Poll
Question:
Who will win?
Option 1: Richmond
votes: 27
Option 2: Carlton
votes: 3
Option 3: Draw
votes: 2
Both teams coming off disappointing losses. Can the Tigers win to prove that last year's 5th place finish was no fluke? Or will the Blues show they have what it takes to make the 8?
We'll get up.
tipping Tigers
Backin' the draw!
Tigers should bounce back here
Will head off to see this massive game at the G'.
Carlton should win this one. Carn Blues!
Quote from: Master Q on March 25, 2014, 06:32:52 PM
Will head off to see this massive game at the G'.
Carlton should win this one. Carn Blues!
why should Carlton win? Tigers have a better list on paper
Who won last time?
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 25, 2014, 09:01:43 PM
Quote from: Master Q on March 25, 2014, 09:01:10 PM
Who won last time?
who cares about last time?
That's a great answer to continue a discussion I was willing to have...
Richmond should win very comfortably. Richmond by 8 goals
Carlton in for a horrid year IMO.
Come on Tiggs! Really need to bounce back from last weekend's loss with a win here. Hopefully the team can rally around the boys that usually get tagged and help them break through their opponents as I think the class of Deledio & Ellis is really gonna be important in this match if we're gonna win!
Richmond have a much better side, and should win this by over 20 points at the very least.
So my tip is Carlton by 9 points
Quote from: GoLions16 on March 26, 2014, 05:15:25 PM
Richmond have a much better side, and should win this by over 20 points at the very least.
So my tip is Carlton by 9 points
This is my fear. I swear that every time we
should win we manage to lose :(
I think Richmond will win by 18.
If Vickery could catch, they probably could have beaten GC
Carlton in their current configuration aren't a top 8 team
Patrick Keane @AFL_PKeane 3m
Thursday Rd2 Rich v Carl Teams named:
King, Grimes in for Rance, McDonough (both omit).
White, Lucas in for Walker (susp), McInnes (omit).
Rance out with a foot injury. McDonough dropped which was disappointing, was hoping Petterd/Foley were dropped before him.
Quote from: Ricochet on March 26, 2014, 06:42:25 PM
Patrick Keane @AFL_PKeane 3m
Thursday Rd2 Rich v Carl Teams named:
King, Grimes in for Rance, McDonough (both omit).
White, Lucas in for Walker (susp), McInnes (omit).
Consarnit
McDonough ---> Z.Merrett coming up
RICHMOND
B Troy Chaplin, David Astbury, Dylan Grimes
HB Bachar Houli, Nick Vlastuin, Steven Morris
C Shaun Grigg, Brett Deledio, Brandon Ellis
HF Ricky Petterd, Dustin Martin, Jake King
F Shane Edwards, Jack Riewoldt, Ty Vickery
FOL Shaun Hampson, Matt Thomas, Trent Cotchin
I/C Nathan Foley, Reece Conca, Ben Griffiths, Chris Newman
EMG Aaron Edwards, Matt McDonough, Sam Lloyd
CARLTON
B Matthew Watson, Michael Jamison, Andrejs Everitt
HB Chris Yarran, Zach Tuohy, Kade Simpson
C Ed Curnow, Brock McLean, Bryce Gibbs
HF Tom Bell, Lachie Henderson, Jeff Garlett
F David Ellard, Jarrad Waite, Mitch Robinson
FOL Robert Warnock, Marc Murphy, Dale Thomas
I/C Matthew Kreuzer, Kane Lucas, Troy Menzel, Simon White
EMG Dylan Buckley, Sam Rowe, Jaryd Cachia
Bloody annoyed McDonough has been dropped... Petterd should have gone before him.
Hope Rancey is all good though... It says on AFL.com that he's been omitted?
Quote from: Toga on March 26, 2014, 06:45:28 PM
Bloody annoyed McDonough has been dropped... Petterd should have gone before him.
Hope Rancey is all good though... It says on AFL.com that he's been omitted?
It's a mistake, Rance has a foot injury.
Lewis Taylor best option to trade in for McDonough in RDT and SC?
Im holding til next week man. Taylor could play again this week and then get dropped next week.
The weather isn't looking overly great in Melbourne today, so there's a chance McDonough could come in for one of our talls.
I'm guessing that would be Griffiths if it did happen
Quote from: Ricochet on March 27, 2014, 10:14:26 AM
I'm guessing that would be Griffiths if it did happen
Yep, you'd think so.
Any of McDonough, Lloyd or Edwards could come in.
Quote from: Ricochet on March 27, 2014, 10:14:26 AM
I'm guessing that would be Griffiths if it did happen
Yeah, that would be the most likely option.
Quote from: JROO8 on March 27, 2014, 10:17:38 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on March 27, 2014, 10:14:26 AM
I'm guessing that would be Griffiths if it did happen
Yep, you'd think so.
Any of McDonough, Lloyd or Edwards could come in.
If we're taking out Griffiths, I can't imagine us putting Az in. ???
Quote from: NigeyS on March 27, 2014, 10:19:04 AM
Quote from: JROO8 on March 27, 2014, 10:17:38 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on March 27, 2014, 10:14:26 AM
I'm guessing that would be Griffiths if it did happen
Yep, you'd think so.
