http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/hawthorn-draftee-dayle-garlett-quits-afl-football-sighting-routine-and-homesickness-as-his-reasons/story-e6frf7jo-1226864704828
TROUBLED draftee Dayle Garlett has quit AFL football, telling Hawthorn the demands of the game and homesickness made it impossible for him to continue
soft....
The kid has a lot of talent. Couldn't cope in Melbourne.
he's gonna be spewin in 10 years time
West Coast or Freo will pick him up
Unfortunately you have to move a lot of dirt to get the gold.
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 25, 2014, 11:32:24 PM
soft....
Mate just don't. Clearly he is a troubled person who has some issues, but don't just go calling someone soft. Would you call someone with depression soft if they quit their job? Takes a brave man to speak up and say they are having troubles. The stigma that people with mental health issues are soft needs to be cut out by now. We are living in the 21st century now, not the 1930's. So seriously grow up before you start calling someone soft because they are having problems.
On the plus side, we've still got this bloke.
(http://i57.tinypic.com/33pfywp.jpg)
Quote from: Honey Badger on March 26, 2014, 12:04:13 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 25, 2014, 11:32:24 PM
soft....
Mate just don't. Clearly he is a troubled person who has some issues, but don't just go calling someone soft. Would you call someone with depression soft if they quit their job? Takes a brave man to speak up and say they are having troubles. The stigma that people with mental health issues are soft needs to be cut out by now. We are living in the 21st century now, not the 1930's. So seriously grow up before you start calling someone soft because they are having problems.
i'm allowed to have my opinion he was struggling to turn up to training every day what did he think it was going to be easy?
Mentally he can't handle it KB and doesn't have the family support many of us take for granted. I agree its a waste of such a raw talent and he has made some terrible choices in the past, but people don't know the whole story when it comes to Dayle.
Quote from: Honey Badger on March 26, 2014, 12:04:13 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 25, 2014, 11:32:24 PM
soft....
Mate just don't. Clearly he is a troubled person who has some issues, but don't just go calling someone soft. Would you call someone with depression soft if they quit their job? Takes a brave man to speak up and say they are having troubles. The stigma that people with mental health issues are soft needs to be cut out by now. We are living in the 21st century now, not the 1930's. So seriously grow up before you start calling someone soft because they are having problems.
It makes me angry that he's packed his bags because he's got the talent and now hes just thrown the biggest opportunity of his life away and apossibly destroyed somebody elses as hes stolen their spot in the draft
I agree with KB... soft
Could of got a few hundred grand a year to kick and chase a ball around.
Oh the regrets he will have when he turns 30...
Rookies don't get "a few hundred grand" to just kick a football around
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on March 26, 2014, 08:31:45 AM
Rookies don't get "a few hundred grand" to just kick a football around
Because he would be a rookie for his whole career?
Disappointing news, Garlett is very talented and it's a shame that talent will go to waste.
Hopefully he goes back home and sorts out his life. I doubt Freo or West Coast will take a punt on him.
I don't know him, or the situation.
Anyone is free to do what they want or don't want, but I hope he has something to fall back on, otherwise it might be the easy way out.
Repeating again, don't know his situation.
Quote from: JROO8 on March 26, 2014, 09:13:28 AM
Disappointing news, Garlett is very talented and it's a shame that talent will go to waste.
Hopefully he goes back home and sorts out his life. I doubt Freo or West Coast will take a punt on him.
Agree, he is done I think. Hawks took a risk when every club passed last year, and unfortunately he has proven them right.
Not everyone is driven by money
He clearly has issues he needs to deal with before he can be in a position to pursue a career as an AFL footballer, but lets not forget how young this kid is too
For those who say his soft or stupid for giving up an opportunity like this, I am not having a go at you at all, but I would be certain your young in age. The older you get, the more you grow and like I said in other thread about him in the SC section, just because it makes sense that it would be a dream for any of us to play, doesn't mean that applies to everyone
Having the talent for something is one thing, but when that talent and passion turns into a job, a hard grind that demands you work extremely hard all day every day, it can get the better of a person, and if they have external issues to deal with on top of that then it's only a matter of time before it falls apart
I hope he gets the support he needs back home, and who knows, in a year or two when he is older, he might be in a much better position to do this, although it might be too late by then, and if it is, so be it
It's definitely sad as the kid certainly has talent. His recruitment came with a risk that all club's were aware of hence why he was passed on the first time, the Hawks then took that risk and it hasn't worked out for either party.
His AFL career is more than likely over. Oh well, what can ya do?
Hopefully he gets things sorted and can get on with his life.
This would mean he'd be LTI'd a bit like Duigan for Carlton and Clark for the Dees meaning they could elevate somebody, right?
^ RaisyDaisy makes some very good points.
