AXVS 2014/2015 TRADE TABLE
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Welcome to this year's trade discussion thread everyone!!
Please use this template to fill out what your plans are for the upcoming trade period. You don't need to fill it out, but it would be good if other coaches could see your plans easily set out.
OUR PLAYERSON THE CHOPPING BLOCK: (Likely to delist or throw in to sweeten a deal)ON THE TABLE: (Looking to trade this player for a fair deal)COULD BE PERSUADED: (Would need a ripper deal to let these players go)UNTOUCHABLE: (Not available for trade no way no how)DRAFT PICKS: (Draft picks available for trade)
TARGET PLAYERSDefenders:
Midfielders:
Ruckmen:
Forwards:
Draft Picks:This will remain a trade discussion thread. Actual trades will be posted and processed in the Official Trade Thread, once that is posted. The Trade Period will not open until after the season has ended, and any potential rule changes voted on, so no trades you post will be binding until that time. You are free to discuss trades and make gentlemen's agreements for now.
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I'll update the start of this thread a bit more in the coming days so everyone can get a quick glance at what each club is looking to trade, and who they are targeting.
PNG Head Hunters
ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK: (Likely to delist or throw in to sweeten a deal)
Tyson Goldsack, Spud McMahon
ON THE TABLE: (Looking to trade this player for a fair deal)
Robbie Tarrant, Jeremy Laidler, Simon White, Ben Sinclair, Lachlan Plowman, Ed Curnow, David Mackay, Viv Michie, Brant College, Jarryd Blair, Michael Close, Zac Clarke, Trent West, Keenan Ramsey(rookie), Jacob Ballard(rookie)
COULD BE PERSUADED: (Would need a ripper deal to let these players go)
Lee Spurr, Shane Biggs, Paul Seedsman, Alex Browne, Mav Weller, Darcy Lang, Alec Waterman, Harry Cunningham, Hayden Crozier, Ben Lennon, Andrew Phillips, Rory Atkins(rookie), Cameron Ellis-Yolmen(rookie), Daniel Robinson(rookie), Martin Gleeson(rookie)
UNTOUCHABLE: (Not available for trade no way no how)
Marley Williams, Tom Rockliff, Dyson Heppell, Touk Miller, Alex Neal-Bullen, Lachie Weller, Nathan Freeman, Jamie Elliott, Tom Bell, Jack Billings, Lachie Hunter, Rhys Stanley, Mitchell Grigg, Tom Nicholls,
DRAFT PICKS: (Draft picks available for trade)
Won't be trading 1st rounder but others would be considered in deals
TARGET PLAYERS
Looking for young defenders and one or two under 25 up and coming mids.
Vietnam Vipers
ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK: (Likely to delist or throw in to sweeten a deal)
Chris Judd, Robbie Warnock
ON THE TABLE: (Looking to trade this player for a fair deal)
Tony Armstrong, C.Byrne(Rookie), C.Hanley(Rookie), Jake Batchelor(Rookie), Billie Smedts, Gary Rohan, Ed Vickers-Willis, Nick Suban, Kane Lucas, Matt Jones, J.Sinclair(Rookie), Lloyd Perris(Rookie), Ricky Petterd, Patick McKenna, Sam Blease,
COULD BE PERSUADED: (Would need a ripper deal to let these players go)
Jeremy Howe, Nick Haynes, Chris Yarran, Zac Jones, Tom Jonas, Mitch McGovern, Nick Newman(Rookie), Mark Hutchings, Jake Melksam, David Myers, Mark Whiley, Nick Robertson, C.Ellis, Matt Leuenberger, Matt Wright, Ben Reid, Jeff Garlett, Taylor Garner, Cam McCarthy,
UNTOUCHABLE: (Not available for trade no way no how)
Luke Parker, Stephen Hill, Dom Tyson, Josh Kelly, Christian Petracca, Mark Blicvas, Brandon Matera, Allen Christensen, Jeremy McGovern, Michael Apeness,
DRAFT PICKS: (Draft picks available for trade)
Won't be trading 1st rounder but others would be considered in deals
TARGET PLAYERS
Looking for young players, premiums, but will depend on what you want
Dongers
ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK: (Likely to delist or throw in to sweeten a deal)
Dustin Fletcher, Chris Newman, Hamish McIntosh, Lachie Keeffe, Jordie McKenzie,
ON THE TABLE: (Looking to trade this player for a fair deal)
Clinton Young, Lynden Dunn, Greg Broughton, Luke McPharlin, Will Schofield, Nev Jetta, Matt Thomas, Mark Jamar, Hahden. Ballantyne, David Hale, Aaron Young
COULD BE PERSUADED: (Would need a ripper deal to let these players go)
Luke Russell, Dizzy Gardiner, Michael Rischitelli, Matt Goodyear, Jack Leslie, Lance Franklin, Paul Puopolo, Kane Mitchell, Jarrod Grant, Ryan Schoenmakers, Spencer White,
UNTOUCHABLE: (Not available for trade no way no how)
Darcy Byrne-Jones, Liam Dawson, Dan Howe, Jack Redden, Jarrod Pickett, Tom Sheridan, George Hewitt, Billy Hartung, Connor Menadue, Jack Hiscox, Danyle Pearce, Travis Colyer, Karl Amon
DRAFT PICKS: (Draft picks available for trade)
Not super keen on trading draft picks but I could be convinced
TARGET PLAYERS
A young decent ruckman with good game time
Young players
Draft picks.
All players are on the table except probably Grundy/Witts.
If you're coming after GAJ, Beams, Pendles, Libba, Bennell, Sidey, Darling, Dahlhaus, Shaw then don't low ball the offer. For these boys it needs to be worth our while or we won't even consider it :)
But yeh really keen to talk trades as always :D
The Tibetan Llama Football Club
OUR PLAYERS
ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK: (Likely to delist or throw in to sweeten a deal)
Luke Brown, Jackson Ramsey, Eli Templeton, Brodie Murdoch
ON THE TABLE: (Looking to trade this player for a fair deal)
Jake Fitzpatrick, Andy Otten, Jarryd Lyons, James Gwilt, Jarred Hardisty, Clay Smith, Dan Gorringe, Shane Kersten
COULD BE PERSUADED: (Would need a ripper deal to let these players go)
Levi Casboult, Troy Menzel, Richie Douglas, Bradley Hill, Michael Talia, Steve May
UNTOUCHABLE: (Not available for trade no way no how)
Chad Wingrd, Tommy Lynch, Jeremy Cameron, Ben Kennedy, Dev Smith, Aaron Vandenberg Jeremy Finlayson, Matt Hammelman, Mitch Harvey, Jack Thurlow, Rory Laird, Jasper Pittard, Elliot Yeo, Matt the Shag, Jake Lever, Zac Smith, Jake Spenser, Maxi Gawn, Dom Sheed, Liam Duggan, Jack Macrae, Angus Brayshaw, Jack Viney, Lachie Neale, Jack Trengove, Jay Kennedy-harris, the Jarman Nephew, Tim O'Brien
DRAFT PICKS: (Draft picks available for trade)
All, need good player for first round AND pick though
TARGET PLAYERS
Defenders:
Midfielders:
After one good midfielder!
Ruckmen:
Forwards:
Draft Picks:
Not after any at all!
OUR PLAYERS
ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK: (Likely to delist or throw in to sweeten a deal)
Jed Adcock, Matthew Watson, Tanner Smith, Sam Schulz
ON THE TABLE: (Looking to trade this player for a fair deal)
Brodie Smith, Rory Thompson, Seb Tape, Sam Frost, Matt Spangher, Dan McKenzie, Damien Cavka, Josh Glenn, Jayden Short, Ahmed Saad, Michael Barlow, Matt White, Nick Kommer
COULD BE PERSUADED: (Would need a ripper deal to let these players go)
Eric Mackenzie, Jarryn Geary, Ryan Harwood, Tom McDonald, Ben Stratton, Kyle Cheney, Alex Woodward, Jordan De Goey, Darcy Moore, Dean Gore, Billy Longer, Tom Hickey, Jarryd Roughead, Stewart Crameri, Aaron Hall, Alex Fasolo, Josh Green, Hugh Goddard
UNTOUCHABLE: (Not available for trade no way no how)
Travis Boak, Dion Prestia, Ollie Wines, Dylan Shiel, Liam Shiels, Todd Goldstein, Tex Walker, Shane Edwards, Josh J Kennedy
DRAFT PICKS: (Draft picks available for trade)
All
TARGET PLAYERS
Starting defenders
Maybe a starting forward
Not really on the market for much else.
Everyone available except Jesse Hogan
OUR PLAYERS
ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK: (Likely to delist or throw in to sweeten a deal)
Dean Terlich, Jamie Bennell, Tom Derickx, Patrick McGinnity.
ON THE TABLE: (Looking to trade this player for a fair deal)
Travis Varcoe, Zac Tuohy, Sam Colquhoun, Nathan Wright, Sam Wright, Nick Holman, Jonathan Marsh, Tom Campbell, Dean Kent, Brandon Jack, Dean Towers, Jayden Foster, Jaden McGrath, Ben Griffiths, Cameron Wood, Michael Manteit, Brad Walsh.
COULD BE PERSUADED: (Would need a ripper deal to let these players go)
Nick Vlastuin, Zac Williams, Tom Cutler, Brayden Maynard, Will Langford, Cameron Guthrie, Connor Blakely, Jake Barrett, Nick Graham, Jackson Nelson, Tory Dickson, Tom Boyd, Jayden Laverde, Jordan Murdoch, Mitch Honeychurch, Tom Lamb, Kayne Turner, Mason Wood.
UNTOUCHABLE: (Not available for trade no way no how)
Josh Caddy, Stephen Coniglio, Isaac Heeney, Jack Steele, Matt Kreuzer, Tom Boyd, Jamie Cripps
DRAFT PICKS: (Draft picks available for trade)
If the price is right
TARGET PLAYERS
Midfielders
First Round Draft Picks
So an eager coach has already come to me knowing I usually operate on a first in, best dressed policy for a deal involving Michael Barlow, Brodie Smith and Daniel McKenzie.
If you've got interest in them, hit me up sooner rather than later. :)
Kathmandu Eskimos
ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK: (These guys will be de-listed unless you want to take them as a sweetener)
P.Stewart (66), D.Howard (0)
ON THE TABLE: (I don't mind whether these players are on my list next season or not. If you want any please enquire me)
M.Firrito (71), J.Trengove (59) A.Silvagni (57)
Lewis Jetta (106), Ben Howlett (100), Tendai Mzungu (87), A.Boston (73, r), A.Morabito (0, r)
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L.Thomas (87), B.Dale (45), T.Elton (22)
N27
COULD BE PERSUADED: (I would rather have this lot on my list next season, I will listen to offers though)
C.Garland (83), J.Hombsch (77), S.Rowe (64), H.Schade (51, r)
Liam Picken (133), Isaac Smith (127), Levi Greenwood (112)
William Frampton (0, r), Daniel Currie (0), Sam Durdin (0)
C.Pedersen (88), O.Fantasia (87), L.Henderson (84), C.Dawes (75), J.Rose (73), R.Knight (71)
N11, R11, R27, R43, R59, R75
UNTOUCHABLE: (Seriously, unlike other teams, this means do not bother asking)
James Kelly, Taylor Duryea, Sam Wright
Dan Hannebery, Andrew Gaff, Brad Ebert, Sam Gray (r)
Paddy Ryder
Eddie Betts, Luke Breust
TARGET PLAYERS
Defenders:
Wouldn't mind an 80+ back.
Midfielders:
No need for anyone here
Ruckmen:
Matthew Lobbe still, someone give BB67th another ruckman please.
Forwards:
Believe it or not, I am taking offers for a 90+ forward.
Draft Picks:
I want one draft pick in the first round, so unless I am offered one, you can't take mine. Other than that I have no intentions in grabbing extra draft picks, I have the ones I require to make my upgrades and complete my senior lists.
I see a few people chasing defenders. We have plenty down at KL
Malceski, SBurgoyne, HShaw, Roberton, Rosa, Wellingham, Enright, Savage, Frawley, Patfull, Jimmy Webster, DGrimes, CAdamson, Pears, TMiles, Frost, Hughes and potentially (unlikely but just maybe) Dal Santo.
We're after forwards and mids
Bangkok Crabs
We don't usually do one of these as all our players are up for discussion and are available for trade for the right price. We decided to do one this year to gauge where our minds are early. As I said, all players are up for discussion (yes, even the Untouchables). Makes it easier for us to track at the end of the trade periods. As always, message Nostra and I if someone catches your eye.
ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK: (Likely to delist or throw in to sweeten a deal)
B. McKenzie, T. Curren, X. Ellis, K. Jaksch, R. Lester
ON THE TABLE: (Looking to trade this player for a fair deal)
S. Atley, B. Whitecross, J. Impey, J. Carlisle, J. Daniher, D. Menzel, D. Markworth (rook), L. Dalgleish (rook), S. Shaw (rook), X. Richards (rook), A. Kennedy (rook)
COULD BE PERSUADED: (Would need a ripper deal to let these players go)
D. Swallow, T. Hawkins, M. Robinson, H. Wigg, J. Lonergan, S. Ross, T. Dumont, N. Vardy, T. Nankervis, S. Naismith, T. Broomhead, N. Cockatoo, J. Garlett, D. McKenzie, B. Lennon
UNTOUCHABLE: (Not available for trade no way no how)
M. Hibberd, S. Docherty, K. Kolodjashnij, T. Cotchin, A. Treloar, J. O'Meara, B. Crouch, N. Naitanui, S. Motlop, T. Adams, M. Crouch, J. Stringer, Z. Merrett, E. Yeo
DRAFT PICKS: (Draft picks available for trade): all draft picks available for trade
TARGET PLAYERS
Could trade a defender or two plus our ADP #7 plus others for one good midfielder!
Scharenberg, Otten, Yeo, Mick Talia, Steven May, Pittard, Ramsey,
Or draft picks plus a midfielder Trengove, Duggan, Clay Smith, Lyons, Douglas, Vandenberg
Just after one god midfielder here folks!
Happy to start talking trades, lads. Not looking to move any of my big guns (Sloane, Ward, Jacobs, Bont), but some other best XV type players are on the table if you are interested - Kade Simpson, Andrew Mackie, SD Thompson, Heath Grundy, Ben McGlynn.
Chuck me a message if you're keen :)
Really keen to pick up more young midfielders.
They don't have to be guns already - I just need more midfielders on my list in general.
So if you have any to trade let me know.
/start rant
You guys that don't post your squad in the appropriate format and just mention half your players are just lazy. If you don't want to do it can you at least post a link to an updated squad list. Even if you don't feel like trading at all, it's courtesy and shows an element of care for your job as coach.
/end rant
Quote from: PowerBug on August 29, 2015, 04:37:42 PM
/start rant
You guys that don't post your squad in the appropriate format and just mention half your players are just lazy. If you don't want to do it can you at least post a link to an updated squad list. Even if you don't feel like trading at all, it's courtesy and shows an element of care for your job as coach.
