Poll
Question:
Who will win?
Option 1: Hawks
votes: 6
Option 2: Giants
votes: 2
Option 3: Draw
votes: 1
Option 4: GWS to lose by 100+ again
votes: 18
Giants been in horrible form past 2 rounds and against a depleted Hawks side, should be able to get under the 100 point loss mark.
With Hawks missing their Tall backs to injuries, GWS could try to stretch them out with Cameron, Patton, Giles, Tomlinson, etc if they are to try and snatch away that win.
I really need Roughy to kick a bag this weekend.
GWS to lose by 100+ again :o
Oh yeah, my tip: Hawks by 87.
Absolute rout
Hawks by 112
Quote from: Hellopplz on May 27, 2014, 10:12:39 PM
Giants been in horrible form past 2 rounds and against a depleted Hawks side, should be able to get under the 100 point loss mark.
With Hawks missing their Tall backs to injuries, GWS could try to stretch them out with Cameron, Patton, Giles, Tomlinson, etc if they are to try and snatch away that win.
we're also missing our tall backs, so players like roughy, gunston are going to stretch us there.
If we keep it under a 10 goal loss, I'd count that as a win for us atm.
Will be lucky to keep this under a 20 goal loss tbh
Hawks by 105. Ward needs a superocach tonne tho. Expecting 14 hawks to get sc 100s #BigCall
This won't be pretty... Hawks with ease.
Round 7 we saw Hawks win by 145pts, four players kick 4 goals, twelve players score DT tonnes and nine players get 25+ possies.
Think we'll see something similar...
Will be interesting to see if the Hawks will rest anyone. It won't matter they'll still win by 100+
The Sportsbet line betting at the moment for Hawthorn is -72.5 at $1.92
Hawthorn, even with all their injuries, should cover the line comfortably.
I need more Hawk players in fantasy :P
I should name Burgoyne Captain in BXV over Rocky
Roughy and Gunston to kick 11 goals each!
Hawthorn FC @HawthornFC 19s
Ben Stratton (adductor) has withdrawn from tomorrow's team. He's replaced by Angus Litherland. Alex Woodward has been added to emergencies.
Damn, was hoping Langford would get a gig. Looks like I'll be munching on a donut this week. :(
Quote from: Bully on May 31, 2014, 12:33:55 PM
Damn, was hoping Langford would get a gig. Looks like I'll be munching on a donut this week. :(
Quote from: Vinny on May 31, 2014, 01:20:44 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 31, 2014, 01:12:16 PM
Quote from: Bully on May 31, 2014, 12:33:55 PM
Damn, was hoping Langford would get a gig. Looks like I'll be munching on a donut this week. :(
Fear not people! Langers trained strongly today and Lewis didn't train at all.
He's no shoe-in but I'm optimistic.
Love this poll haha
Quote from: batt on May 31, 2014, 10:41:34 PM
Fear not people! Langers trained strongly today and Lewis didn't train at all.
He's no shoe-in but I'm optimistic.
Don't tease me Batt!
Would be really good to avoid the donut. Come on Langers!
Quote from: batt on May 31, 2014, 10:41:34 PM
Quote from: Vinny on May 31, 2014, 01:20:44 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 31, 2014, 01:12:16 PM
Quote from: Bully on May 31, 2014, 12:33:55 PM
Damn, was hoping Langford would get a gig. Looks like I'll be munching on a donut this week. :(
Fear not people! Langers trained strongly today and Lewis didn't train at all.
He's no shoe-in but I'm optimistic.
That's good news.
Calling the draw now ;)
Voted for GWS in the poll, just because really.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 31, 2014, 10:43:45 PM
Don't tease me Batt!
QuoteBolton hopes ruckman Ben McEvoy (corked hamstring) will be available for selection next week and said young tagger Will Langford had to "work on a couple of things" after being dropped.
What better way to "work on a couple of things" than to play a team who plays literally no defense.
