Great win on the road last night in a match I thought we'd struggle in
Personally impressed by White and Crisp
Victory against Brisbane always a good thing
Very good start by our boys. Lots of positives and our resolve to hold in there at the end was fantastic. Also liked Crisps game, but I was most impressed by Taylor Adams who played his best game for the club and really stood up in Beams' absence
Personally disappointed though that De Goey didn't get much of a run when we really needed his extra spark and pace (especially when the game seemed dead and blokes were tiring) and it sucks to see that Sidey will be out for 4-6 weeks just like he was last year.
Adelaide at home this week, not confident at all after their showing against NM but we'll hopefully give it our best shot.
Did Reid play this week??? Could he come in at all?
Cloke, he will be the difference this week. ;D
I don't know a lot about thumb injuries but I'm assuming Sidey will be able to train as per normal (excluding contact and ball drills)
So does he just do another preseason?
I assume so mate, and we saw last year after his mini preseason (4 weeks off) he came back and absolutely killed it while others were starting to fatigue and slow down.
I'm thinking I'll jump straight back on when he returns, or plan to do so during the byes.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-04-10/id-forgotten-completely
Sorry Mr. Crisp... it's not like it is complicated. DON'T BET ON THE AFL. What, you want a day seminar explaining what not to do?
Example of agenda for 'Don't gamble' seminar:
9:00-9:15am - Meet and greet, coffee/juice provided
9:15am-9:16am - Seminar on 'Don't gamble on AFL matches'
9:17am - Meeting close.
Quote from: ossie85 on April 10, 2015, 01:23:11 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-04-10/id-forgotten-completely
Sorry Mr. Crisp... it's not like it is complicated. DON'T BET ON THE AFL. What, you want a day seminar explaining what not to do?
Example of agenda for 'Don't gamble' seminar:
9:00-9:15am - Meet and greet, coffee/juice provided
9:15am-9:16am - Seminar on 'Don't gamble on AFL matches'
9:17am - Meeting close.
ha, ha! Comedy gold oss! :D
it's for this sort of reason that 'ignorance of the law is no defence' ... ;)
Quote from: ossie85 on April 10, 2015, 01:23:11 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-04-10/id-forgotten-completely
Sorry Mr. Crisp... it's not like it is complicated. DON'T BET ON THE AFL. What, you want a day seminar explaining what not to do?
Example of agenda for 'Don't gamble' seminar:
9:00-9:15am - Meet and greet, coffee/juice provided
9:15am-9:16am - Seminar on 'Don't gamble on AFL matches'
9:17am - Meeting close.
Bit short isn't it?
I like to drink my coffee slowly so would need more than 5 minutes.
So a bad loss to Adelaide with a strong rebound win against St. Kilda.
Still not sure where we at - 4th? 8th? 12th? I'm still leaning towards 7-10 as our finishing spot.
Swanny might be a dark horse for a 2nd Brownlow though! Looks to have found his freedom again
Quote from: ossie85 on April 20, 2015, 02:08:07 PM
So a bad loss to Adelaide with a strong rebound win against St. Kilda.
Still not sure where we at - 4th? 8th? 12th? I'm still leaning towards 7-10 as our finishing spot.
Swanny might be a dark horse for a 2nd Brownlow though! Looks to have found his freedom again
We are missing alot of depth from our midfield currently, maccaffer, sidebottom, greenwood, thomas, Adams (missing rd 3), Kennedy,young and also Sinclair and Reid
Still think we are about about a 12th placed side fellas. It's going to be a long year.
I really wish toovey could kick. Broomhead is exciting as hell.
All these Dangerfield rumours, thoughts? I would prefer to spend the money on trying to get Treloar and Aish rather than dangerfield, but obviously would not complain if danger chooses pies. Would probably enjoy not being first tagged for the first time in a long time
Where's Benny Kennedy at!! Love him as a player, would love to see him nab some games soon!
