After messing around with many teams and trying to get to clever, I've decided to go back to a basic structure.
B Smith, H Shaw, M Hibberd, B Waters, B Whitecross, S Edwards.
(K McIntosh, N Newman.)
G Ablett, S Pendlebury, J Selwood, R Sloane, R Griffin, S Biggs, I Heeney, B Boekhorst.
(A Vandenberg, N Freeman, J Steele m/f.)
N Naitanui, M Leuenberger. (M Cox r/f.)
R Gray, B Deledio, B Goddard, D Swan, M Clark, J Hogan.
(D Menzel, C Daniel.)
9.10.11 bye structure, 4k in the kitty.
Not to worried about ruck cover at this stage as I can't see TBC racking up huge scores. If Nic Nat or Lewy go down, I'll just trade in another ruck. Hopefully Lewy can make 100k before that happens.
Could raise more funds by going Gray to Dusty/Buddy but will leave it at this stage.
Advice and comments welcomed.
Thanks in advance !
Gray should average around 110 again so that's s good pick. Downgrading to buddy wouldn't do much harm.
Whitecross can he force his way into the 22? Waters only ever being fantasy relevant for 2 years, he could pull out 65-70 average
Midfield is rock solid I'm not sure on Sloane there are better options around his price. Still average 110-115 as a pod and you'd take that.
Good start Mate
Quote from: creeker on December 31, 2014, 10:40:25 AM
After messing around with many teams and trying to get to clever, I've decided to go back to a basic structure.
B Smith, H Shaw, M Hibberd, B Waters, B Whitecross, S Edwards.
(K McIntosh, N Newman.)
G Ablett, S Pendlebury, J Selwood, R Sloane, R Griffin, S Biggs, I Heeney, B Boekhorst.
(A Vandenberg, N Freeman, J Steele m/f.)
N Naitanui, M Leuenberger. (M Cox r/f.)
R Gray, B Deledio, B Goddard, D Swan, M Clark, J Hogan.
(D Menzel, C Daniel.)
9.10.11 bye structure, 4k in the kitty.
Not to worried about ruck cover at this stage as I can't see TBC racking up huge scores. If Nic Nat or Lewy go down, I'll just trade in another ruck. Hopefully Lewy can make 100k before that happens.
Could raise more funds by going Gray to Dusty/Buddy but will leave it at this stage.
Advice and comments welcomed.
Thanks in advance !
Very good team if you are happy with the no ruck cover. I see where you are coming from.
I actually disagree with FT as I think Whitex and Waters are great picks (at the moment) and I also love Sloane and he is in my top 6-7 midfielders that im considering and just didn't make the cut for me.
Gray is over priced but still will be the top forward this year and I don't really see what you would do with the extra cash so I am happy with you to have him.
Maybe you could upgrade Griffen to someone but I don't think it would really make much difference as Martin/Kennedy and Gray/Griffen will score close to the same.
Nice Structure Creeker.
Like most probably hoping a rookie ruck starts playing early and our problems will be solved.
You have options if Waters or Whitecross do not start but at their prices and what they are capable of hard to ignore for the cash gains. Could develop into keepers as well.
Gray as been said a little overpriced but will still be in Top 10 forwrads so if not using cash gainfully elsewhere no need to downgrade. great to have that option up your sleeve for later though when trying to sort rookies.
Only real issue for those going the 5 prem/6 rookies structure is selecting the right rookies up front to ensure you have 3 playing each week. Nail that and you are set.
Sound advice from the above comments - many thanks.
This ruck issue is doing my head in, so in usual form, I do my best work while hung over from a big New Years Eve.
Have come up with a new theory which requires a playing F7. The problem with playing Bellchambers in the forward line is if Ess play early, then there is late out in the rucks later in the weekend, his score is already locked in, we can't swap him into the rucks so even though we have ruck cover, we still cop a donut.
Had to have a little re shuffle of the team to make it happen.
B Smith, M Hibberd, G Ibbotson, B Waters, B Whitecross, S Edwards.
(K McIntosh, N Newman.)
G Ablett, S Pendlebury, J Selwood, R Sloane, R Griffin, N Van Berlo, I Heeney, B Boekhorst.
(A Vandenberg, N Freeman, J Steele m/f.)
N Naitanui, M Leuenberger. (T Bellchambers r/f)
B Deledio, B Goddard, D Martin, D Swan, M Clark, J Hogan.
(C Daniel, T Read r/f.)
Seems to be big money sitting on the ruck bench but when we are paying 302k for TBC, he only has to rack up 56 points each game to break even. Surely he can make us some money at that price. On the weeks where Ess play later in the weekends, TBC can be swung into the forward line. Seems the best way to get total ruck cover.
10/11/9 bye structure, 28.4k in the kitty.
Thoughts welcomed.
Like the idea don't know if it will work all the time but like it in theory.
Very good team though can't really fault it.
Not sure about the love with Ibbotson but everyone's picking him anyways.
Love to hear your thoughts on mind team.
Why not play TBC permanently as fwd as he will score as well if not better than Clark or Hogan leaving Read as R3. that way you will get the benefit of TBC score each week and only need to rely on him as a ruck when required.
