people I've heard on radio etc think he's worth around 20. Only Carlton supporters and you that have said otherwise haha
As a carlton supporter I think 19 is about right.
maybe our 4th round for your 3rd round or something small and insignificant might get it done.
Still hoping for next years first 8)
Pick 18 coz we will win the flag :P
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Quote from: Money Shot on October 20, 2015, 08:59:46 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on October 20, 2015, 08:55:03 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 20, 2015, 08:29:25 PM
Of course he's more than #19, Yazz is a very good player, draft picks #10-20 take years to prove to be better than Yarren ::)
Well 99% of people I've heard on radio etc think he's worth around 20. Only Carlton supporters and you that have said otherwise haha
As a carlton supporter I think 19 is about right.
maybe our 4th round for your 3rd round or something small and insignificant might get it done.
Still hoping for next years first 8)
Pick 18 coz we will win the flag :P
I'm sure if you guys were the confident you would've already given it up by now 8)
Agree Pick 19 is about what he's worth so I hope the club stands strong and doesn't pay overs for him.
Quote from: Toga on October 20, 2015, 09:29:31 PM
Agree Pick 19 is about what he's worth so I hope the club stands strong and doesn't pay overs for him.
The thing is, if you don't pay overs for him he will go to Hawks for pick 15 which Yarran would be happy with (I think)
Quote from: Toga on October 20, 2015, 02:16:03 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 20, 2015, 12:42:14 AM
Weller isn't going anywhere. Rather have Bennell out of FF then let him go
Problem is Freo did go and get Bennell though which makes competition for spots even higher. Rumours a couple of weeks ago that he was considering a move to Victoria, and you guys are looking for a higher pick to use for McCarthy...
Mzungu, de Boer, DPearce. I'll be looking at some Freo kids next year in SC/DT
Also they were pretty quick to come out and say Weller wants to stay
Still nothing re- Yarran to the Tiges we need to stick fat and not cough up a first round for this bloke this years or next 19 is well and truly enough for him if they don't except that so be it
Rumours are Yaz could sit out next year if he doesn't secure a trade to Richmond. Carlton will suck it up and take 19 eventually you would think.
Quote from: Toga on October 21, 2015, 06:06:51 PM
Rumours are Yaz could sit out next year if he doesn't secure a trade to Richmond. Carlton will suck it up and take 19 eventually you would think.
Saw something earlier saying Yaz said it wasn't true. You'd think he'll get to you boys anyway
Can't believe this has dragged on so long. Apparently we were meeting with Carlton this afternoon but still haven't heard how it went
Quote from: Ricochet on October 21, 2015, 06:08:04 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 21, 2015, 06:06:51 PM
Rumours are Yaz could sit out next year if he doesn't secure a trade to Richmond. Carlton will suck it up and take 19 eventually you would think.
Saw something earlier saying Yaz said it wasn't true. You'd think he'll get to you boys anyway
Yes don't think he could afford to miss a year I think would be about game over for him if he did
Yarran for 19 is a done deal boys. Good to see the club didn't cave and swap him for 12.
Beauty!
Yes good to see we held fast well done the only thing good for us this trade period :)
Now all those comments ripping Yarran for being a lazy, C-Grade footballer will need to be shelved for another season :p
8)
Quote from: elephants on October 22, 2015, 04:07:15 PM
Now all those comments ripping Yarran for being a lazy, C-Grade footballer will need to be shelved for another season :p
The jury is still out! At his best though he is just what we need
Happy to get Yaz. Exactly what we need! At his best he's so damaging, just need him to perform at that level now :P
Quote from: elephants on October 22, 2015, 04:07:15 PM
Now all those comments ripping Yarran for being a lazy, C-Grade footballer will need to be shelved for another season :p
They are not comments they are fact he is lazy with a shower attitude and can't say that he will help the Tiges in there quest to go further in the finals any way we have him and that is all there is to say ATM
Port delisted Andrew Moore and reports suggest we're interested in picking him up as a delisted free agent.
Quote from: Nige on October 24, 2015, 12:42:02 PM
Port delisted Andrew Moore and reports suggest we're interested in picking him up as a delisted free agent.
Worth a look I reckon. Didn't realise he was a top 10 draft pick
Quote from: quinny88 on October 24, 2015, 07:48:00 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 24, 2015, 12:42:02 PM
Port delisted Andrew Moore and reports suggest we're interested in picking him up as a delisted free agent.
Worth a look I reckon. Didn't realise he was a top 10 draft pick
Victim of Port's midfield depth to an extent. Also was pretty decent in the SANFL as far as I know. Inside mid so looks like we've got another player of that type on our hands if we get him.
Yaz will play his old side in Round 1 next year as has become tradition.
If we go a mid like Balic/Oliver/Mathieson with pick 12 I would like us to target one of Hardwick/Dodge/Ferreira with our next pick. I highly doubt all three would be there but there should be at least one available.
I'd love any of those three. 8)
Also, Shane Edwards has re-signed until the end of 2019!
Great news, only Titch & Vickery are FAs at the end of 2016. Good to have him signed off before the media torch turns to him.
As you probably know I am not a big fan of Titch but to his credit he had a very good year but his performances in the last 3 E/ finals have been nothing short of pathetic something he needs to sort quickly
Quote from: shaker on October 26, 2015, 06:57:08 PM
his performances in the last 3 E/ finals have been nothing short of pathetic something he needs to sort quickly
So was the 3/4 of the team in each of those finals.
NAB Challenge fixture released.
Friday Feb 19th vs Freo in Mandurah, WA @ 4.10pm WST
Saturday Feb 27th vs Hawks in Beaconsfield, VIC @ 4.40pm EDT
Thursday March 10th vs Port at Eithad @ 7.10pm EDT
Quote from: Nige on October 27, 2015, 01:21:31 PM
NAB Challenge fixture released.
Friday Feb 19th vs Freo in Mandurah, WA @ 4.10pm WST
Saturday Feb 27th vs Hawks in Beaconsfield, VIC @ 4.40pm EDT
Thursday March 10th vs Port at Eithad @ 7.10pm EDT
Meh, only thing that comes out of the nab challenge is injuries. Play the kids and let's look to belting Carlton by 70 points in round 1
Quote from: Bully on October 25, 2015, 08:43:04 PM
If we go a mid like Balic/Oliver/Mathieson with pick 12 I would like us to target one of Hardwick/Dodge/Ferreira with our next pick. I highly doubt all three would be there but there should be at least one available.
I will add Kerbatieh & Markov to that list, some good numbers from both players. I think this is the year to grab a small/medium forward, I reckon Kerbatieh will be the one if available, we've already seen him up close and the reports are good.
What about Daniel Rioli kids got some talent, and should be around late.
Matt Dea and Nathan Gordon have been delisted while Matt Thomas has retired.
Matt Dea very unlucky imo.
Quote from: Nige on October 28, 2015, 06:06:40 PM
Matt Dea and Nathan Gordon have been delisted while Matt Thomas has retired.
Matt Dea very unlucky imo.
Yeah didn't Dea win the VFL b&f?
Anyone else think we should look to grab Matt Wright? Was delisted from Adelaide but I rate him. Similair style to Chris Knights
Quote from: quinny88 on October 28, 2015, 07:10:23 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 28, 2015, 06:06:40 PM
Matt Dea and Nathan Gordon have been delisted while Matt Thomas has retired.
Matt Dea very unlucky imo.
Yeah didn't Dea win the VFL b&f?
Anyone else think we should look to grab Matt Wright? Was delisted from Adelaide but I rate him. Similair style to Chris Knights
Yup, Dea won the B&F, thought he was at the front of the line for as far as defensive depth was concerned, apparently not. I guess it's part of the reason we were keen to retain Astbury.
Not a huge fan of Matt Wright, I can't see him being any better than guys like Gordon were for us tbh (granted, Wright > Gordon).
The two delistings and retirement today make me believe we'll pick up a delisted free agent or two. Andrew Moore seems a likely one, especially with Tank gone. Gives us another inside mid.
Quote from: Nige on October 28, 2015, 07:42:39 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on October 28, 2015, 07:10:23 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 28, 2015, 06:06:40 PM
Matt Dea and Nathan Gordon have been delisted while Matt Thomas has retired.
Matt Dea very unlucky imo.
Yeah didn't Dea win the VFL b&f?
Anyone else think we should look to grab Matt Wright? Was delisted from Adelaide but I rate him. Similair style to Chris Knights
Yup, Dea won the B&F, thought he was at the front of the line for as far as defensive depth was concerned, apparently not. I guess it's part of the reason we were keen to retain Astbury.
Not a huge fan of Matt Wright, I can't see him being any better than guys like Gordon were for us tbh (granted, Wright > Gordon).
