Ive noticed the last few years players prices that score well go up the next year from what they finished on price wise the year before i'm assuming this is based on average.Rockliff maybe unaffordable next year if he is $711k atm.
Price is purely determined by average for the year as you assumed, not by finishing price (some exceptions like discounts for not many games played etc). This does not mean he might be too expensive, but his finishing price for the year is boosted by the fact he has had a great run of form at the right time and is on an upward swing.
For example: Patrick Dangerfield''s price dropped from 2012 to 2013 even thou he had his best average in 2012. This is because he had a good run at the end of his season to boost his finishing price.
Don't get me wrong, Rocky will be very expensive next year because of a great average but it still may be less than his finishing price like the Dangerfield''s example above.
Quote from: Dolan on August 25, 2014, 03:34:31 AM
Price is purely determined by average for the year as you assumed, not by finishing price (some exceptions like discounts for not many games played etc). This does not mean he might be too expensive, but his finishing price for the year is boosted by the fact he has had a great run of form at the right time and is on an upward swing.
For example: Patrick Dangerfield''s price dropped from 2012 to 2013 even thou he had his best average in 2012. This is because he had a good run at the end of his season to boost his finishing price.
That doesn't make sense - if Danger's highest average was in 2012 and his 2013 starting price is determined purely by average, then how did his price go down from 2012 to 2013? And again if it's purely on average then an upward swing at the end means nothing, if he had started the year with these scores and then gotten worse, but his average stays the same, then his price should be identical...
unless he gets 200 odd he's going to be cheaper than the mandatory ablett
Nah price is based purely on average.
You must've been looking at someone with a discount or something.
So Rocky will be priced at 132 average which is about 720k.
Gazza will be about 740k i think.
So next year's midfield will look something like: GAJ, Rockliff, Pendlebury, rookie, rookie, rookie, rookie, rookie, rookie, rookie etc?
I'm seriously considering not starting with Gazz, keeping money in the bank, getting a few underpriced premos and doing an early upgrade to the little master when his price drops (and it will).
#thatshouldgetthediscussiongoing
Quote from: nostradamus on August 25, 2014, 09:19:21 AM
I'm seriously considering not starting with Gazz, keeping money in the bank, getting a few underpriced premos and doing an early upgrade to the little master when his price drops (and it will).
#thatshouldgetthediscussiongoing
that worked well for me this year lol i ended up paying 750k for him :-X :'(
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 25, 2014, 09:21:10 AM
Quote from: nostradamus on August 25, 2014, 09:19:21 AM
I'm seriously considering not starting with Gazz, keeping money in the bank, getting a few underpriced premos and doing an early upgrade to the little master when his price drops (and it will).
#thatshouldgetthediscussiongoing
that worked well for me this year lol i ended up paying 750k for him :-X :'(
Yeah I'd be more inclined to try that strategy with rocky, Rocky has taken it to a new level this year but still his first season of going so big. Gazza has backed it up year on year, if you want to bank on one of them dropping much I would pick Rocky. Still will be very hard not to start both...
Quote from: ronl on August 25, 2014, 09:03:33 AM
So next year's midfield will look something like: GAJ, Rockliff, Pendlebury, rookie, rookie, rookie, rookie, rookie, rookie, rookie etc?
Lol possibly but you could always skimp in DEF..not paying top dollar for defenders..
Quote from: GCSkiwi on August 25, 2014, 07:18:32 AM
Quote from: Dolan on August 25, 2014, 03:34:31 AM
Price is purely determined by average for the year as you assumed, not by finishing price (some exceptions like discounts for not many games played etc). This does not mean he might be too expensive, but his finishing price for the year is boosted by the fact he has had a great run of form at the right time and is on an upward swing.
For example: Patrick Dangerfield''s price dropped from 2012 to 2013 even thou he had his best average in 2012. This is because he had a good run at the end of his season to boost his finishing price.
That doesn't make sense - if Danger's highest average was in 2012 and his 2013 starting price is determined purely by average, then how did his price go down from 2012 to 2013? And again if it's purely on average then an upward swing at the end means nothing, if he had started the year with these scores and then gotten worse, but his average stays the same, then his price should be identical...
I think he's saying Danger's price at the end of 2012 was boosted by some big scores towards the end, and at the start of 2013 he was at a cheaper price because his season avg was less than what he averaged in the last few weeks/months of 2012
You get what you pay for.
Quote from: GoLions16 on August 25, 2014, 03:12:57 PM
Quote from: GCSkiwi on August 25, 2014, 07:18:32 AM
Quote from: Dolan on August 25, 2014, 03:34:31 AM
Price is purely determined by average for the year as you assumed, not by finishing price (some exceptions like discounts for not many games played etc). This does not mean he might be too expensive, but his finishing price for the year is boosted by the fact he has had a great run of form at the right time and is on an upward swing.
For example: Patrick Dangerfield''s price dropped from 2012 to 2013 even thou he had his best average in 2012. This is because he had a good run at the end of his season to boost his finishing price.
That doesn't make sense - if Danger's highest average was in 2012 and his 2013 starting price is determined purely by average, then how did his price go down from 2012 to 2013? And again if it's purely on average then an upward swing at the end means nothing, if he had started the year with these scores and then gotten worse, but his average stays the same, then his price should be identical...
I think he's saying Danger's price at the end of 2012 was boosted by some big scores towards the end, and at the start of 2013 he was at a cheaper price because his season avg was less than what he averaged in the last few weeks/months of 2012
Ah. Ok, yes that makes sense. Apologies Dolan!