Personally, I'd hate to be an AFL footballer - the pressure every week to perform or be dropped, millions of people watching you... and if you're really lucky your career ends at 30.
So if someone gave me the choice of being an AFL footballer, and what I have now, I'd probably choose right now, despite the significant pay cut (though current is more than AFL rookie, but less than an AFL rookie when I first started).
With Australian Football being a National competition we tend to underestimate the pressure put on young footballers when they leave their friends, family and support groups. Homesickness is a real factor and clubs do their best to deal with it but in some cases it gets too much especially if there are other outside influences involved. Also bear in mind that in cases where they are not in the top ecelon of draft picks they may be consigned to playing in the twos for the best part of their initial contract and some may not cope with that either.
It is also a culture shock as well having to adapt their routines in a different city to what they are used to. If you call Wanganeen soft maybe you should call all the Brisbane go home boys soft as well.
I wish Garlett all the best in sorting out his issues and trust he may come back and possibly get taken as a mature aged rookie once this has been done. As we know there a re quite a few successful mature aged rookies making a success.
There is also a post in the Players and Trade Thread
Link here http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,92408.0.html
Here is a quote from Slaver 11 in that thread that is worth repeating here:
From Salver11 in response to another post condeming him
"I thought like you once but with age comes wisdom and from your quote above and what has happened here you have missed the point and it's easy to do. It's not everyone's dream to play in the AFL, this kid doesn't know what his dream is, I suspect that he may not have a dream at all. I remember when Ash Sampi walked out on the eagles to go north and hunt turtle. I also remember 2 years later when he turned up the size of a blimp and went on the two meals of turtle a day diet and declared he wanted to play footy again. No shock to the real world he didn't get picked up, it was probably a shock to him though! I've actually read a little bit about Ash working in the mines and making something of his life which is fantastic but I bet everyday he regrets walking away from the game and the opportunity it was but for whatever reason it was at the time he just couldn't do it.
At 19/20 not everyone can see the opportunity that is in front of them, especially when they're coming from a different background and I'm pretty sure he doesn't even really get what it means, he'd know he's throwing something away because everybody will be telling him he is but what that is he can't see. I think as people who don't know his situation we need to realise that we just don't understand and really just hope the best for the kid and that if it isn't with football he can make something of his life.
I remember last year I came on here and bagged 2 players who passed up contracts with the clubs they were with to try for a longer contract and a contract interstate and both ended up out of the system, I was saying how they were throwing so much away. Whilst I still see it as a massive opportunity lost if you aren't happy and it's not what you want, in the world we live you have he chance to try for something else. Hopefully he has something else that he's good at."
Think this really says it all
Quote from: Ringo on March 26, 2014, 10:14:41 AM
With Australian Football being a National competition we tend to underestimate the pressure put on young footballers when they leave their friends, family and support groups. Homesickness is a real factor and clubs do their best to deal with it but in some cases it gets too much especially if there are other outside influences involved. Also bear in mind that in cases where they are not in the top ecelon of draft picks they may be consigned to playing in the twos for the best part of their initial contract and some may not cope with that either.
It is also a culture shock as well having to adapt their routines in a different city to what they are used to. If you call Wanganeen soft maybe you should call all the Brisbane go home boys soft as well.
I wish Wanganeen all the best in sorting out his issues and trust he may come back and possibly get taken as a mature aged rookie once this has been done. As we know there a re quite a few succesful mature aged rookies making a success.
Garlett mate, not Wanganeen.
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 26, 2014, 12:40:21 AM
Quote from: Honey Badger on March 26, 2014, 12:04:13 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 25, 2014, 11:32:24 PM
soft....
Mate just don't. Clearly he is a troubled person who has some issues, but don't just go calling someone soft. Would you call someone with depression soft if they quit their job? Takes a brave man to speak up and say they are having troubles. The stigma that people with mental health issues are soft needs to be cut out by now. We are living in the 21st century now, not the 1930's. So seriously grow up before you start calling someone soft because they are having problems.
i'm allowed to have my opinion he was struggling to turn up to training every day what did he think it was going to be easy?
Agree with you KB just soft as flower and didnt wanna do the hard work!
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 26, 2014, 09:20:31 AM
Not everyone is driven by money
He clearly has issues he needs to deal with before he can be in a position to pursue a career as an AFL footballer, but lets not forget how young this kid is too
For those who say his soft or stupid for giving up an opportunity like this, I am not having a go at you at all, but I would be certain your young in age.
Well you would be wrong.. I guess nothing is certain.
To all the bleeding hearts out there, how do you think the guy who missed out on an AFL contract feels?
Oh well now he will join the real world and get a labourers job or whatever. Work for quarter of what he could of made from footy.. I wont be losing sleep over his decision, in a few years he will be though.