Some very poor skill levels today but very happy with the effort
Pies going good! Carlton next
How about Seedsman though? 850m gained and 14 inside 50's
Nearly 400m more than the next best and 8 more inside 50's, think they are both a very telling stat, and hopefully he continues from here because he really could be absolutely anything if he works hard enough
Another impressive game by this very young side ;D
Quote from: Cambo on May 02, 2015, 10:57:20 AM
Another impressive game by this very young side ;D
yep. Bad luck Mick
Some people are trying to discredit Malthouse 2010 by suggesting it was Buckley's idea. This troubles me. Malthouse was a fantastic coach for us.
Buckley is going along nicely though, and he's just about the most impressive coach when speaking
That was pretty impressive last night
Collingwood are excellent at uncovering small rebounding defenders!
Our team is really performing well
-the backline is working together and doing there roles
-the midfield is holding up, considering we are missing greenwood, side bottom and Macaffer
-we are also getting an even spread of goal kickers
Anyone else can't stand Jesse White? Can't wait for Witts to come in and displace him... Gault may not mark it that often but he always brings the ball to ground in front of him which is awesome. White looses the ball over the top and the opposition get possession nearly every bloody time
Quote from: Spite on May 03, 2015, 10:18:23 PM
Anyone else can't stand Jesse White? Can't wait for Witts to come in and displace him... Gault may not mark it that often but he always brings the ball to ground in front of him which is awesome. White looses the ball over the top and the opposition get possession nearly every bloody time
I don't mind white, he just doesn't get enough goals to be a dangerous kpf
Quote from: Samsturmfels on May 03, 2015, 11:24:53 PM
Quote from: Spite on May 03, 2015, 10:18:23 PM
Anyone else can't stand Jesse White? Can't wait for Witts to come in and displace him... Gault may not mark it that often but he always brings the ball to ground in front of him which is awesome. White looses the ball over the top and the opposition get possession nearly every bloody time
I don't mind white, he just doesn't get enough goals to be a dangerous kpf
^ my thoughts are similar sam
Quote from: ossie85 on May 02, 2015, 11:06:33 AM
Quote from: Cambo on May 02, 2015, 10:57:20 AM
Another impressive game by this very young side ;D
yep. Bad luck Mick
Some people are trying to discredit Malthouse 2010 by suggesting it was Buckley's idea. This troubles me. Malthouse was a fantastic coach for us.
Buckley is going along nicely though, and he's just about the most impressive coach when speaking
Spot on. What a load of shower - like him or not, MM took us to our 15th flag having started at the absolute rock bottom. Easy to forget the struggle of the 90s after he turned us around and set us up for our current success!
If you're going to blame anyone for Mick leaving to Carlton, turn your gaze towards old Eddie. He's the one who set up the 'succession' which was flowered by us actually winning a flag the year before the supposed 'changing of the guard.'
For the club to be so stubborn and not be flexible enough to make amendments was really disappointing. No way in hell was Mick going to play second fiddle to anyone, particularly not a bloke he coached a few years prior.
Not taking anything away from Buckley and what he's achieved - I love both Mick and Bucks and what they've both contributed to the club over the past decade or two.
I still have no real issue for the succession plan, although Malthouse deserves most of the credit in 2010, if we didn't have the succession plan we wouldn't have had Buckley as an assistant coach... who knows, this means we might not have won the flag that year....
So people say it destroyed our 2011 flag... but it might have helped out 2010... so I'm calling a draw at the very worst.
One thing that I love about our team this year compared to last year is that we seem to be playing more taller players
Oxley, Crisp, Karnezis, Gault, Seedsman, Pendlebury, Langdon, Grundy, Goldsack, brown, white, toovey, cloke , frost
All 189cm or over. Who played last week
Last year near the end of the year we were roughly playing 9 players 189 cm or over, which we played 14 on the weekend
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-05-19/more-surgery-in-setback-for-magpie-macaffer?utm_medium=RSS
QuoteCOLLINGWOOD midfielder Brent Macaffer's will undergo arthroscopic surgery on his troublesome knee as he recovers from a knee reconstruction.
The Magpies expect the operation to set his recovery back three to four weeks, but are hopeful the surgery will be minor.
Collingwood football manager Neil Balme told the club website that Macaffer had been struggling with his recovery from the ACL injury he suffered in August last year.
"They will have an arthroscope to see how it goes," Balme said.
