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Poll
Question: Is Tom Rockliff the greatest player of all time?
Option 1: Yes votes: 25
Option 2: Of course votes: 8
Option 3: Obviously votes: 14
Option 4: No, he's so good, he is the greatest 5 players of all time votes: 39
Option 5: WouldBang/10 votes: 84
Title: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on June 21, 2014, 09:48:30 PM
 :-*
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: kilbluff1985 on June 21, 2014, 09:54:00 PM
<<<<<<<<<< is the best ever
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Nige on June 21, 2014, 09:54:24 PM
Obligatory goat pic.

(http://media2.abc2news.com//photo/2013/03/01/screaming_goat_20130301081442_320_240.JPG)

Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Nige on June 21, 2014, 09:56:18 PM
Oops, wrong goat.  :P

Here we go.

(http://www.platinumspeakers.com.au/site/DefaultSite/filesystem/images/Matthew-Richardson.jpg)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Noz on June 21, 2014, 09:56:44 PM
Was Tom the youngest ever person to appear in the All Australian side? Guess not

Oh wait he was voted the best first year player at his club for sure right? Oops that is not right.

Oh I know he took the greatest mark in the history of sport yeah? Damn that's incorrect as well.

He has surely won a medal for best player on the ground in his clubs rivalry match right? Damn suppose he hasn't

Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 21, 2014, 09:58:23 PM
(http://www.richmondfc.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/Invisible%20Archive/Images/Static%20Files/images_richmond/relton_246c.jpg)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on June 21, 2014, 10:05:12 PM
Quote from: Noz on June 21, 2014, 09:56:44 PM
Was Tom the youngest ever person to appear in the All Australian side? Guess not

Oh wait he was voted the best first year player at his club for sure right? Oops that is not right.

Oh I know he took the greatest mark in the history of sport yeah? Damn that's incorrect as well.

He has surely won a medal for best player on the ground in his clubs rivalry match right? Damn suppose he hasn't
Underrated
I don't know if Rocky was eligible for best first year player in his 2nd season, with only 1 game in his first season. And he was still extremely good in his 2nd year anyway
Wasn't the greatest mark ever
He has to play againat Ablett in his rivalry match, Wingard doesn't

Rocky >>> Wingard ;)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Noz on June 21, 2014, 10:16:23 PM
Quote from: GoLions16 on June 21, 2014, 10:05:12 PM
Quote from: Noz on June 21, 2014, 09:56:44 PM
Was Tom the youngest ever person to appear in the All Australian side? Guess not

Oh wait he was voted the best first year player at his club for sure right? Oops that is not right.

Oh I know he took the greatest mark in the history of sport yeah? Damn that's incorrect as well.

He has surely won a medal for best player on the ground in his clubs rivalry match right? Damn suppose he hasn't
Underrated
I don't know if Rocky was eligible for best first year player in his 2nd season, with only 1 game in his first season. And he was still extremely good in his 2nd year anyway
Wasn't the greatest mark ever
He has to play againat Ablett in his rivalry match, Wingard doesn't

Rocky >>> Wingard ;)

Everyone is eligible for the best first year player in their 1st season hence why the award is called the best first year player once they finish their first year they are no longer eligible for the award of best first year player, Don't have to be a genius to figure out the terms and conditions of this award.

The only reason Rockliff is getting all these touches is because no one wearing a Brisbane jumper is actually any good and someone has to get touches.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 21, 2014, 10:20:42 PM
Useless dick waiving contest boys

Both great players, just be happy with that and that they play for the clubs you follow
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on June 21, 2014, 10:21:08 PM
Quote from: Noz on June 21, 2014, 10:16:23 PM
Quote from: GoLions16 on June 21, 2014, 10:05:12 PM
Quote from: Noz on June 21, 2014, 09:56:44 PM
Was Tom the youngest ever person to appear in the All Australian side? Guess not

Oh wait he was voted the best first year player at his club for sure right? Oops that is not right.

Oh I know he took the greatest mark in the history of sport yeah? Damn that's incorrect as well.

He has surely won a medal for best player on the ground in his clubs rivalry match right? Damn suppose he hasn't
Underrated
I don't know if Rocky was eligible for best first year player in his 2nd season, with only 1 game in his first season. And he was still extremely good in his 2nd year anyway
Wasn't the greatest mark ever
He has to play againat Ablett in his rivalry match, Wingard doesn't

Rocky >>> Wingard ;)

Everyone is eligible for the best first year player in their 1st season hence why the award is called the best first year player once they finish their first year they are no longer eligible for the award of best first year player, Don't have to be a genius to figure out the terms and conditions of this award.

The only reason Rockliff is getting all these touches is because no one wearing a Brisbane jumper is actually any good and someone has to get touches.
So therefore your 2nd point is basically invalid is Rocky didn't make his debut until the end of the season...
And Port were shower when Wingard made his debut, sooooooo
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Vinny on June 21, 2014, 10:21:45 PM
Hahaha I'm enjoying it.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on June 21, 2014, 10:25:45 PM
Quote from: Vinny on June 21, 2014, 10:21:45 PM
Hahaha I'm enjoying it.
:P
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Noz on June 21, 2014, 10:30:51 PM
Quote from: GoLions16 on June 21, 2014, 10:21:08 PM
Quote from: Noz on June 21, 2014, 10:16:23 PM
Quote from: GoLions16 on June 21, 2014, 10:05:12 PM
Quote from: Noz on June 21, 2014, 09:56:44 PM
Was Tom the youngest ever person to appear in the All Australian side? Guess not

Oh wait he was voted the best first year player at his club for sure right? Oops that is not right.

Oh I know he took the greatest mark in the history of sport yeah? Damn that's incorrect as well.

He has surely won a medal for best player on the ground in his clubs rivalry match right? Damn suppose he hasn't
Underrated
I don't know if Rocky was eligible for best first year player in his 2nd season, with only 1 game in his first season. And he was still extremely good in his 2nd year anyway
Wasn't the greatest mark ever
He has to play againat Ablett in his rivalry match, Wingard doesn't

Rocky >>> Wingard ;)

Everyone is eligible for the best first year player in their 1st season hence why the award is called the best first year player once they finish their first year they are no longer eligible for the award of best first year player, Don't have to be a genius to figure out the terms and conditions of this award.

The only reason Rockliff is getting all these touches is because no one wearing a Brisbane jumper is actually any good and someone has to get touches.
So therefore your 2nd point is basically invalid is Rocky didn't make his debut until the end of the season...
And Port were shower when Wingard made his debut, sooooooo

I don't care if his first game was in his 3rd year, Once a player gets drafted if they are good enough they can slot straight into the starting lineup. Tom obviously played 1 game in his first year because he wasn't good enough.

The award is not called "Best player in their first year whenever the club decides to actually let them play a game" award, Or "Best second year player because the players who are eligible for this award was not good enough in their first year"
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Nige on June 21, 2014, 10:31:59 PM
44 touches, wowee.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: HotTiges on June 21, 2014, 10:42:18 PM
goatse.cx last week

superstar this week + no Crowley (suck eggs Hanley owners)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on June 21, 2014, 10:42:43 PM
Rocky > both Abletts combined
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: kilbluff1985 on June 21, 2014, 10:42:55 PM
Rocky >Wingard
Dawson>Wingard
Anyotherspudplayer>Wingard
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: HotTiges on June 21, 2014, 10:43:47 PM
Quote from: Vinny on June 21, 2014, 10:42:07 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on June 21, 2014, 10:31:59 PM
44 touches, wowee.
Plus 10 tackles, what a god.

6 clangers & 50% effeciency held him back in terms of SC but whatever mate, gun gun gun.
watched about 30% of the game.. every touch was rushed, or deliberate, turn over etc... lock next year fellas?? 
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: HotTiges on June 21, 2014, 10:44:41 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 21, 2014, 10:42:55 PM
Rocky >Wingard
Dawson>Wingard
Anyotherspudplayer>Wingard

Wingard showerhouse hey... poor Chadwick.. I got him in this week.. felt sorry for the superstar
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: kilbluff1985 on June 21, 2014, 10:45:47 PM
Quote from: HotTiges on June 21, 2014, 10:44:41 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 21, 2014, 10:42:55 PM
Rocky >Wingard
Dawson>Wingard
Anyotherspudplayer>Wingard

Wingard showerhouse hey... poor Chadwick.. I got him in this week.. felt sorry for the superstar

Not really just stirring Noz
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: HotTiges on June 21, 2014, 10:46:57 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 21, 2014, 10:45:47 PM
Quote from: HotTiges on June 21, 2014, 10:44:41 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 21, 2014, 10:42:55 PM
Rocky >Wingard
Dawson>Wingard
Anyotherspudplayer>Wingard

Wingard showerhouse hey... poor Chadwick.. I got him in this week.. felt sorry for the superstar

Not really just stirring Noz
Zorko = cleans Wingard's shoes
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Diesels Pups on June 21, 2014, 10:49:08 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 21, 2014, 09:58:23 PM
(http://www.richmondfc.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/Invisible%20Archive/Images/Static%20Files/images_richmond/relton_246c.jpg)
Ooooh, I remember this guy. Greatest fantasy player to ever play the game. Yee-ha!
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Vinny on June 21, 2014, 10:50:16 PM
Quote from: HotTiges on June 21, 2014, 10:43:47 PM
Quote from: Vinny on June 21, 2014, 10:42:07 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on June 21, 2014, 10:31:59 PM
44 touches, wowee.
Plus 10 tackles, what a god.

6 clangers & 50% effeciency held him back in terms of SC but whatever mate, gun gun gun.
watched about 30% of the game.. every touch was rushed, or deliberate, turn over etc... lock next year fellas??
Next year midfield:

Ablett, Pendles, Fyfe, Rockliff, Libba/Beams.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: HotTiges on June 21, 2014, 10:51:06 PM
Quote from: Diesels Pups on June 21, 2014, 10:49:08 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 21, 2014, 09:58:23 PM
(http://www.richmondfc.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/Invisible%20Archive/Images/Static%20Files/images_richmond/relton_246c.jpg)
Ooooh, I remember this guy. Greatest fantasy player to ever play the game. Yee-ha!
hands up who started with him in 2010 #ME #hamburger@HT #stretcher
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on June 21, 2014, 10:51:49 PM
Quote from: Vinny on June 21, 2014, 10:50:16 PM
Quote from: HotTiges on June 21, 2014, 10:43:47 PM
Quote from: Vinny on June 21, 2014, 10:42:07 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on June 21, 2014, 10:31:59 PM
44 touches, wowee.
Plus 10 tackles, what a god.

6 clangers & 50% effeciency held him back in terms of SC but whatever mate, gun gun gun.
watched about 30% of the game.. every touch was rushed, or deliberate, turn over etc... lock next year fellas??
Next year midfield:

Ablett, Pendles, Fyfe, Rockliff, Libba/Beams.
Final mids will be; Ablett, Pendles, Rocky, Fyfe, Libba, Treloar, Sloaney, Redden :D
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: HotTiges on June 21, 2014, 10:52:11 PM
Quote from: Vinny on June 21, 2014, 10:50:16 PM
Quote from: HotTiges on June 21, 2014, 10:43:47 PM
Quote from: Vinny on June 21, 2014, 10:42:07 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on June 21, 2014, 10:31:59 PM
44 touches, wowee.
Plus 10 tackles, what a god.

6 clangers & 50% effeciency held him back in terms of SC but whatever mate, gun gun gun.
watched about 30% of the game.. every touch was rushed, or deliberate, turn over etc... lock next year fellas??
Next year midfield:

Ablett, Pendles, Fyfe, Rockliff, Libba/Beams.
Pants dropping.. i'll throw Treloar and Prestia into the cement mixer and see what comes out... is 2015  SC looking tasty or what
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: HotTiges on June 21, 2014, 10:52:59 PM
Quote from: GoLions16 on June 21, 2014, 10:51:49 PM
Quote from: Vinny on June 21, 2014, 10:50:16 PM
Quote from: HotTiges on June 21, 2014, 10:43:47 PM
Quote from: Vinny on June 21, 2014, 10:42:07 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on June 21, 2014, 10:31:59 PM
44 touches, wowee.
Plus 10 tackles, what a god.

6 clangers & 50% effeciency held him back in terms of SC but whatever mate, gun gun gun.
watched about 30% of the game.. every touch was rushed, or deliberate, turn over etc... lock next year fellas??
Next year midfield:

Ablett, Pendles, Fyfe, Rockliff, Libba/Beams.
Final mids will be; Ablett, Pendles, Rocky, Fyfe, Libba, Treloar, Sloaney, Redden :D
moneyball in other areas.. I like it very much
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Vinny on June 21, 2014, 10:57:27 PM
Haha I'm pumped for next year already.

I want JPK too though.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: AaronKirk on June 21, 2014, 10:58:45 PM
Quote from: Diesels Pups on June 21, 2014, 10:49:08 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 21, 2014, 09:58:23 PM
(http://www.richmondfc.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/Invisible%20Archive/Images/Static%20Files/images_richmond/relton_246c.jpg)
Ooooh, I remember this guy. Greatest fantasy player to ever play the game. Yee-ha!
He needs to have another hamburger and a can of coke bruz!! lol.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: HotTiges on June 21, 2014, 10:59:26 PM
Quote from: Vinny on June 21, 2014, 10:57:27 PM
Haha I'm pumped for next year already.

I want JPK too though.

looking fwd to Zac Smith in the rucks too.. JPK, what a star.. slowing down a touch but if he is, can't complain!
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on June 21, 2014, 11:03:23 PM
GOAT scaled up to 158 points
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: HotTiges on June 21, 2014, 11:04:40 PM
Quote from: GoLions16 on June 21, 2014, 11:03:23 PM
GOAT scaled up to 158 points
love scaling personally  ???
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Vinny on June 21, 2014, 11:05:52 PM
Quote from: HotTiges on June 21, 2014, 10:59:26 PM
Quote from: Vinny on June 21, 2014, 10:57:27 PM
Haha I'm pumped for next year already.

I want JPK too though.

looking fwd to Zac Smith in the rucks too.. JPK, what a star.. slowing down a touch but if he is, can't complain!
And NicNat maybe!
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: HotTiges on June 21, 2014, 11:07:24 PM
Quote from: Vinny on June 21, 2014, 11:05:52 PM
Quote from: HotTiges on June 21, 2014, 10:59:26 PM
Quote from: Vinny on June 21, 2014, 10:57:27 PM
Haha I'm pumped for next year already.

I want JPK too though.

looking fwd to Zac Smith in the rucks too.. JPK, what a star.. slowing down a touch but if he is, can't complain!
And NicNat maybe!
need some real knowledge in the West with the pre season.. just get on the track NicNat!!!
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Vinny on June 22, 2014, 12:16:16 AM
So Rockliff was expected to do bad in two games, against Freo where he would get Crowley supposedly & Carlton where he would get Carrazzo with Curnow out.

Vs Carlton: 182
Vs Freo: 158

Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Mat0369 on June 22, 2014, 12:55:26 AM
This thread is lacking a serious amount of GOAT

His greatness could not be contained, it transcends normal people, it was too big for the Carlton Football Club.


(http://www.aflplayers.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/josh-bootsma-760x438.jpg)

The real GOAT, Josh Bootsma

Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: HotTiges on June 22, 2014, 01:17:13 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on June 22, 2014, 12:55:26 AM
This thread is lacking a serious amount of GOAT

His greatness could not be contained, it transcends normal people, it was too big for the Carlton Football Club.


(http://www.aflplayers.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/josh-bootsma-760x438.jpg)

The real GOAT, Josh Bootsma
when I see that thing.. all think of is "look at moi"
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Jackross10 on June 22, 2014, 01:40:22 AM
Haha quality thread
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: HotTiges on June 22, 2014, 01:43:02 AM
the FanFooty favourite.. every week in my leagues, I reckon maybe 1 out of 5 opponents have him..
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: HotTiges on June 22, 2014, 01:51:47 AM
Rockliff + Bears Guernsey.. wow!
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: HotTiges on June 22, 2014, 01:57:49 AM
after his first game... who would of known..

2009 BL 1 DT 23 23 SC 12 12 31 31 1.5 : 1 1.6 : 1 0% 1
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Jay on June 22, 2014, 02:36:09 AM
Quote from: GoLions16 on June 21, 2014, 10:42:43 PM
Rocky > both Abletts combined
Ablett > Rocky

*talking about Nathan*  :P
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: tommy10 on June 22, 2014, 10:59:04 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 21, 2014, 09:58:23 PM
(http://www.richmondfc.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/Invisible%20Archive/Images/Static%20Files/images_richmond/relton_246c.jpg)
Lmfao Mr Hamburger Relton!!!
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Ricochet on June 22, 2014, 11:41:09 AM
saw a GOAT and thought it was Jukesy talking about Stants...
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on June 22, 2014, 11:56:08 AM
Quote from: HotTiges on June 22, 2014, 01:51:47 AM
Rockliff + Bears Guernsey.. wow!
Pretty raunchy, not gonna lie

Quote from: Ricochet on June 22, 2014, 11:41:09 AM
saw a GOAT and thought it was Jukesy talking about Stants...
Or Jesse Hogan :P
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on July 26, 2014, 06:16:09 PM
bump :P
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 26, 2014, 06:19:33 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 21, 2014, 09:54:00 PM
<<<<<<<<<< is the best ever
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: HotTiges on July 26, 2014, 06:21:46 PM
Rocky boy, Rocky boy...
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: nrich102 on July 26, 2014, 06:28:30 PM
No more needs to be said.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: HotTiges on July 26, 2014, 06:47:05 PM
In the words of Sandy Roberts "what more can you say!"
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: tommy10 on July 26, 2014, 07:18:23 PM
Stoked I have Rocky, Hanley, Zorko and S Martin!!
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: WizzFizz on July 26, 2014, 07:29:40 PM
robbed of 200 sc
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: WizzFizz on July 26, 2014, 07:31:15 PM
according to CD

16 touches 13 kicks 3 handballs 1 mark 2 tackles 4 frees is worth + 10  >:(
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: no eye deer on July 26, 2014, 07:32:06 PM
He's some sort of player, that's for sure! Glad I put the C on him.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: nrich102 on July 26, 2014, 07:32:09 PM
How the flower did he not get 200. Robbed. Why DT is better :P
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 26, 2014, 07:33:38 PM
if only Zorko didn't miss 4 of his shots at goal not complaining though ;D
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: batt on July 26, 2014, 07:39:05 PM
Quote from: tommy10 on July 26, 2014, 07:18:23 PM
Stoked I have Rocky, Hanley, Zorko and S Martin!!
And GOAT captain here!! :D
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: shaker on July 26, 2014, 08:24:31 PM
Quote from: batt on July 26, 2014, 07:39:05 PM
Quote from: tommy10 on July 26, 2014, 07:18:23 PM
Stoked I have Rocky, Hanley, Zorko and S Martin!!
And GOAT captain here!! :D

+1 here ha ha ha
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Nige on July 26, 2014, 08:44:12 PM
WouldBang/10, also applies for Pearce Hanley.  :-*
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: HotTiges on July 26, 2014, 09:05:35 PM
averaging 150 from his last 4..wow!
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: HotTiges on July 26, 2014, 10:40:56 PM
all Rockliff owners..
(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwobmpkPmB1r6aoq4o1_400.gif)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: fever on July 26, 2014, 11:19:56 PM
mario goetze agrees

(http://i.imgur.com/AppsbvX.png)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: tor01doc on July 27, 2014, 01:08:48 AM
fever - can I nominate you for some sort of award for that.

Outstanding in more ways than one.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Blues Blues Blues on July 27, 2014, 07:07:07 AM
Lol - now that is funny
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Jackross10 on July 27, 2014, 08:43:30 AM
Hahaha fever
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Big Mac on July 27, 2014, 08:51:29 AM
Nice one Fever
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Ringo on July 27, 2014, 01:14:22 PM
Read the total GOAT

I think the real goats are all the club recruiters of the 2008 draft in allowing him to be passed and allowing Brisbane to pick him up with their last pick in the pre-season draft.

Greatest pick of the decade imo.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Vinny on July 27, 2014, 01:15:51 PM
Quote from: Ringo on July 27, 2014, 01:14:22 PM
Read the total GOAT

I think the real goats are all the club recruiters of the 2008 draft in allowing him to be passed and allowing Brisbane to pick him up with their last pick in the pre-season draft.

Greatest pick of the decade imo.
Yep, the 2008 draft was a ripper. ;)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Jroo on July 27, 2014, 01:33:53 PM
Haha brilliant Fever!
Had Rocky as C, such a gun.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Vinny on July 27, 2014, 01:43:03 PM
Dammit Ringo. :P
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Sabretooth Tigers on July 27, 2014, 03:24:22 PM
 ;D
RD you're a class act. Absolutely love your 1st reply.     ;)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Woppa15 on July 27, 2014, 11:21:50 PM
This is a wind up right.....

Gaz JR -------->'the world'---------> who really cares who's second, third, fourth etc.....no one will ever come close to Gaz
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: nperera95 on July 28, 2014, 12:03:18 AM
So now, Rocky is the highest averaging player (other than ablett). Rocky is my bby. Still surprise about the low percentage of people who own him! Anyone have the figure?  :o
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: joshua98 on July 28, 2014, 07:48:53 AM
Got suspended at the perfect time, kept him unique
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on July 28, 2014, 08:55:32 AM
Quote from: Woppa15 on July 27, 2014, 11:21:50 PM
This is a wind up right.....

Gaz JR -------->'the world'---------> who really cares who's second, third, fourth etc.....no one will ever come close to Gaz
The poll speaks for itself mate, 54 people agree with me
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: ando_10 on July 28, 2014, 09:22:30 AM
would bang/10  hahahahaha man crush for sure. but that me as a super coach coach talking haha
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Ricochet on July 28, 2014, 09:48:21 AM
Jeez how good were both he and Hanley on the wkend.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Jroo on July 28, 2014, 10:28:05 AM
Quote from: joshua98 on July 28, 2014, 07:48:53 AM
Got suspended at the perfect time, kept him unique
In 15.22% of teams (expect that to rise this week), but yeah he's still pretty unique  :D
I wonder his TOTAL # SELECTIONS, by FanFooty coaches  :o
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: no eye deer on July 28, 2014, 12:30:27 PM
Quote from: joshua98 on July 28, 2014, 07:48:53 AM
Got suspended at the perfect time, kept him unique
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Woppa15 on July 28, 2014, 12:41:55 PM
Quote from: GoLions16 on July 28, 2014, 08:55:32 AM
Quote from: Woppa15 on July 27, 2014, 11:21:50 PM
This is a wind up right.....

Gaz JR -------->'the world'---------> who really cares who's second, third, fourth etc.....no one will ever come close to Gaz
The poll speaks for itself mate, 54 people agree with me

I agree he is a very good player, probably end up one of the better players of his generation but he will never be 'GOAT'.
He has a long way to go to achieve that, a few premierships, multiple brownlow medals and then we can start talking about 'GOAT'
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on July 28, 2014, 04:01:57 PM
Quote from: Woppa15 on July 28, 2014, 12:41:55 PM
Quote from: GoLions16 on July 28, 2014, 08:55:32 AM
Quote from: Woppa15 on July 27, 2014, 11:21:50 PM
This is a wind up right.....

Gaz JR -------->'the world'---------> who really cares who's second, third, fourth etc.....no one will ever come close to Gaz
The poll speaks for itself mate, 54 people agree with me

I agree he is a very good player, probably end up one of the better players of his generation but he will never be 'GOAT'.
He has a long way to go to achieve that, a few premierships, multiple brownlow medals and then we can start talking about 'GOAT'
He doesn't need premierships and brownlows to be the GOAT
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Holz on July 28, 2014, 04:17:02 PM
threads abit early, need to wait a few years for the Jaeger Bomb.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Woppa15 on July 28, 2014, 07:21:19 PM
Quote from: GoLions16 on July 28, 2014, 04:01:57 PM
Quote from: Woppa15 on July 28, 2014, 12:41:55 PM
Quote from: GoLions16 on July 28, 2014, 08:55:32 AM
Quote from: Woppa15 on July 27, 2014, 11:21:50 PM
This is a wind up right.....

Gaz JR -------->'the world'---------> who really cares who's second, third, fourth etc.....no one will ever come close to Gaz
The poll speaks for itself mate, 54 people agree with me

I agree he is a very good player, probably end up one of the better players of his generation but he will never be 'GOAT'.
He has a long way to go to achieve that, a few premierships, multiple brownlow medals and then we can start talking about 'GOAT'
He doesn't need premierships and brownlows to be the GOAT

He won't even be the best Brisbane player of all time, a few far ahead of him.....
Voss, Black, Lynch, probably even Aker just to name a few.....
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on July 28, 2014, 07:34:23 PM
Quote from: Woppa15 on July 28, 2014, 07:21:19 PM
Quote from: GoLions16 on July 28, 2014, 04:01:57 PM
Quote from: Woppa15 on July 28, 2014, 12:41:55 PM
Quote from: GoLions16 on July 28, 2014, 08:55:32 AM
Quote from: Woppa15 on July 27, 2014, 11:21:50 PM
This is a wind up right.....

Gaz JR -------->'the world'---------> who really cares who's second, third, fourth etc.....no one will ever come close to Gaz
The poll speaks for itself mate, 54 people agree with me

I agree he is a very good player, probably end up one of the better players of his generation but he will never be 'GOAT'.
He has a long way to go to achieve that, a few premierships, multiple brownlow medals and then we can start talking about 'GOAT'
He doesn't need premierships and brownlows to be the GOAT

He won't even be the best Brisbane player of all time, a few far ahead of him.....
Voss, Black, Lynch, probably even Aker just to name a few.....

I think a lot went over your head looking at the thread lol
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Big Mac on July 28, 2014, 08:59:46 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on July 28, 2014, 07:34:23 PM
Quote from: Woppa15 on July 28, 2014, 07:21:19 PM
Quote from: GoLions16 on July 28, 2014, 04:01:57 PM
Quote from: Woppa15 on July 28, 2014, 12:41:55 PM
Quote from: GoLions16 on July 28, 2014, 08:55:32 AM
Quote from: Woppa15 on July 27, 2014, 11:21:50 PM
This is a wind up right.....

Gaz JR -------->'the world'---------> who really cares who's second, third, fourth etc.....no one will ever come close to Gaz
The poll speaks for itself mate, 54 people agree with me

I agree he is a very good player, probably end up one of the better players of his generation but he will never be 'GOAT'.
He has a long way to go to achieve that, a few premierships, multiple brownlow medals and then we can start talking about 'GOAT'
He doesn't need premierships and brownlows to be the GOAT

He won't even be the best Brisbane player of all time, a few far ahead of him.....
Voss, Black, Lynch, probably even Aker just to name a few.....

I think a lot went over your head looking at the thread lol
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Woppa15 on July 28, 2014, 11:26:27 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on July 28, 2014, 08:59:46 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on July 28, 2014, 07:34:23 PM
Quote from: Woppa15 on July 28, 2014, 07:21:19 PM
Quote from: GoLions16 on July 28, 2014, 04:01:57 PM
Quote from: Woppa15 on July 28, 2014, 12:41:55 PM
Quote from: GoLions16 on July 28, 2014, 08:55:32 AM
Quote from: Woppa15 on July 27, 2014, 11:21:50 PM
This is a wind up right.....

Gaz JR -------->'the world'---------> who really cares who's second, third, fourth etc.....no one will ever come close to Gaz
The poll speaks for itself mate, 54 people agree with me

I agree he is a very good player, probably end up one of the better players of his generation but he will never be 'GOAT'.
He has a long way to go to achieve that, a few premierships, multiple brownlow medals and then we can start talking about 'GOAT'
He doesn't need premierships and brownlows to be the GOAT

He won't even be the best Brisbane player of all time, a few far ahead of him.....
Voss, Black, Lynch, probably even Aker just to name a few.....

I think a lot went over your head looking at the thread lol

I didn't even read past the first page of the thread  :o
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 29, 2014, 06:58:55 AM
Mike Sheehan finally rates him up there as elite after not putting him in his top 50 lol
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: nperera95 on August 10, 2014, 04:20:29 PM
Pls have my babies rocky
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: no eye deer on August 10, 2014, 04:37:19 PM
Another fantastic captains effort! 8)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: HotTiges on August 10, 2014, 05:37:30 PM
Reminds me of Greg Williams a bit..got a gun handball and geez he can rack it up
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on August 10, 2014, 09:43:47 PM
Seriously, if I had to flower a dude...
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: _wato on August 10, 2014, 10:23:28 PM
So much for teams putting in extra attention - absolute BS the amount of pill he finds, spewing I never picked him up, really is killing me every week, ah well
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: elephants on August 11, 2014, 01:38:11 AM
So Rocky had 40 possessions while Priddis had 42. Therefore, Priddis is the new GOAT.

Here are a few true facts about Priddis:


  • The Swiss army uses a Matt Priddis knife
  • Priddis is French for "Contested Ball".
  • Matt Priddis once won a game of Connect Four in 3 moves
  • Matt Priddis doesn't use Twitter. He is already following you.
  • Matt Priddis frequently donates blood to the Red Cross. Just not his own...
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Blues Blues Blues on August 11, 2014, 02:07:28 AM
Quote from: elephants on August 11, 2014, 01:38:11 AM
So Rocky had 40 possessions while Priddis had 42. Therefore, Priddis is the new GOAT.

Here are a few true facts about Priddis:


  • The Swiss army uses a Matt Priddis knife
  • Priddis is French for "Contested Ball".
  • Matt Priddis once won a game of Connect Four in 3 moves
  • Matt Priddis doesn't use Twitter. He is already following you.
  • Matt Priddis frequently donates blood to the Red Cross. Just not his own...

I see what you've done there, nice
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on August 11, 2014, 09:12:38 AM
Quote from: elephants on August 11, 2014, 01:38:11 AM
So Rocky had 40 possessions while Priddis had 42. Therefore, Priddis is the new GOAT.

Here are a few true facts about Priddis:


  • The Swiss army uses a Matt Priddis knife
  • Priddis is French for "Contested Ball".
  • Matt Priddis once won a game of Connect Four in 3 moves
  • Matt Priddis doesn't use Twitter. He is already following you.
  • Matt Priddis frequently donates blood to the Red Cross. Just not his own...
Ele pls. Rocky also had 5 more marks and 3 more tackles

Although I do admit those "facts" were quite humourous :P
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: _wato on August 11, 2014, 07:02:39 PM
Thought this may be convenient.. Who will be forking out the big $$ for him next year? Could be upward of $700k at this rate with these scores boosting his average by a huge margin!
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on August 11, 2014, 07:26:05 PM
Quote from: _wato on August 11, 2014, 07:02:39 PM
Thought this may be convenient.. Who will be forking out the big $$ for him next year? Could be upward of $700k at this rate with these scores boosting his average by a huge margin!

No way, Pendles & Gaz 100%, just don't think one can squeeze in another high priced mid.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on August 11, 2014, 07:31:04 PM
Quote from: Bully on August 11, 2014, 07:26:05 PM
Quote from: _wato on August 11, 2014, 07:02:39 PM
Thought this may be convenient.. Who will be forking out the big $$ for him next year? Could be upward of $700k at this rate with these scores boosting his average by a huge margin!

No way, Pendles & Gaz 100%, just don't think one can squeeze in another high priced mid.
Rocky is better than both.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on August 11, 2014, 07:37:40 PM
Quote from: GoLions16 on August 11, 2014, 07:31:04 PM
Quote from: Bully on August 11, 2014, 07:26:05 PM
Quote from: _wato on August 11, 2014, 07:02:39 PM
Thought this may be convenient.. Who will be forking out the big $$ for him next year? Could be upward of $700k at this rate with these scores boosting his average by a huge margin!

No way, Pendles & Gaz 100%, just don't think one can squeeze in another high priced mid.
Rocky is better than both.

Rocky is no son of God.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on August 11, 2014, 07:43:55 PM
Quote from: Bully on August 11, 2014, 07:37:40 PM
Quote from: GoLions16 on August 11, 2014, 07:31:04 PM
Quote from: Bully on August 11, 2014, 07:26:05 PM
Quote from: _wato on August 11, 2014, 07:02:39 PM
Thought this may be convenient.. Who will be forking out the big $$ for him next year? Could be upward of $700k at this rate with these scores boosting his average by a huge margin!

No way, Pendles & Gaz 100%, just don't think one can squeeze in another high priced mid.
Rocky is better than both.

Rocky is no son of God.
That's because he is God.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on August 11, 2014, 07:54:55 PM
Quote from: GoLions16 on August 11, 2014, 07:43:55 PM
Quote from: Bully on August 11, 2014, 07:37:40 PM
Quote from: GoLions16 on August 11, 2014, 07:31:04 PM
Quote from: Bully on August 11, 2014, 07:26:05 PM
Quote from: _wato on August 11, 2014, 07:02:39 PM
Thought this may be convenient.. Who will be forking out the big $$ for him next year? Could be upward of $700k at this rate with these scores boosting his average by a huge margin!

No way, Pendles & Gaz 100%, just don't think one can squeeze in another high priced mid.
Rocky is better than both.

Rocky is no son of God.
That's because he is God.

Rocky is a humble boxer with a speech impediment, he's good at punching carcasses though.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 11, 2014, 08:03:50 PM
Quote from: Bully on August 11, 2014, 07:54:55 PM
Quote from: GoLions16 on August 11, 2014, 07:43:55 PM
Quote from: Bully on August 11, 2014, 07:37:40 PM
Quote from: GoLions16 on August 11, 2014, 07:31:04 PM
Quote from: Bully on August 11, 2014, 07:26:05 PM
Quote from: _wato on August 11, 2014, 07:02:39 PM
Thought this may be convenient.. Who will be forking out the big $$ for him next year? Could be upward of $700k at this rate with these scores boosting his average by a huge margin!

No way, Pendles & Gaz 100%, just don't think one can squeeze in another high priced mid.
Rocky is better than both.

Rocky is no son of God.
That's because he is God.

Rocky is a humble boxer with a speech impediment, he's good at punching carcasses though.

no spoilers  ???
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: nrich102 on August 11, 2014, 09:12:02 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 11, 2014, 01:38:11 AM
So Rocky had 40 possessions while Priddis had 42. Therefore, Priddis is the new GOAT.

Here are a few true facts about Priddis:


  • The Swiss army uses a Matt Priddis knife
  • Priddis is French for "Contested Ball".
  • Matt Priddis once won a game of Connect Four in 3 moves
  • Matt Priddis doesn't use Twitter. He is already following you.
  • Matt Priddis frequently donates blood to the Red Cross. Just not his own...
(http://i61.tinypic.com/17vazo.jpg)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Nige on August 11, 2014, 09:16:20 PM
I want to photoshop Rocky's head onto a goat and post it in this thread.  :P
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 12, 2014, 04:25:35 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 11, 2014, 09:16:20 PM
I want to photoshop Rocky's head onto a goat and post it in this thread.  :P

(http://i58.tinypic.com/2j3in9f.png)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Swoozie on August 12, 2014, 11:06:27 AM
Would almost take him over Pendlebury at the moment. Going to be priced huge next season. Not sure where I'm going to get the money for Rocky, Pendles and GAJ to start but I'll find a way.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Ringo on August 12, 2014, 12:00:15 PM
A word of caution on Rocky and yes as you know Brisbane supporter Will the return of Redden effect his scoring as we know Redden has been the leading tackler but Rocky has taken this on now as well but will it revert. He has been getting points for tackles
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Ricochet on August 12, 2014, 12:44:17 PM
Rocky is averaging the same amount of tackles per game (9pg) while Redden has been out as he was when Redden was playing?
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on August 13, 2014, 04:47:07 PM
Yeah ringo he's been tackling well all year, not changed since Redden got injured
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Ricochet on August 13, 2014, 04:58:55 PM
9pg is a flowering showerload as well.

Libba is #2 at 8.2 but then it drops off to 7pg and 6pg
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Nige on August 13, 2014, 04:59:10 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 12, 2014, 04:25:35 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 11, 2014, 09:16:20 PM
I want to photoshop Rocky's head onto a goat and post it in this thread.  :P

(http://i58.tinypic.com/2j3in9f.png)
I suppose a goat's head onto Rocky is fine too.  :o
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Ringo on August 13, 2014, 05:22:08 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 13, 2014, 04:58:55 PM
9pg is a flowering showerload as well.

Libba is #2 at 8.2 but then it drops off to 7pg and 6pg
After his first 5 games of the season he was only averaging 7.4 so over the next 11 he averaged 9.90 so you can see he has become a massive tackler. Since the byes he has only dropped below the 10 mark twice.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: _wato on August 13, 2014, 06:16:08 PM
Quote from: Ringo on August 13, 2014, 05:22:08 PM
After his first 5 games of the season he was only averaging 7.4 so over the next 11 he averaged 9.90 so you can see he has become a massive tackler. Since the byes he has only dropped below the 10 mark twice.

Nice find Ringo, that's an extra 10ppg also.
That would bring his average down in that period from 132 to 122 and his overall average from 129 to 119.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Ricochet on August 13, 2014, 06:24:44 PM
Quote from: Ringo on August 13, 2014, 05:22:08 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 13, 2014, 04:58:55 PM
9pg is a flowering showerload as well.

Libba is #2 at 8.2 but then it drops off to 7pg and 6pg
After his first 5 games of the season he was only averaging 7.4 so over the next 11 he averaged 9.90 so you can see he has become a massive tackler. Since the byes he has only dropped below the 10 mark twice.
Yeh think that might just be by chance that his stats show that sudden increase. Cannot see a huge factor that would cause it apart from a sudden change in mindset/intent
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on August 13, 2014, 06:29:15 PM
Since Redden got injured Rocky has averaged 9.25 tackles a game

Before Redden got injured Rocky was averaging 9.08 tackles a game

There's barely a difference there


But yeah been insane since after round 6
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Ricochet on August 13, 2014, 06:38:07 PM
yeh exactly man. Looking at it, it could just be due to the draw. Brissie's opening month was seriously tough
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Ringo on August 13, 2014, 08:40:34 PM
Also could be put down to Brisbanes emphasis on trying to stop teams from scoring. Until last week we were the second best defensive team after byes.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: tor01doc on August 13, 2014, 08:43:44 PM

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Upside down
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on August 18, 2014, 03:18:12 PM
(http://i.gyazo.com/80d92fdb76f44f5a797efca5805d0678.png)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Ricochet on August 18, 2014, 03:21:27 PM
thats unreal. is that for guys under a certain age? just wondering why Ablett and Swan arent on there
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on August 18, 2014, 03:23:02 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 18, 2014, 03:21:27 PM
thats unreal. is that for guys under a certain age? just wondering why Ablett and Swan arent on there
For first 100 games
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Ricochet on August 18, 2014, 03:52:31 PM
Quote from: GoLions16 on August 18, 2014, 03:23:02 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 18, 2014, 03:21:27 PM
thats unreal. is that for guys under a certain age? just wondering why Ablett and Swan arent on there
For first 100 games
ah ok, no bloody bad hey
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: JBs-Hawks on August 18, 2014, 05:34:56 PM
flower you rocky if you werent suspended I would have brought you in instead of JPK  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on August 18, 2014, 05:37:19 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 18, 2014, 03:52:31 PM
Quote from: GoLions16 on August 18, 2014, 03:23:02 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 18, 2014, 03:21:27 PM
thats unreal. is that for guys under a certain age? just wondering why Ablett and Swan arent on there
For first 100 games
ah ok, no bloody bad hey
And you've also got to remember that he's been in a struggling team basically his whole career, whereas guys like Selwood were in top 8 teams (or thereabouts) for their first 100 games, which IMO makes it a bit easier to get better stats
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Jroo on August 18, 2014, 06:39:30 PM
Quote from: GoLions16 on August 18, 2014, 05:37:19 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 18, 2014, 03:52:31 PM
Quote from: GoLions16 on August 18, 2014, 03:23:02 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 18, 2014, 03:21:27 PM
thats unreal. is that for guys under a certain age? just wondering why Ablett and Swan arent on there
For first 100 games
ah ok, no bloody bad hey
And you've also got to remember that he's been in a struggling team basically his whole career, whereas guys like Selwood were in top 8 teams (or thereabouts) for their first 100 games, which IMO makes it a bit easier to get better stats
Yep exactly.
Don't forget how he was played up forward and wasted by crazy Vossy.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on August 18, 2014, 07:30:24 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 18, 2014, 06:39:30 PM
Quote from: GoLions16 on August 18, 2014, 05:37:19 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 18, 2014, 03:52:31 PM
Quote from: GoLions16 on August 18, 2014, 03:23:02 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 18, 2014, 03:21:27 PM
thats unreal. is that for guys under a certain age? just wondering why Ablett and Swan arent on there
For first 100 games
ah ok, no bloody bad hey
And you've also got to remember that he's been in a struggling team basically his whole career, whereas guys like Selwood were in top 8 teams (or thereabouts) for their first 100 games, which IMO makes it a bit easier to get better stats
Yep exactly.
Don't forget how he was played up forward and wasted by crazy Vossy.
That as well. It's actually ridiculous how good he is in the midfield
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Hagebear on August 19, 2014, 02:28:51 AM
Haven't heard Noz for a while?? Wingard got 6 kicks v the Gold Coast Saturday :P
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: HotTiges on August 24, 2014, 02:32:38 PM
 :-*
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: shaker on August 24, 2014, 02:45:18 PM
He may save my arse this week
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: tommy10 on August 24, 2014, 04:11:53 PM
Quote from: shaker on August 24, 2014, 02:45:18 PM
He may save my arse this week
Same!! But can't believe so many AFL teams overlooked him..
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Nige on August 24, 2014, 04:14:18 PM
Quote from: tommy10 on August 24, 2014, 04:11:53 PM
Quote from: shaker on August 24, 2014, 02:45:18 PM
He may save my arse this week
Same!! But can't believe so many AFL teams overlooked him..
Some may not know or forget that Melbourne picked Jurrah with the first pick in that pre-season draft.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on August 24, 2014, 04:15:21 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 24, 2014, 04:14:18 PM
Quote from: tommy10 on August 24, 2014, 04:11:53 PM
Quote from: shaker on August 24, 2014, 02:45:18 PM
He may save my arse this week
Same!! But can't believe so many AFL teams overlooked him..
Some may not know or forget that Melbourne picked Jurrah with the first pick in that pre-season draft.
Hehe I remember ;D
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Blues Blues Blues on August 24, 2014, 04:16:50 PM
Boom!

Opponent picked Hanley as C instead of Rocky, so that gave me a nice leg up!

Rocky, you have just got me into the GF!

I'll have to change my selection in the poll - I definitely would bang!  ;D
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Dayze on August 24, 2014, 04:26:08 PM
I'd bang for sure.
Needed him this week what a jet
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: shaker on August 24, 2014, 04:59:36 PM
He is putting him self up to be the  GOAT  no question best player this year don't think Gaz could have kept up with this scoring , have a friend who got him this week talk about shutting the gate once the horse has bolted  ::)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: sammy123 on August 24, 2014, 07:31:56 PM
He is great. But not GOAT. A few better than him IMO
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Rowan1812 on August 24, 2014, 07:34:36 PM
Who else like me has had him all year?
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Slashers on August 24, 2014, 07:47:07 PM
Score like that in a flogging! HUNGRY!!!
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Torp on August 24, 2014, 07:50:16 PM
Had him from Day one.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: HotTiges on August 24, 2014, 08:18:56 PM
Quote from: Torp on August 24, 2014, 07:50:16 PM
Had him from Day one.
Yep likewise..

