Poll
Question:
Can He beat Swans season high average 133
Option 1: Yes
votes: 30
Option 2: No
votes: 11
Well done Rocky, oink oink.
Don't kill the celebrations with an under 100 score this weekend
Best thing about Rocky now is that those that dont have him probably cant get him at 666k
Im excited ive got him, lock in Rocky for Captain for the year!
I've had him since day one at 558k or whatever he was and I got absolutely slammed for it on here. I can't wait til an end of season gloat thread if he keeps this up... ::)
Quote from: HBTD22 on July 29, 2014, 08:57:42 AM
I've had him since day one at 558k or whatever he was and I got absolutely slammed for it on here. I can't wait til an end of season gloat thread if he keeps this up... ::)
really? that's hard to believe he was very popular on fanfooty in the pre season
Adelaide, Geelong, Collingwood are pretty miserly
and then you've got the likes of a potential Crowley tag in there too
if he belts out another 160+ against Freo, and does similarly this weekend vs Dees (who are no pushovers either) then I don't think he will beat Swan's record
He's going to have to average 145.8 across the last 5 games to beat 133.
Remaining Fixture
Team (highest ever score): ave since 2011
Melbourne (134): 125.6
Adelaide (138): 98.6
Collingwood (123): 98 - hasn't played the pies since 2012 though
Freo (172): 110.5
Geelong (140): 115.5
So even if he hits his highest ever scores against these teams he still won't quite make it unfortunately
Quote from: Ricochet on July 29, 2014, 10:07:48 AM
He's going to have to average 145.8 across the last 5 games to beat 133.
Remaining Fixture
Team (highest ever score): ave since 2011
Melbourne (163): 130
Adelaide (132): 111
Collingwood (119): 102 - hasn't played the pies since 2012 though
Freo (158): 110
Geelong (140): 115
So even if he hits his highest ever scores against these teams he still won't quite make it unfortunately
not that it matters, but that's probably SC scores, given that Rocky hit 172 against Freo earlier this season
Quote from: pommyadam on July 29, 2014, 11:25:31 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 29, 2014, 10:07:48 AM
He's going to have to average 145.8 across the last 5 games to beat 133.
Remaining Fixture
Team (highest ever score): ave since 2011
Melbourne (163): 130
Adelaide (132): 111
Collingwood (119): 102 - hasn't played the pies since 2012 though
Freo (158): 110
Geelong (140): 115
So even if he hits his highest ever scores against these teams he still won't quite make it unfortunately
not that it matters, but that's probably SC scores, given that Rocky hit 172 against Freo earlier this season
Yeh they are, my bad. I'll fix it up
Ive owned him in an Ultimate Footy Dynasty League for 4 years now, what is his ceiling... ???
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 29, 2014, 09:00:59 AM
Quote from: HBTD22 on July 29, 2014, 08:57:42 AM
I've had him since day one at 558k or whatever he was and I got absolutely slammed for it on here. I can't wait til an end of season gloat thread if he keeps this up... ::)
really? that's hard to believe he was very popular on fanfooty in the pre season
You'll see my friend, you'll see.
Quote from: Ricochet on July 29, 2014, 10:07:48 AM
He's going to have to average 145.8 across the last 5 games to beat 133.
Remaining Fixture
Team (highest ever score): ave since 2011
Melbourne (134): 125.6
Adelaide (138): 98.6
Collingwood (123): 98 - hasn't played the pies since 2012 though
Freo (172): 110.5
Geelong (140): 115.5
So even if he hits his highest ever scores against these teams he still won't quite make it unfortunately
What if he belts out 180s? :P
Quote from: GoLions16 on August 10, 2014, 09:17:54 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 29, 2014, 10:07:48 AM
He's going to have to average 145.8 across the last 5 games to beat 133.