"We're certainly not expecting anything too serious, but it will certainly hold him back."
:(
I've really been a fan of Jack Crisp this season.
Does anyone have some insider info. on Freeman? I'm really looking forward to his debut at AFL level (exciting player at NAT championships & TAC cup), however he has been plagued with injuries since being drafted :-\
4th on the ladder after 9 rds. Need to win next 2 games. ;D
I was ready to pack it in when North got 3 goals in a minute in the last
Quote from: ossie85 on May 31, 2015, 06:32:02 PM
I was ready to pack it in when North got 3 goals in a minute in the last
I was fully expecting us to continue to run right over the top of them and win by 7 goals so I was pretty unhappy when they got back in front during the fourth quarter. We still have a lot of room for improvement. We've only played one match where we put in a four quarter effort. Our best footy is definitely good enough to see us play finals and I actually don't feel like we're that far off being a top four side. Building very nicely.
Sounds like Greenwood to return through the VFL this week
Apparently Bucks tore his hammy off the bone but should be fine to coach on Monday.
Quote from: Nige on June 03, 2015, 06:48:50 PM
Apparently Bucks tore his hammy off the bone but should be fine to coach on Monday.
He will coach a good game
Good win over the Giants on the weekend. I expected a closer result though it may well have been if they hadn't copped so many injuries. Still, I thought we played really well for the most part and we're well placed for the second half of the season.
Our next four games are going to be a real challenge. A fortnight ago I thought the match against Freo would be a likely loss but I think we're facing them at a good time and we might be a sneaky chance to topple them. Hawthorn are out bogey team so I think that's probably a loss and they're starting to hit some better form too. I feel somewhat confident about the matches against Port and West Coast. I'm probably being a little optimistic but I reckon we will win both of those and be no worse than 10-5 after round 16.
Yep.
2 wins from next 4 will get us to finals and be a great success
1 win is minimum requirement
0 is a disaster
Levi Greenwood racked up 18 third quarter possession in the VFL over the weekend #gun #superstar
Levi worth picking as a sneaky sc draft choice for stokes do we think? Stokes has been poo since his return, season average about 75 as well :(
If he's still a free agent I'd say get on right now! Bloke is a stud, averaged 111 DT from round 7 onwards last season (would assume the SC numbers are similar)
Midfield 2016?
Pendlebury - Sidebottom - Treloar - Greenwood - Adams - Crips - De Goey - Scharenberg - Freeman - Broomhead?
Presumably you'll have Broomy at half-forward and Scharenberg at half-back to fit them all in haha
Do you think Ben Kennedy is gonna start getting more of a look in soon? Big fan of his!
Quote from: Toga on June 15, 2015, 04:05:45 PM
Do you think Ben Kennedy is gonna start getting more of a look in soon? Big fan of his!
If he doesn't, tbag will be one of many to happily welcome him home. :P
Quote from: Toga on June 15, 2015, 04:05:45 PM
Do you think Ben Kennedy is gonna start getting more of a look in soon? Big fan of his!
I don't rate him personally, hope he proves me wrong!
I once said the same thing about Alan Didak, so wtf do I know
Quote from: ossie85 on June 15, 2015, 03:52:39 PM
Midfield 2016?
Pendlebury - Sidebottom - Treloar - Greenwood - Adams - Crips - De Goey - Scharenberg - Freeman - Broomhead?
Trealoar likely to stay Pies think (todays heralds sun)
Seedsman in there with Schaz rebounding makes it look like a solid line-up 8)
So who do we give up for Treloar?
Quote from: MC on June 15, 2015, 06:14:16 PM
So who do we give up for Treloar?
Might be unpopular, but Swanny would be ideal
Quote from: MC on June 15, 2015, 06:14:16 PM
So who do we give up for Treloar?
Thats the scary part
I doubt treloar will leave tbh.
They would probably want a couple of players and an early pick I reckon.
Possibilities:
Fasolo, Ben Ken, Langdon, Marley, Sinkers, Broomhead, Gault?