So glad I didn't follow through trading Rocky out to Jobe after round 1
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Slim Don on August 24, 2014, 10:43:39 PM
Day one was no good tho, he's missed 3-4 games right?? Which puts him behind a few for overall score if I'm not mistaken. Saying that he'd still be top 8 scoring mids for the season I would think, which makes him a good pick.

I'm confusing myself ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: HotTiges on August 24, 2014, 11:15:01 PM
Quote from: Slim Don on August 24, 2014, 10:43:39 PM
Day one was no good tho, he's missed 3-4 games right?? Which puts him behind a few for overall score if I'm not mistaken. Saying that he'd still be top 8 scoring mids for the season I would think, which makes him a good pick.

I'm confusing myself ??? ??? ???
You will be kicked out of this thread. Negative Rocky talk..
He had 2 shockers.the first one against Hawks where he got a 90 odd but that was the famous 'rocky tagging' debacle. And the GWS game where for some reason he stunk it up..
He's missed a couple but who hasn't..
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Ramus on August 25, 2014, 07:59:16 AM
In the absence of Ablett, he has been superb as a captain choice for those with him, his last two months have been brilliant. Pity I wasn't clever enough to get him in my team.

I will definitely be doing my best to get him in my starting side next year, Ablett, Pendlebury, Rockliff has a nice ring to it.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: fever on August 25, 2014, 12:34:40 PM
Quote from: Blues Blues Blues on August 24, 2014, 04:16:50 PM
Boom!

Opponent picked Hanley as C instead of Rocky
, so that gave me a nice leg up!

Rocky, you have just got me into the GF!

I'll have to change my selection in the poll - I definitely would bang!  ;D

:o your opponent was not worthy.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Speculator on August 25, 2014, 06:20:16 PM
He is so great he doesn't even get tagged
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: The_Captain on August 28, 2014, 03:19:46 PM
Quote from: ///////////////////////// on August 28, 2014, 02:03:54 PM
Brisbane v Western Sydney, R13 of 2014

"Tom Rockliff: Head to head with Shiel and well beaten on the night..."

Says it all really.

haha slasha ya wanka
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on September 15, 2014, 02:57:59 PM
Quote from: Speculator on August 25, 2014, 06:20:16 PM
He is so great he doesn't even get tagged
Yeah, except for like the 7 or so games he got tagged, he didn't get tagged all season
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Jroo on September 15, 2014, 03:25:14 PM
Quote from: GoLions on September 15, 2014, 02:57:59 PM
Quote from: Speculator on August 25, 2014, 06:20:16 PM
He is so great he doesn't even get tagged
Yeah, except for like the 7 or so games he got tagged, he didn't get tagged all season
Yep, this is why he doesn't get tagged
@FantasyFreako: In the 4 games @rockwiz38 received a hard tag (80+ minutes on opponent) - he averaged 137 #AFLFantasy points. #dontbother #2015AFLProspectus

They can't stop Rocky, but you can stop Hanley or Zorko.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Ricochet on September 15, 2014, 03:26:01 PM
Also isn't as damaging as Hanley/Zorko
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Pkbaldy on September 15, 2014, 04:50:38 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on September 15, 2014, 03:25:14 PM
Quote from: GoLions on September 15, 2014, 02:57:59 PM
Quote from: Speculator on August 25, 2014, 06:20:16 PM
He is so great he doesn't even get tagged
Yeah, except for like the 7 or so games he got tagged, he didn't get tagged all season
Yep, this is why he doesn't get tagged
@FantasyFreako: In the 4 games @rockwiz38 received a hard tag (80+ minutes on opponent) - he averaged 137 #AFLFantasy points. #dontbother #2015AFLProspectus

They can't stop Rocky, but you can stop Hanley or Zorko.

This.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Speculator on September 26, 2014, 11:56:08 AM
Oh ok well I guess that makes him the greatest of all time. Give me a break.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on October 31, 2014, 05:42:48 PM
Quote from: Speculator on September 26, 2014, 11:56:08 AM
Oh ok well I guess that makes him the greatest of all time. Give me a break.
Don't worry about it, not everyone realized Rocky was GOAT straight away.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: The_Captain on October 31, 2014, 06:43:29 PM
GOAT!!!!! Is goat is gooooood.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on November 01, 2014, 12:21:10 AM
pfffffft


<--------------- GOAT  :P
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on January 30, 2015, 01:11:58 AM
No prizes for guessing who my first picked player was.

I'll give you a hint though: He's the winner of the 2015 Brownlow Medal
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: AaronKirk on January 30, 2015, 01:13:28 AM
Quote from: GoLions on January 30, 2015, 01:11:58 AM
No prizes for guessing who my first picked player was.

I'll give you a hint though: He's the winner of the 2015 Brownlow Medal

Dyson Heppell is your first picked player? Thought so  ;D
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on January 30, 2015, 01:17:04 AM
Quote from: AaronKirk on January 30, 2015, 01:13:28 AM
Quote from: GoLions on January 30, 2015, 01:11:58 AM
No prizes for guessing who my first picked player was.

I'll give you a hint though: He's the winner of the 2015 Brownlow Medal

Dyson Heppell is your first picked player? Thought so  ;D
No, HepD is the 2017 winner. Silly AK.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: AaronKirk on January 30, 2015, 01:37:13 AM
Quote from: GoLions on January 30, 2015, 01:17:04 AM
Quote from: AaronKirk on January 30, 2015, 01:13:28 AM
Quote from: GoLions on January 30, 2015, 01:11:58 AM
No prizes for guessing who my first picked player was.

I'll give you a hint though: He's the winner of the 2015 Brownlow Medal

Dyson Heppell is your first picked player? Thought so  ;D
No, HepD is the 2015, 2016 and 2017 winner. Silly AK.
Fixed
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on January 30, 2015, 01:40:14 AM
Quote from: AaronKirk on January 30, 2015, 01:37:13 AM
Quote from: GoLions on January 30, 2015, 01:17:04 AM
Quote from: AaronKirk on January 30, 2015, 01:13:28 AM
Quote from: GoLions on January 30, 2015, 01:11:58 AM
No prizes for guessing who my first picked player was.

I'll give you a hint though: He's the winner of the 2015 Brownlow Medal

Dyson Heppell is your first picked player? Thought so  ;D
No, HepD is the 2018 winner, after Rocky takes out the hat-trick with 2015, 2016 and 2017 Brownlows. Silly AK.
Fixed
Cheers mate.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: AaronKirk on January 30, 2015, 01:53:09 AM
Quote from: GoLions on January 30, 2015, 01:40:14 AM
Quote from: AaronKirk on January 30, 2015, 01:37:13 AM
Quote from: GoLions on January 30, 2015, 01:17:04 AM
Quote from: AaronKirk on January 30, 2015, 01:13:28 AM
Quote from: GoLions on January 30, 2015, 01:11:58 AM
No prizes for guessing who my first picked player was.

I'll give you a hint though: He's the winner of the 2015 Brownlow Medal

Dyson Heppell is your first picked player? Thought so  ;D
No, Rocky is the 2018 winner, after HepD takes out the hat-trick with 2015, 2016 and 2017 Brownlows. Silly AK.
Fixed
Cheers mate.
No worries
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: nrich102 on January 30, 2015, 08:02:20 AM
I decided I'd pick him as, well can see the captaincy really helping him ;D

135 average coming right up  ;)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Noz on January 30, 2015, 09:01:16 AM
Quote from: GoLions on January 30, 2015, 01:11:58 AM
No prizes for guessing who my first picked player was.

I'll give you a hint though: He's the winner of the 2015 Brownlow Medal

The Chad?

Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Woppa15 on January 30, 2015, 02:06:13 PM
Where's the 'NO' option.....
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on January 31, 2015, 01:09:14 AM
Quote from: Woppa15 on January 30, 2015, 02:06:13 PM
Where's the 'NO' option.....
On BigFooty
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: honza on January 31, 2015, 01:13:44 AM
45 touches and 12 tackles... on Crowley.

Those blokes get picked once in my side. they're never unpicked again.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Money Shot on January 31, 2015, 02:09:38 PM
I really want him but do you guys think people aren't picking him because of his price or because he of the new inclusions to the side?
Will they effect the goat to much?
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Grufflez on February 01, 2015, 01:41:30 AM
I think the thing people forget with teams like Brisbane & GWS is that they will be more competitive this year and get a bigger share of the total game points due to wins or even just controlling more of the play.

      Please correct me if this conclusion of mine is wrong  :)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: AaronKirk on February 01, 2015, 02:32:10 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on January 31, 2015, 02:09:38 PM
I really want him but do you guys think people aren't picking him because of his price or because he of the new inclusions to the side?
Will they effect the goat to much?

History says he won't go 120+ again

Only GAJ, Pendles and Swan in their careers have had multiple seasons of 120+

Now Rocky may go on a tear and average above 120 again but yet again history says he starts the season slow and comes home with a wet sail.

The unknown of how the new additions will affect the points distribution in the Brisbane Mids is the main reason not to pick him early IMO.

History and the new additions mean I cannot pick Rocky to start the season. His price IMO is not relevant at this stage.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Ricochet on February 01, 2015, 02:39:39 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on February 01, 2015, 02:32:10 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on January 31, 2015, 02:09:38 PM
I really want him but do you guys think people aren't picking him because of his price or because he of the new inclusions to the side?
Will they effect the goat to much?

History says he won't go 120+ again

Only GAJ, Pendles and Swan in their careers have had multiple seasons of 120+

Now Rocky may go on a tear and average above 120 again but yet again history says he starts the season slow and comes home with a wet sail.

The unknown of how the new additions will affect the points distribution in the Brisbane Mids is the main reason not to pick him early IMO.

History and the new additions mean I cannot pick Rocky to start the season. His price IMO is not relevant at this stage.
Rocky is on the same level of pig status. He may very well struggle to keep up his average but he won't drop below 120
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on February 02, 2015, 10:15:45 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on February 01, 2015, 02:32:10 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on January 31, 2015, 02:09:38 PM
I really want him but do you guys think people aren't picking him because of his price or because he of the new inclusions to the side?
Will they effect the goat to much?

History says he won't go 120+ again

Only GAJ, Pendles and Swan in their careers have had multiple seasons of 120+

Now Rocky may go on a tear and average above 120 again but yet again history says he starts the season slow and comes home with a wet sail.

The unknown of how the new additions will affect the points distribution in the Brisbane Mids is the main reason not to pick him early IMO.

History and the new additions mean I cannot pick Rocky to start the season. His price IMO is not relevant at this stage.
How many players have gone 130+ and not backed it up the year after though? ;)

It's extremely likely his average will drop a bit, and he'll be able to get picked up a bit cheaper. But, it's also extremely likely that he won't drop under 120, and therefore, unless he has an injury game or something, he's still going to be extremely difficult to bring in during the year.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: PICCOLLO on February 04, 2015, 09:50:33 AM
Theres no doubting his class or that he'll finish in the top 8 mids this year IMO. Id just love him to play 22 games. Unless he significantly unbalances the dynamic of your team, I'd say lock him in and VC loop him and Gazza all year and watch the scores roll in.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on February 05, 2015, 04:55:30 PM
Quote from: PICCOLLO on February 04, 2015, 09:50:33 AM
Theres no doubting his class or that he'll finish in the top 8 mids this year IMO. Id just love him to play 22 games. Unless he significantly unbalances the dynamic of your team, I'd say lock him in and VC loop him and Gazza all year and watch the scores roll in.
Preciselessness.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: meow meow on February 05, 2015, 06:19:31 PM
Quote from: GoLions on February 02, 2015, 10:15:45 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on February 01, 2015, 02:32:10 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on January 31, 2015, 02:09:38 PM
I really want him but do you guys think people aren't picking him because of his price or because he of the new inclusions to the side?
Will they effect the goat to much?

History says he won't go 120+ again

Only GAJ, Pendles and Swan in their careers have had multiple seasons of 120+

Now Rocky may go on a tear and average above 120 again but yet again history says he starts the season slow and comes home with a wet sail.

The unknown of how the new additions will affect the points distribution in the Brisbane Mids is the main reason not to pick him early IMO.

History and the new additions mean I cannot pick Rocky to start the season. His price IMO is not relevant at this stage.
How many players have gone 130+ and not backed it up the year after though? ;)

All 4 of them. GAJ has done it once but failed once too. The other 3 didn't even go close the next year.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on February 05, 2015, 06:38:18 PM
Quote from: meow meow on February 05, 2015, 06:19:31 PM
Quote from: GoLions on February 02, 2015, 10:15:45 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on February 01, 2015, 02:32:10 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on January 31, 2015, 02:09:38 PM
I really want him but do you guys think people aren't picking him because of his price or because he of the new inclusions to the side?
Will they effect the goat to much?

History says he won't go 120+ again

Only GAJ, Pendles and Swan in their careers have had multiple seasons of 120+

Now Rocky may go on a tear and average above 120 again but yet again history says he starts the season slow and comes home with a wet sail.

The unknown of how the new additions will affect the points distribution in the Brisbane Mids is the main reason not to pick him early IMO.

History and the new additions mean I cannot pick Rocky to start the season. His price IMO is not relevant at this stage.
How many players have gone 130+ and not backed it up the year after though? ;)

All 4 of them. GAJ has done it once but failed once too. The other 3 didn't even go close the next year.
Out of curiosity, who were the other 3?
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: meow meow on February 05, 2015, 06:41:18 PM
Goddard, Judd, Jonathan Brown
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: AaronKirk on February 05, 2015, 06:47:29 PM
Quote from: GoLions on February 05, 2015, 06:38:18 PM
Quote from: meow meow on February 05, 2015, 06:19:31 PM
Quote from: GoLions on February 02, 2015, 10:15:45 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on February 01, 2015, 02:32:10 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on January 31, 2015, 02:09:38 PM
I really want him but do you guys think people aren't picking him because of his price or because he of the new inclusions to the side?
Will they effect the goat to much?

History says he won't go 120+ again

Only GAJ, Pendles and Swan in their careers have had multiple seasons of 120+

Now Rocky may go on a tear and average above 120 again but yet again history says he starts the season slow and comes home with a wet sail.

The unknown of how the new additions will affect the points distribution in the Brisbane Mids is the main reason not to pick him early IMO.

History and the new additions mean I cannot pick Rocky to start the season. His price IMO is not relevant at this stage.
How many players have gone 130+ and not backed it up the year after though? ;)

All 4 of them. GAJ has done it once but failed once too. The other 3 didn't even go close the next year.
Out of curiosity, who were the other 3?

Luke Hodge 2005 went 135.3, dropped to 103.6 in 2006
Jonathon Brown 2006 went 140.5, dropped to 111.3 in 2007
Chris Judd 2006 went 131.8, dropped to 106.4 in 2007
Rockliff 2014 went 132 avg, ? in 2015
Ablett has gone 130+ in 2008,2009, 2012 and 2014

Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on February 05, 2015, 09:00:22 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on February 05, 2015, 06:47:29 PM
Quote from: GoLions on February 05, 2015, 06:38:18 PM
Quote from: meow meow on February 05, 2015, 06:19:31 PM
Quote from: GoLions on February 02, 2015, 10:15:45 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on February 01, 2015, 02:32:10 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on January 31, 2015, 02:09:38 PM
I really want him but do you guys think people aren't picking him because of his price or because he of the new inclusions to the side?
Will they effect the goat to much?

History says he won't go 120+ again

Only GAJ, Pendles and Swan in their careers have had multiple seasons of 120+

Now Rocky may go on a tear and average above 120 again but yet again history says he starts the season slow and comes home with a wet sail.

The unknown of how the new additions will affect the points distribution in the Brisbane Mids is the main reason not to pick him early IMO.

History and the new additions mean I cannot pick Rocky to start the season. His price IMO is not relevant at this stage.
How many players have gone 130+ and not backed it up the year after though? ;)

All 4 of them. GAJ has done it once but failed once too. The other 3 didn't even go close the next year.
Out of curiosity, who were the other 3?

Luke Hodge 2005 went 135.3, dropped to 103.6 in 2006
Jonathon Brown 2006 went 140.5, dropped to 111.3 in 2007
Chris Judd 2006 went 131.8, dropped to 106.4 in 2007
Rockliff 2014 went 132 avg, ? in 2015
Ablett has gone 130+ in 2008,2009, 2012 and 2014

Some great stats, there's certainly no guarantees but I reckon one could safely assume that Rocky is facing the tide of history. He'll be a keeper but I reckon there will be some good opportunities down the track. It's also worth noting that Rocky's three sub 100 scores all came in the first 13 rounds, this has also been replicated in previous seasons. Just for a bit of fun here are his early opponents and his 2014 scores.

vs Collingwood (137)
vs North Melbourne (126)
vs Richmond (115 & 141)
vs West Coast (DNP)
vs GC (155 & 175)
vs Carlton (182)
vs Port (117)
vs Essendon (133)

Average = 142

Looking at these numbers it certainly is a tough call, it's a pretty decent opening to the season and only Port represents a major obstacle.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Ricochet on February 05, 2015, 09:27:26 PM
I guess what sets Rocky apart from others is that his points come from simply racking showerloads of the footy. It isnt elite disposal like a Goddard and Judd, or goals like a Brown. Elite users can get tagged and key forwards have up and down years but pigs don't lose the ability to find the ball.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on December 18, 2015, 11:21:00 AM
Pfft, who dares archive the thread of the goat
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Football Factory on December 18, 2015, 02:15:51 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on February 05, 2015, 09:27:26 PM
I guess what sets Rocky apart from others is that his points come from simply racking showerloads of the footy. It isnt elite disposal like a Goddard and Judd, or goals like a Brown. Elite users can get tagged and key forwards have up and down years but pigs don't lose the ability to find the ball.

+1
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: meow meow on December 20, 2015, 06:35:54 AM
Quote from: AaronKirk on February 05, 2015, 06:47:29 PM
Quote from: GoLions on February 05, 2015, 06:38:18 PM
Quote from: meow meow on February 05, 2015, 06:19:31 PM
Quote from: GoLions on February 02, 2015, 10:15:45 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on February 01, 2015, 02:32:10 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on January 31, 2015, 02:09:38 PM
I really want him but do you guys think people aren't picking him because of his price or because he of the new inclusions to the side?
Will they effect the goat to much?

History says he won't go 120+ again

Only GAJ, Pendles and Swan in their careers have had multiple seasons of 120+

Now Rocky may go on a tear and average above 120 again but yet again history says he starts the season slow and comes home with a wet sail.

The unknown of how the new additions will affect the points distribution in the Brisbane Mids is the main reason not to pick him early IMO.

History and the new additions mean I cannot pick Rocky to start the season. His price IMO is not relevant at this stage.
How many players have gone 130+ and not backed it up the year after though? ;)

All 4 of them. GAJ has done it once but failed once too. The other 3 didn't even go close the next year.
Out of curiosity, who were the other 3?

Luke Hodge 2005 went 135.3, dropped to 103.6 in 2006
Jonathon Brown 2006 went 140.5, dropped to 111.3 in 2007
Chris Judd 2006 went 131.8, dropped to 106.4 in 2007
Rockliff 2014 went 132 avg, ? in 2015
Ablett has gone 130+ in 2008,2009, 2012 and 2014

Barry Hall went at 131.8 (22 games) then 117.7 (22 games) too.

Did they bounce back after the fall?

Hodge 135, 104, 111
Brown 140, 111, 100
Judd 132, 106, 110
Hall 132, 118, 79
Goddard 130, 108, 101
Real GOAT 132, 140, 129, 127, 138, 129, 137, 115
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: meow meow on December 22, 2015, 11:44:43 PM
Still hasn't shown that he can score well with a fit Beams in the team.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: shaker on December 23, 2015, 10:06:26 AM
Quote from: meow meow on December 22, 2015, 11:44:43 PM
Still hasn't shown that he can score well with a fit Beams in the team.

I don't care who is in the team with him look at his last 6 scores this year he is a gun , goat whatever people choose to call him I'm just hoping a lot of people are thinking like you and don't choose him  :P
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Holz on December 23, 2015, 10:17:54 AM
Not sure we need two threads about Todd Goldstein.


Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Grufflez on December 23, 2015, 11:44:26 PM
Quote from: meow meow on December 22, 2015, 11:44:43 PM
Still hasn't shown that he can score well with a fit Beams in the team.

I have said this as well, people expecting 130 from him might be shocked but at 550k anything over 110 is a win, and Beams was missing in all but one of Rocky's massive games which was like a mid 120' from memory Shaker. Filthy ball pigs don't change though  :P
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: shaker on December 24, 2015, 10:34:10 AM
Quote from: Grufflez on December 23, 2015, 11:44:26 PM
Quote from: meow meow on December 22, 2015, 11:44:43 PM
Still hasn't shown that he can score well with a fit Beams in the team.

I have said this as well, people expecting 130 from him might be shocked but at 550k anything over 110 is a win, and Beams was missing in all but one of Rocky's massive games which was like a mid 120' from memory Shaker. Filthy ball pigs don't change though  :P

Exactly filthy ball pigs don't change and if you worry about Beams stealing his points then both Selwoods and Dangers scoring will be affected and I have seen people saying Pendles will improve with Treloar there to share the burden  :o ? makes no sense to me just pick the best scoring players I say  ;)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Grufflez on December 24, 2015, 03:42:17 PM
Guys like Pendles and Selwood have great scoring histories playing alongside other good mids i reckon Pendles will love playing alongside more talent in an up and coming team, lock him in.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on December 31, 2015, 03:53:27 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 23, 2015, 10:17:54 AM
Not sure we need two threads about Todd Goldstein.
Disappointed that you didn't refer to him as Todd GOATstein tbh
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Holz on December 31, 2015, 04:42:18 PM
Quote from: GoLions on December 31, 2015, 03:53:27 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 23, 2015, 10:17:54 AM
Not sure we need two threads about Todd Goldstein.
Disappointed that you didn't refer to him as Todd GOATstein tbh

His name has gold in it thats good enough

however probably should be Todd Platinumstein
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: fanTCfool on December 31, 2015, 07:46:52 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 31, 2015, 04:42:18 PM
Quote from: GoLions on December 31, 2015, 03:53:27 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 23, 2015, 10:17:54 AM
Not sure we need two threads about Todd Goldstein.
Disappointed that you didn't refer to him as Todd GOATstein tbh

His name has gold in it thats good enough

however probably should be Todd Platinumstein

Could be Todd COLDstein next year, but that is yet to be determined and I shall not speculate.

Back on topic, Rocky is a lock for mine. Someone mentioned that we hadn't seen him with a fit Beams, but we really didn't see a fully fit Rocky this year either, absolute magnet and will be for some time.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: meow meow on April 03, 2016, 01:48:42 PM
flower this guy. Always plays shower when I pick him, kills it when I don't. I'm trading him to Higgins via DPP.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: kilbluff1985 on April 03, 2016, 02:33:28 PM
Quote from: meow meow on April 03, 2016, 01:48:42 PM
flower this guy. Always plays shower when I pick him, kills it when I don't. I'm trading him to Higgins via DPP.

thanks
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Holz on April 03, 2016, 02:42:05 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on December 31, 2015, 07:46:52 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 31, 2015, 04:42:18 PM
Quote from: GoLions on December 31, 2015, 03:53:27 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 23, 2015, 10:17:54 AM
Not sure we need two threads about Todd Goldstein.
Disappointed that you didn't refer to him as Todd GOATstein tbh

His name has gold in it thats good enough

however probably should be Todd Platinumstein

Could be Todd COLDstein next year, but that is yet to be determined and I shall not speculate.

Back on topic, Rocky is a lock for mine. Someone mentioned that we hadn't seen him with a fit Beams, but we really didn't see a fully fit Rocky this year either, absolute magnet and will be for some time.

Coldy looking good
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: fanTCfool on April 03, 2016, 05:20:31 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 03, 2016, 02:42:05 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on December 31, 2015, 07:46:52 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 31, 2015, 04:42:18 PM
Quote from: GoLions on December 31, 2015, 03:53:27 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 23, 2015, 10:17:54 AM
Not sure we need two threads about Todd Goldstein.
Disappointed that you didn't refer to him as Todd GOATstein tbh

His name has gold in it thats good enough

however probably should be Todd Platinumstein

Could be Todd COLDstein next year, but that is yet to be determined and I shall not speculate.

Back on topic, Rocky is a lock for mine. Someone mentioned that we hadn't seen him with a fit Beams, but we really didn't see a fully fit Rocky this year either, absolute magnet and will be for some time.

Coldy looking good

Rocky, not so much  :-[
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: bottlemart on April 03, 2016, 08:14:23 PM
Gets injured often
Overated
Always missing games
Tease for Supercoach's
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: sammy123 on April 03, 2016, 09:42:54 PM
yeah this guy is not the GOAT
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: smashbox on April 04, 2016, 12:31:56 PM
Are people really going to trade him out?

Im still 50/50. I mean it is Rocky! surely he will come good.

Hes carrying an injury but it would be a waste to trade him and then he finds form which he surely will.

Would be best if he just had a week off then came back fresh. What are the injuries he is carrying?
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: steven3 on April 04, 2016, 12:43:05 PM
With no preseason i feel his fitness base isnt there and he wont be pumping out those high scores for a few weeks even with a week off. Sure he will come good eventually but can you wait that long with a few sub-par scores.
Im trading purely cause i can grab the goat himself.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: sammy123 on April 04, 2016, 01:38:04 PM
Quote from: smashbox on April 04, 2016, 12:31:56 PM
Are people really going to trade him out?

Im still 50/50. I mean it is Rocky! surely he will come good.

Hes carrying an injury but it would be a waste to trade him and then he finds form which he surely will.

Would be best if he just had a week off then came back fresh. What are the injuries he is carrying?

it is rocky. But no preseason hasn't helped. he is good but he's no ablett who had no preseason as well and is still playing decent footy
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: bottlemart on April 04, 2016, 02:10:02 PM
My midfield is Ablett, Danger, Fyfe, Crouch x 2, Mills, Hewitt, and Rocky.  Rocky is averaging the least of that group, 68.  He is ahead of my 3 bench rookies only.   

As Sammy rightly points out, Rocky is no Ablett, the great man Ablett had no preseason, but hes still getting it done.  Rocky needs to perform better, 68 ave over 2 games isn't good enough. 

I have Dunkley, Davis and Gresham on the bench and I missed Libba, my bad, I took Libba out on the morning of the dogs v freo game on an article in the paper saying where the coach said he wouldn't influence games early, I put Dunkley in instead, but the upside is I now have cash to go Gresham to Libba, so that is the only way Rocky survives the cut in my team. It comes down to Rocky or Gresham on the chopping block.  One mid must go this week for Libba.  I don't see any other options. If Rocky can stay injury free and average 100 plus, then I guess he stays, but its a close call, but only because of how badly Gresham is going.  Dunkley going only marginally better, but he is cheaper and I'm happier to carry Dunk.  Davis doing his job for $102k.  Both crouch boys doing ok, happy enough with them, 86 and 77 ave, both due for price rise this week.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: meow meow on May 08, 2016, 07:29:30 PM
Quote from: meow meow on April 03, 2016, 01:48:42 PM
flower this guy. Always plays shower when I pick him, kills it when I don't. I'm trading him to Higgins via DPP.

Brought him back in for Gray this week, even made him captain. flower this guy!
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Locinator on May 08, 2016, 07:54:54 PM
I've probably spent a seasons worth of trades on this bloke over the years, but I'll still get sucked in next year.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on May 08, 2016, 08:07:08 PM
One year wonder

Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: shaker on May 08, 2016, 08:14:09 PM
He is having a bad run with injuries he will be back and everyone cursing him and saying never again will once again pick him  ;)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: fanTCfool on May 08, 2016, 08:32:47 PM
Just put a line through him and save yourself the trouble
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: timmyparso on May 08, 2016, 08:44:19 PM
Back to the flowering bench  >:(

Refuse to trade out as i know I'll get sucked back in. Will be too cheap to resist.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: nas on May 08, 2016, 08:49:55 PM
(https://www.rightthisminute.com/sites/default/files/videos/images/frostie-the-snow-goat-edgars-mission-farm-sanctuary-leo-trotsky-hind-legs-cute-video.jpg)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: no eye deer on May 08, 2016, 08:52:08 PM
Well at least I haven't traded him back in again, like last year. Only cost me one trade this time around.

PS: Nas, that's funny as f@&k!!
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: dottman on May 08, 2016, 09:12:41 PM
Nas may have posted the GOAT response.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: crowls on May 08, 2016, 09:23:19 PM
Quote from: no eye deer on May 08, 2016, 08:52:08 PM
Well at least I haven't traded him back in again, like last year. Only cost me one trade this time around.

PS: Nas, that's funny as f@&k!!
+1   Perhaps AFL can put this up as his picture!!  You know to remind us what he actually looks like.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: bottlemart on May 08, 2016, 09:30:05 PM
Quote from: bottlemart on April 03, 2016, 08:14:23 PM
Gets injured often
Overated
Always missing games
Tease for Supercoach's
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: crowls on May 08, 2016, 09:59:21 PM
Quote from: bottlemart on May 08, 2016, 09:30:05 PM
Quote from: bottlemart on April 03, 2016, 08:14:23 PM
Gets injured often
Overated
Always missing games
Tease for Supercoach's
Didnt have him in SC was due next week.    Did have him in RDT and AFL and C in both so didnt avoid the carnage.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: SydneyRox on May 08, 2016, 10:04:21 PM
LUKE PARKER
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on May 09, 2016, 12:00:41 PM
Quote from: timmyparso on May 08, 2016, 08:44:19 PM
Back to the flowering bench  >:(

Refuse to trade out as i know I'll get sucked back in. Will be too cheap to resist.

Will hold probably out for 3 weeks. As long as he's ready for the byes.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: sammy123 on May 09, 2016, 12:12:49 PM
MAX GAWN IS THE NEW GOAT.

F U C K rocky
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: elephants on May 10, 2016, 02:41:14 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 08, 2016, 08:07:08 PM
One year wonder

Monstrous call haha
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Dudge on May 10, 2016, 03:29:38 PM
Quote from: nas on May 08, 2016, 08:49:55 PM
(https://www.rightthisminute.com/sites/default/files/videos/images/frostie-the-snow-goat-edgars-mission-farm-sanctuary-leo-trotsky-hind-legs-cute-video.jpg)

That'll be me in a year or so   :(
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on May 10, 2016, 04:24:12 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 10, 2016, 02:41:14 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 08, 2016, 08:07:08 PM
One year wonder

Monstrous call haha

Referring to his year of 132

I'm sure he can average 110+, but just carries way too much risk now. I'd rather pay a little more and grab someone much more less risky
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on May 10, 2016, 04:27:05 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 10, 2016, 04:24:12 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 10, 2016, 02:41:14 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 08, 2016, 08:07:08 PM
One year wonder

Monstrous call haha

Referring to his year of 132

I'm sure he can average 110+, but just carries way too much risk now. I'd rather pay a little more and grab someone much more less risky
"much more less risky"

Sorry RD, but can't take what you're saying seriously anymore

I dare anyone not to pick up Rocky when he gets to like 400k!
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: elephants on May 10, 2016, 04:34:48 PM
Haha I lol'd at that too.

I don't think another year of 125+ is out of the question when he gets his body right.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Big Mac on May 10, 2016, 04:42:19 PM
Quote from: sammy123 on May 09, 2016, 12:12:49 PM
MAX GAWN IS THE NEW GOAT.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Asparagus on May 10, 2016, 04:47:23 PM
GOAT is now a TB


Trade Burner
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on May 10, 2016, 06:31:22 PM
Quote from: GoLions on May 10, 2016, 04:27:05 PM

"much more less risky"

Sorry RD, but can't take what you're saying seriously anymore

I dare anyone not to pick up Rocky when he gets to like 400k!

At 400k of course I would take a shot

Not at 550k

Quote from: elephants on May 10, 2016, 04:34:48 PM
Haha I lol'd at that too.

I don't think another year of 125+ is out of the question when he gets his body right.

I'll call it now - he won't play a full year at 125+ ever again

Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: shaker on May 10, 2016, 06:44:08 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 10, 2016, 06:31:22 PM
Quote from: GoLions on May 10, 2016, 04:27:05 PM

"much more less risky"

Sorry RD, but can't take what you're saying seriously anymore

I dare anyone not to pick up Rocky when he gets to like 400k!

At 400k of course I would take a shot

Not at 550k

Quote from: elephants on May 10, 2016, 04:34:48 PM
Haha I lol'd at that too.

I don't think another year of 125+ is out of the question when he gets his body right.

I'll call it now - he won't play a full year at 125+ ever again



Ha ha brave call at 26 years of age he is in his prime
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Raiden on May 10, 2016, 08:08:44 PM
When he eventually comes back from injury, strings a few games together & plummets to low 400's I'm trading him in - Be a great M9/Loophole option with Libba.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: crowls on May 10, 2016, 08:12:53 PM
Quote from: Raiden on May 10, 2016, 08:08:44 PM
When he eventually comes back from injury, strings a few games together & plummets to low 400's I'm trading him in - Be a great M9/Loophole option with Libba.
Not even a thought at the moment,   Gray, Priddis available before I look at Rocky again.    Maybe luxury trade at some stage.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on May 10, 2016, 08:43:29 PM
Quote from: Raiden on May 10, 2016, 08:08:44 PM
When he eventually comes back from injury, strings a few games together & plummets to low 400's I'm trading him in - Be a great M9/Loophole option with Libba.

BE still very achievable.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on June 04, 2016, 04:08:40 PM
Shun the non-believers

Shunnn

Shunnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Raiden on June 04, 2016, 04:12:10 PM
He will be back in everyone's team next week, once again! Lol
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: _wato on June 04, 2016, 04:18:12 PM
Flower, 111 in a half?
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: timmyparso on June 04, 2016, 04:18:59 PM
VC this week  8)

111 half time  :o
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on June 04, 2016, 04:19:09 PM
Quote from: _wato on June 04, 2016, 04:18:12 PM
Flower, 111 in a half?
Yeah, still a bit rusty in his first game back unfortunately
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: shaker on June 04, 2016, 04:20:51 PM
Quote from: timmyparso on June 04, 2016, 04:18:59 PM
VC this week  8)

111 half time  :o

Well done on that  :) but I will need more convincing he is not going to break down again
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 04, 2016, 05:27:48 PM
2 of his recent scores vs Carlton have been 145 and 182 so clearly he does very well vs them. Will be interested to see how he goes  in the next few weeks

Freo next week  :-X
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Jimmykidd on June 04, 2016, 05:58:05 PM
You're not sucking me in again rocky.

OK I'll trade you back in..
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Gigantor on June 04, 2016, 05:59:21 PM
We have a new leader for the year, 204SC .... un-flowering-believable
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: batt on June 04, 2016, 06:05:45 PM
As the old saying goes: fool me 5 times, shame on you.  Fool me 6 times, shame on me.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on June 04, 2016, 06:06:57 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 04, 2016, 05:27:48 PM
2 of his recent scores vs Carlton have been 145 and 182 so clearly he does very well vs them. Will be interested to see how he goes  in the next few weeks

Freo next week  :-X

Different Freo, don't think he'll struggle at all.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on June 04, 2016, 06:08:12 PM
Quote from: Bully on June 04, 2016, 06:06:57 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 04, 2016, 05:27:48 PM
2 of his recent scores vs Carlton have been 145 and 182 so clearly he does very well vs them. Will be interested to see how he goes  in the next few weeks

Freo next week  :-X

Different Freo, don't think he'll struggle at all.
His last 2 against Freo are 168 and 158 ;)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 04, 2016, 06:09:26 PM
Quote from: Bully on June 04, 2016, 06:06:57 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 04, 2016, 05:27:48 PM
2 of his recent scores vs Carlton have been 145 and 182 so clearly he does very well vs them. Will be interested to see how he goes  in the next few weeks

Freo next week  :-X

Different Freo, don't think he'll struggle at all.

Freo next week  :-X I guess I was implying he could go huge again!

This guy is the ultimate tease, capable of so much heartache whether you have him or don't
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Big Mac on June 04, 2016, 06:09:29 PM
Quote from: Bully on June 04, 2016, 06:06:57 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 04, 2016, 05:27:48 PM
2 of his recent scores vs Carlton have been 145 and 182 so clearly he does very well vs them. Will be interested to see how he goes  in the next few weeks

Freo next week  :-X

Different Freo, don't think he'll struggle at all.

Don't think RD was suggesting rocky would struggle

Rocky racked up 45 against them twice in 2014, didn't play them last year though



Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on June 04, 2016, 06:10:12 PM
Quote from: GoLions on June 04, 2016, 06:08:12 PM
Quote from: Bully on June 04, 2016, 06:06:57 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 04, 2016, 05:27:48 PM
2 of his recent scores vs Carlton have been 145 and 182 so clearly he does very well vs them. Will be interested to see how he goes  in the next few weeks

Freo next week  :-X

Different Freo, don't think he'll struggle at all.
His last 2 against Freo are 168 and 158 ;)

There you go, glad I held him all that time.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Raiden on June 04, 2016, 06:10:28 PM
His back in next week, what else could go worse in SC 2016!  ::)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 04, 2016, 06:12:31 PM
With this 204 in his rolling average, we're going to have to make a call on him this week aren't we?

Shower, I said I need to see some consistency from him before I ever considered him again but flower me 200+ and his price next week might be worth it

Looking like it will be very hard for me to get 600k mids into my side, so a cheap Rocky might be worth it now

Genuine love hate relationship with Rocky!
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: fanTCfool on June 04, 2016, 06:16:54 PM
If I bring him in, I feel like I'll be saying never again, again.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Gigantor on June 04, 2016, 06:19:23 PM
If he gets 140 in his next 2 matches he will be back up to 600k  :P
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: sammy123 on June 04, 2016, 06:23:43 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 04, 2016, 06:12:31 PM
With this 204 in his rolling average, we're going to have to make a call on him this week aren't we?

Shower, I said I need to see some consistency from him before I ever considered him again but flower me 200+ and his price next week might be worth it

Looking like it will be very hard for me to get 600k mids into my side, so a cheap Rocky might be worth it now

Genuine love hate relationship with Rocky!

im not ready to make a call on him yet. i know the scores he can get are amazing to have. but i feel i will bring him in and he will get injured. what to do. what to do
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Blues Blues Blues on June 04, 2016, 06:24:16 PM
Was going to trade Brad Crouch to Gray, but now I'm thinking I might hold off and trade in Rocky next week instead. I don't think I can get him next week otherwise, unless I trade out Libba?!
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Gigantor on June 04, 2016, 06:34:26 PM
Bugger just realised he has the Rd15 bye, oh well that makes the decision easier I won't be touching him, already have 8 rd15 premos
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: barlowlove on June 04, 2016, 06:36:35 PM
I love the man, can't say no at this price! upgrade this week was going to be kerridge to hanners but now likely to be M.Brown to Rocky via DPP's
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Big Mac on June 04, 2016, 06:37:56 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on June 04, 2016, 06:34:26 PM
Bugger just realised he has the Rd15 bye, oh well that makes the decision easier I won't be touching him, already have 8 rd15 premos

Who cares what bye he is if he is scoring double tons
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: ants on June 04, 2016, 07:34:34 PM
how much will he be?
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Big Mac on June 04, 2016, 07:47:53 PM
Quote from: ants on June 04, 2016, 07:34:34 PM
how much will he be?

more than you can afford pal
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Raiden on June 04, 2016, 07:49:39 PM
I think around $500K
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: ants on June 04, 2016, 08:18:38 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on June 04, 2016, 07:47:53 PM
Quote from: ants on June 04, 2016, 07:34:34 PM
how much will he be?

more than you can afford pal
thanks for that champ!
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: ants on June 04, 2016, 08:20:52 PM
Quote from: Raiden on June 04, 2016, 07:49:39 PM
I think around $500K
yea that would be about right! just wanted a more exact figure!
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Torpedo10 on June 04, 2016, 08:24:43 PM
Better to hit up Jelly I'd think.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on June 04, 2016, 08:26:37 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on June 04, 2016, 08:24:43 PM
Better to hit up Jelly I'd think.
Pfft, says the guy who didn't start Goldy OR Shaw :P

Don't listen to him! Rocky is love, Rocky is life.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on June 04, 2016, 08:32:01 PM
Quote from: GoLions on June 04, 2016, 08:26:37 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on June 04, 2016, 08:24:43 PM
Better to hit up Jelly I'd think.
Pfft, says the guy who didn't start Goldy OR Shaw :P

Don't listen to him! Rocky is love, Rocky is life.

;D This week has made up for all the heartache of the last month.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Torpedo10 on June 04, 2016, 08:32:14 PM
Quote from: GoLions on June 04, 2016, 08:26:37 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on June 04, 2016, 08:24:43 PM
Better to hit up Jelly I'd think.
Pfft, says the guy who didn't start Goldy OR Shaw :P

Don't listen to him! Rocky is love, Rocky is life.
Yeah I didn't start with Goldy or Shaw.

But I DID start with Rocky.  ::)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: dicko_ on June 05, 2016, 12:49:48 AM
Quote from: ants on June 04, 2016, 08:20:52 PM
Quote from: Raiden on June 04, 2016, 07:49:39 PM
I think around $500K
yea that would be about right! just wanted a more exact figure!

Tooserious says he will be about 492k.

Very speculative bringing him in today, but guessing he won't be unique for now.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: ronl on June 05, 2016, 09:26:44 AM
Rocky and Gaz both "ripping it up", it's just like old times!!
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Locinator on June 05, 2016, 10:32:35 AM
*Sees Rockys score"
*Rolls U2*

I can't livvvvvvve, with or withouuuuut you
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Torpedo10 on June 05, 2016, 10:33:27 AM
Quote from: Locinator on June 05, 2016, 10:32:35 AM
*Sees Rockys score"
*Rolls U2*

I can't livvvvvvve, with or withouuuuut you
Damn that's a perfect line.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on June 05, 2016, 10:53:58 AM
Quote from: ronl on June 05, 2016, 09:26:44 AM
Rocky and Gaz both "ripping it up", it's just like old times!!

The old firm are back, Rocky, Selwood & Gaz.

Something tells me Libba to Rocky will be the most popular trade this week.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Jesty on June 05, 2016, 11:22:04 AM
Don't  forget Pendles too.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on July 24, 2016, 05:33:14 PM
Averaging a tick over 130 since returning from injury.

Rocky, I must have you this instant. (not talking SC)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Blues Blues Blues on July 24, 2016, 07:34:38 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 24, 2016, 05:33:14 PM
Averaging a tick over 130 since returning from injury.

Rocky, I must have you this instant. (not talking SC)

lol
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Cambo on July 24, 2016, 08:48:19 PM
He is greart........... Till he breaks down again next week  :-*
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: King_Robbo on July 25, 2016, 12:40:36 AM
Quote from: Bully on June 05, 2016, 10:53:58 AM
Quote from: ronl on June 05, 2016, 09:26:44 AM
Rocky and Gaz both "ripping it up", it's just like old times!!

The old firm are back, Rocky, Selwood & Gaz.

Something tells me Libba to Rocky will be the most popular trade this week.

Really? Going to cost you a fair chunk of $$
I don't think teams have 2 trades for upgrades now..
I'm so glad I trusted my gut and offloaded him for Rocky in Rd 13.. Cost $15k from memory!
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: fanTCfool on July 25, 2016, 01:01:51 AM
Quote from: King_Robbo on July 25, 2016, 12:40:36 AM
Quote from: Bully on June 05, 2016, 10:53:58 AM
Quote from: ronl on June 05, 2016, 09:26:44 AM
Rocky and Gaz both "ripping it up", it's just like old times!!

The old firm are back, Rocky, Selwood & Gaz.

Something tells me Libba to Rocky will be the most popular trade this week.

Really? Going to cost you a fair chunk of $$
I don't think teams have 2 trades for upgrades now..
I'm so glad I trusted my gut and offloaded him for Rocky in Rd 13.. Cost $15k from memory!