The two delistings and retirement today make me believe we'll pick up a delisted free agent or two. Andrew Moore seems a likely one, especially with Tank gone. Gives us another inside mid.
Dea will surely be picked up by another club.
Yeah would be great to find another basement bargain. Anthony Miles 2.0
no, not "Nippa" Gordon?! every time I saw him play he was good...
Quote from: Donnie Brasco on October 28, 2015, 08:32:03 PM
no, not "Nippa" Gordon?! every time I saw him play he was good...
I'm not sure we watched the same games then.
I mean, I liked the guy but he had moments where he looked below VFL quality.
Yeah how many games did you watch DB? :P
Haha yeah agree with Nige, had some very good games but also had some games where he done flower all
If you're small you've gotta be quick and have great goal sense or be a contested/ tackling beast. He was none of the above. Not a bad player but a Bit of a nothing player and at 26 by the start of the season, probably wasn't worth perusing with.
2016 fixture for the Tiges: http://www.afl.com.au/fixture?teamId=CD_T120#tteam
Got a lot of games that'll be televised and in the Friday night, Saturday night and Sunday afternoon slots which is great.
Quote from: Nige on October 29, 2015, 11:18:15 AM
2016 fixture for the Tiges: http://www.afl.com.au/fixture?teamId=CD_T120#tteam
Got a lot of games that'll be televised and in the Friday night, Saturday night and Sunday afternoon slots which is great.
Pretty tough draw this year. Need to get off to a flyer!
6 Friday nights and a Thursday night opening round ;D
Champion data rated our fixture as the 3rd hardest. Not too much of a concern as apparently last years was the 5th hardest and we still managed 15 wins
Lambert has earned himself a permanent position on the senior list.
Quote from: Toga on October 30, 2015, 06:01:25 PM
Lambert has earned himself a permanent position on the senior list.
Well deserved
Dunno if anyone else has read the season reviews for the players, but they've been great.
I'm a huge fan of this kid and I genuinely think he has a future at our club: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-11-05/castagnas-impressive-climb
Reading it, he seems to know where he's at and is genuinely interested in learning, becoming a better player and breaking into the side at some point.
Patrick Keane â€@AFL_PKeane 2m2 minutes ago
AFL advises that Richmond has signed Andrew Moore (formerly Pt Adel) as a delisted free agent. He is now able to join the club immediately.
Yep. Moore's now a Tiger.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-11-06/tigers-snare-moore
I think this could be a good acquisition. Did well at SANFL level and was a top 10 pick. Hopefully we can get the best out of him. Him and Townsend coming to the club really addresses the inside mid need.
It might mean we take Ah Chee at 12 after all.
Changed the title of the thread since preseason starts now!
Still the place to talk about offseason stuff like the draft and DFA, but if you hear anything about pre-season training or anything like that, you can post it here.
Quote from: Nige on November 06, 2015, 11:12:06 AM
It might mean we take Ah Chee at 12 after all.
I think he's our man, have heard Dan Richardson speak in tongues about small forwards so it would appear we are lining up Ah Chee, particularly if Milera is gone. Personally I don't mind the move, Ah Chee has blistering pace, can leap on top of players shoulders is generally a good kick on both sides. Don't think he'll ever be a midfielder but if he can have the same impact as Betts or Walters then he'll be worth it.
1st-4th year players did the 3km time trial. Brandon Ellis took it out ahead of Kamdyn McIntosh and Jason Castagna.
Think I've just discovered a rookie gem from the Tasmanian State League. Check out Stuart Donnelly if you get a chance, looks every bit as good as Adam Saad albeit in a lesser league. 7.96 for agility, 2.96sec/20m, 13.11 beep but has not yet fully committed to football. Would love to see him selected with our first rookie selection.
13.11 on the beep test isn't very impressive, worth a shot on the rookie list though.
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on November 15, 2015, 07:36:10 PM
13.11 on the beep test isn't very impressive, worth a shot on the rookie list though.
This is from little preparation, Donnelly has been playing in an amateur environment, he hasn't been exposed to a professional training regime. Considering Mathieson has recorded a 12.4 and looks like a top 25 pick, 13.11 is a very promising base to work with. In my experience you can lift a players beep output by 1-1.5 once they hit the big time. I'm guessing a guy like Donnelly should be able to nudge 15 which is at the upper end of the spectrum. Mathieson will need a 14 beep to stay a afloat, I think this is why he's gone from a top 10 pick to someone who may drift out into the second round.
As for his agility, Donnelly would have placed 2nd at the national combine, his speed puts him in the top 20%. His style of play is very reminiscent of Pearce Hanley, he's one of the best rookie prospects as far as I can see.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEcKPCJOcPQ&feature=youtu.be
New numbers for 2016.
#1 - Nick Vlaustin (Was #31)
#7 - Ben Lennon (Was #35)
#13 - Chris Yarran
#15 - Andrew Moore
#21 - Jacob Townsend
#23 - Kane Lambert (was #48)
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-11-20/tiger-player-number-changes
Yarran has big shoes to fill inheriting Jordan Mcmahons number.
Matt Arnot is gonna be playing at Port Melbourne again.
What are the tips for tonight boys? Who do we want with pick 12?
Sounds like it could be between Callum Ah Chee, Wayne Milera and Daniel Rioli. I'd prefer the first two. Not completely sold in Rioli and reckon he's been overhyped because of his name. I'd rather hope he somehow slides to 52 (which won't happen) than take him at 12.
If we're looking at a mid, there are plenty of options. An inside mid will be what we get though if we do opt for that. Names like Jade Gresham, Harley Balic etc have been mentioned for our pick. Also seen Ryan Burton listed as a possibility for us, he's a Jake Stringer type. 191cm atm and a forward that could play midfield. However he broke his leg and hasn't played footy for ages so could take a little bit to come good.
Personally I want Clayton Oliver, but there's absolutely no way he's getting to 12 now. Ah Chee or Milera would be my first preference.
Curnow any chance to slide?
Quote from: Toga on November 24, 2015, 11:58:31 AM
Curnow any chance to slide?
Considering Carlton have like 3 picks before us? Nope.
One mock I saw had us taking Rioli at 28 haha.
I reckon Milera would be a good fit.
I'm fairly sure the Hawks want him with one of their first rounders, so us taking is probably the only thing stopping that happening. If they don't take him, he won't get past Essendon's second lot of back-to-back picks.
Sounds good to me, I have no real desire to pick him.
Partington is a lad I like who could be available around us, more than anything he just seems like a quality person who has overcome adversity, perennially undervalued aspect of a kid I think.
Other name I've seen thrown up is Riley Bonner (keen). But I really have no clue about the draft so I'll probs just be happy with whoever we get and back the club in haha.
I think you guys sit at a decent spot actually. You should end up with somebody pretty decent. Plus you guys have recruited pretty damn well the past few seasons. Particularly last year - Duggan, Lamb, Nelson, Cavka and Waterman was a pretty good haul.
Quote from: Nige on November 24, 2015, 12:58:32 PM
I think you guys sit at a decent spot actually. You should end up with somebody pretty decent. Plus you guys have recruited pretty damn well the past few seasons. Particularly last year - Duggan, Lamb, Nelson, Cavka and Waterman was a pretty good haul.
Yeah man, depends if we go for another elite kick (Bonner), all-round mid (Partington) or pace/x-factor (Rioli).
Knowing my picking ability though we'll pick someone completely different that I hadn't even thought of hahah
Rioli it is! Looks exciting. Finally a dangerous small forward
Oleg Markov.. What a name
Rioli will have to convince me like Ellis did.
Love Markov, really happy with that one.
Broad an interesting choice to say the least.
Rioli should be good, Markov I remember hearing about him and the other guy we'd be lucky if he plays a game.
We've also continue our fine tradition of picking mature agers with Broad who is 22 and a 191cm versatile defender.
Quote from: Nige on November 24, 2015, 11:09:43 PM
We've also continue our fine tradition of picking mature agers with Broad who is 22 and a 191cm versatile defender.
Oh sick sounds like he could actually be useful.
Apparently had a really good season in the WAFL running off half back.
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Rioli in his new colours.
Quote from: quinny88 on November 24, 2015, 10:25:00 PM
Oleg Markov.. What a name
First time he cops a falcon... "In Soviet Russia, ball hits you!"
Also his name is still cool backwards, Vokram Gelo :D
Quote from: Nige on November 25, 2015, 12:03:52 AM
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Rioli in his new colours.
Needs to fill out to fit that jumper haha.
Really excited by him just looking at his highlights though. Think he is that type of player that will create that real buzz in the crowd whenever he goes near the ball
Quote from: Gigantor on November 25, 2015, 12:04:49 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on November 24, 2015, 10:25:00 PM
Oleg Markov.. What a name
First time he cops a falcon... "In Soviet Russia, ball hits you!"
