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Poll
Question: Who will win?
Option 1: Lions votes: 4
Option 2: Dockers votes: 4
Option 3: Draw votes: 2
Title: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: Ringo on August 21, 2014, 04:38:11 PM
Danger game for the dockers if they wish to remain in Top 4. Lions will be up for their final home game after last weeks performance. :Boonj" McGraths final game and we know what he did in his last milestone game, 200th against Cats last year, Dockers without Barlow and Fyfe may struggle. Lions will want another Top 8 teams saclp to keep momentum going.
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: Ricochet on August 21, 2014, 04:49:52 PM
Can't see us dropping this with so much on the line
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: Nige on August 21, 2014, 04:51:53 PM
I reckon the Lions will have a shot here, Ash to kick 10.  ;)
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: GoLions on August 22, 2014, 12:53:03 AM
152% not biased here, I shower you not, Lions will win. No Barlow, no Fyfe, Fremantle you say? More like, Losemantle, am I right?

Lions by 42 points.
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: nrich102 on August 22, 2014, 07:16:57 AM
Quote from: GoLions16 on August 22, 2014, 12:53:03 AM
152% not biased here, I shower you not, Lions will win. No Barlow, no Fyfe, Fremantle you say? More like, Losemantle, am I right?

Lions by 42 points.
I like your thinking.
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 22, 2014, 08:26:03 AM
i do give Lions a chance but think Freo will win
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: nas on August 22, 2014, 09:06:09 AM
Gone Lions myself
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: Ringo on August 22, 2014, 09:09:13 AM
If I was a betting man I would be snapping up the $4.00 odds on Brisbane atm.

Will more than likely be a damp surface as well.
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: Ricochet on August 22, 2014, 09:39:21 AM
Quote from: GoLions16 on August 22, 2014, 12:53:03 AM
152% not biased here, I shower you not, Lions will win. No Barlow, no Fyfe, Fremantle you say? More like, Losemantle, am I right?

Lions by 42 points.
haha we'll see
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: Jroo on August 22, 2014, 10:57:12 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 22, 2014, 08:26:03 AM
i do give Lions a chance but think Freo will win
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: strikes91 on August 22, 2014, 05:01:22 PM
Last time I though we were a chance at the gabba we lost by 105

Freo by 28
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: Ricochet on August 22, 2014, 05:02:37 PM
Freo have taken a squad of 24 over. Duffy has been dropped apparently.
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: shaker on August 22, 2014, 06:02:09 PM
There 2 best mids out chance of losing 4th spot wow looking forward to this game , Freo under real pressure and the Lions looking like real killers , maybe the Lions just.
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: strikes91 on August 24, 2014, 11:07:51 AM
Crowley may be a late out apparently
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: Jroo on August 24, 2014, 11:59:37 AM
No ZOB  :'(
@AFL: Final teams #AFLLionsFreo - No changes. Subs: Sam Mayes (@brisbanelions) and Garrick Ibbotson (@Fremantle_FC)
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: Big Mac on August 24, 2014, 12:03:18 PM
Rocky I need you to score 300 pls
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 24, 2014, 12:37:35 PM
one of the betting pages on facebook is suggesting Rocky under 33 touches

made me lol
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: shaker on August 24, 2014, 01:23:07 PM
Pav out what is going on this week  :o
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: GoLions on August 24, 2014, 01:40:35 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 24, 2014, 12:37:35 PM
one of the betting pages on facebook is suggesting Rocky under 33 touches

made me lol
Basically a third of the way there already hahaha
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 24, 2014, 01:42:54 PM
Quote from: GoLions16 on August 24, 2014, 01:40:35 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 24, 2014, 12:37:35 PM
one of the betting pages on facebook is suggesting Rocky under 33 touches

made me lol
Basically a third of the way there already hahaha

Just needs to play off HB lol
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 24, 2014, 01:53:23 PM
QUARTER TIME SCORES - Brisbane (0.4.4) v Fremantle (4.8.32)

BRISBANE

38 Tom Rockliff 48
2 Ryan Harwood 35
8 Rohan Bewick 32
12 Stefan Martin 31
4 James Aish 21
24 Joel Patfull 21
15 Dayne Zorko 20
42 Justin Clarke 18
28 Lewis Taylor 18
11 Pearce Hanley 18
25 Daniel McStay 16
5 Jack Crisp 14
21 Daniel Merrett 12
9 Ashley McGrath 9
6 Josh Green 9
27 Darcy Gardiner 7
7 Jed Adcock 6
17 Claye Beams 2
33 Michael Close 2
36 Matt Maguire 1
34 Jonathan Freeman 0
32 Sam Mayes 0