Remaining Fixture
Team (highest ever score): ave since 2011
Melbourne (134): 125.6
Adelaide (138): 98.6
Collingwood (123): 98 - hasn't played the pies since 2012 though
Freo (172): 110.5
Geelong (140): 115.5
So even if he hits his highest ever scores against these teams he still won't quite make it unfortunately
What if he belts out 180s? :P
haha that'll do it
Is he the first dream teamer/afl fantasy commodity to exceed the 700k price tag? $707,203 atm :o
The great man, Maccafer should go to hanley this week so another 180 coming up
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on August 11, 2014, 04:50:18 PM
Is he the first dream teamer/afl fantasy commodity to exceed the 700k price tag? $707,203 atm :o
Has to be I'm sure. Stevie J, Swan and Gablett would be the only ones to come close.
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 29, 2014, 09:00:59 AM
Quote from: HBTD22 on July 29, 2014, 08:57:42 AM
I've had him since day one at 558k or whatever he was and I got absolutely slammed for it on here. I can't wait til an end of season gloat thread if he keeps this up... ::)
really? that's hard to believe he was very popular on fanfooty in the pre season
+1 (agree with Kilbluff here)
I've started him since 2012 & traded him in as a POD when he returned from injury in 2011 (1st game back & overall his 2nd best season & was extremely unique)/ plus downgraded him in 2010. Everyone was promoting him in the fanfooty forums this season... Those who didn't were inquiring as to why... Literally no one had any disparaging comments about him at all...
A lot of people started him this season (including myself) & many people in the past have been long subscribers of the Red/Rock combo (unfortunately I've never had Redden outside of elite). It's barely noteworthy, let alone, to gloat over (which would only be the case if someone privately denigrated your selection...). Ultimately, everyone was cognisant of his potential & saw him as a prospective elite, (if anyone Rico actually made the call long before the season started).
Quote from: powersuperkents on August 13, 2014, 12:38:58 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 29, 2014, 09:00:59 AM
Quote from: HBTD22 on July 29, 2014, 08:57:42 AM
I've had him since day one at 558k or whatever he was and I got absolutely slammed for it on here. I can't wait til an end of season gloat thread if he keeps this up... ::)
really? that's hard to believe he was very popular on fanfooty in the pre season
+1 (agree with Kilbluff here)
I've started him since 2012 & traded him in as a POD when he returned from injury in 2011 (1st game back & overall his 2nd best season & was extremely unique)/ plus downgraded him in 2010. Everyone was promoting him in the fanfooty forums this season... Those who didn't were inquiring as to why... Literally no one had any disparaging comments about him at all...
A lot of people started him this season (including myself) & many people in the past have been long subscribers of the Red/Rock combo (unfortunately I've never had Redden outside of elite). It's barely noteworthy, let alone, to gloat over (which would only be the case if someone privately denigrated your selection...). Ultimately, everyone was cognisant of his potential & saw him as a prospective elite, (if anyone Rico actually made the call long before the season started).
The only reason why a lot of ppl didn't have him after round one is because he got rubbed out for a few weeks and it was the free hit round so you still had unlimited trades. It was prob less smart to hang onto him during this time than to trade him in when he came back like I and a lot of other coaches did. Thats prob why you got slammed and IMO its within reason.
Quote from: jvalles69 on August 13, 2014, 06:15:20 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on August 13, 2014, 12:38:58 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 29, 2014, 09:00:59 AM
Quote from: HBTD22 on July 29, 2014, 08:57:42 AM
I've had him since day one at 558k or whatever he was and I got absolutely slammed for it on here. I can't wait til an end of season gloat thread if he keeps this up... ::)
really? that's hard to believe he was very popular on fanfooty in the pre season
+1 (agree with Kilbluff here)
I've started him since 2012 & traded him in as a POD when he returned from injury in 2011 (1st game back & overall his 2nd best season & was extremely unique)/ plus downgraded him in 2010. Everyone was promoting him in the fanfooty forums this season... Those who didn't were inquiring as to why... Literally no one had any disparaging comments about him at all...
