Might as well get this started :)
Good news with Parker! No broken jaw only concussion
Havent watched the whole thing yet, happy we got away with one by the sounds of it.
Kind of hoped that we would come out breathing fire not have to deal with another team hungrier than us!
The rain definitely didn't help along with our slow early season starts. GWS and North last year were both raining at home and we just couldn't implement any game plan whatsoever. I think Horse struggles with team building in the rain as well to be honest.
Umpires were pretty awful as well but that's standard for a ray chamberlain match.
Why did we play Towers again? 16 possessions with 2 tackles and 1 mark at 62% DE with 85% TOG just won't cut it as a non-sub player. Wasn't happy with Jetta's effort either, was similar to the GF.
Really impressed with Tippett's ruck work, Laidler's return effort and Heeney's debut. All 3 roles should definitely be persisted with next week.
Port away this early will be tricky, but if we did it last year there's no reason why we can't do it again
Who will make way for McGlynn and McVeigh? I know Towers is a different type but I would think he would be the first to go.
Quote from: Gigantor on April 05, 2015, 11:02:17 AM
Who will make way for McGlynn and McVeigh? I know Towers is a different type but I would think he would be the first to go.
yeah interesting, I would have said laidler, but he seemed ok. Towers would be the obvious but think Heeney and Lloyd did more than enough to hold a spot.
Hopefully parker doesnt miss a game
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Very happy to hear. Looked pretty bad on the replay
Concussion and cut lip. Still a possibility to miss a week I guess but hopefully he's 100%
That is a relief on so many levels, was a late inclusion in my SC team and went from looking at 140 to using an early trade and a 98, which isn't bad...
Absolute jet, will be top 8 mid this year, AA and a sneaky Brownlow chance..
HAvemnt seen the game yet, DLing it now.
We havent played well in the rain for a while. It used to be our bread and butter
how did Tom Mitchell go in the reserves? assume wont come in with McVeigh and McGlynn coming in
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on April 07, 2015, 12:58:52 PM
how did Tom Mitchell go in the reserves? assume wont come in with McVeigh and McGlynn coming in
1st game next week
yeah, he is in trouble. The guys he is fighting against like Heeney and lloyd played pretty well.
Titch didnt play in the Swans reserves practice match v Giants on the weekend
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-04-07/docs-to-make-parker-call?utm_medium=RSS
SYDNEY Swans workhorse Luke Parker is expected to train with his teammates this week despite suffering a head knock in Saturday's thrilling AFL win over Essendon.
Parker was involved in a sickening collision with Lance Franklin in the opening minutes of the final quarter at ANZ Stadium and was immediately subbed out.
Swans coach John Longmire said on Tuesday the midfielder felt fine, but a decision on whether he plays Port Adelaide on Saturday lay ultimately with club doctors.
Will be interesting to see if he plays or not especially with the plane flight after a head knock. I know some clubs dont like players flying after a concussion
i know its Port and an early "8 point game" but I would be happy to see him miss
Even though he is in almost every fantasy team I own
Macca and McGlynn are back at full training and avaliable for selectuion this week.
Newman back to full training after an othro in Dec but Melican wont play NEAFL with a groin issue.
Luke Parker will train on Thursday and if he gets through it he will play.
http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/swanstv/swans-hq/hcf-injury-update
Tom Mitchell aaaaany chance this week?
he is a chance every week but seriously im not sure why he didnt play in the 2s on the weekend in the practice game v giants.
Quote from: SydneyRox on April 05, 2015, 02:02:34 AM
Havent watched the whole thing yet, happy we got away with one by the sounds of it.
Kind of hoped that we would come out breathing fire not have to deal with another team hungrier than us!
at least it was a repeat of rd1 2014!!!!! :o ;)
Quote from: elephants on April 08, 2015, 01:56:04 PM
Tom Mitchell aaaaany chance this week?
doesn't look like it LE - something must be up with his 1%ers or something?? I have read that people think he is suspect with his defensive game and that's why Horse doesn't play him but I can't say that I've seen anything in games I've seen him play ... maybe something behind closed doors in clubland/training??
al I can think of is 'team structures' or maybe balance?? sometimes you're talented and just miss out because your team has too many of that type eg Anthony Miles at GWS?? look at GWS mid-options, frickin stacked still!!
Quote from: Capper on April 08, 2015, 02:01:24 PM
he is a chance every week but seriously im not sure why he didnt play in the 2s on the weekend in the practice game v giants.
held back as an emerg??
Mitchell dropped from the Emerg list to make way for McVeigh, Cunningham an unlucky Emerg IMO.
Has to be structure based, but would have though Laidler would have gone before Cunners
Round 2:
Sydney Swans
In: J.McVeigh
Out: H.Cunningham
What the flowering flower
Did Mitchell sleep with Longmires wife/sister/daughter or something??
Quote from: Gigantor on April 10, 2015, 08:57:05 AM
Did Mitchell sleep with Longmires wife/sister/daughter or something??
Don't know man but its a fking disgrace he's not being selected.
Shoulda signed with Carlton
Great win, Damian Barrett can go suck a big one
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on April 11, 2015, 10:13:21 PM
Great win, Damian Barrett can go suck a big one
My thoughts exactly!
Boys in all honesty, how far back is Tom Mitchell?
Further than we thought evidently. I think it will take physical injuries to guys like Kennedy, Jack and Hanners to get him in because Longmire seems very big on team balance.
I seriously don't know why he re-signed unless someone straight up lied to him about what role he was getting in the future aha.
Finally got around to watching the Dons game.
Great final quarter
Good win yesterday as well
Titch will get a run soon, just keeping him under wraps at the moment
Quote from: elephants on April 12, 2015, 02:22:54 PM
I seriously don't know why he re-signed unless someone straight up lied to him about what role he was getting in the future aha.
because he would rather earn his spot in a team playing finals and in flags than get 40 possessions each week in a team that will be lucky to play finals during his career.
Quote from: SydneyRox on April 12, 2015, 08:17:39 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 12, 2015, 02:22:54 PM
I seriously don't know why he re-signed unless someone straight up lied to him about what role he was getting in the future aha.
because he would rather earn his spot in a team playing finals and in flags than get 40 possessions each week in a team that will be lucky to play finals during his career.
Considering he's about 5th in line atm, thats quite silly. More like he'd rather get paid an AFL salary to get 40 possessions a week in the NEAFL rather than play for anyone at AFL level.
he is only 20. He has plenty of time to go in his AFL career at the Swans
Pretty surprised that Trengove got completely off for sucker punching Heeney in the eye but whatever. McGlynn in for Towers and Mitchell in for Goodes would be my ultimate team for the rest of the season. Doubt it will happen because Horse loves Dean for some reason and isn't satisfied with Mitchell but at least we're close.
If we play like we did on Saturday only Hawthorn at their best can beat us, hopefully we get on a roll
BRING BACK TOM MITCHELL #justicefortitch
Quote from: elephants on April 14, 2015, 02:25:02 PM
BRING BACK TOM MITCHELL #justicefortitch
might be a perception that he's not 'running both ways' atm?? ???
Quote from: Capper on April 14, 2015, 01:38:31 PM
he is only 20. He has plenty of time to go in his AFL career at the Swans
:o
turns 22 in may
Quote from: SydneyRox on April 14, 2015, 04:24:09 PM
Quote from: Capper on April 14, 2015, 01:38:31 PM
he is only 20. He has plenty of time to go in his AFL career at the Swans
:o
turns 22 in may
correct as its no longer 2014, my bad
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-04-14/in-the-mix-round-three
SYDNEY SWANS
After a commanding win over Port Adelaide on the road, spots in the Swans side are tough to come by, but Ben McGlynn is at the front of the queue if one does pop up. The nippy forward was influential with 20 touches in the Swans' reserves victory over Ainslie in the NEAFL in his first game back from a high hamstring strain suffered in the pre-season. In a pleasing sign for the Swans, McGlynn got through the game without incident, with Tom Mitchell and Daniel Robinson also knocking on the door of senior selection. â€" Adam Curley
Quote from: Capper on April 15, 2015, 11:31:31 AM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-04-14/in-the-mix-round-three
SYDNEY SWANS
After a commanding win over Port Adelaide on the road, spots in the Swans side are tough to come by, but Ben McGlynn is at the front of the queue if one does pop up. The nippy forward was influential with 20 touches in the Swans' reserves victory over Ainslie in the NEAFL in his first game back from a high hamstring strain suffered in the pre-season. In a pleasing sign for the Swans, McGlynn got through the game without incident, with Tom Mitchell and Daniel Robinson also knocking on the door of senior selection. â€" Adam Curley
Didn't realise Curley was based in Sydney. He's an old WA boy
Sounds good, I honestly suspect Goodes will be the only omission come thursday
Sydney Swans Injury List
Updated: Tuesday, April 14
| Player | | Injury | | Estimated Return |
| Aliir Aliir | | Knee | | Test |
| Tom Derickx | | Knee | | Test |
| Alex Johnson* | | Knee | | Indefinite |
| Nic Newman | | Knee | | 2-4 weeks |
| Lloyd Perris | | Knee | | 4-6weeks |
| | | |
http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/video/2015-04-14/swanstv-hcf-injury-update-rd-2
McGlynn avaliable for this weekend
TBH it's hard to see us make any big changes while we're winning.
Laidler was good R1 but had no impact against Port. Can see someone coming in for him and McVeigh going permanently to half back. Towers is the other one who's likely to be dropped at some stage, although he played pretty decently on Saturday night, particularly in that second quarter where we built a bit of a lead.
Optimally we could bring in Mitchell and McGlynn for these two but Horse seems set on the current structure.
Or even keep Laidler and relegate Rhyce Shaw :-X
Or drop anyone and bring in Tom Mitchell :P
Quote from: elephants on April 15, 2015, 05:35:42 PM
Or drop anyone and bring in Tom Mitchell :P
I just laugh now every time you guys post to play Mitchell haha
Quote from: LF on April 15, 2015, 05:38:50 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 15, 2015, 05:35:42 PM
Or drop anyone and bring in Tom Mitchell :P
I just laugh now every time you guys post to play Mitchell haha
It flowers me right off haha
like i said, he will come in when we play the weagles and have his own ball on the day
Quote from: elephants on April 15, 2015, 05:39:23 PM
Quote from: LF on April 15, 2015, 05:38:50 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 15, 2015, 05:35:42 PM
Or drop anyone and bring in Tom Mitchell :P
I just laugh now every time you guys post to play Mitchell haha
It flowers me right off haha
BOG in the NEAFL as well
Quote from: My Chumps on April 15, 2015, 05:26:07 PM
Or even keep Laidler and relegate Rhyce Shaw :-X
Shaw was really good in round 1 against Essendon. Rampe did all his work last weekend so I think they'd work well in 90% of the games together
Quote from: Capper on April 15, 2015, 05:53:36 PM
like i said, he will come in when we play the weagles and have his own ball on the day become great mates with Shuey, Gaff and Masten and sign a 100 year deal at the Eagles.