FREMANTLE

16 David Mundy 45
1 Hayden Ballantyne 45
32 Stephen Hill 36
10 Michael Walters 35
6 Danyle Pearce 32
33 Cameron Sutcliffe 28
13 Tendai Mzungu 28
23 Chris Mayne 27
17 Hayden Crozier 27
30 Zac Clarke 26
20 Matt Taberner 24
27 Lachie Neale 23
31 Aaron Sandilands 20
37 Michael Johnson 19
8 Nick Suban 15
15 Ryan Crowley 15
34 Lee Spurr 12
36 Alex Silvagni 11
9 Matt de Boer 11
41 Paul Duffield 3
3 Zac Dawson 2
5 Garrick Ibbotson 0
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: Nige on August 24, 2014, 01:55:01 PM
Rocky, just remember that you're compensating for Pav. The Kewlest Cats need you to get 500, get going pls.
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: Samsturmfels on August 24, 2014, 01:57:12 PM
Rockliff please get 200
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: shaker on August 24, 2014, 01:57:40 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 24, 2014, 01:55:01 PM
Rocky, just remember that you're compensating for Pav. The Kewlest Cats need you to get 500, get going pls.

Ha ha ha 500
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: Jroo on August 24, 2014, 02:00:00 PM
Mundy and Balla dominating, clearly the two best players on the field.
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: Jroo on August 24, 2014, 02:08:14 PM
Matty Taberner is having some game.
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: nrich102 on August 24, 2014, 02:17:22 PM
These umpires suck.
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: nrich102 on August 24, 2014, 02:25:55 PM




<----------------------  8) Gun  8)
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 24, 2014, 02:28:24 PM
Half Time

Brisbane 2.5 17
Fremantle 9.10 64

Brisbane

38 Tom Rockliff 89
8 Rohan Bewick 63
2 Ryan Harwood 57
12 Stefan Martin 57
15 Dayne Zorko 53
4 James Aish 48
28 Lewis Taylor 48
11 Pearce Hanley 40
5 Jack Crisp 36
24 Joel Patfull 36
27 Darcy Gardiner 34
25 Daniel McStay 33
42 Justin Clarke 30
7 Jed Adcock 27
9 Ashley McGrath 16
6 Josh Green 16
21 Daniel Merrett 13
34 Jonathan Freeman 13
36 Matt Maguire 6
33 Michael Close 4
17 Claye Beams 3
32 Sam Mayes 0