Any of McDonough, Lloyd or Edwards could come in.
If we're taking out Griffiths, I can't imagine us putting Az in. ???
I'm not sure who will come in (if there is a late change), but Azza can play as a tall, but he isn't exactly tall (around 185cm's I think) so he wouldn't be the worst option.
I'm hoping McDonough is brought in :P
Quote from: NigeyS on March 27, 2014, 10:19:04 AM
Quote from: JROO8 on March 27, 2014, 10:17:38 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on March 27, 2014, 10:14:26 AM
I'm guessing that would be Griffiths if it did happen
Yep, you'd think so.
Any of McDonough, Lloyd or Edwards could come in.
If we're taking out Griffiths, I can't imagine us putting Az in. ???
BUt why would you take out a kpp because its wet only to replace them with another kpp
Tipping the Tiges to win but with no confidence
Even if McDonough comes in as a late change the fact that he was omitted in the first place is enough for me to trade him out - to a player with much better JS.
Quote from: Ricochet on March 27, 2014, 10:52:08 AM
BUt why would you take out a kpp because its wet only to replace them with another kpp
He's not really a KPP though, he's a shorter forward that can play a lead-up role. But his defensive/tackling skills are also quite good so he'd probably be a better inclusion than Griffo in the wet.
Quote from: Toga on March 27, 2014, 03:27:27 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on March 27, 2014, 10:52:08 AM
BUt why would you take out a kpp because its wet only to replace them with another kpp
He's not really a KPP though, he's a shorter forward that can play a lead-up role. But his defensive/tackling skills are also quite good so he'd probably be a better inclusion than Griffo in the wet.
Quote from: Toga on March 27, 2014, 03:27:27 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on March 27, 2014, 10:52:08 AM
BUt why would you take out a kpp because its wet only to replace them with another kpp
He's not really a KPP though, he's a shorter forward that can play a lead-up role. But his defensive/tackling skills are also quite good so he'd probably be a better inclusion than Griffo in the wet.
Yeh exactly he's a lead up fwd, who don't benefit from it being wet. If a team is replacing a key fwd because its wet, it'd be with a small fwd or extra midfielder because there will be more stoppages and the game will take more taxing on the midfielders than normal.
Yeah what I'm saying though is you get the best of both worlds with someone like Az IMO - he is still a really good marking player but is also much better at ground level & tackling than someone taller like Griffiths. He's kind of an inbetweener in that sense.
Can't think of where else to post it so I'll post this here...
I'm thinking of setting the polls to lock at the start of the game (so set this one to lock at 7:45, for example) so that we get a better idea of how many actually tipped each team before the bounce, rather than people answering the poll with 5 minutes left in the game... Thoughts?
Good idea LH.
Yep like it
Matthew Kreuzer and Matthew Watson will be late withdrawals tonight.
Buckley and Rowe in.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/matthew-kreuzer-matthew-watson-late-withdrawals-for-carltons-match-against-richmond-20140327-zqnop.html
Welp... after that you can't actually set a time to lock it (you can set a number of days but that's not that helpful) so I'll just have to do my best to remember to lock it when the game starts. I'll be at the game tonight though so that won't be happening!
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A pic of the G at 4:30pm, it's cleared up.
4:31pm
(http://i60.tinypic.com/3028igz.jpg)
4:32pm
(http://i61.tinypic.com/2eob6ns.jpg)
quit making fun of Melbourmes weather Ric ;D
That's why we love Melbourne though. :P
Also, in that last pic... Benny Nason! 8)
Intriguing battle and actually really tough to tip but, the tigers seem to think they are a top four side despite a very young midfield now, I do however think the Tigs will win, Carlton have a lot to prove yet but are they up for it?
Yes I think the Blues will be up for it but the Tigs have to be desperate, Richmond by 11 points
Nathan Schmook @AFL_Nathan 32s
FINAL TEAMS: confirmed Kreuzer and Watson out, replaced by Buckley and Rowe. Tigers as named. Subs are Lucas (CAR) and Foley (RICH)
No surprise in either sub for me. Foley's become Matt White.
I think I might go Griffiths over Langford now that I know he's not the sub. Afraid that the wet conditions will hurt him though.
Dusty plus Ellard and Griffiths on the bench.
if Simpson cops weeks for that then it's a disgrace
holy shiy Ellis what a kick! good pick up from Roo aswell
At what point will Carlton work out there's a footy game on?
Bell shows how you shank a kick
Deledio already up to 60SC
What a pathetic quarter. They were not helped by a few iffy calls which resulted in goals but learn how to kick the F'ING ball. The Garlett one made me want to put my fist through the screen.