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on April 15, 2015, 06:23:28 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on April 15, 2015, 05:26:07 PM
Or even keep Laidler and relegate Rhyce Shaw :-X
Shaw was really good in round 1 against Essendon. Rampe did all his work last weekend so I think they'd work well in 90% of the games together
Still used to ball pretty poorly round 1. Really can't trust him with the footy coming off half-back.
Apparently there's a rumor going round in some Melbourne newspaper that Hannebery is thinking of leaving at the end of this year to go back to Melbourne.
Pretty sure its come up before though so not much concern
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on April 18, 2015, 05:56:04 PM
Apparently there's a rumor going round in some Melbourne newspaper that Hannebery is thinking of leaving at the end of this year to go back to Melbourne.
Pretty sure its come up before though so not much concern
He has a contract till 2016 though and has apparently broken up with his girl. I will be his wingman tonight and hook him up to stay in Sydney
do you guys think Heeney is likely to miss a week after that hit
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on April 20, 2015, 02:56:05 PM
do you guys think Heeney is likely to miss a week after that hit
Longmire said post match he was fine
Should be ok but may get a rest
Patrick Keane â€@AFL_PKeane 14s14 seconds ago
Sydney Swans' Isaac Heeney is the rd3 NAB AFL #RisingStar after kicking four goals in Saturday's 21-point win over the GWS Giants at the SCG
Was pretty surprised he didn't get the nod last week, well deserved
nominated for 3qtr of a game, kids a star!
Who were the first 2 kids to get a nomination??
Well done Heeney, hopefully he is right to play this week
Mcintosh and Honeychurch from the Tigers and Bulldogs
Was only a matter of time really. The best kid in the draft
Looking forward towards the Fremantle game in Perth, should be a good match.
Only changes I can see is Smith and McGlynn in for Towers and Reid/Laidler, the Dockers aren't a side Goodes should be playing against.
Don't know why McGlynn was an emergency last week, definitely need him this weekend considering how badly he tore Fremantle apart last year
How about Mitchell in for Cunningham too pls :p
Quote from: elephants on April 21, 2015, 11:42:05 AM
How about Mitchell in for Cunningham too pls :p
21 disposals, 10 marks and 4 tackles at 81% with low TOG tells me he'll probably stay ;)
Haha flower it idc who comes out someone needs to. Drop JPK for all I care (don't actually my SC team will cry).
Drop Tippett and play TMitch out of full forward. He'll kick you 10 a week
Doubt it. Titch 2nd best for Swans after a thumping
Quote from: Ricochet on April 21, 2015, 01:53:29 PM
Drop Tippett and play TMitch out of full forward. He'll kick you 10 a week
ha, ha! some peeps with him in dynasty leagues are clutching at straws it seems! :o :D
ok, looking forward to a cracker this w/end against Freo!!!
can't afford tickets at the moment (good things about parenthood, not so good things ;)) but luckily will be live and free-to-air over here ...
I expect Swans to win with Buddy and Tippett (despite his poor form) up front ... Freo took the gas off the pedal after qtr time so they will be fresh but maybe the lack of heat in the game might allow the bloods to get the jump early?? :-X ??? ;)
also when Pav went to the bench and for a run in the middle occasionally the Freo fwd-line looked ... all at sea!
Boom tish! ;)
EMG Jack Hiscox, Sam Naismith, Dean Towers
IN
Nick Smith
OUT
Dean Towers (Omitted)
Unbe-flowering-lievable.
So the GC 1s are in Sydney whilst the 2s are in GC playing the Sydney 2s
I'm going to say I was very happy with our performance to be honest overall. Ended up winning in every stat except hitouts and free kicks (which played a big part tbh lol). I honestly think we're easily as good as Hawthorn or Freo right now.
Standout game from Reid, absolutely superb. Best game he's had by miles. Rohan was great too when he came on.
Heeney and Jetta had poor games, but the kid gets some slack cut for him. Jetta needs to work on pressure situations though.
Not sure what Jetta is being asked to do, but he doesnt work hard enough IMO and needs to be careful guys like lloyd and Rohan dont run past him.
Fk yeh Sydney lose, changes are needed, changes that involve Tom Mitchell.
Jetta isnt a defensive player though, hence why i dont want him running on the HBF
Dont mind Rohan running there but Jetta is better on the Wing.
Goodes will come back this week
Nah changes aren't needed, Parker Jack and Kennedy just needed to work harder in the first half and we could've beaten Freo easily on the surge back had we only gone like 30 behind.
Guys like Cunningham and Smith and did great at their negating run with style roles. Walters, Neale and Barlow all had close to 0 impact thanks to them.
Not convinced Goodes does comeback unless Heeney is still hurt, and even then I'd rather Mitchell replace him than Goodes.
Titch or Towers comes in for Heeney if he does miss. Goodes to come in for Laidler im thinking
Its done, Mitchell in for Heeney :)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-04-27/doc-larkins-injury-update-round-four
Heeney is reportedly 100% so I have doubts he'll miss
ughhh haha
Titch in for Jetta
Goodes for Laidler
Cunningham the sub
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on April 25, 2015, 11:53:20 PM
I'm going to say I was very happy with our performance to be honest overall. Ended up winning in every stat except hitouts and free kicks (which played a big part tbh lol). I honestly think we're easily as good as Hawthorn or Freo right now.
Standout game from Reid, absolutely superb. Best game he's had by miles. Rohan was great too when he came on.
Heeney and Jetta had poor games, but the kid gets some slack cut for him. Jetta needs to work on pressure situations though.
yeh, can't be happy with the start - got smashed out of the middle and then turned it around in the 3rd ... after last year's GF you would think they would have 'drawn a line in the sand' ... :-X :P ;)
hopefully this game was the making of Reid - saw a news article proposing he could emulate Goodsey and be a full utility? 8)
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on April 27, 2015, 06:25:53 PM
Nah changes aren't needed, Parker Jack and Kennedy just needed to work harder in the first half and we could've beaten Freo easily on the surge back had we only gone like 30 behind.
Guys like Cunningham and Smith and did great at their negating run with style roles. Walters, Neale and Barlow all had close to 0 impact thanks to them.
Not convinced Goodes does comeback unless Heeney is still hurt, and even then I'd rather Mitchell replace him than Goodes.
think they leave Goodes out til 2nd half of the year? :o
Hear me out ... you want your experienced heads towards the pointy end so why push him in now when he's not in form ... as a veteran i'd back him to be right and clicking for finals ... :-X ;)
#bringbackTMitch
Hey guys haven't seen the last couple of Sydney games, anything up with Parker? Couple of weeks of low fantasy scores and low possessions (especially kicks).
Any particular reason for this such as a slight change of role or just simply had a couple of lean games?
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on April 27, 2015, 11:00:24 PM
Titch in for Jetta
Goodes for Laidler
Cunningham the sub
This shows you dont know the positions they play in the team.
Titch and Jetta play 2 different positions. One inside, one outside.
Goodes for Laidler i agree with but it will mean that Sam play back 100% of the time
Quote from: Rusty00 on April 28, 2015, 11:35:13 AM
Hey guys haven't seen the last couple of Sydney games, anything up with Parker? Couple of weeks of low fantasy scores and low possessions (especially kicks).
Any particular reason for this such as a slight change of role or just simply had a couple of lean games?
watched all of Fre v Syd and I just didn't notice him til half-way through the 3rd qtr ... saw/heard some commentary saying he's playing same role as last year but just not getting much of the pill last couple of games ...
he's on my watchlist as a fallen premium atm ...
Quote from: Capper on April 28, 2015, 12:27:53 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on April 27, 2015, 11:00:24 PM
Titch in for Jetta
Goodes for Laidler
Cunningham the sub
This shows you dont know the positions they play in the team.
Titch and Jetta play 2 different positions. One inside, one outside.
Goodes for Laidler i agree with but it will mean that Sam play back 100% of the time
i'm well aware actually
Rohan was the sub on the weekend so he replaces Jetta on the field which isnt hard since Jetta has been doing nothing
Quote from: j959 on April 28, 2015, 04:46:54 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on April 28, 2015, 11:35:13 AM
Hey guys haven't seen the last couple of Sydney games, anything up with Parker? Couple of weeks of low fantasy scores and low possessions (especially kicks).
Any particular reason for this such as a slight change of role or just simply had a couple of lean games?
watched all of Fre v Syd and I just didn't notice him til half-way through the 3rd qtr ... saw/heard some commentary saying he's playing same role as last year but just not getting much of the pill last couple of games ...
he's on my watchlist as a fallen premium atm ...
Yeah mine too. Hopefully picks it up again to give us some confidence in picking him.
Another lazy 40 disposals for titch in the 2s.
Now where is Le and Rico??
flowering hell, get the boy in there!
and still didn't get best on ::)
Quote from: Ricochet on April 29, 2015, 06:56:48 PM
and still didn't get best on ::)
wow over 7 minutes for a reply. Thought it would be longer :P
The Swans no longer do a wrap on the NEAFL games so cant tell you a lot about the game
Quote from: elephants on April 29, 2015, 06:51:09 PM
flowering hell, get the boy in there!
its like you guys are stalking this thread or something :P ::)
Quote from: Capper on April 29, 2015, 07:05:59 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 29, 2015, 06:51:09 PM
flowering hell, get the boy in there!
its like you guys are stalking this thread or something :P ::)
Nah just stalk TMitch. Like sitting outside his window stalking
our lord savior has arrived
Titch is back, quick lock the thread!!!
he'll get best on this week
Will be interesting to see who gets the vest
Wont be Goodes as he would be still playing NEAFL
Get Towers into the vest green or red asap
TOMMY MITCHELL YOU GUN. Now don't vest him Horse you fkn clown.
Interesting that McGlynn misses. maybe needs another game in the 2s
Quote from: elephants on April 30, 2015, 07:31:03 PM
TOMMY MITCHELL YOU GUN. Now don't vest him Horse you fkn clown.
almost guaranteed
Just saw footage of the Swans training and Heeney looked ok.