Also his name is still cool backwards, Vokram Gelo :D
Haha gold
Can we unleash him against Essendon for Dreamtime at the G, that'd surely be perfect? Or maybe against Hawthorn just because Rioli v Rioli?
Reckon Markov and Broad are great picks.
Rioli has a ton of upside, high-risk but very high-reward.
The last few years Richmond has been in a good position to snap up the best available player that slipped through due to other clubs drafting for needs, which got us guys like Lennon and Ellis. Still haven't been able to fill that nippy small forward void through trade/DFA so now was the time to draft one, excited to see what he can do.
Quote from: Nige on November 25, 2015, 12:17:11 AM
Can we unleash him against Essendon for Dreamtime at the G, that'd surely be perfect? Or maybe against Hawthorn just because Rioli v Rioli?
Imagine Bruce commentating that game :o
Quote from: Rusty00 on November 25, 2015, 01:50:35 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 25, 2015, 12:17:11 AM
Can we unleash him against Essendon for Dreamtime at the G, that'd surely be perfect? Or maybe against Hawthorn just because Rioli v Rioli?
Imagine Bruce commentating that game :o
It is a Friday night game... :o
Quote from: Nige on November 25, 2015, 06:07:48 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on November 25, 2015, 01:50:35 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 25, 2015, 12:17:11 AM
Can we unleash him against Essendon for Dreamtime at the G, that'd surely be perfect? Or maybe against Hawthorn just because Rioli v Rioli?
Imagine Bruce commentating that game :o
It is a Friday night game... :o
If Dan is anywhere near as good as Cyril i'm tipping Bruce will have a stroke at some point. :P
Quote from: Grazz on November 25, 2015, 06:15:13 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 25, 2015, 06:07:48 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on November 25, 2015, 01:50:35 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 25, 2015, 12:17:11 AM
Can we unleash him against Essendon for Dreamtime at the G, that'd surely be perfect? Or maybe against Hawthorn just because Rioli v Rioli?
Imagine Bruce commentating that game :o
It is a Friday night game... :o
If Dan is anywhere near as good as Cyril i'm tipping Bruce will have a stroke at some point. :P
Now when you say stroke...
Quote from: GoLions on November 25, 2015, 06:31:13 PM
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Quote from: Nige on November 25, 2015, 06:07:48 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on November 25, 2015, 01:50:35 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 25, 2015, 12:17:11 AM
Can we unleash him against Essendon for Dreamtime at the G, that'd surely be perfect? Or maybe against Hawthorn just because Rioli v Rioli?
Imagine Bruce commentating that game :o
It is a Friday night game... :o
If Dan is anywhere near as good as Cyril i'm tipping Bruce will have a stroke at some point. :P
Now when you say stroke...
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Strange draft this one, it was pretty even after Curnow so hard to be hyper critical. Don't mind the Rioli pick, preferred Hibberd but there's not much separating these blokes. I actually think Frank has grown a bit more ballsy these days, this is the first time he's targeted an athlete rather than a seasoned footballer, be an interesting test case. For those who are interested check out these comparisons.
Cyril Rioli Daniel Rioli
178cm.......... Height ................ 180cm
74kg........... Weight ................ 69kg
2.90sec......... 20m ................. 2.89sec
8.89sec......... Agility.................8.24sec
13.1............ Beep ................. 14.6
10.32 ........... 3km ................. 10.09
24.01.........Repeat Sprint .......... 24.15
The Markov pick is a good one, plenty to work with and he'll create some healthy competition with Menadue. He's already played SANFL reserves so there's a good chance he'll be playing some senior footy this year. Broad is also a decent pick, given we don't have an adequate replacement for Chaplin he's ready to go, a solid state league player who has improved markedly this year.
Quote from: Bully on November 26, 2015, 02:53:38 PM
Strange draft this one, it was pretty even after Curnow so hard to be hyper critical. Don't mind the Rioli pick, preferred Hibberd but there's not much separating these blokes. I actually think Frank has grown a bit more ballsy these days, this is the first time he's targeted an athlete rather than a seasoned footballer, be an interesting test case. For those who are interested check out these comparisons.
Cyril Rioli Daniel Rioli
178cm.......... Height ................ 180cm
74kg........... Weight ................ 69kg
2.90sec......... 20m ................. 2.89sec
8.89sec......... Agility.................8.24sec
13.1............ Beep ................. 14.6
10.32 ........... 3km ................. 10.09
24.01.........Repeat Sprint .......... 24.15
The Markov pick is a good one, plenty to work with and he'll create some healthy competition with Menadue. He's already played SANFL reserves so there's a good chance he'll be playing some senior footy this year. Broad is also a decent pick, given we don't have an adequate replacement for Chaplin he's ready to go, a solid state league player who has improved markedly this year.
?? Broad is a running half back. He wouldn't slot into Chaplin's spot surely?
Quote from: Ricochet on November 26, 2015, 02:56:24 PM
Quote from: Bully on November 26, 2015, 02:53:38 PM
Strange draft this one, it was pretty even after Curnow so hard to be hyper critical. Don't mind the Rioli pick, preferred Hibberd but there's not much separating these blokes. I actually think Frank has grown a bit more ballsy these days, this is the first time he's targeted an athlete rather than a seasoned footballer, be an interesting test case. For those who are interested check out these comparisons.
Cyril Rioli Daniel Rioli
178cm.......... Height ................ 180cm
74kg........... Weight ................ 69kg
2.90sec......... 20m ................. 2.89sec
8.89sec......... Agility.................8.24sec
13.1............ Beep ................. 14.6
10.32 ........... 3km ................. 10.09
24.01.........Repeat Sprint .......... 24.15
The Markov pick is a good one, plenty to work with and he'll create some healthy competition with Menadue. He's already played SANFL reserves so there's a good chance he'll be playing some senior footy this year. Broad is also a decent pick, given we don't have an adequate replacement for Chaplin he's ready to go, a solid state league player who has improved markedly this year.
?? Broad is a running half back. He wouldn't slot into Chaplin's spot surely?
At 191cm he can paly as a third tall, in fact it's only this year that he's been more of a creative play-maker, prior to that he's been your typical shutdown defender. Chaplin has never taken on the gorillas, he's more your mobile back-up player for Rance & Grimes.
Nice stats on Rioli, seems to compare athletically pretty well with Cyril. Let's hope he can bring that same creative spark!
Quote from: Bully on November 26, 2015, 03:09:46 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 26, 2015, 02:56:24 PM
Quote from: Bully on November 26, 2015, 02:53:38 PM
Strange draft this one, it was pretty even after Curnow so hard to be hyper critical. Don't mind the Rioli pick, preferred Hibberd but there's not much separating these blokes. I actually think Frank has grown a bit more ballsy these days, this is the first time he's targeted an athlete rather than a seasoned footballer, be an interesting test case. For those who are interested check out these comparisons.
Cyril Rioli Daniel Rioli
178cm.......... Height ................ 180cm
74kg........... Weight ................ 69kg
2.90sec......... 20m ................. 2.89sec
8.89sec......... Agility.................8.24sec
13.1............ Beep ................. 14.6
10.32 ........... 3km ................. 10.09
24.01.........Repeat Sprint .......... 24.15
The Markov pick is a good one, plenty to work with and he'll create some healthy competition with Menadue. He's already played SANFL reserves so there's a good chance he'll be playing some senior footy this year. Broad is also a decent pick, given we don't have an adequate replacement for Chaplin he's ready to go, a solid state league player who has improved markedly this year.
?? Broad is a running half back. He wouldn't slot into Chaplin's spot surely?
At 191cm he can paly as a third tall, in fact it's only this year that he's been more of a creative play-maker, prior to that he's been your typical shutdown defender. Chaplin has never taken on the gorillas, he's more your mobile back-up player for Rance & Grimes.
Nah man that's not correct. Early in his senior career at WAFL level he was tried on a wing because of his running ability and then settled in across half back. Could do lockdown jobs on small/medium fwds. But he wouldn't play on bigger boys like Chaplin does
Quote from: Ricochet on November 26, 2015, 03:13:33 PM
Quote from: Bully on November 26, 2015, 03:09:46 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 26, 2015, 02:56:24 PM
Quote from: Bully on November 26, 2015, 02:53:38 PM
Strange draft this one, it was pretty even after Curnow so hard to be hyper critical. Don't mind the Rioli pick, preferred Hibberd but there's not much separating these blokes. I actually think Frank has grown a bit more ballsy these days, this is the first time he's targeted an athlete rather than a seasoned footballer, be an interesting test case. For those who are interested check out these comparisons.