Griffiths looks terrible.
looks like a good game if Carlton can start kicking straight funny watching Mick on the boundary line
QUARTER TIME
Richmond 6.3 (39)
Carlton 2.4 (16)
RICHMOND:
3 Brett Deledio 61
4 Dustin Martin 45
31 Nick Vlastuin 37
19 Matt Thomas 35
9 Trent Cotchin 29
14 Bachar Houli 26
5 Brandon Ellis 24
29 Ty Vickery 24
6 Shaun Grigg 22
25 Troy Chaplin 22
1 Chris Newman 19
28 Jake King 19
10 Shane Edwards 19
12 David Astbury 18
30 Reece Conca 18
13 Ricky Petterd 17
16 Shaun Hampson 16
24 Ben Griffiths 11
2 Dylan Grimes 9
8 Jack Riewoldt 8
38 Steven Morris 1
41 Nathan Foley 0 (SUB)
CARLTON:
7 Dylan Buckley 33
35 Ed Curnow 28
23 Lachie Henderson 28
3 Marc Murphy 28
6 Kade Simpson 26
11 Robert Warnock 24
4 Bryce Gibbs 19
46 David Ellard 19
38 Jeff Garlett 18
13 Chris Yarran 17
28 Tom Bell 17
12 Mitch Robinson 13
30 Jarrad Waite 12
43 Simon White 11
14 Brock McLean 9
33 Andrejs Everitt 8
40 Michael Jamison 7
17 Sam Rowe 7
2 Troy Menzel 6
39 Dale Thomas 5
42 Zach Tuohy 3
9 Kane Lucas 0 (SUB)
Holy crap he does it again
Ellis with another unbelievable goal. Gablett would be proud of that effort
Not many with Lids this year. Think that might change........
Quote from: no eye deer on March 27, 2014, 08:40:41 PM
Not many with Lids this year. Think that might change........
And then he will start getting tagged again
Fantastic kicking for Richmond.
And Homer shouldn't have anything to worry about, he stopped well short of Vickery and was stationary when Tyrone ran head first into him.
Oh Dusty.
Quote from: Mr.Craig on March 27, 2014, 08:46:08 PM
Oh Dusty.
If he gets suspended for that there is something seriously wrong.
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 27, 2014, 08:41:41 PM
Quote from: no eye deer on March 27, 2014, 08:40:41 PM
Not many with Lids this year. Think that might change........
And then he will start getting tagged again
True that
Quote from: no eye deer on March 27, 2014, 08:40:41 PM
Not many with Lids this year. Think that might change........
In the "make a big call" thread my call was that Deledio will average/score more than Cotchin this year
I started Deledio the last 2 years, and really wanted so start him this year, so durable and good upside, but again his rd8 bye forced me to leave him out
Quote from: Bones Bombers on March 27, 2014, 08:42:58 PM
Fantastic kicking for Richmond.
And Homer shouldn't have anything to worry about, he stopped well short of Vickery and was stationary when Tyrone ran head first into him.
yeah absolutely mate, it would be common sense to let him off, but common sense isn't very common when it comes to the MRP. he'd better get off
If this form keeps up Daisy will be the most traded out player next week ;)
Carlton couldn't spot a target at a shooting range.
such a master at the 1 2 Cotch. love it
buggered that one up though
Wow Warnock. What a shank :o
How do you even kick it like that Warnock :o
Dusty! No second half fade out please ::)
So far Daisy's role seems to be "retrieve ball from the gutter".
Apparently he's done that 9 times
The boys on the panel believe Martin will get 2 weeks, down to 1 with a plea.... Cmon really.. for that
Cotchin, Martin in both AF and VS. Griffiths an AF emergency. Can't complain with that really :)
Also my match day side is on 410, the highest possible score atm is 450 (if people pick guys like Edwards, Astbury, Thomas)
Quote from: Jazzoskies on March 27, 2014, 09:16:21 PM
The boys on the panel believe Martin will get 2 weeks, down to 1 with a plea.... Cmon really.. for that
The guys on Ch 7 believe nothing in it and he should be ok
Tiges doing well, the boys are clearly fired up!
Tank's doing really well, they can't drop him when Jacko returns after performances like this... could be interesting to see who makes way.
This group of Carlton players will never win a flag no matter who coaches them, lesson here is a few #1 draft picks won't carry you to a grand final...this isn't basketball
Not all Juniors with talent transition that skill to AFL level footy.
Sneaky Cotch VC is sneaky
I chucked the VC on Cotchin just to see what would transpire :)
Quote from: Jazzoskies on March 27, 2014, 09:16:21 PM
The boys on the panel believe Martin will get 2 weeks, down to 1 with a plea.... Cmon really.. for that
OI mate, that Penguin is a real bully.
VC Cotch for me too. keep em comin Cotch
<- penguin should be reported instead of Martin ;)
that's weak Robbo
Does Jarrad Waite wanna try and draw any more free kicks? :P
Cotch blows a +6 >:(
TYRONE YOU LEGEND!
Come on Simpson, get involved!
How the hell is Gibbs on 52SC with 1 kick and 6 handballs????????