Wake up Robbo that post was from 6/7 weeks ago
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: _wato on July 25, 2016, 11:19:20 AM
Quote from: fanTCfool on July 25, 2016, 01:01:51 AM
Quote from: King_Robbo on July 25, 2016, 12:40:36 AM
Quote from: Bully on June 05, 2016, 10:53:58 AM
Quote from: ronl on June 05, 2016, 09:26:44 AM
Rocky and Gaz both "ripping it up", it's just like old times!!

The old firm are back, Rocky, Selwood & Gaz.

Something tells me Libba to Rocky will be the most popular trade this week.

Really? Going to cost you a fair chunk of $$
I don't think teams have 2 trades for upgrades now..
I'm so glad I trusted my gut and offloaded him for Rocky in Rd 13.. Cost $15k from memory!

Wake up Robbo that post was from 6/7 weeks ago

LOL
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on December 07, 2016, 11:21:54 PM
First picked for 2017.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: PowerBug on December 07, 2016, 11:26:26 PM
Why is there a Nathan Lyon thread in the SC section?
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: nrich102 on December 08, 2016, 12:23:36 AM
Quote from: PowerBug on December 07, 2016, 11:26:26 PM
Why is there a Nathan Lyon thread in the SC section?
BOWLING GARRY
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on March 29, 2017, 11:36:33 AM
Quote from: GoLions on December 07, 2016, 11:21:54 PM
First picked for 2017.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: sammy123 on March 29, 2017, 01:59:14 PM
Quote from: GoLions on March 29, 2017, 11:36:33 AM
Quote from: GoLions on December 07, 2016, 11:21:54 PM
First picked for 2017.

was my 2nd picked after danger
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Sabretooth Tigers on March 29, 2017, 04:46:57 PM
 :)

M.4  for me  followed by Bont,  Fyfe,  Beams  and  O'Meara.

;)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: _wato on March 29, 2017, 11:27:34 PM
Quote from: GoLions on March 29, 2017, 11:36:33 AM
Quote from: GoLions on December 07, 2016, 11:21:54 PM
First picked for 2017.

Glad I held the faith.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Mongoose528 on March 29, 2017, 11:51:11 PM
Quote from: _wato on March 29, 2017, 11:27:34 PM
Quote from: GoLions on March 29, 2017, 11:36:33 AM
Quote from: GoLions on December 07, 2016, 11:21:54 PM
First picked for 2017.

Glad I held the faith.

In before a season ending injury.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Grufflez on March 31, 2017, 12:56:14 AM
I am still dubious. but it's gonna be weird hoping for an injury every week if after a month he is holding this standard.
Need Beams to improve and steal more of his points  :P
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on April 17, 2017, 02:52:04 PM
"Rocky and Beams and Zorko have basically never played in the same team before"

"Beams will steal points from Rocky"

"Rocky won't average over 110"

"blah blah blah blah"

GOAT.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: tommy10 on April 17, 2017, 03:02:39 PM
Had him from the start. Was my M3 locked in. Just hope he's fine next week as he dislocated his finger, but played out the game.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Torpedo10 on April 17, 2017, 03:06:01 PM
Just like big Stef Martin.

I start them in the seasons they're bad. :P
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: WizzFizz on April 17, 2017, 03:14:13 PM
goat
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on April 17, 2017, 08:23:58 PM
Want Rocky!
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Mat0369 on April 17, 2017, 08:24:35 PM
Got Rocky!
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: _wato on April 17, 2017, 08:25:43 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on April 17, 2017, 08:24:35 PM
Got Rocky!
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Mat0369 on April 17, 2017, 08:26:52 PM
Quote from: _wato on April 17, 2017, 08:25:43 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on April 17, 2017, 08:24:35 PM
Got Rocky!

Glad I talked you into it now?  :P
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: elephants on April 17, 2017, 08:27:03 PM
So GOAT it hurts
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: _wato on April 17, 2017, 08:28:28 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on April 17, 2017, 08:26:52 PM
Quote from: _wato on April 17, 2017, 08:25:43 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on April 17, 2017, 08:24:35 PM
Got Rocky!

Glad I talked you into it now?  :P

You and GL, both legends!! So glad though hahaha, thanks again mate ;)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on April 17, 2017, 08:42:36 PM
Quote from: _wato on April 17, 2017, 08:28:28 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on April 17, 2017, 08:26:52 PM
Quote from: _wato on April 17, 2017, 08:25:43 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on April 17, 2017, 08:24:35 PM
Got Rocky!

Glad I talked you into it now?  :P

You and GL, both legends!! So glad though hahaha, thanks again mate ;)
;)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Marstar on April 18, 2017, 12:56:50 AM
Quote from: _wato on April 17, 2017, 08:25:43 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on April 17, 2017, 08:24:35 PM
Got Rocky!
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on May 09, 2017, 08:04:26 PM
Mmmm <3
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: batt on May 09, 2017, 08:24:57 PM
he's ok.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on May 13, 2017, 04:32:22 PM
Every week I don't have this guy is killing me

Absolutely the first guy coming in after RD11
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bluesalltheway on May 13, 2017, 04:35:07 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 13, 2017, 04:32:22 PM
Every week I don't have this guy is killing me

Absolutely the first guy coming in after RD11

+1
It's seriously tempting to pick him up before his bye
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Judd Magic on May 13, 2017, 04:40:18 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 13, 2017, 04:32:22 PM
Every week I don't have this guy is killing me

Absolutely the first guy coming in after RD11

Got him in this week and chucked the big C on him.  8)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on May 13, 2017, 04:52:14 PM
Had him in my team all week and then McNiece didn't get the call-up. Sums up my luck this year.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on May 13, 2017, 04:53:35 PM
I can barely contain myself.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Judd Magic on May 13, 2017, 04:58:08 PM
Quote from: GoLions on May 13, 2017, 04:53:35 PM
I can barely contain myself.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: tommy10 on May 13, 2017, 05:06:40 PM
Quote from: Judd Magic on May 13, 2017, 04:58:08 PM
Quote from: GoLions on May 13, 2017, 04:53:35 PM
I can barely contain myself.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on May 13, 2017, 05:29:07 PM
Rocky injured?
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: sammy123 on May 13, 2017, 05:29:49 PM
Quote from: Bully on May 13, 2017, 05:29:07 PM
Rocky injured?

dislocated shoulder by looks of it
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on May 13, 2017, 05:31:45 PM
Quote from: sammy123 on May 13, 2017, 05:29:49 PM
Quote from: Bully on May 13, 2017, 05:29:07 PM
Rocky injured?

dislocated shoulder by looks of it

Sounds like weeks.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: _wato on May 13, 2017, 05:32:54 PM
With 2 minutes to go, flower sake.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Gigantor on May 13, 2017, 05:34:10 PM
Quote from: Bully on May 13, 2017, 05:31:45 PM
Quote from: sammy123 on May 13, 2017, 05:29:49 PM
Quote from: Bully on May 13, 2017, 05:29:07 PM
Rocky injured?

dislocated shoulder by looks of it

Sounds like weeks.

Suicide watch for GL  ;D
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Torpedo10 on May 13, 2017, 05:35:14 PM
Was going to trade him in, but figured every time I have him he gets injured so grabbed Zerrett to embrace my GL-like bias.

Turns out Rocky still thought I'd traded him in.  :-[
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: colmullet on May 13, 2017, 05:35:49 PM
just got him in, he can go the way of Beams and Treloar on my bench it seems lol, one of those years
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: sammy123 on May 13, 2017, 05:38:40 PM
depends if there is any ligiment damage. if its somehow a tiny injury i'll hold
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on May 13, 2017, 05:38:59 PM
...
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on May 13, 2017, 05:39:29 PM
Now I remember why I don't have Rocky :P

Will get him after his yearly injury has healed ;)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on May 13, 2017, 05:42:27 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 13, 2017, 05:39:29 PM
Now I remember why I don't have Rocky :P

Will get him after his yearly injury has healed ;)

Will still be the same price due to high BE. 30 minutes ago I was cursing my luck, now I feel I've dodged a bullet.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: _wato on May 13, 2017, 05:44:12 PM
How do we know how long he's out for though?
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on May 13, 2017, 05:46:37 PM
Quote from: _wato on May 13, 2017, 05:44:12 PM
How do we know how long he's out for though?

If they can pop the shoulder back in then it may only be 1 week.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Gigantor on May 13, 2017, 05:51:04 PM
Quote from: Bully on May 13, 2017, 05:46:37 PM
Quote from: _wato on May 13, 2017, 05:44:12 PM
How do we know how long he's out for though?

If they can pop the shoulder back in then it may only be 1 week.

Round 11 bye, would be very surprised if he plays before that...
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: fanTCfool on May 13, 2017, 05:53:13 PM
Quote from: Bully on May 13, 2017, 05:42:27 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 13, 2017, 05:39:29 PM
Now I remember why I don't have Rocky :P

Will get him after his yearly injury has healed ;)

Will still be the same price due to high BE. 30 minutes ago I was cursing my luck, now I feel I've dodged a bullet.

Much the same fellas, some things are meant to be  ;)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Judd Magic on May 13, 2017, 05:54:28 PM
FFS!  :'(

Traded Rocky in this week for Trelolar and he gets injured with 2 mins to go.  >:(

At this rate Trelolar will be back before Rocky and scoring 150's again.  ::)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Gigantor on May 13, 2017, 06:08:22 PM
Quote from: Judd Magic on May 13, 2017, 05:54:28 PM
FFS!  :'(

Traded Rocky in this week for Trelolar and he gets injured with 2 mins to go.  >:(

At this rate Trelolar will be back before Rocky and scoring 150's again.  ::)

Karma for all that hate you have been throwing Treloars way JM  ;D
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: no eye deer on May 13, 2017, 06:11:29 PM
FMSCL!!!!

Hope it's not too serious. At least it wasn't the first quarter.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Rusty00 on May 13, 2017, 06:12:50 PM
Simple solution, trade him to Beams ;D
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Judd Magic on May 13, 2017, 06:15:53 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on May 13, 2017, 06:08:22 PM
Quote from: Judd Magic on May 13, 2017, 05:54:28 PM
FFS!  :'(

Traded Rocky in this week for Trelolar and he gets injured with 2 mins to go.  >:(

At this rate Trelolar will be back before Rocky and scoring 150's again.  ::)

Karma for all that hate you have been throwing Treloars way JM  ;D

LOL!

Yeah probably.  ;D

Trelolar probably had a voodo doll in the form of Rocky and put a pin in its shoulder with 2 mins of the game left.  ::)

Damnu Trelolar!  >:(
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on May 13, 2017, 06:17:23 PM
Rocky to Selwood would be a good trade.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Judd Magic on May 13, 2017, 06:18:46 PM
Quote from: Bully on May 13, 2017, 06:17:23 PM
Rocky to Selwood would be a good trade.

I was going to bring in Selwood next week for Otten or Marchbank via Adams.

At this rate I am never going to complete my midfield!  >:(
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Ringo on May 13, 2017, 06:20:57 PM
Wait till we see extent of injury.

From the press conference

CF: (On Rocky) We don’t fully know yet. Shoulder did go back in, that’s a positive.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on May 13, 2017, 06:30:08 PM
Quote from: Ringo on May 13, 2017, 06:20:57 PM
Wait till we see extent of injury.

From the press conference

CF: (On Rocky) We don’t fully know yet. Shoulder did go back in, that’s a positive.

With the bye coming up I reckon it will be 2 weeks at a minimum. If back in round 12 I'd hold.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: batt on May 13, 2017, 06:41:06 PM
Quote from: Bully on May 13, 2017, 06:30:08 PM
Quote from: Ringo on May 13, 2017, 06:20:57 PM
Wait till we see extent of injury.

From the press conference

CF: (On Rocky) We don’t fully know yet. Shoulder did go back in, that’s a positive.

With the bye coming up I reckon it will be 2 weeks at a minimum. If back in round 12 I'd hold.
Missing 9-11 would give him 4 weeks to recover.  Sounds about right.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: no eye deer on May 13, 2017, 06:45:08 PM
Quote from: Judd Magic on May 13, 2017, 05:54:28 PM
FFS!  :'(

Traded Rocky in this week for Trelolar and he gets injured with 2 mins to go.  >:(

At this rate Trelolar will be back before Rocky and scoring 150's again.  ::)

Well I flowering hope so! Can't win a trick ATM.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: TomK on May 13, 2017, 06:50:10 PM
Was planning to bring him in after this week for WHE, that's a bullet dodged, although I do have him in other comps.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: King_Robbo on May 13, 2017, 06:55:11 PM
You never like seeing players injured but geez I dodged a bullet with Rocky this week. He'll miss at least 3-4 weeks which means those that hold will be loosing 50-60 points per game for that time as they have to play a rookie. That's huge overall...
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on May 13, 2017, 06:56:45 PM
For those without Rocky he'll be the perfect guy to bring in round 12, averaging 123 and under 600k.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on May 13, 2017, 06:57:49 PM
Quote from: King_Robbo on May 13, 2017, 06:55:11 PM
You never like seeing players injured but geez I dodged a bullet with Rocky this week. He'll miss at least 3-4 weeks which means those that hold will be loosing 50-60 points per game for that time as they have to play a rookie. That's huge overall...
I've got this Beams fella on my bench who i might be able to sub on next week, so hopefully don't lose too many points there.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Judd Magic on May 13, 2017, 07:02:16 PM
Quote from: King_Robbo on May 13, 2017, 06:55:11 PM
You never like seeing players injured but geez I dodged a bullet with Rocky this week. He'll miss at least 3-4 weeks which means those that hold will be loosing 50-60 points per game for that time as they have to play a rookie. That's huge overall...

Yeah unfortunately I will have to trade him.

Am going for overall atm too (1,127) aswell as leagues 1-4 in my cash league so I can't afford to play a rookie who only scores 50-60 points every week in his place for that long.

Will probably bring him back in after his bye is over though.  ::)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on May 13, 2017, 07:04:26 PM
Quote from: Judd Magic on May 13, 2017, 07:02:16 PM
Quote from: King_Robbo on May 13, 2017, 06:55:11 PM
You never like seeing players injured but geez I dodged a bullet with Rocky this week. He'll miss at least 3-4 weeks which means those that hold will be loosing 50-60 points per game for that time as they have to play a rookie. That's huge overall...

Yeah unfortunately I will have to trade him.

Am going for overall atm too (1,127) aswell as leagues 1-4 in my cash league so I can't afford to play a rookie who only scores 50-60 points every week in his place for that long.

Will probably bring him back in after his bye is over though.  ::)
Rocky to Treloar?
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: sammy123 on May 13, 2017, 07:07:59 PM
Quote from: GoLions on May 13, 2017, 07:04:26 PM
Quote from: Judd Magic on May 13, 2017, 07:02:16 PM
Quote from: King_Robbo on May 13, 2017, 06:55:11 PM
You never like seeing players injured but geez I dodged a bullet with Rocky this week. He'll miss at least 3-4 weeks which means those that hold will be loosing 50-60 points per game for that time as they have to play a rookie. That's huge overall...

Yeah unfortunately I will have to trade him.

Am going for overall atm too (1,127) aswell as leagues 1-4 in my cash league so I can't afford to play a rookie who only scores 50-60 points every week in his place for that long.

Will probably bring him back in after his bye is over though.  ::)
Rocky to Treloar?

he will do that
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: no eye deer on May 13, 2017, 07:08:39 PM
My overall is cooked, so I'm holding so far.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: batt on May 13, 2017, 07:11:03 PM
The bye means he is a must hold.  Make use of the fact he can recover during his bye.  Lucky in that sense.

Holding will lose you probably 100 points overall which he can make up in no time with the C on him.

And a trade ain't worth 100 points.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Mat0369 on May 13, 2017, 07:13:13 PM
GG, my team is ready for 2018 now.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Ringo on May 13, 2017, 07:16:57 PM
Great news maybe for those that were looking at getting him after the Rd 11 bye.  Price will fall a little this week and then stay the same.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Judd Magic on May 13, 2017, 07:46:06 PM
Quote from: Ringo on May 13, 2017, 07:16:57 PM
Great news maybe for those that were looking at getting him after the Rd 11 bye.  Price will fall a little this week and then stay the same.

His breakeven was 145 so wont be losing any cash.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Judd Magic on May 13, 2017, 07:47:31 PM
Quote from: GoLions on May 13, 2017, 07:04:26 PM
Quote from: Judd Magic on May 13, 2017, 07:02:16 PM
Quote from: King_Robbo on May 13, 2017, 06:55:11 PM
You never like seeing players injured but geez I dodged a bullet with Rocky this week. He'll miss at least 3-4 weeks which means those that hold will be loosing 50-60 points per game for that time as they have to play a rookie. That's huge overall...

Yeah unfortunately I will have to trade him.

Am going for overall atm too (1,127) aswell as leagues 1-4 in my cash league so I can't afford to play a rookie who only scores 50-60 points every week in his place for that long.

Will probably bring him back in after his bye is over though.  ::)
Rocky to Treloar?

Oh flowering hell no....  :o
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Judd Magic on May 13, 2017, 07:48:58 PM
Quote from: sammy123 on May 13, 2017, 07:07:59 PM
Quote from: GoLions on May 13, 2017, 07:04:26 PM
Quote from: Judd Magic on May 13, 2017, 07:02:16 PM
Quote from: King_Robbo on May 13, 2017, 06:55:11 PM
You never like seeing players injured but geez I dodged a bullet with Rocky this week. He'll miss at least 3-4 weeks which means those that hold will be loosing 50-60 points per game for that time as they have to play a rookie. That's huge overall...

Yeah unfortunately I will have to trade him.

Am going for overall atm too (1,127) aswell as leagues 1-4 in my cash league so I can't afford to play a rookie who only scores 50-60 points every week in his place for that long.

Will probably bring him back in after his bye is over though.  ::)
Rocky to Treloar?

he will do that

No way will I do that unless someone hacks into my account and does it. LOL!  ;D

Probably will get POD Cripps in.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Colliwobblers on May 13, 2017, 07:50:18 PM
i cant vote for any options in the poll, but god im glad i captained him in every format of fantasy footy again this week.

arguably the best pig/goat of all time I'll give him that much...
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on May 13, 2017, 08:01:36 PM
Quote from: Judd Magic on May 13, 2017, 07:48:58 PM
Quote from: sammy123 on May 13, 2017, 07:07:59 PM
Quote from: GoLions on May 13, 2017, 07:04:26 PM
Quote from: Judd Magic on May 13, 2017, 07:02:16 PM
Quote from: King_Robbo on May 13, 2017, 06:55:11 PM
You never like seeing players injured but geez I dodged a bullet with Rocky this week. He'll miss at least 3-4 weeks which means those that hold will be loosing 50-60 points per game for that time as they have to play a rookie. That's huge overall...

Yeah unfortunately I will have to trade him.

Am going for overall atm too (1,127) aswell as leagues 1-4 in my cash league so I can't afford to play a rookie who only scores 50-60 points every week in his place for that long.

Will probably bring him back in after his bye is over though.  ::)
Rocky to Treloar?

he will do that

No way will I do that unless someone hacks into my account and does it. LOL!  ;D

Probably will get POD Cripps in.

Rocky to Dusty and pocket some $$
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Judd Magic on May 13, 2017, 08:17:14 PM
Quote from: Bully on May 13, 2017, 08:01:36 PM
Quote from: Judd Magic on May 13, 2017, 07:48:58 PM
Quote from: sammy123 on May 13, 2017, 07:07:59 PM
Quote from: GoLions on May 13, 2017, 07:04:26 PM
Quote from: Judd Magic on May 13, 2017, 07:02:16 PM
Quote from: King_Robbo on May 13, 2017, 06:55:11 PM
You never like seeing players injured but geez I dodged a bullet with Rocky this week. He'll miss at least 3-4 weeks which means those that hold will be loosing 50-60 points per game for that time as they have to play a rookie. That's huge overall...

Yeah unfortunately I will have to trade him.

Am going for overall atm too (1,127) aswell as leagues 1-4 in my cash league so I can't afford to play a rookie who only scores 50-60 points every week in his place for that long.

Will probably bring him back in after his bye is over though.  ::)
Rocky to Treloar?

he will do that

No way will I do that unless someone hacks into my account and does it. LOL!  ;D

Probably will get POD Cripps in.

Rocky to Dusty and pocket some $$

I'm thinking Cripps as a POD mate instead.

What do you think?

Will still pocket about $90k.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on May 13, 2017, 08:18:46 PM
Quote from: Judd Magic on May 13, 2017, 08:17:14 PM
Quote from: Bully on May 13, 2017, 08:01:36 PM
Quote from: Judd Magic on May 13, 2017, 07:48:58 PM
Quote from: sammy123 on May 13, 2017, 07:07:59 PM
Quote from: GoLions on May 13, 2017, 07:04:26 PM
Quote from: Judd Magic on May 13, 2017, 07:02:16 PM
Quote from: King_Robbo on May 13, 2017, 06:55:11 PM
You never like seeing players injured but geez I dodged a bullet with Rocky this week. He'll miss at least 3-4 weeks which means those that hold will be loosing 50-60 points per game for that time as they have to play a rookie. That's huge overall...

Yeah unfortunately I will have to trade him.

Am going for overall atm too (1,127) aswell as leagues 1-4 in my cash league so I can't afford to play a rookie who only scores 50-60 points every week in his place for that long.

Will probably bring him back in after his bye is over though.  ::)
Rocky to Treloar?

he will do that

No way will I do that unless someone hacks into my account and does it. LOL!  ;D

Probably will get POD Cripps in.

Rocky to Dusty and pocket some $$

I'm thinking Cripps as a POD mate instead.

What do you think?

Will still pocket about $90k.

Dusty, he has the favourable bye and is due big time.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on May 13, 2017, 08:20:07 PM
Dusty is averaging crap for a month straight

Wouldnt touch him until he shows the first couple of games weren't a flash in the pan
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on May 13, 2017, 08:23:04 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 13, 2017, 08:20:07 PM
Dusty is averaging crap for a month straight

Wouldnt touch him until he shows the first couple of games weren't a flash in the pan

And that would be completely missing the point with Dusty.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Judd Magic on May 13, 2017, 08:32:42 PM
Quote from: Bully on May 13, 2017, 08:18:46 PM
Quote from: Judd Magic on May 13, 2017, 08:17:14 PM
Quote from: Bully on May 13, 2017, 08:01:36 PM
Quote from: Judd Magic on May 13, 2017, 07:48:58 PM
Quote from: sammy123 on May 13, 2017, 07:07:59 PM
Quote from: GoLions on May 13, 2017, 07:04:26 PM
Quote from: Judd Magic on May 13, 2017, 07:02:16 PM
Quote from: King_Robbo on May 13, 2017, 06:55:11 PM
You never like seeing players injured but geez I dodged a bullet with Rocky this week. He'll miss at least 3-4 weeks which means those that hold will be loosing 50-60 points per game for that time as they have to play a rookie. That's huge overall...

Yeah unfortunately I will have to trade him.

Am going for overall atm too (1,127) aswell as leagues 1-4 in my cash league so I can't afford to play a rookie who only scores 50-60 points every week in his place for that long.

Will probably bring him back in after his bye is over though.  ::)
Rocky to Treloar?

he will do that

No way will I do that unless someone hacks into my account and does it. LOL!  ;D

Probably will get POD Cripps in.

Rocky to Dusty and pocket some $$

I'm thinking Cripps as a POD mate instead.

What do you think?

Will still pocket about $90k.

Dusty, he has the favourable bye and is due big time.

I can afford to get a round 11 player in as my structure is still ok.

I reckon Cripps is only going to get better from here, the kid is a beast!
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on May 13, 2017, 08:34:00 PM
Quote from: Judd Magic on May 13, 2017, 08:32:42 PM
Quote from: Bully on May 13, 2017, 08:18:46 PM
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Quote from: Bully on May 13, 2017, 08:01:36 PM
Quote from: Judd Magic on May 13, 2017, 07:48:58 PM
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You never like seeing players injured but geez I dodged a bullet with Rocky this week. He'll miss at least 3-4 weeks which means those that hold will be loosing 50-60 points per game for that time as they have to play a rookie. That's huge overall...

Yeah unfortunately I will have to trade him.

Am going for overall atm too (1,127) aswell as leagues 1-4 in my cash league so I can't afford to play a rookie who only scores 50-60 points every week in his place for that long.

Will probably bring him back in after his bye is over though.  ::)
Rocky to Treloar?

he will do that

No way will I do that unless someone hacks into my account and does it. LOL!  ;D

Probably will get POD Cripps in.

Rocky to Dusty and pocket some $$

I'm thinking Cripps as a POD mate instead.

What do you think?

Will still pocket about $90k.

Dusty, he has the favourable bye and is due big time.

I can afford to get a round 11 player in as my structure is still ok.

I reckon Cripps is only going to get better from here, the kid is a beast!

Go with your gut then.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on May 13, 2017, 08:59:18 PM
Quote from: Bully on May 13, 2017, 08:23:04 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 13, 2017, 08:20:07 PM
Dusty is averaging crap for a month straight

Wouldnt touch him until he shows the first couple of games weren't a flash in the pan

And that would be completely missing the point with Dusty.

And the point is? Just because he has a good bye that's not enough. And he's cheap for a reason. 4 weeks in a row of 80's and 90's
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on May 13, 2017, 09:07:32 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 13, 2017, 08:59:18 PM
Quote from: Bully on May 13, 2017, 08:23:04 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 13, 2017, 08:20:07 PM
Dusty is averaging crap for a month straight

Wouldnt touch him until he shows the first couple of games weren't a flash in the pan

And that would be completely missing the point with Dusty.

And the point is? Just because he has a good bye that's not enough. And he's cheap for a reason. 4 weeks in a row of 80's and 90's

Dusty has a high standard deviation, has his whole career including last year when he was runners up in the Brownlow. You're suggesting we wait for his high points and then jump on when he bottoms out again.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on May 13, 2017, 09:12:59 PM
No, I'm suggesting you don't get him at all

Most of us have at least 6 prem mids now. With only two spots left surely there are much better options you'd want in your final 8?
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: tommy10 on May 14, 2017, 01:05:53 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 13, 2017, 09:12:59 PM
No, I'm suggesting you don't get him at all

Most of us have at least 6 prem mids now. With only two spots left surely there are much better options you'd want in your final 8?
Still avg 108 RD. I think he's due for a big one. Is dirt cheap, great bye (not the only reason I got him), proven, and will turn it around. Bloody Pendles is starting to give me the flowering sh#ts brought him last week for  a 91 and 76. I see him more of a concern...
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Judd Magic on May 14, 2017, 01:10:38 AM
Quote from: tommy10 on May 14, 2017, 01:05:53 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 13, 2017, 09:12:59 PM
No, I'm suggesting you don't get him at all

Most of us have at least 6 prem mids now. With only two spots left surely there are much better options you'd want in your final 8?
Still avg 108 RD. I think he's due for a big one. Is dirt cheap, great bye (not the only reason I got him), proven, and will turn it around. Bloody Pendles is starting to give me the flowering sh#ts brought him last week for  a 91 and 76. I see him more of a concern...

Pendles will be fine once the baby pops out of his Mrs.  :P
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: _wato on May 14, 2017, 01:26:09 AM
I honestly think he could be lucky and not miss any games.
If it popped out and straight back in (the doctors have said it went back in) he should be fine to play.

Remember rocky is a guy who's played with broken ribs before, don't care what you say but he is the heart and soul of the club.
He dislocated his finger the other week and came back on. Guy is tough as nails.

You'd have to severe a limb to stop him from playing.

Honestly though probably being pessimistic. Will deffs miss a week.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Ricochet on May 14, 2017, 01:29:17 AM
If you pop a shoulder out you need surgery or it'll pop out again in the future

You can play with it but it'll continue to hinder him and will take time to settle
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: _wato on May 14, 2017, 01:40:14 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on May 14, 2017, 01:29:17 AM
If you pop a shoulder out you need surgery or it'll pop out again in the future

You can play with it but it'll continue to hinder him and will take time to settle

It's his bung shoulder though so it's always been bad.

He'll play through it imo.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: sammy123 on May 14, 2017, 03:18:29 AM
Quote from: _wato on May 14, 2017, 01:40:14 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on May 14, 2017, 01:29:17 AM
If you pop a shoulder out you need surgery or it'll pop out again in the future

You can play with it but it'll continue to hinder him and will take time to settle

It's his bung shoulder though so it's always been bad.

He'll play through it imo.

if he does he'll still average 120
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: _wato on May 14, 2017, 12:52:07 PM
Righto he's cooked

Game day just said if he requires surgery he'll be out for 3 months
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on May 14, 2017, 01:03:33 PM
Quote from: _wato on May 14, 2017, 12:52:07 PM
Righto he's cooked

Game day just said if he requires surgery he'll be out for 3 months

So no Rocky for 2017, that's harsh but not unexpected.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on May 14, 2017, 01:10:15 PM
Quote from: Bully on May 14, 2017, 01:03:33 PM
Quote from: _wato on May 14, 2017, 12:52:07 PM
Righto he's cooked

Game day just said if he requires surgery he'll be out for 3 months

So no Rocky for 2017, that's harsh but not unexpected.
*if

:P
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: _wato on May 14, 2017, 01:23:03 PM
Quote from: GoLions on May 14, 2017, 01:10:15 PM
Quote from: Bully on May 14, 2017, 01:03:33 PM
Quote from: _wato on May 14, 2017, 12:52:07 PM
Righto he's cooked

Game day just said if he requires surgery he'll be out for 3 months

So no Rocky for 2017, that's harsh but not unexpected.
*if

:P

That's what I thought too ;)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: miamis_finest on May 14, 2017, 01:39:15 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 13, 2017, 08:20:07 PM
Dusty is averaging crap for a month straight

Wouldnt touch him until he shows the first couple of games weren't a flash in the pan
All he needs to do is have a game where he hits a few targets and he's going to score close to 200. If you didn't get him in at this price you're crazy IMO.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 14, 2017, 01:48:14 PM
Quote from: miamis_finest on May 14, 2017, 01:39:15 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 13, 2017, 08:20:07 PM
Dusty is averaging crap for a month straight

Wouldnt touch him until he shows the first couple of games weren't a flash in the pan
All he needs to do is have a game where he hits a few targets and he's going to score close to 200. If you didn't get him in at this price you're crazy IMO.

more concerned about getting Sloane this week or next
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Mat0369 on May 14, 2017, 01:51:12 PM
I'd be more concerned about Sloane actually breaking a tag.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Judd Magic on May 14, 2017, 01:52:36 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 14, 2017, 01:51:12 PM
I'd be more concerned about Sloane actually breaking a tag.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on May 14, 2017, 03:11:21 PM
Ha, Dusty giving me a friendly reminder today :P

Thoughts on Cotchin? Seems to be no talk about him but averaging 111 before today
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: batt on May 14, 2017, 03:19:03 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 14, 2017, 03:11:21 PM
Ha, Dusty giving me a friendly reminder today :P

Thoughts on Cotchin? Seems to be no talk about him but averaging 111 before today
Unbelievable how little Cotch is in the SC consciousness as a R12 bye player averaging 110.

I'm thinking Dusty at this stage for Rocky, if the trade is required.  Bont can come in after his bye.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: tommy10 on May 14, 2017, 09:18:38 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 14, 2017, 01:51:12 PM
I'd be more concerned about Sloane actually breaking a tag.
He's looking juicy in 2-3 weeks but yeah he's struggling to break a tag
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 14, 2017, 09:20:30 PM
thoughts on Parker? finally looking decent
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 15, 2017, 01:57:56 PM
“It’s unlikely he’ll play against Adelaide but you never know with Tom,’’ Noble said.

“We’ll let it settle for 24 hours or so we get a clearer picture from the scans but it was a relatively normal dislocation.

“Some guys have played the next week with it because it settled down quickly and they can get their strength back around the shoulder so it will depend on those things with Rocky but we’ll know more after the scans.’’
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: batt on May 15, 2017, 02:03:28 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on May 15, 2017, 01:57:56 PM
“It’s unlikely he’ll play against Adelaide but you never know with Tom,’’ Noble said.

“We’ll let it settle for 24 hours or so we get a clearer picture from the scans but it was a relatively normal dislocation.

“Some guys have played the next week with it because it settled down quickly and they can get their strength back around the shoulder so it will depend on those things with Rocky but we’ll know more after the scans.’’
:-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on May 15, 2017, 05:32:10 PM
I'm hoping he's back in round 12, will bring him in as my last mid.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on May 15, 2017, 06:04:22 PM
(https://i.gyazo.com/731bb506f92ba4622c7abf1372e212c2.png)

##1 #goat
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Wanderer on May 15, 2017, 06:10:05 PM
They are better off tanking and giving him a long rest and recovery period  :P
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: _wato on May 15, 2017, 06:10:32 PM
If you take out his rubbish 53 where he definitely deserved a 80 there's a 1000 points total and he's averaging well over 125. Guy is a deadset gun.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Holz on May 16, 2017, 08:51:06 AM
Quote from: Wanderer on May 15, 2017, 06:10:05 PM
They are better off tanking and giving him a long rest and recovery period  :P

They lose regardless might as well play him
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on June 08, 2017, 12:45:21 PM
Can someone tell me what Rocky scored when he returned from injury last year in R11 against the Blues?
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: jvalles69 on June 08, 2017, 12:49:40 PM
Quote from: GoLions on June 08, 2017, 12:45:21 PM
Can someone tell me what Rocky scored when he returned from injury last year in R11 against the Blues?

This a trick question?  184 big ones!  8)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: tor01doc on June 08, 2017, 12:49:51 PM
Quote from: GoLions on June 08, 2017, 12:45:21 PM
Can someone tell me what Rocky scored when he returned from injury last year in R11 against the Blues?

Cheeky or lazy?
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on June 08, 2017, 01:01:03 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 08, 2017, 12:49:40 PM
Quote from: GoLions on June 08, 2017, 12:45:21 PM
Can someone tell me what Rocky scored when he returned from injury last year in R11 against the Blues?

This a trick question?  184 big ones!  8)
Nah in SC
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on June 08, 2017, 01:02:47 PM
Quote from: tor01doc on June 08, 2017, 12:49:51 PM
Quote from: GoLions on June 08, 2017, 12:45:21 PM
Can someone tell me what Rocky scored when he returned from injury last year in R11 against the Blues?

Cheeky or lazy?
:P
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: jvalles69 on June 08, 2017, 01:09:26 PM
Quote from: GoLions on June 08, 2017, 01:01:03 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 08, 2017, 12:49:40 PM
Quote from: GoLions on June 08, 2017, 12:45:21 PM
Can someone tell me what Rocky scored when he returned from injury last year in R11 against the Blues?

This a trick question?  184 big ones!  8)
Nah in SC

Ah, 204. Double  8) 8)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on June 08, 2017, 01:19:29 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 08, 2017, 01:09:26 PM
Quote from: GoLions on June 08, 2017, 01:01:03 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 08, 2017, 12:49:40 PM
Quote from: GoLions on June 08, 2017, 12:45:21 PM
Can someone tell me what Rocky scored when he returned from injury last year in R11 against the Blues?

This a trick question?  184 big ones!  8)
Nah in SC

Ah, 204. Double  8) 8)
Hmmm...interesting ;)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Ringo on June 08, 2017, 01:42:27 PM
Quote from: GoLions on June 08, 2017, 01:19:29 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 08, 2017, 01:09:26 PM
Quote from: GoLions on June 08, 2017, 01:01:03 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 08, 2017, 12:49:40 PM
Quote from: GoLions on June 08, 2017, 12:45:21 PM
Can someone tell me what Rocky scored when he returned from injury last year in R11 against the Blues?

This a trick question?  184 big ones!  8)
Nah in SC

Ah, 204. Double  8) 8)
Hmmm...interesting ;)
and that was after a 3 week break as well.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: quinny88 on June 08, 2017, 01:54:42 PM
Is he actually confirmed to be back? I haven't heard anything about it
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: jvalles69 on June 08, 2017, 01:57:07 PM
So 180 is our cut-off for VC this week then?  :P
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Ringo on June 08, 2017, 02:56:27 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on June 08, 2017, 01:54:42 PM
Is he actually confirmed to be back? I haven't heard anything about it
Trained strongly on Monday Quinny and will play so long as he pulls up OK.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 08, 2017, 03:26:55 PM
I want to pick Rocky, I really do, but trades are precious now and I don't want to bring him in only to have to trade him out or bench him later

I just glanced over his past 3-4 years and he has never played more than 8-9 games in a row

SC Beast, and I want his scoring, but I'm seriously considering passing and going with JPK or Bont instead

I'm in two minds about it  :'(
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on June 08, 2017, 03:41:22 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 08, 2017, 03:26:55 PM
I want to pick Rocky, I really do, but trades are precious now and I don't want to bring him in only to have to trade him out or bench him later

I just glanced over his past 3-4 years and he has never played more than 8-9 games in a row

SC Beast, and I want his scoring, but I'm seriously considering passing and going with JPK or Bont instead

I'm in two minds about it  :'(
Didn't he play the last 12 in a row last year (with bye in between)? And then i think the year before was just the concussion and broken ribs (nothing to do with being injury prone).

130 average coming right up :P
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 08, 2017, 03:50:37 PM
Don't really care what the reason is behind him missing games

History says he struggles to string 10+ games in a row for whatever reason

I want to pick him, but my gut feel says he'll miss eventually. I guess that what's Scooter at M9 is for right? :P

Just concerning that's all



Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: PICCOLLO on June 08, 2017, 04:23:44 PM
He is a risk but with a big payout.
Has a pattern of getting injured mid season and coming home like a freight train if memory serves.
I'm not getting him yet because of price but I'm not ruling him out for later.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: brudski on June 08, 2017, 04:59:07 PM
I really want rocky but i already have a stacked midfield in Sloane, Tichell, Bont, Fyfe, Kennedy, Treloar, Jelwood, Danger and don't really want to sideways fyfe
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on June 08, 2017, 06:56:19 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 08, 2017, 03:50:37 PM
Don't really care what the reason is behind him missing games

History says he struggles to string 10+ games in a row for whatever reason

I want to pick him, but my gut feel says he'll miss eventually. I guess that what's Scooter at M9 is for right? :P

Just concerning that's all

Only 7% ownership and could be the difference over the next month. Definitely worth it.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Blues Blues Blues on June 09, 2017, 08:58:51 AM
Quote from: brudski on June 08, 2017, 04:59:07 PM
I really want rocky but i already have a stacked midfield in Sloane, Tichell, Bont, Fyfe, Kennedy, Treloar, Jelwood, Danger and don't really want to sideways fyfe

Same dilemma. I can get him via Sandi but I'll have Fyfe at M9 and Scooter at M10. Slightly heavy. But with a BE of 55 he is going to be well over $600k next week and hard to see him dropping.

Thinking I might trade Fyfe next week (Freo bye) and bring in Docherty, leaving Scooter at M9. Effectively Sandi and Fyfe become Rocky and Docherty.

I'm asking myself, head to head, who would I want: Fyfe or Rocky. Based on current form you'd go Rocky every day of the week - he is a machine. BUT, will Fyfe pull his finger out and respond to the recent scrutiny? The clubs that were lining up to offer him a big pay check are probably getting cold feet so he may be motivated to fire up and perform? Would hate to trade him and then see him tear it up.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Blues Blues Blues on June 09, 2017, 09:01:18 AM
Quote from: PICCOLLO on June 08, 2017, 04:23:44 PM
He is a risk but with a big payout.
Has a pattern of getting injured mid season and coming home like a freight train if memory serves.
I'm not getting him yet because of price but I'm not ruling him out for later.

Hard to see his price heading south and him being cheaper. BE of 55 and playing at Gabba against Freo. Barring injury it's hard to see  him dropping below $600k
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Ringo on June 15, 2017, 01:28:20 PM
Comment from Fagans Presser:

CF: Last week his [Rockliff] shoulder wasn't quite right, this week it is.

So make out of this what you want. Does this explain why he played mainly outside last week and can look to more inside this week?
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Huttabito on June 15, 2017, 02:33:03 PM
Quote from: Ringo on June 15, 2017, 01:28:20 PM
Comment from Fagans Presser:

CF: Last week his [Rockliff] shoulder wasn't quite right, this week it is.

So make out of this what you want. Does this explain why he played mainly outside last week and can look to more inside this week?
92 last week and he didn't get out of 2nd gear. Look out  8)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: tommy10 on June 15, 2017, 02:39:15 PM
Quote from: Huttabito on June 15, 2017, 02:33:03 PM
Quote from: Ringo on June 15, 2017, 01:28:20 PM
Comment from Fagans Presser:

CF: Last week his [Rockliff] shoulder wasn't quite right, this week it is.

So make out of this what you want. Does this explain why he played mainly outside last week and can look to more inside this week?
92 last week and he didn't get out of 2nd gear. Look out  8)
Yep fingers crossed...need a huge one from you Rocky :-X
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Ingram on June 15, 2017, 05:10:47 PM
I hope Rocky is frothing at the mouth at the thought of playing Port this weekend after seeing what Essendon did to them.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: TomK on June 15, 2017, 05:12:11 PM
Quote from: Ingram on June 15, 2017, 05:10:47 PM
I hope Rocky is frothing at the mouth at the thought of playing Port this weekend after seeing what Essendon did to them.
Port will absolutely pump them
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Ingram on June 15, 2017, 05:16:36 PM
Quote from: TomK on June 15, 2017, 05:12:11 PM
Quote from: Ingram on June 15, 2017, 05:10:47 PM
I hope Rocky is frothing at the mouth at the thought of playing Port this weekend after seeing what Essendon did to them.
Port will absolutely pump them

If they play like they did against Freo I reckon they'll put up a good fight. Port are just a bunch of flogs anyway.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: PowerBug on June 15, 2017, 05:18:41 PM
Quote from: Ingram on June 15, 2017, 05:16:36 PM
Quote from: TomK on June 15, 2017, 05:12:11 PM
Quote from: Ingram on June 15, 2017, 05:10:47 PM
I hope Rocky is frothing at the mouth at the thought of playing Port this weekend after seeing what Essendon did to them.
Port will absolutely pump them

If they play like they did against Freo I reckon they'll put up a good fight. Port are just a bunch of flogs anyway.
Please expand on this so I don't just suspend you without some context ;) :P
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Ingram on June 15, 2017, 05:23:21 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on June 15, 2017, 05:18:41 PM
Quote from: Ingram on June 15, 2017, 05:16:36 PM
Quote from: TomK on June 15, 2017, 05:12:11 PM
Quote from: Ingram on June 15, 2017, 05:10:47 PM
I hope Rocky is frothing at the mouth at the thought of playing Port this weekend after seeing what Essendon did to them.
Port will absolutely pump them

If they play like they did against Freo I reckon they'll put up a good fight. Port are just a bunch of flogs anyway.
Please expand on this so I don't just suspend you without some context ;) :P

haha they've not beaten anyone in the top 8 and just flog the weaker teams. Hence their inflated percentage which Essendon took a nice chip out of last weekend  ;D
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bluesalltheway on June 15, 2017, 08:22:55 PM
Last 4 scores against Port: 53, 81, 43 (injury affected) and 91. Probably wouldn't expect him to go huge this week but hopefully he can the next few weeks
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: miamis_finest on June 17, 2017, 07:16:23 PM
Not sure why I went near Rockliff last week, he'll go down as my worst pickup for the year. He's not interested in tackling, he's not interested in going in for the hardball. Shell of what he was producing earlier in the year.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on June 17, 2017, 07:35:37 PM
Didn't touch it that quarter, looking like a dud pick at a premium price.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 17, 2017, 07:39:43 PM
I've had him once before (Last year or the year before) and he burnt me

He is doing it again

Can't do anything about it now except hope he gets better next week

92 last week was fine first game back, but today is a shocker. All prems have them from time to time so lets just hope he produced next week (And gets a few touches in the last qtr today)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: miamis_finest on June 17, 2017, 07:42:30 PM
Played about 8 minutes game time in the 3rd quarter and has started on the bench in the 4th. He's cooked and I'm filthy that I went near him.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 17, 2017, 07:47:25 PM
Zorko is the real GOAT

So glad I've had him since about Round 4/5
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on June 17, 2017, 07:48:35 PM
61% game time, I'm done for this round with Buddy & Selwood also spudding up.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 17, 2017, 07:51:54 PM
Yeah I'm cooked this round too, but at least I'll win my cash league match

Low TOG, 1 tackle and only 13 touches

I haven't even seen him in the 4th so far. Probably injured again
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: miamis_finest on June 17, 2017, 08:01:05 PM
Why does he keep going to the bench, he started playing forward and was seen in the picture twice, and the team is trying to win the flowering game. I'm not sure I've been this frustrated about a player before.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on June 17, 2017, 08:02:18 PM
If the people on the FF live game chat can be trusted, he has been spewing for most of the 2nd half :-\
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on June 17, 2017, 08:10:37 PM
Quote from: GoLions on June 17, 2017, 08:02:18 PM
If the people on the FF live game chat can be trusted, he has been spewing for most of the 2nd half :-\

I'm the one who's spewing.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Marstar on June 17, 2017, 08:12:11 PM
Quote from: Bully on June 17, 2017, 08:10:37 PM
Quote from: GoLions on June 17, 2017, 08:02:18 PM
If the people on the FF live game chat can be trusted, he has been spewing for most of the 2nd half :-\

I'm the one who's spewing.