Bit of a shame as the kid has such talent - I won't call him soft but I just hope he doesn't look back in 10 years time and feel nothing but regret. Don't think any clubs will want to touch him in the future, too many issues.
Chris Fagan (GM Football Operations) is talking to the media now
"We knew he was missing Perth, so we took his licence as an opportunity for him to get back home"
"He is finding playing AFL football very stressful at the moment"
"We agreed with him yesterday to remain in Perth"
"We're proud we gave him an opportunity. If he can get that hunger back and play in Perth, we'd be happy for him"
"We believed a player with his talent was worth an opportunity"
"He probably thought it was good for him to come over to Melbourne but he found it hard"
"He had a couple of instances where he was late for training & not in the condition we would have liked - that wasn't a regular occurrence"
"There's no doubt we're disappointed, we thought he could really help us. But we're more disappointed for Dayle"
"We know what he can do, so it's a great disappointment for us"
"The best process is to delist him. We can't put him on the long-term injury list because he's not injured"
"He's got to look at the decisions he makes and the consequences. We would love nothing more to see him pursue footy when he's ready"
"We can't trade him at the end of the year (if he wants to play elsewhere). He'll be delisted"
"Hodgey is disappointed, he's built a relationship with him"
"We're not able to elevate a rookie as per the rules at the moment"
Quote from: Ricochet on March 26, 2014, 11:23:59 AM
"We're not able to elevate a rookie as per the rules at the moment"
Dammit.
Quote from: Mr.Craig on March 26, 2014, 12:19:48 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on March 26, 2014, 11:23:59 AM
"We're not able to elevate a rookie as per the rules at the moment"
Dammit.
Is it because he's quit rather than gone on leave (like Mitch Clark)? ???
Enormous facepalm at everyone calling him soft.
Geez that didn't take too long - Looks like Swan Districts are going to pick him up
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-03-26/wafl-chance-for-garlett
Was always going to end up there tbh. Its his home club
he wasnt living by himself he was living with Luke Hodge
i never said i couldn't handle it i said i was lonely and my sister asked me to move in with her not the other way around
stop putting words in my mouth....
and i brought this up in the privacy of the coaches forum i don't appreciate you bringing it up here....
Let's not get personal
Quote from: elephants on March 26, 2014, 01:22:30 PM
Enormous facepalm at everyone calling him soft.
Yep. Young or older it really just shows a pretty archaic attitude.
I currently earn less than minimum wage as a postgrad student studying something I really enjoy with the hopes that future job prospects will make it worth it. Realistically though, I know a lot of recent grads who have ended up in technician roles which don't pay spectacularly more than minimum wage anyway. Seems like it could be 9 years of study for nothing (Yes, I should have done medicine). But I ENJOY what I'm doing. If you offered me a job in another part of the country where I could be paid $100,000 (or whatever) to use the same skills but on a different project that I didn't enjoy, I wouldn't do it. Money doesn't make everything worth it.
Sure, it's a fantastic opportunity... in some peoples eyes. The chance to lay footy for big money, sounds great!... To us. Sounds like to him it wasn't something he could handle, it wasn't an opportunity, it was a cage. And no-one has the right to tell him that's wrong, or that he's soft for deciding to do what he wants.
Quote from: upthemaidens on March 26, 2014, 11:15:50 AM
To all the bleeding hearts out there, how do you think the guy who missed out on an AFL contract feels?
Probably gutted. So it's now Garlett's responsibility to live out every failed recruits aspirations, because he got picked and they didn't? And yeah, he may well come to regret this call, don't see that as being a reason to have a crack at him now. He's made a decision, for his own reasons and for his own benefit, it's not too hard to just respect it was his call to make and he made it...
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 26, 2014, 03:41:08 PM
and i brought this up in the privacy of the coaches forum i don't appreciate you bringing it up here....
Yeah HB that's a bit carp mate. Not needed. I disagree with KB labelling him soft also but let's not start dragging peoples personal lives into this...
Mods feel free to delete the last bit if this gets wiped. Would appreciate the rest of my post staying.
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 26, 2014, 03:41:08 PM
he wasnt living by himself he was living with Luke Hodge
i never said i couldn't handle it i said i was lonely and my sister asked me to move in with her not the other way around
stop putting words in my mouth....
and i brought this up in the privacy of the coaches forum i don't appreciate you bringing it up here....
Got your back kb I reported him!
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 26, 2014, 03:41:08 PM
he wasnt living by himself he was living with Luke Hodge
i never said i couldn't handle it i said i was lonely and my sister asked me to move in with her not the other way around
stop putting words in my mouth....
and i brought this up in the privacy of the coaches forum i don't appreciate you bringing it up here....