Point taken with Essendon playing before Geelong but should only be a problem with a late out Of Nat or Berger. usually if that is the case there is talk of injury so if rumours surface that is when you move TBC to bench as cover.
Like your team structure and team couple of nice PODS in Sloane, Griffin and Ibbo as well.
good looking team creeker.
Ringo MS and FT all provided good feedback. One to think of for back line is Rampe, with Malcheski buggering off he has opportunity to step up as key clearance kicker for Swans. Good age and experience for break out and has possible 100 avg within his grasp.
I cant take Dusty as a starter just too inconsistent and not capable of ultra high scores. Would rather see Franklin or Swan. At least with Swan you know he is going to get 90 even with a bad year and is possible to get back to 110 and make him top forward.
cheers
Quote from: Ringo on January 01, 2015, 03:28:10 PM
Why not play TBC permanently as fwd as he will score as well if not better than Clark or Hogan leaving Read as R3. that way you will get the benefit of TBC score each week and only need to rely on him as a ruck when required.
Point taken with Essendon playing before Geelong but should only be a problem with a late out Of Nat or Berger. usually if that is the case there is talk of injury so if rumours surface that is when you move TBC to bench as cover.
Like your team structure and team couple of nice PODS in Sloane, Griffin and Ibbo as well.
Agreed Ringo, most weeks we can play TBC forward. Just making the point that we will have to keep a close eye on the draw. Nothing worse than having ruck cover and still copping a donut with a late withdrawal.
Thanks for the above feedback. Cheers.
Quote from: crowls on January 01, 2015, 03:37:41 PM
good looking team creeker.
Ringo MS and FT all provided good feedback. One to think of for back line is Rampe, with Malcheski buggering off he has opportunity to step up as key clearance kicker for Swans. Good age and experience for break out and has possible 100 avg within his grasp.
I cant take Dusty as a starter just too inconsistent and not capable of ultra high scores. Would rather see Franklin or Swan. At least with Swan you know he is going to get 90 even with a bad year and is possible to get back to 110 and make him top forward.
cheers
Thanks Crowls.
Was all over Rampe a few months ago and I think the news could get even better for us. Think it's a toss up between Rampe and Zac Jones to see who will get the Eski role. If Jones was to get the job at around 200k, it would solve a few problems in our backlines. Will have eyes glued to Sydney's pre seasons games.
Cheers for the feed back mate.
Jones no chance at HB role, his kicking Is a real problem. May work his way into the Sydney midfield as he his tough as nails, sub option at this stage in his career.
I'd bring Rampe in for Ibbo. Ibbo has such a huge range of scoring 65-95. Rampe is more 80-100 IMO. No matter whether Rampe breaks out or not!
Watch griffin he will get tagged. I think if you have Bellchambers as cover, having 1 premo is too much cash in the rucks.
IMO 2 midppriced and cover or 2 premos no cover. Not in between.
Great looking team though!
Yet another re-shuffle !
H Shaw, M Hibberd, S Hurn, B Waters, B Whitecross, S Edwards.
(D Viojo-Rainbow, N Newman.)
G Ablett, S Pendlebury, J Selwood, R Sloane, R Gray, S Biggs, I Heeney, A Vandenberg.
(N Freeman, J Steele, K Lambert.)
M Kreuzer, M Leuenberger. (T Bellchambers r/f.)
B Deledio, B Goddard, D Martin, D Swan, M Clark, J Hogan.
(C Daniel, T Read r/f.)
9/10/11. bye structure. Cutting it fine with 3k left over.
Question. Is it to weird to start Robbie Gray in the mids ? Really want him in my team but there is so much value to pick from in the forward line. (Must haves)
He would slip down into the forwards when Clark and Hogan moo !
Not overly happy with the Kreuz/Lewy combo but they are good value and you can bolster other lines with the money saved here.
Bellchambers would start forward most weeks.
Keen to hear your thoughts on the Robbie Gray situation.
Thanks in advance.
Quote from: creeker on January 04, 2015, 12:18:35 PM
Yet another re-shuffle !
H Shaw, M Hibberd, S Hurn, B Waters, B Whitecross, S Edwards.
(D Viojo-Rainbow, N Newman.)
G Ablett, S Pendlebury, J Selwood, R Sloane, R Gray, S Biggs, I Heeney, A Vandenberg.
(N Freeman, J Steele, K Lambert.)
M Kreuzer, M Leuenberger. (T Bellchambers r/f.)
B Deledio, B Goddard, D Martin, D Swan, M Clark, J Hogan.
(C Daniel, T Read r/f.)
9/10/11. bye structure. Cutting it fine with 3k left over.
Question. Is it to weird to start Robbie Gray in the mids ? Really want him in my team but there is so much value to pick from in the forward line. (Must haves)
He would slip down into the forwards when Clark and Hogan moo !
Not overly happy with the Kreuz/Lewy combo but they are good value and you can bolster other lines with the money saved here.
Bellchambers would start forward most weeks.
Keen to hear your thoughts on the Robbie Gray situation.
Thanks in advance.