Add me that list  :'(
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 17, 2017, 08:13:59 PM
I'll just pretend Zorko (142) and Rocky (59) both scored 100 to make it feel better :P
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Holz on June 17, 2017, 08:19:12 PM
Im going to love bringing in him in a few weeks.

if he goes 115 the next 2 weeks will be a very nice 560k

you would think he might struggle v GWS so could be 550k.

Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: shaker on June 17, 2017, 08:24:10 PM
He has not tackled and low C/P since shoulder can see a shoulder reco before seasons out
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: fanTCfool on June 17, 2017, 08:53:24 PM
Took me a quarter but I finally found the Sam Docherty thread  8)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bluesalltheway on June 17, 2017, 08:53:39 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on June 17, 2017, 08:53:24 PM
Took me a quarter but I finally found the Sam Docherty thread  8)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: fanTCfool on June 17, 2017, 10:35:39 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on June 17, 2017, 08:53:24 PM
Took me a three quarters but I finally found the Sam Docherty Bryce Gibbs thread  8)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 18, 2017, 01:19:19 AM
Played 11 mins in the 3rd and 12 mins in the 4th

WTF is going on?
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on June 18, 2017, 01:46:51 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 18, 2017, 01:19:19 AM
Played 11 mins in the 3rd and 12 mins in the 4th

WTF is going on?

Quote from: GoLions on June 17, 2017, 08:02:18 PM
If the people on the FF live game chat can be trusted, he has been spewing for most of the 2nd half :-\
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Ringo on June 18, 2017, 09:05:53 AM
Quote from: GoLions on June 18, 2017, 01:46:51 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 18, 2017, 01:19:19 AM
Played 11 mins in the 3rd and 12 mins in the 4th

WTF is going on?

Quote from: GoLions on June 17, 2017, 08:02:18 PM
If the people on the FF live game chat can be trusted, he has been spewing for most of the 2nd half :-\
Yep showed a shot on TV of him vomiting during 3rd quarter.  Must be the Adelaide Water effecting us remember Zorko as well.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Rusty00 on June 18, 2017, 09:29:17 PM
Quote from: Ringo on June 18, 2017, 09:05:53 AM
Quote from: GoLions on June 18, 2017, 01:46:51 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 18, 2017, 01:19:19 AM
Played 11 mins in the 3rd and 12 mins in the 4th

WTF is going on?

Quote from: GoLions on June 17, 2017, 08:02:18 PM
If the people on the FF live game chat can be trusted, he has been spewing for most of the 2nd half :-\
Yep showed a shot on TV of him vomiting during 3rd quarter.  Must be the Adelaide Water effecting us remember Zorko as well.
Well we do have the old saying here "If it's brown, drink it down. If it's black, send it back." :P
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: miamis_finest on June 22, 2017, 01:58:48 PM
Hopefully his shoulder feels good enough this week to start tackling and getting some contested pill. Been absolutely furious about picking this guy up which is obviously my own fault. I didn't think that a two week shoulder would affect a guys play so much but he doesn't want to go near it.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: BLBBLB on June 27, 2017, 06:26:53 PM
I'm seriously considering trading him out to Merrett.

Yes I'm usually a believer of the no sideways trades mantra, but he's injured and holding back and given $ are getting tight this time of year, I'm not sure I can afford to trade him out in 2 weeks time after 2 more shower scores.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: tommy10 on June 27, 2017, 06:45:55 PM
Quote from: BLBBLB on June 27, 2017, 06:26:53 PM
I'm seriously considering trading him out to Merrett.

Yes I'm usually a believer of the no sideways trades mantra, but he's injured and holding back and given $ are getting tight this time of year, I'm not sure I can afford to trade him out in 2 weeks time after 2 more shower scores.
Depends if you're going for overall and you have enough trades up your sleeve for finals
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on June 27, 2017, 09:29:01 PM
No Beams will be good for Rocky.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Judd Magic on June 27, 2017, 10:05:43 PM
Quote from: Bully on June 27, 2017, 09:29:01 PM
No Beams will be good for Rocky.

Hopefully Zorko too.  ;D
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: tommy10 on June 27, 2017, 10:14:39 PM
Quote from: Bully on June 27, 2017, 09:29:01 PM
No Beams will be good for Rocky.
+1
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 27, 2017, 10:17:12 PM
Quote from: Judd Magic on June 27, 2017, 10:05:43 PM
Quote from: Bully on June 27, 2017, 09:29:01 PM
No Beams will be good for Rocky.

Hopefully Zorko too.  ;D

I'm worried, because Sam Reid showed 16 other clubs that Zorko can be crushed with a tag  :'(
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Dudge on June 27, 2017, 10:28:07 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 27, 2017, 10:17:12 PM
Quote from: Judd Magic on June 27, 2017, 10:05:43 PM
Quote from: Bully on June 27, 2017, 09:29:01 PM
No Beams will be good for Rocky.

Hopefully Zorko too.  ;D

I'm worried, because Sam Reid showed 16 other clubs that Zorko can be crushed with a tag  :'(

Touch dramatic RD, crushed ? Yeah struggled, but crushed. Mate, if every player that got a shower score cause of a hard tag we avoided, then we would have no Prems
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: _wato on June 27, 2017, 10:30:47 PM
Quote from: Dudge on June 27, 2017, 10:28:07 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 27, 2017, 10:17:12 PM
Quote from: Judd Magic on June 27, 2017, 10:05:43 PM
Quote from: Bully on June 27, 2017, 09:29:01 PM
No Beams will be good for Rocky.

Hopefully Zorko too.  ;D

I'm worried, because Sam Reid showed 16 other clubs that Zorko can be crushed with a tag  :'(

Touch dramatic RD, crushed ? Yeah struggled, but crushed. Mate, if every player that got a shower score cause of a hard tag we avoided, then we would have no Prems

Haha yes crushed absolutely. 5 touches in 4 quarters ;D very lucky he had 9 tackles!!
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Judd Magic on June 27, 2017, 10:44:25 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 27, 2017, 10:17:12 PM
Quote from: Judd Magic on June 27, 2017, 10:05:43 PM
Quote from: Bully on June 27, 2017, 09:29:01 PM
No Beams will be good for Rocky.

Hopefully Zorko too.  ;D

I'm worried, because Sam Reid showed 16 other clubs that Zorko can be crushed with a tag  :'(

I look at Zorko like Neale.

Neale has that game every season where he will cop a tag and score 50 odd.

He then goes on to score well again for the rest of the season.

Hopefully the same applies with Zorko for us.  :D
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Dudge on June 27, 2017, 10:47:47 PM
Well i don't even own him, but you 2 out rank me by a country mile, so i,ll end this debate. Just hard to ignore 5/6 of his last scores
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on June 27, 2017, 11:05:30 PM
Quote from: Judd Magic on June 27, 2017, 10:44:25 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 27, 2017, 10:17:12 PM
Quote from: Judd Magic on June 27, 2017, 10:05:43 PM
Quote from: Bully on June 27, 2017, 09:29:01 PM
No Beams will be good for Rocky.

Hopefully Zorko too.  ;D

I'm worried, because Sam Reid showed 16 other clubs that Zorko can be crushed with a tag  :'(

I look at Zorko like Neale.

Neale has that game every season where he will cop a tag and score 50 odd.

He then goes on to score well again for the rest of the season.

Hopefully the same applies with Zorko for us.  :D

Neale was tagged last week and was 104 at 3/4 time. CD were very harsh with their scaling down. Reckon he's tag proof. Zorko, dunno, reckon he's first in line now.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: _wato on June 27, 2017, 11:09:22 PM
No point tagging Rocky and we all know why. Beams is worth tagging but he's now out.
Zorko definitely the #1 tag worthy especially the form he's in. However unsure how many teams will actually tag him.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Judd Magic on June 27, 2017, 11:16:43 PM
Quote from: Bully on June 27, 2017, 11:05:30 PM
Quote from: Judd Magic on June 27, 2017, 10:44:25 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 27, 2017, 10:17:12 PM
Quote from: Judd Magic on June 27, 2017, 10:05:43 PM
Quote from: Bully on June 27, 2017, 09:29:01 PM
No Beams will be good for Rocky.

Hopefully Zorko too.  ;D

I'm worried, because Sam Reid showed 16 other clubs that Zorko can be crushed with a tag  :'(

I look at Zorko like Neale.

Neale has that game every season where he will cop a tag and score 50 odd.

He then goes on to score well again for the rest of the season.

Hopefully the same applies with Zorko for us.  :D

Neale was tagged last week and was 104 at 3/4 time. CD were very harsh with their scaling down. Reckon he's tag proof. Zorko, dunno, reckon he's first in line now.

I'm definitely starting with Neale next season, he's a flowering gun!

Danger, Neale, Merrett, Cripps, Bont will be my starting premo mids.  8)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 28, 2017, 12:04:29 AM
Zorko had never been tagged before

Due to his top form GWS obviously realised he was their most damaging player so went with the tag

Sam Reid tagged him for 42 minutes and in that time he did not get a single touch!

5 touches in the first half - none in the second

NONE!

That's absolute ownage, and other teams would have noticed
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Ringo on June 28, 2017, 09:59:30 AM
Agree somewhat with RD here as this was the first time Zorks had a hard tag applied and no doubt was surprised and could not handle it. To put into perspective Zorko was giving away 21cm in height as well so obviously was not going to the possessions he usually gets. 

Our structures also suffered with the very early injury to Beams.

Coaches are putting in some time with this this week as well as it was a unique situation before last week.



Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 02, 2017, 05:17:30 PM
Since I bought him in

92
59
83
68

GOAT my ass
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Vinny on July 02, 2017, 05:21:59 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 02, 2017, 05:17:30 PM
Since I bought him in

92
59
83
68

GOAT my ass
The GOAT has actually gone:

144
153
120
122

???
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Torpedo10 on July 02, 2017, 05:25:58 PM
Quote from: Vinny on July 02, 2017, 05:21:59 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 02, 2017, 05:17:30 PM
Since I bought him in

92
59
83
68

GOAT my ass
The GOAT has actually gone:

144
153
120
122

???
:)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Dudge on July 04, 2017, 09:33:05 PM
Quote from: Dudge on June 27, 2017, 10:47:47 PM
Well i don't even own him, but you 2 out rank me by a country mile, so i,ll end this debate. Just hard to ignore 5/6 of his last scores

6/7  :)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: meow meow on July 06, 2017, 07:19:07 PM
Gibbs > Rocky
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Vinny on July 06, 2017, 07:41:53 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 06, 2017, 07:19:07 PM
Gibbs > Rocky
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Jroo on July 07, 2017, 02:06:23 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 06, 2017, 07:19:07 PM
Gibbs > Rocky
>:(
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: quinny88 on July 07, 2017, 03:19:16 PM
Quote from: Vinny on July 02, 2017, 05:21:59 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 02, 2017, 05:17:30 PM
Since I bought him in

92
59
83
68

GOAT my ass
The GOAT has actually gone:

144
153
120
122

???

There's another reasonably handy guy that's gone:
151
163
149
141
145
196

Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: quinny88 on July 07, 2017, 03:21:56 PM
Has anyone ever put together a bigger 6 weeks than that? ^  :o

Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Holz on July 07, 2017, 03:32:22 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on July 07, 2017, 03:21:56 PM
Has anyone ever put together a bigger 6 weeks than that? ^  :o

yep Goldy

148 140 221 127 164 155 = 159.2 average

Ablett x3

160 162 139 150 197 149 = 159.5  average
164 127 157 180 161 169 = 159.7 average
182 138 161 145 141 184  = 158.5 average


Danger a measly 157.5








Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 07, 2017, 05:36:50 PM
Formal request to have the name of this thread changed to Tom Rockliff
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: PowerBug on July 07, 2017, 05:46:47 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 07, 2017, 05:36:50 PM
Formal request to have the name of this thread changed to Tom Rockliff
I tried. GL not a fan
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Samm79 on July 07, 2017, 05:51:14 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 07, 2017, 03:32:22 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on July 07, 2017, 03:21:56 PM
Has anyone ever put together a bigger 6 weeks than that? ^  :o

yep Goldy

148 140 221 127 164 155 = 159.2 average

Ablett x3

160 162 139 150 197 149 = 159.5  average
164 127 157 180 161 169 = 159.7 average
182 138 161 145 141 184  = 158.5 average


Danger a measly 157.5

Bazz Hall put together 8 weeks at 155.63, including a 76 and 80! Went 172,184,76,80,203,213,128,189
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: erich1036 on July 07, 2017, 05:51:51 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 07, 2017, 03:32:22 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on July 07, 2017, 03:21:56 PM
Has anyone ever put together a bigger 6 weeks than that? ^  :o

yep Goldy

148 140 221 127 164 155 = 159.2 average

Ablett x3

160 162 139 150 197 149 = 159.5  average
164 127 157 180 161 169 = 159.7 average
182 138 161 145 141 184  = 158.5 average


Danger a measly 157.5

Barry Hall, Rounds 5-10, 2006 - 170, 164, 152, 171, 122, 190 = 6 games @ 161.5
Jonathan Brown, Rounds 5-10, 2006 - 131, 71, 262, 162, 189, 151 = 6 games @ 161
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: tkringle on July 07, 2017, 07:18:52 PM
Quote from: erich1036 on July 07, 2017, 05:51:51 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 07, 2017, 03:32:22 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on July 07, 2017, 03:21:56 PM
Has anyone ever put together a bigger 6 weeks than that? ^  :o

yep Goldy

148 140 221 127 164 155 = 159.2 average

Ablett x3

160 162 139 150 197 149 = 159.5  average
164 127 157 180 161 169 = 159.7 average
182 138 161 145 141 184  = 158.5 average


Danger a measly 157.5

Barry Hall, Rounds 5-10, 2006 - 170, 164, 152, 171, 122, 190 = 6 games @ 161.5
Jonathan Brown, Rounds 5-10, 2006 - 131, 71, 262, 162, 189, 151 = 6 games @ 161

Amazing! Doubt we will ever see a key forward dominate over a stretch of games like that ever again.. Which is a shame..
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: North Melbournes Finest on July 07, 2017, 07:40:19 PM
Probably be leading the comp if I picked up Z Merrett or somebody else over this scrub.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Vinny on July 07, 2017, 07:41:31 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 07, 2017, 05:36:50 PM
Formal request to have the name of this thread changed to Tom Rockliff
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Mat0369 on July 08, 2017, 02:26:25 PM
Quote from: tkringle on July 07, 2017, 07:18:52 PM
Quote from: erich1036 on July 07, 2017, 05:51:51 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 07, 2017, 03:32:22 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on July 07, 2017, 03:21:56 PM
Has anyone ever put together a bigger 6 weeks than that? ^  :o

yep Goldy

148 140 221 127 164 155 = 159.2 average

Ablett x3

160 162 139 150 197 149 = 159.5  average
164 127 157 180 161 169 = 159.7 average
182 138 161 145 141 184  = 158.5 average


Danger a measly 157.5

Barry Hall, Rounds 5-10, 2006 - 170, 164, 152, 171, 122, 190 = 6 games @ 161.5
Jonathan Brown, Rounds 5-10, 2006 - 131, 71, 262, 162, 189, 151 = 6 games @ 161

Amazing! Doubt we will ever see a key forward dominate over a stretch of games like that ever again.. Which is a shame..

I have a feeling they both played Carlton in that stretch....
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: jfitty on July 08, 2017, 11:10:23 PM
Time for us all to acknowledge the actual GOAT, Dayne Zorko!
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: tkringle on July 08, 2017, 11:41:17 PM
Quote from: jfitty on July 08, 2017, 11:10:23 PM
Time for us all to acknowledge the actual GOAT, Dayne Zorko!

Think Danger has that title wrapped up
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GCSkiwi on July 09, 2017, 09:58:08 AM
Rocky. You punisher.

He's entered the fringe of the "never again" radar.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: tkringle on July 09, 2017, 11:10:53 AM
Quote from: jfitty on July 08, 2017, 11:10:23 PM
Time for us all to acknowledge the actual GOAT, Dayne Zorko!

There goes my plan to bring him in for under $550K! With a BE of 173, i thought it was almost certain..
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Wanderer on July 09, 2017, 11:12:21 AM
Quote from: GCSkiwi on July 09, 2017, 09:58:08 AM
Rocky. You punisher.

He's entered the fringe of the "never again" radar.
He is the leader of "never again"
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Mark on July 09, 2017, 11:19:55 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 07, 2017, 05:36:50 PM
Formal request to have the name of this thread changed to Tom Rockliff
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: SilverLion on July 09, 2017, 11:21:33 AM
Was on the never again list after getting injured Rd1 last year. Almost tempted in pre-season but the bloke is just too injury prone and too up and down.

We all know the real GOAT at the Lions is...

Quote from: GoLions on July 04, 2017, 01:35:03 AM
ZZZZZZZZZZORKOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 09, 2017, 11:26:19 AM
Zorko's BE was 173. No problems he said

Only 6.5% of us have him  ;D
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: SilverLion on July 09, 2017, 11:30:40 AM
Quote from: erich1036 on July 07, 2017, 05:51:51 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 07, 2017, 03:32:22 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on July 07, 2017, 03:21:56 PM
Has anyone ever put together a bigger 6 weeks than that? ^  :o

yep Goldy

148 140 221 127 164 155 = 159.2 average

Ablett x3

160 162 139 150 197 149 = 159.5  average
164 127 157 180 161 169 = 159.7 average
182 138 161 145 141 184  = 158.5 average


Danger a measly 157.5

Barry Hall, Rounds 5-10, 2006 - 170, 164, 152, 171, 122, 190 = 6 games @ 161.5
Jonathan Brown, Rounds 5-10, 2006 - 131, 71, 262, 162, 189, 151 = 6 games @ 161

What about a better SEVEN week block ;D
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: PowerBug on July 09, 2017, 11:38:15 AM
;D
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Mark on July 09, 2017, 11:52:06 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 09, 2017, 11:26:19 AM
Zorko's BE was 173. No problems he said

Only 6.5% of us have him  ;D

Had him all year.

Very happy. Well done also RD
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on July 09, 2017, 01:51:47 PM
Rocky is done as a super coach player, if I had some trades up the sleeve I'd be punting him.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Colty on July 09, 2017, 03:19:57 PM
He is liable to come out and score 150 next week.  Keep the faith. 
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Ringo on July 09, 2017, 03:36:56 PM
Quote from: tkringle on July 08, 2017, 11:41:17 PM
Quote from: jfitty on July 08, 2017, 11:10:23 PM
Time for us all to acknowledge the actual GOAT, Dayne Zorko!

Think Danger has that title wrapped up
Reckon Zorko outplayed him last night
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Gigantor on July 09, 2017, 04:06:21 PM
Quote from: Ringo on July 09, 2017, 03:36:56 PM
Quote from: tkringle on July 08, 2017, 11:41:17 PM
Quote from: jfitty on July 08, 2017, 11:10:23 PM
Time for us all to acknowledge the actual GOAT, Dayne Zorko!

Think Danger has that title wrapped up
Reckon Zorko outplayed him last night

Don't think Danger is getting 5 touches in a full game of footy anytime soon  ;D
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Keeper27 on July 09, 2017, 04:23:15 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on July 09, 2017, 04:06:21 PM
Quote from: Ringo on July 09, 2017, 03:36:56 PM
Quote from: tkringle on July 08, 2017, 11:41:17 PM
Quote from: jfitty on July 08, 2017, 11:10:23 PM
Time for us all to acknowledge the actual GOAT, Dayne Zorko!

Think Danger has that title wrapped up
Reckon Zorko outplayed him last night

Don't think Danger is getting 5 touches in a full game of footy anytime soon  ;D

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Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: _wato on July 09, 2017, 07:01:33 PM
Quote from: Ringo on July 09, 2017, 03:36:56 PM
Quote from: tkringle on July 08, 2017, 11:41:17 PM
Quote from: jfitty on July 08, 2017, 11:10:23 PM
Time for us all to acknowledge the actual GOAT, Dayne Zorko!

Think Danger has that title wrapped up
Reckon Zorko outplayed him last night

I disagree, Danger was unbelievable
5 contested marks inside 50 too
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Ringo on July 09, 2017, 08:28:50 PM
Reason I am saying this is that Danger was extremely quiet in first quarter whereas Zorko played for 4 quarters.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Judd Magic on July 10, 2017, 01:05:53 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 09, 2017, 11:26:19 AM
Zorko's BE was 173. No problems he said

Only 6.5% of us have him  ;D

I'm a Zorko owner too RD.

Let us Zorko owners rejoice.  ;D

He helped me get to 40th overall this week.  8)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on July 10, 2017, 01:55:38 AM
Quote from: Judd Magic on July 10, 2017, 01:05:53 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 09, 2017, 11:26:19 AM
Zorko's BE was 173. No problems he said

Only 6.5% of us have him  ;D

I'm a Zorko owner too RD.

Let us Zorko owners rejoice.  ;D

He helped me get to 40th overall this week.  8)

Still in the hunt, good to see at this time of year. I'll be lucky to crack the top 1000 the way things are going.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Judd Magic on July 10, 2017, 02:25:11 AM
Quote from: Bully on July 10, 2017, 01:55:38 AM
Quote from: Judd Magic on July 10, 2017, 01:05:53 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 09, 2017, 11:26:19 AM
Zorko's BE was 173. No problems he said

Only 6.5% of us have him  ;D

I'm a Zorko owner too RD.

Let us Zorko owners rejoice.  ;D

He helped me get to 40th overall this week.  8)

Still in the hunt, good to see at this time of year. I'll be lucky to crack the top 1000 the way things are going.

Thanks man.

No hope of catching 1st though, he is 800 odd points ahead of me. :(

Just aiming to finish as high as I can. It's the highest I have ever got so I am pretty stoked about that.  :D
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on July 10, 2017, 10:42:35 AM
Quote from: Judd Magic on July 10, 2017, 02:25:11 AM
Quote from: Bully on July 10, 2017, 01:55:38 AM
Quote from: Judd Magic on July 10, 2017, 01:05:53 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 09, 2017, 11:26:19 AM
Zorko's BE was 173. No problems he said

Only 6.5% of us have him  ;D

I'm a Zorko owner too RD.

Let us Zorko owners rejoice.  ;D

He helped me get to 40th overall this week.  8)

Still in the hunt, good to see at this time of year. I'll be lucky to crack the top 1000 the way things are going.

Thanks man.

No hope of catching 1st though, he is 800 odd points ahead of me. :(

Just aiming to finish as high as I can. It's the highest I have ever got so I am pretty stoked about that.  :D

Still a shot, just need some luck with injuries. The last 4 rounds usually brings in the monster scores + the hard luck stories. One score of 2600+ and things start to look posy again, Last year's winner came from nowhere to steal the title.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: tkringle on July 10, 2017, 11:22:14 AM
Quote from: Judd Magic on July 10, 2017, 02:25:11 AM
Quote from: Bully on July 10, 2017, 01:55:38 AM
Quote from: Judd Magic on July 10, 2017, 01:05:53 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 09, 2017, 11:26:19 AM
Zorko's BE was 173. No problems he said

Only 6.5% of us have him  ;D

I'm a Zorko owner too RD.

Let us Zorko owners rejoice.  ;D

He helped me get to 40th overall this week.  8)

Still in the hunt, good to see at this time of year. I'll be lucky to crack the top 1000 the way things are going.

Thanks man.

No hope of catching 1st though, he is 800 odd points ahead of me. :(

Just aiming to finish as high as I can. It's the highest I have ever got so I am pretty stoked about that.  :D

Good luck JM. how many trades do you have left?
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: PowerBug on July 10, 2017, 02:30:20 PM
^ he has 2 left :)



Back to the GOAT, he has a BE of 94 this week and plays the Hawks. If he scores big again there's every chance he goes past $800,000 (Anyone know exactly what he needs?). Would anyone consider selling him, seeing as you'll get a lot of cash from doing so! (I know the answer is probably no, and there's no way I'd sell him, but there might be that one team out there which would benefit from selling haha)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Gigantor on July 10, 2017, 02:37:25 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on July 10, 2017, 02:30:20 PM
^ he has 2 left :)



Back to the GOAT, he has a BE of 94 this week and plays the Hawks. If he scores big again there's every chance he goes past $800,000 (Anyone know exactly what he needs?). Would anyone consider selling him, seeing as you'll get a lot of cash from doing so! (I know the answer is probably no, and there's no way I'd sell him, but there might be that one team out there which would benefit from selling haha)

Low 180's would get him to 800k,

Trading him out is an interesting idea, Danger to Jelwood would pocket you 300k haha
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: dylanclements on July 10, 2017, 04:23:59 PM
Haha! Crazy as this is, I had a similar thought. I almost certainly won't do it. But if it's J Stewart (65) + Danger (145) vs. Yeo (100)  + Merrett (115), or something like that on field...

There're more irrational trades that have worked!
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: tkringle on July 10, 2017, 04:35:51 PM
Quote from: dylanclements on July 10, 2017, 04:23:59 PM
Haha! Crazy as this is, I had a similar thought. I almost certainly won't do it. But if it's J Stewart (65) + Danger (145) vs. Yeo (100)  + Merrett (115), or something like that on field...

There're more irrational trades that have worked!

Got to remember you also lose the perma captain option!
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: MontyJnr on July 13, 2017, 09:31:44 AM
Anyone know his CBA numbers for the Cats game?
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Hellopplz on July 13, 2017, 07:02:17 PM
Final name change here to avoid confusions.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: shaker on July 13, 2017, 07:19:30 PM
Keep the sir but think it's about time GOAT was removed he is nowhere near that title
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Holz on July 14, 2017, 02:12:08 PM
(https://media.mnn.com/assets/images/2016/07/goat-mouth-open-teeth.jpg.838x0_q80.jpg)(http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/b3b6221b4c47672f85a1c3bb80d3bb99)

Ahh now it all makes sense
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: nas on July 14, 2017, 06:40:50 PM
Should be renamed to "Billy!"


(https://media.giphy.com/media/nM7aWabIykeoU/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on July 16, 2017, 04:44:02 PM
This guy is a joke. Worst trade in this year.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: batt on July 16, 2017, 04:59:44 PM
Can't wait for him to leave the Lions... suck everyone in again and disappoint everyone.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on July 16, 2017, 05:12:18 PM
Sir Tom "PettiCOAT" Rockliff

Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Gandalf123 on July 16, 2017, 06:17:32 PM
Take him round back and shoot him
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: North Melbournes Finest on July 16, 2017, 07:41:46 PM
Wow that shoulder injury has completed flowered him, not interested in getting a hardball/clearance or tackle. Soft as butter.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: shaker on July 16, 2017, 08:47:18 PM
Please remove the word GOAT and replace with SPUD , HACK , ORDINARY anything but GOAT unless you are talking about a four legged animal scientific name : capra aegagrus hircus .
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Goosey on July 16, 2017, 09:51:49 PM
Hrmm...methinks Tom needs a seachange? Any chance he's in the red, blue and gold next year?
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Gigantor on July 16, 2017, 10:32:20 PM
Will come to West Coast to join Redden, because we really need another slow midfielder  ::)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Marstar on July 16, 2017, 11:12:28 PM
Quote from: Goosey on July 16, 2017, 09:51:49 PM
Hrmm...methinks Tom needs a seachange? Any chance he's in the red, blue and gold next year?

Change that to Brown and Gold !!!
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: fanTCfool on July 17, 2017, 12:12:48 AM
Cheapening himself off nicely to tempt everyone next year  ::)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Huttabito on July 17, 2017, 12:21:53 PM
Has become an absolute liability.

I don't even want to know the points lost on bringing him in as opposed to anyone. Lost 300 spots in the ranks since bringing him in and now he's lost so much value it's almost impossible to move him on....
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Holz on July 17, 2017, 02:08:18 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on July 17, 2017, 12:12:48 AM
Cheapening himself off nicely to tempt everyone next year  ::)

Locked along with Fyfe.

Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on July 17, 2017, 02:28:37 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 17, 2017, 02:08:18 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on July 17, 2017, 12:12:48 AM
Cheapening himself off nicely to tempt everyone next year  ::)

Locked along with Fyfe.

Shoulder has stuffed his mindset.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Ringo on July 17, 2017, 04:08:35 PM
Quote from: Bully on July 17, 2017, 02:28:37 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 17, 2017, 02:08:18 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on July 17, 2017, 12:12:48 AM
Cheapening himself off nicely to tempt everyone next year  ::)

Locked along with Fyfe.

Shoulder has stuffed his mindset.
This stat says it all and confirms mindset issue
Average Tackles Rds 1 - 8  8.25
Average Tackles Rds 12 - 17 3.8

Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Ricochet on July 17, 2017, 04:19:23 PM
Not just a mindset. He popped his shoulder out. Even with painkillers its painful to tackle and you lack full strength in those tackles too
Will be surprised if he plays every remaining game, but surgery at the end of the year pretty much a given to tighten everything up
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 23, 2017, 07:41:53 PM
Another week, another absolutely pathetic performance. I don't care if he running with Gibbs - he is killing my SC every week for 5-6 weeks running now, and with Finals around the corner he's run out of chances

3/4 time and he is on 42

10000000% I am finally trading this flog this week, and never looking back. He is officially irrelevant in my eyes

Only want to use 1 trade, and have 50k in the kitty so Rocky to Beams is looking the most likely
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bluesalltheway on July 23, 2017, 07:51:36 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 23, 2017, 07:41:53 PM
Another week, another absolutely pathetic performance. I don't care if he running with Gibbs - he is killing my SC every week for 5-6 weeks running now, and with Finals around the corner he's run out of chances

3/4 time and he is on 42

10000000% I am finally trading this flog this week, and never looking back. He is officially irrelevant in my eyes

Only want to use 1 trade, and have 50k in the kitty so Rocky to Beams is looking the most likely

100%. It makes me angry every time I see the name of this thread.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on July 23, 2017, 07:55:57 PM
Worst trade in of the year by a country mile, would have punted his arse if it wasn't for Pendles. Gutted.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: AaronKirk on July 23, 2017, 07:56:41 PM
He is playing a run with role on Gibbs which was really good in the first half from a Lions perspective.

Terrible for my DT.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on July 23, 2017, 08:00:10 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on July 23, 2017, 07:56:41 PM
He is playing a run with role on Gibbs which was really good in the first half from a Lions perspective.

Terrible for my DT.

There's nothing more demoralising than watching a bloke with his back to the ball. I swear I will never touch this spud ever again.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Wanderer on July 23, 2017, 08:49:10 PM
He has only ever had one good year and one super high averaging year but played 18 games that year.  Every other year he has been a total spud.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: batt on July 23, 2017, 08:54:05 PM
2018 lock if he has a full preseason.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on July 23, 2017, 08:54:59 PM
Quote from: batt on July 23, 2017, 08:54:05 PM
2018 lock if he has a full preseason.

You can have him.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: batt on July 23, 2017, 08:56:37 PM
Quote from: Bully on July 23, 2017, 08:54:59 PM
Quote from: batt on July 23, 2017, 08:54:05 PM
2018 lock if he has a full preseason.

You can have him.
The dust will settle and everyone will eventually forgive him.

Maybe.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: SilverLion on July 23, 2017, 11:11:59 PM
Quote from: batt on July 23, 2017, 08:56:37 PM
Quote from: Bully on July 23, 2017, 08:54:59 PM
Quote from: batt on July 23, 2017, 08:54:05 PM
2018 lock if he has a full preseason.

You can have him.
The dust will settle and everyone will eventually forgive him.

Maybe.

Hah.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: dottman on July 24, 2017, 03:33:32 AM
He played a great team role. Unfortunately he seems to vaule Bribane over his supercoach teams. Time to move him along.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: igotworms on July 24, 2017, 10:27:56 AM
Cost me top spot in my cash league, and if I lose this week, possibly top four spot. Had him benched and put him back on just before the bounce for Witherden. Lost by 2 points. With only four trades left, going Rocky to Dusty. Leaves me three trades but no cash. Went Pendles to Titch last week. Was almost Zorko.......... luckily, as I think he might get a week. Cathartic release over.
Ps. Never again Rockliff. You have left me in intensive care with third degree burns!
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: shaker on July 24, 2017, 10:37:35 AM
Quote from: dottman on July 24, 2017, 03:33:32 AM
He played a great team role. Unfortunately he seems to vaule Bribane over his supercoach teams. Time to move him along.
Sometimes I think we all forget that coaches and players don't even think about SC and seeing he did such a good job shutting down Gibbs he might get that job again ? or is it the coach trying to get his gun player back in form by making him accountable for a day ?
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Huttabito on July 24, 2017, 11:22:03 AM
Goodbye Rockliff, hello Z.Merrett.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Ringo on July 24, 2017, 09:04:13 PM
Quote from: shaker on July 24, 2017, 10:37:35 AM
Quote from: dottman on July 24, 2017, 03:33:32 AM
He played a great team role. Unfortunately he seems to vaule Bribane over his supercoach teams. Time to move him along.
Sometimes I think we all forget that coaches and players don't even think about SC and seeing he did such a good job shutting down Gibbs he might get that job again ? or is it the coach trying to get his gun player back in form by making him accountable for a day ?
Another one of Fagans special team assignments (or should I say Danny Daly) who assigned Rocky to run with Gibbs.  Did it well. Not sure will continue though, Can not see him being given a run with role playing Weagles.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: bkimm32 on July 25, 2017, 11:15:06 AM
Unfortunately I have to deal with greene and Pendlebury, and with only 2 trades left and 26k in the kitty it looks as though Rockliff will be holding his spot in my side for the rest of the season as his value is farrrr too low to bother trading out at this point.

Really, really annoying. One of my last upgrades. I had the choice of him and Zorko and chose the wrong option. I'm sitting #406 right now, if I had have taken zorko I'd be comfortably in the top 100.

Oh well that's SuperCoach for ya.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: HappyDEZ on July 25, 2017, 01:24:03 PM
Quote from: Ringo on July 24, 2017, 09:04:13 PM
Quote from: shaker on July 24, 2017, 10:37:35 AM
Quote from: dottman on July 24, 2017, 03:33:32 AM
He played a great team role. Unfortunately he seems to vaule Bribane over his supercoach teams. Time to move him along.
Sometimes I think we all forget that coaches and players don't even think about SC and seeing he did such a good job shutting down Gibbs he might get that job again ? or is it the coach trying to get his gun player back in form by making him accountable for a day ?
Another one of Fagans special team assignments (or should I say Danny Daly) who assigned Rocky to run with Gibbs.  Did it well. Not sure will continue though, Can not see him being given a run with role playing Weagles.
Gaff?
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Ringo on July 25, 2017, 05:34:06 PM
Quote from: HappyDEZ on July 25, 2017, 01:24:03 PM
Quote from: Ringo on July 24, 2017, 09:04:13 PM
Quote from: shaker on July 24, 2017, 10:37:35 AM
Quote from: dottman on July 24, 2017, 03:33:32 AM
He played a great team role. Unfortunately he seems to vaule Bribane over his supercoach teams. Time to move him along.
Sometimes I think we all forget that coaches and players don't even think about SC and seeing he did such a good job shutting down Gibbs he might get that job again ? or is it the coach trying to get his gun player back in form by making him accountable for a day ?
Another one of Fagans special team assignments (or should I say Danny Daly) who assigned Rocky to run with Gibbs.  Did it well. Not sure will continue though, Can not see him being given a run with role playing Weagles.
Gaff?
Can not see it now with Zorko out and Robbo back.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: HappyDEZ on July 25, 2017, 05:45:20 PM
Quote from: Ringo on July 25, 2017, 05:34:06 PM
Quote from: HappyDEZ on July 25, 2017, 01:24:03 PM
Quote from: Ringo on July 24, 2017, 09:04:13 PM
Quote from: shaker on July 24, 2017, 10:37:35 AM
Quote from: dottman on July 24, 2017, 03:33:32 AM
He played a great team role. Unfortunately he seems to vaule Bribane over his supercoach teams. Time to move him along.
Sometimes I think we all forget that coaches and players don't even think about SC and seeing he did such a good job shutting down Gibbs he might get that job again ? or is it the coach trying to get his gun player back in form by making him accountable for a day ?
Another one of Fagans special team assignments (or should I say Danny Daly) who assigned Rocky to run with Gibbs.  Did it well. Not sure will continue though, Can not see him being given a run with role playing Weagles.
Gaff?
Can not see it now with Zorko out and Robbo back.
True, I didn't consider the one week to Zorko or Robbo back from suspension.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 25, 2017, 11:04:01 PM
I think I might be forced to keep Rocky

As horrible as he has been, I just don't know if trading him to Beams (my only option) is actually worth it?

What a mess this has become. Is he any chance at all of turning things around?

I've looked at every scenario and Beams, possibly Cotchin are my only 2 options, but I just can't see those options actually being worth a trade

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: kosduras on July 26, 2017, 10:42:17 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 25, 2017, 11:04:01 PM
I think I might be forced to keep Rocky

As horrible as he has been, I just don't know if trading him to Beams (my only option) is actually worth it?

What a mess this has become. Is he any chance at all of turning things around?

I've looked at every scenario and Beams, possibly Cotchin are my only 2 options, but I just can't see those options actually being worth a trade

Thoughts?

in the same boat RD, cant justify losing rocky for beams/cotch, only way i can see myself making any trades with rocky is if i make two trades,
parsons to glass/young
rocky > dusty
feel a little better about that
but then again im using two trades
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Ricochet on July 26, 2017, 04:26:24 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 25, 2017, 11:04:01 PM
What a mess this has become. Is he any chance at all of turning things around?
With a bung shoulder, i doubt it
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Blues Blues Blues on July 26, 2017, 05:45:01 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 26, 2017, 04:26:24 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 25, 2017, 11:04:01 PM
What a mess this has become. Is he any chance at all of turning things around?
With a bung shoulder, i doubt it

Is his shoulder "bunged"?
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Ricochet on July 27, 2017, 09:52:32 AM
Quote from: Blues Blues Blues on July 26, 2017, 05:45:01 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 26, 2017, 04:26:24 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 25, 2017, 11:04:01 PM
What a mess this has become. Is he any chance at all of turning things around?
With a bung shoulder, i doubt it

Is his shoulder "bunged"?
Yeh it popped out. Dont know his history of that shoulder coming out but if its a new one itll be bloody sore still and would have done some damage
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on July 27, 2017, 11:14:51 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 27, 2017, 09:52:32 AM
Quote from: Blues Blues Blues on July 26, 2017, 05:45:01 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 26, 2017, 04:26:24 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 25, 2017, 11:04:01 PM
What a mess this has become. Is he any chance at all of turning things around?
With a bung shoulder, i doubt it

Is his shoulder "bunged"?
Yeh it popped out. Dont know his history of that shoulder coming out but if its a new one itll be bloody sore still and would have done some damage
Not new, but i heard a few weeks back that he might have flowered the right one as well. Absolutely zero confirmation on that though.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: igotworms on July 27, 2017, 06:18:14 PM
With only four trades left, I can go straight swap Rocky to Beams! Thoughts? Have plenty of cover on all lines, including Greenwood and Witherden. Unfortuntately, I have Greene as well. Thinking I might hold Greene, and do the above trade. What do you guys think? Sitting about 3000 overall, so no chance there, but going well in my leagues $$$.

a) Straight swap Rocky to Beams.
b) Double trade Rocky and one of my bench players to Dusty and Young with approx. $150K left over. If things go well I may be able to use the final two trades to upgrade Lynch to Ryder.
c) Keep those trades Wormy boy!!
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on July 27, 2017, 07:00:21 PM
Quote from: igotworms on July 27, 2017, 06:18:14 PM
With only four trades left, I can go straight swap Rocky to Beams! Thoughts? Have plenty of cover on all lines, including Greenwood and Witherden. Unfortuntately, I have Greene as well. Thinking I might hold Greene, and do the above trade. What do you guys think? Sitting about 3000 overall, so no chance there, but going well in my leagues $$$.

a) Straight swap Rocky to Beams.
b) Double trade Rocky and one of my bench players to Dusty and Young with approx. $150K left over. If things go well I may be able to use the final two trades to upgrade Lynch to Ryder.
c) Keep those trades Wormy boy!!

This is the last opportunity to trade Rocky out for a decent premo, I'm doing it.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: igotworms on July 27, 2017, 07:16:04 PM
Thanks Bully, you have just affirmed my decision to flower him off. Straight to Beams me thinks!!??
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 27, 2017, 07:40:27 PM
Call me crazy, but I'm going to hold Rocky. Can't justify Rocky to Beams - too sideways

No Zorko this week. This is Rocky's week to repay the faith!
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Dudge on July 27, 2017, 08:01:06 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 27, 2017, 07:40:27 PM
Call me crazy, but I'm going to hold Rocky. Can't justify Rocky to Beams - too sideways

No Zorko this week. This is Rocky's week to repay the faith!

With no confidence what-so-ever, i'll probably hold as well. A big factor is, i'm very low on trades
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Ringo on July 27, 2017, 10:01:54 PM
Quote from: Dudge on July 27, 2017, 08:01:06 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 27, 2017, 07:40:27 PM
Call me crazy, but I'm going to hold Rocky. Can't justify Rocky to Beams - too sideways

No Zorko this week. This is Rocky's week to repay the faith!

With no confidence what-so-ever, i'll probably hold as well. A big factor is, i'm very low on trades
Also holding but contemplating playing Witherden on field with Rocky e, Hard to loophole this week.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Blues Blues Blues on July 27, 2017, 10:07:31 PM
BE of 133 and expected to plummet again. I'm cutting my losses me thinks
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: sammy123 on July 27, 2017, 10:12:52 PM
Glad i traded him the 1st injury. Giving coaches headaches at wrong end of season
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: no eye deer on July 27, 2017, 10:31:50 PM
Punted for Beams. Could backfire, but can't afford to let him bleed more cash. He's had too many chances.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on July 30, 2017, 08:45:55 PM
Quote from: no eye deer on July 27, 2017, 10:31:50 PM
Punted for Beams. Could backfire, but can't afford to let him bleed more cash. He's had too many chances.