Edit - 5 tackles. 52 still seems too much
I love Matt Thomas. :-*
Quote from: no eye deer on March 27, 2014, 09:08:41 PM
Dusty! No second half fade out please ::)
Right on cue >:(
4 Dustin Martin 86
3 Brett Deledio 82
5 Brandon Ellis 77
6 Shaun Grigg 75
9 Trent Cotchin 75
19 Matt Thomas 74
14 Bachar Houli 70
31 Nick Vlastuin 70
25 Troy Chaplin 69
12 David Astbury 68
10 Shane Edwards 68
16 Shaun Hampson 62
13 Ricky Petterd 61
29 Ty Vickery 59
1 Chris Newman 57
24 Ben Griffiths 55
28 Jake King 52
30 Reece Conca 51
8 Jack Riewoldt 48
38 Steven Morris 23
2 Dylan Grimes 18
41 Nathan Foley 10
13 Chris Yarran 98
3 Marc Murphy 79
11 Robert Warnock 73
35 Ed Curnow 71
7 Dylan Buckley 66
30 Jarrad Waite 65
4 Bryce Gibbs 63
33 Andrejs Everitt 62
6 Kade Simpson 60
23 Lachie Henderson 57
39 Dale Thomas 56
38 Jeff Garlett 49
28 Tom Bell 48
12 Mitch Robinson 45
46 David Ellard 42
40 Michael Jamison 41
42 Zach Tuohy 36
43 Simon White 33
2 Troy Menzel 32
14 Brock McLean 22
17 Sam Rowe 21
9 Kane Lucas 4
Good quarter Daisy, another one of those would be nice. :)
Game should be much closer then it is kick straight Carlton
Griffiths doing enough to make a little bit of coin.
Richmond supporters would be feeling a little anxious methinks :P
Richmond doing their best to lose.
Quote from: brad on March 27, 2014, 10:12:02 PM
Richmond supporters would be feeling a little anxious methinks :P
I'm almost in tears, we've flowering imploded.
Just before half time while I was listening to Triple M in the car with my mate, I said that we'll somehow find a way to flower this up... the commentators then said something similar.
And sure enough... ::)
Cotch has barely seen it this quarter. :'(
Richmond have gone all Dusty.
ROFL Garlett!
jesus christ that's bad
What a kick from Gibbs.
fuuuuck. BOY OH BOY
Surely you cannot keep choking like this Richmond
It's about time I confessed to being a Gold Coast supporter.
I'd love to hear the actual possession stats for this last quarter. Tigs haven't even touched it.
I can't believe this is happening
Only 6 interchanges left 10min into 4th quarter for Richmond. First victim off the interchange cap maybe.....
CMON TIGES
TYRONE VICKERY
ROFL Warnock!
Vickery got 35 points for that. WTF
Vickery gets 35 SC points for that goal...
Hampson has just gone up 30 points somehow too
So retarded how they give so much points like this in close games
Gotta be 60 SC points in that kick for Dusty....
DUSTYYYYYY
what a last quarter holy flower
Quote from: Woppa15 on March 27, 2014, 10:34:37 PM
Gotta be 60 SC points in that kick for Dusty....
18
Quote from: Woppa15 on March 27, 2014, 10:34:37 PM
Gotta be 60 SC points in that kick for Dusty....
18
SC scoring in close games really is quite flowered - they take away points from players for no reason just to give someone who kicks a goal a massive amount of points
DUSTINMARTINDUSTIMARTINHUSTINMARTINSDUSTONMafiugashdpahd
:-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Simpson was frustrating today. Only 59 before scaling. Yet he had 23 possessions.
Quote from: NigeyS on March 27, 2014, 10:37:15 PM
DUSTINMARTINDUSTIMARTINHUSTINMARTINSDUSTONMafiugashdpahd
:-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Why are you so excited? Aren't you a Suns supporter?
Great way to open round 2. Already I've enjoyed it more than round 1.
Tigers were lucky to hold this off and win...looked like they were gonners again... lucky for dusty goal ;)
Did Deledio score 90% of his points in the first half?
Cotchin die in the last qtr?
And Thomas delivers a meh score, depending on shiels/macrame that decision may spit a few people.
Huh, how could Homer only score 59?
He was one of there more solid, consistent players for the game in my eyes. Others only gave effort in patches.
Quote from: frogjumper on March 27, 2014, 10:38:54 PM
Simpson was frustrating today. Only 59 before scaling. Yet he had 23 possessions.
He's been ripped off a bit. Worth 80 at least.
The only thing I can think that hurt Simmo is he struggled to hit a target in the last. His team mates struggled to hit targets all game. What a F'ing joke of a game.
MY AMAZING TIGZ WHY DID I DOUBT YOU.
Shower effort from Simpson
2 for 172
Champion Data? Data Shmata!
Would have hated to be a Tigers or Blues supporter watching that. But I've been watching Freo for 20 years, so I know how you feel! ::)
Simpson DE was not the best at one stage below 50 but ended up 60% which could explain it.
Daisy and Cotch have found a place under the grandstand to sleep.