I personally wouldn't start Gray in the mids but still think he wouldn't be a bad pick!
Just think people like Ward are better but I wouldn't be to suprised if Gray out scored him!
Very good team with some good unique players!
Quote from: creeker on January 04, 2015, 12:18:35 PM
Yet another re-shuffle !
H Shaw, M Hibberd, S Hurn, B Waters, B Whitecross, S Edwards.
(D Viojo-Rainbow, N Newman.)
G Ablett, S Pendlebury, J Selwood, R Sloane, R Gray, S Biggs, I Heeney, A Vandenberg.
(N Freeman, J Steele, K Lambert.)
M Kreuzer, M Leuenberger. (T Bellchambers r/f.)
B Deledio, B Goddard, D Martin, D Swan, M Clark, J Hogan.
(C Daniel, T Read r/f.)
9/10/11. bye structure. Cutting it fine with 3k left over.
Question. Is it to weird to start Robbie Gray in the mids ? Really want him in my team but there is so much value to pick from in the forward line. (Must haves)
He would slip down into the forwards when Clark and Hogan moo !
Not overly happy with the Kreuz/Lewy combo but they are good value and you can bolster other lines with the money saved here.
Bellchambers would start forward most weeks.
Keen to hear your thoughts on the Robbie Gray situation.
Thanks in advance.
Overall nice squad. With regards to Gray, I two have been in two minds on whether to go with him. Personally I think if you go with him, it should be forward, but there has been some debate on whether if you hold off on him, you can pick him up during the season at a better price, or whether he can continue on from last season and continue upwards. Just remember though, with the exception of Harvey, in the forwards he is about $50k more than most options, so it might be worth saving the cash an having him as an upgrade target.
I'd also switch Read & Bellchambers. Bellchambers is too much cash to sit on the bench, and will add considerable stength to your forwards if you make that switch.
Creeker
I like your first team better mate. You made a decision on your ruck strategy and it is as valid as the Belly for cover strategy.
Better balance all round in this team to the next couple. Hang in there and gwyg when the rookies become clearer. By then we will all know if we need to find some more cash etc.
Cheers
I TINKER WAY TO MUCH WITH TEAMS !!!!!
Feel free to comment on this team but it is here more as a reference for me. Early days yet but I will monitor how some of these guys pre seasons go before I lock them in. Will look back on it as the season draws closer.
H Shaw, M Hibberd, S Hurn, B Waters, B Whitecross. S Edwards.
(D Viojo-Rainbow, N Newman.)
G Ablett, S Pendlebury, J Selwood, R Sloane, P Dangerfield, I Heeney, B Boekhorst, A Vandenberg.
(N Freeman, J Steele, K Lambert.)
N Naitanui, M Leuenberger. (M Cox.)
R Gray, B Deledio, D Swan, T Mitchell, M Walters, M Clark.
(J Hogan, C Daniel.)
9/11/10 bye structure. Budget stuffed, $100 bucks left over.
Most forward lines are looking to similar so have tried to mix it up a little.
While putting this team together yesterday, there was a replay of the Swans v Port game on tele. Gray was everywhere and it just reminded me of how much I need him in my team.
T Mitchell will be a major watch. A full injury free pre season, we know what he is capable of.
Gone back to Walters over TBC. Just believe he will score much better.
Hello there sir,
You always finish higher than me so take this advice with a grain of salt....
What was white and black, is now brown and orange, averages 18.5 seasons over the past 9, and almost certain to implode at some stage?
I don't like him or the backline in general. While it is a value line, this is a line riddled with players that miss. It screams donuts and trades... A few more players that play 22 would be a recommendation.
Would also apply this to the rucks, I think Minson will improve 10ppg under a new coach and him and Goldy for me are a good compromise between value and durability..
Aside from that, hard to fault sir, may be Goddard in the forward line??
Quote from: Samm79 on January 05, 2015, 08:57:49 PM
Hello there sir,
You always finish higher than me so take this advice with a grain of salt....
What was white and black, is now brown and orange, averages 18.5 seasons over the past 9, and almost certain to implode at some stage?
I don't like him or the backline in general. While it is a value line, this is a line riddled with players that miss. It screams donuts and trades... A few more players that play 22 would be a recommendation.
Would also apply this to the rucks, I think Minson will improve 10ppg under a new coach and him and Goldy for me are a good compromise between value and durability..
Aside from that, hard to fault sir, may be Goddard in the forward line??
This guy has a point with the back line.
Rucks are great value so would stick with them but I don't see any of them playing more that 20 games to be honest.
Quote from: Samm79 on January 05, 2015, 08:57:49 PM
Hello there sir,
You always finish higher than me so take this advice with a grain of salt....
What was white and black, is now brown and orange, averages 18.5 seasons over the past 9, and almost certain to implode at some stage?
I don't like him or the backline in general. While it is a value line, this is a line riddled with players that miss. It screams donuts and trades... A few more players that play 22 would be a recommendation.
Would also apply this to the rucks, I think Minson will improve 10ppg under a new coach and him and Goldy for me are a good compromise between value and durability..
Aside from that, hard to fault sir, may be Goddard in the forward line??
Cheers Samm79.