I think he was rested instead of injury.
Yeah I think it's a resting too, considering he's been red vested due to injuries twice in a row now they probably want him to have a week off
Worst game I've seen for several years. Unlike last week it had nothing to do with the umpiring this time.
Some of those performances were barely NEAFL level. Shaw, Grundy, Towers, Bird, Lloyd and Jetta put in games that would disappoint 2015 Carlton and St.Kilda fans. Handpassing backwards and kicking sideways short in the wet are under 10's errors.
Horrific coaching by Longmire as well. Complete incompetency. In what world is Goodes and Towers going to do more than McGlynn and Cunningham in that weather? Same terrible decisions that Horse made in the North Melbourne game early last year.
For god's sake keep Mitchell in the flowering team. Tom, Pyke, Hanners and Franklin deserve to be ashamed of their team after that.
came home from working to watch the game, but after i saw tge score just watched the highlights. half of the dogs goals came from stupid errors.
glad i didnt watch it live i think
so you guys think Titch will stay in at least for another week?
I sure hope so
We are without a doubt the worst team in the league for wet weather football. Abysmal.
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on May 02, 2015, 05:22:31 PM
Same terrible decisions that Horse made in the North Melbourne game early last year.
Absolutely reminded me of that game. Pretty disgraceful.
Glad i missed the game then.
We haven't been good in wet weather for 2 years, we struggled last year in the wet as well
Tommy Mitchell resident superstar
Quote from: elephants on May 04, 2015, 04:27:22 PM
Tommy Mitchell resident superstar
the problem was he spent half his time disposing it to the bulldogs instead of the swans
Quote from: Capper on May 04, 2015, 04:46:17 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 04, 2015, 04:27:22 PM
Tommy Mitchell resident superstar
the problem was he spent half his time disposing it to the bulldogs instead of the swans
When you get the pill 30 times in the wet that's not that surprising. And laying 9 tackles shows that his defensive game is clearly up to scratch.
I don't know why you find so much joy in talking him down lol.
Quote from: elephants on May 04, 2015, 04:50:31 PM
Quote from: Capper on May 04, 2015, 04:46:17 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 04, 2015, 04:27:22 PM
Tommy Mitchell resident superstar
the problem was he spent half his time disposing it to the bulldogs instead of the swans
When you get the pill 30 times in the wet that's not that surprising. And laying 9 tackles shows that his defensive game is clearly up to scratch.
I don't know why you find so much joy in talking him down lol.
there is no joy talking him down. The bulldogs are the number 1 team i hate and we lost badly to them through wasting possessions. He came in after killing in the NEAFL and will stay in the team.
The Swans are no longer a wet weather team so dont pick them in the wet
Yeah Mitchell did a pretty good job, definitely someone who could hold his head unlike close to half the team. Considering guys like Bont had 30% DE Tommy was great
i reckon you would of won if you played McGlynn over Goodes even though Goodes kicked 2 goals McGlynn would of won more ball it's a strange selection choice for wet weather
Also could've won if we fielded Cunningham instead of Towers who is tall (with no height presence either)
Could've won if you played 22 Tom Mitchells
Quote from: elephants on May 04, 2015, 05:21:22 PM
Could've won if you played 22 Tom Mitchells
hahahaha
Quote from: The Mighty Sainters on May 04, 2015, 05:12:33 PM
i reckon you would of won if you played McGlynn over Goodes even though Goodes kicked 2 goals McGlynn would of won more ball it's a strange selection choice for wet weather
IF Goodes is ready to go you always play him. Im lost why McGlynn didnt play, although he didnt shine in the 2s either
Quote from: Ricochet on May 04, 2015, 05:22:30 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 04, 2015, 05:21:22 PM
Could've won if you played 22 Tom Mitchells
hahahaha
probably, and we would have been 5-0 if we had done it from the start of the season as well
Something else I picked up on, Titch only played 73% game time. Phwoar, imagine the damage he could've done if given 85%!
Quote from: elephants on May 07, 2015, 02:55:58 PM
Something else I picked up on, Titch only played 73% game time. Phwoar, imagine the damage he could've done if given 85%!
Dogs win by more ?? :P
So Titch got most of his ball in the mid which means he didnt replace the role that Heeney had. Did someone else move forward when Titch came in??
Titch may keep his spot but now players like Towers, Cunners keeping McGlynn and Heeney out
I think there may be a backline change this week. I am never confident when Grundy or Shaw receives the ball in open play. They both dont look confident with the ball
Quote from: Capper on May 07, 2015, 03:02:07 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 07, 2015, 02:55:58 PM
Something else I picked up on, Titch only played 73% game time. Phwoar, imagine the damage he could've done if given 85%!
Dogs win by more ?? :P
Laughable to say the least ;)
When Shaw gets the ball while its dry he looks ok, just goes to shower in the wet. Grundy has always been awful near the ball, he's incredibly slow and makes bad decisions deep in 50 under pressure unlike Richards, Smith and Rampe who are adept at it.
Also if Towers keeps his spot in front of McGlynn or Heeney or anybody I'm going to be pissed. Pretty sure Reid is out for a couple matches as well.
In: Reid, McGlynn, Heeney
Out: Cunningham, Bird, Towers
Well whoever works for afl.com was wrong on Reid but sweet he's in. Great that Mitchell gets a 2nd shot, McGlynn is back and Towers is gone.
Bird and Cunningham are unlucky, but they haven't been poor so hopefully it motivates them
Heeney a big green vest chance it seems
Quote from: The Mighty Sainters on May 07, 2015, 07:33:41 PM
Heeney a big green vest chance it seems
Really hope not but it looks like it
Was lucky tonight and got to watch my first Live Swans game for the year.
Great first half and good beginning to the 3rd quarter but then we dropped off. Mind you the umps helped.
How Dan Han can get tackled, HB out and then get a free kick against for a high tackle i will never know.
Heeney 4-6 with a PCL will more likely turn in to a 6+ to get him right.
Still not happy with Grundy or Shaw in the backline, both had bad games with only minimal highlights.
On a good note Rooster played well and it as even better to see GWS beat the Hawks the game before.
Played pretty well for 3 quarters but Melbourne didn't really do much so it became much easier. The skills difference compared to wet weather is so so much better.
Was glad Tippett got the 4 early and Franklin didn't get any but we still managed to pull a strong margin, Buddy's 20 odd disposals were good to see too, really tried to put pressure on Mcdonald.
Heeney injury sucks, hopefully Lloyd and Hannebery pull up ok too. Its gotta be Cunningham or Bird who comes back for Heeney, I will tear my hair out if Towers get another free chance when he's done so little with sufficient ones given
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on May 10, 2015, 11:48:36 AM
Played pretty well for 3 quarters but Melbourne didn't really do much so it became much easier. The skills difference compared to wet weather is so so much better.
Was glad Tippett got the 4 early and Franklin didn't get any but we still managed to pull a strong margin, Buddy's 20 odd disposals were good to see too, really tried to put pressure on Mcdonald.
Heeney injury sucks, hopefully Lloyd and Hannebery pull up ok too. Its gotta be Cunningham or Bird who comes back for Heeney, I will tear my hair out if Towers get another free chance when he's done so little with sufficient ones given
Bird didnt play the 2s and Towers wasnt in the best.
Would love to know what role Marsh is playing in the 2s as he is in the best again!!
Assume that bird was rested then and he'll likely come back in
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on May 11, 2015, 01:26:53 PM
Assume that bird was rested then and he'll likely come back in
or
Quote from: Ricochet on January 23, 2015, 05:21:17 PM
Thoughts on CBird being pushed out by these gun kids coming through lads? Or is his role too important
Bird was carrying an injury the other week so maybe rested
From memory Bird missed a couple of games early last year as well before he played all the rest out in the 22, I'd be surprised if we gets dropped for a prolonged period
Could also be a Vest candidate as well
First day of training this week and Buddy found a box of donuts in his locker
Quote from: Capper on May 14, 2015, 02:23:08 PM
First day of training this week and Buddy found a box of donuts in his locker
Tommy Mac you legend
flower off Longmire jesus christ
Towers better kick like 10 goals or something because otherwise he can piss off
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on May 14, 2015, 06:49:37 PM
flower off Longmire jesus christ
Towers better kick like 10 goals or something because otherwise he can piss off
Whats the plan for Towers? He doesn't seem tall enough for a 3rd forward. Big bodied flanker/wing??
Quote from: Gigantor on May 14, 2015, 07:21:37 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on May 14, 2015, 06:49:37 PM
flower off Longmire jesus christ
Towers better kick like 10 goals or something because otherwise he can piss off
Whats the plan for Towers? He doesn't seem tall enough for a 3rd forward. Big bodied flanker/wing??
nah he doesn't use his height or jumping ability at all in games (even though he broke some record in the draft or something).
He's 25 years old and he plays like he's 18. Messy skills and absolutely 0 accountability in the forward line, the amount of missed tackles/defensive is far greater than anyone else on our team bar maybe Adam Goodes who's 35 and playing his last year.
He doesn't play to his strengths at all which are supposed to be pace, jump and height somewhat similar to Blicavs except he does nothing the Blicavs does.
Rampe has signed on for 4 years which is good 8)
Still hoping for a day where Alex Johnson can come back and they'd make a great duo :'(
Back to back tons for Benny McGlynn, very very tempted to grab him in my draft league if he can hold his spot and continue producing, likely?
Reckon McGlynn can keep an 80-95 average, his tackling has been elite so far which gets him so many points. Don't be surprised if he misses 2-4 games due to calf/ankle injuries though.
As for the Geelong game, 2nd half was good but the 1st was just littered with basic skill errors, in particular coming out of the back 50 and into the forward 50.
The back 6 has become a prominent problem imo. Too often we try to act like old geelong/hawthorn and do this showerty short kicks and handpasses out of defence where we just create self inflicted turnovers too often.
We don't have Kennelly/Shaw that can break lines anymore, the runners are all in the centre Horse seems to have scrapped the idea of Rohan being a permanent backman. No more Malceski to give proper direction with long kicking to contests with Tippett and McGlynn which is when we thrive at getting forward. I'm really keen for guys like Jones, Xavier and etc. to start breaking in because we really need a change of dynamic in the backline.
I'm glad we still have the temperament to pull away from Geelong late which tells me we're still a top 4 team but I'll be begrudgingly tipping Hawthorn this weekend which is something I didn't do last year. We just aren't playing top 2 football yet.