That quote was meant to be an anti-tease but now I'm second guessing myself,
Roughie to kick 12
Quote from: batt on May 31, 2014, 10:41:34 PM
Quote from: Vinny on May 31, 2014, 01:20:44 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 31, 2014, 01:12:16 PM
Quote from: Bully on May 31, 2014, 12:33:55 PM
Damn, was hoping Langford would get a gig. Looks like I'll be munching on a donut this week. :(
Fear not people! Langers trained strongly today and Lewis didn't train at all.
He's no shoe-in but I'm optimistic.
please no, I traded him out
Just quietly I wouldn't mind if Suckling started sub in this game :-X
Quote from: Ricochet on June 01, 2014, 09:33:44 AM
Quote from: batt on May 31, 2014, 10:41:34 PM
Quote from: Vinny on May 31, 2014, 01:20:44 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 31, 2014, 01:12:16 PM
Quote from: Bully on May 31, 2014, 12:33:55 PM
Damn, was hoping Langford would get a gig. Looks like I'll be munching on a donut this week. :(
Fear not people! Langers trained strongly today and Lewis didn't train at all.
He's no shoe-in but I'm optimistic.
please no, I traded him out
Yeah ditched him in pretty much everything :-\
Quote from: Rusty00 on June 01, 2014, 09:46:50 AM
Just quietly I wouldn't mind if Suckling started sub in this game :-X
YES.
Quote from: Rusty00 on June 01, 2014, 09:46:50 AM
Just quietly I wouldn't mind if Suckling started sub in this game :-X
+100000 :P
Quote from: Ricochet on June 01, 2014, 11:19:53 AM
Quote from: Rusty00 on June 01, 2014, 09:46:50 AM
Just quietly I wouldn't mind if Suckling started sub in this game :-X
+100000 :P
I wouldnt mind a 120+ from Suckling today either
Glad my OP doesn't have Roughy. 8) I'm hoping it will be Gunston to Kick 11
I'm with Tabs
Quote from: Jesty on June 01, 2014, 11:35:40 AM
Glad my OP doesn't have Roughy. 8) I'm hoping it will be Gunston to Kick 11
One of my opponents has the Rough-head and it's close at the moment :-[
Could definitely be the difference :'(
Quote from: Rusty00 on June 01, 2014, 09:46:50 AM
Just quietly I wouldn't mind if Suckling started sub in this game :-X
flower off
I don't know if I should risk putting the C on Roughy over Gaz.
Quote from: Vinny on June 01, 2014, 12:02:08 PM
I don't know if I should risk putting the C on Roughy over Gaz.
massive call!! I would risk it. Roughie owes his team after missing last week through suspension
Quote from: Vinny on June 01, 2014, 12:02:08 PM
I don't know if I should risk putting the C on Roughy over Gaz.
Reckon both will go big, but surely there's more risk with Roughy?!? :o
Would really like Burgoyne gunston and suckling to be late outs
Would like my man Luke Breust to have a ripper game. 8)
Yeah flower it, going Roughy.
But I've said those words like 40 times this week and given the C back to GAJ
Quote from: Vinny on June 01, 2014, 12:12:41 PM
Yeah flower it, going Roughy.
But I've said those words like 40 times this week and given the C back to GAJ
Gutsy call but definitely worth the risk IMO
Well its been fey forwards kicking the bags against GWS. Although Roughy can go big its been a long time since he got a Capts score.
My opponent has Breust, so I expect him to go crazy today :'(
Wheres the option of Hawthorn loosing by 100+ points
Cameron to kick 12.0 and guide Giants to a 20 goal victory.
Hawthorn FC @HawthornFC 32s
FINAL TEAM: @JordanLewisO3 is OUT, he's been replaced by Will Langford. Billy Hartung is today's sub #AFLHawksGiants #gohawks
YES YES YES YES YES!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Christ how many more players can Hawthorn lose lol.
It won't really matter, but a little concerning
Coaches playing bloody games again.
Swanny out meant putting Hartung on field too :(
Quote from: Mr.Craig on June 01, 2014, 03:27:07 PM
Hawthorn FC @HawthornFC 32s
FINAL TEAM: @JordanLewisO3 is OUT, he's been replaced by Will Langford. Billy Hartung is today's sub #AFLHawksGiants #gohawks
Damn Hartung the sub, oh well.