Quote from: GoLions16 on August 25, 2014, 03:12:57 PM
Quote from: GCSkiwi on August 25, 2014, 07:18:32 AM
Quote from: Dolan on August 25, 2014, 03:34:31 AM
Price is purely determined by average for the year as you assumed, not by finishing price (some exceptions like discounts for not many games played etc). This does not mean he might be too expensive, but his finishing price for the year is boosted by the fact he has had a great run of form at the right time and is on an upward swing.
For example: Patrick Dangerfield''s price dropped from 2012 to 2013 even thou he had his best average in 2012. This is because he had a good run at the end of his season to boost his finishing price.
That doesn't make sense - if Danger's highest average was in 2012 and his 2013 starting price is determined purely by average, then how did his price go down from 2012 to 2013? And again if it's purely on average then an upward swing at the end means nothing, if he had started the year with these scores and then gotten worse, but his average stays the same, then his price should be identical...
I think he's saying Danger's price at the end of 2012 was boosted by some big scores towards the end, and at the start of 2013 he was at a cheaper price because his season avg was less than what he averaged in the last few weeks/months of 2012
spot on
Quote from: ///////////////////////// on August 25, 2014, 03:26:40 PM
Ablett - $737,000
Rockliff - $711,900
Pendlebury - $680,900
$2,129,800 for the trio.
sheesh
Rocky is a lock in my team. Pendles too. The rest will be depending on price.
Quote from: Footyrulz on August 25, 2014, 07:52:43 AM
Nah price is based purely on average.
You must've been looking at someone with a discount or something.
So Rocky will be priced at 132 average which is about 720k.
Gazza will be about 740k i think.
How do you work this out for each player?
Quote from: rfc4eva on August 26, 2014, 02:11:48 AM
Quote from: Footyrulz on August 25, 2014, 07:52:43 AM
Nah price is based purely on average.
You must've been looking at someone with a discount or something.
So Rocky will be priced at 132 average which is about 720k.
Gazza will be about 740k i think.
How do you work this out for each player?
Average x magic number
He is guessing the number for now but it usually doesn't fluctuate sooo much
pendles looks underpriced 8)
wont be starting Rocky next year
Don't know if the pig will be as effective with Rich and Redden in there. Or it could be even better and slutting it up even more
imagine him getting sluttier!!
it would involve lots of dirty work, plenty of balls under alot of bodies dishing it out
Quote from: Spite on August 26, 2014, 01:55:56 PM
Quote from: rfc4eva on August 26, 2014, 02:11:48 AM
Quote from: Footyrulz on August 25, 2014, 07:52:43 AM
Nah price is based purely on average.
You must've been looking at someone with a discount or something.
So Rocky will be priced at 132 average which is about 720k.
Gazza will be about 740k i think.
How do you work this out for each player?
Average x magic number
He is guessing the number for now but it usually doesn't fluctuate sooo much
the magic number is usually roughly:
average X 5000 + 10%
so ill use bartel as an example who is averaging exactly 100
average(100) X 5000= $500,000
+ 10% = $550,000
the only time this number has been a fair way off of this was when we had larger squads a few years ago
Quote from: miffysp on August 27, 2014, 11:39:58 AM
Quote from: Spite on August 26, 2014, 01:55:56 PM
Quote from: rfc4eva on August 26, 2014, 02:11:48 AM
Quote from: Footyrulz on August 25, 2014, 07:52:43 AM
Nah price is based purely on average.
You must've been looking at someone with a discount or something.
So Rocky will be priced at 132 average which is about 720k.
Gazza will be about 740k i think.
How do you work this out for each player?
Average x magic number
He is guessing the number for now but it usually doesn't fluctuate sooo much
the magic number is usually roughly:
average X 5000 + 10%
so ill use bartel as an example who is averaging exactly 100
average(100) X 5000= $500,000
+ 10% = $550,000
the only time this number has been a fair way off of this was when we had larger squads a few years ago
Isn't it usually a $ per point average thing? Like $5400/point looks about right for starting prices this year (not that I checked many people but the guys in my team... Plus that works out as a BE of around 21/22 for a rookie priced at 117300). But this number changes a little every year...
Quote from: GCSkiwi on August 27, 2014, 01:58:36 PM
Quote from: miffysp on August 27, 2014, 11:39:58 AM
Quote from: Spite on August 26, 2014, 01:55:56 PM
Quote from: rfc4eva on August 26, 2014, 02:11:48 AM
Quote from: Footyrulz on August 25, 2014, 07:52:43 AM
Nah price is based purely on average.
You must've been looking at someone with a discount or something.
So Rocky will be priced at 132 average which is about 720k.
Gazza will be about 740k i think.
How do you work this out for each player?
Average x magic number
He is guessing the number for now but it usually doesn't fluctuate sooo much
the magic number is usually roughly:
average X 5000 + 10%
so ill use bartel as an example who is averaging exactly 100
average(100) X 5000= $500,000
+ 10% = $550,000
the only time this number has been a fair way off of this was when we had larger squads a few years ago
Isn't it usually a $ per point average thing? Like $5400/point looks about right for starting prices this year (not that I checked many people but the guys in my team... Plus that works out as a BE of around 21/22 for a rookie priced at 117300). But this number changes a little every year...
Yeah this is similar 2 what I wrote. Yet im pretty sure the number is closer to 5500.
I wrote the times 5000 add 10% as a players breakeven is their price