Question should of been, What was black and white, is now brown and orange, averages 18.5 games over the past 9, (LIKES A PUNT) and almost certain to implode at some stage.
You do make a very good point. Advice taken on board. Have been burnt by Shaw before
Not yet on the Newnes train - will monitor. Not sure if he will be last years Swallow or last years Webster.
Happy enough with Hibberd and Hurn. Like the way they go about it.
Keeping an eye on a few other defenders but geez, she's slim pickins this year.
Thanks for the reply !
Quote from: creeker on January 05, 2015, 07:31:18 PM
I TINKER WAY TO MUCH WITH TEAMS !!!!!
Feel free to comment on this team but it is here more as a reference for me. Early days yet but I will monitor how some of these guys pre seasons go before I lock them in. Will look back on it as the season draws closer.
H Shaw, M Hibberd, S Hurn, B Waters, B Whitecross. S Edwards.
(D Viojo-Rainbow, N Newman.)
G Ablett, S Pendlebury, J Selwood, R Sloane, P Dangerfield, I Heeney, B Boekhorst, A Vandenberg.
(N Freeman, J Steele, K Lambert.)
N Naitanui, M Leuenberger. (M Cox.)
R Gray, B Deledio, D Swan, T Mitchell, M Walters, M Clark.
(J Hogan, C Daniel.)
9/11/10 bye structure. Budget stuffed, $100 bucks left over.
Really nice defence. Midfield is top class. Sloane i'd switch though. JPK...
Rucks are good id say you need cover for them though.
Downgrade walters>belly. Then you can go sloane to fyfe
Quote from: fasttrack13 on January 07, 2015, 01:06:10 PM
Quote from: creeker on January 05, 2015, 07:31:18 PM
I TINKER WAY TO MUCH WITH TEAMS !!!!!
Feel free to comment on this team but it is here more as a reference for me. Early days yet but I will monitor how some of these guys pre seasons go before I lock them in. Will look back on it as the season draws closer.
H Shaw, M Hibberd, S Hurn, B Waters, B Whitecross. S Edwards.
(D Viojo-Rainbow, N Newman.)
G Ablett, S Pendlebury, J Selwood, R Sloane, P Dangerfield, I Heeney, B Boekhorst, A Vandenberg.
(N Freeman, J Steele, K Lambert.)
N Naitanui, M Leuenberger. (M Cox.)
R Gray, B Deledio, D Swan, T Mitchell, M Walters, M Clark.
(J Hogan, C Daniel.)
9/11/10 bye structure. Budget stuffed, $100 bucks left over.
Really nice defence. Midfield is top class. Sloane i'd switch though. JPK...
Rucks are good id say you need cover for them though.
Downgrade walters>belly. Then you can go sloane to fyfe
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Thanks for your comment Fasttrack13.
In two minds about Belly but I guess it is the safer option. Honestly don't think he will score big but very handy for ruck late outs.
Think I have to address the backline a little, there is some risks there.
Working on another team at the moment to get Rocky in and bolster the defence. Will post shortly.
Thanks again mate !
Lycett/Zac Clarke maybe... idk with leuy/krooz potentially need it...
Another team for a reference for later on.
B Smith, M Hibberd, G Birchall, B Waters, B Whitecross, S Edwards.
(E Vickers-Willis, N Newman.)
G Ablett, T Rockliff, S Pendlebury, P Dangerfield, B Deledio, I Heeney, B Boekhorst, A Vandenberg.
(N Freeman, J Steele, K Lambert.)
N Naitanui, M Leuenberger. (M Cox.)
B Goddard, L Franklin, D Martin, D Swan, T Bellchambers, M Clark.
(J Hogan, C Daniel.)
Bye structure. 11/12/7. not ideal ! 4k banked.
Smith and Birchall a little more reliable than Shaw and Hurn, (missing games wise.)
Keep hearing conflicting reports about Whitecross. Some saying he will come back through the two's, others saying he's right to go. Will monitor his pre season.
Mids came down to Rocky and Danger V Selwood and Sloane. Rocky and Danger in at this stage.
Lids named in the guts but will drop into the forwards when rookies moo.
TBC back in at the moment.
Just a note for you creeker. When revising team look at Read for you ruck DPP has more later games than Cox to cover late outs for you.
Like the Structure although Rocky imo will lose cash early.
Quote from: Ringo on January 07, 2015, 04:25:27 PM
Just a note for you creeker. When revising team look at Read for you ruck DPP has more later games than Cox to cover late outs for you.
Like the Structure although Rocky imo will lose cash early.
Thanks Ringo.
Agree about Read but believe it or not, I didn't have enough cash for him with this team. Will fit him in though.
With Rocky, his scores in his last 8 games were. 158, 126, 141, 175, 113, 158, 137, 170.
He averaged 139 after rnd 6 and 147 after round 13.(Thanks to Rowsus for those stats)
Think Rocky will be a pod at the start of the season and for good reason. Top dollars. He will probably lose cash early but if he gets off to a good start he will be the perfect C/VC loophole choice.
Could be a make or break decision to start with Rocky.
Thanks for the feedback Ringo.