GWS GIANTS @GWS_Giants 26s
No late changes for the GIANTS with @AddisonDylan starting as the sub. #standtall #aflhawksgiants
Damn. Hartung sub and Langford in.
YEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSS! NO DONUT :D
Quote from: blue on June 01, 2014, 12:10:58 PM
Would really like Burgoyne gunston and suckling to be late outs
No
Palmer tagging Suckling early :)
Has anyone gone to Burgoyne man?
Quote from: Vinny on June 01, 2014, 05:00:54 PM
Has anyone gone to Burgoyne man?
Looks like Townsend may be on him :-\ Hard to tell for sure at the moment.
Flower me made Burgoyne C in AF ruining a good week
Starting to wish Suckling had been out so I could take Langford's score. :-\
Bolton's job may be on the line........ :P
Bolton with 47 missed calls from Clarko haha
Quote from: elephants on June 01, 2014, 05:33:37 PM
Bolton with 47 missed calls from Clarko haha
Clarko will be sending the nursing staff to the ground with messages.
Quote from: elephants on June 01, 2014, 05:33:37 PM
Bolton with 47 missed calls from Clarko haha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg-TqEFYcfM
Brett Ratten's waiting.
Haha gold ;D
1/4 time scores?
SC score please :)
10 MINUTES INTO THE SECOND QUARTER - Apologies for the delay!
Hawthorn 4.3 (27)
GWS Giants 4.3 (27)
HAWTHORN:
29 Will Langford 49
22 Luke Breust 48
14 Grant Birchall 40
26 Liam Shiels 40
16 Isaac Smith 37
20 David Hale 31
12 Brad Sewell 28
32 Jonathan Simpkin 27
8 Taylor Duryea 26
2 Jarryd Roughead 25
38 Mitch Hallahan 24
19 Jack Gunston 23
31 Angus Litherland 21
18 Jonathon Ceglar 20
15 Luke Hodge 17
13 Kyle Cheney 16
28 Paul Puopolo 16
25 Ryan Schoenmakers 16
9 Shaun Burgoyne 16
4 Matthew Suckling 13
10 Bradley Hill 5
40 Billy Hartung 0 (SUB)
GWS GIANTS:
10 Devon Smith 44
9 Tom Scully 41
7 Rhys Palmer 38
33 Will Hoskin-Elliott 33
17 Adam Treloar 32
23 Heath Shaw 31
8 Callan Ward 30
6 Lachlan Whitfield 30
31 Jacob Townsend 29
41 Shane Mumford 28
11 Jed Lamb 24
48 Sam Frost 23
18 Jeremy Cameron 21
40 Adam Kennedy 20
20 Adam Tomlinson 20
39 Tim Mohr 20
12 Jonathon Patton 19
34 Kristian Jaksch 16
35 Aidan Corr 14
2 Curtly Hampton 14
5 Dylan Shiel 14
46 Dylan Addison 0 (SUB)
1/2 Time
16 Isaac Smith 60
14 Grant Birchall 57
29 Will Langford 57
22 Luke Breust 52
32 Jonathan Simpkin 49
13 Kyle Cheney 47
31 Angus Litherland 44
12 Brad Sewell 43
2 Jarryd Roughead 43
26 Liam Shiels 43
19 Jack Gunston 40
15 Luke Hodge 39
38 Mitch Hallahan 39
4 Matthew Suckling 34
20 David Hale 32
8 Taylor Duryea 26
10 Bradley Hill 25
28 Paul Puopolo 23
9 Shaun Burgoyne 23
18 Jonathon Ceglar 22
25 Ryan Schoenmakers 21
40 Billy Hartung 0
10 Devon Smith 68
8 Callan Ward 62
33 Will Hoskin-Elliott 55
9 Tom Scully 52
7 Rhys Palmer 49
6 Lachlan Whitfield 46
41 Shane Mumford 43
5 Dylan Shiel 40
34 Kristian Jaksch 40
17 Adam Treloar 37
23 Heath Shaw 37
11 Jed Lamb 36
31 Jacob Townsend 33
20 Adam Tomlinson 28
48 Sam Frost 27
40 Adam Kennedy 26
39 Tim Mohr 26
2 Curtly Hampton 24
12 Jonathon Patton 22
18 Jeremy Cameron 18
35 Aidan Corr 13
46 Dylan Addison 0
Breust and Mummy doing nicely. Wouldn't mind Poppy lifting.