Daisy used it in the first half, and Cotch in the 2nd. >:(
I want to break something
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 27, 2014, 10:52:13 PM
I want to break something
I want to punch someone from CD in the face
Where are you guys getting the scores from? SC hasn't updated yet
Final Points
19 Matt Thomas 118
4 Dustin Martin 108
16 Shaun Hampson 107
14 Bachar Houli 104
29 Ty Vickery 101
5 Brandon Ellis 93
3 Brett Deledio 92
12 David Astbury 91
31 Nick Vlastuin 91
1 Chris Newman 86
6 Shaun Grigg 85
9 Trent Cotchin 84
8 Jack Riewoldt 78
24 Ben Griffiths 76
13 Ricky Petterd 76
10 Shane Edwards 75
25 Troy Chaplin 71
30 Reece Conca 54
28 Jake King 47
41 Nathan Foley 38
38 Steven Morris 33
2 Dylan Grimes 22
3 Marc Murphy 121
11 Robert Warnock 118
13 Chris Yarran 108
30 Jarrad Waite 104
35 Ed Curnow 101
39 Dale Thomas 92
7 Dylan Buckley 86
33 Andrejs Everitt 81
23 Lachie Henderson 81
4 Bryce Gibbs 69
2 Troy Menzel 69
38 Jeff Garlett 68
12 Mitch Robinson 62
6 Kade Simpson 61
40 Michael Jamison 58
28 Tom Bell 55
17 Sam Rowe 53
43 Simon White 47
42 Zach Tuohy 45
9 Kane Lucas 42
46 David Ellard 39
14 Brock McLean 10
Buckley didn't look too bad.
Menzel is gonna be a seriously good player!
Cotch y u do dis?
Hampson with another hundy
Quote from: BGK on March 27, 2014, 10:40:22 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on March 27, 2014, 10:37:15 PM
DUSTINMARTINDUSTIMARTINHUSTINMARTINSDUSTONMafiugashdpahd
:-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Why are you so excited? Aren't you a Suns supporter?
Great way to open round 2. Already I've enjoyed it more than round 1.
Depends on the day. :P
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 27, 2014, 10:56:32 PM
I want to punch someone from CD in the face
I am thinking the umpire who didn't pay 50 after Vickery clotheslined Buckley when he was trying to take the kick in, otherwise Jeffy looks to be in the firing line for being a smart ass instead of actually kicking through the ball and nailing those two goals.
Quote from: Frankfaust on March 27, 2014, 11:01:36 PM
Buckley didn't look too bad.
He is a gun, I was surprised he missed round 1 and deserves his spot in the side. When Walker comes back they should push him into the guts/forward and let Yarran and Buckley play off half back.
YOU BEAUTY!
Was terrible to watch but the boys got over the line when I didn't think we would. Loves a good win over Carlscum! Cotch wasnt great for my AF team but I don't care, we won!! 8)
Btw not sure if umpires tonight were wearing green or blue... flowering terrible.
Did any one see Mick's press conference... That was classic! The look on the reporters faces was priceless.
Just got home... Absolutely gutted. Cracker of a game, pretty bad performance despite the last quarter. Don't get me started on Gartlett and our kicking! Gibbs scored a magical goal right in front of where I was sitting which was a great moment though.
Oh, and there you go Thursday night haters. Hope you enjoyed it! 62k 8)
Quote from: Toga on March 27, 2014, 11:11:45 PM
Btw not sure if umpires tonight were wearing green or blue... flowering terrible.
You're kidding right?
Quote from: ttste1 on March 27, 2014, 11:23:40 PM
Did any one see Mick's press conference... That was classic! The look on the reporters faces was priceless.
I agreed with him on the guy that made the comment about Waite, but I have a feeling he doesn't like Belll
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 27, 2014, 11:27:56 PM
Quote from: Toga on March 27, 2014, 11:11:45 PM
Btw not sure if umpires tonight were wearing green or blue... flowering terrible.
You're kidding right?
Nope
Inconsistent bullshower, especially in the last quarter.
Quote from: Toga on March 27, 2014, 11:28:57 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 27, 2014, 11:27:56 PM
Quote from: Toga on March 27, 2014, 11:11:45 PM
Btw not sure if umpires tonight were wearing green or blue... flowering terrible.
You're kidding right?
Nope
Inconsistent bullshower, especially in the last quarter.
Umpires tried their very best to give the game to the Blues in that last quarter but Carlton wasted it in front of goal.
Ones that quickly come to mind are Ellis' holding the man when he marked it on the 50 and that interesting free against Griffiths that led to a Waite behind. There was also some very interested "shepherding" calls in marking contests that went Carlton's way yet, when the same happened to Morris, it was a Carlton free for an unrealistic attempt at a specky or whatever the umpire was making up. The list just goes on and on...
Quote from: ttste1 on March 27, 2014, 11:23:40 PM
Did any one see Mick's press conference... That was classic! The look on the reporters faces was priceless.
I couldn't believe how poor the journo's actually are. They all look like a bunch of nerds, and have no confidence in the way they talk, seeming shy and intimidated. A coach is just a person, ask them questions in confidence and challenge them/expect answers
Mick just gives them one sentence answers and moves on, and they just sit there like wimps.
Quote from: LaHug on March 28, 2014, 12:35:51 AM
Quote from: Toga on March 27, 2014, 11:28:57 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 27, 2014, 11:27:56 PM
Quote from: Toga on March 27, 2014, 11:11:45 PM
Btw not sure if umpires tonight were wearing green or blue... flowering terrible.
You're kidding right?
Nope
Inconsistent bullshower, especially in the last quarter.
Umpires tried their very best to give the game to the Blues in that last quarter but Carlton wasted it in front of goal.