A lot of people started him this season (including myself) & many people in the past have been long subscribers of the Red/Rock combo (unfortunately I've never had Redden outside of elite). It's barely noteworthy, let alone, to gloat over (which would only be the case if someone privately denigrated your selection...). Ultimately, everyone was cognisant of his potential & saw him as a prospective elite, (if anyone Rico actually made the call long before the season started).
The only reason why a lot of ppl didn't have him after round one is because he got rubbed out for a few weeks and it was the free hit round so you still had unlimited trades. It was prob less smart to hang onto him during this time than to trade him in when he came back like I and a lot of other coaches did. Thats prob why you got slammed and IMO its within reason.
+1
Forgot about his r2 suspension, I didn't have him for 2 weeks (the first week he was suspended). Definitely the main reason why most people didn't have him & now I think HBTD22 is referring to people criticizing him for holding for r2... Which is barely commendable, let alone a reason to "gloat"... hahahaha
Quote from: powersuperkents on August 13, 2014, 06:55:20 PM
Forgot about his r2 suspension, I didn't have him for 2 weeks (the first week he was suspended). Definitely the main reason why most people didn't have him & now I think HBTD22 is referring to people criticizing him for holding for r2... Which is barely commendable, let alone a reason to "gloat"... hahahaha
Sorry, I should clarify. I traded him out after the free hit (cause of suspension) and then I traded him back in when Barlow got injured (so round three or four or whatever it was). Was tossing up between him and Pendles and went Rocky and got scolded for it. I guess I had the last laugh (and I brought in Pendles about 4-5 weeks later anyway). ;)
any rain forecast for saturday, pig loves a dirty track
Quote from: strikes91 on August 13, 2014, 09:35:34 PM
any rain forecast for saturday, pig loves a dirty track
late shower
if only it could be on a sunday (rain forecast)
that said though, he did notch up 180 on (what I thought for a Brisbane day) was a cold dry winter
Oink
Quote from: Nails on August 17, 2014, 12:44:33 AM
Quote from: strikes91 on August 17, 2014, 12:35:12 AM
Oink
Was at the game, thought I smelled bacon.
would of been a strong scent in the 2nd half.
113 points
oink oink oink
that'll do pig
So has he beaten Swan's average then? (for now at least)
legend
I don't think Rocky should be referred to as the Pig, 'why?' you might ask, because his disposals are usually effective. Conversely Swan used to rack up, however his efficiency was flowering terrible. Rocky is basically a one-man team, he played a quarterback type of role against North which saw the Lions destroy them after the 1st quarter, he carries them during a loss & is the centre piece when they win. I've personally never seen Swan do that, & outside of dream team, Swan has always been overrated, Beams & Sidey have contributed more over the past few years & Pendles would be Collingwood's Rocky in terms of actual football, however, unlike Rocky he has decent support (looks to be over for Collingwood for the next few seasons though).
Regarding the Lions, Hanley's return & Martin addition into the team has created an unstoppable trio, Crisp has helped immensely, & on top of that they vaunt a lot more young talent. Redden's return will only lift them (seriously they don't even consider Moloney anymore) & I think they'll be in the race for the finals next year (however, it's another question entirely if they're ready to actually make the 8). Leppa has been a quality rebuilding coach
Quote from: powersuperkents on August 17, 2014, 03:35:44 PM
I don't think Rocky should be referred to as the Pig, 'why?' you might ask, because his disposals are usually effective. Conversely Swan used to rack up, however his efficiency was flowering terrible. Rocky is basically a one-man team, he played a quarterback type of role against North which saw the Lions destroy them after the 1st quarter, he carries them during a loss & is the centre piece when they win. I've personally never seen Swan do that, & outside of dream team, Swan has always been overrated, Beams & Sidey have contributed more over the past few years & Pendles would be Collingwood's Rocky in terms of actual football, however, unlike Rocky he has decent support (looks to be over for Collingwood for the next few seasons though).