Burgoyne 23 at HT :o
Burgoyne is ruining my great week. :(
Quote from: JROO8 on June 01, 2014, 06:09:56 PM
Burgoyne 23 at HT :o
Dammit. This game is ruining my very good round. Burgs, Hallahan and Hartung due to Swan being out.
Haven't watched any of the 1st half, was watching Bulldogs v Dockers, can anyone enlighten me as to how the game has gone so far? Why are GWS only 7 points behind.
Get off Burgoyne GWS please. :'(
Quote from: AaronKirk on June 01, 2014, 06:13:56 PM
Haven't watched any of the 1st half, was watching Bulldogs v Dockers, can anyone enlighten me as to how the game has gone so far? Why are GWS only 7 points behind.
I believe they 7 points behind because Hawthorn have kicked 7 goals and 5 behinds whilst Giants have kicked 6 goals and 4 behinds.
Quote from: Noz on June 01, 2014, 06:16:07 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on June 01, 2014, 06:13:56 PM
Haven't watched any of the 1st half, was watching Bulldogs v Dockers, can anyone enlighten me as to how the game has gone so far? Why are GWS only 7 points behind.
I believe they 7 points behind because Hawthorn have kicked 7 goals and 5 behinds whilst Giants have kicked 6 goals and 4 behinds.
I obviously know that bit mate ::)
LOL Noz
AK: GWS got out of the blocks quick and opened up a few goal lead, but the Hawks clawed back
Pretty uninspiring game thus far, but the Hawks have got a very young side out there which I guess has kept GWS in the game up until now
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 01, 2014, 06:23:52 PM
LOL Noz
AK: GWS got out of the blocks quick and opened up a few goal lead, but the Hawks clawed back
Pretty uninspiring game thus far, but the Hawks have got a very young side out there which I guess has kept GWS in the game up until now
Thanks RD.
Pouring rain at the 'G.
Draw anyone? :D
COMMENTARY
Q3 14:00
SUB HAWKS
Hawthorn have activated their sub, Hale has been replaced by Hunter.
U wut AFL
there's nothing I love more than getting a "premo" in only for him to be outscored by the guy who I got rid of to get the "premo". especially when the guy actually got dropped, only for him to get the latest of call-ups. I love it more than a nice set of tits. nothing better
Go Giants ;D
GWS in front :D
Go GWS
Good teams beat Giants
Poor teams beat Giants
Hawthorn are going to fall just like Sydney did.
29 Will Langford 80
16 Isaac Smith 76
12 Brad Sewell 74
14 Grant Birchall 72
13 Kyle Cheney 72
22 Luke Breust 72
32 Jonathan Simpkin 70
31 Angus Litherland 67
4 Matthew Suckling 62
19 Jack Gunston 60
26 Liam Shiels 54
38 Mitch Hallahan 51
28 Paul Puopolo 51
9 Shaun Burgoyne 51
15 Luke Hodge 47
2 Jarryd Roughead 46
10 Bradley Hill 40
18 Jonathon Ceglar 37
20 David Hale 35
25 Ryan Schoenmakers 28
8 Taylor Duryea 27
40 Billy Hartung 12
10 Devon Smith 117
8 Callan Ward 100
41 Shane Mumford 87
6 Lachlan Whitfield 81
7 Rhys Palmer 81
33 Will Hoskin-Elliott 73
9 Tom Scully 69
17 Adam Treloar 66
23 Heath Shaw 66
5 Dylan Shiel 65
31 Jacob Townsend 46
40 Adam Kennedy 44
2 Curtly Hampton 44
34 Kristian Jaksch 44
18 Jeremy Cameron 43
48 Sam Frost 43
39 Tim Mohr 42
11 Jed Lamb 37
12 Jonathon Patton 37
20 Adam Tomlinson 35
35 Aidan Corr 17
46 Dylan Addison 9
What was that roughy goal worth anybody?