/end rant
#shotsfired
Great to see some trade discussions starting.
As PB said (in quite different terms :P ) it would be great to see everyone using the trade template from the opening post to post up their squad, just as a courtesy so other coaches can identify trade targets more easily.
Also, after round 23 concludes, I will also be compiling a spreadsheet with the score of every player in the competition from every game this season, so it will have player averages in it, which will make it easier to see what players are worth. It might be worth some coaches waiting a little to see just how well their players have done before locking in any trades. Regardless, the official trade thread won't be opening until after I've posted this spreadsheet up anyway. So be on the lookout for that in the week following our Grand Final!
Quote from: BB67th on August 30, 2015, 05:08:00 PM
Also, after round 23 concludes, I will also be compiling a spreadsheet with the score of every player in the competition from every game this season, so it will have player averages in it, which will make it easier to see what players are worth. It might be worth some coaches waiting a little to see just how well their players have done before locking in any trades. Regardless, the official trade thread won't be opening until after I've posted this spreadsheet up anyway. So be on the lookout for that in the week following our Grand Final!
Part of me says that this is a bad idea and coaches should do their own research.
But the other XVs games have the scores readily available for people on an external site, which we don't have, so doing this is only fair. I don't tihnk it should be a requirement to work out the averages of players across the season.
OUR PLAYERS
ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK: (Likely to delist or throw in to sweeten a deal)
Rhyce Shaw, James Podsiadly
ON THE TABLE: (Looking to trade this player for a fair deal)
Kade Simpson, Andrew Mackie, Ben McGlynn, Scott D. Thompson, Heath Grundy, Jackson Paine, James Stewart, Allir Aliir, Jordan Kelly, Danny Stanley
COULD BE PERSUADED: (Would need a ripper deal to let these players go)
Bernie Vince, Andrejs Everitt, Matt Suckling, Reece Conca, Dale Thomas, Mitch Golby, Nathan Hrovat, Blake Acres, Jed Lamb, Sam Darley, Kyle Langford, Will Hoskin-Elliot, Matt de Boer, Jason Tutt, Tom Barrass, Alex Johnson, Rhys Palmer, Cam Shenton, Billy Evans
UNTOUCHABLE: (Not available for trade no way no how)
Rory Sloane, Sam Jacobs, Marcus Bontempelli, Kieren Jack, Callan Ward, Tom Scully, Justin Westhoff, Jason Johanissen, Curtly Hampton, Michael Walters, Brad Sheppard, Scott Selwood, Callum Sinclair, Scott Lycett, Marco Paparone
DRAFT PICKS: (Draft picks available for trade)
All
TARGET PLAYERS
Either young players, or someone that will improve our best XV. Nothing inbetween. Also not opposed to trading for draft picks.
Hey BB/Ric just for reference would this be the draft order for the first two rounds at the moment? The last couple of positions obviously undecided pending the grand final result.
We go off the finals positions right not the ladder for the draft? Also there are no priority picks in Asians are there?
1. Manila Folders
2. Vietnam Vipers
3. Taiwan Dolphins
4. Honk Kong Dongs
5. PNG Head Hunters
6. Turkish Gazelles
7. Tibetan Llamas
8. Bangkok Crabs
9. KL Crocodiles
10. Bangladesh Bears
11. Kathmandu Eskimos
12. Australian Ales
13. Sri Lanka Strikers
14. UAE Tigers
15. Mongolian Lambs/Laos Elephants
16. Mongolian Lambs/Laos Elephants
17. Manila Folders
18. Vietnam Vipers
19. Taiwan Dolphins
20. Honk Kong Dongs
21. PNG Head Hunters
22. Turkish Gazelles
23. Tibetan Llamas
24. Bangkok Crabs
25. KL Crocodiles
26. Bangladesh Bears
27. Kathmandu Eskimos
28. Australian Ales
29. Sri Lanka Strikers
30. UAE Tigers
31. Mongolian Lambs/Laos Elephants
32. Mongolian Lambs/Laos Elephants
Yeh order is based on Finals.
And on Priority Picks
QuotePRIORITY PICKS: FUTURE SEASONS.
Teams finishing with 2 wins or fewer (8 Premiership points or fewer, before any penalties have been taken into effect) will recieve 2 addidional draft picks after the first full round of the national draft. BUT DOES NOT BEGIN UNTIL AFTER THE 2014 AFL SEASON ( 1st season = no priority picks)
But i'd like to see this change to be similar to worlds. The more lenient we are on priority picks the quicker bottom teams can rebound
Looking over the team lists and noticed this Adamant
Quote from: Adamant on February 19, 2014, 11:42:42 PM
Bangladesh Bears (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,66883.0.html) - Adamant (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php?action=profile;u=6096)
Def: A Walker (Carl), P Duffield (Freo), J Grimes (Melb), G Ibbotson (Freo), C Sutcliffe (Freo), L Hansen (NM), B Goodes (WB), B Jacobs (NM), J Rivers (Geel), T Mohr (GWS), A Carlile (Port), J Bews (Geel), T Clurey (Port)
Mid: J Selwood (Geel), N Fyfe (Freo), M Boyd (WB), S Mitchell (Haw), K Cornes (Port), B Cunnington (NM), D Cross (Melb), A Carrazzo (Carl), R Crowley (Freo), A Raines (GC)
Ruck: B McEvoy (Haw), A Sandilands (Freo)
Fwd: N Riewoldt (StK), B Harvey (NM), M LeCras (WC), C Rioli (Haw), M Pavlich (Freo), J Patton (GWS), C Sylvia (Freo), J Toumpas (Melb), C Daniel (WB), S Kerridge (Adel), B Staker (Bris), J White (Coll), M Shaw (Port), E Langdon (Freo), L McGuane (Rich)
Rookie List: J Ceglar (Haw), S Tunbridge (WC), M White (Melb), W Fordham (NM), J Long (Ess), J Hamling (WB)
A whopping 7 from one team :o
Most of them aren't big losses, but man that's unlucky
Don't forget about Waters before the season had even started. :(
But yeah we're going to need a fair cleanout this pre-season. Cross would have been quite handy as a defender next year.
and McGuane just retired as well, makes it 9 :o
I daresay Brett Goodes might as well be added to that list. :-X
and possibly Crowley
And Crowley out suspended :o
Could have easily been Boomer on that list also
And NROO, and Boyd, and Smitch, and Walker and Duffield.
The Bears are going to have a few gaping holes in their team in a few years if they don't do something in the next few off-seasons.
Quote from: Memphistopheles on September 03, 2015, 04:07:35 PM
And NROO, and Boyd, and Smitch, and Walker and Duffield.
The Bears are going to have a few gaping holes in their team in a few years if they don't do something in the next few off-seasons.
Settle, we're only looking at this year. :P
Quote from: Ricochet on September 03, 2015, 04:01:53 PM
Could have easily been Boomer on that list also
Eh, I think Boomer was always gonna go on, at least the BXVs coach in me was hoping and praying so.
Now that the season is over! Lots of depth for poorer teams that I am happy to move for cheap.
OUR PLAYERS
ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK: (Likely to delist or throw in to sweeten a deal)
T.Bugg, N.Smith, T.Chaplin, M.Dea, T.Logan, A.Moore, C.Moller, C.Knights, D.Armfield, Cl.Cameron, K.Hartigan, M.Newman, M.Duffy
ON THE TABLE: (Looking to trade this player for a fair deal)
R.Murphy, A.Rance, A.Mullett, C.O'Shea, S.Johnson, S.Thompson, A.Cooney, N.vanBerlo, M.Pyke, J.Giles, J.Schulz, D.Petrie, N.Gordon, J.Sicily, Ch.Cameron
COULD BE PERSUADED: (Would need a ripper deal to let these players go)
M.Priddis, B.Stanton, M.Murphy, J.McVeigh, L.Montagna, L.Dunstan, G.Horlin-Smith, T.Hunt, J.Bartel
UNTOUCHABLE: (Not available for trade no way no how)
B.Houli, H.Hartlett, P.Hanley, K.Tippett, T.Lynch, C.Dixon
DRAFT PICKS: (Draft picks available for trade)
All
TARGET PLAYERS
Defenders
Ruckmen
On the trade table:
Def: M Jaensch (Adel), J Newnes (StK), T McKenzie (GC), S Mayes (Bris), C Hooker (Ess), M Broadbent (Port), S Butler (WC), M Buntine (GWS), P Davis (GWS), J Roughead (WB), C Sheehan (Carl)
Mid: , L Shuey (WC), C Masten (WC), D Armitage (StK), D Wells (NM), J Aish (Bris), H Hocking (Ess), M Hallahan (GC)
Ruck: , S Hampson (Rich), S Grimley (Haw)
Fwd: , A Monfries (Port), A Tomlinson (GWS), L Taylor (Bris), S Reid (Syd), J Crisp (Coll), L Jones (Carl), A Sexton (GC), L Sumner (GWS), J Freeman (Bris), J Lonie (StK)
Rookie List: S Tatupu (Haw), M Dick (Syd), D Wilsmore (Haw), B Gowers (Carl), C McKenna (Ess), Justin Clarke (Bris)
I wouldn't mind a top 20 draft pick for Hill, Otten, Trengove, Douglas or Lyons? ???
Just a short announcement
Rids and l will both be off the air until after Grand Final weekend .......... wanted to let you all know so you don't think we're rude for not answering any pm's.
We've done a heap of trades in both EXV and BXV and are very happy with how things are sitting at the moment.
AXV hasn't started trading yet, but thats ok we'll just pick the ball back up there when we return......so if you have any offers send them through, but bear in mind they won't be dealt with until we're back.
Cheers guys ........ we're just going to chill for the next couple of weeks and enjoy the rest of the finals series 8)
Who wants Lindsay Thomas?
Everyone is on the chopping block except for;
Patrick Dangerfield
Brandon Ellis
Michael Hurley
Josh P Kennedy
Need: Draft picks, Forwards, Defenders, Midfielders, Ruckman, Bench Players i.e EVERYTHING
Let the arguing begin :P That Brodie Smith trade is just ridiculous. Needs to be taken a long, hard look at imo.
Quote from: Jayman on September 20, 2015, 10:35:01 PM
Let the arguing begin :P That Brodie Smith trade is just ridiculous. Needs to be taken a long, hard look at imo.
Probably about time I fill one of these out.
Manila Folders
OUR PLAYERS
ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK: (Likely to delist or throw in to sweeten a deal)
Sam Dwyer, Harrison Marsh
ON THE TABLE: (Looking to trade this player for a fair deal)
Rohan Bewick, Brian Lake, Sam Gilbert, Daniel Merrett, Sean Lemmens, David Astbury, Jon O'Rourke, Jake Neade, Brodie Martin, Josh Saunders, Josh Hill, Claye Beams, Josh Walker, James Harmes, Archie Smith
COULD BE PERSUADED: (Would need a ripper deal to let these players go)
Michael Johnson, Ricky Henderson, Dylan Buckley, Alex Pearce, Sam Gibson, Paul Ahern, Jamie MacMillan, Blaine Boekhorst, Billy Stretch, Matthew Lobbe (would need a ruck in return), Jack Hannath, Mitch Clark, Jarrad Waite, Craig Bird, Josh Jenkins, Jake Lloyd, Toby McLean, Lukas Webb, Patrick Ambrose, Harris Andrews
UNTOUCHABLE: (Not available for trade no way no how)
Bryce Gibbs, Patrick Cripps, Dayne Zorko, Paddy McCartin, Christian Salem
DRAFT PICKS: (Draft picks available for trade)
Probably looking to hold on to pick #1, but it and all the other picks could go for the right price
TARGET PLAYERS
Looking for young talent across all lines, especially defence and midfield.
Quote from: Jayman on September 20, 2015, 10:35:01 PM
Let the arguing begin :P That Brodie Smith trade is just ridiculous. Needs to be taken a long, hard look at imo.
haha it wasn't going to take long. If we break it down. ..
Nige rates Roberton higher than Smith
Barlow is 29 next year, compared to a much younger KMac who has had a pretty impressive first full season, cementing his spot in the Tigers side. Lloyd is fwd depth that scores well when he plays.
Quote from: Ricochet on September 20, 2015, 10:49:46 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 20, 2015, 10:35:01 PM
Let the arguing begin :P That Brodie Smith trade is just ridiculous. Needs to be taken a long, hard look at imo.
haha it wasn't going to take long. If we break it down. ..
Nige rates Roberton higher than Smith
Barlow is 29 next year, compared to a much younger KMac who has had a pretty impressive first full season, cementing his spot in the Tigers side. Lloyd is fwd depth that scores well when he plays.
I love my Tigers as much as any but wowsers.
Lloyd isnt even contracted for next year yet and McIntosh has had an ok first year. Wont be long though till his turnovers cost him his JS especially with kids like Menadue and CEllis.
Nice early one up for discussion haha!
Quote from: Rids on September 20, 2015, 11:03:24 PM
I love my Tigers as much as any but wowsers.
Lloyd isnt even contracted for next year yet and McIntosh has had an ok first year. Wont be long though till his turnovers cost him his JS especially with kids like Menadue and CEllis.
Nice early one up for discussion haha!
As a Tigers fan myself, I'm perfectly aware of that. I'm acquiring both as depth because I believe they're solid enough in that regard. The trade is mainly for Roberton who I need to improve my defenders.
On that note, I'm gonna entertain the idea of tabling Travis Boak for a premium defender, happy to keep him if I don't get a deal I'm happy with.
Quote from: Nige on September 20, 2015, 11:08:36 PM
Quote from: Rids on September 20, 2015, 11:03:24 PM
I love my Tigers as much as any but wowsers.
Lloyd isnt even contracted for next year yet and McIntosh has had an ok first year. Wont be long though till his turnovers cost him his JS especially with kids like Menadue and CEllis.
Nice early one up for discussion haha!
As a Tigers fan myself, I'm perfectly aware of that. I'm acquiring both as depth because I believe they're solid enough in that regard. The trade is mainly for Roberton who I need to improve my defenders.
But why do you need to give up Michael Barlow for two depth players? There's really not that much in it between Smith and Roberton.
Barlow for 2 depth players with limited job security I dont get sorry but each to their own.
Quote from: Jayman on September 20, 2015, 11:11:21 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 20, 2015, 11:08:36 PM
Quote from: Rids on September 20, 2015, 11:03:24 PM
I love my Tigers as much as any but wowsers.
Lloyd isnt even contracted for next year yet and McIntosh has had an ok first year. Wont be long though till his turnovers cost him his JS especially with kids like Menadue and CEllis.
Nice early one up for discussion haha!
As a Tigers fan myself, I'm perfectly aware of that. I'm acquiring both as depth because I believe they're solid enough in that regard. The trade is mainly for Roberton who I need to improve my defenders.
But why do you need to give up Michael Barlow for two depth players? There's really not that much in it between Smith and Roberton.