Ones that quickly come to mind are Ellis' holding the man when he marked it on the 50 and that interesting free against Griffiths that led to a Waite behind. There was also some very interested "shepherding" calls in marking contests that went Carlton's way yet, when the same happened to Morris, it was a Carlton free for an unrealistic attempt at a specky or whatever the umpire was making up. The list just goes on and on...
A big fat +1!
Glad I wasn't the only one that saw it, you pretty much summed up my thoughts exactly Huggy.
Quote from: Toga on March 28, 2014, 09:32:11 AM
Quote from: LaHug on March 28, 2014, 12:35:51 AM
Quote from: Toga on March 27, 2014, 11:28:57 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 27, 2014, 11:27:56 PM
Quote from: Toga on March 27, 2014, 11:11:45 PM
Btw not sure if umpires tonight were wearing green or blue... flowering terrible.
You're kidding right?
Nope
Inconsistent bullshower, especially in the last quarter.
Umpires tried their very best to give the game to the Blues in that last quarter but Carlton wasted it in front of goal.
Ones that quickly come to mind are Ellis' holding the man when he marked it on the 50 and that interesting free against Griffiths that led to a Waite behind. There was also some very interested "shepherding" calls in marking contests that went Carlton's way yet, when the same happened to Morris, it was a Carlton free for an unrealistic attempt at a specky or whatever the umpire was making up. The list just goes on and on...
A big fat +1!
Glad I wasn't the only one that saw it, you pretty much summed up my thoughts exactly Huggy.
Yeah, the umps were bad. Huggy's nailed some of the glaring ones.
Quote from: NigeyS on March 28, 2014, 10:12:55 AM
Quote from: Toga on March 28, 2014, 09:32:11 AM
Quote from: LaHug on March 28, 2014, 12:35:51 AM
Quote from: Toga on March 27, 2014, 11:28:57 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 27, 2014, 11:27:56 PM
Quote from: Toga on March 27, 2014, 11:11:45 PM
Btw not sure if umpires tonight were wearing green or blue... flowering terrible.
You're kidding right?
Nope
Inconsistent bullshower, especially in the last quarter.
Umpires tried their very best to give the game to the Blues in that last quarter but Carlton wasted it in front of goal.
Ones that quickly come to mind are Ellis' holding the man when he marked it on the 50 and that interesting free against Griffiths that led to a Waite behind. There was also some very interested "shepherding" calls in marking contests that went Carlton's way yet, when the same happened to Morris, it was a Carlton free for an unrealistic attempt at a specky or whatever the umpire was making up. The list just goes on and on...
A big fat +1!
Glad I wasn't the only one that saw it, you pretty much summed up my thoughts exactly Huggy.
Yeah, the umps were bad. Huggy's nailed some of the glaring ones.
The Morris one was fair enough, he went for the specky and didn't get a hand on it. That's been a free kick for years.
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Btw not sure if umpires tonight were wearing green or blue... flowering terrible.
You're kidding right?
Nope
Inconsistent bullshower, especially in the last quarter.
Umpires tried their very best to give the game to the Blues in that last quarter but Carlton wasted it in front of goal.
Ones that quickly come to mind are Ellis' holding the man when he marked it on the 50 and that interesting free against Griffiths that led to a Waite behind. There was also some very interested "shepherding" calls in marking contests that went Carlton's way yet, when the same happened to Morris, it was a Carlton free for an unrealistic attempt at a specky or whatever the umpire was making up. The list just goes on and on...
A big fat +1!
Glad I wasn't the only one that saw it, you pretty much summed up my thoughts exactly Huggy.
Yeah, the umps were bad. Huggy's nailed some of the glaring ones.
So does that mean Dusty goes for a week as well for the soft hit. MRP needs to to be consistent now. You guys jumped all over me so just saying. BTW I agree umpiring favoured Carlton as well.
Yeah not sure Ringo, will be interesting to see what they decide here.
The panel on FoxFooty seemed to think it would meet the criteria for a two week suspension down to one with an early plea, while it sounds like Channel 7's panel thought he would be fine. Richo says "gee, from that vision it's hard to tell whether he made contact" so not sure what part that will play, considering the footage is pretty poor.
One thing is for certain, Simon White landed one on Dusty's chin as well so if Dusty goes, White has to go as well.
Channel 7 were looking at it from a footy fans "gee that's soft, nothing in it" point of view. Jon Ralph was looking at it from a "what is the MRP likely to think" point of view.
MRP have made it pretty clear that hits off the ball will be penalised. The key is whether the contact was sufficient enough to constitute a report. If the MRP think it was (likely) then it's a guaranteed 2 weeks down to 1, the same as Rocky.
I personally don't like (especially as I have both of them in SC), but I'm pretty sure Martin will get a week's rest.
Quote from: Rusty00 on March 28, 2014, 11:17:12 AM
Channel 7 were looking at it from a footy fans "gee that's soft, nothing in it" point of view. Jon Ralph was looking at it from a "what is the MRP likely to think" point of view.
MRP have made it pretty clear that hits off the ball will be penalised. The key is whether the contact was sufficient enough to constitute a report. If the MRP think it was (likely) then it's a guaranteed 2 weeks down to 1, the same as Rocky.