Cyril Rioli Daniel Rioli
178cm.......... Height ................ 180cm
74kg........... Weight ................ 69kg
2.90sec......... 20m ................. 2.89sec
8.89sec......... Agility.................8.24sec
13.1............ Beep ................. 14.6
10.32 ........... 3km ................. 10.09
24.01.........Repeat Sprint .......... 24.15
The Markov pick is a good one, plenty to work with and he'll create some healthy competition with Menadue. He's already played SANFL reserves so there's a good chance he'll be playing some senior footy this year. Broad is also a decent pick, given we don't have an adequate replacement for Chaplin he's ready to go, a solid state league player who has improved markedly this year.
?? Broad is a running half back. He wouldn't slot into Chaplin's spot surely?
At 191cm he can paly as a third tall, in fact it's only this year that he's been more of a creative play-maker, prior to that he's been your typical shutdown defender. Chaplin has never taken on the gorillas, he's more your mobile back-up player for Rance & Grimes.
Nah man that's not correct. Early in his senior career at WAFL level he was tried on a wing because of his running ability and then settled in across half back. Could do lockdown jobs on small/medium fwds. But he wouldn't play on bigger boys like Chaplin does
Chaplin plays more as a third tall, a guy like Aaron Francis could slot into his position despite being a few centimetres shorter. My understanding of Broad is he's capable of playing on taller types as well as shorter ones, not suggesting he'll take on Travis Cloke but neither would Chappy.
Quote from: Bully on November 26, 2015, 03:55:34 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 26, 2015, 03:13:33 PM
Quote from: Bully on November 26, 2015, 03:09:46 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 26, 2015, 02:56:24 PM
Quote from: Bully on November 26, 2015, 02:53:38 PM
Strange draft this one, it was pretty even after Curnow so hard to be hyper critical. Don't mind the Rioli pick, preferred Hibberd but there's not much separating these blokes. I actually think Frank has grown a bit more ballsy these days, this is the first time he's targeted an athlete rather than a seasoned footballer, be an interesting test case. For those who are interested check out these comparisons.
Cyril Rioli Daniel Rioli
178cm.......... Height ................ 180cm
74kg........... Weight ................ 69kg
2.90sec......... 20m ................. 2.89sec
8.89sec......... Agility.................8.24sec
13.1............ Beep ................. 14.6
10.32 ........... 3km ................. 10.09
24.01.........Repeat Sprint .......... 24.15
The Markov pick is a good one, plenty to work with and he'll create some healthy competition with Menadue. He's already played SANFL reserves so there's a good chance he'll be playing some senior footy this year. Broad is also a decent pick, given we don't have an adequate replacement for Chaplin he's ready to go, a solid state league player who has improved markedly this year.
?? Broad is a running half back. He wouldn't slot into Chaplin's spot surely?
At 191cm he can paly as a third tall, in fact it's only this year that he's been more of a creative play-maker, prior to that he's been your typical shutdown defender. Chaplin has never taken on the gorillas, he's more your mobile back-up player for Rance & Grimes.
Nah man that's not correct. Early in his senior career at WAFL level he was tried on a wing because of his running ability and then settled in across half back. Could do lockdown jobs on small/medium fwds. But he wouldn't play on bigger boys like Chaplin does
Chaplin plays more as a third tall, a guy like Aaron Francis could slot into his position despite being a few centimetres shorter. My understanding of Broad is he's capable of playing on taller types as well as shorter ones, not suggesting he'll take on Travis Cloke but neither would Chappy.
He has the ability to in patches but no chance you'll use him like that regularly. Chaplin would have nearly 15-20kg on Broad and you wouldn't look to put that much size on him because he's not that kind of player.
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Quote from: Bully on November 26, 2015, 03:55:34 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 26, 2015, 03:13:33 PM
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Quote from: Ricochet on November 26, 2015, 02:56:24 PM
Quote from: Bully on November 26, 2015, 02:53:38 PM
Strange draft this one, it was pretty even after Curnow so hard to be hyper critical. Don't mind the Rioli pick, preferred Hibberd but there's not much separating these blokes. I actually think Frank has grown a bit more ballsy these days, this is the first time he's targeted an athlete rather than a seasoned footballer, be an interesting test case. For those who are interested check out these comparisons.
Cyril Rioli Daniel Rioli
178cm.......... Height ................ 180cm
74kg........... Weight ................ 69kg
2.90sec......... 20m ................. 2.89sec
8.89sec......... Agility.................8.24sec
13.1............ Beep ................. 14.6
10.32 ........... 3km ................. 10.09
24.01.........Repeat Sprint .......... 24.15
The Markov pick is a good one, plenty to work with and he'll create some healthy competition with Menadue. He's already played SANFL reserves so there's a good chance he'll be playing some senior footy this year. Broad is also a decent pick, given we don't have an adequate replacement for Chaplin he's ready to go, a solid state league player who has improved markedly this year.
?? Broad is a running half back. He wouldn't slot into Chaplin's spot surely?
At 191cm he can paly as a third tall, in fact it's only this year that he's been more of a creative play-maker, prior to that he's been your typical shutdown defender. Chaplin has never taken on the gorillas, he's more your mobile back-up player for Rance & Grimes.
Nah man that's not correct. Early in his senior career at WAFL level he was tried on a wing because of his running ability and then settled in across half back. Could do lockdown jobs on small/medium fwds. But he wouldn't play on bigger boys like Chaplin does
Chaplin plays more as a third tall, a guy like Aaron Francis could slot into his position despite being a few centimetres shorter. My understanding of Broad is he's capable of playing on taller types as well as shorter ones, not suggesting he'll take on Travis Cloke but neither would Chappy.
He has the ability to in patches but no chance you'll use him like that regularly. Chaplin would have nearly 15-20kg on Broad and you wouldn't look to put that much size on him because he's not that kind of player.
So as a player comparison who does he represent?
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Strange draft this one, it was pretty even after Curnow so hard to be hyper critical. Don't mind the Rioli pick, preferred Hibberd but there's not much separating these blokes. I actually think Frank has grown a bit more ballsy these days, this is the first time he's targeted an athlete rather than a seasoned footballer, be an interesting test case. For those who are interested check out these comparisons.
Cyril Rioli Daniel Rioli
178cm.......... Height ................ 180cm
74kg........... Weight ................ 69kg
2.90sec......... 20m ................. 2.89sec
8.89sec......... Agility.................8.24sec
13.1............ Beep ................. 14.6
10.32 ........... 3km ................. 10.09
24.01.........Repeat Sprint .......... 24.15
The Markov pick is a good one, plenty to work with and he'll create some healthy competition with Menadue. He's already played SANFL reserves so there's a good chance he'll be playing some senior footy this year. Broad is also a decent pick, given we don't have an adequate replacement for Chaplin he's ready to go, a solid state league player who has improved markedly this year.
?? Broad is a running half back. He wouldn't slot into Chaplin's spot surely?
At 191cm he can paly as a third tall, in fact it's only this year that he's been more of a creative play-maker, prior to that he's been your typical shutdown defender. Chaplin has never taken on the gorillas, he's more your mobile back-up player for Rance & Grimes.
Nah man that's not correct. Early in his senior career at WAFL level he was tried on a wing because of his running ability and then settled in across half back. Could do lockdown jobs on small/medium fwds. But he wouldn't play on bigger boys like Chaplin does
Chaplin plays more as a third tall, a guy like Aaron Francis could slot into his position despite being a few centimetres shorter. My understanding of Broad is he's capable of playing on taller types as well as shorter ones, not suggesting he'll take on Travis Cloke but neither would Chappy.
He has the ability to in patches but no chance you'll use him like that regularly. Chaplin would have nearly 15-20kg on Broad and you wouldn't look to put that much size on him because he's not that kind of player.
So as a player comparison who does he represent?
Hmm running halfback with a great running ability. Could lock down small/medium. Provides plenty of run/drive.
Not sure who at Richmond you'd compare him to tbh, which is why i like the pick up for you guys.
Only concern is his kicking and decision making
So we've picked up Callum Moore, Mabior Chol and Adam Marcon in the rookie draft.
Marcon's gonna be the second coming of Kane Lambert.
Callum Moore is a tall forward and Mabior Chol is a ruck/forward.
Quote from: Nige on November 27, 2015, 12:17:11 PM
So we've picked up Callum Moore, Mabior Chol and Adam Marcon in the rookie draft.
Marcon's gonna be the second coming of Kane Lambert.
Callum Moore is a tall forward and Mabior Chol is a ruck/forward.
Big call Nige
Quote from: Nige on November 27, 2015, 12:17:11 PM
So we've picked up Callum Moore, Mabior Chol and Adam Marcon in the rookie draft.
Marcon's gonna be the second coming of Kane Lambert.
Callum Moore is a tall forward and Mabior Chol is a ruck/forward.