Quote from: creeker on January 07, 2015, 04:49:58 PM
Quote from: Ringo on January 07, 2015, 04:25:27 PM
Just a note for you creeker. When revising team look at Read for you ruck DPP has more later games than Cox to cover late outs for you.
Like the Structure although Rocky imo will lose cash early.
Thanks Ringo.
Agree about Read but believe it or not, I didn't have enough cash for him with this team. Will fit him in though.
With Rocky, his scores in his last 8 games were. 158, 126, 141, 175, 113, 158, 137, 170.
He averaged 139 after rnd 6 and 147 after round 13.(Thanks to Rowsus for those stats)
Think Rocky will be a pod at the start of the season and for good reason. Top dollars. He will probably lose cash early but if he gets off to a good start he will be the perfect C/VC loophole choice.
Could be a make or break decision to start with Rocky.
Thanks for the feedback Ringo.
excellent points on benefits of rocky. it is hard to cough up the cash though
Quote from: creeker on January 07, 2015, 03:35:52 PM
Another team for a reference for later on.
B Smith, M Hibberd, G Birchall, B Waters, B Whitecross, S Edwards.
(E Vickers-Willis, N Newman.)
G Ablett, T Rockliff, S Pendlebury, P Dangerfield, B Deledio, I Heeney, B Boekhorst, A Vandenberg.
(N Freeman, J Steele, K Lambert.)
N Naitanui, M Leuenberger. (M Cox.)
B Goddard, L Franklin, D Martin, D Swan, T Bellchambers, M Clark.
(J Hogan, C Daniel.)
Bye structure. 11/12/7. not ideal ! 4k banked.
Smith and Birchall a little more reliable than Shaw and Hurn, (missing games wise.)
Keep hearing conflicting reports about Whitecross. Some saying he will come back through the two's, others saying he's right to go. Will monitor his pre season.
Mids came down to Rocky and Danger V Selwood and Sloane. Rocky and Danger in at this stage.
Lids named in the guts but will drop into the forwards when rookies moo.
TBC back in at the moment.
very good team cant really fault it.
With Lids moves into that forward line you will almost have a forward line keepers :o
great side would love your thoughts on mine.
Ok, last team for awhile guys.
Have been sitting on this team for a few weeks and thought I would share.
B Smith, M Hibberd, G Birchall, S Hurn, B Waters, S Edwards.
( E Vickers-Willis, N Newman.)
G Ablett, S Pendlebury, R Sloane, P Dangerfield, B Deledio, I Heeney, A Vandenberg, N Freeman.
(J Steele, D Cavka, K Lambert.)
N Naitanui, M Leuenberger. ( T Read.)
B Goddard, L Franklin, D Martin, D Swan, M Clark, J Hogan.
(D Menzel, C Daniel.)
Bye structure 9/10/11. 14k to mess around with.
Happy enough with this structure. Fair blend of keepers over all lines with a few pods thrown in.
Lids again named in the guts but will drop into the forward line when rookies mature.
No TBC for ruck cover with this team in which I'm still in two minds about.
Thoughts welcomed.
Your team looks strong and all your premo picks are good but I think you're in two minds for a reason. Ruck cover is absolutely essential this year so try and squeeze TBC in there if you can mate.
Quote from: ben_020285 on January 11, 2015, 11:38:22 AM
Your team looks strong and all your premo picks are good but I think you're in two minds for a reason. Ruck cover is absolutely essential this year so try and squeeze TBC in there if you can mate.
Cheers Ben_020285.
Always good to get feedback from Supercoach royalty. 54th overall in 2014, 26th overall in 2013. You have the runs on the board.
Think my issue with the ruck cover is. Last year I started with Sauce, Sandi, Currie and Thurlow. Thought I needed cover for Sandi so I also started Hale (F4) in the forwards. Hale's scores started with 89, 58, 111, 56, 78, 105, 60, 69, 51, 31, 56, 50.
At this point Stef Martin turned up and I swapped him straight in. Hale's average at this point was 67.8, (doing my head in).
Hale's starting price was 449k. Wanted to go with Parker at 468k but thought ruck cover was more important.
The other issue I have is, TBC is just as injury prone as Lewy, and as a Bomber supporter, I just can't see TBC getting big scores with the new ruck rules. I rate Hale better than TBC.
Still confused but I believe Swan at f4 will score much better than TBC at f4.
Thinking it may be better to allow a few trades in the ruck this year and just hope that Leuenberger has made us 120k before we have to use the trades.
My ruck issues continue.
Thanks for your reply Ben.
BTW. Would enjoy the challenge of being in a league with you at some point. If you happened to have a spare league up your sleeve this year, jump on to FF's ELITE MEMBERS. Could be fun.
Quote from: creeker on January 11, 2015, 08:55:27 PM
Quote from: ben_020285 on January 11, 2015, 11:38:22 AM
Your team looks strong and all your premo picks are good but I think you're in two minds for a reason. Ruck cover is absolutely essential this year so try and squeeze TBC in there if you can mate.
Cheers Ben_020285.
Always good to get feedback from Supercoach royalty. 54th overall in 2014, 26th overall in 2013. You have the runs on the board.