Did the same and it saved my bacon this week. Rocky is done as a SC player.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 30, 2017, 09:21:53 PM
Quote from: Bully on July 30, 2017, 08:45:55 PM
Quote from: no eye deer on July 27, 2017, 10:31:50 PM
Punted for Beams. Could backfire, but can't afford to let him bleed more cash. He's had too many chances.

Did the same and it saved my bacon this week. Rocky is done as a SC player.

Wish I did the same thing

Was so damn close to fielding Witherden over Rocky, but of course I gave this hack another chance and for the 6th or 7th week running he burnt me

If I can afford it, Rocky to Beams this week. I'm done
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Huttabito on July 30, 2017, 09:27:04 PM
Glad I booted him this week. For the 1 extra point Z.Merrett offered and the (C) duties :'(
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Wanderer on July 30, 2017, 10:08:49 PM
Quote from: Huttabito on July 30, 2017, 09:27:04 PM
Glad I booted him this week. For the 1 extra point Z.Merrett offered and the (C) duties :'(
+1 but not the (c)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: HappyDEZ on July 30, 2017, 10:12:24 PM
Quote from: Huttabito on July 30, 2017, 09:27:04 PM
Glad I booted him this week. For the 1 extra point Z.Merrett offered and the (C) duties :'(
Done the exact same thing Hutt. No (C) tho. $150K diff or whatever it was. A very expensive point. Not impressed.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: rfc4eva on July 31, 2017, 02:12:35 AM
So badly want to get rid of this useless seagull.Have him GAJ and JPK and still need to upgrade Greenwood with 4 trades!
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Marstar on July 31, 2017, 08:23:00 AM
Finally got rid of my fav SC player too. Rock -> Beam (C). Had to done.

Won, finished 1st in the League, went passed go and collected $200.

3 trades + $120k left for finals and sitting at rank 800 flat.

D6 Newman (Witheran)
M8 Sloane/JPK/Selwood ... i know right? (Witheran/Mountford)
F6 Nank (Greenwood)

Can afford Newman -> Savage/Roberton and Nank/Greenwood -> Billing ... but that will leave me with 1 trade  :-\
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Holz on July 31, 2017, 08:32:45 AM
Round 23 2017: Everyone will be saying ill never pick this spud up again.
Round 1 2018: Top 10 selected mid.

90% chance he is in my round 1 squad. clearly hampered by injury.

I think he will be about 500k. 123 average before the injury.

Lock


Danger Dmart Rocky Fyfe Bont

Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Wanderer on July 31, 2017, 09:59:29 AM
If you look at his history, he has only had one reasonable year (where he scored ok and wasn't injured too much). He had one massive year averaging 132 but only played 18 games.  All the other years he was either injured or didn't score well.  Just too big a risk and liability.  Never again.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Holz on July 31, 2017, 10:29:04 AM
Quote from: Wanderer on July 31, 2017, 09:59:29 AM
If you look at his history, he has only had one reasonable year (where he scored ok and wasn't injured too much). He had one massive year averaging 132 but only played 18 games.  All the other years he was either injured or didn't score well.  Just too big a risk and liability.  Never again.

2013 he played 21 games for 110.

2011 he played 20 games for 114

your right on the last 3 years though.

Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 31, 2017, 11:21:11 AM
The recent years are what is relevant though

Shades of Ryan Griffin with this bloke

Never again for me. There's more than enough much more reliable good scorers to chose from

You don't have a big edge by having Rocky, it works against you
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Holz on July 31, 2017, 12:21:58 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 31, 2017, 11:21:11 AM
The recent years are what is relevant though

Shades of Ryan Griffin with this bloke

Never again for me. There's more than enough much more reliable good scorers to chose from

You don't have a big edge by having Rocky, it works against you

kinda depends if he stays healthy or not. You might have a big edge, or as you say it might work against you.

I you started him this year he was still a good pick up, 123 over the first 8 rounds and then he cost you a trade but he made cash.

If you kept him or traded him in you got burnt big time.

He has played 28 of the last 30 games and assuming he plays the year out, he has missed 25 games in the last 8 years. Not great but not too bad.

The interesting comparison is Nat Fyfe, will people look at him next year. He is actually more injury prone then Rocky. With a 123 in the last month he will be on Peoples radars too.




Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 31, 2017, 01:58:01 PM
Fyfe is an easy pick over Rocky

At least when he's down he still puts up 90+ and not this constant 50-70 rubbish Rocky does
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: no eye deer on July 31, 2017, 02:14:44 PM
Quote from: Bully on July 30, 2017, 08:45:55 PM
Quote from: no eye deer on July 27, 2017, 10:31:50 PM
Punted for Beams. Could backfire, but can't afford to let him bleed more cash. He's had too many chances.

Did the same and it saved my bacon this week. Rocky is done as a SC player.

Turns out I miscalculated andwas $1500 short of the trade. So the extra cash made by Ryan this week will be needed to complete the Rocky/Beams trade. Plus I need to do three trades this week. Spewing, Just glad I finished top four and have a second chance if I lose this week
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Carn on July 31, 2017, 02:16:14 PM
...so 3 trades, tight prelim final, only 10k cash.
Double trade to get a premo or let it ride and just play Witherden?
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: tkringle on August 11, 2017, 07:51:54 AM
Clutching at straws here for my Jelwood replacement I know! But how did Rocky play last weekend? Any signs he could lift?
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Deadly6 on August 11, 2017, 09:59:50 AM
Quote from: tkringle on August 11, 2017, 07:51:54 AM
Clutching at straws here for my Jelwood replacement I know! But how did Rocky play last weekend? Any signs he could lift?

When he ran out onto the ground and warmed up he tried to do a few star jumps but couldn't lift his arms above his head...so his shoulder is still rooted. I know we're all bagging him but footy is a hard game to play when you've only got one arm. He'll be back, just may not be this week.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Ringo on August 11, 2017, 11:25:06 AM
Quote from: Deadly6 on August 11, 2017, 09:59:50 AM
Quote from: tkringle on August 11, 2017, 07:51:54 AM
Clutching at straws here for my Jelwood replacement I know! But how did Rocky play last weekend? Any signs he could lift?

When he ran out onto the ground and warmed up he tried to do a few star jumps but couldn't lift his arms above his head...so his shoulder is still rooted. I know we're all bagging him but footy is a hard game to play when you've only got one arm. He'll be back, just may not be this week.
He is slowly working back into it.  The pleasing part for me was that he laid 4 tackles and had 10 contested possessions. He will struggle with shoulder though till end of season.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: North Melbournes Finest on August 11, 2017, 04:39:52 PM
104 last week with 10 minutes game time left, though he was poised to go 120 but couldn't get near it late.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: meow meow on October 10, 2017, 07:00:01 PM
Was a fantasy gun when he could play kick to kick with Redden and again when he created 10 pointless double stoppages with his tackles at the initial stoppage. He might have to play team football now. GOAT? More like just plain old Tom Rockliff now.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Hawka on October 10, 2017, 07:03:58 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 10, 2017, 07:00:01 PM
Was a fantasy gun when he could play kick to kick with Redden and again when he created 10 pointless double stoppages with his tackles at the initial stoppage. He might have to play team football now. GOAT? More like just plain old Tom Rockliff now.
Hard to see many teams picking him
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Money Shot on October 10, 2017, 08:06:23 PM
Was thinking about this today too. I reckon he will be a pod and he could be a good one as well. Will playing with good players actually get him back to that 120+ average or take away a few of his points!?
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2017, 09:01:25 PM
Will pick him in 2019 when he's a fwd/mid
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: crowls on October 13, 2017, 08:12:36 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2017, 09:01:25 PM
Will pick him in 2019 when he's a fwd/mid
+1
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: SilverLion on December 05, 2017, 02:28:47 PM
Can I change my vote? ::)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Grufflez on December 06, 2017, 06:48:02 AM
Not sure i am buying into the whole Rocky playing fwd a lot thing.
A bloke on another forum from Port mentioned how skinny Robbie Gray looks after cancer + chemo.
Would make more sense to have Gray playing predominately fwd for the first half of the year over Rocky.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Ricochet on December 06, 2017, 10:07:28 AM
Quote from: Grufflez on December 06, 2017, 06:48:02 AM
Not sure i am buying into the whole Rocky playing fwd a lot thing.
A bloke on another forum from Port mentioned how skinny Robbie Gray looks after cancer + chemo.
Would make more sense to have Gray playing predominately fwd for the first half of the year over Rocky.
Gray played predominantly fwd this year gone. If he's fit and healthy come round 1 you'd think they'd want his class around the ball more than they could this year
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: quinny88 on December 07, 2017, 06:43:34 PM
Hasn't Rocky said himself he'll be playing more forward?
I'm not going anywhere near the port players until I see how the gel and where they play. Perfect upgrade targets for after their early bye
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: crowls on December 09, 2017, 12:38:51 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on December 07, 2017, 06:43:34 PM
I'm not going anywhere near the port players until I see how the gel and where they play. Perfect upgrade targets for after their early bye
good decision.   
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Grufflez on December 12, 2017, 05:03:01 PM
Won't play forward anywhere near as much as suggested, Gray recovering from cancer, Watts added, Wingard still preferred up forward, big Dix their number one priority.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: elephants on December 12, 2017, 05:08:41 PM
Quote from: Grufflez on December 12, 2017, 05:03:01 PM
Won't play forward anywhere near as much as suggested, Gray recovering from cancer, Watts added, Wingard still preferred up forward, big Dix their number one priority.

I'd expect a 70/30 split. Can certainly see him spending a chunk fwd, probably rotate with someone like Boak who has been thrown fwd in biiiig chunks last season
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: meow meow on December 12, 2017, 07:01:22 PM
This spud will lose his spot in the team to Toumpas by years end. That's if he even makes it to the end of the season without breaking down three times.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: enzedder on January 07, 2018, 11:47:32 AM
Quote from: crowls on December 09, 2017, 12:38:51 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on December 07, 2017, 06:43:34 PM
I'm not going anywhere near the port players until I see how the gel and where they play. Perfect upgrade targets for after their early bye
good decision.
This. After R10 we'll know how Rocky, Gray and Wingard are playing and scoring. They are all best forgotten till then.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: SilverLion on January 07, 2018, 08:12:45 PM
Quote from: crowls on December 09, 2017, 12:38:51 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on December 07, 2017, 06:43:34 PM
I'm not going anywhere near the port players until I see how the gel and where they play. Perfect upgrade targets for after their early bye
good decision.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: quinny88 on January 07, 2018, 09:29:16 PM
Quote from: enzedder on January 07, 2018, 11:47:32 AM
Quote from: crowls on December 09, 2017, 12:38:51 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on December 07, 2017, 06:43:34 PM
I'm not going anywhere near the port players until I see how the gel and where they play. Perfect upgrade targets for after their early bye
good decision.
This. After R10 we'll know how Rocky, Gray and Wingard are playing and scoring. They are all best forgotten till then.

Boak as well. Add all of those to Tom Lynch and Barlow and there could be some great options to load up on leading into the byes
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: enzedder on January 08, 2018, 06:42:26 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on January 07, 2018, 09:29:16 PM
Quote from: enzedder on January 07, 2018, 11:47:32 AM
Quote from: crowls on December 09, 2017, 12:38:51 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on December 07, 2017, 06:43:34 PM
I'm not going anywhere near the port players until I see how the gel and where they play. Perfect upgrade targets for after their early bye
good decision.
This. After R10 we'll know how Rocky, Gray and Wingard are playing and scoring. They are all best forgotten till then.

Boak as well. Add all of those to Tom Lynch and Barlow and there could be some great options to load up on leading into the byes
Yeah I agree.
After last year I was prepared to pay up for Ryder as set and forget ruck but the bye stuffed that up.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Peter on January 08, 2018, 08:17:28 AM
Crowls has the right advice - in SC, what until after byes
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Grufflez on January 08, 2018, 10:21:18 PM
Will likely start unless something looks horribly wrong in preseason or he develops niggles prior to R1
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Colty on February 27, 2018, 09:37:39 AM
The only question is his role to much forward based?
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: shaker on February 27, 2018, 09:56:10 AM
Better players to start with plus R10 bye and injured or sore so pass for me
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: ubeaut on February 27, 2018, 10:23:56 AM
Rocky could be an awesome POD. I started him last year and he smashed it early. Then injuries happened.
It's not his bye, if it stops people picking him then even better. He can easily be covered in the mids.
It's not his new team he's said he'll play mostly Midfield, he's in a better team with lower scoring mids in Ebert and Wines compared to sharing less points with Zorko and Beams.
It's obviously not his cost he's a bargain buy, way underpriced for what he can do.
Only thing stopping me is injuries. If he stays fit don't be surprised if he's one of the top scoring mids pre bye. Then everyone will want him but he'll be 100 k more.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: meow meow on February 27, 2018, 08:09:21 PM
Hasn't even played a match yet and he's sore/injured.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: crowls on February 28, 2018, 07:52:09 PM
Quote from: meow meow on February 27, 2018, 08:09:21 PM
Hasn't even played a match yet and he's sore/injured.
See him as a stepping stone strategy if he was to be used.    Max his price until bye or injured and pick up a hopefully cheaper Dusty or Merrett or Oliver
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Ringo on March 05, 2018, 04:59:43 PM
Hearing reports he still getting over the injury and may not play in Saturdays JLT.  Bit of a risk going into a season with no match practice.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: crowls on March 05, 2018, 09:42:46 PM
Quote from: Ringo on March 05, 2018, 04:59:43 PM
Hearing reports he still getting over the injury and may not play in Saturdays JLT.  Bit of a risk going into a season with no match practice.
c'mon ringo,  this rocky,  probably knock out a 57 or a 180 just as much chance of either. 
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Perthwildcat on March 17, 2018, 03:59:31 PM
Still on the fence with this one
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on March 17, 2018, 04:33:55 PM
Is he still in doubt for rd1?
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 17, 2018, 05:10:07 PM
Might not be fit, crap bye, pass

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,97048.0.html
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Rowy on March 19, 2018, 08:54:12 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 17, 2018, 05:10:07 PM
Might not be fit, crap bye, pass

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,97048.0.html


ok i'm a bit confused with why the early bye is bad. Can you explain why the early bye is any different to 3 later byes? Isn't a bye a bye regardless? If somebody rates the Port or GC players regardless of who they are the bye shouldn't have any effect. 
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: ubeaut on March 19, 2018, 09:04:10 AM
Quote from: Rowy on March 19, 2018, 08:54:12 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 17, 2018, 05:10:07 PM
Might not be fit, crap bye, pass

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,97048.0.html


ok i'm a bit confused with why the early bye is bad. Can you explain why the early bye is any different to 3 later byes? Isn't a bye a bye regardless? If somebody rates the Port or GC players regardless of who they are the bye shouldn't have any effect.
You have all 22 players count rather than 18 in the other 3 byes.
Having said that I'm not against having one r10 bye player as long as u can cover them. It's not very different to having a short term injury/suspension on any given round. Essentially if someone like Rocky or Ryder who can make up for points lost with high avg scores.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Rowy on March 19, 2018, 12:34:35 PM
thanks ubeaut.  I briefly forgot about the 22 players counting during port and GC byes
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: SilverLion on April 16, 2018, 11:15:11 AM
What has Port done to the great man? ???
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: kilbluff1985 on April 16, 2018, 11:15:49 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on April 16, 2018, 11:15:11 AM
What has Port done to the great man? ???

it's the Adelaide water
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Holz on April 16, 2018, 11:20:17 AM
might be a good downgrade option to free up some cash by trading out Holman in a couple of weeks. Looks to have decent Job security.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 16, 2018, 11:30:29 AM
Quote from: Holz on April 16, 2018, 11:20:17 AM
might be a good downgrade option to free up some cash by trading out Holman in a couple of weeks. Looks to have decent Job security.

;D
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: jvalles69 on May 11, 2018, 10:14:18 AM
Bump.

Will be watching the pig with great interest over the next few weeks.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Holz on May 11, 2018, 10:19:45 AM
I actually think he might be able to bounce back with some ok form. Plays this round and next plays decently but drops to 350k. I may be looking at him after his round 10 bye to be my m9.

Totally opening myself up to this being quoted in a few weeks and me looking stupid.


Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: jvalles69 on May 11, 2018, 10:24:59 AM
Quote from: Holz on May 11, 2018, 10:19:45 AM
I actually think he might be able to bounce back with some ok form. Plays this round and next plays decently but drops to 350k. I may be looking at him after his round 10 bye to be my m9.

Totally opening myself up to this being quoted in a few weeks and me looking stupid.

I'll back you on this and we can go down with the ship together.  ;D
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Maca24 on May 11, 2018, 01:09:35 PM
It's hard to fathom how he could fall this far after being a superstar of the competition.
Why he gets tagging roles is beyond me
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: sammy123 on May 11, 2018, 02:56:45 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on May 11, 2018, 01:09:35 PM
It's hard to fathom how he could fall this far after being a superstar of the competition.
Why he gets tagging roles is beyond me

Guess port didnt want him to b a beast mid
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: MontyJnr on May 11, 2018, 03:28:26 PM
Quote from: sammy123 on May 11, 2018, 02:56:45 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on May 11, 2018, 01:09:35 PM
It's hard to fathom how he could fall this far after being a superstar of the competition.
Why he gets tagging roles is beyond me

Guess port didnt want him to b a beast mid

What I find puzzling is how they moved Gray to a forward pocket role last year, before recruiting a gun mid in Rocky at the end of the season.

Now they decide to move Gray BACK to the midfield, so there is no room for Rocky to play there? ???

I thought he was a good pick up at the time, but would've thought differently if I knew Port were gonna structure up like this.....
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: frenzy on May 11, 2018, 03:39:48 PM
Quote from: MontyJnr on May 11, 2018, 03:28:26 PM
Quote from: sammy123 on May 11, 2018, 02:56:45 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on May 11, 2018, 01:09:35 PM
It's hard to fathom how he could fall this far after being a superstar of the competition.
Why he gets tagging roles is beyond me

Guess port didnt want him to b a beast mid

What I find puzzling is how they moved Gray to a forward pocket role last year, before recruiting a gun mid in Rocky at the end of the season.

Now they decide to move Gray BACK to the midfield, so there is no room for Rocky to play there? ???

I thought he was a good pick up at the time, but would've thought differently if I knew Port were gonna structure up like this.....

Rocky used to stink it up at Brissy when Voss played him in the FWDs. I do recall trading him out, because he was destroyed.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on May 12, 2018, 07:25:20 PM
Looking much better today, could be a viable option post bye.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: batt on May 12, 2018, 08:32:43 PM
We're all gonna be downgrading to him in round 11 haha.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: PowerBug on May 12, 2018, 09:19:38 PM
Much better is an understatement. That was brilliant
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: jvalles69 on May 14, 2018, 01:49:37 PM
Anyone watch the game?  What was his role, all guts, guts and fwd?
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: frenzy on May 14, 2018, 07:46:28 PM
Quote from: batt on May 12, 2018, 08:32:43 PM
We're all gonna be downgrading to him in round 11 haha.

same price as Billings, for the sideways.   ;)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on May 14, 2018, 07:47:41 PM
Quote from: frenzy on May 14, 2018, 07:46:28 PM
Quote from: batt on May 12, 2018, 08:32:43 PM
We're all gonna be downgrading to him in round 11 haha.

same price as Billings, for the sideways.   ;)

Now that's something I didn't consider, worth contemplating.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: elephants on May 14, 2018, 09:28:04 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on May 14, 2018, 01:49:37 PM
Anyone watch the game?  What was his role, all guts, guts and fwd?

Didn't watch the game but based on the stats (31 touches, 4 marks, 9 tackles, 3FF) and his score (127) I would assume he played mids.

That, and Gray played fwd and kicked 6. Love what I am seeing from Rocky!
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Ricochet on May 14, 2018, 09:35:21 PM
Still not sure if I can bring myself to do it
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: _wato on May 14, 2018, 09:39:08 PM
Just curious, did Rocky's return spell more forward time for RGray?
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on May 14, 2018, 09:40:16 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 14, 2018, 09:28:04 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on May 14, 2018, 01:49:37 PM
Anyone watch the game?  What was his role, all guts, guts and fwd?

Didn't watch the game but based on the stats (31 touches, 4 marks, 9 tackles, 3FF) and his score (127) I would assume he played mids.

That, and Gray played fwd and kicked 6. Love what I am seeing from Rocky!

He scored 98 in SC.

Still a high BE so can definitely wait until after the bye. Might even consider Kelly to Rocky in 2 weeks, that trade could possibly yeild 80k.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on May 14, 2018, 09:41:25 PM
Quote from: _wato on May 14, 2018, 09:39:08 PM
Just curious, did Rocky's return spell more forward time for RGray?

It could, will just have to wait and see.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: _wato on May 14, 2018, 09:52:35 PM
Quote from: Bully on May 14, 2018, 09:41:25 PM
Quote from: _wato on May 14, 2018, 09:39:08 PM
Just curious, did Rocky's return spell more forward time for RGray?

It could, will just have to wait and see.

I think it already has. Drop in disposal numbers to 20, only 7 CP's and 5 CL, and apart from his 75 point 3rd quarter didn't really do much. Will be monitoring that closely.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: ubeaut on May 14, 2018, 09:57:18 PM
Quote from: _wato on May 14, 2018, 09:52:35 PM
Quote from: Bully on May 14, 2018, 09:41:25 PM
Quote from: _wato on May 14, 2018, 09:39:08 PM
Just curious, did Rocky's return spell more forward time for RGray?

It could, will just have to wait and see.

I think it already has. Drop in disposal numbers to 20, only 7 CP's and 5 CL, and apart from his 75 point 3rd quarter didn't really do much. Will be monitoring that closely.
Bloody Rocky. Was set to bring in Gray finally, looks like a no go now, especially with a bye coming up. Missing the bye didn't worry me so much as it's an extra premo for the other 3.
Rocky playing mid is the huge turnoff.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Mongoose528 on May 14, 2018, 10:06:49 PM
Did he have any effect on Boak's numbers?
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: PowerBug on May 14, 2018, 10:18:13 PM
Quote from: Mongoose528 on May 14, 2018, 10:06:49 PM
Did he have any effect on Boak's numbers?
First thing I noticed in the game was Boak spending time deep fwd. I think that might be one to monitor in Rd 9 and Rd 11 and making a call before Rd 12.

I'm not worried about Gray. Look at last year he put up a 90avg playing pure fwd and being injured. No way we subject him to being a 100% fwd with the way he has been playing in the midfield (just look at his 4th goal of the 3rd qtr to see why we need him roving to Ryder). Worst case he is a 95avg player from here on which is still fine for a fwd premo slot, if I didn't have him I'd be getting him Rd 11 regardless of price.

Rocky hasn't burnt me like he has burnt others, I don't think I've ever owned him in SC. Certainly one I will be looking to jump on Rd 11.

My order for Port players post bye: Gray 1st, Ryder (Only if you need to jump off a spud i.e. Goldy), Rocky, Westhoff, and Boak 5th.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Mongoose528 on May 15, 2018, 12:16:35 AM
Quote from: PowerBug on May 14, 2018, 10:18:13 PM
Quote from: Mongoose528 on May 14, 2018, 10:06:49 PM
Did he have any effect on Boak's numbers?
First thing I noticed in the game was Boak spending time deep fwd. I think that might be one to monitor in Rd 9 and Rd 11 and making a call before Rd 12.

I'm not worried about Gray. Look at last year he put up a 90avg playing pure fwd and being injured. No way we subject him to being a 100% fwd with the way he has been playing in the midfield (just look at his 4th goal of the 3rd qtr to see why we need him roving to Ryder). Worst case he is a 95avg player from here on which is still fine for a fwd premo slot, if I didn't have him I'd be getting him Rd 11 regardless of price.

Rocky hasn't burnt me like he has burnt others, I don't think I've ever owned him in SC. Certainly one I will be looking to jump on Rd 11.

My order for Port players post bye: Gray 1st, Ryder (Only if you need to jump off a spud i.e. Goldy), Rocky, Westhoff, and Boak 5th.

Cheers for the response, might do Henry -> Gray in R11.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: ubeaut on May 15, 2018, 06:16:33 PM
Well I am worried about Gray.
I'm not paying 560k for a fwd who's averaged 116 for owners,only to drop to a 90-95 average from here on.
That doesn't add up.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Hoggyz_a_legend on May 16, 2018, 04:11:58 PM
Quote from: ubeaut on May 15, 2018, 06:16:33 PM
Well I am worried about Gray.
I'm not paying 560k for a fwd who's averaged 116 for owners,only to drop to a 90-95 average from here on.
That doesn't add up.

This is my exact thoughts. I was going to bring him in staright after his bye, but I might wait a week to see what his role might be. I don't want those <50 scores from last year scattered amonst 120+ scores just cos he isn't kicking 4 goals a game as a permanent fwd.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on May 16, 2018, 09:27:50 PM
A big game in China & I will be going Kelly to Rocky, Goldy to Ryder. Could be a season defining shuffle.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: The Saltshaker on May 18, 2018, 04:31:22 AM
Yes, Voss did play the Rockpig fwd and he bombed, was like 6 games or so? Didnt work, returned to mids rnd 14 i think? avg 127 for rest of season...

Attended 19CBAs vs Adelaide, had new role so yes it will effect Grays midfield time. Their fwd line hasnt been potent as Hoff had to ruck, Dixon trying to find touch,kicking 5 in a qtr? well that will do it, Robbie Gray will be fwd more from here on out. Still solid option before he went mid in his career. After cancer Robbie has a grit, a seniority to him, he looks very focussed this year. Can play...was noted goal kicker.

21d eg avg from here out, should get a few more marks and creative goals/score assists

As for Rocky he was tackling, he hasnt tackled since his his inj where he was avg 123sc ranked #1 player at time of inj.

378k is cheap Rockpig, will watch China game then make call could be great POD vs those going Oliver or Crouch. No Polec should score well against the GC witchs hats.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: waldorfs wizards on May 18, 2018, 09:13:11 AM
Quote from: The Saltshaker on May 18, 2018, 04:31:22 AM
Yes, Voss did play the Rockpig fwd and he bombed, was like 6 games or so? Didnt work, returned to mids rnd 14 i think? avg 127 for rest of season...

Attended 19CBAs vs Adelaide, had new role so yes it will effect Grays midfield time. Their fwd line hasnt been potent as Hoff had to ruck, Dixon trying to find touch,kicking 5 in a qtr? well that will do it, Robbie Gray will be fwd more from here on out. Still solid option before he went mid in his career. After cancer Robbie has a grit, a seniority to him, he looks very focussed this year. Can play...was noted goal kicker.

21d eg avg from here out, should get a few more marks and creative goals/score assists

As for Rocky he was tackling, he hasnt tackled since his his inj where he was avg 123sc ranked #1 player at time of inj.

378k is cheap Rockpig, will watch China game then make call could be great POD vs those going Oliver or Crouch. No Polec should score well against the GC witchs hats.

Where do you find these stats about Centre Bounce Attendances? think this is going to be a crucial stat for Gray moving forward because Rocky the Pig is looking really tasty!
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: SilverLion on May 18, 2018, 10:19:12 AM
Could bring him in after their bye, but would mean I'd miss out on one of Danger/Macrae...
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on May 18, 2018, 11:57:37 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on May 18, 2018, 10:19:12 AM
Could bring him in after their bye, but would mean I'd miss out on one of Danger/Macrae...

Rocky is as good a cash cow as any rookie. Even having him on the bench would be a massive advantage.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on May 18, 2018, 01:59:09 PM
Scores a 98 and the FF hysteria is back in full swing
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on May 18, 2018, 02:02:37 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 18, 2018, 01:59:09 PM
Scores a 98 and the FF hysteria is back in full swing

It was the way he played Raisy, looked really good. For 380k & knowing his ceiling, not to mention the extra game over the bye period, he's absolutely a contender.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: The Saltshaker on May 18, 2018, 03:01:12 PM
Quote from: waldorfs wizards on May 18, 2018, 09:13:11 AM
Quote from: The Saltshaker on May 18, 2018, 04:31:22 AM
Yes, Voss did play the Rockpig fwd and he bombed, was like 6 games or so? Didnt work, returned to mids rnd 14 i think? avg 127 for rest of season...

Attended 19CBAs vs Adelaide, had new role so yes it will effect Grays midfield time. Their fwd line hasnt been potent as Hoff had to ruck, Dixon trying to find touch,kicking 5 in a qtr? well that will do it, Robbie Gray will be fwd more from here on out. Still solid option before he went mid in his career. After cancer Robbie has a grit, a seniority to him, he looks very focussed this year. Can play...was noted goal kicker.

21d eg avg from here out, should get a few more marks and creative goals/score assists

As for Rocky he was tackling, he hasnt tackled since his his inj where he was avg 123sc ranked #1 player at time of inj.

378k is cheap Rockpig, will watch China game then make call could be great POD vs those going Oliver or Crouch. No Polec should score well against the GC witchs hats.

Where do you find these stats about Centre Bounce Attendances? think this is going to be a crucial stat for Gray moving forward because Rocky the Pig is looking really tasty!

Was on Traders podcast i think AFL Fantasy on afl.com.au
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Colty on May 18, 2018, 04:35:13 PM
My team is such a train wreck and im 2-4 in both cash leagues i moght as well try him.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: jvalles69 on May 18, 2018, 04:40:03 PM
Quote from: Colty on May 18, 2018, 04:35:13 PM
My team is such a train wreck and im 2-4 in both cash leagues i moght as well try him.

Are you sure decisions like this aren't the cause to the train wreck?  :P ;)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Brikett on May 18, 2018, 06:11:32 PM
Absolute madness.

"Looks good" in one game for a grand total of 98 points, and people are seriously considering a sideways from TK after one decent showing.

There are risks, and then there's this.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: The Saltshaker on May 19, 2018, 03:13:16 AM
He's baack...dont fake the funk on a nasty dunk...its the rockpig
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: iZander on May 19, 2018, 10:52:04 AM
if he plays the same role this week then ill get him, purely because its so perfect for the byes
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: elephants on May 19, 2018, 11:37:22 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 18, 2018, 01:59:09 PM
Scores a 98 and the FF hysteria is back in full swing

127 in DT against one of the best teams in the comp playing full time midfield ::)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 19, 2018, 05:01:58 PM
cough cough
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on May 19, 2018, 05:17:33 PM
Holman to Rocky won't break the balance. Have a week to work out how to get him in.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Gigantor on May 19, 2018, 05:21:29 PM
Have 7 mids plus Tkelly, not sure if i can bring him in
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on May 19, 2018, 05:22:30 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on May 19, 2018, 05:21:29 PM
Have 7 mids plus Tkelly, not sure if i can bring him in

Kelly or Coniglio to Rocky could work.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: enzedder on May 27, 2018, 10:37:41 AM
Seriously considering him now.
ZGL and Fritsch to two of Rocky/Boak/Westhoff for me next week. Time to bring in the Port boys. Gray is another option but he's not as good value as the others.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Colty on May 27, 2018, 12:03:24 PM
Quote from: enzedder on May 27, 2018, 10:37:41 AM
Seriously considering him now.
ZGL and Fritsch to two of Rocky/Boak/Westhoff for me next week. Time to bring in the Port boys. Gray is another option but he's not as good value as the others.
I’ve got doubts on Gray, ironically it seems he’s moved forward as Rocky has taken his mid rotation. 
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: MontyJnr on May 27, 2018, 12:38:49 PM
Quote from: Colty on May 27, 2018, 12:03:24 PM
Quote from: enzedder on May 27, 2018, 10:37:41 AM
Seriously considering him now.
ZGL and Fritsch to two of Rocky/Boak/Westhoff for me next week. Time to bring in the Port boys. Gray is another option but he's not as good value as the others.
I’ve got doubts on Gray, ironically it seems he’s moved forward as Rocky has taken his mid rotation.

Gray is definitely a wait and see. Certainly not the must-have he was appearing to be a few weeks ago.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: My Chumps on June 01, 2018, 11:10:26 AM
TKelly and Fritsch ---> Rockliff and Walters, somebody talk me out of this
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on June 01, 2018, 11:15:57 AM
Quote from: My Chumps on June 01, 2018, 11:10:26 AM
TKelly and Fritsch ---> Rockliff and Walters, somebody talk me out of this
Do eet
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: iZander on June 01, 2018, 11:19:09 AM
Quote from: My Chumps on June 01, 2018, 11:10:26 AM
TKelly and Fritsch ---> Rockliff and Walters, somebody talk me out of this
No argument here, doing the same trades

Although id love someone to talk me out of walters, hate not getting a port/gc player
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Thewizz71 on June 01, 2018, 11:59:00 AM
Quote from: iZander on June 01, 2018, 11:19:09 AM
Quote from: My Chumps on June 01, 2018, 11:10:26 AM
TKelly and Fritsch ---> Rockliff and Walters, somebody talk me out of this
No argument here, doing the same trades

Although id love someone to talk me out of walters, hate not getting a port/gc player

Boak instead?
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 01, 2018, 12:10:28 PM
Quote from: Thewizz71 on June 01, 2018, 11:59:00 AM
Quote from: iZander on June 01, 2018, 11:19:09 AM
Quote from: My Chumps on June 01, 2018, 11:10:26 AM
TKelly and Fritsch ---> Rockliff and Walters, somebody talk me out of this
No argument here, doing the same trades

Although id love someone to talk me out of walters, hate not getting a port/gc player

Boak instead?

I was going to bring in Walters this week, but now I am wondering if I should get Rocky instead

They both have the same BE more or less, but Walters bye is the killer

I was going to bring in Walters this week and then next week bring in 2 of Rocky/Gray/Hoff/Boak

Now I am wondering if I should bring in Rocky this week, then 2 of Gray/Hoff/Boak next week
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: iZander on June 01, 2018, 12:20:00 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 01, 2018, 12:10:28 PM
Quote from: Thewizz71 on June 01, 2018, 11:59:00 AM
Quote from: iZander on June 01, 2018, 11:19:09 AM
Quote from: My Chumps on June 01, 2018, 11:10:26 AM
TKelly and Fritsch ---> Rockliff and Walters, somebody talk me out of this
No argument here, doing the same trades

Although id love someone to talk me out of walters, hate not getting a port/gc player

Boak instead?

I was going to bring in Walters this week, but now I am wondering if I should get Rocky instead

They both have the same BE more or less, but Walters bye is the killer

I was going to bring in Walters this week and then next week bring in 2 of Rocky/Gray/Hoff/Boak

Now I am wondering if I should bring in Rocky this week, then 2 of Gray/Hoff/Boak next week
Im bringing in both, no right answer but id go the port/gc player seems better for the byes (if you can only get 1)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: shaker on June 01, 2018, 12:20:49 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 01, 2018, 12:10:28 PM
Quote from: Thewizz71 on June 01, 2018, 11:59:00 AM
Quote from: iZander on June 01, 2018, 11:19:09 AM
Quote from: My Chumps on June 01, 2018, 11:10:26 AM
TKelly and Fritsch ---> Rockliff and Walters, somebody talk me out of this
No argument here, doing the same trades

Although id love someone to talk me out of walters, hate not getting a port/gc player

Boak instead?

I was going to bring in Walters this week, but now I am wondering if I should get Rocky instead

They both have the same BE more or less, but Walters bye is the killer

I was going to bring in Walters this week and then next week bring in 2 of Rocky/Gray/Hoff/Boak

Now I am wondering if I should bring in Rocky this week, then 2 of Gray/Hoff/Boak next week
Well that's it RD if your bringing him in I'm steering clear  :P
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 01, 2018, 12:29:41 PM
Quote from: shaker on June 01, 2018, 12:20:49 PM
Well that's it RD if your bringing him in I'm steering clear  :P

Good call!

Rocky would be M8, but once the byes pass I then turn Holman into Danger/Cripps and move Rocky to M9

Sounds logical, but that doesn't count for much in this game lol
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: MontyJnr on June 01, 2018, 12:53:38 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 01, 2018, 12:29:41 PM
Quote from: shaker on June 01, 2018, 12:20:49 PM
Well that's it RD if your bringing him in I'm steering clear  :P

Good call!

Rocky would be M8, but once the byes pass I then turn Holman into Danger/Cripps and move Rocky to M9

Sounds logical, but that doesn't count for much in this game lol

I guarantee other problems will pop up in your side and you will find you play Rocky at M8 for most of the remainder of the season.

I would advise everyone to just trade in the best player they can for their M8 and leave M9 to underperforming existing premiums you have. Could be a Dusty type at this rate.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: jvalles69 on June 01, 2018, 12:57:35 PM
Quote from: MontyJnr on June 01, 2018, 12:53:38 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 01, 2018, 12:29:41 PM
Quote from: shaker on June 01, 2018, 12:20:49 PM
Well that's it RD if your bringing him in I'm steering clear  :P

Good call!

Rocky would be M8, but once the byes pass I then turn Holman into Danger/Cripps and move Rocky to M9

Sounds logical, but that doesn't count for much in this game lol

I guarantee other problems will pop up in your side and you will find you play Rocky at M8 for most of the remainder of the season.

I would advise everyone to just trade in the best player they can for their M8 and leave M9 to underperforming existing premiums you have. Could be a Dusty type at this rate.

I'd agree if I was in the upper rankings say maybe within the 2500, play it safe.  I'm around the 6000 rank and see this as an opportunity to try and get back some rank and I don't think it is overly risky.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 01, 2018, 01:34:20 PM
Quote from: MontyJnr on June 01, 2018, 12:53:38 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 01, 2018, 12:29:41 PM
Quote from: shaker on June 01, 2018, 12:20:49 PM
Well that's it RD if your bringing him in I'm steering clear  :P

Good call!

Rocky would be M8, but once the byes pass I then turn Holman into Danger/Cripps and move Rocky to M9

Sounds logical, but that doesn't count for much in this game lol

I guarantee other problems will pop up in your side and you will find you play Rocky at M8 for most of the remainder of the season.

I would advise everyone to just trade in the best player they can for their M8 and leave M9 to underperforming existing premiums you have. Could be a Dusty type at this rate.

Rocky provides cover over the byes though. Bringing in Danger for example is another R14 bye player which makes it harder

I also have Holman who will be probably be 350k+ so it won't be that hard to turn him into a prem mid after the byes
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: MontyJnr on June 01, 2018, 02:22:16 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 01, 2018, 12:57:35 PM
Quote from: MontyJnr on June 01, 2018, 12:53:38 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 01, 2018, 12:29:41 PM
Quote from: shaker on June 01, 2018, 12:20:49 PM
Well that's it RD if your bringing him in I'm steering clear  :P

Good call!

Rocky would be M8, but once the byes pass I then turn Holman into Danger/Cripps and move Rocky to M9

Sounds logical, but that doesn't count for much in this game lol

I guarantee other problems will pop up in your side and you will find you play Rocky at M8 for most of the remainder of the season.

I would advise everyone to just trade in the best player they can for their M8 and leave M9 to underperforming existing premiums you have. Could be a Dusty type at this rate.

I'd agree if I was in the upper rankings say maybe within the 2500, play it safe.  I'm around the 6000 rank and see this as an opportunity to try and get back some rank and I don't think it is overly risky.

If the decision is Rockliff v Dangerfield for example, how likely is it that you breakeven on points in that matchup let alone outscore him? You would be relying on an injury basically.

The current overall leader is carrying Merrett, Stefan Martin & forward pocket Robbie Gray. Also has Hogan & Ryan as leftfield selections. Currently doesn't own Dangerfield, Grundy, Simpson, Lloyd, Webster, Hurley, Oliver & Walters.

Obviously just one example, but it proves you may not need to make such drastic POD selections to claw back some ground.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: jvalles69 on June 01, 2018, 02:25:32 PM
Quote from: MontyJnr on June 01, 2018, 02:22:16 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 01, 2018, 12:57:35 PM
Quote from: MontyJnr on June 01, 2018, 12:53:38 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 01, 2018, 12:29:41 PM
Quote from: shaker on June 01, 2018, 12:20:49 PM
Well that's it RD if your bringing him in I'm steering clear  :P

Good call!

Rocky would be M8, but once the byes pass I then turn Holman into Danger/Cripps and move Rocky to M9

Sounds logical, but that doesn't count for much in this game lol

I guarantee other problems will pop up in your side and you will find you play Rocky at M8 for most of the remainder of the season.

I would advise everyone to just trade in the best player they can for their M8 and leave M9 to underperforming existing premiums you have. Could be a Dusty type at this rate.

I'd agree if I was in the upper rankings say maybe within the 2500, play it safe.  I'm around the 6000 rank and see this as an opportunity to try and get back some rank and I don't think it is overly risky.

If the decision is Rockliff v Dangerfield for example, how likely is it that you breakeven on points in that matchup let alone outscore him? You would be relying on an injury basically.

The current overall leader is carrying Merrett, Stefan Martin & forward pocket Robbie Gray. Also has Hogan & Ryan as leftfield selections. Currently doesn't own Dangerfield, Grundy, Simpson, Lloyd, Webster, Hurley, Oliver & Walters.

Obviously just one example, but it proves you may not need to make such drastic POD selections to claw back some ground.

This is true, and perhaps it's cos I'm a gambling man...  :P
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 01, 2018, 02:45:26 PM
I'm not really looking to claw back ground

I just want to win league matches and improve my overall rank but I'm not going to win overall so any other position other than 1st is meaningless in reality

Rocky as a temp M8 for 3-4 weeks, then pushes to M9 - there's every chance a prem mid will get injured or miss a game or two in the back half of the season, so having Rocky as cover there is going to be much better than any rookie, plus the bye coverage he provides too.

EDIT: The appeal of getting Rocky now and Danger later is that the money saved means I can double upgrade in the forward line next week, where as if I get Danger now I can't do that next week, and this also lets Holman generate more cash and field as cover during the byes



Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: tkringle on June 01, 2018, 03:39:34 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 01, 2018, 02:45:26 PM
I'm not really looking to claw back ground

I just want to win league matches and improve my overall rank but I'm not going to win overall so any other position other than 1st is meaningless in reality

Rocky as a temp M8 for 3-4 weeks, then pushes to M9 - there's every chance a prem mid will get injured or miss a game or two in the back half of the season, so having Rocky as cover there is going to be much better than any rookie, plus the bye coverage he provides too.

EDIT: The appeal of getting Rocky now and Danger later is that the money saved means I can double upgrade in the forward line next week, where as if I get Danger now I can't do that next week, and this also lets Holman generate more cash and field as cover during the byes

Yeah I have been trying to decide between Rocky and Walters all week.. the sorry state of my byes position means Rocky is very tempting
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: My Chumps on June 01, 2018, 05:08:05 PM
Did somewhat of a deep dive to talk myself into/out of this.

Rocky had an interrupted pre-season. He said in a press conference after the GC game that he didn't feel right for the opening 4 games of the season. Staff told him to sit out a week, then returned with two big games in the SANFL. Proceeds to score pretty well playing mostly midfield upon return to the ones, then gets another week off to do some more fitness work last week. Primed and ready for a big second half of the season (flower me I sound like a Port supporter on BigFooty)

You'd be silly not to really
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: MontyJnr on June 01, 2018, 05:28:51 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on June 01, 2018, 05:08:05 PM
Did somewhat of a deep dive to talk myself into/out of this.