Callum Moore holds the ball like a rugby player when kicking, gunna be a lot of remedial action required to sort that out.
great, onya' dusty.
Quote from: Donnie Brasco on December 08, 2015, 10:18:18 AM
great, onya' dusty.
Threatened someone with chopsticks at a resteraunt called Mr Miyagi.. I had to laugh
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Quote from: Donnie Brasco on December 08, 2015, 10:18:18 AM
great, onya' dusty.
Threatened someone with chopsticks at a resteraunt called Mr Miyagi.. I had to laugh
Kevin Bartlett saying he should get 12 months.
not sure i agree with that at all.
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great, onya' dusty.
Threatened someone with chopsticks at a resteraunt called Mr Miyagi.. I had to laugh
Kevin Bartlett saying he should get 12 months.
not sure i agree with that at all.
Dusty dusty dusty, reckon you just made it so much harder for Asian players to get drafted :P.
12 months? Ridiculous.
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Haha that's just KB being KB. He's paid to make big calls and cause a stir.
He earmarks Richmond as certain premiers every year too. No one in their right mind would believe he deserves 12 months for such a minor incident. Was stupid but if it was anyone other than probably Dustin Martin, Buddy Franklin or Dane Swan then it wouldn't have even made it to print.
Brian Lake was actually arrested and fined a couple of years ago for having a drunken blue with his wife in public and even that got less of a beat up than this
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Quote from: Donnie Brasco on December 08, 2015, 10:18:18 AM
great, onya' dusty.
Threatened someone with chopsticks at a resteraunt called Mr Miyagi.. I had to laugh
Kevin Bartlett saying he should get 12 months.
not sure i agree with that at all.
KB should flower off
Richmond knew that this sought of stuff would occur when they drafted him (he has always had problems stemming from a tough childhood) and I have to say that for all the risk the club took, and the additional precautions put in place to ensure success (i.e. bringing in Choco to help these players with their development on and off the field), they have been paid dividends in the form of one of the best players in the AFL (I rank him along with Gaj & Fyfe as the 3 most genuine talents in the AFL - Wingard & Buddy would be added to make the best 5 imo).
He has not been half as belligerent as everyone predicted he would potential be and has been treated more harshly, as nothing more than an object of deterence, than any other player in the comp. (that meaningless two figured gesture against the Pies fans was an overreaction by the AFL which would not have been considered warranted if a less eccentric player did it - what about Hodgey's flowering DUI only receiving some minor jokes and ridicule).
If Richmond decide on a punishment... fair enough
If the Police want to prosecute... fair enough
But KB should mind his own business because Dusty has been treated unfairly in the past and generally the reason why is because of outspoken pundits like him getting involved when no one asked them to
Poor Dusty, being victimised again...the weak coward. My monies on he doesn't even know what he's done wrong.
I'm staggered by the fact Dustin knew how to use a chopstick :o
Quote from: frenzy on December 08, 2015, 06:26:49 PM
Poor Dusty, being victimised again...the weak coward. My monies on he doesn't even know what he's done wrong.
Yeah he does.. He was asked to leave a resteraunt for getting into a verbal altercation with another patron. What a badass
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I'm staggered by the fact Dustin knew how to use a chopstick :o
To be fair, threatening to stab someone with them doesn't necessarily mean he can eat with them haha
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Quote from: tbagrocks on December 08, 2015, 06:41:46 PM
I'm staggered by the fact Dustin knew how to use a chopstick :o
To be fair, threatening to stab someone with them doesn't necessarily mean he can eat with them haha
Maybe that's why he was angry? ???
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I'm staggered by the fact Dustin knew how to use a chopstick :o
To be fair, threatening to stab someone with them doesn't necessarily mean he can eat with them haha
Maybe that's why he was angry? ???
Either that or they'd run out of lemon chicken
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I'm staggered by the fact Dustin knew how to use a chopstick :o
To be fair, threatening to stab someone with them doesn't necessarily mean he can eat with them haha
Maybe that's why he was angry? ???
Either that or they'd run out of lemon chicken
I'd probably threaten to stab someone with a chopstick too if the Asian restaurant I was at didn't have prawn crackers or sweet and sour pork.
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^ that is gold ;D
I appreciate the comedy and know it's not meant in a bad taste or anything bad, but whenever I see a "putoutyour" t makes me think of Phil Hughes and like, sorta taking away the effect of the #putoutyourbats
I'm not trying to be a douche it's just the way I feel. like I said I know it's not meant in bad taste, just a bit of fun
thoughts on the potential punishment?
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on December 09, 2015, 01:08:53 PM
thoughts on the potential punishment?
Which one? If it's 12 months that's a joke. I'm bias but I wouldn't have him missing any footy. A hefty fine and community service in some sort of violence against women role would be enough. At the end of the day he didn't assault anyone. He had a verbal altercation and made an empty threat. If he had of threatened to punch her or threatened her wth a knife I would take it more seriously but when it was with chopsticks it's pretty clear he was being a dunk smart ass. Shouldn't have done it but it's not worth the hanging a lot of people seem to think it is
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Quote from: RiOtChEsS on December 09, 2015, 01:08:53 PM
thoughts on the potential punishment?
Which one? If it's 12 months that's a joke. I'm bias but I wouldn't have him missing any footy. A hefty fine and community service in some sort of violence against women role would be enough. At the end of the day he didn't assault anyone. He had a verbal altercation and made an empty threat. If he had of threatened to punch her or threatened her wth a knife I would take it more seriously but when it was with chopsticks it's pretty clear he was being a dunk smart ass. Shouldn't have done it but it's not worth the hanging a lot of people seem to think it is
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thoughts on the potential punishment?
nothing from the AFL.
leave it up to the courts if they want to do anything.
Drink Driving is far more serious as that could kill a person.
I reckon if he threatened a man it wouldn't have been big news.
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Quote from: RiOtChEsS on December 09, 2015, 01:08:53 PM
thoughts on the potential punishment?
nothing from the AFL.
leave it up to the courts if they want to do anything.
Drink Driving is far more serious as that could kill a person.
I reckon if he threatened a man it wouldn't have been big news.
The lady isn't pressing charges and accepted his apology. Even Richmond said it was "a hiccup" but because of the media backlash Richmond have been forced to take it more seriously and are going to have to be seen to be doing something now so wouldn't be surprised if he misses some footy which just punishes the team and the members more than Dusty
Yep, Richmond said it's a hiccup. go figure.
http://www.sen.com.au/news/12-15/brendon-gale-this-is-a-very-serious-matter#21Cd0cZHeoD2jxbQ.97
He would have copped some flack if it had been a man and probably slapped with a fine.
This article I think summaries everything pretty well
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/victims-account-will-shape-richmond-tigers-star-dustin-martins-punishment-20151208-glipay.html
the lady's account makes it seem pretty bad. With the leagues stance on violence against women, I wouldn't be surprised if they made some sort of example out of him, and I wouldn't even disagree with that- it's part of society that should be stamped the flower out, and when you have high profile role models doing stuff like this they should be harshly punished. Richmond imo should ban him from NAB and the first 5-6 weeks of the season, with community service and a fine... hopefully it means there wouldn't be a massive reaction from the AFL... richmond's opening draw isn't too harsh anyway.
I know we're saying 12 months would be ridiculous, but it's not something I would be overly surprised about if they AFL really wanted to send a message. Dustin's 6 ft 2 and weighs over 90kg... someone that size physically intimidating a woman is not appropriate.
Ftr, about Brian Lake
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/star-hawthorn-recruit-brian-lake-issed-infringement-notice-after-drinking-heavily-in-sorrento/story-fnelctok-1226552981484
Him and his wife were having an argument, and they were BOTH fined and BOTH arrested for public drunkenness (had nothing to do with domestic violence or violence against women).
Quote from: Holz on December 09, 2015, 02:46:26 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on December 09, 2015, 01:08:53 PM
thoughts on the potential punishment?
nothing from the AFL.
leave it up to the courts if they want to do anything.
Drink Driving is far more serious as that could kill a person.
I reckon if he threatened a man it wouldn't have been big news.
there were a bit over 200 alcohol related deaths in australia last year
https://bitre.gov.au/publications/ongoing/road_deaths_australia_monthly_bulletins.aspx
http://www.ors.wa.gov.au/Topics/Drink-Driving
(albeit, I've extrapolated the percentage of alcohol fatalities from just WA data)
12.4 million people tested for drink driving, 111000 charged with drink driving
http://www.britzinoz.com/drink-driving-statistics-in-australia
so 0.18% of drink drivers cause a fatal accident (200/11000)
from domestic violence, one women is killed every week by their partner (so around 50)
there were 27 000 domestic violence cases in australia last year
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/the-numbers-that-will-shock-you-to-tears/news-story/8250b450739d9149a087a5d167599ecd
about 30% of these cases are male
http://www.oneinthree.com.au/overview/
So that means about 18900 cases of domestic violence against women, of which there's 50 deaths from violence from partners (0.3%)
while not every domestic violence case is reported (which would decrease that %), the number of people not caught drink driving would (I would assume), be much more. Also, the domestic violence stats are actually lower, since those deaths are those at the hand of partners, and wouldn't include parents, siblings etc.
point is, they're actually comparable fatality rates.
