Thinking that I'm going to regret picking this guy.
Not that he is a spud or anything, its due to Trent West playing along side him.
When a second fiddle ruck like West scores 100 sc and Leuenburger who you paid over $500,000 for can only score 79 or whatever it was you know things aren't looking good for the season ahead.
I'll give Burger one more chance before I downgrade him to someone like Hampson and then collect the $200,000 to use for an early midfield upgrade.
Thoughts on Leuenburger and people who have him like me what are you going to do with him?
I can't see him scoring well enough while West is in the same team to be honest. West is stealing too many of Leuenburgers points. ::)
it was one game calm your farm
West kicked 3 goals from the goal square which helped his score. But I also would have stayed away from Leuenberger with West in the side, even if the guy is a f'ing spud, he is going to be giving him a chop out for extended periods, especially with the new rotation cap. This could be a good thing if West is a competent ruck, but it isn't because while Berger is resting up forward the opposition will gain an ascendancy in the ruck and pump it inside 50. We have also seen the last couple of seasons what happens with guys sharing the ruck load in terms of their scoring.
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 22, 2014, 11:54:28 PM
West kicked 3 goals from the goal square which helped his score. But I also would have stayed away from Leuenberger with West in the side, even if the guy is a f'ing spud, he is going to be giving him a chop out for extended periods, especially with the new rotation cap. This could be a good thing if West is a competent ruck, but it isn't because while Berger is resting up forward the opposition will gain an ascendancy in the ruck and pump it inside 50. We have also seen the last couple of seasons what happens with guys sharing the ruck load in terms of their scoring.
Yeah I think Burgers getting the chop in round 3 for me.
I just can't see him scoring anywhere well enough while West is in the same team.
I knew picking Burger would come back and bite me on the behind. May aswell fix the mistake before its too late.
No way will Burger finish top 5 rucks while West around. :(
Haha JM .. No trades left again.. Not sure West will play most weeks.. Still think Leuy will be fine... Who ya getting instead..
You have another round to assess him which is an advantage since there are no price changes until the round after. Don't jump the gun next week, monitor him against the Cats and if it looks the same, then you have to consider pulling the trigger.
There are also 4 or 5 options that are cheaper then Berger. Nic Nat, Big Boy, Mummy, Lobbe (although he had an average round 1 as well), Hampson, Hickey (although you want to see something similar against better competition) and Ryder although Bellchambers will be back soon meaning it is a waste of a trade since you could be stuck in the same position.
Way too early to start trading out premos, Leuey is quality and will come good eventually.
Another thing, rucks can be volatile in a scoring sense..
Another thing, the top scoring rucks in the last couple of seasons not named Dean Cox started the season under 500 k and rucked 1 out.
Quote from: Bully on March 23, 2014, 12:30:25 AM
Way too early to start trading out premos, Leuey is quality and will come good eventually.
I can't see Burger doing any better while West is in the same team.
That's just how I feel and what I think will keep on happening unfortunately. :-\
Quote from: HotTiges on March 23, 2014, 12:24:52 AM
Haha JM .. No trades left again.. Not sure West will play most weeks.. Still think Leuy will be fine... Who ya getting instead..
I'll wait at least another week but thinking of downgrading Burger to Hampson.
Hampson seems to be the best pick out of the 3 cheapo rucks I reckon (Hampson, Hickey, H-Mac)
Or I guess I could downgrade him to NicNat but I have fearful reservations about him too. Still don't think NicNat is 100% right and his groin injury could re-surface any minute.
Maybe downgrading Burger to Hampson and waiting for Goldy or Minson to drop in price is the way to go? :-\
it is only 1 game guys. I am still confident he can have a good season
If burger was the lone ruck I would of been on him as confident he would finish top 3 rucks as he is that good.
Very clear before the season started his out would be effected by West so steered clear.
Pre season research is very important and good to see the forums have not steered every man and his dog in the right dorection.
Pre season research = 1
Forum team = 0
I'll be sticking with him for now but it is a bit annoying considering most of the pre season i had Mumford but changed him to Jacobs in the last minute and then changed Jacobs to Leuy.
Have him in AF and don't like the fact that West did a fair amount of ruck work if they both keep playing will go to Mumford
Not sure why you are surprised. West was always going to ruck with him, Leppa made that pretty clear all off season.
Leuy would score a lot better without him as all ruckman do but he will still give a decent average. Around 100 i would say
I would take a 100 average but not sure he can get to that.
if u are planning on trading luey this week ... u have lost the plot in supercoach and should give up now
I've lost all confidence in Burger with West in the team.
It will only get worse I reckon.
I'm going to cut my losses now before its too late.
Burger wont be top 3 ruck while West is in the team, simple as that. :(
I have faith in him even though I don't have him. I think he will still go 100. If anyone am give me a suggestion on this, it would be great.
Who would you take now.
Minson, Cox or Naitanui. I have to take on of these. I'm leaning towards Minson! Thoughts? Thanks
i am glad i got off him in fantasy land, but have 2 xv teams with him in, so i hope he gets better
Interesting here after one game bagging Berger. I posted numerous ocassions that Lions will be using Dual Ruck Strategy and if you did not heed that is your concern. In saying that I think Berger will still average 100 but not the 115/120 for an elite ruck. This may still put him in the Top 5 as it is hard to gauge after 1 week. Next week it may be Berger kicking 3 goals not West. Who is to say that both West and Berger can not average 100 and do a Nat Cox.
FTR I do not have Berger in my team opting for the Coxilands ruck.
If you absolutely had to trade Leuey (I have him, going to hold for better or worse), why not sideways him to Nic Nat after Rd 2?
Quote from: Southstorm on March 23, 2014, 07:09:49 PM
If you absolutely had to trade Leuey (I have him, going to hold for better or worse), why not sideways him to Nic Nat after Rd 2?
Option could be Sauce as he is the lone ruckman.. All other options like Nat, Big Boy etc are competing with others
To be honest what did u expect when west was named?
I disagree with everyone. Everyone flips out with talk of trading a premium but sometimes uv just made a mistake...
Sometimes u misread a preseason and their position isn't what u thought when u picked em.
Rookie corrections are ur priority, but if all of that is in order ditch the Berger I say...
Who instead of Berger? I am kind of eyeing off Mumford or McEvoy
Keep Leuey. Bad decision to trade him off one average match.
As I posted earlier it may be Berger kicking goals next week which was the basic difference in the scores.
Jeez Leun didn't even play that bad what's with all the posts. He had almost 20 touches, and other rucks like Nic Nat, Minson, Goldy didn't even score that well.
absolutely crazy to be trading him after 1 game. but, hey, go ahead and burn a trade!
I have him. Will assess after next weeks score.