I personally don't like (especially as I have both of them in SC), but I'm pretty sure Martin will get a week's rest.
The thing that will help Dusty is the footage is impossible to tell and Simon White wasnt a person about it and didnt take a dive. To me it looked like an open handed jumper punch but who knows what the lottery of the MRP will class it as
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Quote from: Rusty00 on March 28, 2014, 11:17:12 AM
Channel 7 were looking at it from a footy fans "gee that's soft, nothing in it" point of view. Jon Ralph was looking at it from a "what is the MRP likely to think" point of view.
MRP have made it pretty clear that hits off the ball will be penalised. The key is whether the contact was sufficient enough to constitute a report. If the MRP think it was (likely) then it's a guaranteed 2 weeks down to 1, the same as Rocky.
I personally don't like (especially as I have both of them in SC), but I'm pretty sure Martin will get a week's rest.
The thing that will help Dusty is the footage is impossible to tell and Simon White wasnt a person about it and didnt take a dive. To me it looked like an open handed jumper punch but who knows what the lottery of the MRP will class it as
unlike Waite's attempt for a free kick. Lol that was shocking acting
Haha that was really terrible wasn't it!
"C'mon Waitey, it was nowhere near your face. It hit you in the right nipple!" ;D
Haha thats right. Yeh it was terrible
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Channel 7 were looking at it from a footy fans "gee that's soft, nothing in it" point of view. Jon Ralph was looking at it from a "what is the MRP likely to think" point of view.
MRP have made it pretty clear that hits off the ball will be penalised. The key is whether the contact was sufficient enough to constitute a report. If the MRP think it was (likely) then it's a guaranteed 2 weeks down to 1, the same as Rocky.
I personally don't like (especially as I have both of them in SC), but I'm pretty sure Martin will get a week's rest.
The thing that will help Dusty is the footage is impossible to tell and Simon White wasnt a person about it and didnt take a dive. To me it looked like an open handed jumper punch but who knows what the lottery of the MRP will class it as
unlike Waite's attempt for a free kick. Lol that was shocking acting
They brought in a rule 2 years ago to stamp out that sort of BS so he should be sited for that
First time I've been on FF since before the game.
Sooo happy we got the result, I really thought we would lose it in the last quarter.
Carlton's kicking in front of goals in the last quarter was pretty poor, so we're lucky we got the result.
Griffiths mark in the last minute or so was massive, that was a game saver. Dusty's goal was awesome too!
Does anyone have footage of the Dusty report? I must've missed it.
About SC scores, I was expecting Simpson to score 90+ (without looking at the stats, as I was watching it live at the game), so to only score 61 is an absolute joke. Happy with Murphy and Dusty, but Cotch was a little disappointing.
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Btw not sure if umpires tonight were wearing green or blue... flowering terrible.
You're kidding right?
Nope
Inconsistent bullshower, especially in the last quarter.
Umpires tried their very best to give the game to the Blues in that last quarter but Carlton wasted it in front of goal.
Ones that quickly come to mind are Ellis' holding the man when he marked it on the 50 and that interesting free against Griffiths that led to a Waite behind. There was also some very interested "shepherding" calls in marking contests that went Carlton's way yet, when the same happened to Morris, it was a Carlton free for an unrealistic attempt at a specky or whatever the umpire was making up. The list just goes on and on...
A big fat +1!
Glad I wasn't the only one that saw it, you pretty much summed up my thoughts exactly Huggy.
+2 the umpires weren't great in the last quarter.
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Quote from: Toga on March 27, 2014, 11:28:57 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 27, 2014, 11:27:56 PM
Quote from: Toga on March 27, 2014, 11:11:45 PM
Btw not sure if umpires tonight were wearing green or blue... flowering terrible.
You're kidding right?
Nope
Inconsistent bullshower, especially in the last quarter.
Umpires tried their very best to give the game to the Blues in that last quarter but Carlton wasted it in front of goal.
Ones that quickly come to mind are Ellis' holding the man when he marked it on the 50 and that interesting free against Griffiths that led to a Waite behind. There was also some very interested "shepherding" calls in marking contests that went Carlton's way yet, when the same happened to Morris, it was a Carlton free for an unrealistic attempt at a specky or whatever the umpire was making up. The list just goes on and on...
A big fat +1!
Glad I wasn't the only one that saw it, you pretty much summed up my thoughts exactly Huggy.
Yeah, the umps were bad. Huggy's nailed some of the glaring ones.
The Morris one was fair enough, he went for the specky and didn't get a hand on it. That's been a free kick for years.
I think the Morris one was definitely worthy of being called an unrealistic attempt BUT he was also shepherded from the possibility of a realistic attempt. I'm fine with them calling it but they gave Carlton at least two free kicks for the same thing that Yarran did. I don't mind the free kick call but the consistency was atrocious!
Additionally, I forgot about the one where they reversed a free kick just outside our 50 for what looked like (as far as I could tell from the crowd, at least) a Carlton player tripping over someone. Can anyone actually explain what happened there?!
Quote from: JROO8 on March 28, 2014, 12:19:35 PM
About SC scores, I was expecting Simpson to score 90+ (without looking at the stats, as I was watching it live at the game), so to only score 61 is an absolute joke. Happy with Murphy and Dusty, but Cotch was a little disappointing.