Quote from: frenzy on December 09, 2015, 06:03:34 PM
Yep, Richmond said it's a hiccup. go figure.
http://www.sen.com.au/news/12-15/brendon-gale-this-is-a-very-serious-matter#21Cd0cZHeoD2jxbQ.97
Like I said.. This was after the media backlash when they were forced to take it more seriously. At first Richmond said it was a hiccup
Quote from: Ziplock on December 09, 2015, 06:58:18 PM
He would have copped some flack if it had been a man and probably slapped with a fine.
This article I think summaries everything pretty well
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/victims-account-will-shape-richmond-tigers-star-dustin-martins-punishment-20151208-glipay.html
the lady's account makes it seem pretty bad. With the leagues stance on violence against women, I wouldn't be surprised if they made some sort of example out of him, and I wouldn't even disagree with that- it's part of society that should be stamped the flower out, and when you have high profile role models doing stuff like this they should be harshly punished. Richmond imo should ban him from NAB and the first 5-6 weeks of the season, with community service and a fine... hopefully it means there wouldn't be a massive reaction from the AFL... richmond's opening draw isn't too harsh anyway.
I know we're saying 12 months would be ridiculous, but it's not something I would be overly surprised about if they AFL really wanted to send a message. Dustin's 6 ft 2 and weighs over 90kg... someone that size physically intimidating a woman is not appropriate.
Ftr, about Brian Lake
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/star-hawthorn-recruit-brian-lake-issed-infringement-notice-after-drinking-heavily-in-sorrento/story-fnelctok-1226552981484
Him and his wife were having an argument, and they were BOTH fined and BOTH arrested for public drunkenness (had nothing to do with domestic violence or violence against women).
Neither did this.. He didn't lay a hand on her
Quote from: quinny88 on December 09, 2015, 07:24:18 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on December 09, 2015, 06:58:18 PM
He would have copped some flack if it had been a man and probably slapped with a fine.
This article I think summaries everything pretty well
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/victims-account-will-shape-richmond-tigers-star-dustin-martins-punishment-20151208-glipay.html
the lady's account makes it seem pretty bad. With the leagues stance on violence against women, I wouldn't be surprised if they made some sort of example out of him, and I wouldn't even disagree with that- it's part of society that should be stamped the flower out, and when you have high profile role models doing stuff like this they should be harshly punished. Richmond imo should ban him from NAB and the first 5-6 weeks of the season, with community service and a fine... hopefully it means there wouldn't be a massive reaction from the AFL... richmond's opening draw isn't too harsh anyway.
I know we're saying 12 months would be ridiculous, but it's not something I would be overly surprised about if they AFL really wanted to send a message. Dustin's 6 ft 2 and weighs over 90kg... someone that size physically intimidating a woman is not appropriate.
Ftr, about Brian Lake
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/star-hawthorn-recruit-brian-lake-issed-infringement-notice-after-drinking-heavily-in-sorrento/story-fnelctok-1226552981484
Him and his wife were having an argument, and they were BOTH fined and BOTH arrested for public drunkenness (had nothing to do with domestic violence or violence against women).
Neither did this.. He didn't lay a hand on her
Threatening a woman and physically cornering her still falls under the category of violence against women
http://www.endvawnow.org/en/articles/295-defining-violence-against-women-and-girls.html
he United Nations defines violence against women as “any act of gender-based violence that results in, or is likely to result in, physical, sexual or psychological harm or suffering to women, including threats of such acts, coercion or arbitrary deprivation of liberty, whether occurring in public or in private life†(General Assembly Resolution 48/104 Declaration on the Elimination of Violence against Women, 1993).
It's an extremely archaic, out of date and close minded view the be like 'all gee mate, he didn't touch her.'
What he did, drunkenly or not, demonstrates an attitude that should be strongly discouraged.
Quote from: Ziplock on December 09, 2015, 10:19:23 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on December 09, 2015, 07:24:18 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on December 09, 2015, 06:58:18 PM
He would have copped some flack if it had been a man and probably slapped with a fine.
This article I think summaries everything pretty well
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/victims-account-will-shape-richmond-tigers-star-dustin-martins-punishment-20151208-glipay.html
the lady's account makes it seem pretty bad. With the leagues stance on violence against women, I wouldn't be surprised if they made some sort of example out of him, and I wouldn't even disagree with that- it's part of society that should be stamped the flower out, and when you have high profile role models doing stuff like this they should be harshly punished. Richmond imo should ban him from NAB and the first 5-6 weeks of the season, with community service and a fine... hopefully it means there wouldn't be a massive reaction from the AFL... richmond's opening draw isn't too harsh anyway.
I know we're saying 12 months would be ridiculous, but it's not something I would be overly surprised about if they AFL really wanted to send a message. Dustin's 6 ft 2 and weighs over 90kg... someone that size physically intimidating a woman is not appropriate.
Ftr, about Brian Lake
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/star-hawthorn-recruit-brian-lake-issed-infringement-notice-after-drinking-heavily-in-sorrento/story-fnelctok-1226552981484
Him and his wife were having an argument, and they were BOTH fined and BOTH arrested for public drunkenness (had nothing to do with domestic violence or violence against women).
Neither did this.. He didn't lay a hand on her
Threatening a woman and physically cornering her still falls under the category of violence against women
http://www.endvawnow.org/en/articles/295-defining-violence-against-women-and-girls.html
he United Nations defines violence against women as “any act of gender-based violence that results in, or is likely to result in, physical, sexual or psychological harm or suffering to women, including threats of such acts, coercion or arbitrary deprivation of liberty, whether occurring in public or in private life†(General Assembly Resolution 48/104 Declaration on the Elimination of Violence against Women, 1993).
It's an extremely archaic, out of date and close minded view the be like 'all gee mate, he didn't touch her.'
What he did, drunkenly or not, demonstrates an attitude that should be strongly discouraged.
I'm not saying it shouldn't be discouraged. It was stupid and he deserves to be punished as a result but painting it with the same brush as domestic violence or violence against women is an exaggeration. The lady has not pressed charges and accepted his apology, don't think that would be the case if he had of belted her. What he did was stupid, not violent
Ive heard it said that he should be made to do community service to suffers of violence but, who from those circumstances would want Dusty servicing anywhere near them? ???
Dustin is big enough to control himself but what I wanna know is who the awesome "mates" are that were with him. Once you could see him getting agitated and arguing wouldn't you get him out of there before it escalated any further? My mates are as irresponsible as most mid 20s when they're blind drunk but even they would have the common sense to do that for me and I'm not a high profile AFL player with a lot to lose
Quote from: quinny88 on December 09, 2015, 11:42:39 PM
Dustin is big enough to control himself but what I wanna know is who the awesome "mates" are that were with him. Once you could see him getting agitated and arguing wouldn't you get him out of there before it escalated any further? My mates are as irresponsible as most mid 20s when they're blind drunk but even they would have the common sense to do that for me and I'm not a high profile AFL player with a lot to lose
I'm pretty sure Dusty is best friends with Dane Swan
I would not be surprised if he was present hahaha
Quote from: powersuperkents on December 10, 2015, 01:40:33 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on December 09, 2015, 11:42:39 PM
Dustin is big enough to control himself but what I wanna know is who the awesome "mates" are that were with him. Once you could see him getting agitated and arguing wouldn't you get him out of there before it escalated any further? My mates are as irresponsible as most mid 20s when they're blind drunk but even they would have the common sense to do that for me and I'm not a high profile AFL player with a lot to lose
I'm pretty sure Dusty is best friends with Dane Swan
I would not be surprised if he was present hahaha
Haha in that case, Swanny had probably buggered off out of there quick smart
Quote from: quinny88 on December 09, 2015, 11:20:20 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on December 09, 2015, 10:19:23 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on December 09, 2015, 07:24:18 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on December 09, 2015, 06:58:18 PM
He would have copped some flack if it had been a man and probably slapped with a fine.
This article I think summaries everything pretty well
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/victims-account-will-shape-richmond-tigers-star-dustin-martins-punishment-20151208-glipay.html
the lady's account makes it seem pretty bad. With the leagues stance on violence against women, I wouldn't be surprised if they made some sort of example out of him, and I wouldn't even disagree with that- it's part of society that should be stamped the flower out, and when you have high profile role models doing stuff like this they should be harshly punished. Richmond imo should ban him from NAB and the first 5-6 weeks of the season, with community service and a fine... hopefully it means there wouldn't be a massive reaction from the AFL... richmond's opening draw isn't too harsh anyway.