Not really sure what GWS would want/need. Maybe a partner rebounding from defence for Shaw? A backup ruck for Mummy? (Not sure about their ruck depth). We'd really need to weigh up the damage to our depth/structure to see if it's worth it - particularly if they want Grundy or Witts... Not sure we can afford to let them go.
Treloar is a serious talent though, wouldn't want to let him slip if the chance is there!
C'Mon Eddie, Treloar and Dangerfield, get them in. Do what you do best, do the deals. 8)
Quote from: Ziplock on June 15, 2015, 06:29:22 PM
I doubt treloar will leave tbh.
Yeh they'd have to offer Boyd money to prise him I reckon
Quote from: Big Mac on June 15, 2015, 07:38:22 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on June 15, 2015, 06:29:22 PM
I doubt treloar will leave tbh.
Yeh they'd have to offer Boyd money to prise him I reckon
^
I honestly think they'd angle for like witts + an early pick.
Quote from: elephants on June 15, 2015, 11:42:59 AM
Levi Greenwood racked up 18 third quarter possession in the VFL over the weekend #gun #superstar
Wonder how many hit a target
;)
Quote from: Ziplock on June 15, 2015, 08:27:12 PM
Quote from: Big Mac on June 15, 2015, 07:38:22 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on June 15, 2015, 06:29:22 PM
I doubt treloar will leave tbh.
Yeh they'd have to offer Boyd money to prise him I reckon
^
I honestly think they'd angle for like witts + an early pick.
750k a season is the offered price, compared to 550k from GWS, 6 year deal. Treloar at this stage likely to stay with Giants.
All on twitter fellas.
Please take Ben Reid... He's quality! ;) I assume Gault and Marsh would be on the trade table as tall timber bait. Don't think witts or grundy will ever be up for trade tbh. We would have to give up basically all our picks in the draft - and given the lack of depth in this years draft, that seems very possible.
Quote from: ossie85 on June 15, 2015, 04:12:33 PM
Quote from: Toga on June 15, 2015, 04:05:45 PM
Do you think Ben Kennedy is gonna start getting more of a look in soon? Big fan of his!
I don't rate him personally, hope he proves me wrong!
I once said the same thing about Alan Didak, so wtf do I know
Really! I think he is class! I'm just wondering cos I would've thought there's every chance he could look for greater opportunities elsewhere soon if he doesn't start getting a gig...
Quote from: roo boys! on June 15, 2015, 08:35:50 PM
Quote from: elephants on June 15, 2015, 11:42:59 AM
Levi Greenwood racked up 18 third quarter possession in the VFL over the weekend #gun #superstar
Wonder how many hit a target
;)
Haha the bitterness is real :p
1st rounder + Fasolo or Sharenberg
they need a good young running defender and Fasolo can play multiple positions
i compare Treloar to Beams so i think the above is a similar deal to Beams
but i rated Crisp more then most before this year and has done well
pies should heavily focus on getting Danger
Quote from: Samsturmfels on June 18, 2015, 11:16:41 PM
pies should heavily focus on getting Danger
too expensive
Wato/Oss/MC
What's going on with Sidebottom?
I know Wato's backing him to return to form, do you guys think it's just a slump?
Give him time, just aninterrupted season
I'd back him to consolidate - started like a house on fire and backed up after he returned from injury. Thumb is a concern, but for under 500 I personally think he's the best bet. Barlow could bounce back but Neale taking points there I think.
Sidey is the classic risk-reward pick, with the reward outweighing the risk at the moment. Get him in!
Edit: must state that I will be bringing in Beams/Mundy/Hanners most likely by using 2 trades
Interesting....Don't have him in any comp, just curious more than anything
Wondered if he was getting less mid time, but doesn't sound like it
Quote from: Big Mac on June 30, 2015, 09:08:10 PM
Interesting....Don't have him in any comp, just curious more than anything
Wondered if he was getting less mid time, but doesn't sound like it
He's a risk of filling in down back, more useful in the middle as a link up player though imo. Seeds, Langdon, Marley and Ox more than capable of cleaning up in defence. Greenwood back soon will be interesting, Sidey is a better user though so shouldn't be too bad - plus he averaged 110 with Beams last year. Another minor concern is tough draw for a few weeks.