Fremantle

20 Matt Taberner 65
1 Hayden Ballantyne 62
10 Michael Walters 62
8 Nick Suban 61
32 Stephen Hill 59
16 David Mundy 58
23 Chris Mayne 57
30 Zac Clarke 56
33 Cameron Sutcliffe 54
27 Lachie Neale 48
13 Tendai Mzungu 48
6 Danyle Pearce 45
17 Hayden Crozier 44
31 Aaron Sandilands 39
9 Matt de Boer 35
37 Michael Johnson 28
34 Lee Spurr 26
36 Alex Silvagni 25
15 Ryan Crowley 20
41 Paul Duffield 19
3 Zac Dawson 6
5 Garrick Ibbotson 0
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: GoLions on August 24, 2014, 02:29:46 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 24, 2014, 02:00:00 PM
Mundy and Balla dominating, clearly the two best players on the field.
Don't make me laugh.
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: Jroo on August 24, 2014, 02:33:07 PM
Quote from: GoLions16 on August 24, 2014, 02:29:46 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 24, 2014, 02:00:00 PM
Mundy and Balla dominating, clearly the two best players on the field.
Don't make me laugh.
This was posted just after quarter time  ::)
I think Rocky would be lucky to sneak in one vote at this stage.
But keep going son, I've got you captain  8)
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: GoLions on August 24, 2014, 02:37:50 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 24, 2014, 02:33:07 PM
Quote from: GoLions16 on August 24, 2014, 02:29:46 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 24, 2014, 02:00:00 PM
Mundy and Balla dominating, clearly the two best players on the field.
Don't make me laugh.
This was posted just after quarter time  ::)
I think Rocky would be lucky to sneak in one vote at this stage.
But keep going son, I've got you captain  8)
At this point, Rocky/Balla/Taberner are probably top 3 IMO, in any order due to Freo dominating
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 24, 2014, 02:37:54 PM
Sick of seeing the commercial about the Lions comeback vs Cats
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: Jroo on August 24, 2014, 02:40:28 PM
Quote from: GoLions16 on August 24, 2014, 02:37:50 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 24, 2014, 02:33:07 PM
Quote from: GoLions16 on August 24, 2014, 02:29:46 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 24, 2014, 02:00:00 PM
Mundy and Balla dominating, clearly the two best players on the field.
Don't make me laugh.
This was posted just after quarter time  ::)
I think Rocky would be lucky to sneak in one vote at this stage.
But keep going son, I've got you captain  8)
At this point, Rocky/Balla/Taberner are probably top 3 IMO, in any order due to Freo dominating
Yeah chuck in Mundy too, was massive in the first quarter.
Rocky has been good (26 disposals in a half is crazy), but most have been handballs and hasn't been damaging.
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: shaker on August 24, 2014, 02:41:43 PM
Take my hat off to Martin thought he might struggle against Sandi and Clarke but he just keeps delivering  :)
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: GoLions on August 24, 2014, 02:45:06 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 24, 2014, 02:40:28 PM
Quote from: GoLions16 on August 24, 2014, 02:37:50 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 24, 2014, 02:33:07 PM
Quote from: GoLions16 on August 24, 2014, 02:29:46 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 24, 2014, 02:00:00 PM
Mundy and Balla dominating, clearly the two best players on the field.
Don't make me laugh.
This was posted just after quarter time  ::)
I think Rocky would be lucky to sneak in one vote at this stage.
But keep going son, I've got you captain  8)
At this point, Rocky/Balla/Taberner are probably top 3 IMO, in any order due to Freo dominating
Yeah chuck in Mundy too, was massive in the first quarter.
Rocky has been good (26 disposals in a half is crazy), but most have been handballs and hasn't been damaging.
Yeah I'd definitely have Mundy top 5, was quiet in the 2nd quarter though
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: Jroo on August 24, 2014, 02:45:58 PM
Quote from: shaker on August 24, 2014, 02:41:43 PM
Take my hat off to Martin thought he might struggle against Sandi and Clarke but he just keeps delivering  :)
He hasn't had a bad game all year, 89 is his lowest score. Quite incredible.
Trading Impey to him and making cash was pretty good  8)
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: nrich102 on August 24, 2014, 02:49:37 PM
Really is time for McGrath to retire...
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 24, 2014, 02:51:24 PM
Reckon they will sub Sandi off
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: GoLions on August 24, 2014, 02:52:30 PM
Close (my cover for Boomer in AF) subbed off, Mayes on
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: Nige on August 24, 2014, 03:08:48 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 24, 2014, 02:51:24 PM
Reckon they will sub Sandi off
Yes please.
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: GoLions on August 24, 2014, 03:13:05 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 24, 2014, 03:08:48 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 24, 2014, 02:51:24 PM
Reckon they will sub Sandi off
Yes please.
Spurr subbed.
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: LF on August 24, 2014, 03:15:54 PM
PLAYERSUPERCOACH
38   Tom Rockliff   116
8   Rohan Bewick   99
12   Stefan Martin   93
15   Dayne Zorko   87
2   Ryan Harwood   83
28   Lewis Taylor   67
4   James Aish   66
5   Jack Crisp   59
24   Joel Patfull   51
11   Pearce Hanley   49
27   Darcy Gardiner   47
42   Justin Clarke   41
25   Daniel McStay   40
7   Jed Adcock   40
6   Josh Green   36
21   Daniel Merrett   24
34   Jonathan Freeman   23
9   Ashley McGrath   22
17   Claye Beams   17
36   Matt Maguire   16
32   Sam Mayes   13
33   Michael Close   2

16   David Mundy   89
1   Hayden Ballantyne   88
20   Matt Taberner   88
32   Stephen Hill   85
10   Michael Walters   84
13   Tendai Mzungu   76
27   Lachie Neale   75
23   Chris Mayne   74
8   Nick Suban   74
30   Zac Clarke   67
33   Cameron Sutcliffe   66
6   Danyle Pearce   66
9   Matt de Boer   65
17   Hayden Crozier   63
31   Aaron Sandilands   60
34   Lee Spurr   54
37   Michael Johnson   41
41   Paul Duffield   40
15   Ryan Crowley   36
36   Alex Silvagni   32
3   Zac Dawson   28
5   Garrick Ibbotson   13
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: GoLions on August 24, 2014, 03:17:26 PM
Bewick been great yet again, can't believe how much he's improved over the last year
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 24, 2014, 03:29:37 PM
Rocky should get 150 from here :)
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: Jroo on August 24, 2014, 03:31:32 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 24, 2014, 03:29:37 PM
Rocky should get 150 from here :)
Already there, get to 170  ;)
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: shaker on August 24, 2014, 03:33:34 PM
Sandi looking a bit average  :-\
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: Rusty00 on August 24, 2014, 03:37:47 PM
Not sure why I spent so much time deciding on a VC
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: LF on August 24, 2014, 03:49:22 PM
38   Tom Rockliff   168
15   Dayne Zorko   120
12   Stefan Martin   119
8   Rohan Bewick   115
2   Ryan Harwood   105
4   James Aish   89
28   Lewis Taylor   82
11   Pearce Hanley   76
5   Jack Crisp   73
7   Jed Adcock   68
24   Joel Patfull   67
27   Darcy Gardiner   61
6   Josh Green   49
42   Justin Clarke   47
25   Daniel McStay   46
17   Claye Beams   42
9   Ashley McGrath   39
21   Daniel Merrett   36
32   Sam Mayes   33
36   Matt Maguire   30
34   Jonathan Freeman   25
33   Michael Close   3