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on May 16, 2015, 07:09:11 PM
Rampe has signed on for 4 years which is good 8)
Still hoping for a day where Alex Johnson can come back and they'd make a great duo :'(
Im not sure if he has had his next reco yet or not
Good to see the defence stepped up for once against a strong team. Hawks had double the clearances and 20 more I50s so really impressive to hold up well.
Loved Reid's, Goodes' games and Jetta's 2nd half.
Buddy, Pyke and Lloyd had shockers. Jake struggled with the pressure and Franklin will be fine but not sure about Pyke. Got absolutely blitzed by Ceglar who isn't even a great ruckman. Giving away a ton of frees too.
Bloody lucky to come away with that one, but I'm still pretty flowering pumped about winning. Tonight just reminded me how much I absolutely hate Hawthorn.
TMitch did a better job on SMitchell around the stoppages that last quarter after McGlynn was dominated in the 3rd Q. Still think things need to change if we're to beat them again. They were convincingly the better team through quarters 2+3.
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on May 23, 2015, 10:24:01 PM
Loved Reid's, Goodes' games
Absolutely picked out the two I was going to highlight.
Their midfield seems to work a lot better against ours than it does against many other top 8 teams which is a little annoying
Yeah looking back Reid's games against Freo and the Hawks were All Australian standard. They need to do everything they can to keep him in that position and mindset.
Next 2 weeks are against the 2 teams with the worst form in Carlton and GC, Rohan struggles with a 4 quarter effort so for now I think he'd be the best green vest player.
Only player I could see coming in is Bird, unless Horse has decided that his standard isn't high enough anymore
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-05-26/goodes-doesnt-understand-why-he-is-being-booed-in-melbourne
Because he's a self righteous soft cock
Quote from: silloc on May 26, 2015, 12:42:50 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-05-26/goodes-doesnt-understand-why-he-is-being-booed-in-melbourne
Because he's a self righteous soft cock
What a piss poor comment silloc
Standing up against racism and having pride in your culture is not self-righteous, nor does it deserve to be booed.
People don't boo Lindsay Thomas that loudly, they don't boo Joel Selwood or Steve Johnson that loudly. People like that are the lowest common denominator and a absolute disgrace to AFL
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on May 26, 2015, 12:47:06 PM
Quote from: silloc on May 26, 2015, 12:42:50 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-05-26/goodes-doesnt-understand-why-he-is-being-booed-in-melbourne
Because he's a self righteous soft cock
What a piss poor comment silloc
Standing up against racism and having pride in your culture is not self-righteous, nor does it deserve to be booed.
People don't boo Lindsay Thomas that loudly, they don't boo Joel Selwood or Steve Johnson that loudly. People like that are the lowest common denominator and a absolute disgrace to AFL
Well said
Quote from: My Chumps on May 26, 2015, 08:33:15 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on May 26, 2015, 12:47:06 PM
Quote from: silloc on May 26, 2015, 12:42:50 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-05-26/goodes-doesnt-understand-why-he-is-being-booed-in-melbourne
Because he's a self righteous soft cock
What a piss poor comment silloc
Standing up against racism and having pride in your culture is not self-righteous, nor does it deserve to be booed.
People don't boo Lindsay Thomas that loudly, they don't boo Joel Selwood or Steve Johnson that loudly. People like that are the lowest common denominator and a absolute disgrace to AFL
Well said
Well a lot of the media wants it shut down so hopefully its a start
Quote from: silloc on May 26, 2015, 12:42:50 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-05-26/goodes-doesnt-understand-why-he-is-being-booed-in-melbourne
Because he's a self righteous soft cock
Is it always best to stay silent and make people think that you are a moron than to speak and confirm that you are
Back on to the Sydney Home and Away Discussion
does Bird come in ?
Lloyd looked lost at bit out there on the weekend and against the cats
Grundy stood up at the back but is no good when the ball is on the ground. In saying that though that isnt his job
Robinson any good guys? we really need a couple rookies to do well this weekend lease a few were named
Yeah I rate him pretty highly. He was in the best 5 for pretty much the majority of NEAFL games last year.
Don't think he's much chance of avoiding the vest though and I reckon one of Lloyd or Bird will take his spot soon
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on May 28, 2015, 11:26:07 PM
Yeah I rate him pretty highly. He was in the best 5 for pretty much the majority of NEAFL games last year.
Don't think he's much chance of avoiding the vest though and I reckon one of Lloyd or Bird will take his spot soon
shhh lets keep it down
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on May 28, 2015, 09:47:02 PM
Robinson any good guys? we really need a couple rookies to do well this weekend lease a few were named
he was signed as a 14 yo so obviously the kid had tallent
Well it was a game, not a whole lot of analysis really except we know Goodes can dance now. Center bounce work was very average as well considering we weren't against quality.
Robinson did ok, floated in and out a bit and looked good when he was in. Hopefully McVeigh and Hannebery are all good for the trip to Gold Coast
You cant really take anything from a game that Shaw scores 106 points from.
Will be interesting to see if Robbo keeps his place with Macca's calf strain
Another Melbourne journo throwing in his 2 cents about Tippo
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/afl-2015-kurt-tippett-under-fire-for-not-living-up-to-sydney-swans-pay-packet/story-e6frf3e3-1227378437685
I would say enjoy but blaaaa!!!
Tippett is fine. In 2013 he was leading goals per game for the majority of the year at over 3 and finished 3rd and he was in the top 10 for contested marks. Last year he was in the top 10 for goals per game too.
In fact from the 2012 GF until Hawthorn at the MCG the only games we lost were games where Tippett was either inured or not playing. He obviously was worth the pay packet.
Skill isn't an issue for him. He's still an elite tall forward, the difference is he gets significantly less one on ones inside 50 as it almost always gos towards Franklin for 80% of the match. Tippett's role now is to create advantageous contests on the wing and outside forward 50 while also doubling into the 50 as a target and pinch hitting in the ruck. When he gets given space and contests inside 50, he generally excels. He's shown than vs. all the good teams.
Wayne Carey shows once again why he sees everything in black and white, one of the worst analysts in AFL at the moment to be honest.
It seems that they didnt like what i posted about the article.
oh well
When Tippett becomes a waste of money is when he's out injured, but this year he's set for 40+ goals which is fine
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on June 02, 2015, 12:50:44 AM
Wayne Carey shows once again why he sees everything in black and white, one of the worst analysts in AFL at the moment to be honest.
What would you expect from a bloke with not much between the ears
Quote from: My Chumps on June 02, 2015, 09:16:25 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on June 02, 2015, 12:50:44 AM
Wayne Carey shows once again why he sees everything in black and white, one of the worst analysts in AFL at the moment to be honest.
What would you expect from a bloke with not much between the ears
His head looks like plastic nowadays as well
Loving Tommy Mitchell's work this year, 7th in the AFL for disposals per game and 18th for effective disposals 8)
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on June 08, 2015, 12:30:15 AM
Loving Tommy Mitchell's work this year, 7th in the AFL for disposals per game and 18th for effective disposals 8)
#gun 8)
Also enjoying Lloyd's improvement work. If he adds some more tackling/marking to his game on top off his increased ability to find the ball he could be reaching A grade territory.
Retrospectively, The 10 rounds have basically revealed that another permanent ruck and tall defender is what all we need to remain in the premiership hunt for the next 3 years. Reid is a good start but another is needed, I'm thinking that Longmire is confident that either X.Richards or Allir will come through to be permanent 22 players in 2017.
Ruck is a bit trickier though, I reckon Richards and Grundy can hold out longer than Pyke can. Derickx isn't to standard and Naismith looked well off the pace.
Midfield and forward line are fine, even if Hannerbery goes via free agency (which I think Geelong should throw their $$$ at him instead of Dangerfield)
Agreed MM. Rance probably outside our price range.
Maybe Matthew Luenberger? Should be cheap coming off what has been an awful season.
Yeah I reckon if Rance leaves the Tigers it'll be for much more than we can afford.
Leuenberger is an interesting one, he's being massively outclassed by Martin at the moment so maybe he'll just end up being cheaply offloaded. Maybe we could get Giles if Hird for some bizarre reason chooses Bellchambers over him.
Guess it kinda depends on how those other clubs go for the rest of the season
The only way Rance gets to the Swans is if Reid leaves and Rance wants to move away from Victoria
Don't see it happening myself
Nah no point in getting rid of one good younger key position player for a older one (albeit better). Not sure who would want to leave at the end of the year though, no one with any significant value. Bird maybe but he's a free agent
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on June 09, 2015, 12:53:02 AM
Nah no point in getting rid of one good younger key position player for a older one (albeit better). Not sure who would want to leave at the end of the year though, no one with any significant value. Bird maybe but he's a free agent
Who would chase Bird?? Maybe GC or Lions??
They could but we wouldn't get anything out of it, at best like a 2nd or 3rd round compensation pick
Quote from: Capper on June 10, 2015, 06:34:17 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on June 09, 2015, 12:53:02 AM
Nah no point in getting rid of one good younger key position player for a older one (albeit better). Not sure who would want to leave at the end of the year though, no one with any significant value. Bird maybe but he's a free agent
Who would chase Bird?? Maybe GC or Lions??
I'd love him at the dees. As seen in the past few weeks our depth is still terrible and we really need guys who can come in and actually play a role, while Brayshaw/Tyson/Petracca/Salem/Viney etc are still a bit young to be relied on
He is a bit one-paced though isn't he? That could be a bit of a drawback
I don't think his pace is any different from the majority of our mids that aren't Jetta etc.
You have Vince to play a run with role though, why get another?
Although Roos may want him
Quote from: Big Mac on June 10, 2015, 06:44:00 PM
He is a bit one-paced though isn't he? That could be a bit of a drawback
Literally the reason he isn't in the team atm. Has no problem getting the ball or playing his role, but Longmire's trying to balance the pace aspect, that's why he hasn't got a game since Titch has come in, and why Lloyd, Cunners, Jetta, Heeney (when back) and Gaz are all above him in the pecking order.
GAZ?? Do you mean Rooster??
No changes, good to see. Hopefully Robbo can get a full game soon
Pretty crappy game, should've won by like 50 but we gave up after half time again (and the umpires gifted them a couple) but whatever.
Hopefully Grundy and Hannerbery are ok, wonder if Heeney or McGlynn will come back in after the bye though?