Barlow's surplus to requirements with the amount of mids I have.
Barlow, Boak, Wines, Prestia, Shiels, Shiel, Whitfield, Edwards, Hall, De Goey.
10 mids all worthy of starting, only 6 spots. I'm confident downgrading Barlow to Kamdyn won't affect my team because I believe Whitfield/Edwards/Hall/De Goey are or will be good enough to replace him.
I wouldn't be making the trade if I hadn't thought about the repercussions for my team and quite frankly, I don't think they're that big.
Quote from: Nige on September 20, 2015, 11:18:36 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 20, 2015, 11:11:21 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 20, 2015, 11:08:36 PM
Quote from: Rids on September 20, 2015, 11:03:24 PM
I love my Tigers as much as any but wowsers.
Lloyd isnt even contracted for next year yet and McIntosh has had an ok first year. Wont be long though till his turnovers cost him his JS especially with kids like Menadue and CEllis.
Nice early one up for discussion haha!
As a Tigers fan myself, I'm perfectly aware of that. I'm acquiring both as depth because I believe they're solid enough in that regard. The trade is mainly for Roberton who I need to improve my defenders.
But why do you need to give up Michael Barlow for two depth players? There's really not that much in it between Smith and Roberton.
Barlow's surplus to requirements with the amount of mids I have.
Barlow, Boak, Wines, Prestia, Shiels, Shiel, Whitfield, Edwards, Hall, De Goey.
10 mids all worthy of starting, only 6 spots. I'm confident downgrading Barlow to Kamdyn won't affect my team because I believe Whitfield/Edwards/Hall/De Goey are or will be good enough to replace him.
I wouldn't be making the trade if I hadn't thought about the repercussions for my team and quite frankly, I don't think they're that big.
It's interesting that you cite your midfield in your reasoning for the trade Nige.
When yours is compared to Rico's it makes the trade even more curious ..........G Ablett (GC), S Pendlebury (Coll), D Beams (Bris), S Sidebottom (Coll), T Liberatore (WB), N Dal Santo (NM), M Rosa (WC).......and add to that Barlow if this trade somehow goes through.
The strongest mids in the comp are getting even stronger, while giving up little and yours are getting weaker.
I don't get it at all.
And this is where things are wrong. The bloke that gets 50% of the say in whether this trade goes through is the bloke involved in the trade.
How did you numpties (Everyone that didn't vote Option B for the trades question) even think that leaving the trade system as is was going to be a good move?
It's not even worth discussing:
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#7 - Trade Approvals Process
A) Trades approved/blocked after discussions between both competition administrators. (Current Setting)
B) All Trades will go to a vote for all AXV coaches to be approved/blocked
C) Trades approved/blocked after discussions between both competition administrators. If three or more coaches voice concern with the decision (who are not directly involved in the trade) in the 48 hours following the admins' decision, it will go to a vote for all AXV coaches to be approved/blocked
We didn't pick Option C, we picked Option A. So unless you guys plan on changing the minds of the admin (One of whom is involved with the trade), then don't even bother complaining, and instead complain to yourself for not picking Option B (Or at the very least Option C). I would be interested to know the exact numbers for that question (BB, can you provide me?).
I was actually just about to bring up that PB, great minds think alike.
Quote from: PowerBug on September 20, 2015, 11:39:39 PM
And this is where things are wrong. The bloke that gets 50% of the say in whether this trade goes through is the bloke involved in the trade.
Though I imagine that in cases like this, it would be solely BB's ruling, or Rico's if BB was involved in the trade.
Quote from: Nige on September 20, 2015, 11:45:47 PM
I was actually just about to bring up that PB, great minds think alike.
Quote from: PowerBug on September 20, 2015, 11:39:39 PM
And this is where things are wrong. The bloke that gets 50% of the say in whether this trade goes through is the bloke involved in the trade.
Though I imagine that in cases like this, it would be solely BB's ruling, or Rico's if BB was involved in the trade.
And when they trade with eachother? It just passes?
And yes, exactly. THese people complaining can only blame themselves. If they actually wanted to have a say on the trade, then they should've voted accordingly... I thought they would've learnt from last year.
Quote from: PowerBug on September 20, 2015, 11:47:37 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 20, 2015, 11:45:47 PM
I was actually just about to bring up that PB, great minds think alike.
Quote from: PowerBug on September 20, 2015, 11:39:39 PM
And this is where things are wrong. The bloke that gets 50% of the say in whether this trade goes through is the bloke involved in the trade.
Though I imagine that in cases like this, it would be solely BB's ruling, or Rico's if BB was involved in the trade.
And when they trade with eachother? It just passes?
I wouldn't know. I was simply referring to this scenario.
I just cannot believe that it took less than a day of the thread being opened for someone to trade a gun mid to the Crocs for not much in return. Have we not seen their list?
If you guys want to see a Dublin 2.0 then fair enough, but far out..
Quote from: Jayman on September 20, 2015, 11:54:33 PM
I just cannot believe that it took less than a day of the thread being opened for someone to trade a gun mid to the Crocs for not much in return. Have we not seen their list?
If you guys want to see a Dublin then fair enough, but far out..
We haven't won anything yet? And Laos has been just as strong. Even UAE have a stronger list than us
Quote from: Ricochet on September 21, 2015, 12:08:12 AM
Quote from: Jayman on September 20, 2015, 11:54:33 PM
I just cannot believe that it took less than a day of the thread being opened for someone to trade a gun mid to the Crocs for not much in return. Have we not seen their list?
If you guys want to see a Dublin then fair enough, but far out..
We haven't won anything yet? And Laos has been just as strong. Even UAE have a stronger list than us
Yeah I know man, but that's just because you got screwed by injuries. You take that list and add basically Michael Barlow for free, it starts getting crazy.
Quote from: Jayman on September 20, 2015, 11:54:33 PM
I just cannot believe that it took less than a day of the thread being opened for someone to trade a gun mid to the Crocs for not much in return. Have we not seen their list?
If you guys want to see a Dublin 2.0 then fair enough, but far out..
Well one of the weaker sides in Taiwan wanted Barlow and tried to put in an offer but, we couldn't compete.
This was what I was talking about in the rules dicussion thread.
Wow giving gun mids out for free. Frawley and Mcintosh are two players who should never make any decent sides best 15
Quote from: Memphistopheles on September 21, 2015, 02:32:33 AM
Quote from: Jayman on September 20, 2015, 11:54:33 PM
I just cannot believe that it took less than a day of the thread being opened for someone to trade a gun mid to the Crocs for not much in return. Have we not seen their list?
If you guys want to see a Dublin 2.0 then fair enough, but far out..
Well one of the weaker sides in Taiwan wanted Barlow and tried to put in an offer but, we couldn't compete.
This was what I was talking about in the rules dicussion thread.
I honestly had a hard time between picking between your offer and Rico's dude. In the end, it was Rico being willing to trade Roberton that made me choose his deal.
Had these blokes on the table for a while, pretty sure Memph was like the only other person who even made an offer for Barlow, or at least one worth seriously considering.
If people feel so strongly, maybe they should have actually voted in a system where they could have a say in whether the trade goes through or not. If the admin is swayed by public opinion on the matter and doesn't actually consider the reasons for the trade, I'd be disappointed.
Quote from: Nige on September 21, 2015, 10:10:14 AM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on September 21, 2015, 02:32:33 AM
Quote from: Jayman on September 20, 2015, 11:54:33 PM
I just cannot believe that it took less than a day of the thread being opened for someone to trade a gun mid to the Crocs for not much in return. Have we not seen their list?
If you guys want to see a Dublin 2.0 then fair enough, but far out..
Well one of the weaker sides in Taiwan wanted Barlow and tried to put in an offer but, we couldn't compete.
This was what I was talking about in the rules dicussion thread.
I honestly had a hard time between picking between your offer and Rico's dude. In the end, it was Rico being willing to trade Roberton that made me choose his deal.
Had these blokes on the table for a while, pretty sure Memph was like the only other person who even made an offer for Barlow, or at least one worth seriously considering.
If people feel so strongly, maybe they should have actually voted in a system where they could have a say in whether the trade goes through or not. If the admin is swayed by public opinion on the matter and doesn't actually consider the reasons for the trade, I'd be disappointed.
No one wants a system where it goes to a popularity vote based on the best interests of coaches teams.
Trades will always provoke discussion so wouldnt take it personally.
Quote from: Rids on September 21, 2015, 10:18:33 AM
No one wants a system where it goes to a popularity vote based on the best interests of coaches teams.
Trades will always provoke discussion so wouldnt take it personally.
So why did you not vote for Option C? This way, you have ZERO say in whether the trade goes through. You can discuss it all you like, but admin make the final call as that is how we voted. So BB67th can just ignore everything that has been said (As he should) and just make the call based on what he sees.
So I hope this trade passes just to annoy the rest of you.
Barlow did have a pretty poor season, I don't think he's as golden as he's being played out to be. His top fantasy status is gone I think. When he gets D/M next year though this trade will look pretty bad.
Quote from: PowerBug on September 21, 2015, 10:46:02 AM
Quote from: Rids on September 21, 2015, 10:18:33 AM
No one wants a system where it goes to a popularity vote based on the best interests of coaches teams.
Trades will always provoke discussion so wouldnt take it personally.
So why did you not vote for Option C? This way, you have ZERO say in whether the trade goes through. You can discuss it all you like, but admin make the final call as that is how we voted. So BB67th can just ignore everything that has been said (As he should) and just make the call based on what he sees.
So I hope this trade passes just to annoy the rest of you.
Barlow did have a pretty poor season, I don't think he's as golden as he's being played out to be. His top fantasy status is gone I think. When he gets D/M next year though this trade will look pretty bad.
Sure Barlow did have a down season. But he doesn't have to be elite in order to make this trade completely unfair, he just has to be a fair bit better than Kamdyn Mcintosh and James Frawley...
Quote from: PowerBug on September 21, 2015, 10:46:02 AM
Quote from: Rids on September 21, 2015, 10:18:33 AM
No one wants a system where it goes to a popularity vote based on the best interests of coaches teams.
Trades will always provoke discussion so wouldnt take it personally.
So why did you not vote for Option C? This way, you have ZERO say in whether the trade goes through. You can discuss it all you like, but admin make the final call as that is how we voted. So BB67th can just ignore everything that has been said (As he should) and just make the call based on what he sees.
So I hope this trade passes just to annoy the rest of you.
Barlow did have a pretty poor season, I don't think he's as golden as he's being played out to be. His top fantasy status is gone I think. When he gets D/M next year though this trade will look pretty bad.
Firstly, you have no idea what we voted for. Also this is the trade discussion thread last time I checked so why not discuss the trade? This is how it has been for many years now. The admin say is final which is fine but it should not stop people voicing their opinion on the proposed trade. If the trade is passed it passes and people move on. Definitely won't annoy us if it passes as we have aired our thoughts.
Secondly, Barlow averaged 120+ in a poor season which included that vested half time 4 disposal game where he scored 25. It is a very shrewd trade by Rico as he has scored another premium mid for basement price so kudos to him.
Quote from: Jayman on September 21, 2015, 10:49:56 AM
Sure Barlow did have a down season. But he doesn't have to be elite in order to make this trade completely unfair, he just has to be a fair bit better than Kamdyn Mcintosh and James Frawley...
KMac averaged 86 in his first year of footy. James Frawley averged 70 and got subbed off about 20 times this season. Frawley is 27, KMac is 21. Barlow is 27.
Roberton is 4 years younger than Smith, he averaged more than Smith by 15 points (108 to 93), Smith might not return to 2014 standard, who knows how the concussion will affect him going forward.(Forget this one, Google screwed me over here)
I don't see it as a trade that should be negged. I see it as a trade that Nigey loses, but he could easily win it when we look back on it next year.
On the subject of trade discussions - Tbag why didn't you shop Yeo around.
I would have paid a much bigger premium than what Bangkok did to get one of my favourite players :'(.
Also if you're still happy with our deal post it up and I'll confirm.
Quote from: PowerBug on September 21, 2015, 11:01:23 AM
Quote from: Jayman on September 21, 2015, 10:49:56 AM
Sure Barlow did have a down season. But he doesn't have to be elite in order to make this trade completely unfair, he just has to be a fair bit better than Kamdyn Mcintosh and James Frawley...
KMac averaged 86 in his first year of footy. James Frawley averged 70 and got subbed off about 20 times this season. Frawley is 27, KMac is 21. Barlow is 27.
Roberton is 4 years younger than Smith, he averaged more than Smith by 15 points (108 to 93), Smith might not return to 2014 standard, who knows how the concussion will affect him going forward.
I don't see it as a trade that should be negged. I see it as a trade that Nigey loses, but he could easily win it when we look back on it next year.
Brodie Smith is 23. Roberton is 24.
Quote from: Rids on September 21, 2015, 11:03:13 AM
Quote from: PowerBug on September 21, 2015, 11:01:23 AM
Quote from: Jayman on September 21, 2015, 10:49:56 AM
Sure Barlow did have a down season. But he doesn't have to be elite in order to make this trade completely unfair, he just has to be a fair bit better than Kamdyn Mcintosh and James Frawley...
KMac averaged 86 in his first year of footy. James Frawley averged 70 and got subbed off about 20 times this season. Frawley is 27, KMac is 21. Barlow is 27.
Roberton is 4 years younger than Smith, he averaged more than Smith by 15 points (108 to 93), Smith might not return to 2014 standard, who knows how the concussion will affect him going forward.
I don't see it as a trade that should be negged. I see it as a trade that Nigey loses, but he could easily win it when we look back on it next year.
Brodie Smith is 23. Roberton is 24.
Ugh, I google Brodie Smith I get some American. :-[ Retract my previous comment :P
Quote from: PowerBug on September 21, 2015, 11:05:27 AM
Quote from: Rids on September 21, 2015, 11:03:13 AM
Quote from: PowerBug on September 21, 2015, 11:01:23 AM
Quote from: Jayman on September 21, 2015, 10:49:56 AM
Sure Barlow did have a down season. But he doesn't have to be elite in order to make this trade completely unfair, he just has to be a fair bit better than Kamdyn Mcintosh and James Frawley...
KMac averaged 86 in his first year of footy. James Frawley averged 70 and got subbed off about 20 times this season. Frawley is 27, KMac is 21. Barlow is 27.
Roberton is 4 years younger than Smith, he averaged more than Smith by 15 points (108 to 93), Smith might not return to 2014 standard, who knows how the concussion will affect him going forward.
I don't see it as a trade that should be negged. I see it as a trade that Nigey loses, but he could easily win it when we look back on it next year.
Brodie Smith is 23. Roberton is 24.
Ugh, I google Brodie Smith I get some American. :-[ Retract my previous comment :P
On top of that it is very likely Lake retires this year so Frawley plays perm back. Frawley only had 2 red vests as well for the year. McIntosh played every game this year but is fringe at best with the kids coming through. His disposal efficiency is 68% this year and some of his turnovers were game changers. Nige knows this as a fellow Tiger so that is his decision. He is aware of the risks.