I know we're saying 12 months would be ridiculous, but it's not something I would be overly surprised about if they AFL really wanted to send a message. Dustin's 6 ft 2 and weighs over 90kg... someone that size physically intimidating a woman is not appropriate.
Ftr, about Brian Lake
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/star-hawthorn-recruit-brian-lake-issed-infringement-notice-after-drinking-heavily-in-sorrento/story-fnelctok-1226552981484
Him and his wife were having an argument, and they were BOTH fined and BOTH arrested for public drunkenness (had nothing to do with domestic violence or violence against women).
Neither did this.. He didn't lay a hand on her
Threatening a woman and physically cornering her still falls under the category of violence against women
http://www.endvawnow.org/en/articles/295-defining-violence-against-women-and-girls.html
he United Nations defines violence against women as “any act of gender-based violence that results in, or is likely to result in, physical, sexual or psychological harm or suffering to women, including threats of such acts, coercion or arbitrary deprivation of liberty, whether occurring in public or in private life†(General Assembly Resolution 48/104 Declaration on the Elimination of Violence against Women, 1993).
It's an extremely archaic, out of date and close minded view the be like 'all gee mate, he didn't touch her.'
What he did, drunkenly or not, demonstrates an attitude that should be strongly discouraged.
I'm not saying it shouldn't be discouraged. It was stupid and he deserves to be punished as a result but painting it with the same brush as domestic violence or violence against women is an exaggeration. The lady has not pressed charges and accepted his apology, don't think that would be the case if he had of belted her. What he did was stupid, not violent
What he did was to the same effect as actual violence, but without the physical damage- intimidating a woman because of the size difference between them, because she shared a differing opinion to him.
Don't get me wrong, dusty's gotten a bad rap unwarrantedly in the past imo
He's missed training because he was hungover, and had two poor taste goal celebrations, not something he should have been slammed for, and I thought the fines associated with the gestures were kind of unnecessary, but this is on a bigger level.
As I said, I could potentially see the league coming down on him hard... and I think richmond would be well off by beating them to the chase, incase they do something very severe.
Quote from: tbagrocks on December 09, 2015, 11:28:39 PM
Ive heard it said that he should be made to do community service to suffers of violence but, who from those circumstances would want Dusty servicing anywhere near them? ???
community service at the local chinese restraunt? :P
Quote from: quinny88 on December 09, 2015, 11:42:39 PM
Dustin is big enough to control himself but what I wanna know is who the awesome "mates" are that were with him. Once you could see him getting agitated and arguing wouldn't you get him out of there before it escalated any further? My mates are as irresponsible as most mid 20s when they're blind drunk but even they would have the common sense to do that for me and I'm not a high profile AFL player with a lot to lose
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I've gotten super drunk before, but anyone who isn't a massive White Goodman will still step in and defuse a situation when a friend's losing their shower.
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Quote from: Donnie Brasco on December 17, 2015, 03:33:13 PM
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He looks happy and healthy which is good. Dust off the old footy boots and get back out there :P
There's talk he might be headed into the South African jungle for the upcoming season of I'm A Celebrity, Get Me Out Of Here. :o :P
They had Barry Hall last season who was insanely popular (runner up, in fact), only Benny Cousins can and will do better! 8)
is Nathan Drummond still in recovery or whats the news with him will he be playing reserves round 1?
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on December 18, 2015, 12:51:01 AM
is Nathan Drummond still in recovery or whats the news with him will he be playing reserves round 1?
Haven't heard a word about him actually although some of the training videos on the Richmond website I've seen him appearing to train with the main group
Great to see Cus down there, showing Dusty how to behave :o
EDIT: I actually mean that! Couldn't do worse than his "Father" anyway ::)
Quote from: tbagrocks on December 19, 2015, 03:56:55 PM
Great to see Cus down there, showing Dusty how to behave :o
EDIT: I actually mean that! Couldn't do worse than his "Father" anyway ::)
His father lives in a different state and was so angry at Dusty for what he did that he flew down. Someone being a bikie doesn't make them a bad person
Quote from: quinny88 on December 19, 2015, 04:41:51 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on December 19, 2015, 03:56:55 PM
Great to see Cus down there, showing Dusty how to behave :o
EDIT: I actually mean that! Couldn't do worse than his "Father" anyway ::)
His father lives in a different state and was so angry at Dusty for what he did that he flew down. Someone being a bikie doesn't make them a bad person
Wanna bet? Sheesh, why anyone would attempt to stick up for the scum of Western culture is beyond me, sorry
Quote from: tbagrocks on December 19, 2015, 05:00:11 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on December 19, 2015, 04:41:51 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on December 19, 2015, 03:56:55 PM
Great to see Cus down there, showing Dusty how to behave :o
EDIT: I actually mean that! Couldn't do worse than his "Father" anyway ::)
His father lives in a different state and was so angry at Dusty for what he did that he flew down. Someone being a bikie doesn't make them a bad person
Wanna bet? Sheesh, why anyone would attempt to stick up for the scum of Western culture is beyond me, sorry
What?
Dusty's father is an adelaide supporter?!?!
Quote from: tbagrocks on December 19, 2015, 05:00:11 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on December 19, 2015, 04:41:51 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on December 19, 2015, 03:56:55 PM
Great to see Cus down there, showing Dusty how to behave :o
EDIT: I actually mean that! Couldn't do worse than his "Father" anyway ::)
His father lives in a different state and was so angry at Dusty for what he did that he flew down. Someone being a bikie doesn't make them a bad person
Wanna bet? Sheesh, why anyone would attempt to stick up for the scum of Western culture is beyond me, sorry
Did your cat get run over by bikies or something Tbag? You seem to have a chip on your shoulder
Quote from: Ziplock on December 20, 2015, 10:23:14 AM
Quote from: tbagrocks on December 19, 2015, 05:00:11 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on December 19, 2015, 04:41:51 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on December 19, 2015, 03:56:55 PM
Great to see Cus down there, showing Dusty how to behave :o
EDIT: I actually mean that! Couldn't do worse than his "Father" anyway ::)
His father lives in a different state and was so angry at Dusty for what he did that he flew down. Someone being a bikie doesn't make them a bad person
Wanna bet? Sheesh, why anyone would attempt to stick up for the scum of Western culture is beyond me, sorry
What?
Dusty's father is an adelaide supporter?!?!
Hahahahahaha ;D
Quote from: GoLions on December 20, 2015, 03:45:05 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on December 20, 2015, 10:23:14 AM
Quote from: tbagrocks on December 19, 2015, 05:00:11 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on December 19, 2015, 04:41:51 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on December 19, 2015, 03:56:55 PM
Great to see Cus down there, showing Dusty how to behave :o
EDIT: I actually mean that! Couldn't do worse than his "Father" anyway ::)
His father lives in a different state and was so angry at Dusty for what he did that he flew down. Someone being a bikie doesn't make them a bad person
Wanna bet? Sheesh, why anyone would attempt to stick up for the scum of Western culture is beyond me, sorry
What?
Dusty's father is an adelaide supporter?!?!
Hahahahahaha ;D
Man, be careful, I wouldn't laugh at him, he's dangerous.
Not because he's a bikie, but because he supports adelaide... I mean, what other subgroup has such a high chance of curb stomping randoms if they feel insulted?!?!
Pre Season training.
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Quote from: nas on December 21, 2015, 10:12:11 AM
Pre Season training.
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I'd kiss Ivan too :-*
Quote from: quinny88 on December 21, 2015, 03:32:46 PM
Quote from: nas on December 21, 2015, 10:12:11 AM
Pre Season training.
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I'd kiss Ivan too :-*
Quote from: Nige on December 21, 2015, 04:23:11 PM
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Quote from: nas on December 21, 2015, 10:12:11 AM
Pre Season training.
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I'd kiss Ivan too :-*
When are we gonna know about dusty? They said there would be an announcement at the start of the week.. It's now Wednesday afternoon and still nothing?
Quote from: quinny88 on January 06, 2016, 03:20:11 PM
When are we gonna know about dusty? They said there would be an announcement at the start of the week.. It's now Wednesday afternoon and still nothing?
The longer it goes you would think his penalty will be light , if it is the AFL then have to face a barrage from the media that they are condoning violence against women , maybe this might make him grow up
The latest I've heard was there will be an outcome by the end of this week.
Still nothing..
They must be waiting for the wada announcement so dustys story flies under the radar lol
Quote from: quinny88 on January 11, 2016, 12:31:41 PM
Still nothing..