Safest bet would be a super prem 110-115 but Sidey worth a punt I think to save trades.
Its a bit early but which players do u guys think need to lift/improve or they'll either be delisted/traded at seasons end?
names that stand out are Dwyer, young, Armstrong, Karnezis and Gault. I'm also worried than kennedy may want to leave to enhance his playing opportunity. keefe/thomas may need to be delisted for room
For WXV reasons I've been following Young pretty closely - he's cooked
Been ordinary in the VFL all season, I think I've seen his name in the best once and has hardly got a mention, at 29 and one of the senior players at the club if he's not playing in the AFL side he's just a waste of a spot on the list
I'm a big Ben Kennedy fan and think he certainly might look elsewhere for more opportunity. Seems to be getting in the bests in the VFL pretty consistently but is struggling to get a look in the seniors given he'll come in as sub and get dropped pretty soon after. Hope he gets more gametime towards the end of the year!
Keefe and Thomas likely to be holding down a spot while suspended, not sure there's room for Young any more. Gault likely to stay unless someone makes an offer, Armstrong the classic depth player we might not need any more as well. Dwyer in trouble you'd think as well.
We've also got heaps of small fwd-mids running around, could offer one up I guess as a package to try for a free agent like Danger. Broomhead/Benken might be the one.
Just wondering, what do u guys think of suckling coming to the pies? Ive also loved his kicking.
yes we do have guys like oxley and langdon but what be the chances of us getting him?
Would be a good get. We need someone who can kick, though like you said we have a fair few good young blokes coming off hb. Whose spot does he take, Marley? Langdon? Ox?
Quote from: MC on July 07, 2015, 11:35:23 PM
Would be a good get. We need someone who can kick, though like you said we have a fair few good young blokes coming off hb. Whose spot does he take, Marley? Langdon? Ox?
no-ones, Im sure we could just give one of those guys midfield time
Would not want Suckling, he's as soft as butter and wouldn't have an ounce of knowledge on how to defend at all
What Collingwood needs RIGHT NOW is a big CHF who can have an immediate impact and just dominate games
I have no doubt that if we had another KPF with Cloke, the pies would be a top 4 side
I know we have Moore/Gault developing and Reid to come back but White/Witts/Grundy will not cut it against the best teams
No problems with our defence or midfield, but our forward line is where all the ?????? Marks lay
Quote from: Samsturmfels on July 07, 2015, 03:03:56 PM
Its a bit early but which players do u guys think need to lift/improve or they'll either be delisted/traded at seasons end?
names that stand out are Dwyer, young, Armstrong, Karnezis and Gault. I'm also worried than kennedy may want to leave to enhance his playing opportunity. keefe/thomas may need to be delisted for room
Do you write for the AFL?
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-07-15/whos-on-the-outer
Given the poor spelling, punctuation and grammar - i'd guess not! Timely post/article though.
Please guys, I've shared my displeasure about Jesse White before...please tell me you see how truly awful he is! He will forever be known as only potential, his assets on paper look far better than what is being produced week in and week out on the field.
With Cloke out, we need him to lead the forward line. It won't happen. Play Moore, as a future leader of the club, and someone who crashes packs, it gives us exactly what Jesse gives us + leadership. Gaulty can come in too, please anyone but Jesse.
On a different note, how good is Varcoe for us? He was outstanding and every week I like him more and more as a player and a person, what an incredible pick up!
He is struggling (as are we)
I'm glad you mentioned he crashes packs, as I feel that's definitely been his best asset for us. I hate how Cloke tends to hng back and try to go 1-out but ends up getting double or triple teamed. If we had a fully fit Elliott at his feet, we'd probably be singing White's praises a bit more.
Where do you guys think you'll finish?
I have you 6th but only one game ahead of 9th
Quote from: Big Mac on July 20, 2015, 08:22:18 AM
Where do you guys think you'll finish?
I have you 6th but only one game ahead of 9th
Same mate, assume we had very similar ladder predictions then. Had us losing against WB so hope we can pinch a win.
who do u guys think we will bring in for cloke? Id love to see Karnezis get one last chance
Gault showed a bit earlier this year but I reckon it has to be Karny, who has had solid vfl form lately.