At the end of the day, it sees a very strong team get 2 more on field starters in Smith and Barlow while the other strong team only gets one in return and they hope they someone steps up. Memph is correct with what he was saying about equality in teams. I am still a little shocked that a contender would make a fellow contender stronger on field but as I keep saying each to their own.
If the trade passes it passes. I wont add anything else to the discussion.
I think it's a dreadful trade and shouldn't come close to getting passed, but I respect whatever BB decides and won't say anything more on the matter :)
110avg defender, Kade Simpson is on the table. If you want him, PM me :)
I reckon most you guys are jut butthurt you didn't get Barlow yourselves :P
The trade is questionable, but it really isn't as bad as you guys seem to think it is.
Quote from: PowerBug on September 21, 2015, 11:05:27 AM
Quote from: Rids on September 21, 2015, 11:03:13 AM
Quote from: PowerBug on September 21, 2015, 11:01:23 AM
Quote from: Jayman on September 21, 2015, 10:49:56 AM
Sure Barlow did have a down season. But he doesn't have to be elite in order to make this trade completely unfair, he just has to be a fair bit better than Kamdyn Mcintosh and James Frawley...
KMac averaged 86 in his first year of footy. James Frawley averged 70 and got subbed off about 20 times this season. Frawley is 27, KMac is 21. Barlow is 27.
Roberton is 4 years younger than Smith, he averaged more than Smith by 15 points (108 to 93), Smith might not return to 2014 standard, who knows how the concussion will affect him going forward.
I don't see it as a trade that should be negged. I see it as a trade that Nigey loses, but he could easily win it when we look back on it next year.
Brodie Smith is 23. Roberton is 24.
Ugh, I google Brodie Smith I get some American. :-[ Retract my previous comment :P
Sounds like someone got the Frisbee icon, Brodie Smith
Bit of a wâš", but has some decent trick shots ::)
Quote from: nrich102 on September 21, 2015, 01:32:11 PM
I reckon most you guys are jut butthurt you didn't get Barlow yourselves :P
I'd agree if they actually made offers. :P
Quote from: nrich102 on September 21, 2015, 01:32:11 PM
I reckon most you guys are jut butthurt you didn't get Barlow yourselves :P
The trade is questionable, but it really isn't as bad as you guys seem to think it is.
i
Says the guy who gifted the lambs the flag
Quote from: Rids on September 21, 2015, 11:17:27 AM
Quote from: PowerBug on September 21, 2015, 11:05:27 AM
Quote from: Rids on September 21, 2015, 11:03:13 AM
Quote from: PowerBug on September 21, 2015, 11:01:23 AM
Quote from: Jayman on September 21, 2015, 10:49:56 AM
Sure Barlow did have a down season. But he doesn't have to be elite in order to make this trade completely unfair, he just has to be a fair bit better than Kamdyn Mcintosh and James Frawley...
KMac averaged 86 in his first year of footy. James Frawley averged 70 and got subbed off about 20 times this season. Frawley is 27, KMac is 21. Barlow is 27.
Roberton is 4 years younger than Smith, he averaged more than Smith by 15 points (108 to 93), Smith might not return to 2014 standard, who knows how the concussion will affect him going forward.
I don't see it as a trade that should be negged. I see it as a trade that Nigey loses, but he could easily win it when we look back on it next year.
Brodie Smith is 23. Roberton is 24.
Ugh, I google Brodie Smith I get some American. :-[ Retract my previous comment :P
On top of that it is very likely Lake retires this year so Frawley plays perm back. Frawley only had 2 red vests as well for the year. McIntosh played every game this year but is fringe at best with the kids coming through. His disposal efficiency is 68% this year and some of his turnovers were game changers. Nige knows this as a fellow Tiger so that is his decision. He is aware of the risks.
At the end of the day, it sees a very strong team get 2 more on field starters in Smith and Barlow while the other strong team only gets one in return and they hope they someone steps up. Memph is correct with what he was saying about equality in teams. I am still a little shocked that a contender would make a fellow contender stronger on field but as I keep saying each to their own.
If the trade passes it passes. I wont add anything else to the discussion.
How is McIntosh fringe when he plays every game in a year that the team makes finals? Especially with Newman retiring. You say the kids coming through will over take him but he is a kid also and why can't he develop and improve as well? Disposal efficiency is also improved with age and 68% isn't shocking at all. Andrew Gaff goes at 71%.
And why does Frawley as a perma back limit his scoring? Gibson and Lake have can score decent numbers in that Hawks backline. He may just need to settle. Plus his flexibility of def/fwd helps
At the end of the day Nige offered it to us and its broken down like
Nige sees Roberton > Smith
Barlow (who turns 29 next year and even I'll admit he has been overtaken by Neale in our midfield) = the overflow from the above, plus a 21yr old def/mid who averaged 95unsubbed in his first full year, plus a solid def/fwd.
That's how its broken down and its perfectly fine. Others tried to beat it but couldn't. It's only controvesial because its youth plus another solid player for an old premo, but trades aren't always premos for premos.
McIntosh has been in the system for 3 years now. He came from nowhere and jumped ahead of the now delisted Matty McDonough. His kicking and decision making is terrible. Why is he fringe? It is because Drummond got injured in his first game, Menadue needs another season under his belt, Corey Ellis was injured and Lambert for a large chunk of the year was also injured. He grabbed his opportunity this year. When I was chatting to a couple of Richmond officials a month ago, they said they loved his run and carry.
It is no secret that the Tigers will be bringing in Yarran and are targeting a few extra players this year. As I said before, McIntosh efficiency is 68%. Just ask any Tiger fan about his decision making and those costly turnovers. There was one against North in the final 2 weeks ago.
As for Frawley, AXV is suited to forwards with the 12 points for goals. In the last 2 games for the home and away season, Frawley played forward and kicked 3 goals in each. He scored 128 and 92 in those 2 games. He averaged 70 for the year.
I have aired my views on the trade and will accept the decision made by BB. I think this view is shared by a few.
BB will make the call and we all will move on.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 21, 2015, 02:44:47 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on September 21, 2015, 01:32:11 PM
I reckon most you guys are jut butthurt you didn't get Barlow yourselves :P
The trade is questionable, but it really isn't as bad as you guys seem to think it is.
i
Says the guy who gifted the lambs the flag
Says the guy still butthurt from not getting the player he wanted a year ago.
Quote from: Rids on September 21, 2015, 03:28:24 PM
McIntosh has been in the system for 3 years now. He came from nowhere and jumped ahead of the now delisted Matty McDonough. His kicking and decision making is terrible. Why is he fringe? It is because Drummond got injured in his first game, Menadue needs another season under his belt, Corey Ellis was injured and Lambert for a large chunk of the year was also injured. He grabbed his opportunity this year. When I was chatting to a couple of Richmond officials a month ago, they said they loved his run and carry.
It is no secret that the Tigers will be bringing in Yarran and are targeting a few extra players this year. As I said before, McIntosh efficiency is 68%. Just ask any Tiger fan about his decision making and those costly turnovers. There was one against North in the final 2 weeks ago.
As for Frawley, AXV is suited to forwards with the 12 points for goals. In the last 2 games for the home and away season, Frawley played forward and kicked 3 goals in each. He scored 128 and 92 in those 2 games. He averaged 70 for the year.
So he played in front of those kids? Doesn't mean he's fringe at all. Maybe those kids would have pushed out others? Or not be up to it yet anyway. This year I have lso spoken to a couple of ex Tigers players who still have links to the club and his name came up, he is rated highly internally. And Richmond are chasing Yarran? Pies are chasing Treloar.. should I trade out Sidey? Or Pendles? Your throwing up things that aren't guaranteed of happening or not happening. Hardly fair to based a players complete value on it.
Frawley's average has a -3 and 24 sub scores in there, throwing out his average. He isn't the grunt of the deal anyway, just making up the gap. And just because fwds score better doesn't mean defenders aren't valuable. He also scored 99, 94 and 105 in defence, so those 2 scores aren't masking his scoring ability in defence.
It's fine mate you're allowed your opinion. I just don't like it when players are publicly bashed to bring their value down below what they're truly worth.
For the record, I would pass this even if it wasn't my team involved. But that probably doesn't mean much atm lol
It's been broken down, I can't make it any clearer. So up to BB now
Hey lads, we'll be looking to go through a bit of a rebuild this off-season, and as a result we have a few guys available that aren't in our future plans but still have a few good seasons left in them.
Matthew Boyd - will get def status
Garrick Ibbotson
Lachlan Hansen
Paul Duffield
Sam Mitchell
Aaron Sandilands
Nick Riewoldt
Mark LeCras
Brent Harvey
Andrew Walker - def/fwd next year
Boyd, Ibbotson, Riewoldt, LeCras and Walker will likely be out the door soon so get your offers in for them ASAP.
Does anyone NOT want their 5th round pick? Because I want about 3 so need two more. You can probably get my 3rd rounder, or it can be used to finish off deals.
Taking final offers for Boyd, Riewoldt and Walker, otherwise they will be gone tonight.
LeCras, Ibbotson and Harvey likely out the door soon too.
cant u wait until the new coach gets announced so they can make a offer
Jed Adcock, Matt Spangher, Tanner Smith, Sam Schulz and Jayden Short will be delisted by Laos unless anyone wants them.
First three have a bit of value, the latter two not so much. Depth forwards needed in return. :)
http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,104664.msg1666557.html#msg1666557
Quote from: PowerBug on August 25, 2015, 04:59:33 PM
Kathmandu Eskimos
ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK: (These guys will be de-listed unless you want to take them as a sweetener)
P.Stewart (66), D.Howard (0)
ON THE TABLE: (I don't mind whether these players are on my list next season or not. If you want any please enquire me)
M.Firrito (71), J.Trengove (59) A.Silvagni (57)
Lewis Jetta (106), Ben Howlett (100), Tendai Mzungu (87), A.Boston (73, r), A.Morabito (0, r)
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L.Thomas (87), B.Dale (45), T.Elton (22)
N27
COULD BE PERSUADED: (I would rather have this lot on my list next season, I will listen to offers though)
C.Garland (83), J.Hombsch (77), S.Rowe (64), H.Schade (51, r)
Liam Picken (133), Isaac Smith (127), Levi Greenwood (112)
William Frampton (0, r), Daniel Currie (0), Sam Durdin (0)
C.Pedersen (88), O.Fantasia (87), L.Henderson (84), C.Dawes (75), J.Rose (73), R.Knight (71)
N11, R11, R27, R43, R59, R75
UNTOUCHABLE: (Seriously, unlike other teams, this means do not bother asking)
James Kelly, Taylor Duryea, Sam Wright
Dan Hannebery, Andrew Gaff, Brad Ebert, Sam Gray (r)
Paddy Ryder
Eddie Betts, Luke Breust
TARGET PLAYERS
Defenders:
Wouldn't mind an 80+ back.
Midfielders:
No need for anyone here
Ruckmen:
Matthew Lobbe still, someone give BB67th another ruckman please.
Forwards:
Believe it or not, I am taking offers for a 90+ forward.
Draft Picks:
I want one draft pick in the first round, so unless I am offered one, you can't take mine. Other than that I have no intentions in grabbing extra draft picks, I have the ones I require to make my upgrades and complete my senior lists.
Updated my trade requirements in the above link and all is shown there :) Should make things easier now for teams that want to take some of my players. Jetta being the biggest name up for sale. Remember records in AFL finals don't matter for AXV, bloke is an uncontested ball machine and racks it up!
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 25, 2015, 01:55:30 AM
Just because it's been a bit quiet around here.
Bangladesh give: M. Boyd + N. Riewoldt + A. Walker + M. LeCras + G. Ibbotson + B. Harvey + N26
Australia give: A. Tomlinson + S. Mayes + J. Aish + L. Taylor + J. Lonie + M. Hallahan + N76
Ada to confirm
And, someone complained last season about Nrich handing the title to another club with his trades...
Six premiums for some kids.
Also don't bother trading with me anymore unless it involves kids or draft picks.
I've tried several times to improve my team this off season but, it seems people only want to trade with the teams already at the top.
The divide between the good teams and the weak teams gets wider.
I'll just sit on my hands and wait for the kids to develop.
i highly doubt that's what's going on no reason makes sense for teams to only trade with top teams
Unfortunately the precedent has been set. No one should be blaming JB for going out and doing what has been considered acceptable previously. JB has given quality kids in this trade with huge futures. On the flip side there are a couple of older guys that have 1 year left.
I am not a fan of it at all as it makes the comp less competitive when 1 team lands so many. But these trades have passed continually in the past so it is what it is.
Also makes it hard for the incoming Coach / Coaches whoever it may be, as will be playing catch up as have missed out on potential trading.
In saying that whoever incorporates the Tigers have a good ground floor of players to start with / trade / delist for picks.
Quote from: nas on September 25, 2015, 07:14:19 AM
Also makes it hard for the incoming Coach / Coaches whoever it may be, as will be playing catch up as have missed out on potential trading.
In saying that whoever incorporates the Tigers have a good ground floor of players to start with / trade / delist for picks.
Have to admit that I have no idea why trading wasnt halted till the new coach had been announced. Oversight I would assume. The good news is that not much has happened while the voting has occurred.
Quote from: Rids on September 25, 2015, 07:01:26 AM
Unfortunately the precedent has been set. No one should be blaming JB for going out and doing what has been considered acceptable previously. JB has given quality kids in this trade with huge futures. On the flip side there are a couple of older guys that have 1 year left.
I am not a fan of it at all as it makes the comp less competitive when 1 team lands so many. But these trades have passed continually in the past so it is what it is.
I don't have a problem with the trade, but I do have a problem with the fact it is JB doing it. JB was completely off his nut last year and still is now about the trade I did last year, so really if my trade really was that bad that we may as well end the world, why the flower is he ripping someone else off so much.
flowering double standards.
Quote from: nrich102 on September 25, 2015, 07:51:30 AM
Quote from: Rids on September 25, 2015, 07:01:26 AM
Unfortunately the precedent has been set. No one should be blaming JB for going out and doing what has been considered acceptable previously. JB has given quality kids in this trade with huge futures. On the flip side there are a couple of older guys that have 1 year left.
I am not a fan of it at all as it makes the comp less competitive when 1 team lands so many. But these trades have passed continually in the past so it is what it is.
I don't have a problem with the trade, but I do have a problem with the fact it is JB doing it. JB was completely off his nut last year and still is now about the trade I did last year, so really if my trade really was that bad that we may as well end the world, why the flower is he ripping someone else off so much.
flowering double standards.
Why shouldnt JB do it? He spoke up against this happening and every time the trade was passed. He is only doing what is now allowed.