Quote from: cartz411 on June 01, 2014, 07:12:03 PM
What was that roughy goal worth anybody?
13 points
And he just lost 8 of those points
Lol probs lost that on the 50m penalty he just gave
C'mon Burgoyne and Roughy, 75 each please!!
Langford 95 would be nice.
Roughy 51, Burgoyne 59, Langford 87 current scores
Thanks mate. :)
How does Roughy on go up five after a goal? Haha.
C'mon boys.
Litherland would be stiff to get dropped next week. Has been very good
Will Hawthorn have enough available players to field a team next week
Hartung 12 touches. :o
31 Angus Litherland 114
16 Isaac Smith 113
13 Kyle Cheney 99
29 Will Langford 97
14 Grant Birchall 96
19 Jack Gunston 89
26 Liam Shiels 88
4 Matthew Suckling 86
22 Luke Breust 81
12 Brad Sewell 80
25 Ryan Schoenmakers 74
32 Jonathan Simpkin 73
9 Shaun Burgoyne 72
10 Bradley Hill 64
38 Mitch Hallahan 64
18 Jonathon Ceglar 60
15 Luke Hodge 60
28 Paul Puopolo 60
2 Jarryd Roughead 57
40 Billy Hartung 48
8 Taylor Duryea 48
20 David Hale 33
GWS
10 Devon Smith 141
8 Callan Ward 129
17 Adam Treloar 124
41 Shane Mumford 110
6 Lachlan Whitfield 101
9 Tom Scully 96
23 Heath Shaw 90
33 Will Hoskin-Elliott 78
7 Rhys Palmer 77
5 Dylan Shiel 71
40 Adam Kennedy 66
12 Jonathon Patton 62
48 Sam Frost 62
39 Tim Mohr 56
34 Kristian Jaksch 54
31 Jacob Townsend 52
11 Jed Lamb 50
2 Curtly Hampton 47
20 Adam Tomlinson 44
18 Jeremy Cameron 39
35 Aidan Corr 17
46 Dylan Addison 16
kinda spewin I downgraded Langford to Burgoyne
What kind of team can't be Hawthorn? Pathetic
Roughead is so useless.
I had no chance all round to win my league match, but then Langford gets the late call in so I avoid the donut and he churns out his biggest score of the year to get me the win!!
Quote from: Noz on June 01, 2014, 07:42:39 PM
What kind of team can't be Hawthorn? Pathetic
Sorry mate theres only one Hawthorn ;)
I said keeping it under 10 goals would be a win, so I'm pretty happy personally- having one of our starting talls back in mohr made a monstrous difference.
Luckily i kept Langford. Would have thought that the Hawks would have done this a lot easier
Quote from: Ziplock on June 01, 2014, 09:21:25 PM
I said keeping it under 10 goals would be a win, so I'm pretty happy personally- having one of our starting talls back in mohr made a monstrous difference.
Yeh have to agree on the key back issue. Mohr was a massive inclusion. Key defenders coming back in for GWS are as important as key fwds like Dawes coming back in for Melbourne
flowering pissed at the Hawks. Drop Langford, make me change all my trade plans, bring Langford in and have him carve up.
Quote from: elephants on June 02, 2014, 09:54:54 PM
flowering pissed at the Hawks. Drop Langford, make me change all my trade plans, bring Langford in and have him carve up.
Pfft, I traded Langford out over Sam Gray for the extra cash leaving me with no mid cover (brought in Shenton who was covering Swan already). Nek minute Boyd out and a donut - 90 points down the drain.
Quote from: Ricochet on June 01, 2014, 09:25:36 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on June 01, 2014, 09:21:25 PM
I said keeping it under 10 goals would be a win, so I'm pretty happy personally- having one of our starting talls back in mohr made a monstrous difference.
Yeh have to agree on the key back issue. Mohr was a massive inclusion. Key defenders coming back in for GWS are as important as key fwds like Dawes coming back in for Melbourne
Haha, Gary Lyon on all access just blasted the giants for such poor performances in the past 2 weeks, citing that clearly it was a lack of effort that caused the losses.
When really, it helps when you have a half decent tall which means you don't get individual players kicking 11 goals on your team.