Rocky had an interrupted pre-season. He said in a press conference after the GC game that he didn't feel right for the opening 4 games of the season. Staff told him to sit out a week, then returned with two big games in the SANFL. Proceeds to score pretty well playing mostly midfield upon return to the ones, then gets another week off to do some more fitness work last week. Primed and ready for a big second half of the season (flower me I sound like a Port supporter on BigFooty)

You'd be silly not to really

Still only a 98 & 102 on return though, so there are still question marks on whether he can actually achieve the 120+ scores at Port that are needed from a starting premium midfielder.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 01, 2018, 06:05:07 PM
Quote from: MontyJnr on June 01, 2018, 05:28:51 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on June 01, 2018, 05:08:05 PM
Did somewhat of a deep dive to talk myself into/out of this.

Rocky had an interrupted pre-season. He said in a press conference after the GC game that he didn't feel right for the opening 4 games of the season. Staff told him to sit out a week, then returned with two big games in the SANFL. Proceeds to score pretty well playing mostly midfield upon return to the ones, then gets another week off to do some more fitness work last week. Primed and ready for a big second half of the season (flower me I sound like a Port supporter on BigFooty)

You'd be silly not to really

Still only a 98 & 102 on return though, so there are still question marks on whether he can actually achieve the 120+ scores at Port that are needed from a starting premium midfielder.

Who said anything about being a starter? Most people that pick him are doing so for cover over the byes and then M9

If it was for a keeper then I wouldn't be picking him, but 375k for a M9 who can potentially go 100+ could be very good insurance for the second half of the season

I said I wouldn't pick him again in the past, but that's as a starter - as M9 and bye cover I think there is much less risk so it's worth it
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: MontyJnr on June 01, 2018, 06:35:10 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 01, 2018, 06:05:07 PM

Who said anything about being a starter? Most people that pick him are doing so for cover over the byes and then M9

If it was for a keeper then I wouldn't be picking him, but 375k for a M9 who can potentially go 100+ could be very good insurance for the second half of the season

I said I wouldn't pick him again in the past, but that's as a starter - as M9 and bye cover I think there is much less risk so it's worth it

Yeah I am quite aware everyone has this big grand plan to push him to M9. Whether that ends up happening or not is another story.

There is a risk going early on a luxury trade like this. Rocky's spot at M8 will likely become your last priority for an upgrade, with moving Doedee, Fritsch, Billings, Tim Smith, Mirra, Richards, Guelfi types out of your best 22 taking precedence instead. That means that Rocky will likely be holding down M8 for you until the end of the byes minimum.

What happens if you get a few injuries in the meantime though? Suddenly with a finished team and Rocky at M8 you are running low on trades. Then you have to weigh up the tough decision on whether with 4-5 trades left it is worth making two 1 up/1 down "luxury" trades to bring in Dangerfield as your 9th midfielder or you hold the 4-5 trades to cover more injuries.

It could easily backfire and then you're stuck with Rocky at M8 when you could've just got Danger out of the way much earlier.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 01, 2018, 06:48:59 PM
Quote from: MontyJnr on June 01, 2018, 06:35:10 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 01, 2018, 06:05:07 PM

Who said anything about being a starter? Most people that pick him are doing so for cover over the byes and then M9

If it was for a keeper then I wouldn't be picking him, but 375k for a M9 who can potentially go 100+ could be very good insurance for the second half of the season

I said I wouldn't pick him again in the past, but that's as a starter - as M9 and bye cover I think there is much less risk so it's worth it

Yeah I am quite aware everyone has this big grand plan to push him to M9. Whether that ends up happening or not is another story.

There is a risk going early on a luxury trade like this. Rocky's spot at M8 will likely become your last priority for an upgrade, with moving Doedee, Fritsch, Billings, Tim Smith, Mirra, Richards, Guelfi types out of your best 22 taking precedence instead. That means that Rocky will likely be holding down M8 for you until the end of the byes minimum.

What happens if you get a few injuries in the meantime though? Suddenly with a finished team and Rocky at M8 you are running low on trades. Then you have to weigh up the tough decision on whether with 4-5 trades left it is worth making two 1 up/1 down "luxury" trades to bring in Dangerfield as your 9th midfielder or you hold the 4-5 trades to cover more injuries.

It could easily backfire and then you're stuck with Rocky at M8 when you could've just got Danger out of the way much earlier.

Goes both ways though doesn't it?

You get Danger now and complete your mids, but then you're fielding rookies elsewhere longer, or premiums from another line could get injured meaning you need to deal with that

The position to a certain extent is irrelevant. It's about getting 22 prems on the park, and unfortunately for someone like myself who has been smashed with injuries and low on trades, I might just have to settle with Rocky as M8 or most likely a rookie at F6 possibly F5 too

Bottom line for me, getting Rocky (or Walters) this week means I can double upgrade next week which I desperately need. Walters will likely be good enough for keeper where as Rocky probably won't, but Walters bye could be the difference between copping a donut or not in R14

There's no right or wrong answer with this, it's situational to each team and where they stand, but having Holman at M9 I am confident I can turn him into Danger or another prem eventually, and I will do that before I finish off my forward line too because some of the forward rookies are doing more than fine to stay on field and I know that a prem mid is eventually going to miss a game or two and that's when having Rocky come on as cover while others bring on a rookie will be advantageous for me, and coupled with his bye coverage and super cheap price I think the move is a good one which carries low risk
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: MontyJnr on June 01, 2018, 07:08:13 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 01, 2018, 06:48:59 PM
Quote from: MontyJnr on June 01, 2018, 06:35:10 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 01, 2018, 06:05:07 PM

Who said anything about being a starter? Most people that pick him are doing so for cover over the byes and then M9

If it was for a keeper then I wouldn't be picking him, but 375k for a M9 who can potentially go 100+ could be very good insurance for the second half of the season

I said I wouldn't pick him again in the past, but that's as a starter - as M9 and bye cover I think there is much less risk so it's worth it

Yeah I am quite aware everyone has this big grand plan to push him to M9. Whether that ends up happening or not is another story.

There is a risk going early on a luxury trade like this. Rocky's spot at M8 will likely become your last priority for an upgrade, with moving Doedee, Fritsch, Billings, Tim Smith, Mirra, Richards, Guelfi types out of your best 22 taking precedence instead. That means that Rocky will likely be holding down M8 for you until the end of the byes minimum.

What happens if you get a few injuries in the meantime though? Suddenly with a finished team and Rocky at M8 you are running low on trades. Then you have to weigh up the tough decision on whether with 4-5 trades left it is worth making two 1 up/1 down "luxury" trades to bring in Dangerfield as your 9th midfielder or you hold the 4-5 trades to cover more injuries.

It could easily backfire and then you're stuck with Rocky at M8 when you could've just got Danger out of the way much earlier.

Goes both ways though doesn't it?

You get Danger now and complete your mids, but then you're fielding rookies elsewhere longer, or premiums from another line could get injured meaning you need to deal with that

The position to a certain extent is irrelevant. It's about getting 22 prems on the park, and unfortunately for someone like myself who has been smashed with injuries and low on trades, I might just have to settle with Rocky as M8 or most likely a rookie at F6 possibly F5 too

Bottom line for me, getting Rocky (or Walters) this week means I can double upgrade next week which I desperately need. Walters will likely be good enough for keeper where as Rocky probably won't, but Walters bye could be the difference between copping a donut or not in R14

There's no right or wrong answer with this, it's situational to each team and where they stand, but having Holman at M9 I am confident I can turn him into Danger or another prem eventually, and I will do that before I finish off my forward line too because some of the forward rookies are doing more than fine to stay on field and I know that a prem mid is eventually going to miss a game or two and that's when having Rocky come on as cover while others bring on a rookie will be advantageous for me, and coupled with his bye coverage and super cheap price I think the move is a good one which carries low risk

Understand it is situational and it probably makes sense for someone like yourself to bring in Rocky given you have been hammered with injuries and may not have the chance to finish with 22 premiums on the park anyway.

I would love to have 22 premiums on field and Rocky at M9 personally, but then I look back at previous seasons and think of the number of times I actually finish the year with a premium at D7/M9/F7. It has happened once or twice, but I have definitely completed plenty more seasons without the extra premium.

I am reluctant to assume I will have this luxury at Round 11.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: My Chumps on June 01, 2018, 07:13:06 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 01, 2018, 06:48:59 PM
Quote from: MontyJnr on June 01, 2018, 06:35:10 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 01, 2018, 06:05:07 PM

Who said anything about being a starter? Most people that pick him are doing so for cover over the byes and then M9

If it was for a keeper then I wouldn't be picking him, but 375k for a M9 who can potentially go 100+ could be very good insurance for the second half of the season

I said I wouldn't pick him again in the past, but that's as a starter - as M9 and bye cover I think there is much less risk so it's worth it

Yeah I am quite aware everyone has this big grand plan to push him to M9. Whether that ends up happening or not is another story.

There is a risk going early on a luxury trade like this. Rocky's spot at M8 will likely become your last priority for an upgrade, with moving Doedee, Fritsch, Billings, Tim Smith, Mirra, Richards, Guelfi types out of your best 22 taking precedence instead. That means that Rocky will likely be holding down M8 for you until the end of the byes minimum.

What happens if you get a few injuries in the meantime though? Suddenly with a finished team and Rocky at M8 you are running low on trades. Then you have to weigh up the tough decision on whether with 4-5 trades left it is worth making two 1 up/1 down "luxury" trades to bring in Dangerfield as your 9th midfielder or you hold the 4-5 trades to cover more injuries.

It could easily backfire and then you're stuck with Rocky at M8 when you could've just got Danger out of the way much earlier.

Goes both ways though doesn't it?
Yeah Monty, the point is you're saving 250k by backing Rockliff, which is essentially an upgrade/downgrade. If things go pear shaped it will essentially take one more trade to fix the issue - you're going to trade Tim Kelly in either scenario, if it's for Danger now or Rockliff+250k then Danger later.

I'm in a somewhat similar boat to RD anyway with the fact that this season has been less-than-pleasant, so I'm keen to spice things up and take a punt on the GOAT
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: MontyJnr on June 01, 2018, 07:23:13 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on June 01, 2018, 07:13:06 PM
Yeah Monty, the point is you're saving 250k by backing Rockliff, which is essentially an upgrade/downgrade. If things go pear shaped it will essentially take one more trade to fix the issue - you're going to trade Tim Kelly in either scenario, if it's for Danger now or Rockliff+250k then Danger later.

I'm in a somewhat similar boat to RD anyway with the fact that this season has been less-than-pleasant, so I'm keen to spice things up and take a punt on the GOAT

You make a good point, but you are assuming 250k will be enough to reach a Top 8 midfielder.

We were obviously very lucky with Tim Kelly that he reached 400-430k.

Will Phillips, Spargo, Ahern & Giro get up to 350-380k so you can afford Dangerfield at 600-630k though? I am not so certain right now.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: tkringle on June 01, 2018, 07:37:39 PM
Quote from: MontyJnr on June 01, 2018, 07:23:13 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on June 01, 2018, 07:13:06 PM
Yeah Monty, the point is you're saving 250k by backing Rockliff, which is essentially an upgrade/downgrade. If things go pear shaped it will essentially take one more trade to fix the issue - you're going to trade Tim Kelly in either scenario, if it's for Danger now or Rockliff+250k then Danger later.

I'm in a somewhat similar boat to RD anyway with the fact that this season has been less-than-pleasant, so I'm keen to spice things up and take a punt on the GOAT

You make a good point, but you are assuming 250k will be enough to reach a Top 8 midfielder.

We were obviously very lucky with Tim Kelly that he reached 400-430k.

Will Phillips, Spargo, Ahern & Giro get up to 350-380k so you can afford Dangerfield at 600-630k though? I am not so certain right now.

Possibly not, but Fritsch and Smith are a good chance to for those of us with DPP sitting in the midfield waiting. As RD said, it’s situational.

Great discussion on the pro’s and con’s though.. has me still undecided either way!
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: MontyJnr on June 01, 2018, 07:41:46 PM
Quote from: tkringle on June 01, 2018, 07:37:39 PM
Quote from: MontyJnr on June 01, 2018, 07:23:13 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on June 01, 2018, 07:13:06 PM
Yeah Monty, the point is you're saving 250k by backing Rockliff, which is essentially an upgrade/downgrade. If things go pear shaped it will essentially take one more trade to fix the issue - you're going to trade Tim Kelly in either scenario, if it's for Danger now or Rockliff+250k then Danger later.

I'm in a somewhat similar boat to RD anyway with the fact that this season has been less-than-pleasant, so I'm keen to spice things up and take a punt on the GOAT

You make a good point, but you are assuming 250k will be enough to reach a Top 8 midfielder.

We were obviously very lucky with Tim Kelly that he reached 400-430k.

Will Phillips, Spargo, Ahern & Giro get up to 350-380k so you can afford Dangerfield at 600-630k though? I am not so certain right now.

Possibly not, but Fritsch and Smith are a good chance to for those of us with DPP sitting in the midfield waiting. As RD said, it’s situational.

Great discussion on the pro’s and con’s though.. has me still undecided either way!

True. I assumed Fritsch & Doedee were holding down on-field spots for most and would simply be upgraded to premium forwards/defenders from their positions. Tim Smith to Danger could be an option down the track though certainly if he keeps up his scoring.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 02, 2018, 07:44:11 AM
Even though I've been pro Rocky in this discussion, I am still considering my options and there's a chance I might not get him this week

He will be very handy over the byes and become a great M9, but like you say Monty there's every chance I won't even be able to get 22 prems let alone 22 + good bench cover, so for that reason I am still trying to decide whether I grab Rocky, or do I just pay up and lock in my midfield by bringing in an 8th proven gun

Danger seems the obvious choice, but I am seriously considering passing on him all together for season 2018 and grabbing Crouch who is 85k cheaper, as I think once the Crows get their groove back and he gets more continuity he can go 110+ and the money saved there would still allow me to double upgrade next week

Tough bloody decision, but I need to bring in one of Danger, Crouch or Rocky and I've only got this morning to figure it out
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: SilverLion on June 02, 2018, 11:49:01 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 02, 2018, 07:44:11 AM
Even though I've been pro Rocky in this discussion, I am still considering my options and there's a chance I might not get him this week

He will be very handy over the byes and become a great M9, but like you say Monty there's every chance I won't even be able to get 22 prems let alone 22 + good bench cover, so for that reason I am still trying to decide whether I grab Rocky, or do I just pay up and lock in my midfield by bringing in an 8th proven gun

Danger seems the obvious choice, but I am seriously considering passing on him all together for season 2018 and grabbing Crouch who is 85k cheaper, as I think once the Crows get their groove back and he gets more continuity he can go 110+ and the money saved there would still allow me to double upgrade next week

Tough bloody decision, but I need to bring in one of Danger, Crouch or Rocky and I've only got this morning to figure it out
Danger easily mate.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: batt on June 02, 2018, 12:10:54 PM
I've been trying to figure out whether my team can afford Rocky at M9.

The options are:
Rocky M8 (cheap as chips)
Normal premo M8
Normal premo M8 + Rocky M9 (most expensive option)

If he pumps out a 110 this week he's coming in no questions asked.  Anything around the hundred mark and I'm probably going for Cripps M8 given the cruddy score last night.

But if you told me Cripps would fall off a cliff in the second half of the season and averaged 105 I wouldn't be surprised.  If you told me Rocky averaged more than Cripps from here on out I wouldn't be surprised.

The first half of the season and the second half of the season are two very different things.  Rocky has the support to see the season out.  A guy like Crippa can't Atlas every week in a team getting smashed.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 02, 2018, 12:14:58 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on June 02, 2018, 11:49:01 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 02, 2018, 07:44:11 AM
Even though I've been pro Rocky in this discussion, I am still considering my options and there's a chance I might not get him this week

He will be very handy over the byes and become a great M9, but like you say Monty there's every chance I won't even be able to get 22 prems let alone 22 + good bench cover, so for that reason I am still trying to decide whether I grab Rocky, or do I just pay up and lock in my midfield by bringing in an 8th proven gun

Danger seems the obvious choice, but I am seriously considering passing on him all together for season 2018 and grabbing Crouch who is 85k cheaper, as I think once the Crows get their groove back and he gets more continuity he can go 110+ and the money saved there would still allow me to double upgrade next week

Tough bloody decision, but I need to bring in one of Danger, Crouch or Rocky and I've only got this morning to figure it out
Danger easily mate.

I don't think Danger is the easy choice

612k for a guy who has put up a few 130's and that's it

He isn't the Danger of previous years and I think there's more value elsewhere which is why I am probably going to pass on him for now and grab Crouch or Rocky

Still a long way to go, and if an existing prem mid gets injured then Danger is always an option, but as of right now I just think there is much more value around
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 02, 2018, 04:55:54 PM
Burn man gonna burn
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: AaronKirk on June 02, 2018, 05:02:38 PM
Had a poor first half and resorted to being used as a tagger on Mitchell.

7 touches in 3 quarters of football. He is too inconsistent. Not touching him.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 02, 2018, 05:21:07 PM
Glad I came to my senses and avoided burn man

Still think he could be handy M9 cover but I need 22 on park first and I didn't want to get stuck with him as my M8, plus I remember how much he has burnt me in the past

Been a double win, because now I can confidently bring in Gray next week too
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Gigantor on June 02, 2018, 05:54:01 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 02, 2018, 05:21:07 PM
Glad I came to my senses and avoided burn man

Still think he could be handy M9 cover but I need 22 on park first and I didn't want to get stuck with him as my M8, plus I remember how much he has burnt me in the past

Been a double win, because now I can confidently bring in Gray next week too
Not sure about Gray, kicked 4 and still didn't ton up
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Adamant on June 02, 2018, 06:03:34 PM
I hate this cow
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: iZander on June 02, 2018, 06:05:08 PM
Quote from: Adamant on June 02, 2018, 06:03:34 PM
I hate this cow
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: batt on June 02, 2018, 06:19:19 PM
Thread over.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 02, 2018, 06:23:31 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on June 02, 2018, 05:54:01 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 02, 2018, 05:21:07 PM
Glad I came to my senses and avoided burn man

Still think he could be handy M9 cover but I need 22 on park first and I didn't want to get stuck with him as my M8, plus I remember how much he has burnt me in the past

Been a double win, because now I can confidently bring in Gray next week too
Not sure about Gray, kicked 4 and still didn't ton up

Was still the second highest scoring Port player though. Should be a nice price now, and is definitely good enough to remain Top 6

Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: SilverLion on June 02, 2018, 07:45:58 PM
As I thought a few weeks back, he's no better or worse an M9 than Kelly would've been.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: sammy123 on June 02, 2018, 08:16:41 PM
This guy is no longer fantasy relevant
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: MontyJnr on June 02, 2018, 08:38:45 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 02, 2018, 05:21:07 PM
Been a double win, because now I can confidently bring in Gray next week too

Did Gray play midfield? I missed the game.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: fanTCfool on June 02, 2018, 08:42:31 PM
Quote from: MontyJnr on June 02, 2018, 08:38:45 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 02, 2018, 05:21:07 PM
Been a double win, because now I can confidently bring in Gray next week too

Did Gray play midfield? I missed the game.

Full-forward again, looks like he'll need to kick big bags in order to ton.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: frenzy on June 03, 2018, 12:06:33 AM
if Port get done again next week to the Tigers, Ken will have to start playing Gray in the MIDS, surely.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: MontyJnr on June 03, 2018, 12:12:31 AM
Quote from: fanTCfool on June 02, 2018, 08:42:31 PM
Quote from: MontyJnr on June 02, 2018, 08:38:45 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 02, 2018, 05:21:07 PM
Been a double win, because now I can confidently bring in Gray next week too

Did Gray play midfield? I missed the game.

Full-forward again, looks like he'll need to kick big bags in order to ton.

Yeah that is a worry. Still a wait and see for me.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Marstar on June 03, 2018, 01:40:04 AM
Silver Lining ... if you have more than 18 players and he Spuds it ... his score doesn't count.  ;D 8) ;D 8)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: tkringle on June 03, 2018, 12:11:00 PM
Trading Kelly to Rocky hurts.. when will I learn!
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Sabretooth Tigers on June 03, 2018, 01:32:38 PM
Quote from: tkringle on June 03, 2018, 12:11:00 PM
Trading Kelly to Rocky hurts.. when will I learn!

I traded Kelly to Rocky  and Guelfi to Boak.  Kelly scores 130, Guelfi scores 76   =  206
                                                             Rocky and Boak score a total of            102
So in all it costs me approx $220k, 2 trades and I lose lose 104 points
Definitely one of my finer weeks in SC. But in defence of Rocky, wasn't he given a tagging role on Mitchell early in the game ??

:'(
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: kilbluff1985 on June 03, 2018, 01:34:56 PM
i think its hilarious u kids talking shower about Rocky. u wouldnt say this shower to him at AO, hes jacked. not only that but he wears the freshest clothes, eats at the chillest restaurants and hangs out with the hottest women. yall are pathetic lol.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on June 03, 2018, 01:39:27 PM
Quote from: Sabretooth Tigers on June 03, 2018, 01:32:38 PM
Quote from: tkringle on June 03, 2018, 12:11:00 PM
Trading Kelly to Rocky hurts.. when will I learn!

I traded Kelly to Rocky  and Guelfi to Boak.  Kelly scores 130, Guelfi scores 76   =  206
                                                             Rocky and Boak score a total of            102
So in all it costs me approx $220k, 2 trades and I lose lose 104 points
Definitely one of my finer weeks in SC. But in defence of Rocky, wasn't he given a tagging role on Mitchell early in the game ??

:'(

90% of people traded Kelly so don't beat yourself up over that, Rocky obviously the wrong pick but attempt to get him to M9. Certainly a better bet than Spargo etc. I think on the bright side he'll provide the odd loophole worthy score.   
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: shaker on June 03, 2018, 01:39:48 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 03, 2018, 01:34:56 PM
i think its hilarious u kids talking shower about Rocky. u wouldnt say this shower to him at AO, hes jacked. not only that but he wears the freshest clothes, eats at the chillest restaurants and hangs out with the hottest women. yall are pathetic lol.
All true but he sucks at football  :P
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: jbjimmyjb on June 03, 2018, 01:50:23 PM
Quote from: Sabretooth Tigers on June 03, 2018, 01:32:38 PM
Quote from: tkringle on June 03, 2018, 12:11:00 PM
Trading Kelly to Rocky hurts.. when will I learn!

I traded Kelly to Rocky  and Guelfi to Boak.  Kelly scores 130, Guelfi scores 76   =  206
                                                             Rocky and Boak score a total of            102
So in all it costs me approx $220k, 2 trades and I lose lose 104 points
Definitely one of my finer weeks in SC. But in defence of Rocky, wasn't he given a tagging role on Mitchell early in the game ??

:'(
Rocky was sent to Mitchell late in the 3rd quarter, as Rockliff had had 1 disposal since quarter time.
Why they didn't put him forward and put Port's best player, Robbie, in the midfield... I have no clue.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: tkringle on June 03, 2018, 02:04:06 PM
Quote from: jbjimmyjb on June 03, 2018, 01:50:23 PM
Quote from: Sabretooth Tigers on June 03, 2018, 01:32:38 PM
Quote from: tkringle on June 03, 2018, 12:11:00 PM
Trading Kelly to Rocky hurts.. when will I learn!

I traded Kelly to Rocky  and Guelfi to Boak.  Kelly scores 130, Guelfi scores 76   =  206
                                                             Rocky and Boak score a total of            102
So in all it costs me approx $220k, 2 trades and I lose lose 104 points
Definitely one of my finer weeks in SC. But in defence of Rocky, wasn't he given a tagging role on Mitchell early in the game ??

:'(
Rocky was sent to Mitchell late in the 3rd quarter, as Rockliff had had 1 disposal since quarter time.
Why they didn't put him forward and put Port's best player, Robbie, in the midfield... I have no clue.

Thought he went to him at the start of the 3rd Quarter. At least that is what the commentators said. They were praising his half on Mitchell
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: jbjimmyjb on June 03, 2018, 02:19:25 PM
Quote from: tkringle on June 03, 2018, 02:04:06 PM
Quote from: jbjimmyjb on June 03, 2018, 01:50:23 PM
Quote from: Sabretooth Tigers on June 03, 2018, 01:32:38 PM
Quote from: tkringle on June 03, 2018, 12:11:00 PM
Trading Kelly to Rocky hurts.. when will I learn!

I traded Kelly to Rocky  and Guelfi to Boak.  Kelly scores 130, Guelfi scores 76   =  206
                                                             Rocky and Boak score a total of            102
So in all it costs me approx $220k, 2 trades and I lose lose 104 points
Definitely one of my finer weeks in SC. But in defence of Rocky, wasn't he given a tagging role on Mitchell early in the game ??

:'(
Rocky was sent to Mitchell late in the 3rd quarter, as Rockliff had had 1 disposal since quarter time.
Why they didn't put him forward and put Port's best player, Robbie, in the midfield... I have no clue.

Thought he went to him at the start of the 3rd Quarter. At least that is what the commentators said. They were praising his half on Mitchell
Oh, perhaps. I just noticed that Mitchell was very good at the start of the 3rd, and then gradually his influence was stopped by Rocky. Mitchell got 35 points in the 3rd, and like 2 in the 4th.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Rusty00 on June 03, 2018, 05:07:09 PM
Quote from: jbjimmyjb on June 03, 2018, 02:19:25 PM
Quote from: tkringle on June 03, 2018, 02:04:06 PM
Quote from: jbjimmyjb on June 03, 2018, 01:50:23 PM
Quote from: Sabretooth Tigers on June 03, 2018, 01:32:38 PM
Quote from: tkringle on June 03, 2018, 12:11:00 PM
Trading Kelly to Rocky hurts.. when will I learn!

I traded Kelly to Rocky  and Guelfi to Boak.  Kelly scores 130, Guelfi scores 76   =  206
                                                             Rocky and Boak score a total of            102
So in all it costs me approx $220k, 2 trades and I lose lose 104 points
Definitely one of my finer weeks in SC. But in defence of Rocky, wasn't he given a tagging role on Mitchell early in the game ??

:'(
Rocky was sent to Mitchell late in the 3rd quarter, as Rockliff had had 1 disposal since quarter time.
Why they didn't put him forward and put Port's best player, Robbie, in the midfield... I have no clue.

Thought he went to him at the start of the 3rd Quarter. At least that is what the commentators said. They were praising his half on Mitchell
Oh, perhaps. I just noticed that Mitchell was very good at the start of the 3rd, and then gradually his influence was stopped by Rocky. Mitchell got 35 points in the 3rd, and like 2 in the 4th.
Yep, Rocky went to Mitchell in the 2nd half and held him to 7 possessions after he had 21 in the first half.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 03, 2018, 07:56:03 PM
Feeling pretty good that I went the opposite to what most people did this week and grabbed Crouch instead
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: jvalles69 on June 04, 2018, 11:18:48 PM
I can only blame myself... :'(
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Holz on June 05, 2018, 10:12:58 AM
I still think he is a decent pick at his price, great for the byes and then you stick him at m9 and loophole him.

The reason why im probably not going to pick him up is i think there is a better cheaper loophole and that is Jack Reiwoldt.

Will be 330k, because of his injury and then poor score after the injury. Probably good for a solid 85 average which is great for a F7/M9 and then also plays plenty of early games and is a great loophole.

soo is Rocky he will have some good games and some bad games.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on June 05, 2018, 11:28:42 AM
Jack's an interesting one, hadn't even crossed my mind.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: SilverLion on June 05, 2018, 11:32:30 AM
Quote from: Holz on June 05, 2018, 10:12:58 AM
I still think he is a decent pick at his price, great for the byes and then you stick him at m9 and loophole him.

The reason why im probably not going to pick him up is i think there is a better cheaper loophole and that is Jack Reiwoldt.

Will be 330k, because of his injury and then poor score after the injury. Probably good for a solid 85 average which is great for a F7/M9 and then also plays plenty of early games and is a great loophole.

soo is Rocky he will have some good games and some bad games.
Riewoldt's FWD only though.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: jvalles69 on June 05, 2018, 11:35:07 AM
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Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Holz on June 05, 2018, 11:42:48 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on June 05, 2018, 11:32:30 AM
Quote from: Holz on June 05, 2018, 10:12:58 AM
I still think he is a decent pick at his price, great for the byes and then you stick him at m9 and loophole him.

The reason why im probably not going to pick him up is i think there is a better cheaper loophole and that is Jack Reiwoldt.

Will be 330k, because of his injury and then poor score after the injury. Probably good for a solid 85 average which is great for a F7/M9 and then also plays plenty of early games and is a great loophole.

soo is Rocky he will have some good games and some bad games.
Riewoldt's FWD only though.

yeah but he can cover both the fwd line and midfield regarldess.

So say you have him F7 and then you have Toby Mclean at F1.

If you swtich Mclean into the midfield then you play Jroo in his spot. That way Jroo really has covered you in the midfield even though its actually mclean who plays in the midfield.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on June 05, 2018, 01:42:55 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 05, 2018, 11:42:48 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on June 05, 2018, 11:32:30 AM
Quote from: Holz on June 05, 2018, 10:12:58 AM
I still think he is a decent pick at his price, great for the byes and then you stick him at m9 and loophole him.

The reason why im probably not going to pick him up is i think there is a better cheaper loophole and that is Jack Reiwoldt.

Will be 330k, because of his injury and then poor score after the injury. Probably good for a solid 85 average which is great for a F7/M9 and then also plays plenty of early games and is a great loophole.

soo is Rocky he will have some good games and some bad games.
Riewoldt's FWD only though.

yeah but he can cover both the fwd line and midfield regarldess.

So say you have him F7 and then you have Toby Mclean at F1.

If you swtich Mclean into the midfield then you play Jroo in his spot. That way Jroo really has covered you in the midfield even though its actually mclean who plays in the midfield.
Would rather play a rookie instead of trading in this pie fwd
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: MontyJnr on June 05, 2018, 01:52:03 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 05, 2018, 11:42:48 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on June 05, 2018, 11:32:30 AM
Quote from: Holz on June 05, 2018, 10:12:58 AM
I still think he is a decent pick at his price, great for the byes and then you stick him at m9 and loophole him.

The reason why im probably not going to pick him up is i think there is a better cheaper loophole and that is Jack Reiwoldt.

Will be 330k, because of his injury and then poor score after the injury. Probably good for a solid 85 average which is great for a F7/M9 and then also plays plenty of early games and is a great loophole.

soo is Rocky he will have some good games and some bad games.
Riewoldt's FWD only though.

yeah but he can cover both the fwd line and midfield regarldess.

So say you have him F7 and then you have Toby Mclean at F1.

If you swtich Mclean into the midfield then you play Jroo in his spot. That way Jroo really has covered you in the midfield even though its actually mclean who plays in the midfield.

I reckon you would have to be carrying a pretty dodgy M8/F6 for Riewoldt to be worth it. Rarely goes big and only has 2 scores over 101 with a high score of 115.

Would be handy cover for an injury, but you may as well just save the trade for when you actually get the injury.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: dmac07 on June 05, 2018, 02:37:28 PM
You mean to tell me people actually picked up Rocky!  ;D ;D ;D

Makes my job of climbing the rankins easier.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 05, 2018, 07:24:43 PM
Clutching at straws Holz
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Dudge on June 05, 2018, 09:46:47 PM
We will see. Biggest if ever, but it is Rocky. If things go his way, i would like to see certain posters still commenting on the subject. If things go wrong, believe you me, i'll be the first to say i got it wrong. Btw i got him in last week  :-\
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: sammy123 on June 05, 2018, 10:28:56 PM
Quote from: dmac07 on June 05, 2018, 02:37:28 PM
You mean to tell me people actually picked up Rocky!  ;D ;D ;D

Makes my job of climbing the rankins easier.

This was my thoughts exactly  :)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: elephants on June 06, 2018, 12:39:04 AM
Wont get pantsed by Mitchell every week, watch him go 100 next week and all the way through the byes!

3 straight games at AO
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Holz on June 06, 2018, 09:12:05 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 05, 2018, 07:24:43 PM
Clutching at straws Holz

330k for a guy who pretty much has gone 85ish for 7 years and was going 92 before injury.

At his price i cant think of anyone close to pick up. I look at anyone who drops dramatically in price due to injury.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 06, 2018, 10:51:38 AM
Quote from: Holz on June 06, 2018, 09:12:05 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 05, 2018, 07:24:43 PM
Clutching at straws Holz

330k for a guy who pretty much has gone 85ish for 7 years and was going 92 before injury.

At his price i cant think of anyone close to pick up. I look at anyone who drops dramatically in price due to injury.

JJK was a similar price and he would have been a better pick

For anyone that has Fritsch, saving the trade and keeping him would also be better

He's not a horrible pick, but at this stage of the game getting the best 22 you can has to take priority over non starting quality bench cover
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Holz on June 06, 2018, 10:57:11 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 06, 2018, 10:51:38 AM
Quote from: Holz on June 06, 2018, 09:12:05 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 05, 2018, 07:24:43 PM
Clutching at straws Holz

330k for a guy who pretty much has gone 85ish for 7 years and was going 92 before injury.

At his price i cant think of anyone close to pick up. I look at anyone who drops dramatically in price due to injury.

JJK was a similar price and he would have been a better pick

For anyone that has Fritsch, saving the trade and keeping him would also be better

He's not a horrible pick, but at this stage of the game getting the best 22 you can has to take priority over non starting quality bench cover

Yeah JJK is a good option too but at 400k isnt as attractive as 330k.

The reason why I brought Jroo up in this thread is we are talking about sub optimal cheap guys which is Rocky.

Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 06, 2018, 11:05:36 AM
Quote from: Holz on June 06, 2018, 10:57:11 AM
Yeah JJK is a good option too but at 400k isnt as attractive as 330k.

The reason why I brought Jroo up in this thread is we are talking about sub optimal cheap guys which is Rocky.

I said JJK was, because last week he was only 366k ;)

There's not really much on offer in the 400k range now so I would just focus on completing teams with best 22 - I'm sure we'll get a better fallen prem option eventually
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Marstar on June 08, 2018, 10:30:53 AM
This is the week to go big Sir Goat !!!!!!
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on June 08, 2018, 10:51:41 AM
Quote from: Marstar on June 08, 2018, 10:30:53 AM
This is the week to go big Sir Goat !!!!!!
Yep, get him in fellas
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: sammy123 on June 08, 2018, 11:17:58 PM
100 pre scale. Not sure how he did it efficiency was terrible
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: iZander on June 08, 2018, 11:26:36 PM
Quote from: sammy123 on June 08, 2018, 11:17:58 PM
100 pre scale. Not sure how he did it efficiency was terrible
Out of all the people above him in DT he has the highest efficiency?

But yeah i too am surprised by his SC

Feel sorry for all those suckers who didnt trade him in......;)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on June 08, 2018, 11:41:09 PM
Quote from: iZander on June 08, 2018, 11:26:36 PM
Quote from: sammy123 on June 08, 2018, 11:17:58 PM
100 pre scale. Not sure how he did it efficiency was terrible
Out of all the people above him in DT he has the highest efficiency?

But yeah i too am surprised by his SC

Feel sorry for all those suckers who didnt trade him in......;)
Was one of the best in the last quarter
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: sammy123 on June 09, 2018, 04:54:20 AM
Quote from: GoLions on June 08, 2018, 11:41:09 PM
Quote from: iZander on June 08, 2018, 11:26:36 PM
Quote from: sammy123 on June 08, 2018, 11:17:58 PM
100 pre scale. Not sure how he did it efficiency was terrible
Out of all the people above him in DT he has the highest efficiency?

But yeah i too am surprised by his SC

Feel sorry for all those suckers who didnt trade him in......;)
Was one of the best in the last quarter

Yes seemed to be all over it. But i lnow at least 3 times he kicked it to a richmond player
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Marstar on June 09, 2018, 10:28:02 AM
Quote from: sammy123 on June 09, 2018, 04:54:20 AM
Quote from: GoLions on June 08, 2018, 11:41:09 PM
Quote from: iZander on June 08, 2018, 11:26:36 PM
Quote from: sammy123 on June 08, 2018, 11:17:58 PM
100 pre scale. Not sure how he did it efficiency was terrible
Out of all the people above him in DT he has the highest efficiency?

But yeah i too am surprised by his SC

Feel sorry for all those suckers who didnt trade him in......;)
Was one of the best in the last quarter

Yes seemed to be all over it. But i lnow at least 3 times he kicked it to a richmond player

Heard on the radio somewhere in the 3rd quarter he was 100% by foot ... got home and watched the last quarter and all they did was praise his effort for the day.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Frankfaust on June 09, 2018, 10:43:25 AM
Quote from: Marstar on June 09, 2018, 10:28:02 AM
Quote from: sammy123 on June 09, 2018, 04:54:20 AM
Quote from: GoLions on June 08, 2018, 11:41:09 PM
Quote from: iZander on June 08, 2018, 11:26:36 PM
Quote from: sammy123 on June 08, 2018, 11:17:58 PM
100 pre scale. Not sure how he did it efficiency was terrible
Out of all the people above him in DT he has the highest efficiency?

But yeah i too am surprised by his SC

Feel sorry for all those suckers who didnt trade him in...... ;)
Was one of the best in the last quarter

Yes seemed to be all over it. But i lnow at least 3 times he kicked it to a richmond player

Heard on the radio somewhere in the 3rd quarter he was 100% by foot ... got home and watched the last quarter and all they did was praise his effort for the day.


Didn't look that way to me. I thought he had good effort, but I recall seeing what I thought were clangers. Better later in the game, perhaps.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Jay on June 09, 2018, 11:38:21 AM
Got him this week and thought he looked good. No tagging, and was on the ball all game. Only issue is the TOG but I think that increases as he builds his match fitness.

His field kicking was impressive too, thought he used the ball really well. Certainly think he can be a capable M8 for the next month and if all goes well becomes a weekly loophole at M9.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: iZander on June 09, 2018, 12:08:16 PM
Quote from: Jay on June 09, 2018, 11:38:21 AM
Got him this week and thought he looked good. No tagging, and was on the ball all game. Only issue is the TOG but I think that increases as he builds his match fitness.

His field kicking was impressive too, thought he used the ball really well. Certainly think he can be a capable M8 for the next month and if all goes well becomes a weekly loophole at M9.

I actually thought he looked very slow and out of it, you are right, he was around the ball the whole game but only managed 3 tackles, which is just so un-rocky-like. I got him in last week in all formats and although he managed a decent score this week im very much regretting it and i dont think he will be a capable M8. Man i hope you are right :/ No idea how he got 100 SC last but ill take it and run :D
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Toga on June 09, 2018, 02:26:46 PM
I thought he looked great last night. Was in the right spots and used the ball pretty well for most of the game. 3 tackles the only concern and he did look like he favoured his shoulder at one point but wouldn't be complaining with that score!
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Colty on June 11, 2018, 10:02:13 PM
Anyone tempted?
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bluesalltheway on June 11, 2018, 10:58:01 PM
Quote from: Colty on June 11, 2018, 10:02:13 PM
Anyone tempted?

Don't think there's enough upside atm to justify it. Not only does he have a terrible floor, but even when he plays well he's only scraping 100. Until we start seeing the huge scores he used to pump out there's not much point, especially considering his breakeven isn't that low.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Ricochet on June 11, 2018, 11:38:46 PM
Quote from: Colty on June 11, 2018, 10:02:13 PM
Anyone tempted?
Nope
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Ringo on June 12, 2018, 12:47:21 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 11, 2018, 11:38:46 PM
Quote from: Colty on June 11, 2018, 10:02:13 PM
Anyone tempted?
Nope
More interested in Wines than Rocky 90k more though.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Holz on June 12, 2018, 12:49:20 PM
JJk at 10k more and is a fwd - already had the bye

Jroo at 60k less and is a fwd - hasn't had the bye

Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Ringo on June 12, 2018, 12:53:54 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 12, 2018, 12:49:20 PM
JJk at 10k more and is a fwd - already had the bye

Jroo at 60k less and is a fwd - hasn't had the bye
McKernan to JJK will probably be one trade this week for me. Should score well with Darling out.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: iZander on June 12, 2018, 05:16:07 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 12, 2018, 12:49:20 PM
JJk at 10k more and is a fwd - already had the bye

Jroo at 60k less and is a fwd - hasn't had the bye

It baffles me you have made these comparisons but are still getting Jroo :P
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Ricochet on June 13, 2018, 09:44:06 PM
Quote from: iZander on June 12, 2018, 05:16:07 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 12, 2018, 12:49:20 PM
JJk at 10k more and is a fwd - already had the bye

Jroo at 60k less and is a fwd - hasn't had the bye

It baffles me you have made these comparisons but are still getting Jroo :P
Bit of Pie bias i think
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: tkringle on June 14, 2018, 10:43:59 PM
Looks to be tackling again. Big third quarter by Rocky
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: sammy123 on June 14, 2018, 11:04:22 PM
Quote from: tkringle on June 14, 2018, 10:43:59 PM
Looks to be tackling again. Big third quarter by Rocky

Could b a good 120 score
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on June 14, 2018, 11:53:13 PM
I grabbed him this week due to donuts galore, happy with his first week.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Trindacut on June 15, 2018, 12:10:46 AM
I grabbed him two weeks ago, 100 last week and solid ton this week has lowered my blood pressure after he got 40-something and Kelly (whom I traded out) for 130.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: North Melbournes Finest on June 15, 2018, 12:48:26 AM
It's out of him and Oliver for my final mid spot next week.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: sammy123 on June 15, 2018, 01:25:51 AM
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on June 15, 2018, 12:48:26 AM
It's out of him and Oliver for my final mid spot next week.

Oliver he has had some massive scores.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: crowls on June 15, 2018, 06:39:03 AM
Quote from: Bully on June 14, 2018, 11:53:13 PM
I grabbed him this week due to donuts galore, happy with his first week.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 15, 2018, 08:44:03 AM
I might have to grab him next week

Should still be cheap at around 400k, so Holman to Rocky will cost bugger all

Probably better to do that which gives me a good M9 all year so I can hold Macrae over the next few weeks that he is out as opposed to trading Macrae and leaving Holman as M9
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Marstar on June 15, 2018, 08:45:42 AM
If Rocky guides me to #1 I'll use the $50k to build him a statue!!!!!
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GCSkiwi on June 15, 2018, 11:28:40 AM
I'm considering grabbing him as M9, but actually thinking I might grab Hoff as a M/F cover swingman...
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: jbjimmyjb on June 15, 2018, 01:21:24 PM
I need some advice.
Currently I have 7 premo mids.

Option A) Play it safe and just trade Holman > Fyfe in round 15, no Rockliff or Macrae.
Option B) Play it very risky and trade Holman > Rockliff in round 14, Rockliff would be m8 for rest of the season.
Option C) Go all out, trade Holman > Rockliff in round 14, and then as soon as Macrae drops below 600k, trade Fritsch (my f7) > Macrae in Round 17 or so (via Ahern). That will leave Rockliff as m9 for the rest of the season.

What do you guys reckon? Is Rockliff worth it or just skip him for a proven super premo like Fyfe?
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: HappyDEZ on June 15, 2018, 02:50:04 PM
Quote from: jbjimmyjb on June 15, 2018, 01:21:24 PM
I need some advice.
Currently I have 7 premo mids.

Option A) Play it safe and just trade Holman > Fyfe in round 15, no Rockliff or Macrae.
Option B) Play it very risky and trade Holman > Rockliff in round 14, Rockliff would be m8 for rest of the season.
Option C) Go all out, trade Holman > Rockliff in round 14, and then as soon as Macrae drops below 600k, trade Fritsch (my f7) > Macrae in Round 17 or so (via Ahern). That will leave Rockliff as m9 for the rest of the season.

What do you guys reckon? Is Rockliff worth it or just skip him for a proven super premo like Fyfe?
Option A for mine. Fyfe is a must in SC.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Ringo on June 15, 2018, 03:36:34 PM
Quote from: HappyDEZ on June 15, 2018, 02:50:04 PM
Quote from: jbjimmyjb on June 15, 2018, 01:21:24 PM
I need some advice.
Currently I have 7 premo mids.