Think my issue with the ruck cover is. Last year I started with Sauce, Sandi, Currie and Thurlow. Thought I needed cover for Sandi so I also started Hale (F4) in the forwards. Hale's scores started with 89, 58, 111, 56, 78, 105, 60, 69, 51, 31, 56, 50.
At this point Stef Martin turned up and I swapped him straight in. Hale's average at this point was 67.8, (doing my head in).
Hale's starting price was 449k. Wanted to go with Parker at 468k but thought ruck cover was more important.
The other issue I have is, TBC is just as injury prone as Lewy, and as a Bomber supporter, I just can't see TBC getting big scores with the new ruck rules. I rate Hale better than TBC.
Still confused but I believe Swan at f4 will score much better than TBC at f4.
Thinking it may be better to allow a few trades in the ruck this year and just hope that Leuenberger has made us 120k before we have to use the trades.
My ruck issues continue.
Thanks for your reply Ben.
BTW. Would enjoy the challenge of being in a league with you at some point. If you happened to have a spare league up your sleeve this year, jump on to FF's ELITE MEMBERS. Could be fun.
Thanks for the kind words mate.
I can completely see where you're coming from and I too wish there were better RUC/FWD options than TBC.
I think it will almost be a 50/50 split of coaches that choose to go with TBC and those that don't. I guess if you don't you need to be prepared to burn through trades if one of your chosen ruckmen go down. If you're ok with that then go for it. Personally I value trades like they're gold.
I guess the only other thing we could pray for is a rookie ruck that is named round 1 that we can slot into R3 but at this stage it looks very unlikely.
Cheers for the invite to the FF Elite league. I am more of a cash league man but if I do have room for a spare league then I'll get on board for sure!
Quote from: ben_020285 on January 11, 2015, 09:52:38 PM
Quote from: creeker on January 11, 2015, 08:55:27 PM
Quote from: ben_020285 on January 11, 2015, 11:38:22 AM
Your team looks strong and all your premo picks are good but I think you're in two minds for a reason. Ruck cover is absolutely essential this year so try and squeeze TBC in there if you can mate.
Cheers Ben_020285.
Always good to get feedback from Supercoach royalty. 54th overall in 2014, 26th overall in 2013. You have the runs on the board.
Think my issue with the ruck cover is. Last year I started with Sauce, Sandi, Currie and Thurlow. Thought I needed cover for Sandi so I also started Hale (F4) in the forwards. Hale's scores started with 89, 58, 111, 56, 78, 105, 60, 69, 51, 31, 56, 50.
At this point Stef Martin turned up and I swapped him straight in. Hale's average at this point was 67.8, (doing my head in).
Hale's starting price was 449k. Wanted to go with Parker at 468k but thought ruck cover was more important.
The other issue I have is, TBC is just as injury prone as Lewy, and as a Bomber supporter, I just can't see TBC getting big scores with the new ruck rules. I rate Hale better than TBC.
Still confused but I believe Swan at f4 will score much better than TBC at f4.
Thinking it may be better to allow a few trades in the ruck this year and just hope that Leuenberger has made us 120k before we have to use the trades.
My ruck issues continue.
Thanks for your reply Ben.
BTW. Would enjoy the challenge of being in a league with you at some point. If you happened to have a spare league up your sleeve this year, jump on to FF's ELITE MEMBERS. Could be fun.
Thanks for the kind words mate.
I can completely see where you're coming from and I too wish there were better RUC/FWD options than TBC.
I think it will almost be a 50/50 split of coaches that choose to go with TBC and those that don't. I guess if you don't you need to be prepared to burn through trades if one of your chosen ruckmen go down. If you're ok with that then go for it. Personally I value trades like they're gold.
I guess the only other thing we could pray for is a rookie ruck that is named round 1 that we can slot into R3 but at this stage it looks very unlikely.
Cheers for the invite to the FF Elite league. I am more of a cash league man but if I do have room for a spare league then I'll get on board for sure!
Just a little more of a follow up with the ruck cover.
Started with Hale, 814 points until I traded him out. Ave 67.8. 449k to 293k = -156k.
If I had of started with Parker, 1305 points to the same stage. Ave 100.4. 468k to 485k = +17k
Total is 491 points and 149k just in one move by being stubborn wanting ruck cover.
While I know this year will be different with only 1 ruck emg. Geez I got burnt last year chasing cover.
That 491 points would of seen me sneak in for a top 10 overall placing.
Oh, "More of a cash league man", ha ha. Can't blame you. You would smash it.
Back to your team ;)
Very strong team although I do think you do need ruck covers especially with Leuy and Nic Nat are somewhat injury prone.
Would love your thoughts on my team.
Quote from: creeker on January 05, 2015, 09:32:10 PM
Quote from: Samm79 on January 05, 2015, 08:57:49 PM
Hello there sir,
You always finish higher than me so take this advice with a grain of salt....
What was white and black, is now brown and orange, averages 18.5 seasons over the past 9, and almost certain to implode at some stage?
I don't like him or the backline in general. While it is a value line, this is a line riddled with players that miss. It screams donuts and trades... A few more players that play 22 would be a recommendation.