Regarding the Lions, Hanley's return & Martin addition into the team has created an unstoppable trio, Crisp has helped immensely, & on top of that they vaunt a lot more young talent. Redden's return will only lift them (seriously they don't even consider Moloney anymore) & I think they'll be in the race for the finals next year (however, it's another question entirely if they're ready to actually make the 8). Leppa has been a quality rebuilding coach
the traders class him as the pig as always going back for 2nds. Back tracking marks, tackles one, twos. That's definition of pig.
Quote from: powersuperkents on August 17, 2014, 03:35:44 PM
I don't think Rocky should be referred to as the Pig, 'why?' you might ask, because his disposals are usually effective. Conversely Swan used to rack up, however his efficiency was flowering terrible. Rocky is basically a one-man team, he played a quarterback type of role against North which saw the Lions destroy them after the 1st quarter, he carries them during a loss & is the centre piece when they win. I've personally never seen Swan do that, & outside of dream team, Swan has always been overrated, Beams & Sidey have contributed more over the past few years & Pendles would be Collingwood's Rocky in terms of actual football, however, unlike Rocky he has decent support (looks to be over for Collingwood for the next few seasons though).
Regarding the Lions, Hanley's return & Martin addition into the team has created an unstoppable trio, Crisp has helped immensely, & on top of that they vaunt a lot more young talent. Redden's return will only lift them (seriously they don't even consider Moloney anymore) & I think they'll be in the race for the finals next year (however, it's another question entirely if they're ready to actually make the 8). Leppa has been a quality rebuilding coach
Moloney has retired and you forgot about rich :P
Luey, Martin, Rocky, Rich, Hanley, Redden, Zorko, Green, Crisp, Aish, Taylor, Paparone, Adcock, Robertson, Bewick, Harwood and Obrien. You scared yet by that midfield (rotating)?
Quote from: Ricochet on July 29, 2014, 10:07:48 AM
He's going to have to average 145.8 across the last 5 games to beat 133.
Remaining Fixture
Team (highest ever score): ave since 2011
Melbourne (134): 125.6
Adelaide (138): 98.6
Collingwood (123): 98 - hasn't played the pies since 2012 though
Freo (172): 110.5
Geelong (140): 115.5
So even if he hits his highest ever scores against these teams he still won't quite make it unfortunately
Dees: 110
Crows: 180
Pies: 165
Freo: 154
Bring on the Cats
PA just said in a thread he just made that Rocky needs 112 next week.
He's got it in the bag I reckon.
belted out a 140 in rd 23 last year against the cats, captained me too a premiership, hoping for back to back
Oink Oink
Quote from: GoLions16 on August 24, 2014, 04:05:01 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 29, 2014, 10:07:48 AM
He's going to have to average 145.8 across the last 5 games to beat 133.
Remaining Fixture
Team (highest ever score): ave since 2011
Melbourne (134): 125.6
Adelaide (138): 98.6
Collingwood (123): 98 - hasn't played the pies since 2012 though
Freo (172): 110.5
Geelong (140): 115.5
So even if he hits his highest ever scores against these teams he still won't quite make it unfortunately
Dees: 110
Crows: 180
Pies: 165
Freo: 154
Bring on the Cats
#Freak
well he wins, bit of anti climax.
Oink
Oink
anyone else noticed the missing G :P
Quote from: pommyadam on September 01, 2014, 05:26:18 PM
anyone else noticed the missing G :P
haha no, and I made this.
Quote from: nrich102 on August 17, 2014, 03:42:16 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on August 17, 2014, 03:35:44 PM
I don't think Rocky should be referred to as the Pig, 'why?' you might ask, because his disposals are usually effective. Conversely Swan used to rack up, however his efficiency was flowering terrible. Rocky is basically a one-man team, he played a quarterback type of role against North which saw the Lions destroy them after the 1st quarter, he carries them during a loss & is the centre piece when they win. I've personally never seen Swan do that, & outside of dream team, Swan has always been overrated, Beams & Sidey have contributed more over the past few years & Pendles would be Collingwood's Rocky in terms of actual football, however, unlike Rocky he has decent support (looks to be over for Collingwood for the next few seasons though).