Would getting Dangerfield be the biggest name the Pies have got in since Buckley?
We don't bring in many A+ graders. :-\ respect to Jolly and Ball.
Quote from: T Dog on July 23, 2015, 05:38:09 PM
Would getting Dangerfield be the biggest name the Pies have got in since Buckley?
We don't bring in many A+ graders. :-\ respect to Jolly and Ball.
Danger? More likely to land Treloar by the sounds of it
Quote from: MC on July 23, 2015, 06:31:05 PM
Quote from: T Dog on July 23, 2015, 05:38:09 PM
Would getting Dangerfield be the biggest name the Pies have got in since Buckley?
We don't bring in many A+ graders. :-\ respect to Jolly and Ball.
Danger? More likely to land Treloar by the sounds of it
Never give up...Never surrender 8)
Moore rising star nominee for sure
Cost me $400 you pricks
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on July 27, 2015, 07:42:38 PM
Cost me $400 you pricks
u bet on them without Cloke and Elliot?
Well glad that we brought Moore in. If Bucks wants to know my next suggestion, it would be dropping White, Kennedy and Maynard and bringing in Reid, Karnezis and Scharenberg. Blair needs at least 3 tackles next week to stay in the team. 0 tackles just isn't enough and his pressure was terrible.
All over gents
just loving the Kids getting a game regardless. Keep plaiyng them Bux 8)
At least if we finish low we will get a better draft pick
Quote from: Samsturmfels on August 01, 2015, 08:25:39 PM
At least if we finish low we will get a better draft pick
Will need it to nab treloar.
Also could get an easier draw next year which would be nice!
Quote from: Spite on August 02, 2015, 06:30:42 PM
Quote from: Samsturmfels on August 01, 2015, 08:25:39 PM
At least if we finish low we will get a better draft pick
Will need it to nab treloar.
Also could get an easier draw next year which would be nice!
If they do it the same as this year...
1st to 6th is one group
7th to 12th is one group
13th to 18th is one group
So no difference in draw whether you finish 7th or 12th.... and I really hope we don't finish 13th or lower
how has Matt Goodyear been going in the reserves? not heard much
That was quite painful to sit through. I'd love to be able to kick straight...last 3 losses we have kicked 7.14 then 10.16 then 7.12 for a total of 24.42 which is crazy bad. Obviously that is not our only issue but if we can get that under control, it's a start.
Quote from: Spite on August 22, 2015, 05:59:20 PM
That was quite painful to sit through. I'd love to be able to kick straight...last 3 losses we have kicked 7.14 then 10.16 then 7.12 for a total of 24.42 which is crazy bad. Obviously that is not our only issue but if we can get that under control, it's a start.
I didn't watch the game, but considering you had 9 more inside 50's I'm guessing a lot of those entries were rushed and didn't put you in a good position to kick goals
Quote from: Big Mac on August 22, 2015, 07:36:15 PM
Quote from: Spite on August 22, 2015, 05:59:20 PM
That was quite painful to sit through. I'd love to be able to kick straight...last 3 losses we have kicked 7.14 then 10.16 then 7.12 for a total of 24.42 which is crazy bad. Obviously that is not our only issue but if we can get that under control, it's a start.
I didn't watch the game, but considering you had 9 more inside 50's I'm guessing a lot of those entries were rushed and didn't put you in a good position to kick goals
Yep certainly was an issue, but before the last quarter onslaught, we had 16 more inside 50s than them to 3QT. Within those chances there were a fair few you would expect AFL footballers to put away every day of the week
The worst thing has been the entries into the F50. Almost every midfielder has just bombed it in, hoping that one of Cloke/Reid/Moore will pull a miraculous mark out of their arse every time, so bloody frustrating!
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 04, 2015, 11:01:11 PM
how has Matt Goodyear been going in the reserves? not heard much
He's had a pretty solid year and has played an impressive amount of VFL games for a rookie in his first year. Arguably a tad unlucky not to debut yet. I watching a lot of the younger guys from both the Richmond and Collingwood VFL teams really closely last week when they televised that game on 7.