Quote from: Rids on September 25, 2015, 07:59:29 AM
Quote from: nrich102 on September 25, 2015, 07:51:30 AM
Quote from: Rids on September 25, 2015, 07:01:26 AM
Unfortunately the precedent has been set. No one should be blaming JB for going out and doing what has been considered acceptable previously. JB has given quality kids in this trade with huge futures. On the flip side there are a couple of older guys that have 1 year left.
I am not a fan of it at all as it makes the comp less competitive when 1 team lands so many. But these trades have passed continually in the past so it is what it is.
I don't have a problem with the trade, but I do have a problem with the fact it is JB doing it. JB was completely off his nut last year and still is now about the trade I did last year, so really if my trade really was that bad that we may as well end the world, why the flower is he ripping someone else off so much.
flowering double standards.
Why shouldnt JB do it? He spoke up against this happening and every time the trade was passed. He is only doing what is now allowed.
If you're still giving someone shower over a trade that wasn't that bad a year after it happened you shouldn't go and do the same kind of trade. It's double standards. How come Im not allowed to give my good players to toga, but JB is allowed to take Adas players off him.
The trade itself is in essentially fair, but the further ramifications for the comp and it's integrity need to be considered when the decision is made as to whether these types of trades pass or not.
The sad part is that this type of thing has the potential to take the title from a team that has built, traded and planned correctly.
Quote from: nrich102 on September 25, 2015, 08:05:42 AM
Quote from: Rids on September 25, 2015, 07:59:29 AM
Quote from: nrich102 on September 25, 2015, 07:51:30 AM
Quote from: Rids on September 25, 2015, 07:01:26 AM
Unfortunately the precedent has been set. No one should be blaming JB for going out and doing what has been considered acceptable previously. JB has given quality kids in this trade with huge futures. On the flip side there are a couple of older guys that have 1 year left.
I am not a fan of it at all as it makes the comp less competitive when 1 team lands so many. But these trades have passed continually in the past so it is what it is.
I don't have a problem with the trade, but I do have a problem with the fact it is JB doing it. JB was completely off his nut last year and still is now about the trade I did last year, so really if my trade really was that bad that we may as well end the world, why the flower is he ripping someone else off so much.
flowering double standards.
Why shouldnt JB do it? He spoke up against this happening and every time the trade was passed. He is only doing what is now allowed.
If you're still giving someone shower over a trade that wasn't that bad a year after it happened you shouldn't go and do the same kind of trade. It's double standards. How come Im not allowed to give my good players to toga, but JB is allowed to take Adas players off him.
JB is allowed to do it because you were allowed to do it. Just because someone talks up about a trade doesnt mean they cant do the same if the trade passes.
Quote from: nostradamus on September 25, 2015, 08:09:00 AM
The trade itself is in essentially fair, but the further ramifications for the comp and it's integrity need to be considered when the decision is made as to whether these types of trades pass or not.
The sad part is that this type of thing has the potential to take the title from a team that has built, traded and planned correctly.
You cannot blame BB for letting these trades pass if they're fair. If you want the players involved you need to be more active in getting them.
Far too much whinging in here
and wowee JB. Game on
It is called whinging now to speak your mind???
I seem to remember plenty expressing their opinion on trades that were made by the Crabs previously so we are only doing the same. No one is blaming anyone. There has been a precedent set.
Some are complaining just because they were beaten by offers and yeh whinging in regards to "precedents being set". The only precedent that has been set is that if a trade is fair then it passes. Its the same in any comp. Personally I have only ever seen one trade blocked for the sake of the competition, and that was Worlds, not Asians.
For what its worth, Adamant smashed that deal imo.
Walker isn't a premo, neither is Ibbotson. Boomer is on the decline and only has one year left. Boyd and NRoo are guns but one year left. Who knows they may do a SJ and drop off too. JB has done well to get Lecca though
Quote from: Ricochet on September 25, 2015, 09:09:15 AM
Some are complaining just because they were beaten by offers and yeh whinging in regards to "precedents being set". The only precedent that has been set is that if a trade is fair then it passes. Its the same in any comp. Personally I have only ever seen one trade blocked for the sake of the competition, and that was Worlds, not Asians.
For what its worth, Adamant smashed that deal imo.
Walker isn't a premo, neither is Ibbotson. Boomer is on the decline and only has one year left. Boyd and NRoo are guns but one year left. Who knows they may do a SJ and drop off too. JB has done well to get Lecca though
Not once did I say he didn't so dont go reading too much into my comments. I only made a comment because JB can not be blamed for making this trade. A precedent has been set (rightly or wrongly - doesnt concern me at all) and rules and guidelines in regards to trades are clear. The point I and Nostra are trying to make is that, even when a trade is fair, should the trade still need to be looked at with the comp's integrity at stake.
Quote from: Ricochet on September 25, 2015, 09:09:15 AM
Some are complaining just because they were beaten by offers and yeh whinging in regards to "precedents being set". The only precedent that has been set is that if a trade is fair then it passes. Its the same in any comp. Personally I have only ever seen one trade blocked for the sake of the competition, and that was Worlds, not Asians.
For what its worth, Adamant smashed that deal imo.
Walker isn't a premo, neither is Ibbotson. Boomer is on the decline and only has one year left. Boyd and NRoo are guns but one year left. Who knows they may do a SJ and drop off too. JB has done well to get Lecca though
As an administrator of this comp I think it's highly inappropriate to be making these comments........aren't you meant to be seen as unbiased.
Especially with regards to commenting on trades not yet passed.......you have said Adamant clearly wins the trade, therefore does it get negged??
Quote from: Rids on September 25, 2015, 09:14:23 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 25, 2015, 09:09:15 AM
Some are complaining just because they were beaten by offers and yeh whinging in regards to "precedents being set". The only precedent that has been set is that if a trade is fair then it passes. Its the same in any comp. Personally I have only ever seen one trade blocked for the sake of the competition, and that was Worlds, not Asians.
For what its worth, Adamant smashed that deal imo.
Walker isn't a premo, neither is Ibbotson. Boomer is on the decline and only has one year left. Boyd and NRoo are guns but one year left. Who knows they may do a SJ and drop off too. JB has done well to get Lecca though
Not once did I say he didn't so dont go reading too much into my comments. I only made a comment because JB can not be blamed for making this trade. A precedent has been set (rightly or wrongly - doesnt concern me at all) and rules and guidelines in regards to trades are clear. The point I and Nostra are trying to make is that, even when a trade is fair, should the trade still need to be looked at with the comp's integrity at stake.
yeh my initial post wasn't directed at you Rids, more in general
Quote from: nostradamus on September 25, 2015, 09:23:05 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 25, 2015, 09:09:15 AM
Some are complaining just because they were beaten by offers and yeh whinging in regards to "precedents being set". The only precedent that has been set is that if a trade is fair then it passes. Its the same in any comp. Personally I have only ever seen one trade blocked for the sake of the competition, and that was Worlds, not Asians.
For what its worth, Adamant smashed that deal imo.
Walker isn't a premo, neither is Ibbotson. Boomer is on the decline and only has one year left. Boyd and NRoo are guns but one year left. Who knows they may do a SJ and drop off too. JB has done well to get Lecca though
As an administrator of this comp I think it's highly inappropriate to be making these comments........aren't you meant to be seen as unbiased.
Especially with regards to commenting on trades not yet passed.......you have said Adamant clearly wins the trade, therefore does it get negged??
when comments are made that feel like they're attacking the integrity of the comp or BB for letting trades pass then i will always comment. Again not directing it at anyone in particular just the general feeling I've gotten.
Sorry i should have said Ada smashes it for what he's trying to achieve with his rebuild. Instead of just getting kids he's gotten gun kids that have already shown something. i shouldn't have said it like i did to, my bad.
Also i am only 50% of the trade decisions
Quote from: Ricochet on September 25, 2015, 09:51:17 AM
Quote from: Rids on September 25, 2015, 09:14:23 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 25, 2015, 09:09:15 AM
Some are complaining just because they were beaten by offers and yeh whinging in regards to "precedents being set". The only precedent that has been set is that if a trade is fair then it passes. Its the same in any comp. Personally I have only ever seen one trade blocked for the sake of the competition, and that was Worlds, not Asians.
For what its worth, Adamant smashed that deal imo.
Walker isn't a premo, neither is Ibbotson. Boomer is on the decline and only has one year left. Boyd and NRoo are guns but one year left. Who knows they may do a SJ and drop off too. JB has done well to get Lecca though
Not once did I say he didn't so dont go reading too much into my comments. I only made a comment because JB can not be blamed for making this trade. A precedent has been set (rightly or wrongly - doesnt concern me at all) and rules and guidelines in regards to trades are clear. The point I and Nostra are trying to make is that, even when a trade is fair, should the trade still need to be looked at with the comp's integrity at stake.
yeh my initial post wasn't directed at you Rids.
Your initial one might not have been but the second one definitely was!
Quote from: Rids on September 25, 2015, 09:55:27 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 25, 2015, 09:51:17 AM
Quote from: Rids on September 25, 2015, 09:14:23 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 25, 2015, 09:09:15 AM
Some are complaining just because they were beaten by offers and yeh whinging in regards to "precedents being set". The only precedent that has been set is that if a trade is fair then it passes. Its the same in any comp. Personally I have only ever seen one trade blocked for the sake of the competition, and that was Worlds, not Asians.
For what its worth, Adamant smashed that deal imo.
Walker isn't a premo, neither is Ibbotson. Boomer is on the decline and only has one year left. Boyd and NRoo are guns but one year left. Who knows they may do a SJ and drop off too. JB has done well to get Lecca though
Not once did I say he didn't so dont go reading too much into my comments. I only made a comment because JB can not be blamed for making this trade. A precedent has been set (rightly or wrongly - doesnt concern me at all) and rules and guidelines in regards to trades are clear. The point I and Nostra are trying to make is that, even when a trade is fair, should the trade still need to be looked at with the comp's integrity at stake.
yeh my initial post wasn't directed at you Rids.
Your initial one might not have been but the second one definitely was!
Because i honestly don't see how it hurts the integrity of the comp. JB has given up some big name kids for those boys.
If ppl wanted Adamants boys they needed to pay more. Its simple
Quote from: Ricochet on September 25, 2015, 09:59:22 AM
Quote from: Rids on September 25, 2015, 09:55:27 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 25, 2015, 09:51:17 AM
Quote from: Rids on September 25, 2015, 09:14:23 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 25, 2015, 09:09:15 AM
Some are complaining just because they were beaten by offers and yeh whinging in regards to "precedents being set". The only precedent that has been set is that if a trade is fair then it passes. Its the same in any comp. Personally I have only ever seen one trade blocked for the sake of the competition, and that was Worlds, not Asians.
For what its worth, Adamant smashed that deal imo.
Walker isn't a premo, neither is Ibbotson. Boomer is on the decline and only has one year left. Boyd and NRoo are guns but one year left. Who knows they may do a SJ and drop off too. JB has done well to get Lecca though
Not once did I say he didn't so dont go reading too much into my comments. I only made a comment because JB can not be blamed for making this trade. A precedent has been set (rightly or wrongly - doesnt concern me at all) and rules and guidelines in regards to trades are clear. The point I and Nostra are trying to make is that, even when a trade is fair, should the trade still need to be looked at with the comp's integrity at stake.
yeh my initial post wasn't directed at you Rids.
Your initial one might not have been but the second one definitely was!
Because i honestly don't see how it hurts the integrity of the comp. JB has given up some big name kids for those boys.
If ppl wanted Adamants boys they needed to pay more. Its simple
You are an admin. To publicly say that people are whinging when they share an opinion that you dont share is not the way to do things mate. If there needs to be clarity then take it off line like Colli used to. I dont want to go further off on a tangent as this is not the reason why I commented in the first place.
The reason was that I feel having a go at the 2 parties involved in a trade is not a good thing by anyone. Agreed trades are announced and then it goes to the trade process the majority voted for. If people think that the trade is unfair then they are free to share their views as members and coaches of the comp. But it should not be directed at the coaches involved in the trade.
Quote from: Rids on September 25, 2015, 10:03:12 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 25, 2015, 09:59:22 AM
Quote from: Rids on September 25, 2015, 09:55:27 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 25, 2015, 09:51:17 AM
Quote from: Rids on September 25, 2015, 09:14:23 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 25, 2015, 09:09:15 AM
Some are complaining just because they were beaten by offers and yeh whinging in regards to "precedents being set". The only precedent that has been set is that if a trade is fair then it passes. Its the same in any comp. Personally I have only ever seen one trade blocked for the sake of the competition, and that was Worlds, not Asians.
For what its worth, Adamant smashed that deal imo.
Walker isn't a premo, neither is Ibbotson. Boomer is on the decline and only has one year left. Boyd and NRoo are guns but one year left. Who knows they may do a SJ and drop off too. JB has done well to get Lecca though
Not once did I say he didn't so dont go reading too much into my comments. I only made a comment because JB can not be blamed for making this trade. A precedent has been set (rightly or wrongly - doesnt concern me at all) and rules and guidelines in regards to trades are clear. The point I and Nostra are trying to make is that, even when a trade is fair, should the trade still need to be looked at with the comp's integrity at stake.
yeh my initial post wasn't directed at you Rids.
Your initial one might not have been but the second one definitely was!
Because i honestly don't see how it hurts the integrity of the comp. JB has given up some big name kids for those boys.
If ppl wanted Adamants boys they needed to pay more. Its simple
You are an admin. To publicly say that people are whinging when they share an opinion that you dont share is not the way to do things mate. If there needs to be clarity then take it off line like Colli used to. I dont want to go further off on a tangent as this is not the reason why I commented in the first place.
The reason was that I feel having a go at the 2 parties involved in a trade is not a good thing by anyone. Agreed trades are announced and then it goes to the trade process the majority voted for. If people think that the trade is unfair then they are free to share their views as members and coaches of the comp. But it should not be directed at the coaches involved in the trade.
Admin or not I will always protect this comp because it is the best comp, with the best coaches invovled. So when people suggest something negative about the way it is run (which whether you meant to or not is a direct link to BB and myself) then I will jump in straight away and defend it. Because stuff like this snowballs on here, everyone knows that.
Quote from: Ricochet on September 25, 2015, 10:12:34 AM
Because stuff like this snowballs on here, everyone knows that.
You can say that again.
JB is gonna be cooked in 2017 ;D
For the record, just because someone is an admin doesn't mean they can't encourage coaches to move on once a trade has been sent through and confirmed. Come on guys, stop... errr... whinging... voicing opinions repeatedly and lets get back on track.
i'm just annoyed they didn't wait until the new coach was announced like i suggested so they could make an offer
poor coaching to do this
Quote from: nrich102 on September 25, 2015, 08:05:42 AM
Quote from: Rids on September 25, 2015, 07:59:29 AM
Quote from: nrich102 on September 25, 2015, 07:51:30 AM
Quote from: Rids on September 25, 2015, 07:01:26 AM
Unfortunately the precedent has been set. No one should be blaming JB for going out and doing what has been considered acceptable previously. JB has given quality kids in this trade with huge futures. On the flip side there are a couple of older guys that have 1 year left.