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on June 13, 2015, 10:35:11 PM
Pretty crappy game, should've won by like 50 but we gave up after half time again (and the umpires gifted them a couple) but whatever.
Hopefully Grundy and Hannerbery are ok, wonder if Heeney or McGlynn will come back in after the bye though?
do either Heeney or McGlynn get a game in the 2s before they come back in the 1s
2s have the bye next week as well
I dunno, I reckon Robinson and Lloyd are on notice though and I'd be surprised if both were in the 22 in a fortnight (Lloyd was poor, Robinson just didn't get any game time).
Cunningham was really good, he's secure for a couple at least. Backs are a lot better now, Rampe and Laidler have improved a lot. Clearances seemed to be a huge issue though, we demolished North in everything else but we got smashed in them, it was an issue against Carlton too. Pretty glaring ruck problem, although I didn't think Goldstein was that influential.
Just on Rampe, his numbers over the past couple of weeks have been absolutely unreal. Is there a role change? Is he getting a bit more freedom? Or is he simply just in good form/getting more lucky with being in the right spots to win the pill?
From what I can see FF had him as being loose in defence against North and 'on the resting mid' the week before against GC. Scores of 126 and 110 in the past two are pretty immense.
This likely to continue at all?
Definitely due to him given space and being the free man, racked up 12 and 14 marks in both those games which gave him a ton of free possessions.
It might continue, but plenty of teams will want 1 on 1 matchups which might restrict his ball
Heeney listed as 1 week. Will he come straight back in? Surely he has a game in the 2s next week before being back for Port at home
Stolen from BIGFOOTY
Sydney Players out of contract at the end of 2015
Heath Grundy (UFA), Adam Goodes (UFA), Ted Richards (UFA), Rhyce Shaw, Aliir Aliir, Jordan Foote, George Hewett, Brandon Jack, Kieran Jack, Lewis Jetta, Alex Johnson, Harrison Marsh, Lewis Melican, Sean McLaren, Sam Naismith, Toby Nankervis, Nic Newman, Lloyd Perris, Daniel Robinson
Quote from: Capper on June 16, 2015, 02:13:19 PM
Heeney listed as 1 week. Will he come straight back in? Surely he has a game in the 2s next week before being back for Port at home
do you think McGlynn and Heeney in for Robinson and Lloyd
no, Heeney will get a game in the 2s and McGlynn isnt over his injury yet
Goodes not ready to retire just yet. May o on to next season
http://www.foxsports.com.au/video?v=goodes-not-ready-to-retire_1227413102976&vc=208
i meant in the best 22 not just this week
Is Parker gonna get up this week lads? (heard he had a heavy knock)
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 25, 2015, 09:40:11 AM
Is Parker gonna get up this week lads? (heard he had a heavy knock)
no mention of it here, so he must be ok
http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/video/2015-06-23/swanstv-hcf-injury-update-r13-2015
Nick Davis has done a calf and wont be the runner against the Tiges
Jared Crouch will be the runner although he is also nursing a calf complaint
Heath Grundy signed a 3 year extension
Quote from: Capper on June 25, 2015, 02:42:22 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 25, 2015, 09:40:11 AM
Is Parker gonna get up this week lads? (heard he had a heavy knock)
no mention of it here, so he must be ok
http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/video/2015-06-23/swanstv-hcf-injury-update-r13-2015
cheers mate 8)
Pyke out? Am I missing something?
Injured his knee, probably just a rest
Quote from: Big Mac on June 25, 2015, 06:49:38 PM
Pyke out? Am I missing something?
Thought he might have got a rest the other week so he got a 2 week bye
interesting emergencies
EMG Abe Davis, Toby Nankervis, Dean Towers
Was hoping to keep Davis on the downlow for next year
pyke out not a big issue, getting smashed most weeks in hitouts and clearances anyway.
5 more years
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-06-26/swans-set-to-lock-away-hannebery-on-longterm-deal
Quote from: Capper on June 26, 2015, 12:36:27 PM
5 more years
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-06-26/swans-set-to-lock-away-hannebery-on-longterm-deal
best news!
I dont want to point fingers tonight and play the blame game but if Rhyce Shaw gets another contract im taking him out
Also Jetta came out after half time and didnt even jog when they were warming up in the sprints. I expect he gets the vest or a game in the 2s next week
Titchell subbed, Sydney lose. No coincidence.
Also, free up Rampe dammit!
Titch a chance to get dropped?
Quote from: Big Mac on June 27, 2015, 01:20:37 AM
Titch a chance to get dropped?
not after zak jones blunder and all the suspensions
Nathan Gordon cleared contact Kieren Jack â€" Panel said glancing contact was made and force used was not sufficient for a report.
Well it looks like you can elbow people to the face again and get away with it
I have deleted the photos and references to Goodes after the viewing in real time showed he was only trying to get up and nothing sinister. Does not warranting continuing in the thread
Longmire has confirmed that the Swans are happy to take the 1 wk for both Tippett and Buddy, and who wouldnt
Quote from: Capper on June 29, 2015, 04:04:03 PM
Nathan Gordon cleared contact Kieren Jack â€" Panel said glancing contact was made and force used was not sufficient for a report.
Well it looks like you can elbow people to the face again and get away with it
Unless you are Stefan Martin ;) ;)
Quote from: Ringo on June 29, 2015, 08:02:57 PM
Quote from: Capper on June 29, 2015, 04:04:03 PM
Nathan Gordon cleared contact Kieren Jack â€" Panel said glancing contact was made and force used was not sufficient for a report.
Well it looks like you can elbow people to the face again and get away with it
Unless you are Stefan Martin ;) ;)
Im still looking for the footage, havent seen the incident. Has he accepted the charges?
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-06-30/franklin-tippett-face-onegame-bans-while-big-lion-martin-offered-two-weeks
Have a look here mate has a view of all incidents. Martin has accepted the 2 weeks. Suspect there are not many angles of this one to aid an appeal. Looks bad with the 2 steps though, Also interesting comments on the nathan Gordon one BS I say.
With Martin apparently the main contributing factor to the sanction was the Crows medical report. Crows have just gone down my pecking order. Fair enough he went off for treatment but came back as did Edwards.
Nippa very lucky that KJack moved his head.
If we can see better footage of the Martin one he might of got more Ringo, looking at that footage. It appears he went for him and got him.
How did Lynch get off when Buckley was in the hands of trainers? Interestingly that Blues fans are more worried about Goodes than Lynch
Quote from: Ringo on June 30, 2015, 12:20:22 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-06-30/franklin-tippett-face-onegame-bans-while-big-lion-martin-offered-two-weeks
Have a look here mate has a view of all incidents. Martin has accepted the 2 weeks. Suspect there are not many angles of this one to aid an appeal. Looks bad with the 2 steps though, Also interesting comments on the nathan Gordon one BS I say.
With Martin apparently the main contributing factor to the sanction was the Crows medical report. Crows have just gone down my pecking order. Fair enough he went off for treatment but came back as did Edwards.
Do you think the Crows medicos purposely made it seem worse for Martin?
Quote from: Capper on June 30, 2015, 12:32:29 PM
Nippa very lucky that KJack moved his head.
If we can see better footage of the Martin one he might of got more Ringo, looking at that footage. It appears he went for him and got him.
How did Lynch get off when Buckley was in the hands of trainers? Interestingly that Blues fans are more worried about Goodes than Lynch
And was up the other end of the ground from my seat hence why did not say much. It appears he reacted to the attention McStay (looks like him could nit get a lose look at number)was getting and decided he would throw his bigger frame in and it just went wrong. Have a look at this angle which is from behind the goal posts. Still not good but shows reaction to help a team mate.
http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php?action=post;quote=1640742;topic=101921.225;num_replies=226;sesc=b38e0bb1ea18e70ad29e3cc18509281b
Deliberate action against Brown who is smaller than MArtin. Had that same swinging arm hit McStay it would have got him in the chest and nothing would have happened.
Quote from: Rusty00 on June 30, 2015, 01:52:25 PM
Quote from: Ringo on June 30, 2015, 12:20:22 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-06-30/franklin-tippett-face-onegame-bans-while-big-lion-martin-offered-two-weeks
Have a look here mate has a view of all incidents. Martin has accepted the 2 weeks. Suspect there are not many angles of this one to aid an appeal. Looks bad with the 2 steps though, Also interesting comments on the nathan Gordon one BS I say.
With Martin apparently the main contributing factor to the sanction was the Crows medical report. Crows have just gone down my pecking order. Fair enough he went off for treatment but came back as did Edwards.
Do you think the Crows medicos purposely made it seem worse for Martin?
Can not categorically say that but looking at 2 incidents Edwards came off for a head knock and was off for the full concussion period and Brown was only off momentarily so you can draw own conclusions. So neck has more importance than head.
Edwards was already dropping to his knees as well
Quote from: Ricochet on June 30, 2015, 02:45:30 PM
Quote from: elephants on June 27, 2015, 12:50:26 AM
Titchell subbed, Sydney lose. No coincidence.
I dont like him running with players, put him back on the ball and let other try and get him
Bird and Robo injured in last weeks NEAFL game, doubt they will get a call up.
Heeney to get a game in the 2s
Sam Reid could go forward, allowing Jones to come in on HB
http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/news/2015-06-29/swans-consider-options-forward
Quote from: Capper on July 01, 2015, 11:19:02 AM
Bird and Robo injured in last weeks NEAFL game
Good for T-Mitch
Quote from: elephants on July 01, 2015, 11:24:52 AM
Quote from: Capper on July 01, 2015, 11:19:02 AM
Bird and Robo injured in last weeks NEAFL game
Good for T-Mitch
Yes and he wont get the green vest either
Quote from: Capper on July 01, 2015, 11:51:47 AM
Quote from: elephants on July 01, 2015, 11:24:52 AM
Quote from: Capper on July 01, 2015, 11:19:02 AM
Bird and Robo injured in last weeks NEAFL game
Good for T-Mitch
Yes and he wont get the green vest either
Good news for us Titch owners. What is it with horse and Titch ?
Pyke, Towers, Nankervis in for Franklin, Tippett, Derickx.
In before MM says thank flower Derickx is out
EMG George Hewett, Brandon Jack, Xavier Richards
Thought Davis might get a run
The Nank!
Quote from: My Chumps on July 01, 2015, 08:29:25 PM
The Nank!
played really well to half time!! 100% over Derrickx
Quote from: SydneyRox on July 02, 2015, 09:09:05 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on July 01, 2015, 08:29:25 PM
The Nank!
played really well to half time!! 100% over Derrickx
Absolutely.