Regarding the Lions, Hanley's return & Martin addition into the team has created an unstoppable trio, Crisp has helped immensely, & on top of that they vaunt a lot more young talent. Redden's return will only lift them (seriously they don't even consider Moloney anymore) & I think they'll be in the race for the finals next year (however, it's another question entirely if they're ready to actually make the 8). Leppa has been a quality rebuilding coach
Moloney has retired and you forgot about rich :P
Luey, Martin, Rocky, Rich, Hanley, Redden, Zorko, Green, Crisp, Aish, Taylor, Paparone, Adcock, Robertson, Bewick, Harwood and Obrien. You scared yet by that midfield (rotating)?
+ Mayes ;)
A lot of the players are too young to have an immediate impact (barring Taylor, Crisp & Aish) but I think all the players who have come to prominence over the last few years will remain consistent (especially considering what they've been through for the last few years, they definitely would have found a sense of independent (GCS are a polar opposite hahaha). Hanley, Martin, Rocky & Redden are all basically elite or almost elite (Rocky & Hanley have to be elite after this season). The mosquito squad have all been fantastic this season, and again seem very self-reliant from very young ages. Robertson, Bewick, Paparone & O'Brien are the only 3 from the list who I'm not convinced by... yet. I think next season they'll be provided with more opportunities and after seeing Leppa this season building one of the most inform sides out youngsters, I have no doubts that he'll be able to take four of them to the next level in their game. Honestly as a PAFC supporter I've seen this before with Ken Hinkley, of course Hinkley had a lot of support from Kochie and could take a pre-existing team to the finals in one season. Leppa is taking the same steps (culling the old players and giving the young players a sense of independence), I could see them making the finals next year depending on how they start. I'd say most likely say the year after next they'll be able to secure a solid position 4th-7th. They are going to be a very dangerous side soon.
Also, I like how Leppa threw Taylor and Aish right into the game, saw it last year with Ollie Wines and I think it'll set them up for their careers. Gained a lot of respect for Taylor after seeing the Rising Star ceremony, just to know where he came from and the fact he seemed uncomfortable on stage & on camera (I think FoxFooty put him in a vulnerable position for a 19yo who has lived in the country for basically his entire life) showed that his priorities were almost solely on the game and not the external factors surrounding it. He will be a fantastic player for years to come
Quote from: powersuperkents on September 05, 2014, 05:30:36 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on August 17, 2014, 03:42:16 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on August 17, 2014, 03:35:44 PM
I don't think Rocky should be referred to as the Pig, 'why?' you might ask, because his disposals are usually effective. Conversely Swan used to rack up, however his efficiency was flowering terrible. Rocky is basically a one-man team, he played a quarterback type of role against North which saw the Lions destroy them after the 1st quarter, he carries them during a loss & is the centre piece when they win. I've personally never seen Swan do that, & outside of dream team, Swan has always been overrated, Beams & Sidey have contributed more over the past few years & Pendles would be Collingwood's Rocky in terms of actual football, however, unlike Rocky he has decent support (looks to be over for Collingwood for the next few seasons though).
Regarding the Lions, Hanley's return & Martin addition into the team has created an unstoppable trio, Crisp has helped immensely, & on top of that they vaunt a lot more young talent. Redden's return will only lift them (seriously they don't even consider Moloney anymore) & I think they'll be in the race for the finals next year (however, it's another question entirely if they're ready to actually make the 8). Leppa has been a quality rebuilding coach
Moloney has retired and you forgot about rich :P
Luey, Martin, Rocky, Rich, Hanley, Redden, Zorko, Green, Crisp, Aish, Taylor, Paparone, Adcock, Robertson, Bewick, Harwood and Obrien. You scared yet by that midfield (rotating)?