Every time Simpson got the ball (which seemed like a lot), I kept telling my friends that we need to watch this guy. I thought he was killing us so was also very surprised by the SC score.
On Simmo's score
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Breaking it down with the stats we have available.
12 effective kicks = 48
4 clangers = -16
2 effective handballs = 3
1 Goal = 8
6 Uncontested Marks = 12
2 Tackles = 8
1 Free Kick For = 4
1 Free Against = -4
Is 63. He only have 3 contested possessions so he probably only had 1 hardball get if that. Then scaled down. So kinda makes sense
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First time I've been on FF since before the game.
Sooo happy we got the result, I really thought we would lose it in the last quarter.
Carlton's kicking in front of goals in the last quarter was pretty poor, so we're lucky we got the result.
Griffiths mark in the last minute or so was massive, that was a game saver. Dusty's goal was awesome too!
Does anyone have footage of the Dusty report? I must've missed it.
About SC scores, I was expecting Simpson to score 90+ (without looking at the stats, as I was watching it live at the game), so to only score 61 is an absolute joke. Happy with Murphy and Dusty, but Cotch was a little disappointing.
http://www.afl.com.au/video/2014-03-27/dusty-martin-on-report
For JR
There is a thread in P&T in SC on Simpson ehich is worth readin as well a fair bit of debate in there
http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,92541.msg1326313.html#new
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Quote from: JROO8 on March 28, 2014, 12:19:35 PM
First time I've been on FF since before the game.
Sooo happy we got the result, I really thought we would lose it in the last quarter.
Carlton's kicking in front of goals in the last quarter was pretty poor, so we're lucky we got the result.
Griffiths mark in the last minute or so was massive, that was a game saver. Dusty's goal was awesome too!
Does anyone have footage of the Dusty report? I must've missed it.
About SC scores, I was expecting Simpson to score 90+ (without looking at the stats, as I was watching it live at the game), so to only score 61 is an absolute joke. Happy with Murphy and Dusty, but Cotch was a little disappointing.
http://www.afl.com.au/video/2014-03-27/dusty-martin-on-report
For JR
There is a thread in P&T in SC on Simpson ehich is worth readin as well a fair bit of debate in there
http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,92541.msg1326313.html#new
Cheers. :)
As Richo said, hard to see if there's any contact.
I have no idea what the MRP will do, hoping he gets off but I'm no confident.
has there been any talk on the Simpson report? it's a disgrace if he cops anything
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has there been any talk on the Simpson report? it's a disgrace if he cops anything
Was he even reported? ???
Ty probably should have got a free kick though.
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Quote from: brad on March 28, 2014, 02:49:21 PM
has there been any talk on the Simpson report? it's a disgrace if he cops anything
Was he even reported? ???
Ty probably should have got a free kick though.
to be honest I'm not even sure if he got reported haha, I just assumed he had because they usually get reported AT LEAST in those cases
Nah don't think he was reported fellas. The commentators just thought he would be looked at by the MRP, he should be fine though.
sweet, cheers Toges. can never predict anything the MRP will do so I can only hope
Quote from: NigeyS on March 28, 2014, 02:50:33 PM
Was he even reported? ???
Ty probably should have got a free kick though.
No report, it was a good call not giving a free kick either since on the replay you can see Vickery looks up, sees Simmo standing still then leads with his head at him to try and win a free kick. Umps have been instructed not to pay those and I 100% agree.
Quote from: LaHug on March 28, 2014, 01:23:29 PM
Additionally, I forgot about the one where they reversed a free kick just outside our 50 for what looked like (as far as I could tell from the crowd, at least) a Carlton player tripping over someone. Can anyone actually explain what happened there?!
Richmond player, I think it was Matt Thomas from memory threw an elbow into Daisy hitting him in the thigh pretty close to the nuts. I think that might be the one you are referring too
Having said that, if you want to talk about inconsistencies, twice a Richmond player (once in the first half, once late in the game) was caught holding the ball, no free called, twice a Carlton player had their head ripped off (they didn't duck) in the first half, no call, Vickery slams into Buckley when he is trying to take a quick kick in after the point, no 50, Cotchin gets the free for holding when he runs into a stationary Carlton player and slots the goal, had the free gone to Matt Thomas for a high free I wouldn't have had a problem with it since Brock got him in the face, but it didn't, Carlton were getting screwed early and often in that game by the umpiring, towards the end the subjective calls that went our way were just even ups.
Had Carlton actually kicked straight it wouldn't have mattered, that is what cost them the game. The most disappointing thing is they were asleep for 2 and a half quarters and showed absolutely zero intensity. I think we were lucky to have about 7 players show any heart that entire first and were playing smart ass football. To put it simply, they were pathetic. But the positive coming out of the game is they still almost won. Missing 5 or 6 of the best 22 and dishing up the effort they did, they still almost managed to win the game. Buckley needs to get as many games into him as possible, Yarran needs to stay at half back, it is where he is most dangerous, he is too restricted in the forward line and looks like tearing the game apart when he streaks from half back running towards the 50.