Bloody chuffed with the win tonight albeit over a Port team that's been languishing. Still, no Franklin, Tippet, Rohan subbed early then Richards getting KO'd. We dominated the first half but half way through that third quarter I was getting deja vu from last week. Stoked we knuckled down and got the W.
Also Zak Jones >>>> Reece Shaw. Please keep him in the team Longmire!
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-07-14/in-the-mix-round-16
Experienced defender Ted Richards will return to face Hawthorn in Saturday night's blockbuster at ANZ Stadium, after he missed last week with concussion. Young star Isaac Heeney has 29 touches for the Swans' reserves in his first full game back rom a knee injury, so might be considered by coach John Longmire. Midfielders Craig Bird and Brandon Jack shared 50 possessions, three goals, 10 tackles and 15 clearances in the NEAFL to push their case for a recall, while dumped ruckman Toby Nankervis responded with 56 hit-outs and 21 touches against the Lions' twos. - Adam Curley
Pretty much agree with this as well
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-07-15/whos-on-the-outer
Premiership player Craig Bird's future at the Swans looks uncertain, with the veteran unseen at senior level since playing the first five games of the season. Bird made his name as a run-with player or defensive forward, but the emergence of youngsters Harry Cunningham, Jake Lloyd and Zak Jones has relegated the 26 year-old to the NEAFL. Bird has played 20+ games in each of the past four years, but he'll be lucky to break double figures in 2015. Midfielder Brandon Jack is another who might have to think about a move if he's determined to play regular AFL games. The 21 year-old just can't quite crack the senior side despite being an ultra consistent performer in the reserves, and there doesn't look to be a spot for him in the current Swans team. Ruckman Tom Derickx has gone from the Swans' backup big man last season to the back of the queue, with a healthy Kurt Tippett allowing coach John Longmire to use him to help Mike Pyke. Derickx played in round 13 with Pyke injured, but was then axed, with youngsters Toby Nankervis and Sam Naismith now preferred as the Swans' long term options. - Adam Curley
Quote from: Capper on July 15, 2015, 04:12:43 PM
Pretty much agree with this as well
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-07-15/whos-on-the-outer
Premiership player Craig Bird's future at the Swans looks uncertain, with the veteran unseen at senior level since playing the first five games of the season. Bird made his name as a run-with player or defensive forward, but the emergence of youngsters Harry Cunningham, Jake Lloyd and Zak Jones has relegated the 26 year-old to the NEAFL. Bird has played 20+ games in each of the past four years, but he'll be lucky to break double figures in 2015.
Quote from: Ricochet on January 23, 2015, 05:21:17 PM
Thoughts on CBird being pushed out by these gun kids coming through lads? Or is his role too important
Quote from: Ricochet on January 23, 2015, 05:36:02 PM
Thanks mate. Just something I've been thinking about lately when it comes to you boys. Questioning whether his role keeps him in the side or if these more talented kids overtake him
;)
Mitchell's taken Bird's spot.
Really hope Heeney comes in for Cunningham! Could be super dangerous coming on half way through the third Q.
Teddles should be back
Benny back for the 2s (after injury and birth of his son)
Bird and Lloyd Peris played in the 2s (Lloyd only a half)
BJack now captain of the 2s
http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/video/2015-07-14/swanstv-hcf-injury-update-r16-2015
BJack,Lloyd or Bird the sub this week?
Would assume not Cunningham as he was last week
Not Bird as i think he runs with Mitchell or Hodge
Prob BJack
Just rewatched the 2012 Grand Final in anticipation and boy-oh-boy, I haven't been this keen for a week of football in a long time!
Tippett out for 2-3 with a finger, Teddles suspended and Bird out 3-4 with a calf
Hopefully Pyke comes back or i will make NicNAt my captain.
Heeney comes in after 29 disposals, 2 goals 3 and 11 tackles in the 2s (151 DT points)
Pyke in for Tipett, if not hopefully Davis gets a game.
If Laidler is fit then he will come in for Teddles otherwise Xavier might get a game
Saw this earlier...
So Tippett will miss the Adelaide game with this injury
He has never played against Adelaide since leaving them
So i guess Jetta isnt going back to WA
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-07-27/fans-need-to-show-more-respect-for-goodes-says-jetta
now he will get boo's also
not that i condone it just predicting what will happen
I remember when Sydney were good...
Quote from: elephants on July 27, 2015, 03:00:54 PM
I remember when Sydney were good...
2005 or 2012??
I remember 2012 when WC last played finals footy
Quote from: Capper on July 27, 2015, 05:01:01 PM
Quote from: elephants on July 27, 2015, 03:00:54 PM
I remember when Sydney were good...
2005 or 2012??
I remember 2012 when WC last played finals footy
Back to back 50+ point thumpings #onlyasgoodasyourlastgame
Quote from: elephants on July 27, 2015, 05:02:37 PM
Quote from: Capper on July 27, 2015, 05:01:01 PM
Quote from: elephants on July 27, 2015, 03:00:54 PM
I remember when Sydney were good...
2005 or 2012??
I remember 2012 when WC last played finals footy
Back to back 50+ point thumpings #onlyasgoodasyourlastgame
2014 Round 16
Swans 79-51 Eagles
2013 Round 17
Swans 113-79 Eagles
2012 Round 16
Swans 121-69 Eagles
2011 Round 3
Swans 101-88 Eagles
2010 Round 5
Swans 115-63 Eagles
2009 Round 8
Swans 106-101 Eagles
2008 Round 11
Swans 83-78 Eagles
2008 Round 4
Swans 107-45 Eagles
A loooooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnngggggggggggg time between drinks
But look on the bright side. Look at all those awesome top 5 draft picks you got
#banter
Quote from: elephants on July 27, 2015, 05:02:37 PM
Quote from: Capper on July 27, 2015, 05:01:01 PM
Quote from: elephants on July 27, 2015, 03:00:54 PM
I remember when Sydney were good...
2005 or 2012??
I remember 2012 when WC last played finals footy
Back to back 50+ point thumpings #onlyasgoodasyourlastgame
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 27, 2015, 01:59:31 PM
now he will get boo's also
not that i condone it just predicting what will happen
The more they complain about it, the more I dislike Goodes. I must be a racist...
There are 71 indigenous players on AFL lists. Only one gets boo'd. It simply isn't racism.
Quote from: elephants on July 28, 2015, 05:05:07 PM
There are 71 indigenous players on AFL lists. Only one gets boo'd. It simply isn't racism.
I occasionally boo buddy when I get the chance... but again, not race related.
I also used to make a point of notifying everyone when Milne got the ball, that he was a rapist...
I think the moral of the story is these people are in the public domain of the entertainment industry and should take criticism with a grain of salt (haters gonna hate). That being said Goodes probably doesn't deserve as much as he gets, but he's not doing himself any favours by playing the victim, sticks and stones mate.
oh and Lindsey Thomas... Maybe I am racist? Actually no, every small forward can get flowered.
Quote from: silloc on July 28, 2015, 05:26:39 PM
I also used to make a point of notifying everyone when Milne got the ball, that he was a rapist...
How the flower can you honestly compare raping an innocent woman to whatever the flower you *think* Goodes has done?
Jesus Christ, every person that is booing him is borderline retarded
wow silloc that's pretty bad when there are kids at the games that word is as bad as they come shouldn't be used in public or at all imo not something to joke about or even bring up man
Goodes to me is just an ego-centric average bloke therefore I exercise my right as a paying fan to boo.
Branding me a racist is offensive Mr Jetta.
In saying this, I haven't been to a game this year sooo... Haha
Quote from: elephants on July 28, 2015, 05:36:00 PM
Goodes to me is just an ego-centric average bloke therefore I exercise my right as a paying fan to boo.
Branding me a racist is offensive Mr Jetta.
In saying this, I haven't been to a game this year sooo... Haha
If people booed every "ego-centric average bloke" in the AFL you wouldn't stop booing the whole goddamn game
silloc you say "sticks and stones" as if it's a motto of yours
doesn't that make all your efforts to put hate on players pointless?
Quote from: My Chumps on July 28, 2015, 05:40:54 PM
Quote from: elephants on July 28, 2015, 05:36:00 PM
Goodes to me is just an ego-centric average bloke therefore I exercise my right as a paying fan to boo.
Branding me a racist is offensive Mr Jetta.
In saying this, I haven't been to a game this year sooo... Haha
If people booed every "ego-centric average bloke" in the AFL you wouldn't stop booing the whole goddamn game
Its the publicity of Goodes that magnifies this though, pushing his agenda. Personally I couldn't care less about him or the boo'ing but one thing is for sure, cheap news for FoxFooty.
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 28, 2015, 05:42:22 PM
silloc you say "sticks and stones" as if it's a motto of yours
doesn't that make all your efforts to put hate on players pointless?
I guess, but isn't the fun of being at the footy being vocal?? boo/cheer/yell/scream. Do you really think "most" footy players care what you say to them over the fence??? footy player brain "What ever you ugly unfit prick, how much money do you earn???"
And I'd like to point out, when I refer to Milne being a rapist its watching it at home with mates. I'm hardly the kind of person who would yell that kind of thing at the footy.
Whether it's racist or not, I think we can all agree that it's childish
Quote from: Big Mac on July 28, 2015, 05:58:30 PM
Whether it's racist or not, I think we can all agree that it's childish
This.
There would be a few that are racist but by enlarge the majority of fans are not, I hope this is the case anyway.
Journo's trying to beat it up into a racism issue need to have a long hard look at themselves as it certainly doesn't help.
Theres an element of fans that don't like him because 1) they think he's a sook 2) think he's a bit dirty in how he plays 3) because he called out a 13 year old girl over the ape comment and then there is an element of the crowd that just follows the rest and has no idea why they are doing it they just do.
Unless you are black you can never truely understand what a black man or woman experiences in life and how it affects them, you can guess but you'll never really know, I repeat you will never KNOW. When you strip it all away Goodes is a decent indigenous man who has made something of himself and done a great deal for his indigenous people. There are many indigenous people that haven't and we are all aware of those just as we are aware of the white folk that are equally as bad but we don't paint all the white folk with the same brush and we should do the same with the indigenous population. Treat each other as individuals is the best approach.