Look I'm sorry for bringing that up, but I was just trying to point out to you that there will always be a situation that someone won't be able to handle, but that doesn't make them a soft person. And that's something that I thought you would be able to relate to.
Quote from: upthemaidens on March 26, 2014, 11:15:50 AM
To all the bleeding hearts out there, how do you think the guy who missed out on an AFL contract feels?
Ummm, well there's another spot on an AFL list just opened up so if I were them I'd be working my ass off...
Haven't read much of the thread or article but first thoughts are that he sounds pretty ungrateful...
Quote from: elephants on March 26, 2014, 01:22:30 PM
Enormous facepalm at everyone calling him soft.
I think ungrateful is the better word.
That spot could have gone to someone else. They could of worked on their game, have an "AFL player" lifestyle, have a job with good pay (considering their age) etc
Quote from: Master Q on March 26, 2014, 07:05:32 PM
Quote from: elephants on March 26, 2014, 01:22:30 PM
Enormous facepalm at everyone calling him soft.
I think ungrateful is the better word.
That spot could have gone to someone else. They could of worked on their game, have an "AFL player" lifestyle, have a job with good pay (considering their age) etc
Or that person could've worked harder and actually earnt an AFL spot like Garlett did, they'll have another chance next year.
In general people shouldn't make silly conclusions about situations which they do not understand the context of the situation.
Garlett has the right to leave if he feels completely uncomfortable with his job, its what anyone else would do if they hated their job in another state/country.
If you guys think he would've had an easy life, go apply for the draft now
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on March 26, 2014, 08:08:19 PM
In general people shouldn't make silly conclusions about situations which they do not understand the context of the situation.
Isn't that what the internet is for? :P
Quote from: Rusty00 on March 26, 2014, 08:40:38 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on March 26, 2014, 08:08:19 PM
In general people shouldn't make silly conclusions about situations which they do not understand the context of the situation.
Isn't that what the internet is for? :P
Pretty much.
Quote from: Rusty00 on March 26, 2014, 08:40:38 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on March 26, 2014, 08:08:19 PM
In general people shouldn't make silly conclusions about situations which they do not understand the context of the situation.
Isn't that what the internet is for? :P
Welcome to what everyone has done to Essendon for over a year
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on March 26, 2014, 08:08:19 PM
Quote from: Master Q on March 26, 2014, 07:05:32 PM
Quote from: elephants on March 26, 2014, 01:22:30 PM
Enormous facepalm at everyone calling him soft.
I think ungrateful is the better word.
That spot could have gone to someone else. They could of worked on their game, have an "AFL player" lifestyle, have a job with good pay (considering their age) etc
Or that person could've worked harder and actually earnt an AFL spot like Garlett did, they'll have another chance next year.
In general people shouldn't make silly conclusions about situations which they do not understand the context of the situation.
Garlett has the right to leave if he feels completely uncomfortable with his job, its what anyone else would do if they hated their job in another state/country.
If you guys think he would've had an easy life, go apply for the draft now
And then that person who gets drafted next year takes the spot that someone else could've had. And then the cycle continues. :P
Never said he doesn't have the right to leave, but a 19/20 y.o should have some idea of what they're in for, especially that he has sort of been in the system for more than one year now. And to just throw it all away at once, just like that. I'm not making any silly conclusions, just giving what I think is a fair opinion. Of course I don't understand the whole situation, nobody does except those close to him - so every person's thoughts in here rate no higher than mine do, and I understand that.
There are some pretty spastic opinions in this thread, just sayin :P
Quote from: elephants on March 26, 2014, 09:07:23 PM
There are some pretty spastic opinions in this thread, just sayin :P
Guessing you support Swan Districts? :p
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on March 26, 2014, 09:15:17 PM
Quote from: elephants on March 26, 2014, 09:07:23 PM
There are some pretty spastic opinions in this thread, just sayin :P
Guessing you support Swan Districts? :p
Nope, you support the Hawks though ;)
What a shock, think I will fall over and die from this shock
Quote from: elephants on March 26, 2014, 09:07:23 PM
There are some pretty spastic opinions in this thread, just sayin :P
Did you expect anything less? :P
AFL @AFL 15m
Garlett in limbo as Swan Districts say no. @TravKing_AFL has details: http://afl.to/1m9L7VN
Well then...
Very interesting, wonder if he burnt bridges
Quote from: ossie85 on March 28, 2014, 05:39:42 PM
Very interesting, wonder if he burnt bridges
Come to South Freo, we'll take him! ;)
Quote from: j959 on April 01, 2014, 03:01:03 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on March 28, 2014, 05:39:42 PM
Very interesting, wonder if he burnt bridges
Come to South Freo, we'll take him! ;)
Unfortunately he's going out to Dandaragan