Option A) Play it safe and just trade Holman > Fyfe in round 15, no Rockliff or Macrae.
Option B) Play it very risky and trade Holman > Rockliff in round 14, Rockliff would be m8 for rest of the season.
Option C) Go all out, trade Holman > Rockliff in round 14, and then as soon as Macrae drops below 600k, trade Fritsch (my f7) > Macrae in Round 17 or so (via Ahern). That will leave Rockliff as m9 for the rest of the season.

What do you guys reckon? Is Rockliff worth it or just skip him for a proven super premo like Fyfe?
Option A for mine. Fyfe is a must in SC.
Think the Fyfe Rocky combo if you can do it will outscore the Macrae Rocky combo.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Blues Blues Blues on June 20, 2018, 09:53:25 PM
Seriously stumped with this bloke.

So cheap at $400k and has a BE of 15 and projected to go up by $33k with a score of 90.

Is he back??

A few scores of 100+ but also a few stinkers. Will he be given a tagging role?

Tossing up him or Oliver. Down to only 13 trades and the extra cash will come in handy!

Any intel or advice appreciated!
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Judd Magic on June 20, 2018, 11:04:50 PM
Quote from: Blues Blues Blues on June 20, 2018, 09:53:25 PM
Seriously stumped with this bloke.

So cheap at $400k and has a BE of 15 and projected to go up by $33k with a score of 90.

Is he back??

A few scores of 100+ but also a few stinkers. Will he be given a tagging role?

Tossing up him or Oliver. Down to only 13 trades and the extra cash will come in handy!

Any intel or advice appreciated!

Oliver any day out of those 2.

You pay for what you get....
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 20, 2018, 11:34:55 PM
Quote from: Blues Blues Blues on June 20, 2018, 09:53:25 PM
Seriously stumped with this bloke.

So cheap at $400k and has a BE of 15 and projected to go up by $33k with a score of 90.

Is he back??

A few scores of 100+ but also a few stinkers. Will he be given a tagging role?

Tossing up him or Oliver. Down to only 13 trades and the extra cash will come in handy!

Any intel or advice appreciated!

LOL GGF!  ;D
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Torpedo10 on June 20, 2018, 11:50:18 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 20, 2018, 11:34:55 PM
Quote from: Blues Blues Blues on June 20, 2018, 09:53:25 PM
Seriously stumped with this bloke.

So cheap at $400k and has a BE of 15 and projected to go up by $33k with a score of 90.

Is he back??

A few scores of 100+ but also a few stinkers. Will he be given a tagging role?

Tossing up him or Oliver. Down to only 13 trades and the extra cash will come in handy!

Any intel or advice appreciated!

LOL GGF!  ;D
I've got 8 and even I reacted like this.  ;D
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Blues Blues Blues on June 21, 2018, 07:13:53 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 20, 2018, 11:34:55 PM
Quote from: Blues Blues Blues on June 20, 2018, 09:53:25 PM
Seriously stumped with this bloke.

So cheap at $400k and has a BE of 15 and projected to go up by $33k with a score of 90.

Is he back??

A few scores of 100+ but also a few stinkers. Will he be given a tagging role?

Tossing up him or Oliver. Down to only 13 trades and the extra cash will come in handy!

Any intel or advice appreciated!

LOL GGF!  ;D

Ha - no need to be like that.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Ringo on June 21, 2018, 01:20:54 PM
Quote from: Blues Blues Blues on June 21, 2018, 07:13:53 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 20, 2018, 11:34:55 PM
Quote from: Blues Blues Blues on June 20, 2018, 09:53:25 PM
Seriously stumped with this bloke.

So cheap at $400k and has a BE of 15 and projected to go up by $33k with a score of 90.

Is he back??

A few scores of 100+ but also a few stinkers. Will he be given a tagging role?

Tossing up him or Oliver. Down to only 13 trades and the extra cash will come in handy!

Any intel or advice appreciated!

LOL GGF!  ;D

Ha - no need to be like that.
Can understand though as due to caranage a lot of people have 8 trades or less. I have 5  :-[
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Holz on June 21, 2018, 01:33:14 PM
I got 3 and just brough in Rocky.

if i had 13 trades left id jump on Oliver and start trading harder.

thats why i have only 3 trades though
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Holz on July 04, 2018, 11:43:24 AM
Quote from: Holz
Quote from: GoLions
Quote from: MontyJnr
Quote from: Ricochet
Quote from: RaisyDaisy
I think Jroo is a good pick up
Would rather play a rookie instead of trading in this pie fwd
I reckon you would have to be carrying a pretty dodgy M8/F6 for Riewoldt to be worth it. Rarely goes big and only has 2 scores over 101
Bit of Pie bias i think
Clutching at straws Holz

JJK was a similar price and he would have been a better pick

non starting quality bench cover

135 average so far. Playing as the fwd for the #1 team in the comp and priced less then some rookies.

Loving it
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 04, 2018, 11:49:28 AM
Going with 1 game averages now huh?

Played the absolute game of his life, and only got 135

Enjoy the upcoming meh scores

He's a decent bench option, but the actually trade required to use is what I had issue with - someone like Fritsch will score just as much if not more and won't require the use of a trade
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Holz on July 04, 2018, 12:00:13 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 04, 2018, 11:49:28 AM
Going with 1 game averages now huh?

Played the absolute game of his life, and only got 135

Enjoy the upcoming meh scores

He's a decent bench option, but the actually trade required to use is what I had issue with - someone like Fritsch will score just as much if not more and won't require the use of a trade

1. Thats assuming you have fritsch
2. That doesn't take into account the 80k you can pocket to use elsewhere
3. Id back Jroo to beat Fritsch.

anyway lets just see how this pans out. Just needs to average 79 for the rest of the year to pump out a 85+ average for me which is pretty good for his price.

Rocky looking like a equally decent pick but the difference is he cant cover your fwd line and the gap between him and a mid premo is larger.

both Rocky and Jroo still decent pick ups
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Mat0369 on February 08, 2019, 02:11:39 AM
Let us talk about the artist formally known as the GOAT
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Money Shot on February 08, 2019, 08:57:13 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on February 08, 2019, 02:11:39 AM
Let us talk about the artist formally known as the GOAT
Polec out and Wines injured.

Sir Tom “the GOAT” Rockliff will go 120 until round 3 before missing 1-2 weeks with an injury which actually turns into 3 weeks.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: elephants on February 08, 2019, 09:56:36 AM
How about Rocky's first month of last season (52, 33, 78, 43) he then missed two games before coming back and going 127 and 106 before his bye.

Excluding that first month he went at an average of 92 last season. Provided he gets a full preseason under his belt and he shows he clearly has a role that a) isn't deep fwd and b) isn't exclusively negative I could see him pushing 100 again in 2019.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: quinny88 on February 08, 2019, 01:26:16 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on February 08, 2019, 08:57:13 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on February 08, 2019, 02:11:39 AM
Let us talk about the artist formally known as the GOAT
Polec out and Wines injured.

Sir Tom “the GOAT” Rockliff will go 120 until round 3 before missing 1-2 weeks with an injury which actually turns into 3 weeks.

This sounds deadly accurate
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Mat0369 on February 09, 2019, 07:30:40 PM
What would he need to average to be a legit stepping stone? If we're looking at all the mids his price and under, he is unquestionably the best scoring mid of the lot. Last year was doomed from the start with the way he hobbled into the season. It was his worst average since his first where he averaged a whopping 12 in one game.

2011-2017 his lowest average was 96.3 (which was with him trying to play through a screwed shoulder). The other year that he averaged 97ish he played mostly forward and still popped out a few monsters including 163 and 140 in rounds 4 and 5. If we're looking at it from a perspective of risk vs reward I think he is 100% worth the extra 80k over someone like Hanners, 60k over Miles and the 100k over Libba.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on February 09, 2019, 08:32:05 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on February 09, 2019, 07:30:40 PM
What would he need to average to be a legit stepping stone? If we're looking at all the mids his price and under, he is unquestionably the best scoring mid of the lot. Last year was doomed from the start with the way he hobbled into the season. It was his worst average since his first where he averaged a whopping 12 in one game.

2011-2017 his lowest average was 96.3 (which was with him trying to play through a screwed shoulder). The other year that he averaged 97ish he played mostly forward and still popped out a few monsters including 163 and 140 in rounds 4 and 5. If we're looking at it from a perspective of risk vs reward I think he is 100% worth the extra 80k over someone like Hanners, 60k over Miles and the 100k over Libba.

4 tons in 18 games is shizen, then taking into account his 1 ton in the last 12 games of 2017 you are operating at a pathetic 17%. Then factor in his injury record & it's obvious burn man material. Think Hanners is in a similar boat but is at least cheap enough to make you a quick 100k.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Gandalf123 on February 09, 2019, 09:55:47 PM
What’s the definition of insanity?
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: SilverLion on February 09, 2019, 10:23:53 PM
Quote from: Gandalf123 on February 09, 2019, 09:55:47 PM
What’s the definition of insanity?
I believe its doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting a different result.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: elephants on February 09, 2019, 11:29:34 PM
Is it even worth looking back? Things are different now, different team different circumstances different opportunities with an actual preseason under his belt. Excite.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Mat0369 on February 10, 2019, 12:30:06 AM
Quote from: Bully on February 09, 2019, 08:32:05 PM
4 tons in 18 games is shizen, then taking into account his 1 ton in the last 12 games of 2017 you are operating at a pathetic 17%. Then factor in his injury record & it's obvious burn man material. Think Hanners is in a similar boat but is at least cheap enough to make you a quick 100k.

The last 12 of games of 2017, when he dislocated his shoulder real late in the last quarter against the Hawks and struggled to play with it since that point the rest of the season. Prior to that he was averaging 123 with a high of 176 and low of 53.

Looking at a Port team that doesn't bat that deep in the middle. Wingard and Polec are gone, Wines is injured, Boak feels like he is cooked, you have Robbie and Sam Gray, Ebert and SPP. They are pretty one paced which is also going to hurt them. It feels like there is a lot of available time in the guts.

I'm looking at Rocky as this years potential Murphy/Conigs. There is always one guy in that 400k bracket that has a good scoring history and bounces back to be a premium. Assuming that he will get hurt at one point during the year, is it worth using him as a stepping stone at 400k? That 120 average over the first 8 games would see him priced at what?
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: igotworms on February 10, 2019, 08:25:51 AM
Thanks for your service over the years Rocky, you "were" one of my favourites!
Unfortunately you have been relocated from the "GOAT" bin to the "NEVER AGAIN" bin.
Ports midfield struggled last year, particularly towards the tail end of the season. Losing Wingard and Polec (and Wines to injury) is going to really hurt them. A lot is going to fall on to the shoulders of Rocky, Boak, Ebert and SPP, but I think of the lot, Gray is still there best midfielder and hopefully played accordingly. He attended the third most centre bounces last year with the team winning a clearance 49% of the time. I just can't see Rocky reversing the trend of the past two years and regaining his former stature as a contested, ball winning machine. Those shoulders have well and truly buckled under the weight over the previous years. Just my two cents worth, but I see more upside in Miles than Rocky.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on February 10, 2019, 09:40:11 AM
Biggest burn man in the game

He could start the year with tons in every match and I couldn't care less. I'll never pick him again
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: elephants on February 10, 2019, 09:51:43 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on February 10, 2019, 12:30:06 AM
Quote from: Bully on February 09, 2019, 08:32:05 PM
4 tons in 18 games is shizen, then taking into account his 1 ton in the last 12 games of 2017 you are operating at a pathetic 17%. Then factor in his injury record & it's obvious burn man material. Think Hanners is in a similar boat but is at least cheap enough to make you a quick 100k.

The last 12 of games of 2017, when he dislocated his shoulder real late in the last quarter against the Hawks and struggled to play with it since that point the rest of the season. Prior to that he was averaging 123 with a high of 176 and low of 53.

Looking at a Port team that doesn't bat that deep in the middle. Wingard and Polec are gone, Wines is injured, Boak feels like he is cooked, you have Robbie and Sam Gray, Ebert and SPP. They are pretty one paced which is also going to hurt them. It feels like there is a lot of available time in the guts.

I'm looking at Rocky as this years potential Murphy/Conigs. There is always one guy in that 400k bracket that has a good scoring history and bounces back to be a premium. Assuming that he will get hurt at one point during the year, is it worth using him as a stepping stone at 400k? That 120 average over the first 8 games would see him priced at what?

I actually dont hate this. Ports midfield actually looks thin as, and slow as, a problem neither Rocky or R.Gray fix imo, but if ever theres a chance for Rocky to go in and average ~105 it's now. The midfield should be his to run for the first 1-2 months of the season, even if they do put Gray on ball.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: shaker on February 10, 2019, 10:18:30 AM
Quote from: elephants on February 10, 2019, 09:51:43 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on February 10, 2019, 12:30:06 AM
Quote from: Bully on February 09, 2019, 08:32:05 PM
4 tons in 18 games is shizen, then taking into account his 1 ton in the last 12 games of 2017 you are operating at a pathetic 17%. Then factor in his injury record & it's obvious burn man material. Think Hanners is in a similar boat but is at least cheap enough to make you a quick 100k.

The last 12 of games of 2017, when he dislocated his shoulder real late in the last quarter against the Hawks and struggled to play with it since that point the rest of the season. Prior to that he was averaging 123 with a high of 176 and low of 53.

Looking at a Port team that doesn't bat that deep in the middle. Wingard and Polec are gone, Wines is injured, Boak feels like he is cooked, you have Robbie and Sam Gray, Ebert and SPP. They are pretty one paced which is also going to hurt them. It feels like there is a lot of available time in the guts.

I'm looking at Rocky as this years potential Murphy/Conigs. There is always one guy in that 400k bracket that has a good scoring history and bounces back to be a premium. Assuming that he will get hurt at one point during the year, is it worth using him as a stepping stone at 400k? That 120 average over the first 8 games would see him priced at what?

I actually dont hate this. Ports midfield actually looks thin as, and slow as, a problem neither Rocky or R.Gray fix imo, but if ever theres a chance for Rocky to go in and average ~105 it's now. The midfield should be his to run for the first 1-2 months of the season, even if they do put Gray on ball.
Lets see how he looks JLT if he plays if he does not then would find it hard to pick him , Miles a safer option at this stage
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: elephants on February 10, 2019, 10:46:03 AM
Quote from: shaker on February 10, 2019, 10:18:30 AM
Quote from: elephants on February 10, 2019, 09:51:43 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on February 10, 2019, 12:30:06 AM
Quote from: Bully on February 09, 2019, 08:32:05 PM
4 tons in 18 games is shizen, then taking into account his 1 ton in the last 12 games of 2017 you are operating at a pathetic 17%. Then factor in his injury record & it's obvious burn man material. Think Hanners is in a similar boat but is at least cheap enough to make you a quick 100k.

The last 12 of games of 2017, when he dislocated his shoulder real late in the last quarter against the Hawks and struggled to play with it since that point the rest of the season. Prior to that he was averaging 123 with a high of 176 and low of 53.

Looking at a Port team that doesn't bat that deep in the middle. Wingard and Polec are gone, Wines is injured, Boak feels like he is cooked, you have Robbie and Sam Gray, Ebert and SPP. They are pretty one paced which is also going to hurt them. It feels like there is a lot of available time in the guts.

I'm looking at Rocky as this years potential Murphy/Conigs. There is always one guy in that 400k bracket that has a good scoring history and bounces back to be a premium. Assuming that he will get hurt at one point during the year, is it worth using him as a stepping stone at 400k? That 120 average over the first 8 games would see him priced at what?

I actually dont hate this. Ports midfield actually looks thin as, and slow as, a problem neither Rocky or R.Gray fix imo, but if ever theres a chance for Rocky to go in and average ~105 it's now. The midfield should be his to run for the first 1-2 months of the season, even if they do put Gray on ball.
Lets see how he looks JLT if he plays if he does not then would find it hard to pick him , Miles a safer option at this stage

Big article about Motlop moving on ball after a flawless preseason. I buy that big time, such a slow one paced midfield, get some flair on ball!
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Gandalf123 on February 10, 2019, 11:41:38 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on February 09, 2019, 10:23:53 PM
Quote from: Gandalf123 on February 09, 2019, 09:55:47 PM
What’s the definition of insanity?
I believe its doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting a different result.
Think the definition has a picture of Rocky’s head next to it also
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: shaker on February 10, 2019, 12:41:56 PM
Quote from: elephants on February 10, 2019, 10:46:03 AM
Quote from: shaker on February 10, 2019, 10:18:30 AM
Quote from: elephants on February 10, 2019, 09:51:43 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on February 10, 2019, 12:30:06 AM
Quote from: Bully on February 09, 2019, 08:32:05 PM
4 tons in 18 games is shizen, then taking into account his 1 ton in the last 12 games of 2017 you are operating at a pathetic 17%. Then factor in his injury record & it's obvious burn man material. Think Hanners is in a similar boat but is at least cheap enough to make you a quick 100k.

The last 12 of games of 2017, when he dislocated his shoulder real late in the last quarter against the Hawks and struggled to play with it since that point the rest of the season. Prior to that he was averaging 123 with a high of 176 and low of 53.

Looking at a Port team that doesn't bat that deep in the middle. Wingard and Polec are gone, Wines is injured, Boak feels like he is cooked, you have Robbie and Sam Gray, Ebert and SPP. They are pretty one paced which is also going to hurt them. It feels like there is a lot of available time in the guts.

I'm looking at Rocky as this years potential Murphy/Conigs. There is always one guy in that 400k bracket that has a good scoring history and bounces back to be a premium. Assuming that he will get hurt at one point during the year, is it worth using him as a stepping stone at 400k? That 120 average over the first 8 games would see him priced at what?

I actually dont hate this. Ports midfield actually looks thin as, and slow as, a problem neither Rocky or R.Gray fix imo, but if ever theres a chance for Rocky to go in and average ~105 it's now. The midfield should be his to run for the first 1-2 months of the season, even if they do put Gray on ball.
Lets see how he looks JLT if he plays if he does not then would find it hard to pick him , Miles a safer option at this stage

Big article about Motlop moving on ball after a flawless preseason. I buy that big time, such a slow one paced midfield, get some flair on ball!
Does moving a player who has been highly inconsistent all his career to the mids make him consistent ? me thinks not  ;)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: elephants on February 10, 2019, 01:57:07 PM
Quote from: shaker on February 10, 2019, 12:41:56 PM
Quote from: elephants on February 10, 2019, 10:46:03 AM
Quote from: shaker on February 10, 2019, 10:18:30 AM
Quote from: elephants on February 10, 2019, 09:51:43 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on February 10, 2019, 12:30:06 AM
Quote from: Bully on February 09, 2019, 08:32:05 PM
4 tons in 18 games is shizen, then taking into account his 1 ton in the last 12 games of 2017 you are operating at a pathetic 17%. Then factor in his injury record & it's obvious burn man material. Think Hanners is in a similar boat but is at least cheap enough to make you a quick 100k.

The last 12 of games of 2017, when he dislocated his shoulder real late in the last quarter against the Hawks and struggled to play with it since that point the rest of the season. Prior to that he was averaging 123 with a high of 176 and low of 53.

Looking at a Port team that doesn't bat that deep in the middle. Wingard and Polec are gone, Wines is injured, Boak feels like he is cooked, you have Robbie and Sam Gray, Ebert and SPP. They are pretty one paced which is also going to hurt them. It feels like there is a lot of available time in the guts.

I'm looking at Rocky as this years potential Murphy/Conigs. There is always one guy in that 400k bracket that has a good scoring history and bounces back to be a premium. Assuming that he will get hurt at one point during the year, is it worth using him as a stepping stone at 400k? That 120 average over the first 8 games would see him priced at what?

I actually dont hate this. Ports midfield actually looks thin as, and slow as, a problem neither Rocky or R.Gray fix imo, but if ever theres a chance for Rocky to go in and average ~105 it's now. The midfield should be his to run for the first 1-2 months of the season, even if they do put Gray on ball.
Lets see how he looks JLT if he plays if he does not then would find it hard to pick him , Miles a safer option at this stage

Big article about Motlop moving on ball after a flawless preseason. I buy that big time, such a slow one paced midfield, get some flair on ball!
Does moving a player who has been highly inconsistent all his career to the mids make him consistent ? me thinks not  ;)

I don't remember saying he was or ever will be consistent..? I said he is moving into the midfield as a necessity (Port have a very one dimensional, one-paced midfield) and coming off a perfect preseason (which he hasn't had for a number of years).

At only 27 years of age (still in his prime) he's banked years of 82, 90 and 83 at Geelong and I can see him playing that Wingard split role between midfield and forward this season. Worth a sneaky late draft flyer as a bench forward, guaranteed he won't be picked up with that stinky 67 avg hanging over his head! Definitely up to 15 points improvement in him imo




As for Rocky, Wines missing early is his only chance to cement a role. If you're thinking about it you have to start with him 8)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on February 10, 2019, 03:10:32 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on February 10, 2019, 12:30:06 AM
Quote from: Bully on February 09, 2019, 08:32:05 PM
4 tons in 18 games is shizen, then taking into account his 1 ton in the last 12 games of 2017 you are operating at a pathetic 17%. Then factor in his injury record & it's obvious burn man material. Think Hanners is in a similar boat but is at least cheap enough to make you a quick 100k.

The last 12 of games of 2017, when he dislocated his shoulder real late in the last quarter against the Hawks and struggled to play with it since that point the rest of the season. Prior to that he was averaging 123 with a high of 176 and low of 53.

Looking at a Port team that doesn't bat that deep in the middle. Wingard and Polec are gone, Wines is injured, Boak feels like he is cooked, you have Robbie and Sam Gray, Ebert and SPP. They are pretty one paced which is also going to hurt them. It feels like there is a lot of available time in the guts.

I'm looking at Rocky as this years potential Murphy/Conigs. There is always one guy in that 400k bracket that has a good scoring history and bounces back to be a premium. Assuming that he will get hurt at one point during the year, is it worth using him as a stepping stone at 400k? That 120 average over the first 8 games would see him priced at what?

Think you are looking for reasons to pick him & ignoring the reasons as to why he's totally unsuitable. There's a 30 game sample sitting right there & it tells a tale, not in the slightest bit convinced Rocky is this year's renaissance man. Think you would have better luck with Hanners or Miles, wouldn't be picking Libba based on the fact he's coming off two recos.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: kilbluff1985 on February 11, 2019, 12:41:11 AM
i think its hilarious u kids talking shower about Rocky. u wouldnt say this shower to him at practice, hes jacked. not only that but he wears the freshest clothes, eats at the chillest restaurants and hangs out with the hottest women. yall are pathetic lol.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Big Mac on February 11, 2019, 12:58:26 AM
Go to bed kb
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Mat0369 on February 13, 2019, 12:58:24 AM
Quote from: Bully on February 10, 2019, 03:10:32 PM
Think you are looking for reasons to pick him & ignoring the reasons as to why he's totally unsuitable. There's a 30 game sample sitting right there & it tells a tale, not in the slightest bit convinced Rocky is this year's renaissance man. Think you would have better luck with Hanners or Miles, wouldn't be picking Libba based on the fact he's coming off two recos.

There are two reasons to not pick him. He will inevitably get injured and when Wines comes back how does the midfield rotation work.

The thing is I'm not looking at him as a keeper. I'm looking at him as guy that has a rock solid scoring history when healthy and the ability to go huge.

For everyone that is picking Dusty, he averaged 98 in his last 14 games and is priced at 103.8, yet people are picking him because he was carrying an injury for the second half of the season.

Marc Murphy averaged a whopping 79 in 2016 and bounced back the year after to average 108.

So again, the question is how much cash would Rocky make if he was to average 100, 110 and 120 over the first 8 at his current price?
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on February 13, 2019, 11:43:54 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on February 13, 2019, 12:58:24 AM
Quote from: Bully on February 10, 2019, 03:10:32 PM
Think you are looking for reasons to pick him & ignoring the reasons as to why he's totally unsuitable. There's a 30 game sample sitting right there & it tells a tale, not in the slightest bit convinced Rocky is this year's renaissance man. Think you would have better luck with Hanners or Miles, wouldn't be picking Libba based on the fact he's coming off two recos.

There are two reasons to not pick him. He will inevitably get injured and when Wines comes back how does the midfield rotation work.

The thing is I'm not looking at him as a keeper. I'm looking at him as guy that has a rock solid scoring history when healthy and the ability to go huge.

For everyone that is picking Dusty, he averaged 98 in his last 14 games and is priced at 103.8, yet people are picking him because he was carrying an injury for the second half of the season.

Marc Murphy averaged a whopping 79 in 2016 and bounced back the year after to average 108.

So again, the question is how much cash would Rocky make if he was to average 100, 110 and 120 over the first 8 at his current price?

Rocky won't score anything close to that, no way, would bet my house on it. He's also 400k, you might make 100k but you probably won't given he hasn't cracked the ton too often in the past 30 games. Too awkwardly priced.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: kilbluff1985 on February 13, 2019, 04:32:07 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-02-13/i-passed-the-powellpepper-fitness-test-rocky-ready-to-rumble?fbclid=IwAR3HzrAeKF7M9pPP89GS1UjRebE69SN__GVFmIOYehBzcNOu_luV6vScXIw
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Mat0369 on February 13, 2019, 06:11:26 PM
Was about to post the same article. I'm taking the plunge
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: SilverLion on March 09, 2019, 01:35:32 PM
Bumping coz he's played a good quarter.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Mat0369 on March 09, 2019, 02:22:10 PM
I just saw the stats. Holy hell. 21 touches, 2 goals and 92 DT in a half!

Boak looking good as well
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: kilbluff1985 on March 09, 2019, 03:39:34 PM
 :o
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Mat0369 on March 09, 2019, 03:42:39 PM
Yeah, this is the ceiling I was talking about. Even for JLT this is insane.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: tkringle on March 09, 2019, 03:45:17 PM
Watch his ownership grow. Currently in 3% of teams
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Mat0369 on March 09, 2019, 03:48:51 PM
Quote from: tkringle on March 09, 2019, 03:45:17 PM
Watch his ownership grow. Currently in 3% of teams

Crouch owners will be happy. Just saw that ownership drop after last night's game
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: hawkers65 on March 09, 2019, 03:54:11 PM
Jheeze he has just said hold my beer Crouch owners :o Gonna be hard to say no to
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: _wato on March 09, 2019, 04:07:31 PM
Well well well

Rocky 170 sc
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: enzedder on March 09, 2019, 04:37:38 PM
Never heard of him. Any relation to that Brisbane bloke?
Seriously though think I have the fortitude to pass.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Money Shot on March 09, 2019, 04:40:15 PM
M. Crouch, B. Crouch, Rocky, Miles, Libba

Lock it in
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 09, 2019, 04:41:44 PM
Thank you Rocky! Going to lure so many people in now, only to burn them in the season. Beautiful!
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on March 09, 2019, 04:45:42 PM
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Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Mat0369 on March 09, 2019, 04:58:51 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 09, 2019, 04:41:44 PM
Thank you Rocky! Going to lure so many people in now, only to burn them in the season. Beautiful!

Or he averages 130 the first 9 weeks. Worth the risk
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: kilbluff1985 on March 09, 2019, 05:00:40 PM
yep if he does poorly 1st 2 weeks can just trade him to miles, libba or brad
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: jvalles69 on March 09, 2019, 05:01:42 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 09, 2019, 04:41:44 PM
Thank you Rocky! Going to lure so many people in now, only to burn them in the season. Beautiful!

Make up your mind, you said you're only locking in Libba, Williams and Greene due to historically being proven premos. Now you disrespect the pig who historically is better than those 3 combined and a bag of potato chips...
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: eaglesman on March 09, 2019, 05:05:28 PM
Just when I bought I was done .... our Fyfe in rocky
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 09, 2019, 05:05:47 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on March 09, 2019, 05:01:42 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 09, 2019, 04:41:44 PM
Thank you Rocky! Going to lure so many people in now, only to burn them in the season. Beautiful!

Make up your mind, you said you're only locking in Libba, Williams and Greene due to historically being proven premos. Now you disrespect the pig who historically is better than those 3 combined and a bag of potato chips...

Rocky is the biggest burn man in the entire comp

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me

He is #1 on my never again list
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: sammy123 on March 09, 2019, 05:12:15 PM
I knew 1 JLT game and people would go nuts. I swear people would jump on mason cox if he scores 200 against Carlton
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: jvalles69 on March 09, 2019, 05:13:44 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 09, 2019, 05:05:47 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on March 09, 2019, 05:01:42 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 09, 2019, 04:41:44 PM
Thank you Rocky! Going to lure so many people in now, only to burn them in the season. Beautiful!

Make up your mind, you said you're only locking in Libba, Williams and Greene due to historically being proven premos. Now you disrespect the pig who historically is better than those 3 combined and a bag of potato chips...

Rocky is the biggest burn man in the entire comp

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me

He is #1 on my never again list

Libbas burnt ppl twice, crouch too at least twice. Will definitely be watching Rocky for his first few games, if he goes huge 2 games in a row I'll have to bring him in.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Mat0369 on March 09, 2019, 05:16:15 PM
Quote from: sammy123 on March 09, 2019, 05:12:15 PM
I knew 1 JLT game and people would go nuts. I swear people would jump on mason cox if he scores 200 against Carlton

Difference between Mason Cox and Tom Rockliff is only one of the two has averaged 130 though a home and away season
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: _wato on March 09, 2019, 05:28:15 PM
Got a feeling Rocky is gonna do a Marc Murphy of 2017, coming off an injury interrupted year / pre season and underpriced accordingly. Superior SC scoring history and priced in the 400's.

Come out of the blokes and go bananas until Wines is back and then average 100ish for the rest of the year.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: hawkers65 on March 09, 2019, 05:39:04 PM
Quote from: _wato on March 09, 2019, 05:28:15 PM
Got a feeling Rocky is gonna do a Marc Murphy of 2017, coming off an injury interrupted year / pre season and underpriced accordingly. Superior SC scoring history and priced in the 400's.

Come out of the blokes and go bananas until Wines is back and then average 100ish for the rest of the year.

How long is Wines out for?
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Money Shot on March 09, 2019, 05:46:42 PM
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 09, 2019, 05:39:04 PM
Quote from: _wato on March 09, 2019, 05:28:15 PM
Got a feeling Rocky is gonna do a Marc Murphy of 2017, coming off an injury interrupted year / pre season and underpriced accordingly. Superior SC scoring history and priced in the 400's.

Come out of the blokes and go bananas until Wines is back and then average 100ish for the rest of the year.

How long is Wines out for?
Not long enough.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 09, 2019, 06:25:29 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on March 09, 2019, 05:13:44 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 09, 2019, 05:05:47 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on March 09, 2019, 05:01:42 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 09, 2019, 04:41:44 PM
Thank you Rocky! Going to lure so many people in now, only to burn them in the season. Beautiful!

Make up your mind, you said you're only locking in Libba, Williams and Greene due to historically being proven premos. Now you disrespect the pig who historically is better than those 3 combined and a bag of potato chips...

Rocky is the biggest burn man in the entire comp

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me

He is #1 on my never again list

Libbas burnt ppl twice, crouch too at least twice. Will definitely be watching Rocky for his first few games, if he goes huge 2 games in a row I'll have to bring him in.

Getting injured isn't a burn in my books, just bad luck. Someone cops an LTI you trade and move on. Real burn men just continue to tease and under deliver. You keep them telling yourself they'll turn it around, but they destroy you

Rocky is the burn man because he lures people in with a big score, and everyone gets nostalgic and thinks he's back, and then turns to shower

75avg last year and 95avg the year before. I gave him ANOTHER chance last year and he destroyed me. Been irrelevant for 2+ years now, the glory days are well and truly behind us
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Mat0369 on March 09, 2019, 07:07:43 PM
So last year when no one was going to pick him being under done, playing forward and coming off shoulder sugery. Or the year before where he went nuts before dislocating his shoulder and coming back early and trying to play through it to little effect.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Commander on March 09, 2019, 07:48:27 PM
The thing with Rocky is his role is never the same each week. Playing in the guts he's great but just watch him go forward the following week or used as a tagger and he goes to shower. It's a no from me!
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Keeper27 on March 09, 2019, 07:54:20 PM
realistically i can see him going 100-105, and @ $406K he'll make you points and some money.
if he goes 100 for 1st 10 rounds he makes $85K while giving you premium scoring, but then a rookie will be ready to be cut and you can bring in anyone you want.

i dont expect him to be a keeper or to bang out 170's... but a 100 in that team with Wines out for a while is realistic
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: crowls on March 10, 2019, 02:53:21 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on March 09, 2019, 05:13:44 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 09, 2019, 05:05:47 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on March 09, 2019, 05:01:42 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 09, 2019, 04:41:44 PM
Thank you Rocky! Going to lure so many people in now, only to burn them in the season. Beautiful!

Make up your mind, you said you're only locking in Libba, Williams and Greene due to historically being proven premos. Now you disrespect the pig who historically is better than those 3 combined and a bag of potato chips...
love jlt pig scores so hard to ignore but not statistically relevant.

Rocky is the biggest burn man in the entire comp

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me

He is #1 on my never again list

Libbas burnt ppl twice, crouch too at least twice. Will definitely be watching Rocky for his first few games, if he goes huge 2 games in a row I'll have to bring him in.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: frenzy on March 10, 2019, 10:38:58 PM
Quote from: crowls on March 10, 2019, 02:53:21 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on March 09, 2019, 05:13:44 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 09, 2019, 05:05:47 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on March 09, 2019, 05:01:42 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 09, 2019, 04:41:44 PM
Thank you Rocky! Going to lure so many people in now, only to burn them in the season. Beautiful!

Make up your mind, you said you're only locking in Libba, Williams and Greene due to historically being proven premos. Now you disrespect the pig who historically is better than those 3 combined and a bag of potato chips...
love jlt pig scores so hard to ignore but not statistically relevant.

Rocky is the biggest burn man in the entire comp

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me

He is #1 on my never again list

Libbas burnt ppl twice, crouch too at least twice. Will definitely be watching Rocky for his first few games, if he goes huge 2 games in a row I'll have to bring him in.

Hehe, you can add Toby to your list of burnt fingers. I wanna see a couple of seasons of 90+ back to back before he gets another look in.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: djtranny on March 13, 2019, 05:36:55 PM
Rocky gonna have a big year, just you watch!
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 13, 2019, 05:47:49 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/gCh9t4y.gif)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on March 13, 2019, 05:49:15 PM
Hooch is crazy
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 13, 2019, 05:53:18 PM
Quote from: GoLions on March 13, 2019, 05:49:15 PM
Hooch is crazy

That GIF was just for you, and that was the exact reply I knew you'd say haha  ;D
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: sammy123 on March 13, 2019, 08:54:00 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 13, 2019, 05:47:49 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/gCh9t4y.gif)

I appreciate this as i just finished watching scrubs
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Mat0369 on March 13, 2019, 09:30:02 PM
He is up to about 11% of teams from the 1% in early Feb. Will be interested to see how that changes as we get closer.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Wanderer on March 14, 2019, 07:33:30 PM
The more people that jump onto the burn man the better I say. Let's talk it up to the 20% ownership rate.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Jalapeno on March 22, 2019, 12:00:39 PM
Why can't I help but feel like not picking this man is going to be a bad move.

Named in the middle, a real chance to go 140+ in his first game. Proceed at $400k.

Please talk me out of it
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: frenzy on March 22, 2019, 12:13:27 PM
Quote from: Jalapeno on March 22, 2019, 12:00:39 PM
Why can't I help but feel like not picking this man is going to be a bad move.

Named in the middle, a real chance to go 140+ in his first game. Proceed at $400k.

Please talk me out of it

Ollie is not far off
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Wanderer on March 22, 2019, 12:42:03 PM
Quote from: Jalapeno on March 22, 2019, 12:00:39 PM
Why can't I help but feel like not picking this man is going to be a bad move.

Named in the middle, a real chance to go 140+ in his first game. Proceed at $400k.

Please talk me out of it
High risk/high reward, it's that simple
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Jalapeno on March 22, 2019, 01:19:42 PM
Quote from: Wanderer on March 22, 2019, 12:42:03 PM
Quote from: Jalapeno on March 22, 2019, 12:00:39 PM
Why can't I help but feel like not picking this man is going to be a bad move.

Named in the middle, a real chance to go 140+ in his first game. Proceed at $400k.

Please talk me out of it
High risk/high reward, it's that simple

Arghh this makes me want him more tho hahaha
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Wanderer on March 22, 2019, 02:24:02 PM
Quote from: Jalapeno on March 22, 2019, 01:19:42 PM
Quote from: Wanderer on March 22, 2019, 12:42:03 PM
Quote from: Jalapeno on March 22, 2019, 12:00:39 PM
Why can't I help but feel like not picking this man is going to be a bad move.

Named in the middle, a real chance to go 140+ in his first game. Proceed at $400k.

Please talk me out of it
High risk/high reward, it's that simple

Arghh this makes me want him more tho hahaha
Haha.....look at it this way, what is the worst case scenario. If you can manage that risk, then just go for it.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: SilverLion on March 22, 2019, 04:46:23 PM
Not who he once was. Don't do it.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Jalapeno on March 22, 2019, 04:58:58 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on March 22, 2019, 04:46:23 PM
Not who he once was. Don't do it.

I have decided against it. This helped me
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Wanderer on March 22, 2019, 05:09:39 PM
Quote from: Jalapeno on March 22, 2019, 04:58:58 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on March 22, 2019, 04:46:23 PM
Not who he once was. Don't do it.

I have decided against it. This helped me
Are you sure we can't convince you otherwise? He has been known to pump out monster scores and is very cheap for a ball magnet.  :P
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: SilverLion on March 22, 2019, 05:20:05 PM
Quote from: Wanderer on March 22, 2019, 05:09:39 PM
Quote from: Jalapeno on March 22, 2019, 04:58:58 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on March 22, 2019, 04:46:23 PM
Not who he once was. Don't do it.

I have decided against it. This helped me
Are you sure we can't convince you otherwise? He has been known to pump out monster scores and is very cheap for a ball magnet.  :P
He can, and probably will. But he will also no doubt pump out 40s and 50s and get his shoulders injured and miss 2-3 weeks that turns into half the season.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: North Melbournes Finest on March 22, 2019, 06:03:39 PM
He's in my team at the moment...... FUAAAARK. I can really see him bouncing back this year.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Jalapeno on March 22, 2019, 06:56:45 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on March 22, 2019, 05:20:05 PM
Quote from: Wanderer on March 22, 2019, 05:09:39 PM
Quote from: Jalapeno on March 22, 2019, 04:58:58 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on March 22, 2019, 04:46:23 PM
Not who he once was. Don't do it.

I have decided against it. This helped me
Are you sure we can't convince you otherwise? He has been known to pump out monster scores and is very cheap for a ball magnet.  :P
He can, and probably will. But he will also no doubt pump out 40s and 50s and get his shoulders injured and miss 2-3 weeks that turns into half the season.

Hahaha oh god. This has been the hardest decision of my year to be honest. So much upside and so much downside
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Miss Pies on March 23, 2019, 12:21:01 AM
He's up to 13.7% I have never had him in my team so I do not have any scold marks. Very tempted at that price I tell ya.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Mat0369 on March 23, 2019, 04:25:22 PM
(https://content.boards.philadelphiaeagles.com/emoticons/default_worthy.gif)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Wanderer on March 23, 2019, 04:27:11 PM
Watch all the correction trades go burn man's way  :P
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Mat0369 on March 23, 2019, 04:30:49 PM
Don't need a correction trade if you start him!
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on March 23, 2019, 04:31:38 PM
Started him in DT and AF at least ahaha
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Sabretooth Tigers on March 23, 2019, 04:59:07 PM
 8)

Was tossing up between Rocky and Libba and decided it was easier to get Libba in with a correction trade if necessary. Go Rocky !!

;)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: enzedder on March 23, 2019, 06:37:41 PM
One game doth butter no parsnips but I will put him on watch for next week.
Will be difficult for me to bring him in regardless.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Worpedo on March 23, 2019, 06:43:58 PM
He is a Jet. Worth the punt as Hinkley wont be changing much after that performance.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Miss Pies on March 23, 2019, 11:45:51 PM
I ended up going Rockliff and put the VC on him.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Grazz on March 23, 2019, 11:50:27 PM
Quote from: Miss Pies on March 23, 2019, 11:45:51 PM
I ended up going Rockliff and put the VC on him.

Well done, gotta risk it to get the biscuit.
Gawn for me.  :'(
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Miss Pies on March 23, 2019, 11:54:18 PM
Quote from: Grazz on March 23, 2019, 11:50:27 PM
Quote from: Miss Pies on March 23, 2019, 11:45:51 PM
I ended up going Rockliff and put the VC on him.

Well done, gotta risk it to get the biscuit.
Gawn for me.  :'(

Thanks, Grazz. I had Dom Sheed too lol. I'm nuts
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Grazz on March 24, 2019, 12:46:58 AM
Quote from: Miss Pies on March 23, 2019, 11:54:18 PM
Quote from: Grazz on March 23, 2019, 11:50:27 PM
Quote from: Miss Pies on March 23, 2019, 11:45:51 PM
I ended up going Rockliff and put the VC on him.

Well done, gotta risk it to get the biscuit.
Gawn for me.  :'(

Thanks, Grazz. I had Dom Sheed too lol. I'm nuts

Yeh got Sheed in all three comps.
GM talked me into grabbing him, so I can't take any credit for it really.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: StuL on March 27, 2019, 10:58:52 PM
Is it worth selling anyone other than Macrae, Cripps or Fyfe to get the GOAT, including your own family?
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: js19 on March 27, 2019, 11:02:19 PM
Quote from: StuL on March 27, 2019, 10:58:52 PM
Is it worth selling anyone other than Macrae, Cripps or Fyfe to get the GOAT, including your own family?

The only straight swap you can do for Rocky is Chuck Norris, or a Coles Stickeez Golden Banana...
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: StuL on March 27, 2019, 11:23:07 PM
Rocky might have Curnow for company and score 80? Thoughts?
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: js19 on March 27, 2019, 11:24:40 PM
Quote from: StuL on March 27, 2019, 11:23:07 PM
Rocky might have Curnow for company and score 80? Thoughts?

Possibly, but he'll probably score just as much on whoever goes to him in the second half  ;D
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: fanTCfool on March 27, 2019, 11:27:06 PM
Quote from: StuL on March 27, 2019, 11:23:07 PM
Rocky might have Curnow for company and score 80? Thoughts?

Carlton typically don't tag Rockliff - don't rate his impact. In 2016 he scored 204 and 159 against us. My guess is we're more likely to put the clamps on Gray when he's on the ball.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Mat0369 on March 27, 2019, 11:29:19 PM
Curnow doesn't tag anymore. They're playing him at HF this year, if he goes to anyone it's probably Ryan Burton anyway
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: North Melbournes Finest on March 30, 2019, 09:29:29 AM
Quote from: js19 on March 27, 2019, 11:24:40 PM
Quote from: StuL on March 27, 2019, 11:23:07 PM
Rocky might have Curnow for company and score 80? Thoughts?

Possibly, but he'll probably score just as much on whoever goes to him in the second half  ;D
Oh damn  :o
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: js19 on March 30, 2019, 06:18:32 PM
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on March 30, 2019, 09:29:29 AM
Quote from: js19 on March 27, 2019, 11:24:40 PM
Quote from: StuL on March 27, 2019, 11:23:07 PM
Rocky might have Curnow for company and score 80? Thoughts?