I am not a fan of it at all as it makes the comp less competitive when 1 team lands so many. But these trades have passed continually in the past so it is what it is.
I don't have a problem with the trade, but I do have a problem with the fact it is JB doing it. JB was completely off his nut last year and still is now about the trade I did last year, so really if my trade really was that bad that we may as well end the world, why the flower is he ripping someone else off so much.
flowering double standards.
Why shouldnt JB do it? He spoke up against this happening and every time the trade was passed. He is only doing what is now allowed.
If you're still giving someone shower over a trade that wasn't that bad a year after it happened you shouldn't go and do the same kind of trade. It's double standards. How come Im not allowed to give my good players to toga, but JB is allowed to take Adas players off him.
Adapt or die!
Plus you were allowed to trade all your good players to toga. Difference here is I am actually given up high quality youth.
If you're after defedners
Malceski, Burgoyne, Enright, Dal Santo, Rosa, Savage, Wellingham are either definite defenders or have a chance of defensive status. Some only have a year or two left but can still score premo numbers.
Can package them up with each other or anyone else in our side really.
Mainly interested in fwds, and or youth
The trade is surely a contentious one, and I will be having a more in-depth look at it tomorrow.
I believe that all coaches have the right to express their own opinions on trades, that is definitely a right all should have. However, I do feel that if coaches are worried about how trades might affect the integrity of the competition, they could have voted to give themselves more power in this respect in the recent rules voting. I do also realise that quite a few coaches did vote for one of these options, but they were ultimately overruled by the majority which wanted trade approval to remain squarely in the hands of the admins.
In this regard, I am all for coaches expressing their opinions on trades, but I hope we will all be able to move on once a decision has been reached on them.
UAE Tigers.
ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK: (Likely to delist or throw in to sweeten a deal)
Blaine Johnson, Brenden Abbott, Tom Downie, Jordan Cunico, Mason Cox, (Jason Winderlich Retired)
ON THE TABLE: (Looking to trade this player for a fair deal)
Tom Bellchambers, Will Minson, Majak Daw, Zac O'Brien, Matt McDonough, Clancee Pearce, Sean Dempster, Courtney Dempsey, Daniel Butler, Jackson Merrett, Ted Richards, Tom Lee, Kieran Harper
COULD BE PERSUADED: (Would need a ripper deal to let these players go)
Dane Swan, David Zaharakis, JRoo, Travis Cloke, Daniel Rich,
UNTOUCHABLE: (Not available for trade no way no how), "BUT NEVER SAY NEVER"
Brett Deledio, Dustin Martin, Stefan Martin, Mitch Wallis, Jack Ziebell, Brendon Goddard, Luke Hodge, David Mundy, Shaun Higgins, Shaun Grigg, Andrew Swallow, Nathan Jones, Grant Birchall, Shaun McKernan, Josh Gibson, Daniel Talia, Shannon Hurn, Jarrod Harbrow, Ryan Bastinac, Farren Ray, Nathan Krakouer, Ryan Griffen.
DRAFT PICKS: (Draft picks available for trade) At this stage: None
TARGET PLAYERS
Defenders:
Midfielders:
Ruckmen:
Forwards:
Draft Picks:
FYI I do not wish to trade any of our recent draftees like Sheed or Brayshaw! We draft for a reason so please don't ask, ty
Quote from: tbagrocks on September 26, 2015, 02:45:27 PM
FYI I do not wish to trade any of our recent draftees like Sheed or Brayshaw! We draft for a reason so please don't ask, ty
can we get Brayshaw and Sheed off you?
Have had some interest in Curnow, Blair and Laidler from different people so if you have any interest let me know :)
Quote from: Adamant on September 21, 2015, 09:25:09 PM
Hey lads, we'll be looking to go through a bit of a rebuild this off-season, and as a result we have a few guys available that aren't in our future plans but still have a few good seasons left in them.
Matthew Boyd - will get def status
Garrick Ibbotson
Lachlan Hansen
Paul Duffield
Sam Mitchell
Aaron Sandilands
Nick Riewoldt
Mark LeCras
Brent Harvey
Andrew Walker - def/fwd next year
The Longer + Hickey has attracted a good deal and will be out the door by the end of the day if we don't get a better offer. :)
Been a tad of interest in Tom Downie. Will look at all offers.
Ahhh yes it's the typical trade just posted. The bottom club parts with one of their best players and in return gets potential scoring.
Quote from: PowerBug on September 30, 2015, 09:54:40 PM
Ahhh yes it's the typical trade just posted. The bottom club parts with one of their best players and in return gets potential scoring.
Vardy averaged 103, Carlisle 90 and Menzel 80. I would argue that potential is actual.
Quote from: PowerBug on September 30, 2015, 09:54:40 PM
Ahhh yes it's the typical trade just posted. The bottom club parts with one of their best players and in return gets potential scoring.
Curious comment there........we didn't even make the top 8
Thoughts pick 17 was a bit of a stretch but not the worst trade going around.
Quote from: nostradamus on September 30, 2015, 10:01:37 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on September 30, 2015, 09:54:40 PM
Ahhh yes it's the typical trade just posted. The bottom club parts with one of their best players and in return gets potential scoring.
Curious comment there........we didn't even make the top 8
Oh yeah that's fine, at least it wasn't to a top 8 club like the others. :)
Quote from: Rids on September 30, 2015, 09:56:09 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on September 30, 2015, 09:54:40 PM
Ahhh yes it's the typical trade just posted. The bottom club parts with one of their best players and in return gets potential scoring.
Vardy averaged 103, Carlisle 90 and Menzel 80. I would argue that potential is actual.
Carlisle was alright. Menzel played two games... Vardy played 3... It's potential, it's not actual.
Travis Varcoe is on the table for anyone searching for some forward depth (he should be a mid/fwd next year I think).
Looking for a defender, midfielder or a decent pick for him. Or even maybe a ruck - anything but a forward really :P
I pulled out of talks with nas over Giles, Belly, McKernan because it was obvious that Essendon were not going to go into 2016 with those three as the only options.
http://t.co/NzBC4rVdY3
Sorry nrich,I reckon you've just been shafted there.
Quote from: PowerBug on October 05, 2015, 03:17:35 PM
I pulled out of talks with nas over Giles, Belly, McKernan because it was obvious that Essendon were not going to go into 2016 with those three as the only options.
http://t.co/NzBC4rVdY3
Sorry nrich,I reckon you've just been shafted there.
Yeah, I know they're going after Leuy/Smith, but I can always just get them as well :P Maybe I was overpaying, but it's better than playing a player out of position.
I thought nrich was the one coming out on top easily haha.
Quote from: nrich102 on October 05, 2015, 04:00:56 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 05, 2015, 03:17:35 PM
I pulled out of talks with nas over Giles, Belly, McKernan because it was obvious that Essendon were not going to go into 2016 with those three as the only options.
http://t.co/NzBC4rVdY3
Sorry nrich,I reckon you've just been shafted there.
Yeah, I know they're going after Leuy/Smith, but I can always just get them as well :P Maybe I was overpaying, but it's better than playing a player out of position.
My first contact re the offer for this trade was on the 30th September & this came out on the 4th Oct. Not my intension to shaft nrich in any way. Actual fact is he gains as of current status 2 of R/F.
I don't think I was shafted either. It's a risk going for these guys when the club is chasing a better ruckman, but my other ruckmen are Jamar and Hale, so I need a bit of depth there. I think it should come out quite even.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 05, 2015, 04:07:27 PM
I thought nrich was the one coming out on top easily haha.
Oh, nah the trade itself is fine, nrich is not giving much away. I just don't think you are going to get a guaranteed ruck from those 3 every week like you said in your reasoning.
Should've worded what I said differently sorry.
Quote from: PowerBug on October 05, 2015, 04:40:35 PM
Oh, nah the trade itself is fine, nrich is not giving much away. I just don't think you are going to get a guaranteed ruck from those 3 every week like you said in your reasoning.
Should've worded what I said differently sorry.
All good mate. I reckon that even if Leuy/Smith comes one of McKernan or Belly will play down forward with a pinch hit. Will be interesting to see what happens.
Quote from: PowerBug on October 05, 2015, 04:40:35 PM
Oh, nah the trade itself is fine, nrich is not giving much away. I just don't think you are going to get a guaranteed ruck from those 3 every week like you said in your reasoning.
Should've worded what I said differently sorry.
All Good.
Quote from: nrich102 on October 05, 2015, 04:45:58 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 05, 2015, 04:40:35 PM
Oh, nah the trade itself is fine, nrich is not giving much away. I just don't think you are going to get a guaranteed ruck from those 3 every week like you said in your reasoning.
Should've worded what I said differently sorry.
All good mate. I reckon that even if Leuy/Smith comes one of McKernan or Belly will play down forward with a pinch hit. Will be interesting to see what happens.
In which case you'll have a ruck or more likely r/f playing as forward which isn't bad by any means in this comp so it's actually a great trade.
Malceski, SBurgoyne, Rosa, Wellingham, Enright, Savage, Dal Santo, Jimmy Webster
Are all defenders or a chance to become a defender next year
All are on the table. Looking for a fwd preferrably
After a young gun midfielder, under 25, either a premo or just below the premo level or alternatively a highly touted 19-21 yo.
Willing to include one of my promising young mids (eg. Cameron Ellis-Yolmen, Touk Miller, Darcy Lang, Alex Neal-Bullen, Rory Atkins, Nathan Freeman) and/or Pick 13 into a deal.
If you have such a player and are willing to consider a trade let me know :)
Rhys Stanley on the trade table. Will be forward/ruck next season and showed some good form playing as a tall follower this season before getting injured.
Hit me up if you're interested.
Also looking to offload depth players like Robbie Tarrant, Simon White, Jeremy Laidler, David Mackay if anyone is interested.
Quote from: Ricochet on September 03, 2015, 01:13:22 AM
Looking over the team lists and noticed this Adamant
Quote from: Adamant on February 19, 2014, 11:42:42 PM
Bangladesh Bears (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,66883.0.html) - Adamant (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php?action=profile;u=6096)
Def: A Walker (Carl), P Duffield (Freo), J Grimes (Melb), G Ibbotson (Freo), C Sutcliffe (Freo), L Hansen (NM), B Goodes (WB), B Jacobs (NM), J Rivers (Geel), T Mohr (GWS), A Carlile (Port), J Bews (Geel), T Clurey (Port)
Mid: J Selwood (Geel), N Fyfe (Freo), M Boyd (WB), S Mitchell (Haw), K Cornes (Port), B Cunnington (NM), D Cross (Melb), A Carrazzo (Carl), R Crowley (Freo), A Raines (GC)
Ruck: B McEvoy (Haw), A Sandilands (Freo)
Fwd: N Riewoldt (StK), B Harvey (NM), M LeCras (WC), C Rioli (Haw), M Pavlich (Freo), J Patton (GWS), C Sylvia (Freo), J Toumpas (Melb), C Daniel (WB), S Kerridge (Adel), B Staker (Bris), J White (Coll), M Shaw (Port), E Langdon (Freo), L McGuane (Rich)
Rookie List: J Ceglar (Haw), S Tunbridge (WC), M White (Melb), W Fordham (NM), J Long (Ess), J Hamling (WB)
A whopping 7 from one team :o
Most of them aren't big losses, but man that's unlucky
:o never seen anything at this level.... adding Duffield and Crowley making it 13 (including Waters), with Pavlich also most likely
That's brutal. :o
Wow........that's terrible list management.
No wonder Adamant is doing a total rebuild
Ada is the Asian Ross Lyon who can actually win premierships lol.
Can't blame him, he was going for a three-pete
And let's be honest, are any of them in the best 20?
Quote from: nostradamus on October 08, 2015, 11:02:25 PM
Wow........that's terrible list management.
No wonder Adamant is doing a total rebuild
I don't know, I'm pretty happy with two flags. :P Didn't want to die wondering in the search of a third!
Rico is spot on too, most of those guys are spuds anyway. Also if anyone is interested I still have the following players that I am looking to move:
Lachie Hansen
Sam Mitchell
Aaron Sandilands
Probably looking at 2 for 1 type deals, or alternatively I can accept draft picks for them.
Quote from: Adamant on October 08, 2015, 11:42:03 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on October 08, 2015, 11:02:25 PM
Wow........that's terrible list management.
No wonder Adamant is doing a total rebuild
I don't know, I'm pretty happy with two flags. :P Didn't want to die wondering in the search of a third!
Rico is spot on too, most of those guys are spuds anyway. Also if anyone is interested I still have the following players that I am looking to move:
Lachie Hansen
Sam Mitchell
Aaron Sandilands
Probably looking at 2 for 1 type deals, or alternatively I can accept draft picks for them.
Don't get me wrong l think you're doing an incredible job rejuvinating your list ......... so many excellent young players added so far
Probably said this before... but Jed Adcock, Jayden Short, Tanner Smith and Sam Schulz are going cheaply if anyone wants them. :P
A package or Ryan Harwood + Lachie Whitfield (and potentially our first rounder) available for an elite mid.
Joel Selwood could potentially be available for trade. Still undecided on whether I'm going to trade him or not but feel free to send through your offers for him.
Remember he averaged 128 this year in a down season by his standards, and with Dangerfield set to join the Cats he should be back to a 140+ average for sure.
Quote from: Adamant on October 10, 2015, 11:03:02 PM
Joel Selwood could potentially be available for trade. Still undecided on whether I'm going to trade him or not but feel free to send through your offers for him.
Remember he averaged 128 this year in a down season by his standards, and with Dangerfield set to join the Cats he should be back to a 140+ average for sure.
sounds like dodgy car salesman lol
Anyone want rookie 4?
Ted Richards & Sean Dempster up for trade.
Would only be a short term fix for a season or 2
Quote from: nrich102 on October 12, 2015, 09:40:45 PM
Anyone want rookie 4?
What sort of players can I get with rookie four? Is there a list of undrafted AFL players somewhere?
Quote from: PowerBug on October 15, 2015, 10:21:21 AM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 12, 2015, 09:40:45 PM
Anyone want rookie 4?
What sort of players can I get with rookie four? Is there a list of undrafted AFL players somewhere?
This thread will give you the best idea http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,99028.0.html (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,99028.0.html)
Under the "2014 Rookie / Pre-Season Draft Pool" section any player who is not in red I think is available in this year's rookie draft at this stage.
Cheers
Looks like there's a few options there.
No-one picked up Josh Bruce last season?
He'd be a gem in the rookie draft...
Quote from: Memphistopheles on October 15, 2015, 02:04:01 PM
No-one picked up Josh Bruce last season?
He'd be a gem in the rookie draft...
He's on Vietnam's list. I think BB forgot to put a few players in red as guys like Gregson and Andrews are also on lists.
Quote from: Adamant on October 15, 2015, 02:12:03 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on October 15, 2015, 02:04:01 PM
No-one picked up Josh Bruce last season?