Would also apply this to the rucks, I think Minson will improve 10ppg under a new coach and him and Goldy for me are a good compromise between value and durability..
Aside from that, hard to fault sir, may be Goddard in the forward line??
Cheers Samm79.
Question should of been, What was black and white, is now brown and orange, averages 18.5 games over the past 9, (LIKES A PUNT) and almost certain to implode at some stage.
You do make a very good point. Advice taken on board. Have been burnt by Shaw before
Not yet on the Newnes train - will monitor. Not sure if he will be last years Swallow or last years Webster.
Happy enough with Hibberd and Hurn. Like the way they go about it.
Keeping an eye on a few other defenders but geez, she's slim pickins this year.
Thanks for the reply !
You are right regarding my attempted joke... Need to reread my posts!
Like the new team a lot. Am with Ben though on ruck coverage, especially with your rucks. I think it's less important with the Goldstiens and Minsons who really don't miss games, but with guys who have a history of missing I'd be reconsidering my selections or working cover into the forwards...
Quote from: creeker on January 11, 2015, 10:01:47 AM
Ok, last team for awhile guys.
Have been sitting on this team for a few weeks and thought I would share.
B Smith, M Hibberd, G Birchall, S Hurn, B Waters, S Edwards.
( E Vickers-Willis, N Newman.)
G Ablett, S Pendlebury, R Sloane, P Dangerfield, B Deledio, I Heeney, A Vandenberg, N Freeman.
(J Steele, D Cavka, K Lambert.)
N Naitanui, M Leuenberger. ( T Read.)
B Goddard, L Franklin, D Martin, D Swan, M Clark, J Hogan.
(D Menzel, C Daniel.)
Bye structure 9/10/11. 14k to mess around with.
Happy enough with this structure. Fair blend of keepers over all lines with a few pods thrown in.
Lids again named in the guts but will drop into the forward line when rookies mature.
No TBC for ruck cover with this team in which I'm still in two minds about.
Thoughts welcomed.
A great defence there! Nice and safe, runs deep, certainly avoids the huge mid-priced risks that so many are taking.
Not sure about Sloane AND Danger. Would be inclined to go Sloane to Kennedy/Barlow/Ward, think all have greater upside and can go 115+. Don't think Sloane can.
With Naitanui and Leuey, I think you'll certainly need some cover there. You wont get 44 games out of those 2, can guarantee that. You're really banking on Leuey to not get rested until late in the season after he's been traded, but that's not a risk I would take.
Quote from: ben_020285 on January 11, 2015, 09:52:38 PM
Quote from: creeker on January 11, 2015, 08:55:27 PM
Quote from: ben_020285 on January 11, 2015, 11:38:22 AM
Your team looks strong and all your premo picks are good but I think you're in two minds for a reason. Ruck cover is absolutely essential this year so try and squeeze TBC in there if you can mate.
Cheers Ben_020285.
Always good to get feedback from Supercoach royalty. 54th overall in 2014, 26th overall in 2013. You have the runs on the board.
Think my issue with the ruck cover is. Last year I started with Sauce, Sandi, Currie and Thurlow. Thought I needed cover for Sandi so I also started Hale (F4) in the forwards. Hale's scores started with 89, 58, 111, 56, 78, 105, 60, 69, 51, 31, 56, 50.
At this point Stef Martin turned up and I swapped him straight in. Hale's average at this point was 67.8, (doing my head in).
Hale's starting price was 449k. Wanted to go with Parker at 468k but thought ruck cover was more important.
The other issue I have is, TBC is just as injury prone as Lewy, and as a Bomber supporter, I just can't see TBC getting big scores with the new ruck rules. I rate Hale better than TBC.
Still confused but I believe Swan at f4 will score much better than TBC at f4.
Thinking it may be better to allow a few trades in the ruck this year and just hope that Leuenberger has made us 120k before we have to use the trades.
My ruck issues continue.
Thanks for your reply Ben.
BTW. Would enjoy the challenge of being in a league with you at some point. If you happened to have a spare league up your sleeve this year, jump on to FF's ELITE MEMBERS. Could be fun.
Thanks for the kind words mate.
I can completely see where you're coming from and I too wish there were better RUC/FWD options than TBC.
I think it will almost be a 50/50 split of coaches that choose to go with TBC and those that don't. I guess if you don't you need to be prepared to burn through trades if one of your chosen ruckmen go down. If you're ok with that then go for it. Personally I value trades like they're gold.
I guess the only other thing we could pray for is a rookie ruck that is named round 1 that we can slot into R3 but at this stage it looks very unlikely.
I'm currently set up with Lycett as F4 at a cost of over 400k as I don't like TBC as an option.
Lycett played 12 games in his 4th season in 2014, including the last the last 5 of the year/ 9 of the last 11 and will likely be R2 with Natanui. Should Natanui gets injured I'd say he'll be R1. Last 9 scores in 2014 were 104, 89, 92, 117, 68, 98, 45, 95, 108...90.6 average excluding his scores earlier in the year (R4 53, R6 42, R7 23) which reduce that average to 77. 7 of those last 9 scores are great reading for F4 in my opinion who also provides good ruck cover, especially if one of your two rucks is Nic Nat!