+ Mayes ;)
A lot of the players are too young to have an immediate impact (barring Taylor, Crisp & Aish) but I think all the players who have come to prominence over the last few years will remain consistent (especially considering what they've been through for the last few years, they definitely would have found a sense of independent (GCS are a polar opposite hahaha). Hanley, Martin, Rocky & Redden are all basically elite or almost elite (Rocky & Hanley have to be elite after this season). The mosquito squad have all been fantastic this season, and again seem very self-reliant from very young ages. Robertson, Bewick, Paparone & O'Brien are the only 3 from the list who I'm not convinced by... yet. I think next season they'll be provided with more opportunities and after seeing Leppa this season building one of the most inform sides out youngsters, I have no doubts that he'll be able to take four of them to the next level in their game. Honestly as a PAFC supporter I've seen this before with Ken Hinkley, of course Hinkley had a lot of support from Kochie and could take a pre-existing team to the finals in one season. Leppa is taking the same steps (culling the old players and giving the young players a sense of independence), I could see them making the finals next year depending on how they start. I'd say most likely say the year after next they'll be able to secure a solid position 4th-7th. They are going to be a very dangerous side soon.
Also, I like how Leppa threw Taylor and Aish right into the game, saw it last year with Ollie Wines and I think it'll set them up for their careers. Gained a lot of respect for Taylor after seeing the Rising Star ceremony, just to know where he came from and the fact he seemed uncomfortable on stage & on camera (I think FoxFooty put him in a vulnerable position for a 19yo who has lived in the country for basically his entire life) showed that his priorities were almost solely on the game and not the external factors surrounding it. He will be a fantastic player for years to come
Totally agree.
realistically the average to drop next season ? Rich and Redden back in effect him at all ?
I think it will
Won't be starting with him (seriously... Rocky + Rook vs Scooter + Jelwood isn't a difficult choice) but will consider upon bye-upgrade (and his price has dropped a bit)
Quote from: pommyadam on September 14, 2014, 08:59:45 AM
I think it will
Won't be starting with him (seriously... Rocky + Rook vs Scooter + Jelwood isn't a difficult choice) but will consider upon bye-upgrade (and his price has dropped a bit)
What about Rocky + Rocky + rookie vs Jelwood + Scooter + your captain?
Quote from: GoLions16 on September 14, 2014, 12:54:03 PM
Quote from: pommyadam on September 14, 2014, 08:59:45 AM
I think it will
Won't be starting with him (seriously... Rocky + Rook vs Scooter + Jelwood isn't a difficult choice) but will consider upon bye-upgrade (and his price has dropped a bit)
What about Rocky + Rocky + rookie vs Jelwood + Scooter + your captain?
Captain one of those
So Rocky 130 (reasonable) + Rookie (80) = 340
Jelwood (110) + Scooter (100) + Jelwood (110) = 320
that's a gain of 20 points, and that's assuming Rocky gets that high (remember he was held to sub-ton in rd1 this year) and a best-case scenario for a rookie
and yes... probably 100 is a bit outlandish for Scooter, but he was injured for most of this season, and averaged 108 in 2013
Rocky will probably be too expensive for mind, especially considering I think that his average will fall (with Redden, Aish, Rich and others becoming more prominent) - heck, Swan shed 16 off his 2012 average in 2013
upgrade target for me, particularly with rookie prices sky-rocketing
edit: hey, I appreciate your opinion, it means that we don't have the same sides, which can only be a good thing (or bad for the other :P )
Haha I wasn't saying he'd clearly be the better choice, I just wanted to see some stats :P
I'll probably start with Rocky, but doubt I'll have Ablett as well. Will really depend on who's fairly cheap and looks good, so I know how big I can spend on some players as well. I reckon Rocky will avg 125ish, as he'll get tagged even less, and won't have that tagging role he played in round 1 which kept him to a sub 100 score.
Also, just imagine if you kept holding out to get him this year. There's no way I want to be spending 700k+ during the year on him hahaha