He'd be a gem in the rookie draft...
He's on Vietnam's list. I think BB forgot to put a few players in red as guys like Gregson and Andrews are also on lists.
Yes! Hands off!!
Who has Dean Gore. trade? ;D
:-[
Quote from: Nige on October 15, 2015, 06:41:37 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 15, 2015, 05:26:00 PM
Who has Dean Gore. trade? ;D
Good luck. ;)
According to some fruit loops supporters, Dean Gore is better than Dangerfield now (But last week he wasn't? ???), so just ask for tbag to give someone Dangerfield's quality in return. Like Wingard or something :P (Even tho Wingard is better than Danger)
Giles will be gone by this time tomorrow.
Whoever has Jake Carlisle, do you want to trade for Pick 5?
Deal is voided if any video surfaces of him snorting coke
Quote from: Rusty00 on October 22, 2015, 05:23:58 PM
Whoever has Jake Carlisle, do you want to trade for Pick 5?
Deal is voided if any video surfaces of him snorting coke
It may actually turn out better for him, like Bennell's may do ;)
Quote from: Ricochet on October 22, 2015, 05:32:24 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on October 22, 2015, 05:23:58 PM
Whoever has Jake Carlisle, do you want to trade for Pick 5?
Deal is voided if any video surfaces of him snorting coke
It may actually turn out better for him, like Bennell's may do ;)
BB has the pepsi man
Still open to trades.
Sorry if you've PM'd me lately and I haven't replied. Just started a new job and things have been hectic.
Try again if you like any of my players and we'll see if we can do a deal.
Announcement from the Crabs
Brad McKenzie, Ryan Lester and Tom Curren will be seeking new homes for season 2016. If they don't find a new home then they will be delisted from the Crabs. We are happy to look at a pick upgrade and/or pick for any or all of these guys.
If you are searching for depth, then send Nostra and myself a message with an enquiry.
Thank you for your time!
Quote from: Rids on October 26, 2015, 02:26:16 PM
Announcement from the Crabs
Brad McKenzie, Ryan Lester and Tom Curren will be seeking new homes for season 2016. If they don't find a new home then they will be delisted from the Crabs. We are happy to look at a pick upgrade and/or pick for any or all of these guys.
If you are searching for depth, then send Nostra and myself a message with an enquiry.
Thank you for your time!
Brad McKenzie left for anyone that is after him. We are happy couple nat 24 + nat 25 + McKenzie for an earlier pick.
If this interests then message myself and Nostra.
R Griffen, D Zaharakas, Nathan Jones if anyone is interested.
Looking for A Forward.
**Note** Currently in the USA so IF anyone does PM, will be getting back to you asap.
Looking to move on the following depth guys: Jeremy Laidler, Simon White, Tyson Goldsack, David Mackay.
Let me know if you're interested, will accept draft picks or pick upgrades (or speculative youngster if you want)
A general question........which l think others will be wondering/concerned about too.
When will trades be getting processed here in AXV? ........none have been done since the 25th of October.
It hard to plan future moves when current trades languish unattended.
And with the trade deadline looming in a matter of weeks I'm concerned this is time that we can't really afford to be wasting.
**I realise BB said he would be busy and understand that life really does have to take priority, but maybe Rico could step in and adjudicate on the ones that he isn't involved in
Yep thats fair mate, ill follow up with BB. We usually give them a few days before assessing so that's why the two I'm not involved in from the 30th haven't been done yet even tho I've been around. I'll have a look at them this morning but they look fine
Quote from: Ricochet on November 04, 2015, 11:09:24 AM
Yep thats fair mate, ill follow up with BB. We usually give them a few days before assessing so that's why the two I'm not involved in from the 30th haven't been done yet even tho I've been around. I'll have a look at them this morning but they look fine
Cheers man ......... appreciated 8)
Quote from: nostradamus on November 04, 2015, 11:15:46 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 04, 2015, 11:09:24 AM
Yep thats fair mate, ill follow up with BB. We usually give them a few days before assessing so that's why the two I'm not involved in from the 30th haven't been done yet even tho I've been around. I'll have a look at them this morning but they look fine
Cheers man ......... appreciated 8)
+1 Thanks
Anyone interested in a pick swap? I'll give 1 pick for 2 lower picks.
***Announcement from the Crabs
We would like to thank everyone who we have traded with this trade period. We are now officially closed for business until the second trade period opens.
As always, feel free to keep sending the messages but Nostra (health issues) and I (work commitments) will be around a little less until the drafts.
Cheers guys and gals!
Anyone interested in the following depth guys: Jeremy Laidler, Simon White, Tyson Goldsack, David Mackay.
Would be happy with earlyish rookie picks or late national draft picks. Or alternatively a pick upgrade for ND 37 or any of my rookie picks 5, 21, 37, 41
Quote from: Rusty00 on November 14, 2015, 10:03:17 PM
Anyone interested in the following depth guys: Jeremy Laidler, Simon White, Tyson Goldsack, David Mackay.
Would be happy with earlyish rookie picks or late national draft picks. Or alternatively a pick upgrade for ND 37 or any of my rookie picks 5, 21, 37, 41
PNG Head Hunters give Jeremy Laidler.
UAE Tigers give Rookie Pick #30.
PNG get their early Rookie Draft Pick & UAE get some depth down back.
PNG to Confirm.
Quote from: nas on November 16, 2015, 10:03:26 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on November 14, 2015, 10:03:17 PM
Anyone interested in the following depth guys: Jeremy Laidler, Simon White, Tyson Goldsack, David Mackay.
Would be happy with earlyish rookie picks or late national draft picks. Or alternatively a pick upgrade for ND 37 or any of my rookie picks 5, 21, 37, 41
PNG Head Hunters give Jeremy Laidler.
UAE Tigers give Rookie Pick #30.
PNG get their early Rookie Draft Pick & UAE get some depth down back.
PNG to Confirm.
Wrong thread Nas, I'll post it across in the official trades thread ;)
Need a couple more late national draft picks for rookie upgrades. Can offer up Tyson Goldsack, Simon White, David Mackay or R41. The ND pick can be as late as you want.
Hit me up :)
Our picks:
Nat: 40, 41, 42, 43, 45
Rook: 53, 57, 73
Are on the table for slightly better picks
Also Hansen, Lester, Curren are also on the table for slightly better players
Still looking to move Sam Mitchell and Aaron Sandilands. Hit me up if keen.
Our picks:
Nat: 23, 40, 41, 42, 43, 45
Rook: 53, 57, 73
Are on the table for better picks
Also Hansen, Lester, Curren are also on the table for slightly better players
Looking to trade NAT Picks 49 or 65 for a couple of late picks so I can do some rookie upgrades. I can even package in some later rookie picks if required.
Rookie Pick 1 is also on the table if anyone has any late offers!
He's been delisted by the Lions but might get picked up per the rumours floating around, so if anyone wants Jed Adcock, happy to trade him for the best offer. Get them in before the deadline!
Have some quality young players available if someone wants to give me a decent (top 30 or rookie) draft pick or aging star?
Jarryd Lyons, Luke Brown, Andy Otten, Jackson Ramsey, Clay Smith, Jay Kennedy-Harris, Brodie Murdoch, Jack Fitzpatrick, Sam May, Michael Talia
Anyone up for a last minute trade?
http://ffchat.wix.com/chat (http://ffchat.wix.com/chat)
Hey guys, looking to start trade talks a little early since i already missed the first
Im willing to put almost any of my defenders on the table for forwards, these include
Tom Langdon, Easton Wood, Dane Rampe, Adam Saad, Adam Oxley, Mark Baguely, Sam Fisher, Harry Taylor and possibly Michael Hurley if it was for a premo forward of similar talent :D
Also happy to discuss any trades so hit me up :)
So turns out we may actually need MIDS :o
Fwds: Barlow, Buddy, HBennell, Dahlhaus, Darling, Mayne
Expected Bennell and Dahlhaus to lose it
Soooo throwing up Chris Mayne for a Mid, 111ave fwd this year. And went 119.5 two years ago
Just suits this system, loves a tackle and kicks goals
Can add more if need be
Considering Barlow, Harley and Dahl are all DPP and you already have like GAJ, Pendles, Beams, Libba, NDS, Sidey and there are probs others I'm forgetting, I don't think ya do. :P
Yeah Ric, I don't think you lack mids :P
Quote from: Nige on December 14, 2015, 12:35:45 PM
Considering Barlow, Harley and Dahl are all DPP and you already have like GAJ, Pendles, Beams, Libba, NDS, Sidey and there are probs others I'm forgetting, I don't think ya do. :P
Pffft don't come around here with your logic
Barlow fwd
/mid, Bennell fwd
/mid, Buddy, Dahlhaus fwd
/mid, Darling, Mayne
See, too many fwds
Quote from: Ricochet on December 14, 2015, 12:41:40 PM
Quote from: Nige on December 14, 2015, 12:35:45 PM
Considering Barlow, Harley and Dahl are all DPP and you already have like GAJ, Pendles, Beams, Libba, NDS, Sidey and there are probs others I'm forgetting, I don't think ya do. :P
Pffft don't come around here with your logic
Barlow fwd/mid, Bennell fwd/mid, Buddy, Dahlhaus fwd/mid, Darling, Mayne
See, too many fwds
Don't come around here asking for more mids. :P
Quote from: Nige on December 14, 2015, 12:44:06 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 14, 2015, 12:41:40 PM
Quote from: Nige on December 14, 2015, 12:35:45 PM
Considering Barlow, Harley and Dahl are all DPP and you already have like GAJ, Pendles, Beams, Libba, NDS, Sidey and there are probs others I'm forgetting, I don't think ya do. :P
Pffft don't come around here with your logic
Barlow fwd/mid, Bennell fwd/mid, Buddy, Dahlhaus fwd/mid, Darling, Mayne
See, too many fwds
Don't come around here asking for more mids. :P
I only want Rocky... surely that's not too much to ask for
Quote from: Ricochet on December 14, 2015, 12:52:49 PM
Quote from: Nige on December 14, 2015, 12:44:06 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 14, 2015, 12:41:40 PM
Quote from: Nige on December 14, 2015, 12:35:45 PM
Considering Barlow, Harley and Dahl are all DPP and you already have like GAJ, Pendles, Beams, Libba, NDS, Sidey and there are probs others I'm forgetting, I don't think ya do. :P
Pffft don't come around here with your logic
Barlow fwd/mid, Bennell fwd/mid, Buddy, Dahlhaus fwd/mid, Darling, Mayne
See, too many fwds
Don't come around here asking for more mids. :P
I only want Rocky... surely that's not too much to ask for
Settle.
Quote from: Ricochet on December 14, 2015, 12:52:49 PM
Quote from: Nige on December 14, 2015, 12:44:06 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 14, 2015, 12:41:40 PM
Quote from: Nige on December 14, 2015, 12:35:45 PM
Considering Barlow, Harley and Dahl are all DPP and you already have like GAJ, Pendles, Beams, Libba, NDS, Sidey and there are probs others I'm forgetting, I don't think ya do. :P
Pffft don't come around here with your logic
Barlow fwd/mid, Bennell fwd/mid, Buddy, Dahlhaus fwd/mid, Darling, Mayne
See, too many fwds
Don't come around here asking for more mids. :P
I only want Rocky... surely that's not too much to ask for
>:D
Quote from: Rusty00 on December 14, 2015, 03:22:21 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 14, 2015, 12:52:49 PM
Quote from: Nige on December 14, 2015, 12:44:06 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 14, 2015, 12:41:40 PM
Quote from: Nige on December 14, 2015, 12:35:45 PM
Considering Barlow, Harley and Dahl are all DPP and you already have like GAJ, Pendles, Beams, Libba, NDS, Sidey and there are probs others I'm forgetting, I don't think ya do. :P
Pffft don't come around here with your logic
Barlow fwd/mid, Bennell fwd/mid, Buddy, Dahlhaus fwd/mid, Darling, Mayne
See, too many fwds
Don't come around here asking for more mids. :P
I only want Rocky... surely that's not too much to ask for
>:D
Rusty i still don't understand why you didn't accept Will Hams for him. Rookie mistake
Question.. Are we able to upgrade Rookies before the Season starts?
If let's say Alex Johnson retires because of ongoing injuries, are we able to upgrade Gregson for him and take another pick for the rookie list?
We also still have Golby on our Seniors list and don't think he got an AFL contract. Can we upgrade a Rookie for Golby?
Quote from: upthemaidens on December 14, 2015, 03:40:43 PM
Question.. Are we able to upgrade Rookies before the Season starts?
If let's say Alex Johnson retires because of ongoing injuries, are we able to upgrade Gregson for him and take another pick for the rookie list?
We also still have Golby on our Seniors list and don't think he got an AFL contract. Can we upgrade a Rookie for Golby?
As soon as they retire you can upgrade a rookie. I don't think you'd get another pick now though since delistings have been submitted. Although there is a rule that if a player is no longer on an AFL list, he cannot be on a AXV list, so you could argue for an extra pick if the rookie draft is still open. Once the draft is over though I think you'd definitely be stuck with him.
BB would have to confirm that ^
I'll see if i can find the rule on upgrading after a player retires
EDIT: here it is
Quote from: Colliwobblers on August 15, 2012, 11:48:38 PM
LONG TERM INJURY LIST
*You may place a player on an AXV Long Term Injury List if the player:
a) Is placed on an AFL LTI
b) Has their injury listed as 8 weeks or more on their AFL Club's Official Injury List, at the time of moving them onto the list
c) Is sacked mid-season by their AFL Club
d) Retires with immediate effect from their AFL Club
*When you place a player on your AXV LTI, you may promote a player on your rookie list until they are back. This allows you to play the rookie listed player in your starting squad.
*AXV Rookies are not eligible to play seniors unless they have been upgraded by their AXV Club
*The rookie upgraded for any player cannot be changed unless/when that player comes off the LTI
*As soon as a player comes off their AFL Club's injury list (if the situation involved an injured player) they come off their AXV Club's LTI, and the promoted player return to the rookie list
On Golby, you'll get a supp pick for him at the end of the rookie draft
OK cool. Thanks. So would we be able to upgrade a rookie for Golby and then the top-up pick(if there's one) goes on our Rookie list instead of Seniors?
Quote from: upthemaidens on December 14, 2015, 03:54:56 PM
OK cool. Thanks. So would we be able to upgrade a rookie for Golby and then the top-up pick(if there's one) goes on our Rookie list instead of Seniors?
Nope. Because you need to use a Nat pick to upgrade a rookie to the senior list. So by hanging onto Golby in the hope he got picked up you gave up that chance (like I did with a few boys as well). You now just get an extra pick at the end of this draft
EDIT: You'll be able to use pick 61 that you were originally passing on
Quote from: Ricochet on December 14, 2015, 03:57:49 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on December 14, 2015, 03:54:56 PM
OK cool. Thanks. So would we be able to upgrade a rookie for Golby and then the top-up pick(if there's one) goes on our Rookie list instead of Seniors?