32   Stephen Hill   118
16   David Mundy   109
10   Michael Walters   107
23   Chris Mayne   105
1   Hayden Ballantyne   104
20   Matt Taberner   102
13   Tendai Mzungu   102
27   Lachie Neale   96
9   Matt de Boer   95
6   Danyle Pearce   91
8   Nick Suban   90
17   Hayden Crozier   85
31   Aaron Sandilands   84
30   Zac Clarke   80
33   Cameron Sutcliffe   77
37   Michael Johnson   60
41   Paul Duffield   60
34   Lee Spurr   56
36   Alex Silvagni   53
15   Ryan Crowley   48
3   Zac Dawson   32
5   Garrick Ibbotson   26
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: shaker on August 24, 2014, 03:55:00 PM
Wow Rocky had him since round 1 and still amazes me even if Gaz played the last part of the year Rocky would be challenging for the  best this year heading toward GOAT status  :-*
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: GoLions on August 24, 2014, 03:59:43 PM
Ok I don't care what the score was, Rocky was BOG. Probably Hill and Mundy for the 2 and 1, maybe Mundy just gets the 2
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: Ringo on August 24, 2014, 05:44:54 PM
Back from the game

hard to believe the difference in Lions from last week to this week.  Credit due to Freo for the pressure they applied. Whereas last week a lot of the handballs found players in space this week majority of the hand balls were to players under pressure.

Couple of wrestles may be looked at to fill the coffers.

One thing that really come to the fore is that the goal reviews are not accurate we have now seen two occassions this round where the ball was called touched but was clearly over the line on both.  If they are not going to get it right do away with the goal review.  In lions case today it was clearly over the line before it was touched and was clear to naked eye.

Umpiring was crap but to be fair went both ways but the difference being where they were played. Hands in the back and holding the ball seems to have disappeared. How on earth can a player being held do a 360 degree and still not be called is beyond me.

From the Dockers Michael Walters is back to form and will assist in your finals campaign. Crowley was his usual pest and kept Hanley quiet. Ballantayne never ceases to amaze me always seems to find space in the forward 50.

From the Lions overuse of handball was the downfall and there were some 8 of freos goals attributed to handovers. Johnno Freeman continues to gain confidence and 2 great marks he hauled down. Claye Beams finally showed some form in the last quarter and hopefully continues.  Mayes as sub surprised but obviously someone had to give way for Ash's final game so he was not sub.

Question must be asked with tongue in cheek were we over confident after last week or after the Blues big loss where we protecting our draft pick as they are also looking for a tall?

Looking forward to an improved performance against the cats next week.
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: strikes91 on August 24, 2014, 06:29:39 PM
Rocky 79% game time. Imagine another 10 on that. could of been another 190
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: nrich102 on August 24, 2014, 08:24:53 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/video/2014-08-24/freeman-flies-and-finishes (http://www.afl.com.au/video/2014-08-24/freeman-flies-and-finishes)

This is why big Jono is my 3rd favorite player.
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on August 24, 2014, 09:22:36 PM
Quote from: strikes91 on August 24, 2014, 06:29:39 PM
Rocky 79% game time. Imagine another 10 on that. could of been another 190

he averages 80% game time though
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: strikes91 on August 24, 2014, 09:34:22 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on August 24, 2014, 09:22:36 PM
Quote from: strikes91 on August 24, 2014, 06:29:39 PM
Rocky 79% game time. Imagine another 10 on that. could of been another 190

he averages 80% game time though

good on him.
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: Jroo on August 24, 2014, 09:34:47 PM
Another 45 disposals for Rocky.
But this stat is remarkable,
@ScottyBarby: Rockliff #1 for disposals this week (45), #102 for metres gained. This amuses me greatly.

Wonder if he'll get votes.
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: strikes91 on August 24, 2014, 09:36:11 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on August 24, 2014, 09:22:36 PM
Quote from: strikes91 on August 24, 2014, 06:29:39 PM
Rocky 79% game time. Imagine another 10 on that. could of been another 190

he averages 80% game time though

84.1% actually.
Title: Re: Round 22 - Lions v Dockers - Sunday 24th August - Gabba
Post by: Ricochet on August 25, 2014, 10:17:59 AM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 24, 2014, 09:34:47 PM
Another 45 disposals for Rocky.
But this stat is remarkable,
@ScottyBarby: Rockliff #1 for disposals this week (45), #102 for metres gained. This amuses me greatly.

Wonder if he'll get votes.
Which is why most will tag Hanley over him and why he's such a good fantasy pickup. Having an unreal year