It's ok not to like someone as long as your reasons are just and sound, not everyone likes everyone and that's ok. If you don't like him simply because he is black then im sorry you have some work to do on yourself but that's your business don't bring that to football. Adams biggest mistake i feel is letting on that it affects him, we all have had someone have a dig at us and if we let on it's getting to us then those doing it will go harder at you it's a human nature thing that's why it's always best to laugh it off or suck it up in those situations otherwise you are always going to be fair game for those that will have a dig.
Unless you are indigenous you can't pretend to know what you would do or how you would react if you were in the same situation, you have to of lived all your life black to truely know.
Didnt watch the game over the weekend and wont as we got thumped.
Saw Goodes first goal and heard the crowd boo. Thought it was cause there was a push in the back.
If they booed all night, well what else do you expect from WC fans?
They might think by doing it they are trying to knock him off his game. But it isnt working. He isnt the superstar he was but he is still good enough.
Quote from: Capper on July 28, 2015, 06:12:35 PM
If they booed all night, well what else do you expect from WC fans?
Terrible call. Where's your pot-shot at the other teams fans who have been booing Goodes for months?
Quote from: elephants on July 28, 2015, 06:18:01 PM
Quote from: Capper on July 28, 2015, 06:12:35 PM
If they booed all night, well what else do you expect from WC fans?
Terrible call. Where's your pot-shot at the other teams fans who have been booing Goodes for months?
They're non-Sydney fans. :P
I'm amazed that goodes can play AFL at all with such a thin skin really the only thing he can justify being dirty about is Eddies massive flower up , a child called him an ape and there was an overreaction to that now he is getting booed and it's crisis again , harden up or leave the game what a sook
Quote from: elephants on July 28, 2015, 06:18:01 PM
Quote from: Capper on July 28, 2015, 06:12:35 PM
If they booed all night, well what else do you expect from WC fans?
Terrible call. Where's your pot-shot at the other teams fans who have been booing Goodes for months?
This is true, just about every club has had a crack at booing him.
Im not sure why the AFL and media are singling out WC supporters to the point they are.
WC supporters are a passionate bunch and make it tough for appossing teams when they play there
after all isn't that what we'd all like for our supporters, to make it as uncomfortable as possible for them.
Just a warning here keep the comments civil and do not attack members. We do not want to have to lock this thread. No issues as yet but some comments are getting close to the line.
This is getting beyond the joke. I think the media should be careful too, because falsely accusing people of being racist is almost as bad as saying something racist.
Quote from: Grazz on July 28, 2015, 06:29:41 PM
Quote from: elephants on July 28, 2015, 06:18:01 PM
Quote from: Capper on July 28, 2015, 06:12:35 PM
If they booed all night, well what else do you expect from WC fans?
Terrible call. Where's your pot-shot at the other teams fans who have been booing Goodes for months?
This is true, just about every club has had a crack at booing him.
Im not sure why the AFL and media are singling out WC supporters to the point they are.
WC supporters are a passionate bunch and make it tough for appossing teams when they play there
after all isn't that what we'd all like for our supporters, to make it as uncomfortable as possible for them.
The AFLs thinking...
"A non-Victorian team boo'd him... ATTACK!"
The real joke is the people along with Goodes claiming that this is racist.... Goodes is a dirty barbie and had even done it numerous times this year like grabbing hunts nuts ! The guys is a flower head. There is nothing more too it'! Couldn't care if he is white black blue beige yellow brown Orange or blue... The guys a piece of shower and I'm embarrassed for our country for him to be named Australian of the year.
If Goodes came out and said, "look guys, the booing is affecting me mentally and I don't appreciate it any more", most sensible people would have some sympathy for him and probabaly hold back on the booing and he would actually gain a bit of that lost respect back, but when he keeps crying racism when its not it's just making life worse for him. I was at the game on the weekend and the umpires copped more booing than Goodes did. I didn't boo once even though I dislike Goodes a whole lot and I think it's stupid to boo someone everytime they touch the ball, but think it's understandable to boo someone when they take a cheap shot at somebody or do something dodgy.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/supercoach-2015-lance-franklin-and-tom-mitchell-job-security-a-late-season-concern/story-fnp04d70-1227459992922?utm_content=SocialFlow&utm_campaign=EditorialSF&utm_source=HeraldSun&utm_medium=Twitter
#subjectchange
Quote from: jvalles69 on July 28, 2015, 06:46:00 PM
If Goodes came out and said, "look guys, the booing is affecting me mentally and I don't appreciate it any more", most sensible people would have some sympathy for him and probabaly hold back on the booing and he would actually gain a bit of that lost respect back, but when he keeps crying racism when its not it's just making life worse for him. I was at the game on the weekend and the umpires copped more booing than Goodes did. I didn't boo once even though I dislike Goodes a whole lot and I think it's stupid to boo someone everytime they touch the ball, but think it's understandable to boo someone when they take a cheap shot at somebody or do something dodgy.
spot the flower on my man!
Quote from: elephants on July 28, 2015, 06:18:01 PM
Quote from: Capper on July 28, 2015, 06:12:35 PM
If they booed all night, well what else do you expect from WC fans?
Terrible call. Where's your pot-shot at the other teams fans who have been booing Goodes for months?
Not having a pot shot at WC fans for booing Goodes. Having a pot shot at WC fans for booing. Thats all they do. Its hard to please WC fans even with all the top 5 draft picks they have had
Quote from: Nige on July 28, 2015, 06:23:02 PM
Quote from: elephants on July 28, 2015, 06:18:01 PM
Quote from: Capper on July 28, 2015, 06:12:35 PM
If they booed all night, well what else do you expect from WC fans?
Terrible call. Where's your pot-shot at the other teams fans who have been booing Goodes for months?
They're non-Sydney fans. :P
That doesnt make sense Nige. Besides not all teams have been booing him.
And Goodes and just taken a leave of absence from training. Sounds like he wont play this weekend as well.
Expect the AFL to come down hard now on this issue
Quote from: elephants on July 28, 2015, 06:38:40 PM
Quote from: Grazz on July 28, 2015, 06:29:41 PM
Quote from: elephants on July 28, 2015, 06:18:01 PM
Quote from: Capper on July 28, 2015, 06:12:35 PM
If they booed all night, well what else do you expect from WC fans?
Terrible call. Where's your pot-shot at the other teams fans who have been booing Goodes for months?
This is true, just about every club has had a crack at booing him.
Im not sure why the AFL and media are singling out WC supporters to the point they are.
WC supporters are a passionate bunch and make it tough for appossing teams when they play there
after all isn't that what we'd all like for our supporters, to make it as uncomfortable as possible for them.
The VFLs thinking...
"A non-Victorian team boo'd him... ATTACK!"
fixed
Quote from: Capper on July 28, 2015, 07:16:31 PM
Quote from: elephants on July 28, 2015, 06:18:01 PM
Quote from: Capper on July 28, 2015, 06:12:35 PM
If they booed all night, well what else do you expect from WC fans?
Terrible call. Where's your pot-shot at the other teams fans who have been booing Goodes for months?
Not having a pot shot at WC fans for booing Goodes. Having a pot shot at WC fans for booing. Thats all they do. Its hard to please WC fans even with all the top 5 draft picks they have had
Not having a pot shot at WC fans.... Has a pot shot at WC fans.
I worry about you man haha
One thing that is sure this latest storm in a teacup will increase the booing , maybe that is what Adam wants so that he can continue his complaints into the future ?
Quote from: shaker on July 28, 2015, 07:23:48 PM
One thing that is sure this latest storm in a teacup will increase the booing , maybe that is what Adam wants so that he can continue his complaints into the future ?
yeah i'm sure he loves it.........................
So much attention, so much Adam Goodes talk!
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 28, 2015, 06:47:17 PM
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/supercoach-2015-lance-franklin-and-tom-mitchell-job-security-a-late-season-concern/story-fnp04d70-1227459992922?utm_content=SocialFlow&utm_campaign=EditorialSF&utm_source=HeraldSun&utm_medium=Twitter
#subjectchange
Nothing to worry about there KB. Buddy misses a week every now and then. If he was stil at the Hawks he would miss a game very now and then as well.
Regarding Titch and the sub. horse loves to mix around the subs every week it seems. Dont think Titch will be the sub again for a while
I think Sydney should be focusing on why they are getting flogged multiple times by 40+ points rather than focusing on 1 man...
Quote from: elephants on July 28, 2015, 07:22:28 PM
Quote from: Capper on July 28, 2015, 07:16:31 PM
Quote from: elephants on July 28, 2015, 06:18:01 PM
Quote from: Capper on July 28, 2015, 06:12:35 PM
If they booed all night, well what else do you expect from WC fans?
Terrible call. Where's your pot-shot at the other teams fans who have been booing Goodes for months?
Not having a pot shot at WC fans for booing Goodes. Having a pot shot at WC fans for booing. Thats all they do. Its hard to please WC fans even with all the top 5 draft picks they have had
Not having a pot shot at WC fans.... Has a pot shot at WC fans.
I worry about you man haha
I always have pot shots at WC ever since the 05 final. #banter
Also AFL and Goodes, why don't we revisit the same thing 1 year ago. flowering morons.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-17/dont-lose-the-boos (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-17/dont-lose-the-boos)
Quote from: jvalles69 on July 28, 2015, 07:30:40 PM
I think Sydney should be focusing on why they are getting flogged multiple times by 40+ points rather than focusing on 1 man...
AFL and the media is trying to get on the back page of the paper in Sydney and still cant. Still 10 pages in after league, cricket, horse racing, etc
The flogging just mean they go further back in to the paper
What a load of bullshower
I must been hearing things because I am pretty damn sure I hear booing at every single freaking match every bloody weekend and it's not just directed at the umpires
Dont know why we are chasing Berger.
No way we could afford him.
Not sure what this journo is thinking
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-07-28/swans-ruck-dilemna-shapes-as-trade-restrictions-bite
Quote from: The_Captain on July 28, 2015, 06:40:32 PM
The real joke is the people along with Goodes claiming that this is racist.... Goodes is a dirty barbie and had even done it numerous times this year like grabbing hunts nuts ! The guys is a flower head. There is nothing more too it'! Couldn't care if he is white black blue beige yellow brown Orange or blue... The guys a piece of shower and I'm embarrassed for our country for him to be named Australian of the year.
Have you even watched footage of that Taylor Hunt incident? I bet you've only seen the freeze frame, haven't you? Watch the footage. There's absolutely nothing in it. Please refrain from making comments on incidents you haven't looked into.
Goodes has been a well respected and liked player for his whole career. I'm finding it really hard to see what he's done wrong here.