Nope. Because you need to use a Nat pick to upgrade a rookie to the senior list. So by hanging onto Golby in the hope he got picked up you gave up that chance (like I did with a few boys as well). You now just get an extra pick at the end of this draft
So that extra pick just goes onto the Seniors list to fill Golbys spot?
And if Johnson retires in the pre-season then we are allowed to upgrade a rookie to cover his retirement.
Quote from: upthemaidens on December 14, 2015, 04:05:35 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 14, 2015, 03:57:49 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on December 14, 2015, 03:54:56 PM
OK cool. Thanks. So would we be able to upgrade a rookie for Golby and then the top-up pick(if there's one) goes on our Rookie list instead of Seniors?
Nope. Because you need to use a Nat pick to upgrade a rookie to the senior list. So by hanging onto Golby in the hope he got picked up you gave up that chance (like I did with a few boys as well). You now just get an extra pick at the end of this draft
So that extra pick just goes onto the Seniors list to fill Golbys spot?
And if Johnson retires in the pre-season then we are allowed to upgrade a rookie to cover his retirement.
Yep. Like a few have been doing, you can choose when you make your pick if it goes on the senior list or rookie list (if you have spots left one your senior list that is). One thing to remember though is players drafted in AFL Rookie draft, HAVE to go on a rookie list in AXVs. Players available in other pools in our rookie draft here can go on either the senior or rookie list
Yes on Johnson.
Quote from: Ricochet on December 14, 2015, 04:09:14 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on December 14, 2015, 04:05:35 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 14, 2015, 03:57:49 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on December 14, 2015, 03:54:56 PM
OK cool. Thanks. So would we be able to upgrade a rookie for Golby and then the top-up pick(if there's one) goes on our Rookie list instead of Seniors?
Nope. Because you need to use a Nat pick to upgrade a rookie to the senior list. So by hanging onto Golby in the hope he got picked up you gave up that chance (like I did with a few boys as well). You now just get an extra pick at the end of this draft
So that extra pick just goes onto the Seniors list to fill Golbys spot?
And if Johnson retires in the pre-season then we are allowed to upgrade a rookie to cover his retirement.
Yep. Like a few have been doing, you can choose when you make your pick if it goes on the senior list or rookie list (if you have spots left one your senior list that is). One thing to remember though is players drafted in AFL Rookie draft, HAVE to go on a rookie list in AXVs. Players available in other pools in our rookie draft here can go on either the senior or rookie list
Yes on Johnson.
OK well pretty sure we have a full list of 40/6 now , but that includes Golby.
So we just wait until the end of the draft and then get a replacement from the remaining players once the draft is complete?
Quote from: upthemaidens on December 14, 2015, 04:21:06 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 14, 2015, 04:09:14 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on December 14, 2015, 04:05:35 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 14, 2015, 03:57:49 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on December 14, 2015, 03:54:56 PM
OK cool. Thanks. So would we be able to upgrade a rookie for Golby and then the top-up pick(if there's one) goes on our Rookie list instead of Seniors?
Nope. Because you need to use a Nat pick to upgrade a rookie to the senior list. So by hanging onto Golby in the hope he got picked up you gave up that chance (like I did with a few boys as well). You now just get an extra pick at the end of this draft
So that extra pick just goes onto the Seniors list to fill Golbys spot?
And if Johnson retires in the pre-season then we are allowed to upgrade a rookie to cover his retirement.
Yep. Like a few have been doing, you can choose when you make your pick if it goes on the senior list or rookie list (if you have spots left one your senior list that is). One thing to remember though is players drafted in AFL Rookie draft, HAVE to go on a rookie list in AXVs. Players available in other pools in our rookie draft here can go on either the senior or rookie list
Yes on Johnson.
OK well pretty sure we have a full list of 40/6 now , but that includes Golby.
So we just wait until the end of the draft and then get a replacement from the remaining players once the draft is complete?
Nah you can use your R61 that you were passing on
Quote from: Ricochet on December 14, 2015, 04:26:07 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on December 14, 2015, 04:21:06 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 14, 2015, 04:09:14 PM
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Quote from: Ricochet on December 14, 2015, 03:57:49 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on December 14, 2015, 03:54:56 PM
OK cool. Thanks. So would we be able to upgrade a rookie for Golby and then the top-up pick(if there's one) goes on our Rookie list instead of Seniors?
Nope. Because you need to use a Nat pick to upgrade a rookie to the senior list. So by hanging onto Golby in the hope he got picked up you gave up that chance (like I did with a few boys as well). You now just get an extra pick at the end of this draft
So that extra pick just goes onto the Seniors list to fill Golbys spot?
And if Johnson retires in the pre-season then we are allowed to upgrade a rookie to cover his retirement.
Yep. Like a few have been doing, you can choose when you make your pick if it goes on the senior list or rookie list (if you have spots left one your senior list that is). One thing to remember though is players drafted in AFL Rookie draft, HAVE to go on a rookie list in AXVs. Players available in other pools in our rookie draft here can go on either the senior or rookie list
Yes on Johnson.
OK well pretty sure we have a full list of 40/6 now , but that includes Golby.
So we just wait until the end of the draft and then get a replacement from the remaining players once the draft is complete?
Nah you can use your R61 that you were passing on
Thanks Rico, we'll do that then. Looks like Golby will be playing with Port Melbourne in the VFL :(
Another query then :) If let's say Golby gets a future AFL contract, do the Strikers get first preference on him?
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OK cool. Thanks. So would we be able to upgrade a rookie for Golby and then the top-up pick(if there's one) goes on our Rookie list instead of Seniors?
Nope. Because you need to use a Nat pick to upgrade a rookie to the senior list. So by hanging onto Golby in the hope he got picked up you gave up that chance (like I did with a few boys as well). You now just get an extra pick at the end of this draft
So that extra pick just goes onto the Seniors list to fill Golbys spot?
And if Johnson retires in the pre-season then we are allowed to upgrade a rookie to cover his retirement.
Yep. Like a few have been doing, you can choose when you make your pick if it goes on the senior list or rookie list (if you have spots left one your senior list that is). One thing to remember though is players drafted in AFL Rookie draft, HAVE to go on a rookie list in AXVs. Players available in other pools in our rookie draft here can go on either the senior or rookie list
Yes on Johnson.
OK well pretty sure we have a full list of 40/6 now , but that includes Golby.
So we just wait until the end of the draft and then get a replacement from the remaining players once the draft is complete?
Nah you can use your R61 that you were passing on
Thanks Rico, we'll do that then. Looks like Golby will be playing with Port Melbourne in the VFL :(
Another query then :) If let's say Golby gets a future AFL contract, do the Strikers get first preference on him?
No worries man. I don't believe we have that rule like in Worlds. Might be worth bringing up in the rule discussion thread actually
Oh sorry this is the wrong thread, was meant for the official discussion thread. If you want to move/remove it, please do so.
Keen to start trade talks since i missed the first trade period :P
Josh P Kennedy could potentially be on the table for Mid(s)/Fwd(s) (no interested in Defenders :P)
Pretty much anyones on the table except Tom Mitchell, this is my list below :P
Def: M Hurley (Ess), T Langdon (Coll), H Taylor (Geel), D Rampe (Syd), A Saad (GC), E Wood (WB), S Fisher (StK), M Baguely (Ess), A Oxley (Coll), D McStay (Bris), A Litherland (Haw), B Grey (Freo), C Smith (Carl)
Mid: P Dangerfield (Geel), JP Kennedy (Syd), T Mitchell (Syd), J Watson (Ess), B Ellis (Rich), M Duncan (Geel), B Ah Chee (Port), B Keays (Bris), B Newton (Melb), H Balic (Freo), M Shaw (GC), J Jansen (Bris)
Ruck: I Maric (Rich), J Griffin (Freo)
Fwd: J Watts (Melb), T Vickery (Rich), J Anderson (NM), K Lambert (Rich), B Brown (NM), S Edwards (Ess), L McBean (Rich), J Butcher (Port), R McKenzie (Rich), F McInnes (WC), S Kersten (Geel)
Rookie List: M Taberner (Freo), C Delaney (NM), G Nyuon (Ess), J Snadden (WC)
Zander sorry to say but Oxley is mid only mate
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Zander sorry to say but Oxley is mid only mate
Yeah i know mate, i just copied and pasted it from Adas list and didn't change any dpps
For those teams looking at a finals position next year some of these guys might be of interest, with the exception of Fisher, these guys have several years left in them still. Looking for younger players :)
Harry Taylor - 95 av (3 years on contract)
Mark Baguely - 98 av
Sam Fisher - 92 av
Jobe Watson - 114 struggled with injury this year a lot but is a proven pro former, last 3 years 135, 127, 148 av.
To a lesser extent these blokes as well
JPK - 138 av
Easton Wood - 94 av
Adam Saad - 81 av
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For those teams looking at a finals position next year some of these guys might be of interest, with the exception of Fisher, these guys have several years left in them still. Looking for younger players :)
Harry Taylor - 95 av (3 years on contract)
Mark Baguely - 98 av
Sam Fisher - 92 av
To a lesser extent these blokes as well
JPK - 138 av
Easton Wood - 94 av
Adam Saad - 81 av
Ill be heading away for a little while soon so hoping to get some trading done before then :P
Patrick Dangerfield could be on his way out so if you're interested send in your offers :P
Willing to hear offers for pretty much anyway except Titchell, so hit me up :P Above players are still available too.
Looking for a young ruckman, willing to trade Ivan Maric + something for a younger ruck or alternately just trade other players for a ruck.
Willing to hear trade offers for any of my players except Titchell, particularly looking for youth so if you're going for a top 4 finish and want some more proven proformers and willing to give up some youth hit me up :P
iZander
The Dolphins have the following players available for trade. I'm looking for young talent in return and/or a back-up ruckman. Midfielders especially.
Zac Tuohy, Travis Varcoe, Tory Dickson, Ben Griffiths, Will Langford and Jordan Murdoch.
Others may be available for the right price.
Can I have Peter Wright back Memph? :'(
I need a backup ruck now that Ryder is gone for the year. My team thread is almost up to date I'm just working on the player positions (and DPPs) now.
http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,99554.0.html
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Can I have Peter Wright back Memph? :'(
I need a backup ruck now that Ryder is gone for the year. My team thread is almost up to date I'm just working on the player positions (and DPPs) now.
http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,99554.0.html
If you trade me something suitable for him then maybe. Though my ruck depth is pretty poor as well...
When does this 2nd trade period close?
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When does this 2nd trade period close?
When does it start? :o :o :o ::)
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When does this 2nd trade period close?
When does it start? :o :o :o ::)
Ages ago mate. Started after the drafts I think...
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When does this 2nd trade period close?
When does it start? :o :o :o ::)
Ages ago mate. Started after the drafts I think...
It was a joke due to the inactivity here :P
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When does this 2nd trade period close?
Did we ever find the answer to this? :P
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When does this 2nd trade period close?
Did we ever find the answer to this? :P
Maybe before the start of the NAB?
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When does this 2nd trade period close?
Did we ever find the answer to this? :P
Maybe before the start of the NAB?
yeah says in trade thread that it will be before NAB :P but says date is TBC
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When does this 2nd trade period close?
Did we ever find the answer to this? :P
Maybe before the start of the NAB?
yeah says in trade thread that it will be before NAB :P but says date is TBC
We never decided on an exact date, so this is something the new admins will need to take a look at.
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When does this 2nd trade period close?
Did we ever find the answer to this? :P
Maybe before the start of the NAB?
yeah says in trade thread that it will be before NAB :P but says date is TBC
We never decided on an exact date, so this is something the new admins will need to take a look at.
1st game is Thursday, 18/02. Getting close.
Anyone keen to do some late trading hit me up, below are the players that can be traded :P Looking for any position but particularly forwards or ruck :)
Def: H Taylor (Geel), A Saad (GC), E Wood (WB), S Fisher (StK), M Baguely (Ess), D McStay (Bris), A Litherland (Haw), C Smith (Carl)
Mid: P Dangerfield (Geel), JP Kennedy (Syd), M Duncan (Geel), A Oxley (Coll), B Keays (Bris), M Shaw (GC), J Jansen (Bris)
Ruck: I Maric (Rich), J Griffin (Freo)
Fwd: J Watts (Melb), T Vickery (Rich), S Edwards (Ess), B Newton (Melb), H Balic (Freo), L McBean (Rich), J Butcher (Port), R McKenzie (Rich), F McInnes (WC), S Kersten (Geel), Y Eades (Ess), J Hunt (Melb)
iZander
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Anyone keen to do some late trading hit me up, below are the players that can be traded :P Looking for any position but particularly forwards or ruck :)
Def: H Taylor (Geel), A Saad (GC), E Wood (WB), S Fisher (StK), M Baguely (Ess), D McStay (Bris), A Litherland (Haw), C Smith (Carl)
Mid: P Dangerfield (Geel), JP Kennedy (Syd), M Duncan (Geel), A Oxley (Coll), B Keays (Bris), M Shaw (GC), J Jansen (Bris)
Ruck: I Maric (Rich), J Griffin (Freo)
Fwd: J Watts (Melb), T Vickery (Rich), S Edwards (Ess), B Newton (Melb), H Balic (Freo), L McBean (Rich), J Butcher (Port), R McKenzie (Rich), F McInnes (WC), S Kersten (Geel), Y Eades (Ess), J Hunt (Melb)
iZander
We'll still take JPK please :P
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Anyone keen to do some late trading hit me up, below are the players that can be traded :P Looking for any position but particularly forwards or ruck :)
Def: H Taylor (Geel), A Saad (GC), E Wood (WB), S Fisher (StK), M Baguely (Ess), D McStay (Bris), A Litherland (Haw), C Smith (Carl)
Mid: P Dangerfield (Geel), JP Kennedy (Syd), M Duncan (Geel), A Oxley (Coll), B Keays (Bris), M Shaw (GC), J Jansen (Bris)
Ruck: I Maric (Rich), J Griffin (Freo)
Fwd: J Watts (Melb), T Vickery (Rich), S Edwards (Ess), B Newton (Melb), H Balic (Freo), L McBean (Rich), J Butcher (Port), R McKenzie (Rich), F McInnes (WC), S Kersten (Geel), Y Eades (Ess), J Hunt (Melb)
iZander
We'll still take JPK please :P
Then hit me up then :P
Dangerfield could be on the move so if you'd like to make an offer feel free
Mongolia keen on Forward Youth and a Captaincy Option, everyone theoretically on the trade table so if you have any offers let me know ;D
UAE Tigers could be persuaded to trade mids:> Swan / Mundy / Hodge / Goddard.
Def:> Dempster / Richards /Gibson. ** Note these would be as a short term fix.**
Need some youth in the midfield & defence.
Having done 3 for this period, have 2 more trades available.
All offers considered