Quote from: Ziplock on June 02, 2014, 10:16:45 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 01, 2014, 09:25:36 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on June 01, 2014, 09:21:25 PM
I said keeping it under 10 goals would be a win, so I'm pretty happy personally- having one of our starting talls back in mohr made a monstrous difference.
Yeh have to agree on the key back issue. Mohr was a massive inclusion. Key defenders coming back in for GWS are as important as key fwds like Dawes coming back in for Melbourne
Haha, Gary Lyon on all access just blasted the giants for such poor performances in the past 2 weeks, citing that clearly it was a lack of effort that caused the losses.
When really, it helps when you have a half decent tall which means you don't get individual players kicking 11 goals on your team.
Adding one key defender is not worth 100 points. It certainly helped the Giants with Mohr back but their effort against the Eagles and Tigers was nowhere near the level it was against the Hawks.
Quote from: Rusty00 on June 02, 2014, 10:32:47 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on June 02, 2014, 10:16:45 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 01, 2014, 09:25:36 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on June 01, 2014, 09:21:25 PM
I said keeping it under 10 goals would be a win, so I'm pretty happy personally- having one of our starting talls back in mohr made a monstrous difference.
Yeh have to agree on the key back issue. Mohr was a massive inclusion. Key defenders coming back in for GWS are as important as key fwds like Dawes coming back in for Melbourne
Haha, Gary Lyon on all access just blasted the giants for such poor performances in the past 2 weeks, citing that clearly it was a lack of effort that caused the losses.
When really, it helps when you have a half decent tall which means you don't get individual players kicking 11 goals on your team.
Adding one key defender is not worth 100 points. It certainly helped the Giants with Mohr back but their effort against the Eagles and Tigers was nowhere near the level it was against the Hawks.
Let's hope their effort dips again next week ;)
Quote from: Rusty00 on June 02, 2014, 10:32:47 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on June 02, 2014, 10:16:45 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 01, 2014, 09:25:36 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on June 01, 2014, 09:21:25 PM
I said keeping it under 10 goals would be a win, so I'm pretty happy personally- having one of our starting talls back in mohr made a monstrous difference.
Yeh have to agree on the key back issue. Mohr was a massive inclusion. Key defenders coming back in for GWS are as important as key fwds like Dawes coming back in for Melbourne
Haha, Gary Lyon on all access just blasted the giants for such poor performances in the past 2 weeks, citing that clearly it was a lack of effort that caused the losses.
When really, it helps when you have a half decent tall which means you don't get individual players kicking 11 goals on your team.
Adding one key defender is not worth 100 points. It certainly helped the Giants with Mohr back but their effort against the Eagles and Tigers was nowhere near the level it was against the Hawks.
Well when JRoo kicks 68 points and JJK kicks 66 it could have certainly been a lot closer :P
Also means their 2nd defender plays on the 2nd fwd and so on
Not sure they would have won but it certainly would have been closer that 100pts
Lyon was right though, Giants improved enormously on many other statistics which would have had very little correlation with getting Defenders back.
Stats like tackles etc. were increasing by close to 50%, which indicates that Giants effort wasn't there before
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on June 03, 2014, 12:28:24 AM
Lyon was right though, Giants improved enormously on many other statistics which would have had very little correlation with getting Defenders back.
Stats like tackles etc. were increasing by close to 50%, which indicates that Giants effort wasn't there before
Our tackles and contested possession count were better, which were the points highlighted- we had a 1+ (just) CP ratio with the hawks, and 1.256 tackle ratio. Compared to the tigers where we had a 0.73 CP ratio although we had a 1.35 tackle ratio, and the eagles we had a 0.77 CP and 0.76 tackle ratio (keeping in mind the eagles game was a low tackle game, and we were missing our no.1 tackler in treloar).
So our tackling was ok against the tigers, but our CP were worse in both games. That being said, having our number ruck at match fitness would improve our CP count, as would having a decent key back, who can go with the key forward and either take possession, or bring the ball to ground and create a contest like that.
I think any more variation could be ascribed to just fluctuation in form, rather than necessarily a lack of effort.
Its simple, sometime young sides turn up to play, sometimes they dont.