I've heard a lot of people site the thirteen year old girl incident - Goodes pointed to the crowd before he knew who had said it. "Ape" is a racial slur, no matter how you spin it. It's downright racism. Goodes pointed to the crowd to let the security know that something had been said, as per AFL rules of fines and even bans when racism occurs. It occurred in the final few minutes of the opening game of indigenous round in which Goodes had amassed 30+ touches, and being the proud Aboriginal he is he did what was necessary. BUT most importantly, upon realising it was a 13 year old girl, he actually felt sympathy. If you listen to the eloquent, beautifully illustrated and completely sympathetic interviews with Goodes after the incident, he said he was absolutely shocked when he realised who had done it. He said "it's not her fault" and that she needs all the support and education the football world can offer her. What else can this guy do?
Watch this interview people. How can people think Adam's a bad bloke? How is it that when Nicky Winmar stands up for his people he's a hero, but when Goodes does it he's a villain?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyrbUiJCkVw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyrbUiJCkVw)
Please read all of this champ. And then counter with the exact reasons you're booing Goodes. Can people even remember why they started anymore?
Wouldn't mind it if every aboriginal AFL player started doing that dance after they kick a goal.
Quote from: My Chumps on July 29, 2015, 12:30:59 AM
Quote from: The_Captain on July 28, 2015, 06:40:32 PM
The real joke is the people along with Goodes claiming that this is racist.... Goodes is a dirty barbie and had even done it numerous times this year like grabbing hunts nuts ! The guys is a flower head. There is nothing more too it'! Couldn't care if he is white black blue beige yellow brown Orange or blue... The guys a piece of shower and I'm embarrassed for our country for him to be named Australian of the year.
Have you even watched footage of that Taylor Hunt incident? I bet you've only seen the freeze frame, haven't you? Watch the footage. There's absolutely nothing in it. Please refrain from making comments on incidents you haven't looked into.
Goodes has been a well respected and liked player for his whole career. I'm finding it really hard to see what he's done wrong here.
I've heard a lot of people site the thirteen year old girl incident - Goodes pointed to the crowd before he knew who had said it. "Ape" is a racial slur, no matter how you spin it. It's downright racism. Goodes pointed to the crowd to let the security know that something had been said, as per AFL rules of fines and even bans when racism occurs. It occurred in the final few minutes of the opening game of indigenous round in which Goodes had amassed 30+ touches, and being the proud Aboriginal he is he did what was necessary. BUT most importantly, upon realising it was a 13 year old girl, he actually felt sympathy. If you listen to the eloquent, beautifully illustrated and completely sympathetic interviews with Goodes after the incident, he said he was absolutely shocked when he realised who had done it. He said "it's not her fault" and that she needs all the support and education the football world can offer her. What else can this guy do?
Watch this interview people. How can people think Adam's a bad bloke? How is it that when Nicky Winmar stands up for his people he's a hero, but when Goodes does it he's a villain?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyrbUiJCkVw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyrbUiJCkVw)
Please read all of this champ. And then counter with the exact reasons you're booing Goodes. Can people even remember why they started anymore?
Agree about the Hunt incident, nothing in it whatsoever. However the reason I dislike Goodes is mainly becuase of the dirty stuff he does on field and acts like he's inoccent. The slide was banned because he was hurting opponenets and he got suspended for this, plus I can mention a dozen or so incidents where he has taken a cheap shot at a player to win the ball and when the plays over tries to make up with that player, I've even seen this year Jelwood mouth the words, "flower off" when he tried to apologise to him for throwing a Jon Jones style up-elbow into Selwoods face.
so embarrassing, it's laughable! even Indigenous Round had to be on white man's terms...
"how dare he perform a traditional war dance, I wasn't expecting it this round, I was offended, it was confronting, blah blah blah..."
let's face it, it's that old "should know his place" mentality... people just can't handle strong, visible Aboriginals who confront them. now knowing that Adam has stated that it hurts him and he perceives it as being racist, will the idiots still do it, because it's their right as a paying spectator, don't you tell me what to do, rubbish...
these neanderthals could do well to watch John Pilger's, 'Utopia', they just might wake up and learn something.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVfzsZm09WE
Quote from: Donnie Brasco on July 29, 2015, 10:55:39 AM
so embarrassing, it's laughable! even Indigenous Round had to be on white man's terms...
"how dare he do traditional war dance, I wasn't expecting it this round, I was offended, it was confronting, blah blah blah..."
let's face it, it's that old "should know his place" mentality... people just can't handle strong, visible Aboriginals who confront them. now knowing that Adam has stated that it hurts him and he perceives it as being racist, will the idiots still do it, because it's their right as a paying spectator, don't you tell me what to do, rubbish...
these neanderthals could do well to watch John Pilger's, 'Utopia', they just might wake up and learn something.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVfzsZm09WE
Not sure I've heard anyone complain about the war dance? Most ppl thought it was pretty cool to see, but then there are some in the crowd who get fired up during the game and it IS a form of incitement towards the crowd no doubt about it.
I've actually recently heard indigenous aussies disliking the way Goodes is going about this racism, I know a lot of people who dislike Goodes and not one of the reasons is because of his skin colour.
Just to clarify, some of you may see that I'm quite passionate about this issue and here's why.
My parents are Burmese, but both moved to Perth WA when they were kids so I was born and raised in Perth. I have had more than my fair share of racism from being called a "curry muncher", to walking out of a Port game in SA after West Coast thumped them and 1 guys say to me, "what would you know about footy anyway, you're an Asian", and this only occured less than 5 years ago, those words will remain with me forever, however I have a better head to know that dealing with these people is a waste of my time to the point where I just feel sorry for these people. Now for people who have experienced REAL racism (and I understand Goodes has experienced this too) it's offensive to see someone trivialise racism by calling EVERYTHING racism. That really grinds my gears Peter Griffin.
Quote from: jvalles69 on July 29, 2015, 11:06:29 AM
Just to clarify, some of you may see that I'm quite passionate about this issue and here's why.
My parents are Burmese, but both moved to Perth WA when they were kids so I was born and raised in Perth. I have had more than my fair share of racism from being called a "curry muncher", to walking out of a Port game in SA after West Coast thumped them and 1 guys say to me, "what would you know about footy anyway, you're an Asian", and this only occured less than 5 years ago, those words will remain with me forever, however I have a better head to know that dealing with these people is a waste of my time to the point where I just feel sorry for these people. Now for people who have experienced REAL racism (and I understand Goodes has experienced this too) it's offensive to see someone trivialise racism by calling EVERYTHING racism. That really grinds my gears Peter Griffin.
and its shower like this that makes me not turn up to Swans games. I told a couple of people to pull their heads in at the last game i went to and their attitude and behaviour was disgraceful especially in front of children. Luckily security stepped in as there was almost a punch up between Swans fans in the bus line back to central after a 50yo man was pushing through the line with his 70+ yo father and the 50yo man objected as one man they tried to push through didnt budge. Both men were sat down and waited for a couple of bus loads to go through before boarding.
I too have had my fair share of knocks and abuse during my life as well. Whether it be from my name or my colour. Born and raised in Australia just like my parents but my mums parents came from Poland and Russia.
Lets get the thread back on to the footy and stop fueling the fire of racism. I agree we cant sweep it under the blanket but lets stop giving the 1% of the people out there causing the issue the headline.
here you go, we'll give you a token, round of footy, just keep quiet, don't upset anybody or hurt their feelings... bottom line, the almighty dollar.
we like things our own way, "the right way", as they've always been, and if for a brief moment it's challenged, we can't handle or understand it... that's not suppose to happen, what's going on, they're usually hidden, rarely seen nor heard, and there's outrage...
Quote from: Capper on July 29, 2015, 11:30:18 AM
Lets get the thread back on to the footy and stop fueling the fire of racism. I agree we cant sweep it under the blanket but lets stop giving the 1% of the people out there causing the issue the headline.
AJ to appear on Open mike about his 3 years of rehab
http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/news/2015-07-28/johnson-to-appear-on-open-mike
Can Dane Rampe either breakout and become premo or continue to lockdown and fall into fantasy obscurity?
Just make up your damn mind man!
Quote from: elephants on August 03, 2015, 11:50:19 AM
Can Dane Rampe either breakout and become premo or continue to lockdown and fall into fantasy obscurity?
Just make up your damn mind man!
Rampe doing just fine
Quote from: SydneyRox on August 03, 2015, 04:00:20 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 03, 2015, 11:50:19 AM
Can Dane Rampe either breakout and become premo or continue to lockdown and fall into fantasy obscurity?
Just make up your damn mind man!
Rampe doing just fine
I cant pick him in draft when he's diving between 50s and 130s haha
Quote from: elephants on August 04, 2015, 11:38:01 AM
I cant pick him in draft when he's diving between 50s and 130s haha
np. leave him there for me!
Quote from: SydneyRox on August 04, 2015, 11:41:37 AM
Quote from: elephants on August 04, 2015, 11:38:01 AM
I cant pick him in draft when he's diving between 50s and 130s haha
np. leave him there for me!
Too much of a risk to play him I think, same as Howe haha
Quote from: elephants on August 04, 2015, 11:43:27 AM
Quote from: SydneyRox on August 04, 2015, 11:41:37 AM
Quote from: elephants on August 04, 2015, 11:38:01 AM
I cant pick him in draft when he's diving between 50s and 130s haha
np. leave him there for me!
Too much of a risk to play him I think, same as Howe haha
Sometimes he is the +1 behind play against the easier teams, sometimes he takes the main forward.
Welcome to selecting Swans players in fantasy teams. They have been giving Swans fans headaches for years
After 2 recos on one knee, Lloyd Perris has done his ACL on his good knee and had LARS surgery on Monday
Quote from: Capper on August 26, 2015, 05:28:22 PM
After 2 recos on one knee, Lloyd Perris has done his ACL on his good knee and had LARS surgery on Monday
Poor bloke.
Quote from: Capper on August 26, 2015, 05:28:22 PM
After 2 recos on one knee, Lloyd Perris has done his ACL on his good knee and had LARS surgery on Monday
Some just never catch a break at all. Feel for him.
I hope this is just an admin error
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-21/swans-fined-2500-over-asada-breach
Quote from: Capper on September 21, 2015, 01:15:07 PM
I hope this is just an admin error
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-21/swans-fined-2500-over-asada-breach
yeah, sounds to me like someone moved houses and the paperwork slipped through the cracks.
Jetta wants to head home and has been asked to be traded to a WA team