Possibly, but he'll probably score just as much on whoever goes to him in the second half  ;D
Oh damn  :o

I miscalculated here. 90 at the half, not 80 ;D
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 30, 2019, 06:18:34 PM
#1 on my burn man never again list, and here I am yet again being lured in lol

I know he'll burn me, and I know I'll probably regret it, but it's all business, nothing personal, and he can't be ignored now

Full preseason seems to have unleashed his full pigginess so it's time to get on board and feel the burn!
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Mat0369 on March 30, 2019, 06:23:31 PM
I brought in Hoff to burn me instead  :P
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on March 30, 2019, 06:29:30 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 30, 2019, 06:18:34 PM
#1 on my burn man never again list, and here I am yet again being lured in lol

I know he'll burn me, and I know I'll probably regret it, but it's all business, nothing personal, and he can't be ignored now

Full preseason seems to have unleashed his full pigginess so it's time to get on board and feel the burn!

Becoming compelling, question is who gets axe. Walsh up to Rocky somehow, will need some time to work this out.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: tkringle on March 30, 2019, 06:33:51 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 30, 2019, 06:29:30 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 30, 2019, 06:18:34 PM
#1 on my burn man never again list, and here I am yet again being lured in lol

I know he'll burn me, and I know I'll probably regret it, but it's all business, nothing personal, and he can't be ignored now

Full preseason seems to have unleashed his full pigginess so it's time to get on board and feel the burn!

Becoming compelling, question is who gets axe. Walsh up to Rocky somehow, will need some time to work this out.

Looks like I’ve found my Dusty replacement
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on March 30, 2019, 06:42:01 PM
Quote from: tkringle on March 30, 2019, 06:33:51 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 30, 2019, 06:29:30 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 30, 2019, 06:18:34 PM
#1 on my burn man never again list, and here I am yet again being lured in lol

I know he'll burn me, and I know I'll probably regret it, but it's all business, nothing personal, and he can't be ignored now

Full preseason seems to have unleashed his full pigginess so it's time to get on board and feel the burn!

Becoming compelling, question is who gets axe. Walsh up to Rocky somehow, will need some time to work this out.

Well, might even consider Oliver to Rocky, Walsh up to Sheed. Seems like mid price madness is the way to go this year.

Looks like I’ve found my Dusty replacement
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Mongoose528 on March 30, 2019, 06:46:55 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 30, 2019, 06:42:01 PM
Quote from: tkringle on March 30, 2019, 06:33:51 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 30, 2019, 06:29:30 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 30, 2019, 06:18:34 PM
#1 on my burn man never again list, and here I am yet again being lured in lol

I know he'll burn me, and I know I'll probably regret it, but it's all business, nothing personal, and he can't be ignored now

Full preseason seems to have unleashed his full pigginess so it's time to get on board and feel the burn!

Becoming compelling, question is who gets axe. Walsh up to Rocky somehow, will need some time to work this out.

Well, might even consider Oliver to Rocky, Walsh up to Sheed. Seems like mid price madness is the way to go this year.

Looks like I’ve found my Dusty replacement
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: kilbluff1985 on March 30, 2019, 06:47:33 PM
oink oink
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: PowerBug on March 30, 2019, 08:46:21 PM
How is it a never again list if you're considering them? ;)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Gigantor on March 30, 2019, 08:49:41 PM
Never again is like GOAT, totally overused  ;D
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on March 30, 2019, 08:52:49 PM
All you cows who spoke shower about him before can flower right off tbh
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Locinator on March 30, 2019, 09:52:57 PM
Was feeling tempted by Rocky, but after looking at his score I've reconsidered.

In his two last performances, he has had 44 and 37 touches. Those are clearly out of the box games. I think best case scenario, Rocky regresses to a 28-30 touch average and average 100-105, which I can see the appeal in. But there are too many worst case scenarios for me to take him. Impact of Wines returning, potential forward rotations, injury, tag (we saw tonight it really slowed him).

I think he is worth a punt if you have a midpricer you want to correct this round, say if Libba throws out a stinker, but he is not worth downgrading a premo to.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: js19 on March 30, 2019, 10:11:24 PM
Quote from: Locinator on March 30, 2019, 09:52:57 PM
Was feeling tempted by Rocky, but after looking at his score I've reconsidered.

In his two last performances, he has had 44 and 37 touches. Those are clearly out of the box games. I think best case scenario, Rocky regresses to a 28-30 touch average and average 100-105, which I can see the appeal in. But there are too many worst case scenarios for me to take him. Impact of Wines returning, potential forward rotations, injury, tag (we saw tonight it really slowed him).

I think he is worth a punt if you have a midpricer you want to correct this round, say if Libba throws out a stinker, but he is not worth downgrading a premo to.

As someone who started him I'm very happy, but not sure I'd trade to get him in after the fact. Was always thinking I'd have to trade him at some stage, but if he keeps going he'd be a great M8 at the price obviously.

Spent 4 trades on him a couple of years back, so still a bit cut (but not enough to leave him out of my starting team ;D)
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on March 30, 2019, 10:13:24 PM
Quote from: Locinator on March 30, 2019, 09:52:57 PM
Was feeling tempted by Rocky, but after looking at his score I've reconsidered.

In his two last performances, he has had 44 and 37 touches. Those are clearly out of the box games.
Nah yeah i agree. Hasn't even hit 50 touches in a game yet. Must still be playing through injury so I'll stay away for now.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on March 30, 2019, 10:15:34 PM
With Oliver rebounding in the best way possible I simply can't get him in, not prepared to sideways Brad Crouch either.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: quinny88 on March 31, 2019, 02:01:30 AM
Libba to Rocky is looking like my first correction unless Libba tons up
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: HoleMeal on March 31, 2019, 07:18:03 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 31, 2019, 02:01:30 AM
Libba to Rocky is looking like my first correction unless Libba tons up
Do you have Dusty?

I'm sticking with Libba and bumping Dusty to Sir Tom.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 31, 2019, 10:37:01 AM
Quote from: js19 on March 30, 2019, 10:11:24 PM
Quote from: Locinator on March 30, 2019, 09:52:57 PM
Was feeling tempted by Rocky, but after looking at his score I've reconsidered.

In his two last performances, he has had 44 and 37 touches. Those are clearly out of the box games. I think best case scenario, Rocky regresses to a 28-30 touch average and average 100-105, which I can see the appeal in. But there are too many worst case scenarios for me to take him. Impact of Wines returning, potential forward rotations, injury, tag (we saw tonight it really slowed him).

I think he is worth a punt if you have a midpricer you want to correct this round, say if Libba throws out a stinker, but he is not worth downgrading a premo to.

As someone who started him I'm very happy, but not sure I'd trade to get him in after the fact. Was always thinking I'd have to trade him at some stage, but if he keeps going he'd be a great M8 at the price obviously.

Spent 4 trades on him a couple of years back, so still a bit cut (but not enough to leave him out of my starting team ;D)

Starting to feel the same way too

Congrats to those that started him - hopefully he keeps it up for you, but I think I am going to pass for the same reasons mentioned above - I need to be using my correction trades to fix prem selections, and Rocky has a fair amount of risk compared to some of the other guys I am looking at so I will pass
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: batt on March 31, 2019, 11:19:12 AM
Nothing screams Supercoach more than trading Rocky in twice in the same season.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: dmac07 on March 31, 2019, 12:28:31 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 31, 2019, 10:37:01 AM
Quote from: js19 on March 30, 2019, 10:11:24 PM
Quote from: Locinator on March 30, 2019, 09:52:57 PM
Was feeling tempted by Rocky, but after looking at his score I've reconsidered.

In his two last performances, he has had 44 and 37 touches. Those are clearly out of the box games. I think best case scenario, Rocky regresses to a 28-30 touch average and average 100-105, which I can see the appeal in. But there are too many worst case scenarios for me to take him. Impact of Wines returning, potential forward rotations, injury, tag (we saw tonight it really slowed him).

I think he is worth a punt if you have a midpricer you want to correct this round, say if Libba throws out a stinker, but he is not worth downgrading a premo to.

As someone who started him I'm very happy, but not sure I'd trade to get him in after the fact. Was always thinking I'd have to trade him at some stage, but if he keeps going he'd be a great M8 at the price obviously.

Spent 4 trades on him a couple of years back, so still a bit cut (but not enough to leave him out of my starting team ;D)

Starting to feel the same way too

Congrats to those that started him - hopefully he keeps it up for you, but I think I am going to pass for the same reasons mentioned above - I need to be using my correction trades to fix prem selections, and Rocky has a fair amount of risk compared to some of the other guys I am looking at so I will pass

Agree, would've been nice to start but don't thibk there is enkugh reward to use a trade now, unless you have someone really stinking it up. I have Cripps , Fyfe, Oliver, Neale, M.Crouch, and it would be a waste to go any of them to him.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: _wato on April 03, 2019, 03:42:41 PM
SuperCoach Insider @SC_Insider_
Rockliff has now passed Macrae and Oliver in ownership with 26.2% - most popular trade combinations are Dusty to Rocky and Heeney to Kelly.
7:32 PM - 2 Apr 2019

Lmaoooo I hope he burns so many people
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 03, 2019, 03:56:26 PM
Quote from: _wato on April 03, 2019, 03:42:41 PM
SuperCoach Insider @SC_Insider_
Rockliff has now passed Macrae and Oliver in ownership with 26.2% - most popular trade combinations are Dusty to Rocky and Heeney to Kelly.
7:32 PM - 2 Apr 2019

Lmaoooo I hope he burns so many people

You were quite keen on Rocky earlier in this thread weren't you?

Why the change of tune?
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: _wato on April 03, 2019, 04:24:03 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 03, 2019, 03:56:26 PM
Quote from: _wato on April 03, 2019, 03:42:41 PM
SuperCoach Insider @SC_Insider_
Rockliff has now passed Macrae and Oliver in ownership with 26.2% - most popular trade combinations are Dusty to Rocky and Heeney to Kelly.
7:32 PM - 2 Apr 2019

Lmaoooo I hope he burns so many people

You were quite keen on Rocky earlier in this thread weren't you?

Why the change of tune?

Simply because I don't own him. I knew his scoring potential but didn't think he'd start this hot.

I think he pegs back, but jeesh if he continues 105+ it's a huge loss on guys that don't have him.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Ricochet on April 03, 2019, 06:18:09 PM
Quote from: _wato on April 03, 2019, 03:42:41 PM
SuperCoach Insider @SC_Insider_
Rockliff has now passed Macrae and Oliver in ownership with 26.2% - most popular trade combinations are Dusty to Rocky and Heeney to Kelly.
7:32 PM - 2 Apr 2019
:o
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: crowls on April 03, 2019, 06:30:44 PM
Quote from: _wato on April 03, 2019, 04:24:03 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 03, 2019, 03:56:26 PM
Quote from: _wato on April 03, 2019, 03:42:41 PM
SuperCoach Insider @SC_Insider_
Rockliff has now passed Macrae and Oliver in ownership with 26.2% - most popular trade combinations are Dusty to Rocky and Heeney to Kelly.
7:32 PM - 2 Apr 2019

Lmaoooo I hope he burns so many people

You were quite keen on Rocky earlier in this thread weren't you?

Why the change of tune?

Simply because I don't own him. I knew his scoring potential but didn't think he'd start this hot.

I think he pegs back, but jeesh if he continues 105+ it's a huge loss on guys that don't have him.
oliver, macrea, and way in the distance behind 40 others is rockliff.   105 for a mid keeper is loss. no way,  my structure is normally 1-2 x 120+,  3-4 x 110+ 1-2 around 105+.  Would love have 110+ keepers in my end of year team.  Challenge is . 2018-7 mids avg 110, 2017 - 9, 2016-10.  need to get alot right for it too happen.     
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: upthemaidens on April 03, 2019, 06:47:39 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on April 03, 2019, 06:18:09 PM
Quote from: _wato on April 03, 2019, 03:42:41 PM
SuperCoach Insider @SC_Insider_
Rockliff has now passed Macrae and Oliver in ownership with 26.2% - most popular trade combinations are Dusty to Rocky and Heeney to Kelly.
7:32 PM - 2 Apr 2019
:o
At 400K, he's such a good price and if you have a misfiring premium Mid, he's an obvious choice.
   
My problem is how to get him in.  Cripps/Cogs to Rocky does make some handy cash, but a waste of a trade.
   Upgrading a rookie to him is maybe possible, but all rookies are playing and silly to trade any out.
..Also deep down I know he'll get injured like every other time I've had him.   Easy decision in AF because we can burn the trades.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Mat0369 on April 03, 2019, 07:51:58 PM
And now Lockliff is no longer a POD. Damn
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 03, 2019, 10:02:29 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on April 03, 2019, 07:51:58 PM
And now Lockliff is no longer a POD. Damn

Top POD's generally only last 2 rounds - everyone jumps on by Round 3 before price rises

Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: enzedder on April 04, 2019, 05:31:18 PM
When he gets injured or tagged any losses I may have had by not having him will be negated.
Not bothered.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: PowerBug on April 04, 2019, 06:55:44 PM
Is no one (other than enz above me) worried about how he only scored 26 in the second half, as soon as attention was put on him?
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: LaHug on April 04, 2019, 06:58:42 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on April 04, 2019, 06:55:44 PM
Is no one (other than enz above me) worried about how he only scored 26 in the second half, as soon as attention was put on him?

Certainly why I'm not trading him in now. If I started with him, I'm happy. If I didn't, I'm not getting him now...
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: crowls on April 04, 2019, 07:13:46 PM
rockliiff humming burn baby burn.....    i am the burnman....
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: js19 on April 04, 2019, 07:17:24 PM
Quote from: crowls on April 04, 2019, 07:13:46 PM
rockliiff humming burn baby burn.....    i am the burnman....

The flight of Icarus...
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Ringo on April 04, 2019, 08:27:51 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on April 04, 2019, 06:55:44 PM
Is no one (other than enz above me) worried about how he only scored 26 in the second half, as soon as attention was put on him?
I am and that is why I will be watching closely on Saturday night as I suspect Robbo will be wearing him and if he scores OK then will consider.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Marstar on April 05, 2019, 12:17:24 AM
Would you prefer Rock gets tagged ... or does the tagging this week?
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Mat0369 on April 05, 2019, 12:20:00 AM
Quote from: Ringo on April 04, 2019, 08:27:51 PM
I am and that is why I will be watching closely on Saturday night as I suspect Robbo will be wearing him and if he scores OK then will consider.

And if he comes out this week and smashes it he becomes unobtainable from a mid price fail perspective and you would essentially be sideways trading a prem to him. If you pass this week you may as well forget about him. No waiting and seeing at this point.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: sammy123 on April 05, 2019, 12:47:08 AM
Quote from: PowerBug on April 04, 2019, 06:55:44 PM
Is no one (other than enz above me) worried about how he only scored 26 in the second half, as soon as attention was put on him?

I did notice this and just assumed everyone knew
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: LaHug on April 05, 2019, 08:02:12 AM
Quote from: Marstar on April 05, 2019, 12:17:24 AM
Would you prefer Rock gets tagged ... or does the tagging this week?

Tagged or tagging and I don't see him scoring over 70... I doubt Hinkley uses him to tag with how successful he's been on the ball this year.

Quote from: Mat0369 on April 05, 2019, 12:20:00 AM
Quote from: Ringo on April 04, 2019, 08:27:51 PM
I am and that is why I will be watching closely on Saturday night as I suspect Robbo will be wearing him and if he scores OK then will consider.

And if he comes out this week and smashes it he becomes unobtainable from a mid price fail perspective and you would essentially be sideways trading a prem to him. If you pass this week you may as well forget about him. No waiting and seeing at this point.

Yeah, exactly this. Which is why I'm just accepting that I won't have Rocky this year. I wish I'd started with him and Gaff but I'm not getting either of them now.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: HappyDEZ on April 05, 2019, 10:46:08 AM
Quote from: LaHug on April 05, 2019, 08:02:12 AM
Quote from: Marstar on April 05, 2019, 12:17:24 AM
Would you prefer Rock gets tagged ... or does the tagging this week?

Tagged or tagging and I don't see him scoring over 70... I doubt Hinkley uses him to tag with how successful he's been on the ball this year.

Quote from: Mat0369 on April 05, 2019, 12:20:00 AM
Quote from: Ringo on April 04, 2019, 08:27:51 PM
I am and that is why I will be watching closely on Saturday night as I suspect Robbo will be wearing him and if he scores OK then will consider.

And if he comes out this week and smashes it he becomes unobtainable from a mid price fail perspective and you would essentially be sideways trading a prem to him. If you pass this week you may as well forget about him. No waiting and seeing at this point.

Yeah, exactly this. Which is why I'm just accepting that I won't have Rocky this year. I wish I'd started with him and Gaff but I'm not getting either of them now.
Gaff? Is that supposed to be Sheed?
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: LaHug on April 05, 2019, 11:15:19 AM
Quote from: HappyDEZ on April 05, 2019, 10:46:08 AM
Quote from: LaHug on April 05, 2019, 08:02:12 AM
Quote from: Marstar on April 05, 2019, 12:17:24 AM
Would you prefer Rock gets tagged ... or does the tagging this week?

Tagged or tagging and I don't see him scoring over 70... I doubt Hinkley uses him to tag with how successful he's been on the ball this year.

Quote from: Mat0369 on April 05, 2019, 12:20:00 AM
Quote from: Ringo on April 04, 2019, 08:27:51 PM
I am and that is why I will be watching closely on Saturday night as I suspect Robbo will be wearing him and if he scores OK then will consider.

And if he comes out this week and smashes it he becomes unobtainable from a mid price fail perspective and you would essentially be sideways trading a prem to him. If you pass this week you may as well forget about him. No waiting and seeing at this point.

Yeah, exactly this. Which is why I'm just accepting that I won't have Rocky this year. I wish I'd started with him and Gaff but I'm not getting either of them now.
Gaff? Is that supposed to be Sheed?

Whoops. Yeah, meant Sheed. The ideal lineup would've been two premiums, Brouch, Rocky, Sheed, Libba, Walsh, Constable and then Butters, Scott, Atkins/Gibbons/Miers on the bench. But that would've been seen as ludicrous coming into the season. Think how good our Def and Fwd lines would've been if we'd done that?? I'd have Kelly and Boak, Lloyd and Whitfield (probably Hurn over Whitfield, unfortunately, but you get the point). What could have been...
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: MontyJnr on April 05, 2019, 11:30:56 AM
Quote from: LaHug on April 05, 2019, 08:02:12 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on April 05, 2019, 12:20:00 AM
Quote from: Ringo on April 04, 2019, 08:27:51 PM
I am and that is why I will be watching closely on Saturday night as I suspect Robbo will be wearing him and if he scores OK then will consider.

And if he comes out this week and smashes it he becomes unobtainable from a mid price fail perspective and you would essentially be sideways trading a prem to him. If you pass this week you may as well forget about him. No waiting and seeing at this point.

Yeah, exactly this. Which is why I'm just accepting that I won't have Rocky this year. I wish I'd started with him and Gaff but I'm not getting either of them now.

It depends on your situation IMO.

For instance, my current midfield is Macrae, Cripps, Fyfe, Neale, M Crouch, Libba, Walsh, Butters, Constable, Scott & Gibbons.

I don't have any underperforming premiums and my midpricer in Libba is playing well also.

Therefore, my only trade candidates to Rocky are rookies. Constable, Butters & Scott are cheap and playing well, so they're off the table.

That leaves Gibbons & Walsh. Gibbons is looking like a slow burn and Walsh's 75 average has been slightly underwhelming for his 200k price tag after his strong JLT performances.

I could make the trade from Gibbons or Walsh this week, or I could wait and see how Rocky performs with Wines in the side and a potential Robbo tag. Any potential big price rise from Rocky is nulified somewhat by the 30-50k increase I should get from Gibbons & Walsh anyway, so I don't see much harm in waiting a week.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: HappyDEZ on April 05, 2019, 12:28:36 PM
Quote from: LaHug on April 05, 2019, 11:15:19 AM
Quote from: HappyDEZ on April 05, 2019, 10:46:08 AM
Quote from: LaHug on April 05, 2019, 08:02:12 AM
Quote from: Marstar on April 05, 2019, 12:17:24 AM
Would you prefer Rock gets tagged ... or does the tagging this week?

Tagged or tagging and I don't see him scoring over 70... I doubt Hinkley uses him to tag with how successful he's been on the ball this year.

Quote from: Mat0369 on April 05, 2019, 12:20:00 AM
Quote from: Ringo on April 04, 2019, 08:27:51 PM
I am and that is why I will be watching closely on Saturday night as I suspect Robbo will be wearing him and if he scores OK then will consider.

And if he comes out this week and smashes it he becomes unobtainable from a mid price fail perspective and you would essentially be sideways trading a prem to him. If you pass this week you may as well forget about him. No waiting and seeing at this point.

Yeah, exactly this. Which is why I'm just accepting that I won't have Rocky this year. I wish I'd started with him and Gaff but I'm not getting either of them now.
Gaff? Is that supposed to be Sheed?

Whoops. Yeah, meant Sheed. The ideal lineup would've been two premiums, Brouch, Rocky, Sheed, Libba, Walsh, Constable and then Butters, Scott, Atkins/Gibbons/Miers on the bench. But that would've been seen as ludicrous coming into the season. Think how good our Def and Fwd lines would've been if we'd done that?? I'd have Kelly and Boak, Lloyd and Whitfield (probably Hurn over Whitfield, unfortunately, but you get the point). What could have been...
What could of been indeed. I probably got a few more things wrong than I would like but I did get a few things right. I would probably throw Cousins into that what could've been list even tho I would be losing points with Constable at M9 which is exactly what is happening in my current team anyway. Brouch/Libba/Walsh M6-8 & Constable running amok at M9.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Mat0369 on April 05, 2019, 12:57:25 PM
If I'm Brisbane I'm tagging Wines over any other Port mid anyway. Half the reason Setters would have gone to Rocky is because he couldn't find the pill and he could use it as a learning tool take him to the ball
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: js19 on April 05, 2019, 02:34:31 PM
Quote from: LaHug on April 05, 2019, 11:15:19 AM
Quote from: HappyDEZ on April 05, 2019, 10:46:08 AM
Quote from: LaHug on April 05, 2019, 08:02:12 AM
Quote from: Marstar on April 05, 2019, 12:17:24 AM
Would you prefer Rock gets tagged ... or does the tagging this week?

Tagged or tagging and I don't see him scoring over 70... I doubt Hinkley uses him to tag with how successful he's been on the ball this year.

Quote from: Mat0369 on April 05, 2019, 12:20:00 AM
Quote from: Ringo on April 04, 2019, 08:27:51 PM
I am and that is why I will be watching closely on Saturday night as I suspect Robbo will be wearing him and if he scores OK then will consider.

And if he comes out this week and smashes it he becomes unobtainable from a mid price fail perspective and you would essentially be sideways trading a prem to him. If you pass this week you may as well forget about him. No waiting and seeing at this point.

Yeah, exactly this. Which is why I'm just accepting that I won't have Rocky this year. I wish I'd started with him and Gaff but I'm not getting either of them now.
Gaff? Is that supposed to be Sheed?

Whoops. Yeah, meant Sheed. The ideal lineup would've been two premiums, Brouch, Rocky, Sheed, Libba, Walsh, Constable and then Butters, Scott, Atkins/Gibbons/Miers on the bench. But that would've been seen as ludicrous coming into the season. Think how good our Def and Fwd lines would've been if we'd done that?? I'd have Kelly and Boak, Lloyd and Whitfield (probably Hurn over Whitfield, unfortunately, but you get the point). What could have been...

For what it’s worth, that midfield is pretty much the top ranked team now. Neale, Fyfe, Sloane and all the midpricers, but no Walsh.

Also has BSmith, Williams, Newman down back, and Billings and Greene up forward...
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on April 06, 2019, 10:15:52 PM
Hands up who traded him in this week?
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 06, 2019, 10:20:36 PM
I know he was unlucky to get concussed, but far out this guy is the ultimate burn man

Even before the concussion, he was putting in a stinker

Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on April 06, 2019, 10:21:31 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 06, 2019, 10:20:36 PM
I know he was unlucky to get concussed, but far out this guy is the ultimate burn man

Even before the concussion, he was putting in a stinker

You didn't, did you?
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 06, 2019, 10:23:13 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 06, 2019, 10:21:31 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 06, 2019, 10:20:36 PM
I know he was unlucky to get concussed, but far out this guy is the ultimate burn man

Even before the concussion, he was putting in a stinker

You didn't, did you?

Nah, just can't bring myself to ever pick him again tbh
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on April 06, 2019, 10:24:42 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 06, 2019, 10:23:13 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 06, 2019, 10:21:31 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 06, 2019, 10:20:36 PM
I know he was unlucky to get concussed, but far out this guy is the ultimate burn man

Even before the concussion, he was putting in a stinker

You didn't, did you?

Nah, just can't bring myself to ever pick him again tbh

Sage words.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Mat0369 on April 06, 2019, 10:26:10 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 06, 2019, 10:20:36 PM
I know he was unlucky to get concussed, but far out this guy is the ultimate burn man

Even before the concussion, he was putting in a stinker

Was the second highest possession winner on the ground at HT. I think only Neale had more. Just wasn't stuffing the sheet with marks or tackles like he had the previous 2 weeks. Probably should have had a shot on goal to go with it just before HT but Houston took the advantage for who knows what reason and ran into traffic before spraying it.  He actually just laid a couple tackles and got a touch right before it happened. Really unlucky since he just went hard at the ball and copped one in the head the other way. Could have happened to just about anyone.

I'm hoping those that jumped on knee jerk and jump off. He should still make some decent coin, it's just going to stunt now with the concussion score in the mix. He now has his annual injury out of the way and will hopefully have a big one against a struggling Richmond in Adelaide next week. 
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: fanTCfool on April 06, 2019, 10:44:30 PM
...that's if he plays. Must be a strong chance to miss given the extent of the concussion.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: js19 on April 06, 2019, 10:53:42 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on April 06, 2019, 10:44:30 PM
...that's if he plays. Must be a strong chance to miss given the extent of the concussion.

And if he does, then I might just have to use my one allocated 'Rockytrade' for the year... :-\
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Mat0369 on April 06, 2019, 10:56:53 PM
I think I can hold if he misses. I have Butters and Scott on the bench and I think I can last a week with having to field one or the other. It did look pretty bad so I wouldn't be shocked if he does. Players pull up differently though. I'm trying to remember the one from last week but it escapes my memory. Collins round 1 as well.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: SilverLion on April 06, 2019, 11:07:37 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on March 22, 2019, 05:20:05 PM
Quote from: Wanderer on March 22, 2019, 05:09:39 PM
Quote from: Jalapeno on March 22, 2019, 04:58:58 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on March 22, 2019, 04:46:23 PM
Not who he once was. Don't do it.

I have decided against it. This helped me
Are you sure we can't convince you otherwise? He has been known to pump out monster scores and is very cheap for a ball magnet.  :P
He can, and probably will. But he will also no doubt pump out 40s and 50s and get his shoulders injured and miss 2-3 weeks that turns into half the season.
lol
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: elephants on April 06, 2019, 11:34:23 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on April 06, 2019, 11:07:37 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on March 22, 2019, 05:20:05 PM
Quote from: Wanderer on March 22, 2019, 05:09:39 PM
Quote from: Jalapeno on March 22, 2019, 04:58:58 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on March 22, 2019, 04:46:23 PM
Not who he once was. Don't do it.

I have decided against it. This helped me
Are you sure we can't convince you otherwise? He has been known to pump out monster scores and is very cheap for a ball magnet.  :P
He can, and probably will. But he will also no doubt pump out 40s and 50s and get his shoulders injured and miss 2-3 weeks that turns into half the season.
lol

One concussion from a stray elbow. Settle down champ
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on April 06, 2019, 11:42:46 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 06, 2019, 11:34:23 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on April 06, 2019, 11:07:37 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on March 22, 2019, 05:20:05 PM
Quote from: Wanderer on March 22, 2019, 05:09:39 PM
Quote from: Jalapeno on March 22, 2019, 04:58:58 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on March 22, 2019, 04:46:23 PM
Not who he once was. Don't do it.

I have decided against it. This helped me
Are you sure we can't convince you otherwise? He has been known to pump out monster scores and is very cheap for a ball magnet.  :P
He can, and probably will. But he will also no doubt pump out 40s and 50s and get his shoulders injured and miss 2-3 weeks that turns into half the season.
lol

One concussion from a stray elbow. Settle down champ

Rocky is burman, you know it & I know it, there isn't a coach out there who hasn't been burnt in years gone by.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Mat0369 on April 06, 2019, 11:48:04 PM
And so far, even with then concussion, you better off starting Rocky over Dusty.

Sheed and Crouch are now the two mid price mid winners off a little luck.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: SilverLion on April 06, 2019, 11:56:53 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 06, 2019, 11:34:23 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on April 06, 2019, 11:07:37 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on March 22, 2019, 05:20:05 PM
Quote from: Wanderer on March 22, 2019, 05:09:39 PM
Quote from: Jalapeno on March 22, 2019, 04:58:58 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on March 22, 2019, 04:46:23 PM
Not who he once was. Don't do it.

I have decided against it. This helped me
Are you sure we can't convince you otherwise? He has been known to pump out monster scores and is very cheap for a ball magnet.  :P
He can, and probably will. But he will also no doubt pump out 40s and 50s and get his shoulders injured and miss 2-3 weeks that turns into half the season.
lol

One concussion from a stray elbow. Settle down champ
Just funny how close to being accurate what I said was 3 rounds in is all. Wouldn't surprise me if he played next week.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on April 06, 2019, 11:58:22 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on April 06, 2019, 11:48:04 PM
And so far, even with then concussion, you better off starting Rocky over Dusty.

Sheed and Crouch are now the two mid price mid winners off a little luck.
And Libba
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: js19 on April 07, 2019, 12:02:16 AM
Quote from: GoLions on April 06, 2019, 11:58:22 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on April 06, 2019, 11:48:04 PM
And so far, even with then concussion, you better off starting Rocky over Dusty.

Sheed and Crouch are now the two mid price mid winners off a little luck.
And Libba

Might be the bailout...
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: bkimm32 on April 07, 2019, 05:40:16 AM
This is I didn't pick rocky

Once burnt twice shy
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: upthemaidens on April 07, 2019, 06:00:23 AM
Quote from: upthemaidens on April 03, 2019, 06:47:39 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on April 03, 2019, 06:18:09 PM
Quote from: _wato on April 03, 2019, 03:42:41 PM
SuperCoach Insider @SC_Insider_
Rockliff has now passed Macrae and Oliver in ownership with 26.2% - most popular trade combinations are Dusty to Rocky and Heeney to Kelly.
7:32 PM - 2 Apr 2019
:o
At 400K, he's such a good price and if you have a misfiring premium Mid, he's an obvious choice.
   
My problem is how to get him in.  Cripps/Cogs to Rocky does make some handy cash, but a waste of a trade.
   Upgrading a rookie to him is maybe possible, but all rookies are playing and silly to trade any out.
..Also deep down I know he'll get injured like every other time I've had him.   Easy decision in AF because we can burn the trades.
And now next weeks lotto numbers....
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Wanderer on April 07, 2019, 09:58:20 AM
Burn man could have at least waited a few more weeks before he ignited himself, then it wouldn't feel so bad for those who traded him in.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: crowls on April 07, 2019, 10:45:33 AM
Quote from: crowls on April 04, 2019, 07:13:46 PM
rockliiff humming burn baby burn.....    i am the burnman....
even quicker than I anticipated.     
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on April 07, 2019, 11:18:05 AM
Hinkley said Rocky should be alright for next week
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: coglan13 on April 07, 2019, 12:04:37 PM
Quote from: GoLions on April 07, 2019, 11:18:05 AM
Hinkley said Rocky should be alright for next week
It was a decent move to start Rocky but not so smart to sideways trade him in. Yeh, I think he will be ok for next week.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Wanderer on April 07, 2019, 01:20:08 PM
Quote from: coglan13 on April 07, 2019, 12:04:37 PM
Quote from: GoLions on April 07, 2019, 11:18:05 AM
Hinkley said Rocky should be alright for next week
It was a decent move to start Rocky but not so smart to sideways trade him in. Yeh, I think he will be ok for next week.

I understand those who started with him, but I prefer not to have to keep my fingers crossed every week. Those that traded him in this week have a very high propensity for risk. His second half against the Blues should have been a massive red flag on top of his burn man history.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Mat0369 on April 13, 2019, 07:47:43 PM
140 from the GOAT makes up for Danger captain
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: igotworms on April 14, 2019, 08:55:22 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on April 13, 2019, 07:47:43 PM
140 from the GOAT makes up for Danger captain

To the 4K that dumped him this week...... ;)
Dusty to Rocky after round 1 is a win in my books. Was just unlucky with the concussion. Looks to be back to his best and over his shoulder issues.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Nige on April 14, 2019, 09:57:59 AM
The pig is well and truly back!
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: sammy123 on April 14, 2019, 10:27:53 AM
He is gunna tempt more and more of us but i still dont trust him. Can see heaps of people doing sheed to rocky this week
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: batt on April 14, 2019, 11:48:01 AM
Quote from: sammy123 on April 14, 2019, 10:27:53 AM
He is gunna tempt more and more of us but i still dont trust him. Can see heaps of people doing sheed to rocky this week
And Rocky back to Sheed the week after.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: juzztheball on April 22, 2019, 08:09:29 PM
Is Rocky the real deal this week? Looking to do my first rookie "upgrade" of the year and trade LDU up to someone with 170k in the bank and rocky is the only one who fits the bill. Handy bye, will he keep this up for the rest of the year?  :o :o
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: jvalles69 on April 23, 2019, 09:48:17 AM
Quote from: juzztheball on April 22, 2019, 08:09:29 PM
Is Rocky the real deal this week? Looking to do my first rookie "upgrade" of the year and trade LDU up to someone with 170k in the bank and rocky is the only one who fits the bill. Handy bye, will he keep this up for the rest of the year?  :o :o

I'm thinking the same thing, Cousins needs to go, yuck.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: LaHug on April 23, 2019, 10:55:52 AM
He didn't even crack the ton??
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: jvalles69 on April 23, 2019, 11:10:33 AM
Quote from: LaHug on April 23, 2019, 10:55:52 AM
He didn't even crack the ton??

Against arguably the hardest team to score fantasy points on, 90 is pretty decent.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: AN1611 on April 23, 2019, 11:36:06 AM
Quote from: jvalles69 on April 23, 2019, 11:10:33 AM
Quote from: LaHug on April 23, 2019, 10:55:52 AM
He didn't even crack the ton??

Against arguably the hardest team to score fantasy points on, 90 is pretty decent.

Brought him in last week. Stats were there but just a very scrappy game. Should be a decent pick going forward.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: SilverLion on June 23, 2019, 09:30:15 AM
Quote from: Bully on April 06, 2019, 11:42:46 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 06, 2019, 11:34:23 PM
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Not who he once was. Don't do it.

I have decided against it. This helped me
Are you sure we can't convince you otherwise? He has been known to pump out monster scores and is very cheap for a ball magnet.  :P
He can, and probably will. But he will also no doubt pump out 40s and 50s and get his shoulders injured and miss 2-3 weeks that turns into half the season.
lol

One concussion from a stray elbow. Settle down champ

Rocky is burman, you know it & I know it, there isn't a coach out there who hasn't been burnt in years gone by.
;D
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: North Melbournes Finest on June 23, 2019, 02:57:31 PM
Apparently Rocky is coming back through the reserves.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: TommyC on June 24, 2019, 03:22:08 PM
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on June 23, 2019, 02:57:31 PM
Apparently Rocky is coming back through the reserves.
Yep, thats what Hinkley suggested in his interview.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: js19 on June 29, 2019, 11:45:47 PM
219 SC points for Rocky in the SANFL... Sadly I had to trade him over the byes, and 100% it will come back to hurt me
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Mat0369 on June 29, 2019, 11:48:35 PM
Rockliff collected 57 disposals, 14 clearances, 12 tackles and eight inside 50s.

57 touches!
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: no eye deer on June 29, 2019, 11:54:07 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on June 29, 2019, 11:48:35 PM
Rockliff collected 57 disposals, 14 clearances, 12 tackles and eight inside 50s.

57 touches!

Yep, but TBH, it was against the bottom side, who haven’t won a game. Not knocking it, I’ve held him, at least it shows he’s 100% fit.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: js19 on June 30, 2019, 12:05:39 AM
Quote from: no eye deer on June 29, 2019, 11:54:07 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on June 29, 2019, 11:48:35 PM
Rockliff collected 57 disposals, 14 clearances, 12 tackles and eight inside 50s.

57 touches!

Yep, but TBH, it was against the bottom side, who haven’t won a game. Not knocking it, I’ve held him, at least it shows he’s 100% fit.

Yeah, I needed a score over the byes, and he had to go. Westhoff pretty huge as well with 37 and 3 goals, so changes coming for Port you'd think
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Mat0369 on June 30, 2019, 12:23:32 AM
Would you say they're any worse than the teams Mitchell was destroying in the NEAFL a few years back? Probably not.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: no eye deer on June 30, 2019, 01:01:58 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on June 30, 2019, 12:23:32 AM
Would you say they're any worse than the teams Mitchell was destroying in the NEAFL a few years back? Probably not.

I could never understand what Horse had against Titch. Never any reason to keep dropping him. Apart from their stacked midfield, but still.

Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Carn on July 02, 2019, 02:13:29 PM
Was just about to do Rocky to Sloane.
Hold off?
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: coglan13 on July 03, 2019, 11:43:27 AM
Yep, Rocky should be back this week.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 03, 2019, 12:39:04 PM
everyone saying that

but pretty sure i rememeber years ago when he couldnt get back in when was dominating reserves
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on July 03, 2019, 01:06:56 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 03, 2019, 12:39:04 PM
everyone saying that

but pretty sure i rememeber years ago when he couldnt get back in when was dominating reserves

Big week from a Hinkley perspective, has huge implications for those carrying Hoff, Rocky & Lycett.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: no eye deer on July 03, 2019, 02:41:19 PM
Rocky toaverage 120 from here on out. You read it here first....
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Rusty00 on July 03, 2019, 03:56:25 PM
Quote from: no eye deer on July 03, 2019, 02:41:19 PM
Rocky toaverage 120 from here on out. You read it here first....
In the two games he plays before getting injured again :-X
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Bully on July 03, 2019, 04:47:02 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on July 03, 2019, 03:56:25 PM
Quote from: no eye deer on July 03, 2019, 02:41:19 PM
Rocky toaverage 120 from here on out. You read it here first....
In the two games he plays before getting injured again :-X

Burn Baby Burn
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: no eye deer on July 03, 2019, 06:20:32 PM
Quote from: Bully on July 03, 2019, 04:47:02 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on July 03, 2019, 03:56:25 PM
Quote from: no eye deer on July 03, 2019, 02:41:19 PM
Rocky toaverage 120 from here on out. You read it here first....
In the two games he plays before getting injured again :-X

Burn Baby Burn

We don’t need no water, let the.......
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: upthemaidens on July 03, 2019, 06:21:56 PM
Quote from: Bully on July 03, 2019, 04:47:02 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on July 03, 2019, 03:56:25 PM
Quote from: no eye deer on July 03, 2019, 02:41:19 PM
Rocky toaverage 120 from here on out. You read it here first....
In the two games he plays before getting injured again :-X

Burn Baby Burn
Disco inferno
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: no eye deer on July 03, 2019, 09:55:44 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on July 03, 2019, 06:21:56 PM
Quote from: Bully on July 03, 2019, 04:47:02 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on July 03, 2019, 03:56:25 PM
Quote from: no eye deer on July 03, 2019, 02:41:19 PM
Rocky toaverage 120 from here on out. You read it here first....
In the two games he plays before getting injured again :-X

Burn Baby Burn
Disco inferno

Quote from: no eye deer on July 03, 2019, 06:20:32 PM
Quote from: Bully on July 03, 2019, 04:47:02 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on July 03, 2019, 03:56:25 PM
Quote from: no eye deer on July 03, 2019, 02:41:19 PM
Rocky toaverage 120 from here on out. You read it here first....
In the two games he plays before getting injured again :-X

Burn Baby Burn

We don’t need no water, let the.......

Bloodhound Gang!
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Carn on July 04, 2019, 10:41:29 PM
only avg. 100 before injury, think I am trading anyway. It is him or robbie gray to Sloane.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Belegur on July 05, 2019, 01:14:29 PM
Why did you hold him through the byes if you're trading him this week? Surely have to have a look at him first, Sloane killing it but he also has burn potential. If I trade up on Rocky it's going to be for Kelly or maybe Parker

Like Gray to Sloane If you're team is full and you've got trades to burn
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Carn on July 06, 2019, 02:08:14 PM
Quote from: Belegur on July 05, 2019, 01:14:29 PM
Why did you hold him through the byes if you're trading him this week? Surely have to have a look at him first, Sloane killing it but he also has burn potential. If I trade up on Rocky it's going to be for Kelly or maybe Parker

Like Gray to Sloane If you're team is full and you've got trades to burn

I thought he would come back quicker than he did through the byes and other trades were more pressing to get the 18 required out.

Lloyd Williams Laird Smith Sicily Logue (Burguss Hinge)
Neale Cripps Fyfe Macrae J.Kelly Rocky M.Crouch Dunkley (Bewley Hately Clarke)
Gawn Grundy (Bines)
Danger Kelly Boak Heeney Gray Cameron (Riach Gardner)

Think Gray to Sloane or Rocky to Sloane with a Bewley to M.Murphy for cover across the lines
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: PowerBug on July 06, 2019, 02:29:06 PM
Upgrading that backline should be a bigger priority than Rocky to Sloane. You have a 70avg player in Logue and an 80avg one in Smith.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Carn on July 06, 2019, 02:37:17 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on July 06, 2019, 02:29:06 PM
Upgrading that backline should be a bigger priority than Rocky to Sloane. You have a 70avg player in Logue and an 80avg one in Smith.

You know when you hold a player for too long and you are sick of the sight of them in your team. I am at that point.
I agree about the backline. Could only afford Burguss to Crisp this week and didn’t take it.
Title: Re: Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff
Post by: Belegur on July 07, 2019, 01:26:45 PM
Quote from: Carn on July 06, 2019, 02:08:14 PM
Quote from: Belegur on July 05, 2019, 01:14:29 PM
Why did you hold him through the byes if you're trading him this week? Surely have to have a look at him first, Sloane killing it but he also has burn potential. If I trade up on Rocky it's going to be for Kelly or maybe Parker

Like Gray to Sloane If you're team is full and you've got trades to burn

I thought he would come back quicker than he did through the byes and other trades were more pressing to get the 18 required out.

Lloyd Williams Laird Smith Sicily Logue (Burguss Hinge)
Neale Cripps Fyfe Macrae J.Kelly Rocky M.Crouch Dunkley (Bewley Hately Clarke)
Gawn Grundy (Bines)
Danger Kelly Boak Heeney Gray Cameron (Riach Gardner)

Think Gray to Sloane or Rocky to Sloane with a Bewley to M.Murphy for cover across the lines

I did the same, but now that we're at this point I want have to give him a chance, capable of turning it on in the back half, I've got B crouch aswell so waiting to see what they both do before pulling the trigger. Similar team to yours. Looking at 2-3 backline upgrades 1-2 mid upgrades and 4 up the sleave for injuries/luxury

Llyod Williams houli Salem Smith Logue
McRae Cripps Neale Fyfe Crouch Crouch Rockliff Oliver
Grundy Gawn
Dangerfield Dunkley Boak Marshall Kelly Heeney
Bench: all sub 300k rookies
8 trades 600k