A big shout out to Ben_020285, Money Shot, Samm79, H1bb3i2d and Enzedder.
Looks as though I need ruck cover. lol.
Have put together a team with TBC at f5. Don't want him taking up the valuable f4 spot.
Had to go B Smith to Ibbo, Danger to Griff, then Menzel to TBC.
M Hibberd, G Birchall, S Hurn, G Ibbotson, B Waters, E Vickers-Willis.
(D Viojo-Rainbow, N Newman.)
G Ablett, S Pendlebury, R Sloane, B Deledio, R Griffin, J Anderson, I Heeney, N Freeman.
(A Vandenberg, J Steele, K Lambert.)
N Naitanui, M Leuenberger. (T Read.)
B Goddard, L Franklin, D Martin, D Swan, T Bellchambers, M Clark.
(J Hogan, C Daniel.)
Bye structure. 9/11/10. 15k in the kitty.
Not as happy with the structure, but I do now have the ruck cover.
Smith to Ibbo - happy enough with this one, Freo had defence injury's last year and Ibbo was forced to play on talls. Back to his usual role and he should improve his scores.
Danger to Griff - not sure on this one. Griff played with injury last year and wasn't to keen on his coach. A full preseason and Griff could get back to his big scores. Worth a punt.
This team is great now.
Would sit on it till the nab cup.
Would love your thoughts on my new one.
Two teams for future reference,
Team 1.
K Simpson, M Hibberd, G Birchall, S Hurn, B Waters, H Goddard.
(B Maynard, D McKenzie.)
G Ablett, T Rockliff, S Pendlebury, J Selwood, N Van Berlo, S Biggs, I Heeney, B Boekhorst.
(A Vandenberg, N Freeman, N Krakouer.)
N Naitanui, M Leuenberger. (T Read.)
B Deledio, B Goddard, D Martin, D Swan, M Clark, J Hogan.
(J Steele, C Daniel.)
Managed to squeeze the big 4 into the mids - rest of the squad seems pretty vanilla. 32k.
Team 2.
M Hibberd, G Birchall, S Hurn, G Ibbotson, B Waters, B Whitecross.
(B Maynard, D McKenzie.)
G Ablett, S Pendlebury, J Selwood, R Sloane, J Anderson, I Heeney, B Boekhorst, N Freeman.
(A Vandenberg, N Krakouer, K Lambert.)
N Naitanui, M Leuenberger. (T Read.)
B Deledio, B Goddard, D Martin, H Bennell, D Swan, M Clark.
(J Hogan, C Daniel.)
The D6 position worries me as I need back up if no defensive rookies play round 1. If one of the rookies are named in round 1, there is no guarantee that they will be still there by round 3 or 4. Naming Whitecross at D6 gives me some flexability to change it around a little, ( Z Jones.)
Mids a little weaker but can swing Lids or Swanny in and play Hogan off the bench in the forward line.
Thought and ideas welcomed !
Team 1 gets the biscuit here, 5 forward guns probably doesn't work in the favour of the defence
Yeah team 1 looks the goods to me too. I'm in favour of strengthening the defence rather than the forwards with the apparent lack of defence rookies this year.
I like the look of each of your lines with regards to both the structure and your picks.
Nice work, Pete!
Cheers FT and Ben.
Agree about team 1, however starting to get cold feet about Rocky. He is a out and out gun but is sure to lose some value early.
I read where Rowsus said if Rocky scored 125 points every week to round 12, his value would drop from 734k to 627k. His B/E would still be 134.
Thinking Rocky to Sloane then upgrading the D6.
Still early days, plenty of time to get things right.
Been awhile since I've posted a team.
Just adding this one for reference for later on.
Thoughts welcomed.
S Burgoyne, J Kelly, J Newnes, H Lumumba, C Pearce, J Hamling.
(N Brown, K McIntosh.)
G Ablett, S Pendlebury, J Selwood, P Dangerfield, D Swan, J Steven, J Anderson, N Freeman.
(I Heeney, A Vandenberg, K Lambert.)
N Naitanui, M Leuenberger. (R O'Brien.)
J Bartel, B Goddard, D Martin, C Salem, M Clark, J Hogan.
(J Steele, C Daniel.)
12.7k remaining.
Depending on the outcome of Essendon's saga.
Burgoyne will become Hibberd.
Leuenberger will become TBC.
Goddard will Robbie Gray.
Just personal do not like Swan in mids but your choice. Think you would be better starting Swan forwards and getting another Mid.
Also concerned slightly with both rucks as if they miss a week or two which is a distinct possibility you only have O'brien has cover and hopefully he will play but a lot resting on that.
Make Leuey a premo. No chance at all I would start him without forward cover. Better just to upgrade him to a premo.
Personally I would downgrade Steven to a rookie to upgrade Leuey to a premo.
Cannot say that I am a fan of Burgoyne, probably goes at 85 at best for the season IMO- is this good enough for D1?
Like Ringo not a big fan of starting Swan in the mids but still a pretty decent platform to work with.