They must be waiting for the wada announcement so dustys story flies under the radar lol
Don't laugh Q I think you have hit the nail on the head ;)
Quote from: shaker on January 11, 2016, 12:42:50 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on January 11, 2016, 12:31:41 PM
Still nothing..
They must be waiting for the wada announcement so dustys story flies under the radar lol
Don't laugh Q I think you have hit the nail on the head ;)
Hopefully that means he's only getting fined ;)
Media more likely to cause a shower storm over just a fine rather than a suspension
Quote from: quinny88 on January 11, 2016, 04:43:00 PM
Quote from: shaker on January 11, 2016, 12:42:50 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on January 11, 2016, 12:31:41 PM
Still nothing..
They must be waiting for the wada announcement so dustys story flies under the radar lol
Don't laugh Q I think you have hit the nail on the head ;)
Hopefully that means he's only getting fined ;)
Media more likely to cause a shower storm over just a fine rather than a suspension
Yes the AFL are really in a no win position with this one
Looks like dusty will be free to play round 1 which is good news for tigers fans and SuperCoach fans
http://m.afl.com.au/news/2016-01-14/martin-to-be-cleared.mobileapp
Confirmed he's free to play :) suspended $5000 fine.
So many people having a cry about it but hard to argue when there's a police investigation, AFL investigation and club investigation that involved looking at CCTV footage, witness interviews etc then clearly the whole thing was blown up if they came back with nothing other than a suspended fine. And to think Bartlett wanted him to get 12 months ::)
Quote from: quinny88 on January 14, 2016, 10:12:24 PM
Confirmed he's free to play :) suspended $5000 fine.
So many people having a cry about it but hard to argue when there's a police investigation, AFL investigation and club investigation that involved looking at CCTV footage, witness interviews etc then clearly the whole thing was blown up if they came back with nothing other than a suspended fine. And to think Bartlett wanted him to get 12 months ::)
Exactly mate. Blown way out
Rance and Titch elevated to the leadership group. Lids, Ivan and Cotch remain a part of it with Cotch still skipper.
Quote from: quinny88 on January 14, 2016, 10:12:24 PM
Confirmed he's free to play :) suspended $5000 fine.
So many people having a cry about it but hard to argue when there's a police investigation, AFL investigation and club investigation that involved looking at CCTV footage, witness interviews etc then clearly the whole thing was blown up if they came back with nothing other than a suspended fine. And to think Bartlett wanted him to get 12 months ::)
Waste of taxpayer money, the AFL's time and money, and the Richmond football club's time. All because some gratuitously outraged people (who most likely don't even watch AFL, but for all we know could hate the sport) wanted to make Dusty the face of violence against woman.
Richmond are obviously just giving him the fine because they would receive negative PR from the people who are complaining about Dusty's conduct (and also to make sure Dusty won't do something like this again) - it was good to see that the club backed him because with some athletes things get blown excessively out of proportion - waiting until after the WADA verdict was a good move as well.
Quote from: powersuperkents on January 15, 2016, 10:50:00 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on January 14, 2016, 10:12:24 PM
Confirmed he's free to play :) suspended $5000 fine.
So many people having a cry about it but hard to argue when there's a police investigation, AFL investigation and club investigation that involved looking at CCTV footage, witness interviews etc then clearly the whole thing was blown up if they came back with nothing other than a suspended fine. And to think Bartlett wanted him to get 12 months ::)
Waste of taxpayer money, the AFL's time and money, and the Richmond football club's time. All because some gratuitously outraged people (who most likely don't even watch AFL, but for all we know could hate the sport)that's just conjecture- personally if I'd seen an AFL player acting the way Martin was reported to, I would have taken the same action and I love the sport wanted to make Dusty the face of violence against woman.
Richmond are obviously just giving him the fine because they would receive negative PR from the people who are complaining about Dusty's conduct (and also to make sure Dusty won't do something like this again) - it was good to see that the club backed him because with some athletes things get blown excessively out of proportion - waiting until after the WADA verdict was a good move as well.
If Dustin physically stood over the woman as reported as he abused her, then imo he should have copped weeks.
If he didn't, then I agree that a fine is appropriate for misconduct for being blind drunk and obscene.
I do find it strange that he never denied standing over her though (albeit, it could be that he didn't remember the incident or that he was advised to to talk about it).
Personally, I think they've used the WADA case to sweep it under the rug, which I don't agree with.
I'd love to look at the footage though- don't see why that wouldn't be a problem if he wasn't physically threatening her :P
If the police and AFL investigation came back with nothing then I daresay that the situation "as reported" was not how the situation actually played out Zip.
Quote from: Toga on January 17, 2016, 03:50:01 AM
If the police and AFL investigation came back with nothing then I daresay that the situation "as reported" was not how the situation actually played out Zip.
lol or it was just covered up
This woman went on tv saying he threatened to stab her with chopsticks if that is not true why is not the heat being applied to her for telling porkies ?
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on January 17, 2016, 04:10:55 AM
lol or it was just covered up
We live in Australia, not corrupt central America. The police (& AFL) did a thorough investigation including looking at CCTV footage. Move on :)
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on January 17, 2016, 04:10:55 AM
Quote from: Toga on January 17, 2016, 03:50:01 AM
If the police and AFL investigation came back with nothing then I daresay that the situation "as reported" was not how the situation actually played out Zip.
lol or it was just covered up
Quote from: shaker on January 17, 2016, 09:33:18 AM
This woman went on tv saying he threatened to stab her with chopsticks if that is not true why is not the heat being applied to her for telling porkies ?
It's just CCTV footage in a restaurant- there probably isn't audio, so if nobody else heard him say it, then he can't really be charged if there's no evidence (which is fair enough in our justice system).
If he's standing over her and intimidating her though... I don't think that constitutes police action, but it falls well into the realms of violence against women and he should have been sanctioned.
I'd be pretty surprised if she lied about that, since it's so easy to verify via footage and she could cop a fine for making shower up. If they weren't attempting to cover it up then they wouldn't have released the sanction immediately after the essendon handdown, and it's all fabricated then I'm pretty sure they would have found someway to leak the footage to show dusty didn't do anything.
But whatever, it's over now.
Quote from: Toga on January 17, 2016, 11:56:07 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on January 17, 2016, 04:10:55 AM
lol or it was just covered up
We live in Australia, not corrupt central America. The police (& AFL) did a thorough investigation including looking at CCTV footage. Move on :)
You get a surprising amount of corruption/ dodgy shower happening in Australia as well.
Quote from: Toga on January 17, 2016, 11:56:07 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on January 17, 2016, 04:10:55 AM
lol or it was just covered up
We live in Australia, not corrupt central America. The police (& AFL) did a thorough investigation including looking at CCTV footage. Move on :)
lol please
Quote from: Toga on January 17, 2016, 11:56:07 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on January 17, 2016, 04:10:55 AM
lol or it was just covered up
We live in Australia, not corrupt central America. The police (& AFL) did a thorough investigation including looking at CCTV footage. Move on :)
I think he's right Toga, being an Essendon fan he'd know a thing or 2 about cover ups. :D
She's a bullshower artist plain and simple.. She said he punched the wall next to her head which never happened and she said he threatened to kill her but not 1 witness said that was the case.
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on January 17, 2016, 05:14:49 PM
Quote from: Toga on January 17, 2016, 11:56:07 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on January 17, 2016, 04:10:55 AM
lol or it was just covered up
We live in Australia, not corrupt central America. The police (& AFL) did a thorough investigation including looking at CCTV footage. Move on :)
I think he's right Toga, being an Essendon fan he'd know a thing or 2 about cover ups. :D
flower off
Quote from: quinny88 on January 17, 2016, 08:53:48 PM
She's a bullshower artist plain and simple.. She said he punched the wall next to her head which never happened and she said he threatened to kill her but not 1 witness said that was the case.
She should get jail time if this is true
Quote from: Big Mac on January 17, 2016, 09:15:49 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on January 17, 2016, 08:53:48 PM
She's a bullshower artist plain and simple.. She said he punched the wall next to her head which never happened and she said he threatened to kill her but not 1 witness said that was the case.
She should get jail time if this is true
Yeah she's a woman and a "victim" though.
Sounds like Matty Dea is gonna be signed as a top up player for the Bombers.
Hopefully people get to see how good he actually is now and he gets back on a list in 2017.
Anyone have any idea where Yarran is likely to play next year? Id probably of thought he'd play off halfback but at Richmond he might be needed in the forward line more?
Quote from: iZander on January 24, 2016, 11:33:27 AM
Anyone have any idea where Yarran is likely to play next year? Id probably of thought he'd play off halfback but at Richmond he might be needed in the forward line more?
Most interviews I've watched where he has been mentioned have indicated him playing across half back but think he will be thrown around a bit between half back/wing/half forward.
Keep an eye out during the nab challenge